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Big Brother 21 Sunday Night Aug 25 Nominations Recap | Kirsten MacInnis

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Big Brother 21 Sunday Night Aug 25 Nominations Recap | Kirsten MacInnis

"Germany's <music> from my apartment. It's rob has a podcast and now here's the guy who's making this promise to you that there there will be no christie chewing noises in this podcast. I promise i promise i'm rob. Cicirino liberty welcome back to our sunday night recap here last sunday sunday in august as we are here to talk about a competition less episode of big brother so a lot to get to here tonight. We've got a great guest here with us to talk about it. All fraum many are h._p. Productions including our recent love island wrap up and you know her from big brother canada six. Please welcome the great kirsten mcginnis kerzner. You know rob. I'm so happy happy to be here. I mean i know i volunteered to podcast. I just didn't think it would be the soon but i mean you said you wanted to come on. <hes> you know i thought you said meant you know. Couple of weeks left in the season just sucks. They sound you know well all right. Well you're here. You're here looked eerily the guy that you're not the target here tonight. The man who as with us i think every sunday so far in this season in addition to you every day. Here's the grade ten rio. I'm disgusted. No why why of i'm. I'm feel like i'm done with rather. They had an episode without a challenge in it without a competition. I just don't understand the direction of the show at this point i like. What do they think they're doing. Obviously we're all watching four the competitions. I don't know why why they think they can get away with this bird. They have no bush. They have no competitions tonight. I don't know what they're doing. Gross apparently this this checkers and not just all right so we're here. We'll have a fun a recap here tonight. Get your questions in hashtag our age a._p. <hes> pity as we are talking on a sunday night so let's get into everything from this episode where we got to see holly's one nomination <hes> we got to see nick as america's prankster and his nomination which was christie and a lot of other stuff along the way kirsten. This is talk about our headline of nick as america's prankster. How how how 'bout that. I ate happened. I'm choosing to believe that some of the maybe better players split the vote and allowed him to sneak in. I don't want except that he was anybody's first choice but i you said on thursday that he would not receive ten yeah and the prank was on any al franken was on me. I will say there are not ten knick fans as eric and i were trying to there are not ten knick fans but there is an army of people who hey kristie taryn is that is that fair to say. I think that's very fair to say and i think that we definitely are in a situation where the big brother audience they. They hate more than they love. Yeah yeah so yeah. This real quick turnaround time from thursday with the taco tuesday. Extravaganza ended up resulting in so many people watching the t._v. shows like hey. I really want kristie to go home and then putting all those votes oats on nick curse. It's amazing that so many people came to the same conclusion of. I hate christie so much. I have to vote for nick while i think that's actually what she was going for with. Taco tuesday was to say <hes>. The clear opposition to me is neck. She spelled it out for the viewers and so when it it came time to vote they thought okay we want kristie out well. Who is the opposition to christie. It's clearly nick. We just heard on tuesday yeah and he was able to you. Manifest fest the truth bro. It happened somehow. It's nick i. We're not the lifebeat. Suppose pretend how is nick nick reacted to. This is nick buying into like <hes>. Hey all the knick maniacs out there because is it going through his head well. He definitely was like yes america. You know they're helping me out here. They're saving me. <hes> it's definitely it definitely makes him feel like he is vindicated from taco tuesday that you know he he was he was in the correct. You're in the right of all of this. All all of this stuff okay all right so we'll circle back to nick being the prankster but this episode opened up on christie entire. You talk about this the other day about how that you you were liking the fact that the episodes that they were devoting to there being a lot of strategy from the evictions that we get to see on the from the thursday night shows that didn't make the episode but we see them on sundays. Yes on sundays are quickly. Becoming the best episodes of the season. I think is because there's always so much to cover on the thursday episode and they don't do it. <hes> so the <unk> lately they're leaving for the sunday episode and there's tons of great stuff and we open this you know the first fifteen minutes of the episode was pure strategy and it was fun and it was interesting. I really enjoyed it. Okay cursing so so we got to see christie's hardcore campaigning from this week's episode how impressed where have you been with christie <hes> big brother player like in general. I would say like early season. I was like i was very confused. As to why she was so well liked things were kind of going her way and and then she kind of got lost. I think a little bit in the middle and then i was really impressed with the campaign to stay but i think that it it didn't do the justice nacho nacho how bad on a lease was because i do think that was also a huge part of it yeah like i know that it can be kind of confusing to show someone who's already gone home on the <hes> sunday show by. I think that that would have also really helped paint the picture <hes> whereas what they showed today made it seem like okay. Christie is it's amazing. She is a brilliant strategist. She saved herself. She's a mastermind. She did this all by herself. Whereas that's not really the case. There was more to it than that okay. Let let me just say knowledge. What's going on here that this is rare in history of podcasts that we have a mid show wardrobe. Change taryn was wearing a very nice ice shirt but it had a very thin pinstripe which i think that was just not tv friendly and so- taryn very quickly ran off screen like superman and now has on a different shirt drive. Yes were you wearing this. You're under under your other shirt or do. You have your closet of shirts very close by like rob. Does i take after rob thank you. That's very nice to you say yeah. That's where i get it from that. I don't know if either of you are familiar with mr rogers but <hes> that he taught me me that you need to keep an army of like what you were what you wear on your show you just keep a closet full of that right where you do the show and then you come in and then <hes> <hes> have all of your different shirts for the show ready to yeah. Yes really what was happening is that i was pranking all of the viewers of the youtube version of his podcast and and <hes> the prank there was over so okay all right tearing the big brother overselling christie the strategist. I don't think so i mean they didn't play this like it was the knicks coming of the funeral. Which i think is the right way to go. Funeral awed <unk>. I mean look <hes> christie can dance but <hes> it's no dance funeral and <hes> and so i think she she definitely deserves credit right she she hustled in in that moment and there are a lot of other factors that helped her. Stay alive that week. They did not show <hes> sis campaign pain which was really really terrible and ultimately. I think a big part of what song her in the game <hes> in jackson even said today on the feeds <hes> he was like you know the real reason holly alley that i chose to keep christie was that i was worried you would choose this over me was like okay because holiday during after his campaign told jackson that <hes> that she had still in alliance with cysts and christy and tommy that excluded jackson and so and he his reaction was oh i knew about that but he clearly hadn't known about that and so that was probably a big part of it as well but but there is a lot to. I think there's a lot to credit for. What christie did this wouldn't have happened if she hadn't been pushing and pushing and had given up like many people do so. I think that she absolutely deserves the credit of <hes> <hes> being the primary driver here in the edit. Okay let me ask you a question and tell me if this is a completely different situation but way back when cliff cliff had the chance to do something against christie's wishes and may cut a deal with christie and he got dragged back to high heaven over at christie's word is no good why would you oh. He took a couple of weeks of safety from christie. Why would why would he do that. How come come jackson and holly have avoided the same kind of scrutiny for making a deal with christy that she's just going to go after khimik so i think it's just that like the potential cliff move where he makes. The deal goes back on it. Nominates christian eliminates the power completely lately. That's just such a lake. It's the sexy move and everybody wanted to see it whereas like yes should not be trusted christie in this scenario they are like the they just shut however i it's not as exciting and people really were not enjoying watching says. I don't think so there just to see her. Go oh so the results. I made people a little bit happier so i think that's why he's not. He's not getting the same level of vitriol as lifted so it's just that we were happy the cisco home i think i mean i'm happy to see her go. I shall be like blockbuster. Geico yeah that was when christie was telling sis how much she missed right and there's so many clips from this episode that it's hard for me to find this but every time they have done that that's like war wobbled like affect the season tired. It's been gold yes. It's it's it's great yeah. I think basically what happened. Here is that the more the fan base wants to see a move the more on board they will be with it and the more they don't wanna see it. What happened the less on board. They will be with it so <hes> because they because they hated what cliff was doing. They didn't want to see that happen is like oh. This is the worst movie ever but because this one there was more split. There were people that were like oh. This is terrible move to keep christie but there are also people that were like no. It's not that bad. I mean to happen. Of course it was a bad move but i was happy. Happy are bad move <hes> so here's something that i was kinda confused about so there was a lot of talk between between holly and jackson and cliff and nicole in this episode. It almost seemed like that. That's the four that's like the new power dynamic in the house kirsten. How how real is that the jackson and holly plus cliff in nicole as being like this like ah four with this very solid deal i. I don't think it's that solid like as has been discussed over the course of the week like they. They never named it. They never did like a funny handle. All just like shook hands very businesslike and i just don't really buy into it. I think there's just not the pre existing relationships ships there to make strong bond moving forward am i crazy didn't show present that as like that's like a really powerful full group in the house right now yes and it is something that has been forming over the last you know over jackson's h it was they talked about the they've been talking over and over. It's been slowly conforming in coming together and so i think they are setting it up because it does look like it might might be a group that not necessarily we'll stick together all the way through but it is going to be a a one of the major major groups in the house. I would say that one of the things that the episode did not do a great job of was telling us where's tommy during all of this because they <hes> really left him out of the story completely tonight yeah and it's so weird because he's been just so much part of everything so far but then they did not make a good job of of putting in his his k._c. Game that he's been playing <hes> yeah he is well insulated for the most part as well as previously but nobody nobody was talking about him in the episode that we saw that the four talk to christie christie is going to go after nick we saw that potentially and chilly okay just could go on but no talk about where tommy was in all these thinking yet. Tommy actually said that <hes> in the diary room he was talking about his decision and how the wall shouder actually had a lot to do with it so i think that he was talking a lot about that and that was informing a lot of his desertion shouted <hes> yeah and so obviously they're not going to put that into the show because they don't want to be part of the show so i think that has to do with it a really what tommy is is doing around. This time is realizing that okay christie is staying. I need to reorganize my game in this direction and he is <hes> he is targeting jackson holly right now <hes> and we haven't really really see much of that but he is also convincing them that he is not targeting them and that he is completely <hes> trustworthy <unk> they love him. <hes> yeah obsessed with who is it. Who is it okay so we're going to get to prank week and we'll get some pranks in the episode tonight. We have a lot of ella oh pies in the face. I and you like the pal the pies in the face during frank week on principle. I don't like it but the segment and the show was really fun and there have happened some fun moments on the feeds. This is very much my university that i went to does a pie wheat and the engineering faculty you pay someone to you pay for someone to get paid and if that person pays double than it gets turned around and that person gets pieds. I've spent a lot of lectures where you see someone just like they kneel on the ground to get like execution-style hide in the face so i'm very familiar with. I don't like it on principle but this was fun. Okay well. I bet that's intense carson. It's it's actually really scary when okay meal. I'm going to buy you in the face and it's like no. Why so it's happening. Don't do they have to kneel. I power dynamic thing. I don't understand engineers. I'll never seems like it would make it even harder. I think it's got a downward force and it's like uh-huh and then they just spend the rest of their lecture with whipped cream on their face <hes> yeah what a waste of the pie crust talk take more yeah. I was gonna ask. How much is this actually happen in real life. I don't think this has ever happened to me. In in real life. Salim haired insulated communities like big brother in school. Yeah i think happens. I find someone in highschool to fundraiser so yeah although my kids have the board game <hes> pie face which involves like a cardboard cutout and you gotta stick your face in there and then it is like a a little timer that you turn and you might get it and you might not and <hes> they were playing with the babysitter and my younger son was like i can't look he he was very very tense. Okay brother love's the pies in the face here during frank week. The pie voice voice was also intense smith jenn what's going on there. Kirsten and i knew i don't know <hes> to move some. I saw some people were saying was actually actually supposed to be some sort of a gallagher personal life. You lead here in the big brother house. Maybe it is gallagher with five technology to destroy voice. Just a little bit scared jackson. I wasn't sure what they're going for here. It's kinda like a like a bill cosby voice t._v. It is only eight. This is the same voice they used for like the camp comeback stuff though too right or am i crazy i think big brother as a show has continually degenerated like some some sort of like if you look at like the older days of big brother kind of announcer was like smooth voice like all right now it's time for whatever and then and then we would get to like we got to the day and then we've gotten worse and now it's just like i'm saying if it's sam sam has gotten <hes> more and more ridiculous karen's oppression. We're out of here yeah but during the <hes> pie montage. I think we saw that gesture was not liking what was going on. I feel sticky. This is nancy this if i mean i. I don't think she's wrong. It doesn't look good and then there's just whipped cream everywhere the aunts they've won now. I don't think there's any way no they've they've they've won the summer lake yes yes and they had to go wake people up and i think that was the one time we saw tommy me in this episode. Oh by just <hes>. I did think it was fun. When jazz that's like was holding the pie in front of chrissy space for so long just like i love you. I'm sorry and then just like. She could've just gently done it but she's a lot of force for someone when he was apologetic. Yeah kristie could have eaten the pile good yeah okay all right so pies in the face and then we're gonna find out about the one nomination for holly but not before she told chrissie that she wants to come up on on the block italian you touch on life you have to do this was not great timing for holly because if she had waited she would have have gotten away with this and never had to told christie that she would have put her on the block and also the way she approached it was it was it was very much not like all right time to cash in. You know you said that you go on the block so i'm thinking <hes> you know. I'm hoping that you're going to live up to that end of the deal. That would've left christie like oh. No no of course you know of course i'll live up that ended into the but instead it was like so i was thinking. Maybe you <hes> they. I think wait a minute is in christie christie cents weakness. She can smell it and so she pounds. She's a no no way what a why why. Why would we do that <hes> yeah. It's no good. It's just not how you show someone. You wanna work with long term yeah yeah. I really do think that christie is a strong player in this game that i know that she's like it really crazy and emotional and all all over the place at times in the diary room but i just think that the emotional manipulation levels are ah incredibly strong cursed in that i think that the thing about where like survivor blindside people better where we're going to challenge go to tribal council. You just have to get through the afternoon with big brother. You gotta get through a week with this person and christie eh if she knows it's coming you know she can play on all everybody's emotions for the whole week in guilt them into coming around and try to make like all these like emotionally manipulative decision so i. I really think that she has something we'll yes. She does a really good job with that as well. I think there was talk earlier in the season about her ramones. There's just something about christie like above and beyond everything that just works for people that i think is hard to come across to us watching it just it once he talks to people. They do tend to want to do what she says. The other thing too is that she does come across as very genuine in which i think <hes> when you think someone is genuine and making like even if you know like no she's not. I can't trust her like she's not really genuine when it feels like you're having a genuine conversation. You want ought to trust that. Even if you shut it. She genuinely had people like super super remorseful like oh my god i just did the worst thing in the world because has they've played baywatch like that's the level of emotional manipulation christie's working with here yeah so maybe something with its the thermals for whatever reason it's not working with america. America is not buying it. She is the most hated person in the house. Spy the least the t._v. Viewers yeah and i like twitter like some of the vitriol i._c._u. I'm like oh my goodness like. I don't like her but goodness n._s. Gracious. I don't have that level of energy to hate her either. Why what's the big point of contention on twitter. I honestly i don't know <hes> yeah. I mean it it reminds me of. I think it's i think part of it is that she is succeeding in in the game. I think that's definitely part. I think that at at first it was that she was sort of the representation of the big majority alliance that people didn't want to dominate and she was doing jews being that role in a very annoying way <hes> like crying and being super paranoid the whole time <hes> but now and so they were taking a shot her with the field trip and because she was the target of the field trip it was like we need to get her <music> out and now jackson the underdog. He's like anti christie's become like a good and bad sort of war <hes> and so it's it's still there's a lot of like anti i christie resentment but i think there's also a an element of it that it reminds me of how people hated vanessa and i'm not. I don't compare their games because i think they're games are very very very different and people compare there too much. I don't think that's correct but i think that in terms of how the audience is viewing them. I remember people being super super frustrated. Eh with vanessa <unk> hated vanessa she so annoying and <hes> she's not playing well at all she just emotional and all these things and i think there's an aspect of of that sort of that. It says she's a strong woman. She's being very aggressive in the game and that rubs some people people the wrong way. I think also bringing up the the tommy relationship. My people are really unhappy that she has an unfair advantage but i just get the a sensor even without that she still probably would have been doing while though maybe not this in my mind i think she's a no doubt all star who should come back and and playing in the season and i think that she somebody that i think that even if the fans don't like her now i feel like that she won't be a hated figure outside of the house. I think that when she's on twitter later in a couple of months people will be standing her karston. You never now people will stay depends as she takes it depends on if she comes out and has a good sense of humor about ah. I feel like that attaran win. Fifteen was was amanda with she somebody who was seen as a villain but i feel like that people love her now. Yes i almost almost used demand as an example as well. I think that she was somebody that was really really hated in the house and there's definitely been a contingent contingent of people that have come to appreciate amanda after the fact although she was a lot more involved i think in sort of the ugliness of that season yeah like christie was so i feel like christie probably has a better chance than a man even amanda in terms of being able to recover from this end. I do think that she will be remembered as like got. Hey guys remember. Christie's pretty cool right yeah big part too is if she makes up with me and they're good after the show that will do a lot for her not in august after the show. I think that that will not for her. She she needs a good publicist and that could go either way in the big brother world but just somebody who sort of like got like telling her like what she needs to do what she gets out of the house that i think that i definitely see a nice future for christie a year from now. I'm firmly on on the side of things chemi. Cami is the one that i will. I will follow me wherever to the gates of hell yeah fully biased in favor of coming out but i i could not a year from now and where we're talking kristie on a podcast and everybody is excited that she's going to be on and the chad is excited for her so i think that sometimes these things are fleeting. Yeah i agree. I think so as well. I think that <hes> i think i'm already starting to see this sort of come around and i'm seeing you know rented threads heads of like am i the only one that really actually likes christie and then like tons of up votes to prove that no i wouldn't say i'm not like a a fan of hers in that. She's like the amazing person but i feel like that in terms of do i want her on my t._v. Screen or do i not want her on my t._v. Screen on my computer rescreen. I want her there. I wanted that she's added a lot and that's why i wanted to see her in in the game as opposed to assess who was not and yeah forget. She is regularly with all due respect. Tommy who's probably better game player. Christy is done a lot more for the the drama of the season. Christie saved us from yes is this is this crazy tommy have of a lot or anything to do with her being saved on thursday night really not much at all apart from the fact that again. She knows she can rely on him. She can use who's him they can separate from each other and be able to reunite super easily any in any obvious advantage that him being in the game against her. You're just passively obviously there but in terms of actively doing anything no he he didn't have anything to do with the actual vote was perfectly fine with letting her go and keeping nick around and she had to go and actually. I think i have the votes. Wait really like okay. That's great uh uh yeah crib just to go back to christine her reaction to learning that america may not like her. I thought this was very funny. Pretty hope that america pick me as the prankster but i know i'm not america's sweetheart literally cried every time i think about that. I know this isn't a time to cry. Hold on there's this cognitive dissonance of like like i know i'm probably not america's favorite because i cry all all the time and it makes me so sad that it makes me cry a lot. I get it lake. The idea that your country doesn't like you is very difficult as you've had to experience and thankfully nobody cares in my my situations. I was able to to get through that like she's known for a little while well now that she's not a favorite <hes> she's still under the microscope and like dealing with that cannot be easy. I truly i truly do feel for that aspect back. You might say that every time. Christie looks at america. She does not see home every time okay so there's some talk between nick and holly about what's going to happen. Here and nick has a very very convoluted plan for. He knows that he's hollies target bud. He is pitching here to holly about how hey if i don't put me on the block and jackson ends up on the block i will use veto and take jackson down off the block. If you keep me off the block darren how about that for offer you know at least he's making some kind of offer because this this is before. He knows that he has the power and you know i. It's it's something he's used to be. I'm i'm an asset for you if i'm off the block but there's nothing after after he wins the power so at least you tried. Was this the best. Try though look i. I'm very much on record once. He wins that power he should be storming up to the h._o._a. Trim and being like hey holly. I guess what i just found out something about me being in the diary room and maybe there was a card in there. I'm not sure and so my maybe i have the power to put somebody on the block. I mean i don't wanna say for sure one way or another but maybe i have that power and you know there's jackson here. I really don't wanna see jackson. Touch the block. I don't know about you. You probably don't wanna see jackson. Touch the look. I don't wanna touch the block either. I mean it would be really great if we could. Maybe some work something out. You know kind of figure out a way to make sure that jackson doesn't touch that block. You know maybe maybe something along those lines <hes> uh-huh and <hes> you know that's probably nick would do it but he would obviously be better if he was a little more subtle about it but some just some kind of deal make some kind of deal. You have the power to put somebody on the block. Jackson is available to be nominated talk to them and tried to avoid being put on the block. He knew he was going on the block and he accepted. It did it and it was just like well. I guess i can only just put up christie then. Which was her original plan. Yeah yeah did did he think i think that he had a shot to be america's prankster. I don't know i was like this is when i was like not fully back into into it from being out of town but like i don't i don't know i don't think he really thought that it would be him. It's going to be fair enough. They do home but i also just feel like regardless of whether he thought that he would have the power or not like he needed to try and make something firm that he could actually we rely on because neck and christie just pitching against each other doesn't work anymore once they're up on the block together and if one of them goes home like you need to have something else for moving forward and he just never brought that up <hes> so nick after he went to the room he came out and then he had a very awkward conversation with circle saying that nick had an awkward conversation with somebody is a little bit redundant right erin very much so yeah i asked him and so he talked to nicole that he ends up talking about how he is convinced. He's going up the block and also that christie is going up on the block and that he is not the prankster but he just knows that that's that's how it's going to go and he swears to god you didn't get an m._b._a. Yeah my favorite part about this. Whole <music> situation was that right before the segment they had the christie chewing segment and in that segment it was the most alive i have ever seen seen nick in the room. He was like oh man the way she shoes just so ridiculous oh my god and then he went into the diary found out that he was america's prankster and he was like oh my god. You have no idea how much this means to me. I'm literally about to start trying right now. I'm just so so happy. At least he did a happy be two aunts yeah. He did do a happy dance but apart from that i can show he showed some emotion there yeah so that's america's erica's prankster prank. He's pranking the call spreading the coal yeah. It's it's not me but i know who it's gonna be. It's not me yeah. It was just a mistake. I mean that's an a little over the top cursing to go right into. I swear to god. I didn't get an envelope in there yeah. He's like. I have to hide it. I can't let anybody know that i have it which again questionable decision making but then i feel like the minute you walk out out of the d._r. And you're saying i don't have it. Oh my god that's the worst thing ever like. I feel like that's pretty obvious like i feel like what are the stocks you just. Let's keep going but he just can't harping on it. I mean it's one thing to light in a coal but to volunteer writing. I swear to god. I didn't get an envelope. Deflect deflect flecked deflects yeah nick nick. Is that guy that that will be just be like digest definitely not me just letting everyone know just letting everyone know. I didn't see an envelope in their men. Wouldn't it have been great if is on envelope in there but i definitely didn't and then he walks away and they totally by it yeah like i haven't been texting any other girls. I swear i haven't been texting anybody else. That was like oh my god bro my god why would you why would you think that i swear to god. I swear to god. I wasn't even talking to anybody else on the live. Feed your trust me bro yeah all right so we're going to get the nomination ceremony. We're gonna get holly's one nomination is going to be nick. I thought that this was kind of a weird speech from holly at the nomination seven which put mic on the block. I have nominated you nick because apparently all legitimate komo dominate you so apparently i'm not a great shot. I is she making a joke there. She like using like a <hes>. Air quotes that apparently i just nominate you so apparently let me say that. All you do is nominate nick. Apparently apparently i think thinks she she won. She won perfect. Shot is a good shot but she's not a good time. They'll make jokes holly shot. Don't make jokes wall. She's she's been mad recently that they've been telling her in the diary room that she's not funny does not. She's like stop. I want to be able to say what i wanted. I wanna say you can say not funny yes. She can say what she wants to say but we can't say that she's funny. She should be allowed to say whatever she wants to say but i i can't give her that kirsten. I mean it was funny when she said no. I don't mind we had dinner and a show talking to you. Okay all right christie's not bad apologizing for ruining. Everybody's dinner no way i don't care we got dinner and a show. The producers don't think she's funny because they didn't even use that the couch okay and <hes> then. We got another slot machine carson. This was like when the americas his field trip was a slot machines slot machine for the prankster nomination. Yeah just goes to show how much they favor jackson because he loves gambling. Is that what it is a big gambler. I can't think of any other possibility. I guess they think it might be as like maybe it's dramatic. I mean it's not the dramatic not brent. Yes get some slot-machine content yeah because everybody knows that pranks have to do with slot machines sure sure kamba. Yes kristie again. Ver very upset have breached the biggest fear is not making my family and my friends proud not making america proud. The biggest fear is not making america proud well. It probably wasn't her biggest fear until she found out they don't like her own. No i wanna make them proud. Yeah okay <hes> that's christie versus nick and we'll talk more about that <hes> a still in in this hour but let's we touched on christie's chewing long segment about christie in her urge or i'm not gonna play clips of christie chewing bugging. We've reason to believe that this might be something a topic that comes up later on the week taryn yeah this is. This is the teen something up. I think for a future episode group karstadt away classic foreshadowing. Everybody weighed in on christie's chewing including nicole. He's got some <hes> some action going with those jobs some real jaw action shingle with those jobs. I mean she really does. I was trying to like see if i could do an impression of the christie chewing a little while ago and my face doesn't move like not so i knew it turns out that she's like a snake that can dislocate her jaw to like a forty five degree angle much snakes makes enough to choose. Yes you can really impressive look. She's she's good at it. I feel like it's she's bad at it like a fish and i was like no that was wrong that she's definitely bad at the cell bad. I've never seen anybody else. It takes her forever. She choose yogurt tara tara and she's losing taryn on how aw inappropriate yogurt chew when you're eating yogurt. There's yes in there there is there is so much weird eating in this episode. <hes> the christie doing shows her. She always eats her cereal out of a cup which i will never understand <hes> earlier in the episode they had nick eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich that had already been started. He started the eating it from the jess. Yes karen very weird. Is that a regular thing four for now. We know that nick is kind of freak freaky. If prices they'd had freaky freaky he would definitely be nick in the big brother house. But what do you think about eating the pizza jelly sandwich like go on one side and then go and then go like from front to back. Let me tell you something about nick. He really likes talking about his proclivities in the bedroom and i will tell you that this really matches with <hes> with what he likes to talk interesting interesting. I i don't know maybe he was hoping someone is you sticky. This is nancy jess. I was gonna say i think he was hoping other houseguests would come to the lady and the tramp with the sandwich. We've had the other side but you took all mother please. You know you're thinking carson. Peanut butter peanut butter's very sticky. I don't know yeah okay. You're on thin ice so speaking of eating in this episode. We had a long long jackson watermelon segment in this episode a licensed music. Yeah we had jackson. <hes> talking about watermelons kicked off with jackson. Never eat too much water on you've literally. You can't can't sick of watermelon. Has anybody ever like had an addiction to watermelon. Turn i mean we're seeing seeing we're seeing a full fledge watermelon zero patients here of the one mellon addiction that he said something cursing which was also very bizarre is are. We talked about a lot of pies to the face but i can't wait to take a whole watermelon to the faiths does that does he ever do that. Where you it like cuts the watermelon and half and then eats it. Hold it up to his mouth. You talked about how christie my unhinged her dr john what jackson sometimes likes to do is just shove the whole thing in similar to like a hey arnold style head his head. Just kind of balloons is out like a watermelon yeah and then you know eventually it goes down in order to fully make him seem more average and not like a douche so that's really the strategy that he goes for. Thank okay also just really wild because i feel like we see jackson eating a lot and we see him eating waterman a lot but i don't think i've ever seen him to the watermelon like it's like it dissolves in his mouth so juicy. He's perfect watermelon eating machine. I don't understand it like. Do you like watermelon either of you. I actually <hes> had to cut one for my kids today. Did you feel like you know what it was. I was prank frank week over here because michael barr watermelon and then i cut it up and i cut into it and it was bright yellow on the inside. I said what is this. What is the what is this you. You clearly needed jackson there to tell you whether it was right for not my kids like that what happened. I don't know it's prank week what this is. I didn't even know that that was the thing i this is the first time ever hearing of it but i also hate watermelon yeah right it's not i don't understand why my anyone would put in that level of work to prepare food. That tastes like nothing. I don't recommend it yeah. The yellow the yellow watermelon no was it was great. Look the same on the on the <music> outside but it was completely like like like like this color on the inside <hes> like bright yellow crazy learned to tell if it's if it's nice yeah <hes> yes like jackson is able to tell a solid but you can hear that it's tight on <music>. Honestly that was more than anything is on love. Island personally watch the entire season so fair. Yeah pretty sure people really fall in love. Hey what are you trying to say about jackson his watermelons well. You know it would be a lot more romantic gift if the watermelon out wasn't murdered every single time that's that's a crass way to put it kirsten this is this is a consensual act of eating yeah he. He consummates the relationship with the watermelon. Hopefully the marriage to mickey and holly that was just consummated in the big brother house figuratively yeah ya that's a lot <hes>. What did we just watch episode of big brother with no competition. Maybe maybe they're right about needing. Come out with one one other thing on jackson with the watermelon sharon. This was really really fun of beginning to see jackson's ordering of the watermelons in the diary room in this episode large watermelons as many as you can get if we're able to get more watermelon though it'd be great. Allen alien smashed one of the watermelons. It's nice to finally get jackson's the reaction to that and i just like i normally they houseguests what they order as much as as jackson order from ray apparently real that he knows a guy raves. The person ray is in charge of getting the produce. That's why stock former houseguests have been quite upset on twitter that the jackson gets to have all of the watermelon that he wants and you know when they tried to ask they never got any of their food <hes> so clearly either they need need to have the the persuasion skills of jackson or they just need to ask her watermelon. Yeah i love that. He was snitching on allen malian in the diary room. Allan allan alien smashed one of my watermelons. I think part of prank week they should bring in gallagher to typically just like maximum tax. I mean it's so perfect. You have this guy's phone number. Who's number one thing is he. Smashes watermelons like <hes> it would be so great like have the prank guy say everyone to the bathroom. Ha ha ha now go to the kitchen and gallagher and he's like <music> all right. If we needed a big big brother you lead here in the big brother house back back it would be particularly great because jackson would be genuinely upset to like he would be laughing along at first but then after it he'd be like we're replacing the watermelon he might kill gallagher co into the dining room when he'd be like gallagher smash a rape police get some more really bit large ones in security. Okay let me see if there's anything else that we have from this episode. There was a weird moment where there was jackson slid in on in his sock the city did you catch this moment in the episode. It wasn't sure if anybody under the age of forty was going to get <hes> they did like a risky business joke here in the episode okay. They went a long way to get. It wasn't a lot of pay off there but there was it's it's it's it's all part of the imagery habilitation for jackson zenden say he's tom cruise. He's he's got this funny watermelon thing. <hes> you know we're gonna. We're gonna see some <hes> some pi- action. It's it's. It's all it's it's it's they. They know the formula. They already perfected it on okay all right. This was also a tommy talk or is. This was also jackson talking about christie. Honestly this is beautiful. She has no burden she has no bush. She has nothing left. Have you talked about the where. Where does this expression come from like. I know a bird in the hand these worth two in the bush but she has no she has no bird. She has no bush's hands. Though this was the major exclusion from the initial jackson ism segment. It's my favorite of his zac because he says it all the time. I have no bird have no bush. I have no bird. I have no bush. Do we have thought to funnel floors of now. We have too many birds too many bushes <hes> it's it's really it's really all just <hes> if you either have no birds no bush many birds too many bushes <hes> but there's no in between there's birds one bush. There's no want to <unk> bushes one bird. It's it's all about the <hes> the no birds no bush. I thought it was it was one bird. One hand two birds one bush. I thought those were the only options that apparently there's so much more to it again so many questions for jackson for after the season to take us. Let's take some questions from the listeners. The people who are watching us live here who sent some questions in on twitter and now we'll talk about the live feeds and talk about what's going on with the veto and zing bought this weekend. Here is mister robot taryn what was knicks optimal move putting jackson accent on the block taryn. That's what knicks should have done correct. What nick should have done was talk to holly. Yeah make a deal. <hes> yeah yeah okay was allowed to. He just decided not to all right then. Let's go to the worst david. Can you capture the enthusiasm of prankster mr nick in the d._r. With an impression let's go yo. I'm the prankster. Thank you america for giving me that power. Does i'm so i'm so grateful america's done for me. I'm literally. This is the happiest i've ever been in my entire tire life right now. I am so pumped yeah happening so great yeah yeah. You know what got me really worked up. I was thinking about over the weekend. I'm like sam should have still been in the house like nick should've gone home that week sand. It sloughed at sam sam nick yeah imagine sam getting the americas prankster. Oh beloved people love it. At this point. I feel like if he was still here. He may be would have turned the corner and been seen as more annoying annoying than super annoying. I feel like it's the thing where he died a hero before he could become the villain. Was he a hero. I mean people liked him. Is what i'm yeah the longer he was there the the more likely it would have been nice people would have turned on him. I think that production liked him. I think that they would he would have gotten a good good at it. If you'd stayed an underdog yeah house really obvious okay all right. This is from the man who says is. Is it really pranking if they see it coming and complain their moves around it. What am i missing here. It doesn't matter because they didn't move around onto and yeah. I mean it's it's the classic prank of hey rob. I'm going to not beyond beyond the podcast. I'm gonna not show up for the podcast on wednesday prank. Do you want to bind. You're going to be only six days to plan around four days. Say everybody really throw me off because i don't even think you were on the schedule. This is <hes> a real frank and a half. Yeah okay so just to talk about this because i i've been really fascinated with this idea of could this week be no elimination that is there. Is there any chance that this is a possibility of the ultimate prank is on us this week that there ends up being some sort of like prank voice <hes> we got you know fiction thursday night eight makes makes sense with the football schedule this week and then the big brother will not be seen in a ton of markets on thursday night also yeah it makes sense for for that reason but i just feel like normally production would have let us know like it's weird that they would prank you'd be they'd be in a bind where they i don't want to tell you that there's no win. Veto competition happens. They don't want you to think like hey doesn't matter because nobody's going home but i i would not bet my life on it. I just feel like that. There's still. I thought there's a non zero chance turn i. There's two things that prevent me from thinking that's probably the case one is that julie did say that somebody would be eliminated and sent to jury on thursday night <hes> she usually doesn't lie <hes> <hes> and second is that in there's been speculation that oh well maybe maybe what it is is that <hes> they'll cancel this eviction and it'll turn into a double eviction in but with only at one actual eviction <hes> so the double eviction would be the real eviction but but i think they'd want to advertise that that if it was a double and so i don't really think that that has silicates either and <hes> i don't think they want to nullify america's influence. They're giving america chance to influence the game gene by <hes> the prankster power to somebody that say everything goes right a. and the person that they wanted to have that power makes their move that person then gets really lee screwed over if they cancelled the addiction and it doesn't go through that is a very good point. There would be a real thumb to the eyes of america afterlife. Christie is going to get voted out because she was america's erica's nominee but you look big brother has done wacky things before <hes> the chad is bringing up the time that they pranked the saul with anthony scaramucci. He wasn't a real houseguests kirsten. Yeah he was fake all along that also too though with america voted for someone to give the nomination not for who actually would be nominated which does make me think it's more possible that they cancel the addiction. I think that since they didn't really give america that much power it wouldn't make people that upset if it doesn't pan out whereas like if you guys are getting naming the second nominee <hes> and they took it away but i feel like that would be way worse job. Ah in my in my view it's like america's giving this power theoretically to their favorite player so if they gave this to you know let's say nicole or whatever ever and then nicole makes her move against tommy and she puts tommy on the block and tommy's about to go home and then they cancelled the eviction and then tommy wins h._o._a. Jr it's like well. She screwed screwed herself for no reason all because of this america's twist in you know now we're screwing over the fan favourite for that doesn't seem like the right move but they don't usually operate logically anyway anyway so yes logic to say we need a double eviction so they practice with the battle of the block funny one yeah. It's a fan favorite so i just wanted to say that. He don't drag me if it doesn't happen but give me credit. If it does happen okay effort we're doing that. I don't drag me if it doesn't happen but please give me credit if it does. I really hope the next stage bird calls good. That's good assery set. Give me all the credit when it's not okay. Don't use the bird call. This is my new favorite segment of <hes> <hes>. Don't don't drag me if it doesn't happen but give me all the credit f- okay all right hugh says can we chill will with waking houseguests up in the middle of the night. It's never been funny but even if it had they've completely beaten to death disrupted erupted sleep is bad for your mental physical health which seems especially sadistic in the big brother house okay. It's a hugh is really take jake. That's that's his issue so i'm going to say that mental and physical health is not the main concern of production and they will never ever ever stop doing that. Yeah with you. Yeah you say let them sleep pattern important this is this is cruelty yeah above and beyond. I wake them up in the middle of the night but i feel like making them get a pie in the face in their bed. I feel like is is very disruptive. I heard stories of of production really likes to mess with the houseguests by like making the house super cold in the day and super hot at night so they don't get good rest. Anyway weighs like they're never. They're never going to get the proper sleep in the big brother house yeah but also that this is a game show where people we're trying to win money and it's not a hotel that is worried about the customer service of the people that stay there so turndown turndown service your pillow. If if you don't like it don't adult beyond the show personally. I think instead of using music to wake them up every morning. It should always be applied to the face that way they get their sleep and we get our entertainment yeah. Although we don't see that yeah okay and they they're not singing every two seconds <hes>. That's a good point. This is from ri- what's worse topaz voting for jillian how we voting for magyar america voting for nick the prankster again. They didn't vote for nick as the prankster. They've already against christie well. I will say this has has the potential to backfire in pretty major way not necessarily like the biggest way but nick being the prankster could result in in either jackson or even cliff going home. <hes> which i don't think either of those are preferable to america i think they like cliff and i think they like jackson <unk> but also more importantly would be a huge huge boon to christie's game. If if either jackson it's in or cliff went home that would be amazing for her and so then thinking that they're giving this to screw christie over could really end up benefiting christina massive way and it played this correctly. We would probably already be looking at some kind of scenario that like that. <hes> luckily for america. He didn't and he played at the way that i think they wanted him to but he still has has the opportunity to do something smart with it in the future. Push the reset button. Yeah i still i feel like the the topaz vote is still the worst. I can think of one more that i i hate more than all right. Let's come back to the questions and let's get into talking about. The live feed spoilers from tom the weekend so we will talk about what's going on with the veto and where we're headed into this week's potential vote or real vote <hes> we'll. I'll say all right so let's go ahead and fire up the lifebeat spoilers will be back again on a wednesday night after the episode. If you were going going to be leaving us four the live feeds boilers but come on back and watch after wednesday all right before we get to the live feed update. Okay let me take a moment and thank our sponsor of the podcasts as our friends over at rockies. Have you heard about the company. That's making stylish shoes for women and girls that are recycled water water-bottles. They're insanely comfortable and machine washable stylish sustainable comfortable washable all in one pair of shoes. 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Sometimes sometimes you have a lot of the people you love in order to keep them on spoil. It's okay all right so jackson. <hes> uh has the veto will not use it correct correct okay well. Do you know what the competition was was heightened. Go veto no. It was some some sort of <hes> cliff was just describing during the episode but i wasn't able to catch all of it it was something to do with rolling balls and maybe stacking stacking them or something that was it was a ball roly kind of physical kind of competition okay all right so all right jackson's the h. l. Let's say with the zimba- zimbabwe is anybody's back a lot of a lot of complaints about the zang's <hes> this weekend. Yes well to be fair. We haven't heard the exact wording necessarily mhm the repeat wording of them guests. Guess nice like okay. We don't expect much but this today. I did see there was some controversy traversee over. I know you were reporting that the zinged holly by calling her an old buzzard which as well i don't really get that she's not that old and she's thirty one and that's all i guess old for the big brother house but beautiful older woman yes okay older woman okay okay but then i saw today on twitter. That holly is now rethinking the zing and <music> now is becoming furious. Yes she is a not happy hurt like her family has watching. She just has so so much integrity and all of those latch and sing. God can't take that away from her. Yeah well taryn. It's it's fitting that there was a controversy once again over a bird's fear of birds yeah that it's a the bird in question is seems to have really upset holly. Yes <hes> well. I do believe that it was it was sort of tied to <hes> potentially nicole nicole you know i thought you didn't like birds words. Why are you hanging out with. This old buzzard that kind of thing so yeah. They're they're really trying to get at least one nicole bird joke per episode so yeah but i think the thing is that people that i that i don't like about this is that in the last couple of years a lot of the things they've started taking them more so from mike what social media is saying and it's been a big thing people have been making fun of how holly looks older than her age refers aren't good or whatever and so then i think about kind of takes that does the joke on the show which isn't really something that show only viewers are going to understand and like. I don't think he looks at all so that from what i what i've seen on my big brother trash twitter that holly is is most upset about the the not the old part of the zing but the buzzer part of zing implying that she the <hes> as explained by tommy that she is somebody who goes through the scraps and that she went after jackson she he is picking through cats. Scraps and holly is furious that she is basically being accused of going after sloppy seconds yes she. I think has made it a much smarter joke than it was originally intended on earth. The subtlety of zing tissues a very mad about this so i mean if she's gonna be mad at being called out for it and she did it so it's like yes so she is not happy with production over over that i guess over a number of different issues not being funny yeah yeah her and jackson have been really really image conscious in the last month dash and so she's really been trying to portray trey the right kind of image for herself ever since they broke away from the six shooters. She's been like i mean i wasn't ever actually with them. I wasn't bullying anybody or are being mean and that was not me being myself. Now i'm being myself <hes> and so they're really trying to like portray themselves a certain way and she's concerned concerned about the cat thing. She's concerned about the fact that she voted cat out. She's also concerned that she is being portrayed as boring. She said i'm oh i'm she's. We didn't say hey it. She said what am i feel like. I feel like maybe i'm being portrayed. As the angela and what's wrong with angela come on and she did she do anything. I feel like nice where between a rock and a hard place where there's nothing that you can say right now. Yeah paulie needs to put respect on angela's name here. Yeah come on knock it off but it's just fine just just fine. I don't dislike holly this. There's nothing to dislike calling her boring. They're saying she's the she's the terrance plain yogurt of big brother casting hey now. The taryn loves plain yogurt. That's so weird heard yoga's disgusting wow wow i didn't realize i came on this podcast to be attacked. The less i eat the more yogurt there is for you. It's yeah is it watermelon yogurt taryn. I mean there should be no. They're absolutely that's discussing discussing. I almost puked everywhere but i'm disgusting. Puke everywhere didn't charing. Can we talk about the vote heading into thursday so with nick and christie remaining on the block heading towards thursday. Is the the house going to vote out nick as of right now yes. Tommy has already told nick that he does not have his vote and this is awkward but <hes> i already made a promise of before the veto man nick. I wish you had told me that you were the the prankster because i made this promise to keep myself safe. I didn't know who the prankster was all. <hes> what a what a miscommunication is should be as sitcom it come episode. Oh boy what can we do now. Already promised my vote so i i guess i can't vote to keep your neck of sorry yeah for rob to jump in there. What none drum in what a pickle okay so who who's voting wear taryn as of now voting to evict nick nick jackson is voting to evict nick nick has made a pitch to jackson holly. It's basically identical to the one that christie pitch them and they're. They're very much. It's like we just got this pitch. Why would we do it twice in a row and so they do not want nick jackson's vote against nick <hes> jess is obviously a vote against she said to nicole something along the lines of i mean they're basically the same nick and christie but <hes> next guy and he's neck next <hes> so that's three then you also have cliff who would like to see nikko because that gives him full full control <hes> or at least half a loyalty of nicole and <hes> and he wants all of them to go at some point <hes> so he and and he wants to go side with jackson holly in this in this sort of a vote so he is with them and then also nicole reluctantly. She wants nick like to stay but she has no support whatsoever. Burj is no bush no support no bird no bush no nick. It's not looking good for nicole trying to keep knicks so she will reluctantly vote him out. As of right now <hes> her and cliff have made a final four in official final four together. <hes> cliff shook shook on it. Nicole burst out crying when they offered it to her <hes> and kinda voided agreeing to it but in a way where she you kind of pretended that it was just because she got emotional and after it holly was like are you worried at all that nicole burst out into tears when we offered our final four jackson's like she's good <music> just so it's just a little angel yeah. She doesn't want to accept it. Okay so if this is for real you have a that that group of four in on the other side of the house would be christy and tommy ingests yes and obviously i think the idea would be get out you know tommy christie and then hopefully in the crossfire somebody like holly or jackson takes a hit and now all of a sudden you're in a final four probably with something like cliff nicole jess and holly or jackson or something along those lines that would probably be their ideal situation from this moment forward obviously nicole's ideal situation save neck. Yeah i can have nick in that fourth spot but cliff doesn't want that to happen. It's been a wild ride this season very very fluid. I mean from where we were the first month of the season where nothing's ever gonna change death taxes in the six to now where the game is so wide open <hes> it's been very very much like a big brother eighteen where the jets with the when natalie groti came for paula california and then the second half was crazy. If christie gone last week she would have gone in the same fought that polly dead so i guess now we'll we'll see maybe what it would have been like if he stayed. Okay all right. Scott saint-pierre has done some research. I don't know if this is a asleep fake or not but he has this watermelon blended greek yogurt. It's out there taryn there. You go yeah. Johnny's not my brandao. Oh okay all right and of course you can never be too much wrong. You've literally. You can't get sick of it carson. I yeah well. You can't get sick of it. If you never eat it so you karen will not tell people what what brandon leslie pay us for the podcast sponsored. Kirsten is my manager. That's mckay passed all right there. You go all right so then. Let's have a couple other questions jin's <hes> this is from your name carson glasses sim lou do in your opinion doesn't emotional players such as christie have a better chance of winning. Even though it's dangerous gain strategy. I'm thinking of josh. Throw a hissy fits. Yeah won his his season turned that with the anecdotal evidence that we have a jury penalize emotional player as they do to somebody who's more of a strategic player no actually actually thinking about it. I think they tend to reward emotional players over the more a cold strategically yeah yeah that's especially lately yeah it depends on how the people made you feel right so if the person is very emotional and maybe they emotionally manipulated you but you don't really feel that you were manipulated. You just feel like you had an emotional bond with that person. That's gonna make you more likely to want to vote for them. Versus someone who is cutthroat end strategic and you feel like they were not genuine with you at all they cut you. They betrayed you. I feel like that's a big part of it but josh did really good work with his goodbye messages. That were a big part of it. I feel like i have a better sense sense of this <hes> from like a survivor jerry where billions survivor jury is usually very against whoever was the most emotional all player but i do feel like that in big brother. I think that maybe because the game is longer you so much more downtime with one another. I do think that the emotional player might be able all to have more of these ties to the people that vote yeah. I think there's also again especially lately. There's a sense of <hes> <hes> like hey. I don't vote for the person that that tricked me and if you are in emotional player than usually your cards. Are you know your heart is is being born on your sleeve and so you know you were probably playing a more open game and as as in lieu pointed out that doesn't mean that you are playing a riskier game. It's going gonna be more difficult for you to <hes> to make it to the end if everybody knows what you're doing but if everybody knows what you're doing all the way through then they're not as mad at you when they find out that <hes> you've been tricking them because you said that you were intrigued or something along those lines so <hes>. I think that i think there's something to it there but i think it's also a trend of sort of recent years that we're getting more and more acclimated to. Let's vote for the more emotionally open person than the person that was sort of like controlling things behind the scenes. Okay stands stands funeral also. Are there any named alliances in the house right now. No okay right so we'll see if we get one for the jackson and holly cliff and nicole one that for jackson holly. I'd like to see an alliance name for them. What about jackson hollick that work for them. I mean it could work. I don't think it would <hes> yeah. I don't know i zeno points out in the chat that <hes> technically the fellowship of zing is still alive even without lovie lovie. This is something that i pointed on twitter a little while ago that i am very pleased about the fact that <hes> that tommy christie and jack were like <hes> making this aligns lots of love making making fun of the fellowship of the zing which included one evicted player and and now the fellowship of the zing is is having a better time of it than lots of love of ever did <hes> okay. Here's one from chestnut checkers rob. Who do you think of the best showman's edit of the season jackson in cat jackson holly or jackson and his watermelon jackson cat was there was not much there. I would say that jackson holly as a show show mance does not bother me at all that no. I have no issue with them as a showman's because it's not like shmukh time all the time with <hes> with with them so it's not bother me at all but jackson is watermelon are <hes> clearly tops. They get licensed music. Yes that's romance of the year best of the year low violent celebrity big brother all of the thing yeah i explained it on the morning update this morning with frail mary but could you talk through a chestnut checkers real quick yes chestnut jagger's apparently zimba at the end of jackson's zing which was by the way just calling calling him a douchebag pompous douchebag and yes well 'cause he's been working on rehabilitating his image image and so approachable. He's gaining weight too. Yes he has been intentionally reverse chris pratt yeah. We've talked about this that he's been. He's he's been snacking a bit and he's been not working out as hard and that he doesn't look exactly the same is the way that he was when he came into the house and so what he's saying is that i'm playing chess not checkers. It's all planned. It's all to make me look like a more normal average guy so i don't come off as a like ripped douche with with eight-pack cabs <hes> i'm just trying to be more relatable to the people yeah <hes> but but within the chestnut checkers yes so zing but at the end of his said chestnut checkers zing and holly thought the said chestnut checkers and she said so what was that chestnut checkers thing and jackson said well. I mean how it works. Is that <hes> this game is chess and not checkers and she <unk> wease. This game has chestnut checkers and she's like okay. I guess i guess yes. I just don't get it get it. I don't know why jackson was like yeah. I mean i hope that they're not making that into a thing on the show. Make me look like an asshole or anything like that but i mean come on it is it's chesa checkers and all he was like oh chess and not check. I thought you were saying not yeah checkers. Oh oh man i miss the in wyoming they make a checker said they take the chestnuts and paint them and then you play chestnut checkers at the holidays. It's really tough when you get the double stack there. The chestnut was very hard to stack. You need like a toothpick a <hes> get them. King may all right and we do know that it's just not checkers because their pawns all the time so i spent this whole time thinking it was checkers not trust so now yes google chestnut checkers and the first thing that came up was a song chestnut checkers and the second thing is chess. Not checkers elevate your leadership game. It's a book on amazon jackson reticent reticent okay. That's what he was doing in sequester yeah. I wanna hear the <hes> chestnut checkers song i do yeah. This is the ear buds. Okay okay all right the risk of copyright infringement. Let's listen to a little bit of a chestnut checkers by the ear buds swirls monday bor parkway it enjoy. It looks like it was going to be like a kid song <hes> based on the artwork right one hundred sixteen views for chestnut checkers. I give it zero ear buds. That was genuine leila better than i expected. Yeah you're rocking out for for anyone not watching the video terminals dancing aggressively to that than until this boiler song jared was into it okay all right. <hes> scott's appears just go into these yogurt sites wonderful watermelon. Sorbet leterrier doesn't like so ah right frozen yogurt. I can get behind frozen yogurt. Yeah i mean i'll take. I'll take like a sore bay. In a smoothie sorbet ended smoothie or sorbet yeah yeah okay yeah all right okay. Let's see what else do. We have besides that we got this question already. Okay okay. Let's let's possible that nick at the price because the majority vote was split between clinical taryn. Have you talked this through. Have you gone made silver yet. I feel like the the maybe t._v. Viewers that were voting for their favorites probably voting for cliff and then the heavier is that voting for like the anti vote they were going for nick and then i feel like the online community were pretty heavily in favor of nicole and so i do wonder if there was a little bit of a split vote situation and that's that's part. Y nick did get this one person forty five minutes ago andrew. Here's andrew wasn't okay to anyone explained to me. Why sys was shaving. Her pants has because her leggings leggings pill over time. She has no bird. Get rid of the pilling you shave them. You can shave sweater to if it starts pilling. That's that's a real thing cody riley every woman i've talked about. This has been like terrence stop. It's a normal thing it's normal okay. You can get like specific like device to shave your sweaters and stuff but like if you don't have that a razor will will do the same trick looks weird though if you've never seen that before i thought about it. It's like oh wow that is bizarre but no it's. It's totally normal. Okay all right. What about wins this war trash aspect and you explain that one i that's i think it's just there's a joke. There says i can't explain that one. I guess if she was dying her hair maybe but like most people just do that with their headlights turned over over the the sink or bathtub aftab so i i can't okay all right. Well mayor maryse in the chat saying apparently i'm not a normal girl. She hadn't heard of this <hes> all right. We knew that dontrelle mary all right there. You go all right. Let's talk about what's coming up here. On the rha the networks are you the one season eight episode ten. Go ahead and check out what's been going on with adam and amman over on the rap and then survivor south africa is <hes> still going episode number fifteen find out what mike and shannon talking the latest survivor south africa the amazing race canada season seven episode eight recap is up with jess and dan heaton check that out as well and then oh amy cusak on the latest talking with t. bird t-bird and i had a great chat with survivor ever legend amy cusak and that was from survivor vanuatu survivor fans versus airs. I thought that amy amy was really lovely and i've never really had a chance to talk to her before that she was great on <hes> talking with deeper that's up now on our podcast feet so check that number ten and and robin akiva needs podcast knepper forty six canadian shows are trash canadian viewers. It doesn't mean that canadian t._v. Shows are trash. That's something that's just a a bucket. In a canadian listener. I can vouch for this episode and a love letter to canada and checkout trader to the canadian nation shakeout out carson mcinnis who appeared on the mail bag we talked about the degrade the next generation and beyond we talked about corner gas and we're talking about trailer park boys also puja was our guest trailer park boys karen from candidates corner gas so it was a canadian filled episode of robert akiva new podcast that is up as well all right and then on monday morning check out the live feed update and <hes> tuesday and wednesday and thursday all week long the live and then the n._f._c. roundtable is back on monday night. Find out what the stock watch is going to be. How will the prankster change change. Things up and tarrin's got his poll out on for tomorrow on twitter right. It's a form rapport. <music> survey form lead different things that we can call it here. Be on the lookout for that to get your votes in for the stock watch and then on wednesday night. We're going to talk with kim. Martina overexcited for wednesday night. We'll see the zing bot. I believe brent will be with us on wednesday night so join us live at nine fifteen eastern and then on thursday caitlyn. We'll be back here in the studio for for thursday night as she is on the graphic there <hes> for our thursday night addiction shell so be on the lookout for that of course all this is made possible because of the patrons of rob has a podcast that i was put on this earth by by our creator to conceive dominic and anthony end to create a community of people who love reality t._v. T._v. shows and bring them all together and make podcast with them and that's what we're doing. Rob is a website dot com slash patron for patriot cast on tuesday day-night. Everybody don't don't make rob feel like he's being challenged by not being a patron. Please please be proud of him. He he puts on a strong face during the podcast but for every person that doesn't become a patron. He cries at least one tier a lock. Is you just don't know that is true. That is that is true but it's not it's not often about who's not a patron. It's more it's more about what i read in my mentioned on social media. Yes very said okay all right right so great job of course kirsten. Where can people find out more about what you're doing so you can follow me on twitter or instagram at kirsten said what you can catch me help turn out with the morning updates. Whenever i have time in my schedule when they're up speed and frail marian i are are still talking about riverdale over on hausky cast that is cow with a k. Yes very fun. Even if you don't listen to or watch riverdale people should still listen to the podcast jess right. Oh absolutely you do not have to watch it. You don't have to like it. <hes> the podcast is really fun without any actual riverdale content. It needed the okay not necessary. That's that's right all right and taryn. What do you have coming up. Well something that you should watch is that the american ninja warrior finals are coming up. Yeah they'll be in vegas. It's four episodes. You can start right here. You don't have to watch the rest of the season. This is the this is the prime material l. and <hes>. We're hearing that it's going to be a big one so you're gonna wanna tune in and listen to lita <unk> myself covering the show on the american jewry or half a podcast fast jets question that is about american ninja warrior despoilers get out on american ngo warrior like does it leak of like who the winners are. You're there. It's like many of these reality shows that are taped ahead of time. There are spoilers that can get out there but usually you don't find out about them until the show itself tells zia tom okay all right. There's no like like one guy like a reality steve of american injure warrior spoilers and now this time it's more like the host of the show and the advertisements yeah curse. Do you watch bachelor in paradise. I have been watching. I watched <unk> specifically so i can listen to abyan and haley but this year is very interesting so i'm glad i'm keeping up yes okay. I was on the bachelor in paradise. Wrap up this this past week tune in tomorrow night to see what's going on with john. Paul jones rule. Gotta see what's going on. Also if you're following the australian survivor was on with shannon gates last week. I got to catch up on three episodes this weekend taryn of australia and survivor only three three three week three weeks episodes are out at this point so i watched through episode. Fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen came out. I i feel like it started like two weeks ago and we're episode. Tweet really did yeah. I think this is the fifth or sixth week. Yeah okay all right so great job. Everybody thanks scott saint-pierre behind the scenes and <hes> we will be back on wednesday night. Don't miss the elsie roundtable on the monday night. 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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #57: 2019 Hot Take Tournament

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #57: 2019 Hot Take Tournament

"Forget to this week's Robin Akiba. Anita podcast the hot take offer excited for you to hear. All of the hot takes coming your way I We gotta hear you're about some hot football picks that I've made this season here for our sponsors bet online dot ag your online sportsbook expert To be honest My picks have not been that hot. I've kind of a fallen back a little bit in the podcast. One sports net challenge for anybody. WHO's interested that we we are trying to win five thousand dollars for the charity of our choice and let's say we're GONNA forget about week nine and look ahead to week ten where I'm going with the Ravens? The saints is the chiefs the packers and my lock of the week. The cult's over the dolphins it's all part of the podcast. One sports net challenges. You could fall podcast one. Sports Net challenge dot com powered by our friends over at been online dot. Ag Your Online sportsbook experts nfl college football NBA all heating up this week with games. 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Another highly anticipated edition of Romney. Kiva need a podcast here with me back so soon recording after our last podcast is a man who shows his commitment to his craft. That he is up he is podcasting at sometime around between three and four. AM local time here here. He is the CO host of Seinfeld pusher recap and thirty fans podcast and Kerber enthusiasm post. Show recap please please welcome in the great a key winokur key to how are you rob. Some people make commitments to be on the PODCAST. I feel like like our grandparents went to war. Yeah they went to like career or something and I stay up late to do about. So we're basically equals. Yes the greatest this generation of. That's US podcasters right. So what do you think are we the greatest show. Do you think we are the greatest generation podcasters I think we are the greatest generation of podcasters. Yes the young one is gonNA come. I'm not sure I think that the next generation is going to be on Tick Tock. I think that we've got the podcasting market cornered I mean. You know we play our cards right. We could podcast easily another five or six years. Okay so I do the greatest generation. Okay all right AKIVA. We're coming in hot coming in off of the wildly popular master Annapurna. I don't think I got from one person unless they haven't listened to it yet that this is the second best podcast of all time. Yeah Yeah No I. I'd say the the you know. People were basically euphoric online. They were they. Were you know rounding US and defying us and it actually makes me nervous when we have a podcast that gets one hundred percent positive reception. Rob Yes yes you can what we're GONNA do the next week like we're going to get one hundred one percent this week like it's almost certainly going to be less popular. Well I don't know we have a good one now. We spun the wheel last week. And got the crappy movie diaper. We're going to watch the Whoopi Goldberg. Goldberg Film Eddie. You played your veto. I questioned the move. I thought that maybe it was a bad challenge and we respond the wheel got the takeoff. Wasn't sure how we were going to get it in but here we are keeping an eye of recording about what fifty one hours after we recorded our last guests. It's very specific but yes okay so here we are and we made it work and so a Kiva. Could you tell us about. Who's going to join us today for our our first ever Rene up hot takeoff? Yes so we've done. How many how takeoffs have we done first of all you know I believe and and All our panel can correct the record. But I believe so we did a survivor. Hot Take off once upon a time. I'm on a rod has a podcast. We did a hot takeoff on the thirty two fans. PODCAST and I believe that we might. I have done some bonus. We ever do a cold takeoff also. Did that ever happen. Yeah I did one during a voicemail so I think we did a hot hot take off a cold takeoff and thirty two fans which was the the the two on our HP where reality based and the one and thirty two fans was was. You were actually not one of the takers. You were the judge yes I'd it was versus Chester on the thirty fans. Hot take this is the fourth in the AAC quadrant. Gee I don't know what okay all right. So Akiva Ed tell us about this all star panel. We've assembled uh so whenever we do take off except for that Forementioned Ah I think that might have been the first one overall the one on thirty thirty two fans So since then we realized we're missing one thing and that's Leon Harris. Oh Liana for the third time is joining us as the third judge I I would say rob is definitely Simon Cowl rob is like rob make Simon Cowell in real life look Jackson. He's such a hard judge for these things A and we could figure out who is randy and Paula. Between me and Liana how are you I oh yeah thank you you. I'm good. I think we just jump right in with the. I think I'm Paul. I think that's what we decided last time. Now I'm just happy to be here for our annual podcasts. You know where we debate. The definition of hot takeoff than yelled are taught taking it yelled at for it on twitter so But I want to add. We did a hot or cold take I think on the BNB. When Akiva was a guest? And I think rob all you call. Okay Yeah so the fifth one at yes I. Oh I think you're knockoff. Debate of what a cold take was. Yes which I don't think we have really ever settled on the definition so revisit that before this so I apologize to all the tweets. Here is a response goes well maybe the cold takeoff comes intended intended episodes and goes back on the wheel. Yeah get the sequel mechanism up and running. Okay all right of course Liana coming in also hot off of of her appearance in the mast rapper. We had a debate before we came onto the podcast about whether or not we could spoil the results of the mast rapper. Upper Akiva had wondered aloud and I had said we can spoil things that happened in the last episode. But you don't think on the sopranos nervous. About spoiling the thrones out of order. You can't say oh. I didn't know that person was going to die. Why why did they show? Why did they talk about that? I was worried I was going to have to come in. And somehow modulate my voice on the show. Just keep it hidden anyone anyone right. Yeah if you if you watch Skip ahead to this week's jets giants game and they talk about the the jets dolphins game that you smartly didn't watch plane they spoiled. You know spoilers watching that order the machete the the machete order we watch the jets. Yeah it takes a machete to my heart every right okay and then it keeps. Who else is with us today? Yes we've got the what I used. Takeoffs is I would pick the takes because I like being control-freak for these things and picking the takes but then people aptly point Out that I can't really react and and fairly judged that takes which I have chosen. We need an impartial host and we found the most impartial Marshall and the most host That's Kirsten McGinnis with five G.. Five with a five Jeez any less. Jeez and I'm I'm leaving the PODCAST. You can deal with on your own. Kirsten what are your credentials as a hot take consultant so technically I have none except that I'm a mean teacher when it comes to judging things so I took only the best and people have a problem with it much like the Great Great Allie last year they can at me. I Care Right. I've also seen you on TV a playing with fire that does that are. Are you tapping into being a like a an evil hot take person. I feel like I've spent like a few years now kind of trying and reform my image. And that's a really good point that maybe this is GonNa put me right back through. Maybe this isn't a good idea or maybe it. Well you know. Spur me into my next great reality TV adventure okay. What is an evil hot take person is lying in Djelic McPherson? I then submitted that are pretty devilish that I won't even be reading punk okay so you have read all of the takes that were submitted for this podcast. I have read all of the takes from the seventy people who submitted takes it was a minimum of four takes per person although some people decided not to submit for takes or the fourth take of four hot takes too much colder. Take they tell you with how many people put that in. And then some people submitted up to thirteen takes so I would say I've read a lot of takes i. We had access to this spreadsheet for usually weeks but I was like. Oh it's never going to come up on the wheel. I don't need to compile anything I'll just read the takes and we'll deal with it later. No Saturday keep them messages. Me Hot take off. Came up and my song weekend just ruined. I need to do this now. Kirsten you you have gotten a deep look inside the hive. Mind of our H. A. P. R. A. N. A. P. That do you have any any overall thoughts on the community as a whole after reading the hottest takes honestly. I think we should rename the podcast. Robin and keep us fans trash the well some of them anyway. So okay. Yeah so we have set up should be a really great bracket I it came down to fifteen takers. One taker will be getting a bye in the first around. Not necessarily because they're actually the first seed but because I was having trouble getting sixteen people with or very strong takes. There's lots lots of people who had some good takes But it's tough the take four hot takes us to many might just be accurate because it is like like the levels of takes that went between you know from the first to the second to the third dig to the forge for some people. It's a lot so I it is not an easy feat to have four for really hot. Takes Okay Akiva. Can you explain how we landed on that. You need four takes for the hot takeoff while I think the the thought process was we're going to do a bracket and thirty. Two takers seem like way too many especially since curse than saying she couldn't find sixteen she like So we thought we'd do sixteen ecksteen and that means you'd need four rounds to win so if you're so if you know person x has gone up against person why we'd read one one of their takes versus the other one undertake than whoever wins who's onto the quarterfinals based person Z.. So in theory you'd need or or takes win. Export takes the rule them all. Okay all right and what if somebody has a take that so good but then their second take is not good and they're going to be done they're done. I do think we should award a best take of the night. We each have of our taker the night in the take your words at the end of this. Maybe because Kirsten also I think has compiled some of the best takes from some wants. Someone take wonders maybe maybe had one dynamite take but then didn't show up for the rest of the of the A qualification tournament or literally just submitted. One I think in Leon I do think I think that a good idea for another potential idea for the wheels that we say we're having another hot take off and then we end up. Doing your takes trash. The idea is GonNa Pitch for the wheel we asked for bad takes. We'll get really brutal. Takes but we asked for good takes then. I think there's a lot of fodder there honestly can pivot right now which let's just change it on the fly. That'd be okay with that. Okay all right. If they're not to offensive. Maybe at the end we can get some takes trash. Yeah I I have a TAB that I've called insane takes and there's only one take their that. I'm unwilling to read on the air. Okay okay okay all right. Let's see how long this takes all right. Keep check for you it is three twenty seven. Am but I'm having a good time. Okay uh-huh okay. All right of course. Some of AKIVA greatest podcasting moments have come in the wee hours of the night but also some some of my worst instruments. Okay all right kristen. How are we going to get? This started okay so not a big not a big bracket get person. But I'm assuming we've the got the West start with east go from there The other thing that needs to be noted before we start as as I judge. These takes blindly. We hid who had submitted the takes until all the takes were selected And you too will not know who the taker is until they are either eliminated from the bracket or when but were you able to tell. Shut up Tim's by the spelling errors and the Math Macedo. The toiler alert is that shut up. Tim's for was just one take repeated. Thirteen Times not take was Akiva is cool which is a very cold take. Yeah yeah very cold number of people who submitted Akiva as cool as their hot take is truly astounding especially since it's the consensus this opinion. We literally just all and it was fifty four forty six. I keep someone also keep wrote like us. Six hundred word essay on wireless a loving self-loathing nerd. So sorry about that guy. Just words started flowing could self. Yeah so it's been a treat anyway so I think we should definitely get into this because there's a lot of takes so obviously there. Is that first round COMBI. So the next match-up would be a nine versus eight. According to the bracket I googled online. Okay yeah that sounds right. I don't know anyway. I don't know why you bracket I have no qualification. What we don't know? Yeah I think maybe we'll we'll for in more trouble put on the wheel teaching Kirsten about the instant tournament so -lutely not my friends made me do a bracket last year and it didn't go the worst but it didn't go great. So can I give. Can I give you a hint for if you want to figure out who plays in any sort of right now. It has to add up to seventeen yes one sixty eight nine five twelve thirteen eighteen sixty seven three or four hundred seventy two always ed seven okay. anyways speaking of numbers have agreed upon a scoring system here for order just going to be in terms of yes like a which one is better. We just have a vote. So there's no set worrying just picking the winner i. We're just bow to stand tournament. We pick at the two okay. So we're going to hear takes right now and then two out of three votes will advance the take. Yes and the other thing. That ice cream tournament Akiva exac- exactly like famously. Like every ice cream tour. It's almost most like it's just like a tournament. You know the other thing too for the seating if anyone is going to get mad I actually didn't really create the seating Kaya Who Up to the original hot takeoff helped with the seating and then Julia came in to check it out and between him? And I we rearranged it a little bit so so if you don't like the seating get over it anyways so let's get started. Are we already doing no. Are you ready for this. Yes yes okay. So the first take that we are reading is Chinese. Food is better over mashed potatoes than rice. Okay Okay and then the question I on. Yes you only pick their their best takes to go. I like is it in descending order of quality awards random. I'm it's kind of random. I was starting going in descending quality and then I was spending three hours on this and at some point I just needed to stop looking at it. I 'cause I'd love to know that person's fourth-best take also Akiva is is the winner of the hot takeoff going to be able to come in for a mailbag takeoff gets a mailbag Yes and the the winner of the take awards for the best taker tonight. Just gets attornal pride. You could put it on your resume that you WanNa take your Yeah definitely put that on your resume. Okay so so then the second take that we are. Reading is the only difference between coffee and smoking. As people know smoking's bad for them people get together at the office to smoke and drink in coffee. Their main purpose is to get you through the day. People say the enjoy the taste of coffee are lying. Coffee is just hot. Water the Only difference between coffee and smoking as people know smoking's bad for them So yeah okay. Medical expert on the panel. That is this is coffee bad for us in excessive amounts. Yes anything is bad for you and excessive amounts But I can I can name just off the top of my head. A few more differences between coffee and smoking. Coffee is a beverage. Smoking is not so I mean again. Yeah just everybody take note and it was very important I think is just goes back to our definition of hot take off like I just find problem with that first statement statement. It's factually incorrect. Yeah what is this person's workplace like Kirsten. I'm sorry I was supposed to take a profile. Hot Takers Terry. Are we way. Is this person working like an air traffic control center where people are smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee the entire day. Robert I have no idea where any of these people her her print media. Yeah and they still smoke inside too. Okay Kiva have you ever had Chinese food on mashed potatoes in any of your various meal. Consumptions I didn't does an option until ten seconds ago like it sounds interesting. I'm intrigued I be willing to try it for sure. I don't like Brown rice and I like fried rice of the three staple Rice's for Chinese food brown rice white race ride rice phrases and good for you Brown. Rice isn't good for me. I don't like it and waitress. Kinda boring sometimes mashed potatoes. Next Time Liana. Would you try Chinese food on mashed potatoes. Yeah I think I would try it. I don't know if that's sacrilegious religious. Somehow but I could see sweet and sour chicken mashed potatoes for some reason. That's what comes to my mind and I I would definitely try that okay. Could you just reset. What was the take with the mashed potatoes? Just Chinese food is better over mashed potatoes and rice. Okay all right Volterra Point I. I think I could go with that. I think I could see that more so than the anti coffee take. I think then Chinese food is better over. Mashed potatoes is also a hot ache AAC because it's unconventional like who would think of that but maybe it's true or again unclear the definition of hot take But yeah I don't know L.. I like coffee so right. I think we're in agreement that the second take is just wrong and so two long also right long I take. He's like maybe okay. Yeah you might have something there so I think that's an advance. I agree. Yeah it's something we hadn't thought of that even existed or like you know he's bringing something new to the table. Yeah thought provoking or shape provocative. What how about this? Kirsten would you eliminate a person. Can you quickly read. Their three. Other takes is what. Maybe maybe we'll maybe we'll see we're missing some goal. Yeah absolutely so the winner. There was the Chinese food is yes okay so. The eliminated taker is with once I can. I just almost put the wrong person. WHOA WHOA okay? Yeah but I have known and I would've felt bad so I had to anyways so the taker that is out there other takes are. They've a really long one about how. The final season of game of thrones is better than the final season of the wire. You're skip. That soup is a meal. If and only if saltine crackers are involved and avocado is the worst fruit but if it was the vegetables it'd be top five baby okay all right and who is this. Who is this person Nolan Rossier? Okay Dolan known. You know what he's famous for doing Nolan. What route he invited us he was he was the guy who invited us to brother's Bachelor Party? And I think Oh yeah okay. All right brother was in manage. Yeah right well. There wouldn't have been any coffee. Would've meals only of saltine crackers involved took unclear voice or cracker is the only saltines. Okay all right. I still think back rob because his brother was in the NHL so it was a bunch of NHL players is that it would have been like me. And you and I feel like they would just been giving us wedgies the whole time beating us up leaving us in Iceland. At least you talk to them about hockey. That's a little little bit. Yeah Yeah I feel like they would have just been teasing us any bully. Yeah okay but but of course. He's going to say the winning taker and I think what you said. Kirsten grabbed me. If I'm wrong is after the first round. Maybe you'll say who the eight acres left art. Yes yeah that is what we had discussed study us. I was thinking. Why do we need to know that at the we really don't we don't i? Ah I really WANNA meet reveal everyone after the first matchup and I said to you I think I would. dicing people seems seeings up his L.. Dot Sake Oh no yeah. I'm also going to read their home address. I take was that some of the takes really really drop off after the first one and so. I think it's better to wait till the end to reveal who the final winner because it leaves a little bit more drama Leona. This is our own version of the mass taker. Yes that's right exactly and as we learned from the format you have to keep them mass until you yell take it off at the end then you can reveal who it is okay. So we're not gonna hit her again from mashed potato person for a little bit not for a little bit our GonNa Orange another another interject something you just mentioned the the mass napper episode. Yes not one person rob came up with the reason why are the first song was an was spoiler S. Four. Have you ever listened to it yet by MRI. Yeah singing Averill Levin Song You put that Together afterwards why Lavine Averill Levin was was it because that the that the name of the second Admiral Levin is that what it was. Yeah Melissa. I didn't catch that. Nobody I thought it was set on the podcast. That real always listened to my show. I mean I didn't listen to it back either but no I didn't. I must have sometimes showed up. Tim Talks and I realized I like. Yeah here. I'm trying to make the podcast take longer. Yeah okay all right. Let's go to round two. What what what number on the bracket is as they may four versus thirteen seed? Is this four versus thirteen. Okay yes okay. So the first take is at facebook. Facebook should get rid of the angry sad laugh emoji reactions and go back to like only and was that the four seater the thirteen seed. uh-huh we're seeing it. Because did not rearrange. The takes visa just randomly assorted random. It depends if we knew their names wrong. The doors and some of them okay was lazy and right. You know what. I don't get paid to do that. facebook should go just to lake AAC or yeah and then the other one is host. Credit movie scenes are always insignificant. Not Funny and never worth way There are a lot of people that would come out strongly about that last tag like they have to wait until they see that post credit scene. Joe The thing I watch movies with Postcard scenes really. I do think there are. There are people that expect it and I think that because because so many movies do it then I think it sort of defeats the purpose. I kind of like I like that take I feel like if it was good enough it would be in the real movie. Exactly the fanatic have a no not movies. Lights have had a post credit scene. Did the animal maybe Animal dead. Yeah yeah anywhere like when fictional movies just like sum up what happens afterwards like with x like five years later they got married married and they lived happily. Ever after. It's like these are real people. You don't have to tell us how the story ends like if you're not doing it on screen. Yeah so I know the marvel movies do this to launch the next one but yeah I think it's a little tired so I'm leaning towards the post credits. I think they're on facebook. You know suppose suppose there is a posting like Oh. My dog died today. What he's supposed to like that post? Yeah right you need to face. Yeah exactly and actually look. I'm big on the well. I do a Lotta wiles on facebook. But it's the Lao like forecast eggers a genuine. Yeah it's both it's both direct. I'm like wow. Yeah wow this out anything that any person ever tells tells you if you respond. Wow that is crazy I it works for anything. That's my favorite response. When someone's telling me a story I don't WanNA listen to take you're listening to? Yeah yeah a Lotta game. Wow so those extra buttons I like the Nuance on facebook. Okay so the movie credits one then a Akiva where you yeah. We're in agreement. We're going movie candidates so far. Okay perfect let me make sure. I'm typing things properly. Okay we need. We need a new poll. I think going forward we need. He's someone to like handle the bracket truly ever to this again. So the super taker. Who's been eliminated eliminated? There are other takes our and this is what I meant to put i. This is my own fault. Kids are easier to take care of the dogs and easier to take care of the house. Plants kids are kids are easy to take care of the dog plant. Yeah plants like go pretty be quickly but dogs like a third of the kid to either remind you if I e right a lot I do yeah. I've never had a child so I can't compare but I've never killed a child and I have killed a house plant so like maybe that's the thing. Yeah that's crazy. Could you just reset that that a kid is easier to take care of in a dog or a house plant and it may be easier than a house. Plant is definitely easier and maybe easier than hell. Yeah maybe if you're a Kiva it's easy to take care of kids because other people are doing it. I don't know I don't find it that easy. Does it depend on the type of house plant the give it's a succulent versus at orchid. Exactly that's another bad. Take then their other takes are subpar. Pizza is not worth eating. The pizza is bad. It's just bad. No Rob Yeah I completely feel the opposite and then I games are a part of real life so saying it's not real life life is just a game doesn't make any sense Kerr was. This person was not advancing. That was the Great Amanda Rubino. Okay Eh what's the easier to take care of the dog to kids. How many dogs accent and I'm sure zero house plants remaining No I bought her a book on how to take care of house plants last year for Christmas so she knows how to do. Well Yeah but see she. We needed that book for how to Take Care. How did you buy her book on rearing children? What to expect any interest in that? So yeah yeah okay all right. Are we ready for twelve versus five. Okay okay the first week is recap should just pick a topic already to podcast about and stick take with Jesus Christ enough with the wheels already. That's like saying my favorite murder should ditch the murder. It is the wheel not anyway already and then the other take is is Chris Hemsworth is not even a top five. Chris I'd put Evans Pine Apparat all before him. I don't get the appeal but you gotTA GIVE US five Utah. The three Chris and that's why I put that Stapleton where the other Christmas I can't think of any more it's not put Chris Brown has cancelled if he's putting Chris Brown them. I like Chris Bracket Mats so we have to fill in the other Chris Pine Pratt. And then that's only three right so we have to come up with two more cruises what about stapleton the singer Chris Stapleton. He's probably better Chris Stapleton Kris Humphries that's Kris with a K.. The Guy who like Uh. WHO's married to Kim Cordell and minutes? who were the three that made the the cut I Evans Pine and Pratt? I feel really put in Pratt high as a bad taste at this point. Yeah he's Chris Pine Nick Great. Chris Pines these very generic host. SNL Like they. They think he's famous this but I feel like he's not because he plays Captain Kirk Akiva. No but the other one is. We're supposed to stick to the the topic. He didn't tell us what topic we just pick one. So it's like lack recon movies are doing. Are we doing like the mass singer every week. Now Sir Paul could he Paul. I mean he's towards the end of his career. You'd better what are we doing. KRAS Kris Jenner senators better criss angel. But I think I uh-huh Aaron Chris. Chris O'Donnell Yana heaps on a CBS procedural. Oh yes as we all know. I'm very very familiar with those and love them. So much. Famous Chris Actors like Chris Brac which scrapped. The MAC is in the top five Chris Five I think but now you're saying that the Anti Robin Akiva person is it should advance. Well I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued by. Maybe we should pay more advice for US rob in the in the next three to Kinda WanNa hear where else this is going. But I don't know if it's to be continued this take So yeah I think I want to hear more from the person who is saying that we should just pick a topic. They were so passionate and I think that I definitely think it qualifies as hot. Take that there's no suggestions but maybe we'll find some more as we go on on. That's what they're hot takes are is just suggestions about the Ra and APA format can give no information on further. Takes until you guys make a decision. Yeah I think I think like I like people who listen to this show every week but don't really like. Yeah that's that's kind of all right so the keeping imagine this person on the mailbag with us. Yeah they could really tell us. What's what could we show? Stop with the ideas. Why do we need a new rely? Dea here take this one. Just run with it spin a wheel once but that's it his whole mailbag. Yeah could be season three episode seven or it could be you know we just watch. MTV dating shows of eternity. Could you imagine Leon a what stakes for the wheelspin of like okay. This is what what the show's going to be forever now. That'd be so fun as long as he's still been the we all got one spot. You already told me that week. The wheel yeah exactly okay. Chris play the Oregon trail every single. How many times that you die Akiba Robinson ways if I have to say about it okay the rise and fall in rise of every week all right so we're going to advance? The Person Says Pick Guitar. And then we're going to kill off the top three Crisci so the top five Chris takes their other takes were The final season of high metro mother is the best one. Okay okay. Superstar is a better workplace Sitcom then the office and parks and REC. Okay Okay and that are homeless are seriously underrated. They're festive and have good plotlines and some of the best onscreen chemistry that this person has ever seen a movie. Wow magic that was in the final movie. Can you unmask this taker. Take it take a play on words with the taking it off and they takes. Yeah so this was Delaney Lepage. Okay Okay Okay Chris. Please let us know that was. I was very curious about that. I was like well you. You haven't listed five Christmas letter better but okay Yeah I like the name Delaney if ever do if we ever get stuck on the infinity wheel doing maybe baby every single week. I'm going to name a kid delaney. The girl well and quite a people's take was that you guys need to do the sequel mechanism for naming a baby name a baby girl. So didn't didn't Rob Rob has said no like ten times. We've tried what to name a baby girl. You said no so many times leap baby girl. She's the house plant. Yeah Kamanda namely on his new one every week. Because I can't keep make sure you're getting cat safe. House plans have zero house plants. I buy the ones from my Kia. That aren't alive because because they cannot keep them alive. Yeah okay that's good. I think he's been house plan. Talk with Liana interesting. That's very very qualified to talk about how it was planned to have. Never kept one alive. No that'll be the topic on the wheel every week. You guys come on this spin. All the official APS spinoff. PODCAST is is Leon and I talked about houseplants you're welcome everybody really into horticulture right now. Okay alrighty what's now curson now we're GONNA move to the west side of the bracket and we're going to do to versus fifteen. Okay Oh okay it's a big upset Okay so the first take we are going to hear is putting silverware at the beginning of a buffet is the definition of insanity. Wow Earth specific and traffic circles slash rotaries slash roundabouts are a superior traffic control mechanism and should be used more often. Oh Oh yeah. It's not even so I mean it's not hot in the places where they have it. I think it's just like Oh. Yeah this is what we should have like zero stoplight Okay Alright Liana. Do you have any thoughts on this. I want to go back to the silverware. Take because I think I just liked the phrasing of it's the definition of insanity and it's putting silverware at the beginning of a buffet absolutely love it when people have takes like this just literally. The definition of Insanity Kennedy is putting silverware at the beginning of buffet. Also I agree with it. It's really annoying because then you have to carry it with you as you're trying to serve yourself food. I don't know if that makes it a hot. Yeah but I stand by vis opinion. Keep it any thoughts on the silverware at the start of a buffet. I just went to my parents. Were staying in hotel for a few weeks and we went to visit them When they were on vacation and so there was like all you could eat every night fe type thing and my bigger concern? was they give you the little plates. That's how they get you so I would always ask a waiter for like the super size. Blake the forks. Were the least of my concerns. I would have eaten with my hands if I had a big a big fan of this like yeah. I think it's smart. I like the take I liked the phrasing as Liana Liana pointed out. And Yeah 'cause to me like what if I get spoon buffet and maybe I'm not getting soup or anything. They need the spoon. And now I haven't and now. I have a spoon with me and I don't know if it's the definition of insanity but I like I like where we're going. What was the other take? I feel like I didn't like like it. The other tate was traffic circles. Oh Schroeder wanted to do a two hundred seventy degree reg never ever stop at a light the rest of your life. Yeah I never get a green light. You have to go around. You know you've half a circle. Forget it robs estates roundabout train. How to drive around? And aw I know how to but it's very inconvenient. You get a little bit of whiplash is you're going around the circle especially depending on how tight it. It'd be nauseous. And then you take so much longer to get anywhere but see then. Does this make it a hot take. Because he was such a strong opinion about it does have an opinion wrong. I'm going with roundabout rob going with us. Buffet forks so it's up to Liana Donna. I'M GONNA come down on the side of the forks because then you get stuck with. That's boone and you gotta carry around the spoon and you're beholden and burdened with the spoon. Got What if you need a spoon and you don't have one from the start. Go back to the end sometimes and then and then. You're you're spoon. Listen the meal unless you have crackers. That's right ends Yeah exactly okay. Perfect ah so the other takes from the eliminated taker. Are It's ridiculous tape off so it's ridiculous. The baseball coaches and managers where the team uniform no one wants to see old fat deeds and types hand. What about like everyone says that every day Beltran? Yeah I WANNA see him. Yeah everyone says that every day. That's not a good guy and then chicken wings flavored with a dry rub are superior to chicken wing tossed in sauce and then they go on and veteran. I'm sorry I'm a vegetarian. Eto Care And then there last week is call me. Maybe by Carly Jepson as the best song of the decade was then is now now and always will be a crowd-pleaser h banger. And then they came to edit their forms edit I submitted this before listening to the Leprechaun mailbag yes okay and and then did I win that we were talking about the songs from the decade and then yes with challenged the guy so we shall we do the song of the decade bracket. I feel like we're we're not the people for that. I would like to do some sort of decade. Yeah do it here like I thought it might be interesting to commission some sort of a podcast. They'll have like Like I feel like that that would be interesting to listen to the like movies and stuff I I used to love on. Vh One when they used to have on the I love the seventies. Yeah you call this episode though because of the name for this ends. Yeah I don't know I don't know what it would be but I feel like that if if somebody else made that podcast I would listen to it. Yeah I agree I would. It might be a little more thirty two fans ish than renate. But I would like like I'd like to. I'd like to Crown the song of the deck. Okay already doing on this podcast. I don't WanNa do the song of the decade on this podcast but I feel like I like I like those. Do A podcast about twenty ten twenty eleven twenty twelve twenty thirteen hundred fourteen hundred fifteen and I might get bored by twenty sixteen. Might Stop Listening. Yeah we'll talk trump stuff. Yeah seven in your deal yeah get cancelled and we'll know because I remember when when vh one tried to because they did the I love the seventies eighties ninety ninety and then they tried to do. I Love The new millennium but they were in two thousand six and they were doing two thousand. Yeah it was very bizarre. So we're now okay. Who is your favorite talking head guy in those? I love the ninety Michael Ian Black. Yeah he was a big one. That is the correct answer. Lonnie Love Morocco Morocco. Anyway so that Hager was carried from Connecticut. Okay Yeah just gotTa get the name time there so the next is going to be our ten versus seven. So let's go okay. Okay so this I is. There should be one way to turn on a shower. Nobody knows how to turn on any shower except their own. Either have the nozzle or have the plenty he left but pick one and then the other one Ernie should run on that. Make you bet universal show sense. Yeah but WHO's GonNa pay for changing all the showers Akiva come on done so then the next one is scripted. TV shows should be capped at one season. Okay recap that one sees as person British One series yeah in the we could we could never get the heartache. About how the final season of how would that your mother is. Yeah okay okay so I like the shower idea. Yeah like the shower idea for. Let's push for uniformity now. WHO GETS to make the call all on what the ultimate shower designed should be? That's going to be on the wheel baby highly contest. The final wheelspin as you guys going over showers until until he ended up dying or Liana. Do you think there's any merit to scripted TV. Show should only be one season. And how would that be enforced with the government involved volved. Who would be responsible for for making sure that scripted TV series only lasted one season? I think Netflix with that idea. Because everything three seasons seasons way. I don't know I mean I guess I think the concept is oh there's so many. TV shows that just sort of you know who Dr Peter out over time right so you want to try to cap that and that will make all TV better right as they idea yeah. I think that I like the idea of shows not doing extended runs for these scripted shows because I do think that it is tough to end them because they just drag on and on and on. But I don't know if you should say that no show should have a second season Akiva. Yeah but that's why it's such a heartache. It's not I don't want to say the wrong wrong. But it's certainly like counterintuitive. I'm going to pick that one because while I don't agree with it I do think this is not the correct aikoff. It's hot take off. I think that's okay. Give me the hot shower and the heartache. For getting the show all the showers uniform people would would save so much time. People wouldn't scalded people would know how all the showers work be like. Just turn on a light switch Liana. Why hasn't any voice enabled assistance made it to the shower where it shouldn't I be able to just tell the shower to turn on? Yeah that's what everybody you want. Their voice activated device to be camera. What are they gonNA hear of? Shove him singing in the shower. Is that what you're working on in the Lab Leon. Are you working on voice enabled showers. Yeah I'm sorry I can't speak of that if I could turn my air conditioner. Patients should be able to turn on my shower. Yeah that's a good point you don't want those electrtonics with the water. The color of you think I think that's a million dollar idea. Okay here's the deal. I agree with the shower one and I think that that's that's not. It makes it a hot take because everybody would be like yeah of course standard because no one can turn on a shower. That's not their own contrarian orient enough exactly who's going to be like. Oh no that's a terrible idea. I love going to airbnb minutes to figure out how to turn on the shower. So so yeah I'M GONNA I'm GonNa go with the TV one with Akiva here. I'll speak valid points. Yeah they kinda won me the over by the end there to take so far though So this person's other takes were Fruits and vegetables need to be combined into into one category. Nobody knows which is which anymore Yeah there is more than I expected to be. There next take is MRS doubtfire. Fire is the funniest comedy. Movie of all time assists. I think it's recently been canceled but okay. And then there last SEGA's It's time for potted plants to disappear trouble than they're worth veterans. Thank you well why Mrs Doubtfire canceled. I feel like if we are- watched it. It's I don't know it doesn't hold up. Might not hold up my not. Okay yeah I mean off the top of my head. I can't think of any. Maybe maybe it's not I don't know yeah okay All right so I and WHO. who was that person? And that was Erin Safer. Okay okay so next up is Three versus fourteen reverses fourteen. Okay was that won. The two of the fifteen. Kirsten was upset. It's you know what I don't matter. Okay that's random okay So this person's take as students would be more successful in school without letter grades when we learn things like sports or instruments. They're not grades for right. You simply get feedback and where you need to improve. It should be the same approach we take for students in school and on the other take is public transportation is fun a bunch of strangers. I hang out in the same room with me yet. No one wants to be there and no one can leave The foundation is this person. Probably doesn't live in New York City. Ocho hang out with them. Okay all right. Well that's contrarian contrarian yep that's contrary in the first take was you know perhaps a valid argument Liana but you guys have really talk be into that which is more against the conventional wisdom? You always say it's not a right takeoff right then your line because yeah I mean you can make make the argument of an because even win. You become an adult right. You don't get grades for the work that you do you get feedback so I think that one makes a lot of sense so if we're going by the not the right take off with the hot takeoff than we probably have to go with. Public Transportation is fun food. No grades can I ask you. Did you guys all three. Did you get when you were in high school. Elementary School and high school. Did you get numbers numbers or did you get a Plus B plus whatever numbers or letters. I think I got numbers in high school and then I in Kabul in College. Yeah both the. I got a letter letters but they corresponded to numbers. So Yeah Yeah I got a number and then they would say this is what your grade is based on that number very demoralizing thing to happen to me rob was when I started dating my wife if I was in her Childhood bedroom and I like opened up some Matura and there was her high school transcript and it was thirty nine hundreds it was no grade below. One hundred wow. She's she's a lot smarter than me. It was thirty nine hundred hundred. Pass Jim like he was saying that. The lesser classes. You don't get you. Don't get great rob. You're now the point. You're not at the point where your kids get grades yet I am. It's like I hear what they're saying. But how do you know. How do you know if not doing well if if it's just like needs improvement I don't know Yeah what letter grade would you give the first take. Liana was the for the first take these students would be more successful with without letter. Grades depends a regrading based on the hot takeoff scam. The correct takeoff scale. He's improvement it needs improvement in the way it's done original. Take people have been saying this memorial mount original right Well I my parents put my grade report up on the fridge. If it was a pages and pages of feedback about my performance. That would take a lot more magnets so I don't know if that factors into it. Yeah okay a public transportation is fun is certainly I think the hotter take I like that. Take Yeah I definitely originality. It's up there for sure. Yeah Okay Yeah. Public Transportation is fun. Windsor. Yeah somebody's coming up with. You know riding around on MTA buses fun. We need to hear more about what's going on in their brain rain absolutely okay. I so far. The eliminated take other takes off. Take often drink before this. I think he probably Offi didn't drink. And that's the problem so very on topic. This person sank. Steak is non alcoholic drinks are far superior to alcoholic drinks juices better than wine. Pop is better than beer. Chester's kids chocolate milk. SMOOTHIES movies even slurpee. They're all great beverages will always taste better. Satisfy you and be cheaper there next week in in the next week is rogue one is the best star wars film wrong show for that and then the next week is Super Mario Bros.. Three is the greatest video game of all time. Okay all right and who was. There was Trevor Shaun okay. Trevor Rogue One and Super Mario Brothers three and yet The juice tastes better than alcohol. Yeah I like the juice one. That's probably his best fake Jake Jake. Of course. Alcohol doesn't taste good unless you're having like a strawberry dachary nobody's drinking alcohol for the taste taste right. What's better? Orange juice vodka. You put the vodka in the orange juice to keep exactly. They wouldn't the orange juice in the VIBE. Yeah I just reminded me. I was at a bar this weekend and a eighteen year old drinking smirnoff ice. Because I wanted. It's something easy to get up on so now Canada you could do that. Right in Albert illegally is eighteen. Did they. Well that's what they came up to talk to me and I was like wow this. Eighteen year old has balls and I was like what happened here buddy because he had to smirnoff ice. I was like you you get iced gross and I wanted something easy to get up on those like I gotta go meet my friends. He was double fisting. I don't bar where high balls worth three dollars Liana. Did you ever get shot. Oh Yeah I like. Unfortunately I was in college when that trend was huge. This is why we need to do. I love two thousand eight a the more interesting questions Liana. Have you ever drank smirnoff. Ice Blade consensually without being ice. Unfortunately I don't think I have. I think I've only had it when I was ice. Okay we've got our last match up of the first round are eleven versus the succeed. Okay okay so the first one we are going to hear his people who are in relationships should have to drop that information within the first five to ten minutes of a conversation as a blanket rule for all couples people anything otherwise needlessly cruel to all single people assuming that everybody is very attractive. Yeah and also like I was this person wronged by somebody like his girlfriend. Yeah Okay and then the next take is suits. Should be completely eradicated especially a work. Casual clothes can look just as clean and neat and at least you're comfortable. Are we sure suits even look good. Furthermore wise anyone talking insurance still untucked looks way better than talked. And you don't have to worry about it coming untucked It should have been a forward take. First of all are good like Bill Simmons. Who wrote I kid? You not a four hundred thirty five or take about fish. Maybe okay the suit do things and I don't know if this is a call. Take a key. I feel like that. The only people that are wearing suits right now are people that are very very very successful or very very unsuccessful. Everybody on successful people wearing suits because they have jobs that are forcing them to wear. They're wearing it when he was in college job when he was like eight star hotels either. A top hat right. There wasn't even he didn't even have to wear a suit you. They have like a moment where they're wearing a forty nine dollars suit. People are wearing. You know in two thousand dollars suits and everybody else in the middle is in a start-up in short yeah athletes yeah. It's not a bad thing. Adam Croatia call the Richmond Porn. Originally things that are not for the middle class people in suits also include the suit t shirts because I say need to know that did not actually give a take on Tuxedo. t-shirt okay again. I think it's a little bit against the conventional wisdom but show Liana should people all that are in a relationship needs to drop that information in the first five minutes of any conversation. Is this just like a new social norm that we need to Schumer adopt where you just have to say like. I'm sorry I have a girlfriend within the first five minutes. 'CAUSE 'cause isn't that like you you know the meme of back and forth right. Oh it was just asking for the homework kind of rude. I don't know Sir sir. This is an applebees Microsoft. Customer Support Align. Okay so what. What are you guys leaning toward the suit take is Against the conventional wisdom. I agree with it the I take. I don't know if we need to be enforcing that rule I agree. I don't think we should be the ones to endorse that. I think suits like are we short suits. They're good. It's not the hottest thing of all time but I feel like it's got something going for it. I think the thing I like about the suit take is again. The wording completely eradicated like we need to go on some sort of mission to just destroy. Destroy all suits so yeah. I'll go with that one as well. What about the USA show? How do we feel about that? That's right uh-huh yes that's like. Oh you know I want to make a wish. And it's like I hope for no more wars than you don't have storage wars or star wars. Get rid of suits. Do you get rid of the TV show. Although maybe that's one of the scripted TV shows that should have been capped at one season. Because I really draw we'd have no Meghan get markle. Yes she wouldn't the she's still be the The you know reporters on season three episode. Seven Oh my wife loves suits. I've never seen one one second. One episode walked into a room. And it's been on. Yeah and of course when I walk in the room. My wife has to tell me that she's married. Yeah this real quick. Leon I if you had to guess how many episodes of suits have there been. Oh my gosh I'm I'M GONNA go with a one hundred hundred over or under one hundred episodes of suits to cable show. Those usually go low but I think they have like two sets. Oh my wife is always always watching suit. I'm going to go over one hundred one thirty four. Oh my God took the most cable show ever knows episodes for any cable show ever. It's up there able trauma. Yeah that's a lot like South Park but it's a lot Okay alright so go with. Yeah okay perfect. What did the relationship announcer? What else did they have to say he asked Mr Relationship Announcer? Their next take was mountain. BIKING is the most unappealing physical activity to ever exist ritzier. But you don't get to see your surroundings because you're causing trading hard and it's terrifying. KEEP IT I. We're really going to push back on the mountain biking with love to leave your homies right here from people. The Mountain biking is the bee's he's needs. Yeah Ruins like Oh you know who looks hot mountain bikers. Let's have. I've mentioned the show that I did not write about right. No I came. came up during the sleepover podcast. Oh Yeah Oh so spoiler for that. Can I spoil. Is it a spoiler. If the PODCAST has been recorded but not air awesome. You can tell us whatever you want. Okay here we have a first rough cut of the sleepover podcast. That has been. It has been sent around to some people to start editing. Okay I have a lot of follow up questions but we can have those off lines. Okay like my my big question. Is the rough cut. It doesn't get sent to you to sign off on right. No no no we could talk. Yes yeah I'm just worried about the that Akiva is going to hear it and then cancel it one hundred hundred percent. I'm not I'm not cancelling. I'm guessing all right well anyways if there's more room for wasting auto already having well. Yeah but it's twenty twenty. I could talk ten spots in December. We also have the super friends. Vito I have you to- half and you veto half we could still use that right grabs vetoing that no. I'm not voting with. Yeah okay okay Anyway so there are other takes. Were that anaesthesia. Says I better movie than any Disney princess movie. We don't even have this. Oh God and that these boys the shopping thing mall is going to make a comeback as a hang out spot for teens. I know right. L. Malls are dying end in the end but I think people want to hang out more in person and shopping is one of the few hugh choice left on earth and the mall has air conditioning. Okay well suck the my take. Is that death of the malls is a great boon for American psyche. Malls terrible malls were terrible. We we need so we need like someplace that sells eight different types of pretzels. I mean I I was with you on. The malls malls were bad. But I don't know why he had to come for pretzels no look the Hulk wrestles. Pretzels are fine. I don't know why I never at home. Who Need you? Don't have to go through a park for half hour to get You should have come for the orange. Julius more appropriate okay okay anyways Yale. Okay yell all right. Was it Yale. I don't know how does say. Yeah so yeah. That's my sister's name. That's not my sister taking anyways. Yeah so I did all the takes blind and then I knew like three of the people and I was like I didn't need to okay Okay so how are we moved into the second round take eight. We're starting around fake the gray and we're not unmasking the top eight. You said. We're not like I don't think we should maybe for the final two. You'll tell us we'll try and guess who said what if you guys want. I want to take at the end for the reveal that uh-huh should we have done a thrifty thirty two. No no five hours to begin with if you had said cursing cursing to a bracket of thirty two peoples hotcakes. I would have said no forever. Never making you again was like Kirsten is here against danced her will and not very happy to be on the spot. Because I think we overworked or this weekend. No I'm happy to be here. I'm very excited to be here. I just spend a lot of time yesterday working on this. And it's a thank you. We're we're thanking you so far so good. I don't know I saw persons instagram story story. Yesterday it said I slept all day. Well because the thing is is a lot of yesterday but there was a lot of stuff I was supposed to do around my house but I didn't get to do because I then had to spend the part of the day I was awake during the take off. Okay anyways it's fine you don't I need to know about my personal life. So yeah we're GONNA start round two and now we're GONNA get the first take from the person. Can you gotta buy in round one. Okay all right so explain. What did this person do to deserve a by so they had three pretty strong takes and the fourth take that I really liked but they were right about it not being a take the needed to be right on the podcast I so it was not family friendly? It's not that it wasn't family friendly. I just feel like I. It wasn't worth. We'll talk about her. Don't patriots will. They get the person I if I get a cut. Then yes okay. I'll tell them anything they want to know but anyways so oh yeah it was just someone had to get a buy. And they had a take that I found it easier to to cut out of the competition. Additionally some other people on anyways this is not like it's not official I'm not a bracket person. And if people have problem with it and again at me I do do not care okay so This person's take is that all songs are better at one point five times speed slow song long speed up and bring energy fast up tempo. Even more it's like a DJ Mix Without Godawful background beats from judd up and tell. Yeah yes that's that is right. And that's why they got a by Tokai. All right and then the second take is. It's okay to go up. One floor in an elevator do kind of secretly judged the people that go up from the first floor to the second second floor in the elevator. So I don't know I mean Jonah. Yeah I went to college in Manhattan where you'd have like a class on the eleventh floor Lore so you generally weren't walking and You judge like you'd be like those legs better not be working if you're going from two to three but I I listen but if you don't know what people would you know. What would people got going on? So what's the other one. I keep a picture you for an elevator Shamar. I was not really but I'm I'm always you're always four minutes late for class. And then the elevators opening on like four six eight nine. Larry Mangas the roundabout roundabout of elevators. Yeah we'll bit but you know you might not a picture before an elevator chamber. But you definitely didn't pick me for the guy walked up to eleven now Anyone who's walking up to eleven. Is there something wrong with you. I'm sorry so it was either all songs veteran. One point five time speed or it's okay to go up one floor in an elevator so you guys can discuss and comfortable inclusion so. I think that there might be something to songs being better at one point. Five X They're over quicker Yeah play a song quickly on Youtube you could go to one and a half often. We'll see it while we talk. What what song would you like to hear a one point five? I heard that coming. Maybe as long of the jacket for your call let me maybe at one and a half. Okay so I think it's going to be even more of a BOP song of the century at one point and we named Song of the century twenty years I think so I think so all right so here we go. It's a short song to begin with Carly Rats. That's another thing you hear more songs more soul songs a- playback speed one point five okay here here we go the wealth left to you as a wish fannies. The same can show when we've just blown the minds of the people that are listening to this podcast at at one point in the car that Leeann. I can't even do the calculations. Yeah we we just broke. Their air pointed to light speed. Hyper drive does that work like that like are they not hearing like if they're playing on and we're playing this one fx. Oh man we. This is why you're here for us to get the calculation troiano more than void voiced awake my wife playing at one X. It's actually negative five. Axa Sir okay. So I actually have a confessional. I listen to songs at one point five or one point two five x all the time. I'm sorry did you just say you have a confessional. Yes I wait. You don't Liana Reality Series. Yes and it's real life Leon. How are you listening to music on one point five x so if you use veal see media player you can speed it up or youtube? You can speed it up on Youtube via do that a lot so I don't know if I And I think that's that's pretty common though is the thing so I would say it's a hot take but I agree with it because I do it all the time I think. What makes it a hot take? There's not a lot of ways other than podcast theme songs. There's not a lot of media music wise that you can listen to at a you can go on Pandora and listen to all songs sped up. I'll jet appetizers on the board for panel. Yeah very happy hands unless watching music videos on youtube or are you bringing the media into another platform like a veal see. It's not an easy thing to do. Akiva yeah I this is the clear winner. Entertain ME I. This is an interesting take. What was the what was the other? One elevators putting pressure on Florida and elevator. uh-huh okay you're going with songs that one point five times beat okay L. L. dollars perfect okay so for the VI eliminated or other takes were. There's no such thing as a funny meme. It's just feeling other people's material trousers office. Funny do not bad and celebrity makes the first one yeah. SVN Original Mamer. I mean it's not the fat Jewish but somebody made it vet. Jewish is with the fat. Goya's show Mike Francesa in in uncut gems. I hear the movie together. Yeah okay at nine on. Their last take was cursed. McKenna's is coming for Akiva spot on the PODCAST. Oh Hey hey champion. So this person. What was their original take? Throw throw. Yeah that's a good call. What's the first thing that's was scripted? TV series series should be capped at one season. Okay all right good run and yet a a great run on. And that's it for Ben. Martell okay is. Is that true. You coming for my spot. Kirsten is you sound like you always have to be here today. I don't know if you WANNA come back because you're still here. Yeah yeah if a much better mad now no. I'm very happy to be here. I'm just tired I had to come straight straight from work. I had to skip lunch. Allowed going for a time check with everyone say what time it is where they are Seven thirty PM okay Liana. It's nine thirty PM. Twenty nine thirty year okay. Well how many hours of work did you do today. Oh fatality from AH with this this podcast thing with Chester. We did we honor. I mean a Kirsten we did too. We did the Patriot episode that we made sure it was at least thirty. He minutes 'cause we are out of material and at a regular on those forty minutes. Seventy minutes pockets with Jeff. Thirty thirty minutes podcasting. Does that his work an hour and ten minutes of work today. We'll wait. Did you pod at one x speed or one point five. I would listen to some of those patriot. Episodes Zero Zero a super loud explosion at the end of thirty minutes. Did you did you hear the The twist in the in the thirty Japan's last week and now what was Oh forget it. I'm no I'm not spoiling spoil. All right tell me off line Okay I'll uh-huh okay. I apologize for being Munich. Buried me know what's next next. What's the next day? Yes okay so now we've got it Actually the thirteenth eight versus twelve seed because we had some upset. Okay wow so we've got okay. Baseball Games should be seven innings and baseball seasons should be eighty games. There would be no sane reason to argue. Otherwise if it wasn't status quo where keep imagine. Good the mets would be. If Baseball Games were seven innings. Your what if they were eighty games at the I eighty or the last dating. We'd be like even baseball on the last eighty one a bad team in the first eighty. Okay Yeah we could get familiar with okay and then the next take is getting into bed after taking a shower is disgusting because your body is still dripping in your dirty body water and you will get your bed dirty and covered and bacteria Korea your bed sheets towels to this person. How what is it? What happens in the shower like dirty body water? I'm released Latin take got through because I wanted to hear the reaction. I know that I normally dry with the towel before I go to bed but I was just wondering it. What are you guys do is yeah first off? Nobody gets out of the shower soaking wet. It just gets into the bed and covered himself like a baby would do that. And then you yeah yellowish awesome. What are you doing? Why did you get into bed? You're soaking wet. I don't understand understand employs like also that you're dirty bodies water. Wait wait hold on Alice's say of course maybe this person isn't a millennial the only use bar soap top sheet so we started this qualified. This person they have a top sheet. used the bar self so it's definitely not autumn. Elenio millennials kill taking it killed towels towels or Akiva each awesomeness shower. What's the other one again that that baseball games should be seven innings and seasons? I think the shower is the hotter. Take just because it's so like I don't even know what's going on. What are your own? You're more orphan with this person is saying yeah I definitely agree with Baseball season is way too long and everyone says that. I don't think it's such a hot day everyone on and also you'd ruin the stats forever. Like nobody would ever hit any significant number Homerun used to Baltimore. You'd have to double up the ball onto acts what they did move the fences in like fifty two you do that. Yeah okay all right. You've intrigued us a wet bed person. Then I think what that means something else though then. Wet the bed. But there's definitely in a damp bed. Can the everyone in agreement on that high. Guess so okay. Can you match up the takes with the previous round okay. So the shower bed take was that there shouldn't be the after credit scenes in movies. Okay this is one where I should have made the What Brad takes her first? Hey good I forgot to and then the baseball games and innings was the reception. Just pick a topic already to podcast. I'm sorry to that. Man Who's third and fourth on their third and fourth were touristy spots at the best places to go on vacation Asian. You should skip the best kept secrets and this. Last week I asked Collins donated a hot take because I don't know about sports. Let me just pull up. What he said before we get the sports for twenty twenty? Oh please don't I'm bad luck so I can't watch sports because my team always loses yet but that's why we should get you watching our favorite team the New York Yankees yes. That's right anyways so I asked them. Is this a hot take and they said it's a hot take today. It wouldn't have been six months ago and it may may not be a couple of years from now is take created specifically to be hot rather than an organically hot take Mitchell trubisky it will lead an NFL. I felt to the Super Bowl. That was when did this person to submit. Let me look up who they were well hidden on this. I'd like to know the time stamp because Mitchell trubisky yesterday I think I think they could have thrown robin vow. We would have done better. Yeah Yeah one point. He was throwing for two inches. Yeah did I get rid of the time to Chester predicting your NFL predictions at the bears. We're going to be seven to now. Yes yes yes yeah well. It doesn't predict he tells rob he's like well. No there's GonNa be a tie. They were never going to not spend a day in first place. Never not going to spend it the yeah. That's a good memory. Who's the taker person? So this was Abe Sutton and they were. I'd take so it was not like yesterday. Okay okay. Ab Sutton wants us to pick a topic. I I have proof that. ABC Message. Adjust today yeah. Instead last week's mass singer was an amazing episodes. Maybe we've changed his mind versus amid probably. We have proof proof that he has bad. Takes that the the Mitch trubisky because the same person that's a Mitch. trubisky is going to be a super bowl winning quarterback all saying we should just pick a topic already. AB sudden was he. I think he was supposed to be the winner of the you're supposed to be in jeopardy contestant but he couldn't make it. I will say this. ABC You can come on her nap. Not just for the Mavericks for full episode when Mitch Trubisky with it's not that he doesn't WanNa get it on the. Are you smarter than a sixth grader. Well he already played. He's the one who played played. Oh sorry I moved out. Any further played against matic and Sorta one news was kind of tie in Seinfeld. Yeah okay all right so the shower bed wet in your bed is moving on on taking a shower at nighttime gross. What's Neck Akiva? Will you take a shower after this. PODCAST ask before you go to bed. My wife makes me without. Do you own towels near how we have we have. We're like got we. Have you know more towels than you could shake a stick at. We've got so many so many y'all south you're bragging now no it's the opposite. It's like nobody wants like I know. Oh she doesn't let me throw up where we don't. We only bring in things into this house. We don't throw them out. Yeah what about towels sheets. Liana very very quality sheets. They like they're not like those Jersey sheets or whatever different thing what about a sham while sleeping bag bag. Yeah then you can just take a shower hop into bed you just relevant and you just bring it out the next day are. Are you tired of going to bed soaking wet in your disgusting shower. Germs how sleeping bag bag now for only ten easy payments of sixteen ninety nine. Ring it out using again tomorrow tomorrow. My God this is horrifying scoring involved. No we're fine. I'm ready to go to the next one. If you're ready to go to the next took up I figured out what's going on okay. So the first take that we will hear is sleeping in. A BRA is comfortable okay. Great audience here. Yeah the next one is the most legitimate sounding website homepage. That is actually just wild. Click Bait is the weather channel. Currently it's some of the headlines. Are you still on pace for unwanted record. Mystery Hole on Florida beach has parents concerned and parts of us in record numbers eight dead. Okay all right so this is can we look at the weather. Channel DOT COM com. Please do whether whether whether dot com. That's one of the SAM googling weather channel. I'll google sleeping and Bra in the story that I got from whether Dot Com was disappearing. One ton rock has reappeared where let's do the weather channel the national uh-huh world news from cover weather dot com. Yeah but I feel like that. Were sort of one step away then from saying being that where are we weathered deniers I feel like I don't WanNa say that. No you don't want to say that. Yeah sled sled dogs lead police on slow speed. Yeah so I don't know maybe maybe yeah I think this is. This is a pretty good take I take on. Anybody have a take on the sleeping Brian. Feeling it's I'm not sure. If Robin Arkady now let me ask you a question to the panel is it. Is it a comfort issue. You're not that's a post two zero. It's comfortable and you're not supposed to do it okay. So if you're if you're a night shower not a Morningstar there you. Are you like wearing the same Bra. The next day like what's going on on this Sham Bra just wring it out back back. I think it depends on the type of Bra probably Because like I can imagine. I have some sports bras. That are pretty comfortable that I could see wearing to bed But but no I mean no. It's not comfortable but I don't know does that. Make it a heartache The heartache is its tail on some of these how about Three cold blasts coming. What it means for you phrasing rob I the weather channel? One I think is a great one. Here they've alerted us so we don't know what to do with that the the Breteche. Yeah Okay so you're you're going with the weather channel. Yes okay so just. Seeing the weather channel take was from the same person who said that putting silverware at the beginning a- and sleeping in Lebron's comfortable from the same person who said Chinese better over mashed potatoes on rice. Okay what else did they say. Yeah traditional taker. This person we've knocked out okay so then there are other takes. Our concerts are terrible. You're better off watching it on your iphone from across the room. One point five speed. There's ask Nick which I was particularly excited for this. Take to obviously when the entire thing is. Football should be played without helmets and we can see which team is cuter. Okay Okay who's that Amanda Rabinowitz Rallying Friel no my mom. My mom had India wants that. She wanted to do commentary for football games or she just talked about players butts and entire their grandma would walk into the room and just is like root for the team with the best buds okay this heartache Oregon Rowan real rolling baby rolling knob they don't exist so no and so then the the last match up from this round. Yeah we've got the. US National Anthem needs to be revisited. And made into a Bob. Maybe something by cash or Harry Styles gotTa get the youth on board right and unite our country carly raise interest in Vietnam. We solved it and then the other take is. You shouldn't stop drinking cold drinks just because it gets cold. Hot Coffee isn't a magical elixir that warms. You like a coat if you like iced coffee. It's okay to get that instead of hot copy. Okay Kiva would is off in the winter CACHACA remaking the national anthem finally unite our country Why can we have like a bracket for who does it like? Are we short arly. Raising their swift has a lot of national appeal. I think that music severi polarizing. I feel like the loan is who is the WHO who has one hundred percent approval rating is an in using that could be. That could write the national anthem. Um I think what we need to do is who wrote the old national end of Francis. Scott key is that we gotta cancel him and then we'll need a new one need a new one. I know but there will be a half. The people will say he's not cancelled. We realize we gotta cancel him you. There's no way for someone to we fully cancelled. I I mean I mean I guess there are few ways but yes yeah. I think it would be hard if you were going to remake the nationalist claim. I think it'd be hard to get a artist that you could get the country united on that. They are enjoying their work. Yeah I mean for the first paragraph of this guy's wikipedia page guys cancelled friends. It's what if it's just a remix of the original national anthem. People would say why they remixing it. The I like the old one so okay. Yeah I don't the I cannot believe we would. This guy is beyond cancelled. Francis Scott key learning so much about it keep purchases. I leaving eighteen hundred eight to one six twenty johnny. We're not singing this song anymore. Let's bring cash once the other. The other take was no need to stop drinking cold drinks just because it gets cold outside then. Anybody say I'm not having a cold. Drink because of the weather. Channel DOT COM. I think people will judge you if you continue to get a cold drink. So is this a cold coffee. If I get a cold brew on January January Tenth People Are GonNa look at me funny. Yeah it's like when you see me walking with my iced coffee. It's frozen to my hand but I will order hot coffee when when I am dead. I mean I definitely switch over from hot coffee. It took hold coffee and then back hot coffee dependent on the weather. So Oh see. I'm more likely to do it the other Way Leon I. I'll drink hot coffee in like a hundred degree heat in July. I don't care I don't get an Jeff you just. You don't even care you just drink coffee all the time though rob right do you do you partake in knock once in a while but I i. Don't it's not a regular thing for me National Anthem needs to be a Bob. I thank you could never agree on one artist. I think the country's divided. Maybe we'd end up having to separate national anthems I keep. It takes a a break from reading wikipedia to chime in on this. Take this guy you better google. After the fact sprints cut key. I don't know what's going on here. I've heard enough. He's canceled the nineteenth century. There's a lot of a lot of stuff going on. It looks like at some point. Yeah I'm going to go with the the drinks okay. It's up Leon okay. So I'm just GonNa go back to what I believe. The definition of hot take is. I think the national anthem one is hotter take. I think we were like so. It's cool. You can drink cold coffee in the winter against anybody really judge for that so but maybe maybe there's more to to the US national anthem that we need to uncover here so Yeah I think at the US national anthem okay. Perfect a AH national anthem. When's maybe you could we? Maybe somebody like who's not with us. Like maybe we get like a Hologram of Elvis Sing the national. Feel like there's a lot of anti Hologram coachella that's so disrespectful the two-pack or whatever you know you know you need some sort of we are the world type deal right. Were you together and do it that way okay. Maybe the wand offers could do it. We are the Wanda on a bad idea. All right okay. So the a cold drinks take with from the same person said suits should be erotic aided and there are other takes were any food should be able to be eaten at any time if you want a burger for breakfast you. You shouldn't be considered a psycho person anarchists and I would rather someone talk behind my back. Then tell me their issue to my face. Let me live in ignorant. Oh hello hi how. Courtesy of Kyle King King. The the national anthem take came from the same. A person who said that public transportation is fun. You guys are the person's Day yeah. This person should announce the national anthem idea on on public transportation. The next time they are writing on their friends. Yeah Yeah your friend if I wrote the subway every day for eight years and I you know obviously I had total zero conversations like I one time. A guy had a seizure and I'd like prop his head up but while they came like still there was those speaking. bingoing of this person is making friends Okay maybe that's the band that they'll get together to then right the new you national ads right everybody on the bus. Just go onto subway cars. All right guys. We're going to sing the national anthem. We got the bucket drummers. It's a saxophone player. We're ready to go. Is it a remixer. It's a whole new song. They said it needs to be revisited. Open for interpretation. Okay okay so now we're into the semifinal round here okay moving on okay. So now we're going to go it's the first displacing versus the thirteenth. Lacy Okay okay. We've got horror movies. Comedy movies are the closest to shower that exist and and someone that likes one but not the other is wrong more genres again. Horror and comedy or comedy or similar and they have like the whole rationale for why but I don't think we need to get into it and then the other person's take is apple picking is the biggest waste of. Ah Take an apple picking the thing. Do you have to do one football Sunday year. When it's like the worst later games like skip the jet showing in my family? We just went up. Pomegranate like some pomegranate field or something and is the worst because like how many pomegranates. You're GONNA eat so we're picking them and it was for charity like it goes. It goes like needy people but you could eat whatever you you want but how many pomegranates do you want to eat. The whole time was there. I think I'd rather be in an apple field an apple. I don't even know how you eat a pomegranate we. We saw the House that we live the bat that there is there is a tree that grows pomegranates. and was the B.'s. Got Him to get done but I. I don't know what to do with them. I'm not going to eat. beat them and especially furious today because my kids discovered that they could smash them and any white clothing. Yeah immediately ruined. I begged my at the same thing with beat. Like that's it right into the table. And then they bring to the table and then they get on me. Yeah I'm not eating so my my kids just Like smashed a bunch of pomegranates. All over the yard like a gallagher concert just happened and now there's GonNa probably be wasps lost snack time India. What a life we? Yeah the worst part of having kids is the granite messy dogs not gonna eat all your pomegranates and smash them. I'm not GonNa Smash Pomegranates. Technically the tree is a plant a church. Maybe it's the worst of all you should have come to the BNB this week. We complained complained about pomegranates. For a very lengthy time is Jessica lease mentioned them as one of the hardest to eat foods So yes yeah. There's incredibly difficult. There's no good way to eat them. So that was the take the apple picking literally nothing to do with pomegranates. Cook Rights matter at hand so I went apple picking for the very first time a couple of weekends ago. My experience was I one of joy as I realized is I could just run around and pick apples off the tree. I quickly collected like fifteen pounds of apples. Then had to lug all the way back. I'm still eating through all the apples. I paid thirty bucks for a load of apples So at least the biggest waste of time. I don't know but I'm currently burdened with the mother of apples and it's it's were really annoying to climb a ladder to get to the apple or not. That high wasn't that high. You could pretty much. Just just pick them from the ground around tall. I am also tall so that was helpful. AKIVA also really don't like him. The wizard of Oz tree was like. Hey how do you like these apples. And then starts thronged uh I thought that was really creepy. Goodwill hunting was both. Yeah the tree. It was throwing the apples and goodwill. Yeah herb not okay. I don't even know we're up to we're supposed to vote on picking or horror and comedy comedy and her comedy. He's he doesn't like horror movies. No I hate you. Apple picking is bad. You Hate Combo. I don't like Har Har Move. Sorry okay but that's a hotter. Tanguy thing I look for you or five five. I have an appointment. I'm in four hours. So we're we're not done you guys done for hours. I'm just leaving okay. I think apple picking is the worst I I but is it that much heartache. No everyone knows it's thing I one of the great parts about having a job gotTa Cherry. My kids go cherry picking once a year. I haven't done it in Era Cherry Picker. I'm always working yeah. I don't know because everybody that I work with is like Oh. That's so exciting. You're going apple picking and then I just had to pretend like it was is a great time because felt awkward. Because I'm not from the Northeast and so I don't. I don't do offend anybody if I say that apple picking garbage if I got my wife up here she'd be. Eli Apple Picking. Oh that sounds great exactly. Nobody mentioned apple. Picking we learned be like hey when he is very taxing. It's okay it's for board people. Yes exactly people. That don't have anything better. The right like oh I guess so. It's apple it's October. Fifteenth Apple Picking Okay just a wedge take is hotter guys. I mean I don't know if it's hotter but I definitely agree with the apple picking. I'm at the Apple. Picking because my experience was is apple. Picking is the most amazing thing in the world. I Win Apple. Picking was initially excited and had a bad time. So that's my take Akiva Kiva. Let me do a quick twitter search for apple picking and let's just read some random tweezers so you hashtag apple picking or just the words apple just apple pick okay all right ladies actually probably more royal right pen. Environmental Group tweeded having Fun Apple. Picking game this past weekend a picture of a bunch of people and they're having fun. Yeah this smiling. There's a count that calls themselves a Zadie That says how NY women dress up to go apple picking this person Larisa mcevers says must've had a lavender flower or two in the apple CIDER. Infusion it's picking up a bra that's the Cope and put it in quotes. Sure okay so generally on twitter now. These people could be fronting but it seems like they're having Fun Apple Picking King. This woman is picking up her Apple Watch today and she's excited. I searched apple. Picking sucks the see the Anti Apple Picking tweets. Yeah we have apple picking sucks unless there's booze involved. This one is apple. Picking instead of I can read that one. Yeah you got another one is a verified. Guy Says Apple Picking Actually Kinda sucks and he's verified. He's gotTa be you're right. The haters guide to ball and Philly Apple. Picking is the worst okay. The haters guide. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Stand the alien marketing guys says we lost my cousin an apple picking Pumpkin patch place and it was the scariest moment of my life. Her Dad had taken can her off to see something. Her Mom was pissed at him and I didn't blame her one bit. He should've said they were going off. Like I really yeah. That's they lost. I have nothing funny was with the Dad. I feel like the kids not lost. If it's with a pair okay all right. So where are we in the apple. Picking Working Okay Anyway so the apple picking take came from the same person who was talking about getting into bed after taking a shower is discussing. Okay Hello Yeah and then the person who had the comedy movies and was the same person who songs are better at one point five times speed and there are other other take was remakes for movies are always a good idea. Why in the first round it was? It was Matt Stewart. All right now stewart okay Yeah Yeah representing the Great North Stunting Kitchener Waterloo area. Okay all right. I know. That's not where matched Ritz from from. I'm getting my maps confused. All right okay. Oh it's not a map bracket it's it's it's a matt. I don't know what it is. Royal Rumble Royal Rumble double. Now we're finding that anyways. Okay so then. The next take we've got is this the second semifinal this is the second semifinal. We're almost done guys. We're almost there. Everyone just stay. Calm is just normal day. We've driving out of your way to save ten cents a gallon. Alanon gas is a psycho move. And if you're a travel reporter or blogger enlist people watching your top ten list of things to do when visiting city the country Xyz you should be fired immediately. If you can't think of another activity just say it's the top nine things to do Could we disqualify both of these. Yeah does either. One of them has to advance. Could you WANNA play now. Yeah one of the one of the things. I had thought of with Kirsten but I don't know if we implement it was like we each get one poll where we could like Yank thank somebody out and cursing us to bring a new taker into the bracket. I don't know I think that this thing. I don't think we get more complicated. Yeah I pursued that was Xyz an Improv from you or was that in the hot take that was in the heartache. Okay we got a Canadian taker. Bigger someone tries to throw the letters x wines and I said that because it was right. Yeah actually I no. I'm pretty sure they said Oh. My God whatever the could've said either it doesn't matter it looks the same to me and I don't need to be attacked for being Canadian. Okay we ought to do. I have a right that the second take. Is that if you say that you watching you people watching as an activity you should be fired from your job. Yes that is that is the take it I mean. Is it like oh going to eat is that also fit under the criteria will give you just list something. That's ridiculously stupid. Then I think they're that counts. I don't know buzzfeed Article You have other you guys ever people watch though. I feel like people watching twenty nineteen. You know it's kind of creepy. Why are you watching? Well don't watch people watching all the time watching like you're just like hey. Would you rather go up. Picking people watching watching far more interesting than yeah. I don't know about that. I know but like if I'm on my lunch break from work and I have an hour to kill. I'll just go to the Mall Mall. That's like a five minute. Walk Away and look see what people are doing You GotTa Pretzel Sometimes. No Orange Julius though no no. There's no worse Julius the mall. Yeah because it's abandoned because it's pretty soon. Yeah actually it turns out that the mall is actually a very bad place to go the people watching. There's actually no one one there. It's really weird okay. Better better off going to apple picking to do people watching are you. Are you fired immediately. Because that's like offensive to less people watching because we have the craziest people. You really should come watch them. Yeah I think the people watchers need to unionize so we don't they don't get fired and what was the first take and the first take was driving out of your way to save ten cents a gallon. Anybody does that like nobody thinks it's a good idea for Oh my dad's makes do that. I'm GonNa Drive Twenty minutes out of my way to go to Costco to get gas. I'm like you're wasting gas driving their stop But Bernie's going to burn is GonNa do okay all right all right I gotta go with the People Watch here. Keep aware people putting people watching tinder profile. That what if people watching is like one of your four things in like twitter bio or or tinder profile. Then yeah you gotta take it out. I don't would you would you swipe right or left whichever the good one is on a people watcher Burston. I'm very strict requirements. There's a shirtless pick. I'm swiping left if you talk about. How score for beer? I'm swiping left. If someone says I love people watching then I'm probably going to be like you're pretty boring if you can't think of anything else to right. I left on pretty much. Everyone because I hate humanity. I've a question about dating APPS. Is it true that no one puts BIOS anymore. Because I don't they were still sponsored podcast but I got one of my friends to download ship. Yes so that I could be in their crew no one row BIOS and just said that that was like a thing thing. No one writes BIOS anymore. Yeah there's a lot less biased here. Let's all pull up and we'll see what what we can find on tender here. I'm not reading that. That could be a hot take. Well they they had like a lot of stuff. That was fairly normal in the last bullet point was loves a a good licking. Okay say that I am says I'm a capricorn so according to Google. I'm looking forever ago. Moving back to abby. Finish up school from Calgary. No bio-bio Single Dog Dad looking for a dog mom into another podcast. Where uh-huh tender? Yeah these people have no bio sorry guys. Yeah Okay my dying alone can help you guys with entertainment tain man yeah. I know. We're nowhere near the mail bag yet. Akiva but I do think that a listener comes on and then we get to pick three swipe rights for them on dating dating APP. I think it's still a good idea podcast and you just don't do it. Yeah no we do. I think that's to be if it's I I think it's a guy cursing. Correct me if I'm wrong. Guy Twenty Swipe rights. And if it's a woman it could be like three took people I feel no one guy it like. You can sipe as many as you want. Because they're mostly all grade swiping for someone who's interested in a man like just find one. Swipe break great. Okay all right. So people watching or George W rates depends and get ten cents on. The gas is is insane. Yeah so people watching fire the people watchers. Okay tell you bought People Watch so the driving out of your way to save. Ten cents was the same person who wanted the national anthem to be revisited. Like Steam Matt Harvey on the Ninth. Yeah inning game here. Last week was every town and city across the United States should have a voting system where once a year at citizens can vote to ban to banish one person from their town. ooh like the lottery. By Shirley Jackson. Did they go then to another town. That then gets to banish rush. Something banished sued by that. How I don't know one other person that lives in my town for could I say rob made no alliances in your town? After these many years you are on the chopping block. Yeah it's like that thing where it's like if your if your friend group doesn't have the friend that no one likes that friend. I Yeah I think this is This is evidence that you should be taking more public transportation because think about how allies you would create all the strangers and on the bus. That's a good point okay. So the people watcher advances that did you say what what else. The people watcher came up with that people came up with putting silverware at the beginning of say the weather network. Okay all right okay. Loser ruminated was Michael Higgins okay. Okay so now we're on the the final final of the hot take off the final file to ground. Oh Wow okay five hours later. Yeah okay so the first take is Canada should sell Berta to the US Okay and and all Karaoke songs should be modified to be two minutes or less secure. We have it at one point five speed. I heard that only improves it. So sure her okay. Let's just check out our provinces here. Yeah Albery is that what. Kirsten lifts yes. Albert is where I live is widely regarded as the Texas of Canada The most conservative part of the country. there's cowboys. Yeah it gets very cold see honestly it's a godforsaken place now if we were talking British Columbia at least you know I we can almost drive to Alaska Alberta to seems like Little dead and cold a sack to get Alberta. You know what's in it for us like give us being couvert and we'll call it a deal. What would we want Calgary? But if you're what I become American when they sell so you're moving. Oh yeah that's a good point I'm moving is who's sending this like an eastern Canadian person. That's saying hey sell the part into Canada. I don't like I don't know where this person's from let me see if I can find them on. Mike Okay the heartache was Canada should sell Alberta to the US not the US should acquire by. Yeah right but it's also the problem with this. which isn't a bad taken? It's hot is your. They're assuming that Americans care about Canadian provinces as like a mistake what happened. I thought we were getting Greenland. I thought trump was going to get going to buy Greenland. I have to assume boom that. They're working on behind the scenes. I haven't heard anything about it but I assume it's coming. Everything else concur. Yeah Greenland isn't a greenland. Why do we greenland? Finland's we say in Finland rather have greenland or Alberta though get another hockey team gives you a well hal agree and how great Minton you got. Edmonton isn't the world's biggest mall Edmonton even know it used to be able to world's biggest mall talks my take because you always go and you think oh I like this but I don't love it and I'll definitely find something else because I'm at the West into mall and then you go to like one hundred stores and you do the same thing and then at the end of the day brought nothing because you kept thinking you were going to find something better mall suck I like malls. I just don't like West Ed. So let's leave the province mall and then what was our other take. All Karaoke songs should be modified to be two minutes or less. Yeah I mean. Is there anybody that would be against that. Zero zero people sing longer karaoke songs. Well Yeah but everybody else listened to be happening Nobody wants to foreign. And if minute dirge right so everybody would be in favor of the two mini Karaoke Zone but then does that nullified as heartache. Yeah yeah more correct. Yeah realistic take. I don't I don't know if we have any authority to sell Berta to the United States now for the final round. Are you considering just the fourth taker. You considering all the takes you don't WanNa know all the tanks maybe we should consider the totality of the takes. What do you think rob? If we'll say it's tied and what do you think. Yeah I think we can consider the other takes. It just seems weird to have the winner of the hot hot takeoff bracket when with Canada should sell. Okay yeah based on that. I think that neither of these championship takes are strong. Takes Aches and this is my fault for the then apologized for that NC This didn't want people's names until that so the person with the take Canada should sell Alberta to the US is the same person who had apple picking is the biggest ways getting into the bed after a shower is disgusting and offer. Credit movie scenes are always significant. Okay there were stake at the end. Probably those are the four takes there and then the other person with all Karaoke songs should be modified to be two minutes or less also had People watchers should be fired him. The weather channel and silverware at the beginning of a UH pretty close There's a story on whether dot com about people people that get in their beds soaking wet. And how does it affect you so whether whether person is also is not Alberta right right is karaoke whether persons Karaoke so I was leaning towards the Alberta Person I just. We just didn't want like the Ottawa. Saying the Berta to be the only winning take but now I think the better. I'm not sure. What do you think rob or Lana? There was no motive. Why why should Canada sell? Yeah Alberta to the United States is this information. This person's phone number. Install them Canada's this Canada have a lot of debt debt. Like why are you selling Alberta. Just because this person doesn't like the people who live in Alberta Person Up and the facebook with this name mm has no profile picture. I couldn't find a twitter and I didn't go to look at what their picture. So this is a mystery to me seems so so weird that we would have one in the middle provinces. What do you think Liana? Yeah I mean why. Yeah why Al Berta of all do we get the Canadian rocky. The only part of them right the majority will and I don't know if it's a journey a lot of them are in Alberta one is the what if we take on the debt of Alberta but they give us oh Canada a much better anthem and now we've solved the problem timber naturally now oh can and we just say Oh America. Yeah and it's about. What an experiment Canada? The quarter Canadian. Our home and native land true a patriot. Love is something. Our love's command star read is cleans the trying even if you're at one point five creating a UH Berlin us and free eilly autumn. We've heard of new long we done. Oh okay I know. According to the song all right I think by definition candidate should celebrate or the US is by definition a hotter taken karaoke songs. But with the other takes now maybe just agree with the person that the Karaoke songs on the silverware and all that stuff so I think is making a lot of sense that talking about the silverware and what were the other takes the silverware. The Karaoke Karaoke shower for king and weather. There're channel channel. I think is tapped in. This is the kind of person I wanna hear on the mail bag. They have a lot of good ideas. Maybe they're not the hottest but I think they're making a lot of sense and basically even three out of four coherent ideas I feel like is much better than some of these people are doing. Yeah given counterpoint. Though if you have the other person on you can ask the story. If they own towels just get into bed. Okay well I I think I would be open to the the runner up also appearing on the mail bag but not championship. Okay yeah so are we. Annoying thing are are Karaoke friend. The weather channel King right the champion just as somebody who just finished with the wand off I can tell you that no songs to be longer than in two minutes. Oh yeah the one song should be sixty two seconds. You can go a little further than that but yeah we get it after a little minute. that same Karaoke okay. So have you is that the decision is that officials tell us. I think so good with that. Well I think I I you two are on the same page. I'm still gonNA go with Apple. Picking is the biggest waste like for me. The crowning hot take care just because of personal experience but but I'm unhappy with the overall winner champion as well give us a rare up. First runner-up is declan PIPPI. Oh declan okay. Okay and the winner of the hot take off is the Great Meghan. Total fool Z.. Had One of the great takes of all time the first time I met her. She said WHO's The guy who did the Te'o podcast with Rob Medium Boden. Yeah magazine came over to me and said for several years. When you were podcasting with rob I thought you were Alonzo boating? Google both of us. Yeah I mean you guys are very. He's similar very similar. Okay wow that yeah there are Champignon. Yeah wow what a what a what. Crowning achievement for Meghan Z. Yes very excited that she will be coming onto a midway segments just to reset those takes that the sill silverware at the top of the buffet is the definition of insanity sanity the most legitimate sending website homepage. That is actually just wild. Click Bait is the weather channel if you are a travel reporter or blogger unless people watching in the top ten list of things to do and visiting city Excise Ed. I am and missed the first part of the people watching if you're a travel reporter or blogger and you list of people watching as thing to do in the city I we're talking about. Ah at any point while I don't know what you guys are talking about because I did read the taken I guess you just don't listen to me. Nine hundred dollars. Yeah you think you heard a lot of fucking area. Yeah okay well so Meghan Z.. Nailed it. Yeah well one of these irving winner of the hot takeoff. You have any extras for us. Kirsten your takes trash. I mean we're that we're well past two hours at this point. Do we want to go straight to the really crazy. When they're due on some of the other good ones where they only submitted one take quickly just do both? Yeah okay so I'll just just go through a couple. A couple of the good takes. That didn't make it and were this person's to take that I like to our overtime in the NBA should be decided by game of horse and overtime In Nhl should be decided by a fistfight between the two captains idea. So I love those but it didn't love the other takes And this take. I just thought this was absolutely wild because this person submitted thirteen days. And if I could get this this take to show up all on one screen. That would be really helpful to me. I'm just GonNa get it was going This the rant about Akiva. No so this person wrote this exercise betrays the purpose of hot takes responders to this form are thirsty to just try to impress Akiva and hear their name on the podcast which is totally opposite to the idea of a hot take. Keep your opinions to yourself dummy and they submitted thirteen other takes I just thought that was ironic comic and I will not be sharing their name on the podcast. Because that's counter to a hot take you know Also because I apparently didn't keep the names of the whatever anyway and then move over. Warren Buffett the best business minds in the US reside in the Kardashian Jenner clan. And they've got the cash to prove it uh-huh and then one more a Warwick Davis has a better career than Jennifer Aniston outside of the Leprechaun. He's been in Star Wars Harry Potter Willow. Life's too short and more. That is a very hot take spicy right. And then now we'll go to the insane takes Everyone in the world should use a greenwich meantime. It would simplify planning scheduling of events meetings and international travel. No one would ever be confused about whether the world series was on eight eastern eight central. It was simply be on a twelve and it will be in the same thing to everyone. I was insane frail. Mary's heartache was faxing the sexiest form of communication right okay now is. Is that in terms of just like the feel of the paper coming out or is this like a a new way of sexting. I wish that I could tell you. But or as they call it in the office place sexing. I wish that I could tell you but also I wish that. This was the first time I had heard Mary give give. That take takes hers when I saw this because she has said it before. You didn't choose Mary's take. I feel like there's going to be some tension in the Riverdale House. He didn't really try on the other. Takes to be honest much. Like the FANFEST. Axe Machine Blake fairly recent. The take one more time that she said faxing is the sexiest form of communication. She gave no further explanation Is it because you get a physical piece of paper. We're right away. It's taxing the new form of getting a note that says do you like me check. Yes or no Thin if you've got a are you up. Are you responding. Are you reflect on that person. I would be really scared because I don't fax machines. I'd be like my haunted like what's what's happening here. Also that people have said I've heard this that You know there's nothing sexier than the sound of ooh. Oh no and and then what else for insane takes us. Someone said adult diapers. She'll be normalized in society. Should invest more effort into advancing self urination fashion in technology. Okay and then someone said water is terrible drink it tastes awful. It doesn't quench your thirst. It serves no purpose. Yeah that my mother-in-law only drink seltzer. I mean at least that's kind of water announced. Yeah in fairness I think it was nora from survivor. -Vivor that said that this morning that water tastes like too perfect and then I how the short list of the most common takes that were given so that these can know basic takers. You're not good okay So t is better than coffee. Came up a few times AKIVA is cool. Came up at least ten times thirteen times at least thirteen times. Game of thrones was always bad. Drew came up a bunch. Babies aren't cute or some variation on that a lot of people shared their opinions on cancelled culture. And nobody needs to hear your opinion on that a bunch of people agreed that Turkey is the worst holiday food and a lot of people think that peanut shells are good. Peanut shells are good. People think that like that with multiple people wrote in and said I like peanut shells. Yeah at least three. Wow They Z. Q them or just suck on the salt ORLA frail. Mary was one of the people who said that. So you can ask her. I'll facts are right away coming on too strong if you do that. Really excited if she gets a I don't have have a heartache. But I do have a story from weather dot com goes help. Save Reagan Presidential Library from flames. Oh well do we have a best take of the night before we moved to the mail bag. What was what what wins the? Take your hottest acre the all time time best take I think it probably is that taking a shower at nighttime is gross. Yeah that one dour nighttime. Libya single single best. Take so much time uncovered those are the takes all right. Let's let's let's go to the mail bag all right. Kirsten Eliana are still with us for the mailbox person. You haven't had enough Punishment today for me. The mailbag is the most fun part. So I if I had to leave now than. I think I'd be pretty salty like those is peanuts like those or if you if you're just GONNA do get rid of the wheel and just do one thing it could just be only the mailbag Um Yeah entire podcast baby like that out of all the options is probably the most sustainable where they continue to just podcast every week about what they could podcast about exactly. Yeah on a bad idea. The do you think that we should incorporate a feedback a fax number for people to be able to send us in their sexiest sexiest ideas. Yes of course the sexy shake off which we'll be only accepting via fax if you get a fact wind for this podcast. I'm going to have to tell your wives because they come up here. What is that I just saw on the phone bill? You added a fax line. What am I good enough for you anymore? Okay Arhus Mary and why she faxing you and why does she think that apple picking is no waste of time home Tom. Why do we have so much? Paper okay I have an idea that is Near and dear to the heart of one of our friends who's joined US corrupt. Yeah it's the ideas from shut up Tam. If you haven't had enough of him beat the name that he came up with sucks. It's Robin Akiva Alpha and Omega. But the idea is robin Akiva watched two episodes the pilot and series finale of a TV show and then come together to review the show. And guess what happens in the middle but he suggests the shows buffy angel or bone so. This is the honest Tim Tim. You're on a hot streak. Why are you going back to the spiritual successor of your worst? I idea that's ever been implemented on. Show the final four. We watch the last four minutes of four different films right. I feel like this is way better than that. And you should definitely watch. Premier Finale of buffy the vampire slayer potentially. We're GONNA watch six episodes of television for one one. It's buffy Angel Orban's one one or the other Yeah I mean you could always put it back for the sequel mechanism if if you WanNa stay with more Bari on. Yeah so you should do buffy off and then if you like it and want to do a sequel then you angel they're all great television advert actors of all time so honestly you. You can't go wrong with this idea. The whole series the entire borey honest. IMDB page if if AB sudden gets his way that could be what we do is watch forty on his shows. Now Liana did you. A by the recent fact that was cited on this podcast that David Boreanaz is worth worth. Two hundred fifty million dollars wasn't it was it two hundred and fifty million dollars total. I thought the original link was per episode or someone the episode. It was a Typo. Yeah that's at two hundred fifty million. Prep yeah I mean he's been he's been consistently employed in Hollywood would he's always in stuff so he's GonNa believe it beneath fifty million. I mean has he been making ten million a year for twenty five five years. Yeah I guess that's a good invested a lot of Papa. John's along the way yes. The side deals the side hustles. I don't know that is a lot of money for okay. Probably not but you know what in my heart David Boreanaz is worth two hundred million dollars or not. He's actually has that amount of money. I'm just so glad you get to finally show. How big of a Baroness Stan? You're I love you know. I think the biggest mystery of his career is that how he got so far with the name. That's so hard to spell. Yes it is weird. So many actors changed their names from like a normal name. A second normal named Brianna. It's actually made it in spite of his name right Yeah yeah well thankfully. My phone started auto correcting for me so because I would have to Google it each time. I was Gonna about him because I couldn't spell it right. Yeah okay okay. So I looked them up on celebrity. Networth DOT COM which is More factual than the weather channel Dot Com celebrity network. They're saying David Boreanaz net worth thirty million two thousand per episode. That's probably more reasonable. Yes probably Leon Hart Heart Yeah see now. There is a button here on celebrity. Networth for random celebrity is there anything to that Akiva of playing these celebrity Networth guessing game. Yeah that on the wheel this second. Okay you're into it. Yeah so do it. Hit the button right and now a number of ideas that you guys turn down and then you're like no. This was nowhere shopping much better idea. No AH THE CELEBRITY Networth game. We were betting on. Yeah all right. Let me give you one. That just came up okay. Okay Yeah Bill Ballot. Check check with the Celebrity Networth estimate bill bill figures. I bet they're going to be low on him. I'm going to say sixty three million sixty three million dollars. Okay all right. Liana is more or less than sixty three million dollars over over knowing they have under under thirty five million. I mean it would be. He's been checked cook the books and then he might be he might be yeah. I mean he's been making eight figures for many year. Okay okay point so. I don't think that this could carry a whole episode but maybe it should be out on the wheel for game night. It is on the wheel game celebrity. That were already why. Why is one of the pitches was the celebrity Networth game? Okay all right literally as in the Google document right here. We didn't have. We didn't have a bid for it but it was it was. They was literally mentioned on the show several weeks but it should be all recap related celebrities. Okay fine that's note for whoever ends up being those maker for Napoli okay. We'll have the subway networks for the mets. When we get to the map wreck just let you know if you have to decide which mad is better? You know who's got more money bread from Canada one of our great friends who made the Royal Rumble and the Madden game says if we put if we right now pick up for the next time. We want to add to the FISHBOWL. Instead of having a vote on twitter which I've not added yet if we give him the name of six shows you will make a battle royale and we can play that on the show and that will be decided. You WanNa do that rob. Okay Liana as somebody who came so close to Royal Rumble Glory. Do you think that we should determine the show. That gets back into the FISHBOWL. By way of a royal rumble the sensitive subject. Still a little heartbroken from watching my fake animate Petar Avatar get yeah thrown over confused guy. Yes exactly I feel like Liana. Would've Liana would have cashed in ready Melissa's biding her. Sweet I'm I'm while she forgets. What this podcast is? I'm stuck on the heartache We really shouldn't surprise surprise prize Liana with Melissa. That was a big with US play. I'm always down for any sort of royal rumble type situation but you know I don't know because the stains for some of those shows came out real hard. Okay well. This is a great point so insane tate. Okay so you're cursing mckiness is here and I have spoken with her. I'm sure she is messaged Akiva on her own. But she was the biggest proponent against taking sex in the city of the FISHBOWL. Well and for me it comes down to taking anything out of the FISHBOWL. If you guys make a poor decision and put something into the fishbowl that you don't WanNa talk about you have after US veto to get rid of it. You shouldn't get just clean out the FISHBOWL. Whenever you want if you make a poor decision you should have to live with the consequences of it? That's what this whole podcast is about She makes a good point Akiva that I think there should be a mechanism for changing things but there should be a price. Eissa has to be paid for us to rewrite our own mistakes going forward I think it should be retroactive. His yeah what do you think about the battle Royale. It doesn't mean if you lose the battle royale you're dead forever but one show gets back in so it'd be sex and the city city boy meets world and we could right now. Pick other shows. A listener named Amanda has started a campaign to get frazier in the fish. I I don't know if you've seen this rats it's her twitter bio people say. There's no more BIOS. Twitter bio is get fish. So are you sure is actually really a very fun show. I love the idea of watching another wrestling match. It is it is November that could bring from Canada potentially put together together a survivor series. Match where the Fab four from sex and the city took on the BEN SAVAGE EDGE TO PANGA MR Fini and another friend girl meets world could they. Could there be a survivor series match to potentially dessert. 'cause I don't think that there's really a lot of people that are clamoring for blossom to get back in well. It doesn't be Boston. We could pick the other shows now. He said it'd be a battle royale. It'd be like a mini Rumba with just like success except maybe a survivor series match between survivor series. But what were the only thing I was thinking about the golden girls you take you take it out. No I don't want to take it out but it'd be funny to have them in survivor but I think people wanted to stay so our yes. Sex and the city versus boy meets world survivor series. There is is this a full episode though. I think it could be in the mailbox. Okay Fine Yeah. Get working on that Brent I'm seven of frazier is called the adventures of batboy dirty girl. Okay think that frazier is a really really well made show. That probably would tear it apart. You think maybe tearing apart. I don't think there's lots more fun of Liana or are you a the Big frazier person. Yeah I liked frazier on Roman Rob's side here. I think there's a lot to make fun of robin take a lie detector. Test Squad Robin get hypothetical from Stephen. Okay variation on the band's our podcast listeners. Send the hypothetical questions Robin and give discuss their answers. Here's a couple of examples. Someone offers this deal twenty thousand dollars for nothing or two hundred thousand dollars if you pick the number one. What do you do if you had to wear masks for the rest of your life what would you? That's not a good this is like would you rather gonNA. Yes the hypotheticals do the closer men ones. Don't buy birth. Yeah Yeah Okay I have the cards long. Do do better scenarios that you'll talk about more like I feel like it's one of those things I'm sure you would get a lot of hypotheticals And then a lot of them. You wouldn't WanNa talk talk about whereas at least like the ones are like you know. There's a pretty decent discussion on most of the time. If I could tell a very predictable story so I have those cards there and and then I would often have Nicole read one two then Play this game and it bothered her to no end she. You are hates hypothetical situations. She doesn't like nonsense. No doesn't like messing around like this no joke. This show Fooling Oakland. Why she's not? She's not a super fan of the show. We're not serious enough for You want serious bike as Nelson from Denver. And by the way. Here's a voicemail so you want to know about that. But in the meantime Nelson from Denver says what about Robin Akiva settled beefs. That's the name of episode couples or friends intended petty arguments. They have with with each other. And you guys decide who's right. Here's one example. I love my girlfriend but placement in the Dishwasher is insane lates. Don't go on top and he sent us a picture. Yep Yeah some judge or whatever. Yeah but this is Robin Beats First of all. I don't know what judges we never didn't episode. You got to bring in Ali Louder for that you got. It'll beefs like the advice podcast right. I mean that's an example the one with eyelash. Instead of millennials trash visit problems are trashed. Part to okay. You just theory. Problem is the same thing. Yeah look let me give let me solve this problem right now that you either other keep the relationship as it is or you're breaking up you're not gonNA change the way. Somebody loves the DISHWASHER. Could you set backs with instructions. The sexiest way to handle the problem. But they'll pay attention. Yeah just the I love you but I'm I'm going to do the dishes from now on you. Don't worry about the Washer. And then he just has a chore Forever Right He can just do it forever. But you can't change the way a person load the dishwasher. Yeah us you say you're saying stay miserable forever. Yeah or it added relationship and that goes for any of you might have. You're gonNA stay miserable forever. Change interesting thing right now will absolutely not change under any circumstance. That's right well. You can't make them no. They have to one of all right right one more person. This is from being loud. Who is one of our sixteen takers? Robin Akiva play. The family feud this idea is great by always say you should write in you always say hey. This idea is great. You can do a sense of style questionnaire and use the one hundred respondent this idea so much fun likes her own idea. You can each get a couple of team members. I would work either way. It'd be hilarious theory guys and guess how the audience would answer simple questions. You should definitely put this on the wheel. Yeah Robin Akiva play family few okay so this has been pitched a number of times. I like that I think is even John John Pitch. I think that we've gotten this a number of times. I've Rodman who played family. I think the thing that we haven't cracked necessarily has been that I don't think it's me versus you Just one on one so we need to have like enough people. At least we do a drafter Ab- throughout like we do an episode in the mail bag gets picked. You draft three three people so I feel that the minimum amount of people that we would need on this podcast would be seven people on the podcast which is a lot with with no house right. No that would be with a host versus. I think seven days because he couldn't do nine. Yeah so I think it would. It would be good but it would be. It would be tough to pull off. Could be a live show idea. Yeah that's what I thought that. Maybe you know the live show you have Nelson from Denver's call. He's got some live. He's you gotta live show question all right. Here's Nelson from Denver. Hey Robin Akiva. This is Nelson from Denver. This Connie guys do pitchy. Your next live show come to Colorado One it'll save me some money. Not The travel. Yeah to there's great places where canoeing I know treasury down after that we are playing the The mets next year so the rockies and mets August third the fifth. Got That connective tissue. You're come down. You have a good time. We'll be able to breathe care to be so and we stay at Nelson's a new show Kiva play scrabble. No Robin Akiba get tattoos work. Mommy I keep it can't be correct so yeah Keep doing the good work all right. Okay so I did not pitch Any he pitched Robin play scrabble but then he was kidding for. He wants go to Denver so a lot of cities are starting to make a make their case so I think Denver has got to be up. I mean has Denver airport which choose run-up staple. Yeah I like this idea. Although he did not say it was a great idea. So I don't know how to judge it because that was so Okay so then ver Denver people out there. We just need the the one problem is i. Don't think that we messed the rockies. That's going to happen then. Have you ever been to Denver up. I've never been to Denver Grew up I grew up in Denver so so we can all stay at my mom's condo inside the house. She had to get rid of the chicken. Yes so we've got that okay. All right. Do Kirsten I'm out of ideas. But this week the cursor Liana have any quick pitches for us before we spend the wheel. I WanNa know what happened to the strategy. PODCAST with Jani Autumn. Good question you know. We mentioned it. We love genuine and we want to be in the genuine business. That's right rob what I am saying. We want to have genuine okay but I when we set a lot of people were like yes queen and a lot of people were like. I will delete the astrology. Who like fun? So they're gonNA UNSUBSCRIBE anyways We he made the do a vote on this rob. If if you're really not against it but a lot like I've never seen such negative feedback against an idea. Nothing against Jenny like it was just is people. Some people are really anti astrology. Yeah well I think they should listen to her appearance on the RJ PB MBA and then reevaluate. Because I was a lot of fun here in her dog about it. So so what is she going to do. She just doing a leading clearly would get you. Guys have charts. She would then go over like a brief overview of what stuff means I and then she could tell you why you are the way you are Or say something and it's completely like bs and then you guys can be like okay cool. It's fake the to Lebron get along with each other. Kirsten is Robin Lebron's on a lot more features I it seems like you guys get along like half the time so that makes sense as leaders. Rebirth who can issue. Yeah new maybe. Could we get a sneak preview. We get a little bit of like Like a trailer alert teaser. Of what what kind of stuff would be in the podcast. Maybe that would like what could be from a few weeks ago and then you've got a trailer I'd like to see a pitch needs for like what would be in the episode okay. Well I'm sure that she probably has already that she could do. Sure I'm not against it but I want I want to hear you're more than anything else I used all my good ideas for wheeler no wheels also have traffic okay. Well you have a contrast. I Have Robin Akiva Makeover Mark Zuckerberg I like that. I don't are we leaving physical makeover or are we like revamping his whole thing. Do you rebrand him. I'm not exactly how that would work. Sure how that would work. I Have Robin Akiva. Release a magic rap album as macklemore plans to release the first ever magic rap albums. I guess you guys the beat him to it. That magic like Magic Johnson like magic magic trick get allusion rob. You want to start in you know already heard the Oh Canada from earlier. I think we're going to start with with mad with magic or with the wrapping. I I don't know I guess three to figure into interpretation Robin Kiva play. Farmville Robin and Kiva Play Tic TAC toe. Oh Robin Akiva. We have to talk pot. Yes it will take toe during the creator of the person who wants to do uh-huh oh that's good On the wheel no they gotta gotTa give us an episode. I was talking to the one person who is really into talk talk and I was like what do you think they said. This is a horrible idea. They should not do it. It is not good for you. Media Person Says downtick top. What are they gonNA guess? Sounds like all the sounds like people really want to keep us off. Tick Tock Akiva. Yeah no I agree. I think they're afraid of what's coming. They're afraid they listen. Listen because you guys are the best generation at podcasting. You're going to be the best generation at tech talk if you guys. I think the fear is that you'll get so good talk talk you'll stop podcasting known. That's their hope. I think yeah yeah. I don't think we're putting anything on the wheel today but we did. We put two one last week. I think I think were officially putting on We have. Are you smarter than the sixth grader. Going officially onto the wheel so that is our November sweeps. What's going on the wheel all right? So here's where we're at Seasons are episode. Seven is up to three spots on the the wheel so Akiva should the survivor series happen. And we see the winner of sex in the city versus boy meets world. We'll get back into the FISHBOWL. Is that officially the FISHBOWL number up to fourteen. No because when it gets picked it's not gonNA we're not going to get to that for a long time takes exmouth few weeks to me. Okay I got it got it. Okay all right. Then coin flip world is Carmen Sandiego with Eckstein the crappy movie diaper which which is now at two spots right. How about this? Let me ask you a question. So it came up last week got vetoed and there was another spin but shouldn't it be but it was at zero. Those spins the shouldn't be back to one. This is when people start to climb. You can't rule actually have one more idea. Yes okay I think we need to codify the Oh my goodness shut up Apple Watch. I think that we need to codify the renowned constitution. We need to figure out all of the rule. I agree agree because I am sick of you guys making stuff up on the fly. You need to have your Ombudsperson there. We need to have the Supreme Court we need to figure. Go out because I'm tired okay. So anyway twenty twenty ratified the Constitution. Should that be on the wheel. I don't think it's a full lapis. Oh and I think it's happening up. Let's just go right through the toossion Alley Westchester in Chester. New Land. Okay well how about this. How about this? What if what if the Rene Constitution is this is? What's ratify it was ratified me where we make you read over? Is it written like we're putting into action okay. So basically the stamp the constitution gets written and then we are officially go through the articles on the on the podcast and then we have to sign our names to it and then fast each other and then be sexy. Yeah Yeah I think this is a mailbag episode like a mailbag. I don't I think it's a full episode though. Why also you guys? It wouldn't make sense ratifying boring. Well what's boring when you guys are quibbling over. ooh What's the rule is the thrill is that's not boring and then that should be mentally into the concentration. I think is right AKIVA. It's red fine. I think if you can get the Supreme Court involved I think that'll about because we haven't even named the Supreme Court yet Supreme Court constantly the first step is you get the constitution and the constitution is going to outline what the Supreme Cream court has jurisdiction over true and then how you select the supreme. Yeah so if we had any constitutional scholars that are out there that would like to work on and getting the Constitution together. Yeah it's probably not an episode but I do think that this should be an APP. Constitutional Congress that gets called into commission we could in the middle of reading the shows that are on the wheel. Okay so you're in the middle of trying to get the crappy movie diaper down down to one spot. I think it should be at one spot. I what do you think or is there early on it. It was at zero for the spin last time. Because it got vetoed this veto count. It knocked down to one for this episode. Well I feel like I. In cases where something gets put onto the wheel but it can't be selected and it is selected. It gets an extra spot so I feel like it. It should also get an extra spot here so it should be Okay was it actually at zero spots when you spun it last time Tito you can't come back. It came up and then it was. Yeah right so so. If it's a veto does it get reset to zero. So we can't technically you put it at zero. We take it off the wheel but then we'll forget to put it back on right we're stupid like it counts as zero. Yes and then uh-huh technically it would come back for one this week since it was there last week. However because it was vetoed I would say that counts the same as if you hit it when it's not eligible and it should be to have we the Constitution the wall Jonathan Taylor Thomas One? Yeah I wonder what happened there if we have precedent in the situation. Okay before Thanksgiving like bigger on the wheel. Kirsten what are you vote. I've accused basis racist. I vote once base one space. A keyboard you say. I think it's technically supposed to be too so. We're at a stalemate where too frail make. We call Real Mary Right now. Are you up. Let's call right now. Let's call them Mary inexplicably explain this. I mean the point where it's technically midnight on the east coast. We're fair one. More hour to go. They may not answer the question mark. And we're gonNA see what happened. Okay all right then. We have the people's choice. Take off is is done. We have the third wheel tournament we have game night seashells. A trash king of the Matthew Wheeler no Wheel Robin even even need a verdict and Robert versus a sixth grader. Okay Robin Akiva. Need a verdict is not on the Williams. Oh okay it's just been greenland. It's not a man that doesn't have it right. Okay yeah all right. She's too busy with houseplants Illinois. HOUSEPLANTS and ignoring okay. No children is easy after. Watch them. Yeah Okay so yeah if shave having kids so easy then This should be coming together. Real quick okay. All right so we got there. I yeah what what are we doing here with the crappy movie diaper Well Mary did not reply within one minute so I'm insulted and I don't I don't know to flip a coin. Do you have a coin. Do I have a coin. No It's twenty nineteen Akiva not have a coin or I have hold on. I got a nickel here. So why did you ask me if you have one if I had when I have one on my on my ears rose. It was like a gross nickel. All I I can't even see the year anyone behind my computer. All Right Arava is headed. Do heads it's one heads is one tales is still growing up. I guarantee it's going to land on. It is a gross nickel. I think you should just one or two heads is one all right. I win one one. Okay all right now and I don't have a veto of its Eddie all right. Let's get ready. Let's spin the wheel for episode number fifty eight which is going to be recording about Seven weeks from now. Okay in one of the longest recap episodes of all time okay. all right. TLC shows are our trash. Okay as one to use your veto Liana and I rob Yes say this big. TLC fans the season premiere of Ninety fiance just happened. So what we what we would be. Watching is the the season premiere of nine day fiancee's which people saying I have not watched the episode yet. Only case we're GONNA do it but people are saying it's great. Yeah and and we'll possibly pick a second. TLC Show Additionally Hannah Shapiro had said that she will come on this episode using her money in the bank. Pat Suggest another Kelsey show. Oh yes you should absolutely watch an episode of married by Mom and dad got cancelled halfway through the second season a few years ago. It's a glorious ask okay all right no shortage of options for a second show Jono a lot about TLC. I'm not super excited about it. But if eh you guys say it's GonNa be good then I will. I will follow you into the gates of hell. Liana you tell rob that ninety eight theon say is amazing and he's GonNa love it. It's amazing you probably won't love it but I'm very excited to hear you talk of stain. Keep keep my veto in case The King of the Matt's is coming up. No it'll be it'll be a crazy ride. I'm very excited about this one. Okay the L. C. shows or trash and we have extra time to get our you know to give our respective yes the opportunity to Ashen her money in the bank path. Okay all right so keep anything else. What time is it? What's the time check for you? Five fifty nine do you want to. Do you want to quickly read we. We got a couple of funny. I tunes reviews. You WanNa wait till next. Sure if you're if you're still ready to go on this point what's the difference going to sleep. Do we have a way for people to fax. It's in there. I tunes reviews. We got a fax number one hundred percent. Guess backs number. Yeah that'd be great to read the facts. As every week it would be amazing but they that would be a lot of white finally answered me. Yes she said Yes yes think. Tell who married a fax in the first few pages of The Fan fiction. That's right yes all alright that right now and I would like you to kindly fact the first. Yeah Frail. Mary who famously that we got to end this whole rabbit hole over that we said that all fan fiction was Arabica Akiva and frail. Mary said that not and now. We've come full circle that sending pages to people is sexy. So which is it. Yeah I know we visited automatically become sexy problems. Your probably shouldn't facts it. Okay I I hear by the way if overdoing plugs Kirsten and Ramiro here the the latest episode reveals off the hook off the chain or whatever got you know last several episodes of Riverdale have been totally wild thought everything with the gargoyles king was going to be like the craziness and then season forward. Become a normal. No no it gets keeps getting crazier. Someone messaged me after last week's episode saying I think that episode of Riverdale is what doing drugs feels like it is in completely insane and would love. You know if either of you WanNa ever watch another episode Riverdale. I'm talking about with Mary. Ni- Yup. I took my kids into into a Halloween costume. Superstore the other day because That's really the best time to go into. One of those stores is like three days after Halloween. And I know that a lot of Riverdale costumes. Yeah I got those south side serpent jackets and stuff. No gargle king a lot of people people on Riverdale last week were dressed up as gargoyles king for Halloween so wealth. That was a major plot. Point you're welcome. Yeah Open in spoil the previous episode of Riverdale on the show. I'm here to tell you. They definitely did. They need US speaking to so. Yeah all right so so frail. Mary's never going to get our fiction out our friend section out. I guess and I do it. But she also has like five episodes of CAV's gas to edit right now because we were still recording eating episodes all summer and then she just has been busy and has not edited them. Okay all right. He's running marathons soon. Okay guys like just leave her. Be Okay all right. 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The Amazing Race Canada 2019 | Season 7 The Vote To Return

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The Amazing Race Canada 2019 | Season 7 The Vote To Return

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In light of the news that the upcoming season of amazing race Canada will be allowing you to vote in a previous contestant we have one such previous contestant here to talk us through the upcoming vote and relive some of these experiences of please welcome one half of the dynamic duo of and Dave from season one of amazing race Canada. Mr. Dave Schramm. Hello, dave. Hi, thank you so much for having me. Mean we're so excited to talk to you. It's really such a fun time. We've never gotten to podcast about season one before because we weren't recording a podcast then. But the recollection was that you you jet basically stole the entire season out from under everybody and on our shortlist of people to come back. It's always you're always at number one on the list for me, the you. I mean. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I think honestly, the reason I think we kinda resonated with a lot of people was just the fact that we were genuinely having fun. And I think people tune in every week, you know, they wanna see candidate they wanna see entertainment. But I think like at the end of the day, they they wanna see people having fun and really kind of enjoying it because especially the race. Like it such a full especially stressful environment. And it's such a, you know, you do like I it is very hard store. When you can you know when you can do win still kinda make jokes and have fun in. You know, take it, you know, not not life or death. I think I think that's why you know, people kind of, you know, excited about us. And it was crazy. It was crazy. So how long have you known that you're going to be part of this vote? So not long may just kinda sprung it on us and. In. So, you know, they they were which you wanna be part of this foe. You know instantly said yes. And you know, I often got off like do you? You know, is there going to be in all star? Like if you if there's an all stars, you guys would you do in? We're always like, yeah. Of course, like if there's an all-star if they asked us than for sure we'd love to do it again. So this vote thing is a big curveball in just kind of came out of nowhere. So yeah, we're just kinda I dunno where rolling with roll with the punches. And I'm I'm stressed. It's stressful. I'm like, you know, because it's it's not like, you're you're just on or you're not. It's like it's this vote killing hanging over my head. So we'll off the see have have you had any they talked to you in the past about whether you were interested because I know a lot of reality shows are constantly asking people. Hey, would you like to come back some point in the future? Have you guys talked with that much about that said season one? No, no. And now we've always come in. Kept in touch with the producers in and stuff in. There were other opportunities. We'd kind of worked on some stuff for, but they're never had been big never kind of like given us on optional or or really asked as much about the race other than you know, they they enjoyed having us. We obviously love working with them on. So no, it was like it was totally out of the blue totally unexpected really tight turnaround to have basically two weeks to get your name back out. There is that what was your strategy? Ben for that. Yeah. Like, I mean, honestly, I'm I like I had to reactivate my Twitter account. I had to you know, since I used I used to call it the Facebook. Now, it's just Facebook. I season one's a long time ago. Right. So all joking aside. I mean, it's it's seven. Years. Right. So I I kinda like all people are gonna remember us, you know, 'cause the other teams I think are from season three season four stole. You know, that was kind of our fear was like, we're not really top of mind anymore. And and so, yeah, our strategy is just trying to like you to say coming get our name out there again. And I don't know what you're pretty fortunate. We have a lot of people tweeting on sending Facebook messages. Lot of these people are, you know, they're kind of reliving some of the moments in court, frankly, reminding me of some of the moments that are like, oh, remember this. You know, remember this thing? Remember this time, you guys did this or like, you know, we had a lot of fun watching you, do etc. And so it's actually kind of been funded, you know, kind of go down memory lane in remember a lot of fun times that we did have on the show because we. Did have an absolute blast. You know, we didn't win. Although I sometimes token what we did what I'm hoping seat seven philosophy lucky seats in seven in. Hopefully, first thing we gotta do is win this vote. And then and then you know, center sights on winning the season. So if you came back is there anything that you'd be doing differently who tough question? I mean, I think we did a lot right in season one as far as, you know, supporting each other trying not to get too upset with each other. You know, having fun while we you know, kind of whistle while you work mentality. And I truly think it helped us I think it helped us stay positive health is not get on each other's case. So that was I would say I would put that in the good call. Column in the bad column or the what I would, you know want to improve on. I think is just maybe decision making, you know, kind of taking you know, you've you get you get to make these decisions have to make decisions in a split second. So I think if we just kinda take take a couple more brass instinct through you know, what what do we wanna do ear? How do we want to attack this because sometimes we would just kinda like get into it? And you know, perfect example was the first thing we did on the amazing race. We ran packed our bags up in just said it said something like go in face, your fears. Get your next clue so we run in and it's like a big maze thing. So we run in the first box. You see there's a clue inside. So we just greet inside grab it flew. And we leave will what we didn't know or realize was that, you know, there was like. Ten other boxes the further. You got in each of them had some head like butterflies like we had some had scorpions. So if you chose something that was quote unquote scary than you know, you got better flight. So just little things like that just kinda like taking your time. And then you know, again, like there's a couple things gone into you know, we chose a and get into it twenty minutes later, you're like what the hell sinking. While like, why did we ever choose? This shouldn't have any. No. Then you got a switch. So. Yeah, that's what I would change just slow down a bit. Is there anything you've learned from keeping up with the show? Have you been watching the subsequent seasons in thinking? Man. If I was in there, I would do that. Or I would make this choice. What have you seen in the intervening seasons that you'd really like to be doing? So the new in the Canada one at least much sure about the American one. But in Canadian wonder doing. It's called face all where you like actually going against the other team. That's something. I'm actually excited for because I'm a I'm a huge. I love competition. I love games. I love. I I don't I just I'm very Pettit almost two to a fault. So I think being able to just go up like head to head against another team would be would be super Superfund. I have watched all the seasons of the Canadian version actually not up to date on the American version. But yeah, the Canadian when I walked in. I always have like I've my neighbor teams in all son of a tweet or something. So I get excited about it in. But they have you know, w turn now that's new they have a couple. Yeah. I was just reading over the rules in. And I was like manna I got I got I brush up on this. I learned this. I don't even know the difference between a a detour in a roadblock anymore. I need to remember I need to give back into the race mode. So on a civil or doubt, you know, you guys may assume it would be like, you would stand out as the returning players with all these new players, you know, like your season, you had, you know, body break, the big celebrities who kind of everyone kind of looked at is the big threat, and you guys kind of Rabaul a kind of hide a little more than the background. How are you going to handle if you're on it being like, I assume the teams will remember you? But being the team that people remember from that season. And that kind of is the expert returning player. Yeah. I it's weird. I actually hadn't really thought about on tail. Last night in you know, why last night because I was walking survive in Joe that his name job yet. Joe? He's back on survivor, and he was kind of saying the same thing. He's like, you know, you walk in, and you know, you instantly kinda feel like you have a target on your back end. Like, it's not like, you're welcome. Then I hadn't really thought about it. No for sure this is going to be. I think it's ten I think was ten teams plus on returning. I'm not sure yet. But whatever let's call it ten ten teams. Like, I'm sure they're not going to be thrilled to see us. Or if we don't win this vote, whoever, you know. And I don't know how that's going to play out as far as you turns w terms excetera, you know, it. It is weird. Like am. I mean, I've we have done it before was a long time open it Lee. I like the first couple legs. I think it may give us a bit of an advantage. Just to like, you know, we've kind of like we do know what to expect slightly. But I think after the first couple exit. It really isn't gonna matter. We also never left candidate rights season. One was into quote, the producer here in a love letter to Canada. And that was kind of a thing like they didn't want to lead candidate. They wanted to show Canadians. What they're missing just like the US Canada's a massive country rights so much to see and a lot of probably Americans and Canadians. Don't get out of their stay right? They don't go and travel. They, you know, the hop on a plane and go to Mexico before they hop on a plane and go to some other state. And so so we've never had that aspect of it. We've never had the international aspect. We've never had the, you know, the language barriers in the, you know, the taxi dr-. Drivers who you can't speak to. So that'll all be brand new to us as well on. So I think it will be kinda even but yeah, I don't expect many teams to be excited to see us. That's for sure. That's certainly the next thing. I was going to ask was how prepared deal feel to leave the country. If if it comes to that. So I have been very fortunate in my life to do a lot of traveling. I love to travel. I'm always, you know, kinda planning six months out in advance. So, you know, I've been to conscious where I don't speak the language where you have to you know, try and act out, you know, what you want. And so I think it's just again another layer to the game of amazing race. And you know, I I don't know. It's I've never I've never been timid to to travel in two two. You know, meet other people other languages other cultures. So I mean firstly I'm excited. I'm excited. I think the opportunity excited to like, you know, open the envelope in. Hey, you're going to lag. And chances are I have not been there in I I'm stoked. Honestly. I'm I'm I'm really excited. I think if there's I would rather go to a place. I haven't been to than a place I have been to for sure. On a related note to that. Have you are you planning assuming you win the vote? I don't think you have much time. But are you doing any other preparing besides watching the show, and yes, so what? So. You know, seven years ago. I was I, you know, I started running law, and I really try to get in shape for the show in since then, you know, I believe it or not I haven't had an amazing race to train for. So I have been just just enjoying my life. You know, I've been eating I been making good food. I've been just shutting the gym every every chance I get. So I definitely need to get back into shape. And since I don't have much of a turnaround. It's going to consist of a crash diet and running. I'm just gonna run. That's that's my goal. I'd only represent anything on the race is going to be easy. No, you don't need to be a body builder. Like like Blackie in order to be on the race. Right. So I I'm not afraid that you know, I I don't have the strength to do anything. I'm worried about the insurance. That's what I'm worried about. I'm worried about running around all day and just you know being exhausted. So I'm gonna just start running like last time when I was getting ready for season one. I just ran you know, three to five miles a day every single day. And unfortunately, you know, I won't have much turn around time here. But I just gotta get as mushroom running in his I can. So I don't want people to you know, if we do get on a Kozak. I you know, it's Jadan who is that. You know, I want them to actually know that it's me not, you know, combing, names and stuff. I don't wanna be body. Shamed. Well, I think I think the casts of most of the seasons of amazing race Canada have been overwhelmingly supportive of each other. I wouldn't worry too much about that. But safe to assume that that you partner does not have the same problems. He's been keeping up with his fitness. Yes. So he he actually was a firefighter in season. Sorry, no. He was a police officer in seizing on and a couple years ago. He actually moved to Tronto, and he actually got a job as a firefighter so between, you know, saving lives. They have a lot of they will oughta downtime and. Sorry. I don't wanna rag on on firefighters. Yeah. He definitely stays in shape better than I do. The also got married a couple, you know, five six months ago. So he had to you know, I gotta be in shape for that. Because you don't want to know too too chubby. See I have a different approach like if I if I'm going to get married I actually want to put on like fifty pounds. So then when I lose it, all, you know. And then you look back in twenty years instead of looking back at me like oh my God. Look how STAN I was. I'm gonna look back and be like, oh, yeah. I look so much better than I did one a year that's kind of my mentality. But no, he's definitely in shape. So, but you know, what he's not very good at cardio. He's not gonna cargo. So I, you know, if he's if he listens to this get on the treadmill by we need, we need that stamina. Well, I will give you a tip, which I'm sure you probably know practice dancing. I know the two of you are dancers, but the show just. Every week you'll have a dance task. So this is what you should do more than aside you notice that too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I on season when I do the season. I did a dance. And luckily, I I did very well at it. But I have. Yeah. I was going to supplement. My my my running with dance classes for sure because it seems to be it'll you're totally right. It seems to be a weekly thing. So I gotta I gotta remember how to you know, count, a a I think I think you just count to aid in than start over and just learn those stacks. I have to assume you're cheerleading past is going to help you there again, again, they only count to aid as well. So yeah, when I first started cheerleading, I counted nine or ten times in the I got in trouble. Let me tell you. They were not impressed. But yeah, I it's funny to some of my old cheer friends have been messaging me in wishing me lock in sauce. So it's it's kind of fun to you know, honestly, like the people have been. Amazing and we've had people from all over Canada reaching out. But especially in my hometown of London, you know, like, the the response has it's kind of humbling at times, honestly, you know, because again, like, I don't know ninety five percent of the people who, you know, send me a tweet. I don't know. I've never met, you know, they're not my friends my family, Selena when you get love and support from from friends and family, it's to be expected. You know, when you get love and support from from random people you've never met. I think it means a lot for and. You know, you kind of have this like obligation right in insane thing when we're on season one like we did like every week. I was like, you know, people are cheering for us in a soft. When we knew because we knew that we have been eliminated in season one while they're showing these in you know, as the season went on. We've kinda we were getting stronger and stronger we wanna couple legs in a row Keillor. Just you know, they're coming out on the street. Like, oh, you know, I know you one, and obviously, you know, you just smile, and he can't say anything, and then, but in the back of your mind, you know, you're like oh God, I'm a fraud. I'm a fraud. I lost I lost. And then when we did lose we had people coming up to us telling us that, you know, oh, they're they're they're child cried themselves to sleep that naive. You're just like oh, don't tell me that like already yields so guilty in badly. But you know, again, it does kinda show on the level of you know, kind of support we were getting in again humbling is just like the perfect word for it to dig too much into sad memories. But I'm curious if you thought at all about that like last leg, and what happened and. Know what not what you differently? But I'm just curious if you think about that kind of how that went for you guys. Yeah. So I mean, I so I would totally be low buying by setting never thought about it. I also, you know, you do have kind of quite a lot of time to. Come to terms with is the right word. But yeah, like, I had a lot of guilt because it was you know, it was my. Yeah. I don't know. Why was a detour roadblock road one? Now who knows okay roadblock? It was a minor road block. And so obviously, I felt guilty. And I think me crying on national television was proof of that. But yeah, after the fact though, you do kind of I don't want you look back, and you're like, I don't know. You're like, well, I do a lot of right? Didn't I you know, you kinda like, but it does eat at you like, of course, there's still times or you. You're like, oh, man. What who knows who knows? What could if I had just got that extra five bucks five minutes earlier, like what would have happened in the finale, blah, blah, blah, by the end of the day. I don't know. What would I do differently? I don't I don't know. I wouldn't I wouldn't move. That's for sure I kind of went away from the center because someone told me that it's a little more popular down there. So it kind of, you know, ventured off and I wouldn't do that. I don't know devil sticks jets not not a big hit that will sticks. But it was only head. I don't know. I can't juggle. I Ken devil sticks. And that's you know, I don't know. I think the other contestants to kind of I think bay kind of Barada to you know, like Selena's hula hooping away. You know, I I'm getting ready to give some money to her. She's doing such a great job, you know, Kim's drug Ling, which does like an actual scale as opposed dental sticken. And then Jolie like he has no lakes, and he's like talking about, you know, being a war hero essentially, and I was like hard to compete with that. Yes, it was hard to compete with that as as our placement would dictate by. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess a long short answer is on you know, I I did my best. I was trying my hardest. And it's sock at the time. But looking back on it. You know, it is what it is. And we still have to do so much amazing pun intended, amazing stuff after the show. You know, we we got to do stuff with World Vision in Brazil, we got to do some TV stuff. We did a big notice Baid gala dinner enshrined auto for the Special Olympics. You know, I mean, we had so many opportunities after the show which like again we hadn't been expecting. And that was that was cool. I was on. I mean, I wouldn't say it was better than winning two hundred and fifty thousand dollars each by pretty good nonetheless, you just have to approach everything with the right attitude. Right. And I think we did that. So that was that was that was that was like winning. I guess that's what I tell people. I'll sure is there anything on your wishlist that you didn't get to do the first time out that you'd like to visit or see or attempt owns great question. So the wishlist saw one thing soil, compass start actually with one thing that I think other people had a wishlist for that. I I don't agree with. But a lot of people will say, oh, we're like, you know, aren't you pissed that you didn't get to leave Canada? And I I honestly and truthfully responded that in no like, I I'm actually the lad that I was on the first season. I am actually lied that. We didn't leave Canada. And that's not just you know, me saying that because I was not seizing. But when you heard the producers really explaining in the opening scene of season one. The host John Montgomery Kadian legend says in again, I'm only ever seen the show once so I forget the exact will. But it was something along the lines of. Percent of Canadians will never eat their profits. So they may go abroad they may travel to another country go to states, they'll go to Florida for the week, but they won't actually go see another province, and that made me so sad because growing up I was fortunate enough for my parents to take us on these massive road trips across country, and you know, I had seen so many of our our provinces so back to your I I guess I'm kind of going in the opposite direction. Every question is. I am glad that we did do that. But without being said, I did some now I am Superstock or the potential of leaving the country and getting out there, and you know, annulling for the long flights. But I am looking forward to the language. It is a sense the, smells, you know. Look just everything about. In dropped into foreign countries. Because I personally I love to travel, and I love I think traveling gives back so much to person on. I think there's so much to learn from other cultures. I mean, I don't know how much trauma you as. But the fact that you obviously love, you know, reality TV show in the amazing race. You know, there's more out there right in. It's not. It's not worse. Not better. It's it's just a different right in this world. There's so much out there to see in do so. Yeah. I don't know. I'm still honestly, I I don't know if I answered your question, I think I kind of just went off on a tangent. But that's the best kind of Panja though. Like, I could talk about travel all night. Is you go saying I mean, I think can ins God again it out there. I think Americans ought to get out there. I mean. We both probably think we live in if not one of the greatest countries in the world. I think that's not really out for debate were all so fortunate to live where we live on the net goes for a large part of on that goes for a lot of countries in the world. But it doesn't mean that there's not, you know, so much to like still taking in learn, and you know, I went to university in Australia and in all the time I would stain. Why like I can't believe that we don't have this in Canada. And then there's other times on my own my. Yeah. Actually, what are you guys doing like, this is just so, you know, like, we did this twenty years ago come on like, you know, and again like, I think like Australia is a great country. Right. But it's just you know, you get to experience things, and it doesn't matter if you're in in in a stray Leo or in a developing country. There's always there's always stuff to see in learn and do next thing. That's that's just my mentality. And it's how I've, you know, again been fortunate to travel so Alava to where's your favorite place that you've ever been? Okay. So. How top bowl, and obviously, you know, depends depends what you wanna see. But personally, I love Rio de Janeiro in Brazil. You know, the mix of the beach the ocean the samba the passion that they have. I was there for carnival. So like the music on, you know, in there's there's an interesting country bay have just the richest of the rich, and they have the poorest of poor. And they have this massive divide and Rio's. Specifically, the perfect example is they say it's the only city where where the poor get an ocean front view because they have these what they call for Valez, which are these sexually like shantytowns that are made out of ten and they're all on these mountains in their built on on the built on you know, faultlines or places that are prone to flooding prone to. Soared I'm looking for like mudslide, it's etc. Grounds, you know, not secure. But right next to it at ground has been deemed, you're so you literally have these million dollar mansions like on this side of the mound. And then, you know, a hundred feet to the land. You have this like massive Abella? And again, you know, you go somewhere and not the place where you can go. And you can you know, you can learn they're pretty quickly about you know, what how the people that have money in how people live, but don't have money. But again like I I love Rio. Australia has, you know, a place in my heart because I wanted to school their New Zealand was unbelievable because it reminded me a lot of of home reminded me a lot of Canada and the place my girlfriend, and I just went a couple of years ago. Was iceland. Ten days in Iceland in just a hands down probably the best trip. I've ever been on. It's just spectacular. Or if you get the chance to go to Iceland, do it like we did the whole country. And it was just unbelievable stuff. You see they're like within an hour. Dry. It's just like, okay. I'm at a hot spring now met a waterfall now that a glacier now at a black sand beach. Now, I met allow of feel like it's just one thing after another so spectacular. Yeah. So yeah. That would be my highlight might might bucket list places. I wanna go topless probably Japan Argentina, I would say those two places I'd love to go. And then I've never been an unlike Canada bear savings. I've never been to off. So I I hate to lump Africa together because I think it's. Spin the North America has never yet. It's yeah. I think it is. Well, all those places make me really excited to travel right now pretty much, but I did want Abacha Canada. Because Justin, I always talk about this like watching the maze. Canada makes us just wanna like constantly booked trips to Canada. I personally have been to Canada three times since I started watching amazing race Canada. And I'm going to fourth next month. Love. So I think the first season especially but all the seasons are a really good at that. But I wanted to ask you on that note. So yeah, you were part of the first season on his show that is now aired six years that is super popular one of the most popular in the country Canada. How does it feel? It'd be part of that like original season that like what does it feel now looking back that that season? And you know, it was kind of guys we're the show is still figuring itself out at the start a million percent. Yeah. We, and I think I think that's why there's such a special place in my heart for the amazing race and season one and staying in Canada for the reasons I you know, already said. It was just awesome to be a part of kind of the history slash the introduction of you know, our very own amazing race. I mean, I think about point there have been a little fifteen seasons of the American one or something like that. So I think Canadians were kind of primed and ready for it by no one was ready for the reception that it got and like the producers like battle CTV the sponsors. Nobody knew or predicted the the response and the viewers. It would get I think like I think they're getting four and a half million viewers a week or something close that don't quote me on that. But I, you know, I think they had really targeted for for what? You know, one and a half to maybe two in their wildest dreams. So they were basically polling in twice the numbers of bad expected. And I stink you know in a country. The refi million. That's big. That's huge. So so, yeah, I do look back on it in kind of with with some pride and. Yeah. There was so much that went into it. You know, the people who you know, we made the video, but you know, the casting people, you know, they they saw and they some potential NAS. And they, you know, they they're the ones that picked us and put us on the show so on and I just think they did an amazing job with it. You know, you didn't wash it insane. Like, this is, you know, some cheap knock off, you know, it was it was just so well done, and it was it was it was as good as the original in my opinion. And and it did do a love lovely job of showcasing candidate. Like you. You know, you kinda said on, you know, this is not a country that you know, you can drive, you know, six hours, and you're you're on the other side of it. It is sold. Diapers. So diapers and again, I mean, just like states, right? Like, you guys have so much to see doom down there. In the same with us. I think the biggest problem that people have is money. You know, it's like I can go to Cuba or Mexico or a week. You know, all I can drink all I can eat, you know, if the hundred bucks open it, you know, a flight out to be BC to go skiing week you're letting that like three grand right like just just flights alone within candidate very expensive. So I think like I think that's the biggest kind of legacy pit season one left with people was was get out and see your much like just just do at like there's so much here. You don't need to leave in order. See great things. And again, like, I I encourage people to travel no matter where so. Yeah. The like, you know, do do take some time to see Canada, you know, give it a little love as well. Because there's so much. There's so much here. So be part of the season. One was amazing and. And know everything that went into it was was just very they were just a class act and bell. See TV insight on it was it was an honor obsolete honor and they treated us also. So well, so yeah, just thrilled to be partisan one season partisan one in potentially part of season seven as well. So if people want as vote to get you back in how do they do that? So the best way to vote is to go to crtv dot CA. I'm pretty sure see TV dot CA slash the amazing race early mazing ratings Candida. Oh, wow. I'm doing a job at this. Dot C A amazing race. And then there's three teams you can go for. And if you wanna go for us drought, we do then you click on vote button and submit your vote and the beauty of it. So I was actually just in Mexico. I just got home last night. I saw hadn't even. Voted for myself yet. I would be the world's worst politician because I absolutely hey, this like, you know, so promotion stuff by you gotta do it. But anyways, eating vote as many times as he wants. So if you're you know, brushing your teeth Eunice wanna hit vote opo if you're watching A if you're catching up on season one of the amazing race Canada. And you just one of voting on stop, you, you do you. I will never ask you not to vote as many times as you want. I'll get my friends in cherry hill, New Jersey to write some scripts for you. Thank you. I've been dying for someone to I'm not allowed to do that. But if a cherry hill, New Jersey, third bog capital of the world, go for it. They definitely are that to anything else. He wanted to tell our listeners if your listeners are in Canada than I would encourage you to vote for us and to go see Canada. And if your listeners or in the states beg your closest neighbors allies, come on up in see us. We got a lot to offer and fries in cheese and gravy is just one of many things we have to offer you got smoked meat and bagels to. That's what I hear. They have in Montreal. That's where I'm going next month. Oh, yeah. They got lots of stuff. Montreal leon. We got. We got everything we got everything you'd ever want up here. Except tigers. There's no Tigers. But other than Tigers, we pretty much got you covered. Well, he had to go somewhere else to see Tigers. Anyway, molly. All right. Well, Dave, thank you so much for taking the time to chat with us about all things amazing race Canada. And we want to wish you the best of luck in getting voted back in. I wouldn't take it personally if Canada doesn't vote you, and I'm sure they're going to. But we hear it. Rob has podcast have had terrible luck with Canada voting. People back in. Our very own Kirsten mcginnis didn't get onto big brother Canada six, but we like to think that Canada has learned from that experience, and they will make the right choice this time. You're right. And you know what? Again, it's up to it's up to Canada, or the Botts whatever happens happens if we don't get on. Then I I sincerely hope whatever team does, you know? I hope that I wish them. Well. But you know, what if we do get on? I hope we get another podcast with you know, we'd love to have you back anytime. Go log, it's I'm I'm really excited to see. What happens? All right. Well, thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it. All right. Thanks so much Dave and best of luck. Let's say you just bought a house bad news is you're one step closer to becoming your parents. You'll probably mold along and skiff. 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Survivor 39 Episode 7 Wiggle Room + This Week in Survivor

Rob Has a Podcast

2:19:28 hr | 1 year ago

Survivor 39 Episode 7 Wiggle Room + This Week in Survivor

"Yeah Josh Blur Blur Blur Ler it. Yeah that's where back wiggle room for episode number seven seven final wiggle room of the pre merge of season thirty nine the final pre merge of the decade a here with the Great Josh Wig. Ler wait a second hold on. I just had a thought yes Dead Air doesn't really translate as a great job on a podcast. I was going to really stretch that ten seconds as around like I had like this very pained look on my face of coming coming up with a with a great brain brain child but just said audio medium and it doesn't really connect okay. All right I'll put up my shirt down onto because that's not really connecting either for the podcast audience. So I'm fully clothed now and ready to talk to you about island of the idles. Okay yes Here we are you. Have you throw me off with the imagery. Yeah well focus up buddy. We've got to talk about the. The emerge is up. Here is up here we are. We're walking away from the pre merge merge into not just the final pre merge of the decade we're entering the final merge of the decade. Would you framed it like that. I was like Oh my goodness survivor. Entering the twenty twenties with this very strong season I like it a so far so good and so we'll talk about everything that's going on Josh. Some speaking of twenty twenty look ahead here for one moment because just to put it on everybody's calendar be sure to circle February twelfth twenty. How we'll just go on? That date seem as like a special occasion very very special occasion. Josh wiggins and I'm so glad that you you asked by February twelfth. Twenty twenty is the ten year anniversary of rob as a podcast. Ten years after the very first episode of Rob was posting twelve. Twenty ten dead. It one yeah amazing. Amazing ooh Wednesday. It's Wednesday Just a random Wednesday just very casual ten year anniversary of Rha. Wait a minute hold on. I had already put something on my calendar from earlier. Rob Are you telling me that the ten year anniversary of rob has a podcast February. Twelve twenty twenty s the same date as the survivor season forty premier. Oh yes yeah. Are you kidding me. Oh they must have planned it that way. Did you plan this. Did you in Jeff Coordinate Award at eight behind my back. Wow How oh. That's so exciting. Oh my gosh we gotta get commemorative shirts shirts. Yeah it's a little addition. wombat hats such a day such a big day coming up on February. Twelve twenty twenty so theon theon look out for that but okay. Let's get back to the task at hand here. It's very exciting. And of course a lot to do here not just doesn't join nineteen but today here in the room because Josh and I are going to go through everything that Josh is thinking about survivor. We've got a wound up coming up and then and this week in survivor later in this. Very same podcast. Kirsten McGuinness was going to join us to talk about. What's going on? And then we will get into Jordan Kayla issues quiz quiz with a pinch quiz for Kirsten mcinnis so a lot a lot to still come in this podcast okay. Sounds like we got a lot going on here today. Let's let's let's wait no more further reduce. And let's do this thing. Yeah Well Josh. You had a big scoop today on the survivor. Beat because I was very excited to see that you had an interview with none other than the Great Nora Salman I Dara yes this was exciting. This was great I've been I've been deep down the minds of a couple of different. TV shows this fall TV season keeping Yawn Wigley rather busy over these past several weeks. I feel like I have been shirking. My survivor duties as of late and with great. Great apologies to the fantastic members of the island of the idols cast Who who I have been neglecting from time to time but I really felt felt like we couldn't escape the pre merge without at least one active player interview and I was very very delighted? When I got the thumbs up that I'd be able to have a quick chat with your friend and mine the Great Nora Of of island of the idol fame of of so so many laughs the caller that never was the shock collar that never was and she was a delight and that interview is right now. Ta Chard Dot com slash survivor where she weighs in on a bunch of stuff. She weighs in on how her expectations of survivor is. Somebody see who wasn't a huge survivor person coming into this. How they measured up against reality? She gives some behind the scoop Intel on her. Visit with Rob Rob and Sandra and y things. Maybe didn't work quite as well as she wanted them to partly. Apparently a conflict of approaches according to Nora. She's do you want to hear what she said as for why. She wasn't able to properly utilize the lessons. She learned on to become the shock collar for Foci. Yes of course I asked her and she says I think what people need to realize. With with the visit to Robben Sandra is that they are villains and that is not my personality I am more of the hero heroine role so it was actually hard for me to take advice from villains silence when they gave me the various options of persuading my tribe. All of these were villain approaches. I didn't feel comfortable executing because they are simply not me or or my style. You can see the distinction when I said heart slash heroin and rob said ego slash villain. Nora continues and goes on to say if I'd had the opportunity to do this again. I would have candidly told my group that I know the details of tomorrow's challenge and if I get the most important role in that challenge I will get a block vote advantage. If I don't get that role I will lose my vote. which will be detrimental to our tribe? In the event of a swab. We will not have the numbers. That's what she wishes she had done instead. She says it was an expensive lesson to learn early on. But from this moment moving Forward Norris says I know that I'm going to play the Norway with truth and honesty versus lying and backstabbing So lots of similar pearls roles of wisdom in this great with Nora that I was so thrilled to conduct. Yeah it seems like that. People are learning the hard lessons that the island of the idols. Yeah I mean I think it's it's a tough school you go out to survivor and you expect to learn things and you expect you expect. Some measure of Tomfoolery Eh. I don't think you expect to have to sit through class and actually like past tests. That's the that's the name of the game this year Josh I. It was able to get a quick clip of Nora when you asked her if she would do the interview with U. UBUNTU CHR this week. Yes yeah it's pretty close before I even finished making the request as I. It's Josh moving from the Hollywood reporter. How're you doing today? Yeah Yeah it is. It's me Josh. Like I told you exactly who I said I am okay all right especially I loved Dora. I'm so happy I need to take a second here and say I am I am. I was very confused and surprised when Jack was voted out and announced as the first member of the jury. That really threw me off. I did not expect that at all. I'm typically not a huge fan of there are being people on the jury who haven't had the chance to interact with other people still in the game like there's four people still in the game that he's Never GonNa get the chance to meet. I don't love that but then that was quickly mitigated by the realization. That Nora will either be on the jury or in contention to win the million dollars and like everything was forgiven immediately. We have made it to that point at least that nor is here for the long haul nor will have ponderosa videos like this is the greatest time line that we are living in. Okay Hi yeah good point good point that is not been brought up on any of the podcast yet. So that a good thing to see that it is not literally hasn't been brought up yep no little behind cast interview the cast interviews cast was great and Sierra was really great to adjust just started with Sierra earlier in the day before we got seemed like that was going into a fantastic direction. Okay Josh so we're talking about the move this week did you. You have any thoughts about what Kelly pulled off at this week's tribal council. It was a lot a lot. Don't don't get me wrong. Big Kelly Fan. I Love Kelly. Kelly has been excellent television and I love that. She's thinking big dreaming big. There's a lot about the plan that I do like. I kind of feel like maybe she should have just cast the vote for Jack Herself. I think maybe you keep this a two person operation ration- you'd give Dean the idol. Let Dean make snake his way into the merge of it's very important for you to break up the jacket Chabal pair you bring Dean in with you to the merged urge you give them that idol. That's fine stirs the pot. ha ha ha and makes everything all crazy off. Yes the POD. Incredible it does all of that. and that's fantastic. But now I think like she entrusted Nora with a piece of this plan and I hope that it goes without saying at this point that I am a huge fan. I twelve Dora Nora I am. I am very much but I don't know that like she's the person to rope into this top secret replan. This is the person who couldn't stop dancing. Even though footloose rules were implemented back at Boakye so I think if Kelly wanted to pull this off I think she should just throw in the boat at Jack. Then everyone's like who. Who is that extra vote for Jack? She just stays quiet on it. No one's owning up to it. I don't know that people are necessarily thinking that it's Kelly who did it like maybe it's charisma. People are starting to alienate her. Further or arouses suspicion or you just stay the company line and you get out there. But I I guess for her. She feels like she's got a really good connection with him. He seems like somebody. WHO's kind of adrift in the game? You can bring him to the merge maybe becomes a loyal person that you can you can use in other ways raised the line. That idol has effectively worthless. There are enough of these people going to Iowa and participating in these games that maybe Kelly can surmise. That there are other people who have these combustible idols. This idol will self destruct in five tribals type of deal that like. She can't even really bluff effectively with that. Maybe like even just having an as an artifact maybe that move is a little less useful on a season like this when enough people know that there's expiration dates and play so I don't hate the move overall I just think it was overly complicated and then just in conjunction with your interview with Nora where it sounds like that her interview with you she said. Hey the lesson. I learned at the island. The idols is that I need to be truthful and not be deceptive. And I'm not going to be in make Nora world a place where people lie. I I have to tell the truth about what's going on so under questioning. I don't think she's GonNa Cover for Kelly in any way shape or form when she gets that question. Why did you vote for Jack? Jack Kelly how do I also think that it's an interesting person to pull into something like this when Kelly herself has already observed in the past when I came back from Iowa and was like okay so this is going to happen. Cool thing happens if you let me pick the position that I'm in and I have my pick whatever all I want right. And it's unanimous decision. Then we all. I'll get to practice the challenge and I got to tell you the stuff in Co.. He's like wow. This is a terrible lie but the good news is she's so caught deepen the lie that everybody knows it. And that's the conversation and it's not even like the lie about what Iowa is that no one's heard about that so Kelly had observed that already and she's entrusting Nora with this move To Take Out Jack a very complicated way so I don't love that I for Kelly. I love that for my experience as a television viewer. I think whatever's GONNA come. I'm from this could be fantastic. I think that is one of those people that you overweight their ability to toe the company line at your expense and I think that's great for us but I think that that could be bad for Kelly in the long haul josh before we start to head towards the Wanda off merge time is coming wide open merge urge. I am expecting to people to go home and say double episode on Wednesday for a quick merged Dram Moon Ram. I love emerge boo draft. Yeah this is always fun. Yeah let's do it What do we WANNA do snake draft three versus three three three three three d the three snake draft and basically you got two bites at the apple at the Applebees van? We're looking for a person. Isn't that could go home. You could win. One Zero could be a tie two zero. It's a tie. Whoever picked the person who went home? I okay okay. That's the way I like this. How do you want to? How do you WANNA go? How do you want to mention to you? Want the first picker you want the next two. I'll I'll take. I'll take the first pick. I pick because I feel strong. I feel I feel like it's going to be hard for this person to survive the merge it's a it's a two episode merge to our merge you assume that two people are going home Lyra just down in numbers original tyro in a way where I don't think the game is quite shake it up to the point where it's possible that'll be like a vocational. IRA goes home but at the very very least one LYRA. We'll go home. I'd be really surprised if that's not the case. And I think that after the some wishy-washiness at the current Foci after playing both sides of the line after being very afraid of their own kind of challenge beast threat level status at perhaps they project jacked. I think somebody who may have alienated himself with too many people to survive the early merge because this is somebody who typically gets. I'd at this point. Take my buddy with the cool socks. Aaron Meredith I feel like you know once upon a time this is sort of like your classic merge boot and maybe things are shifting these days days but I think with with one pick overall. Just start here. I think starting with Erin I feel like with two shots in this episode to people who can go home. I feel pretty good about Aaron being one of them. Okay which bummed me out. 'cause I've enjoyed Aaron a lot on screen things a good storyteller. I like that. He's willing to play sort. Sort of seismically. He's not playing safely. I don't know if it's great survivor. But it's really good TV and I love those socks but I think if you're is to be voted voted out soon. Then at the very least he ends up fueling a really great sake wand off at some point in the not too not like when you go to the Karaoke bar where they serve something. Yeah you drink sake. It's it's a little smelly but the decor the aesthetic of great. Okay Josh. I'M GONNA go with my first pick a man who This past Wednesday night he he had a little something something now. You would think that people are like well. Dean doesn't have an idol. Now he is one of the LYRA guys. He voted out Jack at the last. I vote which I think. Kind of blow up his spot a little bit in terms of like was he sort of ingratiating himself to the people with the new vocab even though they were going to vote for him there so they were planning on voting for him he seems expendable to just about everybody except for Kelly. So Give Me Dean with my first pick. I think it's a good good pick. I almost went with Dean myself. I think there's the reason to get rid of him. Also the reason to ignore him right now from me which which is like. He's set adrift on Memory. Bliss right now you know. He's is all on his own An Indian is detective dean. Gene Inspector. Kowalski is is off on his own path. Now I that's exactly indeed. It's real baby bear so I don't know I feel like there's reasons to kind of just ignore dean. He doesn't have strong ties to the old Bairo Arrow. He was just targeted by new Iro but that also could just mean. He's a very agreeable person to vote out early. Somebody that seems a little bit physical. I don't know that he's Out Quite as nerve wracking to me as some of the other players in the game on that level but I think the upshot if deemed goes in this to Arab sewed read it will be heartbroken. Read it has really taken in a shine to dean. But the upshot will be got to imagine we'll get our first like Ponderosa Nar episode. Oh maybe first black and white ponderosa video. So I'm here for that okay. All right Third pick overall my second year in the snake draft. I Philip that Jamal is somebody who could be on the outside. I think I think I would look at the guys not to say women's lines but I do feel like that. At least the Lyra women are saying who are the men that are expendable and Jamal is not part part of that and I feel like he lost a very close ally in Jack and I could see him as somebody who is potentially outside of the inner circle goal over at Boakye so I could see Jamal being a person who goes home in the double man. I hope not I was. I was really sad to see Jack go first of all I I really broke my heart but I I was so happy. Once I watched his Ponderosa video where he was just like the sweetest even being on the plan is like I can't wait to welcome everybody. Everybody in with open arms and be like the happy go lucky mayor of Ponderosa. You'll love to see it so I'm really glad that he made the jury. But I was so sad to see Jack and Jamal broken up. Jim Ball is now sands idol. He has just made an idol play. He has made an incorrect idle play publicly and I think if all the vote is fractured and if old Vo Chi feels like they are in a place of such security that they can shed a little bit of the numbers that they they had had in the past. Then maybe Jamal somebody that they would look to get rid of here. They've always been on the same page with him. He was excluded from the molly. Vote at the start of the season. This is all just gone down here at current Liar Oh. I don't think that Jamal is a bad pick. I don't think that I would have picked him but I think that he's of the vote of the original Boakye. Think he'd be very high. If not number one on my west of people. I'd be concerned about moving into the merge this week Okay Josh. Two hundred zero are to to go. I really really like her Olot. Obviously and I've been hyping her since the preseason I think that she is more than decently dope I think she's super dope. But I think also somebody who has been like the high commander of of the crew like I think she's been one of the most one of the most obvious strategic players on the board for better and for worse and I I think that she is certainly worthy of that title. I think that she's somebody who's thinking about the game a lot. I get the sense that a lot of people think that she's thinking about the game which I don't know is a good thing for her or not. I think that she somebody who is talented enough that I could see her going on an immunity run. I can see her building up enough of a coalition that she's able bliss survive dispersed voter to at the start of the merge. But if there's like a major anti Lila rose sentiment I could see missy getting targeted quickly. Because she's very aggressive and maybe Byu don't want to leave her on the board for too long because she's somebody that could be dangerous enough to rally something short stuff up and there are these three x Foci people people were. I guess they're stove. Okay people but you've got. WHO's there Tommy? Dan and Lauren who've now all been on the other end of being somewhat betrayed by missy. It's like for similar reasons that I'm picking Aaron. I think I'm picking Missy here as my second person. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I hope nobody goes home at the merge. Nobody goes home with them. Obviously there's obviously that's not true but I really do love this cast. There's water too but like you know for the most part. I'm really really happy with who were at the merge with and most permutations mutations moving forward I'm going to be pretty pleased with but I'll take missy here just because I think that there is a decent shot. A decently dope shot that she could find herself targeted. Just the number so we're going into this merge seven six with original line of seven original vocab I six original Lyra but the six is also a very fractured six thousand. The four people that voted together and then also dean and Krishma Rush MMA who may either of them might flip even if the four that went to new Boakye stick together either one could end up voting with Voca Foci for one reason or another against people from their original tribes. So maybe the Jamal pick was a bad one. I don't no I mean I just don't I don't have a great enough sense yet and we'll we'll figure it out very quickly into this next episode of just how broken down the original tribal lines lines are because they think on current liar. Oh you do get the sense that people were ready to bake moves. It wasn't like an overwhelming vote against jacker required a very very convoluted move to get him out of there. Dean was down with that. Kelly was obviously down with and even if she didn't cast the vote and nor was in on it as well and Nora apparently hates Jabali which is not the worst thing in the world. Apparently you should feel happy that I ate you. Instead of being indifferent to the logic there is just aimed. But let's go with it so like already already like there's that that that like that valve is loosened. You know so I wonder I wonder what happens with the Greater Boakye gets back together. You you got to imagine a lot of questions about what the Hell happened to Jack Jack. I think just from what. I had examined of the Times that I've gotten to talk to Jack. And what but I got to observe from Camp Life with Jack being there I would imagine that Jack was deeply loved figure out there and I think that people are going to be very surprised that he is the one person who is not showing up at this merge so depending on the fallout from that I think could be could be really interesting. A lot of filibustering. Let me make this. I've been I've really been putting it off because I just don't know where to go and I don't feel great about the pick but I do feel like I should take a an original Tokai. Just even things out man and I'll take Tommy Tommy Tommy popular sentiment is like Tommy doing good time going far. He's doing great. I was like this whole segment of like the like Tommy's trying to throw Dan under the bus but maybe him trying to throw Dan under. The bus is throwing himself under the bus. Because has people now think that he's Shady Shady. She hand So I feel like you know Tom is another one who like an older era of survivor. Maybe CBS somebody who goes around this spot. I don't feel great about the pick. I feel like this is a little bit of a wasted spot but I'm just kind of panicked and I don't really know who to choose. So the Tommy Okay I'm I'm really torn between two people here with the last pick and I guess I I I have to I. I feel maybe a little bit better about one person but I'm GonNa go with you know. I've planted my flag all week that I thought Kelly made a bad move so let me say let me let me. I was really surprised Kelly or Elaine I could see Elaine is Emma Maddalena Lane was where I almost in terms of that it just when I look at the numbers where you have of seven people and I don't know how who invoke is super tight with Elaine. She had that advantage. She played it at the tribal council. You also have dean who is not super loyal to Elaine. And he could be another person. That could flip over to vote. But I I came out so hard against the Kelly move in. I love the execution. Don't get me wrong but in terms of the success of it working. I have my doubts. So I'll say Kelly just to play my flag. Eggen US keep keep consistent with my takes do you. Do you want to each pick. Somebody who we say absolutely not. This person is now going home so that if they we do go home we look like the biggest idiots. Yeah okay all right so do I I because you just went with Kelly. Yes okay who is the safest I and I would be the biggest idiots if they went home I would you would be a moron and Nydia in. His person went home a moron and an idiot if they went home. yes Janet got it. Oh Man I was gonna take Janet like a whole thesis spied this. Yeah I jet. It's it's going to be fine. I think if you're a big Janet fan I feel like there's no reason that Janet is going to be in trouble. Why would anyone get rid of Janet right now? She's spectacular. She seems like she hasn't wronged anybody. There's bigger fish to fry right now and that's probably two to everybody. Foolhardiness Janet will will outrace everybody in the grand scheme of things but I I feel like Janet is she's made it this far Very exciting Janet has has made it this far and I think that she's had she's played with the three Cs and I think she is. She's GonNa core heads are going to prevail in it through that she's going to make it out of the merge urge episode. Okay who else called man. I was still filibustering WHO's guaranteed safe? Okay you know who I think I I feel like we may. They've been they've been positioned as rivals throughout the series thus far. So let's just get them both in the water I'll take buys will. Oh gimme. Elizabeth Elizabeth is safe. Feel like Elizabeth is going to swim away from the merge episode and she's going to be a okay. I think that Lyra could be in danger. Og Oh gee Lyra could endanger. But I think it's kind of plays similarly to Janet not just in the fact that they are both professional swimmers but the fact that they're both kind of straight shooters I don't. I think there is any indication that Elizabeth has been playing any other way than above board and I feel like right now at the merge I like her I like her position Ryan unless she's like somebody to target because they think that she's kind of like a safety person to target. That's what makes me a little bit nervous. But otherwise I feel like she's going to be okay so I would have preferred Janet. But I'll take buys Eliza back. Okay all right. So that's what we're going to be watching out for on Wednesday night Josh before we go to the Wanda and let me just take a moment and thank a sponsor for on this podcast those our friends over at sharper image. Who Bring you the coming? Comfort waited blank Josh. Did you notice this week. What missy said when she was talking about why they needed to vote out? Tommy me this. This is what she said. I why they needed to devote out. 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Blanket Dot Com Promo Code Rob because he can't put a price tag on a great night's sleep go online at Calming Comfort. BLANKET DOT COM. Use Promo Code Rob for your special discount. Today Josh One of the things I had done this week to prepare for my interviews with cast and Sierra was I went back and I started watching some survivor. Ever second chances. Yeah and you imagined how Nora would fit alongside the witches covering. Oh no no. I had so much fun going back. It was starting to get me high. No yes yes I know what. You're saying four. Yes yes oh my God. It's going to be the best. I had a very similar experience. It's last year when I went back and watch survivor. Second chance for the first time I was I was already starting to formulate the gags for the second chance chapter after I feel like a lot of them right themselves. It's going to be a good time when we get to this in ten years in every time seems to stop was on the screen I could not not contain laughter. Dying every Stephen God. That was so great. Do you remember do you remember. I'm doing the ring. Toss Josh I just remember the own goal you get there you go Eleni and wing you need. You can leave happy for the rest of my life. You shut the circle on your you could. It'd be did arrested. Let you finish. That thought. Pick up where we left off. I actually I just remember the own goal. The own-goal the own goal and the gastrointestinal distress. which as I recall was severe cell? Phone the ball defeat now. Can't get the BUM rap. I think Gartner's yeah certain quarters orders of the survivor spear it gets a bum rap. I went back and watched it and at that point like at least somewhat free of reasons see bias. It wasn't the most recent all star season that I had seen at. That point certainly holds up better than thirty four on that much but a lot added a lot of gold in thirty one and I think what we go back and revisit that. I'm very very excited to do that. Launched me on like a little mini. Rewatch I went went from thirty one through go back through game. Changers coincidentally that's where the rewatch style so bump bump lightly prepped for whenever we do start digging into the evolution of strategy again. All Right Josh. Can I kick off the Wanda off with some happy news. We we have a birth in the family of the wand off that Corey be and shelley gave a new arrival. Oh that's amazing. Congratulations Corey be. I would say if we hadn't already wished you. Congratulations because we already wished out. All the happy birthday is earlier in the season that was to people that are great how currently existed they hadn't yes. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yes I'm being very route so I do think that Corby and shelly need to have more children to give out all the hats that they the need to have more hats than at their house. Need to have one for every hat Twenty three kids. Don't stop until that's where you're at now. Congratulations to you both. Fantastic fantastic news birth in Wanda in wombat nation. Yes spectacular news all right. Let's talk about the old business. That's how we always start this off. We need to talk about last week. And what went on in the wand off voting. Of course you could vote all week long. Rapids website accomplish vote Wanda in third place last week with thirteen point nine nine percent of the vote you want off newcomers Tina toner and DJ Derek with the Oopsy Duke C.. Do Psy A little bit of an upset last week I actually thought. Okay No I. I thought that this one was going to take it in second place. Twenty four point twenty. Three percent of the vote went to Alex G. Wow For dad block vote wow survivor. Phillies vary on Alex G. Yes and the the survivor Philadelphia. Yes on your Youtube and of course that Alex g yes that it is coming up this Friday November fifteen th at eight. PM on Youtube. If you want to check out the the survivor philly new episodes will be released every two days. Wow Breakneck competitive with survivor. Filthy survivor driver Philly. But there's there can never be enough. Survivor fills yeah all right josh. So that begs the question who did win the wand off a aw last week who had forty point nine six percent of the vote why I can tell you that. It is a one-off newcomer. ooh named Mike from Massachusetts sister. Nino two point Oh on where have I seen slab wins. He says he's he's got the right there. You go mike from Massachusetts. Yeah it was is because of the bourgeois. Obviously as we enumerated eldest week I absolutely one hundred percent will get you every time all right. So Oh Josh. Let's talk about this past week of or the current episode of survivor and talking about what the wand off artists came up with this week. Of course everything is going to be on our wand off soundcloud playlist available to the patrons Robbins podcast. But here's the host of the one off the late. Great Casey. He Case Rob. It is a pleasure to be back here for this final free merch of the decade Wanda. While I have to say surprise you did not bring any case. Oh considering rob's previous comment about using a weighted blanket like a Burrito that deep enough poll that is a weighted blanket tug this far that is such a deep. Pull that my feet are sticking out of the way to blink at educate in their operated right into it Josh. Let's get to this week's auroral mentions will start with Jordan from Vancouver who had a keen observation about what was is going on in the new Lyra tribe. After the rain I'll suck at fire. It now was Alicia Keith. Nail with a song that might soon be added into the. We didn't start the fire or list. There were just going to have a ban on all fire products. All fire hazards must be removed from the Wanda off to. We're going to be picking elements pretty soon new Wanda role. If they say the word fire in the song we've probably gotten it before for a wand off that includes fire in the verse. There's some exceptions. We know all your heart. Which of course is another element as per captain planet? Next up here is trevor with a a song about the offer for Janet on the island of the idols Janet. Do you WANNA a player show. You could win an advantage. It's called the safety with our really freaking random and Who Played Jim Chance? I self run you lose you it gets you more. TV needs no okay. Not Now was song from curse Alex Bell From this movie froze on warriors. I know I was GONNA say anything other that I thought it was beautiful. The beautiful beautiful. I love how you love. Pick a rock out of the bag. Josh says one of your favorites big fan of pick Iraq out of a bag in challenge for more challenges should just be pickle rock out of back. It's a fierce. Take that I will did not submit Redknapp. The NAP of and this one feels yes always always has that Arnold Palmer tree great right on your down hot hot. Winter's Day Josh next up. Here's Jason Lee with a song about the person who put together this week. The unlikely pair. Hey I know your ex girlfriend no way no school at war to pay rex girlfriend. Hey team deal. Let's form an alliance no way. No way it's gotta be a secret. Hey Hey dean dean. Has I know your ex girlfriend detective or so good investigations. Does you could have mug. Great collaboration everybody else on Lyra once. You've gone to bird causing me so much frustration. Shit Oh my God I just had some inspiration. I'll give you can play it. They're like Mike. This will be so easy flow. Vote for a while. He should play the expires. The restaurant Fred no way no no. I don't mean Chelsea girlfriend how was from artists. Averill Levinas as good well done Josh. Our final arable. Mention is something that we don't normally normally do. We don't normally traffic in conspiracy theories here in no wiggle room. No typically not you save that also oh for renounce your mind great Antonio in the sky but Robin from Rochester is here and she's got a conspiracy very about this week's most recently voted off castaway not to go into wild conjecture but focal your seatbelts. Things are about to get an eared inspiration. I couldn't put my finger on it in the pre-game something thing about Jackie deja-vu but not the same. His personality familiar at all sir. Something didn't seem quite right. Ways San Rondo. Sookie Matt in two thousand thousand fourteen. A pair of brothers with long hair grease starts screens some side if drew was his brother. Alec wouldn't be disrespectful. Froze cocky rude. ooh My Gosh Fan Mazda taken it upon themselves to change Josh someone back in time. And they stole the Little Alec Babble Way. I know a sound deranged pretty strange. But but you've talked time travel in the past so bring it anyway really do need help Christie alter term. That was kidnapped as a baby right so he could talk. He said sorry to learn to south. I Kelly starts a fire bullied. APPLEBEE's a jury any way. Wow now that was from the crew panic at the disco wrong the disco Yeah do you buy that that that Jack is actually no. He's actually Alex Third Christie brother. Well well my understanding of the theory as it was projected upon us via Song Robin from Rochester from Robin from Rochester. Her is that the survivor casting team went back in time and plucked Alec Christie from when he was a baby to take him when he was raised different different way a different dimension. Yeah so so. They worked out better I think just so he was more respectful of of of people to do that like try to learn to be better stuff. Yeah I think I'm in your in Excel. I didn't really see the resemblance. We'll have to go back in this. Scott I'm just GONNA go ahead and say I'm into it. I feel it and I like it at. I don't see any reason why we shouldn't sign on for the theory of I'll say that I'm also also currently making like the Ala Christie jury face right now because I'm a little shocked by this news jobs on the DOORKNOB. How sorry Jeremy? We'll move onto the top five now. Not Christie brothers are us. It's US it's us. It's always been Josh. Were ready for the top. Five songs and combat's nation to get things started. Here's the pairing of Love Arid Robertson and Jordan Kayla. Ish Dr I talking about. Kelly's move on. I I just had to use use this powers of detection have disconnection into this. We will vote check out. No one crazy strategy is hazy. But let's fool son gays in this booth. Jack do get I do out Kenley Pool in Norfolk blindside skills are tribal council freaking bona fide. Teach at Harvard or warden. She's was satisfied then. Tom Laid off at Tim. Horton's be idols of proud. She's mastered the art of persuasion. Speaking out shaking up with carbonation megamall all the check of foolish. But who am I to judge this was written by Dece coolish. Yes the. The newer works of the artist. Kanye West Nail The tiny sounds ugly. Sell all right at least according to Aaron Robertson and De Schoolers some like digital Kazoo next up there are are some listeners that we're not thrilled that Jack was going to be a member of the jury but Adam B and Craig L. are not some of those people own they a bar Vena Go ahead That was from the Eagles Rock Montana home of survivor contestant Randy Bailey during the time of survivor much for the Casey that was that was really. I mean come on. You're trying what are you paying you for pay. We're paying Josh. It's rude to ask me that on the air. I'm not talking about the direction of the money. The resources are you kidding me. Jerry podcast what do you need money. Four four just like you. Maybe I'm being harsh Josh. Josh Layoff Casey Kasem. Come on. Let's go staff to make an after living afterall as well sorry Josh even though Oh you said I don't bring much value to the podcast. Not exactly what I said. I'm GonNa keep going with the number three song and wombats nation put together by the duo of Michael Clark and Laura. Ed All about of a former fling one of the great detective co Alcee ex girl for show we Good Canada's the judge at least the Forgot about that denies he we. That was the artist Boston. Robin wouldn't that song if I mean deans ex girlfriend. I think I'd be like all over twitter of like I did that I did. This was me this week. I put this together. This was Bradley Clyde ex girlfriend at the very honest the same that she was so vocal. I feel like that Kelly's friend flesh. Deans ex girlfriend is keeping a low profile. It's funny because clijsters girlfriend also works really well as a substitute lyric for a call. Your girlfriend the pair. Also I think my issue with the line about Having more friends than NBC did in in the One thousand nine hundred. This is the only single brands bar. Yeah I mean more than six seventh friend right. Justice factoring gunther into the equation now. Nobody was his friend Josh. The number four song wombats nation nation comes to us by familiar duo with a new member of the trio. Dave from Ohio. With if becky and Taylor talking about Janet's retured from the island of the idols stomach in doing flipflops. Everything's Coin Up. There might froze song for the island of the idol has put a target on people's backs and I did not want onto happen to me. I'm sitting in a good spot. Man Huge target on your back. It started onto the island of something she fears. She's leaving beat her face covered in tears when she gets this. Your Zia Thuan. His Queen Next Sandra on the show a gap from Boston with. It'll be on the safe but she don't meet she such a smart lady. She says it hurts. Rachi establish some steel establish some more revealing she made with amazing brand. Abso- There tells me the longevity the end game. She's got the makings of a winner. Wow that was the great will wall Smith. Yeah that's funny mental picture. I was getting into it with a friend of mine recently. Who who swore swore up and down straight face simply fully full heartedly believes without question this is a take that he has and he will not back down from it and will not hear any reason or arguments to the contrary that will Smith is indisputably beautifully the greatest rapper of all time? This was my friends tate. I would like it if it's possible to add a question to the poll this week. The census yes. Yes yes yes or no. Yeah it is. Will Smith the greatest rapper of all time. Yes or no get official. Wombat data let me let me add some fuel to this. Because I think and you can make the case that he that he is because he makes it sound so easy. Because if if you're not will smith you could. It could turn out like you are attracted to tell you this trust me assured you section took place that you need the two men in Ooh I is this. Is this another show that you have that so quickly on stand by. What does that joke missing shortly after the US? So it's GonNa say there is no edit time that happened as quickly league in the actual playing of events as it happened as you listened to it. There was stopping song right now. There's no stopping down. You just played it all right so I'm out now. Everyone else is in. That was mesmerizing. All right don't need for the question will. Smith is obviously the greatest rapper of all time but josh back to content that caters to use specifically. Who is last week's winner of the wand of going for the the to win a row here is Mike from Massachusetts talking about the lesson taught on the island of the idols? Hey Jan answered with violence Sandra. She's she's scared. It's Sir calculate risk me where a big impediment comes rock. Music does waving the next talk to strangers. The man came. They were the worst of my entire life. That was the duct Taylor stocker well. I really amazingly easingly outlook at Christie's mentioned twice in the Wanda off amazing. And you know shout out to Rick Evans who was such a great sport. It's important come on so it also this week a while before it even came up. Yes took that you you ask for things and the wand off artists deliver Josh. It's true it's true except that I've asked for one more glycerine and that didn't come but the rain dried up. Yes yes still still time to pluck the fruit from that low hanging Bush. All right I don't know I don't think it is alright. Josh Winkler with that of course that we could not do the wand off without the help of the great randy new poll who uploads all of your submissions Shins Wanda off Soundcloud playlist available to patrons rob as a pod. Gas Or without the help of Jason Curtis Rivera who puts together all of the music videos. Josh even though you said I shouldn't get paid further Wanda off. I will see you next time. Keep your feet on the ground and keep your hands on the table book. Screw up everything. Josh Winkler is doing all right. Don't feuding we had a couple look good weeks with him and now you set them off. This isn't GonNa go great. I don't feud well you start with me and really earning one of your hats. Yeah Yeah but then I move is really just ignore it. Yeah freeze them comfortable. Just move on. I go deep into like my Miami hidey-hole and just pretend it doesn't exist. It was like Oh if I ignore it for long enough then. It'll go away with a lot of things. I might that with a lot of things a lot of things and it's something that he should get paid. I think maybe he should be making money. Fame you like seems like the more apt these CASO unlimited case. So that's fine. That would be a lot of cases. All Right Josh. I know you're so busy with everything that you're doing not just survivor. But what else do you have going on right now. It's a lot. Lots of stuff. Watchmen were four. Weeks into watchmen weeks in all right. The next two episodes from your for you right. Now Eh watchmen is underway on. Hbo My coverage is underway at T. H. R.. Dot Com slash watchmen and that includes weekly podcast coverage over at the series. Area's regular podcast on the Hollywood reporter with myself in Antonio Massaro breaking down each. And every week of watchmen in copious amounts of detail L. Antonio and I are also podcasting about Mister robot. We have our next episode of the PODCAST. Coming your way later this week recording a little later than usual so plenty plenty of time to get feedback in. If you've got questions about this final season of Mister robot. Now's the time special feedback. Show is how we're going to handle this one Jessica Lisa and I will be recording. Are Walking dead podcast on Tuesday night so we are six episodes in rob people are excited. Okay well I run into a problem. Run through roadblock an issue yes like when he gin put up those roadblocks for the day. I don't have AMC right now. I changed my cable. A they see if somebody really wants me to call I need I need a log in and for somebody WHO's AMC to watch walking dead somebody Hook or rob on. Though I just I don't I don't have it on my fourth quarter and that you no you can't buy as cer by the season on itunes or something but that's not. Yeah but why would you do that. GotTa gotTa be another way. There will be another way way. I'm just saying I need help. Walk could right now walking dead while they now they're they're keeping me from it they're keeping you from it the walking dead's good right now. So you you out there have. AMC access you're watching walking somebody'll help me. Somebody told me Jackson I R- podcasting push recaps very very fun stuff. So that's GonNa Record on Tuesday night and then Mike Bloom and I we have down the hatch continuing. We are up to the Herald. Paranoid flashback special literally. It's called called special starring. Harold Perrineau as Michael Dawson. We're going to finally find out more about walt and I find out more about wall. I mean just a little bit of information information that they don't really ever fully pay off in any kind of huge way but that hasn't been the leader of that. Walt is going to be seven feet tall. Yeah he's literally. It really becomes a huge gigantic. You Yes yes yes. Yeah so. That's all happening on poster recaps goalless subscribed already tons of podcasting happening over there. All Right Josh great job once again I also I would love to say Happy Veterans Day to all of our veterans the veterans that are listening to the podcast gas and of course that I hear from people from time to time who are serving or have served and listen to the podcast and sounded really. Appreciate that and thank you for your service to present all of our veterans that are listening to the show and Joshua. We'll be back next time. Absolutely can't wait all right. Let's let's do a little bit of Twi- sh- stockham bow take so we can smartest sworn Yeah that's the sweet elite sound of will from America singing the theme song to this week in survivor and the man who joins me every week ached talk about everything going on this week in survivor. History Quiz please. Welcome back at the Great Jordan Georgian in. How're you doing well? J just jets jets Finally got our second win of the season. There I was I actually at the game with the greatest winokur who is a big fan of Joke answers for Choice Day. Okay all right so Jordan. We're very lucky this week because we are joined by a woman who actually join me for a podcast with the affirmation Akiva winokur this week and some are saying. It was the best podcasts. They ever listened to here. She is from the Love Island. Wrap up brother candidates six and more course Kirsten mcinnis Curson how are you. I'm good rob. How are you also the Riverdale recap over on Hausky casts? That's a that's right. You have to say it okay but this isn't Caskey cast but we're going to be testing you on the facts here today accepted now. I'm doing the tax. It almost almost made that work is it. Why is it cow ski? If it's both of you how come your name doesn't get in there. That's were going okay. Let's let's sixty. We were hemorrhaging listeners. All right we gotta stick. Let's stick with survivor for for a minute for one minute at least earliest okay. All right now. That's impossible. Kirsten happy to have you here with us. So the barrier to getting here with us was that you said Hey I would do do the podcast. But I'm anti quiz so we will have a pinch wizar- joining us later on in the show for this week and cyber history quiz exactly. Yeah so so I think Jordan Kayla's actually is the first person who saw any potential in me as a podcast or other than you. He messaged me originally about this weekend survivor. History Quiz Many moons ago a according to my facebook messenger five days after I was not voted into big brother to ask me onto the quiz so mike while the iron is hot exactly. I'd only done. I think to podcasts at that time and now here I am and this is not even only podcast recording today so Jordan. Really Liane saw that coming okay. Nice Job Jordan or as a teacher I always like to be an inspiration to people and Carson. I am happy that I it can be the person who started off your take. No credit for regular rock but Kirsten you were part part of the hot takeoff which has been received very well. Very rare to have back rene episodes that have received well. So congratulations and thank you for were you or Helping to make that possible. You're welcome. I was a lot of work. But thank you for including me. Because I don't think I've ever had more fun recording a podcast resonated on that one. I was giggles central for everybody involved and I. Yeah I think you guys are GonNa have a hard time coming up with the third third one after the master napper. Okay all right. So since we're mentioning hot takes so cursed in an openness to Jordan's and put all the pressure on you do we have any hot takes about survivor. Thirty nine in terms of survivor heartaches so harks anywhere to go until the definition of a hot take and all that but I I would say that my my strongest take about this season is that it is very fun to watch the episodes But then trying trying to think about it outside of them is very complicated annoying. So you're talking about the game play. Yeah it's just like every episode when I'm watching I'm enjoying it but then I find that I have a hard time getting into the mode of thinking about it in between where it's it's just so for not egg and which is fine but then it's confusing and hard to predict Jordan. Early hot takes about the season. I would say my hardest take right now and it's this Kelly's move. Ah Give di in the idol and get Jack Out of the game has been spoken about on a Lotta podcast this week and I think everyone agrees that it was very exciting and it was great tv it may have been a little bit shortsighted my heartache is. I think it was actually a really good move. Okay Good Kirsten thumbs up or thumbs down on Kelly's move Well it was incredible and masterfully. Done But I just worry that at this point in the game that things are not going to work out as well for her like. It's basically made from the idea of well. If this idol two gene and save him he'll oh me something and I think we've we've seen over the years that that's not necessarily the case people don't really. Oh you things in and these shows and I think it might come back to bite her. Okay so let me hear Dece ghoulish that. I haven't heard anybody really say that. They love it in terms terms of moving forward so make the case so I do understand. It's risky and I do understand that. If I were to say to tell people that she was the one who gave him the I could come back to bite her in the butt. But I don't think that's going to happen in every the reason. I don't think that is going to happen. who was dean going to? I mean He. Clearly the people the vote on his tribe now wanted him out. They all voted for him. And is he going to go back to his old era team members who he wasn't doesn't really closely aligned with. I don't think so so I think that in his mind his closest ally in the game right now is Kelly who just saved us and I have a hard time seeing him turning owning around on her. I mean I think maybe if we go further down the road and it's a situation where maybe he sees a path to the end without Kelly. I could see him playing something Off where he may be tells people that she was the one who gave them the idle at this point but at that point they might be a little bit too late and it might not matter so I think that actually Kelly might be in the clear and I understand that Jack did say in his exit interview that he was maybe a little bit skeptical of Kellyanne. She thought maybe she had something to do with him. I'm going out of the game but if no one else feels that way. I mean he's gone. He can't tell people that until you know we get to the Elliott at the end. And he's he's on the jury obviously but I I. I really think that it's the kind of thing where Kelly now is potentially part of a very strong alliance with some of her old vocab tribe members like Janet. She's going to be able to link up with Tommy and war and now that they're going to merge and she now has deemed potentially in her back pocket if she ever did need to turn on one of our allies it ever got to the point where it's just her alliance left plus a couple stragglers. She can use him as a number so I I really liked the move Kelly. I don't think it's necessarily just a case of big move. I I think it's something that could help long term in the game not not just short-term Kirsten is Jordan convincing you at all I mean I hope he's right because I love Kelly early but I just I think there's also the factor to consider which could comeback like Kelly's the one was talking about you know having an alternate vote and I don't know that we can trust or not to say anything when she'll straight up at tribal council say well. Yeah but I was thinking about this thing You know and she's just such a wild card. Hi She is a wild card and I just wonder so much about the You know the Janet's in the malls asking a lot of pointed questions about how did this all come together. And maybe Kelly Not Kelly ordine or not having all the answers that are going to keep everybody's like Oh. I guess the that was weird at the united idle. All right. So let's let's not that well on it too much. Jamal was also now someone who played an idol. And like you know if anyone asked S. two mall where he got his his idol he may end up saying you know. I found it on the beach so there are people in the game who know that there aren't just idols at the island of the idols. And I also I think the fact that you break up Jamal and Jack get Jamal flushes idol. That was a very very tight pair in the game. Who might be able to pull in some of these these free agents who were left and and now it's just Jamal on his own without an idol? So I think it really clearly weakens him. Okay it's been a fun week for survivor talk between some the people defending the move. Everybody agreeing it was great theater and I really of course Kelly making the move. I don't want to be the a person to always be like you know because I get on Stephen. Sometimes he's always like Oh. That movie was bad. That movie was bad so I don't WanNa be no. Oh Fun Rob. But I feel like that it's a survivor is often not these flashy moves that happen at least in the middle of the game. I feel like that more towards the end is when you WanNa make these kind of moves. Kirsten Yeah I definitely agree on that. But it's very exciting that we have players willing to make these moves and it does make great television so people should definitely continue with these crazy maneuvers and especially people like Kelly. I Love Kelly so much and once the Times Stephen and I were both very famously. Wrong about Tony's Lakos and all the moves that he was making so Really it comes down to what we know about Janet a little bit and and Kirsten that I thought that hasn't gotten a ton of attention. So the Janet had very curious move when she came back from the island of the idols calls that she was coming back on the boat and saw her tribe and then pulled a pseudo. Oh Michaela with her tribe when she was returning to the beach about this today and Nora has city oh well Jannine. China's showed us that she didn't have an idol when she came when she came back but she's such a free spirit. I've never I've never seen somebody uh-huh is that a move to disarm. Everybody had an idol. Well I think what we're seeing is. Nudity is beginning to play increasingly more and more a role in showing that. You don't have any idols. Bills are advantages so janice just right on on board with that. I also I loved in that Nora quote. She's like she's a free woman and a Free Spirit right and she likes to be naked. Apparently it was like on. This is news. Yeah failing show the idol show us the idol and she's like I got nothin often forehand and apparently that words like she didn't have to cry on the beach like Kelly Dead Chris. My favorite part about that is after after. She flashed everybody. The tribe was going nuts but then she apologizes to the boat driver. She's like a sorry driver man. If you're ready for that he's lucky didn't crash the boat. I honestly he really is. I really liked also on the the boatman originally came out Jamal's like now we got a little boatman like let's see what little boatman has to Jordan. Jack is also very upset to go to the island of the idol. She was crying very emotional national. Yeah I mean I think anything that sets you. Apart from other members on the tribe can be scary. But she's really put herself in a good position where I think even if she had even if she decided to play the game and had gotten something and maybe shared some of her tribe members. I think she would've been fine. But I understand the kind of visceral reaction like I am going to be set apart. I'm GonNa be away from my tribe for a little while anything can happen in that short period of time but I think he's playing such a social and very ah strategic game as well and I was. I agree with with Boston. Robinson her that she made the right move not to take the What are they calling it? The A a safety without power which is stupid name. Yeah I think I understand the the reaction but I think that Janet would have would've been fine coming back and just going going back to our allies and having been away from them. I think she's an in a good spot. Yeah the safety without power advantage. That's a mouthful to say the very least. Please a a voicemail that I didn't get to with Sierra but maybe we could answer this question this is from one of our listeners Zack Arab Hey Sierra era. It's back from Georgia. I was watching the TV this week. And I saw Janet be given the opportunity to compete for a safety without power advantage. I just had a little bit. These people make television for a living. How are they so bad at naming things safety without power that's terrible that's cut catchier punchy it all wanna call it something like the peace out advantage where you just use it to travel council or they could honor like Jonathan Penner and call call it the advantage or something like that you guys? I don't know hope like some kind of advantage name Rehab because locked the votes not great either block the vote and safety without power. Give them better names. cleese thank you okay. Kirsten can you help us. rebrand the safety without out power advantage. I just I feel like after the peace out more is there. That's the pinnacle of naming advantages. The incredible tenors naming things on the show. I think we could get interesting. Thank spot what A. What about the screen Gaz? I'm going home advantage. Yeah Love Line. Do you think it's possible that Janet didn't take it because when you you are including a without without power in the name of the powerful safety without power like award I want any advantage that's called blank without power. Yeah it definitely has kind of that neutered sound to it. I also really liked during this when in Boston. Rob is like wow Janet. You really understood this lesson on calculated risk and it's like obviously he was preaching about calculated risk to a woman who already understands cost spend analysis. So it's like I don't think she learned it. She just knows she's in a good spot and already has that skill set. Well I like that. She laid out the whole Reason about as you said like well if I did this then I would lose the trust of my allies. If I had to use it I'm not GonNa do it and then rob is like why again I think it would make me a target after after are usually like the. That's WANNA know why I'm smiling like that. She was like made it pretty clear why she she wasn't taking it in. The first place guy was definitely very clear. And the other thing is that shouldn't rather have tried to sweeten the deal there to try and get him to take. I feel like at every other. Someone's like oh no they're like what about this and then immediately make it like a hundred times easier or the advantage more powerful but this time she said no and he's like can you pass the lesson that was it and it just a little strange compared to some of the other ion excursions to suggestions have said I want safety with if power. which is I guess? Basically just handle Yeah I mean maybe she cut out like I wanna I wanna I wanNA cast my vote so i WanNa have power and then I just want to leave so I can't be voted out so she's just not there when the votes are red but she still gets a guest vote or allies are habit. Yeah I don't know what was on the table with this one but maybe she just was supposed to turn down the offer the lesson and then she didn't get anything was she got the lesson. Oh my God already had it. But she didn't get watermelon. Once you made the right decision. They should have given her some food. Yes she got host your love production giving them food To you oh you don't like you're being you're are being norris the only person that got it and it seems like blatant favorite Yeah I don't know if maybe that was going to be part of the lesson and Nora just like accepted it. So fast. Up The watermelon. In some way Rosen just in terms of the the new name. What do you think like a kind of like a ghosting? ghosting idol. Like I'm going to disappear and then you're not going to hear from me but I feel like what's it called. Something goes but then like POPs back up in your life because she's GonNa be at the next tribal council so I it's not like a full ghost uh-huh yeah it's it's a classic half Ghost Africa. We'll give you a half ghost advantage spooky. It's also but like it's also normally ghosting. Because she would stand up and be like guys I gotta go. I'm so it's like she's she basically just playing with our emotions. I'm leaving. No I'm back like I hate. You know I love you. It's very confusing Yeah so maybe she should have and been like what. If I don't have to go to any of the tribal councils but then I get to I get to be in the final three and they call it the Chris Underwood advantage they go. Hey that is the best example of calculated risk Dece. Okay Yeah Underwood the great last six survivor. I have to take him. Okay let me get. Let me get you to weigh way in on another love slight conspiracy theory from our listeners over another conspiracy theory at least a mystery this comes to us from Darla in Pennsylvania Abraham Sierra this is Darla from Pennsylvania. Did you happen to notice that Kelly wrote a small a in. Dean's name when she voted. Friends Fran at tribal some the caught my eye. I don't know alrighty stay crushing it okay. So thank you Darla so Kirsten I went back and I looked at this and when Kelly votes for Dean she writes Capital D. Capital E. Lower case case a capital and is there any significance to why she might be voting that way now what style title of little a is it. Is it like the one delay. What kind of a is I feel like this comedian something but it depends on exactly what it looked like? I should have looked yes so it was just a small a is it possible personal. That could be some code. Where he's like? Well how do I know so what you're GONNA do well. I'll vote when I vote for you. I'll put a small a in there. But why would he be obsessed with if she was gonNA vote for him or not. Yeah I feel like it. It could be something where she's like. Yes I'm I'm going to vote for you but I'm GonNa put in this special signal. It could be that. Maybe she doesn't like her upper case a why would why would he be like. Hey how do I know. You're going to vote for me. Tribal Council because detective Dina's on the case he's going to look at all. The clues could also be that. That's maybe not how she normally rights and she's trying to maybe frame Nora. WHAT DOES NORA like all caps in one len lower case? I don't know it could be the thing where they're practicing. How they write the alphabet out and the Kelly's like oh I only raise or could be achieved? Notice doesn't like her as Salangi's trying to copy it but if if she's trying to make it seem like she didn't vote for Dean gene than everyone. Assume that you voted for Jack and that looks even worse for her So I I kind of think maybe maybe it goes back to her personal connection Chen with Dean where they where she knows his ex girlfriend. Maybe it's some sort of like inside joke from their town or something. I don't know maybe ex girlfriend's name is like denise and she wanted to do really highlights t. e. n.. For shout out Denise bourgeoning farther and farther away has a theory if there are any detective qualities out there that could crack the case of I can we. Can this be serial season four next. What's the next season? I think it would be four if they did anymore but It would be a great a great premise for the season. If they could somehow investigate why why did Kelly in in the midst of all of these mackin nations. Why would she take the time to write simply one letter? In a different way. -tective Dean could crack any case except this one. Why line take all the trouble? The right three letters capital one the very first letter in the alphabet smaller. The thing is we know the dean will read into everything. And he'll say I know I didn't do it for All right so all interesting theories on a serious note out Kirsten I would love to get your take on the conversation that came out of this trouble council about whether or are not people survivor. Players should presuppose. There are women's alliances. And how do they go about talking about women's alliances on the show. Well I think like Kelly made a great point of. We don't necessarily really talk about men's alliances that much in the same way there somehow just this fear her surrounding women's alliances and I'm not sure if that comes down to like a societal thing where it's like Oh there's all these you know women banding together in taking over or or if it is Like also discussed if it's kind of taking away the the unique human element at I found it really interesting in strange but it's also like I personally don't feel like we live in a world yet where we can be like. Oh Yeah we're JUST NOT GONNA consider gender at all because it does play into things unlike especially how after having that really great discussion of microaggressions with a giant Jamal. God was that only last week doing and I feel like there are those same kinds of things towards women and we hear all the time about how being on survivor kind of puts a woman back into more of a traditional all role. So I think it's it's a very. It's a complex issue and the conversation around it also needs to be complex. I thought it was really interesting seeing Janice perspective because you know Janet is obviously older than the other women on the cast and her experience is a little bit different. Like I'm sure that She has a lot more experience than having to work a specific way to be successful with men and I think that that came out a lot in her her points. It was just. It's a complicated issue. And I'm glad that they gave it a little bit of time to to breathe but I feel like there's there's more to it something that I noticed was that Kellyanne Janet and I think the result another by remember exactly who they wouldn't make like a long in point. That was very good and only what apologize for too long or Kelly said. Sorry I care about this guy and that to me just kind of put a point on it like we do still have have kind of a long way to go because you don't really see the men apologizing for making a point at tribal council. Yeah you don't need to undercut it or a hash tag. Sorry not sorry yeah exactly sorry not sorry yeah alright Jordan you got that okay all right ready to talk about some social media from this week. I believe a he collected by Alex Rabin who I ran into on the transit. Oh yes how is he doing well. He's the giants fans inaugurate. Okay I've run into Al's ultra at so many different sporting events mainly Yankee Games but this was the first time after a jets giants game. Okay all right keep us posted any any any place I think every every now and when we run into each other we'll just like tweet out a picture all right let's say here. What Jacob Sager Leaguer Weinstein has to say tweets daily tweet thought Really was a great confessional. I really did enjoy how that was presented as well Carson. Yeah that was really great. I almost wish it had a little bit the leg. Big Brother editing where they would do like some sort of visual effect as well by it was. It was incredible the Big Brother version of that would be like. Oh my God i I just had this moment of inspiration like cut to like Kelly. The driver spoken. That's like the editing editing trick they do of anybody says they're gonNa do something good and then immediately like a thing blows up in their face. Yeah it's like okay guys. I'm doing really well in this complex. Okay all right. I'm losing Jordan with the big brother. Talk on him okay. All right So Kirsten did you notice that Queen. Sandra had some wraps on her arms this week. Yes the she didn't get to pull Janet in for a hug like she normally does with everyone and I was very worried about her Yeah Sandra explained on twitter that I wasn't allowed to hug at carbon thirty nine. I had an allergic reaction from some branches. I removed while building holding the shelter and ended up with horrible. Pus filled blisters. My arms were burning swollen and feverish. The doctors change my bandages every single day. For more than a week I get. Why are they having bussing Robbins? Sandra live and the elements. They're not contestants. They're like just the small part of the show where people come to visit them every once in a while. Why can't they live either ponderosa or in like a in a room I get? It's it's survivor. But they're not really they're not playing survivor. Why can't they be like in a room with good food comfortable bed and like every every couple of days they go out to the island of the idols and people on what what I understand? I believe the answer to that question again. And this is what what is what is Canon is think they wanted to. I think that that's what what the answer is. Is your impression also. Yeah I feel like I've seen that out in The ether I. It's just such a strange thing but doug they are at least laid aren't linked living off of lake meager rations of rice. They solve a little bit of energy and have some food sued. Did you see the secrecy in were Boston. Rob Didn't want to like give her a fest bomb. He didn't want to touch her hands a pulled. Aaron talking about it where he's like like what like what's going on with you. How your hands? And then they like talk about it and then she goes to like give them a fist so I purposely didn't watch this video because I heard it was really gross but I will play. Let me let me let me play a little bit of it and then let's listen. But but this right here I was like this is killing me. I'm forty four and in Fiji's taken a toll along with twenty five. That's for sure the hanging. Yeah I don't know vis contagious. Yeah maybe we need to get Dan over there sleeping to Sandra. Maybe that's how we get them to back off. Yeah Well Kevin. He'll disinfect like the rest of the tribe when he starts touching them. You're worse yes I feel like if he wasn't going to get the message from when he was talked about it literally early in the first three days. I don't know that someone talking to him about is going to make him understand boundaries. That's just not something he's got. What doesn't seem like it? Do you have any thoughts on what needs to happen with the situation. Will he needs to listen and I need to back off like it's just like it's not just like a one time thing where he was mistaken and then someone talked to him and he was like oh I see the era of my ways. It seems like he has a pattern of inappropriate behavior happening out there and like I'm sure he doesn't mean anything by it but if you're making the people around and you uncomfortable you gotTa Stop Right in a game in a social game. We're trying to win a million dollars like you feel like oh I got to be able to pick up not not even on on hints but if people are like our like hey this. Is You know the uncomfortable. You would think that we could do. We could do better with that town. Yeah you'd you'd think they'd be like hyper-sensitive of the effects of everything that you're doing on the people who are out of jail and and maybe if something's not working great for you like when you're I I guess cuddling with people and they don't WanNa cut it all. You'd think that you'd be like Oh. Hey People are reclaiming my touch. Maybe I should stop touching the All right so this week at Kelly underscore Kim said literally. My heart is beating so fast watching this and I know what happens hashtags tags survivor. So there was that tense. Big Moment for her. I feel like when you relive those moments. Sir You'RE GONNA you're gonNA have reaction okay. Chelsea Walker said Jack was robbed of a spot on the pre merge shrimp yeah a fun adventure so who is this pre merge crew. If we're going to just do the frail Mary Fan Fiction Real quick so it was just didn't sell it was Ronnie then Molly Chelsea Jason. Jason and Vince those pretty crew. That's yeah that seems like a fun a crew however I mean if you go on survivor and obviously the the goal is always to to win. But I think he'd rather be on on the jury even if you don't make the merge then on the on the trip should I think you want like a fun group have to go on the trip and might trip was myself the late great rudy. Bosch Richard Hatch in an Tina and it wasn't exactly exactly a party crew. Kirsten really shown here that. Believe it or not the biggest. The biggest drinker that was there with me was rudy. Probably to deal with you all day. The Dow was the worst part was talking around. It is and I hope I never find out. I mean you said that you were going specifically out of your way to needle him. When and I love that he enjoyed I was? I wasn't making fun. How can send like Easson with you guys the well that that I? It was an issue with the Richard Ensue of it. All odds they could not they could not be in the same place so they ended it up splitting up our group where she actually ended up doing her own thing and then and Richard ended up leaving also so they could have sent her. It would have been I would love to do around. Yeah I feel like I'm wondering how planned out who was going with on that one. That's a Ah yes. An interesting result came out right and then also it was that we were sort of. You know well known people who were or they felt like there was more danger of detection with the bigger group of you know because they take they take you out and stuff like that so to have a of some really famous people like rich and Rudy and Tina and then also to to add more famous people like Ethan Jerry and in Colby then they felt like the danger of detection was starting to get very high so they split up into smaller groups which also we get your big big time. Huge huge celebrity big big survivor going out of his way to be like there was famous people and not listening himself because I think he he knows that he's about to get roasted survivor survivor hall of Famer. He's up there. No I think I'm pretty incognito. I will say that there was like two or three times that I got recognized in Argentina Argentina but I am not like a I think I'm pretty incognito out in public even at the height of my survivor popularity. I wasn't being harassed on the streets the way that I'm sure people like Richard Hatch and Rudy and Tina and Ethan Kobe. Jerry were and so you know you you don't stand out not incognito as and you like your teammates yeah I have to be at a like like sanctioned survivor events for people to say is that Jason. Jason Linden's here. I thought he looked like fish back. He acts like fish back. It looks more like Robin. I think he sounds like the voice. Sounds like a lot lakers I feel like he looks like Mr Sheffield from the nanny book. I haven't I've been saying this entire seasons. Oh Kirsten your favorite rick. Devon's tweeted this week. He was shown depicted losing saying in the final four fire making challenge. He tweeted a picture he wrote back in here. They're showing my season. Oh wait a second gin and a picture of him with the Hashtag Awkward. At least he has a good sense of humor about it. Yeah that could it'd be like at least you didn't let it like emotionally devastated. I'm not really ruined the know it all those in state. I'm yeah that's right so Aurora tweet it out. She said Sandra Sandra looking like the new rocky hashtag survivor thirty nine. Fema do they rocky from survivor. Fiji Jordan yes. It was definitely referring to Iraqi from survivor survivor. Fiji because everyone with with great detail remembers the pre merger that's MTO s of it so she also tweet. Aurora about a random centipede makes an appearance. I call him Fred Hashtag survivor. Thirty nine curse. Did you. Spot the giant worm. That was on Jack's head I know I didn't and I'm really glad I didn't because I would have had to turn off my TV. Because I was traumatizing for for me is that the kiss of death is that like a survivor curse where they don't really talk about the island. God's too much where. Oh you've upset the gods and you get voted out but like if a giant insect crawls on you at a tribal council is that typically omit going home I mean I guess we go. All the way. Back to season is in one way or the survivor. God's put out the torch of the person who was getting voted out before it actually happened. So maybe the the worm on or centipede or whatever. It was on on Jackson. Buff was the new manifestation of survivor. God's telling us who's going home but I I didn't catch it on my first. Viewing I saw some pictures actors on twitter afterwards and then obviously since I knew about it. I cited crawling around in in my second doing and I. I'm surprised it feels like even though he had the buffed between the the worm and himself it's thinking thank you. Yeah Yeah it's on around has however many you just like on around your head hundred Gandara I know maybe it was a little bit centimeter of millipedes. One hundred feet and no appeal is more. Yeah I don't know we know if we have an entomologist out that knows thousand right. I think I diagnosed diagnosed what the bug was. So smeal is two thousand and Spanish. Yeah Yes yes okay. Yeah I feel like maybe he just had had so many worms crawling on a money to notice anymore. No now he's like a westworld robot If it's a worm so maybe if it were a worm he wouldn't feel it but if it were sent to Peter militate he would okay if it was a little snake you'd feel and they don't have any feet were basically I mean another. They're not reptiles but they are sort of like little snakes are they. Animals animals. Fine the great. ADAM KLEIN LINE tweeted all caps. Survivor is the best show on television. That was one of the most amazing easing hours of TV. I've ever seen real raw powerful a fitting tribute to the life of Rudy Bosch. Who helped start these conversations? -tations twenty years ago. So Adam Klein give him standing ovations survivor this week. I felt like he was right here with Hannah. FELLOW-FINALISTS WITH ADAM millennials next boy Jordan. I feel like that survivor. Really misted. Did they almost had it with millennials verses boomers. They get what they get genetics involved with that I mean they the I don't know why they felt like they had to like manufacturer. This this war between the two generations I think usually are at least on a similar a page but yeah the boomers millennials. That would be enormous. Maybe that's going to be a season. Forty one yeah. boomers versus Jen's e is coming versus Gen Z.. Okay well also so really really young and then really the older casting so the Gen Z.. Grows up all of it. I don't know if we want like whoa how what is Gen Z.. Like what's the cutoff. How old are now gen Z.? I didn't like ninety seven. I'm pretty sure we'll technically agenda when he's so. Do we want like a tribe of walls chirp. Why not? But I don't think everyone with agendas central. Yeah that's that's true. We learn up to generalize. Because someone's Jen's it. Yeah Yeah he could have passed for a millennial. Sal I feel like It's different and he missed his chance to vote off of Chris. HAMMONDS and say okay boomer. Sooner Chris Chris Hammonds not not a boomer in that sense only is a Oklahoma Glaucoma graduate. Yes okay I'm borrowing. Mike Bloom joke because I had tweeted to him earlier that I wanted to do a podcast with him so I could use okay bloomer on a podcast well now you've used it already so it's not gonna mean anything when you get that opportunity. I also try to see you try. The joke's on us first and then our reacted mental use them with I was also trying to workshop a parenting joke. About how when you go to a we have a birthday party for your kid and then some somebody comes and then you have to go to that kid's birthday party that's a kid. Pro Pro quo out. And that's why I it's telling Nicole. Stop inviting people to birthday parties because then we have to go to all these other birthday parties parties. I mean I feel like you should let your kids the social life just because you don't like leaving the house so many podcast anyway so Hannah said I wonder if future survivor players will use last night strategy of having an ex girlfriend common smart. Yeah I think yes you. Should I really do you. We know yet who did get the fishy. How come deans ex girlfriend is an on twitter? Remember when Bradley was on survivor cursing cursing and then she's like. I'm Bradley ex girlfriend that I'm watching survivor. Why the atom climbed voice From the okay. I Love Bradley. I I don't remember that but I also wasn't super plugged in at that moment in time. If somebody's if she's out there you know I wanNA follow. Yeah I mean I do be careful what you wish for rub I want to follow. She doesn't have a to follow me. I wasn't being demanding a follow from her. Okay well you'll have to go looking her. You know who was really mad about this episode Carson Hill Alexis Maxwell now tweeted in all caps. Why is Jack on the jury if he didn't make the merge nothing against Jack but I beg to be on the jury when I was booted? I didn't leave the game. She didn't like that Yeah IT'S A. It's a strange move. I feel like I've seen a lot of people out there. You're saying well. Now that he's on Robin Sandra definitely voting has this changed your view on that at all. I don't know why would why because it's like okay. Well now if we have a million jury votes than what's what's a few more from Robin Sandra GonNa Matter. Well it's because with them being on doesn't it put it to thirteen votes so then it would be on people. I mean unless you're doing filed to it doesn't matter if number Jerry I mean you could. I doubt with a thirteen. Gene Person. Merged that they're going to do a final two. I gotTA assume they're doing final. Could be six six one maybe the jumbo jury for edge of extinction. And they're like well. We'll make an extra big this time. Eleven thirteen doesn't matter offer a jury numbers in terms of math. So I don't know I don't I don't i. Don't Love Love Jack Jack. I don't love somebody who hasn't played with every person game being on the jury. I mean it's happened before and I'm not usually a fan of it I would. It would pale in comparison to how mad I'll be though if Robin Sandra Vote non-players get ready to be mad. Randy Bailey said I. I was born at night but not last. Night was dot clever or funny or original. Sixteen years ago in Boston Rob's and it's not clever or funny or rich today. Bus Rob was doing in a callback of himself. Is that one of his catchphrases Jordan. Not that I know of them. I guess I guess it's possible but look. That's not really a Boston rob close. That's something that people say okay. Ah Yes an existing quote but he is right. It's not funnier original No yeah they named the episode after two. Yeah let's it's not so naive born last night but then it was born in the morning but not yesterday morning. I say that once and it didn't have the same Gravitas catas- it doesn't have the same ring to it but look I mean I feel like I'm someone who was born at twelve thirty one pm and I feel like it's a phrase that someone like me. He was born the afternoon show. I mean shouldn't shouldn't be using. I mean it's not a great phrase in any way. Maybe maybe nobody should be using it. Because it's all the point I was born in the morning Jordan. Can I not say it now but why can't I say hey. I was born in the morning but not yesterday morning. I mean you can have. But it just doesn't have the same impact and I was born around lunch so I was born around lunchtime but not not yesterday's lunchtime. Yeah Hey me too. I was born in Twelve Sixteen PM. Fifteen in minutes before me but I believe years I'm sure if I'm pretty sure a few years later and also on a different day. Yeah I mean it's sort of a a fancy way of saying like not a baby not on board. Has Anyone who can say this phrase was definitely not porn last night. They can't talk. They can't do any when you when you started your sentence. We knew that you were not last night. And babies can be fooled hold very easily. You can just play peekaboo and they think you're gone so obvious go. Object Permanence Yeah I was born and at night many years ago not yesterday for your information the idiot what you thought. I was a little baby little infant. No I was not born yesterday or even six six months ago. That would be a great final. Tribal Council reveal where where someone's like I was not born last night. I have not really a baby. I know I've been lying to you this whole time. I told you I was a baby but I am fact. An adult It would be great if somebody did the the big and said you know. Hey reveal I actually am. I actually am baby. I wish you grown up here. Zoltan cast a a wish on its altan result talk. She doesn't cast a wish on you genius and they're like hi guys. I'm actually a year and a half half. I know I told you I was not born last night. But it was closed. Okay and then. Jason Linden tweeted greeted. I watched survivor. I wasn't on it by now. I feel bad for him. Julius Rosenberg said hey you never know when you'll see a flashback of yourself. Alpha one day by choosing the flashback Jason's at ll the flashback. Be Of me getting my vote blocked or not getting air into pound me back Sad Jason Okay. All right down or not end that there's also a bunch of tweets from Shannon Gates. Who was I'm not sure? She is live tweeting lottery when she was watching. But there's just a bunch of great ones. She said though that she almost turned off the episode she missed the whole task. because the a flashback to season thirty eight made her brain explode but she did rally to say how Kelly picking the target keeping a new ally in her pocket. Still voting for Dean flushing an idol. Not Feeling the need to take credit or spotlight and being in the background. The unknown mastermind behind the pits. My level of STANDUP has reached critical levels level so shannon gates seemed to really applaud. The Kelly move. So there's somebody else in your corner these good good person having your Shannon Gates arguably one of the biggest in the world the biggest biggest all right. Let's get into the quiz. Is this week. And we're joined on the line by a pinch. Quiz are here for Kirsten McKenna's or Kirsten McGinnis as some say and we ear very excited to somebody with GM people are mad about it. Yeah but not so. We've introduced anything thing we want to. We don't want to lose great gasp. Because they don't WanNa take the quiz so we've added the option to like the National League that if you don't wife life or the the American League Jordan if people don't WanNa take the quiz we're gonNA bring in a pinch quiz and here to help us out with the quiz. He he is a man who is a self proclaimed Trivia Whiz. He cannot be something when it comes to survivor. Tribe names here. He is his new patron. Andy Andy how are you alot hello. I'm super excited. The pinch idea is a super good one and I'm excited to up. I one pioneer. Yes Kirsten Andy. Also he is a big survivor fan and got into big brother recently because of the podcast and is currently now. He watched all of big brother. twenty-one without any past big brother knowledge now has has gone back and started binging big brother one mistake. Mr Tried doing that a few years ago. And I think I watched like fifty episodes and then I realized Kirsten what are you doing. This is bringing you know joy. There is no reason for this. Turn it off and turning it off was the best decision I ever made so I highly recommend. Just turn up brother wonderful. Anyone actually finished sixty episodes in to finish just to tell you guys what happens. Go Gosh we're going to talk about it. How many how many episodes do you have? You been through. So it's been about fifty fifty eight. I'm actually superjet legged right now. I just got back from a week long trip to Manila so I really been watching. But I'm definitely going to finish Japan. Commend what I see. Yeah I've made this. I made a post on the facebook group. Showing that will mega quote. That was Reminiscent of Jackson Nikki. Yes I'd rather die on IRA feed. I always have trouble with but yeah Some crazy stuff. GOING ON BBC one's crazy all right enjoyed the first season stink just the right time to watch it. Actually like you feel like you might find some enjoyment there but again just turn it off start season two okay so this is the way that the pinch quiz earlier is going to work. Okay Hey that Kirsten will still pick the categories and then we know consulting allowed. You'll have to just pick what you think Andy will. We'll be best at and then Andy will give his recommendation for the answer. But that you have the final say Kirsten and so when Andy Destroys he'll do I count as part of the winning teams like name on the scoreboard with Andrews. Okay I'll make a Beyond Pearson's team. The way that I look at this is that I'm like Bron. From game of thrones. I'm a mercenary since not in her trial by combat. But I am I'm selected. Yes fans your route for me to win this cow. This is incredible Andrew. Have a question for you are were are you born. Last night. I was born at night the not last night attack. Baby podcast maybe four non babies. It's amazing altogether okay. All right and what are the categories this week okay so the categories that we have for this week's quiz. We have have subaquatic survivors immunity a- signers Jack's Sunday and not so hidden immunity idols. Okay Kirsten what category would you like like to have. Andy answer a question for you. I watched a genius. I know someday okay and you know the rules. Also yes I do but but I don't need to hear it. We don't have that kind of time tonight. Time for the Roessler. Everyone knows the rules. If you're and you'll figure the rules out if you don't know them okay. Perfect well I also watch the genius. I will go with Jackson Bei Jack Sunday okay so we are going to go to survivor. Cook Islands Una last episode of survivor island of the idols. Jack Nick thing join the exclusive club of pre mergers who made the jury who became the first jury member of Cook Islands becoming an early member of this club Slam Dunk. I know this the Oh can I say I give you into recommendation. Say if you don't WanNa hear the choices okay. I know it is Brad. Okay so Kirsten. Are you going to go with with Anders Answer. Yeah I trust arrest Andrew. It's brand it's Brad Brad. VIRATA is correct originally. When I was writing that last question in my head I thought maybe he was the first person in this club? It's good I did by research because it was actually Erin from Thailand who made the fake merged but not the real merge so yeah Brad Brad. VIRATA was the second member of this club of people who did not make the merge. What made the jury and Andrew Kirsten you get two points? Good start outfield. So good yes rob. You have subaquatic survivors immunity Aditya signers and not so hidden immunity. Idols seems like it was going for like a rhyming thing and then gave up after two grace potentially okay. I like when you're asking your own hypothetical questions. Okay I will go with. What was the last one about the idol not not so hidden idols? Sure so we're going to go to survivor Philippines. In what Jeff probst called at the time most complicated entertaining tribal council ever are which two players pulled out idols revealing them before the votes were even cast. Okay there's some confusion about a question from last week where I have. How many answers were there? This is specified. There are two answers to this question. You need to get both of them. Okay Could I hear the choices. Yes we have a Abby Maria and Malcolm Be Abby Maria and tanner. CRC and Malcolm DRC and Penner her. And you're going for one point now because you've heard the answers. Okay yes thank you. Can you say the choices one more time. Yup Abby Maria Welcome Abby Maria Korea and Penner. RCN Malcolm are seen Penner. Okay I'm going to say was a abby and and Malcolm Abby Malcolm is correct. Penner played his idol at the previous trial so he didn't have one left at this point. So this is correct. You a tribal council on where Jeff Kent was voted out and rob. You've got a point so it's two one pistol and you if you were on fire. That's when I take your thoughts on the roads right now. He he said Live no one else knew a live event in that I miss because I was in California Korea. Okay so I mean actually he probably. I think it's a very odd thing to for anybody to do. It's actually not what you should do. Someone if you're a sadist. Maybe whatever happened to baby. Yeah Okay Kristin you have to do categories. He's left you get to choose for Andrew. We have subaquatic survivors and we have immunity a- signers while go for either okay Let's go with Immunity signers okay. So we're going to go to survivor Pearl Islands after winning the first individual immunity challenge. Who did Burton give the necklace to tribal council being that he was already immune during due to returning as an outcast? Can we talk this out. You can talk it out for a roofing for the the pinch quizzes. If it can kirsten choose to still go for one if they talk it out. How variety yeah okay? So yeah. Talk it out. And if Kirsten wants to hear the multiple choice options when it's time to answer she definitely yeah. See The problem with my memories. I haven't seen it written down. I'm not going to remember it. I didn't want to do the you'll remember is that the immunity necklace was a sword that season so I have a visual memory of passing it but so this is the merge he I remember him having immunity for being an outcast and then he would give it. Does someone else do. We need the choices. Yeah Yeah let's give us a names okay. So we have a johnny fairplay. Be Rupert. See Sandra Dee Akiva winokur. The joke answers are hilarious. I wonder if he's been one. He's the joke answer. He doesn't listen I did I. Did you tell him that he was going to an audience of one for that and you pick the wrong person so he worked with fairplay. I would just go maybe with that. Not how like. How confident are you a not a I'm a solid three ten thirty percent. What kind of inquisitor as got Brad Giradi? Yeah yeah that's true for more than thirty percent. There's only three real answers so you should definitely be more than thirty. I three point three percent. You the unless you're thinking wait was a key on that season. I don't want an. He's up famous survivor. I definitely okay so it was. It was Rupert Sandra or fair-play. Let's go with fairplay or Akiva Curson. Do you want to go with fairplay or you're going to go with someone else. Yeah I I'll follow injure anywhere and we'll we'll go play Elliott Okay so you follow Andrew on the last question you were right. You followed him on this one. Unfortunately oh you were incorrect. It was rupert was actually came in second place to Burton that challenge and a burn gave it to rupert. So you don't get any points there and it is Rob Turner Rob if you get two points on this on this answer. You're going to go into the final round with a lead out. We're going to subaquatic survivors. We're going to survivor Thailand. The last immunity challenge before the real merge of survivor. Thailand was a competition to see who could last the longest underwater while breathing through a bamboo. Snorkel which player lasted the longest underwater winning the challenge for their tribe who lasted the longest one more time. Sure the last immunity challenge before the real merge of survivor. Thailand was a competition to see who could last the longest underwater while breathing through a bamboo snorkel. Which player lasted the longest underwater winning winning the challenge for their tribe? Let me hear the choices sure Was it a helen. B Brian See Clay d big Ted. I'm torn between Helen and in a Brian. I know that Helen is a dive instructor. And I know she has experienced in the water or so say it was Helen. Hellen would've probably very good choice. They're based on on her profession. Unfortunately it was Brian who I was the one one who lasted the longest so professional dive. Master I guess. You don't really have to stay underwater that long. You just get to come up whenever you're ready. So it is. It is two to one So Andrew Kirsten had a lead going into the final round so Andrew. When I when I met you at a at the latest survivor know it alls we talked a lot about about different survivor history? We gave me some very good information on booed orders. And you're correct on everything checked and you seem to be a very very good with a lot of the pre merge tribe names which are the ones that I think that are probably easier to remember and it's still not easy to remember. There's been a lot of tribes in survivor history. But some of these posts named try these. These merge tribe names are not really spoken about too much on the season. I think they're a little bit harder to remember. So I am going to be quizzing. You guys on some of those today so I have. You're GonNa give me a actually rob is GonNa give me a number from one through seven to decide the order after I am going to give you the merged tribe name. You have to tell me the season we're going to go through four of these. If we have a tie after four we will go to a tiebreaker. which will just whiskey? It'll continue the game and if one of you get a question wrong on this the other person gets to. It means that I introduced new patron Andy that the that his his talent is that he knows all of the tribe names and you literally made the survivor Trivia the bonus round of job guest the tribe names Pat. I'm glad that he was the guest like so in the whole week that he was the guest. I mean look. We've done this game before. Okay all right all right. I'm calling it W I mean it's you're lying now. I'll be really disappointed. Okay all right rob you you have to. You have to also Kirsten's wildcard here personally disagree so and this I disagree. Honor of the jets. Getting their second can win. I'll go to number two okay number two and these are just just with both of you there. These are going to be all odd number. Seasons is history and that's how it works. Okay number two arrive. You get the NECA I'm giving you the season that was. Because they're all in Fiji so I'll say it was David versus Goliath in versus disquiet. And is is right or wrong. He is unfortunately off twenty years. He's in back in Fiji millennials versus genetics. That's correct so if you can you can you tell me which I say. Yes that is what is the David versus Goliath. Try merced name not together on her Callapollo okay so maybe this was not a good. I'll look you got the wrong anyway anyway. So you got the Franklin wrong. Yeah but even for the record even I knew that one was money versus the final final score. We have two to one entering Kirsten or winners of. I'm just the baby was born yesterday and it was great. Great working with you. Even though you snubbed my hot takes will move forward remade a good team. This time there were so many hot takes. I can't I can't be fair region. Good they were a little spicy. Okay I have the one about adult diapers so prone okay. Well then. I'm not apologizing. What was what was the date? Adult diaper should be more common and that they should. It'd be putting more money in self urination technology. Okay all right A. Through on the insides. Besides it's just the bodily function I mean. I had a close call even in Manila in traffic in two hours. AL's diner or the bathroom. Okay this sounds like it's more of a problem than anything else to rob paid to author when they're at work so a boy voter. This is the the thrill of Manila parts. Oh boy well thank thank you andy for leaving victory. I know I'm dying to the war. And these other takes Kirsten we round found out the quartet. All right you give the rest of Andy's takes let me talk talk about of course Make sure you want to check out the BNB. This weekend with Mike and Liana talking with Mary Holland. And of course why Jaguar. It's pretty bad I wanted some clarification. My doesn't technology cooperate with okay. Okay maybe this is a good omen for Kirsty head. First I survivor you fall into Chris. I'm oh I found just takes by the way. I'm pretty sure that it was rob. It was rough. Okay the second best take from from Andy's second hottest second hottest adult diaper. Yeah I'm an eight by eight room and three possessions are all the material things you need to live happily. I agree with that. All right. The three dimensional by those three things is adult diapers on. Maybe he really is just a baby. And then I'm going to say your take on sleep. Being being a burden is horrible actually. Okay we don't need to get into. That's right okay. We'll take adult diapers all right. The second one is the second survivor. You follow it was the first survivor on twitter. WHO's not on this bike? As right now all I have absolutely no idea. Okay Oh love Kelly all right thank you Adrian. It's been an honor. It's do you WanNa give out your social media or do you. I WANNA be in. I S I have very normal. Not Crazy instagram is just Andrew de Rada as my last name are you. EDA The DA. Which I think is a handle? You approve of yes very good. Although I do Heaven Jackson Nikki Situation Going on sometimes Andrew sometimes on Mandy Affair utterly to get that straight. But you're not your last name so that's not too hard to say all right now. Of course Kirsten. Where can people find you on social social media? Instagram twitter at Curson said what on twitch dot TV slash Curson said. What and doing podcasts? Over on caskey cast that is cow L. With a K.. And maybe I'll have to change my last name too. Quick Hausky I don't know but Intel just gas for now. Thank you. 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Survivor B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Season 40 Episode 7 with Peridiam & Once Upon an Island

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Survivor B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Season 40 Episode 7 with Peridiam & Once Upon an Island

"Some game right through your offense law as the R H A day off. I can sell you the our ASE. Hi everybody welcome to the RHA. Bnb for episode seven of survivor winners at war as we are finishing off I would call a pre merge for the ages and to commemorate the occasion. We have some guests for the ages of worship as announced last week the autumn. Boris is not here. Don't worry she did not raise the mast or the flag. She has not gone forever. Just taking a temporary goddess. She'll be back next week but in her place. We have assembled a survivor. Youtubers special two of some of the best guys putting out constant survivor video content each and every week on the interwebs which in this day and age. I know that I need. I'm sure a lot of people need as well. It's an old guest in a new guest as I bring in the familiar welcoming back to the BNB per radium. Pretty how are you? Thank you Mike for Having me back. Third Time's The charm. Appreciate it and yeah it's been it's been crazy crazy times both on and off survivor and I'm just glad to be back in the BNB land some games. Like I think most people are these days indoors having a good time exactly and hopefully you know we're not playing this so there's no chance of like board game pieces going flying everywhere when people getting really get angry. It's virtually and you can sort of stealing your own home rather than have to take it out any personal property. Yeah Not. I don't think it's far geographically located. Maybe one day we'll get together and do some actual board gaming inside big little survivor pocket or something. Who knows? Yeah let's say the survivor official board game. I have blue then. We'll do that. Rpg Liana was talking to him again RPG. Last week we'll get together make an Oregon chiller. Pg and see how that pans a amazing. Well maybe we can invite this guy as well on new guest to the BNB. You might know him as once upon an island on Youtube doing basically I could explain it but I would call them. Video essays about some of the more old school castaways in a season that has sort of had the unintentional underline of old school versus New School. Very pertinent that. He's here once upon an Island Aka. Wesley how you doing welcome to the BNB doing well. And the more I think about the corona virus. I think it's also a story and I can expect twenty documentaries in two thousand twenty one about it. I mean I mean so many. It's GonNa be like the Fire Festival festival documentary where there's a. Hulu one one is going to be cross. Comparisons of which one should I watch? Yes yes there will be. There will be so many. I can only imagine how many stories told Colonel Virus when people are allowed to get the film. Well so Wesley speaking film I'm going to throw this to you because you're a new guest. I'M GONNA put your feet to the fire here. Give us your backstory to survivor. As well as for the uninitiated give us a little bit of a taste as to what once upon an island is as a channel. Sure sure so feet to the fire very funny because my first was Australian outback. Well actually okay so technically I. I WATCH ORNATE OFFERS BUT TO BE I. Don't remember born. Yeah when I first lost. I do remember showing outback was such A. It was a season with Colby and then on the fire with he who shall not be named. So I've been watching since then I then at one point joined the navy and uh shockingly in Cuba you just can't. There's no access to survivor. Which is the saddest thing in Cuba? So there's quite a few seasons where I didn't watch the show and then I picked it right. Back up millennials versus Jedinak. I'm sorry go wrong. And then after wrong happened. I'm like well. This is a great season. I gotTa Watch everything I missed and I did and I'm caught up and then I got obsessed on rob is off. Asinine on this podcast and that there's a question you asked I missed. Oh yes the channel. Yeah so actually some credit supreme because Caribbeam I think was a big part in y. My channel started Some huge I'M A. I went to college degree after the navy for filmmaking. It's like my my passion imprint out a video called. I think it was the call. Now don't here but I think it's called the story of Dr Will Kirby and at the end of it he's like Oh man you know what you guys think? What if I did stories about survivor? Amazing Grace and I'm like you should. And then he never did. I think he put on about Daniel Rams a year later and I was like I was hoping as me like a regular thing on the channel so I was like. Oh this is really good and so I was like. Oh what if I do a heated but on steroids with my take because as a filmmaker feel like? That's like how I think about. Almost everything like how. This is a film. Why is a nicer thing? Things like a survivor at it. Why is this person telling me this telling me this with the purpose because everything is survivor has a purpose? It not everything in life does but you so in the minds as earth thing like that I feel like answer the question so so basically yeah for those. That don't know that these are essentially sort of narrative videos that tell the stories whether they'd be players or events that happened. Yeah my bad yes okay. So the point of the once upon an island youtube channel where I'm going through every season of survivor chronologically starting with Borneo and eventually I think I'll get to a currencies and I don't know how many years down the line that will be the survivor stories. I can say that it's it's easier said than done when it comes to the modern seasons some of the seasons are hard to watch. I just finished Thailand. I'm actually finishing Brian. Hi Tech Story. Right now and it's the weirdest one by far like just he's just such as something but but Yeah I am going to Susan's chronologically. I'm telling the stories of what I consider major survivor actor. So for example a recent would be like edge of extinction like rick. Devon's was a major character like even though he didn't win he's he has a story about him because he's just such a major character in that season for people who may have only watch recent seasons to give you better context but with every season going to do the story of the winner whether they are from Samoa Natalie similar with almost no content or even if their boss Robin Redemption Island. It's like the whole season's just about them so I'm GonNa always going to serve the winner but L. at my Not like self not much but my my patients on Patriot. I'll let them pick the other stories. I'm GONNA do anything. That's not the winner. Let them so. Yeah and I walked through the story from beginning to end and I try to like every single thing. Survivor told you about this person. No matter how little or or big it is. I try to cover that art because there with the there's a purpose to everything they're telling you I would say ninety five time. Sometimes they throw things in their three off but not in early seasons. Just that's more recent. I think early every single thing has a purpose to what they're why they're showing it to you so I cover all that that's something that interests you. If you like obsessive that's this is this channel for you. Yeah and I know that I personally came into contact with the channel. Probably I'd say one of your biggest videos. You put out so far the point where the man himself who you covered. Ethan's on even made a mention of it. Was Your your story about him which I thought was very pertinent. Given that people might not have watched Africa since it aired in two thousand one hell. Some people might not have watched Africa in general so I thought it was a great summary of his game and who he was the player and I do think it actually did fundamentally fill in some blanks as to how he played for. How many episodes this season? So yeah we're interested in checking out especially on that more old school content. You should check out once upon an island pretty am I also know that further season you have sort of changed up your own weekly content battle maps and all. Yeah exactly I was. I've been so excited about winters at war. I you know I spent a lot of time. Obviously if you see my channel talking a lot about history but I was like I would love to find a way to integrate modern survivor. What's happening on the screen each week? A lot of times. I'll make a video based around the theme of the latest episode. But it won't necessarily talk too much so I was like you know. Obviously a huge part of making videos on Youtube is working with the copyright system and they will wash it will not be able not hesitate to down if they want. They don't like what you're saying or just. The Algorithm is not having a good day so I just worked on creating graphics and spent a while building an idea that I know. It's relevant to what I like to do every day. Play Games whether they're board games or video games or whatever so I created this concept having a big Oak table with a battle map out like you're in a war like it's winters at war and putting little pieces on the table of a map of an island and moving around trying to explain what was happening. And who's doing what? And what's the strategy and sort of laying it out for people and it was a very different idea that I found. I think actually like what a lot requires a little bit more time than the average video but I find it. Hollywood more rewarding. Yeah sort of doing this for about half the season I don't know how many more will put out one more for the merge we'll see really SORTA take it week by week. I have outlined for videos that I want to cover we. Can we got a lot of times? Things just change on a dime based on based on the second swap with Denise Doing Double Idol did not intend to make a battlement video for that tonight said screw it. I love the. I love the episode. The love the strategy. So I got I gotta you know. Lay this out talk about what was going on very very good to idols played in one episode. And there it was so yeah and I WANNA talk about. It's really cool by the way on Wesley here that you weren't in general. I I know I ju- recently joined your paycheck and you have like way more. You're crazy 'cause I have like. I make video the week of four videos on your Patriot and so not to like say golding but you really should if you like what he's doing because you've got so many other videos talking about like she and I was just looking at all the other ones you had on China right now and it's funny that you bring up. The doctor will one from big brother because that was the very first one I did. I love those and this coming big brother season assuming we get it. Hopefully Krona doesn't doesn't remove it from US too soon. You know based on my big brother candidate happen. I'm hoping that doesn't have a brother. Twenty two because I would love to get back into talking about big brother as well but I have a slew of the story videos coming out. I have one's for Allison for June for Drouin Diane for magazine Journal for Down Dick and Danielle and I got a ton of them in the works for big brother. I don't know why I focus on big brother for the story videos less about survivor. But the fact that you're covering that whole that don't really do on my channel which is survivor story. Videos is really cool and even better than that in the last thing I want to say is that the doctor will video. I made the video and then I received a doctor will right after wile E. chewed me out and it was amazing. I was on. The surface was obviously happy with everything you say. He was not video for some reason. I was really trying to make it about the strategic game that he brought the first season of the strategic version of Big Brother. He wanted me to talk more about the character moments. The things that he you know they were happening like last. There was the pig so it was just really funny that you mentioned that video. 'cause I'm just thinking yeah. That was the only one where he messaged me and we had a back and forth and he was. He gave me a lot of constructive criticism. Lana affiliate content on your channel. You wanted to be on the video you didn't feel it wasn't relevant to the strategy of the so I have. I have the opposite interaction because after I oppose the Ethan Video Eastern out to me and now we like talking to daily basis. I have a phone number. And we're like friends like I opposite. Yeah very opposites Dr. Honestly you know what I was looking at. You know. I've been watching so much big brother getting the chance to have an iconic moment from one of these shows that loves you now to me if all very much like I was dealing with Dr. Well if I was on a season of big brother he didn't break character for a moment. It was exactly what I was hoping for. So I'll take it with me for the rest of my life. Well we have to treat you better more Ethan and less doctor will over the course of this. Let's works. Let's get into this season gentlemen because I put this out on on my twitter a bit of a poll but I would love to sort of pull the room so we officially are done with the pre merge of survivor winners at war. I think some big you'll fans including present company would have wished that it came in episode earlier but here we are seven episodes in top ten pre merge bottom ten pre merge somewhere in the middle as compared to other seasons. What do you guys think so? Oh yeah okay. I'll jump on in this. I don't WanNA selling any broken record because I know a lot of people are like. Oh you know give us more content but same time I kind of understand like the scheduling for television or why they don't so anyways my point the one what I'm really saying is I feel like the content. We have is really good by really do. We're being shorted in a lot of ways in terms of there's especially the secret scenes like there's so much out there especially in. I love the edge. I really do I take on. I love the edge this season but I just feel like because of the ratings so much especially with three tribes much less concepts like I love it but same time like a love hate because I want more I want more and I still want them to retain the Eh just want more and I know it's like a broken record. Never asked for ninety nine episodes so I don't know top ten probably if I were to really break it down but I can't say the best pre merger because I feel like I'm getting shorter that a lot of ways. You had a lot of recently bias. Of course I think there's something to having twenty champions back that makes it difficult for. I try to view objectively as best I can but obviously it's impossible and sometimes I'm like you know what the viewing experience is a superfan survivor. Just sort of embrace it even. If I'm losing my favorites left and right which I am losing. I think a lot of us are still like objectively. I tried it. I think that there's a lot of stuff going on. Try not to be too biased. I think before I started my channel which was started during the middle of heroes healers and hustlers and that was acquitted quite a game changing season as far as the future of survivor wine. And I remember watching game changers before that as just like a non just as like a regular guy watching it without thinking about making videos and exploring writing two to three thousand word essays about the latest episode ever. This is just me watching it as a fan. I remember being highly disappointed. And I also didn't really enjoy a lot of game changers because a lot of my favorites were going and I was like okay so I'm seeing that now online. A lot of people are sort of bringing up. Is this like another game. Changers pre merge? All Lot of the big best players are going back to back to back. And I'm like you know what I don't I don't actually turned around later on every watched game changers and I really loved the pre merge actually said it was one of the best pre merges of evolve survivor even if the post March leaves lots desired. I'm hoping we don't get that here because I really do like the winters at war pre merge. I'm not a huge fan. Either spoiler not each fan of Edge of extinction. I get more than I think than what we got with. Two seasons ago I would love to have long episodes. I think that this season could absolutely work with. I think he's see the secret scenes on. Cbs All access. And I've watched all of them. I loved all of them. Even the little ones where. There's continuously read the the trail over and over again. I'm like you know what I love it. I get to see like there's Ben reading drill. They're sophie reading on line classes ever. Yeah honestly like the pretty much I think maybe top ten. Maybe maybe up there. Yeah I could see it being top ten for sure it. Let me take that point about the comparisons to game change because I understand specifically this has been an old school wipeout where for one reason or another essentially anyone who played free heroes vs villains and like maybe a smidge afterwards promptly were voted out and I think to that extent people are saying. Wow all these big names finally went. Who are we left with? But I feel like the fundamental difference between this and as he's unlike game changers is who were left with. I really feel like this has to be this. Heroes vs villains has to be the strongest cast of all time in survivor. Because I do feel sincerely that each and every person has brought it in some capacity whether it's from entertainment perspective or a strategy perspective or an emotional perspective like I felt the presence of each one of those twenty people there and so even though yes we've lost all these big people. We still have left. You know. I would not have believed you if you told me. Preseason that are big two characters pre merge would have been Adam Klein and Michelle Fitzgerald. They have huge rolls on this season. Yet people like Jeremiah and denise you have Kim you have Tony like there is so much going on that I feel like it's not like you know the post merge of game changers where it's Okay it's Sarah Don Thomas and angry Debbie and choice. An that definitely felt more like the initial Oji all-stars of okay. Yeah we're thinking of the big names and then to the to the rest. The victory goes here. It feels like a universal even equality of them all being winners. It does feel like it's more even-handed in the way we're approaching this merch. I also think the presentation I don't know I don't know I can't really talk too much about this but I just feel like at least from an editing perspective. I've really enjoyed the editing. That's been going on in the war. I think he's been quite even even killed. I mean I would say I was somewhat even his game changers in the pre merger at the very least. I'm holding my breath. We'll see what happens with the post merge knows. I'm hoping it stays more of the same. I felt it's. It's really giving everyone a fair shake. You know. Maybe the earlier foods don't have as much air time media like Danny or amber but otherwise. I think it's been doing a great job. We've got some compelling storylines I think everyone has been given time to shine our moment to shine. Some people really funny giving giving us new angles of their character and these are all winners proven that they know how to give us a show. They can win the game. They can play the game obviously very well they can all do it enough to succeed at least one so. I think agree with that sentiment. I think this is probably the strongest gas. They've had in history which is crazy to say it's like how would they ever match? Here's versus volunteers. Villains have a lot like the reputation guilt building on like having the big rupert or Jerry or whoever especially going deep colby this is more like we just have people that are proven tried and true game players and I think as far as like you talking about the evolution of the show having that season forty as opposed to. Here's versace's villa andrus thematic season. Here it's now more based on. Gameplay you have these players who are and we all the thirties winners are still in at this point. Which is impressive and different. And they're the latest and they're all heavily involved in the game play much more than the old the old school days which were a little bit more thematic and slower pace. Look at Ethan and whatnot so I I think that this season as so far hopefully continues. But it's been firing on all cylinders. Well let's get into the boot from this most recent episode and right down to the challenge this really did feel like a bit of like Jeb. Any situation from survivor. David versus Goliath of like. Here's this four. That feels pretty tight with each other and then they have to go to tribal council and vote somebody off now. Maybe Nick hopes he can move forward with this group in the final three can be him nick and Michelle and he can repeat history but we lose. You'll hear who I do feel like it was probably one of the bigger question marks going into this season. I know that I was on a panel before the season on our HP with Robin Liana and terrain where we talked about this that you'll have been doing so much stuff. In the interim between survivor seasons but playing survivor was not one of them. And so you always wonder someone who has analytical as you'll how's he going to adjust to the pace of the monitoring game but also these random new advantages that are thrown his way? We'll get into what Leon and I thought beforehand but Wesley. What did you think about a? You'll coming back and be how he would do. Preseason did it match up to how we ended up seeing. You'll on season forty I. Yeah no I really liked. You'll the season one of the people. I wish we had wished we had heard more from it was funny. My Dad text me last week after last week's saying oh I wouldn't put money down that you'll is GonNa win season which fairy. He's still cut but I was like I don't see it. Of course my dad doesn't watch for the edit and that's all I can focus on but no. I really liked dual. I thought he was awesome. And he's is very analytical and I feel like if if there was just two tribes tribes he would have been able to blend in more. But when you're in these small tribes it's like well. There's a smart guy in the room. Let's get them. It's a lot harder to hide. I'm glad he came back. I rarely am. It's unfortunate. We didn't have. We don't we don't have like a season between I feel like us on our season Maybe HE I don't know I just listen to the recap of the last night where. Chrissy talkback Why she thought why you'll went in a completely threw off everything thought before I can't get out of my head I don't WanNA ask. Your old crissy was like well. I'm pretty sure you'll sorted out because all the old school is on edge of extinction. And he's an old schooler. So they're all gonNa vote for him if he makes it to the end and I'm like crap she's probably right which negates everything I was thinking. So just I know it's it's a good point and I wonder if another contributed to it is monique and Michelle. Sort of talking through their options as kingmakers in this episode. They said that I think Nick said in particular that like you'll they'd have to sort of fall under his command and they wouldn't feel as flexible so I wonder though. Wendell is drawing a lot of fire from both on and off screen for the way he's been behaving. I do wonder if they want to serve as more of a fulcrum. Swing vote between all of these coalitions at the merge and having someone like Ghoul keep them in line prevents them from doing the game. Play that they want I remember. Yeah sorry I was just thinking about at about whether this was this old school slaughter and if that lends itself to like. I've seen people speculate on whether whether we actually have a rivalry going between Michelle and Wendell or is this just played up for the cameras for the story line because I think Nick Marrano and in general I kind of agreed where she was wrong and she probably was the most compelling winter ever hear. She's back and she's giving us I would say some of the best content of the season. I look forward to every time. She's on the screen and so I'm wondering now like if you will was just sort of the old school and also maybe the reason they were brought up in the episode where he is too much of a threat land. But it's like you know. He's a huge shield and if. Wendell is kind of being this guy who's like I would say way Wendell versus you'll I'd probably take your the marriage. I don't think there's anything to differentiating between the you'll has a huge reputation. Big Target. I would think you would want them in front of you. You such diplomatic like well-reasoned understanding individual. I don't know missed it by by. I would probably put him over. Wendell who I just feel like. It's way more shifty I. I'm just trying to process you'll disappearing before our very eyes. He didn't even he didn't even get a moment to tell us anything about his thoughts. After the swap between the swap and this episode was completely off the screen. Like where's you'll why isn't he will work? And why didn't we? I would love to have harvey you'll connection. We didn't see any of that. I saw was the dairy briefly. Apparently his wife loved poverty. And that's that's out but his wife was also named Sophie. Maybe he was trying to do a bit of a usual suspects. Kaiser says they looking around the room to make themselves. You know what though when I see things like that like you. Only hear like one thing about them as a person and we've gone seven episodes in all here is all I see is like mom. They're not winning so unfortunate too. Because it's like you know everyone on right. It's almost like everyone's GonNa you disappointed eventually. I don't know when but eventually I mentioned this. On a on a tweet that Victoria from thirty eight extinction where she was adamantly against the edge of extinction go figure thinking about this and I still like one of the bigger. Tragedies of this season is Nice Day. Tragedy is a joke way usually tongue in cheek. But I'm like is that with so many of our favorite players especially with this pre merge all going to the edge of extinction I think just instinctively people are just going to start falling in love with the edge of extinction by default because all of the best players that we want to see are all there and it's going to slowly become bigger more accompanying assuming not everyone pulls a Sandra. It's going to become. Its own season of everyone that everyone wants to watch. And then all of a sudden people are going to be clamoring. We want edge of extinction we. I know that that's been a resounding sentiment with more casual watchers people. That aren't as hard core or studying the game as much like I would say I am. I so I'm like I don't love the distinction from a gameplay perspective so I'm wondering now seeing someone like y'all go there if it's going to increase in popularity and it's GonNa keep going as more of our favorites. Keep going on there so yeah well speaking of that not necessarily edge of extinction like this idea of twist. Did you guys notice when you'll was talking about? The Fire Tokens the glue on Jeff. Probst face there were. There was one point. I think when when you're talking about like incentivizing people with Fire Tokens and I think Jeff Outright says this this game sounds fantastic like Euler this so much that they took his quotes and they put it in the promos. Yeah literally AT LAYER DUPLICITY TO THE GAME. And put it in the teaser. I can't believe they actually took. It's like when you take a particular line from the movie and make title of the film you know like I am so surprised they did that. But you could understand Jeff PROBST K. Finally someone said something. Good of Hellfire Tokens picture. Air That in like underlined it three times because that thing is going away you'll you'll probst and giving you my all here. Please save me. Man Helps out on. Its it reminds me of on the edge of extinction season when dog was like the themes on trial. You're on trial and then just like yes. Life Anneli throwing your trial. Jeff's like you know where he went to bed and the Mir and you can just really talented chefs like. Yeah this is what I was saying in the production meetings before the season. Well let's get into some of our preseason thoughts on you'll start with Leon. Who sent me her her predictions in Abstentia God? I was going to say. I'm looking at the fire token math and I don't even know what it is right now. But you'll you'll she thought that you was going to form the new coconut bandits with Tyson. She said that actually out of Australian survivor. She would get voted would get voted out at a fake tribal council and sent to the other tribe and is given thirty fire. Tokens Essay Constellation tries to create an entire economic system. Based on a fire tokens parentheses. Check out the seven point. Six percent return on those fire token index funds. Okay here we go. Fire Tokens seven hundred ninety. Two invested in high interest savings hundred ninety invested in mutual funds and five hundred eighty three to buy an investment property and Fiji twenty-three Festivals. Closest allies are denise and. Tony Enemy is Sandra. I'm not gonNA do the math. But it seems like. It's probably close to two thousand. And Fire Tokens for you`ll. That's what. Lee is predicting in many different investments. Honestly I could see that. I realize happening if he didn't give out here so it was a good idea. And like you get swap screwed. But we're gonNA give you like these tokens as constellation for putting you in a bad situation. I mean what's the exchange rate for them at the airport? Like you're back in American like I got two thousand fire token and you're in the duty free shop. What are you getting all flights in this day and age? So I don't know decided hush money of listen. Don't decry twists many five or tokens as you need so much butter so much peanut butter. I wonder what they're gonNa do with your going back now. He's on there but he just missed like they started giving them alligators Halloween. Less less episode with Rob's driving around like. Oh there's a there's a fired I'm like you know like so much for getting swap screwed or whatever he's Guy. No Fire Tokens and he just missed the big all so maybe maybe next episode when one person comes back from the edge jeff will be like here guys to make you feel better like cures. Firefighter Tokens each or something. Because agree like we had the log task. We had this task which was not. Everyone gets a fire token but like the opportunity to find up to four now. It's going to be more like wholesale fire token findings because since there's probably more people on the island that's I don't know I don't know if it's GONNA increase or decrease the amount of just finding something in the sand and gifting power to somebody in the game. I was just trying to give out stimulus. Fire Tokens of this boy was going to happen. And they're like here's some stimulus. Fire Tokens let's GonNa be gone. Yeah I think it's also because of the upcoming challenge. They probably wouldn't mind if a few people who like works extra hard in the episode like Astana. Better chance to give back or maybe just pointed Basarab in the direction of the Near Swan said Borrow Robin wants you back in the game. But either way I don't know we'll see what actions so I thought that you'll be going to be the most loyal member of his alliance. I said he would find it advantage but surprisingly missed play it. I guess that was sort of like Sandra Style and this season I said he. Easy consensus vote. Okay that happened. It didn't think it would be a four percent drive. I said he'd be the most conservative with his fire. Token slash advantages closest. Ally is nick. Worst enemy. Is Jeremy twenty-five confessionals and six fire tokens. I could see you'll sort of being like a fire. Token hoarder eventually finds it feeling like he's going to get a better return on investment. If you know the the second challenge comes around at the final six by a super idol like he didn't Cook Islands heating by there. But you know he's got that becomes an item anything in the post merge token spry. Okay what else can we throw in there to really just fultz with the idea of an idol? Let's put a super idol in their beyond them before we move onto more funding games. We're GONNA take a quick break to listen to a word from our sponsors. Hey it's Ben Henry and Marcus host of the last podcast on the left are shows dedicated to uncovering hilariously horrifying stuff. 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This person's going to win. And if you pay attention you'll notice that are as some people the winners at us. I went back and rewatch the premier this week and a half three quotes from the premier and these are what I would consider not necessarily like straight up like okay. This burdens winning these are the three quotes that stood out is like I think this person is a really good chance of going to the end and possibly winning but none of them are like straight up. This is the winner quote. This is the winner. I think at this point. We're probably be savvy if we heard it. We would know it so I just want. I don't I don't I don't know if it matters who answers what she has to take a. Guess I'll I'll give you all. Twenty players are eligible but surprisingly it doesn't matter even if I said that because all these quotes come from people who are still in the game and on edge narrowed our free like that anyone who's still in the game not on edge said these quotes So the first quarter I have is I think. The winner of the season will be the person who's able to use the currency correctly. I am from the newer seasons where we're where we are used to twist winners standard there are unpredictable facets of the game so. I think my chances to win this game got much higher. Anyone have guessed. Believe that was nick. Yes it was. It was Nick Wilson and I know it seems like he has been completely buried this season. But Nick has ten confessionals won the last seven. Which tells you say like I guess. Better be silent than in some case being portrayed like Adam Rental. This season debut praying for purple editor at this point. We'll take take the atom and Wendell at it every day that we get much other somebody bring a villain at it than an invisible. Purple added. Nothing against Kelly. Well if if I look at the numbers real quick nick like while he was onto call was buried and I think for good reason. There's a lot of big characters there. But ever. Since he got the Soleil he is is confessionals have doubled tripled perhaps owed he was getting like one perhaps and now he's getting two or three so he very interesting in the merge that picks up he's been he's in reading the fence he's been right in the middle comfortably episode so. I think with all these targets that kind of ask you so that really stood out to me I think it's probably the most clear-cut consider a winner quote. It doesn't mean that he's GonNa win though because he does say that you know I think someone from a recent seasons GONNA win the game. Which does tie into my next two quotes the second quote and I think both the unnoticed wants most famous. I want everyone get nice and comfortable with me because the guards are here right now and they're slowly coming down as they see me around the camp all day all night when it gets down to hear Bang. That's where the sucker punch comes in Who might have said that? I was Danny who might have mind themselves putting their fists up as they were talking about this analogy. That was one of my favorite confessionals. Probably ever seen in all of survivor. Just going to say I immediately used that and like the first video I loved it obviously. Was Tony Lakos and the premier. Yeah yeah that was so good to me. That reads Tony. It's they're telling US attorney's GonNa Blind set everyone because everyone talks in the premier but not everyone talks about what they're GONNA do. This people talk about what they've been doing or howsoever change them but not everyone if you go back and watch talks about what they're gonNa do this season how this season's GonNa play out which I thought was really interesting. Especially now knowing how half the BOOT orders go and. I'm not spoiled. I'm just this is literally going based off the premier You know things. Stand out to me with Tony like this episode. How can we see Tony Running? And everyone thinking that's funny. We don't get the secret scene. Were Tyson's like braiding. The girls hair right. And it's like even though we're in season forty editor. Still know what they're doing and there's reasons that they're showing us these things. Why why. Why in two days time are we being shown on a beach when that seems so unimportant in comparison to so many things that could be showing just got to see old man that Tony? I love that scene so much not even Tony. I think my favorite was Kim because Kim was trying to be like the really placating mom and be like no it was. You're so good we could barely see you. You were the flash asked. Tony happy with Kim is found yourself in this. In this season. You know playing from the bottom for the first half guy. She has options finally her favorite accessed every time. She says a bigger smile on my face. I'm happy with her she's I was listening. Wnba last week and you guys are just like she's like the straight woman in the room just sort of sitting there like Oh my God who did I find myself in bed with right now. This is ridiculous. I'm Tony and Sandra and Jeremy is just I'm loving it I love. I love her reaction and she's just like sitting there looking like I thought I was. This was survivor. I don't know what I got myself into. Exactly how the Mike? One out take winners over one world everyday of the week. So Oh yeah yeah every day and then my last last have in this one I may. Mike may not talks about this every week. But it's the quotas. The number one thing I have in my mind is not who I wanNA work with two. I want out of that. I know all right go ahead. Pretty Sophie Yeah. It was Sophie That reads to me that she's GonNa be she's going to be really cutthroat and I think so far I mean looking at her voting history. Everything it's so far and I mean Sophie's like taking center stage where I feel like in. Her season coach was center stage and so for us. It's kind of on the sidelines. Which I know is not what people want to hear but coach was he was. He was the STAR THAT SEASON. Sophia's on the sidelines. To the point. Where you're like. Oh Chassis win this. I mean I know. He's like coach but like come on. They its annual like Sophie. Wins like just for the casualty? Personally what I feel like this season Sophie Kinda summer to Michelle's out there like I'm GonNa cut throats. I'm more confident. Now that I'm Gonna I'M GONNA win this game and nobody's GonNa suspect me because my first season which so far have been really working over. There was a really interesting secrets seen this week. Where I off Ben finds a snake at the water well and named weirdest just reaction. I wish I could play the sound but I like singing this song to himself about let go into the water will do. And these sees the snake and then he picks up the snake grouper style and he's like aw neat and you sometimes I forget. Just how big of a Dork bench? Bergen is years. And that's what I've really appreciated about this season. I think between like Rob Missing Him and you know the dad gummed atom of it all or even like him singing the peanut butter Jelly Song. Like he is this goofy data figure but not seeing you know he goes back to Cami. You Tell Sophie now. I'm about the snake. And they go to find this confessional where she says you know. I played last game out of fear and I felt to a certain extent. That cer- islet survivor. Pass me by this time. I make sure to break out of my comfort zone and make bigger plays and to that point. You know it sucks at. The scene wasn't shown on the on screen for various reasons. But I do think that's a great microcosm to your point as to what we're going to be seeing from Sophie especially if she's missing that Nerd Shield in. You'll wants the merchants. I think she's going to be looking for another partner very very soon. Yeah that's the number one thing. I think I'm looking out for for her. At least is. How is she going to react? Now that you'll see on that was such a pivotal moment. I think for games the very beginning. She's Yul Kwon and she's got this nerd. She'll which is a very interesting term that I have not heard before usually here meet shields specially Jeremy but she's got this nerd. Schiller Brain Shield. There's something he's not just physically strong but he's mentally. He's a threat and okay. Let's see now. Now he's gone. She had nothing to do with it. I wonder where Sophie goes. Or how does she navigate? I'm not greasy. Notre reaction is going to be. I don't know we didn't see the reactor to poverty and Sandra's who knows maybe we won't see the reaction to so weird. I think what the survivor Nancy drew on. The Internet have decoded is if you look at the press photos. There was a reward challenge. That wasn't Sean. Yeah the whole thing. Where you you bought the sandbags out of the net overhead using sticks than you use them to launch a target. So I can imagine that they found out out that reward and it's just too much of like a misplaced location to seamlessly edited into the immunity challenge off due to the cut challenge. We did not see them. React to such a good. I was GONNA say it's such a wild Lucien that just you know ten years ago. We're sitting here debating Sandra versus Harvey. And now here. We are ten years later and it's like we can't get include a scene with them getting out after what a what a crazy world. The APP that makes sense UNAIRED REWARD. Challenge the reaction a totally different location. And there's just no way of hiding that. Yeah I guess I'm surprised. They had a reward challenge. I talked about this in the first couple of episodes. I thought because you're offering rewards on the fire token menu than and like you just do away with reward challenges but apparently they. They had one in episode seven. For whatever reason I feel like I'm GonNa say you know? Yeah I mean they have to look into potentially if it's worthwhile I don't know maybe they wanted to go ahead Wesley. I didn't know what I was going to say that I was GonNa say I also watching the premiere? I didn't realize I remember seeing the of course. I think we're all very familiar now. With after Tyson the menu for the edge of extinction one token get you a pizza. Massive are peanut butter but the people in the actual non education don't have those options. There's not one token for a pizza. It's like the minimum like the least amount took like three which really limits your options. And I don't remember much food being on there. If any David David there was a bag of rice and I think there might have been a small bag of beans or something but it was more so this idea at least what I think. What they were trying to imply was like. Hey Pool your fire tokens to get things for the tribe. And it's an another reason why I'm unhappy that we weren't able to do exit. Press the season directly with the contestants is because I would just love to know from them like did they give any thought ever to possibly saying like. Kayla's put our tokens together and get a tarp or was it more so hey let's wait for a challenge where they'll give away a tarp for winning in the second episode. I Remember Rob Joke in poverty like. Yeah maybe I'll give my tokens the by Tarquini. Laugh like it's big job so at least for rob. It wasn't even considered one of those things. Didn't they have like a few seasons ago? Like a board with like you could delineate like tasks around camp. Remember this Oh go style and or something like a big like laundry list board where you could have like a checklist of like tasks to do around camp. And he could like put people's names by for some reason I was like what is going on. Forgot About The survivor Chore Wheel Last. Because I think that makes it was go sailing right. Because they've for some reason they use that opportunity to focus a lot more on the providers that was when they gave them less food because they thought okay really going to make people depend on the fishermen look at winners of war like they haven't scaled back the rations and you have everyone catching breadfruit and sea creatures. Every other week was there could catch them all the fish and win the game. I don't know ripper skin like a run for his money. Now you know. Between a heist being able to catch sea creatures Benz making friends with snakes like all of Rupert's greatest features are being filled out. People just eat the steel shoes and that's like and he's officially outdone. Do you see all the comments on twitter instagram facebook. Like where's Rupert Nausea and these were on ironic comments and I'm like. Do you understand the premise of the season right. Yeah yeah but I like Ozzy and I'm like okay. Yes survivor. I liked ozzy is going to be coming. Seasonally forty five. They can just hold out for a little rye longer. Survivor survivor. Redemption Island two point. Oh then I see. Yeah exactly Well Pretty I know that you have a quote game as well. So let's keep on keeping on with the sound bites. What have you got prepared? Okay so I went ahead and put together this little quote game how much we love quotes. I'll have quotes and it's called Hashtag. Adjust Day thirty nine things and this is a game that is going to. Of course. We're we're watching it all winter season and I thought you know with old school slaughter. It'd be nice to incorporate older school winners and I decided at some point this evolution of a game here I decided to I I was just going to do. The cast of winters at work quotes. But then I thought you know. Let's let's include all winters so I took one quote from every single winner. All thirty eight over thirty nine seasons and this is a quote that they gave on Day thirty nine. And I'm going to try a I'm gonNA give you guys the quotes and we're GONNA go back and forth trying to figure out who said the quote and we're not going to do all thirty nine of them and take forever. Honestly I don't I don't expect you guys get a lot of them because some of them are pretty difficult but to make it more of a game to game by it. Idea here is. Y- appoints forgetting the quote correctly being able to tell which winner on their winning season of this quote and categorize all thirty nine quotes into groups of three so there's thirteen thirteen and thirteen easy quotes medium quotes and hard quotes. On your turn you can decide if you WANNA go for an easy quote for one point a medium cool for two points for three points. You get a right. Of course you get the points. If you get it wrong your opponent will get the chance to steal and they get the points and said. I don't really know win will end the game. I was trying to figure out how to balance this because it could take forever and honestly I was like do the time. Is it like by certain amount? Maybe after twenty points but I thought well she's caught are so hard that you don't get any and we sit here going all thirty nine of them just like when you're sitting here eating clubs from thirty nine seats in the survivor so I don't know maybe we'll go from I fifteen. I don't know we'll see the edge of extinction nestle have like an undetermined ending point now. Sort of keep his entire. Maybe maybe we'll do like mercy. Whatever you want to start falling way behind. We'll just sort of cut it short. Let's let's make this like a little league game please okay. So I've got thirteen easy. Thirteen medium thirteen hard from all. This is one quote from each winner on their winning season. So you're not going to have poverty talking on here versus villains this Micronesia. Also in the event that the quote has any proper nouns like if they bring their own name into it or a winner a player on their own season or they mention their name or something that would just make an absolute dead giveaway. I was just GonNa say Blink of some of these are going to have a lot of the word blanks in it but nonetheless. We'll just we'll go through it so whenever you do Brian Headaches. Can you can flip off through sky. I thought about that you are. You're covering a lot of the older citizens so I'm like I need to make sure that. Not all of the hard goods worth. The most points are all home schoolers. We'll see how that goes. I winners memorized. That's true right down thirty four to go wrong. No okay so yeah. I don't know who wants to go first. You can. I'll give it to the guest here. I pick your easy medium hard on point to point to three point. Let's build up my competency crush it later. And let's start with an easy one and easy quote. Okay so I'll give you one of the easy quotes. Let's start with this quote blank and blank. They're trying out last night. They don't really know. What outlast really means if took will and grit and reflection and when. I got back in the game in three days. My game was better than two other players who had thirty nine days to do the same thing. Chris underwood ago I said. Now's like Mike Holloway. No no no the three. He's right that three days just gives it away. Yeah Yeah exactly. I wanted to know you know. That's part of the part of the difficulty. Curve of the game is of course some of these are going to give context that makes the debt obvious but there you go that was Chris Underwood from season. Thirty eight edge of extinction. All right all right. Mike I'M GONNA. I'm GONNA try a barometer for these medium questions to see exactly how medium they are okay to pointer okay. Here we go for two points the way the day is ending with this rain and being miserable is of course bringing on the miserable feelings of going to travel council. I think the vibe of the jury tonight is going to be pretty cold. You know they came out here with their second chance and the fact that they didn't get to finish it and we did. I don't think they're going to make this easy for us at all. I think the jury would love to see blanket ice squirm. Ooh Okay. I am going to say I think between the miserable rain second chance and the fact that only two names were mentioned. I'M GONNA go with amber. That is correct. Yeah there you go. That was amber on season. Eight all-stars talking about her and rob about to face the firing squad of the jury I mean she was correct and the weather was also pretty crummy as well. That was definitely one of the seasons. That was like the weather is perfectly attuned to the mood of the people around them and that was the true. I second chance season. Now what did he say? Second chance in there to like throw me off and I guess an embarrassment and she says second chance. I'm like this. This could possibly mislead you pay attention. There was only two names so I was really. I was looking at the desk. And I'm like this should be level two difficulty for these reasons and arguably outlined what I was thinking so man I guess you signed me up. I have to ask what a hard question okay I am going to go with. The man is okay later on. Is it here. We go as a superfan. This has been a dream of mine for a decade pretty much. I was kind of like a silent assassin quietly controlling this game. I found ways to connect with all these people all the while they were sent to the jury based on my decisions and I made it to the end. I can win this game if I bring my game. Who said I want to say John Cochran simply because you said Superfan but it's a hard question but I'm not going to second guess myself I'm GonNa say Cochran probably wrong. Kill me. Wish I could have like the quote play it with audience. I gross like. How do I do that but whatever tentacle it was not? It was not John Conway have a chance to steal. Now you do a chance or is it really is it. Tommy was not tom either. Nobody gets the points and the questions. According to the game it was if any guesses about other super fans have played because he says he or she said they're superfan literally guy. It was a guy and was from a season in the thirty S. it was Adam Klein. Nope it was Wendell how I didn't know it either. I was like. Oh Wow that is still okay. Well I feel like we have a proper barometer for easy medium and hard. This makes sense. This is why I was like. Oh what do I in this game? I think that's I think that's a good I think you've nailed it. What's easy Menard hardest completely? Sure as to what it is and it turns out not to be it. Let's let's let's go with another medium here another medium okay so this is a quote for a long time in this game. I felt completely alone with only myself. The trust I feel like I dug down into parts of me that I didn't know where there and now I know that there's no wall that I can come up against that. I can't either dig under it. Climb over it or heck I gotTA burst through it. There's a lot of people out there that don't like me because I have one so much so I better be ready for battle because I want the title a sole survivor and a million dollars. Don't like me because I have one so much. I mean that has so many different meanings. I guess my my knee jerk reaction is going to be Mike Holloway. Yeah that's my final answer. Mike is Correct. I'll admit that the first part did not sound like Mike Holloway. Until you got into the I one so much because I don't know I feel like Mike Hallway because he was edited in such a Hero Lake capacity that. I can't imagine thank you like. I know people don't like me because you know of the journey that I had exactly easy easy all right Wesley. Turn all right Mike is up four to one game media track. That's up here okay. Medium quotes medium code. Time what it boils down to is. Did I come here for forty two days to starve to live in the type of environment that I've lived in to make those types of sacrifices to give somebody like blank a million dollars or did I come here to play. This game. Deserves a million dollars. Can you repeat the first six words that what boils down to is? Did I come here for forty two days to start out Tina Wesson? Your I heard that right. That was Tina Western survivor. Australia outback again. Of course the major key indicator being the fact that she was the only one to play for forty two days and she. She has a funny way. She ends the quote. This is the last thing. She says birth before she goes to final tribal like. Did I come here to play this game and media and I thought that was funny. She says instead of like I don't know if you score matair it's not Monica culpepper going to third person but it's still like a weird version of first person and the funny thing is she says to give somebody like blank blank was Elizabeth Hasselbeck. There's Elizabeth thought it wasn't cold. I was like yeah I thought it would have been colby but it was nine. He Says Yeah. I know so I was like was this like harshly quote from like previously. I don't know but either way that's what she says. So no he's because I think hasselback goes out thirty nine. And then you have keith fame. He goes out of forty forty one or the other right. That's this is a quote from day thirty nine but in this case the day thirty nine was not the end of the season. No all right. Mike. You're you gotTA risk it to get the biscuit. Let's let's let's try another hard one and let's see if we can pair better this time. That would wendell okay. Oh all right. Here's a quote no matter what situation in life you're in may be down but you're not out. That's a huge lesson. I've learned here for the jury tonight. I plan on just being myself trying to be a nice person all American girl next door so it just kinda depends on the questions they ask and then how I need to react to it the all American. Yeah girl next door ooh okay so I mean I have an initial thought. I'm just scanning through people in my mind. I mean female winter yet. Can you read the quote one more time no matter what situation life you're in you may be down but you're not out? That's a huge lesson. I've learned here Jerry tonight. I plan on just being myself trying to be a nice person the all American girl next door so it just kind of depends on the questions they ask and then how I need to react to it. I mean I I'm GonNa go with Natalie white just as a knee jerk. Reaction has not carax's my matteoli whites. Can I steal you can steal? So I'm a maybe it's because I haven't watched two seasons aired. I'm GonNa Guess Danny Bow Right from Guatemala. That is correct thinking. She's so she's a huge fan of Kansas City. On what other woman would refer to themselves as all American girl that was my. That was my only guess Not Because I've seen any time yup I wouldn't be able to probably pin that he that it'd be honest down but yeah that was Danny Boat. Right on season eleven. Guatemala Nice unique taken the lead in one round. I know I know all right now. The crush. My confidence Let's throw another medium one in their idiom quote. All right here it is. I don't think it's about the money tonight. I think it's about the title of sole survivor. That's all blink wants and if that's what blink wants that's what I gotTa make sure blank does not get. There's not a day that didn't go by that. I was trying to focus on. What's the best way for me to get rid of blank? I didn't hide behind immunity necklace. I never read safety. I had to take care of myself. Somebody who speaks up. Soften the third person Reread it if you like. No I'm just trying to think of who talk about himself in the third person besides Russell Hands obviously did not win and it should not be eligible for this no matter how many times he says he should I'm GONNA take a shot and I really don't know the Gorn time. I don't think it's about the money tonight. I think it's about the title of sole survivor. That's all blank wants. And if that's what blink wants that's what I gotTa make sure blank does not get. There's not a day that didn't go by that. I was trying to focus on. What's the best way for me to get rid of blank? I didn't hide behind no meeting necklace. I never had safety. I did take care of myself. I have no idea I know at least has to be season. Twelve onward Town I drink you on. We have third person. This could have been hard question unless Mike comes in with an easy answer. I'm just gonNA throw name Thanh hers og probably not todd hers by any idea for this might be so Wesley you were closed by talking about Russell hands because I believe that Sandra is talking about Russell hands in this quote. Yes it is. It was fine. It was survivor. Heroes vs Villanova. Whenever the final thing she said before she went to travel council in the lead now six points that was her. She's saying all Russell Wants Russell wants that's why I gotTa make sure Russell does not get. That's the one quote that really stuck out in my head and it's all the other Russell stuff she was doing day. Thirty nine I haven't watched China's scenario. I was kind of like okay. This species haven't seen recently but now that's not the case. I should have known. Well let me let me stick with a happy medium here. This seems to be a pretty good place right now. Very comfortable in the middle of the two okay. So you'RE GONNA go from medium quote all right quote is being here and knowing that I'm final three. I'm like okay. There is a frequent shot. I made little adjustments here and there and I fought my way to my spot here and what. I needed to win challenges. That's exactly what I did. I hope that people can see that. I not some timid girl who's glided along but rather somebody who is strategically made moves this whole game. I believe that is the one and only meech fits Michelle Fitzgerald at. His Michelle Fitzgerald is asking same thing. And it's like well he's perfectly until like every confessional from her this season which is like. I don't WanNA prove someone needs to prove that I'm here to play. I know sort of. It's sort of a great way to end her winning game than leads right into winters. I war so Michelle is not in the finale. I'd be shocked honestly. I'd I'd be here for. I think she's getting a lot of content right now and I think I would not be surprised if like this is the story of Michelle whether she wins or loses as Ossetia's to search for someone who a lot of people were like she shouldn't have won in the first place. I think that it's just such a big story. And it's been mentioned so much that I can. I can see that you know thing happening. Especially if the finale as a six seven people at the end she has a larger chance of that. At this point the modern day I would say almost narrative Simona poverty except one maybe Cook Islands to sort of A. She's maybe or maybe not poverty but she's not as she's definitely grieving that she's quite threatening when given the chance and I don't know I'm looking forward to it. I think she's definitely going to go far. I've said she was kind of the dark horse winter. Pick of the season. She's sort of proven that to be the case. Watcher out Wendell. That's what's next. Oh one hundred percent happening that has to be next. I don't know if that's an extra but she is definitely in the best will come down and sits common yeah. You don't get Wendell's edit without him getting like love that I love the classic classic villain at it you kind of love to hate it or love to love to love it. I like it. I'm looking forward to it. I personally join Wendell more than I think the average person so even if he gets taken down which definitely is going to happen. I'm here for his Sake airport. Yeah all right is it. Yes easy quote all right. Let's get some points in guessing. Fire Tokens in the bank. Yeah this quote is I am proud to be the last blink in the game always been. Blink was probably one of the only kids that law school that grew up at a trailer. But you know it made me who I am made me learn how to go. Make MYSELF BE SOMEBODY. And that's the same out here and survivor. I mean I've had to do everything but a back live out here to make it to the final three. You know what? It's one of the three people I think has the best shot wings. Game minutes nick. Wilson that is correct. Wilson. You know what that was such A. I love that season. I cannot say how much I love. Diverse Goliath top. Top to up to. Yeah I would definitely say it's up there. I don't know if I'd say top two for me but it's all up ten. It's it's tough to for me. I think it helps that I discovered are half the season at the same time. Like an association with yeah it was and then Christian. Becky speaks my love language. So ones and zeroes that love language. He's like let's let's make another hard one. Let's see what out. Okay here's the quote and I apologize. Finding finding a really good friend is worth more than a million dollars. Friendships like the one I have with blank. I think that rare I tried to play the game with as much integrity as I could. I know I failed in a lot of respects but hopefully people won't hold it against me that I beat them interesting. Okay so this is someone who has a really like most friendship with somebody at the end and the more time finding a really good friend is more than a million dollars. Friendships like the one. I HAVE WITH LINK. I think are that rare. I tried to play the game with as much integrity as I could. I know I failed in a lot of respects but hopefully people won't hold it against me that I beat them is it. Jt Jt nope now through the list of people at the end besides the amber. Yeah this is a tricky on. Actually it's like oh listen to be like wait. Were they really think they were friends? Eh I really feel like this can be from a middle season the seasons. I don't worry Austin a while. Oh now we already said you'll say yours. Eight final answer is already said you'll before. Is that already been an answer? I don't believe who said you'll you'll because I think he's talking about Ozzy. Okay that was that was. You'll you'll quantity. That was not about Ozzy that was actually about becky. Oh really it's the I this is. My weakness is the middle seasons. Even though I've gotten these answers assay weakness. No NO NO I. I'm just guessing based on like basic knowledge. I haven't watched since I haven't got some on the channel so now now that my makes sense that last part with the integrity given what he said this episode of you know. I've lied more in these however many days than I did in the entirety of Cook Islands. I do remember that you'll was someone who despite being liberal does. The Godfather did really try to play like a very straightforward game. He actually had a lot of difficulty lying. You know it's funny. He was saying I lied way. More than the last seven episodes have in all of Cook Islands and he ends Cook Islands season. This was the very last thing he said. It wasn't really that that you know in some ways. It's sort of isn't wasn't very it wasn't that person was a bit generic. I thought so I was like I. It is hard on but he talks about playing with a lot of integrity and he even gets very humble which is very you'll thing failed and a lot of respects. And it's like you'll come on like frigging you're the God. Yes you failed in a lot of respects your yoke want so anyway. Yes Wesley you are now. In the lead to store it is nine two eight. Oh let's do. Let's do an easy question. I just want to build that lead on their on. Okay Question Time Lincoln. I pretty much own this game. She made it all the way to the end and Blenkiron made it almost all the way to the end and blank to be in the final two of this season. It's a serious accomplishment. I feel like I can stand up tall and be like I am a survivor. Warmer time run through that one more time Lincoln. I pretty much own this game. She made it all the way to the end and blank. I made it almost all the way all the way to the end in blank to be in the final two of this season. It's a serious accomplishment. I feel like I can stand up tall and be like I am a survivor. So has to have a female lose. The game has to be not season. Twenty Aches Not Tony Seasons to ask me like a season before twenty out on interests I interest file. Three Cook Islands of Twos her the end her at the end driving people want against females and final twos without looking up a list cheating but I have the list of the winners. Have anything else female? I don't do. I'm GONNA take a shot in the dark here and say RS. Beating Double D Danny Effort. That is incorrect. Now for Mike. Tie The game for one point. Do you have any idea who might have said that quote so I believe it. Harvey refers to Amanda Going to the end of China. So I'm going to say that's her talking about infants versus favorites on the in Micronesia fans. There was talking about on Manda Camel. Yeah Yeah Yeah. She didn't actually see a man to go to the end of China. But I guess she just heard asa just heard the great. Brian Amanda Pretty. Well time winner all right so I learned my lesson. I'm going back to the medium questions. I've touched that hot stove giving rookie given points. Yeah I'm loaded all right. So the next question medium quote all down and hurting myself today reminded me just how human I am reminded me. Just how much of a game? This is what that is is saying. All right look like it. Don't have to be Superman. You don't have to be a superhero and you'll be okay. That's our friend there you go. Yeah you're your served it up to me and then you probably slipped on the glass. That was Irish. Briscoe ceus falling down on day. Thirty nine he gets stitched up which is quite a unique date thirty nine. I'd say all of all those assets. There's there's a there's definitely like conspiracy theory that because that happened. That's why they instituted the final three. I don't believe it but some people are necessarily. I'd say it was more like if anything. That's really terry lack getting to the final two. Yeah exactly all right now. It's eleven to nine. You're down two points You know we haven't touched upon any of the I four winners. I feel like you're doing that purpose. Maybe not even hiding. We haven't done the first five winners. I'm sorry the team I'm a himmy of the medium question question okay. You didn't question. Is this game and I are a lot like two peas in a pod. You know being in the blank I've been through a lot of battles in life and tonight is going to be battle because blankets a good talker and blink. One four immunity challenges. I Games about providing for my family more than anything else. At the end of the day I need to bring a paycheck home to my wife and my kids my two kids get aw- can phone affront friend. Now I'm GonNa say I'm trying to remember how many they won? I WANNA see Bend Oregon. Guessing. Chrissy one four. Yeah I'M GONNA go back and I'm just guessing on how many Chris Wanna though. Yeah that was. Benji began. Talks Ryan's good talker and Chrissy did win for me in any challenges and he said being in the mail being in the Marines. Well sorry I got caught in the fourth meeting each by my mind. Go on in four tied up right now. Yes alert on all the lead. Come on media. We'RE GONNA run out and go new new medium quote. This year has been kind of a tough year free. I just recently got divorced and you know coming out of a really tough marriage after almost four years you look back and you're like man. I got married to this person. Wow It really doesn't work so coming out here and having to make decisions quickly day in and day out and have them work. Get to sit here at the end of the day and say wow. These decisions worked out really well. I have definitely gained some of my confidence back. I believe I remember this because I believe it's the only personal contact. We got from Kim Spradlin throughout all of survivor one world. That is correct. Yeah you may be right there. It's the only been gone only members you said her finding out like oh she was divorced. That's interesting I had no idea. She was like a wedding shop bridal on her. Yeah Yeah that's the last quote that she has or one world before she goes off and wins. It's probably the most personal thing she gets. It obviously ties into a profession. And now they go. It's not. It's not too gamy which is surprising. Given how gaming and how many options she had been the one who when the pig got loose in the camp she's like this could be really good for my strategy. Yeah I love the duality of Kim here in one world compared. I mentioned this earlier. And now she's like on the bottom flustered and it's like totally lacking control and she's sort of getting her voting now as we go into the merge which. I'd love to see it's really cool to see like arguably one of the best players ever who played probably the strongest games driver in history just from a sheer dominant in control perspective. To come back have no control. He totally flustered. And and yeah. It's frigging Kim Spradlin. Absolutely all right. Wesley go eleven so getting close down to the wire here. Which category has the on a business trip line? Which one has the million dollar written for me? Yeah Bonus tied up here now Let's go with them once again. You have eleven and Mike S. Thirteen crack. Thanks Mike Foley to get my own questions that I would be winning. Odds go with how many meetings have left doing don through a lot of the medians at saying we have one two three or five. GimMe a hard one. Okay to take the lead. I thought today more and more about my emotional breakdown at tribal. I WANNA keep my composure tonight. The last thing I wanNA do seem like this complete nutjob crazy emotional crying. Because I think that somebody who doesn't deserve to get to the end so I'm going to try to go in perhaps a bit more logically than emotionally. I cried at the final. Oh my Gosh I'll tell you it's not Richard Ethan. Happier Brian They said I thought today more and more about my emotional breakdown at tribal. Yeah I know really o exposing the fraud I am when it comes seasons. I haven't really watched I really. There's not like like half points and perhaps I didn't. I didn't balance the game around half are all man. I really so everyone listening. I don't remember who cried at the trial for the finals. And they'll kill me. I'm trying to think somebody possibly would cry. Which is hard to say. Still GonNa say Denise Okay that is not correct as nothing stately. I was thinking Malcolm going home. She cried now at Lisa's rather STOIC. Nfl Games actually the my dear. I am sorry Wesley this. This is Sophie. Clarke is Clark that was Clark talking about when Oswaldo spoiled little girl at the final. It was yeah he was pretty bad. Also probably one of the more emotional moments Sophie's time on South Pacific other than her. Maybe yelling at Albert every other episode Jeff. That like nothing changed after after the talk at tribal council. Yes they can't help you SOFI so my initial was to reduce it to fifteen. If we want we can try and go to twenty eight sixteen to eleven. That would mean that might did win here. I don't know why keep going. I mean I'm good to move on if you are Wesley. Yeah let's let's move on though. I am curious where does where does Brian Woods which category to Brian? I did avoid saying Brians all INCA I know gimmie three points and hard it was. He was in the hard actually. Ethan and Brian. We're all in the hard category brassieres quote what I was GonNa say. Brian's quote was this is strictly game to me. It was about building relationships and cutting their losses to move onto the level but the relationships that you build were necessarily real test of the last couple of days things have gotten pretty touch and go and there might have been some opinions for him and how cutthroat I am a little scary to be sitting up there in the spotlight while you're interrogated to me. It's hilarious because right after that quote. Klay then says. Oh everyone here on the island. Just love Brian. He's a real class act and I'm like unless you know any read on the sky. Pretty what do you think is like the what? What end quote surprise you the most from your hand these people? Well I'd say Tyson's was with different only because it was easily the most vague that I literally workshop from his day. Thirty eight quote. I didn't even use his his was so generic that didn't even have any personal tone to it at all from versus water. I love Tony's I didn't use Tony's it was. He was an easy category. You guys definitely a dodged a Lotta easy questions. Tony's was great he does. He's like this game. Tony it so many names Tony in trouble. Tony in charge Tony in the driver's seat Tony and control but today I feel like I'm Tony Million Dollars. And then he talks about needing he wants to get pink chandelier for his daughter back home which I liked him yeah. I think it's really interesting I can. I can send them over if you ever want to have. Its Award Duck. I have evolved thirty nine but it's interesting. Most of them is less than they say and they really do. Talk a lot about all different kinds of aspects of the survivor. You know whether it's their journey to get there the friendships. They made the strategical games. They played just like the experience of being on survivor. In the first place I like Sanders is very much a sandra quote. Where she's like I don't want I'm GONNA do my best to make sure Brussels away and then right after that. She Burns his hat in the episode Pearl Islands. Oh it's a little bit more generic quote was like to this day. No one has ever put my name on a piece of parchment. It writes tonight and give it to give me the money. A little is a good person so I don't know why she doesn't deserve it more than I do or why she does deserve more than I do. I think that's what this will come down to is a three to four vote. It's going to be something real close. Tom Westman was very much like eighty and Tom doesn't actually have like a great read. Surprisingly one of the last things he says is Katya so likable. She Sasha character you know each people just say you know what? I've had enough of Tom and his immunity necklace. I'M GONNA give it to the one who was able to make it there by writing Tomsk sales. It's interesting if he's like providing you know. There's some doubt whether Tom's going to win. And I actually think one of my favorites was probably Natalie White simply just saying I think there may be a little bit of strategy involved with Russell making us feel like we're not gonNA win or that. We don't have a chance but I have news for him. I'm not going to give up. I'm just going to explain to the jury. I don't work the same way Russell. That would clearly not a work for me. The girls that were aggressive. They got eliminated early. My strategy was to be myself and at the end of the day. I wasn out to get anybody or make anybody look bad. Russell made it clear that he was okay with making people look bad. I like that quote. I thought it was perfectly describes the season and that's a perfect set of two opposite while it was a surprise at the time to see Natalie's Wayne and while the edit itself in the narrative did not necessarily speak to that this at least as a moment that is going to foreshadow what happens at that final tribal council. Natalie is at least able to verbalize the strategy. She had in working with Russell which is more than Mecca. Do you know if you treat Natalie's game and this is I mean it's half joke with like how serious retreating alleys game almost like you're watching edge of extinction season hurting. Chris are very similar finale. Where it's like. Who is this person? And how come it seems like they're GonNa win all of a sudden because Russell really like blows up his game last couple episodes. But really the finales where you're like. Why feel like you should win based on the past like thirteen episodes this one? He's in India like more so than normal And but now over here like who who is she. And why does he much? He's GonNa win same thing of the edge of extinction. Who is Chris? And why do I feel like no one else has a chance separate data? Also Chris Somehow even had more screen time Inc. professionals in La. Why did in all seasons episodes actually speaking of Russell? I wanted before we move onto our next game. I want to take a second to talk about. I think the other big news item of this episode. Which is Sandra deciding to leave the edging extinction? It has lit the survivor Internet on fire. I think The the larger fan base has really dug into her including some alumni players. That have just been mentioned. Some have really trying to boil it down to like well. She didn't quit. She just left the edge of extinction. Some been applauding. Her have been decrying her for it. Wesley where do you stand on your feelings as to what Sandra did this past episode? So so it's hard because Sandra has won twice and I'm very mixed on it so like one hand. She's won twice. Like what does she have to prove She knows she's not GonNa win the challenge so I know that's one side of the argument there side is like you know like those. Tina Wesson was out there. Was she ever left? Edgy extinction. Now she would have stayed out until the end and then and then some so I totally get both sides. The argument I think I think writing is probably somewhere in the middle. I wish Sandra if you look at the edge of extinction season I don't know how familiar I know she watches the show but I don't know she like knows all his numbers. Dad's extinction challenge in thirty eight was on day seventeen. I think she voted out a sixteen seventeen around so like tradit- traditionally based on that other season the challenge next day in two days. I I was FRY. She didn't just try the first challenge and then raised the Flag Allah Keith. Or Wendy for Magic's things like after that. I challenge okay. Well this isn't for me. I tried it once. You know. Fair enough I was really surprised by that but on the other hand I think I don't know I'm very mixed on it but I wish he'd given one challenge shot because maybe they did something different. This is I mean. We don't know Right Pretty. And what do you think about it? All what did you. What do you think over here? I mean I'm also very weird category in that I just generally as a reality. Tv Fan. I really don't begrudge quitters that much because I do feel like there is so much that happens. Offscreen especially in a show like survivor. That we really don't know about like new has come out about you. Know Austin. The first official person to quit survivor like his body was shutting down due to the fact that he sold is closed the first day. There's the if the story about Purple Kelly. Being put it by wardrobe in just a bikini in cold rainy. Nicaragua which caused her body to shut down. So like I feel like it's it's always tough to just have the blanket rule of like. Yes let's decry people who quit the game 'cause like then are you going to say that about Jazz Maresca? Are you going to say that about like it's it's it's put an echelons but so in the first place even if she did quit? I'm not someone that's going to be like. Quitting is bad and you should never quit the game. I really do feel like I'm going to go off a point that you made Wesley. I feel like Sandra was fundamentally different from every person who walked into this season by saying I have nothing to prove like you have people like Michelle Denise I WanNa prove my style of Gameplay can work I WANNA prove that my win was deserve the first time you have people like Natalie and Tyson on the edge of extinction to win the challenge. You have someone like Ethan on their almost like prove something to himself of more than anything and I think Sandra just none of the above like she had a little statue she just spent thirty nine days in Fiji. She knows how respected she is in the community and she knows that essentially all she would do is sit out there for twenty three days and you know have the experience. I suppose and beyond the jury but it might not be worth it to her at that point so like. I'm totally fine with what she did. I I'd rather have this than you know. Really just dour depressed. Sandra for the rest of the season for what it's worth I feel like I don't know if the show necessarily approved of her choice but I feel like they gave her so much respect for you know between Jeff's talk with dull Ross and the way the scene was shown I feel like maybe someone left in a different way. It could have been shown in a much more like disgusted tone of like. Oh look at this person like with Austin. All this person has the audacity to go home so at the end of the day. Production is sort of fine with the decision that I sort of them in line with them there. I was going to say I talked about this briefly. Video made title the long history of Quitters I actually had to amend their video because whatever reason CBS gave me a copyright took it down. And then I put it back in like a year later and I was able to talk more about the edge of extinction it though so it's like it's kind of kind of a nice thing to do because quitting has become a very heavy theme of the last few seasons with edge of extinction now winners at war because the theme of what of the extinction is like. What are you GonNa quit or are you going to tough it out and it asks you that like when I get to the island the the mass the white mass has little plaque there. And it says you know when fear or loneliness sets in. You must find the resolved overcome and then it says if at any point you wish to end your journey you can raise the sail on a boat. Pick you up and for me. I'm like okay. I play so many games in the in this case we're talking board games more there you so technical and finicky with wording you gotta be like. Okay. What exactly. What's the literal definition of that word? And how does that apply to the game at hand? Was the mechanic here so on some level my video. I said that I don't really consider people who quit Stephen quitters. Because like Stigma Ron. Quitting is like they purposely chose to remove themselves from the game regardless of whether production let them or wanted them to and so. I would say that on the literal definition of the word. Quitting senator quit. She did quit the game. She walked out. She laughed but I think that. I think that it's okay. I don't think that it has the same stigma around with the edge of extinction because one the producers are allowing you to do it. It's a built a mechanic from the producers created the game. It's cool if you do. It wasn't they didn't really want Corporal Kelly. It's an option you can do. You can quit at any point. Why they're not giving you the chance and they will obviously look down upon. If you do edge of extinction illegal. It gets cool if you do it. We understand that. That's sort of part of the theme and the elements. I also don't really like her in the same category as the rest of them walked away without giving the option and honestly like from realistic. Practical standpoint like yes. Andrew obviously is like she's not zero percent chance that she doesn't come back into the game but there's a pretty good chance she doesn't come back and best she just going to sit on the edge of extinction for the next few days The next few weeks I don't know if they make more money or being on the edge than they do if they were to walk away. Sandra's pretty much I like that. It's very much in line with sanders character and it's sort of a funny. There's some poetic nece to it with herb. She's very much there just to get to get the money and get out and she didn't get the money so she's out and that's very much in line. She's not playing with the cameras. She is very true to yourself. She got there she didn't win. She's like you know what I don't stand a chance I don't care I'm done and also some level. It's kind of Nice that the two only two time winner is now gone. So we're I sure you'RE GONNA get another time winner. I think that's a cool element. That's now Andre percent added to the season. Were definitely getting another two time winner like even if it was unlikely that Sandra was going to get beyond the first few votes anyway which she surprisingly did. It's just cool to like. We're going to have another time winner in the history of survivor. Even though it's Kinda going to happen recalling the odds of it happening where ninety five percents anyway This is something that one hundred percent that's been spent ten years in the making and this is going to be really really awesome especially considering who's left so yeah. I totally agree that as well that I think with the extinction mechanic built in. It doesn't necessarily incentivize you to quit but it's almost like putting you in a different game and in that game. It's a article. Hold it out like the main game happened. They got voted out. They kind of lost. I don't think education is necessary for the game part of it like I get for TV. Episode part of it can make the production better and some level. Obviously not from an editing. Sometimes but I do understand why they might want included particularly with forty twenty returning winners people love to see over the span of twenty years. It's nice to have Ethan on the screen and even for a little bit. I get what people like that? Why they made that call. I want to know is I'm curious. Knows like and this is kind of Randall. Feel but I never I never did. They let people quit when they went to redemption island on those that had happened because they do on edge of extinction he's restriction is basically like a cousin of redemption island or. Nobody ever quit from it. What did you? What did have the same stigma? Quitting Redemption Island is image of extinction. People both got voted out. They went there. They're pretty much like the lobby waiting around waiting to get back. They don't have a great chance of getting back in and honestly it's probably tougher on some level to get back. Shallan because you have to go on a winning streak. So I don't know I was like I wonder there's questions that I have people throwing at me when I made that video months ago And I was like yeah. This really makes me sit back and question like all right. What does it mean to be a quitter and like how big of a deal is that? Are there differences between quitting on certain parts of the game under certain circumstances? Do I think less of somebody if their of their legacy in this case one of the biggest legacies in the history of the show for quitting the game do I think less of Sandra and I'm like I don't know I haven't really fully formed an opinion as a now? It's only been a few days but I mean honestly probably don't I don't really I don't think it's up to compare redemption and extinction. Sandra would have probably stayed on redemption because again if you look at the challenges there you have on paper a fifty percent chance of winning that immediate challenge and yes. That's another point. The next day might be a different shots but also those were more equalizing challenges. You know that was like shuffleboard. Throw the ball kyle. This one is what it would be one in nine and looks and it looks like it. Looks like it's going to be very similar to the first edge of EXTINCTION CHALLENGE FROM SEASON. Thirty eight which was like do an obstacle course than do the snake maze at the Arizona. You have much better. Chances of surviving on Redemption Island on one on one than you would amongst this big gaggle of people even if you do stay in the game after you lose an edge of extinction author. I re watched both edgy. Extinction challenges recently and I feel like the one that Chris one was very favored. It's on for someone who is more Billy Crystal Joe but I feel like the first one. The Devon's one. It really seemed almost anybody could have won. That challenge seem very fair and balanced. Aubrey blew everyone out of the water till she got the snake. Wendy Wendy almost came back a wendy almost one. I mean I think for except for Chris and Rim even though the snake at the snake maze. Everyone won that challenge. I felt like it was very fair. Which is why. I wish Sandra had tried. At least the first one is if it's similar to that one like Sandra King got to be the fastest US snake maze and just be patient. Because if you're a patient that snake maze which is hard to do you're like oh I want you back in the game This is so exciting crazy. But since I'm you know I feel like everyone had a good shy but the second one would Chris want. It was definitely a favorite toward people who rebel like Chris. And Nacho especially that first leg right with the rail yourself through the rest round the post like I know that that help like half the people immediately I mean. She wouldn't obviously what John just coming. Very defeated I get it sometimes. Eludes especially with the stakes. This high and you know you you just you make quick quick snap decisions. Maybe I don't think shortbread said from what I've seen. I never now by doing the same challenge that they did for edge of extinction be wrong but I was in the Promo for that except for same challenge that they did for the halfway point. So yeah I mean it's like she could. She could have probably stood a better chance than ever in any challenge. GonNa do on the bright side. She gets a hold. Pre jury tripped herself. Which I'm assuming randy on twitter is like she's now the mayor of Ponderosa. I mean she might be president ponderous of the one person city. I mean considering that she just went from thirty six days in Fiji on an island to two weeks out of the game and now playing again for sixteen days like I think she needs a vacation so we can take some Orono right now. It is too bad. We'll never see here. We will never see her on the jury. She either one or she just missed. The jury a always will always remain to be seen. Because I'm assuming that she really is going to retire. After this what Sandra on a jury would be like maybe from Iowa when we saw her reacting in the booth with rob. Maybe that's like the closest approximation will get in terms of her color commentary. Which if that's the case that I'm happy. We got at least that sneak peek into it. Oh Yeah Yeah. It was silly but I loved it the Robin Sandra reacting. Well let's get into our final game here so we're going through survivor history. Let's keep on keeping on here unfortunately with the pre merge ending. We're going to have to say goodbye to be very noticeable. Stolen crossbones tribal immunity idol. That you know Wendell tried to throw to Jeff that Sophie May Jeff come get. It's been very very prominent since the very beginning we have had forty tribal immunity idols through the years. So I thought we'd review a few of them in this game called idle chatter. Basically if you all want to follow along I have created a gallery too to bring up some images that will discuss two bit dot l. y. Slash idle chatter Ideo L. Chatter basically. I've handpicked a select number of idols from over the years in survivor. And we'll go around the horn. I want each of us to write this idol on a scale from one to five you can read it in terms of artistic ability you can read it in terms of beauty. You can rate in terms of creativity. World is your oyster. The brushes in your hands but won't will sort of review the more notable idols through the years. And see how old skull and crossbones compares to it let's start with the skull and crossbones because again super notable to fire tokens for is they tried to poke it out and they weren't able to grab them so unfortunately that did not become a mechanic but still of one to five. How are you rating the season? Forty tribal idol. Okay so I can say. I can't personally say investigated tribal idols too heavily. I'm looking at what we have here for this length that you provided. I don't actually I actually. Kinda like the winters Rydell. I liked the art department. They've done they had the powder keg with voting earn and they got a war hammer. Torch snuffed all right. The idol tribal is started on crossbones and the skull with what looks to be to superglued. Buyer Tokens Alley. Can't take them out. I think nick confirmed that on twitter. He tried to and couldn't do it. I love the fact that they've added these little dangling chains. I wonder if they're actually made viren. Rusted arm while not just art department but I kinda like it. I think that it speaks to the theme of winters at war a little. It's a little bit common like skull and those are so in survivor you know. It's like a very typical motif. You see all over just exile Enda Ghost Island you see these skull and crossbones but I think it's fitting back that we have forty season so I kind of like it probably give it a gosh. So we're GONNA break them in Pascagoula four and a half out of five all right. We can do that. Allow that sort of star. Remain calm being too generous air. But I'm curious to see what you have to say. Personally you know. What would the theme the only down the only thing I agree pretty biomedical waste? Said only thing I think is sox is that they couldn't take heart tokens out of the is. I. I think it should have been most to ever won. And they fought with a fire tokens but otherwise no I would actually say this is probably top level for me. I like it if it's the theme. It's all exploding barrels. We've seen just I dunno it just fits in. I'd give it a five out of five. I can't think of much else I would. I would expect out of this idol for the season. Definitely quite seriously looking at the next one. I want to like I don't know if I want to judge it based on that it's also interesting because this is not the first skull themed Travel Attlee Pat Right Pearl Islands. Had the school on the act's I think it was like a similar skull on a sphere. But I don't know just really liked this idea of like the skull and crossbones on. Its on its. I'm going to give it five at simply. Because when they split into three tribes and they had to give away to idols. One per one tribe got the skull and the other one just got two bones and I just that really pickles me. That tickles my funny bone. I'M GONNA give it says. Having the fire tokens the is as if like whoever the skull was they died. Because the fire tokens somebody somebody somebody. GonNa lose. Just because a fire tokens. That's kind of what they tried selling with. You all like I mean in that case. Is that sort of like a Jacob Marley thing from a Christmas Carol of like. Don't be like be. Don't spit fire tokens. Spend at once. Exactly all right. Let's move on here. Now let's go from the most recent season all the way back to the beginning. We are looking at the survivor. Borneo trial idle in all of its glory Wesley. Give me your thoughts here. You know what it's completely terrible. I mean like if I've you okay in my thinking about this oh I mean I'm living near two thousand. I'm looking at it or am I thinking about it from twenty twenty. It's very important. I mean look at it from a twenty twenty perspective. Okay twenty this guy I mean. It's so goofy if anyone has not seen this image. Y'All look at this idol. I you know I I just re watch this obviously regard season wrestling. I don't remember this very much. Being shown maybe it may take like standard definitions harder to see. But it's just it's just so good thing like supersedes definition. Yeah it's just like what? What is this like a little person act on is it? Like Ria. Sets is hard for me talents image. Yeah I feel like them medically with Borneo. This thing does not work at all but oh I don't know I don't know what they're going for here. Maybe there's some sort of culturally relevant in any way with the colors and the faces. Mike go ahead and Mike. The colors are really what sticks out to me. I wonder if it was honestly a thing of like okay. Paint this as brightly as possible so that we can catch it on camera though I feel like to a certain extent like it's very representative of just like the gung-ho ad-hoc style of survivor Borneo like this feels like pinnacle survivor Borneo along with the Gong and the chest of money and him talk in the island. It's allowed you to do. After he always by tree mail being tribes will receive mail every time for their immunity challenge. It's a nice little so the from that perspective I'm GonNa give it. I'm GONNA give it like one and a half is it is fun. Gli But it has value you know. We'll doesn't all tribal have value. Mike I suppose so I suppose equal away but do you guys think are you. What are you reading it? I want to say a one out of five. We're considering what's the bottom of the bottom and turns idols. I can't I don't know of any I'll it's worse than this though. Some may argue. I'M GONNA say this one of five. Yeah I don't I I. I know perspective. It's pretty Dang goofy. I'M GONNA WANNA to hire into too hard on earlier seasons. We're updraft I'M GONNA give it like maybe two right all right. Well let's move on here. Ruben a bit further in survivor history. I'm going to season twelve exile island. Not a Lotta people might remember this exile island sort of had like a Zombie theme to it before we actually had people coming back into the game. They had this idea of like UN dead people so this idol is like a pike with three Zombie. Head sticking onto it and heads. Yeah so it's really interesting. I mean I think the shrunken heads themselves are like Garish. And I do like them. Appropriating the culture from this perspective. But it's gotta be weird to keep around your camp having three little heads. Caesarian NIGHTMARE FUEL. Is You have you know? Only having a bad day holy crap. Yeah imagining scary. Imagine Shane powers going slowly crazy because nicotine withdrawal and then having to stare at those three faces looking back at it so I don't know this one this one. I'm going to give this one a two. I like it a little more than obviously the Borneo idle. But it's freaky and I guess that's the point but I don't know how much I want to be. Freaky might be freaky. I want them to be sought out. We don't want to be like Joanna from the Amazon and wants to deliberately push away the idle May. I might have to go with my take away. I don't know I'm thinking I have to go lower than the two I gave for ex for. Borneo might give it like at least a one. Maybe I'm not a huge fan of it. I think it looks crazy. Maybe too crazy and not in like a goofy way. I'd just be right and I don't that I just intentional Matt saying I just give up immunity every time you know. She handed this on on your way to exile island. Yes know I I wouldn't give it. I wouldn't go as low as premium here but I would probably say to stick with the two two half an hour. I'd say to all right. Let's move on Moon. A COUPLE OF SEASONS BACK. We're going to survivor Palau. Now the actual idle sort of like you know nothing to write home about but I think obviously the big memorable piece of this idol is the fact that it really did resemble contestant Willard who happens to be part of a tribe that one this idol every single time in the pre merge so. I guess I'm taking all of that into perspective. Where does this idol rate for you though Willard idle? Oh this is great. You should check out the funny one. Fifteen number eighty six injuries. Atlanta TALKS ABOUT. If you Google that you'll get a whole read an entry on this idol and you'll get a much better appreciation for what brings to the season into survivor history You gotta give props to Willard. Being the guy that he is they'd like into whole idle game was revolving around him until he was woefully cut short in the pre merge. I'm GONNA give it. You know things middle of the road sale. Give it three to five and I was pretty basic. It's a nice little wouldn't think you'd hang on your mantlepiece somewhere in the living room and the foyer you walk in and I hopefully hopefully. Willard has one of these. I would love to know these guys. He doesn't have pictures of himself. He just used to hang this thing not to be his own self portrait. I mean you say we'll probably one of those nondescript players driver that's probably most forgotten except for the fact that the pre merger idol looks exactly like. That's pretty cool so I like that. I like the little history. Yeah I'M GONNA give it I'm gonNA give it like a three point five. Can I think the the the idol itself is not much to write home about? There's actually a lot of these idols that are like pretty generic teas but just the fact that it resembles a contested surely serendipitous -ly unless they really didn't mean for it to happen. After they saw this time casting. I really hope that's the case But just the the resemblance. Maybe the fact that after Willard left his soul was like trapped in this idol afterwards. That's my own personal head candidate. So do that. It's getting a three point five for me. I'm not dog. I can't agree with you. I can't I can't even that reference someone say two and a half honestly put the mantle then told me from survivor. Yeah are you sure? It just looks so basic but then again. I haven't read that funny one. Fifteen article apparently in a while. I read all the one one. Funny One fifteen but I'll maybe maybe it is. Maybe it's better than Pun I glance like this is super basic. But it's very average middle of the road very like either gets better or worse five to two and a half out of five. I expect whether it be chewing. You're out sweating minute. Doctor Willard is going to slip into you. Know it has to be better than we'll Kirby right or now will kirby too much much much worse cover. You will achieve out on behalf of Willard together. Let's let's move on here. I WanNa talk about maybe one. That's been forgotten a long run. The game changers tribal idol which is a diverse helmet. Which you know some people might have forgotten the general aesthetic of game. Changers was a shipwreck makes sense given the way the season went. But I I love this. And we've seen some bus before I think they have like a keystone or one in Nicaragua. There's like terra cotta warrior in China. But I don't know something about like the the limestone rust on this the fact that when they did three tribes at one tribe got the helmet the other tribe got the perch is just so funny to so this. This has to get like a four four and a half from my perspective. What do you think Leslie My i? You know I'm right there with you. The only thing I don't remember anyone trying and maybe it's just not big enough if it didn't somebody's head. I would give it a five out of five. I don't think it's I think it's probably a bit too small. Maybe for a child I'd agree four and a half. Yeah for sure. I think this is top notch hitting survivor. This point definitely figured out what the media idle with the. I'm sorry the tribal immunity should look like. I'm just imagining them. Putting IT ONTO JEFF. Varner said as he walks out at the end of this advance. The shame walk. It's the last one of the pre merge with you and with your pizza box. Yeah I think it's a pretty unique looking. I mean it's definitely unique working on. I like it a part of me wonders like is it too much but you know. I think it's definitely it stands out. It's it's I don't know I don't even know what to make of it. I'd say I guess I'll give it a four to five. I just think they've done a lot of work and I think I don't really wrecking understand. Why against the Game Changers Theme and I guess they kind of make sense. Like you have a diver with a helmet on Amana. It's okay it looks cool. I'll never forget John Cochran on the ship as a reward. It'll be burned in my brain forever. Only addle now. It's been great. We all right. Let's move on to the next one. This is from survivor Philippines. The famous brewster so it is a Saruman. Knock which I believe is like a legendary bird in the Philippines. But it's a rooster. This is so much fun. I I know that Marlon speaking of the funding of team. This is the first entry on the newest version of the funding one. Fifteen healthily referring to this as big black cock make of that what. What do you think about the rooster? Here I love the rooster. I think it is absolutely insane. The fact that they made a rooster out of Into an idol fashioned. And it's not all the fact that you can split it up into two. I have included this in a thumbnail that put together and made the hole thumbnail just about this one little. I think it was talking about the the worst. Middle East accessible tribes in as far as challenges go and I had to include. This of course is a reference to Matt. Sing and yeah no I love this one. I think it's hilarious. It's so unique I go crazy. I'M GONNA give it a five out of five. Wow Wow I love it. I love this season. I think that the pre merges fantastic and the fact that they have a chicken idol is just insane. I love it the correct me. If this is me Miss Remembering didn't so maybe this was a wardag interview or maybe it was during the show didn't work dog reference a premium video about the rats. He told me that he he did. He did actually bring it up. He said he brought it up to a Kelly. End to Lauren on the beaches and the pre marriage because they were losing. So he's like maybe we keep losing until it's just us and then we'll have like no threat will get rid of David and Rick and whoever and Wendy and then we'll just go into the merge with such a small level of threat he's like eating reference he's like this guy made talked about the strategy. I was like yeah actually. It wasn't me I didn't think strategy this came from. I think Robin Steven. Yeah it was cool. He brought that up. That's cool. I forgot whether that was cannon on the show that I think it wasn't it must have been a previous player. It's very very unlike or directly related to them they would. It would not be mentioned on the show. Yeah there's no way I'm getting you know. I think it's a fun idle and honestly survivor goofy fear yet. The better just avoid Borneo goofy. I feel like there's a line and that crossed it. This rides align perfectly. I'M NOT GONNA say five out of five. I would go with Moore to five. I do really like it I I'm I'm just a big fan of just the weirder. The better makes me remember the season. More honestly yeah. Except for Borneo's reporting I remember now I've seen. I'll never forget this and I'm GonNa go back and Rewatch. I think this is also like compounded by the by the weirdness of Borneo in general so this is just like a drop in a bucket. Where something like this survivor had been so sort of work through at this point that when you see or rooster okay. That's interesting and I I feel good. It's very indicative of as pretty. I'm like survivor Philippines. In itself that like it had been in a bit of a Rut. This is a bit of a renaissance and to commemorate that. It's like here's this wacky new bird appearing. Never going to Matt saying so I'M GONNA give it a four and a half. I also liked the effect of the fish hanging out of its mouth that I did not realize that I like you said the tail feathers are detachable. I believe to create a certainly consider it because they had three tribes on survivor season. Since I think all stars though the fact that this is one of the first idols that can actually break apart. You know. That's pretty cool. I think they could points in. My Book didn't have four C. Four Seasons wasn't then Cook Right. I know it's not in this list announced super curious with idle at seizing because they had to break it up cooking inlands was a Tiki and I believe it was the head the body and the legs was in Panama. I believe before they put all design beheads together. I think each tribe got Zombie head. That won the challenge Okay Yeah what was four tribes for only a couple of episodes in those seasons or at least enough at least from I remember The final one. W WANNA talk out. We gotta go two worlds apart here the F. Ing stick as coupled live. He has a hat and a shield and like armor and he's standing on a pedestal and this is incredible. In so many ways they actually made a living. Totem out of a stick. This is just everything I want about an idol and more. This gets five out of five from me. I I wish I could give it a six. This is ridiculous bonkers and I love every ounce of it. Yeah he just said what I was thinking I was going to give it a six out of five so I think I might just to go echo your sentiment and then give you what you didn't want to do. This is incredible. I didn't even think about the fact that it looked like the F. Ing Stick which I couldn't even tell you what I what season this was like. What is this is clearly an HD photos? It's kind of recent memorials apart. What ELISA WOULD BE PROUD PROUD? She I mean maybe she already knows but then I mean this. Yeah I stay within the numbers and very analytical missing five out of five but if I was just given emotional response. Is this the best one here? Yeah this is. You're talking about like what the Willard idle want that display like. I want this displayed in every room in my house please lease yes. I wanted for the historical like it's just this is one of the Wacky as probably the Steidl they've ever made has little shield right. It's looks it looks like a little key enemy character. Killed Video Games. Yeah I don't know what it is. It's got the skulls of course a classic for Survivor. Scott wearing armor and clothing. And it's got a skirt and it's got legs was little via the bottom staff. Is she'll like this dude is he is level ten and he's running around and he's questing he's. I don't know what he's doing but Graham. Yeah I think if they keep making survivor video games just make like an open world. Rpg with this guy is the main character absolutely. These guys see shells for is. Yeah make it like a little big planet type of thing but now you're like battling crossing him on like this looks like something out of the little big planet this could affect right in all right so that is just a smattering of idols. You've seen through the years but man they run the gamut and the best way. Let's finish things off here as we do every week on the BNB. The question of the week lax vs question of the week. What is the theme of the season because as Jeff drope says every season has a theme? I'll have a few responses that you listeners game before we start wrapping things up. K Breezy says an alternate theme for Season Forty of survivor and then now linked to a tweet which was a game of chutes and ladders called breadfruit and ladders. Which is again that. I personally would like to play. That's another survivor board. Game that you can adapt one day radium for one of Your Board Game Nights and I would look forward to it absolutely John. John SAYS THEME OF SEASON. One thousand nine hundred survivor Viagra. Since Rob mentions that he got back into survivor due to the actions of Russell hats that I don't know what the opposite like forbade seasons there like an opposite of Viagra That would that would make things significantly whimper. Any pharmaceutical people are out there in the audience. Cancer Pirker Schindler says the theme of millennials versus Gen X. Was Future our guests and not mad at that. You could also knows that for like many season in the thirties. Basically a little bit. Maybe made that goes in the forties solution of our HAP Day. Go I'll man. That's going to be like a snake eating. Its Own Tail. Just so finally. Let's here's some from Muhammad survivor. Forty old school versus new school Survivor thirty nine island of stay away from the idols survivor. Worlds apart high school high school a stick survivor. Tony's adventures survivors on. They'll sore kill bill and finally survivor Micronesia. Who RUN THE WORLD GIRLS? Gherman WHO EARNS GAP? It reminds me of like there's been like survivor. Sucks Post and some post about like season summed. Up as LIKE SPONGEBOB. Quotes or the office quotes. This was sort of like a version of that. And I love those exercises to like some a season in a few words or like a three second clip so for next week as we approach the merge here what you all out there. Wendell in my pun. Loving heart had a delightful sendoff to you'll in this episode as he voted for you'll held up vote and said you'll be on the edge of extinction tonight. Second only his drop the mic Bro. Put down the pen Bro. Pickup the eraser. So I want you all to do your best Wendell create your own voting confessional where you create upon using the name of a person who's still in the game like I hope you're inclined not to play your idle tonight Adam you're going to the extinction something like that. You have a bunch of ways you can reach out to us with that answer can always email it to us rha. Bnb DOT com the letter the letter the letter B. at gmail.com treated to using Hashtag Rha. Bnb posted on facebook. Reddit Youtube under one of these guys videos. I don't know we'll cover it all next week as we finally get to the merge of what is it war will be joined by the. Great Kirsten McGinnis to break it all down shirt and extremely fun time so be sure to check that out. Liana. We'll be back as well for now. Gentlemen the pleasure was all mine to get to nerd out about survivor. With two of the best survivor contact creators. I know really putting out so much. Fantastic content each and every week. You know someone who absolutely loves YouTube. I never thought that my opinions would align with survivor. Eleven Youtube love outside of like little compilation videos. But you've been able to really make make make this into a different style and I know I speak on behalf of the community when I thank you both for the work that you have done in that you're going to be able to do moving forward so if you guys want to plug your channels your social media and if you want to plug again what might be coming up down the line in the immediate future for your videos. Let's start with him. Yeah Okay you can find me on Youtube Paladium. It's P. R. I The I am. That is a combination of the word paradox and diamond which is my birth birth thrones. Kinda RANDOM YOU'RE GONNA find me on twitter at my name Billy Geiss and on Instagram I put up videos every week every Wednesday right before the latest episode of survivor and in the case of big brother. 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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 10 Ru-Cap

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RuPauls Drag Race Season 12 | Episode 10 Ru-Cap

"Hello hello and welcome to the RU Paul's drag race recap here on reality. Tv WRAP UPS. I'm your host Liana. Boris and we are here to talk about episode. What episode is this ten ten of Paul's drag race season? Well of course I am not alone with me is a man who I'm sure we'll now legally be changing his name to Brent the planet Brandt Welcome. How are you? I died in fell out when she said that and I was living for her all the more like I thought it was just a nickname and then when I heard she legally changed her name. I was like you go bitch. We love you and like I had a great time with her throughout this entire episode so it was very nice to be here. Yeah that follow through so committed I love it. Oh God yes well. Of course we also have a man which much like drag brings joy. He brings joy Amman Amman. How're you doing? I am also really really good. Super duper excited talk about this episode. the ending. I felt was like the only appropriate way to end an episode. Like this though I feel like this is just like an episode. Where you know. You don't often get those and drag races. I'm excited great. Yeah well we will definitely get into everything including the. Save the double save that we got this episode and all of the makeovers here which I'm really looking forward to. And then of course we will talk a little bit about the episode of secret celebrity drag race that also aired this week. Let's kick things off and get into what happened after the elimination. There's not a whole lot talk about here but you know you get a little bit more of the inner saboteur talk discussing widow and we are reminded of course brand that this is our top sits. Yes our top six and it's going to remain on top sakes for awhile which is also kind of crazy thinking. It's also our top five. Yeah that's true true. I didn't even think about that actually. Yeah wow that's why we're we`re. We're we're really close. Yeah we're really close and then also thinking okay so if somebody had gone this weekend I guess this will apply to next week. Like that is our top for which is kind of crazy. Assuming it's not you know Sp but I guess we'll see okay. Well did you say after the elimination to me like not that much going on? No you know. It's sad to see Widow go but like I think it was her time and I think that they sent her up pretty well so I think pretty well but I also think that they definitely through a little dirt on the coffin on the way out the door because they showed her like quote unquote giving up which I don't think she was giving up. I think she was pissed off When she was getting criticism from the judges and I felt like the editors went out of their way to make sure that we at home felt righteous. In the fact that widow had gone home like they WanNa make sure that we wrote came with the fact. That would've gone home because let's be real. She's a front runner for a while and then for her not win and not even make the top four and not even make three honest top six. Yeah I I think that they probably equally as stunned as we were and they wanted to make sure that we were not rioting in the streets. Yeah I guess that's true. There was a little bit. Did go off a little bit of this self defeatist attitude. But the you're right. They did emphasize especially the throwing the arms up. Or maybe because it was. Heidi was talking about it. But of course editor shows to include that part of my thought though and I had this thought throughout the entire episode was. I think this is a very sherry pie. Heavy episode especially based on the results of the challenge like Cherry Pie and Terry Mizzou like look exactly the same And so I kind of feel like some of the editing was kind of making for that so there might be some. I don't know maybe some weird stuff in there here and there but whatever. Let's jump into the next day in the workroom where we get our Maxi Challenge. Which is the superfan makeover at now. Amman they did this really cool thing early. I thought it was cool. Where they put the super fans or we're GONNA be made over kind of in a separate area and said Oh you're just going to be in the audience and then tricked them when they brought them into the room. So I mean maybe I'm putting on my hat okay but I always questioned the validity of shit like this because you have to sign some sort of released when you agree to go on television and I feel like I feel like there has to be something extra that you're signing if you're also agreeing to potentially have your appearance changed or obviously it took place over multiple days so. I feel like and like all day over multiple days. Yeah like I I thought maybe maybe they were able to be a little Like maybe admitted some things like they sort of like skated around was actually going on and skated around the truth. But I have to imagine that they had to know that there was. It wasn't just that they were going to be audience members because it was just so much that they committed to in a short period of time. Let me just live in my fantasy world. Amman it's definitely real will lose. I thought it was also finding say. Put little audience labels on them. Which now that I'm thinking about it. That's kind of like you know when you're telling a lie and Kinda like add extra onto it to make the lie believable. Maybe that's what they were doing here with a little audience tags. This reminded me of Big Brother Canada when those people got under the show. Instead of our beloved Kirsten McGinnis and then they said that they were out of the audience and they've gotten selected and how believable was that? Lie So no. I wasn't buying this at all and I was like yeah. I think what happened was they probably told these people you know. Yeah there's there's a chance you could be in an episode of drag race and because you to sign releases and stuff like that like I mean. There's all sorts of things that go into something like this and then a new. Maybe they needed. They thought that they were like Like a fifty fifty shot like it's damning like there's another group of six but then they were surprised to learn that it was just then. I think I think that's possible. Don't they knew that they were going to be the ones that were chosen? But I think maybe they didn't even know what the the episode was going to entail. I would totally believe that. Maybe they lied about like. Oh Yeah you get the chance to be on the show you get. You get a chance to meet the Queen's and be like An audience for a specific competition and then Lo and behold you walk into the workroom and then you are the competition so I would definitely believe I mean I mean they have to get it. Ok'd from these people ahead of time there. Okay being apart of drag race Getting into drag and having a drag makeover like and some people may not want to do that. Some people may not want to look silly on camera. I know that drag race fans by and large would but there's always people who are naysayers and you never know they can't tape something like this and then one of the people is like actually. I don't really feel comfortable doing this because of X Y and Z. My job my husband my my kids some whatever and then have to go back and reshoot something like they got this approved ahead of time so they had to know something anyway. That's the magic of Y'all just no okay. Well I'll living my magical by. We do. Get our wonderful Contestants here I don't really call them but There are super fans that are going to be made over. We have Bethany. Brace Janet the planet Nicole Shea who lay number two and tiffany so there was some discussion. I know online which I which I had I had not heard about and then watch the episode had like lots of fun and then when I was watching readings in the commentary people. Some people were upset that there were women that were chosen to be made over like super fans and I was like why don't really get Yeah so I don't know I just WANNA throw it out there that whatever. I'm not even I don't even like I don't even know what to make of those comments because this was just so fund me and I'm really happy with the women that they chose the show. Yeah and it was like it was the whole thing was super fans and game in. Aren't the only people that watch this show like? Yeah I'm on you know there's definitely a segment of the population. And you know like I'm not exactly the most absolutely progressive of the gay population. So like I understand these people coming from although I think they're fucking idiots The thing that drag is specifically for gay men and that it's always been for game and and it's just our little thing and they are very exclusive about it. They are not inclusive about it and of course we do not agree with that and drag. It's so fun to watch. These women have the time of their lives getting into drag revealing. Who they are. And if you can't recognize that you're just a little backwards and come on the program not little ally like these that come to your shows and give you money so that you can do this damn shit so if you want to give them a damn makeover real quick let it be like insane to me. It's it's drag. It's not that serious right. You're not what was it? It was during the presidential proposal. So good yeah. Plus they've made over family members before so is like at a well. Gene gets to do the pairing here so she pecks Bethany And then crystal. I don't know if this matters crystal gets Grace Sherry Pie gets Janet Planet Heidi Nicola. Dj gets shake. Who Lay number two and Jackie? It gets tiffany And it was just. It was so wonderful to see the super fans there. Because that's one hundred percent. Would I would be like I think it was a crystal Methods Girl Grace. Who was like on the verge of tears because she was so excited one hundred percent would have been me but anyway we get a lot of workroom stuff this episode. So I don't know if there's anything. Amman that you WANNA touch on from all of our work realme shenanigans. Here I mean Rupaul. Death this is on the end of the episode but I think Jada did a pretty good job here I feel like she matched everybody up With somebody that was matching their energy and every all of them were very excited to be there and I was happy. I was surprised at first that she didn't choose. Aren't we getting Superfan? Sam's I'm surprised to hear that she didn't choose the woman because as far as makeup was concerned. That can be a bit of a challenge. if you're not used to using paint that's not of your shade But I'm glad that I'm glad that if she wasn't going to get her then she did. At least give her to hide so. Heidi wouldn't have to worry about The makeup at least But I think I'll side of that like she did a pretty good job of matching everybody up. I think everybody was kind of perfect. Yeah I'm angry about that. I'm I'm also forgetting the names. I know you said then Leon while I'm talking. Do you think that you could type them in our little skype chat? Because I forget like I mean I remember Tiffany Whiz. I remember that's all I remember exactly. I remember Janet the planet with Sherry Pie. And I remember. I remember a tiffany with our girl. Jackie but everyone else. It was just like who are you again. I love you but who are you getting all right? We got it. Yes yes you're welcome. I don't have I have. They're dragging and later. It's okay I can remember. Actually I remember the Dragon US far more than I do. They're they're real names. Yeah because they called. They called them more by their drag names by their real names. Especially because how do you forget snacky Cox else Makiko like the grow could do the splits? I was impressed I know she was living in Ohio. She was yes. We'll talk about it. Well we get. Oh my God. Yeah we get gee-gee with furry helmets. Which as soon as I saw the helmets more hat. Yeah here we go. I think one of the biggest stories here is really Janet the planet which I know we talked about a little bit before But you know especially if you're the workroom we get her talking to Rupaul. Talking about being six foot tall and the practice she legally changed her name to Janet the planet. I mean she just seems like such an interesting person and I kind of wish even though we got to know her. I wish we'd gotten to know her even more. Yeah that's insane to me. Actually I think somebody that's a fan of our show. She's a fan of our sap. I think I saw a tweet during the episode that she actually used to work with Janet. The PLANET'S I'll have to ask her about About Janet but yeah she seems to be the most well-versed in not just drag race but the art of drag itself. And my what a shitty deal that ended up being for her and that she was the one that was paired with Sherry pilate. She's the reason that by even got screen time like if it wasn't for her like they would have just been going about their business as usual when it comes to editing her out but yeah I thought I really did find her very compelling to the point where I actually was like. Can we just replace her? We place area with our because I'd be much more invested in her as a competitor. Yeah she was great I agree. She was so intriguing to me. I just wanted to spend more time with her. I think that literally the people that produce drag race could do something with Janet the planet on a Web series. I would totally sign up for it and watch it. She had such a vibrant fun personality and she seems totally comfortable in her own skin. But you also feel like that. She's a bit of an old soul who wasn't always comfortable in your own skin. Which I in some ways can identify with like I. I love people like that but if face their demons and come out stronger for it in the end yeah seem very very like while. She was excited to be there. She wasn't like in your face like it was very like. Oh I'm so excited to be here everything about all of you guys. I'm so supportive of all of this. I cannot wait to get dressed up. It's going to be so fine. If we ever need superfan impression we know who to go to perfectly capsule but I love it. Yeah no Franky Granada for sure. Perfect the perfect sleeper fan. Yeah I thought it was. I think the other sort of main story that we get here is with us. Heidi's of superfan Nicole and sort of talking about her insecurities and I was really great especially with the work through where ru says you know. You're not born to blend and you're born to stand out and this concept of drag bringing joy I thought was just really cool like a mon- you said this the beginning of the episode but this episode was kind of a warm heart fell episode all the way around episodes packed with a lot of emotion and I was. I was kind of shocks that we did get to see as much content from the super fans as we did because sometimes when we have makeover episodes they don't really focus too much on The people that are getting made over They focused they just tend to focus more about the queen's and what their perspective is but we damn near got pretty much confessionals from these super fans and that it was just gave a lot more context To the competition and to just like totally took you out of the competition a bit like because Heidi sort of had to have two jobs in this episode. She not only had to be drag race contestant but she also had to be a bit of a therapist when it comes into coal and like sort of like trying to meet in the middle with her and I don't know if I'm jumping the gun a little bit when I when I mentioned this. Heidi does actually share the make the make overlook intended on bringing to the competition So I guess that they told them all that they were doing makeovers like any other competition and she had everything set up but of course because Nicole was a little bigger I'll put that she brought was not going to fit her. So that's why I mike when I said that this episode has a happy ending a sort of like I kind of sympathize situation because she brought stuff but she couldn't use it because of the way that production ended up. You know handling the show so I was happy that she was able to get one more chance at the very end so okay. Yeah I didn't know that I mean I kind of made the assumption that that was the case but we can talk about with some of the judging comments too. I just thought that was really well handled kind of the way that they did the whole thing. So all right. Is there anything else you WanNa talk about before we just jump into the runway jumping? Let's jump okay. Daisy Ridley was our guest judge who is a huge fan Which I didn't know I thought that was cool and I thought she did a pretty good job as our guest stretch this. I love daisy literally. Every time she came on the screen. Daisy daisy really fan. I'm so I'm a big star. Wars Fan I think Brent is too so it was great to see this like Sort of crossing over of worlds and I think that she also was a little similar to me Nicki Minaj and that she was a little bit more cerebral than I thought that she was going to be. She seems to really really watched these queens and really offer up some thoughtful and insightful critiques. I was happy that disability was asked to be a part of this episode. Yes there's no one who is more of a fan of busy Ridley than me. Only because I remember the excitement that I felt after watching star wars episode seven in what I thought could have happened to her character. Obviously I hated episodes. Eight and mostly nine nine was okay but I didn't love what they did with her character in particular. I don't love where they took care of drove her all. So I in some ways. I have like some Unrequited FEELINGS FOR DAISY. Ridley of what? I could have been so watching her on this episode of Drag Race and getting to know her a little bit more even when she was not necessarily in line with the panel. I thought it was a lot of fun Yeah yeah I thought it was good and I thought that her I mean just general. Being excited fat built the fit with the whole team episode because authentic exactly yes. It didn't feel put on definitely felt. Okay Brent tell me all about Heidi Aphrodite. Eighty and honey almighty first of all if there's going to be a name that sticks other than Heidi in closet. This is the one I love this name. I like boy. This works. Heidi effort eighty. And I'm the huge fan of Mira Sorvino. She wanted to Oscar for Mighty Aphrodite. If you don't know the reference and I love the fact that their spelling it A. F. R. O. Because obviously the original mighty Aphrodite e which refers to the I don't know Vista Roman Goddess. Or The I forget great. Thank you okay goddess of love and. I've never got a straight by the way but yes I love this name and I loved this pairing but my goodness when they walked out on the runway. I was like where is the family resemblance and they were giving her so much. Praise in the beginning during the judging. I thought for sure they weren't going to say anything. I thought that it was just going to be like we love you. You're amazing how he you're great and Nicole you're fabulous you're working at girl we love you. And then that's it but they. They gave her all of that and then they said now. Let's talk about the family resemblance and then I was like thank you because they're saying well they're saying what we are all are thinking at which is this doesn't look remotely from the same house of drag. I mean what is this like? I thought that she should have been in the bottom for the design of the outfits alone and obviously it makes more sense. Amman after you said what you said because you know you know for instance Cherry Pie doesn't just happen to have to tearoom Assu or whatever the hell outfits in her bag on accident like she knew they were going to do a makeover challenge so she brought those kind of things with her but something like this where Heidi has to use of outfits or materials that are not from some stuff that she previously bought are brought with her is is a part of the reason why we get some uneven results at the end of this challenge with regard to these two. But I'm really glad that the judges called it out because it did not look like there was any resemblance whatsoever not even makeup wise. Yeah the fan was interesting to see. How highly was gonNA affair with this family resemblance? Because she's had I struggle with her makeup. Its entire time that it's by her. She doesn't even know what she looks like she's creating. She's like recreating and experimenting with her own makeup throughout the entire competition. By the time you have to get to somebody else to do the same thing. It's like it's going to be you're still in experimental stages of is going to be a little bit different So it definitely came across and I so I while I sympathize with the look. Sort of like. She her having to rearrange things. Because it's not what she intended. What she did show on. Twitter wasn't what she wore either so I don't understand the choice that she made in like dousing herself in sequins and then giving Nicole pretty much adorable to wear is either. Both of you are going to be wearing sequence or both of you are going to be wearing dailies like if you're not going to be together in the face you at least need to be together in the clothes. And she looks pretty like The the worst part about this to me was that Heidi looked like the pretty sister because of the because of the secret mcgown and then like like that. Nicole wasn't getting the same amount of treatment. I wish they'd been a little bit more honest on the runway about it. Like why do you have your partner now looking as good as you Heidi? That's what I wanted them to say. Right yeah yeah I think it was challenging because her partner honey or was hurt. Nicole was dealing with those insecurities and it's so hard because the as okay like I'm just putting myself in the judges see I wanna Critique Heidi so how do I make it come across as I'm critiquing. Heidi and not honey. And it's a really sort of fine line to walk and I think that's part of the reason why you know. The critiques went away. They went for Heidi and honey because of that whole situation but I completely agree when they walked out I was like what am I looking like? Okay the hair looks sort of similar makeup. I thought actually looked sort short of similar at least in a passable way but to me the outfits were very very very very very different And so like you said on Mon. If she is going to have to scramble and find something else then it seems like an odd choice to be so incredibly distinct unless that was maybe like the only thing that she could do. You could tell them on that. Rupaul was annoyed by calling out. Heidi about like. Where did the time go like? What did you do that was roof roof being funny about it but Ruas pissed? Yeah Yeah and I was. I was talking about this with a roommate as we're watching too because if you tell them ahead of time that there's going to be a makeover challenge right and you allow them to bring Similar looks for that week. How much time are you actually giving them I? I'm not saying that there was no time. I was like a piece of me. Wondered if Rupaul was giving Heidi a harder time than it was appropriate to because if you're allowing them to bring stuff ahead of time which is exactly what all the rest of them dead than did they really. How much time did any of them spending anything besides talking? I think that's a valid critique. I think though the problem was is that Heidi's answer was I got to know her and we talked about disco. Andrew was like yeah. I know I learned that in the walk through the if Heidi's response had been Well we had to come up with the concept. I couldn't use the outfits that I had brought Blah Blah Blah. I don't know if there had been maybe more. I don't know like realistic answer. But also at the same time you have honey who really has some insecurity and you don't want to say on the runway like hey I couldn't use the outfit because like she's a different size like to point out on the runway might be really hard and if Heidi is trying to have empathy for honey. It's hard to to do that so I think it's a really tight rope to walk. Yeah it was But the gap the gap and the T- thing though now that I'm leaving they really have. Yeah it was like Oh see. That's like a totally easy won. Miss that I think I can understand like getting some serious critiques for so especially when we have such a amazing top sex that we're dealing with it. It does come down to those little details. Which is kind of what happens with the jockey and snacky car so. It's not that Jackie. I think. Did something inherently wrong It's just maybe it's not up to snuff. Compared to some of the other looks that we see on the runway this week. I'm on it was. It's not it's it's serviceable. You know what I mean. Ever since I've heard Brent use it all the time but it's like I I think the they did they will great from the neck up you know and I definitely see a bit of a family resemblance. I feel like some of the of the of the little. I don't go with makeup terminology but the stuff around the is. I could see what she was doing there and I mean she really lucked out and getting the partner that she did because I think she's probably like the most charismatic out of any of them. I mean maybe with the exception of Janet Planet she was just like so ready to just dive in and I think that her energy really helped sell what might not be a particularly stellar. Look but because the energy was I mean because of the fact that we are so down to the wire it's still going to like not end up working Jackie's favor but I feel like if this Philip if this were if this competition taking place a little earlier in the competition. I wonder if Jackie would still be in the bottom Brad. What did you think about Jackie and snacky this week boy? I did not care for this. I thought this was worse than what they were giving them credit for. I thought that the drag looked really small really small like there was nothing big in fun about it like she was in like a waitress cocktail dress. Like there wasn't a lot to it. It was what Rob Ross said. Where Yeah like. I said I do not believe it was good. But if you'RE GONNA go with with the thought that it's good in was good everything else or everyone else was trying to be great and I really felt like Jackie. Just mailed it in here like okay a pantsuit and cocktail dress. That's what you're doing for your family resemblance and like I thought that the hair actually was the worst part of it. The hair looks like helmet hair. It looks like it's literally been sprayed with aqua net and frozen in place. There's no body or moving. I don't even particularly care for the shape of it like we always talk about how G G has like helmets. But this look like helmet hair like kick look good. The makeup I don't think is even close And I don't even I really don't think it is Maybe around the is a little bit but like I don't feel like they look. I feel like the the I make up shadow on. Jackie is so much heavier then. What is on what's her name. I'm looking tiffany and the the outlets while there is a little bit of mirroring with the color line it. It doesn't quite do it for me. Because the because the outfits are dissimilar like in order for for mirroring to work outfits have to be the same shape of the same size like where Sherry pies like red and gold and golden red and in there the same type and you you look at them and you get it But this I again. I thought she looked like I thought it looked like Jackie was the rich sister and it looked like tiffany was the less fun less sexy one. Is anyone else getting not now? All I can see his helmet hair on smacky so like that. Not One hundred percent agree with. I think there's a little bit more I guess they do the kind of look like second cousins. They are family but a little bit more distant the Bengals or the am earrings look very similar. The nails of the same To I can see the cheek about the show being a little bit heavier on jockey but the pattern and the color palettes look this. Am I do wonder if how much Okay so. Let's say you know you're going to have to make somebody over and you don't know exactly the size. That person is going to be. Maybe your outfit. Decisions are sort of influenced by that. So maybe Jackie was like Oh. This is an outfit. Because it's shorts so you can easily Taylor the length of the shorts if needed or the like. There's some reason for that also. Sorry I thought it was. I thought it was. I thought it was a Like miniskirts shorts shorts. She does a split. You're right you're right. I'm sorry I forgot about that. Well whatever I still I still hate it. It doesn't matter if it's shorts or not. That's even worse. You're wearing shorts. On the on the runway of rupaul. Drag race. I mean so. So did you think than a man that these two were the clear bottom to looks with Heidi. Jackie being in the bottom two. I unfortunately I really think that there could have been a case made for g g because if you WANNA talk about mailing it and that's straight up late in that's like I mean I guess it was kind of smart on her end in a way because she created such a big look no matter what size somebody was it. Was it probably would fit most people but there was nothing to that. Look I mean even the makeup was just like okay like like I didn't I didn't get it. I didn't get it from cheeky. I ever did get something from Jackie from the neck up because I take the critique about the offense I do The helmet hair. I don't necessarily see because whenever queens go like seventies look the always go for this helmet here like I remember Valentino or something similar on season nine and got such praise from the judges for it like with the same kind of wig so like I just thought that was just like seventy dragway in my mind So I didn't. I didn't take any offense to that but I mean in A. I guess you'd like I said before when it's down to the wire like this. I can see why she was placed in the bottom so I think we said that these were the two bottom pairs I we can. We might as well just talk about next if you're okay with that. I am annoyed about the judging and the way things went at the end of this because gee-gee was fourth here. She was in the bottom okay. She was clearly in my eyes. The number three out of one two three at the bottom and route called her safe right away which is going to lead her to believe that there were four tops and bottoms. No bitch you were in the bottom and I hope that after watching this episode back. She realizes that she was in the bottom once again. 'cause it doesn't annoy me like. I feel like they really gave her a pass. I love the fact that God. What's her face the Star Wars on the panel? Daisy Ridley. Sorry. I blanked under neighbor second. I love that. She basically admitted to being pressured to go along with the panel. And she's still wouldn't she was like I guess. It's like an unpopular opinion. But I was not a big fan of this and then you have. Ross just like defending it to no end wine. Yeah I just loved you. Good they're still sucking her dick so whatever. I I I apparently she can do to run like like I said ru even called her safe like they didn't even make her sweat at the end. Which is what I wanted. I wanted them to make sweat again and realize hey there are people who are doing better than you in in the competition. Right now isolated. As far as the looks go t G. I think the makeup is smart and the outfits are smart but this is like the equivalent of the kid in grade school who turns in a blank piece of paper when asked for an essay answer by the teacher and then says actually that was my answer because yeah the world means nothing like you know like okay like. That's smart but yet I'm still annoyed by it so I completely agree. It did. Give me a very much Alaska. Allstars season two vibes. Maybe just because it was black and white but it was like this very much feels like you're phoning at end like what what what is going like. Okay the makeup skills I get it like G G is gorgeous but I think it was Jada who even said like Shi'as Gorgeous so you put a gorgeous girl and make up. She's GonNa look gorgeous like that's the way that that works so i. I really really wish that they had made it clear that she was in the bottom here on especially considering what everybody else bribe especially considering what she said. Last week they showed that to us for a reason and then it was like they're going to give her a pass gorgeous. Omega remember number she said last week I will not be in the bottom again and yet she was and we got no payoff for that whatsoever. Yes she should have been in the bottom here. I mean the bottom to necessarily to the bottom right to the bottom just like come on. That's not fair that you can get away with this now. She talked a little bit and talked about how we were. I was hoping that this would be you know my mom and I would get to do this together but I think she was prepared regardless or whomever it like this outfit would work. I'm like pretty much anybody so anyway. Fine g good and bb bad. Also with I I. They were going Gaga over. That and I was like that's just so on the nose. I feel sick. I really boring. I wouldn't remember he's recapping. He likes stuff like this. Okay you love what you love him on my heart. It was stupid but like I chuckle and I like that kind of stuff. I was watching the episode with me and he was like. Oh my God. She's going to be bad and then when that was the name she's like I so called Rue says. Don't try and reinvent the wheel. You know like just comment. The best answer is the the the most common so yes. That's right the wheel is fine. Now let's take a break to your word from our sponsors and we are back. Well let's jump back to Jada and jazz essence hall of the Essence Hall family and Jada ended up winning this week. Did you think that this was deserved? Yes and I was really glad it didn't go to Sherry Pi. Yeah I was really worried. There was going to go to Sherry Pie and because remember the time that they take all this. They didn't know what was happening with Sherry pilot. They could have given her the wind and the Queen's would have been fine with it and they would have celebrated and like we would've felt really icky at the end of the episode. I felt like this was the clear winner and I was nervous that they wouldn't give her the wind because she got the win last week. And it's often on repulsed drag race that they give people back to back wins and she is FAA nominal. She is amazing. Jada I stand you like I. I swear to God Jacob when the season she better win because she is absolutely amazing the fact that she can take a girl who looks so unlike her yes. She's pretty but but she doesn't look like her she's a white girl and at that she is an unsteady white girl who has never really walked in heels. Very much. Didn't really like them. Kinda thought Jada the entire way to the point where these queens had a ladies within who were like Adam here I wanna live. My fantasy in. Jada wasn't getting that and I'm sure she might have regretted her choice a little bit at the beginning where her her partner was a little. Bit more introspective and you know had opinions of her own. Wanted to make those opinions known. Jada is a firm Queen where she was like no. We're doing it this way. This is how you gotTa do. And if you're if you're worried about it then you're already defeated like Jada doesn't come from the school of Quito. Von Do where they asked what? Oh why were you wearing the biscuits every week? And she was like I was just prepared in case I needed to lip sync. I wanted to be able to dance and they were like. You're preparing to fail. Jada does not prepare to fail. She came to win. She shoots for the stars and I like like if she was playing a reality show like not like a competitive reality. Show like Big Brother or survivor. She would be like the the Tony because she would be a big baller player. She wants to go out there and absolutely kill each and every time she doesn't care if she becomes a bigger and bigger target. This was phenomenal because I couldn't believe she made this and not only that for the makeup to look as good as it does with the whigs skills that she has to make. That look like seriously. How do you make this white bitch look like how they just phenomenal to me? I'm sorry I keep using. That word phenomenal. Because she's just so amazing in the fact that she was basically our narrator throughout this entire episode and giving US opinions on everybody else and telling us about her struggles with their own superfan and she was also like. I'm like the drag queen to the super fans because I'm babysitting them. Your welcomes like. She's so funny I just she can do no wrong in my eyes. I can't wait to see her win this. I'm I'm just picturing Jada up in a tree in her spine. Gee Tony compare out on my mind. Well how did you feel about eight this week? Okay so I think that the week. I don't know if she won this challenge. Definitely in the top definitely should be commended. For the fact that yes you gotta you gotTa chocolate woman and you gotTa Vanilla woman standing next to each other and you can still see the resemblance and the fact that we got to see so much of her coaching Bethany through this. And like you said Brent like she was like no. We are doing this too well and she did not let up like Bethany was like I don't know about these hills and like I feel like if it were any other queen they might have let their superfan Taco a making them all the way with with their with their vision by Jada was like no. No no no no no no I chose you. You're going to do this. I know that there's something deep inside of you. That has it and you were not no. Let's let's let's get our shit together and I loved that because I was like you would think. Oh superfan you WANNA take it easy on them. They didn't sign up for this like you did. Well actually no. They did sign up for this. I'm sure it's not something back. They're saying like when they get made over so be prepared. So you're you're here. We'll make the best of it so I believe that Jada was the star of this episode. Yes I read the whole the whole little bit about her babysitting kids and talking to the other super fans and trying to make sure they had a great experience. I liked that because I like that. She was about her business but she also was able to recognize. I mean these are just normal people that are on the show with us to have it. They're going to have a good time. Let's let's let's show them a good time so I think that she had a fantastic edit and I. I'm not complaining about her winning because what it does now is tied up with Digi good and makes things interesting for the end of the area. And I don't know I like I said I don't know if she won this for me but I I'm not mad that she did. I think I agree with Amman a little bit more. I Love Jada and I want her to win this season. Like if you made me pick somebody right now. That needs to win Rupaul. Xdrive grace this season like Jada is the first name that would come out of my mouth because the fact that she like rent like you said was able to make this way bitch look like her is absolutely amazing and not only that but Jada 's attitude just makes me so happy inside Jada is i. Will you know I'm like pick going to pick myself up like we're GONNA work through this? We got this. We're GONNA do this and the appreciation that she gave for you know being able to make over the super fans and be there and be supportive is just phenomenal out of this world like I absolutely love it and of course like the looks this week. Gorgeous makeup gorgeous. She is gorgeous however who I think should have won this week and I'm curious if you and I have the same thoughts Was Crystal Method because I think the fact that crystal did this frigging gender. Flip of Bert and Ernie look is insane. Like there's something so incredibly artistic about what she did. This week that for me I think pushes her a little bit over the edge and I think I would have given the win this week to Saul not dead. Chill okay. I'm on Yes. I agree one hundred thousand. I don't give it to the weird queen this week. Give her her coins. She absolutely deserved it. She took it outside of the box. But it wasn't to outside of the box that you will like. What fucking box is this. You understood immediately. What she was going for the makeup it look and people were in the. I'm not sure which one is crystalline. Which one is is is OPAL and I. I agree like you couldn't tally. Because the makeup is so heavy it works. I mean you had a gender flipped Ernie and Bert. Two people that are considered to be iconic. Lgbt characters but not entirely because it's never been confirmed to the fact that she was able to just you know what let me just have own interpretation of them? It's just like these. These are the iconic lgbt characters that we know and love. And I'M GONNA give it to you in this special point of view. I love the fact that she that their faces were Were painted and I love the fact that their arms were fabric. All of the jewelry all of the all of the details the flannel the CI. Like how did she find those shirts? How she does are the exact same colors that burden. Ernie wear everything was perfect and I just the way they committed to it on on stage and everything. I just something that you did. Not Expect and compete. She delivered and it was clear and concise. There was sustained and it was. It was a point of view that you don't often see and yeah maybe you don't always want to give it to the word coming. This show has sometimes it has issues with giving. Shits Weird Queens. We just crowned award winner. So maybe all weeded out. And they're looking for the next best thing which I don't know why though Biji good or whatever. I just feel like this is like this. That was dragged that was ultimate drag this week and she. I think she clearly deserved the win. This time around rants yeah. I can't agree with that and I respect you guys'll opinion and it's fine. It's fine. I thought she was clearly three a three. I thought she was in the top but she was number three for me and this is the reason why because he didn't read his drag to me. It read as costume. And maybe you don't care that there's in my is a difference between those two but I think there is a noticeable definable difference between a Halloween costume and drag and this felt like Halloween costume with the makeup. It did not feel like it took in. Don't come for me. The same amount of effort that Jada essence hall that makeup skills with her queen to make her look like she came from the same family without plastering it onto her. I I thought that was foreign above. What crystal method was doing here and I also take issue with the fact that a mom was like you clearly know what's going on here obviously not because Ross had to ask what the fuck am I looking at so. I don't think that that's necessarily true. The in a good way away fun. Yeah I'm again. I'm not coming for him. It's not like the failed the challenge. They did amazingly well. I had a great time with it. And it's not. I also take issue with the fact that I'm onsite. Well it's outside the box. But it's not so so far outside the like no hunting down the block off the street to the check cashing place like this is like so far away from the box into universe. But it's still fun. It's just that I don't think it's the winter and that's okay like I felt like this to me. This was okay. They were applauding crystal. For sever than always saying you know what we say when you come on rebels drag race to show us who you are but I also felt like this was the easy thing for crystal to do something like this to do the heavy or clown real that she veers too sometimes which to be fair. She has been getting away from in recent weeks. And we've been loving from her so I guess I'm GonNa stand her because she is a queen of makeup skills and can basically do anything. But I wasn't as impressed by you guys but I still loved it. I think for me it okay. Do you guys ever have like? Sometimes you see a piece of our work in a museum or in a store or something and you're like I don't know why I love this and I can't stop staring at it. Let's feel about this. I can understand where you're coming from with the like. What is the you know the the line between something that is maybe more on the costume side versus more in the drag world. But for me I love the art of this and I love the fact that she was able to contour different colors of yellow or different colors of orange like that is a drag makeup. I think is super impressive of DASS. It is amazing to me the fact that I didn't even notice before that the arms are covered with cloth like Burton. Ernie that is so fucking. Coal don't thinks of something like that. So just unshirkable audacity alone like I understand why she's challenging for the win here again for me. I would've gone with Jada but I wouldn't be mad if this was the winter. If that's what they ended up going West but they would have. I felt like if she was going to be the winner they they would have needed to give me a few more editing. I knew she wasn't the winner. By the way the entity was going Which in some ways. I'm kind of a little bitter about because I would have liked like I basically knew it was between Cherry Pie. Jada I was like basically at the end I was like thank God. It's not cherry pie like I wasn't quoting the fact that crystal wasn't amongst the top. Yeah Yeah I really just thought that. It was a feast. You know what I mean like. I just thought it was just so much to chew on and it was just. It was just an invigorating and yeah I mean it sure. It's a little bit on the costume side but crystal method is on the cost side. And that's that's a if there was if there was anything that she was going to do to make somebody else over. I would never have thought that it would be you know what I mean because while because a wild Jada did a fantastic job. It's I I don't remember it. The way that I remember Kristal Kristof his job and the same thing for Sherry Pilic Cherry Pie. Did a fantastic job with that makeup because that did not Janet it did not look like Cherry pies a little sister. It really did so. She did a fantastic job is as far as family resemble respond. Resemblance goes but I just think that crystal sort of took that extra step that none of the other queens dead and I just that's setting it apart from me. Yeah I mean it's definitely outside of the box or the sesame street I guess and just as a as a no before we talk about Cherry Pie briefly Mike Bloom did message me. And he said if we ever do a live. Rha P. B. NBC show. We are dressing like this. My mic also apparently vary like also the fact that crystal meth that had such a great partner in grace where she was just living her life out there. A lot of the other bitches. I think would not have been so enamored about being like painted like Burr from burner. You know what I mean like. I don't think of them would have been like so hip to this. Probably biased for that too like I. I fucking loved Sesame Street as a kid like I was sess too so I'm sure that has a little bit to all this too. I'm the Disney game. Loved Sesame Street Street of it no I do. I do wonder if that had been me like. What would my reaction have bank? I was waiting for that. A little nervously of you know of grace of and like what the fuck. Why am I DRAG? Queen? I'm looking like I look like a clown. But nope she didn't do that okay. Well let's talk about Cherry Pie and Terry Mitsu brand. Because they did look as a mom pointed out exactly the same show alike. I couldn't tell who was who came out and I really couldn't tell who share and WHO's not. I really couldn't. I literally had to like okay. Wait that's Sherry right okay. Yeah that's Sherry. I took me a second. They were so amazing. I I hate giving Cherry Pie props. And we don't have to spend very much time and her by God. Dance looked good. She gave Janet the planet all the family resemblance in the world. And I really thought for a moment that she might be the winner. It was that talent right there to have to be able to do that to somebody's face and just completely transform their image that way And they had like a little stick as well with being waitresses and having the little props on stage with them And you know during the walk through really stress to her that she registers as old and how it's important for sort of shed that image and I didn't really get. I didn't get old from the two of them. You know what I mean. I definitely got older time on which is signature. Cherry Pie AS Roma's point out but I didn't get old when they came down. I got you know too late in the diner taking orders and they looked related that you nailed it so if she did a good job yeah. They looked related in the sense that they look like identical twins. That's that's the one comment that I will give like. I really honestly could not could not tell them apart. Yeah okay so the superfan lip sync is what we get next. Which I thought was kind of like it was fine. I gotTA ZONE OUT DURING IT. But the women looked like they were having fun. Which is Great Opel seriously killed it like it was a little bit like. Oh Sean tell you all stay so. Mary said that I was like Oh. They're not eliminating like oh they're just talking about the super fans. Oh my God Ida frontex that was like hey like let me know as soon as you watched the episode and so when this started the lifting start if they do shenanigans where like the superfan lip syncs and like somebody goes home because of the Superfan or something I was prepared by like some twist turns out it was just a double saying it was like all right. Yeah exactly like it would've died okay. Well Gina wins the challenge here. Which like you guys pointed out her third win which girl and then we have the lip sync between Heidi and Jackie Amman. How did you feel like this? Do you think that I don't know? How did you feel about this whole thing? I thought it was good. Sometimes with these double Sean Hayes. And they don't they don't happen often but the thing that worries me about them is like somebody the clear winner here and because of the fact of how scheduling works. This is going to be a double Shaun tait anyway. But now it's bad because somebody should clearly should have gone home and you just had some sort of like edited the best that you could but I didn't get that vibe. I WANNA see felt like the two of them. Approach this lipstick from two different point of views. I mean you guys Jackie in the comedy routine which sometimes get a registered as like a bit of a cop out or as like you either do too much and it's like okay like this is just. You're not taking this seriously. I think she did a good job. And you know Heidi's a dancing queen so she's always going to turn it out but I think that it was a pretty levelly matched lip sync. So I kind of saw the Double Sean. Payton coming. A bit of it has to do with new. How a new where. The finale was supposed to land. So we're going to hold up. The numbers aren't adding up. Something's GonNa but something's about to happen but it wasn't like I wasn't able to tell I was I was like seriously like wondering who the fuck is going to go home because the two of them are really neck and neck right now. Yeah I could tell. I'll I think that Amman's right. It was built into the episode whenever you have this kind of an amazing song as the lift sink. The show is preparing because they know that there are just certain songs like drag Queens are always going to kill and this was killed by both of them they were really really good And I knew instantly once. They told Heidi that she was safe. I knew the Jackie was also saved because they gave Jackie that preys on the judging panel when Michelle was like she was like Freaking Gilda. Radner up there like. They wouldn't let that in if they were about to eliminate her so you knew the Jackie was saying I was just waiting for Rupaul to say it they also did it in a different way. Usually rawls like Shanta. You both stay but this time. She was like Heidi you stay. Jackie girl it's been fun. We liked your magic tour and we're about to get a little bit more of it because you stay like I. I enjoyed that very much. Yeah I guess he did it to like really Shaker. You wanted to ask you to really feel the pressure of it all because she just been in the bottom already so yeah I was still living in my fantasy world where I thought that the super fans had no idea there being made over so I was like Oh. She's going to go home because even they had the hug. Where Heidi you got to walk all the way to the back and like you guys harder about you know. They did the whole thing it was like. Oh that's so then. Of course it was a you know a non elimination. I think was a lot of fun because of the sort of two different approaches. The one thing I could not stop staring out though. It was high eighty with those sleeves when she was like windmilling them around. I thought that was so. She was trying to get her cocoa trees. Yeah that was that was. I couldn't stop staring at Heidi's WIG line. I kept like she was with the net hair around everywhere. I kept waiting for it to fall off the fact that she had that. Shit pinned and taped in there. So well girl. I give you major props for because I can't stand it when wigs fly up on the runway during the live sinks in the fact that she was working her ass off. But it's still sit on her head girl. You better work Completely agree and Jackie doing the humor. Like Gilda radner approach. I thought was also pretty fun. It made like a neat contrast with the two different approaches and for an Amazing Song. So here we are with a non elimination episode. We are still at our top six slash five and we will next week most likely be down to our top five slash four of which could be. Pretty Lake. Oh my God. I don't even know what to think or feel literally don't even know what's GonNa Happen Now. Like I feel like this was like a bit of a reset in my brain lake. Obviously not all of them are on the same playing field. But I honestly filling gets sort of anybody's game especially with what we know about Cherry Pie so this is actually I mean i. I was sort of bummed at the beginning of the season. Because like Oh my God this sherry politics like ruined everything but now that we know she's pretty much a non factor from here on out. I'm like This is interesting again. What's going to happen? Yeah and I agree with a like a such a solid group of girls it has. This has been a really fun season given what happened. Obviously really quickly. I do interrupt but Cherry Pie obviously not going to make the grand finale. So this is striking to me because we're at the top six and that means that two of Jackie. Heidi and crystal method are going to make the final four if they do a final four like that because Jerry. Pye Isn't there and so and somebody else isn't there so only one of them cannot be there. Two of them are going to be there if they do a top for those home next episodes. That's it I'm going to find a forest. I mean well. There's a part of are they going to do like a top three light you know like I could see Ruderman like fucked up top three but I really hope they do do a top four. It's kind of like really really up in the air because we don't even know what they're gonNA do in terms of filming because true that down so yeah I mean those. These are all like good points. Because let's let's work through it right so let's assume we lose someone next week and then we lose someone the week after so then. Does that group Agra before do they become the top three because like a month? You know you pointed out. We don't know what the finale is. GonNa look like unless any of you guys have any insight. I think Mike Bloom actually put up a poll. Awhile ago I don't know. Where does he tweets so much but it was like? What do you think is going to happen? Is it going to be an announcement? Do you think there's actually going to be some sort of lip sync competition? They don't know they don't know let's be like there's still like they're like us they're just like waiting for the world's reopened just like just pure speculation on my part but if I had to guess I would assume that they would probably follow the lead of other reality shows like survivor that are choosing to do Virtual Finales and so. They'll do that but I could see something like because virtual drag shows are all the rage nowadays because no one can go out to the clubs so I wouldn't be surprised if these queens that are in the in. The finale have a small team of people that get put together to create lift think performances Because gee-gee good was already doing that like as soon as the shutdown happened. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a final four. And they all independently create their own liftings. And then Rupaul like decides from there like I don't. I don't know interest. I don't know the so the ink masters. Apparently this is according to PIA on twitter. Inc Masters canceled their live finale. All three finalists received a cash prize. So I don't know if they would do something like an insane also are already came off the hills that Arthur ash and again. I don't do that shit again on that again. Yeah so I guess we'll just have to stay tuned It's possible could just like have them each do a lip sync like virtual of sink and then just name the winner like not not through a lip sync competition but just like you know to to quote Unquote Impress Roo. One last time and then name a winner like they did back through seasons one through eight well and that would make sense. They could do a top three right because then it doesn't have to be bracket you just play you eliminate Cherry Pie the final three. You do it that way. And then you have the winner announced. I could definitely see something like that but then. Oh yeah okay. Okay yeah the point yes. Yeah because if they do do the final four in but that was never mind never mind. Okay Yeah Okay Okay untucked. This week was boring so I don't know if anybody would say actually I didn't watch it again because again it taped after it's not. Dvr It's not taping untucked and I'm really annoyed about it because you re and a half hours. I don't know why it's because it's my my my. Dvr Is taping secret celebrity drag race but it for some reason it's not grabbing untucked. I don't know why it's not. It's drag race. Hello well next week. We get the mini challenge of puppets is back who think God so excited and our main challenge is going to be a one woman show with whoopie. Goldberg is our guest looking. Okay okay that it was how coincidental it was. That both Heidi Jackie war seventies outfits seventies lifting. Get your hat. People kids if they were like we have to make this team too so the two bitches of the disco outfits. You're going to be left singing right. Okay let's talk about secrets celebrity. Draw Grace Brian. How did you feel about this episode? This was a lot of fun. I didn't have as much fun as I did last week. With the three guys who were on the show but I still had a fantastic time. I couldn't believe it when Vanessa Williams walked out on again. I'm forty five years old so I was alive when Vanessa Williams was crowned the first black Miss America right was Miss America. Miss USA. I forget Yes Erica and I reserved on. Her crown was taken away from her. I remember being in the car with my mom and we heard the news on the radio. We were like you know. Traveling somewhere and they. They said her crown was taken away on the radio. And I was like why we knew that. Yeah and I'm almost like because they. They found these nudie pictures of her. And I'm like and like she won. How can they take it away from her? And no concept of the world at the time when I was eight years old but Yeah she she is the epitome of a good comeback because she lost everything and then came back stronger and has been giving us the best for last for the past twenty five years and we are loving her for it. So I love this Williams. Also I did see on her wikipedia page. It's been updated where they have all of her titles so mismatch missing. Orrick Missouri Cues America's next celebrity is right there at the top which I love I'm a mind. What did you think about this episode? I really enjoyed this episode. I made my heart warm then. All the contestants were black women older black men was a nice touch Lonnie love listen. I love her but I'm so appreciative. Of just how much emotion she was willing to share with us but she was going through something and it's episode soon in tears every other segment. I'm like what's going on Mama like. Are you okay like but she? She was clearly having an effect on her and I am glad that she was there. Felt like she really needed it. So I think that it is a much more Heartfelt and emotional more warm of an episode than the premier And I feel like they might be ramping it up. You know in terms of like the secret celebrity -ness of it all because I'm not as familiar with tammy roaming because I don't watch any. I don't watch basketball any of that. Yeah I do. I did know who she was So it looks like at least for me. I feel like they might be climbing Stare and how these how well knowing that celebrities are going to be because all three of these people. I was definitely more familiar with than last week. so it was. I thought I thought that it was really really cool. I thought that was just so. She wish her energy was so infectious. A love the fact that her and Eliza we're partners because I felt like they just they just felt like kindred spirit to me. She need a cocktail. All of that was just so funny. I take your point about Vanessa Williams. I'm also a bit of a Vanessa Williams Stan. I was first introduced to her through a little movie called Family Johnson Families Family vacation and I loved her in that and so I just yeah. It's just I felt like to actually have an idea of what the show was about. This one a little bit more smooth to me. I love the fact that they chose to do Larussa Coll- After that was a nice touch for the for the three of them as well. I just love this episode. All around I thought it was really really cool. Yeah I'm a Liana really quickly I Have I love Vanessa Williams but I loved her so much because I have an award show fan. You know how like I'm on is at Disney Stan. I'm like an award show Stan. I got an award show Gabe and so there was a time where Vanessa Williams was nominated for best supporting actress in a comedy series at the Emmys and it was for ugly Betty and there were it was like Amy Poehler and a bunch of other people and any polar got all of the women who were in the category to these weird eyeglasses. Like one had like like Sunglasses like these big glasses. One had like a monocle. One had like a little like little like disguises. Right okay. Then they're going through all of them and they're like you know any polar for a Saturday night live and you know like Julia Louis Dreyfuss for whatever it was like six people who are all supporting actresses and then Vanessa Williams and Vanessa Williams not only doesn't have the little outfit on that everybody else who was in on the gag did but she's also staring at the camera like I'm too famous for this shit. I watch wait this out. This is good said. Yeah that's the Williams. We love you and I but I I didn't know who the fuck tammy Roman was. She was a lot of fun and I loved her energy. Throughout this episode. I'll agree with them on on that but I didn't think she was a very good drag performer. Because when she came on the on the stage you could definitely tell the difference between Vanessa Williams and Lonnie love and somebody like Tammy. Roman who clearly doesn't have much of a stage background because Tammy wasn't giving us drag drag up sings. She was just sort of lip. Synching like you'd lip sing to the spoken word. Like her mouth wasn't big. She wasn't giving energy. She wasn't doing it extra like it was just like mouthing the words do you know where. I'm coming from not feel you. I think that if they both had a better idea of what they were supposed to do. And the fact that Vanessa Williams is a pageant grow already pageant girl So she's sort of like had she knew how to To carry herself on stage more so than the tammy would have and her and Rupaul have been friends for decades so going on here. Tim Forehand still. She was a judge right inside has been a judge George Strait. Yeah so without going up but I I was actually really interested. I was just thinking about the logic behind this episode being the second episode versus the first episode. I don't know maybe if this is kind of what they're going for is like Oh. We either wanted to pair this with the like makeover challenge because it was all women we have like women as competitors. Or because of Vanessa will I? I knew all three of these people. I did not know any of the people. Why New Niko but just I knew his name whereas like I was familiar with all three of these people so I thought that was kind of an interesting choice because obviously none of these have to be an order but but anyway and it was a great thing Asia Trinity Melissa Back on our screens as well. I think God Asia when she came out Let's let's make these butterflies lake fly or something we we can teachings butterflies how to fly. Yeah there was no good. What a good sense of humor you like have to Latin. We're halfway through your celebrity drag race so we'll have two more episodes of that coming up in the next couple weeks. I think that wraps everything up for us. So let's get out of here brand her you doing. What are you up to? I'm going to be podcasting this evening. So probably after you guys. Listen to this. And it's downloaded into the feed but there is an amazing game of Sequester. That's going to be played tonight between a bunch of twitter and youtubers and actors and entertainers and our own. Amman add win is playing in it. Taryn Armstrong playing in its. I'm very excited. I'M GONNA be on cursed Kennison's channel calling the action during the breaks and I'm hoping for in Amman Taryn Vinyl to hear anyway. That's where I'll be. You can always find me at one lucky gay on twitter. That's one spelled out E and I'm living my best live how you doing and well Amman. You are playing the game tonight. Although probably by the time most people here this you all have hopefully one right away. I'm going to do my damndest but you can also follow me on. Add Win and check out all the stuff that I got going on over there all right and you can follow me on. Twitter outlay on our age this week for the RTP BNB. Mike and I talk to Lauren Beck from survivor. Season thirty nine. She was forgetting so we play some insane games. 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The Masked Singer | Season 3 Episode 10 RHAPup

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The Masked Singer | Season 3 Episode 10 RHAPup

"Hello and welcome back to the mass singer. Hops pop jazz where? I don't know if you've heard where the super nine We get to revisit people who we have not seen on the show in quite some time and we get to talk about all the nonsense situations that the show put us in in a very fun but somewhat uncomfortable to our super nine. I am your host the rubber chickens and Mickey. Leigh and I'm not going to try and do the April fools thing of. Oh I don't have a co host this week or so co-host left and now we got a new co host. Is the one person always here? Ready to talk singer with me. It's Liana the whoopee cushion or Liana. How're you doing today? You might have to find a new CO host. This is so boring clue. Packages were literally just recaps within a quote unquote super clue at the end. There was so much filler. I totally felt you with the the the in betweens with other contestants when they swapped masks April fools day got cancelled because of covert nineteen. I know that they've filmed this way before. This was ever a problem but still. It's no Eric from San Bernardino but my God off not okay. So the April Fools yes. It is an insensitive time to be trying to pull the wool over ones is when the reality of the world is harsh as it is but it's just be cancelled outright. Why do we need a day where everyone is going to go out of their way to out? Dick one another. I'm not I'm not about that life. I'm not about the. Oh I have an announcement to make on my facebook just kidding. I didn't do that. They said I was going to do. Or Hey just did a new thing and it's like a picture of like the net flicks head studio checkout. Sorry kidding don't have a show. I'm actually just sat on looking for attention like why April fool's Day it was created by. Hallmark is a ploy to sell cards so that that is true. You're trying to fool me. I know that's a Valentine's Day thing that's not a theory. It's not as April fools and birthdays. Okay no home. Yeah no I can't even dive into. I can't believe I'd rather celebrate Arbor Day. Let's go plant the trees stopping dicks to each other. We get started petition to cancel. April fool's Day you know. My grandma's birthday was on April fools. Day Yeah on. We should have that day known as your Nana's birthday not as April fool's Day and not as the Bananas Birthday Nana's birthday I. I just WANNA keep bantering. Because I really don't want to start the show by talking about the ABC parody which was just bad so bad. I've heard Wanda better lyrics and it was. They put the lyrics at the bottom. And so you could see how they're trying to stretch it like be named can John. They named Nick Cannon and they named Jenny not even her full name. Because it wouldn't work but just Jenny so Nicole Scherzinger Robin Thicke weren't even mentioned in the parody. So that was the thing. I think it's one of those things where they're like eight so we need. We need a song for the three groups for ABC. Oh my God wait. Abc EASIEST ONE. Two three okay. That's the song we're using and then they did the lyrics because it was not well thought out. The only thing that I thought was smart was the ABC thing. And that's part of the actual song I will say. I like the concept. Okay really loved the concept just the execution was a little. I like the idea that I like the idea warmer performance singing together. But I don't like actually seeing that I- performances together right well or in a music video type format the cream of the mask crop. That's a phrase that was said this episode. Let's pretend that I. It wasn't so the cream of the mountain mass top. What are you even talking about? You know the top of the mountain. I don't know basically these added mask to it to make. But anyways Eric from San Bernardino was an upsetting segue because I genuinely would have loved to see Snoop Dogg on the panel but it wasn't snoop Dogg. It was annoying. It was very irritating and I was very you block. Here's what you don't do my singer. You don't advert you. Don't pretend there's a panelists that actually makes the panel exciting for a change and then take them away from me and tell me necessarily enjoy the next hour and a half with just these four people that you've seen every episode. Yeah I get that I think I would rather have okay so in my ideal world I would rather have had snoop dogg but if they're going to play a prank the fact that they picked not a known. Snoop Dogg impersonator. But just Nick Cannon's Buddy I San Bernardino which I loved it. That was his name. Eric from San Bernardino. That was that did make me laugh. In retrospect although yes it would have been better to have snoop. Dogg here yes. I'm just sad. I like Snoop Dogg and I approvals April fools however when I also don't approve of we're really starting on a negative. I had fun with the subsidies. Want to put that out there before. It sounds like I'm just coming in here. Salty but so the format so this is what we're doing tonight with this episode. So we're going to go through the first three performance all group. A and then there's GonNa be a vote and the bottom from group goes to the bottom great and then Groupie and a group C. That's how that's GONNA go. What did you think of this as a way to go about dealing with the supernatural? What is the point of having it still be in groups a B and c? But yet you're going to call it the super dyers or all performers together. But you're still gonNA divvy them up. Was it like a filming thing that they had to film over separate days or something like that so they wanted to all group grouped together. Be Together see together. I don't get it. Why couldn't you just vote for the worst performer at the end? Or something like that. Maybe it was to me like too many performances. They wanted to let the audience vogues otherwise they would forget like. Oh Group A would get screwed or something like that. I don't know but like I I don't get it then as possible but I just think that they they really messed up. I mean they really did. Advertise this as a super nine as if a super nine is a thing and by last week I was. Yep the super nine. That's what it is and that's what I know. It has and even the car on the show when we went to commercial domestic or super-9. Good Marketing to get that to become a thing with they failed to do was make it matter because all it did was hit the bottom three from each group against each other and that doesn't really matter ultimately and it's not like this format is going to continue because spoiler alert next week we're going to go back to two groups of four we are. Yeah so that's the format next. Week is two groups of four with the return of the smackdown. Oh well good thing. We had the super nine then like whatever I mean. Okay look here's the thing I don't come to Massingir for logic. Okay come to the mass thing. Oh yeah that makes sense so you know what it's fine. It's fine everything's fine doing. Oh who's going to be in what group that is a good question. We can look it up at some point before we dive into the questions. Okay so we haven't talking about the warrant happy about. Let's talk about something that hobby were both happy about? And that's the turtle. What did you think of the turtle this on this episode the Super Nine Okay? So first of all. We're not I don't know how you want to do it. But I got nothing from the clues so I'm is just a recap of clues and then we got the one super clue at the end. Which is that. He's a Superhero. Right or like played a superhero or something so superheroes so he is so. I think for this episode weekend will go in. It's the turtle and then if you think of any clues that stood out to you talk about them otherwise you can just say your general thoughts about the performance and all that so last week Liana bars. You mentioned that you are not gonNA look at the visual clues anymore. Going to focus on the audio and now you're telling me that the Super Glue was comic book thing. No the super clue. He said confession. This is not another teen clue. Okay but either his confessions. No it's not. Usher don't even try and Segue. There wasn't all that much with these with these clues. The packers were kind of formatted in a bit of a recap. I assume so that people who have missed out on any episodes can come back and see what's been going on since they left and The turtle talked about doing ten K. Runs in preparation for these shows with the with the bad like with the costume on and they do Corio now even though they're not a dancer just talking about what they're doing to get to the performances that they've been putting out so which doesn't really help and figuring out the identity of the person that just kind of gives you an insight into what they're doing so yeah you're right. Yeah only clue. Was the super clue that was added this week and even that. I think a couple of them were strong for other performers. But this one didn't really give me anything to work with any say. This is Jesse McCartney think I believe so? Okay Yeah I don't know I have no idea. I got nothing from this but the performance. I really did like this. Reminded me of how much the turtle and feel good about his chances to go pretty far in the competition. I thought that it was a great song. Choice that that was a good performance and plus the performance quality here was wow just amazing which I did feel bad especially for the Kangaroo. Who goes names like sorry? You don't get a choir backup dancers or like Confetti. We'll say the backup dancers look like decorations. You could find Kia like little red men with the heart thing on it. That didn't look like something you can find. Kia think you're looking at the heart. Like logo read people. You know how they have the the for the Scott this for sketching movable guys to idea oh I know but it just doesn't it just it looks like whatever not important anyway. Yeah I thought this is a good performance. I feel good about the turtles chances so I thought the performance of higher love by Steve when it was very nice. I like the I like this rendition of the song and I do agree. I think that they like the turtle through everything in the kitchen sink. Into this performance it felt like there was a disco ball that I was into the background. Had these big hearts that was great and like you know all of that and the voice from the turtle was incredible across. The work was great. It was a lot of razzle-dazzle with choir there I always I was into this. I could see the turtle making it to the final two is what have my notes. And that's how I feel. I agree the background dancers. Were like creepy to me. They I know they're supposed to be like romantic because like the heart motif but they just looked creepy and there were read more suits. That doesn't do anything for me. So that was probably the lowest point performance for me. Everything else was an ace so overall I really liked it and like I said final two as possible reason our final who's because unworried about the turtle having a very similar to the rottweiler which I was not happy about last season and I will be happy about this season even though I love whereas in the final two anyways well I think the morph suits. They must've gotten a deal on at some point in time they were like by one in every color because they have so many different more suits balls. Oh the Oh we'll talk. Oh honey I have feelings about. The inflatable suits the block. Ip's feeling I got a feeling of ood awful saw that inflatable seats. They're gonNA wait. Tonight's my try on Gandara well so when it came to the judges and their comments in guesses we learnt that there is a new thing this week. Not No. They're not going to get April fool pranks given to the judges. They're not gonNA do that but they're gonNA do is say one thing that they're not. I enjoyed this. I think this was a very fun way for them to try something. New and in the cases of some of the performers genuinely helped me narrow stuff down and you know eliminate complete justice that were going the other way so. This is a fun element for me. How was it for you well? It was really only helpful. I felt like for the banana. What was the turtles? I didn't even write it down. It was something about like. I'm not just known for one thing right. I'm not known for just one thing which thanks I mean. It's a good one. If you consider the fear someone was focusing on just like actors. Or just singers. Oh no no no. This is someone who might have done both. So then you start broadens your horizon. It's like okay so they are singer but do they have an IMDB page and look at Real Quick. Oh you know what they do have an MD page. Okay so I'm trying to figure out so it's good. It's good if you're focusing on one thing. I guess I'll see I mean despite all that can still has brun literally when pretty sure only the boxer boys Indus- nothing else sees only known for one thing so is drooling Shea. I mean he's known as part of the band ninety degrees but then also Niklas brothers. So that's too thanks. Does that count? Yeah I think so. Oh my gosh. Another reminds me of in. Love is blind. When Vanessa shows like I'm Vanessa Lucia inequity. Obviously Nick O'Shea yeah. They were choices for the as the host for that show. I'm obviously what's Nicholas's brother Bryan Bryan grew? I wanted to. Who are the other two ninety degrees? I honestly cannot even tell you I would if someone was like. Hey who is ninety degrees? I'll be like Oh. Yeah that's Nicholas Shays Group. I wasn't his brother and that would be the end of the conversation. Nicholas a Drooler Shea. Kevin La- Shea and Jolie Shay Yeah but only two of them were in the four. No not all four of them. Go check in drill. I'm looking I'm looking at the WIKIPEDIA page right now. Jeff Timmons and just in Jeffrey or the other tools. Are you frigging kidding me on April Fools Day so stupid people digging each other? Then you're GonNa give me on April Fools Day also April third third. Oh happy April third. Okay whatever I get it. You just work for Hallmark. Now is our. You're trying to tell me a while. You're not getting April Fools Day card this year buddy you why would you April Fools Day? Me I'm making April April fools. Jj Okay we'll put this okay so you're pro April thousand and even a good pray that was banter amongst friends. Okay as April third. We are playing a game tonight with a bunch of people's on trying to play. Nice right now because I'm not about to get whatever you get. Outta here I will. Don't even try me. Bro. Dobro Fam- anyways. We're GONNA move on shut up so so yeah. Jewish a was Robin Thicke. Brian Latrobe was Ken. Steve My day was Jeff. Timmons or just Jeffrey the other two. I hate the episode interludes. I mentioned this last week. I know you've come around to it but it just does nothing for me. It's not funny. Oh we're the four performers that we've swapped masks around your the Rhino Not. Now Ha no. It's not great. I can see the appeal as it is a family. Show that in a family. It works at understand that this show isn't made for twenty eight year old puja but I have. I have a right to express my like my dislike that of online. Or even your unlike unlike now we can talk about the kangaroo and the kangaroo is here to bounce back after being vilified by the kangaroo rumors and they've been put through hell last year and they're super clue was a little inflatable kangaroo that they got on sale somewhere and then set. Alright dolls do you know who I am now. Question Mark I think this is just. The kangaroo has a baby which is super useful because no one has kid this new. We've been new. She's already said little room before. Rising the thing. Yeah this is a super bowl. It's gotta be something New Right. No I mean I would assume so too. Oh Okay so oh okay all right I get it so you're saying it's new so that means it's not about a baby it's about something else. I would hope so if it is. The baby got irritates me because hey we already knew that So I don't know are adults someone's catchphrase. Someone says all right dolls may be. I don't know I personally don't really have any strong of a guest. I go back to the whole being vilified by rumors of being put through hell when rob was our guest. The first week I went down a rabbit hole of trying to find Hollywood's biggest beefs from the past year and I landed on the Khloe Kardashian Clo- recording one of them versus Jordan Woods. Who doesn't have a wiki page so I can't even try and like verify but that is the closest I've come and then we her clue package back in. What does the absolute three where they? They're like their brother was like a plant person and it looked like it was a cabin in the woods and like the last name as woods. So that's kind of where I'm squatting for now. I don't feel that strongly about it but I have zero other directions. I take so we'll see where it goes. Kangaroo still an unknown for me yeah unknown for me as well I have no idea. I've no idea who this is. We could limit it to people that have children. You know so. That's helpful dude. I don't know this episode was a struggle. It was so much filler. Look I love the massing? Come on man. This is a lot I think. Having it'd be a two hour episode with one boo and the format was not great so there were some choices such as that could've made to spruce it up but it did drag a little bit and I can't imagine we watched it later with no commercials. I can't imagine watching it with full commercials to for two hours. Yeah ferrall yeah but Liana clearly not stranger to making enemies of the song was not ready to make nice by the dixie chicks. I don't really know the dixie chicks or listen to the dixie chicks but I love the kangaroos voice. I really enjoyed the chandelier and the on the stage and the background I love that but ultimately it was pretty home basic of a performance not a bottom three performance by any means but also not a top three performance it was a very very decent middle performance and production that went into the turtles performance. We got a little bit of pedals. Further kangaroo and that was it bad like they used up all their production budget on the turtle or or the Chandelier. Just cost a buck and a half. They clearly didn't get that at the knockoff. Wish dollar store so Yeah I thought this was a good performance. I really love the dixie. Chicks chicks. I love the song so I was pleased to see it especially because they thought she was. GonNa Sing Rachel. What's her faces? Fight Song based on her clue package I was. I was pleased that she chose the dixie chicks. I would completely agree with you. Literally wrote overall decent probably a middle slot so I think I have the feeling that the kangaroo isn't going to be one of the few Or well we'll talk. I think she should fall in the middle. Okay Yeah I think yeah if we power rank them. She's between fourth to seventh right. I would agree that yes I would agree that Yes yes yes okay her facto so her what are you not are what you are not known four or whatever that was she said. I've never it's because I short formed into my notes after the first one and I wrote W Y N and I don't remember what stood for so if I go up real quick one thing you're not okay W there what? You're not okay. Whatever I've never lived in Australia. That doesn't help. I knew you Australia. I knew I knew. The kangaroo was just the choice so that was awful clue as a choice. Yeah so as Robin Thicke that we know. Now we know it's not a key as Alia is that's all would eliminate and adult the anyone who was on some of the guesses your but it was struggled for me agenda. Mccarthy woman amber rose no. It's not amber rose. I can I know that for a fact then. Leeann rhymes don't really know her Nicole. Guests in India are re was robin. Thicke which I also do not know her so I can't verify those clues to being close or those guesses to being close. Yeah it's definitely not amber rose and it's not no. It's not enough of them. I don't know I don't know who the last person is. But it's probably incorrect. That's just now. Write rhymes Leeann rhines. She's a singer. She liked part of a group or something. No she is like I mean not that I know of I. Think she's just a solo artist. Which honora country. Okay Okay Gotcha. Yeah sorry Leeann rhymes sorry then. Mean any harm or slander. How rude you're listening. I apologize so we're okay. You Better Apologize Lien so listen to this fine. The man of the hour the performer. Who Ends up saying. It's the white tiger I wrote. I don't care for the clue packages in my notes and then I just have the super clue which was Swish Swish. Which actually is a good clue because it's a new one and it talks about how I mean. If you figure it out obviously at the end they tell you that it was because he was a part of Katy Perry's music video for Swish Swish. And he was doing the the floss. Which is the backpack. Kids dance was also in that video Yeah so I guess. I share similar sentiments. Okay so what do I have to say about the white tiger so you said in the pre show that you were going to sing right set. Fred's I'm too sexy into in White Tigers way so take the stage. Hush shut up. Why are you trying to April Fools Day? Two days later thing off. When did I say that win? Did I say that the seventy five dollar patrons will know that is a complete lie? This was a weird issued of what is already a weird song. All-sided I'm looking at the lyrics right now and I didn't know the lyrics beyond I'm too sexy for my shirt so this trip for me. Yeah Okay I wrote down here. Let me just okay. Let me just give you my notes that I wrote down. Okay I wrote. What the Hell am I watching dot? This is bad. What a waste of a good costume. Because I thought that the white tigers costume is a fantastic fans of the White Tiger. But it's just show challenging to listen to all the other performers here and be like. Oh Yeah No. I'm cool with watching this. No now also. This is the first one with the inflatable costume. And this I oh my God i. It was like the knockoff knockoff. Generic knockoff version. That mean that's like Oh when you order it online or like the wish me more. It's like Oh and you get it on wish or the mom we I want. I want an inflatable lion cost you. We have inflatable lion costume at home. What's at home this? Oh my goodness it was ugly. Why was it weirdly fat? It didn't stay inflated. Why was it on a stripper pole? I because okay. I got this one so your last question last question. Why is it dancing on a stripper? Pole coming to the main stage is the inflatable line stripper at main lines main. Listen I'm with you okay. I thought I saw my notes aren't too dissimilar from yours. I said what am I even watching? I do like the background but I hate everything else. And then what the philophical this inflatable lion stripper. And I didn't say fil awful it. It was a strange performance and I do share the sentiment of I don't want to like I'm not trying to rain on the parade of any White Lion Fans because people were gracious enough to let me enjoy my leopard moment last season but ultimately there's no talent here if I'm going to vote you through because you're saying too sexy for my party to sexy. Anyone can do that. I can do that. Anyone can do wrong. Scott the moves gronk thinking that his dance moves are unique is comical so no anyone can do that. What anything that GRONK can do. Everyone can do better so it was uncomfortable bomb. Yeah I was just like honestly I'm not kidding. If for some reason the white tiger survived this performance. I don't know if we should just clan so the podcast. No just for an episode. Because I don't think anyone wants the heroes complaint for an hour which feels that we've done fifteen minutes maybe twenty but like there was other stuff to talk and we got the Ken cut out. Oh Yeah can't cut made a return. I mean they have to make but this was a different one wasn't the other one big face cut. It was really giant face. This was like one of the ones that you have at the movie rental store. You know what I mean. It's like advertise like. Where did they even get that from a thing or did they actually make that? I think they must amita no. I don't know anyway so that was also a choice again. More filler. Sell fine fine. Well my favorite comment of the night from the judges was toward the white tiger. Where they said when you're seeing your like we'll just pick any note. Why are you wearing I okay? I picture the White Tiger going into going to a cupboard. Yeah y'all take this one. I think be minor plus Banjo music. Plus how about a little bit of give me a little bit of the William Hung Sprinkle? Yeah and then just a just a dash of nine year old boy dancing at a birthday party okay. Perfect Guy Walks. I don't think legally at counselors singing we had an adjudicator that'd be like this is not a vocal performances. Okay Yeah Things. Maury you called me Mori Yeah. This is not the father the father. That's Maury thing I get it but I'm calling Maury don't Mori me. If you don't know me I don't even know what that is. Well then doing what is happening. Sequester is getting to you know I think I think I think we need to talk about the one thing that the white tiger is not in the White Tiger said. I'm not just bronze. I'm brains I wrote a bestseller. Oh my God oh my God when he said that I was like okay. Yeah sure you wrote a book like you feel like you're listed as the author but you certainly did not write that book my God unless it's just a compilation of his tweet. If they're in which case then yes I would believe he wrote the tweets would even then just a small percentage of the time. I don't like it so. Jj Watt was a guess. Then Nicole Diaz Gino. Jj First of all. Let me just say this. I know that. Jj Watt was on the League. Jj Watt has more self respect. Then there's like no one would debase themselves in such a way like Gronkowski. Okay so clearly rob Gronkowski. I will not be the end for the landowner. Who IS THE HIPPO FROM SEASON? One Antonio Brown himself debase defaced. What did you say to based like base? No no debase. It means to re like to reduce the quality or like to make worse or he based himself and then it was all downhill from there. Well Yeah but you know I mean that was. That was different okay. There's there's no debate about it a debate about it. Okay Yeah So. Did you enjoy Nicole? Butchering all the names and saying Rob Gorgonzola Rob Garbanzo bean and then guessing Joe Macaroni. Which ended up being Joe Manganiello? Yeah I mean reminds me of neck. Macaroni so I'm okay. If your last name was a food what would it be? Zanu Akilah. That's hard. I feel like Paninis. Zan Julian Penny this on some yeah okay Zan Panini that's not bad. Okay we'll be flon flan clam clamp clam Panini okay. Yeah that's pretty close. Okay well Liana. Boris be Liana snore s stagnant. What's a food there is of? Boris Loris no schooners. The promise you haven't us show so it's hard to put those together. Only on a couscous. Yeah I mean. I don't have anything better so I can't really. Hey how's that this is the part where people are going to pause the podcast in. Addis with obvious names that were front of us the entire or they're just going to shut it off the podcast messing content here for whatever this is okay. Well if you're about to hop off much left all of you thank you for making it thirty five minutes in your view. Don't don't follow me on twitter. Just find our website. Do The rate and Review Rob's website dot com slash massing or one word Eliana. Ihop at all right. So where were so the clues the guess now all of those? And we get to okay. Who's the bottom? Who's the bottom three? Oh my God. Everyone's on their on pins and needles. Oh we're going to break before the guest reveal of course nick cannon. That's what you do best and then we come back and it's the white tiger no-one shocked. I was like kind of shock because bready just to be angry and disappointed. That's good that's good like set a low bar for you for it and then just be like all right. Look if it's not the White Tiger least I'm prepared to be angry but if it isn't like Oh yeah okay. Good great finally. The audience made the right call. So here we are. Yeah okay so that wraps up the group a folk and all right. So we're going to jump into group. B Here we have the kitty the banana and of course the frog now. Have you felt seeing our groupie friends make comeback here? Yeah it was nice to see groupie back. I mean. Obviously it hadn't been as long as Seen Group A so so. That's the thing that happened but for this one. I was actually really reminded. How good the Kitty is and this performance in particular solidified. How strong the FROG is. Because I didn't think that the vocal performances from the frog and the first set of a groups was particularly amazing but this one with jump by Kriss. Kross was so so good I think Kitty and frogger actually too long game contenders long game and game and I mean we. I saw the frog. You're very on the frog. And how was the one that was a little bit like now? I'm not really feeling it. And then ever since I have not looked back in it's been it's been a good ride but kitty someone think is being slept on. I think no no one's really talking about the Kitty and I think the kitty someone who is very easily a top five in the entire remaining cast and could honestly go to win at all. Even I'm old enough to say but let's talk about the Kitty right off the bat here. Freak flag fly was the thing that was said in the package that I thought could be a thing as starting young struggle to myself image and the super clue we had the The tree come out from last season and Katie said. Christmas is the most wonderful time of the year. Did any of those Speak to you and help you inform yourself or us of a decision on who could be. I don't know what I'm wearing at this point but we're gonNA run with it. I think hideous top four not just top five. I really really like they for the super clue. I thought that it could be a Christmas related thing. It could be an Anna Gassar thing could be an SNL thing. I wasn't exactly sure what the connection is. Part of that is because I have literally no idea who the kitty is but whoever it is. I'm definitely rooting for them. The Balls Kitty Cat. Yarn balls that takes to choose. It's all coming back to me by celine. Dion is amazing and she's just so so so sad what I'm saying that she could win on but I could also see her getting robbed at the end. We'll see how it all goes down. But so did you have any new feelings. You have about the clues we got. Okay honestly you know like I said I was so dry blacks from the Kitty. I think it's up one more seasoned so. That's that's how I feel. I know Mike said Sarah Hyland when he was on with us. I don't think it's our highland but You know the closer we get the more clues will. Maybe we'll get there who knows a but the kitty did. It's all coming back to me now by Selene Dion. I love her voice. She's nothing going for the whole time. He eater vibe which I gotten like. I think you can compare her like I think you can compare to the kangaroo in the sense that they both went more vocal based but the kiddies way better at both using her hocus to command the stage and the performance whereas the kangaroo has good vocals but doesn't really do enough to bring it all together in a collaborative process to make a amazing amazing So that's where that's where it's supper the kangaroos W mid-tier closer to the lower end whereas the kiddies top-five pushing top three. Yeah definitely one hundred percent. She's just a stronger singer and I don't know what was her clue. Her her anti clue talker a jet. I rule ooh yeah. That one's off. I have no idea. I'm sure of course when you look back on it. Oh Blah but like for now. I'd see Nicole Richie of Vanessa Hudgens. Murrah birds are Levin. I don't think any of the four Vanessa. Hudgens might be the closest one for me but not even a via the clues via who I think they would get. Who would be good enough of a singer to be included? Oh No it definitely can't be averill Levin because she's dead and has been replaced by Melissa in the absolutely very true conspiracy theory. Was that her name now. Turn on that. He's necessary totally real and it's about a good time as any to appeal away onto the next one and talk about the banana. I don't have all that much from the clue package of the banana. I wrote that. Imagine they were a party boy looking for a good time. And that there's super clue was A mullet so that's about as far as I got now. I personally do not have flu who this could be especially when we learned to about the new. What are you not clue for the bananas at Blue Collar? I'm a Funny Guy. But not a stand but not stand up funny. So that eliminates Jeff Foxworthy that eliminates any of the blue collar comedy tour which everyone was talking about so now I'm back to square one. Okay this is the person. I'm super excited to talk about because so I don't even know how to. How do I start this you know? How do I get so mullet? Okay remember how is on the whole like hairband thing? This is like weeks ago. This was so hard for me to remember clues but thankfully I have my trusty posted notes here so I was GonNa pick out episode of either rock of love or flavor of love or I love New York for you. Watch because remember. I'm going to get you to watch the classic. Vh1 reality TV shows. So I was able to find the first episode of Rock of love. I start watching it. Yes what is in literally the first like two minutes of rock of love. He built a motorcross track in his backyard for his two daughters immediately. My thought was the banana because remember when he had his like family members or friends come. It was his two daughters talking about how he built a race track in the backyard for them. I think it's Bret michaels which then totally fits with my other theory from before that. It's somebody who's in hairband empoisoned every rose has its thorn and others and so. I think it's Michael's I don't I can't I am not a big poison fan so I can't tell from the voice but from watching that episode of Rock of love. I mean come on in. It sounds like it does. I don't know if any of these facts. You're spitting are factual because I can't verify because I haven't seen rockets love but now you will. And then when it gets revealed that it's Bret Michaels you'll be like Oh my God. I'm so excited to watch rock of love what happens on seasons one two and three also. Because now you know. There's three days and spoiler alert seasons wanted to do not necessarily work out all that great for one Bret Michaels. Okay well I will get back to you on that when I eventually watch rock of love on I will say however that this was okay. The performance was fine. Ios Speed Home Alabama by Leonard Skinner. Those very clear before the July team performance there was the banana split. Obviously being a staple of it And being fetish is it was fine. It wasn't amazing. The sexy Mac. Tonight's were out thing happened. They need to retire. That mask on replacement something else. I'm sure there's better banana masks out but it's good to know that whatever costume store. They went to still recognize his MAC. Tonight as a thing but that's about all her woman. Bananas I know I know we make the joke that they're Mac. Tonight masks today very much look like but they're not moons. They're definitely bananas. I mean they're just Max tonight masks spray painted bones or yellow so really getting. Yeah well this is where I was talking about the deal on the morph suits because here. We have the picnic blanket. Morph suits that we have the dancers and but I thought this was a performance. This is a good song choice for the banana. I mean I still think he's probably like bottom two or three now that we know that garbage cat is gone. So I think he's probably GONNA be out next second next but whatever or Bret michaels or not but a good week for owners of Tigers Right. Brad Michael Tigar. No but white tiger costume was owned by Gronkowski. Who is out? Oh sure yeah okay yeah. Let's really tiger king because I think that's actually a requirement in media. Everything must be related to tiger king. At least one reference to at least one joke about Carol Baskin and her killing her husband her husband. Yes yes yes. Yeah and then yeah I think that's that's an issue to your in the minimum of your clearing. Okay got good gun on. Yeah so the judges went with Leon once again you and Jenny McCarthy cut from the same cloth you both think is Bret Michaels and Robin Thicke. Thinks it's billy ray Cyrus which I did not need to see the banana or Michael's twerk or booty pop or whatever that was supposed to be Yes sorry I was still thinking about the fact that Johnny stole my guess which I had that gas before because I have it here in on a post it note. If anybody wants to check it says motorcross track two daughters. Bret michaels banana and then I wrote. I drew a picture of a cube and then I wrote two to one and then I wrote quote Kinda not a great spot to be in which I don't know what those things referenced. But still I have the proof. The proof is on the posted posted. Note notarized and date stamped but this is more proof than you would need for Carol Baskin to prove murdering her husband. Look I tried to make a reference and I got confused. It's okay you try better next time champ Is there anything else? You would like to talk a banana here before we split. No let's not monkey around. You can't go while you think the next on trying to decide if the one you did was good or not. Cowan's monkey banana like play Word Association. Game what are other words that you think of? I don't know call me George because I'm very curious on what you just did. See but that's like a train of thought from the Monkey. So that gives validation to my monkey theory. What do you WanNa pat on the back? Like you WANNA banner behind. It would be great. I prefer a trophy but either way what would this trophy. Say Twenty twenty. Don't even think I deserve that. Um Man all right. We're talking about the frog now. Do deserve off on. Oh come on. I was doing done that one a lot. I hope you have a notebook out as I've got my lily pad ready for the frog. Read it Ribbit segue anyway so the frog so the frog is here and who better to talk about package of the frog and the number one frog fan. Boris No. You're the number one fan health. Would you brought your name now? Did you change your name? Congratulations although we'll get very confusing on the podcast. If we're both Boris would you like for me to take the reins because it sounds like you're trying to avoid talking about the from no okay? First of all super clue night. Don't know what that means. Don't care because I want to talk about the performance which first of all jump. I Criss Cross aim. Mazing song choice by the frog was so good. It proved that he can sing. He CAN DANCE. He can sing wall doing the dance which I would say that. Probably my biggest criticism of the frogs I mentioned earlier was his lack of singing ability. But this to me was a Fox level performance. I really really liked it. I don't know if that was the fact that they had some time off and we know that when they filmed previously it was essentially re performances. Like back to back to back. You could have just been tired but frog being all rested. Getting his share of flies is great and I really loved it. The only thing I have to complain about is the fact that is closed on backwards but I will survive okay. Well some of us have been in the frog. Is this season's the Fox camp? So it's nice of you to join US okay. I'm not permanent. Yeah okay but I don't Wanna I don't WanNa buy I'm just GonNa rent okay for now. No no because I'm not ready to commit to it yet. No lease nor rent you either buy or you go by okay. Finally I go bye bye bye bye go to the other camp. The White Tiger camp So yeah so. I thought this was a great choice for the frog. This was a very very very very good choice by the frog jumps is a very engaging song in that. It's a crowd pleaser. Everyone likes it. Everyone knows it remembers it and you can easily dance to it. You can show your chops with regards to wrapping or at least being very quick with the lyrics and the frog did a perfect job here kept up with some choreography dig gut. The movements even was able to show off in there. What are you not thing with the judge by saying? I'm not a trained dancer at all. So He's already dazzled them with the dance and that was a you know. This isn't even me my final form because it's not professional this just what I do you know as I do what I do so I loved it. I JUST. It was very fun. The dancers LoC- like pickles. The had become frogs so that was fun but this was a very very good performance for me. I I still maintain what I said. Last week I think the frog is to me one of the top contenders to take all because they are multifaceted and at the end of the day they turn out a fun fun performance for the audience. And that's all you really need to get the votes so very very happy with frog and also we bid New Orleans. I've been new died. This is still bow and nothing has changed for me. And that's where we're not. Yeah but the. The shirts were really ugly. It looked like someone just went to a screen printing shop and got lazy and just printed like crap which we just put jump on there. It'll be fine. Oh and don't even bother wearing a backwards. Come on how do you do crisscrossing not wear clothes backwards like what a missed opportunity for men is wearing a full costume. It's crisscross. They managed to dress up the monster in different ways. Fine don't even put just just put his jacket on backwards or don't even put his out on backwards but the backup dancers outfits on backwards all you. Pray can't tell that they're backwards. Says there dockers they probably were on backwards? There's just so ugly. Yeah that's the thing is like the the frogs wearing a suit jacket and if you put a suit Jerem backwards your front words. Show hands so him a different jacket. That just like did crisscross. Actually I think they actually turn their clothes around backwards. But that's not the point so him a jacket. That looks like it's backwards. You're really trying to split hairs here on the frogs performance China Nitpick a problem I don't get it. Well you know what I don't close backwards so okay. Here's an article from twenty thirteen. Chris Mac Daddy explains why he still wears his pants backwards. It's all crisscross. Has Criss Cross jump as a very one hit wonder? This is all they're known for. Of course I'm going. Wear their clothes. Backwards MC Hammer. Is the only person still wearing pants? Probably and and and crisscross don't have to wear a forty pound costume. Yeah okay fine and and you know what else is strange? In what world is Ken John? Thinking Cisco After Just One jab from the frog because of the Thong Thong Thong reference. Is that enough to get Robin Thicke again? Being the closest Amari on which I know this isn't but that is a great guest for the frog given what we know and what we are seeing. Yeah yeah all right well it might just be about four PM here but it is nighttime somewhere else. And where there's there's angels. Here's the night angel time actually. Maybe we should just quickly say banana. Is the bottom vote getter. But I don't think we're shocked where you shop. No I was not shocked here and very happy with the outcome. Say Very might say okay. So this is we take a break here. A word from our sponsors shore. Okay you know what that is a great idea Liana. We'll be back after we had a message from some sponsors and we're back thanks to Liana. Who Kept US on track? Yeah baby got back. Okay Well Okay Sarah Palin. Well baby got back tied. Five Sir Paola. Let's go just hate it when you wake up and you see Russia from Your House on what is happening. You hijack the podcast well. I'm supposed to be social distance. But that's just normal life here in Alaska. It's not me please please you. So the night angel got came through and talked about the avoided putting themselves front and Center for years. They helped others. There're success and also their fake accent is very annoying and then they're super clue tricycle. Now Liana as the number one now I know for sure night Angel Fan. What are you making these clues? Do you feel confident. And who this is enlighten us. Okay Oscillate between. I am one hundred percent confident. I note months lake can John. I know exactly who this is between ore. I've no fricking clue because all I hear when she sings is candy. Boris but then I see the tricycle. And I'm like I have no idea what that means like escape had four. People tricycles have three wheels unless there's a mini secret wheel I don't know about. I HAVE NO IDEA. I have no idea what it means. She is not a clown. What else do tricycles me a threesome. A threesome I don't know maybe cannabis has been in a threesome. I actually based on her song that I'm obsessed with that would actually make sense but I think it's Kandi burruss okay. You know what it doesn't matter you know it doesn't it doesn't matter because she's amazing and she's Mike Winner pick and I love her and I don't care that her Hossam looks like a sex doll with its open mouth. She's just amazing. So I don't know who this is but I also you said even if you don't know so you might not know that you telling me. There is a chance you might be wrong. I just want to get that on record. So that if it's not candy birds we can make fun of you. Yeah I mean look if it's not bars and I'm completely wrong which I very well might be. You are allowed to make fun of me but just like when she started singing high here but then I don't the clues me and then sometimes they hear singing a different way. And I'm like kidney pursing that way. I think so. I don't know but denied angels amazing that we agree on the night. Angel is amazing. I really really love her voice and and and I really really like feeling like I'm in the clouds which is what her background to me. Yeah the clouds those were heard. I liked it. I what I hate or the dancers. I don't know what the dancers were supposed to be. Not a fan of that but everything else I liked. I thought she killed it and I believe it was John who said by far the best vocals of the night which I would have to agree despite having heard the turtle despite having heard the Kitty I think the night. Angel is the strongest vocal performer. Oh yeah no one hundred percent. I love her so much. I really really really really really hope she wins. I don't know if it's going to happen but I really am rooting for her. I'm rooting for her. As von I would love to see Liana I however don't feel that she will win and shut up love. You have control over this oil. Yeah take it back. Don't put that out in the IRS. I'll take him so the the the night angel is not just voice but also mogul so candy. Peres's I'm Oh. So is Frankie `Grande. Yeah but he's a social media moat all I mean. He lives in social media. Mogul in two thousand fourteen. I feel like what is he. Maybe that he made me now. He's a mogul. Vogel Noah. What's Frankie `Grande up to that? One show on Amazon right like fashion. Show God. Sorry I'm looking at a picture of him from the Victoria's secret fashion show and it is uncomfortable. Burn with fire burner fire okay. Robin Thicke guesses the friend of candy from the Big Brother House. Hey Mark Braxton winner of celebrity big brother season two so maybe close no cigar Campbell. Was Ken Jones. Guess and I think right now as a podcast. We have the candy burs guests logged for. Now we'll see if anything else comes up we'll see you know what the biggest clue that is candy burs The stage she was singing on is shaped like an x man so they were all in escape. Every single person one. That's that's a fan of the band can be a member of the band right. Yeah well we know that. That's how the way that the clues work so we are all escape fan. We are all escape. Now that's what I want to do for my home escape because because of Helvin but everybody stay inside and wash your hands. Wash your hands. Maintain the distance and don't mess with the bull because you'll get the horns but not the bull's horns the Rhino's horn now. It's time to talk about a rhino well. What IF RHINO KNOW? Who WOULD RYAN? What do Reino? I don't know what's wrong with you. Rhino hardly no. No that is not a thing Ryan. No God I've Hung Up. Used the Rhino said that their journey is forcing them to grow and they became comfortable playing a role for a long time. They're super glue. I've risen of the the billboard chart you may have even you eat now. You may even have an album of mine and said you armories taking gambling type and then a slot machine was decided so now all of this month makes me want to circle back to my co host. Liana the whoopie cushion Boras. And say. Remember last week when you were talking about this being a baseball player that you were convinced. It was a Kansas City. Royals baseball player. How's that looking not so good? Oh yeah the fact that they were like you may have one of my albums risen up the Billboard Chart. I use even trying to make some bizarre connection to still make my theory. Work really really couldn't do it. Like what athlete would have some sort of album unless it was. I've no idea what's another. What's another album? Okay not a music album. But what about a photo album? Because he's on trading cards and he would be in a photo album his album. Yeah and plus risen up the billboard charts what other billboard charts what about Billabong Billboard Charts like the surfing company. Sorta chart sure that's true. I am a human being. Yeah I don't know he's not a singer no he's not an athlete. He's a singer. Bro. I don't know but the good news is the rhinos. GotTa be gone soon because come on. Yeah so aside from the fact that I enjoy seeing you e crow and the Rhino needs to evacuate the building again throws I rose I. There's nothing that's jumping off the page for me with the Rhino I. He doesn't do enough to stand out. He barely does enough to separate himself from the bottom tier. Like it's just okay like I was the opening for the for the For the song what a man to do. What's a man to do by the Jonas Brothers was? It was tiring for me. I didn't care for it. Then the inflatable dancers. Keep coming back. I just don't find a to me it's again. It's not enough Liana. He like we talked about how the frog engages the audience. The turtle engages the audience. The Rhino will do one head nod to the crowd and be like the audience. Work like that is not enough or the dancing. Oh I'm GONNA do is shuffle for like two seconds. Oh that's enough. I danced like it is not enough. I think they really did him. Nice in the production side because he had the golden background and the Confetti and like there was a lot of stuff going on visually that stuff like that could help down the line. I think obviously on the night. She was better than the White Tiger which is not saying a lot but moving forward. I think right now in my head and my heart truly the bottom two without though I tiger are the Rhino and the banana and Yeah No. I completely agree with that again. Like you said the Rhino. There's nothing wrong except for those ugly inflatable Rhino costumes. Again I go back to my room earlier about the inflatable tiger costume or lion costume or whatever the hell it was so ugly. And why are they so ugly? How how is that even possible? You tried to cover them with Confetti. Apparently which is why they use so much confetti because they're so ugly show distracting doors. They're here and I will say. The rhinos performance also got better when he had the musical backing tracks. I think probably says something about his performance. But I don't care because a stupid inflatable rhinos where they don't like them Z. Only inflatable costume. That has stood firm far and away. The best inflatable cost the only good employable costume. Is those dinosaur ones. Where the heads kind of bobby loose that actually was in the T. Rex's performance those. I've seen around there are mean. Those are great every other inflatable costume. That's an like Adema based or most link outer base. There never good. They're never good. They're like they don't inflate and stay. Inflated keep like coming in and out of inflation Not Good at one point there. Was this one sequence. Where like the Rhino was dancing and his two little back. O'brien was came up behind him. And we're dancing with him. And if fell off key because then the rhino turned around and they turn around too. Late was a stop bad. Yeah but it is bad. It's not a fan. I would prefer honestly. If it's just dancers with masks of like a rhino mask that'd be find like the MAC tonight folk. I would prefer that met his name. Yeah but the MAC. Time people are terrifying. Sure there's a cool rhino mask or like a rhino mask with glasses. Song just solving different. Maybe like if everyone last year had the Fox's kids masks that would be creepy. Don't do that but there's reason to believe that if you stop buying these inflatable dummy outfits you can easily use that money for good masks and then you know matching clothes for the dancers for each performer. That's it that's all you really need possible. Sam Smith was talking about the Ryan even though we don't care for him and his chances. Oh so the rider said and there. What do you not? What do we know about you? That is not true. Said I'm not nearly as tall as you think I am. Liana could this be. We talked about it at the beginning of the season to where they had sent. There are going to try and do stuff to change people's heights. Have we finally gotten someone who's either on stilts on platforms on something that's made them taller? This be one of the Rhino. Can't do more than three moves. Yeah that's entirely possible. Although did you see when he did his feet shuffling? Everybody was like it was a great lost their minds. Yeah I would actually be super super stoked if that was the case because I remember being so excited remember how your eyes. What are all the things that they could do and you said Yeah. They could make people taller and shorter and I was like. That's not possible. How do you make someone shorter? And right yeah. You can't remember you learned that you can't use it that I'm saying is on standby it is possible. No okay whatever so anyway. I'd be very excited. If that was actually the case I was trying to then pay attention to what the feet look like to try to figure out. Okay how how do you make lifts possible or something like that still? Don't really get it. I hope hope hope that that's the case. I also hope that that's the case and again. I'm just very excited to get more from the Rhino as far as clues hopefully more or performance or just find out who it is so out soon I I'm not. I wouldn't be surprised if we find that as soon as next week. Yeah Yeah we'll have to see updated so the guesses the judges made was Vince. Gill Duff McCain from guns and roses and Derrick jeeter again you Jenny McCarthy one soul one mind going with the baseball player so yeah it's a criminal. How you how close the two of you are in guesses. I'm deeply deeply embarrassed by this. It's a bird and I left with every day. So let's just move along. Okay Yeah Well. We'll we'll we'll move right out of this world because the last performer on the docket is the astronaut and more like Astra's not no astronaut. Good he was good. Okay then don't just I am. I am but I'm not what I'm astronaut sure. Sure that's probably the best way to respond. Sling worry on ashore. That's that's wow. That's so nice so the clue package of the astronaut actually gave me a lot to think about and allow me to piggyback. He piggy-bank a Lotta piggyback off of your guests from the last go around. Because I'm starting to think that you are on the money. I think you caught the astronaut. I think is Hunter Hayes. And here's why so. The super clue was a record being broken. And obviously that takes and there was the global on it so World Book Guinness World Book of Records. Breaking that that makes sense. Okay now if you look up. Hunter Hayes record break or world record. You will find that. He holds the records for doing most shows in one day. Would you like to guess what number that is? How many shows Stacey nine? I should know before I feel the C. You don't laugh don't Nelson. It was ten which we saw to dis. I'll snake is no two fives on dies. Snake is is now you said that first of all I said to Sixes to one okay. Right that were they did you. Do we really think there were two sixes. No I said Oh okay. So you're incorrect twice. Once you're incorrect in thinking that what I said incorrect was about incorrect. No sure sure okay. Don't go go flip your heart. No I don't bless my heart my heart on blessed thank you to fives equal ten therefore ten cities hundred as went through to break that record so that is what I think that means. Obviously we could be wrong. Because I'm following Liana. Guess Leon has got a couple of guesses in the air. That are not confirmed. Quite yet yeah. I think a lot of guesses that are totally right and I think I have a lot of guesses. It could be completely wrong so we just got to figure out what's what what what the second part of that don't do that song. I know where you're going. Okay so what do you think about the choice to do? Not give you up by Rick Ashley which Oh yeah do we. This is an April fool's day themed episode. We were talking about that. We did and to end it on. This was pretty pretty incredible. Yeah it actually was pretty incredible. I liked it. It was cool. I didn't realize it for the first second or so And I was like. Oh my God. No way we'd be enrolled. Yes and why was the performance seemingly shot through a different colored Lens? Did you get this where I guess it was kind of grayish? It was so weird I was like. Is he in black and white and there was like. Did they repaint his costume? Then I thought my TV was broken for a while. There was like what he's going on and then we snap back into color and then I was like Oh my TV fixed itself and then we went back into black and white. It was very very odd. Unlike the green lighting off the astronaut was always present. So I couldn't tell what was going on I think so. I don't think the mood landed. Footage was black and white right. Yeah okay so maybe a spoof on that or is there like more is it? I don't want to speak any further on the on the off chance likely chance that. I turn out the sound stupid. I don't want another snake. Eyes situation the moon footage landing wasn't black and white. It was it was in color because they filmed on a sound stage. Okay you stop with your conspiracy. This not bad podcast pod. Three no is like sorry okay. I can't classify what we saw as black and white anyways. I don't know what that was. It was like a bad instant filter. Yeah the only thing that was missing was instant on snapchat. I would've loved to find out which celebrity the astronaut is via the filter. That would have been fun. Oh Yeah if only they had done that. And it's not like they recorded this after the filters available but it's fine it's fine. I thought this was a fun performance. I enjoyed rendition of the song and I honestly think that the asteroid is getting better with each performance is this is hunter Hayes. Andrey's like the for the astronaut talked about how they were nervous and shy at the beginning and they were trying to find out truly. Sounds like they've figured it out and he's a singer. He is a world recognized singer so if he's getting better I think the asteroid could go far like very far and to the point where they could upset us and make it further than they should or will. Also the inflatable dancers are awful. I think here's the thing here's what we're GONNA DO. Okay as a podcast. I think we both recognize that. We have complained a little a lot about these dancers. So what we're GONNA do starting next episode. Just not gonNA acknowledge any inflatable. What no I don't agree to this. We should we should. We should have made it. Oh here's okay. Compromise has that's how the world works so we omitted but we each get one. This is the inflatable dancer. I want to roast for this performance. Why why to this? Because we're being nice. We're trying to spread the power positively and feed the positive to the community instead of being very angry about the inflatable dancers. Even though they are very ragent wannabe angry. Fine fine keeping the positive fine. Yeah we'll pay a thirty second like thirty seconds to just go on all of them or something like that. Okay Sure Yeah. And when you want to redeem the thirty seconds you say something like. I know exactly what I want to say now. Aside to like. Turn ON MY COUPON. Yeah exactly you gotTa Throw Your Voucher. Fine. Her Okay. With that being said we get to the? What what is your. You've never done which I should have written down what it was because I'm just saying different things each time. What is it that you've never done a who what are you not? And they said they've never had traditional voice training which again comes off a humble brag. Oh present you just did this amazing thing same with the frog. You just did this now. I didn't even get trained fan. I just woke up one day and I sang. And that's where I got and Robin. Thicke said something along the lines of while I was never have vocal training but I'd vocal strengthening. Isn't that training your voice? Yeah like what counts as training and then also same deal with the frog though like what? If you're a TOT CORIO BY SOMEONE. Is that not training? Yeah I don't know because it's like so it's like if you watch a video of like let's say a hip hop choreography of YouTube. Is that not counted as the same as going to a dancer? Who's going to train you in different? Sean different I think if you like Goto somebody who's going to teach you. That's different because news for Ya. If watching a hip hop corio video online is the equivalent to being a trained dancer then I am maturing and I trained dancer. Can you do that? What kind of dance is I? Don't know it's just the one video that I like because the guy at the end is like remember. Think you're amazing. He tells me that I'm amazing. And I liked that the you watch the same video. I don't really know I'm still really bad at the same dance. But Yes oh so okay. Yeah I only have one or two. I tried watching. I mean I have other ones that I've done before but I don't like them the one that I do all the time is the one where the guy tells me which now that I'm saying out loud incredibly pathetic validates me okay. Hey No this is a no judgment zone. You're getting getting out and you're getting dancing and one day you will perfect that and then you will make video teaching other people to dance and be positive. That's right yes now. Where were we with this? Yeah so vocal training. So they've never had tradition. They specified traditional so maybe they did learn off youtube. Who knows right so they're And then guesses were David Archer Leta g Shah's Aa Ryan. Tetter I don't I think it's none of 'em I'm so we should be good there any last words for the astronaut before we get to the ending of this. I think astronaut still market on the second attempt astro. No no you better don't so everyone's done performance. We get to the Group C determinations. What happened rhinos? Bottom three shocked very shock. Not really so then. We get to the bottom of the now. It's all the bottoms. So you got your white tiger the Rhino and the banana sending together and they decided this is a great moment to another April. Fool thing I felt so bad for the banana. This was awful. They faked them out as if the bananas in the bottom and then said no. You're not in the bottom. Something like this is exactly why they winnie to retire. April fools nonsense but not make it April third. No I was messing with you. That's different than doing an April. Okay got it. So it's okay to mess with me. Just not with Bret michaels and a banana costume. I get where I fall on the higher with me you sir. Where exactly which is a true statement? I don't understand why you're saying that I mess with you. A Happy April thirty two. Okay so the white tiger is in the body. The white tiger is getting plugged off and this is a glorious moment. We get to the final guesses. Two of them said GRONK. It was genuine robin. Of course it was Kenwood. Jj Watt and then negotiators who switched guest. Seventeen Times John Cena. I don't know why I think that. None of the clues onset of the Boston. They know the clues lead to John's book. What ever Yuji. Unicol take it off. Take it off. Its shock her. I couldn't belie could not be leave. A I am so happy that this nightmares. It took ten episodes to get the outcome. I wanted after one day. He wasn't in six of those episodes. But yes I understand he wasn't but the feeling cocooned through editing the padres. I kept finding myself at least once every episode saying why tire should be there or this was not as tight. Yeah so definitely living. My head read free. And I'm glad that I could affect the white tiger from my bed while I'm happy for you. Thank you so of course. We end the show as every week with the unmask performer. Doing the Salt Lake House. How does the song go again? How did ROB Gronkowski? No I'M NOT EVEN GONNA. I didn't even listen to this. I just turned it off. He's too sexy for his party. And now we are a little dance. He was so proud of so good grog so good speaker talking about stuff. I did check out his unmask interview on the sorry. I will like to throw. Psa to anyone that uses the APP on if you go and watch these beware that there is a small chance that Youtube is going to recommend it to you when a new video comes even if you have notifications off. I don't even subscribe to the massacre page. I just watched a video. I was recommended the master White Tiger Unmasked Interview. And I'm like okay. Thank you. This was Thursday morning so going into the super nine episode. I knew who was going and I was not happy but I was happy also annoyed. I wanted to get their organic so disappears that anyone. That's using the APP. The Youtube APP. Beware because could find okay good. Ps I've gone your gone ahead and turn off northern everything for Youtube out just to make sure that they're not get now. So then the interview Rob Gronkowski said. Experience has changed me in many ways and he was very excited he was just as all demeanor was very positive he said. I was taught by professionals. Real dance moves really enjoyed that. I really wanted that. I felt no shame because no one knows who is underneath the mask and when asked he said my highlight reel was my first performance of ice. It just felt like I was flowing. I got all the words. I got all the moves. I was in my own head. So wait is a trained dancer. If he learned from professional excited to take them into other avenues of his life and since he's retired from football I can only imagine that we're good to see rob Gronkowski on the next season of dancing. Now that's fine ano- watch that show so sorry at Mo and other people watch that show now okay so then. He mentioned he talked about some clues to the horse. Pin Yada was because he's part owner of a horse that's also called Gronkowski. So and he did split the Horace Pignon half semester and that route sixty six was. I'm six six fine. And the last thing he says is I hope the massing against this is an actual quote by the way. I hope the massacre gets picked up and clubs and bars and I can perform as the white tiger again. You think he legit once that that would be okay. There's very few things I would pay for. I would consider spending five dollars to go see rob Gronkowski performance the white tiger. It's cute that you think would cause five don. I had to set a bar somewhere so if if it costs eight dollars eight dollars. I'd go for eight dollars but like fifteen certain push it but I would like sit twenty. That's rough because you and I I would have to like forty dollars. Yeah Twenty Okay. So twenty if there's other stuff going on you know if it's if it's twenty and you get a free APP and unlimited skibo. Sure that sounds reasonable. And it's twenty just to see gronk performance. The White Tiger No. Yeah but think about the novelty of at all. Okay twenty-five no but anything under that we could answer. Do you think we started. Go Fund me. That's a refunded in this trying. Time I mean I know that taking Right now is the time to take footage of yourself with Tigers of any similar. So maybe there's not enough value in the twenty dollars at this point. Maybe if this was three months ago this would be no I mean we were also till areas to hear him talking about going to do performances now like I know that was filmed forever ago right like still. I just love that. He says I hope Massachusetts picked up in clubs thing like clubs and bars are green. Lighting shows like okay. Now we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA run syndication or friends. Oh drag race like I can. I can go to the gay bars here and watch drag race like the Yorkshire. Buffet has drag race and they have dry like shows that are around it. So maybe that's what it would be like. Nobody he said he wants to perform the way. Yeah exactly to bars and be the why he would go to the clubs and the bars as the white tiger and then people would watch the episode and then during the commercials he would do performances. You think that's what he means. Look I interpreted with my very limited world. Knowledge apparently must lay shaped by drag race. So yes okay well who knows what. Gronk is going to say and believe it or not. This is not the last time we're going to see the rock this week because he is hosting. Wwe's two-night event of Wrestlemainia this year Fine I know you've been hankering to watch it. No I can't wait. It's going to be Friday Saturday and Sunday now Friday. So enjoy that now. Are you ready to answer a couple of questions before we put the cap on the super nine and move on to next week's setup? Let's do it all right first. Question The aforementioned fan of dancing with the stars we've got Admiral and Admiral asks. Was this episode too big for one night and let me preface this by wrestlemanias slogan has something to do with this because they split Wrestlemainia to two nights because they said it was too big for one night so even though I think he's making a joke. It is a question worth asking now filler. It could've been. They should have done one night and one hour down. I don't think they could have it down to nine performances. Nine clue packages one hour. That's a lot that's trail. Yeah I think the Filler was like felt like a lot of filler borough. Also like the ramones were moved slowly because it was okay. I know what's coming. Let's just move on. I think I should have just split it into two and made it. They have it be like the Super Ten and we had to five performance. No Feller Yeah but here's me so if I'm trying to help the producers out on like they're trying to stretch the season right now okay. All right always a different question. That's a different question right. Because if you're trying to help producers I have a bunch of ideas to stretch it out but if I'm the viewer I don't want to watch a recap of the clue. Baggage is also because okay wait. Let me take okay because I am very unique person. Legit have notes written about these clue packages like maybe this was great for the casual viewer. Okay so I feel bad for being mean Yeah I. I don't think the the casual viewers happy about this. Maybe there are facebook page. I duNno I mean the. What does it our facebook page? Okay what doesn't have a facebook? Page a Lotta game. We're playing who we need to finish these shifts so okay dancer and most question. Yes I thought. The episode was too big for one night. They should split it. That's fine we can move on okay. We can move on Tim Westinghouse so next week the groups are being split back into to force. Do WE THINK BANANA RHINO. Go before we get back to sex or is there a chance we lose like kangaroo. Now you've meant you've seen since we talked about some of the show. You found the lineups for these two episodes right. Ooh Yeah Did I feel don't know them yet? I had to restart my computer. Okay we wait. Let me try to remember from memory. Okay it was Kitty. Kangaroo Turtle and someone else. That's not rhino or banana. Because I was mad. That Rhino is frog or something it was. I was Super Mad. That banana and are in the same frigging group. Because as far as I'm concerned they're at the bottom to if I had to make it to your list at this very moment my bottom tier banana rhino. I think they should be the next two. That are gone then for me personally. It's kangaroo an astronaut and then I have my top four being night Angel Kitty Frog Turtle. So how on earth are you going to take the bottom two and put them in the same group which means I have to wait like three more weeks or four more weeks for the people that I consider to be the bottom two gone? I swear to God if we lose one of nine Angel Kitty. Frogger turtle before banana or Rhino. Go I will be mad at home safely and wash my hands. I don't know man a lot. It's a lot. Yeah yeah so I am not happy with that is that is truly the breakdown. Because I still can't find it but if we go off of that is frustrating because yes the reality is. We're going to have to have a slow wait a end to our fades. Go out because of this breakdown. Not Loving that. So if that is the case I think banana should go the likelihood especially this being the season at the white tiger. That's not going to happen. We if we lose kangaroo. I'm not mad at you know. I'm not matted at all my yeah if we lose someone to collateral that I think is a front runner. That would be setting. Yeah no I would agree with that. I would agree. I'm okay with kangaroo or even astronaut going at this point but that's what I'm saying if we lose one of the people that I consider to be in the top four that I'm GonNa be mad also as a side note. We are super out of touch with the fans. Gronk should have stayed. He's the most fun up there. Please Follow Sports. But this guy has a fabulous personality. He was so much fun. That is sixty two lights. I have to say the casuals continuing doing what they do. Best but like that's fun. At least someone will get some fun out of it right like if we're not happy at least other people are happy happy. I'm sad he won't be on next week. I'm happy that they're that. So you derive joy from the misery of others. Got It derive joy from my misery for ten episodes. Oh my God. So the there's a there's a show here that says I can see your voice at see Your Voice Fox. I can see your voice. Ken John Coming soon to Fox owned nine. Is this your voice? What is going on I can I can see. Your Voice is what it's called. I found it through facebook. I can see your voice. Oh South Korean TV series original version. I can see your voice mystery music game show. We're using no no yes. He's a Popstar. Trying guest. The skill vocalists from the tone-deaf singers. I'll so it's sort of similar. There's costumes there's Oka- but I mean let's see trying guest the skill of untold us without hearing them without hearing them sing with. Alpa TONE-DEAF DETECTIVE TEAM. They must eliminate one or two singers trump before performing on the stage of truth with a star in the final singer can hold a tune they will receive a special reward bottle mystery tone-deaf they will receive a cash prize. How do you guess who they are? Okay so you just you have to rely on your team on your team. You gotta like maybe some how they look or whatever. The voice taught us that. That's not real so this is this could be fun. I don't see this being like a full season. Maybe it's equity maybe not coming soon to Fox. Although this page was created page created February six twenty twenty. So my assumption. This is probably not gonNA happen for a long time if ever Ezzor we. I'm done I mean we did go off course but mark Levin please okay. So we'll do one last sociology solid. Ask Congress when the Superman film how many groups there episodes air we know that Group A was at least prudish shown before they recorded the super nine so I think at most group he was also in the middle or had started showing when they record it I don't think Group C was so that's where I'm going with that as a guess Yeah Okay Yeah I agree at that and then the last one all these two months after seeing all together is it time for the winter draft and I think it is so last season we did each of us. Got Three picks. I think we do the same thing here. Each of us get three picks. We're going to snake order and made the best person victorious. Okay yeah all right so since I won last time. Hey I would like you to go I night Angel Baby Okay. I saw that coming. I saw that coming down lugging it. Dan or I want to go with the give me the frog. Of course. Of course the frog is going to be there. And I'm stuck between two but I got to go with Turtle WanNa go with the turtle bow. Okay I'm GonNa go with Kitty then that's who I wanted but I didn't do it because I honestly feel that she's GonNa get robbed. The why would you pick the kids better? I don't see I think that I think the Voto kitties way I think. The kitty offers great vocal talent as the Night Angel. But do they give other stuff? Do they add to the other and I think the turtle as talked about doing more corio in their stuff. The Frog is definitely doing more corio in their stuff and if the white of there's one lesson to be learned from the white tiger is that the the audience in houses enjoying what you're putting out there they will keep you so all it takes is one valid for the at the wrong time and then to over okay do I pick now again. Two picks kitty and astronaut see. That's a value pick right there. Healing Maria Feeling. Good about it leaves me with the bottom people which includes the banana the Rhino and the kangaroo. Right right. No there's got to be others eight year right. I mean I'm picking the Kangaroo. The kangaroo is not a good pay whatever You know what I think I played myself. I should've gone I I didn't. I didn't think that through. Yeah but here we are. You WanNA redraft on. I'm just kind of like kicking myself. It's forty nine last time. I took the liberty laughed in my face and the leopard forth. So who knows? Maybe the kangaroo wins the whole thing anyway. Fine I'll laugh behind your face or well I appreciate that and You can all off behind my face to thank you for tuning in. Liana Wayne Levi. He didn't finish the job. No we were doing only three. Oh Yeah so you pick kangaroo Bret Michaels Pick Brit. Might I picked Brad Mike. Vh1 Reality TV star. Brett like dropping someone to pick bret michaels then bret. Michaels Rhino belong to the audience. Now I'm so sorry let's nights okay. Well this has been fun podcast. It was a long one but I think we did everything the appropriate amount of time. Now Liana where can people find you? And what are you up to lately? Okay you can find me on twitter at Liana our age a he. I M podcasting with Mike Bloom on our talking with Kirsten McGinnis this week about a jam packed merge episode of survivor which should be really fun. And then I'm also talking with Rog Mon Mon Edwin to talk about ripples at Joe Rigorous so those are going to be recording this weekend and should hopefully be out soon. You are talking to four people that you're playing with tonight in this game. I hope no one's a first of all. Let's be realistic okay. We are recording this on the third of April as we mentioned several times. They're not gonNA edit this until tomorrow right okay so this is going to be recording before the sequester game that we are playing tonight. Do you WanNa make any predictions or do you want to just not do time. Capsule situation. But I'm terrified why I mean. Worst case scenario edited out. That's a good point. Okay all right so I predict that we know. What do I predict? I predict? I don't know I don't know I don't know I'm nervous because this part I hate it. I'm GonNa make sure that either this gets stays in Oregon removed completely. I think I'M GONNA win. Okay then I think I'm going to win because positive a positive. You're losing the battle of the words. Leon win with that. Attitude Power of positivity. I Say I'm GonNa win two and then now we both win. Pop our positively. You know what else is? Pop Pop Prince of Persia. You know. Who's the Prince of Persia me? The winner of this game is legit massingir clues right there. Pops POPs further job Fritz Persia. That's me pop pop but leaving the Fox on Papa. Pop Pop pop power. That's fucked say this is almost guaranteed not to be on but if it is and you've been listening to this Kudos now. I think it'll be fun. I'm excited for tonight so to segue into my stuff. You can find me at puja. Ism either congratulate us or send US commiserations. If we do bad in this game tonight I have. Let's see what have I done? So yes I did a podcast about Wrestlemainia with Robin Akiva that you can find on Robinson website dot com. We kinda broke down the match ups for this this year. Then we talked about the state of sports in nineteen world and what it means and how it's been going and all of that stuff. I was also on twitch or twists with Jordan Kayla's in Rochester Nina. Last week of Vietnam heard that. 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Survivor 40 Episode 11 Feedback with Aras Baskauskas

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Survivor 40 Episode 11 Feedback with Aras Baskauskas

"Germany live from my apartment hands. Rob Has a podcast. Now here's the guy who's newly inspired to work on a fashion line of plaid shirts for all occasions. I am rob sister Nina Liberty. Welcome back to rob has a podcast. And we're talking on our feedback show. Today we've got a great guest to join US last week. We heard from earlier. This week are as Bush. Gaskets will join us on the feedback. Show to answer some of your questions. Talk about what he's been up to talk about the winners at war and much more with one of the Great. Rha P gassed from way back when our scouts? Here on the PODCAST Yesterday I got the chance to catch up with Rick. Devon's had a ton of fun talking with Rick Devon's we got into everything. Talk a lot of Tony and about what he's doing this week after pulling off that big move at tribal council check out the know. It alls as well and then still to come. We are going to have Antonio Missouri with us on this week in survivor. Plus not to mention the wiggle room as well. Where Josh Wigley? And I gotta get to everything from this week's episode and get into the wand off as well so being looking for that. Also look for too hot to handle finale coverage. I'm going to be with Kirsten McGinnis who's been following the show all week long and our panel tonight looking forward to that with high Haley strong and pujols Inva- Kelly and then of course. Don't forget about Rodney podcast. This weekend family feud is coming your way so stop coming up on. Rob Has a website dot com bribes. Website accomplish itunes for the subscription fee not to mention the BNB and Y. Sophie lost this weekend but before we get to Rs let me take a moment and thank our sponsor those our friends over at noon and look Trying to stay in shape or have different weight loss goals that God can be especially challenging right now so many of us are able to really work on physical fitness right. Now Gyms aren't open to us. 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So there's a science to getting healthier. It's called NEUM. Sign up for a trial today at noon. That's neum no OM DOT com slash. Rob What do you have to lose? Visit NEUM DOT com slash rob to start your child today that's Neum. No Dot com slash. Rob All right. I'm very excited to talk to our guest today. We are very lucky to have here with us. One of the winners who is not at war. One of the winners. Who's very much at peace and here to talk with us. A great friend of the PODCAST. Somebody who I have been podcasting with for many many years dating back to his first appearance back in two thousand twelve. Here is the great winner of survivor. Panama the great our push Cassius ours. How are you doing well rob? Thanks for having me. It's it's good to be back. It's so nice to hear your voice so let's talk to you off from what I understand. You're podcasting from your roof today. Yeah Yeah had to get some privacy. My five and a half year old would not let me have any privacy and then dogs pooped in the meditation room. So we're left with one choice and that was the rough. That's been the challenge to podcast with people over these last couple of weeks is that everybody's kids are around kids. The kids add a new element. I mean it's really great. I'm so grateful to be with the family and spend time with them. Getting work done has definitely a challenge aging. Yeah okay How's everybody doing on your own? Yeah everyone's good. Everyone's doing quite well My father actually got really sick. Not with Cova But he got really sick and and we didn't know what was going on. We moved them into my house and the day that we moved to man he collapsed and lost consciousness. Oh my God. And then he had to be nine one one We called nine one one they asked me to CPR. We got the ambulance and he had to go to the hospital. We couldn't visit him and that was like four days of him being there but he's recovering and we know what's going on and and there's a road to recovery grateful for so that's all good but You know I think everyone's dealing with this time of pause In their own ways. And we're all being asked to compost old ways of being and and let go of things that don't work and kind of grow from this so we're definitely where embracing that as a family albeit not without its challenges. Yeah did you. Save Your Dad's life by doing CPR No I went down to do the CPR any Kiki regained consciousness again. I was really like not confident in my CPR skills but it was pretty intense. The the the the nine one one Call Operator was walking me through it and it was like the kids were asleep. He wanted me yell. My Dad's name and also okay Kids are asleep. He's like do you want your dad delivers a yeah. I do I do so. I yelled his name and it was. It was really intense. Wow that's a wild hope. You Dad is doing Okay now as he's recovering is recovering in grateful for that so it could have been a lot worse. That's for sure are well. I'm really glad that you had some time to talk to us here. During this season it's been a minute since you and I talked. We used to get together all the time. And I know you're so busy with everything going on over at Christiaan But it's been so almost it'll be three years from. I think. Monday was the last April. Twenty eight twenty seven hundred. Almost three years exactly amazing. It's so good to be back. I chose not to go on winters at war just so I could be invited. Back to the PODCAST. Yes you my starwood rise during the season as a potential Guest on the podcast so I figured it was wise not to go on the season. Yes well I think that's something that people would love to hear you talk about Going back to survivor. Was that an option. You said you chose not to go back. Well Listen I. I think it's a little more complicated than that. I did choose. Not they called me does not mean that I would have cast me. I think they probably cast a wide net. I don't know how wide that that but I know that included me and my response immediately was no It's just not gonNa work with the kids and the business doing so. Well I mean they couldn't have paid me enough to go out there and also you know I had my time. I had my time in the sun and and I am so grateful first survivor and I'm so grateful to be watching it from my couch. This season two yeah was part of it the title winners at war that I remember from I. I remember this that I right after you won. I remember seeing photos of you with a stop. Wars t-shirt shirt of Star Wars Font. Yeah Yeah Yeah now the title having to do with it I think reme- rob is that I think you you would say the same thing. Is that people. Don't really understand. Just how intense it is out there. And how depleting it is not only to your body but also to your mind into your soul and and it's a long road recovery and I for me. I have so many wonderful things happening in my life here. That the the cost benefit analysis for me. Just didn't certainly it would be. You know a Lark to go and do that because I I don't know if maybe everybody knows just how much the Christie Don Empire has grown. Can you just give us a quick update on how well Christiaan has done over the years from when we first started talking to you back in twenty twelve you were you know getting Tundra hats off the ground but since then since those days yes your payroll time I think we all can say tender gear was ahead of its time and You know I had your time. You don't always succeed Christian onto done really well It has brought us a lot of abundance and yeah. We're really grateful for it. It has if we were able to perch house and more super grateful for that And we've done a lot of really good work with the company in terms of like how were addressing fashion as an industry and as it relates to the earth and its impact. So we're doing really cool things That I I'm super passionate about. I never thought that my life work related to fashion. You like that to be honest with you. Can you talk a little bit about what you guys have? Been doing with making masks for people. Yeah Yeah Yeah so we have our own factory here in La we have twenty five dress makers and When this thing hit we pivoted we all right. We're going to just make masks and so We we sell a five pack for thirty dollars and we give away five as well to people on the Front Lines. And so yeah. We've just figuring out how how we how we can be helpful and how we can keep you know. The biggest thing for me was really just about keeping our employees employed. Yeah we are team employed and then be helpful and so it was like running to sell these masks. We she probably helped along frontlines as well so that was the choice. We made. Okay well. Let's talk a little bit about survivor. Forty because we want to get your take on everything. That's going on a great week to have you here that we picked a great episode to talk about before. Get into this week. I would love to hear your thoughts on the season overall through eleven weeks of this show. Yeah I think it's been really fun to watch I. I don't know if it's because I'm an old school player or because I think there was probably some free gaming or some thought but it was really a bummer to see them eliminate all the old school players. It just it it. Maybe it's because I know those people better too but those are the people that I wanted to see playing but I I think it's been a great season I think each each person who's won. This game has a unique set of skills Unique personality traits that make them very likeable and That's been really interesting to watch. Because when they when they put this thing together they tried to carve out a villain or they try to carve out a goat and and it's easy as a viewer to get sucked into that but really like each each player really has their own unique gifts and it's been fun to watch that. Yeah so Michael Kimball wants to know from you. that. Who would you be interested in playing with if you were on the winners of war? Who are the people that jump out to you that if you were there that you think you would have had an easy time working with well? I think for sure. I'd probably have a real easy time working with Tyson because every before Kim I. She's so intuitive. It's pretty amazing. I liked nieces. Well I think her game is great poverty because we have a relationship outside of the game. Were friends You know poverty from before she even plate right. Yeah Yeah Yeah Poverty I I Bequeathed the information that Bobby John Bequeathed to me before she left. Yes when be mindful of who sleeping next to who because you typically sleep next to your alliances. Yes so permanent Ethan Yeah those people are the people that I probably would finish in playing with Just just from friendships and denise is really the only one that I don't have a personal relationship with always met once or twice but I I. I like the way she plays the game. I also really. I really like Jeremy. I find him to be very like one. I probably would have found myself wanting to work with them as well so I would love to get your take on The big move that Tony pulled off this week where he ended up pulling out this Move which was four three to vote against Sophie to knock her out of the game and then ultimately Come up with this new group that he walked away from it and I think that the natural comparison that a lot of survivor fans came away from like wow. This is not unlike the Panama. Three to one that you and Sirri and I believe it was Danielle as the third part of the three to one ended up executing did you see parallels between that move and what happened here with Tony Man honestly. I didn't see them when you say it. I you could draw parallel if you really wanted to draw something but there. That was Tony's move is such. I mean we if it was really hard for me to understand why he made that. Move to be perfectly honest with you. Okay because you break it down so tomorrow or next. Wednesday's vote right now. We're four four presumably. The everyone that Tony burned is gonNA turn against him so now. You're either going to rocks. He does have a hidden immediately. Can Play I don't know why if he was gonNA make that move. Why he didn't let Kim and denise now I it would make more sense to keep more allies than to expose yourself as playing really hard. That being said incredible episode for Tony. I mean I love watching Tony. It's really fun to watch I. He's probably much smarter than I am. So he probably sees things You know ten steps ahead. I I don't really understand the move. It feels too aggressive okay. It feels like he's really exposing himself in a game where it appears that everyone is trying to stay with the pack as best. They cannot expose themselves right good. Well let's talk this through. Because I I like that. You're coming in with the contrarian viewpoint because I feel like that I've only really heard positive things I would love to explore this with you so in a way you're sitting and so the three to one actually makes more sense That even though it's not an apples to apples here. Because after three to one after courtney goes home then okay now. There's an odd number of people in the three is the majority here whereas in this four three two now we have eight. And so you're going to have where now denise and Cam and Sarah and Ben are going to be a four. That could be ready to work against that group and maybe that four that. Tony put together isn't especially when it comes together last minute isn't saying hey. I'm going to go rocks for Tony. Tonight and even if Tony places idle than the this could be the beginning of the end for Tony Yeah. It just doesn't seem like what's this. Tell me this like what's the risk in letting Kim Denise in on it like what what's the downside so for me. I think that this started to Come together was that. I think that we know you know how gifted of a player Kim is and I think that she was starting to ingratiate herself more and more with Sarah. There's a great secret seen wear Kim and Sarah were talking and I. I'd actually love to ask you about this where they were discussing. How Sarah? After her season really didn't like how she felt like oh on the bad guy or that she really didn't like feeling like the people made her feel like she was a bad person because she won the game and Kim said that she went through a similar experience. Where she yes she wanted. Us proud game. She played but that really people made her feel like that she was a you know a a bad person because she did what it took to win the game and I would love to know as a winner. Is that something that you ever struggled with? One hundred percent one hundred percent. Yeah I I remember talking to Kim. After she won and helping to call her nerves around that like I think every winter goes through it. There's a guilt you feel right In the game is innately nefarious. And you try your best to play it straight and Try Your best to play in a way that works with your own personal belief system. Some people don't try to play straight at all right at the end of the day play. Musical chairs is only enough for one and even when play musical chairs you can hearken back to like playing when your child there is certainly a part of you that wants to celebrate it but then as part of you like well damn why am. I the only one that gets to have it right. Uh-huh I think that's a pretty natural normal way to feel after winning survivor. Yeah but I think it's an interesting sort of and no pun intended but like survivor's guilt because as somebody who went far into the game and then ultimately didn't win I I don't remember walking away feeling like Oh I feel kind of terrible about what I did I. I might be a unique case but I don't in talking with other people that have gotten far and not one. I don't feel like I've spoken with a lot of people that feel like they really regretted doing the things it took to get them to a place where I felt like they regret that they didn't win. But I feel like that that seems like a maybe a unique thing to people who have actually played a hard game and then one. Yeah I mean the hardest thing is is like the people that you worked with right people that you really did have relationships with who didn't even burn. But they didn't win like that's Kinda hard right like a house with with. For example. Like with Sirri. Right like Serena I worked together. She didn't win. Why do I? I didn't play like some innately better game than three chips just fell in my favor. And that's an IT's I think it kind of relates back to just exactly what you said right. This like survivor's guilt Which all of us have a different levels around different things but with survivor particularly really highlights it because there is one have celebrated winner anchalee rewarded winner and everybody. Lci you get something but You know you're kind of also also ran Versus like that. That Person One survivor. And it's not a silly deserved right. Like me Terry. Danielle Shane Sirri like we. All basically played the same amount of that game But I walk into a room and I won survivor like somehow. I did something so special and we all know people who have won the game. We know it's a lot of luck and we know that To get that far in the game like everyone did quite well to do that. And so just to go back to where started with this that It seems to me like Sarah in Kim seems like that there is a bond there. Even this hour was talking about voting out. Kim Potentially as an idea last week as a secret seen earlier in the season where they seem like they had a real bond about their families and at the point. Where Kim and Denise are jumping on board with Sarah and Sophie and Ben About okay. Now they're also part of our numbers. I think that for Tony. I think that the clown car was getting too full at that point and I think he felt like that. I am not the biggest stakeholder here. It's between Sarah and Sophie. Really calling the shots and now they have other people that that could be used as well. You know votes against me down the road with people that I'm not as close with and why are we getting rid of Jeremy? Who is somebody that I've actually built up a good bond with where even though we were gonNA vote or not? The last time I've actually been able to spin him completely around to think that I'm actually his closest ally not I mean I. I see that argument for sure. I just think it's GonNa be a tough road ahead going that way. Now you're looking at four four and you've you've exposed yourself in to me. That's the most dangerous thing you could do right. But I do see. I see that Sarah Sophie seemed to have a great bond And to be fair. I like watching this. Like a purist. I'm just watching on Wednesdays So that's the only information I'm getting. I'm not getting the secret scenes in that would probably change my perspective of it. Maybe there's been some weeks where we've watched everything and we are pretty clueless about what's going on to and that's the other part is. I recognize that. We're all still clueless. It gets a show and there's probably much on a lot of subtlety. We don't I I gotta say like. I am really impressed with Sarah's game I am I am. I think it's really easy to put Sarah to Pigeonhole Sarah but she has a lot of likeable qualities. That maybe don't come through as much onscreen but you can tell people really like being around Sarah and and and she's smart and she's strong and she's got really good boundaries And I wouldn't be surprised if if Sarah to this whole thing down okay. Well Sarah I think is really the person to watch this week because for me I really want to see. How does she respond to this betrayal from Tony where she is somebody who Tony turned on her in the first game that they played after they had had a bond and then the after all these years they end up rekindling that relationship to the point where they're feeling good they're working with each other cops are us and now we're at this point where this is a real crossroads where? I'm sure Tony is going to double back and say to Sarah. Look I had to do what I had to do. And look we're still good. Cops are us. You're my partner. And what is Sarah going to do? And how does she respond to this? How do you think she ends up handling this? It's so hard to predict how she handles it. I I think I. I'm not sure like how reactive she'll be initially but I I would venture to guess that her response will be that she ends up looking to cut tony whether it be this. Vote ahead. I think she's GonNa recognize. Tony is not only someone you can't trust in Italy but also someone who's now built built a resume rig moves and You know I also thought I also just want to comment. Sorry I know this was in your question. But I- Sophie said in that thing that she was a bottom Tier Win. I don't know at all First of all like I think tearing winners is really not understand the game at all because each game is so unique and And and and how a jury decides to reward is is it if they reward you you. You did a great job but I think he's a great player so I was really impressed. Sophie's going but that being said yeah. Yeah I I think that Sarah will eventually realized she needs to cut Tony. Not only because he's not trustworthy but because he's now building himself quite a resume for everyone to see it's one thing to build a resume and reveal that resume at the finish line of people like. Oh that was you. Oh that was you but at this point. Tony is really put himself out in front. And he's made himself a big target which listen. He won the first season by doing that. I just don't think it's GonNa work amongst these winners. Okay so I WANNA go back to what you're saying with Sophie. Because I wanted to ask you about that because you are somebody who has been at times self deprecating about your win in survivor Panama. And we've seen Selfie talk about this and Michelle and a couple of other people over the course of the season and talk about yes. I'm a winner. But the way that my win is viewed as oh like people. Don't view my win as the same as this person's win and this is something that I carry with myself. That is this a real phenomenon for the winners of survivor phenomenon. Self-deprecation you know in terms of like boy. You Know I. Yeah I one but my win. You know people don't consider my wind to be as good as this other person's win for sure that's for sure. I mean there's definitely in the eyes of the viewer right like there's all this emotional connection to watching it and and when the person you WANNA win wins. It's a different experience and when there's more twists and turns different experience of and certainly I would say like The way that survivor and CBS's chose to market certain players Kind of a in terms of like how the outside world use it Different guys win in in that value system I am certainly bottom. Tier winner That being said I think that that's a really myopic. Way of looking at the game And I think that each game is so unique We tend to WANNA reward the people that make the big moves but someone like in the case of Michelle You know it takes a skill to to win the game. That were the way she won the game And she would never win at the Boston. Rob Won the game but I just want to point out also like the kind of the things that we tend to really value in game. Play has never really worked twice. You know. Let's be honest. Sandra was not considered one of the great winners after her first win And it's only because she won again that people valued it And so I think. That's something for us to marinate on it like being inquiry on is like Boston rob is really unlikely to win. Twice right played. How many times is fifth time playing time playing so that I'll is like it's a really hard way to win the game now? It's really fun to watch but if you choose a style. That's really hard to win. Does that make you the Great? Like a great winner not to say Boston. I think he does have a lot of skills. I will say this Tyson I at our. How do you have a friendship? And he's come over and and vice versa. And we played this game with Brad culpepper. I forget the name of the game. Something about Hitler was in the name of it Secret SECRET HITLER REVERSE AGE and playing that game it was it was like a little bit like playing mafia and I realized during that game like Tyson for example he really does have incredible. Skill set that relates to survivor. More so than I do Really really loves deception. He really loves those things And he does great at it. So you know I I do think like Tyson for me is like someone who's very talented the game but it's hard to say like who's the best one every game so different different different points in each in each game. Yeah and I'm not even asking for you know your rankings of I was interested in you. Know the psychology of Sophie talked about how you know. I felt like not other people felt like I felt like that my win was considered to be a lower your win and I wanted to come back and prove that I could hang with the big dogs. Yeah Yeah I. I don't feel that way personally. I don't know I see myself you felt at Sylvia's a great player And like you know. I obviously had to imagine that they were going to have a winner season and so every time somebody wins you like you think about their game and what it would be like them and I always in my mind thought. Selfish very smart. She'll be a very Should be one to watch like I I you know. I think she's a very good survivor player. Yeah was this idea. Something that you brought with you when you ended up Going back of that. Like Hey I've got a really show people. This time around like my win is not any kind of a fluke. You'll see when I come back there and does that affect the way that a winner prepares for a second season. No but I will say this. Tyson brought up a really good point the second season that I played and He was like look you only one so there was no. There was no mistake that you could look back on same. Damn I would do that differently. There was no pain in your heart. No regret for you to like harp on say. Don't do that and so it was really easy to get more comparable than I should have been really really to to be less aware of kind of the happenings. It camp and for Tyson. Who had been voted out twice before that or that was his third time playing. I believe right third time playing a he had been voted out two times before that we had stings like he was he was vigilant. Tyson didn't sleep. You wouldn't leave camp like these are things I would never even contemplate. It ever played again. I still wouldn't do that but at that being said there were just places maybe blind spots that did not get exposed in my first game. That got exposed second also. I wasn't a fantasy wherever the first time I played by the time I played the game the second time I was a fan so I kind of wanted to play more in my actual like the the reason I feel like successive my first time is because I did not play that much. I come to me and they didn't really show it my second season but like I was in a million alliances and I was playing much harder And so Yeah that came back to bite me in the ASS. Let me ask you a question about what you're talking about From what Tyson has said before i? This is a question from Trevor Shaun. Hey Robin Iris. Or artists or whatever. It's Trevor Shaun from Vancouver. So with eight people left in the game. Three people have been voted out before in the previous games. We'll five have never been voted out before survivor. So someone who's played the game before was one the game and then came back and then got voted out. Do you think this gives an advantage to Sarah? Tony and Jeremy. They've been voted off before and they know what to expect When the signs go the wrong way or is the fearlessness of never losing the game of for never being given edge. Too Bad Kim Denise Nick and Michelle love to hear your thoughts X. Okay so in terms of what you're talking about that should we be looking at the players who have lost the game before Tony Sarah and Jeremy as the players to really watch for here throughout the rest of the season as being people with a leg up on those who are one time players who have never lost the game. Yeah I mean I would definitely say that they have a little bit more seasoning little bit more salt of the Earth with them. That being said Kim Has Been My pick the whole season. Yup early on Kim really she was. You know a baby's breath away from getting voted out And so she kinda got that experience early on she got humbled really quickly by this season so I think she I would also put her in that category just because she was so close being limited me. She was walking around the Allen and no one talked to her without my next question for you. Can you get that experience Having not lost the game where could you be blindsided and have an ally go home or have an idol played in a way the urine expect to learn that lesson without having lost? Yeah I think you absolutely. Can I think you absolutely can? And I think it's important that it happens for those for those winners who have never been voted out and who have never really come close to getting voted out. It's important that it happens early in the season I think too. Yeah because I know that I personally just from my experience just to add to that where I I played one season where everything went my way. You know nothing. That happened surprised me and I went all the way you know as far as I can go until I didn't win the last challenge and then I really was thrown for a loop. When the second time I've played that I had no idea what was going on and I know that it's it's really humbling. Right like Whoa it. It's Yeah I think it just goes to show. I think it's really easy. My guess would be there certain winners out there who have never been voted off. Who have basked in the glory of winning because there is some glory in winning right like you you do get our and Simpson glory in it. And so then like you know you come back to play and you feel like you're the best player in the world you know like maybe a player but I don't know so we have been who are all the people who have not been voted out so nick. Michelle Kim and Denise but the interesting thing about that list with the exception of Kim Ben Nick and Michelle have been considered much like myself in Sophie not top to your winners so there is still a humbleness for them that they A they carry so I mean. It's a complex question. I think it's person to person that's a question that we should probably ask down. When the seasons all over because earn players will find will find ignorance to be bliss and play loosely in a way that they should in some people will play to loosely in get bitten from it are. This is so wonderful to connect with you because that this is a monumental week where we've had so many things come full circle with the survivor and it was a few years ago. I believe was six years ago that you and I actually did a recap of the first episode of survivor. Kagi on do you remember that back in February of twenty fourteen? I don't remember the details of it but I I can't remember. I can't remember who got voted out. Okay well it was. It was a double episode. Where David Samson and Garett Edelstein went out in a two hour episode. And you and I broke it all down back. On February twenty seventh twenty fourteen and one of the highlights of that episode was that we said it had his newcomer on the survivor block. Tony Vlachos and he ended up finding a hidden immunity idol in that episode. And for the very first time we heard. This clip is huge. I do ooh. Is this coming back to you yet? One hundred percent. Yes yes and so. There's some great symmetry here where now this week we get to see Tony. Find his first idol here of season number forty and I wanNA play for you. Tony Finding the idol. And so you can compare to see if the old dog still has it here. Is Tony Finding the idol? This Week I rob behind a big rule and there was little package. I'm grabbed that little package in Iran. Full Force of Tornado spot. When we're safe to look at it as these open it up. I feel it open and sure enough. It's an idol. I am so excited. I really didn't think I was going to nine this season because of the way I was playing. But say hello to my little friend. Okay so Tony Little Bit. More in control oh man. Different editors on L. as a young man's fight with time going he did manage to still Larry's as he also still begging. Yeah Harry's Oh great idol fide from Tony. I think I think we can all come to the conclusion. That size doesn't matter. Yeah yes yes either celebrated now. Have you ever given any thought to what your reaction would be upon finding an idol on survivor? Oh Gosh I have never really thought about it to be honest. The only times I I really think about my time on average usually my dreams and it's usually nightmares. Oh now it's usually jeff saying sorry. We awarded the wrong winner. You have to play again. And I'm like no I don't go that true story. True Story. Yeah Yeah it's I think maybe that will help kind of paint. Why like I I I I actually do not want to go back on survivor. Lades NOT. Let's it's the opposite of most people. I'm like no I don't want to return to that. So can you just walk us through this dream like you get a phone call from Jeff and he says by the? Hey we screwed up. Danielle should have one Panama. Either we need to go back and replay it or do you have the option. Could you just give him the money back? No no no. It's not like that it's like Hey You know what you haven't won yet. There's one or challenge. Yeah usually a life or death challenge. It's really really Harry. Wow and yeah and it just. It's not my thing I I found it to be the hardest thing for me about survivor though Particularly with just the the building relationships with people and then not being able to trust that they were real. That was really hard. And I didn't like that. Yeah I I didn't realize it like you know fresh off the island but then you know as as ideal with my own kind of Process of moving through that. I realized that that was a really big thing for me. Was these these relationships that you had no idea if there was real foundation and you had no idea who to trust. Was that more from the second time that you played or did you have that from both strays enough. It was from both times and I think to go back to what you said about. That guilt is like I remember coming back and like really feeling so proud of the way I played in like Shane who I was pretty close with like I remember how much Shane gave me. A hard time You know about winning and how now such Dick for doing it and As interesting time please. I hope you know I'm not saying that. It wasn't amazing experience. I'm so grateful for anybody's getting that. Yeah I just wouldn't I just don't have any interest in returning to that. It was a hell of the second time was not nearly as much fun. And maybe that's because I don't think I think I think it was just like an in. You can speak to this to rob is like the second time you play. Everybody knows there's Cameras Jon Ward Camera. People are are. It's less about kind of that. Swiss family Robinson Adventure And or about like playing this game and then playing up your character camera. Listen I definitely didn't have as much fun the second time that I played. So you don't need to hear me. You know I have heard this phenomenon. I see this phenomenon where that the cast of the different seasons seem like they're all getting together like on a zoom call and having like these unofficial reunions. Has there been any talk about the survivor. Panama cast having some sort of a virtual reunion. There has not been I mean I. I can't imagine that ever happened with our cast. Neither there are certain people in our cast to get along great but it would be really hard to imagine getting more than four or five people together and it all being copacetic. Yeah Yeah it because it was such a divided season. Yeah I mean divers I could see. Yeah I mean like you just have some really big personalities right. Like chain Courtney and Serena Room together. We'll he's actually a really calming force. You put Shane Courtney and who who else by Bob dog in a room together. And you're going to get you're GONNA get fireworks that gets going to happen. It's going to be great season. Exactly exactly I wonder though because I think that some of these seasons where you know. Oh where like one big happy family this season. Do you think does that have anything to do with is it? The winner is at the conditions. Is it like the the overall twists in the game? Do you think that there's one factor in particularly I do and they actually shared this with me? My second season is that so much of the jury is related to the first person that gets to the jury. Okay at person really sets the tone for like the level of bitterness. The mayor of Ponderosa sets the tone for the season typically. Yes if it's a really bitter jury I'm sorry but you're not getting a zoom meet up in two months after the season hold on now. Does that mean that we are getting a survivor? Blood vs water. Meet up then I I mean I could see that happening. Yes you're the you're the mayor the jury right. Yeah I could see that happening. I think we all all get along pretty well. I just don't think again I just don't think like even in that season I just don't see any of US needing to connect. I love all the people I was out there with. But I don't need to sit with everyone in relive what it was like on the island when we were like intentionally designed to not get along together because this set of personalities will be toxic. And that's the job of casting right like that's what they're supposed to do like figure out how to create a toxic situation Mac drama. It's GonNa be fun to watch. Grab our popcorn. Sit on the couch and think At least at least my life's not like that. Yeah I mean I. It's hard to imagine i. So maybe it's not just the mayor. Maybe it's also like maybe casting did a bad job and that's an maybe like the the the the season that all get along. Maybe it's because casting a bad job. Yeah maybe this gets really well because they all got that family visit like I don't know but I do think that the first person in the jury definitely decides how bitter that jury is going to be. Yeah it makes me a little bummed out that I played on a season. That is not particularly close. Like I I got this more when we went to the ten year anniversary. And we're you there that night for the third and felt like Oh look oh look this whole group of people hanging out together on this group like they had dinner before and we had like four people there Yeah no I felt the same way like when I see the dirty thirty. I'm like man that would be amazing to be really close with with but I'm not I'm not really I don't want to like pretend you know. I am close with certain people on my Casper. Sure but not everyone. Okay let me ask you about this. Extortion advantage which came up This week for came in from the edge of extinction. Did you like seeing something like that in the game ours You know what like at this point yes I I would just like to see them play survivor and see who can play at this. Like the way they've set it up with so many twists and turns. Can you really tell me that? Whoever wins this game cannot say that they directly one from luck and circumstance at this point Like every plan in any of these castaways strategy is foiled by all these strange twists and turns from abuse perspective. It's really fun but the to be out there playing. I mean Jesus it's like he at a certain point you just gotTa surrender and what was so great about this week's episode where that for the first time in. I don't remember how long that we had like a legitimate like big move. That happened in the game that had nothing to do with idols advantages or anything and yes we had the extortion disadvantage for. Tony played but it really ended up just being more of like a character seen for Tony more so than something that directly affected the game play too much and I it was just really really fun to watch how that all came together without any sort of like Trinkets being used in the banks. Yeah it was great. It was a great episode. I mean it was an amazing episode. Also I have a question about this episode that I'm really unclear about yes. How did Tony Play? Repaying his tokens. We don't know we don't know did he did he. Give the Tokens to. I didn't see the problem. I think that his debt with Jeremy Is Square. I think that it wasn't score when they got back to the island from the challenge. Yeah Yeah right so like Tony or or Jeremy. You'll pay up. What is telling you do or like did someone not ask them to pay up right away. Like I'm really curious how that all went down because I feel like that would impact your ability to move to vote. The person that you stole the fire token to Matt's I was thinking I was like. Let's move Sandra exactly. Yeah but I'm curious as to how that played out but I guess we won't know until the end of the season okay. I want to ask you about one of the things that we saw in this week's episode where I think a lot of people wanna hear you away in on. We had our very first ever. I guess they must have known you were coming on the show. This week. The survivor fashion show was here. Let's hear a little bit of a wear a Sarah got the idea for launching her own clothing line. A lot of people think I'm just smart and funny pretty but I'm actually really creative and I can make clothes and with that in mind. Let me bring in a from one of our listeners. Here is a question from the Great Jenny Autumn. Hi Rob Hi. It's Jamie in Canada. Just wanted to say how excited I am to have ours back on the PODCAST Ours Your Voice has been missed a lot over the past few seasons now. I know you've probably got a lot of excellent questions about the strategy of this past episode. But I'm here to ask the question. We are all dying to know. What did you think of the survivor fashion show and did any of Sarah's designs inspire you for any future Kristie dawn collections? Perhaps anyway just want to hear what you thought about it. Thanks and I hope you're doing well by okay now. I don't know how these rank amateurs could compete with what you guys are doing over there at Christie Don ours. But I would love to get your take on the survivor fashion show. Yeah listen I gotta say I am merely the CEO of the company? My wife is the designer so I I don't know if I have the credentials to speak on that but I could have Christie. She's right here. She could weigh in on the fashioned watch. I would love to hear that Kristy. Why don't you come over here and tell them about your thoughts on survivor fashion? Show did you get a little closer. Ira Chrissy how are you? I'm good how are you just so nice to hear from you you too? Yeah was genuinely impressed with the fashion show like the contrast colors the the angles of the skirt. I was like okay. You got a lot of time on their hands. Their heating create about who? You feel like had the it was it all. Sarah's designs do you think I'm INC so I was. Yeah that's what I saw watching it. It took away a fashion show works. It's one designer many models right. Yes well I don't know if other people like the you know also had their own takes on things or if Sarah designed all all of the clothes now Christie was there one of the models that was walking the runway that you thought really had what it took that really was able to. You know that really nailed the exercise of her. Yeah Yeah you know. I thought Kim's walk was really choose. Confident strutting. She wasn't trying too hard like she really. She brought it there as impressed. Yeah Okay Dow. Tony said that he wanted to design some pants that he thought would work. Do you think Tony might have what it takes? Wow those would be epic. I'm imagining some cargo with some slits. The knees you can make them shorts or pants. I don't know it's not really my style but Rhode Island style you know. Yeah Okay Cargo Pant. Oh you will like the cargo paid. I'll okay first things first thing she did when we met with. She threw out all my cargo pants. Such a big thing. It seems like that they're so functional but it seems like that people really hate them. Yeah so they got it. They get a bad rap quarantine thing I think. People are looking more functionality. Tilleke will bring. We'll bring them back. Maybe that'll be the one silver lining from all this. The cargo pants could come back. Yeah maybe you'll be addressed. See we'll we'll say joining thank you. Thank you so much Are Are you like the inclusion of the fashion show because it seemed like that stylistically really went for it. Yeah I did. I thought it was great. I thought it like what I think. They've done a really good job. This is showing the human aspects of it and I think in given the time we are in right now. I think it brought a lot of joy and levity defeat to people's living rooms so I thought it was cool. Yeah I thought that that was really fun so Great Job by Sarah. Lena and we'll see you know. Hey maybe if she can win the game. That's a lot of seed money for this new fashion line. Yeah totally I go for it Sarah. Yeah I do think that it was such a great line from Sarah where she started off that whole segment with you know some people think you know. I'm just like you know pretty and funny and that was very funny. I thought that you like I as much as episode for was was kind of Tony. Vlachos highlight reel. It was also really cemented. Sarah's place as a really talented player in the game and it showed just how likable she was. You know. There's a difference between being likable to the viewer. Which I think she is but more importantly. Are you? Likable to your tribe mates and it's clear that people really like Sarah? That's that's an a necessary quality to win this game. I think that they really do enjoy her company out there. Can you talk a little bit about the you know wild ride? The Tyson has been through this season as somebody who played with Tyson. Good friends with Tyson as well. Outside of the game It's been you know it was. He was down up down again. What'd you make Tyson? Yeah I mean Tyson. I feel like has one. I think Tyson's probably got to be in the top five of all time players. When it comes to challenges I feel like Tyson has a great shot at getting back off the island again like it didn't feel like a fluke that he won that first one to get back in the game that being said it's gotTa be emotionally exhausting for him. I know for me when I got sent to Redemption Island. Yeah my my spirit was broken and Kudos to Tyson for for being able to keep his spirit strong and and you know it's going to be hard to win it again. Not because he doesn't have the scale but just because it's it's anytime you get voted out. It's devastating and touchdown on that because that he talked about this with Wendell and he was basically saying that. Yeah it's it's hard but I mean this is the fourth time that he has been through this. You know he was talking with. Wendell was interesting. That Wendell who was going through this really for the first time Wanted to know how he was doing. Talked about how he didn't think that Adam was doing well Do you think that that makes this an easier pill to swallow for him? Yeah I think like an Tyson said it himself like this is his career like this is what daddy does and our INC for Tyson. It's a it's it's easier to swallow because you recognize this part you know the pitfalls of your career choice. And he he. He's obviously he's been voted as fourth time being voted out so I definitely think he is got the makeup in the in the Moxie to get through it. Obviously it's still a crap shoot like what is that challenging obedient back in the game I would be. I wouldn't be shocked if Adam pulled the flag. I would be perplexed if Tyson did right. Like Tyson's get this thing out all the way through for sure. I think like you know Tyson. Tyson's position where he's old school player. He's got a great reputation as a good player. People don't know Tyson that well like other winners who might not noam they. He's intimidating initially. That was my experience of playing a blood bridgewater. I was like intimidated by Tyson before I met him. I was like who is this guy. He's kind of a he's his own guy. He dances to the tune of zone drummer. And then you meet him. He's really charming and he brings you in and that's actually even scarier because you're like wait. This is a scary person who's really likeable disarming. But I think you know Tyson. He got got got screwed. The first vote vote because they were aiming for the old school players Time around. He just didn't have he just didn't have the allies to get through. I mean she had Kim chosen Tyson to give that idol to be a whole different situation. I guess probably already talked about this. But if Jeremy doesn't leave everyone knows they're going for Jeremy and and they they they survive thing right. Yeah it seems like that. If Kim would've put her on Jeremy Yeah that's the they would've been able to figure that one out. Yeah and then Tyson would still be here get. This just goes to my point and I think any winter that that you talk to would probably say the same thing so much of it is locked so much of it is is is chance right liking. Jerry didn't have that leaves the island thing yearly Drop Council Tyson still in the game no matter what yeah right so yeah. I mean listen. We're cheering on Tyson. I I certainly if I was a betting man which I'm not. I wouldn't put my money on Tyson to win this thing on the shot to get back in the day. It's just it's it's a crap shoot so let me ask you about Tony and Sarah like through this prism of that okay. You played with Tyson and that Tyson ends up being one of the people that votes you out in the game that You has played in blood versus water. And then you guys are able to get past that and have a great friendship outside of the game which I feel like he's not completely dissimilar from Tony and Sarah where now okay. This is my friend but this is also somebody who's a very dangerous player in the game and I would have to think that it's something that's in the back of your head in this hypothetical future season of great. This is my friend and we can work together. But I'm sure Sarah I must have had thoughts. Can I trust Tony in this game? And now he has done that unthinkable thing that she was worried about where now he's completely scuttled her game and so how. How can she move past this? I don't know I mean honestly that was one of the things I thought about like if I were to play again and I were to play with Tyson like I. I would be really really sensitive to and I don't mean emotionally sensitive. I mean like I would be paying attention to like all right. I trust him. Can I trust me as I am? Tyson really is just a game right. Like it's as as you would hope it would be and so that means that like personal allegiances don't really mean anything so am I. Tyson's best choice to go forward with him. It would be hard and if if he did do what Sarah or what. Tony's did this Sarah. If you did that to me I would at that point be like I got to cut ties with him. yeah I it would be such a hard thing to get over because Sarah has seen how Tony operates up close and then he's like okay. I'll give him a chance and then he ended up spending that chance. Yeah exactly exactly so I I. I'm really curious how this thing plays out. I I think as great of a move as it was to watch his fantastic than episode as it was. I think Tony has painted himself into a corner. That's going to be very hard to get out of. What do you think of the edge of extinction you spend time on redemption island in blood versus water? It seems like that in the first time in the edge of extinction it was really treated more as like a place to go. Where for reflection of okay? You go to the edge and it tests you and you learn about yourself on the edge which might be something. That's up your alley but In this season it's really just a more of you know. We're all about the fire tokens and just trying to stick it out to get that chance to get back in the game. Yeah I mean I. I like the fire token twist I think it. It keeps things more interesting for them. Believe me and you know this. Rob Like if you're on the main island there's a ton of time for reflection right like amount of downtown. There's already enough downtime on the main island what. I wouldn't do for a day of downtime on the island. You know what I mean with the kids and everything here but I think at least it gives them something to look forward to not. Everyone wants to be reflective while I would love to be reflective. I don't necessarily think like having twelve people there with nothing to do It doesn't necessarily doesn't make some great. Tv right it's not that fun to watch. At least he gives us some fundings. I mean can anyone argue with Tyson's peanut butter seen or WOULD BOSTON? Rob Finding all those tokens and not telling anybody or even of poverty. And Natalie trying to figure out how to get the bad like these amazing things and even even the the what was it. What what what. What would they call that? The start of the episode that Natalie in poverty did to Tony Dorsett massaging. Yeah that was great TV. So I'm in that if you're going to have if you're going to have the edge of extinction like at least give us annotated. I I do find it entertaining. Also think like. That's the only way they were going to get all the winners to come back. Yard right is like all right. We're going to be two shots coming back. If you get voted out like these are especially all these winters who have kids. That must have been really hard for all of the contestants to go out with their kids. In fact like I'm amazed at amber didn't just hop on that boat with her kids and go home me too me too. Yeah so is that something you know if you went far enough down the road with them and they were talking about okay. You're GONNA come back. It's going to be a winners. Is that something that you would have said like? Hey like if I'm gonNA come all the way out there get like can there be something you would you have pushed for there to be some sort of a second chance for the people after they get sorted out? I mean I think for me I would have. I would have just push for if I get voted out. Either go home or my family comes in gets to come. You know. Maybe that was part of it where I think that I don't know how many of the winners might have said. Hey let me get a chance to get back in the game but I bet most of them said hey and then if I lose like I don't want to stick around the Ponderosa. I'm not going to sit there for you. Know thirty three days and wait for my flight. Rate and production had to know that the big the big characters. We're GONNA begun for early. So they're like. How do I keep Party in Boston? Rob and Sandra. How do I keep them on? Fill out keep them on the screen. Even after they've been voted out in Egede extinction. Kinda does not like Boston. Which really in any other season. We wouldn't have him definitely scratches the ITCH for a lot of people. Was there anything that surprised you from the game? Play of all of the old school people that are out there on the edge of extinction all these people that you've come to know over the years. There was no moves that I was like UH surprised by. I think I think the one thing like overall I was surprised by the amount of time it's taken for people to like settle. Play the game Not that they're not playing but there's just been so much Kind of smoke and mirrors have young. At least that's the way the presenting it. You know it. I I get anxious watching them. Play people really settle down? It doesn't seem like there's really strong relationships. There may be strong alliances that we don't see but like with eight people left. You would think we would have a really clear idea the lines and either. It's a great editing trick or people are just really doing their best to not expose themselves are let me ask you because you're talking about going back out there for the people that have children. Let me bring in a question for you. This is Matt from Toronto. Who has a question for you era longtime listener and longer time ours? Ours was legendary. He's tied with bag for most cast against a winner except ours managed to get there without any hidden nudity adults also for the era when everyone was scared to sit next to that family man or the mall in the final travel council are used the fact that he was dependent honest errands as part of the rationale as to why the Jewish vote for having the end questions for our is given what we've seen from some of his counterparts like Tyson poverty who haven't played since having children because ours believe that he would approached the game differently now that he has children of his own and if so what that would look like because as someone who's at our stage lights first time he played. I'm having a difficult time seeing how that would interfere with my game. Play it all out that the both you stay safe during this Corentin and looking forward to your and your thoughts thanks okay. Have you given any thought to you know if you were to play again? Obviously the last time you played you were not yet apparent now as a father of two would that have changed up the way that you play the game man. I mean it definitely changed the way I play the game like I chose not to play the game of I was largely. You have kids. So yeah I in that sense but I think the truth matters. If I did again I would try to play more like the game. I won. That game. Didn't win and I know. That sounds obvious Specific things like I think I would've been a lot a lot less active in trying to create a strategy. I would have been a lot more passive in like just been present and kind of gone with the flow. The my second season didn't really show so well. I found myself in a position of power that I didn't necessarily want to be in and My first season I was like under the radar like I really wasn't a threat to anybody and we had big bad terry So I think I would I would I would be more trusting more honest and And of course that plays back. It's not I wouldn't do it for my kids but I would certainly WanNa play a game that my kids would watch and say. Oh Daddy did it like that but yeah I think that the reality is. I just wouldn't play again not with my kids at this age and with your kids at this age. I think that leaving call alone with the kids would be like the the hardest part of it whereas just like okay. Well what if like they they need me for stuff like like Nicole like was in like a fender bender like a year ago And I'm like boy if I was like I if I was like what would they do? Like what like I don't even know you know. We don't have family out here or anything like that. So yeah that that part of it would definitely be tricky but then again like that. This is the wrong time to ask me because I would not mind the thirty nine day. Pray that a lot of time right now. A lot of families. I've had a lot of family time. Something funny about that. Like when she was out there she liked promised herself that she would enjoy every moment and now she's in Guantanamo. She's like pulling your yeah. Do you have any favorite activities that you do with the family now that everybody is spending so much time together. We walk down to the park where this little canyon with a really small little park in. It's it's we get to go down. There and river loves baseball so I pitched the balls to river and he wants. He wants to run through drills. I don't really know much about baseball. Run through drills and yeah we we do that to dance a day Whenever I have like an hour to between work meetings two or three times a day. Wow now live wants. He just wants to go to the park and play baseball all the time. That's all he wants to do. Okay all right. Since you're in training Brendan Fitzpatrick. Says really happy to have ours back. It's been so long. How many pull ups can do right now? If if I was lucky I do. The number of Pelosi's I can do push ups so I think too. I think I'm going to push ups. Come on Rob I am. I am not who shops that I need. You know what I need to get that that. That bullet machine you pull up. Pull up machine though the buyer that was over my door. My brother however is fantastic shape. How is vitas doing? He's great he's doing really well. He ran a triathlon is doing great he. He's really his. His life is very full and beautiful. And he's doing great yeah. I mean that we used to joke around about how and then same on beach body on demand. Some of these places is. He's all over you. The Lower Vida want to go back and play survivor again. Yes okay do you think that? Have you given any coaching for how to make that happen? I think The the the jury is out on that the jury is in and he has. He has sullied the production and I don't think he will see a invite. Yeah okay that he could have gone to the edge of extinction now. That would have been good for him if they had that for. Second Chances Right it would've been great. Yeah let me ask you this question. This is from One of our listeners Paulo from Edmonton Opera it Paulo from Edmonson here in Canada. I bought your album back when I was still in high school songs. Like home in sword and stone helps me get through long nights of study. My question is when are you releasing new music or at the very least when you releasing your song on spotify? Thank you okay. New Music in the works. Is that a possibility. Oh man not right now. Dr. Right now I would love for that to be the case I just have. That's one of the casualties of being a parent in running. This business is that I've had my push count just the tax we. We're talking about Kim earlier. That for Kim. Now she's on the wrong side of this vote But it kind of a good thing that ultimately. Sofi didn't seem like that she in Cam were on the same page Jeremy gets to stay. She reluctantly voting out. Running Out Tony in this round. Where where do you think Kim and denise ended up going from here? Do they get back with with Jeremy or do you think the Jeremy six it out with Tony in this new group I think it? All that's all contingent upon their ability to communicate with Jeremy why they flipped because the reality is they flipped his Tony flips right. At least it was made the same now. Gather secret scenes. I haven't seen so I can't speak to that but really the only one was about that. Sarah and Kim have you know a bond over sort of this remorse of people think there bad player because they want orbit brazen right bed person. Exactly so If Kim is able to articulate to Jeremy in a way where she believes him like listen. Tony was gonNA switch so we switched because there was nothing we could do was a hard choice and dead. Tony out of nowhere flipped like this. If she can articulate that I could see Jeremy and coming back or accepting in Kim and denise back in there in a tough position right now but I will say I don't think either of them are are targets. I think gotta be target number one right. Well I think that if I know the Tony Playbook That I feel like that Tony's move is now to go back to Sara and say okay. Great we got out. So-fi sorry I had to do it but now let's let's vote out. Kim. Let's get an and you WANNA to get the band back together and Walter Kim because right now Kim is probably Sarah's tightest Elias but I think she has been she has been so I don't know what the what they're gonNa do but I think his his instinct is to go back to the people he was working with and now vote out somebody from the other side. I'm going to. I'm going to be controversial here. I'm just going to say there's a sisterhood that that Sarah and Kim will form they both were not in the in the know on this vote. N. as great of a player's Bennis. He's not great at communicating certainly. It doesn't seem like he's great communicating in certainly not great at communicating his emotions. But Sarah and Kim are both really good at and so they will be able to further strengthen their bond because they were both not in the know and they will find comfort that both of them didn't know so even if even if Sarah Takes Tony back she's not GonNa flip on Kim this next boat. I just don't see that happening Cut to she on games while we'll see so do you think the move is then. They figure out a way to get to go after Tony but he has an idol right so I guess. Let's go through this this author. If you're Tony who do you want outback's I could see him? Kim I could see him. Okay IF YOU'RE SARAH. Who Do you want out next well? I think Maybe it's Tony. I think that she would want payback. I think she still would want Jeremy Out. What's necessarily changed about that? They've wanted Jeremy out two rounds. I can't imagine why she wouldn't want Jeremy Out. So I think that Jeremy is probably one and then if not Jeremy than Tony or Michelle. Now I may be wrong but WASN. It's Sarah few episodes ago that said we need to get our. She's GonNa come back and she did say that she did. Yeah listen I am. I am not following epic but I do remember the same exact quote attributed to courtney about me around the same time which. Hey maybe maybe their their foreshadowing Akin victory and Sarah knew the whole time but so she did say that about Kim so you can see where Sarah might be incentivized about him out as well. Yup We've also seen Tony talk about how we have brought out germ quite a bit then voted with Jeremy Wright. And and where does Ben Ben? Ben Probably Wants Tony. Out Germany out the most. He seems like that that is was it. Just Mir was jerry staring at Ben as the votes. Read your Jeremy's got a good hate into Ben. Right now And even though Ben wasn't the person voted out. I think that Germany looked at it. Like kind of like an F. You to Ben at this point like oh you thought you thought I was going to get voted out tonight and I didn't but it was still wasn't getting voted out. I do find these exchanges kind of funny right because it's like no one really knows what's going on. Nonni with walk drive in the ship like Jeremy got saved by Tony at the same way that Jeremy would have been voted out by. Tony and Ben would have been saved by Tony. Had he not flipped the no but then but then but then Tony flipped. And he's not so it's like it's funny when they like. When when Jeremy Staring at Benazir really knew what was going on so confident? Right really is job. It's it's but yeah I mean I'm curious to see who wins it. I'm curious to see what comes back. It's been a great season. It's been really fun to watch in very fine. Let me give you one more question. This is from Travis Who has a special requests from you up? I'm just calling because it's my birthday weekend. Always had ours is my favorite survivor winner. Who I played most light and I just wanted to see if I can get birthday shout from Kansas from ours. Thank thank you travis. Okay draft happy birthday brother. I hope for your birthday. You Find Yourself on survivor soon enough to walk you. Through the oddest thing started talking through it okay so my name spelled. Aris in Lithuanian. Which is where my family's from yes out US right and my father my whole winning said calls Miatas and my mother and the other side of the family calls me Rs. And when I started playing music is like cool. What's my name GONNA BE? I should I should have my name be something. People should be what they'd Lithuania pronunciation. My name because it's new people won't be like Oh that's RS and so that's why I went with od us as Asian of my stage. Name and then after working with Iowa's Ska I kinda was like no. You know what there's power in in in sounds and my name is August Lithuanian pronunciation of the word. I'm just GONNA go by August so now even Christie. She calls me hottest still of course respond to rs but off is actually the way my name was mixed view pronounced. Okay all right so so we're back in for on autos. Yeah let's let's try and kind of there's a little joke amongst my friends every time they say. Rsa Office please. And I say it in a real dick headed way Okay well but it's not really meant to defense. I'm I'm just joking but it is out us. Okay well I I want to just be on the right side of wherever you want me to be the right side of history. Really right side of history. Okay all right because I used to really like okay. Like over nunciature amateur is that right and then you know it seemed like the. Tyson's like I just go with ours as and I said okay. It seemed like that when you weren't that it was like we were doing it for the music but now okay now. Everyone calls me out us. Now it's funny. Even my mom is working on it. All right well then. That's that's where I WANNA be Do you have any he? Can you share any of your adventure stories with us before you go and Shit like Iowa Oscar Adventures? Yeah yeah so I don't know. Do you know what I was is? I know a little bit about what it is. Okay so so for those of you who don't know what it is. It's it's a a t but it's a fifty. It's almost like molasses and it's brewed from groupon belief in the CAPI vying which is found in the Amazon rainforest. Yeah and these are not necessarily grow next to each other but when they brew them together. It's like three days at a specific temperature It creates a very powerful drink. And you have basically about a shot glass of it in your deep prayer. Have only done it with Shamans from the Amazon. I drink and it. It's a very confrontational. Call it medicine. It's a very confrontational medicine. It shows you all of the underlying kind of traumas in your life. All the underlying belief structures about support you and it it pulls it out of you and it pulls it adds a You throw up you get diarrhea. It's really confrontational. Challenging can be really physically painful But then typically after after the purge there's usually a vision or some kind of council that you get from the medicine not have it kind of pushes you along in a way in life where you feel like all right I can do. This and life is beautiful. Wow like how to live in harmony with the with all the other beings human and non human of. It's really beautiful stuff in the first time that I did it I was like I'll I'll just try. I'm not a drug user and I think for me like initially I. I associated this with drugs and very quickly. I realized that now. This is not a drug. This is ever released sacred medicine and I started to work with it more closely. It is been really transformational in my life. I feel like I'm happier had more joy In in a lot more president especially in a time like this as we're in this cocoon right now in all of us are being asked to pause to be able to listen more closely to what what majors asking us to do what. I'm super grateful for it but I I highly recommend it is certainly not like drinking your mother's cough Syrup It's really powerful medicine So if anybody has any questions about that kind of stuff they can go to. Finke Ambi Wasi which is where I go. Drink in Columbia and the F. I N. C. A. A. M. B. I W S I dot COM FINKE EBOLA DOT COM. And they were about it but it's really powerful stuff. It's really helpful. It's really healing And I you know. Obviously everyone's got their own view on medicine. What isn't isn't medicine. But it's been really transformational and our whole family. Has benefited from. It has to go to Colombia. Where the SHAMANEE's rats where it served a in America unless you have A native American Permit your there's only one Native American Church that serves it so the new study in the lineage is studying does not have that permit here so I go to Columbia but but there are people who do serve it here. There's a there's a show on Amazon it's called Kentucky Iowa and Kentucky or something like that. Yeah I mean it's it's spreading plant medicine in general spreading all over the world right now and not hard to like put it all together and say wow you know. We're all being asked to cocoon in this plant. Medicine is spreading and there is a conscious it's rising to recognize the interconnectedness of all beings. And I know that might sound a little wild but Yeah it's happening. I encourage people to explore beyond They're known reality in expand into a deeper awareness of connectedness. Okay office where CAN PEOPLE Seymour about everything you guys. 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Survivor B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Season 40 Episode 11 with Aaron Jackson

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Survivor B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Season 40 Episode 11 with Aaron Jackson

"Some game right off sounds law as the R H. A day lay off. I can sell you the our ASE. I everybody in welcome to the RHA. Bnb for episode eleven of survivor winners at war. We are here to talk about Tony. Tony Tony and a few other people to it was a jam packed. Tony filled episode. That led to one of the biggest outcomes through C. And not only the season but I would say of recent memory on survivor. Let me bring in this superstar pain to break it all down. I of course Liana. Boris WHO TONY IS NOT SPLITTING UP. Anytime Soon Liana. How're you doing? I'm good. I'm hoping to Nabi extorted on this podcast but you never know you gotta always read to the bottom of the notes extorted feels weird as like a past tense verb in one be extorted. I was I was extortion. Is now pushing. Feels better like portioned. But I feel like that's not the way that verbs work so we're just inventing an entirely new language which makes sense considering that we are bringing on a very special guest. This week is not only an actor. A comedian and author as well. He knows his way around words specifically most recently with his recent release of his book. The astonishing life of August march a novel so happy to welcome Aaron Jackson to the. Bnb How you doing. Hello thank you for having me here. I'm doing well so before we get into anything. That's a jump the gun too much but I'm sure there are a lot of people that that would love to know who you are as a person and also as a survivor fan as well at the sort of see. What's your story as you walk through the hallowed halls of this? Bnb that has been quite empty for some time recent circumstances. Yeah Well Mike's beautiful introduction was correct. I am a comedian and an actor and also an author. And so yeah. What else is there to me? Those are sort of my. My moniker is yeah I do. I do stand up. I came up in that Improv scene in New York City where I still live and I was on a a comedy. Central show called the opposition with Jordan boroughs a correspondent on that show and then I also wrote a book and my survivor. Life is that I've watched every season of this forty season. Long show since it aired. I've always really dug it so here. We are now that you say that out loud. I feel so much more proud of myself. I'm like yeah have already these like we build the opposite. I'll say my friend. Amy Howard is how I got injured so I just watch it sort of like ashamed cocoon alone and all that. I talked to about where my ninety one year old grandmother But now amy introduced me to other people of like I guess my generation that enjoyed the show. And that's been nice. I'm not completely alone. We exist. We DO EXIST INTRIGUED. Like what were some of the ninety year old grandmas prevailing opinions about survivor conversing with her every single season. And she's been watching since I've probably since Australia or Africa because I got on board. And but she every season it starts and she goes. I don't know I hate this season I hate. I hate all of them. I hate every single. One of 'em and then we get to the merge and she kind of remembers people are now and then she's always like what they're just all idiots every single and then she wins and I can't believe she's still watches her opinion on. That's amazing she's consistent. You know does she do you? I guess she or do you have any sort of big favorites either in seasons or people you've had over the years so I don't know about your Krim seemed seemed like who's the least big idiot from perspective so she's from originally will not originally She lived in San Antonio for a long time. So she is Kim Spradlin Fan Stony Upland with San Antonio and I'd say for me. Generally speaking for me survivor seasons are sort of a wash in less. A woman ends up winning the show. I've always pro the women contest on sand like this season for example going in my my a favorites and no particular order. But I wanted Sandra poverty. Natalie Denise and Kim to do well and I'll tell you that that double booed of Poverty Sandra First Week Quarantine. That actually did hurt me in a deep way. No like setting the tone for quarantine and this is going to be a disaster like this is the last major thing you'll save before you cut yourself off from the outside world unforeseen about a time. Yeah I like the women and I also do. I love it when a gay man can sneak in there and win it too. Yeah so this has been rough for each year I am. I do love Kim Denise Alliance but they can I mean. We'll get to that but I never seem to get on the right side of that vote. Yeah I don't know we really have been seeing Leon like Kim. Saddling is fully inform and winters at war. Even when like after wasting an idol? He's okay I'm finally in on a plan. I'm going to screw over Jeremy. And Lo and behold due to Tony's MAC nations. She's left out once again. All my gosh though. I was dying with Kim being on the money every single to on the fire token every single time. Jeremy Tony's playing us. He's playing you and her calling Tony Outright is face. All of that was so bad. So bad ass. He was so bad. I wrote like Kim knows all in all caps I was that was one of those moments like this is like what straight white men feel when they're heroes are out there like kicking ass like my heroes out there kicking as as loving in empowered as I can do anything am guilty of anything. I can do anything because his also my hero too. She's a lot of like hardcore rooting for I. It's not gonNA go well. I don't think and these next couple episodes for her for her. But this episode or I would love this. Reunions could be weird for many reasons but I know how Jessie like. Little Kids love. You can just imagine either Kim coming out. Jeff says these women in their twenties there just are they love you so much. They're all over. You go to me and the audience. If that was a thing they go to me on zoom exactly like when they used to do like The signs from the contestants hometowns and that person wanted so. You're you're one person celebration at your apartment. Yeah it's like me trying to get my cats involved. Hold the sign. Let's let's talk about this episode because I spoke about at the beginning but what an interesting episode of survivor it's storytelling in particular has been very interesting throughout the entire season but really for the first time in what. I feel like it's been a fairly evenly edited season. We got all Tony all the time. I mean he was so crucially involved in everything to the point where he was the one that made the move. He was the one that found the idol. He was the one that you know had to overcome extortion. And you know I've seen people go back and forth as to whether or not they liked this episode overall Aaron. What did you think about this hour of Tony? So I as I said I do tend to favor the women but Tony is one of the men that I have enjoyed on the show. I think he is very fun to watch Usually I would be so pissed at survivor an episode. Like this. I'd be like Gimme. GimMe a break. But he really. He found an idol he wanted. Mutebi was extorted and he kind up with a plan. So it's like it's sort of his episode. I Dunno Mike. What what were they supposed? How could they have edited around him to make it more balanced but I thought it was spotted? It was he in game changers. He did such a bad job of changing his strategy and he really did do a better job. This time of laying low and it all came flying out. He's like back onto the original island like doing everything and say betraying his own alliance. He's GonNa next week. You know. Try to do damage control. It's like Oh my God he just. He immediately turned back if he loves it. But that's the thing that was he says last week and that secrecy like I pleaded really slow because my wife and remind me that I should do that and then like as soon as wife left. He's like okay because away the mice will play. Let me do everything that I did before and I guess Leon it's just a matter of like I mean it gets a dish showed that patients pays off to a certain extent but I guess at a certain point especially when you're someone like Tony you have to rev up or maybe there was just so much pent up Tony nece inside if cork was gonNA pop off at any point. Yeah that must have been the case because there were even things. I didn't even remember that. Tony did and this episode until I ever watched it Tony. Finding me idol completely forgot about that and what. I was re watching it. I was like what is he digging for. He doesn't dig for the extortion like disadvantage and those. Oh Tony I found an idol. I couldn't even believe that and then I think we're just GONNA get the continuation of that story next week when we have. Tony in his treehouse. Despite shock thing away Tony Moment. That was so funny was when he was reading the extortion clue he and he enters the scene like sliding into home like rounding. I I was like this is insane. I love it because I run away so nobody would know that I was pretty sure people saw sprint. Like Hussein bolt out of Camp Toda. You can't really hide when you're just dashing mile a minute and the noise that that must have made too late not only. Is he running breathing? Heavy and then sliding through all the dirt and sticks and leaves and stuff. It's very obvious. But that editing of that scene was so good because like I also at the Mo- like didn't know exactly if it was an advantage or disadvantage because I kind of miss some of the language the first time I was like okay. Does he get to use it as an extortion. Or is he being extorted by the people on the edge so then by the end it was like this is being played against you. That was so amazing. Oh my God yeah that has to be. I think the shadiest writing an advantage that I've ever seen aside from when Sarah. Apparently said offscreen that said. Don't use the votes deal in the way. Stephen Fishbach did but to like build you up so much of light. This is great. This is what disadvantage will do. Also it's being played on you I guess I guess. I sort of had that last season to write with like Jamal reading through his note of like. Hey you learned a valuable lesson like sometimes you know a good. Somethings are too good to be true. By the way you won't be voting like they really like these sneaks surprises with the survivor writers so shady and sell mean but I love it at the same time so and I think it was good because it was it was ups and downs for Tony. There were there were levels to the performance. It wasn't just one note which also made it really enjoyable. Yeah that's the thing is that I do agree with that. I think this is not something I would like to see every single episode. Because then you get like survivor. Samoa or to go international the most recent season of Australian survivor and that's just not great storytelling but considering how integral Tony was to everything in this episode I could see the editors wanting to have a bit of fun and go a bit unconventional with giving him I think eighteen confessionals or something but I can understand that if people earn fans that they wouldn't necessarily see that but at the same time I feel like we saw enough of everyone else that we got like a general says that's what was happening. It helped the vote was pretty straightforward before. Tony mucked up the works of like okay. We're just GONNA split between Jeremy and Michelle and I mean. I think we have totally for many reasons on the season and one of them is. I think he was able to prevent a pretty. You know. Ho- homage Jeremy Down the line. Vote by taking out arguably I would think someone who was playing one of the best game so far this season I felt bad for so I I have. I liked the other alliance more. Obviously since Kim Denise Fan and so I have been rooting against so fi but Yeah it was sad and I think we've seen this sort of editing pattern throughout the season where it's almost like the episode that you go out. You actually don't get a lot of content which we didn't really get to see a lot from Sophie this episode and that was kind of sad except for at the end which. I don't know how to do this. Baller moment. I mean I know. They're all winners but like still. She's never voted out so one on their eighth time plane so she actually yeah exactly between that and her like walking out saying she needs to take the idol out of her crotch like she just like through. Tsa Away from Jeff and that's the thing as well maybe it's because of like my own brain. I forgot that Sophie had an idol. I know she mentioned it beforehand. But yeah I mean it's it's always tough to track the advantages and I think that Sophie has had that Idelson episode five or so and Lord knows a lot has happened since then right and I thought her whole Michelle's been getting more of it but like I was a lesser winner thing which I don't remember. I haven't rewatch her season because I was. That was the era where it was like. Everybody was getting brought back at every moment and I was so over coach that I really didn't like that season. But I remember loving that. She won and thought she was so deserving so it was. I didn't realize that the fan base sort of hey again. I'm talking to my grandmother. Who thinks they're all idiots? I didn't realize that she was not a beloved winner. Because I was like yes. Soviet rule that was surprising it up. It's interesting and I talked about this actually in my alumni chat this week with Albert who was like one of her partners in crime in South Pacific and he vocalized a similar thing. I think for me comes down to two things. One is that you know she wanted into the finale with as you put it out errand more reputable players in coach and ozzy the you can expect more. People would be rooting for them inherently. Because they've seen more of them and I will say that I think whether because of the people around her or just a story line. The season really was not about her. She got a good amount of airtime. But it really was about Ozzy Coach. Cochran and brand enhance and everyone else sort of had their moment. So when you have some of those people get overwhelmed by character like Sophie in the end it does let Peoples Express this opinion of like why her she didn't deserve it because we weren't told why she won so I can understand why she feels the way I mean. I've certainly seen a good amount of survivor winner. Rankings where they've had near the bottom but I think it's always a good reminder as well of like how winning a million dollars didn't does not necessarily erase all feelings of ill will you have towards your time or towards the fan base. There's a really great secret seen this week of Kim and Sara Sara gets surprisingly emotional worship essentially like it just breaks down to Kim about how she didn't want to nearly come back for this season because she was afraid of things getting too personal because in game changes things got way too personal and they lamb Bassett her for it and she felt terrible because of it and Kim is such a perfect person and comforting force to her in this time. But you know when you when you win a million dollars. I think everyone thinks like. Oh Yeah you win survivor. And like all your sins are forgiven or like any sort of you know mental health issues. You have go out the window. But it only magnifies it sometimes especially I can imagine when you're being compared against other people game changers. Sorry go ahead. I was just saying stop lifts thing as a perfect person. No sorry go ahead Erin. Who was a rough season two as a fan to watch? It just seemed like they were there like on the clock like doing work. Yeah this season does seem more saen like they're having a good time. It seems like more than the fashion show. You know. We're seeing more of it but it seems a little less like game. Changers was depressing to me to watch the second depressing all around south. Maybe that's why Sir is really been swinging into like the. I'm going from COP. Criminal fashion designers like she purposely wants to make fun. She wants to be like the camp. Counselor Yeah Yeah. I love the fashion secrets and they. They spent money on those camera tracking shots and I was like damn we gotta Dahlie in here like it was really well do you. Do you think that the person like the music that they played do? We think that's yet another verse of the famed winners at worse. Or do you think they got like the same person to record like random. Fashion esque song to play. Is there rumors that SIA? It should be? That's her donation. This season she's got other players. You're not getting money instead. You got this lovely song that played during Sarah's fashion show. The fashion show was was was so wonderful. Just because you also had that balance or that Takata between Tony and Sarah as well which was so funny I love. I love Tony being like I think my pets. Your skirts. Any Day of the week never made pads. I WANNA see Tony's pants because I bet they're like haphazardly. Has Ladder there barely. It's like bored out of their minds. I was so confused when he didn't want to watch he's like I'm not watching this like. Are you gonNA stare at a tree for two hours instead of watch? The fashion show. That was so cute though Ben was like yeah like clapping. Like do it now. I've always again. I know that I'm talking about the characters them as human beings. I'm sure they're all lovely. I've always hated. Then but then when his kids came on and then he was so lovely during a fashion show is like Oh. Don't make me like them. I am really loving Ben because I'm going to say I love Ben when he's angry but like the Ben rivalries have always been so much ben character and I cannot believe Liana that we have a substitute for Adam already knew. Adam is Jeremy from the very beginning of the episode when Jeremy Approaches Ben and champions like why did you get rid of Tyson? Who is going to be the the big Big Shield Guy Now? But just goes you really. Yeah the Jeremy has his meat shields apparently bend just needs somebody to get into some sort of fight with every episode like he needs his enemy otherwise he doesn't know how to play the game and I love that the episode also that had that staredown between the two with them like Jeremy votes to them just kept staring each other. Unblinking and then. The Sophie votes kept coming in and they kept staring at each other. Yes I'm good. Well good well. You know sad. That item has gone but happy that Ben his new foil. So yeah this. Is Ben Second Island Wife Right now? I guess third if you Count Christie in there Oh yes adam was so fun. This season he was he was for that Weird Second One. Tyson thought he was gonNA quit. Oh yeah that was a beautiful moment looking up at the back. But he's probably looking for an idol. Oh yeah I I yeah. There's something tied up there. Something like that. I can see that he sees a floor to Lee. At the top of the flag polling starts inching his way up. You should just be like. Can I play this whole problem? I brought the flag like the play the flag and I love a clue just sort of like in a piece of trash like a wind. Bobby poverty poverty is like over. Somebody had wine like she could very regarded as well. Someone had a good time last night. I just have to walk again. Left behind the whole extortion admitted wasn't even hit and it was just sitting next to the Rock and not only just picks it up trash here man like climate change and garbage. It's like it's getting all over the place through a major things through it back into the ocean. You sound like we need to get this off our island domino's box that's a good idea. They should hide the clue in like a piece of pizza box. Or like I don't know inside like a used condom or something like some former refuse didn't Carl who had to find a coconut like a random coconut like floating in the ocean limited time limit. Like before you get washed away. Find this random doping. Yeah the add that to the list of Lake Rando advantages. Well let let's start talking about. We spoke about a bit. Let's talk about the shock boot here from this episode. So Liana going in. I know that you and I had a part of the round table that spoke about sophie coming in but she was you know maybe one of the bigger route wildcards. Jeff said she probably changed the most in her time between seasons maybe. She considers herself a lower tier winner. How did you think that Miss Clark was going to do pre season on season forty? I said that Sophia was going to roll her eyes on the island. Approximately one million times. She would create a tight partnership with the Danny in the game and then after the game they would team up to create a scented candle line based on the smells of survivor. I'M GONNA assume there was something in the pre press. They gave me this idea because reading it. Now what the Hell were you on? Both I have no idea what. That's what said candle where you huffing came up with that idea. I don't remember anything about that about scented candles. I don't either. I've no idea so I don't know Blue Harvard. Co Harbor Cove is the candle. I have right year. Maybe it was that one. I don't know I also said that she would come up with the new hotness analogy of the season so Aka like the pilots and passengers type analogy. I would say she did that but I will say she was like the Queen of like the metaphors this season like when she compared edge of extensions of that trip that she took to the prison in high school. I think with all the things on her resume tracy sleeping election and basically I mean knock the hell out of whatever just was trying to do with Lazy Susan this episode so weird then I also said that she would have a modest forty one fire. Toga and fifteen confessionals. Her ally was Danny and then completely missed. The boat on this one enemy was Sarah. So I mean to be fair Sophie was one of the people that had written down. The CERVO. Preseason right she was one of those. I believe the vote actually said like. I don't know what comes. After copping criminal we all found was fashion designer. And we all found out that Sarah Sophie would become one of Sarah's closest allies because that swap tribe so many questions answered now. The question is what scented candles are gonNA come out of the season. I mean they could still start a business together on the edge of extinction like did say something about candles like wh. Where did this come from another go back and rewatch their preseason press just to find out would you fight? Kennel that smells like the edge of extinction. You know maybe does it. Smell I guess it depends on it. Smells like it. It's not like it's not like flag and trash it empty wine empty wine bottles flags and like a bunch of firewood for forty logs of transport. So I thought that Sophie would get targeted early in a close vote. Don't know what that means. I said she would get taken out by somebody playing an advantage. I mean Tony did an advantage. And her blunt confessional. Delivery will make her the low key star of survivor social media. I set her. Closest ally would be Kim. I did say her worst enemy would be Tony. She had a sixteen confessionals and five. Fire Tokens okay interesting. Yeah so I mean the Tony Thing is pretty spot on out I think and I mean most pertinently. This has been making the rounds on social media. I think just came from the fact that Sophie was one of the main players to really predict. And Call Out Tony's game back when she guests during survivor Coug I on and I think she said basically like if I was on a season with Tony that someone I would not want to play with. Because he's too chaotic so I felt like it only makes sense that she sofi was known for being like really slow and steady in her first season that I can imagine that someone like toady of any any out of the Tony that we know is just going to be held for her but yeah the the big the Big Moo. What was it the It was big movies. Been wanting to take credit. Yeah there was this whole weird discussion. Go a got at tribal council about like it was all about big moves right. It was this idea of light yielding a resume and the double edged sword. Jeff compared it to a Lazy Susan where it's constantly spending and you don't know who's big move it is or who's taking credit for it and then I just love Sophie calling it out being looked. Yeah there's resumes but like quality not quantity. Yeah they were. I loved them. Sort of like pushing back against modern survivor production neglect. Sometimes you just like you're just in a good alliance and you should vote with them rather than screwed over for absolutely no reason to build a quote unquote resume that at low. Help because you're screwing over the people that vote for you know. I thought that was really fun for me. Yeah but I think Tony was just like I don't know if you had some music in his head or something. He just was not listened to that whatsoever. Tony of course exempt from that. We'll speak Tony so let's get into our first game here. This is a game sent by Robbie Biz to us where he called this game. You think you know with Tony quote so like I said at. Tony had a whopping eighteen. Confessionals the most of any contestant on a single episode of survivor including Finales which can last up to two hours. So yeah lot of lot of Tony concentrate here just very very pulpy. Orange JUICE. This week in survivor. So robby took a snatch of Tony. Quotes and blanked out some words to how this is going to work is. We're going to go back and forth here. I'm going to read you a tony quote and basically you're going to have to fill in the blank. The blank is always going to be about one to three words. And you're going to have a choice here we're going to. We're going to twist it up a little bit here if you think you know the answer without needing to see possible options you can guess outright and if you do you get two points if you would rather have some options will give you three multiple choice options but if you get it right it will only be one point so risk reward a constant survivor moral dilemma. Leon I know you re watched the episode getting that Tony Content. Let's see if it pays off here and in the points. Can they please be called? Fire Tokens yes. Absolutely point will be immediately into fire. To- case you so much okay. Good when can I extort someone special extortion round? Yes random person and ask them to give you invisible. Fire Tokens gained for another answer. Okay sounds good. Well let's start with you here so again. I'm going to quote you have to fill in the blank two points if you want to get it right outright and a one point if you get a choice of three options here we go. This is in chronological order with the episode. Awhile everybody's always tired of tribal. They're exhausted. They sleep like blank. Yeah I'm GonNa need the options okay. Is THAT LLAMAS LOGS OR BABIES? Oh shoot let's go with logs. That is correct yes. Tony said that everyone was exhausted. Sleeping like logs and that was that was how he was able to get up in the thick of the night and look for an idol. Even though I guess. Nick was a little bit more of a light sleeper or log. I suppose less log like more vampire like were you know that. I don't know what Tony was thinking before. We move onto more funding games for take a quick break to listen to a word from our sponsors and we are back. Let's keep on keeping on Erin. Here's yours speaking of Nick. Well I'm looking. Nick shows up and he's blink. I'm like this is my area man. What you hear on Kinda Wanna I'll take. I'll take the options please. Is It cramping my style messing me up or invading my privacy? I think I'll go with a crimping my style that is correct. Yes Tony Accuses Nick of making him look cool and cramping his style. That's his fashion. Show looking for the idol and the dark. That's right yeah maybe maybe off to do his own fashion show like you said Aaron him looking for idols. Night where it's Cammo. Tony Brand Bentley. On a I went to work I was looking at local. Looky looky looky looky looky looky scratching scratching blank look look look looking idea I need the options. Was it a looking up. Be Digging digging or see moving leaves. I'm going to go digging digging. I'm sorry it was looking up all the road. I went right to work. I was looking looking looking looking looking looking looking scratching scratching looking up. Oh looking looking for Yes yes. Yes of course or score on the ground when he was digging digging. I think that the probably the seventh looking is when he actually found the idol. Yeses right Aaron question for my real job never undercover like this. The real birds are way more dangerous than getting blindsided on survivor. So right now. I'm having all the fun out here on survivor blank. I'll take the options. Was it a world be planet where see land having all the did? I hear the end of the course. I'm so sorry but right now. I'm having fun out here own survivor. Blink Server World Survivor Planet or survivor land. I'M GONNA say Survivor Planet. I'm sorry it's the newest theme park the nation survivor land. Oh they are classic whilst that I. I think Tony would actually build a theme park. It's sort of like the. We bought a zoo like we bought an amusement park. And Tony we. Try to flip into survivor. Land. We bought a piece of Fiji yes and turned it into survivor land. I'm picturing though more from Beau Jack. Course than I don't know if he goes watch the show. But wouldn't todd makes his amusement park and it's like a flaming tires and like Greece buyer alive. Tony Land Enter survivor. Land by Tony Energy. A LOT OF PLACES TO HIDE. Maybe like to watch the ride from the garage. Yeah that's what the QR is like. You can watch things from the trees now. Construction crew get to work. And what you dig. Dig Dig dig. Dig Up dig all right. Let's go to Yuliana. Yes I'm going to extort somebody because in real life. I can't do that but I know it. Sounds like fun when I'm watching the movies the mobsters extort people for money or they're going to break your legs or break your blank if you don't give me this and that so I'm excited I'm just GonNa Guess Rake your back. I'm sorry it was. Break your fingers okay at least narrowed down to a body part yeah you were basically moved from extremities the mobsters either extort people to break their legs or their fingers on the other. Not Options were kneecaps. Funny Bone or your pants. Yes I'm gonNA break your seem like the fashion wars that Tony is going to set his goons on Knicks. GonNa come rip up. Sarah's close Aaron. Let's go to you okay. I'll tell you what man if this is real life doing some prison time. This is extortion. Code Blank. Something I know. It's a criminal code. Extortion is illegal in the states. I don't know why it's not legal. Here in Fiji. This is ludicrous. I got three talk. They want six. This is extortion code. I guess for the Thrill this is extortion. Code Code Red. Sorry we were looking for a number and a letter in this case. It was to see coach. Tony just tries to site I think law and just forgets into the code for it is actually a real thing or is Tony. Just making stuff up. I can imagine like in in like a police handbook. You know a code for every sort of illegal activity. I can't imagine there you go. That's the number that some sort of crime because it's a song or twenty quite famous the mouth. Of course I'm looking at what five one five. Oh means temporarily involuntary psychiatric commitment of individuals who present a danger to themselves or others due to signs and mental illness. The ending of that. Maybe you know what to be honest. I just made that up. I guess at any numbers and I'm sure it would have been some sort of police code. Onis Toni's approach as well. Well now I'm looking at titled to see the New Jersey Coda criminal justice. Oh okay so I think this is about. Let's see I'm seeing rules of construction which is very on brand for Tony. Yeah it looks like it just looks like a lot of yes. A two seat looks like a precursor for reporting some sort of illegal activity. He just forgot the rest of it. Got It okay. I'm so impressed especially at your brain mush at that point. I can't imagine how many numbers he must remember let alone like an actual prefix for a legal code and he had done all that looking and looking up so much worry. How can you remember? All those things should have looked up to. He should have looked up. The right code formerly all right Liana and then so this. Is Tony Talking to Michelle? Who really tries to like sneak her way out of giving a token to Tony. Clean and says Tony. I spent my tokens on an advantage. I say wow that great Michelle. How much did it cost you? She said four. Or Five Tokens. I'm like WHOA. The price of blame just went up advantages. I'm sorry the answer was milk weirdly. I we had you know it was milk. Aaron. I just remember it being so funny. I was like what is he talking with? Up delivered by drone especially exactly pays service charge for that. But Yeah Tony I mean. Tony was likes to make a lot of like store. Metaphors like remember when he saw the fire at the birds. Would you have to go to the Bodega? And you can't even afford a stick of gum like. He really likes this analogy. That he's sticking in the store and so he talks about the price of milk going up worse. Of course all right Erin. Everybody's very calm cool and blank and you're tired of all the talking chattering like hey we're solid. Let's just talking if they want to stop and slow down. That's better for me because I'm not stopping and slowing down. I'm always thinking win. They're not I was guest collected. Ooh that's a trick question. The answer was quiet. Tony got a bit of derailed and didn't finish the actual phrasing zoning I would love to hear it the book of Tony Versions of phrases so calm. Cool and milk yeah right. It's just a list of all these phrases with like the ED part missing or some sort of mistake like a stitch in time saves saved your life. Oh my gosh. Yeah Lake early to bed early to breakfast. A few chocolate chips short of a Crayon box. Exactly like Oh. He's not the dollars. Crayon up the kids knows the just Tony `ISMs across the board all right Leon back to you. I can't believe it Jeremy's blank. I'm trying to save him at begging him to save him. Chevy's blank all right. I. I'M GONNA play it safe. I took some guesses. They were completely wrong. Let me hear the options stupid reluctant or Delusional Oud Delusional. I'm sorry it was reluctant. Oh I bet delusional. It'd be like a very tony word calling someone and delusional. Yeah I do love that. Tony just like I'm begging Jeremy to save himself. I know it's hard for him to say like listen. I've been trying to get rid of you but right now I don't want to because yeah you gotta get episode Tony. That was so fun. Yeah we'll that whole interaction was just so funny because it was like the entire time. He's playing Jeremy and then the one time he's not playing him of course. Jeremy's like I don't know about that. Yeah yeah he was playing like a day ago his plate of the bridge. We're going for Jeremy next to my best friend though the next day is like I don't know about this. So how could Germany doesn't believe me I will say. I also am impressed that Jeremy is still in. I'm impressed by Jeremy. Still in the game I've got piled friend. Yeah good for him especially because you know remember that he lost Natalie the very first episode and so for him to stay this long I think is impressive and also remember that at the merge he might have gone instead of. Wendell had he not want immunity that time it has been a surprisingly slippery slope for Jeremy. Considering like how rock-solid he was in his second season a little bit of a complicated this one. This has to Blake's the less trouble with a bit blank. Everybody was mentally exhausted physically exhausted so he put a plan in blank. We were like okay. Let's just take to it to tap today. Everybody are we good are we are we? Are we good? Everybody said yes. Yes yes yes. Yes and we took it easy. I have what I would assume. A normal person would say but I don't It's milk and milk exactly. That's the pits. Bilk only put a plan in milk and got a very soggy. The tribal was chaotic. And they put a plan in motion. You know what I'm GonNa give you a point because most was one of the motion was one of the blanks. While the other one was trouble was a bit hectic. Oh that's synonyms. I think it counts. No it doesn't count. What am I saying? Don't count. No Yeah I think only one fire. Okay well the good news is you didn't need much. Because unlikely on US predictions we were surprisingly sparse. And Fire Tokens despite the price of milk. Going up but Aaron squeaked it out right there at the very end you have won this game two to one clearly. You know Tony WLAC goes but I think we've all learned that. The man is as unpredictable in his win. Manner of speaking as he is as a survivor player. Congratulations I feel. I feel blessed by some peanut butter. Blessed and highly favored. Alright I want to speaking of Tony and speaking of Fire Tokens Tony. Burrows FIRE TOKENS FROM JEREMY. From Ben from Nick I believe. And so he does require tokens and he earns to fire tokens by winning immunity. This week so I want road alla t you guys Mike. Who Do you think Tony is going to pay back? We'll pay back anybody. I guess. Maybe it's the first question and if so who you think he pays back. I I also want to say the extortion advantage. I'm not a huge fan of it. Like created some fun moments but. I'm still not sure how I feel about like I don't know for some reason. There's a difference in my mind between sending players the opportunity for an advantage and like forcing players to do something or else. They get penalized. Because of it. You know and I feel like Luckily Natalie in poverty wanted tokens so the only quote unquote only charge six. But I feel like in another world if you have like a bitter AF person on the issue this thing. They could be like great. Twenty Fire Tokens please. And then that person's just absolutely screwed so I'm glad it worked out here and I think this is actually a great proving of Tony Social Capital. He was able to gain so far that he went to Nick. Ben and Jeremy guys from basically three different contingencies and they all were able to give them a token because he was able to like make everyone believe that they were on his side so I give him massive Kudos Internet sober. He deserves Kudos. Kudos Kudos. That being said my first instinct is that he paid back Nick and Jeremy so that they had an incentive to vote with him I was GONNA think that he may be paid back. Nick and band just to like keep the alliance feeling safe and just get. That is confusing. Maybe he did pay back Jeremy. But you're right. Yeah well my original thought was oh. He's going to. He's going to borrow from Jeremy because then he's GonNa vote him out so I'm like you know. Take care of her. That was definitely the plan. I think walking into that immunity challenge so I think that was very easily his Mo and then for some reason. He was just struck with inspiration. Maybe it's because he has the necklace around as the one and he had an idol also in his pocket so he really does have. He does have room to be a little bit Hasty or not he Stephen Rash Swagger swagger play more chaotic. You know 'cause you have stuff that you can fall back on yeah. I think it's interesting because you know we kind of saw a little bit in the preview of Sarah being mad af so I do wonder if it's like okay. No I will get rid of Jeremy this week and so he won't bother paying Jeremy Back because it's like okay. We're going to get rid of Jeremy. Do you think you can give her fire tokens. If Sarah Fire Tokens I'm sorry here. Like recompense ooh. Yeah that'd be interesting but I wonder if it's like a debt collector kind of thing where it's like nick comes to Tony and Tony's I. I don't have the money man like go to Sarah. She's got all my money and then it's just like a chain it. He does if he is able to rain all his Alliance of Sarah and then he will be playing his original game and they vote out Jeremy and then he screws one of them over. It wouldn't be wild. It'd be funny to see if they all fell for it. But they're all they're all smart so what he did. You know described over one and went back and screwed over wine and went back. The interesting thing would be if he votes out. Jeremy Ben Dick than they are like crazy. I Know Tony. Has Fire Tokens? Let me sell in this advantage. Yeah yeah the let me just go. You know 'cause I wonder if we're GONNA see another kind of punishment I doubt it but another sort of like punishment disadvantage come from the edge of extinction. Because you know now maybe people are a little bit more but her like might send stuff to Tony being like screw you. Tony like out. Yeah I do wonder I guess out of the people on the edge of extinction right now. Do you think would have been most likely to use the extortion advantage for malice. Rather than gaining fire tokens. Ooh That's a good question. Who Do I think? Out of all of them Let's see we'll Tyson was Kinda mad cause. He flipped entire table off when he got voted out so but I feel like he would have calmed down. Maybe by the time he got there but if it had been right after. I think that could have been really fun to watch. Yeah the people. The most recently voted off are GonNa be the mom or dad or maybe Boston rob would be mad at ban. Yeah I'm trying to think. Yeah I think this does feel like pretty truly move and I feel like this is something tiresome with. I mean before this episode. I would've said Natalie and Natalie even vocalise is that in this episode right. She's like I don't have any allies like I could very easily. Just use this mess with somebody. She was excited at the opportunity to do so. But the fire tokens was just too bright and so her and PARV collaborated together at the squeezed. Six Tokens Tony Slash Ben Slash Nick. Slash Jeremy I wonder if production like okay. Let's say Tyson gotten it or or whatever. It doesn't matter who we'll say God and it was like I'm GONNA ask for Sixty. Nine fire tokens bet or check or whatever like what would have been like alright over. It had to be the only the amount of fire consider in play but even still that would be so many but surprised. I thought can't you can't ask like Infinity Fire Champions? Yeah just like you will not vote. He will not play an immunity so brutal. And not even. Just you're out of your immunity challenge but you also don't get to vote is so that was a but he did it. He pulled it off. Yeah that's that's kind of interesting okay. Would you change the advantage in some way to maybe make it like one or the other like Mike especially because you know you're not the biggest fan of his advanced? Well I don't even know what to call it this advantage. Yeah Do you think like give. It have been one that would have been better or just like not at the concept is losing haute is so bad. There's not that many people APSO that's huge. I don't understand. I agree with Aaron. I don't understand why they didn't just the island of the idols thing you fail. You lose your vote instead of having a pile like Angelou's immunity. I guess they really want to push people to try to overcome this extortion. But like Erin said this is a key piddle vote especially if it was initially set up to be five versus four that some people thought that like people are going to work their asses off to overcome that extortion. Even if it's just for one thing Yeah Right. Yeah very true okay. Well let's let's switch gears a little bit although we're still talking fired Hogan's and kind of a little bit still talking Tony But we were thinking you know. How do we make an extortion game? And I've had these thoughts or something happens that survivor. Like how do I make this into a game? And there's no active figure it out but we got kind of close. I think this week we are going to be playing survivor. Deal or no deal instead of extorting you I will be making. Some offer is as the banker to play our version of dealer not L. so in traditional dealer no deal you have cases that are packed from one dollar. Well technically all the way to one million dollars and you will try to get the most amount of money of course today. We are playing for fire token soon so I have sort of a board for you guys to please let me just like go ahead and kick things off a little bit of a Howie. Mandel inspired scripts helped wheeler no wheel. Okay so here we got just didn't I? Okay hello everyone. I'm your host Lee on abortion. Welcome to deal or no deal where our lucky contestants are hoping to leave. Today's podcast with one million fire tokens but will they be successful. This game is a slippery slope. Put Twists and turns keeps you on the edge of your seat that quote. I did pull from the intro of dealer. No deal upset south sound. It's not too unfamiliar from like something. Jeff probst would say tribal council. Oh yeah all right so you know what was it. Shoot a drink before. War is always a good idea. Free SLOW PIT OUT AFTER THAT. Right full of twists and turns Okay so this is GonNa work. We have twelve available cases. Each packed with a different amount of fire tokens ranging from one to one million fire. Really just trying to make this happen so today the way this is. GonNa work is Mike and Erin. You two are going to be playing as a team so the very first thing. I'm going to need the two of you. To do is to agree on a case number that is going to become your case so please make a number between one and twelve Aaron. Do you have any affinity for any numbers between one and twelve. Seven seems lucky. I don't know why Okay Mike. Do you think about that. I mean listen. I'll go with seven. It's like halfway between sure. Okay Oh okay also. I don't know how this board. Dj Lebel client at this last time again. So number seven is off the board and it is now your guys his case. Okay so what we're going to do now is I'm going to need trying to tie this into survivor. Is Somehow you have to vote off three cases aboard? And then you will get your first banker deal okay. So we have to vote three cases off. Are there any that you don't particularly like Erin you feel are threatening to to is striking me as suspicious? Yea well ever. Since I saw nine on the boat I was. I just had a bad feeling that they turn on me at some point. Yeah I'm I'm cool to get rid of nine to nine and let's pick an element of. Should we go with the minesweeper approach and go with like one around seven to see you? Don't think it works like yeah. Maybe six okay. Two six nine okay to sixty nine so you have pulled to six thousand nine off. So we're GONNA do is. I'm going to reveal the values in those cases that you have pulled off the board so drum roll at early okay. Incase number two. Let's go ahead and have our model Aka me open case number two it is. Oh no the million hoops not great. Not a great start guys. Okay but that's okay. You saw the half a million dollars. Half a million tokens or on the board. And a million million fire tokens. It's too heavy. Spend it on milk acting now. I mean come on come on. It's the price of milk is gone up sky-high. Don't need that all right. Let's go ahead and open up. Hase number nine it is. Oh No that happened. I guess we're just have bad instincts about two nine. We thought they were so bad but they were working out for us. We they were suspicious. They ended up being the big ones. Something about them was off in the wrong way instead of the wrong direction. Unfortunately okay well we have one more. Take off the board before you get your first. Y'All and that is number sex. Oh that is B. E. thousand dollars down and fire token container. Okay Yeah Okay not ask that. The quarter of a million fire tokens up. They're not going to lie to values really kind of hurt you bet but that's okay that's okay all right so oh rate should've made. I'm getting a phone call from the banker. Okay Yeah Hello Yeah I don't I don't know if these guys have stamina to go all the way. Yeah Okay Yeah. Are you sure that's what you WANNA do? Okay all right guys. The banker is note. The edge of extinction is prepared to offer you. Forty thousand one hundred and eighty five fire tokens. That is already thousand. One hundred and eighty five fire tokens. I will leave it up to the two of you to debate and discuss kind of blue this round. What are you thinking? Should we keep pressing our luck or should we take the really random deal we can take the the random deal but I do feel like we have to pad are resume and makes them more moves exactly this Games one on big moves? You know you miss all the shots you don't take so we're slamming the coconut shell over that but in the Liana no deal no deal and then the lights like Oh ten the okay no deal all right so now you have to eliminate more aces off the board all right. Let's talk over the opposite. Aaron I'm feeling good about eleven so I feel like we should take eleven off. Yeah that's what I say we should. Our instincts are clearly wrong so yeah. Let's take eleven. Okay all right. Let me let me before you continue. Let me go ahead and reveal that way. You can know if your strategy is working or not. Okay we're going to go ahead and take eleven off aboard. It is the one hundred. Wow and getting off the ones you like Erin okay okay. Now what do I feel good about? I guess they feel good about threes. So maybe we vote off three all right. Let's do it okay. We're voting off three. That is oh my gosh. It's the fifty. Wow Wow okay this is the this is a string of good luck here. Ignore your instincts. Is the moral all right all right? Let's see I'm going point at a number eight and I'm going to go the opposite of that which is five getting rid of five. So do I don't remember. House works on the show. Five hundred how okay. So this is overall a really good round for you guys. Aaron how are you feeling? I'm feeling good. I'm now certain the one dollars seven because that's what we picked right away. That's true but other than that. I feel good okay. Other than that. You feel good all right. So let's go ahead and call up and see what the banker banker calls me. Hold on such a stupid fit all right. We're done with that all right. The bankruptcy called the Bait. No extinction texted me. Did you like the challenge? When you're like. Hey guys we got a text Motorola phone from extinction you could open. And it's like an excel. She liked music video. Yeah okay a great. So the edge of extinction via message in a bottle is prepared to offer you guys. Sixty thousand one hundred and sixty. Nine Fire Tokens ooh slightly higher slightly higher. I don't know I mean we. I feel like at this point I could go down in flames. And and just keep playing keep picking the baskets the briefcase baskets now are. They should've been basket. I should made this little thing. Survivor did not. So let me let me just recap free guys. What's left on the board? So you do. Have the quarter of a million fire tokens. You have the a hundred thousand fire tokens and then you have the ten thousand one thousand ten and one had left on the board. Well that's the thing I wonder if W- because if seven doesn't need to fire token which I totally believe we won't get the opportunity to switch it out until the end so I guess the question is. Do we stop now or do we keep going until we get that opportunity. It's tough it's really tough. I've never really been more nervous in my life than I am in this we could take it and just and then. And then what? What is the rule we get to switch our case out? And maybe make more money. Is that what happens now? So if you take a deal the game is done but if you keep playing the game so next if you if you say no deal you only have to eliminate two cases before you get your next offer okay. That's huge now. Yeah matters but if you do all the way down to the end where there's only to the case that you guys picked and one case on the board you do have the opportunity to swap. Hey says this is. My heart is pounding if only there was lights and dramatic music as well sedimentary conditions. Let's just eliminate two more for the sake. I'll throw your alive exactly. We need a little bit of tinge in our system so slammed on a coconut. Shell no deal. No deal did okay. We're saying no is that are those that music or sound like a motorcycle running down. I don't know Right now you have to pick two more cases so let's go ahead and open up one case off the board. Are we still going to stick with the reverse strategy all defect to you for this first one? Okay it's like. We have a lot of even numbers left on the board for for those against see but we only have one odd number which is one so that one. That one's scares me that odd number. So maybe that I can't remember scares me means that we should this is like the reverse reverse reverse. This is the princess bride. Yeah yeah this is going to drink that let's limit. Let's eliminate one unless you don't want to buy. No let's do it. It's all your call. Oh God okay Yup okay. We are eliminating one off. The Board Dow was the ten thousand fire token K. Is exactly whereas could be worse? He still have the quarter of a million and the one hundred million one hundred million. If I'm only one hundred thousand fire token case left on the board okay so I'm closing my eyes and I'm moving my finger around. This board could sniff frantic faction wherever it lands. I'm going to go the opposite direction. Oh yes e okay all right. I'M GONNA choose case number ten please. He's number ten. Okay let's go ahead and open that one up it is guys. It is the one fire token. Yes the board not in your case. Congratulations that's huge okay. So one from the upper tier and one from the lower eliminated. Yo that's right. Yeah okay so we're getting down to the wire here. There are four total cases in play. Your case may contain a quarter of a million buyers. The other cases are the hundred thousand. One Thousand Fire Tokens or the ten fire tokens. Now I am getting. Oh what what. Oh is this a is this a sound effect? I'm trying to play on my phone. Maybe guys to hear that no. It's the softest phone ring in his pocket. Deep inside of it goes in. My other. Purse always stored as phone backstage. And he's gotTa go get it all right. We are getting a deal from the banker. Now let me tell you. Banker is not happy. You guys that you knock one fire again off the board but the banker is willing to offer you. Eighty seven thousand. Seven hundred and fifty. Three Fire Tokens Up The two of you say deal or no deal now. Let me throw this out there. If you say no deal you only have to eliminate one more case. Wow so what's it. GonNa Be Gang Yale or no deal? I mean. That's a pretty high. Amount of fire tokens a lot of peanut butter. It's like the would be like second place and survivor after taxes exactly. Yeah Yeah third-place money which is like pretty good when you convert assuming it's one token for a dollar. Yeah you'll probably get invited back for another season because you did pretty well unless you were the goat but even then cast made it back so I take maybe just for another option of another all right on. I'm taking the coconut Shell. And I'm eating it which I think means. We're taking the deal or taken the deal. Well congratulations. You both have earned eight hundred. Eighty thousand seven hundred and fifty three. Point Tokens. Which is I? Don't even know how you're going to get that home. Because when Tony was holding sex it seemed to already like a lot of all closed. Own personal belongings. No matter you're just carrying all the Fire Tokens at your carry ons. You're going to have to fill the Boston. Robin Sandra heads. Full of fire tokens ship them back to the United States. Now let's see whether or not you made a good deal in case number seven your case there was one thousand. Fire Tokens. Okay you earned. I guess. Eighty six thousand more fires again that you would have gotten so well done. Congratulations the audience plotting from back. I'm using my fire tokens. I'm taking a one way trip to survivor. Land enjoy enjoy hiding in the trees trees and not watch a fashion show right. That's strictly forbidden and survivor lands. Well well done. I think you guys did much better than any of the survivor's would've done so you know. His you have more fire tokens. So that's how I was going to say. Do you think that any particular people would do? Well for dealer no deal considering how high stakes in nerve racking it is yeah. Tony has to be on dealer no deal. I would make big nerves. I Dunno Tony kind of looks like Howie Mandel. Who could take his place? Yeah yeah that's that's possible also sort of inside baseball comment so the way that I did. The value amounts is essentially. Just take the average of what was left on the board and the fact that sixty nine thousand one hundred sixty nine came up as I kid you not the actual average of what was left made my life and I was like his being cheeky. Legit the average so horny little game. This song came in the Marta. Who would have thought dealer? No deal or Neha game out there. Well as we file away. Our Fire Tokens. I WanNa talk about something. That's a Middle East sort of survivor related but sort of not Because I saw a tweet this morning Liana that you have introduced your sweet booth thing Infra F- Akili to the world of flavor of love. Have you not so I have? I have so. I watched all of the flavor of Love Rock of love. I Love New York. I love money. Daisy of love the weird one with frank the entertainer. Real chance that love. I watched all of those. When they were in their heyday and come to find out the person I want to spend the rest of my life with has never seen a single one. It was time to correct this gross injustice in the world and I made him watch the entire first season of rock of labor of love. Yesterday we watched the whole thing. It was essential laziness. We Ate Pizza. Nice cream and watch flavor of love on the couch. It was amazing. That sounds incredible so before we get into these survivors very thin application of. It doesn't hold up because that aired what initially like two thousand six or something. There is definitely some comments that would one hundred percent. You would be cancelled today but surprisingly you for what I expected. So yeah I would but overall I mean in terms of the drama and the entertainment of it absolutely holds up it is iconic Aaron. Have you have you ever been a fan of those? Vh1 CELEB- reality shows. I would say that I in college watched some of them in sort of a college hayes so I like them but I usually like the ones we'll but people did win this one as reality shows that usually like when people win and lose his head. I mean technically yes. There was a winner but that being said no one except for the audience really won the shows. Everyone's lost I was. I was not an avid watcher. But I did watch and enjoy so that being said I figured out what we could do. Is You know if Liana wants to put on her viking hat once more after her hayes from yesterday and see if we can assign some of flavor of love esque nicknames. Some of the people from this caste for people who don't know flavor Flav for some reason. Maybe it's because he just doesn't remember people's names would lines up. All the girls at the beginning of every flavor of love season talks them for like thirty seconds and then comes up with a nickname just based on whatever might be on where they're from and might be how they look in a random fact about them. Liana. Do you have any Favorite flavor of love nicknames. Over the years ooh okay. That's good so po. Pumpkin not pumpkin. Pumpkin Which again. I don't know exactly why she was called Pumpkin. But that's a pretty good one Let's see so classically you know the woman who is from Georgia is called Georgia. But I think what really stands out? Is that usually there's Z. At the end and Kinda got weirder as the seasons went along. I'm looking at some right now that I really love. I love the season. Two toasty with threes. At the end of that season was my favorite. I think it's spelled pay. I Y Shins as age. I N T Z. There's also is really weird nickname but E. I. E. Y. Apostrophes Z. At the end I also love. I think my favorite though overall it's a simple one might be tree ceases three. There's just a really tall woman who came on that flav dictator tree. It's so good so that being said I would love for us to sort of have our creative juices flow and see if there are any nicknames. We can use to come up with some of these people all under name here. I and he's sort of been top of mind. Hopefully this'll be easy. Do we have a nickname for Tony that we can assign from flavor of Love House? Cue Ball Yeah but it's got to be like Q. Hyphen Mall this episode specific. It's like extortion. But spelled with an axe like torsion. You know yeah or let's see I'm sure there was someone called chains with Z. As I don't know that feels the COP thing change changes that's like Dean from last season. Let's see because usually it's based on like some some like physical attribute I would say is like most of the time because also on I love New York which is a successor is supposed to flavor of love. She also names all of her contestants New York and so they get the you know. Like twelve pack Or like white boy or Mr Boston. Those sort of classic names of I think my favorite was pootie. Dude or Gee we'd there were a lot of t's there was like T. We t-boned team money. I remember there was one guy who is I remember was known for being very well. Hung and his nickname was a wolf. Are Wolf's famously Hong. I met many wolves to know. Great Lake Wasn't like I dunno like Horace. Don't make those. I think the worst thing is that these people try to build like entertainment careers off this like thankfully like frank the entertainer but imagine being like. I'm Greg Wolf Harris. And please give me your cameo money all right. Let's move on here. How about Ben? What's a good thing nickname for Ben Well the first second someone is cowboy. Because that's kind of like. Would it be spelled like the contestant from survivor Cook Islands with the I? Yeah we're about like a bomb. Yeah it could be bomb. He was heroes. Hustler was he. A Hustler was a hero. He was a hero. That doesn't work like UH slurs. Somehow it'd be a great name Ben. Yeah it could be. It also could be like just straight up like Ben bomb. I could see now at Namm. Yeah Grudge. He always says he could be like grudge. Ya and that's a very fitting for Ben. Okay what about what about Sarah Lassina? Should it be like? I don't know like seem or skirt or like about fashion. She's so our so famously. A criminal I mean that was her winning season. So how about how about sneak but like a? Oh Yeah you need the double E. I was also thinking like stripes is with a Z. Right so she's a criminal so you know. She's got our stripes designer now. Oh and she's a designer so it's like a dual meaning because we all know these nicknames. Were so creative. Especially when flavor flav named the twins thing one thing to uniform she can be sneaking stripes or stripes and Snake Tomac name. Yeah Yeah how about Denise what do you think? Denise? It'd be like shorty or something. Yeah you're right or if there's already a shortage shortly to like very uncreative. I like shortly to Maybe she'd be like pint-size or something or no shortage. Ooh The lion. I like that a lot. I was GONNA ask if if flavored you would take advantage of her being a sex therapist and do something I like I like to. I'm just having now. This mental image of Jeff probes colleague on people at Tribal Council calling them by their nicknames was one world with Troy Zan and Tarzan battle. That really did feel like a flavor of little. Bit of drama there too. And it's like I can't believe it he's Tarzan. I'm troy. That bitch stole my nickname. Like one of the first episodes. Oh my God it was so funny and then when when he votes are like when somebody gets voted out. Be Like you know like I'm sorry your time is up and then otherwise you get a clock. That's like you know what time it is. What do you think it would be? Would it be like you did a torch instead? Yeah I guess you would get your tour. Yeah you get your torch and we'll be like shoot. What would be his catchphrase? That is like my like your your. Your life is still burning in the game or something Yeah he's we used to make sure the tribe has spoken is good but it feels almost like more of Jeff conferring this like thing upon you so it's like you're fires burnt out or like your fires still burning or something like that. What about Michelle Fitzgerald? Who might find herself up? One of these dating shows nowadays. What do you think her nickname would be parallel? Let's see what is I mean? Mccown it mechanic. Michelle is iconic. Because she's such a queen so she could just be like Yaas Queen. Jeff probst being like Yaas Queen. How'd you feel about that? I saw you roll your eyes your screen so you roll your eyes. When sneaky strives to said she wanted to vote you out just to confirm grudge. You're playing this idol on Yasser Queen. Yep that's gotta be. Her name is yes when doll. She's definitely yes queen plane. What do we think all right so I'm going to put one? I mean Nick is going to be an interesting one. Right like you could go with Dracula. Yeah Nikola what about like whisper? Because he's always so like just POPs up. What the wind did Sandra say to him at the beginning like you're the newest winner so everyone thinks you're sneaky. Yeah he's sneak to snow sneaky stripes and Sydney key to even get like another sticky to. He's sneaky vampire. I like vampire though but it'd be like but be spelled horribly wrong lake. Let's see Vam No I can't even do it like yeah. No It'd be like V. H. M. Yeah. Why are wise? And they're yeah p. y. r. e. or something like that. Yeah that's good. Do we think that she would nickname Boston. Rob Boston Rob would he be that? Unoriginal? It'd be Boston. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Oh for sure because like sometimes you get like that one person. It's just like they can't think of anything to describe them by so it's like very obvious so Boston rob would obviously at something Boston themed. What about Adam? Client CLIMATE SOLICIT RATIOS. Shorty Watch shot. Saudi want shorting to. I can't remember who I think you'll would be numbers but with my bs three CS professor with busy in there. Somehow the E is a three. Because it's gotta be numbers like the upside down all right. I'll come up with one. Final one here Natalie. Anderson what's Natalie Anderson's flav nickname or? She's a twin. Yeah she's one of. She's winning thing. She could be twenty. Which yeah I totally sear being twenty. But like she's just by herself like she's just twenty like there's no on this season at least other number. There's no number right. Yeah Okay Yeah I think that makes sense now. I don't understand why they're not targeting. Sarah and nick sooner clearly there. Because they're sneaky stripes and sneaky vampire only God yes. They are a pair. Yes that totally makes sense. How high is really cracked? The code here also. I feel like we've really need to institute nicknames on every single show from here on out like I don't care what it is American idol top chef. The voice. Like give me like name. I mean I would like to say like depending on the guest that we have on like we should institute shorthand for everybody week after week. When we're like you know let's talk about the move. That grudge made and whether queen saw has a chance to the end does institute our very own language for everybody. These these are the names. We now decide to call them. Well if if you all out there have any nicknames. I'm sure please send them our way. We are super receptive to them and speaking of submissions. Let's finish off this week on the BNB with how we in every week on the question of the Week. Of course the segment where we send out a question out into the survivor ethos when we get back a bunch of lovely and fund responses from the fans at large last week's question the week when we thought that. Tony had his maximum airtime for the season and talk about being fast and sloppy or than slow and patient. Used to worse to describe any survivor of your choice. And you know we've varied a bit in terms of the number but we stayed in a roundabout range. Let's start with John. John Three words to describe Russell Hands. Terrible Jury Management John. John that's going to get you blocked by Russell. Hands I think yeah. Did you see the thing on twitter with somebody got blocked? And then they lay tweeted out the the people that got more jury votes than Russell. Hands like survivor quotes X. Account where they post a really great account for any survivor fan to follow where they give out a bunch of different quotes from survivor periodically because they got blocked by Russell heads. They proceeded to post every single person. That has more jury votes than Russell. Hansen there ever career like fifty three people. It's amazing I love that Tomas says because Chris Underwood one after coming back from the edge of extinction this describing came in two words as edge Lord Count. The Edge Lord. Yeah let's take one of those. I don't think that means what you think. Danske says two words to describe Rodney three CS or after Tony. Apparently it's cool calm and quiet season A. Q. Or is just quiet. That could also be a nickname. It's quiet but with a C. C. Essay W I remember that's knicks like underhanded. Dick Dave see once they get rid of sneaky vampire. Parker Schindler says Thai Chicken Man. Shane crazy. Uncle ream ream daily and Joe Main. A- A- Tony. I love how I know. That ream dailies name is rimmed daily but also redeeming daily is also rim daily. Never thought I'd say the only name that's also a recommendation rule number one or whatever. It was ream daily. Alright Logan says Nora Salman is healthy and exciting or so much I mean personally. I would've preferred zesty thrown in there because I was personally one of my favorites from when she describes herself If we ever talked about this on the podcast by Leon. I don't know if you've listened to his deep dive Do you know the origin behind that. Finale that confessionals. She had in the finale where she described herself. Because it was your soup question right. It was apparently she said in confessional like I remember this guy asked me preseason about what by was and I described like I'm healthy and lively zesty and they sort of cut out the part where I ask a stupid question. And that's what made the episode by. That's amazing I've never been more proud like this. Parents must feel like when their child Bach. I don't know my my child is soon to walk. So I'll see if it compares to my soup question like sort of offhandedly getting referenced on a survivor Finales. Okay sorry zesty also. It'd be a great nickname if I would be hers and finally the Great Jacobs Weinstein. My two words are for Adam Klein willing to try anything and clever enough to use dashes to get around the two word restriction and yes those were all in dashes smart stay. Listen you've got to push the rules. Push the word count for next week so we saw this extortion advantage so something that we came up with for questioned the week. I want us all to put on our producer hats. Come up with an advantage around something. Illegal like -cribe like the mugging advantage or the embezzlement advantage. Because I'm still so mystified by this idea that I would love to see what other illegal activities code to see. Something are going to be able to show up on survivor reasonably speaking. The door has been blown open now. Guys like crime is apparently legal in Fiji on the survivor islands. As we now know and now WanNa see this taken to the Max I love the international waters that apparently Fiji as and when it comes to extortion Fiji going to have to put out some key essay. Afterthefact talk it's okay to travel to Fiji not be mugged. You will not be dealing with like embezzlement or extortion. We promised I I too. I remember when I was in college a totally random story but I do remember that one of the leaders of like our study abroad program always had this first session to introduce the study abroad program to students but she always treated it like it was like a scared straight program and she was infamously known for like every four sentences or so just emphasizes that we would be robbed like if you go to. This country robbed go to Europe. Robbed Australia robbed. That's what your civic yourself to this is why I she. I guess she wanted to make sure we were there for the right reasons to get robbed. Yeah STRAIGHT TO JAIL. Exactly just putting just turned away as soon as you get off the plane because it's pretty much gone anyway. We'll come up with the hashtag robbed advantage and a bunch of other stuff next week. Send us all your advantage. Ideas that deal with illegalities. You can always email them to us. Rha P. A. B. N. A. B. gmail.com use HASHTAG RHA on social media super excited for next week guests so it's super criminal to lose Sophie. Here I really do feel like she was playing a fantastic game truly a fallen angel next week. I'm very excited to welcome our most recent fallen Angel in survivor. The fourth place finisher from survivor island of the idols. Lauren Beck is going to be joining us next week to repack episode twelve super excited for Lawrence. She's a great personality. She's actually hosting her own Youtube series. That recaps island of the idols. This welcome back a bunch of survivor alumni as well. So I'm sure she has a lot of autumn AC- if there were any more uncut soup confessionals that hit the cutting room floor. Can't wait to hear it so excited for now. Aaron thank you so much for coming on you. Leave these of being be with forty. Plus thousand fire tokens a bunch of nicknames. And hopefully some stuff to take back to your grandmother and then some of our people who want to follow what you may be talking out there on the Internet. How can people follow you on social media and and give us some details about your about your new book about the astonishing life of August marked for People? Who might be interested in it? Yeah my my book is a comedic coming of age novel about a boy who was born and raised in New York. City Theater is published by Harper in early April. We had fun quarantine publishing but it's better. Everything's been going great. It's but it's a fun. Read for these times where you're doing nothing at home anyway. Might as well read. It's Breezy Little Fun Book. And then you can follow me on twitter. I'm Aaron Jackson. Eight five and on instagram garbage. Troll Ga all surprised that was. That was good now right okay. You've broken Mike. Go on this how much. I didn't realize that was just Garvey. All right well. I'm very excited to make sure you check out this novel guys. I've read a little bit and I have especially as a big feeder fed. I have very much enjoyed it. I believe it's available. Also in audiobook format is that right is that is correct. Yes Liana what do you have going on in the past week in podcast land? Okay so first of all before I give my plugs. I I have a request to ask of the listeners. So if you're still listening and if you have a twitter please at tweet at br no at Cohen Brian Underscore. That is Brian. Cohen Co host of the challenge. Podcast he and I are currently feuding and I would appreciate if you tweeted at him to please say that the BNB rules please spell it with a z. So how shock RHA P BNB rules. Which should we give a nickname to Brian? As well as they can use refer to him. Yes we should give him a nickname. Okay what would Brian's nickname let's see so he is a co host. The challenge wrap up. I don't know if that helps inform anything we could call him bonkers. That's where they're currently living this out. Since he loves Johnny Bananas You can call him like plan. Tain or itty-bitty Bananas Okay. Nickname not required. Just tweet tweet at Cohen Brian Underscore. Okay it's Brian. Cowen twitter and just tell them that the BNB rules okay. All that's my request. Even if like five of you do you have made my day so Other than that you can find me on twitter at Liana R. H. A. I am podcasting about the massacre with his and Vakili and we also took a little bit about flavor of love so this is me I think pushing to get him to watch it and then next week we'll probably have a little bit of our thoughts on it but anyway we also talked about the massing I think at some point and also drag race so brought welcome. Altamont adamant and you're talking about routes Paul's drag race and talks about the political episode this week so that should be up soon and look for that in your feet. Follow me at a Mike Bloom type. As I mentioned I did. My alumni interviewed this week spoke with Albert destroyed from survivor South Pacific about Sophie's game. I really really highly encouraging. Albert had a lot of really great about his thoughts on Sophie's game. How she did her second time around. How did you first time around? And the whole perception of the lower cheered winner stuff so check that out. Parade Dot com slash tag slash survivor. 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Tea was not in the male prison that archie found himself had a pickup football game. Man Talk about all the nicknames they can have their. Yeah what what. He met mad dogs. That's really one big one. She'd be take out her teeth for him. So if you have game suggestions are like the Great Robbie Biz did with the Tony. Tony quotes game. Absolutely send them our way. We are dame for Dame's of emailed in Tunis Rha P. B. NBA. Or if you have a small idea you can tweet them to us as well. We have our antennas up everywhere to pick up anything everything. I cannot believe. We're only a few weeks removed or approaching the end of this seat and this is coming very quickly down the line Like a fast hurdling trade but considering what just happened I cannot wait to see where we're going from here special. Thanks to Scott saint-pierre for editing all this behind the scenes or head writer Paul. Also send Wolfram America for his fantastic theme song. Aaron Jackson thank you so much again. 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The Masked Singer | Season 3 Episode 6 RHAPup

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The Masked Singer | Season 3 Episode 6 RHAPup

"Hello and welcome back to. The mass singer happens podcast. We are here to talk about Groupie. The finale we now know who the three from this group going into super nine are and next week we will be talking all group C in. That should be an exciting time but for today we're going to talk about the ridiculous stuff that went down with the final four the championships of the Groupie. I'm your host polio. The grilled cheese in Vakili and as always not alone here always got a partner in crime ready to break down some nonsense ready to fan boy about some people and be ops with others. We have Liana the bag at Boris. Leon how are you doing today? Who Am I fan? Burling over T. Pain TV. Oh my God oh my God. I'm so excited I love. T t pain was amazing in this episode to. I'm starting to put together. What would be currently consists of Jamie Fox and t pain and two others to be determined. I Think Tea Banh was the best guest judge for me. Oh my gosh. T pain was amazing. Also by the way before we get into everything which we absolutely have to the stuffed animal. That t pain was holding at the beginning. I also have that stuffed animal of t pain. There is a woman she is love and a sandwich is her handle named. She's on instagram. She makes all of these policies for I mean. Mostly just like other creatures monsters monsters but she has. She made the monster one. Which is a custom made monster that they had on the TV show the Massingir. It was so cool. I looked back at my little monster that sits in my bed because he has a Weirdo. Your TV buddy. It was so cool. I'm so mad that they didn't shout her out so love and a Sandwich. Go check on her work. It's really cool. She's awesome ships super-quick all around amazing. Oh my gosh t pay. Wow Yeah I noticed that too and I found it a little funny that they're trying to push this shop on us. But then they outsource their plus. She needs to the person on instagram. Who I've seen her work. It's incredible how much Details put into these things. But no to all of you. Massino folk setup the plus. She's in the shop. It is not that hard and it would go for a lot. Yeah exactly and even if okay so you could take the design from her and try to mass produce them or direct to her shop if you're gonNA have her creation on the show put it in your frigging shop. Just a link. That's all you have to do. Oh a link to her instagram linked to her anyway. She's amazing and deserves all the credit in the world. Yes he does. And if you could put it on your twitter at some point while saw that people can find it. Okay so groupie championships. We're going to go down from four to three championships. We were not so happy with the results but the show opens up with. We get a little bit of a fun relocate what the performers are doing leading up to the show there's people lined up at a Taco truck with Taco there. The FROG is leaving Bouquets of flowers behind Jenny Nicole's trailer doors the keys getting groomed and then being fed milken saucer by the secret service members which was odd but then the bananas having like a soul high trip in his trailer just raging on on his own which is very odd brand for the banana but those are the people that we are going to be dealing with. How did this opening sequence hype? You up okay. A few things first of all did pause the banana partying and his trailer to look for Drug Paraphernalia. Yes I did. I did not see any however I did see some bananas on the sink. I don't know what that me and also the frog was clearly. Bribing the judges with flowers. So I don't know I think somebody needs to look into that because there could be some shady business going on using the frog is buying votes from the panel. Yeah I think so with flowers. It was clearly dropping flowers off for Jenny and Nicole. Sure that was the one. Yeah yes so without any further ado nick. Cannon comes out in his all white ensemble with this dazzled. Cape and his obnoxiously bedazzled shoes which he said had the drip later. I sincerely disagree but you know to each their own. Okay maybe you can explain. I don't remember Phil Tease rap appearance super well but I thought to have the drip means you have covered in diamonds right. No you're styling your styling. He's Thailand. I disagree I don't think it style. Oh you don't they get style and you know those are worth two million dollars doesn't matter you can throw you dress up a half. The things I wanNA say are like expletives you can okay. What's the CEO? You can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig so but it would mean that would be the next character for the massing. The lipstick pig the lipstick pig. Oh my God you know what Super Cute teacup pigs. And there's have you ever seen a teacup pig adorable? They are but if you make an enlarged version of it like you know what's it called the villains in the power rangers expanding into big humans like I don't think the teacup pig will look as nice as a teacup pig. Looks the size matters in that context. Well size doesn't matter does. Do you think that the teacup pig is cute because it is just small in size or do you think that it's the ratio of its features? That make it cute because you know how babies and kids have really big eyes and really big heads because the way that our bodies grow we grow disproportionately so different parts of our body growth bigger than others as we grow up. Anyway and part of that is then. That's why that's why like kittens are cute. Because they've really big eyes and like all little things are supposed to be cute because you need biological. You need to be able to take care of them. Evolution Z like. Oh I need to take care of this. Little thing yells at me all the time and just eats poops and does nothing else that needs to be a reason why you love it because it has big is. Oh maybe that's my monster so cute. It's got one big. I was this question initially and then it became like your stand up comedy routine. You asked me something in the middle there all my gosh speaking of stand up comedy routines so you know the Song American Pie by Don McLean. No you don't Oh my gosh. It's goes by Miss American Pie drove the Chevy to the levy but the levy was dry up wolf. I don't need to like Ward Keys. It or what's the rhythm I need to catch? The this is bad. Can you cut this short? Okay Okay Bye. Miss America gives okay so that song. Okay so everybody talks about how long that song is. Like ha ha. That's always really long. Never do it as Karaoke. It should be banned from all karaoke bars. I was listening to Oldies Today. Based actually off of the songs that we're going to talk about later and that's on came up so I was listening to all these station. It was like Elvis the Beatles. Okay fine we're doing well then not song pops up. It is so fricking long but it is no joke. I don't know but it's really really long. I left the room to go. Do other stuff came back and it's still going on. It should be ban. Don McLean right. Asong now long. They should have fired okay. So if you do like the song why it's fun for the first like two minutes or maybe that's your personal like you like songs that are shorter but then there are long songs and like if you like a song. Why does the length matter? Well length doesn't matter. We hold on. Why do you keep saying? I don't know what you're talking about. It's really long eight minutes and thirty. Two seconds yeah well that does sound exhausting so we don't have it in Karaoke. You don't ban the song it should be. Why the Weird Al version can stay on. This is completely. We're not we haven't even talked about anything I feel like. That's I need to get to the bottom of this. You're you have problems with lengthy songs I just not song in particular is very long. Okay well to answer the question you said before you offset into this big big speech about songs and stand up which. I don't know how you segue stand up into this. But the teacup pig is cute because of its size being small and because of the proportions of the ratios of the body parts of the therefore having both of those be bigger I think would take away from the appeal of a teacup pig as a performer. And then yes nick. Cannon doesn't just cause issues are expensive doesn't mean that's silent okay. Sounds good but you just you agree. I'm trying to tweet still I got sidetracked by complaining about Don McLean. How okay okay. Well I will keep going then so okay. The Monster is revealed. Obviously okay so we need to stop yelling. Take it off when there's no mask I mean last time I was okay is hiding behind the mask. He was hiding behind a plush and we saw that it was going to be him before we saw him without the plush so again they need to figure that out. That's a flaw in their editing. And The plus she we've talked about at length is a third party. That is great and we will be. Leon literally spent fifteen minutes trying to tweet this out so I know people are going to see it. That's great and then they all the performers get together because the theme of this episode is friendship and B F F ing and all four performers onstage and do rendition of larger than life by the backstreet boys. How did you feel about this keeping in mind that I know exactly how you felt about the last one? How did you feel about this performance? I really liked this group performance. I thought that it was fun to see group performance again and I love the song larger than life by the backstreet boys and everybody actually got to so. I think that that was that was a plus. Oh and we got all the clues clues the tacos clue the only one that I think made sense especially given the fact that it's Tom Bergeron. I've enjoyed a lot of salsas dancing with the stars. Not exactly sure what's more inspiring than doing laundry and what that has to do. Maybe one everything else is more inspiring than doing laundry. It's weird that it was what's more inspiring than doing laundry. Not just like what's better than doing laundry. What's more inspiring than doing laundry? Yes I don't know but there's there's something to it I don't know what it is. Could it be like laundry list of things? And then we go into bucket list. Could this be someone who is known for being an adventure and does things that aren't people's bucket lists or you know something of that sort? What does that have to do laundry? 'cause laundries in buckets no because it's a laundry list of things a laundry list inspiring in doing your laundry list of bucket list things. Yeah I mean it's a stretch but to be fair. The massacre is pulled worse. So you're going to be right. Yeah and the KITTIES clues. I'm here to seal the deal. I think this is should be unseal. Now how does that connect? I'm not sure but I. We gotta start thinking of seals like circle who to seal know. Who's he'll brush. Who's done a collaborative seal? I think seal has a big part in this one using actual like actual seal. It's gotta be because there's no like other seal that we know of here. There's a okay. So the presidential seal. There's a seal of approval Seal the animal. But maybe like what? If it's like let's make a deal go to actually doesn't have anything to do with seal about making a deal. I don't I don't I focused on seal. I thought it was odd to seal. I think it's let's make a deal and this is also Wayne Brady know as much as I love. Kitty and I'm rooting for Kitty. Kitty is not Wayne Brady. None of the clues add up to Wayne Brady and these clues actually through confused me more and I feel like this is the first time ever for me where a person could be eighteen different people. So we'll get there when we get there but katy's odd one then. Frogs have opened the door for bigger artists. Which for me makes sense given that. I believe it's bow out so I was a young. He was here and there. Around the big artists work during his infancy and then he became bigger and he still played that role. So that makes sense for the frog. Yes okay so as we said we're GONNA be talking about this week. It's all about the best friends and ACLU packages are going to be explained to us from the singer's closest friends and with no further ado we jumped into the kitties clue package. They on so many questions for you but I almost want to save it and just let you start talking about this. And then we'll just hit them as we go along. So what okay? First of all I just hit S- tweets on my tweet so now that's done so now I can focus on her friend. Who was yes. Go on okay. Who was her? Bff WHO WAS? I loved the COF- cousin it comparison. I thought he kind of very good spin on. This could be based on the way. He saw the clues. Actually watching t pay and put the clues together was so fun. It was like watching. Somebody have that uplift any that? Aha moment in real time as he was putting everything together. I can't say whether or not he's correct. I also there were a lot of other parts to this the Faberge Egg. I don't know what that had to do anything. Weird focus on the Christmas lights. No idea what to make of this. They seem so random. I don't know if they're red herrings or if they are actually clues there's a lot of different ways you can take. Her Aclu than go with them was a forest. There was also a focus on candles. Which made me feel like beauty and the beast was involved. Somehow is a couldn't link anything else so the candles in my head and then the ghost thing that team put together was a thing that was mentioned the Faberge Egg. There's honesty. There's so many different ways this could go so. I am not sure at all where this is going to go. But yes so this. Green rapunzel looking person is the friend and they talk about how the Kitty didn't have a ton of friends and was bullied for being weird and then at the end the Kinda talk about how one day in class. She said she can see ghosts and freaked. Everyone on got tension so I wanna I really don't I have no idea who the kitty could be? I still think that you know if we go through the okay. So here's the movies that we can go through to figure out it could be someone in one of these movies or shows handmaid's Tale Little Red Riding Hood a forest so like hey potter could be one. Maybe beauty and the beast could be one maybe into the woods like. There's so many like foresty. Would movies Georgia the jungle? I don't know look through all these movies and come up with your list of eighteen. Could be one of do you think? The directing horror movies was just Oh. She made horror movies when she was a Kid. Or do you think that she actually now is a director as an adult see. I don't know because they stay specified as kids so I don't know if that means when they were children or at the start of career like they kind of both got into the acting scene by doing that and then ended up in bigger things. I'm not sure I'm not sure either. And I I don't know if the Christina Ricci us is right but it definitely fits with all the clues props to t pain for that. Yeah it does. I would have never even seen that or thought of that. So spot on. So then we get into the performance and it's a rendition of Mama's broken heart by Miranda Lambert. How did you feel about this? I love this song so much so I heard it from the first couple notes and I will say that it was a good performance. I don't think it was the best. The kitties done so far. And I think because I really really know that song and I know how Miranda Lambert performs that song and I'm super partial to her because Miranda Lambert has such fine control over the way that she shakes her words when she sings she is not known for being this big ballad strongest voice but she is such unique sound. She's so good she's such a good writer. I Love Miranda Lambert anyway so it was a little disappointing. But it's the backup dancers that look like the skunks. I guess and then you had the BANDANNA wearing others. That was very bizarre. Also the cat's mouth is always open. Has It always been that way? Yeah Okay for some reason. In this song it looked weird. So how did you see skunks? When they're clearly cats wearing top hats. I saw skunks okay. I'm just telling you what I see. Okay look I don't make the news. I just report okay. And that's what I saw. Well I thought that the Kitty has good style. I DID ENJOY THE OLD TIMEY. Saloon background motif thing. Going on the cats did top hats and the backup dancers were indeed sexy again so that was very odd to digest and the two cowboy vigilante dancers were like wearing pink cowboy hats bandannas boots and then. But how did they cow print chaps? Which I wasn't particularly fond of but not a fan of chats or not a fan of print print mostly. It just didn't with everything else being pink. So Yeah No. That was a qualm but otherwise it was. It was fine. It was a good opener to the show. The audience seemed to like it and again the Kitty has good presence. Good performance and this was I agree. Not My favorite of the three performance. We've seen but this was one that made me feel that the Katie's spot in the final super ninth safe. What did you think about? I think it was Nicole who said. Oh we'll definitely see you in the final nine. Yeah I am. There's another part that I'm going to talk about the the way we're getting to these votes of like leading the audience into feeling a certain way or deciding a certain way. I don't quite enjoy that. I think the judges have seen all of the performances so maybe if a performer has a weaker week than that can. Maybe help boost the performer. A little bit but yeah I had the exact same like shut up. Make their own decision. But actually I got a very detailed description from someone who is in the audience of this particular filming and said that it was very hard to hear. The best vocal performance may not always be rewarded since nobody really sounds that great from the audience also. It may have been two hours from when you heard the first performance devoting so the razzle dazzle aspect is. What really sticks out in people's heads so now is particularly interesting and so I wonder how the judging would also influence and Yeah so that was very interesting. Marry members some a wise person once there on this podcast that they're here for the razzle dazzle got laughed at so she's very good to know that that's what matters more that's what matters to the audience in a room. Yeah they're the ones voting the winners determined by the razzle-dazzle. Yeah well apparently. That's the way that it happens to be in this particular circumstance. That doesn't mean it's fair. Well Amass Dancer. Aren't they doing the masks dancer? I don't WanNa talk about that show. Okay but I mean again. We can't rehash this but it's an all the massing I get it I get it. Look I agree. And we've tied with arousal basil so no need to relitigate. Yes so I went. Okay so then this. What's it called so this episode? They had friendship bracelets to give to the panel which is similar to I wanted to. It was Valentine's Day cards that they had before that we've seen happen so this happened. And the Kitty gave a friendship bracelet to Robin Thicke and it said fireworks on it outside of Katy Perry because we both Katy Perry. That'd be insane. This clue help you any nope because the first time we met it was lit apparently when Robin and the Kitty met. I have no idea what that means. There's so many different interpretations it could mean. Something was on fire. Perhaps they were in a building that was on fire together. They could have been at a party drinking and it was let you really have no idea to open to can read whatever you want into it. I mean to. Let's think about what todd the Tacos was which was kiss and it ended up being that he she did a perfect ten score dance on the show to a kiss song so following that logic fireworks was it at a new. Was it like at a like New Year's rocking eve types show where it was right on New Year's eve and before the fireworks happened. Oh that's not bad. Yeah so like could that be thing so that may be like? We look into appearances there and see if that's something we find or is it a situation where there were out of. Katy Perry concert together or I don't know we'll see I don't see why we're discounting my burning building theory. That's dark we'll give it. They both live clearly. The only two survivors morbid. You thought of that. Did I say that anybody died? I just building was on fire which I get now. I hear myself say this but still I didn't say anybody died. You didn't but my connotations that come with burning buildings and they're not positive ones so no one says that though my God gang. This building is lit no seriously. It's on fire. Let's leave like that doesn't have dude. We had a fire in our building was like two days ago. Yeah it was literally. The building was lit literally. Yeah Okay but speaking of being a morbid and sad. The large out of tens head. Can we talk about that? Yeah sure okay. It was garf- was terrifying. Why was it so big? Why did it need to be so big? And why did it only come out? Once I felt like then you have to have ones of other ones. Why did this exist so many questions? I think it's appropriate. That only his head was made. I think you know as much as we bag on him. He is the only one of the judges that has enough stupid. One liners that you could mock him with and be would be funny to do and see would probably have the best reaction to make being made fun of so. I think that was good. We did see it a couple times And I thought Jenny did a good job with it. I think Robin could have done well with it to Jenny. Seems like the only person who was controlling the Ken had can head. Yeah that's a phrase. I really wish I'd never heard could be worse. So as far as the judges guesses when we had a guest by Jenny McCarthy and we found out that the kitty is flattered at the that she's been getting which makes me think the kiddy might not be like a top tier Celeb- like I could see this being on the Rumer Willis level of celebrity. Yeah I could see that too. I also like to really listen to those little confessionals because I think that they're filmed or at least what I would guess is sort of right after they perform and so. I think that you are truly getting what the performer is thinking. And so you can kind of read into what they're my their head spaces and how they're feeling and how they're thinking and to your point it's probably somebody who's not a superstar because otherwise why would you say something like that. We're not a professional singer. At least yeah at the very least a Haley Christina Ricci guess like them I would say this is a lower to your celeb- whoever it is they've got a good shot of winning this thing so you get someone who's younger too because I think that if you look up to people like Haley Duff than that is such a huge compliment to be compared to her. That's true I do think however the kid is skewing younger like Glue Twenty four and under is my guess. I think anybody in their twenty S. I could see okay. Well find out in about a month when we dive into the super nine. Jesus yeah but for now we can roll this up and move onto the next Tortilla and as the TACO and the tacos friend. That's going to spill the beans a famous friend. We find out later that this was bob sagging. Now why would clams be Bob side? I thought it was an entire seafood. Platter that's what it looked like. It was a three tiered seafood with dry ice on it so it looked like it was smoking and then you had him drinking fake whiskey from a glass that didn't have liquid in it like it was clearly a mold and just plastic because when he tried to tilt it at the end. The liquid did not move. Yeah yeah this is a very weird segment I mean. I know. I was an advocate for the plant person who was on the WHO was the friend of the kangaroo. I believe that this was just weird like this. Oh this is weird. The plant was fine with his hair. Cly living thing. Well the the seafood. That's in the platter was living nominee any more. Well Yeah but oh it has to be currently living so you were gay so we have to Yup Yup Yup Yup. We're going to rank the four friends. Okay from least weird too weird. Okay so you can remember the forefront. Oh you mean from this episode. Yeah from this items. Are you kidding me. Something that happened weeks ago. I can barely remember what I complained about at the beginning of the episode. Don McLean. Yeah okay so we have green rapunzel. We have seafood platter. We have. Who is the banana friends? Oh you remember these things just banana not have a friend nor the banana. Lovely Lady Bananas. Yes the two kid bananas and then the woman the invisible woman from the frog. Yes okay what are your ranking. So I'm going to go from worst to best because I think there's a clear. Worst and worst is the clam per cent and then seafood platter. It's not a clam person okay. The seafood player the soup. Is Your Platter Seafood? That's the worst then. I think it's the two banana people and then I think it's Green Rapunzel. Actually thought invisible woman was pretty fun. I thought invisible also pretty normal. She's my least weird for sure. I would have to go invisible woman banana. Kids I can't believe is a phrase just said the IT Green Rapunzel lady and then yes. I agree with you. The talk that seafood platter was the worst. It was not the worst. It was the weirdest who makes that active choice. That was a creative decision that was made and nothing was made. Why couldn't it be like 'cause I mean Lincoln to the Taco? Why is a seafood platter next to the their shrimp like I feel like there's so many other things I go to a Taco before I would seafood? What does yeah? Okay but what does it plan have to do with Kangaroos? I guess you can't eat plants the herbivores. Yeah Okay but what does shop sagging have to do with seafood platters Let's see there were shrimp. There were clams there was whistling. He his name is Bob Belly of not. I can't tell you all I know is it was. It was not choice. Yeah it was definitely an odd choice. That was that was the weirdest the weirdest the ones who've seen so far and I don't even remember the ones from the previous week's there were some weird ones. They're okay but I also don't remember them enough to be able to cite them outside of the plant person. Okay well here. How about this? The true test will be if in three weeks when we're getting to meet the next group of whatever's friends if we can still remember the weird seafood platter then we know that it was definitely the weirdest one sister turtles like a shelf of books you know it was off books dude. Jordan level bookshelf and like there were like. It was a teacher's table and there was an award and like a Scorpion thing on it. I remember that one day you know what okay all right I look at the White Tiger was the weird stripper dartboard guy. That was pretty weird. Yeah okay in comparison. This week's episodes were not nearly as weird as threes. Were better but Dr Board. No because didn't they go to the bar and then they did the stripper dance. Yeah but the guy was dartboard. Yes the bartender. Bartending dartboard. Yeah and they did their magic micro Tean Tobar question for you. Where do you know where the Dartboard went to school dartmouth? Yeah okay. Oh Ms Monster was the hairstylist. Just normal the turtles was Miss S. It was books wasn't my talent is books bugs all right okay all right all right so yeah so. Let's see just real quick to talk about the I. My whole notes has clamp plotters. So I'M GONNA change it to seafood in my head and move on all washboard. And then they talked about how the talk was all about the laugh and we both people when they get knocked down. Which honestly that's a big trope in America's funniest home videos was mostly people falling. So that makes sense are. They called their children little shrimps which I thought was I understand the saying but then you're like a seafood platter so it was odd. They talked about entertaining America again. We go back. This was America's funniest home videos clue all over now on talk about the performance because so the scene opens and have a bone to pick with you on this on why. Why is the focal point of the Tacos? Dancing background tomatoes. Why is it tomatoes? Why is it not tomatoes because tomato is not the focal point of the TACO TACO is a focal point of the TACO? And I feel like this false narrative put into this show by making us try and believe that the tomatoes belong there as a staple of the Taco because of the tomato head and it is not true and I will not stand for this normal. I sit for this. Do you not put tomatoes in your tacos. I it's not like it's like saying Oh boilers technically salt. On like your meats. That doesn't that's still not like you. Don't count back. Tomatoes like a small tomato is like if a movie had eight leading actors and actresses and then Jamie Kennedy plays like the Valet for three minutes. It's there but it is it important. Okay now we're going to go through and we're GONNA rank all of the things that go in tacos and what celebrity they would be compared to. So you're saying the lead is the shell or the meat vegetarian the beans. I think the show the shelves like without the Shell. You got nothing to know. Vehicle for the innards. Yeah but you would you have against salsa assaults on down. This was tomato Salsa Avocado Guacamole as Avocado. What I'm saying is that if it was a salsa background but like totally makes sense but like tomatoes not even a main player tomatoes in the arena watching everyone else play as a bystander. Do you not like tomatoes would ever do to you nothing. I just think it's a little insane that the tomato plays such a big role the Taco when I know in my heart of hearts that it really doesn't who yeah I love you and I'm here for you and if you ever want to open up about your traumatic tomato experience you're more than willing to share to me. There's Notre I'm so so I feel sorry for you. Don't pity me. I love tomatoes Blasio. I'm not going to back down. I think it's ridiculous so we can move on because now. I'm just getting ridiculed shit we have to. The dancer is the show wrestling inflatable shafts. Yeah the fat suit chef dancers who like were inflated but then a points there were deflated and then replayed it. Where can I find this costume? I WanNa go is this for. Halloween really inflamed chef. Why because it's so weird. This is so weird. Why did they have to be inflated? I know that you're taking umbrage with the tomatoes in the background. But my God I think you really have to take umbrage with Y. The chefs had to be inflated. Why is in one of the things they say? Or I don't know who says but I feel like I've read or heard or seen somewhere like if a chef heavyset. Then you know. They're making the food with love. So maybe they wanted us to love the TACO and was subliminal messaging the phrases. Never trust a thin shafir skinny chef or something like that seems like an awful saying. I'm not saying I mean you said don't wait. What was it? You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig. Yeah that's I believe. That's the saying you can put on tomato but it's still a tomato. Yes but also. The tomato shouldn't be in the picture to be put lipstick on. The tomato is three doors down not the band and away from the makeup chair. Where the lipstick is can't believe. They're so anti tomato. See The you always do this you you take you make like. Oh you put clothes on bananas Oh you. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that you know so I think of a Taco right got Shell. You got the salsa you got GUAC LETTUCE SOUR CREAM. You got the meat or plant based on filling tomato. Isn't there it's in the salsa as a part of the salsa ingredients but it's not a main player so like if the tacos background had fourteen. I'm in GUAC ON IN SALSA. I'm in it was tomatoes whole tomatoes. And it's a propaganda because they're trying to convince us. Hey US putting the head on the TACO. That's a normal thing and I'm like no. No no no no no. That's not a normal thing. It works because it you gave the TACO ahead you had to put something round on top of the Taco to give it ahead so I'll give you that but don't try and make me believe that tomatoes are on a Taco. Because I feel like that's not case. Would you say tomato your tonight? I love tomatoes. Well I guess I just feel here without you. Three doors down. Yeah I was wondering how many I could go for. I only know like what like a handful of songs so I was going to run out real. I didn't catch the KRYPTONITE thing until the three one. Well when I'm gone. Yeah okay well. The three doors down is not the numerical band that the Taco saying about the TACO. Did a song by the four tops called. Can't help myself. I love this song. yeah yeah. Is this song too long for your liking. No this is perfect. This is one of the old signs. I absolutely love actually between the four tops and then the bill weather sun the banana dead. I was very happy with the songs that were chosen in this episode. I think I really like oldies is what I'm reminded of. I heard all three of those songs for the first time tonight on the Massingir. What was the other one that was new for you? The first one we listened to. Are you serious? Yeah the Wrong Lambert Song. Yeah Oh man. Wow we have very different music days over. Sure I mean when I can spot low wayne with nothing else and you can see by Dionne Warwick nothing. I feel like that gives you all. You need to know about our contrast and tastes true that although I don't like cheap low Wayne I just happened to listen to Sean. That's not important. What's important is the most outrageous thing about the backup. Dancers wasn't the fat suits wasn't the chef genus. What was outrages? Was that the dancers to this. Oldie or flocking and naming. Watch them Nayna. No no I never slash me and watch me nate. That's the thing I know that so that but you can't just do dances to songs that don't match sure. Yeah Yeah. I have apparently on learning that. I'm very passionate about the tacos stance and performance and the dancers tacos your ups no the topic. I love. I love Tom Birger. On I had an inkling was him from the beginning. Very happy with the performance is actually. Don't think the tacos should've gone tonight will get there but so just some up on the TACO. Actually dancers were fine. You could tell that mid performance the audience are really into it and that was promising to see but ultimately it was. It was okay. It was it was not as good as the kitties even though it might have presented more razzle-dazzle than the kiddies. I thought it was weaker so I was actually. I thought I was going to be more mad than I was. In retrospect does that make any sense. I thought it was gonNA come on here and be. Oh my God. I can't believe the banana made it but I'm actually happy with. The decision was made. I thought I was actually fine. The TACO GOING. I so in my notes I wrote down. Okay I think tacos going but I have a reason why I don't like that. The TACO went over the banana. And we'll get there when we talk about the bananas conversations and songs and stuff but there's a specific reason why I was annoyed. Okay yes so the bracelet for the banana. The TACO came from or went to Nicole and bracelets at kiss and When they saw Nicole in person Nicole was perfect which goes back to the dance being perfect one don to Assam by kiss which very weird way to get there. I thought of is fine actually and I liked the phrasing and I think that that's something I appreciate about. The clues is that they're very specific with the phrasing sometime so for example to say I saw you in person. You were perfect imply something different than when we met for the first time right so to see somebody in person is very different than when. I met you for the first time so I thought that that was actually really cool with the way that they did the wording so I was all right with it. Jenny. Kissing Howie Mandel however I was not okay with which by the way. Howie Mandel known Germaphobe Jenny the Anti vaccine what is even going on in the world. I mean it could have been a situation where he did not know they could have been case of entrapment or he didn't know she was an anti boxer. Till after the fact maybe I don't know the man notorious for fist bumping people on dealer not L. is now I am an expert watched. Several dealer no deals very odd very odd. I'm very intrigued. What story is behind that? I don't WanNa know. I do because curiosity. Nah Okay thank you. I like to the tacos. Final words trust first impressions and be a little nicer to each to each other. So I've decided from here on out. I'm GONNA unauthorised the banana but we'll see how long that lasts. Okay you got some fighting words for the banana for a long time. So I know but the banana won me over this week and thank you Taco for her. Reminding me who I want to be as a person which is to be a little nicer to each other except for Don McLean. Who wrote the longest song in the history of Jesus? Christ you can't pick and choose when you WANNA use these wise words how dare you. I'm like Gandhi. Yes very much so in the same league. Yeah I mean essentially. Yeah pretty much the same person me the Dalai Lama Gandhi. I'll just like hanging out. One of these. Things is unlike. How dare you? I meant the Dalai Lama clearly. Of course yes. Of course I will say that. That was very nice. And that that whole moment and then bright beforehand we cut to commercial. They're talking about how. Oh Jerry Springer do that ended his final words at the show and I thought hey. This is all really good logic. But I'm sad to report that I know is in Jerry Springer but that logic was great but the Tom Ridge includes too strong. But that made me think. Do you think Jerry Springer would ever do the show? I don't know I have no idea. Is that show still on the Jerry Springer show. Yeah I don't think so I mean Jerry. Springer is pretty old. Now right I mean how. Okay this is now you take the Mike while I do a little bit of googling okay I will talk about. Let me think of other foods that go in our. Yeah other foods that go in tacos. Okay you have cheese. Unless you're like me to list all the foods go and I think we've we've harped on the TACO enough for one sitting on it. Looks like the show goes on and off like it went on till twenty eighteen so it went on for twenty seven seasons. That is a very long time. Yeah and then after the cancellation of the show. It was announced that springer would host a new courtroom show titled Judge Jerry which premiered on September ninth twenty nineteen o like judge. Judy Judge Judys done done while. Rupa's give real upset through Paul's favourite show. Call sorry films. In front of a live studio audience in Stamford Connecticut. That's not very far from me. You WanNa go all right. We're going to judge Jerry. Judging Jiri jury still at the beginning. Well we're GONNA find out because like ordering the court I mean it's fake court but it's still court yeah. I don't think all the rules still apply. Oh okay so the first second paragraph on the wikipedia signature Jerry Jerry. China's been carried over to judge. Jerry may only at the beginning of the show never during the actual procedure. Okay before we talk about the banana quickly mentioned that if you have any planning going on right now for any kind of traveling head over to rob as a website dot com slash travel. This link will have any potential offers that are on the table to help. Plan your next trip or your next vacation or your next work trip or anything in between really. So that's Robinson website dot com slash travel and now we'll take a message for sponsor and we're back like a bag on your back. It only takes forty five minutes to get to the tape. It where they judge Jerry. Just F Y so ray yes definitely sounds like a great day trip like a total great use of my very limited time. So what have you been doing in the state you know? You don't want to Jerry taping. It was very nice like everybody does the sites the judge Jerry Age Airy Eg Egg egg speaking of egg a performer. That doesn't quite mesh well with an egg. Because I don't think you can make a recipe with eggs and bananas that I can think of off the top of my head banana bread so speaking of egg. Let's add some Kanana to it and make it a banana bread. It's the banana it's up. Any Anna deavere banana bread have accident. I just assumed D I believe Yup Yup Yup Yup Yup Yup to eggs beaten boom nailed it man plus for breakfast. You can have an egg and then you can have a banana. I don't know that counts. Fruit fruit fruit and eggs. Plus everyone is a banana fan. That's not that's what the banana said at the top of the package. I'm not lying. Is The Bananas Conversation Cannon? Well that's what the banana said. And you believe you're known ops. Ted I take it back BANANAS NO LONGER MY UPS. I really liked the song and I liked the performance. Even though we got to see the MAC tonight dancers back. Okay so the banana has two lovely young bananas there to talk about him in the clue package and they talk about how he's such a great role model and he one of the first instances. They took him go karting or some and he's been through a lot of heartburn. I noticed that there was a spider on the table. There was some like weird stand on the table and then there was a there was a jar of jam on the table. Did these link you anywhere. Give you anything. Did Jam really stood out to me because it was clearly lit separately than the rest of the weird banana family children. I have no idea what it means though. Maybe jam is the name of like Jeremy Jam. You got jammed a person not the food. Necessarily it may refer to being in a jam or being friends with someone named Jan which is very similar to jam. Or it's an acronym that stands for Jason Under Michael That's better how about jamming on my planner. Watch the whole in the PEGO. Oh no just just the jam in part also that's a Hartson recreation referenced. But it's win silly out her dating profile and the Jeremy. I'm thinking me thinking she's like what are what are your hobbies. Jama planner which I love because that would also be one of my hobbies jam plan just got. No you've just got note. Built a race track in the backyard. Did built the whole thing himself. And yes. It's been through a lot of heartburn which I assume it's supposed to be a pun and actually refers to heartbreak. I don't think so okay. Somebody who literally has a lot of heart birth someone who is probably like bigger had these before and is now lower set. Smaller anything goes. I can't I can't tell if you're making a joke or you're being serious weight loss journey. Yeah really yeah you think. Do you think it's one of the the comedian guys and they lost a lot of weight. I don't know any of them like their past even know their future that their present really but because I think about like someone like drew Carey who was definitely overweight in the early goings of his career. And now as I lean so I think it's someone in that mall but I can't quite figure out who Okay I disagree with you. I feel like it is somebody who's been through a lot of heart. A maybe also heartburn with eight or break at that point. It just felt weird to specific. I guess that makes more sense the Taco yeah I feel like does do bananas induce heartburn like that. I don't know I'm never. I've never had heartburn from bananas. I learnt the hard way that if you like more than two bananas in one sitting your stomach will hurt and I was young I had four and oh no this is awful why I have so many questions one. Why did you eat for bananas at one time? I was hungry and there was bananas and the Fruit Bowl and I was like you know. This banana was good. Also good on. This one was also good in by the fourth one. There was one left and I think in my in my child housing lemieux's finish it like finish the set you know. Let me get the set. So at four bananas and then I felt Tummy. Tummy burn for like a couple of hours. But no heartburn. Come on have you had bananas sense. Yeah gotTA say since. I've moved out on my own namely to Canada. I don't recall having bananas often because bananas at one of those things that I forget I have and then they go back and then I don't want them. Okay got it. Do you have been Anna's. Do I have bananas? I do not have bananas in my home. Right now. Is the court. I guess I eat bananas. Yeah but like we learned last week. They're high in CARBS. But have you felt heartburn through heartburn because if a banana okay see I think? The banana went through heartburn. So the banana was bigger before. Oh my gosh. Apparently this got cut from the episode but t pain made a bunch of Dick Jokes about the banana so mad I have never been more mad in my entire life except for whatever I complained about earlier. You believe I gotTa Miss. Out on the team pain. Banana Dick Jokes. Well he did talk about the banana being what the inside of a minion would look like so that was an odd thing he said. Yeah that was weirdly apt. I got it. I understood what he was saying like. Yeah no that makes sense. It does like like the inside of a minion appealed. One back yeah Just because they're both like yellow phones. There's nothing else a links them while they're yellow and they're kind of like cylinder ish. Yeah Ish being operative or they're sad we don't get the Phallic banana jokes from t pain but I'm sure if you listen to his last album one up. There's plenty of Phallic jokes in there to see a valid jokes. Yes I'm sure. Yeah Okay Cool. I love you this performance. Go for okay first of all. Yes we get the backup dancers. Which were the Mac? Tonight's out tonight now. They were in choir. Robes there were five dancers on stage and then on the back screen there were like twenty extra dancers animated swaying back and forth which was very weird but all of that aside I wrote. Oh this is actually good. So maybe it was low expectations that I went into the bananas performance with but I really enjoyed his interpretation of bill withers lean on me. I thought it was very well done. And when I watched the performance in real time I thought okay I think the tacos. Outta here because I hadn't seen we haven't seen the frog yet and I felt the frogs safe so to me. This whole thing was a showdown between tacon banana. Banana took it here. The audience loved it. You could tell. The buildup was good to win. All the dancing goes down so that was good and the voice was really decent so no bad things to say about this former except for the backup dancer. Mac tonight folk. Yeah I also have another think complain about is that the cheer for the banana still sounds like Nanna. Which sounds like. You're cheering for your grandmother. And it really bothers me for some reason. Why your grandmother going no no no? I'm not saying don't cheer for your grandma. Of course cheer for your grandmother but cheering for nate manners. Like Banana. Nana's Nanna. That's that is because especially also because of the bananas a Partier. We know apparently and memory isn't what it used to be and how maybe it is grandma. Go Go Nanna. Oh Okay. So the hand motions for the contestants. The person who went to the tapings shared with me very detailed what the hand motions are. Would you like to hear them? Sure okay. Banana. Put the left hand out. Ninety degrees palm facing towards you thumb tucked. Then use the right hand to peel the banana. No like you peel it like banana and then you you you peel it way. So left arm out ninety degrees. Yeah and then with the palm facing and then you tuck the thumb your four digits in front of you. You're like make. It looks like a banana. Then you use your right hand to peel the banana peel. You're not left with the Middle Finger. Look I understand. What are clue you. Peel back the fingers. Yeah that's what I was doing this on TV. Oh that's so much better though. I was just faking peeling was pulling anything. Oh your hand isn't the banana. Oh you peel around it. I guess I see okay. And then the tacos is. We were told to make a t and then did. Oh yeah right so that when we knew and then for the kitty it was make pause and rub them across your forehead like a cat cleaning so those are the official instructions and then the frog was webbed. Hands that move up and down and really know how to do that but yeah okay well I gotta say Kitties is the worst one out of those for me or bananas. Bananas is pretty bad. But how could you even make good banana one? I don't even know what that would be. I like mine but it's not safe for TV exactly. Yeah so the so okay. So I teased this earlier about not liking. Specific thing about the banana getting through. I thought the performance was strong enough that it could take it. What I didn't like is the banana getting the extra opportunity to talk about losing their father. Because now you have a simple devoting Obviously I'm very sad to hear that like that. News is heavy enough that when ever you hear it you like. It's sad but to put that our competition like this to me just garner sympathy votes and this is a situation specifically where now that. We're talking about it. I do think the banana had the stronger performance on the night. So it's fine but I don't like it. That was in there. I'm not not at it because they all got an opportunity to talk. And if you remember the Raven one part of her big story was I was. Didn't she lose her partner? Something like that but that was in the clue packages not post performance on the night but it was still. It's still part of her story right so I think part of the story of the character you get an opportunity to build who you are what you want to convey to the judges and so I think that this was. This was a choice and I can't be mad at okay well. The Bananas Bracelet went to Jenny McCarthy and it said nineties on it nineties did it just say ninety s ninety s love right. They said love. I think it was just because they're our hearts next to it. I don't think I had anything to do with love because from ninety s love. I got the TV show. I love the ninety S. there was on. Vh One day so it could be somebody who did commentary on. I love the nineties. Jenny McCarthy did commentary on. I love the nineties. I genuinely care remember. There were so many people that on I love the ninety S. How many episodes they did they did. I love the nineties. I love the nineties perdue. I think they did only three. The eighty s the. It's the one. Have you ever seen it no have you? You haven't seen any of the I love the eighty s early. Seventy S or. I love the new Millennia. No Oh my gosh. That's where I learned everything about history. Screw my history class. I watch style of the eighties and the night of the nineties. It was essentially where you go through each year and then they would talk about. What are the major events that happened that year and actually in the I love the ninety s one they did Jerry Springer's final thoughts on? I love the ninety s and they would cover each year per episode so they would do. Oh I love the ninety s nine thousand nine hundred ninety and then they were talking about everything that happened in nineteen ninety so they covered things like pretty women and and twin peaks and ghost and MC Hammer versus vanilla ice and all of those types of things and then they had a bunch of talking heads. They would talk about it. It's what Morocco's on there and Michael Ian Black. How about we talked about this. What am I talked about this with me anyway? Yes so so I did look it up because I think I actually have a guest. Read The Bananas Okay. Okay and I've been trying to put this together and this is the clue that finally did it for me. I think it's Bret Michaels of poison guy. Yes why is first of all this stood out to me after? Been through a lot of heartburn in my life heart ache I have watched every single season of the rock of love show including the season the third season when they were on the tour bus. I did not watch the other bret. Michaels show that featured him later. But I did watch those three so I know that he's been through several women because that's how the show works. Plus he was in a relationship. He's got two kids. I have no idea if the go carts make any sense but he was also on. I love the ninety s part. Do why do you keep saying he's saying what Pardieu because that's how it's not too? It's it's good part because that's what they said the show. You know what it's an important. The most important part is that. I think it's my hair band theory. Which is what I got stuck on because I was trying to think of. Who IN HAIR? Bayan which poison totally fits would be part of this. Okay that's my thought I don't hate it. I think in a strong guests. I don't have anything else to contribute or like validate so I think right now but I will say this. I do have to think. Think about it a little bit more. But that's what I'm getting an the voice. I could hear it. I mean he was a big partyer. It totally fits. I'm was looking for more rock of love clues. I'M NOT GONNA lie. Because that's what I know the most about Bret Michaels I and then daisy of love. Who because daisy came in second place spoiler on the second season of Bret Michaels Rock of love? She then had her own spinoff. Show which I also watched that okay. I learnt a lot. I have seen all of those love shows on. Vh One VH1 golden era of reality TV like the mid 2000s was such a wonderful I am. I can't agree nor disagree because I didn't I didn't have each one is my gosh. I have so many. Tv shows for you to watch. I can't wait. Oh my God. We have to watch flavor of love. Do we have Labor of love? I Love New York Rock. Yes okay fine. We don't have to but anyway I think this is Bret Michaels to get back to the point of like is it like must see TV. I think there's a lot of people out there that would agree with me. Magsi include okay. So I'll fat endorsement. I'm in and if we get added then I'm more in okay. Everyone at who is on twitter. Please please you might get one if come on people. So Jenny was given the friendship bracelet. And the reason was we had a little chance to hang friends. We had a great time. And I love you. You were an awesome person when they were doing. I Love Ninety s together. There you go. I need love the guest. I mean Larry. The Cable Guy's not a good guess. Johnny Knoxville is someone who they're right on the Senate enough. He's going to be on one of these he could be in the next batch. We don't know yet. That's entirely possible. Yeah I could totally see that. And then Well the banana said. I gave Jenny Friendship Bracelet which completely threw off her guests. Which good I guess I think so then last Banal East we get to what I would like to call the performer of the night. And if the FROG FROG comes out to to ribbit too quick. I've known frog. Since he was a tadpole. There was a shampoo and comb in the package. The invisible person took him to his first late. Night talk show. Even those past bedtime was cool. There was a green bow tie and there was a blue lily pad. And those were the clues. Did you make anything out of them? No I don't what did you say to Ribbit to quit? Yeah like too legit to quit like MC hammer because in the beginning of the center set in one of the judges at tour of it to quit MC MC hammer to rib to quit. There's like a hand motion for too legit to quit. I learned that in middle school wasn't on. I Love Ninety S. No I love the news. I also did not get anything from this but I think if we go with bow Everything kind of makes sense especially pave the way for others. I think that that's totally good. Although although Marianne guesses I think are also very good so yeah Omar ends up very strongest because like last season it was like a wayne breed. You could be like Taye diggs and those were two very close guesses. That could have gone either way as well so I think it's the same kind of nature here. Sorry you were going to say something and I cut you off drinking water okay. All this complaining about stuff has made me thirsty or fan growing on TV shows. That are what fifteen years old now? Yeah apparently must see. Yeah I think the the bow tie. I just looked at a bow tie because bow. Wow that's close enough for me at this point incredibly stupid but I love it about. Oh what are you wearing tonight? Don't worry I got my tie on. So you didn't need to wear a bow tie for this next performance because the frog had bells on this was a great performance. You dropped a bomb on me by the gap band. There was all money motif. I think the frog is playing their character. The best which I very much enjoy this like mobster frog with all the money and then there's no fault in the background simple stuff but I enjoyed it and then I was over the background dancers when they were trying to like hand the bag of money to each other behind him but then when they passed the money back to the frog himself on the frog took over. I was good with that. But I'm done with the backup dancers doing weird things amongst themselves in the background like either with the Taco when the fat suit folk walked in a line with the TACO. I enjoyed that. Because they're part of the performance extra stuff in. The background has no link to the performer. Then it just like makes trying to pull my eyes away and I don't want that and then we saw the frog do a little two step. Do some like moonwalk asked movements. I think the FROG has the best stage presence on the season foreshore. This was my favorite performance of the night by far and I do think last week. I said I don't see him being in the Fox zone. They met the judges. Mentioned it on this episode that he is and after this performance. I'm ready to say that. This is the Fox of the season really. I I almost want to disagree with you even more because you feel so strongly about it. I thought it was fine. I didn't think I thought that he's very very clearly a talented dancer. But I thought it was fine the performance. I really agreed with you with the backup dancers. Just doing their own thing. Which is very distracting. It reminded me of cheese that was being thrown around by REX. Backup dancers a juror. Stanway Shanwei they hit him on the head with the bag of money and then I expected more when the thing was gonNA explode at the end when he pushed down the I thought it was gonNA launch like fireworks or some kind of some sequence. That didn't have what happened with the bag. What's of money you? What was the story that was trying to be told? I really didn't get it boss. That's what I took from it. Okay so he's a mob boss who his minions stole money wall wearing suits like leotards made of money. They stole money. Then they fought over it in the background for a bit before handing it to the mob boss the mob boss then proceeds to blow something up. Yes okay. Yeah Yeah I find I just for me last week. My big critique was. I don't think that the song even though I I enjoy when they take genre and bend it. I didn't think it was performed that well but I think this this performance in particular you have the dancing song was good. The Frog controls the audience on like anyone we've seen on the show before gets them involved. Gets them chanting prompt them? These are things that are important especially if we go back to the live audience feedback that we've gone that being there. You want that energy that attention paid to you and I think the audience is very important and I think it's one of the reasons why the White Tiger made it as far as they did but I think the frog is someone who maybe doesn't have a strong voice as the Fox did but he's got the dance got stage presence got the MOTIF and the character down. I think the frog is GonNa make far I do. I don't know if I'm quite ready to say that. It's going to be a winner contention yet. We'll have to see the next batch but I'm feeling relatively strongly. I think this is a situation where I totally see the logic behind it. I totally see why. If you're the studio audience y you would enjoy this type of of performance is just not my cup of tea but I get so is your cup of tea. I really liked the bananas performances week. It was my favorite or you. I don't even know anymore. Look in the mirror and all I see is banana rable I I know. It's an all along crazy. I like the most are are ones that I think are able to do. Both that have both a fun performance and also have a strong vocal presentation and to be honest. This season in comparison to the last two hasn't really brought it in the same way in the vocal department. No I think there's a couple of factors one is obviously. There's more of them and the way they've split them. I think they've clearly split like two very strong vocalists and each batch and then there's a lot more like you're noticing a lot more of the not as good vocalists on as a result but I am intrigued. Because I think I'm feeling I'm sensing that this season the entertainers are making it. Further than the vocalists you think more so even even more so outside of the talk like your Voices Amazing Turtle. You're great you're going kangaroo agree you're going. You know we think of so right now. I Guess Bananas Voices that Bad. Either it kind of goes back the white tiger being like the one out later right and I think everybody is an okay singer. There's that's left right. I don't think that anybody here except for that's Oh my gosh. They definitely don't deserve to be here. I'm fine with everybody being here. Who was so Ninja. The ice cream was not a good singer. I would argue Ninja was. I don't know I don't know I'd have to go back and rethink but I also think the eggs should not have been sent home because I was a better singer than that. Showdown against to lose. I pineapple maybe the season prior. Did I tell you how am I supposed to remember anything that having a couple of weeks ago let alone seasons ago? This is why Mike. Bloom always never ceases to amaze me. He somehow remembers everything. I'm like dude. I can barely remember what I ate earlier. Today Mike. The depot bloom for nothing goes full bloom good old. I can't even remember okay. All right I'M GONNA look it up. Okay all right you take the microphone. All right let me grab the MIC on one. Two one two so we finish off with the frog by having people really really really enjoy this the the frog mentions that they lost their love for music and they wanted to quit at one point he Got a bracelet for t pain. That said all we do is win which was not to a song. I was going to go check and see if he's featured on that track bow is but I didn't so that's my bad and then Omarosa obviously so actually this. I need your commentary on. Did you enjoy the fake out of them teasing candidate can? Maybe your daddy can and got you a bracelet. Did you enjoy this back and forth or was it no? It was fine. I'm just nervous for three weeks from now when we're going to get the conclusion to this gift story of will can ever get he thank. You don't think the La- the very very last one will be for can. No I think what will happen. Sir Here's my prediction. So they do this stuff and then cans waiting. Oh my God my God is my turn to get against is the last one. It's going to be for the guests. And the guests is GonNa see in but my God Blah Blah Blah Blah. And then. You're going to be like. Hey Daddy Nick Cannon which Yikes did you get him a gift? Daddy Kennewick no and the guests will be like. I guess. I'm the daddy now because I got you a gift. Can John and Ken Jones going to get a gift from the gas judge? So that's my prediction. Oh my God can be like the que- me a gift. Daddy three daddy no way. Also the egg lost to the skeleton. Oh Paul Shaffer okay fine. I was very okay with it when I thought it was shocking. But that's fine. Yeah so my notes at this point I wrote all right I think the TACO is done. So that's been rhyming by me. It should be the banana though. I would not be mad if it's the banana. And then we got a thing again. We gotta think at the beginning of the show and be careful with your votes. Dionne Warwick went last week. We got the same thing again at the show and here which other okay we come on. Are you warn unfair? Yeah like stop it you you have to talk to the audience there and we know that you can't because you be in the past. Yeah exactly essentially. You're putting the entire blame on the audience. Being like Ovitz eats their fault. It's their fault. They time traveling nick. Cannon was not able to get back in time to give them a warning on what people from the future were mad about when Dionne Warwick home like it seems really shady. I actually really don't like it at all just own up to like that's the way is if if you feel like everybody's mad about everything then clearly there's a problem with the way the performances of the judging or something is going on. Phnom saying mean definitely I mean so. Yeah not a fan that but you know knowing that this season is well underway. This isn't going to stop and it's GonNa keep going so then next time when we lose night angel to the Rhino and then everyone's mad they're going to be like listen. You guys voted to be careful. You voted out the angel. So Yeah Oh man. I'm excited. Fire last group. Yeah we'll talk about them right at the end here. But basically Barry manilow Nicole's gas Martin Short was Kenan Robbins against someone else. Who's been mentioned multiple times on the show? Kelsey grammer was T- pains and then Jerry Springer was Jenny's it was Tom Bergeron. We found out that Bob side was a friend in the package and I felt sad. I was very into Tom. Birger on throughout his tenure on the show even though I thought Tacos cost them was awful Fun but awful and you know I do not know Tom. Donahue pipes like that but I'm glad we figured him out. Yeah I was really impressed. And it seemed like he was having a lot of fun is something that I very much appreciate. He was just smiling ear to ear when they took the mask off. I thought that was really cool for me. That's the most important trait is if you can tell they're happy to be there than I'm happy for them exactly and then so I went ahead and look at the unmasked interview that Tom Joined it on Youtube. He said the reason he wanted to do. The show is because so many people he worked with work on this show and the prospect of being in their midst and fooling them would be fun. Oh that's cool motivation. He mentioned he was relieved when he got unmasked. He mentioned how hard it was to have the mask on we. I've learned that with these unmasked interviewers. They kind of recycle the same stuff that are like. Oh my God. My helmet was like heavy and it was hard. It was a you know. He mentioned I did A. I worked a lot doing this like more than I've ever worked before these earn intense costumes. There are no joke. Yeah an intense schedules from what we understand with all the driving in the rehearsals and the masks and the hide me. And all that right yeah. It's very intensive clues that he unveiled. They're talking about obviously the VHS is where America's funniest home videos the anchor was him be. He's he did some talk show hosting and was a guest anchor on Good Morning America for a while so okay. Yeah M. E. on the menu was actually the two Emmy so. I thought that was really cool that Nicole figure that out and then he did end this again with also some more. He said we all wear masks. Were more complicated than first glance so just be a little nicer to each other. It behooves us all to do that. See I feel so inspired. Maybe I should put that on my board instead of polycom keeping the positive and stay crash. I think it shouldn't have taken us this long to find something better but I'm glad you did Tom. Bergeron was the one that brought you there. Yeah I think I'm GonNA quote the TACO though and not Tom version that's fun. I think that's a loud. I'll put it both I'll put I'LL PUT TACO AKA. Tom Purtzer much room on your core or Tiny letters I have big letters in tiny letters so I could use a tiny letters big letter little letter. Okay now we have a couple of questions. Are you down to answer some before we get out of here? Let's do it perfect so Sarah had to questions or no three questions. If it was a final six instead of a final mine. Who WOULD WIN QUESTION MARK? Who WOULD BE FIRST OUT QUESTION MARKS? Let's answer this one first before we answer the next one. So if the final six was the turtle the kangaroo the white tiger the banana the and the frog who would be the first out of that bunch and who would win. Oh God okay I gotTa Keep Track of. Everybody is is so complicated. I would assume the white tiger go out. I but what the hell do I know? Probably going to be someone else like the kangaroo and I think the turtle who'd win. I think the turtles the strongest contender on the board. Right now. Vocally I think the frog is up there. I think the kitties up there by the kangaroos up there. Basically I think the banana and the white tiger would be on the bottom and one of them to definitely be first out and then for the winner I would I won't say the same as you see the Kiddy. I'll be different. I'll see the kid would win. I think again it really comes down to song choice. I okay. Here's the thing because we have no Alma. Gosh this person is absolutely amazing. Stand out it means that the race for the top is actually very competitive and is very close. Because you don't necessarily have those standouts which actually kind of makes it pretty exciting to see who's GonNa win them? Seeing competition shows they have like. Oh this was eighties week here in American idol and everyone did an eighty song. I wonder if that would level the playing field a little bit because make it thematic. I don't know there's a lot of options. Though Bret michaels would be like. Oh I got us. Yeah it is him. So that's what I'm saying. Is that if they did that. That would level it would also force people to do songs out of what would be known as their comfort zone. Cabinet would have to be later when you people that are maybe more serious about it. Also they are celebs. I feel like getting them. You know having done like a mass survivor thing. If they say yes let them do what they can exactly. Thank you so much for being show. We appreciate you okay. So Sarah's other question was what costumes are you most looking forward to for the next So Leon we've got the astronaut the bear the Rhino the swan the T. rex in the night angel. Which one am I most excited for? Yes the astronauts looks really cool. It's true To be to be on it okay. Night Angel is breaking terrifying so yes I am excited. I am equally terrified but I have to be honest. The T-REX is the one I'm most excited for. It's got these dufy little arms which I assume it got your. I assume it can move them. Normally it's not sort of restricted to t rex movement. For some reason it seems to be dressed in like sixteen. Hundreds attire doesn't make any sense to you rex. Yeah it's a very renaissance which. Oh yes of course. The T rexes that word known for their Shakespearian Times or something. I I don't know but I'm looking forward to. It was showcased along the elephant at the Natural Museum. History Museum of L. A. on February I. I was the first time we saw the wrecks. Fun Fact. Wait oh the mask yes yes yes okay. I feel like I knew that okay. You knew that and you didn't tell me why kidding thing trouble. I don't know what I am stoked to see the night angels terrifying but I need to see this close like see what's going on. I think that you're gonNA have the easiest crowd gesture that we can think of for. Sure and I think astronaut does look cool not gonNA lie. That does local bear looks and I think the swan is this. Season's Flamingo and I don't quite care for it okay. It's definitely more fifteen hundreds. Sorry for the T. Rex. I just want to make sure I get my get your errors right my period clothing correct. Yeah the Swan. I know you'RE GONNA hate. I know you've complained about it. I know you're GONNA hate it. I'm going to have to deal with you complaining about something that I don't care about so you deal with me with me complaining about stuff that you probably don't care about so I'll suck it up but I don't hate it like you do and it's not that bad. It looks bad okay and I actually spoke for the Rhino. And here's why the Rhinos. Outfit Looks Very Jumanji. The movie to me. I said it looks like what's his face. The Jonas brother. It looks like Nick Jonas. When he's in the movie it does but I'm holding because I don't think the Jonas brothers would be on this show. I'm holding out the teensy bit of hope that this is restarted. Just the teen is hope because that would be awesome. Maybe maybe I could potentially see it's death not Jonas brother and welcome to Jumanji so I'll be down right so yeah writers. It looks cool Ronaldo pilot so that's nice that's nice against now is the bear looks the most budget out of everybody. The bear does look the most budget. It's not as bad as the penguin from two seasons ago that that was last season last season ago. You know what the bears hands. Look like those pause carver's no. I've seen scarves that have ends. That are like that that you can put your hands through a normal thing. No I think I know what you're talking about. I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah okay it. Looks like a repurpose couch. Look a seventies no or like a shag carpet. What can we do with this? Mix this blend. I heard two doors down the Mass Sarah Costume Department looking for some stuff. Let's just drop these off. Are you sure it wasn't three doors down? It was definitely not true tortoise. I got the joke. Well the road I'm on beyond us. Do you have their discography Oakland for a man to Google? It just now out of three doors. I did one at too many new something because I knew the other ones and then I was out of jokes and I wanted to make another one. I was like Iger. Is they flew too close to the sun. Okay One last question before we get. Everyone's hair here. So Tim asks we've seen eight guys on four women. Do you think the last group will correct. The gender imbalance can't release going five females one guy to get to nine nine so I had a notice this until I saw this question and then I looked into it and one hundred percent notice also if you look at the final three from each group. It's one woman. One woman to two men final three four. The finale of season season two as well. I mean we've had two male winners and we already are coming in with a big male to female disparity also the winner of the Massingir. Au is male. Thankfully Oh my God senior. Uk off because if the hedge whatever. Okay I won't get into right now. The yes it is a concern. It is very much a concern for me and I am nervous because I think even we have equal men and women the women still or some reason struggle when you have the men and it's show friggin weird it because you have a Taco of banana and still somehow their gender and still somehow is like makes a difference in the performance so frigging frustrating deal with your own internal biases devolve fan of the disparity. I feel like you're giving US eighteen. Give me nine and nine and don't stack the deck so that being said I'm looking at these costumes I can't I think. Bear and Swan. I think are women night Angel Night Angel Dust. Three the astronaut be I mean yeah. It's definitely possible. But it's I mean this is GonNa sound absolutely insane to say this. This is gendered in some way but it doesn't have eyelashes. So how can you tell a woman as we learn with Miss Martin all my God everything is like? Oh whatever? Whatever bra the t? Rex I will say I think is probably a male doj looking at fashion from the fifteen hundred s seems to be more traditional male dress. Let your specialist all of a sudden based on my cursory googling however we did have seal which was very wonderful costume so you never know. You never know okay. Well THAT ABOUT WRAPS UP. All the mass singer conversations. We're going to have today just before we start talking about. What's coming up if you are a fan of the podcast and you'd like what you're hearing. Please go ahead and leave a rating or review for us. It always helps. It really does at ROBA's website dot com slash mask singer. One word now Liana. Where can people find you? And what are you up to? You can find me on social media at Liana. Boris so speaking of box shows my sister and I got back together. Talk about Lego Masters. We covered episodes two three and four. 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Big Brother All-Stars | Wednesday 8/26 Episode Recap

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Big Brother All-Stars | Wednesday 8/26 Episode Recap

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I know we got a lot out at the round table last night but I'm sure there's room for more venting. All right. Yes. Plenty of room for venting. Its airing of grievances always on the you. Roundtable. Excited to hear what you have to say about this episode of course, back with us very excited to talk with. The host of the Ninety Day fiance wrap up here he is the great please ambiguity puja. How are you? I'm doing while rob is always a grand time to come here and talk big brother. You were talking about Weird Vetoes and star babies I can never never say no to come on here and just speak my mind on this crazy show that I do enjoy Okay. All Right I. Have another one of our newcomers here with us? She spoke in the preseason about Enzo and I'd say she was probably a little too low on Enzo based on well Enzo has done. She was recently on the survivor BNB. A welcoming Maggie. Morgan Maggie. How are you? I'm doing great what an episode to talk about tonight. I can't wait to talk about all of what we just saw. It's GonNa be a good time. Okay Maggie. I feel like are the person that really discovered Enzo the rapper I you know I I can't. I can't take all the credit but I'm going to take most of the credit just say you're welcome to the community for bringing Dwight swale into. Well Gee. If they used to have such an eye for talent and we appreciate that. Okay. You presidential has not rapping yet this season. I'm very surprised. I can't believe. He's what is he doing as if I was his agent, I would be super upset with him. He's gotTa get his words out there. The world needs to hear his music and his rapping sow. Okay. All right. Well, well, hopefully, he'll have an opportunity at some point later on this season. Okay. So we'll talk about everything from tonight and plus a look at the live feeds and get a sense of how this vote is going for Thursday night as we head into our third eviction coming up. Thursday, we'll also take your questions here in this podcast. As we recap another Wednesday three weeks into a big brother twenty one, it was only three weeks ago tonight most remember all optimism. Philip get always that way. Every season it's like, I come into it and then like I got my little rose colored glasses on Likud rosy cheeks news like everyone what a great season I'm so excited I, love this cast every season, and then it's like Like you know as the weeks go by, it's just like more and more dejected. Sad upset angry even maybe. You know. So it's been fun but it's also been frustrating but isn't that the way it always is. Yup Yup seems to be seems to be here in big brother, twenty two and I. Guess we should have seen this coming being that it's twenty twenty and this is. What this is our lot in life but Tonight was really the last stand for cancer and Janelle to potentially both stay a veto. Did. Them in. I did love the conversation with a case or engineer tonight of talking about their friendship goals. There big time friendship goals they're they're exactly know this whole meal. Comic duo truly come at me with a more conic big brother duo personally for me. This is it. I'm not fixing for a showman's pair to be the I'm not I'm not a Hitman guy this is for me this. Is, what was the origin and Jr is what's going to stand the test of time from May? Have We. I would argue chill town as well. Yeah. Erasure Chiltan at this point yes. Yes. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A group that stays together also Brendon and Rachel. Maybe yes. True, pitch and Alan case or are so iconic that we can call them like we can refer to them by their friendship and they've outlasted their enemies right? Like they were friendships arch enemy, and now we're saying their friendship goals. So I would argue that they are the most long lasting jewel of them. All. Yeah. And it was a veto competition and you know you hear about these things from the live feed updates and from you know reading everything on twitter. With this veto competition that you expected when we actually saw tonight. No honestly three weeks in rob three weeks in and I'm starting to tab less and less fate in the the whisper game we play telling of the feeds Goss I. We had the whole Kisha Change Dot Org situation that didn't really turn out to be. Then, we had last week now this I did not think this was. Like Oh, my God thirty five seconds was i. don't know what went on. That was solely impressive I kinda get it now i. kind of understand how this like you know I'm not really my my socks bloat off by this veto so. Yeah. This was this was not even like. Like. It was just kind of like, okay. We're just like watching them make ice cream cones or something about like, okay this is what we're watching. Everyone was so mad that like cody one like big brothers rigging these competition for these like big at Brenick. Seven year old I babysit for could have done this competition and won like I don't understand it. Seemed very out of proportion right on out in the retailing that you would think that there was like some sorta like Olympic style obstacle course like the American Ninja Warrior Wall had to be climbed in Oh. My God you have to be so physical to do it and this was not a physical challenge. At all this was this was literally I. R. L. Candy Crush Aka cupcake crush. This is what the was like a back yard brought. Paul, back for it. If it was candy crush then then toward like listen Paul, was there a couple of years ago the fix was in don't lie and if you were saying that the fix was in like I don't want to break anybody but that this is a little bit of maybe maybe a sore subject but this exact challenge was the challenge that Britney Engine L. got eliminated. In the amazing race thirty one, it was a head to head competition ring Rachel Riley back into this it was actually I think Rachel Riley Verses Britney in that final round where Rachel dated Britney and so you would think that this would be something that you know maybe that Britney did it in that instance but genetic has seen this before. But you know who else has seen it rob who Nicole? Yes. Yes. If she and the Beaumont Grabner Hey, listen I know competition or definitely not ranch. So do you think that that was the case? Do you think that maybe the fix was in this is something that Janelle struggles with. I don't know depending on. It wasn't a great night for case or in terms of the cops. Not a great moment for. Not. Realizing, that the base of the cupcake also. That you know Ian says basis Ph fourteen and also base is included in the competition. See I want to be like case Chaser, you should have noticed that but I'm of the camp of the cupcake rapper doesn't mean anything to me. It's the cupcake within that matter. So I can't really blame them too hard but he should have realized listened the colors they're matching here gotta make a match on the bottom as well. It was a misstep for our boy, but it's fine. It's we will forgive him because we love him but also as a harder and harder time for me to be like one of the best or one of the most capable holiday. Best. I didn't say that. No one quote me on that that anywhere. K. Sir only cares about cupcake tops does not care about cupcake bottoms he just throws them away. It's certainly possible. Certainly. There are people who have a preference of like the top or the bottom. I'M A it's all one piece to me. It's almost a one byte situation. If I'm if I'm feeling good on a good day, it's just yeah, it's the rapper. The rapper part is will what I don't need. I, feel like we're like, where are the how bad do you want it competitions like that's the kind of style competition I want to. Durance. Not necessarily endurance not like it. I'm not talking about the competitions where it's like, can you physically do it I'm talking about like? Will you do it like? Will you stand on this thing? Will you hold her? Yeah will you? Will you do your hair? Will you do whatever I mean I don't really like the like physical changes ones. But like the ones where they put you in discomfort maybe or the ones where they like pressure cooker, we say it all the time. Yes. Hold your hand on a button and convinced the people to get like that sort of thing is very interesting to watch and it. Helps because it allows the people who really want to play in the game to survive longer whereas like you know just because you can't stop the cupcake doesn't really tell me anything about your desire to be there. So I'm not a fan. Okay. Let's talk about interesting story I think heading into tomorrow night I feel like that. There has been a little bit some rumblings of potentially twists coming to big brother twenty to have any of you heard any of these rumors about twists potentially for Thursday. I'll be the first to say that I haven't. Yes. I would say, just US asking for one young. Boy yesterday we'll something new is going to kick into gear come this week because this is going to be the final week of the safety sweet, and the question is going to be what what will there be that Julie talked about in the first episode that there will be different rooms in the house that will open up. So okay, we have these safety. Sweet. What, what will be the next room to open up? The only question is going to be as. Maybe maybe they von will love. And she will leave and. We'll be kicked out probably I mean knowing things are going and she'll immediately be put into Caitlyn's puzzle room and she will complete the puzzle that Caitlin was unfortunately unable to complete engine will be put right back in the game and all is well. See we but we knew that was coming with that. We knew that there was going to be something that was that was used right that there was the there was a power APP that somebody was coming back into the game in the first four weeks that that was going to be used at some point. So the. There will not be a twist that saves. Keizer. This week like there's the odds are there will not. They'll just like introduce. Okay. This week and this new room. And this is what's going to happen but you know. I can dream and I will dream. That's what I'm dreaming. So should we take the constellation that? Okay. If it's going to be jin-ll potentially on Thursday night that the twist will be there to make sure that Qaysar doesn't go out back to back. I mean we can certainly hope for it. I don't know what I how I subscribe to that or if I do subscribe to that but I do think that. So if I'm trying to think what's the next step we've we had the safety. Sweet. With. The letter s second worst starts with the letter s what's next I feel like it's going to be like a figure out what the best word is thinking fit next to lounge. It could be like the layaway lounge, the loser's lounge word the person WHO's out just For a minute and then young's backing. Let's do it production entering listening. That you agree losers lounge you have a different one. Loser's lounge is a good one. What about? We Love You lounge where the Audi-. Bar Or on who goes into the lounging it's an awesome power. Auditorium. Not I. This is what I'm. Yeah Okay, we'll see come Thursday night if we have the opportunity to have. Any sort of influence but that's what's going on in terms of K search engine l.. At this hour we did have some other storylines going on. This was a big night for Danny de Nado. Is. I. Think so far the first episode, this season that really sort of like put her squarely on the chessboard as a player to watch out for in this game. Melissa. Accurate to what you've seen on the live feed. You feel like this Danny did not storyline was. I mean I think it's very accurate. I think I think there is a little bit more. I mean, they have to play it up a little bit for the show like Oh, she's controlling house. She's the mastermind she's in she's in charge I don't know if I would necessarily say that but the fact that she's like, yes, she's got a lot of cookie jars and all them and she's also kind of like planting with each person making them maybe start to doubt other people on the alliance without really saying it So you do get a lot of that and I will say I absolutely loved Danny in this episode, I love the room sessions like I just feel like that's what I wanna see from a player is like if you're GonNa, do that sort of like. Like I duNNo. Like backstabbing kind of Gameplay, you better go in the dining room and say you're doing it and I feel like that's what we're missing from Nicole because I think Nicole's playing a similar game and yet she's like I'm not doing anything like she'll just say like I'm not a snake I'm not a rat you're. We'll come on. We all know what you're doing like that word Melissa Doral mean to. Angle reeling. We really try. Now now see that's I want I want the players in the room saying this stuff and so having Danny do that it just shows me that like. She knows what we want. Really she knows what I want in terms of like a cutthroat player and I want to see more dire obsessions. Her I was worried that we were GONNA get diarrhea from her being like I. Just have so many allies and it's GonNa. Be Really hard to you know like betray them like I was really worried about that just like you never know what people are going to be like in the room and we haven't seen Danny like in the Dr at all this season. So this is about this was like her big showcase and I think she nailed it. You're the we got from the is like I don't like any of these people. Yeah. Same. Okay This is very much Danny Brand Danny's been one of my favorite roasters that's played the game the always been far. They've been good. The only disheartening thing for me tonight rob was realizing that Danny doesn't watch survivor because you've she did watch are up to date. She'd know the great poet one said the Queen's Days Queen and you can't just change that. So yeah, I feel like she's got it wrong there but I did enjoy getting this year and the Dr This. About this a lot in the last couple of weeks about how coming into the season Danny Denardo said, hey, alright. Genereal is the queen but I want to be that that new queen and she says in the diary room tonight. Is the big brother Queen by. Have to make sure that she goes home this week because it's time for new coronation you coronation. Wow. Okay. You've been saying this whole time that this is what she wants she wants to be the new genetic wants to yet like the number one female big brother player, and that's why we were like, why would danny go against Janette wants to work with Danny. This is like a perfect shield for her like they have a friendship outside the house. So like you extinct that that would be something she'd want to stick around. We're like I don't know it's not clicking for me, and then we were like wait that's gotta be what it is and then boom she says it. Maggie I want to ask you about something I haven't had the chance to talk about on the podcast. Are you familiar with the gym nells Finale Dress? Storyline. I was about to bring out by saw it on reddit that Danny had bought journals finale drastic this. Be to talk about is this okay. Melissa. This is okay. I think I I don't okay. So I don't my only issue with it is that I don't know where that information comes from. I know that the dresses looked the same but I don't know if it was exactly Gino's dress like that. She bought from Janelle or that it was like a like look like dress or the same dress brand just did it and wanted to wear. Okay. All right. So this is. that. A listen we're all Danny did not fans here but story is is a little weird. We're treatise, she bought it like from an ebay auction for. Like Gin put her dress up for charity mills baby six finale dress went up for auction measure of his bb six or seven. Do we now doesn't matter? Okay she put her dress up for an auction Danny Denardo bought said dress and then wore the exact same dress to the finale of BB eight. That go this Danny. Talked about this on feeds. I'm not sure if anyone clocked it but I was watching once and she was talking about with. I can't remember who she was talking about it with but she said that she was originally supposed to be cast on big brother six. She made it to finals for that but she was seventeen. So they wouldn't let her on and she was talking about how she was supposed to be on big brother six and then eventually she said like she was super happy. She was I'm Gonna I'm big like because she was too young or whatever. But I have a theory that she's always loved now and when she was on eight, she had the blonde hair I don't know I. Am Looking at the you know crystal ball or whatever. But I think maybe some validity to try to saying that there is some question about whether or not is the if it's the exact address. I'm a little. I there's there's no possible way that she didn't see wearing it and be like I like that dress I want to wear a dress like that at the finale, a tribute or just because I like it or whatever. But like. There's no way. There's no way. What I'm trying to say is there's no way that they just happen to wear the same dress and it was just like crazy. We don't know if it's the literal dress that touch Gino's body burns in life. It's we don't know the single white females situation orbits just like the question. Did it start with I. Okay. I want her dress I want to be now I have to get rid of her now I have to take over your. Okay you find a single white female situation. Replacement so it's married with married. It's different. So it's fine. You can read of each other it's fine. But yeah, it is very interesting. Also, apparently it was it was an all stars not vick brothers six but still. It's the point stands is that this is married white female. You know. issue. Is Is this anecdote illustrative of what's going on in the house right now. I think it's a little bit I feel like the whole thing is that it's been very evident that Danny and Janelle have had some extensive conversations going into this house but I do think the more and more getting close to the Swansong of L. on big brother twenty two it's been evident that Danny has kind of been. I feel like has been waiting for this moment for a hot minute. Feel like she I do feel like there's a genuine thought of. I get to do a dethroning here and I get to take over. So it's somewhat does represent it to me. Now the levels of like Mariah Carey's why are you so obsessed with me that I'm not sure about the dress and everything but there's there's definitely been this vibe like despite all the talk before this Danny has been wanting this moment this season I do I do feel like it's very lackluster. I just feel like it's like the Dress Melissa come on. Jane roughly. Lovely. Is, fine, but it's the situation on like I. Feel like. If she wants a big like I got Alao, it's like. It, doesn't do you any good to like. Kick someone out like the third week who wasn't trying to go against you and like you actually didn't have any part of getting her out. It was just like you're just sitting on the sidelines and someone else's taking her out. There's no drama behind it. There's no like Victoria's like I've won I've conquered. I've saved the beast you know it's like it just seems like. It kind of just falls flat I. Don't see any sort of situation where it's like Whoa. Danny. Did this because she seemingly out I mean if you're watching the show even you're just like she didn't really have any part of this. She just like has something against you now. Okay. But you know I don't know she could of waited a little bit. And had genetic show a reason that like to even want her out in the I it just. It's not thrilling to me. Does, anybody notice that Danny stands really close to people when she talks to them. Like chocolate said. She was like, wow, girl back up and I was like, Yes yes. She's always like disclosed someone like in their face I'm always like gosh personal space. Gani. Susan how else is she going to communicate her points? You know you've got to be mouth-to-mouth. She's also known as like the whisperer whisper we're talking am our levels of very light voice when she's whispering. So I think that it must be from experience. It's been two seasons and no one could hear me I need to be closer but also I do think that what certain people it's going to feel a little bit invasive of the of the personal space. Okay. This is the bubble you need to step away from the bubble a you gotta give me the distance if I can't hear you, I can't hear you. One of the things that we saw here in Tyler's h. h week was that we heard this a ton in the previously on and then coming right out of the episode. There was one reason why tyler really needed to gun for. Nominative case or engine l.. Because not only do they have my name in their miles Do not. Put Tyler's name in your mouth whatever you do. Ends out. His name was in your mouth. Does. Not like that. Stuns Oh. You don't want that. You want that smoke Maggie that tyler this is really one of his goto phrases. I better not hear my name out of your mouth nobody's let's say. Well. I think. The only name he's allowed to say is Maybe, I shouldn't say I don't want to get in trouble I don't want anyone to get in trouble but the. Only ever refers to is kids lovely girlfriend at home, and he's really like talking about other people in the house. So I would assume that he's like, why did I thought that everyone was just talking about their lives I didn't realize people be talking about me. Maybe. Don't talk about him. Don't talk about. Not even in a good way, you can't even say like I wanna work with you like nothing like not a single word of his name Yeah. Should there be a code name for Tyler in the House. I mean I would think. So I, feel like a lot of the Internet has adapted some. He's in. Kisha was doing I like call him, trevor, call him travis and that way his his name never comes out of your mouth Kisha, her mind she should with. Two steps onto something. She was on top of it. All right there was a little bit talk in this episode tonight and. Can you tell me was was this a total red herring or was there any possibility give me on a scale of one being a very acidic and strong and fourteen being so base okay. So base that case doesn't even recognize it as the bottom of the cupcake. Okay. So MEMPHIS needs to go on the block. Okay. MEMPHIS should be tyler's target this week cody should use the veto and we should get out. MEMPHIS. Are you saying on this should have been mover that had any. Was London a real thing at all? Not. Not. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. MEMPHIS. Definitely was a dummy, right? We we knew this I think is. That I think the fact that he did so poorly and didn't think things through that people thought throw the thing even though he won the thing shows it. But despite all of that, no one's looking at Memphis of anything it the way he handled himself on the way everything went last week that made him even less of a target less than anything anyone needs to care about for the moment from the minute tyler one this it was very much similar to Derek wedding has to take out Devon. Bb Sixteen, it's a house move everyone will be okay with this I get to have accomplished show my group. Hey I've got your backs I can put the two targets up one of them goes on that. I can try to fade into the background. So it was a non-starter now do I think if the veto was used Memphis have gone up I don't even know if that would have been the case I think that would have been some conversation. There were other people that would have been there before him. But it was fun to watch nonetheless tonight. Maggie didn't Memphis. Throw the veto. I mean I really hope so like I hope. But like what was he i? Agree we all watched that clip of him literally having to move one piece to the other and then moving it all around when you have enzo thinking that you through competition like that might be a bit like what? What's going on here because Enzo his season you know everybody thought he was throwing competitions when he just really couldn't win. So when he's always the one who like I think you might be throwing this like i. hope emphasis was otherwise he just did a terrible job. I think Memphis would tell us if you start. An is the same guy who like went to sleep on the exercise ball the other night. Yeah I definitely think he would've settling in the DR I mean at least like that would make him look better like otherwise it's just like Oh. Yeah. I was really bad like I just feel like he would have said something he was throwing it but like I. I thought watching him that he was throwing it so. I don't know. Why Now That's the thing he ultimately did even if he was stalling for general either you commit to the throat or you. So no way I think he's just a big dummy and he didn't realize that he had everything in the middle right and Jank. Got Some nothing if he was actually throwing the competition like, but then decided to just move forward and knock Chanel outlived. It accomplishes nothing aside from making him look sketchy. So I think he better not have been throwing it and if he was, he didn't even do a good job of throwing it Yeah. But a bag saw everybody led by Danny being like you know what Memphis totally through that veto competition you tell. I said I hope he did how embarrassing right you're trying your hardest with cupcake thing and like you know you're trying so hard to get it done and the entire house is like wow, he did so bad he definitely through. I think that the speaks to. A big problem with what Memphis did in that veto competition where he threw it so bad and now all future failures are memphis is totally is throwing competitions. I think now you know that is the fact that the presentation was horrendous and then you look at his situation last week where he wanted to. So now wall this guy could win to that we can go captain clutch why can't he do it now the he must be trying to pretend he's not good anymore to offset its threat level because he just want an veto back to back. So yeah, and his age Oh, week he sketched. Out and then he that really terrible performance which was an obvious throw and now nobody trusts memphis with anything and he's an easy person to plant more denardo seeds. Against Okay. All right. 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No questions asked, and that's all that magic spoon dot com slash rha use Promo Code Art J. P. for Free Shipping and thanks again to magic spoon for sponsoring this podcast now back to the recap. We saw a little bit also tonight Melissa with the Bailey and Danny Denardo relationship which I liked because I think that this is really the first time that we've seen any interaction on the show between Bailey and anybody else except. Dave on that. Is this a real relationship at all in terms of what you've seen on the feeds? I mean not having aware of I don't know I feel like I don't trust it i. think that Bailey's closest relationships in the house are. Obviously we all know that but keizer and Jean like especially journal. I don't really see her interacting with I. Mean she interacts with other people but I don't really see like a truly like a game connection with anyone else really. I mean David but even we don't even need to get into that like David is on some other planet. But you know I I don't I don't personally I mean if people are thinking from this that Bailey and. Danny are going to be working together. I, I don't see that happening. Okay fortunately because that'd be great but. It would be great. Ultimately, we don't get to see what Bailey would do if she had won the power of veto because she's not she's not going to have and I'll have to wait for another day but let's let's talk about some of the stuff that went on with in l.. Let's let's talk about genetic roles beauty routine. Here we learn about something I've heard about the term I've never seen it in practice, but Janelle is going to be experiencing something known as a vampire facial. Official. The music. Okay. All right. Maggie the you know about the vampire facial. Have that have that exact. The'll it's eleven dollars or something like that. From the ordinary great. You should really only use it once a month because it does absolutely like. Anything on your skin but it's great every single time I use it I take a picture and send it to all my friends because it looks like there's blood all over mates. Okay. All right. So general, she has a cream for for everything in in the house. And I have the same because we have to say, I have like I have so many I'm not even forty, but I have so many various creams they take over the bathroom you know. A cream for everything official cream for everything I agree with you now I get it. Okay. All right. So she is going along and she's talking with E. N. N. is a Muslim we say is he being an alarmist about the Ph level of? Vampire facial honestly I don't know I haven't tried that facial. So I mean. Maggie. Says Good. But you know if I if I was be freaking out just because I would trust in just because it sounds like he knows what he's talking about an easy smart guy and if he's sitting there worried for me, I'm like, okay, please don't ruin my face. entrusted. Union was freaked out. Now, he was like that's. Of that acid is ph three point six. Like oh so it's three point six percent acid and ends like no. Definitely not. Closer to the other end very close hydrochloric acid. In your experience. How dangerous is that vampire? Facial? So there was a time that I put on the vampire facial and I, went to go to the bathroom to rinse it off. One of my roommates was in the shower and I did have to wash it off in my sank over the dirty dishes because you can't. Certain amount of time. I had literally be like Oh Gosh I have to get it on now because if you leave it on for more than like ten minutes, you can burn your skin. So you know. With care. Let Me Blessed Mary scary to me a comment from one of our people in the Chat Mandy. As a chemist this. Is, completely safe. L.. Well, we were team of scientists that fact check all the podcasts. Just. What you have to have that we don't want to say anything wrong. We do a lot of science talk and you know we gotta make sure we're not telling. Time a ton of sinus. And we'd like to make sure. Ian was talking about his. Personal Hygiene Regimen and I would love to know let's play a game called. Is it? Kidding or kidding not kidding with, Ian? Terry. Okay. Let's find out is this is this a joke or Ian is? Telling the to a straight. I think the most hydrogen from my own beauty is some laser hair removal on my chest and back. Okay. All Right Maggie. Is. The ultimate debt pan or Is e insincere that the only part of his beauty regimen is laser hair removal on his chest and back? You Know I. Know that laser hair removal is a bit expensive and and did win half a million dollars so The not going through your what do you think? I, mean I feel like Ian. I would argue is one of the more sensible win. So think he was more smart with the money that he got, but the way he said it I definitely do think that he must have done it because obviously the alternatives are to wax or to use the wax cream or like the the wax strips, those will be more of a painful situation I feel like Ian, the I want to go with the pain less and less hassle free. Let's say he did I'll say it. was what he thinks sweep it. Look all I'm saying is that there were some rumors going around when he first appeared on the season that may be that grey streak is dive and that is a beauty routine and I feel like if he's saying the only beauty routine, he does this laser hair removal amine that grey streak looks. Really Nice. Is it perk to perfect maybe to be real? That's saying. I'll say that. If there's one episode of Big Brother All Stars that I hope that Dr Will Kirby is watching this is the one I need him to weigh in on. Genetic Vampire facial one because that he is a vampire correct. That's really what the rumors have been over many years and then to. Did, he give Ian the hookup for the laser hair removal. Wow. Many Questions this episode clearly was really focused on game play and strategy. We have so many very important topics to get to here. In the words of case. Well. This is an absolute disaster. Game of thrones music. Yes. In case. The brings the drama. Okay. Should. We talk about Christmas and her baby's? Oh Yeah. Yes we shall. We should. Okay. Man You would. You make this punishment is this what you're here for for big. Brother. This is the epitome of were. More. Let's cheek. UNFORTUN-. I'm very sad that this punishment went to someone as a uncharismatic as Christmas not to be Christmas Hater I. do think she brings other things to the show but I don't think her diary room sessions or like her stunning wit are one of them and I'd like I wish Damon, had gotten this punishment because can you imagine Devan Gr's about this but I do think that Christmas look like a drowned rat going around to the room thing my babies are so cute. With worse the entire hour-long episode for me. Honest. Yeah This was sort of like the. Seventh Grade Project, where they make you take care of an egg to sort of teach you the responsibility of what it's like to have a baby to sort of also like, Hey, like just. Teenagers this is not fun. Okay. Remember that everybody. But to a woman that actually has a real baby shouldn't this have been kind of lay up. It was until things happen is a one star baby. It's fine. We're joking Hey Enzo your dad one star baby. I believe one of the reviews left on Memphis restaurant. I believe those one and then I believe it was one with no kids. You know what I'm saying we're. Talking. Zero. Then the fact that she had to name all of them right and I I listened to the names. All themed around Big Brother. Note. But. And, I do not understand of all the names of all the biedny vocabulary. Why is back door? One of the names you pick for this star baby had poor baby. But. There are better names out there wasn't one of them named twinkle or something I. Heard it. But what does that have to do? It's she's look that. Journal Galveston twinkle Smith's has a thing against people that give babies creative names. Okay. That this woman has been scarred. Okay. By once upon a time somebody's like, Oh, I've got a real outside the box idea for a name. Okay. She's Kristen's like nope. I'm going although her that. I guess she also has passed on some outside of the box names. But this is big brother. Big Brother Christmas is basic like this is very much like the whatever whatever she's looking at that. That's a baby name. Also. Oh. I was just going to say I'm very happy that Enzo and Christmas are showman saying the way that I predicted preseason and I hope that we can get there showmances name to be Dwight Christmas Toy crepes. Yeah I like. Moved you already saved Christmas maybe we could get to white Christmas yeah. Maggie I don't know about Enzo as a real dad but if this is any indication of what ends, those real life parenting could be like not surprised that. The the first Mrs Enzo might have said Okay maybe I'll. See. You later. You know. Who who knows what the story is there what I can say is she missed out on quite a quite a rap. Prodigy. So that's all I have to say about that. Not to panic Mike Bloom is I know he's listening so. The other thing yeah. That's what I'm getting at the other thing I was thinking about because this is a regular big brother. But what are the things I find weird about it Here's the weird thing. Someone is on the payroll CBS to get on the MIC and say as a star baby say mommy bounced me on your lap again that is a sad unfortunate for whichever crew member has been tasked with. Hey, yell out the stuff you need. We need Christmas to do as if you're the star baby and said out loud on the microphone for thousands to hear. Yes, like this. Yeah. So someone someone is getting compensated to do this throughout the week, which is like I commend you but also I feel for you Yeah. I will say I really I thought it was funny how they kept adding babies I. Just I liked I feel like it's like I really went initially when the punishment happen I thought it was just going to be one baby and I was like okay. Well, this is GonNa get dolled but I just thought it was greyhound they just kept adding babies and making it more and more frustrating and annoying for her was great. So. Many babies for Christmas. I have to say they got me last week where the the punishment with Ian Having to do the play. But this week I saw this coming a mile away once against the veto ceremony. Yeah every time. They have to change it up and not do it every time because then it's not funny anymore it's the it's the same thing. They do every single time. It's like you know the person telling about the conflict I have to win this because I'll again I'm gonNA. Win This and then boobs and then they fall and it's just like okay. Yeah, it was funny the first. Time I wonder do you think that if the power of veto was going to be used maybe they would have a little bit more reverence for the moment but they're like boy, this is going to be another dud nobody's using. All right. Perhaps. But I also think that we're not giving the big brother producers enough credit because I do think they are brilliant comedians and thank you know and if something's bro or something isn't broke, we shouldn't try and fix it and you know Tony House with a are thinking. Maybe the rest of the season, we'll get punishments or wacky things going on it veto ceremonies Okay. Thank. Janette is GonNa make a pitch to cody that she goes to his room. She says like basically look here. Keep me. Let's target the floaters. If You keep me I will vote with you for the next two weeks. Janelle tells us just how grew to the deal this is. Tony, the deal of a lifetime. Puja will you classify will vote with you for the next two weeks here of big brother all stars is that is that the deal of a lifetime? That's like trying to be like, Hey, so I've this great car for you and just because you're my favorite customer, I'll throw in an air freshener for the for the hood like no, you're not spicing it up enough. There's not enough. You're not selling. This is it's a little bit how a half baked idea of like, Hey, so I'm. Yeah. I'm not keeping you save. I'M NOT GONNA. NAM who. I'll just. Vote the direction you're voting twice like. It's not, but also on the other hand if I may. Cody the California's actually let both of them in here. Doctors you really wasn't trying to act like this was a good deal either at least. Hey Maggie, can you please put some respect on the Caliph era name and tell you about some of the acting work that I know you are a fellow Thespian that the code cal theory has been part of He was in a movie where he played Dad of a girl who was my age probably so he was like. So. Movie, where he's a dad of like a teenager Yup. And he was like was like a military dad. But by age like if we were looking at it, he would have had to have her when he was like nine. Wow. Casting directors do weird things. Even look old, he doesn't. Facial. Oh come on. Czar. polly also does some some onscreen work. Say, I maybe it runs in the blood of this name of the cody movie. Looking up because I just I saw the trailer recently and I don't want to knock acting too much. But I've been online feed updates with ten times more views than this guy's trailer. Okay just saying. A lot in post production, go on movies in the CAN. He does he's he's dabbled dappled scaffold. Okay. What was what movie of this? Team is it Not Clinton road. The chats. GonNa come through with this one but he is in a movie called the Clinton wrote as well All right. So there you go. All right. Ironically. In Clinton Road, do you know what? The name of the character cody Califor- place Please let it be Dwight. It's tyler. GINAL. Because the not only. Do they have my name in their mouths watch out cody. Robert called little cupid little. Cute it. Okay. Check that the TV series. Through the TV series, not a not a movie. Was it like a limited like a TV movie I think perhaps. Boy, this seems a little dark little Cupid TV series. A little girl is visited by her father WHO's trying to earn his wings to get into heaven. He's Dad. Forgotten. Spoiler alert forgotten how? Did he die did he die as a younger man and then? Is that what's going on? Dr. I mean I. I was just reporting on the photos that. I'd sorry. Wow, all just need to watch it. Report Guy Looking at. Twenty two is depressing. This sounds Sounds real depressing. All Right? Okay. We'll say anything else from the episode before getting questions. I like seeing the conversations between Jon. Allen case there. It's Nice on sees the gun and you know seeing them talk about their friendship that was really nice I feel like. We didn't really get a game play this episode but I think that's because there really wasn't that much game played to show. It kind of just seemed like. There was really no chance that the veto was going to be used and people kind of already have their minds made up as to what they were going to do starting from the beginning of the weekend. That's kind of just the way the episode. Presented A, and that's I mean they presented that there were options but there really wasn't and so you know I'm not surprised that we didn't get a more thrilling episode but you know Megi, are. You surprised that there had been more blowups this week between Janelle in Col- F. I really have been surprised it. I mean on one hand Nicole asks doesn't Lo a confrontation but on the other hand like Jean said like she does. So I've been very surprised that Jeana hasn't gone after Nicole in house and I've been waiting for it which is like it's it's pretty sad that we don't get to see Nicole immediately run away and start crying that she was so mean to her she can't believe she would do this but she invited to her wedding. Wedding, you know something I will say that I'm not thrilled about with the episode. Is that Nicole really going with the Nicole narrative where it's like journalists mean to me and I'm so glad we're getting her out of the house she's been. So mean to me this whole time which like no, she hasn't. She hasn't done anything to you if anything like you're the one who started everything by. Calling. Her out when you made her have not so like I don't know what Nicole is talking about and they're not showing any evidence to dispute it. In in the episode. So it kind of is just like. Okay like. It seems like we just must not be seeing a probably I mean since there's nothing to say otherwise, Juno must be being mean to Nicole but really like that's not the case and that's the narrative that Nicole is creating. So it's a little bit frustrating that still being portrayed I mean I don't think people are falling for it but like it would be helpful to not run with that. So Do you know the shot tonight. The only other option. Because she sucks. Classic. unbothered like she doesn't even care to come up with a more a better. We know go on all now. Okay. Let's take some questions here. What you guys had to say about this episode. All right Let's bring questions from the chat. Okay. Big. A from Iowa says who would date these people after reading some of these baggage tags Sky I think that this is a question from Love Island. Last night. Do not believe this is a big brother twenty three, twenty three. Am I missing something completely? Bad Fair Question Fair question a lot tagging. Luggage. Okay. All right. Hit by a car claire says, should the makers of journals vampire facial be paying CBS for product? Should be paying Maggie. The orange and say. Yes. Okay. So check that out and say works Maggie. It does you should treat it on your face before you do it to make sure that it won't give you inflammation but for me, it's awesome. All right. Then let's go to Liz Beth who says our our veto comps like this unfair. I feel like Jason would have more of a chance if they all competed at the same time come on Lisbon. All right. We all wanted case genetics do good. They didn't have a chance anyway this was a layup. This wasn't cupcake literally. Fix cupcake. Yeah you know Jon Allen Case are supposed to be the smaller ones they're supposed to be able to run circles around some of these dummies. Gay I don't like I don't really like competitions where it's like you do a head to head Masha and then you kind of move onto the next round or whatever. Just because I feel like it kind of eliminates drama like especially, if the people they need to win the veto get out in the first round or second round or whatever, and then it's like okay. So now we're kind of just. Like watching people compete who don't really need to win who don't really care about winning it, and then it's Kinda just like it defeats like any of the the tension or the drama. So you know I'd prefer everyone's competing at the same time or they do the individual time things then reveal them very dramatically. You know something like that, and then the the unfair way would have been if it was. Okay to people randomly get drawn play and then the winner picks the next tooth because then no matter how you look at it most likely if Jon, Allen Cases Somehow managed to not be the first going in they would have been the first to put a next back right next to each other challenging. So then they would have just had to keep going and going which sometimes does help depending on. The competition, but I think in this scenario, it was a random draw. They didn't face each other. So that's good for them. They technically both had a shot at this case Sir just didn't even look the rapper respect but Janelle had a chance against dummy Memphis was being and messing up anyways and still didn't get it done. They are heroes but sometimes, our heroes are not amazing. Yeah and just sat but. If you were hoping for competition that case or would be able to win I mean, this would have been like as close to the top of the draft as you probably would have gotten so. You got to win a cop Y- especially janelle copies. You got to win one of these. Okay. Let's take a question from Jacob Kramer wants no out of the three punishments which one was the worst for them or for us. Now, do you have any thoughts on which? What was the? What would of those punishments? Do. I think Christmas is just because. How could I explain that to any of my family or friends back home? How am I supposed to describe what I had to do and? It's just at least with ends like you can have fun with it Jim. Now. Put on her batons and she strutted around the spar like Christmas it's like I'm changing stuffed animal diapers. Making sex, jokes about. person who is just a lot to it would just. Offer me. Now we have seen already in the season journal in a literal star. Costume Ian is in a star wars parody there is a brand new, a new a star is born. We basically turned that into a punishment. So Le Let's just dump out the bag right now. Okay. What are the other star challenges? Are we going to have star Jones punishment somebody the. you know say you're how you're a lawyer all the time. Are we going to have some sort of like a competition of like some sort of like a Hollywood walk of fame? Well, what are the other star things we're going to do because this is all stars get it. Scott Game, Star gazing, would we do some sort of a competition of memory competition look at the wall? Yes something. starfish. Fish okay. Rockstar ask. Or part of the doors box kind of thing comes in and yells at somebody I would like that that'd be cool. Let's see hitting stars basketball. Yeah. Okay. Shooting Star that's a good one. So I think we're just GONNA go through all of the Star Puns. A. Turns of phrase that we can possibly find. Okay I mean. Stars, they shine shine bright shine, bright Leka frankie own Frankie Grandes outs. guerande `Grande starbucks lots tastes, starbucks latch. Like okay. See all coming together and all coming together. You accurately predicted last Wednesday the zoom competition. So we before that who knows anymore they're all bundled together, but you predicted that and so now one of these ideas I guarantee it. Is Tune in you'll see one of these. All right. Let's go to Tara who. Asks What you name your star babies. Tell you what I wouldn't name the star. Baby are did that Let's say, let's say has I'm trying to keep it big brother themed because. That would probably be the movie especially if if somebody were same production did name on. So let's say that what would I want is what we're saying here I would say that I wouldn't mind naming my kid pressure like pressure cooker because here's why my kid is not going to be in trouble under pressure. If I sit underneath pressure that's the only time under pressure otherwise I'm fine pressure is a good one I like cooker as well. 'cause you don't mess with Cooker Cooker will cook you so I like that as well. Right. Yeah Yeah My stars after past big winners or name it after people in the House and then I know either be nicer means them if I liked her Dan like them or if they are making me mad. All right. You. Name Them. I would name my the first one, one, the second one giant, the third one mosquito. Job Okay all right Let's take another question. This one is from Anna if David could give you podcast advice. Wove which say, okay, this is a little bit more of a lively question because David was invisible in this episode David got less screen time than genitals vampire facial. So I think it's probably better for him. Yes. Better yeah, we'll. We'll such David where we get to talking about life stuff. Okay. Chandler wants to know was meant this really trying to throw the veto journal or is he just gotten sluggish in his old age? I do love that the narrative is become that Memphis is literally. Sixty four years old. The narrative is he's an old man and he is not. Not. All like, I. Don't know where that's coming from it. Like makes me scared but you know. It's not the years. It's the mileage for Memphis. Okay. Let's take. From Med ever the baby segment we ship Christmas and Enzo or is it just me? Okay. Maggie you give a big thumbs up to Christmas and zonal. Love it. Dwight Christmas. Here for it I hope he makes shirts. Yeah. Is there any possibility that this is a romantic connection and we saw we we saw Christmas I'm very enzo talking about how thirsty he was recently We talked about that a couple of weeks ago. So it's Christmas spoken for I. I WANNA say not at. Not at the moment feel like she was she was at some point but I don't think that's the case. Now of anyone can correct me if I'm wrong. But do I see them as a as an ideal pair I've seen weirder pairs. I feel like this is something that could work I don't mind it also might I say I would prefer maybe Christmas squall over Enzo Christmas or what we said earlier Dwight Christmas maybe a Christmas qual- is what I'm here for. Christmas squall. I what would they? So here's the thing. Do you think that? Enzo. Would rap for the star babies that would have been a missed opportunity. We didn't get I feel like we should have gotten that Iraq by rap. Okay Mindy in the chat again, don't know if we can verify this Christmas does have a boyfriend. Okay. Okay but look that might not last. You know. Anything can happen relationships are hard they. Okay. Let's take another question. Alissa Smith says, was it just me or every time Christmas did cupcake magic as the host of the veto comp the music was a Christmas Carol up on the rooftop is that public domain? Okay can't help themselves. Yes. Literally can't help themselves. They will put anytime. Christmas, is there some sort of holiday reference and or song or bills or anything that is that they can't they can't. Shoot Christmas Eve named her babies like Blitzen Donner. Rudolph Thought of that. They would have that would be. Okay. All right Let's see. One more question. We'll talk about some live. Okay. All right. This is from NEETU. Says, could Christmas win this thing? She's by far the best position the House has secret final twos with both tyler and Nicole, and she's a new mom. So she could definitely win a jury vote. Okay. Should we talk about the? How realistic it is for Christmas to win this competition. Is. I just feel like it's hard to stay because she absolutely could win like totally I could see her winning. I don't think she's playing a good game I. think that you know she's well positioned, but there's just so much more game left to play that it's hard to say. Yes or no I mean yes she could win for sure. But do I think she is going to win I don't know. To me hear me out. I don't know if Christmas is a long haul type of player I. think she keep it together for a while but I think that you know sixty days in sixty five days in I. Think we're getting Cranky Christmas at some point. I. The thing is with Christmas. Everything is going Christmas way right now, every the stars not her babies but the ones in the in the air have aligned and she's been in a good path right now, all the people that she's been good with are kind of in a good spot. She's she's got these finances and people who have played the game are experienced. Know what they're doing. She's Pretty much focused on getting that social game talking to as many people. She's gaining the trust of people I do feel it coming in. You know we talked about a lago talk about preseason well, someone like David who is coming in as an unknown entity someone who went out early? Can they stand at the be like I'm deserving of an all-star season when maybe not I think Christmas is. Someone who's pushed through that she's made the final three before whether we raised her game or not she won a foot race without a foot. So it's kind of one of those things where I do think that she's putting herself in a good position here but I very much on what you're saying rob where like Christmas is also known to get mad when things don't go Christmas his way. And this is only week three of a marathon. So we'll see what happens is the wrong person wind puts her up as upon because they're like a Christmas is great with everybody and then it's no longer Christmas. Joyous Christmas rage yet it could happen we could be talking about it being gone a different direction right now it's looking decent. Okay. All right. Now, what do you think about that? I. Hope if she blows up on Nicole, it'll be so funny. Yes. Yes please. Okay, we'll say she'll get uninvited from the wedding. Christmas. Do we know that the date for the big wedding. Zik right after the season is a close. I. Think. So I think she said sometime in November ensure the chat will. Okay. All. Right. Let's yeah. coming up. All right. Let's talk about our live feeds, and as we look ahead towards Thursday night, we will have addiction whether it will be keister or genucel. We'll check in on the vote and all the other drama going on at the Big Brother House of you're bouncing out. Now, we'll be back again live on Thursday night at nine fifteen pm eastern until then. Let's say about the spoilers. Office of Civil Defense has issued the following message. Is Spoiler warnings spoiler warning means that This has been detected and that protective action should be taken. All right. Let's talk about the Spoilers Melissa. Genetic going home by by Jamie. It seems likely I mean look anything can happen if anybody can pull sign off I think Jamaica, but it just seems like nobody is receptive to it, and if you're talking to a brick wall. Nothing's really GonNa Change and I think that is the problem hypothetically if John did stay. What is that look like? I mean I feel like it looks the same. The highest, it's basically eleven zero, one way or the other. I do think that the wage and AL stays if something happens and the House and majority alliance is like. We need to flip this around. Let's get everybody on the same page and we're all GONNA, flip it like I don't see a situation where a small group gets together and like we're GonNa flip this on Ted, we're going to keep Gina. We're not going to tell the other people like it's GonNa be a split vote like I just don't see that happening unfortunately. Okay. But cases stays that's that's. The thing is like is like I want them both to say so it's not like it's not like I'm like, oh no we. We we have to stick with Kids I. Love Qaysar and I'm excited to see him play because we've never seen him play without Gino. We've seen in without Keizer, but we've never seen cases game without genetic. So like honestly either one saying is good to me just because I, really love them both in I'd love to see them both by so obviously, I would love to have them ball stay but. Putting this moment from the episode that. Cut and we haven't listened to you yet. Never been in this house talk to you. That's crazy. That's why if you would just chill out, maybe you've got a good shot. I, can't do that. So, try to burn the house down. And I'M GONNA be pissed this time because you're going to be gone. So. Then maybe vengeful, that's not nice and flat who the whole house. All of them. It would be such a great story line to have some sort of like You Know Natalie Anderson Jeremy Collins type storyline wary that. Is going to now. Find you got rid of. Other better big brother examples like Dr will in big brother two of okay. Fine I'm going to just. Link up with you guys but I'm Never GonNa Forget what you did. Yeah I. think that's what it is. Yeah. Do you think that Janelle gets Qaysar worked up at all? I feel like it's one of those things where you know we all have that one friend from back in the day when you hang out with them, you're the exact same person. You were ten years ago twelve years ago some that vibe doesn't change between the two of you feel like there's there's a better that they're obviously, I, think without him having someone he trusts so. Much to like talk scorched earth like this with them. It might be a different different pacer but I think obviously see in his core he is who he is. The problem is every time he played big brother he's been in the same position is now. So he's he's that's his regular goto without genetic there. There's still there's a small percentage has optimism for me because here's the thing right? Obviously sad that the two of them are on the block and one of them are going. Am I happy that going out of the to? Yes. But for one main reason, and that's the fact that honestly if Janelle stays, she's going next week no matter what on less you exit, there's wiggle room with case there there's a little bit of like people have been trying to pick them up in this last week and like some of them think they've got him, they can control him they can. Use Him. So there's a smidgen of hope and getting to see even a week of case with our General I. Mean I would like to see if it's the exact same like he is regularly that still getting more Qaysar but also it's getting keizer without geno seeing how he would fare without her would be nice since we've never had that Nagy also, Gino will be much better on social media right? Oh wait cannot wait. Graham lives involve Rachel. INSTAGRAM lives right. The tweets will be on fire. I love. Her. Yeah. I said this on the BNB like gee now when Geno played the first time I'm tires age. So when do you play the first time? I was ten Sorry. I was so I didn't see her like I didn't start watching until thirteen and so getting I only ever watched the edited show. So I don't think that I understood like the incredible nece that is Janelle and watching her on these speeds and seeing how unbothered she is. She's just so awesome. I love her I would watch her on every single season I. Love Her so much. Okay. We'll see. All right. Let's talk about Any other story lines from? The. House sky. Padilla of your finger on the pulse of the latest happenings with the Saga of David and Tyler. Yes. Yes. I have I have caught up catch up to get ready to talk about it because. And listen. We had a mastermind. We had a genius to grace us in big brother history big brother Lore it was raven. Step aside Raven. Your stories over there's a new sheriff rape and right and it's it's it's the one and only. The credit man himself David. So now David's new to the see David's out here. He thinks he's figuring stuff out and David kind of like an auditor because Davis whole thing is whether you have good credit or not this week David is going out of his way to figure out Hey Janelle your credits not been good. I, don't trust anything three weeks safety forget you your credit is not good case if you stay I'll keep it a state but I'm GonNa need your credit to be something different last night all of this saying happened this Is All factual dated went a step further and said how can I couldn't make some more difficult for myself as a as a person with no target on me because I'm new and no one really rates my game that no one really thinks I'm anything I know let me go to the one person that's been going back from the house my back this definitely GonNa take me far this good player that knows how to navigate. Let me take information. He's given me and give it to someone else and then, and then here's the best part. And then confessed to it and be like hey. I told Dave on this she got cornered I told her tyler I told her of what you said to me about the whole targeting situation and now tyler's met and tell you if you can find this clip on twitter of tyler getting irritated with David after. Come on man why did you do that? You need to watch still finding he liked throws because he's like Wait. So did you tell her about that and he's like she got it out of me and he's like. Tell her I said it and he's like, yeah, and he's Come on man he's rose their emo-, on the better so. Curb his forehead. So because it's just like you never really see Tyler get worked up and he's just like. I it's like okay. It's not good that you told her because that slake. And then it's like, did you tell him that I was the one? WHO said it? Yeah I did that too. Yes. I definitely linked you up with this like it's like, Oh my God. You couldn't have made a worse move at this point so bad. But do we know that the fallout from this is that that is tyler potentially in trouble is David potentially in trouble. Potentially, in trouble I mean everyone's potentially in trouble but it seems like Tyler has done a good job of smoothing things over for himself however now, David or now tyler in cody are. This Guy David, we can't trust them. We got we do about this guy so like even. Before. This moment they thought of him as a potential ally someone wanted to work with. All. That now they're like he's a loose cannon like we don't know where his hands I'd like who's GonNa tell the like he's totally unpredictable we can't keep around. You. Viral tweet. From yesterday of. Would you would you care to read it if I brought it up on the screen? Wow this aiding rob back well. This was a great moment that Melissa Danny tweeted I'm sorry I was wrong. This tweet has two hundred, seventy eight re tweets and forty four hundred likes. Wow, what a ratio, Pat. Gray ratio but you know it's it's it's a sad moment for me. You know it's like it's like I. I had to do some reflection and I looked inward and I just realized that like it. I had to come forward and say this and I wouldn't feel good about myself or my situation if I didn't own up to my errors and I just felt like this notes up was the way. To do it that's the way. Everyone does it right? So I just felt like I had to come forward and apologize to the community and you know to mind twitter followers and just like the big brother fans. Wear did you give David seven in the stock washes was this season or last season? This is last season giving seven. He was the already voted out of the game. It was I believe I believe in tearing correct me if I'm wrong on this but I do believe this was after the show. Yeah. There we go. Post show. Joe Overall Gameplay. Or what we thought they would do on a future season like we took that into account like how they played and everything, and so you know what? It does not make it right Maggie. I know you'll love the characters of Big Brother Has David officially become a character yet yes I have a whole backstory worked out for him. Okay. So we as fans right so imagine a big brother twenty one was tough. So we is friends like we've gone through a big break-up right and we are trying to get into The Big Brother Twenty one cans or like if we're going to use this as a metaphor, just like you and your life, you've gone to this really big break up and you're sad about it and you're trying to get back on your feet and you're trying to go back out with people and you're like, you know what I would. Date with a guy, before I met the person that have been dating date with two years ago. Misjudged him I don't think that he was as bad as I thought he was extent guy and you go and you meet him and not only is he as bad as he thought he was he's infinitely worse and he shows up like. Crazy like gets the wrong restaurant address that you're waiting an hour and a half her hand when he finally shows up he like 'cause you the wrong name like he's worse than you thought he was. And you're left to go home and reevaluate all of your decisions and realize what you might like. You might have to texture ex-boyfriend in say like I'm sorry like it doesn't get any better than this I guess. It's But the ex boyfriend in the original analogy is big brother twenty one we're probably not going to go run back to that. No I. Maybe, we're perhaps on be true. Yeah. Last week you know like Maclean Anthony we were get her out of here. Let's see what David can do. Now we've seen what David can. We should. We should have had Nicole Anthony come back 'cause you would've whereas the era of her ways you know. So yeah, that's my David analogy. Yeah. Yeah How much of the seating, we're GonNa see on the show tomorrow. I mean, my heart says, give me at all I want all of it I, need the I need the dough music I, need the Dr's of like man what is what I need I need this is the one store and they can actively give David I think for a while. So they need to utilize it. However, we're going to see not a lot because I do think we're GonNa see more of the. Campaign trail we're going to see the Jenolan Qaysar Goodbye I'm GonNa Miss You. Let's talk about let's keep in touch more. After the season's done, we're going to see more of that we're GONNA see Generic Dewar Scorched-earth Dr That's what we're going to focus on I'm of okay with it because like it's the end of an era in a way. But then if we're going to have some some comedy segment instead of a day segment or or a baby star segment, give me the dummy David segment. That's what I think there's a possibility that we get a a segment of him or of genetic trying to campaign to him and Having him being like well, you know I know I, don't think. I mean there is so much that they could. They could cut it to it's like an hour long. But essentially, like you know especially the part where she's like offering him like I think you and me and Bailey and Devan could work together. Don't you see any benefit and keeping me around like doing that and he's just like no I see no benefit and it's just like. Oh. My God wouldn't draw with you. It's still proposes an alliance or something. You don't just say no, you say like you know that's interesting. Okay. Even if you don't have to necessarily agree to swear on it or anything like I can just be like, whoa. Okay. That's interesting. Proposition math think about it. Hindu it is just all bad. Okay. Do. We know how much the contestants are going to be vying for. Tomorrow night has there been a lot of talk about people throwing versus people going for it. I think there's some people that are definitely in the I'm okay. So I'M GONNA throw it camp I think Danny's immediately be like dead. He's not going to try and win this short Danny's out feeling good. H. O. H though. Oh my days So if David Show was to happen rob. To Maggie. I I. Don I don't like it. Just I love the humor of it but like. I know that he's GonNa do something stupid. So he's going to say, okay, we got put on the block and you know I wanNA teach Dave on a lesson about you know not revealing or whatever like going to put day on the block just teacher lesson but she's not going to go home because cases the target. So you know that's fine and then we either have cancer divinely leaving on David's Hoa and we'll all be infuriated so I just As funny as it would be to see him, get eight to China's which he absolutely will, and we we all know it. I just don't want the end result. Don't you remember how funny festes Hoa Chua's though like we were straighted. I. Take any of that for me. Hear me out though I feel like that. This next situation is going to be a that barring say like Cody Enzo Christmas. Outside of those three like, I, think we're kind of going to get an interesting situation. No matter what this week right? It's possible. especially, if cases stays, it's possible. The Worry Rob David is that I like I said, David just is like your boat to the bar now doesn't trust any of them has feelings are hurt about the previous week so. I just don't want the history of was. In his ear I think they would I don't believe that it would be David making his picks there I think it would be. We would see what tyler wants to do with this cat's paw. Steph possible w possible and and I do think that there is again there's a better chance for case or next week potentially than there would have been of general state but yeah, would think ultimately I just don't want the history books to show here lies cases fourth shot at being in the house and it was taken out by David. David the that's not at a one. Yeah. It's good for his game to get out leg. It's just not and if he wants any shot, he needs it. He's not in the big alliance now cody tyler don't trust him like they're not going to keep him around. So there's no reason for him to go after the outsiders at this point at all. I think for case or to have success long term. I. Think he's going to not win Hoa? Cheer I think that he's GonNa Sorta like get back under the radar. I think he's going to go for it and. I. Think I mean Yeah it's probably well no I think that I don't think you should throw it but I just feel long-term it'd be better if you didn't get it right away I, don't know I feel like he's at serious risk. I, just feel like he's at serious risk and I feel because it isn't easy move. For a lot of people, I, think a lot of people are not ready to do the civil war yet where you know it's like no lions turns inward that there are still some people who are like, okay. Let's like let's chill and other weeks cases easy target I don't WanNa like you know make waves. So let's just like put him up and get him out and I think. I'd that's what I worry about until I I. DO think cases there should win h h and I think that that's what we should be hoping for. Okay. All, right. Let's take a couple more questions before we start to wrap this up to your tonight. Okay this is from phase-in is memphis popular with the casual viewers. The edit almost seems to be centered around him and I see more on the episodes than entire week of feeds Maggie. What do you think Memphis his popularity is with the casual viewers Is the casual viewers villain right? Like he's the one that I really that guys mean like dumb like yeah. Everyone doesn't like him in his alliance like what's going on here with this guy? They use him as the big like villain versus you know like we're getting from Danny to Nano. They are all of our like negative attention to be on Memphis anyone else. MEMPHIS. Heat. This guy we sold we hate him. Skies too old too old ways. Yeah. Garb he didn't. Through the channels unions save. Okay. All right. Jar Jar Jacobs as what makes you more uncomfortable the thought of Christmas and Enzo conceiving a star baby or the thought of grown man getting in the booth and recording the voice of that star. Baby. You know probably the voice. Young concerning. Telling you. Don't on the beef and said. You don't have an actual baby asking we've balanced on the lap like it's. Not Yeah. Very specific. Take me for a walk around the house go Tom Cute, I. Am yeah. This was like the baby from dinosaurs This was not a real baby. She said not the Mama in hit Christmas with frying pan. Thank you. All right. Let's see. Uncle Terry. Who can we root for to win? Hoa Jiffy want good. Feed Next Week Bay K. Anyone, else willing to take a shot. If we want the best feeds, who should we raise for Sir? I think those would be best because then it switches things up people are nervous. You Know David Bailey don't have to worry and we don't have to worry really because it's just like you know it's just going to be scrambling between that alliance. You might see people I mean the way they were talking today was basically like, okay who are we gonNA put up and there was discussions of putting up Danny and Nicole to get them the people to turn on each other and to like what is maximum drama essentially like what is maximum chaos and they were trying to figure that out. So I mean if keizer can win and put scenario there that is maximum chaos like that is what we want. That is great. So it'll be exciting. If you want a pallet cleanser of the last three weeks. You want the case or win because that's kind of the revenge tour. We've been watching these cool kids just take down people one by one. This is where the tables get turned. This is where you know everyone's favorite friends. Those GonNa. End Up on the block. Dan. He's GonNa end up on the maybe cody. Ends up on the block of one of them wins the veto and you're GonNa see them squirm and half the battle against each other for week. Yes. Longevity Sake to change the map with the house if case it was capable of putting a new deals in position I would rate that however, I'd be a little bit scared of the wake Acer operates within Hoa. Know the Partners, fate case or we'll jump out and that's good for a week but then we Michael Back to the old. The old the next week in cases in trouble again, I would be keen. I wouldn't mind seeing Bailey win. You know I wouldn't mind seeing what Bailey has going on what she's GonNa do I think based on the conversation we've been seeing based on her link with. Janelle. There's no way she's going to get rid. Of case in this position she'll do something with it, and then maybe this is the week that case can try to reset himself into the house would still get the big align shaking a little bit. It'll see the slick six kind of nothing I would be very interested in seeing that happen. So I would be it'd be okay with the Bailey. Okay just want to update. Bradley Michael On Twitter tweeted to us to say, Ian says, he has a hand held laser hair removal machine is back as hard to reach and his girlfriend doesn't help him with it. Maggie think that Ian could recruit ENSO's aunt to live in his basement to help him with the laser hair removal. I think that that is a great idea rob. You gotTA suggest it to exit interview with him after the Shell. Yes. Okay. Just in case anybody has forgotten from way back when the premier night. Three Floor House on his into basement. Back. Yeah. Ends, that's why he hates winners winners have laser hair removal machines that he's got to do it old school with the razor. He's GonNa Win Yeah. Case get that laser. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's see a anything else. James also, if you guys were tyler and cody, would you've taken the deal that she proposed to you and why we didn't talk about this? Should they be have taken the Journal I personally think that they are making a mistake by getting rid of this week right? There I absolutely. Think they're making a mistake getting rid of this week. She's a huge target in front of them and she would be a shield and if should they could link up with her she has nobody. I, mean yes. She Has Bailey and possibly day bond and she has keizer. But if case relieves this week, she has no one she needs to find allies and if you can be. Our allies, she can be a field for you. She will still be charged she will always be a target she's journal. So I. Mean there was a video going around this week on twitter with that showed this should have been what happened this week and it showed in all stars when chill town was like we have to keep Geno, we have to save Geno. We have to keep your hair because. Every time because when Gino's in the house, she is a shield virtual town and it's like, why is that not being thought about and I feel like it it is being thought about a little tyler has said it like, why am I getting a such a shield for myself out of the house, but it's like no one will change it up or act on it. It's just like Oh. Yeah. I probably shouldn't do this, but I'm going to do it anyway. So it just it's Not Great but I don't think it's the right move. I think it goes to show how strong Danny and Nicole s game are the day? Are they have strong arms tyler into getting their biggest target out when John would absolutely open to working with Tyler and has already expressed his distrust of Danny and I am not sure why he isn't willing to pull the trigger and flip some votes and keep John Albert to go after some of the people who he perhaps mistrusts I don't know. For me it's a lot of what has just been said, but you know tyler someone who doesn't want his name anybody's mouth genitals name is an everyone's mounts. Janelle. Has the reputation of a winner. Twice as beast. She was a copy. She's been to the end twice. That was a long time ago she is more so closer to the general fourteen. Prowess than she is the general of BBC six, sixty seven but she still holds the threat level of BB sixty seven and I do think that she somebody that is always going to be brought up. If you're one of the guys, she's made it very clear. Her enemy is Nicole. Frenzel. She's always going to go after an. Before. She's going to go after you. That's a good thing for you to have if one of your allies would have. Nicole wins next week she's going to do what you didn't and finish the job and takeout. Janelle, and this is all me advocating as a big case fan but I do think that there was a lot of offers on the table that they miss because the other thing is clearly loves this game enough to come back for so long for a fourth try, she's a big fan of this game if her fate is sealed and she knows she's dead to rights and then you come in and you're like, Hey, I'm your reverse card I've got you. You're giving me this deal a two weeks I'll take you but you're riding with me now she will ride. With you, there is no doubt in my mind she just she doesn't want to go before you know the the middle folk before the Kevin's and the David's she definitely doesn't want that she someone who I trust and saying I want an all star at the end I want to win. So this is where you make this deal happen and I think it's a missed opportunity but it thank you. You're giving me more cases I can't exactly be too mad at it but I know as a fan of good TV as a fan entertainment, I'm going to miss know. She's desperate and she's a loyal player and I just feel like they're missing this opportunity I feel like they're missing it with cancer as well like. I think they should be making deal with either of them and be like look if we keep you around like I wanna work with you like they don't have to sit there and like say, okay, screw my other alliance members like I'm only going to work with you or do anything I got. But like why not create a deal with them like I feel like there's A. Lot of talking around that where it's like, you know I'd be open to working with you I'm not I'm not against you like you know you stick around I, will I'll certainly keep an open mind, but it's like just make the deal now is the time to make the deal. So that moving forward if they win like I, just feel like there's a lot of opportunities right now. All right. Let them make the wrong move. It'll be fun. You. Know it'd be worse if the big alliances as being the right moves but somebody has to pay the price this week journal or case our. Love to see what is capable of okay. Let's one more question and then we'll wrap this up. This is from. ANALII didn't Julie T- something about the number three in the preseason what did it mean and can it save journal now? Stop do not read into the Julie Chang. Streets are. One more one. More, question. Should dig into it started as a joke but doesn't it almost actually feel like Nicole has actual production sway? She keeps getting good at it showing only Giannella few times sick high come on. We're not. Nicole. Eggert. Conspiracy theories rolling the shell. Okay take. It's fun to talk about but stop it. Let's say let's talk about this for a second. So Janelle and correct me if I'm wrong was a fan favorite winner recipient. That's happened. That's three in a row gang that's three in a row and are there any left? I think so. Tyler. There we go. One more. It's scary. It's for a fan favorite out there. All tell you that. That's happened three in a row. We've got a three women going out on her own that hasn't happened I saw statistic that outside of the one injection and shoe that was what was his name Him this is not happened before. So this is also a first where three gone out in a row. This is unprecedented China and yes, that's the one. That's the one. There's a reason we'll talk about I guess it works out. So it's just an interesting situation for me to see like I know went out early and fourteen, but also Geno wasn't really supposed to be playing that gave anyways this is just a weird situation for her to go in and be third twice. Third Person Out of the House to third person out of the house is just a weird weird weird situation and I didn't want to see it come through so soon. But Janelle probably never going to see this. She's got a lot more to deal with. But thank you. Thank you for keeping it fresh despite me in preseason I've seen. In the last like year with amazing race and three iterations. Big Brother I was wrong. I'm really happy. I got to see you're not gonNA get a notes. APP from me but I'm very wrong and I'm okay with it. I'm happy now never enough to now for me I love her yeah. Okay. All right. Well, let's Take a look one one more question and let's wrap this up. Okay. All right. How about this one? This this is from. Katie, do you think there's anything to genucel saying that she was told that she wouldn't be going home until mid-september even when she was out early or no? Because Nicole and Kishan home. I WOULD NOT We've gotten to exit interviews. I don't think that this is GonNa be some sort of save twists. I. Know I don't know what it means like I know that there are like all Tyler Angie now have mentioned that they were told by production that they would not be going home even if they get kicked out like they're going to be staying until September so like I don't know if maybe that was them just production just like being safe and saying like you'll probably be here till September or like. I don't I don't know. I. Don't it's weird to it is weird to me that they would be told that the at both Kisha into colour at home. So. Maybe there's something up but I just it could have just been production being like look like assume you're to be gone till September Abbas you have an exit interview tomorrow. Well there Friday but. I've not heard that there is not an exit interview. You haven't heard that there is an exit interview. Yeah but. That's that's the conspiracy. To unless there's a in their contract that Giannella signed, they've got like what's called the Loophole Lounge clause where if she's out, that's one of the loophole lounge twists comes in, and now she's in this lounge just chillan Allah Angela from A. B. From this season where she just gets the hang out for a week and then come back right in. I don't think that's the case especially because I feel like shouldn't they be cutting these more quickly if they're coming up on the Like I've heard them. I've heard the whole sentence plants have not really been cutting them. So to me that means that nance nothing. It's not really a thing that we should be looking out for. Okay. All right. Scott where we switched to what's what's coming up? Okay here we go. Let's talk about Canada's drag race episode eight recap check out what Liana. Amman, have to say that the latest episode of Canada's drag race on our behalf ups now. Okay. You you wanted to talk about love island. I, got to talk about the first two nights of Love Island two nights. Three hours of Love Island Maggie watching Love Island. No you know you would think that that sounds right up my alley, but I don't like the love reality shows. Too much it's too much. It's like, yeah, it was pretty fun. The first two nights of love. Island. Thought the PODCAST was really fun. So check out that part. Yes I was I gasp because of course, if you're going to do a recap of love island, you need somebody who's such a relationship expert. So that's where you bring in Rob Sister Nino I joined Kirsten McGinnis Brian scally on the love island wrap up premiere. Kirsten Brian will be back twice a week to cover all of love island over our half ups channel be on the lookout for that, and then over on news a F- Danny Tyson is a we kicked off. It is Pumpkin Spice Latte pay season on Tuesday already here it's happening. Maybe that's what they told. General they said, don't worry. You're not going home until pumpkin spice latte tastes drop. I have very strong negative feelings. Oh pumpkin spice. Latte taste season. That's probably what like end of September October. August twenty fifth. bamboos backed up they bumped it up. Okay. Oh, we had a lot of today talking about the. Survivor Borneo Finale, Myself Josh Ler and Mary Quick Hausky joined us on a wiggle through time as we wrapped up our summer survivor rewatch series talking about the finale of survivor Borneo. Gino was talking about a lot of big brother this week. Survivor so She's got a lot of big brother. That's surprising. She's Big Brother yes. Yes so. Get your survivor podcast one day we'll see. On the beam be Mike in Liana. They were playing some games with Corey. Cool. A cast mate of the Nicole Franceville Engine L. on amazing race thirty one check out what cory cool had to say about the survivor born out finale as well on our HAP- ups feed and then find out why Richard Hatch One with David in Jessica. They wrap up their wiggle through time. Look back at survivor going on all summer long and then. This isn't this podcast is not dropped yet, but a sneak preview Robin Akiva are talking about murder mystery this weekend. So be on the lookout for that probably coming Saturday L F roundtable from last night Again, I always enjoy the roundtable. So Do I. It's very fun. You know it's it's a really good way to just kind of like let everything out. Once a week and it's a very fun time. Brent wore the veil last night if you missed it, of course. That's very fun to run through the Stock Watch that's up on our youtube channel, and then of course, our big brother podcast feed and then on Thursday morning, find out what happens overnight on the big brother live feeds Taryn, we'll be back live eleven am eastern eight am Pacific or that you set up for Thursday night we will have our eviction case or or John L. are going home or somewhere on Thursday and we'll have a vote and we'll find out. I think we'll see the start of an endurance hgh competition on Thursday so be on the lookout or that. Okay. And of course, we've got plenty more coming up on rob has a website dot com I was chatting earlier tonight just a little bit of a heads up. With Sean Rector trying to get together another black voices of survivor roundtable panel coming up or Hopefully, we're hoping to do it next week we have that coming up and it's very important to get back to having some of those conversations on the podcasts. So be on the lookout for that Maggie. So Nice to have you here with us. Thank you for having me. I had so much. Fun Guys. Yes. People Follow You On twitter. I'm at underscore mfl Morgan, and on Instagram I am a Morgan underscore. Forgot, to ask you tonight, are you enjoying the Nicole F experience this season? I, really. Am I mean she's like deeply frustrating obviously, and like she's so easy to root against and I actually like. The problem is that everybody says own it but also I think that even latte like the biggest frustration other than her owning it is the fact like she doesn't try to get out of it like she doesn't try to not be a victim more like one who's like her like it's not fine to watch if you WANNA bit of acting tips. It's not fun to watch someone in a television show reality TV are not like sit in their sadness and feeling bad for themselves in themselves being a victim it's much more fun to watch someone against that, and the pull is just really frustrating and difficult to watch because all she does is sit in how everyone's mean to her and how nobody understands her, and now she just likes to be nice to everyone and if she could just. Take. It by the reins and be like I am not. You know I'm not GonNa Complain About this anymore, I'm going to do something about it. I. Think it would be so much fun to watch because she is playing a great team. I look at it very binary with these big brother characters. Do they give us stuff to talk about podcast? Yes or no? The ants with her is clearly yes. She's there I think that people think that. I. Really. Don't like it but I'm very happy that she's part of the season. Okay. Does. Not ever make it to be word which I greatly appreciate who What's going on with you? What's what's coming up? Well I did record the latest ninety day fiance Rapa podcast today what. World of Ninety Day fiance and the and the World Ninety Day fiance and we have to shows going on, we have the other way where the. Part of the couple goes to the country of the other person and starts to live their lives there, and we'll have happily ever after which it follows through with previous ninety day. Fiance couples were now happily married at it goes through their life now and the math and how they're doing their had. Happily is loosely. Happy. Ours are not so much some hard not even together anymore some rain. Drama that goes on. And it's very fun to talk about if you want to want to hear more about that, you can find that over on the ninety day fiance podcast around the network and rob heard we got news today ROB news. Massing or season four's coming back in a couple of weeks. Yeah. Are they all in a bubble? Yes. So actually there's a couple of things I know now. So this season, there's going to be live audience voting from home similar to how like your American. Idol's were in the past kind of thing. So they got people that'll be watching it through zoom and stuff they've got like a select audience. They're going to be the panel that's voting. That's interesting. There's about fourteen people. There's a couple of weird characters that are going to be there we got a we've got to watch them a call. It is actually personal call it. Yeah exactly. The same spelling and everything we've got one of those a squiggly alien with. It's just it's very strange. But of course, when that comes back, you know I can't not talk about it. So that'll be something. We'll be seeing the future. Of course, you can catch me Friday mornings talking live feeds with Taryn. Let's hope that the endurance complex