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"kirk spock mccoy" Discussed on The Fantasmagorium Show
"Fiction very underrated sequel. Absolutely the line maligned at the time. One of my favorites t to trainspotting. Yeah kind of came and went came and went i have. I don't think critically underrated I think critics like okay. I believe i have to go back. Yeah i don't remember. I just remember it came and went and i was lighted peep. It was people just didn't it didn't jive with people like the original and of course why would it was decades later. Rain A shot in the dark. The second pink panther film is a very most people. Forget about that one. I think that one is very underrated. Sequel that is kinda gets forget because it doesn't add pink panther and the name less people like i saw. Oh i forgot about it and then my other sequels are all things i think are better than the original. So that would not be underrated. Okay anybody who wants to go next. Well i'm gonna pull one. And because of the absolute poor quality that you guys are going to jump all over me four. I actually have to. I think underrated. I think star trek five. The final frontier is underrated. I think it is the movie that feels the most like the tv show. If you like cheesy special effects the camaraderie between kirk. Spock mccoy and just the general crazy adventure with the are the special effects bat in five. Is the story questionable. You betcha is a kind of a rip off of star. Trek the original series. But all of it comes together. It is not even a guilty pleasure. I love star trek five and everyone will punch line it to death but it is one of my favorites and the other one that i thought was underrated in terms of the four movies. In the mad. Max theory i recently revisited thunderdome and i love thunderdome. Everyone cramps all over noth dawson. But maybe i'm just traveling. Tina turner barter town and even and i thought it was like okay. I'm gonna watch once they get out of barter town then. It's all going to fall apart with the kids and i was like no. This is actually interesting world building. Does it make a whole lot of sense now. But i like it. So it's a beautiful film to watch too Cinematography and it's fantastic for what it is the color. The beige is of the desserts and things keeps a very muted palette. I mean air. I'm talking about just a miscellaneous sci fi film like that. But no i think i mean who remembers the original man. Max film really pre apocalypse. You know it's a regrettable film when you see the road warrior and then you see the the other one thunderdome i disagree. I think he's barred really sells it some terrible character toe cutter in the first one. Go back go back to him. The characters from bureaus up before we go back to the characters roar. Even though i love award humongous is the best. Come on lord. All they both better. I have to say that the The the the bad guy in thunderdome is really cool. What's his name The little guy Yeah riding on top of the guy went down syndrome. that's just making tertiary. Did you have any underrated sequels thinking. I also have a few movies..
"kirk spock mccoy" Discussed on Sci-Fi Talk
"Not done before that startling from the ground up there's more discovery on drug capsule so stay tuned. let's get back with the cast and creators trek discovery in the part one of the series shahzada. Latif is too complicated ash. Tyler who has to live on being both human and klingon. Due to experiments done by mary chief owes route strange. Because it's rice because now it's about his retaining memories some new cars. Yes another aeration what we also. Yes more it's more tyler. He can access those memories by. It's more it's just me now. More about relations the relationship neurologist. Focus mary she fogel commented briefly says that there is a relationship but with who has tyler revoke or both here saying earlier. It's like we definitely are in the relationship because you're there together allies. That is very much what is more. It's i won't take too much. But i think part of the part of the struggle but can she separate who tyler is stevenson. And she's she's really trying to find a way to yeah to embrace this new identity both north of and she was viewing tyler as the shell while she really believed that would overpower and she just underestimated the power and the human spirit and now she's having to come to terms backstreet that have a lot of integrity and i think he bodies had quite literally. To complicate matters. Further there's also spoke ash. tyler's relationship would burn them. Here's some equal martin. Green a unique experience for burnham. I i had never been in love before as michael. O'brien live the very new thing. You know to go to a loving relationship. You know from from the you know sort of upbringing that i had and yes this concept of love. I'm still learning about it. Still understanding Especially because the self love is something. I'm still to to to learn and burnham actually may not even be completely conscious may not even be completely aware of that so flow and was and how hard it really is to do it and that and that that is the key. I'm just saying. I just know easily one of the most complicated star trek triangles ever. Did you ever noticed that when star trek groups relationships in three it always works out. Yes kirk spock mccoy and so on and so on alex kirkman is now the head showrunner. But he's really more than that he's really guiding the future of star trek on cbs. All access he explains the look and the scale of this series executive producer had their cayden also comments one of the things. We took very serious asking people to pay ten dollars to watch. And if we're going to ask people to pay money to watch the show then we'd better deliver them and experience that they can't get on normal network told us in for free. I want to we all want to blur the line. Matiz and television and track is the perfect way to do it because the the canvas is so massive. So we've done a lot of things in season. Two that really kick it up several notches from season one. We switched to film. So it's a totally different aspect ratio. It's a much bigger and wider aspect ratio. And for me. What that does is it. It makes everything is bigger but it also somehow intimacy and it's one of those weird things that just happens with the visual effects in season. Two are insanely good. I think i'm so proud of our team. They've done so much work. And when i tell you that it takes eight months per episode it really does. There's not much work that goes into the refinement. Individual vex i would click our visual effects up against really anything marvel star wars anything. I think we're in a competitive space with them. Now and i didn't get recognized but this is my plug every show but i'm really proud of it and i'm just proud of the work that everyone is done speaking cayden. She talks about that. There is a learning curve for doing this series in a unique way streaming on cbs. All access i think the beauty of television is. It's a constant living breathing things so you learn as you go and our show. You don't get to watch fan as it airs and then adjust as you go which you can do. Let's do a broadcast show for us. Even having done the first season which we're all incredibly proud of it was her talked. Everybody was darker. Because you're at war so for all of us to be able to say okay. Closed that chapter as great as it was and now we can put that behind us and lighten it up a little and live with characters that we can really explore their relationships more now that they've had so much time together so with that you have more emotional scenes our characters that you didn't have as much time for you had an earned. Alex kertzman talks about the themes for the sophomore season. There are several things but one of one of the themes is what happens when we give up our some of our freedoms to protect our borders What does that mean. What does that mean for us as people. But i will say that both season one and season two ross has always been driven by emotional stories that how do you make people feel sick. And that's what trek does that. It's always about it raises great philosophical questions and he's fall completely in love with the characters on the show and they become your family. Come back every week to watch them to spend time with your family and one of the things. That's been so satisfied about the season while they were coming together as a screw family this season they really are and so we got to keep building on and much of the plot is gonna end up testing us what it means here. We get a sense of what spock's journey is a season and it's definitely a journey. The clues were in the sides or audition. Pieces and here is ethan peck. The character that was on the page the page that i got very quickly because Let's see a guy who's would appear to be someone who had never felt emotions and was to make intellectual sense of them and it seemed to me like sort of an existential crisis. I felt like i'm thirty. Two and we all go through that or on the stage so that was kind of recent in my life repertoire so we have to have somewhere to go with him right. Nemo's inimitable and pinto played an alternate universe right And so he's written on the page very differently and slowly but surely he will become. I think we've come to love and adore and the original series. Here's more of my look discovery. Part to as we showcase my podcast trek capsule all of my podcasts. In this network are available at spreaker dot com just search sifi talk saying one apple take one..
"kirk spock mccoy" Discussed on Find the Path Podcast
"Just woven in all about the long con. Ratios although I just pros and cons of this I will say that it does give you an opportunity to experience the story from multiple different perspectives. So it's almost like having like a short story collection kind of thing with different authors where you can have a method of stories, you can experience get kind of sampling cleanup, but I think that could be interesting. Return Dangerous. What do you do with the player when suddenly jamming does the other person takeover that character or do that person's? Like. Say NPC. They just run the character as an MP of cheers. What happens? Otherwise you're. You're you're going to be out of book but then you're back and like the dynamic of the groups keeps shifting around every book like I think they'd have to do it as an MTC. Although thinking about it I mean, it could be really fun to do something where it's just everyone gets one book with no overview. So if you're the person that got booked for something in your starting book, wonder like. How the heck do they get here? Like we. Say. Head so you tell your Hewitt and start reading book for until the end of book three. CAD again, that will, and again, that could work in could actually be very interesting. It could work well in some of the cameras fire Super Dungeon. Yeah but whatever works for you guys do A. Follow up with us. Let us know how finishes out areas that would work really well with serpent skull actually. Yeah surface. Really, well with kingmaker Oh yeah. Oh, probably. Yeah. Kingmaker Goodwin also each of the books in kingmaker really stand alone. But it's also still an overarching story and if a carrot and if you had the character that you're playing leave, it would make sense that it's like, okay, you finish up. Now, this person's going to be put to, it's like, okay well, while you guys are doing that I'm going to stay here at run the. Kingdom so Whoever's in charge of the kingdom for that year. Is left behind while the rest of the. Array we've got a second question or what are your thoughts on the ideal group size I have played in or GM for groups of six, five, four, three and two, and I have concluded that for my money the ideal group size is three players and GM rather than the typical for the social dynamics are easier matching busy schedules keeping people engaged giving everyone time the spotlight, and with a reasonably experienced group, you can still handle the encounters as written in pies adventures. In fact, we find the moderate increase in difficulty to improve the balance of AP can counters. As an aside, I also really enjoy jamming for to the buddy cop dynamics are great, but it's not appropriate for published material thought significant adjustment. What are your thoughts? I like four and five, but nothing higher than that four to three was fun like the first Api we ever played in was three which was cool. But we also have DC added in there the whole time The one thing that I will say is when you have less people if there is that one new player who maybe not is not a strong with the rules in his strong with the mechanics and how to get the most out of their character is going to be a lot noticeable than if they're in a group of five. So it really just depends on the experience. Of the group so like when there's three eight equally experienced people I, you know we had a great time with doing a lacy a fire with that. But if I'm doing a group right now through rain of winter and two of them, this is their first pathfinder adventure paths ever played the person playing the cleric is not used to kind of the cleric dynamics and how best play a cleric and so the lack of the appropriate healing or the buffer anything like that as much more noticeable in hindsight I would have tried to put like two more experienced players, a group of five on that. Much probably, yeah I personally I think four is the perfect number. AP's are written for four people. The thing that happens when you get more people in the five and six is combat slows down and you're just sitting there waiting for like twenty minutes before your next turn comes up I addition and yeah. Especially, in first edition, I find that that is hard for a lot of people to keep focus when it's like that long like by that time, it's like, okay, I. Guess I'll get up and get a drink and you know maybe go to the bathroom and before then I've completely lost what happens in the combat. So that's kind of my take on it I guess. I find myself pretty evenly split between my love of four and five I definitely agree with Jordan knitted the more people you get the more complicated the comments can become, and then you're just in the combat zone and so forth. I'm fortunate in that any time that I am running it for five all of the players are very experienced with a role system and so even when we're adding Ross, for instance, entire at scraps. It's still very snappy. I haven't found that it really slows things down much, and it does add an extra layer to the dynamic of the party. When you have an additional person, I remember reading a bunch of things about group dynamics and novels. And how to set up. So for instance, if you have the two person group, it's usually the Yin and Yang. You'RE GONNA have to people that are going to be the polar opposites buddy cop thing it's if you ever seen bones or castle or any of the rest of those where you have the straight laced person, the other three persons usually get the forty and trio. So you get your Kirk, Spock McCoy the logical emotional person. The person that balances four person tends to be the four sanguine contractors unless you have kind of a repeat and then I always loved the five-man band furtive our full trump fans out there or avatar. Yeah. The other thing that that your fifth character gives you is you have your, you know your rogue wizard cleric fighter. The fifth person can be kind of whatever you want them to be. So that's a good chance to play like those more esoteric ones that you probably wouldn't they're not the strongest healer or they're not the strongest fighter by default the Bard. For, the mart, what the one greatest and most overlooked advantage. However of having a five person group is how easy treasurer inexperienced divides Fi ways That's fair. UNTO said, GonNa make it easier five people. All right we do with this extra copy, Seth, give it to the porpoise a give it to a child. Take extra copies because I do the treasurer. Giovanni Jerk One cup of Russia. Well he says, thanks for what you do and keep up the good work. PS in an early after party a listener wrote that he was from Breezy Creek. You guys thought maybe it sounded like somewhere in the Midwest it's a war for the crown reference. There's a towel name NBC called Calvillo of Breezy Creek. It's not in any setting book. So you need to have read or played crown fall to know. Will. Oh. Larry. Cut You for letting US move isn't very deep cut I apologize just whoever wanted to be from. Breezy Creek that we probably put them someplace else. You. Have to home. And Breezy crease ear rich enough to have two homes look Gresley. 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"kirk spock mccoy" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast
"Your medical away team? He told you tie symbol ready. Meet like okay. They don't want to pay extra actors, but then just change the wyant doctor crusher. Meet me and transport room for grown down like yeah, just seems really awkward when they're so careful about all their other writing, and then you get a little thing like that, and it's like I mean even if he just said me in meet. Meet me and transported three with a with a medical away kit. Yeah, you're or something like that. I know I one hundred percent understand exactly what talks so as you said, that is a that is a small nitpick. Yep Yep, but wh th. The big surprises open was hey, well. It's supposed to be hey, look the board. It's like well. I need a new. They're coming sooner or later. They're probably going to be throughout the episode as I bark, so let's do this there. You go all right well. Why don't we do this act? One writer calls back to the enterprise to let them know that they've what they have found as soon as picard. Here's the. The word board he wants to get the heck out of there. Everyone back to the ship, but beverly protests. They just can't leave him here. He's GonNa Die Beverly. That's kind of the point. Besides that signal was probably a homing beacon. The board have to be on their way right now. They're GONNA come collect their dead, but beverly doesn't understand. She is a doctor after all in this guy needs her help. She's trying to explain this as she's in the middle of healing, some of his wounds while she's doing this card, says any intervention on their part Lord. Alert the board to their presence. Whoops well to for that wharf just wants to go ahead and kill. Kill it, and be done with it. Card would like to agree with war, but he has duty. He orders a detention cell to be prepared, and for a dampening field to be erected to suppress that homing beacon whatever beverly needs, can be brought there and with that, but Card Co. contentedly walks off the bridge with a knowing look between data, and so this is where I start having lodge unpack. Okay, so it's there's a lot that just happened in that seat. Yeah, the first big thing is all the different opinions right, not only are they going to have to companions what they need to like? Snap judgment because Oh, the border could be on her tail. There's no way that that not just GONNA leave that they're going to leave the guys here. They're going to become informed. They're gonNA come quick right. We know how fast they can travel, so it's. It's a situation that we've seen many times before acceptance. Typically we have everybody on the bridge, or we have everybody in the conference room and cars like okay. Give me your opinions, and instead of doing that I mean we're doing. It overcomes because we're in different locations and everybody's kind of jumps. Jumps in with their opinions like no this way I think we should know this I think we should add. Yeah like WARF is opinion. I'm not surprised. Doctor crusher I'm not surprised. A card was actually the big wild card in the situation. Free Right, and why? Why was he the wildcard for you in that? Because you don't know how he's GonNa react because he he's. He's the one that's had the most interaction with them. Right main in the most interaction that's putting it mildly. But it's didn't know if he was going to be sympathetic towards or if he was GonNa, if the anger was going to bubble up, or what was going to happen, and he kind of straddled line between crusher and war, right he'd. He didn't outright. Say Hey, what's killed them, but he's not like we're nowhere to save them and so yeah. He just kind of wanted to leave it alone well. We've already interfered so well. How? This way right like. Like obviously dot crushers do her thing like that's just instinct but as soon as she pulled that 'cause I don't necessarily know if it has named that laser out and start in as. Oh Oh you want to know the name of that thing. Does it have a name does? It's a dermal so meaning skin Yup Odermall regenerator? We'd love to have one. Everyone would love to have a dermal Jenner I love to have yes, so they yeah. Get can I tell you what I pull out of this particular episode or this particular scene and specifically the Diana Warf Picard. Deal there amick I. This is a everybody. Get your drinks ready. Because I'm about to reference Harry Potter but this is what I always reference about the trio in Harry, potter the Ron Harry her Maini deal, which to me is very much reference to the original series Kirk Spock McCoy triumvirate where it's a, it's a writing style where you have the main character, the decision maker who represents A. The three together make up the the inner workings of a single person's where you have kind of the EGO ID and Superego you have the one person who has to make the decision. You got the one angel on the shoulder, and the one angel in that shoulder talking it's just they have to embody character to be able to express those thoughts without all now doing internal dialogue and. Without hard sounding completely crazy, exactly talking to himself in Orlando literally giving him an angel, and a devil, and he'd shoulder or whatever I like. This is sci fi, but not fantasy right, but I think this is. This is one of the few times in Star Trek next generation. This is one of the few times that we have seen this in next generation where I think they returned to that I'll, I'll call at the triumvirate man. The that three piece everybody has their personal opinion. Wharf is the. The military the security just kill it and be done. No, no, no, no, we have to give help and render help. We have a duty, and then you have the guide. Their who we visualize e wants to kill it wants to be done wants to run away, but knows that he has a duty in has to make a decision on what to you know and that's again. That's a it's a Harry Harry. Ron Reminding type situation, it's a spot bones, McCoy situation note, spock bones Kirk situation sorry. And that's that's the way I. See this and honest I think it carries through most of the episode you know and you and I. Think the you up. The different crew like they are all different competing voices that honestly this could be an internal dialogue. This is an internal dialogue of. How do you deal with an enemy so instead of Kirk just darker while? Talking about the old grew too much sadder, picard, just continually making log entries. Is Like Hey, we're going to actually grew. Include the rest of the crew in this conversation. Let them run their paycheck for an episode, right? But to do that I mean as you said you you. Kind of suspected wharf would have the response that he would have. He's the Security Guy Right here is going to back up. He's he's going to have his captains back like he. He will give voice to what the captain is thinking right like the yeah. We know that beverly let's get Outta here. You know what this is, but you have beverly. WHO OKAY TAKE! Take away the inner person dialogue, and just look at her as a character, she's a doctor, and in front of her is a patient someone who needs her help. And she has an oath that oath and she holds it seriously, and that oath has been around for over a we know to be around at least another four hundred years, and it's been around for a couple of thousand now here on earth I guess. I! Don't I don't know when when hip Brad Davis I think was his name, or whatever apologies? Nobody? That was I. don't know when he actually left, but it was a long time ago, so two thousand years ago, right? So. Yeah, there's there's still taking that oath and she's still. She's very serious about that. Like yeah, it's an enemy, but he still needs my sorry. I had to look up. Tease is yeah was around four hundred seats so? When he's six, hundred, twenty, four, hundred, twenty, four hundred, anyway, they they, and maybe this is just heart of them, clarifying and slightly rewriting what the board can. To to actually allow them to stay in this series, but my first thought what went went cards like okay. Bring on board. We'll put them in. The cell will block their signals and I'm sitting here thinking like every time at all times. That that. We've met the Borg so far. Their technology has been so superior. It's been nothing you can do to stop them. They will always come. They will always win. They will do their thing and so I'm sitting here..
"kirk spock mccoy" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast
"Following cannon was as important to television show makers in the sixties no not as it became in the nineties and then certainly today yearning back then everything was so episodic uh no one really thought in terms of like story. Well the the the idea that we would call today as it was an anthology type show like but nothing really affected the show from week to week to week to week each show we by the end of the episode where he reset and everything's normal for the start of the next episode You and like that's what they did. You're watching the same characters every week but it may be themselves don't tied together right now. You also get it to appoint with any show that is spread across in. This really think applies more to the shows that come out in the ninety s the ones. We're getting ready to jump into you. Know fans are going. Oh an episode. Third video watched like an episode thirty. This guy said this thing but now you're saying this over here you know one hundred years later in the time line nine and twenty years later in real life like so. What's up with that and you know some of the directors like Whatever like you know and I think that's where the term ret conning? I don't know that it was invented for Star Trek. Think it was because of stuff like that and I always find it fun when star our trek kind of catches itself in one of these paradoxical holes and then future riders tried to go back in and within the context of the show. uh-huh make up for it and there. We will see some some examples of that in fact in the new trek. That's being created right. Now show tell you this. Yeah I don't mind telling you this they're doing that right now and actually I've thought about having you watch these and it's possible. Yeah yeah maybe you could meet. I don't know we'll talk about later but Their actually accounting for why we see smiling. Spock in the cage and what's happening in that unaired pilot which is supposed to be Canon bannon versus the logical spot that we come to know and if you remember what episode was it was it. Was it Mirror Mirror maybe journey debatable. Able I dunno one of those where they thought they thought. Spock Oh you know I think it was a time when spock was fooled into thinking he kills Captain Kirk Work and at the very end gym Aux Gym. You're alive and you see the smile. Come across his face and like he has to. He has to correct himself like they're they're right now. Kind of filling in a little bit of Spock's backstory to explain why those things may have occurred that it wasn't just this solid logic. Isaac no emotions thing. They're doing it right now is my point and I kind of like I like it when they do that. You know like go in and fill it in and make it try to make it makes sense all right so back on this episode we have the ship dissolving. Yes or so we think. Aw I kind of like the idea of dissolving because it got me thinking it's like I can't can't say this is necessarily something I've seen before if that's what's going on and It was really kind of weird because like the first thing he tried to touch was one of the bodies and like his hand went through. Mike I don't know if dissolving the right word right but I'll go with it for now and see where you take it and yeah so I definitely got me thinking but We stepped away way from that for a little bit and try to get back to that the enterprise as a they kind of had an idea what was going on but you know it's like okay. We need to get away from your now. Okay and it's it's interesting to me how they try to create attention in in the sixties here like it's this transporter scene was kind of hard to watch sir. Like I definitely definitely understood the emotions that they were trying to portray and like. I'm trying to think like what we do differently in today's TV now it just just for people listening who may have watched this episode with us. describe for us what happened in that scene so we know what you're talking about. Yes so it's the they're trying to transport back and basically the the Scotty art no wasn't even Scott. It was it was because has he was on the bridge. It was whoever's down Engineering Scotty I it was somebody else but Scotty went down to join us was Scotty in the other guy. Yeah they they were trying to beam even them back to the enterprise and you know his damaged enough. It didn't have enough power so they can only take up three of them therefore from there of course So they're trying to three of them back and he's like he's you will see him kind of start to phase in the go away and then they're fiddling with some knobs and we get another noise and hone can't quite get in few few more you know. Adjustment saw the control panel there and it's like okay. They made it back. But now we gotta get Captain Kirk back to ruin right so they go through this whole whole sequence again and like I I think part of it was like no one was talking during it it. It was all this this camera shots of them fiddling with buttons and KNOBS and In that a shot of like the the teleport pad thing with our with our little Graphics Not Graphics but affects that that we associate with you know the transportation system our and just Kinda in and now. There's a little sound that goes with that too. Obviously right. But that's all we got and this went on for I. I should have time to. I would guess at least a minute. Maybe close to two minutes of this and it's like I I understand you're trying to build some tension here but like I. They even flashed over back to captain. Kirk a few times and like he was just kind of like standing there waiting like Mike just maybe like a simple like he gets on his communicator. And it's like what's what's taking so long right. Ah problems or anything to kind of even just fully explained to the audience. What's going on? Yeah there's editing was it's definitely not as tight in the sixties. Yeah as it is today for for sure on On a show and they also had several more minutes to fill. You know true. They didn't do that just to just to pad the show but it's an interesting thing I do want to jump back into the scene though because I and if you're already if you're gonna go there then but what I really focus on. This particular scene is the conversation between spock and Kirk Where you know Kirk says he's okay? I can only be in three of you. Back in Kirk says all right checkoff bones. SPOCK YOU GO I. I'm the captain I'm GonNa stay behind and spot what comes up and says Requests permission to stay captain and he goes request denied. Yeah get your butt back there. You know I'm I'm staying and I think there's at least a a the real world conversation to be had of who should have actually been the one to stay. I mean we can have the conversation that says why were they over there. Why was the captain and the first officer over there together at the same time? Anyway you can have that but at least this time. They didn't take the entire bridge with that is true that is true. I was listening to one of our previous ups. Yes of going yeah. That's that's the. Please don't do that again like He. You know somebody on the show eight character to leave in charge of the bridge. He told him. Scotty you have it So like like I was okay with who went over there there. I kind of wonder when he said there was a pause before he orders. Spock to go back okay. Maybe he's going to go to and to try to conserve some empower. That that that makes sense to then we have this little dynamic of a Kirk and spock stuck on the ship and they can try to figure out another way to get back. Something see I I honestly I would argue. If you're going to send three three. That should have gone would have been Kirk. Spock McCoy and check off should have been the one left. And here's the reason. Why don't you go okay? So like I understand that because he's a believe he's the lowest ranking officer so oh yeah leave him behind. Okay but I think I accept the way they did it because the captain is not only I'm not gonNA lay down his life for the ship but for the crew as well right and that's essentially what he's doing here it's like He. That's his job is to protect everybody. Yeah and and when you're when you're the commander of field mission you're supposed to be the first one in and the last one out get right like I one hundred percent get this but from a like when it. It comes down to. Who's who needed to be back on the enterprise more versus who needed to be on? Who could have been left behind when you think about it if something goes wrong with this transporter system of the four of them? WHO's the best person to help? Figure that out. Well it's going to be right Cher. He's the science officer. He can help. Scotty he can do whatever if something bad happens to Kirke can take over. You have that bones. He's a medical guy. He shouldn't really be there he doesn't need to be in the in the way of danger. Take the medic- back. Ok checkoff he's instant. He's under my command. I'm going to keep him. However from spock's point of view the ship needs her captain? Had this been any other commander across the ship. I think it's a no brainer. But a ship needs or captain which is honestly why. Kirk shouldn't have been over there in the first place. But that's a different argument. You know but like I really can. I can see the idea that it you you know if something goes wrong. Losing Captain Kirk was a much bigger blow to the ship then losing quite honestly any of the other three but bones. The reason to go back spock had a reason to go back. So now. You're really between Kirk and check off and I get why he didn't but from a from a necessary standpoint. I really think it should have been checkoff stayed behind. Nah I like I I get your argument I understand it but like I I I still like Kirk staying back because I it's that that I mean obviously not only plays out the rest of the episode Sir but like that's why they Have that command system in place like they know who becomes captain next who takes over and they have all in place because they know that that I ever life expendable quite honestly right over the course of all their star ships and everything like the captains are gonna be in the middle of everything right in my mind. The captain's job is to lead and so he's GONNA lead them into battle he's GonNa lead them into the exploration he's going to take the lead in in conversations when he's back on the ship but like he is going to be everywhere he is going to take the lead. He is going to be in charge until he dies. And then we have a rules rules to tell you right right now I with you I get it I really do and I I appreciate the I appreciate the leadership leadership aspect of that big leadership guy. I really do I appreciate I appreciate. The fatherhood is the only word that comes to mind the protective nature that Congress exhibiting that that kind of first and last out idea. If somebody is going to get trapped. It's GonNa be me as the captain who made this decision. It's not going to be one of my guys Mhm I protect my Shit my crew and then I protect my ship and that's and that's so I I very much appreciate that. But you know I think when you see what the cost of losing captain apt to a starship like that's a big blow but I get it anyway I thought I actually thought that's kind of where you're talking about that conversation. Yeah between them so all right so get transported back Kirk is now lost. Yes Kirk is gone for all intents purposes ship has disappeared and and we we start to get some explanation that this is where I I really made a note about techno-babble. It's like spark just goes off off on all this stuff and like he he I mean he spouts it off and like okay. I followed the first half of that and then all right I ah lost you just kept going just kept going so I I mean I most my notes. I'm just going to skip over because like yeah watched the episode that you haven't seen the episode and this is where all Make if you're listening to the show and you're not watching the episodes so long with us you're welcome to keep listening to the show. Oh Yeah Watch the. What's wrong with us you know? Just get that fresh take on them so the one thing I did want to ask you about because I don't know if this this comes up again or just how it how things function in this universe. 'cause we're not always in this universe so oh I mean 'cause 'cause at at the end Kirk essentially says yeah had this whole university myself so he's obviously in a different universe. Do you like I. I don't I don't think they gave us any of the terminology that I'm used to hearing. Looks like do you know if that was like you know parallel a universe alternate universe like do they ever kind of clarify any of that. Yes okay yes I'll leave it there. Okay yes they a a they do come back and explain exactly what was going on. Okay you know with his show. I let you leave it there. Yes they they do so check off and obviously they didn't fully explain it in this particular episode. Yes yes yeah this episode and I can promise you they do come back to it and you will revisit it we we on this podcast will revisit it when the time on comes by just one. That's my that's my but yeah checkoff which by the way is part of the reason why this episode had to make it into their. Yeah was the first one to kind of be affected by whatever's going on that yes kinda saw on the other ship already which the characters in Star Trek in general that I've seen have a really they do really poor job of letting people know what's going..
"kirk spock mccoy" Discussed on Breaking the Glass Slipper: Women in science fiction, fantasy, and horror
"Pasta writings rather than today because you get so many different trinity's books today agenda which have excellent <unk> variety roles i am but the idea that maybe that could be something freudian in it and a mother fixation on if you remain writer wanting to write a trinity and get this woman which one is is it will be to be sticking to the authority figure but even putting one saying that was ridiculous. I would say element of stereotypes he if he were writer looking at the three categories i mentioned about coming of age of <unk> coming of age case the agenda previously it does that does seem to be the story that they sorry the character that drives story ford and because women haven't been around loss in that kind of role people reluctant to and i i also think there's an element of the authority in the rogoff and help the coming of age to get where they need to be so the idea of two men helping women to get somewhere is probably completely into so many people econ you could have women as rogue and their <unk> axing examples but generally that's kind of seen as the recklessness. It's not really ever retributed two women with him writing broad sense. It's much more natural woman within it to have authority <hes> to be the one who is the <unk> trucks trucks just conscience because that's generally women being in a wider setting in other in groups or we got like the hair going of for these questions <unk>. It's always going to go kill the dragon he's going going to have you gotten extra pair of socks based on what kind of background even it's just natural for the woman to slot into the authority role <hes> so <unk>. It's difficult to say why has happened this way but i do think there are some possible explanations on depending on the individual rights taxes but hatefully. I'd love to see it coming of age of the woman with <unk> authority in the road breath help rabbits unless might co hosts know of any. I don't need to hand them. I mean you could maybe make a case for hunger games. 'cause gail would be the rug yet pizzas kind of the the conscience so if we say conscience rather necessarily authority figure that could work. That's a book by a woman as well isn't it. Yes yes there. Is that ah yes yeah. I mean i definitely when i when i was planning cup of promise. I quite consciously decided that. I wanted the road to be a woman because i felt don't like hot. The episode that it was never the female to the heads the funny lines or go to be as you say reckless or oh causing trouble herbal announce sarah. I felt like that at that set new fancy books anyway. I felt like i haven't really seen that and i think you've created by phone memorable where characters that are relevant agenda. She's just great. I love allah. Bless your heart. What about male trinity's because while you know okay so we've talked about kirk spock mccoy there couple of male ones but there are denied this seem i'm to be fewer all male ones than old female ans and when i was looking up <hes> the b._t. Brains and brawn trump the kind of one of the a few male examples entirely male was actually from princess bride which i thought was quite fun because you have a nego montoya <hes> is obviously the beauty is beautiful spanish visine because he is so clever so so very very clever and physics because the brown and i thought that was key but i think if we look back at mythology and so on you know there's a lot of <hes> <hes> female trinity's happening. We've got the fury's the fates and so on and you have these made mother crone kinds of trump's but well how come out many three men together wall switch that genetic. Maybe you know it's that whole kind of not <unk> thing. He has three men together too long upsets people something when you said the beauty brains brawn thing i was trying to think of other male trinity's in our stores have supernatural <hes> but which one is the beauty. We're all isn't it which one night maybe be nine thinking about them. Which was the brains to be honest <unk> but still well. I find that a few more online so i had sorry megan we had lord of the rings with aragon and gamely on legless which again probably getting with biki brains would possibly facing with coming of age thirteen broke as well so token <unk> everything covered a three musketeers news on ghostbusters would say that i came across the reason i mentioned in one go is because in the freemen petits that's almost like trinity cheap at least four of them and engage us as you have to stop with the trinity on then you kind of an extra person coming on as well <hes> on it does seem to work they express <unk> sin was interesting. Actually when he took about crisis <hes> the new ghostbusters with the <hes> the female email cost the going everyone's name but the character who is a subway worker comes into it guess for both guys busta by the end of the film. She is a much more integrated member of the game and it's one of the reasons i really loved. The negus bust is because it's a much walmer a film in terms of by the end of it. They will close friends. I love the original guys buses but i think the new one a does make more effort to make them <hes> that kind of found family team thing by the end. Absolutely i totally agree that. I love the new maybe as much the old ones. I think they've done really well which to hold extra episode on the comparison. The guys busted but you're right by the end of the film. The winston instamatic character has been amalgamated into the grave. Do harmonize a lot more and it just felt more cohesive on. I wonder if that has something to do. The fact that women generally go around in groups whereas mandates always like you know every man is an island kind of economic can't really bond with someone if he gets something. I'm really terrible with them in the buddy. Maybe she have whereas it's just kind of natural rape women getting gathering together all the time yeah and i think a <hes>. Maybe that's the point is that the regional guys buses isn't really a film about friendship so much because it's got in a bank. I'm trying to get off with <unk> character this kind of like a room komi soy d- <hes> plot to it and stuff and they'll see friends. That's not really the point of the film whereas i think the new ghostbusters is very much about two friends who've fallen out game back together and forming coming this close knit group quiz the other tunes well. I have to say overly flick found of the best trinity's in literature and film all all had alvin and chipmunks say off in the chipmunks. I'd have to watch that to be able to comment but it would be interesting to have a live concert. He will album the chipmunks. Whatever quote in the pats the female <unk> at trinity how they balance that have interacted in the differences between them make quite interesting reading interesting watching if we wanted to divide that time traveling with chipmunks i think are probably would that's the terrible thing i was thinking about animation particularly because genuine you mentioned you like cuttings and i was just thinking because i watch a a lot of cartoons and i was thinking about some of the female trinity's that you get in that like gravity fools where you've got mabel and her two friends candian grandma and grandpa's great or steven universe which like the show is about stephen but then like the three women are the ones who the actual palace has gone up helen on amethyst but it's interesting than that. It's the really powerful incredible women are kind of playing second fiddle to stephen not decide like i love that show but it's interesting when you look at it that way and i was actually thinking about phoenix and firm with them finish verb and candice this can is kind of makes the the three but obviously she's. She's always at odds with the two of them so that that's you know that's interesting that the the female <unk> character of the trinity there is actually constantly trying to break it apo- which she's like the yoko ono of fitness listen i. It's just interesting. It's <hes> took invest even university. The three female characters in the central pheno current is i almost feel like that's a great example of why was talking about earlier where you phone three very distinct characters and then chuck them together and they have great interactions fractions have a gone. It's the kind of the muscle isn't she. She's the <hes> the really strong and solvent one and police so really finicky touchy and the other one is <hes> a much more like the the spurs broke character causes trouble and stuff so i've kind eliezer with ice three by themselves like that would be equality entertaining to me. Maybe i mean yeah. I think they're great but again. The one that ends up kind of having the story revolves around them is the one who's coming of age stuff which is steven yeah yeah. It seems to come back to that. Stephen ysmael character decided burqas <unk> open to learning in he doesn't have any <unk> nonsense is going on and he's just already knew the accessible likeable little kids yeah i also love is dad. Dads are good picking on something that we just mentioned passing about fracturing trinity's but has anyone ever encountered trinity's as antagonists oh villains because i often feel that we've been speaking about how people in the trinity you know like the that's the adviser and the rogue and but generally they kind of help each other our toll they they go through an adventure they find the bad guys together <hes> but what life life the trinity was the bad guys like i feel lots of villains are villainous because their loan and they a certain they're like mountain of doom and they destroyed and they don't have any friends they only have you subordinates who they can just toss into lava pits if they don't do the jumps right like i was really starting to think of examples where they're all villains that help each other out okay at the risk of making this podcast basically become the avatar the last eh bender fan club what about zula zula zula thailand may well not really that villainous all day i mean she <hes> you know for most of it then backup the three of them together quite a good example because she doesn't push either of them into appar lava where she could have done that. They must be some affection. I think that that <hes> appetite is a great example of of making you you'll billons interesting and complex actually for his i i mean they would definitely <unk> a body at the beginning as well and what they do the zuma and had to hench women is makes them really complicated and understandable so they get so understandable then no longer bodies. That's actually really interesting point jen might because when i made the list off antagonist oberlin's has trinity's it was interesting how many of them on the canned good at the end or ended up in additionally happen here. I so respect rabat busy <unk> inigo see the scene ends up being sorry spoils kazini ends up dead and the other two going to help the hero randomly picked up one that was the trailing cast the film with woman and they don't really the main villains but they all kind of like antagonist within it. <hes> there's also the three witches bath who again not the main villains but kind of sidestepped on sold hair at the same time as being bad in unlikes. My favorite one was three hyenas in the lion king he wrote the vicious in horrible and once again to have our idea via the t. guys will go and that really horrible and create terrible problems for the protagonist the beginning by the end. They're actually the one that takes down the villain himself at an. I thought that was that was really interesting. Trinity that and they're there's still villainous the end and they're still incredibly selfish and they haven't changed or developed as characters derived it but just circumstances or whatever you say maybe simba's cunning will skulls pride ends up with them tuning on the main antagonist narrative when he bring him down rather than simba another one i i thought that i read about with 'em might be bishops. Cure seen a nightmare before christmas..
"kirk spock mccoy" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM
"Okay welcome back to coast to coast with the Margie Cree as we talk about the Star Trek the fiftieth anniversary we're going to take your calls next hour things that you can now talk with us about things you have recollected from Star Trek in those kinds of genre films you went to school with Billy Mumy right yes yeah and I've I've known Billy actually since I was seven years old and we've worked together a number of times on number different projects including space command and about one five so he was and is of course one of the great genre actors lost in space on and while I was on of course when he got it got in the lost in space or in the twilight zone how did you feel as a kid were you envious it was was envious and sort of feeling like well there's someone like me in this TV show and when I got to meet him when I was seven we traded comma perfectly but one day I was home sick and I just call them you know I I called the stars of of of lost in space in the phone book and I I got his mom on the phone and then he got on the phone and off we went and so it's it's really fun having this history with him but I wouldn't switch envious is just thinking he was really cool and you know and he's incredibly talented great fun to work with when the when you look at how Star Trek was put together yeah and how it evolved how do you explain the cold phenomena afterward we know it's really interesting I think Star Trek was a mixture of different things that really hit the sweet spot for what the fans have been waiting for I think when you look at science fiction do theories prior to Star Trek it would be a lost in space wasn't really that good a show I mean we've had a wonderful cast it was fun but it wasn't deep and profound and meaningful and then started comes along and felt great characters it's got great escapist fantasy were thinking of the streaming of being on the enterprise and things would be fun to be a part of that crew and have those kind of interest and but then it's also commenting on the world it was really this great mixture and I think what happened was that its partial partially different scene was show airs on networking when there's a syndication this one is hearing on the network it's once a week at least it was back then because of this it syndication it's five five days a week every single day Monday through Friday you can be watching Star Trek I think being able to see the shows that often because again this was before you could record a show you couldn't there were no video recorders that point and so to watch it you know that gave it enough but you use your scene of not often enough we could really become a huge fan of the show and then you start having Star Trek conventions in the in the seventies and the early seventies and then the Star Trek fans could get together again this is before the internet so I think when started fans started getting together and dressing in those costumes and and also when started with this the on there were very few products that were released for Star Trek the once a windows cation a somewhat a fan base there was then you start getting the toys and the books and all of these different offshoot products if you could really live Star Trek life tell us about next generation because that's the one you did program for right in the face nine as well that's the thing was evident what S. who started going off off the air and they started to be a fan base Hammond started thinking about well can we get you know get more more Jews out of this product and so actually they were gonna bring started back the series in the seventies in nineteen seventy six they start developing so called Star Trek phase two and they got the entire cast except for Leonard Nimoy who was on the outs with run very busy been wanting more of a kind of merchandising but does the city you're developing the shell and building sets in and Star Wars came out in any of the Star Trek movies instead and those were successful Star Trek the motion pictures Neil wrath of Khan that sector of the year to another Star Trek movie would come out and these are Kirk Spock McCoy but in the van and I had the idea of okay let's see if we can do another Star Trek TV show the because the movies were Kirk Spock was quite they had to do something different for the TV show and gene Roddenberry had the brilliant idea of doing a completely different cast setting the show decades later in the chronology and then he came up with Kathy card and data and all these different characters the amazing thing was a huge success and from the beginning basically and it showed that you could do a Star Trek show has totally different characters and then every few years they've come out with a new Star Trek series after that came the six nine and instructed Voyager and an enterprise and so they kept you coming up with more and more characters and food in a very durable franchise and then of course JJ Abrams did the movies that we've been seeing recently and I Bryan fuller's gonna do a new TV show so again you can use but it's always trying to find a story that you haven't seen the characters you haven't seen expanding the universe when I was coming up with stories the Star Trek the next generation and Deep Space Nine and then world of time the the the one I wrote with Michael leaves one with George K. that we shot that directed and eggs and produced it's always like what story have we seen in the and what what comments deeply on the real world in real life the challenge always of course is the more Star Trek stories they're being done and not another thousands of them you have to be very knowledgeable about what they've done and find a way to come up with something fresh it's challenging but it's it's it's not impossible just takes really digging in and bring your your a games your Deep Space Nine episode is still being touted as one of the best yeah party on the stars in the defensive about that was in that episode Avery books Brooks who plays Kathmandu Cisco finds itself back in the fifties as a science fiction writer and we get to see the science fiction writers of the nineteen fifties it was all the actors who played the defacement characters in heavy makeup you get to see what they really look like when they're out of that make up it was great fun and what the inspiration was was that when I was a teenager I I met one of the writers in the original Star Trek of great writing in Theodore sturgeon he became one of my mentors and he's written for those magazines galaxy an astounding an amazing story back in the fifties and I realized if not for those writers who wrote the first science fiction magazines for the love of it before there was a Star Trek or Star Wars they were writing from any word five cents words they weren't getting rich but because they loved it they were creating these amazing universes that lead to Star Trek and Star Wars and I wanted to pay tribute to that area and those writers and talk about why we write science fiction and how we can have a profound meaning if you're writing the truth of your life using science fiction to show a possible future and so that's what I was writing about in that in that episode mark we're going to take calls with you next hour but in the time we've got left this hour let's talk a little bit about some of the other things you've been working on this so tell me about this new edition of The Twilight Zone companion well you know my publisher I've been talking about it now if he books you can have links to audio and video and and things that used to only be available in in in in university archives I know on the internet you can you can just click through and then watch incredible rarities rod Serling you know that lectures in commercials and all sorts of stuff and so I wanted to have access to that material and also so basically with the new addition it has over a hundred pages of new tax it as hundreds of new photographs it's got links to audio and video we're just finishing up now it'll be it'll be a very very soon and and it's going to be terrific I mean it'll include photos when I when I finish the planets and companions in the eighties a we had a Twilight Zone party and the actors and the producers and directors and and and and Carol Serling and they all came to the in which the church Kay was there any photographs a full in color and they've never been printed and we'll have that that stuff too so it's gonna be great great fun I interviewed the writer of a book called Dr Feelgood it was about a doctor who would in jacked I sort of methamphetamine in the John F. Kennedy and Jackie and some of my other Hollywood stars and this guy you get this guy said rod Serling was on that list really that's interesting well I haven't heard that but but rob certainly drove himself hard you know and and back then people didn't know the dangers of of amphetamines as we do now you were legal right exactly and but I mean you know those those guys were the devil that none of the having we generation they they worked hard the drain car the smoke card that was that was what a man's man wasn't you're serving was a soldier in World War two and he really nowadays they would a city of PTSD coming out of the war but he he used writing things to work that out work that out the tram exactly exactly plant amazing amazing man and they create a work this lasted till now phenomenal cowboy what a year and a half ago two years ago you opened up the sci fi do YouTube channel the shots I'm fine I was I was having lunch with one zero who was the children of the walking dead and he said that he's a good friend and he said you use such as a new so knowledgeable of science fiction why don't you start your own YouTube channel where you can just talk about science fiction movies and TV and books because some I know so many stories that all these your friends have told me they've never been published rate Bradley was my mentor for over ten years as you know and and so I thought will that be great I started my own YouTube channel it's called Mr sci fi and it's funny because there was a great I kind of science fiction and Forrest J. Ackerman and he coined the term the sci fi and he was known as Mr sci fi these another friend of mine and and so I I called Mr sci fi as it as a as a tip of the hat to him and he's he's he he died so amazing man and so every every week or so I'll post a video about talking about whatever I want talk about with his Star Wars and Star Trek or you know rod Serling one of the one of the affected was telling the story of a rod sterling we've read three other friendship fell apart over Twilight Zone in services because ray told me that story after many years he never talked about it publicly nor did rod and so finally they told me the story and I thought now I can pass it on an amazing story and so Mr sack physis my little playground I can talk about anything I want to isn't technology amazing to allow people like you like me like anybody to do this yeah it's great what's so funny because I'm doing space command which is a huge epic science fiction story that has you know thousands of visual effects and all of that it's this monstrous big project and yet Mr sci fi allows me to is that you think might my iPhone turn it on myself and talk for five or ten or twenty minutes and and then just put up on the internet so I like the fact that I'm working on something that's very challenging like space command of the very rewarding but also Mister scifi which is very very fun so it's it's it's great to be able to do the whole the whole gamut of things let's talk about space command and.
"kirk spock mccoy" Discussed on KTRH
"Okay welcome back to coast to coast with the mark Sikri as we talk about Star Trek the fiftieth anniversary we're going to take your calls next hour things that you can now talk with us about things you have recollected from Star Trek in those kinds of genre films you went to school with Billy Mumy right yes yeah and I've I've known Billy actually since I was seven years old and we've worked together a number of times on number different projects including space command and of that one five so he was and is of course one of the great genre actors from lost in space on and while it's on of course when he got it got in the lost in space or in the twilight zone how did you feel as a kid were you envious it was was envious as sort of feeling like well there's someone like me in this TV show and when I got to meet him when I was seven we traded comic books like that one day I was home sick and I just called him you know I I called the stars of of of lost in space in the phone book and I I got his mom on the phone and then he got on the phone and off we went and so it's it's really fun having with history with him but I wouldn't switch envious is just thinking he was really cool and you know and he's incredibly talented great fun to work with when the when you look at the house Star Trek was put together yeah and how it evolved how do you explain the cold phenomena afterward we know it's really interesting I think Star Trek was a mixture of different things that really hit the sweet spot for what the fans have been waiting for I think when you look at science fiction series prior to Star Trek they were you're lost in space wasn't really that good a show I mean we've had a wonderful cast it was fun but it wasn't deep and profound and meaningful and then start for comes along and felt great characters it's got great escapist fantasy were thinking of just dreaming of being on the enterprise and things would be fun to be a part of that crew and have those kind of interest in the but then it's also commenting on the world so was really this great mixture and I think what happened was that its partial partially this is feeling when show airs on networking when there's a syndication because one of hearing on the network it's once a week at least it was back then because of this it syndication it's five five days a week every single day Monday through Friday you can be watching Star Trek I think being able to see the shows that often because again this was before you could record a show you couldn't there were no video recorders that point and so to watch it you know that gave it enough but you use your scene of not often enough we could really become a huge fan of the show and then you start having Star Trek conventions in the in the seventies and the early seventies and then the Star Trek fans could get together again this is before the internet so I think when started fans started getting together and dressing in those costumes and and also when structure with this the on there were very few products that were released for Star Trek the once a windows cation a somewhat a fan base there was then you start getting the toys and the books and all of these different off products if you could really live Star Trek life tell us about next generation because that's the one you did program for right and if they sign as well that's the thing with every at what essence started going off off the air and they started to be a fan base Herman started thinking about well can we get you know get more more Jews out of this product and so naturally they were gonna bring started back the series in the seventies in nineteen seventy six they start developing so called Star Trek phase two and they got the entire cast except for Leonard Nimoy who was on the outs with run very if he'd been wanting more of a kind of merchandising but US the city you're developing the shell and building sets in Star Wars came out in any of the Star Trek movies instead and those were successful Star Trek the motion pictures Neil wrath of Khan that sector of the year to another Star Trek movie would come out and these were Kirk Spock McCoy but in the van method the idea of okay let's see if we can do another Star Trek TV show the because the movies were Kirk Spock McCoy they had to do something different for the TV show and gene Roddenberry had the brilliant idea of doing a completely different cast setting the show decades later in the chronology and then he came up with cap card and data and all these different characters the amazing thing was a huge success and from the beginning basically and it showed that you could do a Star Trek show had totally different characters and then every few years they've come out with a new Star Trek series so after that came the six nine and then started Voyager and an enterprise and so they kept you coming up with more and more characters and food in a very durable franchise and then of course JJ Abrams did the movie so we've been seeing recently and Bryan fuller's gonna do a new TV show so again you can it but it's always trying to find the story that you haven't seen the characters you haven't seen expanding the universe when I was coming up with stories the Star Trek the next generation and Deep Space Nine and then world of time this is the one I wrote with Michael leaves one with George K. that we shot that directed and eggs and produced it's always like what story have we seen in the and what what comments deeply on the real world in real life the challenge always of course is the more Star Trek stories they're being done and not another thousands of them you have to be very knowledgeable about what they've done find a way to come up with something fresh as challenging but it's it's it's not impossible just takes really digging in and bring your a game your Deep Space Nine episode is still being touted as one of the best yeah for beyond the stars in the fast thinking about that was in that episode Avery books Brooks who plays Kathmandu Cisco finds itself back in the fifties as a science fiction writer and we get to see the science fiction writers of the nineteen fifties it was all the actors who played the D. six nine characters in heavy makeup you get to see what they really look like when they're out of that make up it was great fun and what the inspiration was was that when I was a teenager I I met one of the brightest in the original Star Trek of great writer named Theodore sturgeon he became one of my mentors and he's written for those magazines galaxy an astounding Amazing Stories back in the fifties and I realized this not for those writers who wrote for the first five six magazines for the love of it before there was a Star Trek or Star Wars they were writing for any word five cents words they weren't getting rich but because they loved it they were clean these amazing universes that lead to Star Trek and Star Wars and I wanted to pay tribute to that area and those writers and talk about why we write science fiction and how we can have a profound meaning if you're writing the truth of your life using science fiction to show a possible future and so that's what I was writing about in that in that episode mark we're going to take calls with you next hour but at the time we've got left this hour let's talk a little bit about some of the other things you've been working on this so tell me about this new edition of The Twilight Zone companion well you know my publisher I've been talking about it now with II books you can have links to audio and video and and things that used to only be available in in in in university archives are now on the internet you can you can just click through and and watch incredible rarities rod Serling you know lectures in commercials and all sorts of stuff and so I wanted to have access to that material and also so basically with the new addition it has over a hundred pages of new tax that have hundreds of new photographs it's got links to audio and video we're just finishing up now it'll be it'll be a very very soon and and it's going to be terrific I mean they'll include photos when I when I finish the pilots and companion back in the eighties a we had a Twilight Zone party and the actors in the producers and directors and and and and Carol Serling and they all came to the insect which did George Kay was there any photographs or full in color and they've never been printed and we'll have that that stuff too so it's gonna be great great fun I interviewed the writer of a book called Dr Feelgood it was about a doctor who would in jacked I sort of methamphetamine in the John F. Kennedy and Jackie and some of my other Hollywood stars and this guy you get this guy said rod sterling was on that list really that's interesting well I haven't heard that but the rod certainly drove himself hard you know and and back then people didn't know the dangers of of amphetamines and as we do now were legal right exactly and but I mean you know those those guys were that doesn't have the having we generation they they worked hard the drain car the smokes card that was that was what a man's man wasn't you're serving was a soldier in World War two and he really nowadays they would've said he had PTSD coming out of the war but he he used writing things to work that out work that out that's right exactly exactly good plant amazing amazing man and they create a work that lasted till now phenomenal about what a year and a half ago two years ago you opened up the sci fi do YouTube channel Mr scifi I was going I was having lunch with one zero who was the children of the walking dead and he said that he's a good friend and he said the you use such as a new so knowledgeable of science fiction why don't you start your own YouTube channel where you can just talk about science fiction movies and TV and books because some I know so many stories that all these your friends have told me they've never been published rate Bradley was my mentor for over ten years as you know and and so I thought will that be great so I started my own YouTube channel it's called Mr sci fi and it's funny because there was a great I kind of science fiction and Forrest J. Ackerman and he coined the term the sci fi and he was known as Mr sci fi these another friend of mine and insight I called Mr sci fi as it as a as a tip of the hat to him and he's he's he he died amazing man and so every every week or so I'll post a video about talking about whatever I want talk about with the Star Wars Star Trek or you know rod Serling one of the one of the affected was telling the story of a rod Serling re bread three other friendship fell apart over Twilight Zone and services because ray told me that story after many years he never talked about it publicly nor did rod and so finally they told me the story and I thought now I can pass it on an amazing story and so so so Mr sack physis my little playground I can talk about anything I want to isn't technology amazing to allow people like you like me like anybody to do this yeah it's great what's so funny because I'm doing space command which is a huge epic science fiction story that has you know thousands of visual effects and all of that it's this monstrous big project.
"kirk spock mccoy" Discussed on KTRH
"Star Trek can let's let's go back a little bit because you've done some work on Star Trek haven't you yeah yeah I I wrote for both Star Trek the next generation and the space nine and then I did as a starter kits that was George two K. the got nominated for the Hugo and awards and subs and and start fixing a part of my life ever since I was a little kid the first debuted back in as you know nineteen sixty six and before it even aired the NBC commissioned a piece of artwork by an artist named James stamina and they would run for ten seconds is just the still illustration thing coming in the fall Star Trek and I would see this planet and this is rocketship blazing around the station placing on this planet in two guys and it went by so quickly this is before video recorders and have watched the thing that's it right up against the screen waiting for this commercial and it's like kinda guy in the in the back ones have pointed ears and and I couldn't wait to see the show and then the first episode aired and with that so called the mantrap written by my dear friend George Clayton Johnson and he's been a Twilight Zone writer he will kick the can and nothing in the dark a wonderful writer and it was an amazing episode and from then on I was hooked it was just that was that was really it for me did you ever think that you'd be doing some work on it we know it's funny when when I was a kid a book came out called the making of Star Trek and this is when the street the show was on the air was written by Steven with field and gene Roddenberry and and was the first book I read about how the TV show was made and that really plan of the sea where I start thinking we know I'd like to be a writer producer in television and that kind of set me on that that path and and so my dream was to create and run my own space going science fiction show and that was space command that's exactly what I'm doing and and so it's just a dream come true but it was very much set in motion I would gene Roddenberry created back back then and it only lasted three seasons yeah and it's funny because you know they were actually gonna cancel at the second season and the woman a beach Trimble started a letter writing campaign and and picketing campaign I was part of that as a kid I remember holding my little picket signs standing outside with a crowd outside NBC and writing my little letter they a million letters were sent to NBC and that convinced me to renew the show and it got its third season and then if not for the third season it never would have gone into syndication it wouldn't have those and no one would have ever heard of it again and in fact we started initially aired I was so worried it would never air again that I actually recorded it on reel to reel audio tape as a kid okay so this was never aired I used to love those machines yeah yeah yeah why didn't succeed in the ratings mark well you know the funny thing is back then the Nielsen ratings just registered book numbers the not not how many millions of people watching an episode the year after Star Trek went off the air they switch over cynical demographics when you check not only how many people watching it the one group of people Anne rice yeah and the eighteen to thirty five demographic was the perfect buying demographic and the year after started going off the air they ran the demographics and the top rated show the number one show for that eighteen thirty five demographic that they all wanted to start all my god do they freak out the yes because of that if they ever had demographics the year earlier they never would have canceled Star Trek all my gosh it with and they would have made money on that show right that's right another funny thing are another safety about Star Trek with is incredibly colorful you know with those beautiful red and gold and blue uniforms were very colorful enterprise bridge well the the network that airs start because NBC and its parent company with RCA television as they wanted to sell color TV's and one of the reasons the green that Star Trek was because of those bright primary colors because people would buy color TV's just to see Star Trek may actually run ran RCA color TV advertisements for Star Trek so that on showing them on color TV's and the random and all the national magazines I have I have some of those ads that saves since then we've had on the program here William Shatner you brought us George Takei yeah N. I think that was it just those two yeah well they're they're they're great I mean their unforgettable there the stink of actors and wonderful and again that speaks the diversity of Star Trek because again when started debuted in nineteen sixty six you didn't have African American actors leave like Michelle Nichols or Asian American actors in the lead like George two K. these were characters were dynamic they were going on adventures they were they were treated with respect by captain Kirk Mr Spock and Dr McCoy it was like a surrogate family of people all getting along all reaching out of the crosstown these of race and ethnicity to each other and when you think about it Star Trek aired during the nineteen sixties this is the height of the civil rights era it was the Vietnam War was going on the moon the moon landings were happening I mean is an incredibly politically active time very for filled with a little bit of political and social turmoil and upheaval and change it was just the perfect time for that show debut what a tragedy a few months ago when Anton Yelchin the Star Trek actor died in a freak accident when his jeep rolled down and crushed him I know crazy and yet and yet at least he works in a medium where we get to see his work and enjoy it and it was a wonderful actor and again the start the characters in the Star Trek actors are so distinctive in some memorable and and the fact that the well educated could pass the torch to Anton Yelchin if you could do the the you know the the checkout so memorably you'll definitely be remember I think we have Walter until yes and he's and he's another very distinctive diagonal and wonderful actor and and again each Star Trek character is so distinctive when when I wrote when I world wilderness in time it was Kirk Spock McCoy through all of those characters and they all speak differently from each other they all have different viewpoints rock line will not work for Kirk will not work from quite vice versa they all are very distinct sense and that's why they lasted and they didn't we have James two hands ashes sun off into space it will run very for to I went to major Barrett Roddenberry as a house when I recorded her for the computer voice in world enough and time and robbers ashes with that they've been sent up in the space shuttle and and then brought back and so that's a very fitting testament so again what was it like being on that Star Trek set when you were a kid well you know I was given a Christmas present of a trip to the star trek's that when I was a kid it was great the greatest Christmas present ever and it was the last episode of the original Star Trek ever shot if I'd gone a week later that showed him and gone and it was an F. so called turnabout intruder in which Kirk's of personality is swapped with a woman woman scientists and and it was we've shattered event in Mitchell there to play this chapel and and and the fourth Kelly please doctor McCoy is amazing walking the sense that was sold the nominal and and and fasting because one of the stage hands said last show of the season and under her breath major variants that last show ever and the irony was that decades later I I recorded her as a computer voice for the starter kits that I did thirty years later and so is so she was not only wrong about last show ever on on Star Trek she was wrong that even herself because she would continue on Star Trek in later incarnations on Star Trek the next generation in the features and so forth though just phenomenal you and George went to Japan at a convention in you we did yes well when when we have world enough and time and and that yes I did with him and you you can actually watch it on my my website mark sickly dot com in its entirety and after we shot that so we went to the world science fiction convention in Japan between the th of an audience of three thousand people we got a standing ovation with the crowd with it with with tears streaming down their faces and then the next we were nominated for top award in science fiction the Hugo award which is given out of the world science fiction convention so it was just mazing honor and to be there in Japan with George he's fluent in Japanese and so we were answering questions I would be feeling the questions in English and he would be answering Japanese and I just on the other day there was a big a star technician Las Vegas to celebrate the fifty of that fifty members I went to it and and George and I were able to reconnect and I very much want to miss this command so we've been talking about the roles of the things this command was Shatner there yes and it was it it's amazing he is he's eighty five years old and you could never tell yes this doesn't look that not not at all and and energy level he seems like a much younger man is phenomenal and as is George decayed George doesn't seem is that like a guy pushing eighty either these are amazingly vital and vibrant people in and phenomenal actors and the you know Star Trek just would have been the same without that group now it was a very special group it was it was lightning in a bottle you know it's amazing because you know Twilight Zone ended in nineteen sixty four and then the two two years later Star Trek the view that engine run very was very much a friend and a protege of rod Serling's in fact he gave the eulogy at rods funeral and and run very was very aware of it's not for twice and you couldn't have Star Trek and and he cast it's funny because the first pilot he did a pilot for Star Trek called the cage that was actually shot nineteen sixty four is our Jeffrey hunter as captain pike it didn't sell the show and so they ordered a second pilot and that's when I got shot there and and the chemistry between William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy deforest Kelley in the rest of the cast it's just was magical and you could see it from the beginning from the first episode that aired you just know knew that these people were unforgettable and and they stayed on forgettable all these decades five you're fifty years as you said mark also had on the not the originals but I had Jolene Blalock on and on the tall yet no bleach on yeah yeah both of them great great folks but when it was really fascinating again is that run very you know when he came up with Star Trek the next generation he showed that it was the universe he created and you could have other actors and will continue to be successful and now with the new Star Trek movies in the Star Trek series is coming down the pike it's really hot legs and and it's it's such an amazing amazing universe to play and I mean having having come up with stories for captain Picard and for corporate all these are the characters I can speak to just how how vibrant all these characters are and and how wonderful these actors are in again I'm working with them both in the Star Trek universe and in space command Robert Carter when the number the Star Trek actors and continuing to work with just because these are phenomenally talented people and and when you meet them you say gosh I don't I don't want to see and I just wanna keep keep working with these guys how would you compare the Star Trek series to the Star Wars an herb is Star Wars film me yeah you know it's funny the very very different I think you know Chris personally have as much as I like Star Wars my I much prefer star track and I think it's much deeper in its rumination on the.
"kirk spock mccoy" Discussed on X96
"But yeah, it's it's a tough one yet because we were all raised in a religion. And then began to see the world and meet a lot of people who were not the same as us. We began to realize that maybe some of the stuff that we were taught in told by our parents was not accurate. And my parents were alive. You can really make a great, but a bunch of growth the minute that you realize that just because your parents said it doesn't necessarily mean that it's correct. And may I say Carey, and that's tough to do for some people mad s is going to be really upset about. There are other things though. Yes, that you look at as you get older, and you go now, I get one. My parents told me that when I was younger I thought they were full of it. And and now that thing makes sense. I guess the the broader point here is you need to be be critical of of the things around you make up your own mind. Mama told me not to come that. Ain't the way to go home. She told me that all the time. What's good? You know, what's good auto? Is. You don't know you. I think that I think we all still no matter. How wise we think we are make mistakes you make mistakes because you you you think this is the right way to go. Oh, no. It wasn't. No, no. No. No, no. I did the wrong thing. There you still make mistakes you still make errors in judgment. There's no way around it. And that's okay tie. You learn. But I think mostly, you know, what's good. And what's not if I'm ever puzzled? I just think to myself what would captain America do captain Kirk anymore. Not so much captain Kirk. You know, he's screwed up every now. And then if you're giving us the Star Trek analogy, I use the the God head the trilogy Kirk Spock McCoy, they each bring something to the party. And sometimes you need to ask Dr McCoy what to do alcohol. That's what I bring to the party. You know, actually carry that's a good point. You should have a diverse group of people in your life that come from different backgrounds and different educations in different experiences. Because because sometimes you need somebody from a different point of view to help you understand something you shouldn't surround yourself with people that all in love. And we do we do accidentally almost we always live in the in the neighborhoods where there are people like us. We try to we read the same magazines that are stories and books that are that we should seek out you should diversity. And we're all in this room were guilty of I have a neighbor. I don't know him very well. But first conversation I ever had with them in. This is a guy who's gone to Harvard is on the board of Harvard law review. I mean, he's and he has a big family, and he. He when he moved into the house and said, yeah, I we lived in Draper, Santer some. But I thought it would be good for my kids to see what it's like to live in more urban setting. We so we moved here down next to Bill all extant sinners. But that's that was a purposeful. This would have been easier to stay out in the suburbs. And I thought it would be good. If we moved down here to see what it's like to live in town..