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"kingsley" Discussed on Poetry Unbound
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"kingsley" Discussed on TFG Truth
"I mean, it's the simplest way to say it. Real quick before I let you go. Trump desantis, that's what it's breaking down to, right? Obviously speaking of the grooming thing you saw desantis today, I'm sure, again, we're pre taping this, but desantis suspended the attorney general, I believe it was down there. For not following suit. Where do you think this goes with desantis? Do you think he is setting himself off the run or do you think he stays in other two, four, 6, whatever years in Florida before taking the jump and let Trump take the reins here for the next four or 6 years? I think that he is definitely setting himself up to run eventually. I don't know that that will be 20 24. But I think he certainly has presidential ambitions. I think that's obvious to most people, but I don't see him necessarily going head to head with Trump if Trump does decide to jump in the ring again just because Trump is so popular and I think still has a little bit of him. You know, I think he definitely has one more term. And desantis is still pretty young. So I think that there's no issue with him waiting. But I will say the way he has governed Florida is heroic, honestly. Like how he handled Fauci and the lockdowns, how he's just gone after this grooming stuff. And I think why he is so incredible is because he is a rare Republican. He is a Republican that's not afraid to use the power of the state. To meet his end goals. And I think a lot of Republicans, a lot of conservatives, you know, they stray from big government, but I think that a few select people realize big government is where we are. It's not going away. We've gone down that path, the welfare state we're unfortunately never getting rid of it. We're stuck with it. So let's use this infrastructure to further our agenda, right? Because that's what the left has done for years, and they've just been killing us. So we have to get aggressive and use, you know, whether it be the just governor governor's powers, or various avenues. We just have to really go after these people. And say, you know, that's not allowed in our state. We're not going to permit that. You can't do that here. And if you don't like it, you're out of a job. And to your point, too, about to show the stark difference between how New York handled COVID over the last two plus years because we still live in it because everything's a health emergency here and how Florida did.
"kingsley" Discussed on TFG Truth
"I always kind of counter the Ben Shapiro, you know, facts don't care about your feelings. I think the modern left, we've really realized that feelings don't care about your facts, right? They're going to stick to their feelings and totally disregard the facts. They don't even care. They won't even listen, you know? So I think that as conservatives, we almost, and I think that this is uncomfortable for a lot of conservatives. And I think that that's good. It speaks highly of us. But I think we have to almost be willing to get a little bit nasty. And be a little bit forceful and just as aggressive as they are because if we don't we're going to wake up and lose our country, right? I think we are so honest and want to debate in an intellectual manner and want to hear the other's opinions. But when the other side doesn't want to hear your opinion at all, you're going to have to be a little bit aggressive in your actions and how you kind of interact with them. And I think that a lot of conservatives, that's just not something that comes as naturally to them as it does Democrats. So I think that going forward, we're going to need some flame throwers on our side and just, you know, people that are ready to just be street fighters. And to just throw some punches. So that's what I really am excited about when I look forward to 2022 because I think we have a lot of candidates that are willing to be those people. For so long, for publicans have campaigned on all the issues that we love and then they get to D.C. and they totally sell out. They sell out their constituency and they become swamp insiders. And I think for the first time, we have a lot of candidates, Blake masters, JD Vance, Anthony sabatini, a lot of different people come to mind. We have candidates that are willing to go and just kind of say screw the system. We're going to fight for our side every single day. We're not going to become D.C. insiders, bellway insiders who totally disregard the needs and wants of middle class Americans. So there's a lot of people that I think will really be an incredible force for change if they get elected in 2022. But I think you bring up a good point I don't even know if you meant to. With a lot of these folks, you know, you mentioned those three Matt Gaetz Marjorie Taylor Greene even a couple of people I met down at the turning point about, it's youth. It's youth. We need more youth, right? Like if you look at the biggest players in politics right now and taking Trump out of it for a second, Nancy Pelosi, 82, I think she is? Chuck Schumer in his late 70s, right? Obviously, Biden, we don't have to talk about that any further. But the Doctor Fauci, I know he's not a politician, but he's doing a lot of running of the country with his mandates. These people are all 80 something or high upper 70s. When can we get a little younger? And that's, you know, I love Trump and I would vote for Trump again in a heartbeat. I'll be the first to say that. But that's what steers me toward a desantis a little. There's a give me some youth and freshness and politics because the people running our country are all in the late 70s, early 80s, and to me, they don't represent people like you or me.
"kingsley" Discussed on TFG Truth
"But I will say that, you know, I think he does deserve a lot of credit for exposing the rotting politically discriminatory culture that is Twitter. But to answer your question, whether or not I think it can be fixed, my answer would be no. I think the reality is Twitter is so broken that it can't be fixed. The company has completely sold out to the far left agenda of censoring speech and controlling what we say online. And that censorship, I think, has unfortunately contaminated every aspect of Twitter, right? From a junior lover staff junior level staffers with a highest executive employees at the company. So I think to really fix something like Twitter, you would have to completely clean house. And I just don't know that that is necessarily a viable solution. If anyone can be surprising, it's definitely Elon Musk and he's definitely the person that could do the impossible. But if I am not a gambler in any sense, but if I were a betting woman, I would definitely bet against him being able to fix Twitter. One interesting thing you mentioned bots on the tech side as well is that Elon Musk said Twitter's daily active user number would have to be quadrupled for the company to be at all profitable. And I think it's going to be a real challenge to get people off the sidelines. You might remember this. He went on Twitter and tweeted, you know, Justin Bieber has, he's in the top ten followed one of the top ten followed accounts on Twitter, and he hasn't posted in a year. I think he said the same of Taylor Swift, right? So I think getting people to re-engage with a platform that the marketplace inherently views as negative is going to be a herculean task. Like you said, you use Twitter a lot. I use Twitter a lot, but I hate it. I mean, it's a negative overall negative experience. You feel like you go on it because you have to or it's the only place that you can get news. So I think there really is an appetite for a place where you can get everything you love about Twitter, but without the censorship and without the
"kingsley" Discussed on TFG Truth
"Alrighty, welcome back, financial guys, media network, Mike braza here. Today with special guest, we've had her on the show before. Kingsley Cortez, Kingsley Cortez, get her deputy to the CEO and director of ops. I'm glad I got that right because that's a mouthful there. I'll be back. First off, it's been a while since we talked. Yeah, so great to be with you again. I've been good. Things are going really, really well at getter. We just celebrated our one year anniversary on July 4th. So that's our birthday in a sense because we declare independence from big tech on that day, right? That's our whole mantra, and kind of ethos as a company. And that was really exciting for us. We were able to roll out our new DM feature. So I think a lot of our users are really enjoying that. And we had a lot of other cool milestones were officially at 6 million users right now. And we're in 192 different countries around the world. So we have a lot of people across the globe who are interested in using getter who are interested in breaking free from the big tech Silicon Valley oligarchs and exercising their free speech. And we also notch 200 million live stream views since we launched that feature in October of 2021. So we have a lot of cool features, I think, you know, that Twitter doesn't. So we're able to be really competitive with them in that sense. And we're just really moving forward and excited about the future. Our goal is to really just be sort of a one stop shop for content creators and just everyday people on both sides of the aisle who are just fed up with people telling them what they can and can not say. So getter is really a great community for everybody. To just find a place where they can express themselves, how they want to, and try out our new features, we recently just rolled out, you mentioned, before when we were chatting, you mentioned you were at turning point. We just rolled out a feature that a lot of our young people really love. It's called vision. It's sort of a TikTok Instagram reels kind of feel, so we've got a lot going on at getter and we're really excited about the trajectory. We'll get into the censorship in a few minutes. I do have one question, obviously, truth social. I don't know how long that's been around now, but it took me like three months to get a profile, which was kind of a pain in the ass, but have you guys seen competition there? I mean, obviously with the Elon Musk Twitter stuff going on right now, are you guys seeing more of growth right now, more competition with you guys right now? What's the deal between all three of those? I guess we'll call them Twitter getter and true socials. Right. Yeah, so I think it's funny. I think when we first launched, we didn't really experience a ton of competition from platforms like gab locals and parlor. You know, those weren't really necessarily our competitors that we were worried about in a sense. But I think now the field has gotten a little bit more crowded. You're right. We have true social and a lot of other people who are kind of jumping in the arena here. So I think for us, you know, we kind of welcome that because obviously competition makes us better. And I think that if we are going to take down big tech, that's such a behemoth, right?
"kingsley" Discussed on 77WABC Radio
"But they will pay a legal and financial price I assure you of this In an effort to dramatize Democrats performative outrage the committee has reportedly discussed hiring a journalist to write its reports and create videos To blast across the Internet that are also featured in televised hearings potentially in prime time Two people with knowledge of the reports say the committee wants it to include gripping testimony in quotes along with starring roles for key players in the events leading up to and on January 6th the post wrote represented Peter Aguilar Democrat California Told The Washington Post an interview the committee is committed to ensuring the report isn't written in congressional research service style So this is a complete fraud It's a complete political rogue operation paid for by you and me the American taxpayer And these people should not be involved in any of this They've already reached their conclusions they did a long time ago And right scoop a few days ago Adam Kingsley vows to move heaven and earth to keep Trump from becoming president again This guy's a head case Don't be surprised if he and or Cheney and or Hogan and or some of the other reprobates Run for the Republican nomination for president not to win but to get all this attention they can and to try and destroy If Trump runs Trump or to Santos or Kutner whomever else is there He says Trump can not be president against kings So all their talk ladies and gentlemen all their talk About the legitimacy of elections and the processes and so forth look who's breaking the rules look who the frauds are These are pute knights too These are stalinized too They think the same way and they act the same way Your mortgage is undoubtedly one of the largest investments of your life It's critical that you pay attention to it to the equity you've gained And to the interest rate you pay on your balance because rates are going up They already started And I saw some data last week that said there are still 5 million homeowners who can benefit from a lower rate and many of them are listening to me right now That means it's very important you call American financing why American financing because they're the best of the best.
"kingsley" Discussed on TFG Truth
"And to your point about the election too, I mean, forget the polls for a second and the actual mail in ballots and all that. I mean, the fact that you essentially silenced a sitting president numerous times on Twitter and some of those other ones, right? I know they took away his Twitter afterwards, but they were censoring tweets left right and center, right? And they're still doing it to a lot of people. I just saw one of the guests we had Tony konat, his chalkboard review, Twitter was taken down a couple of weeks ago. I mean, that to me is election interference. But before you even get to the ballots and all that stuff, forget the ballots for a second. The fact that you're silencing people because you either don't agree with them or you don't like them, it's just unacceptable. And again, you look at terrorist organizations have twitters, yet a president who wants to shoot his mouth off with, which that's his opinion, he can do what he wants to do. I would have liked him to maybe calm himself a little bit at times, but he's free to say what he wants to say. He's not threatening people. He's not, you know, forcing people to do something or, you know, trying to kill people. I mean, he's just, he's telling things how he feels and that was it. The fact that they silence that on numerous occasions and not to mention his campaign, they silence, they silence people in his inner circle. I mean, to me, that is that is the biggest deal more than even the ballots to me. Definitely, I would certainly agree with you. And I would even add, you know, it wasn't just individual members of his campaign or even the president himself. It was also a stories that put Biden in a negative light. I think of the Hunter Biden laptop story in particular. Remember the New York Post being censored, that's where you were unable to share it on Twitter, which is just absolutely crazy that right there is election interference in and of itself, right? How do they not, how do they not accept that that's wrong? They just that brazen because they have Trump derangement syndrome. That's why, because they hated them so much. I mean, that's what it is. I mean, literally, when you can find things like from ISIS and just disgusting, horrible, atrocious things. And then find out, you just said my chalkboard review gets taken off. Are you kidding me? How do they even see those as even close to being similar? I mean, so it seems like atrocities can stay on, but a different point of view can not. I just can't get over that. Like, I can't get over how bold they are. And that's why I think they win. I mean, you know, there seems to be no middle ground. Like you can't say that there were definitely some election fraud issues and then say that the election should have gone Trump's way. I mean, you know, there might be a middle ground. Like there's no wage President Biden got all that many votes. There's just no way. There's no way that many more people showed up than who showed up for Obama. Like, give me a break. People just are willing to accept that..
"kingsley" Discussed on TFG Truth
"Realize that that's not the right approach to worry about everybody else because that's the tough part. I think a lot of people and I know a lot of them, you know, I've had people say to me, you know, I don't care about China, Russia. It's not that big of a deal, but yet then they vote for people that that's all they care about is China and Russia, right? When is the American, your basic average American citizen, I'll say like one of us, right? When when are those people going to wake up? That's my question. Yeah, no, I think that that's a really important question. And I think, you know, part of the answer is independent media like this, right? The mainstream media, legacy media, so often, tells the story of D.C. and New York. You know, that's where their newsrooms are. And they're so out of touch with everyday Americans. And I think that often too, these media outlets, they talk more and Ukraine and make it sound like it's the most important thing. When average Americans are maybe just really hurting from inflation right now. So independent media I think is much more is able to much more kind of relate to the average American and tell a story. Maybe that editors at CNN won't or refuse to, right? I think that independent media often are the individuals who say, hey, this is the way that we've been talking about foreign policy for years. This is the way the quote unquote experts on CNN panels talk about foreign policy. But let's look at foreign policy a different way. Maybe we shouldn't be involved in a border that's not ours. Maybe we shouldn't be sending troops halfway across the world. You know, when we have horrible crime in our blue cities here. So I think that independent media is able to kind of exert a little bit more creativity, if you will. And kind of talk about issues in a way that is new. And in a way that is fairly something that Trump kind of allowed them to do. And I have to agree Kingsley. I think the independent media is now a great source for people who said, wait, this is all now affecting me. This is now affecting my job. This is affecting my.
"kingsley" Discussed on TFG Truth
"So I just have so little faith in all of those people in Washington, but it's really getting serious now and when Putin is basically saying, I'm declaring these parts of Ukraine, the eastern parts of Ukraine to be independent. I mean, how bad can it get, do you think Kingsley? I think, unfortunately, it will get very bad with Biden at the helm. He is a commander in chief who has just feckless and weak. I like to call him the cadaver in chief. We're sleepy Joe, whatever you prefer. When Russia, you know, is kind of engaged in this conflict with Ukraine, the worst sort of president to have is a weak one. And unfortunately, that's what we have right now. And I certainly do not trust my non foreign policy at all. I think that his track record on foreign policy is absolutely abysmal. I know that he lobbied for China's inclusion into the WTO in 2001, and then the decade after 2001 from 2001 to 2011, the United States lost 2.7 million jobs to the Chinese. So Biden has always acted in the interests of the globalist corporatist class, right? He has always been an America last politician. So I certainly feel very, very trepidatious, having him at the helm when, you know, a lot of things are kind of heating up. With Ukraine and with Russia, I hope that I'm wrong and you mentioned 2022. I do think that there are a lot of really exciting candidates that are running this cycle that we can be excited about who aren't their traditional rhinos, like the Paul ryans of the world. I think there are a lot of trumpian outsiders. So I do think that 2022 will be a great year for the Republican Party. And I'm hopeful that it is because the trajectory we're on now is certainly not inspiring and very, very, very. And here's my other, I'm very curious to why and I'll let you speak on this in your experience. But why did the America first agenda that Trump had? Get so much flack because at the end of the day, we have to take care of us first, right? We're seeing it at the border right now. Letting people just walk across and we've interviewed sheriff Mark Daniels before and his experiences have been just atrocious. I feel terrible for him. Why is America first not important? We don't care about our own border, yet we're going to help Ukraine with theirs, right? We have to worry about us first. It's like anything, right? You have to worry about your family first or your career first or whatever it may be. Imagine if we went around and said, oh, I really care about that attorney over there. I should really help him because he needs help. If I can't help myself, how can I help somebody else? Right, exactly. I always give the analogy, you know, when you're on an airplane, they tell you to put your own mask on first before assisting others, right? And I think that that is really what the America first policy in essence kind of means, right? If there are problems at home, we need to fix those problems before we can even engage in fixing problems abroad. I.
"kingsley" Discussed on TFG Truth
"With my K flick and Mike or each and every week we report facts, exposed hypocrisy and espouse common sense. This week we are super pleased to be joined by former Trump campaign executive assistant and since last June, deputy to the CEO of getter, also a UCLA grad Kingsley Cortez, Kingsley, thanks for joining us today. Thanks so much for having me. Yeah, there's a lot to talk about. And I can tell just from seeing a lot of the things you do online that you're not afraid to sort of give your opinion. Have you always been this way? Definitely. I think, you know, going to a school like UCLA, as you mentioned, I was certainly in the minority, so I always had to kind of fight my corner every day. So I think yeah, so I've always been this way. I think that the political climate that we're in right now, it's really important for conservatives to stand their ground and to fight for what they believe in. I think so often the left tries to silence us, right? And when we lose, is when the left makes us feel like we're alone. But we're not alone. There are so many conservatives across this country who love this country and are willing to fight for it. So I hope that I can play a small part in that. And I know you guys are trying to do the same. So we all just need to keep up the good fight and this country is worth preserving. It's amazing too, Mike. Every young guest we have, right? It says the same thing. They were in college. We had Kylie stone on. She said the same thing. She's getting essays about how to promote the Taliban, essentially, is what her assay had to be about why they're not a terrorist organization, right? It seems like every young conservative is either silenced in colleges or they have to go through hell because they're the minority in college. It's pretty amazing stuff. Yeah. Kingsley, did you have a moment in college where you go, all right, I'm a little intimidated. It's a huge campus. You know, a lot of new people to meet professors to understand, try to get good grades and all that. But did you have a moment where you said, oh my gosh, I can't let this just go the way it's going. I think definitely. As a political science major politics obviously was kind of at the forefront of what I was learning each and every day. And at a school like UCLA, unfortunately, you know, there really isn't diversity of thought. They only care about diversity of skin color and things like that, which is just idiotic, right? Because ideas are so much more important than someone's skin color or religion. Or ethnic group, ideas are really what we should be engaged in debating in university. And unfortunately, only one side of the story was told in each class. I tell people I am somewhat thankful for that, right? Because I was challenged every day and I think that that allowed me to almost get more out of my UCLA education than the individuals who, you know, their beliefs were just affirmed day in and day out. But it was definitely difficult. I remember a point in my American government class in particular when my professor said, you know, to be an American means to exterminate the native. Write an essay on that. And I think, you know, just to boil down what it means to be an American as that alone is ludicrous and crazy, but unfortunately that's what our kids are being taught, not just in colleges now, but you know CRT is creeping its way into even preschools, which is just absolutely bonkers..
"kingsley" Discussed on LifePix Relationships With ST
"You're having an awesome day. I am super excited to be doing as episode. Two hundred episode. That only happen because you tuned in each and every episode so for today we are going to be answering your questions that you submitted by the re previous guests that you guys loved our first guest today. Is sarah take from episode eighty nine. Hey sarah thanks so much for having me great. You wanna tell us a quick little bit about yourself for people who didn't listen to previous episodes don't know much value will. I am currently the ceo of jewish family services of greater charleston in charleston south carolina and my background is. I'm a licensed couples and family therapist. Awesome next up. We have is kingsley. Mojo from episode. Ninety seven how are you kingsley. Not too bad as she thank you for having me I have been in pastoral counseling for the pasta. Seven years I'm about to finish As emerging family therapist. so i've been doing marriage education relationship mentoring Speaking on an author of a book the factor which is on relationships family friends in intimate relationships. And i have my own podcast. Relationship factor. just for millennials in relationships. Oh yeah and less up. We have here dave jenkins thank you from episode one thirty three for being here super excited. You wanna tell us a little bit about yourself will thank you again for the invite back. I really appreciated so just a brief about myself. I am retired army as mental health. Counselor currently a marriage and family therapist. And i worked for the us government as an employee assistance counselor during the day in the evenings weekends. Have a private practice wearing Help local couples awesome. Okay so let's start with. Our first question was actually wasn't from someone specific. It was from hundreds and hundreds of comments that until media especially to dot but a few couple videos from people on previous episodes. Who were speaking about. Your partner doesn't make you feel a certain way you are the one biggest Choose how to what emotions. You're feeling what what how you're gonna react them than what you're going to be doing in this situation. Now a lot of people could not wrap their hands heads around it all different people from different backgrounds were saying this in their own way and known was able to really understand but you do make me feel this way. You are the one that caused me to feel like this and so because of that i am angry. Could you explain to us. What does it mean that. I still responsible for how i feel and you don't make me feel specific way. Who wants to go. i will. it's always easier to jump on in. They're trying to break the is so i'll jump on in there. When it comes to emotions in our own expectations many times we have a preconceived idea of getting our party to validate us in tobacco up and then we find that they don't validate us or don't You do the things that we expected. We have an emotional reaction Win our partner validates the way we feel like you get me. You understand me. I love it. You must love me. You must think like me however when they don't in they have a mind of their own as boasts adults. Do we go frustrated. It's like how dare you not validate my viewpoint in so therefore since you don't validate.
"kingsley" Discussed on The Photographer's Journey
"And she was just I don't know, we're just having fun and I said, hey, let's just go do some photos right against the white wall. I'm just going to do some things similar to the photo that you saw of Robbie amell. Just want to wait kind of nice black and white kind of striking image. And she's wearing a sweater and we're just doing this photos. And it was with an old Panasonic GF one, like ten year old little tiny little micro four thirds camera that I just had picking around. And if you actually look at the images and you compare it to what I normally use like a D 8 50, there's almost like when you're looking at it online or something like there's almost no difference in terms of quality, right? So really, I'm looking at these two images, and I'm like, it's not about the camera. It's about the image itself. It's about the subject, it's about all these things. And the camera is just a tool to get the job done. And if you're, you know, if you're a good work, you know, you have a good craft and or if you're a good craftsman, you should be able to create a solid image with any tool that you have. And but all I have to say, the whole meaning in terms of seeing in front of interesting things, it's like, yeah, you can have the most technically perfect image. And, you know, but it's something that's uninteresting while it's not going to be no one's no one's going to care how good technically the quality is. So you really have to kind of stand out and stand in private interesting things. That's why this most important is to get out there and actually do stuff. You know, that's how you create the images, and that's how you get the visuals that you want. Tell me a little bit about your work. So I'm looking at your website, Jerry, Kingsley dot com. I believe.
"kingsley" Discussed on The Photographer's Journey
"Their work, their inspiration, and how they have grown their businesses. Welcome to episode one of the photographers journey. This is our first episode in season one called photographers, COVID and the future. I'm talking to photographers about their photography journey, how COVID has impacted their professional lives and their outlook for the future. I hope that the stories we share with you will be a source of inspiration for you as you continue on your own journey through the pandemic and beyond. It's my pleasure to welcome our first guest Jerry Kingsley. Hi, thanks for having me..
Bayern Munich go 10 points clear in Bundesliga
"Start in the boondocks league. Your league leaders buyer munich. Child hurt the berlin just before they head off to fiba club world cup and get a one nothing win rare robert levin penalty miss in this one goal coming in the twenty. First minute from kingsley. Call on that. The difference by munich on picking up the three points and what it means in the boondocks league table is the firing are now ten points clear of second place. Leipzig the big gap continues to grow as byron munich cases yet. Another league title. Look at that and dortmund both right now. Outside of the champion spots well stevie. We expected to win. That match was nervous at the end. Well the the long of the game when on the more heffer actually you could see the believed that they could get something you know they could. They probably could and should have been three octane. This game could have been over but it wasn't me dope ski obviously missing. The penalty was huge. And as i said the longer it went on the stock to to get closer and closer culminating with two minutes to go all the way through hostage score but just just weighed. In the game's over.
"kingsley" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"Brad will help help you out there as far as any of those questions as well. All right, so you're take us far as this game because Green Bay a little bit Banged up this far is on the defensive side of the bond, of course, on the offensive line. We know Bach Tari is that and that's the left tackle. That's really protected Aaron Rodgers. But there is One of their defensive players. That is out. Hold on just for me. Make sure that I have Yeah. Kingsley Kiki Kingsley on the defensive line. Hey, is doubtful. Now he was listed is out. But because of concussion you still listed as doubtful guy that has five sacks on the year and is part of that defensive line Where us far is this game and I'm trying to see Let me get an update on Cooper Cup if they've moved him up at all, because I know he's been questionable. All week, and I know they are hoping to have him back. In fact, I'm looking right there. And it just still says with that knee injury, I'm just saying, Brad the way I saw him go to the locker room. I'll be surprised if Cooper Cup is effective, even if they do somehow get him on the field, Whether they, you know, somehow they numb whatever pain he's got. But you know when you're a receiver and you cut on a dime like he does, and he's one of the better pattern runners in the league. He really runs a nice, nice route. Um, I think this is a major loss for that offense. Yeah, you know, on offense, it's already you know the deal with the quarterback, the 1st 100% Terry golf and I'm probably gonna be featuring Cam makers who got a lot of Production last week. As far as from the scrimmage. Weatherby rushing receiving. Probably expect a little bit more of the same here in this instance. And you know, I go back to the Packers struggling, you know, on the run game on the defense of front. Last year in the playoffs. So what we'll see Hey, had that run run heavy for the Rams, and I can talk. I think that'll be the case for them. That has me leaning more towards the under on top of it. I mean,.
"kingsley" Discussed on Hyperbrole: A Comedy Advice Podcast
"Little sewn on. Oh hey. I like that. You buy a freaking tanning bed. I'm sure if you go on wish dot show up where you can only tan one hand. At a time you can get one l. work and you get that son you need. It's also unless you live in freaking alaska. You get son. There is on us court. I love that. What if you dress just like they say dress like dress for the job. You want dress for the vacation that you want so dress as if you want son inc. Hawaiian shirt commie bomb. Short shorts short shorts. You gotta go real short real short. Maybe just the speedo get a ham installed right behind your desk and lay on the speedo. The sunscreen on the cheeks one down announced to even got to the t cross on across the face. You know essential absolutely good. Skin there sunscreen on your on your golden. Okay that's great perfect. All right well answered so we're going to move onto the next segment. This next segment is called positive. Spin kingsley. I put this segment in because i feel like whenever we encounter problems our brains they go to the negative and you just start thinking. Oh no what a disastrous thing this is and you don't start to think about how you can get past your obstacles so what i've created is a segment called positive spin where i'm going to give you scenario or set of scenarios and you're yeah think of the bright side the positive make sense. Yeah oh yeah all right so kingsley. Here's a scenario. You're gonna have to come up with some positives for this. It's gonna get worse and worse from this point on you find yourself you wake up and you're thinking oh my god i'm high and then you cannot get sober. You're just high all the time. I don't know if you've got bit by a radioactive bong or what happened but you find yourself constantly high stone out of your mind. You wanna bright side right. Side have few bright sides One whataburger is open. Twenty four hours to I'll have like every night will be probably the best night's sleep i've ever gotten my wife. So you gotta think of the positives. So i really good sleep. Love waterberg sell. Whataburger is gonna be an everyday thing and And cutie has skittles so good beautiful by the way if you have that frame and the diet of water burger and skittles. I envy your metabolism. It'd be a blimp. If that was my guy diet. I feel like By the time. I'm forty it's gonna break down and i'm just gonna die body fall apart. Oh that's one of my body clock sounds we're done. Well you know what they say. A water burger loyalty comes before safety loyal to that. Burn all the matters. So that's good all right good positive spin so now scenario is getting a little worse. You find you're constantly high but it's not marijuana. You are rolling. You're on e. baby. Just ecstasy twenty four seven's ecstasy for seven Never been on ecstasy. It's i don't know what it feels like. Nor have i so. I can't help you from from what i've heard from what i've seen and heard that it's probably the best feeling if you're touched and music so On the right side let's see causes side The hills positive for ecstasy. I feel good all the time. Like it's you're happy. Happy drug so One of constantly happy and that being on top of already constantly being happy is like a highly concentrated dose of happiness which i'm sure will create some type of superpower or at least a good axiom. Ovid i mean jesus that happiness exactly i just i imagine like from that point on. I'd probably like secrete some type of fluid that i could wipe on people and make some. Be careful louis c. k. Said the same exact thing. But i saw i did hear that madeira. They did say that inside the secret ingredient to their vaccine is just kingsley smiles. Ach kingsley fluids secreted really and in a safe way all right okay. that's good. I guess ecstasy. Maybe that was a bad example. Because you just feel good all the time so all right last one your high all the time. But it's bath salts. Shit then. I'll just i get to try brains. Because he turned into his ambi- what is only want bray off the e people for the rest of my leg. I'll eat people on e. Everybody who's at the drive through at whataburger. That's so that is so good. I love that. I love that because my dad. He used to take me hunting and he'd be like the game has a flavor of what it eight so that hit for me i All right good well. I'm glad that you were able to to think of positive things for all three of those drugs. Especially salts kingsley. Ready to move onto our last question and then we will bid each other. I do issue it to liz end before we do that. Here's the question it's from read it. It's by our fan nicole. Thank you nicole for sending his question. It says booth careful. This is a long one. I was robbed at gunpoint ten plus years ago and i'm being asked to speak at the person's parole hearing. I'm going to be vague. I don't want too much personal information getting out but over ten years ago. I was robbed at gunpoint. He stole some cash debit cards and credit cards useless and a pack of six and my electric pencil sharpener. Which irks me to this day. He tried to take my car. I refused and he ran off. I.
"kingsley" Discussed on Hyperbrole: A Comedy Advice Podcast
"A good job as it was amazing is doug. That's off year. Two of doing comedy and you got ask donald rallies. That is amazing. And what how did you feel when you first. When you got up on stage where you're like holy shit i am going to open or i it my first time at stand line to sounds like okay and they're gonna do give me a cold open so they weren't gonna sell the host wasn't gonna go out i i was gonna go out and open and then the host and then they're going to start the show now it's like fuck of okay i can do it whatever but then they slice it up last night that i go okay will go out. The host went out warmed them up. And then i went out. Did my thing in. It was just a goes amazing. Like the biggest roars of laughter. I've ever heard in my life and then amazed just like your family out there and their dislikes saw superman's of just like the whole standup scene in just be doing. There are more so there are more surprised that it were laughing at my jokes but they were just looking at the crowded seeing the crowd. Laugh at my jokes that they were disliked Like this should is funny but we were laughing like everyone else. Everybody was dying so that is incredible. Man that's so cool. And then i was just gonna ask. How did you get into comedy in the first place where. You're just like i'm hilarious. I need this is my calling or Yeah kind of like. I've always had these crazy funny stories. That always tell my friends. Real real shit. That's happened in life and like you ever have some so crazy habit. You just gotta tell your friends. So like i'll be on my way to my friend's house in like i'm prepping the story. 'cause i'm trying to make a suspenseful and make it funny in dislike pretty much this getting set in my head of what happened that night whether it was like a one night. Stand or something like crazy on some crazy shit that happened and then tell the story and then they disliked to see their faces light like laughing into so like in tune with bike. What i'm not say. It's like i think i should try. And i've always wanted to be like martin lawrence. Is those two house like okay. Let me put it together Do standup end. See what happens from there. That is so cool so cool. It just reminded me of the first time. The first time that i ever saw martin lawrence in a movie i think it was. It wasn't one of his best pieces dislike. It was when he got thrown back into medieval times act. I think it's called. The nice or black may not black nate last night. I was probably nine years old. It was one of the best things i've ever seen. I don't know if it ages too well. But i've always learn black now. Have you ever seen this sitcom martin. No i haven't you know seen for no good reason. Either oh my god. I don't know how i mean. No it ages just fine. Because i follow like the martin lawrence like show on instagram in them. Playing the clips. Have me dying but do you got at least three episodes all my gosh. I haven't shied you guys you. Yes you you in some other person. I never seen martin record. I was just like it's just like the craziest thing just not seen it. So dude i know. I know i know i'm i feel ashamed. I shouldn't even admitted it on the everybody. I'm gonna get loads of. Colorado unsubscribe one star mr one-star. Nah nah no no no god. So so martin martin. Lawrence was a big influence. Did you have any other big influences that that you looked up to as you were getting started to look up to Cat williams nice nice. I love cats. Yeah did good. We haven't seen cat williams. I actually like. I got a lot of good information or good advice from jerry seinfeld and you got way. You got advice where he's like. Oh i gotta tell you something kings. What's the deal spun shit lunacy. Ck do you want to hear my jerry's only shit. We are known he. I was watching this video with him. I think him louis. Ck and chris rock just like sitting in a room and His hopefully louis. Ck's pants were on Someone's probably tweeted in there. I don't know but Jerry seinfeld he was like his. The saying was stay in the bits like if it the bids going really good if you just stay in their this run around and keep talking until the jokes like much does not funny then he can move onto your next set because before i'll just run through my set regardless of the last that feels like super good laughs like i'll just keep on truckin along finish but Taking advice like a joke is like killing it in. It's like super funny to stay in their display around in joke and just try to just think of this random things you can save like tag onto the joke or just make it funnier or stew. Something in it until the last idea down and then move onto. The next joke makes for longer set. You know just. I don't know. I felt like i elevated after hearing that in trying to in on stage. That's really really good advice. I love that. Because i i feel like everything is like not everything but especially when you're up in stage you really try to just be in the moment. And that's a crucial thing of being in the moment of recognizing. Hey things are going great for me right now. I'll keep writing this wave. Stay on the crest of laughter until they've dives down and then just go onto the next thing whereas off the wave too early it might be a turbulent ride and going straight to the next joke it might be a jolt for some exactly well kingsley. We'll keep talking about you but this is a self help podcast. So we're going to give some advice as we keep chatting. I have to inspire us. I've got this quote to help us antitrust questions. That fans of senton. Before i send in mind. I like to ask my guests. Do you have any inspirational quotes that help get you through your dark days. Anything that just inspires you to be that smiley kingsley. That you are It's a quotes No pressure and been able to come up with almonds. It's one that really sticks out is You miss one hundred percent of the shots. Don't take i think. Michael scott quoted that.
"kingsley" Discussed on Hyperbrole: A Comedy Advice Podcast
"They welcome guys happy new. It's the first episode in twenty twenty one and boy. Am i pleased. I'm here. I have arrived on my magic audio carpet to give you a whole new episode and it is with kingsley amukamara whole lord kingsley is just a big roman bowl of delight you have to sip the broth i with the first couple of minutes and you go. Wow is this median flavorful. And then you're just gonna be slurp in those audio noodles it your ears and you're gonna be so satisfied at the end. He is a phoenix comedian. He's only doing it for a short time comedy thing. But he's been opening for some greats like donnell rawlings and some others that we talk about. So i had a great time. I want to have him back on. They're going to be links in the show notes to follow him and support him sue. Please do that. send a message to be like kingsley. I really liked her episode. You don't have to speak like that but it's it's preferable if he did tell me he said three octaves. Higher than normal is perfect for praise. So guys i'm really excited the present this to you. I also hope that you guys are doing well. I hope you guys have had some time during this. What is i think sarah tola mash had called this. The taint of the year between christmas and new year's. I know that we're out of the taint. But i hope that you guys have had some time to reflect. Had some time to think about what you wanna do. In twenty twenty one. Twenty twenty was hard. There's no doubt about it. There's a lot of tough and crazy things that happen and so. I'm really glad that we're on the other side of it. I'm glad that you are here. And i'm glad that you're listening. I may not be able to see you. But i feel you. I'm mike patrick swayze in ghost. I'm just holding you from behind as you're listening to the podcast in a non creepy way. But i really. I've had some time to reflect. And i just i really my reaction to everything was just to dive into work and dive into the podcast and so i was doing like five episodes a week and i found myself going into the range of motion and and and getting stressed out about trying to prospect and fine guests trying to get questions and get an agenda together and then be able to do research and edit and all this stuff and it was really draining the joy because i was just going in the motions and then i heard something from denzel washington the other week where he said don't confuse movement for progress and that really hit home for me because i feel like a lot of things that i've been doing and i've been trying to not just you work of in doing podcasting i've been doing some other side projects and i feel that i was confusing movement for progress and so what i'm going to try and do a step back. I have sacrificed other things for those things that i was doing. And i'm going to try and focus on other things that are important and You know focus on friends that i may have neglected family members Anand's and i hope you guys if something hit you share it with me and i'd be happy to share it on the podcast too but i am coming in here in twenty twenty one refreshed with a new perspective where two thousand twenty was all about the grind and i would be trying to find ways to get better better better better better. Just keep moving and moving. And now i'm going to try and just sit back a little bit and focus on what is going to move the needle for me. What is progress. And what is just movement. So that i can have a more well balanced life and i can also focus on what's really important and i hope you guys do that too. I don't really get this serious on the podcast. But i felt i had to share it so i am sorry. No i'm not sorry. I'm grateful i'm grateful for y'all anyway guys here. Is the episode love. Y'all podcast depth and friends to be taken literally was up seven podcast. How do you wanna do. Do you want to just go and casually have little chitty chat and then have it organically go in or do you want to have a big grandiose entrance where i introduced me you and we we get into a formerly we can go to the natural route. The whatever more more comfortable for you. let's let's easier for you. I'm fine with whatever i'm fine with. Whatever man first off. Let's start the. Let's just go casual lashes roll into it a student it. We're recording right. Now we've got you and me and none of the apple and nothing to do except for podcast but dude kingsley amukamara. Yes he said i yes. How how did you practice that row. I fought it so many times in my sleep. My wife heard me kamara. I'm okay. So i'm so google google try to say it for you. I want google ceo. Macabre coup numb attack. They're like it means no worries days. What is by the way it's if you don't let it intimidate you. It's easy to pronounce. I think it itself extended tori. Just how exactly three straight across role on through. I what you gotta do. But i was going to ask what does muka mara mean. Does it have a special significance or it it depends on how you say it. my dad told me there's two different meanings one is like super raunchy. The other one like Some with the lord. Jesus and something okay okay. So one side is jesus. The other ones towelettes or something like some. Yeah like that like if you pronounce it the wrong way. It means like a floor. I saw like to keep this a secret for the rest of my life but whatever it means If he saved the wrong way it means big penis.
Dakotas lead US in virus growth as both reject mask rules
"Actor coronavirus Regina king infections puts on her in director's the Dakotas hat and have introduces been growing faster her film than one anywhere night else in in Miami the nation about over the a last young two Muhammad weeks Ali Johns to the Hopkins Oscar University race researchers say north and South it Dakota was quite have led the country in per capita cases the states the film have also takes posted place after some the of twenty the country's two year highest old the heavyweight positivity champion rates Sonny Liston for covert it's a nineteen fictional tests account of a conversation nearly twenty between two the percent boxer in who North later Dakota became Mohammed in seventeen Ali percent and Malcolm in South X. Jim Dakota Brown and Sam that's an Cooke indication who there discussed are more inequality infections look than tests at racism are catching against them the and infections how to use have been their spurred celebrity by schools is changing and universities Regina re king opening says it as also well as mass speaks gatherings to what's happening like the today Sturgis with the motorcycle police killings rally of black which drew people hundreds we of thousands have this opportunity of people from across or the country health officials in twelve states chit have to reported over use three hundred our art cases and among people in in who a attended powerful the way event the film none stars the less out the as governors hostile of as north the autumn and junior South Dakota Kingsley both Ben of Adir whom are Republican and he like all right have resisted as Cassius mask clay requirements I'm Julie Walker I'm Ben Thomas
Regina King introduces 'One Night in Miami' to Oscars race
"Actor Regina king puts on her director's hat and introduces her film one night in Miami about a young Muhammad Ali to the Oscar race it was quite the film takes place after the twenty two year old the heavyweight champion Sonny Liston it's a fictional account of a conversation between the boxer who later became Mohammed Ali and Malcolm X. Jim Brown and Sam Cooke who discussed inequality look at racism against them and how to use their celebrity is changing Regina king says it also speaks to what's happening today with the police killings of black people we have this opportunity or chit to use our art and in in a powerful way the film stars out as hostile as the autumn junior Kingsley Ben Adir and he like all right as Cassius clay I'm Julie Walker
The price of rare plants
"Right. Now it's time to talk about rare plants and when this turned into a ranch, I wanted to be a reasoned argument but I hope that this will give you pause for thought about what's happening in the house blunt world right now, I guess I got really alarmed about plant prices. When applaud the I've been lusting after suddenly went up in price. As many of you know through the podcast I've been looking for a piece of Panteli sensation, a cultivar of tons of area. Correctly Justina As been moved to the dressier genus, the snake plant, I've been looking for. Peace or a plant of this particular offer longtime. Now, for some reason, while they're common in the US, they just aren't that common here in the UK and I haven't found a shop selling them I think couple of people found a plot shop in Poland selling them, but I still do not have one of these plants. So I. Put an Ebay search save out there. So that anytime anyone put one of these plants on Ebay. I. Would know a few months ago the last cutting that I had been watching the last pup that I've been watching when I think he has for about twenty five pounds and I missed out on time because I thought that's a bit expensive. Anyway another pop came up from the same seller I think very recently about two or three weeks ago. I was Kinda getting excited because the price was still quite low are and all watching the countdown and the price was still about ten pounds and I thought. The chance here? How much did it go for? It went for it went for about eighty seven pounds. For a tiny stick of a snake blunt. Thanks to the listeners by the way who offered to send me a piece of their bench Elson session from the US very kind of you. But I don't think it's a good idea given plant health and spread of diseases to be importing individual plants from the US plus. Don't think it's worth it for the air. BYLES. Of course, there are other house plants that are going for much much more. The headline in The New York Post recently was some sucker in New Zealand just spent five thousand dollars on a house plant. There was a variegated rafic for a test drive perma with variation, the basically split relief in half between the regular caller and sort of golden yellow. and. That plot went for eight thousand, one hundred fifty New Zealand dollars on the site trade me nuts about five thousand. Dollars in other words, a lot of money and there is a track record for plants on this trade me site going for a lot. There was a Hoya I think it was a Hoya compactor with the reverse fair Gatien the way for six and a half thousand New Zealand dollars. A before POPs a couple of months before I'm, and of course, we all know about the variegated monster at unsown. With those little holy leaves marked with cream the have also gone for some really interested. High prices recently, this has been building for a while. Now, this trend towards rare or Unicorn House Plaza cost a lot of money but I think that lockdown has exacerbated this desire for plants as lots of people who want to. Live and up their Home Office of got into the House plant thing during lockdown adjust desperate for these very, very rare loans. And I think we've really got to take the long view about this in that planck. Crazies are really nothing you. My first thought is back to the fern craze in the mid eighteen hundreds I wasn't there I'm not quite that old over my children would probably beg to differ. So in the mid eighteen hundreds around the world. There was a firm fever that really took of people and lots of women in particular were going out and bought an ising and looking for funds in the wild and buying. Funds from nursery such as the famous and now defunct lodges of London with the huge glasshouses, and these were really desirable things to own back. Then the talent teradata mania was coined by Sir Charles Kingsley and he wrote your daughter's perhaps I've been seized with the prevailing Tareyton mania and are collecting bind funds with wards cases where into keep them for it's you have to pay and wrangling over unpronounceable names of species which seemed to be different in each new book that they buy till the territory mania seems to you somewhat of a ball. So that might be familiar. Scenario of of wrangling over the names and buying the special equipment, the wards cases, which is just the original server terrariums plots in. So that is an illustration of the fact, this is not a new a new thing. Plunk raises a bit around forever I mean even Coleus those cheapest chips plants that you can buy very very easily are certainly not subject to a premium. These days were at one point something, very new, exciting and expensive. If you check out Dr Catherine, Horwitz Book Potted Histories, you'll find out that a dozen new coleus hybrids sold at auction by the RHS's one, hundred, sixty, eight when for three, hundred, ninety pounds. How much three hundred ninety pounds is worth today about thirty thousand pounds so As I say it's not new and equally even further back in history chilly fever and sixteen thirties same time citrus trees also massive status symbol mainly because you needed an orangerie to keep them in. So. Wild prices for applauds are nothing new
Country Singer Kane Brown and Wife Katelyn Welcome Daughter Kingsley Rose
"You Aaron Cain brown and his wife Caitlyn welcomed their first child a daughter named Kingsley rose brown on Tuesday October twenty ninth a rep for the country star confirms to reporters brown announced the news on Instagram Wednesday sharing a photo of him and his wife with their newborn daughter writing welcome to the family kings lead roles brown Caitlyn added her own post saying obsessed with my little family Kingsley rose we are absolutely in love with
STEMinists: Hypatia of Alexandria
"Manica. Today we're travelling back over a millennium to a boom education culture and knowledge today stem was a thinker who rivaled some of the greatest philosophers offers of her era her charm wit and teaching ability threatened those in power so much. They strove to silence her now now. She's a feminist icon. Let's talk about hype E. Shah of Alexandria not much is known about high patient early life but historians believe she was born around the year three thirty five in Alexandria. The city was established by Alexander. The great it soon became a cultural hub for study religion and philosophy high patience father was theon of Alexandria a mathematician and astronomer who was known for his writings NHS and research. The women of the day were traditionally expected to stick to domestic roles theon rejected those restrictions and tutored his daughter math astronomy on and philosophy as an adult patient became a respected thinker. She was the first reported woman to make significant mathematical. Michael and philosophical advancements building on the work of other academics in geometry number theory and astronomy and her work constantly turned heads. Ed's not only was she scholar at Alexandria University high patient also took her teaching to the streets she donned the scholars robes usually reserved for men stood in the Public Square and lectured about philosophy high. Pay Show was a pagan but wasn't selective about her students. Despite burgeoning religious tensions in the city she taught many Christian students as well as fellow pagans. Even those who opposed her religious beliefs admitted her prowess as an educator thinks type patients work she also had influence over some members of the political elite including the city's governor arrestees the Christian Archbishop of Alexandria Cyril resented the connection between arrestees arrestees in high patia blaming her for keeping arrestees from accepting true faith. I pay show is such talented charismatic speaker that opponents often often blamed her for keeping people from Christianity. It didn't help that religious tensions in Alexandria worsened over time uh-huh finally the city reached a boiling point in the year four fifteen one of cereals Christian associates on a mission hoping to find the local Jewish community plotting against the Christians. He found no such thing but was caught and punished by arrestees after the punishment Cyril was furious and encouraged his followers to raid and murder the Jewish people city. Those who survived were forced to flee in its frenzy the mob wet looking for high patient. She was on her way home from delivering her daily lectures when the horde dragged her from her chariot brutally tortured and killed her high patient's death shocked shocked the empire even writers who had previously accused of witchcraft recorded her murder a tragedy transforming her into murder for philosophy and enlightenment patient murder sadly mark just the beginning of cereals attack on Alexandria intellectuals. The University of Alexandria was sacked and burned on his orders and pagan temples were torn down. Artists and philosophers fled the city and mass Hi Patience image has been used throughout history to represent different ideas in the Middle Ages. She was a symbol of Christian virtue and in the age of enlightenment she represented opposition to Catholicism in eighteen fifty three Charles Kingsley published a novel named after her High Patia that romanticized her as one of the last true modern Greeks today she's an icon for women's rights and empowerment though the vast majority of her work was lost in the destruction of Alexandria many accounts of her skill remain. High Patia of Alexandria tree out will forever be remembered as legendary innovative thinker despite those who tried to silence her ideas forever
Packers, Kingsley Kiki And Russell WTMJ discussed on Wisconsin's Weekend Morning News
"Today's the Packers draft is done and the team's new coaches likes. What light what they see? It's meant floors. I ramped isn't NFL head coach and all he saw eight players five on defense three on offense. Get the call. It was great. I think we were in line with a lot of our views even going into it. And then there couple situations where you've got two guys sitting there, and you talk through it. And you take the best one that you think can help you football team in particular leflore was excited about this new pass rushers led by first rounder. Rashawn Gerry and fifth rounder. Kingsley kiki. Doug, Russell WTMJ's. Four at the end of the coming week all the Packers. First year players will report to Green Bay for rookie
Susan Choi on her new novel, Trust Exercise
"Choi her first novels. I read were American woman about a fictionalized Patty Hearst in person of interest about a campus bombing both of which were part of my reading prep for writing my own novel about late sixties radicals her new novel just out is trust exercise about teenagers, and trust and betrayal and Laurie lines between fiction in real life. I was eager to meet Susan Shaw and talk with her about the new book. And when she got studio three sixty more delighted than dismayed to learn that we'd already met on the phone twenty years ago when I was a New Yorker writer, and she was a New Yorker fact checker and to learn that we'd lived a couple blocks of part in Brooklyn for a decade. So the conversation started right off with a pretty neighbor Levi. So Susan the main characters in this novel are students at performing our school in the south in the nineteen eighty s why you attended the high school for the performing arts and visual arts in Houston in the nineteen eighties. So I'm assuming like these kids you two were in the theater department. I was and that the department this feels like a real Gotcha moment. Yes, I did attend at the at arts program when I was in high school and was your experience being this theater student at this performing arts high school. What was your feeling about it? I love going to a theater arts high school, I begged my parents to let me go to this school. They wanted me to go to a traditional academic school where I could have taken all of the AP's, and the foreign languages and actually prepared for college, which I didn't really do. Instead, I went to this theater arts school where I had really a wonderful time for the most part. So in that sense. It's very different from the characters. I'm writing about. So adolescence is intense under any construction, but coming of age being an end lesson going through birdie and being in a feeder program like perhaps your answer like your characters are in so the hormones, plus the voter. Ability, and the ego deconstruction I'd never thought of it as potentially dangerous, but it sounds potentially dangerous. Yeah. It does sound dangerous seems like it should be a legal. I think it's really worth noting that like it's such an intense time of life, which you don't obviously like none of us realize when we're going through that time of life. How intense it is. Right. You don't have the perspective. I it seems like one of the morals of this story is that we don't ever recover from being fifteen years old. I think no matter what sort of a fifteen you had you probably I don't I don't know if I'd say, you never recover. But I think that moment of life is a really really intense and powerful in defining one. I was done with the book by the time, the cavenaugh hearings riveted all of us last fall. But. I was really out of my head. Did you? Well, yeah. It was the sort of moment at which is a nation. We all work back there when back there and thought like, yeah. Wow. I was fifteen months do and it was a really important moment highly relevant now that you mentioned it to how fifty act it reminds you that you were such a different person at that moment if your life, but also that moment of life is so profound and affecting. So you read something. Yeah. So the first excerpt that I'll read is from early in the book, and it's early in the school year for two students at this school, Sarah and David they're both theater students who have been doing all sorts of different things, including trust exercises with their teacher, Mr. Kingsley, and they had a thing franchiser. And that thing hasn't been acknowledged yet. It hasn't been admitted, but it's going to be soon. Entrust exercises one day perhaps late in the fall. David and Sarah were never quite sure they would not speak of it. Until summer. Mr. Kingsley turned off all the lights in the windowless rehearsal room plunged them into a locked lightness vault at one end of the rectangular room was a raised platform stage thirty inches or so off the floor. Once the lights were turned off in the absolute silence. They heard Mr. Kingsley skimmed the length of the opposite wall and step onto the stage. The edge of which they faintly discerned from bits of luminescent tape that hovered in a broken line like a thin constellation. Long after there is adjusted they saw nothing, but this a darkness like that of the womb or the grave from the stage came his stern, quiet voice. Voiding them of all previous time, stripping them of all knowledge. They were blind. Newborn babes and must venture themselves through the darkness and see what they found immediately bodies encountered each other and startled away. He heard this
Nielsen: 19% of all US adults listen to podcasts every week
"The latest from pod news dot net. Nielsen US research company have released their new total audience report that says that nineteen percent of US adults. Listen to podcasts each week and forty five percent of smart speaker owners claim to listen to podcasts and audiobooks on them. You'll find a full linked to download that in our newsletter. Today. Here's an exclusive for you NPR's rat analytic standard, which we reported on yesterday will be supported by Hindenburg. The audio editor built for audio journalists. Chris Mottes their CEO tells pod news that both Hindenburg journalists pro and hinder bug broadcaster willing clued a feature to add rats tags and the related meta data and that the release will be made this Friday afternoon. Meanwhile, Marco Armand, the creator of overcast has confirmed in a series of tweets that he won't be supporting the rat analytic standard. I won't be supporting any listener behavior. Tracking specs in overcast. He says PA. Pastors get enough data from your IP address when you download episodes. Now, what NPR show is about to make it on TV. Probably the are WBZ Chicago. This is wait wait don't tell the the NPR news quiz. The broadcaster is working with Wilshire studios apart of NBC universal. It's the second time at TV version of the show has been attempted in the UK BBC radio four's. The news quiz was made as a successful TV show in nine hundred ninety. It's called have. I got news for you. And it still as today radio days Europe conference in Switzerland. In late March has just announced many more speakers, including our editor, James Crittenden. That's me, Tom Webster from Edison research, and ideas, grew Wade Kingsley who tells us at brainstorming his nonsense or words to that effect. And this man has the power to launch a number of podcasts with Stitcher in the new year you power to choose. What you want? The power shoes your personal. Here's a course. Dr Phil fill in the blanks launches on the eighth of January and earlier this year. Dr Phil McGraw achieved one hundred weeks as the US is most watched talk show,
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"Y you know and i are you going to have your on tv show i'm going to be rich no not anymore still have to go out you ask me in minneapolis and do a weekend uh but on that but i am on executives over tv show yeah i know is no actually no but you should plug your the mc's comedy special goes he didn't get one earlier all you'll have a commie i have many of them you of another what what i found what must have you feel about this moment where like i did the comedy stars would netflixing was good i was glad that i got the opportunity sure yeah but then you hear about like you know sign fokker's rock and louis this is like the ah they just gave jerry seinfeld half a billion dollars thank god because we need who was learning it's not i'm not even jealous but it's sort of like give me like a maybe maybe like five percent yeah yeah i'm not complaining but if you're throwing money away yeah exactly i'll take a little no i was a you know i they were it was one of those things where i was going to tapered and then i was gonna do it with the company that i did my last russia with and then there were the dates were confused and then there were like well we can only do it on this date and i was getting ready to go into production on season two of the show and i you know you can feel the material right inning and reaching pugh tressens sure and you feel like dying yeah exactly and i was i was looking at some nick i was looking at a new products that list as they go i really wanted to get it down ago and i have a really great agent at william morris them silvio lund who's really a terrific guy and he goes let's just do novel and he called up this record company in damn nailed it and and get it in and i do find the audio lives longer than the video so people listened comedy on the radio they listen to comedy on their phone i it's rare that they will sit down and watch a special again that's true that's true i l walsh asif yeah yeah exactly but all listen to especially again all this shit you always in the comedy records i've heard before i listen to because because now uh you know you have that done than you're getting ready to go back on the road and yet you've got to frantically get new shit guinness shit yeah i mean i i'm not i don't believe it has to be one hundred percent new but it should be you really not believe that or you just tell you i really i know i really do but uh i'm i'm much lower than the percentage that it should be i think people want to hear one or two hundred families that you know like i i dunno i got the idaho 'cause i think you and are similar in that in that whoever's judging that whoever saying i this year from the record whoever saying that usually we make them up and you out now there are no there are a couple of those is ideal hit that twenty percent of the suv his new wave that why do we listen to that guy because he's the guy that hates us as much as we do he sees this is already just the way we are with a little disappointed with this was never the almost you'll has got it but not quite right but i i you know i probably saw george karlin i don't know a dozen times my life and i would always love it when there was a oh well he's going to do baseball and football great disease and you go this is great listen to this i sure i i listen i like hearing beats like he because this museum it is a form of music digitally form of music when you know like i hear who i can was due over and over again if it comes up in 'cause i got the shuffle gone on ma if schimmel comes up and mike because like the ear was such a master of this very specific type of timing kind of like morose jewish he you know who it's it's the disease descended joan roma jackie veronica yep that good good poll well he told me although yeah and you know who else was heavily influenced by jackie vernon let me guess who stephen wright sure that makes a lot of ads yeah i love jackie vern yeah jackie o'brien was amazing scr i saw he was the guy i saw my parents took museum when i was like eleven oh my god where that's what change to me because i saw him on tv do the slide show and then he came to albuquerque and i saw it in the paper at out in albuquerque was a lounge in the hilton hotel phantom my parents took me that's fist of it and that was what i was like that's when i knew it whenever you but what if he opened bush and soon turkomans should they would have been fine but what we were close enough just to see like you know he's a hold and he's like you saw all of it is in this and that it was not afraid i was like this is still good i have this conversation with somebody is really really interesting is talking about how much i love rickles yeah and i was talking to a a younger com we'll they're all younger and owes quoting some rousseau stuff and this goes help us us laura his own because he so unworkable because it has nothing to do with that yes all music i love the ud in the rhythm of the music and i remember seeing him sometimes he said things that didn't even make sense but because no i will give you a beautiful example i was with your friend and mine rob cohen at the desert in and they had just had a giant renovation of the desert in and it was sweltering in the show room when he goes out a forty milliondollar renovation they get a great airconditioning system two facts on the roof of the peace looseleaf paper glenn doesn't mean a gut dim thing he could have said tortoises zeroed onesyllable i tell you and could as a bear as you know i'm not laughing because i am straight and therefore i'm exerting my heterosexual privilege via in a derogatory way no eases thought of that of that part of that of that and that's what i have yet but the weird thing is we give you isn't something like schimmel who is usually the victim of his own joke yes in his life had the life of fucking job yeah and then the political whatever's politically incorrect about it itself offering a software threat and then i don't like he is the victim of every jew every joke has a victim and symbols act it was him yet in something somehow that can elevate ivan i agree i agree yeah i don't know if i have these discussions but like i for some reason i'm just able the separate i i don't know that you know revisionism is necessary just because times change in terms of what you you you feel personally attached to her what you like i don't i don't odds visa will difficult but but i can says it already owned for me i can still you know i don't do we delete all that stuff do we delete are emotional connection to right i i don't see how that's possible tackle and it's like when we damn my have hitler's paintings i have to separate you have that book on i have the coffee table excuse called raspberry lauda angles lot of hard angles not a lot of people but a lot of beautiful buildings oh i used to joke about that it's like well you know hitler was vegetarian but but yeah there's an i think i also in a lot of it is just being the soldier nostalgia for being too beating a kid a like watching rickles on the dean martin roast and every but it's a totally different school of show business than new and i grew up with golfway told me the story that when he worked with reckles rickles would would just roast him all day uh and then afterwards a poolside now you set a small lead money the eu is a very carrying well that lowvolume that's where my grandmother said she go see him in vegas and he has yet on everybody but he too she's she put it like this he apologizes very nicely renault but the only thing with bob did he couldn't understand is that that he wore jeans onstage right easily bob you can't you have to get the dress nice addressed and that's the general that's the thing that broke for that generation like these kids they they would do about those things that was karlin the kid he's talking gripe but what i'm saying is in that era in for us it's i think it's like we understand that he's seeking safe haggar he gets it whatever and it doesn't have any leasehold me we gotta shoulder that and if it's like a you can attack me for y'all still respecting somebody who is not of david his original like and that's in and that's and that's a that's a valid point that you do have to update in and he didn't he didn't need he i was watching him i went down it was yuri lewis rabbit telling when he died oh yeah and i was watching the jerry lewis rose from 1968 rickles was on it with the two things that but that it will rise rose that's not even the right the idea the one the first who the killer who's just like jerry i say this from the bottom of my heart jerry you're a jew his justly all right yeah but the other almost didn't he goes you know jerry's a clown and there are a lot of grey clowns emmett kelly that's about i will not give up the other baru hui was rose the is when the martin ones and j jim stewart was on the day is and he goes a jimmy i spoke to the family you're doing fine hosts one there was one where he was on it was his last appearance he was his last carson appearance because johnny was retiring on and then he may johnny lab zohar johnny got into a coughing fit careful john every time you cough lentils at home highfiving the life little good will and i love one and it's a real shit have you seen that one where they built him a club filled with just celebrities the martin there's a dean martin rose who was might have been the d martin show where they wanted to recreate alive rickles show i have that 'cause i signed up for the guide them the other demar the i never saw coming i had no idea there were so many but there was one that came it might have been the d martin show but they set up a club they mean on a sound stage and had people like pat boone in the audience all the celebrities kartal malta bar like he was probably nineteen seventy the early 70s mid70s yeah and and rickles just went up and did his club in insulted ever yeah it was great and as you sweating mid70s when the american flag had wide lapels warren ugly i go it's an interesting question though about because i had this moment where you know being a comic as long as we have you know you and i are old guys already yeah and and by the way just two i am fully aware before anybody jumps down my throat about don rickles and whatever i know i'm i'm i'm done i'm in i'm with this is not what is contemporary this is my view of it pete townsend was talking about the john entwistle used a bitch about wrap that he didn't get it yeah and he said it's not our job to get it it's our job to get out of the way and and i am aware of that yeah i get it i get it yeah well no i mean i you know i can it's becomes difficult with depending on what the transgression is here to stay supportive you'll have to be supporters somebody you can condemn somebody and you can you think somebody's awful but still say that second record though that sure you know and then you somebody said a really smart the genome our solar arguello should young new comic really really funny really funny and really martin somebody was bashing some on woke person new than apologize for it and she said you know you have to let people make their mistakes and grow in public he kinda led have to you have to let people grow catches white dot terrorise them into some sort of cultural siberia yeah the you know the my last special the one before this one um i had the whole thing at the end of boat the our word uh and how it's now relegated wizards see word and i tried to do on those bits ya ya and i wouldn't in i did i mean the bit was a boat the strictly the nomenclature of equating that word with the n word in this year oh it was actually addressing the that that whole thing it wasn't about like i don't use it that way no because then i did use it uh you know i know is that i would never do this and then i did i cheated all over the place and i you know i i said it and i said the n word in the sewer day and i say them now relish at home time mutter myself but whatever i would i would nothing happened but i wouldn't have done i wouldn't do it today i got i did a bit about it about defending you know the use of it in you know in a sense of like in a ended this style gic way um y yo how you know what i mean i grew up with that yeah right but then i guy the guy that igf someone i think it was an email the just said we you know i'm the parent and in and that was a you know i like i had a couple of swipes but in eventually i got a handle on it i i did it and then i met john mcginley lose of very on the forefront of of of all those issues and it becomes real via an and it's not about first amendment that's about though these people have feelings and their young their lives and you're okay i guess that's the thing hey how attached are you two that really need it have you read them of using that word it's not he's no one's censoring anybody yeah it's like you're hurting people's feelings and it's already hard for them yeah exactly brilliant yes i guess they have a rough enough time any and you can and that is truly you can say that will riggles talking about fragile new have enough to have enough they have enough trouble i my my feelings about that are like you say whatever you want the shoulder the uganda water take the take the burn yeah tell uber then handle it what the what's this new were the new season standard against evil what's it did you finish it's all done joey finished it premiers november first on ifc house a different uh it takes the story it takes us roy for the premise of the story is the whole idea of the shows was quite simple i love horror movies are my football so i just thought what if i did a horror movie but put a character in the middle of it that didn't belong here and it was basically what if my dad was an harm of has he wouldn't give it doesn't know just know does he does no he doesn't give fuck right and and we used to make that joke if you remember the indicating kong he's on the building in the planes are flying area my brothers and i used to joke did of our dad was in one of those planes that he would fly out of formation check the scoring the baseball game comeback shoot a little bit more go back and i just thought it would be interesting if like what if instead of buffy the vampire slayer it was just an old irish guy that didn't give a shit and and that was the the premise and i didn't i my mother is still alive but his wife who would have been my mother dies before the show starts and because i needed them to have a giant vulnerability or is just hassle oca them what john mcginley did with that was created this amazingly nuanced character is a good actor huh israel has been around for a long time ago he's not fuck in a row it doesn't seem age much either doesn't know he's he's good lives at the gym i mean is this arms are and i say this knowing he's listening to it his arms are terrifying um uh no easing these in crazy like an old irish boxer from like a poster for the he's like hundreds who was in the issue williams was like five over visas and wall street is a platoon he was in any given sunday but he's built like an old irish bar and how he's all upper body and but he created the he gave this character so much more than than i had give it it on the page and and i have to also give jet at foreign ego amazing kudos for the way she balances him the ballast that she and as such a strong actress the because john is done so much of this work that for the second season i had to right up to him so i developed a whole arc of a story line where there is a time travel element where he's going to try to go back and save his wife's life oh wow and as as always happens makes things much worse oh good and that's the arc this as the art the season and what's the name of the record that see the digital this is what did them i call it a record 'cause i don't know what else to call it how it looks it in a my doubt because my downloads sounds vaguely filthy ah mister funny men and this is what the kids on her the account how many you've done how many record seventy special uh i have the worst i proudly have the worst album titles fun houses fine yeah but it's an they keep up album and his version is albums much better uh let me put my thoughts in you i know what's wrong which was okay this is mr funding in screwed what i mean the bigger problem is really the art work generally yes like looking at what you can almost any comedy record in you know somebody who's like move was i think and yeah homeless every comedy record bullets every comedian gets to be a rockstar for that that one day we you get to look figure your album cover via i did all right like you know in retrospect i don't have any stupid once i ask you know the last don't try to be funny on your color exactly don't try to be funny on your cover that's it that's it iin the war here quad split headshot via the worst people from boston we both novaya the what were their different panels viking different hats and i can't say it on the air but i'll tell you what were probably sure have on those i remember seeing it becomes clear i like how there were different has i know they can play different jobs it would be a fireman and a chef who was a doubt i will good well it's good talk in the arabian sea all dana cooled the great dana gould so lizzy goodman who i'm going to be talking to next in just a second um she was very good friends remarks pits the lay mark spitz they david years ago and mark spitz was a a great writer in his own right of music writer and wrote a greg memoir and he was on the show and because he passed not too long ago that you can still listen to episode in the in the free feed if you'd like it was a great episode very personal very engaged and we missile marqui we miss him you know i think i'm a good cook when i make food at home but there's nothing worse than not having the right amount of an ingredient or 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brainer for thirty bucks off your first week of hellofresh visit hellofresh dot com and enter the promo code wtf that's how of fresh dot com promo code wtf so lizzy goodman the writer is my guest and i met her when i met her with mark once but she put me in her book can we talked about it when she was writing then she sent me the galley and i didn't quite get to it then she sent me the real book and honestly i just skimmed it looked at my part but i have very little recollection i talk to her about this but whatever was happening in rock and roll from two thousand one to two thousand eleven i gotta tell you i think i miss most of it i don't know what i was doing i don't know where i was i mean the last time i knew i was really blocked in to root to rock and roll happening in real time was probably in the late eighties and then side some i just some i went away i don't know where i went but i wasn't i wasn't locked in i'll mocked back in but this the two thousand one to two thousand eleven i was just a struggling comic trying to figure it out i do i get sober like i guess was right after i got silver that might add something to do with it but i just wasn't keyed in to the new york music scene i was just keyed into the comedy scene there was some crossover we we hammered out lizzy and i hammered out and i talk a newer the book is called meet me in the bathroom rebirth rock and roll in new york city 2000 a one to two thousand eleven which apparently are my lost years but that's not true i did i did radio did air america away way i got divorced a guy they'll get married got married and divorced in those years that would have something to do with it so i was listening to music but it was like twelve to fifteen songs that i put on a fucking mix after my wife left me that letter of that a lot of those twelve to fifteen sok unita heartbreak mix i got one how how long you've in la i have a real problem here really i just i've been here for three days where he frazzled you not a dry did you drive i know you drive here i'm from new mexico i know how to write weaker of your friends with i keep i always forget that i wanted to go i'm going you i i think that's a great idea it's great there had to how long did you stay in new mexico till like 14 seconds after i graduated from high school which highschool albuquerque academy i don't i didn't tell me all this now probably not i don't know you went to the academy here how do you i'm two thirty seven twenty five i don't know i just had a birthday and i have been i realize that i've been telling people my old age for at least the last couple of weeks because i forgot the elderly seven i was born in 1980 what was your old age thirty six turns out are you've and you have a goto no no no i just i have this joke with my friend rob sheffield that might ages is 26 forever i have not really evolved pass that i may i'm moving i think i might move i have to me become hear a lot more now what's happened and so i'm thinking don't use drop that i will vote will that but at one of my biggest or i've been thinking about where i to live show alana's neon it seems to be happening fedronic yeah in what way but i will tell you but just my biggest concern is that i'm gonna miss winter and one of my friends his out mean half my friends that i hear one of my friends his lobbying been lobbying me for an ally move for a long time was just suggested to me recently and i never thought of this like you go to new mexico for winter go have winter new mexico's eventually just go have a mild winter well i mean it's cold it's not new york coal i live in upstate new yorkright now oh my god where high falls new york it's what are you doing up there i was finishing a book this book yeah that embassies different one who one of the one of avoiding talking about on your wedding efficient probably hate it which is fine this not hate is not the word disagree with no italian a disagreement thing i missed it of course i miss this if the it's called earth and rock and roll in new york city two thousand one or two thousand eleven i know none of the bans in the really would you like some help well that's why we're going to do but not down yeah yeah so yeah i like the idea spending the casual winter's in new mexico where he here in the higher or some parka whitesnow nodded loom area the luminary of i've in kerala's is awesome when you get your health through in the lights now no known does the candles anymore you can't go said i know they are good they one hundred percent you it's the real thing all right some people still do the rules of very traditional place kerala's new mexico we what we think about living here i'm not admitting that i'm thinking about overweight now i don't lie echo part will people i i don't like them i don't wanna be near them like i don't wherever the williamsburg of la is i don't want any williamsburg valet thank god is not because here it's like bloctobloc you know williamsburg maybe i don't know it's different i mean i want to live by the beach but every night if that he can't live vitamese because yield you know fall off well why show business quarter year because of the book a real yeah marks like oh that didn't even occur to me what an awful idea i have i have to tell you were important which can into serbia but do you know some people like it so is known and i i know it's people love it and i understand that not being yeah i'm very sure there's no i know you and i'm totally teasing you i this book is about a period where you could actually get most of the people to play themselves as their younger selves and it'd be pretty quiet pretty close he added in various no it's going to be there like documentary and and narrative at like fictional adaptation series ideas around that's great i'm excited about it i mean i want to do more of that stuff anyway and always have or have in the last few years and so it's like fund to think about how to make the i mean people i've just felt really gratified by the kinds of ideas that have been a you know because as skeptical that the whole hollywood here at it so far than the people that i think we're going to be working with are awesome well we're did you how'd you start out where'd you end up you went to the academy graduate you got brothers and sisters yeah i gotta younger brother take that's a good name yeah he's get he lives in nigeria really he's a foreign service officer he's a diplomat o good for him the state department and cut them loose yes no um now not yet that's good maybe maybe nigeria this sort of like what i stand ninety he got there he just got there and it's funny we're talking about luminaries he's going to have lumina or something he's having he's getting married in december in england here on dan and he's going to have all this new mexican stuff we've been talking a lot about the new bringing the new mexico to the new mexico christmas vibe to london thoughts nice yeah so what would you go to college after you can ran away to fill it i mean i wanted to be on the rules like right away it was all about new york as obsessed with new york and with the idea of lake eastern urban magic get the eu's when he grow up in a smart household in new mexico you i i want to go to where really happens i like all this cowboy cowboy intellectual shit i that's exactly how i felt i mean it is disturbing to be talking to you about this there there's basically no one who gets out of new mexico so those of us who do all have the same kind of like course spirit about that if you go back they go back oh hi tonnes tons yeah i mean you're going back now i've been thinking about it yeah it's drawing i think about it to the way on wife yeah my heejoo like i don't i like i i don't i'm done with new york i'm almost down with la whereas from argun go this is how i feel you say i'm too young to feel it this is literally the conversation i've been having while i'm here i'm like i will always feel like i live in new york that i don't need to live there anymore and so therefore where do i feel good well that's only corral us exact cheese like me literally only corral starting to feel that it's the only play me for me is not quite corral but i always romanticise prowess but i'm a couple of miles away how you i think would i very close to corral but a all right so dan study what english and classics and your girl at the plan was only good was to be a writer now what a crazy idea what idiot would do that you can't be a writer what was the point of in new york and what just like hang out no the plan was to idea you know i was eighteen i didn't have i had a i had a homing instinct not a plan like i'm gonna come to college because you have to go to college like i'll go as close to new york as they can go and i was really good student and i cared about being gets you now i love school and great china japan but no the plan what it what happened was and this is the right call like i now understand this in a way that i can articulate and didn't at the time that i advocate for it it's like i had to put myself near stuff that would so i could be in a position to have what should happen next revealed to me brian what i mean later that's what new york is yet it's a no to be you know for me and and for others that that's kind of what the books it out here at sense of i don't know why i'm going here i'm just going here because it seems something's telling me to do that and i can't tell you why and i may not even know right away or for years but it's where my next myself is going to emerge on the oddly e know it's because the place it new york holds in the cultural unconscious yes for years since the 70s yeah specially if you're groovy artistic you know literary it it's like it it's grooms large yeah it means something to mean something it's an idea and hand but there but still to this day there's nothing like it i mean you you know you can i can't live anywhere unlike well but do you did you find always at like i was just in new york and for the first time in my life i went over to jazz at lincoln center as fiftythreeyearold and it's have always been there and i was there for for fifteen years on and off and i did nothing like oh yeah hey like all this stuff veiled me like people you go the museum of modern art i did once twice here but i am now like i feel like i'm ready to do that stuff in its fortunate because now i understand new york pretty fucking while i can get around and ought to do what other so if i go in for three days on my show again see let's do it but that's okay that is exactly why my i feel like my current relationship with new york is among the best that i've had which is like when you leave you are able to to be a kind of the it's almost like the first fifteen years are investing in understanding the place enough that you can become a named formed tourist when you go there so now i do that too like i go in from upstate you know every week or so every ten days and i do three days of city staff all my friends i gutted restaurants i do all these things that i had no energy to do because those so relentlessly overstimulated by the time i laughed at that i was like i can't even like i just want to hide and so now there's this the slate has been cleared and it's like new york it's fun again but that i don't ever feel when i was nineteen and started coming to the city from philly all the time i felt like mm i needed it too like kind of worked on me in order to help me figure out how to become myself and now i know how to be myself how did you go there were year ranked ninety eight i moved to philadelphia and i was in school my dad is a new yorker semi dagger opens in status in town via and my grandparents unawares there for a while a who's going to get that apartment come on you tell me about the survivors adel got your grandparents of art okay it's on has pink walls the who is getting that next ruth good men lives there she she's you know she's she's it's her place man here i mean no one's it's a rental it still like i know rentcontrolled renzo deeply rent controlled rental yeah your eyes are like glinting the cia is the new yorker area edge rooms juve everyday that have what's the kitchen like hallander yeah it's the last of the rent control listen everything you're thinking is true it's your fantasy come true it's like the per it's an it's walker they've this would be good always is when you've when i was there you like the idea of control was i i'd rent stabilize but that doesn't mean something i and stabilise to that that's like they're like it's not as brutal so really when you move to new york in earnest this is when this book starts yeah i mean i started coming to the exactly like i started coming to the city from philly to see show i love the story is it's in the introduction to the book it's basically like i i moved to new york the first summer that idea college says after freshman year i i moved to the city i lived in my grandparents apartment i worked at murray yeah and i got a job in a restaurant you worked at sesame street i had an internship at sesame productions or whatever that it was the production company that pretty sesame street that will you write in turn shed you're gone for showbusiness i was not go i was like this is the justification for me being here that's the one the ethics as all i i didn't pick it it was like available and we really i was like i need to go hang out in new york city trash camera oscar with no no they never let me near it wasn't a coup it was like i don't even remember what i did i wasn't near actual sesame street it was the production cut it was it you know is a midtown office building that was set not no would you how could you work for sesame street nakos he were seriously streets production company produces a lot of shows sesame street the crown jewel i was a lowly turn we love the you're acting like this is my choice yet one day they rolled in and they were like do you want to go to the sesame street sat and i was like nath no that's not out having no anxieties me i was i was i you didn't meet ernie organiser continued i wanted to meet rock voice mark i tend not grow her no grown all right grover and the guy with nights in serious who you're like all right yeah he taught me how to ride the subway right are you there you're working says mystery not going to not doing all of the things that i know i've disappointed you deeply and just i got a job in a restaurant 'cause i needed to make money because i wasn't in school and i had to lake support you know i had free rant that i had to lake right pete or whatever you run by close i guess whatever i cared about at that time records and so i got this job at this i got this job training to work at this restaurant crossstrait from grand central station said they were opening any day now and they are hiring up staff i got this job and we end of course it took much longer for them to open and they had anticipated citybased they had hired this staff of kids board hot city kids who went there every day for like four hours and got paid this lowly amount of money and did things like practiced waiting tables and learned the wine list and stuff like that and my coworker was nickel anc who was the guitar since strokes and he was in this band like hit with his friends called the strokes of now the portal opened and you're well no i mean no it was years that was nineteen that was the summer of ninety nine and it was i mean it was a couple of years before like albert the other guitarist had not joined the band yet they weren't they it was my friend nix like ban nick i was nick was like halfheartedly in college and they were just city kids and i was i mean the portal that opened that summer was not rock and roll it was new york like oh nicholas cool in in that he grew up in the city and understood how to sort of like wander wale and how to get into bars and how did you set just it was sort is it was what like i had been learning i it with training wheels in philadelphia that as a new mexico kid like how do you how do you orient yourself in urban life and let these places kind of lake you know wash over you and expose you two things you're supposed to be exposed to how to get the rhythm down and that like nick and i would just hang out after after pretending to wait tables and you know lake wander round office parks and smoke weed in office park teller fina behind off sparked pillars and sort of like just wander around midtown it wasn't and then sometimes i would go downtown to lake st mark's and sneak into bars and do stuff like that beazley it was like that was what was pal 99 summer here that must that summer was those were my marriage was falling apart that was the other big thing that is happening for every avatars you knew marc maertens mary and who's out more a yeah and then he got thrown out of that house in the other find to subway weighed down us instead it was way chiller than what you are dealing with try and dukan redo one man shows that was that are that is i was the best theater oh my god the west bath yeah that became significant for me later really yeah because all the artists where had their studios in there and still do it's still let me extra to yes rate on the west that the west village became later after i finally moved to the city in two thousand two became like my spot because i don't like coolness like i don't like i didn't like i do not want to be on the larry cider off that city will whites places for me when i when i moved there i guess was eighty nine the first time and then i went back in nine the four remember you saying that yeah but but you know and i talk a little bit in the book about the you know what happened then but it really wasn't the only put i was just a little weird historical artifact you put that this from the guys from the generation before radio exxon giuliani for two minutes well i needed that i've might do i thought i was well represented good you were i agree um so this is all just before nine eleven yeah and the you've you found your place on the west side where it's not hip with artists that are well no i mean i went back to philly for like that so what i'm saying is that the that's why it's this is an important about the book the s not bands like i wanted to be a lawyer or something i thought it was gonna be a lawyer i was a school kid but i was pulled towards this sense of magic and misery about new york city that is the idea that we are already just talking about and he hadn't yeah i loved writing but i didn't work from my school newspaper i didn't it wasn't like what what it was was it was like i'm i i i was being drawn to some expression of culture that was related to my generation that i that had not happened yet and i did not know that that's what i was being drawn to you that i during the next few years in the part the four nine eleven were all these bans interpol yesterday as strokes and in you know white stripes and other place like around the world there all the stories that converged in the book all of those people were feeling similar things like assent this basically the same age as i was and feeling a kind of like i wanna make something that i don't entirely know what it is and like the world is not really receptive for this kind of this kind of vibe it's not supposed to be about urban call right now it's not supposed to be about notions of near and what was it supposed to be about in a music industry is supposed to be about dance music erica in you know i i mean in england it definitely was about dance music or was about like postscript popstar th i mean and in my business it was like i mean in the writing what became my business it was like it wasn't that exciting to imagine yourself as a rock journalists because there wasn't a lot of cool rocked the end so that's right it was sort of submerged in jam jammed asked you for a little while they're right i didn't think oh i'm going to be a music journalists i thought there's something about the way it feels to wander around manhattan at four p m on a really hot day in the summer where everyone rich has left the at they're making me feel like i'm getting somewhere and i can't really tell you why and so i went back to college and i studied and an ice kept in touch with neck and a couple of other people that i owe you and he would come and play shows and then i would see in philly and i will go see him and i had friends in philadelphia who are starting to lake want to go to shows so it was like it was a thing to do that had enough in it for years it was a thing to do that had nothing to do with aspiration of any kind and that was really important and it was also like it was like traditional rocking aware coming back it was not necessarily art rock punk rock was sort of finished in a way and and i guess wakeham sort of 'cause like some of the bands in the book i was given like for some reason at that time when i was there in late 90s in then like i left by two thousand two yeah but i was given cds and stuff for iced up for some reason i have the jonathan fireeaters he shot up i do that's awesome yeah they were so amazing i listen to it and i was into it but like what you're with that have been have 90s yes okay so okay so that was that times out yeah yeah they were the yeah they were round is great ho right i have my buddy john daniel was involved with music so i was sort of up to speed on something yeah okay will and 90s wealth that's all right i mean but like like jazz it only o good if you were there i mean that theoretically lay the thing about looking at the book and reading through some of it is that like when i read please kill me that was the those were before me and i was when that was what everybody was going to new york to find was that that's what this is about no i get that with moscow eyes were going to find that for sure and you kind of right about that yes like that's we're all looking for that thing that was like just it was just the the remnants of it and the and the people that were involved with that you'll first wave of whatever made new york cool were just kinda droopy greyhaired dudes walk around in their weather payments that don't fit any more with somebody going like that guy used to be something yeah if that if they are even living there anymore but i i guess i just think that that's the continuum i mean it's not like every winning please kelme weren't weren't polling on i see the continuum of that notion of new york identity as much much 70s as going ponca much further i mean i think much scher further back that than just whole idea it's it's it's i mean this is later but it's fifty yeah and it's jazz it's it's fucking ellis island man it's like come to it's it's in the american identity of new york gonna come here and you're going to reinvent yourself and the culture all potency of that has is almost as old as you know as the city in some way and so but specifically in the world of the arts yes you know what what you know what came out of new york and and what sort of defined it is you had a wealthy people who were willing to kick in to make she had happened yes right yeah and a lot away sure to reject the of a lot of the factors but then i mean you know that for us because this is my taste in i i i think yours too like the punk the 70s punt seen in cb jesus just like i meaning please county was my total bible i'm obsessed with everybody and napa i love that music that's my stuff i came to that late you're now the earth your specialty is more material for the business card wait to the partly to the party on air safety and wrong kinda leadership skills doesn't look good for any of us march mirror merit love martin on but you know i mean obviously there's also the whole greenwich village like i mean dylan for most people dillon is the touchstone for this and it's so the idea that new york is this place that's constantly polling on a previous constantly kind of coopting and borrowing its own past self via to reinvent for a new group of young people essentially the a new for them version of the same thing how are they related to turn all right they can still find the space there if they can still kinda save their which is the question now but like for my for this book for young in the bathroom like i don't see it as a see it as just this sort of the the the chapter in the cannon at that new york cultural story it's just rose right into the bookshelf right there you know after police kelme and after madonna and light up before whatever comes next but it's just it's a stop it's a stop on the larger train i think that and what comes next is going to be a a prominent either chinese or russian trend do you have that i'm good authority seems like it that's the vets me speculating that summer noncash catastrophic start i have is not catastrophic at all as i say that so so when now way what starts to drive when did you meet the the the way great mark spitz i met the late great mark spitz pretty early i i assume he he served as some sort of guide to whatever the fuck happened to you while yeah i think he'd really like you putting it that way well what mark would say is that i thought he tommy everything i know of on so he would want me to say it that way i tell you this bright i've kid from new mexico through philly who's looking for a rock fantasy and that dini and blames outta some yes he's like i can help you out seles ruin your life and i was like great and say it's the glare sorry yeah he talks in his memoir about how i was wearing flipflops for spammy and he's like they're not shoes zia like he was very my new mexico vibe was pretty united wearing makeup i didn't like i was still kind of like fresh scrubbed girl that point and i think mark with space mark dea like you know bad bad asrat girls with lake peroxide blond hair and he was sort of like you are entirely to clean for me basically and i was like okay but you like me no no as a recipe for disaster who's gonna win well that's where it's later and he would say things to me like yes chased me you know and i was like hot can you do the thing amassing unity or what he writing for spin when you met him yes so the way i'm marklevinshow sara louissant who is also a great character in the book and one of my best friends was my roommate in new york when i first moved there so i graduated from college and by that time it was clear that like the city's music scene was happening and i felt i was like dare to it i was inspired by all of i was inspired i was inspired by and have sudden a there was something to write about nato i then was like i wanna be a writer who writes about this but i i taught secondgrade frontiers first 'cause like i can't be a writer thought that's nice i taught at an allboys private school on the upper east side uh glazer's no really has a double life for awhile we were real like fullon teacher major oh yeah misguided men secondgrade whether in how what how did that and why did that and it a two year and it's like your estate teacher and then you either maybe you kind of the carrying on of that would have been to go get a degree in education and like stay in school and would stop you from doing that oh you know i'm are on that cya now now he loved at he he would talk about how wake up in the middle of the night and i would go 'cause i had i talked to my sleep and here go boys get in line and you'd be like jesus who is this girl and is scary she's like yeah so now okay so now you're you're getting you're you're getting involved with the rock senior roommate is what is she says sarah was marks like little protege at spin so i met mark before i graduated from college actually at coachella the one of the first coach as i went out with sarah to see if we could live together we went to this rocked festival together to lake try it on here and on she introduced me to mark who is i mean it's it's in the book their their meeting is pretty awesome like he was he didn't understand instant messenger and because and he's mark air sarah i was like this sort of protec savvy little jewish girl in new jersey who is who liked his writing it's like high and i'm also girl he had like why is this window coming up and they can eventually she wore him down in the house and so she introduced me to him and we had you know a serious series of battles for about a year and a half that then got together and yeah i mean mark was my tour guide through he was writing for span he was a hot shit writer writing cover stories about all these bans and how'd you manage not to get all fucked up i don't know my i honestly i i think it's genetic i i really do i just i don't know may just have the thing i'd die went out and drank every night like everybody else and reich you know there is all kinds of drugs around in yet but i just didn't care that much about it for you but it's not good for me that makes it sound like something i get credit for and it's not like i get credit every not be compelled by that like the like to just a drink in smokes from we'd and just enjoy the music you don't have to go you know you i mean i like you don't have to divert alliance but it's it's it makes it sound like it's a matter of sort of will and it's not it that's why are saying connecticut's like i don't have i'm compulsive in other ways right now i get it i get it that's why i'm saying you're lucky unlucky yeah so that's how okay unlucky so let's talk about you know the the bands that define this thing and the ark of this book because yeah like i just i i think i got my first walkman album like six months ago okay i'm larry liking it so okay i think i got that guy so record i thought that was get those good singer yeah so the strokes you knew that you saw them become what they want us in then and then like the the white trips our guests were coming in from detroit occasional yeah but i didn't the white strips were not like sort of first generation in new york of that were like any who has that were the strokes interpol yay as an lcd soundsystem feel like the whole lcd soundsystem thing like people are like you got your view murphy guy got your mike i don't know what he did so i had to get quite catch up with dfa miyazu jonathan the guy over what is the aga he sent me all this shit yeah i like that the prince worn dance called record yes good first record i love okay maharidge starting went ahead to go find me that record like i said you have one of them around their way it not be you know we have one ring laying around here we were using as a as a as a like a a map for when you eat your time castle your way into this that's you will love james and y'all that's i listen to a no it's great it's great i watch the movie and i i actually narrated a short documentary five lcd thousands of heavier like who the fuck is this no anyway script evaluated out but like i know he something because he mental i too a lot of people like i can see how they met something that people can also see how they kind of like you know kind of like well there's a there's a gap pure that was once occupied by the talking heads yeah that we should climb in do totally the talking heads said that i mean that's what i got no problem that kinds of sending okay i am not jane so you're not to defend now i understand how music work tell me more i understand you tell me my understand that there is now out of new she it yes and that you just keep inventing the old shit i think i mean yeah all right sure i think the thing that all the judge the the period that the book covered with the book is about is not music it's about all the things we i talked at it's about it's about new york it's the central character it's about what it feels like for this group of people at that period of time under to do a thing that is eternal as we just described which is to be young and to feel on scene and to get together with certain friends serendipitous lay that you meet who unlock something in u n two in the shadow of lake at theoretical anonymity make something beautiful that makes you feel alive i mean it's pure that's like that's art that's young people that's new york city that's rock and roll that the but it's important for the book that the context is also from my generation are these people that we're talking about it's happening in in coincidence with all these other major global events like napster we just 2000 and nine eleven which is one hundred percent you know a huge part of this story obviously and it's about and then the reinvention of brooklyn and the commodification of brooklyn and the exporting of that via the internet the newlyborn internet to the world as this sort of notion of how to live like a lifestyle brand to be earth to by going to interview james he said i was trying to dip into that like the brooklyn idea in williamsburg and all this stuff in kenneth ease my way in he goes oh yeah that's all our fault like cool thanks scott and it's that's what so this story is about that but it's about that through the lens of paul banks and carreno and yes you know later jack white or the kingsley on guys or whatever and then off to england and off to the killers in vegas and around the world but that record we should nikola pile of what you did have it'll be about three hours them sti no than i i know i the jonathan firefighter that's a hall in allied it yeah that's a you know you get points for that that's a big crowd point the area the i like one thousand out is great i thought it was pretty good but those bans i mean to answer your questions such as it is it's like there's no like yeah there's nothing new under the sun and this is a retaliating of a generational story there will be i i believe that people make things new i i'm not one of those people that yadav a problem with appropriation i don't have a problem with with the of the evolution of music and he because like if you really look at rockets the people that really make something completely new or generally misunderstood and you may be years later people like i think i get it and somewhere they're like nato the other but there's a core group of fans that are sort of like worthy the only one said get it yet that bullshit any basically the story of the book too i mean if this is mark says this in the book i mean he's one of the greatest characters in it where he's basically like look i was 28 and writing for spain or whatever less was thirty something his thirty already and writing for span and like mark who had an encyclopedia harry say that pete accent encyclopedic thank you very much sandy pratt thing music and film knowledge and all that stuff of was sitting there in new york city loving york city's sort of but just board and that the thing that this that this that there's the sort of beginning of the book that everyone had in common energized boredom energy everyone was bored james murphy was bored he did not know carreno carreno was bored she did not know julian julian was bored gillian didn't know paul paul uh the interpol paul was bored and it was like in their own independent corners of this town at that period of time they all did something about that board and then mark spitz or sara or any of the other sort of non musicians but journalists future bloggers a and our people like all the different sort of um i don't know contestants in this in this like road show here all had in common that sense of what we have here right now is really not enough and we need to like build something cooler and no one else is doing it so we're gonna do it so when spits heard like i mean he says this hilariously in the book where he's just like you know when i heard the white straits it took me a minute to figure out that i was being saved because it was my job to write about mark mcgrath every day and like there it was boring it oh yeah loaded orient and that's the story idea like i get it i get it it's like well boredom mikey to classify all those artis as board i understand that but i think that if you in the history of of what happened with punk rock in the sort of like you know kind of strange angry apathetic posturing that happened is that what it comes down to though anybody who surfaces with any consistency may be board but their workers oh right well that oh totally i mean and that's also new york city like everyone in that town has to labour via the i got a want it yeah and you've got to keep pushing two two to sort of break away from the pack of garbage because in any city especially that size you know for every one may be original band there's going to be like twenty guys just tooling through rehash especially in an era where i mean it's hard to in it's hard to overstate this and it is crazy now but i mean it really seems crazy now that like being in a rock band i loved the guys and dumped than fired or talk about this and later the walkman they talk about how like telling your friends that you were in a band was like now i take us that late yeah it was like really didn't elettronica music kills janjaweed could do we have to go through this aid rallies yes on thursday is at sad than you know like you're gonna make us do that you'll biased drinks rate i mean it was like the least possible cool thing to do and and it was like lame and and kind of an opposition on your friends to ask them to conceive lesser so this whole the it's hysterical because relatively quickly people would be dressing across the country and around the world like they had just been thrift in on the lowery side but not when these bans formed but that's interesting because that whole thing you know that thrifty thing has reinvented itself with every generation of people yeah it's like the now like their thrift in 1980's clothing and i'm like no i know i now i'm feeling that to it's weird like his when i was in high school we were thrift in shark skin yeah not a better yeah yeah and then i had ended at kinda the whole for you know that rockabilly kind of boos like whatever the fuck it was going after the suits in any time we speak to someone about this like can we address this with the culture in general that we just nominate certain erez as as as take as as out of the loop of of going to be rediscovered some ambitious ivan around anymore like fortunately for now everything is made so badly can i know that will never happen you'll never never be thrifty 2017 they should is not going to hold up maybe we've inadvertently solve the problem rallying stealing the fascists that were previously thrift it yeah this is not even making shit that will hold up to be so maybe we just need a generation a cycle through that in like twenty years people will actually have to create new stuff because it will literally going at all disintegrate and have to create outfits said will withstand the heat of there i'm sorry i've taken me right out of there i did it i'm sorry for him you're not enclosed outfits with of'short new mexico's supposed to fair relatively well i mean waters going to be a problem but waters going to be a problem but we have the mountains we aquifers dory right on an akko yeah we give a lot of as i understand it no no eight i think we give a lot of water to california so mother fugger's he had one of the california's thirsty mansour okay so like i know owner free burger this one again with a list of names like oh i show you read all your quotes first come on of course yes okay then you looked at the list through an area in and i kinda poked around it like you know the chapter headings ps but a vote like i don't know grizzly bear the national i came much really lay to and i understand why they're good but i i don't know that i go back to the records up much tv on the radio maize i listen to their first and second record i'm like holy shit this is the media their incredible yet the a as the first couple of records i listened to her i had him the hives i had that record i remember liking so what is your problem nothing we're just get vampire weaken don't think i've ever heard him all right we'll interpol i think i got a recent record with like their back in a mike i missed it the first time pretty good we've routines just gotta whoever teens rokaya feeling about pretty good yeah kind of punky right yeah yeah i hope we will come on something and you'll be like you really have to go and do that is that what you're looking for ya well i buy a records i'm i'm mike i mean i mean a renaissance had music appreciation i'll send you a list i need i don't know like i have your book i know yet we'll you do though actually 'cause you can't start gone mouldy reaches yeah amazing did you play who's got the crowd i don't have it all right we'll play who's got the crap by the multi pages is just one song well that song in particular is your gateway drug for them dave across comedian i know him with his worse are you hold steady i like that guy greg gregory great right yeah he's a good talkers if thinker is good the killers i like that okay kingsley on first who records and crime what happened well y but okay that that's another alternate title for this book sure is where's the staying power while they're all still making albums and touring and dura al like literally all of these people yeah so like you okay let's talk about them what happened what did have well it's up first talk about like the whole that you know a nine eleven left in the world in that like in terms of near all over that chapter see that's another place right you would you but compounding the board white whatever that boredom was was that horrendous existential to terror sadness grieving like i think i talked to spits about that a bit did he ah but a lot of this came out of that well it didn't come out of that it riot it was positioned as gross that word is under the circumstances to be heard in a different way and buy more people as a result of it so lake nino none of these important records the first as record the first strokes record the first interpol record early dfa staff none of that had been was written post nine a lead and it was not a response to that ren before but it was about you know it was about all these themes that we are just talking about yet culture considered obsolete like sadness and anxiety and loud guitars as the solution to that as an expression of that is a response to being alive right it was like oh that's old news and then you know the towers came down and new york city is under attack and america is under attack and it makes you kind of return to the the sort of lake core aesthetics of rebellion and that's rock and roll so what are you want to hear you on here jack fucking white playing guitar you wanna hear the urgency of the first strokes record he wanna you want a kind of a manic toughness the that and i think so these bans who it's not like if nine eleven hadn't happened the strokes wouldn't have broken an englanda had already broken in england and kind of ignited this industrywide like doubletake towards new york before nine eleven happened there album was supposed to come out like the week after nine eleven the first one in the states so it was already kicking off but what nine eleven did is a couple of things i thank and this is argued in the book it it it animated it it increase the number of people who were immediately feeling the need for that kind of sound and it also turned the world's attention to new york city culturally in a way that it had not been it had not had the attention of of sort of like global cool hounds in that way in sense i dunno i also like it they were it was also the guy seventy hanshin for perseverance yes i mean ranked sympathy yeah you know you're bruce springsteen how to go to werleigh hurst tracy and got them back call tied to hit it and yeah and i think i mean all these bans talk about touring in the wake of that and being it off doing comedy in the wake of sure i and the but being cast is kind of emissaries for new york and again for this idea of what new york is about that the entire world on some level was either either loving your heating at that point in new ways it was it was interesting time because if you were new yorker and you did live there yeah you're like we're we're gonna fight yes totally and we're thinking about that now and and it and the other thing that it did i think for the purposes if this seen such as it is and tune day from tv on the radio talks about this in the book i think he when he when he said this to me it really kind of it was a turning point behind her standing as he talks about how the szekely he thinks nine eleven put a kind of pause button on the jansher vacation race there has already happening i mean the the sort of post the giuliani into bloomberg cleaning up of everything sure that would eventually result in the new york the slick anodyne near erni lives there no one does it's it's saudi billionaire's who have apartments for their homes yet they're summer homes that they like might go to it's me the ranch russian it's all yeah and it is it's well chinese i don't know what an honor i it's it's just feel like you've done it feels like it doesn't have a a cultural identity has architectural and the identity right now is money money has a bleaching a fact eventually on culture i think in right now new york feels to me like burnt out literate like whited out like nine i'm not saying that race i'll have her hands out in the way that it was burnt out was bankrupt brought down in the way back right that that like acid has been porn on it and it's it's blake bleached out like i don't know i mean i keep seeing you know i don't know what causes this but when a create is her your it has deadened yeah by capitalism yet money on and by people that don't that day they don't like it will be interesting to do really explore what is rooting there you know in the sense that you know it is completely antithetical that to what it used to be when it was i think the big difference was there was a time were always money there but the people that worked there could live this and now that central and what's funny and not ha ha funny but of course like the it's all connected to this era because that's way jane saying it's our fault is funny the in an again brooklyn brooklyn because it's all those people the new york became the kind of place where you would invest in that kind of apartment because of all of the culture that that re in live in debt and made it interesting and sort of buzz he and brand rival in that way and now all these people who bought their on some level whether they know it or not as a result of this this latest ingretation of that new york thing i live in a place where none of those people can be but this is also like in a way so boring because it's like no shit that's called the cycle of art madda called lake art versus commerce 101 i mean it's going to just play its that and held out over how they all moved out of the city like the that generation of their artist once they got money they all live here they orly or here or they live in new jersey or connecticut or are you not a lot of them keep sort of like i love this i understand this instinct i feel this instinct they keep places in new york like a little apartment on near the barrier rodal whatever lay in just to kind of be like no no i still guide of me i still have a place wrestle like this so this the the ark of this book front yo two thousand eleven sort of the ends in brooklyn beat becoming the like the the the wealth center of hipsters totally and the but also just that that did it ever have any integrity other than for sure but i also just think it's yes it did i'll answer that but also that the idea that that would have one of the things that's hard to see from now because it's so obvious that that is what took place is how unlikely that seemed that that would at the time if you had been sitting there in two thousand two and and sort of prognosticating that in twenty in ten years or whatever like williamsburg a place you could not get cabs to take you was going to be the default locus of cool for the globe for but it's weird because there was some would have been laughed out of that conversation what's really like i lived in the story i had an apartment in the story from 95 five hill like two thousand and two whenever they might sub wetter was just informed by the new known of the building that he now add the lease uh quick note with note under the door there were people like louis had a place in williamsburg there were people moving into long island city yeah and likes her was sort of happening but that was because you could get space fits dole rahab winning is that it's just like everyone move to williamsburg because it was cheap brand because in this to return to it ten days saying i mean it was like you could get free he indeed siddig met each other because they lived in the same converted loft and they were passing each other's rooms enough and seeing that the same shit basically was on the floor at each other's rooms and it was sort of like i guess we should probably talk you know you've got a same weird stuff in there and like loss and in that's not like it's so easy to be like wow that must have been so cool and it's like it's it's only romantic later at the time it's like i need to live somewhere and and and be able to paint place with that right but that's that's the story of the amine ripe but that context or that that framework of life has repeated itself yes generations generation totally though the yeah the law thathat's another title that we here but the thing about nine eleven that tunisia was saying that's important is that whole justification we're talking about in the money in the bleaching out or however you want a phrase it these are they his theory and i by this now is that that was coming much sooner and nine eleven pause debt because there was a sense i mean people thought no one would travel there anymore no one wanted to get on planes it was like leaving for a second it was like is new york's economy going to die this the is this really like are things you can get cheap they were rally are things are things going to you know plummet here is it gonna be russ 70s new york thing again because no one will tourism will dinro wanna live here and all that stuff is they're going to be because it was it was terrifying and it was like you know every plane that flew overhead it was i mean people there were a couple of years where and so what that created for the purposes of this book is this weird a period of uncertainty that was really a gift to these bans because there was a couple of years and this is my my hay day really of lake going out in seeing shows during that time it was two thousand to two thousand three maybe into two thousand four but fair li where it was like it was just wild everyone was like are we gonna die but hey let's party en route druggie and it got dirty and it wasn't that expensive yet rent wasn't going up really of sort of just like the whole the whole apparatus was trying to figure out how this was going to shake out and it was like kohl let's play the you know you should read boca for answer some of those questions behind the scenes what did you ever read that book securing the city on my god who wrote i like i like i recommend this book to so many people i did you secretly right it no oh could cover ominous yes it's a bow it looks like the beginning of every law and order old school lunch or episode is by christopher dickey who i believe is james dickey's son in the i still see him as a you you shows up on shows on cnn and stuff but it's really about how how new york had to create its own count yes i should read that it is to the injury yes 'cause it was like we had we're our own city and we ourselves yeah because federal government and the cia and the fbi were not talking real yeah there was in the federal government was not really stepping up so these guys know what was going yeah and it was it was with giuliani still who was like we've got to make our own counterterrorism force and we've got to have international alley yet ray kelly yeah food and this guy cohen associated irate ocala read this like and then i'll be like i should have talked to him for the buck this is my life like i wake up still at night is damage extradition don't even choke of add that why never writing another oral history ever again or only organized oh it made me move state to a cabin in the woods by myself because they had an emotional breakdown like it's so hard that organization is really a nightmare well you did it and people like it yeah and you know it seems to be all in their uae dill per is let's check it out they clear talk of what do you want from me i i think it is hilarious eiriksson i let my favorite people around the book art like that one of my favorite pieces written about the book was by my friend dan aasi who hates who does not like any of this music basically he's in the book talking about conner over since he loves turnovers but he basically doesn't he's a music nerd anna anna a rock critic and this it he's just like all his hand suck basically i mean not literally but it's not his stuff but the thing is like i have i like i i'm not a connor overspent but i have him in here handsome my best interviews with people who are mike i will that is why and say like i'm at that's basically i think i i enjoy the fact that this isn't your world i think that's more fun lagging learn the creator of service project to talk to someone like that then someone who's like julian casablanca's this my favorite rock star of all time you're like well you're gonna love this yet boy do i have a book free like the this is writing i take this this part of journalism seriously like it's not my job to write a press release for one of these fans its job to convince those who aren't naturally inclined to take this as interesting that there's something there well here's what i have to say i'm happy you kids had your okay are you gonna try to say that that was not condescending he has had a knock out of it is out of all right it's a joke it was it was it was a sarcastic coffin ha ha ha pa let's shift gears demar serious yet um you know i and then the private police state fire juliana of just personal stuff i mean like i i've and talk to you really since markelle passed away a eulogized him on this show thank you for doing and you know because i like the guy and i literally your text to them like would like a week before it happened here do you talk about what happened can you talk about it or not i can totally i talk about i liked talking that i think people are a little afraid understandably to ask me about him because it's france you romantically involved on and off your best friends he was on the up and up again it seemed yes 100 percent it's really tragic i mean the answer to what happened which is what i guess is like not known i suppose i mean i don't really know i don't know anything other than he died and then i i texted you too to say sorry but then i got no information and then you know you just sit there and go igor would have and what that you it's not he's one of those guys ruettgers bound to happen but he didn't seem like it was going to happen that way well a lot of people you feel like it's bound to happen and then it doesn't i mean mark was had a history obviously of drug use and i think most people assume that he died of an overdose and that's not what happens i mean he didn't he we don't know for sure because there was not an autopsy performed huh so there's no leisure a cause of death that attack i mean cause of death unknown as far as i know you ea yes so this is what you're not afraid to talk about we have no information kind of accept i mean they i guess they just think like i so i was here and you know we shared custody of our dogs for six so mark or seven an hour years together in from my 20s and then we broke up like 10 years ago and but we stayed incredibly close friends and he was my creative partner basically like that mark this book would not exist without mark he is the person on the other end of the line consistently throughout frame iin merrier well like naughty i mean sometimes like sometimes is needed grady stuff but more just all writers need like the the i'll people i guess that create the the sort of like hootie who is on the red phone was on it was like i don't know and this isn't working in what do i do and like help and also i just need to that it's like that was the dark we are really really tight creatively and he would do the same we would talk to each other about writing every day and our dogs and so i was out here and he had been in a period of incredibly badge oppression for a couple of years on i mean probably his whole life it had been really bad and um i was helping him in his his family was helping him you know try to get the right mental health care never quite came together for him and eventually and so eventually after a couple of years lake road than the month before he died he was better than i've ever seen and he may have told you that india he was like like running a little bit yeah he was taking better care lindo visit no no one he hadn't dan i mean i think i know that mark lied to me about drugs or the years he wasn't like here's what happened the night that he died he went to a bar on the night that i think he died he went to a bar because he i mean we don't know exactly when he died he went to of our on february second and he had a couple of drinks drink and a half with a friend and at six thirty something like that and he came home and he walked the dogs with this friend and he was inside his house with the chain on the door and the locks on the door and a bowl of pasta on his on his like coffee table they found him and i couldn't hear i didn't hear from him the next day and i was worried and i didn't hear for him the next morning and we he didn't do that with that i mean he the dog think mark loved dogs er that anything in the world and wouldn't fuck around if their howarth and knew i was all the way out in california i mean he was like mortar arctic about the doksan i am pia and that's how they a his eventually i woke up a bunch of people up in his super went into his apartment and he found him just slumped over on his couch with dinner on the table so like as i have never done heroin but my understanding is you get big bell right and also there was no drug paraphernalia in his house and no drugs oregon went yeah i mean it's an aneurysm or a heart attack or or what any he i mean the dogs were fine they were in that house with him for thirty six hours and they were thirsty and in america pasta here at left that here too viking luggage joni it in like pardon me asshole i'm hungry and like their sausage in that layer she's too short can get up to that just short short leg's well you know it's it's it's nice to know that it it probably wasn't some eur grisly relapse no i mean if fit you know i don't know enough about you tell me can you like have secretly donovan of heroin fight hours before and then go home and make dinner and then die from doing that i mean a dozen quite at up but i you know but it seems to me that he put himself and his body through and you not up to him you know you know and if you don't know what you're like i don't know one is less physical was i mean you could only had one he high made him go and get one with wh what was the informality all systems go but you don't i mean this is what the there's i mean i'm going to be dealing with moves it out over that out of my life by not heart stuff that well i mean right like this is if you have a blake blood clot if you've an an aneurysm is undetectable i mean you can't like you can show people and this we don't have any control over any of this in the illusion is that lake via if you take care of yourself and you get physical zinni's sort of like drink your green juice that there is a sense of of control over warding off death in it's just not like that and like mark abuse the shit out of his body but that's also no guarantee that he was going to die in that way and you can take really gets care of yourself and you can get hit by a but i mean you know or diet something undiagnosed it's just what happens and it's horrible it's horrible but the one thing we do know was quick yeah and he was there with the two people in the world that he loved the most which are those two dogs no good swear to god i i'm sorry for your loss and congratulations on the book and it was nice of you to dedicated to him of guel i my friend imran told a a really potentially off color but actually amazing joke about this on this happened because imran loved mark in knew him very well a lesbian he goes so that's what it took to get together because there was dedicated to my parents and they got for this is the only thing mark could have done and i mean you know you knew him quite well and you guys have a shared sense of real black humor and so do i and mark i mean i can hear and sometimes it's being like the biggest promised that book was there is not enough amee nso i had to be something that will yeah you've got to have the dark your mercy you don't you know so the bottom doesn't fall out was nice talkin united sock india that was fun those good those promotional in some ways don't forget if you're in now way you can join me and brendan for our only l a book event and signing this sunday october twenty nine th at seven pm go to live talks la dot org for the tour page of wto of pod dot com i can't play ktar tired and a little depressed boomer lives uh uh uh