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"kingsbury taylor" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

KOA 850 AM

11:11 min | 9 months ago

"kingsbury taylor" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"Welcome to the show on cable a loaded with Louis Kathy Lee with we were back at nine OO six on this Tuesday morning. you know when the alarm went off this morning I I thought it was about three like three thirty in the morning it was dark it was cool yeah just a great day to sleep right well I tell you what when the alarm went off for me Dave it was three thirty in the morning. right yeah no but I think because of the you know sort of gloomy conditions in that yes good sleeping weather map it is there yes you're on the air Kathy us are going to the show what sorry I you know the time between the two shows sometimes nature calls here we go here we go yeah. and I had to walk to a different floor your feedback on your headphones so you forget you forget what for the shows on yes. all right I went down one of the good to put a bathroom on this floor of actually yours now this is going to be the no bathroom floor with this is that they're going to test our will power as we start to age a little bit actually the back up the third floor to only make us go all the way down to the second floor yeah look at the steps we can get during the show. so they're trying to this is part of a fitness program is a part of the I heart wellness program there were two thousand twenty. as I just took a peek over there I didn't see your bathroom you didn't know they didn't take the bathrooms out tonight I don't know why I don't think they would be if I don't know that that would be we go right to the HR department don't look through never mind there it's just on the other side of the new wall that they play okay so we're going to go through to separate. doors to get to our bathroom women's room not just fine partner long as we are that sixty in better shape than our bosses in their forties we're good I feel pretty good about that yeah I do to Dave and I think that'll probably will keep it that way no no doubt. not go in the other direction. yeah gosh we get a lot of things to talk about today we're gonna John Elway join this here believe that said about ten thirty is at ten thirty dragon give or take yeah take grant Armand millennial producer is ill today so get well soon grant I didn't know he said he's been battling something for a couple weeks other great women known bringing us water so. if you have a word about the water who's gonna bring us the water during break even though is the fact that he breathed on our water all yeah they might have contaminated everything that we all might be sick next week I'm a little I've got a little little frog no relief just a little frog Gil you know I mean I'm I I'm not deal but I you get a little from okay so you're not said no no no no I'm talking too much out of jail in a lot of practice now I mean I've been doing three hours radio everyday I think that's what it is I'm not a yellow report well normally I don't yell too much about the games when you call the games do you ever do you feel like your your voice later that night feels a little weak Rocco games yeah a little I will say this after a game I eat the my voice is taxed yeah I don't know I mean you're you know they get how long's again three hours or so and you're sort of that you're at a peak where. when there's a good play you wanna get excited and you you you try to be on top of your game but I I would say that night on like a Sunday night typically in even a Monday morning yeah my voices this little rather remember the times I've done play by play same thing it does texture voice me that that's a lot for your voice because not only the game which is three hours to get the pre game which is to be out in the post game which is whatever yeah right so you were you yeah that's a lot of talking for you especially this year. yeah but a tough one Dave yeah old for did you see this I actually thought about this last night when I was watching the the Steelers Bengals game and and Zach Taylor the new coach yeah they go so far as well yeah four of the new coaches are winless to start the season Fangio Kingsbury Taylor and floor as and it's the first time that's happened in a hundred years in the NFL for new coach is going to win listen the first four games wow yeah I had not seen that yeah I just saw that this morning I was managing about it last night but I who's a tree we go I think tweeted out this morning yeah I knew sect Taylor obviously watch that game last night it Cincinnati looks like a hot mess on offense they do so I knew I knew the bangles were winless and follow the cardinals me we we watch Rick unite watched somewhere on the road one game when they came back to tie the lions was that this was that the opener yeah we're we're we hit was the opening yeah opening game it was a tight we were at a restaurant somewhere yes Sir why would we not remember where we're Oakland we were all in what area of the bay area that's right and they came back in line said a big lead going to the fourth and then the cardinals came back in you figured it was sort of a moral victory because it looks like Arizona was going to it was twenty four six in the fourth they came back force overtime if you think it okay you know not bad but I didn't realize they haven't won since. yeah and I thought the same thing with the way they came back up for a while but you know this this kid Kyler Murray looks like he's got it and these guys are going to be okay well they haven't been okay not yet and and when you look at the Broncos Broncos could easily be too until. and nobody even even people that didn't think the Broncos were going to be any good this year what is said one four to start the year I think almost everybody thought they beat the raiders to start the season on Monday night yeah by the the Broncos will win some games this year cardinals might not bagels might not dolphins might not dolphins could go winless they could go winless and I don't think they seem to care that much. they're they're they're read total rebuild mode. and that they're they're looking at you know high draft picks next year and unload the expense of talent here though it's like so early in the season you would think that they would care right but see the hard thing for me is it's a new coach Brian floors as the new coach so I I'm I'm fairly certain you don't sit down with him in a room. have a nice. Cup of coffee and say Hey by the way we get rid of all these guys I I know you can't win this year it's okay we're just going to point to the future I mean I. but it looks like that's what they're doing but I I can't imagine that an owner whatever sit down with a coach especially a brand brand new coach and say this is kind of how we're gonna roll this year yes tough way to start but he he was what defensive coordinator in doing that for a year one year one year so he he's relatively new. in the NFL coaching elite group it was kind of like Vance Joseph was a one year DC in Miami before you got the Broncos head job so Flores probably just happy to get a head coaching job that be my guest yeah maybe so I I've got Rick and Cathy I'm sure you do too with with the way the Broncos of started I mean this is the Broncos town people really care about this team but I I bet I've had since Sunday and this is Tuesday. four five people come up to me whether to Starbucks or wherever actually at the cherry creek high school couple people wanting to know do you think they'll trade players this year before once the trade deadline do you think they'll trade any players I cannot ever remember and again these are fans so. you know you put zero stock in this if you want to but I just can't remember ever having that question asked of me in the previous twenty nine seasons alive call Broncos football because they've been that good. Rocco's are one of those teams that's been good for decades yeah. and I Chriss name Chris Harris juniors I am comes up Bon Bon Miller's name comes up in manuals I have anybody see manual but but it did that that would be a me those three guys would be and I'm not I don't put it out there that I'm saying Hey you could look for one of those are more to be traded before I think it's October thirty first at the trade deadline. I'm saying it's sort of at the forefront of you know the consciousness of at least some Broncos fans I guess just given how the team started in a job the tears his ACL that that broke right after we finished our show yesterday I'm driving home in like what should I schist shocking because he played we saw when he heard his name we watched him we were they took him to the tent then they took him in the locker room then he came out and he was stretching and warming up on the sideline went back in the game he made. not an incredible move if you have the ability to go back in and watch that in in what turned out to be the final drive of the game. worse he he winds up to the left of the quarterback he engages then comes around they run it you know like a Texas stunt he comes around all the way to the guard and then is he sort of fighting off a blocker in almost running by the quarterback he reaches out and swats the ball out of Gardner Menchu's hands not bounces right back to the quarterback who then some health throws a very short completion that's the play that they call Vaughn for roughing the passer because he got his hands of the quarterback's face but go look at the play the Chubb makes I don't think in weight he he did that with a torn ACL it's crazy it's unbelievable yeah I am did you Terry R. C. L. I N. nine time I never lived MCO MCL I did okay yeah I've had people tell me that it that they tore the ACL and we're still able to do things. maybe not quite to the level they're used to but there's been players who have torn their ACL stayed in the game well we played most of his career LA then you try to sell it yeah yeah and so I I you know I guess it's not surprising because it has happened before but he played at a high level like that I didn't even know it and they said he woke up yesterday morning and what won't matter what's going on here and I went in for an MRI or they got him it quickly for an MRI and what a shame because that guy. to me was the leader of the of the defense he was the leader on the defensive side of the ball he does that he does he's in the lead. S. rusher who.

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"kingsbury taylor" Discussed on Chicago's Business Authority

Chicago's Business Authority

04:23 min | 1 year ago

"kingsbury taylor" Discussed on Chicago's Business Authority

"Yeah. So we did a lot on let me quickly. Go back to the NFL. Jay Glazer just had some good stuff in that interview about Odell Beckham. I forgot to ask him. Hey, are you surprised the giants didn't come out and say, Nope? Odell czar guy because that to me is somewhat telling again, if they do open that door than they have to respond to all predictions, rumors, etc. But again, this laser this isn't some fly by night dude on social media tweeting that he's an insider lasers a legit insider. He's been doing this for years. So he he made a good point about when Patrick Mahomes went into a combine meeting or lead up to draft interview. He just wowed people with his recall, and you want me to do this right handed or left handed like Patrick Mahomes killed it. I think Tyler Moore is gonna crush it. Gavin. I believe he's going to go number one. Now he's over under draft position last week was nine and a half. Now, there are small limits on those bets because obviously there could be some insider trading. Somebody knows something friend of an agent friend of a team, blah, blah, blah. And you wonder if that number? Kyla marie? Over under draft position nine and a half is that quickly going to be adjusted to like five and a half. Because I think the giants you think he's going to go number one. I don't why wouldn't he you mean? Like number one quarterback taken. Yeah. I think the cardinals would seriously look at him. So if you look at Mahomes, and this is it's fascinating. Because in the draft process, you'll see guys they love to talk about what players cannot do. Well, he can't do this isn't this? He's not capable of being this. You got to focus on what guys can do Patrick Mahomes can do a lot of things in a certain system. Chiefs drafted him. Let it marinate for a year and in that system. He absolutely crushed it. Cliff Kingsbury is a spread big twelve guy. Why can't he just say Kyla Marie? My system is gonna crush give me a couple of offensive lineman. Give me a receiver take him number one overall. I mean, Mitch Trubisky didn't have nearly the acclaim that Kyla Maria. He went number two Jared Goff. Was that a great college quarterback? Right. You went number one are trading up for those guys Carson Wentz coming out of what? North Dakota state was injured all the time. Number one. I can't mistake the hypocrisy here that you're saying the NBA players time to grow and they can get better. And you're giving up on Josh Rosen after one well. Yeah, that's work. It's interesting, and we'll probably do this. After the break. I'm not throwing in the towel on Rosen. But something big change. They got a new day new head coach and. I don't think Kingsbury should tale should Kingsbury Taylor. An offense to Rosen or should he get a quarterback that fits his office? Because Kingsbury is known as an offensive guy. They got him because he's a he's a bit of a maverick offensive guy. I would've wanted to change what he does best four somebody. I would want them to find somebody who does what he does best. I know that sounds confusing. I understand what you're saying. But that's a lot of confidence and Kingsbury who didn't win a lot of games. That's true Kingsbury also now he had no defense at Texas Tech. But Mike Leach didn't really have a defense one at Texas Tech. Anyway, wolf we'll talk about that by the way that would make him an all-time snake? If he did that's USC backs out goes to Arizona, and then just screw. So that quarterback who they have who is ready. I think he's mentioned confidence in and and we're not treat. I think he's many, you know, he came out yesterday. I think it said that the story line. I hope that happens. Snake? You could always buy real quick. I looked at the GM's history. Steve this is going to be his last. He has not done. Well, the last six or seven years, well and July fourth last year. He was having a so great guy. He needs to deliver big time. And I would go bigger go home with him. And I will go Kayla. Marie. We'll talk about a little of that will wrap up an NBA next here on the big lead. Fox Sports radio. How many days.

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"kingsbury taylor" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

11:56 min | 1 year ago

"kingsbury taylor" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

"We know the guy is we're waiting on florist to be official just as long as it's outta mcdaniels situation. Where the next thing, you know, for goes back to New England and says, oh, Bella checks in opened his mind to me. So I'm not gonna take the Miami Dolphins gig. But that does not seem to be the case. But I'm pretty sure if we were talking about mcdaniel's this time last year, while many people probably said the same things about Josh mcdaniels. That says good as gone, but you look at the guys that these eight are replacing Dirk koetter got three years in Tampa. Vance Joseph almost got only one year in Denver ended up getting to Adam gay Scott three years with the dolphins. Todd Bowles got four years what the jets Marvin Lewis? He got sixteen with the Bengals Steve walks. Got one year. They said goodbye. You Jackson guy to in a few games. And the McCarthy was there for thirteen seasons in Green Bay. So you look at the new hires leflore Kingsbury Taylor gays kitchens. Arians Fangio and reportedly Brian force. None of those hires. Make me go. Wow. I really love it. Great fit. Unbelievable. And there's really nothing that I go. I absolutely can't stand it. So I ask you as I'm trying to gauge your interest at eight five five two one two four CBS who's the high? They liked the most and who's the higher that you hate the most. But I think patience is such a big thing. Because a lot of these situations. You have fan bases that are associated with losing. And they wanna see winning in the worst way. And when you have franchises that a bitchy lose. You don't always see fan bases. Have a lot of patients because there's patient is so thin to begin with because there's so much frustration with their current team. So when I look at these eight hires, let me go through and try to sort out where I think the patient's level will be because some of these hires are extremely young and they're gonna make mistakes in the first year just inevitable. So Matt Lefort I think there's a lot of patients there. He's thirty nine. You have to think that if he was brought in Rogers was on board with that. But this is probably the last coach Aaron Rodgers has a must've. It's just a disaster in your one and really bad in your two. And then they have to move on. You would think that this is probably if you want to get to the playoffs right away. This job is probably the best job to take in getting to the playoffs right away. Because you have the quarterback. So this is probably Roger's last head coach not a guarantee, but most likely there will be patients there before because Rodgers will be able to do enough to get this team probably back in the right direction. And there's probably just a little bit of fresh air with Rogers and just see could now maybe get back to the Rogers that we got to see and maybe he just needed a change in the organization. That's not a knock on Mike McCarthy. Great coach won the Super Bowl and all that. Very good coach, but need to move on sometimes when a relationship get stale Arizona, cliff Kingsbury. I'm not so sure if there's going to be a lot of patients here because this was not a popular higher. So this is one of those hires. You probably get two to three years. And then if it's not good after year three or in the middle. You're probably be looking for a new coach, but I'll Kingsbury everyone. So against this watch. This will end up being the best hire. Like, I just every time. We all go. How does this guy get higher? How do you do this? What are you doing? And then boom the guy ends of coaching for six seven years. But I feel like his personality will be able to mesh which Rosen, and they'll be able to challenge each other in an intellectual way. But that's a roster. That does need some help the Bengals was that Taylor. Hey, if you hire thirty five year old coach you'd better have some patients, especially when the last coach was here for sixteen years, and Marvin Lewis, they're nice job turn around the Bengals. But never wanna playoff game zone seven. She had to get rid of them should have got rid of him years ago. But they did not. Here's. The bottom line. I don't know. What Zack Taylor is going to be the head coach. There will be patients. I don't trust Mike Brown whatsoever to fix this football team. I just don't the jets with Adam gays as New York talk show host Joe beningo who I was talking with earlier today. And he said that if he doesn't meet a certain standard and get seven eight nine wins this year, then he could be fired. If your number one, I don't think that's going to happen. But in New York. You'll get a year. But you very rarely I get balls got four usually will get in that two to three range and with the jets. Let me remind you Mike mcalinden is the general manager. Mike mcalinden has not done a good job. So the patient series, then because of mcalinden doesn't draft. Well, at mcalinden doesn't spend the money the right way. Then he's out. And then do you get to the head coach or do you let a new GM come in? And continue the cycle were the GM inherits a coach, and then he's gonna firemen a few years. So I don't think says that long of a leash with the jets the Browns of Freddie kitchens now this already there, but you went with one of your own now the Browns are a team that they finished very hot. So you can't regress next year. So I don't think kitchens has this long leash and you hear he's a great guy. You hear that people think he'd be a good head coach? But if you don't do well in your number one. As that's going to be a trendy pick. This Chevron's going to be on Cleveland. If you don't do well in your number one. There will be a lot of pressure that in your number two, the bucks of Bruce Arians. How New Year's can Bruce Arians coach he's sixty six when I did interview with them a few months ago, he said or a few weeks ago, he said that the only thing he missed about football where the relationships he missed the grind the football. So what this health and all that? What probably three years max when this hires made probably three years max, I would say, but that quarterback is going to really determine how long Bruce Arians is there because they had to go through a rebuilt. I don't see Bruce Arians sticking around through a rebuild. Just don't Vic Fangio once again. The patients with Vic Fangio to me really does come down to Elway. And that's what happens you bring it a legend one day eventually have to say goodbye. And if Elway can't get this offense fix, and if he can't do that within two years, then you may have to move on from John Elway because he's not been able to find a quarterback since pay. And that's a big time problem so Fangio he's also older too. I don't think the leash is that long. I don't and then Brian forest, and you never know what the dolphins you never know. What Stephen Ross you don't he's thirty seven. He just got the job you'd think that's more of a three to four year type of deal like gays, and you gotta be winning and fixing the relationships with pliers and a good spot there. So when I look at all these jobs going in. I thought the three best jobs were the jets the Browns and the Packers. None of those hires really jump off the page. Are you go? Wow. They hit a home run doesn't mean they can't be home runs. But that's just the trends that you're seeing. Now, you're not seeing these real big household names. Get these jobs and a lot of them. Now is question marks like question. Mark could be great. Kingsbury question. Mark Taylor question-mark. Freddie kitchens question, Mark, even the fence side about Brian force. That's a question, Mark. And eventually time will tell how they do pan out and make our evaluations. We'll see how long they do get out. Stay two calls before the break. Let's go to Scott in Maine, Scott what you got for me. Lifelock fifty something year old. Puncos fan out in Portland. Maine long story short. I'm gonna try to keep a short as possible. Last year. Up until about the last three games of the year. Denver could have been a playoff game. They lost it arenas by three loss. So the Texans got hot in the middle of the year. And then they just had a lot of disappointments. Well, actually, no, I take it back. If you look at their records in the in the first like six or seven games other than the I mean, they're still losses other than the Baltimore. Just games. They were they were good all the way up state lost games. I mean loss is a loss of games. The chargers, I think with the chiefs by seven or less. So they were there. It was those last week games of the year. The Texans games that was coaching loss. What's his name? Well, Blake in my head coach right now van. Joseph was over his head. There was a lot of coaching mistakes at the end of the day away. This is this is it if Fangio cannot get it. Right. Elway's gone. They overpaid or case keenum's. What was it? But that's a contract that doesn't kill you. It's a two year deal. So case keenum not a good quarterback. But had with the Broncos people got caught their attention. They got they got off to a bad start with the record that after the bye week. They won the three games in a row. People started to buy with them and their coach didn't do a good job. And the team didn't do a good job. But for me, you know, Vic Fangio, hey, a lot of respect in Chicago. And you know, you hear all great things a little bit older. That's good the pressures on. I'm Vic Fangio for me. Now, his job may not last long because of the guy that the pressure is on. And that's John Elway. And always gotta get it. Right. You gotta get a quarterback. I can't give you a pass anymore. You've been you've been an embarrassment trying to find a quarterback ever since manning. He's got to get him back. And that's the surprising thing. He didn't take any of the pressure off of him. He could hide it all fence of minds and say it's up to the offensive minded coach to get it. Right. He went with the defensive minded coach. Absolutely. But if they hire month check, I'm not gonna say that the great hire for an offensive coordinator. But that will definitely improve the offensive line, which has been a problem firm. I don't know four or five year. Once again doesn't improve the quarterback. And that's the big problem with Denver. Johnny in Dallas. Go ahead. Johnny. I was calling about the best nine higher in the league. I'm a lifetime. Cowboys fan very excited about him the Saturday. I'm glad we still have Chris Rashard. Going. The sleep day. I said I think you'll be head coach in this league one day because you know, you've got some interest. This time around continues to good job in Dallas with that popularity. Then he'll probably be head coach one day in this league. All about him veteran himself, and you know, take the best position that helps him and his family, but considering what we're going into Saturday and really what I was born in the seventies. So you know, I've seen the good bad law that soak into my point. He's needed for us trying to accomplish at least a Super Bowl this year. It's a long shot that that's that's, you know, obviously, it's a long shot, but having him here still, I think it it really puts us in position to do something very nice. And who's to say that he won't be our head coach. We don't know how long it's going to be here. Yeah. I think GARRETT'S bought himself a little bit time with this turnaround this year, and I don't think that he's in big time danger. Even if they lose coming up later today, I do think that he'll still be back. But then if they have a disappointing your next to you never know without Jerry Jones does operate but with Christopher shard while respecting.

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"kingsbury taylor" Discussed on News & Talk 1380 WAOK

News & Talk 1380 WAOK

10:41 min | 1 year ago

"kingsbury taylor" Discussed on News & Talk 1380 WAOK

"We know the guy is we're waiting on forest to be official just as long as mcdaniels situation where the next thing, you know, for us goes back to New England and says, oh, Bella checks opened his mind to me. So I'm not gonna take the Miami. Dolphins gay. But that does not seem to be the case. But I'm pretty sure if we were talking about mcdaniel's this time last year, while many people probably said the same things about Josh mcdaniels that he's as good as gone, but you look at the guys that these eight are replacing Dirk cutter got three years in Tampa. Vance Joseph almost got only one year. In Denver ended up getting to Adam gates got three years with the dolphins. Todd Bowles got four years what the jets Marvin Lewis? He got sixteen with the Bengals Steve walks. Got one year. They said goodbye. You Jackson guy too and a few games. And the McCarthy was there for thirteen seasons in Green Bay. So you look at the new hires Kingsbury Taylor, gays, Kachins, Arians Fangio, and reportedly, Brian Forrest. None of those hires. Make me go. Wow. I really love the great unbelievable. And then there's really nothing that I go. I absolutely can't stand it. So I ask you as I'm trying to gauge your interest at eight five five two one two four CBS who's the higher? They liked the most and who's the higher that you hate the most. But I think patience is such a big thing. Because a lot of these situations. You have fan bases that are associated with losing. And they wanna see winning in the worst way. And when you have franchises that a bitchy lose. You don't always see fan bases. Have a lot of patients because there's patients is so thin to begin with because there's so much frustration with their current team. So when I look at these eight hires, let me go through and try to sort out where I think the patient's level will be because some of these are extremely young and they're gonna make mistakes in the first year. It's just inevitable. So Matt Lefort I think there's a lot of patients there. He's thirty nine. You have to think that if he was brought in Rogers was on board with day. But this is probably the last coach Aaron Rodgers has a must've. It's just a disaster in your one and really bad in your two. And then they have to move on. You would think that this is probably if you want to get to the playoffs right away. This job is probably the best job to take and getting to the playoffs right away. Because you have the quarterback. So this is probably Roger's last head coach not a guarantee, but most likely there will be patients there what before because Rodgers will be able to do enough to get this team probably back in the right direction. And there's probably just a little bit of fresh air with Rogers and just see now, maybe get back to the Rogers that we got to see. And maybe he just needed a change in the organization. That's not a knock on Mike McCarthy, Greg coach Super Bowl and all that. Very good coach, but you need to move on sometimes relationships, get stale Arizona, cliff Kingsbury. I'm not so sure if that's going to be a lot of patients here because this was not a popular higher. So this is one of those hires. You probably get two to three years. And then if it's not good after your three hundred middle year three you're probably be looking for a new coach. But I'll save it Kingsbury. Everyone's so against this watch this'll end up being the best hire. Every time. We all go. How does this guy get higher? How do you do this? What are you doing? And then boom the guy ends of coaching for six seven years. But I feel like his personality will be able to mesh with Josh Rosen, and they'll be able to challenge each other in an intellectual way. But that's a roster. That does need some help the Bengals Zack Taylor. Hey, if you hire thirty five year old coach you'd better have some patients, especially when the last coach was here for sixteen years, and Marvin Lewis, they're nice job turned around the Bengals but never wanna playoff game zone. Seven. She had to get rid of him should have got rid of him years ago. But they did not. Here's the bottom line. I don't know what Zack Taylor is going to be as a head coach. There will be patients. I don't trust Mike Brown whatsoever to fix this football team. I just don't the jets with Adam gays as New York talk show host Joe beningo who I was talking with earlier today. And he said that. If he doesn't meet a certain standard get seven eight nine wins this year, then he could be fired up to your number one. I don't think that's gonna happen. But in New York. You'll get a year. But you very rarely I I get balls got four usually will get in that two to three range and with the jets. Let me remind you Mike mcalinden is the general manager. Mike mcalinden has not done a good job. So the patient series, then because of mcalinden doesn't draft while at mcalinden doesn't spend the money the right way. Then he's out. And then do you get the head coach or do you? Let a new GM come in and continue the cycle where the GM inherits a coach. And then he's going to fire him in a few years. So I don't think cases that long of a leash with the jets the Browns of Freddie kitchens now this already there, but you went with one of your own now the Browns are team that they finish very hot. So you can't regress next year. So I don't think kitchens has this long leash and you hear he's a great guy. You hear that people think it'd be a good head coach. But if you don't do well in your number one. As that's going to be trendy pick. This year is going to be on Cleveland. If you don't do well in your number one. There will be a lot of pressure that in your number two, the bucks of Bruce Arians. How many years can Bruce Arians coach he's sixty six when I did it with them a few months ago, he said or a few weeks ago, he said that the only thing he missed about football or the relationships he missed the grind the football. So what this health and all that? What probably three years max. When this hires made probably three years max, I would say, but that quarterback is going to really determine how long Bruce Arians is there because they have to go through a rebuilt. I don't see Bruce Arians sticking around through a rebuild. I just don't Vic Fangio once again. The patients Vic Fangio to me really does come down to Elway. And that's what happens you bring it in one day. You're gonna eventually have to say goodbye. And if Elway can't get this offense fix, and if he can't do that within two years, then you may have to move on from John Elway because he's not been able to find a quarterback since pay demanding. And that's a big time problem so Fangio he's also older too. I don't think the leash that long. I don't and Brian forest, and you never know what the dolphins you never know. Stephen Ross you don't he's thirty seven. He just got the job you'd think that's more of a. Three to four year type of deal like gays, and you gotta be winning and fixing the relationships with pliers and being a good spot there. So when I look at all these jobs going in. I thought the three best jobs where the jets the Browns and the Packers. None of those hires really jump off the page where you go. Wow. They hit a home run doesn't mean it can't be home runs. But that's just the trends that you're seeing. Now, you're not seeing these real big household names. Get these jobs and a lot of them. Now is question marks like question. Mark could be great. Kingsbury question. Mark Taylor question-mark. Freddie kitchens question, Mark, even the fence about Brian force. That's a question, Mark. And eventually time will tell how they do pan out. And then we'll make our evaluations, and we'll see one they do get out. Stay two calls before the break. Let's go to Scott in Maine, Scott what you got for me. Lifelock. Ronco fan out in Portland. Maine long story short. I'm gonna try to keep a shortest possible. Last year. Up until about the last three games of the year. Denver could have been a playoff team. They lost by three loss to the Texans. Hot in the middle of the year. And then they just had a lot of disappointments. Well, actually, no, I take it back. If you look at their record in the in the first like six or seven games other than the I mean, they're still losses. Other than the Baltimore. Jeff games. They were they were good all the way up state loss games. I mean losses a loss of loss games. The chargers. I think with the chiefs by seven or less. So they were there. It was those last week games of the year. The Texans games that was a coaching loss. What's his name while blanket my head coach right now. Joseph was over his head. There was a lot of coaching mistakes. At the end of the day away. This is this is it if Fangio cannot get it. Right. Elway's gone. They overpaid or case keenum's. Yeah. But that's a contract. It doesn't kill you. It's a two year deal. So case keenum started good quarterback. But had with the Broncos people got caught their attention. They got they got off to a bad start with the record that after the bye week. They won the three games in a row. People started buy them with them. And then their coach didn't do a good job. And the team didn't do a good job. But for me, you know, Vic Fangio, hey, a lot of respect in Chicago. And you know, you hear all great things a little bit older. You know, that's good. The pressure's not I'm Vic Fangio for me. Now, his job may not last long because of the guy that the pressure is on. And that's John Elway. And always gotta get it. Right. You gotta get a quarterback. I can't give you a pass anymore. You been you've been an embarrassment trying to find a quarterback ever since manning. He's got to get back. And that's the surprising thing. He didn't take any of the pressure off of him. He could hide it all fence of minds and say it's up to the offensive minded coach to get it. Right. He went with the defensive minded coach. Absolutely. But if they hire month check, I'm not gonna say that the great higher for an offensive coordinator. But that will definitely improve the offensive line, which has been a problem firm. I don't know four or five years once again doesn't improve the quarterback. And that's the big problem with Denver. Johnny in Dallas. Go ahead. Johnny. I was calling about the best nine higher in the league. I'm a lifetime. Cowboys fan very excited about him Saturday. I'm glad we still have Christopher Shaw. Going..

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"kingsbury taylor" Discussed on News & Talk 1380 WAOK

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"kingsbury taylor" Discussed on News & Talk 1380 WAOK

"A great job here with us for the next four hours coming up at five AM eastern, two AM Pacific. We will. Head out to Kansas City. It is the site of colts at the chiefs, and what is very snowy Kansas City, and we'll talk to NBC's vary. Mike to Rico. He will join us the football night in America studio host. He's on location. He'll chat with us about KC while so get update on the other games this weekend. The other three that do feature the Rams and the Cowboys in LA you have the pats in the chargers and Foxborough game that I'll be going to on Sunday. And then we will wrap things up, and we will know them what our conference championship weekend will be after the final game on Sunday at four forty pm eastern as the Philadelphia Eagles go back to New Orleans, and when they go back to New Orleans, they're going gonna try not to get beat forty eight seven like they did. And we eleven bit different of an eagles team. But we know that the thought in New Orleans is that they're going to be going to the Super Bowl this year. And we'll see how they do fair in the divisional round coming off. By and also not playing a bunch of their guys in week seventeen up against the Carolina Panthers. So gets all the playoffs stuff. We'll do picks do onsides offsides. We'll get into Antonio Brown. But throughout most of the season last, two months, we spent a lot of time speculating on who is getting fired who was going to stay in the National Football League and last week show and the week before that we knew who was here and who's staying and who's on the hot seat honoring this upcoming season, and who was shown the door and given the pink slip and said, hey, we're moving on we're going to different direction. So this past week all these jobs have been filled either officially or reportedly you have the Miami job that is still technically open. But the reports do say that it's going to go to Brian floor. So well, let's just attack all these jobs as you really break it down into sections as you have three hires that were made with connection to Sean McVay, then you have to hires. That were a little bit older some popular some not popular then you have to other hires one defensive-minded in Vic Fangio going to the Broncos another Bruce Arians both guys that are in their sixties. And then you have the defensive mind Brian Flores who is younger going to Miami. So what's attack it with the trend that we see in the National Football League? Now is where you go young innovative offensive minded coach that has the connection to Sean McVay because all three of these coaches that were hired. They all have that connection to Sean McVeigh, and Sean McVeigh has been great. He's been sensational in his first two years last year a really good season a disappointing ending losing in the playoffs. And hey, there is some pressure on Sean McVeigh not that he's coaching for his job because we know he's one of the most respected coaches in the league right now. Now. But you don't want that stigma to develop if coming up later today, you lose in the first two years you have to good teams. And you can't find a way to get a playoff would. Now, he's thirty two years old. He's been remarkable. He's been great. But because of the fact that he was able to go into LA save Jared Goff fix the Rams franchise. That was just under you know, in a terrible spot with Jeff Fisher. And he was quickly able to go in there and change the culture and bring them to a certain standard. You know it. I know it when team see that. And they see the way the game is played now where a lot of it is in most of the regular season is offense offense offense and all the rules to cater towards enhancing the offensive production. Well, teams are going to try to copy you and not every coach is going to go for the young innovative offensive mind. We've seen older hires baby seen defensive minded guys. Get. Get hired. But. And most of these hires they're going offense, and they're going on the younger side and a lot of times. It's guys with not a whole lot of experience in terms of previous head coaching experience or not even being coordinated for that many years. So when we take a look at the first stop we're gonna go to Green Bay, and that's Matt leflore who he now gets the task of trying to save Aaron Rodgers at thirty five years old and get him back in the postseason after the marriage of Mike McCarthy lasted a long time. But then did grow stale McCarthy's not going to get a job this year because they're already all filled and he was interested in the jets and the jets elected not to hire. But with Matt before he was an offensive coordinator with the Ran's last year and then with Tennessee in two thousand eighteen. Now, he has that connection with McVeigh. He also worked with Schottenheimer when he was a QB coach. When he was with the Washington Redskins. So he has that connection. And that is what one of those hires that it's looked at Shannon, not Schottenheimer, such Sharon I mentioned, but with with the floor. He has that connection with Sean McVeigh. Now is this my first choice of someone that was going to walk in and team up with down Rogers? No was it. It wasn't my first choice, and to be honest. I didn't expect it to be this big name. You heard rumors of some big names. They weren't going to bring in a big name because I didn't think of big name was going to go there because how much of a coach are you really are Aaron Rodgers is your quarterback, and you had a Super Bowl winning coach there, and he was eventually shown the door since he was there since two thousand and six and then the marriage grew stale. So now the four comes in. He's thirty nine. And he's quickly did rise through the ranks. It wasn't that long ago. He was the quarterbacks coach at Notre Dame in two thousand fourteen so he's quickly made us ascend to the top before even reaching the age of forty now. Can he be the right guy to get Aaron Rodgers back on the right path and not only that? Ten Aaron Rodgers show him respect. And that's what it's gonna come down to. Will Rogers respect leflore when leflore challenges Rogers and gives them maybe something that Rogers is an on board with. So I don't love that higher. I don't hate that higher. But it follows that trend of young innovative offensive line. Then you go out to Arizona. And here's the one where there's a lot of controversy. How do you bring in a college football coach who's under five hundred and everyone's been saying it, but it fits that trend once again young innovative offensive mine and Arizona had defensive onto coach in their last. Arizona did not have patience with that. Coach Steve Wilks only lasted one year. And now they had to go for a higher and a job. That's not really popular. A million people lining up to get interviewed by the cardinals. And you don't feel a lot of guys that experience. Now, getting interviews or guys that have been fired in the past because they're all looking for these young bright new fresh minds, and that is what cooking? Well, quit Kingsbury is whether you like them or not he's young. He's a good offensive mine, and he does bring new life to Arizona. But when you bring in someone that's not a popular higher. And when you bring in someone that has a lot of question marks because of his past in college. Well, number one, how is this game going to translate to the NFL? And the number to Kenny survive if they don't turn it around quickly. If he has a disaster first year, and then a second year, are you going to be able to keep him? But I found their press release actually thought this was fake at first, but it ended up being true and their original press. Release the cardinal said Kingsbury is friends with rand coach Sean McVay, the thirty two year old offensive genius. Who became the blueprint of many of the new coaching around the NFL eventually pulled that. But that's how these hires are. Did you ever shake hands or Sean McVay you ever worked with Sean McVay ever coffee was Sean McVay, and boom you get a job? So Kingsbury new coach, and he's going to be someone that I think could mesh well with Josh Rosen. But how is that going to translate throughout the rest of the team? Bengals Zack Taylor thirty five years old. Hey, Mike Brown. I don't trust them at all. They go with someone that is that's thirty five. And this is another one that a lot of people may not have known whose activity was a few weeks ago, and he was quarterback coach in Los Angeles. Was the offensive coordinator at Cincinnati Bengals. The the Cincinnati Bearcats is the office coordinator and quarterback coach. And now the next thing, you know, at thirty five he is. The new head coach of the Bengals and the Bengals will give him patients because they just want to Marvin Lewis for sixteen years. So Zack Taylor had man with the Cincinnati Bengals. And that's another one that fits the McVeigh brand. Then you get to the jets and the Browns Adam gates with the jets. This one's got a lot of negative reaction in New York. A lot of negative reaction. Now, he needs to change the way that he deals with his players and that approach you can't be traded away guys. Like Jarvis Landry. Jay Ajayi all the time. But this is not the worst higher that there is it's not and against when he was first brought into the league coach for ten fifteen years. And now jet fans don't want him. I get it. You wanted McCarthy? He didn't get Mike McCarthy for whatever the reasons why ownership didn't wanna bring in Mike McCarthy didn't wanna hire him. They interviewed him. They didn't want higher, but I had engaged as the guy. And Adam gates is someone that is going to be able to mesh well with Sam darnold, but for me with the jets, it's not necessarily. So I don't know coaching is so important the NFL. But for me, it's more about this general manager, Ken Mike mcalinden, not screw this up with the third overall pick in the draft. And then also you have one hundred billion dollars in capita spent. So if you could give Adam gates the right pieces, I think he could win in this league. The dolphins were not good situation. He took him to the plastic first year and he never had his quarterback and Ryan tannehill for the other year. So when I look at the jets, I don't think it's as awful as it's being perceived in New York without and guess, I'm not saying the jump up and down and love it because I don't love it either. But a lot of these jobs. You don't have these big names getting hired the Browns higher. Freddie kitchens. Have we all thought that they were going to maybe stay with someone on that staff, and it going to be Greg Williams ends up being, Freddie kitchens? I know Bruce Arians. Has a lot of respect for him. I actually thought of all the names of all these jobs that were going to be available at that the Browns get big day because that Brown's job is very attractive. What they've been able to do Dorsey and company at Baker Mayfield, and you go, Freddie catches up. Baker Mayfield loves it. I don't hate that higher. But I would have thought it would have been a bigger name. Now, let's get to the two older guys. Bruce Arians told us on the show. He was gonna take the Browns job as coach anywhere else has relationship with the general manager he ends up going to the box. We know Bruce Arians is good coach. We know he's a multiple time coach of the year winner. But I don't love this fit. I don't now we know areas who coach coaches, bud off. But when you valuate this, and when you look at this. I don't think the bucks are a good team. And you have a coach who sixty six you're better. Hope. Jameis Winston gets his act together because there'd be then you have to go through a rebuild. And do you want to go through and Bruce Arians is going to go through a rebuild and that division? Tough. So if I was Bruce, I would've just stayed retired the Broncos Vic Fangio older and his sixties defensive line. Coach did a great job with the Chicago Bears. But Elway doesn't go offense. He goes defense, which is okay. But now it's up to John Elway to fix the offense. Finally, get a quarterback and judging by John Elway track record. Yes, he won a Super Bowl as an executive. But he hasn't been able to find a quarterback since pay demanding. So he goes defense once again kubiak knocking to return. So now is L we going to get the offense. Right. I don't think. So. So that defense will be good in Denver. But the offense isn't going to be good. And that's the biggest problem with the Broncos. Is that Elway can't find the quarterback? And then you get the dolphins O'Brien floors. Hey, this was a surprising to me. I didn't think he was going to be a head coach yet. I thought he could potentially be one. But with Brian fours. He's he's respected. He's good energy. But these Bellichik assistance have not done a good job. So with Brian four as you have to be your own person. You can't try to be ballot. Check before you would. And Matt Patricia is learning that the hard way with the Detroit Lions. So when you look at all these hires a floor Kingsbury exact Taylor kitchens aeriens, Fangio and fours, which one do you like the most? And which one question the most and dislike. But here's the thing for me. I don't think you have to hire an offensive minded coach right now, but that's the trend and the National Football League. So when you see guys that are thirty five thirty nine that. Don't have. A ton of experience or quickly even the guys that have experience they've quickly risen through the ranks. Are you gonna have the patience? That's what I wonder because you look last year. There's guys that one year two years, and boom they're out of a job some guys three years, and that's a lot. So we'll these teams have the patience, and then you get some of these other names, even gazing kitchens. Both a little bit older. But will those two teams have the patience because in some of these jobs like before Kingsbury, Taylor and kitchens? There's going to be some rookie mistakes. Will you let that coach see through not only the rookie mistakes. But then not have such a. Quick acts to throw thrown to the walls that in your number two. When maybe you're number one doesn't go. So well, so that's something that I wonder when you see such young guys being hired because everyone's going to be Sean McVeigh, you got to hire young guys. They're going to have some tough times. So eight five five two one two four CBS eight five five two two forty two twenty seven out of all these coaching hires. What's the one that you liked the most? And what's the one that really upsets you have some dislike for we'll.

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