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"Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown. Joining me is my banter, buddy on the business, Matt Belloni and Matt. We knew this day could come now Japan has declared a state of emergency and for the Tokyo Olympics, That means there will be virtually no Spectators on Olympic events. They have pressed ahead with his Olympics. We've talked about this before, despite many people questioning even the morality of doing it when Japan has such a low vaccination rate and quite a high, uh, senior population, So now it has come to pass for Peacock, which has been waiting that the Comcast nbcuniversal streaming service. They've been waiting and waiting for this they were supposed to launch with this last year that got canceled. Now this is I think a very tough look and a potential ratings crusher because we've seen that with sports before and for pickup. That's just bad. Yeah, I mean, it takes the air out of the balloon, so to speak for these Olympics because we're going to be watching competitions just like we watched Pandemic era NBA games a year ago, and it's just not the same, and the ratings reflected that people were tuning out. Of even the NBA finals when there weren't fans in attendance, and I think it's going to be a similar situation for Peacock and NBC and their big implications for that, if the ratings don't deliver, and NBC has sold well over a billion dollars worth of advertising for this Olympics, and you know, the IOC has sold off these television rights for huge amounts of money. And there's a lot of money to be lost if the audience doesn't show up. Yeah, it's I don't see how it's a good thing. And Peacock has had a rough launch. You know, they don't have the shimmering IPI, the intellectual property of Disney, which which sort of roared out of the gate. They have had low numbers. Three million paying subscribers. Disney did better than that, according to Bloomberg in his first day, uh, So they're trying things to make it work. Uh, I don't think it's easy. No, And there are some caveats to that. I mean, Peacock is an ad supported streaming service as well. So they have multiple revenue streams. Unlike Disney, Plus, which is subscription only, and you know, Yes, it's early. They expected the Olympics to happen last summer, and they expected to get that initial boost for Peacock right out of the gate. It didn't happen. They were delayed and now it's coming a year later and who knows what the boost is going to be? They have done some smart things by putting big competitions like gymnastics and swimming on Peacock, so there will be plugging it relentlessly during all of their coverage, So they're hoping that that is going to be a lure. But I think that this next earnings call after the Olympics, it's going to be a very, very tense moment when they announced that subscriber number. Yeah, you know, and NBC uni I will know. You know they have wanted to launch Peacock, and it's essential. Everybody's supposed to get into the streaming business, and it's supposed to be the most important thing. They are doing more to keep the legacy movie business going. They are the ones after being seen as very aggressive that have agreed to a theatrical window. It's shorter and actually, they're just restructuring windows in a way that they hope will bolster Peacock. But at the same time, they're going to protect movies, I think, and that's something I think A lot of people in Hollywood are hoping will work. Yeah, they just going to deal with Amazon. The Universal movies used to go to HBO and will continue to for the rest of this year but starting in 2022 for form. Months. They're going to go to Peacock instead of HBO, And then after that, they're going to go to Amazon for an additional 10 months. So Nbcu is kind of splitting the baby here where they're keeping the revenue that comes along with licensing out their movies to a streamer like Amazon Prime, But they're also emphasizing Peacock by putting them first on that service for that first four months when everybody really wants to see the movie that's available at home for the first time. So they're trying to have it both ways in the sense that they are licensing out and getting that revenue which is significant from Amazon Prime, But they're also putting it first for four months on Peacock where people who want to see movies at home for the first time they have played in theaters will hopefully rush out and subscribe to peacock to get it. Yeah, For now, we're protecting an exclusive theatrical window. We'll see how long that last. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. That's Matt Belloni, a founding partner of a new media outlet. He joins me this Monday at 1 30 on the business. I'm Kim Masters, and this is the Hollywood breakdown. And you hear the Hollywood breakdown on KCRW KCRW? Thanks. The L A Phil presenting.
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW
"And I'm Kim Masters were talking to film A Kir Royale will pick a about his new HBO series Exterminate All the brutes. The four part documentary explores white supremacy and genocide. Tech narrates the Syriza and uses a blend of our chi pool footage and, um, a Shin's home movies and live action sequences featuring Josh Hartnett as a kind of every man racist murderer who participates in a tow. Rosset ease over the course of centuries. Did not want to spill seminal blood. Feel seminal Children. Seminal women. U. S backed the American property you stole from our good fellow men plant is this settlers? And I let you move to the engine tear it tore the U. S government is provided for your people. Hartnett's character is often just following orders, but he doesn't hesitate to kill for Peck Casting. This key part in this serious began as a process of elimination. You know, there are the usual suspects. You know, there are actors who plays the bad guys. I knew from the start. That's it, not what I wanted. I needed some buddy who was clearly American. The perfect American Genuine white man. And you don't think of Josh has being in a bad guy. Right. On the contrary, you write a fake of him as the good guy. And it was important that at all times during the whole for episode that we see him as a yuman being and not just as a crazy bastard. And and the choice of judge was off course important in that, And that's also a conversation. That was easier for me to have with judge Who are you for more than 20 years. Now that we have actor that I who I didn't know Josh is also a very political person. That's a new. Fortunately what most Hollywood sometimes don't know. You know, they just see the star, but he's somebody who is in valves. So he was just aren't the world who traveled. There is the good reason why he left for the wood at some point, you know? So I knew who I I was dealing with and who I could ask that. Yes, and and that could not be any cheating in it. You know, he had to be sincerely full force into the rule. Other actors would have played perfectly. But from the No shin that I am playing a bad guy, So I am better than this bad guy than I didn't want. And I noticed the long clip in your film from old movies. No, especially the on the town. I really loved.
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW
"All things considered. I'm Kim Masters and today on the business, the documentary Crypt Camp tells the story of Camp Jeanette and upstate New York Hippie summer camp that was a haven for disabled teenagers in the early 19 seventies. Many of Jeanette's former campers met up years later in the Bay Area and became activists holding protests sit ins and fighting for legislation, including the landmark Americans with Disabilities Act really at the time, I think the disability community didn't get the recognition that they deserved for for having Thought for the civil rights law that benefits everybody. I mean, everybody. Whoever uses pushes a baby stroller of the curb ramps you know, can can thank them, you know, and bad knees. I'm definitely exactly we just came from true false Where somebody at the end of the screening, said I just have one question. Why stairs why we revisit our conversation with directors Nicole Newman and Jim Lebrecht on there. Now. Oscar nominated documentary Grip Camp Today at 1 30 on KCRW. The business support comes from UCSB Arts and lectures Presenting Spring House calls a new suite of interactive virtual events. Highlights include a conversation with primatologist Jane Goodall, Health psychologist Kelly McGonigal on the Joy of movement. Interactive dance from New York. Be Girl, eh, Fred Ashley. Classical music Treasures Yo Yo, Ma and Katherine Start with songs of comfort and Hope and more tickets at arts and lectures done use. Yes be dot e. D u US vaccinations at a record rate. But what does unequal access mean for a global pandemic also 100 Biden on finding kindness where he didn't expect from the woman who brought him drugs? What Rhea showed me is in enormous amount of compassion in a world in which there's very little more on his journey through that world Saturday and weekend edition. From NPR News Tune into weekend edition Weekend mornings at six Right here on come. NPR news. This is all things considered. I'm Audie Cornish and I'm Ari Shapiro. News organizations are doing stories every day about state ballot measures targeting transgender young people. There are dozens of such.
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW
"Include Netflix, presenting the trial of the Chicago Seven from Aaron Sorkin, based on the true story of the 1968 protest organizers who were charged with conspiracy to inside A riot and the trial that followed now streaming on Netflix. This's the business and I'm Kim Masters. Have you been briefed by the CDC? By the words about a pandemic at this point, we're not at all and where we have it totally under control. One person coming in from China. And we have it under control. It's going to be just fine. This clip from a CNBC interview with Donald Trump in January gave Director Alex Give me the title of his new documentary. Totally under control. Of course, things were hardly under control. Give these film tracks the administration's bungled response to the pandemic, which sadly rages on. Give me and his two co directors did much of the work on the project in secret. Some was shot in person and some remotely using a special rig for those who weren't comfortable having filmmakers enter their space. Jimmy was finishing up his Siri's on Russian election interference earlier this year and by his own admission shouldn't have jumped into totally under control. At what point do you say? I know we're doing this thing called agents of chaos, which is completely chaotic, But let's do this, too, at the same time during a pandemic. Yes, it was insane. Absolutely insane for me to even consider it. Um, but suddenly we're in the midst of a pandemic. I'm doing all my editing remotely, you know, on agents of chaos. I had no business doing it. But you know, I I lost a friend to tea Cove. It another friend of mine was on a ventilator for two weeks and I was I was just Gob smacked by the completely incompetent of federal response to the pandemic, and I just thought something needs to be done. Something needs to be said that will Reckon with this and reckon with this on a really accelerated schedule, which was which was sensible in terms of public discourse, but completely insane in terms of my own schedule, so I reached out 22 colleagues, Ophelia Cartoonion, who had produced AH, film of mine called Crazy, Not Insane, which is yet to come out and also been, You know she speaks Russian, and she had been on board as an associate producer on Citizen K and Suzanne Hillinger, who hadn't worked with before. But I knew and she had also some hard news experience. In addition to feature Doc Experience, so I felt that together The three of us could produce and direct it together that that might give the film a shot of being properly completed. And so that's what we did. It was absolutely crazy of me to take it on, but but I felt necessary. How did you go about getting it financed? I want The first thing that I did was to find the distributor because I thought if I find a distributor who's willing to put it out, then I can, you know, execute my plan. So I went to my friend Tom Quinn it neon and said, if we could make this film in time and do a rigorous investigation into the early days of the federal response, will you put it out in early October? And he said yes. No, We didn't say how much will that cost? Well, he didn't end up paying. So you know what? He was the distributor, which allowed me to say to investors. If if you build it, he will come or something like that. In other words, we have distribution mechanism. So if you invest in this, you know it's going to be on. You know, it's going to be on a time. It's going to make an impact. Will you come on board? And a number of investors came on board at that point, including Jeffrey Laurie, who's one of the executive producers. He's the owner of the Philadelphia Eagles. The participant came on board a colleague named Mike and Bared. Another gentleman named Mark Lampert. You know, they all had companies that do invest in projects like this, and it came on board and God bless them. They came on board on the basis of a very slender, pricey oven idea, but just a sense. We're going to dig in, and Andre, We're goingto have it out in time for people to reckon with it Before the election. You devised a rig so you could interview people in either in person with like a shower curtain. They're your camera people were behind and the producers I guess or co directors. And then you had another remote version we did we had to Riggs, depending on the comfort level of the interview subject, and one was called the Covert Cam, which was invented by We could call it the Ben camp who was invented by Ben Blood. Well, it was basically a tray with a handle on which was mounted the computer DSLR and a microphone. On what would happen is we'd send it to the city where you know the interview subject Wass. We get a local A C T get it and bring it to the front porch of the interview subject connect to their Internet. Then we would turn on the device and on then that he would leave sort of sit in a car nearby by a CEO mean the camera person and then the subject would come pick it up. And from that moment, Ben would have eyes literally on the subject and could operate remotely. We did a number of them that way. Two of them ended up in the film, and then the other way was to kind of set up in an Airbnb near the interview subject and the either Ben or another camera person, and it was always just one person would go in way early. Kind of scrub down the place set up this sort of shower curtain Tark barrier between the subject and the camera on Ly, you know, perforated by a hole for the lens and on top of the lens would be a kind of teleprompter onto which would Beach projected the image of whoever was doing the interview. That's how we did that one and and, and there's also a fun kind of Um, hop on that ball. Because way we use the iPhones to kind of give a sense of what these setups looked like, because we thought it was interesting..
Netflix is Hollywood
"Where are we? We are in Los Angeles. We're about to turn onto sunset. Boulevard Hollywood maybe in Hollywood. Okay, so we're. We're approaching. Hollywood hills. Really Tall Palm Trees. So should we explain why we're? We're driving through sunset radio. There's a bunch of billboards here, right? That's what we're. Getting at. Less Ronnie our producers, etc piled, a newborn, took a drive down Hollywood's main drag. It's a traffic jam packed with billboards promoting new TV shows and movies. I've been covering the business of media for a long time, so I served as tour guide for this trip, but Ronnie is a data reporter who mainly writes about tech companies. She doesn't typically pay a lot of attention to what's going on in Hollywood. Here, we have a a the crown net flicks up on the right. Have you watched any of the crown yet? I have not. On the left we have marriage story billboard. This is a Scarlett Johansson. I don't think I want to watch that. You may not be the right person for streaming roddy in a row. We got the Irishman. That's Scorsese's film and then DOLEMITE is my name. Reading that right. Alfie, these are both movies. They're both movies. You can see on Netflix Sega. Any of these this is this is a worthwhile trip for learning. What's on Netflix? You could just actually go to your browser. Are these like already outer. These are like I don't know. Someone like hermetically sealed raising. A drive down, sunset isn't just a chance for Ronnie to see what's coming on. TV, it's a way to watch Hollywood talking to itself, these billboards are messages which are very much directed at Hollywood except now. netflix's doing most of the talking. Stranger things net flix. The politician. Net flicks, one billboard tuna flexible work three Netflix. Netflix well years ago when Netflix was first getting into its own programming. Executive there told me that because they were tech company. They didn't have to do things that traditional media companies do like renting billboards, so it could show big-name talented netflix serious about Hollywood. That guy turns out was wrong. Netflix has decided loves billboards so much that it went out and bought some for itself, and now the company owns many of the signs on the Strip. This, you still look like before streaming. That's one of the main ideas we keep running across as we're working on the series, it's almost impossible to imagine what the world like before Netflix. Even though that time was just a few years ago. If you didn't know any better, you'd think. Netflix's has always been a huge part of Hollywood. Syphilis can be fatal to your baby free. Check that out not flick show. UNCLEAR UNCLEAR? Welcome the land of the giants. The NETFLIX's effect. I'm Peter Coffee. Today. We're talking about how NETFLIX's. Would outsider that no one took seriously took over the town and change the lives of the people in it. Are the CO founder and CEO of Net flicks. I'm going to conduct this interview netflix style. I'M GONNA. Have like five questions you're GonNa love and five thousand. You've never heard. Today. It's given it. NETFLIX's remade. The media. World to companies becomes so omnipresent in our lives that CEO Reed. Hastings even counts as a sort of celebrity. He's a big enough deal for a guest spot Stephen Colbert. You're like one of the big one of those big new media disruptors. Why did the entertainment industry need to be disrupted? Just for the fun of it. On this happened really quickly. We talked to Kim Masters veteran show business journalist at the Hollywood reporter who said that a decade ago Netflix's was an afterthought for big media companies newcomers from Silicon Valley or anywhere else did not strike fear in the hearts of moguls. There's a thing that happens in Hollywood. Which is the outsiders come in, and they think boy. There's a lot of stupid rules in Hollywood and people sure do dumb stuff, but we're going to be much smarter than these idiots, and then they get kilt. It turns out that Netflix was the exception to the rule. It didn't get killed at one. And NETFLIX's did it with Hollywood's help. You can trace all this back to two thousand eight, which is when Netflix's really broken into streaming by getting his hands on a bunch of blockbuster movies for a bargain, Ben, price, it had made a deal with stars premium cable channel. Let netflix's stream always rate movies from Sony and Disney so stars had created the service called Vong which nobody listening to this podcast is GonNa Remember, but there was a service before Netflix's. That was streaming. Streaming movies called. Longo Van Gogh was losing seventy million dollars a year. Rich Greenfield is an analyst with light shed partners. He's been following digital media closely for years, and in walks, Reed Hastings in Ted Sandoz and says hey will take that streaming content. You could sub-licensed to us and we'll pay you. Tens of millions of dollars Netflix's use it as the base to build their streaming service, versus what was historically just a DVD service. And the rest is they say is history.
Nick Cannon out at Viacom, keeps deal with Fox
"I'm Kim, masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as my usual banter buddy on the business, Matt Bellamy and Matt this is very unfortunate situation that has developed There's a sort of a back and forth in the black media world, their business antisemitic incidents most recently I think is nick. Cannon was on a podcast, endorsed some clearly antisemitic views about Jews controlling the media, and whatever the these are old tropes. I have to say to her credit. jemele hill weighed in saying this kind of talk is unacceptable as did Kareem abdul-jabbar and a column in the Hollywood reporter, but this nick cannon incident he led to him, being fired by Viacom CBS a, he initially clapped back, and said you know. The CBS was treating him unfairly, and then seemed to have major change of heart and apologized and said he was gonNA learn, and he was sorry for the hurt he had inflicted, but. What's interesting to me? Is that while he fired? He had this show on vh. One called wild and out and other things going on CBS. He also is the host of the mass singer on Fox and you know. How surprised are you that Fox said that apology is completely acceptable. We're hanging with you on the mass singer. Yeah, I mean this really does point to an interesting dichotomy that's emerging especially when you look at a lot of the heightened sensitivity around these issues of hate, speech and inappropriate comments that have really come about over the past six to eight months. Fox seems to be an outlier here and a lot of people have put it in monthly. Yes, a lot of people have pointed to Fox News, which obviously is the home of many incendiary comments? Tucker Carlson was recently forced to go on one of those quote, unquote preplanned Fox News vacations when it was revealed that his lead writer was revealed to be posting anonymously on racist and homophobic and sexist websites. This is always been you know. The Fox News is separate from Fox Broadcasting Corporation which is run out of La. It's all owned by the Murdoch's, but Fox's always positioned itself as we have the LA operation. And then we have this Fox News thing, but here you have. Have a very specific incident on a Fox show with the host of not just a Fox show the most popular show on Fox and the Murdoch seemed to be okay with it. It sends a message that this isn't just Fox News separate from the La Company. This is all one company in the Murdoch's seemed to be endorsing a very tolerant. Shall we say view of this kind of speech? Yeah, the MURDOCHS ARE GONNA Murdoch. You know they they run the company. It's theirs and. Walk is possibly even more conservative than his father Rupert I'm not saying that a person can't apologize. Learn but I think when you make comments like this that nick cannon made. You. You don't just return with no without missing a beat. It's like okay, thanks. That's great. That just feels to me like it needs a little bit more of a pause. And why don't you go away for a little while and seek the truth and come back when you you feel that you know there's been a an interval I. Don't know if you reversed the situation and he were white host. Making these kinds of comments about say black people. That host would still have a job. That's an interesting question I. Don't know, but what is also interesting is just the state of the. The Fox company now because until last year Fox owned a movie Studio Television Studio a lot of businesses that have traditionally more liberal and more creative types in them. Now they've gotten rid of all that stuff to Disney and the Fox company is Basically Fox, news sports and the Fox Broadcasting Company, and it really has allowed them to be insulated from what's going on in the rest of media, which has been very attuned to these issues and very intolerant of this kind of hate speech. Fox's now kind of sewing its own path. Yes, now it's a little more obvious. Thank you, Matt! Belen former editorial director of the Hollywood. Reporter joins me this Monday at one thirty on the business. I'm Kim Masters, and this is the Hollywood
NBC's free streaming service Peacock hopes to cut through subscription fatigue
"Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Matt Melanie and Matt Peacock, which is the streaming offering from NBC? Universal and comcast is coming online next week. You know people made fun of Peacock in the industry. People were like Oh. Peacock is so late and peacock is so behind, and peacock is going to be free and Haha that's funny and I have to. To I'M GONNA treat myself not for one minute that I think that was funny. I thought that is sensible logical, and it will be a standout in this crowded field, and I kind of feel like I'm right now a lot of people. I think also were thinking that I was right. We'll see, but there is definitely what what comcast calls subscription, fatigue and I agree. Agree there is a feeling in the consumer world that there's all these subscription television services that are pitching themselves as Netflix's alternatives or or Netflix's for X., or you know you gotta get this upgrade to HBO and get HBO. Max and they all cost money. And if you look at the advertising associated with peacock there hammering home, the fact that this is free, if you. You want a free alternative to those other guys. This is for you and there's some pretty good stuff. I mean there's thirty rock. There's law and order. There's movies from NBC Universal You. Know they've got decent stuff on there. And they're looking for that casual TV viewer, who is migrating away from the cable universe, cutting the cord and looking for something they can kind of. And they don't necessarily need the latest greatest game of thrones that that. The premium subscribers looking for I wouldn't use game of thrones, because that they would need but other things they don't necessarily need, and they don't want to find it and I know people in the industry. For example, it still haven't figured out how to get HBO Max and it all just feels confusing, and and they can't deal with it and so this thing that being free and And the casual viewer that's definitely does appeal to me. You know if I had a long day. I WanNa, Watch something short easy, familiar and free, but you can also pay if if you don't have comcast us as your cable provider, or if you don't have a an access to it that way, you can pay five dollars a month and if you wanted to be ad, free? Free you can pay ten dollars a month and I will note that both of those prices are cheaper than an HBO subscription. So that is an option that I. Think is the people will want to look at meanwhile. Disney plus dropped Hamilton. They've needed something. They haven't had anything that really appeals to older people, or you know not not little kids for a long time they had a huge jump in people downloading their APP over that Hamilton weekend. Whether Hamilton really helps Disney right now remains to be seen, but I think the buzz around. It can't hurt no definitely not, and that's why they moved up the theatrical release, which was not supposed to be till twenty twenty one and put it on the service over the July fourth weekend they. They need a positive narrative right now Disney. Because this next earnings, call is going to be brutal. They have zero revenue from the theme. Parks Pin is just in free fall without sports. They have no movies in theaters because there aren't any theatres they need something. And now they have these Hamilton numbers that they'll be able to reveal and I've seen a lot of people speculating about. About. How Big Hamilton is going to be on Disney pleasant? How many people are just going to subscribe for that? I think those numbers are going to be big but I think there are a little bit skewed in the discussion by the fact, that Hamilton is a media phenomenon and everybody on social media in the media world to talk about it. Ad Nauseam so I'm not sure. Sure exactly how big it's going to be. I think you may disagree with me a little bit on that I just feel like you know reminds me of Hbo had things like the Sopranos and everybody was talking about it and you say well. It's in a bubble, and it's the media, elites, or whatever, but the truth is that seeps out in gives the gives the product A. A bit of a sheen a feeling that you kind of made me want to be a part of that and want to watch what they have. The the issue is coming. Follow it up with anything and I don't know we'll see. Thank you matt. Thank
Academy postpones 2021 Oscars, will announce new diversity rules
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown Twenty Years Matt Bellamy my usual Banter Buddy on the business and Matt the Ninety Third Academy Awards ceremony has been pushed from February twenty eighth to April twenty fifth for. Obvious reasons. The eligibility period for films which normally would end on December thirty first. It's been extended to February twenty eighth twenty twenty, one. Because of you know. These films have not had opportunity to play or necessarily get the kind of attention. They would normally get. That's the argument now. The Oscars has been pushed before in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, due to La Flooding, and then in sixty eight because of the assassination of Dr Martin Luther King and again in one, thousand, nine, hundred, one, because of the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan so I. Think it's fair to conclude that. When they pushed the Oscar ceremony something very very bad is happening as it is now, but this was necessary. However, if you're ABC, just from a business point of view, this is bad news. Also yeah I mean there's A. A couple ramifications here one is for ABC I mean this is their super bowl. They count on a ton of AD revenues about hundred forty hundred fifty million dollars in ad revenue last year that they can usually count on in February that is now pushed out of q one into cue to if the Oscars take place as planned which are that's a big question mark. Will we have big scale events with celebrities walking a red carpet even in April of next year? We don't know the second is the impact on the film released calendar because. Because assuming at some point that movies do comeback and we start to get movies released in theaters again these big year end movies that everybody sees every year and you know come out around Christmas time and get a lot of the awards attention and go on to win Oscars that window is now going to shift into the January February march window, which is going to change a lot of strategies for these film companies because you don't now have to crowd. You're movie into that year end corridor in order to make an impact with Oscar voters. Voters, you can give it a little bit more time and that February. March time period is usually a dumping ground where you don't put your best movies now. Maybe you're going to put your best movies there because you know, you can get Oscar attention as well as some box office. Yeah, and what's really still very unclear win theaters will open theaters, clinging to to July, as is as our Warner Brothers with Christopher Nolan's ten and a couple of Disney with Milan they push tenant two weeks i. don't really get how that solves anything but. It makes us so they're not I now Milan will be I will be the Guinea pig, so to speak and then Warner. Brothers we'll have tended after that, so they won't be the Guinea Pig the other thing that is. Speaking of Guinea Pigs. The academy is going to try to do require going forward diversity as a criterion for eligibility for Oscar and they haven't specified what that means I I would certainly not argue with the goal Hollywood has been very very stuck for a very long time in terms of diversity goals, but you know it's something where they have to be very careful. You can't just mandate something like that without really choosing how it works, you know and and again. I want to stress how I totally support that goal, but you're sort of a strange territory telling creative people you must do X. and we don't know what xs yet, but you know. This is something where I think. There's a swimming Zaidi that it will end up being like the most popular picture category that ultimately just sort of went away. This should work, but the question is how yeah! It's a big question because you know for years and years, the academy has always said that the diversity problem is not the academy's problem. It is Hollywood's problem, and it's just at the Oscars are reflection of what the industry is doing, so you shouldn't blame the academy for the diversity problems of Hollywood. This is a flip of that. They're saying we are taking this on. On as an organization and saying that you will not be able to be eligible for an Oscar unless you adhere to some basic diversity principles, and they have yet to articulate what those are, so they just WanNa. See what the logistics are going to
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW
"Kim masters and this is the business as protests continue across the country and around the world we talk about a topic very much under discussion right now the way policing is depicted on television dream Hampton the executive producer of surviving R. Kelly has spent years thinking about that and worked on a recent report on the issue it found that often even good cops are shown trampling the rules and that's presented as hero isn't but when that kind of policing happens in real life the consequences can be tragic Brianna Taylor was just killed the police barged into her apartment guns drawn after midnight with a no knock warrants this is a story line we have seen in a show like twenty four all of the time then down to first give me a podcast devoted to the reality show cops what he found was disturbing to Persky also looked at the show spiritual successor of life PD last year that shows cameras rolled as officers patrolled in Williamson County Texas the man didn't dim his headlights they chase him they tease him they kill him and it's all films by television show where they choosing that man at one thirty in the morning because it was good policing or were they chasing it because it was good television now with cops canceled we talk again with diversity but first on the news banter can Hollywood rise to this moment stick around for business from KCRW I am joined by my colleague and banter Matt Bellamy hello Matt hi there so Matt this week of the show we you know we are talking about the way cops are portrayed on TV and this is part of a broader discussion in Hollywood about race and racism Hollywood has to think of itself and be seen as liberal but take a closer look and what we see is first of all just dealing with this issue of cops you know the schedules that are packed with cop shows depicting cops as heroes and we see all sorts of programming out there that has been sort of mindlessly sent into the world we thought H. B. O. Max this week poll gone with the wind and gone with the wind you know it's been controversial for years it's really I would say propaganda glamorizing the old south and it's a complicated issue people have a lot of ideas and opinions about gone with the wind but ultimately it's the defense of the old south which is built on slavery so it will be back with some context HBO Max tells us you know and it wasn't I don't think it was that gracefully handled they pulled it first and then and said it would be back later and people got up the arms but the point is this is part of a much broader examination of what Hollywood has been putting out there who runs Hollywood and why this has been not really thought about for a long time despite the fact that the most recent protests are hardly the first another thing complicating this issue is that a lot of this content is really popular if you look at a need the cable network they just cancel their most popular show live PD which is a reality very tame police arresting suspects show and they had recently ordered a hundred and sixty episodes of that show an unheard of number now it's gone cops gone if you look at the broadcast networks which mostly are the ones that air these police procedurals the top ten most watched shows of the most recent season a bunch of those our police procedurals NC I S. FBI blue bloods Chicago PD these shows are popular and then of course talking about gone with the wind adjusted for inflation gone with the wind is the highest grossing film of all time yes and these shows are predominately produced by white men bought by network executives who are predominantly white men so this is a problem we talk about life PD with our guests today down to per ski helmet cops podcast it had not been canceled when we talk to him but it is now and one of the central issues as we talk about in this interview is this episode in Austin Texas where they film somebody being apprehended by the cops and actually who died as they shot and it's been very controversial that they now say if they were told that the investigation was resolved and nothing bad had you know happened so therefore they destroyed this footage and the host of that show Dan Abrams said he was really shocked that the show was canceled and that it was meant to be about transparency but as you'll hear you know the question is with these cops are regulars and they have a following and did they need to pursue this guy because the whole issue in that situation Austin was that his brights were on and it ended up in the death of another black man you know and I think maybe all of these protests and all of what we're seeing in the culture right now is causing a shift if you look at the new York times nonfiction bestseller list this week all ten titles are about racism or race consciousness or in a race oriented content so clearly there is something afoot in this country there is change going on and whether it will trickle down to the content that's coming out of Hollywood that is the big question coming forward yeah Hollywood needs to step up I think it's been a very very long time this change if it is in fact coming meanwhile let me pivot to the business of Hollywood which is trying desperately to re open and we see there was a white paper on protocols that was a collaborative effort on the part of most of the guilds and studios and streamers you know everybody trying.
Cops and Live P.D. canceled following protests against police violence
"I'm Kim. Masters and this is the high. Would breakdown joining me is my banter buddy on the Business Matt Bellamy and Matt, the protests that have been going on around the world are really relevant to Hollywood and we see Hollywood. Reacting are trying to figure out how to react to broader concerns about racism and also concerns about the way. Television and movies have contributed to the perpetuation. Of an idea about police, and how they function, this is just filters all kinds of programming, even if it's not a cop show, and it has created a situation where the cops in the public mind get a certain amount of benefit of the doubt as the heros that they are portrayed, even if they break the rules. And, so this now is something we see cops being canceled. We see a live PD, which is hit for an e cops has been on for years and his money maker, but like PD is Annie's number, one show and Anne pulled the plug. Yeah, and they pull the plug after recently ordering one hundred sixty episodes of the show and I think that's really a testament to the soul searching that's going on at a lot of these networks, and if you look at the top ten most watched shows from the past season most viewed you look at blue bloods you look at Ncis you look at Chicago PD. You look at all. All of these police oriented shows that that really do portray these police as flawed, but ultimately heroic, and I think that's what's really going to be the subject of soul-searching, and I wonder if you know beyond the obvious like these verite shows that you can go after right now I wonder if the creatives behind some of these police, procedural shows are really going to reassess how their characters are portrayed. Yeah, I mean most of these shows are run by white men, and there's a certain accepted myth about how things work at is not based in reality, and these shows don't reckon very often with racial injustice and how the Justice System Perpetuates racism. You know it's interesting. My Colleague Lesley Goldberg talked to Warren light who runs law and order Svu and asked him you know how `bout this portrayal, and he's sort of had to say. It was clear that Dick Wolf would ever who, in he has so many shows on TV, and they run in reruns. That Dick Wolf whatever you know. Step away from that portrayal of cups and again this filters through, and it's not just about cops. I mean you just saw Hbo Max pull gone. With the wind because of racist stereotypes, the glorification of the South in the era of slavery. It'll be back. It's not being censored is still available. You can buy a lot of these shows that are being looked at but. It the they're going to bring it back with some context to make it clear that this represents a certain view of the world that is no longer acceptable view of the world and Disney did that when the Disney plus dreamer launched. They realized that some of the Older Walt Disney content was not culturally appropriate anymore, and it's easy to alter things from the past, but what's more interesting to me is when we go from here. Here, and whether these concerns that have come to the forefront today where you see the entire New York Times nonfiction bestseller list devoted to issues of race and injustice. This is clearly permeating the culture right now, and where will Hollywood take it? There's GonNa. Be a lot of scrutiny on the content of these shows going forward. Yeah, I think we're going to need some change in the executive suites, but we'll see going forward. Thank you. Thank
Apple and Paramount to make a deal for Martin Scorseses next movie
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Melanie and Matt. The streaming wars as you know as many people who are listeners know are underway. Hbo Max Coming out onto the field of play this week. A lot of people finding it a little including me a little tricky to figure out how to get that even though as a spectrum customer I should be able to access it but it doesn't show up on my TV. Because I have Roku so it's some people can't find it. Some people like it but we are seeing apple seeming to up its game with some big high profile deals. They are spending money. It's a little reminiscent in some ways of the Netflix strategy. Where we seen them angling for high profile expensive awards movies awards prestige movies apple is now throwing. Its hat into that ring. You know backed by the might the economic might that wealth of Apple. Yeah and this is a big project. Martin Scorsese Film. Sources are saying it's between one seventy five two hundred million dollars depending on who you believe probably will go much higher than that given scores as he's track record. It's got Leonardo DiCaprio. It's called killers of the flower moon. And this is a really really interesting play for Apple. Because you saw Netflix's get a lot of attention for the Irishman last year. Whether it was good or bad you can debate that. But it got them into the Oscar conversation in a meaningful way. They didn't walk away with best picture but they were in the game and apple will likely be in the awards game when this movie eventually comes out. What's interesting here? Is the deal structure. You've done some reporting on that because it was originally paramount. Paramount got cold feet and it ended up at apple after a bidding war. After you know it was shopped around town and this is essentially. What I think is going to happen with a lot of movies. Going forward where they get developed at the studios than the price inches up inches up inches up studios where once upon a time they might have taken a risk on a big movie from a big director are now going to get cold. Feet and income streamers just clarify something about that. Paramount is not out of this game. Scorsese has his deal there and they did release them to shop this around but they own the property the underlying novel and this is a very dark period piece set in Oklahoma in the nineteen twenties. Leo DiCaprio originally was supposed to play a good guy. Paramount was really interested in that version. Then he changed it so that he was playing a kind of a villain character and I am told that paramount felt this is now a less commercial movie with the same budget which point they did say go ahead and shop at around and there was a really long pause and apple did step up but it is still a question of a deal with paramount because it is expected that paramount will at least get some sort of a percentage at pop probably released the film in theaters. Which is what. Scorsese did not get with the Irishman with net flicks so having explained all that. Let me say I would pay money? Actually to see tensor Endo's at Netflix's sit down and explain to me. The cost benefit analysis of having spent which I think was certainly over two hundred billion dollars on the Irishman. Yes they got nominated no they. Didn't you know we? They have all the data. How many people sat through it. Did anybody subscribed because of it. It's a black box for people like us but this is this is something that apple is now saying. We're in it. We're in it in a way that will make Scorsese happy with theatrical release and ironically make paramount happy because paramount will have its name on this movie and we'll probably get a good chunk of some kind of a piece of whatever box office it generates win it can get made because we're all stuck now waiting for protocols and an insurance policies to make filming possible so we will see. I will note. This isn't the only movie they bought. They bought Tom. Hanks's movie Greyhound from Sony for supposedly around seventy million. That movie was done studios will sell as you suggest Matt with movies. That you to bring in cash right now I would say many cases. It is not a great vote of confidence. When you see these deals made in the movie itself but it will be high profile. It is Tom Hanks and for Apple. They obviously decided it was worth
California to announce protocols to resume Hollywood production
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown. Joining me is Matt Bellamy and Matt. Hollywood is just thirsting to get back to work. There are so many tens of thousands of people who work in this industry and are unemployed. And of course you know as a huge ripple effect People are trying to come up with inventive ways to go back into production. Of course the state the state is a key part of this and Gavin. Newsom our governor who has been trying hard to control the the spread of disease from this outbreak did say that as of Monday there will be some protocols in place and he believes that most counties in California unfortunately not La county where word the numbers are still not so good. They're getting better but they're not. They're behind other counties but the great majority of counties will get these protocols and he believes they'll be able to start some kind of production and that's a big deal because I think a lot of people in town figured that the restrictions on production we're GONNA last months and months and if people can start going back to production in the next weeks or so. That's a big deal. I mean we saw Over the past week you reported on a plan that Jason Blum. The horror producer has to house people in a hotel on the universal lot and to carefully go back to production We saw tyler. Perry Georgia released an extensive plan this past week where he is going to personally fly people on his private jet. He's going to quarantine them when they arrive. They'RE GONNA use protocols on the set of his shows that he does and he is going to try to create a enclosed universe for people working on his shows and that may be the new normal for a while. Productions are allowed to proceed. But there's going to be these different protocols of WHO's allowed on said where they're allowed to go when they're not working and increased sanitation protocols. Yeah I mean you do worry a little bit about human nature. I mean this producer in Thailand is actually in production now and people have armbands or wristbands of some kind that you're allowed to stand here. You're allowed to stand there you know. They're big questions looming. Like who is willing to go where I mean tyler. Perry's talking about flying people on private jet. Which is I guess in that respect. It's very good to be something more than one respect. Good to be tyler. Perry but commercial flights You know any kind of sizable crew. That's going to create such an open door for problems. And the Jason Blum production that I wrote about where they want to actually put them in a hotel adjacent to the lot and they don't have approval they say they're not gonNA go forward without approval from authorities and protocols and play. I think they'll have to run it pasta. Sag after all of these things are going to be required but that Zeh have no insurance. So that's a six point five million dollar budget. If that has to shutdown universal will be like well okay but you can't do that on a big production and you can just see the insurance companies. Who are not writing any any policies for covid. Nineteen right now. You know when they do if they do at some point will be scrutinizing for any lapse in following protocols and people. Aren't that great following protocols. No but something has to be done. I mean there was this this past week a call with the governor and some executives and people who are on the recovery taskforce talking about this issue and it's predictions are that there will be a one hundred sixteen billion dollar loss to the entertainment industry over five years and they've got to figure out how to get back to work because there is staggering unemployment in this industry and there is a way back if you take precautions and the insurance industry will come around. They may not be writing policies right now but at some point. This is our new normal until there's a vaccine the insurance industry will catch up and they will figure out how to write policies for these productions slowly and maybe with push from the federal government of some people in Congress. Get THEIR WAY. We'll see
TV advertisers are changing the channel
"I'm Kim Masters and this is Hollywood breakdown joining me as my regular Banter Buddy on the business at felony and Matt normally a lot of reporters would be gathering with a with masses and masses of advertisers in New York. This time of year for the upfront presentations when these advertisers are are given very splashy star studded presentations in places like Carnegie Hall Where CBS does presentation and these they unroll the fall shows and they they and there's huge parties. I mean this is where billions of dollars worth of advertising are are starting to get sold on the basis of the shows. I remember the year back when they played. Abc played the entire pilot for modern family. That's really rare. It's what you do when you think you have something great and you think all the advertisers will want to be a part of it and you can make a lot of money. So of course there's not a prince this year and their virtual. They're doing these things they're trying to do them. In one way or another different networks taking different approaches some of them are having sort of virtual presentations. Some of them are having smaller. Smaller group presentations virtually of course and it augurs badly all of this because advertisers are really fleeing the businesses not there. It's going to really really be devastating for television that is driven by advertising. Yeah I mean this has been analogize by a couple of analysts to the two thousand eight recession and what that did for the print advertising market which is it exacerbated trends that were already afoot and just absolutely accelerated and made them devastating to the print. Business and people think that this might be the case for traditional LINEAR AD driven networks. Where there are you know. They're the trend has been away from these massive commitments but the business has been okay because they've been able to get creative and come up with hybrid ad packages that a lot of advertisers could buy into but this year. I mean there was a Wall Street Journal piece this past week that estimated just in the third quarter between a billion and one point five billion in ad commitments are just going to go away and advertisers are experimenting more and they're seeing more traction on digital platforms and they're using this pandemic to experiment and do do things and will that Ad. Revenue Comeback knows. Yeah they have the ability advertisers in many cases to cancel existing commitments. To get out there trying to I mean they buy these ads well in advance of the TV season and they do have in some cases an chance. They did have a chance to cut back on some of their commitments before may first so things like General Motors pepsi-cola and and Pepsico and cracker barrel and General Mills. Big Huge companies have been trying to take advantage of that cancellation option to varying degrees. And and there was a survey released from something called advertiser perceptions that marketers will plan to spend thirty three percent less this year during the up fronts compared with last year and that is a six point. Six billion dollar decline. If that's right and I'll read you a quote from the one of their executives the upfront strikes at the heart of the uncertainty advertisers are struggling with. They can't commit long term but at the same time you know they do. Advertising isn't going to go permanently away if you're hoping lower to attract customers you got gotta advertise somewhere and TV. I think it's still a big tent broadcast TV. And the ratings have been up for broadcast network. They've been up everywhere during the pandemic. But we're starting to see some softening as these were made it. Home episodes become more ubiquitous. I think that's probably going to continue over the summer. In the fall. People are afraid to spend money so advertisers can advertise but people aren't necessarily buying and those companies are hurting to thank you. Matt thank you. That's Matt Bellamy joins me this Monday at one thirty business. I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown.
Following Trolls World Tour kerfuffle, AMC wont play Universal films
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as map. Felony and Matt about three weeks ago. Universal put trolls world tour available on demand in the midst of this pandemic and this past week. Universal has been very celebratory about that that effort to do this and said that generated one hundred million dollars in premium video-on-demand P. B. O. D. And many people sort of took this to mean that. I think correctly universal likes this Jeff. Shell the head of NBC. Universal said this release demonstrated the viability of this approach to releasing films but the theater chains of the world the big ones like AMC. We're not happy because to them. This is an attack on their windows that the movie trolls would have a nice long theatrical run and make a lot of box office which they would split with the studios but nonetheless this is how they survive obviously and they're very challenge right now they immediately said we're not gonNA play any of your movies now that can't be a real threat but it shows the level of intensity around the decision that universal made. Yeah let's unpack this because there's a lot going on here yes. The theater chains were upset. Amc said No. We will not play any universal movie. Cinema world others have made kind of lesser statements. But in the same vein of this model will not stand so to speak. But it's this is such a unique situation that I really think that what Jeff Schell was doing was the opening salvo in a negotiation. This is a guy who came up through the comcast cable system. He has long been known to want to shorten the theatrical window. The window between when movies are in theaters and when they go to premium video On demand all the others and this is his opening shot he knows. This pandemic has caused a lot of upheaval. It allowed them to put this movie on demand and he wants to experiment more and he wants the theaters to come along and he knows that this is not going to end where they have placed their markers in the sand. It's going to me in negotiation and what he wants is a shortening of that window. Maybe cut the theaters in a little bit on some of that. Vod revenue. There's going to be a compromise in his view that will allow these studios to change the wind. Doing and all of this bluster is just a preamble to that negotiation in my opinion well and I think the picture that's painted here as you say. This is a unique situation in. They had this movie is quite expensive. You don't see them putting a however the next fast and furious movie or any of their really big budget movies are trying to put them on demand like this because the economics don't work. Universal may be more or less hostile to the theatrical window or some people think they really want to wipe out theaters. Which is crazy and would destroy the business as we know it. But you right now. They need that box office if they can get it back someday. When we're not in this. They had spent a lot of money on this movie. The other movies that you're seeing moved are tend to be less expensive. This one probably about ninety one hundred million they had spent thirty million or so just domestically to market in the United States so they have expenses associated with it that suggests that even though they have generated all this revenue they are not necessarily going to be rolling in money at all from this and probably will lose but he is making it sound successful because as you say he wants what he wants and that is his endgame to shorten the window so that they can get to these other. You know when you have a movie. That's played in theaters for a while. And you have to let them sit there and sit there and sit there after the big adspend and the display in theaters. You Wanna be able to get to the other stuff that you're selling these after theatrical windows on demand windows and the DVD's sales that's what they want to get to sooner while it's more fresh in people's minds so that would be the end game. And otherwise I think any other studio the idea of Doing this kind of thing with the none of them have done it with a big movie. Right and universal is not the only studio experimenting. And you see Warner Brothers. Do this with the Scooby Doo movie. You've seen some other announcements of direct to premium video on demand. And they like this because they get a way to salvage these movies at a time when there is no movie theaters and they get a larger percentage of the revenue than they would get if they had to split it fifty fifty with a theater. Yes but at the same time. They spent a great deal on this movie. It's very unclear what happened if it weren't a sequel. If it weren't something that they've spent all that money to advertise it's also unclear. How much money they will ring out of other revenue streams that normally. Follow if this is you know the way they're going to go forward like normally they get the anticipate certain amount of money if it ran in theaters in this case is is that reduced because they ran it on demand like this. All of this remains to be seen a matinee will be watching. Thank you matt thank you. That's Matt Bellamy Former editorial director of the Hollywood reporter. He joins me this Monday at one. Thirty on the
Reopen for business? Movie theaters say not so fast
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as my Banter Buddy on the Business Matt Bellamy and Matt We are seeing Governors of certain particularly Southern States notably Georgia saying that they are ready to reopen theaters. Now the question and it's a really big one is a couple of questions first of all. Do people want to go to the theaters? Do Theater owners want people coming to their theaters? there is resistance to this. So and there's a question of even with with movies being pushed big movies. What exactly are they planning to show in the theater? So there's resistance to this and it's really you know with a lack of leadership which we've talked about many times coming from the federal government. The stuff is all over the map. And we we have no idea how this is gonNa work or when it's going to work. Yeah I mean this was a perplexing one because it doesn't really matter if the governors of some of these southern states say that movie theaters can open if there's no product for these theaters to show. There's not much demand among consumers and there's not going to be much desire for these theater owners to spend the money to reopen when nobody's GonNa come so then we saw the National Association of Theatre. Owners issued a statement saying that they're not going to advise their members to open theaters until many of these larger market states like they can say it but New York California Texas some of these bigger markets they give the go-ahead for people to go back and the studios. Start saying okay to present their movies in the theaters because no studio is going to put out a hundred million two hundred million dollar movie when only a few markets are open. That's just spoils the entire release strategy. The reason these movies have been moved for. The most part is because the studios need a mass amount of people to see these movies in order for them to make financial sense and without a bunch of theatres open. It doesn't make sense to put the movies in the theaters. Yeah and they need to run an ad campaigns like they run these things well in advance now the one movie that is sort of a big ones sitting there right now is Christopher Nolan's tenant and that is scheduled for July and as we are led to understand that he feels that by then it will be okay. He is among the a-list final cut directors who is passionately committed to having his movies in theaters will not see things any other way. And everybody's watching to see whether Warner Brothers can actually do this or whether you know it could undermine the movie if they go too soon so that is the one I think where people's attention in the industry right now is focused. Yeah and from what I have heard the conversations between Warner brothers. Christopher Nolan have centered on him wanting to be first out. He is such a proponent of the theatrical experience that he sees his movies potentially being a galvanizing point for movie goers to say we if we are invited back and it's deemed safe by the governments. We are going to rally around this movie and And it will send a signal to the rest of the industry that it's okay to release these big movies and you see everyone else lining up behind him because a week later Disney his slot in Milan which was pushed from. Its March date into late July. After the Chris Nolan movie. And then there's wonder woman that's slated for August and then we get into a more regular blockbuster release schedule. That's a big if but if it does look like. The theaters can reopen in July Chris. Nolan will gladly be the first one out of the gate. Yeah that would be a queasy proposition for me. But the Chris. Nolan is a man with nerves of steel. We'll we'll see what happens. Thank you matt thank
Is Bob Iger back as Disney CEO? He abruptly resigned from the helm in February
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown. Joining me is Matt Felony and Matt. We've talked about Disney a lot lately because Disney is one of the most all companies are exposed to this this disaster from this pandemic and the apparent absence or inability of our leadership to the White House to figure out how to address it but Disney is as we've talked about hotels theme Parks Bob. Iger resigned abruptly. It seemed to many people including me as CEO staying on his executive chairman in February And you know this is just the strangest thing because there was just a an article that Ben Smith at the New York Times wrote in which he says that Bob Iger has now having said that he was handing the reins to Bob Capex the head of the theme parks making him. Ceo THAT BOB. Eiger has now basically resumed running Disney are. I don't know about you. I haven't seen any announcement of that or any kind of indication that there's been a change in leadership it seems important to me. It's a huge public company and a very difficult moment and and yet you know in the same column He. This author. Ben Smith says Bob Eiger has took his eye off the ball and was more worried about his legacy. But now he's back sort of like Hallelujah. I sort of feel like what really happened here because this narrative is making no sense to me and there's a lot of why whether Bob really planned that resignation as CEO and then came back. I'm there's nothing in this world that will make me believe that was planned. Yeah it's interesting because Disney clearly not clearly but some might say. Disney was responding to that article when they put out a release a few days. Later saying that Bob Shape back the other Bob Who was elevated to the CEO position in February is joining the board of directors? Which many had said was planned all along but I think the indication there was. You know the new Bob is actually in charge. It's not the old Bob. Even though the whole Bob seems to be you know giving his strong advice and being involved in these major decisions literally saying like I'm back he's like a signaling in an email or something to this journalist that he's back and I'm like what but go on. That's the question you do have someone who has decades of experience at the Walt Disney Company there in that executive chairman position and probably feels a little bit of remorse that he left this job right as the proverbial s hit the fan and a lot of people speculated. That either did know what was coming when he did that. You know at the time. He stepped down. The Shanghai Disney park had already closed due to the virus and many experts. Were saying. Listen this is a couple of weeks away from being a global pandemic. Even if the American government wasn't saying so at the time the experts were and had that information many thought that that timing was abrupt and out of nowhere and then all of a sudden were in the middle of the biggest threat to The Walt Disney Company. In perhaps ever so. I think there's probably a little bit of remorse going on there and I think there's probably a little bit of Bringing the guy with the expertise to actually manage this very very difficult time. How about giving some clarity at? I wonder if the board didn't say excuse me. What did you just do? And how is this Bob? Shaping supposed to run the theme parks because as far as I know still no successor named for that. I mean they're closed but that's not like that doesn't mean there's no duties associated with that you know how. How is this guy now running the whole whole company? I you know I'm old enough to remember. When Michael Eisner having had a very supine board for a very long time finally had gotten enough people upset that the board turned around and ultimately dismissed him. So it's not that the board cannot be awakened in in a situation like this. I just find this to be an incoherent narrative and I've never seen such credulous analysis. I guess people who who who in the observer the media world and had had mickey mouse sheets on their bed when they were growing up or something. Because I don't think any other company would be getting the benefit of the doubt that Disney has gotten. Yeah I guess we'll see as this pandemic causes more injury to the company. How big a role. Eiger will ultimately play. That's delanie former editorial director of the Hollywood reporter. He joins me this Monday at one. Thirty on the
Will new TV streamers HBO Max, Peacock, and Quibi meet their launch dates?
"Breakdown. I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown. Joining me remotely is Matt Bellamy of the Hollywood reporter. Hello Matt Are There. So this is really. It's the Hollywood breakdown breakdown edition For for now a Lotta people are at home. Obviously as they should be as they should be. They are looking to stream things. We've talked a bit in the past about how it is that the studios don't WanNA put their really big budget movies on on demand because the finances the equations don't make sense. The streamers several are poised to come online and people have been asking. Why don't they go faster? Why DOESN'T HBO? Max Go faster? They're supposed to launch in. May they are asking you know the peacock which is the NBC universal offering. Why doesn't it go faster now? The and they were supposed to do a soft launch and then really go. I'd in July. The truth is they would love to go faster but in this environment things are going so crazy. I don't even know if this would have happened with or without corona virus. But they don't know if they even have the technology to support the onslaught to get everything ready so that is a big problem. That is if you want to know where it is. That's the answer. The question really is. Will they make the dates that they had set for themselves in the first place and everything I have heard is that they are you know scrambling everyone's working from home and the priority is to keep these launch dates? Hbo Max is the priority of at and T. and Warner media. They Really WanNa make that day. They've had to delay production on the friends reunion special which is going to be the big lure they have the friends library on. Hbo Max that is still on track. I'm told to be finished by the time that their launch date comes and with with peacock they now have no Olympics to promote the big plan for NBC Universal was to showcase peacock via the Olympics. And have some of the minor competitions on peacock but also a lot of the commentary and promoted heavily during the Olympics. That's gone they're really going to be relying now on the library content. They have the office and they have a bunch of originals and they have things that they can promote but without the Olympics. That's another challenge for them. A lot of Dick Wolf stuff and I'll note Jeff. Shell that chairman of NBC UNIVERSAL. Now the incoming chairman. Steve Burke retires has been diagnosed publicly with corona virus has said publicly that he is recovering so it just a part of the life. We're living right now. Is that kind of news. Meanwhile qube something. That Hollywood loves to talk about this. Is Jeffrey Katzenberg Meg? Whitman's big attempt to sell little short programming short videos. This is something. There was a lot of skepticism about in Hollywood. Even before this this epidemic. This pandemic will people. It's aimed at young people. Will they pay money to for this thing? Which I think. We're finding a lot of people despite their attempt to advertise it a lot and promoted still bunches of people out. There haven't heard of it and I don't know whether people will pay for Qube. Qube has certainly been paying for content. That's the interesting thing here. This is a two billion dollar venture. Most of that money is being spent on high end studio quality short form content which in Katzenberg's view has never been tried before. Yes there've been other things that have tried to get people to pay for short form content. Go Ninety was a big venture from Verizon Youtube at various premium. Tiers of trying to get people to pay hasn't really worked but Katzenberg says this is a different value proposition. Because this has stars this as people recognize creators that come from overall deals with the big studios all of that is included in Qube and it is tailor made for mobile which is where the audience is going especially young people so will people pay five dollars. Eight dollars without adds to watch this kind of content. We'll see April. Six is the launch date and they are zooming towards that they're not delaying based on the world state. And I think not even Katzenberg knows how this is going to play out. One of the many many unknowns. Thank you matt thank you.
Coronavirus and Hollywood - TV production shut down, some movies shift to streaming
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown. Joining me is Matt Bellamy of the Hollywood reporter. I should say joining me from home. Our respective homes. We are not the same home I want to say first of all that our hearts go out to everyone in the entertainment industry is getting so badly hurt in everyone generally but you know this is the business and the Hollywood breakdown in Hollywood has been dramatically impacted by the ongoing crisis. But we are going to also talk about The state of this business because For everyone who is now at risk and not working. The future of the business is of course of huge importance We have seen as you know Matt. Many many cancellations were talking Cannes Film Festival has finally succumbed that to the reality that they cannot hold the event. This year A lot of people are wondering what is going to become of the TV production season which is now on hold as a shutdown. I mean people can still meet and right. Virtually but production is a huge challenge. And then another question that will address as quickly as how why you aren't going to see big movies available for you on demand but I met one you One eight you sort of fill us in on the state of play with the TV business. Well it's interesting because the production of television is all shutdown so you're going to start to see delays in shows that were either not finished or were not even shot yet for instance. Fargo the new season Fargo was supposed to Premiere April. That has been moved to Some time indefinite down the line because they just didn't finish your two episodes left. There are sixty broadcast pilots that are were in various stages of production early stages of production. Mostly those of all been put on hold and the thinking is if this delay lasts until may maybe early June some of the broadcast pilots would be able to shoot and be green lit for series and get on in the fall but if we go any further than that thinking is that the fall season with all the sudden become the January season and there will be tons of repercussions for the television advertising industry from that Beyond that you know the one thing that is continuing as you mentioned is writing and a lot of these shows that had been green lit and have been given the go ahead for. Writers rooms are now meeting via zoom or other ways of getting together. So you're going to see a lot of scripts being stockpile just because people can write them but they just can't shoot them. Meanwhile from the consumer point of view you know the the networks are trying to make some adjustments to make things available that you know that any kind of create events so that people are watching something at the same time and have a sense of community. Hallmark is having a Christmas marathon That you know there are. Disney dropped frozen to more than a month earlier than planned on Disney. Plus as you know. Matt it is not so easy to a lot of people say why won't studios released new movies on and some of them are Sony and is doing it with bloodshot than the Vin Diesel. Movie which had a very abbreviated theatrical run and an universalist doing it with several movies including Emma and The invisible man and the hunt and most notably trolls but this is barely van dated it. It is not a solution that is a thing really for the movie business. As you know Matt Yeah I mean. This is a cost benefit analysis that each studio is doing now because the primary distribution method for these films movie theaters are now closed. So what do you do when the movie theaters are closed? We either find another solution to get it distributed right now or you wait and what we're seeing happening is that there is a class of film. Mid Budget lower budget that the studios are deciding to or some studios are deciding to put online make available for pay per view and digital download now and then there is a threshold over which the movies are simply being moved. And you're seeing this mostly with bigger budget movies like fast and furious nine and the minion sequel which was pushed from July into an indeterminate. Date so I think what we're GONNA see. More DELAYS AS THIS CRISIS GROWS. And then you're going to see lower budget films make it onto digital platforms and just to be clear. It's not at all certain that studios can recoup even their costs when they do this. This is a as one analyst. Put IT IT'S A. It's a sort of a policy of despair strategy of despair and and Desperation rather than a real strategy going forward however could reshape. How people consume entertainment when Finally subsides thank you
Walt Disney World closes, paralyzing the company's tourism empire
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as belony of the Hollywood reporter and Matt We are dealing with really talk about a moving target. We're we're trying to talk about the impact of course of corona virus on the entertainment world when we started thinking about this Disneyland theme parks. Were Open The executive now executive chairman of Disney Bob Eiger had talked to the Governor Gavin newsom and gotten Even though the governor has said gatherings of more than two hundred fifty people should not happen. The theme parks had gotten an exemption from this and this is really a losing bet I would say on Gavin Newsom spart because he now has the effect Disneyland literally closed. A couple of. I don't know an hour or two after this announcement so he has the negative of people saying what kind of decision is that. And it didn't even last long enough to in any way. Excuse it I mean the whole thing just as a fiasco politically I would think. Yeah that was a bad decision. And what we're seeing now is that this is such a moving target that even things that were claimed two days ago are then being revisited. You saw this. The march madness tournament first. They said that they're gonNA play the Games but without crowds then. Two days later the entire March madness tournament was cancelled. So you know the rolling target on this is pretty amazing and I think the assumption now is that the entire cultural and sports community in America and most of the world will come to a halt within the next couple days. Yeah I mean there's going to be ripple effects from this that are mind-bending. I mean obviously the irs itself is a pandemic and terrible terrible disaster but talking about specifically the business that we are covering we see. You know theaters were already challenged before this happened and now they're GONNA GET CLOBBERED. Disney as we were just talking about with key trying to keep the theme parks open as we speak the Orlando Park and the park in Paris is still open. The three of them in Asia are closed and now Disneyland. Disney has cruise ships Disney Hotels Disney has movies. I mean a company like that its stock tumbling And workers in. La are going to get clobbered too. I mean a lot of people working what are supposedly contract jobs with no benefits even though they are required to be at their desks day in day out. The State of California has allowed that A lot of people work on project to project. So we're we're going to see just a falling dominoes that it's going to need leadership to to to try to figure out how to manage this. You're not to mention the venues. I mean the entire touring industry and music has come to a halt so that combined with sporting events and anyone who works at one of these venues is now out of a job. These are jobs based on these venues being full. Disney has said that they're going to pay their quote unquote cast members their employees while the parks are closed. But for a lot of these gig employees The option just isn't
Amid Coronavirus, Hollywood Takes a Hit
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Matt Bellamy of the Hollywood reporter and Matt. There's a lot of anxiety. A lot of fear about the corona virus and people are being instructed as to what is best to do right now but obviously this is very contagious and while many businesses and the stock market overall are being very impacted clearly. Hollywood the entertainment business is is extremely vulnerable in this situation We've seen predictions that what has already happened. could cost the industry five billion dollars from diminished box. Office Revenue Alone I think that that almost as fanciful thing to say because this is a moving target every day every time you refresh your favorite news site hopefully reliable one. You See Different News and you know we've seen the Disney close temporarily a three theme parks overseas in Asia We've seen you know the bond movie now being moved off of its date in April. That is a movie of great importance to MGM which made it and is as releasing it in the US That company doesn't have other stuff that is critical to to its well-being it's bond and they've moved it now so far nobody else in the movie. Businesses followed suit but it just feels like things are moving in a direction. This completely unpredictable. And everybody's trying to figure out what to do. Yeah I mean I think this weekend will be a key indicator in the US. At least because if you look at what happened in South Korea last weekend box office revenue. There was down eighty percent year over year. And this weekend you have a big pixar movie onward from Disney. That is opening and the projections are that it's gonNA open pretty strong but those projections don't account for the fear anxiety that's out there and are people going to take their children to a movie theater. I don't know no one knows. Yeah let's look at Disney They would seem to me to be facing a lot of difficult questions I mean. They have hotels theme parks. Cruise ships end movie theaters. All of those are question marks right now in the. Us You have spring breaks coming up. You have Easter vacation coming up. I can't imagine what actually what the CON. What the consultations within Disney are like as to win the risks tip into a place where they think they should close these parks here in the US. Which would have a huge impact on their business. Of course or you know. What is the responsible move? Do they panic people? If they say we're now going to close these parks or is it the right. Move to say abundance of caution. Let's close the part. Yeah Disney is caught in a really difficult situation here and it's the first difficult situation for the new CEO. Bob Shape Pack. He's got this to deal with. And I've talked to people at Disney and they really feel that the power of the Disney brand and what they choose to do in. This situation is going to send a message worldwide. They closed the parks in the US that says to everybody that pays attention to Disney which is basically everybody that this is a huge problem and you need to be really afraid. I think the Disney is very sensitive to doing that so far. They haven't moved any of their movies. They have not closed the. Us Parks they seem to be adhering to what the CDC is saying. Which is that. They're not recommending that schools or big public gathering places close but a lot of entertainment industry organizations like everything from Warner media to net flix. They are preventing unnecessary travel. They're pulling out of film festivals and things like South by South West and I think that is the next step. We're going to the parks universal and Disney start to close. Obviously the important thing is to be common rational and hope for the best. Thank you
Oscars still so white and so male
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Melanie of the Hollywood reporter and Matt had emmy. Awards are upon us of course and once again. We have a controversy controversy The so white movement started in two thousand fifteen that really shamed the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and sciences into trying to become more more diverse And here we are again with very poor representation of people of Color and women in various important categories so so the Hollywood reporter did something really. I think spectacular. They looked at the progress that has been made and hasn't been made in trying to diversify. I trying to represent the population of the country really in the Oscar. Nominations and awards right because over the past five years. The academy has been openly openly and aggressively recruiting inviting diverse. People or trying to and the question we asked was okay. So how is it working and the answer is it is working but the numbers are still very very depressing. If you're looking for a more inclusive academy for instance. The academy is still eighty. I four percent white. It is still sixty eight percent male. Those numbers are a lot better than they were. Seven years ago when the Academy was shockingly early ninety four percent white and seventy seven percent male. But it's still not very diverse electorate. Yeah I mean I think what was so. Striking was the conclusion of our colleagues Rebecca Keegan and A person who did data analytics for us. Benza Zimmer is they could keep going forever try at the program that they're on trying to reflect what the country's population is like but they started from such a place of Whiteness Whiteness. maleness that if they if they keep this up they will never get there right and it's interesting because when you look at the breakdown of the member that had been invited over the past five years. The numbers are actually pretty good. I mean fifty. Three percent of the actors invited over the past. Five years have been non on white forty eight percent of the directors invited over the past. Five years are non white however the numbers were so bad going into this that it really only. It's like putting a drop of food coloring in a bathtub of water. That's a good analogy. Also you know there are people sort of say. Well you know the best movies we should win and we should be colorblind. But when you're talking about people who see things from us. Generally speaking specific point of view whiteness maleness. Then that informs informs how material is received. You know that it doesn't necessarily read with Equality if you're looking from a specific cultural perspective and you know and I know Matt. Ah You know Hollywood is a club and people tend to be you know somewhat slow to put it mildly to expand the membership in the club beyond the academy. I think it's really interesting to read this piece. That is just running the New York Times where they talked to a bunch of filmmakers and individuals at the academy and various people most of them black lack of about the Oscarssowhite movement. And how it reads today and you really get a sense of how there was this moment where everything seemed so great for a year or two we know and but I thought it was really interesting for example that Berry Jenkins Who had the Oscar winning movie moonlight you know. He felt like if they hadn't made the efforts they made. Maybe nobody would have ever bothered even watching it in the academy and it wouldn't have shot so that was on the positive side and on the negative side is here we are again and we just ran what we call the brutally honest Oscar ballot which we do a series of where people are non. Asli talk about their choices. And you know you read what I read. Yeah I mean these are cringe-worthy sometimes this voter who is an older actress. Basically said that she thinks that the Oscars are in American thing and that an American directors. You should win so she was not going to vote for parasite which is a South Korean film. And that really shows that we can say you think the best movie should win except in some cases on less that's right and then maybe not thank you matt thank you. That's Matt Bellamy editorial director of the Hollywood reporter. He joins me this Monday at one. Thirty on the business. I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown.
#OscarsSoWhite: An Oral History of the Movement That Upended Hollywood
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Melanie of the Hollywood reporter and Matt had emmy. Awards are upon us of course and once again. We have a controversy controversy The so white movement started in two thousand fifteen that really shamed the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and sciences into trying to become more more diverse And here we are again with very poor representation of people of Color and women in various important categories so so the Hollywood reporter did something really. I think spectacular. They looked at the progress that has been made and hasn't been made in trying to diversify. I trying to represent the population of the country really in the Oscar. Nominations and awards right because over the past five years. The academy has been openly openly and aggressively recruiting inviting diverse. People or trying to and the question we asked was okay. So how is it working and the answer is it is working but the numbers are still very very depressing. If you're looking for a more inclusive academy for instance. The academy is still eighty. I four percent white. It is still sixty eight percent male. Those numbers are a lot better than they were. Seven years ago when the Academy was shockingly early ninety four percent white and seventy seven percent male. But it's still not very diverse electorate. Yeah I mean I think what was so. Striking was the conclusion of our colleagues Rebecca Keegan and A person who did data analytics for us. Benza Zimmer is they could keep going forever try at the program that they're on trying to reflect what the country's population is like but they started from such a place of Whiteness Whiteness. maleness that if they if they keep this up they will never get there right and it's interesting because when you look at the breakdown of the member that had been invited over the past five years. The numbers are actually pretty good. I mean fifty. Three percent of the actors invited over the past. Five years have been non on white forty eight percent of the directors invited over the past. Five years are non white however the numbers were so bad going into this that it really only. It's like putting a drop of food coloring in a bathtub of water. That's a good analogy. Also you know there are people sort of say. Well you know the best movies we should win and we should be colorblind. But when you're talking about people who see things from us. Generally speaking specific point of view whiteness maleness. Then that informs informs how material is received. You know that it doesn't necessarily read with Equality if you're looking from a specific cultural perspective and you know and I know Matt. Ah You know Hollywood is a club and people tend to be you know somewhat slow to put it mildly to expand the membership in the club beyond the academy. I think it's really interesting to read this piece. That is just running the New York Times where they talked to a bunch of filmmakers and individuals at the academy and various people most of them black lack of about the Oscarssowhite movement. And how it reads today and you really get a sense of how there was this moment where everything seemed so great for a year or two we know and but I thought it was really interesting for example that Berry Jenkins Who had the Oscar winning movie moonlight you know. He felt like if they hadn't made the efforts they made. Maybe nobody would have ever bothered even watching it in the academy and it wouldn't have shot so that was on the positive side and on the negative side is here we are again and we just ran what we call the brutally honest Oscar ballot which we do a series of where people are non. Asli talk about their choices. And you know you read what I read. Yeah I mean these are cringe-worthy sometimes this voter who is an older actress. Basically said that she thinks that the Oscars are in American thing and that an American directors. You should win so she was not going to vote for parasite which is a South Korean film. And that really shows that we can say you think the best movie should win except in some cases on less that's right and then maybe not thank you matt thank
Emotional testimony at the Harvey Weinstein trial
"Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Matt Bellamy of the Hollywood reporter and Matt as we are even speaking practically the Harvey Weinstein Trial L. is underway in New York dramatic testimony so far You know this started out with the prosecutors laying out a very graphic description description of the alleged behavior Harvey Weinstein Holding Women Down Raping Them. I mean I saw a tweet about one element of it and I thought jeeze if I show this tweet to people when in the office I could get a call from hr because this is Let's just say the prosecutors were not holding back that was followed by an an alleged rape victim. Annabella skewer who has said that Sometime in ninety three or ninety four a Harvey Weinstein turned up at her apartment in New York. Ah basically pushed his way in and raped her and she described that holding back tears again. Very Emotional I.. We weren't there but just reading about it. This is very emotional testimony You know and she described not only the events that she says occurred that night but you know the aftermath in which she felt that she could not come forward right and she was holding back tears at the time when she testified but this is interesting because they're starting off the trial vile with what is most likely the most important set of witnesses. There are four women that have been allowed to testify as to prior bad acts or character. Type testimony Tony. That show what. The prosecution says is a pattern of behavior of Harvey Weinstein. He does the same thing to multiple women they argue. And thus the Allegations against him for these particular claimants are true that's the strategy and it's honestly it's something that is very effective. It's what made the difference in the bill cosby. The case the prior bad act witnesses were allowed in the second trial of Bill Cosby and there was a conviction they were not allowed in the first trial and there was a hung jury. One the interesting thing about this is that it opens up these character. Witnesses to cross examination by the defense and what we're seeing now is them saying to. NFL excoriate. Did you have a drinking problem. You know did you. Were you drinking the night that this happened where you sued by a landlord all sorts of things that they're throwing at her to try to impugn her character because she's coming forward against Harvey. Yeah I mean that's not a new strategy Women who have accused men have had that kind of thing happen into them for many years. It's the way these things work. According to our legal system and I think it goes to the question of why. Don't women come forward and you you do look get where Harvey was. There was a board member who was on the Board of the Weinstein Company who testified obviously no fan of Harvey's And he talked about the power you know. Oh the power that Harvey had so they were setting the table with. This is the district attorney's Office of of WHO. This person was and why someone like. NFL ESCORA might circle back and try to do business as usual. Not just for the emotional reasons that often happen in cases of alleged assault where women women blame themselves or try to try to suppress that it ever happened or just get back to normal or get but also the actual real world consequences which we are told old Annabella skewer face as a result of Harvey's vindictiveness alleged vindictiveness against some of the women that he had attacked right and that's the big hurdle here for the prosecution is there are our emails and such saying Nice things about Harvey but this is exactly what the prosecution is doing is they're saying okay. This is why this happens and this is why you have to understand it. It certainly sounds like so far very emotional. A very powerful very hard to sit through. Thank you matt thank you. That's Matt editorial director of the Hollywood reporter. He joins me this Monday on the business. I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown.
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW
"Revelation, and that gets confusing too because it was initially revelation revelation taking it back to leave it there. Lee hail of member station K U, E R, and you're listening to all things considered from NPR news. I'm Kim masters in. This is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Matt Bellamy of the Hollywood reporter, and Matt there was a big splashy premier in New York last few days for game of thrones. That has been a huge hit for HBO, and it is ending, and it is ending as Richard Platt Bler, the longtime head of HBO is has resigned and is leaving and John stinky, the new head of Warner media stalled by AT and T the new owners of what was Time Warner is looking to HBO to generate more content. I don't know. I mean, I wasn't at the premier neither you, but if for reading about it from a distance if felt to me like is this the end of something or can HBO continued to be be. Oh, well, that's the big question is, you know, game of thrones for the past decade has been the HBO signature show and you see up to thirty million viewers for one. One show, which is unheard of. And now they are facing for the first time a post game of thrones HBO, and yes, there are as many as four they're calling them successor series in development, and who knows if those will work, but can they amass the same audience and grow it to the extent AT and T wants to grow it without that signature show. Yeah. And veep is ending too. I mean they've been on such a role. And so I guess one of these spin offs is casting. But of course, it's gonna be a while before that's a show. And and the question is a site. Geiss question will people still be there when it returns do they love game of thrones? And that that ongoing way can they maintain that that level of whatever it was about game of thrones? That has so many people so in love with it. And and at the same time are they going to just hold onto their subscriptions waiting. Yeah. We did a pole this week in how? Reporter that show that twenty eight percent of people have unsubscribe to a channel or streaming service based on one show coming to an end, and that's an interesting stat. Because if there was ever a show that would drive interest in a network, it would be game of thrones. Which is the number one show on television. That's one issue. The second issue is that AT and T is really pushing HBO to be more of a volume player. More shows more demographics, creating content for and really trying to ramp up the output, but game of thrones was game of thrones. Because HBO took its time it spent lavishly these final six episodes are reportedly costing more than ten million dollars each, and they really, you know, it was a bespoke product that turned into a massive hit is AT and T going to give that kind of freedom to create. What will what will ultimately be the next game of thrones that we have. Idea. What that is now. Yeah. I mean, the lavishness of that party was old school HBO. I felt like it was HBO still being HBO. We we know very Well Matt that HBO throws. Some of the splashy is parties that anybody throws in Hollywood. So are they even gonna continue that tradition? This is a regime change there. So we don't know how many of the people who were at HBO are now going to remain, and whether this transition in I have to say looking big picture at all the stuff that was acquired in this Time Warner acquisition HBO is now in transition Bob Greene Blat arriving at Warner media running HBO as well as the from the cable channels, Kevin C HARA gone. At Warner Brothers studio. There's just a lot going on right now at this company. And it feels like a lot of uncertainty is AT and T has only just really taken control of this company. HBO is the key here. They've gotta get HBO. Right. Because that is the two billion dollar a year cash cow and AT and T. Needs even more profit out of HBO because it is highly leveraged, thanks to this eighty five billion dollar deal to buy Time Warner. Yeah. And there in lies the potential irony. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. That's Matt felony editorial director of the Hollywood reporter. He joins me this Monday at two o'clock on the business. I'm Kim masters, and this is the Hollywood breakdown..
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW
"Kim masters, and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Matt Bellamy the Hollywood reporter, and Matt Hollywood is talking about the Atlantic's expose on Bryan singer. And we have covered Bryan singer, many people have taken a swing at trying to write the definitive expose on Bryan singer. It took these reporters a year to write this article. But finally damn an on the record source and some who are not on the record who are alleging that Bryan singer raped them when they were underage, and it the question now is what if anything will happen, right because this expose has dropped not only in the middle of an Oscar race where a film that is still credited to Brian singer as the director bohemian rhapsody, even though he was fired off the project is now in the mix for best picture and best actor among others at the Oscars and Bryan singer had lined up more work. He was scheduled to direct this red Sonja movie for a substantial payday for millennium films that we'll see if that ever happens now. Yeah. I mean, the broader question, of course, also goes to the culture of Hollywood because I would argue that the the whispers and more than whispers about Bryan singer were as prevalent in Hollywood as the whispers about Harvey Weinstein. I was thinking was as much of an open secret probably for just about as long and we've written stories where we've kind of skittered up to the edge of this kind of allegation, but it has been very very difficult and again credit to these reporters to get anybody to go on the record even two or even to talk in detail, an offer credible allegations off the record, you know, because that is when you are afraid because when you offer details that identifies you, and I I know from doing these stories people, even when they are told they can speak without their names being used are afraid of identifying details and afraid of retaliation. We should say that Bryan singer has denied these allegations. And. He has called them, homophobic. The the Bryan singer case was always interesting because so much of the claims centered around this company called den D E N that was a kind of early first internet, boom company and the CEO of that company was a good friend of Brian singers and later was accused of sexual assault and pled guilty and is now a registered sex offender. But there was a mansion that was associated with that company where all sorts of things were alleged to have gone on. And Bryan singer was a big part of that. And there was a case about four five years ago where somebody that actually sued Bryan singer and cord made pretty scandalous allegations against him, and that case ultimately fell apart, and the plaintiff was found of made up some things. So because that particular case fell apart a lot of people kind of shied away from the Bryan singer story. And ultimately he was found to have some Inc. Consistencies in some of his allegations they were dismissed, and because of that Bryan singer has always been able to say since then that he was falsely accused and that, you know, people have kind of shied away from him because of the bizarre nature of that initial claim. But no longer I will note that others who are who are also named by that accuser have subsequently been named by others who were on the record. And so Brian singer is not the only one in that circle who has been accused, credibly. I would say, and I would also say that many of these people who are assaulted and victimized are damaged, and it is then easy to discredit them later as this article points out, it's it's reminds me a little bit of of, you know, Scientology, they always have people come in and say, well, these people were damaged and they're liars. Well, there that's probably why they were in science technology when you've been the victim of an assault. Maybe there are behaviors later drug problems emotional problems that make it easy to say, you're not credible. And that is one of the central problems in getting these cases resolved. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. That's not Bellany editorial director of the Hollywood. Reporter. He joins me this Monday at two o'clock.
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW
"From KCRW. I'm Kim masters, and this is the business you have to be very clever in the week to shoot. There's never at any point the word action. You can't just expect to say action and for them to become the part as a filmmaker. You have to know how to work around them and around who they are maybe LA bocci has made films in Lebanon before. But nothing quite like Copernican for her newest movie now on the shortlist for best foreign language film, lebowski cast, non actors, many of them illiterate and impoverished to play children fighting for survival on the streets of Beirut lebowski tells us what drew her to the story of a boy who ends up suing his parents forgiving him life, and describes the scramble to get her cast members the paperwork they needed to go to camp where Copernicus won the jury prize. And she describes falling in love with film while growing up in war-torn, Lebanon. Thanks to movies like. Greece. But I on the news banter any questions. Go ahead and ask stay tuned. It's the business from KCRW. I am joined by my partner in banter. Matt Bellamy of the Hollywood reporter Hello map are there. So the agony of CBS grinds on they had a town hall meeting this past week Joe L O the CEO replaced. Les Moonves says, and you know, this is like a trend now John Lasseter had a town hall with people at sky dance after he was hired there. You know, you have the town hall and try to get out all the questions that I have to say, I promote these reports that we hear people do ask questions, and certainly they did at this CBS townhall, for example, one employee apparently as we reported and Hollywood reporter noted that CBS news, and I'm quoting has been under siege by scandal for more than a year almost as maddening as the relentless embarrassing headlines has been the lack of transparency from management. What lessons has CBS management learned over the past year about the need for corporate transparency. And accountability to employees. So I would say that must have been a fun day for the management of CBS. This comes amid the battle that the company is having with Leslie moon Baz who has filed an arbitration demand and in that arbitration demand where he's looking to get his one hundred and twenty million dollar bonus that has been denied him based on his alleged misconduct. He is now threatening to expose other people at CBS who are either complicit or who were alleged harassers themselves. So this is a scandal. That is not over by any means. And I think the CBS employees are right to ask about this. I mean, they specifically are saying what are you doing to let us know what's going on? And how you're fixing this. And also they're asking for the company to disavow nondisclosure agreements. Because of course, these nondisclosure agreements to this day as a reporter, I can tell you frustrate us. And trying to bring these things to light people are afraid to speak not just because of their professional health because as we saw with Harvey Weinstein, you know, they're afraid of the financial consequences of revealing the misconduct. I think in the state of California. Now, you're not allowed to impose that kind of silence on people, and I think I hope other places follow suit. I I do feel for them because their jobs are seen as being at risk and not only because of attention merger. But because they're seen as part of the old less Moonves administration. Now, of course, les Moonves as who I guess literally has nothing better to do is is threatening potentially to drag some of them into this thing and expose behavior that maybe they felt they have no choice, or maybe they felt that their their jobs were at stake. If they tried to push back against the conduct in the first place, we've said on this show in the past that one of the ways CBS can telegraph to their employees that things have changed. And that there's going to be more transparency is to share. Share the results of these investigations that are going on. And there's been no real commitment yet to do that. So I think these employees are essentially saying to CBS management that they are frustrated they want to know the details of the corruption and the the bad behavior at the company, and they want to expose it all so they can start to get past it and move on. Yeah. They certainly didn't take any steps towards transparency in terms of the future of the company someone asked as they undoubtedly would. But what about the potential merger or remerger with Viacom? And the response from Iannello was we appreciate that. This question is on the minds of many employees, and we can understand why. Now in fairness, this is the thing where if you are going to remerged the companies there are rules, hypothetically, I don't know we have any rules anymore. But theoretically there are rules that the securities and Exchange Commission imposes and you're not supposed to run your mouth these things affect stock price. But if you wanted answers on that one you weren't going to get them. I would say, however, if you can add two and two and get four they're gonna remerged those companies. Meanwhile, Steven Spielberg, Steven Spielberg, we find out made a trip to Puerto Rico with Tony Kushner who the author who is writing his script for his remake of west side story. They went to the. Campus of the university of Puerto Rico, and they met with some faculty members and students on December fourteenth because they can foresee a problem west side story is a very well known and for many people much loved it's considered a classic. But it was it's a product of the nineteen fifties. The movie was nineteen sixty one. And some of that stuff doesn't play these days. This is often the case Spielberg has announced, you know, he's found his Maria just this past week, and she's Colombian which may be a whole other thing. Rachel ziegler. She's a Colombian American young woman. She's put out some very cute things on on social media, and she's very endearing, but she isn't Puerto Rican. And I think there's just enormous ambivalence at best among many Puerto Ricans about how you're going to take this material, and and remake it and they expressed that concern directly to Spielberg into Tony. Kushner, many of them said is this the right time like why west side story now? There are a lot of stereotypes in that material the Puerto Rican gangsters some of the comments and the lyrics of the songs about wanting Puerto Rico to slip back into the ocean. Just the sensibility of that material was challenged in this meeting, and it'll be interesting to see how Spielberg attempts to pull this off because people will be watching closely and FOX which is releasing this movie will have a problem on their hands. If Puerto Ricans rejected material, I mean, it's one of these things where people grew up with that music. And now every word the lyrics. So when you're talking about a song like America officer Kripke if they tweak the lyrics, and they will have to in some cases, people will notice if they do and notice that they don't. So you've got yourself into a sort of advice from the jump, and you know, a lot of times with remakes. I just don't know why this one when you know, how problematic it might be now Spielberg tried. To make the case. You know, he told one of the guests film critic who raised questions about why they were doing this. You know, he tried to paint it as thing that will be good for Puerto Rico. And he said one of the reasons we are here. The reason we've hired so many Puerto Rican singers and dancers and actors I either as a lot of work for Puerto Rican people here is so they can help guide us to represent Puerto Rico in a way that will make all of you. And all of us proud, and he talked about hiring dialect coaches getting the accents right now, and you turn around, and you know, you just feel like this is going to be under so much scrutiny. Does it feel like something where it's a win? I I don't know, man. I I mean does this work. We'll see, but I feel like you're just asking for a lot of problems that you listen Spielberg anyone can pull it off. It could be him. And I think Tony Kushner's is key here the screenwriter because he is now tasked with taking. This material from the fifties and bringing a modern sensibility to it while still keeping a story in the fifties. That's a big challenge. But you know, this is a very talented screenwriter, and he is a tune to these issues. The fact that they went to Puerto Rico in the first place means they are very aware of these issues. They are afraid for lack of a better word, and I think it'll be reflected in the material. I'm just gonna leave you with this quote from the song America, Puerto Rico, you ugly island island of tropical diseases always the hurricanes blowing always the population growing and the money owing and the baby's crying and the bullets flying. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. That's Matt Bellamy editorial director.
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW
"The business and i'm kim masters were listening to a conversation between matt hoffman and director tim wardell whose documentary three identical strangers open some theaters on june twentyninth the film tells the story of bobby shafran eddie gallant and david kelman triplets who were separated at birth only learning of each other's existence when they were reunited by chance in one thousand nine hundred eighty when they were nineteen it turns out the boys were part of a psychological experiment that involves separating identical siblings who were put up for adoption separately to study the impact of nature versus nurture when wardell was seeking funding for his film he didn't know whether he'd find out how the experiment was authorized in the first place or whether the brothers would succeed unsealing their records that was an issue for potential backers in the uk we did get was in the uk particularly people saying what was the third actor this film how does it end an i would say well look here's some things with thinking about these these areas with boys we think it could go oh but ultimately this documentary we don't know and when you talk about stories in the pasta and you can articulate them very clearly and really plot out all the you know the narrative arcs and all that kind of stuff but when you're dealing with stuff that's happening in the present tense you don't know how it's going to end and no one in the dot world in the uk was prepared to take a punt on that whereas in the in the us people got it and they were like yeah we understand you don't know how this is going to end but we think there's enough here that justifies us investing in this phone so the the film itself was funded both by an english company and an american company.
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW
"Few places in the world are closely identified with dance as a theater and the heart of moscow the bolshoi there is no other ballet that can offer such variety such high quality of performances as the ones at the bolshoi theatre we sit down with the bolshoi prima ballerina olga smirnova this afternoon on all things considered from npr news the latest news of the day all things considered at three on kcrw this is the business i'm kim masters from kcrw i'm kim masters and this is the business you're under the floor you might you gotta make sure you got cans onto the music is with the guys talking you have to be on a chair raising your arm up you've got to have one two or three monitors to make sure you can see other character on camera it's not easy being green and it's really not easy to make muppet magic muppets legend frank oz also known as miss piggy and cookie monster among others is one of five muppet veterans featured in the new documentary muppet guys talking oz directed the film and he was of course one of the muppet guys talking while his wife victoria bomb produced it they tell us about why they wanted to get the old gang together again and the press shy oz talks about his years working with jim henson his directing career and what disney failed to do when it bought the muppets but i on the news banter the inclusion writer rides again stay tuned it's the business from kcrw.
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW
"Morrison will join kim masters that's coming up into today had three on all things considered the white house's released its budget proposal for 2019 but the document has already been overtaken by events namely a twoyear budget deal passed by congress last week and if you haven't seen the smile of mommy binding and you just haven't been watching the olympics she is the 18yearold american speedskater the first african american woman ever to qualify for us olympic speed skating team and man does she have an infectious in beautiful smile will get her story and talk to her coach coming up today three o'clock as well as the winners of the twenty eighteen call the content newbury awards for young people's literature illustration which were announced earlier today we'll find out who took the honours today of three with steve jia take us and all things wchs considered on member supported casey rw santa monica los angeles the business is next from casey are w i'm kim masters m this is the business i mean that was the thing that from me took a long time i did ten or eleven indy's before i got a call from studio and now i'm seeing you know many many more women getting bigger halls to do bigger films rachel morrison just made history as the first woman ever to be nominated for an oscar for cinematography she's in contention for her work on the net flicks film mud bound she's also the first woman to shoot a comic book movie the upcoming marvelled megahit black panther she says more women are getting a shot at getting the shot morrison tells us how reality tv was a good training ground for filming scripted movies and explains how working with director ryan kugler led to her becoming the cinematographer on black panther but first on the news banter the mi2 movement has tragic fallout and fingerpointing stay tuned it's the business from casey are w.
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"One woman only even some conservatives say there finally fed up the country are ultimately the conservative movement depends upon the this rationing of the current republican party as to the potted apple podcast other platforms or kcr wpr com slash to the point i'm kim masters and this is the hollywood breakdown joining me is not belony of the hollywood reporter and matt historic day in hollywood people are reeling in this industry really uh i'm obviously alluding to disney's acquisition of most of fox not the news channel not the tv channels fox broadcasting but the film studio the tv studio fox searchlight a whole lot of stuff and that is this is disney's move to establish itself in the new world of streaming the you know the steel is being called the net flicks killer that's with disney wants to do yeah i think this gives them a big shot rearming competing with these tech giants they've just added fifty something billion dollars assets including cable networks like fx net geo and key library titles i mean they've got the entire fox library now that's going to be an effective tool to put together a streaming service that is going to have an offering potentially greater the net flakes from the getgo yes so disney has said it wants to start streaming services and of course netflix has a big head start in that regard but disney has once streaming services will be lucasfilm pixar marvel i mean that's that's very compelling content that they can put together and i'm sure they'll have something for kids and there's been a certain amount of concern of course in the movie business about the fact that disney patel far fewer movies then fox does and fox puts out more general entertainment not liveaction animated in ho superhero movies disney's thing is movies that can sell merchandise movies that work across platforms fox has just made standalone movies this year analysts at searchlight in particular shape of water and the three billboards outside ebbing the missouri.
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW's Hollywood Breakdown
"Anwar an only a bold prediction about president trump russia and the muller investigation ready i think it's the greatest degree of our age i think it's bigger than watergate and i think it id have yet as to the point wherever you get your podcasts or a casey our wjr comto the point i'm kim masters and this is the hollywood breakdown joining me is matt balanian th the hollywood reporter and matt ler going to be talking about tv morning shows which have just had major back to back blows first charlie rose and now matt lauer and matt lauer is a guy who gets more than twenty million dollars a year out of nbc the the today show it is it is the is the at this point the lead morning show among the major networks by not by a big margin but still and you know it apparently the ad revenue generated by this is so substantial in the order that five hundred million dollars a year that this show essentially underwrites much of nbc news is operation but this is yet another thing with nbc news lately which is a a bad look it makes you wonder if they didn't wanna do ronen feroz story about harvey weinstein if it's because they knew what a glasshouse they were living in right in that is the question right now is what did nbc know about these allegations of sexual improprieties by the most powerful person on the nbc news payroll matt lauer has been the face of the today show for twenty years and the the fact that nbc says they first learned about any allegation against him on monday night when a woman came forward and then talk to the new york times it's just another one of these things where it's hard to believe yeah these are big publicly held companies and these people i'm not and i'm thinking about now.
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"To caller owner or he was going to put us out of business weinstein curried favour with tabloids by leaking juicy gossip runin feroz expose about weinstein ran in the new yorker he recently spoke to npr's all things considered multiple actresses talked about his ability to manipulate the news cycle and negative items being planted you know these were women in many cases who worked in and on his films and they depended on him for their income paula throw liquids deputy editor of page six she had a book contract with weinstein but says she turned down his deal to option it for television and movies he did offer people in the press and not just access by there were a lot of people who had development deals they worked with him there he was a source of some of their paychecks so i guess that would be the carrot frolic once witnessed weinstein assault a reporter at a book party and she wrote a piece on it weinstein's assist interceded my boss at the time said hey maybe it's not really a story i said if you run this at quit we did end up running it and it didn't look like anything i'd put in the weinstein story has created a ripple effect in hollywood yesterday the head of amazon studios resigned over sexual harassment allegations the accusations were first reported by kim masters the amazon studio chief had several projects with harvey weinstein had masters accepted his book deal she wouldn't have been able to report on the scandal surrounding either man david folk inflict npr news rural this is npr news.
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"You want to hear your work on the radio or giving you a chance but you've only got twenty four hours to do it on august 19th qaiseer w host the 24 hour radio race compete with your friends from anywhere in the world sign up at case air w dot com slash radio race i'm kim masters and this is the hollywood breakdown joining me is not balanian the hollywood reporter and matt amazingly you know the business is boom and bust and open road the company that just a couple of years ago had an oscar with spotlight the movie about the boston globe uncovering the catholic church scandal that company now has kind it imploded in his insult it has being sold to a company called tang media which is a relatively new player in the industry recently bought i am global which is a global kind of sales and finance company and this really just shows the difficulty in the movie distribution business these days when there's so much pressure from streaming and from amazon a nut flicks and all of these other big movie studios are moving into the ten poll in a mega movie business they're really aren't many scraps left over for these smaller independent distributors to have a major hit and when they're trying to make end distribute movies it's hugely risky because a few bad movies congest wipe you out this industry burns money and even if you're making a relatively small movie you have to sell it and not is expensive no matter what it is.
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"I'm josh barrow host of left right and centre qaiseer w's weekly forum for civilized debate across the political spectrum today's news cycle demands more time for deeper analysis so left right and center is now a full hour every week subscribe and listen a case here w dot com slash lrc i'm kim masters and this is the hollywood breakdown joining me is matt belony of the hollywood reporter and matt won by the chinese company run by what was purported to be the richest men in china wong chun lynn was going to basically like acquire hollywood had huge plans bought legendary which was thomas tolls company that had invested in a lot of very profitable movies including the dark night and jurassic world but then made some very not profitable movies on its own wand up paid what was thought to be a very high price for that there were all kinds of rumors that wanda would buy more hollywood properties they own amc the theater chain but gradually it feels like everything is going south and it really underscores that doing business with china are expecting china to come and invest here we are nowhere near any sense of stability as far as that goes no we're not ended has huge implications for the business if you look at what wanda has gone from a year ago to now we put the chairman on the cover of the hollywood reporter in october and at that point they were flying high there were going to buy dick clark productions for a billion dollars that deal fell apart on the legendary deal has had questions they were going to put a a bunch of money into other films he openly was talking about buying outright a hollywood studio and over the past.
"kim masters" Discussed on KCRW's Hollywood Breakdown
"I'm kim masters and this is the hollywood breakdown joining me is matt belony of the hollywood reporter and matt the dark universe and by the dark universe i'm not talking about the washington bureaucracy or the whatever went on between trump allies and russia i'm talking about what universal had still has hopes will be a big franchise for them with monsters the monster verse and as we talked about many times before you know obviously disney has really got this kneel down with marvel in the interconnected characters warner's has been trying and really just had a success with wonderwoman finally a real i think on a lloyd's success for the first time in recent history this tom cruise mummy movie however in a warner's had its troubles launching what it launched by lease it was batman versus superman were sure i konic figures the mummy there's been popular money move molly movies before but this time well the the problem they have is a apparently the mummy movies dumber good i've not seen it but the reviews have not been good there has been some negative tracking for the film it probably will not grows more than forty million dollars in its first weekend which if you're trying to launch a franchise and there are five more movies in this monster verse to come that's not a good result i think the counter to that is these movies probably will do better overseas tom cruise the much bigger star overseas and also as russell crowe but the the overarching issue here is is universal putting the cart before the horse are they saying we have a universe of films here before the audience is actually demanding a universe of films and that's a really key question because marvel is very successfully created this shared cinematic universe of superhero films but they did it after iron man was a gigantic and surprise success.