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The Square Peg: Part 3 - Freak Power

Open A Fucking Book

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The Square Peg: Part 3 - Freak Power

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I'm wondering plane one day that it's not it's too cold and now it's too. Well what the fuck you want me to tip layered up. I'm wearing a bright pink tank. Top a long-sleeved t-shirt a regular t shirt or t shirt under luckily shoot under a t shirt and a fleece very warm hoodie. And i'm wearing your very the warm red hot chili peppers. They're not red hot chili for they are chili pepper. Pajama pants not red. Hot chili pepper. Read so i call him the red hot chili and i'm wearing my very very thick Slither and how socks. And i'm green hot coffee. So i'm very warm right now for once for once until about the middle of this thing and she starts going fucking coal because you're always fucking cold. Okay i'm taking off aligarh. Woo the of four one of four. Wait yeah yeah one of four. All right i'm kevin. i'm stephanie. Welcome to open a fucking book and we are on episode three of hunter s. thompson. She'll keep getting weird to be like all right so Last left off We leave off fuck. If i knew her we wait. Let me redo that. You know what you get when you mix now fitna right now a fuck. I no no a healthy now. Oh yeah that makes more sense. What would be fuck. If i know and i don't know i don't know either. Okay so we last left off Hunter just started doing masculine for the first time and He began to love. That was having a hard time writing Because of his extended drug use it was really starting to get to them within the spring playboy assigned him to do a personality profile of olympic medallist. Jean-claude killy the french skier that wild the world in the sixty eight winter games and then retired. He was now making commercials for chevy hunter went to the chicago auto show which happened to be at the same place. The dnc was held the year before so bad memories come Washing over him the being beaten down by police and save probably gonna take more drugs While he's always taken drug so but that's just again He hung out with kelly at the chevy tent with their newest pitch. Man you talk about some crimes that happened in chicago the year before. Nfl all-star oj simpson. Nice for all the younger people who are listening. Oj simpson was an amazing football player. Possibly one of the greatest of all time turned murderer allegedly allegedly and then went to prison for a long time for a i believe they got him when He likes threatened a bunch of people who took some of the stuff in vegas like he threatened to murder them go figure and he spent time in jail. Hey i believe he's living in vegas now and he's doing pretty good for himself. He's got a large twitter following. From what i understand now. He wrote to silberman quote. What seemed like a quick and easy thing has turned into a complicated monster and suggested the assignment could be part of the american dream book. We all amir. Remember the death of the american dream book. He still is supposed to write four random house now. Sandy delivered their remember. Sandy again was pregnant. Sandy delivered their daughter in july at aspen valley hospital with hunter by her side. They named her sarah. The delivery went smoothly with no complications for the mother but once the baby was born the room grew silent and they rushed her out of the room or released took sandy to a recovery room with a window that looked out into a field of mowed grass and flowers. Sandy laid there staring out for a bit. A she had asked hunter how everything was and hundred told her that the baby was as big as football player. You know really put it on bec but gano babies got babies fine but she knew that something was wrong After staring out into that field for a little bit she turned her head to see the doctor and the look on his face. Sarah had died has of the alcohol up so they they got into the they got into a little bit more these books about some gene that both her and hunter have that make it almost impossible to have a healthy full term baby like she had Miscarriages before she got really big into alcohol and stuff like that. The antiabortion But apparently there was something going on with their it was. It was really complicated for them to have a healthy baby together just because of their dna. I suppose there's something there's some gene or something like that that they both had that made it hard for them to like one was pretty much a miracle that that he was able to be born and be healthy and dell tried to have kids are on with very low percentage doctors give them a very low percentage rate without the drugs or alcohol so the drug or alcohol problem. It doesn't help any but them. Having a child together is incredibly difficult already. Because you decide you know just physically okay. No guy so. Sarah had died. Sani told hundred quote. I could just walk out of here. Just walk out of here. And then nothing is real. And if that's not real that my baby didn't die either then told her quote sandy. If you need to do that the new that if you need to go away then you do that by just want you to know that wanted. I need you and that will be glad when you come back. Sandy said it was one of the most beautiful things hundred ever done for her. She she had the She had the option of just going crazy. Which for anybody who's lost a baby out there. It's a. It's a pretty tempting option to fuck and lose it. And she was on the verge but one hundred told her that she decided. Now i have a family. I need to be here for and it kind of snapped her back into reality now. One hundred asked about the body. The doctor said they would quote dispose of it. Hunter was outraged so much to the point that he and billie newnan roque into the hospital. Morgue stole sarah's body and took her back to al-farm to bury her there. How but he okay. Yeah that's a. Oh you shouldn't have to steal your own daughter's body. I lost a daughter and we didn't have to steal her body. The funeral parlor that we Had her funeral at came picked her up took her back got her all fixed up and we had a proper burial for. I mean obviously this. Is you know a long time. This is sixty seventies. But still you would think you'd be just dispose of a body. It's not a you know. A boarded fetus. That you just dispose of its you know the baby was bullhorn. Are you okay yes. That's just kind of fuck out yeah. Welcomed hunter s. thompson. Okay okay go go on now. Hunters youngest brother. Jim at came to the farm in the summer of sixty nine virginia wanted hundred to give his little brother guidance or support. Jim had been depressed and even mentioned suicide and to really didn't make things easier. He was hard on. Jim especially when hunter had friends over and would call him a sissy or a wimp when he didn't play along with whatever they were doing he spent most of his time with sandy and wants andy really Kind of leaned on him for support through the rule out of it during the summer Through losing the now just way but you know he. He was he. Was there more profanity than hunter was because hunter was going through his own shit. She leaned on him a little bit and as really what he did with most of his time when he was there he spent it with. Sandy and watt now. He saw how hunter treat in her and he didn't approve but he was too scared of his older brother. Who was more like a fun uncle because there was such a difference in age between them So he was kinda scared to really speak up about the abuse that he saw mental and physical going on in the home finally on trip to the airport. When jim was leaving for louisville hunter spoke quote. The suicide business. You're not serious about that. are you. And jim downplayed at hunter made him feel like that'd be pretty pathetic thing to do. After he returned home. Gym rotel wrote hunter. Along letter took him several days to get everything perfect. That twenty years old. Jim finally came out as a homosexual to his brother. Hunter never responded commented or disgusted ever write a deck well so there's two sides of so so yeah you're like will fuck disease porn is hard out to you. And he doesn't ever get a response about it. They never once talk about it for the rest of gyms life. It's never brought up but hunter does continue to invite him to the house he does continue to talk to him about things just doesn't so obviously the homosexuality wasn't enough to completely cut him off from his life but he never it's not does hunter think it's something that's even worth talking about or is it just a subject. He wants to avoid altogether. They don't really say but that's pretty much why he was. He's been depressed that he was suicidal. Because nineteen sixty nine. You know not the best time for homosexuals in this in. Its down not us. Yeah so and and and it's still a problem today with with people not feeling like they're accepted because of their sexual orientation and leading to suicide and depression and another one of the many fucked up things we need to fix. But so that that look you gave me one. I told you that he spent time was sandy. And you're like now. Nope that's not what they were doing. Like is he gonna have an affair with his brother's wipe nope nope sherman now. Near the fall hunter and sandy started to notice changes in the city. They had grown to love greedy developers building cookie cutter condos asphalt laid over the beautiful major around the ski town when they moved there. You could ski right off the hills into downtown to the bars or restaurant leaving your skis on the sidewalk outside and now you couldn't even see the skiers on the hills from the middle of town. Hunter saw his involvement in local politics. Being a part of his american dream obsession. The republican mayor of was running for reelection unopposed. Hunter got a hold of local attorney. Joe edwards quotes my man. You don't know me. And i don't know you but in three weeks from now you're going to be the mayor of aspen very competent. Very confident is ever cocky yet. He yeah somebody can back up so he can't like he can like he'll talk all day and when it comes to show people up he'll do it but when it comes to a fight like we saw what the hell's angels hop in his trunk and wait it out. Yeah yeah i think. He's more cocky than confident. Now edwards eventually agreed to run and hunter put him on his freak power ticket so not democrat noted that was that was the name of his little political organization that he had grown was the freak power. We should bring that political party back. The campaign got off to a late start but edwards was known as the hippie lawyer the local lawyer that would stand up for the local hippy and the free speech activists so much that anytime any of them got into the smallest amount of trouble. They went to him for help. The campaign almost worked. The numbers are a little convoluted and one source. I read he lost by six votes. The other i read he lost by only one vote. They gotta think if he would have gotten his campaign started. Maybe a little bit sooner. He probably would've won fucking sweet. I know that now. Even though they lost the mir victory and the whole political process reinvigorated hunter quote. It has changed my whole notion of what's possible in america. He said of the first but not the last freak power campaign now. Meanwhile playboy aggressively rejected hunters article on jean claude killy he took several shots at chevy bucking this fucking city with their their little dick rednecks with their big fucking overhauled trucks. God damn it. I can't record a goddamn sentence without somebody drive on the fucking road with their overhauled came. I was coming back from work the other day. And this guy had probably an eight inch buck in Steel exhaust pipe coming out of his truck pointed directly to the people behind him just blowing black exhaust over everybody. Holy fuck middle america. Get your shit together now. He took so he took several shots at chevy and play. I'm all flustered. Gimme a second. How now he took several shots at chevy and playboy was trying to get them as an advertiser and thought the piece would cost them money. Quote thompsons ugly stupid arrogance is an insult everything we stand for. They said they would never hire hunter for anything ever again. Hunter let fron no of his outrage news. Got to an old friend worn henkel. Who had teamed up with a former new york times reporter sydney zion who were starting a new magazine to showcase the best of new journalism named after a nottingham hog farmer. Scanlon monthly was born heavily asked if he could run the piece in his new magazine. Hunter responded with a letter where he tore playboy to shreds quote. That whole god magazine is conspiracy of anemic masturbaters sternhell scandal monthly not only ran the article. In march of nineteen seventy they also pre paste it with hunters letter bitching about being blackballed by playboy. Now hunter's original assignment for the slick magazine profile on the skier and his life since becoming world famous to problems though one kili didn't talk much and two. Despite his playboy image. Kelly was pretty dull. Hunter was writing about kelly's life as a huckster for chevy and other sponsors finding out that kill actually hated chevy but they weren't paying him for his opinion they were paying him to sell cars at one point. Hunter exploded with frustration and phone. Call with kelly quote. As far as i know you don't exist. Your life sized dummy made a plastic foam. I can't write much of an article. About how i once saw. Jean claude killy across a crowded room the stockyard amphitheater kili laughed and said quote. Well maybe you could write about how hard it is to write about me. It was an idea that would finally give hunter the approaching needed that he would continue to use going forward fun little story about while trying to enjoy the auto show himself a chance to have some fun quote. Meanwhile slumped in a folding chair near the kelly exempt smoking a pipe and brooding on the spooks in the place. I am suddenly confronted by three young boys wearing bass regions and paddle shirts. Junior high types and one of them asked me. Are you jean claude kelly. Well that's right. I said what are you doing they asked. Well you goddamn silly little water head. What the hell does look like i'm doing. I didn't say that. I gave the question i thought. Well i finally said i'm just sitting here. Smoking marijuana. I had up my pipe. This is what makes me ski so fast. I think he's just going to ruin his reputation. I it was just a little big. But i felt like That's awesome though like bravo rob o. V. patty now that's awesome a kick. Now thank all didn't mess with hunters copy like the pageant. Had he let hunters real voice. Come out and didn't quiet. The reaction to the killy piece was strong from raiders and from hunters friends who finally saw in one articles the voice they had heard in his letters or hint. His kitchen and people liked it now. The aspen times served as the voice of the town's wealthy and getting covered for the freak power was unlikely they couldn't start an alternative paper so hunter came up with the aspen wall poster. His friend and fellow doctor. Tom benton created designs for one side and hunter ranted on the back folded into quarters. It was the size of a magazine and the first one in march began the run for the fall campaign. Hunter planned on running for sheriff of pitkin county. He cannot be a mayor. Sheriff sharing share out definitely machine and running back now during the edwards campaign. They use the to finger. Peace sign for the free logo but now he thought up a new logo a double thumbed fist. One thumb on each side of forefingers. Holding a peyote. Puttin you know to peyote button. Yeah it's peyote as indian smoke. Yeah and the button. The the cat. It's a cactus without spine without the spikes on 'em really at its shape like a button and that's what it's holding got sent him a pinkie while it's got a pinkie on it and a thumb that a thumb on the other side of the pinky and the it's holding up in the air. It's really kind of a weird looking thing but it's pretty neat but like you look at it. You're like that's wrong but it doesn't look wrong enough to be like wrong raw. It's where i post a picture of it on On the instagram one we after we boast forgive me i shouldn't said indians native americans They go by the you. Hear them talk They'll they'll say. Indians american indian or native american. That you know i don't like seeing let's find because multiple markets the natives mark now this was a symbol that he would favor until the end of his life Go to find your parents. If your parents are a little bit more hippie back in the sixties and seventies A lot of them might have a freak power logo tattooed on their calf forearm. Or something that it was a fairly popular tattoo. Come out of the seventies and into the eighties and into the nineties when he was really kinda getting. You know big with the movies coming out and everything at one day. We'll getting a haircut. Something went awry and about half of hunters head was shaved always able to go with the flow and capitalize on a situation. Hunter decide to get the rest shaved and went to the campaign with a gleaming skull. Ah gave him a talking point. The incumbent had a crew cut and hunter woodford to him as quote. My haired opponent very clever. Jim silberman reminded him that. Random house still wanted to publish the american dream book but hunter had lost the momentum for and hated being dragged dragged back into the mess quote. I lo- the fucking memory of the day. When i told you i would go right about the death of the american dream fucked. The american dream has always been a whoever still believes deserves what they get and they will bet on it. He didn't want to do the book so he tried to sell. Silberman on the idea of a fictional narrative told through the eyes of hunters alter ego. Raoul duke. He put the character center stage of the chicago convention. The election the nixon inauguration. It wouldn't be last time. We hear from raoul duke proposal. You who know hunter s thompson's writings. You know exactly what. I'm talking about to get publicity for the campaign. Hunter went to the office of rolling stone and san francisco and its creator. yawn warner. It wasn't a great first impression hundred late then. Hunter finally appeared wearing an aloha shirt. A frosted blond woman's wig dark small lens glasses and clutching a cigarette holder. In his teeth. He took too slowly and methodically emptying his lard satchel. He had brought with him two six packs of beer. A bottle of scotch can openers knives cigarettes. Smoking paraphernalia notebooks hats. Wigs flares an air horn work. This is that he does More and more hill it when he meets somebody goes to somebody's office. Will set a satchel and hill slowly and methodically take time and empty. Every single thing out of a satchel so you can see everything he has and it's usually just a punch weird yet now they while he talked for about an hour and a half two hours about everything under the sun all all drinking one of the six packs after that hundred got up asked about the toilet and then left yang said quotes. I know i'm supposed to be the spokesman for american youth culture and all but what the fuck was that. Hunter ended up getting an article job for rolling stone on the sheriff race at aspen which hunter hope would bring in the young hippie vote. Yon even offer to sell the aspen wall poster through the pages of rolling stone. The relationship between john and hunter would be a long and prosperous one for both of them. Yawn loved how hunter wrote and that he didn't shy away from doing things differently than other writers. Hunter like that yawned and pull punches. When it came to telling his writers what he felt he was completely open to letting everyone right in their own style. If it was good he would publish it. If it wasn't he would return to you tell you what. He thought that you should start over even with hunter. So that's kind of what hundred one. You have a hundred mike when other people did that to him. No hundred like when people told when people fixed his shit what people would would take his stuff and fix it or take his stuff and tear it up but if somebody told him what was wrong or said no this. I'm not publishing this as a good. He didn't like it when people told themselves stuff wasn't good but yawn wouldn't just say this is no good. I'm not publishing it. He would say this isn't a good. I don't like this. You need to fix it. Hunter respected that. Because he wasn't telling him no. I'm just not going to publish on fix it. And then we'll see okay now later that month before the campaign really got going. It was suggested the hunter that he go home to louisville and cover the kentucky derby now anybody who knows anything. I didn't even say the funny and you almost spent all your coffee just imagining hunter at the kentucky. Hurry now there's two sides of the kentucky derby there's the side you see on television with all of the women with their big elaborate hats and the men in their suits and the horse racing and then there's the other side adding the matting. The the underworld drunken debauchery people get fucked up at the conducted at the kentucky derby. Yeah so he called warner henkel and got a commitment from scanlon for a peace but he also needed pictures not photos. There's a special kind of ugliness at the derby that only illustrator can capture enter ralph steadman. Ralph specializes in bizarre illustrations. Would distended half skeletal half proto plasma figures that set him apart from others. He was about the same age as hunter. Just born and wales. Jc swore as art director for scanlon. Call them up and asked him quote. How would you like to go to kentucky and meet an ex hells angel. Oh my guy not quite but so he was told to look for a tall guy with a shaven head hunting jacket. he walked around churchill. Downs for two days asking for hunter. Johnson then was in the press room drinking a beer. A tall man walked up to him and said quote. Hulo i've hundred thompson. I was told to look for a mad at hair. Geek string warts. They said you were weird. But not this weird. They drank a lot over the next week and learn. They had a lot in common especially their disdain. For authority at first hunter hated ralph's quote filthy habit of drawing people mostly because of how he made those people look no one ever looked good and a ralph steadman. Picture for those of you who haven't seen it. I will post some of his pictures on our instagram and our twitter. They are something else. Are they more like caricatures instead of There's no real definition for a steadman portrait. I'll show you what. You're calling portrait's but i'm guessing they're not actual pulitzer portrait because you're drawing a person so it's still a portrait Even a caricaturist technically portrait. But now 'cause they're yes the the the exaggerate yes this goes so take that caricature operation and Like melt everything down and like show bone. There's something else then. I will post on instagram. It's at their hard to explain quote. I wish she would stop doing that. That filthy habit you have of making little scribbles of people they take personally. You know. Those things could get into trouble because they're really rather ugly. I don't mind them myself. You know but they really are ugly things. You've gotta stop it. People take it personally but they don't take it personally when he writes shit about people huck but see hunter wrote shit about people that had he felt at wrong. Tim or were bucket. Ralph was just you just draw anybody just some just unknown person standing there. He just start doodling him and he would dual them in his own special ralph steadman way. And if the honestly if you didn't know him and his style you would be very insulted by the way he drew because he over-exaggerate what everything and i got. I will show you what we were done. Everything hunter said was hurtful towards. Look at towards people. That eddie the wrong temer he had a vendetta against or something like that he and his wife has child has friends but those are people he knows. Not just not just aspirin. He's he's not just say shit to strangers just see is not really when all the time when he didn't personally know nixon he was talking shit about no no but he's the president of the united states and the soon to be president of the united states before that that he was in the public eye. And that's fair game. I'm talking about just just some just some random person. Sitting there watching the race hunters not going to sit there and just ramble on about how about this bucket person. If they're if they're minding their own business and hurting any money ralph steadman would just start doodling people and hundred. Be like dude. You can't just you can't just do that to just some random straighten out they stand up and been a fuck. It'd be like yeah doodle the fuck away but if they're just sitting there i think it's the pot calling the kettle black on and that could be not one. Ralph told him that that's what he was contract to do. Hunter told him quote. Well maybe it is. But you can't keep drawing people like that at something with kentuckians particularly. That's not a drawing to them. It's an insult it's like telling people you're the ugliest piece of shit i ever saw are something you'll get in a fight. The next night they met with hunters brother davidson restaurant. And ralph of course started. Drawing people even davidson. It didn't go very well. Davidson's feelings were really hurt quote. You've upset my brother. You know that and not only that people are looking. I really don't think we should stay around much longer as it happens. I have mason my pocket so we can get out of here. People don't like what you're doing. It's a nasty unpleasant thing is really getting bad. Ralph again reminded him that. That's what he was there to do and hunter told him to do it later because they needed to get out of there and then proceeded to makes the entire restaurant. Ralph said quote. It was a terrible thing to do. I mean we got makes to the whole damn place got maced. People were coughing and sputtering get outside. It was the first time i realized. Oh god this is not an ordinary person. This is somebody that does things with a pair nor fever amazed at entire restaurant dining himself looting them so he's just started spraying mace everywhere. And it got on at. It reminds me of the the concrete bag in the bar just over. Everybody and i bet his i. Nobody was paying attention to him. Draw probably not and his brother wasn't even paying attention and he was just know he showed it to davidson and apparently davidson was pretty upset about it. 'cause he he he drew him and his wife and it wasn't very flattering of either one of them and apparently he was pretty upset. And i bet if he would've let hunter would have let him explain they would have been buying. I don't know. Yeah zeus now after a time began to enjoy rouse drawings but while ralph drew. He noticed that hunter hadn't written anything about the derby except a few notes in a notebook. Let's because this article would be less about the derby at more about at ventures at the derby. Not all of it fact. Just like with as kelly piece. He turns to a story about getting the story starting two days before the derby ending two days after the derby the two of them suffering from enormous hangovers. The outcome was called the kentucky. Derby is decadent and depraved. The route hunter kept trying to get ralph to find quote the face. He vowed it would be bloated and booze ravaged full of horror and bile. They found it two days after the race would quote. We looked in the mirror. And that's when we saw the decadence depravity. The derby itself was barely in the article. The magazine used ralph's drawing of gap-tooth moron as the lead in the piece see that's what they light. You know how i told you. I love stock car racing. Yeah i don't think i do. I think i love going to the race track with the family. Don't remember much of the racing. I remember the crashes are remember running around the track with my brothers and sisters and going underneath the the bleachers and seeing all the weird shit people were doing in the bars and stuff like that. It's the experiences not so much the actual thing that you're therefore it's the experience of everything. Yeah i don't really remember my uncle's races. I don't remember my cousin races. I don't remember my dad's races. But i remember everything we used to do and i remember some of the big crashes. That's that's pretty much. It and i remember writing the track after all the races were done is it's the experience. I went to a lot of baseball games. I don't really remember any of the games. But i remember all the stuff that went around during the game like tailgating football game. I half the time. We're not even paying attention to the football game. You're just the experience of being you know in the parking lot tailgating all that ship so it's usually more about the whole experience that it is about the actual event hundred wanted to get to san francisco and worked directly with henkel or go home to how farm but the magazine decided. He should work in new york. Hunter was locked away at the royalty. In hotel and a copy boy shuttled messages and pages between him and the scanlon is office for six days. He wrote about flashbacks and his return to lable and tried to pull together a fairly coherent narrative but under the deadline hunter started sending scrawled pages ripped from his journal. Half formed thoughts sketches semi lucid notes. He knew he would eventually get a phone call and get yelled at for what he was sending but instead the copy boy came back and asked for more he was embarrassed and was convinced he was finished quote. I was sure it was the last article. I was ever going to do for anybody. They printed it word for word even with the pauses thoughts and jagged stuff like that he had constructed a conventional opening. Just at the moment and the article when he and ralph appeared to be spiraling out of control guzzling wild turkey and behaving like madmen the tone of the article change but the stops and starts of visions and fantasies match. Their actions. hunter eventually brought it home with a traditionally structured ending in which he took route to the airport kicked him out of the car calling him a quote twisted pig pucker and offered some parting words quote. We can do without your kind and kentucky. This was it. Hotter was convinced he would never again work for a major magazine. He also thought that ralph's drawings would be too repulsive for publication and that he would never be allowed to return to the united states after the thing was sent off to the printer. Hunter wrote henkel an apology. Quote it strikes me as a monument to whatever kind of limbo exists between humor and tragedy. I wish there had been time to do better to his friend. Bill cardoso he confessed quote. It's a shitty article a classic of irresponsible journalism. He knew he was a failure at the craft had been practicing for more than a decade. He was wrong. The kentucky. Derby is decadent and depraved was hailed as a triumph and brought rabbit attention to scans hunter said quote. I started getting calls and letters. People were calling a tremendous breakthrough in journalism. A stroke of genius. And i thought what the shit after reading it cardozo wrote back quote. I don't know what the you're doing but you've changed everything it's totally gonzo and now hunter had a name for his style. Hunter couldn't understand what was happening. He was stunned quote. I thought holy shit. If i can write like this and get away with it. Why should i keep trying to write like the new york times. It was like falling down an elevator shaft and landing in a pool fully mermaids which i don't understand have to polish every taxed and could step into his own writings. He could write about being hunter thompson and people would buy it. The america's cup yacht race was set for mid-september and ralph suggested. Maybe they go cover. That hunter could take some time away. From the growing sheriff's campaign to watch some boats. They met up in rhode island and hunter found a captain. Who would take them into this huge boat at. He got the idea that maybe he do a story by trying to get on board the racing boats gretel and the intrepid quote. We really could kick some ass. These people are horrible with their filthy. Two billion dollar yachts. With jin lounges. On the front of and everybody's sitting there and drinking their mint juleps and their gin and tonics and whatever else they have. It's filthy ralph as expression a decadence. I'd like you to see ralph. Got horribly seasick on the boat and hunter demanded that he takes them silo. Simon aka the magic mushrooms. He tried one and quote. That's when the screaming red idag started. It was a full moon. But all the reflections i saw were read the next thing i knew i was saying i feel hitler. It was a really awful panicked feeling. They took a dinghy to shore and called scam lines. They learned the magazine was going out of business and the yacht story would be the last if they made the deadline. Buck the deadline. It was time for some fun and to spend scan lund's money they grab some spray paint and under the cloak of darkness. Road out to the gretel. He asked ralph what he wanted to write at all he could think of and his fungus new state was quote. Fuck the pope. The pope unfortunately when they started shaking their cans the little marble. That's inside that breaks everything it alerted security and they were able to write anything. Also no story ever appeared at shad so as a free trip to rhode island and he had the spend some money while you're there But you didn't get you didn't you. Didn't get to ride on the side of the boat like you to fucked up over. More of the story is to shake the candy for everybody wants to know what's going on seventy just put some orejela. Your mouth or mouth. A little numb. I have a horrible who horrible today. I have a broken too. And i think i have an exposure nerve and brennan horrible patients yesterday. I'm not laughing at her is likely not my Legit cold speaking. Yeah no i Now lisp but Each impediment hunter went back to aspen to finally get serious on the campaign for sheriff or our saying what were you saying. I'm sorry shake the can before you get to the boat. Yeah but i think it's just kind of human nature to shake it. You know anyway right before using it s tomorrow the story share amd before you get to go okay. Well write that down in your notebook kid. 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The name change would do nothing to the people of the town but would hopefully keep away the buy low sell high move on types quote. These swines should be fucked broken and driven across the land. His third major idea was to control drug sales. He wanted to install on the courthouse lawn. Abandon dido platform and set of stocks in order to punish dishonest dope dealers in a proper public fashion. It would be the general philosophy of the sheriff's department that no drug worth taking should be sold for money and this approach would establish a unique and very human ambiance and aspen fat city drug culture which was already so much a part of the local reality that only a lunatic would talk about trying to eliminate it now. Honestly to those ideas went on pretty well with most people in aspen. What kept a lot of people voting for him was the fact that he wanted to change. The town's name if you wanna let that out. There's a chance he would have done better. Maybe even one. He is ahead of time. 'cause colorado was the first state to legalize weed the ben rashly gonna get to that here in just a few minutes now. Hunters article on the election was finally turned into rolling stone and released on october. First with the cover line freak power in the rockies actually titled the battle of aspen inside the magazine. The article covered the previous year's campaign for joe edwards and the freak power uprising knowing. He probably wouldn't win his election. The article and the spectacle of the election itself was actually set up more to draw attention away from the races. They really hope to with ned. Various bids become county. Commissioner and billy noonan's run for coroner the official with the authority to remove the sheriff from office so kind of a cloak and dagger type thing like. hey everybody. don't worry about that. look at me look at me. Look at what. I'll do look at me hoping that these two would win because that's really where the power was But as time went on hunter did start to take his race a bit more seriously asking old friends to come in and help run things porter. Bibb declined saying quote. If you win it's going to set law enforcement and jurisprudence back half a century when she probably not wrong but bill kennedy john clancy and oscar. A kosta did show up to help as did a new man in town named bob brought us who drew interest in the campaign because of what hunter was saying and decided to volunteer and would become another friend for life. He'll show up later on in the story. They turned the hotel jerome into their campaign headquarters. There was attention on the race from the bbc. The new york times the la times and time. Magazine carol whitmire the incumbent. Sheriff was so worried that he called the colorado bureau of investigation. The see what could be done. The freak power campaign leaders were told to shut down operations at the jerome because violence was on its way from the right-wingers opposed to their stances. Hunter kennedy clancy and former nfl player named dave magazi- who played seven seasons with the saint. Louis cardinals football team in the sixties turned the ranch at al-farm into a fortified compound but no violence of arrived. At one point a group showed up at a car the gates and they were turned away and they left and nothing came of it. But all these guys are like they're like hunkered down on the floors waiting for gun by bullets to be shot through. They had the pistols and rifles and shotguns. Are i mean they're they're ready for fucking war and it's never never showed the yeah kind of like when Got threats and yes. Yeah i think So where i work. Got some as downtown. Saint louis and going through all the Riots that had been happening lately and we got Threat we heard of a credible threat through a police informant that there was going to be a group of fucking hillbillies comma with shotguns that we're going to try to break into the place and They armed up and they were ready. And then fucking abbot. They even made us leave early because they were sure that they were going to be gunfire than fucking nothing. Look now hunter lost the election by was at riot it was People not wanting to wear masks and shit. no this. this was before that No it was because nobody was allowed there at that time we ever. Everybody was shut down. This was they were going to do because they were. I don't because they're speaking bucket stupid now. Hundred lost the election by less than five hundred votes. So not that if he would take it more seriously who knows. Now they're newton. Newton also lost. The hunter stood under the hot. Tb lights what. They women's wade and american flag wrapped around his neck and gave a quick speech after the results came in quote. Unfortunately i proved what i set out to prove that the american dream really is fucked. I didn't believe it until now. I've already made up my mind. This is the last trip into politics at least this kind of politics as he ripped off. The wig flashed a smile. But even though the freak power ticket didn't win it would change aspen for the good as the racist and more conservative officials would eventually be ran out of office and replaced with a more liberal open. Minded bunch almost completely influenced by hunters. Time in politics. Lock yankee changed. He really did change. The face of an entire city would honestly go to change the entire state which eventually would help in changing the whole nation. So your thoughts on hunter s. thompson aside. He really did do something. There i think hunter s. thompson or making marijuana legal in some places not everywhere almost everywhere although it kind of went a bit too far in oregon well okay. So the whole thing about organiser was you can do whatever you want in oregon now now. They d criminalize. Which means if your found with a little bit of coke. You're not going to go to prison. You're going to get a ticket if you're found trafficking pounds of cocaine or heroin or anything like that you will go to jail for drug trafficking but if you're found with a little bit of cope that you're using for yourself you're going to get a fine not go to jail. Which was what they were looking for and they made mushrooms for medicinal purposes legal at at apparently betting. On who you listen to. But i believe that that they are used for things like bipolar depression Whole bunch of different stuff like that and apparently microdosing with those things really helps. So i don't think they took it too. Far to oregon. I think they got it. Just right buying them for the for the harder drug weeds. Legal fight for the harder drugs if you're trafficking drugs than yes you will go to present because that's different because you're obviously not using pounds of cocaine on your route the your your trafficking and it will cut down on jail time. It'll cut down on filling up the prison. Cut down on a lot of shit and most seat bringing money tactic it just by legalizing weed. They cut down on the amount of arrests and people and Jail and harder drug use and all that shit it just it just works. Don't arrest people for stupid shit and usually you have less problem now. Wish it wasn't sought scornful thought. The we'd ask the we expensive. It's a fucking taxes. The actor groom now oscar. Kosta had come to aspen to help hunter more as a favor than anything else. He was also an aspiring writer and wanted help from hunter on a story. He was covering about of an la times reporter. It was a story that hunter had actually started working on for scanlon and now for rolling stone. A cost of one hundred to go to la to do interviews and the piece oscar was a big scary guy by all accounts very sweet man when he wanted to be but could snap at time. Scared people the people that oscar surrounded himself with were maybe even worse as they fairly distrusted the quote gringo writer so much so that hunter even said that he was more worried about his safety with them than he ever was. Around the hells angels. So hundred thought best to find somewhere to get away from all the distractions of la and really nail down the details of the story and so hatched an idea. Hunter had an old friend from the national observer that went to sports illustrated. He had asked hunter if he wanted to make some easy freelance cash by doing a quick two hundred fifty wards story on a motorcycle race in las vegas. He figured he'd take oscar with them to get time together that they needed do a quick little bit of actual reporting and have si pay for the whole thing and after it was all said and done the trip would give him the makings of his most famous work but before he can get to writing that he had to write the piece other. Reporters alleged murder of the story was about ruben. Salazar an la times reporter who had died in the riots in east la in the chicago area of the city. But some thought hunter an oscar among them that salazar had been murdered by the police because of his longstanding and vocal outcry of corruption the l. a. government and law enforcement go figure somebody named salazar is attributed to corruption. Okay he's not he he. He is calling corruption out other places. He's not the one being called out for corruption. he's calling. La government at law enforcement out for corruption es Yeah yeah never strange rumblings. In ads land azlan would be his most serious piece of reporting he ever turned into rolling stone. This is one hunter would meet charlie. Perry one of the higher ups at rolling stone. Who is mostly responsible for getting the magazine out a charlie. Perry was known around the office as quite the scary man himself. Especially when it came to deadlines editor and writer david. Felton told hunter while visiting the san francisco on wants. Perry dangled him from a window for being over deadline. Perry said quote. I held him out the window in the office. Not all of them. Just top part of his body had an shoulders but it was an upper belt and it became a story around the office. I only kind of did it. Hunter went to the san francisco to write a piece and was set up in the record library with typewriter. He had heard of charlie perry and was apparently fairly scared of his new editor apparently stopped by the office one day and stuck his head into the library and introduced himself at a made hundred. Jump and scream quotes. I got momentum. I got momentum. I'm on a train on greece. wheels. I just need to keep them about two days later. Perry stuck his head and again to see how things were going and hunter flinch added quote. I lost the momentum. I haven't slept. I haven't changed my clothes like feet erotic now. This piece ended up being a very traditional piece in other words. Boring especially for hunter and perry wasn't impressed quote. If i had gotten paid for reading it i might not have finished. It was honest and hunter put his bias right on the front page of the article leading him away. From the bad white man argument made by oscars militant chicago friends. Now around this time. John started treating hunter like a rockstar. Giving him a sort of license no other member of the staff could obtain he what stood rubbing some good natured some mean-spirited and even durden the occasional blast from a fire extinguisher. They favored hunter toy quote. The first time he pulled the fire extinguisher trick on me was one night. My house san francisco when we were sitting around taking acid two or three in the morning the fire was going joni. Mitchell was on the stereo. Hunter was fussing around. Doing something and i was listening to the music and quietly. Drifting hunter took this fire extinguisher sitting in the corner aimed and opened up on me. It was like an explosion of chalky dusk. And it's quite unpleasant especially if you have a head full of acid. As the only time. I really got angry at him and told him to get the fuck out of the house i think he was truly shocked by by reaction but of course he loved that too and he rebelled in the story for years. Have you ever played with the fire. Extinct i've had to use a fire extinguisher before it's not fun. No played. i've never. I know i've never played with when i've had to use one in an old dryer that i had once and it was. It was not a great experience because it was a small confined area. The ship just went everywhere. I've played with one before the the smell and inhaling it's horrible but while because there's more than one we had the the abc one that covers everything and it's really it's really chalky it's really dusty If you just use like the c o two types it's more just a a really cold gas that comes out and i imagine those are probably a lot more fun at the time i had. I don't remember what kind it was. i was a teenager and my cousin and i we were in this Rundown house and we were spraying everywhere and that was a foam. Yeah yeah yeah. Those are those are specifically per one type of fire I of the abc covers every type of fire at it. They're not fun to use. It's an it's a horrible cleanup to really bad now. The spring of seventy one things were good between hunter and john. He had published two solid pieces by hundred hundred. Knew he had more stable home than he had with scanlon. While working on the cells article which was intense he had also been working on something for enjoyment that he thought would be perfect for rolling stone. Something purely for pleasure. Fear and loathing in las vegas was born at the polo lounge of beverly hills hotel. One eight dwarf waiter walked up to hunter with a portable phone and said quote. This must be the call you have been waiting for all this time sir or the story goes hunter and oscar. Went to vegas for the motorcycle race job. They spent most of their time in bars and casinos and driving. The strip hunter had what he needed for the salazar article and wrote a twenty five thousand word piece on the race for sl which they aggressively rejected. That rejected article would be the foundation. On what fear loathing would be built on. Fear and loathing. In las vegas was a heightened version of reality. While riding the salazar story hunter went to david fountain home one morning clutching the quote vegas thing only about nineteen pages at the time felton. It and handed yod who also loved it and told hundred to keep going with it. The pages made their way around the stone's office some breaking into laughter. Others struck numb. They said that after you read it the rest of the day. They felt very dramatic. You kept thinking things we're going to pop out at you around corners. Hundred knew he would need more to extend the narrative of his vegas adventure so he added in the national district attorneys conference on drug abuse. Prosecutors and cops came for three days of fun and cincinnati open to learn about the drug menace but they didn't recognize that the menace was right there sitting next to them during the seminars to experience. Drug users one disguises the journalist the other as an attorney That kind of weird that these two heavy drug users wet to conference on drugs they wanna where the drug czar they know where the drug they want to cover what they want to see what everybody else thinks bodrov. Now after two months away from his wife and son hunter finally got to home. I took him a little bit to get back on track but when he did. The words flew out of him. There was a big difference between writing for pleasure and writing for work not to mention the freedom of writing not as hunter s. thompson but as his character raoul duke armed with dexter dron and adhd medicine and bourbon. In his basement on a desk made of an old door and to saul horses. He worked through the summer of nineteen seventy-nine oscar appeared as dr gonzo and was changed from two samoan because hunter like samoa and he wanted to protect oscars identity even asked. I can't remember which president is but he sends a letter to one of the president's asking if he can be the ambassador to america sumo. he was turned down. Hunter called ralph steadman to illustrate the story. The article ran into parts in rolling stone november eleventh and the twenty third of nineteen seventy one and was credited to raoul duke one. Sports illustrated down the article. They also refuse to pay any of his expenses necessitating a hasty retreat from vegas without paying the hotel bill something. He got pretty good at what he was younger. Remember yeah one of the things. Yes so he knew how to do that and that was before the windows were locked. Shut our welded shut shuts. You can sneak out the window. What he returned for the drug convention that and the race for about a month apart he was on the rolling stone dime and assumed they would also pay for his drugs. Alcohol and weapons paraphernalia. What he thought was his expense. Money was actually his retainer. He ran up such a monumental credit card bill that american express ban him for life. That's kinda because don't they accept like everyone. Yeah apparently diners club. Also put him out on a hitlist lah and they don't even have diners club at more knows love diners club. Do i think so. Yeah my parents us dan. Diner's club card. I think they got bought out by discover. Oh i'm not real sure now. Yan started a book division. it's called straight arrow and wanted to publish fear loathing. The hunter had already made a deal silberman at random house. I'm not going to go into depth with the story At melilla people know the story. There's a movie in a book durable But the plot goes like this duke and gonzo speed across the desert to vegas with a trunk full of drugs masculine. Lsd either cocaine nitrate tequila in pursuit of the american dream. They pick up a hitchhiker which they scare so badly that they jump out of the car with a stops there so fucked up by the time they make the vegas that the simple process of into the hotel becomes a terrifying ordeal duke sees huge alligators and lizards. The people in the lobby have turned into reptiles the racist chaos because of a sandstorm. They get a check from debbie reynolds. Show god's leaves town duke. A prisoner in his own room gets a telegram about a drug conference. He takes a new drug called adrenal chrome that comes from the adrenal glands of letting humans and watches president nixon on tv. God's will comes back. They go to the conference high on mescaline returned. La wise. the denver goes into an airport drugstore. An ask the woman behind the counter for amil nitrates. She tells him that those are by prescription. Only he tells her he's dr enhancer. The doctor divinity card. She's held him the nitrates saying quote. I hope you'll forgive me doctor. But i had to ask we get some real freaks in this place and duke walks out of the airport. A freeman in a free country. I know i've seen the movie but like vow. Random house held up publication because they feared that a kosta would sue for defamation of character. He wasn't named in the book but everyone knew it was him. Oscar had talked about suing rolling stone before and werner published his autobiography of abroad buffalo. His nickname with straight arrow and hopes of placating him hunter tried to reason with him. A cost claimed hunter and stolen his intellectual property and said he was most upset. That hunter referred to gaza as samoan. Hunter said that he was just trying to protect his friend. Oscar didn't believe him but finally after all that fear loathing in las vegas was published by random house july nineteen seventy-two. He dedicated the book to bob giger. Who helped him with his. Hells angels in sixty six and bob dylan because vice president spiro. Agnew went on about drug references. And mr tambourine man hunters favourite saw. That's awesome so anybody ever wanted to know about all the zo. Lot of what you see. If you're a living in las vegas is real and of course a lot of that. Hunter spin on it though nyc the The bats that he sees what he's looking up at the sky and he's all high. He claims he really saw those bats. Even though they weren't real 'cause you know they were hot now. Hunters next job was to load up trailer and his volvo one seventy four and had to washington. Dc was sandy wann and their doberman. This set up the national affairs desk for the rolling stone. He had him with him. A telefax machine that hunter dubbed the mo jo wire for sending his writings across country. Now this was before the actual fax machine they rented a two story brick home and rock creek section of dc. Sandy was pregnant again with only a twenty five percent chance of being successful after settling in c. Hunter got on a plane to go back across country to big sur in december. Her rolling stone editorial conference. Hunter didn't want to go to the meetings. He would pull up to his hotel his rented car and pull up on the sidewalk and block the door in the evening so no one could disturb him in the morning. I'm accents. what he did show up. He was an obvious distraction. What's showing up in a hotel. Smock and a robe wearing a blond wig. Nobody knew why he was in a hotel smock robe or how he got the hotel. Hotels machen robe to begin with. He would also scream yell at throw furniture when he wanted johns attention. The major development at this conference was the agreement that hunter would cover the nineteen seventy two presidential campaign from the new hampshire primary through the last ballot. Being counted hunter and return would get a one thousand dollar a month retainer from rolling stone and a deal for a book on the campaign when it all over what he didn't know as yawn would take his considerable expense out of the money. He promised for the paperback sale of the book. Timothy crouse was set to babysit a harvard grad. With a monumental stutter. Now being on the road away from sandy and the stress of writing biweekly campaign reports kept hunter on edge and began to stray from his marriage. He was never really faithful out on the road. There were scores of young campaign. Workers and political groupies at hunter did not resist. This wasn't like the last campaign coverage his peers on the bus. Were not overcome with love and admiration. He dressed badly and was usually late causing the bus to be leap hundred and yet why. Political reporters had daily deadlines when he couldn't even get one in every other week. Krause had newspaper experience and turned out to be a very useful as a hand holder but hunter wasn't exactly reliable. When it came to deadlines and the mojo wire didn't help much. It was fairly unreliable. He would send in He would send some letters at half of the page would be cut off or something and he'd he'd send things like make like a k. You just said that through or they just get the things at attica they'd be like what is he talking about. Yeah them now. On the road hunter met monte chitty a nineteen year old student. The university of florida that hitchhiked jacksonville and traded pot to faculty to obtain credentials and board the train for the campaign. They may they met in the railcar bar. Hunter had hash shitty had colombian pot and they headed off. Menial of course now soupy. I talk about bus. I talk about drain. The bus would take from the hotel to the train. The train would follow the candidates around the country. So if you're wondering why is he talking about bus. Why you talking about train. Because they were all working for the same but now the campaign allowed hunter to show off his story within a story style. All about the agony of reporting and writing a story every two weeks in the folklore and language that would surround the character called hunter s. thompson came from this period. An article called the banshee screams and florida begins with hunter. Reading a story. In the miami herald learning he had apparently run amok on the sunshine special. The campaign train and terrorize senator muskie and almost everyone else now. This was news to hunter but apparently a thug identified with the press badge as hunter thompson. Rolling stone had mercilessly heckled muskie pulling on the candidates pat legs of the campaign. Stop and shouting wild. An obscene comments hunter piece the chronology together a couple of nights before hunter and shitty had met peter sheridan whom he dubbed the savage boohoo in the lobby of the ramada inn. The boohoo was drunk. An angry screaming about muskie and hunter invited him to hang out with himself and shitty. The boohoo told them of how he was stuck in palm beach with. No way to miami and hunter intervene. Thirty years later shitty would finally tell the true story hunter got in the elevator. Leaving the boohoo in the lobby when the elevator came back down and the doors open. All that was in the empty. Elevator was hunters. Press pass for the train three days later after all this happened. Chitty got a call from the white house. should he was quick on his feet quote. Yes i met. Hunter s. thompson of the wrong so magazine. No that was not hundred thompson. Who boarded the hotel bus sun. Saturday morning taking us back to the train. Yes i was with hundred the tire night before i can only imagine. This fellow lifted hunters press credentials from his jacket that evening. No that was not hundred thompson on the train that day. Yes this fellow was threatening almost everyone with broken whiskey bottles yes. He was screaming blue and profane language grabbing every female by the ass aboard the train. No it was not hundred tops. And who grabbed. Ed muskie's pants and attempted to pull him from the rear platform and miami train station. During final speech. I was standing ten feet away to swear. This fellow who went nuts was not hunter thompson. Chitty and hunter both lied to the white house. Hunter also started rumor that senator muskie was having a brazilian doctor come to his room to inject him with a strange brazilian drug called evil gene or eba gave he never said it was the truth just a rumor that he started but people were starting to believe it with all this craziness. The other reporters were reading a stop and started to warm or cold shoulders to him. But hundred didn't suffer hypocrites. He told krauss to write down everything the other reporters did anytime. They wiped their noses smoked a joint. Or fuck someone. Other than their wives. Krause would eventually published the book. The boys on the bus calling out certain members of the press now while in washington san sandy delivered a son but the child developed highly membrane. Disease the same thing that killed one of the kennedy children and he died after one day. Yeah so. I just can't get the saw that sandy hunter don't have any more children by. It just doesn't happen so the ever morning only have one. And only now. After a season of hunters relentless travel the family was home and al farm hunter. Hunting was there to sleep not to be sandy's husband. Fear and loathing was selling and rolling stone. Articles had made hunter celebrity so there were the parties and in the fall hunter was back on the campaign trail but hunter was fed up with the political system. George mcgovern the man. He was pushing bore. Had lost that. He was sick of deadlines and all things. Werner particularly the editors complaining over expensive and hunters being shuttled to the zoo played the played following mcgovern around the country for the last weeks of the campaign. Hot to resign from the magazine and demanded his name and royal duke be removed from the masthead. He didn't want yawn profiting off. His image yawn refuse. This didn't affect the campaign book. He was contract contract at to right. He of course missed the deadline because he wanted to include the upcoming super bowl of miami versus washington. He was leaning towards washington but once he found out that nixon was for washington and the coach. George allen was televising prayer meetings with the players. He decided that. Quote any team with god and nixon on their side was fucked from the start. Oh by february. Fear loathing on the campaign trail seventy two was being printed. fear and loathing being added to all To his writing is pretty common now so by say fear loathing. It's not exactly las vegas. That could be a lot of other so this was fear loathing on the campaign trail seventy seventy-two by some many in the political world. It's considered to be his greatest intellectual accomplishment ultimately. It wasn't about the campaign it was about hunter like everything else. Something like now after that. He took a break from everything. But at april of nineteen seventy-three playboy came knocking hoping to capitalize on his new found fame They set him on a deep sea fishing expedition. Wanting to call it old gonzo and the sea. He did the article even though it took over a year to write in eighteen months to appear the magazine. The peace started out as a report on the fishing tournament requiring a trip to cause a mel which to hunter sounded more like and our work. Hunter took a long michael solheim. Who was an aspen bar outer owner and helped him on hunter sheriff campaign. He was the one who owned the hotel The the the bar hotel out of they did all their stop. Michael would be known as yale bloor and would play foil to row. We'll duke and her usual. It was about getting the story more than the story itself. The reason it took so long to write was because when he was about forty pages in all political hell broke loose a break in at the democratic national headquarters in june nineteen seventy two had turned out to be more than a minor burglary. It was the breaking of watergate by nixon and watching hours and hours of coverage on the spectacle caused hunter to stop his rest from politics quote. I've decided to make a big move to the washington hilton and start fucking around with this watergate story after all the ranting and raving. He was thoroughly disappointed to find out that he wasn't on nixon's enemies list quote. How can i show my face the jerome bar when the word finally reaches aspen. I wasn't on it. And he was. After all the first in the press to compare nixon to hitler in writing he was a small nobody at the time by the time hunter hit the as good as nixon remembered his football discussion with them. So even though you say these things about still a place in his heart. Because there's another football yet. Don't be too by the time. Hunter hit dc in mid-july much of the key testimony was over but his arrival was news when he entered the senate hearing room had turn. His name was whispered. Reporters were asking for his autograph. He decided it would be better to watch the hearings from the safety of tv. Fear and loathing. The watergate was his first major rolling stone article since the campaign but it wasn't hunters kind of story. He wasn't at the center of the drama and there is no struggle to get the story so it not typical hunter s. thompson. Thank by all accounts hotter had never done cocaine before nineteen seventy-three but when rolling stones set him a new edition of royds cocaine papers to review. Hunter felt the need to try it. He avoided it. Before is a rich boys. Play plaything and classified it as a ji- drug but after a few snorts discovered that he liked it it amped up his energy with the right number of perfectly time snorts. He can now stay up for three days straight. This was really one. Hunter's production declined. The cocaine would keep them awake but he became a different person was around this time that sandy started suspect. Hunter was cheating when he was in mexico for playboy. A package was delivered to the house. She opened it and tape fell out along with a note. From one of hunter's friends saying it might be best if quote. Sandy did hear this. Of course she played it nothing dirty. No smoking gun as they say but santa could tell from the sound of intimate familiarity in the woman's voice on tape that she and hunter were together quote. I immediately knew for the next few years. They lived in a marital stalemate the lost children and their marriage depress sandy turning her to drink hundred didn't like her drinking to make it through the day and warned her to get it together. The down hunter was also at pain from losing the babies but he was an old school southern gentleman and didn't know how to talk about his pay. he also began to drink more and doing drugs. He also indulged and other women as him and sandy began to drift apart. The and that is where we will pick it up for. Our fourth and final episode of hunter s. thompson. Would if you can't you have to be able to talk to your wife. You fucking asshole. This was a time when it was kind of a weird thing for men to talk about their feelings. If you talked about your feelings you were. You know you were a whatever your call the cissy. Yeah the things he would call his. You know little brother so this is not somebody did. Yeah that's something that is you got to be able to talk about. It is what it is but he was. He was off for the hippy movement and shit and hippies talked about their feelings for the hippie movement as far as people being free to do what they want drugs and and you know the environment knowledge shit but i keep he was he was four control to even though he i'll a ton of guns and like the shoot. Thanks so no he. He's a do as i say. Not as i do type of guy likely like he hates the fact that said he drinks. But he's a fucking alcoholic but hundred was able to handle his liquor. He was very rarely drunk. He drank throughout that. I say did drunk. He drank enough to create an entire soccer team but he was never really drunk. He was drunk but he was a fundra nada functioning at hallock he was he was. The drinking never affected his production fright. That's when the cocaine started when the drugs really got heavy. What because he hates sloppy drunks. People will just get drunk and get stupid. The hem those of the worst type of people had. We'll have a story on our last episode about about a sloppy drunk. That he hates an almost causes him some jail time. Yeah i got just. It's our last episode. It's still going to be as crazy as all the other ones that you all the way up to us fucking to keep all right stephanie. Let's us. Give everybody socials and get the fuck out of here. Okay on twitter and instagram. We are at open a f. i n. g. book and i am at a c. j. b. a. T. to tell that her or joel has worn off because she could speak correctly. Yes i am young easy. Am six on twitter young e pm on instagram. You can email us. Open effing book at g mail. Dot com seventy are goodridge goodridge dot com slash open af i g bukhari. We still have plenty of stickers on patriot. All your donations go to make this show best. We possibly can. 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History in Five Songs 84: Top Five Single Live

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History in Five Songs 84: Top Five Single Live

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Hi this is ellen clock at the holidays and you're at least me to paint import history with martin popoff. Production pantheon podcast. Let's rock out with martin. Hello once again. Martin popoff back for another episode of history and five songs with martin popoff brought to you by the wise cabal at pantheon. Podcasts was pleased as always to be part of this vast and growing pantheon podcast network. We are available on spotify tunes and forty other podcast platforms. Alright we are up to number eighty four hear episode eighty four. We're calling this top five. Single live nice. Catchy title you got to keep these things short. This is about single live albums. Long story i kind of started making a list and and putting them into categories. I might have an episode on the worst. Five single live albums and as this is a history show. This is kind of going early on and it makes total sense here because as time went on with live albums you know what happened. The cdph started. We started having live albums being integrated with dvd's we started having live albums. Come out at a greater frequency especially with our heritage acts actually with all acts really and live albums started becoming less special less of a event less of sort of an action. point in the band's career so it makes sense to look at early live albums for that for that reason as well But yeah i might. I might have an episode on new wave of british heavy metal Live albums as well. lie the ps was kind of looking at the different ways. These things chop and change. But i thought i'd start with a positive episode. One that is looking at sort of landmark Landmark live albums These are all these are all from our world. The hard rock world hard rock heavy metal world and these are albums that are landmarks for different reasons. And and i did figure. I you know i had a little bit of a more interesting way to talk about each of these As well as as we go along so But first thing. I wanted to do just wanted to make a few comments on the last episode You know there was quite a bit of debate about this idea of this new way to rang zap and and we got some comments in on the facebook page. Steve bellows says. Thanks for the shutout. This episode was definitely a brain twister. As i was like this going to pan out but as soon as he said sad wings was better than presents. I finally got it. Everything made sense. Good work you know and there are a number of albums that i didn't mention that In this comparison of ranking bands by You ranking them. How they stand up against the competition and And boston nineteen seventy. Six is another one against presence. I don't think i mentioned the boston. Now maybe i did but we go on here Steve says i would never have put it in that context. You did was truly amazing. Thank you very much Let's see what else we got here. Khalil donny says thanks you for thank you for doing what you do. Thank you for listening. Carlos a bad. Thanks for the shout. Good stuff explainable zeppelin this episode. Joseph beck joe. He writes in his dammit. Presence was one of my first step albums will die in my sore proclaiming. Why love for it. Nobody's fault and achilles stand up to anything. Release that year and onward. I still think in through the outdoor is their worst and again to him said. This isn't about what we like. And don't like on an abstract level. This was really about kind of weighing things against the competition and and even even still he says against the competition but i think what he's really getting at is he loves those two songs a lot and and it's not really. I guess i guess my whole argument leaned a little bit towards the the how. How hard are you trying and and technology and things like that right Let's see what else do we got here. Teagan gene cayenne evans. I completely agree with all your points. At first i wasn't sure but it clicked eventually presences lease creative work. So that's kind of the idea to let's be real though. I put it on a lot. Sometimes i just wanna bunch of decent roofs piled together in the scrap heap. While i'm working. Sometimes i just want more zeppelin where i've been zapped Once i've been zapped out. Nobody's fault but mine for your life or just basic little stews of spare riffs. Great way to put it teagan. Thank you very much for that. Killy's last dan has a classic all. The one or two classics does not a classic record make. That is a really important point too. I can see almost doing a whole episode on that really good idea blaze barsha. I liked the disc to. I grew up with led zeppelin so i listened to a lot of it or a long time. I burned out on them for most part when i put them on now. This is probably the one. I play the the most least outdated and upbeat. Well yeah i don't know updated outdated is is kind of what i was getting at in that. Let's see Sometimes difficult to pinpoint zeppelin's peers at times. Quadrophenia was released six months before our six months after houses of the holy dark side of the moon just before christmas. Debut southbound sabbath so yeah you can compare to a lot of different albums. And as i answered a back thought who always sounds a little old tiny. Let's see Some time in the juice present cover introduction to this new band called def leppard and the new wave of british heavy metal. Ha ha the rest is history exactly so in through the even though i said it was kind of a record out of time you start comparing it to even you know a bunch of late teenagers or whatever. They were in-depth leopard in it sounding a little ropey. Lemme would say anyways. Let's stop there and move on but but yeah so. Let's let's move onto this episode so this is top five single live albums in brackets. I suppose let's take a listen to this. And i'll discuss what's in here. This is the who with young man blues from live at leeds. I said the young man got nothing in the world. Well you know an old days when a young all right a karang heavy song from the who there Even though they didn't write it. I had to include this album in here because people often call this. The greatest live album of all time and And it's the only album that the who put out live album that they put out when they were when they were all the classic of of the who this came out may twenty third one thousand nine hundred seventy s the follow up to tommy. I'm not a huge fan of the album because it's got a fourteen twenty seven version of my generation which they wrote the magic bus at seven thirty which they wrote And you move over. Its got young man blues which is mozambique. But it's crazy heavy song. That sounds really good here and substitute which they wrote summertime blues which they didn't chicken all over which they didn't all of those are in shorter versions but You know this is considered one of the definitive versions of summertime blues as well And all told it's a it's a pretty heavy rock and album and that's the thing people like about for nineteen seventy. you know. This is who with all that that that white-hot who chemistry but also taking that white-hot who chemistry and moving into a live environment when it's where it's really heavy this is the university of leeds refectory. Right So yeah for a single live album so again. The the concept of this episode A single item does certain things to you. Sometimes you think oh. I wish it was a double. Sometimes you think they got in. They got out they destroyed. And that's kind of what you get out of this live at leeds album you know. It's it's got these long versions on it and stuff and yes maybe you would have liked to have seen a double but but it is kind of interesting the way it all pans out and plays out and it really is one of these records. That is a lot about the performance of those guys that bass player john entwistle especially that drummer. Keith moon lot of lot of crazy drumming on here and it's keith. it is at his peak right. Pete and all the different things he does on guitar from the melodic and lyrical to To the noisy and carrying and roger you know being a pretty aggressive nasty roger on this album one of the cool things about it. My copy is this as well. You know it's made to look like a bootleg on the outside but it's got all these paper inserts and stuff on it these little delivery notes else we got here. You know letters and and all this stuff you know booking stuff some stuff about the fees and it really looks like these things are real. They're printed really You know ingeniously that they actually look like actual original documents and over time. People have been fooled by that actually thought they were. You know proper you know pieces of who sundry pieces of paper right paper goods as they call it in the collecting industry. So there you go. That's our first one here on history and five songs with martin popoff. Let's move onto our second one here. take a listen to this. This is cheap trick with big eyes all right so here. We have cheap trick from At buddha can it's called This is february nineteen seventy-nine this was recorded on my fifteenth birthday april twenty eighth and april thirtieth nineteen seventy eight. So this is cheap trick. I what i like about this whole idea number one. This was their biggest selling album. Which is weird. I mean this happens. Sometimes with these single live albums so their biggest selling album triple platinum. This is a band that had a lot of success. They had a lot of goals and a few platinum's But what this does is and it was. It was released in japan early. So there's this sort of like cult band thing going. Oh this cult band. They're they're important enough to have a live album in japan. They're important enough to be this craze in japan. The japanese know what they're doing. There's this long history of maiden japan and kiss going to japan and all that kind of stuff right so deep purple made in japan right So there's this there's this this cool thing of this record that's made off far away in an exotic land and it's And it and it blows up. It comes out february seventy-nine it completely blows up and you know the cool things about it. So it's a gate fold but it's only a single Cool front cover with you. Know the the the pretty boys on the front and then the the to comical dudes on the back but pretty heavy and rockin and it shows there who actually it opens with. hello there which. Which is this really heavy crunching short song from from the second one in color. Come on come on. Look how big is need your love all pretty heavy tunes So yeah need your love. i believe. That's that's one of the ones here that wasn't on a studio album but is pretty heavy. Ain't that a shame as a cover but it's pretty heavy but yeah one of the neat things about this is you get this live version of. I want you to want me which is just a little more rock and roll z. A little more power poppy than the straight oppy of the studio version. So that was a neat bonus surrender. Their they're big huge song. So this is three records in So it's it's following that time honored thing that kiss kind of invented of the Three records and then alive record You know they're friends of kiss their touring with kiss. I saw them. That was one of my first big shows. I saw them backing up. Kiss in montreal. Thousand nine hundred seventy eight but Yeah a good night now. Clock strikes ten so so all told. It's a pretty heavy album to pretty raw album. But it just goes to show that the excitement of being with people and hearing a crowd can cannot can get people excited about a record. Even though the sonics. Aren't that great honor record and volt this thing to frigging three times platinum pretty wild so there you go. That's cheap trick you know. Doing what cheap trick does you know. Proving that they're a good live band. Everybody knew that about them but But here they are. You know it's it's almost like an actor proving that the really cool when they can act in theater on broadway versus You know the multiple takes thing of a movie of a tv show kind of thing so neat badge of honor. It's you get a good reputation when you prove that you can be a pretty good live band so there you go. That was cheap trick. Let's take a short break. We'll be right back alright. Back again hear episode eighty four top five single live history and five songs with martin popoff. Let's take a listen to our third selection Again a live song from a single live album not a double live album. Take a listen to this. This is fox. With honey hush from live august nineteenth nineteen seventy seven all right so this is just like oh cheap trick situation really bizarre but faulk hat live is the biggest selling fog. How this record went double platinum for fog at Fool for the city is platinum and they had five gold records so this is a band that had a lot of success. But it's really cool. They have this album. Come out It's got a die cut cover in the original vinyl with the the big live letters cut out and you can see the four guys pictures of them there. you flip it over and one of the cool things about this is it's got all these live shots from one of these. Big massive appaled outdoor shows where the band looks like they're just conquering the world. And you know that as a kid always you know. Made me think that this album was recorded. Live outside and this. This wasn't it was at some sort of dumb. What is it called. Dome arena henrietta. New york with a mobile it was recorded may tenth one thousand nine hundred ninety seven but the cool thing about this record is that it is. It is kind of just you know so. It's a single live album. Get in get out. It only has six songs on it. Three on each side But it's got fooled for the city. Which is one of the good hard rock and tunes. A great anthem kicks off album home in my hand. I just wanna make love to you. Which is a heavy heavy version of. You know it's a cover of an old blue song. Home in. My hand is a good hard rock and song and then onto side to. You've got road fever. Good hard rock and boogie rock song. Honey hush which you just heard which is like just an anthem phetamine level. You know very fast speedy bougie. You know long history of the song honey. Hush it's a it's a little bit of like a sped up train kept a role. And you know it's it's a blue standard very blue standard. But you know this is one of the heaviest blues Versions of a song. You'll ever hear so there. You go fog at speeding it up and then you get them closing with slow ride their big awesome anthem. They're big most famous songs. So so there you go faulk hat. Live just a great live album came out at the perfect time. When fog was at the height of a single live album would life have been different if it was a double live. I bet the guys themselves would say you know what leave it how it is because this thing went double platinum which is pretty pretty darn amazing There you go faulk hat live. let's move on. Let's move onto our fourth selection here on history and five songs. This is The pat travers band with go all night from pat. Travers band live exclamation mark. Go for what you know. Little bit of a messy title. Take a listen. Go all night down doc dr all right so this record you know. I'm kind of going in My preference in order here across these five of how great i think these albums are and And so we're up number four. So this is my second favourite. Probably single live album from the seventies. I'm pretty sure about this. I would say it fits this. So yeah it's got this messy title. Gopher what you know. Down in the lower left corner pat travers band you know messy band name anyways and then just live thrown in there so nobody knows exactly what to call this record but again flip it over and you see pictures of the band live outside under a burning sun And you think it's an album that is recorded outside but it was recorded. The opera house austin texas a great southern music hall orlando florida. Great southern music hall. Gainesville florida gusman hall miami florida january and february nineteen seventy nine so recorded a bunch of places you know. This is one that really almost pains me to think of them recording it at a small gig inside because this is absolutely one of the most smoke in live performances. You'll ever hear on an on and album. Forget allman brothers. Forget humble-pie blah blah blah. All these other great live albums bore me to tears. What you get here is you. You get the band at their incredible white-hot height of being this funky hard rock band. You've got the dual team of pat travers on guitar and vocals pat thrall and guitar and backing vocals. One of the great basis of all time. Sadly now deceased mars cowling and tommy aldridge. You know you know him from all over the place especially whitesnake but this band. Also and black oak arkansas ozzie but but on this record in particular i swear. This is the greatest. Tommy aldridge Performance on on a record and the four guys combined to just be this this kick ass. Funky hardrock band. You've got an and most of these songs actually play opt that that part of the pat travers oeuvre The one of the coolest things they do is. Is this really kind of syncopated progressive. Hard rock funky nece. You got hooked on music getting better go all night which you just heard which is probably one of their funky songs if not the funky stevie can be even a little bit funky. The one the one let down to me is is sort of a fast shuffle bougie on here boom boom out. Go the lights. But it was a little bit of a hit for them which is kinda cool for them. Then you've got Making magic you know onto side to second track. Make magic one their heaviest songs heat in the street. Even heavier makes no difference even heavier. So you end off with with three of their heaviest songs today. eight You know it's it's missing Missing life in london Couple other things. But but you know that that second side after steve is just rock and right to the end so this is a really pretty heavy album and again. It's one of those that that you think is recorded outside all your life as a little kid but but it's not really and it's funny the wikki page one of the first thing it says is oh. This went platinum in the us. And i thought no way. This went platinum in the us. So i went and checked a gold and platinum search at r. i. a. and no it's not platinum. It's not even gold. I pat travers actually had no certifications in the us gold or platinum but they were fairly successful band that that reminds me of the success of the likes of ufo and and rainbow You know none of these bands. You has maybe one. I can't remember. We looked this up once on one of these episodes and thin lizzy as well just you know. They have this their legendary. Everybody knows them but but they've got no certifications in the states Thin thin lizzy definitely has a gold for jailbreak. And i think think ufo as a gold for lights out or might be one of these myths that it went gold in it and it didn't go gold or something but yeah all these bands are kind of in that thing. Where you know. They're selling a few hundred thousand albums every every time out. But they didn't get certified and pat. Travers was a big famous band that way as well loved that record. What a cool record like say super heavy super funky one of the greatest performances of funk metal a you will ever hear before the later definition of funk metal with faith no more scattered rain and dan reed network and t ride and all those guys right dance metal. Whatever you wanna call it all right. Let's move on This is our last selection here on history and five songs. And this i think is the greatest single. Lp live album of the seventies Take a listen this. This is judas priest with running wild the remember. Thank you all right. So unleashed in the east again. This is one of those situations where is just so magical what they did and this actually went platinum. This got certified so it came out. September seventeenth seventy nine. There was one of these. You know group platinum our group certification parties For priest away up into november of eighty nine in this was certified gold and platinum at the same time so really cool that. This record is certified. Platinum priest had a lot of success all through the eighties and that eighty success went back and dragged a few of these. These albums that you think wouldn't get certified up to a certification level an amazing amazing album. You know people you know people consider call this album sometimes Unleashed in the studio. And that's not really true. This is not that much. The studio album I i believe a high. I always forget how the story goes. And this is terrible. Because i've written one two three judas priest books my first one is still actually. Yeah the first one is still The first of the two updates on heavy metal. Painkillers is still available. You can still get decade of domination. From which has the whole story of this album as well at martin popoff dot com But i keep forgetting the story. But i i believe rob had had a bit of a cold or a flu when he was recording this And he and he went in and redid the vocals and there were few other little. Touch-ups whatever i hate even bring it up because it is such a cooking amazing live album even listening to this version of running wild again like it say you know i. I love the version on Hell bent for leather killing machine slash. Hell bent for leather but You can just tell. This ban has so much chemistry and power and they are at the height of their powers. at this time this is after that genius run of albums you know right up to hell bent for leather You've got sin after sin in there and stained class and sad wings rock arolla making lots of records really quickly and they're just genius records right but the cool thing about this album is that it is it is true it it just feels so perfect as a single. It's like get in attack and get out it's got it's got songs on here so this is this is a nice thing that alive album sometimes does. Sometimes it just gives you such a radically different version of of songs versus versus the studio album not not particularly the arrangement of the song. Or what you're gonna do in it but just the production value so so when you get excited. Her in a raucous live environment. It's so much crazier than the pristine scientific version. You get on stained class running while little less so but still But center certainly. I mean that roger glover produced sin after sin album was very pristine and clinical She gets center on here. And also you get all these songs from across these radically different productions all given kind of the same production in which always is pleasing to the year. you get the ripper. You know the sad wings. Production values were actually very good For nine thousand. Nine hundred seventy six and for baby band with not a lot of budget but but here here you get it you know in this explosive super heavy metal hard rocking truly heavy metal version. Green alicia get on here. You get diamonds in roster fluids literally the lightest thing on here and the only light thing because after diamonds and rust you get this onslaught of songs from sad wings. Which which is you know the ban making a statement that they really like sad wings right. So you get victim of changes genocide and tyrant in a row to close off side two of the original north american vinyl of this thing this this unleashed in japan out when you know Unleashed in the east and in japan. I think it said made in japan possibly as well on it. It's too something like that. But one of the one of the cool things about this record as well. Is you know the live shot on the front is one of these staged live shots when the band is back in england so they're not in japan taking that picture and one cool thing about that shot number one. It's an amazing amazing front cover and great live shot but it always reminds me of the staged shot on kiss alive which is also one of the most iconic pictures of a band live. Ironically it's not really live but just a live shot of a band in in all their live gear. So i always thought unleashed in the east had that nice link to kiss alive which is in the hard rock world. One of the great magical live albums. But it's a double live so we're not including episode right But there you go. Those are are five. That i'm going to call the top five single live That i thought for various reasons You know You know deserve a dedication and they are different reasons for all of them but but those are five examples of Of a successful idea of doing this single and not doing it live and then always we always wonder what would have been on a double live and if they had done a double out but for these bands careers you know. This was obviously a great idea for all these bands to do this exactly the way they are. Although the pat travers like us didn't certified all right there. You go if you liked this. Show want to support future episodes. There's always my weekly. I only go up on facebook and put this up when when i put up a an episode but you can go to kofi rhymes with no fee Kofi dot com slash martin popoff and hit that red support button and by me. Cough your a pint They've got this three dollars. Things sometimes Generously people are are doubling and tripling that and all that stuff But yes. I appreciate any support you do over there and like i say i do put out this. Ask only once a week and on that front for this week. I do want to Absolutely thank carlos. A bad bruce campbell. Greg kinnear andrew clark. Scott h tim. Durling david fisher kevin latham augusta garcia. Deep raitis gino. Sega's monday and roberto vega for your kind support and fueling this episode that we are calling top. Five single live You can go to martin. Popoff dot com for your book. Needs i recently this week. Just got in a reprint of one hundred actually to be exact because they overheard me this time. They under me last time. I got one hundred sixty seven copies of the angel and within a week. I think almost half of them are gone. So if you wanted that angel book about half of those are left and i think this is the last time it's going to get a reprint I still have the thin lizzy visual biography. And the maiden trilogy. I still have about a box left of the merciful fate and about half a box left of the van. Halen unchained Various other things if you go to martin popoff dot com if there are pal buttons there. I have it with one or two exceptions. Which you know. I will email you back and say no. I don't have it anymore. There you go we will leave it there and thanks again for listening in. Go play some of these single. I've albums bond. All of our shows notes social links at www dot penfield. Podcasts dot com. Or wherever you listen to great podcasts. All songs have you found for purchase on itunes spotify or replay. Please purchase great unimportant trout on facebook at the in our. ap we are on instagram. At our our archaeology tweeted out on and our he'll.

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Have you seen the voting show. Yeh damn well. why are you going to the pressure. early Yeah have no i have not a you know. I'm not at all. Listen so you can go ahead if you want to ruin it. I mean you can now sue because they okay episodes wisdom on wednesday. So i got. That's like the only thing i did was. Hey maverick. missile. I respect you on i was on. I'm gonna make a forward to seeing you. Yeah i do you make out lady forgetting the plan. How many were so good. I'm fine. I mean knowing that's cool that's cool. That's fine but now watching show up on on so crazy. I'm not moving at thinking. Thank you see them go. Hey mike let's talk about some. I know i'm saying is watching. The show has been real motivating. The way gave picked up the two production value story. Now right it's really close to when the public starting known about tank. So a lot of the scenes you can almost relate to and think about time you've heard one thing has happened in relation to that part of the story And like i said he says movie. You know what i mean. The whole create haas's and the inner workings of the business in a show. An old like radio conferences and conferences. Like one of the people. I think it's supposed to be windy day. But they changed the name. I'll say this part of the story. Okay go home and for those of you don't know i can't talk to them trying to tell you more now you got the cheaper. Listen it just hit me in the corner. That's that's screens. I got it for those. Who don't know windy days. She's a hip hop impresario. She's been involved entry for years. And i'm trying to think that that's the person who's on. They represented in the show today as being a key player as help get on. I don't know aggravates. I could be wrong. But that's her character That characters reminded me. Okay so yeah. She's worked for house music Not retail store where our warehouse retail store. Yeah so you're just gonna repeat everything. I'm saying so you know what i'm thinking. Nothing that so. That's part of the on the story gone of yesterday's episode. But that's what i'm saying. Like i said i know the brand episode in a lot of you haven't seen it yet. Jones would up So yeah what were you gonna say though about what about music about no no one group. The first thing i thought about was we said warehouse. The first thing i thought about the way i grew some like you said well. You know this house. Oh okay it totally miss that he's gonna family I listened to us on that. You have been a part of and seeing okay. There's still your week brother. 'cause i decided said oh. We've been great bro. Really really really really really really good That's that's too many released. We'd be left many release man. It was the regulars hell to be honest with you what i do this weekend. Also go. I took the kids to The driving okay. All right so you want to go see the family to the way addams family. Okay all right so you know. Normally when i go out like i'll bring I talk the truck backwards. Put up the bring onto the lawn chairs and we do like a whole outside thing or some pizza liking kind of watch movie. I said okay. Yeah you really good time. That's a good time coming up with the father tips. Labral you welcome your pockets. Their dads and moms coupons and freebie party so's me and like it probably like five kids into adult right so i pull up to the door. He's like amazon. He said two years twenty dollars. I'd say here you go. He didn't even bro. he didn't look in the car. And i wouldn't say no sir let me stop you. There are seven of us okay. That's another way you say so here. Hey i'm gonna work for you considered high kids in the trump done that before Yes yeah absolutely. I will put a kid in trunk. Our recovery care with a blanket. Yes i whatever man. I'm just saying this is santa counter. Done it before the fat put kids in trunks. Whoa whoa whoa. Whoa i the purposes of not. No wait a minute. And don't you don't clip that part us that actually gonna sound crazy kid trunks here So you know what we need to talk about about Some music man. I wanted to talk about the versus the upcoming because that's next to seventeen seventeen big data k. Versus no. I'm sorry that's what we're supposed to happen. It was supposed to be wasn't really. That's what the people want to cambridge. Got in ten seconds but on what did you think about. That is going to be honest with you minutes. Something like i'm being hated now kinda like i always now. It is i got big daddy kane. Okay my the question is i know you gotta get to who you like. We ain't got your level of excitement versus I stated on somebody facebook. I was telling her. I was like oh this is too much new york back to back to back to back to back. It's like i wanna see. Yeah but it's and it's not a disrespect because i love those too rapids. I say that we've had a couple. Yeah one classic one lots and dips it. Yes and then we had another memorable one and then we come right back. You see what i'm saying. I was saying he. Space it out moving around with mine of the west coast one. We need another Coastal like the. I like to see or another atlanta one. I got i like to see like i like people from that city like when they're in the same city to kind of go. Yeah because i like that. That coats and everything is big up like more like wherever. Whatever location isn't that you know. What i mean is put on okay. I like that broker. What i mean. I wouldn't mind doing a Who who i dunno. I wanna see it. It's just like you said it's back to back a little overkill overkill. That's the thing if that's the name of the show but look at you. Oh that's crazy. No but oh. So you're saying kane by how many steph sabena now. I don't wanna hit twenty seven. I just i do not broke and not. Because they don't have a mini knock because they don't have them not because they don't have them talking about legends over here. I absolutely and you don't want to hear that you know what it is. I'm disappointed if there wasn't kim okay. How i'm disappointed wasn't came out. Cain okay and 'cause is wanting a monster question that's not even. That's please don't think not argument but i think i'd rather see them to okay But i like him. I come on. That shouldn't be hard. they got up before you. And that's why. I was gonna get sixty now. K still gets biz. i think. hey can't be essence. Canine how you doing splits doing worm on stage with the hat on year. None but those those are the videos you see you know. Those are the when the beatles came out quality videos. He gets busy. Busy care is gonna fucking freestyle. Have you ever seen karen. I have not listen now for the death. Like to death before you die Check it out before you die. You gotta care is one show. That's everybody you know what i'm saying and you always not my thing and think no hip hop should thing you want to see this. Listen listen you definitely want to see. Carrie i mean and this may be it. You know what. I'm saying that they do it Performance wise like that. You know what. I mean as leader an earlier poetry but anyway. That was hard. Do now that ever do that. I'm sorry but anyway So you've got care. I mean you got a king by what to get past usa eight nine six four hilarious wisc. Oh yeah that's only ten minutes. My my not excited about this iowa. Because i'm i'll be plugged in but i i kind of feel like it would have been There was there was other ones. I would rather see and i think i think new york needed to break. Yeah keep it a buck. They needed to you. Know what. I think it is tom. I'm almost convinced by doing research on this But because they've got a other partners between fight and trailer and they do these battles around Other fights so they kind of had to push out. I d i think not just for that. I think they're getting cut extra checks to do it. You know what i'm saying. So that's another reason. Why one alone x. Listen no no no. They have the box and stuff going on and to and so. This is just coming to it. You see what i'm saying copying maximizing westwood. They do it on tuesday on a seventeen saying who's well it's not it's not. I think i'm getting wrong but anyway. It's not like a week this sunday. it's sunday i'm tripping which makes it even wilder 'cause that means they going up against football. You're not being komo that that makes it a little little thrown together. Yeah so you know. We'll see if you've got somebody else cutting checks saying what you wanna do. you know. yeah put together. It is what it is ledgers going at it in real scored Let's go next week though because you got a couple of days there team seven km shit. No there's just shoot me nothing. That'll help thirteen seven. Cain became okay. Okay cool. I'm going twelve now. I was going to go lebanon next even close. Yeah i do. I i was going to separate so really no no i was gonna say i think that's a i think the performance is what's going to separate you know what i mean. So can't i think canes go perform their let him and and not cause and just what does expect no. It's not like chopping said like if you're talking about like like hip hop free stat. Like i think in carris is gonna go crazy. Yeah it wasn't never caring thing. He's that little genius like metaphor simply go crazy right. Think that canes gonna get out there and fucking dance and you don't always get confused together and sorry i'm not gonna from tangent like father. Mc and big daddy kane. You look so similar to me for some reason father mc and big daddy kane flops. Maybe the flattop before before they got named him a pants regular pants yeah Gop said fourteenth six care is father mc you got confused care as one. I mean big data gay. I used to just like the base address. The head cuts like similar to what you're saying. Yeah queens hand stop. Excuse me iraq. Now if only we had hip hop pioneers like run. Dmc and my baggio defending that job absolutely nicotine cocaine got at least ten guarantee and to me would be wrong. Wow but now. i'm looking forward to it. So that's how i was gonna ask oxford onto that. Who do you want to see that two left. I would like to see where i can't now. I don't know who would go against elo not l. o. Smoking and i love rock. Hello smoking like people like l. accounting. No like i don't wanna see even goten. The anthony by outta liked him in boston outer liked knocking into that. I was gonna say jamie foxx because we've already seen o. K. tried it. Oh don't let that lights get negative food. Muggy look at you now you wanna wanna represent all right but not is so somebody somebody. I wouldn't mina. okay okay. The cuban easy win advocate. I think people would just really be maybe i. Maybe because i'm older. I got cube really got some shit. Hate him fucking wreck still exists tippers. Little wing yeah now waiting for that you like that. I like tipping win okay. That'll work speaking of way. That would go music this week. Hey look to look at it every now and then every now and then music year hasn't been a week not tomorrow be a week. We so wayne drop with a mix tape. I'm glad to actually use the words mixed wayne in Richard which is kid risque. Did you listen to it. I actually listened to it is nice. We gotta come back to that. Oh i go ahead this. I wanna queens. Yeah yeah what'd you think of it I actually really liked this mic. Rarely now i really did. I ain't gonna like i like. I actually enjoyed it. I'm not even gonna hold you like that was a better first of all. It was ten zones. Oh right in your pocket so salute to yo salute. Ten songs of you who don't know on this This rampage baptist to make every album. I only say that because your time is limited. And you won't be able to. I just don't want like us enough okay. it's enough man. I trust fund. Babies did name some babies like that. That's i that's a good project that like. That is a really good project. I ain't going to lie back. Playable i mean replay like you can go like you said that night. Yeah me too. I wouldn't actually listened to it with my nose already turned up before. I even came on queens guys. No you know you're look at it and you're like oh let me put this shit on so i could at least be give a realistic take on what i think about it and i put it on and i was like how many i'm sorry. Go ahead is actually pretty this. How how many times listen twice. Listen a couple more mass. Hate this job you from queens anyway. C. whitney agrees which he has a point. They're making them out of the products to walk. So what's your favorite song on or songs cecelia's is You know i'm terrible zone. Grow number one. You play number three threes. What happens i know. They should be hilarious. Played his detract. thereto bro. Like nobody knows that my guy is somebody said to me the other day they said it was. It was all talk about certify loverboy. Dj and bq week and he was like. Why would anybody that. Of course that trek they excellent yell. I i forget but thank you. It's the part where they break down and it switches to another beat and you look at them like this a and i look at it like that but the thing was because i had to. I know exactly what he was old. That one oh. I hope that one. But there's always going to love that. I like shish like a big boss i like. Yeah yeah but they got a couple of wrecks. I think it's actually pretty directly. Say to one. What's the one admitted and is the one that's the one yeah played that. Let's play that last. One man went over to me. I haven't been to new new which you gotta put him onto it. Yeah i love breaking deep inside the album video. Nothing like that. You know what i mean. That's a good project though. Saluda little caveman i i. I've heard little wayne on something in a wild. And i was like okay so so you're not dead so you're buying into that little win this that so blessed i was about to say a little. He's been resurrected some about your hair still throws me off for some reason. Oh she just look hinge noble. Bring it back. Yeah no shit. Little ole mapa some nationalist yellow. Oh minister versus you know. That's bronx mixed eight. They might may he rest. This is this is pretty close though runs. Yes he he went through i. La diversity did on on drug problem with project. He went crazy and ross. He would comment on the that record. I like the baby. The baby versus crazy. but what. what's that only okay. He went crazy on necker. He actually sounded good and on on a record that i didn't want him to be on. Was ooh la la. Like i don't know a year later. Well you know cove. I got it but he went crazy. So maybe he's maybe he's getting back in shape. Something changed some different. I will say that is very accurate. Shane he's not the same got four minutes. I don't know i didn't want another twelfth. Maybe you know you've got to start. I just for a minute. There almost regret and seeing him on it. Because it's like that. Should feel like jordan wizards a second. Yeah like i don't wanna see this. That's not my like. I know we get twenty. That's now do you. Do you wanna see lebron planet. Thirty nine halloween. Switzerland a bryant. He's a physical by own three. And i forgot about that. Yeah 'cause i only jumped to drake's verse but anyway no done. He had a nice sixteen on it but So goofy them. Yeah good for wing. can we can we. Can we get into philly. Can we do philly flair while while we. I'm just saying get to championship. Part to just drop. We wish it was that he had a meek problem. Project trump albums right. Now go ahead. I like this expensive pain. That was here Your intro i did i. I like the flip. Do you like. Obviously my laptop. Say you know like she's so. Dj some respond. I like the reaction. I liked the intro. I will say this though. I wish it wasn't the intro. Because normally like meek is known for the crazy ass intros and you don't think they fit the bill. I like record. I don't want it to be an intro. i'm confused. I'd only inches two me so like eventful. That's like this isn't any. It'll be flipped row off crews. Come on right so tell me what. Tell me what else you like. Really like off this. 'cause i listened to it. I'm the honest. Which are and i like me kim fans to bail myself. I yeah please go ahead. I'm listening to me really. Yeah it sounded like Founded like he was doing What chicago not g. Herbert not herbal her own shoe. He signed dirk it. Sound real dirty over killian durkee. That's what it sounded like a real like dirk album. I know what the problem is. What's that eighteen tracks. That's making me go fucking eighteen song. I'm saying besides young. She's a like this to me. I don't think it was. It wasn't bad. I like like we always talk about libya. We compare them to obtain other projects. Right like to meet champions was like championships. Championships was like dan. This is like this is a great fucking body of work like this is right. This is amazing. Okay even girl rookie tried on there. I the rafi kalani man. Y'all it's going to be hit. It's not foyer it's not for us. I'm gonna say ella mae record wasn't i and that was tough. You don't think this ain't that they think this ain't that i so how many times you listen to me to be honest with you. I listen to whatever. I went to a one time is eighteen tracks. She took a minute. Y'all respectfully i should took a second. I wrote to that The weekend at least four or five times. Okay so you got to fool myself. So maybe i'm awful listened. So what do you have eighteen tracks. I'm gonna go ten. Ten ten is worth ten to twelve. Okay oh yeah. That's a big number. I mean eighteen something different so you say if someone put out a on z richard off him. Somebody put out a project and you only tended to track. That's like less than that's more than fifty percent but less than like seventy percent. I think you call it a good project. Or what if fifty percents. I'm just being honest. I've said it was made. This isn't but i'm confused. What you call it a project but it still made is not good to me. I'm sorry my you what it is and bright so compared to championships. How about that. So i don't think i think it was. It was decent but it was made compared to that. But you still think it was good. It was that wasn't true. You know my thing is wasn't trash list. It wasn't trash. I just think for him and he could do better respectively. I think it sounded real like real dirty as i said before. What does that mean. That means like the extra auto tune like necas. Nice internet like on some songs. Yes on mad songs. Nam good like that's not what i wanna hear meek mill do. I'm sorry i don't wanna headed. It's like if you're comparing him to but like somebody of that caliber collegue and they just make the whole album net. That's like when we first saw that he was a nas has done that what he's doing. And how did that. Go our kicks my point. That's not you kinda like the fear we had when we see them doing the hip where i was like manny. She could go let turkey go ahead. I'm listening. I just read had trashes the thing me. Yeah let him off the hook. No let me run it down to a wreckage that and plus you got four listens in so i respect. I got one. So i i might be off looking album. You know it's cool. I think we started james. You'll j what should i do. I do make basquiat awhile. And everything today some allow. It does right so two inches of course so basically the first time songs right. Well no because in show outside on my soul sharon locations. Then go to do this then. I got the wreck referred regular money dope money moneybag actually with a lesson. I say i like that. So i'm like six already So maybe my mom. Then you've got blue notes jumping down the number fourteen blue to I ain't like angels dedication is meant to lose snoop but i was just like i ain't feeling and then you got flavors even halo is cool. So it's cool. It's not one of the ones that stands like gigs. Verse on northside southside. I do like his name. Miss expensive pain. Is you do like that. That's that's my favorite record on besides the intro like that's probably my expensive pain is really good. Well written just different. Jp saab agreements because album. Sounds it does. I will give you that. I will say that it is definitely a miki out here that i'm doing it so the reason why i can't say similar because if if i if i was eating similar the little name album sounds very similar ladders off. I couldn't make it. Sounds listened to. I listened to four thousand dollars item. W like i'm picking up my songs as finish my going back. Taliban would object. It definitely feels like Like a record. You're to get into a dope boycott and like he just going to let iraq i. I think it's just going to let this shit go office. You've been in a call. A day is four times already talked to go put like this. And i think this is an awesome time I think he had different motivation. Coming out with championship so this credit. I'm saying i shot the bank. You know what i'm saying. So it's time he made up with his. Bff him and drink was called again us. Happy to see that when that happened. I was very hatches bro. Right and not and that's not correct So i think he's. I agree with you on this eighteen too many. He could easily cut this down to fourteen. Which i think to twelve. Nah nah i need full projects on mckee. He has a pattern going of delivering quality. Inaudible i wanna see keep going like that. She it up hang up brother So that's i will say about that. I think it's definitely house good championships. But it's some meek project. He's doing little more of changing the flow right and as far as on a digi aspect this like six or seven georgia. You know what i'm saying. If feel comfortable doing it. Mrs served sleep. We got to put a number on it. Of course you always got what you got. What's the scale of five now. Ten is way too much. You know what i like to do was that were no. That's a different. That's the thing about five makes as well and that's the one two three. How about that. We're not doing no one two three because your profile. Oh i want to give it to you. Get hasn't caught. His wife came up with the one four. And a half hats you do. The math comes gave. No he says maybe unfair. But i'd rather have more grit than the auto tune melodies agree. This is a few too. Many of those is the latin media. But it still. I get it so i think he's is he trying to just reach out. Because that's what's that's the algorithm say. Go crazy on those type of records. Not because if if he's gonna algorithms and he's not making minute so homes and has no but like those those auto tony records of the ones that go those. Don't want those are the ones that get get requested. Those are the ones that get the most youtube foods and most streams. Those are the ones that get it. So it's like or make a bunch of these mixed gonna do that anyway though. He's an upper tier of prime artist right now. I don't think he has to do that. That's what i'm saying. So i don't think he has to do that. And that's the part that kind of like jp. What does that three and a half out of five. I appreciate emojis. Jp the extra work three out of five is so okay. We say for me. Is that mitt or that considered me. I'm asking i consider consider three me. What would you put it in at out of five. Would you give it. I would do for do before. I do it. Three and a half okay. Three point five the other point five is me being a fan. You know what i'm saying. So i'm a fan. That's what i've heard. I was like you know this is not enough. This is not enough of what i want to hear from meek mill man. I was calling three thousand percent disagreed. That's how i wish was early. He was had to get off for second. Everyone three and half easy. What i'm saying said it was a little baby album as told by meek mill. See i was giving them during throw. That's how i felt like. Oh this i feel like this is not a meek better than this man i got sorry my bad for hold them up. This high standard my apologies. No don't do that. So boxing for no reason cooling share locations record. I'm assuming that song. Have you listened to the structure of the song. I hear it how they go. I don't want them going back and forth. They went back back. Same mcneil not sound like mcmillan those records that record so as little as little dirt little baby and now he's not but that was me baby dirt low baby little neak baby dirt. This is too much todd. Mcqueen's the ball not expect outside the energy. You and i should like that should have how you. That's that's what you put on with wounded a bench and it's definitely actually how you don't fucking four forty five round kind of new shoes off. I if you go to the gym and not take shoes off now out out. Get out the way nine. You understand real real fitness. People know explain. Explain explain issues stategy in. It's better. it's better for you on your back when you're doing squats right because you have better form using you get to focus more on using your diagnosis. Your quads And keeping your back straight. So it's better for them and it's just better for you and you lift more that way to you. Welcome welcome clause decent about that. Joe man high school about divvy that we were. That's not what. I was flaming becoming way. Do common gift inmates with a recording studio in illinois prison. You hit us. Know gotta can help foster new breed of rapids and pledge chicago inmates with new recreational activity by building a recording studio in illinois prison. Bishop was good family. Read that last one more time. Because i want you to repeat that because he's doing this in a state facility. Yeah okay in his home state. Okay all right so It's a look what they're gonna do with a twelve week course so Excuse me he's unaffiliated. It's at the state correctional center. It's going to be a twelve week course in by. I just thought like this looking at it. I was kamchad. Moroccan correction doesn't india To the glory. Ron crop the rappers. Nonprofit imagine justice may to get a chance to take a twelve week course in music production in creating as well as recording. The program will also help. The inmates get time off their sentences so bars or bars. That would have been a way a name behind boss. No because again less time so bars. Four bars always open boss komo keys. Open komo key. I'm sorry but komo because the idea of it is I actually don't know. I thought about giving people something to do. I don't mind you know that should go crazy especially sitting down that fucking box also offered. Yeah sorry a little flashback. Okay a little bit but not get rid of trump immediately but now salute. The common man actually does that is. Do you know what i'm hearing. go. Because i'm retarded. I'm going to say that. come with it. I'm saying if you need studio tom. Do a crime discussed. Do not do that. There are children listening. Don't be responsible when you're not you're better than that man. I'm just saying yet. Another example of giving back. But i'm just saying little. I said aubrey hip hop giving back. Yes it is what he sees. Oh well with this new angle. Oh you ain't bring me someone. Thank you america. What else you got okay. Flicks how university create four point. Five million dollars. Chad with bozeman. Scholarship heard about that one digit. All right. that's how university have established a four point five million dollars scholarship in honor of the black panther. We should legally changes name chat with champions monday october for lead actress. I'm a modern now to chretien. Child bobick chadwick bose memorial scholarship which will cover the cost of the how university tuition for incoming students in our college of fine arts. Figured out going. Yeah it should. I mean that's it was going to a fucking football player. That's there's no way that was his major which you know how it is is is well known and rightfully so yesterday Homecoming which was about to say yes. That is what is known for o v. o. What is this rank on. A list of things held is known for like fifth. I'm i'm all for it. I just you know i guess i'm good. How do you know again there are children. Listen to this part and are there should be better influence. I didn't do anything. I didn't not to that man. We we always love like especially likes luna in shannon and giving money and all that good shit tell them jail but now man. I thought that was. Don't wanna talk about me. Yes you try flight king. This is not accurate. I gotta find. It is nuts. Hold on hold on now since hughes no got this week also cannon but do you have to give a group of eight. abc's students surprise of a lifetime. That's what i wanted to talk about. Oh shit okay. No nick cannon saying oh oh candy you know he had another kid damn can i finish my candy now. Dan fuck you wait before you say. Go home nick. Cannon said his nervous told him to practice celibacy for the rest of twenty twenty and he is taking on the challenge. That's what i wanted to talk about something. Go i respect the fact that you really cold it out as being that. It's not joe get you i. Can everybody hear me. I just want to Shining for and one of the recipients of that wonderful payoff was missy. A you gonna show out to the thirty third queen of clark university illustrious clark in there alert just sean how we do and homecoming is coming up october. Thirty be there to see the football team. Whatever they do. But i don't care. You know their mighty marching panther homecoming on halloween halloween sunday. Though games on the thirty but all the all the good events happening on the game is just you know whatever. I just like yellow. Just kinda sean in another word he when morehouse say no. We're canceling hours. We can't we can't speak for our brothers and sisters over respect their homecoming his next week. You know they wanted to do what they need to do for them. We stay right but rounding out the end of the month of october. Come on over to the great side of their. Ucla university tied up. You know china done. are you done. That was important. Glad you said she weekend. I always consider myself have you alumnus anyway. we've been on that killed. Listen will they be because manila. What halloween cities homecoming show anyway. All right can we get back to what i wanna talk about. Do you think recap recap. Do you think it makes sense that you know celibacy for whatever reason i think is great but for his therapist to recommend him told you celibacy. Great told you that it's a good thing in theory for the person for the individual. Who told you that i'm just saying no they'd be lying. I'm sorry guys he was being. You know we're looking to tear that mccain has been on this twins another baby. They're like days apart weeks apart. Had another kid to other kids early this year So he's up to like six seven something like that notices nothing. I mean as we. Nick is very well personal perverse perverse in taking care of. That's not the issue. It's the matter who you know. He said i read a quote. He said nano accidental. So he shot up all clubs. I'm just saying that that that. That's what the man says. I'm talking about nick. Buckle backing out of his garage as you good your thoughts on that. The grip money makes slow down a little bit notice waiting till october police. Bush probably said october. I just did the math count. Hey hey easy. I bet. it's the way from. They can say. I like well play job him. He running wild. Yes and out. Orient dicko geico from anti-government disagree. Anyone saw so what do you think. What are they nice. What would they say couldn't be me when be me now. I'm all set with that shit. I'm saying you got to you could see doing three more. Come on three my. What kids bro. Come over is no. 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Episode 56: Killy Killy Bang Bang

Tommyknockin: Skeleton Cruisin'

28:59 min | 2 months ago

Episode 56: Killy Killy Bang Bang

"Timing assured dropped. I don't think myself. I ever being by snatchers. Skunk luck might be gary. We're in this together. Just vote power. The gods trash talk tonight. Got the art opening next week. What's going on in your life. Elisa what's going on in the my life elisa pretty much the same as last week. I still haven't bought a car. But i am one week closer to my visit to missoula and i'm really excited for that. Like really fucking excited. Yeah it's gonna be exciting to record some episodes in person for the first time in years. It'll be it'll be fun. I'll definitely have to clean my room before that. I saw like i'm going to be sleeping in it. Shout out to sugar if you're listening. He's not the bed okay. That's okay. I am excited mostly for you and i had to have our dorky late nights because you took off a lot of time that week so i don't have to feel bad about staying up watching spin guli with you. We are going to have so much fun. Oh it's going to be amazing. There's so much missoula food. That i miss like i'm gonna front. Yeah honestly like you so going to do after lunch downtown tonight. And i'm excited to see all the food tricks that cropped up while i was away i have no comment about their quality because i'm employed by the organization that hosts those events. That is fair. I'm just excited. I'm excited to see missoula night again. I wished i was visiting when there is snow. But you know what whatever well. We don't have snow but will probably have ash falling from the sky by the time that you get here. Yeah it's like snow on the more carcinogenic. I'll just plug my nose and pretend just close your nose. Open your mouth but your tongue outs and have a piece of ashfall right on it. You got a couple of shows before. And after that visit yeah. I'm i'm pretty busy assuming that we don't get locked down again Which who knows. I guess maybe all visit and we just can't go anywhere that yeah. Maybe that's what exactly will happen that way at at least save money. It's like by car a little bit faster. Yeah probably but hey. If you're looking to buy a car. I tell you though you gotta be careful. You don't want you know first of all to be sold a lemon. And secondly you don't wanna be sold a stephen king evil car either. Christine christine or a maximum. Overdrive if you will. But i will refer you to the best car sales person that i know. Hi gary welcome to tommy knock in season three skeleton crews cruising doing the crews and dance doing the hot smoky weather crews in dance. That's right we're getting prepared for another meeting of the world. Shittiest book club. It's me problematic. Save charleena corn. And i'm elisa. Oh so proud of you. Gary on your new job car sales folk yeah. Is this all commission. Gary is this all you get like daily wage an hourly wage or is it all based on the number of numbers number of cars. You move. maybe gary gets paid in cars. Sell a car get a car. Then you just that car that would be good and then you get another car for selling that car plus all the money that you got for it short. That would be nice. That's a great idea. But what's not a great idea. Is our way through. Stephen king's over a one chapter at a time. I think it's a fantastic idea. It was just a transaction into the show. It was just a transition into it. I'm sorry charlie. Please continue transitioning i will. Ain't nothing gonna stop me now. Gary i know you didn't hear that but we both looked at the camera which doesn't exist. We both winked at the same time as well. So we're reading a stephen king skeleton crew specifically the short story. Uncle autos truck elisa. What did think of this story. I really enjoyed this story. It was a little too long. It was a little too long to pulpy. But i liked you. Know the rise and fall of this millionaire whether he got there through strategic means or nefarious means. I it was an odd one and it still has me questioning. did you let it. Does i mostly dan. There's definitely some stuff that i'm going to address that at this point in the show which is sad that we have to keep talking about it but to explain to area at home or in their car. They're selling to get a new car. I think we'll just recount the plot real quick in the we able to jump around so uncle. Otto's truck is a written letter much like we've had some previous exiting the last race survivor type. It's someone writing down the story of something spooky. That happened to them in. This case is the story of their uncle otto. Who was a bit older than the protagonist who made a lot of money through savory and sometimes unsavory means. I want to say that it's ott. Oh auto not auto as an autozone. Oh yeah that would have been. Actually i was always picturing those auto man from the simpsons. Yeah but like him as an old man with the bus out in the field. Come into kill him. So many overweight white man with bald head and duguay bearden met in my life mccain wearing just suspenders. Exactly uncle auto. He's kind of a weird guy. The people in town progressively think that he stranger and stranger mainly because he may have killed his business partner by knocking a broken down truck on top of him. The economists uncle otto's truck. This truck is broken down on the field and may have been used as a murder weapon and now either due to evil or possession retribution. Or just it's all in his head. This truck is maybe getting closer and closer to the house. Runkel auto is until eventually Kills uncle auto by filling him full of motor oil which is pretty adorable to imagine what that would look like. And oh yeah just like a broken down truck like bent-over inside this this bedroom just like pouring oil into the sleeping man's mouth it's adorable plugging it with a spark plug with a spark plug taste of it in my mouth. Not my favorite. But hey teach their on. Yeah i only put oil in my mouth if it's been infused with something if you know what i'm saying and i think you do took me a minute. Yes not motor oil. Coconut oil Speaking of coconuts this sort of drives the nephew a little batty. Because maybe you know the truck is evil. He had a pretty scary experience it when he was a kid and yeah maybe that truck killed his uncle and maybe it's still out there in that field hungry for blood waiting for more hungry hungry. Hippo i think also part of the reason that i think we've probably get into this now I want to explain. Where was it. I o from rome. Ooh that sounds really tough. So this story. Uncle autos truck originally appeared in the october. Nineteen eighty-three addition of yankee magazine is a have you ever heard of yankee magazine. Dandy i have not. So yankee magazine was the magazine of new england for decades and decades and decades to started publishing in the nineteen thirties at its very peak. It was in the millions of readers across new england and the country in the nineteen eighties and it was also about things that happened. In in new england It has century branded now to the much. More appropriately named new england dot com. Now it's online. It's new england today but yeah a magazine all about new england and in fact on the cover of this issue. There's no tax. It's just the title yankee magazine and then a painting of some ducks. No other words. No new story by stephen king just like pastoral new england. Same nineteen eighty-three. He was only mildly popular. He was pretty popular them. Pretty big by that point. And i guess that explains like how much of the story is sort of built around like main culture that gas station culture that we had in Mrs todd's wild ride a few episodes earlier. But boy. And i want to get into this now and we talked about this a lot. Jesus christ the casual racism in this. Jesus fucking christ. It does not stop or in so many of the stories. It's been that way so it's kind of lead blood together. Where is it here. So this is the one where every time they refer to any one of the muslim faith they refer to them as a. I'm not going to repeat it because the first time it happened. My thought was okay. Small town main bigotry but then literally every time that Muslim people are repeated. Is like one of those repetition things that stephen king does. It's always like oh yeah like those blank blank blank and that's super fucked up like it just kept happening. It was at that point where i wanted to to like. I understand that. Racism is a part of small town life. I get that i recognized. This was written in the eighties. It was a different different time. But it was still shitty then and it still shooting now and i wish that we could get through one story without just an awful generalization or stereotype of a whole group of people. Yeah and i think it's important to say that representation of like the way that things really are accurate. Representation is important to appoint. You don't need to go overboard with it exactly. And i'm not saying that there needs to be like a full tree on the understood in the fiction of this story with a venture like poor ass main hillbillies getting killed by a car. I don't need like a deep treaties on race and religion. But i like some understanding that you know like you said awful thing. We're stephen king just didn't realize that there must have been muslim people reading his work. At that time you know the way they talk about native american people in this book the way that you talk about women i think especially in this book and again this was a longtime ago he has evolved. He has completely changed life. And we're not trying to you know. Put him on blast or say that he's a bad person for this. We're saying that it is tough as a reader recognizing now the larger sort of beauty of diversity of the world to read this old ass and just have all of this racist shit just chapter after chapter and this old story. Where the focus is you know. White guy just hustles. Real hard becomes a millionaire based on real good decisions and real good placement and then it ends up driving him a little bit crazy in the end. It's like a boomer fairytale kinda like complete with scary endings and considering the boomer in question will not that. He's a boomer. But still considering the protagonist dies in a failed one room schoolhouse which was a plot point that i really enjoyed because i think that he strayed because he built this one room schoolhouse at like in like nineteen seventy five or something when education they said was well underway in like they had a pretty good system and they didn't need it and he's just like all right. Guess all live in it. I did like that to that level of separation because sometimes like with old people especially with money. I know what happened to me a lot as a kid like old people would talk to me and i'd be like i have no basis a reference. For what what you're referring to another thing that really stood out to me. Page four seventy five in my book charlie. Do you know what. I'm allama gustavus. I don't but does this mean no it doesn't it doesn't know read it in context please As a five year old who still believed in santa claus and the tooth fairy and the allama goose ghulam. I also believe that the bad scary feelings which swans me when my father boosted into the cab of the truck came from the truck. So it's some sort of atavistic. Now it's it is some sort of creature. But when i google it. It's all stephen king related or it's also a science fiction short story by english author. Eric frank russell but i don't know supernatural creatures. I've never heard of allama. Gaza earn allama. Goose ghulam never heard of it before so interesting. I'm looking up. Eric frank russell. And he's a writer. Who predate stephen king. So it's possible. This is a monster from one of his stories. That there's like a fun like cool reference like nerdy. stephen king put his favourite. Oh here we go his short story all of you suppose nineteen fifty five originally published in astounding science fiction magazine. Here's hey here's the second. Where was it i Boom boom boom may nineteen fifty five of astounding thing The plot summary is get won the hugo award for best short story. It was called a very funny story. While preparing for inspection the crew of a starship read their manifest discover. They're supposed to have something called an ogg however nobody knows what it is. They devise a plan to pass the inspection anyway. But the plan backfires. So it's a funny short story and so i guess it was some sort of reference to to that stephen king Shoveled in there which yeah pretty cool next week for more half ass research facts. That's my fault for not rejecting it. Only having a question in my notes. I didn't like look that up. Because i'm like this will be vocabulary this week. I don't this will be the word of that. No it isn't. I must say though that the strange way that uncle outta died caused me to have a certain reaction did i. I don't want to mess this up again elisa. I don't wanna ask twice if this is wrong. So i'm just going to vaguely say out there. Noncommittally does this mean it absolutely does vocabulary. Ayalon allama goose aside. This is this week's vocabulary and it actually. This word showed up on the very first page in like the first in the first few paragraphs this is the word grew. And i'm not talking about the despicable me protagonist. Although i'm pretty sure that you know his name is probably based on. This word grew means to shudder in fear as in gruesome. Oh i have never heard that before. I haven't either. But that makes total sense for that. Fictional steve carell character though. Yeah exactly exactly. God i love grew and i love vocabulary. This was a short one and especially with the allama jerusalem but that is how it goes grew. And that's this week's vocabulary cathy. Garry all right first of all great jingle second of all a great vocabulary like are some vocabulary that i feel like like a write in one ear and out the other and there's some that stick around the add this one is short and to the point. I mean it's just like all all these words from our remember this word and then i never do for like atavistic. Flew flew. v8's because there's a couple of words from like i'm gonna use this. And i will use the word grew. I assume it's a verb or an adjective. I didn't and it is a verb to shudder in fear but of course. Oh accordingly yeah. She gruden fear. She grew in fair growing right now. Baby so here's what. I would like to sort of sort of pause here. Is that so. This is of course a a stephen king story about a killer car. But it's like an old like it's like an old man car like it's broken down in a field. It's doing its thing but it still has the tower. It is a truck. That's right but i was wondering if we could try to connect some sort of like family tree of killer killer cars and trucks and stephen king fiction you mentioned maximum overdrive and then christine is a given. What else like his uncle. Autos truck like christine's like grandpa for example or grandma. I don't know i'm wondering capacitors uncle in the name. It could be a lady truck is so there's the trucks name uncle autos truck boy that brings up a lot of questions about like identity and ownership that. I don't know if i really have the the brain power to really set up but yeah think every vehicle unless you name it. Something else just refers to itself as Oh this is. This is an charlie's car or or this is. This is and steve's car it doesn't really break down and her uncle sometimes because it doesn't understand gender the way that we do so they just kind of choose haphazardly. Most the time that it fits but sometimes it does. Not gender side gender acknowledged. I like that the spirits that drive these because a big part of these vehicles are that they are good at committing crimes without getting caught and so whatever sentences inside of them confers so that the truck has this way that he killed uncle auto spitting oil through the window and pretty sure and then plugging it up with that spark plug all without spilling a drop or making any scene and then those christine who will like plow into a gas station and kill five combined racers and then fly away. She's very much like to bang bang. Yes exactly kili kili bang bang and she's but she bang bang. She's very much the spoiled teenager who just got her powers under control and doesn't exactly know what to do with them just knows that she's going to change the world for better for worse or as uncle more refined and good at hiding so i can see the hierarchy there. How does the green goblin truck for maximum overdrive fit into this. Okay hear me out. I think that's that's christine's dad. Yeah yeah so as uncle otto's truck. Her grandfather or uncle who great uncle like in this story is just like an old uncle that someone has so could potentially. If it's her dad's uncle then it would be the green goblins or maybe her mystery mother. But yeah understood. So why why is why is green goblin christine's dad i think that christina's really trying to do her own thing. She's really trying to prove herself but she has the sort of like looming specter of the sixteen. Tom green goblin truck. Who's trying to kill. Leo estevez too. Yeah and i think you the green goblin truck you know is kind of like a stern like standoffish father but is like super proud that christine starting to john carpenter movie like you're the best that he could ever do was a stephen king movie directed by the time line is not adding up here right gary but this we don't listen car car sex car. Procreation is a complicated time traveling issue. So don't come at me with your your theories about one movie coming before the other one. Maximum overdrive truck is clearly christine's father. This is the content you get when you get to people who don't really give a shit about cars and a story that's about cars and trucks. That's exactly right. But gary feel free to come at us with any question or any answer you got for past t. pox and future. Qna episode tommy knocking potted gmail.com. Come at me gary. If you want to listen to podcasts. About stephen king and cars maybe change your name to cari. How about that kerry. Is that anything i said it was going to make sense and be funny and maybe rhyme but it came out of my mouth. It did not. I thought you were saying like the like the book carey. I thought that's what you were going for. That was one of my fears that that would be what do interpreted as well lineages side. I think it's time that we steer this fear over to the t. Pock side of things unless you have anything else for this story. I don't because as we know it is deepak o'clock what he got for me. My tee for you charlie. What would you have used the rejected one room schoolhouse for well one. I liked the idea of living in it. Rent free although. I sure would like to have a toilet in it. Which i think is the funny thing where he built this place but didn't put a toilet and when there was like the sixties and we're like no we not only do we have bathrooms their Their desegregated a big step back to pooping in the woods. Which even he wouldn't do like my actually things about the stories he would go out. And just like pee in front of the highway. Shaken it what i would do is that i would use it as a school. I would open up the charlotte. Mma corn finishing school where. I could charge outrageous tuition to have young people. Come to be finished sure. Okay okay disgusting. Tell i think you need to clarify finishing. Oh yeah i would kill them. I would kill all of them would be dead. That's a lot more morals. No of course not of course. Not of course not. I'm talking about bringing these these nubile. Eighteen year olds and then giving them orgasms finishing. No i'm just kidding. That would be terrible. And and educator should never do that i would. Actually it'd be like all right. Here's how to function in society here. Not just like in the bullshit way. The lot of finishing schools are like. Here's how to walk with books on your head or here's how to know what silverware to us is going to be like. Here's how to win in a knife. Fight shakeup it. Here's how here's how to pack a single bag for a three day comedy road trip. I would teach people how to do their how to do. A mom voice. I get by alumni mom voice. Let's go. I'm working on developing a mom voice of my own. It's very useful. We'll develop it and then you can teach it in your finishing school. Yeah so that's That's what i would do a totally weird thing and not the to gross things and i joked about earlier. Leterrier mine into a her petroleum. Oh full of snakes and herpes gotta teapot for me baby. Ideally poor you this Tall cool glass of iced tea pot. 'cause the story was so scary. Hit me with that tall hot cold. Short tepeyac puck elisa. My teapot for you. Is this so in. The story are protagonist. Who has a name. But it's mentioned like halfway through the story. And i've already forgotten. It tells a story about being in the truck when he was five years old. And it's scaring him. Was there ever anything in your childhood that your parents were like. Oh yeah she's gonna love this but it scared the absolute crap out of you. First off the protagonist is named quentin. He is twenty six years old and at the end of the story. He wears a suit and in ascott. I'm pretty sure Let's see no one. The first memory that comes to mind. Was this time that my mom we were all stacking wood which is a big thing in upstate. New york and my mom. Knowing i was terrified of daddy long legs shoved a log with a big fat daddy long league in it and my face and was like look allies daddy long leg and then immediately realized oh this is bullying because i like burst into tears and ran and then she like immediately apologized and that was a really big moment for me and my mom because that wasn't an emotional connection that we have been able to make easily before so there's that thing that my mom thought would be funny but ended up scaring the piss outta me other than that. I can't think like i was real little. There are a lot of things that you know. They my dad. Thought i would get kidnapped at the park or you know. I'm sure they thought. I would get lost in the woods. Because i was in the woods a lot but i ended up having fun with it but not not the other way around. Mostly just the spider in the face thing. What about you. Oh this is not about me by remember. My brother and my dad took us to the circus and there was like an elephant ride like you could go and like get on and i remember like being in line and being like oh this is kind of this is way higher up than you can ever imagine being a kid and the kid next to me. losing their fucking mind. They were so terrified. They were just screaming on the back of this elephant. That's the closest thing But that's not even about about me one. My mom dumped a huge bag of rubber. Fake bugs on me from behind. While i was watching tv. I don't know why she did this but it was definitely a very much like. Oh they're fake like it was. It was shocking that something was happening. They were bugs and then it was fake. I remember like that feeling like oh wait now this is. I don't know why she did that on. Your mom's goofy. I love your mom. But that's such a non your mom thing to do which even get a bag of fake bugs. I'm not even sure. I don't even know. She bought me. She bought them for her school or for crafting or something and thought i don't. I'll do the whole prank. My up stuff on my impressionable emotional. Let's see what happens. Every mom is a bag of bugs. Elisa well i would say. Those are both pretty thought provoking. I think so. And at the end of the chapter yes and now. The end of the podcast. We pivot into the ad reads. Did you just swallow a bag of bugs that she wished she had health insurance or even had your taxes and finances straightened out because look at yourself. You swallowed a beta bugs. Yeah maybe you had an eccentric. Rich uncle died. Who left you a bunch of money and a one room schoolhouse. What do you do with that money. Who can guide you into the proper field is rhythm insurance. That was a very long walk for a very short reward. Short reward being a bag of bugs rhythm and sheridan's can take care of your financial needs. Get everything straightened out open. Enrollment is coming up. Also some health insurance Get at them I have health insurance from it and now look at me. I'm so healthy. Now he's doing great doesn't even care about bugs. Analysts say the you started an instagram. all about eq. Theology is fish all about entomology etymology all about bugs or you could do etymology and be about vocabularies and the origin of words vocabularies or vocabulary. Spiders in the mess. So you son. Hermes can be there and take care of everything the way that they take care of our social media. Take a peek. it's great yeah the killer job. Thanks sarasin hermes. You can contact them From the description of this year email episode at the end of this here episode not an email. That's a different thing. That's an email though. Gary at tommy not confined jameel dot com to get into our next. Qna episode which is coming up is. This book is almost over. We've also got a main attractions coming up and one quick personal plug Camp horror film festival is coming august. Twenty six twenty seventh and twenty eighth in missoula montana at the historic roxy theater. Come come hang out. Watch some short films from emerging filmmakers and watch me host a screening of sleep away camp. Because that's going to be hilarious. I won't be there for it. But i think it'll be a great time. You should definitely visit. Gary follow charlie on all social media's to see you can see all the pretty pictures follow me. I don't care it's more of a family thing Totally fair anything else to add. 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Remède contre l'anxiété!

La piste du Lycaon

05:06 min | 3 months ago

Remède contre l'anxiété!

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Travel WITH Stephanie Abrams_Show ID 1751

Travel WITH Stephanie Abrams!

39:11 min | 6 months ago

Travel WITH Stephanie Abrams_Show ID 1751

"Welcome to travel with stephanie abrams. Well i'm thrilled. You're with us. Our and i want to remind you that if you missed any part of today's show where you have to leave us before this hour is over. Remember you'll find everything. Podcast at your favorite podcast or or go to s abrahams dot net. You'll find links to the podcasters. You'll find a archived audio of each show so if you want to hear it just streaming click on the archives shows if you want to download it take us with you. Go to the podcasts and if you're driving and you drive out of the range of your favorite radio station Make sure that you Tune-in to the podcasts and the archived audio so you don't miss anything You know i've been talking about the fact that for the most part at the moment Our passports aren't good for much And aside from our passports not being good for much. I think we have a And civic obligation to do our best to support the travel industry in the us Some of the finest places are suffering miserably over the last thirteen months and I remember having on the air with me back in. I'm gonna say june or early. July twenty twenty when we were still in ireland court in the lockdown for we were in ireland for five months in twenty twenty I'm not complaining about it. I it was a marvelous experience. Frankly but i had a. We continued to produce radio and television and online features the entire time. And i had on the air with me chip rogers. Who's the ceo of the american hotel lodging association. And he was he had just re. When i actually spoke to him i knew he was about to release a press release so when recording. We did with him air. The press release had just come out. But i kind of had a glimpse into it a week or so before and in that. Press release going back to june july twenty twenty. He pointed out that eighty percent of the hotels in america. We're on the verge of financial collapse now. Can you imagine what tourism destinations would look like if they were eighty percent boarded up. I would certainly put a damper on your experience because it wouldn't look like you expected it to look wouldn't have the facilities you expected to find and so I've heard a lot of fancy pants. People with marvelous titles who by the way get paid every friday Talking about the basic message being don't travel do not travel. Three words do not travel. I'm so sick of hearing it because if you can get out of your house safely and go to the local gasoline station safely and fill up your car safely. All of which means you're avoiding up close and personal contact with people. You're wearing latex gloves. You're wearing a mask or keeping your distance from people. If you can do that at home you can do that on a road trip if you can go online and order your groceries from a national brand of supermarkets and i'm going to tell you we get all our supermarket supplies from walmart and we've got a couple of choices south of us north of us. We go a little bit of us and we do. Click and collect we contact lists. We've been doing it since we got home from ireland the end of july and in ireland my groceries for the first Well from the sixteenth of march twenty twenty until june second was my first delivery directly to me from a big supermarket chain in northern ireland. Called the which i was told was owned by walmart but somebody told me the other day they either sold it or they don't own it. I don't know operates the same way. Same kind of store by until i could get on the list to get a time. Slot was june twenty twenty so from march sixteen to june. Second twenty twenty. I would email my grocery list to the woman who owned the pub the road and she would go and collected and deliver it to our front door for months. God bless her. Martha davis and may our tribe increase. We had great neighbors an ireland and we never were up close and personal with any of them. You actually can see martha davis. I want to say it's an either flog number one or vlog number two of stephanie's corona voyage at s abrahams s. a. b. r. a. m. s. dot net. It's the first or second flog. I we incorporated martha delivering. She'd come with a with a dolly and pilot all up. she looked like a bellman. Were a red cap at the airport or the train station. But instead of luggage it was bins. Filled with groceries force kept alive overdose months. So you know if you can do that you can do that on the road. If you don't feel comfortable to go restaurant or drive through a takeout you can do contactless pickup. And you know we're coming into the best part of the year everywhere everywhere. So i am sure you are no trouble on a road trip picnicking. Make sure you travel with picnic camper in your trunk with everything. You need knives forks. Whatever you check into your hotel wash everything up unless there's a place in the park that you're stopping at you know where there are picnic tables and there are plenty of places that in the last thirteen. Fourteen months have gone out of their way to create outdoor distance dining and with more and more people being vaccinated and fewer places that are interested in seeing as outside the us. Keep your business home for awhile. And help support tourism in america and one of the things i've been talking about are places you can go that make you feel like you're somewhere out of the country. There's a whole section. Boston looks like ireland. Looks like dublin. There is doubling down. We had on Scott drink the ceo of dublin. Ohio tourism few weeks ago. You can find podcast and archive that s abrahams dot net or your favorite podcast talking about dublin ohio We just finished talking with ralph. Mahane the general manager of the windsor court hotel in new orleans. You wanna feeling like you're in a a french experience. You'll find it there and i thought it would be fun this hour if we went somewhere where. You don't have to go to london to find the new london bridge because the historic london bridge is in lake havasu arizona and on the line waiting to talk with us is the mayor of lake havasu city and he's also the general manager of the london bridge hotel resort. Its resort. The london bridge resort in lake havasu in arizona. And we're going to talk with him right after. This guests of stephanie. Abrams travel shows when here in the berkshires of western massachusetts. Stay at the delightful in trendy boutique hotel on north visit. Their website and hotel on north dot com. I am thrilled to give you a unique experience by radio in arizona where you will find the authentic deconstructed and reconstructed in lake havasu arizona. The london bridge where you will find the london bridge resort. It's mayor and general manager of the london bridge resort cow. She thank you so much. This is grandpa. have you back again. We haven't talked to you in months. How are you doing good. Thank you for having me. Stephanie o. it's a thrill i love talking about Where you are. And i'm hoping that maybe this fall is the year i made good on my promise. And my husband. And aaron go wolf our english springer spaniel who just got groomed. She went to the beauty parlor the other day. So look at My website at s abrahams dot net. And you'll see how gorgeous she looked she. You know there's all this talk about people gaining weight. covert pounds. Well aaron go warf look like she put on five or ten pounds but that was just our winter i. I should get lucky that i go get a haircut and we'll like i lost twenty pounds cycle but it worked for aaron. She looks like a puppy so we want to put her in the car and take a lovely trip and go cross country and maybe we'll went our way out and gets a visit you face to face even if we still have to do it from a distance with a mask or whatever so we're gonna take a quick break and come right back because i've so many questions for you on what's cooking In lake havasu zone. We'll be right back right after these important messages. Don't leave portions of today's show brought to you. By cure sow offering vacationers cultural experiences wrapped in history and charming traditional european architecture. A unesco world heritage city on a southern caribbean island with kobe speeches and over sixty dive and snorkelling sites curious out. Feel it for yourself visit curious. How dot com birth travel with stephanie. Abrams i want to say a great big high. And shout out to steve greeley. Who is the chief cook and bottle washer of things important owner of of the radio station. That carries us in lake. Havasu arkansas arkansas arizona. I'm looking at the list. I'm looking at alabama arkansas. And there's arizona so silly girl k. n. t. r. f. m. ninety four point three lake havasu arizona and a special shoutout to all you find people who are listening. I can't wait to come out and meet you. Maybe maybe if we can do this right. Whoa come out like november maybe and We'll all meet up over at the london bridge resort and Sit down and have a drink together. Wouldn't that be fun. What are you guys doing as it relates to Dealing with covid At the hotel. We know we've seen a big decrease in a community spread of covid and so those are really fantastic numbers that we're seeing and and we're very hopeful That they're going to continue to be that way. But certainly we're following the mitigation strategies that are known around the country of You know wearing Masks in face coverings a social distancing Sanitizer increased protocols for for communists in in our guests sweets and doing all of those things so that our guests our and our team members are safe. Massu acquired anywhere their own required when you're going into a restaurant Gym or fitness center and in theaters. Okay and our people. Sorta keeping their distance or what i eat for the most part. I mean everyone's understands at this point. We were thirteen months into the pandemic and and Individuals understand the best mitigation strategy. The best practices are And they're making the right choices for them and their families young we. We've all been watching. What went on in miami beach This past week and It almost seems like wilding. I was once in dublin. Just after the irish team and i want to say it was rugby. I think it was. The rugby team. Beat the british rugby team. And you know there's a lot like army navy games. There's a lot of competitive spirit there and Ah people had their faces painted green white and orange right down the middle of their faces with like theatrical makeup and they were wearing irish flags wrapped around their necks like capes and they were running in the temple bar section. Which is it's like As greenwich village in new york city. I'm trying to think of other neighborhoods might compared to but If you ever walked on rodeo drive you get that. It's doesn't look anything like it in terms of historic buildings and that kind of thing but it's one of those busy streets that people come to eat and they're even hotels there and and may it look like mad this and nothing that look like anybody taking any protective measures to do anything because it was like a big mob scene A lot of this nations have just gone through this. Spring break is lake havasu city a place that people would come. The college students come on spring break. Or is it a little more refined it. Lake havasu city is a great nation for for all travellers and traditionally every spring We host Students that travel off for spring. Break this past year. Many of the west coast colleges canceled this spring break off of their calendar and moved up the end of the semester Week brilliant strategy. Yes so this is just a little bit different but generally we welcome us students every spring as well as Our winter visitors that like to escape the cooler weather and we have this combination of visitors. That really adds a great vibrancy to our offspring season here in lake havasu city. We're gonna take a quick break and come back you know. We're gonna dive into a number of things. Both related to the london bridge resort and in your capacity as mayor of lake havasu city To learn more about it get an update since the last time we chatted so stay with me. Everybody we'll be right back talking with cows. Her portions of today's show brought to you by yourself. Sow offering vacationers cultural experiences wrapped in history and sherman traditional european architecture. A unesco heritage sydney on a southern caribbean island with kkob speeches and over sixty dive and snorkelling sites. Here sal feel it for yourself. Visit cure sow dot com. It's travel with stephanie abrams. I'm delighted to have on the line with me cow. She he is the mayor of lake havasu city And he is also the general manager of the london bridge towel in lake havasu and again. I shout out to the folks listening on k. N. t. r. fm ninety four point three in the region so ohio. Y'all i'm really looking forward to meeting you You know. I was just thinking in the commercial. Break that it i may have already occurred to you and to terrence Cannon the head of the lake havasu tourism board You guys oughta be inviting if you haven't thought about it yet. Make an harry To get a little bit of london in a truly american environment where they'd be very welcome. I'm sure that would create a little attention though. Yes we would love to to a host of prince harry and meghan in lake havasu city. They're just a short drive away. I in california and we'd love to invite them to lake havasu city and experience of the bridge in america. So when you say it's a short drive away where what's the closest point in california. That somebody who's a a traveler or tourist would wanna visit. How long is that dr. Yes it's really quick. Depending on what part of california palm springs is about three hours away. the los angeles area is around four four and a half hours depending on traffic. In what part of of the los angeles area you're going to San diego is about five hours And then we have you know great destinations in arizona. Worth three hours from from phoenix Three and a half hours from sedona. Three hours from flagstaff. So we're centrally located on and really great region in arizona's west coast. That's a great road trip right there and you know Do you remember a singer named keely smith. She was married to louis prima You might the. She was the female voice. You would hear when louis prima was singing Just a gigolo and that old black magic and whole bunch of songs They they turned. The lounges in las vegas into a place that people wanted to come and sit here people saying and perform as opposed to a place where gamblers would park their wives while they went off to gamble and Killing lived in palm springs and when we did twice for the whole weekend. Saturday and sunday At the beginning of the fiftieth anniversary year. In the end of the fiftieth anniversary of what was then the rivera hotel. Which at one. Time was the biggest hotel in las vegas with two thousand rooms. It's been torn down. Since but in the fiftieth anniversary year we went and broadcast live from the casino. And i asked killy who was a great friend if she would come out and be on the air with me and she lived in palm springs. She said sure we'll drive. And i had no idea what a convenient magnetic lake havasu. You could couple hours. And you're in palm springs and i think it's two hours from palm springs to las vegas. That's why Frank sinatra and peter lawford and a whole bunch of other people had homes there because it was easy to get from there to vegas as very cool. I really puts you in a great spot. Doesn't it yes. We're we're only two hours from vegas while so again like how. The city is located in a great region allows. Oh i already have an itinerary my head. That would make me very happy. Yeah for sure so Why don't we talk. I specifically about The london bridge hotel resort What makes it a resort. not a hotel either. Were right on the base of the bridgewater channel Which is part of lake havasu The london bridge spans Right across the bridgewater channel right adjacent to our property We have an english village with quaint shops and We're have one hundred twenty two suites property with a nine hole. Executive golf course. Twelve thousand square feet of meeting and banquet space Multiple restaurants lounges And nightclubs so. We're full service resort And a great getaway for people that want to All the outdoor recreation that lake havasu city and our region offers It's just a great property. that is iconic to the london bridge and interestingly enough this year will be celebrating the fiftieth anniversary of the dedication of the world. Famous london bridge here in lake. Havasu city i'm em trying to remember. It's summertime now since we had you on the air with us last. And i'm i'm a little fuzzy on some of the information that you provided because the conversation was so information intense. I couldn't grasp all of it. So there's a refresher course for me For those who've heard you before on the air and a brand new thing that you know regrettably misao on your interview. So was the fellow who was responsible for purchasing the london bridge having a disassembled in london shipped to arizona and reconstructed in arizona. Was he associated with the hotel with the london bridge resort. no he was The founder of our community where master planned community robert appea- mccullough was an innovator and business and who really saw the on great location. That was going to become lake. Havasu it was. It was barren Fifty years ago he was Flying over Looking for place to tested outboard engines mcculloch motors and He found this great Area on arizona's west coast on the colorado river he purchased land and and started selling the land and he realized that he needed to have something that was going to really generate interest in his newfound community and so he At that time London bridge was thinking into the river. teams in the city of london Put the bridge up for auction. Robert mcculloch was the winning bidder. I and they disassemble bridge over in london and shipped it to america and it was reconstructed here in lake havasu city over dry land and at that point The bridgewater channel was dredged in the water then flowed underneath the london bridge. It's been that way for over fifty years when you got to the part about Robert mcculloch flying over the area looking for a place that made sense. The test is motors and it was deserted it just reminded me of the vision of bugsy you aided to be called bugsy siegel who was responsible for las vegas. I mean you know you just wonder. Would there be a las vegas all or would it have been somewhere else. The the entertainment city that it is were it. Not for bugsy siegel for which there is no statue and probably never will be because you know he shoot you just as soon as look at you sideways. So he had a bit of only a trigger finger but a trigger temper a gangster in a bad guy but you know on the other hand were it not for him and his vision. There wouldn't be vegas today and then you know you look at. Here's a guy looking for a place to test out his motors. Who looks at and says you know. This has the potential of being all lot more. And i am sure without having any facts whatsoever that a lot of people told him he's out of his mind not only for wanting to create something in a deserted area but also to bring a bridge across the ocean and across north america and set it up. And if you do that people will come and visit. I'm there has to be some history of negativism zoning board that won't tell you know before they even hear what you wanna talk about this and it's not like america is the market corner on that. That's an international thing is other stories of pushed back on his ideas. We'll you know he. He was an innovator and he is the one that found area in you. It wasn't necessarily deserted as it was perceived it was it was undeveloped. Land along the west coast and so when he purchased land to build the city i he also Put into effect marketing engine and so at one point he had the largest airline Out here because he was flying people from cold weather destinations to avenue city so that he could tour them and show them this great Desert oasis here on in like how to city and that's how he sold plots time now. Lake havasu city is home to over fifty. Five thousand people live in indiscreet community And have access to all this great outdoor recreation and great quality of life. What what year was that. No one airline was that It was Miko is it was a. Yeah the lake. Havasu city based airline mechanic airlines and he would Fly charters Throughout the country from from cold weather areas bring up potential citizens and land purchasers to the area. How cool is that. how it's called. Put your money where your mouth is guy. Myra a person like that who season clearly and is like you know you're not on my train get off my track. 'cause we're coming throw you ninety put together a great team so it was robert. P mcculloch was was obviously founder visionary and his Partner a business partner. Cv woods Who's also Was the the planner for our community. also planned disneyland and so he was able to have you know the the magic behind some of The great theme parks of of the era and was able to put some of that magic into the development and plans and vision for like obviously city. Now i remember you had a remarkable backgrounds. His street yourself in terms of your own experiences business experiences and skill set at what point. What year did you arrive in lake. Havasu i moved here in nineteen ninety-five and did you move with an offer to oversee. Either the london bridge resort or something else. Or you just said let me go out there and save like this place and if this is a good grandparents moved here in the late seventies and so they they lived here long time and back in and The ninety s when we moved here. i was still in school and so i didn't really have a choice. So my mom brought me out here. And and Transplant me here in in arizona. Which i couldn't be more thankful for on my love this community and everything that it is so i ended up graduating high school here I started at the london bridge resort dumb as housekeeper all those years ago and then have worked through various departments and was able to to leave and manage resorts on the east coast Before the owner brought me back out in the general manager role About eighteen years ago. Well you know We've just interviewed. Ralph motto is for the last three years. The general manager of the windsor court hotel in new orleans and Once again a similar story he started as the the night auditor and night bellman. In case somebody checked in in the middle of the night. I became his job to check them in get to their room and and worked in the food options within the hotel and keeping and front desk and whatnot It's a good place to start in this business people especially if you wanna be a gm. We'll be right back. We travel with stephanie abrams. We're wrapping up this hour with cows. She he is the mayor of lake havasu city in arizona and he is the general manager of the london bridge resort. And you know. I'm just wondering about what is planned In lake havasu city Have you been able to actually Do more than just encourage people to come and enjoy Have you been able to plan any events or festivals or you know celebrate anything you might ordinarily celebrate that you are or you're not you know you didn't do last year you might do this year. What's cooking so we've been very fortunate. through through the last year with the increased demand an increased interest in our area and so Folks would would come to lake havasu city again because of all the outdoor recreation opportunities. We have you know they. They automatically are physically distant. So if you're on a boat on the lake or you're fishing off roading hiking doing any of those types of things that really created a renewed interest in our community. So we've been a quite busy through the last year and into the spring and we're forecasting all the way through the summer and we've just started having a smaller Street festivals in in fares and those types of things are starting to come back As well as some of our economy events are in the planning stages later in the spring To come forward and and be able to invite our residents and visitors to participate in these these different functions and events draw community Favorite one do. I have a favorite one to every year. We have really great events so if you have not experienced catastrophic event i encourage you to go to go lake havasu dot com and check out our event lineup But we have a wide variety of them so starts with desert storm. Which are these large votes That are are just beautiful on. They do a shootout and they do a polka run on the lake. We have a great christmas festival of lights Th that jason. To the london bridge in english village We have a bow prayed of lights. Which is another fantastic event. We have relics and rods car. Show which is is a great event on golf course. There's just so many events that happened. The ice air ballooning. That's every january. We have a festival which is another great event that we have Nearly eighty balloons participate And thousands of visitors come out Obviously canceled as pasture but looking forward to be able to having in two thousand twenty two. You know years ago. We went up to cairo boo main so that we could be there for the hot air balloon festival and i met a fellow. I interviewed him in maine and he was on his way to arizona. And i don't remember where in arizona he went to it. Well might have been Lake havasu and we did An interview with him by telephone when he was in arizona about to get in his balloon. And you know the the. It's such a gorgeous sight isn't it. Yeah there's nothing more beautiful than seeing these. These really colorful balloons. I light up the sky and having the backdrop b. The london bridge and the beautiful lake. Havasu if somebody wanted to have a family reunion Especially if you've got family on the west coast and in the mid west and arizona's an easy place to get to By air and certainly if you're in the mid west the west. it's an easy place to get to buy car Somebody wanted to do a destination wedding or a family reunion or whatever. Gather up the folks in one place Would that be something you'd be interested in hosting at your hotel. absolutely yes. yeah. London bridge resort has a full service catering division and and we look forward to welcoming back guests In that environment to a group travel in group dining maximum heads in beds thou-. Oh we have one hundred twenty two suites. so we're an all suite property. The one hundred twenty two speeches. What we have no k. Well that's a nice size and yeah so well people give it some thought and You know what what fun is a city with a sense of humor and you have to love that That offers a lot a lot of warm friendly people waiting to receive you. I want to thank you so much for joining us today. And i want to thank all of you for listening today. Remember s abrahams dot net and check out the podcast. The archived audio video. That's archive there of the tv shows and everything else and come back next. Time gotta fly now.

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Ngorongoro Crater (aka The Garden Of Eden) Tanzania :17520 Miles

Many Roads Travelled : (Solo Female) Travel Podcast

31:23 min | 7 months ago

Ngorongoro Crater (aka The Garden Of Eden) Tanzania :17520 Miles

"Aware doing what i crazy. Damn usage welcome to many roads traveled. I'm tomorrow and i have one question for you. Do you love to travel awesome or that. I invite you to join me on my thirty thousand mile road. Trip from paris to capetown back to nairobi. More thing will be traveling back in time to nine hundred ninety three before the internet google maps and cell phones however not to worry because i d give up to date info on each episode plus you can always find more information on my website may rose travelled dot com so without further ado. Let's hit the road hayes. Big news my youtube channel is up and running. You can get there by my website mayor with travel dot com double in traveled overseas straight on youtube. Okay see you there and enjoy the show cheers. So it's episode thirty nine ad on today's episode. We are going to the Ngorongoro crater in Tanzania and also this is an epic episode I guess. Because we're halfway through my trip really because I've been on the road about eight months and the trip in total was sixteen months. And we've gone over halfway after this episode we'll be 17,520 miles of the 30,000 miles I covered on this trip. As well I'm in Arusha. Which is exactly halfway between Cairo & Capetown. So there you go episode 39 here it comes! A little bit about Ngorongoro crater, which is absolutely amazing and i would highly recommend it. I mean it's one of the only true safaris that I paid for actually like an organized safari besides the chimps and gorillas which is kind of different not a safari per se. Yes this was it and it was only a day and a half. They say 2 days one night but really you only spend one day in the crater which is still absolutely brilliant. How the crater was formed about two and a half million years ago an active volcano that was about the same size as Mount Kilimanjaro. They reckon it was around 5800 meters, basically exploded and the explosion created what's called a caldera and this is the biggest intact caldera in the world. and the crater is also a unesco world heritage site and it's also one of the seven natural wonders of Africa, if not the world. I think it should be the world to be honest. And there are about forty thousand people that still live in the crater mostly the Maasai Mara tribe. And there's an incredible amount of animals in this crater so it's about 680 meters deep and 260 square kilometers. So it's it's quite big. There's like thirty thousand animals in there and all sorts. Pretty much any animal you can find in Africa are in this crater except for gorillas, chimps, and giraffes because it's too steep for the giraffes to go down. But you'll find giraffes in the area around the crater so poor giraffes get left out. It is also a great place to see the very endangered black rhinos as well as the black mane lions. There are only about fifty black rhinos in the park and probably is most in the world, to be honest, that are free. There are about sixty-five to seventy five lions in the crater as well and like I said plus loads of different types of animals. I had seen a lot of animals so far but was super looking forward to seeing the rhinos and lions because I hadn't seen those yet. So I'm super pumped about this trip. Okay picking up where we left off. It's day 240, I just said goodbye to Clare an English girl I met in Nairobi. We've traveled together for almost two months. All around lake victoria. We had many adventures together. So yeah I'd said bye to her although there was a chance we might meet again because she was off to climb. Mount Meru & obviously I'm off to go to the crater. So we weren't sure but we said our goodbyes. And if you listen to the last episode you'll hear what palavar it was for me to book this safari or get going on it. So i was very happy I was finally setting off. And I was officially on my own traveling solo so little bit scary but i was way more excited about it. The safari range rover picked me up at my hotel down at 2 o'clock and there were four people on my little safari group plus driver David who was a really lovely guy. Sothere were two Belgian guys who turned out to be a bit and a lovely couple Chris & Lisa, who is from Australia and then her husband. Chris was from south africa. They are great. We hit it off right away and we are kind of sitting in the seats so we took off and the first two hours. The driver is great because it's on paved roads so let's novelty in africa at least back in nineteen ninety three when i was there. I can't imagine a lot's changed really well regarding the roads. But then we turned off to head towards the crater and yup. Here we go back to the roads. I'm used to shocking potholder. Rose ridiculous like you'd think this is like a road to a main tourism site for tanzania like you say they wanted to fix those roads. I mean maybe now we have but back then no way so it was back to like flying every pothole out of your seat. Fun times came to little village and we stopped at a cup team and chat to the local people and then but we decided we should keep going because we left. We didn't leave till afternoon. You really should even the morning because it's about a five and a half hour drive to the crater from arusha about one hundred eighty five kilometers each way so hundred eight. Five climbers takes five hours putting into bit more perspective. How bad the roads are decided. We wanted to get keepdriving because he wanted to get closer to the crater. So we you get there early in the morning and not waste time getting there basically so we drove another forty five minutes to get to safari junction. Where we're supposed to stay the night. Because i are safari included our food transportation there in back from ratio night's accommodation in a hotel room plus our food for the two days right. There's like three different types of accommodation. That's junction of course thorough full because reading book and accommodation for us. So it's like oh gosh here. We go finally found this safari camp. Where we camped organizers. Told us all would that. You know everything's included clean-air nights combination. So you don't have to bring any of your own stuff just day bag for close winner for the next day well. Luckily i had my whole backpack with me including my tent because we the tents that they gave out for us to use up to safari camp place or disgusting they stunk and they're covered in mould so for other people in my group. Were not happy. I was just like well. I'm just gonna pitch my own tents my own things and then david our driver said it's too expensive to eat here. We're gonna go back down to this village and go to different restaurant. Where like what. Food in africa tanzania back. That really wasn't that expensive be five was a luxury meal. So you can eat for two or three dollars. Pretty's local food Pile back in the ranger go to the village by the time it got there because it's dark now as dingy little dive and they hardly had any food left in the field they did have laugh with me which. I don't eat red meat. So i ended up getting small bowl of beans. Want to party and a banana. Data what is this nonsense and you know the food that for people got word wasn't great either so none of us are really very happy on our first day of the safari joe back to the camp and david managed to find me a bowl of onion soup and some bread bless him. I mean he was great he can only do what is companies told him to do right so he did really try less and remember like when i bought like. Oh yeah you're getting all this amazing food and your own sheth on the safari right yeah. Okay exporting did at least get a good night's sleep point in my own. Ten have was having to breathe in mold but six thirty in the morning packed up and of course headed back to the dingy re restaurant for breakfast. It was cheap and we got a greasy omelette and some greasy donuts. Each for breakfast plumbing drove up to the crater. You drive up to the top and it's just absolutely stunning. The view is amazing. 'cause you're seven hundred meters and then just looking down in crater lynching takes your breath away. It's absolutely stunning. Nicola craze also known as the garden of eden. Because it really looks like it. It's like every little piece of africa is in this crater so you get different vegetation and habitats. So there's even like almost a bit of a desert area. there's forest cross lancers lowlands. There's a lake. There's a dry riverbed so a super sandy so that kind of looks like deserty it was crazy and of course like i said all the animals to finding pretty much in his graders. Well the ride down because it's very very steep like said and you go about six hundred. Eighty meters drafts came into it so it. After my truck accident anythi rambles died. Catch that episode yet. I was a little bit nervous. Just praying that the brakes would not give out on the land rover like it did on the track but we made it safe and sal. Well there's dirt roads and things like that through the crater which stay on follows. They're pretty strict on that. Which is good. Because that was another reason. I'd ever did any safaris masamaru surrogate ear. Who else is because i mean. I drove through all these parks. I got to see animals to some buses or backtracks. Whatever is drivers in but a lot of the parks day or just crazy. It was almost like open zoos away because they would drive off road. We're not supposed to so you see say lion chasing an antelope or something. The next you know there's like literally a hundred landrovers driving across the land not following the roads chasing this line. Who's chasing this antelope. i mean. that's no good. Hopefully they've got a bit stricter nowadays. I'm not sure but the crater again you kind of had to go on as far to go there and it was a lot more organized and disciplined so. I was happy to do that. Obviously and just seeing the crater itself was amazing. Let alone seeing all the animals. So i mean all five of us. We are cpap to see the lions and the rhinos. Because i think there's even less of them back then so there at least populations grown a little bits. We were driving around like said you just. It's so cool to sing miniature landscapes of africa. The lake is covered. In flamingos loads of fleming. Those because obviously there's a lot of birds. There's well saw wart hog warhawks. There's this hippos in the lake. I mean i had my close encounters with the post but still it's really always cold to see them again and it was great because our land rover the tobacco. So that's where. I was sitting so i just stood on c. With my head out the the roof the whole time which was awesome. Like you know three six sea view of africa and all these animals. So we're on the lookout for the lions leopards there but leopards are very elusive and never saw that in the whole talk is in. Africa is probably a good thing. I would have been probably walking. So where forward to see one and driving around and just check on all the taking photos and all that stuff. It just like your mouth is open. The whole time in aren't just like excitement. And then we see a couple of land rovers had pulled over so david's like okay. Something's happening over there. So we drove over there on the roads and yet there was two lions like just totally chilling out in the middle of the road one male one female and they were the black mane lion so like this is so us so we got quite close. I mean i probably was. Maybe ten feet max from the male lion amazing actually number this pre digital cameras. You had rolls of film and you can see what you're taking so you're very select on your photos you took. I got a couple of good weather lines. So they're just chilling and then after a little while the female got up went up to the mail and started prowling around the mail and then he just got. It ignored her. She walked away and then he both gonna kind of walked away but yeah it was amazing started driving and then david spotted a black rhino though. Like okay so we drove towards them. I mean he was super nervous to knock it too close to them because black rhinos are loaded crazy. They have very bad eyesight but they're smelling is very good so we got maybe twenty five thirty meters away from it and stopped and said i'm in the back like it looked just like two big black boulder's they're huge and back then and they still have their horns. They weren't chopped off flick. Elephant tusks nowadays to help prevent poaching and ivory trade. And all that watching it the next thing you know he kinda just i don't know if he's also smelters or something but he started charging us. David like puts the layover gear. We take all the raido. And i'm at the back so i would be the first seat hit. He caught up with us right and they can run pretty fast for short period time and it's getting closer david floor man put. It was so excited he'd really cool and eventually the vital stopped and we got far enough away but yeah it was a little adrenaline kick for sure. How many times you say you've been charged by a black rhino and lift telltale very often. Yeah and then we all saw like there's many different types of antelopes and we saw smell offense and the forest four hyenas. They are little bastard. Let me tell you yeah. It was just amazing amazing arm and now a quick sponsor break lease. Please please never travel without travel insurance. Trust me. I learned once for the hard way and never again. This is the trump insurance company that i use in their awesome. They cover over one hundred thirty different countries so go check them out. Many roads travel dot com for slash. Insurance double ellen traveled. And don't leave home without it as the saying goes okay now back to the show so we probably drive around three hours three hours three to four hours. It was just breathtaking. It was amazing. There's like a little picnic area. We went over there. Got out and talk to some maasai mara. People and their renowned for their enabled to jump super high vertically. Like it's amazing. So they do a little routine for you. I guess you know it was kinda touristy. But then i talked to some afterwards like the down located so guests super amazing people very interesting so for our lunch i mean. We had zero expectations. Basically the three front david game as a boiled egg each some fruit and cake. That was our lunch but he forgot to buy drinks so no drinks and it was quite dry and thirsty thirsty. Luckily i had Some water in my water bottle but again not to impress the no tricks and also you had to fight off the vervet monkeys. 'cause they're little crafty buggers and they'll try and steal your food and we're like listen. We hardly have any sorry guys. It up the next Rich tourists coming next to. They'll have much more for you. I'm sure and then after lunch was time to head back and i will never ever forget that day in the crater. It was amazing. Absolutely amazing so we started the ascent backup and again. The views just breathtaking. Just really so beautiful. Why does the road throat is pretty bad coming into the crater and for the few hours to get to the pavement so we stopped at the little village nearby where we'd stopped on our way up to get a soda because we're all like we're dying of thirst now it's about mid afternoon so there's a little shop. There's we all go pick a soda in david soya I don't have any more money. You can have to buy your own downhill. I can tell you that who is too slick watch. The promises were made about the safari. Like for when reported all individually just the opposite of what we actually got. I mean the crater itself thankfully was amazing. So you know it was worthwhile. I mean i paid fifty dollars. Us you know. He wanted more. But my friend. Claire had gone with these guys. And that's why i went with them. You have a huge selection of tour groups you can go with in arusha but because claire said should agree time. That's why when with them and he was trying to get me to pay more time. And i'm like listen. I'm paying fifty bucks. That's it take a leave it. I can go somewhere else so we agreed on fifty on the drive back. The five of us were talking about how much we each had paid. Lease and chris pay fifty five dollars each and the belgians had paid one hundred thirty five for both of them so altogether if the company meets three hundred bucks for the five of us and crab Three dollars in food camp. We're probably hotel rooms. And not even a drake on the actual safari day was no. This is not happening where you know so. We had arranged to meet up at is called equator tours. The next morning and demands money back basically a complete rip off. I mean the guy literally lied to us. It took us about five hundred dollars back to russia. I mean we love david. We did all tip dave. It wasn't his fault. He was willing given the amount of money that the owner gave him and he tried his hardest to do what he could. You know we made sure he was looked after at least in the last hour. You can see matt moore in the background. Which is beautiful. And i was just thinking of cleric. Because i'm like oh my gosh. I wonder if she's honored climbing it. If she made it knows dave jumping-off back at my guest house and there is a letter from claire and she had left the day before to go to mount meru so she'd be back in a couple of days so she might see me. I'm still around or if not you know safe. Travels was great traveling with you all that jazz thing. She's gonna be back in a couple of days. I thought it will. I'll wait for her. 'cause also i wanted to figure out if i was gonna do kilimanjaro or would i was doing so waiting. Today's interracial was not a problem. I really liked. 'cause there's lots of other travelers. They're loss to chat about with them and it'd be nice to surprise her so i was like. Okay that's cool. So i know i'm gonna be here for two more days. I was filthy by the time. I got back so i managed to get a bucket. You literally just get a bucket of water and have a shower. So let's go pocket showers. You're lucky if it's hot or warm. Usually it's cold depending where you're staying and then went to my favorite places called robinson's for dinner because i was pretty starving after our last two days of pretty pitiful food the next day to forty two after going to the y. Which is where my chosen breakfast. Place was because it was cheap and cheerful in really good. Actually so yeah headed back to. It's like a big conference center which all the safari in a trekking operators are based on what they're trying to go for for kilimanjaro. I mean it wasn't hundred percent yet. Sure is gonna do it just because money. I was really really low on money. They had about five hundred dollars left on travelers jackson. I had still long ways to go to get capetown so as little bit stressed out money and i knew killy would be between three and four hundred dollars. Us couple credit cards. So i hadn't used those yet. Still had thousand dollars in each of the credit card. So i was okay. I talked to one lady and she wanted four hundred and fifty. Us for six day track and is like nope too expensive. 'cause i was thinking three hundred i turn to the people. Do for three hundred. And that's kind of my max really but i did by pin to to really love. The english girls louisan isabel is so hung with them for a little bit. And then it was time to meet my safari group on. We're on the warpath. A little bit for equator tours are crater company. We all met up first and then we walked to the corner tours together and lawyer who is the sleazy owner of the company. He was there i actually. Didn't i sat back. The belgians were the most pissed off because they paid the most. So i kinda sat back and let the guys takeover and listen. I kind of the boys got it really. They explain exactly what happened. How you know. We were completely misled about what we're supposed to get and blah blah blah. And he listened for maybe two minutes before then. He just started arguing and yelling at us little kobe. Course because we want some money back five us. We could gave three hundred dollars. I don't know how much the park entrance fee was at the time 'cause that included that but he still made probably a couple hundred bucks and the amount of food like said. It was ridiculous and camping and all that. So he's like okay. Well i'll give you thousand shillings back ends new zealand's back which was the equivalent to about two dollars because it was at four hundred fifty shillings to the time nowadays. It's two thousand three hundred thing. Where like not no not acceptable so basically after threatening that we were going to write a lonely planet and give him bad reviews. He's like okay. Fine i'll give you twelve thousand shillings back. Twenty six dollars split between the four of us because she's not getting anything pointing to me. I watch why giving. Oh you basically beg me to let you go on his safari and the demanded that you're really going to pay fifty dollars so you're getting nothing back. That's absolutely ridiculous. Why frank claire told me the price. So i knew the price fifty bucks. I told you. Take her lever all book somewhere else. So is more the other way around. We agreed on that price leeson. Chris only paid five dollars more than me. So i understand where you're having a go at me if my ass and get out of my office is like what the totally shocked again. We're all we're like. What what why are you having to go at her. Like what is going on anyways. He said we'll give you twelve thousand dollars back between the four of you. But i don't have the money now. I have to go get it so you have to wait. I'll come back in an hour. We'll all thinking we'll never see this guy again if we let him out of our sight so chris guys they said. We're going to stay here. And lisa niagara went into town because we had around to do okay while we back in our with twelve thousand shillings. We're like okay. Seen our and then. I also had to get some money out so i put like us on my credit card. And then what. Three hundred dollars worth traveler's checks into threat the rest chilling so we. Did you know that that took a couple of hours and we go back to the equator tours. Nope no surprise. Lawyer still has showed chris how to do stuff so the belgian guys like okay. We'll stay. We have to leave soon because we got into marshy because climbing komen general. Tomorrow for like. Hey we'll we'll be back shortly. We're back into town dinner things and then came back about four thirty and yeah lawyer still hadn't showed up because we got there at noon so four and a half later and still no sign of him. I mean it wasn't none of us. Were surprised to be honest. And the belgians like well we have to go because we got to catch our transport to get mashi stolen kelly tomorrow so they paid the most in got nothing nothing back. They were very happy about that so we all laughed. And we're like oh we'll try get morning the next morning. I met up with. Chris and lisa for breakfast at the y. After records chris site. Okay you got you girls stay here. I'm gonna go back to equator. And i'll either come back with their money or i'm calling the police on him like okay. You go to chris so nice. Have someone else will have to deal with this crap. Because it's usually with me. Whether i was trying with casey usually that had deal with this kind of stuff so it was a nice touch break for me. To be honest. So about five minutes later kris showed up with the twelve thousand shillings. Surprise surprise. i guess. The threat of place helped maters smoke. So he's got four thousand eight dollars each turned out custody. Forty two bucks for the safari and just the four hours and the crater. I'm gonna pay a lot more than that to see that. So i was like okay. Great we got something back. Felt you know. I feel bad for the belgium. So say goodbye chris and lisa 'cause they are often nairobi but they gave lots of contact details for friends and stuff who lived in south africa to deaf again touch with them and really lovely couple so i just went to the train station to have to get a rough idea. How much is going to be to get the train for mashi to dar-es-salaam and it was a beau three thousand three hundred fifty shillings for second class sleeper. And it's twelve hour. So i thought that was pretty good. And then yeah. I just went back to the madhouse to wait for claire to get back. 'cause she was back in a few hours. I did tell all the staff to not say. I was there that i had already laughed and i voted a little note single by and all that stuff because i wanted to surprise her. Then i bumped into this guy. Matt peter and i had met in nevada about couple months prior when i was with claire. Actually and He was a with another caroline. So they're like let's go for you know hadn't seen for come on so we went next door. Jambos for bears ended up having three for a little bit talk there. We're back to the hotel room around seven. just add. claire had just gotten back. And she's like yeah. I knew you're here still. I was like what goes by surprise. So is great to see her again and she came back with me back to jambos. And i like only peter two year. Just getting quite drunk and drinking beers add. More people kept joining us so it was usually fun. Edge filled me on a map. Miro she says great. It was beautiful as you can see kilimanjaro. The whole track and so hard but it was awesome so she had a really good time so to hear abo- because let me tell you. I think there's gonna be whole episode of my ordeal booking. Mike gyro track. If i thought this one was bad this next episode it takes the cake so victory to deduct sweet to hear all about that in then. Were climbing kili ashley and now. It's time for thames. Talbot to tip number wine. It's about the crater is a half hour drive from arusha to get there or seven hour drive from nairobi. Closest airport is at arusha. So you're gonna have to do this drive but if you're wanted to fly to russia you can do that you know. I'm all about traveling of land. So but whatever makes you happy. Little tidbit i found about the crater is that it's one of the most important prehistoric sites in the world because the fossils they have found there are some the earliest of the human species. It is amazing place telling you and they have limited tourists that are allowed in their per day. Pre cove vade. There's about four hundred fifty thousand tourists a year. That went there. So you have to have a permit i mean. Usually you're safari. Company will have to arrange that for you and the park fee is seventy. Us dollars so if you're to do independent like the cheapest way to pay for the park fees seventy bucks to there's no public transport there's land rover or jeep because like said the roads are so bad so you'd have to put that in as well as obviously food and accommodation brings me to tip number two. It's probably regardless of experience is probably easiest to book. A you know if you wanna do what i did today safari tour which is the cheapest. I've just looked for you guys so for a budget to a safari which includes camping for the knights combination your transport and your food and hopefully you just get a better than i had. But you're looking at it's between four and five hundred dollars per person. Budget said that clues transport from two infomercial or you can combine it into longer safari so between lino foreign aid. As and you'd see other parts while xander ma. Samar can depending on your budget level between eight hundred twelve hundred dollars per person though kind of more budget safari a lot of camping. H twelve hundred dollars. If you're looking at more luxurious than it's between five hundred thousand dollars a day yeah and then tip three. I really would still recommend booking locally whether you know in a ratio or possibly mashi or even a robie but irish. Play your best bet because there's just so many you have a lot of competition so you can bargain with prices. But nowadays you can look online at reviews on tripadvisor or talk to other travelers and their experiences. Definitely definitely do that. Before you book anything it still would be cheaper to book it locally than from your from home basically okay and for my solo. Female travelers shot up. Your best bet is to find other travelers in arusha and you guys go together and book the sephardic the two days like the what i did mine is the food and accommodation. You know was plenty. I mean if you're really tight budget kazoo nowadays four hundred boxes for today's it's worth it. I highly recommend it. You're never gonna see anywhere like it in the world. It's incredible and don't forget. Please please please never travel without travel insurance. Trust me. I learned once for the hard way never again. This is the trump insurance company that i use in their awesome. They cover over one hundred hundred different countries so go check them out. Many roads traveled com forward slash insurance double ellen traveled and don't leave home without it as the saying goes not only. Is it great for you. But it also helps support the show. Thank you kid okay. I think that's rough for this week. So make sure you subscribe. And we'll catch you next thursday for the next episode all about craziness of trying to book by kilimanjaro. Check okay until then take care and safe travels one right.

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Alan Kaufman, Queens, NY - Achilles International

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Alan Kaufman, Queens, NY - Achilles International

"Yeah i saw bill. I saw the achilles shirt is this man is my hero. If i'm going to volunteer with any charitable organization people disabilities and various challenges. It was going to be achilles international. Welcome to the iran because podcast. We all have a reason why we run. Each person has a unique purpose to answer their y. You're y moves you. you're y. Get you across the finish line. You're y can motivate others. I run because seeks to inspire others by exploring the why of athletes who run for charitable organizations and causes. I'm your host job chart. I have my lovely guide for life my wife christie this season of i run because we are highlighting the running club achilles international running club that partners guides with runners of different abilities to compete in mainstream rubbing running events while achilles focuses on running. The truth is running a simple tool for accomplishing their main objective. The bring hope inspiration the joys of achievement of all tonight we have one of achilles probably most famous athletes. and somebody. if we're talking about achilles we have dimension allan kaufman from achilles queens with. Alan was the first person that came to my mind when you set up the list of people. Oh yeah ladder flattered thank you. Hey alan how you doing good guys. Hi christine hi joe. Thanks so much for having me Listen when this this podcast talking about people's why of why they're running would not be complete. If we did not have alan kaufman on our podcast that i mean your story is one that inspires moves and is at the heart of what achilles is about and really at the heart of what this podcast is seeking to find so with that being said alan. Why don't we start with why you started to run. I remember specifically when i started to run and y wanted to start. Why went to begin running. I was in seattle in early. Nineteen ninety-one downtown and there was a five k. going on along the waterfront. It was an absolutely beautiful day. And i thought to myself it would be great to be a runner and of course i did nothing until my wife pregnant. A couple of months later in may ninety one and the elevator was at our building. So i decided i'd run up four flights of Steps to get to her apartment. And i was completely i couldn't catch. My breath was gasping for air. And i thought if. I'm going to be a dad. I need to get in shape. And that's when i began running may first nineteen ninety-one we. We just passed your anniversary. Twenty nine years. Wow twenty nine years. What's happened in twenty nine years. But i remember running. I walked a block. I ran a block. I walked a block. And then i vowed in eighteen months in the guess was the one thousand nine hundred city marathon. I was going to be an entrant and that was my goal. Eighteen months later. I went from doing no running to my first new york city marathon. You went from climbing a flight of steps being at breath to saying. Hey we're gonna. I'm gonna do the new york city marathon and eighteen months. I was completely. I was completely smitten. I you know the running community back in the pre internet days meant you'd send in a postcard or you'd get a flyer at erase. Fill it out. Mail it in with a check and then you do the race and get the t shirt and in those pre internet days. All you need to send in a postcard to roadrunners and you were pretty much. Guaranteed an entry into the marathon. So you were still on the west coast ninety two no. I was living in new york but traveled to seattle. And so that that's kind of where the seed was planted on a road trip. I worked for nickelodeon for many years. And i was always travelling and i later learned. Once i was a runner. It was a joy to go to different cities and run. So i was completely hooked. I think about the movie brittany runs a marathon. And like what you just explained was almost like alan runs a marathon. We watch the movie christine. And i laughed the whole same thing. I was amazing. I was slightly overweight within i. I dropped twenty five pounds in three months and got to fighting. Wait almost instantly. But there's that moment when you decide you need to change something in your life and me. It was just being expect apparent to be and living in queens. Where i live. There's is wonderful places to run flushing meadows. Park forest park. So isn't a great place to be a runner. And you did your first marathon. Nineteen ninety two and then did you stick with it or was that a one and done no i. There's always a moment when you run a marathon and you think what was i thinking. I'm never doing this again. The elation for the one mistake i made was like never predict what your first marathon times going to be. Because you're going to be awfully wrong. And i was pronouncing a three and a half hour marathon. I came in just shy of five. But i was. I vowed to do it again. The following year and i have to tell you from one thousand nine hundred ninety two until this past year. I did every marathon except the year superstorm. Sandy cancelled and the year. That i got sick but i was completely hooked both as an entry and then i didn't get in. I decided that was that was the change in my life. I became an achilles guide. You've done every marathon. Since ninety two. With the exception of the year they cancelled and my cancer diagnosis in two thousand seventeen. My doctor looked at me and said You may want to sit this year out so that. But otherwise i've done i just completed. Might well this past. November was my twenty six new york city marathon and hopefully if all the hysteria and i know that fifty three thousand people converging new york city from all over the world seems very counter. Intuitive right now. I am hoping that marathon twenty sevens in the offing for me in six months so alan. When did you start guiding. Do you have a year of when you start guiding it was either ninety six or ninety seven what had happened was the marathon was getting increasingly popular and i think roadrunners realized that a guy like me doing the marathon pays the subway fare goes to the expo goes home and contributes nothing to the economy. So they started limiting the amount of local runners to a certain amount forgot. What but the. I did on the marathon. I seen all these people that killy shirts and was completely i was. I was fascinated by the whole achilles program so the the first year that didn't get in and this is kind of self serving. I admit i decided. Hey this is the year. I'm going to volunteer his achilles guide. And i did and they took me and i foolishly over underestimated my overseer. I said i'd do. I can do the marathon a three and a half hours so they paired me with two very fast blind runners from thailand. There was a complete disaster. But after that i learned you know whoever would be i started guiding ninety six ninety seven and a half to save the twenty six marathons. They've done eleven was as an entry official entrant. Fourteen was a guide as guy as a guide and then one is an an achilles athlete. So once i started guiding this is for me. This is a wonderful way to do the race so just out of curiosity. There's a lotta charities that you could run with an especially in new york city. What was it that drove you to achilles. It was the site of bill. Reilly the first year. I did it if you don't. Bill got cerebral palsy. He's in a wheelchair and he goes backwards in his chair. I saw bill. I saw the achilles shirt is this man is my hero. If i'm going to volunteer with any charitable organization people disabilities and various challenges. It was going to be achilles international and even in the first year going with runners who are too fast for me. I realized that in years. After that i would just i. I started doing the race with members of achilles japan with blind runners from that team and they would ask for me every year they would look they reach out to me in april. Or you're going to be available in the fall. And i always said yes you know when i ran the new york city marathon in two thousand fifteen bill was my inspiration for joining. I saw him on a bridge. I forget what bridget was and he had to guides and he was going backwards over the bridge. And i remember thinking to myself. That's what i wanna do next year. And every time i see him he reminds me of why i did it right. And what a and what a thrill christine for to have him as a teammate net to be on bills team another fellow. Member of achilles queens. That's amazing that really is. he really. Is the reason why. I remember seeing and i remember saying i have to find out with these yellow shirt to rebel and then i came home. Joe i looked it up and we found out. There was achilles and long story short. He was my inspiration as well. It's so true allen. She came home from the marathon. You know we were so proud of her and and celebrating and she said you know what i saw this guy. He was gone up backwards on on on the one of the bridges. And she's like. I couldn't believe it. And that's when you said i have to find out what this clubs all about. And coincidentally that's how we hooked up with jobs or bonelli. Everybody's got their story in their moment of inspiration. Mind was bills of being with seeing bill. At the moment i saw bill and then of course once i became a guide and the look on an athlete's face. When you get he or she over the finish line is indescribable. And i one year. Two thousand eight. I remember vividly. We were the last ones to finish the very last. We were out there for fourteen hours but we made it and it was the greatest moment of my life to get this woman. She was my. I guess her late fifties. She was a stroke survivor. Japanese didn't speak english and smile on her face was just overwhelming. It was just spent tastic. That's great so allen. I know you mentioned that you have one year as an athlete. So you need a guide now when you run i do. I've actually done. I was diagnosed with cancer in two thousand seventeen and i resolved that year of that i was going to join. Achilles queens our local chapter and do the marathon is an achilles athlete so two thousand eighteen was my first year as an athlete. Actually i was incorrect. Early i've done two as an as an achilles athlete two thousand eighteen in two thousand nineteen and two guides each time. I i did the race. So two thousand seventeen. You doctor said it's not happening this year. What happened was in june of two thousand seventeen. I was diagnosed with advanced metastatic. Melanoma i had fi- brain tumors and one of my lung and i had back to back brain surgeries of pretty much. Hobbled me and that year. I was scheduled to be an achilles guide. And i knew. Be a responsible for me to get anywhere near the race as a guide to put an athlete's fate in my hands when i was struggling. So that was my transitional that the transition period for me from going from guide to guided as i like to say two thousand seventeen was the hardest race. I've never done and the achilles team. God bless them sent me. I don't know who's metal was. They sent me a finishers medal from the two thousand seventeen new york city marathon. I just got chills. It was some i. I got this envelope in the mail and it's heavy and it's got japanese writing on it as what is i tore it open and it's a it's a finishers medal and i just lost it. I just like and hung it and again it was the toughest rows it it was the easiest marathon. I've never done in the hardest at the same time we went to the race. We met you that if you went into cheer people on. Was it too hard. We went to the cheer station in long island city and thankfully with cell phones. And everything else. I was able to coordinate where they were. Hey we're on the bridge. Hey i'm by the white garbage truck in long island city. I've got photographs. Christine of hugging toshi ito. He's the guy that i would guide most years. And he's blind and he heard my voice and the look on his face. It was something this is. What makes it kili so special. Wow that's such a great story. I tell people. There's nothing like the achilles tent right before the race. It was unbelievable. Been the first year back in two thousand. Eighteen was my comeback year and everybody was just like so wonderful to me. I mean every is wonderful you. Kelly send whether you're a guide or an athlete. The electricity you every ache and pain that you have goes away when you see an kelly's athletes strapping on a prosthetic leg or lowering himself into a wheelchair or the kills out the grabbing her crutches suddenly like the little the annoying pain you had your ankle completely goes away so so take me through two thousand seventeen. You were sidelined because diagnosis cancer son. Now if i remember correctly doctor said that you were were going to be able to do marathons again or that. This was it i. My doctors knew i was a run. You know we as runners were a little crazy to begin with and when i was diagnosed with metastatic millet. Stage for melanoma with a traditionally for six month prog You had six months to go and then you were gone and the first question my mind is going to do a marathon and the dot. The neurologist is looking at me like this guy is crazy but he nodded. He said i look at you. And i can tell you will and those back to back surgeries eleven hours worth of brain surgery and was the naturalized knee-roll icu and two days after the surgery a nurse came into my room and said. How'd you like to start training right now. And they got me out of bed on a walker and i don't need the walker. She took me by the crooked. My elbow and i did my first lap around the hospital. Says she was your first achilles guide well yes essentially yes christine my wife and my brother about their with their cameras through tears taking pictures of me the sky i hair down to the middle of my back now. My head was completely shaved with these. Two gnarly scars on my skull. I had five tumors to they got through surgery three were inoperable so we got those through radiation therapy but here i am two days out of surgery and i'm doing my first lap around the hospital in my in. My in my my. Booties but it was the most memorable run i've ever done. And that allen is the reason why when joe was compiling a list of runners. I said you need to put alan on this list. Because you are the most inspirational person i've ever met i. I'm grateful to hear that christine. I you know we inspire each other. We will expire each other. When i go to the workouts on on sundays in queens where a flushing meadow park the guides inspire me. I inspire the guides. We we the energy goes back and forth and that is the beauty of being in a either an achilles athlete or an gillies guide. So alan if you can take me through a two thousand eighteen. You've been to the new york city starting line new york city marathon starting line for over thirty years whether running on your own or as a guide so here you are two thousand seventeen. You're not sure if you were coming back. What was it like being on a starting line. Two thousand eighteen. I we get the early start. Ambulatory athletes with disabilities. Get the early start so here. We are at at the foot of the verrazano bridge. Maybe thirty of us. The bridges empty buses are coming from the other direction. On staten island. The race starts and people are honking their horns and cheering us on my guides that year were like good friends. Frank who lives in a house right next to me and philip who lives around the block both said the moment i got sick. They were going to be with me. I was just i. What goes i. It was like being in the super bowl in the world series at the same time. It was like the greatest moment you can imagine. You're sick wearing our names on the backs of our shirts and people are calling our names and it was. The super bowl is a super bowl. And the ninth. Game of the seventh game of the world series. Bottomland ninth score is tied and of course joe. The thing is the pressure. I've been talking about this for like for months and months. Achilles has gotten me press. They've done interviews with bloomberg the local papers local tv stations. I think i'd better finish the all. I don't think there was a doubt in your mind that you will let him gonna tell the team when the most wonderful founder and captain phillies queens. Was i think. I spoke to the day before. Said wendy in like a little nervous about this or is the week before. So you're gonna do it. Shut up and do. She didn't really say that way. But you know it was. It was supportive it was like. Of course you're going to do it. How can you not that. I i can only imagine what you must have been feel on that morning. You know being back after year of what you've been through and then getting back on that starting line that must have just been electric. It's very life-affirming. If you have any concerns about your life. I mean good. Health is the greatest thing you could possibly aspire to. And here i was i i got sick at a very opportune time. They had introduced to college oncological medicine. Something called the menu therapy. Which is not chemo. But it teaches your body your body's immune system to fight cancer and when i started Immunotherapy was like okay. This is your. This is your hail mary. This needs to work metastatic melanoma stage four. There's a six month time period between diagnosis and your expiration date. I had already gone past that almost by almost a year. On that day of marathon sunday i was feeling great and i knew i could finish this race. I was capable of anything. That's nice alan. How are you feeling now. I feel so great. I know we're living in this very challenging moments. All of us collectively but i feel fantastic. I was diagnosed almost three years ago. June but in this past january two and a half years after diagnosis my doctors we did the mariah my brain my lung and everything else and i'm in remission that's the best news hurt remission. It's the most magical were thanks. We continue to fight monitor. But i'm starting to run again. My balance was thrown off significantly up to the brain surgeries i. I walked with with hiking poles and used a cane. But now i'm starting to run. I run with the cane held parallel to the road and the one upside of this whole horrible thing with the pandemic is. There's no traffic here in queens. So i can run comfortably in the street so you have been training during this time. I've enshrining nonstop. I'm doing between forty five and fifty miles a week. Oh my god i have. The thing was guys. When i wasn't working on disability i had plenty of time on my hands. So what would i do. I go out for two hours in the morning. I just walking then maybe running a bit and walking and now i'm doing a lot more running and being careful. Of course i once the tumor in my lung resolve my breathing. Got a little better. I've still got issues a balance. But it's crazy. I need a cane to walk. But i could run without one and i'm not sure my neurologist really can't figure it out either but i'm training yes even though we're not sure about new york city in in november because of all the horrors of the pandemic. I'm treating this moment. As if i'm like training has begun. The six month window has opened allen. That's why we need to talk to you. See i on the other hand and the exact opposite. I was the lady that we used to like. I used to like be jealous. Stay at home moms. And i would say if i was a stay at home mom i would too. I would run. Everyday and i would cook delicious meals. We've been home for seven weeks. And i averaged three to six miles a week. I make sure i go out twice. I do to five days a week. And i walk but i have done the exact opposite of whatever i said i was going to do. And there has not been a delicious mueller. I'll tell you that much whenever we would see like a really pretty girl. I'd be like raw. That's because she stays home. And i am complete opposite of what i thought i was going to do. With my time long. I get out of the morning each day. And i say out loud or not allowed him to wake my wife susan but like every new day gift and i'm thinking okay. I'm on disability. I was in the television business both as a producer and as a performer. And right now everything in that field is nothing's happening. I've got time on my hands. My job as a cancer patient was to get better and part and my doctors. My in colleges my neurologist. All my doctors agree that having a healthy physical base be somewhat physically fit helped me both and getting out of bed right after brain surgery and in my recovery. So i've been treating always treated the walking of the compulsive walking as as as part of my treatment not only immunotherapy and the scans and the radiation but walking copious amounts of walking. Also i think have contributed to my recovery and your positive outlook i try. There are moments of course but i remain positive and sunday mornings or joy with achilles. seeing achilles. new jersey is also joined the times. We've met up the hope and possibility race last last fall. And also on the occasional meet ups. I'm hoping we'll do that again sometime soon. Because those are terrific. I believe we will. I believe we will. So alan we talked about when you started running and we talk about your running career. Let's answer the question. Why do you still run life. Affirmation plain and simple to me. If i can move if i'm out there and i can breathe. I can't be too bad. Things can't be too bad. And especially now if i can wake up my breathing's good. I know my health is good. It's the thing about me is that i need to be in motion doing something on the creator by by nature and when i'm running or walking i'm writing in my mind and i also do quite a bit of painting as well. That was actually a self prescribed occupational therapy the brain surgeries left. Able to sign my name or hold a pen and yeah it was a slow build back to being able to like right. Sign a check. How i knew i was getting sick with susan and asked me to endorse the back of a check and i forgot how to write my name. Tumors were starting to really present. So i guess physical therapy. I could patient therapy all comes in the way of walking. And running the cassette. I'm thinking about. What will i paint. Today what will i write. Today i wrote a sitcom during a twenty mile training. Walk for one of the marathons. So you know. People think we're self-indulgent as runners to some degree but there's a lot of creativity. There's a lot of good things a lot of productivity that comes from being out on the road or in the street or in the woods. That's where i usually do my honeydew as i'm running. I'm like when joe comes home. I'm gonna have to make sure that. Or i usually some honestly what i my lesson plans. While i'm running this week we're going to be doing roaming history. And maybe i can get this resource. I do a lot of reflecting of might of teaching while i'm running. I think christine should spend more time with you allen. And maybe she can write some more things and dropped the honeydew list manure. Well my my real job was. It was a tv producer which is an organizer by nature. So when i'm out running it's my own self honeydew list. What am i going to do today. I should probably do. It should do the laundry. Call my account and paint a picture right a story. So that's the. That's the me time because when i go running i people think it's stupid. I leave my phone home so the excuse me so there's no interruption. There's no hanging. There's no ringing and if i get hit by a car god forbid i've got a piece of paper in my pocket with my wife's phone number on it. I'm still so amazed that from two thousand seventeen where you were learning how to write your name again to. I'm so excited. I didn't know that you were training. I didn't know you were running again. And that you're you're starting to run again and you're looking training for the new york city marathon. I think that just an an amazing amazing success story. It helps with forward thinking also honestly. I'm sixty two. My running isn't quite what it was thirty years ago. And i admit to that. And sometimes i don't know how to compare myself to before i got sick but i can get out even fast walk. I run a block. I walk a block. I run a-block blah blah blah and. That's good enough for me alan. You mentioned that. You had aspirations of having a i forget what time you said like in the three. Did you ever achieve that in all your years of new york. City marathon christine. I will tell you that as somebody over hydrates it was. Never i i after i really got over the fact that i was never gonna break three i. I aspired to break four hours and the year that came close. I drink more water than any human should drink. I was stopping at every porta potty. I came in at four zero one last porta-pottys stop in central park. I'd lost me. My i and then as i tell. People are always nervous about doing a marathon or a half marathon even five k. Don't worry about how long it takes just had the best day of your life for me. It's always been about enjoying like we have. Our group runs on sunday for my wife. And i we spend a lotta time doing our run together and it's just that time together of just running training with others and then when it comes to the starting line that's just a celebration that's all it is. It's i don't care what time i come in. I don't care what place it's just really reflection what it took to get there. That's right you're out there enjoying the crowds in new york city marathon. You've got three million people. I think lining the streets from brooklyn all the wait a minute that manhattan and then central park and you put your name on your shirt and everybody's calling your name when i did that. My first comeback marathon in two thousand eighteen. I hadn't they my back in my shirt. And everybody's calling out to me and mike guides looked at me. It's said. has everybody know you said my name's on the back of my shirt. Frank haven't done the marathon so many times. Last year was was my first time completing the full marathon. What's your favorite part of the race. Favourite mile marker favorite landmark. I like arriving in queens. Getting up the pulaski bridge into long island city. I'm mcqueen's guy. And i used to love to tell my athletes. When was guiding. This is where i live and then the translator would say that my japanese athletes. This is where allen's son lives and they'd say oh here and it's not exactly here but i like the i like queens and of course the final turn into central park is always a relief. But i think the queen's legs always my favorite. It's the opportunity for anybody who lives in my neighborhood to get on the subway ride. The three stops and actually seamy pass by. And that's the halfway point correct. Yes i'm polaski bridge. It's a little past the halfway point. When you get into queens so allen we have a segment called the finish line questions and these are just some rapid fire questions that christine's going to throw at you. I'm ready christie ready. Okay ready allen. Here's your finish line first question. What is your favorite race. That you've ever run the new york city marathon softball your favorite distance the half marathon your post race meal spaghetti and is there a go to song southern that you get pumped up to. I know a lot of us. Don't listen to music when we're running as guides are athletes. But is there a song gets you pumped up. I like running on empty. And of course the springsteen stuff always works for me too. I like rim mcqueen's guy of the ramones from queens. i like. Hey ho let's go. You know blitzkrieg bop. I liked ramon step to like punk punk. Hits me go and as well nice. I didn't think that i wouldn't think. I wanna talk about you. Learn about somebody that's all. I have john so alan. Is there anything that we didn't cover that you want to mention abou- running about achilles about just about anything. I just say to friends and family and anybody who wants to know. Just get up get outta bed. Have a cup of coffee and get out walk. Run enjoy the day and just celebrate really just celebrate especially now you know with all this stuff going on just celebrate. Be grateful puts things in perspective for and. I'm grateful that you had me as a guest. I su- i. I really enjoyed this now. The honor is all ours please. Really we wouldn't have been able to have any achilles podcast without having you on this show allen would never joe see you at. We've met up a couple times every time we're in a car. We have such long conversations about and about how you inspire us in. And i'm not just saying that it is just listening to your stories. In the way you articulate an you know there's no whoa is me in in you know i just complain. I had a bad toe when i laid on the couch and complain not running and and then sometimes we'll joe will say to me. You know you know alan's out there and you really do inspire me. I that that means a lot to me. Hearing that i i've i've learned that if you can't if if you can't take the lemon you know this sounds corny and so try to make lemonade out of the lemon. I got. I got a lemon. But if i can inspire and help others just from what i've learned through being sick and getting better and meeting wonderful people like you and and achilles new jersey and achilles queens then the this is the gift thank you for your gift test. Thank and thank you for sharing it with us. I appreciate it all right so there you habit. We learned why alan runs. Allan kaufman from achilles queens. Thank you very much allen and talk to you soon. Thanks again thanks christine. Thanks joe all right. Time to connect with helen and get an update on the run every day challenge. Take it away. Hello what's up my beautiful people. Welcome back to the podcast. I appreciate every single one of you for tuning in and out. Whatever you're doing keep it up. You're doing amazing as some of your doing some run shree some of you as well as encouraging to see putting in that hard work and you deserve all the credit. We're gonna push it now too week five. So this is what we're going to do up the energy a little bit and the first few weeks. The energy was calmer. But now we're going to start pushing it a little bit and the early morning since it's getting hot out there. I want you guys to get out there and run three to five miles minimum it could be conversational pace which means you should be able to run at that pace where you can have a conversation. And then in the evening when it's cooler again. I want you guys to get out there and run some interval or temple rent ran for one minute as hard as you can walk for a minute and a half and repeat that five to eight times so we're working on or stamina and we're working on or speed and that added to the compositional baseball on. That's going to help us when we get to the bay of all of this when you're ready for that race that you're preparing for thanks. Everyone for listening. We really hope you enjoyed those amazing stories. They are truly inspiring. People we get to talk to here in our forever grateful. Make sure the share this episode with your friends via social networks. We need these athletes and guides stories to get out there until next time. I'm joe and i'm christine. Thank you for listening.

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Dungeons & Dragons (2000), Ep. 12: Finale

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Dungeons & Dragons (2000), Ep. 12: Finale

"Rope right con does not own any parts of the movies we read kind nor we associate anyway with the artist who make them also while. We're not the rowdiest bunch. We are adults goofing off so we might see some things. Some people might not want their kids to hear this series ensures music by me. Check him out on the dark piano dot com previously on the dungeons and dragons movie as nordell leads them into the woodland realm of the ills. There they meet the druid elf. Tom baker snails was such a good person. He was there you know like intrinsically good you know like a person who's good to the core. That's what snails bites. You arrive at the destination on the map. A cave hail you. Why did and so. I'm going to take this there. Although i didn't considered rather like the person we're going to be giving us to be alerted me. Think think maybe you know he really wouldn't be of any good thing to force this on the empress so young. I've done a lot of growing from pretty wise. 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Murdering might need to wait a little bit four. All right elwyn yes. It's your turn. I don't like this guy is making me really angry. And i rate that's right. I'm very angry and very small but have a big axe. And i'm going to beat him up with my axe right now. He's got about five guards directly between you and him now son of god. I gotta take them out. I find okay. So i'm going to go to the closest guard. That's in my way. And i'm going to go smack at that big elax i'm gonna so that is a fourteen fourteen. Hit that big old guard in front of you which does not hit heck rachel role high. I will also frenzy. Who's it made me mad. The madyan nineteen nineteen hits. Oh good plus definitely and fourteen damage you swing your acts and bounces off his shield and then you spin around the other direction and catch him in the neck and he goes down nora pulls out her bow loses a niro and just barely misses the guy next to him and she moves around to the north trying to better vantage point damodar pulls his sword out of its sheep and then he raises his hand and cast a spell. You mervyn as raises his hand. A spectral skeletal. Hand shoots from his hand and strikes out at you know. Gross girls girls girls while you're spells gross. He gets a fourteen. Is that your be your. Ac is my agency so beats it. Now i have third. Okay man he does max. He does eight damage to you and ask the skill hand strikes. You feel a chill. That goes to your very core. And you can't regain hit points until the start of your next turn. No no just as an fyi. What was that cold professional courtesy. It's called me kicking your ass. You're not very professionally cutty. F not a good luck. It's not gonna look the resume. I i all ready have a job. You want for log guards. Turn two of them. Come up and try to attack you. Elwyn one got a big old eight creature. That's head no and the other one rolled the exact same thing. Wow okay cool Let's see another one goes another to after northe- that one hits it does damage northe- all right rid lead to morgan and run it. You they come in with their swords and a ten has attend. Sit on you sit on you at all. The other one gets even lower. What's wrong with his die. I gotta change it. No keep using that one. All right and Melvin one gets across oab shoots. You're not allowed to do that. I'm not allowed to chew with a crossbow. Oh mervyn melvin so much off the tongue better unless the seventeen hits you melvin emergence. Are you really doing this by accent. I am doing it by accident. Even called melvin. So much it's just autocrats in my brain You take you take four damage from the crossbow will now sticking in your shoulder. This is a lot of damage. Some more damage. Hey you wanted to pop this off of the fight. Ridley church turn. You've got two boys on you. Got two boys on me and they're within tic- of an ally of mine correct excellent. Okay so i'm going to attack boy on the left left and i'm going to use my My sneak attack. Because i can add advantage because i have a conscious ally within five feet of the target and that means image so I'm going to stab him with my relief. Fancy rape here. And let's see i rolled. That's at six deputy. Doesn't it all right mervyn. I i look at the rod into the ride. And i going to be honest with you. Alex everytime imagine this thing. I just imagined like the time travel sector from the third ninja turtles movie. That's an interesting way to look at it. Let me see around. Find a picture and send it to you. I think of the fire. Ride from the legend zelda. Yeah yeah like. It's got orb in the in the top of it like a crook. Maybe yes okay. Anyway i look at this ride and i go right. You won't be use you. I'll obliged if there's any dragon nearby but can hear this. We need to ask the point. And i try to use the rod Do you lift it up in the air. That seems like something. I would do pleading pleading haven't you to make me dexterity. Saving through okay. This is good. Because i have plus one to all saving throws because of my new fancy cloth and i also have just pretty good dexterity. Saving begin with so. I made a thirteen. Thirteen is not quite good enough to stop the imp that flies from behind you snatching the rod out of your hands. I'll come on and he flies it directly to dammit are seriously dan madonna. Imps you imps. Now what can i say. He's my best friend. I'm gonna murder. That son of a bitch come up with some kind of clever pun. Like impossible or something. I couldn't get it get it. They're in prison now. It is back to elwyn so Those two guards that have tried to hit me are still on me right. Yes all right. I'm gonna go after them all right there right there for you. Since fifteen hits fifteen does not hit okay and then the frenzy create twenty on that one eight twenty hit that. Oh all right. So there's a lot of things going on with this particular attack right now ellen because you have a vicious acts it adds seven to the damage since you roll the crib. Not only does it. Add plus seven. It's already the max stein numbers. Let's twelve. I believe yes so. Twelve plus seven nineteen plus your straight modifier Yes plus also rage as another and then you would add another each wealthed. Top of all of them. So you did. Yes which cuts yard clean in half Oh he's he's he's completely dead right. That's to all right. The one i'm calling to my left. Nora unleashes a hail of arrows and mrs one guard but hits another and kills him damage. Dr takes a moment to look over the rod. He turns and smiles at you all and says guards kill them. I will take this prize back to some. And he turns us harsh walking away. It's the guards. Turn me make a will. Why guess a wisdom saving throw now for the guard attacking you. He got an at twenty on monday. That buzzer been used for now. You gotta do. It was in that twenty. Just one burn burn So he just he. He's not scared that elwyn just completely destroyed his best friend in the world and he's gonna attack elwyn. It's the battle rage and he got a fifteen to hit ellen. No sucker another one runs up to you elwin who and he got nineteen it just barely raises me and he does nine damage to you just bear but just barely nine danna just barely just barely ridley. Yes one hits it you for. I can't math all of a sudden fourteen now. Don't miss his next to him. Gets a net won the net one buzzer really helmi higher low low low and it is low. He e accident like you. He's coming into stab you. And you pivot your rapier in just the right way that he stabs his friend instead and he does max damage to his friend killing him instantly. Wow that was really unfortunate. Hey guys i killed someone of its. You protected us all. thank you. Couple more attack noriega and they get they run up an order and they do a little bit of damage to her. I'm not going to calculate it. And then mervyn a couple more cross will come in at you. How does a six look at your mervyn. Beat me for. Its does not be to you all right. How about a fifteen now that that does do it. Take three points of damage mervyn. It's my turn. So i still had these two boys in front of me right. Uh-huh done stab one on the one on the left again. That one of one of them died because you deflected the other blade and killed him. Well i'm going to kill the other. Wouldn't or joey other then oh snap. Our all sixteen was oneplus. Five is twenty two. That's right when you hit them a lot. I hit him a lot all right now. I'm going to roll for damage row for that damage. I believe since you're one on one you've got your sneak attack damage. I didn't thank you. So that's wendy. Eight plus two d six plus your dexterity modifier yes and plus one from the magical sword with lord mana low though so that's five eight eleven. Twelve twelve the damage. That is just enough to kill. This boy killed the boy. So i don't have any other boys on no boys on new. Currently all right. I'm going to try in run around and catch up to dimitar all right. You said you use your action. You can only make it up one of your movements. He can't quite catch up to him yet. Plus there are more guards in between you and him all right. How many guards are left in. The end is first clump. At least there are fifteen. Bros can kill fifteen guards. I don't want to kill fifteen people if it helps. They're all very bad none. None of them pay their taxes. Okay by your reckoning. Wesley sites deserves to die in battle. I mean i'm not gonna say that anyway dm. I did three things by the way. I hope you'll let me do this. Retroactively but between sessions. I did three things versus from from last long. Rest did my -portant. What are those numbers of ten and twelve ten twelve about. I tuned my want of wonder to me. Yes you would have been able to do that. And the The elven situation. And i also change some of my spells to be more killy more battle battle spells but i actually becomes active. Yeah i think actually might want to use the wand of wonder. I think i might not have a good chance to use it and again so all right. Let's use the wand of wonder before. I die in this case. Jesus let's say you're outside of the cave so you've got that going for you. I've done it. This is the right book. Yeah bucket lists complete No authorized by the way. I'm looking at this rod and it is gross. It's gross ride. Looks like tool rude and annette succeeded. You've got up there in front of you looking to lower album. Just kidding that would be a compliment Do you remember what the wand of wonder does i throw a d. one hundred. I know that and i i while holding it. You can spin an action to expand one of his charges to choose a target with one hundred and twenty feet of you one hundred charter creature. Yes the target can be a creature an object or point in okay. How far away as to. How about one. Hundred eighty damon. Well guy's gonna let you do that. Yeah okay but can target these guards that are between ridley and and you can definitely target one guard. Okay right or an area that the area where they're all clumped up because they're dummies right. I mean a lot of them are dummies. Do you wanna roll a d one or shall i i. I'm gonna do it. I got it right here. So that's a that's a ten and a three thirteen thirteen. You are stunned until the start of your next turn combining something awesome just happened but what was it You see this bright like it's just happening in your eyes but a bright fireball explodes at the point that you picked with us want and you're like i could blow up the whole goddamn world with this thing but in fact nothing happened and it quickly dissipates. And you see that it was all in lucien all the rods and winds in this game are letting me down. They're not they're definitely not your friend. This wanda blender just look silly silly. It's all right elwyn so Is there still a guard within mainly range of me. Definitely okay but that getting worry don't like that so there were five guards around me and then there were four For them died in two. There's one that ran up to me. And i missed him so now how many more are in between me and and that bastard. That's getting away between you and damodar. There's at least five more. There's at least two up there next to you. I think and several between you and him. I guess i have to attack the one. That's in maili range of me because it's not. It's not like i can look at him. And say hey. Could you just excuse me for a minute. i'll come back. i'll come back to you later. I'm me talk to your boss. I'd like to speak to your manager. Please okay so seventeen to hit. Seventeen hits slate. Eighteen damage eighteen damaged. Destroys this man. Fantastic is there. Anybody else in melee range. There's at least one more boy in your melee range sir. And he's a young boy. Oh yeah does he have a weapon aimed at me definitely well. Then that's just to connect okay so sixteen sixteen meets right. I think that's the magic number. I'm going to write that down all right another eighteen. You do a lot of damage. He goes down destroyed. The you've destroyed my boy okay. So now is there any other garden. Me lay range no okay. So i'm going to use my twenty five feet of movement to get closer to damodar. All right you move closer to damodar and into the range of more guards yet. Hey i i guess i have to go through them to that's right Speaking of its now nordeste turn she fires and aero and kills one of the guards in front of you elwyn steak and then she tries to shoot one at damodar and mrs seeing the arrow flypast him. He turns once more to smirking. You as he raises his gauntlet at hand and a portal opens up in front of him. He gives a little salute with the rod and steps through. I mean you want to use it a lot better than i did. The guards attack elwyn one gets a nineteen. Yeah it's does seven points damage. She and the other misses you. Pretty badly ridley. You were up near elwyn and elwyn killed the the two guards that were near her. So there's none by you but another one shoots possible that you and gets a fourteen no soccer mrs ship Another one runs up to you. Ridley and rolls a nine also doesn't hit. This isn't going to be very exciting. I can hit. Y'all speaking of mervyn one levels is the the other across what levels at it you fires and gets a natural one. Wow all right. i don't even know me higher low high. I it is low so nothing happens to him. The guard runs up to order and swings. His sword gets a nineteen. I would like to use my portent. Okay what would you like to substitute. I'm gonna use tint. That ten does not add up to beat nor does defense and he missed amos her all right ridley. It's not your turn now my turn now. I have a guy on me again. Another guy another guy olive on you. He was sending all of the guy. He's all right. Oh okay his name right. I am going to try and stab this guy stabbing. Oh no why role now is not a wine. It's a two. i like these important. Your portent okay. So your other important was a twelve. I believe right. Yes so really. What was your modifier to add to that. My modifier to add that was Six to seventeen seventeen hits sexually took eighteen. Why six plus twelve eighteen. Oh i'm sorry i was. I was looking at the five on my like leaving at the five. Because then i have to add an additional wind and i just thank you. It wasn't eighteen well anyway. Eighteen hours for hits. Yeah it still. It's still hits and notes eighteen. It's got a weird number like he saves everything sixteen and eighteen. Okay he's the only one within waiting. Okay i'm gonna use my sneak attack sneaking attack right so i'm gonna do to sixes then i'm gonna do my d. eight so that who this time it's Seventeen plus three is twenty. Plus one is twenty one now. You skewer him yeah goes down all no one's around me. No one is around you and that still open. It is still open. I'm going to try and make some more headway to it. All right you make your way up to where ellen and her other guard friends are. I guess to start moving. I i'm gonna try to make my way up to where they are Probably need to make a whole to get through them And i'm going to use scorching rate do that. Oh yeah yes i am. I'm i'm i'm blow to level to spell slot. Nice i believe that. Is you get three. Raise re race to hit creatures and raped as two d six fire damage if i actually hit them. Where where do you want. You can direct all these race at a single creature or spread them out. I want to spread them out to to see if i can make up make a bit of a a a path through the the the demos here to make my way to my friends. I gotcha so i'm going to do that. All right. Just like the three. That's like in the middle. I guess pick up three random guards to kill Do i have to do three attack rolls or what. Yes okay well. One of them is a frigging twenty-five that hits one of them is less than that at Nine nine misses and one of them is another twenty five that hits right roll. Roll two sixes for one and two sixes for another one guy takes ten damage. The guy takes all right. You sere both of these guys standing in front of elwyn pretty badly but they are still up and one of yours goes wide and to the sky and hits a bird now. It doesn't and the bird goes. Wow angie and i liked this you were gonna make it lighter speak and then you're like now i don't want to open the standi. We gonna talking birds if we won but you would you like introducing that at this point is not. I'm not gonna do that. I couldn't think of anything funny to say all right. So is there anybody in maili range. There's plenty of people may lorraine's now right. So i'm going to look at them and growl at them and see if any of them. Run away on intimidations check on me. Yes maybe they watched me drop all their friends some of them in half and might go eighteen four of them. Turn and run. Okay did anybody stay in. Melee range stupidly. What one is still mainly range. All right so that's a nineteen and is twenty three years and he's debt told him not to stay. He should've listened all right so For them are gone and then one is on the ground and there was a portal. Is the puerto still. The portal is still open. all right. well. I'm going to use my movement to go towards the portal and try to shout. Just you're on for for my friends to join me With your twenty five speed of movement you have left. You gets halfway there. Northe- has has that boy on her She draws her long sword and puts it square through his middle and drops in and then she starts running up to to join you. All the cards for the ran two of them are going to run up to elwin. Connive them hit you one of them shoots a profitable that bourbon thirteen mervyn. That's what got that's my man. I thought it was going to miss you as five damage. Not dead yet. None yet another to run of you to ridley really has an eighteen. Sit with you. Well it hurts. It hurts you gets me. And it does eight damage. She ridley l. k. Thank you the other mississippi though and is now ridley's turn okay. Got two boys on you. So he just did eight point damage. Is that okay all right. There's another boy on me now. Well the two boys on you these boys get off of me. All right. i'm gonna roll to stab wounds that i got a one time time. It is ridley firm go last time. I said i'm going to go. Hi this time. it is low but happens to me. Tm what happens. Ridley you go to stab the sky and you miss and your rapier sticks into a log. That's just behind the other guy get stuck. Oh no okay it and that would take a whole action to pull it out. I i would let you use your movement to pull it out. Okay give me a strength. Check eight nine. Nine is good enough. God okay What other fun spells out here. I'm going to use magic missile. Because if i left this whole campaign go by and never use magic missile. That's going to be done. People will be mad at him i can. I can spread this went out to right. I believe it gives you three glowing darts. Each one automatically hits a creature of your choice within range and deals one d four plus one forced damage. Yup yup yup. That's exactly what happens. i guess. I'm still trying to make this whole in front of me like an actually move past these guys So i want to that to that end i still want to spread this attack out. Three wave And i will fire my missiles. You could hit The boys that you already hit with the The scorching raise yeah. I think i'm going to do that now. With magic missile. Somebody just hit. They just hit right. They automatically hit so you can just pick how many she went to send toward each one and then roll damage. I'm gonna hit one can only go for two guys. We're gonna hit one the guy that's weaker with one dart and the guy that didn't get hit with as much scorch with darts. Sounds like a good. It's a good plant dammit. Roll roll. Roll your one. Roll your one dart attack well. It wasn't great. I got to i got to. He's dead. oh great He was he was on. Death's door already. Cool your dart hits him directly between the eyes and he just falls down like a sack of potatoes. That's the first person i've ever killed your murderer now. Towns does not hip mervyn like that anymore. Five damage you hit him with two darts and they hit him in the shoulders and he goes how how humanize them and now. It's that heard i was. I was going to use that arm to go bowling later with my family. Does better you guys for my corrupt benefactor. It's elwin stor so now that all right so who is there anybody in between me and the portal in are they may reach their about three left around the portal. You have to you have to get up to him to get in melee range but you can get there. Do they look scared of me. They don't look scared to be yet but they do. Oh well i'm going to run up to them in scariest. Where possibly can't i'm gonna put on. My beats barbarian face all right roll. A big scary barbarian intimidation scare barium. Scary is actually a fifty fifteen two of them. Get scared and run through the portal. One stanzas ground. While i'm gonna attack him tech k plus five sixteen sixteen hits me to beats the nineteen damage. Damage destroys this boy to loses to eros kills. The one that mervyn has been majete matching for awhile book. Thank you and kills the last boy. Can i see it can see into the portal. And what you see is is kind of odd. You were kind of new to some doll but you got a pretty good chance to look around. What you see is the city on fire. Oh like all of it. Are we talking. Like the end of game of thrones like as much as you can see is fire. The city's on fire get through the portal quickly. We have to go. Let's go through the portal. You all dash into the portal and just make it before it closes behind you. I lose a little bit of the bottom of my cloak. You lose one third of your clue. It's our biggest game guys. I think i think be a cape person meal. finale. 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But i think it's time to episodes okay. Also spoiler alert spoiler but i just printed jokes eileen after this also really quick been popping back here in the future because i forgot to charlie for being on this episode. You're about to hear him coming up. Now thanks a lot charlie. Okay bye guy five. Show return to some known to see the city in flames. Gold and red dragons. Fill the sky doing battle and raining down blood and fire. You're on top of a tower in front of you is a large group of mejia's standing at the parapets throwing fire and lightning out into the sky trying to bring down these dragons that are besieging this tower and just behind them standing next to damodar is with the rod of surreal raised to the sky. It's orb it's jim beaming out with light from the sky guy's really get a surprise round. We're gonna rule initiative to see how you act within the surprise round. They won't acted till the following round. So i'm gonna use my inspiration. Okay and i'm going to try to strike which in whichever arm he's holding up the road you'll just use your inspiration to get advantage on that attack. Yes that's my big cinematic goal. Yeah let me. Just see how it goes. Oh eight a profane. I believe that beats your. Ac said that would be a twenty five. Yeah i believe you've got major armor cast right now. You've got a fifteen. Ac proven yeah. It hits you all right roll. Roll your critical damage there. Elwyn twenty six. I was gonna roll my frenzy. Also now is not as good. That was a fifteen. Oh wow that's fourteen damage elwyn you bring down. Your acts on provence upraised arm and you hit and you hidden. It's a big meaty shung just taking out of it and the rod goes flying forward and he spins around to face you and you bring that acts at him again a flash and your acts touches them. But it's like you you just tap it against a stone wall as spell just manifest surrounded. Do you think you can really steal destiny right ridley. Go in the surprise around. See dimitar there. And it's back to me and i just cried so angry and i'm so full of grief in mourning and i just go to stab him in running through. I tried to win a who. I wrote an eighteen and he is within five. Seat of my ally has definitely mono mono mono monarch yes. I'm gonna use might sneak attack. Thirteen damage thirteen dims. You sneak up behind amador and you thrust rapier through his side and you get a good bit of meat in there might meet. That meat is for snails mervyn. What about the ride. It just got thrown out of his hand. Oh hand all right you reach out major hand and you snatch the rod. Still how many dragons there. There are hundreds of dragons. Oh my gosh. Some of them are read. Some of them are gold. What you know is the red dragons for begin told by the relatives of real aka. Provia bad dragons. The empress's rod controls gold dragons which are good dragons aka. They're on your side so just imagine drag. It is now l. winston all right so you i'm ready to kill stuff so who's near me in melee range that i don't like your next appropriate. Okay here we go ohno. This is bad. it's bad along. The negative wise negative one to negative experience. A you know what to do. L. one to say i'm gonna go. Wow but do you know what i ruled going to whether i want to a fifty one so that will be high. Dang elwyn you swing your acts. I do at profound and it hits this magical shield is put it around himself and it just like shakes itself rather handed ghost getting across the tower movement. Oh but then he would get an integral opportunity he would but he doesn't. He's holding anything in his hands early so he would be making an unarmed attack instrument. Yeah no. I'm going to get my aunts all right so you run off tour. Get your acts. He does get an attack against you. And mrs you know. He doesn't even do the attacker already. He just like away from me. Present say that. Get away from me. Hasn't see it is now pro. Fiennes turn time to die and i'm going to ask cone of cold. How shit that's a scary. What does he have a wind. He actually produces a staff just from his by from not just like a it comes directly from his. But you didn't see he see me. Open my coat and takes otherwise people. Just you took stuff out of your. Who do you wanna drink this cone at. it's a cone. Can i directed at all of them. Not all of them Directly in front of you is a little bit. Further away is northe- and mervyn a little bit of to your left is ridley attacking damn dr off to your right chasing after acts is ellen guess some going to cast elwin who seems like the biggest threat so far so you shoot a blast of cold air. We'll be profane blast. A jet of cold air from his hands and elwood make a constitution saving through. I was really hoping it was going to be decks. Why constitution should be your bag. Because i have advantage on deck safes fourteen on the die plus three so seventeenth that does beat his cell safe at so you're going to take half of eighty eight all right. So that's forty so you take twenty twenty damage ellen. My gosh tis a level. Four level five. we're level for is what i'm saying. Oh yeah did you expect the main bad guy to be like a pushover. Releaser turn turn. I'm this dr steven again. Oh i saw that inspiration. I didn't use to roll again. Look at nah. I rolled a two and a four hanging really one secret. Neither of those hit thank. You probably wasn't much of a secret. What about four plus. Five plus mine. Which is tim o. Ten yeah yet still. Isn't it I'm sorry it's now rs turn come to die like your friend thief. He says that she s sweets as long ridley. How does a math on this eleven issue. Doesn't he misses. He misses you. Mrs with the furniture. Turn to quip. Now it can't spit on him You go to spit on him but he swings his sword again. How does eleven hit you it. Doesn't he swings again and as his he finishes the arche do spit on him and he goes cuties. Nora turn nor two fires. An arrow at dama dr hits mex- damage to damodar. She does thirteen points. A damage to damodar fire another detail. She's gonna miss and hit one of the majors behind him. And that may dis mervyn. I check behind quick just sort of looked behind me real quick. Look behind you real quick and there's nothing there all right good good. Good good I raise the rudder in the air once again. Try this the second time it. I go Red dragons the fall of us. We are your friends the rest of them to be on the tower. All your enemies. The gold dragons are also your friends. Lots of friends here for you. Lot's of tasty guys on the outside the guy with the blue lips and the obama. He's a he's like caviar basically. I'm and the guy beside him is like a noticing for the ones like new shakes as you channel all of this nonsense the raw supposedly. I suppose is supposed to be chanting. Give me an are cana- chip all right. Let's plus five seventeen. Seventeen plus five is twenty q as you lift the rod in the air and and search your will into it you noticed drag the red dragons stop attacking the gold dragons. Okay okay. that's good and that's about as much as you can do right now. Well all right. You know what that's a success. I'm calling that a success elwyn yes. It's your turn again all right so Now that i have retrieved hacks which which fat guys are left near me a damodar and are still up all right. I'm gonna go for a so damaged. Dark should be closer to me. Since i had to run off to get my actually run the opposite direction of damodar so profane is between you and dr all right well. He's not that stupid shield. Can i run in heart. A wave mainly range from Proofing and try to get to run around and try to get up to damodar. Yeah how far apart are they from each other there about ten feet away your about fifteen away from provia so can i place myself in between them and then swing at each one of them not each one of them do a little too far away for that trading shield. Same Hits seventeen minutes. All right your ex bites into dammit ours back and he howls out new pain still. He's still going so. I'm going to do my other. Swing swinging mcginn. Nineteen plus five is twenty four also hit. Let's see fifteen damage being all right. You take your accent bite into him again and he's still up a hey look angry metoo provia. That's right. I'm really use a misty step and the teleport just behind nolan okay. I don't care what your name is. you're gonna say it anyway. That was a bonus action motherfucker. He gets you. Missy step is a bonus action missy says is a bonus action. I wish. I know that in the bar and He's going to attempt to grab the emergency. Oh give me that you meddling this. This'll be fun. This is a contested street between. We both windows. Yeah definitely i. I'm like new key it's mine. It's my rock now. I found it. I have not spent my whole life training as a made for some snivelling. Wimpy you again. Give that back. Well i'm might have it. What did you roll. Roll charlie which you roll man you wanna tell me what your role. I ran the to you really putting up a fight. So you're you're both like holding onto the run just like like liberal slapping each other with your other hand. It's like no it's fine. Give it my gosh couple images ridley short turn. I'm going to stab this guy a gin stab this guy once again. I'm going to try to hold a for again. No it's against me. So i i believe. Let me look this up equipment since elwin is kind of flanking with you. Let me see that gives you an advantage on your your tackle. I'm going to say that you have advantage for your flanking were friends. I just googled it. And it says that i do yeah. Come on come on ice roller do it. For this time please inform okay. Okay so i rolled a ten plus five fifteen. Plus one is sixteen. Sixteen gets his ac okay. So i still have advantage. So that means i can do think correct. Yeah okay so. Six is eight bats. This one's actually really good. So i've got eleven. Plus seven is eighteen. Plus three is twenty. One plus one is twenty two as you grabbed him by the shoulder. Ram years reindeer home. What are you in a whisper into his ears as the light goes out of his. Is you know flight damodar. You had plenty of chances to avoid this year right. Damned are falls limp to the ground. Mervyn it's your turn and you wrench rod out of perfumes hands. I knew it was you. I knew you play dirty pool. You had my master kill. Didn't you have you not seen what the empress's plans of wrought. She's ruled this hand. This land empire weekly and that has led to my right is this land. Needs to be ruled an iron. His you fool you think that you have the sceptre there in your hand and pull my other hand out from behind my back you see. The sceptre appears in clenched fist. I have the real sceptre and booze older. Well i'll trade. Why would i trade. You should just drop that piece of trash on the floor and leave your also very close to die. You can still make it out with your lives. All right at the risk of showing charlie's hand rolling insight. Check charlie roll a roll of deception. Check no in. Fact is going to run off your gear spell. Dc proficient it's fifteen. Gifting betas spelled e. of his allusion of the roddy pulled up from behind. These people that live in the city are not your walk. Tools are not your jet to walk upon. They live here and they deserve to live here much as you do more than you. Do you deserve to live here. At all. And i would like to Just like hit him as hard as i can with the Well if i cast the spell he gets to do something to me. I can't do it if i'm right next door attack. It's a it's a. it's a simple weapon. I expect you add your proficiency to basically just like a club okay. I'm seventeen and i do for damage profusion hurls over the edge of the pair. Will you know what they say about pride and all as profile falls a trimmer shoots up through the tower and the majors apathy. Each of the tower sorts of around as a glaze drops from there is as if they were other some sort of weird and a lot of them. Start looking back and forth. Something start dropping to their knees holding their heads in their hands if they can't believe what they've done. Bourbon yourself. hold on that rod. What's what's happening here. The dragons in the sky no longer fighting you stop that the red dragons who's kind of sitting there awaiting your command. Tell them mervyn bourbon. You feel this immense power that you now have you can control red drags you can shape the world's be whatever you want it down and rebuild it in your own image. I turned to ridley an elwyn. And i say but would you do. Well you know after. I got a pet dragon for myself. That will fly around everywhere and be my very best friend in the whole world and feed it snacks to after i did i would set the other one's free. They deserve to be free. I would break it like you. you Release pat for now on. And i. I sort of wave it at one of the the red dragons and it comes down physically and goes and i go in. I like put my hand out so it can sniff. It extends talent. Paul and like it puts the tip of its flaw in your hand and shakes me. The rest of you are free. And i turn to elwyn. And i hold the rod out horizontally and i go right it good riddance to this thing explodes shards of everywhere and a great light flashes from then all goes quiet and the dragons fly away including the one. That was your best friend. Wrigley itself free at the smell. Okay by best friend but if you wanna come back and we'll hang out sometime. Please do. Because i miss you. I love you. And i'm so lonely. He waves assailants. You in and gives you the wing before he flies. What's his name. He didn't tell me. I don't speak dragon. His his name was. Roy aren't good name. Hopefully the impacts won't be to manage as the yellow rod is sadly enough right. I'm not. I'm not gonna lie to you. That felt really bad when you broke it like. I really wanted to keep it. Like really really bad. Nordell puts her hand on your shoulder and says you did the right thing. Peace has been restored to some the majors return. The empress back to power restored her underthrown and she used oliver power to bridge the gap between major and commoner and finally spread equality through everyone in the city and the kingdom and just before ridley and l. wins big ceremony. You find yourself at a quiet graveyard just outside. The city eve laid a stone grave out for snails ridley year and it's splendid new leather armor. Elwin urine fancy armor you've got all the fanciest firs riches that the king of of spoiled upon you both and you have a minute before the ceremony that say one last goodbye to your friend. He snails you've been my best friend and my brother since we were little and i really valued our time together so much and i appreciate everything you've done for me and i appreciate our time. We did get to spend together in. I know that i wouldn't be here without you. And i'm sorry that you didn't get to enjoy the ceremony. Today you would have liked so cute in all of your nice gear. You should see mine. It's pretty silly. how nice it is. But i love you buddy. Thank you for always being there for them. And i'm gonna put a sandwich on his grave. I'll put a portable spell here but keep up. Keep the bugs away here. It'd be property bugs. Galway do i will take javelin that i have wrapped the the head of it with Fabric that i've soaked in some oil and it and then jam it into the soil at the at the headstone and say snails. You died a death of honor a warrior's death. Thank you for your seconds. We couldn't have done this a little further on nor to walks up to you and she gives you a little bow and says i'm sure he would be moved by all of your words and kindness abe but maybe you can tell them yourself and she turns and behind her. Is tom baker. And he's helping. Walk a rather frail looking snails. Well technically i did. But i mean. Resurrection smells don't come cheap. But i guess when you guys make friends of an empress. I wanna give him a very tender hug. Hug you back. I i go up to snails and kind of just gently kinda poke at him a little. Bit like your pokes. Elwin are are quite substantial pokes especially to spray boys like like snails any goes out l. I'm very. I'm very real sorry. 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Hour 1: KD's Summer Plans

First Take

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Hour 1: KD's Summer Plans

"Who saw this comment three straight to the raptors Kawai and the rappers had the box on the brink of elimination after a huge win in game five last night. Welcome into I take will Cain sitting in for Molly camera max, I got Stephen what's up fella's going on? You've got your global entry yet. Stephen better not max. Gee, I appreciate you rub. You rub it in the buck mind. Got some work to do to save you from some long customs lines because quite is thirty five points, nine seven rebounds, a Trump, the Greek freak, twenty four six and six and here the two superstars after the game among amount of freighted a moment. Enjoy and notice who's what I work out for a summer just trying to win. Either me scoring points are getting Monte maze. Wide open. Look, the just they're trying to win it just not really matter. Bummy scorn just above being aggressive and don't shy away from anything. Obviously. You know, I'm pissed. We now. We've best they not gonna go go. Give me we got. We not go go there. And even the, you know, the celebrates on the, the come out in hilas in the mouth been became fold. You know, we're gonna come back to Milwaukee being pissed like you cannot full. You gotta go out there and give everything you got if you lose we lose. Okay, cool. But we not going forward as a team. And that's what we do. So Toronto can close out these finals tomorrow night at home. Stephen A is quite proving. He's the best player in the world right now. No, he's proven these the best player in the series. He's proven. He's a superstar, but that, you know him performing against them a walk. He does it mean to me that he's better than Kevin Durant. That's just that's just how I feel about it. Of course, no doubt has been sensational. But let's also look at the Milwaukee Bucks and wonder what the hell has happened to them. They were number one enough, that's in defensive efficiency this season. They've been a shell of themselves when it comes to the last three games of this series ever since Nick nurse has made the transition of putting Kawhi Leonard on the Greek freak, Janas center, Tacoma bowl, and then topping off by suffocating the lane and basically turning him into pretty much a perimeter player for the most part of lessons. Mugged in the paint. The reality is, it's completely stymied. Milwaukee's off. And it's compromised them. Defensively. Janas gets into the lane, often the nineties getting Foued. He's missing. Some of these free throws. He's not converting in the lane the way he's accustomed to doing. So he's also your primary playmaker. Even though he's a good player. Makings not a great one yet. And so you look at it from that perspective guys that were getting open shots during the regular season. Merritt Titian brook, Lopez, and you'll sober and all of these guys. That's not happening right now. You're getting the Toronto Raptors to get out on the wing and contesting shots. And as a result, what we're learning is there are really no playmakers. Malcolm brogden could create shot Bledsoe. Can't hit a perimeter shot when it counts. Other guys can't hit contested shots for the most part, and Janda's can't get them free shots because even though the attention he still attracts. It's a little bit different now because co why is able to neutralize him on his dribble penetration. And as a result, he can't get into the teeth of defenses the way he was. Doing all regular season law. And because of that it's really really compromised them and it's made them. Second guess themselves. It's made them a bit tight and tentative ofensive offense. And as a result, you can see their frustrations on the defensive side of the ball because they look a little different, and I think that's what's happened. Look at your eyelids. You can see this man is not getting enough sleep. That's why you're missing the big story here. Stephen a Smith standing on these customs lines getting in and out of the absolute center. Senator day, you're absolutely right. Are not getting enough sleep. That's right. Confess who are not thinking straight on this issue. Let me explain this real easy. Here's the big picture co why Leonard is proving right now that the rankings of the constellation of stars in the basketball universe is rearranging. Why one LeBron to LeBron James is big. He put down the Bataan because he didn't make the postseason who wanted to pick it up. Now I always contended when Kawai was last healthy he was the second best player in the world. In fact, because his offense had risen to almost K D levels, but as defense was better than everyone in the world. And he was up twenty three points on the Hampton five squad. Right. That couldn't be beaten the seventy three win team. They added the rent who stormed through everyone. And like it's wasn't the rockets last year is two years ago when no one could touch the warriors they couldn't with them, right? Except the Spurs were up twenty three at the half and then got hurt and then they got swept Kawai why. Leonard at that moment. I thought that's second best player in the world till the Bronx, he's gonna pass LeBron one day because by the way, katie's over thirty who is twenty-seven Kawais in his prime and this year, he got healthy. And he had a near MVP sees not quite, and then the playoffs started, and look where they were when K D went down a more efficiently field goal percentage, three point percentage, Hawaii, Leonard ofensive rating, very similar K D with a slight edge in offensive rating, but capable is the superior defensive player. And you have to consider the context it, which these two guys accumulated those numbers, K D is left alone. One guy on Katy, which is a joke because K D could score on two guys. But one guy 'cause you can't leave Steph curry or Klay Thompson, as opposed to Kawai the entire defense is focused on Kawai and K D everyone always playing best in the playoffs. No. In fact, he was playing second best to Hawaii. Now, what's happened since then K D got hurt hasn't played choir? Also got hurt not like. K D. I don't think it's an achilles. And I still think that's what Katie is suffering with some kind of the Killy something no foot Kawais clearly hurt. You can watch the way he moves and he's matched up on the Greek freak, I thought Jaanus was about approve. He's the best player in the world if the size mismatch against Kawai, but no. It's quite giving it to them. It's Jaanus not quite in his prime yet against Kawai in his full glory. Right now in his prime not just physically but even the mental game who why was never a great passer, right? He was last night, even his hooking up. His teammates is changing. He's not just like a two guard is going to score the ball. He's actually creating quality shots for teammates. Stephen doing it all hurt. Have you seen the defensive numbers choir on Janas Janas per one hundred possessions is half as affected when is on them? Then when the second best defender on Janas is on in the NBA who's Blake Griffin. He's. Twice the -ffective is the number two guy. Nothing average not in the league. Then the number two guy, the -fensive fence on your honest, he now has a three games to two advantage on, on a superior team. Just won a road game giving you what was it? Thirty six nine nine seven and two steals. Kawhi Leonard is proving right now. James harden, you want it? No, you don't want it freak you want, it may not be ready who wants LeBron's, not there to show that it's him. K D was he was after it? But actually was low or now, Katy can't play why Leonard is proving right now are right. Enough's enough. Yes, I'm sleepy. Yes, I'm tired, all of that is true, but I'm still awake enough to recall that just forty eight hours ago. You were saying the best player in the world conversation was being decided in this series between Hawaii and the Greek freak. Now, you don't even have the Greek freak in the top to just forty eight hours later. That's number one. Number two, your big about bringing up years past like when we talk about Golden State. You talk about four years ago or whatever. Well, guess what? Three years ago. Kawara Atlanta was defensive player of the year. It was twenty sixteen. The Spurs was sixty seven and fifteen they will forty and one at home and who did he lose to in the playoffs? K D. Number three. When we sit there and we look at Kawhi Leonard, and what he brings to the table. Nobody's taking away the greatness that we see from him. He's absolutely phenomenal. I'm not just that's not a debate. I'm I'm simply pointing out the fact that this series against this mocking books team doesn't indicate to me that that's proved he's the best player in the world. Players go up against go and say, I'm saying if this was if we were having this discussion and he was doing these kind of things against the Golden State Warriors in the NBA finals or something like that. I would I would consider it more of a plausible argument as much as I respect the Milwaukee Bucks. I'm telling you, you could see not just their limitations. But the fact that there are due to a been here before they are due to have not, and Zoe gets tight. They got tight that it's true and Janas did work creating. Hi, good quality shots for his teammates, and beating them after losing game one in Milwaukee. Right. Like Janas, it's not the Jaanus is that series isn't over Yana still has time to prove that he's better than Kawhi. Let's see him do it. But right now it is cool. Why Leonard the idea that, that the Benza guys time was well there two more games so you made. So in other words, I'm just saying two days ago you were saying this is going to turn the best player in the world now you're saying he's not, but two games from now. He you could change your mind again. I don't understand. What's so hard about this these playoffs? This is the crucible like Steven A if to dudes fight, if there's a big box that you're a big fight fan. If there's a big fight. Yes, you're determining the thinking. No, no, no, no stop right there there. I've seen you match calling boxing matches where a guy just got clipped, but he was clearly the inferior fighter, for example, Hearns when he got knocked out by ran bought me. Are you going to sit there and tell me that Iran? Barkley was a bit of boxing and hurts. Hell no. But hers got knocked out by guy lipped now. He was the finals MVP because of the defense, he played on LeBron. He just dismantle the Sixers. He's doing it right now to the bucks when you're style beats everyone who are the best. You will. We've got me because here's the deal. I was sleepy until he's spewed that nonsensical drivel that he just did your water haffey. Thank you, max. You digit job. Say better than a couple of better than a couple of tea baby weight down there. Let's go in on party people. Molly care hair, listening to the first take podcast. If you don't know your numbers, you don't know your business. They have one system for counting another for sales, another for inventory, and so on. And it's a big inefficient mess taking too much time, and too many resources and that hurts the bottom line. Introducing net suite by oracle the business management software that handles every aspect of your business and easy to use cloud platform, giving you the visibility and control you need to grow with the nets. 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It's the dust bunnies, only natural predator on the long dust on his run along. Sports on right now in the Bill Kareem with you, while the raptors and bucks are slugging it out in the Eastern Conference finals. You got the Golden State Warriors, just sitting and chilling rest and recovery is a priority right now for a team. That's missing a couple of key pieces. Kevin Durant, and boogie cousins probably won't be ready for the start of the finals. But that's not exactly breaking news for the warriors. Nothing new to me. We've known all along. How he responds. And so. There's never heard there's never been a point during this process where we've been able to say he's going to play on such and such date, and still so just keep going people before Marcus, I good. He went through the whole practice and. His he doesn't have any more pain, strengthen his quad is good. Now it's about conditioning hitting shots up playing five on five basketball. An expectation that'd be available. Up in there. As for the rest of the team curse says the war is will practice today and tomorrow. He says their focus will be unveiled Gabe until they find out who they're playing. Let's get you back. Okay. These unlikely to play at the start of the NBA finals when they begin next Thursday in either Toronto or Milwaukee, but Dredd has a big summer ahead of him as maybe I guess, between he and co why the number one prize, and the free agent market are manned, Jalen rose sitting here at the table. Thanks for having me that national start with you, though. Katie's priority. In the short term here, should it be playing in the NBA finals or should it be free agency. Of course, it should be free agency, and I know what this sounds like. And I know a lot of players even be like, no, no. It's the finals, and this, and that because competitive athletes can be rational at times in order to be great athletes. You know, it's the reason reason their salary caps, by the way in sports is because owners can get rationally competitive and cost themselves money. This is a competitive world, the world of sports entertainment, but that's also what it is. It's also entertainment the competition. The point of it is to be entertaining. The point of finding out about the winner and the loser is to make money. To make a business by entertaining, the masses. Right. And so, really when you think about what the finals are, it's a TV show. I mean, the NBA is largely, it's alive show. You can go be part of the studio audience if you pay. But for most people, it's a TV show like millions of people versus the thousands in the arena. It's a TV show and the finals are just a bigger TV show for which you get paid less a TV show. His already stored in multiple times. So you mean to tell me that someone in their right mind would risk up to two hundred million dollars to be on a TV show for which he gets paid less than the normal show is odd. And he's also done that show in the past. I mean, I know I'm reducing it to maybe a more absurd conclusion than is realistic or practical. But really, that's what it is. When I talk guys to athletes, and Jalen sure you have your own thoughts on this. What kind of career percentage in terms of your earnings would you have given up if they'd never wanted title? For example, for championship. I usually hear about five percent which to really that's all it's, it's a lot. It's a lot when you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. I think Katie would be nuts to jeopardize his health of his future. If not the situation, I'm not gonna lie. There are sometimes I've wondered whether or not you ever even play ball in the park, whether you've done anything Ledley, competitively. See, I don't understand that kind of thing that is the most asinine thing I've ever heard in my life. I barely understand and comprehend your rationale. I understand anybody who would disagree with my overall point because to me, it would be about the finals rather than free agency. But how you came to that conclusion is just something again. I'm waking up. I just don't even have the time to get into it. Here's what I'm going to say to you. Kevin durant. It doesn't matter. What happens to Kevin Durant? If you told you told twenty nine teams in the NBA. Or at least twenty eight Kevin Durant is not available for the entire twenty nineteen twenty twenty season. They would still give him the match. You went on max will on this show, just days ago, acknowledging that, so if we knowledge that, and we'll Kate if I recall correctly, you are part of that as well. K D is going to get whatever he's going to get no matter what I don't give a damn if he's injured. It can't play or if he recovers in time. It doesn't matter. So what it comes down to is this, what are you play for, because guess what I often use this analogy? Jalen, I got direct deposit for a reason, you know, one of the biggest reasons I have direct deposit because I don't think about the money once I know is there. And I know it's coming. I'm good. It's everything else that I'm doing what I do for. And I believe that athletes are that way. Sure, when you get to them. Negotiating table, and you're gonna go she hitting a contract. Absolutely. You're going to position yourself to get as much as you possibly can the best deal imaginable. But once the ink is put down on paint, watch what you sign on the dotted line. Now, your competitive juices, flowing and your about earning invalidating what you could track truly bog in four. And I think that's what pre premium all star, superstar athletes are made of. Good. So let's calculate the injury. It's a calf muscle is not attendant is not a ligament, is something that's definitely going to. He'll usually in time enough for him to participate in the NBA finals if he's able to go max that should be the goal and I'm gonna give you different reasons why if he does not play he now here's the chatter that has had him on Instagram the last couple of weeks. Remember when Katie was healthy, and he was averaging thirty five and people like Steven and myself or coming on television saying he's the best player in the world. He's the guy, we will build around then all of a sudden he got injured. And once he got injured, people started to say are Golden State words better offensively without Katie. Can they win? It wasn't Jalen on. Correct added do that. Absolutely not. And people start asking those questions. And you know what? He heard him. And he heard him so much. He got out his Twitter fingers. He got on g he started replying to people. And therefore, he has to come back during the finals max because this is his chance to win three straight finals MVP's because if he blows up in that series he can still do it, and he can't afford for the team to win it all without him because it clearly wouldn't bother him the chatter that's going around for player that we all four seat is going to leave what we consider the best dynasty going in the league and yet, we anticipate, he's going to leave because he's not necessarily satisfied, even though they won championships there, can we just let's just take a quick breather because Matt, somehow you have managed to offend not just everybody at this table of which I will include myself, but I would imagine everybody watching you and everybody going on the money. Max not you. You've reduced this competitive environment into mash, you reduced it into a TV show. And you did it as here into some darkness that we can't see man. This is why they play in Steven A. And now general point out, it won't cost. K D A dine, not why they play. They play for the money. They're not just playing in the park for nothing. They're playing for hundreds of millions of dollars and it's naive to think that that's just play for the love of the game. Not that they don't love the game. Not that they're not competitive, but the money, that's professional profession. Look, I'll agree with Stephen about the money. I think you win that point Stephen because I do agree with that, when you think about it. K D is worth so much more than the max contract that people would pay for him to sit down for a year because if you if you pro rate the money he's just getting paid instead of forty million a year, sixty million year. Whatever and anyone would do that. Because his, his salary's kept artificially low, even with a max deal. So I agree with that. Ultimately, it's not really about the money. Let's say it's about in this case. Let's say it's just about the competition. Is it more important for, for K D to chase a third ring here and a third finals MVP which people like me will discount sorry? You've never double covered a trapdoor anything like that. 'cause you can't leave Steph or Klay, what he did in the finals LeBron every finals is better than K. Dixie has to do so much more k D's. It's not that he's not incredible. He is. But he's incredible. And not cover the way other guys, are like Hawaii is in this usually LeBron is usually now think about this for a second. He skips this, or he has some catastrophic injury if that Jalen, I don't believe it's just a calf strain if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But it looked like something else to me. Okay. If it's a catastrophic injury that affects the rest of his career, chasing, one last final is that is good, even competitively for him as making sure he's okay. And then playing the rest of his had a question for you. Stephen when it first happened called it, the weakest movie ever seen from a superstar you. Just said, if he wins the championship, and he's healthy. You're still going to discount it. He does not help that narrative by not playing at all, but he does if he can still be K D in the future winning a championship with another team. No, it doesn't work like that. Because now with the Golden State Warriors, we're trying to debate a lot of people are not me by saying is, they're better off is their office better without him are the ghost warriors champions without him. If they go to the finals a he does not play and they win the championship. Oh man. It just it becomes an avalanche. Matt. They've done it before the whole criticism was. They won a championship before he ever got there. So what's the difference really? But if, if Katie has a catastrophic injury because it really is maybe achilles related or not, or cousin to it or in some other weightless. Listen, if he's okay, then play, of course, but if there's a danger that he could have a catastrophic injury and that could affect the next. Several years of his career, which is the end of his prime probably over thirty years old, and he can never really prove what he could have done off the Golden State Warriors, that's worse for k D's get back in here. When you are an elite player, particularly when you're associated with championships. This is what you play for. It's not to discount that the money does that the money matters, it's to say that it doesn't matter once, you know, it's coming, we've talked about how K D has accumulated the next says Jalen of over three hundred million dollars in his career. We talk about the shoe deals. We talk about as play conscience. We've also acknowledged that even if he had to sit out the entire season, somebody would pay him do max dollars because he's that great and having him on your squad to the future, because a stab foundation upon which you can build. So when you arrive Kate, those things, you take it out of the equation, you'll minute from everything, now, it comes down to what are you made of? And I'm telling you right now, when you are a champion, and you been in that position, that's all of a sudden, that's what it's about when you know that other stuff you can count on, if you Katie. And you're good enough. Good enough healthwise to play. You're not going to sit up there and go man shoot. I could reenter myself. I can't play in the finals. New hair is good enough. Stephen yourself course if he's good enough to play. He should play. That's not the argument also. You act like he's a walk on the court hopping on one leg was saying them, and I got to be a part of this Chapman before. But you guys know that's what we expect of our athletes. And that's what Leonard is doing. And that's what we used to be compared to. So max, if the raptors make it to the finals, and you see co why not healthy but still performing, but yet KB is nursing his injury when he could possibly play because he prepared for free agency. That also is going to factor into the dynamics or something plays really depends on the nature of the injury. There was a lot of cynicism about Kawais injury. And everyone thought he was just forcing himself out of San Antonio. But consider that, that injury was legitimate. And that he didn't think he was being diagnosed properly, and that the rest of his career was very important for him. And the nature of this injury. He's now suffered he feels is not as catastrophic potentially going forward. Whereas katie's injury. I'm basing this guy's on katie's reaction when he first heard himself on a non contact play everyone in the world who watches sports goes, that's an achilles. Now we're being. Old. It's not. Okay. I don't believe it. Look like don't put court, I don't believe what if you recall max to bring up the point and Jalen, your remember this co-, why did not come back. He only played nine games, but it San Antonio's birth. There was a as meeting with Tony Parker and others. Confronted him. Wondering what was going on the one time where there was consideration of him coming back was when they went into the playoffs why? Because what had his competitive juices flowing is that even though I'm not one hundred percent. I mean damn these are the playoffs it matters. We're not talking about K D in a regular season. So regular season game while some first round game talking about the NBA finals a championship for line twenty three points up on the Golden State Warriors, and he was not from here. Here. I'm talking about last que but the point is we can see points. Kawais grew. And I thought he was the second best player in the world. And they had a huge lead on the unbeatable, Kevin Durant warriors in that first season when they were at their Beth, and he couldn't play anymore. That was it. I'm not saying if it's just a cast rain and they feel comfortable he's gonna play I'm saying, I don't believe he clearly cares about the narrative, and if the Golden State Warriors win the championship, and he does not play is going to be worse. But everybody's I if they lose and Jalen, you brought that up several times if the warriors win the championship without K, d do you think that will push him out of Golden State? I think he's leaving regardless and the thing about it. He thought going to the wars and having championship glory was going to bring happiness. And this is something that athletes, and people continue to learn as you start to get older. Your accomplishments, shouldn't equal, your happiness, and even though that happened he still was grumpy him and Kyrie Irving with. Two of the most unhappy people in the entire league this year. We're already speculating that are best player playing on the best team is automatically gonna leave. He's not come out. One time and said I love it here. I love playing with these guys. I wanna be a part of this. So that's what I am -ticipant will Jalen. Do you know what I think you've missed here, not to dispute anything that you're saying because I'm not something you didn't add you talk about the warriors, and if they win without K D that's not a narrative, you know, whether or not, you know what narrative he really, really doesn't want. If the finals are going on and katie's not playing and then people start questioning whether or not he's even rooting for the warriors. That's a great point ones. Brought that up you're going to have people that's question. It ain't going to be me. It ain't going to be g you Jalen is probably not going to be max. What I'm telling you. We all know there are people that are going to say, does he want the warriors, you know, I think Peyton was free line that second Super Bowl, Stephen. We don't have to speculate because with Seth curry came out and said that the warriors were tougher the guard without K D, there was a poll on Instagram, the ask did you agree? Yes or no? Katie got into the comments and say hell Naw, so he's deadly paying attention to all of these narratives, so on this debate right here should Katie prioritize free agency or the finals. I like to do a little by little Chari agents in Jamie, this, and their argument max, they sacrifice. No money. He sacrifices no money. It's bad for his legacy says Jalen, if he sits out and Stephen says he is a competitor and competitors. Play on your side of the ledger. Max for why should prioritize free agency? You have. If it impacts his health long-term, right? It actually it's his legacy. It's Jalen point. I think he's jeopardizing his legacy more by jeopardizing his future health. Hey, it's Dan Patrick here to tell you about the Dan Patrick school. The sportscasting of teamed up with full sail university to create a sports casting bachelor's degree you work both on and behind the cameras. And you build skills for the future of sports so you can connect with audiences no matter where they are or how they're tuning in. Learn more about full sail universities. Dan, Patrick school to sportscasting by going to full sail dot EDU slash Dan. Patrick school. As if things couldn't get worse for the rockets after another series loss to the warriors, tensions, reportedly boiled over in the locker room after they were eliminated according to the athletic James harden. Chris Paul had multiple tints moments with one another throughout game six that led to a war of words in the locker room. It's noted the argument Senator around ball distribution in Houston style of play. Let's go to Steven Steven. I understand you have some information on that. And I'm gonna ask you this question is well, how then do the rockets fix their problems three things I want to say, number one, considering the first two segments of this show with the drivel that was coming out of max Kellerman mouth. I want America to know I love this man because he knows how exhausted and tired, I am, and he did it on purpose to wake me up. So I think my brother max Kellerman, good looking out, bro. Good looking up, number two in all seriousness yesterday. Before I did the six o'clock support center, the story had come out in the guys about what had happened with C P three and James harden in the aftermath of game six I had several players. Get me on a conference call who remain nameless to emphatically denied that there was any truth to that whatsoever. They acknowledged that there was some friction between CPI three and James harden, as it was with CPI three and others on the court during game six, but they said, that's always seeping threes, a pit bull. He gets after it, and gets after people that he doesn't feel are doing the things that they're supposed to do, but there was absolutely, positively no carryover into the locker room, no situation where ultimately guys had to end up going their separate ways because it was so heated people were devastated that they lost. But it was that simple. There was no truth to any friction. That was carried over into the locker room. Now the answer your question will about what you. The rockets do from here. I think they should replace Mike, then tone. And I don't say it like Mike. Dantonio deserves to be fired. I don't say it like Mike dantonio can't coach what I'm saying is might dantonio Myers, mation max is a coach that you bring that you bring in to create excitement, reinvigorate or invigorate an offense when you regular season games, and maybe a couple around in the postseason. But when you are talking about championship competing for championship. I don't believe that my dad Tony is that guy. I think that Mike Tony the system that he employs it usually puts an insurmountable amount of weight or tremendous level of weight on the shoulders of one individual. And you ride that in rod, it into the ground to the point that has the. Postseason wayne's. And you're preparing for best of seven series, somehow, some way, that individual is not going to have what it takes to propel you over an elite team. So I think that might then Tony is a damn good coach. I think that he belongs being a coach in the NBA. But if I'm Tillman for Tita owner for the Houston Rockets, who I've had the pleasure of getting to know an speak spoken to on several occasions. And this man does not play. He's the real deal. He's reminded me of how he came from nothing and how he started with one restaurant and look at what the hell he's done. He's worth over five billion dollars right now. This man is about winning. He believes in himself, and I don't believe there might then Tony as demand that's going to get it done for, I don't. Okay. I to your Mike dantonio point, I couldn't disagree more in this case. And once I thought, as you do about Tony. I thought he's a guy you brought in to inflate assets to are they wrote about this moneyball, Michael Lewis did about Billy bean? He would take a good hard door who could throw strikes make them closer rack up a bunch of saves and then trade him for someone who is actually really good. Because people were hammered with the save stat that happens with dantonio, you can bring them in. There's a faster pace more points or scored and all the players stats look make them look better than they really are. And I would think if I'm a GM I'd use dantonio inflate the assets, and then trade them for players who actually thought were really good. So I thought that way about dantonio and maybe it's still true to an extent, but I disagree. When it comes to the rockets, Stephen, the reason the rockets are able to compete the way they are with the warriors this year notwithstanding. Although they took them six games that didn't happen like with Portland. For example, the. Reason they're able to do that is precisely because of Mike Dan, Tony system because they had Thomas, the hall of Famer laments and yells at me about if you score from all five areas, not just three points, the paint and the free throw line, but also mid range and down on the block. It's harder to defend you, but you have to be so judicious in terms of how often you go to the block in the mid range, because the, the returns aren't good on those kinds of investments. So because Mike dantonio invest, so heavily heavily Freudian slip on the most important areas of the court, the most efficient areas. The rockets actually play over their heads, and then have people like Stephen Smith here on I take saying well in order to get over the top. They are over the top. The reason they get this far is because of Dan Tony system. Now, how do they get over the hump and actually win a championship? Stephen James harden, can't be looking for calls on threes to tie the game on the road in game one and looking for the rest of Bela. James harden, campy dribbling, the ball out of bounds and not hitting bigshots. Let me say this about you your, your point about inflating the assets is an incredibly stupid point. And I'll give you a lot of credit for that because I do understand what you're saying that 'cause dantonio in this system, and what he's able to do for players, Daryl Morey is exactly the kind of GM skillful enough to take those plated. It assets and making into something you're absolutely right about that. But I would say the you this. And by the way, I don't hold anything against dantonio losing in the second round, I believe if it were not the warriors, the Houston Rockets would have been to the conference finals against Dan, Tony in these playoffs. So it's just that you ran into Hugh golden blades around before. But I'm just saying to you. When I look at superior teams in the NBA, if you are a team, you're going to be the Mike, Dan, Tony team in the postseason. Hold on. I just going to do it. I had to follow up with both of you, then who is the inflated? Set on the rockets, then it's actually harden because harden, it's not that he's not capable of doing great things even without Dan. Tony. But the kind of numbers that put him in the category of Michael Jordan, and Kobe Bryant, and like the greatest two guards ever. He's not as good as those guys even off. That's the Dan, by the way. Steve Nash won back to back MVP's, and I match Steve Nash, he was not as good as the historical players who went back to back MVP. But I'll tell you. But I'll tell you what her argument Clint cappella got a five year, ninety million dollar contract primarily because of what he was able to do in my Tony system. Right. But when he went up against Golden State for the first few games, he was somewhat limited and exposed why. Because we, you're prepare for a best of seven, that's an asset that you were able to neutralize. So what I'm saying to you, as you look at James harden, that wasn't a system issue per se with James harden, based on what you're talking about that was James harden. Whereas in the case of Clint cappella, he was either his, he was either bloated and inflate it all. He was compromised by the system when it really counted, pick your poison then laying that I will come up with this Clint cappella. Well, I, I understand what you mean about harden harden is a great offensive player, even without dantonio Antoni bets out, this even when then Tony showed up and they were already going to harden a lot. Right. But he averaged thirty six points a game this year. If no Ryan Tony no thirty six points a game. Okay, hard. That's fair. That's fair. But accurate taught by saying this dantonio had Steve Nash. She's had a Mari by job Shawn Marion he's had Joe Johnson. He had Kobe Bryant and the White House. He had I mean he's in New York. Well Carmella was gone about McGovern Mela basically pushed him out because he didn't want Carmelo. They wanted to Nilo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler and those boys. But then he goes from New York, I'm sorry year. Phoenix in New York. You're in LA now, you're in Houston, how many times are we going to make explanations for a man? That hasn't gotten to my door all his brilliance. He has never coached in an NBA funds right now. He's all he wants a three year extension the suspensions against the Spurs kept him out of the finals, and they probably would have won the championship. But you're right. I've been plenty critical of Dan, Tony. And the fact that they got his Delic is key without a defensive coordinator. He can't do it but Steven mentioned the guys who just mentioned the teams who just mentioned when Dan, Tony has a willing news. A Steve Nash James harden. It works when he doesn't Akobe Bryant. Carmelo doesn't buy it. It's not gonna work rhetorical question. Because we gotta go, but the definition of work is different than mine. I'm saying to you Mike dantonio deserves to be a coach in the NBA. But when you are trying to win a championship he has evidence that can do that. I'll say one statement, real quick will and then I'll give it up. I'm saying this, if you get off of Dan, Tony, the rockets will get worse. Maxing out what they can do. Right. And the question remains, how would you fix the rocket? Stephen, as answer is changed coach your answer. So far is simply James harden, has to play better my author pressure. Let me let me offer at least one thought experiment. It's interesting that you bring up Clint Capella is inflated asset. Stephen a what about a name like Kevin love. What about something on the trade market five in love would fit really nicely in baby? I like Clint cappella be enough to bring back Kevin. I think trade clinic appello, but. Let's see. Well, I don't I don't I don't I don't disagree with that will. But what I'm saying is in a best of seven series. You gotta play on both ends of the floor and you can't be predictable. You can't say this is what we got figure out a way to beat us. My dad Tony is pretty predictable. It's successful but up to a point anywhere he could coach most places in the NBA. If you're trying to win a title there is no evidence he's your guy data's what for Tita is thinking about as he sits back and contemplates should I give this man at three year extension that even and then he's not. You're not just pulling that out of thin air. I understand that. Stephen, I'll say this to when they signed CPA three, the question was could those to coexist in the back court and the answer was yes, it worked, like when, when the Knicks got Earl the Pearl with CLYDE Frazier. There's only one basketball, but it worked they wanna championship, and it looked like these two maybe could do it the way they were working together. And then C P three. Started declining. We can see clearly. This is not C P three in his prime anymore. And so James harden, either needs a better crime partner at this point, and C P threes, career or to Will's point, they need to bring in a third guy who can maybe become the second guy to, to right away that inflated asset. You suggest to get that you may have to. I just don't know if that's Kevin love. Okay.

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Hour 1 - Dan Dakich (06-21-19)

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Hour 1 - Dan Dakich (06-21-19)

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Email address, DP, Dan, Patrick dot com Twitter handle at DP show. These sports world can be a pretty cynical place. Just go on Twitter anytime day or night, but last night's NBA draft did have some moments where they're a pretty good antidote to all the Neg negatively there, there were some really int- interesting emotional moments last night, Zion, Gabi tear-filled tribute to his mom, and it felt like everybody was, it was okay for everybody to cry after that players were crying. Parents crying, maybe you were crying as you were watching, we read mock draft. Sometimes we think of these players. Pieces on a chalkboard. But it's a disservice to them with all the hard work that they did and mom and dad did as well. And now they've got lucrative careers potentially ahead of them. And maybe someday, we'll look back and maybe they will as well and say. Why were you crying or I can't believe I was crying? There's no shame in crying. There is crying in basketball, at least the basketball draft in wins. I did it. And those were big crocodile tears that he had last night. But you never know he knew he was going number one. And you get up there with the lights on you. Everybody watching you and I think it starts to sink in. I don't know if you allow it to sink in, it's not the same until it's in the moment, and he started to think here, I am nineteen years of age, on the number one pick in the draft, and who would have thought this a couple years ago even last year before the season started. But hopefully these players will hold onto that passion that they showed last night and entertain us for years to come and you watch in you, you read social media, and look, we're pretty cynical group here, we always talk about what somebody's wearing like bowl bowl last night. He looked like a villain with his spiderweb Al. Fit any had to wait. I mean he he punished us with the outfit and then he got punished by staying in the green room for a long, long time. But when you look the other problem was, hey, here's a hat of team. You're never gonna play for, but put it on because this is called product placement. Hey, we're greedy here. We want to make sure everybody knows we got new hats out. How about a novel approach of we can show the hats all you want. Just don't make the kids put it on their heads. That's all not a big deal and most of them have hair that they don't wanna hat on their head. Just. Okay. We know that somebody is he the Lakers have this pick. No. They don't New Orleans says that pick. No, they don't Atlanta has that pick. But why don't we just give him a couple of hats there? I I didn't like it. I know it's a small thing. Another thing I was, when I'm watching last night, I'm wondering football, does free agency, and then they do their draft what isn't the NBA do that one if they do free agency, and then they do the draft because everything last night, it felt like was about free agency clearing cap. Space trading players getting out of the first round. And if I'm a fan you just wanna make sure your team has a game plan and I watched New Orleans with David Griffin did. He's got a game plan. If he hits on fifty percent of these picks, it will be an unbelievable hall in a steel for New Orleans with the Anthony Davis deal for a guy who had no leverage in trading. Anthony Davis to get that from the Lakers. And with the hawks couple of teams that they made trades with I thought, David Griffin, did a wonderful job. He at least has a plant the hawks have a plan. The wizards have no plan. I don't know what Phoenix's planet like there's certain teams were going on what you're thinking. You know, the Celtics still don't have a point guard and weren't they the future basketball. Analogies like there, the past basketball like what happened where it looked other stood up, man. They got draft picks. Got a great coach got a great GM can get Anthony Davis. And then all of a sudden wait. What happened L horford's out? Rozier, once out you miss out on Anthony Davis and now you're making cap space here. Okay. I guess you have a plan because, you know, Danny ages lost out on quite a few players, here, lost out on Koa lost out on Paul. George kyri is going to be leaving Horford is going to be leaving. And now all of a sudden you look around, and you go many this isn't the franchise model franchise of how to do things. Yes, unfortunately, for the Celtics, they had a bunch of bench players make a solid run in the postseason who now all believe that their starters. And now that the starters, you know this year, the starters came back and kick, those due to the curb, and they're not happy about it. They were a better team with that group than they were this group this past season. With kyri Gordon Hayward coming back now you got to like the Celtics in a rebuild mode. They went from being the favorites to go to the title game to noun of rebuild mode. Is that possible? And you still got Gordon Hayward contract. Kyri looks like he's gone and Al Horford it's gone. You still have Brown and Tatum. But you know what do you really have here as you move forward? Yes, mclovin, they as a Sixers fan. They still make me nervous. Like there was they Romeo Langford from Indiana is hand was hurt last year. So report presented they traded Carson Edwards. They're going to get sick. Yoke, Carson Edwards. He might end up starting for this team by the end of the year. I mean who knows he's, he's a guy who came on during the NCAA tournament certainly can score. But I don't know what Boston if Boston has a game. They gotta get a point guard here that was hell. Is it fair to blame kyri or not blame Kyrie, but the risk on Kyrie kind of 'cause all this is that fair to say or who who's boy, do you pointing fingers home? All I they should have gotten. I would've traded kyri last year. I I'm not a big kyri fan wonderful talent maybe the best handle in the game. But I you know that's not who I want is my lead guy, I don't. And if you could've traded him because the timing of it, you couldn't have kyron Anthony Davis because of their contracts. You couldn't have those contracts at the same time, so they had to wait in, if Kyrie wasn't going to be your guy, or you got that feeling then maybe you could've traded him, you know before the trading deadline and then you could have gotten Anthony Davis. Yes, you know, I thought that was the most shocking thing after Romeo Langford from Indiana was draft about the Celtics. In his post draft interview, he said he didn't watch a lot of NBA last year because he didn't have cable where he lived in college. All right. That that's nineteen eighty two college kids have cable the dorm. Well, you lived in athletic dorm to. Yeah. You would think you could go down. They have a lobby where you could probably go while streaming and ipad. I'm thinking, yeah. Or maybe he said, you know what can have you ever tried to watch it NBA game? It's board. I did watch eyelids. I didn't watch any games. Dan Patrick show. Brought to you by brought to you by truecar in sports a trade can make or break your team. And it's no different when it comes to selling trading in your car, you need to make a good choice with truecar get a star on your roster. When you're ready to sell or trade in your car. Check out truecar cash offer not available in all areas. All right, mclovin, what kind of question do you have on this trigger meet Friday? Okay. What's your big takeaway from last night? Strath was it all the guys were crying was the guys wearing the wrong hat, which a lot of people calling for some sort of structural fix all the trades. Or is it just the fact that Diane win last night? You think when, when it's all well, we look back at this draft and say three months, it'll be on. I mean it's. I agree with Jay Bilas. It wasn't a top heavy draft. But I think if you watch a lot of college basketball than you know, that there's some talent here. I just don't know if you're getting guys, they're going to start right away. And you know that's different than a year ago, but it's going to be about. You know, we're gonna look back on, Zion Williamson, I don't think it's going to be about the hats or these kids crying. It might be about teams clearing salaries space and also, you know teams that may not have any idea what they're doing. And there's a few of 'em that fall in line with that. And, and there's some fun players in here. But, you know, the amazing part is you're looking at eighteen and nineteen year old kids that, that's where we're starting here with the NBA, and they're going in by the time they get done with their rookie deal. You're twenty two twenty three and then all of a sudden things explode are you staying are you going sign and trait, by the way, sign and trade? Brian wind horse to the mothership said, maybe Golden State does a sign and trade with Kevin Durant to try to keep him there and you sign him. And then you can't. Trait an injured player kenu. Well, that's a good point. Well, I think we know were said they keep him next year rehab him them trade him after the season does he want the same doctors rehabbing him who sent him into battle. And if I'm let's say, you're the Knicks or your Brooklyn. I, I don't want to do, I don't want to decimate my roster to get a then or soon to be thirty two year old Kevin Durant coming off achilles surgery. Not at all. If you really wanna go then go because you're going to go and hurt your team, because it's going to be a sign and trade. And if it's the Knicks, what are you giving up to get Kevin Durant? And is he worth that a max deal? You gave up players and he's coming off the Killy surgery and he'll be thirty two at the time. No, thank you. No. Thank you. Yeah. Mclovin. How important is that extra forty million dollars to somebody like Kevin Durant, who's already like two hundred eighteen million on his career? Well, but it's easy for us to say that it's. His money, right? But at what point is forty if you have two hundred million Koreans that's only like five percent or something like is it different that is there a certain point where that forty million means less than I've never met somebody who had a lot of money. Who says man, I'm full, I don't want, like Bill Gates. He may be giving away money. He's still making money, but, I mean Warren Buffett still goes to work every single day. And, you know, so I can't say to Kevin Durant. Come on. That's enough, isn't it? I mean, how much do you really need? I just don't want Kevin Durant at that age at that price. And then I have to give up players to get him if you I would even waiver on giving up those players at that price for Kevin Durant, if he was healthy, I would not want to do that deal, but you know what they're the Knicks and chances. Are they could probably do this, also what the what the nets did in? And I know that we look at the nets, and we always looked down upon the nets the way we do the clippers, but there's some smart people in both. Those organizations with what they're doing. And what the nets were doing by getting rid of some of these salaries or saying, we don't want a first round pick their clearing space for two MAC, steals. And those two players are Kevin Durant, and Kyrie Irving that the nets are they're making a bold move here. I don't know if it's a sign and trade. And you have to give up some of your talent some of your assets there, probably so. But the nets are quietly, you know, chugging along here. Now, do I want either one of them with kyri? No do I want Katie at that price at that age coming off surgery. No. But that's what the nets, they're all in to try to acquire both of those guys. Yeah. Mclovin you said something about how is that these workers are in the rookie deal. And then they'll hit free you to five years. So the Lakers really give up that much if they gave up Ingram and ball, who they might not have resigned. Anyway. Either of those guys, these rookies, they rookies, I feel like he could build through free agency. So I. Understand New Orleans got a great deal. But the Lakers, I think it was worth the risk because those assets were never going to pay off the Lakers, what free agents are you going to go to New Orleans none? Yeah. So you had to make a deal to bring in players. Right about from the Lakers standpoint. Did they give too much by giving twenty twenty picks excetera? No, the Lakers did what they needed to do. They have a three year window with LeBron in my opinion. They got a guy who now has put them at the top. If not amongst the teams to win the title and, you know, in LA you don't we're not waiting for rebuilt. They want it now we've had it now we expect it now or stars win championships. You can't go through another season where you just sort of mired in mediocrity here, and they went after Anthony Davis. They got him. They kept coups MMA. And now you gotta fill out that roster. You gotta get a point guard in there. You got to shore up the back court at a little bit of depth and you're going to go into the league is one of the teams to be. Did they give up a lot? Yes. But if I'm New Orleans, I'm going to take that chance that maybe Lonzo ball looks at this and says I'm playing with Zion here. This is fun Ingram. This is fun. We have a chance to be a really good team. I don't know if that keeps you there. Wonderful city, wonderful people, and great basketball town in a football city. But I don't know if that's enough, but I think both teams nor liens keep in mind. They had no leverage. They had no leverage. He he wanted to go to the Lakers. So what, what's my leverage you either trade me now or I'm walking and look at what they got in return? I thought New Orleans today, wonderful job, one of the great holes that we've had at least on paper in modern day NBA history. I thought they did a wonderful job. All right. So what's poll question? We're going to go with mclovin. Okay. Couple other options. Oh, fritzy. Just sent me Mike headlines. Okay. Better draft to watch NBA or NFL inside question, which sport right now has the best offseason, NBA, NFL MLB. And I just want to remind Daimler dropped a distract in the middle of the draft last night. NBA NBA has so much going on than just like you got players, dropping albums, and talk it on Instagram. So I would argue MBA's pretty good. Okay. The opponent I've not seen fritzy's mock headlines. But I'm willing to bet twenty bucks. Okay. Rhymes Zion with cryan? Okay. Hold on. Hold on, if he didn't if that the tougher, I know. There's a vague reference cryan Williamson. Why so upset you're going wait a minute. Wait a minute. Cry on Williamson draft class have emotional night. There you go. That's my. Yeah. Second from the top. Yes, it was. Do you wanna do your mic headlines right now? And just get them. I mean you wanna give them let's just rip the band aid off. Yeah. We'll rip the band aid off with Richie's mock headlines. Here we go. We're gonna start it off with filet of Boll left feeling Manute and red and green room. What, what does that mean? He kinda got filleted got got cook filet of soul. Yeah. We can't lead with bowl bowl lay bolt. No, you gotta leave with Siahaan. I made that second like how let him in doesn't the best ones. Not. Nobody your letter. Sometimes it's tough, I know him not. But he doesn't make the best, one of the best ones like number three. I don't please don't tell me you have a straight to your mug. I do try to put some type of order. Okay. Number two Kelly mentioned cry on Williamson draft class have emotional nights. There's no place like Cleveland garland goes to Cavs. And you figure that one out. Judy Garland ago. Judy garland. Some ninety year old. I'll listen to us who get got a little wizard of Oz. Man, don't tax me on a Friday ton hero to heat Tyler Moore of a psychic though. Hero, heroes and sidekicks hero to heat Tyler more of a sidekick A miss that one, you either a hero. You're a psychic hero sandwich day, Washington. Oh, KiKi Dokie, not bad. Pick by magic Okita Gochi. He's not going with hockey morons. Wizards will really day. Okay. All right. I'm okay with that one. Okay. You know that they didn't even talk to him. They didn't interview him before they drafted him. Yes. See. Can I just start shooting around? Now you wanna go out and go, yeah. Go ahead. I just go to more. Yeah. Is going to go. Start shooting basketball seems has has a real problem with your Marquette. He wants to those band, like the I know I know so Seton just walked out wherefore art, thou. Celtics Boston turns, the hoosiers Romeo K serviceable. Okay, I'm all right with that. And the last one, which we talked about earlier this controversy with how they do things with the drift, hats off to NBA. No silver lining to wearing wrong cap. All right. I mean, the, the bar is so low. Yeah, you're sort of like the wizards. You have no clue what you're doing without. When we get in there, it felt like every draft pick either got an a or a D last night with, you know, who won who lost. I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a C minus you might see my deep loss. Yep. All, you know what I thought was the closest thing to an honest moment. Jay Bilas, who is very you know, always, you know, people say Duke friendly because he's a Dookie he was talking about Cam reddish, and he was struggling to find nice things to say about cameras his freshman year. He said, this guy has got all the NBA tools. This is skills. He was but his freshman year was confusing because there's games where he was a relevant and he was being very honest about him sailing. I don't know what really happened. I can't explain it, but it was the closest thing to real. And I appreciated that because I said it yesterday if you were watching with Jay Bilas and you're having a couple of beers. Anyone on TV what would he really say? And can these analysts really say that? And I thought that that was a moment of clarity where you really. Got an inside look into camera tish as I've said before last year. I, I loved what I saw when I saw him play really well, it's just you can't be that good or supposed to be that good. And I don't know you're on the floor at times. And I know that Zion and RJ Barrett can sort of, you know, block out the sun, but camera tish and I, I've been told he was going to Atlanta that they loved him. And I do think Atlanta has a plan here. I really do. I don't know if it'll work out, but they know they wanted to go after de'andre hunter. And they wanted to go after trae young the previous year they got both of those guys and it feels like they're at least headed in the right direction. They're twenty one after the hour. We'll check in with Dan dockage the mothership did a lot of games for a lot of these draft picks will get his thoughts on the teams that did really well or those players who are in great situations to succeed is twenty one after the hour. Reggie Miller, a little bit later on your phone calls are welcome. I did like this poll. Question, mclovin. If you could only watch one NBA team next season beside your team, which team would it be? And there's pretty good list there. Yeah. I mean, the choices seem pretty pretty clear here. The Lakers warriors pelicans. Any east teams that we have to put on there. I think you gotta put the bucks because of the Greek freak. Yeah. Seventy sixers. I don't know who's going to be there. And then the raptors if Colli leaves or if he stays Celtics got a lot last year. Do they stay in that elite category? No, I don't think so I guess it depends but yeah, I'll put that up right up. All right. We'll take a break here back with Dan dockage right after this, Dan. Patrick show podcast, one presents the gbi podcast with Rick Fox jas hall, and Todd ROY, log to see the world behind the east force you love. And find out what good game really means from the trio, who's taken the business by storm, or if he literally goes, I agree with Rick. And she played. 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So I can't like don't get tripped up and try to be too cute with your mom headlines. Yes polling, sometimes, obscurity is tough with a one liner. If the references obscure, you people at the pause to get it. Yeah. You, you don't want them going on. And what you're talking about there, but it could be the first one on the receiving end. That's not getting it's not always the one that lay Abol fillet on every menu. Every diner every restaurant's going to a ball somewhere play of so, Dan, dockage ESPN college basketball analyst, also radio host for ten seventy the fan and kind enough to join us. How are you coach? Six four six five to fifty trying to lose weight. I'm great. How are you doing? Great. What did you take away from last night? Your headline for last night's draft would be what shooters shooters and more shooters Cam Johnson to me kind of said what the NBA's about EP. I think that you know what? We don't hear, Dan. We we'd never heard this. We never heard the term rim protector, and we never heard the term point guard in the NBA finals. We didn't. And, and it's it's become shooters, drivers and the game is change. And that's kind of what I saw, you know, where where what is fine? Williamson's three to five is you four, you know, John Moran John rant, they think can play with other guards it. That's what I took away from the whole deal. Dan? I just took away that the game has changed the only team that really in my mind. I don't know what's going to happen in Cleveland. But the only team in my mind and said, hey, look, we need a point guard which icago and they got one. But used to be everybody needs point. Everybody needs a four by needs. Rim protection. You'll see anymore, shooting shooting and more shooting. But what's the one team you would fit right? You would fit perfectly. What's the one team where you just shake your head and go? I don't know what they're doing. I hate to say this, but my boys here in Indiana, and I'm getting ready. I'm not sure if I'm gonna rip. I'm not sure exactly what I'm gonna do, but they take a big kid. And, and one of the things that I like to do is, is talked to scouts along along the way between the end of the season and the draft. And one of the things that they said about this. Big kid is that needs to be tougher? Now if I'm gonna have a a seven foot player from the Republic. Georgia I wanted to be a bad ass. I want him to be a tough dude with skill because that's what I see in the league so you already have two guys in Savona and, and Turner, and all of a sudden you go to your draft in another guy, you know, hopefully, it works out, and I'm gonna talk to Kevin Pritchard today on my show. But you know I sat there and wondered the team I thought that did great because I love I don't like I love Cam reddish. I thought I thought Atlanta. Yeah. Due to do the heck of a job. I love cameras, Dan, because you can shoot the Dag on basketball and he's got size. Yeah, I just as I just mentioned about ten minutes ago. He could disappear. I can watch he could be on the floor. And I didn't know he was on the floor. And I understand what Zion and RJ Barrett that's possible. But there were just and maybe he just didn't know what his role was on that team. But I do like the possibilities of I don't want to say potential the possibilities of camera tish with Atlanta. Again, I go from the end of the see I think the end of the season for the draft tells you lot. You know what I saw that? And this could be dead wrong. I it could be dead. Right. No one's ever going to admit it. But I almost saw Zein Williamson and R J, Barron, had little clique thing going with each other. And I don't know if that's right. But that was seemed like to me. And and you know, when you're in it's not nothing intentional. Nothing. But listen, there's nothing. But that's what I saw. And, and I'm thinking to myself, as I'm watching that went back and watch him do games, and your one thousand percent, right. Yeah. It it showed a little bit. I mean you got to kind of look for it. Maybe I'm looking too much for it. That kind of thing, but it kinda showed a bit. But the one thing that I did like about cameras. When I went back and watch him stuff while he did disappear. He was not afraid to take bigshots. He he made some miss some. That's what you do. But he wasn't afraid on that stage with those guys. So I don't know. I'm I'm kind of big on him who had a good night last night. Well what didn't suck to Zion Williamson last night? No team wise. Well, I do think Atlanta I do think Atlanta and I do think the pelicans and the job. And, you know, the Griffin's did did getting all those picks for Anthony Davis. I don't think you know, I don't think you could have done better. I think that they had a great week. I think that overall when you look at what the pelicans are gonna be able to do with their team. It's a versatile team. It's a team that can play you know, use modern professional basketball DP because it's just different but I do I think they had a good night. The most interesting night to me was Cleveland. You got John beeline, who's a teacher. He's gonna have all these young guys and let's be honest. It's a heck of a lot different. You know you can win and play with freshmen, and then she AA basketball rookies in professional basketball p, I don't know. So I thought, that's the most interesting going forward. But this this off season as far as belong to the pelicans in my opinion, anyway. As I on does it work out. I think injury. And and, and you know that's obvious. But one of the things, Dan, he's, he's such a unique body and the season is so long. I mean, let's, let's think my wife said the other day, we're watching MBA. Plus, she goes this isn't hockey. You're still going on. You know what I mean? I mean it's so long and there's so much involved like people think, well, okay. We got a game. Well, if you're Zion Williamson. Yeah you got a game but you're going to be out there three or four hours ahead of time, working out with a guy to get better. I think he's got a streamline his body and the other thing, Dan again he shoots it. I think I'm Williamson's the smartest player in the draft. I think he's a absolute basketball genius. But the truth of the matter is gonna shoot at gray. And that line is deep. I remember. I remember telling NBA guys when Calbert Cheney came cab was great. Not good. Great college player. All timely score play of the year that he and I back in the early nineties used to just shoot around before practice in the NBA three point line was too far for him. It was just was joke didn't, you know. And I remember telling him that and ever since then I've watched that I've watched, you know, college line one thing. Now they're moving it back. I just wonder if he'll be effective enough shooting. That's the only thing. Injuries that I see because that dude is he's brilliant, crazy athletic, obviously, seems to have a great personality who was the best player. You saw aside from the Duke guys best player that you love game that you broadcast. Man. That's a great question. I, I hate to say I mean the best player that I broadcast in a game was jeez. I I really liked the Andre hunter. I really, I really liked him, Dan. I I, I don't I thought he was great. I thought that Iggy bras day 'cause played harder than anybody wasn't the best player. But I thought the Andrea hunter, when I did the ACC tournament. And you know, you're sitting there up close, and you watch, and I will say this, and this is going to sound crazy and people aren't going to like it. But as a college player, I take Carson if you're just in college Now, Dan, you know what I mean? I'm not saying Carson Edwards was electric, even when he was shooting for for twenty four and a game. I did against Indiana. The do I mean Vinnie. Johnson is the only comparison because he shoots the ball. The same way behind his head. He. Jumps up a mile even when he misses Dan. It's like whoa, 'cause he's he's not taught. He's five eleven six and Dan, I'm telling you his release on a jump shot at the apex is probably as high as the Andrei on us. I mean, there's a video of him shooting over the Andre hundred you know jumping as high as hunter can't it. So I don't think he was the best like hunter is such a good fundamentally sound player. But I tell you this man Carson Edwards, that do electric you think he could start? I've texted with Brad Stevens last night. And Brad was ecstatic to get him. That was a big, big namedrop. Right. They're huge. Yeah. Okay. Here's all the time. That's not a huge new drop. Dan, Patrick sent me a video last night, if you drop straight jump shot while I'm trying to cook me and. It's a meet Friday. So I'm you know, I love sending that video to you. I came into the man cave by myself in the afternoon. And I put my phone up to record me shooting jumpers, just to let you know, I was in the laboratory shooting jumpers and dockage sends me a video of I think you had a bottle of whiskey or bourbon had the grill the grill going on your backyard. My son was home for the weekend. We just got done. I don't know jacket around something up sitting on the couch this show to tiger. Look at this school. Drilling. A jumper walk it back to the video, staring at me. Yeah, I got intimidated. I'm not gonna lie. I random. All right. So what did Brad Stevens say to you last night? Well when I was texting with Brad Stevens. He he felt. He thought you know what he, he knows these two guys you know, he got Romeo lane, Kirk, and Carson was they felt like they were a little lucky to get where it's again, it just goes back to what basketball is about the way it's set up to play explosive felt like you know, we all see him we all see words shooting jump shots. But I'm telling you when you see him in person, go to him. I mean, I'm not again, then protection isn't a big thing. He was excited about having having both of them any felt like he knew both of them better, maybe than any, any guys he's ever been, you know, since he's been in the NBA, because obviously, he's from Indiana and has so many people around, and he, he just had an assistant Mike Shrewsbury lead the Celtics and go back to produce. So he felt really good about their potential scores. And he felt really good about how he knows how they're gonna fit in. It's not a guessing game with those too good to talk to you again. Dan and have fun this afternoon. Torching the Indiana Pacers here the best, I think this afternoon, I'm going to have a conversation. Oh with who who you are? We going to tax to this afternoon. I think I'll be texting with GM Kevin Pritchard. And, and no. I got nothing. I'm going fishing this afternoon after my son just gonna sit on doctoring period, go fishing, you know what I'm going to be doing drinking whiskey shooting threes. No threes. Just show. You know what I do? I shoot lights out. I haven't electricians, standing by because I suit, the lights out here. He's on call it could I say, one thing after that whole exchange I get I get a picture from you is like your feet up a little glass, looks like bourbon and a cigar telling me, but you say you're like I team all American when it comes to that your first team. Yeah, I'm crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like a plus seven in golf handicapped when it comes to drink tequila. Good goodbye that. Thank you for having. Thank you, Dan. That's Dan, dockage ESPN college basketball analyst, and radio host ten seventy the fan. Yeah. I came in here. I did it to, to people I came in here on a Saturday or Sunday and I put my iphone up and I had it tilted in a way that I've just gonna shoot hoops. So I was just going to press record do the video, and I was gonna shoot as many jumpers as possible until I missed. And I did one to Dan, doc. It's the other did the Doug Gottlieb. And Gottlieb said something about, you know, he, he was watching a movie with his son, and I said, you don't want better yet, having watched this movie he'll learn more from this because he'll learn how to shoot and it's, it's hoosiers to the comeback, and I sent that to Gottlieb. And then I set one to dockage dockage setback his grill was open, and he had a bottle of bourbon or whiskey on the back porch there. All right. We'll take a break. We got our play. Of the day, coming up got a stat of the day as well. We've settled on our poll question. Reggie Miller, a little bit later on and palling wants to ask the Zion, Williamson question, do you want it before the break? No, so you think your answer. No, I'd rather react in real time. Got this live right now polling got these words right now that I just said right now. That's lot. Those that were it's live Todd is live. It's happening right now. We're gonna do it live. We should we should always do. We'll take a break back after this. Okay. This is just a thirty second commercial and I'm gonna throw a lot of numbers that you please. Please stay with me and just fifteen minutes. You could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, the company that has been offering great rates and great service for seventy five years. It's gyco. I'm using it for a long time itself, and anytime you need help, you could speak to one of their trains, specialists twenty four seven no recordings, the company gyco, go to Geico dot com today. Sorry for all the numbers, but I've been a fan and a customer guy go for. Longtime and five four three two one. I'm out. Stay tuned for sixty seconds of eight me news headlines, right after this podcast. My God to play. Of the day. Playing playing. This is the play. The south mega. Sensitive loan. Piteous. We'll get a second. This will cook, then it was music combined on this pretty impressive. They're courtesy of FOX team USA beating Sweden to nil. US women will now move on to play Spain in the round of sixteen on Monday. I believe this is Miley, Cyrus, a little party in the USA. I believe I believe this is I think, Miley, Cyrus is a very talented performer lady soft that song. Yes party in the US, and what, what's the other be my wrecking ball? Came in like a wrecking. Yeah. Yeah. Miley cyrus. She's killing it. Yeah. See. Number for family. Her dad's on fire right now. He's got that one song that he at a long, take me. Now he's got a rapper right? Yeah. My kids singing all town road. They say it twenty four hours a day. It's the I don't believe it's twenty four hours a day. Mclovin pretty close because I know my son, it's, it's basically about every fifth sentence that comes out of his mouth. It's some line from that song. It's, it's the achey break you heart of this generation. It's oh can we play it? Little nas. I think we can by the way the play of the day brought to you by truecar. You've got a star on your roster when you need to make a good choice. So when you're ready to sell or trade in your car, check out, truecar true cash offer not available in all states. Is clean right? I have. No. I think so do I do remix Blissett. So Kevin Costner said, yes, it is clean. And this is little gnaws will NASDAQ's. In that kid. Vic. More got for Susan. So funny. They're listening to this. Get. Faith is this ability Cyrus song, though? Well, he's, he's it's more feet. I think, oh, okay. So little gnaws, X feet. Billy race based bad feet. His feet has been in a lot. Yeah. We're here. This is Billy recital. Town road. No. That is my black, who slack them. Eight on your boarding about in valley. There is now. It's a big deal. Why did he choose Billy Ray Cyrus, and let us do a really interesting story? I don't know. I don't know the whole thing, but this is basically the only song is written, and it is a monster smash hit and people are like so can you do that again? Did did he write this? Or does he? Oh, okay. Yeah. And then and then they got Billy Ray Cyrus to be on it. I guess, who's more talented Billy Ray Cyrus, or Miley, Cyrus. Billy Ray Cyrus infinitely more town. Two hits. Twenty two years apart. Probably about forbi- lira twenty five years apart. But this is in his song, achey, breaking Hort was his song. They still got same haircut. Well, no, he changed because he had the Moulet, and then now he's just got this long hair. He got longer hair than his daughter. All right. It's a left turn from the right lane on the photo fun. We're famous for that. All right. The Zion question is what I was watching a bunch of analysts night, I have no idea who's who was who on NBA TV. And one of the guys s another guy what's the worst case scenario? What's the low end for Zion Williamson, and they named a player, can you guys guests who they named? It's not a bust, but the player who a physically dominant, NBA player, who is very, very popular in a dunking machine and just never really got there. But close. Yes, he Dominique now this guy was very good. Very entertaining, polarizing people. Tune in to see him. Physical freak but two decades ago. Shawn kemp. Yeah. I was just gonna say Sean Campbell damning. They set this analyst. I wish I remember his name said he goes, you know what? If Zion Weisman doesn't develop the rest of his game by Shawn Kemp didn't develop the rest of his game and ate his way out of the game which I'm sure there's more control over players workouts, inhabits and off the field. But they said the worst case nervous. Shawn Kemp Shawn Kemp had a nice career. Just never got there. God, he could have been so great. I think Shawn Kemp got there he was he would have been NBA finals MVP. I mean he's he was the best player. I know people say, yeah. Crazy he was the he was the most dominating player in that finals when the bulls played Seattle sure Shawn Kemp. They had no answer for Sean Carr's best season. He averaged nineteen points and eleven rebounds, which is fine. But that's not that's not going to be good enough for Zeile incorrect. The fans are not going to be happy with that. He was six, I'm also and was in the MVP race. You know that's not a lows that pretty high low ceiling. I just and that's what the analyst said. He goes. Is not a bad because this is not a bus. It's just like with all that promise and physical dominance. It never got to their yeah. He's going to be better than Shawn Kemp c kept got to game six against the best team. Maybe in history of the game. I feel like they had an unbelievable team in Seattle. Right. But he was the heart but they had an unbelievable to. Yeah. Payton that was unbelievable deadline shrimp. They, they had a great Nate McMillan debt of really, really balanced deep team. I thank you might say riding Rogers who said who's physically client. I did I've said Rodney Rogers and then nobody's echo. Those same sentiments until I'm watching around the horn Kevin Blackstone goes. You know, he reminds me a little bit of Rodney Rogers, and then nobody knew who he was talking about. So I was like, all right. Well, maybe I'll call Kevin and say, hey, I see that comparison similar size. I guess left-handed shoot a little bit move a little bit. I don't know. 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Like today's would rather sit out the last game he doesn't wanna play like Hawaii, Leonard last year at the Spurs. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. There's some leadership issues with we're gonna have to have some kind of meeting because. Going into the point, it's too late for that. I think but Monday, the semi finals and then Thursday, the title game we have an all star game coming up on Tuesday, all of this is available and it doesn't I don't mean to sound this as a threat, but it is available on the DP show app where you can watch all of this special guest star coming in Tuesday for the all star game. Adam Sandler is bringing in his team three on three against the danettes. The Sandman this San men are coming in and Sandman is don't a stand up act in Bridgeport, and he is going to come in early, and he wants to play the danettes three on three and that will be on our DP show app. Yes phone. So the NBA has all star Saturday night, we have all star Tuesday afternoon. Yes. Which is much cooler. Yes, we will have a no skills competition. Like you have no skills, but we'll have that as our competition. And then the danettes have to decide the starting three because it's three on three with Adam Sandler on Tuesday with his guys who is going to be the sub for the danettes. I who's going to be the team captain for you guys. Fritzy can't. Because he's already lost his own team. I can't have him Simic Lovin being team cat. Okay, mclovin. You guys are going to make me sit one of these guys if one of these guys they got. Yes. Wow. Wow. I just picked him to. I have to say if you're gonna make me sit Todd. If you're going to say, Andrew, you have to set dot also taught you have to play everybody. Okay. At some point, you have to play, everybody, mclovin, so seeding is like he's a Draymond green type. He can pass he could shoot. He can rebound. Paulie is a pure old school distributor like nineteen seventies Gus Johnson kind of thing. And fritzy. Yeah, I'd have to bench for it the artist because of what I've seen in three on three. Fritzy is the least team oriented play that is true. That is true very selfish. Yeah. I've got my share of assists and rebound though. If you look at their stats that they're, they're keep. Okay. Who should you start over then taught? I'm I should start over. Anyway. I'm saying. If you can tell me, who you should start over out on os, that we have at least one win in the three games. That's not I'm asking you. One question. Should you start? I think I should start. Okay. Put me on the spot. Oh man. Okay who should know? That's not putting you on the spot. I need a name. You know, it's like the all star games when they say that guy should have been in that guy should one of those. Morale building things that you've been teaching us over the years, who do you want to I and kick off the fried K? Okay. What's the police should you start? Sure. Okay. Seton? Shoot you start. No, actually, I don't think I should. Okay, why because if it's an exhibition and this is about entertainment notes about winning. There is nothing. More entertaining than watching Todd. I'm actually really boring to watch fair. I don't wanna I don't do anything all that exciting. I shoot. Yeah, but I wasn't dead and do that on purpose. Oh, you didn't know and if you notice only run about half baby steps now out there because I don't wanna fall flat on my face. Todd is Mr. excitement. He's electric city. Okay. Mclovin. Why do think seen as a good point? He could come off the bench and be like the primary offensive guy like classic six-man fresh legs like yeah. Like who's a great man. Eddie johnson? He's the Eddie Johnson of this team Vinnie Johnson. Oh, what was the guy nobly? Yeah. Ricky Pierce, who? Ricky Pierce with Milwaukee. Yes, I just went salmon anthems getting confident, they take a little lead. And all of a sudden seed and brings in that burst. Just all of a sudden tides turn complete just when they thought they had us where we want. Okay, because that's what I bring. Yes. That's what you bring. All right. So the starting lineup is going to be Pearl. Paulie and pretty and then seat no becoming off the bench team player. Yeah you are. Very much a team player on Mike Todd. Yes. Paul, you know, Sandler I've heard he's got a low post game like a short range, mid range game who should cover him knowing his seat in covering I needed. Seton to cover is on the bench show. You're going to be guarding. I think Sanmen me I think, well, mclovin, our best do they have a better player than salmon? I believe they are bringing in a ringer who played on the end. One. Oh, dear. Famous last name. Oh, yes. Yeah. Peter, Peter Vesey. The longtime NBA writer, his son. He could ball. Oh, yes. He can bowl where the end none tour. Yes, we are. And none tour. Somebody's going to have to guard this kid because he played on the and one tour K do zone and three on three. It's pretty hard a triangle zone. Seton would have to guard Sandman, and then you'd have to guard this guy. But that'll be next Tuesday afternoon. We're gonna try to start at twelve thirty eastern with the, the official the AU AA the American unethical association all-star game. Yeah. We doing to half's. Yes. We are. We're going to keep it normal, like a normal game young. Yes, mclovin. Do you have to sorta lay off Sandler Lino people who cover Barack Obama were not on top? Sandler loves to be bodied. He loves he's, he's a physical player. Or does he use his strong dude? Yes. San man. We'll take contact what if you gave him a black eye and he had to perform that night? He doesn't have to perform that. Yeah, he does. Yeah. He does have to perform. But if if you, you banging him up a little bit. That's part of the game. This is he's coming into our DOJ. Oh. And that's what happens with Cobra KAI. It's he competitive. Yes. Sanmen very competitive salmon can move Sandler can play basketball. Can he's playing I'm watching a YouTube video of him playing. He's playing with sunglasses on which is an odd move. But he can move now Sandler knows how to play it's not it's got a weird looking shot. He's not gonna fly in an NBA player something as he. No, no, no, no. He's just bringing in his. He said rob Schneider may come with him. And I said, okay, we'll let Schneider play. But the other guy that the ringer, yeah he's, he's gonna do some damn. I love to see rob Schneider matched up against fritzy for a couple of who you what does it have to bring it a ringer? Kenny plano. Who's the ladies man guy? But it should be sandwiched Neider and the ladies man against us, that seems like a more fair meadows metals. Or maybe you could bring in Nick schwarzen- that would be more reasonable. All right. So that's next Tuesday with the all-star excited, I think more people watch that than the actual starting I don't. Oh, yeah, maybe. Well we're gonna find out on the DP show app, but Monday semifinal games, which team is not wanna game. Police team has set up for the number one draft pick, who you are. And we we've covered the spread last week which. Helped all of us at home you were tanking. Dan Patrick show. Brought to you by the great folks at man versus food on cooking channel. They sponsor a poll question, mclovin. Do you have the official wording of our so question I'm a little stuck? You can watch one team beside your own next year. The question is, who to put on some obvious the Lakers. Lebron eighty the warriors to see what they do the pelicans Zion. Then we all said the bucks the seventy Sixers, make it on the list or do. And what about the rafters? Well, we're asking this question. Now, if you could only watch one NBA team next season aside from your own team. Who would it be? I to me it's, it's the pelicans or the Lakers. Those are the two that are really interesting. If Toronto has Colli you're still not watching collide during the regular season. You know no offense here. You're not watching the raptors you might go. The raptors are on. Let's see how they're playing the bucks the Greek freak. Okay. Maybe seventy Sixers maybe the warriors, I think, out of curiosity to see what Steph curry Steph curry could win the MVP next year. He might have a better chance of winning the MVP then he will at any point in, in his career, again, because you don't have clay, and you don't have Kevin Durant in. It's, it's going to be Steph curry, Draymond green. And then, you know, artists to be named later. Yes. Paul is that one of the bigger problems, the warriors have next year as they won't be able to manage Steph, Curry's games or minutes because of seating in the west, they're not gonna cruise to the number one number two, you know, and also that they're going to have to load him up with minutes in games, and then they're going to get clay, and maybe Kevin Durant back and they're gonna have to pace them back. It's it's like a double you just wanna be hopefully amongst the top four teams. If you're the warriors, then when clay comes back and you'll have homecourt advantage to start the playoffs, that's probably the best that you can hope for. There's also talked Brian win horse to the mothership saying maybe they'll do a sign and trade a delayed sign and trade with Kevin Durant. And with Kevin Durant. He wants the most money he wants to get that extra fifty million. And you know what he took less? So they could bring back Livingston issue Dala. And I understand that if he wants to get that max, but you can't then go to another team and all in venue, decimate that roster in a sign and trade. And then all of a sudden not face any criticism because that's what's going to happen. You're going to get your money you're going to rehab for year. And then if you're sent to the nets or the Knicks then you're gonna take how many players away from that team that you're going to. And then you're going to be waiting an extra year before your competitive probably do sign Cairo Irving knowing that you're not going to get Kevin Durant to play for you with, you know, a year at the earliest, now, those are I would not take on Kevin Durant with a sign and trade. If I'm Golden State, and I could do a sign and trade with, like I have nothing to lose. I mean, I'm losing Durant. But I'm getting something. Maybe you get to keep him you're going to sign him to a max deal. If you keep him how about you signed him to a max deal. If he wants to go, then you trade him, and you're going to get some pieces in return that you weren't going to get, if he just all of a sudden up and vanished, but if I'm the Knicks or Netzer, Celtics, or anybody else with Kevin Durant. I don't want him coming off a Killy surgery at age thirty two and with the pressure of having deleted team. I don't want that at. All right. That's the poll question. Couple of phone calls in here. Jordan in New York leads us off this hour. Good morning, Jordan. What's going on guys? Eben. So just update on me listening to the old town road. Song long story short. The song came out, it was just little ex and it actually charted on the country, top one hundred and I, I don't know if it went to number one, but it was like top ten or top fifteen or something and billboard didn't like this. So they remove the psalm because they said it wasn't country enough. And so I don't know how they got connected. But Billy Ray Cyrus somehow gone connection with him and said, you know what I'm going to get on the phone with you. Remix did it then sun goes back on country top one hundred and it goes to number one people were kind of pulling the race card. They were saying country doesn't want to evolve. And so I think Billy Ray kind of stepped up out of nowhere. I don't know how they cannot get what he said. I'm going to help you out here in little shade in the music video is throwing that country or at the billboard hot one hundred. Well, because they had a little skit in the middle of music video, and they like, rob a Bank and Knossos. I don't know if we're going to be safe here. They weren't too nice to me last time I was. Here and Billy Ray Cyrus says him don't worry you're with me now. And it's kinda like the analogy then don't worry I've got you now. So, yeah, that's a little story. Pine to thank you, Jordan. Thank you. For the update, we got sidetracked on that song by will gnaws X. And then Billy Ray Cyrus jumping in there. Yes. Did a lot of crossover going on in country music in the past five years. Like Florida, Georgia line, other bands like that same hunt. They kinda mix in rap they mix in rap artists without and they take their songs from just the country charts to the pop charts. It's happening a lot. But I don't even know what country is anymore because what I grew up listening to was country and western, and then all of a sudden, somebody says yo you know this artist is that's country now. And I went that that's not country. Right. But then you have Chris Stapleton, who is, as there is that's country. And so they're still guys like that. But it's just it's, it's popular it feels like. But I just remember there was a. Versus certain fit like George strait was country Waylon and Willie that that was country. I think a lot of people about seventy years ago, saw Taylor swift goal from very big young country, artists who one of the biggest artists if not the biggest artists in the world. And they say he it's not that hard to do now, Taylor SWIFT's one and a billion. But look what she did. She was a pure country artists, ten years ago, but who's the Shinoia Tulane was. I think the first one where I went that's not country. And then I was told that, that was the new country and it worked. Yes, he sold a ton, but I think that I think these artists, they're smart and they understand how loyal the country music is that, that whole community is to their aren't they buy their buying CDs like pay? They still by CD's and the the loyalty. Dairies Rucker talks about this all the time, you know, when he was with hooting the blowfish that they were loyal fans. These, these country fans are really loyal like they're hard loyal almost like. Fans were to the old NASCAR drivers. They are all in with you. And I understand where these other artists are sent. Can I tap into that? But what is country and what used to be country? Big different. They're big difference. Yes for Eminem performing rodeos. That's a bit of a reach. Right. Shouldn't be doing that. And it's not his scene. Night doesn't do that. But that wouldn't be that shocking bad joke. But, like if Eminem found a. What's more mock headline? Yes, yes, he like Lil NAS X signed a deal with Wrangler. Ooh. Off of all this, and people flipped out about that, too. Were, they were like you should just burn everything, like, I'm not supporting you with this nonsense. I, I don't know. He's a he's a controversial figure amongst that crowd. I guess. Okay. You go back and look at kid rock. Kid rock, was more of a southern rock country guy almost than rap. He just worked it into his songs in, you know, he, he added much southern rock in his songs as anything. He played both. Well, the difference in southern rock and country. A bit. Yeah. I mean I. But it it's in the neighborhood, it's like kid rock played to a lot of fans back when he was big. I've never big kid rock guy for some reason, it always felt like he was taking a song or part of a song from some other artists, and incorporating it into his own son. I mean it word mart. Yes, me seems to be very good businessman. I just ill southern rock. When I think southern rock, I think is Skinner only think of the almond brothers. I think the Allman brothers may have created southern knock ending Dwayne. Allman is probably given credit for creating southern walk that feel and. Skinner came along. And you know that whole group Molly hatchet and who else was in there. Charlie Daniels band, Arshile Tucker band Marshall Tucker band, bring ties forever. And the live version, I think, is twenty minutes and thirty two seconds, something like Z, top was was a band that was had our country with southern rock to them. But because of their stick they played on MTV. And then they became pop pop popular and they're still they're still doing it. Z Z top is, but you can hear that guitar and, you know, Z too, I was like when you hear ACDC with that guitar, and then you just know it's CDC in Saint, it's like Z Z top ACDC every song, sorta sounds alike, because the sound of the band of the of the instruments there. We'll take a break. I have no idea what we just -ccomplish other than Tuesday's the all star game. The three on three tournament is Adam Sandler comes to town. Oh, and he's gonna pay the price. Yes, he is eighteen after the hour more phone calls coming up. Reggie Miller in an hour from now back after this, on the Dan Patrick show is very exciting time of the gambling betting world. And it's a pleasure to announce a bet online is the exclusive partner with podcast, one sports in it. These are go to guys, the guys we trust all things betting lines wagers inside info. You name it, this all online at bet. 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There was a report last night on Adrian Wootton around ski the insider for the mothership he surprisingly mentioned, the Sixers among a group that also includes the nets Knicks, and clippers is possible meeting spots for the finals MVP this, according to whoa, JR. I'm told that Leonard may very well take visits in free agency and with the Knicks the seventy Sixers possibly even the nets. In addition to the clippers according to load. Pretty much every other player, you get a sense of what they would be doing in free agency or why they would go to a team or why they would stay re-sign with another team with Leonard. We have no idea. I don't think anybody has any idea because it he doesn't say anything his group around him, wisely doesn't say anything. I don't think the raptors know exactly what's going on. I think the clippers feel like there's a great chance that they're going to get him. But he could be one of those guys who just says, you know, I'm going to go there. And, you know, he's an interesting guy quirky, and if he's going to go in and do dry, by the Knicks, and nets and clippers seventy Sixers. Okay. I, I still feel like it's either he stays with the raptors in does a one year deal Reince up with the clippers but a my guess is as good as anybody else's. Yes. Mclovin I saw this column in the Toronto Star by Bruce author saying fans should leave him alone Toronto because he's he's a big celebrity. Now. He went to the baseball game last night, and collide is like that. And he'd rather go to an LA or New York where it can blend in. So I felt like that council Ivan Toronto fans don't they mean? Well, right. I mean it's yes. So if he goes to the baseball game in nobody applauds. Yeah. That's not good that better than going there and saying, we want you to stay we love you, but it's something to play in L A, or New York for a certain kind of personality where you could just be in the crowd. Well, I understand going to LA and you could sorta be nondescript. If you go to the clippers, if you go to Lakers, that's not happening if you go to the Knicks that's not happening. You could go to the nets in that could happen. Philadelphia. I, I guess I don't I don't know bets a weird makeup on that, too. I don't see him playing with the seventy Sixers. I don't well, they'd have to say no to Butler Tobias Harris. But it feels like those guys are out the door and read. It could be out the door unless she sees it and says, hey, you know what they got Embiid. You got Simmons I can go in there and I can do what I did with the San Antonio Spurs, and the east is easier, but I don't know. I have no idea about cli-. I don't know if he goes boy, you know, if I get to four titles in my as good as LeBron. I mean I don't know if he thinks of anything like that. I don't know if he cares about legacy just feels like this is my job. I want to go do it where I'm comfortable doing it. And that's it. I'm not asking for anything else. It's not like he wants to be doing commercials. Like what commercial would you have collided? He, he represents new balance. A new balances a great shoe. I just don't think new balance when I take great NBA players. But you know, they got a guy who may be fixed their brand. But when else would you see coli popping up doing a commercial for? Wouldn't it be great if he was there any did one of those Peyton Manning insurance commercials, you know, like nationwide on with Brad paisley on the tour bus? Just sitting there calmly eating sandwich Payton's doing all the work but not saying anything. Like what do you think? And then just having laugh that'd be here you go. Yeah. Direct TV for the first time ever. Watch all the remaining matches on the twenty nine thousand nine fica women's World Cup in stunning four K FOX Fox Sports, one Fox Sports to as watching yesterday with USA versus Sweden. There is a direct TV for K channel. In fact, they're so good. They have two of them on direct TV one oh. Five and one zero six. And if you don't have four K, Goto, AT, and T dot com slash Patrick, four K. For more information this sports history coming up, Jake in Wyoming joins us right now Jake. What do you have for me? I'm on the long road to learn me, Wyoming to broadcast in baseball just list. You got to talk about the NBA draft and all the moves have got me wondering about something locally the trade with the grizzlies, bringing Mike Conley into the jazz it locally. It's got everyone's saying they're not title contenders, or with the west being wide open and not really looking for you to comment on that. I'm more so looking at what what do you think a true value of my calmly at this point is paired with Donovan Mitchell, I like the deal for Utah. I like it a lot. I don't think you gave up much mean Crowder, Grayson Allen couple of draft picks. But, but you get a guy and how old is Mike Conley, mclovin? Si si thirty. But he put up respectable numbers and you know you got a good. Got a good system there. Mitchell's. There you got Rudy Gobert. So I think it was a great move for Utah. Yes. Bertie one. Okay. So thirty one I, I like the move I do. And I think Utah probably looked around and said or we all in or not. And they decided to go all in, and you could get Conley because Memphis was already saying, we're taking John Mirant and the question there a couple of teams that need point guards. I was surprised that you talk to get him. Yes. Michelob. Can we at some point chains pole to which second here team? Do you have to watch the jazz, the nuggets the blazers? Who's the Sixers are in that list already those western teams must watch the blazer must want. Well, the blazers are. You know, one of these days Sacramento you're in early I been in early on Sacramento, because I do watch Sacramento basketball. Do. I mean, it's easy to watch Golden State. It's, it's it takes a little more effort to watch Sacramento. But maybe they get it right. Maybe one of these days, James in California, James. Good morning. Hey, dan. How's it going? Good, sir. What do you have have got a I've got a bet for you bone on behalf of my parents. So bear with me here before I get into that. I want to just say thank you. I've been listening to you with my dad for ten years now. I know you've your, your time with your dad, and you've really brought us closer. So appreciate everything you in the Dan. That's with that. Being said. I think my dad certain go those same view with this. He's got here, we're from California and he wants to do a bit. We're gonna do a shower shave. But it's gonna be a group that if our family wins your entire group has to do shower shave and vice versa. If we lose the bet is the dodgers will win the World Series, the chargers will win their NFL championship the Super Bowl when. Yup. And the Lakers will win the NBA finals all within the next twelve months. Okay. So the next season all three LA teams org, so you got the chargers winning the Super Bowl Lakers, winning the NBA title. And you've got the dodgers winning the World Series and the dodgers would be this year. Yeah. Currencies. Okay. I will. At least will pose the question to the dentist since it's a group effort is everybody in on this bet in the man cave here. Fritzy. I'm totally in on that, mclovin. I'm in on it, but he has a great shot. I love all those teams. Of course, he has a great shot, paulie. He doesn't have a great shot. He has a good thesis. They're all very competitive teams. But the odds are sway stacked against them. I'm in okay? Seat. No counter junior, the third all day. Yeah. I'm into so James, you gotta bet. Tell your dad. He's a good man. He raised you properly by listening to us, and hopefully, you'll get a shower of shame. Yes, mclovin, should we give them to three? Now. What are you doing? Well, I just say in poly points out, the odds are extremely two three. You honestly, think the Lakers and chargers are gonna win. That's not the nobody cares. I mean it's an dodgers in the playoffs. We all knew he made the bed. All right. James, good luck. All right. Okay. You're kidding. He does dashes poor stuff on them. Now. You have the dodgers lost since in three years. They are unbelievable, by the way, every time I look at the standings. Well, they lose in the postseason. I know which of those teams are do you think is most likely to win at all dodgers? The enter now. Me, the Lakers are the Vegas favorite. I would think the dodgers are. But then, you know the Yankee have you guys seen the Yankees lineup. Now like if you don't hit twenty five home runs. You're not any good, like can't make the lineup. Now, isn't that half of baseball though? That is true. That is true. The Yankees have homered in twenty three consecutive games. Now the club record is twenty five and Aaron judge hasn't played yet. He's coming back. Christian yelich, by the way Homer to again. He's got twenty eight. He leads the league in that category right now. Oh, by the way, the Phillies moved Bryce Harper to lead off. Mcconnell is waiting for this to be brought up. He went one for five with three strikeouts. They got swept by the nationals, they'd lost eight of ten but don't worry you got him for the next twelve years, near good. You're in good hands. Be nice if they had a bullpen to be nice if you put the ball in play as well. Goofball. Why do you why do you play me for Bryce Harper? Every other team wanted him to. It's not like I was the only guy. But hey, let's pay a lot of money for this Bryce Harper guy. It's just because you're a Phillies apologised. Oh hundred never heard anything from you about the Phillies in lessons. Oh nine. And then all of a sudden you get Bryce Harper, and then you love them. You were never a bucks fan until the end of the Sixers would bow out. And then you became a bucks fan. Well, I mean it only makes sense. For me to be Ke's fan now, I know, mclovin said, hey, can we jump on the bandwagon? No. You can't junk we go. Can you get us? Bitsy snowing could not. Can we use your name to get good? He's to a game. No importantly, no, you can't. No, you can't. I got a stat of the day here, seating, O'Connor. Six players from the ACC went within the first eleven picks of last night's draft three from Duke to for North Carolina hunter from Virginia most taken that high by any conference in the common draft since nineteen sixty six. Stanton. Also there were four Canadian-born players selected in the first round of the draft. Was it was it me or did anybody else pick up on this when RJ Barrett was selected? He was from Toronto, and Duke RJ Barrett. I, he didn't say that with any other player taken from any other country in hometowns. No. Like the Commissioner said from Toronto granted, they won the NBA title, but he didn't say that about anybody else. He also congratulated the raptors and mentioned how many foreign born players were on the roster. And how many non lottery picks were on the roster. Trumpeting the fact that you should stay tuned for the picks after the lottery and that this is international. You think so? Yeah, it was he had a whole script in front of them. Yeah. Yeah. I was surprised it was like, oh, so you're going to do this for everybody where they're from. And then it, it didn't work out that way. Yes, McClay it started to get around fifteen in the draft. And then they start posting all these Colli Janas shots. Stay tuned. The next guy like echo every year, fifty. And now you can now these guys aren't officially on their new teams. Right. If you traded for somebody, you're not if they're not officially on your team because the deal doesn't take place until July six. They call that the switching of the hats. Okay. But what time of the deals, not all the deals, but what happens if you get injured now, before you go to your team now is the trade is it incumbent upon does it hinge on you being healthy like what happens if one of these guys who got traded? Let's say Deandra hunter he got you know, they traded that pick to Atlanta and then Atlanta takes the Andre hunter. What if he injured his ankle what if what if you know, God forbid, one of these guys break something is the trade still good because you're not on that team. Would you then be does he does he then go back to New Orleans? Like what happens to? Let's say the Andrei hunter. Hey, we traded due to the hawks. He goes to the Lakers. The lakers. Get if he's eight a Lakers logo behind him if he rolls an ankle, you're going to feel awful. I know and that's why I said any player here tighter room is like four teams for move from who actually I have no idea who's on who I felt bad for Reese Davis. And I've, I've been in that role before, and you're trying to just land planes at LaGuardia. You know, you're just going, you know this plane just landed. This one's taken off this one's. It's coming in and just so so much information. And I even read a draft perspective perspective after the draft like a rundown of all the players given grades, I couldn't follow it after the fact because I'm gonna wait. Well who, who were they playing for, because it'd be Milwaukee via Cleveland ending up in Sacramento. And I'm going wait. Okay. So he's a king, and there were it felt like they were eight to ten of these where I didn't even I couldn't follow it in Reese Davis is trying to do the paperwork. There. And I just got fatigued after loan, I go, I, you know, sort this out tomorrow, because I have no idea what, what was happening with some of those guys. This day in sports history is coming up. 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They'll face Vanderbilt first pitch tonight at seven eastern. That's the discover of miles card. They discovered miles card offering unlimited one and a half miles in every purchase automatically match all the miles you earn. No blackout dates. It's just that easy discovered. Miles card today. Limitations apply. Discover match new card members only. Learn more discover dot com slash trifle. It's got to be a couple of black. No, there's not no blackened. Nope. No blackout dates. And how they do that. This day in sports history. Paulie? Dan, we got a couple nine hundred thirty nine Lou Gehrig, quit baseball due to his illness today, today, nineteen Ninety-seven women's NBA the WNBA debut, the New York liberty defeated the LA, sparks sixty seven fifty seven. Now, we have this day in movie history. Nineteen Eighty-four karate kid was released. Is that a sports movie karate, kid sports? All sports movies are relationship movies, and the, the guy wins at the end in the big contest, and the big tournament that all valley karate championships. That's sports what he should have been disqualified for the crank. Yes. But it is a sports move. The sport has Kara Tae. Yeah. Yeah. I'll give you that this day in movie history. One of the better films of all time, nineteen eighty-seven full metal jacket who doesn't watch that one. It's time, okay? Full metal jacket or platoon. They're quite different. I know. But I get mixed up, but tune is Oliver Stone, and it's Willem Dafoe Charlie Sheen Tom Barringer. Okay. Full metal jacket. Is what's his name? Exactly. Modine Modine, the drill sergeant arly armory. I think his name was who is not an actor before you took the role. He was the he was the advisor on the movie and they had an actor during the drill sergeant scenes, and he was so good advising him. They said you're just going to do it. Stanley Cooper, put a movie this day in movie history. One thousand nine hundred eighty eight Dan nine hundred eighty eight one of the better baseball movies of all time. It's when one of these actors was at its peak of fame, Kevin constable Durham came out this week, which hearkens us back to Monday when this was set feel the dreams just again the other day, everyone loves that movie. It's got a lot of legs. It's gonna be around forever. But I was wondering when you're getting pitched field of dreams when they're pitching, you you're at your peak of stardom. Do you ever think this could be really peaked but he toned? We can't do that. I don't know why he was when you were saying was factually, correct. He he was at the peak of his stardom stardom, not acting ability. Yes or or success. You'll never be as big as he was back, then what I was trying to say was, he was at his peak of becoming a Hollywood superstar, and I was surprised his people let him take a movie. That was so risky. And he ended up if you listen to it agreed. Well, you were at peak, though, is like, like a trigger word like I've peaked. Oh, yeah. It wasn't trigger would lead to one of his trigger words to, but it was funny. He was having fun with it actually couple of trigger words in there as great. Yeah, but you were correct in what you're saying. You know what they used to call that movie in Hollywood? It was the cornfield moving. In. That's what he was saying was, you know, factually, what you were saying was true that, hey, you were being pitched this movie where guys come out of the cornfield and, you know, during the commercial break, he said, yeah. You know, they used to call it the cornfield moving because I think that there was some skepticism of this was going to teeter on the brink of tears or just being corny. Yeah. Point, my wife, had never seen field of dreams. I didn't know that, that night after the cost parents, I went home. I said, hey, do you wanna watch field of dreams? She was I've heard of it. I'd never seen it. I go. It's about a guy who lives in Iowa farm of this family and hears voices in his cornfield. And he builds a baseball park to bring back old ballplayers who banned from the game. He goes, she was. That's real. I go. Yeah, I go to one of the most successful popular sports, movies of all time. I liked it. I didn't love it. But but I liked I pulled it off. Yes, they did. I didn't like do you want to have a catch? You know, I was I was just the phrasing. Yeah. I didn't like that. That's how you know, we're talking about that. That's exactly how we set it to have a catch. Yeah. Same way. It's very much a regional thing. Okay habit. Catches east coast. I have play catches. You wanna play catch is what we'd say the midwest. So what do you pretend you're having a catch when you playing catch? What is? Started imaginary friend. Moc catch. Yeah. Let's go play catch the game is catch the game was baseball. I would play baseball who wins some ahead with the ball or baseball. You're playing catch baseballs when you have a bat and ball and that makes threes playing cat. You want to go play catch. Seattle. I would always have a catch, because if you're playing catch them is there a winner and loser in that game of catch. Well, what if you don't catch the ball? Can you have you ever like if the other person dropped them all where you like then you're, you're not having a catch? When I was a kid, I would always play alone. And I would throw the course. Would you throw it over short fan to rob home runs? All afternoon long all day. Really? I did that up until I broke a window or. We had a brick our back. Wall of our house was brick and I would wear it out with this rubber ball in, you just hear, you know, my mom and dad would just be dry. They drive them crazy. Thump. Thump thump. Yep. I here's another one. That's reasonable. There's a game where two kids with on, like thirty feet away from each other, and you throw the ball back and forth and one person runs back and forth and you try to get them out. What did you call it as a kid, Dan, Patrick? Because there's more than one name. I called it running basis on the south side Chicago other kids, call it hot box hot boxes, the other name. Bucks with the great western forum, that was when they rolled up the windows. Different areas the country they called it hot box. Some people call it running running the base running basis. I we called it pickle pickle is an old term school term for that as well. Yeah. But as you're in a pickle. Yeah. In the pickle and you're running back and forth, but I don't remember hot box. Yeah. For Europe by catching flies up. Does that ring a bell to you? You hitting the ball out to your friends, and then someone catches it. And then he got a role at all the way down to where you hit the ball and that you put your back down and hits the bat and the ball, pops up. And that if you catch it you continue batting. But if you don't the person that rolled it all the way in from the outfield that hit the bat and you didn't catch after popped up off the bat. Then they get a chance to bet because it out simple no action flies. And you guys ever just do something simple where you got, like guys together and you played a game pickup baseball pickup baseball. Yeah. No. Do you can never get the do together? We could all the time, like if we were playing stickball we didn't call it stickball though, that we played that a lot like against the side of a building had a strike zone there. But we called it steam in steam in, you guys, don't play steaming in or like other points team in over there. Let's go play fritzy play that game. I did play Stephen in stick. Go to Rocco dot com all the parts you carve lever need Rocco. 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#EERS S8 Ep81: The Presidents Immigration Plan

The Erick Erickson Show

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#EERS S8 Ep81: The Presidents Immigration Plan

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This five ten and fifteen bucks in stores. Now at old navy. Valid five thirteen to five nineteen in stores and select styles only. One. All engine running. We have. So this out from the Wall Street Journal, just a few minutes ago, the college board that designs in administers, the SAT, they're basically going to put it in metrics to allow colleges to discriminate against your kids, if they so want this is, it's a plan designed to add socio economic adversity metrics, adversity score to capture social and economic background. Why? Because they expect the supreme court to throw out a Harvard policy that discriminates against Asian Americans and the college board wants to help colleges discriminated against Asian Americans because they tended score very well academically and also come from stable families that are on the upper end of the socioeconomic scale so they gotta do something. This is crazy. We'll I'll get into the details here a little bit. Also Jim Beck has stepped down as insurance Commissioner east, I think is salary is one hundred twenty some odd thousand dollars year. He's still gonna collect it because he's not actually resigning. He. Just suspending himself. And because he's duly elected and has it resigned. He gets paid for the job. So the state's going to be paying him a salary when he's not actually doing the work on. There's really constitutionally no way to get around this unless he actually resigned from the position and no one can force him to resign from the position, including the governor, even though the governor wants him to we'll get into that. But I the president has unveiled his immigration plan today. Oh, let me start at the end as opposed to the beginning. Oh well, I'll, I'll explain. It's not going to happen, the end redid. It's not gonna happen is because Chuck Grassley Susan Collins, Lindsey Graham, and several other members of the Senate of come out and said, there's no need for this a we don't wanna consider this. It's can't pass in the house, and Senate Republicans are saying, we don't want to do this. In fact, the, the president has privately consulted behind the scene through Jared Kushner on. On this immigration plan, but Republicans don't want to pursue it. However, the president has an argument and it's a Georgia argument for why they should do this. Let me explain this to you. They McKinsey you the McKinsey consulting group, they do all sorts of studies, economic studies and whatnot will McKinsey and company decided to do a study on their own. They weren't paid by anyone. But they decided to do a study of Georgia's economic trends, and there are some worrying signs for Georgia economically. Let me read you some numbers. According to MacKenzie Georgia has unfilled job openings in several sectors in two thousand eighteen twenty eight thousand eight hundred available jobs and transportation and logistics, twenty two thousand three hundred sales twenty two thousand two hundred in computing. Twenty thousand three hundred in healthcare, sixteen thousand seven hundred and office and administration. Again, these are the number of jobs that are not filled. We are in an employment crisis in Georgia, or at least we're heading into one, not because we have too many unemployed people, but because we don't have enough people to fill the jobs that are available. So by the way, this goes back to Chris burns from dynamic money was here, two weeks ago, and he made this point about the current economic news in the state media so good right now. There are so many openings that if you want to new job go market yourself. Get your resume together and start shopping it around. We are at a full employment situation there, a massive number of jobs that are not being filmed sate again. Let me read you the numbers for these are the two thousand eighteen numbers from McKinsey and company in Georgia, twenty eight thousand eight hundred unfilled jobs and transportation and logistics twenty two thousand three hundred unfilled jobs in sales. Twenty two thousand two hundred jobs unfilled and computing, twenty thousand three hundred unfilled in healthcare sixteen thousand seven hundred. Unfiltered office and administration. That's just Georgia. So the president's got to do something, because his advisers are starting to warn him that we need more workers in the country. And if we were to produce natural board workers in this country. It would take a minimum of eighteen years nineteen years really to get him. His org force because it'd be nine months in the womb. And then eighteen years before they get outta high school. The forget college, so it would take us nineteen years, really to, to fill them, natural board. So you know what we gotta do the things some of you don't want to do immigration, loosen the standards on immigration. I mean I don't need to read the numbers again. But you get the sense in Georgia, we need more workers here. We can lure workers from other parts of the country. But if you lure workers from other parts of the country. Well, you're one I mean take. For example, do we really want about people from California coming here? I mean that was where my objection Sam is on bringing a bunch of skinny jeans wearing hipsters from Washington down to Georgia with their Washington, eight theistic progressive hostile to Christian values, then no point. But where are we gonna find the people if we're not attractive for the states, by the way, we did attract them from other states than those states suddenly have employment problems because you've got to fill the jobs in those states. So the president's got to do something, and his solution is to open borders now now open borders in the way, the left wants it would warders essentially with the president is doing is he wants to be able to open the border to more immigrants who were already skilled. Ready have the skills, but he also wants to open schools to immigrants who not only potentially have the skills, but could also then stay here. See it's no good for us to be bringing people into this country. Educating them. And then having them go to China or elsewhere. We gotta find a way to keep them here into. That's what the president's policy wants to curly, only about twelve percent. Immigrants are admitted into the country based on employment and skill sixty six percent or admitted based on family connections. The president wants to flip those around so fifty seven percent of the people were coming would be based on a thirty three percent would be based on family connections, the president as he settled along US deprioritize family connections, based on either bringing children or bringing spouses, or bringing parents in now, the extended family of first cousins second cousins, first cousins, what's removed, aunts, and uncles. So he, he wants to reshape that ballots, but he really wants to make it easier for employers to bring into this country someone from abroad who wants to work in this country. Now, one of the things that this, this policy from the president, this rollout doesn't touch is the dreamers. This plan that the president's rolling out today takes no position on current illegal immigration. What it does try to do is reset the parameters for legal immigration. So, for example, instead of prioritizing people immigrating to this country who have existing relatives in this country. What the president wants to do is prioritize immigration of what he's calling extraordinary talent people with professional or specialized vocation and exceptional students that is students in other countries with good grades, you want to come to college in the United States, will prioritize allowing these people to come in hopefully, then finding them jobs in the United States to develop talent here, a real world situation, here, I actually I was not an immigration Turney had to help a guy with an immigration situation, when I was a lawyer, and he was a soccer coach, and he was a very, very good soccer coach. But soccer coaches, obviously prioritizing, British soccer coaches in the United States was not a high priority. Even for the time it was the, the Bush administration. I it just it wasn't he had a job here. A his visa was. Up for expiration, and there were people arguing that he should not be able to stay in the country, even though he headed employer in this country who wanted him to stay wanted him to stay as a soccer coach, the federal government gave us the runaround for very long time on allowing him to stay because of the his classification on his visa there were Americans who could have done work. The, the was just actually were any Americans who wanted to do his job. And it was a convoluted burdensome bureaucratic process to try to keep a, British soccer coach in the United States working for a private American school, who wanted to keep him we, eventually the situation, we were successful, but it was still a pain in the butt to do what the Trump administration wants do that process is actually got more complicated over time, what the Trump administration wants to do is they wanna simplify the process by which if you have an employer in this country, and they want, an existing employees, who is an immigrant to stay. They'll make it a lot easier for that company to keep that person's visa renewed. But also, if you have an. Employer or an employee out of the country who wants to come into this country and the employer wants them to come. They'll make it easier not only for that employee to come, but to stay and not tie it to their job. Once they've worked for a number of years. They'll be able to stay if they want to if they want to take American citizenship. That's actually pretty good idea. Because typically, what happens is an employer brings someone from abroad here, and that person one of two things happen to you that they stay with the company and you've got to go through the burdensome renewal process over and over and over time or eventually, that is know what I want to go work for someone else, I can get paid more. I want to stay here. I can benefit another company and there's a just nightmare process of trying to make that move. And so this will streamline that, that the Trump administration is saying that this is a Byzantine process, Byzantine bureaucracy very complicated. Convoluted hard to follow it drives up costs, people have to hire lawyers. They shouldn't have to do that. They should be able to do it themselves, and we should prioritize finding people who come here to work now. People who want to come here because their families already here. That sounds like a no brainer to meet sounds like a good idea, of course, again, let's go to the end of this congressional Republicans right now saying this isn't a deal starter where we don't even want to consider this. We're headed into an election season. We don't wanna do this the president's team this afternoon though is signaling he intends to make this a campaign issue. If the Democrats won't go along with it, but the subtle hint theory saying, if the Democrats will go along with it, but the subtle limp location is if the Republicans in congress will go along with this. He's gonna make it a campaign issue that they like it or not, because he really wants to do this, this president wants an immigration deal, again, though, because I'm seeing people tweeting and emailing. This has nothing to do with these not taking a position on the dreamers illegal aliens already here. 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Follow me on Instagram e w Ricksen e w e r I c k as in go follow me on Instagram, you just want to now there is a David Rolston matter in the news today, a case has been dismissed this is the longest outstanding cases back in two thousand nine and individual, according to the prosecutors struck up a conversation with the fourteen year old boy, eventually, they went to dinner went back to the man's townhouse to watch a movie, and ultimately engage. Aged in adult activities in the bedroom. Well, the case has been dropped against this individual. He was twenty nine at the time, the boy was fourteen this was in two thousand nine it's gone on for ten years and prosecutors are dropping the charges now say, essentially that the, the victim didn't wanna cooperate. The victim says he didn't even know that the case set and been resolved that he was happy to cooperate. But this has gone on for so long that they've, they've lost that they basically decided to drop the case Raulston has delayed this thing since two thousand nine when we come back, there's another case that Ralston has continued to delay the case he finally ditched the client when the client said he paid Roulston to keep dragging out the case, he just now ditch this client. We're going to talk to the victim of the alleged attack, when we come back here on WSB. Real quick. Do have to do this just south of Douglasville. There's a big thunderstorm right on the Douglas in Carroll county lines. And then if you're headed south down forty-one through iron Dale, it is raining south of noon as well. There is some rain out there, otherwise we're looking good some sprinkles in the area as I've been mentioning this week. The Republicans are convening in savannah, this weekend to pick a new chairman of the party and also to deal with the crises and scandals that are breaking out within the party. The Jim Beck situation. He has stepped aside, not residing those who continue to collect salary and then what to do with David Roulston as well. In David Rawson has represented a number of people who are criminal defendants who struggles have been delayed for a very long time. One of those is the pending case state. Georgia versus David shell mister shell a repeat offender with prior convictions, for battering women. One of the women who says she is a victim of Jaden shell. In fact, the pending case waiting to go to trial is Jaden carpenter who joins me on the phone. Thanks very much for joining me. I'm good. How are you? I'm danny? Thank you know, there are five Celts in this case, there's aggravated assault. Family violence, battery vanity violence us third counterbattery family violence, as simple battery key in a recidivist charge on this case has been going on now. The indictment was December two thousand fourteen and if you wouldn't mind, would you tell the audience what led to the indictment? What led to the indictment? What did he do to you? That, that you say he did to you. What are you telling before? Something triggered it that I really won't go into something triggered it, and that's all it took for him. And he goes into a full blown rage. First thing he did was knock a fan off of table and our cross the Tampere we were living in a camper at that time. And then after that he came after me. He grabbed me and headbutted me then grabbed me by the throat and slammed me up against the refrigerator. And at that point in time I made a dive, but the bedroom, which is where my car keys were on my purse. You've got to bear in mind, wearing a tiny, little camper with the bedroom. And I was at the end of the bed, basically, about to reach over and grab my purse, and he grabbed my left arm and stuck my finger in his mouth and proceeded to bite down on it so hard that I, I felt like he was trying to bite it off. I feel his teeth on my phone, and of course, he left my right hand freeze. So I started, you know, slapping him and knocking him in the face and trying to get him to let go 'cause it's hurting so bad like. After he realized I was gonna fight back. He let go and then took off. Oh, and I forgot to mention he spit on me multiple times too. But and I, I called nine one one. And. They caught him down the road. He tried to run off, like he always does. Now, my understanding is that is the ran the story and David shells, actually, the one who was quoted saying that's why I gave him twenty thousand bucks. The ability to play the cases he's worth every penny of it. And the David Ralston said that he would deal with the situation and dropped mister shell as a client. So I presume that this case will without the speaker as his lawyer finally go to trial. But you've had to hang on to all of this, and try to keep your memory accurate as, as time has been going on since two thousand fourteen. Yes, it's it's difficult because. He's not the only way to heal is to work through it and tried up behind you, but you can't really feel completely because you have to remember everything if, if that makes sense you have to constantly, you know, remind yourself of the incident and keep it fresh in your mind, which is the opposite of what you need to do in order to heal. Miss carpenter. I knew there are a lot of Republicans headed to savannah this weekend. A lot of them are listening to the program right now. You've got an opportunity to talk to them. And, and what do you think they should do with this David Ralston situation? Well, first of all, I'm a Republican. And on ashamed to admit, you know, I voted Republican across the board and Georgia, which means I it for Davis. In my eyes, he is tarnishing giving that name to the Republican party. And I think that. As far as says, party is concerned, they need to take into account of the tarnishing and of what he's doing to the state of Georgia, this story has gone all over the US. His not just stayed in Georgia and. I mean, the as far as I see it, they needed the Republicans and democrat as well. Need to do what's right? They need to walk in integrity and make our state proud that. We believe in fair treatment of every human being. It's we'll corporate I, I gotta leave their unfortunately because we've had all the the awful news with awful traffic in Atlanta, and I've gotta get to it, but I appreciate you very much. Stopping by to talk about what happened to you. Thank you so much. Iraq in. Hi. Thank you. Thank you. That's Jaden corporate or the case probably will go to trial at this point is the speaker has dropped the defendant, as of April fifth from legal representation as I am assuming he has a new lawyer now or will, we let me round out this situation with MS Carter. So the pending cases, the Georgia versus David Shelley's got a history Cording to the JC of is abuse of women beating up women once barely allegedly beat his ex wife so badly. She blacked out lifter I nearly swollen shut her left I locked in their home. So she couldn't reach a hospital according to her. A girlfriend alleges at one time he slapped and choked her court records, verify that in Rolston got this case David shell said he paid David Rawson twenty thousand bucks these worth every penny of it in part, because Roulston would drag this case out of wasn't a smart thing of him to say. The speaker said he would deal with it dropped the guy as a client. Well, here are the continuances just get a picture of this, the charges came the indictment came in December of two thousand fourteen the speaker delayed it is in July of twenty fifteen August twenty fifteen October of two thousand fifteen December of two thousand fifteen January of two thousand sixteen. They were actually in session at that point August. Twenty seventeen they were not in session December of twenty seventeen they were just headed into session, and then August of two thousand eighteen so one would two three four five six seven eight times. They he delayed it and only two of those where they actually. Concession. And this case has continued to go on. And I told you about the other case where they ultimately more than ten years later dropped the charges because they say they can't track down the victims. Now, the victims say that they hadn't heard from the prosecutor that they would have testified just pitiful situation. This is the speaker of the house in Georgia doing this Republicans have an opportunity to remove him only ten members of the state house of representatives have called for the speaker to go the rest of them have not. You should text the word speaker, two three four five three four five until your state Representative that you want them to remove the speaker from power. This has gone on long enough. Welcome back. It is. You're a Keurigs in here. Atlanta's evening news on WSB the phone number. If you want to be a part of the program for four eight seven two zero seven five zero one eight hundred WSB talk, and we're going to go to James in Marietta. Welcome to the program, James. Hi. Eric love the show. Thank you. The, the Democrats are going to turn this Rolston thing into a national story of next year. So I'm wondering uh citizens can we use their first amendment right to petition to compel the legislature to bring the Rolston Bill to vote? Well, you can urge them to, but you've got to urge your individual state representatives to push it into sign it. Only ten of them have most of them have not an in. I'm making it really easy for folks, if you text the word, speaker, two three four, five three four five you'll get back a link can if you follow the link you can Email, your state Representative Yuqin tweet or state Representative. And you can call yourself over right right from what I sent back to you, this link, you'll be able to put in your phone number, and your phone will re you'll hear my voice. I'm going to connect you to your state Representative. Now the offices closed in a few minutes, but go on and get the link back, and you can do it tomorrow, and call them and tell them he needs. To go. He needs to resign. He needs to step aside. Look gave Jim Beck can step aside. David Ralston Jim Beck is one man indicted David Rawson is one man who has held up Justice for a decade for lots and lots of cases, denied Justice to lots of people who are victims of crimes for a law and order order party, this is something that should not be acceptable at all. It just this is this is something. Now when we come back, we do need play out this, Jim Beck situation. What happens there, David Shafer versus Scott Johnson for the Republican chairmanship, that's heating up. And is there going to be war with Iran here? A lot of Democrats and reporters say there's going to be the president's Nell spoken on the issue. He says, no, there is not all tell you what. I know. One all engine on the. Welcome. It is you're a curate's in here. News ninety five five AM seven fifty WSB and Atlanta's evening news. The headlines keep rolling in the state insurance Commissioner Jim Beck is stepping aside. This actually he he's expediting a process that would otherwise take at least twenty eight days to have happen. What does this mean will the governor has suspended the insurance Commissioner the insurance Commissioner cannot self suspend, but under Georgia law after fourteen days following an indictment of a statewide official the governor under the constitution, the governor can convene a panel that will look at the charges, the, the indictment is based upon and decide if they relate to that person's job. And if they do the panel can tell the governor suspend the person in, in put someone new in. Well, Jim Beck reached out to the governor. And said that you can go on and suspend. I'd like to voluntarily suspend expedite this process. Get it underway even though I'm not guilty. It's going to take time to prepare the defense, and I'm not going to be able to do the job and. According to Beck in his letter pursued to the constitution of this voluntary suspension, shell terminate upon my reinstatement to office following my quibble of these charges. So the governor. As issued an executive order. Whereas Jim Beck was indicted on may fourteenth multiple felony counts. Whereas Mr. transmitted, a letter requesting to be suspended now, therefore pursuant, to the thorny, vista me is governor Jim Beck is immediately suspended from the office of Commissioner of insurance pursuant to my thority and article two section three paragraph. One of the Georgia constitution. So Beck is now out. But. There's a problem, not really a problem. I guess if you're Jim, beg tax payers, may not like this, according to the sea, he even though suspended he will still legally be entitled to his salary. Now. Why is that because he is still technically the insurance Commissioner mcchord into the JC while suspended Beck will continue to draw one hundred twenty thousand dollar a year. Commissioner salary. Now Bob Trammell, the house minority leader saying that Jim Beck needs to resign. The governor as well saying Jim Beck needs to resign. The judge involved Russell vineyard said that bet cannot have any dealings with the Georgia underwriters association and as insurance Commissioner. He's got regulatory regulatory authority over the association. So he's got to he can't do. He can't have anything to do with this. We had to step aside that the governor, though, the house, minority leader other Republicans, as well, Scott Johnson, who is running for chairman of the state Republican party. They're all coming out, saying, you need to resign, not just step aside Beck has no intention of resigning, though. He's insisting upon his innocent, so he will step aside. Be suspended still collect a salary the deputy insurance Commissioner. We'll step forward and handle the role who is the deputy insurance Commissioner. Well. That gives us a leads us into another story that is developing as we head toward the Republicans going to fan. I'll give you those details. Okay. I this is become the it is becoming an issue as the majority party in the state has its convention. It finds itself where it did not want to be it has reduced majority in the house in the Georgia house. A reduced majority in the Georgia Senate, the governor's race was closer than they would have liked. You have a twenty twenty Senate race where the Republicans are blessed by having a lack of strong challenges, right now to David Purdue. And you now have this David Roulston situation and you have a gym the gym Beck situation. Likewise, there was a racial discrimination suit that the GOP had to deal with internally at the state party. So you got all these things coming on. And well now you've got. Johnson, who is running for chairman. He is the former Cobb County Republican chairman, and he's going after David Shafer his opponent, Schaefer, was the, in the state Senate ran for Lieutenant governor against Jeff Duncan lost. Jeff Dunkin has come out very strongly for Scott Johnson. And he put out on his Facebook page. David Shaffer, Jim have been intertwined for decades, both business government agencies. This includes the fact that David Shafer sits on the board that approved all of Jim Beck's alleged criminal invoices at the Georgia underwriting association is a business executive, I find it nearly impossible. The two million dollars could be paid out for services that were largely never rendered and someone not notice, whether it was neglect, or compliance, either way Schafer failed by allowing Becca continuous scheme. Right, under his nose. Someone. Someone not notice, guess typo, whether it was negligence or compliance either way shape or failed. This, of course now turning into an issue as the Republicans try to pick their chair now on top of that the deputy insurance Commissioner who will act in Jim beckstead is tied to Schaefer, Schaffer and Beck. Do have connections. Now, I've talked to a number Republicans who are headed to savannah, all of whom in by shavers a friend. I would be voting for Schafer. I went to savannah. And there a number of people, I've talked to who they initially thought that Johnson may be overplayed. His hand by going after Schaefer Schaefer is a lot of goodwill built up among grass roots. But Schafer's been rather quiet on this issue as they had to savannah. This is going to play on the floor there. My question is this. Johnson is willing to come out and say Belk nieces step aside and Schaefer, shouldn't be chair, because he failed to do this will either Schaffer or Johnson make David Rolston in issue. Are they going to focus on each other and the guy who's been purple? Or are they going to deal with the speaker of the house of representatives who either one show leadership on this issue? It's very, very easy. When you've got a, a statewide elected official who's been perp walked in indicted, by a federal grand jury to say, oh, yeah. That guy. He's bad. And oh my opponent is tied into that guy. And it's it's easy for Schaefer to push back and say, look, we didn't know the US attorney says that we're victims ear. He was able to do this. There was no way for us to find this a he was he did this to friends. He did this to close family acquaintances he did this to us. We're victims here too. I can't be blamed, and it's fair, we'll either of them though. Stand up and actually take ownership of the issue that's actually going to hurt the Republicans in twenty twenty because Jim Beck's not going to hurt the Republicans in twenty twenty. I mean he was there for what a year and, and stepped aside self suspended. If you will, you got them all on record. Now, the governor on down saying he needs to resign, not just self suspend kind of like self deportation. I guess what about the David Ralston situation where our state leaders willing to publicly take stand? We've got ten members of the house of representatives will take a stand on this. What about the rest of them? What about the heart? Would see the Beck would is easy. The Beck ones and easy issue because there's an indictment, the speakers the heart issue and it's a real sign of character or lack thereof that we got a bunch of people in the state, who know privately. This is a real problem edited at twenty twenty but publicly, they don't want to stick their neck out and take a stand someone needs to take a stand. And maybe it should start with one of these Republican chairman, one of them should take a stand. One of them should stand up and say, if we're headed into twenty twenty with David Rolston we got problems, but none of them seem to want to do it. Four zero four eight seven zero seven five zero one eight hundred WSB talk lots of stories out about President Trump wanting to go to war with Iran. The president says it's not true. I'll tell you what. I know when we come back, I've been quip user for a long time, saw an ad on Instagram for quip decided I'd give them a try and I love them, and I want to take time out from the show to tell you about quit. But quip has something new that I want to tell you about a new brush. Same as the original version. But tweaked for size down mouths kids are inspired a brush better more often with oral care that looks and feels like the products adults using their life, and so they're interesting kid size version of quip. So if you have kids, you'll like your toothbrush. Get the kids when now I'm mortaring my thirteen year old the adult size when but if you have a smaller child than that go with the kids toothbrush, is this got the same built into a timer. Pulses every thirty seconds remind us which sides helped clean your mouth evenly. So your kids can brush like a grownup with the same great design now quip starts at twenty five dollars every three months, you get a new brush head for five bucks. Keep your toothbrush fresh. But if you go to get quip dot com slash Eric right now you can get your first brush, refill pack for free. So you use your first brush, at refill back four free at G. E. T Q, U, I, P dot com slash Eric. Welcome back the full number four four eight seven zero seven five zero one eight hundred WSB talk. Let us go to the phones David in Douglasville. You're going to be next welcomed. AM on the way to the convention, but I wanted to share a sex with you. I'm gonna pull over play fly can. Yes, we don't want you to rack. We've already got enough traffic trouble that today. Sent me a message. And he said. I agree with Bruce has veto, I think both on the same page about Rawson he thinks step inside. Well, what's funny is from there. The great behind shavers. People hate Johnson people in Johnston. People hate both of them. One of them is going to have to go up against route of, you know, in the second round and voting for the chairmanship. So I just wanted to know about your thoughts of, you know, how do you think we're gonna play for God Johnson or? Bruce. I mean Scott Johnson or David Shafer, because they're fighting with each other in the third guy is just sitting there on the sideline now and I'll hang up and listen. I ride safely down there. David. I do think that the fight is between Johnson in Schaffer and frankly, I think either would be good. We're blessed to really good competent people running for cheer of the party. You've got e Scott Johnson has Jeff Duncan support that may help him. I don't know it's going to be between those two though. I think. The bowl number here is four zero four eight seven two zero seven five zero one eight hundred W S B talk. I am Eric Erickson. This is Atlanta's evening news. And I'm going to talk to Bob in Carter's Ville. Bob, welcome. Hey, Eric, thanks for taking my call. Sure. Hey, my question is, who is the majority whip in the house, and why not put a lot of pressure on that person? Oh because the majority whip is Trey Killy who counts the votes, and the it is tricky Elliot's universally derided by his house colleagues as unable to take a position without making sure that there is consensus from others. And because there is no consensus of other house members wanting to get rid of the speaker, trae Kelly will be a loyal Lieutenant until the moment. He's not. Or every that he needs to just lose his job. Well, but, I mean, the same people who won't ask the speaker, they're not gonna ask trae Kelly the problem here. Honestly, as berry Fleming, who is a great guy, by the way. I don't mean to sound critical of berry Fleming berry Fleming is the head of the House Judiciary committee and multiple of his colleagues. Tell me if berry Fleming were to come out tomorrow and say it's time for David Ralston to go the David Ralston would be gone, but Fleming would light, too. I am led to believe be speaker of the house, and the problem is that a berry Fleming were to do this. And by the way, he represents Harlem Georgia that area. Good conservative guy, berry Fleming is and e the problem is, according to multiple people that who work with him that he would like to be speaker, and that there is broad support. Behind the scenes for him to be speaker. But berry Fleming were to come out tomorrow and say that David Ralston needs to go, very Fleming, would not become speaker, John Jones who had become speaker and berry Fleming doesn't want to challenge. John Jones for the speakership. So there is hope an against hope among Republicans in the state house that David Rolston will not stand for re election after the next legislative session, and that they can leave well, enough alone, you will exit on his own terms, and then there will be a new election for speaker without giving it to John Jones, because multiple of the members of the house want to challenge Jan Jones for speaker. But they can't be seen publicly challenging a woman for speaker me. She's the speaker brought him. So she get it by default have Dave Ralston step down tomorrow. Jan Jones becomes the speaker and any election thereafter of Jan Jones wants to stay speaker would just be to affirm that would not look good optically for these other Republicans to challenge the first woman. Speaker of the house representatives. Now, there is frustration behind the scenes as well. The Jan Jones will not speak up multiple colleagues of hers in the house who also frustrated with Barry Fleming. They're frustrated with Jan Jones. They think that the speaker already blames her for all of this. So there's no harm. No foul on her standing up saying he should go. I mean, if this is going to be an issue, and it's going to resonate with suburban women who better to call for the speaker to go, then a suburban woman who would be speaker of the house, say it's time for him to step aside. There's real frustration among a lot of these Republicans, and I've tried to tell many of them that I think they're cowards, then I think they are cowards because the speaker is going to drag them all down to a loss of their majority, and they're more scared of the speaker than they are of the voters, and their priorities are mixed up. This reminds me of Republicans in two thousand six in Washington, who were so scared of Dinnie, hash. Yesterday in the Republican leaders in the house, they would not speak up and take a strong stand against the out of control spending, and whatnot from Republicans in Washington. What happened Nancy Pelosi became speaker? They would not take a stand. They were too scared, and it's going to happen, again, some of them because they want leadership, and they wanna play just so and others because they actually are scared more scared of the speaker, and the repercussions of being on the wrong side of the speaker than they are the voters, they would rather have Justice denied to lots of Georgians, then have their precious position in the house. Jeopardized by getting the wrong side of David Rolston. So I I've been Mitch in the story, I really do need to get to it in my politics for those view. This speaker stories not going away. We'll have plenty of time. But for the last two weeks, we have all I'm sure heard these stories about possible war with Iran. The media has played it up. Democrats in congress have come out to denounce the president for possibly. Considering it and the reality is, it's not gonna happen if the president very vocally today says he does not want war with Iran. What is happening behind the scenes is, is the Iranian situation is destabilising. Iran is lashing out there have been reported attacks loyal pipelines in the Middle East looks like Iran has been preparing to strike American and Saudi interests. There's some speculation that the Saudis are our staging some of these things to get the president's attention. I'm not sure that that's true. But those allegations are out there quite publicly at this point. The president's team believes something needs to happen in Iran. They don't necessarily think that they need to go to war with Iran, but it's been interpreted as the president wants to go to war with Ron, the president, very clearly today now has come out and said, absolutely not, we're not gonna do this. We're not going to go to war with Iran. We want the situation resolved, but we're not gonna do that. I think the solution here is going to be very much like the president's been doing in Venezuela is allowing people in Iran immobilizing those people to take action, remember with Barack Obama. You had the, the Iranian people rising up to protest the Iranian regime. They were protested in the streets. The president had spoken kindly oven, positively of protests throughout the Arab world. And then when it happened in Iran, he became very, very silent and wooden grant amnesty or Silom to the protesters around. It really crushed the movement. Lot of people within the Trump. Ministration think that if given the opportunity for the people of Iran to stage their own uprising. Again, this president would encourage it and recognize it and try to encourage the people to do it. And that seems to be more what they're hoping they don't want direct war with the run. But if the people in Iran wanted to start a rebellion against the regime that we would probably support it, but I would tend to ignore all the press reports about the president wanting war with Iran. I don't believe it. He himself denies it. In most of the people, I know in the administration who are in fact involved in the Iran situation say it's just not happening. It's not in the cards, unless Iran does something, they don't foresee no-one is plotting for war with Iran. They just want to help the people of Iran replaced the regime. The Starlight lounge presents an evening with the progressive box. Let's go tickling the ivories. He just saved by bundling home and auto. Progressive gonna finally by a ring for that gal of yours Ugo Santa Monica. Dolences. Nice to meet. There's. In my all stinkier. Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. 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#10: Shaina Zaidi - Turmeric, Basketball & The Beverage Business

The Nik Ingersoll Show

1:24:58 hr | 2 years ago

#10: Shaina Zaidi - Turmeric, Basketball & The Beverage Business

"What is correcting? Thank you so much for listening to the show. Please don't forget to subscribe and leave a five star review. It really would mean the world to me. It makes a massive massive difference. It really does so. I appreciate that well well. In advance. This podcast of course is is always brought to you by bar and it's a company that co-founder with my two business partners in two thousand and thirteen and we make them Oh stacey inorganic snags that you can put inside your mouth. You can pick them up at places like whole foods you can also get him a barn in dot com <hes> using code and I paid to get twenty percents off your first order on this episode we have Shane is eighty. She is the founder of to me. which is the most delicious turmeric infused water water? You can put inside of your body to keep it hydrated and absence of inflammation. It basically is a drink that says Holdiniberia gatorade and with that. Please welcome Shayna Z._D.. Shayna how are we today. I'm great. I'm great. I'm so happy to be here likewise. Thanks for thanks for coming on the show and talking with me. It'll be fun so I WANNA start by asking you a couple of things about turmeric so terms substance that I've used for quite a long time especially for inflammation if I get injured or something like that I take it in the pill form topical 's and certainly in beverages and everything else what are sort of like the actual healing properties of Turmeric. It's something that's been used for a long time and other parts of the world but I'm curious to hear from you being the expert on the subject sort of like what's the deal yeah I mean it's been used for thousands of years as you said mostly in South East Asia Asian countries <hes> where it grows rapidly and basically the the biggest thing about it is is that it's an anti inflammatory so you know it's been used for soreness swelling headaches basically all the inflammation in your body. It helps to eradicate it minimize it attack it at the cellular level. It really acts as it's like food medicine that is just food so right and it's interesting because turmeric. It's like it's been around for so long but then all of a sudden it's like this super brand new thing right any like Erawan for a billion dollars a pint or whatever yeah it's fascinating. I feel like there's a lot of things that we used to use. As the human race back in the day that just got lost somehow or maybe isolated to a certain part heart of of the world what parts of the world would you say were the highest consumers of turmeric traditionally I would say in <hes> in India and the probably the highest conservancies in all different types of of culinary dishes to Houston vegetable dishes chicken curry. You know all of those Masala has turmeric in it. <hes> used initially for the color for the flavor <hes> also four the medicinal properties because most of their food really has. Are You vetik medicine Edison built in two ingredients are you are you pull that word out like Dad Debbie standing probably use that includes Oshawa Gonda that includes human because <music> all all of those spices and herbs that are really really good for you so interesting. Were there like certain subcultures or <hes> you know certain sects of of religions that used that general type of healing more than others I mean I believe so. I'm not that's where I'm not total expert. <hes> my dad is originally from Pakistan. His parents were born in India so they grew up on toomer. They grew up on herbal remedies. They grew up on our medic medicine they had had you know Tolsey Tea Chai tea every day so they for them. It was part of their culture. <hes> I don't know how it plays a role in religion actually because when brides were to get married <hes> they would have like a whole ritual where they would there would be a turmeric paste that would be applied to their body and that would to bring out the glow of the skin in preparation for their big day so yeah so it it is used like all in all aspects and even in art so again because it has ZAC color natural dye that that brings out that yellow color so definitely they're more into it. Thankfully it has been passed down to me where it's just something that I grew up on without. Even knowing I had a bruise I had <hes> a sore throat any kind of problem it was literally go see grandma and she'll make something for you and it usually had to merck in it and then later on I was like what what was that magic that that was consuming when I was little how do I get it more my diet now so wow that's fascinating so your grandma would would cook it. Up is like sort of a a cure all yes you should make she'd have these leaves like banana leaves and all types of leaves and she'd put all sorts of ingredients in there some paste some dry herbs <hes> and we'd either eat that or she'd crush them up and she make it into a pace that we'd apply topically or she'd cook with it and we'd have it in the dish so definitely well yeah. I feel like the the food and food as medicine in trend is is fascinating because it was like back in the day in in various different cultures around the world that was sort of the thing right like it was obviously they had a bunch of other weird practices didn't work guy leading you of your sickness and things but but some of that food is medicine stuff as it has been around for so long and it's only now that that food companies and young startups like the one that you have are actually doing something that is is bringing it back full circle right right I mean I don't know why we stay away from it. I mean obviously I feel like we're a little too young that we weren't in charge of of that movement <hes> but people definitely turn to more artificial more processed foods. I think probably from a convenience standpoint point is why and the taste I guess tastes standpoint and art. Our obsession was sugar kind of created this movement you know of Sodas and junk food and fast food that we have mostly in the U._S.. You know obviously and other parts of the world. They're still eating off the land. They're still eating their own farmed food so I'm happy to see that it's a change again too good for us obviously yeah that's interesting too because like certain parts of the world or or even worse than the U._S.. Mexico right I mean I think you know it's primarily because of soda consumption and depending on sort of what culture your background is from the diets were so different different way back in the day like if you think about sort of the Scandinavian environment where where my bloodline is from you know everybody is just basically surviving on fish and like seals or whatever wasn't any like you didn't really grow much in ice and snow and then you go to somewhere like Thailand and it's purely fruits more or less like super plant based diets and everywhere in between what other sorts of termites an interesting thing because it's this route right and it's it's like this yellowish orange sort of really dark like it's like it'll stain your your fingers. If you get actually cracked open one of the hill and accident my entire hands sleep bright or introduce exactly what sort of in the same family is turmeric ginger is Ginseng sort of in the same kind of thing or as far as being a route or arise them. I mean in that way. They're all kind of related <hes> <hes> we we think of Ginger as as to mark's cousin <hes> tumor being the super route and ginger being also having it's great properties and its benefits and some basically most of those rise homes especially where they originated from or where they grow rapidly in tropical typical environments those ones tend to have similar properties antioxidant being the number one <hes> commonality between them and then also just <hes> just how you can consume them. You know you can have them raw as the route you can you know their heat tolerant so you can boil them and make them into a t you can use them and cooking and you still maintain all the properties of them interesting interesting and so what what is the functional difference between Curcumin woman and Turmeric or Curcumin is found in turmeric so I like to think of it when I speak in big just generally. It's like the potassium in bananas so it's like the main powerful ingredient and Kirkum annoyed. There's three types of them. I'm that grow are the properties of it in Turmeric and they all have a little bit of different function a little different chemical makeup so that's fascinating yeah yeah. It's like I've had quite a few sports injuries as well haired so or motorcycle injuries as for that matter and so I feel like sports it's still sports guy yeah especially in Los Angeles when you're splitting all the time right you know try not to get murdered by vehicles but <hes> feel like turmeric at least every time that I experienced some sort of injury unlike borderline O._D.. ING Arm Turmeric. I'll take like five thousand milligrams in a pill. I'll drink to me. I'll I'll do anything that I can do. Took it in my system. Now it's great. I mean normally we. We're not getting enough of it in our system so <hes> it's always good to have it and add it so make an incremental difference over your life so it's almost like an ad ingredient. That's in your daily routine but it does have those those powers that that when you are injured or when you are hurt that can help heal the body so yeah is the idea that it's better to sort of consume. I wouldn't say a micro dose but like a daily dose of Turmeric for a long period of time more than sort of what I'm doing which is just like an acute overdose strumming Botha works. I mean both obviously anytime you get it is great but having daily is key in fact there's winsome doctors that have done some research and gone to different parts of the world to see you know who who's living the longest and there's there's like a growing population community of centurions coming from Asia that that they went to see well. How are you how are these women living to be over one hundred years old to like generation after generation how is that possible and one of the aspects of one of the things that they found was that too they have turmeric in their daily diet so they're getting it every single day and because of that it's that into their life right right interesting so fascinating yeah Turks like I have like a very close relationship with? I feel like you know injured all the time but yeah no. It's it's I do too and it's great I mean I definitely think it's something that everybody is aware of how to get into their diet ironically. <hes> it's in mustard so tumor Kazan mustard. It's been in mustard for forever since mustard heard was invented. I guess are used packaged and it's because it helps make it yellow. That's why they use it as more of a natural color but you'll notice that there's runners ultra marathon runners runners people that do outdoor outdoor activities that they'll take packets of mustard with them and they didn't really know association. They were just know that if they cramp up or if they need something they'll they'll eat a mustard pack and it's because I mean there's just trace amounts of tumor in there but it is because so that is why it helps. It's not necessarily the mustard seed. That's doing that so you're running. You're running a marathon. You're like almost dead suffering and like you know what would be so good mustard pack hardcore dude it is but since starting getting more involved than using that as an ingredient for for our company I've heard people tell me that all the time all the time that's fascinating yeah so so with with the drinks then you have at least would I had seen on the market previous. Previously is like you would have a turmeric beverage and then you just have a giant pile of its or the bottom of whatever the liquid happened to be <hes> but with to me and what you've made it's like suspended somehow or like blended in a way that that doesn't do that yeah and you do that like what's going on yeah pretty much yeah pretty much magic. Now I have to definitely think we were fortunate and when my you know my dad and I started and we wanted to kind of go into the kitchen and make something that I could basically started off that I can consume daily while I'm working out and something better than what was out there and <hes> we're fortunate that we were able to partner with the food scientists that has over back to that word against sixteen patents in our medic medicine and just really knows how to use use different herbs to make you know increase their bioavailability. Make them more water soluble so that way you don't have that just sediment that just sits at the bottom bottom of the bottle auto because not only does it doesn't look good and not only you know just doesn't seem as appetizing but it also affects you know how you consume it because not everyone's drinking. Tell that very bottom so agitating each sip. You're not consuming those ingredients. They're staying at the bottom and if you don't finish the bottle and you don't have that chucky taste at the end than most drinks. You're not getting those ingredients so that was a big focus for us and just trying to use a little bit of of technology of. Food Technology to be able to make sure that it was easily dispersed so we do still have some that comes to the bottom but a good shake and you're good to go in and the sheik is pretty late like the tumor drink that had back in the day this is like I don't know two thousand thirteen so it's a long time ago I found it. I think he found it in like this. I used to have this habit of just going to all these random like Vietnamese markets and stuff and just like buying random stuff and there was some in there I didn't know what it was because it was like in Chinese or Vietnamese tried by random something every week and it was a term beverage but I didn't notice shake it up and so I'm drinking this shit and like Oh. This is pretty good yeah. I'm drinking the thing a and then all of a sudden at the very end of the drink I go to like the last girl and I took the fad as gopal just like pure like powder with leg soaked in liquid terrible Ivette. It was like taste insane yeah and I mean sometimes we do when we're trying to get good food in our bodies. Sometimes we'll do that. Plug your nose and Gulp whatever you need to do almost like put it down like medicine but you know when we wanted to make something that you can enjoy and you can use hydration and while you're working out or while you're performing. You're able to SIP on it. You don't really WanNa have that that tastes that you experienced so that was kind of like a main focus for us guys to it's it's it's a hydration play in a lot of ways right and so this is like <hes> sort of an all day hydrating thing and then also you know when you're playing sports interesting thing to me at least is you know a lot of these sports. Beverages your Gatorade Raider your power eight or whatever it was like mostly food coloring in sugar with a pinch assault not shouldn't really be drinking that stuff almost ever and so the interesting thing about what you have going on is something thing that actually reduces the inflammation in your body <hes> after your out which is fascinating do people from your experience. I think sort of understand that piece of like you know you you have sports background. You played basketball in college orange like do you think that people sort of understand that I think they're starting to <hes> in part of it even when learning about how how does that and how tumor helps with inflammation after sport I immediately got excited because that means you don't have to go to you know cold pool afterwards you know have the ice as much that was that was my thought process I mean I know people have different theories about <hes> you know ice and cold and the cry Oh and whatnot as far as how they work or if they work but but for me it was always okay your body's really sore you jump in the cold pool or you take an ice bath and to be able to have something that you don't necessarily have to do that because you're healing yourself from within that was exciting enough for me and I think people are starting to realize just trying to find other remedies outside of seeing a trainer or having to suffer and they wanna get in things that they're already consuming during their sport so that's where in having alternative they're really kicks in yeah and when you were involved in playing college ball what was like the worst part of recovery was the ice bath and ice out one hundred percent that feeling like you can't even get up and you can't walk and then having to go into the ice bath and put these little booties on your feet so that way your toes when it frees is fast where the worst and we had to do them so and did you go. Did you go arms in her arms out <hes> arms in a lot of times not not all the time yeah yeah all the way up to neck so just all the way up to the neck I would go sometimes because if your back or your arms but yeah it's tough for sure helped. I feel like it helped. I I believe in that type of treatment but that was tough yeah. The ice bath is I go to a a Russian spa which is like a contrast therapy spa essentially so you go into the giant brick oven essentially where it's like two hundred and twenty degrees of just sitting murderous heat and then you jump into the ice plunge and it's like it's it's water but it's like thirty two point one degrees. You know what I mean. It's just barely above freezing and so I just try and stay in there for as long as humanly possible but oh man man. That's tough yeah. I was like I mean I've done something similar at a spa that was going to say obviously you're more extreme than I am because brick oven I go into a sauna and then I go to Kohl's little different but even in even in the cold I believe it it gets to those low temperatures and I can only last for like thirty seconds yeah. That's when you WANNA go in there my whole my whole goal is to just stay in for as long as humanly possible or less and so I'll go in and and I try and stay in there for around five minutes at a time. She Switches Pretty Extreme Mon Mike. It's funny because in there like I'm doing it for mostly sports recovery and when I'm in there I see everybody else who old dudes just like doing this on a thing whatever most don't even go in the ones that do yelp when they go in you could do for like five seconds if yeah in and out immediately and I can only imagine getting ice baths. It's just not gonNa have a while and then it does stuff to your you know you have to be really focused and calm because I've tried to sit in it for for longer periods of time and not quite five minutes. Maybe like a minute and when I get out I'm light headed a little bit dizzy because your body kind of goes into shock can a good way to heal yourself but you gotta be calm and it's almost like meditating in there. Yeah you always have to meditate as you get these these cold reactive cytokines in your body recover and when you're in there and it's just like so fucking cold and you don't know what to do is have to bre- terrible relax because otherwise otherwise goner honor. It's hard to breathe if you're not used to it too like when you get an ice bath you remember like first time you went in there and then all of a sudden like all the air just get sucked out of your pilots. Give me out of this place exactly uh-huh yeah exactly well. What do you think about <hes> cryotherapy in that whole thing I I'm a believer in it? I mean it's similar as I as we've been talking about to you know putting yourself in in cold temperatures and ice or ice bath and it's another form of that in my opinion helps with relaxation <hes> I know I haven't gone too much in the studies of it. <hes> not a not not a physical therapist and you know my my expertise in medicine doesn't exceed lead you know knowing about tumor but but in the sense I do I do believe in it. I think it helps a lot. You know I didn't do definitely think it helps and a friend of mine has a a Kreil cafe as they call it and so it's really helpful even they do facials shoals so it's Kinda like stimulate the skin in your face to Vermont up and also relax and help ease out some some of the wrinkles and it's good for that as well right. It's pretty good where you never getting younger. No Yeah Age is undefeated always going to get you exactly so hold on so I saw someone doing this on instagram the other day and they had it was like a little like a little wont or something like that fat and the girls like Glue Down Table and she got out of the Cryan Chamber and then jumped on the table and then had like this Krio wand getting put on our faces at that's the thing it's <hes> like a mobile unit so they just can be able to do it. You know topically to wherever your face your shoulder your elbow and use it in that way so you're not just going in the chamber that you can just apply to certain areas like a little wand interesting thinks he can also do that not just to you know become twenty two again but you could actually use it to surf acutely treat certain part of your body well. I've done it on my knee. A little bit helped. I've done it on my shoulder on my elbow so I feel like I'm a firm believer in all of that helps you know an athlete and having gone through all that we go through just any any way that we can get a little bit alleviate some of the pain and just help heal our bodies is. I'm signed me up now. When you're when you're competitive in athletics like you and I both are it's like you're always more prone to injury because you're just going when you're relaxed? Time is riding a motorcycle yeah of course yeah that's. That's a bit of a problem. I feel like all those all those remedies. You almost have to do them. Have you ever had any crazy <hes> sports injuries before I'm blessed. I'm very very happy and thankful that I haven't had anything outside of a fractured ankle which for basketball kind of comes with the territory. It's nothing that serious I mean it is but it isn't the normal person probably it is but you know three months you know just a little. It'll rehab on your back out there. I was able to play the next season so it was okay and then I did break my finger and I had to have surgery but <hes> thankfully I was able to to have a good doctor. Get Surgery <hes> rest for two weeks six and then was out there playing again so I asked you like hey have you ever had any like big injuries. Snap my ankle on half busting my finger in surgery but other than that I mean I know exactly as I was saying and I I was like I guess these are significant but not if I'm able to play Ma'am able to still continue on than for me. I'm thankful that it wasn't that serious so word or and so we're both of those injuries because of basketball won't actually maybe <hes> what is your background in in basketball and where did you play and story absolutely <hes> both of them were basketball. <hes> was in a game and the finger was in pickup just practice and <hes> I grew up actually playing tennis and basketball <hes> since I was about four years old tennis and then Fourth Grade Basketball and was fortunate to be pretty good at it and went and played at U._c._l._a.. So I play basketball U._C._L._A.. And afterwards continued my career and played overseas ABC's for four years so I was in Germany for all four seasons I've played for the German Basketball League but also got to travel and play against other countries in Europe and how to amazing experience and able to continue and do what I love to do and and explore the world so it was wonderful yeah awesome yeah I encourage anybody and everybody to travel. I mean <hes> it's it's a big thing you know to be able to learn from other people and other parts of the world and then also to be doing in something that you love. It doesn't get better than that right did you. Did you pick up any Deutsche reckon. I'm visiting business. They're good I speak zero. It was all ready for you to come out to German roommates in college and so I only know like the cuss words because we'd be playing like a video game. I still yeah I still use that. When you're playing basketball over there <hes> what what countries were the most bad ass play well most of the time I was playing in Germany so but but even from being in there like the things that would normally be called fouls here in the states or that I grew up? You know that's not how you play. That's a little too rough over there was it was all all game you know yeah. It was all game especially. They don't protect the guards very much for some reason they protect the centers in people closer to the basket but when you're out on the perimeter or your dribbling the ball if you're getting banged around you're getting hit. I'm there was times when I literally looked at the referee. Was I kidding me. You've now with most of my games this league this season and you're not going to call that and actually one time. One of them told me <hes> well. You're gonNA enough you can handle it. I was like this isn't professional leagues. This is what you say so intense but you know they're pretty a bad ass out there. Wow that actually surprises me because I don't watch any sports other than fighting sports or anything I grew up playing basketball and football everything else and you know I feel like the number one sport that everybody watches over there of course is soccer mhm and if you ever watch it professionals it is hard for me to watch because everybody is such a bitch and that like everybody like that y'all down. Oh my God flopping. He's one of the most egregious things I have ever since they got shot and get up and play the rest of the game. Meanwhile I'm watching like Alexander Gustafsson and John Jones beat the live and shit out of each other five minutes at a time fragging head kicks elbows his knees yet and fine. Yeah meanwhile like my perception was probably over. There is even more nerve up but it's actually less yeah yeah definitely it is and and. And Soccer yes football is the number one sport and then basketball actually a second in a lot of a lot of those countries so fortunately it was in Germany and they'd come to the gym same way they do to the to the soccer stadiums they'd have their big drums and they would be pounding like the big drums they'd be doing their chance all of that. It was pretty wild as awesome yeah. And what position did you play. I played point guard shooting guard so so brought up the ball but also can shoot pretty well so can move over to the wing and shoot yeah so you playing a Gema pickup somewhere on your instagram story the other day train the three yeah so I still try to play from time to time and it's kind of fun because just in the basketball culture <hes> there's been bringing it back to instagram and social media. There's a lot social influencers that are doing parodies to to pros and making funny cool videos just mimicking some of the situations that happen mostly in the N._B._A.. Or with the players and so I've become friends with quite a few of them and have them to be able to actually COMPLA- they're actually really good. It's not just making jokes on instagram so we set up a pickup game with a lot of them and it was pretty fun. That's interesting you know with with major sports like the N._F._l.. Mel Leeann Leeann held something. I don't watch fascinates me. Fascinates me is like you have one major league that is dominant. There is no other maybe maybe up AAA in baseball or whatever but it's not really taking that seriously and in somehow with Emma May and of course it's a newer sport you have see which predominantly the major player right but you also have a whole bunch of smaller professional leagues hangings right but they're just smaller doing their thing and I just wonder if there's not a market opportunity for things like basketball well there. Are That's funny finding that you said that could just the big three. The Big Three is a league that started up which is a three on three three competition and so that's one piece of isn't is at the geriatric we know well. I guess all retired players of it. I mean there's good. There's AH better than me. Hey it's it's becoming a thing I guess people are really into it and they're still playing great basketball and but that's one aspect <hes> there's there's leagues especially in California I mean California has the drew league which has been going around for a long time and a lot of the pros come and play in it so truly yeah it's called. What is the drew? It's a basically <hes> a summer league. It's a summer basketball league in mostly. It's for or professional player for like N._B._A.. Players come and play in it <hes> you're like overseas players some college players and just basically a chance for them to play in the summer in the off season of actual basketball season and <hes> it's started had <hes> at King drew magnet school and it's been there in Compton and it's been there for the past twenty years or so and all the pros come back to it and play in it and battle in it and this it's official Schol so I don't want to say unofficial. It's an official league but it's not a professional league room so yeah. It's like yeah. It's like an amateur pickup league kind of yeah that hybrid that turned into something greater vigor and more meaningful so wow that's cool do you do you remember the ball to yeah for sure it happened and no I think it's still does well like in most Asian countries but I really I mean that's where I hear it still being around dude and one and one back back in the day when we're Kansas like this there was a basketball tournament but also they started making socks in X. knee shirts. I heard that one was dope like yeah for. I don't know how long it was. Maybe the eight to eleven or something like that <hes> probably would like like somehow which is like fizzled out in one way and then I was in Nebraska in November at a Wal-mart which they saw some and I saw and one sneakers no way twenty bucks up here. You didn't get him. You Damn right you damn right. I did twenty bucks man sneaks. That's funny though I bought like they're okay. They're fine shoes but apparently end one is relegated to use super the jeep sneaky get now somehow I would who founded Amazon won't get him in the podcast humor her whoever they are definitely yeah and one I know someone <hes> that's part of the <hes> Slant Magazine magazine and they obviously did a lot of things with with an one just basketball basketball culture so it's interesting yeah how how just phased out her. You know I see stuff on the professor. Remember the professor was the basketball stars that used to do all kinds of different tricks <hes> I still so things of him on instagram and social media and whatnot so what do you think about the Harlem Globetrotters <hes> I think they're great like it's an act. It's entertaining. It's almost like some people W._W._e.. For much yeah I would agree with that pretty much. We'd get like a team of scrubs and then you put the team of leg due to play and then they just get dunked on pretty much Gotcha Yeah W.. W exactly it's all for show so it's not really serious not not really going out there to beat someone you already know. You're going to beat them. Yes undefeated probably I would I would I don't live allowed to they got to be undefeated yeah so I think it's fascinating to think about sort of the the rule sets in various types of sports and and maybe the reason I think about it that way is of course with Emma. May It's very new bruins are the rules have changed a lot over time but if you were to change call it three or change or modify three order eliminate or add three rules in basketball. What would they be? Would it be like traveling. Would it be more lenient or more strict fouling or that's tough because it has been changing as well as far as what their emphasis is on that they call <hes> just like the travel I mean those of that have seen James Harden play in his step back and step back step back step back you know when I learned to play basketball. That was a travel oh yeah you'd be called him yeah exactly and and the euro step even that why do we call it the euro step because it's when you essentially take like almost three steps and how you you you're allowed to steps in basketball to make a layup or without dribbling right and so most of the time it's like a one two and then you lay the ball in well with the euro step you take a one kind of at an angle and then you take the other one in the opposite direction action to kind of like lean your body around of defender so it's like you're kind of you're not just going one to layup. You're moving one to the one side than the other to the other side and <hes> so it's called the euro step but it's almost a travel it used to to be called travel here and now I guess because we have more international players playing in the highest leagues that now it's allowed so there's certain roles that have already already kind of been in place. They moved the three point line back in college basketball to tomorrow more refugees to be more in tune with the professional N._B._A. and W._n._B._A.. So there's already been a lot of rules change. I don't honestly watching the game right now. I don't know if I personally would change anything so there's a lot of talk especially around the women's game to lower the hoop or a great idea. I mean I mixed. I have mixed feelings so it's like he doesn't play coed sport and that means that that would be more entertaining for you. I mean it definitely need. That's my point. We need more of more of an audience and especially more from the male audience to support it so it is something you know kind of two toss turnover but and it's already a smaller ball it's closer three point line so but women are stronger and uh-huh and just think the game is evolving the W._n._B._A.. Is I think at least twenty five years behind the N._B._A.. So it needs time to catch up and there's women that can dunk now on the ten foot hoop so handful well. You're right but I do feel like I do. I mean you know women's and men's sports have always been in different right and don't compete against each other professionally for a reason so why wouldn't you have a different set of whether it's like the height of a volleyball net or the size hall or the women generally are not all are smaller than men so why wouldn't you proportionally sort of switch the stuff instead of just taking oil dude so now. We're just going to give it to everybody to say because like little kids like five year old with a N._B._A.. Size ball to throw it into a giant here right. I mean you bring up a good point when you say it like that because then it doesn't just make women feel inferior just exactly makeup <hes> genetic makeup even the physicality of it evolution <hes> in sports it makes for an interesting conversation <hes> it's tough. It's tough being a woman and having to speak so much about equality and an empowerment to then feel like you're bringing in something that is a handicap for us so right things a little difficult to yeah. It's an interesting covers. It's like a very nuanced conversation rigs. If you like at least the way I see it. It's not like it's not a handicap just like well. If you took the average height heights of males and the average height the females dude taller right period yeah so what so proportionately let's reduce the height of the hoop to that proportion right now. It's like exactly the way it should be. That's how I would think about it. That's a good point. The reason that I like that idea is because you know I think that the W._n._B._A. has struggled to get that sort of broad like mainstream attention <hes> and they play great basketball right and so it's not due to a lack of skill and I think that the N._B._A.. They benefit from things like Vince Carter Duncan on sub dudes face right and like he's he's over forty now. Do you still doing that. He's doing day thing but like the dunking aspect of basketball I think is just so oh visually stimulating for audiences that the more you can encourage that <hes> the better probably I agree definitely agree in. I think I mean it's going to continue to be a conversation so the powers that be may eventually do that. <hes> it just makes it difficult. I feel like in the college arena in high school. <hes> you know <hes> because most hoops you're not really lowering them so how how would that work out and transforming basically every jim in the country. Maybe a little bit more of an undertaking so I didn't even think about that actually logistically straight a nightmare. Oh we got a girl's game then guys game no no more back to backs because we you know what high school is going to be able to staple center. They can turn it into ice in an hour. Yeah just the hooper. Everybody more dunks more nuts on topline pipeline. That's it yeah I think either raise it or you lower. You either raise it because because the reason you would raise next topic we raise it for everybody so no one can dunk. Oh Yeah then no one watches it kill basketball basketball yeah. What if you took away when I was in eighth grade so I've been so an eighth grade I was already like six one six two it just went and I grew an inch or two inches after that so I was always playing center her when I was younger in <hes> back in eighth grade? I didn't know so when you're doing the warm ups you're not allowed to dunk right right well. I just learned how to dunk in eighth grade and so I was so jazzed to show off the dunk that and so I'm in the warm ups and I'm going to boom and I did a slam it just Graham snap it. Did you know now now not at all but I hit that room and dunked it and I was Jose and it also Tegel Phil. What a way to start the game? Oh my God I wrote a bears like in my mind I was like I'm GonNa go in their dog in the warm in the ASS Hogan a technical Michael Foul before so Meighan I would love to see that that would have been hilarious good. No no sit down. I can't let's to funny yeah. You still play not really right. <hes> not not so much anymore. Yeah I would definitely play a game a pickup right now. <hes> I do enjoy playing <hes> hopefully without snapping my ankles or A._C._l.. Or something like no no. Do you think A._C._L.'s are the number one injury in basketball <hes> definitely for I would say in Women's sports in general <hes> for sure it is <hes> because we're mostly quad dominant. I've learned <hes> but for basketball in for for both men and women I think it probably is that are that her ankle injury and now you're seeing a lot more killy injuries which is interesting it has to do with again the high flying the type of shoes that people are wearing all of that plays a role in it but or the regulations with the shoes well. It's interesting I just I just started to look more into it. Just because they've there was a color regulation before that had to match you know the the Jersey Color <hes> had to be predominantly a certain color and and it's it's evolved over time Michael Jordan on a paved the way for that and he's the one with with I think it was the Air Jordan one that they brought out like this red and black shoe that just kind of set everybody on fire. And from there now the color regulation has been removed so anybody could wear any color at any time on the court so it's also interesting because A._p.. L. is a brand that they they put in their technology that I guess it could help with with jumping or you can help you get more airtime with some of the technology. They put in their shoe and they were banned from the N._B._A.. So no one can wear a PL. She's while play mask while yes the greatest piece of working yeah absolutely absolutely everywhere yeah pretty much. Yeah won't even let Coby Bryan wear their shit yeah exactly and that's that's what it did for Jordan to at that time when they brought on <hes> Jordan Brand Nike when they brought Jordan on and they made that shoe because then they just basically said banned by the N._B._A.. And then everybody and their mom wanted to to have a pair of because even skaters were wearing them. Everyone was everyone was wearing them. There's a documentary documenting that just got put out talking about it and it's on Hulu to pretty cool so interesting documentary called <hes> I I just just escaped pros search what drove today and what is it. I think it's man I got. I think of it because it's a really a I don't know why it just escaped me because I just think of Jordan right but <hes> a really amazing female producer. Put it together too so let's check out my favorite basketball player. Growing up was Dennis Rodman really yeah yeah hardcore <hes> yeah I mean he was amazing. If you really think about it he really owned his role as being the best rebounder ever and he just sacrifices body sacrificed everything for his team but he could shoot too. He could play everything thanks Oh. He's also just a crazy motherfucker. That's already know that's why you like broke the mold. He's getting crazy. Lip piercings Nag dresses in public being motorcycles. There's been bad ass yeah of course of course what what other sports do you find fascinating besides basketball. Do you watch any anything else. I Love Sports so I watch tennis too because again I grew up playing plane it. I've now recently started watching M._M._a.. And U._F._C. actually because one of my best friends and one of our business partners he compete what he doesn't compete but he trains in the off season because he plays in the N._F._l.. But an offseason he trains and so he's always always watching the fights and at first I couldn't even stomach like seeing the blood and seeing them knock each other out but now I've kind of gotten to like it <hes> just because you see all the preparation that goes into it and you could appreciate more of all the work and I mean people like yourself <hes> that I'm now around and that appreciate the sport as well so am amazed something that I've taken to <hes> baseball when I'm at a game I don't I can't Really Watch T._v.. Ads Tougher me and I and I appreciate all sports though so yeah I got an idea for baseball. This is on top of my list of bad ideas. Let's get to watch basketball hoop. That's a whole `nother show. I think that you should implement so you know in hockey they have the enforcer on the bridge comes out and beats the raft still let you fight someone else in the middle of the ice for no reason but you do it so I think since baseball is the SA- so barring you just have and there's fights in baseball a lot right the benches clear whatever like fuck all that we don't need benches cleared and like all sorts of weirdness like if the pitcher or the batter WanNa beat the dude up same thing umpire goes in there and then they get like fifteen seconds to scrap oh my goodness. Are you kidding me now. Let's start fighting yeah. I'M GONNA be way more exciting. I guess I I mean instead of the seventh inning stretch that she has the right. Whoever has the beef can just go in there and squash it? I think it would be better than trying to throw the ball at each at when sometimes on the pitcher gets pissed and then they throw it to like intentionally make a ball one hit them. There's a lot of injuries that happen like that. You've been smacked with a baseball now. Oh man you have oh yeah I used to play baseball of course then I was always a bigger kid so I'd be able to kind of fake my age and Empire Baseball for kids who are my age or older than me what you're not supposed to do obviously when I was making like thirty bucks a game which for me back in the day was like Kim game and so the thing is like if somebody's swings bat and they hit the ball and the ball goes backwards albums it actually increases in its speed than just with the pitch and I remember I got smacked in the shoulder by one and this baseball sized chunk of skin was gone wild filed baseball's dangerous yeah for sure you're throwing and then you want to add fights to it yeah yeah so with Emma. May actually I think it's an interesting thing because with women's sports and in before enemy was only a male sport right <hes> and it was also illegal in large parts the country <hes> and and so we started there and even Dana why it was saying I'll never have females compete in the U._F._C. Right <hes> and it was primarily because of publicity like P._R.. Like you know how how wells they're gonNA look like some girl to get knocked out. You know public ready for it ah but that's changed so much so that like m._m._a.. Watching a female anime fight is super exciting to watch and it's also because of their physical attributes so typically their upper body strength is not as strong so so you don't get as many like really quick knockouts get way more technical striking so like really really technique oriented striking which is very at least for me really fun to watch and then also the flexibility is a whole different level. Hi That's when it goes to the ground where normally guy gets stuck inside control or whatever and can't get out girls can like put their leg behind their head in Verdoux all this really crazy flexible Jujitsu that makes it like super exciting to watch. I think it's one of Oh sports where like it took a whole. One eighty was like oh girls aren't allowed and now at some of the most exciting things to why all sports yeah that's amazing. I've seen that as well too and just like honing in on their craft and being able to get out out of all those moves as you said it's exciting for sure yeah I would never do it but definitely more power to them. It's it's exciting to watch. We're getting punched in the face isn't the best long-term strategy for your mental health thing now <hes> I just never been a fighter either so that wouldn't do well for me. Even with my younger brother that growing up you piss me off in to get so upset and I'd just be afraid to even push him just because I was afraid that he would get hurt all all let's see I know exactly I would say that about my brother but then he would listen to this and be like you are a liar yeah my brother and I had a few spats he's of course but we've had our our fair share of spats to yes normal and if I now so now's not fair kids. You're a little more equal yeah so you grew up in the city of of Los Angeles right yes I did so. How has that been your one of the have captured one of the rare seriously? I feel that way. I mean everybody including myself total transplant how how was it growing up in L._A.. For a lot of people who listeners probably know L._A.'s like this. Oh it's Hollywood and it's you know all this glitz and Glam and movies and whatever but like how how was that whole thing growing up for you well it was great. I mean I couldn't imagine growing up anywhere else and I'm definitely an Angelino for life and love being in California. Love my city love L._A.. So I'm one of those people <hes> that definitely does not want to leave obviously the travel but never to live anywhere else <hes> but I I didn't realize that some of the stigmas and how you said Oh Hollywood and the entertainment culture everyone is pretty much like one degree of separation away from the industry and and I didn't really think of that as a bad thing. I still don't think it's a bad thing but I didn't realize that it actually is very true. You Know My dad's an academy member. He's been involved in the motion picture industry for over twenty years and I just grew up with that like like I would go to Hollywood screens. I would you know know people in the Industry Friends of mine at school. Their parents were actors or this or that <hes> and I it just seemed normal. It didn't seem like something of in a movie or on a T._v.. Show and order that Hollywood life or whatever so it's definitely part of me and part of growing up here and I feel like anyone else that's from L._A.. They have some kind of tie to the industry as well. Just because it's our backyard especially I grew up the valley studio city very close to Hollywood so and went to school down the street from Hollywood so I'm very much part of that Hollywood scene and <hes> I love the beach too so definitely you know want to consider myself a beach bomb but all all those things that people try and make L._A.. People seem like I guess I am but not in a bad way too and I find that people that are all natives that still live here say similar thing they love the city and then they'd Never WanNa leave. It's like it's it's a relatively common thing actually and it is because I think there's a lot of negative perceptions of L._A.. For people that have never been here <hes> but it's like a really beautiful and crazy place yeah and there's so much to do people don't realize either because I just talked a lot about Hollywood and being connected to Hollywood but I have friends that have visited from even you know other parts of the world and their travel advisor says oh just spend a day in L. A.. I'm like a day in L._A.. L._A.. You need way more time than that. You travel yeah exactly exactly like our two days and spend more time in San Francisco and more time in Wherever Vegas and I'm just like there's so much to do you know l.. A. County is goes all the way down to Orange County and goes all the way north the magic mountain you know so there's so much to see so much to do in so many different pockets and areas that are they're all very different. You know so. That's the one thing I love you. Get the mountain to get the beach you get the city all in the one place ace yeah. I feel like culturally here too you have I think it's a generational thing as well but a lot of people are into health and fitness and wellness and and all of that and you have you know your your creation uses and you got your to me and your Barnabas in your so you're that's and then just like sort of this hotbed for new health and fitness. What is your fitness routine like these days well? I mean it. I'm trying to amp it up <hes> definitely obviously still with the hustle and bustle of work and being in L._A.. Having to spend so much time in your car drywall for you on your cycle but drive everywhere and the time that that takes it it eats into your calendar eats into your day but I've been making more time for myself. I definitely when I wake up I meditate that's key for me just to kind of clean clear my mind mind and get ready for the day and I consider that part of overall health and fitness. It's not just about jumping on a biker going for a run really your mind as well and taking care of your mind so start with that and then I usually get depends on the day but I'll either work out in the morning three days a week or the rest of the time I work out in the evening and I'll do like a high intensive workout a little bit of mixture of weights a little bit of Cardio. I'm usually joined with friends because it just makes it easier makes it fun being able to do to keep each other accountable but <hes> and then try and throw in some basketball there every now and then so every every so often go and shoot some hoops even if it's just by myself or do a pickup session so that's really kind of more I mean I'm usually in the gym. I don't really like to run on the road so much. I really don't like running either so yeah so if I could avoid it by any means and that's what I'm going for so I feel like it's almost anything that I can do feet away and to do some cardio and not exactly when I see in the gym doing their M._M._a.. I feel like that's how I am. When I'm on the basketball courts like okay I need cardio but I'm not GonNa do it just on the elliptical running so yeah yeah definitely yeah so? What are you doing like weight? Training is it primarily cardiovascular sort of cross training or a little mixture of of an also <hes> actually just started working out with the trainers as well just to help me kind of fine tune. You know some workouts so that I don't get stagnant. Don't get bored and I'm able to work on some body correction to really work on my movement and get you know as I am getting older. You know need to focus on other things more stretching you know more flexibility rather than just get up and go and sow combination of just doing mostly weights then a lot of different you know bodyweight movement too so you know those Burke's and pushups t._R._X.. Machine so so using all of that and also getting out and getting on the stairs so went to back to school back to U._C._l._a. and was on the track Dune Attrac- workout and going up and down the stadiums so just really mixing it up you know for me. I can't just do the. Same thing all the time so and I'm open to all the different Assam so many different like thoughts and ideas on fitness right now and I feel like I want to try them all so yeah I think with fitness too it's like it's really easy easy to just get unmotivated and board so if you're not making it up in some way or learning something new it's just so easy to fall off track and everyone has a different idea in practice and style from you know to you have have to really focus on just the mechanics to cross it is all about just like power and speed and doing doing this as big and fast as strong as you can and just everything in between and I'm open to try and it all. I think it's good good for you just to have a healthy body movement. That's important. I think I've learned a lot just in overall health and happiness that if you're moving your body you're you're usually a lot happier and so however that looks also actually did focus on the inside as well. L. And I've done a a sugar detox for the past month yes and no sugar no carbs Kito. Yeah pretty much gone yeah so only food I can have bananas and green apples so I've been loving banana AH snack since I'm a huge my weaknesses chips. That's my my vice so I've been able to get that craving with through banana but also yeah but it's been tough no wine. You know a lot of things things were cut out but it's important you know you have to mix again. Mix it up. That's that's the key yeah out sugar almost entirely <hes> a few years back and I was like super strict hardcore ketosis for two years <hes> like ridiculous I would have like a bottle of olive oil in my pocket to go out to eat like like like lunacy not do it in secret little thing olive oil in my pocket and just kind of sneak it on. I didn't want anybody to find me out. You know like what is this guy doing. They can just give it to you at the restaurant. All seems like a staple yeah for the most part for the most part yeah but if you go on like you know some some like what do you do when you go to in and out yeah sure dipping your burger and olive oil yeah no I mean with this exactly got just yesterday. I had you know was on the go got a chick-fil-a grilled chicken sandwich lettuce wrap and they're like. Do you want sauce because obviously they're known for their sauce. I'm like no no sauce there like I was like there's no sauce on the Sandwich Sandwich right now but you want sauce on the side. I was like no those see if you like sort of the mindfulness wellness fitness all those sort sort of interact with each other right there's been diagram where the offer of meat and even even with fitness and working out at least for me if I'm not moving my physical body. My brain does not work well yeah like he just. Doesn't you know it's it's easier for me to get sad is easier for me to get mad. I it's easier to just like feel less energy in general and I feel like you know people that don't have sort of an active workout routine. They don't really realize realize that that's affecting the brain daily basis conjure percents. That's about all those things that you mentioned that can say any better. It's really important in the meditation. Thing is interestingly or two. I started meditating super super longtime. He was probably two thousand in I want us <hes> and it was purely because I was I was like an a terrible spot in life and like living in the hood and all this shit and like just you know bad times and so I would meditate as sort of an escape is a reset as mental reset to sort of get back into the mode of of being able to to move forward and and and and have motivation and I think that meditation now has sort of this steam behind it finally and you have different apps and things do you meditate <hes> just by yourself or using an APP. Are you doing a guided meditation or how do you approach that yeah. I I do myself actually so I've tried to use some of the guided meditations every now and then <hes> I've also used is an APP ground myself and get focused but generally I'm able to do all my own. You know so yeah yeah yeah. I'm able to wake up really able to focus and put my intent to whatever I need at that time and also just to clear the space in my mind because you know you take all the things that you said and even from your own journey people don't realize even the most positive people even the strongest people they still have all this stuff going on between those xeres you know there's still a lot happening in that head and and how do you internalize it and it's sometimes ends up being toxic the way you're able to be strong and just really you're just pushing it down and so really focusing on how to kind of release that and sometimes it releases just to clear it out of your mind in meditation for me has helped a lot with that yeah so you said something that was really interesting there. You said you know sometimes being strong is pushing it down whereas when you're meditating you're almost pushing it out right exactly and you know maybe it's you have to push it down sometimes but then have that exhaust that that meditation exhaust push it out is is so important yeah absolutely it's an interesting concept yeah even and I personally have you've been on my own journey through that you know and starting a business in I've had some some personal things happen to me. As far as relationship aspects <hes> just life you know it weighs on you and I usually try and you know when when I get bogged down by it and like you said get a little bit more mad or sad than I realized that's what I need to go towards meditating more even more than once a day just because you have to kind of clear yourself of what's happening in focus on the now in the present and even on where you want it to be in the future not where you think or the worry or the stress is taking you to so. It's one of those things where I feel like you know everybody. Everybody has a struggle somewhere in their lives and it's something where you know oftentimes you. You don't know about you don't see because it is invisible right right. Struggle is invisible right and like you said you never know what's happening between those two years and <hes> having sort of a personal protocol to deal with those times I think is so important and something that I spend a lot of time thinking about into changes over time right like like you were saying oh well. I'm actually I detect that my mentality is even lower than it normally is instead of doing my maintenance one time a day meditation now. I'M GONNA do it two three four times a day. Whatever it is gopher a run and then you know whatever that that protocol is? I think it's a really interesting. It's really interesting concept yeah I. I'm a firm believer especially having gone through some some things that I really had to focus on that and really <hes> pay more attention to it rather than just taking it for granted and just moving on or moving forward or pushing it down then I think it's something that actually needs to be taught. You know people need to be. There's a conversation around mental health at it's Kinda released releasing the stigma and it's bringing it more into mainstream and people make people more aware of no there's still people on both sides of the spectrum on how they they think of it or they believe in it but there just needs to be more dialogue you know all of us are going through something in that's life that that is what it is. You're not you know unless you're facing something then. How do you know that you really alive and <hes> but how do you go through it and like what happens next? And how do you process it. Or How do you respond to it. That's the part that that that needs to be more of the focus right. I mean everybody is defined by their reaction to any situation right and you know whether that's you know some something happens in your relationships on happens with your job or your business or your you break your leg amputated. You know something horrible happened. Your loved one dies. You become paralyzed because there's an infinite amount of terrible things that can happen to you. Besides death or you're still alive and you have to react to it exactly yeah I know Oh you were talking a lot about <hes> sort of mental health and <hes> you know sort of bringing that more into into the forefront even with to me and everything else. Why do you think that <hes> just now? It's starting to become something that is being a little bit less stigmatized advertise being stigmatized and people are sort of speaking out about it a little more and just our general understanding of it is sort of a societal thing. Why and how do you think that happens yeah I think in my opinion to societal thing as well as you know we take a lot from from mainstream from pop culture from entertainment from those heroes as idols that we look to and you're seeing more and more people that appear to have everything going for them taking their lives and nuts and not just from you know in the past had just been partying and drug overdose because of being reckless? It's it's really intentional and <hes> that raises the question as to why is this happening and if it it also a racist kind of everyone sees them as being great great so they don't think of it as being a bad thing. It's not just like the old fashioned psycho-ward type type mentality or Looney bin as you know. All those things used to be called. It's more like wow something's really going on and what is it and I think also well unfortunately just you know some political climate has has a part of it as well as you know just like terrorism in general <hes> without getting too deep into to sat on the subject but you know there's a lot more fears that we have have now than than there were before and that brings a lot of tension anxiety stress that that people weren't normally used to and being able to talk about those things. It's it's helpful yeah. I think so too and you know it's against against like a lot of people live in sort of this quiet despair you know and it's really easy to be a dark spot and think that you're the only one in rave right when you think you're the only one in the cave then you're more apt to do something thing bad whereas if you already know like oh you're trapped in a cave but you're also trapped in the cave with millions of other people and also there's a way out of there and you know I I know everyone has their own opinion in their own feeling for it but I I honestly think like faith however that looks to you you know I'm I'm in touch with my religion and I you know I believe in God and having your faith I think is a big part of it as well and unfortunately the way again things are and where or different religions are you're seeing more corruption or people are straying away because of polar extremes of like coltish behavior so people are shying away from a not talking about religion in a way that is helpful for people. You know it's more just yeah I don't believe in it or you know and they lose touch with that faith and I think that's a big piece as well. Yeah I think that faith in <hes> you know I consider myself agnostic or atheist. I'm a non believer but I do believe I believe that having faith in something is extremely important and whether that something is Jesus or Mohammed or Ya highway or Sheva or Vishnu or Odin or whatever it is or yourself <hes> true true is the most important thing that you have to have faith in something. Even if you you know yeah well you know. I don't believe I was in Catholic school on a believe the shit whatever well then have faith in yourself have faith in your future self. Maybe it is right because as soon as you lose sight of that then it becomes very problematic like you're saying I think you do have to have sort of that ability to put something at a higher level. Even if it's your own future self that you don't know your future self that's true right like Mad Alexander Present and who you were ten years ago is a different person correct. Yeah we'll be tenured or now totally different person to absolutely yeah. That's that is an interesting component of it and I think especially in big cities. At least I grew up in a very small town. <hes> people are more prone to just kind of not have a sense of community not have a sense of family or faith or anything really because people are desensitized a human beings. If <hes> you might my clutch cable on my motorcycle broke awhile back right on the freeway on the on the ten and so I'm off on the side of the road you know how many people stopped nine zero zero and if you do that same in western Nebraska annoyed because every single person would stop trying to help you do something like taking care of door three minutes later yeah so that's a good point everyone's living in their own silos here and and head down power through you know head down head down power through an important skill to have but also it's like you gotTa know if you're pressing US something down the needs to be exhausted. Your body like you were saying with meditation yeah absolutely yeah that's fascinating with termer too and I think diet is oftentimes sort of moved aside from from mental health and like we're talking about running or working out or playing basketball. Whatever <hes> positively contributing to a positive mental attitude the same can be said for Diet? Absolutely I think all the things that we've talked about contribute to that. It's part of your life right. That's part of how you need your mind mind. You need your body. You have to feel something within you that faith that future <hes> that that little guiding light and so having come from Diet what we consume we need food in our in order to fuel our bodies to live. so all of those things come together and and yeah back when you brought it back to turmeric that's that's actually one of those powerful foods that abel is able to touch on all of those aspects it's able to improve your diet is able to help with healing of your body <hes> it's also great for in your mind you know it's really strong <hes> fire fires cognitive function so it really helps with your brain and helps heal the brain in those parts of the world that we talked about were most mostly they're eating it in their diet that you don't find alzheimer's i disease you don't find a lot of mental illness and that's contributed to the powerful route that it is so incorporating these things into your diet helps as well with the mental clarity it helps with your your overall peak performance that helps you find that purpose us it's really that mind body soul connection so interesting and when you're starting any businesses so fucking hard right it's like it's it's all on you right you know what you succeed son you fail the sun zahn you know other option and so when when things are stressful which almost always are in in the startup world what are your ways of dealing with with with that sort of stress or getting over that hurdle win you know something happens a supplier can't get the product for a big or the came up or a an employee or some something happens like what do you do to sort of make sure that you don't fall into the trap of of going down the hill of negativity i mean we hit on through this conversation we've hit on everything definitely working out is key i've noticed when i don't work out because i get bogged down in those stressful moments then they compound it becomes worse so obviously find that release and moving my body and working out it's just naturally releases endorphins and just an amazing experience to be able to okay we can push through this like i'm alive i'm healthy we can make this happen and then having having a good support group like i'm really really fortunate to have amazing people in my life you know just from the people that i see i'm constantly meeting that i'm inspired by from friends that i've had for years <hes> and having them i'll just talking to someone yesterday that you know i personally they don't necessarily believe in therapy as something for me <hes> you know if it helps other people than it's great because they learned how to express themselves or have someone to talk to but my friends have always been my therapist you know being able to have really solid people that i can trust i that if i'm going through something that could bring it up to them and they can kind of help me see a different way of it or just you know bring some insight into their own personal life that that's very helpful to me so having a good support system and having people around you even outside side of the work environment outside of your actual start up your business your partners your advisers having people outside of that for me has been very helpful right yeah and what is like one of the more difficult sort of business situations situations you've come across one of those things where like oh i didn't see that hurdle coming in and seeing that boulder rolling down the hill and i had to jump out of the way what are one of those things that you've seen i mean we've there's always something like like you said and i think the biggest hurdle is wanting and seen yourself moving faster than what all the pieces are able to let you do so you know you have the vision you even have created the the demand <hes> i'm you've set things up but then now you know the distributor needs to come through and now okay you need a little bit more money for that marketing so you need to get that that that nother partner that investment in there or just things need need to catch up or suppliers need to catch up the whole okay contact them and then wait one week 'til they respond and then context someone else and then still be moving forward i think the time line in the timeframe of where you know as being a founder and having the vision where here we see the company going and having everyone else kinda jump on board with our timeframe vin then challenging facets patients exactly right it's it's the speed execute which is so vitally important to like do like getting the stuff but then also having the patients to not freak out when it takes twelve weeks for your packaging bullshit like but whole foods wants it right now what do you mean twelve weeks to ver a bottle title cap one hundred percent that's been the victim and the kind of putting all the pieces together at one time like especially right now where we are i feel like a little bit of a of of i don't know how the almost circus wrangler for a great mastermind or whatever nicer way you could say it but exactly exactly trying to put everything in play at the same time so have everything all the dominos fall <hes> that's been pretty challenging i'll be very very very happy and i'm going to be proud of myself and when it happens but in the process it's tough oh yeah yeah it is a process to and it's like you know all those things that you just don't know to plan for like it's really easy to knock over a bunch of dominoes that are perfectly aligned per govind and meanwhile there's one domino's out the side and you and then can matter wrestling just never fall i think there's boxing is coming out to my sound effects game don't realize that i'd do sometimes it's on though right lining up all of the pieces ceases to then have them fallen perfect secession is like it's it's a beast to do and i think a lot of people they aspire to start something and do it and all of that and they may have the idea but eh the devils in the execution yeah and that can derail a lot of stuff exactly and what she said to earlier about patients you know i think you know i was talking to another startup founder the other day and we're just saying how you know you hear about before someone started something and then you usually hear about when they're like this wildly successful person and that whole especially zero to three years in that whole startup grind star fatigue people don't hear about that so that's why you see people full afraid of starting things or you don't really know how to support someone or what they're going through because we don't we don't share that are deep secrets you know talk about it because it's very much of this up and down rollercoaster sir is a good point actually you do see sort of this thing where you know people only talk about sort of their path and journey after they've come to some sort of opulent success and in that time between that zero two three years whatever ah that small timeframe is in any given business is often talked about only in retrospect right not not during the time than happening yeah i think personally when when i was asked advice i think because one year you're so you're so driven that you don't want to necessarily you're thinking about the things that go wrong of course you have to in order to prepare but you don't want to put that out there and you don't want people to really know what's happening because you yourself are believing and seeing where where you're going to be and so in my opinion i think that's why it's not talked about as much you're right you have to have i mean you have to have absolute just unrelenting faith in yourself and your ability to execute on what you're doing and then simultaneously you want to signal to the market be that investors or whoever it is that you are gonna crush it and or are crushing it current and and you know to show any you know any any defects in the armor makes it a lot easier for arrows to slide in and slam you in the torso so there is sort of like outside pressures that caused that to happen yeah absolutely but i'm sure you would agree that when i do give any advice or jeevan just even for me in the much earlier stages than i appreciate all the talks that you do and how you share a little bit more of that story and kind of open that up to people but still i would always say you just start with with anybody who'd be like just start just go for it just take that leap of faith just you know know that it's going to be difficult but don't stop you know when everyone brings up to me about how you know or if there if there are certain naysayers is that are like oh it's a crowded market or you know how are you going to succeed or you know all the big players are the ones that are dominating and you'll you know you need massive amounts of money to get there et cetera et cetera all you know the list goes on with what naysayers haters say but the main anything that i tell them is the reason why people stop and the reason why most businesses fail after one or two years is because they don't have the patience to go through the bad times or the tough times or the obstacles or the execution they just don't want to do it they want want overnight success and overnight success comes after ten years you know are shorter but i'm saying like you know overnight success is not overnight so exactly right you know it's like yeah well if you listen to everybody else she just wouldn't do eighth exactly and you know it's like look you may you may start you may want to be an entrepreneur and then you you start and then you try it and it turns out you suck and that's okay too <hes> but also it's like you know if michael jordan never picked up a basketball all are kind of gregor never put boxing gloves on and started kicking a bag like they would never know that they would be great at those sports and in the same could be said for people you don't know until you just to do it and then see what happens and you know if there are the naysayers whatever and like oh well you know but you know the crowded market also if you're saying it's like yeah but you know what a faulk yourself don't care to say oh oh oh you're going to need twenty million dollars yeah i'll figure it out exactly oh it's a crowded market sweet yeah we'll figure it out yeah oh you know there's there's already done a player awesome yeah good it's somebody to take down exactly exactly it's like it's it's you have to be able to take those seemingly negative factors and be able to turn them into something that motivates you to put it put that chip on your shoulder <hes> and just keep going forward one hundred percent hundred percent that's why it's exciting that you'd like yourself is like sharing that story in talking about that more because it's not everyone thinks that way it's not it's not natural for a lot of people so it's true it's true and you know it's like you're gonna have doubters you anything that you do and you know just walking out the house with what your wearing you'll have doubters like right painting under style so it doesn't matter how you cut your hair like that's the world we live in so dumb haircut and i know that <hes> probably happens to me all the time no one really says she didn't publicly probably wisely but <hes> that's probably what i was saying to know things your character it is true <hes> there's there's a lot of people that dadge it every stage of no matter what you're doing and i'll tell you what even this podcast even by virtue of starting a podcast which which i love to do this i think it's just fun for me to chat with people like you and talk about interesting thing stuff there will be people hug guaranteed that are gonna hate it they won't even listen to a second probably the entire thing but the hague on it just because that's how people are yeah that's true that means you're doing something right uh-huh i see it on the right i don't know who's gonna hate on your show like 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but you know why don't you plug a couple of things to me beverages where can you get them how can you buy them they're one of the most delicious drinks actually the most delicious drink i mean i it it just like it's not even a question is but yeah tell people where they can find him i'm just gonna point everyone to our website into social media because that's that's the best way to connect with us and really hear from us directly as a brand so it's <hes> drink to me dot com and it's t. m. e. <hes> to me waters the brand and you can also find us on all social media instagram is is a way to go where you can shop on there as well and <hes> come into a store near you whole foods is one of our key accounts accounts as well as on amazon so you'll start to see more and more and <hes> beret now connect with us on our website for sure awesome what is your instagram handle mine is e and my first name shayna so s. h. a. i n.

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Movie: 12 Monkeys (1995)

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Movie: 12 Monkeys (1995)

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Bill very honored that done to be here to stay. Apologize for my webcam. Because i'm coming to you for the year. Nineteen ninety nine for rope. Or i vented back retired about a about time travel. This was perfectly. that's why l. Isola jury because i'm from the past i. Miss is not for nine hundred ninety ninety two a true eighty to ninety five. I in the targets of the movie much us. I'm from the future of eighty nine but bag as governed from the past yes awesome. I'm so glad in. I don't know if you guys have not listened to cinema recall. You should listen to really cool. Podcast about movie reviews and go until The audience again for those. Who missed our last episode here. What is your podcast about. And what you have currently going on all the rest were already so odd cinema recall. We are Move your podcast and retired about. Their favorite moments and scenes happened in movies. Li would be doing theme months here. And we're changing our format a little bit now. For the months of april may and june. We are covering one movie a month. So the april me. Guess mary mitchell from the whatever which is podcast. We talked about religion and then for the month of may. We're going to be brenna jason. From the whatever was of podcast. Along with ryan. Louise rodriguez of the justice. Podcast to target ball drive. And i believe you edgy. Crow between us for possible blade runner twenty nine in june two boats that feature a very excited. Because you guys are scholars experts in the realm of sci-fi. And so that people kinda cool and i would love free much to dive into a month long series into a twenty nine. 'cause as podcast played better than me is a masterpiece but played with a twenty. Nine is off their two awesome. We are really excited to be in show. I mean that as a matter of fact that episode we recorded on blade runner on our podcast as one of the top downloads so episodes so we have so we now return. That movie is total. Classic and twenty forty nine is up there. So you guys do you guys do. Because weds the movie as well as the and just trying to cover the whole gamut of tikal yeah thank you thank you so this time and you. You probably aren't noticing if you're watching the video that is just me. If you're listening giancarlo couldn't be here time. I also like apologize that we have in released episodes for two weeks in a row and there was a family emergency. And that's why we couldn't. But i like to think they're going forward. I won't have episodes again. And i appreciate you sticking with us while we have the difficult time but that being said this movie twelve monkeys. I don't know if you have the same thought that i had when i was watching this movie. But it's you know with the corona era. If i may say this this movie is a little scary. Yes dealing with the playland. Basic plot of the movie is that disease happens that forces all population to live. Underground and bruce willis plays this researchers who goes up into the land. And he's got this this very much as plaza suits made sure that there's like no code in there and in the era of kobe. Yeah we says this about ninety five you know people were not that concerned about diseases that have been but now we have more limits there so ways going up to the surface and there's no one around except for some animals that kind of feels like in the last year's. Oh yeah those we in the early ninety s to late ninety two day three feels very much like it could happen. I kind of feel that it has because at the time i mean most people is not something that it was in most people's mind i'm however the experts you know the pandemic preparation has has always been top line and how government could react to something like pandemic and as a reason why we have other pandemic movies out there but it makes you wonder if this is something like i know. I came from a short film but you always wonder if they decided to do it. I say you know like a warning to everybody that we need to take action. Kinda like i don't know if you heard our episode catholica how we say the movie. It was actually a was it. So the scientists scientific magazine. I think it was came out and said that this movie was the reason why we're not gonna have that future in laws that came on to prevent that future and got from becoming reality so wanted if movies like this one because there are many out there where you know a way of them saying okay. You know we need to know. Isn't it back our heads right now. But should we take a more direct action. You know implant and have a solid planned. Yeah i feel into that if a platelet this actually happened we will have things. Shut down really fast and pretty quickly. We would never did to the point where we actually have. We live underground. They will be stuff done then to really be sure they would isolate the problem and make sure that everything's coin teen cleaned up But for the sake of the movie is just played that just win right away could easily build them late. Zombie played or things like that was interesting too about the originals or feature. Alleged by chris. Marker is a fact that it doesn't really go into too much about the pledge the story is basically says there's a played and everyone lives underground Twelve monkeys tries to find more about where the played came from. The original shortage is just guy who scientists said back in time to the past and he keeps me this girl and he's time it goes down the past Him as girl stirred fall in love a little bit more and more here there but he keeps recurring nightmare. Abc's this guy diet airport when he's a little boy and that's kind of the only major mentions that allegedly has to twelve monkeys. Is that dream that cole has when he's a little boy. Seen a man get murdered a collision also him passed since women who i think. He's crazy but not so much. The were their personalities twitched. That's more relevant in the screenplay patrol is alleged date alleged tease interested to because it's just twenty minutes of just photographs photographs and narration I believe it's french us forty two. There's french dialogue but there's no subtitles is just. It's actually english dialogue. A listener region with free speech in the background and there's only one moment where visually real video is just so subtle. You never really don't say it's just a woman's myspace. And then suddenly she blinks and smiles. And it's just like this weird affect because it's all just like these still images as twenty minutes. Long is is good. I definitely see. How raiders david peoples and peoples doubt. The story foaling. And i thought they did a wonderful job. You may know david people's brutal for the movie bladerunner. Because he did the relates that hampshire fancher did it. Attempted fan of blade. Runner was radar. That the david peoples brought in to do the rewrite so people's is really good at adopting the screenplays lease so yeah it it's really cool and also later. Was it in two thousand. i can't remember. They came out with the tv. Show dictation to the movie. I you know i'm going to have to. I'm gonna come out and say not watched that it didn't really appealed but one thing that i noticed that you know how you were talking about the differences between the short film and the actual film in how they concentrated in different aspect on the tv. Show i it should be. They have a lot more time to explore so you get to see quad. Most people would ask how was the pandemic handled and you get a wider view or the actual pandemic which you would. We don't get to solve at all in the movie. Okay i mean we saw in the movie but that will be the only problem i have with any type of late outage in the movie is that is basically the same movie just drawn out and so things. I don't really need to see drawn out. I don't really need to see how the play cabin Vold it could just be a bad radioactive cloud or a missile dot launched and radiation or down. Made everyone better okay. I got a personal story. There s live underground and the developed time travel as a briefly. The scientists know that a researcher. He disinformation and he just hired to watch no. He doesn't get hired recently. voters controllers. Like i did not volunteer. They sort of badge research. I say the time travel equipments steph. The time travel even the office. Will the scientists were distill room. And bruce was cher that rises up and that deal ball. We're all the cool. It is a into all at that time. Childhood whitman's and stuff. their rooms. Thousand thousand outlaid scrapyards in junkyard surround the e kinda very steam punk. Look news very interesting because he helps you paint some sort of contrast between the future and how germs had forged this world versus. What when he was to the pass and the old the different. The difference is very minimal. You can kind of see that it. To the extreme basically. Yeah i basically terry gilliam as producer designer. They were just designing sets based prostate followed. And they found that people have their crew committed to this work was in there and also the portion that bruce was his character goes into this light. Gum tuba zach. And yes we dated in embryonic sach be reborn way over of going to different environments there which i want to be really kind of a cool thing is really interesting. You mentioned that because there is a scene in particular when he is in a chair and he's drawing some blood I guess for for the scientist and culture. And i don't know if you noticed but there is a silhouette of a hamster on the wheel. Yes so it it kinda like the couple of things that i can say about. That scene is one of the things that i can says it gets you into a you know in the back of your mind gets you into a frame that this is kind of like the wheeled scenario where everybody just goes around and at mindlessly but in the end the reality to that scene i think it took an hour to record long because they hamster will nap move so they were trying to get the right scene you know with the hamster is moving so they have to retake until he moved and that shows up. I don't know if you want to call the dedication of the director to make sure he gets the right. Shot over produces being really upset. That was more focused on. The hamster was on the actor at the time of year. Because jerry jones has had. We're history especially came to studios and whatnot now. He'd be previously for universal the movie brazil universal didn't lake his original cuts. They wanted to edit it and change the dumbest. Yeah turgeau imagine how post added and newspaper and with one big. The los angeles films chris. Society than universal said abol cable. Release your cut of the movie and we end up winning big some meal critical. Accolades made burn munchausen which failed miserably boss office. And they another business with the fisher king star robin williams and jeff bridges. So he's able to be back there again so twelve. Monkeys is essentially a studio or fill and it was didn't really hard to green light. That movie until bruce willis one movie and him along with brad pitt. Inbound stole brad. Pitt's by believe still hot off of the lease and also still oliva. A river runs through it. And i he's been very actor. And of course. Bruce willis from the dan features as well as Really bizarre at the time. I believe in ninety five. This came out around the same time as die hard with a vengeance so now open. Bruce was desire but all the actors in this they decided to work. I know scale these word. For less than what the usually get. And bruce willis and brad pitt are the main reasons why this guy agreements especially brazil was. Yeah i heard this movie. Only costs twenty nine million dollars so he had. This is kind of like a pennies in the hollywood industry so they did not have enough to basically pay everybody. And i. i think. I heard a bruce will- is Decided to take a pay cut. Yeah because he really really wanted to work with the director and brad pitt was a basically an unknown at this point in yet by the movie by the time the movie came out he was already a big star. True shooting this and the movie seven gas around the same time But both the people know is brad pitt. At the time of being late knoll boy a digest not just for is looks and brad pitt actually spent a lot of moms living in a mental hospital. He did a over sista libra. Six months of research into the character and jeffrey coins is one of the best things in this movie. The whole sequence of bruce willis and brad pitt at the hostile. That is just good comedy banter here there. And they're both trump plane agents. Tixx brad pitt is very lake cocky. You know john mccain is very serve himself l. take charge guy dot co year. Who's basically just a timid nervous is unsure of the encircled on here. He's too late the scene were he's Introduced to mouse theater. And he's recode and he's just drooling as moments wage. He's in the car with her and he has had a window just listening to. It's a wonderful world by louis armstrong. And just look late stuff on his face. This is where people can see that. He's a very good actor. He's not just the star as she wants to be there. And i thought this out there but there's a catch was attention try. I observed that the kennel and the late know. What would you be able to get to the right now. Jet y'all's background catch. One thing that i found really interesting. And i don't know if you got to hear this on top of all the research brad pitt did for this movie The director didn't feel he got this speech or the mannerisms squat quite right. So he actually. In addition to that. I think he went to a speech trainer. I believe and he still didn't get right so while the solutions that day came up with was to actually take away his cigarettes and after they did dad. The director said perfect. And that's how that's why we see so we see nicotine withdraw in this movie. Oh gosh. I was shocked. When i heard that i was like really geez. This is is to cooler because like this movie when they were in had very low. Ten stores lat time study was made movies. Because you'll think of this. This was a studio picture. They had three been stars working with an independent director. I guess is really independent in no way but he has made some other feature movies but most of his movies have been not so much commercial. He's not tall. Hr herschel director so we did digest this. They came back very low. A people were not understand in the story line of it and then but the studio they can you changes to this and getting with the credits and it made over one hundred sixty million dollars the yes. That's that's i mean that's a big gain for from roughly thirty million to a hundred and sixty nine million dollars. That's a big paycheck. Oh i think. I think that what really helps The movie In a way. I don't know if you heard his or not but The director really wanted Jeff bridges for the for the main role and success. And and he's he's in great great actor but the studios wanted a big budget. You know actor so he had some leverage if you know what they did to him would brazil. He was still sour. So he said okay. We'll get bruce willis for this movie if you let me have the final cut and they signed and that's what we have not so in a way. I think the best thing to happen to this movie was bruce willis because he gave some sort of tool for him to be able to negotiate the final cut and have the movie. Exactly how you wanted it to be. Yeah and you see scenes of terry. Gilliam and bruce was this movie and yeah there are times. Do elway arguments about holiday. Go because the terry white went into one way and presents be another way own s. I heard that he didn't want him to be. You know his typical mannerisms the he used for all diehard movies and all the stuff. He was very adamant for him not to do any of those. This was going to be an original So he couldn't do any of this stuff. I think the only thing that he got past him was the fact that he always has a thing for showing the he's a left handed person. That's the only thing that impasse might believe but it was really interesting. I found that i know that. Yeah i just saw login one clip. Oh this documentary. And if the blu ray for told my doctor call the hamster factor other things and the documentary but they have factories goes back to that sequence of the hamster in the little details. That james all the background details of pitcher of small scene where they're fighting about kohl's of basic cared and i. I don't know exactly what i was going to be. really say. This arginine boat wanting that the worst shooting turns out that it was a scene The orange shot yesterday. That had argument so that you haunted. It was there about a sequence. And then bruce was always. You've been yesterday sequence that we are shot ortega and then terry be hundred there. Yeah but i don't listen to their a little bit viewpoint. Plotline of biz as people have not seen to wendy's know there's a play going on. We know that job bruce willis character has passed. If i he's a he's backing. Find information and collect samples for de for the scientists because apparently in this future. The virus hasn't had a cure yet and they're trying to find a cure for for the virus so he goes past want him to go back to the year. Nineteen ninety six to the virus happens as we descended head back to nineteen ninety two instead and this is where he gets arrested and he needs. A mouse does care for the first time. This is where he did sent to a mental hospital with jeffrey ferriter. And while they're in the hospital are mental. Which is not like it does that. She was shot arch in all penitentiary. Back from the twenty two threes. While he's there they're watching these videos by animals being experimented on and push was the will maybe the human race deserves to be extinct and or wizard be wiped out and goes away by the race. Busby app and He's able bruce will actually going. So how was able to brazil's a key that he can escape and he tries to escape. The doctors find him and they attacked him and they locked him in this room with all shops on him and this was a seen the one where was starts here and that guy's voice added after in holland. Yeah the when he gets into dad. Let's call it jail cell as you know for for a mentally unhealthy in he goes into the future and apparently the same cell but is the future That's when he started seeing hearing voice of the guy calls so bob Donald trump in there and they see that he's gone and helis gave the dodgers tried to back to the rate year again but they meself a gets bad to war one thousand nine hundred seventeen. Yes yes yes. Yes in there and he actually beat up with one of his friends from the future. He's there the war Coal brazil's catcher his shot in the laid. Then he's back in the actual rate timeline. The timeline for him I've lived the fat to that. Weighs in the ron year. He's tarn the doctors all the table. And you have Actor portion who played the ridler. He's one of the scientists there ain't trying to explain to him that he's from a future but were they are at early in the past and i can imagine how difficult that was. Be someone who comes from the year. You know ninety seven to explain to people that these these are happening happening right now. There's a line there that. I cannot help myself every time that i watched this movie which has been many times. Where he's in that scene he tells his doctors. I am not crazy. And i always have to reply so sesa crazy guy to starts thursday test quotes that basically says about how animals are gonna blake ruled or again as as birds from Patients in a figure. That's a pulled from bushels character. We boy i saw a movie. Dita's i thought. Oh this zobel thing this as she was taken from a real person and if you look at the context of where we are now in twenty twenty seem that way that the whole wage and whatnot. A measure vein. If you think about it you know it could be into any future context skin. I don't like that lecture. Did a doctor psychologist from this movie was having. And how many times throughout history there were people that came back talking in strange Tones describing this sora pandemic that is gonna in six hundred years is going to wipe out. The human race is latino. This we're here. Forget you are the culprits. Kelly stolen dj told monkeys. Mr sunshine the took over there but yeah we even when he just loud how that phone call the scientists at its own. That women are kids. Yeah and then when he s he does go back to the right time line. I don't remember what mountains dole's name was Toy forgot that had to wait. Goes back to visit. Hurries distraught. He can answer and puts his hostages mates her drive them to disown hotel. They stay there. I'm just trying to remember certain elements plots he does. I know wants to try and find. I wanna try and find going. But he has to the city to find clues out told buggies. they're just tweeted. My store division got the cat valid. Yes oh. I remember that that i was looking at that scene in the on the the hotel and it was not the kind of hotel it i would stay yet. It is a lot better than anything that could be a future true. We didn't get to the other hotel that the worst that was the philadelphia right the hotel by the hour there to The sort of the hotel owner says. Hey whatever hey baby doll in brazil goes. She's not my baby doll. My psychiatrist my doctor and the neidl togo's whatever just stuff you buddy because this is the hotel where people just talent pay by the hour Yeah but the hey. We doesn't people join this on here. So laissez hello to liam and hello to restrain. Thank you very much food. So we're talking about the future told. Jeez i don't like monkeys. Twelve of them coming out. Yes yeah i was gonna say that army of the does say that the promotional material for this is kind of cool it does toll. Short montes is a very odd title for movie. How the dual time travel especially about a diet traded cure disease. You figured that they're better to do time. Travel by told montes or eight and all the marketing material had do i was twelve months of. What is the ed scifi to be. Just very aesthetical added be the budget immaterial. Fatty newspaper ads. the late. You know one two three four five down to say twelve months. Yes well. I just not quite sure where else's and though plot there he goes es in there in the past right now and this was while he's in the past passes that he started to become very obsessed with the past he leads. You just wanted to stay at their music. Lists the air bounced. Those character is trying to convince them that. Hey you probably crazy you. Imagine all the stuff that happened. The human race is not going to die of this going. Be fine and bristles detector starts to believe that he starts to think that maybe i am maybe not right in the head a move. The doctor house complaints and then later on when as character starts actually steen. Also the happens joe. Jackie sees a photograph. A was the past didn't shots as she took questions. Like how do you have bullying your lake from the nineteen seventeen. How is this happening and brazil. All maybe crazy like no. No these are actually real a band. There's also you can do while the job of the car and they about kids who is on i. Guess of the kids is lost in a well. Yes he says they'll dory basel holds and as you found saw died as she is so she starts to believe the stuff that he says is c. Becomes crazy the he appears to be somewhat saying and just the way that their personalities or switch. Because i i. She's very late. Coleman person and then such rollin and as she is the really weird and crazy one and there's like by by fear quotes that happened in the movie. If i can know why does might say. I'm gonna purposes protesters a coach where she goes to leave a message for the scientists and head right now but not do is how merry christmas and it was message. Diapers was heard early on the beginning of the movie and live slightly distorted and when she came up and said that it was like oh my god she actually caused this whole thing. You know the the reason why thereafter the twelve monkeys is because of her and her apparent prank. Yes yeah definitely thinks that. This mcgee's that i do it and the told mikey's are this animal liberation front and the basically just want to try to free the animals. That's the whole thing. They're jeffrey gaines. Father is a famous doctor play by the late christopher player in a very tight small role but he's the guy who's always a scientific tests on animals and so jerry jones in his cohorts. What cannot him block. So he said the animals can escape or do things because he's definitely not about He doesn't on the animals of jeffrey also at the same time to the movie he heard. He wants to adopt his father's views on things and he says father is doing more retested animals so giovanni coins as a character that has like all over the place receiving the hospital He's very eccentric. And then we've seen them at disney's home that his father has. He's hosted the party. This where brazil is imbalanced. character comes in defined. There's really colleague odd sequence. In the movie when bruce willis is with malice. Dole is before it goes the party and he's owner tight and he says you smell really good and i'm very sorry about this. Does that was pretty creepy. There i thought he was. I thought it was returns like a rape scene into because murdering. Yeah well yeah because you see people on the news talk about a woman who got really bird because you as you see what happens with from bows dole. Stop it stopping. You heard me. Stop it and then it just cuts away and then by himself as you're thinking won't detail this woman. I don't know. I see your aereo here. Elements on the news talking about this woman. Who got thoroughly brutally slain. You're thinking that ship. This could be the woman that guy. Slain asset glennon. Show you a picture. Yeah are they when he actually comes out and opens the trunk and she's in there and she starts fight with them and he goes i. Did i kill someone. Like what fifty billion people or she does. She goes to kill someone and eagles. Yes i killed the whole human race fifty million people And killy won this with the cop schwalbe as she says right now stay home. Do say. I'll be there to help you. And then he disappears and this is where back bay actually becomes real for her. She starts delayed. See like this where these are not wait what they should be she starts. It's and old play. The movies did question things that you see even the opening credits of the movie with reality. The monkeys circle or pattern. And then the other names of the three stars where it's plea because focus those blurry again to us. It makes an i was gonna say is kind of funny that you mentioned that because this is one of the and i wanna i wanna go out here and say the only movie that i've actually seen where you actually are questioning yourself. You know like like you said at the beginning of the movie there's a quote assess Five billion people are gonna die and all you see that first and then the the bottom says who quoted and is a mental patient on a hospital nine hundred ninety and then throughout the entire movie. You're actually especially if you've never seen this movie or watch it for the first time. Which is what happened to me. The very first time that i saw this movie. You actually. you're questioning yourself. Like like a c- a i say okay. He's he's same then when they cut to the pass you're like hold on a second see crazy and then no he's not crazy and then you go back. Yeah he's crazy then no she's crazy and throughout the entire movie you're questioning not only the sanity of everybody in the film but yourself or questioning this sanity and everybody in the film and the only time that i seen a movie that has had that reaction on me watching it. I don't know if that's something that you experience as well. It's actually very much so you certainly question yourself a question the logic things to very much so this is very much in engaging pitcher and i actually watch us with one of my roommates and he mentioned just one small will h plot hole in this and that is near the end. When the ashley do go to an airport because they find out that that the mcgee's was just release animals mos- while they were not the ones causing the beth album but they still want to escape as to that they don't want to try to find out who the with the virus came from the ones you try to escape because they're being hunted by police and whatnot but when they go to the airports and bruce space that phone call to scientists he says look guys i don't know maybe you're perfectly company a master. Look ignore the munchies all right. they're not the ones to do anything. And he the phone and his friends shows off. He says hey we message will only be my message. Five mr always a whip third years ago. Five mexico was mayor. Gal we message where you ignore. The toll bundy's way talk about a says you guys shoot this woman to kill this mazda character ever on wall. Why would he leave a message there. Would they actually know about the full is now the cause of it I kind of see that way to there's lake. Maybe some things of that that just don't stress there. But i i will look concerned about. That wasn't suitable. The fat is that this story calls in a circular line with especially and we didn't talk about as much there. But bruce bulls the character. He has recurring dream. Sees the i can shot at the airport and this blonde woman running towards him because he has dream of banana reports and seeing at shows and the elements that lead up to bull mellon. Stolen bruce willis being at the airport. Rashly kinda vastly. Because when they're at the airport there's doing that to escape from the cops really cloud and live a happy life. And they have to sizes and bruce willis to style themselves now known as the guy in his dream. So essentially and is starting for spoilers for over twenty years old. Essentially all about spoilers here and i wanted to. I wanted to let everybody know if you're listening again you're missing out but if you are on the chat This is this conversation. Would all of us so if you guys would have chime in and discuss. We're all other conversation especially seen. The movie does but one thing that i wanted to say is on your comment. This movie kind of represents how time and space actually is. We said third dimension will being were we are. We're supposed to only actually have to look at time in a linear fashion. You know you have the birth. You have present you have death but in this movie. There's a couple of representations that can see how time and space is actually circular and. This is something that even for those doctor who fans out there. This is what he has mentioned. Also any anybody that isn't a fourth or higher dimension. Looks at that and you can see the in this movie at the beginning of the movie. He's a kid and he's looking as his death in at the other movie. He is dying and his self is looking at him dying And another thing too. Which is i think the directors kind of move on doing this the fact that he and i don't know if you noticed this but the movie stars with the kids is an ends with the kids is yeah Fascinating to there. May i think roberta's on here now Touches allots algebra time regardless if we didn't travel back on as yeah yeah. That's that's the thing to this. This movie it's kind of touches on the fact that time travel is on changeable because of what happens throughout you know throughout the movement. How how many things said although he's trying to do any any changes he's he's making the changes to cost the exact same results indian kosher. Yeah finding t mentioned about that end in the movie. So turkey gilliam. Won't he only wanted the we do. It does end up. Both the shot of both is but he didn't really want the scene. Where we we didn't miss too. Darren morris please this brighter for if he plays worker for crispus character. This assistant you see him. In the beginning movie he's talking with does character a scripted way about him. Tired about how you know. Hugh mystery compensating. Did animals in what was much. And are he's assistance for christopher plummer. And he's the guy who was at the infants virus. He tastes it from airport to airport. Which is not magin even if it was compliant from one place to place risley's toxins Unless they are super fast act in the cost would be able to stop them pretty quickly but regardless he's the one that puts the plate out there makes you mad he'd go underground and there's a sequence where he's in the airplane and he's talking with one of the scientists that woman scientist and she mentioned that he she's real estate ads. You talk about these mass shootings and violence reports. Now you may say that we're the nest endangered species and david character. Goals will be right with a whole that whole scene on the plane turn jillian you want to shoot that. He wanted the scene. To after brazil's kids shots does end on. The kids is But the producers like well no we need to have more this This be so terry gilliam as a way to say a few studios said okay assured scene of the airport. But it's going to be huge. I want the british crane. You have what. I just made the most established shots and then it turns out there trying to go against the studio system as well because it became a vigorous shot of the whole that of cars and a young coal water with his parents to the car and the car zooms in our the cameras. Another car and the is egypt up of his eyes. So it did end the way plus the studios were happy. The were happy and everyone just were older. A you're here from the science fiction. The revenue podcast. Hello sir is we are trying to join in. He's going to all of you out there to have not seen the chat. He he may join in. So i'll let you guys know as soon as he's comes on just how this i answer c. Always test screen. Because they're going all right. We want you to see this new persuasively. And that they all bruce willis yes. The same guy is in case of ninety five. He made twelve monkeys and ninety seven. He made the elements elements from a french philly. Told like jesus or like this aid french. Our house fleet that has made same thing goes for the film. Elements of comets was made by french director studio money. So brazil's tasers chances so if your member and ninety five you millie. Bruce was for diehard yes as published known for and you know that he's a time traveler and as always nobody's really i sort of see our ince's back then not really Watch this will stop. Foreign was not doing what usually does he's and figure what the hell are. You just does. Not bruce willis series supposed to be more tough and ways could be crying out over a song. What is this here. And the whole element of him. Jomon back into one time. Line admiral back to another one. I can see that to be confused for people as well and a louis. Linda reader cory now. Oh yeah yes. Tv show yes. I this is to Even the tv show has actors from the movie. Mellon stowe's is in the new series. Why playing the same character. I know i would seen it's shipped the same. I heat watching. Tv shows where they just follow the same plotline as the movie. Even it's extended hours. I don't know it's a fifty fifty chance. I mean i seen it where they actually do justice to the story and i seen were a most of the times. Unfortunately where is is you. Something else is now the story. oh yeah. The story does fall under pattern. We are when james cole. He's in the future as go back. Passover virus is the pass batch the right one. he's with milestones character. she's trying to show. These things are happening. She's now believing him then. So she's duster believing him. Hey was sir how are you you. you're you're muted. Still here's limited. All of you. Who who are nad watching this jan carlos just joined nusa and he's doing sign language because i guess His sound is was awesome. You tell. I'm actually freeman my camera the same way that the sequences in the mental is shot because all shot at the study angel. Where were these slightly off. Which tied represents all the characters in this all the brain show. Welcome back outright made it so. I took advantage of joining the call off. They'd use or months. And i love this movie. I think that we did this with another somebody else. Because we talked so much about this movie. You know what it is is actually we sold is moving so many times when we were preparing for a show because we going to record it and we did not record it. I guess we got sidetracked with another one. We wanted to another episode. We wanted to record them. We completely forgot about this movie. Giancarlo jelica favorite momento. This movie or favorite you like about twelve months. Everything wrapped in man. Yes yes he's the best. He's an awesome actor he was able to portray that. And i don't know if you knew you. And carlos i was telling the burned it that what you're seeing there is actually secretly nicotine withdrawal near that director. Figure out by taking cigarettes way. He can get the shots that he wanted. Brad pitt has played by large that hospital. Which is actually just quite astounding to see the words. Ray remember the words but all of his marks on certain things there. I the moments where he tells that guy to dallas chair and almost off the orbital him dance. There is just like this really the ones character. There you toy with brad pitt. He does what would be known as the takes the whole time like they hold. Y'all acting it does go via the takes of like looking like crazy like he's is popping the actors like that. The hand painted contact lens. That was that was awesome. I would think about that. That was a very much I can to be so what i'm comfortable. Where they your i. yes. I wonder if he actually war too. Because you know they're uncomfortable as it is but if you have one in each i it might be better But i know the one of them was a hand painted a contact lens to create that effect for the movie. Now i guess you but when we all think about mellon store this book because it talks about a bunch because she also house kind of a developed from his as well as being someone who is science was alive. And then how already. Theories be skirted improve ron. Where suddenly sisters chris one. There's nasal solely gradual seems psychological message in there. Actually 'cause i mean if you think about it she. She was down that they had the truth. And she end up believing everything and being just like abbas is at the end of the day bike she was left to be the only person the other this was real when he was gone. Yes i mean we see that appear when you when she wrote that message. Oh a spray pinta. That message into the cy wall it was just there and you know it was very apparent when you had that conversation with d. He's here previous boss from the mental institution whereas she's saying who are we to say hussein who's not and is like you know psychology say religion and i'm just about to lose faith and had a very profound and i'm paraphrasing but i those very profound for this movie dad it's debris is reality because that's the problem is that reality is just based on perception. We count uniquely from every shine individually. So when you think about it it was more like. He transferred his reality into hers. Yeah yeah you know. It's more messed up because we're literally something that we separate from us. A reality is part of us is how we see the world and i mean why he did is. He's trying to show her. What reality really is. He achieved app but the probably they are the only ones that can see it as a here from album. Hold of not pronouncing the ron Bernarda time child movies and tv shows essay. I am watching doctor. Who now just watching the twelve on these tv. So yeah please show. I watch it yet. Yeah i haven't watched it yet. But i'm i'm very curious after because i'm kind of curious to see missing parts from the story like for example you know in the show you get to see military action and you get to see how people died and the population. How burning the bodies stuff lay down the you. Don't get to see on the movie. But there were implied. Yeah me showing also watch the day to day in the future. Of course it just shows a glimpse of it and then you send them back so there's a little material to show what happened for what thinks jank to what the president was on the movie star which was a future you see. I'm just hoping that since the movie itself has done late the circular pattern where people keep repeating the same stuff. I'm kind of hoping that the lead actress starts to know that these are done in a circular pattern was trying to alter. Its but every time we should all traits. Go good or bad because you told him that would share the human population of the disease but now live with living late teaches and ourselves not to be branded and we have more control over us for all hobie so every time that something happens. There's a bad element to that. I'm hoping that the show it's floors that is well. It's just a retailer of the show of the weekend. I want the. Because i'll i love all of terry gilliam's aspects. I love us angels. I love that music with the according to the violins and everything like that his newest area conic system from others to still be in sci-fi bubis s where it's been all right now find out who actually does music is by a guy. Paul mark master music store for a stream to for the recent buluan for most wanted the maker. Yeah so he's done so nice being other being titles but yeah. I remember music for stream. Two in also for wise off the chosen blonde and that's there was very different than the one four for years. Twitty's has this french french. Yes which film the jaw bills by this little place is art house to film three. Oh and accurate meyer. The steelers were taken a shot at this too. Because you just now you have with as a decorated from french short film you have screenwriters. One of them is is over bladerunner but not really much out that you take risk on a director who had one one flop and a few acquittals obsesses there so yeah allow highly gamblin. It makes another if they gave the budget to this movie. They gave because of that than twenty nine million dollars because they didn't want to take a big big risk. Bris was not in this movie. I don't think this would ever be made. And i'm so glad that bruce willis did do as all stars dodger. He was trying to be like well this by movie now at delayed by being this way. I'm gonna change everything that the doctor says. The movie actors the are kind of vain about in the public. Dilate bruce was as fans like even the documentary. That i watched a baltimore mondays. They had a bunch of his young fans stream. And bruce was. Bruce willis a lot of people who went to solve that just screen. They're respecting. ill should start. Bruce willis carries the terrorist back was they. Were not expecting to see this table character at all. So you press was for went to do something different. That's why i love. Bruce willis movie becomes her a good movie. Don't yes ese. Roy absorb all day and these cap teed than glasses. he's gone off of wade perceived and also is born in unbreakable which is time. Divall walk to this movie. Brazil has to be a doctor. Oh yeah in our thinking to Even more so you know because when you were saying about him wanting to change if if he wanted to change the movie. Because it's such a big star. I was also thinking even so at the fact that he is taking pay cuts and his movie because he wanted to work with the director. So there's a lot of things out there that that could have made him say you know on getting payless for this. I am bringing this movie because on the biggest actor here. I'm going to do the things that the way that i wanted. I am glad that that's not what it turned out to be. Because that's a big thing. Because he show his work ethic and at the end of the day as an actress professionally and i mean shows the ideal today is still a humble guy. You try to go and just parade the whole thing on. Its own mad at the same time. We can all agree. That that showcasing bruce wheels on this helped a lot to gain vision and side from all the public. Because not everybody's fantasize fiction and this movie on time came up. It was like we had movies. I'd add like science fiction. Movie was that time. The whole thing was action. Movies horror movies thriller movies. You know science. Fiction is a tricky concept. Because don't all the time everybody gets. It always have fun. Everyone and you know something that i found out that. I'm really curious to see. European joined in john. Carlos i was going to saving this question. especially you. Who likes the acting umbrella pit on this movie crazy guy. Did you guys know dead. The other person that was going to get this. Role was edward scissorhands cigar. Forgotten his unita. Oh you will not die great role. John dering myself. And i'm going to tell you i think about it. Jack sparrow crazy scenically. Different movie with him. And i i. I'm afraid to say that might have been even better character but you never know beyer. I'm thinking more of like johnny depp. Playing at wooded vis jets borough doubly. See ya back ninety five. I don't see johnny depp. Doing stuff like this. Because he is e elements of his role in The challenge charter battery. And would jack sparrow Yeah human hands. Yeah very without problems. Yeah i can't agree jenny. There will have been just another great waterfall at but we know the to be good with him to yeah. It's hard for me to say. Because i really liked the character under brad pitt. And i thought he was an amazing performance. But you this guy about it you just. Career is to me. Because originally brad pitt audition to play bruce willis character. That's all that you want to draw for a minute. We do with Yeah having brad pitt. Be the storage kaya. Quiet guy because batches his other walls. You did the past. And then you have. Bruce was speed. They need a senator die because he's done light shows like mood. Layton and some of the comedies like blamed deeds and sunset before you did you know the darod features. We've brazil as he's daddy's complaints you. Zebras will be that crazy. I at the insane asylum but the filmmakers decided to go. No we're gonna flip desires ear and we're give you the actions that you'd specs and the rules a dispatch. So you're gonna the brad pitts. Downplaying his look in smaller moles. Because this game all after cheryl manse. They both true romance and This this year us rousseau's people that brad pitt is not just a good actor. Oh yes she has other agents the him he made a movie called cool world. Yes those are good about a cartoon character that was obsessed with humans. Okay so there you go now. What i watch that movie. When i was. It wasn't radio when i watched it. I watch movie. Maybe like late nineties. Ninety eight ninety nine movie was like wow. I want watch more stuff like this. I don't so hey good for it. Went to try to teams working with villiger's because he wants to be seen as an actor. Not just a movie star in it versus all that she carlo. He has become a movie star because of it. He did that he wants to do. You took a practice that she leads to take on. And that's what made a rural star per se. Pretend game makes us stronger portfolio. Because you know there's good actors but have good me make me making specific type of movies. You've seen other types of shows or movies try and it's not as way you don't you don't feel the chemistry care journalists park but there are some other actors that you just see them doing all sorts of things and you're like wow robert downey junior. For example he's he's that array of actors you may ask different characters and he just kicks has to do with it. They are older actors. They you see doing like doing action. And that's okay too. You know not. Everything's for everybody. But that's what makes a movie star. Legendary is when they do all sorts of catchers and they do it perfectly. And krista terry gilliam for did those performances. Gitter jillian particularly the secrets from brad. Pitt's is also parts because see a man with a mission to youtube riddle about tim because he had his issues with. Your retail pitchers the past and after twelve monkeys. He directed fear. Logan in las. Vegas starring johnny depp. So he did it to work with johnny depp. The movie about the reindeer hunters thompson. The auto. I don't know if you're saw than ages. No you know what i you know. There's always those movies you're like okay. I'm going to watch it in the. You're listen you completely forget about them. This is one of those. That's very but that one didn't do just well the office. I became much more of a cult film later on that. He also pretended the brother. Scrim with the mason movies leisure. Yeah i know that what has fancier too but that went on underperformed at the box office and then that was the last through your film he made was the brother scream. Frito verse allows last time were system and he's been doing a lot of independent features. He did Thailand which is a relatively norway thailand. A yes he did. We team up again with heath ledger as well as christopher plummer for the imaginarium of doctor parnassus. That's all the actors. Were playing the role does he's legislature dies through the movie and so other actors had a teton is role nats. That was good. And then after that you wanna do a movie about the villa nova. Daikyo who don quixote. There's a famous documentary to about the big that we and the doll as well. He by his last two features was ashley zero theorem With christoph waltz was able to shoot the man who killed don quixote came on in two thousand eighteen Desert-like mixed reviews both of his movies. How like fifty percent rate in so They're meant for some people other people. Will doyle late this movie. Be that much there but Jillian is that he puts out what he wants to put out. And if you get it and you laid it great and if you don't okay there's w not trying to appease to the masses all that stuff there is. I would prove that him. The secre create very creative. In the way that. I i kind of appreciate that. My solve where he has vision and he's able to produce add vision as he intended Kind of like a piece of oil painting you know they might be one the speaks to you in a the other ones. Don't so it's okay if you don't like it it's okay if you like it but i actually appreciate that because that's a to me art what he's doing and i've asked brothers grimm. Be out outs. Vaccine loves and features and for him to do have a work for hire because both twelve monkeys and buzz grim features. He's doing concha work for hire and as a difficult difficulty to do. Because you won't your own sinister as a filmmaker onto that feature but also you want to highlight the screenwriters to wanna make sure. The actors are all highlighted. And i think the best khl of ever put together. The music does everything. The editon was extra time to everything. Just works everything is just a put into place that recipe for that soup the music. I mean just breezy into that mood on on on this film. One question that i that i wanted to ask is when i was watching this movie. I was thinking the continuation. And i wonder if it's just me but after i actually came in after. I heard D- psychologists Talked to cold as just left a message in the prank message. Back in and i was just thinking you know that the nature of time travel would would you. Did you think the same thing i did when she left a message. It's like oh my god. The reason for the entire movie up to this point was based on prank. That is definitely an interesting thing to think about there because yeah. She didn't do that with things happen the way they were. But then i get confused. Because when bruce willis leaves message for the scientists. Wade's at the airport into a door. The twelve monkeys were late. The just put together the From her and then secondly from him in time. So i don't know i was thinking. Oh i was thinking about that because if you think about it. That's that's a big heavyweight in essence. She has put the entire future in in a wild goose chase for the source the incorrect source and in doing so a lot. More people died That if if she'd have not placed that cole with the prank it may be sent an actual helpful message. That says you know. Forget the twelve monkeys. They have nothing to do with it. They can at least concentrate on something else and not lose all the time. Money in Resources into following a goose cheese. And i was when i when i watch that scene i was just like wow and i think a heavy heart on the character of cold because he feels partly responsible to because when he was in a mental institution in essence he gave he was at least the time he thought he gave him the idea of of twelve monkeys army. And there's a lot of things come full circle into this movie you know be the phantom mallon's balanced character dodger catherine something. I enter my research thinking that everything's fine. I'm still just leave this article about his message on there at that time to that. We're insane we're crazy. There's no there's those scientists there at all. I don't have to worry about anything. We're actually absolutely crazy. Window spit lives in hospital. And there were these find. Doesn't it be destroyed. The were just crazy people. So reminders us. They didn't know strip crazy words as it was that the world and it turns out that way and yells of goes to hell and whatnot for her perspective. There i would probably would save too. Because i would want to know is more trouble. Plays guys is it. It's a corporate place you leave. A for bruce willis goes and he repeats the same words as she says. Gee you know that. And he says guy best is catherine the oh yes. And that's another cool thing too when he said that it was very profound to because we as viewers of his movie heard the message. Do and that's when you realize you. Actually that moment which us act was very clever. How the sky's the voice when they were playing it earlier in the movie. But you're like their realization. The he had when she was speaking is the same that i like to think we as viewers of the movie had because we are remembering earlier in the movie the same worse. She's resigning right now. So we could almost recited along with bruce willis. It was it was. It was freaky and this was freaky. I feel for him because you magin been in a situation when you realized wow billions of people died because of me because of something. I did that. I thought it was just two minutes fund and you thought you you know harmless fun and it turned out to be the way that it was in the in in the end of the movie. Wow so you guys. I hope you liked today's episode. I hope you like the new format going to try to do this. Going forward because as i said before i wanna invite everybody into the conversation so you are welcome to type in chat and we can have the conversation. All our future shows are going to be streamed and facebook youtube and twitch You can find links on our website. but yeah come in. we can We can chat about the movies. And i'll go out. Try to put in a an early warning. I know this was a very very southern. And but i'll try to announce When i'm going to be on air And it's kinda hard for us because we We typically don't know when we record It would be a little easier if we can say. Oh we record every monday or something but I'll try to give everybody fair warning so you guys can join in join the conversation. I really want to thank the burn. Tore ball very. I live guest. All this was a man. I gotta say if you do it well this again although to cover the chat rooms in shot with you guys about the feature. Yeah this this is a great time. I appreciate it very much. I apologize about camera your votes count slanting thought well of cameras networks well but the sets were in twelve months and being now and and who knows what we do Another episode in a future. Abou- d twelve monkeys. Tv show that would be very very reactionary. So we haven't seen it. We're gonna curious so you guys. Thank you very much giancarlo. Well yes. That was a really nicer price. Thank you and I go. I hope to see you guys soon as big everyone thank you. Well this is never show for now. Please let us know if you liked this episode. Let us know if you have any all which topics you will likely to discuss in our next remember. You can follow us on twitter at scifi remnant. And if you like this podcast sharat. And don't forget the raiders in your favorite podcast platform is will help us grow. Thank you see you next time. This is science fiction remnant signing off.

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Episode #230: And The Iron Throne Goes To

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Episode #230: And The Iron Throne Goes To

"This is Paul Mcgann, and you're listening to the five fan gills podcast. The candidates sweet continue all the way to episode two hundred thirty of the. And it just. The fight for the girl. Take a moment to reflect all those. Everyone to this week's episode of the five podcast. Stumbling. Let's do the virtual table is joined this is Britney Bethlen. This is Chrissie in Salt Lake City. This is solid from Wisconsin, and this is Rachel in Annapolis. Indiana lower. All together this thing it's been awhile since. Well after being off last week, which is by fall. I'm sorry. I was well, extremely ill. I wouldn't let your fall. I'd say whatever, whatever it is played its plead. Yes. Yes. Yes. Blade mother nature. She's handed a bit of a hand in this. I have I mean I thought it was just allergy. And then it felt like I had been hit with. I don't know what it was. It was like the flu and the worst, call you could go and like bronchitis like all on top of one of each other like took symptoms for each of those and throw them in a pot. And that's what I had, and it is. Cred. Don't you have chess have gone current yet? For equal conquer it I guess. Good work on to bring it. Get over this pop. Con. Hopefully that maybe this. Hey, you'll, you'll be on. Yes. You can't get concord on top of this. Your. No idea. Of all, I know is it was awful. And I was just in, I had this arsenal of different like medicines like pills and liquid stuff and stuff to spray your nose and stuff to sprain, route news. Was nuts. I hope you. One time. And I got corn. Cardis the doctor gave this really good cough medicine. That made me sleep. No, not really. I get it. Either really good stuff. I've had that stuff before the good stuff that now this, this, this didn't qualify, unfortunately. Oh man. So anyway. I'm feeling tons better. How I may despite how Sounders said that the cost could linger for quite a while. But I shouldn't be contagious anymore. I always hated that late call to last long ago was still think you're sick like no. It's just a call. This, Eric -ation. Anyway. Let's get into the news beginning of conventions and concrete. Opportunity hoax opportunities to get caught. This is Joan Thanh has announced the locations for the pop up events that we talked about how ever many episodes ago that will be taking place, the first and fourth I go longest so about the same time is jug Han at south so you can go to the link in the show notes, and look at the map in a list of it'll tell you the city and the game store that will be hosting these events that he fight for rations as far as registered reading, and what games will be available. That sort of thing. So it's not. Was as widespread is I thought it would be. But because he was something new that they're trying. You know, don't spread yourself too. In the first tyrod seep is something that actually works at where and then tweak for next year. So it it tends to be concentrated in this part of the country. So there's a, a couple actually in the UK. Better during his well. So. Depending on your ability to travel. May may not be wind. It's reasonably close to you. So check the list. Check the map. The website Wilbur details. And wash your hands. Senator is your friend. Yes. And over in my neck of the woods as it were Phoenix for the fall, which twitches finish spring, it seems like you know, we're getting geared up for fall, I they've started their loyalty launch. So if you wanna get in for cheap go for that, and then they also announced one guest, which I'm I kind of like this one as Matthew Lewis who played never lung bottom in the Harry Potter movies. And he's like, one of one of the nicest, most personable people from that cast, I've never even actually met him. But once eight with a roommate. And I we sent it. I gotta go back until the story. So to listen to a podcast called Potter, castle, don't know if it's still going, but anyway, during the filming for movie four or five can't remember. Exactly, he, he was eating an interview on that podcast was on there, actually quite a bit. And they were joking around about his haircut in that movie. I wanted. So I wanna say it was four because they all had really horrible haircuts and movie. It was, it was terrible anyway. And so they were kind of joking around. He's like, yeah, I really need a hat. I don't have one. And so the coast like you heard it a cinema hat. And so we actually sent him a hat. I read I was I was at Utah state at the time. So my roommate pitched in and we sent him a Utah state hat. And a letter said, we heard you van Potter castrate, you need hats or he heard you need a hat. So here you go. And then he's he he wrote back incentives each signed. Signed photos with a note saying, yeah, I do need a hat. My hair gets pretty bad. You still have to your hat. So that had to be sent you like all those many years ago. So no. Yeah. He's, I I'm excited about that one. 'cause each is every everything I've ever anytime. I've seen him in interviews or, or anything like that. He just it just seems like such a such a fun in approachable type of guy not like, you know, sometimes sometimes, you have the stars of movies are like so far away, a and you can't really relate to them or anything, and then there's guys like Matthew Lewis. So that's, that's pretty big. That's a pretty. I've always liked novel evenly before he was cool. I guess, but I'd always liked him. He was always sort of the, the real sweetheart and then was story progresses. He's like, oh, wow. There's actually more to Neville than just being the kind of, you know, Wimpy little KiKi can kinda kid. That, that, that everyone picks on. But now he was good. And then back to my name woods. Indeed. Indeed, Disney me, which is for those that may be paying attention to the calendar. It is timber this year, not in August, like an Arleigh is because of de twenty here expo. Didn't wanna try to compete with the bass itself. Understandable. So. Yeah. So it's a bit late September this year, but they are an SE guests as we mentioned several episodes ago, bright hall. But this year is shaping up to be a very very big year for the as far as guests. So like the affirmation Brian hall. They are bringing back yeehaw Bob. Who was there not last year with your before? So that's gonna be excited because he's a really good performer. He performs regularly at Walt Disney World so quite fun. And then our good friend friend of the show Lou Monge aloe is returning. It's not going to be nother like decade before I see Louis get. Yeah. Lou is actually last night talked to him. He's he said he had it lost calendar way before they announce this. I knew he said he was he was planning on coming, but he's going to make sure totally try not to overbooked himself, so he's not like flying in the morning of the flying out like that evening. So. Might actually stick around enjoy some who's your hospital for me a little bit. Out to dinner or something. Yeah. And then they've also announced that they are going to be doing a special hard ticket events. The morning of the meat is the meat doesn't start to like noon. So that morning. They're going to have a separate ticketed Bank. The beat it self as furry. So this will be paid events but is going to be a essentially a talk. I guess QNA the format is yet to be outside list is gonna work, the Disney with Lee cockerel, which who has been on loose show, several times if you've ever listened to those episodes, and Lee hawker himself actually has his own podcast. Worst. I know Chauncey listens to on the regular. And then 'cause Lee cockerel is a. I don't remember exactly what his title was 'cause he he worked. He worked for Marriott. Hotels for the longest time. And then he worked for Disney anywhere for dizzy in several different capacities. But he was the vice president or president of the parks in design a Paris, I think. So he, he was with the Walt Disney company for very long time and his written several books about management at leadership and customer service and all sorts of things, and that's what his talks are focused on Chauncey actually went and to a talk of lease. Last year. Late last year, the his, his, his work sent him to and paid for because this was like an executive corporate type thing. So really expensive. But so he got to meet league got book, and all sorts of things. So that was that was cool. So this is on Suming. This'll be similar to what Mr. Cocco does for the corporate events, but on a smaller scale, obviously 'cause they're not recharging what they would for those. But right now, it set for general mission. I think is going to be ten dollars at the VIP's will be fifty in that will include a site book from Mr Michael. So this is this is a big thing is this is kind of a big deal because Cockrel is just yet you may not know him by name. But if you've ever listened to him talk he is just. Amazing, the his his mindset when it comes to. You know, being a good leader and not just in business, but just in life. And how to conduct yourself, both in business and personal relationships, so that. You know everybody succeeds. So this is this is very cool. So stay tuned to the Facebook page for nation on how to get tickets for that. Of course September. But it it didn't meet. Excited to see Louis Ghia all these other people on top of it. And I'm like. Level up to a leather. Over nine thousand. So there's that is far as a convention announcements and then really early. Other piece in news is we got a teaser trailer for these Star Trek cards series. And I mean all it is, is the teaser by I do. Legit got chills. Watching this. I forgot how much it is captain. My captured. Yeah. Yeah. To, to, to see his dec- to seized on Luke's face, again that you get a little bit of the next gen theme. Yeah. Music played at the back of the hall. Don't know if they could get his buddy from Instagram to make guest appearances of the leader. I imagined the wolf probably some familiar faces popping. I wouldn't be surprised. Or certain. Former number one behind here. He is being drugs. Pretty much everything we watch it. So. What sold in a TV show. I walked like really you making outs. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. So. That's that's exciting. Still, no word on when exactly it's gonna drop a look. How many wouldn't be all that? But obviously, it's going to be on C all access. So. For those that are paying for CBS all access. There you go. For your Star Trek fakes. That's news. Actually. Although we are we are close to the end of the month. So, yes. So. Gather there is not a poll on the once and call the book club, the club. 'cause. Thai? Yeah. 'cause it was already. So if people want to still get their. Zone their comments and stuff in they sure can do that still. Scanned. The book is about badge IX. Had it sitting right here now. I can't remember and then the next next month says blue-box. Yes. And then right should hopefully have pulled for next month up. You know, for for July will in June. So I typically for talking about July ready. Yeah, no kidding Hilmi about it already all those happily. I know it's like the, the, the pop con like festivities like officially unofficially kickoff on Friday with. Food truck Friday, downtown Indianapolis on Georgia street. So if you wanna. Start getting in the mood for pop. Con. Do that, too that to Friday afternoon. Saturday morning is the superhero run, which I am participating in. So I'm not doing the the, the five K nine during the one mile family walk with k j and her husband and a couple other folks or the, the same save team together. So. I was like I think I can handle one mile walk. So. There's still time to register for that. If you wanna join us Saturday voiding, or if you can't, and you just wanna make a donation, you do that to via the same website. So if you wanna make you donation, specifically on behalf of cage as team. Let me know and I can send you the lake specifically for her team. Or you want to register on her. If you aren't just fate. So hopefully mother nature cooperates. I know. But that's kind of been the that's been the wild card way forever. Yes. Mother nature always Dwyer called. Indeed. Why do they? Well, the race should happen. Yeah. Raynor shine as long as it's not dangerous to be outside. It's like rain, little raises on a sorts of these sorts are racist. They tend to they tend to be all weather, like unless, like I said it gets agers. Yeah. Okay. There's all sorts of calm related stuff that's occurring next week. But we can talk about that, and pop cod, schedule on that example. The go-to lashing has dropped yet. So it's supposed to drop Friday or Saturday. So. Oh, ready? While let's move on shoe week's main topic, which is the end the official end completion of, of thorough. So is this the but you guys Maury? He. Odds are we wouldn't sing it. Well enough to get digging for copyright. So. So yes came thrown the epic, multi million dollar episode episode series for HBO has officially completed. We got all six episodes, plus a bonus documentary, which aired yesterday, which I finished. Audited, good. It is good. If they got some weird music choices. I will give that there's a few times, where like music stars playing like really this is what you decided to us here. But. Like you can just use music from the show. I would expect. No. It's like it's like a popular music, probably from the countries that they from artists from the country's film in. Would be my guess, 'cause it's not anything I recognized, the they film in, like Spain and Croatia and Ireland other places like that. So. I really recognize America's today's poppy. That's true. I haven't listened to popular radio and ages. Yeah. Me neither. Willingly, like at will. Kinda like get to choose on music and this one people's lake we get like random fictive music. So I do recognize Selma plays use it only because of that. And I don't I don't want to listen to more than I have to. Who likes as pop music? Though, obviously, we already covered the first two episodes in a previous episode so we don't need to rehash that. So we've got the four episodes cover which really as we mentioned in that previous episode of the podcast. The I really just setting pieces in place. And with the, the long night, aka the battle of winter fell. That's when every, you know, the horses were added gates and it was just to the end of the end of the series. And. Yeah. There's a lot to cover both in in show in university self, and then the show is a hole in their controversy, which will get to. So she ever popular culture. No, nobody ever. So some controversies more like really and then some other show like. You screwed up. Let's go through, obviously spoilers. Anyone cares about spoilers at this point, though? It's been two weeks since the finale people or week, we can change finale. Seven weeks, the battle. So let's go episode by soda, I guess that would probably be the easiest to keep track of who's where who's who's died. Because a lot of people died. Unfortunately, the prediction that I made post battle of winter fellk a true. So, so episode three was the long night. They we've called the battle winter fell to episode title was long. So this was the big battle the two minute episode where like sixty minutes of it was that old essentially. So this is the essentially the army of living, which includes the armies of the north of winter fell wild lanes the night, you know, what's left of the nice watch the da, three key, the sullied denarius with her two dragons, all people gathered together in winter fell against the night, king, and the army of the dead and one undecorated. Or one song dragon. So. This was a. This was. I don't want to say it's tough to watch. I'm eating most tough to watch because how dark it was controversies because of how dark it was like I had to watch this because I watch, I watch, I'll gave it on my computer. So 'cause like. HBO go is streaming internet. So. So I have to do everything on a computer 'cause my TV is aged, I can't do things like that. So I'm in the dark I have all light street off the screen on my on my computer, the brightness turned all the way up. And then, like noise cancelling headphones on to try to drown much outside noise as possible, so I can see here as much as possible as unlike adjusting my screen so that it's tilted just the right way. So then I'm getting any like glare or weird shadow and anything. And I to see most of it. All right. There are a few times where especially when you got into bits where there were like a bunch of bodies all together, and, like people climbing on top of each other's, you know. Just Don piling, Tapuach another. You're like, wait where did free and go, or you know, where's padraic? Like lose track of someone eventually off again. You're like okay, you're, you're still life. Good. Like I don't once I like that. But it kind of like built the intent the tension, the tension up and like it made it mall. Not bragging, which fun. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they I mean, they kind of literally spelled out that this was the long night that it was going to be like the red woman says, dark, and full of terrors. Because, you know, we get this initial like standoff with the Dauth Raqi Mela Sandra, you know, suddenly appearing, and she liked the author AKIs like sword things on fire, and they take off on their horses on horseback into the crowd of whites, the other end of, you know, this snowy, battlefield and you hear the rocky no doing. They're cheering Xena warrior, Princess a ad. They rushed into this crowd of, of whites. And the, you know, the daughter screaming cheering just gets. Quieter and you watch the light, the fire from the swords, go out till suddenly quiet again. And there's no fire that was so creepy. Yeah. Then you get Giora coming back like shaking his head like no we're screwed. Yeah. Like this do not go well, playing me. Yes, really. How many more letters, how many letters are in the Larry alphabet? No. Are there even enough? Yes. I mean, this was just I mean episode south is long, and it's, it's chock full end just filming this episode was just nuts for them. They stillness over fifty five nights in over eleven weeks. Yes. In this was shot in Northern Ireland and what's crazy is. I don't know if it was during when they were filming this, or if they were prepping the film this, because I know what they were filming some of the first episode the scene when John deniro's fly off on the dragons, and they go and kiss kissy drug on gives John the local, like why you kissing my mom typing? When you're on notice. Fielding when they were filming that, that was one of the early early scenes that they were filming and they. Where they filmed it is like extremely cold and snowy and during the production of this season, because their main production is house in Belfast Ireland. It just so happened that the same time they're trying to fill, you know, this epic battle ever put on, like film, ever. And over this extensive shooting time these fifty five nights that it just happened in Ireland, and in, in the UK that they had the worst, snow and ice never had in thirty five years. Oh, yeah. Never heard about that. Yes. Winter is literally Comey yet. Like it was like, yeah, the tire cities closed down. And they couldn't fill outside because it was dangerous to be outside. So they try to film what they could sets inside. But then they couldn't open the doors to like take stuff out of the sets because today. It's like trying to film, you know, it centrally six feature length TV episodes. I o n has the worst by has had in over three decades. Crazy. But. I mean, the whole self is, is really cool. It was really interesting to watch a, oh, different characters pair off in their fighting styles. Everything. Like are yet. Got that cool weapon again remade for her, which really, you know, obviously fit to the fighting style that she developed when she was trading. Faceless person. And then eventually, she lost it. Why whites? But that didn't that didn't matter much in the end. But it was interesting to see who, who did what and who did it because you would assume that John stow would have been the hero because that's what John snow has done through the, the rest of the series of, you know, he's kind of been this, you know, facto leader trying to always do the right thing and be night, shining Arbor. And at the end of the day, or at least episode he really didn't do diddly squat. He ended up getting pin to pin in a corner. Undeb dragon. Though. I mean when the Nike arrived, it was just kind of even with the whites and the sheer number of them. They were Crossley number the kid comes and he literally brings store. So the, you know, they can't see John John heiress or on their respective dragons, and they end up crashing into each other because it gets see. Yeah, they can't hear people yelling orders and that sort of thing and, you know, we do this point where, you know, the there is has the night king inner sight as she has drug on, you know, shoot fire on does absolutely nothing. And the night came just this little smirk on his face it, it's creepy. Creepy. He's like, yeah. Now it he gonna do. Play in the Hugh. Yes. Plan you for you as not gonna work. No, I don't think five rounds reference going to work on, you know. And you know we the John gets in the visited of Katie think they're gonna have like this, you know. One on one like fight that I keep those you know, that thing like. Please do you do to be. They just arm raising thing. I had totally not thought about the fact that it is point there so many people dead, and that they could be reanimated. People started opening their eyes long. Oh, crap. It's like before his episode. I remember that he could do that. Like, oh, that's going to happen. Like totally forgot. It's. Happily. Yeah. Like this point like we've lost. So we lost the people like at this point, like. There's a bunch of author, Aki, the died that, that I wave lay on a more Mont has died. She took down the, the big giant of the process, which was pretty bad as sucker. Right. The I. Oh. So, you know, we had a couple of recognizable people die, that like this is like opening their blue like, oh, crap. And then you got the people down in the crypts Edda dead, bodies, the crip start getting kidding. I, I. Audible like right before the episode. Like this is why go into the crypt is a bad idea. I didn't think about it. I just I just thought you know, it was a Crips or probably like one million one way out. So if they get trapped or script. Like if there's fires something like the Vagit even think about the fact that they're dead bodies in the crypts that could be taught by the. To get a key ending. Yeah. So has just oh my goodness. The whole thing, which is absolutely bomb cours. But then our area. Oh, so cool. So cool, you know, her her meeting with a Melander in. Yeah. Essentially continuing the conversation they had so many seasons ago. About the is aria which forever and her emphasis on blue eyes and. It's like what did we say that the God of death? Oh, gold starred aria stark savior, winter fell with that, that s MOU with the pa- cat's paw dagger taken out the night. K- prayer just sat there. One point like brands are the tree brand is in his chair. He's got theon and some of the iron board. And they're just kind of hanging out. Brands like I'm gonna go now. Unlike wear. Oh. I like how they like the kind of left it at the end of that, so that we weren't entirely shore on, who was actually dead. Yeah. Oh, we don't really get proper like who do we actually lose until the following episode? But. At least the ones that are recognizable, because I mean, there's a crap ton dead bodies. They haven't a bird in the in the next episode, but, you know, we lost a bunch of the doctor. Aki. Young miscellaneous soldiers men, women promise children, toilet Liana more Mont as we mention the younger joy wish he went down. Yeah. In a blaze of glory, which for the on is good. Considering what he had all been through. What is faced? Only when he had that realization that he knew he wasn't gonna survive when ninety popped up of thing. But it was good that, you know, he went he went out proud because he felt so much regrets to everything that he did. You know making it look like he had he had killed, you know, a couple of star children when reality he didn't, and, you know, for. For brand to, you know be like no. Yeah. This the dead exactly you need to do. So the end up here and you're good, man, the great joy, like all, so sweet. And we lost a bear. Darian. And then Giora more Mont to also went out exactly the way he wanted to defending to their as he would. He would rather die to make sure that she lives. And that's exactly what he did amend Mela. Sandra was essentially the last casualty, but she was not killed by anyone. She is Julie just succumb to her age. So. Don't care. Becky, how old she is like we get. So supposed to be like nine hundred something years old. Like she's supposed to be dick Yetlis old. Really only hope foam choice Guan of. I remember what sees it like the when she was died. Yeah. It glimpse like yeah. Yes. She's, she's ridiculously while she was ridiculous. She's dead. Now. So, so with this battle. The weird out the house more Mont is now extinct 'cause Giora Ileana were the lesson by members of that house. This point with bergdahl. Daria middle. Saunder dotting, Arias killers is doubt four people. Seriously, the mountain ill in painting and the hound. Supposedly de indeed knew that aria was to be the one to kill the night king for, like, three years. Though, even though apparently kit Harrington, pause surprise initially pissed off. He was talking to kill off and I will come on now. Originally Giora was supposed to survive. They originally planted for plane for him to survive. But then they realize that did not make sense as far as the today. Sorry. Vivey. And even seen in the final episode of. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, yes. Well, I think they had it. Have to find the video, there's someone to explains that how it was supposed to work throughout the rest of the, the seas, lots like find put the show. But yeah, so Giora was supposed to survive. And then he would have died. During the sacking of king's landing, I think, so he's still died by the end of the season. Episode four, which was called the last of the Starks in this, this one, the body count is not nearly as high as far as numbers of, but they're very significant deaths. Which tilt the scales in? Not in Danny's favor. So, so this is the aftermath of belong night with them burning all the dead bodies. So we see Sohn's of say goodbye to the on, and we see Danny say goodbye to Giora. Before this, the Pires ablaze. And then we get some. Yeah. We all these people been brought together in winter fell. And now the parties are going to start breaking up again. So, but before that we this party, not nearly as as joyous as some previous feasts, but we still get a somewhat of a party. The, the wild links, definitely are enjoying drinking. Much too. Must John and Danny's dismay. Oh, Danny's, Danny stuck with her tea, which apparently come comes sedate paper. Contrary to popular belief that was not a Starbucks Kaba. Apparently, it's from a Belfast chain or at least shop called paper properly. So if you happen to have a, you know, a not known piracy, but if you happen to have. A copy of this particular episode that couples should be in there. But if you were to go back and rewatch it, I think, all HBO now are each Bogo or whatever the hell's and on the DVD Blu rays, when they come out and the it has been digitally removed. I was not gonna lay exciting at full because I would have a gun into the background. Yeah. Exactly pill. If, if, if the story's interesting enough, you really shouldn't until people start screen camping stuff on the internet. Like, okay, I'm gonna go back and catches time I had time to goes, I was getting the news that they wish credit like really. Fun. It it'll lives. Or some envy you on teams. Have you? I don't remember which congas but I was just from a car, we had a whole bunch of Dante's. It has guy was bringing them solve coffee cups. He has his dresses, Starbucks barista, any had Starbucks cups. He'd written to their full that you can see it written on the compassi. Oh, the storm bore breaker Mona dragons for everyday. You know, the unburned, either solid, Quaeda the, the baba, LA LA LA. Just coffee. Of that was that's a high. That's a high point of. On. There is some there is some fancier is for those of Asia Asli, waiting, Jamie. And brand of tar do give together at least for short shortwhile. That ship sailed for a short cruise. And then the data Jamie's addiction to Sarah say came back, rearing its ugly head. Jamie in. Yes. Leaving and in tears. So busy free. Year-on in. There's the there's not yet. We'll get there. We'll get there. Apparently apparently to get Lyn Christie just to cry like she did when she went Jamie's leaving for Dikla Lacoste Walder's said to her I don't love you anymore. Oh my. It's just getting put out. Yes. So. Like that relationship, you know it burned for a little bit. And it's that it fizzled out and then aria in Kendra having their moment, pre pre battle of winter fell post, battled in ariz- legitimizes him as the son of Robert breath, Barassie in and makes him more to the storm lands and storms in. Which gives Gandhari the, the gumption to go proposed to aria and she, she nicely turns him down. Poor Gandhari, but it's not her is definitely not aria. She's, she's not destined to be a lady somewhere, managing a, a castle poppy babies. That's another relationship that burned. Fizzled out. And it before Jamie leaves Braun returns with crossbow in hand. Threatening to kill. Jamie and interior. But thankfully, Kieran speaks bronze language, which is money. So. Sellers that. Than so, the Jamie Jamie leaves on his island deniro's after getting spurned by John, another relationship that burned brightly and as out fizzle out. She is ready to go and give Searcy what for. So she decides to take off with her dragons, and the, the unsullied offer Aki, and John says, he'll follow behind with some of the, the door of their men. But in the meantime, he tells Sohn's a an aria about his true parentage makes them swear to tell any why of course, stands at turns around and tells Tyrian who turns around hills Farris. After after after the big threat of Zambia king is, is taking care of his back to their usual squabbles. Yes. People by vying for power and moving pieces. All chessboard whispering in corners, and dark alleyways. Sort of thing. So so that we end up back to. Well, no, I Dan, he's going to back to dragon stone and right. So I think that's where she gets the prize is dragonstar inside king's landing right with fired fleet. All the all eventually end up in in key play to get away. So it's like. Did you make them pit stop? I don't remember. We plan on top. She may have. Anyway, she gets surprised by the iron fleet, which was dog. Very dumb on her behalf at this point, though, dignity is her mindset is, is shifting in. She started dot thank clearly, she's starting more with her emotions instead of logic, which he is tried to do for the most part up to this point. So Ray gall, who was already injured from the, the, the battle winter fell gets taken down by your on great joy. With one Khyber scorpions. So that was a sad. The sad to see another dragon go. In in the process, their ships. Danny's, fleet gets destroyed and Masan day gets kidnapped. L. Much to. Let's to Searcy is joy. If if that's a relation. The motion that seriously was capable of expressing. It would be chore. So and should she you're on have a moment and you're on this not a very smart man? That, that doesn't take much convincing for seriously to make him believe the baby. She's carrying his, his any crazy leads the crazy listers pointed. Yeah. But they God lover carry. Plus bonuses, little impetus, heart, try to reason with seats. Almost seems like the Goodson were because it looks like she's gonna have the archers like, you know, fire on carrion, and if she doesn't. Sounds like you got gotta Scott one part of her heart. The not completely black. Once upon a time reference here. She's got one part of her this not completely black in this apart that generally cares for her own children. And tearing tries to, to speak to that time, little part of her heart. And in the end the doesn't work in Masan day gets bedded by the mountains. Masan day of her, though, she goes out with her head held high and. Her brave. Big girl pants on. In her last week. Compare. Yes. Does like ooh. That's good. Like ooh adopted kind of that. 'cause that's definitely that a. Hope with half. She was wanna days best friends. I mean she worked for her, so she was kind of a servant, but, you know, their relationship was more Queen. And, you know, handmade then. They had a they had a very, very close relationship. And then obviously, she in grey worm had a, a thing, so that at sent grey worm into it, not so good place, mentally as well. So that puts us to five which was called the bells. And. This is where everything kind of goes. Crap hits the fan. But them being used. To the surprise. I think of at least not to me. We, we lose Varis. Yeah. Which I wasn't that surprised. I mean he he did exactly what he was said. He was gonna do. Yeah. You told when Dany brought him on. He told her that if he ever thought she was making a wrong decision, he would tell her in Enid, and she doesn't listen, so Varis went into various does where he is like he's the master whispers, you know, he, he hides in the corner, and has his his network of little birds. And, you know, since out messages and does things and beds, people's ears this, that the other thing and finally, after all these years, come back to buy the put. Almost a little dick fury, like you pay the Streep decision. I'm gonna do this instead. So I'll everything is done. This is just, you know, paying for his is your surplus, I guess, duplicity. Oh. So he, he ends up getting getting burned by dragon. But yeah he wins. I mean he was even expecting it to, to a point. So, like, you know, she she, she sentenced him and gave the order. Very calm, but yeah, she gave the order cars and drove on his thing. And I don't even think various even Pete only he said, a word he didn't scream or anything. No. So he took it his interiors moment before, though, before he died is kinda nice, Terry and has some really, really good scenes with people throughout. Peter Dink ledge does not win. An EMMY for this. Is there something wrong? 'cause he's already wanted any four this role before. So there's precedent for it, but Peter dick ledge like acted the hell out of this season. And with lots of different character interactions, you know with with him and Jamie. You know him when Jamie gets captured by deniro's troops and then Tyrian let's go, which is kinda, you know, essentially the flip of Jamie Lee helping tearing get free yet, when he's in prison for, you know, being falsely accused of killing Joffrey. This is simply the reverse of that, in, he Jamie's moment together, you know, him thanking Jamie for actually carrying about him as a as a brother, otherwise you know, tear would've been dead years ago. That, that was a beautiful beautiful. I've been the even the scene were brand gets night, the things that he said there, too. Wow. Yeah. I lo- carrion I've always. Yeah. Oh. So then we get the get the sacking of kings. I think it starts out with Danny withdrawal gone, and it's just destroying like golden company. Which why did we even have the golden company? Doing anything? They didn't drink any elephants, and then they didn't do anything with the people that did break his. He makes the common to about the elephants to like were. Yeah. Like no offense like shame. Like to see some ELS since like you and me both sushi. Gets us. The golden company fight like they're supposed to be like this amazing group of Mike mercenaries. And. Nothing. Nothing. They just they go up and go. Yeah. Did he saw the dragon like, Nope? We're out of your. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's like if at the gate there plug that entrance to king's landing is been essentially emptied of civilians, for the most part. So it's really just full of, you know, being guarded on the outside by the golden copy of the Lancaster army out inside. So, you know, that point Danny Idi destruction dailies doing is property damage and. Not civilians. So it's not that big a deal. And once they get in the dos Raqi air, the unsullied in, you know, the, the, the northern army, John snow. You know, they do a pretty good job of. Taking over, and they get it, they get to the point where the Lancaster men are throwing down their weapons, fierce often shears. He's been the, the red keep, you know, with kind word and she knows she's a wall. After point. She does. But at first, she's all, like, you know, she's like the, the latest are men will fight. We'll fight we'll fight for their Queen until the very last manned, and then we go to them, and they're like, darting weapons on the crap. No. Seriously? You're wrong. She's the relief convinced that, you know, she's like when we've out the golden company like they're all dead like, well, we've got iron fleet like no, they've been destroyed by the dragon. 'cause seriously or Danny learned. After the previous counter with the art fleets that if you fly with the sun directly, bind, you, they can't see common. And sunglasses have not been invented in western hosts yet. So. So it's like all the, the scorpions get destroyed that can't use on, on tro, gone all archers kit, earn. So it's like know. Seriously? We've got these, we've got these, these hybrids, like, no, no, no. Ceasar getting frustrated in a little bit scared. Do we have? What do we have left while I've got a chicken and come conquests? I was like. Yeah, the, the, the hopelessly optimistic part of when, you know, the army starts throwing down their their, their swords the bell. They start ringing the bells 'cause period. Kind of this agreement that, you know, if they if they surrender. The ring the bells in king. Clancy's Lebel, starring in, like, okay, MRs good. You know what we can, we can work with this Danny's ondra gone, and this book on her face? Amelia clark. You could just see Aguirre's currency in her head. Yeah. Just like I won. I won. I got what I wanted I one I can have the iron throne. But then she this is something that is necessarily spelled out as one of the things that I think if you've read the books makes makes more sense. But the having read Keith there, knowing that Searcy is up in up there. And it was her family built that tower. What I came to that part of west rose and to know that, that seriously is up there. And what Searcy has done, you know, teaming up with your on using the, you know, developing the scorpions and injuring wonder, again killing another killing Masan day. All the all these things, it's like it it's, it's just. It was just a girl can only takes much. That's really all there is to it. Like I kids, I don't wanna sound like justifying Davies actions. What happens yell after this point her laying waste to king's landing killing innocent men, women and children? Because at the end of the day, it's a terrible terrible thing she did. But at the same time from a psychological perspective, you know, not a psychiatrist or anything by any means, but yeah, I can I can only imagine that someone can take so much heartache disappointment. You know. Yeah, she'd had her dragons kit, you kidnapped her her children. She had her dragons kidnapped her from from her once she had had, you know, people that she'd freed turn on turn on or not be thankful for you know what she did. They wanted to go back to the way things were with the slave trade and the fighting pits. And you know she the. The does those thoracic calls wanted to kill her says, she has killing them in the process, the assassination attempts. You know, about the, the sons the Harvey and. Yeah. Losing the Syria on to the night, king, and losing reykdal. And well, having Basan having Masan day, the beheaded fry her answer, Giora, you know, da and headaches gone. Back to the beginning with drool games in him. Yeah. Yeah. Lizzy her husband that our unborn child. It's like. She and give eight yeah. Is. He I don't want to say she stabbed. It was it was the straw that broke the camel's back. Really? Yes, she was she could not take anymore at that point. It had gone from I'm here. I want the iron throne because I have a vision for a world to this piece of crap, Lancaster woman is all been my castle being all smoking crap. And he he'll baju. She. Yes, she killed my best friend. This is personal nen, if she been thinking, more, clearly, she should have just gone straight for the right keep and just bird while Searcy was in it. Right. And that could have been the end of it. But no, she decided to lay waste to essentially all of king's landing killing just about everybody, which again. If you've been paying attention, even if you haven't read the books, if you've been paying into the TV series that this was not something that, Danny, this is not like this is a decision that ever fought. There are multiple. Learn more than one seeing in previous season, where she is yelling or talking to someone about how I'm going to go and claim what was taken from me. What's mine? And if I have to burn cities to the ground, I'm going, I will do so. Literally said those words. So all these people are like, oh, this came out of nowhere. What even? Why? My name is desir- just killed my family prepare to exactly. I think I think a lot of it, and I say this having not seen this show that I've seen enough on social media, and I, I have enough of a sense of how people you know, how much they love this character what they expected of her and you know what I think people just kind of thought she was going to be this flawless got his Queen. Oh, she's gonna come in and save everybody takeover thing in a Mike. Okay. You know what show? Have you been watching? I mean who is going to get a happy ending in the show. I mean, just in the last episode you talked about how this doesn't example all these all these couples that you're like, oh, I hope you know, Jaime and Brienne get together aria an injury or, or, you know, all these different things. It's like this is not the kind of show if you want happy hopeful things. Go watch Lord of the rings. Yes. On your is, that's why this is why, and I and I really this is why didn't never get into the game of thrones. Because I like happy endings, that's wending being happy ending so watch once upon a time. Sort of. Tale literally. Go watch some fairy tale. I mean, everything everything is just gonna go to crap. And I'm like that's why I quit read books halfway through book threes. I this is not my thing is I just so yeah. So when I heard when I saw everybody freaking out on Facebook, Twitter, and I'm like what the surprises you? Even want to. It. None of the seasons is your second, happy at me. It's not gonna happen. I can't remember who was. But yeah, I mean, the producers and the writers, they've been warning us, you know, this was not gonna be happy hour after Harry tale ending for forever one but on character didn't even survive the first book, guys. Right for season. So you know, if you're if you're wanting her to come in be the shining. Awesome Queen is gonna take out the, the evil certainty. Stand. She got got squished by a by brick. Yeah. We'll get to sit. Well, it's a seriously here. Feel sir say how'd you get? But indirectly, yeah. Like I I've been team dinner since the beginning. And but I never I never thought that she was going to be this flawless. You know, not capable of making bad decisions, type character. But I knew that she, she was trying to come from a place, her intentions of to a point or good that she didn't necessarily was going about them, the right way. Again, I'm not excusing her her actions, but if which is why I can't be entirely upset about what she did that. I'm not surprised at what she did do. I like it. No. Did it make such for the character, and therefore, I will accept its? Even if I don't like. Still, you know what I was team Danny for ion thrown and technically I was right. Technically she did win iron growing. She just never got a little. That being said, she really got it because Searcy was squish vibrant. But that's not before she was re does not before we got nice showdown between Jamie and you're on. All things considering I, they miss some good opportunities with that will battle. Oh, yes. Especially with your on taunting J about you, like, Ooh, I can, I'm going to be the. King slayer. I'm going to be the one to kill, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna be king. I've slept with you know, the Queen you know. That sort of I've so I so wanted, you're on to say something about put it put me or for Jamie be like. No. That babies lying. Yeah. Yeah. Just to get that last like slap in the face of your. The. So you're on is which. One I was a goner I thought mission today. Yeah. It's like it's like you're on dies, which is good because he's one of the character that is needed to die for while. But he died thinking that he was the man who kill Jamie land, Mr. and the he had gotten to the Queen gotten McQueen preg-. So it's like your guy too happy man, which is that really our wanted. I would rather have died laying there being upset, you know, like screaming Jamie, like, no, you're a liar, that they minor love, nothing like that. But no. Get Jamie and well, we don't get genius. C reunited yet. Keiberg finally convinces Searcy. They need to leave the tower 'cause they're gonna come quads not gonna do Jack squat for them and KAI. They, they had up. We hit as they're trying to leave. Aryan hound are coming and the pound convinces Ardy to leave so they get their nice little goodbye. And then the how goes and then can't you know, he runs into the mountain has brother, along with Searcy in Khyber n-. And the, the mountain goes from, you know, like mindless obeys. Kind of rooted sushi's, every word to know this is my brother. I need to kick, his you know what? Our peak hybrid in which not a sad loss at all. I like how Searcy just kind of scoot by and neither of them say, like a plant. Gain baller like gives a rat's patootie? The Queen is just scooting on by like I'm gonna go now. And we finally get clogging bowl. People have been wording for for ages. Yes. And all this is one of those things that paid off, I think off exactly how I wanted to wanted to go. Yeah, the hound versus the mountain. We get the mountain without all of his armor. So it's mentally Manno and. Or doing is darndest to his brothers. Failing miserable like literally stabbed. Vity doesn't even flinch. And meanwhile, you know, the Valentine's like trying to eyeball saying the previously and almost succeeds eventually they fall through the opening in the wall into pedophile fire where sure they met their doom, which is very fitting that they died together. Hit a tough oil. Clogging bowl Li got it, then we get Jamie and shares, reunited, it Jamie tries tries to get to escape, but escape route is blocked and then they get hit by breaks. Which they died together, which is exactly how they said they were going to, like we came into this world together. Out to go, go out together. I really wish that seriously death had been more than just being hit by some bricks. They, it was a little ethical that dick. Yeah. I mean, it was nice to see her genuinely scared. Yes, and regret full and realizing the consequences to her actions that they've led to this point in her, obviously regretting some of the choices she's made like oh, you actually do have some feelings. You're not a cyber ban, but somewhere but she gets to die in arms of the man that she loves. And that's just. And it's not even because he killed her. It's like they've just they just stand. There is the world literally falls around on them, which. I didn't like I really liked you know, either Jamie to kill her or part of me was like, maybe Jamie die in his fight with your on. But we won't see that, like 'cause always say is yeah. Jamie walks stumbling away injured from your on. And then we see again, you know, he's still injured but he is reunited Searcy. And I was I was kind of hoping that maybe we see Jamie, you know, stumble him you're on. And then we'd see him again. Not realizing that the real Jamie had, like, collapse, where died an aria take his face. And years to kill seriously 'cause that would've been awesome. But alas that didn't happen like Hari is like faceless abilities to come in really handy. There. Stead are you get somebody hours? But then they'll leave. Did you see like those a lot of people making predictions that own up prediction? But like theories that REO actually died in that the White House? They say supposedly was that. The golden companies kept captains was 'cause failed really symbol. Yeah. Is you're supposed to be like death. Yeah. Because it's supposed to be brought from like the book of revelations while you got the four horsemen of the pocket of yes, it's Deppish must right on horse. Spoiler good omens I'd horses or cycles. So say so let's say we lose the comb company Khyber you're on Jaime Serra say about mound. Pretty much everybody planning. We get to the very last the iron throne. The finale this season finale, this series finale, the finale finale. With the fallout from Danny decimating king's landing. Ebbing with her very proud of herself of what she's done. And the death Raqi the sullied very proud of what she's done everybody else. Not so much. This kind of. Part of this, how I thought it was going to cause I chat. I think it was your Britney of predictions go. Yeah. I guess, over diction. Yeah. Like, well, what I'd like to happen. For Danny to show sudden remorse for what she's dawning thing claim temporary insanity. And work with John to try rebuild, king's landing, and move on from what's happened? Like what is actually gonna happen? Is what I said would happen, which Danny died at John. Which was the Killy itself. It was sad. Although technically Danny did win iron throne. She got to it. She's able to touch it shouldn't sit in it, right? She was able to look at it. She was able to look at it. So essentially, she got her vision from the, the house of die. But it was messed much that by by this point when she enjoyed talking like, you know, the, the rage from going on Queen has worn off. But it's obvious that her mentality is not right. Yeah. When she's like she's like, you know, she tries her point about, it's hard to vision something. This ever been made the done before. That's completely Jit. Understandable. But you know, she's like I know what is good. We know what is good and John's like, oh, about those other people think they know what's good days like well, they don't get to. This is like, no, that was Rog answer, Danny. Cancer. But of course we end. Yes, but is sad is that was it was, I think it was more heartbreaking after when she's like all the grounded Rogun appears. Joe God's like mom. Was she? Knows. Drove he's like me. Vom. It's like all. Yeah. And I so thought he was going to John. I did too. And I John Hume gonna get birds. If I was, I would deadly thinking that, like, I'm dead. Yeah. I'm toast. John was dissolved it. I know. Yeah. But the fact that, you know, he didn't burn him. So we still don't have Jon snow is being half our Gary, if he's, you know. Unbearable or not after that scene. Like, that's like, maybe that's why he did it because he because drug on knows he can have that he has that sense. He knows he's have -tarian area there, my because they don't go into it in the TV show that doing the books, but with the dire wolves. The dire wolves are supposed to have a low level. Like psychic connection to whoever their owner is. So, when, when John is saying goodbye to, like, torment Sam Geli winter fell, and he doesn't say goodbye to goes that he has Tormenta take with him. They have that, look at the like, don't pet the dog. They did it. And it's like you know, they're having a moment because they are supposed to have that, that low level, psychic connection, but the dragons are supposed to kind of be that way to say early like psychic, but, like they can tell they recognize targe area. Blood. So that's why John was has been able to approach the dragons and write Ray gall. And like when he was first walking into throat room and drug on's sleeping under the snow and drove, let's pass. It's because they recognized John's target blood, and while you're Garin, so there for you must be cool. So go on head. Let the fact that he took out the iron throne instead. So there is no Iran thrown for anyone to take. So technically, Danny was the last person to have iron thrown. Technically, I did win for like five minutes. Yeah. But. Karen was right as much as I don't like it. I mean, yes, she's Danny had gotten to a place where even John was not going to be able to bring her back from. You know that speech that she made to her, you know, the unsullied the Raqi before that shot, though, when she flies in. And then she's walking out through the doorway drove on sends as Wasilla via. Oh, that's cool. Amazing. I, I haven't done yet. But I'm getting like I wanna get that start flake, my background. My talk on my phone. Yeah. Pets so cool. Who? So maybe. But that the speech that she gives though it is just. In bet to Bittu early civil are to other like fascist type regimes. Giving giving similar speeches about how they're going to change the world. I had sieve I had a flashback to like documentaries history, shadow shows like that seems all familiar. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah, so -tarian kind of wanting of taking his pin from is being handled. Acquaintance. Cut tossing out the stairs. Like, yeah. With us. This is after he finds Jamie. Associ-. Which that was a moment to. Again. Peter. Dink. Ledge. Oh man. That was that was that was just the way the oh, that like those first few minutes of the that leading up to tear in. Finding Jamie is here. She's bodies, you know with just showing the. Yeah. The destruction of kings. I Neo these bodies that aren't even recognizable because they're so charred in the people that somehow still alive. But just just severely damaged either from the fire or stuff falling on them, or maybe trample, you know, because the crowds. That thing. And just the you know, they didn't use a lot of sound. There's not a lot of music, you know, it's just kind of ambient noise. And then, you know, tear makes his way to, you know where he told Jamie to take seriously to escape and finding them in Jehan just breaking down tears of like a. Bravo, so so well done. But that leaves west coast without a ruler. So we have to figure out who's going to be in charge. And apparently, they're gonna try more democratic power. This time around. So we got a council gathering people in, in dragon pits, very similar to the, the grouping, we saw when they're trying to convince seriously about the, the army, the dad. But this time there's a bit more people. But it's essentially, who survived who represents one of the houses of, of western us. So we've got Sam his house Harley. Yard great joy who represents siren islands emier, totally who we have not seen so surround wedding. I don't think. I know it's been almost like I had sickly. Tonight you. It was his wedding. That was the red weddings. I was. I totally different reason. Yes. We remember the red wedding for the red part of it. Wedding part of it. Yeah. So but he is he is a head of the river lands. We've got Robin, Erin, there's essentially the Stark's cousin his, his now, Lord commander of the veil on the. But he also was Louis growing up. I we saw him. Yeah. A long time since we saw him. So we've got the unnamed door. Newsprint's. Like you're obviously from to Oran. Got Sohn's ARA representing the doors guy Gandhari who's now been legitimize. So his, his representing the store of lands, then for, I guess, extra voices are reasons Davos and brio. And Brad start. Well. And after some. Negotiations some talking. Information exchanges that's carrying suggests that branch should be kings, which. I did not expect. But at the same time, I think that was part of me that did because I've said this, I know I've said this, I don't know, if I've said it on the podcast. So I don't think it's it's on record anywhere. But. As we were going into these last few seasons and people making predictions on who was going to eventually end up on the iron throne. I have joked more than once that the end everybody's going to die, and we're gonna end up with a raven on the throne. You have that on chat, though, triumph, you so technically I was kind of right? We ended up the three hydrate but. I, I mean when I said that I meant literally raven, but you know, away, I'm just kind of right? Whoa. The promotion photo facetious, one with dead stock on the ions this Arabia next to him. I think either raven pro but again when his raven, but they, they told us season one. Yeah. But he's not king of the seven km Dempsey's king of the six kingdoms, because the north has become an independent state. Fakes signs star Queen of the north. What I wanted to be Queen Nash. She gets green. She doesn't have to marry anybody. Exactly. Good for. I think she'll she'll do well, she's learned a lot. Brennan, the broken I of his name king of the six kingdoms. With his small council, including Tyrian handed the king, because apparently that's Tyrians punishment for conspiring to kill the narrows. He's going to have to spend the rest of his life trying to rebuild. The country and apparently not mentioned in the grandmasters book. Seattle part of his punishment is he is not going to be remembered in history. At least for the time being. Sir bronze of the blackwater Lord of high garden 'cause he got what cared promised him he is. Now, master of coin. The bronze Ron's floated money. Yeah. Discern advocacy stir Davos master ships. Bryanne every or commander of kings guard Sam as grand Maistre. And if pending father to be as we learned in previous episode fairly Gilead, keeping each other warm. Hopefully it's girl. John. The. So as of this of houses stark at totally are having only great houses multiple members known to be alive was Santa, our brand, and then Ed mirror totally and his son, all the others have one living member as far as Dow Tyrian is the last remaining Lancaster, Robin, Erin are great joy in Kittery, breath, Ian, and John is technically last living tar, Gary in. But that doesn't mean Jack squat because he's now back part of nice watching. Curious already let him know that you and that visiting keep a spot open. I, I. After all of this after everything for the last eight these John's though, as a back on the back on the wall. So finding out his true parentage didn't really mean a whole. Well, technically, he's not the first target area to end up at end up at the night's watch because the, the Maistre mainstream on, he was a target area and he'd give it up his title. So, but yeah, the fact that, you know, taking taking the black essentially means you wanna take their title. They'll lay as you will, you will not marry you not father children, and it's like. Okay. Well, he's done this before. Nothing. He knows how this works, but I get the kind of kinda grew up having nothing no land, so title no any of that. So. But now he knows who. Yeah. Now he knows who truly is. And, you know, I guess that's one less thing that he has to worry about in the back of his head. Niggly around the brain now. So. John's really where he belongs. I don't mean that like punishment. But I mean it really does it is where he is best, because he does not want to be king. He doesn't wanna be king in the north doesn't wanna be king the Howard kingdoms. He doesn't you know. You know, short of being the, the Lord, the high commander of nights watched that's as high as like a leadership role. He wants. Triple there. Yeah. And really now because the night's watch their intention is different. You know. Yes. The, the wall whether that the damage will be able to be fixed is, I guess, to be determined, because apparently they had use magic in the first place to build the day thing. So the, the damage may be permanent. But I mean John always always done best in the north, you know, with the north folk and not just people a winter fell, but the Wild Wings or the free folk, what everyone to call them, you know, he was happiest then when he was with the the with Wild Wings with the grid. And. Do really now the night's watch because there's no threat of a night king in whites. And all that really they'll just be a border patrol lower than anything, you know. You know where if someone decides they want to stir up trouble in that neck of the woods Lobi there? Or something happens in winter fell. Or what are the other northern castle castle black? Whenever the they'll be an easy group of people to call upon saying, hey, there's these people from. Who knows because there's all these other different talent. You know, you know, provinces and stuff that if you look at the map as it is that we've never visited in, you know, haven't really heard about, and then you've got aria to honestly, I think, has the best story completion. Yeah. Of any of them, the one I'm most happy with his aria doing, but she does passes being going on adventure. Yeah. Not being tied down to a title or, or anything, you know, she's out on ship going to see what's beyond the edge of. And who knows who? Yeah. What she'll discover, and what type of people hill showing counter, not all those people are necessarily gonna be nice people in once people realize that there are. Other people out there that they may come into western house. Maybe Stirrup trouble don't need something like the night's watch maybe is a. A backup. So. The only that only public says, I have to omit when they oppose went John told my actions saying, as John, this Dillard, I off. They haven't disbanded. Pantley not. Now, he's back up doors with the free folk with foreman with ghost who finally got his pets. They found a little bit of money in the couch cushion so that John, Johnny goes kick it a, a proper proper realm it. So I. Oh boy. Yeah. Good like a good point. Horrible. Like I knew his yoke on of the C is. Puppy copy. Could to terrify face. Actually. That's it. That's that's game of thrones. It's, it's that necessarily happily ever after every. So people are having a happier ending that others. Now, the only thing my only little quibble that she didn't. Kinda go to his Braun has said, I'm gonna find out where the dragon as the never saw. Whereas Drayton ones. Kinda wanted it all this series like that. He went. Drug onto Danny to I. By place. Valeria. Yes, they he the dragon where the dragons used to live when there were all bunch dragons. Actually land of the dragons. Could've taken her back to dragon stone because taking urge of Leiria say good or who knows where. Bit was driving, so they would have found that out. Yeah. I mean as long as drug on could find food. Keep growing can live for a very very long. But the fact is far as we know he's lasted kind. So once he does die, even if it is an old age, dragons will be no more again. Unless there is the possibility that when there were at least two of them if 'cause I guess, the dragons, a game of thrones are kind of, like clown fish could change gender. Okay. So sickly kinda like the drag or the dinosaurs. Jurassic park. Yeah. So they could it's possible one of them could have changed Jenner, and made it and laid a course of eggs somewhere, we just don't know about it. So I guess there's the possibility for more dragons, but we don't know the of those, those drag aches Danny ended up with clear back in season. One didn't those dragging so. Yeah, they were pretty rocks or will they were dragon eggs, but they didn't. They were viable because I thought they were petrified. So like if there is anything if they've been fertilizer anything. It would not be able to hash anything so. That's thing. But yeah, they, they left so much open that, you know, how much of that will get explained in the, the books once I get written. Or possibility for more down the road. I mean, the the series of they're working on now are prequels, so a lot of the stuff that people complained about I don't say a lot that some of the things that people complain about. With the season, they'll get their answers whenever some of these prequel series start production and get airing a lot of people wanted way Moore's backstory on the night, king and all of that. And the at least one of the series should focus on that is supposed to talk about the previous long night from, however many thousands of years of the previous, what has been. So we'll get some of those as IRS there but. I mean. The fact that I've not read the books, I think baby, some, what works in my favor as far as you know, they didn't talk about this, or they didn't talk about this, or LA Baloch is, I don't, I don't know what I missing because I'm not read the books and less it's been explained in a YouTube video somewhere. At the same time. Oh, I'm just this season kind of like. Yeah. I didn't it didn't hate it. I did. All right. You know, some something's happened that I expected I expected, I expected like seriously, Jamie to die expected fairest at some point. Yeah. I- Sumed for the night king would be defeated. They are the dead would be defeated in some former fashion. Although I thought John would be the one to do it CR. Yeah. So it's like I'm not. I'm not signing petition to have the entire series redone of that. I kind of at the pants at that late. I, I'm just I'm just kind of like you guys are being silly. It is. It's, it's, it's silly and it's a it's a waste of their time. It's like like if you try to make this hip, see if you make everybody happy, cure, not going to. Do I think there's some things they could have done better? Yes. Did it? I liked the longer episodes. But I would have been just as happy, if we had more episodes, and then be shorter. Yeah. Like like I said, laughter. I would like, like if it was like the normal episode on giving does in a normal ten episode season. Yeah. Like a lot like I, I like this season. I mean I had problems oppose but. By big progress. I feel everything this was rushed. Yeah. Yeah. They tried to cram, a lot of stuff even with the longer episodes. There's still you can still only cram so much. With an out either overwhelming people or something in lost because there's too much going on. And I think a little bit of both of that happened. And I think if they had. Slowed down a little. And given each episode room, debris, and give us more episodes. Yeah. Even two more episodes could've made a huge difference. Eight instead of six could have made a difference ten probably would have made significant difference. And then being able to flush out the plot points that they were trying to, to flesh out with us. So why they did it six supposedly, it's dude budget. I don't understand how I have heard. I have heard reports that HBO was willing to give him as many episodes as they felt they needed. So it was kinda down to the, the show runners to say now. We can do it in six episodes. Yeah. It's like I like eating. Do you really want it to be over that quickly or what? It's like I know the DNC or moving onto other things and I know now, the Star Wars fandom is very concerned, but if it weren't ready, we were already, which I will say, I will say this, some of the people who are, who are mad about game of thrones or credit, the state, or some of the same people who are telling all the Star Wars fans chill out, and he has them served orange. Fanta Kona like kinda sucks when it's on when it's on your side. Doesn't it? But. It does what it is. I don't I don't hate it. I'm not gonna be signing petitions. I don't want them to remake it. It's it is what it is. And the fact is, and we've seen this with a lot of TV shows that, that we that we all enjoy. It's like you know it. Shows, just don't really end that will unless it's already planned out there was a thread soon after while while game of thrones going on that I saw this guy was asking, hey, you know, whether what are some TV shows that actually did end well in the last little bit. And I might well avatar the last air bender but that one was planned as three seasons. And that's it. And they have story. Oh, mapped out from them. And so I mean, I think there were some others that came up with a few. I don't remember what they were avatar kept coming up over and over again, but yeah, TV shows just don't really don't really stick the landing for whatever reason. Well, in this case, you know, it's like. You know, game of thrones is, is kind of special and any unique situation because they started at they had all this material, because they had established books and they had Georgia Martin to work with event. They. They. Looks. And even with the books, they didn't wanna do you know a one two advocation of the books because the books are even more complicated than what we've seen in the series. There's way more characters than you could shake stick at. So, yeah, they had to like take personality traits and push. You know, combining Minta DO this that, and the other thing and switch things around and turfing inside out. And then eventually they surpassed the books. But the series was still going. And it's still had Georgia Martin to work with, but they didn't have actual like books to pull from and he could eat it only told them so much because you know, he was to keep some things to sell for the books. Otherwise people are not gonna read books. So it's like if people don't like the way that this ended, you can't just blame. Dean, d this is George R Martin's it's gonna end essentially the same way. So some minor things may change. But at the end of it Arias probably be the one kill. Well, actually, there is no night king in the books at this point. So that's something that gets introduce the books, I guess. Yeah, the aria will probably be the person to kill him. If that's character, the or if there's something similar. Yeah. Some sort of fret that are against killing brand probably. Being king. And Danny is probably outgoing all mad Queen on people and fire blood. I mean, that's how star Gary mantras fire in blood. Yeah. They kind of they kind of have thing about going going crazy. They're the end. Yes, that's what happens with. Inbreeding. Happen with with dogs. Other other edible species in every too much in the genetics can only take so much so yes. This whole this whole talk about pure bliss, like it can be a little to appear. If you know what? I mean goes, yeah, I will say this. If people are are upset, and they want something to watch that is probably going that already know how it's going to end we live time is getting in a show or an adaptation on Amazon of some of the descriptions that they've given gives me pause think even know how this works. But whatever that's finished. Those books are done, so they have they're going to work with narnia is getting a Netflix adaptation. So, you know, if you want to watch something of a base on a fantasy epic. There's some options there, you know, we know the story out there, the books are there, so you can read the books or for the ad uptake come out if I will say this about the time HBO was was shopping for a new series. They were going through a bunch of fantasy series and they picked him thrones. But we'll have time was actually in the running at it was either done or like had maybe one more book to come out and it was coming out because Brandon Sanderson was finishing it after upper Jordan passed away. And I'm like, sometimes I just kind of setback HBO. I mean, I know why picking thrones for the. He adult content. I, I will I will refrain from using my typical. Description when I when I talk about this via game of thrones headboard, they'll content we'll time that's much. So it's like, no, we need to speed sell the built content to our audience because they expect from us. And well that's what you get. Now, this is that was only speculating of why they came thrones over something else. But I just it just kind of made me laugh overall. You know, over this this little bit. It's like well he coulda had something that was already finished or very nearly done that you could've worked from. But. You went somewhere else. And somebody else is going to get it. So. That's, that's what I have to say to people. Well, okay, I have one more thing. I want to say 'cause I if, if you're still kind of sore, and you're like, oh, I need something to kinda get my get my mind off of it. I would recommend a book series, and I'm pulling it up because I cannot remember the title the to save my life. Something storms. Sisters of the flame is second one that was fun or sisters of fire. Yeah. Ariel. Real. There. It is. It's the blood and gold series by Kim Wilkins book three I think, is on its way. Queens of the C should be out. I think this year or possibly next year. Anyway starts with daughters of the storm. And I read it I was a little curious about it. I was a little wary of it because I wasn't sure what to expect. And it's, it's basically I've, I've been describing it as a game of thrones with actual direction plot. Seek sports or five sisters all very different. They all have very different goals for their kingdom or one of one of them's got married off to another kingdom. The oldest is sort of this warrior Princess, and she doesn't take just take crap off nobody and they're all. I mean, they just they all kind of end up on different on opposite ends of, of the conflict, and it's just really interesting. And it reminded me a lot is like this is this is if game of thrones was actually interesting to me. As far as the book goes. So if you, you know, if you feeling a little disappointed or you want to read something like that. I, I was just at first book starters of the storm by Kim Wilkins, second book is sisters of the fire third book coming out at some point queens of the see I'm trying to see what they have Deo expected puppy publication, July twenty second twenty nineteen. So in a couple of months. So. I I recommend that one. Oh and book three is on its way. So anyway, that's, that's my take on it. So there is now a. Iron throne shaped void in your soul to the filled with epic fantasy. Oh, yes. You have options. Yes. And if you still are stumped if you've read all those or wanna find something else. Message me guys. This is what I message. Well, coach in direction of some. Oh. Librarian. Tell me what you're specifically looking for what you what you're interested in. I'll see what I can see if I come up with book list for you. So there you go. Jared said there's enough librarians around wolfing. I'll even all even picture is brain if I think they think, is, he's got a ton of stuff. It is it is. You'll house between the two of us. We'll figure something out. Anyway. So anything to go on mentioned bring up. So. Over. I'll go. Go outside and pick up the rest of your life. Yeah. But is this the sun actually? No, I haven't seen the sun in like a week. 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Fr. Christopher Plant

In The Pews

1:44:08 hr | 5 months ago

Fr. Christopher Plant

"Father christopher yes thank you so much for being on the show. I'm glad to be here. This is super grade. And now you're used to being on camera because of your podcast. Yes very much used to it. I'm even used the same microphone So it's a very familiar environment and and even got the blue light in the background. Which is what. We've got or are conversing clergy podcasts. Or i should say you video. Yeah this is very familiar to me. How long have you been doing those. Podcasts it actually started believe it or not. People think that we started because of the coronavirus shutdowns. It actually started in february so before that started a month before and we had a laptop a little laptop on the table and we had At the beginning we just had a yeti microphone all like in the middle of us three meaning father ricardo and also christopher meyer who was our past year seminarian. And that's that's how we started. And then we added a little bit more. Got some better microphones and then a little bit more. We said we need to do this. Live thing and The fascinating thing also is at the very very first time we did. It was an experiment and it was in january. I want to say and so what happened was I noticed that Because we were already doing these videos. That were prerecorded. But what i noticed was that oh you can do a live one just by pushing a button on. It was a facebook app said. Let's just do it. Father cars sitting at the dinner table of christopher meyer sitting across as well just having a conversation says when we're going to go live and i push the button and then immediately thirty people are on the livestream and it was just complete nonsense. So that's how we started talking complete nonsense so anyway but yeah we've been. We've been doing it for a while. And how long have you been with. Saint bartholomew i i've been here since two thousand sixteen so it'll be five years and August second so yeah. It's gone by very quickly now. Is this your first parish where you're the parish priest or were you a demand like the pastor pastor. Yeah yeah this is actually my second pastor assignment so i was at resurrection in houston and So i was there for five years. So i'm hitting that point. Where hopefully you know. I won't get transferred. Because i hit five years again so i'm hoping you know is. Is that the usual time if you are transferred. Five years really is not the usual time. It's it's really. Ideally and i've spoken to the cardinal. He's shared his thoughts about how long an assignment should be. He said i really. it should be about twelve. And that's we allies to strive for but sometimes that's just simply not possible so what they say is like six years six to twelve years and there was a time when they said let's make it into a term so you have a six year term and then you can have another six year term But you know just because of the shortage of vocations and priests that can serve as pastors and do it well or at least not the parish to the ground kind of a shortage of that so yeah so it's like whatever is needed is is what happens so in fact my predecessor father wayne wilkerson was only here for two years which is extremely short. Yeah that's because another pastor had to leave his parish and so he was shifted over to that parish which was saint michael's and then then i was pulled out at after my fifth year. So did you grow up here in houston. Actually i was born in laredo. Okay and that was we there for a couple years. And then we made our way to converse texas which is basically san antonio and we were there till ninety four and then missouri city which is basically houston missouri city since then and how old were you then. We i was well. It was i fourteen years old fourteen when we moved to missouri city. Yeah i thought you're gonna ask me. How old was i when i was born. Ls zone. you know about nine months far as i can remember is kind of a fuzzy memory. Did you grow up catholic. I grew up catholic. Yeah baptized catholic and parents catholic. Mom and dad Basically catholic on on both sides of of of my family. So yeah so. Did you go to catholic school growing up. Did you know you're going to be a priest. No no. When i grew up i went to the public school with the rest of the heathens So you know it was but it was a good experience You know it probably would have been a better experience going to a catholic school if your catholic school was a good rich a good catholic school. That's rich in the faith of course But anyway no i. I went to the public school pretty much all my life even college because i went to texas a and m. and i was there for about i was studying there from a four years and then you might think that i finished my time there but i was studying engineering. So engineering is like unless unless you're really brilliant and driven us like five years to finish engineering degree so and i was doing co op working for delta airlines. So that means i spent some extra semesters working for delta airlines to get some experience in engineering anyway so then i transferred after four years. I transferred into the seminary and that was my first experience with a catholic education since holy trinity seminary is university of dallas of course and then in and then Of course saint. Mary seminary is university of saint. Thomas connected to that. Yeah okay so when. When did the first thoughts of you becoming a priest creep in was it. Were older than this very very first time was when i was eleven years old and the i had never heard what might seem more common now which is a vocations homily. And i remember this priest preaching in and it wasn't we were out of town. We were going somewhere. I forgot where and we had to make it to masked we were traveling and we had to make the mass somewhere and so we found the spot and some town where they they. They celebrated mass at the time that we could get there. So we show up and i hear the homily and the priest is talking about how young men or boys can be called to be a priest and i didn't even think about priests coming from normal men who were not priests before they were priests hatched out of eggs. Almost like teachers like teachers. Don't have homes school that kind of thing when you're that young that's kind of how it seems yes and so i was thinking to myself. Am i call to be a priest. I think i might be called in. That was for about thirty minutes during a mass afterwards. And then when i received communion i said i'm not called to be priest. People get kinda you know fake by that. It's like a like a you know they. They they kind of turn twist at story but But that was the first time i thought about it. And of course i i didn't rule it out. It was lingering there so eleven years old and then eighteen years old. When i was on my way into college i had really. I was going through some Tribulation because i really really wanted to be one of two things either a foot. Nfl football player or an aerospace engineer. Those are the two things you know. Okay you know and and i wanted to go and become an. I wanted to go to space. So i really set some realistic goals for myself. Only chiba And so i i. Those are the two things. I wanna do now really. Nfl was a big one for me. And and so i. I was playing offensive guard or center in those who may not know with football. You may not know much about football. Basically i was the guy that had to hit somebody else. Repetitively in order to keep that person from tackling the guy with the ball. That's it you know kind of the blue collar worker of football and you did this through high school. I did this all to a high school. I played i played for about six years so junior high all the way through high school and i was. I was semi good at it. I look at a look back at it now. And it's like yeah really didn't have a chance of being nfl age. You know you're you know especially if if you're playing pretty pretty well You think i was thinking. Yeah i think. I have a shot anyway but at didn't come knocking on your door and did not coming out. Did not come knocking on my door. I was you know about four inches to shorts and probably seventy five pounds to light that all makes a difference. It turns out. You gotta have that length of arms and stuff and you also have to be really good. So apparently that's also important. Just a little thing. Called talent of whittle thing called talent and of course You know but what actually happened and i. I think that if i didn't experience this thing my last year of playing football my my varsity year if i didn't experience one thing i don't think i would have been open to the priests in that. Is i got injured In the fifth game into the season so mid season where my artear cruciate ligament to acl ligament in the knee was completely severed. Oh in the middle of a game because of because i was hit on the shoulder by by another player that the of course. The opposing team He hit me on the shoulder and it wasn't a hard hit but is just right to get my needed twists and that was it. Yeah that was it for the season. And i remember being very filling very discouraged and i remember thinking You know at the time that this is just this is just a hunt for me to get over like immediately i was thinking. Let's get the surgery. I'm going to train hard. You know. In fact i did train very hard to rehabilitate got. We did get the surgery. Got a great surgeon who's actually the surgeon for the houston oilers at the time And also the houston rockets. I think he's still is cool. So that's just my parents. I my mother and my aunt they just worked hard to get that. So anyway i i the surgery and then recovery and rehabilitation and it was supposed to take six months. I got done four months while. And i was ready to go i actually i didn't. I didn't mention this but i spent. I didn't spend four years at an. It was two years at a kingsville and then two years at am college station. The okay so And so i worked really hard to get better and then at eight. Am ville with where i was going to. I was planning on playing football. I because one of the coaches was recruiting me to go there and And i was offered a position in that position was to be on the kickoff team. Okay i don't want bionic team. You know anyway but there was more to that. It wasn't just. I didn't wanna be on the kickoff team. It was also a whole sort of journey. I was on after the injury where i was really clinging to the lord really Asking him to help. And also beginning to pray with greater earnestness. And most importantly i began to to to know his his holy wheel for me and that in earnest. I was already doing that but it was more like. I wanted to your holy wheel and you're for me to play the nfl astronaut. We'll become a national one of those two. That's your will. Lord el nino your will. And also this is your. Will you know. It was kind of like that kind of thing going on. But i but i started to really really seriously listen and i think going through that. Tribulation held a lot The lord allowing me to experience that injury so that was the context within which i started to think about the priesthood. And that's when. I think another part of it was when my mother around that time when i was eighteen on. My way into college asked me. Have you ever thought about becoming a priest. And i said i really haven't seriously but i will now and that was a turning point so after that then there was a you know a journey there are no there. Were no the four years where i was involved in the the catholic campus ministries and I always had a spiritual director helping me out. So father john or father. Roger smith Who was the pastor at the time. At saint gertrude. In a kingsville and i'm i'm i'm not sure how he's doing these days. It's been a since. I've connected with him but anyway and and also father peter coastal held him saying his last name right. He's a he's originally from. Poland was the campus minister at the time at ain kings will and then made my way to am and found another spill director. Father david carla. Who's now the bishop in tulsa So he's he was extremely extremely helpful so it was just a wonderful journey was broach directors and and with getting involved in campus ministry That was all part of that environment. That led me to say yes to the lord. Do you have any brothers or sisters. I have one brother one brother michael and he is Forty nine forty. What is he. i. I can't even keep talking my own age. Is he older or younger. He's younger so he's thirty. Six is thirty six and he's married with children and has twin boys and they're ten years old and just a huge handful and You know a a quick funny story is at. My brother was super rambunctious super rambunctious when he was younger. And i i remember hearing that. My mother said to him one time that when he gets older and has children. He's gonna have to just kim and that's exactly what happened at the same time so it's also but yeah twin. Yeah yeah so so you. So the reason i ask about. Your family is Did you when your mom asked you about. You know you becoming a priest or not. Do you was your brother already. Married at that point he has. Oh no no by then. let's see he would've been. I was eighteen years old so he still early. Oh yeah yeah yeah early on. He would have been a twelve twelve years old at the time but he did consider the priesthood for little bit as well so there was a time when he when he was considering it. Did you have difficulty in discerning. There i would say i would say yes In a couple of couple of areas. I think one is just not having clarity immediately. Because apparently the lord it doesn't have the habit of revealing all things you at the beginning so so there was that and and then the other so so and and within that difficulty it was learning how to be patient with him and And to be open to what he to the way that he wants to reveal his will the other part was fear. You know just just fear being afraid of taking the next step And for me the other the other obstacle was was fear of not having a family right not being married and had children so that for me was a real desire. I mean i mean again. I didn't. I didn't really start thinking about it seriously until i was eighteen years old. So that means that during all that time when when a man begins to think about his future and family in east and he's dating and all of that i was that was the course i was that was going on. Have any girlfriends. I did have a couple. Yeah i had a couple of I'd say one in one high school and then one in college. So and the the the woman i was dating in college we broke up In a way that very few women experience in that is because their boyfriend wants to be a priest said it was on good terms and it was. It wasn't because we had conflicts or just were moving apart. Well no. we're going to break up. Because i'm discerning. The priesthood the Was it hard for her. It was hard. It was hard for because we had a good. We had a good relationship with a great relationship and so it was like you know it's not because of any. I mean if if if relationship turned sour you're kind of happy about the break up right and Or or there's a. There's something easy about it. i should say But if it's for good terms it's there's a how did i refer sation go. Well the good thing is that it took place over time. Okay so i was already discerning But i wasn't serious yet so she knew that that might be something. That's on the horizon But then when. I made the decision and i said yeah. We need to go ahead and And this relationship otherwise. I'm kind of wasting your time. And i need to be free to discern even more deeply this vocation. Oh while a tough tough conversations. He's just say okay. This is it. Yeah it was but at the same time she she was a woman of faith and so she was also happy You know about my belt my decision to yes so on one end. She's happy that you're finding your you know your your your vocation but at the same time just like i'm losing my boyfriend. That's exactly what it was like. Yeah yeah no it was it was. It was tough but But the and again. I think this is part of providence. I was already. This was this was at an kingsville. So i was already disturbing going to. Am because i wanted to study because at ain kingsville. There was only mechanical engineering. A name was aerospace. So and i hadn't given up the dream of working for nasa and perhaps moving towards the astronaut program so you know But anyway so. At the time i was going to college station. And so that kinda helped with the break to have geographical so that helped a lot. Did she say something like Because when father david michael was in he had a similar conversation with with his girlfriend at the time. And i asked him this and i was right on the money when i asked him did she say can't use just become a permanent deacon. Say that to you like like it's like pre slight right. I don't remember ever saying that. I remember ever saying that. I a quick funny story though. I was at I was in the air force for awhile. My last year might my last two years of seminary and i was disturbing being air force chaplain which is a priest. That serves the air force right. It's the archdiocese of the military services. Anyway so when i went into the Into the program part of what they would do. This was just a program to get to know the the vocation of being catholic priests in the air force. So they commission you. And then you go through orientation go through kind of a training and so i remember having a conversation with Military chaplain candidates. Just like me who were not catholic piscopo millions and baptist errors e a muslim imam. So we're all we're all talking about this and about the requirements that priests can't be married it cetera. And so on an ask me like they ask me. Well you know want you can do is just leave. The catholic church become a cappella became on a fiscal priced. And then go back to the catholic church and you know get married and then go back to the catholic church and then you know they can make that exception for which. I don't know if that's ever been done successfully. But i told them you know we kind of believe what the catholic church teaches so and it's not the same as what the episcopal ame church teaches. Skirt the rules and it's really. It was really canon law a little bit and it was really interesting. I kind of laughed but personally serious so okay but anyway. That's one thing we're trying to get on the show. We're trying to get a former episcopalian has become a catholic priest. We can get one. we should get. I would recommend father chuck off So in fact he's been on our in our studio at With the conversing clergy conversations. In fact we're going to have him on even more so he's definitely open to it. Okay well get details after father. Chuck yeah thank you and so when you broke up with the girlfriend and you finally decide. Okay i'm one hundred percent in. You still had difficulty though with the discernment process of doors. I did when i went to When i went to am I have found that one thing i discovered was. I wasn't yet ready to make that next up out. It was still a hang up for me and Also another part of what made it difficult. Was that apparently women. Go to an ems well and they also go to the campus ministry. You know So i met a lot of great women And the question was coming back up again. I would like to date this person. And i became friends with a lot of great women and there was attraction there and pull as as there should be great environment like that People of faith at the women that are interested in men to have that practice the faith. Yes oh it was great for that. In fact i know a lot of friends Who who got to know each other and not in are now happily married and faithful catholics right. And so i'm like i am. I really serious about this and So yeah it took a couple of years. Father david condo again. He helped me out a lot. And then just the natural progression of being involved in ministries. So i was teaching bible study. I was helping out with the pro-life ministry I did a little bit of ministry. Visiting the juvenile detention center nearby and so young and then having some very powerful and important pits pivot moment pivotal moments in my prayer life Where the lord was asking me you know will you. Will you do this. And this is all during college. This is all during college so your college was still. It was being paid for by your parents. Yes because you are not yet in the seminary right exactly. So they're are paying for my discernment. Yes so worked out. Well so yeah. Did your family. Have your parents have any difficulty with you choosing the priesthood. I know you said your mom. Yeah she's no. They were very supportive along my mother and my father My mother was definitely saying prayers for me. And i remember with my dad. He was always very supportive. And i think the one thing that was hard for them of course was the separation at the separation. Felt different than from me just going to college and the separation is is you know for one thing was going into the seminary and going in and not being able to visit as much as i could. Yes there is a conta- a more of a discipline of i don't wanna say isolation but i would say Kind of a cloistered sort of environments going into the seminary that so that a man can be free to discern and learn with greater intensity so that was kinda tough and also. I would say that with my dad. He'd he knew he knew the priests at the parish at saint lawrence He was a sacriston and volunteer. In so many ways he got to know the priests behind the scenes he talk to them in the sacristy and so his concern was that i would suffer a lot because he's got the priesthood is not the easiest life. Yes you know In fact i remember the father. John wire god rest his soul he. He turned to me one day when i saw him at the parish at saint lawrence. You're the pastor at the time and he turned to me and said. Are you sure you wanna be a priest. It's a very hard life. Yeah i think he was going through a tough time But you know any wasn't discouraging me. I think he was wanting me to take it seriously. Yes so anyway. So my dad was seeing that and i think my mom i think is just you know. Attachment bombs attached their children. So yeah but again. They are both very supportive. Do you think it would have been more difficult on them. If you were an only child. I don't know i haven't even considered that I would i mean. I would not be surprised if we were to travel to an alternate universe where i was the only child and that being something very very difficult for them you know a because i remember when my brother had a had. His twin boys and my parents somehow they. Da aged by twenty years. They saw the grandbabies. So i mean i could just see the happiness and the energy and they just so so overwhelmed with joy because you're the you're the oldest son on the oldest kind of the responsibility of the oldest son to to pass on the family name right exa- you've got a brother now. Yeah exactly that kind of moved onto him and now that he's got two boys yeah and he's got boys so that's gonna be it you know so there's no pressure on there was no pressure on you. Rusher no pressure. So i i. I didn't have the pressure to lead the catholic church and become episcopalian and then come back to the catholic church. No pressure whatsoever. When you're on your wife come back to the catholic exactly me and my wife would have to become a fiscal plane catholic and so yeah You know an interesting thing too is Excuse me a really interesting thing is that i have a family crest because we have on. My dad's side were british and so we have a family crest. That is passed down to the elder. And so my dad being the elder received this. This crest is just like a wooden sort of shape like that and it's got different symbols. Yes and and so i have it and so i'm thinking well. Who am i going to pass this onto you know yes. It wouldn't be my first parochial vicar. Obviously that would count so it would obviously go to a one of my brothers sons. Well they're twins. So but i asked him which one kate came out of the womb. I sound like a oh now. Now in my mind is slipping. Dj cabrini esau The twins that were born in one was grabbing the gather grabbing the foot of the other. That's that's how we'll go about about that but anyway that's hilarious and for some reason i have this. This fake advertisement in my mind for for priests like. Are you a priest. Do you wanna be married will join the piscopo million church. You and your wife. Can you gotta give that a really cool name too. You know like the like the the ma s journey blowing off on a in a different direction and allowing the lord attorney back to jerusalem. There may be a whole a whole line of law that you could study like canon law expert. You know you have an ambulance chasers lawyers. You can have those types of lawyers. Just try to prey on priests who are discerning or thinking of discerning out her. Or excuse me i think we have really i think we've really have a breakthrough here in this conversation. So we're going to cut that part out right million dollar idea right. That's right that's right. We're going to go into business. I'm gonna to canada. I'm gonna go get my doctorate in canon law. I then we're gonna make it happen all work on the advertising side and the that'll solve the vocational crisis right then and there. You know plenty of men that can be that can be priest and pastors so. Yeah so you said that you didn't finish your fifth year of college. So was it that fourth year. You decided okay. i'm going to become a priest. Well it's technically had. I had two years because of the The co op. That i was doing okay. That expanded the six years. So you know and now that i think about it. I might have been doing that. Just a lengthy amount of time that i needed to discern You know just. I'm psychoanalyzing myself But i was. Yeah i had two years left right about two years. Left otherwise If i only had one year left. I remember even a father. David carla saying to me you know if it was only one year left that i would say go ahead and finish out the degree and then go into the seminary from there just to have that completed a bachelor degree completed. And then you can bring that with you into the seminary in it. A counts for certain requirements. And then it also you can go into what's called a pre fiala program where you're not you're not an undergraduate. You're taking masters level courses in theology and philosophy. And then you get your masters so yeah. Was there a breaking point like one particular point when you said this is. This is the point where i really decided to become a priest. Yeah it was a very powerful prayerful. Noman it was really moments of prayer. Is where these these decisions Or the lord is leading me to make the make important decisions so it was. I can't remember the exact date it was definitely the spring of two thousand or nineteen Two thousand and spring of two thousand two thousand one. I can't remember now. it's been so long. I think it's two thousand one and i remember the just doing my daily prayer and i felt jesus next to me at night as i was laying down to go to sleep and he said i have a very beautiful or precious gift that i want to give you. Yeah and kinda fell asleep with that. Then when i woke up in the morning all the fear all the hesitancy to do what i knew was god's will which is to go into the seminary had just completely dissolved it was just the most powerful freeing moment and so that's when i made the the appointment with father david he actually. It was very good. He was very good and making himself available that very day. A suit to meet with me and yet. And that's what i told him and of course. I wanted to check in with him as well but i told him. This is what i've experienced and And we have already been talking for two years. And i said i think i'm ready to go into the seminary and in that in that huge important moment for me was very important as pivotal right. Life-changing yes father. David says okay. All right well give father. Clint a call in that was it that was. It wasn't like any more discussion for him. I think for him. It was like it's about time or he probably saw it in your eyes. Yeah yeah i think you probably said. I know this look. Yeah this is it. Yeah because he has how he had helped quite a few men before that i mean being a being a priest at a college campus ministry. Yeah i'm sure he's had experience with that. So how was this. After he had broken up with a girlfriend. This was this would have been a couple of years. Okay so no contact anymore with her. No not really not really what. We might have exchanged emails and Just you know maybe coming contact in different environments where there might have been a wedding or something like that. Yeah but that there was nothing more. Yeah you keep in touch with. They're still not really not really. No facebook actually closed my personal facebook account. Really because i it was getting out of hand in my all seventeen hundred of my closest friends connected to me and it was kinda scary because Again this is a personal account. I have a fan page Which is totally malfunctioning. Right now but anyway But the personal account. Yeah in some of the some of the folks were posing some inappropriate stuff and it was on a harry anyway so i closed it down but now there's but i was connected to our on facebook We keeping in touch. But now it's been. It's been years since we've so so at that point when you decided you were all in. There was no call to her saying okay. Sorry yeah this is you know there might have been. I just don't remember. I don't i don't i don't remember. She was at my ordination though. Oh wow she's out my ordination with With her boyfriend cool yeah her boyfriend or husband. These details man. I think he 'cause her at the time it was the man who was her boyfriend would have been either husband or they would still been dating but yeah they came to the ordination. Now you talked about possibly becoming a military chaplain. yeah now. This is very close to me. Because i grew up with my dad in the military so i had a lot of military chaplains. You know. c- c- classes. And all of that and you see them all year the yeah so what. Why did that work out. What happened there. Well what what happened. There was It was really disturbing to see. Is this what god wants me to do. Because i have a great love for the military. I believe in the mission of the military. I believe in the goodness of the united states. The american experiment. The i really believe that it has its roots in judeo christian principles and and i think it's worth defending and Men so i this. I thought about them i would i am. I being called to serve in that way. So i went to the whole. What's called a chaplain candidacy program. So like i said there was basic training. We get yelled at for five weeks. And then there was two two in two weeks of orientation where they tell you about the chaplain. the what it is to be a military chaplain And there are some things that were very attractive about the life But there were some things also that led me to doubt if this is really what he wants me to do so One of those was the was when they showed me They they showed all of us photos of what it looks like going into a field hospital when there is combat. Oh yes and they showed me the images and i got. I got super nauseous. I got super nauseous now. I've seen gory movies. I didn't get sick. Yes but when it's real. Yes i just don't think i could handle it into that situation situation. I mean they're showing people you know. These soldiers poor soldiers that were torn to pieces. And i just it was so it was so hard for me to look at like that. That that scene in saving private ryan where the guys the guys you know giving him confessing. try to it. Yeah and trying to pull himself together and all that stuff and actually some of the stuff. I i saw. Those photos was worse than saving private ryan. Ohio so it was just really I felt very nauseous. And so that was one of the doubts that i had. It's kind of like when i wanted a when i was younger younger Before thinking about engineering. I wanted to be a doctor and then i took biology and i found out that i really hated these long latin words and was pretty much. It actually dot which is ironic. Because i'm a big supporter of latin in our liturgies so anyway but But that was one thing and then it was I did get the chance after. I was ordained to serve a little bit more. And so celebrating. Mass for the trainees at lackland air force base and it was Kind of a kind of a gut thing That no this isn't where the lord is leading me so yeah during that those weeks you said that the you're yelled at a lot so you and a whole bunch of other chaplain candidates right. Yeah they put us together with other chaplain candidates of different faith dominate and Lawyers lawyers and doctors. Okay okay okay. So what they do is they. Had they go ahead and commission us depending on how much experience we have yes So there was a doctor that had you know twenty years experience as a doctor and so they put they incentivize if you if they if they're trying to recruit you so the incentive is you come in as he came in as a as a lieutenant colonel Which is over five. I think in the ranks of if if people are familiar with that lens. There's like standard ranks and so you also get paid a certain yes amount exactly so anyway so Of course i i only had. I wasn't even a priest yet So they gave me the to butter bars so i was second lowest on the on the on the poll but anyway so yeah so we were all grouped together and It was emmy really wasn't good experience so they weren't that easy on you. I mean thinking that you know they were definitely easier on us than what they would do with regular recruits. Enlisted trainees. Because i again when i helped them out there and it was for eight. They'd do it for eight weeks And also easier than what they do with office other actual combat officers The one who who would be in enshrining. I figured if it was just a chaplain candidates are like okay. We can't do the cursing as much we had no. I don't remember there ever being in cursing out remember their first thing So yeah so you've got the you've got the boot camp light. It was because i remember i mean they yelled at us for two weeks straight. I mean it was like eighty the. There's one that i that. I remember that i actually really loved and it was. I was marching in formation. And i was that my my squad actually called a flight in the air force. But it's like a squad. And i and i was leading the march Down the sidewalk outside the complex to get into the dormitory that we had and i decided maybe crack a couple of jokes. While doing that and there was there was no. There is no drill sergeant around okay but there was one watching me doing that. Uh-huh and so he yelled out and commanded me to guide the squadron over to him and he was in front of another another flight. That had like twenty twenty officers right veteran training. Okay and choose me out. And he says what are you. What were you thinking. And i'm just standing there at attention. Silence what are you thinking. Smoking and joking in formation. And i'm standing there thinking to myself. I like that smoking and joking as ever. And i don't remember the rest of the conversation and you some more and they need this but that's the one thing that stuck with me and so i actually have a group of priests that i invite And we go out somewhere you know. We'll go to a restaurant or something and have a few drinks or maybe outside and smoke a few cigars and crack jokes. And so i call. It smokes jokes. You know to this day. So i learned that from. I learned that from the air force. That's the one thing. I learned at that point near done with With that you know considering doing that and then you just decide to go into. Continue with the parish work okay. Yeah 'cause because the way works out is you're assigned to a parish. Dan something gets worked out in the process where where where i would Work with whatever commanding officer. I will be assigned to who health assignments and then they would work with the bishop with cardinal dinardo and then And then from there the personnel board for the archdiocese would look into that and they would say okay. This is how we can work out the assignment. So we know that you're going to be going Looks like a good time. Is you know this date such and such date to go ahead and go in for active duty Especially because they know once you get orders from the federal government than those are orders. And you know you really is not a whole lot of flexibility. So anyway that that's how they would arrange it is in that way. Did a lot of guys drop out with you because of those photos and those types of things with oh You know. I actually don't know i don't know i didn't really follow up with a whole lot of the whole lot of the guys. I know that most of them we got her dane. Priests i think one of them didn't But but yeah. They continued as military chaplains. The priests that i know. I don't know about the rest. That were different denominations. Okay so you go into the seminary and you said that you you got like a master's level program right yes was in dallas. We'll no doubt in actually in dallas You you can do tooth to one or two things either. You come in with a bachelors degree already from your previous life. Yes come with come in with it. In which case they put you through pre theat- with the call pre theology and you take the the philosophy iffy classes that are necessary as well as few theology classes. The ones that you would have taken if you had. Yes exactly. Yes but he come in as an undergraduate then you need to complete the entire degree in what they would a bachelor's degree there at university of dallas and that for seminarians would be philosophy and letters and so if you come in with nothing like you just came in straight out of high scale. It's like the full program for four years is having taken some other classes at at at at the university whatever university were at the look at those classes and then look at which counts towards that degree in. Which don't and that's what you the happen to you. That's what happens to me. Yeah a quick interesting thing. Was that when i came when i came in There of course. Math is part of the degree program for philosophy and letters at stanford university degree. Yes and they were asking me to take more math. I had three semesters calculus differential equations numerical methods and of course using the math all throughout my entire education. He wanted me to take one more semester of math and was it. Lower math or mathematics The philosophy of mathematics or something. But the provost i went to her and she said none you don't you don't even wrote it off so anyway. So how many years were you there in dallas. I was there for two years. Okay yeah to wrap that up two years. And what was your life like there in dallas. You were with some of some of the other guys who've had bachelor's degrees. I suppose yeah. It was a mix of who had bachelor's degrees already. We had some. That actually worked as engineers for example There's something about. I don't know if it's a if it's a trend or something but there are a lot of guys who were engineers or studying engineering. Who ended up going into the seminary which is really fascinating but anyway so yeah we had. It was a mix of guys that. Finish your bachelor's maybe had some work experience. Some had years of work experience. You know the older guys that were going in and then you had guys that were coming in strategy a high school so it was a really interesting mix in zone interesting. Mix culturally to So just folks. That are coming in from vietnam or the philippines or We had some latin american countries and some folks from mexico on do we have us colombians. So yeah some of the seminarians are well deacons and priests that we've spoken to a term that has come up is the term cellist chippers. Oh yes alexander's or catholic. Chasers cassock shaper chasers We also had chasuble. Chasers is also gotten prowlers. Another one of those different terms did run into any You know actually. I did i did. I was surprised by how aggressive the some of the women would be really. yeah you know. It was really interesting The someone invite me out to to to go on a date or they would You know sit right next to me and really struck up a conversation but it was very obvious in a what what they were trying to do. and yeah but it was. That was real. That was a real thing. I will rise. This was like a real malicious type trying to to get a seminarian to lead the seminary absolutely and and to get into a relationship with them absolutely so it wasn't one of those somebody that worked with you at the campus ministry. Then you just gotten close to note wasn't anything like that. I know some of it was was yeah. It was quite deliberate. How do you. How do you enjoy that Well i think first and foremost is to continue to be a man of prayer So continue to have that friendship with jesus Because that's i mean basically giving up marriage is it's not just giving up marriage it's also embracing something else that's embracing a deep special friendship with jesus and through that be a man of service for his church right. That's so that's always been the essence of it. The thankfully i had training being. Am you know this. Ain't kingsville so breaking up with a girlfriend. Am and You know really saying no to two women who did ask me out when i was at. Am so. I had already had that experience. So i i kind of knew how to how to deal with that both emotionally interior early but also how to be how to be smart in terms of boundaries so so yeah that's that's how i navigated it. And of course i would try to be very very aware of my own emotions. What am i thinking. What am i feeling because if you especially if if the woman is particularly attractive and you develop a relationship with her it can it. Can you know things can kind of get out of hand in terms of the disarmament and all of a sudden. You're in this this friendship and and it's really not all of a sudden a formation director. Told me said you don't you don't really accidentally fall in love you know you. You make a decision. At sessile making decision to spend time with that person you're making a decision to hang out with them yes Reading a decision to say yes when they ask you out go for dinner. So yeah so i had to. I had to be very careful about that. And keep boundaries. Yeah so finally. You're done with your two years. Then you come here to houston. Yes after two years going into houston. Okay and now this. This experience was a lot different. Because you're a little more secluded on a college campus. Exactly right exactly right. So you're you're not amongst you know other students so it is Definitely more of. It's very very much insulated Even though there there's still some women that come to the classes. I for some of the masters level theology degrees so and Yeah and of course. We always joke around. It's like oh that person's a patent prowler etc. But the good news is that over there. Excuse me over at saint. Mary seminary there is. There are some pretty strict rules in terms of where women can be in okay in basically. They were only allowed at the academic building an old building. Any the only exception was. And i don't know how it is now but they allow deacon students to come on campus to go to what is called the canteen or they can get coffee you know between classes in snacks etc but the the women who are with the deacon students were all their lives you know. Say nothing wrong with that But anyway yeah. Yeah so you're here in houston for how many more years let's see I was in houston at saint. Mary's for five years and all of this. Is this more intense right. Definitely because you're getting closer. You're getting closer to the wedding day. You know you're you're you're in the super bowl so to speak and so yeah so it gets more intense. As as time moves on in effect at at holy trinity. I remember the language. A lot of the language was disturbing whether or not you should be a priest. And then like the first two years. At least when i was there. I don't know if things have changed. But when i was there the first two years of theology at saint. Mary seminary was about disturbing whether or not you want to be a priest. Okay then after that they said once you start hitting the summer program it's called clinical pastoral education when you go to a hospital in your chaplain in the past year. They basically said you know if you are not certain that that you should be a priest. Then you know you should really. You really need to leave and move on to some other things or take some time out So that's i remember that being being something that was said by the formation directors. The priests that were there was it easier with your where you closer more access to your parents and your family your moving back to houston. Yeah actually i was. I was being not being too far away so i was able it on saturday. For example or saturday's were open So we could we could Go visit family and I remember being able to make it to to spend time with my brother because he would yet his birthday party on saturday and what and what he did for his birthday party is he would have you go out and Have a paintball tournament. So i would go over there and play paintball and come back all bruised up so i just i just had that as a as a memory Now we've always we were always able even at holy trinity seminary to spend christmas with family And also there will be a certain period of time outside of our summer assignments. Maybe a couple of weeks there where we could just stay with our families so there was that too. Did you have a lot of other seminarians drop-off discern out. Oh yeah my class I don't know if our our class might have been the biggest in terms of how many how many of us entered into the seminary entered into becoming seminarians for the archdiocese of galveston. Houston there were eighteen of us. Yeah and four of us got ordained. Wow yeah yeah. That's a pretty low percentage. Yeah as a pretty low percentage. Yeah i. I'm not sure why there was this big bumper crop but that's just the way it worked out. Was it tough. Sales guys leave some of them. It was kinda tough. Some of them I have a good friend of mine. When i best friends that was that was one of them in and it was tough to see him leave But the good news is e happily married and You know we we get to hang out. And and and there's a connection there being a within being a former seminarian and he continues to be faithful. So yeah but it was tough. Yeah some of them. One thing that a lot of the the priest and deacons who've come on the show have talked about or the pranks happened in the seminar. All the franks the franks you share with us some pranks that you may have not necessarily been involved in maybe have witnessed. Did anybody tell you about what. I did at saint. Mary's is our. You're asking the question. Oh no oh okay. All right well this is one of those pranks that can only be pulled every four years. Okay because it's one of those things that people would remember. One of the one of the seminarians gave me the idea. And i went ahead and implemented the idea. This is for april fools where the way it was set up in the seminary of for showers with a showers were public. They were shared but they but they had stalls okay. They had stalls and they had doors closed locked in the end. The showers had curtains. So you had privacy and you had a stall. Yes and so what i did. I used to wake up early in the morning to go running. But before i went running i went in to the to the showers and i turn them all on okay. I use cold. Water wasn't going to waste hot water to turn them all on closer curtains. And then i had my own towels and t shirts etc and i through those over. The size of the of the stall and people can can see that. Oh there's somebody in the shower. They think somebody's in their own. And then i closed. I closed the gates closed the stall doors and was able to reach over and lock them and then i left. I went to go run a home so then there was a long line of seminar. Insulin i got back or absolutely furious. These guys were taking a shower and they just kept taking a shower and they wouldn't leave very yelling at them. You know yelling at nobody. I decided to stand in line with them with you. Know just kind of had tyler my shoulder and just kind of stand in line and just enjoy the drama and in one of the guys was turning the lights off you know trying to get into stop getting to get out of the shower. So long did that last It lasted all the way up to Let's see it was probably an hour. I would say some of the guys just went to different floors and it wasn't until just gave up gave up and so is about. I wanna say it was about twenty minutes before morning prayer. Be in the chapel And so one of the seminary was still there waiting and And i stood there next to him. And i said i just went up to one of the stalls and unlock the door. And he's like what are you doing. You know and i opened the curtain like what's going on. There's nobody there. And then he realized he just broke down laughing. He's he had a great sense of humor so good that he was he was one of those. Wouldn't have gotten really. There was one guy that did not take it lightly you know. Yeah yeah he was. See the so angry. i was like. Oh well yeah were there any other pranks oh there is there are other pranks i mean. There were some guys. Put stink bait inside of the air conditioning system for someone to one of the hallways. I think it was just kind of separate. They put stink baits on the you use the catch catfish. Yes oh so they would do that. along with that last i don't i don't i don't even remember because they didn't do it to our hallway thankfully so it would likely to alaska good time The that for some reason that's the only other prank. they might have put saran. Wrap on the toilets some stuff like that. There was an idea that someone had. Because i was in charge of the bells. And you know the bells that would ring to let the seminarians not go into the chapel etc and it the the controls for the bells. There was a box that what you would use to time certain tunes but also had a keyboard and this was the same guy. Told me to lock the stalls. He said that would be good but what he told me to do. Was to play The darth vader from star wars. The wake everybody up and so the empire march the empire. And so. But i chickened out. I chickened out was going to be another seminary. We both chicken nasdaq known. I can do no no no. It just didn't happen but anyway. Oh so if there any seminarians watching they'll the they might have that idea l. Maybe so somebody's brave enough to have -solutely. Hey but don't tell them that it was my idea did you. Did you prank any of the any of the priests faculty. yeah priests were kind of off limits because they kind of evaluated whether or not. We're we're going to move forward. I think the closest that we got to that was we had. We had what was called. newman's night. So all the new guys who came in They can Put on a play or do something for the house right friend and is it was kind of a tradition that we would just do a impersonations of the faculty. And so that's what we did and so we had it where in in again. It's been a while. But i remember that we had a play where it was where the different faculty were members. Were being impersonated but within the context of bible stories. Okay and so. He would reenact bible stories with this with the faculty playing the different parts of the characters in the bible store and so jesus was being played by. Father brendan k. Hill and i was impersonating father. Brendan cahill o. k. And who's now bishop in victoria. Y'all so it's kind of funny to think about the another. One was daniel floors now bishop in brownsville. So we didn't realize that we're Impersonating embarrassing future. Bishops says we were doing that. That's closest we got to poking at them but no direct pranks no direct pranks. No direct pranks. At least as far as i know the actually there's only one other thing I it was at holy trinity. Seminary and Monsignor again another bishop in shreveport He was the rector at the time. and there was this thing that was out there in it was before youtube so it but it was a video that download where it was just a very a still image of a house right. It's like the inside of the house nurse garden plants and just a very peaceful scene own. What you do you tell the person just watch this scene. Watch what happens. You know what. I'm talking about. Kanye pull on anybody. Everybody knows yes and then. There's that the exorcist girl face brag goes out in the ghost shows up and screams and so we did that too Monsignor michael duca. Who came into the computer room. It was a monsignor. You gotta see this. You gotta see this in some what what he's looking at. The screen goes on. I don't like this. What is this. And then the screen comes out and he jumped back a couple of feet and he and he yelled eddie l. and he's like oh i knew i wouldn't i. Can you walked away. But the other seminaries were telling me. Why would you do that. He did that to the rector heart. Thank you never know. You never know so. Yeah but it was. Yeah that's about as close as we got some breaking at least for me as close as i got to pranking faculty. Yeah so. I guess right among all of the yeses we that we've had only one of them back actually really prank. The oh it was that that oh father dacha and his whole class put a statue of moses into the restroom of one of the priests i think he might have been the rector. Oh really set it on his toilet so all that is funny and that's relatively that's relatively benign so big on causing permanent damage vacant here. They were all really quite they could hear it and they could hear him scream so they knew the exact moment that he opened the restaurant soaring and saw statue. That is too funny. So that's created so you would father data the closest one entire class. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah no because a lot of times. It's like the other guys didn't wanna get involved. You know you have some some guys saying you shouldn't be doing these types of things just just that one with the stall. That was it where i turn on and all of the showers and guy got upset. You know that was one of those situations where there is some friction between us. But but we're we're good now. We're good now. The actually become a priest. No actually left. He left in Continued with engineering in his From what i understand. He's married now. Yeah okay for the last time we saw each other. It was all good and so you know this moment. You're reminded him about that. I know i didn't. I should have the next time. i'll do that. I'll say do you remember when you totally flipped out as you didn't get your morning shower. Stalls was ebola. It was three stalls. Yeah i know. I was wasting water. I know But again it was cleaning out the pipes. You can say that so five years in saint mary seminary and then where did you spend your pastoral year. Let's see five. The seminar in i spent my past all year at saint highest fifth house. That and that was father hubert kelly. It was a great experience. And being under the tutelage of keeley. God rest his soul And i really enjoyed connecting to the catholic school that was there and made some really good friends. And i remember really having some great experiences with the prisoners and and getting to know them i think one of the most important experiences of a pastoral year besides of course exercising certain pastoral capacities like like teaching and serving at the altar is also getting to know people in the context of being a seminarian because a lot of people They don't really see a huge difference between a seminarian and a priest. The only wanna call you father like they just you know especially if they see you at the alternate catholic and surplus helping out with things. So so being able to relate to people in that capacity as a as a public figure in the context of a parish and getting to know them and relating to them in a way that's pastoral and also with a kind of sense of being a member of the of the authority of the hierarchy. You know yeah so that year he spent there. Then you go back into the seminary right. Exactly you're reinvigorated. I suppose oh definitely yeah. No pastoral year was very affirming for me. For for my vocation definitely and and getting back. you know you're basically just ready to get it done. You know third years like you're just pushing through. Nfl here is fourth year is it's it goes by so fast because you know it's almost like the the the months leading to your wedding. Yes that's what it felt like. So where do you Spend your ear which parish your house at saint jerome with monsignor dan. She'll so now also a very good experience so you spent that one going back and forth every other weekend. Yes that one you every other weekend door two weekends out of the month at least and of course all through all through christmas in the whole tridiuum You know we would go there to to do. Different kinds of ministry. A monsignor de monsignor dan. She'll was very good in allowing me to do. A lot of different ministry like they engage in youth ministry there and also to celebrate the baptisms and all can cases preparing children who were doing our cia preparing for their baptism and Their initiation so yeah so that you go back after your your the action. The ear When did you find out which pair she'd be assigned to for precinct or yeah so that is an interesting one. I don't know if you've heard the story What the cardinal likes to do from what i've seen he did it with us in that is you. Don't find out until the rehearsal okay. And he gives you the envelope himself so this is the night before like the night before. That's what i remember. It might have been before the ordination. But i don't. I don't think it was that. I think we would have been too busy getting setup but i but i remember right before ordination. He showed up and he had envelope with with the with the letter and it was the. It was a large brown envelope so that the letter wouldn't be folded. You know so. It was a clean piece of paper with the letter with his signature and save it and frame it and i think that's that was the intention you think that was. His intention is to make it very special. This is your first assignment and as as as your bishop. This is my first time. Assigning you your to your Priestly assignments here i perish. And what was that like did you. And the other seminarians kind of place bets on. Who would go where no we didn't play best but we definitely had our had our guesses i. It was interesting. We all worked it out. You're probably going to this parish you're in that parish. That's the rumor like there was a rumor that i was going to go to. St. vincent de paul with other john wire to help out over there. Nobody saw sacred heart as one of the possible. 'cause i went to sacred heart and conroe. Nobody really saw that coming So but i was very pleased. Because that was with my pastoral your pastor with father hubert kelly was fifth but now is at sacred heart conroe and that was a factor in it might have been a factor in any that thing too is is that the cardinal said Father kelly has been begging for an associate begging for. You're going i knew you so. Yeah so that's good. You think he asked if he asked for you. Specifically you know i i really. I don't remember that. That being a factor. I don't remember that. Yeah but i do. I do think that that was definitely something that they consider. Was that the already knew me and that this will be a good assignment because of that. Yeah which makes me wonder. If i'll get a christopher meyer who's going to be ordained a couple years from now is like it'd be good to have him here knows who knows you never know where we're ends up. Yeah in in. Saint bartholomew is a new priest assignment parish early at least tends to be so we've had father nicholas armez father ricardo ariella. And yeah. We'll see so you find out the night before. Tell us about your ordination because that's your wedding date. That's the wedding date and that's what it felt like what was that day like Again a lot of it was was kind of a blur. But i do remember certain moments. That were very significant. One is that my dad was already ordained a permanent deacon so he was ordained in two thousand seven i was ordained in two thousand eight as a priests so beat you so he beat me. That's why he went in so early. So yeah but he but he was the deacon that was selected for obvious reasons to go up and to call out the names of the men to be ordained what we called out so he called out my name you know and i stood up and said you know you stand up and say present at the. I think it's right after right. After the gospel. I think is when they do it before the homily and And i do remember the cardinal saying Chris even though you're a you're a priest Your dad is still your father. You know so. That was fun and everybody laughed. Everybody left view. I mean i would have broken down. It was a beautiful moment or or being the dad calling his name me. The father A father who's calling his son to be a father. Yeah oh that's yeah in in other important moment for me was a lane prostrate as the people were praying a prang over us and just essentially the holy spirit was pouring over us and i remember laying on the floor my head. I didn't have my nose in the flora head. My head kind of sitting on my hands like this. Okay like that looking down. So i could see the marble and i could see the reflection of the two stained glass windows up in the transept is the heart of marry. The other side is the sacred heart of jesus. They both just converged right in front of me where i could see them. Both ni- and just reflecting on that the beauty of of that moment in it was a sense of a deep friendship with jesus that grew even deeper in that time in that moment and that was the experience. What goes through your mind when you're there laying prostrate oh all kinds of things one is My knees really heard you know. I'm just kidding but yeah it's I remember a couple of things. Number one is at closest with jesus that really sensing that and also with the blessed virgin. Mary under the thing that went through my mind was how challenging this is going to be. Am i going to be. Am i going to be able to do it. Am i going to live in a way. That's worthy of this vacation. Well am i going to persevere. So there are some moments of I guess of awe Sense of unworthiness. Yes and i'm with all my sins. I'm still being called to this to this life so it's an affirmation that the lord has called me a sense of challenge and also fear will but if you're that i had to work through that i continue to work through you know and my precipitation. What was the most difficult part of the whole discernment process for you. I would say the most difficult part was Again going going back to fear. And i think it's i think it's being afraid of the unknown also being afraid that i'm that i'm not going to measure at least for me. You know that that. I'm not going to measure up to the vocation that i'm not going to be the priests that the people need the priests that god is calling me to be so that was. That was a difficult part of of the discernment am i. Am i call to this. Because i look at my defects my character defects. Yes and i'm still being called to this You know so that. That was the i would say the most difficult part to get over in it and it turns out that that part of that becomes a gift. I remember reading a passage from. Oh i want to say it was marmion. It's been a while. But i remembered saying that when a priest recognizes defects or weaknesses or perceived defects or witnesses. It is actually a blessing because it is a moment in which the priests can be open to calling down god's blessings and graces upon himself and find strength not in himself but in in the lord in the he is the one who provides and he is the one who who Net doesn't necessarily call the qualified but qualifies the called. So i just That in that's up. That stayed with me. I i guess that's part of the the whole process. That the the put you through right you said those first couple of years are all just discernment classes exactly. So you do. A lot of introspection and all of that so absolutely. Yeah it gives a a presets not self aware is it can be very dangerous Because you know and we all we all lack self awareness. We we are growing rural. Yes in progress right. We as we get older. We grow in wisdom knowledge and kind of letting go of things that we thought were important and take hold of things that we didn't think were important but they will but we see them as they are now So yeah so. Learning to be self aware i i think one thing. I do remember the first couple of years in the seminary that there was a kind of tearing down that takes place. It's almost like the military. You get yelled at and and tear you down. Then they build you up. That's that's the that's the idea behind. That are like a personal trainer. A personal trainer. Exactly exactly you turn down the muscle and then you get stronger But in the case of especially those first two years because of there is there is at introspection and you have a spiritual director in broach direction. More intense in intentional and also formation director in one of the things that that they look to is is this man is he willing to look at himself as he really is right because if he's not then he's not going to grow and if he's not going to grow he's not gonna be a good priest because being a priest i mean priests aren't they don't come out of the womb ready to go. Yes hatch out of eggs. You know It's like a doctor. Nobody comes out of the womb. Ready to surgery yes So it's the same thing with with the priesthood. And in and i can go on and on about the different areas that were. That's that's the truth. You know in terms of the in terms of the man's mental formation his intellectual formation of how is he as a human being you know. Does he take care of himself. How does he relate to people You know what is how does he. How does he prays the amanda prayer. You know in all of those areas. Every man has to grow in all of those areas in preparation for the priesthood. So anyway so so. Self awareness witness of one's own defects awareness of what has to work to grow or awareness of this. This is who you are in this across that you'll carry for the rest of your life but and but that's not gonna stop you from being a priest but it's going to be a challenge for you. So yeah what's the closest that you've come to calling it quits. The discerning on the closest i came believe it or not I haven't shared this too much. But i have i have shared it was with some of my My prisoners is it was actually the last year Before i was ordained a dull. Yeah really last year. Yeah pretty late in i You know there was a time. Maybe after the end of my to my first two years were kind of. I didn't realize how close i was a Ta- leaving but then i had a really good Silent retreat and spirituality program in omaha that university and that helped me kind of move through it. This was out of nowhere. And it's difficult to describe the essence of it But it was connected to not having family. There was a moment of grief that came up at just seemed the cop out of nowhere. I don't know if it's a cycle of grief that comes out. Because i i understood the value of celibacy. You know. i had been living out at that moment. There it just came up and Yeah it was difficult to work through. But i had my spiritual director helping me out. It was actually when i was a chaplain candidate. Here with the air force that summer and And it might. It might have been connected to being away from the seminary. I don't know it's it's still a mystery to me but one thing was for certain that i persevered in prayer every single day and i remember and this might have been just the way the way god works In terms of how he distributes his grace how he gives constellation and strength and how he withdraws it and so what he did was that he withdrew with. Constellation all constellation. My prayer is experience that i had but i stuck to my holy hour every day. I also spend even more time in prayer and didn't get any sense of direction from him. Okay except that he was calling me the continue praying. Okay that was it just the persevere and then just the power through just power through and just continue to listen. And i was very stubborn. I said i'm going to continue to listen to you. And i'm going to trust in you and but i'm going to leave. You know i was certain was like this. Is i can't i can't i cannot go continue it and get her. Dana as a transitional deacon and then as a priest in this state of mind that. I'm in right now So any game is built. The director was very good about helping me through it. I had a good friend of mine. Who's now a priest who was helping me through. Its zoo so it wasn't just all my own on this stuff. But i remember i went through if about forty days experiencing that and coming up with all the reasons why i shouldn't be a okay convincing myself but i couldn't make the final decision am i spoke director. Said wait until you get back to. The seminary built make any decisions right now. L. there's also a nation principle don't make decisions in a time of desolation you know So so went. Went through forty days of that forty days and then the on the last day the forty first day i remember going. We ended our our chapman candidacy program at saint john johnny seminary in denver colorado and Father chad zielinski. Also bishop now all these bishops He celebrated the mass on the feast of saint lawrence which is the patron saint of my home parish. Yes and he was a martyr. And i remember as father shad came into the chapel in genuflected in his red vestments there was just as overwhelming power And just a small voice saying you know. I wouldn't call you. Christopher to be a priest. If i didn't want you to be happy you know i wouldn't call you to be a priest if i didn't want you to be happy then it was just over overflowing consolation and And the gospel for that day was about Where jesus says if a if a seed falls to the ground and dies it bears much fruit and in that was you know that was it and While in an ice. And then i said yes. Yes i will do this. I will do this for that point on. You were all in and then i was all in ever since then did that. It's that come into your mind while you were the there on the floor. Lane prostrate I don't remember coming into my mind when i was there. I don't remember exactly But it's something that that that i cherish my in my memory. I think about it Every now and then. And it's also the reason why my vocation is so rock-solid it was one of those experiences i think saint ignatius of oil talks about it where the constellation is so strong that one cannot one does not even have the ability to doubt it even if they tried so as one of those experiences So i think that was the gift that was the gift that he was giving me. Because i was what i was asking for. I was asking for. I said i need a fiat. I need the grace to be like the virgin mary to say let it be done to me. According to your word is really what i want from you. Lord if you can be so generous to give that to me and So so he gave it. So you find out your assignment. Yeah the night before your ordained now. Soon your whole family's there. Oh yeah yeah. I even have my grandparents. I had aunts and uncle had some cousins. Yeah yeah so is beautiful. Now you have some time off first before you have to report to your assigned perish would would you do in that point. We had about a month at the time so it was kind of a standard thing kind of lollygag around for a month. You know but but the reason. I think a lot of the reasons is because priests will celebrate masses yes thanksgiving at different parishes So yeah so. I'll celebrated my first mass at saint lawrence. I remember it was my first maso. I totally blanked out before right before the sign of the cross. I think and i had some some good priests who were there like father. Peter was there From eight m kingsville and he looked at me and he says relaxed chris relax. I think you could tell so anyway. But that was a beautiful beautiful mass. Want wants to be the sign of the cross. Everything just flowed from there. Okay so everything flows just getting started. It was just getting started. Just flow from there and then we Then i celebrate a massive thanksgiving at saint jerome and I can't remember the other. there was another place Oh say positive. Of course saint joseph celebrated mass there. And you know in. And i just. It's been so long so i don't remember everything else. But that was the main thing that i remember to do any weddings for friends or about his not too long after that. Yeah yeah and. I still do weddings wedding for some friends. Yeah yeah and can celebrate it some. So yeah what's it like. Doing those. the sacraments of the first time is it overwhelming. I do remember feeling overwhelmed. Ore really kind of Not overwhelming. I never felt overwhelmed. Celebrating the sacraments except that one time that i mess But definitely wanting to make sure that. I'm doing things right And so studying the right beforehand. And making sure i'm taking the next steps and But i've always really felt relaxed. Really know after that first mass a really thought relaxed about doing the rest of the sacraments. I should say another exception would be the vigil because my in my first assignment. Father hubert killy was diagnosed with cancer about six months into my assignment and he had to go to chemotherapy and so his health declined so much that he couldn't do the easter vigil. And that's usually the responsibility of the of the pastor and so my first year. I celebrated the entire easter vigil. Wow i'll never forget his four hours. Why part of the reason was. Because i was kind of checking along the way. Make sure i'm doing the next steps. And so i'm kind of sitting there. Okay all right. So this is the part where he comes up for the confirmation. Okay you know so. Yeah and you you. This is your first time. Doing you've seen it as a parishioner as a prisoner right you know health out past year and yeah that was so i did have the hat and my deakin year but But yeah no it actually being a priest up there being the one in charge making sure all does people do what they're supposed to do and yeah. That is so funny because this past holy week i was listening to A podcast and one of the priests called in he was. He was a parochial vicar. And he said oh. This is an easy time for you. Know parochial vicars. Because everything falls on the pastor of holy week right. Because it's the pastor who has to do all of those masses absolutely yeah for you. It's your first year. My first year you get thrown into the deep end absolutely. Yeah yeah it was. I'll just never forget it. And i i remember him telling me about you know a few days before that it might happen. Didn't really believe it. So i didn't prepare it all so it was like that evening when he said like. Oh my gosh. And then. And then i had to do it the second year as well. Yeah i can't remember it was. Let's see i was transferred out may fourteenth Yeah father killie had actually passed away not too long before the federal that i celebrated Was transferred out may fourteenth so not too long after okay and then. Where were you transferred to saint thomas. More than how long did you spend there. I was only there for a year. Oh that was great wearing quick assignment. So i went to resurrection after that. In in houston. That's my first pastor assignment. White weiss quickly just a year They're the they were desperate. They're desperate for pastures. Okay yeah so. They need needed somebody at resurrection and So they they asked me to go over there. Yeah so speaking of the you know. The pastors and parochial vicars. How much different was it. You know getting that first sinement. Yeah well i mean. I kind of experienced already at sacred heart because as a passer got more and more sick i started taking over more the pastor duties pastor like duties oakland difference was i could go back to him so i'll go back to him You know huby in his living room sitting in his recliner. now let's say So this is what's happening right now. How do you want me to handle it. And he would sell me and implemented at reckon. I have any of that. Yes and you all on me so just basically feeling like I don't know maybe i think about it. Like apparent like parents taking home their newborn baby and they have this stranger in their car. And there's no instruction manual fed baby needs to you know and it's like how do you how do you do it as a parent so it was kind of like that. It's like the past the the parish depends on us pasture. And if you pastured don't make things happen things don't happen. Ah i mean. It's not like the parochial vicar. Who looks to his pasture. And yes you know. He knows that things are going to be okay and and poco baker goes on vacation. They go on vacation in a pasture never really mentally. He never goes on vacation. I think. I mean i step away but i always have to keep one eye on on on the parish just to make sure gotta have my cell phone. You know ready to go You know or some form of communication. Even if i'm out of the country for a pilgrimage. It's like emails air you know so. Yeah but People are asking you on something okay. Yeah there's that and also the the level in the complexity of the problems are far far greater You know when you're having to deal with legal issues and personal personnel. I'll say personnel issues and legal. Issues are the biggest. It's the fires that come up. They make the big difference. Yeah because yes. I'd being the leader of the church. The parish you're also the ceo at the same. That's all right yes right. wow finances. the legality not canon law as well as civil law and Yeah and hr so. They haven't glasses for that in the seminary to be here you for that. When i was here we had one class for that what we had one class for more the administrative stuff we had Three canon law classes. So which is probably which is definitely more important than knowing civil law laws more important because ed impacts people's souls right yes But there was one class that we did take. It was with bishops. God rest his soul and we just they just had different people come in from the chancery to talk to us about some critical things to to know into remember and i think they were basically teaching us things that we needed to know to will to at least keep us from running the parish into the iceberg. You know like one was like the hr person saying okay. So this is how you handle. This is how you supervised and also don't fire anybody without calling the chancery. I am stuck in my head. Don't fire anybody until you talked to. Hr so but. But i remember that. Yeah now you're you're taking the reins at that church. How long were you there. Resurrection at first. Yes yeah five years five years and then how was that. What was it like being there. For five years less. It was an adventure it was it was beautiful and it was sometimes terrifying it was uplifting and sometimes burdensome i mean it was a whole gamut of things I i remember. I had a catholic schools so that was so uplifting to go and visit. The kids that for me was was a break you know. Just go visit the kids you know and talk to them and Do different things for them. Celebrate mass for them. So i just remember that being a big highlight for the parish and i also really enjoy getting to know getting to know the the people and it was also it was a different culture for me You know because my parents at least for perish culture. Not not my heritage. Because i'm part mexican also born laredo. Now gets the folks in laredo and and getting kind of familiar with that environment so in inner city houston in that area who was basically like the go to laredo so that was very familiar but in a parish environment. It's different 'cause. I never been part of a parish. That's inner city that is deeply hispanic nine percent hispanic almost all mexican. Which kind of makes things easier. Actually because here at saint bart's we have hispanic but only half mexican you know so. It's complex okay. But they're you know getting to know them that there is a kind of a kind of a simplicity and a devotion to family and I remember going into people's homes and blessing their homes and having meals with them and Just really enjoying that aspect of being a pastor you know it actually says in kello- that pasture must visit families like so you're telling me to go in and and have meals with people. Yeah i can do that so and but there's a strain. There's attention there as a pastor. In and i was learning that that tension between the administration and being present most importantly in the sacraments and then getting to know the people so that was difficult for me to strike that balance because administration can literally swallow up everything it can swallow up everything because that tends to be that attends to attend to fill that as being more urgent than the other things you know you know so So you know in a lot in either part of it as my first assignment was just learning and having to learn fast and making mistakes that i wouldn't make now but would be typical mistakes of new pasture and you know in really relying on my mentor. Who at the time was He was monsignor shells now. He's auxiliary bishop and he was very helpful to those. I those first years at At resurrection and he held calmed down. Because again another thing is kind of like with parents with an assault again. They're very careful with everything ono. The baby fell down. Did he panic. And now the baby falls and you know if he's not crying that's okay and so you know making making mistakes and those mistakes seeming much bigger than they actually are or certain crises that come up and it's like no no no by now here like here at saint bartholomew if the similar crisis comes up. It's like okay. I i've been through this before we know what to do with that. They're done now. That how the hell it no. I know how to handle it. Exactly so yeah. There's a lot that i can say about my resurrection. But it was just a wonderful time of growth and Gaining experience Get into the people. Growing growing spiritually growing in the in the faith. Because i had to continue to kneel before jesus and beg for his help for disarmament on what to do next and kind of getting used to that that rhythm of experiencing things that can be stressful very stressful. And feeling like it's beyond my control and a lot of things are beyond the control of pastor and but a lot of people don't know that so they blamed the pastor. They don't know how much we don't have control over. You know and also learning how to do right by the people even if they don't agree you know that's the other thing too. That was a big thing to learn. everybody loves a parochial. Because he's not the decision maker right. The pastor can be the bad guy some time so Yeah there's there's so many things. I learned at resurrection but it that was. That's something that that was very important was learning a lot about how to be a good passer and also growing in prayer growing deeper in that relationship with jesus. Now you said you're part mexican. The are you fluent in spanish. I am i employment. But not because i'm part mexican but because the seminary sent me to study okay so you didn't grow up speaking spanish no no. I didn't grow up speaking spanish. I grew up listening to it so my grandmother spoke spanish and i didn't understand thing that that she said talking about the kids in spanish and you can't understand. Yeah yeah probably so. Yeah yeah now. But i. But i learned later on my After my is actually after my first year seminary they sent me to mexico and then they set me again two years later so yeah so that's cool so now you can talk with some of your Your relatives vanished. Did it surprise them. How did you become yet. Did it did. Especially when i when i got back. My dad picking up from the airport first year and i was talking to him in spanish because he knows spanish in fact that's his first language and he's oh yeah that that's pretty good. Yeah so yeah surprise. Yes big surprise in my grandparents were. My grandmother was impressed so she was. Yeah she was thrilled. I've of a very similar experience. Because i'd learned to speak filipino. Later on and when. I've gotten to the point where i could. Actually the way speak with. My dad is different than it was when i was much younger. We only spoken english. But when i finally learned we only spoke. We only speak now and filipino. Oh yeah i language languages languages comfortable you know. There's a connection there with with heritage. I think it makes a big difference too. I think anybody. I think it'd be good for for anybody to learn the language of their heritage for me. It would be hard because i'm mexican lebanese in dutch cherokee and and british and That's just not possible. Wall going gonna learn a mock you know what do cherokee speak. I don't know we'll it out now. You said earlier about Being parochial vicar. How much easier it is. yeah. I heard a joke during one of your podcasts that you directed towards the father rick And i'm not sure. Is this an inside joke or running. Joke about him being a parochial vicar for the rest of his life or permanently. Oh yeah yeah. the running. The running joke is that well. It's it's it's it's serious and also a joke so in all seriousness pro- With with men that are competent. Priests that are competent. Father ricardo. they're going to be may priests three years. Four years max Unfortunately you know like for me i. I was made a pastor too quickly You know now. That i think about it was. I was only a priest for three years. But i thought you know. I kind of held my own sacred heart. I'm going to be okay And the more experience. I gain as a pastor the more i realized it probably would have been good to have been a parochial vicar for ten years. Which which is what the way it used to be. But they're they're in desperate need of pastors right so probably three or four years. We would be would be thankful if we get for another year. So he's been here for two years so i i joke around though. So when i see the cardinal come around for confirmation masses and You know i'm getting vested getting vested and i wait for father recorded to come into this Can say this in front of him and say you know cardinal. I really don't think father ricardo's the pastor. He has a lot of growth. He has a lot of issues here. Early seven more us was be tough. If you have a good parochial vicar someone you can lean on right someone that helps you out a lot. And then you're gonna lose this guy. Yeah you're gonna lose him and and honestly you don't know if the next guy's gonna be able to You know serve. Well i mean not. Every priest is equal in their abilities. So you know at least have the same relationship or the same relationship. The relationships aren't are never the same And so you kind of lose him and you lose that relationship. Lose a relationship but you. You don't have that that person around anymore. I mean i had father nicholas with me and he was just a phenomenal parochial vicar and it was. It was tough to lose him but again he was. He was very competent. Lot of gifts. And now he's pastor was he. Now he's at saint francis xavier cabrini. Okay yeah yeah so after that. Time the five years at sacred heart is that when the move you you mean three years. I was sacred heart for two years. Okay i'm sorry. And then saint thomas more for one year and then resurrection for five resurrection. Excuse me for five years. Yeah then you came here to saint bart. Is that what happened. Yes after five years. I was Came came here okay. And then what decision was made to move you here rather than keep you there let promote i understand the personnel board which is a group of priests that comes together and they offer consultation to the cardinal They they needed somebody here and what they told me. The conversation went like this one pre said you know who could who might be good at saint bartholomew father christopher in karnal not his head and said yeah he would like it there okay. Let's do that. That that's what i heard. That's what i was told how the conversation went crazy. How the whole course of your life as it is just off of a conversation conversation that might have taken forty five seconds so just the cardinals saying yeah okay. Yeah that sounds good right. And what if he says no and he'll say well i'll ask again and so yeah. Yeah wow and how many years again have you been here It'll be five years august five years now. Now tell us about the your your podcast. Conversing clergy yes. Yes so. conversing clergy started. Believe it or not it started back in two thousand eight And it was with father who was with me. Father michael earth men and also father. Jeff read who is no longer a priest. But he's not happily married in the church We said we what happened was we were sitting down at a at a at some place Just having a couple of glasses of scotch and we had these conversations that i don't know it was. It was fascinating that that when people would hear us have these different conversations. They would be so interested and listening in and asking more. You know And so we said you know what if we did like podcast and so at the time. It was literally a an ipod. And yes you cast it through the iphone right so we went to the To the chancery where they have a radio downstairs. Radio station downstairs recorded our conversation. And i think we were talking about immigration because that was coming up for some reason and i don't remember all the details. Unfortunately things didn't go right in terms of the electronics or something. They didn't go right so the sound was completely off so we can use it And then that was it that was it for awhile so then i created a blog called conversing clergy. Okay and then. I invited again Some of the priests who contribute to to writing a blog. But we're so busy so they didn't they didn't bother doing it so i was blogging. So i have one hundred and seventy Blog entries on that one just different reflections. Okay on on different topics and So there was that. And then i created a facebook page and Then a fan page and so have about four thousand followers on that and Just people just over time they just join in. And so i will post the the blog entry or the link on facebook so and that was conversing clergy and i would invite people to make comments and there was one time i did get a a great conversation going. It was about stephen hawking when he said that there is no need for for there to be for there to be a god right. Okay and so. I said my t the title was stephen. Hawking said there's no need for for god. I agree and that was click bait for sure and of course the argument was the guy that he's talking about that we don't believe in the god that he's talking. Which is the atheist. God atheist god when we believe in the atheist god even the god. Of abraham isaac joseph. Okay with god the god of the gaps who explains natural phenomena anyway. So there was one guy who was just getting into and it was great is great conversation so anyway so that was conversing clergy the blog. And then what happened was when i when i got to saint bartholomew saint bartholomew I just started doing videos. I don't know what inspired me to do it. But i just i have my phone put in front of my face and i just started talking about you know different things and then it involves evolved into what we call in at that time. I didn't call that conversing clergy. But what happened. Was i decided it will be great if we can. Just get the brother priests together and we did. These free recorded. Conversing clergy's yes with multiple cameras. We had multiple cameras etc etc. So again talking about different topics And people tend they. They seem to really love them and they will watch them. And then we did. Another of series called priests. We've done three of those. And that's a spoof of cops show is driving around and we would talk to each other about different things and that was just complete nonsensical. You know maybe we'll talk about some serious things about what we're doing you know so there was that that would google. Yeah just a camera following a couple of priests data and that's exactly what we did. Yeah and And so that that was a lotta fun to actually the third priests episode I think we had almost two thousand views on that one for the third one that was with christopher meyer in father ricardo and we were on our way to a staff retreat of early data walls and him so You know for us for our channel you know having almost two thousand views is pretty big So so we did that and now in then we said in at some point and as i as i said earlier we just did that. Random live feed with facebook and we said this was really helpful. People were making comments. They were reaching out. Yes and so then. We decided to to develop it more in that that i had that table with the laptop. And maybe some. We got a couple of better. Mike's and then when when covid hit it was interesting because at that time right before covid hit i already had so much setup already alert. I watch youtube videos about how to use the broadcasting software. Yes how to use. Adobe premiere pro how to You know how to arrange a camera. What kind of what kind of camera will be good for it You know all these different things on how to do it in buying the equipment. I even sound treated the room etc and all. This was being done just in time for kobe to hit and at that it was just what we needed it. It's just what the christner's needed you were prepared for. And we were prepared for it because because a lot of that stuff because all the stores were closed we would have had access to any because as stuff just wasn't being sold but we had it. We had the lights we had. We had everything in place because a lot of the stuff is on backorder until now exactly right along backward lost his on back order so So the carries them in clergy that we because at first we were kind of just doing it just having conversations and thinking you know we probably should have some substance when we have our conversations because i it was just a talking and whole with questions. Do you have okay. Let's talk about that So he said we had that some the talk about you know it's not enough to banter and And then we. We came to the came to the conclusion and and i created a kind of a vision. Statement for conversing clergy is about and so what i say is that conversing clergy is about conversations between the clergy and the laity so that we engage in conversation with jesus himself so that our hearts will burn within us Just like the disciples did on their way to amaze so that's kind of the carrozza of it and another way to describe it as imagine that we are at your house or that you're over here at the rectory. What kind of conversations with you would you like to have with us. You know so. That's that's the movement. That's the spirit of of conversing clergy. And it's an. I let the people know you're part of the conversation so we're going to read your cheer chats. We're going to. We're going to look at your questions now. We can't do every single one now. It used to be able to do that but now he gets you many. They moved so quickly and they move quickly. And it's like oh. I can't i can't keep up you know And i just. I don't see that there. I see a lot of the stuff that that priests do is mostly prerecorded. And that's not a criticism. By the way i guess what i'm saying is we're i think we're filling a niche first and foremost for our parish. So we are directed in partnership with our parish but But also if people want to engage in that in that conversation. Because i think that there's a couple of things that we're doing that are very special number one is that we we do have prese coming together just having conversation about whatever the topic. Maybe yes we bring in guests sometimes laity like last night or a couple nights ago we had our youth coordinator come in and it was like a youth night so that was a lot of fun So there's want that's that's one thing and the other thing is that we are providing Pete away for people to interact with us live which carries with it some risk. You know we have to be careful about people. Say on the livestream. Oh yes and that's why some priests are hesitant about coming on. Because they are concerned about that. But we have moderators. And and i think the risk is worth it In really any any person at any time you have anything live or if you have a conference with three hundred anybody can say something crazy. So that's how town hall meeting or something somebody else something. Yeah i mean so that. That's always a risk anyway So so anyway. That's that's the terrorism in you know another aspect of it is for us to have fun. You know is really meant to be fun. It's meant to be light We don't get too heavy on things If we do have a heavy topic. I'll probably move it to another evening role. Say okay this is going to be more of a lecture style. That wednesday night. It's the half on half conversation. Learn a few things. It's very relaxed. It's meant to be very relaxed in literally You know we don't prepare a whole lot for those for those evenings in order to keep it relaxed because we were doing something where each one was doing a presentation. Yeah i said no limits. Be conversational because again. How often do people get to see priests interacting in a conversational style. We're we're literally talking to each other as we would at the rectory dinner table pretty much you don't know where the conversations going to also disagree. Sometimes we'll say i. I don't agree with you. Father ricardo or father. Ricardo sat on agree with you. Or you know. Let's look it up and that being wrong usually like okay. Well we learn something new. And i think people really appreciate that and of course we have our meantime so people love meantime. Shower catholic memes and and You know in the fun one about that. You never know how people are going to react in and we we try to stay away from the controversial stuff but sometimes people like no. I don't like that one as bud but people really love that part of the one. Great thing about your podcast. is you said earlier. You know as a priest you're supposed to go into somebody's home exactly right and that's exactly what you're doing. You're doing dozens of people at a time. Exactly during their homes through the podcast competing with them. That's exactly yeah. It was a it was a concern. Part of it was a concern about Availability you know. We can't get out to all the prisoners homes in some prisoners can't You know bring people in any way you know. Some are they have problems with handicap. Whatever it might be and of course during the krona virus definitely You know we just couldn't be in contact with each other now you your. You said for five years at saint bart looking ahead. Do you think they're gonna move you again soon. Do you think your hope. Not me just never know But i i don't think so i don't think so again With bigger parishes like this. They tend to keep the pastors in parishes for a longer period of time The saint bartholomew has benefited from pastures. Who have been here for twelve years at a time so if all the junk was your twelve years father may own was here for i mean for the giancarl was here for twelve years for the on for twelve years I think i think father charles domec was here for twelve. But a lot of long pastor. It's and In that tends to be the the The way that that the bishops tend to move Priests around so. I'm hoping i'm hoping twelve years in are really am if and when they do move you what do you want people your parishoners to remember about you. And your time as the pastor and that's that's an interesting question. I had to think about that I just hope the main thing is is that i loved them. That i gave my heart to them out that they can remember that at if if nothing else at least that that i loved them and that in that i helped them to know about jesus for them. Thank you so much for coming in on the show and and spending your time and talking about you know your journey and your podcast and we wish you the best of luck with it. Thank you thank you appreciate. And i really enjoyed this too So having a conversation with you at all and you ask. Yes lot of great questions. And i and i really enjoyed it and i felt really relaxed too. So thank you so much. That's great to know.

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#EERS S10 Ep3: A Suicide in Georgia

The Erick Erickson Show

2:01:55 hr | 10 months ago

#EERS S10 Ep3: A Suicide in Georgia

"Hello and welcome my goodness. It was a suicide in georgia last night. A political suicide. Holy moly Wow okay let let me let me let me just let me begin with the story will first of all. There's actually a store you need to be aware of There's been a terrorist threat on the united states by people close to iran Flight controllers in new york have received messages that iranian sympathisers to get back for qassim. Sulamani intend to crash a plane into the us capital today. They don't actually take the threat seriously. But everyone's on high alert in washington. Dc over the so Keep that in mind as congress convenes today for the performance of leg humping over the president of the electoral college. I don't even know why kellie bother to show up today She says she's gonna keep her word though I just think it's bad for him nonetheless. Let me begin with the story. So thousands of years ago the king of of israel rea- bom he the northern tribes were unhappy and the old men said hey You need to deal civilly with them. And the young men said no kick their butts tax them more in renewable. And listen to the young guys. You listen to the old guys. And and the northern kingdom was formed the the the other tribes other than judah. They packed up. They started their own kingdom. Well the the new king up there had problem it. He said it if the people kept going to jerusalem to worship at the temple well then they would realize that we're all supposed to be when people so he came up with this crazy conspiracy theory. He said we're remember back at sinai. They made the golden calf let golden calf. That was the true religion. The the the the moses stuff that was that was the bad stuff that was the that was the false religion and we need to go set up golden calves and bethel and you'll go and and we need to. We need to go worship there. And the the people who knew yes the the iran-iraq religion that that's that's what we're supposed to do is we're supposed to go worship before golden calves and that gets us connected to galway and they did and they got wiped out eventually they actually were pretty prosperous for a time and you know amos went up there and and told you know god made you real wealthy hoping that you would turn back to him with wealth and you didn't will now he's about to wipe you out. He showed you mercy. Shown you gracia. You haven't repented you come back. You're wiped out. They got duped followed off and they went with the fake religion. Well when you follow the theory and convince yourself that the truth is the conspiracy theory that converged conspiracy theories the truth. Don't be surprised. Tunisia wiped out here in georgia. The republicans in november got fifty one percent of the statewide vote for congressional races combined. They got fifty three percent of the state house races. They got fifty. Four percent of all votes cast for the state senate and then david sheff for the chairman of the republican party here in georgia and donald trump. The president of the united states in various members of congress from georgia toured the state till it everyone The race was stolen The fixes in you can't beat the democrats without call a special session of the legislature. They didn't special session of the legislature. There's no way we can win. And you know what happens when you tell your voters the fix is in. I mean the president of the united states literally stood on stage dalton georgia on monday night and told republican voters the deck's stacked against you. They're cheating and stealing it. Go vote anyway well. The those voters didn't go vote. Merger taylor green is the congresswoman for north west georgia. She's a cute on sympathizer and she's been all over. The place saying the race was stolen in the fix was in and guess what her congressional district which has a massive amount of republican vote underperformed significantly so the worst performing area of the state was north west georgia for republicans. They did not turn their vote out of the state Was about sixty nine percent. Overall on average sixty nine percent of where. It wasn't an election day in terms of turnout That corridor north west georgia. Where the president campaign dalton georgia in the end the fourteenth congressional district was at sixty percents. the republicans didn't show up. Democrats showed up at all. Most the level they were out on election day. Republicans did not show up. This was not the democrats winning so much as the republicans surrendering this was the philadelphia eagles against the washington redskins. That were not supposed to call them that anymore. This was dim giving up hoping for a better day later. There are no draft picks. No draft picks are coming to save you. Republicans and now there will be two democratic senators in the us senate now there is hope there is hope there. There's always light in the darkness and you find the light with bubba. Mcdonald's race bob. Mcdonald was the third race on the ballot. No he ran against a no name democrat and still was forced into a runoff with the new name. Democrat in bubble mcdonald. Got more votes than raphael warnock. Then john off. Then david perdue then. Kelly got more votes than all of them. Why is that. It was underfunded race. Bubba mcdonald ran. No major commercials did no major mail pieces. But what he did is she said. I'm going to keep rates low and we're not going to regulate we're not gonna drive up. Costs anyone. He got more votes than anyone else on the ballot yesterday. As a republican that republican got more votes than warnock or assault or leffler or purdue and his race had nothing to do with donald trump. north georgia. Didn't turn up and vote because the president went up there on monday. Told them all Georgia sucks the governor. Sucks the senators date socks. And the they let stacey abram steal it. David shafer should resign chairman of the republican party because he never mounted ground game He was too busy telling republicans the race was stolen in november and the republican secretary state was an idiot. The chairman of the republican party campaigned against republican interest in the state of georgia. All for some performance of leg company of the president of the united states. I assume what schaeffer will do now is is hill primary. Brian kip in two thousand. Twenty two is the trump candidate. He should resign is chairman of the gop. You know back when you have like normal times in civil people with an election went wrong. The chairman of the party would resign. Take one for the team. Say i'm sorry. I should have done better. You know in metro atlanta. Let me tell you for those who are listening. Now who you're not in metro atlanta. Most of you let me explain to you what was going on. In metro atlanta and the metro atlanta area democrats were identifying people who looked like democratic voters who were persuadable democratic voters and they were signing them up for absentee ballots and after signing them up perhaps see ballots. They would circle back the next week to make sure. They got their absentee ballot. If they didn't they'd figure out what was wrong in is they did. They would help them vote in help them cast and you can say it's ballot. Harvesting about harvest is bad. But that's what they were doing it. And the republicans didn't stop them you. The republicans were doing. They were selling trump christmas wrapping paper. And i wish. I was making that up in the metro. Atlanta area of the republicans were sending emails and text messages. Saying give the president more money for his legal team and by his christmas wrapping paper. Well the democrats were out signing people up to vote. Well done georgia republican party well. Well-done there's not a lot of good news for the republicans. Right now. But i i i will tell you this. It's not going to be the doom and gloom disaster and that's part of the problem here that the republicans ran on What did you hear. What was the message from. David produced team and from Kelly i steam. It was that if you vote for the democrats the socialists are going to take over and they're gonna destroy your lives. You didn't hear what their vision of america was. You heard what they thought. The other guys vision was that they gave no one a reason to vote for them and a lot of people didn't show up and vote for him the republicans also if they were trump voters. They didn't show up for other republicans they stayed home. Donald trump told them to stay home. I mean he. He implied that they should stay home because the was up. The republicans were doing anything to fix the election. It was all stolen so just stay home well. They stayed home. They'd listened to their guy. So here's the problem for the republican party moving forward in the state of georgia. You've got to have suburban white voters and by the way suburban white voters came back to the gop last night in northern cobb getting north fulton county college educated white voters and upper income. Soccer moms voted for leffler and purdue. The problem was that the black vote was thirty. Eight percent of the vote in the reason was third so high was because the white vote was depressed. So upper income white voters came back to the gop But white voters who only love. Donald trump didn't show up at the polls. Well the gop if all of those voters show up they win in georgia and if they're divided they lose and they're divided because the upper income White voters in the north metro atlanta area and the trump voters hate each other. There is a path for brian. Kemp in this though for twenty twenty. Two 'cause he's probably primary. Probably david shafer will do it. I don't think colin will collins couldn't beat leffler but there's a pathway brian because he's gonna get a trump challenge now trump has already said he's coming back. He's going to campaign against brian company. Year and a half the path forward for brian. Kim this is to just make it about as record completely. Ignore trump bubba mcdonald paints a path forward for the gop. Georgie got more votes than anybody else. On the ballot. It was not about trump at all. It was about what he was going to do. And what he had done brian. Kim's path forward is about that when the challenger comes in and makes it about donald trump. Brian kemp will see people come in. Who are mad at the president or agnostic about the president who vote for him. It is very clear that georgia has trump problem. And if you're a trump voter you don't get you don't like it you disagree with it but you've got to recognize at this point. People stayed home because they believed the conspiracy in the lie. That the president told do you know yesterday in atlanta. The president was running ads telling georgia that the race was rigged. That's what the president was doing on election day. In georgia telling people the race was rigged. Will they can perpetuate the lie now because they've just lost both seats and some of you will continue to believe the democrats stolen when the fact is it is objectively true. The race was not stolen. People didn't like the president in georgia. They voted against him and they voted republican everywhere else and now enough of the trump voters decided screw all. We're not going to go vote. The race was stolen. They believed the lie. They were led astray. They bowed down to the golden calf engaged in their idol worship and it led them to destruction at the hands of the socialists to some degree. They're getting the justice that comes died of worship irs and ironically is because not god's smiling them actively but them deciding to believe the lie and they stayed home and now the senate will be fifty fifty with kamala harris breaking tie votes. Good job republicans. You have committed suicide in georgia. Hello there it. Is eric erickson here. The phone number is eight. Seven seven seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five across the state of georgia. Happy to take your phone calls on this Well kelly leffler is planning to fly back to dc today. She's absolutely lost. Can we be real honest here. Because i i've been diplomatic the whole time and i. I very much like kill. Or i think she'd be a great senator but she totally Couldn't be authentically herself. Because the doug collins primary i think anyone believes she is as populaced as she claimed to be or as pro-trump as she claimed to be maybe she is but she came across very stiff on the campaign trail and she. Actually i think Her her ads were not good. They made it all about the president. She she was a stiff personality on the and i've talked to her one on one. We predict. I actually generally like her. And so i don't mean this to be critically critical of her. I think she's actually would make an excellent. Us senator in that time has passed. Now she ran as what her campaign told her she needed to do to secure the republican base and in the end lost the general election. James carville paul begala the democratic consultants who you all know in. Probably don't like i. Actually i know them both. I consider befriends We were at cnn together. Even as we disagree on politics They're very nice people one on one You can have a good time hanging out with them. And they wrote a book. When i was doing campaign management i used to buy every book on campaign management. I would buy out a win races. And they all told you the same things in different ways from different perspectives But and begala said something they actually wrote. A section in their book on campaign management was a short book a great pancake recipe in it. But they said one thing that i haven't found in any other book. Never run to win the primary in a way that ensures you lose the election because your goal is to get elected your goal is not to be a nominee and the leffler campaign ran in such a way as to be the nominee and lose the election Voters found her off-putting. Now in this dynamic. Here i don't think she could have pulled it out. I i mean. I said the whole time purdue was going to do better than left turns out i was right on that the thing i and everyone else missed was how badly the republican turnout would be. Purdue will do better than leffler but he will still lose. They haven't called the race yet but there aren't enough votes outstanding for him. Unless you've got another situation where floyd county or or Peachtree city per fayette county left left ballots out there. I don't think he's going to get into the margin of of automatic recount. Here the problem of for leffler though is that she failed to define herself authentically and she came across as not real. And i can't tell you the number of people who have told me this. I can't tell you the number of people who have said repeatedly that she just didn't connect she just didn't come across as sincere and and that's a real problem for politician you when you don't come across as sincere And this is. This is this. Is the problem here is you. Can't run for election running to win the win. The primary and essentially the twenty one person jungle election was the primary it was her versus collins and she ran a way that used identity politics and trump identity politics to pick off doug collins in a way that then ensured that she could not win the actual run off now. She couldn't win the runoff. We can now see in hindsight because the republicans were gonna turn out and vote the president sabotage the election. As did david shafer the party chairman. Both of them Running around telling everyone the race was rigged. Brad ravensburg was in the tank for stacey. Abrams will it cost him the election. Overall purdue and leffler could've one had The president david shaffer and and these republican congressman from georgia. Not run around the state telling everyone. The election was rigged. They could've one absolutely could one. This was a suicide. it wasn't a murder. The democrats didn't defeat republicans. Repeal republicans defeated themselves but leffler could have been a stronger candidate. And i just think it's bad for him for her. 'cause i really doubt believes that any way to go to washington today and object to the electoral college vote after having lost last night. Raphael warnock is going to be the senator from state of georgia for two years in two years. Republicans in georgia will face stacey. Abrams and raphael warnock. And it'll be. Brian kip and somebody. I don't know who do the. Gop will get to run If it is a person who defines themselves around donald trump they're gonna loose and the problem here is that brian kemp is probably gonna get a primary challenge doubt from douglas. Maybe from david schafer. I don't know but brian kemp is gonna get a primary challenge and that is going to be an expensive primary challenge that kim will probably win and then we'll be underfunded because of a primary challenge against abrahams of the republicans in georgia are sabotaging themselves very striking by the way. I watched the trump rally on monday night. I think i said it here. I saw a couple of people in the crowd. Who i actually know these people and i know they have brian kemp stickers on their trucks or at least they did a month ago and they were cheering on. The president said he would come back and campaign against brian. Yep it is amazing to me the people who can turn on a dime that i used to wonder there's that passage and revelation about how when the anti christ comes you'll do even the church people in the church. I used to wonder about that a lot. How would he be able to it. And i see. I don't think the president's anti christ there's no way but how people have got into this cult of personality were when the president says i'm gonna come back and campaign against the guy who you've got a bumper sticker for that guy on your car and you campaign for him and now you're cheering the president on saying screw that guy. When the president of the united states tells you the lie that the race was stolen. You say oh yeah. It was stolen. I'm going to stay home. I'm not going to vote. I want the socialist gone. But i'm not going to go. Vote to stop them. It just things bizarre. I now understand revelation it is. It's it's unfortunate but that's where we are now I we we need to. We need to take commercial time out here. We got a hard break when we come back and take your phone calls. Eight seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five and what's going to happen now in washington. I'll tell ya when we come back. Hello there you know. As a matter of fact you're probably going to need to sign up for the army of activists because well the legislature georgia's about to meet and They're gonna panic and think they've gotta be even more democrat After what happened last night so you probably need to text the word army. Two three three seven seven seven. Sign up now. Let's go to the phones. The phone number here. Eight seven seven nine seven eric. That's eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five jonathan in atlanta. You're gonna be i welcome. It is truly. You said day in georgia. I have yet to hear one person in. I haven't heard anybody other than me in recent times. Bring this up. I blame one man for this perfect storm that we just went through and have have weathered and lost our roof to and that one man is johnny isaacson. I loved johnny isakson. He was a great senator and there was a great politician georgia but he overstayed is time in the senate. He knew he was sick. He decided to run for another term and he put us in this position where we had two senators running in the same year. The last Last election that he wanted any republican of one. The democrats put up a very weak politician and any republican could beat them at that point and And we wouldn't have been in this position today. We might have lost one. But we still have held the senate i gotta tell you making. You're making a fair point. And i think there's a lot of people. They love him in respecting so much. They don't want to point that out but it was I mean his his. He was of the age where people were assured. He probably wouldn't run again and then he did now. I will tell you this. My understanding of why he chose to run again was because mitch mcconnell and the national republican senatorial committee begged him to that he was going to step down and they told him that with trump being potentially the nominee given what was happening. They didn't think they can stop. Hillary and georgia could be in play for the democrats and so they convinced him. He was the only person who could win. And in hindsight that was very much a mistake And this goes back to one of the rules. I have always had in. Politics is the moment you start thinking you're the indispensable man Need to quit. And that's often the hardest time to quit. But they convinced isaacson he was the indispensable man in two thousand sixteen. He stayed and well. Now here. we go The the levels and again. I gotta i gotta tell you i like kelly leffler and i. I hope that we're not done with her in politics but when she comes back i hope she's herself because i don't think we saw the real kelly leffler and i think that's part of the problem now back to the phones the phone number here. Eight seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven. Three seven four five rainy and rome. You're going to be next. Welcome good morning eric. how are you today. good self. I am doing well Just three three. Quick thoughts here On the whole thing. I think trump did. It was political suicide for to go. After what trump. I think people voted against. There was an emotional decision. Going back to the presidential thing and to this and it just you know. People didn't look at policies. They looked at the emotions of the individual and his campaigning actually did a disservice to conservative values and ideas and estate. But you know we can't control what he has done. It's just it's just it's just almost it's sad it's cra- there's so many words to describe it and you just. I'm just at a loss as to where we are on that. But the other two things i think. A lot of people in the state simply cho- security over freedom. They think they have a perception that what is coming out here. And what's going to happen. Is going to provide greater security going forward as far as like against pandemics against economic downfall and june. I probably earn the same is that that's not true that you can't guarantee those things. There's no way to look at that. It hasn't worked in the past hasn't worked in other countries but still when people and this goes to the third point when people perceive themselves or perceives it over generations. they've been oppressed. they're gonna go security every time security will win over freedom and even you know it's just secure if people are poor and don't have enough to take care of their families even if they're not doing anything to to fix it they're going to believe that somebody coming to say and you can be more secure with me than you are somebody else. They're going to go with the secure hand not with what's proven to be right and that's just that in a pandemic and where questionable ideas even though we're in the economy is going so much bearing anybody would have ever anticipated with the pandemic. They're still perceiving themselves as to be oppressed. And when you have a great disparity in economic income disparity attends to that security question tends to win and and the democrats lose the tactics. The republicans advantage to beat the republicans at their own game when it comes to vote anyway. Okay listen randy thank you. I appreciate that very much I long to get up to rome. I got an email from a guy here from a listener. Who said in a dares ville. So i like go to barnsley. Garden is one of my favorite places in the state. It's up in a deer's ville and you go up to barnsley. it's it's The english garden setting they got great restaurant. Beautiful golf course i loved. I'm i'm horrible there. There's golf course down. The street from me called the brickyard here and make. I need to go join it because my son is just die into just go drive the golf cart. Hit golf balls with me. I'm dying to just go. Hit golf balls in the afternoon If i can ever get back to doing three hours of radio day. I wanna go spend my afternoon drinking beer and hit golf balls. That that that that that'll be that ninette jet subscription that. That's how i will arrive and live in a double wide but go hit golf balls revered beard flying on it yet and i'll be happy but the less i like to go up daredevil barnes the guards there's a cracker barrel when you get off the interstate deers ville. There's a barrel guy since me an email and he's not the first to do it But it got this morning. I mentioned. There's a big sign at the cracker. Barrel don't vote in a stolen election. Don't vote in a stolen election linwood the nut Down in south georgia was running a radio advertisements down in valdosta telling people the election was stolen. Don't vote in the runoff Or at least i A buddy my text me is that. I'm i'm listening to this ad in its lynnwood telling people don't go vote stolen election And i i made he misheard it. But i don't think he did but yeah i mean. Republicans flat out did not vote Because they thought it was a stolen election. They committed suicide georgia last night. They handed to progressive senate seats in georgia one for six years one for two years. So what's going to happen. House is gonna look here. Here's ultimately and this was you know every two years every two years and i used to be a part of it and you will note that i was not part of it this time every two years the rhetoric for republicans is that this is your last best chance to save america by god. It's it's it's it's going to be all downhill from here. If we don't win every two years they ratcheted up further and they did it this time to. I don't want you to misunderstand me and a lot of people are take this out of context. I i'm i'm sure to try to beat me up or to vilify me. Don't take the context. But i do wonder if it might be healthy for some of these people who are convinced. America is over if trump and the republicans don't win to live through the next two years and realized that that's not true. In hong kong overnight dissidents in democracy advocates begin disappearing. The chinese government began arresting and disappearing. The freedom marchers in hong kong. Any of you who showed up at the trump rally on monday night in cheer him on. You're not going to be disappeared this year. I have an internet correspondent who genuinely believed the deep state was gonna come for him. He deleted his instagram account. Generally believes that he state's gonna come for him because of his support for donald trump. the deep state doesn't care that he supported donald trump. I i assure you the deep state care. It's not gonna be the nightmare scenario that so many of you people think. Now you're going to get the background checks. Probably joe manchin and pat toomey of pennsylvania. The republican want background checks on guns. Full background checks and into the gun. Show the gun. Show loophole. so-called gun show loophole. They want that. That's probably going to happen. You're probably going be tax increases on guns. You're probably gonna see the lost. Go back to the local the the local and state taxes the debt deduction comeback. That helps rich people in new york. You're going to see that comeback. You're gonna see tax increases on businesses small businesses and individuals. Go up they can do that reconciliation. You're going to see a regulatory state. That goes left. You're going to see joe biden. Go left with his picks His cabinet picks and his regulator picks. He'll be able to do that now. Joe biden will be able to go further left than the otherwise. Would he'll be able to advance more visit gender otherwise would he'll be able to raise taxes more than he otherwise would the republicans were in charge. He'll be able to enact some level of gun control because some republicans want to do it as well. He'll be able to do all of these things and that's about it. Most of what biden will do will come through executive order and regulation all of which can be rolled back by the next republican president or the next republican congress. You're not going to see the nightmares to the extent. You see socialism. It's gonna come bipartisan. It's not gonna come just from the democrats to the extent you see a green new deal. It's going to come with the help of republicans. The nightmare scenarios were never real and i resented for a while now the republicans aim to enlisted. I used to believe it. I used to believe that. America was over. If barack obama won reelection in america's still here. I used to believe this stuff. And some of you still do believe and maybe for the next two years. You'll see in two years. You get to fight all over again. two years. They'll be another election in two years. You get another go at it in four years. You'll have another presidential election in the same way that democrats have been convinced that donald trump who's never gonna leave He is gonna leave on january twentieth. Joe biden will be prison. The united states will still be here. Will there there. There will be some trickling to the left. But you didn't understand. The nation is trickling to the left because culture is strictly to the left. We live in a post modern christian age Where the illiberal. The the post christian right is as nasty as the left. Do you know. I've gotten a death threat recently and i wish i was making this up. I got a death threat recently from someone who wants to kill me because he says i am obstructing. God's will he believes that donald trump is supposed to be president of the united states and was intended by god's will be reelected in somehow I and others were able to obstruct. God almighty and i should die as a result i am doing. Satan's bidding apparently. I don't know why. I mean i told people go support the guy i've been trying to get republicans elected but because i call joe biden president-elect i am interfering with god's will and should die this we've got nuts out there. God really doesn't care. God cares about you. And all things worked for the good of those called according to his purpose and this election It's all planned out. As part of god's plan we don't understand it. We accepted by faith. We we act we move and free will to do it but god himself maps it all out. I believe that. By faith. And so i think in the grand scheme of things if you were disheartened disaffected by what happened. You should turn to scripture and it says to seek the welfare of the city which you live and unless you're listening to me from washington. Dc you should not be focused there anyway and maybe this is a great way for republicans to remember that and focus on what matters their local level. Focus on your local politics focus or your local homeless population. Focus on on getting voters out to vote. Focus on making inroads with new people focused on making your community a better place. Don't focus on washington dc. Here's the thing as bad as you think it's going to become it's not gonna be that bad we're not going to be like china where people disappear in the middle of the night because they criticised joe biden and the democrats. You may think that but you're nuts. We'll definitely move left. Taxes will definitely go up but the nightmare scenarios the court. Packing in the end of the western. That's probably not going to happen now. The only fifty seats. Joe mansion dianne feinstein christie's number. They've all said they. They want the filibuster. You're not gonna get rid of the filibuster. They're not going to be able to pack the courts as a result but republicans are gonna have to get their head back in the game eventually. Republicans are going to have to turn back up and and right now. They've committed suicide in georgia political suicide in georgia. They decided not to show up and vote. They showed up. They would have won two senate seats last night. They underperformed expectations. Democrats came close to their election. Day turnout i'm going to sound like a broken record day. I'm going to repeat it regularly. Republicans got over fifty percent of the statewide vote for the congressional racist state. House races state races in november and then didn't show up yesterday because david shafer the chairman of the republican party in georgia and donald trump the president of the united states told all the republicans the race was stolen. The deck was stacked against him. Brad rapids berg was an idiot and he was working with stacey abrams steal it all that nonsense. The mythology and the republican voters believed it in stayed home and handed the senate to the democrats. Hello there it is. You're here accent. Y'all i gotta. I gotta give one more shot to be mcdonald here. Because i'm actually impressed with this when you look at it Y- there are democrats. Who say well. You don't understand what happened. His opponent had no money and had new name. I d Yeah his opponent who had no money and no name. Id in the general election and was able to get bob into a runoff. Couldn't actually crossed the finish line with the other democrats this time even though we got into the run off with the last time and that is because bubba mcdonald ran race where there was low-budget race in all did he stuck to deregulation. Keeping prices low. You know had leffler and perdue done that. They might have been able to win. Might have been able to win. Might have a pulled enough votes away from the democrats or inspired more people to vote for him. Because i do know people who didn't go vote because it's like a screw it. Why should i vote for them. They're just as the democrats they run on that they ran on the democrats are bed. They didn't run on the record producer. Did a little more and he did a little better as a result leffler didn't really have a ton of record to run on it. Just just unfortunate here. You know i was. Somebody told me there's a radio. Show hosted atlanta. Who voted for ossoff and for warnock. Even though the guy says he's a conservative because because he asked leffler and purdue to come on his radio show in the didn't. I'm sorry i'm i'm i'm trying to process at my head. You're conservative and you voted often worn out because left for and produced and come on your radio. Does it make you a conservative. Makes you a crass opportunist That that's i can't i. I can't imagine someone who call themselves conservative would do that. But you know all the things. I'm getting a and i gotta tell you this and i don't mean actually i do mean to offend you. This is me offending you. And i i enjoy right now. I got on twitter this morning. And there were a number of people in the atlanta area who listen to this program or my evening program saying well. I didn't go vote. Because i was tired of you insulting my intelligence on radio or i know someone who didn't go vote because they were tired of you calling them more on radio you know. What if you did not go. Vote for your candidates of choice because you were upset with me. You have proven me right. You are an idiot. you are a dumb rear end. I'll put it through that with politely on radio. You have proven me right that you are a moron an idiot a low grade more on that if you're not going to vote for someone because his little old me made you upset aims these mimi of for my candidate because you many cray could still enough stupid. People vote already. We need fewer stupid people voting and to the to the extent that i can play a role in society of keeping stupid people for voting. I am perfectly fine with that if you were stupid enough to believe that. The election was stolen in georgia. And there's nothing about it and as a result us too. I'm not going to go. Vote the president said that the brand burger he think the era you know what you deserve the tax increase your about to get the rest of us are going to be punished because of your idiocy. I mean let's just be brutally honest here. Well let's let let's have a festive season. Let me get my grievance. Pull out my festivals. Pull out and if you did not go vote because you believe that the election in november was stolen and brad raffin burger and bryan kipper. Helping stacey abrams. You are definitely -cially an idiot and when your taxes go up in another three weeks you're gonna deserve it. The rest of us will be punished for you being an idiot But you'd be an idiot will get everything you deserve if you really believe that. The race in georgia was not stolen. I don't care that you believe it. I don't care that you believe. The little huckster in his is edited videos. I don't care that you believe the stuff you are in idiot and i've got no sympathy for you if i'm in sold you it and never again. This is again. that's fine. My job here is to have conversations with smart people in. You're definitely not a smart person. So i don't really want to talk to you anyway. And i'm okay with you not voting. Because i made you mad. Because i think stupid people shouldn't vote. We have enough stupid people who vote look at what happened last night. A lot of stupid people didn't show up and other seriously stupid. People went voted democrat. Last night was a collection of stupid. People voted against their own interest or not voting at all against their interest. I i got no sympathy for any of you. I feel better now. I don't know that you feel better. But i feel better now. I find that very cathartic to yell at my audience so that i'm not really yelling at you guys. You understand the smart people and you listen to me to get even smarter. It's the idiots out there who really literally i have gotten emails and tweets people say and i didn't go vote because you made me mad by insulting me on really good. Don't go vote. you're an idiot idiot. Shouldn't vote. why. Why should i be upset. Why no. I'm glad you didn't go vote. If you're that stupid all right we'll be back. We gotta move on. What's going to happen in georgia now with the legislature. I've got thoughts when we come back. Oh good grief. I'm already seen welcome by way. Welcome in syracuse works in here. The phone number. Should you like to be a part of the program. Eight seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I'm already seen libs in the media. Upset that that kelly leffler isn't conceding. Defeat stacey abrams when you get upset with stacy. Abras not concede defeat. I'll let you get upset with. Kelly leffler for not because either defeat What an idiot The the the these people are upset about that. Good gracious I feel so. Let me let me reset because some stations are just joining us. They haven't started taking our first hour and they should. Because that's what i rape people for being idiots in the first hour. And i'm not gonna do that now. Those of you on the phone. Just stand by. Get to you in a minute. Let me let me recap for the people just joining us. In the november election. The republican statewide vote for congressional seats. Combined was fifty one percent for the state house it was fifty three percent for the state. Senate it was fifty four percent and then for two months the chairman of the republican party in georgia david shaffer and the head of the republican party national league the president of the united states donald j trump and multiple members of congress from georgia colluding. Merger taylor green said the race was stolen. The fix was in the republicans. Were helping stacey. Abrams unless there was a special session of the legislature. There was no hope. And guess what. Republicans believed it and they didn't show up last night. If you're just tuning in you should know. Democrats won because republicans committed suicide. That's what happened. It was a political suicide in georgia. Last night The democrats turn out their vote. In the metro atlanta area atlanta fulton. Dekalb gwinnett cobb henry rockdale they turned out republicans in turn out. The president went to dalton on monday. Night told people the election was stolen. The race was rigged and he was coming back to primary brian. Kemp and guess what that area of north georgia representative merger taylor the fourteenth congressional district area rome floyd county up to trenton dalton. Jasper they didn't turn out the state as a whole it. Looks like turnout out. At about seventy percent of the rate that they turned out on election day that part of the state maybe broke sixty percent. It's about fifty nine point nine to sixty point one percent. Republicans did not show up. Had republican shown up they would have won but chose not to. They committed political suicide in georgia. Last night here is the reality. Up at adair's ville. I mentioned this in the last hour. There was a sign up seventy five tomorrow gardens. You get off in a de ville. There's a cracker barrel if you're headed north from atlanta it's on the right side of the road you get off there And you see the cracker barrel straight ahead and there was a sign when you got off the interstate. There said don't vote in a stolen election. Republicans listened. they didn't go vote. So that's what happened in georgia. Now what's going to happen in georgia. That's that's there's more to it than that republicans are going to do some soul-searching in georgia here. If you look at the exit polling. And i actually think exit polling is pretty good. It's not great. It's way better than opinion pulling the exit polling. Georgia showed that college educated white voters. Move back to the gop by six points. Suburban white people move to the gop but they lost the suburbs because the suburbs have become more Minority in gwinnett county. Jon ossoff Just devastated david. Purdue in gwinnett county because of black hispanic and asian voters mostly black and hispanic voters hispanic voters who voted david purdue pretty significantly in the general voted jon. Ossoff this time black voters. Who voted for david purdue in the role. They went for jon ossoff. This time in that mattered in the suburbs and then the republicans didn't turn out elsewhere. Here's the problem though. It was trump voters who did not turn out so the the college educated white voters don't like showed up for the gop the trump voters who don't like the college educated elitist people. The snobs. they think they didn't show up. The embroiders turned up and voted david. Purdue the the non college educated trump voters decided that the conspiracy was real and in reality was the lie so they didn't show up so the gop cannot win georgia without both parts both groups and that's a problem. So what is brian cabell to do. You know brian kemp is going to get primary now. the president has promised he's gonna come back because the race was stolen. He's gonna come back with us. Stacey abrams your governor governor secretary of state they're petrified of stacy. What's that all about. Did you see this consent decree signed with signature verification. You can forget about it what they have done to your state. I think most people have no idea what they've done to your state. That consent decree these people. I don't know they say they're they say they're republicans i really don't think they are. They can't be like if we want to have a special session because you legislatures excellent. They wanna have us. Why wouldn't they let us have a special session if they want to check signatures and fulton county not in cobb county. We didn't ask for cop. County faces. We'll do come first and then we'll do they do then they never get to foam. Why wouldn't they do that. Why wouldn't they do that. That's a positive thing. Anyway the democrats want to turn america. I'll be here in about a year and a half campaigning against governor. I guarantee the crowd goes wild. So here's the path forward for brian. Kemp focused on record. Brian kemp needs to focus on his record and not make it about donald trump. he's gotta get primary. I don't know who primarily. I don't think it'll be collins. Collins couldn't be killy left for. I don't think it'll be collins. Maybe it'll be david. Shafer schaefer should resign as state party chairman. After telling everyone the election was stolen. There was nothing they could do. He helped suppress the republican state party. Chairman helped suppress the republican vote. He should resign. He'll probably use this to be the trump guy running against running brian. Kemp and i think kip navigates this by running on his record. Listen all those people who were cheering on the president's said he's gonna come back and primary. Brian kemp come back in the campaign against him. They were cheered on. Brian kemp when he reopened the state of georgia sooner than every other state they were cheering him on against the president of the united states when the president attacked bryan guilt reopening the state. There's a. there's a message for brian kip. There's a campaign ad for brian. Kip when the president of the united states was telling me not to reopen the state. I reopen the state anyway. What's the result georgia's got the best economy in the nation. We've seen the low the smallest decline of personal income compared to every other state. We've got more people back to work. We've got more jobs coming. We've got more companies moving to georgia because we open. I and we stayed open and the economy's going strong. Brian jumps got a message. And it's about his record. You know in two thousand eighteen. The reason that brian kemp and stacey abrams had such a close race has everything to do. With the fact that brian kim was not perceived as his own man he was perceived donald trump's man and suburban voters who didn't like. The president voted for stacey abrams. Well brian kemp is now perceived as his old man and it actually helps him that the president came out again with the suburban voters actually helps camp and if he is the nominee and stacey. Abrams is against him. Some of the trump voters by then will realize. Hey i should've turned up for leffler. And purdue i gotta stop stacey abrams now many of them will sit it out in. These are people who set it out before i mean this is part of the issue. Here is a lot of the president's voters are only the prisoners voters that they don't vote for other people they will if they're on the ballot and donald trump is on the ballot but they only come for donald trump and they will go away but they weren't there to begin with and republicans were winning without him because these people were in the field that they weren't out there they weren't engaged so kim still has a path rapids burger. I don't know that ravnsborg has path moving forward referenced. Burger kind of struck the match. He he's just gonna let it all burn not since sherman has someone who eagerly wanted to burn down georgia rafts. Burger got thrown under the bus by leffler. He got thrown under the bus by do robbins burger people rounding. They're kind of like screw them. They got what they deserved but kemp didn't seem with him either. He had The the state party chairman attacking you got the base attack you've got the congresswoman women attacking the congressman attacking. Marge taylor green out there. Today blaming brian. Kemp for this eight. He didn't stop the steel. So of course it was stolen again when an idiot A you got these people out there doing this sort of stuff. I don't think i mean rafts. Burgers get it from all sides. I don't know that he can win it. I don't think he can run again. And i don't know that he's going to kind of feel bad for the guy who saw this coming you know. Who's happy georgia. casey cable. He sitting back at retirement thinking. My gosh. I'm glad i'm not there. You never see this stuff coming but see this. This is part of the lesson though. This is part of the lesson. Everyone's making projections now myself included. No one saw donald trump coming like he did in two thousand sixteen and he won. No one saw the virus coming like it did so much of what we're dealing with our things that were actually predictable easily predictable just a couple of years before unless you're watching south park evince changed things i say it all the time and i mean it evens changed things so the dynamics that we're dealing with today may be dynamics. Were not dealing with in two years or four years. Donald trump is in his seventies. He frankly could be dead. I don't mean that pejoratively. Or not. I mean he he could. He's he's at an age of mortality. So joe biden. You could be dealing with. President harris even change things. We don't know what the dynamics are. Look like two years from now. The economy could tank could be recession. There could be a war. There could be a terrorist attack. There could be an economic boom. There could be a massive explosion of the economy and georgia even chased as. We don't know the dynamics a year and a half from now so we can speculate. We chart we can plan. You should plan but you should also understand. Evince vince changed. We don't know what the events are going to be and we should be mindful of that. We should have some humility to say. We just don't know what things are going to be like. We can speculate. The past actually is pretty good indicator of the future unless you're in the stock market but we know even vince change things and that matters to now to the phones. Jim has been waiting very patiently. Jim indicator your next welcome. Thank you eric. I have a minor disagreement with you. I don't think it stupidity that led people to get their noses out of joint and just sit at home. -pecially i think they were too easily swayed by their emotions. And that's just that's a weak character week spine and it's something that conservatives usually prided themselves on having strong character and this time we didn't have strong character and so it's We let our emotions sway us to easily. That's not very i. Keep trying to come up with something. Catchy some catchy way pudding that. But i haven't done it yet. It's easily swayed. By the way. I think like best. But there wasn't an element here got so emotionally invested and yours. Let let let's be. Let's be honest. Part of this was that there were people who were convinced that it was god's will that donald trump would be reelected and The wind went another sales when it didn't happen They became convinced that it must be stolen. That's the only way they rationalize it and so it was a very emotional reaction. You you are right on that in fact you know it's it's funny you should say that because Hang on a second Mama mama. I just saw an email come through from from somebody yes I love your show. I wonder what the emotional state of conservatives are right now and did that. Play a role in this. I listen i there the emotional reaction you know when you get connected to a candidate who you love and it doesn't go that way you can get disaffected. This is why i think. Republicans win best when they make it about ideas and not about people. I mean this is something i mean. So many people forget ideas and principles and values they still matter And and when you wrap yourself around to candidate and that candidate goes away you no longer stand for anything. Part of the republican primary was. What the hell do they stand for. I mean i was elected republican. I don't know what the republican party stands for anymore other than. What is donald trump want to do today. That's not a long-term healthy strategy for party. At least with the left i know. They want to advance socialism. Where the republicans want to do other than tax cuts. Hello there. it's eric erickson. Here are the phone. Number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven. Three seven four to five. Bob colin from buford like all the atlanta. People are listening to this morning. Welcome bob how are you. Good morning. Eric thank you for taking my call. Sure I heard on a on another show that there were sixteen thousand military votes. That won't get here to be counted until friday so my question is how do we ensure that those votes certainly get counted. And how do we prevent the mainstream media from declaring. The democrat candidate is a winner before those votes get counted. That's a question. That's why they're going to wait. On the producers the margin between leffler and wore not they kind of know what votes route standing where they're coming from and so they can tell based on that that they that she can't make it up even if all the military ballots when her way with purdue there waiting because the he possibly could now i will tell you just got a note from a friend of mine in the senate who said the purdue team is advising their capitol hill staff today that they need to start preparing the resumes A good sign but He could turn it around. He's not conceding yet. Because of the closeness of it and maybe the military ballots will now by law in georgia They've got to count military ballots that come in by seven. Pm on friday and so they got to wait They we know how many routes as very much like last night there was the scenario. Where a dekalb. County had one hundred seventy thousand votes. That we're gonna come in at eleven o'clock and we knew there were under seventy thousand votes because we knew. How many absentee ballots. They had of the stack to count. And you know the the ballots. They've got to be passed through the machine all of them and then the filed. The the sim card. Not simply usb drive take into the counter machine. So that's how they get dumped in like that it's not a rolling debut. I'll conspiracy spirit. Either they're friday. How many votes you know we knew. They had one hundred seventy thousand dollars. It was not a conspiracy theory. They had one hundred seventy thousand ballots in the stack. They were counting them. The cab county girls said it was one hundred. It was actually. It was a hundred seventy one thousand. The dekalb county lady said it was one hundred seventeen thousand. 'cause she transpose numbers but the secretary of state's office knew what it was. There was no conspiracy there But some people would rather believe the lie. I guess Which is which is unfortunate and that lie has cost the republicans control of the united states senate because they chose to believe the lie. All right Let us go to sell and paul call and welcome. Thank you mr x. And thanks for having me on your show. Today i gotta ask. I'm just curious. What part of south georgia. America's i love america's alright. Thank you The last election november. I was very frustrated. You heard all this stuff specifically one of our precincts. I heard all these irregularities so i told my wife i'm not one to sit back and whine and complain that i'll be poll-watcher on the day of the election when i went ahead and did the first day of early early Voting in in our district. And then i did yesterday from seven the morning at ten o'clock at night and i encourage anybody that's got some questions about the elections to a poll watcher or be a poll worker. Because the people particularly the precinct captain they were so open with me about showing me everything even to take into the bowels of the dominion voting machine and winnings. I mean they're little we know what the the the the first day we had he said and i wanna show you how these we take the votes out how we count them his. This is the number here that was cast today just like yesterday. We had four hundred five votes are precinct. I worked at it at the end of the day. We took him out. We did stacks of twenty count him pre times. We had four hundred five votes. And i would have people come up to me and say poll watcher and ask me come outside because a poll watcher cannot speak to worker inside or i mean a worker or of election voter ran. They would say i vote. Didn't count. I know we've got that dominion machine and i would explain to them real simply that that machine could do all the iterations wanted to when we do hard recount those votes are there and they they look at you like you're crazy and how to explain it to people that are not plugged into any kind of ethernet internet cable via there. You know i. I gotta let you go because gotta heartbreak their but man. I just thank you for doing what you did. And for showing up and volunteered. Won't to talk about what what paul's talking about when we come back standing up volunteer in the machines. Hello there it is. You're huric's in here across the state of georgia and beyond the series of tubes known as the internet. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. Let me talk show. If you just tuned in paul from america's i need to get down to america's they got good eats down in america's So pull from. America's said he was concerned with the dominion voter system machines in november so he volunteered to be a poll worker for this election and he said it was an eye opening experience. They took him into in his work. The bowels of the dominion voter system machines. Let me explain to you why the machines aren't aren't stealing the election. Let me set this up for those of you. just shooting. in y. The dominion voter system machines are not stealing the election. First of all you know. The trump campaign filed suit in in pennsylvania claiming that the the dominion voters machines in delaware county. Pennsylvania were stealing the election and they don't use those machines in delaware county. Pennsylvania and in wisconsin where the trump campaign asked for a partial recount ask for partial recounts in any county that used a million versus two machines. The claims made publicly is not what they're actually pursued in court. Which tells you it's all a bunch of bull crap I can say that word on radio. It's just not true. Let me explain to you. How i know it's not true. The dominion system machines actually print out a paper ballot and that paper ballot has a qr code on it. And when you see the qr code the us take your ballot out of the machine becomes comes out for printer next to the machine which you touch the screen and then you take that paper ballot over to a box. That has a scanner on top and you slide it through the scanner. Scans that your code in theory. The qr code matches it prints who you voted for. It says you voted for purdue voted for leffler for mcdonald's it matches that in theory will in georgia we did a statewide hand recount of every paper ballot in the state. And guess what the machines in the hand count. They matched perfectly. So you're going to have to now. Concoct a theory that the paper ballots are actually changing your vote. That you're touching the machine. David purdue and the ballot is actually printing out. Jon ossoff. Well if you look at it because most poll workers tell you verify it's right not all vote most of them do and you're not bothering to look at it. Well then you're you're an idiot if you're not looking at your ballot is not not the machines fault your fault. You're not a responsible voter. But then they do something in. Here's what those who are peddling. The conspiracy theory clearly have no ideas happening around the country in every single state that uses electronics voting machines. Every state is required by federal law to randomly pick precincts in urban suburban rural areas. And go hand. Count the ballots in those briefings after the election. Now i hear what you're saying. I hear what you think. Well they pick these precincts ahead of time so they knew which precincts not. That's not true. They do not pick the precincts in which the audit will be conducted until after the election has concluded and then they randomly pick racing's every single state in the union. Does this they randomly pick precincts after the election is over urban suburban rural. They gonna mix and they go. Count the vote by hand and the ballots have to match with the machine said and if not there's a greater inspection guess what there's never been that greater inspection you know why because the hand counted. Paper ballots matched the machines. This happens in every election. You know what else will you go in. And you check in at the polling location. You checked in on an ipad. The ipad runs a software program that is written for i o s in the swift programming language that apple runs or c. plus plus but it's written for apple. These ipads are not connected to the internet. They are connected to the internet the day before the election where the voter rolls were put on. And then they're taken to the polling locations and they're connected to a land a local area network where these ipads can communicate with each other inside the polling location but there's no internet connection for them to connect to the cloud and then these machines on which you check in our from a different company in a written in a different programming language and not connected to the dominion voter system machines the dominion versus two machines. Run on windows. That's why they fail in polling locations because they suck because their windows devices and windows devices crash. It's not that they're reading the voters that crash in columbia county yesterday. That happened in other places it happened. They had to reboot it but those machines are not going to the internet. They run a different operating system from the ipads in which you're checked in. They're not connected to each other those machines on which you touch and cash. Your vote pronounced ballot. They're not connected to the scanner. You take your paper. Ballot to the scanner gets dropped into a box on after which is scanned that people saw that video and fulton county and said those were suitcases. No those were the secure boxes in which the ballots are dropped and once. Those boxes are opened on election night to count. Everybody gets to inspect the ballots that are in there and then they have to count and they're not allowed to stop until everybody boxes counted which is why they continue to count in fulton county that night in which is why you saw those boxes be moved around. There's word suitcases. Those were boxes of ballots. That had been opened and inspected and they weren't allowed to go home until they'd countered them all. There's no conspiracy here. There's no there there to the extent people there is well they're peddling conspiracy theory and that's a problem. The truth is the election wasn't stolen. The machines don't steal your vote and the republicans believed the election was stolen and committed political suicide in georgia last night. Now let's go to the phones shall we. Let's go to where we going I am going to my stupid computer froze for a second. I'm going to go to nolan calling from tampa florida nolan. Welcome eric My question for you is. I have a lot of family members who are completely convinced. The election was stolen. I'm down here in florida so we weren't involved in georgia election. But how do i. How do i deal with them. How do i them about this. Because all they do is just very upset and angry with me. When i try to to them that i it wasn't stolen democracy works. It's almost at this point. It's a faithful conviction. I mean it's it's like i believe. Jesus christ rose from the dead. I believe the election was stolen there. It is one is as much by faith as the other. And i don't know that you can honestly i've started giving up because i have people call me all the time. I got a guy who who emails we finally had to block him At this point he's offering to give five thousand dollars to fight childhood cancer. If i can prove to him. The election wasn't stolen. I think the burden of proof is on the person who thinks the election was stolen. And what i've had to do is keep raising questions kind of like the the devil in the garden. I'm just asking questions to god really say this And and you got the conspiracy theories. I just wanna ask these questions. And why is this happening at a lot of it has doctored photos or edited Or commented over and people just want to believe that it was stolen. Eight helps them sleep well at night to think that it's out of their hands and it's not that they could worked harder or maybe they should have gone to a boat parade. Gone to bank instead I it's really unfortunate. I wish i had an answer for you. And i don't i wash my hands of it at this point because every day that i tell people it wasn't so they say well what about what about what about what about and i don't have enough time in the day to explain all this stuff to them and what has really happened here is that people have gone in search of expertise from people who are con artists. And they're believing the con artists. It's like the guy in georgia. He actually changed his name after helping radio shack go bankrupt and he was an expert witness for the gop. He claimed that he hacked the pulling machine and it turns out he didn't and yet now i've got a trump supporters telling me look he hacked one of these machines like no. He really didn't but they saw the video and that's what he said. Why would he lie. Well he would lie because a lot of people are making money off this stuff. I sorry to disappoint as you do. You think that This is going to culminate inches. Some kind of you know serious Conflict in washington. All these these I worry about it i know. That's okay. I i really do worry about this If people really believe that the election was stolen and like in the first hour. I mentioned i actually got a death threat from someone. 'cause i call joe biden president-elect in this person threaten to kill me because i am standing in the way of god's will god wants donald trump to be reelected and somehow unable to obstruct. God's will so i must die That's where we are right now and it does worry me particularly with what's going on in washington today. They are going to ratify the electoral college after all the performance art. And you've got a lot of people who are convinced it was stolen and that there's a communist uprising upon us. You've got the conspiracy voices out there who make money off of it and there are a lot of people who simply don't care it has become for people about power and they've lost power and they want power in the way to get power back is to take it back by force and that worries me. Election was not stolen. People believe the election was stolen. Stolen people believe the con artists. And the charlatans and the people making money off of it they believe the people who have something to gain and it helps them sleep well at night thinking that the election was stolen because they don't have to ask what they could have done differently to have one well if it was stolen. There's nothing i could have done differently. As opposed to. Maybe you shouldn't have been out there cheering on these issues. Around the country who were who were counter protesting the rioters and hoisted carrying tiki torches the torches through charlottesville virginia. Maybe you shouldn't have been cheered on the president and his worst. Maybe should have gone to a boat parade and should have gone to a phone. Banker knocked on doors and asked people to go. Vote for your candidate. But no no if it was stolen. I don't have to ask myself at that stuff. That's that's part of the problem. Austin texas nathan. Your next welcome. Thanks for taking my call. Appreciate it sure So i at this point you know with what's happening and all that my main thoughts just kind of what's coming and Kind of what to expect being passed and things like that from washington and so my kind of my general question for you and have some other things if you have time but what are your thoughts on kind of where we go privately as individuals with what may become past you know say for example with guns and things like ice cream party we check from Pat toomey and joe manchin have pushed for a more comprehensive background check. We may get that now We're not gonna get rid of the filibuster though Because it joe manchin kristen cinema dianne feinstein think dick durbin have all said no so. They don't have enough votes to get rid the filibuster which means they can't pack the court which means they can't give puerto rico or dc statehood But what they can do is reconciliation. Which is a a legislative maneuver where they can Packing a bunch of tax increases and push those through without the filibuster applying. They get one bite in the apple year so they can text greece's much of what you're going to see though is confirmation fights what's going to happen in this. The real fight is going to be as is joe. Biden will be able to pick more progressive members of his cabinet. Who regulatory reform will push the country to the left. Well i guess my concern is kind of like with some of what you're talking about taxes if they pass taxes on ownership of illegal firearms. You know for people who don't have the funds that stuff you know what i mean And so i mean in first of all i mean. I don't feel like they have a the based on our second. I understand that the second amendment. They really shouldn't have the authority to tax are our right. You know what i mean and so okay you. With the exception of voting because of the poll tax you can tax or right you can tax. You're were so you can tax the bullet you can tax a gun I don i agree with you about. I don't think they should. But the supreme court has said they can What i don't think they're going to be able to do this. What they wanna do is retroactively tax. So they want to come after you and me and our guns that we already own in apply textile. I don't think they're going to be able to do that. But i think what they will. They will add essentially a national sales tax to the purchase of new firearms and they will try to make the taxes as large as possible to dissuade people buying it. That's that's the problem now. I'll tell you the other thing. I let you go there. Because i got i got a commercial break. You gotta take care The other thing that you're going to have to worry about is what do like the fcc. The fda and these outside regulation agencies do because biden will get to a point of a lot of those people and they're republicans and democrats alike will give him his nominees and those people will set about driving up the cost of doing business in the country. That's where the real problems going to be is. The cost of doing business is going to go up. What it so weird. Not having all these commercials crazy by the way. This hour of the program is sponsored by true precision. Go to true dash precision dot com. Check out what they do You'll love him. True dash vision. Com is the website thanks to them for sponsoring the program. All right back to the phones. The number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine. Seven three seven four to five. I'm going to go to eric indicator. Welcome hello eric. Nice to talk to you sir. You okay. I'd like. I love your show since day one on. Am seven fifty wsb. I wanna say yes sir. I wanna say our founding fathers warned us of this day and this is why we need. This is why we have a libertarian party. Too many americans don't know enough about it please. Talk more on the libertarian. Party enlightened folks and expand on the principles. Americans need new new. Hello sir. Americans need new fresh ideas that haven't been in the cookie jar since nineteen seventy six. I know your libertarian. And there is no better way to awaken. Americans that you eric. While right now the complete decimation of of spineless republican party. I see the chance for the libertarians to rise. Appeal and start campaigning. Right now i am. I have liberal conservative friends. Who would be on board if we had a viable candidate. Okay let me. I gotta i gotta stop you right there first of all. I'm not a libertarian. I don't mean just which. I'm a conservative. My my side tends to win more than the libertarians. A now philosophically agree with ronald reagan. That at the heart of conservatism is libertarianism. A smaller government is actually better for you that you should be able to live your life without government interference and you know best. What's for you and your family is both government. I agree with all that stuff but the problem is the libertarian party when they keep electing nuts in kooks i mean. Look at their libertarian. Nationwide candidate for president got got bit by a rabid bet and had to get off the campaign trail for a while. And i think the vice presidential running mate forum was all about legal prostitution. You gotta find viable candidates to be libertarians. they've had opportunities in the past and they they've turned into the party of of storeowners and prostitutes. That's listen. I the libertarian. Ideals are different at this point from the libertarian party. In you know in in georgia all shane hazel last night. Basically say f everybody Why would you vote go. Vote for do if you're libertarian. Well a lot of them did not enough compared to the republicans who didn't go vote and the libertarian. About access in georgia. I suspect what probably going to see here. At this point is an into runoffs that would help the republicans. Getting rid of runoffs left. That have general election runoffs anyway So you'll see the republicans finally get rid of that that should help them somewhat And maybe they wanna to get rid of the libertarian ballot access and that would help them to some degree as well but the republicans to eric's point the republicans have to stand for something other than donald trump and. I don't mean this to be disparaging any of you but you gotta stand for something other than an individual there will come a time when donald trump is no longer around if the republican party becomes the party of trump and not the party of any particular idea what happens thereafter. What do you stand for. That's that's part the problem that the gotta deal with back to the phones kindle going from comey your next welcome. Hey eric Thanks for taking the call I love that. She just said there. Trump was always temporary either four years or eight years. What do we stand for. Who are we into your point. I think the ideas matter more on the personality i don't want to share is that i think i understand everybody's frustration today but i believe that we can probably trace where we ended up today back to warn really simple thing that happened several months ago which was doug collins deciding to get into the election before the general kelly. Waffler and against brian kim. He asked brian for the senate spot. Kim said no gave the law. Flir camp had his reasons. But if you look at what happened. In the general between collins and laughlin they had more than enough votes to take that seat trump on the ballot. So the turn out was what the turn out was. If you look where we lost and you pointed out it was watching you last night and even you know kinda early in the morning that north georgia area i'd love to see the county by county that was collins. Country should have been how many of those voters stayed home because it was a collins. And i think that doug who i but a little bit of ego and a little bit of entitlement and getting that race if he's not in the race and the general do we win and if sentence already decided is they're not the motivation that the democrats had to take the senate and does purdue even wind because the democrats. I gotta tell you you're you're making great points. I really do think if you look at the numbers leffler could have run a different better campaign and possibly beaten were not in november had called not gotten in and left we had to go full trump in a way that came across as inauthentic to a lot of people and in order to keep calling back. She was successful in doing it. But then it set up to fail in in the in the runoff. And again this is. This goes back to the carville. Paul begala book. I was talking about earlier. Is they wrote a management and one of the things they right is that never plot out your path to victory by trying to win the primary in a way that ensures you lose the general in this case the primary was the general election and the election was the runoff for leffler because they had twenty one people in that race together and she had to go full truck to stop collins in a way that if he wasn't there she probably could have won outright in that election or at least started going after warnock to at the tax resonates more So yeah i do think collins getting into the race cost the republicans a senate seat A lot of people blaming it on picking him. But i think she have survived if collin tent gotten in l. o. And welcome in his eric. Erickson here all across the state of georgia. The full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. 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I will start here where i ended my first hour. I have literally this morning. Had people email me and text me and say i did not vote because you were nasty to me on the radio. You hurt my feelings. You called me a moron. You have just proven me right. You are an idiot. If me hurting your feelings means you wanted to hand the nation over to two left wing loons in the us senate well. You're an idiot each probably. Just turn your voter registration altogether anyway. Now what actually happened. I've started every hour with us today because a couple of stations don't carry all three hours of the program. And i gotta make sure everybody's up with this. Here's what happened. In november republicans won fifty one percent statewide in the congressional races. Fifty three percent statewide and state house races and fifty four percent statewide in the state senate races and then for two months. David shafer the chairman of the republican party in georgia and donald trump the president of the united states and various congressmen and women from georgia. Win around the state saying it was all stolen. Brad rapids burger brian. Kemper help stacey abrams. It's all their fault. The fixes in we can't win because they keep stealing and guess what republicans believed them and so republicans stayed home. Democrats turned out at roughly. The rate they turned out in the general election. Republicans did not turn out at near the rate. They turned out in the general election. In fact last night i to get messages from team. Produce in the people shown up we modeled it at x. People are showing up at x. minus that's not good. the republicans were thinking. They could win with about twenty five to thirty thousand votes. And guess what they couldn't. Because the president david shafer marjorie taylor green and and and other congressman in republicans around the state were saying it was stolen in november and the had done anything to fix it so the fixes in yet lynnwood all over the state. Say and don't go vote. They stole it. You got signs up in north georgia saying don't vote in a rigged election and republicans believed it. It's like democratic plants got into the republican party and convince these people to work against their own interest. That's what happened. The republicans could have won. Had they showed up but they decided they were victims and so they stayed home. It really have no sympathy for They're these people when their taxes go up. They're going to deserve the rest of us. We'll be punished but these idiots will deserve every penny. They pay extra taxes every time they go buy a gun and it's more expensive because the democrats passed a gun tax. I hope they remember. They were idiots and believed. The election was stolen when it wasn't until they stayed home. The rest of us will pay the price for them being stupid. We will pay the price for the president. Suppressing his own vote The president will see his legacy wiped out and he'll probably think is a good thing. You'll probably run in four years and say hey biden sucks. You should've kept me in office. That'll be his campaign. It'll devastate the gop. But that's where we are now. I actually don't want to talk about this anymore. I want to talk about the vaccine. I wanted to talk about the virus. Chocolate about covid. Nineteen at this point. Is i think i would rather have covert than talk about covert. I'm exhausted by the topic. But there's news out there. This is a news program. You're listening to a news talk station and so we should talk about the news about the virus and the vaccine and the great debates and right now you need to know in georgia. The situation is not good in georgia. Right now particularly northeast georgia raven and habur sham in white county lumpkin county hall county. Franklin county madison. County jackson county oconee county walton. County greene county handcock. Any my goodness gracious You guys have bad right now. Y'all are the worst in the state. Actually there's what highway is that. I'm sorry i'm going to destroy this too so unprofessional you know i. There's a guy listening right now. Who's going to pick it up the show and i'm screwing myself up because i'm about to do something and distract myself but it's a necessary thing you'll bear with me here. There is a highway. And i cannot remember the fricken number of the highway. And it's it's necessary. It is georgia. It's no it's not twenty. It's iowa twenty-five what it is it. Us twenty-five little wiki goes up to glenville goes through claxton. Goes up to north georgia highway. Twenty-five runs through runs through yup statesborough. It goes up if you follow highway. Twenty-five us twenty-five goes all the way up to north georgia goes through a gusta. You follow highway twenty-five guess what you find that's where the virus is. That's where the worst of it is. and then you get up a an georgia in your follow in What is this I i know it so professional i should not be doing this But then you get up to you. Get up to the demerist in clarksville. And what's that gorgeous drive through. Four forty one. Yes four forty one. North of i twenty four forty one south of i twenty s highway tweet fight. You follow those lines. That's where the viruses. I mean you can follow the path that even curves around down in south georgia. I mean you get down there. Clinch county atkins has got a coffee county at turns dappling and bacon and tombs and then it gets up to jefferson and then it goes handcock green oglethorpe madison franklin stevens average sham white raven county. There where the viruses it is. The east side of georgia follows up those federal highways. Us airways and it's bad and then murray and whitfield county are bad. you know. that's a problem. There too with whitfield county and the president has rally up north georgia. All those people. You're going to get some viral spread from there. Now we've got the vaccine. Though in the vaccine is rolling out of the city georgia. I talk to brian yesterday about it. He was old the program and We got the vaccine We're we're we got parts of we got three phases of phase one phase one a was Frontline healthcare workers and people in nursing homes face to is senior citizens and face three of once it was one eight one being now one sees coming up in that is people with compromised immunity and and issues. My wife and i are there. I've got clots in my lungs. And i technically qualify my wife actually lung cancer and so she definitely qualifies and we're ready to get this vaccine now. The question is the vaccine. Comes in two doses. At here's something. I did not know i did not know and i. I'm learning this. I i read this on the internet. I need i need to clarify. I read this on the internet. But i read it from virologist why are there two rounds to the vaccine from what the said and was retreated by other virologists. So either they're all stupid or they know what they're talking about is that we get your first injection. You get immunity. The problem is we don't know one who's going to get immunity. Eighty seven percent of the people. Do so when i heard that the ninety five percent immunity i thought okay. They give me two rounds of this. I get ninety five percent immunity. Which means all you got a five percent chance no from what the varada logistics are telling me you get a hundred percent immunity but only ninety five percent of the vaccine get immunity. Five percent are impacted. They get nothing and with the first shot. It's only eighty seven percent so with the first route it's eighty seven percent get immunity and then you get your booster and we get to ninety five percent. We can't tell who's getting immunity or not. That's why give you two shots now. Another corologis tells me the other reason you get the booster shot is because we don't know how long your immunity las- you get a boost your shot normally. It's spread out more than three weeks. You get a booster shot and that also if you have immunity. It's more likely to keep your immunity. We know that this new virus the strain that more aggressively spreads actually the device vaccine works on it as well so the question now is do we extend the time for the booster shots so more people can get the first one. And there's actually a big debate now among veracity immunologist epidemiologists of what we should do. And i'll tell you where i am with this. I'm in the get rid of the phases camp. Get rid of the phases. Here's my position and this is why if we can't let chick-fil-a give you gave play everybody's gonna get vaccinated today with this government program. Get rid of the face. Get rid of phase one phase two phase. What a wouldn't be onc- see give. Everybody wants it you. This virus is this vaccine. The pfizer would in particular has to be kept in cold storage when you get it out of cold storage. You've only got so many hours to give those vaccines. If people missed their appointment. You throw it away. It's a waste so give it to whoever wants to get it it. Here's what you do. It's first come first serve but old people in people with compromised immunity. They get i they get jump ahead of the line. So if you've got thirty people in line to get vaccinated and a senior citizen comes in. They moved to the front line. You got thirty people in line. Someone's got lung cancer. They got a they slip of paper from their doctors saying they got lung cancer. They go to the front of the line and everybody else just the line and you just start giving people i mean. The goal here is to immunize as many people as possible. Some people don't want it. They're convinced they're going to start speaking russian or chinese or they're gonna grow second head or something they don't want it okay. They don't have to take it but enough people do want it now that we should be given it as quickly as we can to as many people as we can is of doing this faced role at that's a stupid idea we need to get as many people vaccinated out ready to get on my house and i've been traveling some but i have to be very careful how i because my wife's conditioning because of mine. I'm ready to go to the house. I'm ready to go see my listeners. I'm ready to go hang out. Grab a beer with us. I'm ready to go back to clayton hanging out of that. That place. i was at up at lake burton. I'm ready to go back to clarksville and hang out downtown. I'm ready to go up to roll back at listeners. There have been dying for me to come up there and have a beer with them. I'm ready radio. i'm ready to go down to brunswick. I'm ready to get down to albany. I'm ready to get out and about making so piedmont bruin to make it if you ever come through making a two great restaurants downtown. The rookery pima piedmont brie there are beer the satisfied. It's it's perfect. I'm not a fancy beer guy. I don't like fruity beers. And that's the trend. Now as you know what is in hell. They serve as in hell and everybody wants. Ipa's and they want free beer. I don't want kiwi dragon fruit lying beer. No just give me a miller lite. I'm fine with me. Healing satisfied the beer that that is just. It's just good beer and we can't go down there my family. I love going down there. Got a game downstairs. It's a great place. If you ever come through making go to piedmont but the viruses. Screw everything up. I'm ready to get out of the house. I'm ready to get the vaccine. just first come first serve. I'll take off a day. Play a best stuff. And i'll go stand in line all day just so i can get my vaccine. I want it. i'm not scared of it. At first i was a little bit hesitant and then i read more fascinated by this. Do you know what to forty eight hours to come up with vaccine. They actually had the vaccine formula before the first case hit the shore the united states. It's just take that much time to ramp production testing now. Here's the other thing i learnt. Do you know a lot of people are saying well. Should we test it for longer. Do you know why we're rushing to that much. Because normally takes years to get a satisfactory pool of people to test a vaccine so many people volunteered to test this vaccine. We've got the entire pool of people we needed to test it to make sure it was safe. And it's an immoral vaccine which is super safe compared to using a alive or dead virus vaccine. I'm ready to take i. I'm gonna trust the science on this. And i wish that the the woke cdc at others who wanted to give it to like people of color in your young people of color as opposed to the people die from the from the thing because they wanted for a equity and ethics and yes. We just need to get the vaccine out there. Give to everybody who wants it. There are a lot of people who still. Don't they're skeptical of it. I'm no longer am. I want my wife to get it. She wants to get it. She wanted to be in the test. She wanted to be the the vaccine testing pool. She was ready to get it. It's time to get out there but this gives me hope that by by the into summer life will be mostly back to normal if we could. Just get our butts gear. I was tweeting. Sorry welcome. I love this song by the way june. The line is just great. Such a good band. I was supposed to go see them In the virus happened. And i couldn't go. I wanted to go see the. I got invited to a a pearl jam. I love pearl jam pearl jam. They're awesome up philip I love program. And i got invited to to a concert And and then it got cancelled because of the because of the the the stupid stupid virus. Okay i need to make an unkind point at this point. There's just a certain segment of people. I realize i'm gonna offend and it's still the truth and sometimes the truth is a you know. I was fridge with andrew breitbart. I still get his number and my cell phone guy used to call me at like three o'clock in the morning and then hang up because he realized after i'd said hello he would hang up after. Say no i'm sorry. Forgot it was midnight there and hang up. He's like three o'clock in the morning. Come on three o'clock in the morning here in midnight in los angeles when he would call. And i'm sorry three o'clock in the morning of their hang up after i'd already woke up like no i'm awake now. Thanks andrew breitbart used to say A truth is the truth. That isn't mean. And here's the truth. There are a bunch of people in washington. Dc rallied today for grievance there. They want to stop the steel man. They want to stop the steel. They're convinced it was stolen and they're rallying in washington dc and they're gonna stop the steel man there. Donald trump junior who actually liked donald trump. Junior a great deal. He and his brother both eric. I i think that they actually are very nice. People and but donald trump junior said he's coming forward. They're not gonna stand for a. I dad there come for them and This is donald trump's republican party. Not there's here's the problem though the people who are going to these rallies like the people who showed up dalton to the people showed up at valdosta. They view rallied as doing something. Had the people who showed up at the rally showed up to vote. They would one had. They spent their time doing phone banks and knocking on doors and get out. The vote drives instead of boat. Parades they would have won. Had they done constructive productive things instead of things to make them feel good in substitute of going to church they would one but what. We're seeing this cathartic experience of of these people going to these rallies in washington and the big rallies and the like rally countries. A lot of people are substituting on the right politics for religion. Just like on the left. They're going to find something to fill the void in their heart. That has been left by not having a relationship with their creator and they are going to find someone who will create this new world for them in a politician and they're not doing the things that will actually advance the cause like the people who go to church and they don't support missions to spread the gospel it's the people going to the rallies substitute for church. And then not doing the things. They need to do to spread the gospel of their candidate by going to fold banks and going to knock on doors and going to write checks and showed up voting of the bowls. The republicans in georgia have wiped out their own president's legacy by handing the senate to the democrats because they didn't put enough energy into winning georgia and then to excuse themselves at all. It was stolen from us. There was nothing we could have done. Yeah those boat parades on lake odeon and lake lanier. They were real helpful and getting people out to vote for the president. I mean i it. Circle jerks up there on the on the parade showing each other their boats see who has the biggest boat And then they didn't actually go out and tell people other than themselves who are already inside inside the movement. Hey you know what you should join our movement no. They're floating on their boats isolated on a lake showing their trump flags and they didn't do anything else they could've but they didn't and so i'm sorry to to be critical and break people but all the energy being on these rallies and stop the steel rallies and boat parades incorporates. Better been spent actually tried to win the election instead of now just screaming that it was stolen as an excuse for dropping the ball in november. That's a hard painful truth but it's still the truth. Hi there okay. I'm going to go back to the phones. Charlie as open the phone lines. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I'm going to go to gordon guinness. All know gordon. I i gotta tell you something when we start here i was. Hesitate your phone call. Because charlie my call screener and producer. Who's the biggest cynic actually says you've got a great point. And when he gets excited about a call always a little skeptical. So don't don't let us down now. Okay well good so my point is you were speaking kind of set at a multiple times this morning about those people with north georgia then have had spent their time better. Maybe going out to knock on doors hitting the phone banks and doing whatever you can do to campaign for candidates i. I was gonna do that myself. I had a bunch of time that i would taking a work and i was december. I think i'll go out and do that but my problem would help me back doing that. Was that the candidates the message that they were sending out the wrong message. There were falling in line with President trump i voted for trump. I i believe for kelly. And i voted for Purdue good so everything. I followed that line but giving my time to knock on. Somebody's door to try to like a previous caller. What do i tell that person. Who doesn't believe if the if the candidates are sending to ron and i'm sitting on a mock indoors beaten street and stuff like that. I just felt it wouldn't have been my best time. Spent if the person who i'm trying to campaign for gets the megaphone out every time it says hey was stolen. You're just killing killing me out here on the street here trying to work for yourself. I don't think you're worth my time. So that's why. I didn't even not for our. I got i gotta tell you that is a great point and also. What is your message. Hey please go. Vote for david and kelly because raphael warnock john. Also we're going to eat your children to make you speak chinese right. I mean i. I i agree with the doug collins thing i think that was a component as to why this thing probably didn't go out the way it was because he kind of wanted to get in there. I'm not assigning bullying. I'm saying it's probably a component to be a reason as to why things went the way they did and Like another one of your callers. Says i am concerned with the way things are going to happen here in the future. But i'll tell you one thing. I am glad it's older. I can kinda just skip back to my life. Move on know. I don't hold the story about the stolen election from my wife. And i disagree on that but i'm just getting on with my life. I'm going back to listen to music again. And i'm paying the bathroom right now. So it's back to my normal billion. Everything can happen as it happens. And i heard a used car commercial this morning and i thought that's great. It's over but yet listen. You're absolutely right. Thank you very much for the phone. Call you you're right. That is a great point. What is the message when people have have intuited that all the election was stolen. There's nothing i can do. I want to tell you what you can do. Let's have a serious moment here because this needs to be said and hang on. I want i want to read it for you precisely because this is some of you are going to say this. Is eric broken record. Time yelp it is broken record time. But i'm i'm gonna. I'm gonna do this one because it needs to be said jeremiah. Twenty nine yeah man i. This is my favorite passage in all of scripture and it is so appropriate today. Thus says the lord of hosts the god of israel to all the exiles whom i i have sent into exile from jerusalem to babylon build houses and live in them plant gardens and eat their produce take wives and have sons and daughters take wise for your sons and give your daughters in marriage that they may bear sons and multiply there and do not decrease but seek the welfare of the city where i have sent you into exile and pray to the lord on its behalf for in its welfare. You will find your welfare question. You listening right now. where do you do. You live in washington. Dc do you live in washington dc question do you live in washington dc. If so seek the welfare of the city where god has put you in exile there. You're passing through all the way the promised land but right now you're an exile of washington. Dc god help you seek the welfare of washington dc. You're listening to me and you're not in washington. Dc stop carrying about washington dc more than you care about your own backyard. Your county commission your local school board your local city council they were gonna impact you on a daily basis way more than joe biden cobbler. Hera's there i feel. Were not john also in washington. Dc welfare of the city in which you live you want to build a base of support for you and your side. You're afraid they're coming to get you. They don't like you anymore. they hate you. show him your love. Love your neighbor in your community. Seek the welfare of the city which live work with your local community. Joe join of local volunteer group that focuses on your community not a political per se. Local volunteer group go work at a homeless shelter. Go work at a food bank gorgan local volunteer centre. Go help teach literacy local school. Seek the welfare of the city where you are. I don't care about you being in politics right now and you shouldn't either. You just lost everything you think. The election was stolen. You wanna rebuild rebuild your local community. That's what god commands of you. Seek the welfare of the city which you're next style there. You will find your welfare. Pray for it if you live in washington. Dc that's where you need to turn your attention but if you don't stop worrying about washington there is a homeless man in your city who you are better able to help then washington. Dc will help. There is a child learning to read in your local community who you will help more than washington. Dc will help. There is a hungry person in your community. Who's out of work right now because the virus who you will help better than washington. Dc will help seek the welfare of the city where you live unless you live in. Washington don't focus on washington conservatives believe in small government conservatives believed that the government closest to you is the government that works the best and yet you're focused on washington. Dc which doesn't work at all and is going to be gridlock even with a fifty. Fifty senate Harris can break some votes. But not most votes. And it's going to be gridlock but your local community needs you. And you've abandoned your local community to focus on washington. Dc you're not gonna find your salvation in washington dc. No one from washington is coming to save you now anyway. Joe biden will be president on january twentieth. A you can't stop it sort of short of insurrection. And you're not going to be successful there but you can build up a base of support for you and your ideas by being a good neighbor in your local community and helping your local community and dealing with the problems in your local community and showing your local community that you a conservative. Without the help of government can more productively mobilized compassion in your local community through nonprofits through churches through your own outreach. Then the government will do and you can go invest your time at the local school board meeting at the local city council meeting at the local county commission meeting. You can be engaged in your local politics in your local community where you're going to make a better daily difference for yourself your family and your neighbors. Then you are by focusing on a bunch of yahoos in washington dc. Who don't even know your name. Seek the welfare of the community in which an exile by the way. If you're believer you are in exile. You just passing through on your way turn ity. Everybody is passing through other way to through the grave to. What's on the other side. Some of you think there's nothing else the worms will let your body that that's a terrible way to live. What are the things that's happening right now. The left and the right is people have fallen away. From the church. there are pastors. I follow on social media. Who have fallen away from the church. They spend more time complaining about stopping the steel and stolen elections in donald trump than they do share in the gospel. I follow pastures on twitter. And i think i talk about the gospel more on social media than you do. I'm still working on my degree. You've got yours and you're in a pulpit on sunday and and help you beat in the pulpit thinking. The election was stolen in the world is going to hell in a handbasket. I've read the book. The world does go into hell in handbasket. But i'm on the winning team. So i'm okay and you got a bunch of people in your in your church. Who are looking for a higher calling and you're obsessed with politics. What are they learning from you on social media. I got lecture last night. Because i dropped an f-bomb on social media. Occasionally i do. I apologize but you know what pretty sure. Some of the people in the gospel said some bad words occasionally to and it was earned last night but nonetheless there are people trying to find themselves right now and they have found politics as their savior. They are involved with messianic zeal. In trying to save the nation not by saving but by saving the country from the communist overlords that are not coming in china. The freedom protesters and hong kong are being disappeared. They're being arrested. They're going away. We can't find him the people who are at the rally to stop the steel in today the people who are up there protesting who want the electoral college thrown out who want congress to essentially have a coup by republicans in steal the election from the democrats great precedent-setting there guys those people they're going to go home and they're going to sleep in their beds. Alex jones will go back to his mansion. Donald trump junior. We'll go back to his mansion. Some of the other rich people go back their mansions. Other people will go back to their where they stay. They won't be disappeared. They won't be rounded up. They won't be thrown away as dissidents. They'll sleep well at night. Some of them will drift and make good money of this. We live in a very good country. The communist hoard is not going to destroy it tomorrow but even if the communist horrid destroyed the country tomorrow if they were successful you're still supposed to worry about your local community there. You will find your welfare. You'll find the people to protect you from the communist hord. If you're a loving neighbor in your community you'll find the people who will work with you to turn the tide. So many people are listening to the voice of the back of their head. That tells them there's something more than this and instead of looking for answers in a church where they should be looking for answers. They're looking for answers at a political rally. Oh there is more than this and that moore is. I must get this guy elected. And if he's not elected will that was god's will how could they obstruct. God's will god's will be obstructed the devil one this one. The devil thought he won in the garden. Lit along came the lord and said no. She's going to be a son of eve who's gonna crush your head. The gig was up. The the apple was bitten for the forbidden. Whatever was but people now. they're looking. They're looking for 'cause they're looking for something to invest their time in there looking for the they want to do something they want to revolutionize the world that they want to do something in the left in now people on the right. It's bit phenomenon of the left but us becoming a phenomenon of all sides. They're swapping god for government. They're swapping politics purity. Their sacraments are becoming their political causes in cravings in that little voice is still there said. No no no no no. There's something more there's something more and they're not listening to it enough. Atheists spend inordinate amount of energy to silence that little voice in oftentimes that will voice stays and they become very bitter about religion because they know those with voices calling them for whether in politics or not. You're missing the point. You're not going to change the world by voting for a bunch of jerks in washington. Dc you're not going to change the world by going up to washington and storming the congress in ensuring that donald trump becomes dictator for life. You're not going to change the world by voting for senator. You're gonna change the world by living in a house in a community raising a family in seeking the welfare of your very city. That's how you're going to change the world in so many people have missed that. I missed that one time for a long time i kept bending my faith towards politics tried to justify my actions realized one day. I was doing it wrong. Let me in where. I began this morning. Thousands of years ago the king of israel broken half really not half. I mean you had judah one other stay behind everybody else started. The northern kingdom became very prosperous the king of the northern kingdom said. Hey guys we got a problem. If people start going back to jerusalem to the temple they're going to realize there's there's something more here there's something not right with this and we can't have him realizing that that there's something not right with this so we need to do something so they can a conspiracy and they said you know back in sinai. It was moses who was committing the conspiracy and it was era who is committing the truth and we need to set up golden calves and we need to go worship the golden calves and makes sacrifices at the gold gas because that's the true religion errand was telling the truth was moses who was the conspiracy theorist and so in the northern kingdom they believe the conspiracy was the truth of the truth was the lie and amos and others went up there and said guys repent. Y'all are doing it wrong. Y'all blue the lie is true and the truth is a lie. And god's gonna punish you. They said no. No no where we're wealthy we're succeeding. Look at us. Look at our successes. It aims god. Gave you that success. Hope in you might turn and love him again and in you have it so it's about to get brutal up here. They said no. It's not we're doing it right. The lie became the truth. And the truth became the lie and they got wiped out by the assyrians in georgia republicans abandoned ideas and started worshiping an idol. They made a politician. Their religion was all about him and he lost in the way they processed. The loss was well. It must have been stolen. No it wasn't stolen. You just can't fathom that some people didn't like the guy so you turn the truth into a lie and the lie into the truth and the line was that the election was stolen but you believed it was true and so then he came back and he had his his idol worshippers come with him in the high priests of the republican trumpian religion saying hey it was stolen. It was stolen. There's nothing you can do. It's god's will for him to be president but they stole it from us. Somehow you can obstruct god's will and so they believe the lie and they stayed home and they handed washington over to the democrats and now they're idols. God has a way of crumbling. Your idols they're gonna watch it happen and they're like what we do. What do we do. Both sides are bad in our guys. God what do we do well again. I'll tell you what you do seek the welfare of the city in which you're an exile prefer it there you'll find your welfare stop making washington the be all end. All stop worshipping idols and stop being impulsive personality ideas and principles still matter but above all else. There's a heaven there's a hell in judgment is coming in. You need to be on the right side and figure out what really is true. Instead of believing lies. I feel like i should just let the music play out from here after all that now. Let's talk hyper local showy. i'm in making. We have a new mayor for the first time in. Gosh the mayor of how two thousand seven. Maybe robert record the mayor of making re-elected than they consolidated the city and the county and he became the commission chairman got elected to say. It's been a long robert records. Been there a while he's out. I liked the guy. And i realize i'm somewhat talking to to to my making audience see But just all of point here So so robert record is now retired term limited out good man and he's been replaced now by lester miller lester miller was lawyer. He's now the mayor of the combined city macon bibb county and one of the first thing he wants to do is stop building liquor stores in bibb county. Now my first reaction to this. If i'm going to be honest is what about the free market. Live free market decide and i do believe the free market should decide but he makes a compelling point when liquor stores are built in a lot of places now. They're built inside the poor area s in the feed addictions and the city has to clean up those problems that they the addictions feed the alcoholism. And the like and so he wants a moratorium on at least to look at them. And i just i. I'm i'm kind of impressed out of the gate. That's something he. I wouldn't think that would be one of the first he would wanna do. And i've got life free market free market And you know there are some rich parts of town that could probably use some higher end ones. But man i mean some of them come in into they just all look cheap But i i just. I i think that one of the things. Republicans need to figure out. There is a clear. Urban rural divide now in the country and the republicans are winning off the rural vote. The democrats are winning big off the urban suburban. What messages do the republicans used to take some of that back. In and part of that is we've seen this trend of minority communities moving to the gop it didn't translate into the runoff. I thought it would. Didn't what republicans what messaging do they have. And maybe they need to learn from local governments that that you know sometimes the free market is great and capitalism is awesome but we should also acknowledge that there are oftentimes those who prey on the poor whether it's chick schemes or or liquor stores and pawn shops and more. You gotta you gotta worry about what's happening to those communities to and find a way to to those people and the gop is gonna need a message beyond trump or not trump. They're going to need some principles that ideas that translate beyond rural america back into the suburbs. And if they can't find that they're going to keep losing.

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