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Cyber conflict between Ukraine and Russia
"Security firm proof point this morning released a study of chinese people's liberation army threat actor ta four thirteen. That's deployed a militias fire. Fox browser extension fryer fox in a surveillance campaign directed against tibetans. Ta four thirteen has also used scan box and support your malware in its operation so far this year the units targets include tibetan groups both domestic and in tibetan diaspora proof point assesses ta four thirteen tool said as limited but quite effective against dissident communities. Which after all have what proof point aptly calls a low barrier to compromise the campaign also suggests a shift to more open source tools on the part of the p. l. a. ukraine's national security and defense counsel has accused moscow of compromising a ukrainian government file sharing system the system of electronic interaction of executive bodies zd net thinks. The group responsible is gamero. Don a group widely regarded as a proxy for russian intelligence services. Kamera don has certainly been active against ukrainian targets in the past. But it's an odd duck while often thought of as an advanced persistent threat that is a government. Run operation in some respects. It doesn't really act like a government agency or even a straight up contractor like iran's mob group for one thing gamero don doesn't restrict it's targeting the way government operation normally would nor is it entirely indiscriminate in the way the lower end criminal gangs tend to be for all that gamero. Don is both noisy and aggressive. Research by cisco's talos group suggests that gamero don is also a mercenary player in the criminal. Criminal market talos wrote in. Its recent report on maradonna quote. We should consider the possibility of this. Not being an ap t at all rather being a group that provides services for other ap teas while doing its own attacks on other regions and quote so Kind of contractor perhaps a criminal organization that hires its services out to intelligence services but that also does business with other criminals while its principal state sponsor by general agreement russia turns a blind eye so gamero don is one of the most active and undeterred actors in the threat landscape it does the work of an ap t but it uses a cybercriminals style. It's worth noting that the operation the ns dc describes seems to be a software supply chain compromise as an s. d. c. tweeted. The attack belongs to the so-called supply chain attacks methods in means of carrying out this cyberattack allow to connect it with one of russia's hackers spy groups this is therefore a different matter entirely from the distributed denial of service attacks ukraine complained of at the beginning of the week the de dos attack targeted. Both the national security and council and the sba you security service bleeping. Computer reports and ukrainian authorities did claim that the attack had its origins in russia in as they put it russian traffic networks. The ns dc describes the diaz thusly vulnerable government web servers are infected with virus that covertly makes them part of a button. It used for de dos attacks on other resources at the same time. Security systems of internet providers identify compromised web servers as a source of attacks and begin to block their work by automatically blacklisting them. Thus even after the end of the de dos fix the attacked websites remain inaccessible to users and quote. But it seems that this denial of service harassment was probably the work of the criminal. Gang thought to be retaliating for the arrest of three of its members by the cranium. Participants in a big bilateral franco ukrainian law enforcement sweep alleged members of gregor. We should of course say allegedly engaged in criminal activity. These particular alleged. Hoods seem to have belonged to a gregor's ransomware sub gang french authorities in particular had blood in there is because as france entire reports. A gregor was allegedly implicated in ransomware attacks against hospitals. So paris in kiev. Good hunting. go get him. There allegedly bad guys researchers at mcafee this morning released their study of uc ransomware. A new strain detected earlier this year. It's another entry into the ransomware as a service market whose operators hawkins in both russophone an anglophone criminal the criminal markets. It uses the familiar attack. Vectors common in the ransomware space phishing emails of course but also exploitation of compromised accounts index has gained through unpacked. Systems with known vulnerabilities. Babba criminal customers seem so far to be most interested in hitting victims in the transportation healthcare plastics electronics and agriculture sectors. Their activity has extended to a number of geographical regions and the malware doesn't use the sorts of local language checks often employed to keep the operators out of water in countries whose legal systems tend to be vigilant and unforgiving mcafee's notes on abbott. See an interesting division of labor across its two principal linguistic communities. The operators will use an english language for them for announcements but a russian language forum for affiliate recruitment ransomware updates
U.S. charges Russian military hackers
"A story for you. May Two thousand seventeen voters in France went to the polls to elect a new French president just like in our election the before then Russian intelligence agencies in the Russian government played hard in the French election that year russian-owned websites pushing outlandish rumours about the centrist candidate Emmanuel macron. Those rumors were then processed into pieces Russian state media outlets. macron's rival was a far right candidate named Marine Le Pen she had inherited from her Holocaust denying Father Control of Francis Post. World War Two Fascist Party. So it was the neo-fascist party running against macron. Lapenne far-right neo-fascist campaign was explicitly bankrolled by a Russian state controlled bank. Marine Le Pen went to Moscow and met with Vladimir Putin at the Kremlin during the campaign. This was not subtle. But it was. Too much for Russia to pass up a divisive racist far right fascist candidate injecting chaos into the elections in a major. European. Democracy in twenty seventeen that's like catnip to Russia. Right? They want to undermine democracy everywhere. They will undermine Western countries in general however they can. But Russia's saved its boldest move for the eve of that French. Just two days before the vote. Russian. Hackers part of the same Russian military unit that had disseminated hacked democratic emails during the twenty, sixteen American election the before. They dumped tens of thousands of files, online, nine gigabytes of stolen emails and other information all hacked from Emmanuel Macron's campaign, and that might have become the dominant news story of the final weekend of that campaign. Before French voters went to the polls. It might have actually ended up upending that election if it were not for a quirk of French law, which imposes a media blackout on anything relating to the campaign for full day before voting starts all the way through until polls close on election day. That blackout period in French law precedes this whole scandal with Russia messing with the French election. But it ended up saving the day. The material that was hacked by Russian intelligence got posted online and France just hours before media blackout period began just minutes before the blackout began at midnight that night the macron campaign issued a statement warning that the hackers had inserted forged fake documents into the hack stolen material they pleaded with the media to not report on that junk. And the media didn't. They stuck to the rules. And in the end, Emmanuel macron beat the far-right neo-fascist Marine Le Pen by more than thirty points. And there's a couple of reasons for us be thinking about sort of relearning the story of that. Two thousand seventeen French election right now one is that the intelligence community is raising the alarm that Russian intelligence is executing an operation just like the one they did in France on us right now the supposedly Biden scandal that Rudy Giuliani has been shopping the scandal he. Managed to get printed in the New York Post which president trump has been gleefully promoting ever since including posing with a copy of that paper in the Oval Office that junk that Giuliani has been promoting is being actively investigated by federal investigators as potentially part of a hostile foreign influence operation illegally targeting our election and the intelligence community is investigating this Johnny on the spot. In part because they saw this coming in advance, this is in the New York Times last week quote, The Times reported last January the Ukrainian company were Hunter Biden was once on the Board respond had been hacked by the same Russian Intelligence Unit that hacked the Democratic National Committee in two thousand, sixteen last month US intelligence analysts contracted several people with knowledge of that hack. Asking them for further information because they picked up chatter that stolen burris, my emails would be leaked in the form of an October surprise among their chief concerns was that the burris material would be leaked alongside forged materials and it it's to hurt Biden's candidacy as Russian. Hackers did when they dumped real e mails alongside forgeries ahead of the French elections in two thousand seventeen. So that's what they did to Macron in two, thousand, seventeen they hacked all install all of this stuff from his campaign than they mixed it up with Ford stuffing dumped it right before the election. That's what the US intelligence community said. They believed was going to happen with Barista and sort of October surprise firm Rudy Giuliani. Thank right on time Rudy Giuliani shows up some emails from a mysterious source that are totally unverified and unverified able and only one Rupert Murdoch owned right wing tabloid will air that junk. Put it in their paper. So. That's one reason. The Russian operation in the two thousand, seventeen French election newly relevant to our lives right now, the Russians may be trying that exact same trick all over again except we don't have media blackout rules. The other reason that that two thousand seventeen Russian operation in France is newly relevant. Is that the guys who did it just got indicted by the US Justice Department today? Here they are the Russian military intelligence hackers who carried out that operation to interfere in the French election in two thousand seventeen the Justice Department says in the indictment today that these guys also launched major malware and hacking operations that shut down the power grid in Ukraine that hit the parliament in the nation of Georgia that chemical weapons investigators in the UK and Europe who were looking into the Russian poisoning of former Russian spy, Sergei scruple who was poisoned with a Russian nerve agent on British territory they say, they also orchestrated hacks that hit hospitals in companies. In the United States. They also organize tax that hit the two thousand eighteen winter Olympics quite a list. And? Although. One of the Russian hacker that was indicted today was previously indicted by Robert Muller in two thousand eighteen for his role in the hacking operation against the twenty sixteen election here in the US, today's indictment of these Russian hackers doesn't include any charges related to American election interference this year. That said the election. The American election is two weeks from tomorrow. It's hard to look today's indictment without trying to understand how it relates to our own election and what the Justice Department is trying to signal here. Is that the right way to look at this. Joining us now is Jeremy Bash. He served as chief of staff at the CIA and at the Defense Department under President Obama Jeremy Nice to see. Thanks for making time. It, Rachel. So, this is a lot. Going on the surprise announcement today from the Justice Department about the indictment of these Russian hackers when you look at this with your background in intelligence and your understanding of what Russia has done to target our democracy and others. What do you think is most important here for people to understand. Well I think was most important is that the GRU this Russian military organization that was responsible for the two thousand Sixteen Hacking Dump Operation Against the Democrats that was responsible for the two thousand seventeen election appearance in France as you noted, and is responsible for these militias cyber attacks globally including, against us, hospitals and. They are very active. They're very capable and they are in fact probably behind this this Russian. Intelligence operation at least a looks and appears to be Russian intelligence operation targeting the Biden campaign. Last. Week Andrew Weisman, who is part of the Miller investigation wrote in Law Fair about the decision that was made by bill bar earlier this year this spring to drop criminal charges against Russian companies that had participated in the attack on our election in two thousand sixteen and that didn't actually get a lot of attention when it happened in March I think in part because the country was overwhelmed by what was starting to happen to us in terms of covid why spent makes the case that before may have acted essentially improperly in dismissing those charges essentially signaling to Russia that the. US Criminal Law wouldn't be used against them as a tool if they wanted to interfere in the election this year I'm wondering if this might be a signal in the other direction, if this might be some sort of signal to brushback rush intelligence ahead of what appears to be their ongoing efforts to boost trump in his reelection effort. Hartono, racial. But what we do know is that there are mixed signals being sent by the US government here. Today we have the Justice Department indicting Russian hackers, but you've got the president of the United States welcoming condoning what looks apparently like a Russian intelligence operation targeting the Biden campaign remember Rachel that Rudy Giuliani. In Kiev, with Andrei Dirk Catch Ukrainian lawmaker who has been assessed by US intelligence and announced by our Treasury Department to be a Russian asset for the last decade. Giuliani goes to Kiev meets with Dir cash and he comes back and low these many months later, Giuliani surfaces up with these a very mysterious emails. So every Intelligence Professional Rachel that I've talked to the last twenty four hours says that this walks like a Russian intelligence disinformation campaign this talks like a Russian intelligence to information campaign. This is most likely Russian intelligence is permission campaign against the Biden team.
Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad
"The New York Post breaks a story about Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. And essentially, the story is this 100 Biden, who is in fact a crack, and I mean he is is a drug addict. He's an unsavory character. He has several hey, has had many affairs with various different Women. He's he's amassed. 100 100. Biden is just a mess is a mess of a human being. And not Joe's fault, per se. I mean, there were lots of good parents who have a message for Children. But it is Joe's fault that Joe has allowed Hunter Biden to run across the world, picking up sacks of cash by trading on his last name. And that is 100,000 has been doing for years. Right victim. Sacks of cash in China picked up sacks of cash in Ukraine, and for a long time conservatives have been focused in on 100 Biden's activities with regard to charisma. Now the original narrative with regard a breeze must breeze. My Satan is a natural gas and oil company in Ukraine, 100 was sitting on the board of the company and picking up checks for $50,000 a month despite the fact that he didn't know anything. About natural gas or oil, despite the fact that he himself was a personal mess. The only reason he was on that board is because he was related to Joe Biden. Joe Biden was then the vice president of the United States and largely in charge of Ukrainian policy. Well, Joe Biden and bragged on tape about getting one of the chief prosecutor's over in Ukraine fired He threatened with hold $1 billion in foreign aid to Ukraine until they fired this guy. Joe Biden always claimed that it had nothing to do with Hunter. This prosecutor claimed that he was about to investigate bereavement that was the company Hunter was working for. The chain has never quite been made. So there's a lot of controversy over the over whether Victor Shokhin, who was that prosecutor was actually going to prosecute charisma. There was indeed a lot of focus on Victor Shokhin is a possible corrupt figure inside Ukraine. Lot of people in Europe wanted. See Victor Show can go as the chief prosecutor in Ukraine, Biden has always claimed that his firing of victim Victor Shokhin was on the up and up. Soaking has always claimed that it was corrupt. That controversy has been out there for quite a while. What is unchallenged is that Joe Biden's family members ranging from his brother to his son, use his name in order to make money for themselves. And that does have an element of corruption to it. Now, The best that you can say about it is that Joe Biden turned a blind eye to it. Right. And this is sort of like show has argued Joe Biden has said, Well, I didn't know about it. Nobody ever did anything. Nobody ever did anything, man. Nobody. Come on, man. Come on. I never no, no. Come on. Okay, so Here's the bombshell. The New York Post reports that 100 Biden actually brokered a meaning between a Ukrainian oligarchs who was a breeze, MMA chief member and Joe Biden directly That's what one of these emails tended to suggest. So here's the story from the New York Post 100 Biden introduce his father, then Vice President Joe Biden, top executive in the Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressure government officials into Ukraine into in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who is investigating the company, according to emails obtained by the post. Never before revealed meeting is mentioned in a message of appreciation that are sky and an advisor to the Board of Charisma allegedly sent Hunter Biden on April 17th 2015, about a year after Hunter joined the charisma board and reported salary of up to 50 grand a month. The email reads Deer hunter. Thank you for inviting me to D C and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spend some time together. It's really an honor and a pleasure. An earlier email from May 2014. Also shows are sky reportedly bereavement number three exact asking Hunter for advice on how you could use your influence on the company's behalf. A blockbuster correspondence is The New York Post reports flies in the face of Joe Biden's claim that he has never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings. It's containing a massive from of data recovered from a laptop computer. Computer was dropped off, apparently at a repair shop in Biden's home state of Delaware in April 2019, according to the store's owner, other material extracted from the computer, including raunchy 12 Minute video that appears to show Admitted struggling with addiction problems smoking crack. Well engaged in a sex act with an unidentified woman, as well as numerous other sexually explicit images. The customer who brought in the water damage Mac book pro for a pair never paid for the service were retrieved it or a higher drive on which its contents restored, according to the shop owner who said he tried repeatedly to contact Shop owner couldn't positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden but said that the laptop for a sticker from the Beau Biden Foundation, named after hundreds of late brother and former Delaware attorney general Photos of a devil or a federal subpoena given to the Post show that both the computer and hard drive was seized by the FBI in December after the shop's owner says he alerted the feds to their existence before turning over the gear, according to the shop owner. He made a copy of the hard drive and later gave it to former Mayor Rudy Giuliani's later Barbara Costello. Steve Bannon, the former adviser to President Trump told the post about the existence of the hard drive in late September. Giuliani provided the post with a copy of it on Sunday. Less than eight months after Bashar sky thanks Hunter Biden for the introduction to his dad, the then vice president admittedly pressure Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk into getting rid of Prosecutor General Viktor Shokhin by threatening to withhold a $1 billion US loan guarantee during a December 2015 trip to Kiev by an infamously brag to the Council on Foreign Relations. I looked at them and said I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired. You're not getting money.
Modest Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition
"I'm Naomi Lewin welcome to classics for kids. Viktor Hartmann was a nineteenth century, Russian artist and architect and a good friend of composer mode as his ski. When Hartman died suddenly at the age of thirty nine was dark ski was devastated. Hartman's friends organized a memorial exhibit of his work, and then resort ski created his own tribute to Hartman a piano piece that portrayed ten artworks from the show called pictures at an exhibition. Quite, a few people have made orchestra versions of pictures at an exhibition. The best known one is by Maurice, Richard. Pictures at an exhibition starts off with that promenade which pops up several more times. Zarzusky meant it as strolling music to lead you through the gallery from one picture to the next. The first picture in Zork Skis Exhibition is a gnome actually it's a sketch for a nutcracker shaped like gnome sort of a Goblin who lives under the earth. then. The promenade leads to a painting of a very old castle from medieval times with a troubadour traveling singer outside it in reveals orchestration the saxophone is the instrument that plays the part of the troubadour. From there we promenade onto a picture of a nanny taking care of some kids playing in the twee gardens in Paris. Doesn't it sound like they're teasing each other and? Yeah Yeah. No promenade before the next picture, which is of a wagon with huge wheels the kind of wagon that was pulled by oxen. The title of the picture is bid low, which is Polish for Oscar. After the last of the promenades we come to the ballet of the unhatched chicks. Victor Hartman's designed for some ballet costumes in his sketch to people where egg outfits with bird head helmets but I think the music sounds more like they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Next to that picture repair of Pencil sketches of a rich man and a poor man, the rich one sounds pretty snooty. Roll. Along. In the poor man sounds like he's crying. Back to France for the next. Women Gossiping in the marketplace in the town of Moses. Then a couple of very creepy scenes I some catacombs, underground tombs full of old bones. It almost sounds like they're about to get up and walk around to the promenade tune doesn't it? The next bit creepy nece is a sketch for clock based on an old Russian fairy tale about a witch named Baba Yoga who supposedly lives in a scary hut that's perched on fouls or chickens legs. The very last picture in the exhibition is the designed Viktor. Hartmann entered in a competition to build a gate that would be the grand entrance to the city, of Kiev. If, the great gate of Kiev theme reminds you of the promenade. Now, you know where that strolling music was edited all along.
Cristiano Ronaldo tests positive for COVID-19
"Cristiano Ronaldo has left the Portuguese national team after testing positive for Corona virus, but he's not showing any symptoms. 35 will not play against Sweden on Wednesday after playing in Sunday scoreless draw France he could miss you. Ventress is champions the opening match against Kiev next Tuesday as well as for sure. The league match Saturday against Cortona.
Modest Mussorgsky: The Mighty Handful
"Hello welcome to classics for Kids I'm Naomi Lewin. The mighty handful may sound like a rock band or a bad babysitting job and the mighty five may sound like a basketball team. But both of those were nicknames for a group of Nineteenth Century Russian composers interested in developing a Russian sound for classical music. Obviously, there were five of them. Mighty handful refers to five fingers. The ringleader of the mighty handful was mealy Bollock, a pianist and composer who wanted to promote nationalism in Russian music in music nationalism refers to a south. That's distinct Taylor country. Sometimes, that's done by using folk tunes, rhythms, or dance forms and a piece of music, but it can also mean including historical characters or legend from a region. While Akira, wrote an overture in which he put pieces of three Russian folk songs. Eventually Bala of became director of the Russian Court Orchestra. But for a while he quipped music and went to work for the Russian railroad in fact, every member of the mighty five held a nonmusical job at one time or another. Alexander Borodino was never a professional musician. He was a professor of chemistry. From the time he was a kid Borodino was very musical but he decided to study science instead he wound up founding the first Russian School of Medicine for women. After he met Bollock. The great cheerleader for Russian Music Borodino. Began composing. But since science and medicine took up most of his time, he didn't get a chance to finish very many pieces. One of the other members of the mighty hand full wound up putting Borodin's opera Prince Ebor into its final form, the man who cleaned up Laura Dean's music and music by quite a few other composers was Nikolai rimsky-korsakov. Rimouski. Korsakov was in the navy when he met up with Mealy, Bollock Kiro and decided that. Should be his life rimsky-korsakov quit the maybe to study composition after teaching himself to compose he wound up as a professor of composition at the new conservatory. In Saint Petersburg Russia rimsky-korsakov was great at orchestration knowing what instruments to assign to which lines of music in order to get the best sound. He finished a lot of pieces that some of his fellow Russians left unfinished and he also rearranged a lot of music some of which didn't necessarily rearranging. The. Last member of the mighty five was Cesar. Has An unusually UN Russian sounding last name because his father was French. In fact, he was a French military officer who decided to stay in Russia after being taken prisoner there while fighting with Napoleon's army. says. We started out in the military too but you guessed it after he met Mealy Bala. Cesar qe became a composer. Even, though he had no Russian ancestors, his mother was Lithuanian qe became a big champion of Russian music just like the other members of the mighty handful. There, you have the other for Russian composers who made up the mighty handful. Bella Kiev Alexander Barra Dean Cesar qe and Nikolai rimsky-korsakov. The fifth of course was this month's composer Modeste Ski. That's no Muss G. N. O., M. US. The GNOME. An m. e. from pictures at an exhibition by modest Mussorgsky's
About Modest Mussorgsky
"Hello I'm Naomi Lewin welcome to classics for. Kids. Modeste. MAZUROWKSI was born in eighteen, thirty nine in the village of Carnival. In Russian his name is pronounced Moose key which sounds like it has something to do with cows but it doesn't. Muzar is the Russian word for garbage. Even though his family was descended from nobility, the story goes that one of Zorzi or Muzar excuse ancestors had quite a potty mouth. So people started referring to him by the sort of language he used Mazaar ski didn't have a very common first name either Modeste in Russian means the same thing as when you pronounce it in English modest. resort Steve got his first piano lessons from his mother and it was clear early on that he was a very good pianist but back, then the oldest son inherited the family house and land and the second son went into the army. Was the second son. So after he graduated from Military Boarding School, he became an army officer but not for long when he was eighteen was ski met Russian composer, Mealy Bella, Kiev, and started studying with him. The next year was ski left the army to become a composer. pollock was only a couple of years older than me. And he was very passionate about developing a Russian style of classical music for years. He and four other Russian composers met every Saturday night to study music together. Bollock didn't actually know that much about music but that didn't stop him from dissecting and criticizing the other's throat. He complained so much about one piece of Zork Skis that Missouri Ski finally stopped working with him. was. Exceed thought the composition he called his witches was pretty good. Then he was right we know those which is as a night on bald, mountain? The story behind a night on bald mountain may well be one of the Russian folk tales resort ski learned from his nanny while he was growing up quite a few of those legends turned up later on in his music. When Muzar oxy was twenty four. There were political changes in Russia and his family lost most of its land and money since McKee wasn't making any money composing he had to get a job. He went to work for the government, but he kept on composing was arc ski loved writing for the voice. Lots of songs including one about a very pesky insect a league. uh-huh. And Ski also wrote several operas. His masterpiece is a Russian czar or ruler who lived in the fifteen hundreds Boris enough. A. No Moose and Squirrel Boris good enough is not related to buddies bad enough. But now you know where the folks who wrote the rocky and full winco cartoons came up with the name. One of Mubarak's Ke's best known pieces. Pictures at an exhibition was written in memory of an artist friend of his who died unexpectedly. More about pictures at an exhibition in a few weeks, I told you that resort ski was one of a group of five Russian composers interested in promoting Russian classical music next week more about the other members of the group.
Ukraine military plane crash: Cadets among 26 people killed
"A Ukrainian military aircraft carrying 20 cadets. His crash, killing almost everyone on board, such as coming. The area of the cross found two more bodies the day after the crash. The plane was carrying a crew of seven and 20 students from a military aviation school when it crashed and burst into flames while coming in for landing at the local airport about 250 miles east of the capital, Kiev. Ukranian president, blood donors, Alinsky declared a day of mourning for the crash victims. Zelinsky harvested the crash area the following day called for a full assessment of the condition of the country's military equipment. And said he wanted an official reports on the crashed by the 25th of
Ukrainian Military Plane Crashes, Killing 22
"A Ukrainian airforce plane has crashed. The plane went down on Friday, killing almost everyone on board is Kai Ming area of the cross on two more bodies the day after the crash. The plane was carrying a crew of seven and 20 students from a military aviation school when it crashed the best into flames. What coming in for landing at the local airport about 200? 50 miles east of the capital, Kiev, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelinski declared a day of mourning for the crash victims. Sedensky harvested the crash area the following day called for a full assessment of the condition of the country's military equipment on said he wanted an official reports on the crashed by the 25th of October.
Ukraine plane crash death toll rises to 26, with 1 survivor
"Cranium and a tree and caught carrying twenty cadets has crashed killing everyone on board such as came in the area of the Croft found two more bodies a day off to the crash the plane was carrying a crew of seven and twenty students from the tree aviation school when it crashed and burst into flames were coming in for landing on the knuckle apples about two hundred and fifty miles east of the capital Kiev Ukrainian president roh to Nathan Skeete declared a day of mourning for the crash victims since getting this to the crash area the following day cool close to the session of the condition of the country's military equipment and said he wanted an official report on the crash by the twenty fifth of October I'm Karen Thomas
In Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko will do anything to cling on to power
"Generously as long term leader Alexander Lukashenko has told Russian media that he'd maybe satellite along in the presidency. But that only he could protect Belarusians Now. In an interview with Russian journalists, he said he wouldn't step down and leave generous, adding that if he did, his supporters would be slaughtered. Lukashenka has been facing massive street protests since claiming victory and disputed presidential elections last month. Earlier, one of the main opposition leaders. Maria call Yes. Nika was detained at the border with Ukraine from Kiev. Joan official reports when other opposition leaders fled Belarus, Maria Kalashnikov, ER stayed behind. Her cropped blond hair was a regular sight at the four weeks of protests that have followed the disputed election. On Monday morning, she was picked up by masked men in an unmarked vehicle in central Minsk on that night, along with two opposition colleagues. She was taken to the border with Ukraine. The two men crossed into Ukraine. But Miss Cholestin cover did not. The exact circumstances aren't clear. But it appears she may have torn up her own passport to make it impossible for the authorities to force her out. The exiled Belarusian opposition leaders Atlanta Tikhonov Sky has called for sanctions against the government of President Lukashenka, the former presidential candidate called for the international community to intervene. My country. My people now need help. We need international pressure on this regime. On this one individual desperately cleaning onto flower being it sanctions on individuals who issue and execute criminal orders that violate international norms and human rights.
Does Halos Delay Help PS5s Launch
"I do want to jump into what is the biggest next-gen news and it's not playstation five related. Exactly. But I do think it will have an impact on Kiev's five going into this fall, and that is, of course, the news that just a little bit before we started recording which is the fact that Halo Infinite has been delayed into twenty twenty one. It's no longer set for a day at least with the xbox series X. so as xbox one empty versions are also coming out next year. Alongside, that Microsoft did kind of help soften the blow I think mentioned. Oh, by the way it's coming in November. Again, not an exact date but narrowing it down to a month and surprise surprise it's November but they also did sort of mentioned in. The outlined what their plans are for the launch window. So they said, you know there will be over a hundred xbox series acts optimize titles in between games that are made exclusively for next Jenin pc or for games that are made for xbox one as well. That will have like series ax improvements, and of course, they're also touting the fact that they have four generations of backward compatibility, and so you can play thousands of games at launch. I want to get to sort of the way that they're framing the entirety of all of this stuff but I wanna take a look specifically at Halo I. Th they they give some explanation for it. Essentially saying there's been a number of factors that caused the delay and one of them. Of course, being be impact of COVID. Nineteen on you know working from home and having to deal with such big title from home obviously three three as a huge. Studio and I think a lot of the discussion we've seen since this announcement has definitely been a whole you know trying to get in the first take of whether or not. This is good for Microsoft Japan, for Microsoft good for halo bad for halo good for Sony Bad. For Sony, I? Think we've seen like everyone trying to jump the gun whether or not it is good or bad and I think the answer is somewhere in the middle. I definitely want to hear both of your thoughts about it because I've been thinking to myself. Of course, we will be hours but Brian how did how did you take this announcement? I think in terms of means for Xbox this fall and what it means for playstation this fall so Obvious Caveat I'm not a big Halo Guy. That said I am a big video guy I'd love console launches I'm fascinated in the between a large swath of dedicated consumers becoming not so dedicated hopping from platform to platform the sort of like you know the turns throughout the time of of how People have gravitated towards systems and made them. Dominant launch console is always interesting to me. My immediate reaction was like this really sucks. Not even because I had any full intention of playing this at launch although I do have intention buying a serious a series excellent they one but because this, I think. This changes. The conversation around launch consoles, launch games. It changes the conversation around A justification people might have to gravitate towards the system which I think deflates competition a little bit and I think competition is a tremendously important thing in this and every medium and so. It's kind of a bummer. It is interesting though because I do think that like it opens up a different outlet for Microsoft, as you can see, they're already doing with that press release this morning or this afternoon which will try to differentiate their presence. This November against playstations I think playstation is going to be like. This is this big gigantic, shiny new thing with exclusive games and Spiderman and Microsoft's. It's going to be like thousands, hundreds, millions they're going to say like with playstation they were going to be like we have this. Is must have individual detail this thing, this game, this moment, this controller, this new design and Microsoft is GonNa go we have so much stuff just tons and tons of stuff, and so I think it'll be sort of a jack of all trades master of none historic. If you look back especially this generation launch game sucked like. Like it was really not a lot going on The the best exclusive for US exclusive there you know the xbox one which rolled out with a litany of its own personal problems launched a with exclusives like there was a forza obviously. Dead rising. Four. Killer instinct like. Big stuff but not logos. Yeah exactly. Not Really. Like, swing for the fences you know be the first ten, million type of situation
Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers
"Everybody from the British. Ask this week's interview. Episode has any Greenberg senior writer at wired. He just SORTA book called Sand Worm New Era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's Miss, dangerous hackers, it is all about hacking group inside of the Russian government called San Worm. They were responsible for the most damaging cyber warfare attacks over the past year there behind not PECI. The hackers took out in the mayor shipping line hospitals across the U. K San has totally escalated. What we think of Cyber War, and he's book gets all into how they were discovered how they were flushed out the. The intricacies of these various hacks. It's super interesting. The book is a thrill ride. If you're looking for something that isn't the virus. This is like a thriller, a highly recommended. It was really fun to talk to her about the stuff. one thing I. WanNa know we're all at home so during this in every might hear some kids in the background. I asked you just be a little forgiving that we're all. We're all dealing with it and he was a great interview. Check Out Sandy Greenberg of sand worm, a new era of cyber war and the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous hack. Any Greenberg your senior writer at wired you're also the author of Sand Worm, new era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous. Welcome glad to be here so even writing about cybersecurity frontier I think you just said two thousand six and writing about Cybersecurity, but this book sand worm as I was reading it. It seems like it's called the new era of cyber war. It seems like there's been a huge turn in sort of state-sponsored. Particularly Russians sponsored cyber attacks. How did you come onto that notion? How did you begin reading this book I'm I'm very curious how you see. See that turn happening well. In late twenty sixteen, my former colleague Kim Zetter she had been the one who really covered state sponsored hacking in cyber war stuff, but she left wired, and this was also at the time. When you know Russian hackers were meddling in the US election, they'd hacked the democratic. National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Clinton Campaign, so my editors were really primes on face, mantra hacking all of a sudden, but what they? They really what they told me they wanted was a actually like a big takeover of the whole magazine. All about cyber war, but cyber war to me is different than those kinds of espionage election, meddling tactics so I went looking for no real cyber war story, which means to me like a actual disruptive cyber attacks, and as I looked around. It seemed like the place where that was really happening was in Ukraine not really in the US in fact maybe. Maybe what was happening in? Ukraine seemed to me like it was in some ways, the only real full blown cyber war that was actually occurring where Russian hackers were not just attacking the election which they had done, they tried this spoof the results of a presidential election, but they had also attacks media and destroyed their computers. They had attacked government agencies and tried to like destroy entire networks, and then they had turned off the power for the first time. In December of two thousand, fifteen, the the first actual blackout triggered by hackers, and just as I was look into this happened again the the effect, the seem hacker group caused a blackout this time in the capital of Kiev so I wince looking in Ukraine for this cyber war story that. Turned into a cover story for wired that kind of gave editors what they wanted, but then also kept unfolding This cyber war kept growing in scope and scale and. The original story written for wired was kind of about the fact that you could look to Ukraine to see the future of cyber war that will what was happening. There might soon spread to the rest of the world. And that is actually what happens to like just after we publish that cover story to same hackers released this climactic terrible cyber attack in Ukraine. Called Not Petiot that spread beyond Ukrainians became the worst cyberattack history cost ten billion dollars, so when that happened, that was when I saw that there was potential to do a book about this that it was not just a kind of case study about Ukraine or even kind of predictive story, but a an actual full story arc about this one group that had carried out the what I would say was not only the first. First Real Cyber War, but the worst cyberattack in history and the you know I wanted to capture the the Ark of that story in the effects, the real experience of cyber war. Yeah, so the group is called sand worm in this is just one of the the sort of opening arcs of the book is how they've come. They come to be named this because references and code walk people through just like it's so. relatable that like even these hackers are using using this language that leads them recalled Sandwich Tell people about it. So when I started to look into the origins of this group after that second blackout attack I I found that this this company called eyesight partners which have been acquired by fire I I, said partners was the first to find these hackers in twenty, fourteen, basically using fishing in kind of typical espionage tactics, plant malware in the networks of typical Russian hacking targets like groups across Eastern, Europe and NATO in a look like what they were doing was just kind of typical espionage. They were planning. This by wear calls lack energy buds will first of all they could see that they were rushing, because they had this server that they were using to administer some of these attacks and they. They left the server, so anybody could look at it in. There was a kind of Russian language to file for how to use black energy on the service, so these guys seem like they were rushing, but even more interesting in some ways. was that they to track each victim each instance of black energy? This malware has little campaign code in each campaign was a reference to the science fiction novel Dune and you know so like one of them was something about Iraq is, and then one of them is about the sutter cars, these like imperial soldiers in in that SCI FI universe so I said partners named this group sand worm, because well just because it's a cool. Name associated with doing, but it turned out to me. It became this very powerful because a sandwich miss this monster that lies beneath the surface, and occasionally arises from underground to do terribly destructive things. partners didn't know that at the time, they they soon afterward realized what sand. was doing was not just espionage, but they were actually doing reconnaissance for disruptive cyberattacks. They were also hacking power grids. They were planning black energy, not only in the European Eastern European targets in the US power grid networks as well. The Ultimately Syndrome was the first twenty fifteen to cross that line in use black energy as the first step in a multi step attack that led to a blackout. So this was not just espionage really was kind of like you know this monster that rises from under the ground to do terrible acts of mass destruction that came to pass so one of the things that comes up over in the book. Is this growing sense of dread from security researchers and analysts? Oh this is an imminent threat to the united. States just Ukraine, but like this is happening here and then there's a sense that the United States actually open the door to this kind of warfare with stuxnet. which was an attack on Iran? How how did those connect for you that it seemed like there's a new rule of engagement new set of rules of engagement for cyber warfare that actually the United States implicitly created with with stuxnet by attacking Iran. Yeah, I mean I tried to highlight. Clearly sand worm are the real bad guys in the story, they are the actual hacker group that did these terribly reckless destructive attacks that actually in some cases put people's lives at risk, the kind of in some parts of the story they actually shutdown medical record systems and I. Think may have cost people's lives with cyber attacks today they are the actual antagonist here, but I also want to highlight the ways that the US government is is partially responsible for the state of Cyber War, and there are a few ways that that's true. I The US! Open the Pandora's box of cyber war with stuxnet. This piece of now where that. That was used to destroy Iranian nuclear enrichment centrifuges that was the first piece of our that actually have caused that physical disruption destruction, and we now see Sandra doing the same thing in Ukraine. In in fact, in some ways around the world, also the the US hordes, these kind of zero day, secret hacking techniques, some of which were stolen and leaked and used by sand worm, but then I think the in fact, the biggest way that I tried to highlight that the US is responsible or complicit or negligent. Here is that we did not call allows what Santorum was doing in Ukraine and say to Russia. We know what you're doing. This is unacceptable. Nobody should be turning out the lights. Two civilians with cyber attacks. There wasn't a message like that I. mean the Obama White House sent a message to Russia over this kind of cyber hotline to say your election hacking is not okay. We see what you're doing and we want you to stop, but they said nothing about a tube blackout attacks in Ukraine, and that was kind of implicit signal to Russia. They could keep. Keep escalating, and even as all the cyber security, researchers and Ukrainians were warning that what was happening to Ukraine, would soon spread to the rest of the world, the US government ignore this both Obama, and then the trump administration until that prediction came to pass and a sand worm cyberattack did spread to the rest of the world, and it was too late, and we all suffered globally as a result, so let's talk about patch it. WAS CATASTROPHIC IN SCOPE, right? It took out the mayor shipping line, which is a massive business. It took out some hospitals in UK like it was huge in scope. I don't think people really put it all together. Talk about how it started and how big it grew. Yeah, so not too was kind of like big apotheosis sandwich, where all of these predictions of the terribly destructive things they were doing to the rest of the world came to pass but it did it started in Ukraine. They hijacked this. The the software updates of this accounting software called me doc that is basically used by everybody in Ukraine. The quicken turbo tax of Ukraine. If you do business in Ukraine, you have to have this installed, so sanborn hijack the updates of that news to push out this worm to thousands of victims mostly in Ukraine, but it was a worm, so it's spread the mmediately end quickly kind of carpet bombs. The entire Ukrainian Internet's every computer at spread to would encrypt permanently. You could not recover the computer, so it very quickly took down pretty much every. Every Ukrainian government agency twenty two banks multiple airports for hospitals in Ukraine that I. could count and in each of these cases. What is eight took them down. I mean it destroyed essentially all of their computers, which requires sometimes weeks or months to recover from, but then as you know, this is a worm that does not respect national borders. So even though it was, it seemed to be an attack intended to disrupt Ukraine. It immediately spread beyond Ukraine's borders. Borders to everybody who had this accounting software installed? That was doing business in Ukraine and some people who didn't so that includes Maersk. The world's largest shipping firm and Fedex and Mondelez, which owns cadbury, NABISCO and ranking manufacturing firm that makes tylenol in Merck. The Pharmaceutical Company in New Jersey on each of these companies lost hundreds of millions of dollars. The scale of this is kind of difficult to capture but I in the book I tried to. To I focused in part Maersk because it is just a good company to look at because you can. They had this gigantic global physical machine that is they have seventy six ports around the world that they own as well as these massive ships that have tens of thousands of shipping containers on them. And I told the story of how on this day seventeen of their terminals of were entirely paralyzed by this attack with ships arriving with just. Piles of containers on them. Nobody could unload. Nobody knew what was inside of nobody knew how to load or unload them with around the world of seventeen terminals, thousands of trucks, Semitrailers, carrying containers were lining up in Lyons miles long because the gates that were kind of checkpoints to check in the these trucks to drop something off or pick it up. They were paralyzed as well. This was a fiasco on a global scale is responsible for a fifth of the world's lable shipping capacity. They were truly just a rendered brain dead by this attack, but yeah displayed out at all of these different victims MERC had to borrow their own each vaccine from the Center for Disease Control because they're manufacturing. Manufacturing was disrupted by this, and it ultimately spread to a company called nuance, nate speech to text software. They have a service that does this for hospitals across the US to dozens of our possibly hundreds of American hospitals at this backlog of transcriptions to medical records that were lost because of this, and that resulted in patients, being do for surgeries or transfers, other hospitals in nobody knew their medical records were updated. I mean this was scale where hundreds of hospitals each of which has thousands of patients missing changes the medical records. We don't know what the effects of that work, but very well could've actually harmed people's health. Our lives I mean the scale of not petty is very difficult to. Get your mind around, but we do know that you know monetarily cost ten billion dollars, which is by far the biggest number we've ever seen, but it also had this this kind of harder to quantify toll on people's lives, so it it you know you read about it at length and wired. Obviously these companies go down of ripples in mainstream sort of general press, but I don't feel like people really not like Oh. This Russian group called San Worms sponsored by the Russian government. Unleash this attack in it caused this cascading effect of failure and disaster cost in that because we know what we can attribute it to the government, our government. I don't feel like that connection got made for people. What is the gap between other as a hack and Oh, this is actually a type of warfare engagement, because that that connection seems very tenuous. I think for a lot of people. Even as sort of the more general mainstream press covers this stuff. Yeah, you know. I don't think that that's is just like the nature of. Of Cyber War I think that was a failing that that lack of connection is a failing on our government's parts, and on you could say even on the part of some of these victims like these large companies I mean I at the time did not pitch it happened. I was fully on the trail of standard within days. I was talking to cyber security researchers who? Who had piece together? Some of the forensics to show the not petiot was Sandra that it was a Russian state-sponsored attack in yet none of those companies that I mentioned mercker Mondelez or Maersk or Fedex, or any of them wanted to say the Russia had done this to them and know governments were talking about either like the Ukrainian government was. They're always willing to point. Point the finger at Russia, but the US government was not, and you know that to me seemed to be just kind of I mean I felt like I was being gas. Let's at that point. I had watched Russia due to Ukraine for a long time at that point tonight. I sort of understood that NATO in the West. We had this kind of cruel logic that. Ukraine is not us. Russia can do what it likes to Ukraine because they're not NATO not e you. They are Russia's sphere of influence or something I think that that's very wrongheaded, but at least it made sense. You know to have that that viewpoints, but now this attack had spread from Ukraine to hit American soil American companies in many cases and yet still the US government was saying nothing I just thought this was bizarre and you know so i. For months I was like. Trying to get any of these companies to tell the story of of their experiences, not Peta I was trying to figure out why the US government wasn't talking about the fact that this was a Russian cyberattack and ultimately I. Think it was I. think it was kind of I know partly disorganization negligence. I think it may have something to do with the fact that the. The? Trump administration doesn't like talking about Russian hackers for obvious reasons, but eight months after it took eight months ultimately for the US government to finally say not that it was a was Russia it was the worst cyberattack in history, and then a month later. The White House impose consequences in put new sanctions on Russia and response, but it took nine months and more importantly it took. Multiple years this without was the first time this was twenty eighteen, and the Russian cyber war in Ukraine had started around the fall of Twenty fifteen, so that's just incredible span of negligence when the US government said nothing about these escalating unfolding. Acts, of Cyber Award that there should have been unacceptable from the very beginning I mean these are the kind of quintessential acts of state sponsored cyber attacks on civilians, trying out the lights. You know that's the kind of thing that I believe that the US government should have called out and drawn a red line across at the very beginning took ears, so I do think it was a big failing. Of of diplomacy, it just seemed like that part of the problem, and this is kind of an expression is it's so hard to describe like if the Russian government sent fighter jets to America and live their support. Okay, like everyone understood, you can see it. You can understand what happened there. In the you know, there's like a however many decades of movies about how to fight that war. This is a bunch of people in a room typing. Like it there's just an element of this where the dangerous Oh federal where the attack is invisible, and while the effects might be very very tangible, the causes are still sort of mysterious people so. My question is who is sandwich. What what do we know about them? Where do they work? What are they like? Do we have a sense of how this operation actually operates? In some ways the the biggest challenge of reporting this book, and I spent essentially the third act of the book, the last third of the reporting of the book, trying to answer the question of who is in worm, who are these people? Where are they located? What motivates them and I guess to partially spoil the ending here. They are a unit of the year you. They are a part of Russia's military intelligence agency, which is responsible for you know, this is not a coincidence. They are responsible for election meddling responsible for the attempted assassination of You. chemical weapons in the United Kingdom they're responsible for the downing of a seventeen as commercial passenger jet over Ukraine were three hundred innocent people died on the G. R.. You are this incredibly reckless callous out military intelligence agency, but they act like kind of almost just cut through mercenaries around the world. Doing Russia's bidding in ways that are very scary, so I threw essentially like a combination of excellent work of a bunch of security researchers who I was speaking to combined with some confirmation from US intelligence agencies, and then ultimately some other clues from the investigation of Robert Muller into meddling all these things combined created the trail that led to one group within the JERE. You that were you know I? Eventually had some names and faces even address of this this group, and all that was actually only finally fully confirms After the book came out Justin in recent months when the White House finally actually was the State Department's. End as well as the UK on Australian and other governments together finally said yes, sand worm is in fact that this unit of the year you so this theory that I developed in positive near the end of the book was finally basically confirmed by governments just in recent months. So one thing that strikes me at that is I, think of the Russian military things. Gru is being foreboding being obviously, they're very very good at this other a buttoned up in then they have like a incredible social media presence that kind of POPs up throughout the book that distracts from what doing. They set up Gucci for two point Oh when they were doing the DNC hacks that fed to wikileaks in the. That account insisted it was just guy. They set up the shadow brokers which was. I read. It is just like your some goof-balls like they wanted to seem a lot dumber and a lot smaller than they were. They were very effective at it to people I. Talk About those that strategy, and then I guess my question have is like a re better at seeing that strategy for what it is well. You make a really interesting point. The uses these false flags like throughout their recent history that we I should say we don't know that they were responsible for shadow brokers. In fact, nobody knows who shot a brokers. The shadow brokers truly are, and they are in some ways the biggest mystery in this whole story, this one group that hacked the NSA apparently and leaked a bunch of their zero day hacking techniques, or maybe they were even say insiders. We still don't know the answer to that question, but the other other incidents you mentioned. That are you are responsible for this Guja for two point zero fake hacktivists leaked a bunch of the Clinton documents. They're responsible for other false flags like they at one point to call themselves the Cyber Caliphate pretended to be Isis. They've a pretended to be like patriotic pro. Russian Ukrainians at some point they they're always like wearing different masks ends. They're very deceptive. in the a later chapter of the book, some of the biggest one of the biggest attacks they. They did was this attack on the twenty thousand Olympics where they not only wore a false mask, but they actually had layers of false flags where as cyber security researchers W. This melwert was used to destroy the entire back end of the two thousand eighteen winter Olympics. Just as the opening ceremony began, this was a catastrophic events. The aware had all of these fake clues made look like it was Chinese or North Korean or maybe Russian. Nobody could tell it was like. It was this kind of confusion bomb almost designed to to just make researchers throw up their hands. Give up on attributing mallards. Any particular actor was only through some amazing detective work by some of the analysts that I spoke to the able to cut through those false flags identify that sand was behind this essentially, but yeah, it's it is a one very real characteristic of the jury you that they are almost they seem to almost take pleasure or like be showing off their deception capabilities to and their evolving those capabilities they are getting more deceptive over time as fake gets more, destructive aggressive. Advertising content when I say Utopia what comes to mind? Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the Pathak social body. Everybody in that place. Everybody happy now. While the peacock original series brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. The concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. 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Not Connected Right, but the way they throughout the book the way they execute East campaigns they're deeply connected, and that seems like not only just a new kind of warfare, and you kind of craft, but some just consistently seems to work in surprising ways like the tech press is GonNa. Be Like Gucci. I says this and we're. There's never that next step of also we think it's Russian government, and that seems like first of all I'm dying. I imagine the meeting right. I would love to be a fly on the wall of the meeting where they decide what their twitter name is going to be today. I'm very curious how they evolve those attacks in such a way that it just seems to be more and more effective time. Yeah, I mean. I also love to have been those meetings in. It's my one kind of regret in this book that I never actually got. Interviews, it's almost an impossible thing to do. They liked find defectors from the R., you or something. He will tell those stories at a knock it murdered I mean. It's kind of a possible, but but. In some cases? I think your earlier points. They almost seem kind of bumbling in these things they do them in a very improvisational way. for two point Oh seemed almost like it was a justice thing they invented on the spot, tried to cover up some of the the accidental ups like they had left russian-language formatting errors in the documents that they had leaked from the DNC, so they admitted this guy who appeared the next day and started. Talking about being a Romanian. Friends as motherboard Lorenza, Franceschi decry he started this conversation. Align with with Guja for two point, oh basically proved at the guy could not actually properly speak Romanian. BE Russian speaker. In fact, it was. It was almost comical at the same time. They're using very sophisticated hacking techniques doing destructive attacks on a massive scale, but they're also. They seem like they're kind of making it up as they go along. They do things that don't actually seem very kind of strategically smart. They kind of seem like they're trying to impress their boss for the day. Sometimes with just like some sometimes, it's just seems like the Jere. You wakes up in asks themselves. Like what can we blow up today? Rather than thinking like? How can we accomplish the greater strategic objectives of the Russian Federation? So they are fascinating in that way and very stringent colorful group. That's I think one of the biggest questions I have here is. We spend a lot of time trying to imagine what flat and Mirror Putin wants. You know when he grows up, but it. None of this seems targeted like what is the goal for Russia to disrupt the Winter Olympics right like. Is there a purpose to that? Is that just a strike fear? Is it just to? EXPAND THAT SUV influenced. Is it just to say we have the capability furious is there? has there ever really been the stated goal for this kind of cyber warfare? That one is particularly mystifying. I mean you can imagine why Russia would want to attack the Olympics. They were banned from the two thousand Eighteen Olympics doping, but then you would think that they might want to attack the Olympics and send a message maybe like eight deniable message a message that you know if you continue to ban us. We're GONNA. Continue to attack you like like any terrorists would do, but instead they attacked the winter. Olympics in this way, that really seemed like they were trying not to get caught, and instead like make it look like the was Russia North Korea? And then you have to like what is the point of that was? The could kind of. Sit there in Moscow and kind of like rub their hands together in gleefully. Watch this chaos unfolds. It almost really does seem like it was petty vindictive thing that they just for their own emotional needs wanted to make sure that nobody could enjoy the Olympics if they were not going to enjoy them I that was, but that one is i. think outlier in some ways for the most part you can kind of see. The Russia is advancing. The G. R. You that sand worm is advancing something that does generally make sense which is that. In Ukraine for instance, they're trying to make Ukraine look like a failed state. They're trying to make Ukrainians. Lose faith in their security. Services are trying to prevent investors globally from funneling money into Ukraine trying to create a kind of frozen conflict, as we say in Ukraine where there's this constant perpetual state of degradation. They're not trying to conquer the country, but they're trying to create a kind of permanent war in Ukraine and would cyber war. You can do that beyond the traditional front end. It is in some ways the same kind of tactic that they used in other places like the US which. which here we saw more than influence operation that they were hacking leaking organizations like democratic campaign organizations and anti doping organizations to kind of so confusion to embarrass on their targets. They're trying to influence like the international audiences opinion these people, but in Ukraine, it is in some ways, just a different kind of influence operation where they're trying to influence the world's view of Ukraine. Influence Ukrainians view of their themselves under government to make them feel like they are in a war zone even when their kid hundreds of miles from the actual fighting. That's happening on the eastern fronts in the eastern region of. Of Ukraine so in a book you you you go to Kiev. You spent time in Ukraine. Is there a sense in that country that while sometimes light goes out sometimes our TV stations. Their computers don't boot anymore. Because they got rewritten, the Hydros got Zeros like. Is there a sense that this is happening? Is there a sense the defy back is there does Microsoft deploy you know dozens of engineers to to help fight back. How does that play out on the ground there? Yeah, I mean to be fair. Ukrainians are very stoic about these things and regular. Ukrainian citizens were not bothered by you know. Know a short blackout. They didn't particularly care you know. This blackout was the first ever. Hacker induced blackout in history but Ukrainian cyber security. People were very unnerved by this end, people in these actual utilities were traumatized I mean these attacks were truly like relentless sins very kind of scary for the actual operators at the controls I mean in the first blackout attack. These poor operators Ukrainian control room in western Ukraine they were locked out of their computers, and they had to watch their own mouse cursor. Click through circuit breakers, turning off the power in front of them I. Mean They watched it happen? At these kind of Phantom hands to control of their mouse movements, so they took this very very seriously, but yet Ukrainians as a whole I mean they have seen a lot. They are going through an actual physical war. They've seen the seizure of Crimea and the invasion of the east of the country. You know the the date hits. A Ukrainian general was assassinated with a car bomb in the middle of Kiev, so they have a lot of problems, and I'm not sure that cyber war is one of the top of their minds, but not patio I. Did, actually reach Ukrainians normal. Ukrainian civilians to it. It shook them as well. I talked to two regular Ukrainians. who found that they couldn't swipe into the Kiev Metro. They couldn't use their credit card at the grocery store. All the ATM's were down The Postal Service was taken out for every computer that the postal service had was taken out for more than a month. I mean these things really did affect people's lives, but it kind of. A until that kind of climactic worm. Not Patio for I think for this to really reach home for Ukrainians. who have kind of seen so much. How do you fight back? I, mean I one of things that struck me as I was reading. The book is so many of the people you talked to people who are identifying the threat. They're actually private companies. Eyesight was the first even detect it. they are contractors to intelligence agencies the military in some cases, but they're not necessarily the government right like it's not necessarily Microsoft. Who has to issue the patches from the software not necessarily GE which makes simplicity, which is the big industrial controls talk about a lot. How does all that come together into a defense because that seems like harder problem of coordination? Yeah, I mean defense in Cyber. Security is in an eternal problem. It's incredibly complicated, and when you have a really sophisticated determined adversary, it know they will win eventually ends I. think that they're absolutely lessons for defense in this book about you know. Maybe you need to really really think about software updates for instance like the kind that were hijacked to a with this medoc accounting software. As a vector for terrible cyber-attacks. Imagine that like. Any of your insecure apps that have kind of updates can be become a a piece of Malware, really unique to signature networks need to think about patching on. There are just an endless kind of checklist of things to every organization needs to do to protect themselves so. In some ways that just like a Sisyphean task and I don't. I don't try to answer that question in the book because it's too big, and it's kind of boring as well, but what I do really hammer on is the thing that the government's really could've done here. which is to try to establish norms tried to control attackers through diplomacy through kind of disciplinary action through things like kind of Geneva Convention for Cyber War if. If you think about a kind of analogy to say like chemical weapons, we could just try to give everyone in the world a gas mask that they have to carry around with them at all times, or we could create a Geneva. Convention norm that chemical weapons should not be used in if they are than crime, and you get pulled in front of the Hague. Hague and we've done the ladder and I think that in some ways should be part of the the answer to cyber war as well we need to establish norms and make countries like Russia or like organizations like the G. Are you understand that there will be consequences for these kinds of attacks, even when the victim is not the US or NATO or the? The EU and I think we're only just starting to think about that. One of the questions I had as reading is it seems like a very clear red line for almost everyone you talk to is attacks on the power grid right? That is just unacceptable. You should not do it if you do it. You've crossed a line and there should be some consequence. Is, that clear to governments. Is that something that our government says? It's something that the says it has been established. It seems like it's it's the conventional wisdom wants to salvage, but I'm not unclear whether that is actually the line that exists. It definitely has not been established, and when I kind of did these I managed to get sort of interviews with the top cyber security officials in the Obama ends trump administration Jay Michael Daniel was the cyber. Cyber Coordinator for the administration was the kind of cyber coordinator boss in the The Homeland Security Adviser for trump and both of them when I asked him about like wiped. Why didn't you know to put it bluntly like? Why didn't you respond? When Russia caused blackouts in Ukraine? Both of them essentially said well. You know that's not actually the rule that we want to set. We want to be able to cause blackouts in our adversaries networks. In their power grids when we are in a war situation or when we believe it's in our national interest, so you know that's the thing about these cyber war capabilities. This is part of the problem that every country. Absolutely the US among them isn't really interested in controlling these weapons, because we in this kind of Lord of the rings fashion, we are drawn to them to like we want to maintain the ability to use those weapons ourselves and nobody wants to throw this ring in the fires, of Mount Doom. We all wanted maintain the ring and imagine that we can use it for good in out. So that's why neither administration called that Russia for doing this because they want that power to. Make the comparison to to nuclear weapons but Negotiated drawdown and treaties with Russia in the past we count warheads where aware that the United States stockpiles can destroy the world. Fifty Times over today maybe tomorrow one hundred hundred like what we have a sense of the the measure of force that we can. Put on the world when it comes to nuclear weapons, there's a sense that Oh, we should never use these right like we have them as a deterrent, but we've gained out that actually leads to his mutually assured destruction like there's an entire body of academics. There's entire body of researchers. Entire body is got scenario planning with that kind of weapon. Does that same thing exist for for cyber weapons. There are absolutely. Know community is of academics. Policymakers who are thinking about this stuff now, but I don't think it's kind of gotten through to actual government decision. that. There needs to be kind of cyber deterrence in how that would work. In in the comparison to nuclear weapons is like instructive, but not exactly helpful. In fact, it's kind of counter-productive because we cannot deter cyber-attacks with other cyber-attacks i. don't think that's GonNa work in part because we haven't even tried to establish it yet. There are no kind of rules or read lines, but then I think more importantly. Everybody thinks that they can get away with cyberattacks that they can. They're going to create a false flag. That's clever enough that that when they blow up a power grid, they can blame their neighbor instead, so they think they're. They're gonNA. Get Away with it, and that causes them to do it anyway. A not fear the kind of assured destruction so I think that the the right response, the way to to deter cyber attacks is not with the promise of a cyber attack in return. It's with all the other kind of tools we have, and they've been used sometimes, but but they were not in the case of Sand Werman. Those tools include like sanctions which came far too late in the story indictments of hackers. In some cases, we still haven't really seen syndrome. Hackers indicted for the things that they did in Ukraine or or even not petty. And then ultimately just kind of messaging like calling out naming and shaming bad actors, and that has happened to some degree with Sandra, but in some cases there have still been massive failures there there has still been no public attribution of the Sandwich attack on the twenty eighteen Olympics I mean. My Book has been out for months. I think show pretty clear evidence that syndrome is responsible for this attack. The very least it was Russia and yet the US and Korean War, These Olympics took place at UK, none of these governments have named Russia as having done that. That attack which almost just invites them to do it again whenever our next Olympics are going to be, I guess maybe not this year, but if you don't send that message than you're just essentially inviting Russia to try again so I think might my big question is what happens now? I mean right we you write about. The NSA has tailored access operations, which is their elite hacking group. We are obviously interested in maintaining some of these capabilities. We've come to a place where people are writing books about how it works. What is the next step? What is the next? does it just keep getting worse or does this kind of diplomacy you're talking about? Is that beginning to happen I? Think there is some little glimmers of hope about the diplomacy beginning to happen I mean this year in February I think it was the State Department's called out a sand worm attack on Georgia, where a worms hackers basically took down a ton of Georgian websites by attacking the hosting providers as well as a couple of TV's broadcasters in the US. State Department with a few other governments not. said this was sand. Worm named the unit of the GRU. That's is that was confirmation that I've been looking for for a long time, but they also made a point of saying that we're calling this out is unacceptable, even though Georgia. Georgia is not part of NATO or the U. so that's that's progress. That's essentially creating a new kind of rule. That's state-sponsored. Hackers can't do certain things, no matter who the victims and that's really important. Also, it was kind of interesting because federal officials like gave me a heads up about that announcement before happened, which they have very very rarely do and I think they were trying. To say was in we. We read your book and we. Got The message okay like Stop attacking us about this like we're trying. We're doing something different here I. Don't want flatter myself that I actually changed their policy, but it did seem interesting that they wanted to tell me personally about this so i. I think that like maybe our stance on this kind of diplomacy is evolving, and we're learning lessons, but at the same time we also see the attacks evolving to. To and their new innovations in these kinds of disruption happening, we've seen since some of these terrible Sandra attacks. You know other very scary things like this piece of our called Triton or crisis that was used to disabled safety systems in a oil refinery in Saudi Arabia on that was you know that could have caused an actual physical explosion of petrochemical facility? The the attacks are evolving to okay final last real question. Tell people where they can get your book. You can find all kinds of places by on indie Greenberg Dot net. Written another book as well previously, yes. That's right. I wrote a book about wikileaks. Cypher punks and things like that. That's right well. I'm a huge fan. It was an honor to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on I know it's. It's a weird time to be talking about anything, but the coronavirus I was very happy to talk about something else, which is that it seems a little bit more in control Even if it is quite dangerous, a thank you for the time. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad to provide people with a different kind of apocalypse as a distraction.
Ukraine to investigate leaked tapes with ex-president, Biden
"The infamous story of Joe Biden's effort to force the firing of Ukraine's chief prosecutor in twenty sixteen is taking a new legal twists in Keever Kiev just as the former vice president is selling up his presidential nomination in America in Kiev last month District Court judge S. J. Volk ordered the country's law enforcement services to formally list the fire prosecutor Victor Shokan as a victim of an alleged crime by the former U. S. vice president Joe Biden according to an official English translation of the ruling obtained by just the news the court has previously ordered the prosecutor general's office and the state bureau of investigation in February to investigate Shulkin's claims that he was fired in spring twenty sixteen under pressure from Biden because he was investigating very small holdings the court ruled that there is no adequate evidence to investigate his claims that Biden pressured the then president Petro Poroshenko including a threat to withhold a billion dollars in loan guarantees but when the law enforcement agencies open the probe they refused to name Byton as the alleged perpetrator of the crime instead listing the potential defendants as an unnamed American vocal row ruled that anonymous listing was improper and ordered the law enforcement agencies to formally named Joe Biden as the excuse as the accused
Trump to nominate new U.S. ambassador to Ukraine
"News president trump has named a new ambassador to Ukraine it's Keith Dayton the senior U. S. defense advisor to Ukraine who served in the army for forty years the U. S. is relationship with Ukraine has been the focus of intense scrutiny after president trump's dealings with Kiev sparked impeachment proceedings in Congress the US has not had an ambassador there since Maria Evanovich was recalled from her post that was
An Interview with U.S. Representative Elise Stefanik
"We begin the program sitting right across from me here is at least defining the congressman from New York the twenty first district in the empire state she is serving her third term of course you know her from the house intelligence committee and the entire but Manza of impeachment outrage from all sides congressman what a pleasure to have you here in Iowa it is great to be back and they also know me because I was on the guy Benson show and had a great time yes that's many people are saying that's what your best known for your previous appearance on the show now twice so I we are honored let's get going by talking about impeachment and I'm thinking about these four days that were in the midst of right now yesterday was the Super Bowl arguably the biggest cultural event in American sort of shared there's the shared experience of America then today we have the Iowa caucuses tomorrow is the state of the union address from the president and then the next day there will be impeachment votes in the U. S. Senate which will happen during the show will be live as those votes unfold the Senate arguments just wrapped up a few moments ago so we're within five hours of the doors closing here in the caucuses in Iowa the closing arguments in the impeachment trial back in DC now over the U. S. Senate will now go into a period of debate where each senator will have an opportunity to speak for up to ten minutes that will carry through until Wednesday afternoon and we saw the president's advocates making their arguments we saw the house impeachment managers making the case to convict the president and remove him from office having had a front row seat to all of this looking at all of the intelligence having these battles in front of the cameras and behind closed doors sitting here now congressman if you had two minutes let's say on the Senate floor today to make your closing argument on this issue what would you say I would say this is about the constitution this is about the fabric of our Republic Adam Schiff when he took to the will of the U. S. Senate said this was not just about the twenty sixteen election but about the twenty twenty election and I believe that this was Democrats focus on undermining the president and really wanting to impeach him since the day after he was elected I think the president's team did a great job laying out the facts and the key facts for me as I looked at all of the depositions I was in the majority of them I read every single word of testimony that Adam Schiff conducted on the house side is the fact is you crane got legal security assistance nineteen days before the end of the fiscal year and it was more security systems than during the Obama administration and you know people may disagree with the president's policies I happen to agree with his policies but anything that was included on the transcript this does not rise the level of impeachable offenses and that's what this is really about this is about the constitution and it's about making sure the American electorate can make the decision at the polls this November as you said this week everything is jam packed we're getting the first votes cast at the caucus so this needs to be figured out by the American people rather than Adam Schiff who has a flimsy flimsy case for impeachment one of the big arguments that everyone had over the last week involved John Bolten the former national security adviser and his potential testimony evidently there's a book coming out where he's going to more or less it seems close the circle on at least an attempted quid pro quo from the president and the Democrats in the Senate said well we must hear from him this is crucial Republicans said no this is not our job in the Senate to hear from someone that the Democrats didn't even bother to subpoena on the house side before they tossed over the transom the impeachment articles to the U. S. Senate I was very sympathetic to the Republican argument saying it's not the Senate's job to clean up after the house and I agree that the house today shoddy rush job for political reasons but I also believe that Bolton and what he knows is valuable and pertinent so I guess my question is because you're in the house and not in the Senate setting aside the Republican argument in the Senate do you think that John Bolton should have been subpoenaed by Adam Schiff do you think his testimony before your committee would have been valuable had the Democrats bother to pursue it yes certainly I think that the more you hear from witnesses I think that's where you get the facts that was a decision made by Adam Schiff not to subpoena John Bolton and also to withdraw subpoenas of other individuals they did not let that play out in the courts and it's the house's job to do the investigation the Senate functions as a jury with the evidence presented so I do think the president argument was very important because it it it would set a precedent for future impeachment hearings and Adam Schiff did not go according to the Clinton and Nixon impeachment process the other thing I want to comment on guy is it was not surprising to me that there was a bomb shell New York times article at the moment when it was essentially publish we saw during the house depositions that every single day there were strategic leaks and media manipulation from the house Democrats we still don't know what is exactly in the manuscript and I get asked not by you but other reporters will the manuscript says this and I'll say to them no this is third hand reported in The New York Times so I think the senators made the right decision to move on get this behind them and again let the American people decide at the polls this November I saw senator Lamar Alexander on meet the press yesterday and will play some of his audio later in the show and he made the argument which is basically where I am which is this was not a perfect phone call the president did act inappropriately in his estimation in a number of ways but then you have to make the decision okay if there was presidential malfeasance abuse of office impropriety whatever word you want to use does that conduct rise to the level of first impeaching a president and second even more significantly removing him from office as we are now nine months away from a general election and he said no he said the damage to our polity to our politics would be far worse with a few purely partisan impeachment and removal process when the American people would have that choice before us taken away from us just by members of the Congress I wonder what you make of that part of the argument specifically with the election coming up and he said the impeachment articles of the Democrats pass in the house would have barred president trump from holding office again it would have taken all of this one hundred percent out of the hands of voters which I know a lot of Republicans suggest was sort of the point because they're nervous about twenty twenty on the other side well I think senator Alexander he's deeply respected and he takes his job very seriously as United States senator and I respect his decision again you know I think this should be determined by the American people but when it comes to the transcript of the call with Ukraine first of all we don't have a lot of transcripts to judge it against because it's so rare for transcript to be released I think that actually sets a very bad precedent for future conversations between heads of state I think the president made the right decision in releasing the transcripts and what I've said is look this president communicate to nontraditional ways he sounds like himself when you read the transcript but when it comes to this question of whether there was an investigation into the bite and there was no investigation into the bite and that's a key fact and to have concerns about potential corruption this president is required by law to ensure that our taxpayer dollars are going to corrupt entities in the national defense authorization act which I helped write and voted for sure and last point on this what I want to move on to a couple other topics I hear your coming from I agree that it is very important and relevant to note that ultimately the by wide investigation was not an ounce and the eight digit did in fact flow to Kiev but there's been a fair amount of reporting that would suggest the reason that the would be quid pro quo was not finalized didn't actually happen wasn't executed is because they kind of got caught the whistle blower start to percolate some senators were asking questions why is this eight not flowing then they pulled the plug so I'm not sure if that's ultimately in terms of outcomes it is a defense in terms of intent I'm not sure it's totally convincing what do you think of that well I think some of the testimony that was very important is this pause on foreign aid it was not just to Ukraine there other countries where there was a pause making sure that taxpayer dollars weren't going to Russia has a skeptical general absolutely he ran being a skeptic in twenty thirteen sixteen and I even have been critical of disagreed with some of the skepticism although as I hear from constituents in my district people want to make sure that their hard earned tax dollars are going to corrupt entities I think they're going to be significant consequences to how partisan this impeachment was it's been very divisive across the country I was in my district this past weekend and people are paying close attention they are not happy with how Adam Schiff a Nancy Pelosi pursued a partisan impeachment and have not been forthcoming with the American people she said you can't have a partisan impasse processor it's not legitimate and then that's exactly what we got and if they cared so much about hearing from the witnesses she withheld the articles for three weeks they could have pursued the process by subpoenaing John Bolton if they cared that much about the facts this was on an arbitrary time line and they just wanted to get this done before the holidays so congressman my guess is the least defining from New York you were thrust into the limelight with this impeachment process and I followed your career because we kind of know each other a little bit as a thoughtful young up and coming member and that's cool and then bang you're on this committee you are gaining a lot of attention people on the conservative side of things are rallying here because the left is really aiming to dislike you strongly and letting that be known on social media and elsewhere giving a lot of money to your opponent and I know there were certain people gleefully doing jigs because your opponent whose big spending tax and spend liberal Democrat was out there raising significant financial resources to try to defeat you then you release your numbers your quarter for a fundraising was like a genuinely a blockbuster just shocking talk about that the numbers and what what that says to you it says that my constituents in the American people support to my focus on the constitution and the truth and any amount of Hollywood money that flows into my district the American people are going to fight back and my district knows that I work on their behalf every single day it's important for the listeners to note that the money that was raised by my far left opponent was off of the hash tag trashy stuff phonic in I was smeared by people like Rosie o'donnell Chelsea handler George Conway and it was an interesting and sort of jarring personal experience to go through but I really appreciate my constituents completely understand what's happening they will all tell you that Hollywood money is not going to change this district and they know that I consciously focus on delivering results and I am an independent voice if you look at my voting record I always put my district first yes and occasionally we have disagreements about some of your votes because you will not always toe the party line that's right and that's the same with me but occasionally are telling of the party line they diverge from time to time and I think that's a healthy thing last question and it's sort of along similar lines involving your growing profile within the party long before your political celebrity bloomed vis a vis impeachment you had really come out and strongly made the case that the Republican Party has an issue with women voters and female candidates down it's dwindled down to a very small number of female Republicans in the house and you said about this one woman mission to to change that trajectory and
US senators clash over witnesses at Trump impeachment trial
"For just the third time in American history a US president is on trial in the Senate with president trump impeachment trial officially under way Linda Kenyon reports there's a lot at stake for the president's legacy and the twenty twenty election it began in the Senate chamber with the official presentation of the articles of impeachment with one of the chief house impeachment managers outlining the charges against president trump president trump solicited the interference of a foreign government Ukraine in the twenty twenty United States presidential election then representative Adam Schiff the chairman of the house intelligence committee described the second article of impeachment obstruction of Congress no president has ever ordered the complete defiance of an impeachment and Cory or sought to obstruct and impede so comprehensively the ability of the house of representatives to investigate high crimes and misdemeanors on the other side of the capitol building house speaker Nancy Pelosi was addressing the issue of whether the Republican controlled Senate must take into account recent new evidence and allow witness testimony in the trial they don't see documents they don't hear from my witnesses are they don't want they want a can or anything new that comes up what's come up includes a statement from the government accountability office that says the trump administration broke the law when it withheld US security aid to Ukraine last year that had been appropriated by Congress house minority leader Kevin McCarthy dismissed this new revelation saying the house had its chance they made their case for impeachment the Senate role now is the judge in the afternoon a harsh envelop the Senate chamber as Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts entered senators I attend the Senate in conformity with your notice for the purpose of joining with you for the trial of the president of the United States justice Roberts who will preside over the president's impeachment trial was administered the oath by the president pro tem of the Senate Iowa Republican Chuck Grassley Roberts interns Warren the members of the U. S. Senate they will act as the jury in the trial do you saw only swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of Donald John trump president of the United States now pending you will do impartial justice according to the constitution and laws so help you god the trial will begin with opening statements next Tuesday but there's still a lot of questions to be answered like the issue of whether there will be witness testimony Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer says he really doesn't know we expect that we will have votes on these witnesses on Tuesday be can't be sure to we see the resolution that McConnell has put together he refers to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell would first said he did not want any witness testimony in the trial but later said the issue would be put to a vote during the trial as Senate Republicans took the lead on impeachment house Democrats were pushing them to hear new evidence particularly from somebody associated with president trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani Alex Marquardt reports the indicted associate Abadi Giuliani turning on his old boss and the man they were working train president trump idolize them I mean I thought he was the savior left harness says everyone knew what was going on in Ukraine including trump during a media blitz that helps show prosecutors you're willing to cooperate harness for how significant the pressure was in the quid pro quo with Ukraine investigate the bidens or else if they didn't make the announcement basically there would be no relationship the Ukrainian born partner says he told officials in Kiev there would be no military aid or a White House meeting for the new president and less they announced the Biden investigation the only thing will we cared about and then we were poor we were the team was to get the Lynskey or a Porsche and go for somebody to make on the press release of announcement into the by investigation also in the balance partner said with the attendance of vice president Mike pence a Dylan skis on Aug aeration announcement no pets burns with me at the number rations there would be no visit to the White House there would be basically they would have no communication pence's office responded that part S. will say anything to stay out of prison trump has denied knowing part S. despite numerous photos showing the two together every time he says us from another after his line is lying the administration is also
Pompeo breaks silence on alleged threats to envoy in Ukraine
"The increased demands by Democrats follow wonder Rudy guiliani's indicted associates left partners telling house investigators the former US ambassador to Ukraine to re your bottom edge was under some kind of surveillance when she was still in Kiev secretary state Mike Pompeii tells W. I. B. C. radio in Indianapolis and I met this guy left part as to the best of my knowledge I've never encountered never communicated with them he adds that the state department will investigate the allegations I suspect that much of what's been reported will ultimately prove wrong documents provided by partis also suggests there may have been a threat to your Bonaventure shortly before she was abruptly recalled last spring to McGuire Washington
"kiev" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"I was spending about something else I think in the are in the interview and in Kiev okay and you further testified so when I said the president gave me an assignment it wasn't really the president was a secretary to the president and and that that's where I received my direction correct correct okay did ambassador Taylor ever bring any concerns to your attention about the so called the channel you doubt that a regular no in fact the opposite when he came to post I think I know I called him or he called me I think he spoke with that secretary Perry and an ambassador of all Chris separately and in the course of the first few weeks he was highly appreciative that a new ambassador coming to post like like himself was getting the kind of support he was getting from all three of us having a cabinet member a special envoy and at a fellow ambassador all hoping to raise the profile of Ukraine he was highly appreciative and highly complimentary and you maintain an open open line with him correct correct I think there are number of tax some of which I have and some of which I don't where he is reaching out constantly to me and to the others for advice and help okay we had already tried to Callum up there's a two hundred and fifteen or something text messages between you Walker and ambassador Taylor you know during the the early August time frame does that does that make sense to you yeah I think he's I think Taylor started in late June or early July was when he first took post and I think we began communicating fairly shortly there after okay and he never did any concerns to you during this time frame at eight thirty he had issues with what was going on what do you mean by what was going on this record request for some sort of investigation not in the early stages he you know as his it has as time went on his email speak again to be a little more pointed and frantic and that's when we had very little the little visibility as to what was going on either I think it had to do more with the aid and as to why the aid was suspended right and ultimately you for a period on that issue by having the September ninth communication with the president correct that's correct and when you share that feedback with ambassador Taylor was was he satisfied that this issue is now behind them I don't really know because he responded when I said you know get a hold of the secretary he said I agree and I never knew knew whether he reached out to the secretary or not I was sort of the end of that at one point in your taxes and let's get on the phone right and you said you're a an individual that doesn't like to walk through these issues on tax when you can talk about on the cell phone correct I say that to everybody when something becomes more substantive than just a few lines of text I say let's talk okay and did you talk with ambassador Taylor I don't recall I mean I don't recall whether we spoke right after that with the recall the secretary I I basically Mr caster wanted to get the notion across that I'm gonna surprise I can go with this you need to pick up the but you're the ambassador you need to pick up the ball and run with it at this point okay just getting back to the regular channel that anyone else expressed any concerns you about this the so called a regular channel I'm not sure how someone to characterize something as in a regular channel when you're talking to the president the United States the secretary of state the national security adviser the chief of staff of the White House the secretary of energy I don't know how that's a regular if a bunch of folks that are not in that channel are aggrieved for some reason for not being included I don't know how they can consider us to be the a regular channel and data be the regular channel when it's the leadership that makes the decisions.
"kiev" Discussed on Endless Thread
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"kiev" Discussed on Endless Thread
"What do we know about what she looked like absolutely nothing we don't know anything she was of a Viking background so she was probably of from various Kenyan Avian Look but we don't know for sure whatever she looked like August story really pushes back against sumptious that people make about the time be because she debunks cliche of female rulers being nicer softer than male rulers she he's a woman in our world man so she had recently to be even more bloodthirsty than men here's what happens before she ruled in her own right Olga had been married to this Guy Eager Egos the ruler in this region of Reuss and in this environment of pillaging war bands an intense cultural melting pot rulers are essentially mafia bosses. You want protection you gotTa Pay I pay tribute which is Kinda like taxes before anyone beyond the big boss could have influence on how those taxes were used and eager Olga's husband and actually goes out with his warriors and collects those taxes in one day he starts getting some gusts from his soldiers his war banned these loyal group of older who surround any kind of powerful figure say to him we're not getting enough money you know so-and-so's war band they've got silver boone's they are really really getting paid and so we need more money and so eager makes the decision fateful it turns out to go collect a second butte from one of their subject groups group known as the Lions and so he takes them they go to collect a second tribute in the driveway and say we've already paid and so they fight back and that's how eager dies this shakeup leaves Olga in a tough spot she has a son but he's just a kid and he's not old enough to Poland so Olga has to rule in his stead and yet the reverence feel uniquely empowered by killing eager and so their king whose name is all and it has the connotations that you would expect with mall like bad like bad so he proposes marriage to Olga which then sets up the story of Olgun her revenge her reaction by the way is a little bit understandable like emory would you marry the head of a tribe who just killed your husband now definitely any more likely that I would go on a rampage which is exactly what al-gedid and this is how we get Olga's four at the tails of revenge against the tribe the directions whose existence lasts from the sixth century to write about the time they cross Olga by killing her husband Olga thinking furiously I have to imagine is despondent but then deals with the situation knows that she is going to take us aboard in that position if that ever happens says well my people really won't go for that I'm not opposed but my people really won't go for that and so you need to demonstrate to them how wealthy you are right and how powerful so what you should do is you should go back to your boat and you should prepare yourself with wealth you should dress in fancy clothes and tomorrow I will send emissaries to you and when I do you will demand to be carried not on horseback not in a carriage but your boat cherry to me to demonstrate your wealth and they agree while the derive liens are preparing to show their superiority by demanding to be carried in a boat old tells her people to dig a massive hole in the middle of the courtyard of the cities for the next day the directly in sale back down the river they pull up to the docks of Olga's city and they say we won't go up the hill to the fort unless you carry us in our boat Oguz people say okay so they pick up the boat with the people in trudge up the hill to the castle and when they get after the castle they dump it into the whole that Olga had doug and he stands over them while they're in the hole and says this is what I think of your proposal and then she has them buried alive for those following along and home this is Olga's use of the earth and water elements in her death metal record worthy revenge story to Another set of messengers arrived saying our king would like to marry you and there's no mention here of like owned by the way where the other messengers and she says you're dirty from the road and you've traveled all this way and you come right into my throne room and you see me like this now go clean yourself off I'll have a bath prepared for you is Eastern European kind of sauna steam bath boarded up and she burns the sawn down around them killing them checkoff elemental revenge involving fire and maybe water once again just a good measure the next story involves Olga supposedly finally agreeing to the Revolution King Malls proposal all right so story three she has to finally go along and so she gathers up her ladies in waiting she gathers up the men of Kiev and they marched to the REVEILLE and lands and outside of the city she says we have to have a proper wedding feast in commemoration of my dead husband because this is where he was killed and so we should have a feast to honor his memory before we go forward with this wedding and so the drivelines agree and they supply mead and they supply ale and they drink can you tell us more about Oh what a feast might look like in the tenth century we'll have bore probably on the menu we might have fish on the menu at this time as well as Red Eye bread as ubiquitous it's like a surfin turf almost it would be a little bit like a surfin terrified concede vengeful Olga and her ladies in waiting a feast where people might get a little tipsy you can probably see where this is going she has her servants go around continue really refilling whatever people are drinking from until the derive liens are passed out drunk at which time she and her ladies in waiting wander among them slitting all of their throats chronicle tells us she does it herself to I mean this is like her getting her hands dirty chalk this up to elemental revenge surfin turf it seems Olga went off her ellen revenge script here also like shouldn't be a little faster on the pickup that the last story and really the end of Olga's revenge as well as the end of the day liens is maybe the most brutal of all her last form of elemental revenge air in we'll tell you that pulling tail in a minute.
"kiev" Discussed on Endless Thread
"I'm Ben Brock Johnson I'm Amer Jason and you're listening to endless thread the show featuring stories found in the vast ecosystem of online communities called read it during the month of October we are bringing mm use some chilling stories so really right now here by popular demand of many red editors who wrote us with the suggestion we are calling the show and this thread and we're coming to you from W R Boston's NPR station today's episode Olga of Kiev Julian had been looking for something to sing about on the new gorod album any it found a series of stories that perfect Lee matched his bands death metal genre and his yearning for an attractive tale this queen from the tenth century Olga of Kiev had carved a path of destruction that was truly the stuff of legend while she was still a young queen her husband a new ruler in the region that is now Ukraine was murdered by a neighboring tribe Olga vowed to meet this act of murder in kind but like tenfold and the way she went about it was kind of poetic she was using the four elements that's the thing in order to kill enemies she was using fire air birth and water in a way this is what I found that this is my discovery I think Olga of Kiev is not very well known especially in the United States but she does get posted about a lot on read it to Julian. She was an Unsung hero until he sang her story to death metal music but there are people who have built their whole careers exploring stories like Olga's still these people were a little shocked to hear from US I was really surprised errative literature at Boston University I am basically I'm divorced I have done research on pre Mongol reuss and rose as you probably always is territory that were today we see western Russia Ukraine Belarus even western Poland Westboro fit Enezi's translating some of the early texts in Slavic languages into Spanish because she wants more historical story cross pollination another person we reached out to to help us understand Olga is someone who has been nursing out about medieval history for a very long time I was a little kid who played with a knights and castles read adventure books and things like that actually just took my kids to the Renaissance Fair here on Sunday so we'll be good friends Christian.
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"No one cares about the lyrics because you just hear a singer that is growling or grunting or something in talking about death and horror I wanted to change it a bit talk so Julian wanted to make his lyrics more attractive but not like to attractive does the challenge of the music because this is a very extreme brutal music and that's not easy always to find texts that can fits with back when Julian had just joined the band also working on his master's thesis on imagery of murderous women in check art and one day he was taking a break in the library from thesis sing and sending to ban demos and he wandered from the Czech literature section into the Russian literature section and found a translation of something called the price hi Mary Chronicle and in this book which covers early Russian Medieval History Julian found amuse a woman a queen a warrior princess whose legend came surging out of the primordial mist of a chaotic time in Ukrainian and Russian history when history was barely written down at all this Queens story is really more like a tangle of rumors from witnesses who glimpsed and fled from some title epic Massacres Her name was Olga of Kiev and her reaction defied gender norms societal norms most norms her reaction was total carnage.
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"kiev" Discussed on Ridiculous History
"To the show ridiculous ridiculous historians friends and neighbors. Thank you as always for joining us. <hes> we always like to say nice things about our super producer casey peg room and we do mean these sincerely but we have a special announcement today one that <hes> blew my mind actually another another thing to add to the long legend of casey's shadow here. This guy came in to record today's today's episode on his actual birthday. It's true. I'm here and it is my birthday. What a guy. My name is no. Are you still ben van right. I am mm several times over ben boland. Yes and this is the first time that we have that. The three of us have been in the studio together in a little little wild shouts out to christopher haciendas for pinch hitting their. I check out that episode. That was pretty cool man. Thanks man. I enjoyed it christopher's a real mench for for pinch hitting while you're off on adventures and i alluded a little bit to your adventures ben wanna spill the teeth as it were as the kids would say ed wha- what were you doing then <hes> i was doing all sorts of non sketchy things i traveled to traveled to japan to a couple of different towns in japan was nagoya. One was tokyo and i was able to make it back. I have a couple of cool stories about it but they ebi. Maybe stories for another day or if we want to knock off early <hes> this afternoon maybe we can grab a beer and regale each other because i gotta tell you man. I'm coming in hot. My body doesn't know what time it is. Everybody has a vague spider sense about what day it is so luckily this is is our favorite history show so we don't have to talk about today and i don't think we have to talk about specific times on the clock <hes> but we do have to talk about bad asses. We absolutely do <hes> ben. How do you like your saints. I like my murderous. I like my seats. The way i like my superheroes superheroes <hes> so saints often at least in catholicism or patrons of one thing or another <hes> so i like very specific. <hes> patronage is for saints and i also like i'm gonna tell you i like some a song of ice and fire some game of thrones ye <hes> historical gore when it comes to saint swimming to drop a couple of superlatives here and i want you folks out in podcast land to use your imagination picture. What kind of individual might be attached to these the missionary to ukraine ukraine okay that doesn't sound so exciting how about the viking saint queen of russia or my personal favorite the scourge of the dreaded liam's <hes> also known as equal to the apostles. These are all titles held by princess olga of kiev now saint olga of kiev of an i love that i love that string of honorifics too. That's very nearest target area and it's very <hes> for the nerds and the ground. It's very vigo of carpathia. It's very zena princess warrior princess <hes> xena warrior princess so just to be clear that's vigo v carpathian name as vehicle donahue wife to hand mouth off through me yeah exactly oh you know what a bears up on a rewatch so saint olga unlike vigo is a real person and she was born in a city in what is today northwestern western russia close to the estonian border. The city's name is gonna be a great fodder for all of us on ridiculous historians. Yes it is spelled p._s. K. o. v. so what do you think piscopo visco yeah. I don't know we're probably gonna have a lot of fun with a lot of these <music> there any <hes> people with estonian heritage out there. Please feel free to write in and and shred us new ones for a pronuncia and we will do our level best. We think should we go with pskov silent p. I like the golf. It's for that for only for the reason that it's it's more fun in my mouth. Visco girls are been and visco girls. Girls say <hes> sort of a mean thing. My ten year old told me about it. They are sort of basic you know quote unquote so they have a particular garb and it's scrunches scrunches around their wrists <hes> short shorts clean white van slip on <hes> some sort of long baggy t. shirt and they always have a water bottle with bright colored stickers tickers on that has the brand hydro flask and they laugh like this excuse. I think you told me about this at some point so scoff kind of sounds the way visco girls laugh is what i'm getting at there we go nearly oh and their and their name is probably based on the storied history of this of this area. It's it's going to be based on that plug in right. It's an app. That's a photo editing app for instagram casey on the case. Let's let's go back to those names. Vikings saints queen a missionary to ukraine equal to the apostles dragons mother of dragons breaker of chains scourge of the drivelines. The thing about princess olga is that she he earned all of these titles and today story is about how she got there about how she went from being a the princess and being apprentice is a problematic beautiful thing you know a lot of people love the stories of royalty but unfortunately many many <hes> princes senses and princesses end up being historical footnotes. Why is olga different greg because you think of a princess you think of a fair maiden. Helpless and defenceless is being kept somewhere in a tower you know relegated to haroon behind lock and key <hes>. This was not the case for olga in nine twelve. She married a man by the name of igor gore gore what your very so. You know that for a fact because you've got russian pows and eager was the heir to the throne of kiev benching kills a little bit about the geography of kiev. Luckily i can <hes> kiev now a city in ukraine part of something we call all the keven rules are u. S. apostrophe <hes> keven rules was a federation of finish in east slavic people in europe from let's say around the ninth century to somewhere in the thirteenth century but this this name was a retro i trim it was not called kevin roose at the time. This is a name that we we sort of made up later as a species and when we say a loose federation <hes> we have to be very mindful to realize that this this is a somewhat common common thing historically and a lot of places just the problem of communication makes it difficult for a large uniform <hes> locked down empire to exist and and wouldn't have been sort of almost something bordering on tribal kind of like you had chieftains rather than elected officials sure yeah yeah so we we see the traces of reuss in the modern day because nations like ukraine russia and belarus all sort of mm claim keven reuss as their their cultural d._n._a. You know obviously belarus russia have the name reuss in their own wound countries name the name kevin roose comes to us around somewhere in the eighteen hundreds nineteenth century or so <hes> but as the same meaning as the land hand of the reuss which is how it was called in the middle ages and during olga's time the first stories about the roose bruce from the time that people historically arrive in this region is told in the primary chronicle which is also known as the tale of bygone years the russian primary chronicle and this is where we get a lot of the information about princess olga and her hubs eager himself. That's right e- gore was a viking descendant identities father. A man by the name of rick was a chieftain <hes> like we said this was a very kind of tribal society. <hes> and his people were called the var anglians. I don't know about that. Pronunciation reminds me of the farang from star trek a little bit <hes> or the vox. There were also called a. v. a r. y. A. g. s. vary eggs varyag there we go and so he actually made the seat of his empire. His you know power stronghold hold <hes> at somewhere called novgorod which was on the volkhov river at eight hundred seventy nine were passed away. He gave all of this land he held to his pal oleg because ebor was just a little too young to rule and so he was basically <hes> you could call this sort of like an early form of a trust. He was holding moving onto this land on the title until he gorby came of age right. Sue rick essentially said <hes>. I love my kid ebor. He stand they end up af but he is just too much of a whippersnapper right now. So all again ebor move the capital of lose to kiev and they found the kingdom of the keven reuss this would y- you know this is the origin point of russia ukraine belarus and so on and added largest. It's imagine it stretching from the baltic sea to the black sea so from sea to shining sea eagle or grows up he manages not to die and in nine thirteen he takes the throne again. This comes to us from the primary chronicle as you had said earlier goal. This is a very tribal sucio political time right so they're you're always playing king of the hill and you're always trying to fight the next guy or a group coming up so as soon as e gor gets the throne in nine thirteen he has to put down a rebellion because one of their client states their client communities. The drive leon's decided you know what win rick was in play. We understood the game but eager your your new new your brand new to this. We don't have to respect you. We don't have to pay you attacks or attribute. <hes> eager forced to the point says okay. I'll call your bluff and and he fights them and subdue them. This leads to arraign of peace until nine forty five at which point the same tribe rebels again that's right so eager had to take care of this <hes> second dr leeann rebellion and in order to do that. He actually had to leave kiev. He ev and go to where the fighting was. <hes> he succeeded in quashing this rebellion once again <hes> and he said he said look you know you guys are really testing me so i'm going to have to have some real consequences aside from like you know massacring people <hes> which would be higher tributes. This can leak acquainted to make them pay more taxes. I guess right <hes> and he said he pulled a d._j. College because he was on his way home nobody stopped and he said another one he sent his the majority of his forces back to home base with the tribute and then he came came back to the drug lands with a smaller force and this really weirded out the rebellious tribe. It's a little weird yeah so they they i said okay. Let's not let them physically get all the way to our town. Let's send out some emissaries and say do what is going on with you and then ebor says says i refuse to comment so they panic and they they sent out a force they send out an army. These do egos forces and they capture them. They take him to a place just outside their city and they tied to birch trees to his legs spent they. They're like bent down to the ground because those are very flexible ebel trees <hes> and they not sure you've gotta how they would do. Maybe tying a rope to the top and pulling it down to the tippy top churches the ground and probably time it to the trunk contrite to make a you down and then they let them loose each one of them and you can probably figure out what happened there a very unpleasant form of the splits the split all the way down you know from stem to stern <hes> dude was essentially torn in twain byzantine chronicler named leo video the deacon <hes> upon whom a lot of the russian primary chronicle is based..
"kiev" Discussed on Stuff You Missed in History Class
"If you have ever read the book the Princess bride. It's basically an entire book of the things that are cut out of it. I was gonna say it sounded like some of the writing of Gustave Flaubert. Constantine, doesn't specifically mention Oguz baptism in the book of ceremonies though, which he wouldn't have if it took place somewhere other than it court. He also calls her by the name Helga, which is the Scandinavian version of Olga. But there are plenty of other references to this baptism in the historical record, including Slavic Byzantine and Latin accounts, but they'll contradict each other in terms of exactly when and where the baptism happened some accounts place that conversion is happening in nine fifty four or nine fifty five. But if you line up the dates with the days of the week that appear in constant teams writing it was really nine fifty seven some accounts that suggest an earlier date also suggests that it was a local priest named Gregory and not the patriarch of Constantinople who actually performed the baptism on top of these differing accounts. There are also modern scholars who have tried to piece together a timeline based on other bits of. Information like whether Constantine's wife Helen would have been August godmother since her husband was August godfather. And if she was whether that was why Olga was given the baptism will name of Helen in. It's the answer to both of those questions is yes, if that's evidence for an earlier baptism because empress Helen was in very poor health for several years before she died in nine sixty to some of this analysis suggests that Oguz baptism wasn't connected to her trip at Khan to Constantinople at all that she had been baptized in Kiev years before going there. Some of these accounts speculate that the primary chronicle suggestion that Olga headed off an unwanted marriage proposal by getting the emperor to be her. Godfather is just a fanciful edition made by the chronicler and that no such marriage proposal really happened. There is no exaggeration a ton of scholarship on this question of when and where Olga was baptized, Tracy looked. At four different papers exclusively on that subject. One of which references that there had been eleven major studies connected to it. And that particular paper was written thirty years ago. So there are surely even more by now there's been just so much so much research into exactly when and where was Olga baptized. So basically, we have enough evidence to know that Olga was a real person that she really was married to eager and she governed the Reuss of kids as her son's regent that she traveled to Constantinople at least once and that she converted to Christianity. Some of the other details are a little fuzzier. And some aren't there are some arguments that olga's revenge, or at least some elements of it might be apocryphal. Even though they are kind of fun to read about especially if you're a fan of things like game of thrones. It is a very game game of thrones life. She. Yes, Olga was canonized in the Roman Catholic and eastern orthodox churches. And her feast day is celebrated on July eleventh or twenty-fourth depending on where you are as Olga of Kiev. Oh, Olga foul seem fun. It is always fun when the primary document that we have on somebody is is like a thing that you can find read for yourself on the internet. That's easily accessible rather rather than having to rely exclusively on papers referring back to thing that's buried in an archive somewhere, I'm not knocking archives. All they do valuable and important work, helping people we'd through all of this information. But I always like it when when the primary sources of things that I can go and read all the way through for myself before getting into the article or before getting into the podcast. Yeah. Do you have a little bit of listener rail? Do I have something from Caitlin? Caitlin says Hello Holly, Tracy. I'm listening to your latest episode on Mary.
"kiev" Discussed on Stuff You Missed in History Class
"You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer pity, the INA most nesting Dollond her lot in life. If you read a bunch of articles about Olga of Kiev from different sources today, you can find dramatically different takes on her depending on he was writing some of them focus only on her revenge against the drivelines while others focus only on her conversion to Christianity describing her as equal to the apostles and completely leaving out all of that earlier revenge. Ark some focus both on the revenge and the conversion crediting the conversion to Christianity with transforming Olga from a bloodthirsty pagan into a peaceful Christian. And there are also a few that try to build the case that this revenge was just a total fabrication that has nothing to do with Olga as a Christian figure at all. It's true that there is not a lot of documentation of their revenge campaign outside of the primary chronicle the Russian primary chronicle is typically attributed to the monk Nestor, although it was probably the compilation of work by multiple people. It's usually cited as having been completed in eleven thirteen so about one hundred and fifty years or more after all of these events happened. The oldest surviving copy of it is from about thirteen hundred and it's considered to be the most important source of information about the early history of the eastern slobs. Olga Mike, I said earlier is the only woman ruler described in the primary chronicle. She's also the only ruler presented is having this degree of cunning. But that disparity isn't necessarily evidence that this revenge story is a fabrication. Most of the male leaders who are described in the primary chronicle are mentioned in terms of their military skill sort of their value and aptitude is a as leader is tied into their military. Campaigns Olga didn't directly participate in military campaigns the way the Reuss prince's did. So this difference in tone might just be because olga's leadership took a very different form. Than the men's leadership did. But even though there isn't a lot of corroboration of the revenge story itself. There is information to suggest that something like it could have happened. Although perhaps not on such a massive and prolonged scale there are plenty of other revenge stories from medieval Europe and Asia, both in factual chronicles and in stories and legends. So this went didn't just come out of nowhere. Also, the primary deity among pagans at the time was Paran God of thunder and lightning and he's associated with order, and right and purification. So some historians argue that olga's medieval pagan background is right in line with this revenge story and an attempt to put things right to purify the region of drivelines, the Russa's relationship with the Greeks on the other hand is much more documented eager and Allegra treaties with the Greeks are both recorded from the Byzantine empire's perspective olga's, visit to Constantinople also appears. Constantine's book of ceremonies, which is an extremely detailed book of all the ceremonial protocol. Ick court when I say extremely detailed. I'm talking eleven page long descriptions of all the decorations at an event, and who was there and what they were wearing and where they were all positioned in the room..
"kiev" Discussed on Stuff You Missed in History Class
"He did conquer one of those neighboring tribes, the drive liens, and he imposed a much higher tribute on them than his predecessor had demanded. But he also waged war on the Greeks in an unsuccessful campaign that led to most of his fleet being destroyed by what was described as Greek fire eager responded to this. Feet by raising an army rebuilding some of his ships AMT trying again, which led to a new treaty with the Byzantine empire negotiated in nine forty four. But this treaty's terms weren't as favorable to the Reuss as a legs earlier treaty had been. So this was an overall loss the treaty did though illustrate how Christianity had started to become established in Kevin Roose Christians were still in the minority. But they were a large enough minority to be specifically addressed in this treaty. Their inclusion also suggests that eager was at least tolerance of them per the treaty. The baptize Reuss or the Christians acknowledged the treaty by taking an oath in a cathedral while the unbaptise, Bruce or the pagans swore on their swords eager was pigging. So he swore on his sword. Kevin Roose also had a significant Jewish population which wasn't referenced in the signing of the treaty. And there may have been at least some people of other religions as well a year later when. Igor was out collecting tribute. He demanded even more from the drivelines than he had previously which was already more than a leg had required. And when they resisted he attacked them once he had defeated them and collected their tribute he sent most of his retinue on a head. But he turned back with a few of his men apparently to try to collect still more tribute at that point the deadly ins killed him along with his escort. Then the drivelines tried to press their advantage. They sent an on void to Olga in Kiev to inform her of eagles death, and to seek her hand in marriage for their own prints who the primary chronicle names as Mao. It wasn't all that uncommon for a rulers widow to marry the man who had defeated him. But the deadliest goal wasn't so much to cement some kind of alliance between Olga, and now it was to take custody of eager and Oguz son of yachts love, it was just a toddler and. Groom him to rule in a way that would be the most favorable to them and just to acknowledge that this chronology is a little odd. Olgun eager were married in ninety three but Soviet Slavs birth is recorded as nine forty two and the primary chronicle doesn't record any other children from their marriage. This would mean that they had been married for about thirty nine years before Soviets. La was born and the Olga was in her fifties the youngest and that eager was about sixty five. So that's not impossible. But it does seem kind of improbable. The odds are a little long, right? There are cases on record of people having children at those ages. Yes. And having surprised babies later in their life, but still you have to do the diagram calendar. Math gets awkward the farther and farther back you go in history. Yes. So regardless of that sort of interesting chronology olga's response to her. Spends assassination. According to this account was dramatic, and we will get to it after a sponsor.
"kiev" Discussed on Stuff You Missed in History Class
"If ships from one had to go into the territory of the other because of bad, weather, and how prisoners and slaves were to be treated a leg died in nine twelve. And while his death itself is strictly related to. As episode. It's a count in the primary chronicle is just too good to leave it out. Because I like it, according to the primary chronicle a prophecy had foretold that a legs favorite horse would be the cause of his death hoping to keep that from happening a leg ordered the horse to be sent out to pasture and to be taken care of very well, but never brought into his presence again some years passed, and he started to wonder whatever had happened to that horse when he asked he was told that it had died, so he asked to be taken to see its bones. And once he was there, he laughed at the idea that this horse was supposed to have caused his death and he stepped on its skull. But the problem was there was a steak hiding in there and the snake bit him. And he died will. Yeah. I don't want to vilify snakes that they know. He was just in his snake apartment. He was gonna expect on. Yeah. After a legs death. Olga's husband eager assumed the throne, and it's possible that eager may have also been related to rubric. But it is not completely clear. Eager was born around eight seventy seven and Olga was born in an estimated eight ninety Oga may have been the daughter of a prince, but some sources specifically note that she was of common birth the primary chronicle places her birth at the city of scoff in what's now Russia eager in Olga, married in ninety three. So they had been married for about nine years when a leg died an eager assumed the throne ego or did not have a reputation for being particularly wise or skilled leader..
"kiev" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"Go there and that made her a target just a few weeks after her visit to kiev in that incredibly tense moment audio from her private phone calls got hacked and stolen now it's not unusual for us diplomat taffer phone tap to overseas right that presumably happens all the time what was not a thing though what was a high level us diplomat having her phone tapped and then the content of that phone call getting extracted and leaked out of context onto the internet to try to create an international incident and specifically to try to embarrass her now at the time that happened that was new and it was real mystery as to who had done it the obama administration noted at the time that the first tweet of that audio clip of victorian nulan swearing in a private phone call that was tweeted out by the russian government turned out that was our first big preview of what would go on a couple of years later in the two thousand sixteen elections right in two thousand sixteen elections it was russia again but what happened to victorian ousland was sort of the first iteration right not just spying not just hacking into systems and stealing information from us government officials right it was hacking instilling that information and then repurposing that information and weaponising it and putting it back out through social media what happened to the democratic party and the clinton campaign with their computer servers in two thousand sixteen happened to victoria nolan on her phone in two thousand fourteen in the middle of her work in ukraine when she in the us government we're trying to push putin back trying to shore up western alliances russia of course still is on the other side of all that right still working as best they can to break up all western alliances confrontation over that was fraught back then right one victoria new stepped into the middle of that square it's brought in a whole different way right now but this former diplomat this former top diplomat in europe for the united states former us ambassador to nato victoria newland joins us here next live and in person for the interview stay with us the good news is the president didn't unilaterally announced today that the united states is leaving nato the bat news is that that's actually news because there was a realistic possibility that he might have tried to do that today nato is a sixty nine year old alliance that was founded in one thousand nine forty nine all the planet was still reeling from world war two soviet union of course lost millions of people in world war two but they also emerged from the war aggressive and expansionist with a goal to spread or imposed soviet style communism anywhere they could all over the world and so nato an alliance of countries that agreed to stick together behind one key pledge anyone attacks any one of us the may attack all of us that's the basic idea of nato all members of nato are obliged to respond if any one member of nato is attacked that's the idea that mutual defense pledge among nato countries has only been invoked once in the sixty nine year history of the alliance once after nine eleven when we invoked after that attack and our nato allies came to our nato was initially set up in nineteen forty nine as a dozen nations including us over the years that has expanded to now include twenty nine countries and whether it's because it's expanded to twenty nine countries or whether it's just because the things still exists nato you should also know is the bane of russia's existence and if you want to dig right down into the spinal column of russia seeing itself in opposition to the west and in opposition to what we used to call the free world it's nato if you gave a lot of mir putin a magic wand and one wish he would wish for the dissolution of nato or that he was told her one of the two so today president trump did not blow up the nato alliance congratulations he did use the no meeting as an occasion to publicly insult and lie about these countries are fellow nato members who until about a year and a half ago used to be our closest allies in the world then having arrived late he proceeded to walk out early so he could reassert to the press positive feelings about vladimir putin has excitement about their forthcoming summit in a few days so here's my question actually i have a bunch of questions but here's here's here's.
"kiev" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Monocle Daily
"Kiev joins me on the line now welcome back to monocle twenty four in and explain to us what the march was like sure so this is the march of quality and based on police estimates they're actually saying three thousand five hundred people were there organizers saying up to five thousand this you know is interesting because the first year after the war started in ukraine it wasn't possible the mayor of kiev vitelic leach coz said you know it's not time for carnival and wouldn't ensure the security and provide please so it didn't go forward the year after that it did happen but it was very violence and for the past few years now it's been successful it takes a huge amount of manpower yesterday there were five thousand different law enforcement officers working and that's to keep far right activists way from the protests to allow it to happen peacefully now having been there number of times it was impressive is that the mood was much more relaxed there are a lot of young people people in high school or university a lot more just kind of easy going smiles funny posters and even you know straight people going dates bringing their girlfriend or boyfriend there to kind of show their support so that was interesting for a country that's really struggled with this issue as you mentioned it's short the march doesn't last that long and what's different because of the police and the security areas there aren't really any one watching there aren't people on the streets so it's something that exists much more from the marchers and for people who see photo and video and watch it on social media later now there is an interesting moment their number of old women looking down at the at the march and they were waving and getting a big reaction from the crowd i don't know if they know what the march was about but that got people very excited and would really impress people in what's very important for the organizers are getting people away now when they have had the first pride after my don it had been difficult because number four tact when they were leaving so when they end the march they have different buses and especially metro cars that come in that are emptied that take people number.
"kiev" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1
"Donnie love donnie love thank you for joining me the ham and cheese brenda says kiev is the best she has a recommendation for all of us the ox yoke in and maple plain has the best restaurant i am assuming you know like someplace where you can go buy meats and stuff amy says kiev because butter comrade comrade chicken do we know why it's called chicken kia did you do any research you do stuff like that you like you like to know did you did you check out why it's called chicken kiev could have been some guy in hoboken new jersey that just decided to call it chicken kia haagendazs has nothing to do with overseas made in new jersey exactly that's true i know and does was imported it's a fancy eighties ice cream made by a guy in new jersey.
"kiev" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM
"You doing a great job in kiev okay why everybody hating awa i yeah they have delayed a car ceos all right i know he just give people a little bit of window okay now everyone does something to meet you snap your fingers and tell them to do it not in my experience last night on sixty minutes sixty minutes telvisions longest running program they actually they did a focus feature online portland asking the question is portland still a cute little precious weird town it as you know the unofficial slogan of portland is keep portland weird and it's been made famous i mean that the city really has garnered a lot of attention because of the show that i think is now in its eighth season on if zaf sithe and it if my evening feels it feels like something that was very two thousand thirteen but they they continue on with it and it's still it's still pretty good is still chuck kollek fred arms since tremendously doubted there are still grounds lineup bird on it zach i'll tell you that so far away so what what what sixty minutes wants to do is look at portland as it is right now and try to figure out is it actually the town that's it's portrayed as in the show portland lia this is of the mayor of portland ted wheeler there's one episode where there's a fourway stop in everybody's waiting for everybody else to go go ahead dr no no no no no no no no no no no you first thing you though that is so portland no way people in portland they either love it for the hated and the people who love it love it because it's funny because it's true and the people who hate it hate it because it's true and they talk to the to portland stars friend are missing and carry brown's dean who say they are making fun of the things they see on the tv show like specialty shops that make you wonder how is it possible they're staying in business i'm going to help you with all things a highly that take for example the super specialty shops the show lampoon these four countries do we just by a box of to leave and you go out with what we what we taylor the doilies here to your needs we found a lovely real life shopped with a hundred twenty plus different kinds.
"kiev" Discussed on Ridiculous History
"Worst shire by the way itself is just really weird oh can we do that one yells do that when in a joined doing a leader episodes i think we do in a later episode in the new year okay sounds good so there was some were named olga of kiev and will give kiev had russian foes and olga went through the proxy isn't had some allies offered these russian several tonnes of need and five thousand russians ingested this me and they collapsed really and delirious and they were summarily massacred then in fourteen eighty nine in the same area a russian army absolutely slaughtered ten thousand a totters too drunk too many tasks of this kind of me that the russians had left behind once again in that kinda sneaky uh honey trap early the call i kind of a honey trap not to turn but that's actually what it was and by the way totters added nervous um r a turkish people of a from living in around in and around your asia and eastern europe in northern each then my friend whether you're in the podcast about ghastly crimes or hip hop rhymes there's always something new to discover on spotify though that was excellent always waiting for the b2 drop yes spotify with a mix of originals and many of the world's most popular shows listening to podcast this way is easy right you just open the app tap browse and dive into their growing library and it is growing my friend by leaps and bounds and don't take our word for it you can subscribe to your favorites including our entire archives who you will never miss a single show in what a deep archive at as my friend you can also download podcasts for those moments when you're up in the air or going underground.
"kiev" Discussed on The WordPress Chick Podcast
"See expand on that kiev style not a little bit i saw it if i have a task that i want one of my team to do i can say to them take care of that and then not take any interest in a lighter on other than to chick is it finished so that's almost delegating boy abdication now i know i can do that with certain tasks and with certain team members but i'm still at a point now because this processes and systems in place but first of all i usually stop with his warwick doing this he's where fits into the bigger picture home and his head while you're the best person to contribute this particular task and then actually chicken if it's a longer term zinc chicken regularly inciting ozier do you need help with anything can i help you with something there to move this forward or how's it going and also take a look in give feedback as the working on which is kind of i got out of the wept space well you know it's it's tough it's like if you wanna be a creator you don't wanna be a manager necessarily in ellen so it's it's knowing that um about yourself and one of the things i i if you could share a little bit about you know we we had talked last you were talking about you know going of the philippines that you now for their there's office space and connecting with people and making sure that enough so you there and i'm not saying you're jumping over the philippines all the time to set up teams or anything but that's a whole you have that insight to bring to the table as well as opposed to just doing it all remotely.