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56. La Luna, cmo influye en tu vida

AstroC?bala C?smica

37:58 min | 1 year ago

56. La Luna, cmo influye en tu vida

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Une ligne de force

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30:26 min | 1 year ago

Une ligne de force

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216. Pop Quiz Hotshot : Judas, The Awake Messiah And A Fake Orgasm.

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216. Pop Quiz Hotshot : Judas, The Awake Messiah And A Fake Orgasm.

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Episode 2: How to Gauge Change Readiness in IT Projects

The Minerva PLM TV Podcast Show

30:03 min | 1 year ago

Episode 2: How to Gauge Change Readiness in IT Projects

"Hello, and welcome everyone to our next episode of manoeuvres appeal MTV I'm Jennifer more your host and I have with me today another very special guest Michael Williams software engineer here at Minerva Michael. Welcome. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Thanks so much for joining me. So why don't we get started just by telling me a little bit about yourself with your background and how you ended up at Minerva. Sure, well, basically I'm a software engineer I've been doing engineering for off and on about thirty years started out as a mathematician actually got my bachelor's degree mathematics and then switched over to computer science from a master's degree. I've done engineering in many different fields everything from student loan banking to. Data mining I've also done biotech work worked with the instrumentation group at a major biotech at doing blood machines at blood testing machines. That's some of the stuff that we're seeing actually being used for the covid nineteen testing is one of the instruments that I worked on. So yeah, it's. been a very diverse background I've worked many times with scientists and other engineers. So there's always been a draw for me to the technical side of the domains that I'm in, and that kind of led me to Minerva When I was on the market I happened to see an ad looking for engineering in engineering backgrounds and so I replied to that. Your eye and here we are. We are there s history. Awesome. So. Tell me a little bit about what you do here at Minerva how do you help our customers in? Support different products that are in the park bicycle stays. Good question software engineers are kind of the behind the scenes guy here at Minerva. Most of our clients deal with our solution consultants are solution architects. The software engineers are the very technical guys behind the work. We're the coders were the database managers were the database administrators. Lots of times solution architects will come to us with the requirements that that a client has and we're the guys that make a lot of that happen. So ours is mostly support role. We do interface with clients and that's not. not an unusual thing to happen for us but that's not our primary focus. Our primary focus is supporting our software. Solution Consultants, excellent Barry, Guy. So a lot of times to my understanding whatever you're getting requirements, backgrounds, Lucien Consultants, and whatnot. It really doesn't matter what Industry Company has in. It's your job to kind of translate the business need into what the actual solution will like in the end whether that's. Automating particular process or adding a button that maybe somebody thinks well, how increase productivity is that relatively accurate. That's extremely accurate portrayal of what we do. Okay. A Lotta Times the solution consultants will have a very good idea of what they want. Sometimes, in a lot of cases we'll, we'll get a partial implementation. And it's our job to interpret both the requirements that the solution architect brings to us and the and the technical needs that calm the client has. Until. So a lot of times we're we're sort of doing a meshing of those two things In a sense it's It's our job to really make sure the requirements are met on the technical side We're the solution consultant to the solution architect is making sure the requirements are met on the business side and so it's often a very collaborative effort between the two that you parties there Depending on the the team and depending on the solution and depending on the requirement you'll have different levels of interaction. There are lots of times. The solution architect can and do all of the work depending on what the what the requirement is, and of course, on the other side of that coin lots of times you just need a software guy to crank out a bunch of code and. And make something work and. It really depends you for every. Company in the world or any software company in the world it's hard. That's a very pointed it. It really doesn't matter what the domain is it could be. It could be mortgage banking data mining many many times. You're going to have this this teamwork, the hostess between Business Facing Guy as and the the software technical guys. Okay. Great. So whenever you get involved into a project, I'm sure there's varying levels of complexity across the board depending on what company wants to do and how they're internally defining. Kielland how mature their processes are all of these different things What would you say? There are some of the common things that you see in companies whenever they're trying to adopt any type of new software technology. You know what's happening there project, how you help guide them to a positive result of the things that they should take into consideration. there. That's a really good question and and we see this quite a lot. In our field especially here in the US. Is, is more of an emerging a technology and emerging technique than it is in other places I think even been around for almost thirty years now. Yeah. A lot of companies really are we call them and please don't take offence anybody that this might describe what we call them p. l. m. naive. and. That's not to say that the business doesn't have these processes lots of times what we actually see as they have very well defined processes. They just haven't put them under the peel umbrella and and knitted them together in a really cohesive way and and so to answer your question, one of the first things that we do is we go in and we try to judge a company on a couple of things are are they Pi PM sophisticated? Are they healing naive and to places really because the people that are working there may have some PM sophistication for previous companies they worked for but the company that they're in now may not as a whole have that experience could sin or company, and that's a great point in in a Lotta. Cases. Especially, with engineers, you bring a lot of different experience with you. But it doesn't necessarily translate into that directly into the organization that you're in at that point. And a lot of times you know it's funny because we'll go into a place and. I it's not that the process is really broken. The these are pretty successful companies. Usually they're making money doing something right a lot of times. It's not let's go in and totally revamp everything. You're doing a lot of times it's at you're already doing something right? Let's make sure you have a tool or let's define a process. It will help you get better or be more efficient and. Automation and just things that make their lives easier so that they don't have to do everything in excel spreadsheet or email. Is. Exactly, right and and the one thing that that here in the US that we really see a lot of is what we call the. Process for in the P. L. M. space. It may be different for other companies, but everybody has a change management order or a change request or something that there are a lot of similarities that we see between different companies. Every company is entirely unique in the way that the implemented, but there's a lot of similarities in the way that the process works and we know what's successful and what's not. So you know that's the other thing that we try to judge when we go into a company is. You know. How how can we Them. Getting better at the change management process, and that's that's really the biggest question that that we try to answer when we first are introducing a project or introducing ourselves to a potential client How do you do things? How can we help it? You know those are two different questions and a lot of times. It's our job just to come in and try to find that space in the middle where we can really be of assistance. And again, that's probably true for any type of initiative they're looking at. So whenever a company is thinking, okay, I have some processes that I could probably make better. There's a way for me to support my organization in either reducing cost or making always comes down to. Enabling your people to do better things with air time like innovating new products or Whatever the case may be there it kind of sounds like there's a few things that they can check off to set themselves up for success whenever entering a new project so I've heard from you already. Maturity level of working with business systems and then Maturity out business processes and on the back end of that, you sturbridge chocolate little bit Bowie willingness to change. So everyone working with somebody from the outside hearing their experiences and understanding that they may bring some different perspectives or knowledge to your organization, and how can you as a company baffled from bats or do you really Want to keep the change processes that you have and just making sure that you're making those determinations, understanding the perspectives as you forward Yup, and that's a really really great point that you make. Moving forward to you want to change Do you like the process is you have? In some there are those times when we go into a clients and they say, yes, yes, we're we're ready to do this but really they aren't. And so then you it's a matter of a little bit of finagling and massage, and well, let's really run through the process and show you what you can't do better. In some cases, it is automation like said a lot of times it. You can't just solve a problem by throwing software at it. It just doesn't work that way. You have to be willing to adapt not just to a tool, but to a process or adapt to an entirely new process and notice we really in this whole discussion, we really haven't talked a lot about software. I. Always, it's not always the software's problem. Sometimes, it is the people in. You know we talked about people coming in with varying backgrounds, lots of times those backgrounds, kind of lead to some conflicts in the process of changing to a better process everybody has good input. Everybody has valid ideas and you've got a you've got to be a good negotiator in a lot of ways. This is where software guys aren't usually not good. This is where we leave it to the solution consultants. Usually those guys are very good at the business process and they can make that happen. You know. Let's let's come together. Let's figure out what works. Let's figure out. What is we really want because. A lot of times. That's another question to what is it we really want, and that's very different than what we eat. in. So, those are. Those are what do I want to call it hurdles that we have to get over to get to a really good implementation of a process and sometimes software is a hurdle sometimes. It's dead that the tool isn't working right and we have a process that we like in the tool doesn't support us well, then you know there's a very clear job for the software engineer if it's on the, if it's the other way where the process is broken, the tool is fine but the process doesn't work because there are too many steps or then a Lotta Times what we've seen and we've seen clients recently with this is that the entire process has to change and if there's that resistance to change that that unwillingness to really adapt to a new way of working. Matter you're gonNA use, it doesn't matter what tool you're using. It doesn't matter how much code you throw at it. It doesn't matter how much money you spend. It's going to be a problem. Okay. So again. A kind of theme that I'm hearing is I'm talking to more and more people in different industries within software space and particularly lab is this idea of. Organizational Change Management. going back to that. Topic a little bit and really understanding the impact on your organization as a whole. So from a software engineering perspective in the projects that you've dealt with in how companies. Breakdown that high to make it. Official to they're all and. More readily acceptable whether they're enabling digital process that they already have or maybe adopting a new process. What are some things that you would suggest that they tried to do to increase their success from a perspective? Yeah I, think you have to have in. Willingness to change that that's a big one. Organizational. Change Management is something that. that. We as Minerva can guide. But it isn't something that we can force and. You know as a software engineer year. Your little bit your hands are tied because you know you're possible you can show them what's possible and they can go. Wow, that's great. Let's by it. But. You know the the as you said, organizational change management is really the big deal and it's not just about managing change or a process or your parts or you know something specific this is inside your organization as as we see it from the outside and you know this is where we kind of. It's kind of a two edged sword. If you will because we're consultants and we're on the outside of your organization, we sometimes have a very. High level view of what's going on. In that sense, it helps in some ways because we can't suggest pretty radical change. But in other ways. If they don't like it. With. Can really preserve of managers standpoint because he could say, okay, you know it was a little bit out of the box. You know maybe a little bit too far out of the box. For the way that our company works. So let's take what we thought was good from those ideas and and again for any software project than an internal managers running and pick apart what we like don't like, and then is there a way for them to break those things down that they do like into more manageable pieces like how if you're looking at you a big change process whether it is data mining, which you've got a lot of experience in or I cycle management or whatever how do they break it down? Yeah. In this is kind of where the software engineering process itself can help. We often run water called ITERATIONS There's a very good standardized engineering process in the software world called Agile, and it's been bandied about in a lot of other industries now, but it is particularly effective in software projects. And as that applies to large organizations in how they manage change. Can Be Very What's the word I'm looking for it can help break things down into really bite size manageable chunks you have a very large process in engineering many times and it's not always the best thing to just go in and make a huge change. Perhaps, and this is what we as software engineers call a best practice. Perhaps, the best way to go is to put in a big a big tool, but only work on parts of the process at a time am kind of maybe. We call those in the software world iterations, and so for each iteration were just going to provide a little bit of functionality a little bit of change. Perhaps, it's the way that you deal with an ACO. Perhaps it's cataloging parts Perhaps it's some reporting tool that you're now adopting. Perhaps, it's even project management and how your engineers record the time that they spend doing their their work Each one of those can be broken down into even some tasks from that. And so. When you say some tacit is that view maybe not user specific depending on the user but specific for sure. So soaking, Hey, let's make a let's make changes in the way that the SEO process works and get our engineers more efficient. and. Then maybe the next iteration is ain't no project managers are having a hard time categorizing how to organizing the resources should be allocated. Okay. So let's do that for the next iteration and you see in that sense, we can take a very large project and break it down into very manageable chunks and maybe over a two week or three week or a month period, we can introduce functionality that eases at process. So it makes organizational change management, which is this huge nebulous. Concept it can break it down into these very small manageable pieces, and from there it's easy for us to go in and say he you know, let's make a priority list of the things we want to get done, and then here's what we're gonNA spend on the first iteration. Here's what we're going to do. The second iteration. Here's what we expect the third iteration, etc, and so invade. Each is the company like putting their users on the system and actually using the functionality and That is the exact end goal of every iteration at the. We want to users using that functionality. The fact that you brought up reporting, for example, because they get something that everybody can relate to no matter what they're doing. Because if you if you think okay, I, have thirty seven things I want to report on and you try to give people thirty-seven brand new reports at once. How many reports are they actually GonNa look at bright and how many of them to the US every week every day. That's another great question and and it's a perfect example of how we would break something down. Say You have thirty seven reports? Let's go through each one of them and see. Number. One Who they're important to number two, how often they're used number three how much time does it take to make that report words and number four? How accurate is the data that you're using for reporting and each one of those things would need to be addressed for each one of those thirty seven reports right. Then Hey, now we've got a priority list. This was used the most this one is the least accurate. This one we just like to. A Dashboard and. The CEO Guys WanNa see a dashboard okay. So that's number three. Right, right and of course dashboards do have their. Uses. But they're not the only thing? No No. Not at all in fact. What we find in the real world is the best reports are one of two things either their bomb structures where We're looking for specific things in apart structure in with huge assemblies That's always a big deal, but number two is project management resource allocations. And reporting on that is the is probably the number two thing that we see. Okay Well I think we kind of circled around a couple of different topics topics here, which is amazing but it really does all flow into the same thing right? which is when you're thinking about making any kind of changed your organization. Who's going to be, impacted. How mature your processing systems today Are you across the board getting the buy in from your people that they are ready and willing to change. Right it's not GONNA be easy. Right is always hard. Was Hard and there are definitely. Aspects of change that are gonna be a really well for some people. Over other people. How do you keep doing that iterative thing you know to increase Adoption usability comfort. Happiness. Levels in ultimate. Success Levels. Using Agile as your. Foundation for these rations has that applied back to these internal teams and how they can make decisions and set themselves up for success in in in a couple of the situations that we've seen a company has set up what's called appeal MTM. Where they either have a couple of members from each of the groups that are represented. In. The PM process not necessarily just in the tool, but in the entire process. Or, we have one person who's in charge of the whole thing and. that one person is typically running a behind the scenes. Team type meeting anyway. So a lots of times when we find success, what we're trying to do is through each one of the iterations address a top one or two things for each one of the groups that might be affected or. Might have significant problems in the process that need to get solved. And so by using agile. It's a very nice way for we is as software engineers and solution architects to organize the way that the work will be delivered numb part at part of the the best practices that we see in. Software Engineering. With this, this agile process is it. Not just iterative development but iterative deliveries. And so every couple of weeks or maybe once a month, we're going to give you some offer and it's going to have new features. And we're going to address each one of those groups that's in the PLM team at least with one or two features. Maybe, it's a bug fix maybe it's one of your thirty-seven reports Maybe it's data cleansing Maybe you like to have a better log in screen with a fancy logo. Who knows what it is? But the agile process allows us to organize the things that are the top priorities and make those fixes I make those features i. And add more and more functionality as we go and I it's at that In that sense, it's about refinement of the tool and refinement of the process rather than a huge change all at once which as you said, before is tough and it's hard and nobody likes it through an editor of process We ease those changes into the organization and it makes it easier to get that buy in by everybody and to get everybody on board, and what we find is that everybody starts working with the tool earlier in the process and we get better feedback. So as we refined, we get better and better adoption and actually makes a Lotta Sense Michael Thank you. Are there. Any other considerations that you'd think a company should be looking at before they start a technology project is going to implement change. Yeah The one thing that we really haven't talked about today Jennifer is is is real technical side and as software engineers when we go into a new client especially. That's one of the first things that we want to take a look at, and this is kind of where I seek out. When I get there my the first thing I try to do is connect with the it guys hey. Are you using the cloud. Server Farm Alex Checkout. Really geeky stuff. Puts a huge smile on my face and I'm glad you laugh. Sales everybody laughs at the GEEKS. Get dining here. But that those are real big concerns and. You know I think a lot of cases those aren't taking into account upfront, and one of the things that we see remember we talked before about naievety versus Maturity. In. A lot of times especially companies that we deem that are kind of not. Naive they're also it naive. They say they come in and say, Hey, we want to do this big change. Hey, we think a tool would help. They don't quite think it all the way through to the very end where the technical part has to be there. and. So that's that's a big thing for us when we first get involved is come in and assess where they are not just in a business process since but technically as well. That overarching infrastructure and M sure that if they have. Just one location, right that may be a little bit simpler but if they have suppliers or other divisions communicating with in. Parts of the world, but it looks like over there and how they're vault structures might need to be set up all. Things that are GonNa make the tour actually usable. Yeah. One of the things. To take place at all that. Yeah. Exactly. One of the things we see in a lot of cases is manufacturing plants and the ERP systems aren't very different places than headquarters which are in very different places, design centers, and and so you know cloud based or or Sir client based solutions need to take those things into consideration as well. One of the clients that we've been dealing with recently has a a very, very complex PM to ERP integration. No, it's not just a software thing. It's also networking thing and their headquarters is in Europe and their design center is in Minneapolis, Saint, Paul and so yeah there's a big consideration on how networks. Traffic. Just a SMIDGE. Know network speeds and traffic, and and late and see and redundancy. All those things need to be taken into account and. Without having that technical discussion up front. You lots of times you can design a beautiful system. But. It's not gonNA work in the end because you haven't taken those things into account as a matter of there's no speed, right? Five. Minutes to load. Of that tool now, that's way too long by five seconds is too long. Yeah. That's right. So awesome. Well, thank you so much cycle Any. Final thoughts or last words wisdom's share. Last words of wisdom. And wish my kids would take the ask me that Dan. yeah I think one of the things to consider in all seriousness is As a business, there's A. Kind of a fallacy that exists. And the fallacy is. Kind of twofold, if we throw more money at it, if we throw more tack at it, it'll go away. And Especially here in the US we kind of need to to guide companies past that in and it's not. It's not that nine women can have a baby in a month and it never will be that way. and. So sometimes, you just have to accept the fact that things are hard. Things are complex and change organizational change especially as one of those things and so patience is required and communication is required and imagination is required like that. Absolutely heavy dose immagination absolutely almost anything is possible. But it takes time to get there and it takes resources to get there and it's our job as consultants as a consulting company to to guide you get to get there, but it takes imagination patients in endurance. Excellent. Thanks again, Michael so much for your time I really appreciate it and I hope to have. Day Yeah that sounds great. Awesome. Day You too bye-bye. Thanks everyone for joining us. We really appreciate the opportunity to share lots of insight information with you about running technology projects and making them more successful in your organization of our what type of technology project you're doing like this content make sure to hit a button and subscribes to be alluded to future content, and of course, drop your comments or send me an email at J. Mo at Dash Kiel Dot com about any questions that you have that you'd like to see addressed here. Thanks everyone and have a great day.

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Revenge: Career Advice (Book 5, Chapter 29)

Harry Potter and the Sacred Text

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Revenge: Career Advice (Book 5, Chapter 29)

"We wanted to let you know about an exciting opportunity. There is currently one spot available for Charlotte Bronte, gene, air pilgrimage in the West Yorkshire moors this summer from June second to June eighth. You can learn more at Harry Potter sacred texts dot com by clicking on the orange button. That says more about our pilgrimages. Chapter twenty nine careers advice. But why haven't you got clemency lessons anymore said her mind any frowning, I told you modern airy sleep reckons I can carry on by myself. Now, I've got the basics. So you stopped having funny dreams said her money skeptically. I'm Vanessa Zoltan. And I'm Kyle, and this is Harry Potter and the sacred text friends, we'd love to see you at some live shows coming up, we have a Harry Potter and the sacred texts live show in holyoke, western Massachusetts on may eighth Vanessa and Arianna doing a live show of the women of Harry Potter hearing, Cambridge Omay fourteenth, come to Harry Potter secret, Tech's dot com and bio tickets that. So Vanessa, you know, that my family is Dutch, even though I grew up in England, and my maternal family has a shed house showed my cousins on my second cousins, and it was built after the second World War. And it's right on the coast right on the beach in Holland, and it's cooled freedom to Fe, and it was built in honor of my great uncle who was killed in the second World War out sea and his unspent wages went towards building. This this family house, and I grew up going that a couple times a year the whole family gathers at Easter we'd be there in the summer and the town is a tourist destination writes, right on the beach. And so a lot of people come and visit including a number of Germans who travel across the border and come vacation and growing up. I used to cool my whole family cold these tourists Ditka. Deutsches which the treatments like fat Germans, which is obviously so rude and inappropriate. But what this was actually about is that my grandpa. Parents. My great grandparents had a thing for their experience of the second World War. Holland was occupied by Nazi Germany, my grandparents met, the resistance, the Dutch resistance movement, and my mom was given money by my grandparents when she failed a German test zoo like anything to discourage him from succeeding at jevon. Even the Jevons. Of course, a fabulously beautiful language. So I'm thinking how each of these small little things, right? The money for failed. Great the way to talk about these tourists like all of them were little revenge is against a Nazi occupation. Which at that point had been decades ago, but had still shaped my family's memory. So I'm interested to think about revenge is something that happens sometimes in the moment, but sometimes can be generational, and I was actually acting out that revenge without even knowing that I was doing it. But the nessa there's one thing that I need to have revenge on fest, which is winning the thirty second recap. Because I want it last week in San Francisco. And in LA. Yeah. But that's not recorded people. Don't hear that. But I know it was true. Sorry for your lock. All right. Thirty seconds on the clock chapter thirty careers advice in the UK addition career advice in the US addition. Here we go. So they're all deciding what it is that they want to do for their career, and Harry is really sulking because he really wants to talk serious because he hates the idea that out was about person and the twins are like, oh, we want to do a big stinky thing anyway, so you can go and talk in his office serious. What we do this destruction? In the meantime, he means with mcgonagall and bridges like Harry is fill in my classroom. Mcgonigal's like I will make sure that he doesn't fail and that he becomes an order if he wants to and then he goes to talk series and series. It's like not that bad of a guide in front. George set off all the things and give them hell peeves. I was very strong Inc. You so much happens. I loved this chapter. It's a really good job. That's so fun and off the twins. I can't believe they leave Lee Jordan behind always the third wheel. I know just because he's not a twin on your Mark get set up. So in the classic Hollywood tradition. This seems sent his around to ground dumbs having the most amazing not even witty banter. It's like nasty perfect Zinger banter. I will make sure Potter is an or if it's the last thing I do. And then number just like we all now understand to you want Dumbledore to be minister mcgonigal's, secretly thinking inside note. I wanna be I wanna be the Minnesota. Anyway, it's an amazing scene. We learn about different careers tracks. But was much more fantastic. Is those perfect repartee moments. Cambridge mcconnell. And that's where I went in for like one scene analysis. Just because I thought yours was so evocative. Thank you gal fulsome rich in detail. If you think I'm an interrupt you from complimenting me you who are awfully mistaken. What else was I I love that is the mall. Did I look beautiful while doing it? Exact. So let's dive into this team of revenge Vanessa, and let's look at the scene that use show powerfully drew our attention to I think that that's a great place to start. So I think that there is an argument to be made that number just sitting in this room like rubbing it in having won. Yes. Right, which I don't think we're vengeance. Just the business of blues IRS. Oh, I'm in this moment feeling as though she has one and she is rubbing it in mcgonigal's face. We'll also this is really interesting Vanessa because we're vengeance. Is not always about the person that go taking revenge out on right? She is going all in on macgonagall. But it is mostly about Dumbledore if not other things in his life that we just haven't had the privilege of learning about so far, I'm bridges being her usual odious self hint can read she starts by just clearing her throat, and then it becomes more constant coughing. And then in the end, I mean, they are shouting at one another while hurry sitting there, and it's a sensibly about Harry's future career choice. Right. Whether he can be an aura will not an ember just saying like his grades and get enough in my defense against the dark arts Clawson. We're gonna go like a your grades don't matter because you're an incompetent teacher. Right. So we see this conflict, grow and grow. But I think that emerges revenge is is really about taking it out on someone who represents Dumbledore rather than. Mcgonigal's specifically. That's interesting. I definitely want to explore that idea. Why she so mad at Dumbledore? But I also think that macgonagall is the teacher that we have seen most blatantly inconsistently disrespect on bridge in her classroom. She was like can I help you? What are you doing here? I'm interested to hear more about why you think that this is actually about Dumbledore because I'm compelled just by mcgonigal's there, and like questioning umbrage is a thority. An unabridged is dictatorship all the way. Nobody will question my thority. Even if that means I have to now sit in on one on one meetings. Like, if I were the headmaster of a school talking about something that I would feel was beneath my notice right is a fifth years career advice meeting cool gares, but she hates macgonagall. She hates Harry will now see now you'll starting to sway. Me because of course, mcgonagall has just some of the best lines. Like, she knows how to handle on bridge the best out of any car to that we've met. So it's really disdainful the end she just says very calmly off to number just kind of being shouting. You are raving and kind of her revenge on bridges snow get sucked into that dysfunction in the anger. So this plenty of reason is you say umbrage to want to take revenge mcgonagall just because she's being the least able to be manipulated like she can get Dumbledore fired. Right. And she did. But maybe she can't get rid of macgonagall in the same way. Yeah. I wonder if mcgonigal's just like, you know, functionally a good teacher right on a head of house. Right. There's a very practical pasta Cav roll like who would take that on a you're to give that to, you know, a ghost any like bridge wants power. I'm Ridgewood would love to walk in and be able to say now and the Griffin door head of house to can you imagine? But I do wonder if I'm bridge thinks of herself as someone with integrity. And therefore is like Minerva mcgonigal's, technically competent teacher. I am a woman of integrity. So I will not fire her thumb. His really interesting Vanessa because we have seen numbers throughout these books. Really followed the rules. Yes, she's changing the rules in order to follow them. But she's very oriented around control on that grid of you good to evil, and then chaotic to ordered she's very much on the audit evil, and do you know, what this is making me think of is little kids also will do this where they're technically following the role of being terrible. Like, you put your hand right in front of your siblings. Face. And you're like, I'm not touching. You. You can't get mad not touch me. You can't get mad and that is sort of umbrage is doing. Now, the goal is to get your sibling to hit you. And then be like, how dare you resort to violence. You monster your in trouble now, and I'm bridges like, I'm not doing anything. You can't be mad. I'm just sitting here. You can't get mad in. I've something to say you can't get mad and she's trying to. Bait mcgonagall into doing something potentially worth firing in by keeping someone who she dislikes but thinks she can control. It's actually a beautiful tactical. Move of like, but look it's not about who. I liked him. Don't like I don't like macgonagall. But she's a good teacher. I haven't fired her right? I'm persuaded. I don't think this is about a Moldova's much as I did before. I think that's really true. I mean, I do think that this is about unbridged wanting to carry as much power for fudge as she can. Right. And so it is interesting. It does seem like this micro revenge. The way that you were talking about it with your family of like really you are now the headmistress of Hogwarts, and you are the whatever minister of education is this the battlefield that you think strategically to your advantage. And it does seem like this like name calling guerrilla warfare that she is engaged in of like Dumbledore is gone. And so it is my world now. The thing that really scares me about this finesse that you'll helping me connect the dots. With is that that kind of micro or vengeful that the change in language unleashes potential real violence. We see Harry with the visibility cloak in his office. Having just spoken to serious. See filch come in and like takeout paperwork, which allows him to whip students, and he says you not been waiting forever for this. And it's a comical moment kind of. But it displays this terrifying. Truth that when those micro revenge is right when that language changes when the culture shifts what you unearth is something that has been hateful and latent it's been buried, but not dead and filch his hunger for physical violence against children. Is the terrifying result of what will happen? And we see it happen in the coming books against kids. Yeah. No, it's terrible. I had such mixed feelings reading about the scene. You know, obviously knowing that Fred and George get out from the clutches to fetch and reading it through. The revenge of like, Fred and George have been making filters life harder for the last six years. Right. They've been causing swamps and setting off fireworks and filch is the one who's going to have to clean up the swamp. Don't use magic. Right. And they've been stealing from him for years. They stole them Rogers map from him. They have really been tormenting him for a long time. So it makes sense to me that he went and followed up on this decree when the opportunity presented itself specifically with Fred, and George, and I do I just have such a problem with spoiled kids at a boarding school wreaking havoc that like is taken out on the janitorial staff in this very much comes from my experience working at Harvard. And it drives me crazy when I see students act disrespectfully the grounds thinking that. They are thumbing their nose at daddy. Harvard when really they're thumbing their nose at the custodial staff that's underpaid. And yet thank God for George. No there. Leaving because how horrible would it be? If this was suddenly state-sanctioned abuse. It made me wonder like is revenge ever a good motivation? Are people ever actually satisfied by revenge? That's such a good question. Because like something that I love about the United States is that you get tried by a jury of your peers, you do not get tried by the victims of your crimes, right because I think we fundamentally believe that if it was the victims of crimes who got to decide they would be seeking revenge not Justice. And I really like that about the United States that we separate the ideas of revenge in Justice, and that the same time juries will often hear from the victims in ask like, what would make you feel better. I have a really vengeful nature of like we all do. And I do think it comes from like wanting them to grow. But I do I want them to know the thing that they did that's bad. And I'm just wondering if that's ever actually satisfying really makes me think of the contrast of snipe and Syria some James in the previous chapter. We heard this horrible. Horrible attack that the marauders kind of inflict on snake dot group of full who will like supreme in the school Yod now are at the very edges of society. If they're still alive and snipe is a professor Hogwarts and still has you know has the status and gets the status both within the death eater. Yes circles, and I'm in the Hogwarts world. Exact. So he's kind of got this double. I mean, obviously, it's not a pleasant experience for most of the time. But he carries the status in both worlds. And he's not happy, and he gets every day to inflict his revenge on Harry and the cost right? He can makes Harry feel small and I don't see snake being any happier. And what I do see when as we know snake both die, and in that dying moment, he changes, his heart softens, and he returns to actually matters to him, which is the woman he loved and who he is not being able to be with. Yeah. I'll smaller selves are always going to be vengeful. Right. That feeling that you have an I have that. Most people have when something horrible happens to us. Like, we we want the other doesn't. Stuff too. But if we can imagine, okay, I have five minutes left to live is that what you're going to have on your heart. No. So yes. And no, right. What drives me nuts is the idea that people who've perpetrated crimes die on their death bed with no sense of regret. No sense of the pain. They've inflicted upon others. You know, and frankly with our president, I don't think he stays up at night thinking about the suffering in the mirror that he's causing in people's lives. And I think that something that I've learned by doing this podcast is how much apologies matter to me. What I like about apologies is not the humbling aspect of them. But it's the promised to do better in not to muse about Justice versus revenge. Right. I think that if somebody is really gonna learn and say now, I want to do different. And I think everybody has to be ready to hear it. Right. Like, I don't think sleep sixteen would be ready to hear James say, I'm so sorry for everything. I did. And because of everything I did to you. I want to be a better person. But I do think. Perhaps if James had lived they would have been able to have those conversations and then snap wouldn't have felt the desire for revenge, and instead could have heard a heartfelt apology. But I think that until somebody shows signs that they want to change revenge. Feels like the only way that you can get that change. Right. It's like I'm gonna have to force you to be different because you are not going to offer it to me. Right. So actually think there's a place in the text where we see that on a very small scale. But for me, it's dynamic, Harry and Ginny are in the library. And Ginny eastern so genie's brought an Easter egg that mrS Weasley has sent him hurries, very moved. And he has a little bit of the chocolate and suddenly the librarian Madame pins screams at them and kind of like hounds them out of the library in a way that seems kind of like overly intense. It's like it's Easter it or eating chocolate egg. Right. And it's like the not is violating books or something. But clearly here is a woman who's hot to do the same thing. Multiple times a day every day for the last however, many is. Of korea. And no one has come back. Same unimpaired? I'm sorry. I'm gonna do better. Let me help you with a campaign to void people eating in the library. That's such a good point. What I mean? So like the huff us on this issue is so short because she has to do this all the time. And it never changes the kids might learn the lessons on like an individual level. But they're never gonna go and apologize. And then the next year of kids just comes into makes this same problem. Exactly. Exactly. So I I really resonate with your point. The revenge can be hopefully transformed perhaps at least cooled by an acknowledgment of what you did on an an attempted an apology if it's sincere. Yeah. So I wonder how it would be different for your family, right? If there was a formal apology from Germany, not just a Germany. I think has done in. We've all acknowledge a very good job in trying to do reparations. But on a personal level of like, oh my gosh. You know, we're now tourists here and we occupied this land. And it wouldn't look. It was if we were successful were so sorry, you know, what's really lovely Vanessa. It's so interesting because one of my dearest friends in life, and one of my best friends from college is jumping off gem of Croatian. And like we talked about the legacy of the second World War on family and in my family. I can't remember her explicitly saying like I'm sorry because also it's not our policy to make right with the same age when are both early thirties. But having that friendship I lived in Berlin for yet. Like the relationships that came out and the friendships that are built now I feel like in some way, not just heal that wound. But there's an acknowledgement at this point in time of what happened on how wrong it was like, I am not going to tell my children, dick Deutsches. I'm not going to use that language now that I understand what it meant like at this point. That revenge has melted. And new bridges have been built also as you know, my partner is German, right? And I'm the grandchild of holocaust survivors in. He's the grandchild of Vanessa officer high-ranking necess- officer, and it was like something we avoided talking about. And then there was one night. Obviously where we couldn't help talk about it. Then there was a moment where he met my siblings. And and we started playing cards against humanity. Go no. So in Peter's, just like such a trooper hit never played before in English. I he's beyond fluent English English is his third language, and this is like a very cultural like game, and he played so well and was so funny and like just really clever everybody was getting along. So well, and then at the end, we all turned in our extra cards, and I can't remember if it was Hitler or the holocaust. He had one of those cards, and he put it down. He's like, I didn't know how to play that. How long did you have it? And he was like who the whole game. I would never play that card, and it just felt like the universe was like making us as a family acknowledged this in those relationships are so beautiful. Right. Like, I do think that these things can heal over time. But there does need to be these moments of of admission or reconciliation, right? If we had just never talked about it. If if Peter had played that card for the funniest affect the just cleverest effect. It would have been a very different thing. But it was this little admission of like, let's all acknowledge that. This isn't really weird situation. I think got us to the next moment. Seven s it. Let's look at the final place where we really see an obvious example of revenge, which is the twins becoming sex symbol vary. I this is the moment. I mean, this is Fred and George central like, this image of them summoning that brooms saying like, oh, you think you're gonna have it out against us. No. We don't need what you'll offering we've left. You a stinking smelling swamp where outta here. Peace. And if any of you wanna follow in our footsteps and continue to wreak havoc. This is how you can do. It comes back to your money on new joke show, yet would you like up? This is how much we don't need. You also have a wonderful way to inspire. Harry of like, look at what we're doing with your money that you gave as what a wonderful way to honor Cedric rightly modest the blood money from Cedric go to sort of other, and they are like fighting evil with it. Right juno. What I'm suddenly seeing we had just described unbridged as evil Oded. If you think about Cedric, he is good ordered, right? Harry is chaotic good Cedric would have been with them. Right. Cedric follows the rules, but has a sense of goodness and direction which like you could trust his goodness. So I love seeing this moment of revenge from the twins against birds as actually a moment of honoring Cedric. That's incredible. And I think it's based off of. Something that you said in our in our last episode about how Cedric wouldn't have died if he wasn't so good if he hadn't grabbed Harry's hand and said like, let's do this together. He wouldn't be debt. His goodness is what faded him the way that it did. And so I do I see this is honoring him, and like sort of wish that MSN MRs diary were there to be like. Yeah. That money is being put to really good use right now on that's what I'm thinking. Is that you know, so often we think about revenge is if I suffered I want you to suffer. But as they say, sometimes the best revenge is living a good life. Right. Like is is not letting that as much as possible shape who you are. Or how you are what you do and the twins are right like they don't need newts to open this incredible joke. Shop festival they've tested the products. They've gotten incredible creativity. In the skill to make them happen. And they've got the investment. They've literal ready bolted premises by this point. So just like revenge in a moment is actually never as juicy or delights. For you personally as something that has been beautifully planned executed. And then if possible you do it with a bang, you know, well, and they weren't cutting off their nose despite their face, right? They don't like quit in moment of haste. I have such mixed feelings about the best revenge is a good life. It's something that my mother would say me whenever I was bullied in high school. You know, she was like eleven so you get to go home and be you, and I'm just like that is the security blanket of losers, right? Like that is the security Lincoln of the bullied. I get to go home. And be mean, you have to go home and be you. But I also think it's true. I think it's like a bitter pill to swallow. But I think actually there is value for the war. I think this is the moment Trelawny being fired was a shock to the system. But most of the students will like she's bad teacher. Like, I'm sad. This is obviously, you know, horrible for her. But like, I kinda professor enzyme lending. We'll hear the whole school is applauding with seeing the whole school United against umbrella. Wjr you've got to hope. That this is actually one of the best moments where you're seeing the majority of Hogwarts convene together, at least in that passive support way against umbrella publicly. They're literally teaching people how to be like good at revenge to be clear. I would be standing there being like how do I throw my bra after them? Suit casper. We are now going to do the spiritual practice of parties. I have picked a sentence at random in my kindle edition of this book and the sentence that making her landed on is the minister of magic will never employ Harry Potter. Him. So the first step of parties is shot in which we ask ourselves with the intended meaning of the sentences. What is the intended meaning of the minister of magic will never employ Harry Potter? So this is bridge really escalating the conversation with a mcgonagall about Harry and his career advice meeting. Harry said, wow. Maybe I'd like to be an aura megani was like. Well, let's tricky you're gonna have to get great grades, and all of these classes, and I don't accept students who don't have, you know, exceeding expectations grade or something like that. And I'm bridge keeps inserting the reasons why that would not make sense and ultimately results to this phrase. What she's saying like listen to get hired as an aura, you need the ministry too, high you and the minister will never high a Harry Potter within. Which of course, it sort of a sumptiousness that the ministers gonna stay fudge. Frankly, it also thought, Harry, we'll get the grades. He needs to be an aura in the even if he got the grades. It would be something personal about him. Right. So she showing her. Hand that she's not as upright this whole order thing that we've talked about it's kind of revealed not to be true hit or that. She doesn't think fudges ordered right? The minister will never higher so ding ding, dang, five points Letheren. Great job. Casper next step of parties is remers what we do with Rama's. We pick one word out of the sentence. And we trace it throughout the seven bucks and see how that inflex the sentence with the different more nuanced new, meaning so what word would you like to use casper? Can you read it for us? One more time happily the minister of magic will never employ Harry Potter. I want to go with the wet never. Ooh. Okay. Where else do we see the word? Never. I mean, this is kind of cheating. But because for me, it's so interesting to put in contrast with ole ways right in always as a word is so emblematic of sleep. And so to have never be this other word like who might attached to. I think it's just really interesting Janda jerseys. The jersey is never speak to the Potters in like the first chapter. It's like pitch union never speaks to her sister. I'm also thinking of Neville, right? Who is born on the same day in the prophecy could have been about him. But right. It's never about Neville rights, always about Harry. And yet, of course, at the end of the books, we're going to see him on the where it really is about Neville. That's famille ready. This shadow in the wet Nevo, which is like never say, never, right? Like, there's always a chance. I'm thinking of Ron, right? He's never in the spotlight right things. Have again, always about Harry, I'm thinking about how Molly is saying to the twins like you'll never be successful. Right. Like. You have to go to school at you'll never finish school. If you keep going like this. She was right. Exactly. I'm also thinking of high-grade in how he never gets to finish his education. He's kept in this limbo, kind of cat take a role in of course, then does become a teacher. But but never is really given a one back. Yeah. Never morals. Do we think of never Luben tells talks that they'll never get married may do right? So this is interesting. So we're starting to see a pattern of seeing never and things than do happen. Key read the sentence. Again, just didn't see how we here at this time. The minister of magic will never play. Hurry pablo. Barrett. Is right. Like, actually, probably will do you think? I mean, we don't find out of Harry's in org within the canon. So we only casper. And I we confess only know the seven bucks we like put up our blinders to all the other stuff, but we never find out whether or not Harry becomes an or I remember it being the thing. I found most frustrating about that very last chapter. I love the last chapter of the Harry Potter books. Controversial I now, but. The one thing. I really frustrating is that you don't find out what his profession is which itself might be a critique on how we engage with one another. When we meet new people because the first question, we always ask is. So what do you do which is such an unsatisfying question to really get to know someone that we know how important it is to Harry to become an order and we've loved him for seven bucks. It'd be nice to know if he got hit to reach his dream or not. But yes, I do think that your point stands that. There is going to be a different time in which I'm minister of magic would employ Harry Potter the fact that number cannot see past the end of her nose in just thinks that her current moment of power is going to be the new status quo. I think just shows how out of touch with reality. She is to everything there is a season, right? Like five hundred year regimes fall. She's had power for a second. And she's already like that will never the other thing that this conversation has made me realize about always which. Is that is also not true. The greatest way that sniper could show his love for lily is by having some basic compassion for the son that she died for and he never does. And so the fact that he says I will always love her. It's a lie. Right. He will not always he will at all times pine for her. But it's not the he will always love her and the way that he wants to think that that is true in his dying moments. He does. So it's it's not that it's completely untrue. But I think what was being maybe is that both always never are patchy right? Those absolutes on just impossible. Well, so that leads us so nicely into Drage, which is the third stage of days in which we ask ourselves. If this piece of taxed was our liturgy for the week. What would we preach on do you mind reading it for us casper? Yes. The minister of magic will never employ Harry Potter. The thing that I'm hearing on this reading, and perhaps the message that I would say is that sometimes revenge can be fuel. Right. That this is someone being told what they cannot do. And we know that sometimes that's the most driving force to show you even if I don't want myself, even if it's not good for me. Even if it is the hottest thing ever gonna do what matters to me is that you see that you are wrong, and the I can do this. Now, I'm not saying that healthy. Oh, that's gonna make you happy. But it can put fire onto your behind. And to some extent it does for Harry. I guess if I was preaching on this. I would say to look at what our motivations, right? Like why why do we want the things that we want? What is this really about? Is it about proving someone wrong that might be? Okay. But is that what you wanna spend to a life doing is proving someone wrong who might not even care about? What you do? What is on motivation? Let's the question of it. Ask. How about using us? I mean, I cannot believe that I'm about to say this. But I think I would really pretrial in our inability to tell the future any way the things that I have thought in have been wrong on things like I will not live to see gay marriage be legalized to I will not live to see a black president to Trump would never win. Right. Like, I am a terrible. Older in any way. Right. Like, I'm not somebody who is great at living in the present in. I don't even know if that's what I would call people to just because I think that there are other preachers out there who could speak to that more authentically and give better lessons on it. But to be humble as we try to plan for the future, whenever we have grand plans of things that we really want to do or things that we will never do beautiful. So our last step is so in which we ask the taxed if it has a secret for us, and we see if a secret emerges, and sometimes it emerges out to one of our listeners in the new Email us about it. And we love those emails so Email us your Soad's. But I'll read it one more time in we'll see a soda emerges to one of us. The minister of magic will never employ Harry Potter. Can you tell it occurred to me, what's the what's the sewed that you had I'm bridges accusing mcgonagall of winning all this power. But under just showing her hand as actually being the power, hungry one. She's speaking on behalf of the minister of magic, she has no idea what the minister of magic would went fudge goes with the wind to books ago. Fudge was in love with Harry. Now, he's frustrated Carey she has no idea in just the audacity of her the minister of education to speak on behalf of the minister of magic. This is a power grab to say I can speak on behalf of him. And so just be careful when somebody is accusing you of something like they are actually revealing something about themselves. I think that's so smart that the thing that struck me is that Harry's motivation to be an aura is to protect people is to make the world a better place. Right. He he wants to serve and he's not actually going to need to be employed to do that work. In fact, he's been doing that work for five years already. And I think like I just had this in a professional context where I kind of went looking for someone's advice in guidance. And literally what they ended up saying it was like, yo you you're already doing it. Like, you don't need more help. I see you doing it. And so I think maybe the sewed for me is that we go out looking for for certification for something that we might already be doing and we already doing it. Really? Well, and so sometimes this thing's unnecessary right to get paid to be recognized, whatever. But sometimes we are just not good enough at recognizing our own gifts and the amazing things were already doing. So that's the sewed for me in this moment is the Harry's already an aura. I love that sewed, and it explains the last chapter of the book better to me like we don't need to know whether or not he became an order. He's been nor. We just watched him be an oral but seven. It doesn't matter how he's making his living. His dream came true of being part of this resistance in bringing down voldemort. This week's voicemail is from cap, Saddam. Hi, Vanessa casper in Arianna, my newest cat, and I'm from the San Francisco Bay area. Then I am such a huge fan of this podcast. I just finished the episode on curiosity book five chapter twenty four and I just wanted to expand upon something that Vanessa touched upon Vanessa. You said that when it comes to people in your life you like to follow their lead in curious about them in terms of caring for them in what they need. You also followed that up by saying that, however, sometimes you don't know what you need. So that maybe you take that too far. And I have a lot of experience with this lately. Because for the last few years I've had a series of very traumatic events of befall me. And the first one was in two thousand sixteen when my mother died and for the first time in my life. I was truly incapacitated by. Grief and trauma in sorrow. And I had some wonderful leading friends who would say, I love you. I hear I am here for you. You just tell me what you need, and I will do that. But I didn't know what I needed. I didn't know how to ask for help. And so they didn't show up and they weren't there. And I felt really sad and hurt and lowly as a result. And so I think in those cases curiosity is still great. But just shifting the curiosity just a little bit. So rather than saying tell me how I can help you using your curiosity to think about that person. And what's happening in think what in their life might be completely falling apart right now, maybe they've been at a hospital every day for three weeks visiting someone. So they haven't had a home cooked meal, and you could bring them some food. Maybe their dog has been you know, alone what their house, and so maybe you could offer to walk their dog. Or maybe you could just leave them. A funny voice mail, reminding them that no matter what they're going through you still think they're a fun friend and a lovely person to know. I just want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to give voice to this thoughts in for all the amazing work that you do. This is so good for me to hear right now. I just let down a friend in a way that I just still feel really bad about and just you'll voicemails helping me think creatively about how I can demonstrate my affection and commitment to this friend, even though it just failed them in in some way. So of that's really good advice. That's good advice. It's such good advice. And it gave me permission to put the onus back on me of like, I'll say well. I offered help and they didn't take any right? And now, I'm like, okay. I offered help. And they they didn't have an idea. So here's some ideas that I have. And I just think that that's so wise end, I think you like also does help us brainstorm, some really good ideas. I literally had like three ideas. Welcome was talking. I was like, oh, I could do that. Well that. Walked my dog for me when I was set hates dog one time that does not deserve credit is variously so casper. It's now time for us to offer a blessing who would you like to bus this week? So I can't help but bless the twins in this chapter. But I want to bless them for something. Maybe a little unexpected we hear from Ginny early on in the chapter. She describes her own character as shaped by her older brothers. She said it's impossible to grow up with them and not feel like anything is possible. And I was just like what a beautiful thing for youngest sibling to say about an older in this case two older brothers that they have expanded her imagination of what life can mean also that they don't do this during people's revision time and exams because they want to respect people's scholarly work. I love them so much if the most thoughtful disruptive act at so blessing for the twins, and you know, any older siblings who are muddling a way of life for the younger, siblings and younger sibling who appropriately appreciates their older flying. Also true goes if you're listening, Johnny if you're listening how about you Vanessa who you blessing this episode sale. I'm going to bless Hannah Abbott again, just blessed her two weeks ago 'cause she was having innings -iety attack. And now she is like frantically trying to check out books from the library to keep studying. And I want to bless her for two reasons. One is that she is trying to do something about her anxiety. Right. She's like trying to study. She's taken a very practical approach. It is making me anxious that I'm gonna fail. So I'm going to study. And so when I wanna bless that. Because I think that if you're feeling guilty that you're a bad friend. You can't fix all of your friendships all the time, but you can call one person, and like just do a little something to help yourself in these moments of despair that we all go through the other reason, I want to bless her because we all know that things like anxiety. Don't just go away like Madam Humphry treated her once with the calming draft, and like, obviously has not entirely worked. And so I just want to bless, you know, I bless people who are struggling with anxiety two weeks ago. And I just would like to acknowledge that like your anxiety has not gone away. And you can do. Everything. Right. You taking your medicine. You can be going to therapy. You can be checking up from the library. 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1179 D&S: New House, Stolen Piano, and the Facebook Group

The Nice Guys on Business Podcast

50:34 min | 5 months ago

1179 D&S: New House, Stolen Piano, and the Facebook Group

"More anonymous than the federal witness protection program. It's the nice guys on business. Come on dude. You're you're better than this year. Dj team back again. Check it out. Let's is nice is as in the house java joy. There's a party over here. Party over there has in the dairy and these three geez. You got it at least four seconds before i actually got. Hey aren't you a little short to be a stormtrooper. Well everybody looked short compared to doug and strickland the deletion not as stupid as they are new body could be that stupid driver. Picks the music shotgun shuts his keiko and has to listen to the nice guys on business. Podcast three days a week. They're able to hold it together. This is not one of those days. Welcome to fuck ary with the nice guys not apply no interviews lots of ranting and they sometimes stumbled onto something useful. Go figure now. It's time for a nice guys. Fuck korie with the kings of fuck ary themselves. Doug sandler and stricklin bonner. Now i i was just grabbing. I realized that. I had two minutes left that whole Formal versus informal relationship with time On i'm extremely formal relationship with time. I know exactly what time it is. And if i have like a minute and a half before. We're supposed to start. That's enough time to run and grab a drink. So i did exactly so for. Wow that is that is. Are you hear me okay because you can tell them in a remote studio where i am right now are you can you. Can you see my surroundings. Where are you. I am in my kitchen. But with your boom mic. Is that like a backup boom with your exactly. It's it's backup boom. I just wanted to make sure that my sound quality was good. I was up to a nice guy. Community standards actually excellent. You sound very good. It sounds nice. Can't hear the kitchen. Mike is really itsdecent for seventy bucks. I think actually stole this from you. I think this originally was your microphone. Was because i bought another one. Yeah that's great mike. I have another really good. It's a good back up and it sounds great. It sounds really clear it sounds. It's not as rich as the good old yeti blue but you don't get as much room noise either. So i do appreciate a good microphone. I do appreciate a good kitchen and and let me swivel a little bit to my my laugh. You'll notice that the christmas up in your kitchen since christmas. Yeah not only has been up but it's it's changed. A went to valentine's tree notice the hearts. Well that's really convenient. And then you make it an easter tree. Right in july tree and the halloween tree and thanksgiving tree and then you never have to take it down. Well so as you know We've been examining may potentially the moving so. Jj was. Julia was very hesitant about taking the tree down thinking why am i going to take down twice. I'm going to have to move. And i'm thinking you're not gonna have to take down twice. You still only have to take it down once you should be taking it down right now. If december twenty six the tree should come down. That's the way i feel about it down twice. I'm confused in other words. Like if you didn't find a house until next year i don't know i don't know because the tree the tree normally somewhere around every lake in your mind would is a good like what's a good like grace period. You don't have to take the tree down a week. Maybe two okay and then when do you when do you erect the tree. I know it's personal. Question is your go up. Mattie goes up every that my i like a week or so after thanksgiving maybe all right so if you live in a house for example that your tree goes up a week after thanksgiving you know you give it until maybe a week after christmas and that's kind of realistic and i can kind of you know about a month a month in a week or so six weeks but if you're the one that puts the tree up the day before christmas okay. I'm just saying that. We don't have a formal relationship. I'm jewish guy in the house. So i'm not. There's never any pressure for me to put up the tree. The tree goes up then great but if it doesn't go up it's not my holiday. You know my minority goes up because the lighting happens in. It's not quite as cumbersome and putting together a valentine's apparently okay. So welcome back. Welcome back my name stricken bonner on the other side of the kitchen is mr doug sandler and so why exactly you in the kitchen today and you actually backup boo see. I don't have a backup boom done. Well so when i when. I traveled to baltimore the few times that i did i had my blue yeti and it was on the desktop. And you know the anyone its desktop. It looks good but it doesn't have that that really rich sound because it really helps right on top of the microphone so when i borrowed stole whatever you wanna call this mike from you and i have a desktop. It didn't sound the same. So i just went on ebay And picked up. Think this is only like a fifteen dollar booms day. I can't touch it. It will fall apart. Okay fair enough but but it does a really good job of getting the microphone close enough to my face where i where the sound quality is really good. So i'm in the kitchen tonight. Because i told jj. I was going to record at seven pm. Now we are we at now. Six fifteen and. I discovered that she wasn't going to be finished with her meeting until seven pm. Which would have caused a challenge when it came to dinner because if she's ending a meeting at seven and i'm starting us at seven we ended up talking. You know our half hour goes and our easy sharia always so that would be dinner at eight o'clock and that's just too late you know i'm bedtime is eight thirty for certain so hence oh so that didn't explain really why i'm in the kitchen so i am in the kitchen because i'm so fucking loud and laughing and she makes fun of the way i laugh when i'm with you. She's like i know when you're recording was strictly because you have that the laugh and i'm like that's how i laugh she is. That's not how you laugh when you talk to me. I'm like 'cause you're not funny nice so strictly brings out the laughter in me. So it's a problem if she hears your laughter through the walls in her meeting. Oh my gosh. If she's in its it's obnoxious. I could hear the bleed over myself. i really can't. I would not want to be in the same room as me. We're looking at this At building an extension above the garage. Our in our new house is going to be completely silence. Silence it's going to be like a Almost studio room like floating floor and walls and air pockets between the walls and all that. How did you is that. Is that like studio lingo that you just shared with me exactly. You've got to walk through each one of those for me floating. Laura how the hell do you even do that. Well you basically have to. I mean floating floor. If you're if you're doing a soundproof studio okay. The first thing you do is extra wall like basically do an extra wall because the thing that stops sound more than anything is air gaps. It's basically space right so you build walls inside the walls and you'll even air gap in between and their certain specific types of material. You can put in the gap that will help suck the sound up but if you're really really going full blown you do a floating floor because base. Vibrations will carry through lor and long base waves. It's very hard to squelch them so to speak when they when you get that sort of resin infrequency and so with a floating floor you basically created this a room inside a room. that's completely separated from everything else. But you don't need to go that far. You just need troubles. What are the mechanics behind a floating floor. I'm sensing like almost like an air air hockey table. I don't know it's been a long time. Since i've looked into any studio anything i just know they exist. And that's what the big boys do. And i couldn't tell you the mechanics of it. Okay all right well. I liked the whole floating floor idea so expensive ridiculous expenses so in your new place. Your office isn't far enough away from her office to be able to our podcast. It's about a half acre. And i'm going to be at the far left corner of the lot. There's going to be like a shed in the far corner off of the the backyard. And that's where you're recording Two words tiny house. We're looking into like there's these things called tuft sheds i don't know if they're prebuilt little modular homes that you can get and you can get him. Pretty big is large ten by twenty. Which would be a really good but the problem is that. There's no on the far far corner of the property. There's no there's no electric and there's no plumbing so would actually do that. Okay but what do you need plumbing for. Electric is easy to run at the extension cord out there. You need i. Yeah we want a ghetto it. We would run an extension cord but then we're thinking why don't we have like a multipurpose room where it's not just for a studio. It could actually be like a gasthaus now. Now we're talking. Something really cool and i think it would be really good to have you know plumbing and gas electric and by the time we're done we've added another two hundred grand to the cost of that out sue. Basically you either do a two hundred thousand dollars guesthouse in the backyard or nothing at all. There's no compromise between now there. Is there's a starbucks right down the street fuck panama starbucks. It's actually. It's really nice about about this house. Is that the do you know how like if you were to go. I don't know what your doors are like in your home but most doors in new construction meaning construction. That's probably in the last twenty twenty five years. They're hollow core doors so that it's just like a little flimsy door and if you hit it hard enough you could probably knock your hand. Throw it doors in this home. They are solid wood. Doors really cole. I'm a. I'm excited about the whole idea. And the hallway has a doorway to it also so if i wanted to really bury. I sell underestimate rested house. I could do so. I'm excited about a few things. My ice machine you for a housewarming gift. I know in red. Don't forget it read read read. I really want that in the doors. Which are gonna be really nice and Oh shit so another thing. That was the whole idea of just getting to a remote area. Like oh hi for me is just completely. I'm so excited about the whole move. I did check out my motorcycle sits in my garage. I would say in the last two years. I may have put one hundred miles on my motorcycle. And it's a two thousand and sixteen harley top of the line harley road glide so this thing has got every bell and whistle on it. So i was. I was just look. I got an email from eagle writer. Which is the name of the company that when we went to vegas used to rent with carol. We rented from eagle rider. And they're like list your bike for rent. What yeah no. And look where i am. I'm like I like fifteen minutes from pacific coast highway so far and above malibu so the traffic isn't really bad until you start to get it into like san francisco and stuff which is hours north of me and i'm like i get one hundred and seventy five bucks a day to rent my to rent my motorcycle now if you had if you had a pristine condition motorcycle would you protected and not do anything within hold onto it or would you rent out baby. I mean they have to pay like security deposit. I mean some happened to i mean. Of course there's going to be normal wear and tear but you're going to clean it up before they get it and you check it over when they bring it back and if there's something you're gonna fucking yeah i don't know if you remember but this was going back i must have be ten years ago. Do you remember. We were staying at the hard rock cafe exactly. I know exactly what you're going to say because it's funny i was just thinking about. This story is I was staying in the hard rock. Cafe caroline good buddy of mine. He has a he has a bike to and so every time we went to vegas strip and the guys they would play poker and they'd rent lamborghinis and strict end a and caroline. I we would rent these harleys and go to the you know out to the mountains in vegas and one time. We rented a bike. I rented one. He rented one. We brought him back to the hard rock. We were keeping for multiple days the next morning i go and i'm like something looks a little different about the bike. The saddlebags were stolen from the bike each of those saddlebags. And there's two of them on a harley. Each of the saddlebags is a thousand dollars it was a two thousand dollar loss and and they build me for it. Because i didn't choose the. I never choose to supplemental insurance man. I don't know maybe i should have chosen the supplemental insurance right. I would never do the extra germs. So they found the guys. If you remember. They found the guys but they couldn't match up the saddleback family guys and they found a whole bunch of saddlebags but they couldn't match up the saddle with with bikes because there were so many of them and they didn't know where and i'm like. Are you fucking kidding. me really. They found the guys and they basically said we'd love to return your saddle bags but there are so many of them. We can't figure out which ones are. Actually you're so we're not gonna give you any at all and fuck you well so it was a rental so i was like the third party involved so it was the police. The eagle rider and me and here. I'm trying from twenty five hundred miles away to coordinate the whole fucking thing and i'm like they already had my two grand at that point. They have no incentive to to fix it. So i got fucked but whatever it's fine. It was a long long time ago. So i just remember that story. I was actually so you know i. I don't know if you know this. Are you sitting down in the kitchen with the tree next to me. The hard rock hotel in las vegas is gone. It's the hell. what do you mean it's gone. It is now a virgin hotel wait. They didn't tear it down and rebuild hotel did they. They did not they rebranded it a year ago. I was actually over a year ago. Closed believe december or january last year like a year ago. And you they basically there. They remade it into virgin hotel. And the reason. I was thinking about your saddlebags over the weekend when i was in vegas i went the virgin hotel to check it out to see how it was different from the hard rock and everything and it's it's not the hard rock it's just not it's a sterile version of what used to be the hard raw so a couple of things that come to mind. It's interesting they name a hotel virgin in vegas. That's interesting number. That's morons pretty pretty much an oxymoron. But the second thing is virgin's got like the. i mean. this was a hard hard wood hard grain. Feel really dark hotel. They have do some major. 'cause isn't like the virgin feel like like really bright and airy and and like pink and red and white and hip you know totally all of those things. This is not retro like like hardrock. It's all the hip and cool stuff very very much. So does it look like somebody just came in and puked bottle of red paint in the in the hard rock hotel and they created virgin. Okay i have to say. If i had never been to the hard rock i would walk into urgent and go okay. Yes this is a nice hotel. Okay it's cool There's nothing really majorly special about it. I mean but having been at the hard rock and having that to compare to. I would say just nothing special about it. It's really not that great. Well my favorite hotel by far in vegas. And i think it's probably aging myself at this point i'm not gonna say like la flamingo was like my favorite hotel was Mandalay bay no. There's nothing dated about that. I was gonna say the same thing and you know. Ben and robert are out there right now. I think they're leaving today. Actually they probably have. Today they're staying. Mandalay bay are you. Are you going to visit. Aren't you visit them or did you visit them or are you going to so i was there here. Let me send you picture. I was in vegas last weekend. And one night i got like a rockstar sweet. Just for fun because it was really cheap for the night. I want to hear the piano story. Also you have the piano here. I'll send you the picture. But so i stayed at least yeah. Bally's stated bally's for one night in a rockstar sweet because the price was so good picture of it now so i sent you a picture of the piano in the room already. I think you did. And i forgotten. You said you mentioned ben. And i don't know why that didn't trigger. Oh you got to see ben. I did get to see ben so okay. So here's the piano texting into your right now. Okay the piano stories. So here's the deal. I tool around on the on the caesar's website and realize that i could get like rock star suite twenty five hundred square foot room with like a steam shower. A fucking soaker tob and two bedrooms. This is crazy. This is a great angle too because it's like from at one point of the route looking straight through. You're you're literally looking at about fifteen hundred square feet in this photo right here right exactly and women and that doesn't even show you the piano piano guys. Here's what the piano. Because i sent you the picture without the piano. Here's the same room with the piano anyway. So pool table all that good stuff for like it was very inexpensive for for what you're getting right and so i thought you know just for fun. I'm going to do that. And so i get it and then i hear from ben and ben and robert are going. This was sunday night. We stayed there. And i find out from ben. They're coming into town sunday night. I was leaving monday. I like dude. We gotta hang out right. So we get into our rock star suite at bally's and akeso. Here's a really cool thing to twenty six four right and so it's like top floor of the hotel. We go the floor and we walk out and it was like a long hallway of the elevators. And there's like cordoned off Not open like what we look at. It's like ballrooms right. So i guess the twenty sixth conference rooms and ballrooms and stuff. So you look either way and it's like it's just ballrooms. I'm like where the fuck is our reu right. Well if you look straight ahead there's like this. There's a door. It was huge double glass like it just looked like i don't know what it looked like and i noticed there's a little circle like you're you tap your room key so i tabbed my rookie and these these florida. Ceiling was huge frosted glass that are like ten feet square. Yeah you tap your card and the fucking open up right as you're tapping the glass. Are you thinking who else has tapped third glass onto this. How many other people. How many rockstars. Literal rockstars have stayed in. That hotel room. Interesting hadn't thought about that. But yes. I'm quite sure there's a lotta so we tapped the glass. It opens up. Glass rained down the hallway. And they're like. I think six of these suites right. So it's just like one. This is the hallway that opens up to the suites. This wasn't the door to the sweet correct correct. Yeah got it. So the the whole twenty sixth floor was not my sweet plus ballrooms and shit right. It was a hallway of sweet. And it's like six so it's basically the floor is a couple of conference rooms like ballrooms and six suites monster sweet. So like okay. Let's go right so as soon as we go through the glass door. I'm like i look over to the right or the left. And i'm like piano like it's just there because it's like an open area at the beginning of the hallway like okay like if you're really special they have a player playing for when you're coming and going from you're probably right so go to the room monster room big double doors and you know it's really cool and ban is a piano player right so i i was like no. It would be really cool if we're gonna piano in here. You know ben could play. And she's like she was like we. Yeah but what are we gonna do. There's piano and like well. There's one in the hallway. What are you gonna do. Just roll it in to steal the piano and how does even get through the door. So i was thinking the same thing so funny you should ask. I was thinking the same thing. So as we're heading out to go to lunch or something. I don't remember we're walking out. I look at the piano again. And of course i notice it's on wheels. I saw the wheels. But i still doesn't. It still doesn't help me with the with so there's a piano and i'm figuring okay. It's on wheels because if they've got conference rooms i'm sure sometimes they do cocktail hour. They'll just wheel it into one of the conference rooms right right and as as we're going through the glass doors i'm like hey you know casinos really well you live in vegas. Are there cameras in the hallways of the hotel. Got other cameras everywhere. But whole and she's like no no they can't do so no cameras no cameras in the hallways of the and she's like no no okay. He's like why do you ask nouri no reason so we go out with you like hanging out right around. This reminds me of when you and me went and did a nice guys on business. Takeover of the national speakers association meeting on a. You should mention that because it's kind of a similar situation so so we get back to the room and learning app. And i decided to go do some gambling or something and i walk down the hallway and i'm like it is on wheels by the way before before i left the room. I was thinking the same thing i'm like. How the hell am. I gonna get this in the room well. The room has double doors over. The hallway is wide enough to roll a piano down and the door to the room is low is wide enough that you can open up both doors. Oh okay all right one of these with a with a door where another door and it opens the door and like you don't even think about the other door kind of locked from the side. There's no reason to open it but it's there so yes. There's a double door of the room. And i get to pierre and i'm thinking to myself wonder how hard it would be for me to push this pianist. Can i do this myself. And so i can locking the wheels. Yeah i unlock the wheels on. I stuck. I'm like this is easy right and i kind of look around and there's nobody there and there's no cameras on like i could push so pushed down the hall and unlock the door and roller right into the room. It was a piece of gave me like five minutes so no rental either. I was asking forgiveness a center permission. Yes no i totally understand. That's how we pulled it off at. Nsa i'd much rather take over the courtroom and put a little little backdrop up and make it seem like we're supposed to be here exactly exactly. So yeah ben came in and he plays the piano while we were all hanging out. And i saw robert again. We hadn't and see three years is really foam. That's cool what's going on with rob. I have not seen him in forever. It's been at least a year since i've seen it had been three years since i've seen him. So he's credible he he and ben are both on diets right. That's a lifetime achievement award for that those on diets so they basically decided they went to dinner earlier. And they're like yeah. We're eating fish. You know not not bad shit but like straight vodka three doubles like well because you know there's no carbs involved so what's the deal with. Bring me up to date with the agency just in terms of business and what they have. They pivoted at all. Have they had a chance to do anything. That would be covid da direction. What's going on so robert. Who is the drummer for the flagship. And onyx they haven't played since september. Now you understand for listening public here This band played fifty sixty seventy thousand a year. I mean they play every weekend but only since one thousand nine hundred so right so only thirty five years or so and so they start playing again in may like apparently booked every weekend in may. It's starting to come back. But not till i mean. It's april now but not till next month basically. I wonder how everybody fared through this entire frigging nightmare of an ordeal. No fucking idea. I'm just so then. I got out in time. That's what i send you the other day when we're talking about how good turnkey is doing right now. And i'm like yeah. This kind of beats doing bar mitzvahs really really. Does you know when you texted that back to me. I hadn't linked it in with the fact that cova was happening. And that normally you might actually have mitzvahs and you don't have any anymore but that's a really nice extra bonus. Well you know what was really nice is. I was standing at the edge of the cliff and cova just pushed me over so i need i need things i need decisions made for me. I'm not a really good decision makers so stuff like that happens. I'm like really ultra happy. Not happy that that's something that tragic is going on in the world but it was like that is a really hard decision to make. Oh well it was just made very easy for me to make the decision. I'm not going to be doing. Any party is because the entire world is shut down. You gotta see the sort of lining things right you got to get to. So we have not hardwired like your your internet's cutting i. Now i know no. I'm not hardwired where i am Check my speed right now. I don't do that. Lets you watch seeing my screen now. Because i screen and i remembered actually share sound this time to own my god. Yes so strickland showing up upload and download speed and right now i'm only seven hundred sixty megabits per second right. Yeah shake the upload versus download. Its reach that. That's your upload speed right this seven sixty. I think that's the average because it's gonna look at other so upload seven eighty download no no. I'm sorry up. what does it nine. Forty download six twenty with fuck. This is. I do love this this internet ever in my new home. Whatever internet speed that you have. I have got to have it as well. Because it's the best thing ever you know i i before we get in one of the things. There's two things that have to be done number one we have to paint and secondly we have to hard wire every every room for internet. Because i'm not. I'm not doing wi fi. I mean we can use wifi for guests and for our cell phones and stuff but there's no reason to do wi fi anywhere else where it a frigging desk. We may as well keep it. And that's the other thing my My tuff shed would have to be hard wired for internet. Okay you can do that. Just really cat five cable. I think you're all good. They can really long way and still hold all right all right so it looks like we have a voice mail. We do have a voicemail are you. are you ready. I'm going to play the music. I can't guarantee it's from jared. But i can't imagine my call. I guess we'll find out all right. Let's do it okay to midgets like you saw a screwed up there yet. So i think i don't know if this is from jared or not but i'm thinking maybe we should ask the magic eight ball if messages for jerry before. We actually listened to him. It's a great idea when you when you're playing the voicemail the The vocal voicemail was a little low. So if you could impose production maybe boost set up a little bit. You having listened to them. I smell you. Don't know that it's i'm sorry. The theme song. Sorry oh thank you okay. All right i'm right. So the magic eight ball. We have a question for the of the magic eight balls. Are one voicemail. This week is the voicemail from jared Well actually i think even a couple of mental midgets like you guys can handle that one. So yeah sure. Yeah yeah it's gotta be okay. Let's find out if the ball is correct as we listen to the smell asia here here of course to today's episode And waiting after you get through all the trip planning strict you started telling me all the instructions of how to get from ohi Tha vegas oh right. More specific treasure. I this has been travel. Update interactions with circling. Have some kind of dropping. There's just for random shit. Like that. And i also wanted to say that You know if anybody's offended after. I mean been listening for an hour yet. There's nobody listening except people like man. Yeah good luck enemy x. lusaka's okay. Now there's only one problem with voicemail. So jared end made the comment about hey like i guess one of us said hey. I hope this doesn't offend anybody. I don't fuck remember week. I don't remember it. You know his your your voicemail structure. Jared is usually so good. It's it's we get the we get the explanation of the reminder of whatever it was we were talking about we praise then we get the cut down and then we get more praise We just didn't get the explanation that time. Yeah see there. There's a there's the anatomy of the voicemail right very important. You central had carefully. Yeah yeah you know. I had a guest on the show today And when i was interviewing her she actually made a couple of references to the show. And i said you are a sounds like you are a listener of the show. And she was like i binged listened when i knew i was coming on the show. I bins listen. She said i listened to eight episodes at first and then every time i get in my car or wherever i i got about a half hour. I'm listening to unlisted the you guys just banter back and forth. So i said so. In spite of strickland in our banter you still came amid still came on the show she. She plays the violin on the show. I think it'd be an episode. Yeah she's actually she's actually kind of good. I mean she's not concert quality but she is. Certainly i mean she she could pass the shoot past the stink test if she let's say was in a Like in Interrogation and somebody said okay. You have to play cannon. what's it so you gotta play canon in d. That's exactly what she played on the show. I'm like oh that's pretty cool. So who is a stephanie stephanie. She her episode airs. Yup sevenish shallow airs in just in. Just actually it'll be the next episode will be airing and she sponsored the show. Wait a minute yeah. I am an edited et. She i just dropped it in there today. Excellent and you put the date in as well. Okay thank you. Put the date in as well and i even left the a couple of notes. I told you what i want you to do. I had a commercial. I put a commercial in there and everything sounds good now. I know it's not too complicated. It really isn't complicated. Just follow my instructions and then ignore them and do what you wanna do anyway. Okay i can do that at some of these nice guys businesses. Coming up now. We have a couple of choices because we're right now. We're really at the at the precipice and make a decision on what we should be doing. We either continue forging forward in the episode or we halt the episode right here and actually stick to a ballot. Thirty minute episode. When was the last time we get a thirty minute episode. I don't recall in the last probably six months that we have. I know me neither. Are we going to try to get back to that. I don't really care. I mean. I don't have anything to talk about but that hasn't stopped me talking for the last thirty minutes. Well you did have something that you were bringing up at the end of last episode and of course. I don't remember what it was but it was either about what we need to go back and listen to the less now. It's okay. I mean we can. We can call it right here. I think i think our fans actually would be kind of happy seriously. Though you remember that. I brought something up to bring up next did you said hey. We're an hour in and we're not going to start it now and then we either started it and finished it or we didn't bring it up at all so okay. So here's a great shoutout to our listeners. Okay whatever it was last week that at the end of the episode. I said hey. Let's talk about it next week. If you all want to hear it fucking costs forty to forty two thousand and leave us a voice message. Jared or anybody else that wants to but if one or stephanie or seventy if it's not something you want to actually hear me a spouse on whatever that is just don't fucking 'cause we won't remember totally make sense totally makes sense all right. Well why don't we. I say we just wrap it here. I mean i really think we had a nice full show full show without you go and then you go a little further and then you just kind of little nauseous especially fine line between stupid and clever. Yeah yeah it's such a fine line all right. So let's let's wrap here. We'll come back next week. We got lots more topics that we have no idea what we're going to talk about. Iraq did you know that when i first sang in black tie We had one male vocalist and he couldn't wrap so. I'm going to give you a list of songs that i used to sing in black tie when we first started hold on. I think i misunderstood what you said. you had a you had a white guy or a black guy couldn't wrap does it matter. Are we going to get racist. You didn't you. I thought you just said we had a white guy or a black guy. And i was confused because no you say i am the band. We had one male vocalist and he couldn't take sorry. I was not heading down a racist path. I just thought. I heard you say something. And i wasn't a hundred percent. Sure so maybe i should just said. Could you repeat that. But it said i put my foot in my mouth. Okay so the question was okay. What's the band. And he was great singer but he couldn't. He was just comfortable rap. No god no. No way chris everything okay so so. You're the one that had to route. You wanna hear a list of the songs that i'm gonna go. I'm gonna go that you'd probably had to wrap that part and beyonce as crazy in love. That was probably something you had to do. Interestingly enough that song came out. After i had chris in the band. So you gotta think about five to ten years earlier than that. Oh geez all right. So what year was that. Was that like two thousand abandoned ninety seven ninety three ninety three. I don't even know what salt what songs a wedding band would sing that. Have wrapped in them other than a jay z song okay back in the ninety s and early two thousands. There were certain songs that were ridiculously popular that we're just wrap solves dj in the nineties. This is well beyond the era of randoms delight. Oh shit like that could be a world of anything. I have no idea i really don't get. Can you give me an artist tag team. A one hit wonder. Come on dude. You're you're better than this. Dj team back again. That's that's noise is as in the house. I'm java joy. There's a party over here. Party over there has on the issue. Daria these words who geez you got it at least four seconds before i actually not god okay. First of all i have not been behind turntables in probably about a year. But it's probably been about ten years if not fifteen since i even played that song so so you were good at that one while you saying that. I'm not saying. I was good at any of them but i did sing them. Warm there it is okay. Another mc hammer can't touch this. Of course okay. Marky mark good vibrations vibrations. All right see now. I wanna roll. Was the other one knows another big wine so you would sing. Background track under good vibrations that that deep below where the where your chorus or your backup singers saying he got to. They were seeing that as you were doing the background stuff. Yeah i'm trying to remember that. Don don don bob. I'm trying to remember the earth won't there it. is i remember the verse. How does that one go. Oh yeah everybody dance now. That was a great song. We never did love that one. I never had to route that. That's a great song. Cnc music factory man. Oh man but anyway. Yes so i used to do those in fact you know what's funny. I just recently. I sent. I've got like vhs copies of my promo videos like from black-tie we used to do them every couple of years right and so i've got all my promo videos back to ninety three ninety four. Whatever i recently sent them off to legacybox dot com. This is not a an ad for or endorsement box com. Yes up eat. Sleep drink dubai. Do they just emailed me and said there on the ray back now. I thought i'd ordered digital copies. Where they would just need to share a link with me but maybe i ordered a thumb drive or something. I don't know they say it's been shipped. These are videos. I mean early on okay. I don't know if you've ever watched are pro videos. But the last two or three wasn't really focus. The old guy. We've got three singers. And they were great so you see me in the videos but the early videos. I sang at least three or four songs in each of those videos. So i can't wait to see him again. It's going to be the What's the probability or the chances that you would actually upload. Those two are nice guys group. I watch him. I but yeah. There's a good chance i would do. I have no problem with myself. I know that. I know that really totally down. Yeah i probably will most likely will upload them so people can laugh but you gotta be a member of the nice guys community if you are not going to nice shortcut dot com and just answer three simple questions. Are you a listener of the nice guys or the nice guys. Fuck in other words. Steelers into the interviews or the friday shows Second thing is are you a heroin addict and the third thing is are you a communist. I just let anybody the group lately. I think i just let somebody in a day or two ago and the answers to the questions. Where like are you a communist. Hell no no no for the heroine addict and absolutely a fan of Of the nice guys on business or whatever that third question was you know what i think we need to go make fun of whoever's new member of the nice guys on business and book page and then wrap it up. Okay well. why don't you share your screen. So we can see it so we can see it together. I can do that. Look it up now facebook. I'm just never on fucking facebook. So do i go to Like just search. Facebook nice guys. Nice guys community. Yeah the nice guys community. Okay here we go. Ooh nice community. Dan rice my goddamn haven't seen in. How have seen dan in forever. Steve o'brien shared a post voice over also did a great conversation with tracy lindley on how to effectively network on lincoln with their free free service. Nice oh tim. Hello to that pose. That was a great post. If you're not a part of the nice guy community you really need to to join. If for nothing other than the humorous banter back and forth between tim. Tim is actually i think. Between tim and jared they are the ba- the mayors of the guys muny board. So look look. Click on the members. Tab okay members Rated shop there you go and then we sort by most recent or something we have. Oh we have new members one new member this week. Say he looks tough. Michael j. man monroe mansfield man. I guess he is a man revealed. Okay michael No new posts would see what we can. Michael kyw tough. i mean. he's a good looking guy man he looks all mean are you. Are you feeling like this is a little. Maybe like not a real account. Because when i look at michael it's michael with the l. Strange spelling and that's okay. I'm good with strange. But then the last name is capital. J. dash men revealed and the is not capitalized. So an r. e. e. a. Led michael j. dash man revealed. It's gonna word. And when i click on his profile says group badges new member. I'm guessing new member of facebook. I think we're i think we've been hoodwinked. And who said it was okay for him to jain. I did. I did. But i did block. Several people look who. I've watched i see that. Let's see all the blocked members beatrice hulan. Colette smith kielland silver moon raven hair. She's cute though Kimball so we got a few people that are blocked now. Why don't you of them say unblock like i ain't an option to unblock i don't know click on the click not be unblocked but click on the name. Okay that's where why could we unblock to. Okay staten island. You know alicia alicia looks like a real regular person was it. What was the problem. Maybe there was some spamming issue going on in the in the group. I'm not one hundred percent. Sure i don't know we could unblock curry. Gas person strickland. I think we're i think there was probably a reason why she was blocked. And i think we're playing with fire was unlocked. Unblock somebody i mean. She's got so her. Yeah she's got black lives matter and and she's got her her her rainbow and she's got a lot of supportive. Things looks like for like lgbtq people and she looks like a real regular normal person know but could she be somebody that was spamming in the group is at possible. And you know. I although locked her for that because i'm just never in here so i wouldn't be unblocked. No don't do it. Don't do what source thing that can happen. She starts spamming the twelve people who are ever in here. Do you need to do this. We've we've really done such a great job of keeping this as as a nice nice tight anti-spam room. And i'm thinking that that was probably the reason why because that would be the only reason other than making like like Ugly comments or being mean to somebody else The only thing. I would have blocked somebody for is because they were. They were spamming. But what you're saying is you. Don't remember actually blocking her. I don't i don't okay so somebody else may have blocked her or we know. I think it's only you me or dan. Because you think danny been around a while yet so you know what are a block campbell if you are listening right p. Be nice okay. Because it's my name on the line here. Now doug's gonna i was gonna give me tons of i'll never looked down rusting you if you're listening campbell to to not do any of that shit so are you look at that. It's a warning. Are you sure you want to remove the block on campbell. Doug doesn't think it doesn't actually say doug well okay. So you're responsible for her strickland. You're on double secret probation. Right now. Campbell. i'm just letting you know they on blocked. let's look at the other one beatrice soul and they see this one looks a little. Yeah sketch yeah able like. Every picture is kinda kinda sexy and her. Latest post was january ninth so that was like three months ago. And it's in arabic so like no like yeah. I'm ok keeping her blocked. I'm good with that. Like every picture is like trying to be sexy and tiktok and shit like that somebody like that would listen to us exactly okay with that. But but you know yeah. I don't know why the other ones don't give you an option. Run block so weird right like the other ones. Just i see it like of course. What am i going to click on the cute ones qelia silverman raven hair. You know what. I bet it is like. I'm clicking on it and it's not going to her i don't even exist. Yeah they probably don't exist at all. 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And rachel doesn't even make any sense number two game of fucker That was a close one because that really hits home and number one one and a half men are right top. Three reasons is steve. Brian will not visit the nice guys on business. Number three nonstop tick talking during ellen. Come on the woman is a national treasure. Shut the fuck up number two. I have demand splaine everything to these fucking morons and number one. The role goes over. Not under over. I don't care if you have a cat over a Sorry the shows running a little long. We had to take a few avocado toast. Breaks for doug.

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Mason and Ireland [HR 2]

Mason & Ireland

47:56 min | 1 year ago

Mason and Ireland [HR 2]

"Mason Ireland Brian. Kinski Ramona Shelbert. And now Brian Windhorst kind enough to stop by. We just saw him on TV and now he's here like magic now. I heard we're talking about Liz. Oh yeah so I thought we would have an ally in this one is lame like we are in a safe assumption and but was always spectacular. How many times do you see celebrities at At a Laker game happens all the time. I never bother them. Only when like they're big fans will say something to you. If I was at the Lakers game the other night I might violated. It really goes on a Selfie. I don't I wouldn't do that. That's kind of like a violation. Yeah but I may have gone up just to tell her how much of a fan I was of her. How she's spectacular show? We're so old old. I don't know if it's that we're old. I think it's more that I just have a little baby and I don't have time to like no band but I I hear I heard the song I like. Oh yeah I know that one. But she's got that several grades. Yeah don't just stop with that. Yeah Okay Yeah. I told her Brian to Google Liz those tiny desk concert and watch it. And she'll have avenue shelf twelve minutes she can hear three songs and that'll be that by the way. The only way that this conversation could make me seem less cool as when Brian so you know the tiny desk series on NPR. And we want to say. No I don't know like I do and I'm definitely not definitely not on the cutting edge of pop culture but no liz is always the bomb. Well you Brian. Lizardo is the bomb really does also not on the cutting edge of pop culture referring to people as the ball gigante. Yeah forgetting that thank you I love it. Thank you Brian you're on. They're talking about Kevin. Love is that was a big topic of the day. Is We think. I think it's GonNa be really hard from betray him I really yeah because It's not about Kevin. Love the player so much. He's got three years ninety million dollars now. If you think about that Chris Paul Trade you know. Think about that. Kevin's contract is longer for less money. Yeah but it's longer okay. So in Chris Paul's trade it was. It was a talent swap for him Westbrook. Yeah the the the rockets had to incentivize with two first round picks and that wasn't just for West Wenchang part of it was you got to take on this contract so like are there teams that want Kevin Love Yes with the cavs interested in trading him. Yes can there be in agreement of like what his prices because I've talked to some teams and they're like we'd love to have Kevin Love but the cats are going to have to give us a little something to take on this money and just stay. Stay doing them a favor by taking on the ninety million and talk to the cabinet but Kevin Love is an all star who is going to be terrific. Ps Championship experience. He can shoot. He can rebound he's available play and they're like yeah. We agree but not with so actually I actually go the other way on this free agent class coming up is one the worst free agent classes that we've pretty much seen like go ahead and book your vacation for diverse. What are we talking about? Anthony Davis resigning which should happen happen in short order But there's there's not much out there so one of the best guys you go get Kevin Love and he's on even though there's a lot of money on Adio it's not unmanageable. The last year the deal he'll be thirty four years old making twenty eight million okay with that but like I a lot. There's a good chance of thirty. Four year old Kevin Love plays thirty four games so the issue like for example. Some people have rightly said boy. Wouldn't it be great for the Miami. Ame Heat Yeah. It'd be great for the heat but the heat are protecting cap space for two thousand twenty one and there because there there have big dreams for then there's no way they're taking on salary for that period So people will say well but Boston Celtics. What are the Celtics trading to get? Kevin love he makes thirty million. So that means you have to come up with twenty some odd million dollars in swap money. What are they going to trade to the cavs? They're not trading Marcus smart form. That doesn't really help them so I just I would never say never in the NBA. I think it's going to be really hard for the. I actually think that what's what's more likely if the CATS WANNA make a deal now now they say we don't WanNa make a deal now. We'll wait. We have him under contract three years. We'll wait. I think the cavs would have to sweeten the pot and maybe add Tristan Thompson to the deal. You know that was entered a sweetener. It's pretty useful. He's on the last year of his contract or maybe one of their young players. Maybe Jedi Osmond maybe Colin Sex. Then what's the point of Cleveland will open up cap space by bit your Cleveland. What what are you opening it for what you have to add incentive? It'd get rid of a guy like Kevin Love. What's the point? Exactly that's why he's going to be a trait anytime soon because the cat would not do a deal like that the Catholic we have this guy. He's an asset. I'm just saying fundamentally take Kevin Love the player away don't evaluate Kevin. Love's the player who by the way is not has not playing well right now I two weeks great not not a good time to train him anyway. But let's just take that away from other teams and you can debate me on this if you'd like but I'm just telling you this is what they tell me. Other teams see Kevin Love as toxic asset because of the contract not because because the player the cavs as an asset asset. We have a general misunderstanding. Here we have a failure so the other so if loves not moving and and you know the I know there's a lot of talk about what eventually will happen with Andrei Dala and you'll have a lot of teams that are trying to simultaneous stock. My Miami Miami's third in the Eastern Conference right now trying to win better. I think better position to win than they thought. But also protecting cap space. And everybody's kind of doing that of saint who who moves. How much different? The League look after the trade deadline than it does now. I don't I'm not sensing I know that we keep talking about December fifteenth. I think we're talking about it because we haven't seen a trade since July ally and it's so unusual I'm not sensing as my fingers on the market right now. I'm not sensing a huge tidal wave moves we've just been through a period in the NBA. Hey where we've seen incredible free agency. Maneuvering incredible trades. I suspect we could have some quiet for a little while. But you know things change every day. That's good for the Lakers. Because they're already for these teams so if they could just add this this or whatever. Well the Lakers don't hack don't have they don't have the ability to make a lot of trades so the it's harder for everyone else to probably helps them. The only thing that the Lakers could do if they got to the point where they felt like coups was with somebody they wanted to trade. Then then that's a real asset that people would want but again he's on his rookie contract doesn't make that much money. So like let's say for example that the that the that they found the trade here they found a player they they they they wanted to take like. They couldn't trade COUPO- frequently. I mean not not that I'm saying they would do that or they literally can literally saw possible. Like even if the Lakers even if the grizzlies were like let's trade Andre to the Lakers. There isn't a trade that the Lakers could assemble to mean unlikely. I mean they could trade Danny Green but why would they do that so it would. Just be as you something like seventeen million so kudos like two point one. Yeah I'm I'm of the opinion that IGGY will be with the Memphis Grizzlies until the very last moment. Yes yes absolutely I. Why would you do any different? If you'RE MEMPHIS there's no reason to to cut him and they haven't done that and and I think they're insisted that they're not gonna just do a buyout. They're not GonNa just let him go running the Memphis because you do the same thing. So why why would you tell everybody that. You don't have to give something until you actually don't have to give them a market for him but I think the money makes it hard. Yeah I I have. I've said Dallas. I think Dallas is mark. They have Courtney Lee who is not a part of the rotation who makes thirteen million dollars. Susan expiring contract they could Trade Courtney Lee and a second round pick for Andre Iguodala too and you could basically get Andre Iguodala for renting or you can rent them for a second round pick now the mavericks have said not. Now we're not doing that but I'm just kidding another that you don't say until you have to do it because you don't sit there and tell your team you listen Caspian Los Angeles that part. You can tell your team but you don't want to tell your team like guys. We really think we have a whole here that we need to fill. That's right over achieve. I'm just saying that's a team that could try. That has a piece that could that could trade for and by the way the price frequent Allah might end up being a single second round pick. I mean you have to have the money salary match. But I mean if you're the grizzlies would you rather have a single second round pick or cut them for nothing you've got to have the second second round. Pick for ticket right so be like two picks for him and let me. I know that sounds like why would you hold out that long for a second round. Pick because that's what you do peoples against the same. The thing is as you know because Laker fan say this all the time. Don't they want the goodwill if you let them go you know all this goodwill the goodwill is useless in memphis goodwill buys you nothing. If you'RE A memphis it doesn't buy you anything with Andrea Della was it doesn't buy you anything without a raw but also like the you the boost in your reputation around doesn't matter free agents can happen so so you do this the the best way that you can Bryant you you've you obviously have a lot of experience around these different setups. Lebron has had with his teams. And we were we. Were talking about this. This twenty one and three. We've never seen this kind of quiet around a great Lakers first team. Certainly since I've moved away. It's like downright boring. Yeah so this is a very unusual scenario for Lebron in that his team is over. Achieving in December. Yeah I mean the only other time I can think of. It was the first time he was on a really good Cleveland team where they won sixty six games. That was when when they had no Williams Dante West. You know good players of Ben Walls. I think was on that team. It's good players but not nobody looked at them and said Oh my God they're gonNa Win Sixty six games games and they came blitzing out something like sixteen four something but even they were not as good as the Lakers. Generally early Lebron's career. His teams have been underwhelming coming out of the gate. So it's very unusual. You get to December with Lebron team is. Everything's a OK. It certainly was never the case in Cleveland teams. Were never a okay in December. The Miami teams the after they won the first championship they kind of were a little sluggish and they went on the on the whatever. Twenty seven seven game win streak but this is very unusual for him. This entire season is unusual. How much does the dynamic with Davis matter relative to the others Davis Davis Lebron? Since it's been going on as advertised like this is you know a it's on NBC. It's a and a like he there he needs to make sure. Anthony Davis is comfortable. Here wants to play with him because he needs them to stay. How much does that dynamic versus the other superstar dynamics cities had whether it's Kyri and Kevin Love Bausch weighed wait? How much does that matter for this? Let's a great point you know. He needs Anthony Davis really bad. He you know the other guys. He wasn't as dependent on. But you know he gave this interview to Dave mcmanamon. mcmanamon where he was you know he was talking about an APP that he's now associated with them talking about the mental changes he made after two thousand eleven when he essentially choked in the in the in the finals finals. I think the the changes he's made to gain mentally this year have been very drastic drastic. Two thousand eleven. But when you think of this is a guy who got into the habit habit of easing into the season. Because he had to prepare his mind and body for May and June he was always the guy who was got the more. Oh shots was the center of the offense and he hadn't been a point guard for other than a handful possessions here or there since he was a rookie he comes in. The season is completely flipped his intensity level the first two months to me is march and April. Typically marching cap has been safe. Yeah okay so that's completely backwards. What he did and he did that? Because he knew the Lakers in the the western conference couldn't be sluggish secondly he's come out with a mindset of getting somebody else because right off. The Bat is biggest issue. Coming out of the gate was. Let's see if we can get. Anthony Davis the ball too much. He was sort of forced feeding it so to come into the season where he's like. I'M GONNA play top line. Top speed speed right from the start and I'm going to be an assist man not the finishing man completely different than the way he's operated for most less decade. Do you feel like he's going to want some credit for that. It's it's a point. I think Lebron would like credit. I don't think it ever something that he is to have because he knows knows he's done all this we also who knows it's coming like he's getting people are talking about him. We washed tweet right. That was that many people saying that. I mean that's what I was. Ah I was just waiting for the passive aggressive twitter runs. It is true that people wondered whether Lebron was declining whether that last year was the beginning of something with the injury. I think that's a fair I was looking for an actual like if it's possible have bad twenty eight eight and eight season like he kinda into did Like that he wouldn't be able to play defense. Couldn't crank it up all that stuff that's stuff people said when you're Lebron James when you're Kevin durant where you're what you here is like when somebody says you might be the sixth best player in the NBA. Now instead of the best. You hear you think I suck right. You think I'm washed and so in their brain. Yeah I I think Lebron heard wash king and it made him you can tell over the summer made him the stuff that Griffin was saying out of the trade about you know was commitment to defense or all alleged. That's true defense has been suspect one hundred bad at worst but it took them off in the summer and like this year. He's been great like he had. Anthony are pushing each other that side of the ball. I thought it was so important. That right out of the gate Anthony. Can you know really challenged Lebron into better defensively and keep in mind like. I'm not expecting him to make the all defensive team. Okay like I know that was something that he said. He doesn't have to make the all defensive team him. He just can't be a negative on defense which have those videos anywhere or spot shadowy hypnotic. That's right that's which was happening a lot little pointing the defense over there. But that's when you expect that because he's thirty almost thirty five years old. I mean Kobe the last few years were. Kobe made the all defensive team he shouldn't shouldn't of that was a lot going on there too. Because these guys are carrying so much burden offensively but I mean. His miniature down. Like the Lakers aren't doing anything right now. To get out to this lead in the western conference where you go that is insane like okay. Yeah they're twenty one and three but Lebron's playing thirty nine minutes. A night and Davis is shooting twenty nine times. None of that is that they're not what they're doing is you. Don't look at what they're doing and say it's unsustainable. I don't think so like I remember when they were about. Maybe nine and two I was talking to some Laker officials and I was like you know I'm a little worried about your three point shooting because they were like twenty seventh or twenty six and So even in that way they didn't even shoot the ball that gray now since then they rounded into form really well and now suddenly three point shooting is really robust and all it needs to be as okay because at that period of time. We're talking about Brian. Like fifteen games in the season when they're twenty something in three point shooting. There were still second in the League in field. Goal percentage right so they were so good every award nine and two and third in the league. Three point percentage going there no way that's keep up the inverse and also their defensive ability like again you watch watch him play defense they play together. There will be times this season. I feel like we'll be sitting here February in blackboard. What happened to that Lakers December? But when you watch them play they have a system you know. It's not like Frank Vogel. You can like see what Frank Vogel had done and you know. I don't know that'll carry over over but it it does. I don't look at it and say that's not going to work. But you know the the gear is there and then the we've kind of forgotten in l.. A. Like what champion. How Championship teams do this? They don't do what they did that. Friday night against Miami where they held Miami to eighty five points which is absurd in any Arab. Certainly this one like that's not how they knew who I was impressed with when they shut Washington down. Yeah no now you may say well. They're the one of the worst teams in the late. One of the greatest offensive teams in league history. Sorry and the and they were coming they were coming back off the road which is historically APP and by the way on that road trip they will shake on defense. That was their first long road trip and I was. I was like boy the other kind of shaky defense. They came in and just shut Washington straight down and when they clearly know they can do that but now they know they can outscore teams to even sometimes sometimes just went outscore team and championship. Teams will do that tonight. Defense is harder it takes a lot more effort and a lot more work. But let's just go ahead and hang one hundred forty on a team and win by fifteen that way. Yeah well we. We're talking to Frank Vogel Up to the last game and I was a little embarrassed with. All of our questions are like. Hey Frank. Did you know that this team was this. Also this soon right like are they going to jail this quickly and and he goes well. I tried to yell at them because they gave seven hundred. Twenty five points like that's about that's about the closest he can comedies getting mad at me and we asked you fail. These Franks thinks he didn't he was like and we heard him are you. You're a very busy person Do you have to leave now right now. The team's town all right. Yeah all right Brian. The Wind Horse is GonNa stay. Hey Guys I've made it. You know this because you came to my house recently After years and years overhearing Mason in Ireland talk about Mir audio and visit video in Westwood. Would I finally get to read my own spot Very happy to report that for real but they say is true. They run the best. They run the best audio visual company in the land. I I wouldn't call. It is like I said Isaac I my TV suck everything sucks. I can't believe I live like this. Come help me. And they said a whole crew out here upgraded everywhere. Everything everything was Danny. What are you playing on that side? No no no no what maybe shark over and over and the fifteen minute version of baby charts. I didn't know there were seventy versus but when you watch. TV in Germany. When I was there but it sounded look great? I understand what they were saying. He loves it he just sits there and watches it like transfixed by this TV favourite and give is GONNA call three ten to three four four zero ten three ten to three or four four zero one zero or go check out the incredible showroom twenty forty Westwood Boulevard in between Olympic and Santa Monica in Westwood Mirror audion view video at the official audio and video. Retailer of the Los Endless Lakers look. I did make it Brian those awesome. Oh Ramona Shelburne has been rolling around with her filthy child with Germs uh-huh and things and she was. You're a trooper there for the first hour. Nobody can tell you were sick. Yeah it's starting to come. It's also a cold. A here's the thing where your noses your breath. It's hard but you're doing it. I can't I can't believe but by sound is terrible. You sound like you're off here. All right that's okay. I mean you're doing it. Yeah I'm pro. Yeah I'm just saying and this is over here. I'm not getting my germs. Anybody making some infecting long. Yes spray it. I don't get offended but I feel like you're kind of immune 'cause like your son always bring some everything daycare now. I I've gotten yet. I haven't gotten sick yet this winter. Knock on you have like a system when I used to teach kindergarten kindergarten kindergarten I would get sick at the beginning of the year every year. Yeah and then I was bulletproof. Ya like you could have sent me into a hot zone anywhere on earth and I would have been fine right like everybody else. Got The ebola not me but like but once a year because you're around twenty two five year olds he would just be the worst thing but then that was a great Children are filthy and they ruined everything. Brian Windhorst joining us. Brian Ramona Shelbert in for John. And Steve Steve on his vacation occasion And of course the Lakers are out of town. So this is just. It's just a fascinating time to be a Lakers fan. It as you have this Lebron James. Anthony Davis dynamic is different than anything. We've ever had only GonNa get more fun you know. Yes as the months go. I mean I know Lakers his fans have this great history. But it's been a long time since they've been pressure and may the pressure and may amazing. I know everybody remembers it. But it'll be I think we sort of remember what that sound have you ever seen a franchise have a summer like the Lakers did. And then it's like completely forgotten. See the Lakers history. There's too many amazing moments to give this appropriate recognition but but the lottery day one of the biggest moments in the last fifteen years. Well okay one was. The one was look assault. Trade status. Date doesn't okay. So between two thousand isn't eight. That's eleven years Yeah Okay Lebron signing. That was pretty damn big That lottery day changed everything. Because not only did the Lakers acres get vastly improved asset vastly improved but the fact that the PELICANS got the number one pick and it made it okay for them to do a the Lakers Okay for them to trade. Anthony Davis in that type of deal the combination of those two things now rob Pelinka had a really solid plan after finding out about a he did a really nice job there. I don't overlook that but that lottery night was a huge Ramon and I were in Golden State at the Western Conference finals. Game One game two. I can't remember which Ramona I won't say who. She was texting but when when they went to break and it was those four teams in there. There was remote phone. was lighten up through his stuff going on all phones. Yeah that that was a huge moment. That was a huge moment for this team. You mentioned Pelinka and this is Chris. I wrote a letter. It's kind of looking back at the the predictions. I mean before the season started in one of them was that you know Coups mom his sixth man of the year stuff and like who might finish the MVP voting. And then Frank Vogel will get some votes but rob Pelinka won't and my basic theory of that was if the Lakers are good. It's mostly going to be because people look at it and say I could've traded for Anthony Davis to and you guys the perception. At least to lose a lot of people will screw that up like didn't even do that cleanly and trading. Anthony Davis not that hard. Just keep offering things until they say. Yes but you're right the roster construction after that has been pretty good and so how much credit is he gonna get for that versus Lebron versus Is he going to be an executive of the year noting. No no I know because You know the trade that he made it was a closed system. You know he didn't he had to make the trade and he paid a super duper agree with that's not GM. And here's the other thing is that we remember that that award is voted on by the other teams. Yeah Okay Okay and I'll just point out the year. The Pat Reilly signed Lebron James and Chris Bosh and put that team together He had to share executive kid of the year and really. It wasn't showered because he shared it with our former from the Bulls but John Paxson also got votes so the Bulls. They technically shared it. Technically he was coach of the year but the Bulls actually got more votes. So in the year that Riley pulled off one of the great mile phrases coups of all time and that was just just because there's pettiness. Yeah that's also the thing about it is is that everybody resents the Lakers. Even though they've had an incredible run of poor performance and bad luck incredible. Run of bad luck. I mean even just last year the Brown gets hurt. Ingram has the blood clot. Lonzo gets hurt. Just that was horrible with some like they kept on. They kept getting keeping these lotteries stuff. Every single year Lakers are are this charm franchise that have huge advantage which they do but no one's ever very rarely when the magic thing happened. People in the League were laughing. They were in celebrate how how joyous it was because the number one. They like it when the Lakers down. And you know it's one of the reasons why it's Kinda sometimes hard for Lakers to do it. Yeah all things being equal teams. Don't necessarily want to help the Lakers. Now a Lotta Times all things are unequal like in the case of the Anthony Davis thing. Anthony Davis had to do his best best to remove the suitors. He had have rich. Paul out there saying you know. Don't send me the Boston. He and also like he you know. He sort of helped the Lakers to the the finish line there so even though it was a trade is potentially going to maybe bring the Lakers championship and potentially even in a in a history of trades. It's all all time potential. all-time trade for the Lakers. There's Linka would never give proper credit for doing that. Deal that again. I that I sort of agree with. I don't think that this stuff. It was the stuff that came after I wrote about this at the time and we talked about an air at the time. The hard part is what comes next and they'll really hard part is what comes two years from now when they still don't have any stuff and maybe don't have cap space and all these other things but like they they. They were kind of clever in how they put the rest of the stuff together in the role guys. They got him. It's been better than I thought it would be. I will say holes. beat the Lakers this year. Because you give them another off season cycle where they get to use their exceptions. I know that the the classes and deep well stars. They don't need anymore stars. This this is like what I said about the heat back then. Guess who the heat got. When they turned over there is when they got a full for their first full summer allegory Allen? Yeah okay then they got Chris. Andrews remind me that help in the end the whole Ray Allen worked a little bit so I'm saying like here's what I would say to the rest of the League. You WanNa get your championship get now. I'll give the Lakers another summer. Another summer to to to use their stuff. They'll be even stronger. I expect I expect the Laker fans are so oh puffy right now. We're just puffing down the four. Oh five the one. Oh one like. That's your twitter. They're going to be excellent. You just you just went from Brian. windhorst hates the the Lakers horses awesome. Honestly I I look at the Lakers Yup fairly last year. I never thought they would be. I thought they'd be a playoff team. I hated the way they were built this year. I thought they were better. I thought they were a player and a half away. I still think they would. They need one more defensive wing because I that's a lot of avery Bradley and Danny Green. That's a lot when they play the clippers. I'll tell you in a seven game series. Paul George and Kawhi Leonard are going to chew through with them. There's one other thing that the dynamic with the Lakers and clippers has flipped in a way that I think is kind of weird and will be can talk about that either with Ramona and Brian or just US depending on what Bryan does. After we talked to Lindsey theory who is coming on next I will probably talking about below deck Letsie Theory Right which you can also hang out. Where are you below deck idea I get you started on below deck is your Lissouba all right Lindsay? Third coming up next. Talk some Rams Brian Monzo. ESPN LA WE are raising Lindsey theory. We're trying to sometimes. It's hard the Lakers. Aren't the only red hot team in Los Angeles Ramona. Yeah I mean the rams. Yeah okay a little wrong after they lost Baltimore. They've been great. As I heard this morning we ever yet still yet as the their playoff odds ads skyrocketed. After the big win I think it was I think Lindsay said like twelve percent to twenty three okay. It's pretty good. That's better yeah higher. Yeah I need jerk off to pick a lane jerk off to either be like crappy. So I can say Jared Goff just is the guy that's GonNa never make me feel comfortable with him being a quarterback as you can't throw on the move and like if you if you break the pocket down even a little bit. He just starts throwing the ball over. Done look look or I need him to be really good. Because this thing doesn't work for me like Jared Goff as being the eighteen NBA plants averages out to like some weird version of Andy Dalton. If Andy Dalton were like eighty dollars basically Andy Dalton every game golf is sometimes awesome and then sometimes not it like I need him to be one of the other. Yeah Pick Elaine young so joining us right now. Lindsay theory covers the rams for. Espn Lindsey how are you sometimes awesome. Sometimes not that's a shame we didn't get the whole joke but before you were on but thank you for coming on the whole line set up and it just didn't it didn't work. It wasn't your fault it was a technical thing The other the thing that's going on Lindsay is the the rams have discovered. Suddenly the todd. Gurley is on the team What is is is this something we should expect the rest of the season? What flip the switch there? Well apparently according to Sean McVeigh. He's no longer an idiot and he has now rediscovered. Todd Gurley You know they've said all season. It's not a load management program but it seemed like they went into this thing trying to keep todd Fresh for late. Of course. I thought they'd be right there in the of the playoff race which they kind of still are. I was side jam but I expected todd. Gurley will play a very prominent role. All the offense as they continue to fight What that outside chance of making the playoffs? What if they'd started the season a little bit better if there were three or four games over five hundred before they made their little run? Now would they have been in a d. We still be waiting for me to do it because I just wonder if he was on a pitch count and they just needed to start growing more earlier than they wanted to. Yeah yeah well I think it's the rams are really just won that game in Pittsburgh they would be right there in the sick of the play offs conversation. I mean they'd be probably tied with the Vikings for that last five right now And that was the game when it really stood out. What what the early because you know they were down by four points at the start of the fourth quarter and he's sitting on the bench and you just think like what you guys are losing? You need this win and Dan. Your best player is still on the sideline. Just making sure he remains healthy. It just didn't make a whole lot of sense but You know for now. They are going talk girly and it really changes the dynamic of the whole offense along with their use of us and tight end. What is the rest of the team? Think this situation not just taught or or Sean. They've what does this got to be something they talk about too. Yeah they do and and their whole thing is like. They're just happy for todd and they continue to stay you know that. It's kind of a media driven narrative that we've been in Ashfield. They read all this stuff. That thing all this stuff about todd. And they're all still so believing in todd so to them they at least kind of come off like it's a media driven thing. So I guess Dr Fault Lizzy theory joining us right now. She covers the rams for ESPN. Of course you hear her on our air all the time Lindsay you. What were the odds this morning after the Seattle win it was up to like twenty whatever you know? I was twenty two percent after Sunday And I actually haven't checked last night's game relationship impacted it too much. Watch about twenty two percent of their cancer. The playoff all right. So that's still there and they've got some games left that aren't necessarily easy and they still have to play up in San San Francisco and there's some stuff that needs to happen when you talk to these guys and you know or a talk people. Obviously everybody's GonNa say oh. Yeah we still believe. We're in it and and this and that and the other. How much do you believe them when they say? Oh Yeah we're still in it and we think we're going to get there. Yeah you know. I don't believe in pretty much wholeheartedly. Because if they didn't think they were still in it. I don't think you would see that. The effort that they've shown up with You know this isn't a team that looks downtrodden. Like they are kind of putting themselves out. I mean the way they showed up on Sunday against the seahawks away. They've rebounded from that Embarrassing loss to the Ravens. I think the team that still together I believe in it and also if you take a look at me and the cowboys right now. Obviously you're having their own struggles. The forty niners came out of that New Orleans game pretty banged up and and then they have the cardinals again so if they went out the rest of the season. There's a pretty good chance I think somewhere in the eight or ninety that they're going to make the playoffs so I I think when they say they're actually believing Lindsay. What is what does this look like for next year? I mean this is the part where everybody starts getting paid things get really expensive. Yea Yeah it's not really interesting because especially the offensive line. And that's the one area it's like they need a good line and Andrew. Whitworth contract is expiring expiring Austin Blythe. WHO's the one of the guards? He's now at the center position. His contract is expiring They have no first round picks. So so you look and you wonder how they're going to replace Whitworth and then blind or they're going to be able to bring him back on the cheap You Know Cooper Cup in John Johnson Johnson kind of two guys that they drafted and developed. They're going to be looking for paydays. Jalen Ramsey is going to be looking for a payday so next Steven. It's really hard to tell right right. Now what the rams are going to be able to do the new salary cap coming out. It's going up a little bit but I don't know that it's going to be going up so much that you can have A four really of the highest paid players kind of breaking NFL. Records in Jared Goff Aaron Donald Todd Gurley and Jalen Ramsey And you know feel that. Feel the team that competitive competitive position really interesting basically got him over a barrel. Because it's like you did all this stuff to get me you you know. The defense has changed significantly. Since you did get let me. You can't let me go. They know that yeah and if they do need to let him go. They're not going to recoup two first round picks for him because because every other team in the NFL going to know well. The Rams can't pay him so they're going to need to get rid of him so we're not gonNA pay top dollar for me either So it's a pickle pickle the rams are in when it comes to that right now is just GonNa be really interesting to see who they choose to try to keep around which guys they've developed and they can hold on hugh versus which ones are going to have to go simply because they can't afford them talking Lindsey theory and all the Mason Ireland show call in on the Morongo casino resort and SPA celebrity hotline. Line Morongo good times. That makes you Lindsey a celebrity Ha. Hardly I disagreed. You get in the playoffs. uh-huh yeah I do actually and you know what if you'd asked me that a couple of weeks ago I would've said not a chance but I think that they have found a good a winning in combination here since twelve personnel tyler. I think they've found kind of solution to some of the problems. They couldn't solve with their offense early in the season season and When I again I look at the remaining three games? Of course it's GONNA be a tough game in San Francisco tough game in Dallas. But I think they're winnable and And I think that Niner's game is winnable by virtue of the fact that they are again as banged up after that New Orleans game with a couple of guys are going to be out for a couple of weeks so lynn's I they didn't catch below deck last night. I usually watch like the second. It comes out. So without spoiling everything with all the details how how would you describe. Last night's the episode excellent excellent and very dramatic but not a lot on the boat not a lot in the last night. What did you think about the part where the boat thank no happened? You can't you can't say that you can't make jokes like that about Captain Lee ship out there. We would never let the boat sink. I mean there was one time last year they will stock that was captain. Sandy like anchor got stock that they were stuck out there. Four days man to take like a raft opted in. But that's about that's annoying how much these people spend on these delights. That's not good. That's a bad look. It's about the closest yeah I lindsay. Thanks appreciate it. Thanks guys have good one lindsay theory. ESPN covers the the ram. She thinks getting in you think they're getting they're getting in. I feel like they're getting in. I mean they're good is such so many are good here. But that would over Seattle was that it was a must-win game and they and they looked at it and they look good. Doing it wasn't just you know. Do you think we could draw Bryan out long enough for the actually participates fasttrack. Oh that's a ways away not really really okay. We'll see what we can do. Kielland speech super interesting segment couch off. Right he's a friend of mine it's I you know I mean I like to think it's you but I don't know we'll see all right. Franken Netscape Ramona. Shelburne Mason Ireland. ESPN LA this. Is Liz nailed it. Brian Kamensky Super Hip. Totally clued into all the music that the young people listened to just like Mason if he never left Ramona Shelburne and also Brian Windhorst here. ESPN ESPN La. The Lakers twenty one and three heading out on this five game road trip. And it's a big one because it finishes attention Milwaukee but like the rest of the troops kind of hard to Miami's not a joke in the Amazon a joke with the night off before right off the Miami often that's a trap off days Miami Atlanta. Yeah get after Admiral Akbar sounds like that's a real thing off nights and my you know. The Lakers are pretty veteran team. So I wouldn't be too worried about it but you know Lebron I don't think is one there since he left. Frank did he say I'm saying that tentatively because I'm not a hundred percent sure but I don't think Cleveland Cleveland Franchise has one in uh Miami since Lebron came down in two thousand ten and did the Lakers win their last year. Probably not I don't bear much anyway. Anyway he hasn't done well in Miami. Does he care about that. No no I mean. He definitely played in the game because he was with Wade. They've all right but yeah that's right I can't remember anyway No I think right now. There's no donald has them. I guess as left but no the they've all moved on from that in fact the the heat. Are you know living well now so I don't think it's an issue the game against Jaanus. That's that's the big the big at the end of this year. The bucks have lost between them. I don't know what's up scheduled. They have a couple of back to backs at least one back back between now and then second I have a back to back. You're always susceptible susceptible but I know that they play. They play the the Knicks and cavs in there. So there's there's some other some games the other way I you look at the the way the Lakers are are set up right now and I mean Janas who. They're going to go. See the end of this trip. I think pretty much of the voting happened today for. MVP to have this like he's that guy. It's kind of doing everything and he's doing everything. Davis is doing a little bit. More of the bucks are amazing. They don't lose and he is unquestionably everything that drives that team. The Lakers have probably been consensus. Second and third is is there a Luca is maybe luke debate. But I don't know if there's mavericks are going to be a good enough. Brexit surprised those guys when bon temps did his Straw poll of the MVP votes of how far and away Jaanus was running away with that. Not because he doesn't deserve it. It's just that normally the media is influenced by grand narratives right and this grand narrative with us. This year is not there. It's just yeah he's he's just as good as last year if not better and so were they. But Lebron has the narrative this year. Luca has a narrative Lebron for sure the the concept concept that another Lebron team could even be in the top. Five is incredible if that's actually what ends up happening forget about whether Anthony Davis can win it or not. He's never had any Dwayne Wade wasn't in the top ten and he's been the most dynamic and by the way let me know. He'd Lebron at fifty one last year. Miami one that game big. It made a big impression on me. That's how they were already rejecting everything. That was a huge game. It was a really big deal. And we've we've already forgotten about it but but it works both ways though because we spent a lot of time talking about is. AD The best player. Lebron play with the argument. Is He better player than Dwayne Wade. Yes no whatever. He's a better fit. It's easier for Lebron to play with ad than it was with Wade to figure that out to took turns. They did all this other stuff but we forget the other side of it. Lebron James is light years better than anybody. WHO's the best player even more fun? WHO's the second best is player that ad ever played with before he got here with Lebron's because drew holiday was the best when right there? You're just like drought is. Maybe the sang all all sorts of. WHO's the second best tyreek Evans? Maybe there'd be some debates about that near is not clear answer but the fact that there's not a clear answer because that guy is a mid level rotation actually it probably be somebody who forgot back and so now you. You of Anthony Davis at twenty six years old going into this is. You're talking about storylines I actually think. As the year goes on partial Lebron could push it that direction direction at the story is a great one to you know a guy comes over. I chance to win a title Kinda takeover team new city new era when he plays defensive player of the year level stuff goes out scores. Twenty eight points. That's a pretty good story too. Yeah I don't I don't know if it's going to be enough with is Lebron the team I think Lebron leads the League in assists. I I can't believe I just couldn't believe that I would ever say the Lakers could win sixty two months ago. But but if the Lakers went sixty games and Lebron leads the League in assists and I mean this game Milwaukee could matter like like. Let's say they go up to Milwaukee Milwaukee is one home loss. Say Up there in the Bronx as great and they win that could end up being a factor and it to I don't know we can assist and your teeth year. Vo Vo Lebron like I remember when Kobe won his. MVP It was not as best season But that particular Moore Year. The other candidates weren't that strong and it was like Kobe's on a really good team and we owe it to him and I remember voted for like this because there had been other other years where you're getting credit for being better teammate. I remember that year that was the narrative. Yeah there was a narrative the narrative matters. And it's not just to like Tim bontemps around and and who's a right if he did a little Straw poll he got. He got a lot of people. Here's one hundred and one people so this was not like I asked nine people. And here's the one hundred people a lot. The hundred people vote. That's the same as he asked me and I got you know who's your top five and I don't know of one hundred one. Are they all writers that he got did he gets the broadcasters did he gets radio pretty representative sample. I think that you could look at that and say it was a pretty representative sample sample because to me. That was for Y- honest to be as far out ahead was really surprised. I told my vote for Ron. I would give it to Yana but I mean I almost don't sort of don't care in that respect is never. I don't care who wins awards but the fact is like to me. It reminds you that the the analog for this team gotten so used to big. Three's it's a big three. It's big three. You know. Go Back to Miami. It's it's a big three golden state the Chatanooga big foreign that you need and who's going to step up to be the third guy for the Lakers. We did the the analog for this team is the shock Koby team where the two is so good that you you know. 'cause there are two of the three or four best players in the league the rest. You don't need the third guy necessarily to be another all-star you just need a a system and a an ecosystem around them that works. Yeah and the Lakers have that right now. In coups was not even playing that well so if he gets better now. I wonder if against like the Clippers doc and you know Paul George and that they can make it so they need a third guy more consistently than they do in the regular season. The Lakers the clippers have a big four. Yeah Yeah you can debate the debate. The word big but they've got four terrific four guys. You probably should be all stars. I don't know if they'll will. What's what's interesting I remember when we were doing our preseason picks and it Kinda just came down to this is like a seven game series and you have to pick two stars Lebron? Ad Even though quiet and Paul are are great. The clippers do have a deeper team. They've got what they go ten deep. I mean they're they're much. See what happens. What happens the Lakers? Two Stars are better as good as those guys are. The Lakers two stars right now today. Better than the clippers. But what do you do with if the if the clippers can kinda chip away one of those two guys. Who's WHO and? Then what do you. What do you do with the Lakers with Lou Williams in the in the fourth got three guys when I look at playoff series I always look at margin for margin fares? Everything's to me in the playoffs. What level can you get away with and still win So if you if you look at the clippers they could have one one or two of their stars played poorly and get away now. Here's the thing that Laker fans will see. Ron Never has playoff game. Yeah never has a bad playoff game. This is one thing that's just become come. Amazing there was actually a time and Lebron career were wonderful Ronald bring it tonight now. It's a matter of will he. Will this be a top Fifteen Lebron Playoff Gabrielle. Just be a top fifty. Layoff abroad the thing that we didn't see last year and we are going to see it but there. There's no doubt in terms of star power that the clippers deeper deeper. But I still don't know who guards Anthony Davis I just like the matchup of Anthony Davis against anyone like name to players in the League who you think would have a good chance and defending. Anthony Davis think about that. Just don't marinate on that for Leonard Can Defend Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis get him every now and then yes he would get Adam. You're not gonNA sit him down every time but Kawhi Leonard Regard I The Lakers are heading out on the road. They are all on their way to Orlando. They're twenty one and three and the rich are are getting richer. I will explain next Brian. Kamensky Ramona Shelburne. Thank you Brian Windhorst away.

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Bartending for Cocaine Dealers (with Matt Dooyema)

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Bartending for Cocaine Dealers (with Matt Dooyema)

"You're listening to America. Well field served free. Where Bone Avenue shows liberty? The Justice Hank took a It's still too free America mother fucker. Who Low hello? Hello Filter Free America listeners. Welcome back once again to the filter free America. podcast I am so happy. You are here because if you weren't here this would be really ridiculous. Me Recording these things on a on a near near weekly basis and putting them out there for absolutely nobody that would be a tremendous waste of time so consider yourself the key component of the filter free America. podcast cast you the listener all right. Let's talk about this episode. The guest is a comedian in one of the hosts of the awful service. podcast Matt Dima Matt Matt Damon. That's Spelled D. O. Y. M. A.. If you're not familiar with the awful service podcasts you should check it out as a great podcast. Where He he and his Co host and guests Talk about mostly jobs and experiences related to the service industry and there's all kinds of greed episodes out there Do not available label on pod being I tunes SPOTIFY and they're getting they're becoming available on more and more outlets are all the time so so Definitely searched for the awful service. PODCASTS find him on on facebook as a way to get in contact with them and find out what they're doing. Really good podcasts. You should check out if you're looking for another one to listen to Anyway the service industry is kind of what we're talking about in this episode specifically specifically his time working as a bartender now he has worked as a bartender multiple places. We focus on one specific bartending job. He had where he he was. Slinging drinks at underground parties. 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UNCURLING customer Polish people notice so it was this this yourself and killer in reading and while you wait story take me back to two thousand six and you you were working as this kind of underground bartender thing yet to talk about the bartending job. I explained to the listeners. What you were doing and how you were doing it well willing to put it in context? I was always worked in the service industry my whole life so I always had a fascination with alcohol. I'm very and I. I was learning how to make drinks. Thanks could actually was a bar an actual bartender as well but the place that closed down early and I wasn't getting a lot of bartending justice mercy waiting tables but I learned a lot of tricks on how to like make good tasting cocktails and everything like that So I got this reputation around singlet state Where I would show up at House parties and bartend for them and when I would do is mainly make jungle juice find a good way to like get people fucked up for cheap but also have a taste good like people knew what? If I was making the drinks it was gonNA taste good and for me. I knew how to do it so I could make money off of this so what I would do. Is I would go to these parties. I would go to the liquor store and I would find the cheapest deepest clear alcohol I could find be at rum ever clear not as often but more like rum and vodka especially I wouldn't use Jin because the pine needles needles but you know what is the absolute cheapest clerical isn't isn't it ever clear as I know only the absolute cheapest these at the time of vodka or something No vodka cigarette. Yes filtered once. It actually sat on. The bottle proudly barely filtered once surprise whether it was five dollars a handle back in two thousand and six maybe six is between five and six bucks depending if you bought it but I mine when the yellow more than clear clear though it was clear it was clear but mainly tasted like rubbing alcohol notion. Yeah I actually. I think it may have been classified as vodka flavored alcohol which is a real thing by the way is if you buy a very cheap bottle of alcohol look at it and sometimes it will say if it's a really cheap like if it's phillips or a cheaper level of of liquor sometimes that will actually say flavored alcohol. No Shit if you buy a bottle well A good example is Durango. Tequila is not really Tequila. It is to Keila flavored alcohol because it is actually cheaper for them to put the flavoring into it. It and just use a grain alcohol. Yes it's not real. It's not real Tequila all the fuck. You just broke a major fucking scandalous. Yeah thing in the jets. It's a Bart as a bartender. I I used to have to make no fucking clue. Yeah I used to have to make a long island. Mix Place that I worked at and we use silver wolf and on the bottle so on the bottles the Silver Wolf it was Jin Vodka and rum said Jin flavored alcohol rum flavored alcohol vodka flavored alcohol and bartenders do blind taste tests. And you couldn't taste the difference at all just tasted like hairspray only. Yeah so it takes a certain art to know how to take that cheap shit and make it taste good especially the I mean when I say good I say relatively good us as as adults now we get that fucking crap out of the year but when you're twenty twenty one twenty two if you can make cheap booze taste good. You're you're very useful and that's my first. Alcohol was mad dog twenty twenty. That tells you anything so. Yeah that's that's a whole other beast. That was you ride that night. Train over to Arbor mist. Okay Oh God that stuff is all heinous. Best about remissed was putting it in the freezer. I'm going to get cold anyway when you bring it out of the freezer and pop thing and it turns into slush instantly. Oh Yeah oh I know I used to use arbor mist as a mixer. Can with that fucking not not for that. But it's it's I did it for a party. Wants where they for some reason they had a bunch of Arbor mist. And I'm like we're making punch fuck. I put a bunch of Buchan that cheap vodka flavored alcohol Ann Arbor Mist and my mind is still blown to a fucking clue. That was a real thing Is that make it more unhealthy healthy for you. Did you drink in like a I think well alcohol is the thing about alcoholism i. It's just the same way no matter what okay so it's not like it's a ls all. It's all really is all alcohol is really going to do is a better quality alcohol. That means it's probably been purified more. You're not gonNA have like some of the other stuff with it but in terms of like the other way your body just as all the same God. Yeah Yeah so we would make I've known for doing this. Well I I would show showbiz parties. I would have this. I would go psycho by crates of this. Because you've got a friend of it They would take fifteen twenty some liquor stores through thirty percent off. It's already six bucks a handle retail for so I'm getting like these like four or five dollars a bottle and and that's One seven five you you know most drinks had about the way I would make drinks as I do about a half. Maybe two ounces of of that so you think so. You're paying pennies on the dollar. Because I would charge to an on. People thought they were getting a good deal because church two bucks a pop for some of these like slushy drinks. That'd make with that. Some cheap ass Margarita. Mix about seventy five percent return on investment. I WANNA leave pending some nights. It was closer to ninety. Oh because the mixer I was buying for it to that summer I would buy crates the mixer. The mixer would be cheaper because I buying crates the that they were selling they had it on sale all summer. Six bucks a bottle for this stuff to and it was about a man I want to say about a leader of. It's like a Margarita. Mix so by a case of the Green Margarita. Mix The lime and a case of the Strawberry Margarita Mix I would then Each bought what they don't unrealized each bottle. Also had a rebate coupon on it and they didn't have a limit on the rebates. I won't So this company was literally I think I was paying. You may be a dollar. Fifty a bottle after rebates and the discounts. I got for buying it in that. So dollar fifty per bottle that and I would use a couple of the mix is in there and then I I would go buy the cheapest gin and I'd always ginger ale that people use lemon lime soda. No use Ginger Ale. Ginger Ale covers a lot of sins. Real yeah and I was more potent flavor ever than it is okay yeah and like especially generic derails lot is like as a bunch of sugar in it okay. That's really a bunch of olive onto college. Kids want something secret ingredient is that Nah the secret ingredient was doing that. Yes Roger and then sometimes I you know every once again throw some other odds and ends of Shit and stuff but they make slushy drinks with this and then I'm charging two bucks and I think They would cost me about thirty five to forty five cents a pop so I'm making money hand over fist at these parties. Need I do it around town and people knew I was making a profit. aww It note was with Sir by knows. This is all underground. Shit you're doing. I was licensed to Cell and I was selling the miners on because I'm in college. I'm unscrupulous needed scraping by. I need to pay rent I need to go. I WANNA party myself and do other shit so I I'm like fuck it. Yeah why not. And here's here's another fun tip Underage and young college kids don't know the difference between booze so I would go buy a a of bottle Jim beam and then I would empty the Jim beam at my house until like water bottles and then fill it with early times bourbon. which was about ten dollars? Cheaper a bottle. I do the same thing with Jack Daniels Evan Williams. I do the same thing where I would filter that cheap cheap shit by those. I can't believe I got away with that. I I would filter it through a water filter. I learned on mythbusters which came out before. I don't think it was on mythbusters yet. But they did actually prove that as a real thing and I it was like I think at the time it was something you could find on college. Humor DOT COM or E. bombs world or. Some shit was talking about it and it did. It did help the flavor so I'd run that through and then I'd pour that shit into a bottle of sky I would pour and then I would have. I would have a bunch of these pho- booze things but I would charge five dollars. A shot ought right for like this fake ass booze but they people wanNA believe they want to believe it or how often 'cause I've worked at a Mexican restaurant. It was like an independent kind of mixed restaurant and they did that. Oh yeah the regular bottles they just fill it up with generic and no one ever said anything with those spots. They'll do that. They'll they'll they'll do it as a way to. I mean it's it's a little more unscrupulous. When you're a fucking business owner doing it and that you can get in a lot of trouble for But if you you think about it even if you just did like a fifty fifty mix diluted down a little bit the average I unless you get a real fucking SNOB. And they're not GonNa no that's bold though. Let's think about it. Because like Tequila specially has a lot of aficionados. You know these people who are like oh no I I only drink don. Julio and I know that this isn't quite this this doesn't taste right and actually I worked. I know people who've worked at places. Like Oh really and then they go get the real bottle a don. Julio and they pour another one forum for him not the fake the phone down and then sure and then the guy who owned no this one tastes better like oh maybe someone spilled something in your drink and all. We're so sorry glasses acid hundred percents. Oh dirty glass gets used a lot right. So I'm I'm twenty two years old. I'm working a regular job where I'm still making money in tips and then I'm also driving after work over these house parties. I started doing it. And these guys I START II. These guys who started seeing I. I'd help them. Give them a recipe for a walk or a jungle juice or whatever you WANNA call it. And they're like hey. Hey do you want US helps. Run A wop twice a week and I'm like fuck. Yeah money baby like that's all I'm thinking right. Is that a Minnesota term. I've never heard that LOB. Yeah I mean I know it is as the racial term for talion. But we're we're we. They wanted me to run an Italian man out of town is his name was Dago. God that is the that's an old puck and rate that's the classic classic. That's old squad. Irish allowed sort of thing. You know what I mean Dan. That's hurtful anymore. Laugh at it. They're like the day go without passport. Yes but No it's just called the walk because it packed a Wop uh-huh okay There's also like you know it's colloquially known as jungle juice some spot Sir John Leguizamo called in southern Missouri was everywhere kind of has its own colloquial term for it but it's basically just a lot of clear booze usually ever clear or vodka and then you mix it with whatever juice and fruit you can get for dirt cheap yoursel. You'd be bigger than a big fucking trash can. Because that's you know we're smart. Yeah but we would make it in trash cans ends and we and then we would sell that for F- It was five bucks for all you could drink and if you wanNA think and but they wouldn't make that we would make that much and so we're we're doing this party and then I like well I'll bring my bar set up and I had a whole thing. I two blenders. I had a power strip. I had a guy. Hi who is actually like a DJ who would play music for me. And he was he would honestly just do it for like twenty bucks and Free Booze for the night to sound like sold old. Just wanted to party and fuck and I'm like I'm GONNA make some fucking cash off these kids I would. I would make stacks of money like legitimately at some of these parties. Hardy's I would walk out with four or five hundred selling you earlier. The most I walked out with one night was a thousand dollars after after all after process of alcohol hundred percent like I would sometimes sell out of all of the booze I had and I would bring a lot but in the kids are tipping to throwing. They're throwing you know they're not tipping a lot because they're a college kids but they'd still if you bucks and then I I would use that to like. Sometimes I'd use that to like grease the palms of like cute chicks two guys to come over and or I get most of the time my just give free alcohol like alcohol especially at that time I was like it was very powerful. They go oh you'll give me free drinks if I- cute by the bar and try to get guys to buy me drinks. Yeah Yeah I will not give you the free booze when they're here but after they leave ya I'll give you a free drink totally. And they'd there'd be they they got got to know me as the bartender. Azmat the bartender. So this House that was colloquially largely locally known as the blueberry to blueberry and and then it got painted so they turn it into the Roxbury because I don't know they really like that SNL Sketch They're like hey why don't you come and help us run the swamp and then linked bartend for US cool I'm like I'm just thinking. Hey this'll be fun. I'll make some more money any whatever and it was the these POWs parties were massive and this is back like it was almost like the old school like just people piling out of the House. There's music blaring. There's fucking black lights and lasers lights and lava lamps because it was the two thousands and we didn't know we were but it was. It was like that so and I got this. Dj Who's playing music in the background. And I'm fucking mixing drinks and everything's fine. But I always felt something kinda different was going on but even by different. Well what was your first sign. What was with what seemed I? This is probably my second or third night. I'd been doing it. This is so this is a early June. I'd started there in started working there in like May and in early June This guy comes up to me and offers me a bump of cocaine and granted. That's not not all that uncommon at a college party sounds kind of friendly. Yeah but I I to this day and I I swear hand hand to God. I don't believe in God but hand to whatever whatever Richard Dawkins on. I've never done cocaine in my life. I'm been very scared of it My three comedy. Idols all died Including Chris Farley who died on my birthday really fourteenth birthday because he was doing speed balls and so that's where for Shit really goes wrong right. I knew in my heart. I already had alcohol problem and I had an addictive personality these so I'm just like you know let's not let's not push that fucking thing and I know I would love it i. That's the problem I look back and I love energy drinks. I Love Caffeine. So I've never heard anybody told me they didn't like cocaine. I'm sure that no and that's the thing and I knew that I also had some friends who have problems with it so in my mind and I nod dude. But I'm like that guy the way he was so he was very cavalier about it like whereas in the past. When I've been offered coke it was always the whole of the side? Oh he was just out there in the open line here you go. He was at the so we we had A. We had a bar in this house. It was a mini bar area. Like it wasn't an actual bar but we turned it into a bar like a tall table and so we turn it so people couldn't go behind the bar to fucking try to steal my booze and should I actually had people at that. Party was so big we had security really. Yeah his. We'll see guys who lived in the house but they had to go under security shifts to help me and and then what I later found out was going on in that house and again another reminder. It's it's not illegal deal. Here is just a house party type situation not is just a house party ah on the surface of it. Just a bunch of kids getting drunk. But here's our parties that we go to like three four in the morning and people would still still like look where we after partying chases and again. I'm just thinking You know they're just they got a and I had a high tolerance for just being able to stay up late and drink and party in on fucking young and invincible. But I always thought that McMahon. That's Kinda weird. They're not passing out. But I never thought on anything being artificially stimulated kind of weird way I had no idea so I'm so this guy like I said and I I hear dumb I was. I tried to have our security guy kick them out and the security guy. You're fucking with no he's like Oh okay okay. And he and he thought he didn't realize what it was that I wanted to kick for where he thought the guy was trying to steal from me. Oh good and I and later. He's like yeah that that asshole and again I I didn't realize it. And he goes. Yeah so he won't be trying to steal from you again and I'm like but you know what we got the asshole Outta here out here. Whatever and like I remember the guy goes I remember? What's the problem so the cocaine stuff started kind of becoming more regular so I started noticing A? Let's everyone really. He liked smoking. Parliament's what is the it's the F- The filter one that has like the little like there's a little dip in the filter very popular with cocaine users because then they can fill the top of that cigarette it's like it's like literally like like two or three millimeters round. I liked him when I was a smoker. Because I actually just like to chew so you could chew on it. They were originally were Parliaments were originally developed So that like British pilots during World War One ensued could bite onto a cigarette and still keep their hands on on the controls really could smoke. That's part of it as part of the lower of it anyway. I one hundred percent. You might have to wake you that. But that was I liked him because he could chew and but but then are also very popular cocaine users because then you can hide your coke and your cigarette pack and then a lot of people would do as you take a cigarette out. You take a bump and can you smoke your cigarette. Your cigarette has a little bit a little bit of cocaine laced in it. Oh yeah so I notice. A lot of people were smoking. Parliament's I'm noticing a lot. Audited they still sell those like that. They still still still that. That's part of the appeal of those parliament. Parliament Lights P funk's baby funk lights that's what that was my brand when I was a smoker her again. I didn't smoke them for that reason. I did it because I like to chew on things but I know there's a lot of parliament smokers and I all of a sudden you start noticing shit like bloody noses and you start noticing things like again people partying till four in the morning and still being able to party. And that's what I'm like. Okay so these guy that was was. Is there any ever any like dysfunction happening here i-is drugs was there ever overdose situations. Not that I see. Here's the the thing I think they knew to keep that away from me right. I think they're just like this guy is good at what he does with the booze. So he's just going to do his thing and we're going to do hours and I was a grand distractions so that people weren't fucking with them while they were doing business Again this is a college house. College Party mid-2000s. So they needed that distraction and they also need to provide entertainment payment hence the DJ and they needed the drinks to provide entertainment. Were you the only one who wasn't aware like the DJ was he was sure there were people the DJ they didn't know either but the DJ again. He was a buddy of mine. who was there for Pussy? And Friedrich Drinks Okay and he was in there every time either he was there some other times. I would just fucking bring mix CDs and we'd just pump out whatever makes bullshit you know we've made an MP three CD players can play like two hundred CDs. Yeah remember that kids remembered. MP Three CDs CDs. I do so we would or we'd hook up. I think the early early ipod on to like worthy tape. Remember the old CDs where the TRAE would come out and hold five I. I had one of those. I was the show people. I know a three disc the three of nineties technology it was but but this was a they actually had an MP three and then they also had a tape deck that we put an ipod on so they took play into the old fucking stereo system. So again I I had this. I always had a weird feeling but I'm just like I didn't even pay many mine. I'm making money baby right making them fat stacks and you're in your again from the. I'm from a tiny rural type area. I grew up north of brainerd. An talents like mayberry. You know now. It's like mayberry with meth right right or opium your choice Little gummy little actually. It's gotten a lot better. They did have a big math problem for a while though So so to me I never I was never really exposed to like partying up there. Smoking some ditch weed and drinking beers and then in college. It was still like you know you get a you. You might get some weed. Maybe somebody will maybe offer you adderall. which I never took again because I just wasn't my thing? I was never a never into that shit so I'm just like whatever you know home but again I'm not paying attention. I'm I of course at the time I had. I adjust I was I was in the process of breaking up with my ex. which was a whole mess? and A ex-fiancee by the way ex ex. Yeah so I'm trying to make money back from a wedding thing and it was just a it was a bad place. It was not a good it was not a good spot in my life so I'm not really I don't really care at a certain point. You know what was the. What was the final thing? When did you discover what was actually going on? I tell people what what all this cover was for what they were actually doing into what scale so well. I didn't learn the scale until way later. Okay but I I found out that I was entertainment for cocaine front. They were selling blow in the back room in. The basement is in the basement. So as you understand that this whole Party and everything was just really just a cover just a front for that too. And I'm and I again I. I thought that there's maybe someone selling little like eight balls. I'm thinking okay. Well whatever it's just not my thing but people can do what they want. Whatever I'm not GonNa do it then I still didn't and I never have but in my mind I'm just like I justified at like well? They're paying for the booze and the and the people who are running the party in the house where you know they're just whatever they had to pay the cost of business and give them some free drinks. There's always this older guy there too and you and I just thought he was creepy. You know in college there was sometimes the older dudes would just show up because they want young pussy. They want young chicks. You know and with older dude. He's just older held. We'll get most of us are in our early twenty s at the time. Or even there's there's a couple of guys who were like twenty and then the People party. There is people as young as I found out way later like seventeen. Okay I wish I do. I do Kinda feel bad about serving having a seventeen year old alcohol. It's whatever you live you learn. An alcohol wasn't the worst thing they were doing anyway. Clearly what's so. This guy was in his mid thirties. And give me a description of why do white Dude well-to-do well. No no you would not suspect Pale really gone really thin real skinny and tall had this long straggly. Blonde hair the local GAM wealth. or No. Or no you wouldn't you wouldn't have picked it. This guy was actually I think in the long run was actually pretty smart of his appearance because he wasn't trying to. It'd be flashy I. I do know that he drove a nice car. But I'm just thinking you're thirty you know I'm fucking dumb twenty something I'm like. Oh Your your thirties. You can have a nice car or whatever ever and I never paid any mind. I just thought he was the creepy dude at the party. Turns out no he was the guy who was the dealer around. Yeah he was pushing it on the house he and these kids were helping him sell. They were they were helping it. So those guys who are doing security there there they were actually having fun with me out in the bar they were actually doing real security by the other door right was dope was. Yeah so yeah and I and I didn't fuck unknown. They're drinking of course they're drinking. It was never. It was never anything serious or isn't really guns or anything or knives that I could see any way. No one openly carrying weapons but there were times where people were forcibly kicked the fuck out and I mean like kicking and screaming and I again. I was a bartender at the time as well and I'd been I worked in bars ars and restaurants. Of course you know you're just not controlled person you know. They did a little too much drinking. Maybe that'll bump and he's just fucking being an asshole. We need to kick him out now. Maybe there with some other shit going on. I'm not that I'm not. I've never been one hundred percent clear out of of the people who were you assume. We're we're making purchases there. What what was that? Demographic was all young all young people they were selling all too young people. At least that I could see but again I'm stuck behind trying to figure out where they bind for just for a personal user whereas they were they buying bulk to sell it somewhere else and as I found out later there were a couple different levels of purchaser. Okay there there were people who were just there just to buy an eight ball or to buy a few eight balls or whatever. They're here to buy a small amount just to party for the night or unites or whatever but what I found out later is this guy was dealing to dealers and that I found out later Up into an including pounds Jason. Not a lot of pounds. I'm not not saying he was moving. He's not like fucking moving like bricks but there were times where yet they probably were probably probably sold a pound or two in the house while I was there. I fought You said there was a A You told me that there was a costume night there. Yes what happened the constant. I was around Halloween or no. It wasn't it was just a mid. They just decided to can like July costume. Hardy let's go controls up. Okay yeah so. That was the night that I really figured out that there was more to it than just a little bit of blow because so I thought there was people wearing Zombie costumes. No they were bleeding out. There knows right into custody right I just thought I again. Then you realize no. That's real blood and I. That's the night that it really dawned on me. Oh no there's something more going on here but I'm just going like an I'm I'm fucking just. It was so bad and that was one of those parties that it was just off the chain guys and fucking blow up costumes and everything everything else you know like that. Do they charge people to come in the door on. No Okay sloughs. Don't okay but we did have a cap at a certain point like when you couldn't walk up can't can't can't let you in the they had a guy at outside and that guy I found out later was also like himself. The cops come things we did get busted. That's the craziest part heart of everything we got busted but it was the front of a House Party so the cops just thought it's just a bunch of dumb drunk. Kids go home go home take your keys. And they didn't even ask that they're they're drinking. Whatever so when those when that would happen I would I would dip out because I You know I I knew I could. I would literally just walk out with the rest of the crew. That would leave my ships. I know no one would take it known. They knew better than to mess with my stuff. Because I knew I wouldn't come back if they stole my my booze for that was like one of the things like if you fuck with my stuff. I just won't come back and then you won't have anyone to do this. And they're like okay then. That was really the weird part to they. Were very for for for a coke front. They are actually quite respectful of my things was nice. They're they're in for selling the coke. They again I was the entertainment I was just like I was a fucking party clown as far as they were concerned. They didn't care They knew I didn't do it. They knew I didn't do cocaine so I think after that said that one of those first nights where I kicked that guy kicked out in their dislike. Oh this is a fucking yachts over here like he's just say he's just slinging drinks kool while he gives us free booze to do it right as far as I was like basically I was a booze caterer Israeli kind if you really need to put negative perspective but was a core group. I mean there had to be. There is the main do the older dude. He'd in there. Okay did they. Whose place was it was these other? So's the guy the guys who recruited me okay Got Their names kind of escaped me. But they all had like like Phil and Tam like they were just normal. Graying all white guys you know unassuming early white dudes which actually is a really great front. If you're trying to do that so yeah again. They just look like the guys who are like they they go to the park and play football and then go drink beer like they just they look like all American Amer Crombie model sort of mother fuckers. You know what I mean. Unlike the date that they looked like they had money. Do they care any different than he did. One little bit he they were actually a little bit more brazen about the away. They spent cash but I just thought they all driving nicer. Cars go nuts. Not Quite that not to that point. They weren't like at that point would they were doing. They were the guys who would go to the bar like the real. He'll bars like downtown saint cloud and they will drop ship Tana cash on leg and by people rounds they were the guys who we come up to me at the bar at the party would throw money at me and just take bottles of booze. They were guys. We don't wearing really night. They're wearing nice clothes and they're starting were jewelry. Not like the like what early. So we've got to put in context so the two thousand six like what they thought was. You know there weren't a little bling chains shit. I'm just like these are just douche bags. Whatever I'll make I'll take their money any that's all I kept thinking I'll take their money? You know I'm I'm in my own head space volume you know I'm I'm just here to do my own grind. Whatever and I use I use my money to pay bills and taper some of my school like honestly I paid for? I probably paid for textbooks with money that was used to start blow. Wow I mean if you went to a good place right yeah my my higher education. That's why I'm still a bartender. Thirty five so how did this all end. You're only did this for like four four months right yeah Elliot for four months and it would part of it because it was just the summer thing and I'm like I'm I didn't I wasn't taking summer classes or anything and I I needed an extra gig needed some extra money and they were supposed to be one more party before school. lets out her school. That's the school Starts again all of a sudden I get taxed saying like did you hear what happened at the Roxbury and I'm like what now like they got busted and I'm just thinking like again at the time am I wasn't quite sure what the scale was. But somebody had snitched on them. They were her like doing again. That's how I found out they'd done a couple pounds and it had to have happened when I was there. I'm sure they also deals when I wasn't but it was a it was a again. It was kind of a brilliant idea. You throw this House party. It's just a guy at saint cloud state to. That's all those Party college you know. And in the meantime yeah they were. Yeah they and I think that I think if I remember well those guys all got vic dead so that they got from the house Because they were renting of course never ever and And I think they all the guys from the House snitched on the the main guy or I I know he went to prison because he he had like a felony amounts of cocaine. Well Yeah you don't think any amount. Okay yeah but I mean I'm talking like me me. He probably got a federal case like a kilo. It's I mean well actually anything over a few ounces and yet My name stayed out of everything they I I again. I as far as they're gonNa do to you anyway. Ed guys selling drinks. Yeah the where we thought you were. The bad is due to the for a for a for legitimately half of that summer. I thought I was like the guy was the criminal king again. You know I'm going to myself. I'm selling selling booze and fucking make money in doing this. Like a completely unregulated truly I was also committing crimes but the drop in the hands of. Yeah really going on did you. Did you ever learn about where it was coming from or I would assume duluth probably came in on a boat I I. It wouldn't surprise me if it was duluth as a big importing place for all kinds of fun stuff legitimately. I couldn't tell you where it came from. I don't know it was I. I don't know where the guy got it and that that's actually. I think what's kept me safe as I didn't interact with the big guy. He would occasionally throw money at me and take a bottle of booze and walk away. We I don't think we exchanged more than maybe fucking forty words with each other. Just Iowa fucking clown dancing thing on the bar with hot chicks trying to get them to get guys to buy drinks and stuff so he's just like yeah. This guy's a good distraction guarantee. I was just a to them. I was just Eh people knew what was going on with the better for them. Yeah a hundred percent and like I think I ran into someone else who used to go to that party like about a couple of months later and they're just like do you know how lucky you are that you weren't there that day they got busted and I never really hung out at that place other than the party nights which is funding again. Lucky me. Oh yeah and I think about that a lot like I. There's a legit chance I could have been an accessory to to this. This is massive. Cry On you know. It wasn't us. It was the guy behind the bar. He's the guy he's bringing it all in with fake alcohol right and here. I thought I was the one ripping them off by cutting that litter. Well if anybody's listening who is a part of this crime syndicate of of cocaine Please contact me get the rest of the story on that please. Don't I don't need you went on a podcast and talked about about this shit now. I mean I left names out the ones that and also just I didn't they are listening. I didn't snitch right. They were already there then. Nothing to do with you So to finish off the time on our on this podcast you had another story. That's completely unrelated. Oh yeah and now for something directly different but but also kind of similar apparently a little bit. There's some there's there's some striking thirty so a couple of years ago this is going to be So it's thirty two. I'm going to be thirty thirty six's here so surrogate but the little over almost four years ago now a buddy of mine. was an event coordinator in Saint Cloud and he calls me up one day and he knew that I would. I would come and help him with events. I helped him uncle beer. Festivals and CIDER fast couple CIDER festivals is well on Bartender Ilya so whatever but he knew like I lived close to to the civic center where they were holding this event and he comes. He's like hey man I need. I need hand on this. I'll pay you cash under the table. Just come and help me out. I'm like cool. Oh I had no idea at this point. What what he wants but is a good buddy of mine and he never would really? He's not anyone I'd ever have to worry about like leading me astray. Okay what ever and I've oh I've done. I did other stuff. I'm like you know like ducks unlimited. And these these are the really stupid little events I walk in on my oh. There's a concert going going on cool immediately. Put me to work. This concert. Plays right still what it is yet and not quite. They're like Oh you're here to work. I didn't even see my boss yet. I was dude walking off the street and they immediately put me to putting electronics together for a laser as our light show. I have no experience doing this. I'm thinking I'm just GonNa do General Labor. I walk up after half an hour of me trying trying to do this. The kind of goes with the fucker you doing. Are you trying to get somebody killed. Yeah apparently I what I was doing. It could have caused a fire. Oh Nice Nice. And that's when I found out I was rotating for kids BOP. Now explain to people who don't know what kids poppies kids. Bob is a popular group that covers pop songs and makes them more kid friendly and they're sung by children. They've been around for over twenty years like preteen annoying. Yeah eleven twelve thirteen probably yes. I think they like a tween group sort of thing and it's always a change in cast a kids kids. Every CD I think is different kids all and they tour with each age out. Yeah Yeah it's probably like menudo sort of thing you know it's only the More annoying Rightish Inman UTO right gross. So Oh and by the by the magic of of editing if you want to know what it sounds like it sounds is like this the road. I'M GONNA here DOC is Mattie buddhist-backed. Imagine your Porsche. Anna Valley poor. That's that's disgust. It's not it's not good right but this is music to kill yourself to hunter. I kind of wanted to. I hate children a hate singing children even horse so it's and especially special level of health. Shing the lyrics of songs you know right to be more child-friendly only way I would enjoy. Gioia is if they sang like Gangsta. Rap Music on edited police. Fuckin- Kitty chipmunk voice. That's beautiful I like that right. So we're we're I'm setting up this this whole so. They take me off the electronics. Thank God and I'm like kids Bob. And that's when my I say that. And that's when my buddy buddy comes out he's like yeah. You know I run this thing and I'm like I'm like kids Bob. And he's like and then immediately the the guy who's like the tour manager walk so yeah. Yeah Kids Bob. Ah Cool and also for the listeners. Just know this is is huge yes financially wise like I remember when we start talking about uh-huh remembering those commercials. 'cause you could buy a CD or they're all singing. All the top forty songs have whatever whatever and then we went to go to youtube to look at subscribe. They got a one point five something million subscribers on their goddamn YouTube channel and that's just on Youtube they're exploiting the fuck out of these children they're probably are we getting a hundred dollar check here and there and some fucking assholes making a stage show where they're doing costume changes dancing choreographed dancing to laser lights and other shit right so he puts me back to work. But it's like something a little bit more. My speed he goes. Hey I need you to set this energy. Go onto the side of the stage and set a privacy curtains. And I'm like privacy curtains. Why would you need privacy curtains? Oh and he goes. Oh because the pederasts sit on the corners and look over to watch the kids changing unbelievable one of those things you don't think about if you're not a pedophile. For where anything something yeah legitimately. He's like yeah. We have to put these up because we noticed that single men were buying the very in the front row. were buying the edge seats. It's so that the diagonally could look at kids changing holy fuck so. They knew that they could improve that. They couldn't prove it but in the I. I think that there's probably as my guess is. There's a precedent for this right so now now you gotta get wonder are the kids Bob. Do they know that can't do anything about Out It or do they look at it as well. That's another ticket sold. I don't know mostly I will say that. They were really promoting it for families thing. I will legitimately say that they were it was supposed. I like a family show the churches. Also you know Oh. I have enough stories but I grew up Catholic. That's a whole other podcast right like I was part of the Saint Paul Archdiocese. And that's all leave it. Did you got kidnapped. I did not. I didn't get kicked up but my priest who gave me my first communion did oh he was one of those you as a guy who gave me my first communion was it. I just was not his flavor. Okay and the body. Dismore Viet is giving me Myers. I feel kind of bad luck. You didn't cute my battle. Tangible cheeks both kinds but back up. Yeah because it gets beside I forget about it gets worse from here is a little bit. Yeah it's not worth. It just gets weirder okay weird so after. I'm putting that up. Then they had me doing like the set up chairs shares and. That's the usual concerts so I'm like okay. Whatever this I know? I'm going to get some money and then I'll hey. Do you WANNA help set up craft services cool and it's all the stuff you I think you're gonNA see kids kids services. There's oreo cookies. There's gushers there's cheese nips. There's three handles of patrol on there. There were three handles of patrolling Joey. That's in the writer to the edge off. Those kids then tried to go on stage without a little bit of a bus. Turns is out. The tour manager also worked with groups such as Motley crue and whitesnake and Bon Jovi in the eighties right. So somebody didn't want to give up the lifestyle. Put My boozer next big pile of pudding POPs that's gone. It was actually next to the Capri Suns make sense good mixer that's Because that was the last thing I did the tour manager then POPs open one of the bottles search drinking from directly and then hands ends a to me and we started drinking thrown out of the bottle chasing it with packets of Capri Sun Solaris backstage to and and their defense I couldn't go to one of those shows without having to be fucking trunk or hammered or Hawaii. I probably. You're probably not wrong all fuck so we're board so we're drinking and I'm like this and that's when the but here's the thing were drinking it and as were drinking the kids start coming in and I say this is a hundred percents true story I go. Do you really think we should be drinking around the kids and the kids without ago almost does this all the time like they were. They were so they were they were. The kids were numb to it. What are their? What's the handler situation? Like is their parents there. Nope real they were just like tour manager people really so people kids days Jones may have been parents. I didn't stick around for that long because I I. I'm I was like I had had a bunch of Tequila Kielland. I'm like I'm not GonNa stay for the concert. I already knew what was coming and also it just felt weird drinking tequila behind the stage as kids. We're getting makeup and stares ready it was just one of the things I my buddy goes and he hands me like fifty bucks and only a couple of hours of work. So I'm like whatever and I'm just sitting. Ah I leave just with that wide eyed look of the fuck just happened like. That's that's a weird resume builder and if you are if you're a member of Kids Bob and you're listening to this. This story. One hundred percent happened Saint Cloud Minnesota three years ago. Almost four Holy Shit. I almost want to go now. I want to go to a show in like go find the pedophile corner. Just start asking those guys. What's going on are you you guys just really big fan of Synchronize back there. What's going on only legitimately the the other roadies are like? Yeah no because a pedophile. And it's just like a pedophile. They're just like the but that makes perfect serves does but it was one of those things you just you. Don't you don't think about it. You know what other shows have like Kid Kassim. Isn't that other kinds of shows. I'm sure there are and I'm sure this is a problem at like like I. Prince theaters shed or something. The little girl that got killed the princess princess dress up called deter Thira show only tier toddlers and here. What are we talking to like the little mini mini pageants dudes? Go their lousy with fucking like kid fuckers. You know what I mean like hall footing. It was one of those things. You just you don't you you. Why would you set up these privacy? Curtains US thinking well first of all. I didn't realize how many outfit changes were included in it so that that's on on me for not being that naive and not realizing that they need to do plenty of outfit changes but also the fact that they had to put up the curtains because people were peaking backstage while Oh kids changing is just removing the people. Well they I don't I can't say specifically that there were but that that's what the crew crew were like yeah like pedophile. 's Holy Fuck down. And you're just like a kid's Bob Show and they're all show as we're trinket fucking Tequila backstage. So how. How did that influence was that basically it? I just got paid and walked out of there. And they're like do you want tickets to the show and I'm like no I could. I could have watched. I could've hung backstage and drank with them too and I was just like I. I need to get out of here. This is this is not where I wanNA be right now. OCTA DOC de Crazy thank you thank you for for both stories. That was Interesting and now. I'm terrified of kids Bob now. Two kids bop up and cocaine. Ah the.

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Baby Daddy

Help! I Suck At Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared

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Baby Daddy

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Vanessa has a smile that lights up a room every time. She hosted a podcast every time she was here every time i interacted with her she was nothing. But warm. and sweet and I definitely miss her energy on a weekly basis. But i want to say congratulations. She married her beautiful. Now husband josh the the gray wolf civil Very very handsome man so they are beautiful husband and wife and i haven't seen any pictures From the wedding. I knows a pretty small intimate ceremony and i'm excited to see Them on their wedding. Day and i wish them nothing but the best and a lifetime of happiness and i hope they. They grow their family soon. Because i know that vanessa is going to be an incredible mother. And i just i just. I'm really happy for. And i'm happy for josh and happy. They found each other. And so i wish them the best ashley and i are sending them our love. I suck at dating with dean. Vanessa and jared an. I heart radio podcasts. What is going on everyone. Welcome to help by second dating. This is deana Joined in studio. Across the world. By jared haven jared I was told that you're gonna be recording from a car but it looks like you're not in a car i know what's the deal so we were at a doctor's appointment. I thought it was going to be running late but we got out of there just in time so we had our third doctor's appointment i got to see an ultrasound once again and the baby is doing well. Everything is healthy blood tests drawn today. We don't get the results for a little while to see if the child has any health complications with spina bifida so hopefully those comeback normal and hopefully everything is healthy Everything is looking good. The sonogram man. It's it's crazy. I honestly for the first time. I felt really connected to the kid because is starting to look real. It's starting to look real. Sorry of course the phone and rang. When i'm going into this moment. I hope landline. Oh it's a landline. I'm at my in laws right now. You don't think my laws have landline. That gets called nine times a day. i don't think i've heard a landline phone ring in over a decade. It's been awhile for me to every time the phone rings. It's quite jarring. i'm like what is this obscure sound. I'm hearing in the background. Nope it's just the phone ringing but anyway let's see if it ends. Do you want to how many you to answer. It live on air i should. I don't wanna move the mike. Because i'm on stand up ashley's coming in now. Just this is such par for the course of help. I suck at dating. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. How many rings does that landline half. It goes for like twelve times. The voice mail. Yeah you know what of the old days where you would hear your voice mail played like you had the phone would ring and then it would go to voicemail and then you could hear your voice mail. Those were the days man. I remember those days. Hey so okay. So beyond all of those things. That you're saying throwback appointment was. Was there any other. big news. shared a doctor's appointment all that news is already shared We know the sex of the baby. We've i'm not sure if i've told you that or told people on instagram. That but yeah we know. We found out the sex We had a little moment. Between ashley and i. This was like two weeks ago. Now we're in rhode island and we drove to the place that we're looking to build our home and it's by the water so we sat on these docs and It was actually quite awkward because there was a guy on a boat staring at us because we definitely were not allowed on those docs but it got sent in an email form which is so 2021 where we found out the sex of our baby via email very anti-climactic but still technologies crazy these days so we had a moment and we sat down with lois and open the email and found out the sex of our kid which is pretty crazy. Now it's much more real. And what is that. A gender of the kid while we're just trying to we're trying to figure out how to tell people on social media. We told our families so they know you trying to figure out how you can make a quick buck on social media by sharing possibly will say but It's it's crazy man. It's exciting and The you know the ultrasound was pretty. The first time that i felt like i said really connected to our baby and i didn't cry but i could definitely feel myself overwhelmed with emotion which may be really happy because that was the first time that's happened. I felt more emotional seeing the ultrasound of our baby today. More so than when i found out we were pregnant. And i think it's just becoming more and more real seeing you know literally so the baby was like moving around you know and you know the legs kicking and and you could see hands and the head and you could see the mouth moving. It was it was pretty. And then you know you're watching all this while simultaneously hearing your child's heartbe and It was cool man. would you be. Would you be equally as excited more or less excited if it was a baby of the opposite sex or whatever. The baby's sex is i would be equal. I'm very indifferent about the sex of our baby. Ashley has made it known that she would say you know she'd love either a boy or girl but she would prefer girl. I'm very different So as long as the baby is healthy. i've always wanted boy and a girl So i i don't think i'd be. I don't think my motion would change at all. So needless to say this is not the last time you guys will be getting an ultrasound together for. Obviously you're going to get more with this for this practice. Yeah yeah but i'm telling you definitely markets after this. I hope so. I mean the problem is ashley is still having pretty bad pregnancy. Up to this point where. She's sick constantly. did she threw up. She had macaroni and cheese yesterday. Like one o'clock in the afternoon because she was really hungry dude. Five minutes later she puked all backup. It was disgusting. This might sound really ignorant of me. But i kind of would like dig being pregnant for nine months. You know you can kind of get away with just about anything you want. You can eat anything you on. You can like far puke wherever you want like you get a lotta liberties for being pregnant lady or walking around the house. Yeah but i also feel like you just explained like liberties of of a guy. The things that we i feel like you and i as a guy we can kind of far anywhere we could be disgusting and socially acceptable. I guess the only thing. I can really compare it to is when you get like really sick or something like you have a flu and it kind of knocks on your but it's so nice to like just have an excuse to lay in bed all day and watch movies and eat crap because it's like i'm sick so i'm just gonna do this until i feel better. I guess pregnancy. I would imagine that on steroids and for nine months instead of five days. I find myself eating worse. Because she's eating way worse so when she sends me to mcdonald's because she's craven cheeseburger like well. I might as well get the big mac meal. You know. I mean. I'm here and so but the problem is like one day. It's mcdonald's the next day it's taco bell and then we're making macaroni cheese at home. And i haven't had greens and eight days and like. Oh god i'm i'm just not in the best shape of my life. She's going to lose ten pounds in one day. And you're going to take a year to get the ten pounds that you're gonna gain off a thousand percent but everything is good. I appreciate you asking and Yeah i want you to share the baby right now. That's the reason i'm asking jarrett sex. The baby three to one. Say i can't say i didn't. Unfortunately where are you right now in the world. I'm somewhere in utah. So are you driving are you. Are you with kaelin. What are you doing driving around for. Nice hike this morning for sunrise. I saw a nice natural hot spring up the mountains here in utah. I am Oh i fly back to la today. And then i fly back to utah tomorrow and then i'm driving to montana to hang up my brother for a week before we go to new york for a couple of days so when you fly out to la you leave your van in a safe spot. I hope i'm just gonna park it at the airport and come back for it because it's all going to be like a day. I think so that makes sense but then so and i are flying to new york. She really wants to go to the. Us open so we're gonna go see the us open in new york next week or week and a half or whatever it is and then they'll be cool for you too. Yeah i mean. I'm not a big tennis fan. But i'll gladly go there to support her interests and then from there. We're going to fly to greece. And then go to italy for like a week and a half or two weeks so that'll be like our first. Well it'd be my first time in europe and a long time obviously because a cova did but It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. I know italy like might kinda shut down again. So i'm a little skeptical of the trip but getting hit pretty hard with delta right now. Which socks but hopefully you guys are still to go and stay safe and do grease. Oh my god. I'm so jealous. If you guys are able to go to greece we. I dream of santa rini tour going. I just feel a little guilty. Like i know that cova did like the fact that there's like so many cases coming up again and like yeah we're vaccinated but it just. I still feel like a little bit of guilt. Travelling to europe at the moment. I don't think it should at all. I mean a lot of these places. I mean especially places like greece or even italy accent. A lot of the you know tourism is the one that brings in money. I mean it's you know one day we're all gonna die so like there's don't feel guilty about taking a week and a half vacation with your girlfriend. Yeah no i know. You're but i just can't help a little bit but yeah that's what we're doing so nothing nothing host podcast on your own by the way next week. I don't know if i told you that. I don't think anyone that yet but we'll see. Oh okay well. That sucks because you're the true talent behind this. I just kind of time. We all know it's true. Let's get into a couple of hot topics before we move into our guest. This is from the new york. Post headline frisky. Couple spotted having naked morning. Sex on cliff during lockdown dean. We all know this was kayla. They took quote sex on the beach to new heights and australian couple are going viral after. There's body getting frisky on a cliff. It during lockdown just just thought it was a little levity given the times and the new restrictions photographs. Scott robinson told the news. He was the one who took these picks. He took them from the water. While swimming quote he says see lots of wildlife but never here up on the cliffs so the resulting pick for so. Is this legal. Can you take pictures of people having sex publicly. i was gonna say that's messed up. I would be pissed off. I was the couple. i mean. Granted like yeah. You're having sex outside so it's like you kind of get what's coming to you but like who just takes a picture people banging and then go ahead go ahead and like publishes it to the news outlets that's pretty great so goes on the resulting pick which robinson posted in the private facebook group shows the mug naked couple going at it halfway up a coastal cliff right under the noses of obvious sightseers standing atop the bluff. These people are insane in the incumbent. Caption the photon judge. Jokingly pondered whether they're s- extra circular activities were considered quote outdoor recreation or outdoor exercise while. He's a real. He's real joker. That wants to be a stand up. Comedian the photographer. also referenced. Australia's renewed lockdown restrictions. Would stipulate that new south wales residents cannot leave their government areas except to exercise or engage in other essential activities. I mean this is kind of essential. I think sex is essential and all right quick. Some nice quick sidebar. Is it buck naked. Or but it okay. I always thought it was bought naked but in the article it is spelled b. Uck dash naked. So maybe that's like an australian thing. Yeah i don't know 'cause you know maybe bucks like a like a like a buck because they're naked. Why wouldn't be like moose naked or something. I don't know. I'm currently drinking coffee out of a monkey cup so why would be mucky naked there monkey. They're you know they're naked to. That's a good point jared whereas speaking of Buck naked where it was the weirdest place that you nationally have ever been buck naked together. Ooh the weirdest like the most bizarre not out of the whole. That's a great question. I feel like you probably have a better answer than me. We haven't really. We never did it in a public place. I guess man. I'm so lame probably just in the living room you know so in the apartment. You know getting frisky in in the non bedroom environment and you know we. We stay down the living room and did some things and had a good time. And now i tell the tale on help. I suck a data that were baby. Haven was conceived. No baby haven was conceived Actually baby haven was conceived. I don't know if i should say this. Yeah come on say in her parents house in her parents bedroom. No god that would be I don't think i'd ever be able to look at our kid the same way again. If that happened it was down in the guest room. It would've been cool if it was their bedroom. Because then it would be like ashley was conceived there and now your guys conceive there. Yeah no that's disgusting. Where's the weirdest place you in ceylan have ever been frisky. Whoa that's a really personal question. Who brought this guy off. The i don't know we're pretty. We're kind of in the same vein as you guys. Probably somewhere in the living room. I go to obey if i if people had to pull like if we pulled all suck army and said who do you think is more adventuresome their sex life dean calin or ashley jared. I feel like you guys would win in a landslide. Yeah maybe we just give off that vibe. I don't know. I feel like all all that. All the oddities weirdness when it comes to like fun locations when you're doing it like that i feel like that's something you do as a kit up until you're like twenty three twenty four twenty five. I think he's going to grow out of it at some point. Yeah because then you start pulling hamstrings and your back. It's tight and you're like this is just so stupid. what are we doing. Let's go in the bedroom. We can have much more flexibility in there. I would say i'm assuming that the weirdest or most obscure place that you guys have ever would be the van. Oh yeah yep. That's probably not wrong again. I just yeah i guess i do ever. I mean whatever. We're open books but like just kind of feels a little weird talking about this. This whole thing is we're talking about it. I could see not killer getting upset but like you know. She's a christian woman she's pure. I mean we don't have to go into details here. It's just like yeah. You know maybe guys have had overnight dates in the in the van a fancy together. We will like two years so i guess it's bound bound to touch each other's privately a little bit at some time. The van would probably be the weird spot there. Maybe like another weird one. But i can't seem to think of it right now but in my entire life. I don't know like i said i did it. Maybe i did weird things when i was like a kid like a teenager but i haven't done anything anything really weird time. One time. i got a black eye from doing the damn thing as they say. I thought we were being. We're down in a basement and there were pipes and like exposed edges of tables and we thought it was a good idea. And then i've like lean down i i forget why but i hit my heart. My is so hard on a pipe and my immediately blew up and it was all dude. It was bloodshot and black and blue for a week afterwards. I had to explain people. What the hell happened to me. And they were like what happened to you. And i just. I walked into a poll. It's a long story so pathetic. Of course as soon as i try something adventurous. It just goes downhill. I think this already on this podcast. But i can't remember. There was a weird phase. I was in college where i wanted people to punch in the face and so i had a crush on this girl. What are you. Brad pitt from fight club. I guess maybe. I had just seen the movie and i was inspired the crush on this girl. She's really pretty begun a few dates. And then we're all this house party together house like just punched me in the face as hard as you can and feels like no. That's weird and do it. And then eventually she started just like punching me in the face. And i was like. I don't know it was really weird. Did this escalate into a frisky situation. Like is there a good ending to this story or did she just punch you in the face. We were like in the middle of a house party and she was like she was like laying on top. Like i was like length lot on my back on the ground and straddling me like fully clothed like not sexual at all and i was just like punch me in the face and it was really weird and then i woke up the next morning. I had this really bad black. I and i was like okay as far as anyone is concerned. That doesn't know how i got this. I got like a sixth street by with a big guy. I kicked his but but he got one lucky punch in so you should start. Yeah i wouldn't say. Those are my proudest moments but it was. You know it was it happened. So it's part of what makes me me. I guess i know in reality. Dean woke up and was like. I'm never drinking again Yeah we do have a great couple of gas coming up from shah's of sunset. We have mike show it and paulina ben cohen. Which of course. Shah's of sunset airs on bravo sunday nights eight. Pm it's in its ninth season And they're gonna be coming up on the podcast right after this quick break. It's crazy how much we have to pay for outdated impersonal healthcare and even crazier that we all just accepted. It's time to face facts. Healthcare is backwards. 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Run have some little bit of fame and men. It was incredible to see what it blew up into becoming again. Yeah the show. The show air and bravo was just in shock like while we found the next big thing over a million people tuned into the show. There were super excited. And before cbs's the season was even over there asking us about a season. To what do you think it is about the show that makes it so successful or has made it so successful. America laxed code to right because what you see on tv was just sitcoms right and and if there was reality tv shows like survivor and that kind of stuff right so when we came on we open the door to our culture. That people knew very little about right. They saw things on the news because of the iran war. Or what would hear about these these models and then here. We are showing a different side. We party we were just like the next guy. Wanna have a good time. The next girl we want to eat drink and party People culture on music our language our food and most importantly our friendship is based around a group of real friends who've up together and you get to see our trials and tribulations and people really liked that kind of stuff so paulina. You're coming into it. Now how has your experience been thus far You know being on show as a sunset. It's been really nice there. We go short but to the point celebrating lavery and honestly tibet overwhelming. It's a lot. It's a lot of drama and it's very hard to come into a group of friends who are so tight and united and super voltage of his business Very much so to the point. Where i i can't even imagine it's literally like in high school. That's like how you're so involved with In like your friends relationships and stuff like that. That's literally how it should be in high school. But yet they are a bunch of you. Know forty fifty year olds and yet it's as if we're in highschool oliver you feel a little bit like an outsider Yes they're definitely not make up. Achier relationships go through that where a girl boyfriend a girlfriend or or people will start dating. Then you enter into their friend group their family and it just feels like sometimes. You're kind of out. You're on the outside looking in. And i feel like so many people go through that. How have you been able to navigate that to try to insert yourself into this new group of people that are so close with the. You know the guy that you're dating at the beginning it was a lot easier. They were very welcoming and very friendly and loving. I think this is n. Took a turn. Some people were very harshly. Say they were there for others. Were not It's talk right. I said to you come into a group whether your boyfriend or girlfriend. And there's there's a click already. I'm so sorry let me. Oh you're fine you know it's funny. That's a second landline has wrong during this podcast. Because i'm currently my in-laws house and as soon as we started the podcast. Their phone's ringing. And then dean area said he hasn't heard a landline and probably fifteen years our gate associated with it. So you know 'cause i hear you girl. Here is addicted to post meets amazon at you. Name it we thirty five packages a day at the door. So i hear you there which wild alluding to anytime you come into a group of friends as as as be partner or boyfriend girlfriend whatever those people already want to not like you because they are so protective of their friend right like what is mikey one. You know who what is all about. Is he trying to use her whatnot. So my friends because we're so tight also felt the same way right so they're protective of make but it's like overboard sometimes so when she saying it's like high school it's like grown adults if i don't bring my partner to a party. There's no reason to be interrogated. Why she's not there right. We all go through trials tribulations. We have fights and you know to spotlight. That is just not you down. You know what i mean. Yes most definitely. Can you share a little bit more about how you guys met each other. So i had a a friend in las vegas that that that i was very close with back when i lived there and we stayed in contact when it moved back to california in you about my divorce. knew that a single endangering. He's like man. You need to find yourself a nice persian jewish go so you can try that and see because i had all these preconceived thoughts of what a persian jewish go was like And he's like when she's really hot. You'll love her and as okay cool. You don't have some fun with her in and it was definitely. I never thought that it would lead to to where we are now. No relationship shown on the first day. And i fell in love with her career from from the second i met her. We talked on the phone for a couple of weeks. That's annoy other exchanged pictures And she has a beautiful voice very sexy voice in Complimenting me very complementing heard. I kind of wanted to get to know her before to date because typically my dates were go out. We hook up and probably won't talk again. We might just hook up again with her because she's persian and jewish. I wanted to give her a little more respect So i'm like sushi our first date and on the way to the sushi so i think you know what i'm really in the mood for and i'm thinking myself dirty thoughts like what she's taco bell. What was yeah. let's go have taco bill best. But i i in la. I was asked rare and he didn't want to tell me she's liyan. Yeah so we gotta talk a bell. And i'm like all right. I'm a big baller at taco bell. Everything on the menu and i had one dollars industrial. Can i get one double decker nobie and we sat down and mike. You know you wanna try to stop. She was now vegan and we started talking. She nibbled under the taco. While i just scarf down all this talk oh built and we sat down for like three hours. Actually wow yes. It was wild man to the point. Where the the security guard came over was a lot of fun. Like you know you're at taco bell right. That's what he was trying to insinuate snapped out of that trance because we just were so focused on each other and three years later. We're still together. I know you guys are about to close taco bell down. It's pretty awesome. Paulina i know that you have two beautiful children and a lot of people ask us when they should tell you. Know if they're if they're single mom or a single dad they go on dates. When should they bring up kids. When should that conversation happen because some people are a little hesitant to bring it up early because they don't wanna scare someone way but also they want to be real and authentic and be true to themselves. so how. how did you navigate that. I would say right off the bat. You should mention it. I'm just. I'm like. I'm very straightforward right off the bat. I told i told my. I have two kids. It's funny when i. I sent him a picture with me and my it was my son at the time he thought it's like my niece or some or my nephew species so as you and mesa mila in the jacuzzi. Yeah is right just jeter. Yes the how cute that your niece. No hans okay. Cool and you have a daughter. She goes. well now. I have two kids might. Oh no way then. The next picture was enter daughter. Oh okay i guess we're just gonna have some fun just you know. Call it that. I think it's just better to be straightforward. Someone's gonna get scared and that's not worsen trio. Yeah but my gets out. It sounds like you. You weren't scared necessarily what you were still little taken aback by but you were obviously at the end of the day. Care with everything you know. At the time. It wasn't ideal situation. You know because as a young guy got a divorce and wanted to have fun. I really didn't want to take on more responsible than i needed to. And i really didn't think much of it. you know. She just got a divorce. I just got one have a good time and we'll see where it goes realistically. That's not an ideal situation for anyone. I assure it's hard right now. I mean oh you have kids gray. you know. It's unless the unless both of you had children and you come to the brady bunch senate makes right ara sometimes but after a first date i was like whatever. Okay she has kids will figure it out because again you. I didn't even understand their responsibilities. It's gonna take to to help. Raise kids they were five and shoes so their babies wrong. Yeah so. I didn't meet mason for for several months and militias only two. So she's like okay you know she's not going to remember much of it and we all went and had lunch and i remember before i got there. I stopped to get her toy. Because i wanted to make a good impression so i got him a bubble toy. Still have that. I'm stupid because they didn't realize. How big is freaking bubble. Toy was a hand. she's trying to like hold. This blow bubbles but just she had. She loved it because there's like dumbo or something. I don't remember it was. Was it unicorn. So it was cute. And i want brownie points with paulina end with media. Really she data. Cpa in hollywood also so now that you guys have been together three years as talks. Have you guys having your own kids. Yes yes yeah. Yeah we went to a fertility doctor just to make sure that i that i can have children that she can have children that. Everything's okay because i'm getting a little bit older. I'm forty two right and everything's working fine and the doctor said that you guys are good to go and you must just have sexual what he say he sees. Funniest thing did say have sex. He's like sap sexual encounters. Wow you just made that sound. Sell out. Sent out amazing. How when people try to make something sound more elegant or sophisticated so much sex. That's it say a must have sexual encounters. Whoa and then you have three days with a woman's ovulating is working under fragile. You lazy Just went through it. My wife is fifteen weeks pregnant and thank you very much and so we tried for seven months and like the pressure is just like oh. Yeah it's like okay. We've got to have sex rate now like three times today to tomorrow. And i'm like oh god i'm not a young man anymore. This is not as fun as it used to be. And you you you got to perform know it's like one hundred percent it's hard. It's hard other be nights where it was like. Yeah you're just like okay. We gotta keep going. Because i'm having a mental block right now we're with you it's It's hard yeah. That's a lot of sexual encounters you have to perform right. It's not just ask you got to enjoy it. We'll have this. Podcast is called hell by suck dating. So i have to ask you pauline mike. Who's sucks at dating. More thousand percent thousand. Oh really surprised to hear that now now now now now i'm dating. I've just really bad relationships right. Yes exactly what to say. You're very very very good looking guys. You know you understand Ugly so i have to. Have you know some all. Yeah you're not handsome at all. Sorry my game was on point. You know so but hours a taco bill made. It was very charming now. I know and i was a show of brought you every taco burrito. Talk mike if i look if i look half as good as you when i'm forty two i'll be very happy i'm thirty. Oh wow young dude. Enjoy thirty eight. Yeah i mean jared thirty two Yeah going on thirty three. Get up there Well mike you so much polling. Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. Everybody who's listening right now. Of course please go watch already do. Because it's in its ninth season shahs of sunset which is courses on bravo sunday at eight. 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Are we shovel. Wait sundays only on ethics. Get the channel or the app. There is no escaping art. Everybody welcome back to help. I suck at dating. Mark is here with us. He is going to Hopefully read emails. And we'll see if we can't answer them for you guys. They are both anonymous suspicious. perhaps or could be. This one's a quickie. I joined hinge. Have going out on a date with one guy. Is it appropriate to ask. If he's going out with anyone else nelson the second date or is that to suit way too soon. It's a thousand percent appropriate. You should ask him whenever you ask right away if you want i mean i guess it's fine to ask but don't don't have expectations of him saying he hasn't he's not going on dates with any other people. After one day you could ask for the sake of information. But don't be like oh. I don't think you should go on dates with anyone else. I think it's dangerous. I think it might up heading for the hills. Because he's gonna think you want more of a commitment from him than he's willing to give even just by asking the question i agree. Let's do this then. She should preface it by saying. Hey i haven't been doing this very long. I'm kind of new to the game. You're the first person i've gone on a date with. Are you dating other people like essentially like. Should i be dating other people from this app. Your break you can go on other dates of people unless you. Let's put a number on this. I say after if you go on a third date with someone and it's been three good dates then you can start enquiring into if they're going on dates with other people because you've been on three. I say after the third day because you go on a first date and you feel things and then you're like okay. that went. Well i wanna go on a second day to see if it goes as well the second time and then you go on another date and then if it goes well enough for third day and you go on the third day after that. I think you can really because we always park has. You've gotta go in three days with one person in order to really know if that's the person you want to pursue or not because for example. My sister went on three dates. Now her husband. I really well second date not as good and she was hesitant to go on a date went on a date went splendidly and now they're married so i would say three dates and after the third day you can start asking like hey. Are you seeing other people. Are you going on dates with other people because then it's getting serious okay. I don't think we've ever said that we say on this podcast all the time. I don't think we've ever said that on this. Podcast first and foremost. I just want to live with that. We definitely have. It's been a. We have sick of all my short term memory losses. It's pretty bad these days. But second of all i don't think it's so binary i think if you're feeling it just do it. You know it's not like after x. Amount of dates asked this question. It's just like if you're curious asked the question. There's no harm in it and you can even say something along the lines that i don't care if you're dating other people i just like i want to know this. I think that's totally legitimate. But just by asking the question i think shows that you care. Okay let's also say this. Let's say she's she's got some growing pains with this new app dating culture thing so let her work out the growing pains and like you know she's gonna have to figure out what works what doesn't work and maybe by asking the question. She can gauge the response and then decide whether it's appropriate to ask that question that soon into dating someone dean. That's where you and i are for okay. Anonymous email us so that they can really find out more about the dating game today because we're so knowledgeable obviously if anonymous asked this this guy that she went on a day with maybe he liked to mark said. He gets a little freaked out true. I just i just a big advocate for speaking your mind. So if that's what you're at the moment go ahead and say what's this. What's that evil smirk. F- over there. Jared oh i know i agree with you. I mean i. I don't agree with you. But i think it's nevada. The second email was that evil. Sure sure sure okay. So i mean anonymous. You got zero ground there because you had one of. I say one thing one of us in the other thing. Marc away so. I guess you could be the breaker here. No i'm with jared. i think you wait rebates. And maybe it's not a number of bass maybe it's an escalation of physicality we bring up another. Can we bring someone else in then. Eastern can you maybe agree with me instead of agreeing with a hana riley anyone anyone. That's on my team. Anyone against me don't chime in but anyone that's on my i agree with you. I'm with you a hundred percent. He's just being eastern don. That's to to all right riley. You're the last one. You're the tiebreaker. We've got four hundred riley's not on. Hana and kendall lana is already posted in the chavis. She is not joining this conversation. Janssen's no that's fine. That's that's fine. She's a little sick. i think he can't speak. Why she jared but candle and kendall kid away. Kendall says i agree. I'll speak your mind. speak your mind. All right majority rule majority right. This is also anonymous also new to the dating game. She says i was married for fifteen years. Just recently dabbling back in the dating. Cnn forty a super busy mom and career woman. So i don't have a ton of free time. I recently started dating someone new and due to both of our busy schedules. We really only get to each other. Maybe once a week in the meantime keep in touch. And i know how important communication is so. I tried to text him. He's a great texter. he never texts me. I any sometimes. When texting evac for hours i worry that. Maybe he's just not that into me. Because i feel like if you were you would make the time to reach out or tell me that. He's thinking about me and my overthinking miss a thousand percent no i do not think you're over thinking this anonymous. Your forty assuming. This gentleman is probably around your age. You are a busy mom. You are a career woman. You're raising your children. You were married for fifteen years now getting back into the dating game. The last thing you want the last thing you need is some guy trying to play the game so to speak. And so if he's not texting you first. He's taking hours to respond as you said. Communication is the most important part of a relationship and if he's not willing to put the time into communicate with you. I don't think you're over thinking. I think this guy might suck Interesting interesting take quick tangent. Quick to angie. i wanna get. I want to gauge your guy's opinion on this it's kind of relevant but not necessarily answer the question. I'm not afraid of many things you know like i. I don't. I don't have any fears. But i will say one thing that i've been thinking about more recently. That i think is a fear of mine is. Let's say god forbid in twenty years killing. And i just decided to break up right all of a sudden i'm fifty and single. I think that is the most tear i know. Anonymous is doing great over there but being fifty single freshly single. Seems like it would be really awful. Do you guys have that fear as well. Am i alone in their thousand percent. I'm i'm almost thirty three. And i think i'm too old for the game like let alone. Something happening. in fifteen years it would be very racking to say the least okay cool. I'm glad i'm glad that we all kind of the same way that mark. I know you're already fifties in eurasia mira at this point but i still appreciate you having input there i would say that With anonymous with anonymous being a bit all there. I just think i think it's a generational thing where it's like is an women of a certain age are just less tech savvy like you know. Teenagers and early. Twenty year olds are glued to their cell phones all the time so if they're not texting you back right away big issue because their phones always in their hand but like older gentleman older women. I feel like there. There may be less inclined to have technology be such a big part of their day to day life. So i don't think it's that big of a red flag going off the assumption that he's also not calling her. You know so. If it is a generational thing i would imagine he would try to call her sometimes and just let him let her know. Hey you want to try to get together especially when you get older as we can all attest to your schedule start becoming busier. Your free time becomes less and less. You really have to plan out things. And so it seems like anonymous over here is reaching out to say. Hey let's what's what are you doing next thursday or what. Are you doing saturday. Whatever and it doesn't seem like guys doing it now granted. I'm making a leap there. Because i'm assuming this but you know there's only so much information we can go off of. What do you guys think martin's funny. It was funny when you mentioned that being the fear of being fifty and single when you brought that up didn't even occur to me that i'm already fifty. There's no danger of Single bandsaw never even entered my head. That's kind of a weird thing about being freshly fifty anyway. I agree with dean speaking for the generation. Xers out there have a lot of friends by age. Who are terrible texters. They will take days to get back to you and may never get back to you. They just they're not good at it. And so i think unless this guy's always on instagram and facebook and all this stuff i'm guessing he's not i think it's probably fine and you're maybe looking for problems that are really there. i think. Just take it easy and relax. And i think it's going to be okay. Well let me ask you this mark because you say i'm assuming the guys that you're talking about are your friends right. Yeah okay. Do you text your wife differently than you. Text your friends for example if your wife reached out would you respond quicker than if a friend reached out. Yes that's my point. I think that if she's reaching out and he's not responding then maybe he isn't as into her as she's hoping interesting. I think i'm good texter. Though is just a little bit intimidated by this phone. In their pocket is kind of a weird thing. I i think unless there are other problems that i think everything's okay but i mean you make a point jerry for sure eastern with your take on this. I feel like you've got some some good input here. I think even with technology barriers. I think that if someone's do they will send a carrier pigeon to get in touch with you like they will do whatever they can do. So i i would be concerned but also come on newly single just just live. It get tried to get out of your head. I know it's a hard thing to do. But i don't know i think that's great advice. No i agree anonymous. You know. I don't think it because you are newly single and and don't put too much stress on finding relationship that quickly. I agree with houston. But i do agree like your new. Newly single your forty or smoking hot like play the field a little bit you know. Go on go on a day to day for a couple of weeks maybe just get them. Wind up figure it all out. Remember that woman that went on one hundred dates not one hundred days but like one hundred. She went on a hundred dates. So maybe anonymous. Hey there you go nice little challenge for yourself. You got the next year so anonymous. Maybe this time next year you can email back on the podcast. Because obviously we'll still airing because we're thriving and you can give us an update on whether you went on one hundred dates in one year. Well that's the big thing too. It's important for you to get texts back in a timely manner. Then that guys probably not for you because even if he's great for you even if you guys are great together whenever he doesn't text you back it's not going to be something that you're fulfilled west so yeah just go more date. I think that's a pretty simple solution. Bought a being bought a boom. Do it for this week's episode. What do you think what do you think. Houston i one thing. Just one quick thing to bring up sira at the end here. so You guys might know that in twenty nineteen. I was the caramel. Corn princess for arclight cinemas. Remember very big deal for me and cinema. Says no more but i haven't been gained. 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I really. i think it's great. Great revolve my life. Around shameless plug. Z. kidding me Eastern iva question for you before we go. Because you're such a big movie guy if you had to choose one movie to show a date so you can even say you go on a date with allison backing your single days when you go to the movies if you choose one movie throughout the entirety of civilization to see to show your day what movie would you go to. I've thought about this before. That movie is who's harry crumb starring. John candy and the reason. Is i think that movie reflects my sense of humor very well. Not a lot of people have seen that movie and if they like it and they're willing to hang out with me afterwards. I think it's going to be a good relationship the movie that's such a good personalized answer. So alison likes that movie without question right. Alison tolerate she. She enjoyed the movie. She has seen it a couple times now and she thinks it's funny but i haven't like committed a memory. It's one of my favorite movies. And i don't know why maybe she doesn't like it but she likes that you like it. Yes yes and she She appreciates like what it means to me. Which is the most important part about it. i think. But that's the movie. I will pick and i think everyone should go out and watch it to mark. What about you wove movie. Would you pick this. Is the some yourself up in a nutshell. This is me. is that what you're saying. Well you could pick whatever movie want. Eastern went that route he wanted to show movie that was very personalized to him so his day or his wife could better understand his sense of humor and and really enjoy things that he wants to enjoy. Or you could say hey. I really think that this is a great romantic movie in. This would get me on a second date which is why i'm bringing her to this movie. It's kinda whatever we whatever way. Wanna take it row. That's a tough one. Because i think who's here chrome would really not a lot of potential dates like if you wanna know me. I think it's probably field of dreams because his family it's baseball and it's time travel and it's just kind of whimsey But i don't know that's going to give me a second date. I think it would Because i think the the person that you bring on the date would love your love for sappy movie. Like field of dreams. I mean my god. When costner's like dad want to catch like. Oh my god just tears niagara falls go well. What was anything to the movie. A same thing she tolerates. She likes a little bit more We haven't seen it play twenty years together. I've seen plenty. But i she's. She likes to. She likes it okay. I'll say that mark user homework for next week. We got seven days until we see you next. It's a it's friday night tonight. Maybe just turned the movie on. Get some of a popcorn dot com caramel. Corn princess starring eastern with eminem. A pull up a chair and just go ahead and watch dreams. I wanted to my daughter's to i. Definitely that's especially go. That's cool jared. What's yours superman vs. Batman spiderman vs batman against snyder. Cut all my god justice league actually so if you guys don't know justice league does acts neider cut came out earlier this year and it was a four hour movie on. Hbo max and ashley watched every minute of that. Four hours with me. And if i already know that she was the one that double down on it i would say. It's a movie that actually. I'll tell you a story that i again. You guys are gonna like slapped me across the face because the stupidity that i am back when ashley and i were just friends In the first few months of our friendship really starting to form. I told her that My favorite movie is the nineteen seventy eight superman. And but i was like but i think you might like the second one better because there's a little bit more of a love romance involved in the story line and and i told her like my ideal date we were talking about our ideal days and i said oh probably be watching superman or superman to chinese food and junior mints because i love junior mints and she sent me a picture like a week later. She was on her couch by herself. Chinese food junior mints and watching superman too. And it's still her. It's still took me two years before we started dating so as you can see. I know the stupidity is like that moment was something that will always just like. Wow you are just an incredible human being and it was cool. How'd did you say. Wow that looks like fun enjoy. that's i mean. Honestly that was in the midst of the confusion. Between ashley. I between us like our friends are more than friends like everybody who knew us at that point was like hey you guys know you guys like feel like boyfriend girlfriend. This is kind of weird and so it was always like i was. I was in love with her bag. Then and just couldn't bring myself to get out of my dumbness. So that was like you know and then i would respond and say like how awesome she is and how much i care for and like. Oh my god. This is so much this is awesome and so like. It's not that hard to believe. That ashley was a little confused back. Then but yeah. That was cool. So i move. You'd be the one thousand nine hundred acres superman because one. I think it's a movie that females enjoy as well because it is like this christopher reeve one is not that hard to look at when he's in the blue suit my god what a stud and then also has that romance and that magical element that you know. A lot of people cannot get behind. Good answer dean. What about you. I think i've talked about this on the podcast. Awhile ago that killing and i tried to watch that movie acura the like the anime movie from the late eighties. And i'll be honest. I hadn't seen in a while. I remember loving it. When i was a kid a teenager and caitlyn and i tried watching it and i think she fell asleep like twenty minutes into it so i would say that movie because it was like a child lavars mine but it didn't really go over all that walford kaylin i so but then again like it's a great movie it just some slow moments in it and so like i can see why someone to fall asleep like there are moments where i was kind of even getting a little bored butts other than that i would say maybe like you all have these really great answers I would say maybe only gosh get out of here. sorry. I'm getting a phone call. I would say maybe a how to train. Your dragon is a really good one. Is there no movie. That i feel like you. It would be like two thousand one space odyssey. Something that like is crazy. I love interstellar and caitlin has set up a nice little like last year for my birthday. Kielland said if i go home. Theater in the spare bedroom and put on interstellar for us and we watch that on and it was really good again. It's another great movie but there is a semi slow moments. I think our attention spans are dwindling down every single year in the the plot development. If it doesn't happen fast enough we kind of get over it. But what about into the wild. The guy gets in a van and heads up to alaska find his corpse later. And yeah yeah. We're actually talking. That movie was just on the bachelor party with kayla ankle and his he lived in alaska for a long time. And we're talking about alexander supertramp and he was gone. Alaska everyone hates alexander supertramp like he was so unprepared. I made so many foolish decisions. And it's so interesting to think about because like we all look at him as like a really interesting kind of like a heroic figure but people alaska don't really seem to like them all that money. Yeah that's very interesting. I was a huge into the wild van. When that movie came out i was. I saw two times at theaters. I read the book. I was fascinated by alexander supertramp. We'll i'll tell you what mark's got his homework all all think of a better movie for you guys to share next week and then We'll all come back full circle and share all of our experiences. I guess but that was gonna do it for this week's episode of help by second day you guys. I really appreciate the listeners joining tuning in and joining us this week. The shahs of sunset cast members. Mike and paulina. Thank you so much for joining us as well. Be sure to check out their show. 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