35 Burst results for "Khanna"
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
The Major Questions Doctrine
"Yeah, yeah. General Clement, when I read the D.C. circuit's opinion, which is a two one opinion. I read that after I read your petition for shirt before I wrote my Washington Post column, they seem to treat the Supreme Court new precedent on administrative law the way that the national marine fisheries service treated the comment. It was like a potemkin village notice and comment here. 90% of the notice and comment responses that don't do this, you'll kill us and the national marine fisheries service just dismissed them. Well, the D.C. circuit took a look at what the Supreme Court has been saying about administrative law and they said, we are fully aware of that, but this isn't that. And I said, oh my gosh, this is exactly that. I mean, isn't that your reaction? This is exactly what the major questions doctrine or other changes. Maybe they just need a two by four to get it right. Well, sometimes the court has to give an unmistakable message to the courts of appeals before they'll listen. You know, I had a case last term completely different area of the law. But for years and years and years, the Supreme Court had basically been saying, we've moved away from our lemon test in the establishment clause context. And last term, the court got frustrated with lower courts not getting the message and just made it unmistakably clear in the case involving coach Kennedy. And I think we may need something else in the administrative law area.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
The Merits of "chevron Deference"
"Welcome back, America. I'm guilty here and thank you for joining me this morning. Now I'm about to talk about Chevron deference and my steeler fans friends think that means there's a line at the gas station like under Jimmy Carter. That's not what it is, but you need to understand Chevron deference and you and to understand why a new court filing in loper bright enterprises versus raimondo may finally lead to what we need in this country, which is a checking in of the administrative state. It's been filed by the former solicitor general of the United States. Paul Clement, who joins me now. General Clement, welcome to the Hugh Hewitt show. Great to talk to you. It's great to be with you. You know, I'm very happy to talk about that. You are a friend of Carol plant lebao and she'd been telling me for years. How can you not know Paul Clement? You know, ruxley, you know, Ted Olson, you knew chuck Cooper and, you know, ten stars. I just never run across and he's too young. So am I correct you've argued more than a hundred Supreme Court's arguments thus far? That's right here. I have argued more than a hundred cases, quite amazing to me. That is so fabulous. And I have personally recommended this man to people when they are looking for Supreme Court litigators because you don't want to send in the local council actually to target before the Supreme Court. This case of loper bright though, caught my eye, Paul Clement, because I teach con law and I try and explain Chevron deference and even law students eyes glaze over, but it can't be an issue for the administrative conference. It can't be an issue for administrative lawyers and professors. It matters to every small business in American carrying great burdens of regulation. Will you explain what Chevron deference is and then what loper bright is going to try and do I delight it to. So the thing about Chevron at least that makes me so kind of concerned about it is you and I have a lawsuit and we disagree about the meaning of a statute. The court is ultimately going to have to figure out which one of us is right. And there's no tie breaker. They have to do all the work and they have to get to a point where they just give their best impression as to what the statute means. But if instead of having a legal dispute with you, I have a legal dispute with a federal government agency, then instead of the courts having to get the statute just right. And figure out what's the best reading of the statute. They essentially get to look at it and unless the statute is clearly in my favor. Then basically the courts will defer to the government.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
A Wisconsin Old Fashion
"Any of your colleagues on the slut committee accompany you to Taiwan? Representative ro Khanna and Jake auchincloss were there at we overlapped in terms of our trips and we did some joint meetings, which was great to have a bipartisan meeting. We did one meeting in particular with Morse Chang, the founder of TSMC, the world semiconductor superpower, 91 years old. That was a fascinating meeting. We talked about economic and tech issues. You know, one final thing I'd highlight you because it often gets lost in our agenda. We need an economic and trade agenda with Taiwan. The security piece is more obvious, but we're making little progress on a free trade agreement with Taiwan. I think that's essential. It's the only G 7 country that doesn't have a double taxation agreement with Taiwan, which is a huge disincentive for Taiwanese investment in the United States because it's effectively taxed, not twice, but three times and it makes no economic sense for them to invest money in the United States. So there's all sorts of things we could do on the economic side that would further enhance our partnership with Taiwan. And oh, by the way, the time we need to make great whisky, if that's something you're interested in, kavalan, I would highly recommend it. And you can use it in a Wisconsin old fashioned. So many things to love about Wisconsin. What in the world is a triangle fashion? Is that like a shape drinking beer? What is that? With some cheese in it that Wisconsin old fashion. Someone's got to send me the recipe for that. Instead of an orange garnish, it's just a cheese curd garnish. That's a cheese curd. By the
WCPT 820
"khanna" Discussed on WCPT 820
"For the hour Stewart and Venice Florida, you are on the earth representative Khanna. Thank you. Thank you both for the great work and congressman. I do hope you do run for the Senate. With democracy on the fence, I hope this doesn't sound too trivial. But with all this talk about social security, I'm going to retire at CPA and I remembered in 83 social security was made partially taxable by the Reagan administration. And at the time, there was only for higher incomes, but it was never indexed for inflation. Then in the 90s, the Clinton administration actually made the taxation even higher and never changed the indexing. And now what I'm seeing is lower and middle income people are paying checks on social security. Relative focus on benefits. I'm wondering, is there any discussion at all about bringing an indexing this tax thing, which has not been indexed since 1983 when it was an active and it's now affecting low and middle income taxpayers quite extremely? And if I could jump in here, congressman, I got an email about four or 5 months ago from freedom works. Suggesting that the Republicans should champion the issue of ending income taxes on social security benefits. Which I thought was interesting. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on all this. Well, I'm going to build it. And income taxes on working class middle class folks on social security benefits and a start to that would be passing John Lawrence and social security act, which is introduced that has over 200 co sponsors. One of my big frustrations the last Congress is we did get it for a vote. They were both increased social security benefits. It would exempt some of the working class vlogs from social security taxes. It would fix the windfall exemption provision which does it allow teachers and firefighters to get all their social security benefits if they had a previous job. There were a few front liners who blocked the vote on this bill. I believe we have to pass this after a vote on its probably one of the biggest things that the president can run on in 2024. Craig and crestview, Florida
WCPT 820
"khanna" Discussed on WCPT 820
"Okay, Jeremiah and Cole port, Pennsylvania. You're on the earth representative Khanna. Hey, congressman. If you remember during the 2016 presidential election, it was nothing, but Hillary's emails killers emails. On January 6th, the day of the insurrection, the Secret Service, and I believe some other entities deleted all their text messages. So I want to know if you know what's the latest with that? Is there anything that can be done with that? And why isn't this as big of a deal as Hillary's email flow? I think it's more important than Hillary Davis. I agree with you. I mean, the Hillary email was manufactured. Into a story. And unfortunately, very effectively by Donald Trump who took something that really wasn't an issue and made it out to be a big scandal. And the lesson of that was not anything to do with Hillary Clinton's email. Or substance, but was the propaganda machine of the Republican Party. And how we can counter that. Here you have an actual show where text messages were deleted and raptors were deleted in the question is what were they trying to hide? And you have, I think, the Justice Department needs to look into that. They say they're looking into that. And this needs to be a significant part of their investigation. Congressman ro Khanna is with us for the
Mark Levin
Ro Khanna: Could Republicans Vote for Hakeem Jeffries?
"This is my great concern I'm not saying it's going to happen but if you go down this road you can't be sure what will happen Here's ro Khanna He's a Democrat from Silicon Valley And he was on CNN yesterday Cut to go Well we are going forward There wasn't a single defection in the vote for Hakeem Jeffries Of course a historic vote The plan and an answer 'cause you're good stalinists Let's be honest about that That's why there's never a defection Can't have a defection But anyway go ahead The lead a party in the House of Representatives And we're very optimistic about our leadership Here's the sense if there are 5 6 Republicans want to come across the vote Hakeem speaker we'd be thrilled People have floated this idea well what about a moderate Republican There have to be in my view at least two conditions that are met First they can't hold this country hostage with the debt ceiling or government shutdowns And second they can't have subpoena power to do frivolous investigations against the president Unless they agree to those two terms I don't think a single Democrat is going to vote for any Republican And yet there are Republicans who might agree to that
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
States Ban TikTok From Government Devices
"Let's go back to China. Governor Larry Hogan last week banned ByteDance, TikTok, and some Russian apps as well. Do you prove of what he did? I understand what he did. I mean, I'm open to that as a solution. Now, if there are ways that we can ensure that the data is in the United States and not going to CCP, that's a possibility. Look, I actually thought president Trump had a good idea on this, which is to get them to sell TikTok to an American company. And ideally, if we could do that, that seems to be the best solution because there are a lot of people on TikTok. There are millions of people and just stopping at cold turkey. I don't think is going to work. But the question is, how do we make sure that data isn't getting to the Chinese government?
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
Who Will Serve on the China Select Committee?
"I listen to you, Tom Maria barram, that you like this election. Would you be willing to serve on the China select committee? Absolutely. I'd be honored to serve and I've expressed that interest to Hakeem Jeffries, of course, who is our leader. And I know other Democrats, by the way, I don't want to reveal their names publicly because they may not want to be eager to serve on that committee. Look, I think my Gallagher's appointment gives a confidence to a lot of us on the other side that that is not going to be just a partisan thing. I mean, Gallagher came to Congress in part to tackle the China challenge. He's not looking at this from a cycle or a presidency. He's looking at this as a generational challenge. And we need, we've done significant things in this country. It's been because both parties have agreed. And this is an area that should not be politicized. I
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
How Much Did Jack Dorsey Know About Twitter Shadowbanning?
"Three questions left and then let's move to China. First one is Jack Dorsey testified as did other Twitter people. Do you have to concern that they were not forthcoming in that testimony, whether intentionally or because they simply didn't know it was going on in the company? I'd be very surprised if Jack was not honest. I know Jack Dorsey much better than I know Elon Musk. I've known him for years, not well, but being from Silicon Valley, I've known him. He is actually always cared about free speech. It seems to me that some of the things actually happening in that company were happening without his knowledge. So I doubt that he would have intentionally been misleading. Now whether they're parts of his testimony that he would correct in light of evidence that has come out that may very well be possible.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
Is the Media Covering the Twitter Files?
"Can you, can you find readily congressman mainstream legacy media coverage of the Twitter files? Because I can't. You know, I have not been invited actually to discuss this that much. I've been seeing that has covered. So actually, Aaron brunette had a SegWit on exactly this issue and I've been on CNN. A number of times. But you raised something, I think, that is an important issue. And that is that in this country, we're having two different conversations. And half the country is focused on the Twitter files and whether speech was suppressed and that's the biggest story. The other half of the country doesn't even know the conversation is going on. And this is a challenge. Whatever your political persuasion, if we're not even having the same conversation in the country, that is a huge issue, because you're just not being exposed to what the other side is thinking. It is one of the reasons that I go on Fox News. It's one of the reasons I come on shows like yours, which I've always done very fair. Because what's the point if you're just talking to people who happen to agree with you or share your own worldview? Yeah,
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
"khanna" Discussed on The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
"Hi, it's you here. Thank you for listening to podcasts today. This is the time of year when you can make a huge difference in the life of a boy or girl whose mom or dad or both parents are incarcerated. This time of year you can support angel tree. That's a ministry of prison fellowship with which I've been associated for two decades. It's a wonderful organization. $25 helps one child, 250 helps ten child connect with their incarcerated parents. Angel tree takes over when she give the money. They facilitate the connection between mom and dad in jail, and they get that child at present a gift and a Bible. And they remind that kid that their mom or dad loves them and is thinking of them on Christmas. Visit Hewitt dot com and click the angel tree banner today and enjoy today's highly concentrated hue. A tingling to really take our money welcome back, America, I'm Hugh Hewitt inside the beltway on 1212 22. Joined by congressman roe conna, his back after our last conversation with an April. Congressman, welcome back. Good to have you. Good to be back on the program. Now I already played for the audience. Your interview with Maria bartiromo yesterday. So I'm not going to cover the same ground that you covered with her or at least in the same detail. And I know in our April interview, we covered the Hunter Biden story and I've known for a long time you thought the censorship there was bad. We covered China as well. I want to dive into a couple of different aspects of that if I can and start with Twitter and then move to China. On Twitter, do you think the stories we've seen thus far? The Twitter files is the tip of an iceberg the beginning of avalanche or are they going to be one ops in your view? I think there is a systematic issue, obviously at Twitter and the issue is that they have been suspending accounts and content without transparency. Now, let's be clear, this has happened both to southern towns of the right and accounts to the left. And I think that the important thing is to have full transparency to understand why they are making some of these decisions. And also to have a recourse or appeal in the future, which is why I've spoken out. Now, congressman, I want people to remember, you are a Yale law grad, you're a federal court clerk and O Melbourne lawyer. You actually know when you talk about the First Amendment that that what that means for a company protected by section two 30, it's not state action. It's getting awfully close. Are you concerned that members of the government met with Twitter on the subject of what they would and would not moderate and how they would do so? Well, I think we have to have all the facts. And we should have transparency, but here's the thing. A lot of the easy attacks on my op-ed or what I say is, oh, Twitter is a private actor. The First Amendment doesn't apply thinking that I haven't thought of that obvious point. The reality is technically Twitter isn't bound by the First Amendment. But they have a huge say over public discourse. And the point is that they should look to the First Amendment principles for deciding how to run their public as fair. Look, techies are great. I love them. I represent Silicon Valley, but they've been thinking about the balance of free speech for maybe ten years, 15 years. There are jurists in this country who have been thinking about these issues for 200 years. And we have the greatest First Amendment to exclude in the history of humanity. So why wouldn't you look to those principles as you structure a public square? I think that is exactly the right answer. Even without getting into whether or not it's government action per se, we have a public forum a limited public forum and a non public form set of rules that Twitter could have done any online people could adopt and they actually make sense, don't they? Congressman? They do. I mean, look, this is sort of blood sweat and tears. The jurisprudence of our country. And by the way, a lot of the strongest First Amendment principles, as you know, you came about during the civil rights movement because it was actually frankly racist in the south that were appealing to defamation laws to shut down civil rights activism. That's when the another time that strong force amendment was defendant in this country during the Vietnam protests because a lot of people were trying to shut those down by an appeal to defamation. And so the history actually of the First Amendment in this country has been in the history that has protected social activism. And I'm just shocked that I have gotten so much criticism from the left for standing up for the principles that justice Brennan articulated so beautifully in New York Times Sullivan. Brendan certainly wasn't a person of the left. But whether you're left or right, the one thing that you should be for in this country is the constitution of the United States of America because it is still the greatest document in the history of the world on how to structure a liberal democracy. And if we lose that, if we lose the north star of our founding principles, then we really, that's really the biggest threat to American democracy. No, I want the audience to know. This is an interview not a debate. So I'm not going to say to congressman Connor, oh, Bren was a lefty, and I'm not going to say, I think that the right was more censored than the left. I'm not going to argue. I just want to hear his point of view..
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
Democrat Ro Khanna on Twitter
"Twitter, do you think the stories we've seen thus far? The Twitter files is the tip of an iceberg the beginning of avalanche or are they going to be one ops in your view? I think there is a systematic issue, obviously at Twitter and the issue is that they have been suspending accounts and content without transparency. Now, let's be clear, this has happened both to southern towns of the right and accounts to the left. And I think that the important thing is to have full transparency to understand why they are making some of these decisions. And also to have a recourse or appeal in the future, which is why I've spoken out. Now, congressman, I want people to remember, you are a Yale law grad, you're a federal court clerk and O Melbourne lawyer. You actually know when you talk about the First Amendment that that what that means for a company protected by section two 30, it's not state action. It's getting awfully close. Are you concerned that members of the government met with Twitter on the subject of what they would and would not moderate and how they would do so? Well, I think we have to have all the facts. And we should have transparency, but here's the thing. A lot of the easy attacks on my op-ed or what I say is, oh, Twitter is a private actor. The First Amendment doesn't apply thinking that I haven't thought of that obvious point. The reality is technically Twitter isn't bound by the First Amendment. But they have a huge say over public discourse. And the point is that they should look to the First Amendment principles for deciding how to run their public as fair.
The Dan Bongino Show
Blake Masters: Dems Surrendered Our Energy Independence
"It's really shocking how in a purple maybe red tinge state like Arizona a guy like Mark Kelly felt comfortable taking that vote and then really I mean the inflation reduction I forget the name it was just ridiculous The name is not even worth entertaining but it was really a package of subsidies for a bunch of Green New Deal boondoggles when taxpayers have already gotten burned by this under Obama cylindra and her one these other companies that took our money and basically ran with it But their excuses for gas prices Mark Kelly and the Democrats Blake are really at this point just embarrassing I have a clip I'm going to play later on on wasting any time with you but ro Khanna they have every excuse in the book The Russians did it The Saudis did it They're pretty soon it'll be like the Canadians there'd be like that movie Canadian bacon They just every excuse in the book But Blake we're floating on a sea of petrochemicals here in the United States from the Marcellus play to the Permian Basin to Alaska And yet right in front of our face they don't want to develop our own oil Mark Kelly would rather us go kiss the ass of the Saudis and begged them like dogs for their oil This is what you're gonna get if you vote for 6 more years of this guy Oh that's right They completely surrendered our energy independence and they sent the price of gas from $2 to $6 Now they want a metal because it's back down to $5 because Biden is selling out oil from our strategic reserve including to our enemies like China But no what is Dan what do these geniuses think was going to happen when you declare war on oil and gas In a country powered by gas You think that might send the cost of energy up
Mark Levin
California State Rep. Ro Khanna: 'The Border Is Secure'
"Representative ro Khanna Democrat California represents Silicon Valley What about this border as John right By the way John Roberts is a great reporter That whole team is terrific Just terrific Cut 12 go Is the border secure I recognize their voices Senator Manchin and representing queer Look I think we can do more to secure the border but what that looks like It's secure but we can make it secure I'm sorry congressman how is it secure when 2.35 million people by the 31st of this month will have come across the border illegally Well there are more border agents down there in my view by the numbers than we're even there under president Obama or president Bush So but why is it not secure Let's have an honest conversation One of the reasons is you have employers here saying come come work for us Congressman congressman You have employers who say that doesn't answer the question Why don't you have a wall up there and why isn't the wall Built and why isn't the border secure
WCPT 820
"khanna" Discussed on WCPT 820
"Itself Congressman ro Khanna taking your calls for the hour and our progressive town hall meeting on the first hour of anything goes Friday picking up your calls and Martin in anza California You are on the earth congressman Connor Good morning Tom good morning Congressman I was calling Tommy brought up a great example of people coming back from World War II from the military and getting the GI Bill Well they laid their lives on the line And I was wondering if there's been any discussion of people getting relief for student debt by joining the peace corps or community service the CCC's are doing anything like that Martin I appreciate your sense that people who want to serve in the community should serve and we should make those opportunities available The president's build back better has paid climate civilian core we can expand AmeriCorps But I don't think we ought to be linking people's student debt to having them do that especially when folks are in their late 20s They're in their jobs and their careers starting a family I just think we have to eliminate this extraordinary burden that many of them have Especially for working class and middle class kids But in terms of encouraging young people to do public service I'm all for that If they're in college I think and we're making college free then I'm for making some attendance requirement some basic grade point requirements so that you're going to class like you can't keep repeating the classes There has to be some accountability And in Chicago you're on the air with representative Connor I'm wondering if the Democrats will consider reviewing the tax on social security that was implemented by Reagan A little corporation is not paying any taxes It would be the right thing to do with inflation who would really help And it would rally the base for 2022 And weirdly enough this is something that is being pitched right now by freedom works And so you've got some Republicans talking about this So this comes up now very frequently on these calls And I've brought it up with a number of progressive colleagues And I'm inclined to that we should do something because there isn't a bill yet John Larson has a great bill on social security that would increase benefits And scrap the cap But this is another part that really should be part of that bill And it worked to see if we can get it added Call it reversing the Reagan tax increase Marty and Wickham wixe Michigan Marty you're on the air with representative Connor Hi gentlemen great to talk to you My question is about a strategy to achieve climate legislation It seems to me we've seen this movie before with Joe Manchin where he side tracked the push for voting rights legislation with his so called bipartisan approach that went nowhere So rather than try to trust him to put together a bipartisan climate Bill which I don't think will go anywhere as he been asked if he would just write his own preferred version of a streamlined reconciliation bill with some climate and maybe some tax and prescription drug components that has even explicitly asked if he would do that Yes he has And I have asked him but The White House has asked him I think he's not going to want to make the first move and that's part of the challenge And so I've been saying to The White House just see what he wants and you put out the proposal even if it's behind the scenes to get to it yes But I share your skepticism on the bipartisanship because look if there were Tencent Republican senators the one that's been 500 plus $1 billion in climate I'd be thrilled I just don't see that's where they are And I don't want to waste weeks And then end up in the same place So my view is hopefully this can elicit the what it is that senator rancher wants And then The White House can see if they can put something together that meets those terms so that we can have a legacy defining climate Bill The two we just have 30 seconds of the break here The two big pieces of legislation that got blown up build back better and the voting rights Is there any possibility of finding one or two Republicans who might go along with either one of those and bringing them back to the Senate before the election Well I think we need more than one or two because if we're going to go in the regulation.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
Why We Need to Fund, and Not Defund the Police
"Katie king and the San Jose spotlight June 26th, 2020, congressman Khanna, explaining that police officers are a necessary part of society, Khan has said defunding the police didn't mean disbanding law enforcement altogether. But the representatives said it was time to examine whether funding is being appropriately distributed among police and other social services like education and affordable housing. Okay, that's two years ago, right after George Floyd, two years later, we have rising crime terrible, terrible crime in the inner city. Don't we need more funding for the police police as opposed to redistributing their funding? Yes, we do. At a meeting with the police chiefs in my district in San Jose and Sunnyvale and Fremont, about a year ago, we've got I'm sure you've read some of these terrible smash and break in crime smash and grab prime. And they said, we need more police. And I agree with that. And I think we need to uphold the rule of law. Not for ruining a young person's life if they break into a Walgreens, but I'm also not for you can do that and not have accountability and do that three, four times. And not face prosecution.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
The Meaning of Racial, Education Equity
"I got to argue now with you about education, racial and gender equity. Let's start. What do you mean by equity Congress? And I'll let you explain it rather than quote the book. I mean, inequality of opportunity to have a dignified life. And my view of the country is one of the big problems is there's $11 trillion that has piled up in my district because of innovation, entrepreneurship, globalization, at the same time, we ship jobs, offshore, to China, millions of them. We ship jobs, south of the border, because of nafta. And a lot of communities in this country rural communities, communities in the Midwest, black and brown communities have been left out and their kids are being told to leave their hometowns, they don't have opportunity, economic opportunity. And so we've got to bring new economic opportunity to people and places left out.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
Why We Should See the World as It Is, Not as It Should Be
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
CNN+ Struggles to Lure Viewers in Its Early Days
"You know, CNN plus has failed miserably. They have 10,000 subscribers. Why do you think that is congressman Khanna? Why is CNN plus failed? I think, you know, starting out something new is challenging. I think it's online is still not how we consume news. People still watch television, they listen to talk radio. I was always a new medium. But I think it's too early. It remains to be seen whether they'll succeed. You know, maybe they should hire you, you know? I think the reason they failed is because there's nothing for me to watch. There's absolutely no reason from anyone from the center right to go on there in the way that, for example, CNN used to have crossfire for O'Connor and U had sat down every day. We'd mix it up, but there's none of that and in fact, I think it's the last real news show. The only one I do on TV anymore. I've left NBC. I don't do meet the president anymore. Is Brett bear special report because it's the last honest news program in America. I honestly don't think we have a news media anymore. We have a political society
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
Should the Dollar Be Displaced With Criptocurrency?
"What do you think about just simply saying, no, you may not take your massive market dominance in these other areas and create crypto domination and displace the dollar while you do it. We may have a disagreement here. Look, the United States dollars, 51% of world currency. The cryptocurrency is less than 1%. And the idea of displacing the dollar, I think, is never going to happen. And in our lifetimes, in fact, the new cryptocurrency is the stablecoin are all actually marked to the dollar. And the fed chairs how they said that we may even have a digital cryptocurrency, just to keep in advance with technology.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
The Right, the Left, and the Ideological Bubbles
"Right, now you're a progressive from Silicon Valley. And I've been up there. I've had dinner with Mark Zuckerberg at his house. I'm one of the token conserves that show up there and talk to people up there occasionally. And I think dignity in a digital age may be the best case for the progressive agenda that I've read. I'm not persuaded. But I'm curious if the, if you agree with me, I think that the overwhelming oppression of the left in Silicon Valley means conformity and thinking that it drives out center right points of view. Do you agree with me that the mind think up there is a deep blue bubble? Yeah, I believe in this country. We have a problem that we're all in our bubbles. And that we're unwilling in certain cases to subject our ideas to scrutiny. I think that's a problem. At times on the left, I think it's a problem also on the right. So, you know, I think this cancel culture and goes, in my view both ways. You know, there was my Alma mater. Yale law school, I was embarrassed that there were students yelling down the speaker because they had a conservative point of view. On the other hand, the idea that, you know, you don't read what they Toni Morrison's beloved, who was one of the great American writers, objectively taking from faulkner. I think that's also silly.
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
How Relevant Is the Hunter Biden Story?
"Every book has a compound fracture in it. And since I read books closely, I always look for the compound fracture, and then I step on it, congressman, yours is on page one. Here's on page one 97, I quote. It's about Hunter Biden. When you talk, although I am convinced there was no truth to the salacious allegation Hunter Biden's emails themselves referencing his father were of public interest. Of course they were, but you don't believe any of the salacious allegations about Hunter Biden still well, first let me say how I took a pretty unpopular position. I did that before the election and saying that those things shouldn't have been censored that the idea even that the New York Post links were being taken down was wrong that in a robust First Amendment tradition like ours, people in the public sphere that their information should be public. And I didn't think that the personal life of Hunter Biden was relevant, but I thought that the information that in any way was about a President Biden was
Philosophy Bites
"khanna" Discussed on Philosophy Bites
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Philosophy Bites
"khanna" Discussed on Philosophy Bites
"Deliberative forums online as connect Congress is doing, Michael nebel is a student of habermas and Ohio State has really put these extraordinary groups together. And if people actually felt like, yes, their member of Congress is listening or yes, this action is influencing something, then maybe they're engagement online also would be more constructive and less from a perspective of cynicism and apathy. So I'm really interested because I engage on Twitter and obviously through podcasting. And I somewhat naively think of myself as an equal voice. In amongst others, but I've been accused of using my platform with quite a large number of followers in the philosophy world. If I engage with somebody with whom I disagree, they sometimes say, well, you should be softer with somebody who's obviously not got the power that you have. It looks like equals having a conversation, but it's actually somebody doing it in public with a lot more people on their side it looks like. And I'm just a small fry in another world. I'm just a tiny fish in another world where somebody else might do that to me. I think the aspiration of having conversations truly as equals where no one has any position of prestige is very difficult, certainly when you factor in race and gender and class and position. Now maybe you would come in as an expert, but even if you were an expert, the idea of other people having an equal conversation, which is the ideal form of deliberation is very difficult. But that doesn't mean that it's not the ideal that we can orient towards. Why does this matter practically? One, it makes us aware that just the absolute defense saying, well, it's free speech. And so if that speech is online, of course, we need to allow it online, is in a moral defense. And that's what a lot of these tech platforms rely on. But they don't consider, well, maybe that speech is alienating people from a different race or a different religion or a different class. And maybe it's not really creating equality of exchange of ideas, or maybe people who are quiet are being drowned out. Or maybe people who don't just want to engage in self promotion aren't aren't being drowned out just because we can't ever create the ideal conditions of speech doesn't mean that we don't at least think about them. And it's a convenient truth for social media companies to think that the ideal conditions of speech are ones that happen to align with profit maximization. And what I'm saying is maybe they ought to just be a little more reflective on what they're doing. It takes two to tango here though, doesn't it? Because it's not just the platforms that produce this speech, it's the speakers. And there must be moral virtues as it were that good speakers have in the public sphere. And how can you make it more likely that people have those fruitful conversations as citizens in a democracy in this amazing public sphere that's come in my lifetime and transformed the way I work and think, how can we encourage a kind of civility that will allow a genuine conversation and not just an entrenchment of polarized views? It's a wonderful point because it's not just how we structure the digital public sphere. But it's how we participate in it. And of course, that comes to education and how we're raised. And in many cases, we're raised with all of these values from preschool about how we participate in physical life in conversation. We're told to raise your.
Philosophy Bites
"khanna" Discussed on Philosophy Bites
"That I don't think can be regulated that has to be something that is more organic because if you regulate it, that's basically government becoming an arbiter of truth. But I do think that that will emerge over time or at least I'm hopeful it will emerge. So Michael sent out talked about what he described as the SkyBox of football grounds. It's typical of public spaces now that rich people are in a big box glass box, not mixing with poorer people who are jostling, getting their drinks downstairs. And we lack these spaces where everybody can interact. It looked like the digital age was going to provide us with that. But actually, it's almost a cliche that we filter out the things we don't want to hear, and we find our own little bubbles. The discourse tends to happen within groups of people who already agree with each other, confirming their prejudices. That certainly has been one legitimate critique. You know, one interesting study I saw is that if you are exposed to an alternative viewpoint from someone you don't know, then you're likely to dig into your own view and it could actually make you even more stubborn about your point of view. But if you're exposed to an alternate point of view from a friend, then you may be reflective and consider and stop and think. For example, one very small reform that someone at these social media sites could consider is what if you were exposed in your own network to an interesting alternative perspective from a friend and that was incentivized to engage with that or what if thoughtful exchange online was amplified as much as they amplify things that appeal to the lowest common denominator and have many follows. I'm not saying any of these particular ideas are the silver bullets. But at least they should be hiring people to think about how to promote better public discourse. One of the things I was struck by is there were a lot of working class people actually on these sites, both Facebook and Twitter. It's not just the affluent. So the opportunity is there to have a discourse..
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"khanna" Discussed on Philosophy Bites
"The problem is that giving more people access to having a voice is of course not sufficient and we've seen a lot of the harms of public discourse as well. So I want to concentrate on this notion of the public sphere. This doesn't just mean public communication. It's got a particular connotation when used in this context, I think. Yeah, so obviously it's most famously habermas's paper in 1962 where he coins this idea of the public sphere and it's just this idea that there is conversation as I understand it that isn't directed by the government, but that can influence the government. Hybridized in the paper has this beautiful line where he says newspapers had a commercial basis, but weren't fully commercialized. I think by that he meant that these papers, yes, they had to make money, but they had some sense of obligation to their stakeholders in democracy. And of course, it took a long time to get to that point. I mean, erasmus famously criticizes the printing press and for almost a hundred years you have pamphlets that aren't exactly the ideal of great discourse. The challenge now with these social media companies is one they don't embrace their role as stakeholders in a democracy. They're seeing themselves principally as profit maximizers, attention maximizers. I don't think they have even started to really think about, well, what is their obligation to democratic society and the type of conversations that they're allowing on their platforms? Well, that's assuming they're not allowed to just be neutral platforms, publishers, obviously, historically have been very selective about what they publish, and also have been held responsible many times for having published things which were against the law, but the claim often made in relation to Silicon Valley is these big companies are absolutely neutral, and in a sense, that is the marketplace of ideas. I think that's just wrong. I mean, I don't think anyone looking at a Facebook or a Twitter would think that they're just the same as pipes in the ground or wires. They're obviously making editorial decisions, content decisions. Now, they have less control than a traditional publisher because you're literally talking about millions of pieces of content. But even if you're a strong believer in the First Amendment, you could say, certainly if there's speech on these platforms that is directly inciting violence, like we saw prior to January 6th, where people were talking about specifically killing lawmakers and of specific time and specific place that you shouldn't have broad immunity for that kind of speech, which currently section two 30 in American law provides..
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"khanna" Discussed on Philosophy Bites
"How should the digital space be regulated? How should the likes of Twitter and Facebook be controlled to ensure the proper functioning of democracy? Unlike most academic philosophers, ro Khanna has a rather direct way of influencing policy. He's a Democrat member of the House of Representatives. He's also the author of dignity in a digital age. Ro Khanna, welcome to philosophy bites. I'm a fan and it's an honor to be odd. So the topic we're going to talk about today is dignity in the digital age. Could you just say briefly what you mean by dignity here? Sure. Dignity just means that every person has intrinsic worth. And if you believe that every person has intrinsic worth, then the political project requires us to consider what that entails, both from a economic perspective in terms of respecting their worth as part of an economy and from a citizenship perspective in terms of respecting every person's worth in terms of their citizenship. So why is that a special issue in the digital age? Well, of course, this has been an age old issue, but the question becomes, if you believe on an economic perspective that part of respecting people's worth economically is to give them the opportunity for productive work to give them the opportunity to produce and create wealth, that it's not sufficient just to have redistribution in providing people with benefits, then we have to think very strategically about a lot of people who have been totally left out of the modern wealth generation engine and particularly places that have been left out. And this is particularly apparent to me from Silicon Valley, which has produced $11 trillion of wealth, 25 million digital jobs, but these are highly concentrated in so many people are anxious and don't know if they or their kids will have access to that. And then from a citizenship perspective, of course, there are so many issues, whether a person really can participate as an equal in the public sphere. I mean, we have a concept of the town hall. We have concepts of civility. Obviously people can critique the town hall as being exclusive..
WCPT 820
"khanna" Discussed on WCPT 820
"Do a progressive national town hall meeting Take calls from all across the country for the vice chair of the congressional progressive caucus Congressman ro Khanna represents California's 17th district Khan Academy dot house dot gov is his website He could tweet him at ro Khanna Congressman welcome back What's on your mind today and what's happening in D.C. Thanks Tom Well yesterday was an echo let me just somebody needs to turn off the computer there in your office You've got some audio coming back at you All right there we go The yesterday was January 6th And of course we were on a vigils in terms of making sure that something like that never happened again Making sure that the Voting Rights Act That has to pass if we have any hope of preserving the idea that every person has one vote and I encourage that the president gave a strong speech on voting rights the strongest I've heard him I know he and Kamala Harris are going down to Atlanta to talk about it But that is going to be the highest priority for January And then on Bill bag better we have to salvage something We can't just say well man should not for this let's not get anything done So the progressive caucus has been meeting to say what are our priorities that can get Manchin in a number of other senators on board Yeah My biggest fear I wrote about this in my daily rant today over at Harvard report is that the we have three pieces of voting rights legislation that the big one.
The Dork Forest
"khanna" Discussed on The Dork Forest
"What are you singing? Just because of is annunciation. But I love the covers when somebody else does a Bob Dylan song. I'm like, listen to those lyrics. So that's interesting. Yeah, so some people have a thing about his voice, but what I was trying to argue earlier is he clearly can sing anything he wants. He's shown it. Like he said, a different voice. With albums, they often put the lyrics in their liner notes. Yeah, they do. And you can see them all every single song he's ever written is on Bob Dylan dot com. You can read them all if you want, and they come across well on the page. For me, as a singer, his approach to phrasing is like nobody else really. It comes from listening to people like Sinatra and the great crooners. I sing a line to my daughter in standing in the doorway all the time, and I'm going to biff it right now, but it's because I think it's one of those things where if I know the whole verse, I can do it. Yeah, but he basically says something like yesterday, everything was moving too fast. Today, it's moving too slow. And he sings the fast part, super fast. And it's just a slow part. Really labored. And so he gives this character to these lines. It's almost meta. He's a very clever singer. Right. When he dials down on a line or two, he really gives him everything he can in the moment. It gives them this rich character, which I appreciate as well. So all this to say, I think, I hope I put sort of the bug in your ear to go. You really did. This has been a fascinating hour of about an artist that I have always enjoyed in passing. And so this sort of deep dive into it is I love it. I love it where it's not and yeah, I got information, but I also got some fun stories and a sort of a new glimpse of the guy himself. So rangers were listening here to kind of. Let's get it right. Beach. And the name of your podcast is creative control. There are two K's because of some lyric because of some song. What is it? That is a song by a band called hot snakes that I coughed the title from the show from and was using their theme music with quasi permission. Okay. But I don't use it very much anymore. I happen to I often just use a little bed track from the artist I'm talking to you, but I don't know if you know that you wouldn't have noticed this. Jackie, but that song by hot snakes creative control was featured on your episode because you didn't have any music I could use. There's no one. And so there's just Mike Rick Berg singing the dark forest theme song that you are. So but it's at vishka, but it's about VI, SH. It gotta spell KH, a edit a, it'll be in the notes. I just did vicious podcasts. You could do a little crossover if you like. Thanks so much for doing the show. Absolutely pleasure, Jackie. Thank you so much for asking me. It really is an honor. Thank you. You're welcome and rangers..
The Dork Forest
"khanna" Discussed on The Dork Forest
"I want to say, the song something by the time the George route, he did the Warren Zevon thing. I saw him, play two shows. Right. In Detroit and I want to say it was like 2006, let's say, could be wrong about nose. Maybe O four. I saw him do two shows. He was doing three shows at a venue in Detroit. And I went the first night and that day, the governor declared it in Michigan. Bob Seger day. So Dylan did a bob chief in the encore and everyone went nuts. Right. Again, I don't think he'd done him and his band had done it before since they just did it that night. And then the next night, my wife happened to be her sales job, roderick to Detroit, so we agreed we would go, we got to meet up and see the second show. And I says to my wife, I says, you know what's going to happen here tonight? I bet that either Jack White of the white stripes or M and M will join Bob Dylan tonight. And I was sort of joking that we were those guys. Yeah, those guys lived there. I'd seen the white stripes due Dillon songs live, I knew a new Jack White loved him. So the second night's rolling along great show on core who steps out onto the stage Jack White. What song do they do of Dylan's none? They do a white stripe song. Oh my gosh, Dylan is singing the song ball and biscuit by the white stripes with Jack White playing guitar. I don't even know if Jack's saying, I don't think he did. So what you're Jack White, you know, you're probably 20 odd years old. Right. Not only are you singing with Bob Dylan, he has chosen to say one of your songs. Yeah. Come on. So they have this like close relationship. Is there bootlegs of some of this stuff? I've looked for some of it and I feel like I encountered some shoddy YouTube recording of sure, a ball and biscuit. I think there is that on the Bob Dylan site that Warren Zevon and George Harrison stuff, I was alluding to, it might still be up. But at the time, the Bob Dylan dot com site would post live cool alive MP3s. Okay. Of such things. So I heard them do something and I heard that. I had that somewhere, probably saved. Yeah, that's super fun. Yeah, so he has done covers. In fact, prior to this album rough and rowdy ways, he did.
The Dork Forest
"khanna" Discussed on The Dork Forest
"Right? Right. He is still alive. He's still he just turned, I'm insulted. No, I'm he turned 80 this past may as we're speaking. Okay. And was off the road because of the pandemic for the longest time in his life. Other than when he actually took deliberate breaks in the 60s and the 70s, I should say. But since like the 80s, he's just been touring, I don't know, 200 nonstop. Nonstop. Yeah. So this is why I've seen him so much, and I've seen him in Detroit and Fargo and across Canada and also across Ontario, which I don't live in anymore. Right. But anyway, he did just recently do we're not post COVID. We're not post pandemic, but he is among the people that took the risk of going out and doing a better post lockdown. That's right. Yeah. So he did, yeah, just like you. You've been touring as well. So people are doing it, and it's making me upset because I want to see them. And people don't want to get a breakthrough. I don't want to get a breakthrough with my children and they're just now gut. They got their first vaccines here in Canada. So hopefully there. And then we've got this variance. And yeah, I don't want it. I just, I'm not ready yet to go get it myself. Because seems to be impacting people, even if you're whatever. So what if you're vaccinated? You could get super sick. So I boosted and stuff. So yeah, which has made me not cocky. Still, but I was in Florida this last like four days ago and I don't know if you know what happened in Florida, but clearly COVID did not. Because there aren't any there's very few masks. There's no mask man. I mean, there's a pile of themes. So it's a leadership thing that's Ron DeSantis. Is that the guy down there? That's it. That's it. It is trouble from the top down. So if you could fix the top, there will be there will be some help. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So you haven't been to see him until he was playing that's right. And he's been playing the United States. He hasn't come up here to Canada. If he did, he probably would come to Ontario, and I always thought when we moved in late 2019, well, if Dylan's playing, I'll probably try to make a trip of it. You know, if he's doing a bunch of shows, but I almost, yeah, I talked to some people on my show who are like, I haven't talked to anyone who's gone, but they were going. And so I should check in with them. But people are posting clips. Dylan quit smoking in the last couple of years, few years. He's been off the road. The clips tell the tale. His singing is fantastic. He's hitting notes, it's great. I always like his people get mad or upset about his singing voice and his later years, but I think so the thing is with Dylan, I'm I come from punk rock and I think Dylan is a punk rocker. When I talk about the fact that he's like the recordings just a day, man. Yeah. Whatever the song wants to be, he wants to be. That's an element of relaxation and looseness and borderline nihilism that I can appreciate. When he attacks the songs, he's got this growl to it where he's kind of matured into the kind of blues singer that inspired him when he was a kid. And so he's become, to me, this beautiful singer..
The Dork Forest
"khanna" Discussed on The Dork Forest
"And there's a copy of John Wesley Harding, which came out in 68, 69 era there. And so is that a murderous? Who's John Leslie? John Wesley, sorry, I came out at 67. Yeah, he might have been a murderer. He's a mythic folk character. Sure. Okay. There's also a modern day singer who goes by John Wesley Harding, actually. Oh, wow, all right. So anyway, that record also opened a whole universe to me about Dylan that I didn't recognize. Because I had the greatest hits. I knew of him. I knew he collaborated a big U2 fan still when I was a kid. He was on rattle on hom, co wrote a song with Bono and the edge. Okay. And yeah, anyway, so he was peripheral, but then I got that John Wesley Harding record and the band sound. This record Jackie soon so you know is considered like a harbinger of folk rock. Really like, oh, this is not just focus, not just, you know, and this is 67. This is yeah, I'm just making stuff up as I go, and I hope that you don't have to be an expert. I like the enthusiasm. I like articulation. For years, I thought it was 68, but I recently and I had my Internet's all off here, or I'd look it up. But in recent years, you know, sometimes you just have it fixed in your head that something's one thing and then you read one thing a different thing and you're like, oh, the thing I've been thinking for 20 years is a year off. So it's technically 67. I always thought I was 68. John obviously Harding another gateway into wow. This is more than the greatest hits guy. This is a guy that I got to explore all in. Then I just got all in. I first saw him in Toronto in the year 2000 was then called the Molson amphitheater. And then I was obsessed already. So I was like, was it a big, is it a big venue? Yeah, that's an outdoor amphitheater. So it's one of those. It was a 70 80,000 kind of horse. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Probably 15 to 25,000 maybe. Okay, so big, but it was huge. Yeah, it was big. Sort of like an outdoor. Is it like grassy? Yeah. Okay. You got the stage, and then you got maybe like a pit area. Rows and rows of seats and then you have like a grassy embankment for the cheap, the cheap seats, if you will. And so that was the show I saw. And then I subsequently have seen him like 40 times 2000. That's like twice a year. I'll grab this if I can get it off the wall. This is a poster. It's not coming off. Oh, there we go. Are you in a hotel room?.
The Dork Forest
"khanna" Discussed on The Dork Forest
"Still is. It hasn't gone anywhere. You said was. Yeah, yeah, presidents. We're not doing it. And you're like, I wish I took a shower. And I was like, you look like your dork. You look like that rugged Bob Dylan. Yeah. That's fine. You got that vibe going. It's nice. You have that. That's true. You're right. Thank you. Thank you for the compliment. I was feeling self conscious now I feel good. Now you feel good because you're it's a good-looking Bob Dylan, because that dude absolutely always kind of a goonie looking dude. But I don't know why do you think about Bob Dylan, by the way? Except for that he was was he a Rolling Stone? He was not in the room. He had a song called like a Rolling Stone. That was it. That was it? No, nothing about bob. You know nothing. I know that my brother Phil really likes him. Now, I know some of your brothers seem cool and at least one of them based on our conversation. One of them I might not jive with is Phil a cool brother. Oh, Phil's a cool brother. He's been on the dark forest twice. He has talked about hitchhiking. Which he and Eddie also talked about. Lord of the Rings. Oh. So those were his two organs. One of the rings is basically an epic hitchhiking tail, isn't it? It's really doing. Truly, truly an epic hitch I can tell that he is. He couldn't be more interested. He wants to come back on and talk about fly fishing. My brother Russ has been on talking about the hallmark channel. My sister Darla has been on talking about sort of preparing a quick meals. She enjoys she joins fancy meals done quickly. That's who doesn't. I mean, isn't that what fast food is? I mean, when you think about it, one of the sandwiches is pretty elaborate. It's got three buns, two patties. Properly. Yeah, it would take it would probably take you know 45 minutes and here we live in a society where you get it in three minutes. It's true. It's just out and it's been nuked into a gray color that who doesn't want any part of that. Absolutely. Yes. What do you know about Bob Dylan? Well, you can't see them, but to my to my left. We're on a video chat thing here. I have every single Bob Dylan record and box set. All of them are here. Is there redundancy? No, not no, not in the Bob Dylan realm. Okay. For instance, I have four Beatles box sets of that are ostensibly the same. The mono box set, and then I have the stereo box set. I have them in both CD and vinyl formats. So you're not wrong to ask this is a valid question. It's what you're telling me. But there's duplication in the sense that they'll put out a bootleg series. Bob Dylan will and it'll be kind of an alternate version of an album we've all come to know and love. But I mean, it's really alternate. It's like outtakes and the original album might be 12 songs. The bootleg series will be like 80 songs. So it's not really, it's like a whole other universe. Right, right. So yeah, I have everything. And then again, everything on CD with Dylan. I became I found out about Bob Dylan. When I was a little boy because I would read a lot about The Beatles. Okay..
RNZ: The Detail
"khanna" Discussed on RNZ: The Detail
"That just didn't seem to be going anywhere and this again comes back to what i thought was some of the brutal honesty and in a in this report and the the the ice report the feelings of too much bureaucracy was again reverberated in the subsequent financial reports. That came out so you know. For example a ice was signed to meetings. We nearly forty people from other agencies were in discussions. It's a lot of people try to get sailing in the same direction. I can feel shivers running down the spine exactly trying to get an efficient mazing down with any available in totally say with thirty two different real meeting forms that is attended most of which were unproductive and resulted in conflicting information and instructions being delivered to ice so these were people telling us how to run the event rather than getting together and saying you know. This is how we should run. The event is that as a consequence of of having a lot of public money put into intervenes. There are a lot of people who feel like they and maybe they may be justifiably. Feel like they have In vehement and this and feel like they should have some kind of say and then all of a sudden they're white too mini shifts in the kitchen khanna thing totally Of course you're going to need local people on the ground everywhere and This is where You know auckland..
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