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49: The Blind Beggar of Baghdad

Myths, Legends, and Fairytales of India

32:43 min | 1 year ago

49: The Blind Beggar of Baghdad

"What about your boy Kevin Stage? The host of here's the thing and Co host of the love. Our I'm a black man with a black, white and black children, and you may want to learn more about being black in America if you do. Here's some podcast to help you out during this crazy crazy time of civil unrest, you're interested in the black experience coats wish. Wish and the nod. If you're interested in race and racism, there's United States of anxiety and the stakes. If you're interested in activism, you got come through with Rebecca. Carol and Afro Punk Solution Sessions. If you're interested in time and place checkout sixteen nineteen guys. There's plenty of resources here. Just start listening to people like me. Start understanding star changing good luck, God bless. To the fairy tales of India, where we bring to you, stories of kings and Queens. Princess and thin. Wizards and These are classic teams, of Adventure Magic Ngoma from India Brought to you in a new of Dodd by. Study. Known more. VISIT MYTHS AND LEGENDS INDIA DOT COM. The blind beggar of Baghdad. This story from one thousand and One nights tells of hidden treasure and magical powers. The blind beggar of Baghdad is a warning about how greed can drive you mad. The Khalif Han. Al-Rasheed sat in his palace. Wondering if there was anything left in the world that could possibly give him a few hours of amusement. Jaffer. Grand. vizier his old and tried friend suddenly appeared before him. Bowing low. He waited as was his duty. dillas Mazda spoke. But. Haroun, al-Rashid. Turned his head at looked at him. And sank back into his former vary posture. Jaffer had something of importance to say to the Khalif. And had no intention of being put off by Neil Silence. So with another low bow in front of the room, he began to speak. Commander of the Faithful. Said He. May I remind your highness off your plan to observe how justices done and order escaped throughout the city. For. This is the you have set apart to devoted to this aim. or H- APPS in fulfilling this duty. May Find Some distraction from the melancholy to which. As I see to my sorry. You are a pre. You are right. Return the Khalif. I had forgotten all about it. Go and change your coat. And I will change mine. A few moments later. The, both reentered the hall. Disguised as foreign merchants and passed through a secret door. Out into the open country. You're. Tuned to what the Euphrates? And crossing the river in a small boat walked through that part of the town, which Lee along the further bank. WITHOUT SEEING ANYTHING TO CALL FOR THEIR INTERFERENCE? Much pleased with a be and order of the city. The Khalif Fan is disease. Meet their way to a bridge which leads straight back to the palace. An elderly crossed it. When they were stopped by an old blind man who begged forums. Khalif gave him a piece of money. And was passing on. Let the blind man seized his hand and held him fast. Charitable Parson. He said. Whoever you may be grunt me yet another prayer. Strike Me I. Beg you one blow. I have dissolved. It's richly. More severe penalty. The Khalif much surprised at this request replied gently. Good man. That which you ask. Is it possible. What would my arms be if I treated you saw? The Khalif much surprised at this request. Reply Gently. Michael Man. That which you ask is impossible. Of what you would my arms be if I treated you so ill. In as he spoke. He began to lose in the grasp of the blind beggar. My Lord. Answered the man. Pardon my baldness and my persistence. Take back your money. Or give me the blue which I crave. And if you knew all you would feel. About the punishment is not attend part of what I dissolve. Moved by these words. And perhaps still more by the fact that he had other business to attend to. Khalif yielded. And struck him lightly on the shoulder. then. He continued his route followed by the blessing of the blind man. When they were out of earshot. He said to the Z.. Speak something very odd. To make that man act. So. I. I should like to find out what is the reason. Go back to him. Tell Him who I am. And all do him to come without fail to the palace tomorrow after the evening prayer. The next day after evening prayer. The Khalif entered the hall and was followed by the. Bringing with him the two men. Of whom we have. Spoken An Thud. With whom you have nothing to do. The all bowed themselves. Before the true. And then the Khalif beat them to rise. And I asked the blind man his name. Bob The law Your Highness Said He. Bob The? Raton Khalif. Your, we of. Asking arms. Yesterday seemed to me so strange. That I almost commanded you then and there to seize from causing such a a public scandal. But I have sent for you to inquire. What was your motive in making such a curious well? When I know the reason. I shall be able to judge whether you can be permitted to continue to practice it for I. cannot help thinking that it sets a very bad example to others. Tell me therefore the whole suit and conceal nothing. I was born a commander of the faithful. In Baghdad. and was left an orphan while I was yet a very young man. For, my parents died within a few days of each other. I had an headed from them small fortune. which I worked hard nine and day to increase. Last. I found myself. The owner of he D- Camel. These I hired out to travelling merchants whom I frequently accompanied on their radius journeys. And, always returned with large profits. One D. I was coming back from Ball Soda. Where I had taken a supply of goods intended for India. And hold it at noon in a lonely bliss, which promised rich pasture for my camels. I was resting in the shade under the tree. When a dovish going on foot towards a ball soda sat down beside me. And I inquired. Whence, he had come and to what he was going. We soon made friends, and after we had asked each other, the usual questions we produce the food we had with us and satisfied are hunger. Why we were eating. The dovish happened to mention that in a spot. Only little. We all from where we were sitting. It was a hidden treasure so great. That if my eighty cameras were loaded. Deal they could carry no more. While we were eating. Dovish happened to mention that in a spot only a little way off from where we were sitting. There was a hidden treasure so great that if my ad camels were loaded. They could carry no more. Hiding please would seem as full as if it had. been touched. At this news. I became almost beside myself with joy and greed and I. I on SMS round the neck of the dovish exclaiming. Could dove-ish. Plainly. The riches of the world are nothing to you. Therefore what uses the knowledge of this treasure to you? Alone on foot. You could carry a wheel or handful. Dan Me we had it is. In high will load my eighty camels with it. And give you one of them as a token of my gratitude. Dulwich saw quite well. What was passing in my mind? He did not show what he thought of my proposal. One day I was coming back from ball soda where I had taken a supply of goods intended for India and halted at noon, inner lonely place, which promised rich pasture for my camels. I was resting in the shade under the tree when Darvish going on foot towards biles sorta sat down beside me. And I inquired Wednesay had come unto what place lease he was going. Soon made friends. And after we had asked each other the usual questions, we produce the food. We had with us and satisfied are hunger. While we were eating. The riche happened to mention that in a spot only a little way off from where we were sitting. Was a hidden treasure. So Great. That, if my eighty cameras were loaded, delay could carry no more. Hiding place would seem as full as it had. been touched. This news. I became almost beside myself with joy and greed. And I on my arms round the neck of the rich exclaiming. All good the riche. I see plainly. RICHES OF THIS WORLD! Thing to you. Ever of what uses this knowledge of this treasure to you? Own and ON FOOT YOU GARY A. Handful. But we've this. And I will load mighty camels with it. And give you one of them as a token of my gratitude. The dovish quite well. What was passing in my mind? But he did not sure what he thought of my proposal. My brother. Unser quietly. As well as I do that, you want behaving unjustly. Before, I reveal to you the secret of the treasure. You must swear that after we have loaded the camels with as much as they can carry, you will give half to me. And let us go on our own race. I think you will see that this is fair. For if you present me with forty cam moves. I on my side will give you the means of buying of thousand more. I could not of course denied that. What did the rich said was? Perfectly reasonable. In spite of that. The taught that the wish would be as rich as I. Was Billable to me. Still there was no us in discussing the matter. Had to accept his conditions are revealed to the end of my life the loss of immense wealth. saw. Led to my camels, these set out together under the guidance off the rich. After walking sometime. We reached. What looked like a valley? But with such a narrow entrance that my cameras could only pass one by one. The little valley or open space. Was Shut up by two mountains, who sides were formed of straight cliffs, which no human being could climb. When we executive between these mountains. The wish stopped. Make your camels lie down in this open space, he said. So that, we can easily lured them. Then we will go to the treasure. I did what I was bid. Rejoined the darvish whom I found trying to kindle the fire out of some dry would. As soon as it was a light. He drew on it a handful of perfumes, and said a few words that I did not understand. And immediately. Hick column of smoke rose high into the air. He separated the smoke into two columns. Pen. I saw a frock. Stood like a pillow between the two mountains. Soon me, Orbin. And a splendid palace appeal within. But commander, of the Faithful. The love of cool taken such possession of my heart. That I could not even stop to examine the riches. Fell upon the first pile of gold within my reach, and began to heap it into a sack, that I brought with me. The dovish likewise set to work, but I soon noticed that he confined himself to collecting precious stones. And fant. I should be wise to follow his example. At length, the cameras were loaded with as much as the could carry, and nothing remained, but to seal up the treasure and go our ways. Or this was done. How ever? The dovish went up to a great golden was putatively chased. Duke from it, a small wooden box, which he hid in the bosom of his dress, merely saying. That it contained a special kind of. You, once more the file to one, the perfume and Mahmud the unknown spell. Rock closed. The next thing was to divide the cameras and to load them with the Treasury. The. Demon of N refilled my soul. What does the riche want with riches like that? I said to myself. He alone has the secret of the treasure. And can always get as much as he warns. A my brother. I exclaimed as soon as I speak. At the moment of our leave-taking. Reflection could mean. Just perhaps new to you. You are the riche, my profession. And live a very quiet life, only getting too good and careless of the things of this world. You'll do not realize the burden that you liepa on yourself when you gather into your hands, such great world, besides the fact that one. who was not accustomed to cameras from his book can manage the stubborn beasts if you are wise. Will Not encumber yourself with more than thought be and. You will find those trouble enough. Right. Replied Darvish. Me Quite well. I confess I had not thought about it. Choose any ten. You like in drive them before you. I selected ten of the best camels. I had got what I wanted. But I had firmed the survey ship so easy to deal with that. I rather regretted. I have not asked for ten more. I looked back. He had only gone a few paces and I called after him. On my brother. I said. I am. Unwilling to part from you without pointing out what I think scarcely grasp. That! Loud expedience of Camus driving is necessary to anybody who intends to keep together a troop of the. In your own interest, I feel sure. You would be much happier if you bursted ten more of them to me. For with my practice, it is all one to me. If I take two. Hundred. S BEFORE The Darvish made new difficulties. And I drove off my ten camels in triumph, who only leaving him with twenty or his share? I now sixty. And anyone might have imagined. I should be content. Commanded of the feet for. It is a problem that says. The mall one has. The mall one once. So was with me. I could not rest as long as one solitary camel remains to the rich. And returning to him. I- redoubled my prayers and breezes and promises of eternal gratitude. To last twenty will in my hands. Up Make good use of them, my brother. The Holy Man I. Remember riches sometimes. How wings if we keep them for ourselves? And the poor are at our gates expressly that we may help them. My eyes were so blinded by gold that I paid no heed to his wife's council. And only looked about something else to grasp. Suddenly I remember the little box of. That the riche had hidden. and which most likely contain the treasure more precious than all the rest. Giving him one long-stem breeze, I observed accidentally. What are you going to do with that little box of meant? It seems hardly worth digging with you. You does well let me have it. And really. WHO HAS GIVEN UP? The world has need Wolf. If, he had only refused my request. But then supposing he had. I should have got possession of it by force. So. Great was the madness that laid hold upon me. However far from refusing it. The rich at once held without saying gracefully. Take my friend. And if there is anything else I can do to make you happy. You must let me know. Directly, the box was in my hands. I wrenched off the cover. As you are soul, will kind. I said L. Me. I pray you what would choose? A most curious and interesting. Reply the leash. If. You apply a little of it to your left eye. You will behold in an instant. All the treasures hidden in the bowels of the earth. But Fair. Lest you touch your right eye with it. Or your site will be destroyed forever. He's woods excited my curiosity to the highest which. Make trial on me I implore you. I cried holding out the box to the division. You will know how to do it better than I. I'm bonding with impatience to test its chums. The wish took the box ahead extended to him. And bidding me shut my left I. Touched chain clearly with the owned -ment. When I opened it again, I saw spread out as it will befall me treasurers of every kind then without number. But us all this time. I had been obliged to keep my right eye closed. which was very fatiguing. I bet the dervish to apply the on meant to that I also. If you insist upon it I, I will do it. On serdarevic. But you must remember what I told you just now. That if it touches your right eye. You will become blind on the spot. Unluckily in spite of my having proved the truth of the riches, words in so many instances. I was firmly convinced that he was now keeping concealed from me some he didn't and precious were chew of the unknown. So I owned a deaf ear to all he said. I brought. I replied. I. See Joe King. It is not natural that the same linemen should have to such exactly opposite effects. It is true wall the same. Unser Darwish And it would be well for you if you believe my word. But I would not to believe. Dazzled by the greed of avarice. It thought that if one I. Chew me riches. The other. I might teach me how to get possession of them. I continued to press the dervish. To anoint my right eye, but this he resolutely declined to do. After having conferred such benefits on you. Said He. Loss, indeed? To Book You such evil. Teen it is to be blind and do not force me to do what you will repent as long as you live. It was a new use. My brother. I said firmly. Pray. Say No more. Do what I ask. You have most generously responded to my vicious up to this time. To not point my recollection of you for a thing of such little consequence. Let, what will happen? I take it on my own head. And will never reproach you. Since you are determined upon it. UNSOLVED WITH CY. There is no use talking. And taking the own meant. He lied some on my right eye. was tight shut. When I tried to open it. Every clouds of darkness floated before me. I was as blind as you see now. After all. Into what a bottomless! Betas has! My lust after gold plunged me. Now that my eyes are closed. The are really opened. I. Know that all my sufferings are caused by myself alone. But good. You. was so kind and Chatterton. At nor the secrets of such laws. Have you nothing? That will give me back sight. Unhappy Man. To the rich. Is Not. My fault that this has befallen you. But. It is a just punishment. The blindness of your heart. Has wrought. The blindness of your heart has the rot the blindness of your body. Yes I have secrets that you have seen in the short time that we have known each other. I have none that will give you back your site. You have proved yourselves unworthy of the riches that were given to you. All have passed into my hands Wednesday will flow into the hands of others less greedy and ungrateful than you. That that we. Said no more. Left. Speechless which shame and confusion. And so Richard. I stood rooted to the spot. Why he collected the eighteen cameras. And proceeded on his way to ball soda. I should soon have been dead of hunger. And misery. If some urgent had not come along the track the phone windy. and kindly brought me back. To. From, rich. I had in one moment. Become a baker. This commander Commander of the faithful is my story. When the blind man had ended. Khalif addressed him. Baba Bella. To. Your sin is Great. Do you have suffered enough. Henceforth. Repentant private. or I will see that enough money is given you. Day by D for All. Your wants. At these words Baba up the luff lung himself at the collapse feet. Had prayed that owner unhappiness. Might his spor Shen forever? You for listening to this awesome story from fair gains of. You can listen to many such stories in English in the and soon in many other languages. To non. Was Empty podcast talking. The story was narrated by shoot Ali Bidu or Berry tens of India and has been reduced by gun stories.

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Ep. - 272 - TIME: THE KALIEF BROWDER STORY

Reality Life with Kate Casey

44:53 min | 10 months ago

Ep. - 272 - TIME: THE KALIEF BROWDER STORY

"Welcome back to another episode of Reality Life with. Casey I hope that you had a great week. I love documentaries. I love Docu series because at their best, they tell the true story of an extraordinary person and this episode I'd like to focus it on Khalif browder. Some of you may have already seen the incredible docu series on Fox called time the Khalif browder story it profiles the life. Life of his sixteen year old, who was arrested and accused of stealing backpack in two thousand ten, when he was on his way home from a party in the Bronx, he wound up spending more than three years in the notorious rikers island jail complex much of it in solitary confinement. Before the charges were dropped, his family went public with this story, and his case has become a cause. Khalif browder was mentally and physically abused by virtually every part of the criminal justice system. He committed suicide in June of two thousand, fifteen, overtaken by the demons he required while serving months in solitary confinement without a conviction or trial to justify his detainment. This six part series was executive produced by Jay Z. who provides his own commentary throughout the series and who met Browder after? He was released from jail in two thousand thirteen. So browder was arrested and charged with Grand Larceny Larceny at sixteen years old, after being falsely fingered for robbing a man of his book bag, committed to rikers island when his family couldn't immediately post. His three thousand dollars bail denied bail later due to a prior conviction for taking joy Reid in a bakery truck after his mother was able to secure the nine hundred dollar bond with the help of a neighbor, he was detained at rikers for one thousand, one hundred seventeen days while awaiting trial, refusing to flee to any charges. He lived in solitary confinement for almost eight hundred of those days. Scheduled for twenty eight court dates, for which he actually appeared in court, fifteen times only to be told each time that his trial would be delayed or continue due to prosecutors, unable to produce a formal case against him, hospitalized once and attempted suicide four times while in jail, he was released on June two thousand thirteen after three years of incarceration when the New York City district, attorney finally gave up. Now some of the most powerful scenes are those where the filmmaker confronts, broaders, attackers and regular islands, showing them the footage of those attacks and making them explain. This is far from just an account of what Khalif routers life was like in jail. It's also indictment of the system that landed him their. Browder two thousand ten arrests has put into context, the discriminatory stop and Frisk practices happening at the time in which a federal judge would later rule unconstitutional. The film also connects his imprisonment than justices of the cash bail system, which jails people not because they are guilty, but because they can't afford to post bond and the torturous insanity of placing teenagers in solitary confinement or working them up with adults to begin with. Khalif browder staff has inspired a number of criminal justice reforms in his wake in two thousand fifteen New York Center city mayor. Bill de Blasios signed a law that established a bill of rights for jail inmates and begin a system of collecting data on the city's jails, including the average bail amount pose on defendants in December of that year courts allowed for a huge settlement that would free hundreds of people from solitary confinement. In May of two thousand sixteen, the city took further steps to ease bail burdens by placing A. Court houses and allowing credit card payments for posting bombs. January, twenty, fifth, two thousand, sixteen president. Barack Obama signed an executive order to ban the solitary confinement of juveniles and federal prisons Obama wrote an OP ED in the Washington Post in which he cited Khalif broaders case writing in two thousand, Thirteen Khalif was released. Having never stood trial. He completed a successful semester at Bronx, community college, but life was a constant struggle to recover from the trauma of. Up alone for twenty three hours a day. One Saturday. He committed suicide at home and he was just twenty two years old. Jesus said right there that Khalif was a prophet. Some of our profits go with tragedy Martin Luther King. It ends tragically. But what comes from it the life, the next iteration alive saved and how this man is moved, culture forward is really incredible, and in an essay published vibe to singer John. Legend wrote New York Failed Khalif. The list of things that went wrong in his case begins with his first encounter with the NYPD whose practice of targeting black teams as well documented the idea being accused of stealing a backpack would lead to his arrest and detention would be absurd if it weren't actually tragic. On May twenty fifth, two, thousand, seventeen, the corner of East One, hundred and eighty first street and prospect avenue in the Bronx was renamed Khalif browder way in his memory I'm so grateful that I had a chance to talk to his brother Akeem. Browder who was a social justice advocate in an agent of change, the Bronx native works to honor the legacy of his brother and mother, Vanita, Browder by working with elected officials, lawyers, doctors, college, students and community based organizations to change laws, policies and regulations that devastate poor communities and families that have been impacted by mass incarceration in solitary confinement and state prisons. He's the founder of shutdown rikers and the Khalif browder foundation. I present you a keen browder. Welcome to the show. I was so taken by your story. your brother's story. Can you kind of just give everybody window into what happened to him? So back in two thousand ten, when Kelly My youngest brother who? was also the the Lhasa docket of my family, but we'll get to that beaten. However Khalifa. Two thousand ten ruins incarcerated Let's let's up crime even locked up and what I want, know the turn to be detained some people take it as You already found guilty when you're incarcerated in New York. You're giving an inmate card center Lakers island whereas in. Jail but when he was accused of his kind of his young age of sixteen, he was accused of stealing backpack on which they charge on that. They gave him originally was robbery in the second. After going to the grand jury and they dropped the charge down to burglary unit third, which is a non violent Seventy accusation It took me felony in which either way only whether it's easy or in a felony. It's a felony which is is. Going to haunt you for the remainder of your life. Probably Understood that one I'm innocent, so this probably wouldn't be something that would last especially the fact that you when you're innocent and you did you. It's almost as though you shouldn't have to fight for freedom, or your innocence or your justice, but covey started learning like many of us in the black and brown community, especially in a poor, black and brown community that that is not something. That comes easily on your innocence. Or Justice and so career when she. was sent 'cause, island. Where he had to quit, his Justice in court, back and forth to court thirty different times. Thirty eight different court hearings in the beginning. It started all with. then. All free agent seven years in jail for allegedly stealing backpack. And steadily as he denied he these accusations, they withdraw the charge to a lesser offense and offer lesser time, which if you didn't do it and you don't want any time and you don't WanNa, take a lesser offense That's just not how, but the the city of new. York knows that is how how they get you to get Plead to take a and they don't want to bring you to trial one. It's expensive to go to trial into if you don't have. The right tools to go to trial like a like in Kelly's stays on keys. They didn't have an actual accuser. They didn't have on or the actual victim. They didn't have an actual evidence. They didn't have an actual book bag. with they had was the brother of A. The brother of gloves victim that. was. Actually robbed up his backpack. who he told his brother before he left for Mexico that it was a black guy. That's still his back. in careens happens to be a black guy in a black community where his brother. Seen a black eye and decided that night that he would. Track him down, wait and find an officer to then accused my black brother of being the black person who stole his book bag. His brother's pathetic. An. Accusation wrong, he he didn't know the time line. He said that it happened in the beginning. He said it was two hours ago. Off from the time that they arrested or stop scully's and approached him then they sent him in two weeks ago and then he said it was two months ago at the precinct when they actually took the full report. So. The the. New didn't have an actual case however. We got another black guy, and he's GonNa do what? Typically happens which is. Leading to the judge, the judge will get him to take a plea regardless if he did it or not, and that happened ninety eight percent of the time. In the city of New York, people take these often without actually being the one. That tape on that did the crime because being in Wake Island? Is Innocents, a death, sentence or something. It's an assault case on others and It's a traumatizing experience all. How leave wasn't the first in my family to be wrongfully incarcerated or incarcerated period You're talking to keen broder and as his older brother. It actually happened to myself I. In in twice actually to Waffle incarcerations where all 'cause I was given, a lawsuit doesn't take away the trauma Meaning when you're wrongfully incarcerated just like my brother. They then Try to give you a lawsuit for not try. They offer you a lawsuit to make up. financial damages which doesn't think towards like the mental and enjoy the the time and so. I mean we're talking about being incarcerated. At sixteen years old. Being sent to rikers, one of the most notorious jails there is in the United States people from next Mon- penitentiaries try to commit suicide before going to. End Because, it's so dangerous. It's so corrupt. It's scary and I in nineteen ninety seven just a few years after. The exonerated five people who they used to call them on central park, five I was there. In Nineteen, ninety seven at fifteen years old. For a wrongful incarceration at the time, though in nineteen, ninety seven and there wasn't. Any black lives matter. There wasn't any abolitionist groups that was fighting for black young young black men to not be seeing as these violent criminals. No, it was actually a movement to make all of America believe that black men are dangerous. They're criminals. They're felons, convicts, and so the thing is that we shared with me was actually A. A! Are Reminders. What is went through because he was actually housed in the housing unit, see seventy four, which is the building that he was in which is the same dilmun that I was in, and then the unit that he was in see seventy, four, five lower. is the actual housing unit that I was in. They have to housing units now. In that one unit two sides, one is the north side and one is the south side That's how they separate and in each housing unit. It's thirty three thirty three detainees. Thirty three. Just like you sitting in cell, and That's the same on the south side is the same housing unit that I was in when I was shot. it was a blood house, meaning the the gang members of the of the blood gain Is House in the south side. while the north side is more for Hispanic. And Spanish Dino on Games Like MS, thirteen king and so I was held on the south side in in nineteen, ninety seven year Khalid being locked up in two thousand and ten is how in the south side. When you were in jail. You're accused of a crime and you are innocent until proven guilty. At least that's what the law was intended to southern innocent until proven guilty. So what happens when you're in prison? You are convicted of a crime whether you. took a plea bargain or you went the trial and they all that trial you're you're convicted of a crime. The two biggest difference between those are one is your accuse. Anyone can be accused of a crime use. Okay, I could I could, or anyone can accuse you, macron and yet the public is so miss in. Mis miseducated uneducated on that one fact that as soon as when you when when the? When they see a show that says like four. They notice her she'll be before a jury of your own peers or your own peers are already thinking when you have handle sewing, and you're in that orange jumpsuit that you are already guilty because you look like a guilty person. We put it all over television shows that we show oranges. Can Black Works show cop? that really I think tormented our communities into thinking that that's the way that things are that black people are just criminals cops that show We are missed educated on this end. That saying is if you did the crime. Or if if you can't do, the crime the time. Don't do the crime well. People are innocent until proven guilty, so we can't say that they actually did the crime. And why should we be torturing people? Just because they did a crime. Anyway, we should be trying to think of ways to rehabilitate and Get that person back to a standard or two standard that makes many law-abiding citizen. And not to forget that he sixteen years old, which in many states considered you know? Obviously, it's juvenile. He's in this jail where there's this deep seated cultural violence where these inmates are suffering broken jaws orbital bones. Broken noses long fractures lacerations. He has to wash his own clothes with soap and a metal bucket, causing rusty on his clothes. HE NEEDS MONEY to get snacks. He's sixteen years old I. Want you to think about sixteen year olds that we all know in our own lives who are picking up their backpacks and going to school. When schools open, and then they spend time with friends. He's sixteen years old. And he's innocent and he is living in these conditions. I look at my little brother, who was the smallest us all first of all? He was only five four almost of I and one hundred thirty pounds. Yeah, like that's by no means that does your height and weight dictate that you? Would would not be a formidable opponent, but I mean come on. We're talking about a sixteen year old. That doesn't come from that lifestyle. And so I, and it wasn't in any like formal training to then be prepared to be in A. Jail with other detainees. Being held on charges that he is innocent, until proven guilty on, and while he's fighting for his Justice on his right to be free and seen as innocent, he's also fighting for his life, and when I mean life when I was fifteen years old, and in rikers island in the same housing units that Kelly was in One! into being in that jail. I witnessed my first murder. And literally when I mean murder, someone was walking up the stairs as I walked behind him. We were on our way to the mess hall in the for the breakfast breakfast and Someone comes down the stairs. in the opposite direction and stats guy in the in the neck with a pencil. and. The guy that was in front of me falls back when the gurgling holding Jeanette. And I a fifteen year old child. And witnessing for the First Time Murder. And so no, you know. When when we're talking about this kind of violence and I, not explicit what I just described, but remember I was fifteen years old. He was sixteen and sure he was witnessing people getting light, because weapons are wards jail by the other game, which is correctional officers. Because how else are you getting? switchblades inside of jails. How are you getting drugs inside of jail, or anything? That's weapon related. There's guns found in inside of Lakers. Guns! Not Speaking that in on a on a visit like they can blame it on the visitors all they want, but. The Department of Correction has a three word motto. Just like the Depar-. The NYPD in New, York City Police Department has a three word motto, which is Care on courtesy, professionalism, and respect for the. Police Department for Correction. There three word motto. Is Care Custody and control. So to get a gun inside would say that they don't have any. Control to get drugs inside which would be the same you don't have control, and of course they have custody because I'm being two teams by you, but where is the care? Where the care for things living in that island, one the food. has been. Exposed by the by the New York Times that they've been putting bleach and cyanide in the food. And if you, if you think I'm making this up. You can google new. York Times and look up reports back in the nineteen ninety s where they would put rat poisoning in the. They was put bleach in the peanut, butter and Jelly. and. Unfortunately there when they were putting bleach in the peanut butter and Jelly because. And I knew it I just didn't know that it was bleached. Because as eating something as innocent as peanut butter and Jelly I teach started throwing up. Tell everybody about the frustrating process of his release. So colleague in he was incarcerated in two thousand, ten May. May May Fifteenth Two thousand ten. May, twenty, nine I'm sorry. May Twenty Fifth Kelly then turns seventeen. So he was in there for his birthday he was in there for many birthdays because he was incarcerated or detained for three years and the the fact that he went to solitary confinement and the first time going into solitary confinement was because. People even should MC closely into the documentary in the DOCU series, but we put it in there specifically the district, the judge Dr Clark was now that the district attorney of the the Bronx the judge Dr, so Clark told Kelly to accept the plea, and he go home if he just accepts the plea and Kelly said No. I won't. I didn't do it, and she said on the record in the minutes. I'm going to teach you. A lesson in be took him out of the out of her presence. Running back to rikers island in debt with the first day that he ended up going into solitary confinement. That judge is supposed to be an impartial unbiased party to win to accomplish between the district attorney and defend. And yet she decided to take matters in her own hand. Because that's what they do, they make sure you teach you a lesson for not for going against the grain and so Kelly solitary confinement. He never had a mental illness before going into jail at all. Colleagues. You, it would be recorded if he did and yet there is no record of elites, nor any of my brothers or siblings having a mental illness when you go into solitary confinement. For the longest thing that he did that he was in there, he started. Exhibiting suicidal tendencies. I mean you're already alone in rikers island. before you're in solitaire, you can find your on you're not. He wasn't a part of any gang. He wants to be considered any any affiliation with then he came, and so he fought for the rights and not be in a game. How many people can actually had a attest to having to fight to not be again? Not many of your own audience I'm sure indefinitely, not many people in so Tally. Feeling alone fighting battles by himself without his older brothers, who would be there typically to help him now? Is. Is doing this by himself. Vision small. It's young kid against a house full of adults. This isn't this isn't a juvenile house 'cause they wouldn't have put him in bikers. Island this is an adult. To so any. And so. They put him in in solitary confinement where they further exasperates us. In is alone. and solid, you feeling. So and then they ignore him and the elected. Like when I say ignore, they weren't feeding him, but every four days Khalifa. Attested to this, and so when we got the footage of solitary confinement, what we did was a a pan. The four days of not even anyone going to itself in on that four day they bring him a tray of cabbage and a carton of milk. And so. deemed Glenn, came from also when he's on his on his on the cage door. Screaming I need I need to talk to someone I. Feel like I'm GonNa. Kill so yeah, you remind young brothers. My youngest brother say this and no one came to the Celtics to to talk to him. No one took his cries for anything. Serious. And so. The neglect and the and the sheer. There was no care custody news. No care in his being, I in solitary confinement so. Also developed multiple personality. That is what happens when you put a human inside of the cage by themselves more than seven days for more than twenty four hours using. You didn't start talking to yourself because your body needs. Your body needs to be able to Ju-. The your sensors, which is hearing sight, sound, taste and touch. And when it doesn't have that to affect, it will create these these. Images and these thoughts. and. That's just on a psychological level. It happens come. You can have to have a mental a mental. Capability know that brought him to that. First of all he was so bright and such a kind person, and seemingly very humble because. After his story was kind of made known. Beyond Jay Z. Rosie O'Donnell, there are these people that are captivated by story, and he would never talk about it because he was a humble person. What was he what was his goal? What would he like to have done to achieve? And and what? What did this life experience due to him? That disallowed him from achieving those goals. For that question comes. To me, it's only getting back to Khalif as a kid and not. Giving life to him, because he's taken and so Thank you for that I. I know my brother When he came home, he you. After losing three years and being behind in his education, Colleen said he wanted to catch up with his peers. And so that means he had to get back in school, but he couldn't get his high school diploma now that he's twenty years old. He was like I gotta get my ged, so I can get into college, and he did so his first try. Khalid ended up getting passing his ged test. And, so that's not the that's using Come out of jail, being tortured and still have the wits about cheats asks you Jamie. Attach? and that's towards his intelligence and intellect. That Kelly's. Wasn't going to allow himself to be down and he studied for it just that one his first try. after going through that that's what he did, and then he didn't take a break and say okay. I got my ged maybe I. Should take a break real quick and enjoy life on because it was just taken from me, no, he actually enrolled in College And He ended up going to Bronx Community College. he took, he took his ged Leeman college where my mother was attending college where she got her double bachelors on one in. Nursing in one in nutrition in so that's where he went to get his ged and didn't even Bronx Community College. To further his education, which he took business where he was going, he was into taking business, and we Al- accident. My sister and it was almost like running being in the family like Kelly. What are you to? What are you? What kind of business do you WanNa? Start Him. He's I. Go I got this I know. What I'm. GonNa. Do know what I'm and I'm like. What is it like a like? Kind of business, and we throughout like different ideas, and he's like the always miss reserved with like. I I know what I'm going to let me I'm GONNA. Tell you when I'm when I'm ready. And so. The little things that he did slipping. Say like she wants to be an actress. he said that and put it out in the documentary. You wants to be an activist. He had such this tireless spirit Is this something that was always within like when you think back to him as a as a little boy like this. He so principled. that seems to have never been shaken by his life experience that that remained. Strong. Do. You feel like that. I want to give give some insight to this because I I'm very moved by. hell Kelly like. was and how he would still be because when we were kids. Watching Dragon, ball and stuff like that and. You know every every kid takes after some kind of role model Kelly's Kelly's was my workout partner We used to work out a lot and I I Smoke about that often on because it was something that we did together, and while we worked out, we cause to park. Was My my idol, and the things that he said in his music and the way he carries himself, even though people looked at it, it's like some angry, black man, or whatever it was the words. That this man say that in any of his songs that just really range true in our experiences of black and Brown people. Yeah, and so I believe. Since. Police actually ended up loving teapots. Think, it was really just the fact that I always listened to it and always have my headphones on. And when we worked out, listened to it that I believe colleen emulated what he saw as an injustice and how to speak up against the in just the way that colleague Dick has always been served. He would always stand with his farms cross. He would always be like the last one speak. He would in. You would see him very even though he's inquisitive very watchful. You had so many siblings, the health that whenever there was a mistake. It happens to all of us before it happened to him, so he got to be able to be the one that sit back and watch. And I, guess that's what happens when you're the youngest kid like you. You have a lot of examples ahead of me. So. I think I'm. GonNa attributed to those those factors. That yachtsman colleague got older. We still kept that like on. I could imagine he probably. Listening to two pockets head and no one that had happened to me like that was another thing that he also like during a visit he he said to me he didn't. He doesn't WANNA be Felon. Because look at how the world use people with Balance Yeah. We're just animals, and we don't deserve a chance or even a second chance if if if you are the one that's guilty. But for a lot of cases since you don't get that chance Kelly was like no I can't let that be me. In the quiet moments that you to spent together. Now before he passed away. Did he ever speak about what he wanted people to know about him? Like what was the most important thing? that. He wanted people to know about himself and and that in turn. would be part of what what is legacy should be obviously. You didn't think at the time he would kill himself, but in a quiet moment was like. This is what I need people to know about me so that when we think of him. That we think of that and that that should rise of what happened to him. Yes 'cause I definitely. Don't want my brother. Being remembered and committed suicide is a part of the story It is something that was induced. I believe It wasn't that he wanted to take his life. He actually wanted control of his life and I want to say that. When Khalid took his life I understood it, he He was tired of having these voices in his head. Because, it was developed from jail, so a I can imagine I was in solidarity finally when I was kid as well so I can imagine what was going through his head, and when he got a grip of it, and he's started to to try and stop the voices in his head That's in getting controlling. He would exhibit that he would. He would be talking to himself about like the the the stuff that happened in jail, and then out of nowhere he sees my mother and myself were my other siblings. Looking at him, and then he he would be embarrassed. When he? Them until he was one back upstairs, and it's ruining literally mom, sorry, and then he would walk upstairs and so yes, he ended up to minute suicide and I think that was active gaining control of himself in Norwalk walking getting A. His his like those voices have control when he didn't want them talking but. I would say if he if I would put it into words what he would want to be remembered as just from the things that he's spoken to us, and you say the silent moments reminds me of the Times that we Kelly couldn't take no more he would actually go for long walks in. My mom would be scared because she heard the door in the middle of the night. Open the front door and then she would realize how just out the house and then she was panic. Panic and she would call me and I live close to my mom's house. which I still do and she would call me and say go find and whenever I found him, 'cause I would just drive around and I I was like trying to put myself in your shoes and I ended up all these findings in, and we would get in my car and I'm like. Let's just go four ridings. He would sit in my passenger seat as I drive down Pelham, parkway, in the Bronx and. Before he would fall asleep because you need that kind of comfort. And just to be alone, and maybe a moving car was just that helped him get away. They can feel like he's leaving He would talk and he'd be like. It's just messed up man and he didn't say messed up like it's just add up man like. I? They shouldn't get away with this and. He you know, tell talk like you don't have to think about that right now. Relax and try and calm down but I think what he was saying by saying that. They shouldn't be able to do this anymore. They said these the see that the police are here to protect and serve. And that's something he even said on rikers at. They're supposed to protect me, but yet they're the ones causing the most problems. They're the ones that starting the problems. And so I think Keleaf. Wanting to be would wanna be remembered as the one that. Could possibly bring an end. Through his sacrifice. How can we? Now that we've heard the story, how can we help you? How can we be part of the solution? So I decided I would make sure cutting going man I started what we have now a colleague Broader Foundation the company Credit Foundation is a mental health crisis intervention organization since I'm in the mental health field and what he did for what he expands. More than just wrong think so I I know. There's many people that still stuck in the jail system and right now. What they have is like the entry to society programs they come back into society that helps acclimate or to some degree but I didn't want to start something like that. I wanted to do the preventative for stop them from going into these hell holds before like. Stop them from going in period. Yeah, and so providing that mental health which is through social emotional learning kamikaze better foundation reaches June to you, in the way that they can relate we tell Kelly story which is does the glue that solidifies our relationship with them. it helps open up conversation on, so why by turn Kelly Story? Youth and young adults from sixteen to twenty four, the majority of whom we've spoken to and find them in the schools and schools that have their youth categorize at risk youth. but when we go to these schools and we talked to them, we realized that just. Hurt you. Just hurt kids and the zipping by saying things like well. That happened to my dad. I, haven't seen my dad in eight years, or that happened to my brother, or that happens to me or someone that I know is in jail and they it's it's the same thing, and that is the relation that we build in some that relation. we've been promote do our program which is through social emotional learning. We teach them not just to know about their emotional wellness, but how to be civically involved. And so we committed this dual platform of civic engagement, so that you can have controlling your own community, and you can advocate for the controlling your community by speaking to elected officials, and knowing which one sits, speak to 'cause. You can't talk to the governor about not having garbage cans in your community. Who Do you speak to about stuff like this? Or who do you talk about the issues that you have whether it's a bus. Stop is so far away. Away. Why do I have to go so far for a bus? Stop for How can we help or stuff like this in our own community, and so we go into the schools we teach about this while teaching about their emotional wellbeing in their emotional awareness and so Basically, it's like good good minutes who help can improve people's environments. They're coping skills and relationships educational achievement, employment housing, economic, potential It can help reduce physical health problems Healthcare like there's so much that you can gain from having. A good mental health and it's about time that we start investing in this kind of work. That's prevented. That's alternative instead of. Reactive. And so people could find. Anything better foundation whether it's on social media colleague better foundation whether it's telly. Foundation Dot Com our website. You could find us. in anything. Kelly determination, which is the official site? The the bond of brotherhood is so strong I you know I. I'm sure that your mom is so incredibly proud of you and. I'm sure that the people in your community that new colleagues are as well I'm just really. Taken by his story and. I'm just grateful for how hard you've worked, and I'm just hoping that we all can can help you because you deserve it. To a one I appreciate people that I just want to say this to the audience that I'm grateful that everyone across the world because there's documentary or this documentary, heads win across the world. I have paintings in my office. That I'm looking at right now. One of which is from gelling China's that means that reach China, where someone decided to paint a picture of Khalif and send it to America Here's one on the opposite side of of me. That is from France a woman in France so I am just the. We have enormous amounts of paintings. One just came in actually last week. And this woman is on the United States. However, so many people took the time to to dedicated six hours. Each of the Sodas in power is really forty five minutes an hour. Each and it's six episode, so that six episode kept people invested in College, story I and my family story and so I wanna take that moment to think then for even just going that far and now. would. Further action looks like if you believe in what we're doing, as organizations, you keep Kelly's legacy going and to make sure that you. Can no longer enter into this into me's on these places like rikers island. Then one thing that's important is we can't get any without funding. And I mean that sounds cliche and everything. However just think about the on the workforce. You know the foundation. Look at the work that we've been doing. We post everything so that people can see When we're in the schools, we bring us up using young adults up to Albany. which is our state capital so that they can actually have a chance to be in front of the elected officials that make laws against our communities. So that we can face them in confront them. And if it's. We're not just in New, York we're in Connecticut Alabama. Texas Florida California the like all over. We're actually in South Dakota that. We brought our program. Which is in eleven, eleven class course brought up programs throughout the states and Kelly now can at least I hope can rest peacefully knowing that. People like you and your audience and my family can become closer through his jacker fai absolutely. Thank you so much, Akeem. Thank you. I. Want to big Akeem. 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Ep. 269: The Art of the Wig with Stylist Kalief Wolfe

Fat Mascara

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Ep. 269: The Art of the Wig with Stylist Kalief Wolfe

"Hey everyone it's jen. I'm jen hi. I just hi welcome to fat mascara so exciting exciting thursday episode because we have a lovely expert in the house and it's a hair person which i was looking back and i was like. Wow we have done you guys a disservice. We've not had a hairstylist on in quite a few weeks and we got to kick it off and twenty twenty one with an awesome one. We have tells about khalif jess okay. So here's here's the scoop. Khalif wolf is one of the names you need to know. Khalif is a queens based celebrity. Hairstylist he has worked with ashanti he has worked with winnie harlow. He is not only a hair styles but he really is. Specialty is wigs and we. I just can't believe we haven't had somebody on the show and all are episodes. That really is a master of all whigs so he is gonna take us on a journey. You know how wigs how are made how their installed really Just take us on a ride here. And i am so excited because i really think that we're going to be hearing and seeing a lot more from khalif in the next. You know ten years beyond so really. He is one of the biggest names to know right now. Khalif thank you into the virtual fm stewed to the island queen. Leave taken all right. Let's do it so we have had a ton of hair on the show but we've never had a hairstylist. So well known for their work with wig so this is major so cleave. Take us back. How did you get involved in the hair world. And and how did you get involved with wicks I think we've have been out in before we even know you always thought about the old lady when you buy So when i first got started in the hair industry. I wasn't doing it was more like extensions. So that's where more kana to goal in van in the transition of my career than wigs is getting very popular so i had to teach myself more how to perfect the wigs and stuff like that. Yeah i never took a class. I never liked now. i did. I talk. I basically told myself. Now i've been doing here by money. My mom has been a hairstylist. Or my whole entire child wise when i got older and i decided to take on that career death basically when she stopped look it take us back like where did you grow up. Your mom is. Your mom was into hair like where. I grew up in queens okay. Cool my mom worked Salon in jamaica avenue part of clinton's I used to go there after school. Like you know like i. I never learned. I never tried to learn how to do something. No i just go there and just like go like go buying the Flying you know because it's like a little shopping center over there too so like you know. I will go e. i never was like. Oh i wanna learn how to do air. it was just. It naturally really came to me like it was just like my hands was just meant to do that. It was never like i tried to do. I guess when you see something so much no growing up is just like you know how to do it. That's always comfortable home in that world everywhere. All my siblings. While i have three siblings on we have one my oldest. We have different mother than same father. My two younger sisters. We have the same of the same so me and my sister have the same mom and dad. We all do here. Nonni one that does it for a career. They just have the talent but they don't really. That's not the interest. Yeah yeah so. You're doing it so okay. So you're you're in this hair world you're like it's just part of who you are and then did you. Did you go to hair school to like learn like how to hairstyle and then use. Did you learned wigs by yourself or did you just start doing hair. And then you're off to the races I i was doing here. After i got laid up at bloomingdale's i was gone. Seasonal does and i got laid off after. I never really was good like worker at any other job. My only job stopping shop in bloomingdale's and you were mentioned. You did horrible. So afterwards i graduated out of high school. And i'm like i'm gonna take a year off in then figure out what i want to go to school for your new whatever i was going to go to school for gonna be something. Something would be artistic. Because i'm very artsy so i took a year off by in the midst of that year old. I was doing people here. Just to keep money in my pocket So that after the year like okay. I'm gonna go to beauty. School decided to go to beauty school. It turned out to be way better than i thought it would be. Actually made me realize that. I really enjoy doing here because i i i was just like oh i don't wanna be that person at this age. Not known what they wanna do. I'm gonna find my career early so was just like i had the talent and so many people was coming to me for raise the largest decided to go to school. I didn't know that it was gonna be as big as you know. It turned out to be. I didn't really know i enjoy doing it. That much until i went to beauty school on. That's so cool. You got your cosmetology license yawn. I went to empire. Beauty school That yep yup yup. The school was actually a a a really good thing for me to have my picture up in the in the when you first come in like all my accomplishments stuff that makes me feel like i'm doing something right. Oh he's like a notable alumni We've we've heard from other people who go to cosmetology school that like a you. Don't get a lot of training. You're doing black hair or be. Don't learn about wigs weaves. You don't learn so that's the kind of stuff after you graduate. If you have to teach yourself. So can we ask you about the leslie weaves out of it for a second you know. I know that's how you started and united. Let's just talk about wigs in general. Like what kind do you work with. Are you just like it. Depends on the client or do you have favorites. She always do a full. Do you do a partial like how do you decide. I think the wigs are more for transformation. You want a different look. You wanna love light tilly different. You know or it could be used for protective style as well. You know to protect your hair from putting so much to edge strain in whatever you know or either way dig the protective style but If you have a client come in sit down in front of you. And she knows she wants away because she doesn't want shoes wants to have it installed and not have to worry about it. How do you go about deciding which one to put her in. Because they're home with their own. But i'm saying when you're in charge that wigs are not for everybody deaf another thing And then it's about the lease and depend on really kinda what they're going for. You know like it. Could i can. Have you allow me to take control. Then i'm just gonna really take control man than just going to be my vision. But i usually do that separately where i pick amato and then i do what i want on them because when i work with people i really can do. You could tell me that. You could tell me to do what i want. But then if you don't like it did dennis hairstylist. I you have to give me some type of direction and for me to just be able to choose something for you because is if you don't give me no direction at all that has decide. Okay you leave in all of my hand than it could. It could be good or could be not your taste. You know now by no the person. And i really like no that. No them know them. They've been From of mines. For a long time i would be able to understand and know what what works for them. You know like so kinda. That's a good question by is lying. It depends really depends on the relationship with the client. And the stylus you know okay. Let's pretend i'm your client ready. Money is no object. I wanna have some fun. I wouldn't watch much much. I want it to be deep pockets. Natural looking i want to be able to part it anyway. I want i don't want to the side part. I want to be able to jump into swimming pool and then get on a motorcycle and have it still look natural. I want my edges to look natural little now the view. Do you want natural. You always want to go for the natural. You always want to attach to you. Wanna do you want something that's gonna make you love different. Everything select natural every wig yard. I want frigging fabulous. I want it really long and really luxurious. I don't care how much it weighs i was. You know what i was saying. I was a red hair will really. Oh okay now. Am i going to get a full. Would you put just like a full legal. Read will read like growing out of this. Gal just turn you into a red hat. Okay would you have to someone with hair like mine. Would you have to break it all down bring it down and then yes. I'm not going to have to have glue and sewing. Tell me the truth are no just gloom. No sewing by the glue It doesn't go on your hair so if you have some people that have their hair grows so close to the brow you know you have a different browser. Literally runs into my hairline. No yours is not that bad. People you save your. Sometimes they grow together. I'm persian that's how we saw the some people do that. Just to wear a wig. They was shave just to wear a way to get back. Because of your hairline is so close you can't have it so close the week if nowhere by the way to go. Oh eighteen ev. You have a teeny tiny four. You know some people here grows ike. You know just like a heart shape. Yeah so i don't have to shave my head. That's good news. you're gonna do glue. Only you know for my nice. Emma melted down. Melt delays lasers very important. The main thing to wigs lace. Can we talk about that a little bit. That's like the mesh scout part right. The better delays the better the way hd lays you have transparencies. You have switched lease. You have the regularly Delays the best. And where does the lace go. Because i heard the the the the term. I know the term lace front wig but our of these part of the lace front. There are all of these lakefront. With the whole thing's lease he's given me okay No you could you have closures. You have laced frontal that you have full lace wigs than you have Partially way to have all song it really depends. Okay i want the hd lace. Obviously because i want the natural looking scalp. Tell me what is this. Gonna run me my big long red hair with my hd lace with you putting it in. I want the best talking a lease about about a dog dollars. If you want the best well no no. Sorry sorry. I i don't sell here so sometimes i'll want me to source it for me please. Because i want the best. So i'll pay you to find it about good sixteen hundred spending for good quality wig a good installation a good good everyday Sixteen hundred. yeah. I i want to know you know. So we're talking about you know you're gonna install this this way and everything you're like all of these these details that you've mentioned you know like finding the right one obviously installing it correctly which we're going to get you. These are skills that you know you hinted at before like you know you taught yourself this but if i went down the street to the salon they would. They would not necessarily be able to do this. You know this is like this is a very specialized skill. Where are people learning to do. This i think a lot of people are. Youtube is very big. Very very melodic people from you to A lotta hair stylists are doing classes. You know to wear people. Ask me all the time. When are you going to do a class when you do. I wanna learn you know. I do a class class. I haven't done one yet. i'm gonna do one. This yard is gonna be my first year doing class. Yeah But i wanted to be perfect. I wanted to be. I don't want it to be anything like everybody else. So i wanted to be original so i'm trying to find a way to make my class. The will actually they got something. Good out of bed sweated. Well i did a class. One time with my beauty school Empire i went there and i felt like that. That was the place really for me to do a class that because these people are paying for school and they're in school to really learn and learning how to do wigs. Was you know something. Bad is not being taught in beauty. School teach you how to work with every texture of here. But they're not teaching you how to be creative or you know just expand out of the regla hair world you know because the regular here were could only honestly get you so far you know and so everybody does does here. They want to expand they get so caught up. It is like you know you kind of have to like you brought your class to empire but you kind of had like no somebody. That was really my first class. And i both so to do that class because it was asked where i started from. Em so now might second-class will be putting together out. We putting together myself but it would be people anybody. Can you know a. You don't have to be in school to be able to come to the class but i feel like the classes should really be for people that are in school learning. And you know really getting their lighten to wanna do this. You know for you know yeah. It's it's really cool. And i'm glad you're you're teaching the craft. I feel like you need a basic knowledge of cosmetology and braiding basic hair knowledge. Before you get into this kind of thing. I could take your class. We all know. I'm not going to be able to do a good end on that note. Some people really feel like they would they was they was still just because some people wanna even learn how to do they own. Yeah yeah that's true. They're todd of pan and it done. They wanna learn how to do it themselves because with wigs a lot of maintenance the main thing a lot of maintenance with the whig keeping it looking nice in on a c. Celebrities celebrities have people in their hair. Everything day you know but every day people are not thinking like that. They've been like. I want this. I want to look like this. That said yeah. How long like say you put on a wig. You do with one we discussed with me. I'm just going to keep using this example. Long lushest redway lying on the motorcycle. Exactly exactly how the she's now the picture like. She's she's in brooklyn guys. I'm rough on my clothes fashion. How long have i really going to be able to get out of the install that you do like how many talking three weeks so my god. I could get three weeks. If you do your part what is my honea. Let's talk your part is tying down can protected. I call it protecting your lease. That's what i call it. are you talking about. I need a nice still crap at night. When i'm sleeping or what i feel like When you get a wig installed grain the the most important thing for me is making sure if looking natural like it's like is growing out of your scalp you know like that's the most important thing for me. I think for a lot of people. Yeah yeah. I was there for a lot of people. Honesty to her So that's why protecting your late. Because the more you protect your data is gonna look so that means tying down with like it's like an elastic band or like a soap ban and you tying it down to keep your legs nice and flat. Always you know so. You're not doing nothing of you're sitting house right now. You're late should be protected. Because i don't want that like edge to start puckering start coming up or yeah showing and they're just not as flat or melted than now you going out in everybody's Yelich trying to think what could happen to the lace the lace could be visible. You're saying it would be visible. And then that's just consider a bad way wanted visible. You know nobody wants it to be invisible yum yum yum. That's what i have to say about hellofresh. America's number one meal kit and one of our favourite sponsors so hal of fresh. You know the deal. They cut down on trustful meal. Planning engrossed restored tricks. 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When you're putting it i n or the execution and the you because honestly i can take something nothing and make it look like. Oh my god where you get that from. I went that you can make you can make a mediocre wig. Look look Guns okay okay. I think that's that's the gift of here. Styling you saying being more than anything. i myself. A hair stylist right not a hairdresser. I consider myself here of any style. You give me a Execute in a in a look you give me. I can execute so i think that's more. Yeah the is more about the personnaz actually doing it and putting in and of course if you have the better quality Better you fan. Of course that. But i feel like i can make something. That's nothing. I've done it before you done it. Plenty of times like in especially back in the beginning stages two point where when i first started people will be if i post a pige. People wouldn't believe that hair was probably synthetic hair back than or whatever you know so you can we talk about some of the actual hair that you use so i know that sometimes on your instagram and anyone who is listening i go check out his instagram. You haven't already but you know. Sometimes you get wigs from companies like you'll credit you know like for example like white label hair but then sometimes you will often. You'll create some of your own pieces to so. Can you tell me about the creating your own pieces because i thought that was really cool and like you said before you are like an ear. An artist like you're very artistic person. I i love way legal here. That's kind of one of my favorites right away. is more of when i have an idea or a i wanna do is more like okay. I need this. I don't. I don't have here. But i can go by. I know my place. I want by here from but then as i think i'll have to spend my money and by the hair. Whatever you know but Not have places that just send me here. They loved my work in places that just send me send me stuff and i have fun with that stuff that they send me. You know like. I'll just that's where i can be creative because every day. I don't get to really be creative. I have to do with my client. Wants to really push my creativity so now at the place where i'm at i'm trying to push creativity do more and so we're not just do the basic stuff. Speaking of being creative. You do have a lot of very fun visuals on your instagram. Like you know easy. Put like some clients go like you're so and so you know giving look but then some pieces are more like fun and very fashioning very fantasy. I'm not sure if this was a client but it seemed very like it just pushed it. There was a woman from. I mean a few months ago. She'll like a really great lime green wig. Like something is all just like pushed. They just seem a little bit more fun than just like client. Gig client gig. Where do you get some of your inspiration I from not too much instagram. More like i'm more like search stuff like more on google stuff. Honestly my siblings also give me a lot of ideas and stuff like they should do. And i just try to get inspiration from any little thing that i look at like well even invite the l. o. l. dolls. That girl is like a thank. All of that is information for me when i look at anything as i okay i honestly the other will dawes lately given me a lot as boorish find a half of the so crazy and i don't want to be. I tried to not so many people doing hair these days. And so many people in this beauty filled like it. And i've been doing it for such a long time. That i feel like a lot of things are starting to look the same song i tried to. I tried to not try too hard to be different. But i just tried to more expand my mind you know. Look look at look at certain. Things is not just the basic things you now because you could keep strolling on instagram than you know. That's really no inspiration as just like you know everybody's doing the same thing so you have to find. Evidence ends are in place. That's why i like to play around with models and whatever even the look don't work and it's not like my back so i don't love it like you know. It's still a challenge for me. So next time i do gonna be better you know or whatever can i ask about. I know you do. Some models are climbing and they. I think it's telling that like you them on their off time when they're not needing to be in the tommy hilfiger ad or whatever. Well it's true then they and then that also helps bring you into the editorial world as well because they're like come on like your hair way. That's how that's exactly how it happened with the tommy hilfiger shoe. That's how happened. I did so cool winnie harlow for damn whether the icon award show with something like that is our arcana. Something i did her for that night when she wanted that pose address and she loved her name my birth time working with heart she loved that night am band. That's the she wanted me for. The tommy hoping shoe you know and so. She's a big enough name that she was able to be. Like i wanna bring today here op. Great love that. I love that. Can i ask you when you're not doing like a like you're not getting paid to do a photo shoot or something like that and you're just working with clients like what are they asking for these days. I know you wanna push your creativity and get more in that world but like when you're doing your regular clients. Do you feel like eight. Out of ten of people are asking for the same thing. These days what's popular the basics. A nice long hair curls like that you know i'm very little known for my curls like mine curlers revenue bobby a big signatures always been a day because eliade can. Do i concur your hair like literally fifteen minutes and just have looking like you know but so everybody really wants stats same love. It really doesn't bother me. Because i love hair with volume body in like my thing but for me as a hairstyle is i have to push my creativity. Of course yeah The question i wanted to ask you before we get into the easy stuff which is a little fun speed round. I've been reading a lot lately. And i know some people ask about this. The ethics of the hair sourcing. I know you work more now with like natural hair less synthetic air. How do you even start to think about like. Where did this hair come from. Any of your clients ever ask about that. Always asked about that. And i think how can you tell i know my life. I know like brazilian hair very well. I can tell by the texture. I know in the end or peruvian very well by the texture All the other here that they're making. I really can't keep up like it's just like so much but my favorite would have to be ambien. Emperor ruben because the bigness and bonus of the hair but is really no way i can tell like synthetic era or like from immingham. Right is different grades of here. I different light levels to it. you know. And if it's like indian hair. Is there any way to tell like. I know this from a woman who cut her hair and delivered it in an ethical manner to the whig manufacturer or or not or you got or not able to even tell because like this distributors and importers and all of that yet. Because it's already waft and stuff like that it's already. it's already in the laziest is already is already either. West or in delays. Yes so am sorry. Wasn't difference between west and in the lace. The weather get like a band of it like to millions to the extensions. You know like like just with the. I guess for the clip or whatever just the one The lace is more like where they individually generally put in all around. Yeah just because. I've had i've heard people talk about how like we aren't able to tell where hairs coming from what happens on the other end for a lot of people usually go there. I go to india. All of i had a friend that went to india to do research into because he wanted to sell here or whatever. I spoke to him about it. But i never did that. So it's not my party. Bigger that is a business that i want to get into. Because it's i go one. Stop shop you now. Kinda wear like i think about had hair by selling hair or had hair it would be. I would be able to be creative and do more of that but also the headache of doing the hair then selling hair. And then as i you know as a lot for the business person. So the business is so fragmented the new suppliers distributors. And all that. I get i get up and do not want to. I haven't really found a hair that i really love. You know until. I really go to these places and you know that my grab my read really long. Okay waste lousy Black and red leather. Okay should we do our lightning round you. Let's do the funds to okay okay. Reading this is just quick quick fund. Whatever comes to your mind okay. Okay right what is the first grooming product like beauty grooming product. You ever fell in love with for myself Could have been like a little kid could teenager whatever the number. I love that number one Damn i don't but it was from so far. I love that okay. What quality do you admire. Most in others Respect s- if there is one rule you wish everyone would follow. What would it be. i'm gonna say Everybody really tightening here. Dow don't they say they. Do you know why because they need to respect your work you say right they really don't die down and i always tell everybody right after because tired down tire head down is key and i feel like a lot of people. Don't do it you feel like are you see them. You know that this goes on the never. I never see them analysis though that's still bass that's the most insulting thing to me. When i see somebody air that i did and it doesn't look good if there were to be a movie meet of your life. Who would narrate. It has to be my sister on my sister diba on my cousins than the. That's okay. we'll make them fight over it. They really do gotta buy. They really gonna fight over it but maybe sent the Might i'm in. What is the most played song on your playlist right now. right now as as like a high five Lessening is this victoria monette. Okay i think turning. That's my workout songs to rely on. A comeback twenty twenty so gemma stuff like that sound good. Are you ask like that. Okay thank you. This is great. Khalif had a vision for me and i i was loving it. I'm sorry about me guys. But i really am excited about my my red. Then i'm gonna get you have sixteen hundred bucks i will do. I don't know if that's the budget this year but maybe some year and i know his celebrity clients do so. That's why i feel like he will approve of my raise ones because i was thinking about. How like you have to tie down your way. You have to take care of it or else not gonna look good humor. If you were any hairstyles or makeup artist and one of your clients walking around with your work. But they haven't cared for properly. And you like not be out there telling people that i did your. We've or your wig. If it's not looking good so like khalif few my hair. I will take and one thing i've been using. Take my hair kind of like a tie-down thing. Please do not try and tie down with this. That's not what it's for. But the acquis rapid dry lease hair turban. So i see these for years. And i'm always like do i really need a separate hair turban. I have towels. Like i know. People say that it makes your hair less frizzy. And if you've curls and waves which i do i don't know i was contrary in me. It felt like one of those unnecessary extra purchases when towel will do Now it's necessary. It quickly became very necessary. I know yes. i think. My hair's a little bit less frizzy. Yes it dries quicker when i use this turban but truly for me. It's a laundry issue like we have a big old stop because now we are. Yeah i get it. I need to have so much hair. That i always have like this wet towel on the back of my door. We don't great ventilation in her bathroom. It's just grows and then it get out of the shower. And i don't want to wash it every time. So then there's like a slightly damp towel. And i'm just like this is not a nice luxury experience now. I have my nice neat little hair. Turbine from acquis hangs on the back of the door. Dry so quickly. After i use it i only have to wash it like every couple times. I it and then. I just my little turban. Isn't this huge floppy turban. That's moving all around the apartment. It's nice and taught. It's kinda chic. I feel like i could wear that for a couple of and not feel weird about it and when you take your hair out it is true. The cuticle stays down. You do not rough it up like terry cloth. Towel they just they just rough up that cuticle. And if you are already dealing with a freeze issue you really should look into these micro fiber towels and the towels great too. But the turbine with the little button. It makes everything so simple. I've tried it. I've been converted. I am converted. I will put a link on the blog. Raise on to Missing rate i think it's the quests Harriman it's nice as it yet. You don't have it. Look flopping around like that like a big old dumb tau. it's around cute. Yeah as you just get on like a sixties lady out at the pool like lounge. Look like mc madonna like you know like all maybe sure. Yeah i've been told. No i have not an amazing too. I am raising a one to actually picking at them right now. So this is my second time raising them onto something kathleen lights which is kinda funny But i do think she makes cool nail products so she makes these little nail decals which is the first time i've wore nail decals since ever am they're really cheap. They're only seven dollars ever. It's called when and romance golden stickers and they are very romantic. They're literally yeah. They're gold and their little. Little decals are like the kind of thing. Do you ever remember those things like. They were clair's boutiques purple stars. No no no no no. They were like the you rub on metallic cows and you would take a pencil and you flip them over and then you would. It was like a little wooden stick your them and then the then the gold embossing would come back. Would like go onto your notebook forever. It reminds me of those. And they're just little golden keys initials old-timey looking calligraphy. And you can put them on your fingernails. you can. I think the ideas you would put them on nail polish. But i'm just putting them on my bare nails. That looks like a little bit of a. It's like your girls crew but on your nails totally filigree goldie gold filagree little. I mean it would look much better if i had clear nail polish and manicured nails. But i'm just messing around here right now just to show jim and it just very low maintenance just a little bit of gold accent on your nails just for fun i might see letdown with some clear nail polish later but for seven dollars is kind of a kick no and just one question are they stickers or stickers things we're not stickers rub your little yeah the rubber thing is by their raised got it got it got it just want to make sure i got so even simpler than guys. Sorry stick it on. Yeah i took you down a path that rubbing. Yeah we all. We all traveled on that journey with ends up in a really great place decorated nails. Yeah and it does remind me of like it just feels like very old romantic like you know. Eighteenth century french lady. She's petting her tiny little lapdog as gold sticker. Nail i dig for that delightful thing kathleen. Yeah so yeah caffeine. I think you're very creative. And i just love all your different collections and i love you. Make them really affordable. Nice goodwin a right. That was a great show. Khalif thank you. I love the razer. Ones goodstuff and guys get your beauty sleep. We'll see you next week. Say here's the begun. Woohoo would've would've would've would've enjoyed the show. It's your reviews and feedback that help us make the podcast even better head over to itunes to rate and review us or email your thoughts to info at fat mascara dot com. We also want to answer your questions in here. It products you love to share one product view or to ask a question. Email us at info at fatima skara if senate as a voice memo file we can even share your voice on the podcast. 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Libya oil company blames UAE for oil blockade

Newscast - Africa

01:02 min | 10 months ago

Libya oil company blames UAE for oil blockade

"You're listening to the news at this on Africa. Business Aradio Libya's national oil company has accused the United Arab Emirates of instructing renegade. Three impose a block it of oil exports. The country recently received -Alex Pulse after a halt of nearly six months call spy conflicts and political upheaval, the oil company however said the blockade was reinstated weekend after Levy, a national army forces loyal to Gen Khalif half to announce the blocking of expert of oil from the country writers close to the statements by the company, which said an OC has been informed that the instructions to shut down production. We given to by the United Arab Emirates and that was the news at this time when Africa Business Radio, you can CONC- new to this in life online at www dot, Africa, business radio DOT COM or via a mobile APP. I am Rachel, she gender. Thank you for listening.

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Charged | Ep 2: Criminogenic

Slate Presents: Standoff | What Happened at Ruby Ridge?

33:00 min | 2 years ago

Charged | Ep 2: Criminogenic

"A bit of housekeeping before we get started this podcast is a co production of slate and the appeal a new publication about the Justice system, and it's a companion to my new book also called charged and available wherever you buy books. Okay. Thanks for listening. Here's the show. Previously on charged. More sister was at a party a bunch of guys like toll toll will kill your brother. That's that's why I had to go on that point. Try watched back when he went out he kept his gun hidden under his hoodie. Two nights later. He was waiting for a cab in the lobby of a friend's building injustice. He was about to walk out the door an undercover cop. Shop him to the ground. Just took the gun off by. New from nearly I'm going to jail. I'm Emily Basilan. And this is charged a true punishment story inside New York's gun court. When I got arrested that night when I got sensitive the precinct. I had a weight full certain detectives. So you got the gun cops. You got to narcotics. So I I I got questioned by. And it was actually about like certain things in the neighborhood. Try was afraid the cops might come at him for not telling them anything. But also, very aware that any hint of snitching can be lethal on the street and even want it inform on people he knew anyway, he wasn't gonna talk. So the cops moved him to a holding cell gate like regular gate like the actual low then pieces of metal ges criss cross each other in two beyond his like is kinda like being boxing because his small got one little wooden bench figured crowded is hard to breathe because you got no window back. Tries houses mom Valente found out he'd been arrested from a friend who came up to her apartment at first. She didn't believe it. And then my son came on in a house. And that's when I was like, you sure, it was your brother than he said mom, I think the cops grab him. They was hitting on him wanting to tone. What are you doing? And they. In a van all piss to the max at Torrey, Linda says this was when she first learned the try had a gun and this was not her idea of her kid. He been talking about becoming an accountant and even signed up to take the GED later in the month. It was very shocking because he's not a child like that. So he knows better. I was really pissed. I meet Lee call the precent when I call they haven't gotten the yet. So I was very shook it up and everything, and then I got dressed, and I say, you know, what I'm going to go to the policing weight into they Boeing him at the precinct try was handcuffed behind bars sitting on a bench. He looked way down the hall and solve into come through the door. See a mom comedian crying. She's a single mother of three me my brother. My sister supposed to be that that child. She. She could glow about you feel me like I don't know how she dealing with this that her son locked up. He might have two years in jealous. You fill me. In my mind. I'm thinking, I ain't gonna be able to see my family in a male law is like are hurt my mother, and I hurt myself. Try was then changed his army. It's and taken downtown to a bigger holding. So there was a whole world in their people accused of everything from selling drugs to armed robbery. Just keeping to us soldiers. Like fall asleep. Don't bother me sleep on the floor. I mean, our preferred benches, but got people like that just they got attitude in ages might wanna pick on your stuff could they don't want to sit on the floor. So void on projects lay on the floor and stuff. Try spent a second night there too. Then the next morning. They shackled him back up and put him on a bus to Rikers island. Reich is out is wanted dangerous feel relate one of the dangers jail facilities, but how to get myself prepared. I just don't want to be the victim when I get in there. You might think Rikers is just for people who have been sentenced to jail, but most of the people held there haven't been found guilty of anything like terrar-, they were just waiting. You can really think of Rikers a giant holding cell. When try was there. The population was around ten thousand overseen by an army of CEO's corrections officers. Try had heard the stories in Emets either getting beaten up. Badly on the CEO's getting beat up badly. Does a story with a occa-? He had got jumped when he was getting bullied in jail. Actually that story was notorious it was a big reason why everyone feared Rikers. It was the story of Khalif Browder Khalif Browner was arrested at sixteen never convicted of a crime never had a trial, but spent more than threes and one of the most violent jails in the country Khalif Browder was arrested on suspicion of stealing a backpack. His bail was set at three thousand dollars, but he couldn't pay it at Rikers. He was beaten by inmates. And also by corrections officers he said, he wound up in solitary confinement for most of the time. He was there eventually Khalif was released when the charges against him dismissed, but then two years later Khalif Browder has committed suicide on Saturday Khalif took his own life at his home in the Bronx. It was twenty two years old two thousand ten. Sixteen years. The first thing that happens when you get to Rikers is that you're thrown into a south dozens of other people all of them lit with anxiety. No, one quite sure what will happen next. Then you get assigned to a dorm tries dorm had four rows of beds for about thirty people says I wasn't able to sleep because everybody going to what they're going through. So I was I like mental breakdown for me. I was thinking about suicide at the time because like I'm like damn I own a long and being I had no idea when he'd get out the answer to that question hinged on one thing could he make bail and most of America. The bell system is how we decide what happens to people once they've been charged with a crime after that money equals freedom. I was looking for the Bill ASEP film late. I gotta give hottie. The bad news tries bail was set at fifteen thousand dollars. And now that was Linda's problem. It really was stressful thinking about how McCain him out because we've never been a situation like this. We like we don't just have that money or hand Linda had to find a Bali Jesse the usual agreement is that you pay them ten percent, but even fifteen hundred dollars out of reach. She just paid her rent, and it would take her months to save that much money. Judges New York often set high bail for gun possession. But there was another reason for judge to be nervous about terrar- fourteen game. Join bloods, the bloods, you've heard of them one of the country's deadliest street gangs. Try was still small in high school. We told you an episode one about how he got beaten up on the subway and decided to get a gun afterward when he was worried about going back to school. That was also the moment when he started looking for people to protect him for a lot of the same reasons. That's his explanation. Anyway, pretty soon. One day at school a couple of older students came up to him in the hallway they were in the bloods, booze. You little man. I ain't you like we we look enough for your sunlight, I that is what it is in his neighborhood. Try says he was the first kid is age to join. The bloods all was more active industries, but I did move move like a criminal nothing. I was still doing I'll supposed to do going to school, right? My music. I wasn't looking for new idea jump you feel me. So even mean to be in the bloods on but. I just wanted to be a part of site. Being again, put terrar- on the knife's edge in the eyes of the world and the law, but it was worth it to him. Even if judges politicians were blind to the reasons. I think they starting because of that that sensible longing ripe. That's convene Gibbs the youth. Advocate you Madam in the first episode where we all have a natural sense of belonging. We wanna be a part of something, right? Like, not just as an individual. But like you wanna have commodity getting thought a lot about why people like terrar-, join gangs, and why they fight it becomes tribal into Theriault because of the lack of resourcing in poverty. Right. And you set out to go gain resourcing for your group at any course, the beef in territorial comes because there's other groups that literally on same mission to have the same objective ticket deem the motive for joining a gang in a land of scarce resources. It wasn't really all that different. From the reason college students, join say a fraternity if you took all of them off those campuses, you put them where we in. Hood. They will be doing the same thing saying if you if all of the blood was on Highwood campus, we will all be engineered. This episode of charge is brought to you by gobble. So I think we all have good intentions to eat better. And then they tend to fall apart a bit in the reality of being pressed for time and not knowing quite how to put together a different meal than the one. You normally make one day last week. This big box arrived at my house from gobble. And as my husband, and I on loaded all these pretty bags of brightly colored food we wondered if we were really gonna use them. And then I had to go away for a couple of days and the first night I was away. I got a lovely picture texted to me from my husband of Panzer chicken with bright green, asparagus lovely orange carrots and some mashed potatoes, which he and my son had happily eaten by the end of the week. Most of the gobble package was gone. And as we munched our way through it. 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To be clear the gang still did damage, but they also came through for you, and you are in trouble and not just by intimidating people gangs could also provide the resources that were otherwise lacking for people like terrarium, here's falente. I'm very grateful that these gentlemen stepped up in supported us in this time. But happened was this the news cut out the Terai was in jail and one day two men should up Linda's door with money. The Linda didn't know them, but terrar- debt broS in the hood. They put up money for Musgrove, put kitty, the bloods, one of them in particular was pounding the streets five or ten dollars at a time for me. So basically when people unable found he was collecting money is like. On what you doing collecting money for Troy bell could just put up five dollars. Fill me by week's end. The blood said Ray is close to half of chars- bail. Linda worked on raising the rest of the bell. Try was navigating day by day at Rikers. So we have a spot Colt the day room, sit out table, watch TV and stuff and try told people he wrote music they gave him paper and pen from the commissary. And that's how I stayed out of trouble though, just by right in in sometimes I'll play card try being try made some new friends are used to play cards on some Bainian guys older guys in. But he thinks they all had the same tat tools. You know, they got the tank top. So on stuff, they just had them stern faces. And I'm looking at them. Like, I looked serious. This is only a card game. I would've looked. Yes. There is I wanna look Syria just along with job while meserve in like, I'm looking at the tattoos on them. And I'm like. Look like some rough tattoos. I I'm like, yeah. Brothers. And it was like, yeah. But I'm acting. They brothers like family related there is part of a mafia. And when they said that I'm like, okay. Like well play 'cause with on Vania mafia members, I'm like well. Okay. So Rikers had its lighter moments, but it was unpredictable too. There were these totally random moments violence like one day when terrarium was eating lunch. I'll just push from behind ready to fight. Now. Kids your gang is nothing. You've already to fight all on the CEO's came, and they just to the holders sale since you never knew what could happen. You had to be vigilant especially at night. A lot of people moving around like I'm moving around trying to see face like who am I here with is no comfortably not angel bed. Not around family is basically your soul saying to you. You could like Soka feel like this is not my company. Back at home, Linda was still short on the money for terrariums bail. But that an old family friend connected with a soul food restaurant around the corner. Astor how much more she needed? Then he kicked in five hundred dollars and word kept spreading in the neighborhood. I mean, the whole neighborhood people come to me ASA. How's he doing is? He okay. And my prayers hanging there. They called me a little nickname out there. Muffin hanging there Muffin. It's going to be okay. And a lot of people coming forward. Try waiting at Rikers for almost two weeks. And now Linda could finally bail him out. Here's tend to think happens next. Belinda pays the Bali Gent. Try gets out of Rikers the bail agent, then make sure the Tarare comes to court for all his appearances. And that's the rock solid way to ensure he won't flee the only way because if people didn't put money down they take off that's the thinking behind our cash bail system, but when I dug into learning about bale to write my book, I found out that all these assumptions are wrong. First of all, the US is one of only two countries in the world where four profit bail is even legal the other one is the Philippines. So there is an alternative to cash bail. Here's how it works. You ask people politely to come back to court. That's a bit of an oversimplification, but not much you ask them to come back to court, you connect them with support services, and you send them reminders. Because if you do those things almost all of them will show up we know that because it is worked for decades. In two places in the US Kentucky in Washington DC. Sure. State holds a small number of people in jail when they're charged with violent crimes, and there's good reason to think they pose a real danger. But for everyone else it turns out the best way to get them to come back to court is to ask them to come back to court. Remember, these are people who've been found guilty of nothing. Here's kareem. Rich and guilty. I mean point incident. That increases the likelihood of them actually being sentenced and transferred to a prison. I feel like we gotta Justice system that punishes people from being pulled both for being black or both in a lot of instances. Asked year in America about six million people sat in jail because they couldn't afford to post bail. Whether someone has to pay bales often arbitrary even bizarre just recently people have started to stew over this. Here's a bail hearing in Texas that was part of a lawsuit. You're gonna hear a county. Judge talk tool Amon who was in court that day on a minor charge of marijuana possession. And I really mean minor. She had to bottle caps worth caused thousand dollars. Are you requesting a court appointed lawyer? I guess sure. Give me a yes or no. Yeah. Give me. I guess are. No. Yeah. Is there some eat on about give me a yes? You really going to get me. Out saying, yes, you saying can't hear me. No. I didn't say that. I'd ask you a question. Don't get me. I asked a question that calls for a yes, or no, I don't expect anything. But it yes, or no, not maybe so or yell or anything else or something. I heard what you said you bond just went up to two thousand dollars. I'll send a request for Loida. Judge Harris court five have seat fat hearing a lot of these hearings to less than two minutes before the judge double bail to two thousand dollars. If that woman is like many people in jail, she won't be able to make that payment. She and her family will stress out trying to find the money. She might lose her job or apartment when people are stuck in jail. They get desperate. In research is looked at hundreds of thousands of misdemeanor cases in the greater Houston area. They found that the defendants who sat in jail because they couldn't make bail. We're more likely to commit a felony afterward more likely than the people who got out. Here's what the researchers said if the courts in Houston had let everyone who couldn't make bail. Just go home the state could've prevented four thousand new crimes for thousand. And that's just one city. There's a word for this feature of our system criminal Janik. It means jails create more crimes, it's the rare case where we can prove cause and effect like how cigarettes cost cancer, that's carcinogenic jail criminal Janik, the more you jail, people the more criminals, you produce. The money people pay to bail agent. So they can get out doesn't go to a bunch of mom and pop shops. That's the Mathon TV with dog. The bounty hunter chasing down. Supposed- rash of Belgium. Old your dog. I say all. His wife is also on the show in real life. She's the president of the professional bail agents have the United States which recently declared war on anyone threatening their profit center. You can see why giant multinational corporations underwrite the bonds. The Bali agents issue the industry makes about two billion dollars a year on the other end in my experience reporting families who are supposed to get their money back from the bail companies are lucky to see a tenth of what they put down. Take Linda in the end of the fifteen hundred dollars. She pulled together she's going to get back, sixty bucks. She doesn't know what happens the rest of the money. It got eaten up somehow by the fine print. Now, I got to recommend one of my favorite podcasts. It's called reveal from the center for investigative reporting and PR axe. There are so many great episodes of reveal. But here's one that has stuck with me ever since I listen to it. It's called the price of admission by report Nina sativa in this episode. Nina follows a Latina high school student who's trying to get into some of Texas top universities. She shows that the rules, Texas, set up to increase diversity at its colleges aren't exactly working out the way, they intended. It's smart and intimate and just really great reporting to hear that story and other memorable hard heading up Assode checkout reveal on I tunes radio public or anywhere. You get your podcasts. Learn more at reveal news dot org. In New York City, cash bail and Rikers island go together. One can't really exist without the other. For decades Rikers has been the dumping ground for people who are waiting for their families to post bail who can't come up at all activists have been trying to close Rikers for a long time. The answer for how to do it wasn't complicated. It started with one key thing ending cash bail and letting a lot more people go home the idea was to cut Rikers population in half. And then use local jails for the remaining half logistically, this was possible. But politically, it was tricky you have to build those jails in someone's backyard. A no one's excited about that. Here's mayor de Blasio in the winter of twenty sixteen when terrarium was at Rikers, look are understand obviously that we have to make major major changes in our corruption system, and there is a certain appeal to the notion of starting over, but it's a very complicated idea. So. A noble concept, but we do not have a viable pathway to that point. And let at the mayor's comments the New York Times reporter on the scene called closing Rikers quote fans full proposal somewhere on the spectrum between a hassle-free subway ride and world peace. But the activists many of whom were formerly incarcerated or truly determined to get rid of Rikers called Rikers island. The Abu Ghraib of New York, and that's what it is. It's torture chamber while the activists were pressuring from the outside. They needed some help from the inside to in every city. There's a person you go to when you have a totally gnarly problem. They know everybody people trust them. They untangle the nuts that no one else can untangle in New York that person was the former chief judge of the state Jonathan Lippman though. One thing. I noticed basically every time there's a task force or commission in New York state about criminal Justice. You are in charge of it. Why is that? I frankly cannot understand why. But this was a passion of mine when I was the chief judge I wasn't necessarily able to execute the things that I participated about, but I took pride in the idea of not being constrained by the shackles that unelected prosecutor hand speaker of the city council asked lent chair commission on Rikers the activist gained a key ally on the inside. But even Littman wasn't sure he could pull this one off. I think it's fair to say that the this was like turning around the battleship in point. There was no one who believed even after the commission appointed that Rikers island would be closed. So let men calls Eric Gonzalez who we met in episode one he'd been running the Brooklyn DA's office since his mentor. Ken Thomson died. Eric had already been rethinking has a sumptuous about bail. From his early days as a prosecutor an assistant DA ADA for short never gave much thought to Bill bondsman. I never gave any thought to them. Because to me they served a critical role. Like if you got arrested in the jets at ten thousand dollars Bill. No, one has ten I don't have ten thousand Bill, right? But you could get out for thousand by now, Eric it's seen Rikers from south. And he was the boss looking at the big picture all the abuses, all the issues all the things. Right. If we were to train and teach ADA's about those kind of issues, they would be much more reluctant. I think to the Nashville and some of these cases as Eric was thinking about what he could do in his own office. Judge Lippman took him to lunch. He did need a lot of convincing. He knew his stuff you Warren telling anything to him that Rikers were the hell hole a main. So he immediately got it. His answer was I'm with you. I'll there. Winning Eric's apart was the big deal for judge lemon. It was the first domino to fall pretty soon. Silenced decide to come on board. Then the DA from the Bronx. Suddenly everyone seemed to wake up came out said as a great idea. The New York Times came out said this great idea while Littman worked his contacts. The activist turned up the heat. In February twenty seventeen they crashed build a Blasios state of the city speech at the Apollo theater in Harlem. Suddenly found that viable path. It was time for another political group hug at another press conference your afternoon, everyone. I'm here with speaker, Melissa Mark Viverito to make what is really a historic announcement. New York City will close the Rikers island jail facility. It will take many years it will cave on on a journey. And you know, I said, I would I did when the mayor came out with his announcement. I said that's the greatest thing said sliced bread. We take years to close Rikers. They still have broken ground on those new jails. But the promise was there and this time it was to put fewer people behind bars politicians were discovering a whole new way of talking about criminal Justice. The mass incarceration crisis did not begin in New York City, but it will end here. A few weeks later Eric did something few days had ever done. He said his office would no longer ask for bail from most misdemeanors, though, not all he was still a career prosecutor. He wanted Waco room two days later, Eric announced that he was running for DA at a plaza in bed. Stuy encircled by a mosque synagogue an. He was not a shoe five other candidates announced they were running Eric raise more money than any of them. But a lot of voters didn't know who he was. Here's judge Lippman ultimate in the trenches. DA had worked himself up through the system. Diegan Zalis did not have a track record at the leadership level ACA needed to distinguish himself. He sees this new way of talking about criminal Justice. It practically became a slogan, quote, we are never going to incarcerate ourselves to safety, historically, speaking. That's a pretty unheard of way to launch a campaign for district attorney prosecutors that I had seen run before always ran as you know, law and order tough on crime guy. And I knew I wasn't really like that the tantalizing idea of ending the mass incarceration crisis was bubbling up in New York. Especially crime was down way down to a level not seen since then. Nineteen fifties incarceration had dropped to. But not nearly as far people were asking for more. And actually, this was happening in cities all over the country. Philadelphia Chicago, Houston all had growing powerful movements for criminal Justice reform, New Jersey, all but eliminated cash bail across the whole state in Brooklyn the race for district attorney moved to the left Rikers embel- the bane of New York's criminal Justice reformers were at the center of the campaign. Eric in his opponents were being pushed out progressive each other with their promises, you could hear it at a forum hosted by the civil rights group color of change. Five percent of people currently Rikers island there because they cannot afford bail when you entrust policies effluent. I'd like to specifically what policies around bail you plan to ensure that we could close. For try sitting in Rikers the changes getting underway or too little too late Eric's new policy had no effect on people who are charged with felonies and gun court was part of the old system. The one belt on harsh punishment on locking people up even after Valente pate the Bali agency it took like forever for them to get him home. We belt him out. And he didn't come home until later. In all try spent two weeks in jail when he got home. It was a big relief. But it didn't last because then try and his mom talked with lawyer. And then she calls us. She tells us, well, the least here do is two or three to five years, and I'm like, whoa. Will you talking about my son is not doing no gel? She said, well, you know, he was caught with a gun and her whole everything just changed. Next bit on charged dry goes to court. They told me they had concord this only for gun cases by oh shoot. It's gonna be a lot of it's going to be a lot of trouble where head 'cause give desert caught for guns. That means a lot of people will get locked up. This charge was produced by Alvin mallets and written by me. Jack, hit is our senior editor mastering by merit. Jacob. If you wanna learn more about the issues raised in this show. I have a new book out. It's also called charged and you can check it out wherever you buy books. Additional script editing for this episode by Vera, Lynn Williams, additional mixing by Chow to research and fact checking by will read at a toil direction by Josh Levin and Gabriel Roth June Thomas is the senior managing producer of slave podcasts. TJ Rafael is the senior producer of the slate podcast network. Jared Holt is the editor in chief of sleep special. Thanks to rob Smith, Sarah, Leonard, Alice, Whitlam, Jocelyn, Frank Danielle Hewitt. Lisa Larsson Walker and the wonderful Ryan McEvoy Doug Forbush at the Yale broadcast media center. Each week sleigh. Plus members got an additional episode of charged this week. We're talking more about bail with inshore Ofman of the VERA institute if you're a sleep plus member you can find that up a soda in your feet right now. To learn more and sign up for slight PLA had to sleep dot com slash charged.

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State representatives approve bill to make it easier for immigrant doctors to work in WA

KUOW Newsroom

00:54 sec | 2 months ago

State representatives approve bill to make it easier for immigrant doctors to work in WA

"Representatives in the state house have passed a bill designed to make it easier for immigrant doctors to practice here house bill. Eleven twenty nine would give the washington medical commission the authority to issue limited licenses to international medical graduates. Dr mohamed khalif is the founder of the washington academy of international medical graduates. He supports bill. Our organization we work with more than five hundred permanent residents legal residents in washington who are immigrant refugee physicians that have years of experience one of the members that i work with. She's from japan. She's a neurosurgeon and now she works in starbucks to meet ends meet khalil. Nonprofit helps international doctors navigate the licensing process nineteen eighty-eight law made it difficult for immigrant doctors to obtain medical licenses but if passed by the senate this new bill would help revise that policy.

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Priscilla and Kahlief - Shoe Shopping Under the Scrutinous Eye of Google

Ponderings from the Perch

26:11 min | 2 years ago

Priscilla and Kahlief - Shoe Shopping Under the Scrutinous Eye of Google

"Hundreds from the persian the little marketing company podcast i with me in the studio is very funny employees. I'd say like <hes> this guy's weird funny. We do have a lot of different brands of funny anyway clever. Welcome to the show khalif steel. It's a pleasure to be. He's here now. That doesn't sound genuine. Just glad that i can be funny. Maybe you're thinking that my calment and sound genuine. Maybe we would not have of a good end of your spectacular spectacular. If you did not work here that's a good point. Don't be okay and you know my son. Sawyer is like really in love with you. He's the best chocolate cookies and i'm sorry that i've <hes> birthday another entrepreneur and they come in and try and sell my employees. The are pretty good well. You have a knack. You have a knack for one of many things. Khalil is an amazing and award winning designer here at little bird marketing. He loves branding projects the but we are so production oriented when you think about the quantity of of projects that go out of this place it's it's. It's actually incredibly organized which is very different for creatives u._s. organized and yet incredibly creative creative appreciate that yeah it's <hes> it's definitely two different sides of the brain working together right. Let's go to different sites and sometimes different. <hes> ear buds going so i wonder sometimes if your left ear buddy and are is your right side. You're bringing somebody different tracks of music playing yeah. I wouldn't be so surprised and whatever system it is. I'm trying not to bother us output his trip terrific <hes> so so a lot of quality which is interesting because a lot of times soon as we get quantity going out the door we get quality that suffers but we have found the most amazing balance yeah we do and use sometimes <hes> pitch in and help a little bit on web and which is interesting <hes> who can stay organized <hes> <hes> beyond the annual talent show yeah jack-of-all-trades you. Jack is kind of low but i wouldn't call you wish leaving like that well. Here's one more thing that khalif does he actually the resident expert on google edwards. Can you believe it. He knows is one more thing so at this point. You pretty much assumed that if you're opening a business you're gonna have a website. I mean we you know we have a logo. We have some pretty some pretty basics there but as soon as we say that someone's going to have a website the problem is that there's over three hundred and forty million registered domains and four hundred billion internet users and five billion google's our everyday yes. It just gets crazy crazy so people ask us all the time well. How do i get my website. <hes> you you know seen and i always like to start with <hes> interestingly enough a baseball analogy which is funny because i'm not a baseball fan but i liked to it kind of hearkens back to the movie field of dreams and say you know that whole thing where you know if you build it they will come totally not true with websites. Okay i remember one time. I talked about that and it was in my slide deck and i actually said it but i was in london. I explained baseball but it was kevin kevin costner so translated yeah so <hes> but we could really have a whole different conversation about s._e._o. And organic traffic and how you actually earn people coming to your book today we're going to deep dive into driving your traffic to your site through google ads and you know if you if you we're trying to do this on your own then you're gonna learn a couple of tips but we've gotten in several questions <hes> from the podcast and if you have questions for this podcast please send them to info at little bird marketing dot com and we will address them in podcast and you know i'm good about just grabbing somebody from the creative fit and making them come into the podcast with me so google ad words are just really a piece of marketing tool kit one more thing you can one more arrow to pull out of your quiver and it's not for everybody but if it is for you it's pretty clear that it's for for you but it needs to be used correctly and here's what's funny. <hes> golden words are free to use however just like opening a facebook account right doing doing it right is what matters so if it can't be used correctly if you're really clear about what you need for your business. Here's the truth that i'm going to share here with you and then i'm going to grill. Mr steele on questions that came in are you. Are you ready ready. I'm definitely ready. The stats show right now that google ad words are converting fifty percent better than organic traffic so that is to say that if someone clicked through from a it google ad campaign on their search and they arrived at your site they are fifty percent more likely to convert meaning become a customer meaning by raise their hand whatever it is for your whatever signifies conversion for you and that's interesting because that's performing better than organic but they're both getting to the same place but i think i think what it does show is intent <hes> so we're gonna talk a little bit more about what what does it all mean <hes> but let's start with the questions so do you you feel the pressure and go okay. It's a little hot in here. It is always wait till the end your podcast room with padded walls with your please. If you get this message i've draft guest. Okay the first thing people ask me. As why should i even be doing google ads once once the benefit here and specifically. Can you answer what is the benefit over. What people typically are we're doing at the beginning which is social media channel ads. Yeah yes so facebook specifically. When we talk about social media facebook is really going to be your moneymaker. <hes> you go into twitter can go into snapchat. Facebook is where it's ass in. This book is great about targeting individuals lifestyles <hes> even after they took away some of the targeting specs that you could use <hes> in the name of privacy but adds on thank you thank you you hear this message the ads on other social media platforms a similar like i said google has a great because you can target the key words in websites that users are interested in and so if your goals are more for brand awareness or building following choose facebook <hes> but if you're ready to really turn that following all those people who are coming to your site into the pink customers google ads okay so that's the differentiation there and i'm we we'd like to say to a lot of the questions we got were more about <hes> b._t._c. <hes> direct consumer and so we're talking a little bit about facebook which is pretty typical but if for our clients that <hes> our b. two b. you could replace facebook with lincoln. That's pretty those are comparable <hes> yeah so just just kind of clarify for our audience so the second thing that <hes> i get asked all the time and we've written so many blocks so we we can reference them but i get asked what is the difference between search and display ads and once you kind of tell me what the difference is wind. We suggest one <music> over the what's the real juice behind each one search ads are the ones you might typically think of when you think of google ads so when you search on google <hes> there the sponsored results that will appear at the at the top of the page where the bottom or on the next page <hes> and they'll only show if a customer inputs particular particular word or phrase that particular key where that you define right so i wanna find pizza really typing pizza exactly display hud's on the other hand often used static or animated graphics to show your ads so these will show up on websites that you're a customer might visit banner ads google display ads are actually is seen by ninety percent of internet users so crazy 'cause i you know i get display ad that all the time. I know what what's so funny. I'm gonna have you tell a little a little bit about how you can <hes> how you're going to re target people and how creepy is that <hes> you know i'll go on vacation and i've been looking for a bathing suit and every sometimes i go then to someone else's website. It's like here's a baby you were looking for. Come back from vacation. I'm all done and it's still trying to retarget does feet out yeah a little bit more about display ads yeah so they can actually show up in apps or directly in to <hes> g mail into i users inboxes so a lot of people think that it's just the graphics the banner ads but they can also take a couple of different forums download those free apps games. I don't wanna play okay well. I'm waiting for the plane and the little google play out right at the bottom of it and i'm like that's interesting right or if you're on g mail on your desktop or something <hes> they will sneakily have a little email and they're like hey by that swimsuit back after listening uh-huh yeah so when <hes> when you're using display as you have several different targeting targeting options remember with <hes> <hes> with search ads you are targeting by the keyword but with display ads you can actually target by geographic area so any website that is accessed in the austin texas this metro or you can do by categories so blogs <hes> bugs about parenting giving a giving you like more of a group you know oh group view you can target it but in these nice kind of functional groups that makes sense for your campaign exactly exactly the best thing about this blades is that they get a lot of impressions nations. They showed that anybody who is really on the website and that impression is an interesting number because we do talk with clients at the beginning. What is the goal. The goal sometimes is is conversions. You know buying something but that's not always the goal of google. Sometimes they are just really wanting to do a branding branding campaign and really you know want to drive that impression number of without pain for the clicks awareness out there which is an is an interesting trick because you can set. Maybe even your cost per. Click really low so you never really get a costume but but they want you to spend it. Google wants you to spend their money so they're gonna keep showing your ad in order to try and get those clicks right so it's a little bit of a hack you can watch it and see how it goes and play around with it so oh okay so tell us a good way to remember the difference between search and display search ads work by using a pull effect and display the ads work by using a push effect so <hes> to kind of explain what that means generally speaking when people are searching online <hes> irrelevant ad will show based on keywords right right so that's your that's your search ads so for example if i were to type <hes> like running shoes into my search part of the search engines scoured the entire internet and it's looking for organic komo unpaid <hes> organic non-pri non-paid results for me to review right so maybe the company who has running shoes has blogs about running shoes. There is listed as one. There's specialties are they've actually written about this enough to where google understand and recognizes this is a good site for people who are looking for running shoes right bright who has spent all their hard earned money publishing these blogs doing this keyword research all of this stuff. They are about to be trumped by the research okay so there's another company arrival shoe company who's like oh. These people are searching for <hes> these specific types of shoes. Let's put our search at right above there listening and so now i see that at and so i'm going to click on it. They have some great shoes. Okay so neon green with the pink list some real loud ten. It is interesting. I'm i'm into this high fashion type stuff. We're gonna have to put a couple of pictures of your podcast links. Okay eh but you know. I i go to the click through and i love these shoes but i ended up not buying any. I'm like oh. I gotta go run. Five k gotta run my marathon practice marathon all that stuff <hes> later that evening after i cramped up and had some crawl home quite creative. I'm just on a generic blog. That's all about how to prevent cramping while running and bam. There's this ad for these shoes. I wanted so the search ads pulled us in to their site and display ads pushed out to where we were so that's kinda where you can see it. I really loved the article that we wrote a quite a while back. Actually about pushups versus pull ups and it was interesting because it was kind of likened the search ads in the display ads that push pull effect but the funny thing. Is you so you if you were trying to get your arms in shape. You wouldn't just do push ups right because you're only really working one side of your arms in the in the <hes> in the vein of don't skip leg day. Let's say maybe wanna consider are is your workout balance. Does your google edwards balanced so you need some push. You need some poll and in general that that's kind of the thing at least we need to help people think through before they enter into a campaign and as for his best use one or the other like we talked about really depends on your goals so you have that visual product that you want to get in front of eyeballs or if you have a large campaign that needs a just a lot of traffic traffic then display ads is great but if you really <hes> have a specific product or a really time sensitive urgent service or you wanting to rink drink <hes> against your competition win that war than search ads are great exactly so okay. We have really mystified that <hes> so tell me one anything we talked to people about about one interesting little unique fact about search adds fun fact fun fact search actually performed better with smaller the budgets that is you heard it here so secret okay so then the next as soon as before like okay. Why should i be doing this priscilla <hes> and what the heck are we doing usually the next question they asked me is. How much did i spend and so. Let's talk a little bit about that. You and i had been in countless meetings with people pull really trying to help coming at a number <hes> so what are some of the thoughts that you have yeah it all depends on your average customer value and how oh your hands are performing so this is a little business biki <hes> another creative <hes> benefit and so <hes> little bird marketing employees where so many hats here so big so i can fit different things on <hes> yeah also like i said it all depends on your average customer value and how your ads are performing typically. We suggest a large budget largish budget to start <hes> ideally ideally a budget of around five hundred two thousand dollars is adequate to really prove whether google ads is going to work <hes> but we've seen successful ad campaigns go for as low was one fifty a month and so i wanna be really clear about this while we've gone in and and and managed accounts that have thirty thirty five thousand a month several of them that are around ten thousand a month range it you know it's not what we're trying to talk about is like when you get started. How can you spend a small mall amount of money. In order to experiment. Have we set a benchmark and so if we have you been the five hundred or a thousand and these are the results. Should we double down on that. Should should we triple. Should we five hundred times down. I mean it just depends on where we're going with it but there is an element of experiment at the beginning that we recommend all all the time and i think sometimes people don't want to hear that it's like oh. Your agency should know exactly how much you should spend well. That's pay. We check our ego at the door. We don't i tell you what we can do. Though we can actually set up a great campaign and check the numbers and then we can regroup so i love that so a couple of other thoughts about you know oh like kind of how would we measure that and <hes> you know what what a company should live four. Okay that's fine. I got my benchmarks. But what should i be expecting in return. Another another little secret secret businesses on average are actually earning double their ad spin if you are losing money to play probably not a good investment yeah so so yeah like what you were saying earlier. It all comes down to what you're putting in and what you're getting out so for example apple say you're spending <hes> five hundred a month on ads. Your average customer brings in five hundred dollars. Okay your ads are converting at a rate that will bring you four for new customers a month. Okay obviously you're gonna wanna. Increase your budget. It's free money exchange sure that transactions every time you wanna wanna. Keep increasing your money until you find that limit until you tap out. That's why it's so important to really keep an eye on your adds to keep monitoring and that's one of the things that <hes> we do really well here. We always <music> <hes> we're really good about keeping up on our ads and doing all that weight now we you sent me myself and not ooh yeah and and caitlyn does help you. Every thursday khalif looks at the numbers and can make fine tune. Adjustments can't be in every day and we can't do that with the volume of clients that we have but every thursday even at the volume that we're doing every thursday. You're in there and checking each ad campaign tweaking it maybe to an a._b. Test maybe try different fono. Maybe try different piece of copy. <hes> i know that you go in a lot of times and see what keywords are not performing and and get rid of some and then we're not wasting our budget. We see what what particular things are working or you work with the client like for example whose targeting maybe geo targeting a different area this next week or next month say well. They're really trying to push their product. They have salespeople on hitting the pavement. In this particular area. Let's kind of go before them and clean up after them and so changing sometimes geo targeting and things like that so the point is that at this level cliff is changing and and your not necessarily change them sometimes just spot checking <hes> them to make sure everything is progressing as you and we give our clients the numbers every thursday but before we get our big monthly report quarterly wrap it was super cool and we're thing it's satisfying because i look at the work that you and ashley did on that account for the last quarter <hes> just looking at the success password there and he knows the exact. He's looking at his numbers. I know exactly what this translate we get. Can i bring up one interesting little thing that we were. We didn't say that we were yeah but in that meeting we call only ads also in his mic so there's some other things that we can do in google ad words for mobile to really give them a number for and he was able to track those dials how long were those people on the phone with his reps and that was a very in areas where they're coming from because he's looking the well. Where do i expand the next logical place. I go toward the station that go toward that. Should i go left right north south and this is info coming back to him through google ad words so it's kind of like reconnaissance. You're doing research on your own on your visitors making you money. Oh oh i love that research this give back. I love it okay so <hes> let's talk about one of my favorite things that people don't ask me but i like to offer which is what are the the communist aches u._c. And <hes> we specifically because a lot of times people come to us and they have already set up their google ads and then they're like they don't work okay it. Can we see what can we take a look and so you actually do that work so you tell me what is it that you see is wrong all the time time the most the absolute most common mistake that i always see a comes in all the time people are not critically analyzing results and they're mistakes so we talk here about being <hes> critical thinkers <hes> all the time and learning from this because we did mention the google ad words sometimes can't have an experimental your mental element to it so tell me a little bit more about that learning from mistakes and learn learning results so people will see their results. They'll be like oh man. I put thirty thirty dollars into this ad and it got fifteen impressions fifteen people's i add and they'll be like oh this is great or they'll say something with clicks. They'll see the clicks and the impressions and the conversions and and they will be happy with that and they just won't change anything from month to month or from quarter to quarter from week to week. You really have to take a critical look at which keywords are bringing in conversions versions are actually worth your money yeah okay. That's okay that brings up a million questions. I'm telling you so for example. You might have a keyword that has ten thousand impressions with fifty clicks and three conversions. Damn that's impressive right diversions yeah on the other hand different. I think he would have one hundred impressions with twenty clicks and two conversions so even though the second has less impressions. It's much more invaluable than the one that has more so comparing your results against your original goal exactly okay. I love that so obviously the other big piece of it is that the people we find all the time people are not even checking in and monitoring their results and so sometimes when they do come to us they come in and they couldn't even tell you just give us the logging. They haven't even looked at it. Okay so let's get down and dirty lemme ask i did ask come in and say give me five. Yes five steps okay if i weren't put this in order. How do i set up measurable and repeatable google ads so around one okay. You have to set goals lamb step two. You have to create the any thoughts on that like <hes>. You know you know interesting graphics or things that so you find work even better yeah. There are a lot of especially with display ads anything that is on brand and that is exciting is great <hes> and research adds. You always want to make sure that it is <hes> there. There are things that your customer would actually be searching for searching whether actually searching or you can go google analytics mix and pull him like where these people came from what things they're searching to find your side that sort of thing and just make sure that the ads the graphic ads or warning that you create matches right exactly. I like what you're saying. Okay number three number three check in regularly. We said that a couple of times on here after wind rewind it on my cassette walkman step for you have to evaluate the results you have to check back after you check in you have to look at the things that you reported on and really critically think and make a <hes> make an action plan based one of the things that we like about that his getting after after you've checked in and gotten the report that fourth step the evaluate results we find it really helpful to bring several people in so evaluate seems because you might think oh that's impressive and i go so it's impressive but you know how. Don't you think we can maximum that. You know it's getting another perspective in the room. I think is really helpful. Actually goes into the fifth. What's that which is repeat. Just do it all over again. At the start of the month we have a we have a actually towards the end of end of the month. We have a strategy meeting with several the people in on the team and we all manage different accounts and from there we can kind of look and see oh. This is how how well we did over here and then one person who's not even working on the goldmann suggests something and so it's it's really good to have a variety of people in the room with you right okay and i love that you put repeat five number five because what happens is a lot of times. Most people will do this number. One great ads number two repeat. Please don't do that all the other stuff. The number one is set goals number to create the ads number three check in regularly number four evaluate the results number five repeats. I'll say it again river so khalil thank you so much for taking time and talking with our minds about the hard hitting questions that they asked me all the time pleasure ledger pleasure any sneak peek at what you might be doing for this year's and the bureau spectacular spectacular a truly talented artists does not your we all have secrets however i will say that there could be some solo action ukulele. I'm just going to tell you to be ready. Be ready well to my auto harp more <hes> truthfully. I will ask layton that i won't be ready okay awesome so this has been an amazing conversation with khalif steel about google edwards but from all of the people that little bird marketing thanks so much for listening and have a great <music> marketing the blue.

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The Last of Us Part 2 Impressions, Crash Bandicoot's Return - Beyond! Episode 652

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The Last of Us Part 2 Impressions, Crash Bandicoot's Return - Beyond! Episode 652

"This episode is brought to you by the official the last of US podcast. Yod and hello everyone. My name is Jonathan. Bush and this is podcast beyond episode, six, hundred and fifty, two of idioms weekly playstation show where we still continue to be able to talk about playstation five games for real, it is a real topic. We can actually talk about concretely and stop hypothesizing about us. We're going to be doing that a bit this weekend of course also. Also, talking about the last superstar to know, it's a pretty big game. That just came out recently. I joined this week by Brian. Altana was up. How you doing Brian I'm good I'm very good. I feel like I haven't been on the show in a long time because Jan summer of games, but it's good. Be here now. Also a week is secretly two months so. In twenty twenty time Yes for sure, our also going this week by a very special guests cleef atoms from spun on me. Thank you for that on the tippy tie. Everyone here beyond. I'm very excited. Rock the all this week. I'm feeling very really happy to. I'm happy that we're working the show with a Pootie Tang reference because I did not expect to get. Literally just throw off all the listeners. You've got them all except for me. Please Please Watch pootie Tang if you get a chance. I think I wasn't allowed to kid and so I've never. Heard of asking. Why Should my cousin, my uncle would tell me about it and they'd like. Make references around the dinner table because they couldn't seen it because my. And I always turtles. We've never seen that. Your favorite pootie Tang reference to beyond dot com. But for those. In the audience who may not know your work? Why don't you give us a little bit of an introduction to on? The gaming industry. Yeah. Word. It is weird to say that I am in the gaming industry for almost ten years now started off. A block on small point blog. Some years ago, then transferred over and switch over to doing a podcast, and over in two thousand thirteen started and. Conceived with my friend, CICERO, homes out in Chicago. Yeah, we wanted to do a show called spun me. That was about you know conversations around blackness around. Spotlighting, people of Color, video game industry, and you think we've done a pretty good job over the past almost seven years now of servicing those conversations and having Greek guests and having good real deep thoughts about you know just the way the world infects games, and how it works in both directions, so has been a really interesting ride for sure. When of course I definitely would recommend I know it's sort of how we started talking of course, but if you haven't watched the spun on me, episode titled Lesson of it is fantastic and a wonderful very necessary conversation that I really appreciate you in everyone who guests on that episode for putting together, and of course weeks before instance of that show has been great to listen to. Thank. You I appreciate that. Of, course we're. We'll be talking about playstation this week as we do every week on the show I to jump in and give people who may not know your. Maybe do a little bit of your playstation history. Could you tell us a couple of favorite playstation exclusive series or games? History with. I mean I'm old school old grey. PS! One Blue Laser Kallis. Rocket. Rocket. Playstation gear I'm a huge fan. I love the metal gear series. Deo is still go in lots of different ways, even though he tells the most convoluted stories in the business. A big fan of his work, a big fan of the last of a series and really interesting or lately I've been really digging into dreams. which has been something I've loved ever since. I got a chance to see it in two thousand and five. So, lots of different pockets, in which I, which I kind of get my playstation gaming in. I want to give a big shoutout to a game that hardly anybody remembers. It is one of my favorite playstation games. It was called four am. which was music game that used the move controllers. And, you could basically crass using and pushing the controls at the quadrants of your screen. So. Games. And it was one of the best music generator is on the planet, so she ever had a chance to check that game. You should definitely go look that up I will. I will dig into that I. Don't think I've ever heard of that game. Actually or maybe I haven't forgot about it completely, but and yet I. Remember like the. The move controllers were kind of like side like the second the second than they rolled out. Because it was sort of it was playstations. We but with a clown nose on the front of it. was and then then we ended up having to use them for like fifteen years, but. It was it was pretty fantastic. Basically you couldn't see the crowd, but there was a visualize onscreen. That would tell you if people were digging your performance while you did your kind of machinations movements throughout the throughout the space. And it was great because it used all the functions of the Mu Control in a way that nobody else was doing it, so you can move back and forth and give more reverb Echo. You can do all this cool stuff with it, but it never caught on. Because people aren't really with music generators back then so right really really fun game. I wish yeah, that sounds like something was built into the music creation in dreams that sounds like that kind of goes perfectly hand in hand speaking of the move controllers though and there's. Dead Nightmares that continue to have the in our drawers. Later I do. Do you have any EPS VR experience or Dry VR gaming general because. We have we have a sizable pse? Our audience? I think in the show. Yeah, I mean. That was a big super q fan when I had my because I gave my ps Vr wake because I knew someone was was really excited about having one and at the time I wasn't really using it, so I gave mine away to a friend. Super Q. was was huge. remember at packs a couple of years ago, maybe last year. Who knows what time is at this point? Tom I got a chance to check out the Arman VR. which I thought was fantastic. A lot of people didn't give that thing. A Lotta love at the show, but I remember having so much fun with it, and really feeling for the first time like I was actually iron man while playing while playing that game, so I'm really I'm a big VR. Head anyway I do that stuff. I did that stuff at my my real job. So getting a chance to do that when I go, home is also Super Fun, too. Nice. And ironman now is coming out a week and a half. It's kind of crazy that a air I'm like. I like the idea of your real job, not being video game related at UCSB. STANIC somewhere. YOU LIQUOR! You're a supervisor on a site like what was that? The worst bank teller ever just like. Why is he not looking at me? He's not paying attention to at. VR headset nonsense. He needs to stop. Jonah talking with the last ones I'm itching to talk about the last month I haven't I. Don't get to see people anymore. I don't get to hang out with people anymore. I go on the Internet and people. Yell at me for talking about this game. Sorry to cut you off I just really want to. What what sort of show do you think you're on? Why? No? Of course we're going to talk about the I know I know I know you know, let's. Throw the area precise and specific run-up show I build out every day. Because he did definitely. Biggest thing there's. Deaf I WANNA touch on, but let's jump into the last us, US. Free at I WANNA. Get swallowed territorial, but we can Of course. We did a full spoiler. Free Discussion when the review embargoes up a couple of weeks ago. So if you want more extended thoughts from us, I'm in Cardi. Cardi excuse me Genyk Arcia Medina. They were all on that episode with me as they had beaten up by that time, but yes, we should definitely be jumping in because I know. A lot of people have finally have their hands on. It came out only four days ago. which feels crazy, but Last Friday. So! Yeah, let's get your thoughts Khalif I. Want to start with you. You've beaten the game. You've talked about on me, but give us your overall offs on. It yet beat game. Review Out Youtube Channel. Check it out. Is I. Mean I think the Nutty dot continues to showcase just why they're so good at what they do I. Think they are masters of crafting stories. Their masters, trying to give you not only new characters to talk about, but old characters really care about in going to their character arcs throughout. This game was fantastic show really. It felt like they took the time to craft. Not only the story that they wanted to make, but one that they felt the audience would actually feel satisfied by which I think is, which is really important. To not talk about having talked about scoreless. On a pierce, right. Yeah, Yeah Yeah yes, today, last night and it was. We just went ham about all. That was in there, but it was. To come away from the from the game with this feeling that the stories that they tried to share were full and complete and rounded out characters in a way that didn't expect. While also giving you new batteries to kind of think about in ways. That I didn't know that they were going to be able to do of course with the combat being so brutal, and in the world being so fierce, that added extra layers of stress. That I did not expect to go in into feeling, but again not dog they're writing is fantastic. They continue to world building ways I've never seen before, and they are just like taking the games to new levels, and maybe really excited to see what this thing is going to look like on five when it drops because we know that ever since coming yet. I don't even know what this thing is. GonNa look like if it looked so good on on current current Jan so we'll see. Got! It straight up. One of those beautiful. Might be the most beautiful I mean in terms of like detail density I still think that something like horizon. An even lesser extent that straining with what it does with the minimalism is. I would say more gorgeous vast open world experiences but in terms of the the moment. Detail on this game is, it is unmatched. It is unbelievably beautiful this. I found I found myself like gawking at little corners like crazy. I actually wasn't the biggest fan of unchartered four I thought that that game self Attitudes when I announced last of US I was like I. Don't think we need this game. The first one was perfect. I when they said that this is, this is going to be their longest game yet. I was like I kinda winced as like. Oh No, I don't want I. Don't want this just to be long for the for the sake of it but actually having played it and finish it I put Kelly twenty-five thirty hours into it. I thought that outside of a couple of moments in a couple of sections that were a little soggy in a couple of the of like. There's a hundred times in the game where you're kind of doing. Pretty similar things in terms of opening door walking interim mashing the button hoping he can pick items in the dark. There's a lot of circumstances where like characters like the doors locked. What should we do and you look up? And there's like a window above and you go through the window and there's a lot of stuff like that, but for the most part man. I really thought. This was masterful storytelling and I. Think like you. You totally nailed it. Khalif like in terms of making you care about these characters really did that for me and I know a lot of people. Are Avoiding the game because of what they've read. A lot of people have preconceived notions about where it goes. I think if you just read the beats. On paper absolutely would be a disappointing set of scenario, I think they're almost justified in an apprehensive about not wanting to drop sixty bucks on something that frankly like. If you just wrote out the Clinton alterations of it doesn't really sound that enticing but I think just in the same way that like. I can't really get a lot from looking at somebody. Travel pictures as much as I can go getting on a plane doing that myself Or just like reading, reading a couple of paragraphs about a book or a movie or something like that. I think that this is one of those things like I. Really Implore people who are even vaguely interested in this or or care about storytelling, this medium, or just awesome gameplay to check this thing out because like you mentioned metal gear like I think this. This. Really takes that like the quintessential like a sort of blueprint of Kajima classic stealth, and just builds and builds upon it in ways that I absolutely adore especially as like a horror fan like to take all that stuff stuff and infuse it with like wretched horrible creature monsters like that is so completely my jam and it made me so happy like. To bring all that stuff together, man, yeah, I. Just I really really really liked this game, I. I could get in a laundry list of nitpicks. Like top level is that I really love this game and I really urged people who are even vaguely interested in. Even if you've read the spoilers and stuff like that, give it a chance because like you can't. You can't get game played from a from Gif or like a low regime that somebody put more muscles on like you gotta actually you gotTa play video games like that's really what it's all about. It It's something I. Definitely especially. If you're someone who I think, heard story bits from prelaunch. Not all of the leaks were true and didn't convey the full story in some I think were. Specifically taken out of context to create a narrative that just didn't exist And when those things take place to is also important because I mean. I think some people thought that some of those leaks were sort of the end of the whole thing in another always there, the catalyst in which creates a scenarios in conflicts that that move. afterwards like. People looked at it like it's the end that it's really just sort of the beginning of how everything else opens up without. Slowing. Loved having had played. This is one of those games was really nice to have play before everybody else done all the work to get all the spoilers out of my way needed every word on the possible planet that can you in getting a chance to remember the conversations that happened from the two really important pre pre launch a piece of Promo material when everyone had all these things that they were like? Oh, they're GONNA do this. That's terrible. Why would you do that? And none of those things really were what actually happened was super fighting in a weird way was like a note. You totally botched that whole thing that you're talking about for him. Yes only. One interesting thing that I want to bring up. That I. Almost feel like is a disservice to the game. Was Some of marketing push because they really did focus on. Be Like it's about the cycles of violence, and it's about you know the terrors that we can inflict on humanity, and certainly into this time a lot of that is you know very easy to draw parallels to, but I do think so much of the story that for reasons. I understand because they do want you to experience it Mike Ryan. Ryan you're saying it demands to be experienced in played through, but so much of this game is about love and the connections that bind us and not just the connections that grow anger, but the connections that do grow out of our affections both romantic, platonic and familial and everything, but all of the the love that we feel toward other people on how that can influence our lives and I feel like that. It's so powerful when you see that play out. Yeah Yeah. I think it's like these are ultimately told them. A story about how? Revenge can consume destroy and rod us out from the inside and blinds to. Things that. Are Detrimental to everyone around us and I think a lot of people have been in situations where they're so focused on getting revenge on somebody or something that when they do finally get what they want. It's not what they want. and also not really understanding how much they have to push aside. To focus on that and I think that's. I I honestly can't really think of of video game. That's it's done that in this way. And that's it's a weird thing to do because this is a medium that is predominantly populated by sort of like kick ass. Hero fantasies is you don't really want. Like when when you sit down after long last week at your real job doing a real work or dealing with family of friends stress also the crap, especially right now. I think the last thing. A lot of people want is sort of like a sad hollering morose tale about revenge and. Violence and stuff like that. But for me, one of those absolute Weirdos that has always turned to significantly darker escapism in pop culture during dark times like I remember like the the weekend. My mom like passed away I went to go see twenty forty nine. And Mike. I was like well. Things are bad, but not that bad cheese. And like for me, that's always been like a weird level of of escapism I also think that like There's A. There's that movie you. And the director of it, he made it twice actually like he remained in its story about a group of teenagers break into a bunch of rich people's houses, and basically tortured them, and and hurt them and His whole thing was like I'm going to tell you what this movie is. If you still go to see this movie, then you're getting what you what you're asking for, and don't be mad at me if I deliver the thing that you know, you came here to see, and so that's I think either as a sort of similar action a couple years ago on the walking dead when they are bashing in principal cast members in the head for that. A lot of people be able to not show. It never came back and I was I stuck around for awhile. I left because ultimately I wasn't crazy about like just felt a little too Sammy for me, but I I was like I was kind of called that people were so a people hated where we're at one. You tend the title man like signed up for it like the Games called the last of us. It's not really. Like I had a guy tweet me and he's like I wanted more adventures from Mrs Miss and I was like. Yes, but I mean like maybe you should. Maybe there's a there's a million other franchises for that. I think this. This one specifically as is not. It's it's finding. Hope and vigilance in the worst case scenario possible did just keeps getting worse and so. Really Naughty dog had made another series of globe trotting adventures. Yeah, allowed you to experience fantastical stories that really changed the scope of the world, but still fudge time. It's. Really surprised at how much we were like Brian on this because I am like a huge fan. And I was sad like maybe a month ago about something happened, and a friend of mine asked me to be on that show, which was a horror horror, related show and I love Horror Porn, which Gore port and stuff like. Really really terrible. Nobody wants to watch. I was like I'm going to try to feel better about myself and watch the poughkeepsie tapes and. What are you talking about? That movie is awful and terrible, and I was like it. Does that thing where it's like? It's not that bad. It's way less. This is way worse than the thing that is in this space. And it's also interesting because like this is a definitely revenge tale in lots of different ways, but it's also an empowerment tail. They don't think a lot of people have really dug into because they're. They don't have that idea. Or at least some folks in the community that have seen have had negative. Connotations about the ARC l. e. are willing to see a woman. Be Strong in ways that that we're not used to in being a part of that revenge plot that we're not used to and I'm like you should go see spit on your grave. Yeah, she goes. See like I think of when I. Think of this this part of Ellie. And and the movement says she goes through in the ideas that she's having. Is this like I have a plan and I will do this and I'm going to do this. Kill Bill did it some years ago again. Another fantastic revenge movie is. You know as a woman at the forefront it. Pieces that go along with that conversation but I think. Naughty dog for all the things that have been set over the past couple of years. They still a fairly progressive in that way. That to me means a lot for the space means a lot for the future of the space, and it gets us to have way more diverse stories that we all want to care about in dig into so I applaud them for for going ham on all the directions that they went to because I think it made the game better, and it makes the space better yet. I'm totally with you I don't I. Don't think every video game. Protagonist needs to be this sort of wrought deeply flawed, you know. Horror victim of society who is also like fighting with her own or his own demons, constantly sometimes I do like to play like a Super Mario game where do just jumps on stuff and yell who and cheers but I appreciate that we do get something like this every couple of years, and I like like you. Guys have said like they they make on charter made basically like seven Temple of Doom Games at this point. Third they're all fun as hell. You know like I. said before was a little long for me. That's like I. Have to point that out because it has been very difficult to talk about why. I love the last of us to without people telling me that I'm page chill and I went out to their game. Right before this I. Mean Actually I loved them whilst Vegas. I really loved it, but on four like I was pretty vocally like against that game, not against it I just like I wasn't super into it and. A bunch of people at Naughty. Dog I'm followed me on social media because it's like they'd probably want to hear my garbage. Maybe, they still don't, but that's okay. My job I I. think that it's really important that this game exists right now I think it's Again like I think to reiterate I. Think it's like. It's it's pretty sad. How many people have made up their mind about it before? really digging into it. I also think it's. Sort of damned. If you do damned with doth, don't think with with. Any sort of female protagonists because if she is. Sort of. If she looks like alley. Or Ray like? She gets called Mary Sue and if she's strong, she gets called the man and so there's really like so what? So what right like? So your options. There are basically don't write female characters at all. You'll never win which obviously you don't want anyone to do. or you just make the story you WanNa make and an hope it does wall. It's looking like it's shattering sales records so. I'm interested to see what happens once the. Population at large gets a hand of this guitar hands innocent and they see where things go in terms of joe like. Maybe I played the last game wrong, but I I never came out of a first last game thinking he was like the game. Facts video game character, the year or some shit you know like. Like. That is to go discover Atlantis in the sequel. He's yeah I mean. That's a deeply flawed character that made incredibly personal and borderline selfish. Decision it out of out of mourning for his own daughter. With this you know kind of. Surrogate replacement that he picked up off the street, and like his his choice today at the end of the first game spoilers. was to either save this girl who had basically used to fill the role of his daughter who had been killed or potentially risk. Kerr life medically to create a virus that would go on to sit millions in his response to that was to. Shoot a doctor in the head and so. There's a lot there's a lot to unpack there, and it's really hard to like look at that and immediately be like. Oh, this guy should never get any cup for that like. Now he should go out is up for debate. Definitely definitely deserves a little bit of come up. It's for that here's. Here's the weird part about that, too. All the folks who were Super Mad about it like t mad. He's like in full effect right now. Is Getting there. They love right now, but that makes me bugs me out. Is you in this world where everything is trying to Q. You? You can't go into any any world like that and not expect you to make an enemy at some point does going to try to come get you. The part where disconnect between the folks that were just like Joel. Joel didn't deserve to go out like that, and he went out and I'm like. Have you not seen? Have you never wrong someone ever? Had, never expected them to be mad at you in a real way for longer than the small amount of time that you made them mad like those Bernard. Mad People. Now also removed. I think let's say we're in full spoiler. Territory here, okay? Just to be safe, retin, read our producer. I am not one hundred percent sure. If you've finished the game, so feel free mucus. And when you see me doing this, you, you can turn the volume back on. The audio is working. but yeah I do I. Do want to get into the. Exactly. What you're saying because it's like he went on a cross country journey, murdering not just clippers, but a lot of human beings, and the only humans around, so it is no surprise that they built a story around. Okay, what are the consequences of that adventure? And it's not just their Joel and Elliot's relationship. It is the far flung. Ramifications of their coach. The thing I always say there, the thing I've been saying or screaming and turtles. For last year this. is to the people who are mad that Joel was killed so viciously. What would you do if someone shot your dad in the head? Like, what would your reaction be? In twenty twenty. Maybe you would. I don't know, call the police that's proven not to be the best plan. If we we've system. We've current systems in place in a quote. Unquote gigantic air quote Functional Society Functional World that routinely fail US remove those things entirely. Creating lawless land with mushroom monsters everywhere. Somebody Kills Your Dad. Who is trying to make the world a better place? who is repeatedly shown in flashback flashbacks? In this in this game to not only be a good just man, but somebody who will put his own life in danger to save a baby zebra. That man that man is unceremoniously shot in the head by like a crazy dude. Just out of nowhere, what do you do what you do? You let it slide because that guy who killed your dad won the best character poll game facts twenty seventeen or Do you, you go out for blood at the think those people would. Say Well. First of all I'm going to change. Dot Org and make a petition you. I would. Like. Anybody who has been feelings would be like yo I might have to go do the National Lampoon's cross country trip and kill people like make it happen because that is the person who had literally saved my life. Yes, they have made amazingly selfish. And those choices come to bear and those decisions conversations come to bear throughout the game, but at that moment the person that she loves the most person that saves you. In front of you. Brutal way. You mean you're going to be like well. You know we should definitely talk this out. That doesn't happen, yeah. That's why it's so brilliant is intertwining these two perfectly justified in their own thoughts and passion hearts. Characters who are at war with each other and ultimately come to an impasse where they realize that. Decimating each other to smithereens is not enough and that they've almost lost everything in the process they all. Took, turns routinely making incredibly selfish sacrifices. At the detriment of everything around them. Some for distance, other for death and the end result is this impasse where all they can do is start from zero and build back up again. It's beautiful. It's. And I think we have to sort of get into the Abbey of it all because that really is. I think the the masterful trick that this game pulls off. Presenting this person as your assumed bad person, the villain of the game, and then for half of it you were them, and you are forced to lift through their life and understand this person, and at the end of the day like the game allows you to say Oh, I agree with choices. I don't agree with them, but you you experience them, and I think it does a fantastic job of making you understand making them feel earned and reasonable. I like the the fact that this game is able to pull that off in half of a game. Game that comes after one of the most beloved video game stories of all time is just speaks volumes about like their storytelling abilities, and I think well on every facet of what this huge team has pulled off in the acting in the animation in the writing and the storytelling. All of that really boils down to the Abbey of at all. Yeah, those two those two characters, and the few around them I think there's a really strong core group in this game, and they're all really really well acted. Are I think far more effective at? What it's like to navigate that that world violently in emotionally than say what I thought. This game was attempting to do from the from jump, which was to speak violence as a whole, I think it's way less successful at that I. think that that moment we saw in that in that You know playstation thing a couple of weeks ago where they showed her killing the woman with Davita, and then she's like I shouldn't have done that. I counted after that literally after that scene that killed thirty four more people and Ellie didn't say anything about any of them, and so like I. do think that there is a dissonance between like cutting l., A. Gameplay, Elliott and same thing abby and I think that ultimately comes down to the fact that is a video game, although a lot of that is contextualised by your own personal choice, you can sneak pass a lot of the things in this game I personally may laid and slit throats constantly just because. I felt felt right. Like I said I'm a big Hoorah Fan. Got To give the. Do, yeah, no I'd rather. Work through all that work. I'd rather slid a neck opener. Stop on someone's head. Than shoot them. When I had the choice or just sneak, buy them I'll stick by them in in a game. It's full on stealth, but this one like I dunno, it like I said I'm vicious, Dude I love horror, movies and stuff like that like I I would I would much rather do that, so yeah, obviously you know your. Your. Manufacturer may vary or whatever. If you sit down before this game, you sneak by everyone in the alley. Kill someone to cut C. Like Oh man. I didn't do that. That makes sense for you, but if you're going through guns, blazing or like cut next, and like that than it is a little weird when she stops, be like Oh, man, I shouldn't have done that, but it's a video game at the end of the day you know. I'm I'm with you I think it fits the mood of of the game. It's kind of I'm not going to say it's the way to play it, but again like the ideas that are surrounding Elliott her motivations to make sense. The world impedes on you in an impressive upon you. This need to be vicious in that you kind of feel like you need to. And, it felt good to be have that Catharsis with the world that we have right now end time to spend with that game to feel like in a place where I feel powerless often to feel powerful through this character, which was exactly what I was hoping for, so that was that was great. That's a really good way of putting it because I actually thought the opposite would. Would happen going into this game around like this is going to be discussed. Power our real life reality too much but I think that you nailed it because it's having control over something. I think has been incredibly empowering for everyone playing every video game during the pandemic, because we are so much sort of loss for structure and an understanding of what snacks and I think it's why people logged on animal crossing so much because it's was happy, communal game, but you. You could also like. Get New Room in your house like I would pay all my money. One of those right now is on average paced around the ones I own that I. Rent already enough times, and yeah, that actually totally with the same thing happened with me with this game like having this sort of massive journey of these two characters. Across these sort of vast although albeit dilapidated lands was really freeing, empowering for a dude, stuck in a two bedroom apartment with like a wife and a toddler like it was. Kind of Nice to get out. There checks throats. Low well. Yeah, I mean I do think it does speak to. Especially, the first game I think gets most of its criticism for like. What was the game play actually living up to the storytelling on that level and I think the thing that comes across for most naughty dog criticism is. Does the game live up to their ambitions on the storytelling level and I feel like in this game at like I really do feel the the layers to the combat into the systems at work here. It's small touches like being able to jump our full Go fully prone, but so much of that stuff make such a world of difference and actually made me wish there was a multiplayer mode like I I know that they've talked about wanting that to come, but man like the level of variety can get any combat scenarios like imagine putting this in the hands of. Of all human characters and watching what would happen judy? How many times did you walk into like a big environment and go like oh? This is going to be a really good multiplayer map. Yes, like so many have that. Hold onto times. especially the there's there's have stadium. They built a whole stadium and then you just walk by like two goats like a steak. Reusing this for something. Bad. There's no P in this game. What right now? 'cause every all the small details that was in the first multiplayer game. Crafting feels better the move. It feels better. Your ability to kind of like navigate spaces. All feel better, all small refinements that they did. in between the two games feels like it would be so good in a multiplayer setting at this point to do that with all the other animations, and with the skins for the other characters that would be in there like oh! I WANNA be Isaac so bad in Old Yeah I didn't realize that was Jeffrey, right. Me Neither until I was like Oh Jaffey rice killer there right now, this is. Shannon Woodward and I start following each other from. We did like this animal crossing video together, and she was denied in the game, and she she tweeted out a screen cap and Tag Jeffrey right and she was like. Hey, it's like my my friend from westworld. Oh! That's right and it. Just this whole thing hit me was like Oh, my God everybody was just at the top of their game in this game like. The activists. Even his introduction was awesome. He's he's just like. Yeah now. He's a great character. Sits A. It's a really great cast across the board and I feel like. They gave a really great attention to detail and time for all of these supporting characters. So that you even if they're not your favorite like you understood their place in this world and what they were trying to go for him, what their hopes and dreams and goals were ended, did such a great job of making like men that I cared so much about yard. During. The game like the the phenomenal work they do just short. Time is incredible. Levels really I. Mean it's funny because I'm kind of. Hearing here on level like I have triggers from the Golden Child Eddie Murphy Movie. We back in day and I feel like those who characters of the same character and I hated the kid. Dropping all the old school references. But. It was nice to have that. That's that play right where it's like. Oh, Elliott in the first game was was the was the mirror of love. In two, which is the innocence is they're all those things that bring that character into full bay are reasonable and kind of sweet in a game that is not sweet in lots of different ways. So it was nice to have that small like layer of Nice. In the game too so I've lived lebas good I I talked about on the show previously that I did, but I'm warming up to love the more the more. They get a chance to play around with him. Fair. Yeah, I'm really excited to revisit the adventure, too. Because I do think it will benefit so much from a replay. Actually Kinda stopped myself because I was trying to go back to the platinum and I got stuck, trying to find cards for like an hour like this is not fun. This is not why I'm playing this game in love this I'd put it hard for a bit and jump back, but still obviously there is a ton more so scared. The connection was going to cut. There's more we could talk about for the last one. Will End the conversation there because we'll have funny Maurice to talk about it and as we figure out more spoiler casting things. Cliff. If you want to come back to talk more or less, US, please do but of course just to talk about playstation. we do have some other playstation news than I did want to jump on because we didn't get to address on last week's show. And mostly it's that playstation has been doing a few follow up pieces of Info to some PS. Five reveals they've done one on horizon one on ratchet and clank that kind of gave us a bit more information, but the big one obviously is with marvel, Spiderman Miles Morales because there was all this confusion that we touched. Touched on a little bit last week on the show of, is it a standalone game as an expansion? What's going on with it? So as we recorded last week show, we did know that it was a standalone game, but then they put out this feature video on it that gave us a little bit more of a sense of what we're actually getting here and did. Did you guys feel like this was a good response to that conversation that was happening that. Unnecessary muddying of the conversation around. What should have been a really cool reveal? I think they did a really good job of covering their cover asses. Really smart the way they did it. They were like all right, so we. We messed up with the black community the broad community because we. Made this a side story, or at least we message it out like it was assigned story everyone to flip their stuff, and then was mad about that. The came back with a really good, small, smart, quick and dirty explanation of though this is an actual full game. We're going to give miles. Do and we're also going to put a black devil on this, so we can actually have people have an idea that like. Yes, we have people on the team. Understand it. Get it in are going to be folks who understand the the impact of what this is for the community I think it was smart. I mean it is one of those things where my by my face was eye. Opening here. But I appreciated it because one I think it's on again like they do fantastic work I have a feeling ill will in the fact that they didn't share that or the the messaging got muddied when they had that conversation. But I think in terms of cleaning it up for the community. You need a Lotta mess towards the individ like it was smart, they did a good job. It was definitely I think the best way they could have handled it that quickly out of the gate I'm glad they didn't let it hang for too long, and they did just jump right into it address what was needed especially because that games coming out this year, which is kind of nuts you now. Hey News. We know you love gaming have excellent taste, so we want to tell you about the official. 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The official, the last of his podcast episode one arrived on June ninth, and they'll be releasing new episodes of this limited series, every Tuesday for the following eight weeks available now on I tunes, spotify, and all your favorite audio sources, stream, or download the official, the last of US podcasts from June ninth Khalif I do want to sort of get your general impressions of it, because obviously, it's arguably the biggest PS five game that we're looking forward to right now launch. What what did you think about? The reveal an kind of everything? We know about the game so far, but re thoughts on the original Spiderman. I'd love. The original was upset that there were no black people in Harlem in that game, which was really interesting, or at least from what I remember. Gentrification in the game you. Talked about on on this show, too. It was like. They completely. They completely missed the point there there was. There was a there was like a break dancing crew at one point, and I was like okay. That's that's sort of like a cartoon representation of. was. Brought, in the Harlem, globetrotters is. Does like mean. If you're going to do what you gotTa do, the globetrotters could do episode you gotTa do. Any. But I love the first game. I was fantastic. I'm really excited about actually with the second game again. We're talking about the tech. The certainly got on stage and talked about no loads is going to be huge. You'RE GONNA be would expand these worlds out in two ways that never seen before to me. The game is going to be the game like it's GonNa. Be Gorgeous. We know what's going to be pretty, and it's going to do those things that hit that marvel note. I want to see how the tech builds into all this stuff. I WanNa know how fast things are going to move. I want to know how big the the world is going to be. It makes me really excited for the idea. That was all horsepower at all this memory. And all these great SSD's and all that we'll finally may be able to go to the other boroughs, which I think is really interesting to. That was the thing that was always great out on the map and I was like I. WanNa go to the Bronx. Why can I go to the Bronx like this is? Awesome and you have all tech. Can We build this asset that expansiveness that expanse is going to be bigger and moving to other spaces, so that's what I'm actually excited about. The sees you know how the world building works in this. How big can they go? Because I think with a a team that his hat hardware forever at this point, we know they probably had dead kits way earlier than other studios. it's going to be. I looked to see what we may see in other open world larger games that may be coming down the pipe down down the road so I'm excited for it I'm I'm happy to see what they do with miles and see they kind of incorporate him into the rest of the store. Do you remember when you when you try to go to the outer boroughs net game and there was the remember the boat people. Yeah there was that whole name I think they patched it, but does that mean going around for a minute where you could basically swimming in the water or like, get up near and all the boats. Nightmare and four dudes with four public I'm show. So hopefully, the power of the five six is at. That's like that's one of the things I'm looking forward to know. The thing is about the first one was like we're going say that's what they put all their work into for this. The first one was such like a like. It's honestly one of the I would say like best sort of like video game engine feelings. I've ever felt like in terms of just navigating now. That city was so much fun. But to be frank I don't remember where they hit all the collectibles, because it was so manic, just flying around and grabbing him, and so to be completely honest with you if they were all right back exactly where they were, but it's been a few years I probably would notice. I hope they move them around. They said there reworking the city a bit, so I'm I'm totally cool with that. I really like these sort of New York City winter aesthetic. Minus all of the garbage that actually comes with New York City winter, because people almost forget like when you see when you see pictures of New, York City or on Christmas. It's always the snow. Come down. People don't realize cliff. He realizes because you live there. The when the snow hit the ground, it stops becoming beautiful, and then it turns into NC, Jonathan. Jonathan, you live there, too. It turns into a four foot moat of just Tundra and Slosh and just disgusting grey. It's awful. It's awful and so you have to deal with that in the video game some excited, but it'll just be all the beauty of New York City at Christmas time without any of the part where your your shoes completely soaked so. Yes five haptic dual sense feel is. All of that day small. It's GonNa spit, water and your. You wanted. Puddles were thrown the puddles, right face and wow. Ever wrapping up a little bit on time. NO IS Cleveland did want to ask from that reveal event. Were there any other exclusives or a religious big games that were showcased there that really stuck out to you that really excited, ps! Mean of course horizon is is they're really excited about that. Honestly, really one of the things I was really excited about the spokane. Nothing about was the new camera, and as the thing that I was like Oh. I WanNa know what that's about. How the hell am I going to put that on the TV because my TV skinny, that thing doesn't fit on anything and second of all. It makes me again. Like just think about our. We're going to get a PS VR to which I think more than likely we are. So, so, that leads me some kind of conversation, my own head to say like. When are you going to drop that because then I'm going to jump in heavy when it comes to to VR to. Rumors that I've heard swirling around it, so yeah. The Games look good of course NBA UK. Twenty. One is going to be fantastic. It looks good I always think sports games is being the harbingers of what we reaction to see from a tax standpoint, they usually best games that kind of showcase, new visuals and a game. So. To K is going to be the thing that I'm really excited for when that draws. Yeah it! It made it even stranger to that EA didn't really put any of their next gems stuff in a play when it's like that would have been a really great time to show us what the PS five and xbox versions of these games? But unfortunately we didn't get that unfortunately, also I know we're running out of time with you for this week. We'll have to have you back very soon. more or less to talk for more playstation everything. Thank you so much for joining us this week. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. I'm so sad I had to a little early this week in school world Gerald and in work and stuff, but Of course this is one of my bucket list. Things I'd never thought that I'd be able to get on beyond and rock with. Folks like yourselves so again. Thank you, everyone digest community. You've been amazing for all the stuff that I've been able to do with y'all as well so I'm really excited to come back in and and chop it up some more. Thank you so much for coming on I've been wanting to do a show with you for like like eight years now and we're just two ships passing in the night. People missing right before we started recording. We just geeking out about like old music stuff for like forty five minutes straight is great. I saw you on. Your only four probably didn't know. Brian but I don't. Waited everything where he's. Only squared. Well with that, I thank you. Where can people find you find spun on me online if? You're. Slow to me is on all podcast forms. We do live on twitch every Thursday seven PM. We're on youtube or trying to push really hard on youtube, so please. Go there. Subscribe to all that stuff, so we get bigger over there, and of course you know we're doing some fun things throughout the year we have our spun for good charity event that we usually run this year. We're going to be focusing again on getting the vote out for the election. So that's going to be really important because you come through rock with that, so yeah, you'll see me online. I'll be era for sure absolutely, and we'll be sure to have you on very soon again. Thank you so much for joining US Kelly. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much to Khalif for joining us this week. Definitely check out. All of the great work spun on me. Puts out every week to support them. However you can. They do fantastic stuff will definitely have him on a soon sooner than later share. Of course, though as we wrap up, I want to mention Brian earlier in the show you're talking about how it's just so great and so rare to get something like so profoundly deep and dramatic as the story in the last, and told so well as we do. Get there and we're GONNA. Get it again this year because on October second crash bandicoot four. It's about time is going to hit the PS four in the xbox. I just have to mention I know. We don't have to go a long diatribe. Just one dimension because I'm exceedingly happy about it. We have a first game, a look and details on the website that. A convoy about so you can get a first. Look at the game play. A bunch of new details of modern verse Retro Mode Thing Happening there. It's made by the team who did the trilogy trilogy? They do beautiful work. I loved the art and that game. This looks just as beautiful so go check all that stuff out. We'll have some more stuff including some more game plan on Augean coming soon. Definitely, check everything out that we have going on with that game. Men Directly. That's such a perfect scenario I remember seeing the the remastered graphics and being like they have to be using this for something new are building for something new and seeing that they are. So this you'll puzzle. So they sent. Yeah, they sent me a puzzle. With one of so there's four quantum masks in the game that'll give crash different powers. And they sent a puzzle a little bit before they announced everything, and it just was like. Here's a puzzle from your favorite bandicoot, and there's literally no other information with the puzzle. So at the time. When I got it I was like I don't know what this is for. Other than crash until like you know, you can make the obvious guests that it's a do crash game, but you know we work toward the Margot after the fact so I, when I got that puzzle is genuine like a Oh this. This is fun, but what what's happening? And honestly, after the egg for spiral, the fuzzy dice that I got a for crash team racing puzzle was really Nice because they've been like two hundred dollars on Amazon, during shelter in place so puzzles. Who Do that stocking puzzles would be the thing to get in chiltern place times, but yeah. She is a fun may start to this reveal that I really liked. but we'll. We'll definitely be talking about that game more in the future. Brian. As we wrap up I was wondering. Have you been playing anything else so obviously? The last is taken up a lot of the time, but anything yeah. just as a finished last semester I was kind of poking around look for something that was a little bit more kind of children lighthearted and I started playing this game beyond blue, which you might have seen recently in some comic kind of press conference shape things. It It's sort of like a HD. PS Four version of a game that I really love an incentive. We called endless ocean. which is. Essentially an open world underwater exploration game. In this one, you play a live streaming scuba diver, who goes around kind of metro, prime scanning, different fish, and crawling through caves in swimming under a underground and. Showing off like basically finding details and putting together a kind of the story about the way, the ocean comes together It's really really beautiful, and it's super chill. I think out pretty soon if not now and it's. Like. It's a little wonky at parts like you know. There's a little bit of clipping when your characters wiggling around a underwater in some caves here and there, but for the most part it's like one of the most relaxing games I played in a while, and I think like totally in line with what we were talking about earlier with with grief about buying something. That's kind of open three in an era where we can't really do that like I can't go scuba diving right now. Not like that would be at the top of my list anyway, but. Yet, check it out. It's it's it's like. Really kind of laid back and and gorgeous, and it's. Really great thing that like a game like that would do where when a huge wail floods by you and you're right. They're like there's a big power in presence to it and feels really awesome. Yeah check check that came out. If you can cause I think he would dig it especially Yeah, no I. I've seen a few like A. Game Plan has been sort of interested in it, but I forgot to check it out. I definitely will soon. I was I was busy in the seas, playing to other underwater games I reviewed battle for Bikini, bottom rehydrated, and right did not love it and I gave it five and everyone hates me. So that's about all say I'm back in probably for now and then I also reviewed. I. I didn't review. Excuse me. I played man eater over the weekend I platinum that. Platinum I platinum did because when I beat. It I was like eighty five percent done with collectible, so I thought Unin might as well keep finishing it. I was super deep into that game. No Pun intended I and then the last of us to and I switched over to that but I can't wait to finish. It lends itself to those ponds. I it's it's a really fun like. Frivolous game like I can't think of how else to describe it, but I'm happy to have had it for a weekend and I played for like ten hours total and I saw. And it was just done, and it was a nice compact quick experience, and it's you know like the character. The human character models like awful, and there's like new overly repetitive jokes. They just keep rehashing, but like there is a charm in a fun to just being a giant sharking progressively getting bigger and finding these feared secrets in the say, yeah. It's as. Simple, but really sat to loop that they get you on early on that I. Just kept following totally with you. It's like one of those things I've always described as like a video game video game where it's just the. Is Not. Trying to beat you over the head with dramatic story and characters and stuff like that. That's actually what I it was really interesting to go from that to last of us to be on blue, because they are so disparate but yeah, I love me. Man Eater I can't wait to get back and finish it. It's it's. It's weird to flank the last of us with too weird underwater games, yeah! For summer where we can't go to the beach, it's. It's nice to be able to have the beach come to us. and. That's my cheesy line. Probably wrap up the rest of the show before. The show I just wanted to genuinely asked because I. Feel like we haven't talked about. How are you doing? I'm I'm okay it's. It's it's been. It's been a weird couple of weeks. It's been a weird year it's a like on a personal level. It's been it's I'm I'm having trouble coming up with a lot of excuses why I can't take my kid at the zoo. She asked me about them every day And so We're trying to make the best fit I've been cooking lot been like. Like not not just like sour dough in banana bread, just like Kinda. Go all out. I know you love cooking too so. I think that's one of those things of like having a finite sort of quadrant of control over something. He been good. I feel like I'm. I'm finally able to reconnect with. Like Video Games again I think that there was a while there. I didn't have the attention span to play anything. Too heavy duty, and now I'm kind of all again, and so that that feels good We got an email saying we're probably not going to be back in the office until September at the earliest and so. Part of that was dreadful and part of that was well like. This, is it, you know, let's make the best of it and so. I'm just trying. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a weird month with especially summer of gaming having the team so so crazy busy that I felt the same way like the last of review was sort of dislike. Okay, no, go back and focus on playing games for a bit like be able to get back into the cycle of that especially with ironman coming next week, and then ghost in a few weeks like it's, it's nice to have so many of these big exciting adventures in really different ones to look forward to yeah As much as we can't escape, these rooms have been really welcome escapes at a time when they're really needed. Yeah, and it doesn't seem like it like when you look at the like if you go to like the Amazon prime, and you go to rent a video or something of the new like it feels like the new movies basically just stopped dead in their tracks, he like I went on, I went on rotten tomatoes or like boxoffice. Mojo in those sites are just like. you know what the number one movie was this weekend at the box office Jurassic? Park how Alzheimer's then. It was on like ninety eight screens. It makes me so happy and I think jaws like number two or three, so Spielberg had a weekend. Yeah I'm finally getting his do. But it does feel like video. Games are are are still are still happening I. mean the go Sashimi team put out this big sort of like cast team photo of like zoom like conference. Call the Games gone gold. It's officially coming out, you know. They brought that game to the finish line. While working from home and so it seems like. You! Know we we. We've said a lot of feels like the world kind of frozen the place. It was when this first happened in. March. But it does seem like that. some of these some of these studios are able to keep going or at least pick up and bring the baton to the finish line based on where they were on the Development Cycle and so I, think it's all things considered. It's GonNa. Be Weird to be like what a great year for Video Games! But when we looked at these things to kind of help us get through. What is in actual living, nightmares, and a lot of difficult hardships for a lot of people. I think it's. It's been really wonderful to have those things to count on. Yeah absolutely and especially now having a better idea that the end of the year is going to be filled with a lot of that stuff to. Announce. It's it's. It's nice to see that fill out. especially as life gets back to some sense of the new normal when people are going back out again, say. It'll be nice to have these community to go back to, and of course we'll be talking about them all on this show every week. but I think that pretty much will wrap this up for episode six, hundred, Fifty, two of beyond Everyone's they on beyond a Nigerian dot Com youtube.com/ignbeyond and your favorite services around the world again not here any longer, but a huge. Thank you to for coming on the show. This week was absolutely blessed to have you on. We'll definitely have you on again soon. Thank you, Brian joining me this week. Chorus and anything you want to plug it as we wrap up. I hosted a six and a half hour long charity livestream today with Terry Schwartz, where we visited fifteen different animal crossing islands of some really cool people like Shannon. Woodward from last US and Gary Widow. Woods. Felicia Day ego wrapped her just tons and tons of relief fund people that always wanted to work with and so we clicked out a bunch of those If you WANNA see those individual island tours are all on Youtube so go check those out there only like fourteen minutes each. They're really fun, so yeah, give those a shot. was pretty proud of that. We got to raise some money for some good causes that day, too, so plus whatever everything going on with Aegean summer of Gaming, which is living up to its name of being an entire summer. It's it's been a lot but It's fun. It's really fun stuff so. Yeah keep an eye on that. Yeah, the animal crossing stuff was fantastic. I was watching a few of them on the vod on Youtube last night and they're central blast. I'm so happy. You guys were able to put all that together, but also be raising money for such good causes. Yes is really fun. Also mentioned on our side because this episode will come out after that the you may have watched. The Marvel's avengers wore table stream, which is the first time we've gotten a lot of information about the game long time. That game is also going to be our and I for the next coming month, which I am doing the coverage for so check back at this week. I believe it should be up for more coverage. I went hands on with the. The game spoke to him into the deaf team and we'll have a bunch more new stuff to come. That game was just also confirmed for PS. Five free upgrade. If you played on ps four, so we'll definitely be covering that one in the weeks to come stay tuned for more on that, but otherwise thank you so much for listening and or watching this episode of beyond We hope you're safe. We hope you're well and as always beyond beyond.

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"The sycamore tree which makes me most games. Sima mama we claim four. Thank you for checking us out and before we even get started. I wanna i say. And i think right can agree with me with this. Is that sorry. Sorry that's better than cova. J. j. was not great. Yeah so we're gonna do We're a bottle episode Unofficially black to do about what we're gonna do something a little bit different than a normal jay z. That's what we're going to do what we're gonna do it in our fashion. I liked jay. Greg is a big jay guy So we're going to break down some of his impact some of his business ventures some as collaborations. And we're gonna do it thing that only we really do is compare jay z to a wrestler on His his legacy so great. I i can lead it. Because i know that you've got these few minutes ago. These these these questions and so on. So okay i can. What do you want to start off with. We could start off with impact not cna. No no no no not a type of drill. Not the type. That's deep yeah. I'm happy you said it. I do like the latent homophobia is getting dragged. 'cause he's getting dragged now but it's still really funny to be. I have a question about glazes before we get started. Okay you want to talk about with a little bit. Let's do okay. So the rapper. Shy lizzie. dc here's penis. That's what he has. Okay that's what. I was going to ask not really into sex dammit okay. So when he goes to the bathroom he can't do it in public. Because he gets a little scared charsadda seig lizzy. Yeah i thought teague lizzy but his actually t grizzly that. I have a story about there. But we can't wait till you other rappers before we talk about jay z. Damn it so. It's kind of combines. The two story to happen. Or remember. Nate roberts get knocked cup. Jake paul jesus wanted to do that to beginning of the show. Didn't you you did. It has spent less disappointed. Four hundred years of black suffrage in his country by taking that white l. Between wilder and nate robinson black people have to ask people wife folks in two thousand twenty this year. Here's the thing. Jake is the whitest up the white whereas fucking do gyp attended. Okay fair enough. Let's still his weird though white privilege. Beat up it'd be basketball player. It did you can't take you can't put analytics on that. And no no no no. The sports science of nate robinson getting beat by the influence or so to bring it all before we go to the loosened t grizzly decided to post a photo of him pretending to be nate robinson. Underground it all you saw was stomach and his legs relate to toothpicks and people were like man he is built like a tornado. David why would you do this to yourself. Isn't even the midwest all nice nice nice in your first day out wise. Helen hunt here in bill. Paxton still doing a winner all right so you are you talking about j. Yeah so speaking of people from new york to actually makes us proud most of us most of us so jay z's impact i think is rooted when he makes the jordan comparisons is very similar and a lot of success in a short period of time. And you know like very very high success. Literally your only real crossover very marketable resource in terms of hip hop on the east coast side of things. Pretty much he. His career started off with eight over. The course of eight years is really seven. I don't know if i include rock law familiar but that's listed as his studio album. That counts that comes. That's a group album though. It counts. Though i a i don't care streets as watch it but i love familiar stretches watching there. That's what is look at. This is the wikipedia. The wikipedia counted eight albums in eight years. He had an album each year from ninety six. Zero three should as wild that is well. Yeah now you have me trying to look it up. I looked at it. I was just like getting like when he did this fake retirement. This is why jay z to me. I mean this is why the jay z. It has the mike comparison really well because he does that. Fake retirement when i'm in college the blackout. Right there oh another comparison. What would you say his his impact is. should i go from a personal standpoint. I never whatever you wanna talk. Okay so i'll tell you. I got into jc cousin. My older sister of i don't wanna make it to rub w personal whatnot but My older sister never really got along at the time so me and her the closest so 'cause different moms thirteen years apart is like you know what can you do about that so rows faces like ooh. So i got to j around actually. The dynasty dynasty counts dynasty count. It's a group album. No louis not dynasty dynasty has what wasi call lafayette. I'm i'm trying to take all of the on. They give it to me on that of streets talking this camp life. One eight hundred hustle. Guilty improvement one nine one nine hundred hustler fire is it is where you are. This is jay album scouts. It was marketing in the intro. Is the hard one jays hardest insurance that counts this stand. Him is not going. So i got it to jay. Arale ninety nine cheat say my age. I'm sorry yeah fuck you. When it's on in dynasty came out alight. Give it to me. Because i was a kid. I thought that was the coolest song ever it. Plus big guy. I know it's great. It's so great out new pepsi's part by heart at age six and that was i'm listening is thing i've ever so oh my older sister. Had blueprint would when it first came out. I we all. We all had like a big avary. Be a her where the car listening to the album. And i was like whoa. This is amazing. Is this new. And she was like yeah and we were both like jab jab and when you don't know came all both Like we're wrapping. The song together. And i was like. Oh that was a body moment. An herb over since crisp also rock law familiar is a group album all sixteen tracks. Twelve of them are features album. It's a it's twelve. You have sixteen was the math on that was twelve. Sixteen look shows is on. How many of those. no. I'm saying seventy five percent. Basically is jay z and friends. Rock rockefeller album is not like streets. Is watching. Streets is watching. Every failed are rockefeller there. Well this is very early in infancy. This is jay at his powers. This is after the blueprint albums right. Yeah but yeah but what would a big singles on that. I don't recall it being very successful in terms of singles. I'm a hustler baby. I just want you to know who i am about to go. I just wanna love you. That's bec- with other things that the reason oh in terms of impact general i will agree with you I think between him. Master p impove at the jay bilas the malls in tune inside of the east coast in terms of riot At thank puff was an executive vienna. Rapper and masterpiece. He was a rapper. Really as an executive took south though. Yeah that's what i mean. I think those three arte. Three embodiments of rapper entrepreneur. The guys that we're going to keep pushing forward kind of mo- you you could easily put in there because aftermath was already around by this time. Well yeah that's true. I i have some issues with dry out but that's a different story. I mean stabbed a guy around. Tom's let's is nothing well. It wasn't personal is more so the fact of at think dry was a bad label head guy. Granted we're gonna talk about jay z's very bad attempts. We'll get into the legal. Yeah we'll we'll talk about that. I mean i can defend it in. I have stuff against it but it's not a matter of using your fan and we're trying to be as neutral as pot as possible. Here's what i. That's what i'm trying to do. So when it comes to jay he is like my version of michael jordan. Because i didn't really grew up with jordan like that. I realized look by dial on right. Now i was. I was giving you cameron cameron dialogue. Who the top rappers. Rodley ropley ropley and rob lee. You're getting too close mine. Wash appel show. So if you've gotta dvd's don't watch it on any other show fuck viacom so yeah for me. He's now he's my jordan. He needs my black version of. I don't want to say superman because that's sales corny. He's my version of a super hero of sorts. Not like it turns the inspirational sense but more so being a larger than life figure and sense that we saw from the beginning is that we saw his origin story and he told his origin story. And now we see where he is now. Can you imagine hawaiian. Sophie being a billionaire. Now i don't know you see what my energy is going. I see how does listening to this is interesting but yeah that's impact to me. That's all okay. That's good so now. Here's the shade compared to wrestler. That's that's that's the thing that we would do here because we're big wrestling fans who would wrestler would you compare. Jay z too fucked up. I don't like this wrestler triple h. I'm going with the undertaker really shocked. You wanted to my basis. Okay those eight albums on the street to me and once you get like two thousand three two thousand four kinda period you get more concept stuff stuff. That i'm retiring not really retirement. I'm kinda change changing a what. I'm doing a bid and then kind of growing up in in some ways but wasn't in his mid thirties at the time too but growing up in some ways of being in a relationship with beyond saying kind of having that thing there. It's necessarily a loss but you have more people complaining. And that's what you get lines like feel like my new shit mode albums. What have you so. That's why i think undertaker were heavy if you really like one and all of that stuff you're gonna like him and all of that but also it's like all right if you're going to retire do something different but it's kind of reinvention So the reinvention thing is also one of those big things as to why is he that that similarly In tom's i wish j really didn't put that long leather coat on with the high you know collar and the golf makeup. But he did and he beat aj styles. Ross hola. what now man. I was letting you go cook. I didn't want to stop it. I was like jcp aj style. Who is randy some independent big crit shit. Really were the question because we had to see somebody who was under coors always loved regardless of where they were. He's probably one of the few people. I don't want we don't need to make it clear right. Now he's one of the few people were everywhere he went he was loved. That's the big creek. Comparison might be accurate. Actually might be apt. I'll tell you about that. I have for that. Is the thing too. Because jay is very fucking country. Because i was big boy. Yeah so but gone. So what do you. What do you got we. Who's your so your meaning for in terms of triple h well legend shawna's begi holy. I'm really shocked. Did actually works accede it. So that time when he came there with a leather jacket on denim under it and he towards quality what a bike shorts and he took that was his blueprint. dallas blueprint. i look at it. This a undertake undertaking triple h have very similarities in terms of trying to spin the wheel and trying to reinstate like when rockefeller went away and j created roc nation. I look at roc nation. Similar to how inex- innocence 'cause rock nation like it or not in i. There's different pay. Roc nation right. Nation is about protecting the artis about protecting the performance farmers. There's talent that you know when they go up to the main roster. I'm sorry i still development so before somebody kills me They fall on the ads on raw and smackdown. They can come back there now. It's like a safety. Net iraq nation like we saw with the stallions issue is a safety net for artists to you. Know while the five hundred issue what was like five. Oh one not labeled crawford runs. Our lobby niggers virtually nj split label. Like if basically said you need lawyers contract all the way through and then we get body yati yada yada yada yada you. Yeah well that's a that's a friday. Show yeah my car. Wash right now hookah. But yeah as c. J. as somebody who's always who raps about trying to move forward and try to push the envelope as triple h is. Somebody does. Try to move the envelope and someone who always puts on consistently good performances. There's always and this is a shade but if someone shea there's always that one lazy performance they do both naked. Get really lazy. But they're consistently good. They have good matches. They have won a lot of awards. They push the envelope into trying to make the industry. They're in a better place in there. Is i think this also works with the the triple h. Ps and it may be a piece of criticism as well where there's always some pockets. There's this hater sense that you may not be as deserving of your space because whatever your connection beat triple h being connected to the mcmahon's and being with stephanie and having that kind of helped him get to a spot despite whatever work you put in and you know jay z connection with biggie being the air parent too big if in die with j. b. is who he was probably know so jason businessman pigaso credible notorious. Hpk super kicks so business venture. Jay z is not a business man. He's a businessman so that was really cornea me but that sounded like something that our ip algebra beck would say y- you know but somebody do two things. I have multiple or minds. What are some of your favorite business. Ventures of j. and he's account as collaborations in terms of the business sphere of things things that he may have endorsed. And what are some of your favorite venture that he's had so i'm gonna go with the unpopular opinions. I i love title okay. I love title it. It's so i was a spotify guy through and through. And i think when title. I initially launched. I did a college. I did a twenty five page. Steve says paper on the comparisons between spotify title. What's the ui differences in all. That was a lot of criticism about title because there was a lot of things i didn't like because titles attentions were. We're for artists bida artists. We're here to treat the artists right and when you see their initial campaign you just see all one percenters yellow one table and it was like yeah. We're doing this for an artist. I don't they were doing it for themselves. Yes it was a very horrible fucking lunch. So of course that killed them for a little bit As time went on. I started looking more title stuff. Title has one of the best. Ui interfaces there is title actually credit. Everyone and this is a huge thing to me if everybody that works on a project from the engineer from the sound mixer from the vocalists underwriters. They're all credited or everything title. Everybody entitled pays the artist and most importantly title has amazing sound. So i was shocked when i gave it another go in assorted improvements that they did and now looking at it it's like is my favorite streaming at music streaming out. There is better than spotify. My opinion who's still treat their artists like shit. is better than most streaming music streaming apps right now. That's my that will be the big one for me right now. I would have to really take off the top of my head. So i'll let you go now for your not so hot venture so oh The big one for me actually just to His collaboration with weinstein. I wasn't talking with that That happened in what twenty sixteen down. Four allegations came out. But it made me very uncomfortable to see that khalif Khalif browder documentary. Name is under harvey weinstein's now. It is still very uncomfortable to watch it. It's a good documentary. But the problem is is just that name still bothers me out and i was say because i had to my second. Unfavorable venture from him was probably the nets. I did not like what happened. What brooklyn at all at think. That's minds as well. okay. I think that it led to digital f- occasional brooklyn in-intentionally or attention really it. It's not here or there. I can't say he attention. Did this. Because i i'm not in that room but it essentially led to justification of brooklyn He wasn't really big of owner. There was like what one percent in his money back from that. So it's kinda like it was a failed venture to begin with but go ahead so i have. I have three on each side. We have we share the we share brooklyn nets. And you're right that one percent thing at like you basically you lynch your name to it but it was presented like this jays and even now i was in new york recently and i asked well not recently within the last years have you and i was on a train and it was like where do i get off at jay z. And i was like fuck. You mean they said the nets. Oh got it. i'll say that. My favorite ventures include jay z and alcohol. You say do say an armidale. Tasty deal doesn't exist anymore. I'll take but do say. Is this shit. If i do say so myself because i do say so. 'self i do not so. Let's see the other one. We're probably be rock aware. I wore a lot of rockaway. Or what have you and it may not. He's obviously not designing clothes. What heavy but you know. he's attached. He's facing almost bind. Because dame dash wearing or what have you or had his name attached to it it was rappers and him being at the forefront. So that'll be that. And the other one i have is The forty forty club okay. So forty forty club is dope is still open. Having that connection there it just works dino kind of opened up the opportunity. Thank for roc nation. Sports and i think that that's a good longterm venture in like jay z. Has a club under the other. Not so hot ventures. I have two other ones best got. Carter's the reeboks those trash they were bad. And lastly because we already had the brooklyn nets thing. Lastly magna carta holy grail. Holy was that bad as literally. That was the first time. I said fuck you to an artist. And here's the thing. So the last three physical cds purchased were magna carta. Holy grail clear not open by the way mainly car holy grail. The kayak album had blacks get hit on it and the kid cutting i had all three of those are still not open a purchase reopen. Any of them. I was seldom bischel ebay for two hundred bucks apiece. You're sitting there in probably like we done in come. Who knows 'cause. I'm gonna ask you do a nasty nigga so i will air one more to the pros for me. And that's rock nation. Roc nation has been a very interesting venue for jay in. I think it's a positive because like we mentioned before it's of artists and now he has a sports agency. Branch today is adding more to the wheel itself. So i'll add that also. Okay yeah i'm with it You yeah he he kinda fuck new york over two. So let's talk about favorite feud and least favorite food. I think feuds are part of hip hop us are part of business. So i think there's not many answers in in terms of his favorite your favorite few that he was involved in. What what would you say. Well you got to be jay z. And nas i wanna say lance the closest chance of going to jail only. He'll his great. It stabbed brecca's your excuse was you were talking to reckless. I mean to me it was but it's definitely not yeah because it was on record a wags and that's all we want like with rambis is credited music like we'll care about honestly. I don't care about street. Shit never will not a street person. So i don't really of course so when it comes to music i listened to do. That's how i like you like with. Takeover was originally full-body. He just that now's verse at the end of it. Just say fuck it. A fucking love this in i- unpopular opinion. You're really gonna. Hey i could be wrong about to say takeovers e for look takeover a lot o- takeovers better this takeovers better because he had to do super ugly fair enough. And we don't we don't call it getting taken over. We call it. Third less sure hugging the i'd say if it was a big moment and that's why for one but for create rob browns and i never want to go back to the rock music. Ever again e boy. Yes yes this going to be the intro out your asshole for that. We're playing all of it. Holy shit least-favoured. In this is where some of my phantom my come in. what is your least favorite. Few jay z. Said i hated danes. I hit their break-up best. That'd be the most obvious. Answer to say dame so i'll say i didn't like his camera at all it because it may look very jealous is a savage. Yeah it'd be very jealous and then camera made it very whoa like once. Granted camera meet. There should very funny looker. Talk about to say those forty years old and a top folk. i mean. that's a similar shot in dallas Boho listening to that whole few j. through the first one we'll we'll get the road and that was a good verse but there was my least favorite because i thought it was to be more. You know spicier was because there was professional animosity between the two you could tell so but they have rallied. my least favorite. I have several. I want to throw out there. Am i going to go on any in depth at him. But i know you're gonna remember them. I don't like the funeral actor few with him and I don't like the the. I think the ones that some of your successes attached to fuse with them. That's just comes off as weird to me. I agree so like the fake or contri- few with him and beyond saying we're you know every think is fine. Yeah but this. Is this one here. That is my least favorite. And i think you'll find this fucking hilarious okay. Stevenson blow the whistle. You know what's funny. I was shocked. Social boy not get on top and admitted this song about it. No these marcy you know fuck day. My least favorite jay z field was versus mc hammer. That was a firefighter though. Dallas page a court case soap operas by nc hammered. A whole this so it may break this run. Run run run. Oh yeah oh fuck fucking plane. That he had the nineties hamadou hurt him. Please don't hurt him. I was like first of all. Tell me jones level selling. you must've forgotten. I was the energy there. It was but it was so bad. I remembered issue world star hip hop or something like that you know why does habit district and get what all over one little line which was a punchline is fucking great it's great. I love this alleged pop. The bet like the studio roc nation. Like hey i heard you talking shit people out a gun and then jay has the fuck did a tight right. Avoid getting shot at. Oh you step monica. Emphasis a ruckus. Ha hammer dance all right now. This one it the Options the options are limited here because the criteria for this next question favorite collaborative project fi like a song so already have the are. We have pre listed answers here so out of these four and he's like albums or like legitimate. Ap's produce actually. What's my favorite. Can i rank them. Yes you can rank them. One of them is going to be combined. So oh lincoln park okay. Uh both best of both worlds. Watch the throne okay. The carter's those four options. So i go. This is going to go worse okay. So the worst is obviously best of both worlds. Both albums were total. The first album was fine. The first three tracks on that album. We're good the rest. That's second album was total dog. Shit it was made it. Big chips was the worse for big chips. The worst fucking song ever heard of both worlds. Oh god i was so. She said robert so absolutely happy he. Pepper sprayed r kelly. Hello full of life here. Robert robert what was tell mo holiday inn. Who's the they. Oh dear lord tonight. Oh my god this is. Why didn't want to be guilty to proven innocent. I was like. Are you sure you want to reference this on your fucking roc la familia album. I was just saying dealing of this collaborative relationship. I can make some pedal money. Oh my gosh. With mr initial well with this nigga wearing a mask or was he wearing fedora. Need would you days the if it came on probably okay. That's a fire song. That is a fire. The esta underage. Fiesta go over. God my second least favorite. Which isn't a shot. You're shot to good lincoln park ajay album. It was a good album. Get me wrong. But i liked better gone. The carters is number two for me. Yeah can't deny its power. That number one is of course as wash the throw number one fire. Nothing it's under it. One when i came out and now you re listen to it now. It's kinda like damn. It's almost ten years of hits o'hare i know. Actually this thing is oh two thousand eleven sit. Fantasy came out two thousand ten. You're right no you're right you're right you're stretch. I don't know what drugs he was on but they were to go once e-even talent nigga. Oh my god what. i heard. Prompt or murder to excellence. I mean what you need. What i heard otis. I just lost my shit. And i was like these are just get loosened a vehicle right now destroy like i and it kinda helped going over a little bit. Yeah with no church in a while. Yeah. my ranking is very similar. Go top to bottom okay. It's the same order except for the card isn't listed. Because i've not listened to that and i won't. It was actually a really good. I won't get that know why you won't listen to spin it. Why because you hated that. Whole dynamic of i cheated on her. She cheated on a i got cheated on. Fillings at fifty blah blah blah carlton blah that whole contrived arca fuck all of that shit way. No one is from them. Not you know. Yeah it's like. I heard as i told the girl face and page. I just told her well here. That beyond says he's got a better bars than jay on this album. She's like say wrapping. So i'll pass. I love beyond say rapid. But that's the ngo. I need beyond say. Don't beyonce he does. and i don't for her robbing fair enough. Don't listen to lemonade. then i was eliminate. I don't remember what was that. I'm wrong lemonade album. That limited was phenomenal. So this is the last question i have. Okay what are you looking for. A jay z in the future. And you know. He's where he's he doesn't really do anything for anyone other than black and have terrible hair. What are you looking for in the future. So few things one. I want see more out of this. Nfl initiative that they've been proposing because when he came out it was a bad look was a bad luck. The quote came out. Everybody quoted was taken out of context. In my opinion we way past nearly got taken out of context similar to how we pass leave. We got taken out of context. Kong was joyce. Es labor was a choice or republicans republican sneakers too. She's this is why he's he's jordan. I know i know so. We did hear that. The weekend is doing the super bowl this year. which after he got fucking robot. Grammy's fuck degrees go. Aquarius gang gang. Yeah so. I wanna see more out of than i do see the. Nfl is promoting social justice. Initiatives it's still feel like flow considering that the guy that was pushing for it is still out of the lead in infiltrate. Were beating a dead horse with this one. I think the. I think the nfl's pushed for that. Is your two highest. Paid players happen to be black. You can't just ignore that because if mahomes is like yuck can eat my dick. Because he's kind of like the face of that shit a little bit. Oh he is the face of the nfl right now. One the face of the social because he was that commercial. What have you. I am to be a rice. I was like oh shit. Get it the players that i can imagine. Roger goodell's face. Whatever patrick mahomes. He was i to me rice. It's like patrick. Mahomes came out of the portal winnie. Were fighting thanos. Fuck dammit this catcher beaten motherfucker. Goddamn it so. I wanna see that I'm not really looking for music from j. I mean. I think four four four was probably the way to say. I don't have to put out another album. But there's been a few people who've been talking to jada. Says he might have a project going away. So i am looking forward to it. I've heard of the two. Yeah artist attract. She's never seal league in my whole life. Yeah that was a flex and that may be felt poor for. I'm not here. She can get her money. I don't care what does color named after him by the way he does that. That's that's the level of fame that is claimed. Dude has so also want to see more of his social initiative at think that we have seen a lot of the older generation of rappers. I as more so being fought for change per se. Les we saw it with jesus gucci more slow. Ns a here on past almost trying to murder. You and i wanna pray the community together and whatnot. I'm for i'm for you know the older rappers growing up. And i like i like the fact that i got the. Cj grow up like that gucci mane's an petty because he's also an aquarius no gucci man was awesome commitments shit. He needs to be more movies. I thought his role. Spring breakers was the best part of that movie unpopular opinion. He has to run. The rains. teeth does the tribal chief the head of the table so But yeah. I would love to see more of his initiatives going forward. I love to see what he's planning ahead and that's about it. If he briefly music out there are here calling kick i. I mean mostly because 'cause it's been almost five years but hey jay was to put an album out whenever he wants to. He would've fucking wants to so that's for me Come on check that kendrick things like it's been that long. It's dan booze. What twenty three years. Really two thousand. Seventeen april okay. 'cause i was like i listened to that album a lot. I was like just five years ago. Because i really listened to petco but whatever i was just saying i love the s my favorite. Push it because your question before we get to mind if so jay z's color is blue. Right what would your color being if you've got into a place where it's like we got greg brown or whatever can we change carolina. Greg blue now. I can't be blue jays. Fine black greg black guy crumbs ownership. You're talking about it. Sounds like a very bad days. I love it. I mean might as well be rob gray. Okay wow that sounds like a singer does the point okay. Notice what i'm wearing. I mean so for me. i need more of. Jason is mauve. I need less of his cam. Newton hair that needs to go crazy less of him. Being this kind of art weirdo. And i don't like it seems contrived and i'm sure he likes art. He's art but it was. I heard about that. The art in fucking picasso baby. Well yeah. I remember that story. It wasn't great and it's like nah. You can't loan people. It's like well you payment. Was you being in a video. Now you pay for what they do protecting artist. Whatever but i need to like kind of some of the stuff that you said like. If you don't want to work out there doing the work i want to know more about your plan. I hear about the. I hear about when your name is attached to other like the nfl. Other things that have maligned kind of thing and they need to get over it back. In good graces of ultimately black people in jay. Z is a very easy conduit for that. So i need to see more of like what are you doing. Why are you here in. Wash- should i care about it. In lastly i need less of jay z. Being a mem- he's been a memo over the last five years. Okay so that pitcher of running in the sand is hilarious. The him one of him swimming the one of our own ski one of him running away from jay z's looking so wild and wash these days he's in the he's hitting to each row year fifty one and he's looking so i just have emotions now this crazy. So here's a real good question. Is jc still likable. In twenty twenty. I think jay z is more likable than he may have been days. Dinning was maybe after rockefeller went down. His is likable. Quantity has gone up. Also i don't think he's looked at as being indicative of the culture not being the case for like ten years. We have a complicated relationship because as you mentioned earlier how wash thrown really didn't get any love to should've when it came out there was a lot of i don't know what he's talking about. Was that high fashion art. All of this shit they were talking about it and is it seemed like rich music And i remember that as a criticism which i've never. He created a new branch of criticism. So yeah him. I will agree with you at the that a lot of stuff that and it reminded me and i'll use it as us compared to the carter. Holy grail and four date mandy carter. Holy grail was his least liked late. You couldn't like him because he tied in out in the fucking samsung and all he talked about was art in pretentious should and then when he finally explained like in four four four way finally explain what he was doing. It man carly grow like why did you say to earlier when he finally put down and says talk about a failures my weaknesses every day and just put it out there. I was like nasty moment. Where i hate using this phrase. You're gonna kill before. The moment where superman took is capable. He was called. Can't see what me news gonna hate it. Lets you know fine. It was like it was an unmasking moment for me. 'cause like out we're we're really killing the monitor. Jay z to dc. Sean carter to the world. So he achieved himself is what you're saying. Well this is a question i have. Okay would stack of four. Well is jay z. This is p. This'll be the last question i have in terms about. Okay where's i know you're standing out for four four four right in terms of enjoy ability. Where did where did he hit his peak. And the here's my case right here. Okay the violent two and three. I use maybe even throwing the dynasty compared it to the following four albums right okay. So if after dynasty the blueprint one two blueprints. Good blueprint to gift and curse. Okay best. I didn't like it double albums but okay at best. Maybe a good album. If you filter through then you get the black album kingdom come which i did not like then you have then you have american gangster and blueprint three blueprint. Three in magna carta. Holy grail were duds back to back to me. And i think what a concept album is just like where j. those three albums together. It was a wears jay. And then this one we four. Where would you say his peak is feel like he did this kinda and he's coming back it's got is a pecan valley Because i would say reasonable doubt value one in value to where a strong three piece addict volume one is very under appreciate it very under appreciated album For me his peak will probably be blueprint. that was his apex. Mountain of sorry about aki colic. No no no no no. that's fine. that's fine the peak of the diamond. That was that was a suffocating murder by on his own track. Don't agree with that either. I know you have eminem hate. But that's what happened on that. No i don't have now. You just don't agree with i re- albums were fire. The last whatever bit it but this was this was in that period of time. By the way. I know it was and i liked his vs on chronic Two thousand one but no beat april metric like bias. Copy bias on that one out okay. Very buys on our. But that's my apex. I will say a lot of oh. Of course that was co production late. Takeover was phenomenal. I mean girls. Girls girls remixed though. Yeah well flip the michael jackson and i now the just blaze did his thing when that too. Yeah you don't know fucking lose my shit ever got anti gosh well so many. So many fire tracks Even the ruler's back is fire intro so his valley starts for me and i got to be blueprint three really yeah to me. I still think matt mccarter. Holy grail was his worst album. And i'm gonna get a whole ship for that. Cato covers bad kingdom come as a badge. Easy album. I think if anybody else came up with that album it might have been a saving grace for them. I don kingdom come was bad. 'cause it sounded like an aged in two thousand and two. You know that was like the biggest gap between albums up until you got to make the call the holy grail right now because blueprint three was weird income him coming out of retirement by the way and to come back jordan with the four five. Well the only reason why. I don't call came. Compass valley is because american gates. It was just that good. Oh that's a year later. That's what i'm saying. American gangster was just that good it is. It's like i can't show me what she got wasn't that bad that's wash music. No washington playlists. Okay let let. Let's be ripples ripples for host. Okay well it is. It's a very richter scale for him tripoli because two years before collision course. That was a good one. I would defend him to come right now. Oh god i'm gonna do it. I'm going to los angeles bottle there. Though the first three songs were good. Oh my god what are you saying. I'm sorry the first two songs. Oh my god it was good kingdom come was fire my god. I don't remember life would be with hp hr without the boy hov only savior. I'm going to skip all this also. Lost one was good. This kind of has the streets as watching the going is so we've got sucked angle. This is what try to bring. Somebody like raul ian. Do you want to write was thirty. Something was okay for like people over forty. My thirty selfie thirty twenty. Nick also has still here. Here's the interesting thing. And how is this array. Oh god so which which. Who's who song was change. Clothes was black. So i think that's the co girl faces album and i was like i'm just like man you know what's funny but that's my least favorite song at album in. My favorite song is by ferrall on that and that was the law. That's my favorite song. Lindblad brown c. J. was making music for me from a blueprint disappointed me so much welfare of because i hate it blueprints who didn't come back into blueprint three okay. So seven years. J i will get you points because track eight through. Eleven on kingdom come is absolute trash. He s not great. I made it anything featured usher for with Hollywood was the worst. Jay z and beyonce say solid together. That's including owed three bonnie and clyde because that's it was bad health. Excuse me miss by the way. I love this. Kobe was fired. Oh yeah it was Dig a hole. Was that was a swiss on mir swiss. Have a love hate relationship. Do not report was good thing to say in how. I don't even know how to describe peach share so let's just delve into just going through this. Do this so i. I guess that's what we have. Jay z music now. Because i feel like. I need to revisit the bounce. Oh man i'm like. American gangster is like one of those i can listen to it just like talk mash it about people with Listen ignorance really. Yeah as favorite hill song. I might listen to that. Because i like a little hill. Shit yeah so. Social media is all of that shit. Happy birthday jay z. I hope you don't listen to this. Do put it doesn't have social media big show to you greg forgetting Rosario dawson to like your poster. Yeah thank you. She's she was looking delicious. I was watching the girl face. I was like oh my future ex wife is in. This was like the fucking saying. Oh shit you're here so social media vanni it's the grab unofficially underscored black underscored. Mtr about you just to rob you can find me hanging around the gallows ropley lordly. Mtr tweets graham mtr. Podcast look first of all of the social media platforms under those animals and check out this feed-in all of our offerings through. Mtr podcastone history on on apple and spotify and places. Yeah spotify spotify. We've totally disappointed. That was. I was looking as i touted as a whole podcast guy. You have a deal about st untouchable. Break breakable sake. The minute for greg. Just for for for just pays just none of just glaze own my god just a fat turkey negative. Are you changing but the just lease dang might be your name. Oh my god. And i'm calling breast we got into aching. They're walking tugging on Unofficially black and i've disappointed myself until next time. Catholic boys and girls out like share subscribe and all of that stuff. See on the flip side. It's the wreck. Those another rockefeller reference steven away right through side.

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Introducing The Human Algorithm

You Can't Make This Up

09:35 min | 2 years ago

Introducing The Human Algorithm

"Welcome to you can't make this up a companion podcast from net. Flicks. I'm revolt a host of you can't make this up this week. We're doing something a little bit different. How do you find your new obsessions? If you're like me, you ask your friends. And now, there's a podcast just for that. Allow me to introduce to you the human algorithm each week on the human algorithm, we curate recommendations from Netflix employees. Netflix stars and all your favorite people from around the World Wide Web, recently, we compile the list of true crime, documentaries that you don't wanna miss on networks, we figured you might want to add them to your watchlist to now. Here's the human author of them. This is the human algorithm with so many great titles on that books. We're here to help you pick. What to watch next in this episode? We've collected shows will make any true crime nerd super happy. Here at Netflix. We've got more than just making murderer for fans the true crime genre. We've got other documentaries are sleeve. Just for you. First. We have Adrian Seymour from ours. The new black recommending the staircase. Hey, my name is Adrian see more. But you know, me best as black Cindy over Hayes. The show that I'm watching on Netflix right now pretty much any documentary that they have I've been really into the crime show documentaries. So making a murder, I've been watching Khalif Browder the crime show that sticks out the most to me right now is the staircase because there are so many plausible explanations to what happened, and I don't know if you've watched or you know, what I'm talking about. But I really do think it was an owl like the guy who later came and said that you look at the markings on our school. It looks like she was scratched on her head by a Claude animal, and I think it was an hour as they have a lot of those kind of sightings in their town. So how many blows to the head would be made by this Trident form? And he said, Well, I I really don't know it's very unusual shape. And that's because. It wasn't blunt force trauma was made by the Al when you look at the wounds on Kathleen's head the Siri that a rapt better caused those wounds is pretty persuasive. I watched crime documentary. So I avoid them myself and my real life. But no, I didn't always watch crime documentaries as much as I didn't really watch prison, you know, shows, but I found them intriguing in terms of the figuring out, and, you know, working through a crime backwards, and you know, trying to bring Justice to the individual that was victimized, and I just love the puzzle aspect of it and the the Mays and the uncovering and the unfolding in the solving the clues and so forth and so on. So that's how I got into crime show documentaries to watch these crime shows, I think it depends on what you can stomach. I'm the kind of person. I can I can literally. On a Saturday watch sunup to sundown, you know on binge-watch. But then after watching so many I'll have to give myself a break, you know, for a few weeks or a few months because it is the emotional toll that they do take on. I think it's excellent storytelling. How the editors piece together the crime and the the clues and the evidence and how they sort of recreate the scenario and a really good editor would just leave you hanging. You know, like what really did happen? Hi, my name's yet HANA, and I am in trouble from here. I just watched the craziest documentary called objected in plain sight, which is amazing. It's absolutely insane. I watched it on a plane, and I definitely shouldn't don't watch it on a plane to watch it with friends watch it on your own because you're gonna rip your TV out of it. It's about this child that gets -ducted multiple times right in front of like the eyes of her parents. It's even crazier because this man is he's not a monster. He just is human being who was a master manipulator. I think the mother and the father really stuck out to me in this documentary, just because they go through psychological hell and the things that they do without even knowing what they're doing. I'm really trying not to say too much, but they do a lot of crazy things to kind of save their daughter. But at the end of the day, they're kind of hurting her even more, and they're just clueless about everything we weren't really shoe, even then what a child molester was, you know. And. I tell you. I don't know how we could have been so gullible. Well, this this documentary does have the interview element. You get to know the real people, which is harder to judge them. Because if this were to be a movie, it would it would just be too hard to believe, you know, this could actually happen to someone. But the fact that you have the real people they are just makes it so much more insane. They play out the whole story in a very cinematic ways that makes you feel like it's a movie in moments, and then they kind of slap you in the face with the real person. So you you don't get that chance of like, oh, this is fake. So that's kind of cool makes it so much more interesting. I think people should watch it. With a whiskey. The good whiskey or two or your choice of alcohol, really. And if you're not aged just I don't know just walk watch it with like a couple of water or something. But definitely don't like relax and sit back you you're going to be at the edge of your seat. The for the majority of the documentary. Hi, m Taryn manning, I played Penza Taki and. Well, I recommend that you should watch evil genius. Threes. A why I took to this particular documentary? It was very enlightening. It also disturbing and very morbid just how calculated and smart, hence, the title people people can be in just for how long they can get away with with such heinous murders in how they can sort recruit a wrangle others into their into their lifestyle, and by by manipulation and gas lighting, and and I think just diabolical narcissism. And for me, I love to learn. So though, it was very dark and very hard to watch. There's a learning lesson in it because these people are all around us. And and it just it just, you know, it just opens up your mind to like how does this happen to somebody? Is there a cure for this type of thing, you know, even down to the end this woman, just pleading dot her just a manipulation just? Don't stop in. And you just see just such a level of sickness, but this person still roaming, the planet working and thriving. And you're just it just it's fascinating. Like I said, but it's disturbing can have to be right. You know, there's some really tough parts to watch. But I thought it was very well made in that chronicle everything pretty accurately. And I it was just it was very compelling. Like, you just couldn't not watch it. I personally watched it all at once. Yeah. I recommend it even people that they know all of documentaries on like, I know you don't love documentaries out much. But like there's something about this. That's like beyond words in every single person that I told was like do were hooked. And they're, you know, one of my friends is watching it with all his guy friends, and they are all hooked, and I watched it alone. But you know, it's not like it's like a ghost is going to pop out and you have to be scared. It's really just wow. These people are actually are out there, and they live out there, and they get away with this stuff for so. So long. But my point is is like, I guess the good part about it is that all darkness does come to light. And that we can get away with in this life, even if it's thirty years from now, I mean, you know, if your life's crappy, and you just don't know why like maybe it's time to look at some of the things that you do or treat people or I don't know just don't say anybody's a murderer. But like it, you know, it all it all comes out. I love all these docs, make sure to Mark these shows down on your list, the staircase abducted in plain, sight and evil genius. If you want weekly themed recommendations made just for you subscribe to the human algorithm. Wherever you listen to this show. We'll be back soon with a new true crime interview for your listening. Pleasure. Don't forget to subscribe rate and review this podcast. All right. That's enough for now. Thanks for listening.

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Episode 110 - Were We CyberPUNKED?!

Gaming illuminaughty

1:35:51 hr | 5 months ago

Episode 110 - Were We CyberPUNKED?!

"What's going on internet? The black guy? Guray? K a t v h and to be honest like to welcome you guys back to the game and Illuminati podcast. We are the enlightened Gamers and this is episode 110. If you're watching the video version know that the show is available on Apple's off of SoundCloud and all other major podcast platforms. Although I don't know how much longer it's going to be on Soundcloud cuz you only really be supporting over there and waste of money. But anyways, before we get into it, I like to remind everyone to write the shelf life stars on Apple your five star rating helps us move up the algorithm. But other than that, let me introduce you out to my co-host the first of which has been dropping crazy in bombs on stream. It's like he's faced dubs or something. You know, I thought that people utxjgthedon go. Whoa, I said Knitters, excuse me, so I can get that get that right? I'm not trying to give band. Oh baby. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. You'll be my second co-host. He's the plug for the Xbox series X. So if you need one, he got you just don't expect any games cuz they don't got nothing but you know, say what up to the people eat those actually they do have a game now and excuse me. Of you still talk about today. I said I was just going to say it's fucking funny what we get into the show. I just know if you're actually a PC Gamer even if you're not a gamer cuz you can just download the epic game store and claim the games. They're actually giving away fifteen free games like the next 15 days or whatever and like you probably going to miss something by the time you hear this podcast, but like there's a bunch of really good games on your like cities skylines freaking stranded deep Jurassic world Evolution towards light to there's like there's a bunch they're giving away free games every day for 15 days straight. So make sure to check the Epic game store off. You can get those free games and build up that PC list. But yeah Chinese spyware seems to be doing better than steam. Okay, you know, I like the epic game store more than staying at this point. I agree. I've been enjoying a bit. I feel like the downloading system is way better. I like the interface. The interface is ugly on Steam now, I don't know what happened with them. But in the free game, so whatever y'all keep hating, keep getting these free games bringing home. Does get into the show starting conversation the biggest game of the century. We've been waiting for this game since it was originally announced back in what 2012-2013 it was delay after delay after delay. It was to the point where I was young. I thought the game was actually going to come out in 2077 but no no no, I mean it barely it tripped into twenty-twenty it barely tripped but it made it cyberpunk 2077 was released and we're about to talk about our first impressions of the game. Although eat those beaded already, but I don't think me and Jay have talked about our impressions of the game all the news and dramas surrounding it. This is going to be there's going to be there's going to be a good one. I feel like he doesn't have a lot to say so I'm actually going to take the flow on this one. I'm a start going to get my yeah, your mother fucking liar. You gotta find a way to hire you all fucking liar a tribute 60% You been having this game the last two years. I'm being bullied into this. I really have somebody short and sweet for it. But ever since we saw it at E3 was a 2018 or whatever. You've been higher wage. This should through the fucking room. You better talk here. There's something bullying and talking about a game. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So my impressions of this game, I would find like in general the game you can talk gameplay the world whatever I like the game. I do like the game despite all of its problems, but you don't ya do ya do ya know I you know important internet. Nope. You can't be nuanced like that bro, you know, I do like the game. I think the world is gorgeous. I think the dialogue is interesting for the most part actually. So I find The Sideburns to be more entertaining than the actual main story and maybe it's cuz I haven't I'm only like fifteen hours in maybe I haven't made it far enough into actually where the story picks up what actor you in if you don't mind me asking. What was the last one? I did I did. I just bought a car for you to give specifics without spoiling people or yeah, so the, you know know shorty from like I think she's from the wastelands, huh? Yeah just finished like that area where I had to Hawaii birth. I just finished that and then I went off and did some side missions the ship and people were saying that like I was like sixty seventy percent done with the story. All right. I was like wait. What is that? True? I remember when I was perspective like no, I don't think you're sixty your maybe close to almost the halfway point. The game is deceptively long or short depending on how you take it. It's it's it's where we can talk about further. But yeah, it's weird so long, I think everything about it in terms of the world the colors the characters that dialogue is very well done. It reminds me a lot of it feels like Deus Ex means fall out to me. But is this like the revolution like is the evolution of revolution of games that like people were saying is going to be in my opinion know and this is not I'm gonna be honest based off what I played already. This ain't even in my top five. I put it in the top ten, but I think it's cuz I'm a game play a game play first type person the game plays so far doesn't really do it for me that much it's good. It's serviceable, but it feels like it's just kind of getting me from point A to B it. I don't really feel inspired to play this game. I have a game. And some type of mood to play it and the reason I'm what I'm just curious what like what builds where you go over or so. My goal was to make the coolest Niger in cyberpunk. So I've been putting all my points and cool. And then if that's the stove tree if you guys haven't played it, I was under the impression that I was going to actually make a cool last character and then I realized the stealth build. Yeah, so fucking Stone bills off at about that. But whatever I wanted to play stealthy anyway, so I put most my points on stealth and then I realize I couldn't fucking steal cars which is one of my cats like I don't like about this game. You have to have a certain level of strength to even steal a car that strength. Yeah. That was that was whack. So I had to put some points on and strength and then I put some points on I think my intelligence or whatever but it's mostly it's mostly a stealth build the game play game and the shooting it's like average-at-best. I'm gonna be honest Call of Duty Cold War. You don't have been treating. No. I don't know. I don't want to say I don't it just doesn't do it for me. I was surprised by it. I felt like the opposite I fell off. Was I was genuinely going into it expecting to feel like Fallout 4 shooting like really not that good and it end up being better than I was like, it feels almost doomed fish. What? Yeah, it's hard to explain. I would actually say it's comparable to fall out in terms of like it just wouldn't then special I would say it depends on what guns you find but like the thing that I this virus our fire the snipers, yeah see the problem with the game is that like a lot of the game doesn't start to click right away. It starts to get really good the game play wise it starts to get really good as you start to unlock more stuff. I think they do something other than extreme. But like the thing they were saying in the thing is like it's totally true the guns start to feel better the more you use them. So like as you know, like the more you start killing people like anything if you run more you'll get Yeah, the more you do whatever you didn't do and actually get better like a human Diamond notice like yeah, my characters like wage is like add a cool intelligence bill with technical abilities. I was like a very like hacking with stealth mechanics and I noticed as time went on I really started put a lot of my stuff into like the handguns and revolvers and like the gun down. Pay for them start to feel so much better when I hit like like I think it was like power 22 or 30 around there. Like when I hit around there like my level up system. I was like pretty high up on that skill tree for that off the gun start to feel like surprisingly good like really good and I kind of said that the people before I don't know if you even like the double jump yet in the game. But yeah, once you unlock the double jump it completely changes the combat like Loop like it feels almost Dooms du Mich like I've seen some other people off on Twitter bring it up, but when I got the double jump, I didn't think much of it. I was like, okay this is going to be some like I have like Titanfall file of double jumps and games. I thought it would just be this cool thing, but it's surprisingly gives you way more like freedom and verticality when you're fighting people you could jump over cover and you can like hit him with abilities or throw grenades at them. You can Dodge out of the way and not all that cool stuff. I think a lot of it comes down to the game play is like what you build and if you enjoy that build or not, but I do I do see how I do agree with you like I do think there are aspects of the gameplay where it can be kind of like dead. It's I then there's other areas that are really good. So I think with the city too, I was actually a little bit disappointed because like after you've finished the prologue and then you first get into that one little metro area. I was like yo, the world is vital like it's popping like people were having conversations. So I was like, oh my God, it's going to be another hundred our game like a massive attack or something where I'm going to indulge in it. But the more I played the more I like I less I care about the city that the reason is once it opens up and you start driving around there's really not much going on in the city, like you'll find like little things here going here and there but it's like it's not as immersive as they made it seem like in the trailers. It's off the pretty empty open world for the most part. What do you what do you mean by that? Like, what do you mean by like, it seems like empty like you just mean as like the way you interact with the city or I was expecting more like Dynamic events wage and maybe cuz I'm only fifteen hours into the game, but I was expecting more Dynamic advance in the streets versus like it's literally just people just walking up and down the sidewalk and most of them are not even talking her saying anything. It's it's GT. Yeah, I do I enjoy I I think that's like the weakest point of the game is the the the simulation of the excuse me of the like World state of like how like the non important characters interact with the world is kind of a joke. It's not even really that deep and some of it's straight up just busted where I think like that's like the weakest aspects of the game. I do think though that like where you find those like, oh, what you're looking for is a lot. What I found is in the side quests and the gigs. I don't know if you've seen the gigs or ran around them, but the gigs are surprisingly very in-depth with like World War and I do a lot of very interesting things that I wasn't expecting for like a what supposed to be like, so I'll give an example is so the gigs are very similar. They remind me to like kind of settlement system from Fallout 4 where like they do like I got a new song need you to go do this, right but it was always the same thing right you go to this location you clear it out or some like that and then it would be the same thing no matter what gigs are similar weather like there's some there's similar format to that. But the thing I've noticed is that there's no Way more added lure and insight into the world in these big areas and there are like in like other games and that's like I really did appreciate about them. I do I do agree with you though on the on the perspective of like the the open-world like not dynamic as in like I'm walking down the street and like I think it happened at one time. But like I think two people were yelling at each other about some shit and they had a moment or something and then they started each other that was actually pretty funny. But like I do agree, I don't think there's enough of that in the world. Yeah, definitely great freaking how do you feel about those those rewind missions when she had to like an through somebody's brain through the camera not fucking hated that shit. I like one was bugged for me for a good minute. I had to like break the game myself in order to be to fix it. But like one like I don't want to know which one it was, but it was actually really cool what I feel like it depends some of them I think are fun because they make me feel like a detect like a Batman detective but other ones who are like so irritated like irritating and long that was dead. I don't I like I felt like it hurts the pacing a little bit especially the main mission ones. I know which I bet I know which one you're talking about when you're trying to find homegirl, you're going through like the brain dances and stuff. Like that one was just like I was like, I don't feel like I need to do it this long. But yeah, I would say I'm like indifferent to it. I don't I think it's not even like a good thing if it was taken out of the game. I don't think I would have been less for it so often they should have took this shit out. They just took it out. I just didn't know it was acquired. Uh, I'm in how you feel about you. Yeah, how do you spell so terrible? So just a bit of context about my game experience. I've never played this section. I never played Fallout. So me going into it. I might totally new to this type of genre wage would say and I was kind of like having the same first impression like being like four hours into the game is TBH the game wasn't worth. We'd be at first like story-wise. I thought that it was cool. But gameplay-wise in the very beginning stages when you are just a new band. You don't have anything leveled up right? That's when I found that it was not entertaining at first, but when I got to like our eight hour 10:00, I had a aha moment because I am a literally you were in the Stream as I found this okay while I was in the middle of my terrible stealth. I was looking at the freaking skill tree and I was like, oh my god, there are multiple tabs. It took me a while to notice that too. Yeah. I felt dumb. I was like, wow, this is this is crazy. So you're telling me yeah, there are multiple ways. I can literally build my character and I think when that moment came about because I was even find with how it would look so you thought origination depth of it. I'm sorry. So you just saw originally the Dead Just adding the points to the original five things. And that was it. You thought that was like all was well. Yes, yes or no because again I did I did see the skills that you can get within each tree. Like I did see that part off and I thought that it just stopped there, right? Oh just look at it. Yeah, I would just looking at all of the all of these killers what they need Street. Yeah, just the first half just the first tab. Yeah, the first half of each category was what I was looking at and I was like, okay like it's cool. But I thought that that was it for each category. So I'll like okay like all right. I'm terrible. It's still maybe I can build a couple of cell cuz I would like 2 days to like I want to be the coolest Nikki Industries right down the street, but I was like, oh man this ship is still so I was like, I don't necessarily want to do that. Maybe I want to do intelligence. And of course I want to you know, I want to shoot Niger. So I was I was working on that category when I when I saw the tabs, I was like wait a minute. There's a blade category and I was like, wow, maybe I can try for this because if they are expanding so much on using blades off. Maybe I could just expand on that and then just become like a trace samurai forever. Yeah, so they kind of opened my eyes on like wow, like I there are really multiple ways that you can build your character off and I think when I actually saw that it kind of like changed the gear in my head on how to approach this game and so like from from then on forward as I continued through the game, I think I'm going to get further into it, but I think one of my main issues and it's just for me personally and and I've already found this to be an issue. I knew that it was going to be bad just because a lot of these games are so long and I literally just got done with spending eighty two hours playing Assassin's Creed Valhalla, and now it's their felt like a job. It felt like a job and I was like, okay I want to try to page as soon as possible but I wasn't able to be there before cyberpunk came out but I was knew I had to play it. So I was like no I want to try to be cyberpunk as quickly as possible. But I kind of feel like I'm doing myself a disservice by doing that so I might wage. Just try some side missions. I do kind of just want to grind through the main story, but I think just because I'm burnt out playing these long-ass games that I'm in cyberpunk a different way and that's just me personally. I'm not giving the knock-on cyberpunk because of that but it's just hard it's difficult, especially in my situation where I don't have infinite time to play these games so I gotta kind of gotta pick and choose so. Give you some advice on that go it so my advice would be honestly like and I mean this sincerely I would actually tell you there's to stop playing cyberpunk for now, I'd rather you just like I contemplated off. Yeah, and I feel like that honestly like I don't blame anyone for that. I think like not only like the bug stuff and everything else that I feel like in January February this might that might be the best time to than like go back into it, but like from my experience with the grand, this is like me with 90 hours playing it you drastically hurt yourself if you try to bum rush through the game and just complete the main missions and you don't touch any of the side stuff like you will ask him. Side quests are far more entertaining than what I saw. This is Jeff people talk about like surprising even like I agreed like it's the most some of the best writing in this entire game are the side quest stuff like it is really some like some talk to yourself. I've seen in this like and people are Infamous about Witcher 3 having the same aspect but like cyberpunks writing is really good like insanely good and what I will warn you is is that people who try to rush through the main story and they barely touching the side missions or barely get to know the side characters. They will get in my opinion a way less a worse I'd say, yeah a worse experience the cyberpunk and I and I would say maybe this is a detriment to the game because then it doesn't service every type of player but like the story will actually change based off of stuff you do in certain cyclists, but if you don't touch the side quests above it can screw your main story experience pretty badly. So my advice would honestly be like I would say like, you know, and I I told this like a lot of people which is just like find the time that you want job. And not feel like never feel compelled just because this is the current hot game and everybody's got to talk about it that like I need to bum-rush it envious. I scared cuz I feel like you're really hurt your like your overall experience playing the game. If you like run through real fast as possible and Skip stuff. Yeah those oh, that's something that I was struggling with and that's why it's like I don't even know if I wanted to stream it. I don't even know if I wanted to definitively give an opinion on the game because it's like once I had the first day I met the first two days. It was out. I was going hard on it and then I got out of the prologue and I opened the map and I saw all the shit on the map. I literally so I was like and like zombies legit overweight. I'm trying to figure out, do I is the game agitating me because I'm long as it's long or is it honestly because honestly, I'm between what's going on with me in my own personal life fucking covid-19. Mentally known know like in the Bed Race. Yeah drain and it's like I'm just not in the mood for this shit. So I've been playing it when I want to and like I found I'm starting to enjoy it more but even still like I am disappointed in the fact that I've know what off. I didn't have a crazy expectations. But all the hype that they had over these past eight years you would I would feel like they'd done something a little bit. I haven't found anything Innovative in the game yet everyone about it. Just really well done though. Yeah. So that's the one thing I think is ambitious about this game that I give them credit for is I I do agree from a game-play standpoint. I don't think there's anything in this game where it's like, oh my god. I've never seen that before. This is innovative. I think it basically accumulates a lot of the stuff that's been kind of like Ubisoft like accumulates a lot of the stuff that's been like considered required or or what people expect and then on top of it does like its own twist to it and I think that's like about it's kind of like I feel like this is very angry with u t h i feel like this is like for me what I wanted and exactly one and that's what the game delivers on is. It is basically Deus Ex and open world setting it feels like like you could tell like they dead played Deus Ex like mankind divided in so I'm not telling you got no, you're right on the mark. Yes. I understand good day is like $5 for this game. Like the way the the way that you can tackle different situations the way you can log. You know find different ways of like reaching the objective like it's like very hard core Deus Ex the the thing. I think the most Innovative thing about this game, which I been I was talking to some people in the Discord about it is that like this game is and I know this works menus a lot and I can kind of explain better. This is the most dense game I've ever played like, I don't think there's a single I don't think there's I can't tell you. How may I went to a mission? I picked up two more missions and that shit. Yeah. Well, not not that that's not only the tracker changes. Yeah, the check has changed but that's not what I really mean. I mean that like driving around night city is literally the most Innovative thing I've ever seen like the level of detail and immersion and different things like when you're driving around something and you're like experiencing the city. I don't think there's an open world game that even can remotely off from like a city standpoint. There's no game that even has that like level of depth to it that that like the top games. Like I really thought hard about I was like do any of these games do I think like dog? Walk around a city feel like like this and I really couldn't think of one. So like in that aspect I give it to them that like from a artistic standpoint and from a from a scale standpoint. This game is like in life and I really hope it does push more dads who make it more games to like push their their game worlds to be like this where it's not necessarily like a vow is a good example where it's not just like a mass of map, but I'd rather be a concentrated area of a map but it's just like there's a lot of density to that said area rather than just like make it just so far and wide long with like loads of like empty roses up. I guess that's like my only area where I would say like I would argue and say the game for me is very like Innovative. Like I I I can't name one game that I think comes close to this young but I I think that the cons of that is is that with that density comes comes like a lot of the technical issues that the game currently has cuz like they put off more wage. Yeah, I think I think they bit off more that they can chew and I think too like obviously like man as much this comes back in the last podcast as much as I personally would have in hindsight. I'm okay with it. But before without hindsight, I would have hated it was like it like they should have delayed it longer. I actually agree they should have had the phone I no longer but like I empathize with the fact that like that would have been a death sentence because I'm telling you now like like remember my state when they delayed it like to December and I was like, I swear to God if this game gets delayed one more time, like people were going to be done with them, but I think relay it another year I think maybe and they could have came up with a bullshit ass excuse of why it's not coming to the PS4 and the Xbox one and it would have launched strictly negligent, which should have happened long. Yeah. I feel like I said hindsight on I realized watching the old podcast cuz he's brought up this exact scenario of like we like they delayed because of his I remember like even JD was talking to me about it. I was getting mad. I was like, yo, just drop it on like what should I do? And just drop it on PC drop it on next-gen screw the last-gen like let them wait how like GTA did like make them wait a couple of months or something to fix the game. But oh my God, there's Lord Jesus Christ. There's like so many fukin. So let's talk. Let's talk about that because any other names were like, I can't even keep track. I feel like I feel like we haven't seen this level of shitstorm since maybe like Anthem probably gone. 76,000 miles 76. Yeah. Hi. Yeah. It's in that new YouTube 6-3. Yeah, definitely in there. But like I'd argue in some point. It's some areas. It's not as bad as those but in other areas, yeah, she goes. No, it's cuz it's actually a good game but not naked M fuking bugs friends like the bugs or yeah, like people on Twitter, like like people even in Discord like people in our Discord, like people are really trying to make an argument and say that this game like a worse overall launch like I guess anything overall maybe but it's like worse off than it was with like Fallout 76 or like no man sky and Anthony. I'm like, I think it's a lot of hindsight and people forgetting stuff because like the dog Up. The reason why this game is so difficult for a lot of people to like the new the discussion about this game. The reason why it's so fucking hard to like have a good discussion about this game is because what unfortunately has happened is a lot of times you have all these other issues compiling on the game. Usually it's because the game is bad like the game has a lot of core issues that have make it bad. The problem with cyberpunk is is that like, it's fun. It's a fun game. So it has the thing that no man's Sky have it was actually fun. And on top of that like you can see you can see that the game has sold like that you could see that like, yeah people cared about this game when they built it. It's just you can tell where like things got fucked up the middle and I think that's where like people are very conflicted about this game where it's just like there's no Nuance in the idea. I saw Khalif tweet this and a couple of other really good people doing this was just like it seems like people are so hardcore either like you hate it when you like it and no one can just agree that like, hey, I really love this game. I don't think it's perfect. I really love this game though, but I still can agree that a lot of the other shade is really fucked-up and really wrong which like is where I'm at Birth. Now with the game like I love it thoroughly but Grand like I agree with what you said you like I was hyped for this game since day one, but it's crazy to me that I was extremely hyped and somehow the game led up to my expectations outside of obviously the bugs butt off, you know, we're not going down play that cuz it is bad dog it. Oh, no, I I agree that it's bad. Like I'm not saying anything about what's happens. Like it's like, oh it's like that. I just don't think I I just think the reasoning why there's more people who are just like okay or or not. Okay, but like not really dealing with it as hard as like Fallout 76 or whatever is or it's like why is this game being a different stand in that one is because of the the unique situation that cyberpunk is in Fallout. 76 just wasn't a good game. It wasn't just a bug the game. That's that's that's what I'm saying. It's not a one-on-one comparison. I agree with you is like comparing apples to oranges. It's like I guess in a way different area. It's in the same realm of fucked-up. But the reasons why it's fucked up are in a when it works is good. But like I've found I've had I've had to reload some missions. I mean you've seen some clips like a dog Literally chasing one of them taxes for like five minutes and then a car spell and on top of me and I almost lost my shit cuz I was so close to getting him in fucking I almost honest all the games you piss so like if you have for like if there's a contact I was chasing him for a little no context I'm saying like I was like, why is he upset by this? I was like, yeah, so I was already frustrated explaining it. I was already frustrated cuz the police were shooting at me. It was hard to get that taxi and then wage respond on top of me and I lost him and I was like, are you fucking kidding me? I can get that. I totally like I totally like it's weird. I totally empathize with people but like I kind of set it in the last podcast and took her eight here and this is the most like terrible thing. I'm going to say and I'm sorry and I don't don't take it personally again, please don't take it person. I'm just saying as a joke, but like I kind of said it before the game came out. I kind of keep the same opinion like if you play this game on ps4 and you know think it's the worst game you've ever played in your entire life. Like I I honestly I just don't want to go that opinion cuz or I don't want to hear it cuz you're like you're playing on a really fucking old piece of piece of trash off. And the game is really pushing your Hardware to like in the same level. Not that it's okay the way that it came out. I still think it's terrible the way came out. But and on a hill broke out, I shagged same symptom in my house like the PS4 fuck the Xbox One version. If you're playing it on those games like you're set you're at you're setting yourself up to get fucked over. I think I based off what we know now you're setting yourself up, but but not before they found a bunch day. You can't say that to play Devil's Advocate. I would still say that CD projekt Red is gummy for this shit because I know I agree. I don't I don't see a lot of people talking about this. They they put out a statement talking about. Oh our folks took the next-gen and PC know we didn't know when the PS5 was going to come out until literally like last month. So how was that your focus your focus was on PS4 and PC. Okay. So you already had it for this. So here's my defense of that and I argue with no no mad and this is very important that people understand this is that developers get access to the consul Tech way before the consumers even know about it. So that doesn't change the fact that that was not their focus like they they they were working on the job. They announced the game one of the 2012-2013 that doesn't change the arguments. So I get I know they get development. It's completely changes. This is why I completely changed the the argument and it's very important. I see a lot of people yelling this eight-year thing out a lot of people don't understand how a game developer work. So I will explain this so people will at least if we have the conversation about this or if this is right or wrong at least your people aren't spewing out like false information about this. So the thing you have to understand is the game announced 2013. I think it was right thing. People have like memory loss about is that still a majority of the team that will CD projekt Red was working on Witcher when she didn't come out to 2015. So they were not working on cyberpunk outside home production stuff in between those years. So cut those years out just to begin with right. So 2015 comes out and they then they were working on DLC a year after that. So they had the hearts of stone and the big one the bloodline one page a majority of what your team was also still working on those. So if we're really being honest here cyberpunk didn't really hardcore get developed until the last three or four years and my math, right? Yeah, three or four four years, but give birth Sixteen so Seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty four years. Let's say four years, right? So within that 4 year span, that's when we're talking about like hardcore development of this game. Right? So if we're looking at 2018 2018 is the first year that you know, you and me song. So we all saw all together, right? This is around the time. We're like literally the last-gen consoles were on their last legs and the new gen consoles were already being rumored and already being talked about about like Sonia them were already working on them. And this is what the system to look like, right the developers already by that time. I'm going to guess already had that my evidence for that as well as just knowing that in general is that if you recall I think it was June th and jgjg was there but maybe there's a g was beside me when we went to Epic for Paragon. This was right around the time before the PS4 Pro got announced right a little bit before months before right off when rumors of this little thing platform was coming out. I remember me and I think JG was beside me we asked or was Nomad we asked one of the deaths, you know who it is. We asked them about it and we said hey, what about this Neos? This one is called Neo. What about this Neo platform like with the 4K thing? Right? Right and like he's blatantly looked Us in the I like straight-up lied in our face and said, I don't know anything about that. I don't know, but like Luke epic had dead bees of this system long before already inside the office. Like he told me later like they were already experimenting with it. And then that's why like day one. They had a paragon upgrade patch for it and stuff like that. So for people to say that like they didn't prepare or only had in the last hour the last year or something like that. So they're being dishonest like that's wrong that is just objectively wrong. They have they've had this hardware for longer. I don't know the exact date unless like a Dev tells the tells you but I'm pretty sure it's a bunch of like legal stuff reasons why they can't say when they have Dev kits and stuff but usually they're supposed to have Dev kits long before the console actually comes out. So it's not unfair to say that they were in fact working off that way with the next-gen and with the PC my second biggest argument why that is the case too is because the if you I don't know if you've seen it, but You look at the demo footage and you look at the 2020 retail. I guess a lot of people thought they were going to downgrade the game. It's actually reversed. So if you look at footage of both of those games exact same moment of the game the game Stickley looks different way better night City looks way bigger and it looks way more colorful in the actual game. We got compared to the demo that we saw in 2018. So a lot of those things if you put them all together and you try to make good if you try to really think out there pacing and stuff like that you can see where basically we're on the chopping block the PS4 and the Xbox got bogged like you can literally see it almost visual visibly off with a solid all this problems. They would have caught a little bit of heat. But which is worse. He now the heat they got now or where they would have got. Yeah. They said this has been like look man. The PS4 is trashed. We're moving to a great that's why I was thinking here is the thing that we have hindsight now, but I'm saying before he said that he said that on the last podcast before they even all this shit even hit the fan Jay-Z was like with when they first delayed changing was said, I think God Said to me he was like, I think they should just try to cut them off and then I was like, you know why they're not going to do that and it's like yeah cuz probably all the people who pre-ordered a majority of the console fan base is still on the previous-gen and maybe of them have are preparing to move to the next one. Right? But because of the because of the coronavirus and stuff like that, it's probably less than what it normally would be the Transitional Care cuz I don't have enough gas fives and whatever it is, but he knew how many like number-wise so you probably just do some and this is what my argument is and I know this sounds like defending but I like I have to like clearly and and like without a doubt say that like, I'm a gummy shapes CD projekt Red did here and it is wrong the Shifting the way they didn't show the base console footage wrong. Like there's no if they force I don't know if you know, they forced everybody who had reviews they force them to take notice that they provided they couldn't use their own bondage hundred percent wrong. And this is the person who's a fan of them. That's what I was like. Oh, that's horrible. I'm disappointed. Yes. I have read for them. Yes, that is red flag. And anyone who defends that shit there a bath They're a bad actor and you shouldn't listen them anymore. You can be a fan of the game. I'm still I'm a fan of CD projekt. Like I said, I love The Witcher 3 and stuff like that. But any person can look at that and objectively like that is wrong. There is no defense of those wage. I think it's time to start having that conversation. I've been saying motherfuker CD projekt Red went to go to Studios when it goes to do what You Through The Witcher 3. I don't know. Yeah, I agree. I I will wage I guess I will accept that and I'll take that one that like, I think with this they are no longer considered goat status. I think it's nothing wrong with I thought I thought yeah. Well, I don't yeah, I don't think it's a hot tag. I think it's fair to say like it'd be very very weird for me to really come up and try to die on a hill sing CD projekt still the American dream has a God. Yeah. Well cuz he's awful people she could drop just re-enabling he dropped to more deaths training people still act like he's fucking protection. But like the thing I think is important though is that I still think they're still close to the table. If not, they're still high up on the the hierarchy because it kind of says something that cyberpunk can have all these issues and people still want the game. They still love the game or they still want to play it outside of the court costs people. I I told me I I laughed at like a lot of ways. I totally I totally sympathize still holding out a whole even the next-gen version. I know I'll fix it. I don't know. It doesn't even run that well, cuz people in my chat tell me that the PS5 you blue screen another one too. Yeah gifted told me his PS5 company is that was scummy another another scary thing. There's no cuz the PS5 version is basically the PS4 version support with a slightly better framerate home. Yeah. It's with that package comes out in January. I think that's why the performance of the game isn't as bad as the like the reasoning why the next inversions don't flop actually the series X runs really well and the stadium version am extremely that's all videos about that. I was like like a spot even funny relevant, huh? Yeah, that's what he said. I was like, whoa, like yeah, that was like like that's kind of what I feel like if they do. On that in Pre if I if I somehow was an executive. I agree JG if I had to take the L on it. I would literally be like a fucking drop the PS4 Xbox fish. It is just on this is not possible. We're not be able to fix it or we're not really fix this in the time. We need drop it and then tell those people who are upset. Like hey, I pre-ordered this thing. I deserved it. Like why can't play the game on my console? Obviously, we're going to be pissed cuz they don't they they wouldn't have seen the footage of see how bad it was. But God I would have been been like marketing wise I've been like, hey, we know you're upset about this good news is stadia is a way cheaper option. You can play it for way cheaper than buying a brand new next-gen console. If you can't afford it or can't get it and you can still play em, or you know, how bad just that would have been way better for them. What kind of play would have been way better that could have been like they're exclusive like to breathe the council people in yeah say hey like we may not get the ship to run. I'm sorry. We just cannot your these classes are trashed. I cannot get this shit the cyberpunk to run on the ship because it's using an eight year old hard drives. I'm using an SSD and that's probably why the in my opinion, that's correct. Even the crashing on the PS5 I think is more manageable is because they have the SSD so they can just boot back into the game really fast compared to God remember on the PS4 if a game Crash how long it would take for you to bring it back up and get back into the game. So I think that's kind of why people are more I guess are more dealing with it on PS5 but Xbox apparently is I've had a couple of people tell me on Xbox series X. It's runs really well with g a larious i like I'll gladly go ahead. Oh no, I'm sorry what you're assuming I was I was laughing cuz I just remembered I got a shit ton of hate when I said that the girl that we shouldn't trust cyberpunk because I remember when The Witcher 3 came out and that shit on them. Yeah. Yeah, it was so unoptimized and people called me fucking stupid and I hate her in the same exact thing happened with cyberpunk wage defendant you on the house my cloud a lot of Ira I believe there's like a lot of people and I think a lot of people have like a lot of short-term memory on this is that like people say it's all wasn't as much as this like wage. If you go back and you watch some of the videos when Witcher 3 first came out, it had a lot of issues on Console an extreme amount of like even people said I think the Devils were even like, you know, I would not play this shit on Xbox one. I think like either played The Witcher 3, maybe a year or two after cuz it was so it had a cult-like following it had already been patched. So their view of it was different version first came out what happened in the difference beside from is that because which are the the the the the cloud that which are gave them it made it where like beforehand which was this like a lot of PC people knew about Witcher but a lot of times we will that was the first time they ever played a Witcher game so they had no idea. I thought he was going to be like when the jumping into it and that's why I think it grew to this like huge Masterpiece of people could claim it is the difference with this game though. Is that like there's already that experience in that behind it and what you're saying. They you a lot of people that I've talked to play Witcher outside the hardcore fans. They played it like a year later months after they had been patching. I've said this before when I there's videos of nice talking about it down. For three first came out. I had a quest breaking bug on the main quest. I could not beat the game. I was stuck for a week and I could not progress as a novigrad because like a stupid button was not appearing so I could progress past this door off and like that was straight up in Witcher 3 the game that everyone says is was like a masterpiece like cyberpunk has very similar problems that what you're has. I think with the patching that they'll do in the near future and all that jazz. Some people realize that the game was really good. That's why I hope I I'm disappointed in the idea of what Lexie project did from a patch standpoint. But I hope what people understand mostly PC players see it as well PC has a couple of issues but every place I didn't know that plays this game all of them feel the same way where it's just like there's an amazing game underneath all this like DS that's happening right now. It's not even like a they have to dig for it or they have to like fix a lot of things. It's more of like there are gems in this game that like make it better than a lot of other games like no doubt like story-wise the main story quests the the characters like there are some top-tier riding in this game that I think a lot of people in fog. Will not be able to experience until next year which is really sad, which is the most disappointing thing cuz like I had a fantastic experience and I feel kind of guilty every time I play cyberpunk cuz I don't have I have luckily was only got one crash in the eighty hours. I played it. I've had some funny bugs but I've never ends in Bethesda bugs, but I've never had any like hardcores like hard stop. I can't progress bugs. Um, so like I feel kind of guilty about but I'm not like one of those people who try to dismiss other people's experiences because my experience was perfectly fine. So I feel sorry for you guys. I empathize but like at least for me like my experience has been like pretty awesome and I had Ray tracing a local stuff. So it's been a fantastic game. It's not just the the bugs to like it's not optimized. Like I haven't had any crashes. Thank God, but I do be monitored my computer and this is the first game I played my bill is a year old. Now, this is the first game. I played where it put my CPU at fucking 60% of the time it hovers around 20 to 30. So it ain't the most or that and where that is just that intensive. I don't know I think Game is I think the game is it's half and half. I think the game really is intensive, especially if you're in night City. I think the game can really like I think you can fuk up any computer. I think it's the new crisis Benchmark because they're kind of stuff especially if you put rate racing on where you using ray-tracing or not finish it all cuz I was struggling. Yeah, I think the games but I do agree there there is some areas where it's inconsistent. Luckily. It's not as bad as optimization as like thought was like, oh my God, like all fours optimization was the people always complain about this. I really didn't have problems with Fallout 4. Yeah. I feel like it's a hit and miss for yeah, probably all depends on your PC bill again, like for me if I walked into the city of Fallujah. I looked into the like the city or I walked around the city like my frames would hit fifteen frames like every time consistently and I was like, bro. It's like a fucking destroyed City. It's not even like crazy looking. So I was like why the fuck is it doing this on my GPU and shake off? So like it's like exact what you said. It's all like a hit or miss depending on like what Briggs I've seen some people who have they don't even have 30 cars. They have like 10 series cards and they're saying they're playing the game perfectly fine. They're not having issues with it off. I think definitely there can definitely some improvement. I think with some optimization patches. I think they can get the game in better shape and as usual with Witcher, which are had the same thing as well optimization problems is all resulted in a game being removed off of PSN, which is funny in itself to me because it's like it just seems like a petty move like, what does this do for some really try to act like you're protecting The Gamers and shit like screwing people over to get out of here off and on top of that the funny thing about the Sony thing is that like a lot of the other I think it's just right now like the level of people upset is just like so high because the game was so massively hyped and stuff. That's why I think they may need it. Cuz let's be honest here. There is a bunch of other games that came out in the past two years that did just as bad. If not worse on their console that they did not get rid of the market. So that's why I feel like it's kind of disingenuous to say that. Oh, that's everyone's worst ones. Like for example Anthem lyrics consoles you remember that? Yeah, they take it off the store interesting right? Like there is like a p r movie look at us. We're the good guys saving you the Cyber Palm. Yeah, we're saving a PS5. Yeah, that's why I don't buy that that's why I don't buy that argument to say that like several times worse off its like know if you remember there's a couple of games that came out in the past few years that were breaking consoles and so need not take action that can take them off of stores and there's actually very annoying but it's it's attention though. Literally. It's yes, it's extremely hard to compare those games too cyberpunk, because we've this is literally life-saving years in the making so that that's that's why they literally are you talking about the days every single day. Yeah more and way more people have it wasn't that many people that were interested in Anthem. It wasn't that many people that were interested in Fallout 76 compared to literally like the tons and tons of people that are literally like clamoring to get their hands on the game Steam steam literally crashed in cyberpunk came out. I started like oh gee, I got it on Gog. I was so hard to down. Everybody was trying to play it at once. It was Insanity. I couldn't believe it. Like, I've never seen a single player game like do that to like steam of all things. I've seen most of their games like crash. There's you know their own servers and stuff cuz there's so many people But like I've never seen like an offline single-player game actually, like caused this last thing like Skyrim. I think I think what everybody being in the house too, cuz the covid-19 Kobe just like people are already kind of upset. So like everybody's got their pitchforks is going to be tenfold. That's that's I forgot. That's like a whole other dimension of this whole thing that a lot of people like, we we just four people have bias and they don't even realize it. Yeah, there were any changes you put down. It's like all this stuff is also crazy but then add kovan on top of that where they have to make the final decision of this year in covid-19. It is literally a perfect storm Perfect Storm of bulshit bad decisions bad timing just overall and it just all came tumbling down simultaneously and you know, the the crazy part of the only thing I think that could have saved wage cyberpunk from this situation is the space force Guardians to the Guardians breast. It was a live man, but I guess you were expecting Do you like get dunked further? But like I guess the Saving Grace of this game thank God for me is that like the game was good like the game lived up to my expectation at least of that respect outside of the bugs and stuff. I I I enjoyed my time playing this game. That's not like you can make I can take it as like, you know me just being overhyped about it or something like that. But I guess I'm just matured to the point where thankfully to I put a video on my channel bought a game came out and I laid out exactly what I expected and I'd say if I look back at that video, I'm going to look back at and do another video about it. But I feel like almost ninety percent of my expectations and video were met by cyberpunk some of the other thoughts like the bugs and stuff like that. I think detract and and and and hurt the game definitely no doubt, but like the things that the thing the issues of the game didn't weren't really things that I was looking for for the game. Like I was home. I wasn't excited about going around a city and shooting at civilians like that. That wasn't really what I cared about playing this game. Like I wanted like a Deus Ex experience and at least on that angle cyberpunk delivered, so I'm at least happy about that I dead. Want to say I'm very I am pissy project. I'm very upset at them specifically and not the deaths but the upper management and I really feel sorry for the jobs cuz they are not going to see their fucking families and that's really fucking upset to me and I feel kind of guilty playing the game because of that but is not gamer to you. I know that I'm from for me it is but that's cuz I had a better experience everyone else but I can walk like like I thought about like this way. I really thought I think it just because I didn't play as many games as I wanted to this year but like playing it all like I think I enjoyed this game way more than a lot of other games that came out this year. I think what else came out here. Boom goes the size of Creek. Yeah. Definitely enjoy the game final fantasy the last of us and so like by Playhouse was that should definitely like I know a lot of a lot of weird games a lot of your games got like like I definitely enjoy the game more than less definitely join this game from a story standpoint way more than last month's you definitely enjoyed this song. More than ghost Ashima but like go Sushi most fantastic. I did Ghost like I wouldn't mind either way. I enjoyed this game more than Doom just because I don't know. It's just more my type of game. I took a game but I love doing as well. I guess that's the weird part is it's like the games. I played I really like but like Just something about like something uniquely about cyberpunk. I really enjoyed. I don't know if it's the story of the characters, but just the way that the the main missions are written and side quests are in it. Honestly like that content is so good. It doesn't bug me about the other stuff but it's okay, but you know, where you rank in this is Jay now that you played it like in terms of your favorite games of the year. That would have to play it some more. I really like honestly give it a ranking. Yeah. I say beat it ASAP it first maybe my opinion will change. This is based off what I played. It's not my top five. I think I think for you guys, I think maybe it might hit better when you beat it a lot of the cool stuff that happens in the main stories and when you decide stuff, I think it drastically you start to realize the game really is amazing. It's just there's just the bullshit that you have to get through life, which I'd really sucks. And that's only reason why I wouldn't give it a ten. I do want to lose screen, you know, what's going to happen? Oh, yeah. I understand but luckily. Luckily. I I've not gotten blue screen once like I only crashed Knock on wood. I haven't crashed either. Yeah, just dropping it could crash the game, you know really bad but like luckily the surprising about this game on PC is I have not had like Fallout 4 level of just it's just constantly dying out on me. That's been the good Saving Grace about cuz if that had been on top of all this other bullshit, yeah, just been like I'll just go tomorrow and I think that I think that overall will effect our situation. It really sucks. Like we we kind of we kind of saw it coming and I didn't want it to come to this point but ended up being way worse than I expected. I didn't think I'm going to be too. Yeah, I don't think anyone expected bad. Yeah. I was going to be a couple of bugs like yeah some, some people might have been upset but it did get $10 off. Yeah, because I think the overall like maybe I should be in some of these meetings with the bigwigs cuz I ended up being right. I should not think that she has zero down. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, make sure I put the game out here really if it ain't ready for consoles. I said I said the one thing I said though. I was like don't y'all ask me about the console version of it right off. I think that would happen to you again because that's a labor of love and that's your first game you're doing I think one thing that not even talking about. Is it ever is this CD projekt Red back by the government the Polish government. They just give them extra funding. It's not like they're backed by that doesn't maybe they push the game out. I thought maybe you know the weird thing right? I don't I would never say cyberpunk is not a labor of love. Like if you play that game. It's very hard for you to convince yourself to say like they didn't care about this game. Well, like I can see a lot of parts of this game where I'm like, oh my God, like somebody like the way the city is built some dude literally was very meticulous of how they were like, the environment are the level design is just like a character interaction and oh my God though after like, oh, although their books with Andromeda ship like just the facial was it acting that's done with the the face acting and the overall performances of the game like wage. There's some really insane level of like stuff in this game that I'm just like these motherfuckers like you could tell they pour their heart into it. I just think that a lot of the bullshit that corporate caused, you know makes it harder for people to like at least give that stuff a chance or at least look at it and try to see where the gyms are. But like I said, I think there's amazing game underneath all this bullshit. They're like, it's not a thankfully. It's not a game that sucks. It's not a shity game. It's a fantastic game. It's just it's going to be under Lance guy over time. It'll give me percent. I think give it a couple of months. I say next year what March April I think the games going to be like back at your level and lucky for them. There's really not a lot of games. I don't know any Twenty One Like There's No definitive dates. Are they couldn't fix a d project. We're looking for. It's all the DLC for free. That's you got to wash the way you gotta start right? You cannot drop any DLC and cost money for it. You just gotta give everybody free DLC all your expansion packs. Just give them for free bro. Please help me about a day one. At least the people anybody who still has the game as birth. Saying thank you for suffering with us. Like just give it to him a free. That's the first way you can get back good faith. Good karma is just give them free content don't even try to like give money off this game. It's pretty much a done deal at that point. 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He said he did all I wanted to say was fucked that gave me got on his dog. That's all I wanted. That game is so irritating to play and then after I play, what's your what should be on it? More play it down volume of beef with it. It's way too damn big. Oh, yeah, they told me it was five minutes, bro. I was so mad when I was like, wait what when they revealed Asgard I lived to kill myself. I feel the same way when I started playing it was literally like cyberpunk is almost here cyberpunk. That's only thing that was in the back of my head. And now that I've played cyberpunk dead. It's so like I know it's got piss me off the boot this game back up and try to beat it like he did like cuz the problem is is that like cyberpunk big don't get me wrong. But the thing is like the pacing of the main story is so good and it keeps you going over a huge Jeeps roller coaster during that like you're causing Gage from my experience. I put like 50 hours into Valhalla. So I think I could spend on this pretty well the palm of a holla is there are some region part, you know, where you got a place to a region then you have to do the the Story Bridge have those are fucking boring. They're very fucking boring. The characters are fucking boring and there and they aren't that engaging some of them are really good one or two of them. I was like, oh that was really good. But the majority of them are boring as hell and the biggest problem with the game is traversing the environment. They introduced fucking Horse Stamina into the game and then there's Hills everywhere the horse can't run up the hill off the top of that. He has limited breath. I don't want to do it's wack. I don't want to do it. This is a game like I'd rather sit Loda bugs and play at least I would want to get cars like dead. Oh, yes, it's ironic. I guess I feel like I have fun and like even the boys like that but I've always just it's just there's a lot like the combat and the characters involving me is much, it was the bugs and glitches. It was a lot of clubs through the environment and then the other night. I lost two hours of progress in the story because the game I ran into a glitch where the axe was stuck in my hand. So the game was confused and I thought I was always in combat. So it wouldn't allow brake fast travel and it wouldn't allow me to save the game. So I lost two hours of progress and then when I when I actually killed myself I came back and then I tried to fast travel and whenever I would try to fast travel the game would instead kill me. So I was like, you know what I was so I couldn't progress the story at all. So I just I just I just like this is honest all yeah. It was a game-breaking bug. I'm out not. Yeah. So what do you think of what do you think of a borg? I don't know if you did the mail. So I didn't I did I did the the female she just kind of met to me at first, but I actually she was starting to grow on me. The more I played the game. Yeah Chris the side quests. Yep. The funny side question the game. Yeah, definitely but in the main stories kind of an amazing, I feel like she's like a big Observer most of the time and I don't feel like she inputs enough but like on the side, so if I do agree, I feel like they flush her out a way that she's actually at some funny like reactions and stuff. But yeah, I definitely agree like, I don't know I I feel like maybe JG can get more context like JD. I'm assuming there's a character Arc with her. I'm assuming she has have some information obviously like once she goes like when you start playing the game, but she takes the Assassins like the whole entire thing is like a joke like it's not like she's like whatever like, all right, I'll kill. Yeah, it's like a viking but she doesn't really care about the greater context of the world or the Templars verse that and she just thinks it's like some little childish it so I guess I'm curious cuz Jay-Z beat it. Is there. Is there like a character Arc for her where she taught special characters something when she once you get to the end of of you know in infiltrating the order then like she kind of comes to like a realization or what happened job. So you you'll have to like if you do want to suffer through, you know defeating everybody so that you get to the end then you'll you'll kind of come to that realization or like everything that you've done. So she she does not have the same mindset at the end. I'll just say that okay, that's why I thought I was hoping for that but it's like I hate that I have to go 80 hours for me to see that. I wish it would happen more exactly. Yeah, and and now with my issue with it, like I actually really enjoy the game I would say that I probably enjoyed this story more than Odyssey and I put almost the same amount of time into both games, but it's going back to TV at this point. Like I shouldn't have had to and I'm still not even done with everything else. But I'm done with at least a to like main story point. I shouldn't have had to play the game for eighty Plus hours in order to get to that point. I'm just kind of tired of like the song Ride of playing these games. It is so much Miles Morales like so refreshing. Yeah, they game was only like three or four hours in in Nancy Rogers went to it was like seven you went to the main story know if you log You went to the main story and you didn't know somebody mentioned that you would like four hours I Buena for hours. She's yeah, it's like seven doing cycling idea. I didn't know so I miss it at all. I was like, wow, I'm already at the end and my screen was a year Call of Duty was a nice six hours the campaign it was so refreshing just get you the fucken all the like wow, like yeah just beating the game. So but again going back to Sanskrit like I shouldn't I'm just so tired of the granny game you've lied on his and go ahead and see the agent point like for its being five Maps just looking at you know, the the second map the the second point that you get two for the majority of the main story like oh this map is so big and then you ended up going to another map and he ended up going to Asgard didn't even though go into another. I'm like are okay and now I can see why this map is bigger. It's there's another map on top of that. They said Thursday at 5, if I melt. Oh, yeah, where you go to another place? Okay. Okay. Okay. So for spoilers spoiler alert really quick. So for people who are listening, so I've been to the beginning wage. Was was it Norway? If it was a Norway then you go to Norway UK or which is engliah the guard and then I went to Asgard and then I went to North America. There's another one. Yes, how do you how do you beat asgore? It's another place. After that. You have a drink a potion to get to the I had to drink the potion God. There's another one Jew. Yes, and it has its own story. And in question is, you know, what pisses me off too is I was twenty hours into the game and like there was glitches. I was already noticing a clipping in the combat ship but I was really trying to hold on cuz I was an Assassin's Creed fan, but at the 20 hour mark when Iran's that game-breaking bug I was like I gotta be I had to I had to be fair this has to get uninstalled like it's just not right man. I'm bugging you surprised because that definitely a game that you would sit there and grind for a whole year like you did for Odyssey. So I'm very surprised when I looked at this and I was like going to love this song. This shouldn't it's so buggy. I didn't even realize it to the chat had pointed it out. There was like yo is there music supposed to be playing like during the combat and like I had gotten so used to it. I didn't even realize there was I never had any music playing in my twenty hours, right? It's the bad comparison. Is it is it like we're talking cyberpunk buggy like it has like that level of bugs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it might be worse because I ran a game-breaking. I haven't found anything game-breaking the cyberpunk just goofy shit. But yeah, I found something the game-breaking in Valhalla and I said, I'd 20 hours and I didn't even realize there was no music and then the chat pointed it out and I was like, oh I got so used to it. So I went to the menus and I went to the settings. I thought maybe I accidentally muted the audio for like copyright reasons something the audio was on a hundred percent dog. I was like you get this shit off my fucking hard drive like this is crazy down here. So yeah, my game is grass multiple times. I think it done it at least two times while I was dreaming it. So I had to just restart the entire game. I would say that happened probably like close to ten times overall with me playing so I did. The costly just cut it out like you would it was literally some areas that I was in there like I loaded back in and then I like just hopped off the roof and my my fast travel point and it just crashed again. Like it just couldn't move. I take that back. I did crash like two or three times when I first booted up the game this game is unoptimized. I had to drop the graphics down some of them down to high some of them down to medium and some the low and then I had to put the resolution down to 80% I couldn't play it at a hundred and then when I put it down to 80% that's when the stabilized so like my game looks like the console version. It's a little blurry and that was the only way I could run it on my PC. So yeah, you're right. I think I forgot about those crashes at the beginning. I thought yeah, I mean in streaming and not dreaming this happen too. So so you have like I got a 2018 d m. Had a very serious car broke down. I'll just look at the guy who just got off the 1080. Shut up comedy boy n a t Alec I play bass though if a game. You have the time and dedication sure it go for it. Because I've had some people in my chat. They were like a hundred twenty hours in when I was probably like forty hours in though. There are obviously people thought like want to go through the grind and get everything. Should I cover do you feel like I should suffer to get to the end or do you feel like it's like I just go on YouTube for you for you eat those especially at the end like I got I got do so. I've got some whole piece or it's like I got some o p swords I do spend time to do a lot of I mean you stop playing Odyssey though know, okay, so you got a board. So how do you feel about you feel about this story wise compared to audits, you know anything right? I find the whole story way more engaging than okay. So you feel the same way I do then. Yeah, but the only problem like I'm in a rut part of the game where I'm just like doing these more reason to get to the push the narrative narrative forward more like a seat so hard cuz I have to spoil it for you to like for me to give you an idea of where I am. So that like you'll get understand why I'm hyped for certain. It's like, okay. This is 5:00 is dead. You know, which region that you're in. Sorry my dear my child a background, but I'm using are you in right now? Okay, so I'll explain the best way I can with keywords without fully exploited. So people who know know and people who don't don't okay, so I was fighting the British British. I was fighting the British and the little thing twist happened with one of the side characters who you know, then you have that little boss battle at the end. It was really cool. And I was like, oh this is really cool. And then the main story your your brother, you know, a little relevant Revelation happens with him and you know, you you play whole like a you know was Saving Private Ryan with him and that pushes it for but then you know, one of the main figure I tag notes, I guess appears now. I know I know where you at you break around there, but then like right where I get to that part right at the end with that fucking bitch in which I fucking hate her. I forgot her name afraid or some shit. I hate her with fucking passion. So once you get to that little Park event, it's really good like the stories like escalating. Like all these spiders fire then it's like oh, you gotta get more regions. And then when I go to these other regions, they don't live up to that level of excitement at the main story does it's like you go to in order for me to keep going. I gotta go back to a region that I'm too weak for so I got to go do these weaker regions so I can get enough power so I can reach the region. I want to press the story. Yeah. Yeah, cuz it makes me forces you to it forces you to talk to do the other regions because I mean they they are important but I but I get what you're saying. Yeah, like when you when you just got done with that part, you're like yo, I want to continue going and then they tell you the exact reading that you need to go to and I was thinking they same thing. I was like fuck man. I'm not powerful enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean irritating thing I hate about the entire game is awesome. I leave it up to you eat those if you find him or engage if you find the story more engaging you just want to continue then go work late. It's worth me. But like I said for you personally since you just got done with cyber Palm And you're you know, you're praising like you aren't you saying, you know this one of the best games you ever play? Like, I don't know if I know because it's going to be hard to compare like after you just played and beat cyberpunk. Try took place. I'm not like a crazy person who's expecting Valhalla to like beat my expectations or or make me feel as good as I would like that shouldn't play the Mortal. I'm just I thought about nothing but positive things about the game and I knew that she was going to be fine with okay, if you're okay. Well if you had that mind-set you don't need please please have to wait because you're already far enough. Okay, so I'm pretty far. Okay. Yeah, you all ready for another way to get more like I get to the climax finish it and it pops the new map on me. It's like hey do this shit for so many more hours and I'm like, oh no. Yeah, cuz I mean you don't have to do it. You don't have to do as guard and you don't have to be off next region either like those are unrelated to to go story. Yeah, you can go back later. You can do that. You can do that at your leisure because you guys yes, not really. I'm fine with it. As long as it's not like had a complete ass. Art in order for me to you. Do you have the complete any of those? Okay, she just made me mad cuz like one of the developers like the head producer football and assassins feet. Like he followed me my whole life and like he like pose it like some pictures of like look how beautiful Valhalla who cares Nick a fix the fucking game. Did you play this beautiful beautiful? But I mean if you're getting game-breaking bugs and you know, you gotta treat it is it's sort of an odyssey. That's the reason why I want to play it's not actually the small size as it's longer. It's so much easier to do when they can even pay for this game and I want to know the minimum wage like it's all fucking Longman way. Yeah just for just for like overall context to anybody who's listening. I do recommend it if you have the time, but if you don't have the time like if you're trying to juggle like mental not just time then yeah. Yeah also quite but like if this is one of the only games that you're going to play like if you wanted to choose between this and cyberpunk and like you just are so turned off by what's going on birth. Upper bunk you did want to play Assassin Creed or a mortal's cuz that's that's you know, made by the same people get us a secrete. You could play it actually just be prepared for the longest Immortals is is made by the same Monday to Odyssey develop developer. Sorry developer nice not to do that's why that game is it published published by the same people. You don't think I'm going to boot up a mortal's this week. I shot. Can I get it for free? I got back from you is off of my t get it for me free JG. Can you ask me for a code for me freaking I heard it's on sale already though. I think it's like thirty bucks cuz like everybody's saying it's good. But cuz it's a new IP people aren't buying it. Yeah, I found a big game store 4:40 and in the coupon gives it like 30, I think so, you know for their go ahead and get that girl. I think I'll try it cuz I feel like I need like after cyberpunk. It's like I said, I'm really trying hard not to like new game it and play a new side care or a new version of it again or new playthrough of it. But like I feel like I want to Pace myself away from it really quick and then go back to it when they patched more stuff into it off. I know it was good. Cuz he put a hundred hours on a game. You know, you know, you'll see these weird so he doesn't like God of War so I don't I don't know. Yeah, that's actually weird too. Yeah, either weird gamer like there's certain things. I think he liked and he doesn't and there's games I didn't think he's off the things he gets into like what like weird weird gamer. I actually find it very interesting to see what games you can't read is taste. Yeah. I can't I can't read him. He's very very fucking game awards. How how we feeling about this year was you guys entertained? How do you watch it? I technically I didn't either you were doing I told you I said you think I will watch something like we play cyberpunk. Y'all guy. This guy would just trying to get to the bag. He was in a bad mood. We didn't have you to freaking The Last of Us swept the freaking long as the only thing I wanted to talk about how y'all feel about that the last of us to one game of the year. Did It win anything else or the best game directly in best narrative? It literally almost wanted everything. Yeah. Yep. Everything else in my opinion the game awards became a joke after this. I mean it wasn't that serious in the first place, but it's like really fast game like one base aren't like Rick like, oh Hades must got robbed. Yeah eighties R like in every category theme. Yeah, eighty-one something though, but they didn't win the majority of things. That's not fair. Did yeah girls are Seema one best best art Direction. I'm looking at this thing right now. Okay, go tsushima best right direction. That's there. I'm like going through this week. I'm sorry. Like I literally like getting give a fuck about it is I have no keys one Hades one of the best indie games all doom got fucked over. I'm guessing he sure I thought it was a Mungus. Yeah, I think among has got moment. No, it says it here. It says best in d o know Among Us one best mobile game mobile game. Yeah. Yeah that's in DS and then they end of August one best community support. It was funny too, cuz like during the extra towards it seems like naughty dog was even shocked they won like birth. So that should the last of us even one Innovation and accessibility that makes sense. I play the game the accessibility options and in that game or like insane like I think you could be blind and you caught that game actually need one best action game, but I almost in that category was Innovative. And what was what was so like there's some videos on it. I digress watching it's very it's very cool off. If you don't like the game the cool thing about it is like there's a lot of ways that people who have different disabilities can play the game and actually thoroughly enjoy it. Like if you're blind there's ways that like it enhances the sound so like even if you're like almost ninety percent blind you can still play the game you're color-blind it covers you there. If you have like if you have certain like basically like you have certain like I don't know disabilities or like that if mind's way of like helping you and making it easier for you to play the game wage is really good more games should do that. So more people can play them. So that's always good but I might not use them. Oh and of course, it makes the game easier. I know the media mainstream media with crooked Hillary they love the game. They said this one but the average gamer is not making this shit was fun. So I don't understand. How can that something be Game of the Year where most people didn't think it was very fun of it. So like I'm in differential as well. To be honest with you. Like I'm not I I know some people perceive me as I think these games garbage. I was like, I'm indifferent to it. Like I really don't care either way, but I just I find the game numbing to play. I don't really find Eagle anything when I play it any strong feelings way. I get why people like it like I get why like massive fans of it might really like it. I just don't think it's a game that I personally find enjoyable or fun to play and I don't think the story I'ma be honest after playing sad story is just like cyberpunk story is so much better than last the story. It's it is like night and day really good and characterization wise. I think it's almost like an antithesis of like last person whose writings like story writing down but I don't know like I do give it like from a technical standpoint like last was too is like god tier like that came from a technical standpoint is insane. I don't know how they pulled it off the way it works on a month. That's that's really impressive. But I I don't know that's narrative. Exactly exactly category in that category Jim like it's like like even if like if like those are some hummus I mishear better than fucking length of those even like best game Direction. It's like I don't feel like like somebody did those categories. We have we gotta raise some eyebrows. Yeah, and then on top of that like even cybering had this issue like like last was too crunched hard and it's kind of like you're going to give a game with back directly to a game that like, you know, they were crunching hard to make it inches. Yeah and one best audio design to an audio was decent and I'll give it that in terms of like that. It was wrong with him bad like but Half-Life, what was the call was Alex or Alex? Yeah. I thought that game should go away more towards a game guy extremely looked over and I've heard this I've watched like a dog. Ruin a thought was phenomenal. It was like was it like once once it won some of the awards that it did I would do like well we see what's going on. Like because one of the shared no more moments, you know exactly where we were like, okay. Well that's trendy is probably going to go to switch death stranding last year. Yeah. Anybody on as we go why it's come home. Come on. I I I did blue hair. I think I think Abby was it's a it's a good performance but the best you know, what's going on the other slot like come on down and there's this year there was so many good performances. Like, you could have thought of other kids. That's the thing. It's just like I look at a lot of this list leaves like list of there like being nominated on it's like you couldn't just sort of a different game or like just a mix it up a bit like other games add to this. Like, I know this is all of them. Like, how do I am not win best action-adventure game? Like what? Yeah best action should have a hundred percent have been Doom eternal. Doesn't make any sense Jeff you're looking a little funny action-adventure is really oh man. Look at a little funny out there. Yeah. Yeah, I disagree with this but birth announcements that came out of it when I don't know no Mass Effect game. You care about that those. Oh, yeah. I always loved Mass Effect. I love how they fuck me over every time but I still come back every time is rumored to take place after image and envious. Yeah, that's not the library. She hit me with the feels bro. I mean that's been the shit we've been asking for since MP3s shit was we always begged for it was like what happens after the Reapers make you can see what happens after make a continuation make it either like post everything done in the future or tell us what directly happens after so looks like it's right after like a little bit after that. So and I'm not gonna lie when I saw the our house and I was so happy cuz I know what time. It was and I was like, oh my God if this is Andromeda again, I'm like, oh, please like I don't mind Andromeda, but but I saw iyara and then I think I saw rx2 in the trailer. I was like, I'm excited for new Mass Effect game. Know what I really want cuz this is definitely get the fifth game right now. I'm kind of excited for it. I don't have it. They do it's like everything. I have no expectations story just has to be fire and giving me andromeda's gameplay. Yeah, like surprise me on this like, please like and the other news the news of them bringing back like the veterans of the trilogy have me a little bit more positive and I'm not as in KC leave. I read somewhere Casey live. I don't really give a damn about Casey at this point. Like I like I don't even like Casey is like the brainchild of Mass Effect 1, but he's also the brainchild behind like what happens with me3 and stuff like that. So it's like casing to be a hit or miss. I don't really care that much for Casey. I'm more concerned about the directors like who the people who was in charge of art the music like that like those like the things that people brought together all the different fields of Mass Effect like the original trilogy those of people care about and they brought back the art director. So I know artistically this game is going to look a lot like the OG trillion, which I'm excited for if they bring back like the birth Composers they did from the OG Trilogy was it seems like they are that'll be fantastic. The main thing I think everyone cares about is the writers who who's writing this new game that I think that's what everyone cares about and I guess we'll see what happens there. Like who's going to be the the the different people writing this and if it's people from the trilogy then I think I'll be good. So we'll see. I mean, I don't care you could come out being trash. I'm still going to play it your way. I'm going to play every math make animation still playing it still planning total facial animation. Still going to play it like yeah freaking was a separate off and Smash Bros. Anybody care. They don't know it was excited. Yeah, they were cool. It looks cool. Yeah, I'm care about smash balls Shofu playing with them when he came out and like kids read his posts are ridiculous but leads and he's not he's not blessed because I think he's Shofu lose to a nice Jigglypuff. Like he got everybody needs downloaded on the next bad to be back. I found a frontal air play. It just it's a learning cars obviously to him, but he doesn't look that I'll say that because it seemed like almost every Smash Brothers character immediately is Opie, but he doesn't seem to be o p you just gotta learn some is some risk it for what I saw but he spoke so crazy like it just it takes a little bit more time to get those out. He doesn't look like he has like fast slashes or anything. So like a lot of his attacks are like heavy attacked. He looks cool and I thought about playing them and then I thought I'm not going to pay $20 for a season pass just to go hop online and get smacked by a bunch of neckbeard are Shofu. It's like I'll watch everybody else play a game. It's not a fool neck beard is a neckbeard. Remember the first time we met him. He were you there. Yeah, you remember when you want to play Smash Brothers, you place me to control his neck. Oh, yeah, just pulling out like this nigga is different. Right? I I've never seen that before those the first time I've ever seen like they announced the new Perfect Dark I didn't really care about this cuz the last one sux people I saw people getting excited. I'm like the yard member Perfect Circle 360 that show was asked. Yeah, it was pretty bad. But I mean, it's 20 20 20 21 22. I'll see what they can do. I'll cross my yeah, it was it was it was yeah. No, no. No, I mean this morning come on this one. It's got a Xbox logo on it at home. I would assume it's a Microsoft was rear-ended. All right, sweet home. Retail so like I'll leave my expectations open on it. Okay, it's it's like do we need this because it depends on which route that they're going to take because like you mentioned the 361 was terrible so glad I don't know which route they're going to take on this one, but I guess I'll leave my expectations over freaking back for blood that's a game that's getting a lot of hype. It's made by it's a Left 4 Dead spiritual successor from Turtle Rock made by like the original ownership. So people really excited about that. I don't like I'll play it but I don't really see what's Like New in it. I get my code. Just want to see me the code yet for that game. I only have one extra and I gave it to J G pag. Oh my God. I don't even know if that colder work. Somebody sent it to me in the code looked weird cuz it didn't like it was long enough, but I'm not I think yeah that actual Platformers own cuz I don't know. What is it off at the game store or maybe epic try both consciously put in every everything is written word. Exactly one larger will work. Oh when I go ahead is out like that school like wage. I've been a fan of Left 4 Dead and everybody been wanting a third left for dead but valve can't count the three. So now we see what's going on with this but back for blood and initially I was like, oh no another zombie game, but then when I heard that Turtle Rock was was at the helm of like, okay, like I'm fine with it. But this is this is back by Warner Brothers. So I don't I mean that's probably not going to mean much sought-after Iraq. The original developers are doing it, but I've heard nothing but good things and I've seen seen some people play the alpha and they look pretty good so far. So I'm excited for you. Okay, we'll take a plane see how long it will take it arc Arc to survival can have Vin Diesel. Nope. Okay were all very confused Louise. I think a little break. Okay. What was it Master Chief in fortnite song? No amongus Matt man. That's all siggy's taking care of. So excited about that. Okay, we'll move on Game Awards is a little dry. Oh wait, Sorry. There's like kind of off topic. Did you guys see that new year's DLC not what is it? Yours is like a new campaign. It's like, oh, yeah. Yeah people say is really good writers. Like I just I just saw like literally on my timeline PLS. May I know your English you said what is that? It's called high Buster's like a whole like campaign They just added to their it was like characters and has a whole campaign and new stuff and off. The person is really good. It's cheap. It's not that expensive. I don't know but it's like Co-Op campaign. It's like short but people say it's campaign wise, it's really awesome. Okay. Oh small thing, you know, maybe we check it out. Sometimes put it out there Xbox finally. Get some new. I still need to beat that game. Huh? What your five? Yeah, I beat it. Oh you need to be there bro. I remember having it the ending were so surprising you should you should be dead. The maybe maybe I'll fall dead and cuz that game is little easily over a hundred gigs. So yeah, it's not a thousand hours though, like the other games you can actually do that. Yeah. This is true. This has 400 right as opposed to working on a League of Legends MMO how we feel about that weirdly surprised. They can't talk whatever happened to that fighting game. They were going to do they're still working on it freaking I mean don't they have like four or five games they have now they got a lot. So yeah, they have like four or five games. I've actually launched right now the league Cinematic Universe. Yeah. I think it would be interesting if this takes place in the league Cinematic Universe with the characters from League. This might be massive cuz League of Legends like I think it's still the biggest game isn't it or did fortnite feed it? I don't know. What do you want something more traditional like wow or something more action. I want some experimental. I don't want a wild clone. I'm Different interested. I want them to really push the genre and try something different but like put it with legal. Skechers if they do that, I'm so like I will give the game a shot. But like I don't know like if it has like the raid systems, I like Final Fantasy XIV has with like some more Dynamic combat, maybe like if if somehow be like a league game somehow but like in third person, I would yeah, I would be on board hundred percent. The thing is like League of Legends world is really cool. So they do in like runeterra. Oh man, that would be sick. Like the world is really cold the World building school. A lot of the characters are really awesome. I mean people either like or hate League of Legends the game, but one thing I will give him credit for they make some really awesome characters and really cold war. So maybe let him off that. I think I don't care nothing about the league universe. So you don't care that they probably don't care about the game then yeah the game play looks good. That's something we're going to check for you care about the subject. I'm not the biggest MMO fan and I've never played legal agent. So I have no idea what's going on with the lower, but I'll see what the gameplay is looking like wage. And if it looks like some with a billing then I may give it a shot. But again with me not know anything about legal Legends. I can't say. Oh, I'm I'm excited about it, but I'll keep an eye out to it. See what's going on, but I'm excited about like some of the other things that they have going on with it really moved by the MMO announcement. Hm they have it make sure look, I don't know. I doubt that's coming anytime soon, but not least this one. I know J's going to love this cuz he's the residential social justice Warrior on t i v w switch had a town hall meeting the other day which is live streaming. I find it hilarious because they didn't do you have a town hall where you don't include people who can ask questions, but whatever they revealed that they will be starting in January. They will be banning derogatory terms such as the word SIM PIN in cells to protect the Community Law. What's that doing for you J. Well, I didn't know that that was a thing that people found offensive, but you know what? I'm not surprised because everybody Library think offensive nowadays wage loser. Look at look at your hand. That's why yeah, pretty much if you know, you understand me a break. Yeah, pretty much. So I found that as a surprise though that they were like specifically targeting these words especially virgin like come on now I can understand into virgin. What if I am a virgin one? Yeah. Yeah like yeah like I did. Okay like we we are literally took way too sensitive and virgin is is an offensive thing and twitch at an overall. Yes. I don't know who that specifically hurting like. All right, like well, we in high school still sucked which is really high school today. And if if that they say that like like we're on here like a lot of people are getting money from there. Like we're playing games we're showing things like but Gala worried about like being called a Virgin by choice some random. So you don't even know like come on now like y'all need to get thicker skin. So for them just going after these words and still nights until today addressing like being called the n-word. In every single variation you could think to man or people would have somebody in my chat with a George Floyd name and profile picture. That's still a thing to yeah and emotes that are that are the way in which you know, y'all ended up addressing after the fact so it's still a lot of other things like yellow just so brain-dead upon and I honestly don't know like as far as like the entire Community Lansing a Twist like where it's going to go because people were like legit pissed off from this me I just found it funny because like again like I have thicker skin like I understand like what's going on in I'm like, all right, bro, like if you want to come in there with with that bull in my chat, like I'm just gonna band you and I already have these pre place that is going to get you out of here. If you want to be act like a clown but other people I feel like they still don't take the necessary steps to protect themselves in their chat and then they let that stuff bother them and then they becomes like a whole, you know topic off. Out it in and now we're here we're virgin is offensive to people. So I just I just found out to be some some bullshit at the end of the day when you're not going after the actual offensive terms that have been offensive turned four months in decades and Indian finally address it once you get the backlash of people wondering why the hell you're talking about banning these words but not things like the N word that that's what I found took me about the whole situation. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's really wild when I think about cuz like like I guess cuz we're in our we're in our own bubbles so much. I didn't realize I didn't realize it was such an issue but I guess like that word that word gets thrown around so much like it's really affecting people cuz I don't even really see it in much. I've never seen the word install in my chat once yep now, yes, but some white people I have met her like I know what it is, but like I've never once had any worry or any issue of anybody much that coming in and calling people like in cells or whatever it is and less like the topic we're talking about revolves but not like as insulting like random people off. Yeah, cuz I'm like, I've never had trouble getting women like women have been attracted. I mean, I've I've stuck my my private parts in so, clearly I got ahold daughter down. So you calling in and sell what does that do to me here my billing this fully Falls or Ami being a virgin. Yeah, that's clearly false and me being a simple thing. I got a wife. So again, none of these none of you know, like yeah. Yeah another piece of fine to me. So like you yeah, if somebody came in here talking to you know, saying that to me like our page like what type of entail do you have? Cuz that's clearly Falls but but for other people, yeah, I think he does hit the nail on the head light that's on the white side of twitch and we just don't see it. So it just comes to a surprise birthday. It's like window like okay cuz it's specifically has been hilarious like I'm sorry, bro be over on that wage. Yeah everyone in it. Yeah, that's what it is. I think they just ruined it. But the other two words are especially virgin. Like I just I just think that virgin is extremely weird. And so you'll get offended by some random dude on the internet calling you a version bruh. You might not want to be on the internet anymore. I'm sorry like that. That is just like come on man. Really? That's funny cuz it's put out a statement to like a few hours. Hey, we don't care what the what it's like these people were complaining about this year. They caught the backlash then they finally addressed they donate cuz literally everybody kept on about the delay, but what about the Edward? I mean I still get caught off guard and every variation of it. What do you want to do about that find ways to get the filters really like they always find out it's like Edward with the is not permitted. We can still say Niger but not not sure so y'all won't JG we're going to lose our sponsors now. It's on our platform in the windows, which may not wage and I'm black so you you ain't gonna stop me from saying dead. Anyways, but yeah, yeah neither is an example. Yeah, I'm going to find that because I know we're going to see it and some form of faith and even though on our side on the on the people of color side. I want to see what's going to happen going forward as like we're just using it as an example and one of us gets banned for saying the ER or cuz or even even in a GTA like I think there's some people are going to get offended about that too. And I think that might end up sparking some controversy as well. So I'm I'm willing honest. Yeah, like I don't know I'm going to be paying actually ban it I think they actually say you can't say Niger anymore. I mean, I mean in that in that tweet, they said that you could like they're they're not really worried about the GTA. But I like I said, I think that it might end up getting to that point that they're going to try to like police like know why folks are going to be here we say Aren't they like damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don't cuz like if they do ban it then like obviously like the black there's like no you're going to ban Like You Can't Ban us like say their Facebook going to come out with people. You can't say it like Facebook. Don't come out to cut you say Niger over here like going over here. That should be funny you say Niger. So I hope he doesn't get to that point because if it does and it's really going to get to a point of like you're completely censoring like anything we can type or say so I don't want it to get to that point. But but people brought attention in I mean understandably so cuz of course you don't want to be, you know, constantly getting harassed and called out of your out of your name a derogatory term or racial slur or anything but dead they it just find it funny the things that they focus on initially and then ended up addressing what we really cared about which were the racial slurs not not freaking being called a virgin in your chat sucks. So like they they really I really just made it worse room I'm saying they really do the worst time to like do this. I just don't understand like people do with their kids trying to hear all these damn shet. Yeah, they just lied Amish. It's like I swear like half the shit. I'm just like, you know, it's kind of proves a point about how diversity is very important cuz it's like I feel like if you had a real brother at the top like really at one of these higher positions and like verifying or reviewing some of the shit you'd avoid half of this ship just half of it now, it's like it's just a bunch of like I feel like it's just a bunch of like white people were at the topics that you just gave are so fuking ignorant to like the greater the greater world of of things and different cultures that like, they just shoot themselves in the foot so many times so it seems it's either that or like their thoughts are some black people or people of color at the top but they're just not listening to them. They're not let's do them. Yeah, like they you know, they like they like the black hair course is how like wage You obviously don't have a black person and your top tier of your lease to give when I take like that who haven't seen it twitch sent me a pair of custom black Air Forces for Christmas and I was like, I feel like it's not it's I feel like they just don't know the meme black people. No way. Yeah. So it's like you guys need some bikes tavist. I thought it was funny. I thought it was funny. But whatever it was this money, but they've been white Air Force package is maybe they found like a contract with a black and purple. Oh, yeah. I don't even know if that's if that's going to help you though, cuz I'm pretty sure there is like there there has to be a token hi or a diversity higher. That's at the top but they're just not getting any say they can you know, they can suggest something but they're just not listening to them that they're getting they're getting overruled. So it's really going come to a point where you know, it's like people were people of color like eventually which is going to have to do this at ourselves and I hate to keep saying that but I don't think that this stuff is going to get any better until we are going to be dead. The majority at whatever industry or whatever brand that you can think of. Yeah, for sure for sure fucking so all you fucking insane and virgins you did shut the fuk up and stop crying you need therapy. All right, I'm tired of talking. What's the name? I got anything else I would have before we wrap this one up. Stop being a film not. All right, though. She got the show floor. What's your closing statement for gaming Illuminati? 110 go fix everybody for watching over bumps amazing. And it sucks at the same time. Worst game I've ever played this year 5 out of 10. All right, Jay you you got the floor Which is closest neighbor to go. 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Is a New Halo Game Coming? - Kinda Funny Games Daily 06.05.20

Kinda Funny Games Daily

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Is a New Halo Game Coming? - Kinda Funny Games Daily 06.05.20

"Yo, what's up welcomed the kind of funny Games daily for Friday June fifth twenty. Twenty I'm one of your host blessing, junior and joining me is spun on me. Khalif Adams Khalif. How's it going? What the deal be blessed I'm happy to see you and I appreciate that beautiful shirt that you're wearing. That is Oh, yeah! Of course it's a spot on me. Shirt of course got red. I see you're rocking yours to. You got to wrap up if people wanted to support, people wanted to share work at they find it Khalif Guy. We're over on Public T. public link is super super long, but it's bitterly. Slash so merch is the is the short version of that, so you can, you can grab some some gear from there. Yeah, always appreciate the Spanish merge because it's always fresh. It's always. I like I like the one you're wearing specifically, though like I need a cop that one because I like the color like the cursive is looking. It's looking awesome. Listener definitely like check out the video version seal. We're talking about Shirts are Dope Khalif for week before even started this show me and use are talking about grits. I forgot who brought it up? It might have been been Kevin that brought it up. Grits for me have been a thing that I've been eating recently as like a way I was telling you like. In the morning it's hard for me to really get my body motivated for for for like a meal. Right so like grits recently has been the thing where it's like all right grits, not too much, not too little key leveled for the day or for the morning. I should say you're telling me that you have some like you have some recipes. Yes, I'm like secret sauces when it comes. So the folks at home, who don't know what grits are because I think there may be some folks in the community who may not know when grits are so basically, it's like if you've ever had crema wheat, which is another version of that kind of layer of stuff? grits is basically a hominy. How many Husk in that basically is a green and in that kind of gets pushed down to almost kind of like paste which is fantastic in really good. It doesn't really taste like anything until you. To like most things of, but my move was banned my grandma. used to used to eat sardines in a can. Starting tomato sauce in the candidate would add that to her grits as the thing that is a huge controversial conversation in the black community about. Do you put sugar in your grits? The do not put sugar new grit. So that's a whole nother conversation. Where do you? Where do you live? Conversation I am not a sugar grits person like I. I no sugar in their tomato sauce when they do that stuff too I'm just like it's ads weird I. Don't get elected the state of the that you get in the middle of I. Don't like this week. So I don't put sweets. I don't put sugar in my grits, but what I do. Put My grits is Parmesan. CHEESE HAMAS ON CHEESE? Butter in in your grits is the way to go it. That will set you straight for a long long time. I'm a start start doing that. Because like I've been doing I've been eating grits plane. There's like whatever so. I lose Kevin's sister Kevin sister brought home like a big old box of grits, and she was like Hey I'll give you some how I started getting getting into grits recently, and they have like different flavors to. There's like their original, just plain flavor, a butter flavor, cheddar cheese flavor, which I've not tried yet because I. Don't know how I feel about that. Given what I tasted grits of our. Thing though cheesy grits is definitely thing. Is it a good thing? I mean it depends on who makes it kind of? Put in I'm not a fan of American cheese at all like American cheese is the devil, so I don't understand why people eat American cheese because it's like the science. To. Slow down saying. American. American cheese has uses though. It's A. No no American cheese is good in only one way, and that's only if you make it with a group Sandwich, and that's kind of not even the best way to make a grilled cheese sandwich. No that's. That's like the most basic like you want to start to learn cooking. Here's cheese sandwich and it'll. It'll change your life. That's like if you had filet, Mignon put a crash slice on it. That's terrible. Don't do that. Don't do that to the people. Don't do that to your belly. Don't do that to the people. That's un-american. America's American. That's what I'll say. NACHO cheese. Cheese. Like the stuff you get seven eleven, you press the button. And all. Oh, yeah I mean I think that depends on how much bubble guts I want depends on how fast I want to go to. The bathroom is if I use that kind of shoes. Okay this okay all right okay. Sorry so. Questionable asking host this week and asked you this question. We were in your on Tuesdays. House, the last week been for you, I know since Tuesday things have happened as far as guessing on shows and I've seen the reception to spot on me. grow and any all over the over how the week has gone. Have you seen any like change this week or have you seen anything this week as? As far as like how things have gone since Tuesday, they want to highlight. It has been madness and I had to give a huge shuts all the best Fr- best friends in the community for big US up and share on us out and given US love, because no joke. Support that you've all shown to us. As a show over the years has been fantastic, but this week especially has been unreasonably. Was this on. A podcast unlocked, which was fantastic. Going to be doing the charity stream with you a little bit later on today. We US Gamer. I just saw a minute ago. Shadow to Emmett Watkins from McKay SPF crew. Who is magically got us a shout on death, sex and money from NPA, which is not got off, you got a huge blessing. You got a huge shot in that in that enactment. Actually so we'll we'll. We gotta get that to you. but yeah like my twitter. Following has quadrupled. You know we hit crazy numbers on their the stream last night on the front page of twitch. That almost had thirteen thousand people viewing it. It was awesome. Madness has been the best madness that you can have so again. Thank you to everybody who's Repin with us in in continued to share the show out in that specialty episode. Yeah I'm feeling really really happy and in a lot of the hard work. Is paying off a big way so again. Thank you to everybody for with super hard. Yeah, everybody for that and and I've been talking about this on quite a few shows this week and I hope I my main thing is to see. Continue right like I hope this isn't the conversation that ever ever stops. This conversation's conversation is ongoing for people that are outside of the black community. Right because this is a conversation as far as How blacks black people are treated Whether it's within our industries or you just on the streets in general right like that's a conversation that's been ongoing for us forever, but it's nice to see that conversation happening on a larger scale and I hope that conversation doesn't stop on. Is the thing that continues I agree and one of the things I wanted to know really quickly was one It was really nice to see again. This conversation around black consecrate is in black in all these media's blacks in general. Again has been something that we've been talking about, but I think what I saw yesterday on. I, am Brandon TV's channel. If you not. If you're not following, Brandon Stennis. You missing out on one of the best black raiders on on twitch. It was fantastic, really really a raw emotional conversation he had with some other, really big black streamers with Professor Bowman who has been big for a very long time in this space. It was one of the things that I hope to come out of all. This was to see that. That cross collaborative effort between channels in between communities, and all that stuff happened so I think if everybody in that crew, a really huge huge amount of of a love for that because that's exactly what we hope that this show that we did would spark an really really quickly active you massive amounts of love Assad great on twitter this morning. You know I love you. You know I will be. I met I told you that you were the future shit, district stuff, and I'm eating because on the show. Jason Forget where I'm at I. Forget where I'm at sometimes. We hear Miller host this show you can class. You're fine. But. You know I told you the future. This thing and I continue to say that and been so really wonderful to see you take the reins into so many wonderful things and get the love that you deserve so like that to me again. Part of all this to see people. I love and people doing fantastic. Grow and get better at this after they do so. Love to fan for continue to knock stuff out. I appreciate that so much Khalif. This is kind of funny games daily. This is a show about video game, so let's talk about a new halo collar duty, taking an even stronger stance against racism and more, because this is kinda funny games daily each and every weekday at ten am. Live right here on twitter dot com slash. Games, we run you. They're not even using these know about. If you're watching live, you can correct us when we get stuff wrong by going to kind of funny dot com slash Yoron. If you don't WanNa Watch live, you can watch later on Youtube. Dot Com slash kind of funny games, Rusty Dot, com, or you can listen later on podcast there is around the globe by searching for kind of funny games daily to be a part of the show had to patriot dot com slash kind of funny games, bronze members, or above get to write in and silver members or above. Get the show Ad Free with exclusive daily Post. Show housekeeping. I've making the rounds this week. this has been. This has been a crazy crazy ass week as far as like appearances for some reason I. Don't know what the reason might be. People beginning me on their shows. This week is a guest. I don't know why I don't know why. People are reaching out to me specifically, but for some reason I've been on a million things, and so I wanna lay it all out since the end of the week and so this is where you can find me this week. I was on the latest episode of podcast beyond with Lucy, O'Brien. And Johnson Dornbush and home funky who is an awesome awesome. Do you should follow on twitter at Funky? Make fly and that's over at I. Jan, Dot, com, of course. If you want, listen to beyond we talked a lot about our favorite playstation games in our predictions for for next Gen and so look forward to that, or even though you look forward to it, it's out, so go check that out. I was also an inside gaming video game podcast, ascend, news and thousand Brian Gar Willie Madden and A. And that's over on Youtube Dot. com slash inside gaming. That's available right now I was also on game case Trivia, as part as part of games, bots, charity stream, and that just me joining Ben Hanson in cereal from Min, Max Brandon Jones from easy allies Jake Ball Dino from game ranks, and that's available right now and youtube dot com slash Dot Com. Slash Gamespot because I was part of their charity stream and let me tell you. It's been. It's been a long like kind of kind of stressful week as far as like how many things I've been doing. And how like active? I been as far as like being on shows and stuff doing that? Trivia show was very needed. It was so much fun. I highly recommend people. Go Wash. Check that out like it was one of those things where I was like okay cool. I just finished inside gaming all right. This is about my third thing on the today. I now like by by one PM. And by the time we got into it right, it was. Great, like laid back like hey, we're on a trivia. Show the whole can see. The show is that is hosted by been mags. Sorry like lost the name Ear Ben Hanson Ben Hands of Max, he hosts it and essentially what he does is he reads the back of the box descriptions of a bunch of different game. And the panel for I, think for us was four different people that are replaying their participating. Then guess the Games based on what the back of the box description descriptions are the first person to guests gets the point and man I'm not saying I'm not going to spoil it for anybody about who won or or how close it was saying. Is that man your boy performed? I performed so told me don't ever tell me that I. don't know stuff about video games because I almost I'm not GONNA say anything. Away Go, let's do it I. Don't WanNa I. DON'T WANNA. Give it away. I was all also of course on the latest episode of spawn on me, adolescent in blackness with Khalif Bitch alita Zombie, kills Perez and Karen Hawkins, and of course we've been talking about that a lot this week. You find that on YouTube dot com slash spot on me. shutout Khalif Spun on me you and then later today at one PM, Pacific Time I'm going to be on US Gamer. As part of their charity Stream raising their raising money for black lives matter organizations, and that's going to be me Imron. End Khalif for that one PM slot and we're GONNA be playing some. Mortal combat. And that's happening on YouTube dot com. Slash US Gamer Net Khalif, are you? Are you ready for? Oh, wait around, the question is. Are you ready? I have really competitive, so it is. It is on like for real for real I'm ready. The only thing I'll say is that I'm a little bit rusty when it comes to mortal combat eleven. Scarlet is my Go-to of course. I also like jaded, didn't quite a few like pretty much. All women characters in the game like the women princesses that are from. Dania or something like that like the Royal Realm Those are all goes so Catanha. Jade I've been I've been messing around with single lately. But I am still somewhat rusty, but after this after this, this show I'm GonNa go back I'm Gonna I'm GonNA memorize moves I'm coming for you believe. I'm. Imran. And anybody else who wants to smoke. I already told Imran on twitter I, said I apologize for the beaten. You're about to get already tweeted at Nether Room. Does have them come through and come watch out so they can give us some love I'll go do it so rodney will be strong. My Fujian is not there yet, but it's about to be on. The God character all about. All about the guys man this all it is. The gorilla collective, the return of the kind of funny game showcase in partnership with the media India Exchange. Has Been Postponed. This is the statement that they released here. The, grill collective came together to create a space where we all find a voice voices to support each other our industry in our work, it is the community effort of incredibly diverse teams unified in the creation of a digital event to bring hope and positive content to the world we recognize this is a time for action answer voices, speaking out for justice and change to be heard. We stand united. United for Change for justice and in support of black lives matter we are announcing here that are event is moving to June thirteenth for an fifteenth. We're preparing a livestream for June. Seventh to highlight black voices in our industry dedicated exclusively to showcasing games, created by black developers, titles, featuring black protagonists and conversations with these creators. We'll have more details to share shortly and again. That's happening June seventh. On I'm assuming on twitter dot to slash guerrilla collective. showed mix to the. First big big big shots doing on camera work so massamilla. That's awesome. Thank, you, thank you to our patient, producers, mom and Mohammad Khader Nolan and blackjack today. We're brought to you by Brooklyn in ball. Tell you about that later. For now. Let's begin with what is forever will be the rope report. At the. Time. Four stories CAD. Starting with our number one, there's a new halo project in the works at three four three industries seemingly gonNA. This Asher maiden. When does central? Ayrshire writes Hillary Hillary. Infinite should launch in in holiday twenty twenty, but it looks like developer. Three or four three industries is planning another game in the popular franchise today Twitter User Clo- Grill notice that that the team the team was looking for a senior producer to lead a new project in the halo. Universe the poll, said quote. Three four three industries is looking for a senior producer to work with our core services team to help develop a new project in the Halo Universe and quo. It's unclear. What is project to be at this moment, but it doesn't seem like it's the sequel to halo infant, since it's not even out yet. Maybe a spin off or another title along those lines Khalif are you a halo personnel as Halo? Jam Yeah. Love Halo, hills fantastic fantastic series. It's also really interesting to see them. Kind of have to signal out really early when you have a game that's going to be probably coming out in the next five years, or so especially with he'll infinite being. They're kinda flagship type that they're trying to push out. I wonder though how that may again like not split the base, but they also had these kind of tertiary titles like a hill reach, odious T and. What was the RT s one that they did. They did RT L. Awards. Ella was yeah, and I think it's smart like if you're gonNA, build out what you want, your kind of fan base to be for the next Gen. You have to Kinda go far and wide it is. It's actually pretty exciting today working new stuff alongside of infinite so excited to that. That's going to be cool once wherever whatever we get a chance to about. Yeah I think this makes complete sense, especially given the fact that yeah games like Halo Awards exists, and I know that there are other Halo spinoff titles out there that are like not just the main first person shooters, but Halo Games that are doing other things This makes sense to what you're saying right like halo is going to be the flagship title Halo is going to be the big first exclusive for xbox series new match and that's. That's GonNa be that they want to kick off and they want to like live as like. Hey, you know halo this generation, xbox one generation hasn't necessarily had It's big moment right like those master chief collection had kind of a rough start, and has probably gotten to where it needs to be now, but wasn't probably wasn't a shining success that they wanted it to be for this generation and Halo Halo was five was the last one. Six idol five. That that game came out to not the the best reception at least what you'd want from Halo Game, and so you imagine for Halo Infinite. That's probably what they're looking forward to you. That's probably they probably wanted to be very much a return to form, and if that's can be the case, you look at companies like Nintendo, and how they treat Mario and how there's a Billion Mario Spin offs between Mario Kart Mario Party and and all the different things they have there. You can do. You can do similar things with Halo right and I'm not saying like Halo, cart or Halo Party I. Don't think that's I don't think those are the things you do, but I think you can get some interstitial titles in there to to keep the brain alive to keep that brand active to remind people that halo is. What do you hope? What do you hope it is? I mean I have no hopes personally because I'm not really deep in the halo like not as historically not been my jam. That was actually getting. My question for you is like. Do you have any hopes? As far as what title could be, I want them to go real wacky I wanted to do like Halo Beach. Volleyball like did or Did you halo table tennis that'd be. To that game. That thing I mean I. Honestly I I wanted to be something that feels really smart. It may be even like what you saw what they gears franchise where they did gears pop, it might be like Halo Oh. Yeah, I don't like that something in that respect who knows it might not even be specifically console. Maybe it's a did. They say if it's not gonNA title it could be. I don't know I don't know. I wanted to way from the usual shooter in some way to kind of bring those things together like imagine a really dope. Card battle game, but they did in the Halo Universe like Gwen did for which. It could be cool again on stuff in there. Et might be fun. On the opposite end ray, because like I think for me what I read the story. My mind immediately went to where you're going with what you just said. Right like gears pop or Halo, pop or Halo Wars, or some sort of like very different kind of halo title as far as something that doesn't compete with core halo something that doesn't compete with Halo Infinite. What if on the other side? Like a halo battery Al or like some sort of like halo game that is that is like kind of traditional by is going more so with the trends that we're seeing right now in first person shooters. Do you think about reality something that exists? That might be Kinda cool, actually because like, and then you can pull in things from all of the Games in all parts of the universe like the first thing I thought of was the the Halo Shield that you do. Do on the ground and been pop that bubble over you right? There's like things that you can use as as as weapons and kind of Lore to bring into that space that inform how you would get out a weapon case or Kit outguns kit out. You know away squads. We kind of work that would that may be interesting as a conversation this like what a be about royalva look like in the halo. Universe, that's a good look. It's a good idea. Where's your head at been as far as like Halo like? Do you think halo? Are you looking forward to Halo Infinite, were you? Did you play the last Halo Game? Was that Were you disappointed by analog where you find with it? I was disappointed disappointed with the last one. I didn't think that they nailed it. from from a story perspective. I think there were a lot of weird holes and gaps in it that they didn't necessarily nail. I'm I'm more. I'm more excited about halo infinite because I know, they're gonNA. Go Big with it in terms of scale in terms of graphical fidelity in terms of the pretty parts of that thing, the halo stories. Unless you have like pieced all the parts together through the books in the Games stuff like they're just weird things that they don't really necessarily tied together in a nice bow. So I'm is going to be interesting from a narrative. But I'm really there at issue, people in multiplayer and see what they're gonNA. Do you know I'm sure is the one thing I don't want them to do I. Don't have a really long Warthog section at the end of this game. Is that is the biggest part of the halo series. Now was like all right, so we know what's going to happen at the end of a big long car fight. At the end of it when the Warthog so that's what I don't want to be in this. STORY NUMBER TO CALL OF DUTY ADS. Screen that says black lives matter. This is from Sam Bradford at the verge. If any words just released an update four duty, modern warfare that adds a splash screen message in support of black lives in the. Of the black, lives matter movement. Players are being told they need to update their client upon finishing multiplayer games, and once they do. The message appears onscreen quote. Our community is hurting. The statement reads the systemic inequalities are our community experiences are once again at Centerstage, college, ready and Infinite Ward Stanford equality and inclusion we stand against the racism and injustice are black community indoors until change happens and black lives matter we will never truly be the community we strive to be and quote. The verge has confirmed that the message subsequently appears every time you launch modern. Modern warfare on ps four, it also appears on loading screens and switching to a separate mode like warzone, several video game companies have issued statements of support for black communities with this week following protests against police brutality in the US and the killing George Floyd placing the message in front of everyone, playing a hugely popular first person shooter however could help it reach a wider group of people Khalif. Did you see this making the rounds last night? Because this is like kind of a huge thing that was going on. Because, we, we were doing the show and I missed it, but now that I'm hearing about it. I'm very very happy to hear that that's news. Put politics in front of everyone's faces. If you can throw up quotes from general, General Macarthur, you can put up a black lives matter. Black lives matter message there. It also makes me wonder if every time I'm updating if we're actually doing uploading blackness to about a war. Every time you load that Gable PC, so updating share is to me, means updating blackness. That's awesome. So. How'd you twenty five gigs of blackness? But I think it's it's cool to see them. Actually do this work. I think it's important again. One of the things we harp on on the show all the time is like companies have the ability to do these messages in reasonable and and and smart ways. You have captive is on your stuff all the time. Use that time to to put that messaging out there from people make people feel it for a hot second leg was really great, one of the best versions of that. I saw a alongside with the sounds. Like is the stuff that nickelodeon did a couple days. Yeah, with the ad that they did with a person breathing for eight minutes and change. To reflect the time they joined. Floyd was on the ground, being being murdered. Just use that platform like all the stuff is good stuff in that way, but again do that and keep that energy when all these things happen, and then then you don't get the people who are going to be. The ones who are like well. Why are you putting your politics in my games? It's always been there. It's always going to be there. Especially for call of duty, right like all political game. Political Game. Separate those things at all, so just do it in in in. Let people getting their fields, and they'll just be fine afterward. Yeah I definitely agree I think for college specifically. This has been an interesting arc- for infinitely ward because it did start off early this week with them. I believe pushing their season. And like you know that kind of causing reaction, and then then following up now, not necessarily falling in reaction to that, but then falling up about a day, or so later with them, being like also, what was it I just had a brain freeze. what they call do earlier this week. Oh, you mean when they deals e well. They postponed the. They've also been putting in efforts to. Combat Racist content in their game. Racist use names and all that stuff right they. They followed up, and then they said Hey, this is the thing that's going on. That's unacceptable and we want to put a stop to, and we want to do a better job of monitoring it, and so to see them all up with that as an even better and yeah this this right here, right putting that message in front of people before loading screens before you play war zone for a game that is massively popular for Call Judy, that is one of the most popular franchises on the planet, one of the most popular games on the planet for them to do that and for them to to take. Practical practical actions right in terms of. Messaging to people and in terms of using your platform. For good like I I think that's an awesome thing and I think like you know I'm actually pretty impressed. With the fact that they're willing to do that, then you gotta double down like I think that's the thing right now. You got to put the pedal to the metal. When it comes to this stuff like there's no reason it's the lowest hanging fruit to be honest to where it's an easy. Ask than easy task to do. That affects so many parts of the player base that no one talks about you know what I mean we. Both Games often get kind of pigeonholed into this. Very specific like we only play sports games, or we only play you know shooters only playing a certain kinds of games. You gotTA. You gotTA broaden out the base by having these conversations and letting people who do play your stuff. Feel the feelings that they have and also kind of a let. People know that they have an ally in the company. So that's good. Let's get. Speaking of activision story number three activision shareholders think CEO Bobby Kotik is. Too much of this from Sheryl? At v G twenty, four, seven, a number, a number of activision blizzard shareholders have expressed concerns over CEO Bobby Kotex. A big compass compensation package in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission to proxy voting advisory firms represented by the CDW investment, group. Have have advised shareholders to vote against giving activation complete. Say over how much the CEO Bobby Kotik is paid. In fact, the Investment Group has consistently asked for this, but seemingly never managed to get enough votes activation hold its annual shareholders meeting on June, eleventh, where management will preview these the say on pay proposal. The filing says Kotik has received quote. Dollars combined stock slash option equity per year over the past four years, which they say is the largest for any CEO in a similar a company, and so to put context that right. That's eighty million dollars in the last four years for for Bobby Kotik. Well! Despite repeated low approval votes for shareholders, activision blizzard maintains multiple overlapping opportunities for its CEO to earn outside Equity Awards even when even when performance related vesting thresholds have not been met, it reads. Equity Grants that exceed equity grants decks that exceed the total pay of peer companies would be objectionable in most circumstances circumstances it is. It is of special concern in this case, because activision blizzard employees face job insecurity, following layoffs of Eight hundred employees in two thousand nineteen, and typically earn less than one third of one percent of the CEO's earnings with some employees, such as junior developers, making less than forty thousand dollars a year while living in high cost areas, such as southern California and Kwame. Activation defended kotex compensation package in a statement to Gamespot, arguing that activision blizzard's market value has ballooned under Kotik. Khalifa going on here, but bobby tickets making that fat check. and. The system isn't happy about it. What's your? What's your reaction to? All is bubby. Kodak is the James Dolan of gaming in a lot of weird ways, and if you James Dolan and he's the person who's basically tank the knicks for decades problem. Is that the it's hard to pull someone out of position like that when they said. He's dull. He's know balloon the amount of money. That franchise's made over the past couple years, but the problem. Is that last statement on that last. Paragraph is the part that actually matters where the discrepancy between the. CEO's and the employees is so large so huge. It's the reason why you see the conversation around unions unionization. Being really high in the space. You know developers again, not necessarily being compensated the ways you would expect them to with the amount of money that the games bring in I mean that conversation is going to be evergreen in that respect until that actually changes. I'm going to be curious to see. From a consumer perspective? That's the thing I actually want to challenge people at home as well to where you see this inequity happened in this space. You know we all love the game that we love. We love to play the things that we do their points in that ecosystem in that space where we are kind of a part of the you know the way things work in this right like Bobby Coda doesn't make all the money he makes. If we don't buy the game that that that come out of his division and come out of his company. So. It's a part of that conversation. To how do we as consumers think about the fact that we have in all of this working? But I don't like he's. He's making crazy. Amounts of dough like I wonder also at that point and at that level. What do you actually do like? No one really makes that kind of because of the things they actually do of course stocks, and all those things are are in your compensation and all those things. Are a part of the ecosystem there, too, but from like work to effort to money you know translation like does eighty million dollars of work for anything like no one ever. Has You know what I mean, so it's so curious to hear. What the stakeholders are gonNA wind up doing like I. Don't think they can pull a coup in pull out at this point. Because either way he'd still win. 'cause you get a compensation package on the way out, so you know it's Kinda. It's Kinda hard to see him losing in any of this stuff going forward, so we'll see. This is interesting kind of story though. Like the big thing, that's kind of a red flag for me. Right is where the quote reads right it is. It is a special concern in this case, because activision, Blizzard's employees face job insecurity, falling layoffs of Eight hundred, employees, twenty nineteen. who typically earn less than one third of one percent of the CEO's earnings? Right like Bobby. Kotik made eighty million dollars in the last four years to see like so many of the employees being laid off or making less than forty thousand dollars a year while living in southern California like that discrepancy is big right like that's that's that's a big issue, and my you know it's to see like Julius thriving. The brand is quote ballooning under CEO Bobby Kotik, but at the same time as also call of duty Riley it's also the biggest brand on the planet, and I'm not here saying that Bobby. Kotik isn't like you know putting in work to make sure that it stays that way but yeah like what you're saying right like. Nobody really does eighty million dollars of work, and like even if even if you WANNA keep that system in place like. When you when you're having such highly offs, it's hard. It's hard to justify that that amount being made like you look at I believe it was Nintendo. During the you area era where some higher ups took big big pay cuts so that people at the company wouldn't be laid off right and. I'm sure in some in some sense that is like a Japanese thing to do Maybe that's more normalized in that culture, but even still right like that seems right. That seems like the right direction that seems like the right thing to do. and so yeah. The this kind of reasons is ridiculous to me and it comes back to you. The video game video game industry still having a long way to go as far as. Improving workplace culture, improving What work conditions look like in terms of unionizing in terms of workers? Having that security like there's there's a long way to go there and this is kind of emblematic of that right like this is kind of lack of the fact that yeah like things aren't. The way, they should be right like this. This shouldn't happen. I'm fine with you making a lot of money, but it if that's happening why you're losing employees on this level, and why wall employees are not being paid what they should be paid then. Yeah, there's an issue it's like. Where's that money go? Where did that money go? You know what I mean like. You're not paying your employees. You know well than where's that money God? That's that's the weird part of that. Story, number four in this is our final news. Story of the day looks like yes, this our final news story Sony, been, find three point five billion dollars misleading. Australian consumers into your question. Where does that money go? Fund Jordan. At. Legal. Exactly who writes Sony Europe? which which controls Sony's operations in Australia has been find three point five million. Australian. You Know Australian dollars. I was GONNA. Say Australian US dollars while I was like that doesn't make sense. Dollars for misleading Australian consumers over it's refund policy. The company has been ordered to pay this amount in penalties for making false and misleading representations regarding Australian Consumer Law Rights. The court case that led to the settlement involved a series of consumers who contacted Sony over a game. They deemed faulty. There were refused refunds for two reasons The game was purchased digitally, and it'd been fourteen days since they made the purchase. These responses from Sony do not align with Australian consumer law, so the case went to court. Another breach of acl came as Sony Sony told a consumer that it could not provide a refund unless the game developer. It and another told another that the refund would have to be issued using digital currency only usable on the PS store the place. It's just store. Consumer guarantee rights do not expire after add. Digital product has been downloaded that. Certainly do not do not disappear after fourteen days or any other arbitrary date claimed by a game store or developer reads a statement from Robertson's chair of the ACC. Well with Sony told what Sony told. These consumers was false and does not reflect the consumer guarantee rights afforded to Australian consumers end quote. According to the release from the ACC Sony Europe's terms of service implied that users quote did not have consumer guarantee rights, regarding the the quality functionality, completeness, accuracy, or or performance of their purchase digital. Games and club between October two, thousand seventeen, and may twenty nineteen. So, this is one of those ones one of those where I. Don't really have a take on it like it seems like everything happened the way it should happen right leg. Sony violates guidelines Australia right like doesn't give people the refunds that they should be getting based on those guidelines and yeah, it gets find the way it should happen. Yeah, I. Mean It. kind of sheds a light again on how digital purchases! In that being more of a thing, now are going to have more scrutiny because of the way that you know kind of archaic systems have kind of pushed against it in the long way like I remember some years ago. I had a issue on this. with a refund that I needed to do, and they were like look you have to produce. Documentation that tells us when you purchase a saying how you purchase staying. What time in Dayton did you do all this stuff and so that we can verify that you may think I was like. Isn't it your job? Don't you have a spreadsheet somewhere when I made that? Purchase that you should be able to go and find that thing. It's hours and hours like goes through my pin purchases throughout to a really bad back in to find out what some of that stuff was I think. We see really really good examples of how companies are doing some of that work that people can kind of mess around with in use for various reasons like steam where you can refund, the thing basically played it no less than ten hours or something like that I forget what the actual number was, but. You know. I think I think this is going to be the part where consumers have to use their power which I'm happy to see that these consumers did. Is Bring up the fact that inequality happened or something that was wrong happened in unusual your voice to two buck- against that because I think again. We're checking the systems in a lot of ways were saying look this thing that you've made and you produce for us? You've made for us to be able to get the things we want. You have flaws in. Let me tell you what these flaws are. And then we can make me. Get that system to better sadly. Wanted to being three point, five million dollars or Australian. Dollar lawsuit, which is Bobby Kodak. Dollars I don't know we have to figure out how much that is translates, but aaliyah. Yeah, but again like this is again. Use your wallet like as a consumer understand the power of the consumer to to to fix things that are actually wrong in the space so. I'm happy needed that that's really smart. Cleave I'm very curious to see how Sony continues to grow, and how refund policies, companies digital purchases continues to grow, but that future is probably so far away. I wanted to know what is coming to grop shops today. Would I look? It would be if I can find it on a she. There, it's gotTa highlight. The official is coming up way across each and every platform is listened to by the kind of Funny Games, daily show, host each and every weekday. Did. Did it. Out Today. We got out buddies DX for xbox. One of the outer worlds for switch which I've been hearing a lot of things about it seems like game doesn't look that great on switch or run that great on switch. Men's so beware of that one Maybe look look up video before you make your purchasing decision Sarah. Protocol is out on xbox one and PC. PC STRAWBERRY VINEGAR is out on switch. We were here together is out on xbox one Cheo in the castle of Lucio for xbox one rigid force. Redick reduction is out today for xbox one in switch clubhouse games. fifty-one worldwide classics is out today on Switch and let me tell you man I. had that game on my switch I'm very excited to play. Are you familiar with? Think. Do you remember we play from the. We yeah, so think we play, but it's like instead of like. However, many games are in that like ten. It's fifty one and it's like a bunch of a bunch of board games. You know right like it's like chess in like solitaire, a bunch of those games, but also like have bullying, and they have tanks and they have. Like an action, figure fighting game, and like basically there's fifty one games that range from very classic like board, Games. We all know love to like unique like Nintendo. We like fund Fun Little Mini Games, so yeah, it's essentially like the volition of we play, and I'm really excited to check it out because I love replay to I love Classic Board Games and three like this looks like my jam. Kevin was this is this. Is. This housing. You're. Talking about. No I don't think it it's. All fifty one games clubhouse games fifty one's world. Oh, maybe maybe this is maybe this was just one of the Games in it. So long video fifty one game. Okay, oh! This is it yeah, so yeah, like the next four? Four in a row because. Connect between three and four year right on copy. Copy. Copy and. I love just a bunch of different board games. And I'm really excited to play because I need this right now. That's great okay. Yeah. I'm on board I. Love stuff like that, but I love stuff like that. Yeah! Yeah. Some hype for that. We also got command command. Was that was that? See, this is my jam. This is Greek house coop stuff to. Play in around okay. I love you know what my favorite. My favorite we play a game was there was like a game where you essentially are. You essentially have to stack ice cream. Earn like stack things. Just. Ice Cream frills, multiple things, but like it was like stacking game, and he plays your me and things get more and more and more ridiculous as things went I fucking love that game my jam stir. Command and conquer remastered collections out today for pc night squad for switch. They came from the sky for switch Brit- Brit- strike for switch pinball lockdown for switch, Ninja scarf creepy. See The fox tower defense for. Carrier Battles for go guadalcanal for and Mac Karen's Crypt, even death may die for. Burning night for. And Mac virus blast for PC and then mosaic Nico Wife. WHO's to is out today for steam. New dates keenum's Bob. lohr rewriting is releasing a PS four. xbox one in August eighteenth. It's time for reader mail. 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Your options are any as classic edition. snes classic edition the Commodore. Sixty four mini neo Geo mini playstation, classic Genesis Mini and the Turbo Graphic Sixteen mini Keep being awesome kebabs now Khalif this is an interesting one because I've played zero of these. I played I. Played and When you play, those consoles not just a mini version. Yes, I played the mini versions. Yeah I played like. The classic version at a friend's place, maybe once or twice, but aside from that I've had the opportunity to to actually touch the mini consuls. I know about them I know the details about them, but I'm not actually had hands on I. Don't know if you've gotten to like playing even more if you have any of them. Played The any s classic in the Snes Classic I. Think what should happen is all these companies should reach out and give us all these consoles. We can actually test it and then have real. Actually. Great idea. Album. Listen to the show, but I I mean I can only rank them in terms of the way, I would rank those systems in general so I probably. Yeah, I probably put the any s classic first snes over over the SNES classic. Putting any effort snes collegiate I am yes, I am doing. And we. Put Genesis after that then I would put neo Geo graphics and then. Commodore. So. In that in that order, because the does need to be on there like no one was rocking the Commodore Sixty, four in Lebanon. Not Really. So. You said I'm. Classic fallen by snes classic followed by Genesis. Genesis and then neo, Geo. The Neo Geo playstation interpret graphics. Playstation Then Turbo graphics and that. Where does that leave the commodore sixty four off the list? No no commodore sixty four, because if you go down that route, then you have to put on the extracts a classic. PUT ON THE AD. The Bali Astro cade classic, which are all suffered predate. Everyone in this room, probably except for me. It's like you have to go back down the line and do all that stuff. All those into so commodore shouldn't even be on that I can get behind this list. Right like any s classic I I. I. Trying to think of the Games, Any S, any s games that I love and I can't remember. Let me look to see is earthbound on the SNES. Classic because that's like a senior for me. Because if it's not with this, I, think it might be because I know snes online, which is that continues to Piss me off. All the systems that they have listed there. The want the two that I actually really really want. would be the NEO geo. Interpret graphics because I've never really had those consoles and always lusted after those consoles, and then you had to put the radio radio mini in there, too. Because three do had one of the Best Basketball Games every known to man on it in. Magic Johnson's basketball, which was a rip off of running gun from Mommy with any who? Filled, the SNES classic does have earthbound has done country. Anna has RPG and so I personally I personally got to put it at number one I'm just GONNA. I'm with you I'm just going to switch around snes and any classic for the sake of it. That's still like a hard decision. Right because Mario threes, my favorite Mario. So like it's still, it's still a tough conversation, but I'm with you. There the play station classic that one was is kind of a tragedy to me a little bit because I. Think The library on that one just wasn't that strong. I think conceptually like it. conceptually, the playstation classic should be top three but in practice it didn't. It didn't get there and then I don't know anything about the genesis, many or the Neo Geo or the graphics, sixteen million in their libraries, but if they put a playstation too many on there that would. Who everything out of the way Oh yeah. I like an automatic number one by the. Would you put on a classic? Oh God. Oh, there's so many! There's so many games so many games. I can't think of it right now. I like totally bring the BLENKTON. Bring, Fried Shadow losses. Per share. Yes, I feel like you have to have the. It to mellow gear for sure Miller and three. Young for DJ stuff in their. Party because if it sucks because we have to think about third party versus First Party I'm because I'm sure. Third parties difficult As? One. That was the one. Tournaments! You got to put. MTV Music Generator on their? Ready to for sure you gotta put that on their amplitude. Go on there. Yeah, this man, too many dope joint's man. It over the years man. Because my mind is going to burn out three and lying in the street and like all the street games. Kingdom hearts I'm sure the final fantasy games also. Want those on there again. It's like I party versus third party like Oh, how many willing? I won't be a street volume to so bad. Play that right now I got the disc man I got. The I got the disc got a PS to. So like once quarantine is over. We can make it happen I know we were organizing a tournament for later this year. Actually because Gary widow Gary widow was talking a lot about NBA volume to it was sal like like he was. He was talking some some some shit man he was. He was He was challenging me. I don't take kindly I'm dying to see Gary Would Talk Shit? Playing a basketball game with his. Accent. I want that so bad in the world doesn't want that so much in the world. That's going to be so great if it ever happened. I bet tournament is going to happen and I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA. Let it be known why I. Talk Shit so freely. I'm very confident in my. Skills in fact I. personally and I get offended. When other people think they can take me when they think they can handle that smokes. You don't want that smoking. NBA NBA street volume to you and I. WanNa make that clear. For. Was So. Now, it's fine. GonNa. You'RE GONNA get. Up Son now time the squad up Neyla biologists writes in with the squad up and says with everything going on, we forgot one big birthday yesterday. number two questions. Amidror Frankfurter turned a year older yesterday and I just want to wish him a very happy. Belated Birthday. Frank brings such a positive light to the community with submitting questions regularly starting up kind of DFW and his streams at twitter. Dot, TV Slash Frankfurter and. And pushing me to become a better friend in overall better person, it has been absolute honor to consider him a friend, and to be in the same community as him. Thank you frank for being a shining example what best friend could be and again a very happy belated birthday to you buddy and I echo that have day frankfurter, of course like a lot of times in the show. We get a lot of the. Same question mentors because people people ride in every day. People are very consistent Frankfurter is one of those people who's WHO's very consistent rice in very good questions. shadow Frankfurt are happy, belated birthday. hope you had a great time. Hope you had a great day. We did something up. You celebrated. Now it's time for one of them rotating segments this this week. I've been asking people to shout out a black voice in the industry that they want to highlight and colleagues I know that earlier this week. I'm not been able to actually speak on it myself in so I'm going to turn this around on me as far as somebody who I liked to shout out I wanNA. Shout out the Home Rana Manual of course. What's good Games Yana somebody is somebody who I met through the Kinda funny community in the kind of funny. FACEBOOK, Group And it's it's actually a pretty wild story, because I met Rana years ago at this point like maybe like twenty, seventeen, twenty sixteen. and. Essentially like. She wrote into the kind of funny facebook group because. She met her boyfriend. You know through that group because like they had like kind of like a misunderstanding I think re split into Newseum, still like apologized, saying something, and then that kind of flourish into something bigger and then yeah, like they posted kind of funny funny facebook group talking about how they met up. In Seattle and hanging out on all this stuff, and then commented on that saying like Oh, you guys are in Seattle I'm also in Seattle. Let's hang out. and. That's how we met. And that's how we became best friends, and it's awesome to see that like in a weird way likes somehow I. ended up kind of funny. She ends up at West Good Games and this whole week. She's been actually a super critical voice. He's also been inside gaming and she's been making the rounds and being. Super, informative, super super gray in all the shows that she's been on overall Rana very talented human being right. We're also works in the industry. Killing it and so I want you to Rana because we on his absolutely awesome love, free reas- reasonable the best people on the planet. Anybody who came to wise I will sit on. You don't ever talk stuff about. Do it. The NATO biologist. In again and says hi blessing car, bless. You've asked each guest who who the audience should follow slash stand out to them. But what about black game developers are there? Any black developers slash development teams that stand out to you. Are there any games that are now that are now made by black creators that you highly recommend people pick up and play today. Thanks, the NATO biologist and nail biter is an excellent question. I have to specifically that I want to highlight I. I want to highlight Treasury and beat down city by Sean Allen Alexander. I've gone to play it yet. Khalikov you. To check out treasury. Favor good. A I've been very very good. Kevin I have a trailer here I think we played the trailer before on this show because it was part of out today. On of the episodes can pull up the trailer What's the quick pitch on treachery down city? Think of it as a thing of it is like double dragon meets an RPG. So. It's like you have these four or three characters. You can switch swap out between. The two sides curler. And the cool parts about it is like if you think about the kind of Normal Double Dragon game play, but you add into the ability to have real time strategy like a final fantasy seven in that way where you start time you pick, which moves you WANNA. Take in, you know. Pick your defense moves. In its, don't because a combo system like each character has different specific moves you can get. It's amazingly funny especially like from from New York because it's a new york-based deaf. and has lot of references. New York, so like makes me feel really excited to talk about that, but it is. It is really fantastic I. Think the one of the best parts of people will not necessarily. Think about when you game like this is, the writing is really really strong. And I played it. For like six. the other like a couple of weeks ago and every time I got to a new splash screen. It was like really really cool, so Mashhad Sean I have a whole bunch of love for him. He's one of the reasons why even in this industry so anything? He does So Maslin. Kevin is what you're doing right now. Is that showing up on stream? It is. OPERATIVES ABC's middle smaller. Flipped it totally all right. Jared has been the master. Of Production Today Oh. Listeners for all your listeners as Kevin we. Play he nailed. Audio was. You have to be. Part Oh. That's hilarious. Kevin. Way We can play the second link with sounds that I have been talk about. That'd be awesome. So, they've beyond gooden is another black ballplayer who is making this game called? She dreams elsewhere and let me tell you this game. I'm very excited about it as somebody who who's somebody who is really into our earthbound, and who loves loves, loves underhill This game seems to be within the realm of those Yeah Kevin. Go ahead and go ahead and play it. Play with the with the sound. Yeah, because people need to hear the music and everything going on. Here. Yeah, we can hear. Dreams elsewhere. I. Getting. A music rights. Lo Fi hip hop. Kind of thing going on for listening right like it's like top down. perky look in I forgot he was. Basically, a top down, RPG the hill style, but like even more so like. Twilight like. Thousand, like he is also one of those cats who I think of when I think of with future of gaming is going to go. His his stuff is really point. Lead the prologue. The, Demo and it blew me away. Some really really hyped I. What this is GonNa wind up being when he's done with. Yeah. You can take this down now, but she dreams elsewhere again. Eggs is what is called again like the vibes are off the chain, so check that out. Now it's now. It's time for DOT. com slash. You're wrong. You're right in. Let us know what we got wrong as we got it wrong. Aj says blessings said American. Cheese has uses. There's only one use for American cheese and that is the landfill. Even you. You tell me like McDonald's with American cheese on their. Nah. McDonald's beer example when it comes to good food Kevin it is. Not, an example of good food is just an example of food that we all enjoy. Okay I'll take that. Thank you Now artisans. Over God. That's amazing I never saw before. The! Game is a new project in the Halo Universe, says the bodies and I think that's clarifying like. Did they say what what what what what it is? Why are you still looking for your wrongs I? Just wanted to add to the biologists part. Go Go to black game. DEB'S DOT com. You'll find a whole list of folks Oh. Yeah, that's that's good. 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EP 231: FANAA (Annihilation), PROPHETS OF DOOM | WNR (REBOOT)

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And i think and you know what to be honest that there are a lot of in the world who are like remote and places and no one knows anything about but the giants right and like just because you're not known and you're not shariah compliant and board game job or do you think the forces of evil the gelatine do they work cajal. D- do they work against us. I mean take advantage of our our our our sincerety our. I'm not not me not me. That's good good way. So let me let me find the me. So have you got everybody and decide. They don't bother and decide. They bother acura side and decide. So we're on this side could do. We need our scholars. You know some of the odia to become a little bit more stronger against do. They need to harden their hearts and a little bit more. Olive heart-to-heart hardened no because it's maybe a little too soft. That's why it works. Well i i believe i believe that. Everybody has qualities there are certain scholars and personalities that are tough and can be strong and there are certain people that have this fireman right. Scholars are not and i look at the examples number. One had this tenacity. This boldness right and the other one had a different approach right but they both were strong in their dean both with strong forces within islam but they had very different approaches and there was an mean. I'm not saying that will becca along with timid but he observed that for one absolutely necessary. And i'm saying it depends on the nature of the person. Well i sometimes feel like you know was talking about some problems at some. Muslims are experiencing within a certain organization in chicago. They're having a great deal of difficulty with very authoritarian person who is in who'd leading this organization right and it just made me think about it. I'm like man. Why is it that good people despite like how good the the people in this organization are there led by a fricking. I think cater authoritarian person. Who makes you regret tomato. It just makes you not want to work for some reason why that is go wild. I think it is because they see that good. People are not going to behave the way they're behaving and they take advantage of them and they're able they know that because you know what when you have someone like there has a good character. And he's soft with his but he can be tough but he saw with his brothers for the sake of peace. He doesn't want to have a fight. he's trying to follow sooner. Some people take advantage and in on that person and it's unfortunate but there are also like they're thinking in a very different matter in different different manner. What what win. What i mean by that is. They're just looking at numbers revenue stuff like this right people that are on the other side feel a sense of duty and i call calling like many of those by the teachers over there. They can leave for other places to get them better money a lot. More compensation a lot of them stay back because they feel the sense of obligation and this bond they built with the students and the atmosphere and they don't leave and that's like you know they take them for events from syria is true. Yeah i have another. I have my own take on this just in general from amongst the most pious people that i know in this world. They're they're going through the most turmoil injustices people that i know. I handwrite all types of organizations. And i don't think is just about somebody being soft and People walking all over them. I truly believe that. That's one of the signs of people who are friends of la. Don't tell you what i mean by the better. You get walked on over yes. I'll tell you why i'll tell you i. I want to listen so one of the people that i know very very well in another state probably makes about nineteen thousand dollars a year on full-time amazing teacher amazing teacher. He's kind of Comfortable where he is for some reason right. He doesn't want to leave that position. People tell him to leave and do something else he just doesn't want to but there's a lot of hardship involved he's go-getter he's very active person even the message and for married sporting stuff with nine hundred thousand. I know some people are making seventeen thousand dollars a year ago. I is it right stories about single mothers raising kids with eighteen thousand dollars a year. Is it a rural town. No but the idea why. I believe that people who believe in the path of knowledge and and learning and koran. Look at all the people in history. There were very few people who were actually well off in their human being. Some of them wanted to attain more wealth. But they just couldn't. Those avenues are sometimes cut off for them right so my personal almost conviction now is that there's some people that are just cut out to have a very very difficult life because less has something else prepared for them no matter what they try right there so many people i know that are very strong personalities put. They're always in a very difficult situation he some of you probably know people like that. I know people like that that they're always going through some type of misery ever since you've known them some of them are people have knowledge and some of them are just you know people you know. This happens every all types of people. Rick but one thing i've seen specifically in our time as far as koran teachers right. We have this talk in the background. Saying men garanti should. They should be making this much. These type of people should be making this much. These type of imams should be making. Why do you think that it's do you think that it's just a coincidence. That everywhere you go that. Mums that do the job of ten people. All of them have very very difficult lives. It's not a coincidence right. There's a reason for that. I think And i think the reason for that is less of allah is testing them because he has something else prepared for them right much more grant so we see that the path of all the profits right a majority of the prophets had very very difficult lives. I would tell them how to forget all the other prophets promptly salaam look would before he passed away. He didn't have anything to his name. Nobody inherited anything from him. Those other heritage to give out. There were no wills zinc. The inheritance was over. Could've lawn you know what i'm saying. So a majority of people that are involved in the slavic work a big portion of them are always going to be struggling monetarily. That's at least now the way. It is now right but yet then there's situations where you try to fix conditions of people. It doesn't mean that injustice should prevail. That's not what i'm saying in justice in many organizations as prevalent right doesn't mean that we're okay with it. We still have to talk about it. But that's test to what's going to be after like so many islamic or muslim organizations that we know they're struggling and deacon try to solve the problems over they want but a lot of the problems aren't going to be resolved it just seems like shift that the enemies of god are in charge and the started. God thing no. I mean i just feel like i'm livestream because remember the people enemy of luke's our enemies of god the people that bosnia this. I'm going to say that makes enemies of madam. I don't know that. I don't think that i was thinking about this like every time we don't we have mugrabi now before the before street right so i always like hamas up. We better be some slight tonight. Boy maybe it'll covers. I don't know. does that cover you know this. That doesn't of course of course but if it's not like a safety. No of course is the safety the koran safety. I mean actually with intention but yes no such thing as me coming onto the podcasting. Yes slander fest over tension brooke but the other thing. I'm going to say guys. Look the other thing. Is i made a mistake as far as checking always told you guys. Hey men don't check comments right for for any videos that we make doors three bids that has checking comments of our past videos that we made and i found myself in a weird place. I just stop all all but as a three day pige whereas console all the comments. I know what you were doing ship. You're doing what the movie's called. It's called annihilation. Destroy the self. And you know what's been paid off. Everybody aren't you know i i. I respect the sufis for myself. No the annihilation of self is a pet to actually unbelievable realization. This is a means for truth to actually. I believe we cut him. Nobody add them so logs. Me grace special. You have some selfie. Tendencies bro i tell everyone on the podcast. Why i'm more sufis than anyone here. But is actually a very beautiful concept five years. What would you grow if your if anything. I would say that my hands you can see all these people wanting concerns. I saw what i experienced. Finishes is beautiful concept. I've been reading a lot of audit in between like games that i've been playing on my phone with that. Got me hooked on s-class royale. But you. So so i hook hop onto a google and i do a lot of research on. It's very beautiful. Stop stops. He is the destruction of self process. That many sufis take on to find humility. Find their reduction of their self to A purpose a you want to become a conduit for truth. And you don't want anything related to your eagle. You're being filtering out. What is truthful in the universe so in order for to understand phenomenal critically. I think if you undergo this process where it's not necessarily about you chanting. Destroy me or something like that. Were you doing some things. May that may be considered associated with goofy sufis but it's actually a very intellectual process in its intellectual and spiritual process where you are reducing yourself to a state where you are being a conduit for truth and i think that's frigging beautiful. That is putting yourself in a position where you can experience humiliation embarrassment and it nothing bothers you because you have no ego so not saying i what more things is. You're saying you intentionally put yourself in humiliating situation. The all those guys of the other talking. Wait i mean. He's walking about his experiences of trials. Away relief when we when you say finance in sufism is a very different term. Okay i mean literally made that up on the explain background of this. I'm just thinking about his experiences with the movies. But when they say fina- it means like where you're annihilating yourself so that you attain divine presence. Right that's what finance to them. Yes it is an isolation but that can be through any prescription of what the the between the most the marine right like whatever it may be like going for forty days or whatever it is right. There are different thing i do but from what. He's saying like doing certain things they don't. I don't even necessarily think that's necessarily wrong. There was some of the caliphs of islam that went and clean the bathrooms or matt. That was only one. That's not what. I'm talking that financial. No that's something saying that you experience you can experience a sense of shame through that is the annihilation of the self. The eagle that the stuff that that makes you bs yourself so that oh my ego needs to be protected so you lie to yourself so think of. How many times do you have made a bad decision. But you gave yourself in. Excuse will you know what. I told that one time but you know what. I have enough money to give my daughter that i stole from the store. Let's making something and you excused your wrongdoing for whatever reason but you're eagle had to give yourself an excuse from whatever i've understood with related to finance is at you've reduced your ego to a level where it's nothing and you had no you are not Superimposing or you're not allowing yourself to make excuses for whatever wrong you've done you accept the truth and the you work to change whatever problems that are are within your soul so that lasting change is actually implemented within your mind so let me just add onto that if you don't mind because some people there's a misconception is that once you had attained level then your your fixed. That's not the case right. It's a work in progress. Think you're not saying that. I'm just saying people. Sometimes they talk about this and they think they have to reach and then when you reach the mccown does place stage and then it's over. It's not working progress. Look one of the one of the Things that we hate to do the most is to push ourselves physically to the point where your lungs are burning and you just want to give up for me. When i put myself through that situation which i rarely do but when i do you feel complete broken us. And when you're in that state where let's just say it's cardio like lots of spreads and then like circuit training or whatever. I'm just using that as example right when you put yourself is such a grueling situation that it's so painful that everything goes on all you think about the pain and then everything your whole disposition how you look in front of people. Everything changes you. Don't care about that anymore. Right and what ends up happening. Is you start seeing things for what they are. And there's a small time period while you're recovering still up until it's finished is the weakest of the human being once situation. We usually end up going back to our normal cell right. But let's say that you had a crazy crazy grueling workout. It was like ten minutes of not being able to breathe and then another twenty minutes to come back to baseline again right up until that time does what usually happens to me that recovery period is you start seeing things clearly. You don't even consider doing it. Because of the extreme pain that you've put yourself through just connection with you an elaborate because of this extreme deficiency that you put yourself through challenging another good way of describing. This is like If somebody walks into a martial arts class or look jitsu class and they're much stronger than somebody that much bigger physically maybe fifty one hundred pounds more and then they get submitted by that person. That's a situation. Where if somebody doesn't have a health ego it's gonna change crumble their world of whatever they built up about themselves from many many years. Yeah yeah and this comment something. Yeah please muzzy. so what. what what. You're talking about as far as fanatic. The original sensor. We're talking about a yelm book. Daddy their understanding of finance very different. What they meant that we accept the other of course like that. Hey forget about what my opinion is about something. The other of a loss of hunt allah is what we accept right but he mentioned suraj other people mentioned that later on that the superstar in that they ended up taking into a different area where matt holland they meant and for example the fanatic which means like which actually is in line with. What do you mean like rb said that right that you attained divine attributes through mini. It's a stage to reach the divine happening right. That's what they so they mentioned. And that's why ladder and later on from that line which most modern sufis are influenced by that firm has a very negative connotation. First of all. I make fun of the exception to the illusion or the accusation. That mo- sufis tic from illinois. that's incorrect no no. I don't think most sufis take everything from evening arabic and everything but they accepted works. Now look at this whole idea of someone having just because they have few problem areas that you discard everything. yes forever. Just like the maulana shop elite than we that we had the podcast about. He had a couple of big major mistakes. But you know that doesn't mean. I discard everything the that he wrote about. You know so. What i'm seeing is just because if not to be brought them a finance doesn't mean that He owns the the actual meaning of. No it's not him star before him. I said there are people from a time of book. Daddy of suraj to mention at this time of that and it became a common practice was not even out of these result of coniston and the melodies came. And then they were. The mahdi's are the ones who actually do the self humiliation they go. That's a minority. They go into a public and they do humiliating things to embarrass themselves. So they destroyed the there south. That's not what we're talking about. I'm talking about an intellectual process also combined with the spiritual process where you are reducing whatever eagle you have to allow truth to be understood by so that there there are problems within human beings where we have set up presuppositions. Before we want to have you guys are on this Thing day and night. What's it called clubhouse clubhouse right people don't wanna listen because they don't they feel like if they concede something their sense of self is destroyed. Whatever scholar if we criticize them in whatever capacity people freak up for freak out you know for their freak the heck out right but up tells you humble yourself did you have a moment was funny. He's talking about finality. He was like a person here to like the complete opposite of everything and he would if he means by. That is that i'm the most. You're the real sufi here. Not him sufi bro. He doesn't like being called that whatever. That's called shit. Remember like we can't sufism exists in this individual that are pointing to right now while you guys should talk to mrs. You got get her. Take on yeah i mean. I don't think she's gonna be like him. No no but she was so we moved up in prayer. Don't sometimes problems happen when you have When you're practicing out. Do you ship overheat. Sometimes he doesn't want to take the throne you know he doesn't want you don't undermine his he's about to be apart with rica. Remember that three or four years. I still. i'm waiting for the membership card. I wasn't. I want to join the. What was it role my fiancee's in the group earlier. He liked balance so i think what he's talking about tyskie camera he's talking about. I'm talking about him. But testa this will cool to eating leading. Roy had a very different kind of we need to redefine for now and take back the house that it's not saying there are. I'm seeing actor talk about this. Entire discussion is a complete cluster. Cluster mona i think in essence saying that. The idea of humbling yourself. And there is something beyond your control and that you accept because of a loss of ponta allah and that you are not winning. Be arrogant because arrogant arrogant to the attribute that we understand right but we are going to be joining us. Show i told her. I like yo come here at least potato. Tom com club join club. Yeah he's on clubhouse. Deliberately eric is saying so the thing is that that whole thing but then the problem is that it's taking and it's kind of gone to a whole new level because finance idea we don't even find in any who this is. Only inventively ron. Right could have been something goodbye. Categorization hold on. The concepts are found in highly doubt but i mean about about not being arrogant and tv humble and the koran those walk upon the earth humbly right. They don't walk arrogance. Those are all founder but the concept how they define. It has changed drastically from the time. Let me let me clarify. So if they're what i'm talking about okay Before we get to. What i'm talking about is not the what you related The unity of existence. That we are all we are all god and by Reducing our humility to molecular levels of subatomic close. I don't know what somehow attaining some love divinity. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about a reduction of the self the ego reducing that so that you are able to inherit truth from the universe from your relationships from society any other interaction you have with the world that you are able to discern truth from falsehood and make good decisions good conclusions based on truth up objective. Truth can i can. I just go out even even summarize even more simply what i you're saying i agree with you a hundred percent. Look there's a reason. Why a less of data is very very specific in the koran and why he tells us to establish our prayers right now just listen to her. I'm going with this. Everything we do outside of our salat affect our satellite self. So what does gift enough to solve our local lube. All of those synonymous terminologies all stemming from amazon sun meaning to worship says if you see him and if you don't see him know that he sees you everything that you've done outside of your salah is going to bring you to this type of humidity in your sola. That's the reason that nothingness is. What in salah is when your head in your nose in your hands and your knees in. Your feet are on the floor for a less with either that complete nothingness. Everyone is going to have a different level of nothing when they're inside the thing. I am senate but yeah so so so everything that we've done now. Outside of ours is a tool to bring nothing in front of all the time of all of the studies that people do as far as get enough and purification of the soul what the original understandings was to bring. Someone skipped enough. And all the stuff that you do in your instance. Fina- is something that brings some someone to level where they're going to leave their sleep. Stand up in the middle of night and do the hedge in front of la right because there's everyone else. Asleep does no other proof to less of hana-hoi to isla when everyone else is asleep in their beautiful sleep and you're standing in front of in the last night for instance dan you've destroyed everything about yourself and your nothing in front of la right now. That's what i'm saying. All these things are tool. You're talking about all. These things are tools to bring ourselves and nothing is in front of a law. That's what everything revolves around her salah. I understand all that. But what what you're talking are are actual rituals. But i'm talking about intellectual rigor as well. I agree with you that that has to take place but the that we're show what i'm talking about nothingness. That intellectual rigor is close to bring us to the point. Where do such that in front of a la like salaam sorta bokhara soon at the nisa in his longer than all the three he read. Why was he in such for so long. And what was he saying. And what was he thinking. Exactly right so what i'm saying. Is that mental. Rigor that you're talking about is supposed to lead you to bring your head to the show adams zinc with complete nothingness and then yearning for that feeling of being with all the time because you've given up on everything else and you're nothing in front of everything else. You're you're nothing in front of love and nothing else matters to you anymore. But now you see this extreme valley and putting your head on the floor for less with either. So you're talking about is. Of course i agree with that and i was actually agreeing with you disagree with you but i think what you're seeing now is. There's a next step after that. What does that leading us to do right that intellectual rigor and it's leading to the servitude of a less of hanno with either right to our limbs through our such the and all that kind of stuff right. I'm not saying that you just secluded yourself into spraying. Forget everything now. You have a responsibility because now people are your pathway dejan. You know what. I'm saying if you allow us asking forgiveness if you're wrong somebody you have to go into personally. S and forgiveness are gonna forgive you so people are a pathogen. That's merciful was wrong. I'm all forgiving. But if you're just somebody else wrong just is you have to go to that person you have to rectify that with the rain. So now there's that thing of action with other people the creation of luck the created that you have to also be very. That's what this intellectual rigor in this financial lead to. I'm not saying that you're not doing this. But i'm saying that after this is in a work in progress that things should be branching out to other things as far as showing your nothing to love like you know how difficult it is like sometimes for some people to go and serve people especially if they're not used to brought up like going and serving people in helping homeless people for instance. There's this small example that i'm using rate helping a homeless people giving them close putting clothes on them. There's some people that do that in the past to get rid of their against that humility you're talking about is people who haven't bathed in a longtime forget about homeless people who have invaded in long time. They didn't have access to water and actually like helping them and putting clothes on for them rate that requires a lot of not just mental for two requires a lot of software. That requires a lot of diminishing yourself. Because you could be like if you've got money by going to pay somebody you know. I really think about here. That kind of teske. The story that was when about number one when he was relief more used to follow him at a nice to go into his house. Nightime and quality going nighttime going through the nighttime so one day he went into the home at nighttime and those old blind woman sitting there. And like i think it was something about maybe because story but the houston drop off days so he brought dates. I mean i think he bought a second date with him but she recognized that it was not able becker because he used to give me date with the pitch taken out of it right. He's to open all the take but going in the middle of the night khalif of the muslim more than empires purnell like at nighttime when everyone's asleep. Nobody's knowing what you're doing you're going in. You're giving that's humbling could easily have a servant. And do you have any one of your soul that i mean omar on us to carry the flower on his back home blow. Dust dustin his beard but making rounds every night but why because not only because he wanted to but because he felt his responsibility verse and the edina more. I'm gonna like he felt like even used to worry about the animals do. They're going to complain to a hotel that they were carrying too much load. So i'm thinking that. When i think and i think like like humbling. I think this is like it should make you have to show that while you're in this position where you're in a constant remembers. I'm sorry it's okay security for second nightmare me off all night problem. What's wrong with you. I was tom bro- hour shift. Is we have a picture of emergency to go. Quick sorry sophian. Sorry bro try to hear plea for the real shake industry my bro- anew yourself. He's to junior junior names lhasa the x. Into men it'll get no more suits themed than some sitting over here in verandah baller. Offi listen to you do over here and you know shooting each other golden each other shell chicago. You got used to remember when you went to starbucks together and you order. A coffee in the southern accent. Is that what you're doing to. I knew he pulled off the best other next. And he ordered a whole entire. It's like it's like it's real thing. Now he's working down to kentucky right or southern ohio so you picked it up right work all over all over that area and so anyways i pinged un. Because sim made a state maintained serious. If you don't give up. I was waiting on the investment. Sofiane was the name of that order again. That's like ping this dude. You know it was. It was a legit mental block. Man i know the catan eatery. And i've done research about you guys and legitimately have so much respect for you guys and this. This punk were weird sitting my right eye. It says he's he's trying embarrassment. Because i couldn't remember the name like like that. You know you just gotta testing right now if yours. Sometimes you missed you. Get some mixed up and you don't want to the cute. Sometimes the way you explain adorable i should say oh my deepest apologies to you and The elderly Catania's problem hit. We're trying to understand the fanatic concept of finance and some brothers here. I don't want mitch the name they're saying that this concept is related to not have these problematic. Okay not you. So there was a made. There was some commentary made that kind of meant to discredit the idea of what it means for now. Which if anyone is just joining the episode it means you know the annihilation of self and can you provide some feedback. Some help too. I'm this concept. I got an issue. Whenever i hear somebody going after eating that way mike. That's what i was saying. Don't let let him waited while. Is that a finish angle head to mute. Mind what had pretty please i apologize. This is not how the house some able so when people go after nod. It'll be like this. I like to remind people when there's something should continue to help me in. Several of his other students on several occasions. That nod abe's works aren't for every ee. No you you don't just you don't just go grab this works And start picking through them thinking that you're going to be able to understand everything a lot of the language that's in there very complex the themes that are addressed. They're very complex. And they're just not for the average job to be able to read write a and this is come up in the past. So what are you saying that only your people can understand nada. No that's not what's being said but what is being said. It is basically the same concept as one. Moussa went the right moussavi At knowledge from alonzo agenda he went to learn from him and he he thought he understood and then when he finally met exhibition and went through. The trials went to with salem. He really didn't understand was hither user to and it's that simple. It's not that complicated. We don't colder keys to secret. Knowledge of nobody does let least of all oughta be but at the very least demand is dead and if we can't agree on anything else we can agree on the fact that we should respect a dead right. Yeah yeah no we're not. We're not disrespecting shift. Lived in arby's we define putting into once. I think i need that. I need to make laid to understand where the conversation think just took into different conversation so hold on one second so what he was talking about everything back down. He was saying fanatic. Is the idea of analyzing oneself so that you become humble and so what i said was this is generally correct under the understanding of genetic bughdadi in that time and that era but somewhere in the time of the nba's scholars went out and it became something more than more than just that and there are problems with people today. The modern in the modern tax. Some people understand this to mean like in terms of like in attaining divine presence or like in optics or the trying to become divine in a sense and that has become associated with that unfortunately. And here's the thing we're like For for for the love of god this is going to happen right. It started off like that during june. Nate's time right and junaid wasn't the prophet salivas so been been donate wasn't the prophet. Whatever he brought forth was his understanding of what fennell was right then. He tried to make it accessible to the people his time as did his successors in those after him But that's the problem with these general concepts that at one point or another. Somebody's going to interpret them in the general sense. Right and those generalities lift up in the air for interpretation and they're gonna keep getting picked data now there's people out there. There's a here morocco right now. I'm not want to talk bad about nobody but but these dudes will actually do drugs and consort with the jin and it calls. They call this the concept of annihilation and getting closer to god through these means now. It don't take a rocket scientist on their stand that whatever they're doing is just wrong but there are people that buy into it then because of these concepts are so general that maybe somebody's that eloquent that they can put a spin on weed or over to somebody and they'll buy it. You get what. I'm saying. No of course but i mean i guess what. I was trying to say that. Generally when i hear the word. Especially it's something that always has like this cloud over rights when you say that people associating with it's important to distinguish what you're talking about trust and remember more. He comes from a background where he took look. He's speaking from. I can be fair here. He's speaking from the background that he came up with. You can rewind the episode. You guys laughed when i talked about. Yeah because you were talking about how you want. Let yourself. I left here. so what. So what ships fan. Can you. please help us understand. What how you understand for now and how we what what we can gather from it what we can learn from it You lie to whatever benefit We can't get closer to god. Almighty as far as china is concerned right of from the arabic language. It's it's grim as grammatical meaning is the i guess. It's the act of erasing something or doing away with something altogether extinguishing something I guess the way you're trying to apply the way that the sufis of by It depends on your background right. it depends on. How can i say this. I was talking to my wife right. My wife's very progressive. And i'm very conservative. So i you know. I told my wife that there are certain issues that i will listen to her on. But there are others that i won't because you're working from a framework of knowledge right whether it's political religious or whatever there's a framework that you're working from that framework unfortunately blinds you anything. That's outside of that. The human nature to do this right. So even with even with concepts of disallow concept of religion concepts of ethics concepts of epistemology concepts of politics. Whatever right if you're working from a framework then you're going to understand those things from framework age. That's just human nature once again so if you're asking for like the sufi definition of finance distinguish yourself in the worship of god there's no difference between that belief shift on the mentioned this that it's based on its own untolerable the luck in the qatar olympic. All saying we are or what was that fellas of forget us. Apart from rockefeller he was. He was talking about prayer and he mentioned in this poetry. Gosh i'm trying to remember but the basic meaning of the peace poetry was that you have people that don't take from prayer anything but Looking at the mum is in the money up. You look forward to looking at the imam and standing in the prayer you might find him standing on top of their matt. Their prayer a their hearts are in the marketplace buying and selling where ross lewis in the hetty that In a little bit that the the the person who's the practitioner of prayer in conversation with his lord. And i mean i guess the end result of is to lead yourself to remove and polish out of you all look the bad that you have been you which is impossible to. There's no way you're gonna be able to do that but your work at it day after day after day after day. And you're going to try to replace all of those. Beth things good things now whether or not you're able to reach that that's up to god almighty but the better you become the closer you get to god that that's the whole concept of beautiful. A beautifully said. Thank you so much for coming on the show I know we. You message me a few days ago. And i didn't i was i think i work or something but Let's catch up later in shallow. But i like the wishes he said failure. Those pretty dope feller some feller sitting pretty away. All right guys pretty cool. let's Do have you guys heard about this. One conference that's happening boy. Here we go Nathan sorta hunter homeless homeless up. Yeah what about it. Are you going to pull it off the Conference thing are you. Are you looking because africa. The details of it The conference shift. It was about It was entitled modern prophets That's what it was. Have you heard about yes. The modern profits is a conference. That's being held her and real name name out. It's yours ends. Keep going sook spotlit camera. Ish might want you talk about it. What the said conference called the modern prophets right. They just had. They had a little subline sub headline saying learn from the modern prophet right. That's not the name of the conference so technical here according to my calculations that is That we have to be representing other side appropriately. I oh my god you kind of benefit of doubt. No if you're gonna be a sufi then we should try to practice. It wasn't even conference. Let me look it up real quick something about profits. It's something about love. it's nothing like the love Extreme love who would then you know. It's a catholic conference earshot lunges muslim. Suicide okay no. Isn't that organized far. Yeah i can tell. I mean i'm generally not like don't yeah don't want some. Muslims organ- organizing. Yeah okay just making feta. People call muslims. I don't think you had the smirk on your face. So this is something for my company or a organization called the middle church and the conference is called. The revolutionary love conference sunsari hippyish from the seventies middle church. I liked their name to because they know that most of the middle of the noise truck it over from middle. Earth towards union revolutionary. Love are you tending depends. Maybe you'll get you on panel thing it depends on the pedal is it depends on what they're honorarium as Do you say well. I'm sure he is there. Like a bit of a agenda or something on there were speakers and what they're going to be talking about or is probably at the right to love meeting gay stuff. Probably i bet you something. I think i think we should attendance no boundaries on love love anything. Everybody could be interfaith. It's somebody said it was shown mondello sanjay gupta can't excuse at one of the original people who claimed to be a muslim that came out as lesbian back along with face raising the koran with face. Slalom back in lecture hughes from the nineties rue the really got to prominence in two thousand eleven when he was on i quote unquote gay muslim to be at a gay float in new york city on the parade. The pride parade sectors of something like this is a. This is a conference april. Fifteenth to the eighteenth. I won't be out of town. Does its own won't be able to do virtual vs on the airplane. I wonder if they're going to be fast. The whole three days fasting over there is it. Yeah april first. Starting we stand we stand on the precipice of of something new Innovators already the. Let's examine this through the lens. Of course not done. Why don't we do that for a change. Let's living in these terms if you came on with cafaro former default one against you. How do you like that shit about the muslims that are on the panel. Yes yes muslims. Think what they're doing range. Yeah was that the agenda. Read the the introduction. I don't even see it. Imagine leaders being held accountable. Okay we we re not social choices. Stuff trigger warnings are probably in effect here night in pierce in. Just love hard that public ethics. I wanted to scroll up though the actual body. I don't want topics. go up. scroll up no down. There's there's a middle paragraph thirty living in in these islands have been challenging fronting in deeply divisive for all of us the name of threats and the show for you. You gotta speak the phone. I'd have a whole lot. Just i can't. You're breaking up there. I got a hold on wait. Divisive government in division of our understanding. Hang i'm making bit for euro here. You go there. you go government. The devolution of understanding of the truth expanded economic disparity the rollback of voting rights to blatant expression of racism and xenophobia. The assault environment. The impact of a pandemic in very dismantling about democracy has resulted in fear alienating explosive violence in into institutional collapse the aban abandonment of moral principles in the absence of a unifying. National vision has left the search for the common good in tatters and yet we spend on the what police oprah's episodes of something is a precedent or precept. Don't precipice precipice okay. Something new in the moment our ability. Imagine a loving future is more crucial than ever. We will never secure the just world. We all deserve if we don't have the moral courage to dream what it will look like. In april we will gather artist activists faith leaders present day prophets and. Anyone who's conscious has been set ablaze together. We shall coast to take us there. We particularly focus on artist roles in our collective dreaming in power writing new stories and lifting up new storytellers to challenge or change our collective narrative. So seems like just trying to tackle the anti nfl. That was happening. Like from the right wing. Probably seems like probably. Who's on the panel. Do they have a list of names. Yeah yeah yeah and the website. If you if you go back into it should say speakers or no no speakers scroll down or gee to go to the library poops joking. Manda hambrouck ashcroft. Reverend reverend probably one of these a compassionate christians. Maybe i mean they call the you know the the hardcore columbia lukewarm christians. Yeah the i don't want that. Why is baker. I don't think the diet trial might michael strahan. Keep going william j barbara the second. Oh he guy who remember the guy who who got kk the robes remember the black guy who is not i. I thought it was in for a second here. But he looks very similar to that guy right and He's a pastor of a green leaves to shutian church. Okay scroll down so first alarm. I sees the pronouns. Yeah she her genesis. Obey the bay or be intersection -ality. Oh she's muslim slim biracial black woman. Hail started so cruel wearing when he wants to trace a black man just justice a witness ministers of the united church of christ and the senior. The christ the king church these future guests on some things. All the words are people you would be inviting soon people. He's probably got their twitter handles. Anybody wants the platform on this panel. Sultan sneakers opening everybody More more sharon bruce. It's rabbi ambrose. I'm sorry she her the rabbi okay. We know that she looks like that Heather dynegy's on espn who does college football polls. Oh yeah anyway. yeah People simone by going to say is they're going to say how dare you look at that woman and did it looks at the menu. A sexist misogynist maheen mean you just the dude. I'm good but you're not okay. You can't do that because you're not a female. You can't talk about mark charles. He has is a speaker and consultant center american woman of dutch heritage in navajo man. While do you think they mentioned that. Was dutch to avoid the anglo saxon thing like i have nothing to do with where people know because dutcher whites but meaning the anglo saxon anyways. Aaron kuhn ahead of the pastor. The reverend the reverend does this girl. I want to see the muzzi's under i mean. Miguel dilatory uh-huh gabby debut. Kelly brown on any ellis known. Okay oh well katherine fugate and gupta gupta tara hamilton. The second liaisson. John jeff anyway. These guys they've whether it's work or or literally everyone's crybaby probably this guy number after number one but awards this guy world class number one valerie car. Oh she must be. I think she's yeah. Okay that's enough. I think that's the only mazey's down that's it we always you know he's a he's a hindu okay. I think this is offices is so many. I just wanted to almost look at the white girl on their shot. Everyone's favorite knucklehead. I would have a agenda to see what they're taught a winner of oprah winfrey's i chats. What's spa award for boldness. Bing both what coming tara reform it as a founder of the moral courage project. Her shouted quips. People do the right thing in the face of fear. She discovered her mission to a deeply personal journey. In two thousand and three hundred. Release the trouble with slam today in open editor fellow muslims about why misogyny impressions must in the name of a law in two thousand. Seven shut turned the book into an emmy nominated. Pbs faith without fear in two thousand eleven she published allah liberty and love which shows how islam can be interpreted in the twenty first century along the way russia the humor professor of moral courage i teaching at new york university and now lecturing an oxford university initiative for global ethics and human rights leaders book. Don't in our deeply polarized time. She says she stands. She's she's she's standing for. What is right is not enough to make progress to make progress. We must also learn side of this something hovering over there. I can't read it. Oh yeah we must also learn to hear the quote unquote labeling. His easy but listening is a form of more courage. Imagine so do you listen to the patriarchy. I mean since. I mean having a conversation anyways it's just it's an interesting panel. I mean i'm wondering what it may not be innerfade. It may be about just combating than a phobia and encouraging tolerance and okay with that on the surface level. As long as they're not trying to force anyone to accept what they believe. You're okay with saying. Hey we ever believe in you have your new of. You're welcome to have your yours. I'm cool with that. But they say no you have to accept our promise to if not your cancel and your misogynist and you're patriot and your f- you wish premise people. Do you actually have faith. And i think they're going to paint the out boldly say that you either with us. I think what they're gonna do. They're going to frame it so that people who have a different viewpoint than them are racist misogynist. Anti women anti homophobic all right. I mean they're not going to say it but they're gonna frame it that way if you. How could you not embrace us. We're calling for these universal human values. Are you against human rights. Like it'll be like that kind of framing you know so. Basically these these people sit themselves the the inheritors of the profits. You know even even if it's symbolic the unions. They're not literally speaking metaphorically implying that. Hey we are the leaders of the new revolution this this this clown car of Idiots are are now have position themselves to be leaders of humanity that they are the people who will give moral direction to the world. And i think that's at least what we need to. It's not about them. Declaring themselves literal prophet. That's not we're not idiots here and we're oh we'll getting up on a technical term related to them being themselves a modern day prophet. That's not what the issue is at all it stem positioning themselves as leaders and influencers society exit prophetic examples of people. Even christmas is a church. Has rains date. Their term for prophets is a little different than ours right craze. He's profits differently than we do. Yeah even sorta too so but technically the end at toilet guy. There i can. You know we find mirza ghulam mud. Are you always okay with it. I thought i'd say we're gonna end this right now. We're going to guide to ended with the guy in the toilet. And all i said they ended with the guy in the you guys having your clubhouse friends waiting to raise their hands out of there waiting to speak well there was one but i'm not really i don't know he wasn't he part past the guy who ran about something five one. If you want to jump on the stage talking about benda's coffers because this is where they're running the relax invited him for headquarters. What am i got in and welcome to the show. Guest how are you. How are you how you android users doing Android because because just and his club housing. He's all day every day on this place. He's having a great time. I'm doing good how the landing hunt you heard about this conference. Call the modern day. What monday love or something. Modern revolutionary love. And i know like you being in the field of you. Know therapy and psychology. You're invited to a lot of different strange spaces where there's a dubious Cast of characters on certain every panel. I'm sure there's many penalty on that's perfectly well and good but sometimes you just are invited to a conference where you there are strong disagreements. You have with the people on the panel and you have to share a stage with them. Can you talk to a talk through specifically what the situation is related to the modern day. therapy world where there's so much of this woke movies. What was fumbling. Yeah but basically the whole lot. This woke Imagery or dialogue. that's happening. Are you able to navigate through this and help our listeners. Through this you're gonna put me into despotic. I didn't despised high so we. I don't know about this conference so first of all but i think i understand your question So there are a lot of challenges. I think the challenges that psychologist faced. Sorry i'm out of breath. Because i'm walking and i'm fat d- Challenges that we call. Space are no different than any other. Muslims that are living in the modern times. And i think the the The way we navigate them should be the same as any muslim should navigate. And i think she hammer can probably answer this better but what i do is i remind myself of what the hate is. And who is the the they were supposed to worship and to have to constantly remind myself of that and all the other 'isms out there In any field in any category and all the other idols that exist to other the exists inside of me outside of me are nothing but a form of should Whether it might be a major form. And if i do that constantly And so far. I think have been protected and if i have deviated meal you know gentleman and that's what i do. Conjure always gentleman you. Could you totally have taken this opportunity to blast your fellow colleagues. But you didn't know you could be honest right because here's the thing. There's so many to last. So i started blasting here. There's going to be you know shots fired everywhere five between you and me. The there's a lot of crazies in the mental health field. And i'm not talking about the patients i'm talking about the actual. It's a healer therapists fought. You know man there there. There are a lot of related to mental health therapists. Being the best healers for their patients you see. Can i just interject one. I want to just describe a moment that mean for had witnessed going on clubhouse so there was i think a fellow psychologist in the same room that he was in. I could be wrong. I think or therapists of something. If i remember the room title was can you still have friends of the opposite. Gender post marriage right and it was a room for muslims by the way right up by muslims. I guess presumably report. Muslims right. So they're all talking all someone goes. Hey you know. he's really psychologists. Can we bring them on. So he's like yeah so he comes on right and michelle. He gives him good advice. You know war. It's not just about the psychology aspect of it but human nature but also what a law says in these issues kind of bringing back. The dean hannay rudely interrupted now. We want to about the religious stuff go. We don't i just like whoa okay. And he was so polite much like he did. But but like that's how like. They didn't even advise muslims with removing islam. From the diet which is very strange. I don't know if you caught that had broke. Forget that i'll i'll do better. Yesterday was a room in a title. That room was what is your perception of god. Okay that was the title of the room and when somebody was talking of my friends with louis was in there and then the one of the monitor says okay. Let's bring religion into this. And so i was like what like your title. The room is what's your perception of. God wants to bring religion into this. How do you think it was like mind boggling. I didn't know how to ask the question. But i was like how. How would one talk about talk about god or religion so then they were like nobody people who believe in god but they don't. They're not religious. I said then you should title the room. What's your perception of a higher power. But you can bring that in and then we have pakistani rooms every day whenever you go and talk about religion like let's talk about religion. I'm like this is islamic republic of pakistan like the majority of the country is muslim whether you like it or not. This is going to be about religion. If you don't like it you know. Leave the country get other country so focused on his face and i. All i'm saying is that he has tried to reach out and like really giving this trying to be like the muslim professional psychologists and and i've seen different cases not do i'm forgetting some of now but what's amazing is right man. There are people who are trying to find that niche market and focusing on the muslim community. And like they're really concerned about islam. No they're not even concerned about mental health therapy. They're concerned about spreading an ideological frame of thinking and certain types of thinkers related to feminism or Marxist thoughts that are creeping into the world of mental health therapy and it's not necessarily about the patient anymore but actually about spreading their though the woke culture the critical race theory Idea that that stem from you know so I i know. I i'm kind of i kind of put five in a difficult situation where he didn't he worked with. These people like dane. Day out. So i had to ask and see if you're willing to put your job on the line job set anything so far. That would put my beautiful. There's a beautiful poem by welcome iblis shooter. It's beautiful because he he's putting a beliefs in his followers in this central body meeting rate mazdas issue and they're having a meeting and one of the followers talks about what's happening in the world and and he's like. Oh no. did you hear about karl marx. And how he's coming out and we'll just start off. I would like imperialism and what imperialism has done for them and then they talk about well. Now the socialists are coming up and marxism is coming up and then the other one of the followers like well. It's okay we got fascist coming after take care of that and then at least response and he's like i'm not worried about. It isn't because what i'm most worried about his that the omar mohammed. And he's like even though there are no longer following what i but there's still some people that are still in there that are aware of it and he uses his line. Chief in order is one of those lines when you hear it in order. Do it gives you goosebumps. Zhol like he's like all hazard. Nfl cumbersome so but like i seek refuge like one hundred times from the the the irene or the constitution of the mba from one hundred times. I seek refuge lie because it gives women their rights in it gives them in their place in in this world right and so he says. I'm not worried about these places. 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A world without bail?

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A world without bail?

"A global pandemic protests across the country, a nationwide recession so far twenty twenty has felt like ten or fifteen years wrapped up in one and I. Think we should talk it all out I'm Sam Sanders. I, host NPR called. It's been a minute each week on my show. I have conversations with all kinds of people to make sense of the news and the culture without making you feel overwhelmed. Join, US every Tuesday and Friday listen and subscribe now. It's been a minute from NPR. I? It feels good like when you're first year the later summer anthem. And I to share it with your friends, who know your always first to everything well, here's a new I for you. Samsung Galaxy Five G., yes, five G. now on galaxy, helping you be one of the first on the five G., so you can be first to even more like streaming with virtually no Latin. Verse to Tell Your friends what show to watch? Yes, another I, they'll think galaxy five gene now available on Galaxy s twenty five G., and as seventy one five G. feels good to be I with Samsung five used vary, and require optical networking connection factors. Who'd frequency bandwidth congestion see carrier for availability. All over the United States, people are talking about police reform de-fund the police abolish the police, or in more cases at least change the police, broadly speaking or we're talking about here is criminal justice reform and a lot of ways. The police are the front lines of the criminal justice system. Then it's the court system, and then there's the prison system. All of this together makes up. Up the criminal justice system and the people who've been calling for criminal justice reform since long before the death of George Floyd are hoping that the Movement for Change. Right now isn't limited to the police. One example is calls for bail reform. The United States is one of only two countries in the world with a for profit bail system. It's US and the Philippines four Prophet. When you're arrested. You gotTA post bail if you WANNA. Wait for your trial from home. If you don't have the money, you or someone who loves you, A lot goes to a bail, bondsman and signs over their house or something valuable as collateral for a loan or you stay in jail with all the arrests of protesters in the past few weeks. There's been a ton more attention than usual paid to the bail system in the united. States take the Minnesota Freedom Fund. As an example, it's a bail fund that helps poor people who don't have the money. Get Out of jail after rest according to NPR. NPR The organization had about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars on hand in two thousand eighteen in the past few weeks. It has raised over thirty million dollars from something like nine hundred thousand individual donations, and that's just one bail fund. Millions of Americans have donated to these funds in the past few weeks and in doing so they're saying the system doesn't work. It needs to change. Adam Foss has been trying to change the bail system in America for a while the executive director of an organization called prosecutor impact and I'm currently in Los Angeles California. He started out on the other side of this issue. I got into the criminal justice system as a law student. I spent a summer as a law clerk for judge in Municipal Court in Boston, and that's really where my firsthand experience with our justice system started. I watched every single day is the issue of bail came up in people's lives and really didn't understand the impact that that decision was was making on people's lives, and it didn't really happen for me until I became prosecutor and was asking on my first day of work for people to go to jail I think about myself as a young lawyer thinking that I'm doing a good job doing this sort of perfunctory function of the criminal justice system that I that I literally learned on the job, and think of oftentimes back to those moments in court, and not really knowing what happened to those people. In their families and their lives, and the safety of the community, because the decisions that I was making the decisions he was making were largely influenced by a document drawn up in medieval England. Believe it or not, you may have heard of it. They call it the MAGNA Carta so you're talking about a document. From like eight hundred years ago, new needed collateral to make sure that people came to their quote, Unquote, court date. It was a vehicle to give the government or the monarchy on the ability to now that you would show up when you were called to do so, and that is how bail started in the British colonies, and then obviously it followed folks who left Green. Britain's come the United States to build colonies. They were just pulling. Bits and pieces of the justice system to start the justice system here and one of them was his concept of bail. So how does bail look in two thousand twenty compared to whenever the Magna Carta was signed like eight hundred years ago, Bill looks in operates in much the same fashion. I'm sure whatever was exchanged for collateral. In thirteenth century is no longer what is exchange for collateral here, but the function is the same I put something value I give it to the government or to the new institution that that obviously we have that they do not have then which was. The concept of a bail bondsman, if I don't come to court the government and or the bail bondsman absorbs that collateral that I've given them and I'm now considered a fugitive or in the alternative. If I may call court dates, and my case resolves I. Get that collateral back. In So, you worked inside this system. How exactly is is the price of bail? In the modern criminal justice system set bail was set typically twice. There is a person or persons and lots of communities called bail commissioner, who is the person who usually comes in at the time that you are arrested in sets bail, and so if you're arrested overnight in the courts are not open in most communities across the United States. A person who is affiliated with court will come and look at your paperwork and set an original bell. If you cannot make bail. You'll be brought to court and in in the morning you'll, you'll have a new bail hearing and again. This is a very general overview of of how bill works. It's different and lots of communities. That bell determination the next day is made by two actors in the system. The prosecutor and the judge who ultimately sets bail the prosecutors, recommending a bail amount to the judge based on typically the charge or charges at the person is facing and then charges. They've had in the past and whether or not they've failed to appear in court before. The prosecutor will request the judge of an amount and the judge will hear from. The person's been accused their lawyer and we'll make a decision about how much if any to set and of course. What happens if you can't make bail if you can't make bill, a judge sets a bail of five hundred dollars, and for a lot of people that has a month's worth of rent and necessities. And if they can't make bail for their loved one, their loved one then is taken into custody of the state, and we'll stay in jail and pretrial detention day until their cases resolved. In May of two thousand ten sixteen year, Old Khalif Browder was walking home from a party in the Bronx when he was stopped by the police arrested for robbery. They said we're going to take it to the present and most likely. We're going to let you go home and then. I never went home cliff browder. Who was in rikers? For the IT backpack was there for almost three years. The evidence that they supposedly had on me. which was the door saying that Rodney statement and I told him I didn't do this I. Don't know how I'm here. He said he's going to work on the case, but I don I. gave up hope for Khalif. Someone who is very young who is struggling with mental health. In a place that is terrible from. he was brutalized. He was victimized. was held in solitary confinement for. Several months of confinement. I spent three New Year's eight four my birthdays I I spent a lot of holidays in his case was ultimately dismissed. Truly after he was released, he took his own life Khalif. Browder committed suicide, hanging himself out a window of his mother's home. His family is now suing the New York Department of Corrections. I want them. To be responsible to admit. That is was there for that? My son is dead. He spent three years in Hell And, so that is an outlier. People held on pretrial detention on average in this country for twenty three days, but when I say allied one of make it sound like it's rare. People are held. FOR MONTHS SOMETIMES YEARS ON PRETRIAL DETENTION But we get lost in those stories. These really draconian length of time that stand because what we know is like three days can be really disruptive and damaging to life of people who? Find themselves in snared the justice system. How many Americans are in jail right now? Because they can't make bail doing now on any given night, we estimate that there are around seven hundred thousand people sitting in pretrial detention jails around the country. And I guess we should make the distinction here that these aren't like seven hundred thousand people who are broadly representative of the United States or even people who interact with the criminal justice system, these are seven hundred thousand of the poorest people who interact with the criminal justice system. Right? Yeah, I think what is also important to recognize about those hundred thousand people. Is that under our Constitution? They're innocent. What is life like for these seven hundred thousand Americans I, mean what's going on in their lives, while they can't post whatever it may be a five hundred dollar, a thousand dollars bail. What's going on in their lives? Is What's going on in everybody else's lives? Except when you're living on the margins, those things are much more unstable, much more acute, and you're sort of just living in a constant state of little fires. They're working hourly wage jobs, and if they don't show up there replaced if you are if you are being held. Around the first or the fifteenth of the month and the Renan's do I might feel empowered as a young person to reach out to my landlord and as I, did often when I was that age and say hey. I'm going to be a little late on rent this month, but when you are living on the margins and you were living in public housing. have that privilege, and so you could lose your home when you have bills that are due. And your credit has already taken a hit because of the challenges that you have in your life, and those bills come due, and you're in jail where I might have as a privileged person just avoided the phone from the creditors and paid bills when I, when I had the ability to do so folks who again are living on the margins, don't have that privilege, and so oftentimes we'll come back to repossessed car or worse, and so the incarceration that they are. Enduring during during the life of their case is actually making us less safe because it's removing lots of factors that keep people stable in their lives and therefore safe. The. Bail system creates a two tiered criminal justice system one for the wealthy people in one for. Anyone who's not wealthy and we often focus on how unfair it is that Paul Manafort or Harvey Weinstein or or Brock Turner? Any of these folks had the means to post bail and get out, but that's that's what we want. We want the system to allow for people to pay what they can so that they can get out and it doesn't work that way We don't have an equal dispensation. Dispensation of law, and therefore it creates a lot of distrust and cynicism when it comes to our justice system I imagine when some people here you say that they think but what if someone gets out and commits another crime? How often do people on either of these two tiers? Get out on bail and then commit another crime, but question is kind of irrelevant because there was never intended as a safety mechanism. Bail was intended to ensure that someone comes back to corn. People fail to return to court, but again there are a myriad reasons that federal court that have nothing to do with them like fleeing absconding. How to reform bail in the United States. This is essential talks. A podcast that is all about breaking barriers to wellbeing I think I may be a thought on my period, shedding light on stigmas, and finding out how we can counter them. If you can make some good laugh about something, then talk about an. If you get them talking about things, then you can nudge them into to get some help for. With people from all around the world who have experienced these types of statements that I'm just shocked at how difficult it still seems to manage my period I would like to see the conversation, normal and experts about subjects, such as incontinent hand, hygiene and menstruation parents are more and more concerned about children being safe in school we might have made a breakthrough. And how has cove in nineteen changed perception and behaviors around health and hygiene? It's very impressive. It's really cool to see how dedicated people can be. This was a new one for us. When we will be put into a situation, we will adapt to that I'm Tom Henley, and this is essential to brought to you by Esotique. I, it feels good like when you first get your hands on the latest sneaker drop. Yes, well, here's a new I for you. Samsung Galaxy Five G., yes, five G. now and galaxy, helping you be one of the first on five G., so you can be I even more like being the first of your friends to pose donate K with the first eight K. on dachshund. Video of your new kicks. Thinking man. I really looks good. Like really good galaxy, five G. now available on Galaxy. Two twenty five G. feels good to be I with Samson five youth beads, very and require optimal network connection factors include frequency bandwidth congestion. See carrier for a ability. Adam I think anyone can look at the story. Of course browder and say quite plainly the system is broken. It either doesn't work as it was designed, or it was designed in a totally unjust unfair way. I guess that's why we bail funds to to address that imbalance, but what we do without bail. How do you ensure people come back for their court dates particularly with the bell funds, but other nonprofits that have popped up around the country that that hold themselves out to be pretrial services nonprofits. They do things like text people reminders of their court dates. Scheduled child care for them. Help them with their employers so that their employer's other don't find out about or are happy to have their folks make their court dates. Remove all of the barriers that are for the most part keeping people from coming in court. There are going to be the people. who flee the country or or or or go somewhere where we? We can't find them? But those people are so few to hold up an entire institution that we know causes all his damage. To catch. Those few is is a silly way to go about things from how many bill funds of and seeing people sharing online I'm guessing there hasn't been a lot of bail. Abolition in the country. Has Anyone had luck with reform? So the places that sort of stick out in OUR NEW YORK? New Jersey and California. In California, the state departed from its relationship with bonds. Transferred the power of sort of decision making around bail to. Judicial Council bail advocates I would say have reasonable disagreement whether or not that was a good thing, because of was just sort of like moving the doctors around the titanic new. Jersey is a bit of a bit of a happier story. Although it's not perfect, they've abolished cash bail. They've moved to a preventative detention model that places are really high burden on, and basically the prosecutors to show that the person who is accused of a crime can't be out because they pose some specific risk of danger. As a result, you've seen pretrial detention plummet in those places, and there was not sort of like the commensurate raise and crime that the bail bonds or the police departments where warning people about my proposal. Last year was no cash bail period. Period New York. Last year. Had A lot of successful legislation around bail and people really excited about New York's move on bail. And as soon as it was sort of codified the government in the legislature turn right around and rolled back a lot of the bail reform that had the advocates had tried on changing the system, which we started to do is complicated, and then has a number of ramifications. There's no doubt this is still a work in progress, and there are other changes that have to be made. There was never really the appetite for Beller reform. anyways outside of maybe this city, so New York is an interesting place because we think of it as representative of of the city of New York. But we forget about the rest of the state which looks very very different and that's. Who controls the Legislature Buffalo Common Council members Chris Scanlon Joe Fair a little say a number of people in their districts are now worried about their safety when people see news stories about someone driving without driver's license, striking someone and killing them, and that person walking the next day with not even the possibility of bail is very concerning to a lot of people who's out there fighting to keep bail just the way it is, so there are a few few bodies. One is the. The uninformed general public who understands bail to name it keeps them safe from the bad people who were arrested people who post bail and go out and do something bad there. They come up once in a while, and so those are really focused on by the sheriff's unions and police unions. Some people would argue that sheriffs have a vested interest in keeping their jails fall. Their budgets rely on how many people are inside of their jails, and so they have a financial motive. And then the most direct. Profit motive is in bail bondsman. You pay them a percentage of your bail. They will put your bail up if you fail to return. They keep the money that you paid them. If you return they, they give you back some of the money keeping a percentage for themselves and you know I've seen up to thirty percent in some places. They're typically somewhere around. Five to ten percent, but there are egregious examples all over the place. Are Bail bondsman a persuasive political force, or is it you know their interests coupled with say the interest of police unions and and sheriff's unions, and even you know prisons in jails themselves that make this sort of more compelling for politicians. They are a tremendous lobbying force as a singular institution because of sort of like their diffusion in the population. Just if you're GONNA any jail. Where where there are Pale bondsman, and you just walk around the neighborhood where the J.LO's. You'll see them everywhere. How is that going to change? Do you feel? Like this is a moment or do you feel like the moments still to come I feel like this is a moment but again we've had plenty of moments where we get ourselves. All worked up and then something happens, and we chase that bright and shiny thing. I don't know one people will feel. The Need To. Change the system. Lots of people are responsive to moments. Lots of people kind of get it because they have watched something or they've heard something that strikes them, but the people who are doing. Bail reform work people who are doing. Police Accountability where the people who are doing prosecutor reform, most of the people who are on the front lines doing it because they've they've been harmed by these systems, personally or professionally or both and most in the United States America has a privileged never to have been harmed by any of these systems, and so I'm I'm skeptical of when that moment will come that people will actually feel that direct pain of the criminal justice system. It is foolish what we doing. It's bearing what we are doing. We should all be embarrassed. There's only so long that we can beat ourselves. Muchas talk about how great we are only look around. The entire world is protesting and looking at us and saying do something about it. Adam foster runs a not for profit called prosecutor impact. It's an organization that tackles criminal justice reform starting with prosecutors. I'm Sean Romans Firm. This is today explained. I. 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PlayStation 5 Event Delayed - Kinda Funny Games Daily 06.02.20

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PlayStation 5 Event Delayed - Kinda Funny Games Daily 06.02.20

"Yeah. What's up, welcomed the kind of funny games daily for Tuesday June second twenty twenty I'm when your host blessing Addio, eight union joining me is the button on. Me's Khalif Adams cleave. Thanks for joining me man. I tell you on a trip. You tired. I hope you are doing very very well today. Hope that you were getting some rest. Feeling quite blessed today to be rocking with you as usual associated I'm feeling quite blessed to have you here with. The one question I WANNA! Start off with. Though because there's there's been a there's been there have been things happen. There have been there have been. Conflicts going on there have been protests. Everybody wants to know what's up with the wings or not the wings. What's up with the ribs oven ribs? Ali's. That came up yesterday with Paris and Paris is talking about how terrible your your ribs are rig. Was Defending your your ribs. I wonder what the deal is, so so there's been this this debate about whether. You shook your ribs in an oven or on a grill so Paris and I. Could massive shout have a mess out. It's everything Gamertag radio does we had? We are having a long standing feud about whose ribs are better. Sadly enough I had to take my pin tweeted. I had a pair for at least over a year at this point, describing his burnt terrible charred unreasonable. Irradiated ribs that he makes on his grill. In comparison, my beautiful, succulent this magical. Perfectly, cooked ribs that count an oven. We've been having phobe literally for. Years. Now about all that kind of stuff, but now we're trying to figure out a way to get it sponsored, so we can actually do a real cook off say, have you guys done this? Yeah, have you guys done in Actual Zero Cook off? No, we haven't had a chance to. We're always seeing each other at events, but we never get a chance to. To like actually like actually do a thing thing like one of those kinds of events because it's just never enough time to do it, but like hey, we're looking for people to sponsor it like. If you know a company that can sponsor cook off. We're down to do it. We've been talking about that for a long time, so yeah, a better thanks. The activation mark southbound. If you're listening to this show sponsor, want to see this happen if that if you want to you, I don't know if I have the authority to do this by my do it anyway. Call Eve. I will invite both pairs to the kind of funny studio. That new studio when. You'll have cook off I. Know We already have like macaroni, macaroni and cheese competition between Sony executives schedule. We'll have you guys on the same day. Get some ribs gets back. She'll be a great time. Oh, I'm pulling. Ribs succeed ribs are ribs are actually pretty good. They should go get that char right at the end now. That's what you botch it because then use a big wet rib. Blowtorch, it? Are you serious I'm serious. That's bad ass. Jeff stuff right there. That's. A rock with that. If we have at the competition might have to enter my seaweed ribs. Own. We can get as many people as we need to make this happen in the more people. That s more visibility, so we gotta make it happen and we can do it. Holly explain to us what is spot on me for the people that don't know? Me We started. Back in twenty fourteen, it was myself in cicero homes. WHO's now over rivals of water? Please go check that out. If you love dnd, and we got together one day I was writing for my site called. This won't blog back in the day. And you know. He came aboard and said Hey you know I'd love to write for you. We started that process and then a couple of years later once the block folded. We kind of had a sit down conversation and said you know what's the space need right now. We talked about doing a podcast as we'd love podcast like became confirmed and one up show in all those things that came before us. and Said No. There's a space here for a black voice, a voices to be shared. And then we kinda started the work of of of building out the case for why you should be listening to black folks talk about games and. Spotlighting people of Color in the in the gaming space, and that's been the mantra and kind of the Northstar for us for a long time. And and making sure that that was part of the conversations within the Games because it weren't really a lot of people talking about James from black perspective through a black prison, so. You made that happen in the six years later. Swami is still going pretty strong and in Iraq it out. Yeah, going really strong like we're talking about this yesterday. Both me in Paris were on bottom me last week talking about all this stuff that's going on the world and a very excellent episode of the podcast that people have been sharing more and more of the. People share it this morning. highly recommend everybody. Go go check it out. Twist to be sliced. Bonami spun me on Podcast, platforms. Do you. WanNa talk about that episode to kind of get people the premise of what they make an experiment. Yeah, absolutely. We do our show usually on Thursday evenings. Everything that had happened prior in that week from Monday on from a Cooper to George, floyd to those too young, a young. Exactly, kind of working in their. Offices Jim and then getting called out for it from from a white person who lived in the building. And he had all these feeling bubbling. Listen talk about kind of normal video game stuff. We're in maybe DAB into. Into that conversation about what was happening in the world and I was like I. Don't know if I can have this conversation alone today, or if it feels right to have that conversation alone today. And I snagged folks Snag Paris. Kills our friend Cam Hawkins the people's Champ. From dual shockers and then pitcher leader, who's one of my favorite streamers and said Hey I put out the the the black flag if you to say. And Focus. Like like yeah, no doubt. People reach out and said Hey. I want be a part of the show and want to have a half things on my mind on that I wanted to talk about in for an hour and some change we got some really great perspective that only just on being black, in America, but being a black content creator in America. You know kind of hot spaces. Failing black creators in terms of the gaming, space. N, just of course, the conversations around George Florida in police, brutality and white supremacy in all those things racism. And it was fantastic, because again like I think for who don't know the work that we do specifically you know we talk about games as a general conversation, but we have found good ways and have made sure that we continue to have conversations about real stuff that's happening in the world to see other creators have those same feelings and be able to share those things in feel like they had a safe space to do so. That's what the show was about like. We get a chance to do that stuff every week. besides the game parts that we talk about so. It makes very special in that way, it makes episode extremely special, and it makes me really happy to see people inside and outside of the black community sharing that in a real way especially during this week. So, yeah, it was. It was a fantastic episode I'm extremely proud of that. This is a question. I asked Pairs yesterday I. Want to ask you the same question. How's the last week been for you because I know for me like? Of course this week is has had its ups and downs right like you know nobody. Everybody's affected when death especially on a injustice right unjustified death like that a murder if he will like that-that, never really an easy thing to take in this this last week, especially seeing the the reaction to it, and saying I know for me, seeing people will come out in support and people donate and people being vocal, probably more so than ever before as far as you know, as I paid attention to it like that's really kind of kind of brought. That's added some highest. Made this week. Such a roller coaster of emotions rollercoaster of how feeling about everything right now so for you. How'd you say the last week has been? Who? It's been a lot of different emotions. Sadly. Forty one now I'll be forty two this August, the the amount of black death that I've seen over my forty one years is unreasonable. In terms of the amounts of of just death in general seeing people who look like me die in public spaces has been a part of my life or seeing us be abused or hurt or you know a beat up on by the state by the people by all those things has sadly been part of my existence in that to innovate self reflecting on that. On a consistent basis is the thing that I that I thought about a lot this week. I remember talking to my wife about this I was like what was the first time. I saw or heard about you know someone black being hurt in that way and I was like. Oh, it was like I. was eleven and I was thinking about Yusef Hawkins back in eighty nine. And then you have all the other folks after that. You know the folks here about an folks that we don't hear about and I think that in in terms of this week it's been a really up and down week where I'm really excited that people have found the show. I'm really excited that people are attached to this conversation at such a pivotal time I'm happy that I'm seeing a lot of white allies finally put up. The black lives matter flag and put up their fist in the way that we've hoped that they would want to do for now. But it is also this weird space where for all this wonderful credit that we're getting for this show. It feels like a lot of the ally. Ship has been a little bit late to be honest, and that's fine. You never know when people are going to get on board with things, but I'm happy that they're here, but it's also. Like, where were you? This these were this. Yeah, this isn't new. You know what I mean like we're. We're we're. We're all of these. You know black black messages I mean white letters on black on black panels. Messages! You know four years ago two years ago a year ago. You know saying it wasn't that long ago for Landau Casteel wasn't that long ago like these people that we hear about? And I guess that to me has been the thing that I've been struggling with has been that balanced between wanting to make sure that people. Are are in the fight with us, but also saying hey, I want to hold your feet to the fire to make sure that this isn't the first and last time you do this. Because this, going to be more of these killings is going to be more of these deaths is GonNa Happen? Sadly, what are you going to do that? Is it going to be continuing to do this? Are you gonNA continue to share all black voices, not just this week, but for the rest of the time that you have your platform like those are the things I. Actually Care about so it's been. It's been up and down week. It's been busy been. been lots of different conversations from random people in my DM's who've been sad and been worried and all that stuff, so so a lot of emotional stuff to carry, but I'm. That's kind of what I'm doing for a long time, so yeah I echo all that it's been such an interesting things in so many people planning to my DM's or hit me up on texts as I'm doing him I'll do I i. don't know how to answer that because. For me, it's been one of those things were like I'm heartbroken over the events of the last week of the past few weeks. When you factor in Amy Cooper in different things I've been going on there but also yeah. This is the thing that's been happening forever. This is the thing that's not necessarily new right like this is a this was an instance that was recorded and put out there, and for all of us to see, but even with even with that scenario it's not the first one of those like the record. The recording recorded instances of black murder had been a thing. Forever like? especially with the last ten years with like. As we all have have cameras on US and Become more normalized thing to be able to record. What's going on right like? We been able to see him more and more, which is why it is coming to a boiling point more and more, but yeah like you. You say the first time you remember you remember seeing you know something like that like a like death in that way was eleven I remember in high school when I was I. WanNa, say like. Fourteen thirteen fourteen I. Remember there was somebody. My High School got a shot shot and murdered by police because they're are trying to get into their own home because. It was like it was a kid who was trying to essentially like get into the windows own house because he lost the key or something like that and ended up getting murdered by police because they thought their breaking into a house. That wasn't there's. It's like this is the thing that's been going on forever. And, so like whatever the question comes up of you know. How am I? How am I doing right now? I'm like well. I'm not the one who's like. Being murdered in this moment, right like I'm not the one who was shot I'm not the one who's like going through that thing as far as like all as far as like. Black Murder General that has been a thing that has been like. Ever present and I'm so glad that people are speaking out now and I'm so glad that people are being vocal about it, but yeah, it's just one of those things where this week has been such. A roller coaster seem social media the pro testing seeing the riots seeing everything's going. It's been such a roller coaster. Crazy thing you say that you talked about that incident and I had to go through the mental rolodex. It'd be like which one of those because I remember multiple ones. Yeah, so that's crazy. That would be unique. One thousand one happens specifically in my town. My High School and that didn't make national news or anything that was his main like a local thing, and now I was like Oh shit, and then from there I started to. Be, more aware like you have. 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Bill, tell you about that later. For now lets what is forever will be. The rope reports the. Time. We have the horror stories today. Starting with our number one Khalif. They did it this week. He has five of it has been postponed. Pointing this from at playstation on twitter. They tweeted this yesterday. Radford Games daily which made things real awkward because our conversation on. This is what they tweeted. They tweeden said again this playstation. Well. We've decided to postpone. The PS five events scheduled for June fourth while you understand, gamers worldwide are excited to CPS five games. We do not feel right. Now is the time for celebration for now we want to stand back. Allow for more important voices to be heard. TWEET! Cod this is A. This is a conversation that we had on Games Daley yesterday. 'cause somebody wrote in Hey like the PS fiving is happening later this week. Do you guys think they will slash? Should postponement and me in Paris the conversation of like? Not Not really like it I don't do. I was coming at it from place of like. You know I think a lot of people were kind of looking for that thing to look forward to in terms of something can be excited about. This like. Escape. The wrong word because I don't necessarily feel like they. They're able to escape going on right now, but like they're you know people people can use an uplifting factor, and so like the impairs the conversation conversation of like one. We don't necessarily think they should postpone it, but also I didn't think they would like. I didn't I didn't think that'd be in the cards given how crazy things have been? Overall right like with Cova did. With three canceled with Jesse canceled. You kind of see playstation kind of shuffling around in terms of where to announce things. After? They announced yesterday. Postponing? It was one of those things where I thought about the second like. Okay that's a good decision like that's a good thing. Right especially, especially in the way that they phrased it in their in their tweet. Right here right where they're talking about. We don't feel right. Now is the time for celebration. We have to stand back and allow more important voices to be heard. I think that is the perfect statement right there as are as like. What this meant to do right like I'm sure. They probably could get away with with with storing off ps five later this week, but looking around especially looking around today and seeing how things are, things are progressing, and people are still being more vocal than ever I think overall this is, this is the right decision. Disappointed as from gaming standpoint, because this is the thing I've been hoping for for a long time been waiting to see how they're gonNa Kinda get into the fray and have their say about what their next Gen consoles gonNA wind up being. Of I was looking forward to that distraction. And I needed it really bad this week like it was the thing that was going to. Chop up all this yuckiness. That's happening in grossness in the world to be with a give me and other folks once this something else to talk about because you know, it's hard things of like especially when things like this happen in such a grand scale. You Wind Up. Kind of people want to reaching out to you and wanting to know your opinion about a thing and sometimes you don't WanNa talk about it like I. Don't WanNa talk about the protests I. Don't want to talk about all the stuff right now, and this was going to be able to give people a way to get away from that for at least a couple of hours. But in the grand scheme like it's a, it's a good look like it's a better look. Than the initial tweet, they put out kind of around black lives, matter and stuff, which was okay. It was alright it was lukewarm for. The for the initial tweet Abbey here initial tweet reads. We denounce systemic racism in violence against the black community, we will continue to work towards a future marked by empathy inclusion stand with our black creators, players, employees, families, and friends Hashtag black lives matter, and that's from playstation twitter, which is like a pretty decent statement. I think for me when I look at brand statements. I'm always just like all right, but what's what's the action? What is the sacrifices is very easy to say things in for me like I look at I. Look at them moving the event as more of an action, but like it's also one of those things where I'm sure you factor in marketing you factor in like. Can we do? We really want to have the place? He's playstation five event this week with all this is happening. I'm sure I'm sure at A. Certain point that kind of comes back to bite them in the ASS. When there's so many, there's so much noise and so much other things to focus on. You're trying to be like when you when you are trying to come out and install a new console. I'm sure that makes things hard in a way. Where if you just delay it to next week or the week after next week is probably easier to have that moment. I mean I mean think about this because we've seen it happen so many often. Often when brands get a thing wrong, white real I totally see somebody doing marketing montage of some burned down. You know building or some? post post apocalyptic seen in a game, and then people being like really Sony really playstation. This is the time you're gonna put that thing outside like it's a good way to save your own ass for sure. But it's also again like they are reading the room in the correct way right now, and that's and that's smart like. A business perspective. That's a smart thing to do We'll see the conversations of that what it looks like in terms of their actual statement, one of the things. I tweeted directly right after that. tweeted that thing was like. Yeah, you care a lot about all these black rates unless you should get more black folks in the gaming space, some more access. So that was. Again like what are you going to do? For me at this point like you can say all the things apply to agree. What are you GonNa? Do going forward. is always the kind of thing, but they put up the statement that you at the time. Scott writes in two Patriot dot com slash Kinda Funny Games was like you can't says greetings, blessing, and Khalif, so Sony understandably canceled the PS five event this week. Abba couple of questions should EA and CD product red canceled their events next week also as black voices in the gaming community when you feel comfortable with with Sony doing their event I, realized you don't speak for everyone, but the gaming community should be listening to folks like you. This situation is not changing anytime soon. So disowning, not reveal the PS five until August. Thanks for being great voices during this difficult time. That's a good question I mean. I think there isn't i. don't know when the right time is going to be for them. In terms of those state of the world like it really is going to depend on how the state of the world works. We just had basically martial law down overnight. In who knows how long protests going to wind up happening? Who knows if another incident is going to respond thing, and then you still have covid in the space? That's still. In of all this stuff. So to a certain extent. I think. From a from a business perspective, Sony needs to say something though the thing that has been interesting has that they take so long to get here. To start showing showcasing some of this stuff and I'm sure now they're kinda kicking themselves into a little bit because they had a better window to be able to get more information. And now they're going to be stifled a little bit and kind of have to push things back even further in terms of their terms of their time line so I would say you know. It makes sense for them to held their event. This time should ANC CPR do that yet probably. The united effort makes makes more sense to try to be the ones who our outliers in that. Actually gained from it, because we already know the game that you're gonNA be drop in any way for the most part so we'll see I think all those things will be bundled in whenever they wind up. Do Show when they wind up showing the console anyway, so we'll see. I think they just got to keep their ear to the ground and see like where things go, because I think they could get away with. Showing with with doing the event. Let's say next week. If things are calm by next week, right like if like I like feeling. What's going on right now? In terms of the protests and in terms of the conversation in terms of everything kind of blowing up right now. That's GonNa Continue but I think it's figuring out like all right. When when is it appropriate like right now? Things are kind of at the point where we're where things are still blowing up right like things are still at the height of of tension right now in terms of the. In terms of the world in in the protests that are happening I think if you come back either next week and the week after and look around in you know. The conversation has progress no way to where. It doesn't feel uncomfortable to to put out an event like that I think they'll go for it I think I think along with that? Another factor that comes into play is the fact that they're in the middle of advertising last as part two and goes to Shema and so like I. Don't think they would want to do the PS five event the same week that the last was launches, and you have like reviews and all that stuff. Go Up for it. reviews I. Believe are going up. June twelfth right? which is next Friday. And then the game launches June nineteenth, which is to Friday for now which puts them in an interesting place because you imagine that yeah like being the B- to do the PS five event on. Thursday would have allowed them to have this week. Be about PS five next week. Be about last. Reviews, the remarkable going up and then the week after being about the actually lead up to launching the last part to. Interesting place now where in the more on the marketing side of things and on the advertising side of things you want everything to have its own moment. And at this point, they might have to be in a place. Where the PS five pushes up. Either the last was reviews or The last was launch like I. think that's the reason. Why didn't say and. I think there's reasons why they didn't say like Oh. We're pushing the next week right? One is because he's still got to figure out how. I'm sure they're still figuring out. Where things are gonNA fall exactly, but then also like yeah like there's. You kind of got away. You kinda gotta wait and see on quite a few of these things I think with the last of us. They have like a very interesting interesting space to kind of navigate. I think the only way you can do that. Is If you showcase? You've got to do two things yet to showcase what the game looks like on a five. And message out that this is going to be a transitional game where you say okay. If you bought this thing on, PS, four which we want you to do, it's coming out in a week or to know that when you buy your ps five. This is what it's going to look like in. You don't have to do anything else. You just have that game when you when you have your new system. I think that's the. The thing that would give people a lot of excitement, and then talks about your roadmap about how you want to deal with the transitional games from PS four to five that are going to be wanting to cross gender anyway so good space that they can do that. Work is just a matter of if they detect. It's actually going to do that work, and also you know. How closely do they want to tie those things together? And as far as like E, ANC READ I forget exactly when he plays supposed to be. Yes, I mean we know what we're GONNA get to like. We need to exist anymore. He doesn't need to be a thing to be honest like that. We know we're going to get a maddened. We know we're GONNA get a fever. Get. Battlefield six I. Think is going to be the next one out. I want to see what battlefield sixers and that's all I care about right now is like show me that and then that's all you need to do. You play is twenty minutes long and that's. That's it I mean. Everybody's and everybody's dying this. More cyberpunk stuff to a certain Yeah Brian. Anti I believe this hour, puck vantage June eleventh. Which I, mean I think that those are also two events where they put their you to the ground, and just wait and be like all right this weekend. Let's see where things are like this Friday. Let's see we're we're. We're things are at and if if if people are still speaking loudly if if all this going on then, yeah, let's let's Pontus like we don't need this right now. like even to to transition actually into the next news story, right? We're speaking of delays. RIGHT STORY NUMBER TO CALL DUTY is delaying their new seasons in their game. to to grant context is from Adam bankers at Aegean. Call Duty, modern warfare, warzone and collar duty mobile's upcoming season's have been delayed response to the ongoing worldwide protests following the death of George Lloyd. Twitter. Account tweeted that that is not the time and that it would be moving the launches of warfare season four. Duty Call Judy, mobile season seven to later dates right now it's time for those speaking up for for Equality Justice and change to be seen and heard. We stand alongside you then the. Continues to say there's no indication as to the dates for these new seasons, but called Judy Martin Warfare Four. Season is set to launch on June third while Judy Mobile's also set for for this week. Right and those are two things as far as the call of duty seasons right like those are things that were imminent. Those are things that are happening right now. Right and those those got delayed. And, so like I think right now is the time for when you're talking about yoga companies in in in the time that we're in, we're in early June, which is announcement season? It is what would have been three. Season is the time where everybody everybody wants to talk at a certain point this month like Microsoft is doing their event, there's so much that needs to happen, but not necessarily needs to happen that that is planned to happen this month. Month and I think really like the big thing for companies right now is being flexible in and paying attention and going with the flow and figuring out. When is the right time to strike with these things? Yeah, I, mean you lose more by putting thing AO early and not reading the room correctly. Then you then have to go back into all the damage control than just waiting like you don't lose anything by waiting anything again with all known entities like. What announcement you really going to get from a new season besides a new operator or a new a new person ends a new map. You know what I mean like. There isn't a lot of actual information there. That is that important compared to the conversations that they're having about of the world. I think it's GonNa be. Interesting to see who the first company is that bucks that trend, and what the feedback in probably blowback is GONNA wind up being to the companies that do that thing. I'm wondering again. Like what's the right time because you won't know unless you're again reading the room and trying to figure out like how well you're paying attention to the communities that are asking you not to do a thing, which companies haven't really done well. For a long time, so there'd be. A good learning experience for a lot of folks involved with some of these organizations PR parts in their their messaging outlets. Have you seen some of the responses in the comments and stuff to both these delays being like Sony delay? delay is of course income. What's your take on on that because there's so much? Betrayal and I know this is like A. Video Game Community thing in general. I know there's there's so many talks like. There's there's a lot fees into it right, but there's a lot of toxic toxicity in terms of the Internet in general, but then also like video games out of the Internet. And, also like I'm sure there's like a lot of kids and teenagers are involved in there to you, but also there's a lot of adults which makes it upsetting like what is what is your take on all that because it's for some reason? I shouldn't be surprised, but it still surprises me when I look at the replies. Fuck. Here's the thing though, right? It's like it's and it's perfect because it's the same conversation that we have about all this stuff all the time again right now right now as we speak, there are people who got beat up last night protesting people being shot and killed by the state. And then two weeks prior to that you had people protesting in the streets to go get a haircut and go to a restaurant. It's the same conversation. It's the same kinds of people, the same kinds of dumb shit all the time where it's just like I am more important than the greater good I more important and all these other things, if you see as being actually important and folks have been like all is mattering it. I've seen over the time that I've been playing college. Other games like people from before. even when Kobe hit as a a numerous amount of people went out to go play. multiplayer games had covert tags their names. It changed the names. The covert related things s a one person. I had a one of one of my favorite causing. Creators Barefoot Gypsy. Posted a video of herself. Being in her chat on twitch, and someone made an account that was called George Floyd's neck. For the sake of doing it just because they knew would piss black people off. So it's like those are the things that we constantly see. It's a culture thing. It's a part of the gaming culture and part of human nature to be able to find the most vile way to interact with a thing. Go through the process of doing the work to make those accounts to make that email address that Bernard email address, and you all the stuff that goes along with that one thing, so you can get shits and giggles out of making someone else hurt. So that's a part of the conversation, right, it's like how do we continue to? As a gaming collective as a gaming community as a as a human society figure out better ways to weed out. Those people into make sure that those people don't have a space to have. Platforms. Have the ability to do what they need to do through. The platforms and their moderation systems and all those things. You need good tools to block people out from that of stuff, but it's also. How do you fix? Humans? Man like humans are hard like humans. Do Shit all the time, and that's the thing that will never forget. Do you think there is a way we to? You mentioned moderation tools, obviously like we don't have all the answers to. Because yeah, like what you're saying. It is human nature a lot of. Human humans are just difficult, but are there ways that for you for spot on me that you go about weeding out those bad actors? Yeah? It's. It's really evident when we do spun for good events so we do a charity event every Martin. Luther King weekend. And we go to a really long process of. Maybe gotten better because we've done over a couple of years. Plug play basic of this point, but lots of block lists. Really believe in blacklist. That's not true blocked word lists A really important because you know what most people are gonNA. Say So. That's the interesting thing about racism is like. If you've gone through it enough, you know all the words you know all the phrases, so you already know. Nothing really surprises you at this point, so you already know can pre do the work? So? That's one thing. Having, having lots of moderators in your in your spaces, only chapman in your in your twitter fee to like you have good circles, and you curated a good list. Most of that stuff doesn't want him coming your way. Ending depends on some of the some of the stuff depends on how you engage with the Internet to You know I I rarely get as much vitriol and hatred and stuff that my black women counterparts than my. Counterparts and that's not because anything that they've ever done. And it's not because of anything in any way that they've interacted with people, but it's like the folks who have been hatred who have been heading towards them always going to be there. I have a figure out a way to deflect some of that. Stuff's through the work that I do, but also through Mike of the people. I have around me which has been really really helpful for a long period of time, so I'd say you know. You can do some of that work depending upon where you are. That's a privilege that I have and I'm willing to to put that out there for sure. But you have to do that work for other people to like. Don't share. Don't share stupid. Is the thing I believe in all the time I fall I'm faulty of it like I do it sometimes in this bad. But like sharing things that trigger people into their fees, and into the timelines doesn't help them either. So it's a lot of small things that you can do to to help build that stuff up in good ways. You can kind of insulate yourself from some of it, but the Internet is the Internet. People don't care like people just. And people are and people suck in that way, but people also fantastic Greek so balance. Speaking of people being fantastic, fantastic INGRATES, story number three, the last part two has around sixty different accessibility features. From Rebecca, Valentine at Games interesting is the last part T. which launches this month includes around sixty different accessibility features according to developer, naughty dog in interviews with the Verge Game Designers Amelia Scots and Matthew Gallant outlines some keys. Accessibility features their development and the reason behind their inclusion. These features canvas controller mapping, visual AIDS audio, clues, navigation, and traverse will features, and combat features the they include the ability to increase the size of the I make changes to subtitles. Turn on text to speech option for every every piece of text in the game including news audio cues to indicate nearby items or legends, a zoom feature, using the dual shock controller, touch pad, and a high contrast mill for low vision players that renders the world alight gray with enemies and red and allies in bloom. Gallant said that these features had been planned from the start of development, and that some such as high contrast mode Texas speech in Maple. Controls had required significant technical resources. The features have undergone significant changes throughout development with the assistance of focuses in inaccessibility advocates such as Brandon Cole advising on implementation for example now you talk initially planned to have game modes separated out for users with different accessibility needs such as one for hearing impaired players, and another for those for those who needed motor control assistance quote instantly. We got feedback that that is not what we wanted. Gallon said quote. We want to be able to dig into menu. Menu fine tune things adjust things really get into the nitty gritty of what these options mean. End Up as a result, the final game includes a pack accessibility menu with PA goals in sliders for each feature. Though there are, there are also some preset categories such as vision hearing to give players a place to start if they feel overwhelmed quote, accessibility for us is is accessibility for us is about removing barriers that are keeping players from completing a game. Scott said. It's not about dumbing down a game or making a game easy. What do our players in order to play the game in parody with everyone, else and quote? This pretty cool. This is pretty awesome. This is fantastic. Shut to Rebecca for one because she's amazing as as writer. Absolutely she's fantastic shots. Folks for like able Gamers to who I'd love, and and represent all the time who have been striving in helping people like naughty dog and other companies do this work for for so many years now it's it's amazingly important. Just e would have those. For other people who suffer disabilities in and go through what they go through, and so being able to have that stuff just baked into the system I'm hoping that the tools that they are putting into glass of us in in Games like this that they continue to share that stuff out with other developers. I think that's the thing that I would hope. Camale something like this is like. Don't share it I. Mean don't don't horde that stuff to yourself like. Make sure that that's the thing that goes across. You know all that we see. That's part of why that's part of why it kind of sucks. It's hard to white sucks that GDP was canceled like I know. That is a place where you have a lot of talk like that and you have a lot of. Like that like this is very unrelated, but kinda related I know mortal combat eleven. Actually both will come already know where I'm about to go, but there toil systems are incredible. I believe this last year. They're supposed to have a talk talking about how they're able to do that. And and the focus. They were able to put on that. And so like as far as this Danica stuff as far as all these different accessibility features, it's been it's been nice to see that or how the conversation has evolved. I remember Celeste being like a big. A big. Talking, point for for this right that game, coming out with an assessment that you tweak like how much health you had lied to become many jumps got. They'll let you get into the nitty gritty of what you're able to do. In that game for a game that is all about difficulty Ryan is all about conquering mountain for that to also have all these different features that would allow a people who might not have the same ability as your me. Be able to play it with some sort and I. Know I I'm sure there's. There's ways that Celeste could have done better. Also sir, the fact that they had that assessment was great for for so many people so like coming back, looking at night, all and seeing the growth like seeing the fact that we had conversations of having a separate mode, but the more and more we have those conversations more. We learned that Oh. That's not enough like people have to be able to go in and tweak those settings to to be s specific to their needs as possible because everybody's different especially when it comes to accessibility. And so like good on them like this is really cool and yeah to what you're saying I. Really Hope to see other. Developers adopt this I really hope to see naughty dog shared. Share what they have here with other developers in terms of the things they've learned in the things that were. The things that that allowed them to get into the nitty gritty that way. Options that are available. And it just makes us face better. Just makes all the games that we get now for the future better, because then folks can inform other other companies to say like Oh. Here's the thing you might have missed, or here's the thing that you put in that. You might need to tweak like the good feedback. Did you get from the accessibility? Communities is amazing in terms of how well it's made. Games going going forward so. that. They're doing this and this is something that more people need to do. Calling spahn and sticker Christine Bond and Steve sailer like I've learned so much when it comes to accessibility and. Never have thought of. In terms of video games in the things that affect the way that they're able to play games like Steve. sailer reports the blind Gamer on twitter in on Youtube right like. He talks a lot about subtitles in how so many games just are are fucked in terms of the size of their texts, and like how that lets small the thing that I would never think about like that I would've. I would've just never. Cared about. Him, bringing up, and talking about in talking, talking about the way that it actually affects him how he and people like him are able to play games like you know, it's very eye opening, and so you're saying right. This makes us better for all of us into to the final year in the article where Scott's and that accessibility for us is about removing barriers that are keeping players from completing a game. It's not about dumbing dumbing down a game or making a game easy because I know that's been. That's been a talking point before. Especially, when with like souls born titles, and like you know, should souls born games have accessibility. All these different things right like you know. The thing that I know when when that conversation happened with zero I was in a place where. I I was very conflicted on the topic. Wilder much like all right like you want. You want creative vision to be seen. He won't be able to have that difficulty if this is going to be your if you want this game to be difficult game as the developed, but I I also understand the accessibility portion of it, too, and yeah, the more and more thought about more morals like the more and more. In fact, let me say this. The more and more I open my ears to listen to people that were were having that conversation right people like Steven Spawn. In quite a few other people, the more and more I felt like I was able to learn the more and more I was like okay cool. Yes, not necessarily about. Preserving. The necessarily about making it difficult game easy right, it's about preserving that difficult experience for somebody who wants to be able to play period. Right like it's not about getting an easy mode is about accessibility options being put into? So that other people can enjoy it. Would learn sorry. You often. But doesn't say that's and that's the beauty of it right? which is the thing I again? I don't think the selfish crowd gets a lot is that it's not about you? It's not about you at all. It's about making sure that everyone can get into the game and like everyone can do the thing and if you don't want to do you don't WanNa use those actions you don't have to. They're just options you don't have to them. That's the thing that bugged me out. I was like you don't have to put it on. Display the way. Other people played it and everybody else rocket with the other versions of it or the other options. That doesn't make sense exactly. Our last story story number four. This is Greg Miller joint. He was the one that dropped this in the. Show and so I I. Got I gotta I gotta read it. WWe to twenty two looking at smackdown in no mercy for inspiration This is from Andy Robinson Vio Games. Chronicle even get into. It clicked you play any wrestling games. The wrestling team wrestling games ever been your jam. Oh Yeah, for sure was I'm like old school? No mercy and no way out, and you know all that stuff. I remember that fire pro wrestling Perfect visit new story is for you, It reads to caves wwe. Games boss has said his development team is looking at past classics such as easy smackdown as this relation further next game, former Double Helix, studio head Patrick. Patrick Gilmore was deployed as the new W W K lead earlier this year as the game franchise attempts to enact a renewed focus on quality in April. Two K. confirmed earlier reports that plans for WWe touquet twenty one had been canceled following a challenging twenty twenty game WWe touquet twenty disappointing full debut for developer visual concepts, resulting in one of the lowest metacritic scores in two KS history, mostly due to a huge number of technical issues at release participating in ridicule a this weekend to KS Gilmore revealed the first details of his plan for twenty, twenty one St Wbz game, and told fans expect a quote, significant evolution in Gameplay with the next installment and quo-. Quote. Core, Gameplay is one of the major is one of the major investments were making in the next installment, one of the six six pillars. We are focused on a disproportionately in development. He wrote he continues. We're looking at much, loved previous games like no mercy or smackdown here comes the pain along with the top franchise installments and more modern wrestling, and fighting games to build an all new Philosophical Foundation for the game and quo. However, the WWE Games boss added that fans expecting to k twenty two to to wholesale adopt a control scheme, or philosophy from one of their favorite games would likely to be disappointed. We're trying to combine the best ideas out there into a brand new resting experience that sets a new standard. He said Gohmert claim that WWe to K to K. twenty two gameplay would be focused on accessibility depth in wrestling experience, and he goes on they go on in the article to kind of down the whole accessibility, accessibility, deft, interesting experience, thing but had recommend people go to yoga truck. If you're interested to learn more about that, my colleague, we both. We will like finding games at least like moral combat. And we both played wrestling games in the past I'm sure you followed to K twenty and followed. How broken that game ended up being It's been it's been an interesting journey. Seeing that can come out broke in this year's game, being canceled replaced with two K. battlegrounds, and now they're talking about the revamp their the revamps. They're wanting to make for next year's game. How were you at in terms of all this? How do you feel about it I'm so surprised that they're still going like. That's the thing that's bugging me out more than anything else. Just like you're still making games and to be honest. They haven't been good for a very very long time. Like in his amazing that they still budget that in into their into their marketing plans and they've put that into into deb when it's not really that good, it is not Mac you mentioned huge moneymaker though. I mean my. As a licensed game there are very few wrestling games. I get licensed that are that big, plus since WWe has a monopoly basically on on on big time wrestling, I mean TNA is still near this car in all the other places in. U. W. like all those all those outlets are still there you know you can. You can make the argument for which one has been arrested in it, which has a story lines, but it thinks know in terms of brain and mind share like most people will just go to the W. because they know that brand had been growing. They've grown up with it for a long time. I am just confused like I. WanNa see what they're gonNA. Do actually more excited at the fact that they were going to do that. Battlegrounds game. As a wrestling game because I don't think the the the two K. NBA game wasn't great playgrounds was. Agreed at all. It was really bad actually. And I was hoping to see a more arcade style wrestling gain. Come into the space like Midways Old-school Wrestlemainia gain that they had which was fantastic. So. It's like I. Don't know what they're trying to do anymore. I don't know if they should just take a year off like they said that they were GONNA do. A couple of years ago like wait in like shelving and then try to revamp it. I mean this year is that you're all pretty much right around, but yeah, but a- lake. I don't know like again as wrestling games go. It is very difficult to get that good balance between what a kind of because they've always tried to make us same wrestling game to a certain extent. In the same thing that they've done to K- NBA Two K. and it's still think it's ever really come off in a good way. That felt really fun to to me and felt like I was getting the experience of what it's like to be in an actual or watch a really good wrestling match. We've tried to all these different systems to be able to do that, but. But I just felt like. It's never really gotten there so I'm more inclined to say like this. Give me an arcade wrestler thing that I can basically you know, beat each other out. Do Special moves have fun with people in a party environment, and then just call it a day like I don't think they need to do all the extra sensitive and try no, you horn into it. For me, it's been interesting to see the the announcement of battlegrounds because that was one where I think. We all watched the trailer and went. Oh No! You know in theory. It sounds like a great idea, but like seeing what the actual thing looks like seeing the actual trailer. It seems like it's very undercooked in a way where I toyed. You're saying I think an arcade. Wrestling game could be really awesome for them to take a step back. And be like hey, like even even if they are going to do a yearly Sim game like maybe maybe every other year alongside it do like arcade game, but battlegrounds doesn't seem to be the one that's going to hit the way that it needs to in order to actually make that thing that we all get excited about. As far as What they've talked about here in the article as far as what they're kind of pointed to is as the direction for the next game, the give me some hope like the idea that they're looking at fighting games, and no mercy and smackdown, and the things that people loved about those earlier games. Right that makes me think like okay. At least their are in the right place, especially with them, citing fighting games. I think that's an interesting thing because I know for me when I played wrestling games. I've never really thought about them as fighting games like they're, they're. They're more so sports games to me then fighting, games, because there's there's there's so much at work reading reading the article they go onto kind of site. Things like hey, we want. We want there to be less mini games right like when you're doing a submission arena when you're doing. A certain move right like we wanted to be less mini game focus and we wanted to be more so like the things that you're doing extensions of the systems, which no. That sounds incredible. Sounds like actual like finding game talk. They also talk about an article like accessibility and how they want. They want it to be a thing. Where yeah, even though we're trying to make these systems advanced, want people to be able to jump in and for the first time play and still pull off really cool stuff in feel satisfied like if they're able to pull that off. That's awesome like that's really. Really cool I met the don't necessarily have the trust and for them, which is like my big thing is like all right cool, but this is still y'all coming off of two K twenty and we also have that when we all like wrestling games for the last decade haven't necessarily been all the excuse me Evan at all that right like the last wrestling game that I played. Absolutely loved was wwe. smackdown vs RAW, two, thousand, seven who? And I love that game. It was it was an excellent game with an excellent soundtrack money in the bank, but yeah dude like. Yeah as far as far as the future of W Games like this. All sounds exciting I WANNA see them. Put their money where their mouth is I. Just wanted to do I think of the perfect mash up would be a little bit of Def Jam Five New York. A SMIDGE OF DEAF JAN icon. And A little bit of fire pro wrestling. Because then you get a little bit a mix of Arcadia. A little bit of the Sam get a lot of the content created. Character creation which is a huge wrestling game. Oh, yeah, so like you get a little bit of a massive all those things and that kind of. Funnels into that accessibility conversation to which we're DEF JAM. Those Games are really easy to pick up in place. It would be cool to see what they're going to do. I'm hoping and want to check out battlegrounds just to see what they did. But we'll see. Now Colleagues I. Didn't I didn't prep you on this next transition for the show and so I? I. Hope you've either listen to the show or I hope you're looking at the dock Reyna Goshen. I I'm very excited to see what the feature of the WBZ Games is, but that feature is so far away. If I want to know what's coming to Mama crop shops today. We're I look. You would go to the official list of upcoming software across each and every platform as listened by the kind of Dame's daily show host, each and every weekday dude. Out Today. It's a it's a small released. It well actually let me just say that. 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Games only at Brooklyn. Dot Com Brooklyn everything. You need flavor most comfortable life. Cliff. Daisy writes in two Patriot dot. com slash kind of funny games just like you can, and says hey, blessing, Khalif. We've seen a number of gaming companies public publicly sharing a public share their support for the black community, and acknowledging the magnitude of the moment we are in there has been a spokesman exception though intendo at this time, intendo hasn't said a word which I find incredibly disappointing I looked to hear your guys perspective on both Intendo, silence or any other Simond company as well as as well as the companies that are speaking out much love. Cliff, do you have any thoughts on Nintendo? Not Speaking out. I'm not surprised to be honest like I. I think Nintendo for a long period of time. We've seen this conversation happen. I think if I'm recalling correctly especially during S- platoon times when it came to conversations that were pretty heavily talked about in black communities around hair and other things like that. I I don't think Nintendo's built for this in that way like I. Just don't think they are very much like we want to be apolitical as much as possible and we don't to dig into hard conversations like that. I don't know. Did they ever speak out about? Etiquette as passing. Did they ever talk about any of that? I, don't know I, don't I? Don't recall them, yes, Lake! Yeah I. Don't know I think for the most part again. Like Nintendo kind of pleased the sideline when it comes to most of these things we have to remember that a lot of the kind of on come from down high of messaging and stuff comes from a very Japanese company. Who may not necessarily have the the words verbiage to to really express those things in a clear and concise way to an American and especially a black American audience. So, that's the thing to to remember when you're having that. Conversation about Nintendo end. Yeah, like I I. Don't have an expectation for everyone to speak out. It's nice if they do, they should be doing it. If they don't definitely put that into your mental Rolodex to be like I remember. You know. I'm the by yourself next time around when you put out a thing or I may not support the thing that you put out next time. But again we talked about earlier in the show. It's not about just the now. It's about the future. Pay attention to that stuff like make sure that you again put down software market down and be like. Hey, not to say that you need to give them, so you need to boycott them, but like remember it because it is important that they didn't say a thing. During this time Manetti didn't remark anything or even signal. Busey people who they possibly could cause. Cause a grip of dope black concentrator in the Nintendo spaces, and for the games that they play, and for the Games they make. There's a lot of people who at work in at least they could have done issue a showcase, some of those people out to to the rest of their community with their platform that they have so thing to think about. Yeah I agree. One of those things where to what you said right like they're very Japanese companies especially when you compare them to something like Sony Sony spoke out or had a statement ray, in the first statement we we saw was like all right. Cool whatever you see them actually push ps. Five launched launched the PS vibe game. Reveal event those happening later this week. And it's one of those things where more of an international company it feels like in terms of of especially playstation playstation. is way more of an international company when then Nintendo Nintendo. Also in an international company, but very much Japanese at the same time. And Yeah like it's one of those things where at one I don't necessarily expect every single company to speak out, and that's not even necessarily what I personally ask for I don't I could care less about what brands have to say about. Issues because a lot of the is brands protecting protecting their backs right like brands brands covering themselves like especially when when we earlier in the show though but like. When it comes to brands, saying things that not necessarily having any sort of action or not, necessarily, not necessarily even like you know giving money, donating or doing anything not to support the cause anything practical. It's like. All Right! Cool I! Like thanks I guess, but I feel. Like. Let's not I don't really care I. don't necessarily sometimes. It doesn't move the needle. And so like I kind of I kind of lump. In terms of this, maybe lump Nintendo in that like. I personally don't care. If brands speak out or not I love when brands do something proactive and I ranch give and I love. Rembrandt donate to to causes that matter by in this moment. I'm like like the last. It's almost like the day. Chapelle stand up where he's like. Where they're asking where they're asking rule about nine eleven, and he was like who the WHO the fuck cares about with John Rule has a time like this. I don't give a fuck about what Nintendo has to. Like this I, if I'm being very honest, I don't care. because. Audiences like what would be the thing that they could say? Is it just them needing to say anything or do? They need to be like full-throated in what they need to say. Because that to me. That's also a big difference, too like if you come to this conversation, kind of mealy-mouth and kind of as a fence sitter in not really talk to the actual issue, then the words that you don't really have any impact on again. They don't move the needle so like if you're gonNA say a thing, so you, which chest and if you're not then don't say it at all. Yeah. I'm very much more so concerned about what what the personalities and human beings there have to say like I'm. Reggie fees may is probably my favorite people in the industry and I remember when I think it might have been. As, he was leaving Nintendo or actually no I I think it was. The ARC, wanting of resurfaced as he was leaving Nintendo the from I Walker From Austin Walker yes, where he's talking about the value of diversity in the industry and how Nintendo goes about lake by. Reggie a lot of things in that article right like he I believe the same article talked about. He talked about crunch, and he talked about how like yeah like we work to fight crunch we try to. We try to hire more when it comes to times where things are more involved in heavy in terms of workload and like. I look at I look at Reggie as a figure who I'm like all right cool like Nintendo is not saying much as a brand, but Reggie as like the head of that brand at that time is out here, being being outspoken and saying all all the right things in a way. We're like yeah, you go like that's awesome Oh. My heard him rep, his blackness railway to which. It was like eye opening in really amazing. Because I was like Oh like I see it. We all see it, but like it's important to hear people say it out loud and be like no. I am proud to be black person from the Bronx Stuttered A. X Y Z. It's super important representation that visibility super important. Ahead plus I'm sorry exactly. No, no. You're you're totally good but yeah like I would wanna see for me. Would I prefer in terms of people in terms of brand speaking out? I prefer to see their higher of speaking out I prefer to say the people actually talking and speaking out because I think that's way more volumes than like. You know I don't know Coca Cola coming out and being like hey, racism racism is bad, it's. Cool. We know like that's a very safe stands to have that racism is bad. That's. Not Moment. Yeah all right cool. that. Have I didn't see that happened once this. By the way I, didn't see one Pepsi handed out and fix things. Tear gas go out. You go exactly exactly now it's time to squad up. Tober knock rights rights in with the squad up on ps four and says hey, blessing Khalif. I finally got into Apex Legends, and I'm looking for some best friends to play with anyone who squad up for some good times can add me on ESPN. username is tour. Knock I'm usually on after seven PM. Eastern time thanks a well everyone again tober knock, spelt, T., O., R., V. A. N. N. K. ON PS four. If you want to add to not complain APEX LEGENDS OR Now it's time. For one of them rotating segments, this segment is exclusive for this week I'm going to try and have it on the show. Eat each day this week. 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348: Kahlief Adams: Ghost of Tsushima, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Watch Dog Legion, PS5, Project Xcloud, Xbox Game Pass, Stadia, Death Stranding PC

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348: Kahlief Adams: Ghost of Tsushima, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Watch Dog Legion, PS5, Project Xcloud, Xbox Game Pass, Stadia, Death Stranding PC

"The You. You feel that so my goodness that basis dropped in and wherever you are whenever you are, and however you happen to be listening. We're so glad you've chosen a tune in the D. L. C.. Specially if you're one of our geeks in snakes using this podcast, power you through a workout or run. We're going to try to help being in your ear holes for ninety plus minutes. Gaming goodness because DLC is your downloadable commentary for the week delivered the way we love it to be, and that is completely free to our sponsor this week. Quip quip brings the show to you. You'll see of. Of course, the show all about games in their many forms games played on desktops, laptops, and consoles also games that involve dice, luck and cardboard I'm your host Jeff Cannata that spell with two N.'s won t and I am joined as always by my friend slash co host slash nemesis, the guy who also was able to pick out the elephant on his cognitive test Mr. Christian Spicer Hello Christian. It was so easy I could. the in the test was like roof. You know like that one question. I was like runs the elephants. I was like. Count backwards from one hundred by seven. You know what ninety three ninety three's answer. It's an elephant. It's so easy. Have my favorite part of that entire clip is is him saying ninety three under his breath? Who Chris Wallace Ninety three under his breath. It's so funny so funny anyway. How you doing Christian her things. I'm you know enduring a half? Said this on the show. Today was a good day. Hopefully, tomorrow is a good as well today right now is my wife and I seventeen th wedding anniversary so moly and you're here doing this. I'm so sorry there's nowhere else I'd rather be my friend. We've we. We've been married for for nearly that long I love my wife. No, this is great. I'm happy to. That there's Today's my anniversary. I'd rather be here. No. Lovely weekend and I'm happy to be here doing this show well, I need to send your wife flowers for letting you be here and congratulations on on that that's incredible and wonderful and beautiful and. Let's talk video. We got. We have a lot to talk about. We're still in the middle of the Summer Games. We got announcements. We got huge game releases. We're GONNA be talking. Ghost of Sushi? We're GONNA. Be talking assassin's creed vol hollow. We're GONNA be. Talking Watchdogs Legion. So much so many games to talk about. But we have one of my favorite guests to do it with, so you know you're in good hands, you know the deal always stands for your downloadable. CanNot in your downloadable, Christian, but this week once again DLC stands for dialing live. Continue because from spun on me. We've got the captain of the spun on Me Empire. Our friend, truly one of my favorite people in the world Mr. Khalif is back with us hey. Khalif my brothers. How are you I am so excited to rocky tonight Christian it is your anniversary. I feel like I should sing the anniversary. Song the Tony Tony. Tony won out loud. You can let. Get the Scotto ready for when you're done with. Adam Sandler. You met, but. But I'm so excited Iraq with the I'm real need this good energy in my life. So this is going to be fun. It has been too long and we're so excited to to hang with you as well as We got lots to get into, so let's start the start the train rolling with story of the week. Story down. Gives the story Story Week. Story of the week is the part of the show where we make our case for the most important stories that happened in the world of games this week. You could always submit stories for consideration by sending us an email to DLC. FEEDBACK AT G DOT COM. It's also you can send comments questions. Whatever is on your mind? We love hearing about. It reviews of games that we might miss that. We get incorporate into the show. We love hearing that as well. You could also hang out in our some. Read it where other like minded folks are gathering and talking about the show talking about video games talking about whatever's on their mind checkout are celebrated at five by five deal dot, ready dot, com, but cleef you. You are our guest, so you get first pick a stories. What would you consider to be your story of the week? Ooh? Ex Cloud, going into game pass ultimate is going to be the jam I think that when we talk about the conversation about which big Honcho is doing the work of giving you the consumer. The best deal for your dollar has to be Microsoft right now continues to go down that road. I'm talking about Phil, Spencer, talking about including it in the September in September game, pass ultimate, being a huge part of that at no extra cost is going to be fantastic for everyone involved. WHO's in the in the Microsoft ecosystem? That's going to be really really cool. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean we talk. We've talked on this show many many times about how much we think. The xbox game pass subscription is already a pretty awesome value. And yet they keep throwing more value into an X.. Cloud of course is the play anywhere elements that xbox is or Microsoft is been rolling out and continues to roll out in one thinks will be a big part of the next few years. A big part of the experts series ex-experience. This is the ability to play your xbox games on your cell phone on your devices of all kinds dreaming it and it's something that I don't know if you've got a chance to test out last year's e three, I did. It works pretty well east in those conditions it did. Did you get a chance to try it? I did at the show I did and it works like it's amazing. The amount of technology that we have around us and how well it keeps getting, it's like it gets better every year. I remember being at Gd see five six years ago at this point in seeing folks, xbox talking about this being a part of their roadmap, and now we're actually seeing come to fruition it is, it is technology. Of course we've seen other versions of playing anywhere in the cloud. You know playstations done that with remote play things like Parsi in the space, and all these other organizations and companies doing this work, but it feels like Microsoft integrating this into a console into the P. C.. Again feels like something very different. Something very special, so I'm excited to see where this is going to go. Yeah, it feels like an entire company wide initiative. You know such such. An Adela has really redefined what? xbox stands for or excuse me. xbox Microsoft has a whole what what Microsoft stands for. because. It seems like they're de emphasizing windows, and letting Microsoft Services and cloud stuff be on all kinds of different devices, and you can get word and the word suite on apple devices now on the IPAD. And it feels like that's kind of what they're doing on the gaming side as well as being less precious about where you play stuff, and just opening it up and let letting anybody play it anywhere. which as you said when you introduce the story CLEEF is? Really pro-consumer and feels like a win for gamers. I'm kind of reminded also guys about. How Amazon seems determined to make a prime subscription, just a no brainer. It's like. There's so much value in a prime subscription. It just feels dumb not to have one sometimes. It's like yeah, I like the. Second day no cost shipping all that stuff. That's why buying it, or maybe it's the video service with all the movies, or maybe it's the music that I'm I mean they just keep lumping more and more things into this one fee to the point where it's like wallet it. It just doesn't make any sense not to be a subscriber and I kind of feel like. Maybe that's the same play here where you know, Microsoft is just lumping more and more things into a game. Pass subscription to the point where it's like it just doesn't make any sense not to be subscribing to this thing. I mean I'm in a boat. Where every time I think about you know in, get excited about the possibilities of all the things I'm going to be able to do with not only X. Cloud, but just game passes itself both on the PC and console, like it is opened up titles for me that I have not played at all like I'm really excited about a flight simulator now in a way that I was. Excited about ever in my life I'm like I, can fly over my own house in Microsoft flight simulator. I'M GONNA. Get that note with player coach for free, but still I'm going to be able to get all these cool games and I was never gonNA play before in my suite of games. I'M GONNA play. Did you see that? Did you see that? They announced that? The Microsoft flight simulator on PC? If you bite in the store is gonNA come on seventeen DVD's amazing. Yonkers amazing I'm so happy about that. That's going to be the best collector's item on the market is going to be so don't to have seventeen this with no disk drive on my PC. I. I'm old enough to remember like buying kings, quest six, or whatever it was and getting like twenty. Five or three and a half inch floppy disks in the box. You know those days when he just like. That's the best we can the only. Got For you, so I mean look GonNa have a ton of coasters now, going to be fantastic to put on my drinks on all these Microsoft flight simulator disks. So Christian, spicer, Gears Five Halo Master Chief Collection Destiny to plague tale. Innocence Devil May cry five six dark siders three. The list goes on on of the Games that are going to be supported on xbox game. Pass ultimate with X. Cloud. These are games that you'll be able to have as part of your subscription and also play anywhere. What do you think about this is this is this the stadia killer is this. Is this your dream finally realized just company who didn't expect it to come from. NO SHORT ANSWER No! I mean we talked about it last three I've I've liked X. Cloud I've Demo I was in the Android Beta as it rolled out wide, that was ever able to get to the IRS Beta, not sure why. Bill Gates. But I I'm high on service I like it and I think we've talked about how it makes sense for them to bundle anything other part of this story. Is that the one year xbox gold subscription is no longer available Microsoft is kind of sunset that. They've also said that they don't play on changing the price. A game pass ultimate like. It when this change happens in, September, which I think is a little bit of Trojan horse of like a change it now, but when we get ya then we're GonNa Change. As you know net flicks, I think when I signed up I, think they like paid me and send someone over to give me a a back rub. And then every six monster like now it's more and I'm like well. It's only a dollar more whatever it is and I understand things he'd eat more expensive especially as they increase value so I think I wouldn't be surprised if game pass Holtom it becomes more expensive, and you know the end of twenty twenty one. But. It makes a lot of sense to kind of streamline. Declutter your offerings. You have your product now is. Able to play your games. You know they don't necessarily care. Where or how in this is just another avenue and they talked about early on that the best place to play, we'll be on dedicated hardware like we don't think the cloud can replace that yet, but they're making it available as a way to play in talk about I'm rolling in another story, but I think it's part of the conversation of like their version of one gaming where I think it's a great way to have demos again and be able to just say Oh. Halo infant that sounds Pretty Fun Oh, I clicked this now because of X. Cloud. I'm playing, you know quick, five minute level or game of multi-player or whatever it is without needing to wait for a overnight download of seventeen disc Game Ryan and then you're directly on I. Just press one button it's it's what St Google Stadia has been I honestly I. Think you and I talked a lot about that. Being sort of the killer. Feature of of Stadia was was. You're watching somebody on Youtube and all of a sudden you can press one button and be playing the game. They're playing. That one button access to a game feels like a major major paradigm shift. Yes, and unfortunately you know to your first question. It stinks. Everybody's correct, but what's killed stadium is Google it seems like you know like I. Still really like the streaming future. I still think it's very viable Microsoft I. Think has a great position on it, and it frustrates me I. Mean Get another story. There are related the stadium connect. It was like. The Jurassic Park theme played on a broken harmonica. And it breaks my heart because I still really believe in the idea of the product that they first advertised just keep not delivering that product in Microsoft so far I. Think has had a very great slow measured delivery of what Project X. Cloud is in Welby enrolling into game pass ultimate that I think I have in perpetuity in it goes to my kids in my will have so much. You know I'm I'm very excited and I think the. It's weird like the next generation. Whatever you WANNA. Call it. For Microsoft is very exciting in a different way than getting. Spiderman Miles Morales is exciting like Microsoft is about to. Shift out of generations, and into just delivery in M super super excited to see work us. Yeah, yeah! I agree I think I think this is. This is becoming a just a no brainer service for me I'm already subscribed to xbox game. Pass ultimate, so it's just more stuff for my already. The thing I'm already paying for, so it's yes pretty wild. You know, but but at a certain point. It's interesting to me that the quote unquote console wars such as they are. are going to be being played. Being fought on completely different battlefields, you know Microsoft is an even isn't even playing on the same battlefield anymore. It's just it's pretty exciting from my perspective, actually because they're doing so many things that are just so different and approaching this new generation of consoles in a completely different way and I think I think that's compelling and I think that's how the industry has forward is these companies don't just do the same thing again. We're like okay well. We have to pretty equivalent boxes and software. That's pretty equivalent, so let's look at the exclusives. You know we've done that for two generations now and it feels. It's that's there's an excitement to the new hardware and all those new exclusives. Yeah, but this just really feels like it's going to be a completely different kind of thing this time and that makes me excited I'm excited for that I. have to say this to like. You have to give Phil. Spencer massive amounts of proverbs lay. Like talk about turning the ship around right? YOU HAVE METRIC SCREW UP! That happened some years ago. That led to the connect era. Days at that lasted. Ariza strong word. The blip on. The, radar. And saying unless you were saying error then. Yes I agree. I, misspoke I'm sorry. But it is one of those things like when you think of like fantastic leadership. Right like the ideas that Phil has kind of put into motion and the rest of the team of course. It just goes back to the idea of like. The consumer is the thing that we care about the people who are buying our stuff and we are going to be playing. Our Games are the folks that were catering this thing to in a way that companies don't really do that kind of work in the same ways like Sony is done some of that over the years because they've had like folks like At the helm some of those things kind of of an out front personality, but I think in terms of all the companies who we we kind of put in a big three. Microsoft right now is position in a way that they have never been positioned in before to one hopefully maybe. Get market share. If they do come early, they come out. I am also having a roadmap for not only their hardware before their software that's going to continue to keep you in their ecosystems, both on the PC and on the console, like it is such an interesting space that they find themselves in where they can actually do a lot of the stuff. They talked about doing for the past couple of generations and actually see it through. Knowing Exciting I. Agree with you and I think that the biggest difference is that they have the messaging right this time. I feel like they could have positioned themselves at at the launch of xbox one in the same way, and it somehow got turned on them that it was anti consumer and we're going to block you. We're going to force you to be online, and and all those things instead of positioning in a way of like this is these. This is going to make games more interesting work. We're going to be always online anyway. Most of you lose is how you know. It would just a little ahead of the game on some of that stuff. And they had just. Atrocious, match messaging about it right and now this time it feels like they've got the messaging in line and people understand where they're coming from, and actually even I. Think there's also applies to. Google and stadium because. They could have the messaging right. They could be saying the same things could be saying. Stadium makes it easy for you to play really cool games for basically nothing and not have to worry about upgrading your system. All those things could feel very. Consumer forward and like reducing the barrier between a player and a game. Instead all of their messaging at the beginning was. Here's the price. You'll have to pay to get our thing. For offering at this price, and it's like no, no, no what you want to be saying is. You can just push a button and you can play games, and you can choose what you buy and you can buy on. Any system will work on anything because you're not actually playing it on that thing, and like you could, it could have been this instead. It feels like it was fumbled bungled and that's unfortunate to me. Christian Spicer. What is your story of the week? The Microsoft stuff I think is the biggest story. And then they're following that you know with Thursdays hopefully other bigger stories, only talking lots of Microsoft next week four although I don't think you're going to be here, Christians but I am not going to be here but I am going to record some thoughts. So you could include them if you if you'd like into the. Only review the thoughts and see if they're worth putting in the. Of the Iraqi. Jeff is the best if I. Were if this podcast were and come up with like hot takes, you know. Sticking the knife in man who sticking the knife in I gotta get it now while I still movie. Would this be like yeah I get it. I get it. let's see what movie would it be now? Just? What's your story of the week? Which is the way? Sony's production ramp up right like. So one, it's just I said it on here. I'll say it again. COVID is. In the our country, Mike, Country United States our country, all of us on the show, not everyone listening, but our handling of it, and the cases in those suffering in that have lost loved one it is. A mess to put it to understand it million. The MEA culpa is like I. Believe I remember talking. When we first talked about it on this show, it was this thing in this other country on the other side of the world. That might affect the games, we buy like. On, Seoul's. We need wink, no man. What are we doing this stuff? Happening in China's going to disrupt production may potentially that'll be a mild inconvenience all us. Just. You know it's a mess in people around. I can't say it in a way and sure enough. You know the time I have like. I feel for everyone. It is hard, and it is not good all that is going into talking about Sony. Saying now that they're going to double production of playstation, five, originally, the reporting of five to six million units before the end of March, twenty, twenty one and now they're looking to have ten million done in that same time span. They did mention that there still might earn. Sorry, maybe ten before the end of the year I. Forget if that's calendar year fiscal fiscal. It is so march today's March. They were going to have five. Million had five million by the end of December and then ten million, another five million by the end of March yacht it. Yes, and then they did talk about like a distribution some in that you know they're still might be shortages, places but Sony seems to be feeling very confident about their system and what they're delivering and also. I think because of COVID and. Other factors in the world as well, but like the boom gaming is continuing to see during this time. You know I'm a news web way out. Sales are way up for a lot. Ironically, the best time to get new consoles out there I guess if you're able to get them and safe ways, and I think Digital and in that pipeline is well. I think is is a very enticing one so I'm curious to you find folks. Will playstation five be purchaseable. By? People. Who Want it? Within its. First Week of release. I sure hope so. I hope so but. So we don't count you know what I mean. I'M NOT ASKING IF WE'RE GONNA find a way to get it like I will clockwork orange. My Eyes Open at my computer to you're saying you're saying MOMS and dads looking for Christmas gifts it first week purchases, so it enthusiasts purchaser, but yeah with the lineup was going to be. Hey, follow Warri Oh four on twitter I'll get one you know. Aren't GONNA be like. Before you answer cleave. Let's let's do some comparative numbers, because evidently if you look back at playstation four. Four point five million PS. Four units were shipped to retailers in two thousand thirteen, which is the year it was released, and it took until June twenty fourteen that figure to reach ten million. So. This is all I mean comparable to ps four four calendar year twenty twenty. But then. Double that it took until June and now they're saying March, so it a it's. It's a lot more, but it's not. That much more so take that as a data point Khalif in make your prediction. I mean we see the cycle. Happen every big console launch rate. It's like you have the first wave that gets put up on Amazon and gets put up on all the stores that you would have as usual suspects, and then the scalpers role in first. Because they have magical botts. They can crawl every website and get everything first. And then those folks will up sell it. Two Thousand Bucks a fifteen hundred dollars in everybody else like I can't get my PS. I I mean. To be to be completely honest I, honestly feel like. There will be a fair amount of consoles out there, but in in because of the fact, that covert is a factor. I think the money that people are going to have to kick out for that even on the enthusiasm. That's point is a space where folks are going to be really paying attention, not only to the way that the viruses continuing to it's spread, but also you have an election coming up right at that point to. Think about that in terms of the way, people are going to be thinking about not only the immediate future, but in the subsequent months after that to say like all right so. Who is in this case? Am I GONNA? Spend my money on a new console or a plane ticket to another country. You know my bags and leave America or hunker down and have some fun with video games. No joke, no joke. There's GonNa be a real interesting point right there for not only for Sony to kind of think about, but you know depending upon when Microsoft decides. They want to talk about price and date and all that stuff. What I do think is that that being a factor in all of those conversations makes me wonder if the usual launch date that we kind of see these consoles happening would be moved up. To kind of skirt some of that potential. Come Energy in the space. I wonder if that's going to be the thing I guarantee you the preordered. It will be before the election. For sure. And you know I. Think I'm actually GONNA. Hundred and eighty degrees, my previous position, which was that Cova was going to make scarcity increase and I i. think you make some really strong points clear about just you know the economy and people not having the disposable income that they have, but also I do think that this this new story is showing that Sony's recognized. They certainly have some internal data that says hey. We need more of these in the channel, right? They're doing something that recognizes. You'd hope so. This isn't the decision that you just Kinda go. Right, so they've got some. They've got something that's telling them. We need more of these things and. I M! Maybe. This is me being optimimistic, but I honestly think we have you know the three of us on the shore of an of an age where we remember I certainly slept on the street in front of a best buy to get my xbox three sixty I'm sure the two of you have done weird and extraordinary things to get concert in the past, and we've all seen the lived through the lines to get iphones, and the as you said Khalifa the scalpers and the bears of the world. Maybe, I'm overly optimistic, but I kind of feel like the world has moved on from that I! Am We still see blips of it with like you know? The mini snes and stuff like that, but I think these large global product rollouts now like I haven't had to stand in line for an iphone. In how long you know, it's a good point. I. Don't think I just think that we are now. You order it online you. You can pre-order it. You preordered online. It ship it to your house. It's all friction lists and easy, and I think they're just gonNA. Have a ton of them. And again maybe I'm being Pollyanna, but. That's kind of I. Think it's going to be like we're all. GonNa wait until midnight on the day. For preorder, and we're going to sit up there and we're all going to get them, and there's going to be the next day wall. Wake up and anybody that wakes up. The next day will still be able to order them and I just think it's going to be A. Kind of a non issue that just. Feels like it should be issue because we all lived through it when it was. The only option to that is is the switch still like going into down. The switch became extremely scarce again and it's popping up from here to there. You know from time to time. It's not impossible to get, but it's not as easy to get as you would think. A however rolled. It is console. Would they did have issues with China? They did have a production issues manufacturing issues with with. Kovin, so, maybe you're right. Maybe that will. Carry over and be the case again. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I just. It just feels like the world. has moved on from that like companies just understand that thing now. But you're right it haven't we switched so maybe it was happening I don't know. So. It's encouraging to me that there's going to be more of them because I felt like. I don't think ten million by March. Maybe they will, but that'd be. That's pretty optimistic. I. Think that's Pretty Great. Alright a my story of the week I guess we have to at least talk about the Google connect. We talked about it a little, too mean. Christian. And leave guys it's. It's the summer of games. Here's the crazy thing. Can't. Okay this time this time. The bumper actually makes sense for this story. This time she stepped on the bumper. I'm sorry. No, that's okay. I didn't give any warning trying to do a thing. I didn't even know that it was happening. Like somebody was like? Oh, the CUCKOO connected stated connect happen I was like what I usually pretty good about keeping appoint video game news. Happen, it's that's the saddest commentary literally. You're a whole, you know. Your whole online presence is talking about this stuff and you're like. Oh, that's today. Didn't know where to happen Fan. I was like what is they put up a thing, was it? Did it go well? The answer is no I did not go that way though. I mean it was fine. It was fine. Everybody's doing a connect so I. Not Google I you know. I talked snarly about Stadia. Anybody who's listening to the show for long enough knows that I was I've been rooting for Stadia. I wanted it to be the thing Christian still rooting for Stadia and point I'm I mean I'm still rooting for it in theory because I still have mine somewhere around this room right now I don't know where. Cancel my subscription of course, but I wanted to I wanted to work as advertised. But boy, even this connect A. It's hard hard for me to even pluck out. Any reason for them to have done it. Quits frankly I guess because everybody was doing. It can act, and maybe they were going to have a big presence at three if that had happened. Who knows but yeah, they announced a bunch of games that are coming stadia and buy a bunch of games. I mean I think twenty just not not nothing, but for a platform. That doesn't have much already You know. Go ahead. A lot we're old bladder, old and a lot of our art. Our old on the on the now we know that cyberpunk and Zach Credible Khawla are both coming Dan date stadium at that's not nothing cyberpunk, I think they said it's not. A. Well. That's sad, but they are coming right. They're coming to this to the platform. That's not nothing. And they and they and they announced exclusives. That, are games I. Guess, but you know Seguro was the big a big announcement Hello neighbor, which is a lovely game. It's been out on pc for a year I. Think Hitman Hitman to are coming. In three which launching January super bomber man. They been a big deal about super bomber man. Serious Sam four. I mean. We didn't hear about any of the sort of big name Games. We didn't hear about any of the promised features. That stadium supposed to have actually coming into fruition yet. and they say they're still some other exclusives that are coming from Harmonica supermassive uppercut. But those games were announced. So you know for one side like I said the the bumper. You'RE GONNA get hyped up and the Games don't live up to your expectations. Kind of real what to make of this Khalif. Is there any silver lining here with with stadium? What's going on with Google? You, are you muted? Yes I am. Into the Stadium Sections Khalif did what I do during tabletop time. was trying to hit the button second. Play the game at the same time as everything else, but it didn't go through. I mean interestingly enough when it comes to the conversation around the cloud right now and I know I know stadium still trying to figure out what it wants to do in the space in railway. Honestly like the the best thing that gives me any hope for them. Actually getting this thing into a good spot was when I had my demos of assassin's creed Valhalla and watchdogs legion a couple of weeks a couple week ago, maybe at this point. In the cloud, and it was fantastic. It worked amazingly well. It was something that I did not expect to do well in that space, it lends me to feel like stadiums still has some punches in its fight or in this fight, but it doesn't really know what is trying to hit and I think that's the problem is just that. They're continually trying to figure out how to market this thing to everybody in trying to figure out what angle they wanna hit the conversation around cloud, but you have to. I let everybody have something that they really excited about and I think that the games that they have coming later on like sure I'll play NBA Two K. Twenty one in the cloud like that's going to be cool, wants it actually happens, but I know what it felt like when I played this version of the game twenty. You know the twenty version. On stated in, it didn't feel good. You have to give me something. That is a carrot on the. And every time that carrot comes out. It's a little bit rotten. I don't want that. That's going to give. That's going to be giving me bubble guts I. Don't want that carrot. That's not going to be okay yeah. and. They just haven't figured out how they WANNA, speak about the things that they want to offer up to people, and then as soon as they speak about those things actually come through on the promises that they've given out so the people and once they do that and they'll be better off until then. It's like you keep telling me things that I can't believe. Is that because it technologies doesn't work because you haven't figured out exactly what you want me to have. Yeah Yeah. It's weird. You know if this was the. This slate of games that they were announcing for one low low monthly fee. Like Microsoft is doing I'd be like. Hey, this is pretty solid. Right? If I if I pay my my stadium fee and I get all these games. I get Sakho. WWe battleground. All these guests here is Sam and GonNa get Vonda and and cyberpunk when they land on this at the everything I. Get all of that for one low monthly fear or middling monthly fee even. Now we're talking now. It seems like Oh. This is a real competitor to xbox game pass. But the idea that. I have to buy all these games individually now I agree with you. What were they talking to right? Who's WHO's the person that tunes into a Google? CONNECT EVENT and hasn't already played these Games if they love these Games right if you love these games. You. Earn excited about playing these games. You've already played them somewhere. Because, they're out and they've been on for a long time. So who you talking to now if you're entire. Market strategy is to bring games to people that don't know they them. That's awesome, right? Okay, then now you need to change your messaging and say we're talking to people who don't normally tune in to Google connects to to e three type events right? We're talking to people who don't know that they would love these games and don't know how easy it is wouldn't buy a four hundred dollar console or a gaming. PC and didn't know they would love these games, but now because it's so easy, and you can play it on whatever device you already have, and it still looks cool looks like you're playing it on a console, but you're playing on your chromebook. Now I get it now I go okay. You're actually trying to expand the audience and you're talking to these people, but they're not doing that. They're not. They're not messaging that way we'll. The problem is in this I. Think this is the crux of really find themselves and I think this is a part of the marketing that they they never got right because he couldn't say it out loud, which was. The stadium has a situational device. It is. It is your second tier. I can't get into the room. That I want to get into in use the TV in the way that want or use eating away I want device right? The problem was this would have been perfect for the folks who traveled a lot for the folks. who had you know the the need? It's like if you had the the the everyone is in your house moment and you're like I need to get away like this great for that. And then covert hit shut everybody down and said you can't fly anywhere so all those business. Data on! You're not use IT I. It, but if my point is if they were doing that, that's what Microsoft is doing. They're saying. Hey, it's this thing that we're adding onto this thing. You already have right. It's like this added bonus of functionality. It's like Oh. You love these Games will. We might as well just let you play them wherever you want. Here's X. cloud bundled into the subscription. You already have that's to me. That's the messaging of of a convenience device, but but that's not the messaging that got me to buy it. The Messenger got me is it's like a billion computers strapped together? It's GonNa be better than any of the consoles because it's all the consul. That was the thing that they sold to me was. Not only is it convenient? It's actually going. We're leveraging the power of all these supercomputers and you're going to see stuff. That just isn't possible on anything else, and then I'm like. Take my money right, and then you had, but then you had a really big dude behind you. That word like a really tight shirt. Look like a bouncer and he's got a big comcast shirt behind you. He was he was fam- I heard you got all right here behind. You can't get into this club. He's like know the wrong shoes. Do you do it all of? US Stadium Four KS Got Focus for you. In any of these. For else. This madness. Yeah, problem with it, and because the way you described, it is unfortunately in my opinion, what the service has kind of become it's like. I need to escape screen. But if as jeff mentioned the way they were talking about it if it delivered games better than the xbox one x did. And they played as smoothly as they say they did. Then it. It does free up. These consoles from under my TV, and it keeps me from buying a five hundred dollar, PS, five, or whatever it is then it is truly Franken and I have the best experience on any screen. That's incredible. Unfortunately, I enjoyed playing destiny on stadia, but it's not as good as playing it on council. Pc Red dead doesn't look as good on Stadia. On xbox one acts so it can't. It became relegated to this other experience like the not ideal experience, because they can't deliver games the way that you're already playing them and of you mentioned these Games. They announced that they're connect aren't new. It's soup in. There are some new games, but not like things that you know. Bring the boys to the yard. You know what I mean like it's. It's hard to get excited in stoked for this stuff, and so if it was like day in day, game looks as good as PS. Four pro in xbox, one x These big games played anywhere. Even if I'm buying the game I'm down to do that I. Am I am down to do that, but it fails on all of those core principles in. It's super frustrating. I'm with you have mine filming. It meets look at it from time to time wistfully waiting for it to have relevance or give me a reason to pull out of the closet for sure I believe in Tech. The tech works. The tech is already working I've seen it in multiple places in multiple multiple. People doing that work, and this is so weird that Google as big as they are can't get that thing, right? It's so frustrating. Well he wouldn't be the first time that Google has. Done something like that, but. It doesn't it does boggle the mind all right? Let's let's talk about some of those games. You played that way and and other games that you are playing, but I wanNA. Thank our sponsor quit. Last night last night didn't realize that was sponsoring this week, but last night I swapped out my quip toothbrush brush head your quick tip. I quip tip who is other than official way. They talk about it because it should be if it's not TM. Tip. The the brush the my, I, love my quip, toothbrush and one of the things I love most about it is that I have a subscription to toothpaste battery brush head every three months as dentists recommend. Replace Your Toothbrush, right? 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We are going to talk ghost of Sushi Emma. We Are we, are we? Are we are? But before that Khalifa's here I know you've talked about this already. Because it happened a week ago, but we we were not able to play any of the new ubisoft stuff early and you have so. I'm excited to pick your brain because I'm in this horrible position. Of being very excited about assassin's creed Valhalla, but it comes out two days. Before cyberpunk, and so it's like it's like this. You know Sophie's choice of video. Games Tell me about we'll start with that one. Tell me about assassin's creed hollow. What was your hands on? Play what three hours of it is that right five hours five hours with you five hours of assassin's creed how it feels extremely good like so talking about the cloud. We got a chance to play that through. With a kind of remote. Desktop APP that you can do play kind of arcade games through, and you can get on other people's computers to it, so This was before he was in You did not say the word Stadia. Go ahead. It was not on Stadia. And it was such an interesting experience because it worked really well, and I honestly don't think that demos and in person events are going to be the same ever again because it works so well. Yeah, I mean this is the kind of thing where we would get invited to a room and you would walk in, and there'd be a bunch of computers set up a bunch of journalists and you'd go, and you'd sit down and you'd have your time. That's what we've been doing for the last decade. you know of and more really of covering video games. The this is this'll just better i. it's just better like why get a car. You don't need to fly anywhere. Extent like the that part of it is brilliant and shut us the USA for like figuring that bat that part out and like to be able to folks, but. ACV It just feels really good like you know you go in. You. Start kind of running through this one particular. Mission, where you kind of start off, you know climbing the rooftops, and you're going to the siege battle you can start off on on a big boat kind of Ram, your way through through the C- In and you, you crash against the rocks in the you kind of jump off the boat, and then you go into this one section where you have the like big battering. Ram and your team is kind of like rolling his batting around up a hill and you're going and. And knocking through people knocking through walls, and every time you get to wall, you have to stop and fight, and you have all the kind of trappings from an assassin's creed game, but it has this really dope. Of course we all know it's about Vikings and the Viking lander to it just feels really good in terms of the weapons that you have the the the the visceral way that you kind of have combat. It just feels so well made and that they've taken the time to. Dig into the Laura which they do really well with all these games by. Everything that you touch and feel kind of go through when you're going in space just feels like it's all really handcrafted in a way that makes it feel really special. You had a choice of you know. The main character's names Ivar me. Your choices of the female or male versions of the two I pick I pick the the latest version. I was my character. And I felt like. If you're thinking about picking up this game whenever it drops I would tell you to probably check out and make sure you're using lady Ivoire. For this one because she's just a bad ass to when I switched over to the dude, version of Ivar is voice didn't sound as cool. As Viking as lady I've always did not. has this like this really great gruff, and just like angry voice, and sounds like fantastic just to run through, and just be people over and do all the things you do. That's how I felt about Cassandra in in Odyssey to I was like I can't imagine playing the male version, but I guess news this week that in. The Khawla. You'll be able to switch back and forth on the fly like even in the middle of a save game you can switch back and forth. Should you choose? That's pretty cool. which was really smart? Because that was the thing I didn't I didn't like from the previous version was the fact that I had picked lady. Lady Cassandra to be my character anyway, because just going to pick her to to go in. But I want to check out and see what the dude version was, and you'd have to start all over again, and this can literally just swap fly. It's crazy. Drop off right where you're right. Were you were a minute felt good. A lot of really cool super moves in there for the new characters like I remember going and bouncing from one fight to another fight after my axes, and through one dudes chest, and then spun around and hit this other guy with a spear that I found on the ground, and it was like really dynamic in the way that you. Kinda went through the fight. And then moving forward one of the coolest parts about the game because I love many games inside other games. and. They had these really really dope Mini Games one was drinking gang. Of course kind of have to have that in a story, right? which led to some entanglement, she'd been paying attention to the Will Smith Jada Pinkett. Story. So, some Tengelmann in the demo, which was fantastic. And really well done. Actually, it was actually really classes classy the way that they did that. But then they also had this section that was called Kearns. Probably mispronouncing that basically, if you've ever seen on Instagram, folks who go to the river and stack rocks on top of each other, and they know yeah. Yeah, we're a little totems of rocks are kind of put together is a mini game. You just do that and it was weirdly peaceful. It was kind of great. It was like Jenga, reversing against of pulling things out putting stuff on top and stacking and challenge to it. It wasn't it wasn't just you know. Actually. o-. On them, so you have to kind of figure out and balance them and spin them in a way and place them so that you can actually balanced each other. And my favorite mini game was something that had heard about right when they first talked about the game. And I looked it up and I was like what is flighting. Familiar with flying flighting. No, yes, so flighting from the way that I read from Wikipedia the best place to get all your information. was. Vikings enduring the time that they were around. They had this this act that they would do with. They would basically battle rap each other, but in pros. So it was basically. Viking battle rap. In the game? Oh my Gosh! Cre- precursor to actually we hip hop music, but it was like a thing that I was really just like I had to look that thing I went down to deep rabbit hole on Youtube was trying to figure out. People were doing flight instead. Of Insults, it's a series of insults. It's like Yo Momma jokes. Your Momma jokes? In the time of Vikings and it's not great. But. It was pretty good in the way that they kind of added that layer to to the game and I think it's going to be pretty cool when when it winds up coming out, so combat again felt extremely polished. Am really excited to learn about the actual world that they're going to build around these characters because the stuff that they're trying to do. Some stuff that I can't say. Is Really. Really Fun stuff for sure. Did you try to do wielding stuff? Yes, the do building stuff was really good. Actually I was actually surprised at how well that stuff felt? Like weirdly like nothing's tout is the fact that you can use to shields, yeah. You can fight with two shields. It's fantastic. The building felt really good like. I think what I use I had like a kind of short axe. And then I had like a longer like a mace that I was using kind of. That way, which which was pretty cool. None of it felt really awkward or didn't feel like it animated well, or although some kind of. Fit. The character to which I thought was really interesting. The one thing that I did Think of a lot was I. am not a big witcher fan. but this felt like the best mash up of a witch game in an and a screen game. Yeah, like direction. They're going now. You know it's like that's really what the the games trying to make. Which I love I I am a fan of the witcher, so that's why I like this this franchise now. It's going to be really cool. I again! I think that folks who are coming into this thing and having that expectation to feel like they wanted that good mash up. They're gonNA. Get exactly what they thought they were going to get with this game and and it felt fantastic, and there's probably a think, also some boat. battle stuff in there, too. Oh my gender! We get a chance to check that out. man I it does sound like it's more of the same but me. The same is something I really really loved so I'm excited man. I'm excited and you said the siege stuff worked well. It's it felt interesting and not sort of tedious. I mean some of that some of that in a video game like that big third person action game sometimes. I think of like Lord of the Rings Games Games. Where you're supposed to be on a big tapestry of action, and there's a lot of ai doing things, and sometimes it's just can feel like more of a nuisance than anything else. Did you get a sense that it felt big and huge in cool and impact for and it just feel like. You know just a different background for the same stuff. I mean it's too hard to kind of early to tell to be honest when it comes to that, part lake. I the thing that I came away thinking in really wondering was of course the conversation around like why you are a assassin in how you kind of linked to the lineage of the other assassins is the thing that makes that game in that story really cool. It's the thing that we really get a chance to see within the demo that we had Sherwood. It was also one of those things where you know. She's walking around with this. This wrist blade and no one is paying attention it like no one is remarking about it. No one's like Oh. Yeah, this thing that nobody else has that I've not seen anybody else as as Viking us, but you just have this really cool weapon that you want run around and Schenk people. People with like I want to see how the link in an ad that layer to the story. which is going to be the the the more interesting part, and also like the way that they do the base buildings, so you have like this one It's a part of the game mechanic where you have this like many town that you that you cultivate, and you grow and they have a mode kind of seems to play directly into that by giving you resources or you basically taking resources, and in building your your homeland, or you're kind of like safe space. With those resources so. That's GonNa be that's GonNa be interesting to see how you to build that up over time to try. What you get from that! Really different elements the game. Excited you also got a chance to play watchdogs. Legion Sarah Wash Lesion, the joint that is. Yes washes lesion. Is I came away with about that than Valhalla. Wow, by phone you. A fan of the watchdog games previously wash. It looks to yes wash one. No okay but wash looks to. Where they were going and was really on board with them to like fleas built us out into a bigger and better. Were I remember when I got a chance to? Interview Clint hocking back at East three. WHO's created director on the game? You know the conversation about being anyone in the world was something I kind of just like a through my hands. It was like yeah, whatever this this is going to be some really like wrote thing you really get to be like two people, and they all have the same look, and it's going to be the same character basically, but they are really going in on the like. You can be anyone in the game so. For, so one of the missions you start off as bobby as a as a as a British COP, right, yeah! And you go into. As the. Like the cops in the kind of paramilitary organization has grown itself, and it's kind of taken over. Do the do the taking care of the city parts of the game? and My playthrough had this one character come out of the building that I then surveilled looked at what they were going to do for that day, and then went through the list of missions that would let that person then joined dead set. Which is my team? It took me a couple of different missions where it had to infiltrate become a part of the kind of environment by being a character would kind of be in that spot anyway, so removed to a construction site in a had a person who was a construction worker in my group, I then changed to that person infiltrated into that spot, and and the trappings of that character come along with the kind of occupation as you had so that that character for our weapon had a nail gun a wrench because their construction worker. So I'm like? Around should work, can use a gun. I mean Bill. Only works. Right is like what is. He has a two by four in your pocket or you just have to play one of those things, but it, but it show lake. Each one of the characters that I used not only had their own versions of Lore, but they had reasons for being in the world, and they had their own lives, and they had their own. You know things that they would do. and then going into those story beats to try to get this one person to be on my team. It just felt like the possibilities of building out what is going to wind up being my dead sex squad is GonNa be really fun, because then. I get you pick not only based on need but I also get to pick based on. Aesthetic kind of to a certain extent. It's like Oh this kid is a punk kid who has a Mohawk and he looks really cool. He has some hacking abilities, and he does all this other stuff, or you know this one young woman, a spy who comes with her own. You Know Rocket Laden car You know it's like all these weird legs. It's kind of like you know kind of the stereotype of the genre of whatever game you wanted to have. You have all the people in it and all folks have their special abilities, but I think what. It's GonNa wind up doing. Is that same conversation that you always have about like? My game is very different than your game. And whatever you did to get. Emission done is very different than what I got to do. In my mission, those stories are going to be the things that drive conversation around this game being like Yo Jeff. How did you get through this one mission? Oh wildly different because the tools that we have at our disposal at the given time of doing that mission were wildly different. Yeah, I remember I had. This is from my previous, not even when they just went through. one of my characters. You don't die. Your characters die so these get knocked out for a period of time. So I lost one character. He got shot. Recipes construction dude. And then I had a doctor on my team in that doctor, then because that person was in my squad, they revived faster. They came back faster because I had a doctor. My team at one character, who had a gambling debt and I was a cop at that part of part of the game I went into the police station, and remove their their previous record out of the device, and then those files were able to be a part of my team where they had more affinity towards what I was trying to do for them. So many cooler interlocking systems that they're that they're putting into that game where you're really paying attention to not only who you want in your squad, but how you grow those relationships with them to get them onto your team That's really intricate. It's like literally Jeff goes to the store to to afternoon Oh. There's a mission that the store at two o'clock in the afternoon in Gametime. It's cool. Stuff is the first time I've I've had any interest in this game. And did your your discussion of it is making me interested for the first time. It almost sounds to me like more like a real time strategy game you know more like something like command and conquer or starcraft where you have these units, and you can decide which units you want to use in your army right now. It feels it feels more like a God game than a traditional third person action game. In his only small little intricacies that go along with your characters in how you kind of want to build them out, and then you know just just the way you want to tackle situation. If you have enough folks in your squad, you can find ways to do that in a really comprehensive way that was. That's just so cool I want one really. Really. Quick thing really fast is. There was a part where I had. Finally gotten that character, who was a part of the major corporations called out in the game. Infiltrated again when into into the building, I'm now a COP. WHO's in that section of the of the world? I was able to Go through the base handcuff everybody. They got on the ground and actually I couldn't do anything. They were apprehended by me. Then there was a camera system that I jumped through that you could do in the previous games and I was able to hack into a plane. From one of the terminals in basically. A story be to come back to a place that I'd be able to infiltrate so basically as a person on a plane that was going to a prison. I basically rerouted that plane. Go back to another place where you can go. Get the person off that plane. In the in story, but not in physical spaghetti, you could go into the cockpit through the cameras in the plane, and then somewhere down the line that person now is now you know on the ground somewhere else in the world, and then the person who was trying to have more finnity with saw that that thing happened and gave me. Kudos for it and became cool with me during team. Cool stuff man, Lake. They're working on, so it really does seem like things that you've never really done in a game before these the interpersonal relationships in like yeah. You know this rube. Goldberg machine of. Of. Interlocking Parts Christian I. Know You have been pretty uninterested in this game hearing cleave talk about watchdogs legion. The same effect timing for me where I'm like now I'm interested. Unfortunately no I find I. Mean I have not played it, so you know who knows how that will will change for me, but I feel like it. It seems like the act of playing still very much the same. Kind of a standard ubisoft experience, and my biggest fear as I think I mentioned that maybe a couple of episodes ago from what really brings me to game like narrative. And like point of view I i. I think I read this somewhere. Also someone else describing this, maybe twitter I forget but like. WHO's my protagonist like? I kind of like to fall into a person whether that's me as like an RPG and I create this character of at I, then fall in love with want to play experience their world, or it's a you know, jol, or you know master, chief, or whomever right, and like have this experience with this person and my fear is for this game that I won't ever be attached to anyone in. It will just kind of be like metal gear solid VR missions. Complete this thing and that has never been the type of thing that truly excites me I'll go back to the our missions, because I fell in love assault snake, and I want to play you know more experiences in that world, but just checking things off of a big open world map. Isn't what what gets me excited about a game, but this was on the subject for a while. You know with Legion in then Vol Khawla. UBISOFT has a stack games coming out and you play plus is a heck of a way to play them for cheap. That's why played breakpoint, and then I canceled my sub when I fell out of that game. So I'm certain that I will play watchdog legion, but I'm afraid it's going to be more of A. A map go do stuff than it is a game that that pulls me back into it wanting to see the story through. Enough! Well, lots of exciting stuff and let's let's transition now and talk about a game. Three of us have played this week and that is ghost of Sushi Ma. The the really the big release of the week at least for the playstation platform are this is sucker punches new game a game I certainly have been very excited about since I, first saw it debuted low those many years ago. and. Let's start with you, Khalif. What's your take on goes to Sushila? ooh! SOCIA is like. It is the most beautiful game I've seen in probably two generations. I'd have to say like early. Last of us. Oh, yeah, by far now I mean and not love last of us to in less of us one like I think those two games are high water marks in lots of different ways and. A fantastic part of the series those three games, but I think like this. From an aesthetic standpoint, they have nailed lighting in a way that I've never seen done on console. Lighten. I played it, and finished it and went through the whole process of reviewing it us on our youtube channel now, but it's like one of those things where. When I come away from the game besides its beauty, and it's and it's kind of you know. Take on Lower and Japanese Japanese, Laura especially. I came from the game board. Out of my mind. I was so bored out of that game like that game is fantastic to look at, but it's not that great to play. Characters of forgettable. The combat felt super repetitive. The camera is not great in in lots of different ways, because of getting caught are tracking you behind stuff. When you're trying to fight hordes of people. so it's it's a weird game because punch does such a fantastic job at making really great, big world or kind of stories that kind of look into that space. But what they? They just missed some really fundamental things within this game that they could have gotten right. and. It feels like the things that they try to do. That are the touchstones of what game was supposed to be so like the conversation that was always there from at least my recollection was. Your character is always trying to balance out this like honor system that you have as a Samurai and then you deviating from that under the kind of Monica Ghost right right and it never feels like in time. That I played it that any of the cool ghost stuff that you wind up doing even though that's supposed to be not greatly. You're not supposed to do because that's where you're is supposed to be removed from you. It never feels like you get punished for any of that stuff. So you use it and it's fantastic. Ingrate and I think honestly is probably the better parts of the game, but you don't get knocked in a narrative sense. You don't get knocked in a way that makes you have to think about ever really engaging with it in a way besides racking up more ability points And I think the the problem with all. That is just like their layers through. That could have been so cool. and even small things like they have this really doke mechanic that's. That's kind of like a standoff mechanic, so it's part of your your your honor code is like you never fight someone from behind. You're always looking them in the eye when you when you when you go after them and you kill, them. And it's basically like when I was growing up in the hood, and we would call each other out from from the from the project window. We'd like yeah you outside I'm outside to you. Come downstairs, Yo cadets. There is about to fight you. And it's like all right so like when you I do that. It feels cool because you're like I am a Samurai. I'm a bad ass. I'm about to take on. All these people know about the beat them up. And, then after doer for the seventh time, it doesn't feel cool anymore, and they gave you enough things that it makes you a more competent fighter, but it doesn't make you more skilled fighter, which I think is the problem because the whole thing about that game is like Samurai fights, and the you know the curious how mode and all those things like supposed to bring you closer to this battle. That's supposed to be this one on one mono mono thing. And it doesn't feel like that when you actually get into fights besides the duals which are really well done. Having the dual systems, not the ones where you're kind of like the standoff, but the ones we have in the one on one fights with other characters. Those feel fantastic because you're really going and doing that dance of like all right. What style do I need to use battle against what this person just did. Is Person Just change their stance? Oh, I need to figure out a way to combat that. But. It didn't feel like that in the moment to moment parts of the actual game. Yeah just to be clear with the audience. If if anybody listening isn't aware of of the different sort of layers that cleaves talking about, you know, there's a big open world fight where you get into fights with enemies as you would in any open world, third, person action game. But. There's a standoff mechanic where you literally hold down the triangle button and it's it's like who's GonNa Flinch I. Wait until the moment that your enemy starts coming at you to release the triangle button, and then you can just one hit kill, but the enemies starts to do things like kind of fain that they're going to attack, and there's some little complications that start to arise. It gets a little more complicated than just waiting a second letting go, and there were a couple of times where I missed it right I let it go, and they weren't attacking me or the faked. Whatever so you know, it is kind of NEAT. Neat and something I've never seen in a game before, and then there's the other layer as cliff was referring to of these duels, which are much more like boss battles, where the the whole perspective of the game changes you get much more much closer to the characters. There's a big health bar for your enemy. Yeah, it, it's much more intense and there are these big moments of of fighting in the the fights are longer and protracted feels like a boss fight, so those are the levels. Yeah, right, right right and I just I just wish that the layers that they they put into the game. That were really really fun. You got more of that. This would be a perfect game if it wasn't an open world game. This is that classic. Is this tight twelve to fifteen hours story there should be brilliant. But, if, but because you make it so big, you add all these extra layers, and you put all these folks in the in in the story that don't really have consequence. And I'm just like. Why would you do that? You don't need them. They don't need that stuff to do the thing that you're trying to do. So, people got mad at me. Review. People not happy with me because I was like. This is a two out of five game in my mind, they were like what are you talking about Khalif Atoms? Well I have to be honest. I'm I'm much more on your side. than than I think Christian side, but I want to hear what Christian has to say because I think Christian you. You are much beer fan of this game neither of us. Yeah. I'm at the seven to ten hour mark so cliff. You said you've finished it for review for context I at. That's where I am in the game I started playing it. Thursday release and. Before I start I will say it is an open world game right? If you do not like open World Games I, do not think this game will change your mind. I've pet many of Fox to get experience. What's this to Fox Great? It is that it is that it doesn't reinvent that. It does what a lot of the best in class of that do. But it doesn't feel like it brings tons new in terms of that open worldliness of that. With that said I absolutely love this game I am in love with it I enjoy playing it I started from the very beginning in one mode, and I have not the only time I've seen. This game in color is on twitter or trailer never has graced my screen, not in A. Mode and I'm just embracing it for the entire play through. I think it is making it a little more difficult like there's a very early mission where it's like I think it's a mission, not an optional thing, but it's like explode. You've to explode these barrels and I was like. Where are these barrel as? ENTER THE RED ONES! Oh, earn it. One of the types of enemies like when they glint blue do this and I'm like well, not GonNa Glint Blue for me. You know I got I. got to figure out what this is. Someone in chat says wait till after find certain color of flowers. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that will happen But I! I am just awestruck by the beauty of the presentation in the way that I am playing it. And it feels. It seems silly. Perhaps that just a color shift and default Japanese a voiceover I. Do wish lip sync match voice over. And like the little warped perspective in like the sound the way they changed the sound, and it's super windy in this mode, and like the all the changes. They went into it to make it. Feel as it pretty windy and every mode this game. I only work out the changes. And they said that they upped the wind, even more grocer mode, but like the changes they made to get the blessing of the family and do this. It it to me. Really elevates the game from what might be another very good open world game to something that I just WanNa, get lost in and just walk around and experience I think. I don't know if he's still call it cinematography and video games or not but. Moments. Were I'm playing like a UBISOFT Game Demo? Like walking and panning the camera up to see the light coming through these trees, and it's absolutely stunning and I feel like I am. This person in this world experiencing it as it comes to me I love the wind at my back mechanic, and how that kind of rolls into the story in in feels personal and important, and I'm not. Just trying jump from place to place. I'm playing on a bass. PS Four. The load times have been incredible. Fast travel is never a hinder if I want to use it but I also find myself wanting to be on my horse in exploring. You know this island in this land, and I like the way it's not. I'm sure I'm sure the I'm sure the load times are lower for you because it doesn't have to load any color. Probably. And I love the way it doesn't have to A. Following the wind is not like a yellow lion on the ground like a follow the window. That's a mountain. Okay I'M GONNA. Go around this thing a little bit and you kind of feel my way through this world, and in in an environment that I haven't played a lot of games I think is another thing that makes it feel fresh and fun and invigorating, and I think as open world. Games go I think it does a really good job for passing the Derek coinate the Spicer test of open world games where it's like you must save the world from dying or open this popcorn. Stand in, generate money from popcorn like. What am I doing this game? And again I'm seven to ten hours in, but like it opens a big vaguely it opens. You know there's a thing in your life and the character to do this thing and then. No you know like the character had the same motivation that I. would have like I'm going to go take care of this and I think the game, very. Correctly within its narrative allows that thing not to be taken care of in that manner in that way at that time, and so now I'm open world ing to allow myself to be able to take care of this thing like yes, again putting Fox's and there's that open road in this stuff, but a lot of these. Missions that I'm going off on now, make sense for my larger purpose what I'm trying to do, and I also think the way they positioned. The Samurai Code is like. I am a character who is going to help these people. That is what I'm going to do I. Know My ultimate mission in what it is but I am going to do this thing for twenty minutes because that's who I am. That's the type of person I. Am. As they look to me for. It's important for me to go do this and then I love I love the combat. It feels different than oh I should also back up and say. I did not put one hundred and twenty hours into assassin's creed, origin or Odyssey I played more origins did Odyssey but I put a decent amount of time into both but But not tons I'm not I. Don't have this open world, fatigue or sameness kind of thing that might that others might but my recollection of both origins and Odyssey. The combat in Ghost seems different to me. Where if I'm skilled and I play it right. I, can most through you know five to seven enemies very quickly in also might be that I'm playing with a back paddle on my ps. Four Controller, and so I have that set to triangle and square I'm trying to think of reasons why I love this game more than I think. Other of my peers seemed to so maybe to that that mechanic of using my. Back fingers on the controller makes the combat feel different, somehow but the timing and the rhythm of it. And the animation the movements when you break a guard ending like light heavy on somebody, in C like the weight of my character, moving through the world before finishing somebody off to turn and spin and be ready for the next attack it it's it's incredible i. I can't stop thinking about the game. The photo mode is phenomenal all the options in the amount of times I'm capturing video to make a Gif out of just to keep in. Look at on my phone Yeah really blown away. I am probably main lining things. A little more than than others would like I said I'm not a look at the map. Look at all the boxes I can do go do them all kind of person i. let kind of curiosity. Take me where it takes me, but I'm. On my way to a mission, you know I'm not. GonNa Knock. Should be like. Let's wander the world for two hours. It's like no, I'm going here. Let's see what's between me and here and if it's interesting enough. But I I think I think they did a lot right and. The other thing that I will say as maybe a caveat for am really enjoying it. I was fortunate to play the last of his part, too. Early Right. and since I finished that game I've been struggling to find a game that I could fall in love with and. You know it's. It's been awhile right like I got to finish. Last of US are too early and I played games, but. That game last of US partout had such an impact on me that other things kind of just like yeah I'll play this hour. I'll dive into. This is a bit of an. Maybe it's been long enough now or maybe Chris Mode. Bakes it feel different enough, but I'm all in. I'm all in on this game and. You know. I love you both, but I kind of wish I was playing. On his anniversary, no less. No less we connected for me and I think I liked the way the combat assassin's creed for me. Maybe this will change in Ghost as I get further, but like assassins creed kind of Mash my way through the combat are became pretty Ok p, and I still feel like I'm planning and using my ghost techniques and trying to triage, a large group of people to like US terrain to get distance between me and somebody else to then circle back around and take them down. Yeah I. Think Criticisms of it are fair and valid, but it's really connected for me in in a way that I am really enjoying my time with it and I. I highly recommend it. I'm really glad to hear that. You like it so much I am. I wish I did I. Really was so excited for this game. A huge fan of sucker punch the infamous games. I think are hugely underrated and I was so excited for them to kind of. That take that next step. Take that next step and become a real top tier AAA, developer that everybody was was noticing and watching and I thought this franchise would do it, and maybe it is maybe it will do it. Maybe it is doing it, but. I can't help but feel like. It really wants to be assassin's creed, and just doesn't have the Polish of assassin's creed for me. I I respect everything you said Christian I'm super. Glad you're having that experience I. Wish I was having that experience. I am not playing. Chris Alamo. I don't even agree one hundred percent with a Kleesset about how beautiful the game has. I think it has certainly has moments of beauty. Unbelievable beauty and the lighting in particular is great. I mean like all Samurai movies. Everything that happens in this game happens at sunset or A full moon out you know it, which is awesome right I love embracing that aesthetic, and the the tone and feeling just they're leaning all the way into the Samurai movie, which is great I, mean that's great. I've been wanting I've been predicting a Samurai A feudal Japan set assassin's creed for years thinking that that. was going to do that. And this is that game and a lot of ways right? This is futile the the the Samarai version of assassin's creed. I just don't think it has the Polish of an assassin's creed There are a lot of moments where the the animations were just wonky and weird I can only climb things where there's you know these very notable hand marks. I can't climb everything like a cannon assassin's creed. Those are minor nitpicks right, but. Does so much of the game just feels a little cookie cutter, and not full of identity and character and. Uniqueness that I felt like sucker punch would bring to this. And while the combat I, think is really Kinda cool like I did the standoff. I, did the duals. I think the fact that it leans into the fact that you're Samurai. You'RE NOT GONNA be. Somebody four, Hundred Times with Your Samurai Sword. You GonNa. Come twice, and they're GONNA be dead. You know I think that. I love that it leans into that at least early on little later. You know enemies get tougher. You have to smack more times if you don't upgrade your swords, but but I like that I think it's cool that things are deadly, and that you can die in a couple of hits to i. e know you're constantly. Tapping your health to to get through fights at least I was are not for dying. which I like I feel like I'm back pretty close to where I wasn't encounter. Load Times. I think they handle that really well. I agree but the. I feel like some of it is a missed opportunity I. think the the items and things that you begin to open up and get bigger repertoire of moves makes things interesting. You know sticky bombs and smoke bombs, and and all kinds of cool Ninja stuff that you get is cool, but you know the game gimmicks such a big deal about opening up these different stances and I was so excited about that as you know you get these samurais stances, but it becomes the sort of I. Think kind of tepid rock paper scissors. Thing where it's like okay. A Guy with a shield I get into that Stan water stance whatever it is. A Guy, the guy with spears I get into spear Stansky thing you know. It just becomes very wrote, and even when I'm in another stance. Nothing I do is different. I'm just in that stance now. You know I'm not actually. Do you know I'm not actually doing anything any differently I'm not. He's not performing the moves in any different way that doesn't change up how I play, and I think it could've been could've been really cool like you change a stance and all of a sudden you're. You're playing the game in a different way, but it just doesn't do that. It's just this kind of aesthetic change that you have to. To don't have to, but you need to do to be more efficient and taking down a specific kind of Faux. It just felt like a half step towards something interesting, and then the rest the game just feels kind of clunky like I would go up behind someone to assassinate them, and they'd be crouched down and I would add prestige SAS nate button, and they'd stand up so that the animation of assassinating them which evidently is only happens. You're standing up would happen it. It's like. They're being very obliging to me to stand up, so I can assassinate them. If that kind of thing where it's just all feels a little. Under baked, you know and. The wind as a directional marker thing is such a cool idea on paper, and I feel like it's one of those things where the developers had this awesome idea to make the whole world full of. You, know high plants and and weeds and wheats in flowers and stuff that move in the wind, and all of that is Very Samurai movie beautiful. You know leaves, falling off big red, golden trees or pink trees. All of that aesthetically is really cool, and yes wind, and all of that visual is neat and they went. What if we made the wind? You show you the way. An on paper I was like. The coolest thing ever it's keep your eyes on the game. You don't have to look at a mini map. AWESOME AWESOME! except. I feel like they got to the point where they're like. This really doesn't work. It's super confusing, but they had. Pot committed to it already. You know they're just like okay what we'll do. We'll just draw big wind lines on the screen will just put drop big goofy wind lines. The show you the direction to go, and that'll be clear. It just feels like the most. UNSATISFYING, solution! All the wind moves through the trees. And you see which way you Kinda can't really tell like okay. We'll put giant cartoonish wind lines pointing in the right direction for you. It's kind of defeats the whole purpose, and it just felt like one of those things. Where if they really? been critical of their own work, they would have just taken that out and come up with a different solution or revised it some other way and it just like this was such a core design element that they just shoehorned it in instead of making it elegant, and and that kind of bums me out He had the whole. The whole game has so much potential. I love. I Love Samurai movies. I love this aesthetic I love the setting I think the voice acting is cool I. Think some of the story almonds are really compelling. And you know the first time you fight someone. The Moon is setting, and you get into a duel and the you know you. Take your sort out in the lead. Kick up! It's all so cool, and then you finish a mission. You're standing next to your horse, and there's the cool. You know Japanese language symbol, and it dissolves in a in dust, and it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just the playing of the game. I had to keep. Forcing myself to go go back to it. And I actually went back loaded up. Off because I'm like, am I just like building that game up to high in my brain in in comparison I'm so curious cliff having played Khawla really close to when you were playing this game. How that comparison is for you because. I felt like this game wanted to be assassin screen. It just didn't have what I love about these late assassin's creed games, and that is this feeling of being completely improvisational all the time where all the systems are interacting in the world. None of them feel like okay. I'm doing this system now and now doing this system. It was all you know all at the same time I was going in and out of stealth, and in and out of missions in taking down giant Ford's and in. This game and goes to Suma Get into a mission, or what they call a tale I think it's called tale run. And, if I wandered too far off the path or like, get back on the path or you fail. Right which I hate, I hate that in the games I just it just bums me out so much, and it just doesn't feel like the whole of the tapestry of what makes up the content of this big open world game overlaps. It just feels like okay now. I'm doing this bamboo thing and I need to do these certain button presses, and now I'm writing a Haiku and other cool in and of itself it just doesn't add up to a unified expression to me. Feels like the assassin's creed games like I'm. You know. I'm I'm having a fight? And then Oh, my Gosh! One of the other assassins is coming at me from the you know this other system that is in the game or the assassins will like. Show up if you're if you're notoriety gets too high, and then all my gosh don't have to deal with that. In addition of this thing that I'm trying to do and I'm trying to finish this mission just. It all seems cohesive in those games to me. If a lot of stuff that when I think about where they could have gone with the next layer, I'm like ooh. If you would have just done this or added this yet removed at other things, because like you go through the game, and you wind up getting these kind of like mini parks that you that you equipped to your your character. And you go through that game equipping all the stuff. That really doesn't change that much to the way that you actually do anything. There was one that was very very fundamentally like. If I didn't have that one. It would have made my game. Play a lot harder, but for the most part you're doing a lot of this stuff and going through these kind of side missions in the rewards Dragila for them. Don't feel consequential. And I would say in terms of like comparing it to assassin's creed. It is assassin's creed assassin's creed to yeah, Oh yeah. But it's not assassin's creed origin, and again like it doesn't need to be assassins. Creed doesn't need to be in that space, but like when I think of what this game is. That's what that game is to me. As an AC, two game, and you know what that game was, which was eight unpolished needed to be refined game that they wind up getting better five games later. This will to I and listen. That's not to take away any any of Christians. I'm super glad that you're loving the game as much as you are. But it's interesting CLEEF. You're the first time it's. It should have occurred to me. It didn't even cross my mind, but. Hearing. You say it was the first time I'd heard anybody say I wish this game. Just been a sort of a linear game I kind of feeling man if it had been. This linear tale of a Samurai and a cookout, all of the open world he stuff. It could have been something really special and I feel like he just gets bogged down in its. If it collapses under the weight of all the extra stuff that it layers on that I don't think makes the game better. It's weird because this game if it was enter the Dragon. Would have been a phenomenal game and they try to make this game, too many things at once when it really needed to be something that was fairly simple in terms of its story. Can sprinkle in the other you know additional folks into it in a way. That fell comprehensive and made it feel good, but like if I wanted the revenge story that you know, some of this game is to a certain extent. Very could have figured out a way to do that in a in a really smart way. That felt like you were getting. The story beats in that the people that you met during your your troop to wherever you're going to go. would be something that felt like. Really good in the way that last of us, did you like? I know what I'm going to go? Do Yeah I. Don't know how I'm going to get there, but I know what the end result I'm trying to get to. I know what the feeling is that I'm trying to feel yeah. Uncharted or a tomb raider, or you know one of those a to be the CD Games. Killing a really cool story, and giving you all these interesting. Yeah. I don't know it may be but Christian sounds like you're kind of more playing it that way. Actually you're kind of mean. Lining it more. Potentially that's how I play open world. Games in general like I said big map with a bunch of question marks are. Added About Games I want to be pulled through so far. This game has is pulling me through. You know really well, and I wonder if the game needed to just only do. Chris are remote like that, was it? You know interesting. I, said I I I do not plan on experiencing it any other way and I wonder if that's just elevating it for me, and making feel different than a game that I played a thousand times before it. Certainly Games have had black and white modes uncharted four had a whole bunch of stuff you know a lot of it could be unlocked after, but just diving in playing it this way for the first time I feel like I'm living in this. The Samurai film in this movie and the experiences is is just exquisite, but also you know thousands creek didn't connect with me like Odyssey I I liked, but it felt a little cartoony in over the top in I thought those narrative beats were a little silly, and those NPC's the or giving you missions I I didn't really like many of those characters they were knowing annoying and obnoxious, and some of those side missions were felt superfluous to me, and not really in my journey as a character so to me, I think matters a lot, if I buy into that hero story in that character's journey and ghost of Sushi Mez is doing that I really bought into the story and the journey, and what I'm doing in this life. I'm living as this character and Odyssey didn't click for me, but if said this in the chat I think the best thing about games is that we are all right, you know. Sure yeah of course. Opinions. And and you know everyone. I'm excited to hear you talk more about it as you as you continue through it I'm I'm super. Glad you're loving and you're. You're not alone. Voice here. Your loan voice on this show, but a lot of people are have been loving i. mean getting great scores and people are really digging the game as well also. I'm I think it's completely valid your position i. don't mean to take anything away from it. Let's talk a little bit more about some of the other games. You've been playing because I know. You've got some other choice. Picks here. What else you got on your playlist? I've been playing super hot. Mind control delete. Yeah is fantastic You're a fan of the original Super Hot VR game. This is not a VR game. It is a stand alone. experience that is not DLC as well. It is by its own self game. It's really cool like it just plays on that aesthetic so well. In throws a couple of loops here and there for you as the player which I found to be really fun experiencing kind of blind, and it was a streaming. It hadn't played any of it until I got on the Stream. And It was just taken aback. The Connecticut feel of all right. I'm going to go punch this dude. Shoot this guy this with a bat. It was fantastic am and. Great concept that game. Oh, so so good so I'm playing a bunch of that I've been digging into my paragon bag again. So if you're familiar with paragon, the the now not hearing dead in the water game from epic which was a third person Moba, house a huge fan of that for a very long time. That was my go to bed game for a while. A couple of folks, a couple of teams out at all those assets have been given up for free by epic has decided to try to make their own games in the same vein and I've been playing one called predecessor, which is right now I would say the closest to what paragon was when it was alive. and I'm digging it because one. It's making me play with housing keys, mouse and keyboard. Because, I play on PC with a with a controller, mostly because I'm a script. It just feels really nice to be back in that space where that game play in those characters in that map it all coming back to me I'm like Oh, I know which lane I'm GonNa. Go to and know which things I'm going to pick. Understand which ways of my character is gonNA work, and I missed that game so much. I love in. This is a fan created. Ver Basically version of paragon with the same assets. So so they EPA gave the assets of for free said anyone can use these assets whichever way you want. And in a couple of teams is actually like four different teams. Making four different games won a battle chess game. With three of them are Mogas and then they're all kinds of like trying to figure out and battle out to see who's going to get their game made I I'll while also trying to figure out ways to differentiate themselves from each other. Yeah, using the same assets the same kind of map. It's super wild. It's but it's it's really I. appreciate the fact that we have all these teams really small ones to. Trying to build a game that they love that that that got taken off the store because it was just not doing the sales that was supposed to do so, and there's enough people playing it that you games with other humans. Of I mean. kind of like Alpha. Stage both. So you'll get kicked out of a match even when about to fill up or you know sometimes it'll crash on. You stuff like that, but. I think in the Times that I've played it. You know the yesterday because I actually jumped on the yesterday for the first time. I. Got Matches Pretty Much. Every time that I jumped in there were a couple that that crapped out, but for the most part I was able to get matches with different people to which I thought was interesting. I was like oh other. People are jumping on this, plus they're giving out a bunch of Beta. Keys Alpha keys at this point now, trying to get more people into their so that's been great. And I just fired up districting on pc today. For the first time you can, you can see all my tweets. About can't get this thing to spend my two monitors. What's going on? Interesting. It'll do. It won't fill out the whole screen which makes me WanNa wide screen monitor because I've been in the market for a big wide screen. Yeah, Babe, I want one so bad. Man Game so pretty. When you start the whole when you start the beginning of the game in the music hits, and you're like walking out for first time. Oh Man. This is what I don't understand what you said about go. Sushi might like is Pretty I. Agree but I don't think it holds a candle to last of us to death stranding for that matter. No, it doesn't like I think. In terms of the of the ranking of how pretty are how well the Games look I think. What makes last of US Beautiful? Is that the level of detail in which they kind of place things in the world to make it feel lived in to make it feel like an entity of in and of itself. Is a testament to just what naughty dog is able to do I. think that they continue to be the high water mark for for all those things yeah. In lots of different ways I think Shema though. Again like what they did with lighting alone. Lay. I mean especially because I'm a big photo photo mode person to yeah like I love photo modes and I spent so much time in for the mode in that game. When you nail that stuff like those things to me are what make it really really a part of what that is? That's strengthening. Its own aesthetic is the vastness of it like I. Don't think it's because it's like at the intricate level where you're looking down at the ground. You're like damnest. Dirt looks good dirt like no one's doing that. But I think it's like Dan. These mountains look good against this river against these rocks against this background. I will take I. Don't know I think the cinematography of goes to sue is is beautiful and the idea of always at dusk, and you know the leaves moving, and all that stuff is all beautiful, and I'm not trying to take anything away from that level of it. Think purely from a like. Wow, this doesn't look. I could even be done on a PS four. That's the feeling I had. When I played last of us to and the feeling I had when I play stranding like is just like I can't believe a PS. Four is doing this. I do not feel that way about Gusta Sushila. This though I, even though I did not care for the game itself, I am dying to see what looks like on a PS five. Right now I don't think. It's GonNa look like mad. I hope they can throw a throw a switch and make retracing happened in that game because Oh my goodness. It's going to be nuts, but I have also been playing on PC and allow me to contribute to your ultra-wide techno technologist, because I haven't ultra-wide monitor and I'm telling you. It is worth the coin. It's. Training takes full advantage of ultra-wide. Settings and it's. Josh dropping. It really really is ultra. A huge improvement in my opinion and Man This game. Like, you said you know that as you first start walking that music comes in, and you start walking down the hill and the cameras. Mac and it's just gorgeous vista with this. Tunes pump and you're basically like on a hike. You know that game just is a hike to me and I. Don't think I'M GONNA replay. It I mean. I didn't finish it on playstation. I don't think I'M GONNA. Replay it, but managed just was fun just wandering around and seen such beautiful sites in ultra-wide it. If you haven't played death stranding I put it on my top five games last year. I think it is so unique and so different and so interesting in such a re imagining of what video games can do a lot of ways. It's super worth playing especially. If you've got ultra-right on PC, or you've got a beefy enough pc to crank up the settings, 'cause it's a really beautiful game numb. Oh and also. The super high frame rate that I was getting on my car like they do all this. You know wizardry at Invidia by the way I got I got a code from Nvidia, so I was kind of. Tuned into looking at all the specifically the graphics settings. But man they they do that What is it a deal? Yeah, to keep that frame rate super high. It's buttery, buttery, buttery buttery. Isn't it? OFF On playstation, four, but man to have it be like such a high frame rate on my p. c.'s Pretty Wild Nicole. Christian spicer other than go SUSHILA. What has been on your playlist? While we'll say to people who won, it's already happened maybe. This but as we are recording. This Nintendo, announced a short. Many tomorrow, direct many tomorrow. Of course they did because we won't be covered on our show. And that's how it works, but to that donkey Kong country is on as one of the intendo games available through the switch online service. It's not become country to. It's not donkey Kong country, tropical free, which is also on switch, but if you have a Nintendo switch online service, donkey donkey, Kong country holds up. A game is still so fun to play. It's such an interesting take on the platforming genre especially coming. From rare, but intended who had perfected this other platforming genre creativity for rare in that game, and what they're able to make back, then is still a testament to you know I. Think some of the amazing platformer seeing today, including tropical freeze and and You Know Celeste in those retro style platformer. Everything we're seeing is just how you can change a genre while still being within it, you know just by tweaking, subtle things, and I think donkey Kong country really shows that off. Though you probably already have it, SOG recommend playing in diving back into it I think the the graphics are still really fun and enticing, and they pull you in and to really great play, and then I played more call of duty warzone. I played with the Chidi in combat from Best Gamer, and as I said on GB stream which I imagine, he still has it up. Playing Games with friends is the best. It's so fun like I know. I talked about warzone and Space Mountain hyperspace. UV SAUCE DO. Battle, Royale. Latte. Bounce off of multi player, Games, but But Duty Warzone to friends. I was like Oh, I could do this. Every day you know like. It really clicked like. Go to Gulag losing the Gulag, but they'd buy meow in be back again awake. Revive people and playing with friends. It's the best way to play any game but I zone a lot of its unique tweaks to the battle royale genre are really highlighted when you're playing with with friends or a squad of people you know and I i. I know my schedules too hectic, too, and there's as well to make it a reliable like play game date kind of thing, but it really clicked in. It's really fun so I. I understand its appeal. You know even more having experienced it than just the hypothesis of like. Oh, I see how these mechanics could work when you cared about people on your team. Versus like group together. It's like yeah I WanNa win, but also like that. What killed pretty early in my really going? Go Out of my way to bring him back. This isn't this isn't Christian. Discovered cod war. This is Christian discovered friends. You. Know, but it is and I I don't know if you've played warzone or not, but I do. It's. It's additions to the battle. Royale Genre. Really are around friends, you know. Mates and Fort Certainly introduced some of that stuff as well, too, but yeah, it was a good time as time. Muslim. I think my wife just screamed. Adib here though I think she's okay. Grandma mouse in the house, your wife and my wife or like Yeah, he's still in there doing the show. All right. Well. That's going to do for this episode. We do have parting gifts coming up, so stick around for those, but cleave atoms always so much fun to talk to you. Thanks for being here Sir. Thank you so much for for dealing with me and my technical issue. Oh, not at all, not at all. No, no, no problem at all. But as always is fantastic to get to hang with you both. Miss you all in physical form? Yeah, and in in ways that we We need to get some games. End For sure sometime soon up Atlanta that. Chris you have Christian just discovered friends, so he he's he's all in. He's only. He's. been doing a podcast with for years with somebody who doesn't ever play games with me, so yeah, it's weird to have this like. Willing to play games with your. Work before I? Understand that you're both my heartbeat sensor forever. On things funny. Can. Keep up with you and all the awesome stuff you do online. You can check out spun on me. The premier podcast by and people of Color in the video game industry every Tuesday we drop them you episode on our podcast fees and on Youtube We do that to live on which on Thursday evenings around seven PM PS T. You can find out all our stuff there and we have some dope show coming up. We had a show that's coming out this week. Tuesday with Adam Sandler, who who's rocking with us, who came through Kogyo after a five-year absence. Wow, which is nuts to know that I've been doing podcasts for more than five. Going! Get Adam back on here, too. It's been too long, but yeah, he's A. He's a good guy. Awesome man very very cool I love what you're doing and I love the in we have been all of the place. Just rocking and rolling, and making spun me bigger and bigger and bigger. It's it's great to see you. Thank you deserve it, but he put the you put the work in. That's for sure. Appreciate that. Thank you absolutely Chris Spicer what about you got going on this week. We are continuing our examination of the last of US part two of. The official the last of US podcast, which you can find on your podcast provider of choice, new episodes come out on Tuesdays. If you haven't give it a listen. Check it out and Twitter's the best way to keep in touch with me at Spicer. Then I forgot to mention this on this week show but I mentioned it last week, but I'm curious if anybody has played tetris primetime if they've want any money I'm not allowed to win money. On that good and I know people have won money, but I wonder if any of our listeners have won money from playing Tetris 'cause. I think that's That's pretty cool. You know so yeah. You've won money I'd love to know. I I I know that people are not saying. Is it real? Yes, I know people are I see. I watched streams very good players and and I see tweets from people that have won money, but I'm curious if anybody that listened. Downloaded it and played one any money. 'cause that'd be fun. That'd be fun. Right on right on you can follow me on twitter I'm at Jeff cannot which is tunes and won t and you can emails here a deal. See at DLC feedback at g mail dot com also I have some other shows. If you're interested, I talk about movies and TV shows on a show called the slash film cast can find that at slash film cast dot, com, or talking about palm springs this week, which is really worth watching. I really really really enjoyed that movie on on Hulu here is talking about it over at slash cast dot com this week. Also I do a comedy science show where you can learn somethin' and smile and chuckle at our goofy jokes about science It's called. We have concerns. You can find it. We have concerns dot com, and then also do. The Dungeon Ron, which is my long form, dungeons and dragons. EPIC video game epic. Storytelling epic fantasy show. And this last week. We blue. Some minds I. Don't know if you've seen my twitter feed about all the feedback people. That have been watching could not handle what happened. It was pretty awesome and mind blowing, so get on that train. The one the only ten Longo even tweeted about our show about how much he loves it. He He of course of. Three four, three and Lucas Arts fame. It's it's very flattering. That people I respect dig the show, so check out the dungeon run. You can find it as an audio podcast by searching for the dungeon run, you can find it on youtube by searching for the Dungeon. Run there, or you can watch live as we record Wednesday nights at six, pm Pacific Time at Caffeine Dot TV slash the dungeon run. All. Let's wrap the show up now with our parting gifts. Do. You have something to help. People get through their week. ooh, I was GonNa say that you should definitely check out the latest Patton. oswalt special on Netflix ex. Because it's pretty sweet, is really funny. I'm a big pet fan, so like getting a chance to see him. Do More stand up is always something that's great, and it's so funny that you talked about palm. Springs because I was gonNA save our springs. Thing was definitely definitely going to get right to watch clever. It was so good it was one of those like really. Nice. chilled-out like hang out with your significant other and hang out and watch that thing. Thing and it was so good. It was really really well done. I was not expecting it to be as cool as it was, and it was totally dote I. Highly I highly recommend if you're even mildly interested in seeing that movie, don't read anything about it. Going blind because I didn't know what it was about when I started watching it and I was so glad I didn't because I was like what is happening. So cool! Yeah, so check it out. It's on Hulu. And the panels special. I think it's on Netflix. Right, correct correct all right. Kristen Spicer how about you got a parting gift? I do, and this is someone who doesn't need any plugging from us or for me. but Gracie Abrams. Who is of the J.J Abrams family her dog. His daughter has an album that came out recently called minor and She may have heard of her before like Lord like reaching out when she was just posting snippets on Instagram I think it was, and singles have come out I think it's an e. p., seven EP, but it's it's phenomenal. That haunting you know melancholy bedroom music as as similar to Lord where it's like about love and heartbreak from a young perspective in it. It just reminds me of the things that like. You know and high school you turn on, turn the lights off and you're like I. Don't need you anyway. Sarah. Like slam the door and it's Cathartic in a way that makes you feel better but it's. It's really great I think. Friends is the first song on the album friend It's probably my favorite, but it's Gracie Abrams. Album minor, and you can find it wherever you streaming music Muslim. we also got a listener, suggested parting gifts. This was sent to deal. See feedback at gmail.com. This comes to us from Greg Thompson who writes, Hey Jeff Christian and esteemed guest. You guys introduced me to the midnight awhile back and win. Jeff more or less recently shouted out their newest album. Monsters, which is marvelous I pulled it in my daily music rotation I grew up making mix tapes for friends and my parting gift for. For you and your dear listeners, who loved the midnight, and might want a complimentary band, but next to them on. You're next playlist. That band is Halloween Alaska and they're not a new band, but they're one of those groups that popped up a little in the early two thousands, and then quietly have been playing ten shows a year and releasing an album every five years. Give or take, so they don't necessarily show up on many. Many radars Halloween Alaska has a lot of commonalities with the midnight there synth wave, ambient pop band that writes hooky songs with swirly synth parts, lyrics and vocal delivery that might compare favorably to a band like the postal service or broken bells. What makes Halloween Alaska interesting is that while the genre tends to be built around John Machine sounds and loops, and all the trappings that come along with electronic music. These guys come from A. A jazz background and all of their instruments are performed tracked live. Their drummer plays a hybrid drum kit with electric triggers, so we can move from playing like a rock drummer to doing e thirty second note grooves, the band can push her stretch the tempo and a song, so it can be both intricate and tight like a good midnight song, but also feel Kinda shaggy on the edge of control at times like early soul coughing. Their self titled First Album is a good place to start. My favorite track is the four corners, and if you like the weekend, songs sunset from the endless summer album, you'll like the song. Call it clear, or if you like dream away from the monsters album I, think the song all the arms around. You might be up your alley He goes on to compliment you. Christian and your Your Show Department of parenting that you did with Chris. CINTOSS says that all DLC listeners with kids should look up the old rss feed and listen to stay informed. Thank you, Greg! That's awesome, though the fun show wonder if that RSS exists, it was. Hope so yeah. Thanks Greg I actually. Loaded up the Halloween Alaska tonight when I was cooking dinner for my family and Yeah I dug it. I listen to all the tracks that you suggested and dug it so thanks for that Thanks for that recommendation. It's going into my rotation Halloween Alaska. My parting gift. Actually recommended to me by friend of the show and friend of Mine, a dentist who? Turned me onto this. Youtube Channel. About Fella named John Butler, who does a youtube channel called spiritual unfoldment. And the way this was introduced me sort of like an Mr kind of lovely sound of his voice, because this guy's an old old old. British dude, the big long white beard is email. Be Listening to Gandalf for some old wizard. but he talks very quietly in this lovely old British accent and he talks about. Spiritual unfoldment talks about meditation, and what's important in life and sort of the virtues of of work and being centered, and not getting caught up in frivolous things and just living life in a very meaningful purposeful way, it is so my jam. It is so beautiful I could. This guy has hours and hours and hours of just being interviewed and talking about that stuff and I could his voice voices soothing. I can put it on and just. Zone out and listen to him. Talk and feel better about the world. which is exactly what I need right now, so I'm so grateful the Danish for. Recommending this to me and I'm passing it along to you. Listener checkout spiritual unfoldment with John Butler the YouTube channel. All Right? That's going to do it for this episode of D.. L. C. thanks again to clear Adams and Christian Spicer for hanging out with me. Thanks to our musical contributors, Patrick L. Sean Madigan and zero star for making those cool bumpers. Thanks to the folks in our live chat for hanging in there tonight and being part of the show in real time we appreciate you and thank you to each and every of you who download our show and listen. We couldn't be here without you and we're so glad to be on this journey with you. We'll be back next week until then. Think about what you put out into the world. Make it a better place.

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Black Lives Matter: What We're Learning - What's Good Games (Ep. 163 )

What's Good Games

1:53:23 hr | 1 year ago

Black Lives Matter: What We're Learning - What's Good Games (Ep. 163 )

"Let's talk about the protests that are going on right now and the incontrovertible fact that black lives matter. We. Do not want to talk about the situation by thinking. This isn't about us or that. This is the show only for video game news commentary in funny stuff and staying silent. Pervasive systemic injustice, especially rooted in racism in infrastructural power dynamics isn't going to just go away. It's a problem. We must solve together. We stand with those calling for justice for Victims George Floyd Ahmad. Brianna Taylor and their families. And we stand with those making it undeniably clear that things need to change. We took our Monday what's good Games live show off this week. and instead encouraged you to listen to the discussion. A lesson in blackness led by our friend Khalif Adams who was a founder of the spun on me podcast. We hope that you did that and that it impacted you. Let's good Games has always been a community of support and kindness and members of our community are in pain to our black friends family. And fans were here. However, we can be if you want to reach out to us, you can email us at contact at what good games dot com and we're happy to listen. In Our nerdy corner of the Internet, we encourage you to go out of your normal sphere of influence to listen to watch and support black creators. Please remember that it is not their job to educate you. Give you a list of things to do to make it better or explain this pain to you. If. You're action to any part of this is to get defensive or upset or that. We should just stick to video games. We. Encourage you to take to process and figure out where those feelings are coming from. We. Ask that you be respectful. And instead of reacting. Focus on listening. Looking for ways to help you can donate. You can march. Educate Yourself, and of course vote. The system cannot reform itself, so we need to make the world in hospitable racism. What's good everybody and welcome to another episode of the? What's good Games podcasts your source for video news commentary analysis unfunny stuff every Friday, I'm Andrea Rene joined by Miss Christine Steamer. Miss Britney Bacher. And misery on annual. Welcome back to the show ladies I would say. How're you doing? How's everybody going this week? But I think I know the answer. Yeah. Yeah, it's going it's. A week time moves forward. It does and hopefully time moving forward means things are getting better. I'm excited to see that. There has been some movement in indictments brought against officers in George Floyd's case, and that they have reopened Brianna Taylor's case. That's it very exciting and good and very overdue news and I hope that people are continuing to stay involved in their local and state governments, because that is the quickest way to see the change in your personal community. And said of lobbying stuff at the White House which I mean I'm not going to blame you for either. They're just as guilty, but the local governments are really where you're going to see the change at the police level and I think that's kind of where people are focusing their activism right now, so we're WANNA run the show a little bit different today. We started the show with the statement that we posted on Monday when we decided to not do. What could games live because it's important if you didn't see our message on social media that you heard it here on the show? We want to still talk about video games, so don't think that this is all going to be very serious, but we do need to take a moment to be serious, so we're going to spend the first part of the show having a discussion led by Riana, and then in the second half of the show. We'll talk about the news of the week and we've been playing like we always do. But before we get to that discussion with re, we do have a couple of announcements. In case you missed the memo. It's pride month. We're very excited to celebrate with our friends in the LGBTQ plus community. We have been letting you guys know that we have a new pride design in the store. Of course, all of our pride designs the profits. Go to glad the gay and Lesbian Alliance against defamation. Defamation, who's doing work in the world of video games to help make sure those voices are heard I'm wearing one of our pride designs from last year, and we have tons of new styles that you guys can checkouts if you haven't been to. What's called games dot com slash store. CHECK OUT! Those pride designs. We encourage you to do so is my is my pillow in the shot. Can you see? Oh. Yeah, the, let me get. The clothes appear of Res Purple Pride Pillow. s looks so good colleges. Nailing the framing. Brenton vibrant. The purple looks really good, too. Yeah, I love it. I have one on order. It's in the process of being shipped and just a quick update on the video. Defenders of the video game city pins that we were selling during the anniversary stream after several hurdles I have received part of my shipping supplies to get those out to you and hope that in the next couple of days the remainder of the items that I need to get those all properly packaged and labeled will have arrived as most people know. Know, we're in the middle of pandemic still and in the United States on top of the protests and the curfews that are happening. Major cities dramatically affected shipping across the country. So thank you in advance for your patients. Don't worry. You will get your pins. I promise you. I WANNA. Say thank you to this month's patriots producers to his Godson Alex Regardless Ferris a tab Muhammad Marcus. Brown punk defied Malay- bittner and welcome to our Patriot community Michael, Emerson Mark Smith Stephanie Sizemore. Jeffers Hail Adam sexton Ritchie Flick Ngozi grades. An Brittany. We've got some new podcast. Reviewer we do, we have Chris Toe fro thing that correct and brass Fannin, and then Santana L. was who says don't podcast wish. It was longer and had a current event slash new segment. I see what they're. Yeah longer well. No, that's the first what you wish for. Anti panel holds the Zanoto Lola. No. One's ever requested a longer podcast, but I think you. Know and then we have a four sorry view from burdette's man who says Q. Q.. Q., indeed. So! You know what I'll take it, you know. I mean I really don't want your force already. At least you weren't asshole so there we go I. Mean Cue to me is crying. Yeah, is it but I don't know. So I. Don't know I. Don't know what. About giving us a four star review. In general in life, it's a serious mysterious. Comes from Bergman. Gets you. Indeed. And on that note, let's get into our first segment of the week Rana. Over to you. Yeah so. Some people might have caught me on inside gaming earlier this week. Where I made a statement about the state of things in reference to the murder of George, Floyd and Constant examples of injustice at the hands of police for black and Brown community. And currently lots of rioting curfews, police violence against protesters and There's a lot going on right now in the states so I wanted to take a beat. And Talk to my co hosts. The three of you about what's going on in. Where you are at. I tend to be more of a listener than a talker and. I would really really appreciate it if we can just be open and honest and just have a conversation about. How everything's hitting you. Because I really wanted. So with that. Let's I, guess, start with the first question that I have Did anything. Well there's lots of things, but what stood out to each of you is something. That was surprising anything. You didn't expect anything. You didn't know anything. You learned in the last week and a half. I feel like for me anyway. I mean there's been a lot I was not surprised by the police brutality, or any of that aspect I've been paying attention over the years like that part was not the shock. The part that I was actually shocked about which I'm a little ashamed of is like the budget. The city budget I had no idea that like fifty four percent of the Los Angeles. Budget goes to the Police Department I. Know that either I was floored I was like what how how on Earth could you ever justify? A city budget being like that and I'm like an I felt. Guilty and like sad about that because I obviously I've lived in La for four years now. Think somewhere around there. And just have not paid attention at all to wear my taxpayer. Dollars are going. I voted. Let him have done things, but I haven't actually looked in more specifically to what is being done. After the voting and I think that that's a much more important part, but I do think it's really easy to get carried away in your own micro world. Right of like well the things that are happening to me personally right now I'm going to deal with those and fix those, and it's harder sometimes to zoom out and look at the higher level and look at what's happening around you. So. I, think. The. The main thing to come out of this for me is to make sure that I am paying more attention on a macro level, and I am fighting for what needs to be done and that I am saying absolutely not you do not get over half of our cities money why? Yeah, thankfully Eric Garcetti the mayor of Los Angeles made a statement today that he has withdrawn one hundred, one hundred fifty million dollars from the police budget, which was great because I don't know if anybody else caught the livestream of the city council meeting that that was. That was not. It was in sane in the best way, and I like that they all just sat there and took it because. I feel like none of those people were listening. That's the thing that I really irritated me about that whole thing I was like I would totally go to this granted pandemic. We're going to pretend pandemic here on pause. We'll put the pandemic on pause for this entire conversation can only take one time. I actually wish that it wasn't enduring a pandemic because I would go in person because you. You have to listen there, but on a zoom call. You can just mute the tab like and I. think that has to be what all of those people had done. Because there. There's no way you can sit there and have zero reaction to what those people were saying. And all of them looked bored, or we're looking off or like doing something else. You're not listening. You're using technology to hide behind and pretend like you're listening, and that really irritated me and I also very irritated at Garcetti for throwing those peanuts money and saying we'll use this like here. You can have a little bit of scrap from our police. Department of. If that I don't have someone. I'm not very good at math, but it's not a lot. Yeah I'll I'll take a look. To your original question, Re and the reason I hesitated because I feel like my voice isn't really what needs to be heard right now but I. do appreciate that you you are listening. You do want to hear what we have to say. Is You know for me? This is your spend an exhausting of frustration frustrating, and just the all around angry, angry experience and I feel honestly selfish. Saying that because this hasn't really been. My reality wasn't my parents reality. It was at my grandparents reality. My great grandparents reality. But watching everything unfold, and just watching and I've just been doing a lot of sitting back and listening a lot of listening. I've been educating myself. And how can you not just feel all of these wide range of emotions? None of them pleasant. And it's really impacting me in a way that. I would say I'm ashamed. To admit has impact me before of course when you see police brutality against black men and women, it's A. It's an awful terrible thing, and that's what I always told myself. That fucking sucks. That's not right. What can be done, but can change, but life goes on, and then the next thing happens. But something about this week has just really opened my eyes up and. I'm exhausted and I haven't. This isn't my reality on a day-to-day basis and I was watching Khalif spun on me. A lesson in blackness. Halfway through my second watch right now because it's such a great conversation, just listening to. The reality of you know Zombie telling her children like you are a threat, just because you're a black man, you are a threat listening to Khalif Saint. He does eat sometimes. He can't even go take his garbage out. If it's nighttime, you just things that you here but I think when you especially hear it from people you know for some reason, it just registers differently. I hate that. I think it's it's just been a really. Hard Week. I don't know if I said that. It's eloquently as I could, but I tried. We're all we're all doing our best. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just to follow up on Steiner's point before my thoughts. The Los Angeles Police Department was set to receive a large increase in its annual budget from one point one, eight, nine billion last year to one point eight, six billion, most of the budget increases were for new police bonuses for Twenty Twenty Twenty Twenty one, before Garcetti axed that move Wednesday cutting, one, hundred, one, hundred and fifty million, only after activists rallied outside his home. Like all that makes you wanNA do is like have more protests outside of his home. Be like. Are you joking with US number? Please go back to right. Try again one more time. In New York more than forty city council candidates are calling for a one billion dollar cut to the NYPD's six billion dollar budget. Over four years to help fund other programs such as the city. Summer Youth, Employment Program and in cities, such as Minneapolis Dallas Philadelphia and Nashville similar movements are also gaining traction. So just a quick update. I think like cyber made a really valid points about. Ignorance about the way that local government works. We have local government elections semi-frequently an at the city and state level, and I think people in our age bracket, and younger are notoriously not participating, or if we are participating, were voting for a single initiative that we care about, and then we're leaving the rest of the ballots blank I'm certainly guilty of having leaving certain votes blank because I just don't know enough about the candidates that I just choose to not. Not. Vote than vote for somebody along party lines just because they're the party. That I'm registered with, but I think this has been a giant wakeup call for all of us to take much more care in researching the people who are in positions of power that oversee policy around the police around the attorney's office, the Department of Justice around correctional facilities and prisons. All of that is part of the system, and almost all of those positions are publicly elected positions. And I think the. Idea that so many of us as as young people, Gen, X., and below. Don't know what any of those positions are is is our fault, right? It's it's our ignorance. It's our weakness and it's been a huge wakeup. Call to be like. Educate yourself about what your government does for you. Because timer said we paying for it. Out of your. Yeah one hundred percent and I think that when I look about look at this week in think about something that surprised me in addition to that. We all knew that police brutality existed. I, think that the idea police brutality being in my life was something that felt very far away because I didn't know somebody who had experienced police brutality firsthand. I think I was not prepared for just how widespread the police brutality has been. Against All of the protesters this week. I think is really shaken my idea of what it means to be an American and what it means to have freedom of speech and the right to peaceful assembly and a lot of other things that are in our constitution. That seemed to be just thrown out the window this week, and that made me really angry I. mean all of it makes me angry. Watching those videos makes me angry and sad and horrified, and it's always. It always feels like there's nothing that can be done. It's like Oh, it's an officer being prosecuted by. You, know a district attorney in a state that I don't live in. There's nothing I can do. Except continued to donate to the southern poverty. Law Center which we've been doing since trump got elected and to continue to donate to the ACLU which we also have been doing. We can donate as much as we can to help these causes, but I think it really is time for us to go. What can I do in my community today to make it better? Yeah? That's really great insights in something that I. Am personally very grateful for. from all of you is that I? Know Each of you has done your homework. and has started to look into things more closely. And I think that is. Probably the way forward obviously. I don't have any answer soon, but Knowledge is power and yeah. You can throw that statement around, but the fact is that none of us knew that. How was it six billion dollars? We're coming from the citizens going to the police department. That's the problem we should know. These things and I'm glad we're starting to figure it out. a little I guess quick background about where my family came from I am descended of slaves, also descended of slave. Owners the first people who came to this country that I'm related to that we could find where the McGowan's an Irish family and one of the McGowan's raped one of his slaves, and she had his child daughter. So she was biracial. And then he raped her. And she had a daughter and those are the first relatives that I have in the Americas. and. That is a generational trauma that every single one of my family members who carried our entire lives. So. Being afraid of power. Structures specifically, but honestly being afraid of power is something that I've struggled with. Being afraid to be seen as something that I struggled with for many many years, people in my family were white or light, skinned enough to pass for white. And I have that to deal with accepting my blackness is something that I struggle with so for a lot of black people for those who don't know. There's a lot of layers to the shit and. The police brutality the systemic injustices against black people. A huge huge piece of it, but there is so much more that you don't see. And I so so encouraged that people are now waking up. And learning that there's more learn. So. Thank you to each view. Something that I'm surprised by. Is that people are finally getting it. I mean we got here the way we got here, but let's let's keep moving forward I guess is. What I hope we can do. Moving on from that what about this week has frustrated you that I? Guess, maybe you've already described the frustrated you but. What didn't you expect to be mad at I guess? Is there any anger emotion that came up or any emotion in general that you weren't expecting Obviously, if we see somebody being hurt, we expect to be upset. But did you have any emotions? That surprised you this week? Feel like all of our emotions through. All, experience, a lot of the emotional range that you can have as a human being. I think something. An interesting element of the protests that were not about the protests really but the way at least the LA. Government chose handle at that frustrated me was the curfews. Because, they were just. NOT ONLY! Ridiculously communicated like. The only person blowing up my phone was the city of Los Angeles and it was just like, and it would change constantly. Animals like you are literally just setting people up to fail, and that makes me furious, because I can't imagine how anybody could keep track of what the actual curfew is, or which part of the city are. There was one day I think it was the first day they were like business. District is one PM. Of Santa Monica. And first of all, what what are you defining business district? Is that literally just Third Street promise on? Is that what you mean? Can you say that like what is? Where is it? And then we'll all residential like four PM, which also is like it's getting summer now. The day doesn't set to like eight PM. and. They were curfew. Up until like. Super early curfews. There were like you can't be out past. Four or five and I was like. Yeah first of all. Why where were these during quarantine? All supposed to born C but nobody has a curfew. Technically run around and do whatever we want and I know that that was supposed to discourage looting, and some of the other bad elements that were happening not in conflict in conjunction, but not connected I. Suppose it's the correct saying that. and. But even still I'm like. How how much did that actually help? Or how much were you just literally scaring people into try to scare them into submission and that was. Frustrating and I'm glad that the ACLU city of Los Angeles Yep. I was really happy to see that happen today as well so we got notifications that there would be no curfew today after we just assume that there would be another curfew because. Los Angeles County, officials had said they will continue to enforce curfew until the violent riots stop, which is ll. There weren't violent riots happening year. Police officers were attacking people who were literally just sitting on the ground with signs. Of Doing? Practicing their rights given to them by the Constitution of the United States, and it's been so frustrated. I think to see people on the outside, not seen that and getting upset at the police, and there are still so many people that are upset at the protesters and I. Like that the anger that I have about that and the confusion I have about why people are not upset at the police is, but it's. It's hard when you're a country. As big as the United States is and I think that's something that we as Americans lose sight of a lot because we get so wrapped up in our our little communities that we forget that all of Europe can fit inside the united. United States, that's how vast and diverse we are as as a people, and so the communities that aren't experiencing the as widespread police brutality, because maybe they just have a couple of police officers, and they all know each other, versus you know middle to large cities that have rampant police brutality among their ranks. It's like we're not trying to say that. Every single police officer who's ever existed as a bad person. What we're trying to have some family members who are in the police force not here in La. Around in the United, states or trying to say that the reason why we have to address this brutality, this racism had on is because the good ones have allowed it to continue, and they're not doing enough to stand up, and not only do we as citizens need to be empowered to say something to our elected officials, including the police officers who are on our payroll. But, we want other police officers to be empowered to step up to report their co workers, and it's like well. What systems are in place to protect them you know. Does the union have a place where they can go where they're truly going to be protected? Anonymous reporting or anything 'cause yeah, if they have if they have fear of backlash or losing their job or themselves, that's like we want to be able to also allow the good police officers who see it in front of their phased to be empowered to report them in see action. It's the same conversation. I think that we had around the. The metoo movement about reporting sexual harassment in the workplace, and it's like you have to allow your employees to feel like they can say something just like you have to allow police to be able to say something, and also for them to be able to just stop it in its tracks when they do see it and it's disappointing to me. That we aren't talking about that in conjunction with the obvious like. That needs to change, but it's something that I hope is part of the conversation as well. Yeah, there are a lot of things that I'm seeing are frustrating, but unfortunately none of them are very surprising right I. Understand that you. Want to peacefully protest. You want to go out there and have your voice heard. Yes, absolutely do that. Of course you're GONNA have bad apples and individuals who take advantage of the situation and break into businesses in lieu and cause harm to other folks and other items in cars cars. Seattle, has some really really nasty protests or riots. And while yes, that all sucks in, yes, it's never good. When family businesses are broken into, and things are stolen, and they have to start over like you just hope they have insurance. I. Think the thing that's I've actually follow a lot of like minded people. My social time line I haven't had to or delete or anyone, but it's when I step out of my little bubble, and then I see how much of a stink is raised about you know. Oh, physical goods like these are actual lives that people are protesting sure like I said. Destroying businesses isn't. That's not good like don't do that, but I feel like. A stupid thing that you even need to say that. Yeah, yeah, I, don't think anyone's like yeah. It's your Free Shit. It's more people aren't pissed off about the fact that police brutality and racism is a thing, but they're more pissed off that their local nordstrom rack is being looted, and they want to spend their energy on, and that's the thing they wanna get angry about. It's like well, you know. Why do you think all of these rights are happening is because trying to be peaceful hasn't done shit. It doesn't work in this country. You can't make change by just sitting peacefully. Say like well. Not all this. You know it was an accident. That's not how change happens and now look. It's all over. Four hundred different cities have have participated in the protests across all of the states, and it's getting the message across, but no. You're Nordstrom Rack Susie. We're going to by the next day or on the fuck Outta here. Nordstrom should still be closed anyway, right? Now because I think things just opened in Seattle there. Might be totally wrong a you. Know more than I do about that, but I don't know if they were open. a lot of malls have been opened for a limited number of people at a time, but they. They were back to normal I. Guess is what else. Yeah The community rallying around Colin Kaepernick this week was fascinating because. He was like the defacto posterchild for peaceful demonstration on large platform, and look what happened to him in his career, and how he was crucified for it, and now like loved. Oh my gosh it. It's like it's like Yo-. He tried he tried to do with the way that you said that he's supposed to do it. And then you told them he was a bad person. He was spitting on the flag and he was disrespecting our troops, even though it had literally nothing to do with the Armed Forces consultative with. To, ask how to do it without insulting them. But you don't hear about that, right? No BEDIA knowledge is power. One hundred percent I mean there's a lot of that frustrated me about this week. I the videos. We're GONNA stop a couple days in once. We saw how bad it was. That I was like. Oh, the police are definitely gonNA. Ease it back right to walk it back. Down and I'm just like what is going on. How is it still happening? And then seen the President Trot out? Military, as a show of force is just like Whoa. What's going on in this country and then all the tear gas, and then they try to deny that they used tear gas and it's like dude. It was fucking nationalize on live teeth. It's fine everybody has. fucking it. Go. Let it out. Breath seriously they. Can't yeah holding this shit in. It's not good for us for us personally or for everyone else in the world. We need to start speaking up because this shit, is not it. Is just. Yeah and in conjunction with the people who are peacefully protested I. I always get really frustrated with people like Trot mlk. Mike Carey. You you murdered him. Do you remember that? Do you remember that part? No, you just conveniently. Forgot that bit. That's fine like I don't know. There's so many parts of it where they're like well. We'll just cherry pick, or even I've seen some people. I hope their butts please be butts. Talking about like pride and like Oh. It's a great example of what really. Do Not Know How fried start. Exactly, do you have just? Just. Read a book. Or read the Internet just read something that explains history to you. Maybe you will understand why although I would say. The majority of protests I've seen have been peaceful and have had zero 'cause to have the tax they've received. Like history has been changed violence. It's just honestly like the way it goes. You never hear about overall happening by people. Take an e peacefully. Just doesn't work that way, and that's why it gets me so mad. Well, maybe they just trying protests in. Peaceful of It's fine, maybe memory. It's all good anyway the other thing I wanNA. Talk about if you don't mind. On that note because Sammer brought up mlk. Re recommended. Reading a twitter thread and I don't have the author of that threat in front of me, but essentially. She was talking about co Intel pro, and this is something that I had never ever heard about which is just absolutely awful, but I was reading this threat and I was like what the Hell's, and then she recommended the author. Documentary called Black Panthers. Van guarded the revolution. She says it's on Netflix. I can find on Netflix, but I did find it on Amazon prime video and I watched that and. It's the same retain like read a book at educated at Res Recommendation You, I dove into this, and I'm just now like. This is something that I'm absolutely going to spend more time with because once you start kind of learning and said this in her text. This is kind of like the basis like this is where you probably WanNa. Start it all starts falling into place, and everything really does start making sense and I've been telling all my family members about it, and thankfully I have an amazing family, and we're all on the same page with all of this, and they're all interested in it. They didn't know about it either, and it's stuff like this. Why don't they teach you this in high school? Or School. Elementary School and we said yes. She had alertness. Normal Education I'm not talking about the. Third Yeah and Of course they're not gonNA. Teach you this because it messes up everything that me white woman Lula born and raised in a prominent, a white community like this is never been something that's even been brought up and everything I'm learning. It's it almost feels like up down in down as up and it's has a lot to do with why I'm really struggling this week as I feel like a Lotta Shit I learned in. This is my issue for not educating myself earlier, but I guess better late than never but damn. It's a lot. And it's and the what. Sorry British cut you off. I was just GonNa say the name of the twitter thread or the person who's account is at Clare. Will it and we'll put that in the show notes. If you guys want to go, find it if you're good with that, re. Yeah, absolutely. The beginning of the thread the first. Piece says not to be the white asshole who just got here five minutes ago and has already like I can't believe you didn't know this God Megan, but in researching my book. I learned some stuff history classes omitted, which might be helpful to other white folks specifically about Fred, Hampton and then it's A. A thread that you should read. Fred Hampton Reston Pace. I'm with you, Brittany that there's certainly a lot of gaps in our knowledge, which is something that I think we can bring up with our city councils who oversee funds for schools. We can't pay for anything for schools. We've got a military riot gear. Police officers with full. Gear like there are going to be deployed to to bring a bit of levity. There wasn't very funny. I cracked up. It was an older on twitter. From I. Don't even know where this cop was going, but. It was like when you have all of your funds, Alec or all all your allocated towards the police department, and like none towards infrastructure since. Then, they listed a date. I don't remember like a very long time ago. I think since the Soviet Union or something, and it's a cop car going like one hundred ish miles an hour, but on this road it has a really big Pothole, and so like the cop car just like eats it and just bounces off sparks fly behind it, and then it flips around and does. Does a twirl. anyways it's. Fun To watch because nobody actually got hurt in that, the cop walked away. But you're just like. Yeah. Maybe pave roads, maybe like put a little bit of effort into the place that you live and stop buying weird. Many tanks for the police I don't know why. Maybe, teach LGBT. Military History or any other history besides. The very limited scope that we get in our educational system. Re. We've all been talking a lot, but I feel like there's any do that matters. The most is humorous, so truly is like. Baby girl I mean I appreciate that and I know that people might feel a certain way about me, asking you all questions, and not talking as much, but the fact is I'm fucking exhausted. This is very traumatic for me to talk about and I'm sharing. What can I work better? I worked better as as a healer as a learner and This is very very difficult for me personally so. Thank you all for for helping me work through this and to our audience. Thank you all for for being patient with me because I know a lot of people wanna hear what I have to say, but fact is hurts to fuck and said so. I'm trying I'm on it. But are doing awesome. In fact, lots of people wrote in to say just how awesome you are out of the show says Rana. How are you so amazing all the time? Enquiring minds wants you. Don't drink water. Now! Boot Shell tell the kids that I know you were hung over one time I text you free cower, you hydrate like but I don't want to drink water. Girl you couldn't drink coconut water. Drink my. I don't know if that's GONNA her homemade. Okay, so the secret of being awesome, apparently like grease to just drink water be dehydrated it. So actually hydrate like that's a joke, please. Honey. What's your preferred method of hydration actually lately? I've been doing sodastream with some crystal light so. Yes stream. Now I made my. My go-to. We do have a couple questions and things that people have written in from our. What's good Games community at what two games dot com slash dear WG Sean writes in and says hi girls. I would love it if you could give a shout out to some video game creators, we don't often get to see faces behind the Games and I'm sure many others would love to support work by people of Color, so please let us know any names. Games are studios we check out, and do you have any recommendations for SCI FI or fantasy novels by black writers, particularly black female writers, also at the beginning of WG, possibly the first episode. Episode you did a segment where each talked about your background how you got into Games and what led you? WG Gee I'd really love to hear the same Riana. Rhonda, I'm really love your contribution to the show and I know you work at Xbox, but I'd love to know more thanks so much and lots of love, so just as a disclaimer reenter cannot talk about the work that she does it xbox but of course if she so chooses. Can talk about what got her into games and what led her G.. Yeah, yeah, I'll give I. Guess my story really quickly and then love to get into these recommendations has black female writers got, but I came from health care I have my Undergrad in exercise science. My master's in health information management, and I went to work for University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. And was. You, know working in the software side of healthcare for about a year and a half and then. I realized that I hated it. I couldn't really make a big enough difference in the lives of others and I've always loved video games and I figured. You know what it's time for a change so. After all my college friends moved away and I was left in Pittsburgh. I talked to my family. Members reached out to friends and my sister-in-law recommended me for job at xbox. I moved over to Seattle and started working in localization and. Kind of been off to the races from there, I I. I love being a Xbox and I've worked at a couple of other places, too, but yeah. I sort of got into games very intentionally after realizing I did want to be in healthcare. Almost rings a little bit Britney Story. Very different obvious ways, but said of healthcare I, was with the Department of Corrections just like the administrative headquarters building, and I also found out that I quickly heated. I also wanted to took classes at the local community college. I work from eight to. From eight to five take night classes took a few classes in criminal justice and animals like this for me. And Video Games. Look at we adults you. How did you start started in healthcare? Was it like a thing when you were a kid that you wanted to be a doctor? Or what kind of you down that route before you kind of shifted gears? Yeah, my entire family except for my dad is in healthcare so. My Dad, we'll do it yet. My Dad is in corrections using criminal justice. He has a prison warden for a long time now he's vice-principal, which he likes to say is the same thing Slightly different audience. But. My mom has always been in medical engineering. She's an engineer. my sister's physical therapist. Both of my brothers are in medical supplies. Sales my brothers and sisters. Mom is she was one point I think she was like the head nurse of London or something? Like a big deal in nursing and Shots all of my family members that I'm probably completely butcher which have died, but yeah, everybody has been in healthcare and in service roles, so that's sort of where my head was at for for most of my life. That makes sense. Yeah, so then what led you to WGC g? You I, mean you all your awesome I've been a fan for a while, but specifically my partner new introduced me to what's games and I met you all at Paxton Seattle and helped out at your life strange event during Pax West and I think from there kind of started just creeping into the friend group is being around. I remember going to your kind of funny. Best friends meet up. Steiner and I went down there and we. That was the first time that we got to. Actually like felt like chat with you have a connection that wasn't like just on social media or like in a big group and passing and. We need to hang out with re more. Yeah, I'm glad. Uniform friendship was bored. sparkles. Exactly Sean thank you so much for your question, and so for the recommendations read. You want to start with the black writers, or should we? Gain creators. Yes, I'm writers. Ready to go. Right is ready to go. I saw okay, if you like time travel. I would say you want to check out kindred by Octavia Butler. must-read! Cool kindred almost every butler. Writing these Dan put all these in the show notes. Yeah, perfect, if you like reading about kids with superpowers like the. avatars this would children of blood and bone by saw that one. Time! In this is an entire series so once you get this Wanda. If you like, you know when the story just keeps going. I think there's two more. I wanted to say, but. Also start here if you want to. Read about kids, superpowers both black female authors will is African. But fantastic stories, and they do her around young women. Nice awesome I wrote those down and we'll be adding them to my shopping cart. Berry? This one let vote might be hard to find because it's is a New York. Times bestseller, so it might be a little bit tricky to get that one. Does that make that easier to find. Wouldn't that make it easier to find. Link. I remember somebody telling me they were trying to find. It was sold out, but they could restocked it yeah. Makes Sense I was just looking up a title for one of the Black video game creators that I worked with recently to make sure that I. have is current titled Correct I'm referring to China's guy who's created director at Crystal Dynamics working on Marvel's avengers. He's great. He used to work at this role and he is now. Leading the team who's overseeing the creative for a giant property for marvel? Game so that's awesome. Also a big shoutout to Leo. Who Runs facebook gains whole program, and I've had the amazing opportunity to host panels work with him on several occasions, both with facebook's. She Talks Games Women Gaming Initiative, and also in the. Edens citizens, which is something that he's been overseeing as well and they've highlighted some really fantastic people in that program was interesting conversation that I had with him once about how as a top executive in a company as large as facebook. When he goes into meetings. With people, assuming that his subordinates who are white, are actually the person in charge. If they've actually never shook hands or met in person if they've only done email exchanges that when they walk into a room for the first time that. He said almost every time. They think it's my subordinates. Who are the ones that are in charge, and not me, and we have a real conversation about like what that meant to him, and how? He's grateful that he has co workers who immediately are like. Oh No, we're not in charge. Leo's in charge. But that that's a that's a bias that people have an unconscious bias sometimes or sometimes, it's just an open us. That's available and those people are bad. And I thought it was really great that he took the time to talk about that. Because you don't really hear executives, talk about those things very often, so I really appreciated that from him. Shot up to debut on gooden creator soul indie creator of she dreams elsewhere witch yes. Oh God it's so good. It's not out yet, but there is a demo and. I'm Tracy. Just put says planned released a twenty twenty, and I believe the game is going to be part of some of these summer game fest and Whatnot and trying to find the details on it right now, but anyway I did play the demo, and it was the time just went so quickly. It reminds me a lot of earthbound earthbound anything, animal, crossing or some inspirations for that game. It's a looks like a well I was more like sixteen bit game, but it's check it out and it's his twitter handle. Is Dv on good in D. V.? I., O. N. N. E. G., O., O., D., e., N., and the game is she dreams elsewhere, and the studio is studio. Severe V. anyways on seem go look at it and play it's real good yeah. So, shout out to at at Black Game Dev on twitter. Who Surfaces Wet devs every single day? Fellow but we do have some more questions from from people that we would like to get to. And some of them are just nice thoughts like from Haley Hahn who says no question? Just a thank you to Rana. She's getting the platform. She deserves in the gaming industry with a guest appearance on inside gaming. What about her spot? What's good gains? Anybody. They're not bigger than us. We had more future outlets as well. But I know I'm just GONNA. Take a break from Haley's message will get back to it. In the second. We didn't properly give. The props that she deserves for. Appearance on inside gaming. And you killed it. I know that you never really nervous about it, but you crushed it. makes. You had me rolling with some of your little silly quips. You had will work in common. In. Santa that it wasn't advanced. Move and the part way you said it sounds like they're just going into the House and kidnapping people. So? It was a fun tyrod. Girl great thank you. All right back to Hailey. It's so appreciated that Ryota is taking her time and emotional energy to share her truth that educate allies, so we can better support her, and the black lives matter movement. She is amazing and inspiring, and I'm so lucky to have met her in Fargo. Love and good vibes to you re on, and all the gals at W. G. G.. Exhaling Nice Message Yeah. Adam Fitzpatrick rights. How Do Video Games help you address the trauma of injustice, and do you have an example of a game which has further your passion for justice? I can't think of any game that has. Made me more passionate for justice, but I do think of a few games that have helped me avoid dealing with trauma. Processing it when I just needed to put a pause on things, and that is one hundred percent animal crossing. Share to give the other day when she went live onstream was like animal, crossing person with their poll to go over a river, and said anxiety and depression, and then you just flip right over it to the other side to get animal crossing, and that's pretty realistic, honestly I. I am trying to deal with everything in a helpful way and avoiding substances when I know that I can't control myself so I've been playing a shitload of crossing and five Star Island looks like trash, but it's five stars because I want those. Yet growing. How does the five-star? Trash is there's shit everywhere like just? Oh, it's just. So. That's why I was getting so many good ratings, okay? I was smart. Herat island is doing very well. It was like your great I'm like there's weeds everywhere and things have has really thrown about but okay. Is that she's weird. Apparently, Isabel just wants show vast show onto to quality, you think. We talk all the time about how games are an escape and video games are an escape and a much needed one and something that. Is Okay to have just like you said you know what I need to. I need to press pause on everything because I can't be in it all the time. I need to take a break for me and I think we talk about mental health and the show a lot, and hopefully that is still true for people today to know it's important to get out there. Educate yourself to March. If you can to vote when you need to, but it's also okay to take a break and to step away and to recharge so that you can keep fighting, because you can't keep fighting if you burn yourself out though and. Soldiers who needs to keep fighting? Indeed okay so. The next one is a little bit long. Okay. And I'm trying to decide how much about I wanna read. Their she goes and she reads while she's doing adequate correction to make about. She dreams elsewhere. I said earthbound and animal crossing, and that was incorrect. It's earthbound under tail and persona. Yeah I mean crossing not a bad buzzword beyond I wanted to be honest. As you put like random crap in a little house or something I was there. Decorating gets stars from this bill, so you really do need to to correctly advertise able crossing as decorating soon because that is exactly what it is Yeah, adventures and capitalism is what should. Indeed. That nook man but I have payday loans. Flown I've been trying to pay her back I. Have The bells in the bank waiting for her and she like so rich now that she's like. She's like a billionaire now. She's like I. Don't need that million. It's fine. Drought Bucket out of here. Yeah so I mean. She's punk me again, but thank you anyway. Okay, so Hugo writes. Dear what's Good Games I've listened to you for a long time. This is the first time riding to I'm living in Croatia following the events that have been happening recently for the last week or so here in Croatia. We have many people living here, so the topic of racism is not that much talked about. That's why I've tried to educate myself as much as I could. Could on the issue that has been going on obviously a white man. I could never truly know the feeling of how it is to feel treated less because of the color of my skin, but as a gay man living in a country, which being gay is still not considered normal. I can kind of relate on being looked at different or even hated for who I am. So what I wanted to ask you this. How do you feel about the sincerity of all of the things? People right on twitter and social networks to explain my question, a little further I have a feeling a portion of what is being written by companies, influencers, or even famous people just written to make them look better in a crisis. The question is. Is it really sincere to say you are sorry for something? You may have done to look like a better person. The. Love level. So I think the question is. How do you feel about statements that people are making on social media? Do you feel that? These statements are authentic and sincere or do. We think that the statements being made either by individuals or companies. Are there just because they feel obligated to say something? There's probably both house was going to say the exact same thing Steiner. There's definitely both there's people who are very insincere. Just that's who they are. There's companies that will make decisions strategically, and there's also companies made up of people who are hurting just as much as all of us are. And there's also people who really really really want to make a difference so kind of like what Khalif said, you know link sometimes. It's one sometimes. It's the other. I think the gift was. People are awful and terrible. People are fantastic a great exactly. It's like yeah. That feels right. I did like Paris's tweet about the NFL. which when the NFL made their stated this week I'm going just shut up. Just donate money. And you take care of players, and you let players protests when they need to protest, and you just shut up otherwise. The way on this one. Yeah it's it's interest, CEO. Seen all these statements from these companies and whatnot, and then you know twitter never forgets, and then they'll pull up a contradictory statement or something that can put and they'll post it. They'll quote re tweeted and it's like yeah, that's not a good look, you guys. Definitely call him a call and be and I. Think we'll find out as the weeks and and years progress. How sincere people really are being and hopefully hopefully it overwhelming majority are being very sincere 'cause damn. And speaking of Peres I know. We talk about our friend. Khalifa Adams a lot because caused great and we love Cau- and he deserves every single ounce of. UPLIFT? He's getting this week for all of the work. He's been doing for years, but Paris has also a fantastic member of video games, Media Community Brittany I had the opportunity to spend. You know a couple of days with him and Danny in. Various events over the years and Paris Lily as part of Gamertag radio, and also as a content creator, and does a lot of cool things, we we, he and I trying to figure out a time when he can drive up here because he's not that far away. In southern California, of course, the pandemic is made that very challenging, but if you guys want follow Paris. He's at vicious, six, nine six. Just V. I C. U. S. vicious. The word vicious, six, nine six. On twitter. He's awesome. He's also obsessed with cyberpunk twenty, seventy, seven, warning another property. A black lab and by the way. cyberpunk in general. Yeah there you go I I love that crew in. Paris and Danny just go back and forth on all this. They have some of the funniest banter. Those two and I know they're so tight and so close, but just watching them tear each other new asshole online fucking. It's an invest interaction. There's some of my favorites. I also WANNA give a shout at the crew that was on that spot on me a lesson in blackness. Episode, so we had cautiously, which is called Junkins on twitter. I don't know how. That's how he says car. Can. We up, and then you got blessing name author. Twitter handles blessing. Junior Zombie Kills Pika, Talita ambitious and the sinophile Guy, which is cam It was a fantastic conversation and they're all people that should be following on twitter if you're not. Absolutely so thank you to everybody who has been writing in. We really appreciate it, and we appreciate your support, and we appreciate you guys responding to our statement that we put out and having that moment of understanding and not. Coming back at us with like I can't believe you're not doing the show. The idea that we didn't talk for a second half to doubt that you would be on our side is what makes good games great and why we love you guys so much and I just wanted to kind of end my part of People from DFW G G then. Kick back to you for any other thoughts you have by saying Marcus Brown also wrote in one of our patriots producers, and he says I just WanNa. Say thank you to for being such a wonderful part of the WG community. I hope that we have made you feel welcome, heard and respected. The call for change has been issued loud and clear by. By the black community, and it's our turn to listen more attentively to educate ourselves more actively and consistently, and to speak out loud and clear against racism, brutality and oppression of the black men and women living here with us on this third rock from the Sun thank you again and much love and respect from all of us in the WG, community, the gaming community and the human community. Wow well. I I can't say any better than Marcus. That's amazing. the only thing that I would like to say again again. Again is thank you to our community to everyone who has reached out to me both publicly and privately to the three of you. Special, shot John and. I'll give you one more homework assignment. Are Looking for a way to get a little bit more of a bite sized chunk of what you can learn every day. Because I know, it's a lot. It's an entire people's history that nobody thought to teach. Dot, Li. Slash June. Justice has created an entire a rubric, or what is it? What's it called? Like a rental. Yeah, curriculum syllabus lesson plan. Yeah, They have three options. You can do ten minutes a day twenty, five or forty five. They give you options of things to watch things to listen to things to read. There should be something there for everyone in. It's fantastic starting point if you're feeling overwhelmed by what you realize you don't know. And what I would like to leave everybody with like. It's okay if you don't know what's going on if it's okay if you don't understand. How we got here what I ask you to do is. figure out your next move. Like what are you GonNa? Do now that you know. Thanks. And on that note, we're going to take a break and when we come back, we'll talk about some video games CNN minute, everybody. What's good everybody? Welcome back to the show. It's the second segment of the what the Games podcasts this very talk about what we've been playing, but before we do that, we're going to talk about the news because there is a couple of items that are of interest this week, even though there are clearly more important things happening. We thought you'd still be interested to know what's happening in your world video games, so this first story has me all. Excited, yeah, this tweet. Last Night Kingdoms of allure, re reckoning seemingly leaked for August twenty twenty, and it has now been confirmed, so this story has bits and pieces both agenda and polygon. Kingdoms I'm Laurie. Reckoning has seemingly leaked on the Microsoft store, and apparently will make its way to xbox one on August eleventh scratch that it's actually August eighteenth. It's a remastered version of two thousand twelve kingdoms of reckoning. If that wasn't clear and we're going to be or was released on xbox through, succeed playstation three at. Over on Polygon, they write that the product page says that the remastered will offer improved visuals and refine game play. It initially offered a release date of August eleventh, but as we have seen, it's justed and included multiple screen shots from the page Frankfurt Germany based Kyko is listed as the developer of the remastered. The studio previously worked with T H Q quick on dock. CIDERS were master edition and dark shredders to definitive the thin definitive definitive. Not We. That's what we call marketing speak. Pollyanna reached out for comment Tu t, H, Q, Nordic, who bought kingdom, or from EA and they confirmed that yes, the remastered Israel and it said that it was inadvertently listed ahead of an official announcement. Florian Emmerick the head of public relations for two, Nordic says. Yes, it's true and accurate. The news was not supposed to go out yet. which can be summarized as oopsy daisy? I, love okay. This might be my favorite. Of all time. I love it, but also I'll say it's not a hundred percent accurate, because as they've already said the date was wrong, yes. We hope people are still looking forward to playing kingdoms of Hillary reckoning in summer. Of course, they are just because it wasn't. Your official Mazza doesn't mean does. Work really hard and you're like is going to be the state. People are GonNa be excited than someone just like oops. Whole land I wanted to do this the right way and yeah. Yeah! Happens more often. There's a Lotta today's world. Is Emmerick Outta, that fans can look forward to more information in a few weeks? A playstation four version is up for preorder on Amazon alongside a windows PC version. There's also a listing for an elaborate collector's edition which we're me with an eight point, two inch statue of the character I love. Inches let's go very specific number said she said all is give the same August eighteenth release day with prices set at thirty, nine, ninety, nine for the standard game and one hundred, nine, ninety nine for the special edition. That is a price. Getting. One, which one is? Doing the statue. You're getting this game both. The collector's edition looks like like your your standard fare like the visit. That actually looks pretty good. There's a key chain. It says five artworks soundtrack, and then, of course you're chosen copy of the game on your. Choice I just a little bit more background from Jean about. Kingdoms evolve Laura if you're not familiar. Stories penned by New York Times bestselling author Ra, salvator it was also developed by spawn Creator Todd McFarlane and elder scrolls for oblivion lead designer Ken, Rolston, Chemo was originally developed by thirty eight studios and published by EA in two thousand eighteen. Bought the property from the now defunct studio, although still owned the publishing rights, it appears they worked out a deal to make this happen. I'm more came with a ton of controversy. As the Rhode Island Economic Development Corporation filed a lawsuit against Thirty Eight Studios Founder EX BOSTON, red SOx pitcher, curt, schilling, and other executives Thurday studios went out of business, following a seventy five million dollar loan supported by the Rhode Island taxpayers. That whole situation was the ice, but everyone really liked that game. I, actually didn't play it. So I'm interested, I feel like if we have a bit of a will in that time period like this might be the time when I finally. Is really exciting I've only played. Fifteen to twenty hours of this game started that. Your. Statement I'm sorry. Giant now August I bet it's a giant open RPG I know I've just say play. Refrain out of context ridiculous statement. Context of it being an RPG, yes, but otherwise. Can you imagine saying anything else? I only spent fifteen to twenty hours doing it. This time that's a long time, but I've never actually finished the game, and I was just thinking about this the other day, because I meant obviously the world's kind of unfair right now and. Just really aren't hooking me, so what Sony Comfort. Food Games I keep thinking about Kino's of lower. And I was going to go back to because I have it on What's IT on three sixty? You can play it on your exact words. Literally got I dug the disc out. Last night when I saw this tweet I was so excited and popped it in my xbox, one x, and loaded it up so that I could play, and then I was like wait. Now wait, why do I WANNA do that, but I can wait for the Nassar. In August. But part of me just wants to go in and tool around Maybe try to find my three sixties I can find where my save is. How does this is the perfect opportunity to play this game for the first time you know? So now, really excited about think. Funny Story I was actually talking to dealing with Pierce about king knows of Lor the moment when I saw this. We were talking about Oh. That was a great one. I'll have people played it and then I saw this only. Brought it into the world read. That was your. I'm Deanna Lana about mother three localization. Okay I got that one can. We send you a list of things we. Just manifested. Yeah, please manifest. So the part of the story that has me a little. On Edge. uh-huh I'm on the edge. Is that when we talked about EA in our April predictions? We saw on that list. Oh there was. That was conferred and I was like. A publishing games to order gore's T H Q Nordic publishing the game because it member in the story, it says that t h q brought bought the property, although EA still owned the publishing rights, but they worked out a deal, but we don't know what that deal is according to this idea and story. If I were able, you shook me up real hard I would say. My sources say no that this is not the HD game. REMASTERED MASTER! Yeah, I hope not I hope not to, not because I don't want this. Obviously I do, but I think if you bought it, they should publish it and that I really just want something I can't remember. What was the exact wording of the when they were like? It's a remastered. Do they see franchise or did they say I I'm trying to remember if they insinuated that there was more than one game attached to it because if. I don't remember the warning, though if it's if it's not this. What what are you hoping will be? Mass effect mass effect trilogy remastered here we go and HD remake of an EA game. It's too generic Elon. Generic yeah, yeah. That doesn't help us at all You and you're careful, wording. Day It yeah. All right fine. I guess time will tell on this one exactly don't. Yeah, it's true just a couple of months, but it is exciting that. All of the deal, see is going to be included because I don't think I played the role with DLC I. Didn't even finish the game, but I loved it. Yeah. No, the game is. The game is awesome so. I've been trying to get Jason to play it. Rude I explained breath of the wild Oliver. Again elbows boy user. I like your voice. Man we can play it together. Yes for right. I'm STU. I'm stewing on this. Game, all right okay moving on the next story. I cared so little about this story. I didn't even put the whole story, so maybe somebody else should read it and I will make sure. Type this shit up all my God Sega announced the game gear micro. The Strangest Retro Mini Game Device yet comes from Polygon, so SEGA is reviving ladies. It's nineteen ninety hand-held the game gear as many Retro Console for the company's sixtieth anniversary six years. Can you believe that's a long time? The second game gear micro will be released in Japan this October and it may be the strangest retro device yet. The system comes in four different colors and each color wig. Come more game gear game, spilt Ed. Costs? Four thousand eight hundred eighty yen about four hundred dollars, and will be released in Japan on October sixth. Your micro is tiny. Indeed, it's eighty millimeters wide about three point one five inches and Which is about one point seven inches. It'll fit in your but screaming. I should say. Part of Polygon article. About one third, the size of its original game, gears, LCD, screen and much much tinier than the two inch screen. The gameboy might grow. That she. But. The okay, so the four games you get just audit the hedgehog. This is just with this one though Oh shit. Different colors. Yeah, this is why I didn't put all this shit in there. Okay, why Sonic on all of them are just on that one on different sonics, so it's like yeah to get the blue and sonic could. Get the one you don't get any sonic whatsoever. And if you get the red one, you get some guy. Again there's to that have some sonics on them and then the other two. No Sonics let the funny part to me is playing. Those games on such a tiny screen will result in some ice train, but SEGA has a solution. The big window micro magnifying labs camping real Iraq creation of the big window release for the original game gear bag is really. Zach Thomas she'll. Like. I don't know what's happening with this. This reminds me of the Gameboy remember little attachment to get into find glassy to had the little light that would attached to it, and then you'd have the speaker amplifier out the bottom at the camera. Cameras! And stuff. We should take the camera on the printed. Printed one off of it and then never use it ever again. We should do a show Intel. What are these days? I, don't have it anymore. It's long gone, so. Brittany. Can you find a word is definitely has. Yeah, yeah, it's. Essentially the camera. Oh, it's in that room over there also Niger game boy game gear, only game gear. Yeah, yeah, I know. I have literally everything under the Sun. Shelf in the room next door. Okay. So just clarification. If you want the big window micro, you have to order all four of the game gear. Micro units at the same store in Japan Sega has not currently announced a Western release for its mini game gear. Thank. God the segregate your micro will be powered by two AAA batteries, but could also be powered by a USB micro cable features a built in speaker and head Jack. This is why literal nightmare. is having four tiny thing that I need to swap back and forth platelets. Should I hate which is just have a bunch of random crap in your house I'm like it makes my sociable up a little bit inside, and then not only that you have to buy a magnifying glass because we made it to small, and you can't see it. Does, make it bigger. What's interesting about all this? Sega Bullshit is that I'm GonNa read from Paul Tassie from Forbes as His article for days ago, he said Japanese journalists Zenji Chicago teased a huge scoop coming in for the June fourth issue, if amid sue with the story in question, related to Sega. Nishikawa said that it was on the level of wired's PS. Five articles back when the? Back back when they had exclusive reveals about the console, which led everyone to speculate about a new SEGA system, coming into Chicago immediately said no dreamcast to is not on the way, so the concept have ranged from Microsoft partnering with Sega to Rebrand xbox series exit Japan to Google by and say outright and stopping up their properties for Sega content so obviously this or this. And so the folks have been scrambling like no, this isn't the reveal. This isn't the reveal, so at this is. What is it supposedly what the scoop is? Sega's working on a new kind of platform. They apparently dub and this comes from. Sarah Khan Okay S. E. R. K. A. N., T, O, t o on twitter, Dr. Sirkin Toto from Canton Games Inc he'll this person tweets, and says according to this source in Japan Sega working on a new kind of platform, apparently dub fog gaming. That term is not the Japanese equivalent of cloud gaming, but no further info is known, and so now the article says yes. Fog Aiming. Is the scoop, not this little, but genesis urban yeah. Excuse me. I'm sorry, but. We'll use arcades in Japan as the technical backbone, CPS and GPS house and arcade machines are mentioned specifically. Ultra low latency is touted in commercial ideas. US arqes outside of business hours so. Obviously this came out. Oh my God. This was the big wire now this, wasn't it apparently. This fog gaming thing. It's the thing with the very confusing name. Yeah I mean fog. I understand but fog is purposely. Maybe. It's a code name. But I wouldn't be surprised if. Sega was getting into. Cloud streaming or some kind of digital passer visas or some kind of legacy collection that you can access digitally only I mean all. Played the, the four games that are exclusive to each of these consoles, but on on the fog this snow. I'm a diehard old school Nintendo girl through and through I spent some time with Sega's library. It was inferior to Nintendo's maybe. SPOUTING Old. I think you can fight Greg on that one or maybe not I'm not sure I just feel like Nintendo's 's legacy libraries. Oh. Yes. Yes, there's reason why they're still around. Making consoles or yes, it's true. I'm okay moving. Around making consuls. Ching Okay Infinity Ward says the call of duty will get better flagging racists user names. We'll Gaddam it's about time colleague gun rights that they have announced that the company will be issuing more bands for racist user names as well as taking more steps to monitor racist content and games in the future quote. There is no place for racist content in our game. This is an effort. We began with launch and we need to do. A Better job were issuing thousands of daily bands of racists and hate oriented names. Infinity words at in a tweet the company has promised to. To issue more band for raises user names will also adding more ways for the company to filter racist content and to ban players for it including reporting tools, these promises comet in the wake of a Reddit user, calling out Vinnie through video, showing dozens of accounts using the N. word as their user names while racial slurs on their own are not allowed to be set. It's user names. Players had been using symbols to bypass existing filters. Yeah, that's like the most basic way to get around filters, so it's like Internet user names WanNa one. Don't you remember lead speak? Goodness always remember speak. Yeah so I of course like I'm glad. Infinity Ward is doing this. I cannot believe that it took this week to make you do this. You're. In one of the wealthiest publishing circles in the world, working on the most successful video game. In the world. Usually accompanies like this I mean to reach point earlier segment y like unless their feet is like in the fire. It's really easy to not prioritize things. And so I think that's kind of what this was was like they're like we don't problem, but we also order. It's hard for us to think of almost. We're going to be racist, so we can't do it, and then they're like. Oh, this is a really bad look for pr way. Maybe we should face the snow. Yeah so like, of course like I'm not should not infinity word there. A great studio who make great games I just like. To take this. To get them there, but I've. Got Says. Don't be sorry better. And so I. DO I do appreciate that they didn't just say sorry. They're like here's actually how we're going to fix it. Yeah, it's it's always good to see a good old fashioned action item. Wants you know better, you should do better. They've known better for a while, but I mean. Hey, they got their. The the road was just a little longer than normal. Okay. next up stammered. Do you WanNa read this one short. It's somebody beautiful orange links. Publishers participate in summer of pride streaming. This is a press release so straight from the Horse's mouth. Mid Bus presents summer of Pride Twenty Twenty, the second annual celebration at LG btcu plus diversity in games. Curly running through June thirtieth, the event features devers twitch streamers plan queer positive games and raising money for lgbtq plus charities that. Trips me up, because there's so many letters a year round queer game storefront will go live later this month, raising bar for summer of pride, mid boss and participating streamers will raise money for life, changing lgbtq plus charities. Like Trans Lifeline Trevor Project. Gamer and sorry and Gamer axial tilt five. Permanent storefront for Queer. Positive Games curated by mid boss will launch in June in partnership with Krono, dot G G. Live streaming schedule includes. The, that Bitch Putin. How you say it, it's like bitch put. Chew is the part I'm not sure about. Bill Clinton which is a great name winner of season, two of the boulay brothers dragging. I hope you say. And previously active in the fighting inquiry as competitive player more than seventy top streamers from across the LGBT Q. Plus Spectrum. Including Spotty Meka I am brandon and deer will also take part in the festivities. They'll play more than sixty games with positive representation of Queer, characters, themes and stories. These include celebrated AAA titles from the last of US left behind such a great piece. To the mass effect series and an array of indie offering such as cyanide, wild hearts monster prom. Also great. Always sometimes monsters a fantastic name and fragments of him. Players can join the celebration of inclusive inclusivity through the summer of twenty twenty sale, offering discounts eighty percent on beloved Queer Positive Games including twenty sixty four a read. Only memories gone home and Tacoma. These and other sales will be available via the Krono Dot. G, G storefront launches and the Nintendo switch shop from June twentieth to thirtieth and steam from June ninth, the twenty fifth, so those dates are a little all over the place finally. You can find the games where you want them. Be Cool Vehicle There's lots of. People better, doing. Pride Focusing Queer focus gaining events throughout the month of June, so if you want to get involved. It's not hard to find. There's lots of resources out there for you so hopefully you guys can participate in always. Shout out to our friends at. Don't for the life of strange series. We've done so much work with them as a studio here at what's good games and they have fantastic queer characters in that franchise. You guys have never played it I. Don't know how I feel like we talk about strain. On this show. But definitely worth checking out as well, but there is a great little list here of just a handful of great games so Thank you for reading that steamer and case you missed it another very exciting tweets. Destiny two year four reveals happening Tuesday June nine nine am Pacific. Time? We are going to be getting information from bungee about the future destiny and there was a little. Video that went instagram that wasn't supposed to go on instagram. was in UK. And But the idea is that the drifter is potentially headed to Europa which of the moons of Jupiter what's The drifter? Though the drifter is a character that lives in the tower, and he runs a mode called Gambit and gambit prime, so the drifter was involved in one of the season's of content recently just to kind of keep a high level view, I think it goes, it goes deep Brit he goes to the destiny weeds. He currently is playing two sides of the coin and you don't know if he's a good guy. You don't always a bad guy and one of the pieces of deal seeing destined to chose you to pick a side, if you. Thought! He's good or thought he was bad. And we're thinking as a community that that choice is going to come to fruition potentially in this next piece of deal, see and I'm just gonNA. Leave it at that before I go down a rabbit hole, and inevitably regimen or Celtic, all slot reaches out to you Andrea. You screwed that up and that's not. Actually have to push up their glasses when they. Actually Andrea, let you talk to you about the Lord I'm very excited about what's happening next and I'm looking forward to the reveal, and if he was at working, it'd be like. Let Stream it together. Stream it with you know what's happening. There and that's all the questions I love. You there I be. Well. Part of me is worried that they're just going to do a short teaser, and then we'll go live in stream, and then it'll be. Quick! That'll be over, but what if they don't? It's like long like thirty minutes. Thing I don't know. Maybe I'll rejected bungee and see if they'll give me any info. It probably will. Be. Worth Co. streaming they'll be like. We will not at this time. The worse it is i. When there is some destiny thing going on and I think that was a much longer event, but what I will say is your reactions are very entertaining especially when they're a little spicy. So even if I feel like it would be hashed. They'd be still. So could content because even if the worst case scenarios, they show a five minute teaser. And you can bitch about it the fact that they only showed a five minutes teaser for another thirty minutes. You get it. That's true. I will contemplate and keep an eye on our twitter feed and my twitter feed all you know all all couldn't firm on the Monday show if I'll be doing alive, watch along. Speaking of watch long's the CYBERPUNK, twenty seventy seven nightwear event has been delayed CD project read made a statement this week, saying we decided to move nightwear nights city wire to June twenty fifth. We still look forward to sharing new information about Cyberpunk, twenty, seventy seven, but more important discussions are happening right now. We want them to be heard. We wholeheartedly stand against racism, intolerance and violence black lives matter. So glad to hear from CD project, red and L. Well the people that were like upset that this got delayed like now. Let it go, but. 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She's going to be about a two hour show so far we have good grill collective, and then you have paradox interactive, which was supposed to be followed by the PC gaming show so looks like it'll probably for like twelve ten to twelve thirty or something. Is Mike Okay so? We'll have a shorter day of watch. Yeah Yeah Join a twitter TV slash. What's good Games because in case you missed it? They're doing a really cool pride. E Moat. Initiative where if you guys gift a sub if you cheer with bits? Or you give out community subs. I believe there are a whole collection a pride emails that you get and for every Lemme actually get the language on this correct. Let me pull it up because for every. Gifted sub every certain amount of bits cheered. They are donated money to the Trevor Project Up to three hundred thousand dollars, and so they're incentivizing people to do this, because not only do you get? Oh, but somebody in the community also randomly gets an email gifted to them as well. Into! 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Visual I didn't mean to get waylaid, but it's a really cool thing that they're doing for pride and the the cute, so if you are interested of course. Join us. Okay and Leslie Brittany. Actually you guys can talk about that. xbox thing you want to talk about xbox thing I you talk about P. I. Can we say P for? Can you save the peaceful? For. Last okay. Do you have the details about the XBOX ASHFORD leaky? You pull it up. I! Don't have reality you have it. On the Internet. We've we close that TAB because I? Close and to you and here we are. This is what's happening. You know it's just okay, so here's what happened. Everybody, let me break it down for you was a leak surprise another DECAF on oopsy. Daisy happened and Italy ABC's of the new Dashboard to xbox one series Ix, so the redesign leaked ahead of a U. I update according to Metro or is this wait? Sorry, is this for xbox one or is this? I suppose to be for series I think this is just for xbox one X. One is getting any dad I was confused got. It makes more than I said Yeah Intrigue Comes from. is going to look like the series x smooth I'm GONNA go with. No I would go with no to I don't think I don't think that they would launch the same dashboard I think they wanted to look shiny new. Greenback the blades. please. Bring back the. It's. They weren't wall speaking of the blades. This story has a little bit of details. Every video game company has it's own specialties as well as things. It's never been very good at and for Microsoft. The two most obvious ones are naming its consoles and created their user interface. The latter is surprising because the xbox. Three sixty blade system was always very popular, whereas the xbox one dashboard has been a nightmare from day one and multiple updates that have if anything only gotten worse over time metro does not like the xbox dashboard. Microsoft's are giving it another. Roll the dice, though now we know that the new xbox store will. Will look like things. Series of leaks from at win community and the video above from thoughts Brad Sam so that throughout video he essentially goes through and shows you what the new dashboard is GonNa look like the interface is part of a wider dashboard update. That will match up with Microsoft's new fluid design concept that it's using across multiple devices and operating systems. The simpler design keeps astore navigation on the left hand side while making highlight whether the game is free to play on game. Pass or not I think that that is important, because you don't want people accidentally going and buying something that they can get for free. or I mean. Maybe it's a way for free. It's not very well I. mean they should gain extra money. They're already pay 'em. Pass right, yes. It's assumed the store update will come as part of the General Dashboard Refresh code-named Macri, but it's still unclear when that will arrive any given. How late in the generation this happening and there seems to be a good chance at the same design or something very similar to be used for the xbox series x considering how important the backwards compatibility is to Microsoft, doesn't seem to make sense that the council would have a radically different dashboard restoring we just single. Why Not Metro? Yeah I, don't I mean? I like that they couldn't aimed at mercury though it makes me happy I think it's funny why? Because Mercury is like a liquid and it's fluid. I was just thinking about the thinking of the planet. I'm sorry I'm thinking. You. The element I was thinking of your. Boy Oh I mean yeah, that's also a thing that's past. Mercury and element. The proper term is yeah, it is it is a chemical element, the symbol as H G. Any atomic number is eighty. I think Burke is really pretty. That's all element is off. It's fascinating, youthful, dangerous, but pretty deadly pretty. Just like Ma or Now, let's talk about P. Ellison about peace all right so this story from Games radar. So asserts with this for just got a brand new update and expansion pack. That's all about going green, but more importantly. Seen Fire Now the terrifying bug was introduced the sizable new patch, preceding the ECO lifestyle deal, see available now, if someone coming for updates to arrive hiding some dysfunction, but this might just take the cake among reports of crashes and missing houses and players have been finding flames looking at other Sims toilet bowl, so I will send you all up this link into our duck. Please! Just, no! Peeing the Stream looks nice and clear, and then flames erupting from the Bulls Oh my God. Yes it. The P. itself was not on fire. Every Man's Dream to pee on a trash fire to P. The P.! itself is like Mercury. It's beautiful, but deadly by itself United doesn't cause any issues, but as soon as it touches, something or I. Don't know what the fuck is a chemical reaction out my ass here. All I'm saying is the P. looks fine to sell the. They're literally pissing flames. Yeah! And then the. Committee causes combustion with something in the toilet. Creates a flame. What should be fucking awesome? I would be squatting over the place. No it would light. Your would let your on fire. You don't WanNA fiery, Coochie. It's not what I would I would be angled. Angled correctly so. You're trying to I. Don't know what you're trying to do besides. Fire. Sacrifices must be made and say ladies. It's if we are stranded. And we were in some dire straits, and we're in the middle of the woods, and we have a fucking campfire I'm not going to care, but my coach, or whatever the Fuck Andrea just called the catch on fire I will on those logs we. Will Give us pete. Not Wrong. I! There's a difference between doing that to start a fire at a log. And starting a fire in a toilet you're sitting on. The toilet you're sitting on is like very directly going to. Come Up. But if you like, it's GonNa. Burn your Bush and squat over the fire. My aim is true. God Yes. You go shares of that. Learning Edge. Yeah. That's a whole new. Germany Bush. recombination. Top nicely done. I'm proud of you. Good okay. So the Sims also had an oopsy daisy. Burning Bush. Indeed. oopsy daisy is in the world, indeed that note that is going to do it for our news segment ladies. This is normally where we would go to a break, but no. There is no breaks this week. We're going straight into. What have you been playing? Alco I I can't talk about it. Yeah, we'll talk about it next week. A somebody else's. Yeah so Simar has already confirmed that she s indeed is playing. The last of us are to thank you playstation for sending that copy over but Yoshi she cannot talk about it yet. Because for some reason, they gave it so early. Been Helpful for me, 'cause I've been moving through this, so yeah given me plenty of time. Which is nice. Thank you I appreciate it good. I'm glad that you're having a great time. None of us are all incredibly jealous. No, I didn't say. I had a great time at all. I said no impressions yet. I've said that I have the game that is all I. Have said that is correct. That is all she said. She confirmed that she has the game. I'm okay, so. I as you guys know, have just been playing more animal crossing so I was excited to. Chat with Brian Altana he came by by island. We recorded my little tour. They're going to be airing that SUNA once I know exactly when I will be sure to relay it, but I'm really happy with how my island is coming along. I'm feeling very proud of it, and as we mentioned earlier, it's been a really nice way to like just chill for a while so I don't really need to reiterate everything. It's now summer, so there's some new bugs to catch. There's some new designs to buy, but it's not like a radically different game or anything, so I will kick it over to you to. Three you WANNA. Go Yeah! As usual I'm going to talk about apex. I I've been playing packs nonstop. It's the constant in my life, and in addition to finally getting into some duos in I really appreciate that they're switching between the two maps like periodically. There's a countdown timer and you can see when it's going to go from a world's edge to Kingston in which is pretty cool I've been playing this new broken ghosts. Thing that they introduced for season five, so I'll just, I'll read a piece about it because it'll be much more. Straightforward than what I would try to do off the cuff so season five introduces our first quest to apex legends, a season-long search to find nine pieces of mysterious artifact collect daily treasure packs in competitive matches of apex legends, maximum one per day and unlock rewards and new hunt for the missing pieces you go on weekly, hunts in two Kings Canyon at night to retrieve pieces of the artifact and brave the danger Solos or with your squad, wait brave the dangers, solo, or with your squad and make it back alive. While, you can always join in on hunts. You'll only get the reward if you've unlocked the mission yourself so I'll pause there. Basically what it is is like a rush mode where you in a friend or two friends or just. Go in Willy Nilly. you run through different parts of the map and you have waves of these like new enemies. They look sort of like revenue style where the lead came from another dimension and they really quickly, so it's if feels like you're fighting a bunch of ghosts dogs, which is Kinda cool, and then you get to this little. And then you have to like hold this point in fighter foregoes dogs, and then you have to escape to the chop, and it's like it's really randomly fun because. Happen like it. It breaks up the normal pace of apex which you know as a lot of people know it's about Arielle game, and it's it takes element away from it, but it's sort of a nice play on the typical hormone that you might see in one of these games, so I've been playing that and the ques- rewards come pretty regularly if you don't find a treasure pack. Pack on any given day. You can spend your in game currency to purchase on every day. So that's an option for you. If you don't feel like going into a match in playing just for our NGO finding a treasure pack, you can buy one with your game currency, and usually by now you'll have plenty of currency stored up and yeah, that's been really fun. I like it. I saw thing you just said I'm so happy that you're happy. Sorry. Know. It's not you. We have a frame of reference, so yeah, you definitely don't be sorry i. have talked to really about how it's time for me to spend some time in Apex Oh. We're going to plan a stream where re teaches me the basics, the apex, because I like have played like so little of this game. So. This is going to be good. It's fun. You'll get hooked. We told you love. Anima- crossing. And look what happened. That's trail. Battle Ray Allen me Rate my house and Apex You can decorate your character. Have you seen the low buskens? We talked about this? Yeah, we. Talked about last week. Yeah, also, today's the last day. For when the podcast airs, there will be over, but usually log on tonight. Twitch prime has local loop. Over to the PEX loot. Okay, so if you have Amazon prime, you get. Twitch prime loot, which you also get a free sub. If you wanted to give, tood gives. Game loot in the loot for apex. This month is a Lobos Skin Gordon. Or something new. Yes, she's cool. She's. Okay cool. I'm glad that you are so kicking around and apex having a good time in all of the new content, and we'll definitely check in and be streaming at some point in the future Britney. You have been playing some f. m. v.. I remember when this game came out, and it looked interesting, but tell us. How has it been with telling lies? Yes, okay, so our spoiler played about five hours of it, and then I got impatient, and then I went on Wikipedia. Hold on hold on both of them. Are you saying that you didn't actually play through the entire thing that you stopped playing? Then you read a summary of what happens on Wikipedia I am I understanding that. Do did the cliff's notes version. Yes, so okay. This is your skin so like I'm seen earlier games right now. Just just really aren't hooking me and I think it's just obviously everything going on. So I was looking for something a little different. It's like okay either play Oak Green of time for the fiftieth time time. How no or try something different? So I looked at telling lies in for some reason that just sounded like something. Different enough that I was my interest was piqued so I grabs my trooper. Husband Jason we're going to do this. It was like all right. So for those of you who don't know telling lies re release originally in two thousand eighteen on PC, and then just now came to last month. They came to console. xbox switch in playstation is developed by SAM. Barlow and furious be so. Sam is the writer and designer, her story and Silent Hill origins and Silently Hill shattered memories, which I did not know just kind of funny and published by Anna Purna, so the official description of telling lies, telling lies sits in front of an anonymous laptop, loaded with a stolen NSA database full of footage. The footage covers two years. in the intimate lives of four people who stories are linked together by a shocking incident, exploited the database by typing search terms. Watch the clips where the words are spoken in piece together your story. So, this game takes about seven to fifteen hours to complete. I was looking on how long to be some other threads close curious because after about five hours like. And so. Okay, so there's one hundred sixty nine clips in this game and they range from like two to eight minutes apiece, so there's like a lot of them. And for the most part they're either two minutes, or even its and the idea is to eight minutes. Sorry idea is that you search for certain terms, so the game starts, and you are essentially looking at a desktop like the little screen. And you can see the reflection of a woman who is supposedly you right? And then a database shows up and you can search for search terms, so if you search for love for example, it's GonNa. Show five videos that mentioned the word love in them five out of one hundred sixty nine. And what you do, is you find a video? You Watch it. And then from that they're one sided conversations for the most part. So it's usually one of these four people talking to someone else so what you do is you watched that clip? And then from that you grab keyword that you think will help you find the next. The find the clip that corresponds to it like who is this person talking to? So. Let's say it's. A clip of we'll say we'll find a cup of summer. And she says I love Colin so then I would do as a big okay within this five minute conversation. Steiner wants mentioned I. Love Colon I bet if I searched for colon in a database. I'M GONNA get the corresponding video. Yes right so you search call in that database, and then finally you'd find, you'd find me. You'd be like yeah. It's really hot, and so it's Allaster Blah Blah. So then then what you do is, you can piece together that conversation, and so the way Jason and I played it is he was handling the game I had my laptop on the side. I was typing up all these notes in trying to figure out who's WHO and what -tective on. Yeah, I mean in that sense. It was really fun. It was kind of cooperative effort and it was funded. Funded figure out what's going on in the story and who's who and what the twists and the turns are and let me just say all these clips are very very very well acted like these actors are very very talented, and they're really good at what they do, but the part that got a little too repetitive. Let me not repetitive. Is The word monotonous? Perhaps I don't know it's just. Got Too much worse. Okay? We watched one clip and watch other clip. This took about fifteen minutes to watch these two clips now. Where do we go from here? Because we didn't get anything super concrete from that conversation so I guess now we just throw it a random word and we search for the search for that and see what happens, and then you kind of. Piece together story elements, but I think just for me. It was just like a little too much, and there's this dump feature that you can't rewind the video so like. Let's say going back to the summer. Example I searched for colon, and then five minutes endure conversation I mentioned colon, and that's how the video grabbed it. Well then you have to stop in manually rewind. To get to the beginning of the video, and that granted as you rewinding, you are seeing subtitles on the bottom, and that's where they pull the keywords from. But you still have to rewind manually to get to the very beginning now granted, it's not like a second for seconds like okay five seconds year five seconds here, but there's not an immediate start from beginning. She gets a little tedious. Anyway, it sounds like a lot of work if yes. Job and that's why I eventually went to the wikipedia page, and what I will say is about after five hours. You get this little hint that maybe your time with the game is coming to a close and what happens, is you get an ending depending on I? Believe the most clips that you saw from one of the characters. I understand that after that happens, you can continue to play the game to watch all of the clips and piece together all the Info, but even after five or so hours I was reading the Wikipedia page and Oh boy, like I did not even start scratching the surface of the twists and turns I was trying to figure out everything from a chronological order. Any, oh, for be a little, too something happen. You're trying to figure out I guess missing the the the what here you know you're. You're right. I didn't I purposely didn't mention the plot. Because a that's the whole thing. Yeah, but yeah, but doesn't tell you out of beginning. You just come in and you're like. There's a bunch of clips here and I guess I'll look at them, yeah. Yeah Yeah. That's so that's why. I haven't said anything. Because I think that's how it's meant to enough I did. I assumed it would be like you're trying to do this. Go find it and you're like okay. Sounds like. Like there's some memos on the desktop. Hair on the desktop that you could mess role what if you just played solitaire for like I mean? Like five games, of Solitaire we actually started the game. He. Barlow's umbrella crater says that it's desktop thriller much like her story was where the player becomes involved in drama has played out through stored video clips and other information. Let's see it says I. Don't Know Her story I. Didn't play it, so I don't know if that was just one person or if there are multiple people involved in that one as well. But. It says yeah, the only thing here it says the covers a two year period which had been stored on a stolen hard-drive taken from the National Security Agency the NSA in the player has the ability to search hundreds as you said one hundred, sixty nine. Segments and I guess like you're supposed to figure out like. Is there like a thing? You're supposed to be solveen? Yes I mean. I say that because you don't quite know what you're doing or why. You're doing it in my understanding is that you don't fully. It's essentially just telling the story right? Yeah, I don't know. Understand wire why you need to figure out the story I'm sure that's explained, but it's more or less like okay. You follow these characters, and then you see how they all come together and I think it's just the telling of a story is the point of this game. Yeah obviously, we don't want to spoil anything but I think the high level plot the. Look on the back of the boxes is. In two thousand Nineteen Karen Douglas. A former FBI agent goes back to her apartment to turn on her computer and access the content of an external usb drive, then watch videos by searching keywords. Yeah, and so clearly we're working with clandestine. Agencies spice the governments of. And something happens within that whole kind of realm so okay so overall. It sounds like you were like man about the whole thing I enjoy the time I spent with. It I would have preferred if it was much shorter, but you know it just wasn't something that maybe just sixty nine clips sixty. Hundred Sixty nine I think we play like five or so hours of IT I. Don't know how many clips that actually probably wasn't even the full five hours, but either way. Yeah I mean. I want to talk about it because I think it's something different. I think it's cool. I, think it's different. Things should be applauded because hey, you're trying to something innovative, but it just wasn't entirely from me, but I will say. This is a good family while there are so mature themes in it. Wanted to character is a sex worker. which like you don't see anything, and that's not super spoiling anything, so don't worry. Don't get mad at me, but that's not. She never does anything super like Raunchier or whatever and they're swearing, and there's violence, but it's whatever yeah. Whatever let's ten year old play I was watching that. Rally Approval for children they is. All right cool so ringing endorsement excellent. Notes so this has been a very. Interesting show it has gone places to say the very least up your normal. I wasn't going to mention that again, but since she did yes, tongue, p like it was belt CDC's. Going places. But most importantly, we talked about the events of this week and what you can do to be better and to help people in your communities. I just a reminder. 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"Yeah what's up. walk into to kinda funny games. Daily for wednesday march twenty four. Twenty twenty one. I heroes blessing adia. Junior joining me is gay. Modest aka janet garcia. What's good glad to be here. Which is nice to have you back. Bright before the show. We're just talking about the difference between a sandwich and a hot dog and a burger. Do you want to catch us up. What are you. What are you stand. Yeah i'm the conversation is dumb. I regret bringing up. That's stance one stance to it is by definition but we live in a world where connotation takes precedence so like sure is technically yes but would you go into a sandwich shop and order a hotdog. No you can't do that. Changes over time though we could be the change. You wanna see in the world. Let's go into these sandwich shops. Let's order hot dogs. Let's do it now. Do you order hotdog it. Only which you with the power of the internet. We can do just about anything. You don't think if we try hard enough we can't make it to subway sells a hot dog. I feel like we could. Yes but it wouldn't be right. It'd be such a bad hat out to relevant they're doing. They have no authority to mcdonald's tries to make a rib. It s like you guys should stick with rim slander. Slander on him on. Don't do this. Don't lose the guy's going to sit here and tell me that the make ribs great i know can come on okay. Hey hey we're all getting worse. There's a nasty meat is and that's nasty me. I love it. It's what's what's going on in the world of honest. What have you been up to you. Yeah i've been doing. A bunch of stream still doing the patriots going strong patriot combat commodities. Check it out. Been doing reviews. I reviewed mechat. I reviewed this game called. I think called comes after so. Yeah i've been doing a little bit of everything in my weekly podcast too so ready to talk about news because like i'm constantly that news head. Space awesome. what did you think about mcadoo. did you like it. yeah. I liked it. I did a lot. I think it. It's interesting because it's definitely not the best puzzle game and not the best story. But i think some of its parts works together really well in a way. That's kind of rare so yeah. I really recommended. I think it's it's pretty strong. It's probably in the upper area of my best of twenty twenty one Granted that's because really amazing stuff has come out yet. Currently my game of the year is to which only like four hours in which is literally like not even like the game barely started. But i've really enjoyed that. But i'm sure something will overtake it. I'm just waiting to see what that is janet. Let me talk to you about a big game of the year contender. Because today's stories include it takes to being hit dice award nominees and more because this is kind of funny games. Daily detonate live right here on twitter dot tv slash kind of games. We run you through the news. 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But i'll tell you about that later for now. Let's begin with what is and forever will be the rope report did it did the the time for news. We have five story today. Fakers does starting with our number one. The twenty fourth annual dice awards were just announced. I'm going pull directly from their website. Where they break it down like this. The kademi interactive arts and sciences is pleased to announce the nominees for its twenty fourth annual awards. The winners will be revealed at the dice. Awards ceremony happening. Virtually on april twenty second twenty twenty one featuring an all new format the show will be hosted by. Greg miller never heard of them jessica in our home e khalif atoms and livestream via our media partner aegean entertainment. A total of fifty seven games in two thousand twenty received a nomination. The last of this part to leads with eleven nominations followed by ghosts shema with tenants and haiti's with eight time for five. Nominations each are half-life. Alex marvel spider man miles morales and ori- and the will of the wisps final finalists for twenty twenty top honor game of the year. Our animal crossing new horizons fi. Final fantasy seven remake ghost haiti's in the last part to now. I want to have a little bit of fun fun on this episode. I want to go through some of the different categories and what the nominees are. But i'm gonna start with the game of the year category right like i just said we've got new new horizons fancy goes to sima haiti's and last part jan. Does that sound about right to you. I think is a pretty accurate. Reading of the pulse of what that year was not there. Do you have any predictions. Oh i feel like i don't know. Is this sort of a wild card. Because it doesn't. I feel like the results are never what i feel like. They will be like. I have an easier time. Judging the game awards which i feel like has more traditional i think part that's probably due to how they you know the cool of voters or judges like usually they're like you know media media but you kind of get a sense. I think just from being on twitter and being in the know of like what other critics are thinking like okay based on this. If logic this out we can figure out what game irib for that. Oh man game in your is kind of weird. Last year to a lot of a lot of people were a lot of people did lean on. Haiti's i feel like haiti's will win that like that. That'd be my guess. Yeah i'm looking through trying to find previous years to see what we can compare it to you. Because every i feel like every award show does kind of kind of have its own energy and its own bag and so you can kind of predict base on like the the game awards i feel like is kinda easier because you can kind of. Tell the pulse of what the where the media is that. What what the game. Awards usually leans towards There are certain shows where things get a little bit unpredictable like Gdp awards comes comes to mind. I believe in previous years. We've gotten games like entitled use game winning game with a year. And that's what. I was thinking because i was trying to remember who that was. I'm like wherever that was that was like really left field. Actually i think about it. I think prophecy seven could could win to my answer would be to the correct answer. That games like not only game of the year one of the best games i've played in my life You know. I think it's the only game on this list. That will be talked about for longer than a few years. Like i think what we pointing back to that for such a long time because of what tremendous impact it had and how amazing it was on a narrative level as an example of good sequel. I think it's gonna hit on. So many levels versus like is is is a great game. Seven remake is great. But i don't think we're really going to be having that conversation on it for years to come I do shop to hate us for what it doesn't it's genre. I think it is more of a standout within its field. What i feel like lasts. Partout stands out as a game And as a movie if you wanna be kinda had asked whether it. But i don't really like taken that angle. Because that's like not a fan the whole like oh it's transcends games not just a really good game it's just a really good game and so yeah i think the zach i would guess five fifty seven her haiti's the safe answer to me like the very kind of like. Oh shore is last of us. I sense that they're going to zag though. Yeah i think the answer would probably be between haiti's in the last two. I think you saw both of those games. Take on quite a few game of the year wars last year. Eighty s was and. Yeah like. I think last year for video games when you look at the game of the game of the year nominees is just such a strong year because honestly any of these. Take it home and i'd be like cool. Yeah no that sounds about right. Remade took home. Kind of funny is game of the year right. And that's that's one that i feel like kinda snuck through in in kind of took it out of nowhere but it's one that you look at it and you're like yeah no there's such fervor and people people love this game animal crossing new horizons if you wanna talk about straight up like a great game but also a great game. The had big impact for what last year was an crossing new horizons. I could easily see the conversation around sister. shema is that hits big with fans in one one. The fan voted game of the year For the game awards last year and that'd be one that i would be happy to see. Take home an actual game of the year like panel game of the air. Because i think that'd be big for that game. Because i think that game deserves all the love that gets no matter. What way this goes i. I think you know any of the any of these games deserve it but to go through some of the other categories we got we got outstanding achievement in game direction. The nominees are doses. Shema haiti's half-life alex kentucky route zero tv edition and alaska's part to. Do you have any predictions there. Man i hate kentucky zero t b edition so what else predictions for gain directions specifically. It's tough. I have put on my like dev hat which i don't actually have a depth hat so It's an invisible hat which makes this challenging. I would. I would think maybe half life alex i feel like because it had to navigate such a underutilized space would share the many developers who are working in vr It doesn't really get talked about a lot and even when it does so oft in conversations around. Vr games are. It's really cool like as an experience you know. It's kind of. They have like this different style and cadence to them. I think uh says critics and even just as those listening who are fans like we're still figuring out what we even want from that space and that space is figuring out how to give us what we don't know that we want so it's a lot of guesswork. I think and i didn't play a lot of half like alex but i think it. Is you know people talk about it as a standout in that. Vr space. And i think for that alone. I could see it winning because they kind of had to succeed in very not uncharted territory but like not fully explored territory. Yeah have life. Alex is one of those games that you hear about. Who played it very much. Evangelized in talk about how amazing it is but it's also one of those games that you don't you don't hear hear about in the broader conversation because most people don't have the are in order to play this game ryan so this is this is the game bat when you're talking about game of the year has the the the least reach in the lease people being like. This is the one riley the least amount of votes lisa about amount amount of people that are that are vying for it. And so we're talking about game direction. Yeah i can see alex definitely being a contender. Because that's i think that's an easier. That's easier argument to make in terms of a game design perspective from a from a direction perspective. The way that this the things that this game does for vr. I see people making that argument. My prediction would probably still be between haiti's too. Because i if you're talking about game direction they're the ways in which the the moves hades makes as a as an independent game but then also a game that went through early access that navigated that space extremely well took all the feedback that they got during that period and was able to deliver on a final product that sat world. People got people very excited about it. I think there's a story there that would speak to you. Hey this is how you direct a game. This is how you make this big this thing work in the last part two. I think when you're talking when you're talking about a seeing their vision through and making something that feels big and unique for naughty dog and and took took risks in place that you might not have expected from from naughty dog. I think you make the argument there. I my predictions between one of those two got. Let's see outstanding achievement in game design which the nominees are ghosts. Haiti's half-life alex part to marvel spider man malls morales in game design. Let me what are what are they again. Can you read that more. Time scrolling through. But i'm seeing go sushi. Haiti's half-life alex last part two in marvel's mouse moore marvel spider man. Miles morales. this one see this is this is interesting. Because we're talking about the dice awards and so talking about this rats right after talking about game direction. I see a lot of overlapping argument between the two categories and terms. How you judge them. Yeah i'm a. Do you have any idea how how those are parched out like what's the line like where does direction ended designed begin. We're thinking more in terms of like maybe overarching over the overarching communication. It has to the player versus like the nitty gritty of like. When you're in the moment i would guess would be the distinguishing line there. game direction. I think this is obviously going to change from from person to person as the as the panel said on it game direction icy as what. What is your vision. And how did you fulfill that vision. Right how did he see that through whereas game design. I could see as a. Hey what are the mechanics president in in this game. How did this systems interact with mechanics. How does all this play together. What is the what is the game. Play lube how does how do all the different elements of this game. Play together in a way that creates a file a amazing final experience. I think eighties maybe for that one again. Like i lean heavy unless super. Because i think there are games like frigging brilliant but i think for like breaking down like what where each one shines. I think haiti's is design is really well done in the sense that it has very layered systems that it doesn't like super directly communicates with players. Obviously there's plenty of texts to help you read like what the items in the power of our but kind of just lets you explore and figure it out without leaving you loss which is a really hard thing to do and i think it's the only game on this list again. I didn't spend a lot of time with alex. I found a of scary. It's like it's too surreal. It's to immersive freaked out being vr with that once-off to go back to it. But i think it's the only one on this list that really does that argument with two as well. It ghost applauds. The the wind. I appeal might stand the wind during this award. Show because like everyone talked about that being so clever and like such a well to gesture for the player on where to go. But other than that i feel like it is kind of like very much video game. The video game like it feels like a polished version of a lot of ideas. I've seen before miles some early like it of plays it safe in a lot of ways. Like it's easy to track down the collectibles. It's a little like i think. Both ghosts and miles despite being like really good games like varying degrees there a little bit vanilla between those middle three for looking at the actual s haiti's half live and last of us too. Because i think that the only ones that i guess toe that line between letting the player discover something and also providing the tool set needed to be able to utilize those discoveries that they make. I'm gonna. I'm gonna pull one or two more categories. Let's go with online game of the year. The nominees for this one are animal. Crossing new horizons. Call duty black ops cold war fog is ultimate knockout ghosts who shema and tetris effect connected. This is an interesting one for me. Because i i love that goes to seema is nominated for online game of the year in a nod to legends which i think is really cool because legends goes fuel. Legends doesn't get enough love you know. That's the that's the added added months after and so a lot of people missed out on it but for the folks that that Dove into it and stuck with it. I i think all those folks agree that like. Hey this is an amazing mode. I was enthralled with it when i played through it and play through. The rain was yeah like it changed how you felt about the base game even which i was really surprised to hear you have that that feedback for it but i'm like well games already owned or something going back But yeah that is interesting that in there. Yeah that's such a. did you feel like it. Had specifically strong as multi-player like a co-op online experience that it would that it kind of served itself well in that sense. Oh yeah. I mean. I think i would. I would not be surprised to see them do more work with legends in a feature iteration. Who goes to sima. Like i went goes to comes out though either though either pakistan with another legends mode or even make a different. Go sima game that is straight up online co op. Because i think that mode of itself with the lute system with the raid with how they tackle these different story missions and has that work as a full experience you know even though even those packages as just a mode it feels like a full experience. Yeah no i. i honestly think that there's a. There's a strong future for legends and yeah as an online multiplayer co op game. It is fantastic especially when you want to talk about the rain and how they create moments re to work together with your partner out of out of the nominees right. Yeah i mean. I'm sorry that warzone isn't here. I feel like war zone would be a strong nominee hair but out of the ones listed fall guys is the one i'd go guilty because able new horizons like yes it has. I do the online being amazing. It's painful there's so many. Like i love that game playing a game for a your straight is one of the few games where i rolled credits and i'm still around like i'm playing on today. I'm streaming today like stream it all the time like i love animal crossing new horizons and anyone that loves that game or put. Any of that game knows that there's a lot of it does not take long to list of flaws in this game and online is definitely one of them. It's slow it's complicated. I remember you know. I had covered this game back when i was at i. Jan doing guides. And i had written the like how to do online multiplayer page. That thing was a novel a nakal and got a lot of traffic because no one knew how to do it. No one knew how to do it. And i who wrote the page still. Don't remember some of the information. I'm like if a male you something you need to fly to my island we need to be friends. And you need to my alands like honestly. I didn't even know. I had these feelings within me seeing this year. Mixed me a little mad because it's like it's not that it's like so so terrible but it like doesn't you it while you know. I think it's cool that it has it and it definitely enhances the game like i love being able to visit people. I think the dream code stuff they added is cool like the kiosk and game designs like there are ways this could have been online game of the year if they did it differently but they didn't if instead it's just frustrating. The online was good. At least you can. Of course go to the dice website over interactive dot org and check out all the rest of the nominees. They got plenty of categories. I'm looking. I'm looking at the outstanding achievement in or lost like best. There's a hero family game of the year. Which is stack lineup here. In crossing new horizons. Astros playroom dreams. Fog is ultimately knock out and sack big adventure. Which stack category stack did you were you. A big fan of sack came out. 'cause i thought the only one a big fan. It's like it's fine. I haven't i haven't been in it. Because i'm trying to play time putting my whole apartment might as my dad. Because he isn't play games so like me my boyfriend. My brother and my brother's fiancee try. Four adults with different schedules to be in the mood to play one specific game. It's been slow a slow roll. But i feel like it's the only game that feels like you can really easily play it with like a big family kind of looked the way i'm doing it especially if you have different like ability levels like when i think family game i think a spread of gamers and maybe people that are really like they wouldn't consider themselves gamers but they are down to play some of mario kart or you know all they did we sports like they'll jump in. I feel like it's the easiest one to jump into of all guys that can really competitive like it's a competitive game. I am not good at it. And i play games literally all the time dreams. It's sort of. It's a fun experiment. And i enjoy search stout but i wouldn't say like i would want to sit down with my kid or my cousin. All right whatever do that. Astros playroom really fun but more of a you know it's family game because maybe you don't have a multiplayer game you know it's like family gave you have a sibling next to you but an animal crossing i think is maybe the second in my. I'd say animal crossing might win because you can land and like you know all that stuff but I think is the best for you. Know you're dropping in has easy drop in drop out. You can do online like it and it's simple as well you can also pick people up like i think. That's the most family friendly game but this category is always weird in every award show looked at it and not bit like what does this on here. You know. it's a great family game. A game called it takes to this brings a story number two. It takes two reviews up. I got a review roundup for y'all right now. As at the time. I put this thing together. It was sitting at ninety on metacritic and in eighty seven on open critic. I'm going to start off with sam. Loveridge who at games radar. Who gave it five stars a perfect score and says it takes two is unique experience. That makes the most of what it means to offer truly cooperative. Gameplay your with whoever you're playing with is just as important as that of and cody as get nowhere without robust communication and teamwork but it's blend of reality and fantasy is also refreshingly different different especially within a framework that offers the unique gameplay. That never stops surprising. Mike manati overall games be also gave it five stars score and says it takes two isn't just a series of fun op moments. Some of the most fun. I've ever had with a two player game. It's also a pretty game with the lighting standing out as especially impressive on playstation five. It's a smooth sixty fps experience. I struggle to think of another co op hustler game. That's better maybe portal to you. Even if that's true it takes two belongs on that same tier find yourself a friend or an emotionally distant spouse and spend a little time with it takes to. It'll be some of the most fun you'll have this year. Last will pull from. Andrew reiner at game informer who gave it nine point two five out of ten and says it takes two may not be the platforming juggernaut that inspires to be but a more than makes up for that with its big heart. Wealth in variety in gorgeous imagery all of its individual. Actions are things we've done and other games but when applied to this distinct cooperative approach. They take on a whole new life and are used in in wonderful ways over a long adventure. The actually will have you laughing and screaming at your tv in the story. Stay strong throughout creating the backbone for an entertaining adventure that roars with excitement. Should should you should keep their rosa wars roars with excitement. And should keep you glued to the controller to see if this couple's lost love kmby rekindled. Janet do you have any interest interest in playing. It takes two. Oh i'm so excited play. I'm playing this friday with my brother. Which i guess is like kind of weird because there like a couple or a divorced couple but whatever. That is what it is and yeah. I'm so excited. I played a way out. I loved it. I was one of the people that was like more on that like hard. Eight range for that game I think the scores can fluctuate between like seven and eight. I do think that one was a little bit from what i've seen on this one. This one seems more mechanically polished like for me. Away out was an awesome game because it had like so many lovely moments of what coop. What makes fun. Which is that. you're working together. Which you're also sort of competing in some ways. And i love that way out like really brought that out through. Its many games and without getting into spoilers. I think the story is really interesting. I had expect like. I remember working on bringing out of the prison and then being like what's is we're out you know what's next but it actually really picks up even more from there and gets even better once you once you get out there that you can have the prison. It is the entire premise of the game. So hearing that like this one is even better is really exciting As well as like people tend to say that Light slash various like it has been getting better over time in terms of game so Someone that already like the way out. I'm like yes. I was all in on this as i saw it. He's lied becoming one of those studios. Where when. I see their name when i see. They're working on a project. i'm just already. There may or may not work out. But i'm ready to go. Because i liked work previously so i'm excited to play this and i love that it is like it's basically has either is a platform has platforming elements which i love platformer. So yeah it seems. It seems awesome. You already played it. So what did you think. I loved it. We did a whole games. Cast review on it up this morning and one of the fun things about doing reviews herself. Pre embargo is that you have no idea what other people feel about the game. And i hadn't talked to tim or greg about their feelings on the game and so when when we ended the game games cast is the one person that finished it. And so i was pretty much. The what giving their final giving the final review on it and it was one of those things where i started talking about it. I started off my the first sentence on it. Was this the most. This is some of the most fun. I've had with the game in years and saying that i was like man i really hope other people feel similarly. Because i'm gonna sound like such a crazy person. When i go off about how much i fucking love this game. I liked away somewhere. Do you i. I would probably put it in that eight range i had. I had a lot of fun with it. I thought what the characters and story it was really fun. I thought what they did with gameplay was really fun but yeah it was one of those games. The way i was one of those games were coming out of it. I was like this is great. They have found a niche. It's not like it's not the greatest thing since sliced bread but it seemed had fun with and i look forward to play more games like it. It takes is the game for me from hayes light. That has made me a fan. I'm gonna play whatever game they put on next. I'm gonna continue to follow it. Follow their games because it takes two lives lives up to the expectation and exceeds it by far their obviously things here and there like there. There are certain story choices that are like are. Maybe you could have Quicken this up in like made certain story arcs. Go faster introduced certain things earlier or done certain things with certain characters like those complaints here and there but overall as a game play experience i was blown away for what it does to the co. Op obviously does the away out thing where it's split screen you and your co op partner are solving puzzles or doing things to help each other out along the way but it it totally refines that process and makes it so that they are costly introducing new mechanics and every every level they choose something brand new. That is the overarching mechanic for that level. And the way the way the way in which they play around with those mechanics and change things up and keep keep things fresh and keep things. Fun is awesome the way in which they give players moments to breathe and half fun right like there. There will be times where me my partner. We'll get through this long set of the set piece moments because we're being chased by fucking squirrel or some shit because we're playing his dolls. Try to try to get back to normalcy or whatever we're getting we're being chased by scrolls cool. We just got done with this huge huge set piece. Now we're in this open environment that we could explore and have fun with fuck around with with different things like that stuff comes together and then within all of that they also have tons of mini games and fund. Pdp stuff that you can do. I've had it is filled with fun moments. Filled with distractions is filled. It's filled with a lot of heart and like angel. I think it was andrew in his review right. Who said this. It's it's filled with gorgeous visuals. The game looks excellent Actually knows that that's right. It's a it's a smooth sixty on. Ps five with great lighting great textures. It has kind of a. I don't want to compare compared to pixar. Because i think that puts it on another level in terms expectation but it has has that fun match magical quality when you're talking about animation and what you what you want from that type of family story that is also trying to skill to be family game of the year. I mean the thing. Yes but also nine in there like a few scenes where they very much lean off of the this kid's game and go very hard for adult there are. There is like one scene in particular that greg was talking on the games that like is very fucked up in very like a very much a wow. I can't believe this is happening right now. Sort of seen that is not definitely not a kid appropriate thing. They're also like weird moments of them going hard in terms of like cuss words. And all that stuff. Where where like in ways where i was like you guys could have gone for an e ten plus rating if you change these scenes but because of these scenes you guys are probably rated t which i think is hilarious. I don't have a problem with it. But i just found it to be such peculiar thing for a game that very easily could be could could have gone for the family game of the year thing which who knows you think. A lot of people like in this review roundup mentioned like how. It's saks up against other cobb games and oddly enough Not listened to you. But i had looked at some of the review at the gamer. That kirk did and he couched it in the same way that i think it was was it mike. Yeah with the cold comparison. Like that. Which i think is funny. You know you had mentioned like this is very inside baseball for like those listening but like when you're in media and doing some embargoed yeah you do have that like like anxiety of like okay. Am i going to be on the below ends leg. And you know that's what you just have to trust your on opinion you know and just go for it and like if you see them looking out liar. It is what it is but it is. It's nice to like no other people think but it's also funny because when you like start to really get into criticism you'll read other people's work after the fact and it's a lot of the same language it's like whoa same thought and i think that speaks a honing that that crap of criticism but bringing back to their portal to compare is this the best op experience. You've had and if not if you're not you're just the why i mean. Yeah like there's been an. Here's the thing. Here's the caveat. Here's the caveat. I've not play parole to co op. I play policing player in loved it. But at the time i didn't have somebody to play play co-op with and playing this game made me my co partner go. Yeah let's fucking play portal to after this because we we want we want more of this. We wanna play more coop games. Like this and puerto to you was the one that came to mind and also brothers two sons which is another like game. Neither of us had played in. So we're like okay cool. That's on the agenda now. Playing puerto to and brothers tale two sons to play after this but as of now. Yeah this easily. The best i've ever played is not even close as long. It's ridiculous that many but not that many the fact that like you and so many other reviewers are saying that so confidently is pretty cool. And i'm i'm excited about this because i you know we all have our own little like things. In games that really click for us and one of mine is being in a really big world in. This has that so. I'm like yes. Scarves nightmare i'm like i want. I won't be a little small as small in real life won't be small. And then i want everything to be giant and it's like cool and it's crazy exit. What i like about that is. It adds excitement to the mundane. A you know. A normal room is suddenly like really exciting. Because you're looking at it from this different perspective and open the gameplay moments so you'll love this game you're going to have what's your game of the year right now is this is. This is it and lithuania yet. But like i mean the other game for me would have been hit me in three. Those are obviously my to these. Are the two games. That i love the most this year so far. But i expect another game to come through improbably this like critic fantasy draft. Whatever the hell y'all call it. Who had this game not me. I think it was greg. I'm i'm typing in and right now. I'm pretty sure. Greg was the one that got that. Got this game. Because i i stayed away from it knowing that a way out. Kind of had mixed reviews like good reviews but not amazing and i was trying to stuff that i thought was very safe and it takes say for me. Yeah no greg was the one that got it takes too. So greg is gonna score big points on this because right now ninety metacritic. I think it might be a little bit lower on open critic eighty-seven but still very good score for that fantasy draft. So congratulations greg miller on that one. Let's talk about story number. Three an exco swire tokyo director Muira opens a studio this from jordan ullman over at fan favorite expert director economic. Knock mira has announced that she is opening her own. Indie studio is developing a new game. A short documentary from game spark in and arch oppal or archetypal Which is which is available on. Youtube follows nakimora as he tours. Abandoned buildings in japan nakamura revealed that she left in developer tango gameworks due to health health troubles quote. I started wondering whether there wasn't a way for me to make games while feeling better. She says she continues quote. I took the decision to quit before it was too late after. Leave after leaving moore received over two thousand messages on lincoln offering studio visits and support. She used these opportunities to understand quote. What made a good working environment and quote quote. I decided to use that experience to open my own small studio and built. My nakamura says later in the documentary nakimora adds that she wants to build a diverse team noting that after her three presentation to remind people right like this is a couple years ago where during the three she was. The one that came out to present goes wire tokyo and she was the one with the quirky personalities. Everybody loved her. She was after her presentation. Eighty percent on the messages she received from women. Happy to see a female game director or game creator getting onstage and showing her game nakamura rounds off documentary by adding that she wants to make a game. Full of dark jokes compares herself to deadpool in june. Two thousand twenty nakamura told japan that she has plans to pitch a newell comedy game to capcom after teasing potential collaboration with platinum games heke in october of two thousand nine hundred and fast word now. Obviously a new kami doesn't sound like you'd be dark jokes as odd. Assume that that's what she's working on now. But that's a fun tidbit for you. Janet thoughts on this one new as always better so hell. Yeah opened that studio your thing. I've lately been just very getting really excited about seeing different developers. Just go and have whatever career move. They see fit. I mean at the end the day. I think it's important that us as game fans in game critics at the at the end of the day default to supporting developers who make the games that we love or hate or whatever but they if you are career and like what. I get excited to do every day. So if this is the right move for her like i love that she taught is so transparency. With all of that where it's like. Hey i had to step back. Because i couldn't do this and be okay and like i love that. She mentioned to that. I took the decision before it was too late. Because so often you see people burn out or quit or whatever personal things. Come up. That caused them to kind of leave. The industry like it's not on their own terms or it's you know we've all been that person that like you took the day off but you really need the day off like three days ago and you're like fried So i love that. She was proactive. In this i love that. You mentioned the representation power. Unlike the going other studios in trying to find like what makes good work practices we. This reminds me a lot of My gosh now. I'm blanking on the name. Raymond studio that got announced last week at haven and she mentioned it being a haven for developers or creators. So i you know especially if someone that is now independent as well like i really get jazzed about people pursuing like the best way to thrive within capitalistic society. And just being like you know what i'm gonna make this like it's going to be different and it's gonna have like i'm going to try to avoid the pitfalls at i've seen at previous studios or try to create an environment where people can thrive and feel creative and and do their thing and again. I love the notes. The diversity element As someone. Who's a woman. I also was really excited. You don't see a women on stage a lot Jump to show. I'm often not talking to another woman saying well. It's just the it's the case often. The lone person there. So i love that. She mentioned that as an ethos and you know in a way. It sucks that so often when you're a marginalized creator and a space. You have to be the one that like leads. The way of change like it'd be nice if someone in power that you know or had had more social status. But it's like. I'm going to do this and i'm gonna you know be this changed and i'm just like beacon for women in the industry and like yeah i just. I love everything about it. Obviously i don't know her personally. I've never spoken to her. She's the know who i am. But i get like a really good vibe. And i love that. She is talking about things like diversity. Work ethic health as part of game development. Like i think the being able to be a creator who comes out and talks about that stuff and our own path is so important so often. We're seeing studios. Good work practices really talk about that as part of their process. So yeah. I love everything about this. This is awesome. yeah. I'm right. I'm right there with you. And i think especially coming off the jade raymond news as she. She's partnering playstation. she's opening up studio. I think is what you're saying. It's awesome to see to choose to women lead these lead to studios this way and start from the ground up and be able to define what they're seeing blaze that trail and so this is cool. It's nice. I agreed with you to that. New is always welcome. The her being able to open up her own independent studio and be basically set the tone and being like. I wanna make a game full of dark jokes. And i'm gonna. I'm gonna own this. And i want this to be something that's my own. I think that's also very exciting. Very cool deadpool comparison. So love the deadpool comparison to so i look for to see what we get out of that janet before we get to story number four. I wanna tell you about our sponsor. Of course you can go to patriots dot com slash. Kinda funny games where you can get the show ad free and speaking of ads. This episode of kind of funny games daily is brought to you by door dash. Did you forget that one thing at the store. Now you can get snacks. 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But not least we're brought to you by game attack. If you best friends didn't know our friends at game attacker trying the impossible become the most sub to streamers on all of twitch if not for just a month hashtag march to the top is their attempt to prove to the world that equality audience is just as incredible as a gigantic audience. So far game attack with only thirty thousand followers has more subs than dr lupo lyric. Poke main and midkiff sitting in the top. Seventeen channels on all twitched. Today they are creating their own g fuel flavor. Then later sean we eating. We'll be eating every item on the taco bell menu. and tonight that sounds dangerous campbell. Eight a with. John reid singer john and grace going head to head in god of war twenty eighteen which. I'm also curious about that because that is not a multiplayer game. So i wanted to. What the rules. That are is a speed run. Probably say sent me to be worshipped. Like a god g ones love to see the best friends in their chat remember. That's going down onto a shot to be slash game attack very stuff. It's really cool. I really do want to note that got award thing. It's about that sounds like fun time. They're able to figure out how experience i've ever had got out of war. Twenty eighteen taken out as many valkyries as possible. Oh are they like now now. Now i'm guessing that's just it'd be a great way to do who can take out all the factory valk faster or do like i buy. Some of us can't get any bulky so like one would be an achievement for for some of us. Yeah that sounds really are so hard. There is so difficult story number four. Know what's more difficult than taking out. Valkyries keeping mario from dying at the on march thirty first twenty twenty one Story number four nintendo confirms download. Codes for super mario. Three all stars will work after march. Thirty first this ad at aegean diff- despite nintendo's plans to remove super mario three all stars from intendo switches e shop and to cease production of physical copies march thirty first the company has confirmed that retail download codes will still be valid past that date as reported by nintendo's japan. Hq confirmed that these codes we redeemable after april and it would be safe to assume that this would be the same for western markets as well. It's a small bit of good news for those who have yet to purchase super mario three all-stars but those interested shouldn't waste time picking up the game if they wished wished to as march thirty first and if they wished to you as march thirty first only seven days away janet garcia. Mario is dying in about a week. Are you sad about it. You know. I think grief hits us all in different ways. I don't know if i fully processed what is going to happen tomorrow. I do know that at least two people sent me if you have not seen it that fake direct ad that says like come to mario's demise or something like how it's really good. I'll try to find incentives you but yeah this is you know this is weird and i think it's one of those things too like a lot of people who aren't as in the know as we are you know like you and i and even the people watching like if if you're someone who like constantly consuming game news like that's already a really intense like tier of gaming to be at so like for normal people who are just like i just i'm just hanging on. I walk into the target. It's i really worry that they're going to find out about this game and be like i don't understand and then explaining it. I just feel like you ever have almost like second hand embarrassment like now. I have to tell you about this dumb stuff. And then you're gonna be like doesn't make any sense and i have to be like yeah i know right and it's just like you're you're where i already have been for the last year. Yeah this is. This is still such an odd decision. I think deep down a lot of us hope that maybe nintendo would change their mind with the same time. Like i think would that be more of a jerk. Move to like fake out that you're gonna pull it and then not pull it so it's just such an odd situation and i really really hope that this doesn't become a trend for nintendo. I don't really understand why this occurred. I guess the answer is what it is to everything which is capitalism. but like. i haven't seen this thing is going to be a thing like i mean to the to the capitalism point right. I think the the idea is. Hey let's boost up sales for the fiscal quarter and so tell people that they can't get this thing after marginally first so that they show up in boosts boosts boost our sales for this quarter so we can have good reports and then maybe down the line. I still expect them to maybe piecemeal it where they end up. Selling mario sunshine. Mario sixty four and mario galaxy separately on the store. Maybe like a year from now. Maybe that's when they introduced. Yes if they do that. I would like to see galaxy to appear. That would be nice but yeah it's also like this is kind of a weird fact. I mean it's good to always confirm details like this because you want to know all the information you can so i think this recording is definitely important. But it's like who is that person that's like. I'm going to wait until in the know enough to know this but not to just by it already like get paid thirty first and you're going to buy it like april first or something like maybe your situation but yeah if you have the codes you can redeem them like if you are buying a digital code first and then you're gonna put it in later or if you like i. I remember someone asking me about this. And being like or they're gonna just like pull them off from the storm gonna like is in the back and just throw them in the dumpster but like once they sell out you know like target a game separate cetera. There there's not going to be more coming in. So i did like the idea of people having this catastrophic almost like a snap but these mario cartridge just just snap it away. These fucking disintegrated the thin air. And i was like please miss this star. We don't hear you don't have the game in your switch. Just stops working god. Could you imagine we're just playing our switches. The march march thirty. First dust evaporates from your switch. And it's like what the fuck. And the mario game just freezes stops. Yeah you had time to beat it and you didn't know you played played. Have you messed up. You should be beat. Mario by now. I really hope that they do find a way to make these available again because this. This is such a bummer. And i the the thing that i think is even more of a bummer. Is that mario. Thirty five is going to be unplayable. You know they're gonna shut down those arisen. I think that's that's that's fucked up. I don't like it at all. Stop taking away. Games are last days a quick one. We've got details on. Hit me in threes next deal. See this story number. Five personal at aegean iona. Active has announced seven deadly sins. A multi part paid paid for expansion for hit me and three as the title implies. Seven deadly sins. We made up of seven. New content. packs are themed around the capital vices of greed lust gluttony sloth wrath envy and pride each one will include a visually distinct contract sin. Sin themed on lockable suit. I love. I love a sin. Themed lockable that sounds really cool and at least one sin themed object that can be used both in the new contract and across all missions in the hitman trilogy delivered episodically seven deadly sins. We'll start with act one. Greed which launches on march thirtieth this pack features new escalation called the greed enumeration set in dubai notable feature. Is that will allow players. To carry certain special items over from stage to stage of the esscalation additionally players will be able to unlock the golden the golden rapacious suit and make use the greedy little coin and devils cain. Items pricing has not yet been announced but when seven deadly sins launches players will have two options to buy to buy each season of sins as it arrives or by all seven. Parts of a season pass for a discounted price is pretty cool. We had conversations on kennedy earlier when he threw his first releasing about what else he looked. Like for this game. They talked about how they're not releasing new maps And i think this is a cool idea to have it be like the series of female escalations themed around sin which i the seven deadly sins which i think is a fun idea. Very very weird indifferent for hitman. But i'm down for anything since suits are going to look like. Oh man is. Are we going to probably get like this hitman dude and the made costume like is this thing. I do like having a soup for each each of the seven deadly sins. So less is the last one has to be like soft agent. Forty seven budi outfit. Booty shorts chat no-shirt ashley shops. I like it gluttony. Maybe like what's the thing they call it like. It's not bad but it's probably probably like maybe a food covered thing. He's pockets when we pulling fingers. Great place place candy on the ground to lead your goals on your fingers and which hand you know i like i like the idea of there being a sloth outfit that just makes you slower as the whole thing. Yeah that's what. I was thinking of the or maybe it'd be like a onesie like comfy like a comfy laying or your Read assuming sumit of money with sumo suit says schweik for For gluttony echinacea to uber for for Gluttony as well as in there. Yeah that makes that makes sense makes more sense than did apron jun-kyu. I'm very excited to see what the seven looked like. But the release of hitman. Seven deadly sins is so far away. If i wanted to momma shops today we're gonna look the official list of software across each and every platform as listed by the kind of funny games daily show hosts and every weekday. Ddt okay out today. Speaking of hitman and lust repeat them off is out today on xbox one. I want to know what that's about. Oh you know it probably means rip them off like money not rid them off. As in age agent forty six clothing paradise lost his also out for xbox tales from borderlands is out on switch. Love live school idol festival after school activity. Y y home meeting is out today on. what a name hell breaches is tale. Switch golf really ouzou out. To the on switch. Tesla forests is out on kazak. Jack is out today. on steam. New dates for violin is coming steam on april twenty second. Kung-fu kick ball early. Access launches april thirteenth knights squad to switch xbox pc in april on april fourteenth and then totally reliable delivery service is coming to steam on april. First janet. of course folks can right into patient on dot com slash. Kinda funny games where they can get the show ad free but they can also riding with questions and their squad ups. I got a question. Here from jordan ruin who writes in and says shit microsoft. Possibly buying discord worry. Sony at all also with sony and microsoft trading blows. Are you worried about them. Buying up too much. Thank you and love. You love you jordan. Ruin janet. Are you worried at all about microsoft discord. Both from the from the sense of the. So sony. Losing out on that potential partnership and also from microsoft buying all these different studios in acquisitions microsoft really needs to like get it together. So i'm here. I'm here for anything. That could be construed as good news for microsoft. And i think someone has both consoles like i don't believe in the console. Wars is a thing. Like i had a sibling and they just got the everyone combined our powers. That's why didn't have an xbox for a long time. Because i didn't have a third sibling sibling. I would have been on microsoft a lot earlier. But i didn't intend to inflation but all that being said i think also microsoft seems to play this. Acquisition seems to play of their strange. They are all about like reading. Streamline services for gamers is sort of like the been their bag as of late obviously they are trying to beef up the exclusive stuff but until they can really do that. I think what they're trying to really use to distinguish themselves is like services and ease of use right. I mean their whole thing with smart delivery leans into that the whole thing with like the. Ui not changing lanes into that. It's like hey are you. it's kind of like. Why have an iphone right. It's like i don't want to think about note thoughts just iphone. No thoughts just apple. I'm not going to look for the best phone. I'm going with this. I think microsoft's leading into that so like you know. That's why it just sort of what your new box. That's it And i think like this court is so often used by gamers for a variety of things from my connecting to voice chat. So yeah i mean. I think this makes sense and my worry. They'll all by everything more worried than i already am for every other monopoly not monopoly. That exists in this world. I mean so. Many things are owned by. Just one thing like it's sort of is the way of the world. So i don't really have concerns in that sense and i will say that i haven't been in discord long enough to really speak to potential specific concerns that i have for the microsoft acquisition like every acquisition. I think we won't know if this is good or bad for like discord or for like gamers until we see what changes are perceivable to us from the outside in and i mean in terms of the microsoft acquisition right like the reports have been that they've just been in talks right which i think you know could could lead to something down the road but as of this point. I'm not like you know. I'm i'm not writing off. The discord is going to stop by microsoft yet but to the ideal of it to the idea that microsoft isn't talks by to continue to acquire. Do all these different things. I do get nervous with the idea of everything. Everything getting consolidated in an industry like marsov being the owners of all these different apps and all these different obviously microsoft already does own a bunch of shit right because it's their microsoft they fucking run the world but the continual consolidation of the game industry specifically. I can't be worrying for the idea of that puts things into fewer umbrellas. Meaning that there's there's less diversity in in less Different types of products being put out there. And you're you're. I think that eventually causes stagnation in terms of if everything is a saw every studios and microsoft studio. Then what does that. What does that do for for the industry. What do you expect to see in terms of new products. New ideas all. What does that do for competition. All this shit for should playstation be worried about about D box buying discord. I mean i don't think places she was gonna do anything with discord anyway. You know that that's not really been the way that playstation has been rolling. And even with that. I think i don't know discord for microsoft would be more. I think would be more than xbox. I think discord for microsoft would feed in more more more so toward the broad based business of microsoft in the way that they could use a they could use a better voice chat solution because microsoft skype microsoft has things but discord is hidden. Technology can probably prove to them from more of a mark soft enterprise thing more so than a. Hey how do we improve. Xbox thing i think work both ways but i do think that there's a bigger idea there that's at play that goes beyond just them trying to keep up competition with saudi. So that's where that's where i stand with. Now it's time to squad up. Of course you can read into paycheck. Dot com games. Your squad ups just like snooty coochie did snooty coochie right with a lot of come. Joined the blue milk. Mommy's wars the old republic and start your own star. Wars legend with the likes of taylor swift bicycle. Mice ical in kind of funny. Kevin also greg into log on and promote some some officers because nobody can join the guild you want to join the c. c. st coochie wrote in. And they didn't say whether this is their username or the name of the delaware this is snooty. kuchis is their username. The kill is the the blue milk. Mommy's the okay. So guild is the boo boo milk. Marque moms why. Think that then makes way wrote in with shoney's which i assume. Is there fucking username so stingy. Coochie is their earliest reading in. Shoney's shoney's if you wanna play with them on star wars is is there gamertag and then the blue milk mommy's is clan if you wanna come to play some star wars older public and how so many after the last. I said a lot of things teaching wife lottery after game. Gamertag doesn't matter then. I don't know man. I dunno it's shown. Is tony either way. I don't like it. And i don't like a lot of fun. You've been enjoying kevin. Yeah what do you know what the clan futures are like. What what do people get when they joined the blue milk. Mommy's is it more x. P. when you play each other and Yeah i think. I think yeah we can go and do things together. One gets oh. Mike was just pronouncing his name. Snooty kuchis we were remissed reading the name god. So name is shown shoney's but michaels misreading is smooch snoopy's kuchis was. His name was shame. Sean sean is i is. I named janis. Yes now finding a complex. You're wrong where you got wrong as he got it wrong. So you can correct later for those listening on podcasters around the globe in washington youtube dot com slash gains You're wrong doing weird thing where i am sitting in your wrongs from a week ago but usually delete those and so. I don't know how that's happening but going through going through. Lucas says the sandwich chains. Subway use to serve customizable pizzas at select stores as well wait out of their space with mcdonald's line limited pizza thing one day in the nineties or something but being sold at subway doesn't make it a sandwich i think with argument was being made. Cookies sandwiches But we stick ham in them. Would they be. Yeah prost but you could if you make the instead of the bread. They're just cookies. Kind of like you can have an ice cream sandwich right and we all know what that looks like. It's not really you know it doesn't have the properties of normal sandwich but it has the sentiment of a sandwich. I love ice cream sandwiches so much. You ever have an ice cream sandwiches so fucking good. Yeah that's gonna hold hurt them nicely. Eat it though because you got to fight through that. never once. Dan wants this dental care together one day but until that shit like you know worry about this shit. Don't worry we'll get there get there. That's it for your wrongs. There weren't any actually wrong. There is breaking news stuff but of course we'll cover that tomorrow and kind of funny games daily but for now nothing nothing crazy. Nothing that i could verify out stating team tomorrow to find out how crazy the breaking news Tomorrow's hosts if you want to tomorrow aren't going to be tim into more hussein from gamespot. That's right if you're watching this live right now on twitch after. This is snowball mike. Playing some of that fall guys new season with who kevin sad boy berry berry always. Doing is discord shah. He's going to have to come in here to run the polls show so that's an interesting little hop back and forth the we'll have a good time. Of course this is of funny games daily here. tv. Oh he's here playing. I'm playing mike. See just get ready. We're flying pc. That's a that's where all the customs server stuff happens service wrestles. I i play with guys won a third person. oh yeah we're going to need lots of threes threes. 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261: Kahlief Adams: Red Dead Redemption 2, Fallout 76, Darksiders 3, Assassins Creed Odyssey, Tetris Effect, Magic Leap, Warframe Switch

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261: Kahlief Adams: Red Dead Redemption 2, Fallout 76, Darksiders 3, Assassins Creed Odyssey, Tetris Effect, Magic Leap, Warframe Switch

"Beat is pump in my heart is thumping and wherever you are whenever you are. And however, you happen to be listening. We're so glad you've chosen that you in two D L C special. You'll one of our Deeks in sneaks using this podcast who work off your thanksgiving dinner, perhaps value through a workout run. Maybe you're just going back to work after the long holiday or maybe you're not even in America. Maybe you're just enjoying us. Whatever the case we're going to be in your ear holes for ninety plus minutes of gaming goodness. Because DLC is your downloadable commentary for the week delivered the way we love it to be and that is completely free. Thanks to our sponsors this week, Brooklyn, third love and Leno. Do. They bring the show to you deal. See, of course, the show all about games in their many forms games played on desktops, laptops, and consoles. Also games that involve dice luck and cardboard I'm your host, Jeff Kenna, that's filled with two. And one t and I'm joined as always by my friend slash co host slash nemesis. The guy who is the stuffing to my Turkey. Mr. Christian, Spicer hill Christian. Hey, man, it was wild out there. You know, you had that four K TV. I had one hand on it. I peed on it to claim it as mine, but you took it home anyway. But I got the box and my kids were excited till they realize I peed on it. I mean, it was our are black Friday Christian. I have a tradition we go out on black Friday. So that he can pee on things. And. Tradition that we have we don't buy anything just. It's just our little claim it and keep walking. Lack friday. Oh, man. We're going to talk about black Friday. We're gonna talk games. It is an extraordinary time of year Sony. People are are getting new games for the holiday season or taking advantage of deals, and we have been playing a ton of stuff ourselves. It's going to be a fun one today and mostly because we have one of our favorite guests back with us. You know, the deal see always stands for your downloadable, NADA and your downloadable Christian. But this week I'm excited because once again deal see stands for die live continue. Because from these spun on me podcast, our friend Khalif Adams is back with us. Hey Khalif with a boy saute on the tippy. I want to give you good tidings and cheer from wis- coast. Thank you so much for having me again. It's our pleasure. We're big fans of you. And what you do. And it's always fun. We don't see each other often enough. But it's great to have you on at least virtually so we can hang in video games for a little bit. Why don't know if I can have Christian come over to the house now because he's peeing on TV's though. That's that's that's a little bit new didn't know that this hadn't seen you both at a while. Yes. This is a new revelation of of how our relationship has all changed. Remember, our last hug and real life. I peed secretly in your pocket and build onto your TV when you got home. So no big deal. But this is a great bit that I'm thoroughly invested in loving this. Hope hopefully, it continues future episodes. This was the triumph the insult dogs. Not funny. Cousin Christian the peon thing guy. Deal for me to peon is what he says I. All right. Let's let's get that behind us and move into the show. What we always do with story of the week. The story. Week. We store the week is the part of the show where we make our case for the most important stories that happened in the world of games this week, and you can always submit stories for consideration by visiting our sub read that is five by five deal dot Reddit dot com. Slim, pickings this. He get his holiday weekend. Bigly just coming off a big forty week in the United States. All the stories are really about deals everywhere. You look, but you know, we still have some interesting discussions and cliff. You our guests you get first pick of stories. Sorry. I jumped the gun I jumped on a little bit. One of the was dropped on the docket. This week was the one about e getting Pok Mon Gottschee. So first of all shutt-, I'll Roker for not knowing how to pronounce easy. It's not a hard one to get. I think it's that's not. It's not exactly, you know, not phonetic. It's right there. I mean e as. Approve that too. Is a love that man. He still doing God's work. A little slower because it actually makes me feel young again. It's one of those things that I had as a youngster Tom Gottschee that is for folks who don't know what that is. You have not had one of these wonderful toys. It is basically like the egg bring the egg home and treated as your child task that you got when you were in school. If you're that old. And his literally that you basically have this Monsignor pocket, and they're gonna have e version of it that you can kind of take care of and make sure it doesn't die or, you know, continuing with the previous conversation poop and all the other stuff. It's interesting. I like stuff like this. I think things like pretty cool that they kind of bring it back in kinda share it for the next generation coming up the other actually making a pocket monster for Pok, Mon, right? That's pretty cool. And as you mentioned, the original Tom Gottschee released back in nineteen ninety six, and it was all the craze back, then I'm too young to remember, of course. But no, I'm not very well. But yeah, it was it was I guess mobile gaming before mobile gaming. It was you know, we got to log in and do a stupid thing. Every so often or your Tom Gottschee dies, and you were rewarded with I guess, very bad pixel graphic smiles from your Gottschee, and that was all the we cared about back. Then for some reason. Well, bring it back. It looks like just in Japan at this point, the Overby Christians house. You know what I mean? Because one of these. Bad voids is making it over here. You're going to import one you're going to do it. Yeah. I mean, maybe three one for me one for each of my daughters to to win into it. It'll be too old fashioned for them. They're real into started to jump the gun with this. But my kids and my oldest is in kindergarten and her whole elementary school. It seems like they're real into a backpack. Charms all the kids have Bingol dangles, boys and girls both. Are you telling me that I can have a coke? Talk about kids Dingle dangles, do I'm just saying. China get past the beginning of the show is what I'm saying. Sorry. Bits little bit. Yeah. All right. Bits and pieces. Did you have the whole like this again the school back to like junior high school and then right in ties school stuff? Did you guys have like the whole beeper chain thing beeper chains like pagers Japan, a pager? Yeah. Right. And that the way that we determined to have the coolest pager was the chain that you had that was tach to your beeper your neck or on your belt. It was weird because it was around. It would like attached to your pocket had like a little clamp at the end into an attached to your pocket. And it was like everyone had like really short Monica. Lls. Beeper hang on your built in the chain would hang on. And you just attach it to your pants somewhere really small chain. But the thing was at least in the Bronx. They had like in the Bodega 's would have like small spots were you just see like all these beeper changes laid out in a row, and it would be different kinds. It was like the fat wrote chain ones you have like a herringbone chain one. Then you had some that relates themed with like it was like thunder cat one. That was just like all all like, the sort of omens, but connected to each other a chain would onto your. I'm just wondering I was like, my the only one that remembers that might be an east coast thing, we did not have that were where I was or at least maybe I just wasn't cool enough to even know about it. That's possible. Very remember. I never had a pager. I do remember those a wallet change f-. But it was for your pig. Do remember like iphones for started to is called like apple picking right? People would steal people's iphones. People steal pagers 'cause they'd run up still your pager. So you keep it on a chain. So you could take it out and look at it without somebody running by and stealing your pager. Well, it's funny because I guess there's always whatever that thing is at your time. There's, you know, the cool ones, and there's a there's a fashion element to all this stuff. I I'm sure there's gonna be a whole generation of kids that are gonna talk about you know, what was the coolest. Fidget spinner. You know, like, the, you know, it'll be whatever it is. And we didn't I didn't have the the chain on the on the pagers. But we definitely had some. Gotcha. I didn't even really get into. Gotcha too much. Personally. I'm just not a pet sky. Anyway is too much work. I will pass on this as well. But they're going to retail for about twenty bucks. Twenty three hundred is about twenty bucks, and they'll go on sale in the end of January in Japan. I suspect because this is generating so much style. Jet and press coverage here in the states. That we will shortly here of the United States version that's going to happen because it would be shocked if it if it doesn't. But there wasn't original Pok Mon. Gottschee that was released back in nineteen ninety eight could chew and this is kind of a throwback to that. So Christians already on record saying he he wants a Khalifa you're gonna you're gonna get back into the nostalgia for one of these bad, boys. If you can't no. The one thing. I do what I if they do bring anything back. That's even close to something like this. I want a new version of the VM us that used to get in the Dreamcast, Abby. I still haven't won those. I don't know where I think my mom through all that stuff away. She was like get out get out of the house to go to tickle your garbage with you. It was like the fresh prince when when jazz always got thrown out of the house. But it was like I want that. I want that VM you something that has like an actual purpose. Besides just having the whole like look at my pet Di really slow deaths kind of stuff, but that'd be cool. They bring that back down for that this whole thing just feels like obligation to me. And I can't I mean, I already have I already have the the. World of warcraft app on my phone where it's like every day. You can send your followers often do thing. And it's so there's so much executive like I gotta remember that day. And I spent I gotta have enough resources in the game to be able to use the app, and it's just I can't I can't kids both like dangling from my backpack. And I have to feed them every day. Like, you're six you can talk and like. You make it very strong point cushion. We got the ultimate Tom achieve as what we did like hits. Now, they're the best expense. These are twenty bucks. Even when you import him from Japan Arza Infinity costs mine just volved we have lightning bolt now. So I'm feeling pretty good for you. Nice. What is your story of the week cushion? So I mean, it is it's post deals time. But this is coming out during cyber Monday. But because everything's online even black Friday cyber Monday. But there were some killer deals on consoles and stuff this holiday season with XBox getting into fficials kind of priced up price drop during the Mexico City announcements. But in the bundles, you had competing base non-pro or x level bundles hitting that one ninety nine price point Xbox One s with Minecraft PlayStation, four with Spiderman, and then they also XBox reduced. The one x price by hundred bucks, a forty dollar fifty dollar sale on places for pros. Maybe in the switch had a bundle with Mario Kart. Eight deluxe in there were tons of games on sale. So I'd love to get your opinions on what you think. The big three were thinking Khalif in terms of these bundles and reductions this holiday season, and then I always like knowing people's halls. I'm curious if you partook. Well, I mean, the the best thing for anybody at this point is to be able to see any of the prices come down. So that if you were on the fence about snagging, something you don't have an excuse pledge. You know, what I mean, like if you're really thinking about jumping into this generation, and I know there's a lot of folks who wait really late into generation to jump in. And then wind up copying something and playing all the backlog of all the wonderful games that are out there the Spiderman bundle the price drop on that. Also seems weird. But also feels like games now in the past. Let me think two three years everything goes on a really like huge dip like three months after it's been released. So that whole thing is like throwing me way off to to see the actual thing or three days of less than a week. I mean, one of the biggest takeaways from me of this black Friday is that fallout seventy. Six was on a massive discount. I mean, we we're days not weeks since that was released. The and I mean, there's a whole number of games that have come out very recently that were on big discount of arise foreshadow, the tomb raider assesses. Creed odyssey all had significant discounts on black Friday. And I'm sure cyber Monday as well. Seventy six feels like a precipitous decline. I mean, it was forty bucks from a sixty dollar game that came out less than a week ago. What do you make of that cleave? I don't know if that's them giving up on this game this early like, I know I know they can't be doing that. They just can't live. They have stuff in the pipeline. Right. And it's interesting because I always think of when we see games have bad launches I think of no man's sky. And I think of how much work they've done to build goodwill to bring that game back from the dead. Right. And I don't think they've ever gotten the same amount of people back that they had during the initial first month's. But you know, we've seen a couple of games. Do this really had terrible launches or had not great content out of the gate and then come back. But I don't think fallout has the legs for this. Which is which is interesting in and of itself. I the industry go ahead. No, no, no question. I think the industry I think fallout has a legs for this. And I think elder scrolls online is Bethesda as example of sticking with the game with a bad launch. No content. But I think the industry has. Moved to a point where us gamers, aren't as may be patient as we once were because there's this the Daleus of games, whereas even just two years ago, another tons of games last year and even two years ago, but not as many felt like they were lifestyle games as service game. So now, it's if seventy six doesn't catch on, you know, will people give it a shot six months eight months year from now when in over the course of that eight months, you're going to get red dead online every single game that comes out in February twenty nineteen anthem and all the rest in everybody's going to be these big forever games. I don't know how you get people to take the plunge on your old forever game. Without maybe rebranding, it a relaunching it like marvel heroes no longer with us game. But you know, they did that after their first year to get good reviews. They called it something else. Omega. Whatever it wasn't kind of relaunched it. I don't know. I don't know how you survive. This the same way that people used to. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, I have no idea how any of this is determined. It. Feels like it's too abrupt move to have it not have been planned weeks in advance. So I don't know if they just knew pre-sale numbers, or if this is even about sales numbers at all. You said rough launch. None no doubt. It's a rough launch of from a critical perspective from the sort of reaction from the community from everybody who's played in critics and audiences light. I mean, there's lots of people that like the game for sure, but it has I think it's averaging very middling scores very low scores. And but we see at least in the first week of these big temple games that doesn't usually mean it didn't launch well, unanimous, even a game like Noman sky. It's so. Many hobbies. I mean, it was big initial success. And I have no idea. I mean, they haven't released any numbers for follow even seen the NPD's yet. It's much too recent. But I would be very curious. I'll be very surprised, honestly, if this didn't at least have a pretty nice launch. It may not be showing the sustained numbers that you would get from game. That was you know, top the top of the heap as far as feedback. But. I just don't know how these things are determined. I don't know if this if we can read into it from a oh my gosh. It didn't do well. So they slash the price right away. Maybe that is the case maybe it is. But I I really don't know how that's determined in how earliest determine if they had data all the way back that this idea just wasn't hitting for people. And so they weren't getting the presale numbers that they thought I don't know a way to influx player base to a game. That's new right? This is the time when people will be home from the holidays college kids and kids in high school have a good chunk of time off. So this is when you get people in an invested in the game. And you get parents to buy it for Hannukah Christmas holiday time shopping and the way to do it is to get in front of people with the price cut. I mean, red dead was on sale places as well in that game. No one is saying, ooh, that's not the qualities. Reddin sales invoices. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't a stark 'as like tomb raider and some of the older games. But you could get it. I forget the exact price. So I think part of black Friday's just this happens what I feel bad for. And we talked about this off line, Jeff, and I do want to know if you guys bought anything. So I want to circle back to that. But it's like smashes big enough to be smash. But how do you how are you just caused for her? Were you a game? All of this isn't simmer. Fourth everybody. Patients. We're gonna get us essence creed shuttle, the tomb raider, God of war Spiderman you get all of those games for less for one hundred twenty bucks. Does give us two weeks. I don't know. I mean, I'm rooting for those guys I feel like that is really a passion project. I've never been a huge fan of the just cause games. But I feel like a passion project and I'm rooting for that game. But yeah, it's it's an odd oddly positioned one of my big takeaways from black Friday. And again, this is personal to me in my Twitter feed is just how many anecdotally just how many people seem to have leapt on the PlayStation VR bundle. It really hit that critical mass price point that that, you know, impulse buy price point of like, okay. There's enough good experience here that I can just for two hundred bucks. I can justify it and that bundle. Which doesn't have the move controllers. Granted. But has two of the best games for. Yes. We are available now moss and astronauts rescue mission that I just saw so many people telling me that they jumped on it. And they're getting into VR for the first time now, and I'm I'm really. Excited to see if we get any kind of sales numbers for PS VR, and hopefully that juices development of more titles, and maybe hopefully sequel for Astro too. I saw so many pictures of people sending you tweets of their their nucleus VR bundles. Yeah. Well. All of them. So. Always like, Jeff is heart. Like, I know he's been lobbying for this wonderful moment, not not for the sender stuff. But like the like p pushed for VR to be a thing that he made WTT de auto spell. Welcome to the dawn, you know, ready to go. But things like I appreciate that though. Right. It's like when you see something work. Well, and you and you and you feel like it's something that other folks should see inexperience, and then they get to have the experience that you had it can share in that in that good feeling, and you know, send that energy back to you like that's great that's Super Bowl, and the number of people that are just blown away by astronaut rescue mission in particular is just so gratifying to see. 'cause it feels like that game fell between the cracks for so many people and just wasn't on anybody's radar. It's not an IP that makes anybody take notice. And it, you know, it is really I think masterpiece I really think it is a phenomenally designed game. That, you know, people people are like, oh, you know, VR doesn't have its killer app. Well, it does has several people that bought the PS VR with the move controllers. They've got astronaut rescue mission and beat sabre. I think both of those are like this seller quality games, and there's like six to eight others that I could just list off really quickly. That are all phenomenal experience is very different from anything. You could get out of VR. I I think the the platform is mature a lot of people don't aren't paying attention to it anymore, which is a shame. But it's exciting to see that the price point has gotten down to the point where I think people are giving it a shot, and realizing what is so great about it. I'm with you on that boat. Like, I'm I'm finding more and more. Now that I'm doing things in VR spaces that there are a lot of great games actually out on VR platforms VR and all the other ones out in the world. And it feels like folks are still trying to kind of label that killer app thing as whatever this one game is going to be is going to be the thing that catapults everything forward. And I don't think that that's the case of there's going to be a lot of small games that bring really fun. Interesting kind of group participatory. A events in games in experiences, the people and then you'll see it move forward. But I get again like my idea about where VR is gonna wind up being as more about, you know, size of the devices and sure sizes of the living rooms and sizes of all the other parts before it becomes about the games. But there are some fantastic games out there in the world, and that and that is one of them definitely awful one of my worries about the I mean, I can always find the cloud inside the silver lining. So one of my one of my worries about this is that Sony will come up with some revision to the PlayStation VR platform, some new controller or a new headset together, very soon, and all these people will feel burned that they hopped in. Now. I hope that's not the case. I hope you know, anything will be, you know, backwards compatible or or whatever I'm excited for whatever revision. They can do to the hardware because I think that it's ripe for that. But i'll. Also, I think it is by far the most comfortable headset available in the market. And I think it gives a wonderful image quality. It really is just the tracking and the motion controllers that are substandard. I think and that's unfortunate because they retrofitted everything to tech that was built not for this. And it's unfortunate. But I still think especially with these seated dualshock experiences like Mawson astronaut, it's it's as good as you could ask for it's it's great. 'cause you're not fighting the cord. You're not fighting the tracking you're sitting there. You're having this incredible experience that's all around you and you're immersed in. And and I I've heard so many people that have responded to over this week. So as you guys pick up anything embrace, your inner consumerist. No. A bad American. I didn't buy anything on black Friday. I didn't triple over anyone this this weekend. Really? I am not one of the folks who jumps on black Friday sales in it's weird because I'm I don't wait to get stuff. I mean, that's I mean sounds terrible. It's like with. It's like I don't have the like wait in CNN. I'm gonna wait for a sale. It's weird. It's weird. That now with games dropping so quickly that I'm starting to do that. Now, though what I was waiting for Seoul, Callaway I was looking for a black Friday deal for so caliber and didn't see one. And I was like well games been up for a minute. I'm sure that at some point on PS because I buy most of my digitally at this point that they'll do a dip sale. And it'll it'll go down and I'll cop it then. Yeah. But I'm not getting up for anybody. That's the flip side of this follow seventy six argument Christian. You were saying it's, you know, it's a great time to capitalize on getting people into the game in in people are primed to buy on this day. All those things are true. But also the person that bought it at sixty like three days ago. That's got to sting a little bit. You know, you put in your big preorder for follow seventy six and then a few days later, it's twenty bucks less. That's got a that's me. That's me. But I bought it on date. Preordered? It Nola stuff like an idiot. I don't know why did that. But I was like I'm going to be there. I actually know what? The funny thing was the actual thing that made me by that game. When I did was the fact that they had the beta and said that your your progress would would come with you. If they didn't do that. I would have waited. But I felt like I had done enough stuff. In the beta that I was going to be able to move around and do stuff at a higher level just going in. And I have to deal with a tutorial stuff that I had to do in the beginning of the beta in this kind of jump in and jumped in and it was nothing to do. When we talk about that at length. Yes. My I've really got nothing for story that we I I mean, I guess this week has been you know, it's it's a holiday is not not tons to talk about. I guess I can bring up the fact that smash ultimate Nintendo released a statement saying it is the best pre selling game in the entire smash franchise to date and also the most pre-sales ever on the switch, which is pretty good. I mean, this which has got some highly anticipated me that's more pre-sales than a Mario more pre-sales than Mario Kart. You know, that's more pre-sales than than Pok Mon. Have more pre pre-sale leaks than any of the game. I've seen in a long time. So, you know, smash brothers smash already. It is a huge hit people are amped. It is. I don't know. What else there is to say about that? But any I mean Clifford you feel like you're a guy that's excited for this game. I'm excited for it. Because this will be the first match game that I actually purchase because I haven't played smash before except for like just one off games randomly here. And they're like we have a couple of gaming conventions here in Portland that happened in someone will usually have a smash smash playing somewhere, and I'll usually get on just a mess around with it with this will be the first match team actually gets a play for real in actually go through the whole process of learning. How to be not good? Actually been encouraged seeing all the stuff this week about the single player mode in how robust it is. And there's like, boss, battles and storylines. Stop. I mean this game has everything through the kitchen sink in clearly button. I always appreciate fighting games that have a single player something to do. When know you're not don't wanna get your butt handed te'o by people online or something, you know to so Christian urine. I know that I don't mean to bring up your in again. But you're in this game. Yes. I have peed on it already. That there. All right. We got lots of games to talk about. But I talked to you about our sponsor, you know, we have a resident of Brooklyn ago with us here today. Let me tell you about Brooke linen. See how good a transition that was those those postal Brooklyn. I have Brooklyn and sheets. I am so pleased about that. I literally took a nap in my Brooklyn and cheats today, and that is a rare occasion when I can take a nap. And my goodness that I love just sliding into my Brooklyn and sheets, you spend a third of your life and sheets. 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I'm very curious Khalif where you sit on the red dead redemption to spectrum will let me spin a yarn for you book room about how I feel about this particular game. It's it's been no no keeps accent. And please do the accent for the next twenty minutes. Now two so four the. I would do. The rest of the show. It was I don't know. It's been a really weird kind of experience with this particular game where you have all the hype going into it have it for a couple of years at this point. And you're like red did is going to be fantastic. It's gonna be amazing. Maybe one is super hyped about it. And then you kind of start into the world, and it is d- slow because I haven't heard the conversations you've had already, but it is the slowest start to a major AAA game that I've seen in a very long time. And I don't know why the did that it just hurts me to no end they started off. So slowly that it kind of goes back to the conversation that we just had about the black Friday stuff in the sales. And it was like even read did feels like it's not paying attention to the fact that there are so many good games in the world anymore. Right. And it's like, yeah. We're going to we're going to handcuff you in hog tied to this game for like ten hours ten plus hours. Before you get to stuff that actually feels like it's moving the story along and people got mad at me at sharing thoughts about this another podcast on people like how can you not like it? And I was like he's just too slow in the beginning for rockstar to have all these kind of side characters in your main character. Arthur kind of be thrust upon you in this way. That's like you're going to care about these folks in ways, you didn't expect and you're gonna have this epic tale of you riding around in, you know, in the wilderness, and in the country and doing all these wonderful things it feels like they don't care about your time. Right. And I've just finally gotten to a point in my job of playing on this thing for at least twenty hours. Plus, we're now I'm just finally getting into like chapter three or four and feeling like I'm actually starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel. But it, but but the fact that they've done all this super slow legwork. In the beginning has removed the want to do any of the cool stuff that you would get in a big rock star game. Like this like, I don't wanna do any side tales side quests now like I don't wanna do the fishing and all the other, you know, hunt animals down and stuff. Now, I'm like I want to just finish the. The only people I've seen online with tips on how to get through it. Like, it's like we have to we need a support group. So you can get through the game. Don't worry. You can do it just to ninety percent of the things that the game is telling you to do. And again, I feel like our discussions on the show have been fairly one sided. Although Dave he said he really enjoyed his experience with it. But he had a lot of gripes. I know that a lot of people love it. And I know a lot of people love the the level of air similitude, the the amount of stuff to just live the cowboy life. I get it. There are plenty of people have gotten emails from that dig it. And I don't mean to discount that. But I agree with your assessment leaf. I think it is. It's just watching paint dry, but the paint is so pretty it's so beautiful beautiful paint. I've never seen fog paint. Look as good as it looks in this game. But they were in the weird thing is I want to be invested. That's the part that makes me upset is like I want. To be invested with the folks in this crew in this gang, and again, it's like in the past maybe eight hours of gameplay. I'm now finding people who I feel like I have some attachment to I care about their motivations. I'm starting to see side characters kinda come into the fold in ways that didn't expect and some of the kind of commentary that rockstar does really well about the world and politics about the things that that that they do smartly when they're paying attention to it. Those things are creeping in and I'm like, oh, it's peaking my interest against peaking interest again. But then it sends me on this dumb mission. Where do dumb things for dumb reasons in that part? It's like it's making me mad because I'm just like I just don't have the patience for these folks doing stupid things that they should be doing the opposite of for the sake of making the plot move. And that's. Experience with rockstar games for me. I don't wanna be this person. I don't I don't have any agency over this. And I don't I don't condone the behavior, and I kind of don't enjoy participating in it. And there's so many EMMY five is like that too. What was like that is a lot of a lot of games where that they make where I just find myself going. I'm doing this to see it through. But I don't like the people I'm forced to associate with of forced to you know, to to inhabit, and it just feels Mayfield gross. And and again, I've seen very little of his game. So I'm I'm judging it on a very small fraction of it. And I understand fury. It's a lot of people. But it's just there's so many things that that I enjoy playing that. I'm not gonna spend more time with us. I still really like it just haven't had a lot of time to sit with it. And I wanna get that out there still still enjoy. Wing it. Town for a week. So it made it hard to, you know, far in Christian or you like, no, I'm not. So I can I don't need. We don't need to transition off of it. But I'll let you know why I'm not that that that far into it. I will always want to sit down and play it when I have like an hour or ninety minutes to play and really digest this game really get into something and those times are few and far between and instead I'll end up taking out my switch. I got twenty minutes. I'll play some Pok Mon, I'm twelve hours deep in Polk Amman. So like. That's a lot twenty minutes. Yeah. They build up and also it's like I got twenty minutes. And then before I know it it's been an hour twenty right? 'cause but there's that the allure the illusion of I can put this down whenever I want. I guess it's an illusion. You can like I can literally put it down and finished making dinner then play for other five and then put it down and play for another ten in red dead. The way I'd like to experience that game. In those types of games is I am seated and ready to play red dead. You know, not even with sleep mode in the console's being pretty great now. I don't want to experience that type of game that way. So I don't make the time. My wife is similar with movies and TV shows too. I don't wanna watch a movie I don't have that much time. Then she'll sit down and watch five episodes of the Americans. And I'm like, you just watched two movie. Commitment. I totally feel that. And I I have that as well. When it's like, okay while I'm gonna dive into this experience. I really want to spend time in all I just have a half an hour. I'm gonna play a game of here's the storm. And then I play three games of your storm half. You know, it's like. So I totally feel that the thing. I don't on the thing. I don't know about red dead. And I think the debate on both sides is compelling is is it a laudable next step into art fullness in video games is many years ago and somebody whose name is should have noted, and I apologize. If you're listening for not remembering your name, but somebody on Twitter. Presented me with my own quote for many years ago. The totally RAD show where I said I wanted the diving bell and the butterfly video games. Right that I'm Bill the butterflies this incredibly evocative movie. It's a it's an art film. But it is it moved me in very powerful ways. And it made me feel like a purple Egypt. It is an incredible experience. At the time. There was nothing like that in video games. And I was like a win win. Will this medium have that kind of artful nece? Right. Well, will they be even attempting to convey stories like that? And somebody on Twitter said is this that right is is this the thing you're bouncing off of the forced Sloan as the the commitment to verse to to creating a very authentic experience, the the long drawn out story is that art cinema. Basically is it the equivalent of that in the video game space and? The not caring about whether you're having fun or not is that. The equivalent experience in a movie of of having this kind of unpleasant, but rich media experience, it wouldn't be if it didn't take that long, right? Right. That's exactly what I said. So weeded me, and he said this is the diving bell and butterfly game. I said a diving bell and the butterfly wasn't fifty hours. You know? You know, I think that's a fair point to make. But I think what it could the alternative is that it is reaching for something that it is failing to achieve because the systems themselves are fighting against the storytelling that. The process of playing it. If these for me and sounds like for you to cliff is to fight to fight through the playing to get to that richness instead of enjoying the playing and also getting something out of the richness. And I don't think the fighting through is the intended experience, I think they really want you to be enjoying skinning a animal, and you know, petting your horse in all those things that you're supposed to do. I think they want you to like y'all that just for me, I find it extremely tedious and uninteresting. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I was just in. We'll circle back at the end of the show because there is a thing that is in that same kind of world that I really enjoyed and wished was was was what red dead could have been. We'll talk about that later in the in the show begun. Christians are Jose, maybe moving to your fallout seventy six experience. I like the stuff that red dead has me do, and I like the fact that while it is helpful it is it necessary often. Sometimes it is often it isn't necessary again having completed the game. But I know I have not paid my camp for very long time and a game dinner. Then I didn't die people gave me the stink. I, you know, and they helpful as otherwise would have been. But so I gotta mation on the stink IDO. It's not. That's think I was. It. It is something that I enjoy that richness. But there is a step too far. And for me that step too far, and maybe something even closer but follow seventy six certainly is at step too far where I feel like, you know, I I used to run a lot and I'd never got his parched as. Big bear that my character and fault seventy six I've never been. I never ran into radioactive wasteland or walked two steps holding two things. But big bear was so parched. All the GD time man like that is to and then I die, and then I got a drink. But then I'm drinking radioactive water. So I know it's not good water. And then I got eat, but there's just like radioactive. It's just like stop it. I'm trying to listen to this audio now now another character kills me fun. I'm having fun. That's a step too far from me. Why are you are you on the fall at seventy six, and this is another one that's very polar? I fell off that train and at seventy six over me does that make sense. Him. I I know it's very polarizing because there are a lot of people that that love this game for its quirkiness, and are really finding some some cool moments in it. What is your take on phone? Seventy six cliff waiting for the fallout. Seventy six Bethesda do. Better addition waiting for seventy seven. Any seventy seven and a little bit better than seventy six. Yeah. It's like I still bad being such a Downer on the show. But it's like I wanted that game to be really good. A really wanted that game to be different interesting in a way that you felt but says the was wrapping all the fun stuff that you love about us about a fog game into this kind of online space in it. And it's weird because in their in their development dock. They talked a lot about what they see in forecast their plans being and I'm like, this is going to be cool, but you're going to have no one to see any of this stuff because we're all gonna moved on. But the time you get there. And it's unfortunate because you know, Bethesda games are Jenky. We all know that they're Janke. You kind of when you buy with a game at this point. You're looking past that because you know, the all the fun things you had in skyro- or oblivion and you're like, I want some more of that. And then you get into. About seventy six and the interesting parts about that game. Is that there's some really fun cool lower stuff happening in that game. The problem is everything else. That's arounds it and it's rough because it's like vats is just some weird broken unreasonable version of what you're what you think it should be. Well, it makes sense because it's like you're walking you're working in in a call that. Call that. It's unreasonable. It's like you want to be really dope and play like I did in the other. But you can't because it's online move. Yeah. And it's like then you purchase of the systems. You're like all right, cool. So now does purchase supposed to help me with that. It's going to give me one or two more percentages of probability, my hit this thing. I'm just moved closer. Closer. My probability will go up and shoot a thing. And it might not even work and just like come on y'all like this is the thing that bugs me about. This is if you'd make a game like this in the bad, you know, bad press, besides the press, the bad word of mouth that you're gonna get an have been getting across multiple multiple layers of people who were like first timers in this world and people who are vets in this world. They're like yo all the stuff that we talked about in star field being a game. This was becoming out whenever that drops. Like, I don't know if I want to spend money on another as the game. If you give me this what you have to do a lot of work at this point to pull people back from whether at now to make them feel like they're gonna plunk down full price money for your game. Do you? I don't know. How does the does that? Or do you think I don't know because this isn't fall out five, and it's not like a numbered letter thing. And it's a new franchise. Is I do wonder Jeff you or the one that pointed this out to me? So I think you can speak to this better than I can. But I feel that people have departmental is out of schools online from elder scrolls in apparently better now. But like when the next elder scrolls comes out people going to be like a ESO launched broken like that hold you back Jefferson. You love those games that something that you're concerned about. No, no, I think people I think right or wrong. People are looking at faults. Six experiment that they did that may be as depending on your point of view failing or not. But yeah, I I don't think it's going to hold me about I have very little desire to jump into followed seventy six, but I will be the first in line to play their next single player role playing in because that's what I love. And that's what they make. And yeah, they're those games can be problematic in their own ways to. But they deliver these experiences that are exactly what I love. So I have no doubt that they will also make. That. And I'm going to be playing those games when I hit for sure I mean, I just hope and maybe they'll be, you know, duly chastened by by this experience. Who knows if this will be a learning experience? I want to read an Email that we got that kind of presents a different perspective, which I think is interesting. This comes from John from Colorado Springs. He sent this to DLC feedback at L dot com. He says. I'm loving my experience with fall at seventy six. This can be seen by the fact that my friend and I set out hours ago to complete a quest and have yet to do. So on our way there we stumbled upon a campground in the woods that turned out to be a little more than we had expected cough, haunted cough after supposed to read the conference, you the cough. After that abridge that led us to a room with a map on the wall in which closer expect inspection would reveal push pins with new locations to explore each new location brings with it its own miniature story, adding to the lore as a whole. So they're finding fun in this thing. And they're finding this. It is not it's kind of the inverse of what? The games often are which is this really a story that's presented through NPC's and vibrant world. And all these things that are happening. And this is more like what also exists in the fall games to be quite honest, and that is environmental storytelling. But I think that is really the only kind of storytelling at play here. But I guess if you get clicked into that there's really a lot to like. But again, I think the systems are working against you in this game. To a certain extent. I just don't think they're combat is strong enough to carry the game. Unfortunately, I think that went along way and the different approach to it not being shooter per se and elder scrolls helps that game but this game being a shooter or hack and slash thing. Yeah. I don't think the engines there are the mechanics there. Unfortunately to carry it. I do agree with that Email that there's a lot of written it richness in the world and fun to be had with friends. But I just think that are like, I would guess there are better games. There are games that do it better that you can also have fun playing with Fred's. Yeah. Well, that's a question. If you since you've played some of it, are you are you playing it with other people are just solo. Well, you're always playing it with other people. I haven't played it with a buddy that I'm like, hey, we're jumping together. Yeah. No. I haven't done that yet. Maybe that is really the secret sauce. It seems everything's better with buddy. Really? But you know, you're I think the idea is that you have buddies no matter what or at least people that are in the same shared world with you. But the world is enormous and there's only twenty four people per server, right? Only. I've been hearing lots of stories of people being super lonely in that world because people are so because people are really just like it's like the hoarders episode, whatever teals you channels. Yeah. And it's like what the mind mind get away for my stuff where I'm building. My basically, you can't come onto my base and get my stuff. And I just I just wonder how that experience has been for folks who have been teaming up with friends, and and kind of exploring the world that way as opposed to just doing like, I have just kind of running around solo in trying to find trying to find funding in the and I'm going through. So that'd be good want to hear that from somebody. Well, Christian one other stuff has been on your playlist. Time finding the fun quicken early. I know we've both played war frame on now that it's on switch and. I'm super impressed. I know this is a six year old or whatever it is year old game. That's had tons of content added to it. But my golly playing hand-held mode. It looks great. It ran really. Well, it drops you in you're playing you're you're blasting away. You're in the thick of it. And I think it does a really good job talking about red dead. Slow intro fought seventy six kind of on boarding and probably preaching to the choir. It's like, yes, we've known this forever every year but this game similar to for to horizon. Four I feel like really really on boards the player in a really cool and fun in effective way that for a game that does have as much content as war frame does. Now, I never felt overwhelmed in the way that Diablo on switches kind of like, hey, you're getting the everything version you can do this or this is that seem boring. What about this don't like this try this, by the way, here's this? And I was just like too much. Information Rame, really set the tone early it walked you through not walked you through. But it presents you things at a nice rate or felt having fun. But I wasn't overwhelmed with all the Mods, and I'm going to be making the character class and picking this with this means and now I'm locked out of that. Just kind of hey, here's some three things you can choose from your some basics about each one. Then you don't find your automatic gun until later like it really paces those things out well through the first hour and it's a game. I'm not sure if I'll become a die hard war frame player. But it is definitely a game that when I have reliable internet. It's going to be a, you know, pick up and play for twenty minutes, thirty minutes or so like get into that world and have fun on my switch. I'm curious. What your experience has been with Jeff. Well, I will agree that it is pretty cool that the game plays as well as it does on a handheld system and looks as good as it does. But I'll be completely honest with you Mike spurious with. Were frame on switch resulted in one thing. And that is me reinstalling War-fame on my PC. I really did. I reinstalled it on my PC because I was like this isn't how I wanna play this game. I thought the pick up and play and play on the go -ness of it would. Really help for a game that has so much to do. But it's just not a game on a plan. How I mean, the the screen size makes for example, the mini map completely useless. You can't even see it in hand held mode on the switch. It is so tiny little top left of your screen that it becomes useless. And it just the controls on on the switch aren't as nice as on my PC. And I found out that it does support all tra- wide. And you know, I just like this game is big and gorgeous and vibrant. And I kinda don't wanna play it on the little switch screen. I want. I I think the game is fantastic. And it's awesome. That they did that and kudos to them for giving the reason to reinstall it, you know, I know there's tons of new content that I wanna check out. But I I was delighted to like put it back on my PC and go like this game games. Really fun. If you dominantly play your switch at home, no reason to play war frame on your switch over any other console or PC that's available on. I also also, you know, it does require always online connection. So it's not like you can be on in the subway or something plan war frame. And the loading times are really extreme. I think it's not like it'll extreme. I did they you know, it's not like you can power off power back on quickly. Like you can with a lot of switch games. It hasn't you know needs to log back on and it needs to reload. A lot of it is it doesn't have that. Switch pick up and play nece inherent in its design. And. All those things make make me feel like why am I wasting my time on the switch when I can be playing this the way it's meant to be played which is big and beautiful invite Brennan, also I think I've been trained on my switch to tolerate that. Maybe better than you have with fortnight if you're not playing every day, you know, heaven forbid, you wait between seasons and you're like I'll play switch and your switches like now dog we're going to download twenty gigs. Exaggerate it a big amount and even split tune. You know, loading in hearing the here the new maps about about about about this. What we're doing about a games kind of loading in the background and logging land rocket league played a decent amount of these always need to be online games on switch on kind of used to that war frames. Log low does seem a little longer than those. But it's something that isn't a deal breaker for me words for that type of game. I want to play my switch in two minutes fired up set aside finish what I'm doing. And I'm ready to go. I would also be very curious. I haven't played it enough to really have done any kind of testing get results. But I would love to know what it does to your battery. Imagine that game. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I played a little of that. What else you got on your more stuff on your playlist cushion, why bunch of poke him on? Let's go I still love it. My only update on that will be that. I've apparently put in almost twelve hours or whatever it is. People tweeted at me and told me this after last week show. So thank you with the pokey ball. Plus, you can shake it to get the wife analogy. So you don't need. I was keeping my joy con next to me to push why. So you don't need to do that. And then I've also been playing dark siders three. Oh, I should say I got a code for this game. And I have not completed yet though. I was giving it time in advance before this embargo went up. I was not able to complete the game. So consider these well informed thoughts versus the end of the game. Just kidding. All dream. This is still red dead. Something along those lines it takes place concurrently with God of war got four jeeze the we's. I'll get to that have notes up dark siders one. It's kind of the same time line in you are. Not overlapping in that world. But it's they set this up right in your doctors fan, Jeff as the four horsemen gonna tell all of these stories and now you're playing as fury in your wrecking havoc in the world. And I think distilling down its game. Play the best way. I can it is dark souls light meets God of war one through three. Like, it's not got twenty eighteen and it's that kind of old blades of chaos chains out whipping around running around through an environment on a somewhat narrow pathway as you're battling people. And I think part of the reason that elicits these OG God of war images in my head. Is the fury's whip chain when it comes out at CYP look similar to the blades of chaos kind of swinging from cradles wrist in the dark souls aspect of the game comes from. One when you die. You lose your souls, and you can go back and collect them where they are it also and how the enemy battles happen. It is not dark siders one or two in terms of its combat. It is again, dark souls light. It's not quite as timing based as dark souls where your weapon is slower this out of the other you can't change weapons or hollows. They are called as you unlock them throughout the game. And again, I think picture God of war as you get what is it Zeus gauntlets or those other weapons that you can kind of deep had changed through in God of war, and it changes criticism tack the same in here where you will unlock new hollows, and you get fire and different powers, and it will help you progress through puzzles in the world and backtrack, but the combat itself it's not as if I'm playing it with this heavy sword. So I need to turtle or do this out of the other. It is not that level of dark souls. But your timing is important you need to learn to characters a mation. To Perry at the right time that you can come back with the strong counter, you can't button mash your way through it. The way you can some of those older God of war games, especially on normal difficulty and get your way through. So if that sounds appealing to you, and then I would add the caveat of if you are also in OG dark siders fan. I think this game is going to be right up. Your alley. I think you're going to have a lot of fun with it. If those two combinations. Don't sound that fun. And you think maybe gaming has moved past some of that even the dark souls franchise what you like about it is staff in its richness and how you can tweak the combat as you go with different weapons different load outs. And you think God of twenty eighteen to God of war? And a bold new way that improved on that style of gameplay that third person action game. I would agree with you dark siders three feels like it could have come out. I mean you played a little bit of Jeff what like mid to late XBox three sixty era. Like, it feels like it looks better than that. But it looks like it's still could've been that. If that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the the tone the writing feels a little anachronistic doesn't feel like it's it is a modern game. It feels like it's these older games. I've played very very little of this game. I got a code for it as well PC code which was very excited about wide-screen support. Yes, alt-right. Yes. But it has been crashing on my system. I don't know. If that's a me problem or it's a game problem, but I have not been able to play more than five minutes without crashing. So crushing hard like it took my whole system down and made me scared to play it again. I'm also and I've not encountered that at all. And I'm, you know, hours deep, so I don't make garbage can GP only not not something at the foot of the game at this point. Because I just don't know enough yet. But this was made by gunfire games, which is one of my favorite studios. I mean, they have made some of the coolest VR games Cronos dead and buried hero bound spirit champion and from other sons, these are incredible VR games. I was so excited that they were going to get their hands on the dark siders universe. I haven't played enough game to know the answer to this. But what I loved about the previous dark siders games was that they were legend of Zelda. But right this like, you know, heavy metal kind of aesthetic and crazy cool graphics it. That's why I loved about the the second arc siders was Zelda with loot. And I was like, right. Yes. So is that a kind of abandoned that and in favor of dark souls take yet? It's really interesting we'll one so I don't want to belabor the point of it not looking as beautiful as Spiderman or got a war for to rise in four. But it. Looked sharp. It looks Chris. But the environment the it evokes. An older style of game. I think graphically so I only bring that up to say because when doctors one in two came out it was HD Zelda. We now have HD Zelda. So it doesn't quite have that same like. Oh, cool. This is this is that I'm getting that take on this this type of gameplay. And then the other thing is this is not that they're it's not loot based of things unlock as you progress through the game. In terms of story beats when you unlock the hollows you get new weapons new abilities. And then when you go to the vulgar stations, which are your both your check points, and your will Jubair N what you're selling kind of resident evil four type merchant where you can deposit your souls to level up strength stuff like that by health potions and things along those lines. But you are not finding loot in the world. You're not changing your character as you. Progress in it is not Zelda based where there is an over world, and discreet dungeons that you go into this game is is more kind of one long dungeon. They've described it more along the lines of an icy this. It's it's more metro-dade in Howitt's world is laid out in terms of instead of there being overruled indiscreet done that you go into everything kind of interconnects and folds back on it self, and you get to those new areas as you unlock the different hollow. So they'll be, you know, spider webs blocking your path, and clearly you can see through it, you know, and you can see an enemy on the other side. So, you know, it's not just texture mapping of ood. Spiderweb creepy dungeon. It's like I'm going to be able to get here at some point. I grant right now or I can't jump up. I love that. I I've always been a fan of that. You know, it's kinda fallen out of vogue obit, even with Nintendo themselves. But I always liked that the smaller. Indie games have been carrying that torch, right? With. Up on blinking the pinball metro Vania that I love so much Thailand express. Right. And you've seen a bunch of. And it is that a little bit right? Yeah. And I like that approach I find that the way it Dole's things out throughout the course of the game doesn't quite happen as quickly as I'd want it to where with your main your default. And then four hollows as you progress through the game. I wish there were more. Again, haven't finished it yet so caveat, caveat. But I I wish there were more of those came faster in the world kind of built quicker, and then my other frustration with the game is because it's combat is kind of this marrying of God of Oji God of war and dark souls. It is fast and furious with this whip chain thing and all the weapons you get, you know, your you're your lethal, right and moving through the space, but the camera is closer on you than. God of war is it's closer to you at like, a dark souls would be and so I find that and you could lock onto people, and you can kind of talk between who you're locked on it too, but I'll get into a large combat encounter with a bunch of. I wanna call him trash level enemies. But, you know, a step up a grunt that I'm battling to to get to a mid boss or harder harder bosses near something. Interesting, right and enemies will come up from behind and I don't see them coming because my the camera is close behind my back. So it's not as if I'm ready for them. There's a little indicator it's kind of like, a white triangle kind of thing that shows up behind you that enemies approaching, but I found that was on a lot when I was surrounded by enemies and not necessarily like, oh, I need to deal with these now because I turn around and still be behind me on the other side in with that little bit of a soul's approach to it even trash level enemies can really wreck you, especially if you're not careful. So you'll be going through an encounter to work toward a mid boss or a harder harder enemy that you've been trying to take down. And you get stuck in these areas where these little enemies will surround you kill you in you'll die in you'll respond back at vogue REM station, like not right where you left off which again is dark souls esque, but I found the way this game approached its combat and the way I wanted to fly around the world more unless I was on a challenging enemy would lock on. And really get into that rhythm of the combat of Perry. Ink coming back, stronger, unleashing my wrath mode in like using all special abilities, those encounters were great, but I get into these rooms it would have a couple of slightly harder enemies, and a lot of these lower level enemies, and they would do a lot of damage and then to have to respond ten minutes back to than get through those guys again to get back to the boss that I was at or not not a boss whether one of the seven deadly sins, but one of the harder enemies in. It was frustrating. And I kept wishing the camera's further outside could see more around me or it handled its combat a little slower the way a bloodborne is the faster of the souls games. Right. But even that game is slow enough. That went something's behind you, you Parry and role in it gives you space to then take on one enemy at a time. And in my experience in the soles games. That's what you're doing. Right. Is you're balancing space in which combat encounter. You're going to take on. And and my playthrough dark cider street. Didn't give me that freedom to do that the way I wanted to. So it's kind of marrying these two John razz that on paper, I love, and I think a lot of people will find a lot of fun in it. But they kept conflicting to me more than they kept gelling together. Lomb certainly hoping that I find it what play this because I I love the series. I was very excited that this game was being made very excited that gunfire was doing it. 'cause I'm such fans of those guys and gals. But in a lot of the OG team is is back working on gunfire working on this game. I think there's a lot to like I think, unfortunately, there's. A lot. That's better. I wanna talk a little bit more about assassin creed odyssey. I know I've talked about it many weeks in a row. I just I'm in love with this game in a way. I haven't been in love with things for awhile. I mean, maybe that's not true. I I loved horizons. Euro Don is a big open world game, this one feels more massive than that and more massive than almost anything else. I've I've played that. I haven't gotten to a point where I'm just like I got a power through and just finish this. I I'm still at like forty hours in I'm still just following my curiosity and doing cool stuff. And I want to do it all and I I'm loving the experience. I love all the systems the powering up is so much fun leveling up getting new abilities. Do you feel like, you know, getting cool new abilities that like is doling them out at a good pace? Are you a God? And it's like there's nothing fun to play for the game the game scales with you. So even if you. Level up past an area. It'll scale up the enemies like pathetic into often. So yes, I have more at my disposal, and I'm liquid death for a lot of the time. But the game still a challenge I've I'm doing the arena challenges, which really really cool in fun. And there's always these awesome mercenaries that come after you if you do too much stuff that are a challenge in cool to take down the fights are really thrilling there these legendary animal fights that I've been having a great time with their like these protracted dark souls esque like marathon, boss fights. I will say you bring up something about leveling playing this game made me think of something that applies here. But also, I think applies for a lot of games in a more general sense the whole video game industry in something. I wish more games with think about because assessing agreed odyssey. Does loot. Really, really? Well, it is very satisfying to get new loot. Each of the many different weapon types plays very differently from one another if you have a big acts plays very differently from a dagger or sword if different move sets, and you you getting a new weapon that does cool stuff is thrilling the Olympic really cool. I just got Jason of the Argonauts armor, which has this like golden ram's horn on the shoulder, and it's just like the game. Look, so great and all of the armor. I haven't really found that I would loot multiple arms that look the same which is unheard of in a game with this much loot. It's incredible and very satisfying. But. They basically just up your stats, right? You get a new thing. Like this one does six percent more warrior damage, but this one does eight percent more warrior, damaged suite on a do the eight percent word word, and that's the template for a lot of role playing games. Plus, one two awesome. Right. You get plus one two awesome. You're gonna take that if you plus two awesome while I'm gonna take that. And even with the legendary items the legendary items in this game, and there are many of them and also side note, one of the very cool things game. Let you do is you can pay a blacksmith to upgrade an older item to your current level. So if you have the materials, you can keep something that you think is awesome. But you out leveled you can make it your level. So that I love it. How does that as well? Right. Where you want to keep your could you like the way the gear looks. But you want the new stats? Yeah. Yeah. So. Even the legendary items the it'll be like a really huge stat increase. It'd be like twenty percent more damage on you know, a particular skill or something. And yes, there are legendary armor sets that have a, but if you get the entire set, it does something dramatic, but I find that the sort of Diablo three model, which they came too late in that games life cycle. But I think smartly is a legendary item will actually change the way you play. It's not just this one is plus two awesome. It's not just it. The thing you already do this one does better. It's not just your stats go up, and you do more damage. It literally is this particular item will let you break the rules of the game in a very specific way. And because you can break the rules of the game when you wear this the way you play will be different. And I wish more game. Games took that to heart. And did that because it is so much more exciting and makes the loop grind in getting loot? Actually impact the way you're approaching the world and do cool stuff. For example. I think I mentioned last week or the week before that I think level thirty in assesses creed you just get the ability to. Fall from any height and not die. And it's awesome. You totally changed the way I play the game. You just automatically get that. When you get to a certain level. And I wish that was tied to a piece of armor or a piece of a weapon or something. Like that is such an awesome thing that it would be cool. If that was something I loot it, and it was like, oh my God. I can I can now fall from any heightened not dimes gonna leap off of everything. And that's all I'm playing the game. I'm playing Spiderman, you know, it's like just leave off of things so fun but things like that. And again, those are very difficult to come up with a number of them that worked like that. But adding a new ability instead of laying out all the abilities in your talent system, and sesame odyssey has great talent system. And I love the upgrading of the talents. But I would love for. They're not all of the abilities to be in the talent system like flippy, find an item that gives me a towel. Talent that I couldn't get any other way. But I think at a richness a layer of richness to the loot to Luke games that. I think make playing the game way more thrilling way, more interesting. Instead of just hate your stats are a little bit better than you. Keep upping the stats over and over again, it dynamically influences your play style. I want something that I have to not necessarily grind four. But I need to do certain experiences to be able to get to that thing that makes those kinds of abilities kind of pop to throughout the game. I'm totally with you on that. I would love to see more than in the bunch of different games. I wonder if part of it, and I know the internet now, it'd be different and people talk about go get the, you know, echoes boots to be able to withstand fall damage or whatever it is. And here's where they're located people talk about it and words that way. But with the skill tree, you can kind of map what you want to do. And you see what's available to you. And it's kind of the carrot on the end of the stick. And I wonder if things were hidden in gear in that way, if that encourages players to play as much or the same way or to keep doing things to grind for the XYZ talent or skill to get it. If it's just, hey, go get this piece of loot in changes the way you play the game. I wonder if there's data a research on. Like, what motivates people more disting- in the world for them to find? Or this thing for them to whittle away at to then get this dopamine hit or whatever it is. I'm sure there are a lot of people listening. They're screaming at the top of the lungs guild wars. I mean, that's how the the system is in guild wars is like everything is and actually. Path of exile has a lot of that too. Where like the item determines the the things you can do your bills determined by the items, you have a quipped. So there are games that do that. I just wish you know. Like another thing that I did this week for the first time I've been putting lots of points into all kinds of cool abilities, you know, doing ghost EROs through buildings in the shooting, multiple EROs. Stealth kills all kinds of fun stuff. This game has but had been ignoring something that I tend not to do in video games. And that is there's a there's a skill where you can tame animals ignoring it. Well, see what this is like, oh, man. It is. So I was rolling with a lion. A full on majestic main like a white mainland because you know, there's all these these awesome animal caves that you can find where it has like kill the kill the epic animal in the cave. And if you level up that skill enough, you can tame them by subduing, this you have to like fight them first. But then not kill them. If the knock them out, and there's different ways you could not come out on the spot kick. And if you knock them out, then you can run up in tain them. If you have the skill again way, cooler if you like had it on an item, and and it's like this item. Let you tame like a whip or something that lets you tame analytic, Brad. Anyway, either way like this chicken bone or something like that. Ruin with this lion. And it's like complete change because I was like Mr. stealth and just roll in the twin ac- of dudes, and my lion is like zip zip ripped to shreds. And everybody knows running at me. And I'm like dancing around slice dues. Will my lion is tanking for me. It is hot so RAD gays need to do that man need to use that it's so cool. Another thing. I want to mention about assessing honesty is we had a guest on a awhile back. I think it was Heather Alexandria. I might be wrong. Maybe attributing it to the wrong person. But. Who was reviewing the game and powered through at a certain point because they is so big so sprawling was just like main lining the quest to finish it. And it occurred to me like there was a moment that I had because I'm not doing that. I'm taking my time. I'm doing everything I'm just following my curiosity if like there's a cool island. I'm gonna go over to just see what it is. And I'm almost always rewarded by this game for doing that. And also doing a lot of the side quests probably more of the side quest in this game than I have for most open world games. Just because they're so interesting in result in moments like this, which is so when you leave your first starter in this game very very early on. You get paired up with the dude who gives you a ship in his name is Barnabas, and it's his ship, and he's like your first mate on the ship. And he gives you all your ship stuff. And you kind of talked to him a lot. And there's a relationship that develops there. But you don't you know, he doesn't join you on missions or anything on the ship. And there is the the island of Mykonos, which is I don't know midway through the game. Really fun. Self contained storyline where you're like liberating this island from bad people and. One point there is like a side mission that I went, and I found this woman who had an I patch and she's like just chilling. And she's like, oh, there's a a terrible creature Abair that killed my entire crew. And I want you to go kill that bear totally you know, banal wrote role playing game side mission. Go kill the bay big bad bear, right? It's a fetch fetch go kill the bear bringing back its pelt, whatever. So because I'm not rushing through. I'm like do that. I'll get some sweet X P. I love leveling up in this game doing everything be fun. So I go I kill the bear bring it back and. You there's more to this mission. You find out that she was kinda lying about that. That the reason the bear killed her entire crew is because they were smuggling this bear on the ship. And again, these are spoilers, right? But this is a side mission that you could very easily miss very easily miss so anyways. So she's kind of this morally grey character who like let her entire crew get killed because they were smuggling this bear illegally on the ship. And it broke out slaughtered everybody. And you discover that fact, and you have the option of like dealing with her and killing her or keeping her secret and not, you know, letting her live and all that stuff. So you have all these cool choices to make. And I ended up because I tend to play as a nice person. I ended up letting her live go on your way. Right there live, Jeff. I didn't. I didn't. I slaughtered. The bear. But it was fun. Because my my lion helped. Lying on bare crime, man. It's it's. So I I I let her go. So then you do all Mykonos you whole thing. This doing other side quest I'm doing main mission everything, and you you finally liberate the island of meekness, and there's a party like they throw a party not for you. But just because they're liberated, and you get to go to the party in and you can wander around and talk to people and lo and behold, this chick the I patch is at the party, and she's talking to knob us your any like fall in love. And I met this girl at the bar, and she's like, hey, I know that girl. She's like, hey, yeah. Yeah. What do you know what he's like? Oh, no, no reason because you're keeping her secret. Right. And they fall in love. And then she's like, well, I'd love to we're setting sail for the next island in the morning. She's like can I come and she joins your crew and his legendary crew member that adds these cool stats to your ship. But the game completely doesn't telegraph that at all it doesn't tell you like, hey do the side mission because you can get a cool. Legendary person it doesn't there's no link to her and Barnabas like it just is this this rich tapestry of story that happened because I made all these particular decisions as like this game's awesome. I just I was so blown away by that. Yes. Should kill. Will. Loves though, is like when those things come back or they or they connection away. You didn't see coming or you see some random thing that happens way down in the line of the story that you just like, oh, my actual actions did something that actually change the way that this game is working the way these stories are going to be told that's that I want. I don't wanna feel like doing fetch quests for the sake of you needing to do a stat boost. So that can get something new. I want those things to be interconnected like they're supposed to be. I agree and against the kind of thing that could be easily missed and the game doesn't sign posted at all which I think it makes even more special. It's no so many games. I think feel the need to tell you, you know. Hey, if you do this thing, then you'll get something cooler in it, just I wonder how many of the things I missed or that could have played out differently or the size and scale this game is incredible. And I just love all the systems. I've never had more fun. Like losing my stealth in a game in having the at the F. You know, unlike all the people I just today was like I was taking down a a cool castle and usually stealth in like liquid death everybody without them ever knowing. But I did something they all noticed me. And then I was like I just had fun dealing with that and running around and having this t- this band of people. It's great. It's a good game. Love having everyone. Get mad at me in running to the top of a ladder in waiting for them all to come with the lettuce. I can stop. They're just like one of the time always one of the time when Germany. I got it. This time. Die. Anyway. So again, I'm not I have I'm not approaching this game the web approach most others that probably means you can hear me talk about it. Lots more because I just wanna play I wanna play it in. So I am and they may not be the best thing for the show. My psyche right now, I'm like, I'm following the fun everybody. And you're just gonna have to listen to me talk about the Seth odyssey for a few more times till I find like just house four comes out. Indeed. It does the summer fourth does Cimber the four. Yeah. All right. Well, let's the let's move on. I want to talk about our second sponsor third. Love third. 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Listening like Khalif likes it. I news bad. I'm glad I wait. The win on a Russian judge to give the good score it so good. It's like one of those things that when I first sat down with it. I didn't play VR at first because I was like wanna see what kind of kind of feel like without all the bells and whistles with a and then you put the put your home at on your VR on and it such a different experience. It is. So very dislike. Such as Zende out chill experience that you see all these small little things. It's like pop up around you. And it feels like it's surrounding union -veloping you in feels really nice. And then I just love the way that they've just like attached and figured out ways to sink, the music with everything with all the visuals and all that stuff. And it felt like I'm trying to think what it felt like if the first time I sat in New York in watched like, the big Macy's fireworks. It was like that feeling. We're wow. Like, ooh, you can feel all the small little lake intricacies of of all the graphics. They have. And then it's weird because you're trying to play tetris while all this fun stuff is happening around you, and I've been messing up because I'm working at so so much of the cool stuff. That's happening around me that I'm totally botching the actual game playing. So just like, oh, I totally miss that line. Oh, Toby miss that whole thing could have gotten to points of that. But like. Look at that. Really? Don't try and go there just like flew through the like flew through to get to the next part of the layer for the level. It's I I love a love games. Like this. Like these the games that I kind of really appreciate now. My my older wanting something to like go to bed kinda stuff in league going to bed games are things. Like this. Like, I don't know VR is necessarily the best thing for pre bed gaming but this game itself. Even if you're not playing in VR definitely feels like it is like a big Cup of tea before going to bed, which is great is fantastic. It really is. I mean, sublime is I think is the perfect word for it. Is it took a game that is super stressful and made it zen. We actually got a listener who wanted to send in a review of this. What you can. You're welcome to do at DLC feedback at Djamil dot com. This comes from Simon he's from Florence Italy. And he says I love DLC. Never miss an episode. I want to write down a small review and explain why tetris effect is so special end. Well, my game of the year. Please excuse me, a find English as a little bit weird since it's not my mother tongue. He says the pinnacle of Michigan cheese research for sinister. Asia tetris affect is. In fact, the synthesis between luminous and res-. It's the perfect balance of game play music and images. Everything is crafted with care. Nothing left to chance every color every note, every vibration on the controller extremely refined clean its gameplay sharp as a blade, however, stating that it's the best and most important tetris ever made or the best version of the best game ever, right, right? Since the GameBoy version is not enough because there's more the journey mode, especially if played in VR is an introspective journey through the elements nature, science, religion and human tradition from the cell to space tetris effect brings an immensely powerful. Message of hope and. Rarely since the video game exists has there ever been so much need for hope in our history as human beings like right now, everyone should play it. So he said, those are my thoughts in a sense tetris affect conveys deal. Sees message of hoping positively which is pretty awesome to say. Thank you Simon for that review. I wanna know what I wish I could read Italian because that's very eloquent. So like what his his native tongue you? Have been an Italian. I specifically read his his like, you know, pre apology because his light. It's so inappropriate. It rate with English. But I didn't hear Cleveland are like it's so good if yes really really really really good though. Yeah. I was like was he not writing for someone with that was a beautiful beautiful. What I've you have another chance to play to talk about it since you've been playing it either. Right. Yes. What I'd add to this. And I think this was a great Email to kind of jump to this part of the conversation as I feel like this is the most accessible MS Gucci game. Made in the sense that tetris is something that everyone knows and res- is funky weird. And I love it and I own the soundtrack on cassette tape because I'm that type of person. But it's like what you're a, Sal, then your thing. And then there's your pulsing. And you know, you gotta get into the zen moment and luminous is. Tetris? No, no, no. It's not. You're not playing it. Right. Like that little you think you know, what you're doing. But you don't really know what you're doing. So people aren't great at at least in my experience. People aren't great at it and the kind of bounce off at faster than they should have feels like he made luminous because he wasn't able to make tetris game. Maybe contentious good make this. You know what I mean? Yeah. And this is a game where it's like, what am I doing? You're playing tetris just just just play tetris. And then you let the game wash over you. And you know, the people that I've seen play this game. We have a co worker who loves tetris and the first time he played it in VR like the rest of his day. He was he was in bliss mode. Right. And like even getting my wife to sit down and play. It's a very accessible VR game. And then having that. Feeling of music and game play and rhythm and everything go together. It it's easy to convey in feel and get into. I think that's what makes it such a masterpiece and something that literally anyone can play in experience and not feel like they're missing something about it think it's great that it's on PlayStation VR as well. Because. That is such a comfortable headset that yeah, you are never uncomfortable. It is a very comfortable experience all around tetris effect. Is it just it feels good to play? It relaxes me. It. It brings me into a state of of joy. It's it's it's blissful. Indeed. But Cleveland you've been playing some other VR stuff including beat saber on the PlayStation four, which is kind of the opposite. It puts me in a state of sweats is what inputting data. It's funny because I remember early on right win Oculus was starting to drop and beat say was one of those games that people not not right when it dropped. But when beat saver came out, I should say was when again you talked about really early on as as being like this good exercise game. And I remember waiting for it to get to PS VR knew that they were going to be dropping it on on PS end. And I was like I'm just going to wait for that. Because the setup my backroom isn't really great in. It's not big enough for me to have space. Do all the stuff I want and I played it lasts. No two nights ago. And my wife usually doesn't watch me sit in like play VR games, especially because it's not a fun experience, which you're not in the headset. It's kind just like you watching other people do stuff as she sees. Me in the living room flailing around like a mad person. And she's like Djeddai, you mean, really clumsy jet. I listening to yacky sacks. She's she's like, I've not seen you move this much in a really long. Thank you for calling me fat. And also. It's it's just feels really good. She was like you're having so much fun. Also. Yeah. Because it's like, I'm it's weird in between space where it's like, I know this is good for my body. And I'm not thinking about that park is once I think about that part. Then I'm gonna probably stop doing it. But on the other side of that. It's like it has that like amplitude thing that I love about games like that that are music and score. And you know, you trying to figure out how to get the best run of something like games like that. I love stuff like that. So it was fantastic kind of just jump into it. And I remember seeing everybody else played before. And I was like I don't know what the big deal is. And then I started to get into. This is perfect. This is so this is so good. And I was like just when you get that that like lean in where you're just like, okay. I have the part of the part of the screen. It's like what you have to kneel down or you have to bend down. Yeah. And I was like, oh, it's like right at the perfect height where I have to. Been down enough with like a squat. Like that in my butt on. I was great like I felt it in my hamstrings have hamstrings okra hamstring. This has been tastic. Yes. It was. It was great. It's so much fun. I'm like waiting to now play the harder levels. I want things that are really fast like really get a good sweat. Yeah. They gotta put songs on the way. I think. A bunch of thirty songs coming to deal. See just worry though that I'm like because I sweat a lot. So I'm just like, I'm just my poor VR headset is going to be. Oh, yeah. I told you my wife is like if you play that again, you need to put a towel down the floor. We're not I'm not gonna ruin our floors because you're eat savoring enough. Honey. Who? Well, I I'm really excited about what we're about to talk about too because Christian I got a chance to try the magic leap, which is something I have been dying to try ever since developer kits. Kind of went out into the wild. Actually was trying to find somebody on Twitter that would let me drive however, long needed to drive to get to them 'cause I've been so excited to try magic leap I've been reading a lot about it. But thankfully, Christian had the hookup, and we got a chance to to give it a give it a go right Christian. Yeah. A friend was kind enough to let us play with it. And. I joked to you that you know, as you were tweeting to everybody who got PlayStation VR. Welcome to the dawn. I was like what do I tweet to you? When you say that you've been playing magically welcome to the what what's after dawn, the high noon like, what's the what's the variance here. We play morning look into mid morning. Welcome to midmorning. We're not quite there yet we have to go. But man, it's a good day. We spent most of the time in the create app, which lets you fill the world with little objects and little AI like a night in a drag in a you. Let's start start a little farther back. If you're not familiar with what magic leap is. It is a forthcoming a Hayao it's out, but it's like five thousand dollars he adds for developed. This is not a consumer product. It's not meant to be. It's not the final version of the final form factor. It's not the it's not a sellable product. Right. As you have a rich friend. You too can play magically. Yeah. But it is an A R headset. A with inside out tracking. That is completely free form. You have a little thing that attach to your belt or you're talk it. It's a pager with a wallet with the patriot chain. Yes. Oh, man. It was just it was the perfect foreshadowing this moment. Yes. It is a slightly larger than a pager in on your belt, and you got the the chain connecting it to your headset. The headset is a little awkward, but it fits over your eyes. I don't think it is made yet to to work with classes. But it it doesn't put you in VR doesn't eliminate the world you see through these glasses. You see the world you're in. But then it layers on digital imagery, and it has sensors that can map out the entire geometry of the room you're in. So that it can incorporate that geometry in the things that it's. Digitally presenting to you. And that's an important first step. It has the ability to remember rooms don't have to do it. Every time supposedly we were in a new space. But part of it is you set up the room, and you track the room in knows where everything is. So this had a a table in the middle. So if I were playing in this other game, you can drop a thing, and it drops in it lands on the table, and it can then walk off the table, you can build a ramp that goes up and down to the table at knows all of this space since you can see through it. It's a are hollow lens is another device. People might be more familiar with that. They haven't heard of magically because it was at three three years ago or whenever that was. But you're in like a are on your phone, you know, Pokemon, go, right? Like, you can see the world. But because this is a headset glasses you're wearing your hands are unencumbered in. This has a controller that is kind of a cross between the vise touch controller and the. Little joy con thing that Oculus would come with. It's not a controller like not quite as complete as the vibe controller, but has more functions than just a little Oculus wand remote, and it it didn't. Yeah. Like said layers everything into that world. But it's all three d so if you create something or you're playing a game where you build something in this space, you can walk around it and experience it living in the real world. But also in three D space of the fictional world. That you kind of build into me one of the biggest changes of this was as you, and I are playing with it. I'm still so used to you, and I doing VR demos with people and playing with people are still talking to you like, yes. So I'm right in front of you. I can see you. And it's like, oh, yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right. But it's still this section in my head of like you have these goggles on what? No, no, no, no. I put my bag over there. Like, yeah. I got it. There's a dragon on your bag in VR. I see less than you see in our see everything you see plus some stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, yeah, we can talk about the experiences, but yes, good point on backing it up, but I will just say mind blown I wish that the field of you was was bigger. But I mean, this is it's the real deal everybody. It is the real deal. It's absolutely incredible. I agree. Yeah. It was it was dramatic. It was I mean, I I have experienced we both have experienced the hollow lens. And it's been several years since I've experienced at least. Yeah. And so I'm hoping that technology's come a long way at the time if felt. It was cool. But it really felt like it was in its infancy magically is is I would say what little pass toddler it is it's not an its infancy. It's not full grown and ready to go. But it is it's like a middle school kid. You know, like, it's fun. It's interesting. It's it's beautiful. The the the quality of the image of layered on the real world is really neat. You were talking about this create mode where you can place things in the world that that stay where you put them or move around. And you can you know, make a tree grow on the floor or add characters around the world. And that's all neat. But then we got a chance to play a game. I don't know how much of a tech demo. It is hotter real grow, growed abort invaders. Yes. Basically, this is the kind of game that you've probably heard about with a are where stuff comes out of the walls of your house and attacks you, and you have a gun, and you shoot it. And that is just I can't overstate how just cool that is. I mean, when you have a wall just just the pure act of shooting a laser, and it leaves a Mark on the actual wall in the room is just incredible. But this game, I think out does that because a wall will open up a portal will open in the wall, and you can see through it into this crazy alien world in through it. Well, as on as if you're looking through a light hologram, and you can still see your wall. It does a really good job of filling that space that you're seeing through and it's like, okay crap through my bathroom wall. There's apparently this alien world. It's really striking. That's a great point to emphasize because. Yes, it there. What you probably imagining his like Star Wars, you know, with the blue hologram that exists. It's not that. It really does feel like my wall is not there anymore. What's there is a portal to another place, and that place extends way beyond my wall. There's I can look and as I walk up to it. I can like rotate my head around and see just like you would a windy. Yeah. Yeah. Exporting things will crawl through that and come at you. And you're you know, you're blasting them with your with your laser pistol. And I mean, it's it's extraordinarily there's a the room. We happen to be in had kind of like, a waste high a little wall almost like like an island in in it, and you know, you can have an kitchen or something and characters would run behind it and use it for cover. NPC care is not me empty characters would. But you could also and it was up to it. Yeah. You could. And so they they knew enough to do that the game. Understood the environment in the sophisticated enough way to do that. And I took me a second because you just expect that because you've been in this room. You know, you can go behind it. You just expect the fact that anybody could go behind it. But when an animated not real thing, doesn't it took me a second ago. My God, that's extrordinary that actually did that. But again, as Christian mentioned feel the view is the big problem. It's really the big hurdle to make this thing. The game changing world changing next gen kind of experience that we all want because you are seeing all those cool things, but not in your preferable and not your head can easily move to the point where now this thing doesn't have legs or doesn't have a head because it it's cuts off the top or bottom of the image. Because it doesn&