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Key West, Florida Declared a One-Minute War on the United States

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Key West, Florida Declared a One-Minute War on the United States

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Two years later they underwent hypnosis to try and recall what happened some took it as fact others thought it was a fantasy but what really happened that September night in rural New Hampshire. Join me toby. Ball for the inaugural season of stranger rivals co-production of iheartradio in grim mild from Aaron. Mckie listen to strange arrivals on iheartradio APP on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts ridiculous histories of production of iheartradio Welcome back to the show ridiculous historians thank you so much as always for tuning in. I've got to say I am super pumped To be here virtually on Monday morning with two of my favorite guys So hello to you as well. Dudes my name is Ben. My name is Ben. That's really nice way to open the show. I appreciate that It's really nice to be here with you. It's a great way to kind of start the day even though it is pushing eleven thirty Hopefully we've all been running around doing some things around our Our respective Homebound bunker situations What did you do this morning? Then let's see. I actually spent about ten minutes in the early days of the morning Writing math based food puns. That's where how many math based food. Puns does one generating ten minutes on a lot actually allies so long as you don't worry about whether or not they are good. Well that's what they say about writing in general isn't it Ben? You just gotTa do the thing. Don't worry about whether it's good or not. You're going to learn from your mistakes and eventually you'll become a math based food pun virtuoso right the old tipping point or Malcolm glad well thing it is actually a myth that ten thousand hours of practice make you a genius at something you do get better with time and science proves that we use a different part of our brain when we right then the part of the brain we use when we edit. So you shouldn't edit yourself when you're trying to do something creative but I've I've been trying to do something you know just like a mental exercise in the morning along with the physical routine to try to stay physically mentally fit What about you met? I haven't done my walk yet. Today would have really been enjoying doing nice walks. I went to a place in Atlanta called Arabia Mountain yesterday. Which is a very beautiful scenic kind of rock outcropping. I guess you could save it. It really you guys know. It feels like you're on the moon or some other weird alien planet has got these shallow pools with these bright red lichens or whatever in them and they're apparently kind of rare and they all these signs telling you not to Trod upon them. But it's a really really needs spot. If anyone's ever visiting it land it was not abandoned but it wasn't also wasn't super crowded so it's really easy to social distance out there in the wild Today I had my daughter over the weekend so I took her back to her mom she staying there for the week and then her mom made us some breakfast and I hung out there with her. Her sister and Stepdad for a while and it was very nice to to be around. Kind of like other humans For the first time in a week or so. Have you been to Arabia mountain before I have I have? Yeah this was maybe my third time But it was It's it's definitely a really special place here in Atlanta. Oh Yeah it's got. It's got a dark and twisted history. I went there a lot when I was growing up. Because my parents live nearby But what what's fascinating about? Arabia mountain is that it is part of Stone Mountain. The fourth largest BASALTIC extrusion in the world. I don't know if that will come in handy for anybody if you're playing trivia but You know keep that one in your back pocket and do check it out if you had a chance. Stone Mountain also pretty serious history of racism in a hotbed of Ku Klux Klan. Activity Back in the day and I think wasn't it the same sculptor that did Mount Rushmore. Did that weird carving in Stone Mountain that's like is it Robert e Lee. Who is it? That's in the in? The sculptor is guts on Borg Limb. I think mentioned on a I really want to do it. Episode on Him in the future also Arabia Mount Super Producer. Casey Peckham. You may be interested to know that pet cemetery too was filmed in part of Arabia Mountain. Is that right partout? That's the one with With young John Connor As a as a slightly older adult actor Edward Furlong. I think is his name. Yes actually I watched that movie again. Not Very Long Ago. I guess in the lead up to the religious coming. It's not good not good. No it's not good. There's there's some Jesus and Mary chain on the soundtrack which is okay. Oh Great And speaking of pet cemetery movie based songs guys remember the Ramones Song from the first pet cemetery movie that was called pet cemetery. And it's just like I I don't WanNa be buried in a pet cemetery or does he WANNA be buried. He doesn't want to be I think he doesn't WANNA be no. They're very much an anti Zombie. Punk band got it out But I like what you said about not spending too much time in dithering or having the the old Should I shouldn't I kinda hamlet problem a because today's episode is a very weird story about a another person who may be impulsively jumped to a decision you know. Florida's been in the news a lot lately mainly because people are still Partying on this. Lottie DA vibe out by the beaches a our story today is also about Florida sort of it's about Florida it's about war and it's it's a pretty recent war in Florida that most people have not heard of it's true it's not the war of the roses it's more of the war of the the Cox Right now you say is it. A. C. H. Sounder is conch right. I've always said call like bunk. Remember Bonk's adventures that game for What was what system was that? I don't know is the one with the little TIFF graphics. Sixteen Turbo Graphic Sixteen. So we're going to go with conch like Bonk. It's true in nineteen eighty two April. Twenty third to be exact The mayor of Key West Florida Dennis wardlow declared the Florida keys was going to become an independent micro nation and secede from the Union. And there's there's an interesting backstory to this. Let's let's rewind so consider that in the cinema of your mind the cold open and then we flash back right. So we're doing a little bit. Of A a non linear plot unraveling here so in eighteen sixty one more than a century earlier. Florida seceded right and joined the confederacy during the civil war. That's why there's still that monument on Stone Mountain the whole. Us civil war but Key West Florida state in the Union. I believe it was specifically January tenth. Eighteen sixty one. That Florida seceded And they were just the third state to do so only South Carolina Mississippi beat them to it but when when they seceded key. West is is an island right. It's an island outpost and they said you know what we're not going to go with the rest of the peninsula here. We're going to stay loyal to the Union and you could say this. Set a precedent for key west kind of harvey in their own path. Independent of the rest of their state. Totally Key West has always. I've never been but people really love And I think a lot of that has to do with sort of like Kooky individualistic spirit like they have things like You know these parades. They call drag races. It aren't with cars with lots of drag performers and just in general like there's apparently a lot of like It's almost like Tijuana or something like that. Were very kind of you. Know OUT IN THE STREET. Let it all hang out kind of lifestyle there in in in. Key West It's all about relaxation Margarita. Ville type VIBE But also a lot of kind of that Florida man stuff that we always hear a lot about but a little bit more in tongue in cheek kind of way a little bit less methy a little bit more. Maybe festive too. Yeah there you go and for anyone who wants a good sense of the geography? The State of Florida as you know has to kind of primary parts. It's got what we call the panhandle and then it's got this peninsula which it makes up the majority of the state but key. West is not on the panhandle and start really on the peninsula. Either if you look at it it's at the very very very very very end. The tip of this archipelago that that Kinda swoops off of the peninsula so it's geographically isolated and You know I think I think it is also culturally unique the way you described it nor was perfect. I'm glad you mentioned the drag races. Yeah I actually just googled weird key west. And there's a website on this life in trips called six odd things to do in Key West and the first one says say hello to Robert Who is apparently a ghost? That occupies America it's considered America's fifth most haunted city and Robert is a ghost. That's been haunting key west since the early nineteen hundreds Let's see you can You can bike through an above ground cemetery. They've got biking tours. There's an event called fantasy fest That allows folks do all kinds of really elaborate body painting and that's an event and you see images of people that are essentially nude but are painted up to look like superheroes like Superman here. A wonder woman but they are in fact full nude And then of course you got your key limes very very well known And you can get lots of key lime pies like on sticks which. I'm a big fan of personally. Chocolate dipped White chocolate and there's a lot of pirate he stuff there in. Key West. There's a key West Shipwreck Museum That looks pretty. Awesome with all kinds of old relics and weird stuff is washed up from from shipwrecks for pirate ships including an entire piano. That's all covered in kind of like see. Crust barnacles pretty cool stuff. Oh and they have their their famous. Six Toed. Cat That you can go to a place. That's right yeah. The cats of the Hemingway House Ernest Hemingway's famous. Six toed cat snowball. It was cool. I went to the Hemingway House in the past because like a lot of like a lot of young writers. I was trying to make peace with Ernest. Hemingway and the cannon You know I still I still like the like is stuff. Hey now remember that story we did about Ernest Hemingway's Lesser known brother that started his own micro nation on Rafts. Full circle my friend out yet. Yep Yep full circle Full Full Peninsula. Perhaps right indeed all right so the reason. I wanted to give us all in a sense of the extreme location of key. West is because it plays into the story. It is as you said No. It is culturally. Unique. It is also geographically isolated comparison to a lot of other cities in Florida fast forward to the early nineteen eighties. There's this guy you may have heard of Ronald Reagan. The gipper is the president of the US at the time the Cold War with the Soviet Union is still ongoing and the USSR has a proxy just ninety miles away. The Communist Nation of Cuba and now and our relationship as a country has always been quite complicated with Cuba. But there's a lot of Cuban culture that finds its way into Florida and key. West is no exception and the reason is a lot of folks that were fleeing Cuba due to a lot. of drug wars and a lot of issues with the government. are illegally coming into the United States through Florida. It's really becoming an immigration There are civil wars going on chaos in general raining in that in Latin America because of a lot of this cartel stuff And this is a real problem as far as the Reagan administrations concerned. They don't want these immigrants coming in. It's very much of a of a sentiment of you know we don't need them. They're bringing drugs into the country. You know it's a problem for our country we that's not our issue. Let them deal with it. Keep them out We're in a similar place right now. Actually with the current administration which is very much influenced by Reagan. Yeah yeah we see that conflict Shen of illegal drugs and immigration which is which is misleading right just objectively so on April eighteenth in one thousand nine hundred eighty two the US border patrol set up a customs checkpoint and a roadblock at the intersection of county road nine zero five eight and U S Highway. One on the Florida mainland. This is important because it is the only way in or out of the Florida keys. Yeah it's also important because typically these kinds of roadblocks have been set up on the border side. The opponent right. Yeah this or yeah exactly. What the border. This is absolutely on American soil. In a place that is highly inconvenient for all these vacationers and revelers that are trying to get into key. West To see the six toed cat. Or what have you are you know? Do the body paint parade Which I I'm I'm assuming had to have been going on in the eighties So there's this roadblock it's a checkpoint a legitimate military checkpoint and it it. They're they're going the full nine yards checking. Id's there'll show us your papers you know. They are actually searching every single vehicle. They're looking for drugs. Looking for immigrants illegal immigrants being smuggled in and with a single likely two to four lane highway road. This is going to become a real logjam and it absolutely did. Didn't it? Then it did. It did within mere hours. There's a traffic jam. That's nineteen miles long. Still doesn't set the record for the world's longest traffic jam Which you could hear about a different episode of Car stuff but people are losing their minds and rightly so because again. This is a one way in one way out situation so word about this spreads across the country and people who have planned a vacation to key west. It's very popular tourist destination. They start canceling delivery. Truck say while there's no point make in making deliveries because we can't get through the traffic and the islands become economically. Paralysed the traffic jam by the way continues to grow at one point. It's twenty three miles long and eventually mayor wardlow that you mentioned. At the beginning he decides. He's gotta he's gotTa make a. He's got a react to this. The people demand it he only hears about the checkpoint. Now get this. He's the mayor and he only hears about this checkpoint readiness city on Sunday April eighteenth. And his he doesn't hear about it through official channels either. I think his dad told him. Jeez that's really got to hurt Because I mean this is a area that depends Hugely on on tourism and on these tourists coming in. And if you're one road in and out as being jammed up that's going to be a problem and that's gonNa cost them real Animosity towards whatever and whomever is causing this. Yeah exactly so workflows. Dad finds out about it because he's a ham. Radio Guy Chose to get into. Maybe now's the time when he gets think makes. Oh okay. Is that the one that involves like crystal kind of situation right. Isn't there a crystal the powers the HAM radio? Or what am I? Oh that's a different kind of radio. That's Adenaur those science kits where you could build a radio from crystal. Maybe that's what I meant that that's what I'm thinking of. I think a ham radio is a little more advanced than that. I think calling it a ham. Radio is misleading. By the way there is no ham involve. No what does the HAM even stand for. It's probably an acronym for something. Yeah it's definitely not him though Yeah let's you know what we're here we. Neither of us are going anywhere. Let's see let's see ham. Radio stands for Amateur Radio Ham radio. You know what how about this? Casey what are you? What are you guys? Say in the future. We do an episode on Ham Radio. Oh why not? Why not well? In this case ham radio comes in Hamdi. I'm so sorry and and word lows. Dad is calling his son and he's like what the heck's going on on route one and the has to say I don't know I haven't heard anything. So he checks with the chief of police hasn't heard anything either. This sheriff hasn't heard anything either. Florida state representative also Zip Zilch Bupkus Even the Congressman Dante fessel up in Washington couldn't explain what was happening and imagine how crazy that is your the mayor. You are finding out informally after the fact that the federal government is for all intents and purposes shouting your city down. You have to do something right. Oh I mean for all intents and purposes like to your point Ben I would've felt like an occupation or some kind of invasion right Did Not even be given the courtesy of a heads up. I would have been absolutely livid so He Springs into action With an attorney named David Horn wardlow files an injunction to get the roadblock removed And then he joins up with someone named Virginia Panico. Who's the president of the hotel and Motel Association a gentleman named Edwin Swift? Who was at the time? The President of the Chamber of Commerce An outside of a courtroom in Miami announces this This injunction And he is denied because the judge didn't have the power to grant such an injunction but it becomes a media feeding frenzy And that's when he decides whether it's on the Flyer he's given this some thought. I'll so quickly I have to assume it was kind of just a spur of the moment decision. Wardlow others the following words tomorrow at noon. We are going to succeed and we're going to become a foreign nation. Isn't that crazy that's true. That's what he said. The reporter's like You know Mr Mayor Mr Mayor Mr Mr Mayor Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah and. Then he just decides. We don't know if you planned ahead. You know if the spirit just moved him but he says we're going to be afford nation his reasoning at least the way vice puts it in their excellent article. 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Thirty one twenty redeem at DC universe dot com slash join again that's DC universe dot com slash join wardlow and his associates that you mentioned earlier. They immediately start organizing their own government. It's you know it's kind of like a nod and wink but they get Thirty different officials and thirty different leaders in the community and appoint them to all these new posts that they've made up secretary of underwater affairs as one minister of nutrition is another and we should also mention that there were some additional acts of rebellion. A pilot buzzed the roadblock when they were flying back to key west because he could go past the traffic jam right and buzzing just for anyone who's wondering buzzing something in a in an aircraft is when you fly really low and it gets super loud. It's like it's like a drive by. It's like an airborne drive by. Oh yeah so definitely like. It's like an airborne. F You kind of you know right. Yes yeah I and then that little biplane eventually landed back in key west and by then it was all over the news And it'd become a pretty big story a bit unexpectedly By the way Cox was a nickname for For Key West locals And like Kiwi exactly just like Kiwis Fosse's or whatever these are Cox Like bonk's and at this point The story was really taking off the phones. At the mayor's office were going nuts. There were concerns from local citizens Understandably if this was to be taken seriously like our is our dollars and cents are American currency goes still hold What about our social security numbers and things like that? There were death. Threats being levied at the mayor and his family at the very least He was cautioned that this was a really really really dumb career. Move and Yeah and then the city's Commissioners and representatives From Monroe County Didn't want anything to do with. They were absolutely against the plan. It seemed like a fool's errand even if it was sort of a tongue in cheek nose thumbing at the US government. But he was going to do what he was going to do. And he had started this This crazy thing and he was gonNA ride it out at least until it. You know became completely untenable. Right right all hail. The CONCH REPUBLIC. Mirrow wardlow has the benefit of retrospect here You know we're looking back on it. He'll say okay. Ecorse was a tongue in cheek response to political issues but he also admits that Friday April twenty third nine hundred eighty two when they were the thick of this. It was very serious and very frightening at the time he plans to make a proclamation of secession speech in the hours. Leading up to his secession speech you know. We mentioned that he speaks with pilot. That Guy Accounting Tony in Tony has offer to fly his biplane over some ships hanging off Mallory Square and he says you know what naught mayor. I'M GONNA bomb them for you with my homemade conch fritters which sound really good right and this is not misleading like ham radio these are actual edible. Conch fritters totally. Have you ever had a concrete or ban? There was a there. Was a papa place that Karaoke bar here in Atlanta called AMFAM? That had a little pop up. Conch fritter guy that was there And they were really good. They almost like a corn bread kind of situation and the conch it almost as like a A scallop it's sort of like a soft not particularly flavorful. See Meat but when the season really well and put in these fritters if they're quite delicious. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah I've I've cooked concrete before Just kind of as an experiment you know. Sometimes you go the grocery store hungry and you pick up dumb stuff because you're you think that you can make something ambitious in amazing. I was one of the weird ones I bought was a CONC I cooked. It ate it but I definitely think there's an art to it and it's all about you know wins fried. It's all about the flavoring right. You gotta get that On it exactly that. Ooh Mommy not my most descriptive moment. Ben was good. There are more I was here for with So this did happen. This idea that they were going to bomb with conch fritters and again all in the spirit of this kind of goofy protests and That was the plan they were going to attack the. Us Navy and this was sort of their declaration of war And this guy telling us clearly very zealous about this whole cause was coined to help out with this And here's the thing though. It wasn't exactly clear Whether or not this was a joke or not at the time. Right right absolutely This you know one thing that the federal government doesn't like to do is to play around with secession so the secret service the FBI. Other federal agents are legitimately confused. They don't know whether or not to arrest the mayor. And this confusion this fog of war. It's called Happens in part because of the media the Miami Herald erroneously reports that the conch republic is going to attack offshore naval ships which you will recall is partially true and then lower the US flag. Replace it with their own. Now we're getting into kind of a world of conflicting narratives because some of the details remain unclear. But here's what happens. The press along with the feds flood key West because they WANNA lock this down. And it's not you know it's like it's like you're not supposed to make bomb jokes when you're going through security at an airport senior. GonNa Secede is kind of like that so at noon on April. Twenty Third Nineteen eighty-two Mayor wardlow reads this proclamation of secession. He's changed his title for mayor of key. West Prime Minister of the conch republic and he in his secession speech. He declares war on the United States. He declares war on the United States through a symbolic act of bonking over the head. A gentleman ceremoniously dressed in. Us military garb Not only a piece of Stale. Cuban bread Whole thing is just getting more and more ridiculous I kind of I'm kind of here for honestly right right We have some of the statement. Here he unfurled the conch flag. And it's you know for colleges in the crowd You'll be interested in this. It's a blue field was stars and a Horse Conch and in a neat little tropical sun and he says I declare the Key West. She'll now be known as the CONCH Republic. We serve notice on the government of Washington to remove the roadblock. We're ready to put up a permanent border to new foreign land. Ben There might have been a skype lag. But did you say Horse Conch Horse Conch yes. Con C. H. I got that. Is that like a particular type of conch. Shell like a like a like a big one. Yeah Yeah Yeah Let's see we could pull up a picture here? It's Yes there's the giant horse conch. It's the it's the street name for Trip loaf leucippus Palos gotta remember the Conch in Lord of the flies that was how they They knew who was allowed to speak. They would pass around the conch. That's right that's right man. What a what. A good book to reread Today WHO's that William Golding? Was that the all it is. But what an odd book to assign to eleven year olds. Yeah Yeah it's so dark and upsetting and in full of all kinds of strange sexual innuendo. I loved it when I was that age but I do think it's a pretty dark intensely violent book I know it's one of the One of the more controversial ones and they may not even assign it as much anymore. Same with Catcher in the Rye but we lucked out. We got all the really dark and grim books assigned us and we were in school and look how he turned out. Just fine mainly I read. alive cels night when I was middle school and that is a heavy book for children. There was another one that I remember that I was assigned called the Bridge Bridge over. Tara via the bridge and tear Busia. Yeah Bridges to tear busy. I loved it. I thought it was really moving and newly wonderful. It's one of those ones that kind of teaches kids how to accept death and tragedy and loss But it's also one of these ones that it's like this fantasy world that these kids occupy because they can't cope with how sad and kind of like you know Dull their lives are sort of And that was a heavy one for me and that was another really really controversial when for kids. But we digress. Yes well we You know I think it's an interesting point. I want to see any kids in the audience or any parents with kids in the audience. Here what are what? Are Your kids reading what kids read now in middle school because I think the three of us all got thrown some plot twist by reading some heavy heavy books and not the humble brag algae straight out brag? The three of us were probably in the nerd English classes. I think that's that's probably the case. Oh totally I also started reading Stephen King and stuff by the time I was I think twelve so I was already like I was going down that rabbit hole. There was no coming back for me. Yeah I probably should have waited a little while to read the stand and it definitely should awaited but Let's instead of digressing. Let's progress right. This is This speeches met with some support as you said their protest signs there at the rally Some of them are like you know silly. Ya Not a wink and other ones are kind of You know here. In the south there are people who consider themselves series secessionists. So I'm sure there were a couple people in key west. Who were like? This is a great opportunity. Oh totally and that's the problem with this. If there is a problem per se essential. What is that? I think it happened so quickly that not enough people kind of were sure. Sure if it was a joke or not because I mean you know. There's a lot of people that lack the sense of humor to know that if there's talking about Concha bombings. And you know the names of some of these Positions like the Minister of underwater activities. You know they couldn't quite pick up the fact that maybe this was all a bit of a gag but that's the problem. It wasn't very clear to too many people. So there is a lot of like polarizing responses to this or polarized responses rather. Yeah totally this is. This is the thing this reminds me of one of my Favorite cinematic metaphors. Prime Minister wardlow finds himself in the situation that the sourcres apprentice Mickey Mouse found himself. In in fantasia he you in fantasia Mickey Mouse Like magically automates the mops. I think and then quickly goes out of control. Prime Minister Wardlow Ak The former mayor of key West looks upon the chaos and the people chanting after they break that bread over that individual the naval uniform. And he thinks this is getting out of hand. And I've just declared war on the entire United States. So how long does this war last null about a minute? One minute sixty seconds I think because wardlow our new prime minister Kinda gets wise to how maybe he jumped the shark on this a little bit. Maybe he pushed this a little too far. And it's absolutely possible that he is in danger of having his small new island micro nation actually bombs or at the very least experienced some really serious consequences from the US government so he pretty quickly very quickly in sixty seconds in fact surrenders. He's like JK JK. Hashtag no treason because trees industrial. Carry the death penalty here in the United States. Today's episode is brought to you by IBM. Technology is becoming more. Open Data. More accessible in the world more innovative. Ibm is combining their industry expertise with open source leadership of Red Hat to bring you more freedom. More security more flexibility. 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There's this sort of Merry Pranksters Electric Kool aid acid test vibe to some of their social activism and disruption here because for two weeks wardlow has a guy named Peter Davis from Key West last chance saloon shooting cannon blinks at that border checkpoint until the border patrol goes away. These are blanks. But they're of course they're very loud and looking back. This actually turned out thankfully. No one was injured or killed in sixty seconds war But this this also oddly enough may have been a benefit for the people of Key West. It may have given them attention nationally that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise but I don't think they ever got the billion dollars though very important. I mean that seems like a bit of a stretch anyway. If anything they were disrupted for how long? How long do you think total we had they had to deal with this roadblock? Do we know that all right so we know it started on April eighteenth nine thousand nine hundred eighty two We know that the speech was a few days later. April twenty third right so after that speech that's when they declared war and then walked back immediately and then within days of a of this activism the Border Patrol actually reneged in the they pulled back and they closed down the checkpoint so not very long. How long is that? Like five days. maybe maybe I know for two weeks though they were shooting the cannon blinks so they were building up to this so I guess maybe a week after all. I'm trying to quantify here as you know what potentially the Steve Economic Damage would have been to the city of Key West. I think a billion seems a little bit on the high side. Oh Yeah I see. I think they chose it because it's super villain sounding number just an absurd number. The continue with that Mary. Prankster VIBE Yeah so they definitely didn't get that but they did clear the roadblock eventually they gradually started phasing it out and then then it was gone. I I will say this. I mean it's it sure seemed like a pretty thoughtless act on the part of the Border Patrol. Don't you like they didn't really think about the consequences and they are? They either? Didn't care or they did not fully that you know how this was going to affect this. The city right. Yeah Yeah. That's that's the thing you can see the logic behind it because that route and that intersection. It's a choke point so you would want to be so you would be able theoretically to catch drugs if they're being transported on that road but what it was that there were so many other avenues for the drug trade You know going by water going off air. There are a couple of other different options and they didn't really plan They didn't plan the infrastructure. They needed right. They just didn't have it there and they obviously didn't think about the effect this would have on the locals but the CONCH Republic No. It is longer officially its own nation. It remains Alive and well in the hearts and minds of the key West residence as a matter of fact We are getting pretty close to key West Independence Day. It is every April twenty third. It's an annual celebration. The conch republic issues Passports and visas referring to the US the northern territories. We do want to mention. They are not legal passports. They're not legal visas. You cannot use these at an actual border. Yeah it's just another kind of quirky by the top of the show One of these events that gives a folks Visiting curiosity and opportunity to kick their shoes off and party And Yeah it really is kind of a thing that is very much part of the history of of key west and it's sort of quirkiness And by the way there also are conc solicits in four cities across the world That they have a designated in memory of this event as well love it. Love a good pun And love a Badwin too so this is interesting. Because they you know what they've got another Pun love. It's their Their national motto. We succeeded where others failed on. And if you if you ask people how seriously this is taken since as you said. They have an international presence. The mayor at the Key West Mayor has pretty interesting response. He says the CONCH Republic is as real as state of mind And Sweet. They should really put that on an airbrush t shirt. Oh yeah totally actually. An average t shirt with the sleeves off so that. It's not really a tank top. What do you call that one of the a muscle shirt? Is that the same thing as a as a muscle shirt. I think when there's no sleeves Bursley I call it a vibe I agree. It's that Florida vibe Florida vibe. So we hope that you have some personal experience with the conch republic and let's hear from you do a lot of people in key. West actually have a conch republic flag or a passport or is it more. Is it more like a tourist thing? Like do people visit key west and then get the flag and the passport and Visa. And so on. It seems pretty cool. I wish I wish more I wish. More states and cities had that kind of tourist draw in the big question. The last question. Could this happen today or would someone do it today? I'M GONNA go ahead and say just personal opinion. I don't think people would do this I I don't even think key West would do this today. No I don't think so either It seems a little risky and it seems like not a great look considering things like September eleventh and Some of the The heightened tensions involving terrorism and all of that being patriotic is pretty pretty important And especially to a government official. This would not have been a good look You know in in recent years one thing just Fernie like international geopolitics nerds Thing that was interesting. I I agree with you completely. By the way there's I I don't think this is a good move to do post nine eleven you know arguably it wasn't a good move then but it was pretty funny but Fernie Reading geopolitics international travel nerds in the audience. The conch republic's secretary general issues passports. That are pretty expensive. The I don't know if you saw this but the application fee for one is anywhere from one hundred dollars to twelve hundred and there's one guy the Secretary General Peter Anderson until he passed away in two thousand fourteen. He claimed that he had used his conch republic diplomatic passport to travel to thirty other countries and even said that he was able to get back into the US with it five times. That should never happened by the way. That's like you and I making ridiculous history passports or Ben Bucks. Oh my gosh. My grinch heart grew assize and a half man been bucks. Why not bring bring him back as what? I say ridiculous history passports and ban books Who knows all bets are off now in this This new world that were emerging for into We could maybe make a real case for that. We'll maybe man you know if if I've got you guys on my side Has A team. There's not much they can stop us except of course You know will will be stuck in our rooms absolutely And just just to you know really quickly Do a little check in all right. Then you you getting Getting things done feeling okay about the the quarantine situation. Yeah Yeah Yeah I Found my dare shirt. Oh even looking for that forever. No right yeah I know that we're all doing some creative non work stuff. It's very important. You know Nil you've been. You've been really digging deep into music. I've been writing And I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to hearing some tunes. Thanks man I'm actually Collaborating on a little something with our boy chuck from stuff you should know he's been doing some kind of cover socks Sort of redoing them in his own style. And I'm going to add a little bit of a little bit of Guitar Them. So that'll be fundamentally that later today that's awesome. We want to hear about your creative projects. I if you have like US found yourself With a little more limited mobility than you're used to of course it can be a day-to-day to day thing and it can be a real struggle to Find your creative voice if you are. You know if you're worried But it can also be tremendously freeing thing so let us snow and let your fellow listeners. Know about your projects. You can find us on facebook. You can fight us on instagram. You can find us on twitter not just as a show but as actual facts real life human people. It's true you can find me on instagram. At how now Noel Brown doing whatever it is that I do post a lot of memes and Just you know videos of me around the house. I might post some of these tunes and I'm working on but I also might not but I'm leaning towards. Maybe and you can find me on Instagram at Ben. Bullen of where I am on a number of strange projects. There won't disclose here on air. You can also join me on twitter. I am at Ben. Bullen H. S. W. A. Hit me up with any of your questions about prepping. Any like folklore questions We got pretty cool email about moth man and I wanNA point out that Casey Nolan. I actually went to point. Pleasant West Virginia Chewed Mothman Museum in. Swag from that still got the hat actually. Got My kid t shirt. I don't think I got myself anything. But she has a Nice Shocking Pink Mothman Museum t shirt that I that I very much enjoy. She might even grow out of it though. That kid is like shooting up like a weed as they said well I think she'll always cherish it as a as a cool memento of time. Yeah well she could also pass it onto her little sis. Yeah that's perfect plan. You know. That's that's it for us today. A thanks as always to our research associate Gabe Museu- who I don't think is a conch republic sympathizer for sure and of course. Thanks Alex Williams who compose this This banging Bob you here at the beginning and end of every show thanks to Christopher House. Yoda's here spirit. Jonathan Strickland and his nefarious alter-ego. The quitter maybe. We'll do a little skype him on one of these From his absolute secret bunker that he has had been maintained and lived in this whole time. it's some sort of like villains. He's got something like a under a glacier totally and of course thanks to eat. Geoff coates checkout her daily podcast. This Day in history class and of course of course of course. Fakes your producer. Casey Program An anti EU. Ben Thanks thanks to you and you out there in podcast late last most importantly thank you to all the people on the front lines in these are troubled times That's not just the military. That's not just the excellent nurses doctors medical professionals. That's everybody WHO's working at a grocery store dealing with panicked people. Everybody who's running the central services like a you know like Sanitation and thanks to everybody. We're in this together here hairband. We'll see folks for more podcasts. 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In Cuba, climate change means harsher hurricanes and tough coffee growing

Climate Cast

04:40 min | 2 years ago

In Cuba, climate change means harsher hurricanes and tough coffee growing

"Support for climate cast comes from Bank of America as one of the largest global financial institutions Bank of America is in a unique position to help society. Transition to a low-carbon economy Bank of America NA member FDIC. Climate change, Cuba and your morning coffee. I'm MPR chief meteorologist, Paul Hutton here. This is climate gas. Climate change impacts are showing up worldwide. Our neighbors in Cuba, sit just ninety miles south of Key West Florida last week, I visited this beautiful island for the first time and I shared coffee with famed Cuban meteorologist Jose, ruby era. I learned about Cuba climate change and surprisingly Cuban coffee. That is we yes, please have some coffee Jose. I'll never be a PHD. I'm the former director of the national forecast center east for majority. That's the natural west have is the set time for many years. Also, I've been presenting weather in Cuban radio and television host say Grazia mature goose still. It was a pleasure to talk with you today here in Havana at the hotel Nacional when we talk about climate change in Cuba. What are the biggest impacts that Cuba is seen from climate change so far? Well, the because he banked is the raising up to she lever. Now, does he live house reason ferry vice Timmel's in the last thirty years thing pictures have risen also sealed point nine Chechen degree about one degree treasures on the Lincoln shown are the coastlines that long Cuban coastline is extremely vulnerable. To storm surge. Hurricane irma's. Search pushed several feet of water into the streets of Havana. Dr ruby era is one of the world's premier experts on hurricanes. Any told me his big concern is the growing link between warmer, oceans and more rapidly. Intensifying hurricanes part of his job on Cuban TV raising Cuba's climate change. I q what's the awareness level of climate change in Cuba with the people? Well, this White House not only in Asia climate change, everything that has to be with winning. Diamond because we in Daly broadcast for television radio. We also teach believed by little people. I wish awareness and knowledge. Even as we traveled outside of Havana climate remained, the topic of conversation. I'm just north of Trinidad in Cuba at topa, date tapes. It's a mountainous area where they grow coffee and our tour guide nasc- is telling us about how climate change is affecting coffee production in Cuba. Well, what is happening is that it's raining when it's not supposed to be the rainy season or the stood ri- when it's not supposed to be the dry season. And just to give you an example, the coffee plants they used to bloom like three times in a year. And then at the end they had a really good crop. Yeah. But now, they are blooming only one or twice the farmers are lucky, you know, because if it rains when the plants are having their flowers, the flowers hall, and then at the end, there are no beans, and that is happening, you know, with the coffee plantations so many years ago, the farmers they could use the same plant life for twenty twenty five years now that is not happening anymore. So now the maximum time, they they leave their plans at the patience is like ten years talking with Cubans like, our guide nasc-, I sense a high level of. Climate change awareness in Cuba. There's also something I learned back at lunch in Havana. I heard how Cuban's see Dr ruby era as their weather God hosts say was traveling in two thousand seventeen as hurricane Irma approached listen to restaurant owner, ROY describe how Cuban's missed Jose's weather reports on TV. I think it was a guy TV the first today's guy we had to be alert. Okay. Off on the one eighty we have through research. We have to know what's going on by the way. That's climate cast. I'm NPR chief meteorologist Paul Hefner.

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Podcast 284: RVers share why they chose the RV Lifestyle

The RV Podcast

48:42 min | 1 year ago

Podcast 284: RVers share why they chose the RV Lifestyle

"Hello everybody welcome to the RV. Podcast episode two seventy four. This week we talked to a whole bunch of our fears and they share why they chose the RV lifestyle and one of the reasons of them chose. It is so they can still do their jobs while traveling by working remotely like a college professor. Everything's done online nowadays. There's nothing that stoppable stop us from him continuing doing teaching or anything. He needs to do online Because everything there's Wifi everywhere you can use your phone as a hot spot you can do a different stuff to get into the Cobra. Working remotely is pretty good. Thing is very very good thing. We'll fellow travelers. It's time for another episode of the RV. Podcast your questions. Sharing tips suggesting great trips in off the beaten path adventures and always staying on top of the RB lifestyle news. You need to know about with great interviews and insight Industry Information and hosts award-winning Journalism Mike and Jennifer win-win. Welcome to another edition of be. Rv podcast this win being recorded live versus the opposite in Key West Florida beautiful sunny hot and Humid Key West Florida. Eighty six degrees out there and that we had to turn the air conditioner off inside the vehicle. Recording this other ways we would have been really hot. We're so glad that you joined us. We have Some are we want to introduce you to interview the week segment. We got lots of news. Tips and Off The beaten path report but I my lifelong traveling companion and my bride Jennifer. Hello my dear alone Michael. You warm enough. I M Warm Enough. A you are looking extremely key. Westie as I said this morning in your bright I don't know what I call it kind of kind of floral floral print old fit in key less. Well you do fit in your kind of a fun girl and this is a fun town. It's beautiful we are staying at Boyd's. Rv Campground which is kind of the kind of the best known of all the RV parks down in Key West. And it's it's a little surprising when you first Poland. Well it's a little bit of an adjustment because we had been in a state park where we had our huge camping site and they the first spot. They put us in was right next to the bathroom or literally. Bo was walking into the ladies room. He was hope and they were very nice and they moved us to a little bit larger spot. Yeah the staff here is really really nice and we have. We are in a different spot Although I will admit that was a challenge to get into that spot and I was so happy to be here that I wasn't paying attention. Disaster was narrowly missed straight narrowly. Miss them glad it was missed. You hear the jets from the Naval Air Station in Key West In the background and you might hear bowl. Who's chewing on a bone? I him a bone so he would be happy. I mean the poor guy has had kind of stressful morning. He's had a stressful morning. How about me? We better back up and explain. We took bow as we always do to Get rid of his energy at a dog and it's a really nice dog park. We found at Higgs beach here in Key West dog park but key West has known for a couple of things and one of the things is Would bow calls a dinner You know on the loosened Free Dinner. There are chickens running around all over the place. 'em Bo wants them. He wants them really bad and I actually snapped picture that I put up on our instagram page this morning and I had the the leash wrapped around my wrists and he then he he was great for the pictures. He's looking at these birds and I thought he was just looking pretending decided that that was lunch and he lunged and I thought I broke my wrist. I really did. It's a miracle your hand wasn't traveling down just men. That dog is strong but I survived. Just remember if both played football he'd be a linesman he would be a would line and he certainly would So it's been a crazy week of travel. We want to give a shout out to all the people who we met at Sunshine State. Are there display at the Ocala? Rv Show last weekend in fact. That's where we recorded many of the interviews that you'll hear today from people and I should apologize for this because the sound is it's everybody's talking at once and it's sometimes hard to hear but since that's the interview I had scheduled and we've got it all edited. Hopefully you'll all forgive us for the poor sound won't happen again. I promise but you can make it out. It was so noisy where there were so many people and everybody was talking at the same time excited. Hey speaking of of meat in Greece. I should Let everybody know we have Have one coming If you are listening to this in sort of real time and buy real time I mean this is March fourth As we released this episode. And if you are anywhere near the Naples Florida area we want to give you a heads up on a meet-and-greet that we're GONNA do there. We are excited. We met some folks at the Tampa. Rv Show back in January and they said hey if you're If you down in Naples would love to have a meet and greet and so. We're going to do that and it will be this coming Sunday March Eighth. Two Thousand Twenty and we will meet from three to five PM at the Bone Hook Brewing Company. That's on Emily Road in Naples Florida. I'll put a link to that in In the in the show notes for this episode. But it's Sunday March eighth Naples Florida at the Bone Hook Brewing Company. And if you're around you are invited. I didn't know before we move on if we should talk about how. We're getting around on Key West. Yes well I you've been very kind not to not to tell everybody about my new disaster yesterday as I backed up but go ahead. Well we decided that we weren't going to go in and out of the spot that we have so. We rented a golf cart. Yeah this taking bowl to the dog park this morning. We all had to travel on a golf cart. And didn't I first of all Don? I have a nice wife. Everybody because the reason we're not going in and out of the spot is it's a real tricky spot to get into and I almost backed into one of our neighbors car and his RV. That's because you didn't have somebody helping. Yup I thought I was. I had more. I didn't sufficient close and we decided instead of the hassle of pulling in and out. Because if you've ever been deployed in Key West you know it's a really great campground wonderful people but the spots are very close together and we decided it would be cheaper to rent a golf cart then to back into somebody yes it was and so we the three of us Jen. Me and Bo savvy the front seat in the front seat and we gave photo ops. Too many people wrote down the street. I think many people had huge big smiles and other people probably shaking their heads. I think we should dire out to ever grow up in the tour and know that you don't do that. I think we should hire out to the Chamber of Commerce because we did give many photo opposites who said today it was so cute bow was sitting right between the two of us and he was totally enjoying the breeze in his face he was happy we have been challenged as we do this podcast because we have been traveling a lot. We have let everybody know that. Actually it's a working trip down here. I wish we brought our e bikes. I really am kicking myself because they would be perfect here in key west. Just perfect but then we have the Mo we have the ball so we're going to have bowe watched Tomorrow and Thursday doggy daycare. So we can go out and we have our golf cart and why it's so much easier to park and get around in that and we will do that. We are down here working and this whole trip and Florida is really to get the photographs. We need all. The research is down all the writings down for our next to. Rv. Seven Day adventure guides and we have two more coming in Florida to join the first one which was out just a month or so ago and that was actually released at Christmas. Are Florida Gulf. Coast seventy adventure guy. That's out now. I know many of you have written us and said you loved it and you want The rest of the state so we originally do just one more. We were going to do the East Coast but to that. We are going to add one on just the keys. Because there's so much to see down here so many different attractions different places to say so. We'll have three of them. Three of our adventure guys on Florida won the Gulf coast. One on the East Coast which will be out very soon. May just save in a matter of days as soon as I can get my pictures up and formatted and then the third one on the keys. We'll be following shortly thereafter and. Let's face it so many of our viewers come to Florida to escape the snow and winter. So that's why three three guides are here and they'll join the so much to do. Oh there is and we have We spent some time the first week in central Florida. And to tell you the truth I was not looking forward to that I figured. Oh yeah no what are we GONNA do? We didn't do. We didn't do as a dog walking by we didn't do Disneyworld and all that stuff. That's a whole separate thing and we're not going to do a guide about that. There's plenty of resources for that but we did do We stayed in an over fifty five resort. We've never experienced that before and we thought we should experience it. We'll tell you about that in a video coming up. And then we found some great places to Boondock in the Ocala national forest and we were very excited about that but we were a little puzzled by. We saw a lot of poverty and later on we learned that a lot of people live in the forest sehgal deep into it and they live there and they some of them in old abandoned no longer operable. Rv's or cars or trucks or shanks shanties and then we were told about something about a thousand people who use drugs trade tribe. Yeah they come they come February okay and but we nevertheless found some great dispersed camping places. You get to meet some new people we did. We did we met. Yeah I won't go into detail but there are some interesting characters that live back there and There's a it's a huge huge national forest and there's lots of everybody and we found a great site a great site eaten lake. Which we'll tell you about in both the Guide and in a video we'll have coming out in a couple of weeks but that was really fun. Then we went over to the space coast. And you can't go wrong with the Kennedy Space Center and they even have free boarding for your dog. Although Bo would not speak to I wouldn't call it boarding that. Lets you watch the dog for a while. They Watch Oh. Yeah while you're doing the tour but it's that's that was nice air conditioned air conditioned and we did a camp out at Jetty Park which is a well-known park right next to All of the cruise ships that go out so that's kind of fun to watch them go out from Jetty Park. Yeah I gotta say that I Carnival ship took off and everybody was having such a good time in the music was blaring. I wanted to jump onto. I heard the music and I thought Oh man. We got some parties at this park and it wasn't it was actually from over in the cruise ships. It's right next to jetty park. They really go right by in front. And that was everybody party on the carnival ship and that really did look long but there were three cruise ships that took off in the short period of time. We were there anyway. And then we made our way down here to key west and we'll have videos on all of these things coming up on our youtube channel and a couple of weeks and you can follow along and we'll have our books out our Florida adventure guides. We'll have three of them all for the state and that should be fun and then we got more plan we've got Arizona New Mexico Glacier Arizona. Yeah well we just got back from Arizona so we got now we gotta get the pictures some more pictures. We'll do that Arizona and New Mexico account here. We come can take that heat. Well we can go in in New Mexico. We can go high. We can go up and stay in getting seventy two the perfect perfect weather so but that's another story for another day. Hey before we get on the PODCASTS. We want to introduce a new sponsor. And it's it's really for a product that we have been using for a couple of years now and I'm delighted that they are part of our. Rv lifestyle family and you will be too if you don't have it because you get a really great discount that we're talking about the nimble pet monitor four G. The PET MONITOR FOUR. G. is what it's called from Nimble. That's the name of the company and it is the surest way we know of how you can have peace of mind that the temperature for your pets back in the. Rv is not too high or if you're camping the wintertime not too low. We've been using the pet monitor four G. from nimble used to be called. Rv Pet safety. We've been using it for a couple of years when we travel with bowl and we are now in eighty six degree weather and when we leave him in the RV even with the air conditioner on we have such peace of mind As you as. I'm sure you know even with the fans going and the AC on RV's can really heat up fast in the sun. And the PET MONITOR FOR G USES THE VERIZON FOUR G Cell Service and it will notify you by text or it will send you an email alert. If the internal temperature of your. Rv starts to get dangerously high and unsafe for your pets thousands of pets a year. Die In overheated vehicles and using temperature monitor. That's connected to a nap on. Our phone is a huge relief. When we leave Bo in the rig for short periods of time like maybe to go out to dinner to go do a little shopping. The device delivers on consistency with battery. Backup real time temperature reporting. You can just call up the APP and see what the temperature is at any given time or it will sound an alarm to you and send you an immediate text. If it crosses the threshold of of temperature that you have set all in all the peace of mind. That Bo is all right when we leave him in. The Rig forbid is what makes this for us now you can choose to subscribe to their monthly plans if you're only going out for a month or their annual plans depending on your traveling needs and we have a really great deal we can save you and give you an exclusive seventy dollars off the Patt- monitor four G. But you have to go to a website and you have to use the Promo Code. Rv Lifestyle Promo Code RV lifestyle. The website is we made a link rate from our site just go to RV. Lifestyle dot com slash nimble and. I am B. L. E. RV lifestyle dot com slash nimble. Mike Scott News. Able use inside information and trends that shape the RT lifestyle years the RV use of the week if you are planning on driving through Arizona any interstate anytime soon. Be Sure to use only the passing lane for well passing a new state law that went into effect in January permits police to ticket drivers who stay in the fast lane instead using it to pass. Increasingly states are enacting laws permitting. Police ticket those who stay in the left lane sensitives. Not only is that poor driving but it can be dangerous putting other drivers risk. We'll put a link in the show notes for this episode. So you can find more information about the new law at RV lifestyle dot com slash two eighty four. You ever wonder which American National Parks get the most visitors let's It seems to be common story. We do this every year and once again the Great Smoky Mountains National Park received the most visitors last year with twelve and a half million Followed by Grand Canyon National Park at five point nine seven million and number three the Rocky Mountains National Park. At four point seven million. The figures were released Last week in all they showed three hundred and twenty seven point five million visitors to all of the National Parks and twenty nine thousand nine up by two point nine percent over the previous year. Also the twenty. Nine hundred visitors number was That was the third highest recorded. I did see a story that because of restricted travel a because of the Corrina Corona virus scare China has cancelled many of their trips. And if you've bandon yellowstone or many of our national parks you've seen a whole lot of Chinese people. They have regular organize group tours by the tens of thousands who come to visit our national parks and so I would imagine that those figures may be off a bit until that travel is resolved again. A team of our ears descended on Florida's Cavern State Park to help officials restore the campground devastated by hurricane. Michael in October two thousand eighteen contractors did some repairs but much still needed to be done and Florida state. Park staff were limited in how much time they could spend restoring the campground so the team. Volunteers descended and completed. Almost all the jobs leaving just one involving the campgrounds well to be done before. The site can reopen. We did a story on the caverns when we visited in a couple of years ago. We will link to it in the show notes page for this episode at RV lifestyle dot com slash two eighty four. A very sad story We saw here in Florida last week. Highlighted a couple of a couple a man and wife snowbirds who died in their RV. Because of a fire happened at the high banks MARINA CAMPING RESORT ON WEST High Banks Road near the central Florida town of de Barry and while fire officials were still investigating. It appears as we record this podcast that it was caused by a space heater apparently multiple space leaders extension cords and power strips were in use in the RV. It was very cold a week or so ago. In central Florida caught a lot of people off guard and in a report on fire safety that Jennifer and I did a few years back. We learned that there are about a thousand. Rv fires every year and one of the more common causes our space leaders. Our heart goes out to the loved. Ones of this are being couple and we thought it would be helpful in this. Podcast share a link to that fire safety posts that we did once again. A couple of years ago but Please read that. And it reminds us all what we can do to reduce the likelihood of accidentally starting a fire when we camp reader's digest had a story last week examining how much it really cost to live full time in an RV longtime readers. No this is a subject. We covered many times through the years. And much of the cost depends on how you choose to travel. Rv parks or boondock eating eating out or preparing your own meals etc. That sort of thing still. The article does include some important information about budgeting for RV maintenance insurance and such. We wanted to share it with those considering such a move. There's a link on the show notes page for this episode at RV lifestyle dot com slash two eighty four. This part of the podcast is brought to you by read. Power Bikes. America's number one e Bike brand offering direct to consumer pricing on powerful cream electric bikes and now with free shipping. Like I said we wish we had ours with us on this trip. We didn't bring them because it's a working trip and we have to cover a lot of ground but man they would have helped us here in key West it's perfect. We've seen a lot of with red power bikes cruise and we went to exploring today. Rad Power Bikes. They have all sorts of different models. That did a wide variety of writer wants deeds. They've got the fat tire versions. They got folding versions. They got to step through models like Jennifer has got Beach cruisers like the one. I have they all can reach. Twenty miles per hour was zero. Peddling they give you the choice to write pedal free with throttle. You can use five different levels of pedal assist. You can go to twenty and forty miles on a single charge and the thing about read power bikes. Besides the incredible quality is that their price often less than half that of comparable bikes on the market because the dealer retail markups chains cut out. They deal directly with the consumer. Here's a great deal for you though on top of their already. Great prices if you mentioned. Rv lifestyle at checkout. They'll take an additional seventy five dollars off your purchase plus you get free shipping on Alder bike models use that coupon code. Rv lifestyle for an additional seventy five dollars off just visit them at Rad power. Bikes DOT COM. You've Mike and his network of RV. Reporters have the answers. Here's one of our questions of the week. Might with all of the adaptive cruise and laid guidance features on the new cars. I'm wondering what. Rv's are starting to employ if any class a class B by the love to hear what you know well. I can't help him with classes but I can tell you. Class BS and classes have had lots of adaptive safety features are now for at least a couple of years. Don't you think Class BS the sprinters for example all have blindspot detection Many of them. Now have adaptive speed control. So that if you're running your your Your speed set your speed control if something comes up in front of you come too close to some Another vehicle it will automatically slow down They often have a lane assist. Meaning that if you stray off your lane they. They'll be a signal vibration or noise or an alert. All of the above We have been very impressed now. We've diving a sprinter based RV's we've had a number of class BS and we are now in a technically a class. C Leisure Travel Vans Unity. And the only thing that the bigger. Rv's have like the see. We're on it did not have the blind spot detection and that's because the units the RV's are wider than the camper. Van Type Chassis that the standards sprinters have. They have a cut-away chassis that they use for class seized. Those are wider. Now we use the solution called cub. See UBT and those are third party. Add ON DEVICES. You can install yourself and so we did that and that gives us Blindspot detection as well and we. I am very impressed with all the safety. There's also automatic breaking and break leveling steer by wire and so this is a reality and most of the class BS and the class sees for a couple of years now and all. The manufacturers ramp role master has many of these features. I think the Ford Transit in particular. The new twenty twenty chassis the Ford transit that everybody will be building soon That also has many of those adaptive features so if that's a big factor in you buying an RV you've got lots of places to go. I would be surprised. I don't know about the class as those are a whole different animal to us. What they have on it they. I'm sure are loaded with safety features to just not familiar with them. But we have a lot of comfort knowing that. We've got all those adaptive safety features on ours. Don't we and I wish I had everything on my regular car at home. Yeah I do too it would be. It would be pretty good so hey thank you for that question And we appreciate all of your questions. Here's how you can be heard on the RV podcast travelers featured on the RV. Podcast send us your questions or comments. Send an audio file to Mike. Rv LIFESTYLE DOT COM or better yet use our RV podcast voicemail number. Five eight six three seven two six nine nine zero five eight six three seven two six nine zero. We want to hear from you. Call Five six three seven to sixty nine hundred this podcast brought to you by battle born batteries makers of quality safe and reliable lithium batteries. That can be installed in just about every. Rv You can go get more information from RV lifestyle dot com slash lithium. We have battled born batteries. We have two of them and we are just delighted with him. The folks at battle born helped us match those two lithium batteries. They basically just dropped in and replace the batteries. 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Rv Show when we were there a couple of weeks ago and when we talked to everybody we always start hearing their story about howdy. Rv Why do you RV? Where do you go and you in particular? Get excited about all. You need to record this so that everybody can hear it so I didn't have my normal podcast Equipment with me at this show so I had to record them on on my iphone. He say that. But that's all I had and the problem with this. Is You have to listen a little bit hard. And there's a lot of background noise because everybody this. Is that our meet-and-greet everybody's there everybody's excited and everybody's talking so forgive us. Forgive us but What was it that we were looking for you? You just got all excited about all these people and get this person. Talk to this one. Ask Him because they were new. They were all basically knew when they were so excited and they were having so much fun and what they're doing it was very encouraging so we're going to take you with this now to the Ocala. Rv Show where we meet a lot of different RV ears and ask about why and how they're going to live the RV lifestyle. Listen Up Cow Florida the locale RV show and did a meet and greet and we get a chance to talk to a lot of different people and we thought we would make them the interview the week. We've got some of those people like we always do and talking to them and hear their story how they got started places that they've gone their excitement. We wanted to share that with you so Listen up you'll hear lots of different experiences but one thing in common. They're all having a great time. Keith. King and I'm from North Philadelphia Bethlehem Pennsylvania area and as of nine months ago. My wife and I had zero experience with Harvey lifestyle and We really all of the virtually all the information that we need from you to folks really general. I and my wife was a little very skeptical. Quite reluctant turned moving this direction but videos and the PODCASTS. We've listened to with you folks. helped her a lot with preparing things in the kitchen. Leisure Travel Van. And we're absolutely loving from folks north of Philadelphia threats great to us and glass-walled and rejoined the harvest hosts recommendation. Stay couple sites. What you're telling me that might enjoy three different. Golf courses already Just on a trip down here to Florida over the last month. And what were you enjoy about that? We're not coffers but we enjoy the Dinners that we've had the restaurants at these places and Nice private quiet vices. We Parker up next to the fairways have beautiful place to spend the night you're sharing about your wife's hell. Yes accelerated retirement due to a diagnosis. Your wife God's in the last year house she has illness not pure Severe Fatigue illness and I retired early to be able to travel and enjoy things while we cannot her? Health is enough to try one which is a great place to hell to do that because we have a small dog that we always with us and of course in the in the van. She can relax traveling anytime she feels. The need to do as much as her strength allows us to do. I'm Greg Long Time here in Florida this month. We've having a really good. Yes we join absolutely. We really made the point to come here today to try to find you and thank you. Oh because I don't think we'd be doing this. We're well thank you make it all worthwhile for us. Thank you so excited you have well. Maybe you'll be on this. Will you be able to watch yourself? How about you guys introduce yourself fire. Richardson on on island. New York retired two years ago and we were in our house up in. May Massachusetts a small cabin. But we really haven't been in it that much this year because we've travelled since August nor still on the road probably the end of March so that's about seven months. How's the amazing experience? I did a trip like this back. In nineteen seventy seven. But just a Chevy van and Ben Ben Novak so this to me is like glancing. Ltv Union has been tremendous for. You have a chance contrived pretty much anywhere around Citius. Blm areas and every other scenario that you can think of it but we we've been on Bruce about selves husband and you also rookie of Campos or just recently. We decided to try something that we've been any of Lard. In essence January second saint lot of different areas of the state and we decided to try campground hosting for the first time over. The Mike Race had branch they walk in Keystone Heights Florida and that's also been a ones experience. The people we've met just been amazing and to also have the opportunity to Chil- from fairly aggressive scheduled from August through January. Just getting around. Canada country seem many of the parts. So it's been a real pleasant experience. Be Sure you recommend that to folks and lending APP. We're finding that there's plenty of opportunities all over the country in any of the state park systems log onto their campground site fill out an application submitted and start getting some context with people for a month three months six months. It was often as little as you like. But a highly recommend at least one hundred. Sippy where are you from Bob? I'm from Webster Florida which is in the center of the state. How did you start all this? Well I guess I got a lot of experience because I develop small mobile home. Rv Hard to meet all these people who travel in everybody kept saying to travel you this John McCain and so about ten years ago reach a point which was very conservative. My mind so we can do this and go sold apart and everything. We've been traveling six months and it's been fantastic. Time has gone by faster. He just couldn't find it as things people tell you that you're lucky. Oh yeah yeah. That's like a lot of people. It's not really walk. Well sometimes you of course you do have like. It's hard work I we. We worked jobs and times being self employed work. Sixty seventy hours a week with apart. And there's no pay vacation sickly you work when you can. We don't take many vacations paying for them. So but because of that Retirement age fifty seven. And we do door activities which are quite physical and you had been shaped. I'm seventy seventy three and I'm still. I could still go turn ten twelve fifteen hikes cal and I can't ride the bicycle as far as they used to. But we do. I've done able to paddles within a different clubs. I've bled trips down the Rio Grande River River two weeks at a time traveling and we stay in our camper and we can stay right there. I'm comeback Capers area. We have dinners effort and And we'd like to do this. I think I the solar panel cares. We do have a very seldom apis George Watson and we live in villages further to starting. We've been watching your videos and really enjoy. And so I pick adventure coming up. We're We're renting her twenty five foot Kasumi going over to Walt Disneyworld. And so that's probably ten fifteen mile drive and then we're going to spend a week there and they wilderness camp ground and so we're up here today kind of looking at the next level and we're really interested in the class B but it's kind of similar it's something You know we've done a lot of camping over the years. We'd never gone this next level not healthy outside and enjoy some of the outdoors and I really liked the fact that you're GonNa try I and you'll know whether that's the right size for you know whether that's really smart. Yeah we just thought that You know there's so many options out there. And everybody's got their opinion selection for their reasons to try and see what it looks like a big selection options. And you know there's advantages disagreements with each one and so now once again having sessions like yours is good but actually living in the next. So we're looking forward to that. I might name is Sonny Watson. I live in the village Florida and my husband. He teaches online classes for the University of Wisconsin. Platt built and at home. It's easy because we can. He has his own office. Shut the door so we're looking at buying new. Rpm One of the things we want with our new are to have separation so he can go and have a quiet space. And I can still having my life on the other side of the RV. And so that's what we're looking at the. Rv Show is someplace that go watch TV or whatever and the spouse someplace to choose separate. Living areas are extremely important. Because everything's done online nowadays. There's nothing that stoppable stop us from continuing doing his teaching or anything he needs to do online Because everything is there's Wifi everywhere you can use. Your phone is the hot spot. You can do a different stuff to get Wifi into the Cobra working remotely. It's pretty good. It's very very good thing before our vacation would be planned around. Hotel STAYS TRIPS. Barnes and noble contributes to the library trip to someplace starbucks. We live starbucks. I can tell you about style so having something in our own. Arbia our own. Rv To be able to from separate us and still tell me that you can always tell when he's been teaching a class. Oh I can always tell. He's teaching the class especially when you kiss him his uniform now now. The is teaching online. Most of the time is short address shirt and a tie so I can always tell when it's coming up on a gotTa be quiet. It's teaching time. I have my shirts and my presser urging all you see on the camera wearing nine news desk. I could testify to that. I remember back in my TV days. I would When it was really hot in the summer I I'd have shorts and just a shirt tie and jacket I. When I was anchoring the Times I anchored so and then another thing I wonder whether they still do remember those that used to sit on a telephone book or we used to be taller or shorter. They wanted the. I have seen some of that on so many books. It was weird. I was worried they're going to top off but anyway those are are some of the people that we met in. You can hear so many excited voices in the background. And that's pretty. Typical of our meet and greets are aren't they? There's there's this people just immediately become best friends and we have so much fun with it. I want to again apologize for the noise. Because we didn't know we were going to record that and I wasn't prepared so that was just recorded them. They iphone in a couple of times. One of those voices in the background. I was familiar to me. My dear Farry you were you were just be a learning experience and it was but I also farther away and I'll have to be you couldn't because everybody followed US actually did move to another table and they all came over there or so but you know the RV lifestyle just has so many different factors to it and so many different reasons that people adapt to it. And I just love doing our meet-and-greet again. We are next meet and greet will be in Naples Florida on March eighth. And we're GONNA meet at a little microbrewery there the bone Hook Brewing Company To Go to our show notes episode. Rv LIFESTYLE DOT COM slash to forty two eighty four to eighty four. You'll you'll find this there. I just realized what the problem was. Normally when you're interviewing people. I'm like the bouncer. I usually stand around and I keep people from interrupting or go gotta be quiet and instead this time. I needed somebody to tell me to be quiet. It was so fun though all those people and that was In Ocala Florida we were at the booth of Sunshine State. Rv's And our friend Nick Schmidt Schmidt was at the that Ocala showing since. Why don't you guys do a meet and greet here? Because a lot of people will be there and was a great idea and it was fun because we got to meet. Nick's wife Mary and his four kids and Craig was there and Sheila. Was there in a couple of others from the From Sunshine State. Rv's if you guys don't know about Sunshine's eight Arby's they probably have the largest selection of small motorhomes of any dealer anywhere in the country. They are specialists in small motor homes. They have probably the largest inventory of used small motorhome. She'll find anyway. I couldn't believe we visited them on the way down. We looked at the dealership just to say hi. When we're passing to Gainesville Florida and there are lot was just filled with all these awesome used a class B classy motorhomes and then of course in terms of new ones. They have The brand new road track now wrote trek is back in business. They have the new Zion models that are now being produced. They have Coachman beyond the courtroom beyond the Coachman Galleria New models from Winnebago the the they have the bottle the most popular class in America. Check amount. You just need to go to their website You can buy them down here in Gainesville or you can arrange the fly down and pick it up or they'll deliver it to your driveway just Talk to nick and he'll fix it up checkout time. You heard US talking about them. Right here Sunshine State. Rv'S DOT com time now for off the beaten path army. Podcast travel suggestion. You probably. Here's my time to check in with our regular off the beaten path correspondent. Tom and Patty. Burke I mike and Jennifer before it gets to Lake Michigan the Kalamazoo River widens to form. A couple of connected. Lakes on either side are the two towns of saga talk and Douglas. There seems to be a mostly friendly rivalry between the two both established as getaway destination for Chicago residents fleeing the summer heat. Saw Guitar has a reputation as an artist colony and Douglas as a classic Lake Resort town. You can't visit one without seeing the other and there's no reason to try both are delightful and although residents have turned down a merger more than once. They share a school a library and a fire department. In the nineteen fifties when resort life was giving fired up and still today. Beach on Lake. Michigan was a favourite summertime. Hangout for Families Joe. Decker got the idea. He could make a good living selling cold drinks and hot dogs to beat visitors. This was the heyday of the American road trip and roadside attractions. Were SPRINGING UP EVERYWHERE DECKER. And his friend. Kelly went to work in his backyard in Flint. They cut and fitted stage to make a twenty foot high barrel. After it was finished. They took it apart and moved it to Douglas. Where decker owned a piece of land right on the way to the beach. The Douglas Root Beer barrel was the spot to be in those days. Selling Frosty mugs of masons signature brew along with foot long hotdogs inside. The barrel was room for two workers and outside a car hop or two took and delivered orders to the thirsty patrons just arrived from the city or returning from a long day at the beach residents. Who worked at the barrel in the summers recall lines of blocker more long on many summer nights? And how the local doctor and police officer were always passed to the front of the line. As a courtesy the barrel operated until the early nineteen seventies. Then as was the case with many outdated notions it lost its popularity closed and fell into disrepair when we're began to circulate in two thousand eleven that the barrel was going to be. Demolished residents formed a group called friends of the barrel rallied to save it. The building was once again. Dismantled and dozens of volunteers repaired and refinished the one hundred and twenty five staves that make up the exterior students from the High School Industrial Arts Program built a new base and support structure for it and the two thousand eighteen it reopened at a new home right along the beach road now again. You can stop in for a frosty Mug of barrel root beer and a foot long coney dog on your way to or from the beach and if you're travelling near Westport or only Illinois keep your eyes open because that's where the other two of these can be found. They'll be in a backyard or on a street corner or in one of the neighbor hoods. You won't ever see unless you take time to wander off the beaten path. What's happening time now to check the RV calendar events? Well we are still in the middle of RV show season and we have several of them for you know about this weekend. We'll put links at Rv LIFESTYLE DOT com slash two eighty four. And you can follow all those links to to figure out when the shows Open there'll be links to eat show but let me just run through. This is all the weekend of March fifth through the Eighth Battle Creek. Rv camping show at the Kellogg arena in Battle Creek Michigan the Colorado RV sports and travel show at the National Western complex in Denver Colorado the RV and camping show and sale at the New York state fairgrounds in Syracuse. New York the Montreal. Rv Show at the polite congre. I can't pronounce that French at the Palace of Congress. I don't know in Montreal Quebec in Canada and March fifth through eighth. Also the North Dakota boat camping in vacation show at the Fargo Dome in Fargo. North Dakota March sixth through the eighth these Central Illinois. Rv Show in Peoria at the Peoria Civic Center in Peoria Illinois and the sixty eighth the Fredericksburg RV show at the Fredericksburg Expo and Conference Center in Fredericksburg Virginia wraps up another episode of the RV. Podcast with Mike and Jennifer win. Lint new episodes are released every Wednesday and the best way to stay connected to subscribe to the podcast. We all the popular contest. Apps and you can also listen the RV lifestyle dot com travel blog. Happy trails fellow travelers. We'll be looking for you down the road all right. That does this week show. Thank you guys. So much Ben We had the air conditioning often the RV's re recorded this. I am really hot. Yes we have to quit talking and turn on the AC so we love you but we're GONNA go kick cool and we're GONNA go off and enjoy key west. We'll see you links to everything you heard about in the show notes episode for this podcast and that is RV lifestyle dot com slash two eighty four happy trails.

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Captain Tony's Saloon

Haunted Places

49:10 min | 1 year ago

Captain Tony's Saloon

"Due to the graphic nature of this haunted place listener discretion is advised. This episode includes depictions of Gore lynchings things violence against minors and brief mention suicide. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen choice. Mother was always taking him to places he didn't want to go. She wouldn't even let him use the boy's bathroom. She said that no four year year old got to use the bathroom. They wanted but she was lying. His Dad let him use the boy's bathroom all the time but dad was still back at the hotel so troy had no choice but to go with his mom to the beach and then to a little bar for refreshments he drank water fast then then began hopping from foot to foot as he tried to get his mom's attention he really needed so she went to check the girl's bathroom first and and then told him he could use it. It was empty. He glared at her. She crossed your arms and waited after a minute try gave up and headed. Today's choice. Mother was wrong. The bathroom wasn't empty. There was a woman in their her legs. Were Tangling in mid air just about this. There were big red marks across her throat. splatters of Brown covered her dress and a trail of red liquid direct down to the floor troy rubbed at us is the woman was still there. She was twitching face turning blue. Her arms stretched out from her body getting longer and longer somehow able to reach him as he backed up towards the wall squeezed his eyes shut hoping she would just go away then he felt your dogs. Her hands were cold as ice and sharp something slid down from the top of at this head to his chin he felt the open air stink against the fresh scratches. Her hands left him and all was quiet. You opened one nine prepared to make a run for it. Suddenly the arms were around him locking him in a savage embrace. He struggled it until he couldn't anymore. Urine hit the tile floor in the bathroom. What silent once again? Welcome to haunted places places. A podcast original. I'm Greg Poulsen every Thursday I'd take it to the scariest Aereas. Most haunted did real places on earth. You can find all episodes of haunted places and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or anywhere you you listen to podcasts. Stream haunted places for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type haunted in the search bar at par cast grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do it. We love let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. And if you join today's episode. The best way to help is to leave a Five-star Review wherever you're listening this week. Join me on a supernatural super-natural journey to Captain Tony Saloon. A mid nineteenth century ice house turned morgue turned bar complete with a hanging tree in the the parlor and discover why to this day. It's haunted. There's no place quite like Key West Florida. And there's no bar quite like Captain Tony's saloon. The building has been said to have many lives since opening its doors in eighteen fifty one from a morgue to aboard Delo to a speakeasy frequented by ernest taming way. Several sets of human remains have been found during renovations to the salon and many patrons reports sightings of a woman in blue moving through the parlor and in the women's bathroom but key West itself has always played host to death in its early history. The island allegedly served as a communal grave site for the Qaluza and Taku tribes of South Florida. The Spanish colonizers is is who invaded key. West in fifteen twenty one called the five point six square Mile Island Cayo or bone ki as open air. Burials were common despite its early European contact key west maintained no permanent settlements until the eighteen twenty s when. US Navy Lieutenant Commander Matthew C Perry claimed the Florida keys as US territory. Spain offered no objections and the American navy proceeded to use the island as that's a base of operations in their war against piracy during that time period at least sixteen pirates executed on the island in eighteen fifty one perhaps for practical purposes a combination. Ice House and city morgue was built next to the town's so-called hanging tree. Aw whatever the reason the land that would eventually become the home of captain. Tony's saloon became the last stopping place for many of key West's settlers regardless of their origins the land behind the more transformed into a makeshift Potter's field acting as a low cost grave for those without family or means of burial and this sort of grave was particularly vulnerable to the elements in eighteen. Sixty five hurricane season wasn't listen kind to key West estimated one hundred five mile per hour winds rack the island and every boat in the harbor was either sunk or thrown inland. The storm showed the settlers. Why the indigenous Floridians hadn't buried their dead on the bone key all it took was rising untied and swirling winds to raise them from the ground? The Sky Screamed in anguish in late October. Eighteen sixty five anita woke in the middle of the night to the pounding of rain and Hail Neil against the tin roof. The flimsy boards of our house shook water leaked in through gaps in the slats. rivulets of water cascaded from the proof onto her forehead. She spent the rest of the night in the bathtub in her dreams. She was drowning surrounded by water with no oh land in sight. Your parents hadn't wanted her deliver loan but if they had their way anita would never have left home at all aside from services with the wound. Gone there voodoo priest. Of course were they moved to Key West. They brought their Haitian traditions with them Anita to believe in the power of Voodoo but still found herself doubting the strength of their traditions would the law. This spirits really follow them to. They're strange new home. She hoped they had she needed them in the storm. When she woke half of her body was submerged the rain had stopped but murky water hit the floor from her site? She pulled pulled yourself out of the TUB slowly and crept out of the bathroom. Something slithered pastor leg. Anita shivered. She he didn't want to know what creature had entered her house with the storm to sharp prongs bit into her foot. She it lifted or foot slowly. Balancing precariously on one leg large splinters jutted out of her skin she pulled the last remnants suffer. Bamboo shutters out of her foot slowly. clenching her josh. She did so. She took a deep breath before continuing on word waiting adding towards her front yard. The streets have been replaced by rivers up debris dark water with fragmented objects floating on Tom. The Sky was a cold gray. She needed to check on her family. She tried to collect yourself for the long walk or perhaps swim whim but then something else bumped against the smaller back. It was solid but soft bloated. Someone was floating in the water. Boy Maybe fifteen years old at first. She thought he might need help but his skin was impossibly cold is is cloudy and open mouthed expression of horror was frozen on his face case. This was not a victim of the storm. The child's death had been far more horrific anita had seen around town when he had been alive. She did not know his name but an unnatural. Death left a soul languishing by its grave while the law. Aw made their decision about what should happen to it. If the soul had been separated from their resting place they were vulnerable to being controlled told by a Boko. For a sorcerer. Anita wasn't just looking at a dead body. She was looking at something that could rise again under the command of someone someone else's soul Zombie. Anita changed her course she could not let the soul taken by someone who wished harm to the world. It needed a resting place. She looped one arm around the corpses torso and started waiting towards the cemetery. The world was eerily still when it should have been bustling the small two story homes stood empty empty on the main street there. Wi- doors left open as the water flowed lazily in and out barrels chairs and fresh fresh bread floated from the entrance to the general store. No souls living or otherwise lingering outside as she came close closer to the cemetery. Realization dawned on her chunks of gravestone floated alongside them. There were no other bodies to be found in the sacred earth. The cemetery had been destroyed and hundreds of souls have been ripped away from their final resting place but she couldn't fred about that yet. Anita needed to bury this boy. I she needed dry land then she would worry about what happened to the others. She alternately walk to end floated for several miles before she found a spot where the water order has dropped away. She wrapped her arms around the bloated corpse carrying it out of the water and toward safety. The ground was still damp around the house but it would have to do. She laid the corpse down carefully before digging into the soil with their fingers. The Moisture Oyster Made the earth pliable. She dug with purpose. Bruce's blossoming longer fingertips. Eventually she dragged the by inside the hull she had created. Anita took one small vial of holy water from her SATCHEL and placed with the body glad of her mother's stubborn adherence errands to their traditions for the first time in a long time but she knew it would not be enough her womb gone live nearby she could get more vials from him enough to surround the body protecting it soul. She raced to his house but he was not home. She fretted about about what to do. But ultimately decided necessity allowed her to take the holy water leaving a promise to pay in full but he returned Anita filter filter bag with as many vials as she could carry and made her way back to the Ice House she walked carefully picking through the mist that had floated over the choked choked marsh. That had been her home. She had the right to be afraid for the souls safety as she approached her makeshift grave. A figure emerged from the gray. Someone was waiting for her. They were more bone than person. There is protruded from their skull pulsing with blood. Even though it looks like the rest of their Baynes had been ripped out they were missing teeth and several fingers one of the bones and their legs had been snapped in half held together only by tenuous ragged sinew. The Limb should not have been upright eight yet. The creature seemed undeterred. Held up by a force more powerful than gravity. Anita clutched her bag tightly. Looking down to the boy's body still in the half finished grave. She did not want to cross paths with Zombie. What she had to prevent the other soul all from turning into this Zombie watched here with its red is? She knelt down to the ground and began to plant vials of holy water in the soil casually. She asked creature what it should be called. There was a smile at its voice as it told her that it had once been called. Old Eleanor now. It had no name no purpose except to serve the whims of its core. Anita media could guess what. Eleanor whims. Were more dead for the Boko. More zombies the dirt started to harden harden on her fingers as she struggled to shove the byles beside the corpse. She pleaded with us on the Bo. Cooper had so many choices at their disposal postal why this one sole think of the balance he could restore appeared mercy and left it free to await the judgment of the Lewa Illinois Illinois sucked his few teeth. He told her she was naive. To think that core wouldn't want more power and a spiritual army to control the island. He reached into the ground and pulled out the vial of holy water. That was supposed to protect the lost. Soul more of Allen. Nord's flesh flesh peeled away but he didn't seem to notice. He threw the bottle towards another chunk of broken gravestone the file shattered into useless. Shards arts the poor souls only defense sinking into the already damp earth. Anita took the opportunity to get closer to the voice as corpse. She dug into the dirt quickly. Small Rocks Rake Triscuit. But she couldn't afford stop. She shoved bottle after bottle. Bowl of holy water the body one vial that another. Eleanor to tact her. She felt rotting flesh and crack nails close over her hair as he dragged her backward she tore it his arms sloughing bits of skin and muscle away. She desperately struggled to free herself. Finally she threw herself to the side. Slipping from his grasp Anita ran to the body. The vials intercessional clinking as she moved she shoved them around the head of the corpse as Zombie stumbled toward her. She was almost halfway done if she could set them. All in place the soul would be save. Those long be reached for her but she was ready for him this time. She narrowly avoided his outstretched hand. He leaned too far teetering and nearly falling as she ran to the other side of the grave. Anita buried another vile sil-. She was so close to being finished. Eleanor backed away watching her work. She didn't have time to wonder why he had stopped. She kept digging into the soil. Fingers bled the earth sucked up the moisture. Still thirsty despite the flood has she laid the last file into place. She felt eleanor behind her. Something cold moved through her body. Bony fingers clutched around turn heart. She realized suddenly that she had placed free bottle and the grave leaving no protection for herself Elinor Lord Cultured Noble as. He pulled her heart out of her body. One soul saved another release a new prize for the core key. West has a significant Bahamian population. This demographic includes both descendants of black slaves and conches white people whose British loyalist ancestors has fled the American revolution but the term eventually grew to refer to any residents of the Florida keys while the spiritual practice of new is most most closely associated with Haiti practitioners of the traditions. Spread throughout the Caribbean including the Bahamas and Key West Medi adherence of Voodoo to believe in the idea of the bow core a sorcerer who uses his ties to the spirits or law to work magic. One of Boko is most most sinister powers was the ability to bind the dead to his will creating a Zombie it fell to the womb. Gone to stand against the Occurs Chorus Evil influence protecting both the living and the dead from his manipulation and control the words. Zombie is is believed to be derived from in Zombie. The Congo word for soul the reanimation of the dead for the purpose of enslavement is distinctly. The idea. Many African scholars believed that. Zombie is an intersection between African religious traditions. And the very real fear hear that enslaved people would be forced to continue their servitude even after death but not all threats to the departed. Were supernatural the nature the hurricane that struck the Florida keys in eighteen sixty five did equal harm to the dead as well as the living in the storm. Many of the bodies awaiting burial on the morgue were swept out to see the corpse that remained was buried near the hanging tree by I unknown Bahamian. People they built a wall around the grave and filled the wall with bottles of Holy Water in order to protect the deceased from anymore more disturbances the blessed wall still stands today in Captain Tony Salone integrated into the pumps new billiards room up next. We explore the events surrounding the key. 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Free on spotify or wherever. You get your podcasts now. Back to the story when you enter. Captain Tony Salou blew the first thing. You notice is a giant tree. Extending up through the enclosed courtyard there are bras hanging from the ceiling next to it in nearly every color and size reflecting the spirit of Captain Tony Himself. A lover of both local history and local women but the jubilant spirit of saloons main rule obscures. The trees dark history. There were at least sixteen confirmed executions pirates grits at the hanging tree but pirates. Were not the only one strangled from its branches in spite of the horrors. Committed at this hanging tree only one one spirit would come back the most active ghost and captain. Tony's saloon is known as the lady in blue. Her real name has been lost at time but her crime is unforgettable and in the eighteen ninety s there was only one way to punish a woman who had done something something so awful. Hank wasn't afraid of dead bodies. The Morgan the Ice House one in the same in Key West. He often came with his mother to purchase ice and it never bothered him. The Room was nice. Chilly and the bodies didn't really look people anymore. Embedded in large chunks of frost their skin was stretched and grey their faces impossible to make out in the meager light. They lay perfectly still on the floor the ice house more like wax dummies than former people. If you poke them they just taught like soft rubber. It wasn't that big of a deal now but he was almost eight his mommy but let him hold the ice pick. Sometimes he'd stab at the ice Always careful not to hit body. He liked the way it felt when the ice broke off the sound of it as it fell into his little middle bucket whenever his mom needed ice. He was the very first person to volunteer. Sometimes when he stood on his tiptoes he could see the corpses vacant vacant is. They were all staring up. Hopefully at their souls final destination as it got closer to the Ice House today though he could tell there was something different going on people. Were still talking about dead bodies but there was an excitement midget the air rather than despair. No one was mourning the new arrival they were milling about chattering together as more and more neighbor showed. Oh DOPP packed so tight that he could only see a few feet in front of him. He peered around through the legs of the crowd looking for the corpse. They must talking about. Hank had never actually seen one being moved. He wanted to see if it was rigid or loose like a rag doll or a statue but he was too small. He weaved through the crowd looking for any signs that something has been dragged through this way. He couldn't see any new slabs of ice people. Were still joining the crowd but they weren't heading towards the Ice House. They were heading towards the tree. The hanging tree hank had heard stories about the hanging tree. His mother always told him to stay away from it. It brought nothing but evil into the world. It didn't look evil to him though. There weren't any twisting branches or gnarled roots. The leaves are all a shiny in green. Almost looked happy when he told his mother. She laughed darkly and said the Kinda smiles hide the ugliest sentence. He could see the braided rope now. His stomach churned. He didn't WanNa Watch evil. Take root here. He wasn't ready for that. His mom was still back at home. Someone waved to him through the crowd. Joseph a friend of his from school hank wandered over to him. Joseph sub grasped at Hank's arm pulling the sleeve. He was happier that Hank had ever seen that made hank nervous. Maybe Joseph's gap toothed smile mile held something darker to Joseph Drag. Tanked with Massi rushed forward. He wanted them to have a good seat for this hank's voice wobble. Has he asked what this even was. Joseph's is widened almost reaching his bangs. He leaned and closer to Hank and told him to listen up. Because this was the kind of story worth remembering the story of Kirti Wheeler Joseph Began Gertie wheeler sat in the Front Pew at Church every Sunday next to her husband Daniel and two kids artists and Dennis. They always looked pretty as a picture in their white linen. People didn't know that much about Kirti. She had shown up a few two years ago and Daniel had married her almost immediately. Everyone thought they were happy but they'd all been horribly wrong. PAPI Harris had been doing morning chores when she heard someone grunting and groaning. She went to offer a hand and found Gertie wheeler with a shovel. There were two buckets of slop on the ground next to her beside three human heads. Little learn is a peaceful but Denison Daniels were frozen in horror. Poppy quickly realized that the SLOB wasn't slop. It was the hacked up. Bits of the family's bodies. It took all her energy to hold backer screams even so gertie eventually noticed poppy. Happy as if waking from days. Poppy took off running with Gertie at her heels. The shovel raised high overhead. Poppy didn't stop until until she made it back home. Her husband Altos took out a shotgun and shot Gertie and the guy when she dropped the shovel they tied her up word. Spread about what Gertie had done to her kids. They were in small pieces now. Couldn't tell Ernest from Dennis or even Daniel at this point all they had to go on the heads. Joseph wiggled is eyebrows. Hang because he finished his story. Joseph said that the tree was going to be used again soon. Girds body would be swinging in the wind. They couldn't misset nothing. Exciting ever happened here. Thanks stomach churned. He looked down at his own medal. Pocket imagining that it was filled with pieces of flesh and guts rather than waiting for ice. He shivered those poor kids. Ernest was almost tanks age. He couldn't imagine his own mother cutting away at his body until there was nothing left but ahead. Joseph slapped the shoulder making hank jump. Joseph reminded his friend. That Gertz hanging would start soon. He wouldn't WanNa miss this. Hank not not swallowing his discomfort. The crowd quieted down around them. Thanking Joseph took their seats on a half wall feet dangling over the edge. Hang cringes neck for look at the killer. He saw the men I there's is a group of them surrounding someone but the figure was so small that it was impossible to see only when they began to drag her towards the swinging news. Did you get a lock. Her hair was wild and greasy sticking out in every direction her dress may have been blue but now how it was covered in splotches dirt grime and something else. She didn't scream like Joseph thought she would instead ed she was smiling the same smiles. She gave people at Church warm harmless but it didn't look the same when there was blood at the edges of her lips. Gertie didn't say a word as the men pulled her to the tree. Hank thank was started to get angry. This woman had killed someone almost his age her own sons. She done that to her own family and left them out for scavengers. Here's like scraps from dinner. And now she didn't cry. She didn't scream she just stood there smiling smiling. The men put the noose around her neck. Hang Baldur's fists. Maybe some people didn't deserve to be hanged here but this woman did she done horrible things when her body was placed on the Ice Block. He wouldn't try to miss the corpse as he got advice. She waved to the crowd. Hank wanted to throw dirt at her. Churning stomach was gone there is something thinks stranger working coursing through his Maine's not discussed not on his. It wasn't until they tighten the noose and started to stringer up that hank realized what the feeling was joy. He laughed as they pulled the rope taunt but she didn't die like she was supposed to instead her feet flail toes desperately straining for support from the ground. Her hands reached up for her throat. She pulled her neck away from the rope. Taking Long. gasps breath Joseph Nudge tank tank. He whispered that sometimes it took as much as three weeks for someone to die if the fault didn't kill them his grandma had seen it once Hank didn't have three weeks to wait. He wanted to happened. The woman started to these fingers turning bright. Read the effort to holding yourself. She lost her grip and fell back into the news. A wrenching choking sound came out of her throat like she wasn't even human anymore. Thanks sat on the edge of his seat Gerdes movements slowed the energy and the crowd was dwindling. Hang couldn't take his eyes off her. He watched every tremor she made every flavor nostrils L. says. She tried to move some air through her crushed windpipe people started to step away. Even Joseph was getting bored kicking rocks walks in the ground rather than watching the woman suffer. Hank state passed his dinner time. The Sun was swallowed by darkness. But he didn't dare air move he needed to see this Gertie. Gabe one desperate pushover energy trying to swing forward. Maybe she was hoping it would break her neck. A wet gurgle cut through the crickets of the quickly approaching night. Her face flushed red then. Blue as the very air refused to help her hank laughed. He kept his eyes on her. As the last of the lamps went out then listened in the darkness for the swing of the rope and the RASP her breath. It would be hours before she expired. He wanted to be there for every second of it. We don't know the name of the so called lady in blue who haunts Captain Tony's saloon. But she's the bars most active ghost by far both patrons patrons and employees have reported seeing Blue Blur moving through the enclosed courtyard and some have even claimed to photograph her but nothing conclusive has emerged. The legend goes that the lady in blue killed her husband and two sons sometime during the late nineteenth at century she chopped them into pieces and left the Gore the yard supposedly to feed the animals. The people of Key West were so disturbed disturbed at the site of the carnage that they marched her straight to the hanging tree. She was hanged in the blood stained blue dress. She'd murdered her our family in but she did not die so easily. It is said that the initial drop of the rope did not break her neck so she he was suffocated by the weight of her own body for two days. Giving a whole new meaning to lady in blue coming up a patron stays past closing time in order to chat up the owner about about a century past closing now back to the story key. West has changed profoundly fondly since the turn of the twentieth century now known for its unique Bohemian atmosphere and LGBTQ and kink friendly festivals. The the Ice House and more became a cigar factory then Bordello and was eventually converted to a saloon call. The Duval Club in the nineteen forties. The Duval Club was the beginning of a long association with Queer Culture for Captain. Tony's Morgan Bird. The owner of the club held parties please to provide the opportunity for male patrons to mingle with sailors from the nearby. US Navy outpost bird was eventually shut down when the navy placed is the bar off limits previously the building it operated as a speakeasy under several owners during prohibition eventually becoming sloppy. Joe's bar in Nineteen thirty-three Ernest. Hemingway Truman Capote and Tennessee. Williams were often seen at sloppy Joe's when they were on the island in one thousand nine hundred thirty eight captain. Tony Tara. Sinoe a bootlegger turned charter boat. Captain purchased the building transforming it into captain. Tony's saloon loon captain. Tony is something of a local legend in Key West. A larger than life figure. He was a gun runner for Cuban mercenaries during the Bay of Pigs invasion Asian and became the subject of local gossip for as many public romances. The current owner of captain. Tony's saloon is comfortable telling tales of the supernatural happenings. His patrons have experienced as well as legends in the saloons history particularly his colorful predecessor. essar yet he still identifies as a skeptic but even he has a story he can't explain Julian working late and late at a bar just ended up being early for the following day. His eyes were exhausted at his head. Baked the numbers. He was trying to reconcile whereas swimming in front of him. It was probably a good idea to turn it. So he packed up the receipts informs time cards and supply orders and prepared to go up the hatch as this regulus like to say his predecessor. The eponymous Captain Tony. Tony had maintained a small residence above the bar in case he one of his girlfriends. Wherever in need of some privacy the small loft was only available abol through a ship style hatch in the ceiling at the back of the bar and since Julian took over the bar it had become a safe place for storing the saloons? More sensitive papers neighbors Jillian closed binder and looked up. He loved the Bar was loud but in the quite hours of the near morning the lack of windows aside from the French doors was distressing. The cavernous base felt empty. Ominously so this. Despite the evidence of Bacchanal the lingerie covered ceiling the dollar bills and business cards covering the ceiling. Beams the fully stocked bar. There was no solace in the silence. He heard a voice behind him calling his name. Jillian cocked OPTUS head. That was strange. It was coming from outside. He figured it might be some reveller saying a quick. Hello before continuing going on with their walk of shame slash triumph but no. It was coming from the back of the bar. The Lot behind find the saloon was fenced but he figured it was worth checking anyway. It was lucky he did. The back door was wide open. Swinging in the breeze as the palm trees lining greenstreet bent and shook there had been no wind the moment before he was sure of that it still. He shook his head telling himself he really needed to start sleeping. More may be finally learning work life Balance Ah. He stepped out into the dark courtyard. The wind seemed to disappear as soon as his foot crossed the threshold but clawlike shadows of the poems. uh-huh arched above him. All still. There was no one out there so he turned back for the building. The wind picked dope again. Julian pulled the door shut and locked. It then turned back towards the bar. Nothing looked out of place but checking the front door seemed like a good idea. The windowed French doors at the front were locked tight. He checked the closets and cabinets. Still Oh fighting paranoia. When he satisfied himself he looked to the last section the bathrooms the men's bathroom was empty and spotless us? The new kid was a real go getter. The women's bathroom was a different story. P tells were everywhere lying on the floor like damp patches of half melted snow annoyed Jillian made sure the stalls were empty then collected everything in a garbage bag. The the hairs on the back of his neck stood up. There was someone behind him which didn't make sense because his back was to the Interior Wall. The bathroom been empty. He was sure of it but he was sure there was someone there to waiting floating in his blind spot is burning into the back of his head. He took a deep breath and turned. There was nothing there. Nothing solid anyway. If you asked him he would have sworn that this was the truth but it is census had told him a blue blur had passed through the wall as he can. He put the papers away took out the trash locked the doors again and headed home trying not to notice that the wind just seemed to be pushing him further and further away from the bar as nothing happened the next night and the eerie memory faded with time. He got more comfortable comfortable in the bar at night and even tease the waitresses when they refused to go in the billiards room by themselves. So what if it used to be a graveyard. They had a hanging tree at the center of the bar. So Julian wasn't particularly unnerved when he heard the voice call him by name again on a very similar night after closing when he was supposed to be entirely alone he did his best to ignore his heart rate as he checked that the doors were locked. Worked then he packed up to go. Don't leave the voice pleaded. No that was ridiculous. He told himself he didn't hear anything. Julian went for the door. The win picked up. Don't leave the voice. Said Julianne shook his head ridiculous. The back door to the fence courtyard blew. Open the locked back door. Julian stomped over to it Yongqing at shot and mocking tight. He turned back to the bar and to the tree but hanging tree tree. There was a woman there. Her address was a pale blue and her face was dark navy almost almost purple swollen distorted. But still she was smiling. Jillian step back involuntarily. The voice still came from behind him. Don't leave ghost in front and ghost behind and Julian felt fighter flight kick in but he was still moving a slowest molasses edging carefully carefully way towards the front door. The blue woman didn't seem to be watching him only smiling vacantly into the distance. He edged faster Mr all the way to the door and out into the street. The hanged woman's horrible face never left his mind for the whole drive home somehow he didn't. It didn't cost a car accident as soon as he got through the door. He threw himself into bed and tried to forget his his cell rang at six. Am is I snapped open wondering suddenly if the voice had been some kind of warning what if there have been some kind of fire at the bar lar- he'd been so tired last night. He stared at the caller. Id it was his bar back. Who often came in early to do the PREP before heading down to the beach for an hour or two before they opened Jillian told himself it was just property sure? It was his livelihood in one of the oldest buildings on the island island but it was just property. No one would be harmed. If Captain Tony's burned down it was ensured not well enough but not in short. He picked up and felt his heartbreak. A girl had been on Green Street last night wandering around at five. Am I am an hour. After he laughed she called her mother from the depths of despair. Fistful of pills in her hand. Her mother had begged her to tell her where she who was a yellow building. She said under a green awning a girl had killed yourself in front of Captain. Tony's last night great. If Chilean had waited Julian didn't wait but now he listens every night. It just in case for voice. Begging pleading don't leave. Don't leave MHM. There are two significant tombstones inside. Captain Tony's the I belong to Reba Sawyer. Her husband dumped her small tombstone on the sidewalk outside the bar. Shortly after her death in nineteen fifty he discovered she'd been meeting up with her married lover at Captain Tony's for years and decided she should stay their permanently. The other belongs to one Elvira Edmonds who passed away into twenty first eighteen twenty two when she was only nineteen years old she is yet another occupant of the Graveyard order turned billiard room extension. Some researchers say that the bars iconic owner Captain Tony Saraceno fabricated all. The stories is behind the various gravestones but the billiards room. The supposed graveyard is known for its sense of unease and many employees at the Barr refused to spend time in their loan. The voice the owner heard on that fateful night appeared to be benevolent or at least east attempted to be but with so many spirits passing through will bat hold true for the next one. Things can get pretty rowdy at captain. Captain Tony's on a Saturday night pay close attention to those drinking beside you. You never know who might drop in or rice. Thanks again for tuning into haunted places. We'll be back on Thursday with a new episode for more information on Captain Tony Salou Salou amongst the many sources we used. We found Leslie Rules Book Coast to Coast Ghosts. True stories of haunting across America extremely helpful to Ktar Research. You can find more episodes of haunted places and all other parkhouse originals for free on spotify spotify. 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Cursed Objects: Robert the Doll

Unexplained Mysteries

42:26 min | 6 months ago

Cursed Objects: Robert the Doll

"Due to the dark nature of the object discussed within this episode, listener discretion is advised especially for those under thirteen. Robert. The doll has been known to curse anyone who pokes holes in his story. Consider Yourself. warned. In June, two, thousand, nine, a man will call Harry posted about his bizarre vacation experience on trip advisor. During his holiday to Key West Florida he and his family were overcome by the heat wave. They found relief in the air conditioned interiors of Fort. East Marcello. Museum. In perusing the museum one particular artifact caught Harry's is. A hundred year old doll named Robert. Hairy pulled out his camera hoping to capture the unique treasure. But a curator quickly stepped in with a warning he should ask Roberts Permission First Harry smirk assuming the curator was kidding he proceeded to take three quick pictures of Robert on his Digital Camera But after Harry noticed something strange. His memory card was wiped all fifty photos from his vacation. We're lost and the bazaar aftermath didn't end there. Harry's family went parasailing the next day and the guy documented the experience on film. They bought a digital copy to relive the memories but when the family tried to upload it to their computer. The files were gone. Harry wondered if the doll actually was to blame. When the family returned to their New Hampshire home things got even crappier. And his children heard strange haunting whispers and his house at night. That's when he logged onto tripadvisor to warn other museum guests, Robert? The. Doll was not to be messed with. Welcome to unexplained mysteries as defy original from podcast I'm your host Molly and I'm your host Richard in life there so much we don't know. But in this show we don't take we don't no for an answer, every Tuesday and Thursday we investigate the greatest mysteries of history and life on earth. You can find episodes of unexplained mysteries and all others spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. In today's one part episode, we're covering Robert the doll a life size figurine dating back to the early twentieth century nearly everyone who's made contact with Robert claims that mayhem misery and terror follow him wherever he goes some saying that Robert has the ability to leave a lingering destructive curse on those who question him. Others say his power is sourced from Voodoo spell? And some suggest a malicious spirit uses Robert to live out its most violent vengeful desires. We have all that and more coming up stay with us? This episode is brought to you by by life plasma services. Your plasma is desperately needed to help treat. Those were most risk right now, and when you donate plasma by life, you can earn up to six hundred dollars in your first month. Become a donor at vile life visit bio life plasma dot com to schedule an appointment. Upon first sight Robert, the doll is unassuming cute. Even his soft plus she body stands about four feet tall and he wears a white and blue sailor suit complete with a matching. Cap Roberts face has small molded lips with a tiny knows in pinprick nostrils his is around black buttons underneath painted eyebrows. The Heron his head looks real sprouting out of the scalp like an unruly toddlers. Some say Roberts Frog is made of mohair yarns spun from the for of Angora goat others believe it's human. Robert the doll was acquired by his original owner. Robert. Eugene. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, four at the time auto was four years old and lived in a sprawling key west home with his parents and three older siblings. There's little dispute Unwin Win Robert joined the auto family, but there are a few different versions as to how. Local Key West residents have heard several rumors about Roberts mysterious arrival. Some say the doll was a gift from one of the families female servants possibly a made any as the tail goes a Haitian nanny of the autos used the family backyard to practice either black magic or Voodoo rituals. Rumor has it. She even performed these ceremonies in front of the auto. Children. One day the matriarch of the household mini Otto wandered into the backyard during one of these rituals. Many was appalled by what she saw the nanny danced around a fire singing in her native tongue she banged rhythmically on a handwriting as she spun erratically. Many interrupted the practice and fired the woman on the spot. A few days. Later, the former employees returned with an apology as well as a gift for her former charge little Robert Otto the gift was a doll. So large, he appeared life-size to the four year old but the present wasn't enough to win back the families trust they let Robert, keep the doll but refused to bring the woman back into their employees. This is just one theory on how Robert The doll joined the auto family. Some claim a more benign tale stating that a relative brought the toy back with them from. Germany. No matter who's giver was the doll and boy were instantly inseparable. Just a few weeks after the doll entered his home Robert informed his parents that his new toy demanded to also be named Robert. was more the doll insisted that the name couldn't be shared. Moving forward, the four year old told his family he wanted to be called by his name Eugene. And the name stuck. For the rest of his life, even when he became a locally renowned painter Robert Eugene auto was known as Eugene or gene. At first jeans parents weren't alarmed by their son's obsession with Robert the doll they entertained it allowing gene to bring Robert everywhere they gave the toy seat at the family dinner table gene even shared his clothes with Robert in fact, the dolls now infamous sailor suit likely came from gene's closet, his parents found all of this endearing but it wasn't long before things took a strange turn. The sounds coming from gene's playroom were disconcerting. Jeans parents heard their sons high pitched youthful voice. But then an unfamiliar voice responded. It sounded unnaturally deep and sinister. The autos couldn't imagine gene making that noise himself not even play. When asked gene told his parents that he was talking to Robert. Overtime Robert appeared to gain sentence jeans, parents, and even a few visitors swore they saw the expression on Robert's face change. He also shifted positions when they weren't looking the oddest felt uneasy but they convince themselves it was all in their heads. So Robert demonstrated his power in an undeniable fashion one night the family awoke to guttural. Screams. Coming from gene's room. His parents rushed in to find genes sitting up in bed shaking. Every piece of furniture in the room had been turned upside down. When the Otto's asked, they're petrified son what had happened Jean pointed to the foot of the bed where Robert the doll stared up at him. Gene replied. Robert David. From then on any mishap in the house, was Roberts fault from broken glass to large messes in loud noises gene always insisted that Robert was to blame. One afternoon, the auto saw another of genes toys on the floor. It was mangled and torn to pieces when the autos reprimanded there son for ruining his belongings. Gene seemed Crestfallen. He had liked the toy. It was Robert who didn't. Eventually. The auto separated their son from Robert. They banished the doll to the attic despite jeans desperate protests. It's not clear why gene loved Robert so much as the youngest it's possible. He felt neglected by his older siblings unable to join their more mature games whereas Robert Never abandoned him. Maybe, Robert provided gene with a sense of superiority only gene got to see Robert Se really was. Even as gene grew into adulthood, he never forgot about his childhood friend. Jean moved to Paris to study painting. Yet, he returned to Key West in one, thousand, nine, hundred, forty, five after his mother's death and inherited his childhood home. One of the first things he did upon his return was head to the attic to recover the doll gene brought Robert back to their old bedroom. He then placed the doll in the window where he could watch the passersby below children revised their routes to school in an effort to avoid the auto house. They swore they saw Robert in a window one second and in a different window the next. No human could move through the House that quickly. Meanwhile gene redeveloped that strange connection with his old pal Robert. He even commissioned a set of custom furniture in Roberts size including a rocking chair and a table. Corey conver- Tito an expert in Roberts History said Jean brought him everywhere. He talked about it in the first person as if he weren't a doll, he was Robert as in he is a life entity. Gene and his wife Annette never had any children. So perhaps Robert Acted as a proxy for gene. But not for a net. She felt unsettled by Robert, and while she never admitted to witnessing any of Roberts's strange activity, she did notice the strange effect the toy had on her husband. Robert became the third wheel in their marriage to nets horror gene seemed to revert to an old childhood habit. She told neighbors that whenever her husband did something cruel or disrespectful he claimed innocence. Instead gene repeated the same boyhood refrain Robert. Did it. Put Up with these strange circumstances for over forty years until nineteen, seventy, four when Jean passed away. The first thing and it did. Was Banished Robert to a trunk in the attic. Later, that year and then sold the auto home to a woman named Myrtle Reuter. But when Myrtle signed on the dotted line, she became the owner of more than just a beautiful old home. She became roberts new caretaker. Coming up Robert Delights in torturing Myrtle. Are casters you know the world can be chaotic and unpredictable but how far would you go to turn the tides of favor in your direction? In the newest spotify original from cast, we're taking a closer look at bad omens, good luck charms and age-old traditions that just might have the power to change our fates. Each episode of superstitions presents a new drama that unpacked a different belief. Can Holding your breath while passing a cemetery save your life will carrying a rabbit's foot bring you luck. How can you go through life always avoiding the number thirteen and why should you try? They may seem mystical unusual completely illogical. But one thing is certain. You ignore them at your own risk. You can find and follow superstitions free on spotify over wherever you get your podcast to hear Moorpark has shows search podcast network in spotify search bar and find a growing slate of thrilling new series to enjoy. This episode of unexplained mysteries brought to you by simply safe. Simply safe was designed to be easy to use. So protecting your whole home twenty, four seven has never been simpler. You can order it online with the click of a button once the box arrives all you have to do is place the sensors, plug it in, and then your home is protected around the clock I really liked that the device is. Attractive and clean looking. It talks to you a soothing voice as you go through the setup which helped me to get it up and running quickly and with their twenty four, seven professional monitoring and emergency response starting at just fifty cents a day. It's no wonder simply safe was named best overall home security of twenty twenty by US News and World Report. Simply safe has definitely put my mind at ease my family home and property will be safe. Head to simplisafe dot com slash unexplained and get a free hd camera that simplisafe dot com slash unexplained to make sure they know that our show sent you. Now back to the story. After purchasing the auto families, Key West. Home in nineteen seventy, four Myrtle Reuter became aware of a haunting presence. She'd heard footsteps and giggling coming from the attic and after tracing into Robert the doll, she decided to bring the toy into the main house. Myrtle hope that this would placate him. She was wrong. Anytime, myrtle or visitor said something negative about the late gene auto myrtle saw roberts facial expression morph into a grimace. Sometimes she found Robert in a room or position, she knew she hadn't placed him in. She feared Robert was moving around the house on his own. Despite Roberts antics, myrtle building uneasy trust with him. They live together for almost twenty years. It's not clear why ertl kept Robert for so long perhaps they cultivated a friendship or maybe myrtle was just too afraid of Robert to risk getting rid of him in which case her fear was well founded. In Nineteen ninety-four myrtle moved out of the auto house to a new residence in Key West. Florida. But Robert didn't like his new home. After a few days in the house Myrtle tried to exit her bedroom. She knew it wasn't locked and yet. The door wouldn't budge. Myrtle knew exactly what or rather who had tracked her. The very next day she donated Robert to the Key West art and historical society who maintain the Fort East Mortello Museum. The members were happy to have robbers. After all he was a rare artifact from turn of the century childhood. Myrtle seemed happy to be rid of the toy who tormented her for years. But something she never really escaped. She died less than a year after abandoning Robert. And while the details of her death are in public, it hasn't stopped people from wondering if Robert was somehow responsible. At. First, the museum curator's didn't realize the danger behind myrtles donation. To them Robert was just another oddity to be cataloged. And he made it his business to prove them wrong. Initially, curator's stored Robert in a back room until he could be rotated into an appropriate exhibit. But Robert didn't tolerate being hidden away. Museum employees couldn't believe their eyes when they saw a white blur flying around outside the storage, room? Apparently Robert was on the move. He's zoomed around a corner out of sight but the curator in charge dismissed her coworkers concerns over the posessed toy. She continued working on Robert's upcoming exhibit long after the museum closed for the night. As she tinkered with the exhibit the curator saw something that made her hair stand on end. She never told anyone exactly what she experienced night, but it sent her running out of the building screaming as if she were on fire. The next morning, her colleagues arrived to find her bike still secured to the rack outside. Robert's curator was apparently so frightened, she ran all the way home. Now, that Robert had asserted dominance over his direct handler he wanted to make sure every person at the museum knew who was in charge. A few weeks later, the closing employees locked up the museum and turned off all the lights. As they walked to their car. They witnessed every bulb in the building turning back on simultaneously. No single person could have turned on his lights. Illuminating every bowl in the place required flipping eight different switches throughout the building. A chill ran down their spines as the employees. All thought the same thing. Robert. Not long after this incident, one of the museum workers made a strange recommendation. He suggested that Robert be shown proper respect with his own display case. They even gave him a small toy, a stuffed dog, Sioux, city, Journal reporter Jill sensible theorized that the dog helped Robert, feel like a real person. Robert had his very own doll to dote upon. This special treatment suspended Roberts Poltergeist Taichung's but not for long. Soon, Robert installed a more sinister practice cursing everyone he laid eyes upon including museum gassed. At first Roberts antics were innocuous for example, visitors reported strange things about the photographs they took Roberts display. Some guests found their cameras drained of battery as soon as they entered his presence but when they left the museum. There cameras regained full function. Others found their pictures of Robert, came out blurry or overexposed despite every other photo having developed. Perfectly. One guest only took a few photos of Robert. But when they developed the images from their key West trip. All twenty four photos were of Robert in varying positions. The guests found Roberts antics. But the museum staff didn't take the stories as lightly. Out of a sense of responsibility for their visitors safety, the implemented a set of precautions to assure Robert felt respected. To this day, every visitor who meets, Robert must follow a specific set of guidelines. I polite introductions are crucial. Every guest must tell Robert Their name and express gratitude or excitement to be in his presence. Any visitors WHO WANNA photo of Robert must also ask his permission I. It's not clear how Robert provides his consent. But if guests senses that the photo is unwanted, they'd be well advised not to take it. Finally. Visitors need to thank Robert for his time before they depart. We know it may seem humorous that any self respecting guide would enforce these rules. But they're in place for a good reason, you may have noticed that although Robert is a doll referring to him throughout the episode as he. This sign of respect is an insurance policy just like the rules at Roberts exhibit there designed to prevent an outburst from Robert. In fact, many have found that define these rules can lead to traumatic disaster. Coming up Roberts curse spreads worldwide. In a world where CATNIP is plentiful and every room has scratching post something spooky is lurking. Premiering October sixteenth temptations productions presents this stuff of capt nightmares. The first ever horror movie for cats scaredy cat the next time you hear those glasses falling off the counter and picture frames sliding off the shelves you may want to think twice is that your cat or something far more sinister, scaredy cats the movie. So hair raising that you're very feline will race under the bed to hide before being lured out by the temptation to keep watching this halloween don't trick them treat them. Great cat magazine gives scaredy cat five pause and cattermole weekly called it the cats meow. scaredy cat will be available on Amazon fire, TV, andro. Pew. So head to YouTube dot com slash tempting brands to watch the trailer now. Now back to the story. Robert the doll relocated to the Fort East Martell. Museum in one thousand nine hundred ninety four. After a series of strange incidents curator's installed a set of guidelines to protect the guests from Roberts curse. But not everyone could be spared. Today hundreds of letters surround Roberts exhibit. They started arriving after he went on display in the mid nineties and they haven't stopped. He receives one, two, three notes each day, but it's not fan mail. It's victim mail there composed in several different languages. Some letters were handwritten others were formerly typed of you even scrawled in crayons by children yet there's one thing they all have in common. Each letter bagged robber to forgive the transgression made in his presence. One rider apologized on behalf of her daughter who stuck her tongue out at Robert during their visit another expressed regret over their disbelief in Roberts powers. Every piece of paper represented a man woman or child desperately seeking release from Roberts curse and the mayhem he brought to their lives. Some letters detail run of the mill inconveniences like misplaced wallets, broken down cars or malfunctioning cameras. Others convey more life altering woes like divorce lost jobs or a horrible injuries. One writer confessed to taking Roberts picture without permission. Afterwards. The perpetrators suffered bankruptcy the sudden death of their pet and they nearly died themselves. In an effort to prove their contrition, some people sent gifts with their written appeals. According to the Museum Staff Robert has received candy money even marijuana in exchange for his forgiveness although Robert cannot imbibe in any of these substances. The curator's never consume anything that's meant for him. They fear that in doing so they'll make Robert angry in fact, Roberts wrath has been known to extend beyond the walls of his museum. In May twenty twenty a facebook user claimed that Roberts curse also apply to any online slights. The twitter Hashtag. Sorry. Robert began trending soon after twitter users who only viewed Roberts pictured tweeted out preemptive apologies after doubting him in contrast, there are actually a few people who have seen Robert as an ally. Some have written to Robert seeking his advice on how to take down their enemies. Others have specific targets for him to hacks. No matter what the intention there's one thing every writer wants to know about Robert. The origin of his powers. One expert was believed to have located the wellspring of evil that fuels Robert the doll, and he found it in the unexpected. David Sloan is a key west local and a paranormal expert in nineteen, ninety six, he followed up on rumors of haunted activity in the old auto. House. Sloan expected to hear stories of ghost or a demon. He was surprised when the homes current. Daryl Meyer suggested they meet a toy Robert. The doll didn't even live at the auto house any longer but it appeared he still had power over the location because as soon as Meyer mentioned the toy to slow on the phone receiver in the kitchen levitated off its base. It's stretched in Sloan's direction until its cord grew taught. Then retracted back toward the base before clattering to the floor despite his years of experience with the Paranormal Sloan was shaken. From that day forward he dedicated hours to uncovering Roberts history. After researching many different toy producers of the Era Sloan track down Roberts original manufacturer. Found that the STEIFF company a German time Acre created dolls very similar to Robert. sloane consulted stikes American archivist Rebecca Kaufman for more information. After looking over detailed photographs of Robert, she agreed Robert was consistent with other staife dolls manufactured before nineteen twelve but Kaufman pointed to something Sloan hadn't considered Roberts large dimensions apparently, most styles were only a foot long. But Robert stood about four feet in height Kaufmann believed Robert wasn't mass-produced but specially made for a window display. In other words he was one of a kind. A. Marketing item like Robert would have been very expensive. This meant whoever bought him from the STEIFF. Company was wealthy enough to purchase an item that wasn't officially for sale. This indicated to Sloan that Robert Likely wasn't a gift from a servant. Sloan wondered if genes German grandfather Dr Joseph Auto could have brought the doll back after a trip to his homeland. But Dr Auto died in eighteen, eighty, five, nine years before Robert was given to gene that leads Sloan to examine European travel records from all of the auto family members. He found the genes mother mini auto return to key west from Hamburg Germany, in September nineteen o four. So. Robert was probably jeans birthday gift from his mother. So. Far, Sloan had discovered Roberts origin story, but he hadn't been covered. Any leads regarding the Dole's powers. And Sloan's discovery discounted the legend that an ex servant intentionally brought a curse toy into the does home sloan kept digging. Until he found something more scandalous than a resentful nanny, he discovered that there were close ties between the autos and a Black Bahamian couple in their employ. William and Emily Abbott. Mr Abbott initially worked in Key West as driver for jeans grandfather Dr Auto. And when the doctors sight failed Mr. Abbott. Became his indispensable caretaker Mr. Abbott remained autos close attendant until the doctor's death in eighteen eighty five. Afterwards, Jean's father Thomas. Hired Mr Abbott to work as a clerk in the auto family pharmacy. Mr Abbott. maintained an intimate relationship with the auto family. In fact, burial records show that both the abbots were laid to rest in the auto family plot. In the Mid Twentieth Century, an interracial burial place was extremely unusual. This personal and permanent sign of commitment shows the closeness between the two families. This made Sloan. Wonder whether their relationship went beyond that of servant and employer Sloan Found Plenty of records documenting William abbots relationship to the auto family but his wife Emily Employment is less clear. However Sloan did find some circumstantial evidence that points to a well kept family secret involving emily lean. There are a few signs that Jean's father Thomas was unfaithful to his wife mini. Mini complained in her journals that other women were jealous of her marriage especially because she didn't come from a wealthy family even more damning was the evidence from her father-in-law Dr Auto who instructed his son on how to protect himself against venereal disease. And his advise did not include abstinence. Dr Otto, appeared to support his sons womanizing. There's further documents to prove that many opted out of the family burial plot. There's no way to know for sure but it seemed like she didn't want to spend eternity alongside her philandering husband given all this Sloan speculated that Emily Abbott might have been one of Thomas. They may have even shared a child. At the time birth records for black women were sparse but sometime, between one, thousand, nine, hundred and nine, hundred, ten, emily had and lost her only child some newspaper accounts of the auto family mentioned in passing a black girl associated with the family. After Thomas died in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventeen, emily lean filed a lawsuit against the auto family. However, the details resolution of the case are sealed. Sloan couldn't ignore. Piece of evidence submitting this theory. Several people who've interacted with Robert the doll claim his possessed by a spiritual entity and all of them described the presence as light skinned black girl. In the nineteen eighties, a psychic named PUCCI Myers spent a significant amount of time in the auto house. She often spotted a girl who looked about five years old crouched at the bottom of the stairs. The girl wore a white nightgown and scowl as if something had just upset her when Sloan uncovered the possibility of Emily and Thomas's illegitimate child, he couldn't help but wonder if their late daughter was the malevolent spirit behind Roberts antics. Sloan also considered a different possibility. PERHAPS EMILY NHS grief over the loss of her child and passive rage towards the auto family led her to enact some sort of Voodoo spell involving Robert. In this case, emily in May have been the nanny who according to legend was fired for executing a voodoo ritual in the Otto's backyard. Well, there's not any hard evidence that emily was familiar with Voodoo this practice wasn't foreign to the history of Bahamian Culture for Bahamians. The practice of communing with the dead and channeling their power can fall under a religious practice called obey. And Obey expert could theoretically get in touch with the spirit and then transfer their energy anywhere in Emily's case. Into A life-size doll. Either the attempt win terribly wrong or emily intended to generate misfortune for everyone who came into contact with Robert. Everyone that is except for Jean. Out of all the people, Robert. Interacted with only gene experienced positive outcome. Perhaps Gene Roberts mutual affection was born out of love between the siblings, the four year old boy and his deceased half sister. When discussing Robert in the Key West Florida weekly Sloan expanded his theory. He told the newspaper, it's possible. Several different entities were concentrated around Robert each of them feeding on the negative emotions and fear visitors brought to the exhibit. That theory was reinforced during a nineteen, Ninety, seven seance in the auto home. Participants gathered in Jeans Childhood Bedroom hoping to summon Robert initially the ceremony seemed like a bust nothing of note, occurred during the entire ritual but afterwards, a few participants tried to go up to the. Attic. At first they found their passage blocked. Some invisible force like a tightly inflated Balloon Stop Them from progressing up the stairs. But after enough people pressed on the threshold, they broke through and opened the hatch to the attic. Beyond that door, they witnessed defend Tasma goral seen. I'm even distorted orbs of light bounced around the dark room passing through the walls and windows to escape. Downstairs, the psychic who led this seance suddenly burst out screaming. There was no sign of Robert Physically, but the psychic swears his spirit passed directly through her. And had left her feeling drained in the days following despite his research into Roberts? History Sloan offers no hard evidence of how real Roberts powers may have been. He assumes that the hundreds of firsthand accounts speak for themselves. But there's another expert on Robert that presents an opposing opinion. Cory conver- Tito is Robert's primary caretaker and a spokesperson at the Fort East Martell Museum. Corey overseas, his physical wellbeing personally removing him from the glass case once a year to monitor his deterioration. She also manages his social media presence and helps catalog all of his letters she even acts as Roberts living proxy occasionally responding to letters on his behalf. Corey tries to send some acknowledgement to every child who rides to Robert. She told Atlas. Obscure we feel like, Robert. Would want to be kind to children. When asked if Robert is haunted or cursed, Corey just shrugs she says I don't know I've never had a bad experience with him I've never felt uncomfortable. Whether there's something to it or not, he just allows me to get on with my job. Corey's level headed evaluation shouldn't be discounted. It seems odd that someone was so much exposure to Robert wouldn't experiences supernatural tendencies. Perhaps. There's a rational explanation for Roberts haunting behavior after all. I it's important to remember that Robert is an exceptionally large doll. His appearance is memorable and a bit off pudding a perfect character for your stereotypical, horror. Story. Then, there's gene. Otto who may have been an eccentric and mischievous child when the didn't like to be punished. So he placed the blame on his best friend Robert the doll. As far as Roberts, changing expressions and positions these were mostly observed around the turn of the century. Electricity at the time was faulty it flickered as much as candlelight. This could have created the illusion that Roberts appearance had changed. Finally. We must consider Roberts victims. It's possible that Robert caused the turmoil in their lives. But. It's more likely that those same misfortunes would have happened whether or not they came in contact with the doll. Sometimes it's just easier to handle bad luck when there's something else to blame. There's only one way to decide if Robert really hold supernatural powers or if he is just a creepy looking doll. And that's to consider the evidence for yourself. Now that listened to Robert Story. He may be aware of your existence keep a close watch on your foreseeable future. And if anything bad happens, you may find yourself reciting the same line as countless victims before you. Robert, did it. Thanks again for tuning in to unexplained mysteries, we will be back Tuesday with a new episode for more information on Robert the doll amongst the many sources we used, we found David Sloan's booked Robert the doll extremely helpful to our research. You can find all episodes of unexplained mysteries and all other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify. See, you next Tuesday and remember never take we don't no for an answer. Unexplained. Mysteries was created by Max Cutler and is a spotify original from podcast executive producers include Max and Ron Cutler sound design by j Cohen with production assistance by Ron Shapiro Carly Madden and Travis Clark. 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The game show where kids cues between the clear and concordant truth. And the rattling cracked soundboard of lies. I'm your host Deborah gold scene. And in the studio is our dynamic sound engineer robots, Lisa, which stands for live in studio audience. I'm very dynamic you are. But today, I'm feeling sluggish. I'm sorry to hear that. What's the matter? I have some slugs stuck in my Ogle port. Off all. How did you get slug duck in your Ogle port? Well, put them there for safe keeping. And now I can't get them out put slugs in your Ogle on purpose. Why did you was thinking of adding them to my compost bin to break down all the vegetation? But then I felt bad about putting them to work and thought they might just make good pets, but they don't do you think you'll be able to carry on with his show and till we can get you to your engineer to remove the slugs I think I can do it. I just wanna manage your expectations. Okay. Well, we'll all appreciate whatever sounds you're able to provide like the sound of a robot telling us how our game marks. Oh, yeah. I can do that. Oh, yeah. I can do that every week re bring onto grownups. One is an expert oil believe this other one. It makes me get my goat. The job of human child to help us figure out who gets better than again. Today that we are lying about the piano musical instrument in which felt covered hammers operated from a keyboard strike metal strings. Lisa, why don't you tell us about today's contestant are human child? Congestion is a sixth grader who loves the color blue and playing the graph and who has doubled jointed. He from grind welcomed at halftime. Fire? You are double jointed where, where would that be what joints are, are doubled? You're looking at it is not pretty. I mean, I don't mean to say that they're not pretty I'm sure it's beautiful the somebody, but then you do anything special with them. Can you scale buildings or nobody can do this? Oh, gosh, another strange and Dr two founding thumb behind the back of our hand. I don't know how that's humanly possible. Oh my gosh. Eyebrow and do a bow. Maybe not that, but we do want to know more things about you if up, but we're going to do it in a pants on fire way. We're going to play to truce and ally. Okay. What are your three facts? So I have an identical twin sister. I've never broken any bone, yours or other people's mind. Okay. And my favorite national holiday is Star Wars day before I get it. It's like may the fourth with you get it. I see what you did there. Okay. So what do you think about this? She's got a twin. Never broken bone or nerd. Okay. She definitely seems like a nerd. So we're gonna say, yes. That's a good thing around here, by the way, I don't think she has a twin because if she did, I would be able to see the twin twins cannot be more than three feet apart from each other. Everyone knows that. Okay. Okay. So that's your guests. That's why not try hotshot. Okay. Eva, which one of those things is ally. I haven't identical twin sister. That's lie. Yeah. Yeah, I have a sister, and we'll be both are twins but we're not identical. Fraternal. Trick? I wanna be clear. I was right. Okay. So she is a twin and she's, but she's just not a certain kind of twins. I'm still right. Yes, I'm gonna win but not the certain kind. Okay, our first expert is to. Showed new pleasing you healthy. Hi, my name is Lou. I'm piano tuner at the menace of music Manhattan. And I'm also the director of the New York school of piano tuning. And our next expert is Susan, Ehrlich. Susan, he's introduce yourself to. AM Susan Ehrlich. And I am a piano teacher here in the city. I also play a for dance classes at Alvin Ailey. What are, you know, about peons actually used to play piano, you did? And then you gave it up. Yeah. Yeah. Up most of the time I just ended up singing. So you are familiar with the piano. Yes. Yes. Okay. Would you say that you are an expert now? I don't know. But maybe you know, enough to tell if somebody's lying, maybe, maybe. I see. Is that found a Johann Sebastian bought? He's lisa. That sound, oh Lisa. And it means it is hot tea time. That is correct. That's when we put our experts on the hot seat while they answer questions Lisa who should put on the hot seat without a doubt blue tar shooting. I love saying toss, you toss who'd. Showed what oh the, the lady goes, I? Goes I Susan. Definitely. Okay, ika. What's your first question for Susan? How many keys are on Pia? No, the current piano has eight keys but the original piano started way way back in the day, and they only had fifty eight so they added to those over time, mainly because composers like Mozart and Beethoven, we're like, we want more keys and Beethoven especially loved going low and Muto loved going high. So that's how they ended up expanded to eight. Just started. They only had one key. His. Correct. Drum. Nice okay, Lou. How does a piano work appear, no works by throwing a hammer up at a string kind of like the opposite of playing Tempe, which is throwing felt mallet down at at the drum. Okay. I don't know what a Tiffany is. Oh, I'm sorry, a drum drama and orchestra. Okay. So you're saying you've to make a panel. You take a hammer and you throw it at a string. Felt hammer. Yeah. Like like while I say, like Tiffany, stick, Lil is the piano, percussion or string instrument. It's both. It's categorized as a struck quarter phone, a quarter phone is like a liar. Like a harp. Oh. And in this case it struck. So it's percussive of season. What does the word piano mean, piano comes from piano forte, which is actually the dynamics of PNO soft and loud. It was piano was created by Bartow LeMay. Oh, christopher. Italian. I probably butchered his name that yet, he created based off of the clavichord means soft and harpsichord into out, and that's the name again, it was originally, piano forte. But they ended up shortening it to piano over time. Yeah. Accurate your forte. I think it did get flipped to forte piano, and some era. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was piano. Forte forte piano, piano. Some people Pedo. Live. Did you have to learn to play the piano to do your job already knew how to play the piano? I've been playing the piano since I was four years old. Does your job involve playing piano, just absolutely, especially when I'm done? And does everybody who tunes pianos know how to play piano, is that a requirement for the job guys that sadly not? But I tell my students if you don't know how to play the piano, piano tuner start taking lessons. Okay. What inspired you do? Your job. Oh, I grew up playing piano. And I was I also grew up in a machine shop. My dad was in aerospace, and so I was very mechanically inclined. So I dad was a machine. So, you know, it's pretty natural for me to take a screwdriver to the thing and starting fixing it at a pretty young age this another one blue. Why string tension important on a piano? Oh, that's a great question. If string tension determines the pitch. That's what a pianist tuner does he changes the tension? And if the tension is adjusted so that the string vibrates four hundred and forty times a second. We call that a and if the tension is made a little higher. It vibrate higher. And we call that a sharp lower. We call it a flat make sense. Now. Well, okay. Think of a rubber band, okay? Thinking of it got one if you pull the rubber band real tight and you plug it you hear. No. But if you relaxed the rubber band, so that you plug it, you hear nothing. It doesn't it, it vibrates like back and forth, and that's it. You don't hear anything that makes sense kind of shoes. No whatever band is have you ever seen a rubber band? Yeah. I put some of my hair. Yeah. If you pull it really hard, does it make a slightly different noise than if it's loose kind of good. So that's the tuning, right? And also depends on how thin the brand. Oh, right. So are all the strings the thinner noise, the Finnur the lower the now higher pitched. The noise is absolutely right. Because tension is not the only thing that affects pitch the length of the string effects pitch. That's why concert grants are night for long because they have long bay strings for the lower note. Good observation season. What inspired you to do? I started playing when I was five love love love. Parents go upright piano, but it didn't have enough reach to become a concert pianist, my hands. So I ended up playing for dance classes, and that sort of thing and a dance teacher from Brooklyn, visiting my town and said, hey, why don't you come and so, so news to New York start playing for dance classes, and I noticed that the kids were watching their sisters would come over and hang out by my Pano, and they would wanna play in. So I started teaching piano on the side. Lou what would be your extreme opportunity for the tell you the truth. Living my dream. Kind of sappy. This question for both of you, Susan though. I tell me a funny story that happened at your job. Well, since I work with little kids, I actually start with having them, not play the piano. I have a piece of paper that has the keys on it. And we color each key in this is so that it's an unconventional ways that they can learn okay? The a is read the B is orange, and we do it based off of the rainbow. And then that way, when they get in front of a piano to start to connect the colors to two keys. And so I have like I said, I usually do the colors of the rainbow and one little girl. She's like this is like a unicorn piano, when it was. I'm like, totally unicorn piano. It was really, really fun. That, that. I don't know. I just I love the imagination of kids forty story that happened to my job. I was once tuning piano in a barn. But is that where you keep Panos raising them? Barn was tuning piano in a barn fly because it was at the tanglewood music festival, which is the summer home of the Boston symphony and they take one hundred twenty five pianos and they put them in Barnes and camps and cottages all over lenox, Massachusetts for the summer festival, and people play them and have concerts in Barnes and practice everywhere. It's like a heightened go seek thing there was this bird, that was dive bombing me. While our. Really upset with the fact that I was there. And well, guess what? The bird did know learn to play concerto. Bird landed on my head. And still wants make a nested if your hair is your hair messy. Was it long flowing? That was what was important. On your head, and then what? And then eventually went away just froze stood there. And we're somebody had a camera, but nobody so we can't take care. That's why they have cameras in peon. Here at jen's e we know that a lot of our show is, are aimed at older kids, so we wanted to let you know about a new show. We did based on the PBS television series. Molly of Denali, we teamed up with PBS kids and WG be h to bring you an Alaskan adventure perfect for younger fans. Subscribe now at apple podcasts or wherever you like to listen. It's time for the short on fire round when our experts have to answer as many questions as they can before time runs out Eefja. Let's start with Lou ask your shorts on fire questions. Now, what does the term to the surface, the piano, strings vibrate? What does it sound board? How old was the old channel you've ever eighteen twelve do pianos, he more or less to get or eventually? They can't be tuned at all. How many strings candidates make full range of two hundred fifty strings on a panel. Do you need to have a perfect pet to be piano? Tuner named three piano manufacturers style Hongkou. What does the barb last pedal? That's the gas pedal, piano, go. It does different things on different channels. There's such thing as the pan. Hooting. Prodigy prodigy. No. Oh, time is up. We're gonna look back at this time and say that was the time when there was no more time that is true one day. We will do that day. We'll be in our old grey hairs, and say that and say those things can you please reset your timer? No problem at all. I really appear we go. It's reset excellent. Epa you ready to do shorts on fire for Susan? Okay. Do your short on fire questions for Susan? Now let's time signature is three four. What does it mean to play, mezzo, piano? I mean to play a little louder than soft medium. Soft pluck your favorite pieces, piano, music. I love Beethoven's. Lisa. What is it? Coda coda me, it's fine. And a piece of news, which means to go either back to the beginning or go back to secure sign within the music. It's like a repeat could begin Pano always saying one less and the head of the student. I wouldn't recommend. Cord in which third is omitted is known as what a fifth. How do you get to Carnegie Hall practice practice practice? Time like that one music piece of fort Lisa. It was a lease. I don't think it was. Thank you, who it was that Mozart who wrote? Yeah. Love that guy. Decision time now are contested EPA must tell us who is the travel maker. Who is the liar, liar pants on fire? Lou. You think Lewis Aligarh, why do you think is our liar because he couldn't really give much specific details. Okay. Have your answer is the correct one. We're about to find out will the actual piano expert. Please let us know who you are. I. That's right. Lou to show is a piano, tutor music, and director of the New York school with piano tuning typical, right. Yeah. They both sounded to me. I thought, okay, it's time to do some fact checking Lou were there facts that Susan shared that put a damper on our game. No. The only fact she got wrong was about the coda, which is an ending tacked on instead of going back to the beginning or the middle. That's a musical error there. Thank you very much. And what about you anything that you said that was less than upright? Eva asked in the beginning. How many as there are two PM, and while I did say they're eighty eight also put a fifth in there and said that some of the original piano, had fifty eight original one. The second thing was actually, again, my teaching method, which is having a child dry out, the piano, while I think that's fun. And I think it might be based on a Christopher guest idea. I never I never learned that way most kids when they're two or three. If there's a piano in the house, they want to plunk those keys. So that's again, just a little unconventional idea that I threw in there is plunk of musical term. I- plunk out notes. Those cues. Excellent. Well on that note, that's all the time that we have. Thank you to our contestant e who is an interrogation virtuoso. Thank you to our expert in liar. Lou and Susan and to our pianist playing sound generating posting. And of course, many things to our listeners tuning into pants on fire where hammer out the truth scale back live production of jen's e Nydia, great shows visit best robot ever dot com. While you're there, you can send questions from Lisa and you could participate also follow us on social media pants on fire cast for behind the scenes photos of mortar stores. In the meantime, keep running songs like that once on that guy. Dovid rose four lease. Go get those plugs out now. Best robot ever dot com.

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Case #50 Carl Tanzler

Far Side Chats

24:25 min | 1 year ago

Case #50 Carl Tanzler

"They just had a lovely SIP. My water me too. I've got a nice glass here. it's the. I like warm. Nice Day today it really. I was working outside before we started doing this out. Freezing inside well you see. I'm basically working outside as it is because of the windows are open. Of course they are and it's wonderful a nice. There's a squirrel in our byrd bath. What there's a squirrel in the Byrd Bath and his jack the Squirrel. Now this is Roxanne Roxanne. Yeah she's a fatty so he knows where all the goods are us. I love it. She thick this is. What happens when you've been in quarantine for too long? You become friends with the squirrels and you make up with them. What Day is for you? I guess technically it's eight. My Gosh I know it's rough. Let's see rough going back. I think for me. This is eleven. Oh this eleven nope twelve. Oh you've been doing a lot longer than me. Yes yes I have. You're handling it much better than I. I'm trying really really hard. I don't think anybody's actually handling it just like living yeah. I think you're probably right sad to say but it's true. Speaking of going mad. I guess we can hop into day story about this nothing about it but I'm excited. I read the little description. Oh you're welcome. I came up with that on the fly. I love it all right. Let's jump in. Let's do it okay. Here'S THE DEAL. I don't know what's in the water in Florida. But they have a ton of crazy stories attached to their name like the time. A woman farted in line at a store and then stabbed a man who complained about it and yeah. That's actually a real thing. Though it's a is it is anyways but I think today we're talking about probably the number one most insane thing that's ever happened in Florida or at least that I've ever heard in my life okay. I'm ready so let's start from the beginning. Carlton's are sometimes count. Karl von Kozel was a German born radiology technologist at the Marine Hospital Service and Key West Florida at the age of forty three while still in Germany. He married a young woman with whom he had two children. They later immigrated to America in the mid nineteen twenties and changed their last name to von coastal in the process. From what I can gather. This guy really wanted to be thought of as like a higher status so he made up some stuff. And I'll tell you that. So listen here Keith. Claimed to be a submarine captain and World War One and accomplished inventor and that he held nine degrees all of these were later thought to be huge embellishments on his part. I honestly just guessed. He needed an ego boost. I don't really know what the heck like those are the craziest ego boosting comments. I've ever heard I know even the last name. Von Coastal is like aristocratic in the German world. I guess like why though who knows anyway fast forward the family is in Zephyr Hills Florida and they weren't there for long when Carl decided. Listen this has been great fam- but I'm really not a FAM- type guy. And then he just abandoned him. Oh my gosh why Zephyr hills by in nineteen twenty seven. He accepted a position as a radiological tack with the US. Marine hospital in Key West. As I said before. His Co workers described him as a kind shy eccentric but apparently he just needed true. Loved break out of his Shell because on April Twenty second of Nineteen Thirty Twenty Year Old Cuban Immigrant Maria Elena Milagro de was admitted to the regular basis ward. Oh my goodness what am I to start a love story. I mean Romeo and Juliet right there. So Carl Man Carl. He believed this was a meeting of two souls. His twin flame his one in a million but to obstacle stood in the way of their love. My friends I Elena a beauty with raven black hair in which she often wore arose was utterly unaware of the doctors infatuation 's and second she was unfortunately dying of two regular basis but these are all small potatoes right like no big deal. No big deal. We can jump over. The turtles unable to bear the thought of losing the love of his life. Carl dedicated every waking moment to finding a miracle cure ignoring hospital procedure. He administered homemade tonics and medicines to Elena and even made house calls at the Royal Family Home Attempting to cure her with electrical equipment of his own. Devising does his best efforts Elena succumbed to the illness on October. Twenty Fifth Nineteen thirty one at the age of twenty one. That's really sad. Yeah such a short life but listen Karl. He was devastated. Obviously and he paid for the remains to be placed in this huge stone mausoleum at the key. West cemetery and without fail the doctor visited Alana's gravesite every day for two years. Her family saw his grief as that of a dedicated physician destroyed by his inability to save her. But can we just say I would still have thought that was weird Yeah I was just thinking like. He didn't even know her. He didn't know her like she didn't know he was bat in love with her. No is her family's like yeah. This seems normal to have this guy show up every day for two years. Yeah right totally just like a standard day. That sounds weird but listen. Karl didn't just simply lay flowers at the tube doorstep and Weep Nana no no. He had a key in fact the only key and would enter undercover of darkness to spend time with the corpse of his beloved. Okay no like I thought it was weird for you said that and now it's like whole nother dimension. Type Weird. Listen it's about to get much rarer know about the Greek out no so two years like I said two years after Alana's death Carl's nightly visits to the mausoleum abruptly stopped. The holiest family found this odd considering his apparent dedication to the memory of their daughter but they were also happy he was finally moving on. He was seen in town buying women's clothing jewelry and perfume at the local shops. His neighbors from reported seeing two shadowy figures. Dancing in the doctor's foyer. It seemed that Carl had a new honey in his life. Okay but looks can be deceiving. We all know this. Oh Yeah but before we get all excited that car all got that proverbial right swipe in October of Nineteen Forty Elena sister decided to pay Carl visit and discovered the identity of the doctors mysterious Levin dressed the corpse of her long dead sister. No no it's not yes. No as it was and like any sane person. My girl ran out of there and she alerted authorities. Who then found out that Mr Carl had stolen Alana's body from the cemetery and had been living with it for seven years. Liz Kara okay. I don't even know like what the feasibility of this is. How is her corpse? Still like thing like how is it still together at this point? And I'm about to get all that I literally can't function now. This episode is over. That's horrible I know. Just wait. Oh I don't know if I can take any more surprises. I'll get to the logistics here shortly but okay laid on me. I guess let's back up a little bit okay. Okay in Nineteen thirty three. The doctor had removed lane corpse from the mausoleum and transported it via a toy wagon to a makeshift laboratory. He had built inside an old airplane. Liz I mean I can't do anything but laugh at this point. It just sounds fake. It's all real. That's that's what know. Oh my gosh there are people like this in the world right now I know. And here's the thing that I feel like. We've never talked about on this but we probably should for the most part when we're laughing especially in things that are as terrible as this. It's mostly out of nervousness Ono Clinton. We're not trying to be in consideration the wearing diety s reactions to things. I'm glad you said that. Just want people to be aware so anyways back to this makeshift Dexter Laboratory. Right my car. Yes there. He resurrected his loss. Love with the help of paper. Mcshea and morticians wax and rags. Gosh I feel like I might be sick. I know you've been placed. Glass is in her empty sockets an end the wires into her limbs so that he could easily manipulate her posture. In y'all if you WANNA know this next part skip ahead ten seconds. Because even when I saw it I was like. Oh God but upon closer inspection. Investigators found a carefully placed cardboard tube in a lane as genital region. The use of which is best to not think about moving on moving on far away from that so as the years went by Carl's postmortem bride continued to decay. But the doctor. Smart man he is devised an array of methods to subvert this natural process for example he doused Elaine's body oils and disinfectants to mask the smell of rotting flesh in replaced her. Now Bear Scalp with human hair like he fashioned a wig. Basically this this is maybe I story I've ever heard Oud so by the time Elena sister actually arrived for that fateful visit. The corpse looked nothing. More than a life-size paper mcshea and or wax doll. Okay sled answers my question. Yeah so earlier Liz. I just need you to take a minute to look at this picture. Oh Kara to find that. It's all over the Internet real. Oh this is the APP. This is how they found her. Oh my God. She looks rang. I know is. She doesn't look real like her ear. Lobe is basically missing so attached to her face which is just it. Looks like I mean it's like not even describable how terrible this face looks. I mean it just looks horrifying. That's all I can say I mean. Yeah and that WIG IT. Yeah it doesn't it. Looks like Karl literally just sat a to pay on top of this corpse. Yeah he done her dirt out one. Yeah this is not good. This is not good. Yeah so photos of what she looked like before. Yes and you can find all of those at our website. Www DOT farside chats dot com. Okay well like I need to see what she looked before. Oh my gosh girl. This is sickening. Oh Okay so. She was gorgeous. Yeah it looks nothing like the corpse bride not exactly. Oh My Gosh. It just got worse. Okay yeah I know. I'm ready to hear the rest of this horrifyingly stomach-turning story so Elena sister went on to tell police. People new cat was out of the bag. That Carl was a Weirdo. Okay yeah way out the bag way out of the bag. So then. Carl appeared in court on October. Ninth Nineteen Forty four quote wantonly and maliciously destroying a grave and removing a body without authorization in quote but the charges were eventually dismissed because and get this the statute of limitations had expired. Shut your mouth right now. What that does not have a statue of limitations. I'm sorry he still had the body. That's like yeah exactly case closed the gavel down Puno annoying. Let's so annoyed. Rate why people get away with it statute of limitations where Florida Oh anyways. So while he was being questioned during the hearing Karl revealed his plans to finish the airship. That would you remember the airship laboratory? Yes dexterous laboratory definitely so apparently. This airship was supposed to transport. Elena's body high into the stratosphere so that radiation from outer space could penetrate Elena tissues and restore life to her somnolent form. Okay but like What I know. Where did he get this idea? You know I genuinely couldn't find where he got this idea but somewhere along his researching this miracle cure bring her back to life. You know for death He he just got onto this radiation thing and he thought like if she could go out into outer space there would be radiation and it would just make her alive again. Oh my God I mean this is like proof number one point that he's insane and if nothing else told you that he was not right in the head. This puts the icing on the cake. I shoot my question is so okay. Say this plan works out. He gets her out to outer space. Was He on the airplane on the AIRSHIP housing getting back? These are the real questions. What does he is? He is on the airship. What's easing food housing breathing? And like is this airship intended to be made for space like? Was it a down with like it was just an airplane. Yeah it is just an airplane. In fact there's a picture of it on our website so okay so that was not wealth on out now. Well thought out. I mean if you're GONNA have a stupid plan like that at least thinking it through I mean really like is this airship like a boomerang will come right back. I don't understand question though questions Carl I feel like no one asked no one asked but they should have also like. I'm wondering where we're his colleagues like did they know put on this see. How did he act to them? I generally don't know because I've I've pretty sure he was still working on all the time. Like I don't know I. It never said anything about his co workers not noticing any difference in him. They weren't like you'll Carl. You seem like so much happier. Have you met someone like Yo Carl? You smell like a dead body also as well. But I guess he had all his oils. Even that wouldn't have covered it up thou ch- I wouldn't think so I like I know what a dead body smells like but still I was going to say the exact same thing in the shot. I really don't know so I've heard it's pretty pungent Mrs Though. I Dunno okay. Here's where it Kinda gets strange again again again. But like not from him okay. So obviously the case turned into a media circus and weirdly. The general public was like very sympathetic towards him. Oh my gosh. Yes so instead of acting like he was a depraved NECROPHILIAC which he was him yeah. They saw him as like a lonely sad romantic story. Worrying about the freaking town he was in. Yeah I'm mostly worrying about all of Florida at this point. Yeah this isn't right so I've found this quo- quote I think the most fascinating reaction to this. Strangest of the strange story was the overwhelming public support for count von Coastal so. This is a quote from Ben Harrison. Who was the author of undying love? Which is a book about Karl Molina's quote unquote last story which was adapted into a musical. Oh My Gosh. No it wasn't. This is awful it just it really does get worse blake. There's no good to this No none I see no justice at the end of life well except for this next part. Okay writ sort of kind of justice so after the frenzy of the court case Elaine Corpse was transported back to key West cemetery but not before was not before. Carl asked that it be returned to him. What yeah the request was thankfully denied and her remains were hidden in an eighteen inch casket buried in a secret spot to keep anyone from disturbing them again. Gosh poor girl. I know she finally got some sort of peace corps sort of. Yeah but then Carl later constructed. A LIFE-SIZE EFFIGY AROUND. Alana's death mask and lived with it until he died on July third nineteen fifty. Two people don't know into stop Mariah right exactly. I don't have any words for that. Same I don't know it's all I can tell you well. That was a story that I was not prepared for. I know and I think we can all take something very valuable away from this in which I think we should just not drink the water in Florida. I one hundred percent agree with that. No question. Yeah because it's not like he was fine in Germany and then he moved to Florida. That's when he hallway. When was he making all that stuff about himself? He didn't really start making it up till he got to Florida. Okay so definitely it was. Yeah that's true people. Do do a Weirdo. I mean we. They all knew like banished from Germany. About one rat with this is like a doll's house. All as-as lack nate in that movie. So we're pretty sure that MEATLOAF had it right when he said I would do anything for love. But I won't do that. We're pretty sure this is what he was talking about. As always if you need more information check out our website for pictures and our resources at Farside chats dot com if you WANNA keep up with us during the corona teen follow us on facebook and Instagram at fireside chats. Don't forget if you have a story you want us to cover. Let us know. We are not mind readers although that'd be super cool. Mls At farside chats at gmail.com or direct messages on the social platforms remember. It's a jungle out there. People always remember to make good choices and be aware of your surroundings. We'll catch you again when we're back from the far side Carl Tam's Ler sometimes count. Carl von Was a German born radiology Terminologies with the I'm GonNa make it through in nineteen twenty seven. He accepted a position as a radio. Fagor and even made housecall cool. He doused Lena's body in oils and disinfectants to mask the spill. So always remember to make choices on my God make choices Duh episode complete.

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The Sublime Lime Episode

FoodStuff

34:56 min | 2 years ago

The Sublime Lime Episode

"Today's episode of saver is brought to you by smart water twenty years ago. Smart water, reimagined, what water could be from thoughtful bottle design to adding electrolytes for taste to supporting smart people who are changing our world through fresh thinking. Like you owe. Unlike you any I do of water one of my favorite things is getting some nice cold water after after I run in the morning and smart water because I love the taste. And I love the bottle today. Convenient bottles, sit is and today. Smart water is reimagining water again with new smart water alkaline with nine plus ph and smart water antioxidant with added selenium both with the same great taste as the original smart water is vapor distilled with added electrolytes to taste, great and great tasting water helps you meet your goals. Whether you've got some new ones in two thousand nineteen or are just aiming to look and feel your best every day. Refresh yourself with smart water. Hello and welcome to favor a production of iheartradio and stuff media. I'm and I'm loin vocal bomb and today, we're talking about limes. Yes. Lines, which I'm really excited about I love. I love lie. I love a line. Yeah. I live alone. We're not talking about living today, but my old pin name I had a pin. Name was lemon lemon squeezy. But then I decided that was too tacky. So I changed a poem tickets, which is clearly way classy, clearly clearly professor Plum in clue is like, oh, pretty Seabra, classy or Bain, even her Bain. Indeed. And one of the first things I thought about when we were always like listen include some fun banter at the top. It's so fun. I know it is lime wire that's Annie's music empire was built on. Oh, yeah. Back in the day. When you had all of the mix CDs for anyone who doesn't know. This was the file sharing service. Yeah. That I would say largely got used for illegally sharing music. Yes. Much like all of the file sharing services circa that time. Yup. Pretty much. I don't know if it's still around anymore. I don't think so I have absolutely no idea. I have a friend of a friend who met her husband on lime. That's so suite, isn't it? Heck, yeah. I don't have any stories about line wire early. But, but my roommate does have a lime tree which apparently she has she has grown much to the chagrin of one of my friends from from a farming family from Florida She grown it incorrectly. And it's now just a permanently dwarfed little shrub size tree. But that's actually very convenient for you know, her and also, you know, me because we have to move it inside and outside every winter and summer. Yeah. It'd be much harder to do with like a big full-sized tree. Yeah. As it stands. It's it's not lightweight. But it is heck and delightful like about once every two years, we get I don't know like twenty to forty lines like a whole bunch of lions while the flowers. I I mean, especially for small tree and the flowers smell beautiful. And and oh, it's just it's really nice sounds lovely has thorns limes have thorns say do indeed. This is something that I would have been surprised by had. I not already tricked myself on a lime tree. That makes sense. I was surprised to learn that. But this brings us to question. Oh, yeah. Limes? What are they? Well, limes are a whole mess of species within the genus citrus though, they do have jarver's in. Versus. Immediately. Delighted by that. I loved that. All right. We'll keep it. Sure, they have jarver's genetics things called limes tend to be smallish roundish fruits that consist of a greenish outer skin sometimes yellow when ripe dotted all over with sacks of highly fragrant oils and inside of that there's a thin white layer of spongy pith which protects sections of delicate little pale green, juice sex and the fruits seeds all inside of that. Yeah. The juice of limes tends to be acid tart and bright and a little bit better. And the oils in the skin tend to be floral and bright and bitter. These fruits grow on trees that can range in size shape and climate preference. But generally aligns are tropical subtropical frost will at best hurt the crop. And at worst permanently damaged the tree. They do grow year round. But there's usually one or two primary fruiting seasons. And yeah, lots of them lots of moments just thorny as heck. The leaves of some lime varieties are also used in some cuisines. They tend. To be dark green and shiny on top and pale and Matt underneath they've got a sort of gentler vibe in flavor than lime zest, but a similar floral bidder. Bright profile and the word lime seems to come from a Persian word for the fruit Lyman, which then filtered through Rebac and either Portuguese and or Spanish to English sometime around the sixteenth thirties. Nutrition wise, lime Esten juice pack. A lot of flavor for a local Orrick load. They contain a little less sugar and a little less citric acid than lemons do and they're pretty high in vitamin c the juice of one line has about a third of your daily recommended value. Wow. See? Yeah. Vitamin C being useful because it's an antioxidant, which means that under certain conditions. It can help your body prevent certain diseases like cardiovascular disease, the cold and flu even some types of cancer. It also helps your body absorb iron. Yeah. I I said that I was just remembering I read that somewhere. And I'm glad that that. True. It's always nice to know that something you read is true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that your brain hasn't just made up fact, exactly exactly. And you can see our Margarita episode for more about Lyme, burn also known as Margarita dermatitis. Yes. This is the thing where limes and other citrus is are so sick that if you have the juice on your skin, and then you're out in the sun you can get a sunburn. Yeah. Like a chemical burn from. Yeah. It's not good. Don't wear where sunscreen stay in the shade wash your hands. Never go outside and fire is coming out. This is good always wait to be invited. And that's just polite. We know what you're up to. I I'm not saying I'm just saying this is all good advice. True. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, is gonna vampire in some kind of sleeper agent on our team interesting. All right, but numbers. Actually, not super easy to come by. But as of two thousand twelve twelve percent of lines come from Mexico, and that is followed by India Argentina, Brazil and Iran, there are so many types types Persian limes are the most commercially grown sometimes called to Houston limes. There's also Mexican limes often called key limes, which I learned is an American retro Nim, and I just like the word retro. It's pretty good. Yeah. A Mexican or key lime are smaller and more tart than Persian limes. There's also finger lime sometimes called lime caviar sweet lines and Mandarin. Limes? Blowed lines lime quotes. Mix of come quotes and lines. It's great. If you guys have never seen finger limes or caviar lines, go look a picture these things it's wild like they the juice sacs are kind of like a little bit more willy nilly inside the the rind of the fruit. And so when you cut into one it looks like I don't know like like you pulled away, and it looks like a salmon Roe new Geary. Oh. How interesting nature anyway, there is one variety of lime whose name you probably still see on store shelves in the west, but that you should endeavor to learn a different name for and the name that I'm looking to avoid saying here is K A F F, I R and I'm looking to avoid saying it because it's also a terrible racial slur used to demean black people in South Africa. The etymology of the name for the lime and the slur seemed to be separate. But that doesn't mean it's okay to go tossing the word around because it's hate speech in certain parts of the world. Yeah. But I it is one of the top three commercially grown lines in the world and its leaves and Ryan are important elements in many southeast. Asian cuisines calling them Tyler lines or McRae. Limes is preferred. And Americans on average eat three bounds of limes a year who I would imagine a lot of that goes into cocktail plano. I don't know since nineteen eighty American line consumption has increased by ten times, and that's mostly as we've been exposed to more dishes from around the world that utilize lime more than we do slash. Did cracked lime is used in all kinds of things drinks like the Margarita or lie made desserts. Like key lime pie. It's used in tacos. And shut news lime pickles or integral in south Indian cuisine. In Vietnamese dishes, like fuck in Thai food dried lime in Persia and Iraqi food part of the marinade for severe J, the juice mixed with salt is sometimes called an old sour and the twigs are used as chewing sticks in parts of Africa. The leaves can be used dried and soups and stews like in Curry's. That's one of the flavor profiles and type hurries for share or fresh in cooking salads. Or as garnish you can look for frozen. Mcgirt leaves at your local Asian cursory. Lime juice is an important ingredient in jam and salad dressing industries because of its citric acid, and it can be used in a variety of non-food ways like lightning hair, which as an actress I've been advised to do usually more with lemon, but what either way and cleaning coffee pots, kind of an old wives tale a stumbled upon. Yeah. Yeah. All kinds of cleaning products are made with made with lime lime juice and zest stuff. Like that. And went on such a big Margarita kick a couple years ago. I bought like a specialized live choose. Yes. Yes. Yeah. L five. They're harder to like juice than limits. They are they're a little bit. They tend to be a little bit stiffer, especially these days as be we have perhaps lower quality lines coming into the United States. But but yeah, yeah. Do good roll it on the table. Oh before juice it. That'll help them kinda squish all the bits inside squish. Yeah. You squish before the big. Yeah. You can also microwave Alime for just like like under thirty seconds like like ten to twenty seconds. I would say just enough to kind of excite them. All just just to yell yelich loose, again, loosen everything up prese quick Margarita gave is about to get even better. Thank you Laurin anytime. Right. But this about brings us to our history portion. But I I it brings us to a quick break for word from our sponsor. This episode of saver is brought to you by smart water. I drink a lot of water. I have witnessed you do it. Yes. There are a few things. I love more in life than some cool water after a workout and I love smart water, not only for the taste, but for the uniquely designed to bottle because it's so great to grab when you're on the go twenty years ago. Smart water, reimagined, what water could be from the inside out today. They're continuing to find smart ways forward in everything they do from thoughtful bottle designed to supporting smart people who are changing our world. Refresh thinking like you smart water has added electrolytes for taste and great tasting water helps you meet your goals. Whether you've got some new ones in two thousand nineteen or just aiming to look and feel your best every day. Refresh yourself with smart water. And we're back. Thank you sponsor. Yes. Thank you. So citrus trees, as we sorta know them have been around for about eight million years, which we know because researchers found a fossilized citrus leaf that's about that old in what's now, south western China. Yeah. Records of citrus cultivation in general, go back some four thousand years, but it's likely the varieties that we know today took thousands of years of a hybridization both natural and human produced rates the first wild. I'm probably originated in the Indonesian archipelago, perhaps on the Asian mainland records show that they were first commercially grown in Babylonia modern day, Iraq. And these were what we today. Call patos. A group of limi- citrus species that includes the affirmation Macroom lime. The fruit of many potatoes is to sour or better to really want to mess with. But they tend to be hardy. And their skin leaves again can be an excellent ingredient in cooking Arabian traders spread limes along. With other citrus that they encountered in India to the eastern Mediterranean and Africa's sometime around one thousand CE and to Spain even earlier as early as four hundred CE when the crusaders returned to the western Mediterranean in the twelfth and thirteenth century. They brought with them. They were being cultivated in Italy. And also probably France in the thirteen hundreds sometime. Amidst all of this spread and cultivation molecular geneticists today think that Patos were crossed with species of Citron's, which is another one of the original primary types of citrus to give rise to many species of limes that we know today. The original primary types of citrus being Hobo. Yes. Pepitas Citron Mandarin and pa- mellow. That's your trivia fact of the episode. Owed. It is you're going to really impress somebody with that one. Keep that one close to you folks, you impress us for sure am I kidding. I'd be like oh who. And I'm glad you included this because I got really confused in this episode. Researching this lime have so many different paths. And because there's different types of limes. History of lime is like. Plot. It is it is. And I think that we could probably do a full episode on any of the specific varieties of line that exists today. I I love it. When we just go like, yes, you're let's just do rice. Oh, I don't even want to think about that episode ever again. Oh that that other way of measuring time before physics. That was great. Oh, right. Heck, no, I I would happily talk about rice again. But the that was yeah. That we were foolish to to undertake that well came through on the other side, we did as we hopefully sell do today. I like it. We're on our coast. We're not sure we're going to make it to the end. I think we can. Yeah. So Christopher Columbus. That guy brought citrus seeds on his fourteen ninety three journey to the West Indies probably including lime seeds not too long. After the trees could be found there along with and Mexico, and in Florida, and they were common in Haiti by fifteen twenty as we've mentioned in a couple of our cocktail hour episodes lime juice was frequently used in beverages by the British navy to prevent scurvy. That's where the term limi- comes from this at I was eight closely monitored military secret. Oh, yeah. And was the idea of Sir, James Lind. Although people have been doing it before then they just weren't entirely. Sure about it. He even if you didn't have the science. Exactly, right. He was pretty sure like he was like, yeah. No, this will work let us implement this. As a plan. I think he did one of the first controlled random trials to get to the bottom of this. And yeah, so Lind was a Scottish naval officer, and he realized that scurvy had killed more people than skirmishes, for example of the almost two thousand soldiers on a four year circumnavigation of the globe ending in seventeen forty four only one hundred and forty five survived. Four have been killed by enemies and scurvy killed the rest. Oh my goodness. A huge deal. That was just as my rabbit hole of the episode. I researched so much about scurvy. The rain was still Finn. But you can see our gin and tonic episode for the potentially anti malarial properties of quietening in tonic and the dishes of lime Jen to make the medicine go down this one of my favorite histories, and a cocktail hour said we've ever done that was a really good one was the surgeon general of the East India company recommended lime juice as far back as sixteen fourteen by the eighteen fifties, sailors grog, which was a mixture of Rome water and lime juice was part of sailors rations and this helped the British defeat Napoleon. So yeah. Big deal. Kind of a big deal. Kind of a big deal. Persian lunch from Brazil arrived to Australia in eighteen twenty four and in California via Tahiti sometime between eighteen fifty and eighteen eighty hence the term Thiessen lime exactly since the Persian line was hardier than the key lime with it's thinner skin. And that made that key lime less suitable for transport. Cultivators and Florida's switched out. Most key limes to Persian limes small-scale commercial cultivation of lines and orange and lake counties in Florida began in eighteen eighty three and after a nineteen o six hurricane and pollution of the soil due to pineapples firms in the Florida Keys replace their crop with limes. They would then be pickled in salt water and sent to Boston and sold as a snack kids in particular liked them. And they were even mentioned and Little Women. Which I love a hurricane in nineteen twenty six wiped out this small industry, though. I say like a -firmative Lee as though it's a fun. Fact. It's not really I mean, that's just a fact it is. But a a lot of hurricanes due to the tropical and subtropical climate of limes a lot of hurricanes have impacted a lot of lime industries around the world over over time. Yeah. And it's I would say one of the main reasons that the US gets most of our lives from Mexico, and we'll go into that little bit more detail in a minute. Yeah. Absolutely. The early nineteen hundreds is when the key lime took off in key west, which at the time was the southernmost American city. I love those. Okay, so milk tanks. Didn't they couldn't make their way down there? So before the opening of the overseas highway, nineteen thirty hints milked tanks now get down there shifts used canned condensed milk soured with live. Oh, well, however after that nineteen twenty six hurricane wiped out most of the crop of key limes, they were replaced with Persian limes. Meaning most key lime. We see on menus instead refer. For two Persian lives. Most of the time not all the time occasionally there, Israel, keel. I'm involved. But generally speaking, probably not from what I read though, it might be less uncommon now to actually have real time. Yeah. I know that I've seen them in grocery stores more often. Yeah. And there's there's a couple of places in Key West Florida where it's just known that. That's real key lime. You getting. Raymond Sokolov wrote about his search for key lines in nineteen Eighty-one, quote, the poorest Caribbean confined real lives in his local marketplace. But America, we can only by Tahiti limes and our glistening supermarkets, even or perhaps, especially in the keys the conspiracy to hard. This botanical masquerade has succeeded almost completely in perpetuating the myth of a regional dish. I'll heck no. There seemed to be to agreed upon rules for good key lime pie in key west one, no green food coloring and to know Jillette. I would agree. Yeah. Uh-huh. Have you ever made a key lime pie? No. That's squeezing a lot of tiny tiny. I I it's very intensive. It's a little it's a little tedious. Yeah. I do have a friend who doesn't cook. Essentially at all. But he does make a key lime pie. And it's terrific, Matt. If you're listening shout out to your key lime pie is always excellent. I love those friends that have the one thing they'll make especially love it when it's something complicated. Weird. I'm like, all right. How did this output? So great. It's delicious though. Well, this did give me I don't normally Kripke lie. I do all the time just desserts or some of my favorites. Yes. I have a list of anytime. Someone tells me their favorite dessert. I write it down here on my list is that was a citrus lover. Just in case I want to make somebody a desert be able to consult the lists. And know what their favorite things are. Anyway, that's just something about me. After World War One. The Persian lime had solidified its place as a commercial product in the United States despite initial consumer resistance at the so-called green lemon Canadians resisted at first to preferring. The more flavorful key lime. George d Fleming junior. Proprietor of key lime associates was looking to make what he called a vacation cottage colony of lines in nineteen fifty three the next year. As the Florida Keys were developing, the upper Florida Keys chamber of commerce was founded in part to spread the word about this line that they were afraid might die out otherwise in nineteen fifty nine with the help of the upper Keith Kowalski club. They launched an educational campaign encouraging residents to plant the lime and have lime nurseries. And then to go on to sell the tree CHAI kind of door since nineteen sixty the crew to be an island of Dominica has made a business out of selling the juice from Mexican limes. Most of which goes to the UK for settling and wooden bats followed by a clarifying process. It's bottled as Rose's lime juice in England a product of L rose and co LTD any surplus is sold to software. Producers nowadays L rose and co LTD gets most of their lime juice from Ghana. I have never heard of this product. But it's sounds like it's very popular. Oh, it's it's pretty I'm nearly positive. You've seen a bottle of it. It's frequently sold I think next to a bottle of of Grenadine like there's one that's quite green in one. That's quite red. And and the am I think if the right thing and the and the wrapper is kind of like red and white floral and like old timey. I just kept picturing a like a period bottle. But as Rosie the Riveter on front, and I'm not sure why that's what I picture. That's definitely not the definitely. Does that even exist? If not it should it's just because the name is rose. I'm very simple person in some way. Well, yes, it's shelf stable, and I I wouldn't say that it necessarily tastes like lime juice. But it it has a lime flavor to it for sure that's a lime flavor to it tends to be sweetened. Oh, okay. Yeah. And since it's, you know, pasteurized still shelf stable, it's not not as punchy. Oh, okay. Reminds me of another old wives tale that drinking sprite on a if you had an upset stomach would like would like magically she'll she'll your stomach out. I know my mom used to give me ginger ale. Ginger ginger does have a little bit of a stomach property. But I don't think the ginger L particularly helps I liked it. I was a fan getting too. All right. All right, stepping back a bit to nine hundred fifty four Libby McNeill and Libby switched over a hundred acres of previously dedicated to great for of land previously dedicated to grapefruit over to Persian and to Houston live that was in Florida. Yeah. Yes. Production increased sixty percent in the seventies. And the industry was valued at nine million dollars in nineteen seventy nine and Florida was the big dog in terms of line production in the United States to this day, Florida produces about ninety percent of America's lime crop as more immigrants from Latin America came to the US and brought with them more dishes. That utilize lime the citrus grew in popularity and demand went up then in nineteen Ninety-two Florida's line production took a massive blow with Hurricane Andrew. I was living at that time in south Florida and Andrew was supposed to hit my town of Coral Springs, but it veered and hit much closer to homestead the seat of the south Florida lime industry. Yes. And while this industry did mostly recover by nineteen ninety nine. In the meantime, Mexico had filled that lime void a disease decimated Florida limes in two thousand so that's only year later. Yeah. Seven years later, the industry was once again, virtually nonexistent. Thanks to this disease. Not wanting to plant new citrus trees, only for them to get reinfected they pivoted to other crops like avocado as of two thousand fourteen there were just four hundred acres of limes being grown in Florida time magazine compared that with forty-one thousand acres of lemons out in California. If you've noticed the price of lines going up that is part of why another part a couple years ago. Bad weather crime and disease plagued the lime crop in Mexico where the US gets most of our lives most of being a walking ninety seven percent and that drove up the price of limes for exam. Simple. A forty pound box of lines went up from twenty dollars to a hundred and twenty dollars a. Yeah. And that organized criminal activity part is is a really huge factor in that as of about twenty eleven the crime cartel last couple of euro, Templar ios in English that would be the the knights Templar. They were facing increasing difficulties in the drug trade. So they began extorting lime farmers and exporters in Mexico. Really violently. It's it's a bloody and an ongoing story, though, the the violence and industry impact perhaps peaked around two thousand fourteen the cartel has since switched sites to avocados more recently. And that is a whole other story. That is terrifying. That I would love to go into some day. It's it's it's very fascinating. Yeah. And I when we were deciding on this episode, I I have to say one of the first things I think about when I think about lines and avocado. So is this. I like I couldn't I didn't remember the details. But I knew at one time like the price of lines had gone way up. And there was this fear of like little we're going to do about limes because of the things we said, but I remembered the crime in Mexico, so yeah should. Yeah. I would love to have a whole depressing episode on that sometime. I'm sure we shall. Avocados been on our list for a long time cover. It has been. Yeah. I I would organized crime around avocados globally is really a thing. Yeah. Yup. Well, well on that note that about rounds up our lime episode it does we do have a little bit more for you. But first we've got one more quick break for word from our sponsor. Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete play since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice. Why some nights he even slept in his hockey skates? Pete practiced and practiced until one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how Geico proud partner of the NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out. And we're back. Thank you sponsor. Yes. Thank you. And we're back with Louis. I know sometimes I just randomly wear shirts that are like. Kind of freaks me out. And today, I wore a sprite based. Oh, I never wear the shirt. And then we did this episode. And it's got like a a lime on the back. Yeah. It was just in something. I'm. Grain in the back of your. Yeah. Anyway, that listener mail was inspired by the the like effervescence. Okay. That's brighton. Well, I gave up soft drinks in what to. Two. So a minute ago do those and five I gave them up. So yes. A long time. My goodness. A dare because I am easily manipulated from rockstar. A soft drink, right? It's only and I will allow it if it's mixed without call. Okay. Which today is we record? This is national gin and tonic. Oh, it is. I think so I got an Email about it. They knew they were like who needs to hear about it. Yep. So Katie wrote, just if we're I and the pretzel episode when you said, Pennsylvania consumed, the most pretzels, I thought you said pretzel Vania and do not tell me you didn't we should have a missed opportunity. Oh pretzel. Yes. I I mean, I think they should rename the state. I that is absolutely a t shirt. I have an Email about t shirts to write to our T shirt. Humans. This vary after noon, and I am principal Pennsylvania. This is happening y'all is it going to have some kind of vampire theme. We've got to think about. Vampire, pretzels. Oh boy. They could be little like the bats with. Okay. Goodness. Anyway, we both just went to. Strange, but similar place any. Okay. All right. I'm Ron wrote. I just finished listening to your New Orleans series. And I really enjoyed it. I'm heading there in June for a large family reunion and love knowing what I'm getting into my mom grew up there in a family of ten kids. So reunion should have well over one hundred. Ooh, whole goodness. Got such a small family. Okay. I've only been there three times in my life. As I've lived in California the last time twenty years ago and the first time I was there for mardi gras. My aunt took me to some of the parades. And I would have never guessed. I would have the time of my life being out in the cold catching worthless trinkets. And yes, some of my young cousins had the box on the ladder to watch the parade. This time I'll be going out for some nice meals. My cousin works for the Brennan family. So it should be more fun than I'm used to lately at the reunion. We'll be eating publiz crawfish boils and Gumbo. I've included my aunt Ruth Gumbo. Recipe. We love recipes. Yes. Thank you. Oh, goodness. I I love this. And I I love the the catching of. Worthless trinkets because a somebody who's really really competitive and I didn't like candy like the beads at parades. Are your jam? I would fight like I would fight for candy that I knew I was just going to give away later the thrill of getting it. Like having more than everyone else. Yeah. I'm getting excited just thinking about it like was afraid I can go to not getting trouble for taking stuff away from kids. In general in Atlanta. I think you're not allowed to to toss things off of. Yeah. And they have to hand it to you as I found out one day. When I rather tips lead joined the Halloween parade in little five points. I was there. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I quickly was set. Right. I think only only one small child was vaguely emotionally upset by the experience. I still feel bad about it. I genuinely upset that. I might have upset that little girl created an enemy that day. She's plotting your demise them say tiny Princess fairy. Yes. She's real remorse. I can see it don't build whatever's super collider finger doing destroyer I would. I would print greatly prefer it. I'll come into candy gently anytime you want. We do have a lot of free candy here at the office. We do. It is sometimes it's the full size bars. And I feel like real baller. I know I look around as if this can't be true. Thanks to both of them for writing. If you would like to write to us at you can Email us Hello at saver pod dot com. We're also on social media, you can find us on Twitter Instagram and Facebook at saver pod. We do hope to hear from you safer is production of I heart radio and stuff media for more podcasts from iheartradio. Visit the iheartradio app apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Thank you as always tour super producers, Andrew Howard and Dylan Fagin. Thank you for listening. 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Revisiting the Archive: Episode 4: Shirley Willer

Making Gay History

20:49 min | 1 year ago

Revisiting the Archive: Episode 4: Shirley Willer

"I'm Eric Marcus. And this is making a history book. I'm recording this fourth episode in our revisiting the Archive Series on Thursday April eighth four weeks to the day since my partner Barney and I started sheltering in place and just a few days since the corona virus likely claimed the life of a forty year old next door neighbour from what. I've been reading. The wave of infections here in New York City seems to be cresting just as the threat mounts in other parts of the country in an almost daily ritual. Now talk with my brother after he gets off his shift at the hospital where he works about five hours south of New York City. He's an emergency room administrator night before last we had a long anguish. Conversation about how he and his co workers aren't getting the proper gear. They need to protect themselves getting sick. The doctors and nurses are thankfully well supplied but my brother and his administrator colleagues aren't considered frontline workers even though they're close contact with patients arriving in the emergency room. One of my brothers colleagues was just diagnosed in is recovering at home. My brother is understandably scared and angry and I'm scared for him. An angry to it shouldn't be like this so what to do with that anger as I talked with my brother. Surely Willard came to mind. Shirley was a nurse who saw firsthand. What happens when people we care about die? Because of incompetence and inequality I interviewed Shirley back in nineteen thousand nine because of a role in the early home afoul movement where she served as national president of the daughters of beliefs in Organization for lesbians founded in one thousand nine hundred fifty five. But that's not the part of surely life that's on my mind. Now I'm thinking farther back to Shirley's life in one thousand nine hundred forty s Chicago and how anger inspired her to make change and force people to do the right thing or at least try. So here's the scene. It was a warm humid fall day when I arrived on the doorstep of Shirley's one-storey House in a working class neighborhood of Key West Florida. A young woman in cutoff shorts and a tank. Top answer the door and led me to a sunroom at the back of the house were surely was seated in a large wheelchair. Her hair was mostly gray and cutting a flattop style. She appeared at me from behind thick coke bottle glasses giving you the once over the way she looked and the way she looked at me was a little intimidating. She said her lit cigarette in an ashtray that was piled high with a pyramid of Butts budgies flitted in their cages on her porch and chirp like a half dozen smoke alarms being tested but when surely reached out to shake my hand remember shaking hands. Her warm smile set me at ease. I impact my equipment. Click the microphone to a Blouse and sat down in a chair opposite her. I pressed record know this little guys are GonNa be taking over the Mike you don't want to. I know and I discovered I was. They will use orders nowadays sending in a classroom listening to election mental hygiene. What was the lecture? How what did you say you liked describing don't lesbian and was like I said Gee I'm one of those things. What was her description how you were not attracted to men how these crushes on women. We're nineteen forty one. Would you have read about such things or heard about such things? Well I noticed company. Who around because after I when I found out I went home and told him that mother and she was able to get a copy of the book then I started looking up words in the dictionary and encyclopedia. And what did you find? Not Very pleasant. Descriptions pervert was a version of the natural instincts. Human-animal and at that time was considered criminal. Thanked I remember being picked up by the front of my shirt back and forth by a policeman because I was on the streets at eleven o'clock in a head on slacks women's slacks and sports shirt policemen policemen. I was walking down the street trying to find a gay bar that I'd heard of women on and women's slacks but obviously made us Taylor as possible trailer clothing. Means what Brooks present. Now that I'm not talking about a man I'm talking about a woman's I had massive muscles here Made rebuild the top here. They costs fortune. I think cost me all one hundred twenty dollars to have tailored the policemen say anything that would he was hitting you too and he called me. Names Dan Pervert you acquire Uso me and so forth and you couldn't call the police. Could you didn't call. The police was a policeman but in fact I finally did find the bar and I'm not sure but what might still be. There was a seven seas where this the first bar you went to. So you got you got slapped around the first time you're on your way salmon and we're doing bar stupid question here. Was that frightening and was frightened. I was angry. Why were you had no right to do that to me? And that's been my attitude on. I might have done right you. How did you find the bars? How did you know about this all started out as most people do thinking I was the only one then? I realized there had to be more out. There wouldn't be any kind of books and it wouldn't be any definition but of course I didn't know how to war ended always Cormon came back. These nurses Miller came back in the navy and the army and then of course when they were working in the hospital we met each other and most of them were pretty flaming Queens. When you say these guys were flaming. Can you describe for me? What what that means. They will call it being extremely swish. The mannerisms were very limp-wristed. Even at work they would emphasize terminent characteristics. Thank goodness city. Hospital was simply didn't seem to pay much attention to it. They did the right to do the job right. That's all that matters at that time. Big Events in Chicago with the Halloween balls era gun Huge ballrooms one on the north side. When southside every Halloween all bars were off and everybody went in cost and all of us would get Tuxedos and over all the women and dressing are bushiest silos and we all go to balls The air gun was on the north side of Chan. Southside these particular big events where again run by the Mafia and We'd hired them scenes. You see and get a police escort through the crowds in order to get inside and one year gay people one year that people could be gay and it was the only visible sign that they're literally were thousands and thousands of gay people in the city. Where was the first time you went to this? And the nineteen forties was short short. We have to gotTA service because I remember. They dressed me how address you enter. Tuxedo and tied my and put makeup on me. I never worn makeup in my life wore dresses. When did you become aware that there was any kind of organized? There wasn't much unorganized organized movement The Oni organized group that I could find out about was one which was more literary and this is already by nineteen fifty early nineteen fifties and ten so what happened during the during the nineteen four. Then it was pretty much on our own volition that we would so many young women that were being thrown out of their homes so we started our own little informal groups and we take in all the kids. I take it out in the street and we would he pushing them to stop trying to hide it. be themselves. I believe that you should stand up becomes dangerous for most people. It's always dangerous for anyone who doesn't have any money in the bank. We weren't many of them endangered. Losing their jobs depend on the job. They would take no majority of wouldn't take jobs where they were endangered. They would go for the Dirty jobs rough jobs running elevator. I remember one in particular very bright girl but the only governor she could get was running an elevator because she wouldn't wear threats so are we didn't call ourselves any particular group. How did you come in? Contact with Pearl Heart. Heart was an attorney and try talking to some of the men. We is where we first heard her. There was this group of about six of us since women and we wanted to form some kind of an organization so we went to see her and we asked her you know. How do you go about doing such a thing she said you don't you don't Pearl at that? Time was like everyone else. She felt that people would get farther by simply doing things quietly without announcing themselves without having large formal meetings and so forth grand only. We're sheet Elizabeth again. I never slept with it so I can't swear to it right. But she also wore brooks by the suits except that hers were tweety indicators and it was a very sad time to be alive. Why is that what well? For example we had one young man was studying. Medicine was working as a nurse. You worked the eleven to seven shift overnight till seven in the morning and then at nine o'clock he would have his first class and so he would go home and each hour and a friend of his would pick him up and they go to class together on. You fell asleep while in with waiting one day and when by the time this friend got their couch Totally in flames shooting smokey and he was very badly burnt. They took him to a conflict. Hospital run by Brotherhood you did not receive good care because because he was queer now. I couldn't go and see him because women weren't allowed to go into the hospital whatsoever but the men did but they were thinking changing dressings and even then we knew enough to use salt water. Dressings anything else. You put dressings on keeping saturated order. Keeping wet in wasn't even doing that than just one guy and seepage was coming through and so we moved heaven and earth to try and get transferred out of there to Veterans Hospital and we gotta the day before he died furious in fact that's been large presented by lifing angry burning. His name was Barney shocks me. I didn't didn't occur to me that that Such a thing happened before AIDS I s the hatred of the game as existed as long as wing insisted But NOT TO CARE FOR SOMEBODY. Who's sick didn't go against every everything you've ever talk all people those who pretended to be religious anymore. Tape one side to this upsets. You still always well. How many years ago is this forty seven more than forty years ago? Why is it what? What is it about that experience? That was that wasn't is still so upsetting they. I think anybody who call themselves in America? Who believes in any kind of religion too deliberately allows someone to die or force them in a position where they're going to die unforgivable so they kilbirnie killed by game. He was another one of those they did. A brother sister relative he was close relative. You're somebody who practice young man I would say was about twenty four a baby. But you'll be yeah. I think this probably had a great deal to do with Magris I had done it very private way. Prior to that time you know trying to set something up where we could have a an ongoing group that would meet have meetings and tried to accomplish something. I had no specific goals in mind. But after Barney's death I think many of us became much more aggressive. We had to stand up and be counted. We had to make an impression some. Why couldn't let go one? That had to stop from turning point of Barnes death in nineteen forty seven fast forward to the nineteen sixties by then Shirley will is work with the daughters of believes was taking her on the road from Boston to Texas. A dozen places in between she was a lesbian. Johnny appleseed starting new chapters of GOP and a few chapters of the Mattachine society another Homa file organization wherever she went Shirley Willer died from heart failure on December thirty first. Nineteen Ninety one. She was sixty-nine Shirley found a way to channel her anger. One of the challenges on finding now is what to do with mine over the gross incompetence of the people who should be instead of blaming the systemic racism and economic inequalities. That are fueling the deaths of the most vulnerable among us and the bald-faced lies. That got us to this terrible moment in the first place for the past three weeks. I've been publishing a hyper local neighborhood newsletter. And I'm working on this podcast but I'm often left feeling like I'm doing my part not making enough of a difference. During this crisis I think we can all feel pretty small in the face of a global pandemic. That's leading to so much suffering. But then I get an email like the one I got yesterday from Cayden. Here's part of what he said to all. Who read this? I cannot think Eric Marcus in the team who create this podcast enough for allowing me to hope as we all navigate a world with new boundaries and requirements. I'm a young gay college student and I am presently living at home with my parents. My Mom who is unwilling to accept my identity and my dad taking a sharper turn towards hard religion. My Dad in the last week is told me he would be content with me. Never speaking to him again. My mom encourages me to at least try hooking up with women have told me my identity is invalid despite every fiber of my being knowing. They're wrong. Thank you for your podcast as it allows me twenty minute escapes each day. Every episode gives me hope that I can overcome my own struggles and make a positive impact on my community at present and in the future. I smile I cry. I laugh each episode grounding me to a world that has otherwise left me untethered. Thanks cayden fear email and your support of words which encourage all of us at making a history of keep doing what we're doing and to keep trying to make connections through history and across great distances in this time of physical isolation. You're not alone and your note helped us feel less alone and thank you to our listeners. Who have recently made donations to support making a history so we can continue sharing these stories with people like Cayden and our many thousands of other listeners around the world. I know that many people are struggling financially. So I'm especially grateful to donors like Louis Poulain who seventy and came out. Just five years ago Louis. I admire both you and Kane for your courage and perseverance and world that to this day can be a hostile one for people like us. Many thanks to all my colleagues produces podcast special. Thanks to Sour Birmingham. Our founding editor and producer for producing this episode and England Attaya Making Gay Histories Deputy Director for handling all the post production work to get her episodes out to you so long. Stay safe until next time.

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Key West (Part Two)

The Complete Guide to Everything

1:06:40 hr | 1 year ago

Key West (Part Two)

"This is a head gum. Podcast previously on the complete guide to everything so last week. I went to key west Tele really. Yeah talk about it. Sure he's at all you got. No I have more to more to say. Oh hello and welcome to the complete guide to everything a podcast about everything I'm one of your host. Tom And I'm ten Tim. How're you doing this week? I how you're doing last week. Let's hear hey you're doing this week. Well I asked you. I guess I asked you every weekend. Doing yeah well this week different Tim. How're you doing feeling very brave? Wise that 'cause I went to the doctor? Oh Yeah and you know what during a pandemic? Yeah I mean. That's that wasn't briefed. My doctor was is a new doctor. I have a new doctor interest change careers last week. He was a lawyer now. Last week he was like Professional Naysayer seems like mad pandemic. Ebc. She did not WanNa hear it really. Yeah so I don't know I just sciences out. Yeah I choose to believe him right. Well that's the easiest thing to believe that everything's fine. When's the last time you had a shot? I don't know but I think vaccine right. Yeah I think somewhat recently because I remember being asked that in during the last few years and being like Oh tell me how long they last and I'll tell you if I need another one or not. And how long does it last ten years and I was like oh I don't think so. Good bad if you give me another one. That's that's what I asked. And they were like no but when was it as a? I don't know it was at at like at least seven years ago. Probably you'll be fine so they gave me tell them. How many rusty fences you climb though that was disclosed earlier in. That's why you were there. Multiple injuries from climbing a rusty fence as part of the five percent of what But guess what every ten here. So now they're just like now you know. Yeah it's going to be easy. Twenty twenty twenty thirty. Oh yeah there you go but that'll be the last hell there's going to be anything after even twenty thirty is being a little optimistic but I got blood drawn and I never used to be a guy that was like skinny flood. Never used to be a guy that let somebody take his blood. No I used to give blood all the time and then leaving at people that didn't want it. Yeah when generous man They're take a bag of blood sometimes. Not even in the bag. Sometimes it's a pint glass. That's good easy. Everything in their poor in if you need some and they today I'm just GonNa. I'm just GonNa not be skittish about this. You've always been skittish. No I I used to not be okay and then I feel like once I hit I think my late twenties. I realized that I wasn't immortal. Like larger than most people do thought so one day. Somebody's GonNa take enough blood that I di- exactly and today like I just had to trust the physicians assistant and be like. Lek if she I'm going to trust her to take only what she needs right. And no not even going to live as much as you need right okay. So you did say to her. I just asked once in in in. Follow up okay. Did you ask wall. She was taking the blood no oh shit reminded her now. I was paralyzed with fear while she. I was afraid that my arm would move slightly in the needle would break off into my which I was realizing. Today they put that thing in like two millimeters. It's not GonNa do anything one time. I was Giving blood and they like didn't Tape it online or something I kept falling and twisting the needle in my on and this was like a blood donation not like drawing blood so that those are the big needles on that heard a lot when a needle gets turned inside your man. Yeah it was giving blood one time and The person administering it with telling somebody else about her divorce proceedings that were happening and she put the needle in the wrong and I was just like excuse me. She's like it's GonNa hurt a little bit. It's it's a needle and she'll get out in for the whole bone marrow for a week. My arm was all black and blue all the way up so it happened with this to like. Yeah you're you get black and blue real easy if beetles are in your face wrong. I guess it makes sense. Let's hear recently about. They got something where they can. Put a needle in your muscle and make it better. I don't know what shock it maybe give it a little shock. What are you what like if you got like sore muscles. Oh Yeah I don't know I don't know we're GONNA have to ask at the hospital. I work at see if they can tell me more about it. Yeah Yeah so very brave at the doctor. They delisting now. They've always done this but they're like we're GONNA need your urine. Sir and I was like I beg your marketing now. But they they're like you need to fill up this test tube and this test to maybe not test yeah. Jeez that's like oh just a little tubes and they they gave you a cup and a large eyedropper thing. Oh I don't like I was in the bathroom stall and it was like a mad scientist. Yeah and it was. It was a public S- restroom. Turn your your during goal. I had to leave the doctor's office Go into the bathroom in a hallway. Yeah this is like some building in office but there are other offices like an office park type thing. Yeah and I an office building. I think they're called. We'll check on that windiest others one stall in here. Stalin a urinal and head to like there was no like table or anything said to like pee into this cup and then like get out the tubes. Get out the eyedropper and you know it took a few moves. It wasn't just like suck it up and put it in there right Yeah that wasn't enough yet to multiple times and I had to do it for two of them. It was a whole big mess and the a whole big mess little bit you know. Hopefully they're wiping things down more frequently. Sure does you didn't it? Sounds like how are you this week? I'm good the last time I to urinate and a cup parole officer. No I did have to do that. when I tried to get a job at Coca Cola. That's why were they. The The lady was like I'm supposed to watch you urinate. Yeah and make sure you don't like switch it out or purview. Wants me to watch you know it was like an independent. This wasn't a Coca Cola. Play watching the Is that like a God forbid you besmirched the reputation of the company. I like their drinks. I like their union policies. Why I've talked a long time ago. I think about how dangerous places where literally I was waiting in the Office for the interview and they had a sign up. That said this many days without accidents and it's at zero which meant the other hadn't been a day without an aisin and literally as I'm looking at that sign a Guy Russia's down the hallway is like one of those fire no one is one of those offices were like they have windows looking into the hallway like George Castanza's in when he worked for the Yankees. Okay Yeah Yeah So. I see three people rushing down the hallway. It's two people helping another person who has blood gushing out of their mouth knows something like a lot of blood though what happened to I. Don't know but like literally the person interviewing you just close the blinds or that saying anything no literally right after that. The Guy Interviewing me walks by and walks in. And he's like hello. I'm I'm John Nice meet you. He has a an eye patch like a permanent. I patch like he had lost his is somehow. It could've been anywhere but presumably this very dangerous Coca Cola plan and it seemed like accident happened at constantly and then they sent me down the Road to pee in a cup and the lady was like. I'M SUPPOSED TO WATCH YOU PEE I. I don't WanNa do that. Do you want me to do this like no. I'd prefer non. She's like all right. Don't do any. Don't be a jerk. Don't swap out the urine and they like turn off the sink from the outside. I don't completely understand why that is. I was like do they. Do some people. Just FILL UP. The Cup of water throws your is. This is the cleanest urine ever seen. Yeah I'm not entirely sure but I was GONNA say Lot of floor. Don't get me started on the floor and in the wind That's why I never got a jet. That's why I was rejected for a job at blockbuster video because the floor in the water no I always tested positive for Florida. Had a kiosk where you Italian apply for a job right most high-level jobs hiring and they're like would you submit to a drug test. That's like Tommy Reynolds. Had TO WATCH SOME LADY ONE WEEKS OF LADY WATCHING. P No drug test for me. And they're like thank you. You're not hired and I was like Ash. That's what a drug I would say and so it was onto it into like. I'll go to the blockbuster in West islip if they have a different policy and and they're like will you take a drug test. I was like yes and then they're like. Oh you're already in our system you know you're you're not hired that's thing yeah You could have been. You could have saved that company. Maybe I feel people it's probably just missed Algebra But I really enjoyed walking around blockbuster. Like movie no. I watched a youtube video where these guys went to the last blockbuster. It's not in Alaska. A lot of people think that. But it's not idiots right Washington state or Oregon. Something like that But they went to the last one and They had like all new movies and everything and they were talking about. How they miss that like going to blockbuster and be like all right. We can rent one. Maybe two movies. Let's take everything into account And Yeah now. We're on the opposite end with the Netflix and Hulu and all that. But that's like you scroll endlessly and then you put something on and within three minutes. You're like Anna like this. You're not going to give anything shots same with the streaming music. Yeah well the new record and you're like this isn't immediately amazing right and that's why people are making music to that. You have to hook the people within the first five seconds yeah Early Nineteen Ninety eight. I paid nineteen dollars for this. I'm going to listen to this album at least one hundred times. Try even if it sucks and eventually I will like it hurt it enough but I was gonna say the last time I had to do a urine test at a doctor. I'm like I always p before I get to the doctor's office and he's got a little tank well. This was the first time that I remembered like day dummy. Don't pee before you get there because they're going to ask you to pee in a cup so I didn't and then I too much appea- and now it's like. Oh no I got like stop. I gotTa Stop Bullying. Were you in the bathroom? Yeah Yeah you should probably do. Continue doing your container to put. I don't WanNa deal like switch quick enough. I didn't trust myself to stop for like a second. Get the Cup out of the way and do the rest in the toilet and then like also didn't feel comfortable bringing a cup in that was filled to the brim of with P. I think that probably would have might have said something like Oh. We didn't need this much. That's what you're getting did she go. Oh Wow really impressed. No I wish she did. I had a feeling she wasn't going to be like that all right Tim Last week we talked about a little bit of my vacation. The first vacation. I've Haddon probably a decade at least didn't realize that. Yeah like I've every other trip I've been on as either been like a long weekend. That hasn't been very far more. Is that some kind of a work element to yeah yes. I've travelled a lot. I've taken a lot of days off to go to the UK with you right which is not a vacation. It's not one for me either. Yeah it's Nice for the first day or two but it's not a vacation. Yeah and we've done shows and other cities were it's like. Oh we get to see a little the city. This is nice but it's not a vacation. It's not a let me put on my Tommy Bahama shorts and a nice Panama Jack Hat and and lay back and enjoy myself. But this was one of those times Can you tell me what a refresh my end the listeners? Memories about What I what I went over last week. You just didn't know preparation for this. I have a ton of notes by forget. Did I only talk about the only talked about the ghost tours? Al And that you went on a glass bottom boat because bottom boats make the rock and roll world go round and I got seasick little seasick on that. Dan mentioned that. Yeah you did okay. And he made it seem. You had this whole explanation about how you got seasick your brain's not simplistic the ocean floor or something. I don't know now that my head was down so I wasn't like looking at the horizon so for like a longtime that's what makes you seasick that your eyes are looking at. It's like everything's fine but your brains like now man. It's not fine. We're moving around a lot. Do you know why we throw up like when we get motion sickness or like too drunk is because the body thinks we've been poisoned really because basically like your eyes are giving different information your inner ear. See your is. We're not moving in her areas. Like like hell. We're not moving. I feel it. We're moving and it goes. We've been poisoned again. Get rid of everything. And that's why we puke I kind of miss the days when you could poison people really easy. You can't no no. They always find out. Wait you when were the days? When you medieval times spool easing each weren't around. Then I thought you meant buster and then come home and poison my enemies. Now it's like a million times people just yell you'd look at some fame back in a poison that guy the perfect crime because no it was the perfect crime nobody could. They didn't know about science or anything they'd open up somebody in Bagwell now they got all guts. What poison would would you use? I don't know some hemlock yeah you only know that because Who is it socrates? Plato killed himself with it. Turns OUT. I don't know that Tim let me continue on. My Star. Studded vacation wasn't star so stars. Where there well I did go to judy. Blume's bookstore that she owns which she with us. Yeah she works at the bookstore. Four days a week really. Yeah and he went one of the days that she wasn't there she was going to be there later. That night they said She's eighty years old. Maybe even older now she was eighty. I think a few years ago. Did you go in there and say you hear Judy Blume? It's me Tom. That's Me God. No and actually A friend of the show. Andrew Gregory told me that When he and his wife went there they she was there and like multiple people. Were like. Judy you have to take a break like you've been working all day There's like a nice thing right to retire and be like open up a bookstore. Yeah and It seemed like everybody at work. She's ruthless do you think she like drove all the other bookstores at a business. Now 'cause I went in another bookstore right before then No it was like a little bit of a weird books to not weird. It only had like pretty new books like it had no use books but then even like everything. It didn't have a huge selection. And everything curated by Judy blume. That's what you want. Yeah it was all basically new releases For the most part But yeah she wasn't there The store seemed mostly staffed by like retired women Which again is like? Oh that's nice like Mary Higgins Clark there as far as I know it wasn't other Grafton it wasn't other authors no I was I heard a guy at the registers like I came is. My Wife told me it. Pick up this book in He's like okay and she's ringing them up and somebody else asked if Judy was there that day and she's like no she'll be in later tonight though and guys like who is that and this guy was like a local like the woman knew him and he's like. Oh She's an author and she started this bookstore. She wrote a book called. Are you there? God It's me Margaret That was all about Judy. That was about a twelve year old girl where everybody else is having their period and she's not having her period and she You know upset about it and doesn't understand and this guy is just like and I'm like how have you not heard of Judy Bloom and this book But the guy I hadn't and he. He dislikes sat there silently as the woman explained the plot. The book Judy Blume is to him and then he was like all right. How much I owe you. And that was my experience I would. He ask if he was just GONNA POO POO IT. I because I maybe. He thought that she wrote books about motorcycles. Or something and he'd be like Oh cool everybody down there motorcycle book Leona Helmet Laws. Down there so. Nobody wears a helmet riding a motorcycle. That's right that's silly it's dangerous you're GONNA fall off that motorcycle on your head's GonNa pop like a grape Is it called books and books. Yeah Key West. That's that's the name of it books and look. I want this to be a travel guide for for Key West. When you're in Key West. Why have a bunch of ghosts Books at the end I'll be recommending. It looks like there's a pretty good selection emmy. It wasn't it was a pretty big store. Books and books K. W. dot com. Okay by your books there or don't or don't lose rich enough this now. An Anti Judy Plu Pot. You know what? It's time Judy. Blume a taste of medicine. Now that I just learned that she's still allies to say about it so that was arguably one run. In with a celebrity. I read that book. That's the one that Super Fudge too. I didn't like the fudge books I thought he would they genia. Yeah I was like Nah. I don't like the side character a little too much good as a side character. Knock it as a main character of a fourth grade. Now she's rules. Yeah freckled use. Oh that's what brought it up. The Guy was like yeah I misspoke the guy like by the counter there was a section that was all banned books. And he's like. Why do you have banned books? And she explain. Oh the owner of the place she wrote. This book was banned and explain why it was banned. And you know that she's against banning books and the guy was just like. Oh Oh my wife told me to buy this book. I don't care for books. That's not what he said but that was attitude the second run in the second run in. I have with a celebrity. Okay was going to the house at Ernest. Hemingway you soliven whose that Timmy wrote. A bunch of books. A bunch of stories Super Fudge. He wrote he wrote an unauthorized sequel to super. Yeah that's mostly what he was known for. no he has well. He's no longer with us. He shot himself in the head. If you must know yeah I must He has still the biggest private house in Key West Florida. It's that big almost an acre. I don't know how I'll never know. How BIG AN ACRE? I kind of now because I saw it right. I would say like from where we grew up in. Acre would probably be like half a block. Maybe quarter of a block and it's tough to say. Yeah you had some pretty long blocks definitely not a quarter of your blocks sixteen tennis courts in a four by four for. That's what I was GONNA say. Seventy five percent of an American football field. Okay yeah checks out now. I'm picturing it in my mind's eye that comes from the calculator site dot com. I love that you're crediting all the sources Yeah the becoming a big deal. People are getting shoes Shows again sued for hundreds of that stuff It was cool like it was weird to be in a house where somebody very very well known and like a an important like. American historical figure lived Because they haven't changed anything for the most part so it's like Here's the bedroom. Yeah that's his bed That's his dresser. Please don't touch those things But then the entire property is full of cats and they're all not all I guess but alive them are descendants from the the first cat that lived there that had six toes so ally. These cats have six toes. And they're hanging around there just walking all over many cats. I think they said sixteen cats. Currently wow maybe no fifty eight cats. Maybe it's fifty eight. Cats was a lot of cats is definitely more than sixteen. There were cats everywhere these cats stating care about people at all. They were fine where he wrote a farewell to arms. He wrote a bunch of stuff there. And you get to go super fudge strikes back you get to go in his writing studio to they. Have it set up with his typewriter and that part you're kind of in a cage you? Kinda can't get past. You know you can only look. You can't touch but it's like. Oh that's his typewriter. That's where he sat road and that's the toilet. He would take a dump in all right. Say why well it was neat to see him like celebrities? Their dislike us to where they like. You know you didn't flush before he is. His last word is still in there. You don't say the word and yeah you get to your a bunch of fun stories. You with a free nutcase that guy. He had a boxing ring in his byard. And we'd just invite people over to box him. Yeah he seems uh and then one time he went He was not a very faithful man to his lovers. Yeah he doesn't seem like like he was the greatest guy. No a lot of the stories were about how he there's a bar called sloppy joes down there and sloppy sloppy. Joes is where he hung out all the time nice and but then I heard oh well sloppy. Joes moved locations. I'm like Oh okay. So that it's like oh no that was the location because like he was there when they moved because You might notice this unusual fountain in the yard that the cats drink out of. That's a urinal from sloppy joes. That apparently he went to see is very good. Friends with Joe The owner and lobby man and said Yeah and when they were moving from one place to another you know they were doing demolition construction or whatever he saw one of the old journals and he said I flush so much money down that I've pissed so much money down that toilet. The least you can do is give it to me. It was like aren't all right. You want a toilet I mean. Aren't you very rich while on an old toilet check the journal and turn outside and the cats drink out of is a fountain and the cats even know they have no idea so. I spent half the tortoise laughing at the cats. You idiots yeah and that was a fun time and the the old sloppy joes is still a bar. It's called the Captain Tony Snow. They call it sloppy joes. There's a new place called. The place that was old location is still a bar. Did you get a both us by I did? Were you drunk the whole week? No I didn't drink. I drank every day but not a lot. You know because it's one of those things one of those vacations were. You're like always drinking but not heavily drinking. I guess yeah like I never woke up the hangover anything and nowadays like if I have three beers in a short period of time I'm GonNa be useless next day so I didn't drink that much The the place. Captain Tony's has one of those bars that has Brassieres all over on the ceiling. One of those places yeah. You've you've seen a movies places that have brassieres all all resistance on the ceiling brassieres hanging from the rafters like you wouldn't believe summiteers leaders. Hundreds brassieres feeling not thousands but definitely hundreds maybe over a thousand though. Maybe maybe over a thousand. Where did they get them from women? Tim Where do you think brassieres come from? I don't know the wholesaler. No not at ten. They're not from sailors. There from women women can be sailors. Yeah come on Twenty four next year ally. These bras look like they were older than This year so what are the circumstances? I don't know we're trying to figure it out like I like Like some dummy for national miss. I mean I know about this type of thing at some bars. I guess it's like one time. Somebody's like you know it'd be funny if I took off my bra and stapled it to the ceiling and then an idea takes or expensive. I know I wouldn't do it but I don't wear bras but maybe if you're there and it's like you know what I'm wearing like a real shitty broad. I've been meaning to get rid of anyway and it's kind of uncomfortable right now. I might as well stay to the ceiling here. Maybe people bring extra old Bras. Disable the ceiling. Maybe not necessarily coming off that night. I don't know and there was that place had dollar bills stapled all over to but there was another place that must have had like ten thousand dollars. Worth of dollar bills stapled everywhere to go down to key west for a heist no. 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Let's hang gliding right. Yeah you're right. What's paragliding? Paragliding might be when you've got the motor strapped to your back in your on a parachute you've got like an engine not just a motorist fan. A big Fan with an engine. Yeah okay paragliding. We Kapiti first thing. It says in like official Italic Font before it goes into anything not to be confused with parasailing or hang gliding. All right well. We came to the right place because we are confused. Paragliding is the recreational and competitive adventure sport of flying paragliders lightweight free flying foot launched glider aircraft with no rigid primary structure. Okay it's like a parachute jump up so it's like hang gliding with a parachute. Yeah pretty much okay but you were going parasailing higher sailing boat pulling you while you're hanging from. Yeah Yeah we talked about because I. I wasn't allowed to do it when I went to Bermuda. My parents said We've been not even talking about it last week but my parents said it was too windy but it wasn't too windy if they were still open because it didn't seem that windy this day and they closed it down so they they were still open when you went there than it wasn't to Wendy. Your parents are cowards. No I think they just eh like eight and they just didn't want go slip out of that Land in the ocean which is fine if you died parasailing dumb. Well you know. He did to himself that he took he took risky. Lewis who is a miniscule risk but in the same? My parents were. We'll put an eight year old on the move towards saying get to do that. I did post on instagram. I got reposted for anybody that I missed it. This guy that was on a jet pack with a dog on his back that right I think. So Yeah Tom I thought you were GonNa make thought you were taking notes of what we talked about. Last week I also went on went in a lighthouse. That was fun. Have you run out of interesting big interest more interesting things but I want to talk about the for a minute because he was eighty eight stairs? It's very scary. Going up at eight hundred stairs. That's not a lot. It is when they're going straight up and then when you go out it's like there's just a little railing. This wasn't really meant for tourists for a lighthouse keeper. That's going to do anything. Stupid up here Because he's probably GonNa die doing this job yen accident anyway. One of the guys. When the museum he died his he fell off a ladder. And then he he's slowly got better and then he fell off a ladder again. It sounded horrible life back then. There were like in the late. Eighteen hundreds being a lighthouse keepers one of the hardest jobs. There was really an everything sucked in the lady being like an oil tycoon was hard. I can't imagine how tough this was. And it was basically that there were two families that lived in this House. Which sounds like a nightmare to begin with and between the two of them? It's like that lights gotta be on every night no matter what and they said the first night the first year that they had this lighthouse even those man twenty four hours a day in the light was always on the first year they had five hundred shipwrecks way. Why would is just the way you like blocking the latest built facing the wrong way. They realize No I don't know I guess well they also had like the history of Like the upgrades and I think basically the first lighthouse. He was like yeah. We were burning whale oil. It just wasn't really that bright. You know there is any kind of a fog or anything. You couldn't see it lighthouse. Even because I think without it they would have had like two thousand shipwrecks. It did help and they slowly upgraded over the years until I got to the point where they need lighthouse keepers anymore. Jay took over. Yeah but it reminded me of the movie the Lighthouse which I liked very much. What was that movie is about? It's about late house at two crazy. Guys were yeah. I watch that you haven't seen that now. You would like it. Yeah it's it's weird. It's so weird. I really liked it. I loved how weird it was. Yeah and then. I went to a beach. That was next to a military base. Okay I brought my drone by Confli. The drunk because he was next to military base was a little upset about that. You packed a drone. Yeah I packed my drum pretty much everywhere. I go on an airplane. You should have just put it outside of the airplane to the airplane. The hotel. Yeah could've saved on. That could impact an extra pair underwear. Yeah no frigging you. Put your bag on top of the drone. It's not that strong. I don't know I brought to. Then they probably could have done. Maybe not on top tie tie. It had it exactly We've both see mission impossible. They have drones. No THE TATTOO TO THE HELICOPTER. Syndicated comics really. What is a helicopter if not a big drone I gotTa Stop Bringing Shit. I'm pretty good at packing light. But I've brought my drone and my nintendo switch on like every trip I've taken recently and I've never used either of them. It's fine I've never been somewhere where I'm like. I really wish I had my Nintendo switch. I mean every plane ride I make sure I have like forty hours of entertainment me too and then I watch some episode from season. One of friends on the seat back Entertainment System I asleep I downloaded gigabytes and gigabytes of stuff from net flicks. Hulu I had like twenty different books that I was going to start comics on my IPAD. The tunnel podcasts on my phone and then I fall asleep ten minutes into every flight. No matter what Yeah I. When I was flying out to Arizona it was thought the weekend of the Oscars and I had seen pretty much. All the Oscar nominated films except for nineteen seventeen. Lisbon's GonNa win so I gotTa Watch this so illegally. Had you illegal download it out? Recall gave it to you. I never watched it. I just deleted it fell asleep on the plane and didn't watch it and then it didn't win any awards so Dan. I only watch award winners. Well you're a man of Exquisite taste everybody says so By far the thing that was the most So also when I went to the one of the things I really liked about this place like when I went to that military base beach You can rent bicycles and just bike everywhere. Yes really nice. Did you rent a bicycle built for two? No I kept threatening to but then I couldn't find the place that had them although all the bikes down there that you rent they're all the Like the brakes were. Es Pedal backwards and it breaks and that was hard to get used to after not having one of those. Since I was like ten years old case used to equate enough. They'll give you a helmet because nobody was helmets down there. Yeah that's it was like fine like I was a little nervous on a bike. Like my bike in the city. I wear a helmet so down. There was like there's a lot more people biking. I feel a little bit safer. That people are looking out and like not as much traffic. Not As many people right. You know driving anywhere fast but I said these people riding their hogs tim with no helmets. Unbelievable Yeah it's dangerous. It doesn't matter how tough yard you fall off a motorcycle. Not Wearing a helmet is just gonNA kill you. I saw a guy riding a motorcycle helmet on but he did that thing that that I used to do before I at a ride a bike and some where you take your hands off for a minute for like a second in just like put them up in the air. I saw a guy on the B. Q. E. weaving in and out of traffic and then got into the Middle Lane in just did that a few times for the listener. Tim's holding his hands up and how abusive hurt his shoulder? No I got that That shot that axiom today. I'll show you the bandied. What is all over and hurts my arm. I had to put a band aid on my foot because of these Flip flops. I bought down there And now I have a hand line on my foot shape band. Yeah that's why I'm wearing socks right now. It usually barefoot when we're doing them on not not a Sicko The town down. There's really weird. We kept going one. Cvs where they had this one nice Older gentleman working there what you just would to the CVS numerous times. Well like an old man. They're not because he was there. He just happened always be there and he always had comments about everything I was buying like. Yeah the first time I went there and he'd flip flops because the flip flops. I bought and don't know what happened to them that that I brought. I've Ham for years immediately slipped down the stairs. You fall down the stairs. I don't like it. It's not a part that I'm proud of Luckily I like caught myself. You don't like falling down the stairs but I slipped and like managed to catch myself with my hands like bite like grabbing the railings on either side. That's the only thing that stopped me and I've done that before and like really hurt my arms and shoulders because till I do that suddenly sometimes it's like Oh that was the wrong way to catch myself and I put all my weight on a weird muscle that never gets used But so I need to get new flip ups. I don't know what the hell happened. These flip flops that the bottom became slippery. They like turned into plastic. Flip flops and a hat flipflops. Were nine dollars hat with six dollars. I was very happy with my purchases and the guy sounds like there's a great hat. I really literally the cheapest at you. Guys have your. He's I put one of these hats in the washing machine though it turned into Straw. Now it's like well. Why did you play? Where are you wash six dollar hat? What did you think was going to happen? You put it in the washing machine. It's GonNa destroy it in the washing machine. Yeah Hand Wash a man. Yeah But this guy was nice. He was there all the time and By the fourth time I visit he convinced me to go digital with my receipts at CBS. And every time he would scan my card on my phone and then asked me after that if I had the. Cbs APP. And I was like right. Yeah you just I showed you scanned it. It's like you WanNa go digital with your receipts. I am digital. I showed you digital you idiot. Yeah there were weird street performers. There's one there's one guy he would have liked doing. Stunts kindness like juggling. They climbed a ladder. And was it up against anything. No Yeah just had Four men holding holding attached to There was one street performer. That I didn't understand his bid was just hiding behind like sitting on a bucket hiding behind palm leaves and then when people walk by Boo and scaring them didn't learn as it worked but then he would ask them for a tip and I didn't see anyone ever. Why am I tip? Somebody who scared me? I don't like being scared and not even in a I don't like that. But if you startled me yeah. I'm angry at you. Well that's the way it is. It's like you didn't scare them. You startled them yeah. The person was not expecting somebody to jump out at them and they're in a different city and most times like if somebody jumps out of out of nowhere. People are on vacation. Assume they're being robbed. Yeah Look I. I wouldn't mind getting punked one day off. You're going to eat those words. One day him when he went Ashton comes out. Now who's the new host of Punk Don? Quimby oh I forget. Yeah at some some New Star. Yeah well I'll get back to you. There was also a spider man playing a sitar. He didn't seem to be doing that. Well no chance the rapper. Actually I will watch chance. You know I thought it was like one of the Like one of the boys from that group muscles. The big group wonder action. Yeah those one of them. Now's chance the rapper. One Direction and I could see chance rappers Pranks being a little more wholesome. A little more in good fun. Yeah Than Ashton. What punked wasn't mean spirited. Sometimes it was. Yeah dirty little secret Tom. I'm I'm a little excited. Vestige of these qube Grieving sponsored by quickly. And you didn't tell me about it. I wouldn't tell you about. It would be buzz marketing So the other there were two things on like the main drag that fascinated me one was the number one was the number of this was not the most fascinating but the number of CBD's stores and there were like two. It seemed like legal marijuana dispensaries that like looked really nice that nobody was in. Because they don't have legalized marijuana for medical bad. And it looked like kind of these places. very nice looking places that they open basically being like well in a few years. It's going to be legal. We're GONNA have this prime real estate and for now we can sell it to medical users but then there were like CBD's stores that some were dislike very skit. They were all pretty sketchy. I went in one because I was curious about like what they were selling and the guy tried to sell me. Cbd stuff that was like insanely overpriced. So I walked out but then there was one place. He was a little height and it had a bunch of like weird stuff and crate him. And Kava you know about these. What is it legal? But they're also drugs create them. Yeah you can put it in. You can make tea out of it and drink it. And they'll make you know yours psychedelic I give you take a little relaxes you if you take a lot. It's Psychedelic Nice. Aby these are legal drugs. You do these and Sam. I have no problem with it. Yeah no the those drug spent like the government hasn't caught up to yet so let's make me more nervous than like trying cocaine. But they had like one of those you ever see these machines where it fills a giant balloon full of vapor and then you suck out that balloon with it now that I talked about this last week. That way BRO. Wickets up no but we did talk about. Whip it time But I saw that in pursue balloon. What's in the balloon? He'll leaper attach marijuana. But in this case like Hamp Lake. Cbd Marijuana so they attach it to thing and basically the balloon. I guess acts like a lung and You know Heats up the thing while fans going like burr and fills up the balloon. And now you've got this big balloon that it's just full of Vapor C. Can you know suck on that? Like all at one sir. Maybe not all at once. Kazoo looked I get at it. I think that it can close itself. Yeah but I guess I was C b but the thing I there were two things. Let me see if you can figure out what this what this means. Is this going to be another drugs machine? No it said that they it was a sign that said that the place is open every day except for the days win. Disney and princess cruises were in dock like ally cruises dock there. Yeah why do think that is. Do you think the all powerful Disney Corporation is like. We don't want these drugs places open and they were able to like cut a deal with the city council to be like Yo. We'll doc somewhere else or maybe like you know. You guys influence the unseemly businesses when forests. Are there the other the? Cbd's stores did not seem to have any what was the place that was closed. It was a CD like hot outside of a a a bar like it looked like it was about the size and may have been the same type of thing as like a like a philophical card in the city like a swarm ACC. You know just like a little thing. That car can trail can carry behind it big enough for one person to be in the navy. That's when Mickey's CBD. Hut Opens. Up the other thing. I the only other thing I could think of was. If when those cruises come in they move to be closer to them and seemed like it was a one man operation. I go when those cruiser in a ton of people and they like this stuff so I go and just you know. Sell it right at the port. Yeah the other thing. I couldn't figure out. Well maybe I could figure out was that it said there was another sign that was like If if we're closed we we also do home delivery. Call this number and ask for Dragon Dragon. Yeah like a name. That's cool but here's what I think is that just a regular we'd service and was this whole thing just basically like an advertisement for like. Hey call this number and you can buy real. We'd probably why I mean. Yeah it seemed like a pretty good business. A dealing drugs is usually a good business usually make a lot of money dealing drugs and it safe then also seemed like they had all their bases covered of like. Hey you want to buy real. We'd yeah we'll come and sell it to you but also were selling like insanely overpriced. Cbd outside of a bar and a bunch a yokels think. Oh I guess it's legal in Florida and they're buying it and thinking it's it's GonNa get them high he yeah. I don't know what you'd put dragon if you were trying to fly under the radar. Yeah that's why I can figure out either like they do after hours delivery. Scott Scott Ellis coming in Scott. It might have been Pete. It might not have been dragon can remember now. I think it was something like dragon though. It's like a weird news either dragon or Pete. Yeah Pete's Dragon. That might be why. I'm confusing but also Mike. Where am I calling my calling? Somebody'S HOUSE WHY? Don't you put a cell phone number on there? Appear Call Pete and this is his number. Wait what was it? What was the number I don't know the actual number but you know it wasn't a cell phone number. I assume it was but it was. You don't have to ask for anyone because that cell phone belongs to the person you WanNa tell you that way you know you have the right number highs this pete and that way. He knows because his Pete's not that guy's me. Yeah but what if when he answers fingers Pete here well then then Oh good I got the wrong I got the right guy okay. So you're thinking maybe I should have called the number and seen what I think. Taken a picture of No because I don't think I do have a picture of it. I'll take luck years stories. Change dying so by far the most interesting thing I encountered down there was a store called Oro Gold Gold Gold. That was like some kind of a cosmetics store and there were two people like outside the store you know handing out flyers to people to get them in the store but then on the other side of the sidewalk maybe how wide is a sidewalk. Three feet that an acre on acre acres area too. It's not three feet wide. It's so about three feet away there to older people holding up Arrow signs that just say rip off pointing at the store. What store was it or gold? Okay and I was fascinated by this because you engage them. No 'cause you don't WANNA engage people. Why not my biggest problem in old people causing a scene you can walk away from et anytime without feeling bad and you could walk fairly quickly and they won't catch up to you all the my biggest problem in Key West Florida was and this is probably my problem in most places. That aren't New York is people. Don't mind their own fucking business about anything. Like I can't tell you how many times I almost said. Why don't you mind your own fucking business to somebody because people are asking? That's the thing I'm mine on minding my own business and then people always have things to say what? I can't remember now because I was just red with anger. Kind of people were these like middle busybodies. Yeah busybodies older busy body. Just give me one example. When you tell us why wasn't mine. But my her feet were a little sunburned and this woman came up to my sister-in-law on the sidewalk and it's like ooh her feet or really sunburned and she's like okay. Yeah I know thank you. Mind your own business. I can't remember on Gigi over here to give this lady that what I would have because by that point I'd at so many people putting their nose into my business and hell me what they think so. I didn't want to engage anyone for a guy that talks in our a week. Clip it on the Internet about nothing in particular mostly about just like random details from your life. Yeah you really have a proud to talk to you. I don't talk to you know some old guy. Yeah we went to a bar one night and there were no seats. And this is like Oh. We're going to be leaving in fifteen minutes again. Take our semi. Okay. Thanks. So where are you from? I'm like Oh come on. I know I'm not looking for a convert. Look if the deal is I got to talk with you to get this seat. Forget it the deals all. Stand here and look at my phone until you talk to my girlfriend. I'll be looking at my phone. And then we got seats on the other end of the bar and the guy kept like looking at me and raising a glass of me and he was there for two hours. He Dan leave after fifteen minutes. Yovany gave you a seat. No I got another see. Who was like this guy wasn't leaving? Raise it as class. People are too friendly exactly. It was like now. We're buddies because we talk for fifteen seconds when he reneged on a promise. Unless you're getting up I don't care you're not my friend until you get up and give me something and then he'll be leaving so he can't be friends thing right. Oh well two ships in the night so anyway I was so fascinated by this oral gold thing that I I One night bought a newspaper from newspaper machine because that was the front page headline one zero gold. Yeah about like what was going on what happened. So what have you have the newspaper? No I left it down. Pack a newspaper with me to leave the drone. Pack the newspaper also so glad because I bought the newspaper from a newspaper in machine. Right in front of Oro Gold Man. It's been so long since Bought a newspaper. I have a machine. That's fun you can take all of them like Geo hit on. The real world literally said to my girlfriend dare me take a ball like judd. And she's like I have no idea what you're talking about the real World San Francisco. When Judd's comic Strip was in the newspaper for the first time he was so excited and went through the newspaper. Machine put a quarter an open it and took all the newspapers out which you're not supposed to do or system. But in his defense. It was an exciting time for him. Then he should have paid for those papers. Like an honest man. Yeah look obstacles to side with him against Puck. When he has his own faults. Judd never licked his finger and then studied in the peanut butter. Yeah that is unforgivable. So I got to buy it out of the machine. Your girlfriend has not seen the real world San Francisco. He's not well enough that she knew when I said you dare me take them all like Judd. What that meant. Hey which I only you know judd himself would have no idea what we're talking about Ticket out of the machine did the whole like flourish with it like well. Let's see what's on the front page here. Well look at this breaking news so the problem was this store. This store does sound like a real scummy place. It looked nice but they also have like a big sign on the store that said they would like. Were not a licensed cosmetologist like it seemed like. Oh there's a law why you had to put that up. Yeah that apparently is placed there just scamming old people. They they sold a bunch of bullshit. Things like face creams and stuff. That was it has gold in it. So that's why it's so good and apparently You know they will get a live one. Bring them in so maybe like. Oh you know I'll take a jar of that That gold cream for one hundred dollars wherever and they great We'll we'll bag all will box and bag all that stuff up for you Oh you're in pay by credit card. Great Okay have a good day bye bye and these people get home and realize that they had sold them like three thousand dollars worth of stuff and that they had no return policy. Yeah so that's why. These old people were like to voting their retirement to just standing outside the signs that Said rip-off it seems like he was a bad move that that newspaper box machine was right outside Oro gold. The proprietor should have pulled the judd. And they're getting rid of the bad press. Yeah the one right in front of their Dang building and it seem like I mean I don't know how well they stock these things but There are only a few copies in there. I think it was a hot seller. Seventy five cents. It costs the by this newspaper. We're going to get sued by Oro Gold. We might don't go there. They're a rip off a call according to a bunch of retirees few like the show. Is that all yet on. You can also drink anywhere you want. And I went in a circle K. Strange things here but that was another reference. That is taking you win thank you. It's been building also bar that I didn't go inside up on the third floor and it's a clothing optional bar. That old people go to be naked. I didn't WANNA do that. I I want. I was curious but not curious enough. Yeah that that. Fool me so many times. When I went to Robert Moses Nude beat all right let's see what a bunch of centerfolds or they're tanning themselves. Today everybody was over. Eighty years old right and had huge. Paul said hung to the sand right if you like this. Show fear friend on facebook. Facebook DOT COM complete guide. You can follow us on twitter at complete guiding. Afa Me on twitter and Instagram at Tom. 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They'll give you a floater where they'll put some on the some extra on the top dollar fifty more. The other weird thing was being down there like hearing like a key. West is expensive key west expensive. No nothing's expensive compared to New York. Yeah literally anywhere you go is going to be cheaper. I couldn't get over. How like inexpensive drinks were down there and part of it was because they you know open container no open container laws. So it's like oh well that bars competing with the seven eleven next door. They'll sell you a beer for a dollar fifty but This place with the frozen peas cloud that I got Tasted like shit. It tasted like bad Pina Colada and then it was made with one fifty one rum one hundred and fifty one proof from but it wasn't like a brand I had ever heard of so as like a fish unless you to costs three dollars seven dollars for it But it wasn't good. It got very drunk but it didn't taste good. I was already a little drunk and it still didn't taste good. 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Episode 9 - Florida: Robert the Doll

State of Fear Podcast

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Episode 9 - Florida: Robert the Doll

"The following is the fourth production. You'll never mind that. Welcome to the one on one podcast. I'm your host one. I know that was a mouthful but join us while we talk about a variety of things. Life business maybe some conspiracy theories who knows sit back and enjoy the ride can answer all your lifelong questions. Like is it okay to shave your balls with the same machine using your face. I don't know anyways. Follow on Social Media Instagram at the one on one. Podcast catch us on Apple podcast. Google podcast spotify stitcher. Where you can catch our weekly episodes Laura one welcome back to another fantastic episode of state of fear. I mean it was Chris and with me always is the CO host with the most assistances. James what's up? Everybody and today's State is Florida. Flo Rider flow rider. The he grade the Sunshine State the State of Florida which you call in California when we did California but now metaphysics what would it. What is California California's Golden State? My bad that's okay anyway. So today's for Florida we. We went through a few different things. There's a lot going on in Florida Viva Nebraska Yet there were a lot of different topics that we went through in Florida we kind of narrowed it down to this one just for the time being but today's topic is on Robert. Dolf Robert the dull this as This was something that I had once heard about but I had not really looked into it or heard of it but You know I've seen pictures of them before and stuff like that guy and I'm actually very excited to talk about this. I like talking about creepy stuff. Have you seen any the The TV shows episodes where they've done on Robert Dole. I believe a saw one okay. I'm I can't remember what show it was like. I said it's been awhile since I've watched paranormal shows that ED might I don't know did Do One on the collector about him. I mean our does. He not do shows on things that he can't get his hands on. I mean I don't I don't watch shows I have no idea okay. Yeah I've watched it go show since go back in like two thousand six. Well the heck with it. We'll just roll forward. No Chris I haven't seen any shows that I can remember about Robert but I have heard of okay and You know he looks like I do know what he looks like. A lot of people probably seen pictures of him. He's a little patchwork doll. Yeah forty eight inches or forty inches tall. He's big and he's dressed like a little sailor. He's got a very happy face at has a teddy bear. Yes very wack looking. But before that. Let's talk about a couple of our favorite dolls. Chucky love chugging who Most of these are probably inspired by Robert at some point or other actual on adults that is true. Yeah Yeah There's also the other real life one Annabel Annabel now said we'd like to talk about this one because the moving yes doesn't do it justice. Of course. Should I say than the movie. They've completely changed. Annabel's appearance right the true Annabel if anybody out there knows about her is a raggedy endel looks as harmless as can be but yet it is haunted as hell. This they've got it in the case is do not touch. You know somebody to hands on this thing and that to me. That makes it more scary. Because you're you're not assuming that stall to be evil absolute doll in the movie you look at. It looks at look evil. It looks evil. Hell assume something bad's going to happen. Yeah this other. Dog is a raggedy Ann doll which they sold in mass produced mass. And so they were all over all over the world. Yellow kidding and so and it's got this simple it's a simple patchwork doll would ever and you assume that. It's a nice fun doll but this one is evil yet because they've made the actual annabel movie about a raggedy end-all attacking and killing people. You would see kids. Running screaming from Toys R. Us has all over the planet that I think for. Adulthood probably look really ridiculous. It will having a raggedy Ann Doll Yellow Fighting. It would and so they had to scary it up maintenance. She's actually. We looked her up. She's actually forty eight inches tall. He's almost life size. Yes she's an creepy as hell. This doll here. They did a real good job on it. Of course we all anybody's in the paranormal Christian. The paranormal allot right. Know what the Real Annabelle looks like. Then we see this and we roll our eyes but so be you know. I mean like you said they're going to sell movies too if they're gonNA sell tickets to a horror movie. They're not going to sell it pedaling. Some raggedy Ann doll drive. They're not gonNA have not going to be scary. Obviously not no. There's another dog called. Brahms the boy that was made into two movies A and to me. This is almost the closest to be inspired by Robert Daw. Because it's a it's a boy doll first of all. It was gifted to a boy as well but in the movie the boy supposedly dies and so the doll ends up being a representation of the bow. Their son that they lost. That's right done then. The spirit of the boy go into the doll supposedly okay and they hire somebody to come in and actually baby doll over and the doll ends up like Robert ends up In different places. Now we're supposed to be not where they put him last time he they hear like feet running in and things happened like Robert Doll Keep the ten bucks. I'm out the twist babysitting the damn thing. The twist for this one is at the boys I actually dead. He's living in the walls. Oh Jeez and so. He comes out to move doll on his own. And he's the one who's yeah and here it's stupid shit. Is it okay. That's too bad because well maybe that'll make it on our other projects on day. It's what the suck tears I've never seen. I've never seen brom boy or whatever they call him the boy the second one is called Brom. The boy okay. Yeah okay now. There's also the dolls from the puppet master series Lomu. I love the little drew. Drill your favorite. That's my favorite is Leech woman leach. She had gone up those leeches. Yup was as to kid with scary shit because I'm like how does she have all in Leeches? Limited side a little doll because there are a lot she threw up a lot. Yes he did. Yeah that is for sure drills cool to. I'd like to drill the frigging Nazi one with the scissors. Yes he was kind of creepy. Yeah and the little one with a hook you know. They're they're pretty much all evil. The one I thought was always funny was the was pinhead. Yeah because they they you know he's tiny head and he had like a turtleneck that's right and they had puppeteer his hands in the holes for his hands. And obviously you could tell it was an adult hand and it just looked funny as hell. Yeah good movies though. And then of course we have the Zuni hunter doll from trilogy of terror. One of my favorite on your favorites from us with Karen. Black the last segment of the movie where she has botany doll for her boyfriend. And there's a chain attached to it when the chain falls off the hunter comes alive and proceeds to hunter down through her apartment. And which actually for its time was a very very well done but TV made movie. But I do believe there are such dolls that actually exist in the world at least by legend. I don't know too much about them but I have heard you know like you know 'cause like you got voodoo dolls things like that things with energy things attached to things. I mean I just can be possessed. I mean we've seen it we've heard about all the time I mean John. Zappa's does a very good living collecting these things. Yes he do. You know and Zach begins does well for his museum that we will not discuss on here and let's not forget the fact that the famous dolls can be big business on Ebay. I have people are selling their quote unquote haunted doll's all the time and there are organizations out there that by these things at like ridiculously high prices online. Yeah if I want to buy haunted stuff I'll take my ex wife with me and say hey. Put Your hands over this. 'cause she sensitive to stuff like that. It'd be better a better deal than actually buying someone Ebay because you guarantee you're not getting anything quote unquote haunted at all new. No we we apparently also have haunted. Doll yes we do. We have a bear as a little teddy bear. Yeah we found him an antique centre and he's part of our collection. You know we have a doll bear. We have wind chime. There was set a wind chimes. We also have an owl. We have haunted. That's right I do. I pick that up. Yup I think our friend has any so okay. Yeah yeah all right. Well that's a trip through some of the more famous quote unquote killer slash haunting. Don't come And before we get into the weird news of the day Abso lutely today story is a pretty interesting one deals with little hailey intelligent up in the tallahassee story is called creepy extinct fish with fingers. Unearth the bizarre truth of how hands evolve story goes no not those fish fingers defrosting and a microwave weren't required here. Humans may not be directly related to fish. Except maybe Abe Sapien that creature from the shape of water but the fossil of an extinct fish known as El piece of St Joie. Sony was a breakthrough for a research team from flinders university in Australia and university. Say Quebec a Rimouski in Canada. This literal fish out of water had fingers as an actual finger. Bones on its pectoral fins. It's three hundred eighty. Million-year-old skeleton revealed how vertebrate fingers evolved from fence. That is impressive. First of all three hundred and eighty million years that predates dinosaurs by three hundred fifteen million years. I'll that's something else is talking about. Sixty five million years ago was our boy. T. Rex like that. `continuing is how it prehistoric fish morphed into tetrapods the fine coat reveals extraordinary new information about evolution of the vertebrate hand said Dr John Long Strategic Professor in Paleontology at flinders university who recently published a study in nature quote. This is the first time that we have unequivocally discovered fingers locked in a fin with fin rays in any known fish the articulating digits in the fin are like the finger bones. Found in the hands of most animals L. Peace does to Galions. That's a great word. We're amphibious predators that merged features of fish and tetrapods. They were the closest known evolutionary ancestors of tetrapods but are thought to have appeared more fish like closer to how you would probably imagine a fish crocodile hybrid since they still had the scales and Gills Weird. They're large skulls with is on top. Were part of their morphology closer to tetrapods and unlike fish they had in significant dorsal and anal fins or none at all relying instead on their pectoral fins to carry them around in shallow water or all the way to shore finger like bones made it easier for them to spread their weight through these fans. No other fossils have revealed a complete anatomy of NLP so stick aliens extraordinary pectoral fins until now out of four L. Peace does to gaily. I wonder how many times they're gonNA throw that word. Species e y Sony is the only one whose body shape and proportions can now be fully fleshed out. Tetrapods are thought to have emerged in the form of L. Pistols to Galions during the DEVONIAN period. Earlier fossilized impressions of bones that suggested the beginnings of transformation do exist but these not quite fish or tetrapod morphs which probably walked marked the dawn of the transformation into tetrapods what may have deceptively appeared to be a thin could have been mistaken for one since it still shows fin rays characteristic of fish. These fans were actually hiding skeletal. Digits that long and his team determined to be the closest skeletal structure to tetrapod hand. Ever found quote. These findings pushes back the origin of digits invertebrates to the fish level. The fish level. I liked it and tells us that. The patterning vertebrate hand was first developed deep in the evolution just before fishes left water. So where did fish in tetrapods begin? The DEVONIAN phenomenon of fish fingers was undoubtedly one of the most significant events in vertebrate evolution later incarnations of tetrapod Amorphous would eventually ditz the gills for lungs and further adapt to terrestrial life by developing strong muscular structures. Infants that were turning into legs. Dorsal and anal fins that are now necessary for stability and swimming and water also disappeared. Functions of major organs began to change and since and sensory abilities to detect movement of predators and prey in the water gradually faded through e Wa. Sony was probably not much danger of being eaten since it had fangs for days. Lp's tostes further blurs the line between fish and tetrapods and showing a greater number of tetrapod. Novelties then are present in any other fish Watson and his team concluded in the study. We just hope that monster sharks won't start taking sunset walks on the beach anytime soon. And that's my that's my worst nightmare. Y- yeah charge might worst worst nightmare not not funny like Batman Shark like Real Dangerous Land Shark. That's an interesting story but yes eventually I do know that. A lot of rip tilles species were evolved from creatures crawl learning to crawl from the water. Eventually at some point had fingers crazy. Yeah and I bet they use that middle one a lot especially when the traffic was bad. Insure out under the under the seat. I'm sure but that is our store today. My brother McHugh imagined swim in the lake. And you don't feel fish you know go past you have all avoid the hell out of yeah but like if they had fingers and they just kind of like you know when when you're walking through a crowd and you kind of push away through a crowd using your hands sometimes. Imagine a fish doing that your leg full. Get out fingers or grass or something. That'd be bad wouldn't work. That would be weird. Yeah alright good story news now. Rapper So all of the research from this episode comes from a few sources there's an atlas obscured com article all interesting dot com article Artist House Key West article and From episode fifteen of the lower podcast called on boxed. Nice one warm day. Plumber enters a house on Eden Street and Key West Florida on his way into the house. He notices doll in a chair staring out an upstairs window. The home belongs to Mr and Mrs Thomas Otto. Their three sons and a special friend however that day. None of the children were at home while attending to his assignment. Plummer suddenly heard the laughter of children. Come from the upper part of the house remembering that the children were not at home. He decided to investigate and when he reached the room the doll was in he founded though had moved to another part of the room objects he had seen in the dolls lap where now on the other side of the room as if a doll had thrown him. That doll belong to youngest child. Robert Eugene Otto. Its name was Robert. The Doll Robert. The doll is one hundred sixteen year old dolled at currently resides at the fort. East Mortello Museum in Key West Florida. The officials at the museum trace Roberts origin to the steiff company a toy designer that created the ferry. I Teddy Bear for Theodore Roosevelt. A staife story and told Museum Robert was never meant to be a toy. He was not a mass produced item and most likely was part of a set fabricated for a window display of clouds or gestures. This would explain the dolls unusual size. Robert has a forty inch doll while dolls from the time period generally didn't exceed fourteen inches. Most stories agree. That Robert was given to Robert Eugene Auto. Who went by Jean by his grandfather as a birthday gift? Who bought the doll during a trip to Germany? However there are other stories perpetrator around there. One is that he was given to Jean by the families made as retaliation for wrongdoing perpetrated by the family The other says that he was given to Jean by his great aunt. Bridget who was also on a trip to Germany and found the doll while shopping But the vast majority of historians believe that he was given to him by his grandfather but he's still emanates from Germany still German no matter what who who gave it to him what he's come from. Jerem comes from the Steve Company yells. Once he received the data where he got it from a doll had an immediate effect on gene and they soon became inseparable. Gene was a quiet shy boy. Who founded hard to make friends having this life sized dog a gene friend that he had never had before he was so enamored with all that genie named the after himself and even dressed him in one of his own sailor outfits. That bothers me though. Boy who has trouble making friends instead of helping him. I don't know I guess back. Then I don't know. Psychology was really heavily used or something for children But I just. I have a problem with that. Was put him up in the attic with a doll and let him to sit there and talk to the all day at just. It just seems little whack to me like an easy. There's no easy fix easy fix. Yeah there's like today's if a kid don't behave you just plug them into xbox and walkaway drugs up. Yeah Yeah you know some rare Lynn or something. Yeah yeah no thanks. Gene would place the doll in a chair next to him at the dinner table in the doll would sit on the toilet while gene bathe almost watching over him gene eventually gave. Robert his own room in the attic complete furniture toys and even a teddy bear and a chair that Roberts always sat in his parents in the household staff began to claim they could here gene in his bedroom. Having full conversations with someone they swore was another person that was not gene but when they would enter the room they always found gene sitting on the floor across from Robert who was always in his favorite chair however there were other times when his mother would often find him in the corner of his room cowering holding his knees in his arms while the doll sat in a chair and stared now. That is interesting to me as well because that brings to mind the possibility of a split personality disorder. Are you know not even bipolar? We're talk right Blit. Now the personnel whole different person he can carry on a conversation back and forth and flip the switch. That is a very good assumption. Yeah it's just it's it's I mean happens to fit the facts. But you know it's just a if you're hearing conversations with the. Yeah when the whole other person and hold their voice is not your son's because that is one of the big things with people with multiple personalities is a complete personality and voice change right can't please I mean it. It's it's scary. I have seen videos on this stuff. It's very strange. Yeah so that that could have been one of the things that was going on especially cowering. Yeah maybe the other e his alter ego was terrifying and scared the shit out of them I mean. I don't know like the movie split absolutely many times. His parents would be awoken in the middle of the night to jeans screaming in his room when they reached it they found all the furniture had been overturned to which gene always swore. It was robbers fault. The family then began to find mutilated toys strewn about the house staff. What sometimes find silverware and dishes strewn about on ninety one floor on occasion but each time when confronted gene would proclaim. Robert did it and many times. Servants would find Robert in different parts of the house even when gene wasn't home. That's the first of all that seriously unhealthy. You know they. They just like they let this poor boy go on and on and on like this blaming things on the doll he'd probably had rage issues. You know you know temporary or are what do you call out of control you know if he had multiple personalities may be. One of them was extraordinarily violent yet. I felt like because this was like nineteen. Four people were very proper back then. They were much more into child discipline. Yes so much so I think no matter how much he claimed Robert did it. The parents didn't believe him in probably did this. Lynn quite a bit for not taking responsibility for things that he did. Yeah I the thing is did. Yeah and then also this thing about things moving around when Gene wasn't home. That's pretty cool that yeah yeah. I like it's freaky though expecting it though. True that yes very much. So the experiences then began to happen to guests and visitors of the house some claim to have seen the doll move slightly even blink others claim to hear laughter. Even when no one was home neighbors even began to report sightings as they would often claim to see. Robert Staring out one window at the top of the house only to look away. Look back sorry and vitamin A complete different window. Footsteps would often be heard when none of the children were at home. Gene would eventually go off to study at the Academy of Fine Arts in Chicago and the Art Students League York as a painter leaving Robert. Behind in the attic you would go on to travel Europe and soon met and fell in love with an Ed Parker. While studying in Paris the two were married on. May Third Nineteen thirty and not long after they took a residents in New York. It seemed gene had overcome. His shyness settled down and left his friend in the past several years after Jeanette moved to New York. Jean's parents passed away and will the House on Easy Street to him. They moved in and would spend the next forty years in a house along with the House and all his possessions was Robert and once again the holdall had over. Gene was immediate. Who said Robert once again had a place at the table? A place at the foot of the couples bed and gene was seen carrying the doll with him about the house and that was said to be unnerved by the connection the two had at one point may gene remove. Robert back to the addict once again. This was not enough to Stop Robert. Though the couple would occasionally find Robert in the house and at night here. The same footsteps as servants and guests had heard decades before Robert and Jean remained together in the House on Eating Street until Jean's death in nineteen seventy four. After her husband's death net demanded doll remain in the chest in the attic and he did however shortly after his death and that sold a house and died herself. Two years later there are many stories out there that say net was driven mad by the doll. And because of this she perished before Jean did and not really sure we'll came from but the more legitimate sources say. She died after gene two years in a new house in Florida. Not The spooky about that. No the new owner. Myrtle Reuter found a doll in the attic and took it out of the chest. Robert would be on display once again for all to see and for the next twenty years. Reuter and her guests would report weird things happening to and around the doll. Reuter and many other guests would swear that Roberts facial expression would change whenever genes would be brought up in conversation. Oh hell no now. This is actually not the this if any now if anyone bad mouth gene within Roberts presence it was said. His expression would change to one of anger. Man Gimme a match Burnett dog taking him out in the back and tortured him. I mean that's I mean it's one thing for the anybody who hasn't seen the doll doll okay. There's there's not a lot of facial features on him. Now he's a patchwork doll for one. He's got to be the I at least ditching. Yeah he's got to be the is and he's got like heavy stitching and he's got like weird little mouth. Yeah so for his facial expression the change in general is that's just starting ordinary. Yeah absolutely for him to get angry. Firm to form to form the eyebrow move minted. Yeah because there are dolls. Are we've all seen and pictures and photographs things like that? You know that they follow you right. You can walk from one of the room to the other and it looks like the damn thing is staring at your whole time. The whole ten traffic was dummies. Are Bad about. Oh yeah that's right another one but yeah I can see how that would happen but man. I'm telling you if I saw it change expression. I'm sorry I'm finishing my tea. And getting the hell out. He would burn down time my house once again. The footsteps will be heard. Robert will be found in parts of the house he wasn't supposed to be in Reuter. Would eventually move from the House on eaten in nineteen eighty but she decided to take Robert with her. Eventually in Nineteen ninety-four Reuter donated Robert to the East Martell Museum in Key West Florida stories claimed that she don't eat him out of fear for the safety of her family. Then why my friend which? She takes the doll with her. Why didn't she get rid of it immediately? That's what that's what gets me about this. When family has fear of an object or something that's affecting their lives get rid of it. We hear all too often. People hang onto stuff for some weird reason. I guess maybe the you know gene and his family you know. His parents held onto that Dolph so long because of the fact that it gave Robert Joy Comfort to their son even when it terrified him at least a kept him in check. Well maybe he was I don I mean I'm no doctor but maybe he was autistic because I do know. Autistic children become extraordinarily excessive obsessed with certain things right maybe he latched onto this doll and this thing got hold him so bad and then the change of voice he could have suffered multiple conditions. We don't know but you know these days it'd be easier to diagnose stuff like this back early. Nineteen hundreds. They wouldn't know what the hell variety. Yeah I mean I I wonder if maybe Reuter had a bit of the same the same personality is as a gene where she was easily overtaken by Dolph. Maybe so because first of all this thing is extraordinary looking. Yeah it's very different. It's not like any dog you've seen you know it's very odd Fran this like. I don't know I mean 'cause like again you said if things had happened the entire time you had the doll and you move out in the doll came with the house. Why why would you take it all with you unless you know? Robert had a sort of not a possession but he sort of oppression type feeling over his host. Well may gene was as I said and Mary Reuter not an Reuter was his second host. Maybe he was able to oppress her to the point to where when she moved out. Fourteen years later at that point you know it was almost like a Stockholm Syndrome. Exactly she couldn't leave without him yet. I mean that's that's what I'm I'm I'm thinking maybe but as started. But you know what it could. It could be a variety of things right One of the daughters claims she was even attacked by Robert which led to her donating it. Holy Crap Yeah that that'd been it for me. I think at that point you wouldn't have donated pilots would have burned the thing death. We'll see like I remember earlier. You were you. Were saying how he would appear in a window when nobody was home and then he would change windows. Nobody's home. How do we know that they didn't keep the kid in the attic while they were gone? Locked him up yeah he could be up there messing around stuff like that. You know just people just weren't catching it. I mean there are. There are ways. To debunk stuff. Like right but one way or the other still scary. So creepy his yes. Robert began appearing at the foot of Reuters bed in the middle of the night and after one particular night when laughter and movement were heard just prior to finding him. Once again at the foot of her bed she had had enough hail. No it's not one and it happened more than once. Not Not even that but I agree with her. That the scariest thing is not the fact that happened more than once. It was at the last time it happened. She'd heard laughter and footsteps before it happened. Which means doll was moving. And that's it. You're done. No at Fallen Robert. His head had gotten taken off because my twelve gauge is right above my bed. I'd come right down with the Buckshot. Robert would dead by Robert. He'd be all of that ahead. Hell no you know I love ghost. Yeah I love haunting. I love stuff like that. But if the if the doll is appearing at the foot of my bed he's laughing and then sitting there staring at me he go. He's not respecting your space. No he I'll I'll take him out. Nowadays Poltergeist Clown Doll. He's living his six foot distance. Minimum you know he violating CDC protocol my bubble. He goes right he he messed up and get shot a few months. After Robert went. T- Museum Reuter died while Robert may have been a bad luck. Hohmann for those who cross gene. He seems to be very good luck. Hohmann for the museum since his arrival in Nineteen Ninety-four Museum staff claim. They've had a large increase in visitors. All to see Robert the haunted all the staff also claimed that video and devices near Operas Case Malfunction which is very common and perform absolutely draining. The energy the exhibit is brought people from all over the world including ghost hunters and psychics. Just to get a chance to meet the doll that has scared countless others but brought joy infringe up to one lonely little boy and that is stories of Robert Dole. Sad at assist. I mean I just a sad story. It's Abbot's got some. It's got spooky element but it's also very sad story that poor little guy up there with just nothing but at all to play with for God knows how long he he knows. He turned out his life turned out pretty. Lucky I would say because generally you know if you have a sort of childhood. He don't grow up to be a functioning member of society but he grew up he went to college. He got married. Got Together you know so You know when he went back home doll kind of re re oppressed him but prior to that he was able to have a fully functioning life and he died of old age. And so did the wife you know so I guess maybe when he went back calm you think maybe he regressed emotionally and psychologically a little bit back when he was boy. I know and I would probably I would probably say that. Also having a lot to do with sometimes when you have a childhood that's not while not rough as a like like he was was very shy and awkward to have a father who may have been a bit more bearing. Maybe there's there's some sort of you know underlying Unspoken sort of history there that that's going to affect you and then you see the doll in all comes coming. Come coming back to you and your home is probably loaded to the gills with energy. Oh yeah all kinds of negative energies and just paranormal energies. You know all kinds of stuff. Yeah and so. I'm sure he's kind of cool to investigate that house. Actually I believe it's a tourist house now so is it now. You can go in there to put Robert back in that house them. I you know I don't quote me on this because I I don't watch shows but I swear at one point. I saw a ghost show. That did that. They took the doll back to the House to investigate lifted. That might be something worth looking up. Maybe I dreamed it. I don't know again. Don't don't know call me on that but I don't remember them getting any real Extraordinary evidence off of that though. I think next time I'm in Florida. I'M GONNA go fine Robert and check him out. You shouldn't go take a bunch of pictures absolutely now. There's a thing that says that if you go to if you go to see Robert Dole at the museum you have to ask his permission to take his picture If you don't there are stories of people who have done that who have not asked permission. And later on had a series of bad luck events happening to them to the point where they've actually mailed him a card apologizing for their slight really museum gets tons of cars all the time for people who have done just that observe the phone. Yeah exactly because they had something happen. You know a bad luck. Hit them after they left museum. Wow and they sent a letter back saying I apologize something or other and you know. I don't know if that turns around or not but people believe that much that they will go to that point. Well brother maybe that just proves it. Maybe something is just pretty damn sinister. Attached to this Dau- I'm willing to go. Investigate it absolutely go test? It out may too hard. Well that's the end of this episode of another great one in the books absolutely. I love this topic. That was a good one now. James Tell tell the fine folks at home If they don't know already where they can find us on social media and on the APPs absolutely we are on the fourth hand dot Com media network and proud members. Love these guys. Lots of great shows. Please go check him out. Give Him some. Light skinned some reviews. Check out the shows. You also find our other project. What the sector. We do our Ratings of forgotten and really crappy horror Really forgotten crappy movies. 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My name is Melissa in my story is about the serial killer Gerald Stan no I grew up in Daytona Beach Florida in the nineteen seventies eighties. My Dad was a police officer any to share all kinds of work stuff with me that made me feel like a grown up but it meant that. I didn't have a childhood like other kids while other families talked about school or sports around the dinner tables at our house. The main topic was crime. Let crimes committed by motorcycle gangs in Daytona to crime farther afield like the Atlanta child murders? My Dad took me aside one day and said girl. Keep your head on a swivel. And don't trust anyone. Every Sunday. I will go to church with my grandparents. They were super religious than they used to do. Tent revivals back in the thirties and forties. So we'd go to church and afterwards we had a weekly eating lunch at a little restaurant around the corner from my mom's house. I'm not going to name the restaurant because it's still in business today but they advertised as having the best chicken town and it was the most delicious fried chicken I've ever eaten. I can't tell you how many times I've been there. Probably over a hundred. We even got takeout during the week. Most of the time to but what we didn't know is that our food was being cooked by serial killer. Gerald Stana was cook there. I knew him not personally but onsite when my grandfather would pay our bill after the Sunday meal. I'd walk up with him because he'd let me handle the money and get changed and it was fun for me. I remember standing there waiting for the cashier and look back in the kitchen in there he was he always smiles at me and I would wave back. Nobody thought anything about it. When Stana was arrested they came for him. His job man. That news travels fast and was on the TV that night mother was flipping out one of his victims shopped at a small craft store that my mother and I went to all the time when they found her abandoned car. A bag of fabric for a cheerleading costume was still in the backseat. Another woman was murdered in a wooded area less than a tenth of a mile from my elementary school. I rode my bike passed there every day for school. The restaurant to murder scenes were with a mile radius of home a shudder to think that the same hands at dipped in flour. All that Fried Chicken murdered twenty two women in our community to this day. I still can't eat fried chicken on the bone when they asked him how he would hunt victim. Stanton said I would find a girl walking. Sometimes those girls were in my own neighborhood. As he stopped young women drive in to and from his job so fast forward to two thousand five in Daytona. When small articles started appearing in the local newspaper body found near the river or local woman found dead very vague? No information after a few these popped up. I knew we had another serial killer down but Tourism Isakov Communities Lifeblood and it was kept very hush hush to date the Daytona be. Serial killer is being looked at for twenty one murders but the case went cold and we were left scared and wonder what was in Twenty Nineteen. Everything came full circle law enforcement caught the Daytona Beach serial killer when his DNA was linked to four women. Murdered from two thousand five to two thousand seven. At the time he was being held on suspicion of another twenty sixteen murder in south Florida. I can still hear my dad's voice saying don't trust anybody so Robert Hayes the Daytona beach serial killer was a criminal justice major. He knew how to get away with murder and how to hide in plain sight and the news media replayed Gerald Stan being arrested at that chicken joint. We love so much. Go figure thank you. My name is Melissa. And I'm GonNa talk about Florida's skunk eight. I grew up in east central Florida and heard a lot of stories off and on through the years about our version of bigfoot. Here called the skunk ape. My Dad had all kinds of crazy stories from firemen. Policemen who'd be out responding see things never in a million years? Did I dream that it would actually happen to me and my partner? So this actually happened in two thousand and two. I haven't reported to the Farro but I've been thinking about it now that my partners retired him and I worked together for nearly ten years. And we've been through a lot together I'm a retired. Firefighter paramedic and I work on an ambulance. Now at the time Him In our work together at the Fire Station in Oak Hill Florida. About eleven o'clock one night we received a call backup some other first responders work in a bad motor vehicle crash at the end of Lake. Harney road this was on the hosting side of May town road. If you're not familiar with that It's a long stretch of very desolate road two lane highway. That is surrounded by tree farms. It's about eighteen miles one way at the time. Carney road was rural and unpaved Sandy washboard. It's all paved now but back. Then it was a really rough area. It was a full moon and it was really bright out. We drove our engine down Lake Harney road. We made a right then left at the time. The area around there were all fields of that native grass in some sparse pine trees. My partner was driving and we saw a dead deer. That look like it'd been hit by a car lying on a curve on the west side of the road in it looked looked pretty fresh as we pass the Dior My supervisor called requested that we stay around there were we could see down farther and we could see that there were a lot of emergency vehicles parked down there and they just asked to stay in that area just to not a log. Jam The whole area so we ended up parking the engine about two hundred feet south of where we saw that deer. We turned off our headlights. Amway staged in the road with her running lights on. We were talking for a while and I think I did stop for a few minutes. Well I woke up when our supervisor called back and released us to go back to our station because they didn't need us. We had to drive down pretty pretty far to find a place to turn around because it goes from Pine uplands to really wet Swamp type area so we finally got turned around and on the way back. I noticed that the deer was gone and I said to him. Look at that. What happened that deer and he just liked said something like quick. Like wow. That's weird that dierks gone and that was it well. We didn't talk about it. After that eight months later we were sitting around the station and my partner asks me if I remember that Call Lake Arni road with the missing dead deer. I started to tell him. I thought it was a panther that drug it off. I remember this whole situation really clear because at the time I was involved with Florida Panther Conservation. I mean I was really into it. I even started carrying like a plaster of Paris. Kit Case only tracks you know and I remember thinking that night. Wow I bet a panther drug that off. I should've looked in the road for tracks and I thought about that for a while and I was frightened about that. It was like a missed opportunity for me. Well my partner stopped me right there and he said Nope it was absolutely not a panther. He said he was looking in. The driver's side Mirror won a very large figure. I mean he said it was probably at least seven or eight foot tall. Cross the road in two steps it picked up the deer slung it on its shoulder and walked into the fields. He said he wasn't able to make out any other. Are Glaring details other than it was just big and fast and dark? He did say that he instantly knew in his heart. He was not looking at a man. My partner kept it from me because he said he didn't want me to beat afraid to be in the woods you know because we've we have brushfires stuff all the time you know. You don't WanNa be scared working out there. Well after he told me about seeing that crip did we never talked about it after that and I kept it to myself. I know that he was really afraid that if that story got out that he'd seen that that the other firemen would pick on them or just you know ready to kill that type of thing. Well his story really scared me him and our partners for nearly ten years and we were really tight and to me. His word is gold. I still run calls out in that same area. But I'll tell you what I sure as hell don't run calls out there at night. Have a good evening. You've been listening to four hundred shines.

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"This is a head gum podcast. Welcome to the complete everything. A podcast about everything. I'm one of your host Tom. I'm Tim Tim. How're you doing this week? Tom? I'm doing okay. I'm a little thrown off. It's it's we're recording on a different day than normal. Say the day Monday. I'm afraid that Garfield to listening. He hates Mondays. Yeah famously great. We just lost that. The cat that everybody loves to drink coffee with Garfield The cat right in the comic doesn't drink coffee right. But because he's on so many mugs they had to liquidate it in. No I think I mean not in the cartoon but in the comic strip I think maybe he drinks coffee something. I've read a lot of airfield Have you ever read the Book Garfield takes the cake. Yeah I think so you you recommended to me. Yeah when we were when we were kids a you can like do this thing at the library whereas like if you read books you get like points or something like the was at the Pizza Hut thing. Yeah you got Pizza Pizza. Yeah and I think they had to change the rule because of be 'cause I tore through these Garfield Books. I think they were just like a limit to Garfield books to read other real books to switch over to peanuts. Yeah that was peanuts. It's too depressing Yeah they take limited to one peanuts book otherwise safety. Yeah we're going to watch you Yeah we're recording on a Monday. 'cause I'm going. I'm going away by the time people here this. I'm away where you going. I'm going to Key West Florida baby. Nice some key lime pies ups. Can I throw up sat? What Key West is that? We're key lime pie. Come from We'RE GONNA go to Ernie Ernest Hemingway House. Nice See all this cat. Six cats can go on the beach. I Mike O. Para sailing paragliding really. Yeah why not because you never have. I know I've never had the opportunity. I've had the opportunity times but this is the first time in a while. I've had the I'll have the opportunity to expense. I mean if it's stupid expensive marketing. Yeah one time my family went on a cruise to Bermuda and I was so excited to go look paragliding. Is that what it's called were they? Were they pull you on a speedboat and you're sitting in a parachute yeah? I've wanted to do that so bad. And they're like yeah. Sure you can do that and then like no we got there. It is now. You're not GONNA do that. Well how old are you? I was probably like I was old enough. I was like twelve or thirteen. Okay so angry. Yeah my parents who do that sometimes. Tell me that that forever sure you could do that. Fight now right well have. The fight wants route possible time but like right but you were going to. Even they said no you were gonNA fight again once you got through on one side. Yeah Yeah it's too windy. You need the wind up safer. Calmer too dangerous right. I could just drop like a rock sky. Shorts would eat me a little afraid of sharks down there in Key West and by the way. Key West is known for key Lime Pie. Stirred is what's known for. No it's key key. Lime is the fruit of live down in Key West. Now it's also known as a west Indian line. They guy. I'm not Mexican line. I'm not having Mexican Lime Pie. Or what was the other one new Indian Lime Pie west Indian west Indian line pie having key lime pie because I'll be in key west. Were key key lime pie here. Everyone loves key lime pie on a stick. This is neither here nor there Yes so that's why I'm We're recording early And were altering difference to you the listener right but hey now you've probably turned off the show because it's so boring anyway. Tim How're you doing? L. Area has few of me to say anyway. Tom Were you doing. I'm doing pretty good. Have you seen this show on? I'm I'm a bad person. I keep getting sucked into these net flicks reality shows. Is this GonNa be the the dating? Yeah the love is blind show I watch every episode the other day and they even have the the last episode up really. Yeah the last episode comes out by now. It's already at every episode except one. No I think they did it over three weeks. I think they drop like half the episodes half the episodes. And then the finale episode. This shows great. It's just you're just watching a bunch of sociopaths. Go about their lives. It's fantastic now. Why do you say that because all these people are meet all these people have you're describing every reality show right now? Yeah I mean this. One is so the premise of the show for those unfamiliar is they got like a dozen. Two dozen guys doesn't two dozen. Women is straight men straight women all around the same age all like in their twenties thirties. Also single the real world a little bit like it because all the men live in a house together and all the women live in a house together although apparently said the interesting thing about the net flicks Reality shows is they cut every corner possible. You have you ever seen any other reality show now. These go further. Because you think they're all living in the same house because you see them all in the same big living room with pool tables and a big kitchen but apparently they were sleeping in trailers outside the whole time like that wasn't an actual house So anyway they spend. They spend their days where they sleep. I Care I want them on their on their game. They say like okay now off to my bedroom and you see this nice house so you assumed or this nice living room you assume they have nice bedrooms than they don't they They spend their days shifting around different rooms where there's a wall between the rooms and they're going on blind. Actually blind dates were. They cannot see the person they're talking to on the other side of the won't see things though way mean like no you can't see their body and their food it's not an actual blind. No not the room is lit. It's not a darkroom. Although this whole show has like the worst lighting I've ever seen on television. It's ridiculous but they're they're in a room of this show that you live. That's the only reason I'm watching it. I wanted lighting. I watched the show and just scream at the television the entire time. So they're going on a date where they can't see the other person there's a wall between right and a spend eighteen to nineteen hours a day going on these different dates with people. Let's not enough sleep. No that's the thing. There's sleep-deprived okay. So then at the end of the day apparently they they rank like who they liked and then the next day they get to spend more time with the people they liked you know if if they both liked each other and the premises after not that many days like five days maybe five days of dating people twenty hours a day after this they then after overly in less than a week amassed over one hundred man hours of dates well exactly so then by the end of it. They are prepared to propose to the person before they've seen I spoke to so they proposed in some cases in I think five six cases the people the the men proposed and the women accepted and then they get to meet in person for the first time and then they go on a honeymoon essentially or like a vacant married no not yet gonNA vacation to Mexico to Cancun for some key lime pie with Mexican limes They go there for a week and then they go back to Atlanta and they live in like a condo for a month with the person While they're planning their wedding and they go in like meet each other's families for the first time but every single one of these people as they're talking you realize pretty much. Every person got out of a long term relationship about six months ago and has extreme baggage from that relationship that they only really tight. Anyone gets married in their twenties. They only really talk about it in the confessionals. Not I'm sure they talk about it in the rooms but now they can't show twenty hours of people talk to each other it's Netflix. They've unlimited ads true but the guy keep an entertaining keeps spicy But it's great is these people are all maniacs. They're all they all have a wide variety of different Mental illnesses that you're seeing Betrayed on the screen that Not Mental illnesses like Allen some cases. I'm sure yeah but like mental mental illnesses like narcissism not like Depression or come on out. Well Yeah but you're not seeing that Bear itself out. You're seeing Narcissism Barrett self out amongst people and like codependency and Their insecurities and stuff and Boy makes for great television. Let Me Tell Ya I. I don't like watching people who WANNA be on. Tv though well that's what people like watching actors on TV in presumably. They're like yeah. I'M GONNA try out for this scripted program And I WANNA do it right. Well that's the thing I couldn't figure out when I started watching the show. How are they that now? Like candid cameras. Those people don't let me just know they WANNA be on America's funniest videos. That's what I like. None of those people wanted to nobody like you know what I aspire to do. Get socked inland nuts. While but then when they heard a hundred thousand dollars the people get socked in the nuts on America's funniest home videos never win the prior. Should it's always some kid like mispronouncing penguin for fifteen minutes. Yeah voters always go for that. Kinda schlocky well. The people are right there so it's like they can see who they're voting for man you think any of the families come in and kind of campaign with the audience you know go round shake hands glad that would you like to meet the the baby. That's penguin weird. Do you like to get a photo with that? Baby as a former audience member of America's funniest proudest achievement of yours. Have you ever done it? Mel. Yeah because you don't own the right clothes junior prom series. Exactly you'd show jeans and the chastise you until you get back in the car and driving hour and a half back to any place that you would care about going in Los Angeles They don't bring in the families until the very end. No so those families are their core. Ticking might be yeah. Yeah they could be because that's happened before yeah anyway. What were you saying the shows good? Yeah the shows. I know this is not good. It's it's trash it's it's such garbage. I washed it like all day. Saturday felt horrible at the end of it but then his off so you know I was so mad that there was no That the last episode wasn't up. That was mostly. Why was plowing through? Because I was like I wanna see how these marriages get destroyed promise. L. is hanging out with the mutual friends of ours. Tom We're like should we give Tomica? Thanks for the invite and they're ever ready. The consensus was like It's already so late in beautiful day. He's definitely off doing something now tim this week. We're talking about morning routines. Yeah welcome to the Tim Ferriss podcasts. Or look we're we're your optimize your morning we're our life hack gurus productivity experts. Nobody's more productive than the to it. It's true. Already week we get together to Record one hour and forty five minutes worth of content and and it takes six hours. We get hammered. Yeah well that's pretty productive because we can you know doing those two things separately? But we're multitask exactly. I wanted to do this because Because it is a Monday actually and you know. Start off my Monday this morning. I had a terrible start to my day. I've did so my alarm clock. A very nice alarm clock cost me about one hundred dollars the amount of time that you've spoken about this alarm clock. Well Tim the one hundred dollars you buy one hundred dollar alarm clock. He'd want you to America's home videos years ago. And you talk about every chance. America's funniest home videos funniest home videos. That would be boring. Somebody's so I bought this alarm clock. It brightens up the room with sunlight sunlight what it was a trope in nineteen eighties sitcoms. That right what that somebody would come over and be like you WanNa see pictures from. I'll put them on the yeah. I was with family recently. in somebody showed me pictures from their latest trip There's great the pictures looked curry. There are people I liked and they went to an interesting place and took pictures. And we're able to show us the pictures of the coolest stuff. They saw and tell us a little bit about their experiences. Nice had were the. Was it up on a projector on television television. They connected like a computer or an IPAD or something. Do you think part of the reason why that was a trope was because cameras sucked back. Then it was like you're watching it on a projector. That was a bright enough and he couldn't see what was happening. I don't know where it's now a days. You're you're looking at a four K. TV and everybody's phone takes phenomenal pictures. Tom Year thing is like you don't like anything. Unless there's a technological Ashwan just saying why do people hate it before but now they love it? I think the Sitcom writers were just misanthrope. Maybe I think a lot I think part of it too and this is real. I think people used to take a lot fewer pictures so they would spend more time on the pictures We're just cool. Where would know? But now you can. You can whittled down the pictures and get really good ones. 'cause you're not just showing somebody every picture you took your like. I took two hundred pictures. And here's thirty of the best ones. It's not what twenty four years your aunt Margaret. You know at the airport waiting for the luggage. They didn't take pictures of that stuff. How that's the TROPE. Yeah perfect strangers. But that didn't happen in real life. Then where did it come from? I don't know the sick mind. Hollywood writers so my alarm clock brightens up the room but it also plays and save that that annoying old to wake you up. It plays the sound of birds chirp of that and it's nice. It wakes me up so gradually. It's lovely I used to love that I can't have that anymore. Time while married. Can't have nice things it doesn't that's alarm at different times just doesn't work for two people. Why not we get up at different times and also it does like you need to be like if somebody's in your way if it's on the other side of the bed you know they say like it works best if like you're facing if you sleep on your side and put it on the side that you're asleep on the side of the alarm clock. Hits your eyelids makes there's some Schmo in your way. Well looked him minds. One hundred I found off your wife at appreciate you called some Schmo. No I I say that because it would definitely be on my side of the bed because I bought it. Oh I see I'd be the Schmo your self deprecating. He wasn't being mean to my wife. It's funny that that's where your mind went though to have a problem with my wife We'll talk about it afterwards. She's got a problem with you. I I've been waiting for you to say this because I have a list of things that she wanted me to bring up that. She's been better wait for him to make the I read and then unleashed this idea and put me on speaker phone. She's always on speakerphone. She's not as well. You know about the rules that you've been given. What were you talking? Yes okay so the alarm goes off and this alarm clock. It's like a touch thing. I just have to tap it. And it will snooze for ten minutes and I think it progressively sneezes for less and less time. Hold on what you have this alarm clock the gently wakes you up with a light that gradually comes on Birdsong. Yeah and you need to snooze. Sometimes sometimes I freak. Sometimes I haven't gotten enough sleep and tired. They should cart you off a whole buried in to fill the hole in. Yeah no I'm not proud of it. I don't want to hit the snooze button which will get to when we talk about life hacks but But sometimes I do and this morning I got up. I hit the snooze. I go back to sleep but wakes me up again. I hit the snooze button. Waste me up again. I hit the snooze by wakes me up again like immediately. I'm like what the hell and one of the buttons hasn't been working right Saw some hundred dollar yeah. He's crap turned out there with God. Damn outside my window yeah. There is an album who who kept waking me up and I clock towards an apple. Allie was saying who because he didn't he didn't inspect further. No because I didn't know what the hell was going on until I heard like flat pop pop pop like big flapping happening big flap in a happening now. That sounds like an hour to me. And you gotta move are terrifying. I'm not afraid of bears UNAFRAID. Sharks of als and squirrels now while and how can help you with your squirrels problem though? So the end of my enemy is my friend. It's true no you ever seen up close. Yeah have you though. Yeah like field trips. Yeah I saw one just standing in the road at a campground. One time like a year ago. I still see it when I close. My eyes. Sows aren't going to go. After you they go. After mice you'll mouse mousy described Frequently as Massey so yeah. That was my morning routine this morning. I don't think you know what well it was. You might have heard an hour one time. That's not your morning routine. Well I'm Ashley Look into to get my morning routine more streamlined. Because my more entertaining right now is not great. Here's let me tell you what my morning routine is a wake-up the first thing I have to do is put clothes on and take my dog outside to poop and or p you should just learn how to use the toilet. I know how to use the toilet. My dog doesn't Oh yeah okay Sometimes I have to pee before she came and go out which kind of feels like a jerk thing as she's like. I woke you up because I have to go to the bathroom so bad now. You're going to go first. Yeah she wakes you up sometimes push you around so I mean he wakes you up before the birds in the wake you up sometimes only really when she s the poop when she has poop she can't wait down she's got a huge bladder. I think that never is a problem. But if she comes over is like we gotta go out she talks. That means pooping. So I go out. I take her outside of takes about ten minutes or so. That stinks I would resent my doug. Well don't get a dog. Then I mean I don't re- I'm not happy about it all the time by. I don't resent her. I don't blame her. Yeah but you can not blame her but you can resent her. You can resent the fact that this is your life because of her. Yeah but on the other and it does give me up out of bed because you know I'm thinking well if I don't get up she's GonNa poop on the floor and I'm out to clean that rather just go outside. It's not terrible. I think you've hit your limit for the number of times you can save poop this this episode thing so we'll see where this goes later when I get further into my morning routine So it's really going to know. Actually let me let me clear the air right away. I don't normally poop in the morning cool. That's all you need to say that it. I wish I could which I get on that schedule so I walk her. I come back inside. I make six cups of coffee really well like you know what what they say are cups. Yeah which is a cop. Six is the measurement of a copy. Rug Right it's a Mug of coffee With that I put four of the six cups into my teeth. Sixteen Ounce Thermos Aleve that thermos open so cool down a little bit. Yeah I knew sometimes sometimes sometimes is open it at work to to let it cool on And then I have one cup of coffee usually while looking at social media or something and then I go and take a shower and get ready that way and then I meditate. If I have time for twenty minutes and then I get up and go out now some days. I have to move my car in the morning and those days I move my car question Have you ever thought of being proactive in moving your car? The night before It doesn't really work. I'd have to change my whole schedule to do it that way because the way I do now. Moving it from a spot where it's fine until eleven thirty. A. Moving it from there to a spot that you can't work eight to interrupt you there. I regret seeing the question and I withdraw Yeah I mean I do have to move at one afternoon a week one afternoon a week two mornings a week. That's when I have to move my car around and then again. The subway go to work and then when I get to work. I drink coffee that I made nice. That's my morning team. What is your morning routine? My warn Tom no I screwed it up already my morning routine my alarm goes off. I have an alarm that I set on. My phone goes on your phone. You have like a thing on your desk or on your nightstand. I did yeah and then. This is embarrassing in K. The AC or the DC adapter like got screwed up. Yeah so I had to buy a new one but I haven't and it's been like six months that just a a an alarm clock that's not plugged in has been sitting on my bedside. Jago radio shack. They can fix that image of Tom. Get this there. Used to be a radio shack right near my apartment. It's not there anymore. It's all right to cool his machete. Remember they thought that was going to happen. Yeah Anyway. They thought having the Word Radio in their store My alarm clock goes off at five. Fifteen guy soldered things for me at Radio Shack. I was very appreciative. Diddy then try to get your address Now this was like before they did that kind of stuff. I think they really turned into a weird business while they were like. Hey this is a. You can get stuff that you need here. Really Niche store. But we're a chain and we got we got all different adapters and converters. That's what we do here batteries. Yeah you're a you need something electron and Weird and small. We've got it then. It would just became a scheme to get your address and phone number so they could sell it to people. Were trying to get you to switch to sprint. Yeah nobody's ever switch to sprint. One person has ever switched to sprint. Yeah so this. One time I needed after that they didn't have and the man Sold me all the parts for it and then built it himself with a soldering iron Is like in high school. Really what did he? What were you trying to make some sort of weapon to know? It wasn't a weapon. It was a is. I remember you're always threatening to kids at school. Threatening anything it was a it was a power adapter for like a Webcam and I don't know why I didn't even the Webcam though Just on my desk. He's American Pie we're like I got an idea. Yeah no forget. Why if I remember while I'll let you know later. Please interrupt me no matter what I'm saying. Okay my alarm goes off. It's five fifty six. Am That's what the time you get up. I see sometimes bound outta bed. Change into my running clothes. I didn't say by the way I get up at eight am okay must be nice news. Go to the gym down the street from my home. Every day I run for a bit Couple miles come back. Take a shower meditate. It's about that time. My wife is waking up I'll make myself some OATMEAL. Oh put some blueberries variety slacks but some blues on. Sometimes I'll put on like What's big record? Willie Nelson Stardust. Yeah you're listening to that in the morning. You say. What's a big record? That's a big record of listening to In the morning. It's it's it's a nice thing I'll do that so sometimes I'll drink the Athletic Greens before I go for my run. Yeah Take my variety of medicines or the three dozen medicines that keep me alive. I take some Some vitamins vitamin B complex. You get that shot in your but right yeah okay. A team comes over. Every screaming need three people to hold me down. One person. One does range and At that point I'll I'll get dressed. Brush my teeth actually. I brush my teeth before. Usually I brush my teeth before the run with a with a hand held she regular after. I've had my breakfast. I'll use the I'm glad you made the noise. The electric and then off to work for me. Round eight am okay. That's Monday usually in Tuesday high. If I stay up on Monday night anytime after nine pm just sleep till eight o'clock on Tuesday rush. Maybe shower put some clothes on and just like walk out the door. Yeah I was GONNA say to You. You're talking about Friends show Garfield the cat earlier. do you hate Monday? So a Garfield does. I don't hate them. I fear them. How well you know me. I don't like having to do anything right right. And like this is This is not a I remember when office space came out in the nineties and it was the joke. When if you won the lottery what would you do and he'd be like the lottery. I'd just do nothing like I think. That's what I would do. I was visiting a friend of ours. Just had a baby and The the Our friend she was saying. Yeah like it's Gonna. It gets like really isolating because I'm just like the baby sleeps a lot during the but like you know but it's it's just you don't you don't do anything array. It's it's a lot of active time but it's got to be at the ready. Yeah and I was just like nobody's asking you to do anything except for the baby like. Why don't you just watch? Tv All day. That sound. Great. Yeah Oh what are they doing? They're like they're not watching they're not TV people. They're better than that. Tom Come on did a TV. Yeah but like I think. Most people are like that where it's like. Yeah No. That's that does get monotonous like a lonely and yeah I mean I'd just be like Hey I think you just TV I would watch TV if I had permission to add like head in a food. Cb going right. Susan twenty-five years don't bother me. I'll I'll eat the food to watch. Tv See your primary concern. Is that people would bother you. The toll bother. I'll eat the food to Cellini alone. Yeah Yeah No. I don't hate Mondays but I would rather I would like it. I would like a world when the Monday never Jesus asteroid smashing into the earth. No where like the the weekend my leisure time with last forever but then I try to throw myself into the week and I feel frigging great on Mondays because of this. But if you wake up before six am You can't go to bed at like eleven thirty and then do it again in the sauce. Yeah so I- spink. I'm the worst person on earth and then maybe Thursday. I'll get it back but right just in time for the weekend comes. That's what I don't I mean I you know I. I'm lucky in that like I don't have a nine to five but I don't I like Mondays because usually by the end of the week. I feel like I've screwed up everything like I've just gotten like off track with everything that I meant to accomplish that week so I on Sunday Mos like. Yeah Alright Monday here. We go all right another my life around. It's time to turn everything around for good. Yeah and that lasts until later that day on Monday. Yeah then sometimes. It doesn't get that sometimes by the time I've got to work. That's gone away but after the break we'll discuss how to not fall into that pitfall yourself you're listening to the complete guide to everything the podcast all right. So you've heard about how our morning routines work I don't know why I'm doing this episode so Like talking I'm telling you man we're all thrown off. We recorded late last year. Just frigging recorded sick of it we did. We did just record Let's talk about What What experts say you should do instead of what we do. Now you're ahead of the curve. At least you're getting up early because some of these people they wake up at five. Am Yeah I'll tell you Bob Eiger wakes up at four fifteen. That's the CEO of Disney. Yeah Walt Disney son Bob Eiger grandson. Walt DISNEY'S GRAND MICKEY MOUSE'S GRANT. Well a grandson of Mickey Mouse and Walt Disney Bob. Eiger four fifteen. Yeah what time does he go to sleep? I don't know see that's the thing they don't tell you. Yeah but some of these guys are maniacs. Like They don't they sleep like four hours a night. Yeah also see. This guy wakes up. And he's what in his sixties. Yeah Sam Wakes up at four fifteen he probably goes to bed at like eight thirty or nine but anyway he wakes like exercises and then like he has a an email and phone blackout until he's done his morning routine again if I were him. But what if they're like what if there's a bunch of emails that's like we lost all the star wars movies. You mean like email him in there. We can't find him he's not GonNa lawsuit would know where they are. Ceo The CO doesn't concern himself with east. Yeah well that's usually what he says. Have you checked the Disney Vault? Then they do yeah. Sorry that that's precisely why I'm right. He gets a lot of emails. They're desperate like five emails. And then the six was refounded. Tricking Donald Duck's grandson. Just like we all star wars idiot. Check the Disney vault three. Give all the the. The movies was going to say that. That's like another In the original muppets they locked him in the vault although decay. Otherwise I think I mean the K- filthy clothes. They don't they. Don't care close fall apart. I still wear my army uniform from curry. And that's stolen valor. I've told you that multiple times get discounts at the mall. A lot of people so like I did some research into people surprisingly even more effective than us their routines and one of the big ones that a lot of people have is like no screens in the morning. Don't check their email. They don't I'm assuming since this it in practice doesn't matter but it's part of the reason why I like having an clock and say the alarm on my phone because my phone is in my hand before leaving conscious. What's your turn off the alarm like well. Let's see what else is on this dopamine vice. Sometimes I forget to turn off my alarm just immediately go into like forget why I picked up my phone But but I'm saying that I you know I. I like an alarm so I don't pick up my phone right away. That delays me picking up my phone by about three seconds so in reality but I would love to change that behavior when he not this. Okay Ki- like I'm not gonna I'm not gonNA split a bed with you and especially not you and your wife. If that's what you're GONNA ask first of all. Why would you rule that out all of a sudden and second of all? Why would you think that I was going to say that? I thought you were going to say because you're like I have an idea. We'll start sleeping in the same bed and then we can keep each other in check will keep our our phones on each other sides of the bed and you'll have to ask the person for that terrible idea. I feel like we would fall into a routine where we would just hand each other. I was like I want my iphone. He wants his phone right. We're going to do this and we're both be passed off you know what a surprise. No we're not going to do that every morning. Yeah and then probably your wife would start getting real upset. Like why is he still sleeping here? If you guys are GonNa Pass your phones over my head every morning. Anyway you'd be long gone What do you think about putting the phone in the other room? I mean it's a good idea right. Yeah and guess what? I don't have a landline. You have a landline. Yes because I'm just like well. No I need my phone. What if there's an emergency someone needs to get in contact with them right and if my in the other room unreachable for eight hours that's not that's not good? I've been ridiculed every time brought up the idea of getting a landline in my home. Yeah yeah by everybody. I my wife by my parents and I'm just like you guys are the reason I had the idea for a landline. Your where got the idea of being anxious about everything of you raise me this way? Maybe worried You should get a landline. I mean I am just like a box that I plug in. That makes my google voice number a landlord and then it's got a regular phone plugged into it. Do you get a any. Like spam calls all the time Is it as widespread as spam calls on your mobile device I don't think so. I think it does filter decent amount. I I think you can also probably just like the phone set. It of like only you know rang if it's only if somebody's died of favorite number or whatever Oh No no no I have it set up to do is if it's an unknown number. The person has to talk to a robot before they can talk to me so it asked them. It's like you know a hat. Is The robot assess if they should put the call through assesses that it's not that it's a person I don't know a robot it seems to do fine. Can you said your phone to be like? Hey don't make any other noises but ring if the phone calls coming through I don't think so I think do not disturb is if somebody calls twice in a row or if there are a favourite I think So that would do it because you could just keep the sound on. Keep in the other room But then have on. That wouldn't wake me up but hook it up to your Sound system now. That's I mart thing you've ever seen her life is a quake. Yep terrified also my stupid both for work and at home. I like if somebody buzzes. It rings my. Oh yeah yeah so like New York City and it people are always coming and going air parliament times that I know like some you know Alcohol hits the Button yet like trying to get into a building like At work you know just like a building in Manhattan. Yeah somebody's GonNa be buzzing just up to no good Buzzes my phone buzzes. Your phone when somebody's at work trying to Buzzer. That's not my life. I gotTa just smash this make me Yeah maybe I don't have a problem with my phone at night really like I don't look at my phone in bed all that much now that I do in the morning like I will. If I'm tired and on my own I got a bed. I Mike well let me check every social media network before I get up another tip about getting up. Turn Rollover before you get up in the morning it was a tip for. Doug's yeah was tip for rover when you roll over and get up from your stomach you're paying less strain on your back and neck cares. Who CARES TIM? The Bob Eiger prior roles over every morning Bob. Eiger rolls over for nobody. You Watch your mouth. Here's a big one that I wanted to talk about The idea that you should try to set yourself up to make as few decisions as possible in the morning in the morning is when your willpower at its greatest. You've recharge your willpower because you can depleted apparently Need a pleaded by making decisions. So if you don't have to make decisions in the morning if everything's kind of set up young have to go. What do I want for breakfast? Who WOULD WANNA wear today? Oh should I make my bed or should I make my bed You'll have a better day my Monday morning Tom. You said an instant pot. I make my oatmeal in the instant pot. It starts It immediately starts cooking. Yeah at like Like five twenty so by the time. I'm up it's it's ready. The Coffee Starts Bruin. Before I get up I got my Got My shorts. And my my Running gear right next to my bed. Right says something you believe in say sleep in your gym clothes. I'm not GONNA do that. I'm not a frigging maniac. But think about it if you wake up and you have to like get out of your gym clothes to put on other close. Yeah you feel pretty shitty. Yeah see forget it. I'll just go to the gym. You know what I need. 'cause I've could name a few things you need. The toughest thing is is putting the shoes on. You know like like. It's the most time consuming. Clark Howard laces yet. The NIKES gotTa Mash supposed to have him. They have them. They've got shoes the paralyzes now. They're expensive and they will work all that great. You have to charge your shoes every night but they do exist What do you think about the idea of wearing the same thing every day? So you don't have to make a decision the morning about what to wear. I love it However I do the the similar thing of the siding the night before no I have eight shirts or knife. Six shirts that are appropriate to wear out. I have like same amount of sweaters pants and like anything goes with anything right so like anything. That's clean I can grab input on. Yeah that's that's me for the most part. I don't have to expend that much willpower deciding what I'm gonNA wear. It's like these. Are the the shirts eyewear and there? Really? Aren't that many of them. You're the three pairs of jeans that I wear Naoto. Resign yourself to be that guy that everybody knows just like has a few shirts. Yeah a couple bears fine. I mean I don't talk to anybody at my work anyway so need I should really just start wearing the same thing. Every day probably does make a lot easier. I kind of I hate that. Things turned into like life. Hacky here's how to achieve ultimate road dominance. Yeah we're synthetic just be. We should all like in college. I wore the same clothes all the time. 'cause I just wanted to have a uniform down. I wanted to be like a cartoon character right one. That's what people say about school uniforms for like a private schools and stuff that nobody feels the need to join a gang right. Which was Need I often felt in school because we are allowed to wear different clothes. I joined the hells angels. How you dad me. The necker young's members and especially surprising considering. You can't ride a motorcycle and I'm tougher than all of them. They don't think how the Hell's angels are that big of a deal to kill that'd be hunted down later this evening. People are hearing it. Say this but they they have already heard before the the episode like On this week's episode we just want to make clear that We had some fun at the expense of the hells angels We respect them. They're the toughest guys on earth going. We meant no disrespect We are hells angels fans all the way. It was a joke because of how much we respect the hells angels. They know that of course we will be terrified of them. What about this one? I hadn't heard this one Podcast so it's like it just a programming note This was taped before the death of so it's like Oh they talk shit about recently deceased. I haven't heard that because I'm surprise like pull it. If your podcast man you can't pull it. Don't put it out if you've got a record. Disclaimer cut that part out of the thing. Or what? If you went out on a really sweet riff if it's about somebody who's recently brutally killed then save it? That's why we only talk about people that were never going to die on the show like me and you Oh the one that I had heard before instead of hitting the snooze button have yourself a big glass of water Apparently that's supposed to like wake you up no like you wake up. Naturally dehydrated do know that okay that makes sense however because also seeing people saying most people wait to like drink water until later in the day. And that's wrong. You should be drinking like first thing the morning I I see that making sense. I think that's but that's like saying like instead of going back into the warm. Embrace of your slumber. Get up and run a few miles. Yeah of course that the other thing but like well the opposite thing was Jennifer going back to sleep? Don't go back to sleep and do something good well but drinking. A glass of water is a lot easier than running a few miles. It still harder than going back to censure but I have never ever hit the snooze button and been happy F. You're happy in the moment but you never wake up like. Oh that ten minutes was just what I needed. Sometimes I set my alarm early knowing that it's GonNa take a few sneezes. Yeah but then you know that going into it but the psychological effect is like if I said it if I know like okay. I want to get up at seven. I'm going to actually set my alarm for six ten. You know I can see news a bunch of times and then by the time I wake up. It's like fine enough of this waking up every eight minutes and your wife is probably furious and Shave is really my motivated forgetting up in the morning to the other things. I read about like this. This goes back to when you're still in bed. Stretch out in bed triumph. Stretch like make yourself real big. Apparently that helps scares bears away to yeah and take a big breath like a real big breath. I wish I could then Bro. Blow that breath out like you're blown out birthday candles. They say Kay couldn't hurt couldn't hurt. Neither of US could hurt. Is that so it makes you feel excited like it's your birthday? It's my birthday today. And it's by the by the time you actually get up. You're like it's not my birthday. I think it's more of that. And if I heard drink a glass of water so I'm not going to go back to sleep. I think is more about getting a bunch of oxygen Getting like get yourself primed up with Oxygen Winston. Churchill woke up at seven thirty every morning even when the war was happening. Yeah come on. He stayed in bed until eleven. When the war was opening his staff came into him he ate breakfast and read the newspaper. Wow it's a miracle that He wound up being the Germans So they say That the the main thing that most successful people have in common about their morning routines is is it. Yeah okay I read that in a Tim. Ferriss Book Guy But I believe it especially these days. I think I think that's going to be thing. I think I'm going to try to do that for like two weeks straight. You said you do it every morning. No I do it on Monday night. Sleep until eight. Am The next Especially these days like just like like everybody. Shut the fuck up. Yeah just let me to sit here. Yeah that's great no no stimulus. Yeah if you'd be like it's four my health. Yeah no it is it is and that is Yeah aside from so I do it almost every day and aside from the like good effects of of actually doing it there is definitely ineffective like okay. I need to make sure I have twenty minutes in the morning to do this so I have to get everything done because I'm going to give this some importance and it is kind of that Like settling down before the day starts and Just kind of having a relaxed before anything even happens. Yeah I love it. It's great not lazy. I need to relax. You haven't even done anything yet from getting my brain tune back down so it can read back up There are a lot of articles written in like the newspaper now like of magazines. Yeah the Ma the magazines that are like Kirs head of be like apple and Google right okay. You know those those magazines no. Oh yeah like a fast company and like ink and stuff and they're all just like here the morning routines of successful people that you should emulate Richard Branson Goes into the US famous virgin. Yeah he swims The perimeter of his private island and then does does some kite surfing before playing tennis And that's how he starts every morning so you should do that. If you want to be successful like Richard Branson just swim around your private island. Kite surfing. I don't have a private island after I'd have to swim around Manhattan. I think they would take me Most of the day probably kill you. Die Of for ten different skin would melt off your bones. Yeah Anna tour Start She's the editor in chief of Vogue. Tom She's the she's the devil that Wears Prada Let's never been confirmed that slander She at five forty five. Am She an hour long tennis match? Trae what at the Mid Town Tennis Club in New York against who some sycophant key probably so if that four forty five. What time does she wake you? Let an underling let you beat them in tennis every morning. Yeah five forty five five but also like she wakes up into probably carried to you know to to her limo. Well she's not carry but yeah there's a car waiting for that takes like Kevin Costner carries. Whitney's the bodyguard Well that would have been probably if she just walked herself our apartment. She would need the hour of tennis every day but that's why she doesn't. Tash she say so thin. She's very thin. She wears big glasses. She does big thinks she wears those while. She's playing tennis. Maybe keep her is protected. Yeah you have any other Are Those two successful people's routines you have mean and tour Richard Branson Winston Churchill Bob Eiger. Oh that's four people. I forgot about the other ones Jeff bezos doesn't check email in the morning. He has breakfast at home. Yeah by a it probably has Alexa Telam. What's going on? Yeah exactly yeah sporadic Alexa. What's what's going on. She's like here's what I found you. Bald dummy what and then he's like what am but then what's he gonNA do fire. Alexa right right well. And then he says this is what she said to me. This morning directly checked the logs. There's nothing about that. He's like my losing my bald mind wondering too. So do you think like Jeff Bezos? Must have like a team of trusted people under him right. Oh Yeah of course what if they all conspired to make him think he was losing his mind. Yeah I mean they could but how the attend any their interests five. They have enough stock. I'm sure that they could live a thousand lifetimes. Like it. King just like him right. Why would they WANNA make them believe that? Just to take him down if you now because these people love them that's how they got to that position Now he's their boss. Nobody lives there. Say I bet the people that are right under him. I that they've been. They've drank the cool eight thousand to put him in an Amazon Prime Bucks. Ship them off to Abu Dhabi. Which is what Garfield what to do is snoopy with neural normal. Garfield ever read snoopy. Maybe your mantra that I meant Odi. The don't do drugs. Universe is pretty rich. You know like it was like when the Ninja Turtles would meet heathcliff. Yeah near what the how. The sizes don't even match but this is like we are the world over the wish kids there now right and they're all animated poorly all kinda. Don't like exactly right. Yeah I don't think bezos people would be interested in Well yes or no reason to take him down a peg. They take them down. Some new guy comes in and fires them all and gets his own people in there. Now maybe they can make him think he's going crazy and they can take over. And then it's like I'm bezos. Now Yeah but then at some point they'll turn against each other also in work all the time and everything also in work because one of these people would tell basis. What's going on? And then guess what something. Have you kill that guy say so now now? They're getting into murder again. For no reason take Jeff bazars data guy who all these people directly under him are millionaires because of him. Yeah but enough billionaires. Probably even silence and they're probably like enough is enough if they're like no we. Wow this crate. I'm so rich and be enough for these people. I I agree but I don't think any of them are going to decide on their own. Enough is enough. Let's start gas. Lighting Jeff bezos to drive gracie. Veiling points you make Tom the view like the show you find out more by going to. Tc G. T. E. DOT COM. You can follow us on facebook. Facebook DOT com slash complete guy falls on twitter at complete guide? Follow me on twitter and at Tom. Arnold Saudi at your paths in. If you want support the show go to. Td Dot com slash Amazon Amazon shopping and checkout patriots dot com slash complete guide for our secondary Pocketbook supply. Gas To this week is week. Two of Reading Papa. The story of Papa John's by John H Schneider Schneider Shatter H schnatter I'm reading it. I'm telling him all about it He's a great man that was Unfairly cast aside by society. I thought you're saying man. I've talked about Baba John. No He's not a great man. He'd sucks and pay US money to find out how Patriot DOT COM SLASH. Complete Guide Tumor you get. Are you walking away with any new morning routines any anything? You're going to put into practice. No because I know what I have to do. I know what makes me like? I do it once a week right. And it makes me feel great. You know what I need. I need a nighttime routine. That works for me. That will convince me that. It's okay to you know that that'll get me well. One of the one of the popular nighttime routines from these maniacs is At night they make a list of everything they want to do tomorrow. You ever do that now because you're thinking about tomorrow it's like I'd liked it as a joy tonight. Exactly like at some point if everything becomes so goal in achievement basis. When do I relax just the twenty minutes that I've allotted in the morning for meditation? Yeah well if you want to become a billionaire which I know you've frequently said you do the reasons required. The reason is ladies because I don't want the next day to come. Yeah exactly. It's I'm sure it's not GonNa make list where I have to think about the next just GonNa make it come even faster. It's Megan listen that immediately. Go to bed so it comes right away. I guess one of the ways become a very productive person and not constantly be afraid of the next day. We're all working hard. We all right We'll see you next week. That was a hit gum podcast.

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#205 - Burial Practice Makes Perfect

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#205 - Burial Practice Makes Perfect

"Monster House percents. The death. Death is inevitable some furet some hope for it some deny it and yet it comes. Death is the secret subject of every episode of Monster. Talked the silent lurker waiting patiently in the quiet between our words and this episode. We're going to talk about the ways that the living have dealt with the dead over the ages how individuals deal with death is guided by how cultures and society deal with it in the history of the handling of human remains takes us from the sands of Egypt to the gardens of Europe to the very edge of space. This episode won't be for everyone. Statistically some of you will will be in mourning right now and may not want to ponder on wounds so raw and open and we understand. Perhaps you can come back to this one later when your grief is not so urgent. We'll be here. We're sorry for your loss last weekend. Thanks to my good fortune to work for an amazing company. I found myself in Key West Florida and I was able to get up before the rest of my family on Sunday morning and do one of my favorite things. I got to go walking alone in a cemetery. A few blocks from the hotel where we were staying was the key West Cemetery. It's a beautiful but crowded homes more than one hundred thousand dead or the three times the number of living residence on the island. It's a storied place and tranquil L. A. Walked among the graves I see joggers and bikers out past the gates. Dogs barked at their passing. Black Roosters pecked among the graves here. And they're striking striking memorial a line of poetry or some shockingly close birth and death would arrest me and my wandering all reminded me of a recurring theme that I've held onto since. Yes I was a teenager whether beautiful macab graveyards for the living quite unlike anything we've ever seen before giant. Mary look miss a twenty four mile long. Harmless Lake in highlands. Reach your known as the Loch Ness Monster Dole. Aw Welcome to master talk the science show about monsters. I'm Blake Smith and I'm Karen Stolz now today. Almost your talk. We're talking with Tana Owens Orman a friend of both Karen and mine who's turned her fascination with the culture of death into an academic thesis. Some people get interested in this topic around Halloween but for many any of us the very active remembering the dead in the accoutrements of the funerary. KEEP US in mind. This fleeting gift of life. The whole topic is a Chunky stew of mourning grief hope ceremony process resolve and inevitably the contemplation of the meaning of it. All but this is nothing new and humans have been showering the dead with custom and ritual for longer than written history. We can't deeply cover five thousand years of global cultural death behaviors saviors. But we'll talk about this a lot in this conversation. Where the death is a liberator that takes you away from horror and pain or is it expected fiend? The snatches you from your prime. It is the monster that we must all meet in the end. Warminster doll love the topic. Yes and I'm surprised. We haven't treated this topic before I mean we kind of touched upon it. What is the topic and who are we talking with? We're talking with a friend of mine. annuals the Tana Owens Omen or should I say now or Tanna. Tanna Owens is the name of under which you can find my thesis and under under which I did my Grad work so the now or minute sign. Name of my thesis was paying respects Death Commodity Culture and the middle class in Victorian London and I have a drink because he was he said Victorian cow. So we're GONNA be you talking about beliefs and customs related today than burial known any in Victorian London but in general. But that's quite broad. It's very broad. You could talk about it forever. I mean just get. We'll Karen spin around me another to know that. This is one of the subjects that I could start. Talk Talk Talk. Just keep going he calling absolutely and I think permanente perspective. I think Although if you met me on the street I don't think anybody would think I look Goff but inside. Yeah I'm I'm inside a well. I always used to say when I was in high school like a brain by Byron Body. You by BUBBA. Because I look like a big redneck but inside. I'm a skinny dark-haired angst filled teen even now into the by tying to prevent I've never golfed but Some people might think I'm weird because of the interest that inhabited the subject matter but in my best friend was more the Goff Minnesota Cure Senate gop light. Yeah it was the guy is the God sensibility. I mean this wandering around graveyards writing poetry and all that jazz you know and if you happen to listen about house or whatever that's fine too well I dyed my hair black when I was about sixteen. That's awesome and so everyone thought it was a goal in highschool. When I wasn't I just I wanted my head to be as duck as it could possibly be and a a hairdresser recommended just I who blue black and so I did and that just labeled me for quite some time? Also I like the Q.. Yeah me too and you don't you don't have to smoke clove cigarettes cigarettes the time Will there you go anyway. Oh that's just culture signaling. What we're talking about is the real deal? Why a deal? I think we should stop by asking you Tana and and I know her as Tana so you probably say ten Sir I just always Cole who that pronounced Hannah like Montana. It's not short for Montana. That's riches what I tell you it. Maybe it is. It sounds like Like Tanna warrior the wasteland. I mean it sounds like a fancy name to serving. I'll that that's awesome. I've never had anybody say that but I do occasionally run into people who were like I know a Tanna and it's Strange because because there are so few of us around it does sound like an epithet. Now that you put it that way Tana ten how did you become interested listed in cemeteries well practices in customs. I guess I was always interested. Well ex start off by saying as a kid. I so scared of lots of things like a horror movies. I was absolutely like deathly afraid of horror films on his big chicken. One of the worst things my mom ever did was. Let me watch poltergeist as a kid. and Gosh I just I would have horrible nightmares. And also the BLOB. The nineteen fifties movie the Blob also gave me really horrible nightmares. So I was big chicken but I was also Oh really interested in history and I got interested cemeteries partly because I was in this program in elementary earner school where they actually took gifted students and they put us together on Fridays for various schools. And we did certain uh-huh Learning modules the modules. We did was. We actually had some class because place got four Cacho which is in San I. Angelo Texas sits an old Post Civil War Western Frontier Type Fort and we. We learned a lot about history there. One of our sort of projects was we got to go out to the big cemetery in San Angelo and do grave for updates and and that really sir sparked my interest in cemeteries and. I don't know the rest of it. You sort of grew over time. It was just related needed to my general interest in history and this interest in cemeteries in sort of what you can learn from them what you could see CNN what you could touch them. Even do these grave rubbings and over the years it developed. That's that's pretty much it I I just started doing reading myself of the fact that my stepsister and she's younger than me became a funeral. Funeral director is completely independent Euro separately so he actually did not develop those interests together. The other I was well into my interest and she was embarrassed by the time we ever met some some people think. Oh a stepsister. Is a funeral. Director now was a completely independent interest. Price put something in the intro to the show because I think deaths one of those topics in what we do with our deceased loved ones Or are deceased enemies or whatever you know sooner or later we all have to answer that question. What do we do with the body and bright but for some people are coming to? They'll be coming to this episode with death fresh fresh on their minds. Somebody that they care about what passed for some people it will beat. Maybe they've been fortunate like me and I haven't had anybody die in a while and I go. I rolled back back to my natural state. which is I find it fascinating in an abstract way but don't want to really think much about what happens to it to people I know and you know the older we get the older? We get well as I'm so practical I keep telling Kathleen We're going to cremate right. Yeah so it's like we're done really simple peple but but that's there have been so many ways to deal with body disposal over history in maybe you could just take Could we do like a zip through history really fast. If like some of the most common ways cultures have dealt with dealing with their departed. There are few types are burial areso cremation exposure. And those are probably the most will the ones you're gonna hear about the most. I mean there really aren't art a whole lot of other options unless unless you're talking about sort of offshoots of those three main types like type of burial versus Ritual cannibalism fit in cannibalism would probably fit under disposal. I guess so. Okay because this it's allowing the body to be consumed by an outside source. which would be people as opposed to most else disposal which would be eaten by birds or other animals or just worn down by the weather usually it disposal cases? It's GonNa be predated by things like flying birds in sex and then someday both I can think of the Romans in particular earlier the since the Romans settled in London and were some of the first sort of true London neom inhabitants. They actually practiced dispose. You would see burial you would also see cremation than you would see Kerr mation in. which the ashes were then ritually buried? Read a little bit of which came. First Gosh I don't know probably oh it had to be exposure right because we when do we master fire. You have to do that before you can create a Took me about permission. I would say burial is probably the thing we have the best evidence for. Obviously if it's exposure you're not gonNA have anything left generally in order to see uh-huh this spot where they left out bodies exposure while Blah Blah burial. That remains ha remains in what and that didn't come from Blake for one I know. Wow yeah occasionally I come up with the PUN. My husband hates it so burial burial is obviously the thing we can find evidence of cremation. We sometimes find those but if they did commission and they left the body out in the elements in the ashes. Were blow away. The Pires who blow away everything would burn down. Mariel certainly had its advantages. As far as sanitation we know the religions Judaism Islam both WANNA get their bodies of their dead buried varied. Sap within twenty four hours usually and this probably arose from a standpoint of Sanitation Minnesota's body. Soon as a person dies he started to compose so the quicker. You could put a body in the ground. The less bad it was for other people so as far as exposure to germs or rot or anything of that nature Historically Fosbury wasn't always he's the process. you've got some coaches where bodies were laid out and visited than people might have had an open casket for some time so proper burial customs. I don't. I haven't really done much in the way of researching that I don't know if there was any type of funerary sorry productions involved in Roman burial Roman Cremations of DC went through ceremonies and religious religious practices. But not necessarily what we think of in the modern day and this is sort of prepping a body and having people visited the home and people bring the funeral potatoes and things like that. I have to Interject Jack I I happen to know for a fact I ran into this online. where big swath to the country? Don't funeral potatoes are I need to. Yes so we need a definition I think or I could try but I've never I've never seen him in the wild. I've seen him on pictures. Like people literally have Thomas Products called funeral funeral. Potatoes are sort of symbolic of and I. Don't I see this a lot in the south when somebody dies people just bring being the food. I mean that's not just strictly in the south of people bring food to the bereaved family and for some reason there's like this particular blend of potatoes that came down his funeral potatoes in. It's usually a mix of diced potatoes and cheese and sour cream green yet looks it looks. It looks like comfort food in a big way. It is tough. Yeah like a Mac and cheese for the day Hedo Mac and cheese right eight without the pasta. Put some potatoes so yeah funeral potatoes Pasta too. Many people would be making pasta mortem jokes so we don't want that so oh definitely in the Western world ways and I'm talking mostly. UK Britain the gathering people to mourn born the ceased the laying out of the body in the home is pretty modern modern in the sense of last couple hundred careers or so. It's I find it interesting though because even in the NFL. Burials there were burials with you. Know Trinkets and things that whether they thought they were going to afterlife for just this was some stuff that belong to the person or or whatever. There was clearly some level of ceremony the sort of distinguish the way that humans deal with their dead compared to animals in general. I know I've heard about elephant graveyards and that sort of thing but in general enroll animals die and you know they don't bury their dead and they there's ceremony but humans have fetish is the whole process with all sorts of cultural roll acute treatments. In it it seems like it's wildly divergent around the world. How we deal with death not just in the sense of emotionally but like literally how we prepare the bodies how we celebrate their lives? You know all those things like is that part of what your research was dealing with yes Humans are unique in the fact that we tend to take great care of our did and we found H. It should peoples who buried and especially. If people were high-ranking we found people buried with all sorts of accrue chairman says as you say Jewelry Animals sometimes so bury their own animals or in the case of the FAEROES. They bury their service. You know you'd entomb people that is your servants is the afterlife. So Wall. Burial wasn't always necessarily a drawn out process Generally been evidence of care across most cultures. Whether it's you know Washington wrapping the bodies were buried with particular mementos bearing with a loved animals either just marking graves in general also. We can revisit now. Somebody who's deceased so very humid thing and it's something that all humans fed to deal with and especially once you had what you call civilization and where people were living in concentrated areas you had to Put even more care in to disposal of bodies because suddenly and the disposal. You couldn't just bury him wherever you we happen to be for the day if you are nomadic or what have you. Although some cultures still do that I was actually in Kenya just a week ago you and we were speaking to some tribes people from the Samburu drive and I asked how their tribe handled old deceased people and because there are nomadic tribes who only lives who basically they're pastoralists in they follow pasture They moved with their animals. They moved with these small villages and families. I say what do you do with Saudi dies. How do you handle the body Nieces they bury them generally just wherever they are. So in that case they'll take care of the body and they'll bury they won't necessarily ever be able to find it again because they may not on live right 'cause they may never live in that area again right so some people still do that. But most of us limited set areas We live in cities when somebody dies. You have to get rid of the body and and you can't bear it in your backyard in most places that's illegal It would also be very sketchy so yes bury them incision a centralized place Usually in a cemetery or have them cremated. Or what have you there are very few options in the US besides burial cremation. There is one city limits. Come crestone Colorado where you can actually be burned in an outdoor funeral pyre. That's Viking awesome. What has been inactive for a while? It's it's it's somewhat artsy sheet small towns from what I understand and people will actually move there because you have to be a resident of I think the county for a certain amount of time line. You can't just send your body there and have it. Have that you have to earn your cremation done. You have to. You have to live there to earn the burn. You are the bird to be to be a political sluggish xactly. So yes so if anybody really wants what's be burned on a funeral pyre Easter Research crestone Colorado but as you mentioned the US are understand that in England you can basically buy good cardboard cardboard box in as long as the land you could be buried on it or something along those lines. I heard it was fairly easy to get a a simple just a simple organic coffin. Burial Israel in England and I heard it so obviously avenue I specifically really I heard it in two places. I read it in article which is not technically hearing and I believe I also heard it from Chris Lackey on the pod the crafts podcast where they were talking about. He was surprised that you don't necessarily have to have a coffin for burial so there may be some ordinances around where you can vary but It's clearly much less strict about the groundwater issues in all the stuff they sites around cemeteries in the US. So I was about to say there are some myths about out Burials in the United States as far as cemeteries for instance embalming is not required. It's not legally required. A A lot of people think it is a lot of sort of unscrupulous funeral. Records may lead you to believe that is a requirement and it is nuts and what isn't bombing involve embalming is essentially. It's a formaldehyde preparation. And basically they make a cut in. I think it's abundant jugular vein. They put a thing. That's the scientific name a thing Basically basically if they use a noun verb the hell out of you asked if I my stepsister would know what it's called since she's done it before I think it might just be called an embalming needle and essentially they push all the blood out of your body and they replace it with a solution that's essentially formaldehyde and Stalls decomposition air was originally only used when you saw earl at Souda nineteenth century in the modern world. If you stretch the definition of embalming you could say the faeroes embalmed bodies mummy's burial but they did it in a different way which is somewhat people to guess yes added involved drying out the body natron and removing the Oregon's and it's still somewhat serious. How they did it? And I think few other cultures that did sort of early version of embalming but modern embalming as we know it really nineteenth century the development of practice and it really took off in the US as opposed to the UK were did not take off and it preserves the body long enough for viewing or for shipment and when it was advertised especially in the nineteenth century they would say oh look we sent this body from one of the colony's this'll be England course. We sent the body from some New Zealand or Australia. All the way back to London and it's perfectly more or less preserved and they would say they look. It can save the body for four weeks or ever have on without without starting to go through a decomposition period now funeral in order actors funeral homes. They just use it to keep a body. Basically looking fresh reviewing to a funeral and most most people assume that it's to sort of get rid of pathogens from the body or something and it's not it was a matter of fact there's a certain turn against him bombing because it's a lot of toxic chemicals essentially in embalming fluids who is not good for anybody and some people are actually concerned about burying bodies. Because they say that can leach into the ground especially Ashley it's not sealed properly in a casket anna vault but most people still do it because it's just sort of become accepted practices Russians country thinking. We should do a topic at some point. Two on the incorruptibles saints yes. That's interesting I I wanted to mention that the the idea if I understand correctly is that if a body zoomed and has not been embalmed mummified are treated in some way and somehow appears to still be fresh despite the passage of years. That's one of the signs of possible sainthood within the Catholic tradition. I I don't I don't know how that started but it's a really interesting belief. It reminds me very much of when I was growing up in my church community. It was generally frowned upon. If you wanted to be cremated did because the idea was that when Christ comes back he'll be raising the dead and you you WANNA have a body so there it is raise it can be but it always seemed weirdly faithless in the power of a deity that you're if this deity can create the universe pursing create life. How could it possibly be a challenge for it to put back together your body? I don't understand you know but but that but that was the belief in fact Exactly yeah it didn't really matter whether it makes sense it. It matters that that was culturally. The accepted norm. And so you were considered a Weirdo if you wanted to be cremated so oh. I'm a Weirdo Weirdos to sell as are my parents my grandparents at least is to more both committed but yeah I was thought that was a strange argument because what if somebody is torn apart meet my lions it does. Does that. Mean they can't be resurrected. What if somebody dies a plane crash in essentially are smashing atoms are burned to death in a fire? There's all kinds of yeah. Yeah which served. It isn't a fire which is exactly what cremation is Eur Lex the pomp and circumstance. But yeah they they. They just didn't think things culture man. Youth Culture so Christians were actually very anti cremation for longtime yeah. I think there's some evidence for some early cremations in early Christians in ancient Roman some of those other areas but and the church in general was very intense cremation. For the Zachary's new state is that it seems to indicate even if you don't want to be resurrected bodily or that she don't care and actually in Britain and there was a movement for permission late Nineteenth Century Commission was not illegal but it was suspicious. There were people who objected both because the religious reasons and also the people feared that. Oh well if you WANNA cremate body. That means we can't figure out if if there was foul play involved so that suspicious if you wanted to cremate your relatives maybe you kill them now but They would actually there was actually a group called the cremation society and they would engage. Occasionally in stealth cremation basically out in the woods and and people would try and stop them and then they face scrutiny. And what have you eventually cremation. Explicitly became legalized regulated in a believed nineteen. To in Britain in Britain cremation is much more popular than it is in the US. It's on the rise first popularity in the US but in Britain because they're like a space. And because I think also partly due the fact that they tend to be less evangelical religious. And I don't mean evangelical the term just in Turin Evangelical and local acceler Baptist Evangelical. So I think that's part of the reason. Also it's more popular there. The Catholic Church said nineteen sixty. Three I think is that around the time of Vatican two council to here. Yeah the they accepted cremation. It was funny the way they put it. It was like as long as you're not denying that God can resurrect you bodily or okay formation and priests a couple of years later we're actually allowed to perform ceremonies shore cremations. Well I wonder if it was looked down upon to because it was was used in some of the colonies places like India and he knew countries in the house thinking in terms of How some countries like in India hell? They'll from eight people and then through the ashes into the game. Jesus something I added I wasn't that practice of I think it's called Santi And we don't who would come with the hired. Her husband. Yeah yeah deemed illegal but only in recent decades or recent ease. I believe those kind of things still. Have you ever heard of cases where it sounds very romantic in in the in one incense unless the woman doesn't actually want to be burned alive which case it sounds harsh into it by a relative but I always heard it as the wife. I never looked into it but I've always heard it was. The wife killed the husband. If the husband is alive the wife dies is does he not get the same treatment and you can get married again. I know Oh that seems very unfair. Somehow I don't think it was customary for the husband killed just the wife and I can. I can definitely see the in Victorian England. They're being as sort of racial element of they burned. Bodies in those Places like India and savage. We're much we're much more culture than bats because so many victorians that kind of attitude. There's an interesting tidbit. I learned from a friend who researched food are on the same time. I was researching death which is funny because those are sort of things that everybody sued in six death everybody the subjects really interesting. Nobody likes taxes. Things econ avoid now things that people are interested in when it's your research shopping. People are very interested in legal. Stop talk about data talk about food or talk about sex. Some people are suddenly perked up like ooh. That's interesting. 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Is this this month's monster talk selection to download your free audiobook while also supporting this show just go to audible trial dot com forward slash months jock and sign up. Today that's audible. Trial Dot com forward slash monster talk. We could go on so many in so many different directions with this topic. I wanted to ask you a little bit since. He focused on Victorian London if we could talk a little bit about Victorian practices surrounding surrounding death and morality. I've always been interested in Memento Mori jewelry And things like death photographs. Can we talk a little bit about that. And what audit in your research so Memento Mori the jewellery in particular. You're talking about Jury became very popular. It was very popular thing to have locks of hair from the deceased jewelry made at a jet which own a business. It's Onyx wasn't necessarily ask popular because jet. They could easily get in England. I believe it was a whitby. Beat jet which I mentioned that my thesis which was an area in England his jet is obviously. It's made from driftwood. Basically they created created a thing from burning pressing driftwood create. This jet jewelry and we'd be jet was was considered the best and so you had jet jewelry hair jewellery do elaborate hair jewelry reese made of hair air or lockets pair usually with black ribbons lack tassels or jet or on Serb later black glass it was cheaper than jet This would all go along with your morning. Where and let me clarify that? We're talking about mostly middle class. Upper class practices here. The poor couldn't really afford this kind of stuff. I mean they might keep locks of hair. Whatever from a the person who's deceased but this fancy jewelry? The black mourning silks photography. This kind of stuff was sort of out of the price range short of the poor and the really working class. If you read might visas it goes very much into sort of. What is the middle class? It was there are a number of unsatisfying definitions but it's basically related. How people are what their relationship the means of production? You can see more about what the Danish in the middle classes if you look at my thesis but basically in the middle class was not the working class and they were not the aristocracy so they are a range of people from low shopkeepers. Shoe you wealth Factory owning magnates. Who could be richer than aristocrats? They just lacks the actual aristocratic blood. The titles right right and often they bought those titles as time went on so they eventually you would see a lot of eventually enter the aristocracy. Any you've been into the royal family by buying their way in which silver from very well could so it was this group of people who are targeted by Mike People selling funeral memorabilia and there are a lot of elaborate rules around things like wearing morning. Dress Queen Victoria was England's most famous window. She stated morning for roughly forty years at the death of her husband husband Prince Albert and she is part of the reason why people believe there was this romanticism Because because the very pinnacle look the nation Queen was engaging in some sort of elaborate warning and wearing black doc ID actually read about is not just with the dealing of the dead like hell to dispose them but also with some of the requirements for how long you had to wear black black and having to put up black crepe all over the place just it Denison the music and it was a culturally expensive thing. I I mean it was like really in. There was an elaborate. I guess commerce built up around a very much a nineteenth century development as a a lot of commerce was you started to see really the era of things like department stores and catalogs and all. This is happening at the same time when people are finding new and novel ways to deal with new and novel ways to sort of show their social status Funerals became a way to show social status sub. You would hire hearses. You would hire horses in the horses. were ostrich feather black plumes and people would wear black crave the black silk and you would hire these. People call commutes who would actually act as he silent warners that were not related to you in any way shape or form. They were just these guys at the undertaker taker would go out and say. Hey I'm gonNA give you you know. Twenty Shillings Ugo being mute for me for the day. And so you'd have these weird guys dressed in black top hats Black silks like following the hearse. And such a you're just there as an cooter mind and into show how much money you had how important you were just like. It sounds like of the red of a hammer film. Sorry this is some kind of mean getting around on case Boakye was. I'm offering to turn up funeral if you pay them. Now when you die they'll turn up wearing black and crying hysterically. Something to put roses on your coffee. Yeah Yeah uh-huh not speak to anybody. Leaves mysterious make any noise though the mute actually actually from a tradition I think it dates back to Roman Times. I think I might mention that. In my thesis The idea of a mute observer server at a funeral and burial fidget is almost like Pink Panther this actually. It's interesting because I always think of but I think of mourners in the paid sense like I always heard about. I think it was the Greek mourners. Were you know. It's like wildly overacting their grief but this is like more somber and quiet quiet. I like this. I like this a lot yet issue. Don't overreact anecdotal but I know of a family in Ustralia and bear young Some died and the mother apparently threw herself into the the the burial ground and was crying hysterically hysterically and everyone was just very emotional. And in the kind of thing you see in movies and TV that kind of thing but it sounds like it was over the top morning quite literally top Venice. I guess it's one of those things. Where in addition to how do we deal with the bodies? How do we deal with their own grief? These are all inextricably combined topic bright and there was an element of public health as well in the nineteenth century. You saw a lot of interesting science. Basically people started blaming dead bodies for all sorts of ills. And they can't really be blamed because the state of cemeteries in London in the early mid nineteenth century was not not very good. It used to be buried. He will win. Once upon a time. You'll be member of perish and your Paris church. You know you'd be baptize this area. You Grow Up. There will be married there than eventually. You die period the parish right there churchyard and after after certain amount of time as Grew and grew the amount of people in any given parish grew grew grew and set delay. You would marry somebody and then you bury some more than you bury similar. And then it's all filled up so you'd have to check out some bones of people who've been buried well long enough basically to decomposed and you take the bones out. Put Him in a charnel house or in a crypt and then start bearing being more people and over time you're GONNA start leaving. Bits of people ha and there are a lot of public complaints. You'd see newspapers newspapers magazines about the state of churchyards at how disgusting and gross they were because these people claimed you would see bone sticking up random skulls of flies coming up and generally causing very unpleasant state of things around these parish church yards And then as people came more interested in science they began to go. Oh well we have these diseases that are happening and we don't know why you know what might be happening. These dead bodies giving off my asthma's ASTHMAS and they're making a sick and so we have to do talking about this and Paris. Paris related adversities big cities Paris head. You know vast overcrowded cemeteries and Dan in In the mid eighteenth century actually started discussing what to do and in seventeen ninety. They started disinterring. A lot of their municipal cemeteries including one call. Lucena sants which I think was their biggest cemetery in Paris and they took all the bones out and stack them up and they made they built the infamous catacombs which she remained a Paris initially on tours the categories underground where they've done very artsy things with bones am. I've actually never had the opportunity to see this but it's on my list list for death related tourism. I think my husband has been but I have and you go under there. And all these phones or elaborately arranged and and they're marked with sort of what year they were disinterred. What cemetery they came from and they built and designed the first of what's known as the Garden Cemeteries Perilla Shays? If you've ever been to Paris you go visit parallel chase. One of the most famous residents is is Jim Morrison of the doors Oscar Wilde Oscar Wilde. Is there the lady saying Libyan Rose Edith. Piaf is there. Chopin is buried there. It's sort of a WHO's who of Parisians Non Parisians At open opened in eighteen. Ninety two I believe and it's a beautiful cemetery. You walk through. Its these wide avenues. These above ground two's which were very trendy in the nineteenth century and as far as they were concerned this helped the general public tales of the city and so basically in London ended up doing the same thing? You saw churchyards close. You saw the opening of these. He's quote Unquote Garden Cemeteries of which the best known are short. Haired called the magnificent seven highgate cemetery is one of those house. Although it wasn't the first and Highgate is high best now in popular culture from the highgate vampire legend prior. That's that's on our our our bucket list to cover all the show we. We've literally been talking about that for like what seven years we're going to cover that. I don't know while I think he's he's Lincoln ten years. So highgate hood is beautiful. And I've been there and it's gorgeous and one one side of it is really wild overgrown and you have to take a paid tour in order to do visit it. They as far as I know don't bury anybody else in that side. The the other side is open in leads. East side his car Marxist buried so his the much later marker this big bus Karl Marx is data tourist attraction movie lover in like The amicus movies tales from the crypt nineteen seventy two. They the There there's like a wraparound story to connect the Vignettes in that movie The wraparound story is filmed in highgate. It's got some beautiful shots of the now I having highgate sexy been fixed up quite a bit. Since the still really cool highgate highgate fell into disrepair for a long time and there is a not for profit. A group called friends of Highgate cemetery than I think is really done. A lot of work to it. Restored it back to its former glory. And it's got the circle of Lebanon and Egyptian style very expensive for the time tubes their above ground at sort of above ground Dan below ground that sort of hard to explain. But if you see it you'd understand why me I I think I know what you mean and so this is the style. All that has influenced cemeteries like the ones in new Elaine's the our remember the names of them. What is symmetry one? Two and three or something Louis Cemeteries one Shit Yep Yep Yeah Saint Louis Cemetery. Number one is the oldest It's the one that's actually closed. What you economic murder love It's one with Marie Lavaux and Nicholas Cage bought and built this pyramidal tomb. Although it looks ridiculous anything Nicholas Cage US whatever ridiculous guy but apparently when he built at two. He actually gave a lot of money to help with the restoration of Saint Louis number one cemetery so while his to look somewhat ridiculous he did some good Because a lot of that stuff is if there's nobody to take caravan it starts to crumble indicate you see this all these grand garden cemeteries after awhile. People's families die off. Their families are no alarm wealthy. They can't maintain these places Mister go out of fashion and when you go there is crumbling to and notch in easy rider. I think that was saint. Louis cemetery number one. Okay Yeah I took it. It was it was. I just actually just read about it yesterday. Because Easy Riders Hitting Its fiftieth anniversary in. They talked about the film there without permission analysis. Nobody's nobody's allowed to film the right. We can't get enough to three PM. I think yet. It's tour groups when you go on a yes I went up. What else would tour groups? And it's very very hot. If you summer yet in August it was just horrible. All those those tombs were above ground. And you know what they'll say is because of the flooding is the water table and there's a certain amount of truth the two that when you have flooding in an area like that yes conference can raise the ground. Arise out of the ground float float away but he was also very much style among a very particular class of French influenced upper-class people is they were doing the same thing in Paris at the time you on the WHO's who Paris. They were building these above ground tombs in places like parentless shays so you also saw this happening in New Orleans as well so there's a little bit this more to the story mentions the cemetery's flooding people are GonNa float away. I mentioned to when we're prepping for the show. I don't know it might have been like eight years ago. I forgot I got this. I got this idea in my head that this may be was based on a myth or there was some mythology or methyl will they were around the idea that that it was strictly because of the water table. And one of the things destruct me was flooding lawar tables exist all over the world but New Orleans is place. I know that really celebrates that. Here's our solution. We have above ground tombs and I am and so. Do they have these in Holland. How do they deal with it? And so I started doing these experiments simultaneously doing library research in I. I realized that there definitely was an increase in style. Around the time of the Spanish governorship of New Orleans and I found multiple obscure academic resources that claimed that that was the real reason in that the pop- coffin thing was amid. Now I WANNA table. You don't want to bury a coffin in water. You know water table so high when you dig you hit water. Of course it makes sense what I did. Though I did some experiments spearmint in sandy soil in us the the biggest fish tank. I could get a scale replica. Basically after the equivalent of bearing into feed I couldn't get a substitute a model to pop up and I was using things that were extremely buoyant like empty plastic water bottles and You know to try to get them to pop out and I couldn't get to work but at the same time you do definitely see during hurricanes and flooding you know. It's not uncommon to see Cemeteries washed open coffins. Pop Right Up. You know that really does happen but you have to have something happened in the water table to push up from below. There's got to be a lot of pressure coming up to get one to come up out of the ground is really interesting though. It's much more complicated than the simple narrative. That's that's taken root and I think that yeah. I think that their explanation is actually the lowest 'cause like the bigger causes cultural than the physics. But boy they have leaned into hard. If you go down there do similar showers and absolutely I can key west as well that they have that same style that I heard that. Yeah they have the water table in Florida in general in a lot all the time. If you find a cemetery it'll be on a hill which is not much of a hill. It's really funny human-made Hill right now. I mean around Orlando. Oh I you know with the Navy I was there for your explored a lot and went to the cemeteries and stuff and I thought a lot about that because flooding so common down there but key west has got really low water tables but somebody's key West cemetery epitaphs things like on told you I was sick and let me say short with Ripley's right that Kinda thing I'm just interesting night is is another. One apparently snowed humorous epitaphs. Sick could do a whole show adjust on gravestones and certainly the evolution solution of grave declaration. a lot of cemeteries in Australia comparatively new the old ones are kind of nineteenth century related. You don't get trying. Pat Certain styles depending on religion and Depending on the age of the person who died. And it's it's really a lot of people would look at it as Morbid. It's fascinating too. I go into that quite a bit as far as the symbolism my thesis that I can talk about stuff sort of beyond that what I've seen on maion invoices I've seen Australia. I've seen the Melbourne general cemetery which is interesting because it's kind of the late nineteenth century up in it's of course still unveils a Lotta. These nineteenth century cemeteries in Britain. Are I actually still unused the oldest one of the garden cemeteries in London's cancel agree and I've actually gone there and it is still in use. They're still buried people. They're obviously not the right. They would have in the nineteenth century. But it's still you'll see fresh grades. They're still a date part of highgate. Hi Gate is still accepting new. Burials and obviously if your family has shown something for generation generation generation you can actually Ashley still use it. Can you reuse a plot. Because I think that's what some of my family members have done in Australia but this is going back decades ago and I just don't have that still Waigel two-way highgate. Worked at least when it first opened high cancelled green these other ones. You generally buy a plot. It was the more of a credits and you could buy like a really deep one. Say Twenty five feet down or so the and you can stack the people and you would just every time you would reopen the grave. Every time he wanted to put somebody somebody new in there so when you look at some of these cemeteries I mean they have one hundred thousand people in in your. IRA stacked one each other. I don't know if that's the way it works now and guessing not is. It's not really paramedic unless you have a sort of a mausoleum tight I the you can been you know. took the compensation usually on shelves I. It's probably not like I'm picturing it but I'm imagining the most morbid game. Some of Jenga F. I mean that's the way it sorta the way a win. They've put him in dirt on top of them. How was it up? Then they can put somebody else on in eventually. I would assume some coffins would cause the person buried the longest downs prompted squished but no casualties. Right casualties talk. Let's hope nobody Aaron Alive. Oh my God but what if they had have been truly. They could put a bell on their coughing. Oh the bell on the coffin. I hate this I thought that is something that there there. And you can find evidence that somebody actually put patents. People actually applied for patents. One is the best. Now you'll see the Indorama somebody with a bell coffin and but there's no evidence in anybody really used that and there's no evidence that they they really went beyond the patent point and sort of from these drawings people got this idea that was actually a common thing the you actually saw it but as far in my research ag- never find any evidence that anybody ever actually actually was buried in a coffin with bell. It's really interesting. That's that's such a widespread. If it is a myth which I just you you mean. We've the cool thing about talking about here. Is We're going to get a lot of responses to that. Because I know a lot of people love that story. The people being deathly afraid of being buried alive I blink. Po has his his story about being buried alive. Right is is that just compounds. A bunch of stories about people being buried alive. It sounds like it's a true story story. I don't know what is behind this fear. Is it a particular glazed that was rampant at the time I would like to Becky. Losses Sub Sapir peering dead. But actually being sick in rural will say something like being buried alive is a long standing handed human fear The idea of being in an enclosed place. You'RE GONNA die. Nobody can hear you listen criss angel and and there were stories where people would claim that. Oh so it's an honor that I think was sort of urban legend. Christmas time is somebody who is buried alive there. It was GONNA be no reason to dig up so you would never find out that they are very live. But there's also stories about people finding claw marks on the inside Call is which may or may not be true. I don't know that some of the Earth we have been think law than nineteen eighty pizzas reversion. He's kind of religions so the bell thing was never is from my research. I never actually saw that put into practice. They did. You'd have also people who would pet ninety s for air tubes so then if somebody who's accidentally buried alive they would have an ear to did they can open in thinking grease to my stuff turn until they don't know so. There were apparently so cemeteries metairie that had described him. Resting Stations. That you win. Sit a coffee for KS veal macachek DOC and check and Mitch or did. I don't know how often that was actually used or if or if that was somebody's explanation for something after the fact changed but yet very why was a fear but there's not a lot of evidence that happened with any frequency or the people related through these sort of elaborates ex post mortem facto. Yes so so. Yeah Yeah and saved by. The bill is a term that comes from boxing. The animality of that term is very easy to trace so something something that it's linked to these bill coffin's no it's linked for boxing it's an easily traceable etymology for sale by the bill. And and another thing. That is one of my pet peeves that I'll see things shared on facebook or whatever. Are these cages. You'll see over burial royal plots. He's a lot in her Scotland. You will see them in some other places as well and they would call them more face. It was safe but the basically they were these metal bars that were intertwined. And you put it down over burial spot and it would go down three four. Six feet is basically to stop people from digging up bodies it. It was not as I've seen explained in some things on facebook. And what have you to keep people from coming back as vampires useful so that would be great robust people wanting to steal resurrection men people resurrection as people want to steal. Gaudi's people wanNA steal stuff in the coffin. People wanting to steal the hardware from the coffin. Serve themselves because coffins were during this great great renaissance consumerism becoming very expensive items. They'd have brass copper nickel fittings. That people would actually see they'd steal the nails They'd steal the name plates that go sell the scrap metal so the coughing itself was often a source valuables as will salesperson inside whatever else say with and then of course the bodies themselves which they could sell sound too medical students or an My family raised hogs and there's this saying in the hog industry You know you can use everything but the link and That sounds about the same. Although I heard when it came to criminal prosecution that it was common for the resurrection men to strip the body naked in. Leave the clothes stuff because it was not like a death penalty crime to steal the body but it was a crime to steal all the great stuff. It was a crime skilled by nothing else. He would You know he would not be socially acceptable personality for stealing bodies. That was just bad and people were afraid of it. It and you know you had what's said again. This interest in science really seem burgeoning. The eighteenth century particular and people would see all these bodies provide them to medical schools. Medical students. People just certain learning abby on their own like in their house Sir to Barbara like these surgeons of. Oh yeah the bid Franklin at the early pioneers of medicine really but they couldn't get bodies bodies and because people thought dissecting human body was immoral They didn't want that to happen themselves. Els or to their relatives and he couldn't just you know take bodies of paupers and stuff until later would eventually that became family. Oh so in. Because so many bodies were reinstalled often it was not like the wealthy people necessarily use bodies would be still when I may be anybody really. But the resurrection men would generally go for the path of least resistance and trying to dig up poppers tra- bodies When they were after actual bodies not what was on the bodies? because paupers were often buried either shallow or mass graves raves. So you know they bring in the grays easiest to get into if they wanted the body in seventeen fifty two because because of this problem because public outcry there is actually a murder act passed One of the parts of the murder act was AH executed. Murderers could be taken for dissection as opposed to being hung out in public sir hanging in the debates. Or what have you people who need embodies for study could take these bodies and and eventually even that was not enough and I believe eighteen thirty two. They passed an act where a relative could either donate a body as long as sort of be quote unquote proven. The relative didn't object in this time. It'll happy for illiterate and could of signed documents to the contrary and they would also take bodies from like the work houses at Houses and as long as they they couldn't find anybody to claim the body or anybody object. Thank you take that bodies section. So that was that was not very long after Birkin hair here now that was actually burke. Hair were the ones that became so mound and then there was another. There was another crime like that not long long after that really really pushed them to allow our bodies to be available for medical action. We should probably I don't want to turn this into a true crime podcast but we should probably quickly mentioned what they're very clever. Innovation wants for solving the body shorter wait for people ability to kill the first couple and they had a particular doctor that they would take the body to they kill him. I think the first one may not have been an intentional certain murder just to sell the body at a murder for other reasons but they found this guy and I can't think of his name if you Google it you can find the guy's name. He was eventually a well known fairly well known surgeon they would just get a body they kill. Somebody my This guy for his too. So Birkin hair. They are very welcome case resurrection. Yeah they've there's been several liberal dramatization that could put some links to that show notes some funny some serious. Yeah we're going to say we. We've burned up more than our interview time and I'm not even close the station but yet we should stop. I wouldn't mind just asking quickly about debt autocracy and you kind of touched the bay but I know that there's just a lot of kind of urban legends at their about that and what was a movie with Nicole. Kidman was at others will something and yes. The others. does a depth photographing that film. So how common was that and that is I guess. Taking photographs of deceased family members with live family members. Was that actually done or is that just a legend. It was done sometimes. I think it was done more in the US than in the UK But it was not done nearly as much as people seem to think it was. There are a lot of photographs out there that if you really salmon of the person is not dead. The percentage is just being propped up doc with a stand they would actually use ways to prop people look just to take a normal photograph. They didn't have to be dead to need need something to prop themselves up it so it didn't happen but it was not as comments. People think at least in this in the west and I think that's pretty pretty much where it is a only were thing for some parents to have stillborn babies right right I taken. I know people who've done that. Sonya cure one more question. We like to ask our guests tunnel favorite monster. Aw Oh it's my favorite monster. Oh goodness I really like the Loch Ness Monster. A sport in Scotland was had a fondness. The loch ness monster don't think it exists. But I have been to. Loch ness. Didn't see anything except The little museum with a bunch of for unconvincing evidence for messy. But I would have to say. That's probably my favorite monster very cool. We haven't had that for a while. That's very cool. We I I love it. That's on my bucket list. Not My kick the but I don't. I don't really dropped from an airplane and kick the bucket list which is my regular it. It'd be so good. I'd like to get a Scotland. There's so many places I'd like to go and most of them are libraries. But thank you very much. China decisions. Such a strongly doll. You've been listening to monster talk the science show about monsters. I'm Blake Smith and I'm Karen stole are you just heard an interview with Tana Owens Orman about death practices across history. A link to her thesis will be in the show. No notes check out our monster talk merchandise it. Must you talk not or fortunately store where you can find a variety of products to show that. You're a next level monster enthusiast easiest. We hope you enjoyed this episode of monster. Talk The science show about monsters. 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"Is This Truly My Passion?"

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Take coming up. Next, segment. GonNa Talk to you about. Growing crisis how student loans are making people abandoned their dreams so we'll get to that next segment eight, four, four, seven, four, seven, two, five, seven, seven is the number we started off with Rick, who is calling in from our affiliate in Indianapolis Ninety five point nine, w. f., d. e. m. Rick, you're on the Ken Coleman show. My call yeah absolutely, How can I help today? Yeah. So I I've been planning on retire from my career in a couple of years. And upon listening to you, they kind of dawned on me that I really don't know what my passion would be. So we're trying to figure out what that would be in what would leave me into my next career. So I'm hoping I could get some help with that. Yeah, absolutely. Well, let's let's start the process. What we do is we look at talent and passion. What you do best, what you love to do most when somebody tells me, they don't know their passion. We're GONNA look at talent. I get your brain role because there's always a connection. Between your talent skills and strengths because we like to use those. To do things. So let's go there i. what are you most talented at doing if I interviewed people that know you what would they say? Troubleshooting mechanical trouble shooting. I'm currently in a engineering consulting. Position. in prior experience was actually in the field doing the repairs. And now, I'm just on the consulting side of it. Okay all right hold that thought we'll get to that in just a moment What are some other things you do besides said, top talents mechanical trouble shooting anything else top string top talent. Yeah. So teaching younger. People, you know really like doing that as well teaching what? the mechanical side of the troubleshooting interesting. Now, wait a second we may have just gotten our first. Clue our first entry point into what your most passionate about. You said You love teaching or you said, you liked use the word like how much do you like teaching and instructing mechanics? well, years ago. I did teach for eight years and you know I actually enjoy doing it. I think that the. Exposure, to some people that really may not have wanted to be there kind of. Change that view I guess a little bit. But you know I think for me I I know the only time I really feel pieces when I'm outdoors. doing some things. So tell me. If doing I mean just cutting grass for Francis I mean that's just total total peace there. Yeah. I'm not quite sure I can replace my career cutting grass right? Well, that's good. That's good to point out though but let's still look at what we're seeing here. the idea of being outdoors in general because the cutting of the grass is not that it's just kind of a mind numbing thing for you and I enjoy yard work. Okay I really do enjoy landscaping, but that's not my passion. So. What we're talking about here is What work makes you come alive and my question is is it is it working on? is a working on machines because I heard what I felt like was a clue. In differentiating what you do now, which is consulting versus getting out there, and actually working on an engine CNN, a problem and fix it. Right. So before I actually got to star in it and I would see the end product. when it was finished and now I advise and I don't necessarily get to steal a finished product right? So I get that. But having said that as well you know aid starts coming into factor where you know. It would be very difficult for me to be out doing what I want Don. Okay I'm fifty two years old. Okay. So here's my question. What if you were teaching? And on some level still getting involved in in the mechanical side of things but mostly spending your time teaching in instructing and the students really wanted to be there. I mean definitely I see I'm not asking could you see what I'm saying like what work really fires your soul up? That's what you're trying to figure out work that means a lot to you and I think it's on some level. You really enjoy the mechanical side of it and troubleshooting, and you're really good at that and you love instructing others. So the question is if you're doing that, do you feel like you'll be fulfilled during the week? Yeah. It's It was just a little bit of a bad period. There were I was to some. Yes. They don't want to be there but yeah, it was absolutely a a good time. We're. Yeah, I think you gotta get back to that. You're just like some of these elementary school high school teachers that call in the show and they're they're feeling like they're ready to jump out and when I dive deep into it, what we find out is they love the teaching. but it's either standardized test or the paperwork all the non teaching junk they have to deal with our students in her behavior situation where they can actually discipline the kids in. So no person who loves to instruct and teach enjoys doing it for somebody who's not interested. So you walked away from something that you really enjoy. And there was no reason to do so. You just needed to move locations. See, this is really important. A very important distinction here. Let's step outside of Rick Situation. There are so many of you right now. That are doing the right thing in the wrong place and you've got to be able to get some feedback whether it's calling into my show or talking to some people around you that our objective and they don't have any emotion tied to your situation and let's let's really be careful here before we decide to leave something that we really enjoy and I'm talking about leaving it as a career as a role, you might need to change locations. Absolutely. But just because there's difficult people or you're being overwhelmed. Doesn't that you need to walk away from this. Again Rick example we hear this all the time different scenario, but it's the same example he really enjoys teaching people. So what if he's in a place where? People come in there because they want it to be their career and they're going, I need to learn everything you can teach me rick and now feels. And he realized how valuable he is, and now we got a guy who's a joy isn't skip it into the office on Monday mornings. Hey, coming up for to talk about. The let student loans make you abandon your dream. This says the Coleman show. Folks I like to stay in the know and support great companies doing great things. Have you heard bursts is the sonic toothbrush? Everybody's talking about bursts love by influencers and celebrities not to mention hundreds of thousands of happy customers and me see for yourself. What everyone is talking about birth as the smart choice and it's affordable visit burst oral care dot com, and use code Ken to grab a burst brush vers lowest forty, nine, ninety, nine that's bursts oral care dot com that's burst oral CARE DOT COM. Walking alongside of you is you pursue your purpose I'm Ken this is the Ken Coleman, show The only syndicated national? Radio talk show in the country that is focused on your purpose your significant you're meaning doing work that matters deeply you eight, four, four, seven, four, seven, two, five, seven, seven to the number, eight, four, four, seven, four, seven, two, five, seven, seven. If you knew the show, we are a part of the Ramsey solutions, media empire network the Dave Ramsey, is the executive producer of the Ken Coleman show and we don't. Try to recreate the Dave Ramsey show but we do talk about money from time to time. Because your financial situation. Has a lot to do with how quickly fish. You can move towards doing your dream, work. So I, WANNA, share an article, and then encourage you on this. Some of you. This is GonNa hit you right between the eyes parents. You need to listen to this for some of your kids your kids. That are dealing, with student loans. We know this is a massive crisis college education continues to get more and more pricey. This is an article that I saw today from CNBC Anti Nova the. Writer of this article. CNBC DOT com how student loans are making some people abandoned their dreams. She focuses on a lady by the name of Mary o'meara who has a twenty seven year old son. He comes home from his job as a supervisor at a big box retailer and headlight to his bedroom. He doesn't emerge until the morning she says, he just sleeps because he's so depressed. Now this young went to rutgers university majored in Marine Science and minored in environmental protection policy. He took some very successful internships traveled to our Betas. where he was helping protect turtles. Turned in Key West Florida area where he worked with sick dolphins. Amara said about her son from child he always loved the ocean and he's a really smart kid. When he graduated college he was offered a position in. Florida. Training Dolphins. Now, this is huge young man knows what he wants to do goes and gets the degree from a good school rutgers university in the New York area but very expensive. He was thrilled about the job. Until he started getting those student loan bills which start showing up, you know. And his student loan bill was more than a thousand dollars a month. So instead of working with marine life and doing the work that he's dreamed about since being a kid. He is a supermarket manager. Whereas the salary and benefits that will allow him to pay off student loans or at least be able to afford the payments doesn't say anything in here about whether or not he's making any headway. But, this is where it gets. Sad. This is a quote from his mother. He thinks his life is over he's twenty-seven. Anything's his life is over. All right now let's get some data. Mart Kanter wits WHO's the? Publisher of saving for College Dot Com said the more than half of people who fifty, five, thousand dollars or more in student debt say they took a job outside of their field Compared with twenty nine percent of people that don't have debt taking a job outside of the field they studied foreign college. So, you can see here that going to an expensive. Name Brand College. Isn't giving people a leg up at all. In fact, if you take it on too much debt, you can't even work in your field. You can't even get started. That's the entry points starting out. Your some more details. Nicholas Zaib Barth is the CO author of the research. From Auburn University that revealed. That students with debt tend to be less choosy in their careers. I'M GONNA put that a different way. College kids coming out of school with a lot of debt aren't. Being. Strategic. They aren't being specific towards what they love to do because it's all about getting a paycheck. Listen to this an additional twenty, five hundred dollars in loans. Lowers and individuals likelihood have been employed in a job closely related. To their major by five percentage points. Unbelievable. Sad story here they finish this article out with a story from Accounting Lori, and who said, she always wanted to be a journalist from the age of Eight. I just knew that I was meant to tell people stories. So throughout college and afterwards she worked for multiple newspapers in the New Jersey. In new, Jersey and. Won. Some awards. But her more than seventy thousand dollars in student debt weighed on her and she realized she couldn't. Live on what she was making thirty five thousand dollars a year coming out of school. Now. She works in medical writing for Pharmaceutical Company in the memories of what she gave up, still bring her pain. Wow Final quote. She says, if someone had told me that I could do all this without these loans I would have done it. I would told her. Ramsey solutions would have told her she could have gone to a community college. Those internships and just work in during college alone probably could have got her the job, the degree and manner if you can write. Come on America wake up. Now I'M GONNA. Tell you something. If. You are full of student loans up to your eyeballs and you feel like you still can't pursue your dream. That's not true. Please call me. Because you can get out of debt using Dave Ramsey's baby steps, you might have to work two or three jobs. You might have to make some crazies algorithms to give up on the dream because you're dealing with debt. Please don't do that. There is a way out of the debt you don't have to give up the dream. Let's go to Jeff is on the line in Portland Oregon Jeff you're on the Ken Coleman show. I can think for taking my call. Sure. How can I help? well, I'm kind of in that same boat with student loan although it's with my employer, I did the tuition reimbursement as a benefit by my employer. however, upon completing my degree they aren't interested in hiring me as an engineer. So I'm looking elsewhere and if I don't do the three year service commitment to them, I would be required to reimburse them back. Aches. how many years into it or you? Just graduated. So I got just under three years ago. So you Owen three years of work or you're going to have to pay him back. Correct. But they're not interested in hiring you in the position that you want. Correct. But what position are they interested in hiring you for? Well, I'm currently technician and they're fine with me doing this work but they don't recognize my. which is mechanical engineering technology. They don't recognize that is an engineering degree. For some reason. Is that something? You can't cry over spilt milk feels like that's something you and they should have figured out on before agreed to the tuition reimbursement. Cure I list. I was aware that this possibility but I still wanted to go forward with. My plans of you know getting into an engineering position how much would you owe him? fourteen thousand. That's not that much. No no, it's not. Could you go get hired with that degree right now Yeah I'm in the process and that's actually my question As as I interview and you know potentially get a job offer would that be something I could ask as part of a negotiation no I would not up your you telling me that I hear you right. You're asking of you should. Put in a new position say, Hey, got fourteen thousand. That I'm going to have to show you guys interested in paying that. Well. No I mean I know that there are you know negotiations salary vacation and I didn't know if that was something that might be part of that. I wouldn't bring that up. No. Okay. Because you're bringing them fourteen thousand dollar problem above and beyond that's what you're doing you're. Not, unless they came to you you like if you're in a situation where a company was seeking you out and they were recruiting you, they're going Jeff, we really want you. Then I think you'd go. Well, I. I'm very interested in it but I, Oh, these people this money you willing to pick that up. That's different situation. Okay but no, you go into them. You're basically here's what you were facing. You're facing you either put in three years of Penance, with these folks for fourteen thousand be paid and you don't you don't know what you just work for them for three years doing something you're not really passionate about Ore You go do what you really love which you know you were born to do. You've got the degree you got the skillset. And it's fourteen thousand dollars for your freedom. Yes That's what it boils down to. You made this decision see this was a risk that you took, and so now you know I think you've got to kind of pay the Piper is what I would do I fourteen thousand, it's debt, but I would do it. To just to do that I love. Very interesting situation. Don't move more of your calls coming up here on the Ken Coleman Show. Folks the unemployment rate has skyrocketed and because of that, the job market is more competitive. Now, than ever before if you've been laid off or you're just looking for a change, it's important that you're taking advantage of every tool out there to help you stand out in the hiring process. That's why I'm so excited to announce that might get hired digital course is on sale. Now, this is an online course with over an hour worth of video lessons that will walk. 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Let's figure out what you sweet spot is that intersection of what you do best in what you love to do most talent and passion. We go to Salt Lake City Utah or Thane, is on the line on the Ken Coleman show. I can't thank you for taking my call. Sure. How could help? Well I I I think the last several years I've been stuck. In trying to figure out what to do I mean I've been focusing someone on and off with film but just add like self-doubt them. I. Lack some confidence Kinda Roller rollercoaster for me. Okay. We'll tell me what it is because you real specific about what it is. You want to do if I start my fingers and give you the dream. GIG. What is it? Would probably work in film. All right. Specifically. What kind of work until? Well I already work in film but directing. And I actually have a degree in that. And so what is your current role in film? I'm usually like. Film kind of a tough industry. I work as an art director or production designer. Okay Great. You're able to do that in Salt Lake. Back, I've got a I just recently got hired on for another project. Great. So which is really good. Okay. Well, so Let, me help you with the self doubt. The good news is you're in the industry are you doing the Dream Role? No, but you're in the industry. But you but you're an industry, and so I would I if I pressed you right now my guess is you could tell me what the path forward. Could look like there's no particular formula other than you gotta get point where somebody says all right. They were going to give you a shot to direct this, but they're not gonNA give you a shot to direct it unless you have directed something small is that exact? Have you directed anything small? I have in the past and actually since I've been listening to your show for last few much I've I've pushed forward and I'm going to be sheeting something here with the next few weeks. Awesome. Awesome. Because let me just tell you right now I just think you needed to be encouraged. I don't think there's anything strategic that I can tell you because you know your industry better than me. And I will tell you that I feel like our stories are somewhat similar because the film industry is very competitive. Was Broadcasting. And I was. Running my own business. Husband father and there were many days I dealt with a lot of self doubt. You know I don't really have what it takes is anybody going to truly give me a shot? Do I have enough time? Am I going to be able to make enough money? I. Mean all those things are swirling around your head and heart I'm guessing. Go definitely. Okay. Won't. So here's the deal I've been there. So. Here's what you do when you face that doubt when doubt sticks its head up because it's going to continue to do it. Okay. When it sticks its head up, you focus on doing. Doing. Drowns out the doubt Jenner say what I'm saying. Because, here's what happens dealt is is just like fear doubt Aligarh. So it starts telling us all these lies but the moment you called me, it was really clear in our first one minute on the air together that you know what the Path is. So you've got a direct a bunch of small things to where you build up. Some type of a real and some experience and then GonNa have to use my proximity principle and you know what that is. You've been listening the show in order to do what you WANNA. Do thing you gotta be around people that are directing in places where things happening now you've got the place as part. Yeah I do. But you gotta be a little bit more strategic on the people part. K. And I say strategic strategies not just identifying is actually Forward to get around these people. You're looking for opportunities to meet with some successful directors. They don't have to be big shots but just some accessible directors. How can you get around him? Well, there's always the coffee launch, but there's also hey, I'm willing to come out and work for free for a weekend you're going to have to make some sacrifices you gotta plan this. You got to say no to something else or somebody else, but they can be done. and. That's the only way thing it's going to happen is you truly practicing the proximity principle? You've heard have you bought the book? no. No, I haven't yet. All right I'M GONNA I I've got a plan I'M GONNA give it to you. I'm GONNA give you the book because a book is such a practical clear path for you. And if you just do what I write in the book, you find those people you find the professor, you find the producer you've find the peers you've for you get you get around the professionals by reading what they're doing or watching their interviews online Then you make sure you get a mentor and then the places where you are the place to learn a place to practice a place to perform a place to grow. Dane I unpack what to do. In this book you I'm GonNa, grab it to you, but you got to do, and if you do it, you're going to be calling me in the near future and we're going to be celebrating you step the dream job but this is all about doing instead of doubting start doing. It seems cliche it's not. You can either spend all your time doubting, which is an action. It's all happening between the years, but it's an action. Or you can start doing. And doing drowns out the doubting. Eight, four, four, seven, four, seven, two, five, seven, seven. Let's go to Jellison who's on the line in Long Island New York. Jalisco you're on the Ken Coleman show. Hi Karen. Thank you for having me. How can I help? Well I have what I would consider. Agree Mommy jock allows me to be at home with my children during the hours they need me and I currently work with children I found my sweet spot so I love working with the children. Job That I currently have doesn't allow me to work with them the capacity that I would like to work with them. So my thing is I can. Further skift further education. And pick up. PUT UNQUOTE that debt. Or try to figure out some other means. Becoming, what I WANNA become without picking up that debt sort of speak option B.. So tell me what to be more specific to in ten seconds. Tell me what the dream role is. I would love to be like a a motivational counsellor for children. Okay. Is that in the school system is that in a private clinic type situation be dabbled in a private private clinic private situation not within the school system. Okay. So that is probably going to take some licensing yes or no? and. Not Licensing. Not only within the school system, not not privately. Okay. Great. So you know what it takes to get qualified to where someone could hire you to do that. Correct Great. Well is am I missing something is is additional schooling necessary. Because I, I've been looking at some programs that allows me to get further education in I guess is a master's in human to human and Human Services and counseling but dump saying do you have to have that? Is it required to get that role? Not. That I'm aware of no not that. It's DIFFIC- one. I'm sure outside courses and Okay. So here's the. All right. So here's the you need to be sure like you. I'm not picking on you, but that's the reason why I'm asking you that specific as need to know that you know that you know. So your homework assignment. I got to homework assignments for your homework assignment number. One is to go absolute a go and get absolute verification that neither do need more schooling a lia degree. Okay or you don't to do what you WANNA do. So you've got to talk to people who are doing it people that are hiring others to do it. Do I need a degree? That's the first homework assignment dependent if it's no then great, there's probably some certifications, but this is using the proximity principle like told her last caller just heard that okay. Now here's the other thing. If you do need that degree, you can go part time. Do you understand what I'm saying you don't have to go into crazy debt are you willing to wait two or three extra years in order to get where you WANNA. Go the answers absolutely especially if you don't have debt, right so you can cash flow your way along at your pace. Which means your budget and your family of relationship requirements. So you can folks get that education, but you may have to do it part time as you go don't move more Ken. Coleman. Show coming right up. You're joining the conversation all about your purpose and how you make it come alive in that Monday to Friday work opportunity life's too short. To be living for the weekend, this is the Ken Coleman show welcome one and all eight, four, four, seven, four, seven, two, five, seven, seven. If you got your career question, you're stuck confused scared well, come on. The show for you know nationally syndicated show out there. But US doing this and you've got the answers. It's my job to pull them out of you. So give us a shot, eight, four, four, seven, four, seven, two, five, seven, seven, or take a question from Sharon on facebook we get this one, a lot she says, how do you answer how much you WanNa make? This is in the. Application process how do you answer how much you? WanNa make. Okay. two answers of this. Honestly. And with a range. All right. Now, what I mean by honestly is you know, let's do the homework of what the market is. Plane is paying for a role like your's this information is readily available online not to much research and get an idea of what the market is paying. and. So now you've got yourself a pretty good idea, and there's probably a range already associated with what the market pays for somebody of your experience. In this role win this is established. Now we're GONNA be honest about this thing. Okay. I WANNA make the high end of this range. Or I can do low into this range. But you just need to say this is that the range So you ask you'll ask for some crazy number because if a company's got any kind of salt and smarts, they're going to do the research that our hr people going to know what the markets bearing for this position. So do the homework and then you gotta look at your personal budget, your situation, and so if there's a ten thousand dollar range. then maybe you WanNa make towards the high end in my practical vices. PUT, the high end the put the high in number up there. Okay. If you're flexible and you really just want to get in, give them the range. Give them half the range the high half. So if pays sixty to seventy thousand somewhere that ranch give them the sixty five to seventy. If, you gotTa make seventy one of seventy seventy in there. If you can handle somewhere in between sixteen seventy put sixty to seventy You GotTa know you're up against other people. So you you to be honest and then you gotta be. Really really clear. That you've done your homework so that they know you're educated on this situation. If you want to connect with us on facebook, just search Ken Coleman show on twitter at Ken Coleman on Instagram at Ken Coleman on Youtube Search Ken Coleman Show where also linked in to search can coleman so. Fun stuff going on all the time on social you're gonNA give you some inside baseball. Give you some practical helps and we're going to encourage you and motivate you as well. So check us out all those links are Ken Coleman Dot com eight, four, four, seven, four, seven, two, five, seven, seven is the number. Let's go to Nicole who's on the line in Cincinnati Ohio Nicole, you're on the Ken Coleman, show? Can My question is I'm a victim of immigration crime and I've been thinking for a while to work for ice and I, wanted to know if it's truly my passion Oh. Well. I gotTa tell you. There's certainly some pain associated with that. Was it a violent crime? Yes have you. Overcome the physical injuries with that. Yeah, it actually happened in two thousand thirteen. It's been several years. I WanNa know if happened well, let me ask you this because I want to get to the point. have. You recovered emotionally mean have you seen some counseling over this and gotten as healthy as you possibly can on this? Yes I've waited for a while because I've been in therapy for a little over a year now though I have gone through therapy and I've thought about it for about two years I've been thinking about it for a long time but. Say. my therapist wife had to therapist. My current therapist says to go for it. He says, the reason he does therapy has because you know he has his own struggle. Well, in my wife Stacey says this and I've said this a lot and I steal this from her out of great pain comes great passion so. My initial reaction was well, there's no question. There's a certain there's a huge. Portion of passion going towards this because this this really negatively affected you but you've overcome it and you want no, you want to stop this from happening to other people. So, the question I have is There's no question. The crusade thing is there, and if it's not angry and you're getting healthy and your therapist says, go for it that was gonna be my that was going to be my solution to make sure now I just WanNa make sure you've got the talent to pull it off what's the role that you want and do you have the skill set to do it? So I have a bachelors degree and accounting marketing. So I was looking at business, but also really interested in intelligence. have. You done the homework on on those roles and what the requirements are. Yes they have I. I, usually check their postings pretty frequently just to Kinda get a feel for what's out there and where the country the jobs are for intelligence. I I don't really know. I mean it's difficult because I've listened I've listened to is has a career that podcast or a podcast for careers at ice. and and they actually interviewed to special agents one day, and both of the special agents said, you know, don't ever think that you're not qualified because the ones special agent was an English Major. The history. Okay then then you have checked all boxes for me, you you I said go for absolutely for it, but I just want you to hold out for something that the role itself you enjoy because the mission you're their connection to the mission. Okay. But but but even connected to a mission if you're not doing something that the work that you're good at that, you enjoy within the mission, you'll still deal a build up later. So You keep listening to me and use keep thinking through this you know and I'm giving you the green light and I also want to say. Thanks for sharing a bit of your story because I think you're a heroin and It's amazing to see. You've overcome something tragic like this and you didn't let it get the best of you. You're GonNa let it make something great out of you and I love that inspired by Nicole really good stuff. Let's go to Edward is on the line at Charleston South. Carolina. Edward. You're on the Ken. Coleman. Show. Candidates man they man I'm doing well, how are you? I'm doing pretty good man I've been listening to you for about almost two months man I really appreciate the service that you're doing I. Know I, listen to a lot of things on Youtube and McCarthy of inspiring and trying to find passion but nobody really gets into the Nitty Gritty and I'm noticing you're getting into the nitty gritty so I appreciate I like that. So how can I help? You got about two minutes All right well, makeweight man trying to I'm in the discovery phase trying to find my passion. I have a hard time finding what I'm good at. Been in that. That's that's about it. Be Honest with all the tell me what forget about the what you're good at first second dream. What have you always dreamed about doing or wondered about? Well. The thing Willie wonder about by business I actually have an online reselling business that I currently have right now. I enjoy doing it But as I knew it was pretty vague but that's about it is okay. Yeah. It is having having a lifestyle in which can be able to help people and be able to have an income to commit my life I think you're I think you want to own Your Business and be an entrepreneur that's what I think. My right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Without a doubt man I I like the freedom of being an entrepreneur. Sometimes you know I was listened to. The other people that you have. You always have self doubt if you're not smart enough, you don't have the actual four skill set that you need in order to be successful but here's the deal on you. Do I think it's troubling that you think don't you can't identify what you're good at. So here's your homework assignment. Okay. This is this is what you need to do. Okay do you WanNa talk about nitty gritty and how you really figured out this is it I want you to go talk to three, four, five people in your life that no, you really well. But our truth tellers, they're not gonNa Make Edward, feel? Good. They're gonNA. Tell you the truth could be a coach at former teacher or something like that. I want you to ask them to define for you what they think. You're best at doing. They're gonNA know the people who know you best know what you're talented at and when they tell you, you're going to believe it way more than if you said it yourself but I want you to take a shot at the list as well. Before you go talk to these people and I think that's going to give you a jolt of confidence. Then I want you to do the same thing with them on things that make you come alive roles, task functions when you get to that stage. Now, you know your sweet spot is. Our time is almost up before I let you go you matter and you do have what it takes. Thank you so much for joining the conversation until the next time. This is the Ken Coleman show. Press on. Thanks for listening to the Ken Coleman Show for more, you can find the show on demand wherever you listen to podcasts and watched the show on Youtube. 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What Weird Things Did Presidents Eat?

Proof

16:13 min | 1 year ago

What Weird Things Did Presidents Eat?

"Hey proof listeners. It's bridget here and today's episode proof is another bonus episode Now we're talking about one of my very favorite subjects with one of my very favorite people we've got Tucker Shaw here and and he's GonNa talk about Presidential Food Tucker welcome bridget. Thank you for that very introduction. You're one of my favorites while the food it might not be presidential but I guess the question is what did president well. The thing is presidents or people to buy presents have to eat and presidents residents are just as weird and interesting ramps. It's the better word as any of the rest of us and so everyone of them has had their own sort of personal tastes and in Personal Pecadillos as it were and so there's been quite a range over the course of history things that presidents have eaten some boring and some really interesting so so today. We're going to look at some of the more weird and wacky ones. Some of them have been like really interesting eaters and really the people who cared a lot about food some sort of brought these strange habits with them from wherever they came from and obviously things have changed because it's been what two hundred and forty something years Aspen Awhile. It's been awhile since we've had these things called presidents so the further back you look the stranger it might seem to us but it might not seem so strange to them right yeah right going back towards the kingly diets correct right pre-presidential well that was like a thing right the George Washington. They try to make them king exactly. I was like no thank you very much. I'm good I don't have teeth what was fascinating smoothies right but one of the first presidents who is known for being a Foodie. I guess sort of pre that word is Thomas Jefferson of course yes you could write books and books and books and there are books in Buxton bucks about what he ate. He's spent time in France and understood that for for him food with something that he wanted to inhabit in a way that was more than just kind of fuel right sort of wanted to use it as a means of expression or reparation and pleasure right exactly but he also had some kind of gnarly things around but on Sundays he did this thing called drunken loaf what he would do or what he would request is to take my gat and soak it in red wine for half an hour so it really turns like mushy right but it's it's sort of like if you think of like a Brady Tuscan soup it has that kind of like you know that that starts comes off the bread and kind of slops up and make sort of a really sort of eh putting putting this exactly and then you take kind of basically a macaroni and she's mixture of like noodles butter cream and Parmesan John which was like a big deal back on to actually get parmesan cheese like you'd have to be rich no someone and those people several people along new a and then you scoop it over this loaf of wine soaked brad so it's sort of like carbon car carb with a little bit of cheese and a little bit wine so in a way it's kind of like having a bowl of pasta with some garlic bread on the side into glass of wine. Only you're doing it very efficiently. It sounds like the perfect day the after exactly yeah hangover food little hair the dog exactly and lots of carbs anyway so who knows whether it inspired him to write the declaration of independence offense. I have no idea but it got him through. Those Sundays gave him that one of our presidents who really I think probably didn't have much of a chance to stand out as remarkable was president Andrew Johnson exactly so he came in after that terrible incident at the mood theater with Abraham Lincoln he was the vice president and so he was never elected president but he had to take over and they had to spend a Lotta time in New York City at this time just like candidates do now to raise money so he would often be sort of feted not feted as in a swamp but feted as celebrated in New York City and Del Monaco's was as you know like the place to see be seen and not be eaten and it was really in the French tradition but it was sort of this idea of like courtly dining in a restaurant setting in downtown New York so very fancy course after course after course after course menus were written in French bunch of words that maybe you knew what they were. Maybe didn't so one thing that was considered and still is considered a little bit taboo but also really a signifier of kind of being in the super in crowd like maybe if there was alumina during that town they would be eating this thing called Ortolan which is like a little Tang like a little songbird songbird teeny teeny weeny little bird not very common and there was a sense of I guess this probably came about after the French revolution a sense of like only rich people eat this break out the pitchforks. This is not a good idea. Team comes for all right exactly glee and there was a tradition of hanging Napkin over your head to cover your face so that God didn't see you eating this bird we it kind of in one take that cartoon scenario where a character sticks like a fish in their mouth and like pulls out the bones that kind of idea. That's how he does or on on so he participated in that. I don't know if you've got any grief for it but it's documented. Well and God sees all okay. I'm going to interrupt our episode for quick intermission. It's time for today's Bob's Red Mill Rain Quiz today. We are quizzing. My fabulous colleague Becky Hayes. Hey Hey becky so I think you fancy yourself a little bit of a world traveler. Don't you get around a little bit all right well. Can you tell us what is the Scottish British spurt. Oil is at a utensil. That's used for stirring porridge to avoid lumps or be a golden trophy awarded annually to the very best orange maker and all the land and I got a fifty fifty shot here for all our sakes really hope. It's be a golden trophy. Don't even know what that is but I know I want one me too I I want to but I did trick you because they're both right in two thousand and sixteen. Bob's treadmills very own Bob more one as the golden spur World Bordj champion and he I used Bob's red. Mill's gluten free organic steel cut oats. Each serving has five grams of protein lots of fiber and a certified gluten free for more information on these praiseworthy is worthy oats and a ton of delicious recipes. Bod TREADMILL DOT COM now back to the show. Let's move forwards a little bit all right old. FDR Gotcha one of our eleanor's husband Eleanor's husband one of his most monumental achievement semester eleanor roosevelt correct exactly exactly yes so humble guy generally but also very focused on keeping regions of the country kind of engaged to get over these things like the great depression or World War. Two these sort of like minor problems. Take an item and you want the the weight of the country behind you when you're trying to solve these problems so he did make a big deal about eating foods from different parts of the country sort of as a symbolic gesture to you indicate that he was a representative for everybody in America and one of the things that he was exposed to was abalone from California California which as you know it's a shellfish it's gigantic. It's sort of weird. It lives on rocks that you have to really take your life in your hands to go and harvest. It is a dangerous job. Yeah Dangerous Job people die yes so he had these brought to the White House for a meal and there was a very specific recipe that I'm not sure I don't know if we have documentation whether or not this came from him or his cooking camp trump as it were or whether it came from the purveyor of the abalone but this is a very eighty a distraction you saw tedd for twenty eighty six seconds exactly on each side and then you surf twenty six twenty seven. You're toast. It's chewing gum at that point. It's five twenty five Sushi. Nobody nobody needs that but it was still very rare ingredient to get your hands on in the US and there's very seasonal and because it can't be cultivated very easily and because it's so dangerous to harvest and also often founding places like national parks so you're not allowed to it's still something that's pretty rare to come across but it's not so dissimilar to like somewhere between clam and SCALLOP L. up. Maybe maybe a little bit chewier. Both of those things. I've never had no have you. I have it's time yeah I think it has. Its fans right and probably for good reason. It's sort of like it reminds me a little bit of like as cargo where I'm in it for the garlic. Do you know what I mean exactly. Yeah S. cargo frogs likes. Give me enough garlic speaking of frogs legs so we're GONNA go back a hundred years from back to President John Tyler who see one of the Duran Duran members know those tailored tailored exactly but hey listen John. Tyler probably had groupies. I don't know I don't know listen. It was eighteen forty one when he took over also a very odd time in American history sort of in between the Andrew Jackson era and leading up to the civil war era so lots of you know political Michael Strife and social strife and like I'm still trying to find our feet as a country and so one of his big celebrations and he was one of the first to institute this idea of like we gotta have a big celebration in Washington for July fourth. It's not just a date date that we noticed but we actually need to party right right so somebody sent him from Key West Florida fan of his potentially groupie. I don't know but definitely royal fan a three hundred pound turtle. That was a slow delivery I mean how long does it take to get up there. Did they ride the three hundred. How big is the three three hundred pound turtle you judge this was a really common thing in the day to eat turtle and it was very very common especially for seafarers because you could keep a turtle alive on a boat for as long as basically as long as you needed to. They would eat scraps need to make sure they have enough water. They're not trying to run away right. They might hide can do and you know unfortunately sort of for the turtles or tortoises whichever it was you could stack the on top of each other in the boat and there's not much they can do that doesn't have a lot of fall back on but to keep it fresh you just ship it up alive and then dispatch it process it slice it into stakes. Sometimes it's more like a pulled me more like a pork very if you ever had turtle turtle I have never had turtles. I've had mock turtles right came out wouldn't people said I don't Wanna eat turtle anymore. I love that there was something called mock turtle soup and there was a need to make me mock turtle soup the thing about Turtle I've had it before and it's unremarkable would say it's got kind kind of chewing us density to the flashed. I mean it depends on where you're getting it. From the shuttle it takes on flavor well and it's lean in the sense of turtles kind of Muscley but it's not they don't run around news like losing weight yeah so it does have a little bit of a richness and again it takes on flavor but the size of it. I think was the thing I think that's a yeah if you're thinking thinking about like Galapagos tortoises that's what you need to be thinking about because you could ride that around as you suggested sort of a tortoise derby perhaps move for the dispatch in the last one I have for you is James K polk mantra familiar with another one that has not quite been lost to the and also also history but like maybe flirting around the edges of the Mike you know Hazy Hazy forgettable moments James K polk is from Tennessee. I see okay you're from West Virginia not neighbors but not far yeah in the great scale of the whole country. We are neighbors same mountain chain exactly a little bit of sort of similarity of the way that you're living especially at that time. I mean eighteen. He was in there from eighteen forty five eighteen forty nine in the White House. This is Daniel Daniel Boone time right. I mean so it's the frontier. This is actually the wild west even though it's only Tennessee which really is Dollywood as far as I'm concerned and what's not to love one thing they don't do it. Dollywood is bare which is what James Capel was is a big fan of bear bear. I have not had their but I'm kind of curious about bear because look I don't think bears acute and I don't want to kill him exactly but I'm curious about the flavor because they've for inch dared generally vegetarian sometimes they eat small little things but they don't tend to bring down deers unless you're really really in trouble right so they probably take on a lot of tear. Lavar grazers their free range grazers exactly so you think about all the ah incredible diversity of plant life in the Appalachians right Mike extraordinary one of the most diverse regions of the world so so it has a likely I would think very distinct flavor. They also probably have dark green light me like because they're active animals and in this scenario he was doing bear stakes so I don't know exactly but my guess is that comes from something like a Loin. Yes and you cook it. You basically sauteed in cast iron with butter and some pepper and maybe a little garlic or whatever else you have around but it's very very simple dish. It was something he grew up with so as subsistence kind of upbringing this common bear deer. Whatever does it move. Let's try to eat it well well. If you were president. Tell me what's on your menu. I would love and you tell me if I'm right or wrong fried chicken and bubbles. I'm voting for you. We're going in there together president. We're GONNA fix this mess. Love it. Thanks thanks Tucker well. Thanks to my running mate Tucker. I'll be vice president fair enough because I don't really like to work too much. Let's hire president you and I just Kinda hang out in the backyard all right perfect. Thank you bridget. Thanks so much tucker the stroll down Presidential Lane and thanks to all all of you for listening to this bonus episode of proof. We want you to keep tuning in every Thursday for more proof. Bonus episodes were answering your questions and if you have a weird the food question that you'd like us to answer then email proof at America's test kitchen dot com and please stay tuned for season three of proof coming this fall.

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AP Headline News Feb 06 2019 08:00 (EST)

AP Radio News

04:30 min | 2 years ago

AP Headline News Feb 06 2019 08:00 (EST)

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Swimming vs Soccer

Smash Boom Best

37:13 min | 1 year ago

Swimming vs Soccer

"From the brains behind brains on its smash boom best the chauffeur people with big opinions. Hello hello. I'm molly bloom and this is smashed boom. Best the show where we take two things smash them together and ask you to decide which one is best today. Swimming gene and soccer are going goggles sweatband in a debate designed to answer one big question which one is the coolest. I'm kind of scared of deepwater water soccer only because i know the rule doesn't matter how old you are what shape your buddies and anyone can swim just like being in the water order like howard not too hot soccer. It's like more of a team sport and you have to communicate with people running. It makes you sweaty and gross. Will it be swimming the splashy lifesaving skill or soccer the super popular game of strategy and speed. We've got claire here to help us decide hi claire. Thank you for being here so claire. What are your thoughts about swimming and soccer like right off the bat. Do you like one more than the other probably swimming just because it's what you do during the summer it's fine you can splash around and soccer. I feel like you just get kinda really sweaty balls laws. So what is your personal experience with soccer. I played like h. G. r. a. which is like a kid league when i was little but that was about it and i got hit. Missions lot didn't make you wanna keep playing soccer. I mean it was fun. I made a lot of friends but i don't play soccer anymore. Brought people together so what about what is your personal experience swimming. I did the swim team for one in year and i was off lot. It started in lane six. This low slain ended in lane six and i'm a lifeguard this summer so i'll have to save people from drowning when they can't swim. That isn't very important skill to have so. Would you say at this point. You feel like maybe you're biased toward one or the other. You can kind of your personal. Feelings aside said i can put my feelings aside. I think it depends on what these people got to say about it. Who's going to persuade better actually are coming in with an open mind. So how how would you say you feel about debates in general. Do you ever get into debates with your friends and family all the time. I think i think having debates are really good because people need to be confident in their opinions but they also need to have like reasons to back it up because otherwise it's just a fruitless argument <hes> so would you say that you are a good debater fire. I think so. I think if i know enough about the topic then yeah because otherwise it's just like an argument. So what tactics do you use like having facts ready to list off and being confident in what i'm saying and like having good follow up questions to ask people and today what are you looking for from our debaters debaters that may help when you over probably some humor rigs it more fun reasons why they might like it more like experiencing stories maybe view the personality and some personal appeals looking for excellent well without further ado. Let's meet those debaters. Please welcome our free style queen a. and winner in the water and i wiggle high just came up the stairs. Thanks for having me anna in one sentence. Why is swimming cooler then soccer because it's cooler temperature <hes> i'm going to take the literal literal very cool and now for our bicycle kohl kicking cool kid and goal scoring guru. Tommy mcnamara alot tommy in just one sentence. Why is soccer the smash boom the best. I don't even need a sentence. All i need is one word. Go <music> excellent well before we get started. Let's review the four rounds of this debate round. One is the declaration of greatness where each debater will make a persuasive statement that includes all the facts history and lord. We need to know about their side next. It's the micro around a creative challenge. Each debater has prepared for in advance their plan knock our socks off off with humor and creativity and then it's time for the sneak attack a surprise challenge each debater. We'll have to complete on the fly and to top it off. We've got the final six. Each debater will have six words to show us how and why they're side deserves to win and if we end up with a tie on our hands there's always always a sudden death round to finish it off but hopefully it won't come to that got. It claire got it. Are you ready to get the show on the road. Yes let's do it then. Let the games begin. It's time for our first round declaration of great. We've flipped a coin and end team. Swimming is up. I all right anna. Let's hear it meat may bowers and nine year old from northfield minnesota who is a bull shark dark okay well. She's actually a human and that's the mascot of her swim team but still she's a bowl shark. She won a race at her first ever swim. Meet i had a horrible belly flop because they didn't know how to dive back bent and i was just swimming as hard and fast as i could and and i saw that no one else had touched the lines and i couldn't see anyone who decided me and so i'm like oh. I'm in the lead. I better just finish this and i won not it just he would pull them and what you get when you win besides all the glory and honor. I gotta duck because i want your very own rubber. Duck and rubber ducks were the prizes that they gave out to olympia. Nhs while then there's a dude who would have twenty eight ducks and twenty twenty. Three of those would be gold ones. I'm talking about thirty three year. Old american swimmer michael phelps who's the most successful in most decorated olympian be an of all time with a total of twenty eight medals to his name that means that arguably the most successful athlete on the planet is a swimmer and have you heard of diana naiad. She's a swimmer who used the sport to test her limits and do something truly amazing. Imagine this you plunge into the waters off the coast of cuba. You're twenty eight. Your goal is to make to key west florida one hundred and three miles away swimming the whole way a on your own. Just you your wetsuit and your thoughts. No one has ever done this. You want to be the first you swim through rough seas for forty two hours seventy six miles. You're so close but wait you look up and strong winds have blown you off your course. You're not gonna make it. You stop the swim. This happened to diana naiad in nineteen seventy eight. It was a crushing defeat. She kept doing long distance swims and set other records but this this defeat eight at her so at age sixty. She tried again. She crushed it for twenty nine miles but then in the water. She had her first ever asthma attack. She had to stop again but six weeks later on her third trashy swim for forty hours and then a jellyfish stung her twice not just any jellyfish either the life threatening toxic portuguese men manna war. The medical team told it was too dangerous to go on then eleven months later. You guessed it. She tries a fourth time. An all heck breaks loose. She circled by sharks thunderstorms loom nearby. She gets more jellyfish stings and then the sun comes out and burns her skin. She was only fifty miles from the end. When her crew pulled her out for her own safety another year goes by and by some miracle she still hadn't given up diana was sixty four and she had failed four times before but guess what on the fifth attempt thirty five years after her first try she finally reached the beach in key west florida this this is her right after that her mouth was swollen from saltwater and jellyfish stings but just listen to that conviction on news. We should never ever give up to all right now. It looks like a solid kerry works. I if you really wanna test yourself. Swimming is your sport but it's great. If you just wanna have fun too. I swam my entire entire childhood all the way through high school. I won some races. I lost some races. I made friends and i gained mountains of inner and outer strength. Even to this day i have big strong shoulders from swimming. I can live heavy boxes and wigley dogs and big desks and gallons of milk without breaking a sweat while soccer players <unk> aren't even allowed to use their arms sick burn. I have the arms of a superhero in fact swimming the ideal workout just ask real life scientist senteced lisa bowers. It's total body sport. It exercises every muscle of your body. It's aerobic so is great for your heart and lungs. You need a lot of strength so that was good for your muscles and flexibility and it's not hard on any of your joints. Lisa is a micro biology professor at saint olaf college in minnesota and a former division one scholarships swimmer and to those who say swimming's a solitary sport lisa says wrong swimming as both an individual sport and a team sport in many ways so you swim your individual events so it's just you against the clock but then also there are relays so you're on a team with three other individuals all working toward goal. That's a great point but guess what else swimming is in just a sport. It's a vital survival skill to let's say you're at the beach and a a big wave hits or rains really really hard and your backyard fills with water or you're on vacation and you fall off. A jet. Ski is soccer going to save your life no but knowing how to swim well so let's review with swimming. You can win cool awards so you can test your limits. It makes you strong and flexible. It teaches you about teamwork and it could save your life when you look at these facts. It's obvious swimming. Women is way cooler than soccer plus. Our lives depend on it wow and inspiring and invigorating waiting declaration about swimming claire. What did you think what stood out to you there. I thought you when you started making the point about awards. I was like where's this going owing. Not everything's about winning but then you went on to make the point about like the journey and like pushing yourself which i think is a good point because as a runner like i run cross country three and it's like so mentally challenging but when you get to the annual like wow i did that in that story but that woman was really cool and also being trained as a lifeguard. I hope everyone can swim because i don't wanna have to save it right now team swing but still haven't heard from teams soccer so got a got a matter. The luck tommy and now is your chance. You've got thirty seconds to respond to end stroke of genius there and your time starts now. Let made a safe first of all the you know where you don't need a lifeguard. The soccer field okay bellyflop ning sharks. That wasn't a declaration of greatness. That was a declaration chain of danger. You're talking about how it's not a solitary sport. Who's on your team that jellyfish gada. I don't really talk like that a- and you also have you ever heard of diana nak no i hadn't you know who i have heard of mia hamm palay rinaldo okay wait. Oh wow those are really good points. I think i'm actually very nice but okay okay tommy. It is your turn with for your declaration of greatness. Let's hear it. It's a hot summer day. You're running around the field giving it your all and then the whistle blows union teammates walked to the sidelines exhausted zoster but excited for the second half and the chance to win then you hear the most magical four word phrase in sports who sizes i do. I do the need to oranges. Can i have one if you're one of the two point point three million kids in the u._s. Play soccer. You know what i'm talking about. Soccer is the most popular sport in the whole world even more popular than fortnight tonight. Kids across the globe are hitting headers getting past goalies and yes eating orange slices at halftime for that tasty vitamin c. boost power them to victory according to the international federation of association football. The earliest earliest version of soccer dates back to the han dynasty in china over two thousand years ago. The game was known as sue chew involved kicking the ball into a net which we still do today. The players filled the balls with feathers and hair which luckily we don't do anymore. Hey pass the ball. Sir is it's full hair. Actually i'm good you can keep it. Soccer is also good for you for your heart your blood pressure and your general fitness. It was a big part of it is the running soccer. Fields are huge soccer players averaged seven full miles of running per game all that exercise and fresh air does wonders for the human body and you won't smell like chlorine afterwards but hey while listen to me a guy named tommy mcnamara namara who doesn't play soccer professionally when you could listen to this guy listen tommy mcnamara and midfielder for the houston dynamo in major league soccer. That's right. There is another tommy mcnamara who was a professional soccer player and we have a lot in common. We're both super cool have great eight names and are exceptional athletes. Wait sorry that last one is just him. Tommy says one of the things that makes soccer so great is the teamwork gets gets a play with some of your best friend your training alongside them every day. You're pushing each other to try to get better. You have goals that you want to achieve personally and as a team soccer is such a team sport in the twenty fourteen world cup teams averaged three hundred and ninety passes a game three ninety talk about sharing is caring is not like some individual sports where you're just on your own racing against the clock swimming. It's about a group of people people coming together with a common goal like the avengers with chiller uniforms and while soccer players aren't quite superheroes they do have some of the mightiest hissed legs around in fact soccer. Players legs are worth millions of dollars. Why hello there nice to meet you. I'm cristiano ronaldo's bright leg. I'm so important that in two thousand nine my team real madrid had me insured for over a hundred million dollars. I meant so much to the team that they we needed to have a backup plan. If anything ever happened to me hold on just one second. I'm cristiano. Ronaldo's left leg here to say that it wasn't just you righty. It's both both of us that make the big bucks. Hey let's not fight. We need to work together. Do you want to <hes> kick it sometime. Lastly really let's talk about the fans. Soccer has a ton of them like get this three point. Five billion people watched at least part part of the world cup in two thousand eighteen. That's half the people in the world and they are some of the most dedicated fans ever they paint their faces vases they cheer and scream and they sing really fun chance everything from their team name to popular songs to my personal favorite the soccer fans love the game so much that they really league involved. Here's an example. The year is nineteen forty five arsenal from london or playing a match against dynamo from moscow. The type of match. They're playing is called a friendly but this match will be better described as a foggy legend has it the fog was so thick that day that it was almost impossible support for the players to see what happens in a sack game when no one can see mayhem both teams ended up sneaking extra players onto the field and aref didn't even notice it was a free for all the visibility was so bad that at one point arsenal's goalie ran right into to a goalpost and was out for the count. That's gotta hurt but did they call the match miette. That's russian for know. Some people say that a ban took his place as goalkeeper so they could finish the match. Where did jerry go his pretzels getting cold <hes> i think i a._c._m. Arsenal lost the game four to three but many of the details are lost to time. I guess guess you could say i've runs. Memory was a little foggy in conclusion. Soccer is the world's sport. It's a game that's been played for thousands thousands of years by people from totally different cultures who speak different languages but have some important things in common a love of the game and a hunger for those sweet sweet sweet orange slices delicious declaration of greatness claire. What did you think of tommy's rapturous statement about soccer well. I thought you were pretty funny. So that was good <hes> all right anna tommy really kick things into high gear sure you've got thirty seconds to respond and your time starts now so cheaters. We're dealing with cheaters. Those are the kind of athletes were talking second of all i told him no one on earth could have the name anna wagle much less. A world class athlete left out one thirdly. I personally love the the smell of chlorine and i definitely prefer it to sweaty. Armpits next soccer balls had feathers and hair in them. That's disgusting. I have dream bad dreams tonight and lastly. I'm slightly allergic to oranges traeger. I make you okay claire claire. Now's the time think about which declaration of greatness impressed you more. Don't say it out loud. Though have you marked it down. I have marked it down. Excellent listeners centers at home. We want you to award a point to if you're unsure which declaration was cooler just press pause until you've made up your mind and if a brilliant idea for a debate pops into your your head while you're deciding had to smash boom dot org and tell us about it all right debaters began to take a break grab yourself some orange slices and a fresh towel and we'll be right back with samore smash boom best your watching date of debate home to raging rhetoric and all in firing argumentation human tation todd doug is here with fifteen time debate champ healer lincoln today. We're covering a debate in real time. This doozy just broke out at the international federation of fairies annual convention. That's right tied ferries from all over the world have congregated for their first night of fun and very serious conversation but the tooth fairy is in a fiery debate with roger a regular ferry. Let's listen in. I don't we'll see how you can have a time consuming hobby. Not end up neglecting your duties. Tooth fairy do even care about collecting teeth anymore of course roger but i don't see what's wrong with having a hobby ob you're to look i've been trying to grow my interest beyond just collecting teeth so i started making two sculptures i made last week and i think my work has a a lotta bite bite guys because the teeth so you're saying you're gonna give being the tooth fairy entirely so you you can be an artist. Wow you guys hearing this. He's going to let teeth rot under pillows around the world logical fallacies. Let's see give me the hebrew here that logical fallacies are common mistakes. People make when debating there are many different kinds and when we just heard from roger. It's called the straw man fallacy. It's when you blow someone's argument way out of proportion or maybe even make up a fake problem to get mad about like letting teeth rot under children's pillows all over the world. Let's see how this plays out for roger well. That's not what i meant roger look. I'm just saying it's possible to be good good at your job and have hobbies. Of course i'm going to continue to do my job as the tooth fairy chila roger that guy's always blowing things right outta proportion well there you have it folks smart. Fairies and people aren't swayed by a straw man fallacy. We'll catch you next time on state. It's already back to school time and as parents want equip our kids with everything they need for school and life and that means making sure they have the skills and confidence to succeed whether they need to get caught up in math or if they're advanced and you want them to stay ahead. Why not give them the math math nauseam advantage. 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We're going to make this bonus episode where i mali will have to debate. I am excited excited and nervous and so grateful to all of you but here's the deal the only way to hear this bonus episode is to join the debate club during season to you donate today to join the club and get this special bonus episode and the cool thing is you can give any amount and be included in the debate club head to smash boom dot org slash debate club to join. Thank you so so much man and we're back with smash boom best the show about showdowns we rely on our listeners for debate suggestions for example alien from issaquah washington sent us this great matchup my debate idea as beach versus mountains will give her a call at the end of the show to see who she thinks should win all right. Let's get back to our smash boom battle of the day swimming versus soccer with our judge clare. Hello <music> are buoyant. Bruiser and cleaned. Contestant are back for their next bout micro round this week's micro round challenge is pund ammonium. We've asked tommy and anna to cook up some puns about soccer and swimming. We want them a._m. To tickle our punny bones they're prepared for three high octane rounds of pun slinging so this way to the punch show all right. Tommy will let let you kick this thing off. Why do soccer players stay on land because they're too cool for pool. If you're not swimming water you even doing with your life. Why did the swimmers mom take him shopping. He had a need for speedo. You can get them online now so if you think soccer is a better sport than you've really gone off the deep end. I hope you don't you dare to the rescue. Why did the soccer player stay home from school. Kick day. Learn how to swim. If you wanna make a splash <music> totally punny claire. What did you think about those puns. Did you have a favorite. <hes> i liked liked the speedo on speeders kinda gross. Sometimes you walk into boys so impracticably turnaround now and so all right claire. It's time to award a point to whichever team you think did best saying i've already picked that was quick all right now. It's time for our unique attack. Tommy and anna have no idea what their sneak attack. Challenge will be so so. They're going to have to invent something on the spot. Are you guys feeling improvisational today. Yes yes and yes your top top. Secret assignment is speed facts. How many facts can you get out about your side in one breath and not in and tommy feel free to whisper shout slur. Do whatever you have to do to get the most facts in we'll give you some time to think a bunch of facts and then you'll both take a big breath and let her rip sound good swimmers might have an advantage here 'cause they know how to take some deep breaths only three lengths of the pool without breathing. Oh my goodness oh uh-huh tommy was up for his last round so anna europe used those swimmer's lungs and if you take a breath i'm gonna tell you to stop care watching you. Closely k ready. <hes> therefore main types of strokes folks that we didn't get to talk about today. There's freestyle which looks like a dog. There's butterfly which looks like a butterfly. There's breastroke which looks like your whipping butter and there's backstroke. Would you can do on your back. You could swim all of them too. Breath breath not out. You can swallow them together at an event called the i._m. Which stands for individual medley or you can swim them as a part of a relay which is when you swim with three other swimmers on a team or you you could do. What's called a distance web where you keep going going. Get somebody's at the end of your lane holding card having qualified for the wrong but i thought it was very impressive. Love well done tommy. Are you ready. Your lungs feeling strong. I'm just gonna chew on a blade of grass. 'cause i'm a soccer player. Ready ready to go whenever you're ready to the beautiful game. It has been a it's really hard. It's so hard cheated. Whoever man that was is both impressive on both sides really well done that was generous claire time to award appoint style. Stop stints link so many different criteria. You can judge on yeah. This is really wrong. Bias shot all right. I've made my decision. I don't know if it's the best one but you know you just got to commit poulsen as the teenager say nowadays take full full. Send like whenever you know. It's like you're like you're about to do something. Not sure if you're going to but whatever full said like think you're gonna eat some dinner. You want add some salt. How much do all of it thank you for that. I wrote it down. <music> all right. This debate is really getting my heart rate up. How about you. Are you feeling nervous for our debaters. I mean one of them's got to step it up because because one of them's behind so i'm gonna bring your best game all right and we don't know who it is. They're both gonna step it. Know exactly both both got a step it up in this final round final six tommy anna you have six more words words to persuade claire that your side is the smash boom best tommy europe beautiful game no hands no uh-huh problem anna your swim because it's fun full send the grades k. claire. It's time to award your final point all right. Have you decided right tally up those points. Who will the winner of this debate battle be. Will it be swimming splashy water bound sport or soccer the most celebrated game in the world claire. Who one can. I say something okay so i thought ah both teams brought a lot to the table. I think swimming is really good because you don't have to rely on other people but you can still work as a team him to get to your goal but also soccer's fund you can like joke around with people and have some fun make new friends and i feel like you travel on sock release. All my friends do so that being said you guys have tied so we're gonna have to go onto the sudden death. Draw dry out that means. We're going into our tiebreaker round. Your sudden death challenge is it's a jingle. Come up with a short jingle for your side feel free to channel a different era and keep him short and catchy. We'll give you some time to write your jingles for swimming and soccer while we hear some delightful hold music man push splash. Please don't think audi paddle freestyle no the oceans and lakes swimming run pass. Ask me tapestry goalie <music>. Are you guys ready to present. Your jingles never been readier. Oh yeah anna yeah. It is your turn. Let's hear your jingle here. Let me just chew on this blade of grass dinna splash splash and just if you have a certain problem like the real smelly slept on a swimsuit and flop on your belly. Everything thing is fun in the pool. Hey everyone will think you're cool yay plus. It'll keep you alive when he fell off your jetski. Well the job nice very nice very nice all right tommy. Let's hear your jingle with soccer. You can use your feet. Just just kick the ball with your favorite cly past the goalie the crowd she sucker sucker no more tears. They're nice very nice keel jetski. Those are two very excellent jing very nice. I i saw those on the t._v. I would be like hey. That sounds like it's for me. Those products only go kick us on it. All comes down to this award. Appoint me for whoever you think had a more catchy jingle all right. It is dog has been awarded claire. Tell us who is the winner of this smash boom battle well. It was really close but right at the end. I'm a choir girl and i love the rhyme in the melody of the soccer jingle so i had to give it to tommy soccer for the win to new. Tommy was such a choir. It was a choirboy yeah. I'm gonna have to learn how to play. Soccer is really nice to me. You all the expected my care package of orange slices next week congratulations all right and i it was so nice to compete against you. You are very funny and you are truly a hip person. I'm like me you knew how to use full. Send right right away. Jingle was great. Thanks she did get to the point that one yeah well l. Claire thinks soccer one today but what about you. We want to know head to smash boom dot o._r._g. And vote. Maybe you have a different opinion so let's keep this debate going doing all right. That's it for this. Super sporty showdown smash boom best is a creation of the people at brains on an american public media. It's produced by mark sanchez sandon zanan totten molly bloom elissa dudley and rosie to pot we had engineering help from corey shrapnel. Steve griffiths and dan powell and we have production help from manica wilhelm. I'm christina lopez and lauren brennan. Iverson is the voice of our music and our announcer is marley foyer recur auto. We wanna give a special. Thanks justine koo austin cross taylor. Kofman mildred murray link for jonathan shiffling. Mike akil bon todd masterson ann lewis rink tommy. Is there anyone you wanna think today. I want to give a quick shout out to my family friends the dwyer family some of my favorite people and their son conor is olympic swimmer so i just want to apologize in advance. Swimming is cool and i'm sorry and what about you amana anyone you wanna think today yeah i wanna thank the two ladies i interviewed may bowers and lisa bowers who are my niece and sister and how about you. Do you have any special missile shoutouts all thanks to for laurin trask to come on the show every superfund and before we go. Let's call up alien. She is the listener who suggested suggested the beaches versus mountains debate. I think mountains would win because some mountains turn into volcanoes and some volcanoes make beaches and the snow from the top top of the mountains melton district that go into the ocean whoa hey nice reasoning. So who do you think would with if you have an idea for an epic debate battle head to smash boom dot org and tell us all about it. We'll be back soon with another debate battle goodbye uh-huh uh breath. You guys don't know this. We had to start this debate thirty minutes late because anna eight before and you can't.

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146. American Ex-Pat & Berlin Go-Between

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146. American Ex-Pat & Berlin Go-Between

"I want to tell you about I way with Jamila Djamil, a podcast checkout on I way to meal chats with your favorite smart interesting and inspiring people. You'll hear some truly vulnerable in hilarious stories from people like Demi, levato billy porter, Reese Witherspoon Roxane Gay, Beanie Feldstein, Nicole buyer, and so many more I way is about growing and loving yourself and about celebrating progress not perfection. Listen to I way that W. E.. I G. H. With Jamila Djamil now in your favorite podcast at make sure subscribe. Make sure you hit favourite. It's a really great show. In a whole case. It's called the two lines out. Hey, we know. How? You. But the best part batting order conversations that make you think about yourself or to wait a world and it's gone down all in this aligns this align with me cloud line is out now listen in stitcher apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. You've been listening for the last few weeks. You've probably heard that we're releasing a new follow up call every two weeks on stitcher premium. On this week's highly anticipated follow up. We're going old school one of the early episodes that made massive weights. I'm speaking with the caller from made out with my teacher episode fifty one a while ago she tells me about developments with her former teacher and what she's up to now also institure premium, you'll find the entire be a back catalog in a ton of other exclusive content. So check out the beautiful anonymous bonus episodes. Now, listen now stitcher premium. If you want a free month trial of stitcher premium, use the code stories that's code stories. Hello to all my pickled herring fans, it's beautiful anonymous one hour one phone call no names no hold. I'd rather no one. and. I think it'll be more fun. Hi everybody. It's Chris gathered welcoming new another episode. You the four nine. Can you hear that it doesn't sound like a new studio? I'm not still under tuition I'm in Key West Florida, which is a weird place and never thought I'd go I'm glad I'm here it's. Doesn't feel like America. That's GONNA time. To what I talk about just a few seconds, WanNa, let you know right now I'm in a hotel. The Wall of the hotel room actually joins the area where the housekeeping staff has their base of operations. So you may hear that in the background as I have been. For the past four days. Of staying in this hotel, it's totally fine I gotta thank everybody's been listening to beautiful anonymous A. Year news reports from twenty eighteen that were really exciting. apparently are episodes were downloaded almost seven million times. Thank you guys. Thank you guys for downloading all those episodes. That is bonkers. That is really nuts to me that almost seven million times people downloaded. Of Me Talking to strangers on the phone but I guess empathy goes along way also here's a little point of pride beautiful anonymous, the community on facebook. Apparently, that's the largest online. Group following any of the ear wolf podcasts, which is crazy. That's crazy. Thanks to everybody who's in there and. If, you're not in the beautiful anonymous facebook community join up everybody talks about the episodes more often than I. Everybody's just really chilling. Nice to each other. Fun Stuff going on the thirty days of kindness project continues I saw one where everyone was encouraged to go out and and wipe the snow off of a neighbor's. Car Windshield and I laughed and laughed and laughed because I'm in Florida and not up in the northeast straight now. So I enjoyed that one also have to give a shout out to Jessica Jessica has made some beautiful anonymous Bingo boards which are so funny. There's ten different versions of these bingo boards. Jessica's encouraging you to download a pdf of one of the Bingo boys and when you listen for example, if I throw my glasses or I mentioned New Jersey or I explain how I'm about to say something where I think everyone listening will get med to me your mark off one of the Bingo boards. Check it out. What else go to Chris Dot Com Brooklyn I got a bunch of shows coming up at union hall not going to Belabor that point. Let's talk about this episode. You're about to hear I mentioned before world traveling we put out one of the international numbers and it went in a really weird direction we actually talked to we spend the globe three different countries get involved I'm in America plus two others and I talked to someone who who has lived. In more places than one, and he's able to say what? It's like to to go overseas to live in a different place than the place where you started out to look back at where you come from to compare the two to see how the world talks about both the really interesting conversation with a couple interesting people, I thank them for having it. I thank you for listening. Thanks to everybody for getting those downloads up getting the facebook group. Super Cool stuff enjoy the episode. Thank you for calling beautiful anonymous. A beeping noise will indicate when you are on the show with the host. Hello Hello. Hi. Hi Hi. Hi I'm pretty good. How are you? I am good. I'm really excited because I'm actually I'm actually calling from Berlin. But I saw your tweet and My family is in Finland and. I would love to talk to you. But I think it would be quite a a boring. But. But so I thought because my cousins has been living with her in in Helsinki right now and I think you two would have an amazing conversation I I. Very. Just. Have feeling about it. And I talked to jared and and. He thought he said he could make it happen. So yeah I don't I don't know how much I should reveal or tell you but This. was. Going to happen so I put out a tweet with a Finnish phone number. You are in Berlin but willing to connect us with someone in Helsinki. Yes I'm giving up its. Talking to you for an hour but. This is boyfriend. Shouting background we love your show so much and I. Think you're bringing so much joy to so many people and ice. Yeah I. I know it's seriously a complete like my face is so wide from smiling all the time that is hurting. That's nice. I didn't. I didn't know anybody liked me in Berlin I got out to Berlin. Berlin. The coolest town now. It is it's an amazing and I think your your humor would. Really well here. That's good. I think I would make sense my humor. Stereotype we have of of people in Germany, is that Very into order. and. Works well, people who have a stern. View regarding order. I think he's just. Kidding around I WANNA get out there though I hear it's cool I hear it's like the coolest spot. Yeah, and also Helsinki is Really cool and trying to move there at some point as well. families there but Yeah So yeah. I don't know I think there has been on the line already. Let Him. It's been amazing talking to you for a little while likewise. I don't know I I have this is not going to be weird he I warned him but he was like, okay. 'cause he knows the show but he's not. That bad. So okay. I think, jared. Jared patching me through right now. This is such a lovely I'm glad I got to talk to you few minutes and this is such A. Surprise. Hello. Hi. Hi. This is Chris. Hi Chris. This is. Oh Hi. Yeah. Are you on the phone to. Yeah. Okay So. Now, we're all on the phone another. Nice. How is this happening? It's I. Think should I say goodbye at a I guess if that was the if that was the plan I think yeah, that's jared time. He was the plan was that you're gonNA drop off now. Oh okay. Have a great conversation. Thank you so much. Bye Bye lepe. Instead I say that, right? Yeah. That's her nickname. That's hurting. Okay. Well now you've been kind of ambushed with a phone call from a random American fellow. It's pretty cool though I like your show I really like the fruit baskets one. I. showed it to my parents and they like it. Oh, the trump. Yeah. uh-huh. Yeah. It was pretty good families fairly conservative so it was nice to hear. Good conversation it felt like. Do got your head on straight. Yeah I. Did my best now you you're in. Helsinki is my understanding. Yeah Yeah I live here with my wife. and Are you are you from Helsinki? No No. I'm from the states I'm from Oklahoma originally. Yeah. It was going to say it doesn't strike me as the traditional Finnish accent. Yeah. We met in high school and She was the exchange student and a very long story short. Now we're married and we live in Helsinki together she's finished she's finished. So high school exchange student you're like, yeah. Oh Man. I'm head over heels and you commit to life, and now you live in Finland. Well it wasn't quite that we dated in high school we fell in love. And then she had to go back home. So I saved up a lot of my money sold my car and everything, and then I went to travel with her for a while. around Europe, and then in Australia and then we broke up and we stayed friends for the next. Gosh be years or so and then. through conversation like just talking on the phone and skype. We both Kinda were like, Hey, you wanna maybe try this again. And so I rented a really cheap apartment in. Bellingham. Washington. And she came to me and it worked out and Yeah. We got her citizenship or not Citizenship Green Card. and. It's Kinda tough in America right now. So we left for Helsinki and Yeah. So now, I'm getting ready to go to school here and she works for. Finnish embassy. Wow. Yeah. So that's a real love story. Did you kind of always have it in the back of your mind of wow that was I wonder how that would have gone if we weren't weren't so young things didn't fall apart or did it really flare backup? Organically. It was kind of one of those things where. After we broke up, you know you do the whole like that was my first love on now, and then I just never really did and so we've always been pretty good friends. and. Then through conversations on the phone when we first broke up, I was like I never wanna see her again a hater and then she kept trying to maintain the friendship. And then through just regular. Keeping in contact we just decided, hey, let's give it another shot and then as soon as she showed back up again I i. do like this is this is it for me to do I can't make it work. So you went from being like an angry young man who's like hater to all of a sudden growing up and being able to have more layered adult a reactions to things, and then it worked. Pretty much I, Kinda forced me to grow up a lot to. Go from me being the only person I. Look out for care about to having a partner now, that does that she's my best friend. So it makes it really easy. So, but I've been to Bellingham Washington. They got a good Improv theater out there I've performed it. Yeah. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah I love. Bellingham I miss it. I think. Upfront right the upfront theatre. Yeah. Yeah. I the whole scene as early. Cool. Where do you live Chris I live in New York City Queens New York specific. Cool, have you ever been months? Now know what's up with Finland. Finland is really great. It's like. It reminds me a lot of Washington state. Bellingham is kind of a good example like imagine you're in Bellingham. And it's really fun lots of Nice people and everything, but it's not talk. Okay. So some college kids some hippies but not much small talk. Yeah like they're still like the hardens like finish exterior and everything like that. You don't talk to the checkout person. You don't make small talk with them. You don't wave at people. You know little small things that American do rebel just way that people are strike up a conversation Oh day going. Yeah. But then whenever you start getting a little bit drunk with Finnish person suddenly they're like, let me buy you a drink. Oh my gosh this is so great. So they have A. Hard exterior but it. Melts quite a bit when you get to know them. Okay. So you you said, you guys headed out that way because I believe. The quote you said was it's Kinda tough in. America right now. Yeah was working at a creamery making artists and cheese. In a town called Port Townsend. Is kind of far away from Bellingham. But still in Washington state and is really tough and find her finding a job for she's getting her masters degree in political science. And for her to find a job that. Pertains to her skill set was really tough. Things are just expensive and healthcare and I couldn't find. I've got a pretty bad case of severe depression. So finding help was. Next to impossible because I mean our healthcare system for. Mental Disorders isn't great. So it got to the point where like let's go to Finland and we'll figure it out there. The medical system is much better and. So Everything worked out really well, I've got good doctors could medication and. She candidate my life. Yeah. So I have to say my ignorant American stereotype. makes. Me Feel like Finland is a place. That's. Cold where it's dark a lot more and that doesn't seem to scream. This is the place to go for better mental health. It's pretty funny how it works out like one of the happiest nations in the world and like it gets dark at. About three o'clock now and I mean, it's like. Zero degrees the wind's blowing super cold but people are people are happy. And you said you're from Oklahoma. Yeah Norman Oklahoma and below L. Casey. So the absolute opposite. Climate. Like pretty much as polar opposite as you get. Like actually involving the North Pole polar opposite yeah. This is also where Santa Lives Fanta lives up in. Lapland. there's the popular belief of the fins and. Yeah. So this is this is like the North Pole but not. So rule and lackland is an inhabited part of Finland that I believe when you look at a map that is actually in the Arctic Circle Yeah Yeah it's it's really far up there. It's one of the only places in Finland where you can see Aurora borealis you ever been up there. No not yet but we're hoping to go this winter. I'm really excited for it. He got to check that out. Yeah. Yeah. From check that out. I gotta say. When We put out a Finnish phone number. And then someone calls from Germany and says, I'm willing to connect you to someone in Finland and it starts to feel like we're playing this game telephone that's reaching across multiple countries. Spanning Oceans Continents. Necessarily, expect that'd be talking with some dude from Norman Oklahoma at the end of the. Something to make I feel hoodwinked. You need to tell you. This German link of ours that I feel a little hoodwinked I will let her know. Yeah I honestly didn't expect you to call me so like yeah, sure. I'll talk to him and then now here we are. I'm alive I. Love it now. You still make an artisan cheese out there and Finland. No No. They don't really do artisan cheese out here. So now. They're I mean they do but it's it's not as big in Finland. Does it is in America like we've got the microbrewery sensation and artists and cheese be like local homegrown things not to say Simmons doesn't like that it's just not on the scale of how it is and. The states. So what are you doing these days? I'm getting ready to go, to school. Stuff for computer stuff. That's not that's very different from artisanal cheese. Yeah. A lot of different things and I've always liked computers and care about the environment. So I WANNA see how can make those two things work together. Yeah. Computers. Yeah. Sorry. I'm more of an interesting case I. Wish I had more like Finnish culture to share with. You know someone who leaves Oklahoma winds up in Washington reconnects with an old flame from high school which leads him back towards living in the North Pole. I would say that's a pretty interesting tale. There's drinks around where are you right now? Are you at home? At home with my wife and our dog Kooky. What's that mean? Popey, it's finished for cup. POOP OKAPI Cup Ropy Yeah K. U. PPI. Like it's like C. O. P. E. Crew P. Kooky. Career. Finished dog. Yeah. So yeah, he's He's only ten weeks old he's little hallion but. It's pretty great. So now isn't Finland one of those countries that I may be wrong. Is Finland one of the countries that our President Donald Trump named as why can't we get more immigrants from countries like that Yeah. Yeah did you also see the rape thing that he did a what was that? Remind me it was So when they're clearing out for street lights. Burns and everything. He said that the president of Finland personally told him that there's no force I because they rake the forest force yeah. And he said man, we really need to give more like the Finnish citizens go out there with the rigs youthful. Now sometimes people who listened to the podcast get. Mad. If they are more conservative than I. here's the thing I'll just put it out there for anybody listening you can believe what you want to believe and I'm but I'm not gonNA hide what I believe. I am a northeastern liberal. I'm just going to ask you just someone on the ground in. Finland. How does this go over when when American? President Donald Trump expresses such an affinity for a finished raking habits. It's It's celebrated you. They now have a national raking day and everybody got a free rake. It out there and do their part now. Sounds like socialism. Socialism to me everybody gets ranked. It's you know people laugh it off and everything it's it's. People don't take politics seriously. Here's I. Feel like do in the states at least there. They. Don't have the heated political discussion that you'd have maybe back home maybe they do. I'm also very American I. Don't speak any finish. So maybe everyone's just super nice to me and then when my baxter and they start talking crap but. As far as whenever he says something silly it's really it's just laughed off, but it's also kind of a because it's like my president. Kind of wish I had somebody that wasn't making. PHILLY comments in office. No. Thanks towards the conservative listeners but that's how I feel. So it's all personal. So in your personal experience from what you can sense, there is not a massive collective effort to wake forest floors and Philip. This is not annually. When you leave the house, it's seen as a bit of a social potter leave without your but. No. Not Demand. But you say P now people aren't giving it too much gothic. I know I know that because I travel a lot for for work when I do comedy and sometimes people will hear my accent and go an American. All right here we start giving me they'll start razzing me you're not you're not. You don't deal with that too much in. Finland. you know I usually when you're out and about with your friends, they kind of know me but with strangers when they hear my accent, they'll start talking to me about trump and. Why is this happening and this happening and what's going on ice and I just try to be as civil as possible and tell them like. You know not everything in America is terrible right now 'cause I'm kind of liberal myself. I'm also on the conservative Middle Independent whatever but I tell them to look for twenty twenty that trump has shown us that you know that's the power of the vote like somebody came out of left field. No one thought he was going to win it all, and now he's the president of the United. States you know it shows the power of the American boat like I'm really excited for hopefully Tulsi. Gabbard running twenty twenty right and I usually. Brag about her and tell them to look into her and everything. So it's really easy to talk the. Talk I guess with Finnish people when it comes to politics because it's the same thing that was happening with 'cause, I was traveling whenever Bush. was in. Office and and then whenever Obama one that was a really big deal and you know there's always been a huge political swing going on as an American so. Used to it. And I at least have that thing when I travel well, people will going all your in American and I have that very convenient. I can go while I'm a New Yorker I live in New York. City and then there's like kind of I think a European fascination with New York City where you get pass where people are okay. You're you're like a quasi European vibe and then you're like, yeah, they're like you're an American where are you from and you're like Norman, Oklahoma and the. Drop Oklahoma and they just crack their knuckles and grinning and they're ready. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. They're like, okay. Let's let's let's let's get into this. I know that you're having a good night out. Too many words. Yes the word Oklahoma. Well. Let me ask you so. There is there's this fascination and correct me if I'm wrong. Finland northern Europe safe to say, right. I'm not wrong with the geography on. There's this fascination where where president trump has brought up finish. Policies a number of time and even I think I think even on the far opposite end of the American political spectrum you get. You get Bernie Sanders and a lot of people from his wing of the Liberal Party saying while socialized medicine and the northern European nations are really doing it right and then people go. Well, there's so few less people and. Kind of this place that has been quietly SORTA mythologised in the way it's constantly brought up in American politics the past couple of years. Being someone who is an American who wound up randomly in Finland wh what are the what's real lifelike they're one of the things we don't know as we just shout healthcare and rakes. The one thing that they do I think pretty low is the taxation system like for instance, in America you've got these major corporations that are. Tax Havens and tax break tax breaks, tax breaks, and then the money just goes right back into their wallets kind of thing it doesn't really happen here in America or in Finland baby what's your tax rate? How Much Do you pay on? Taxes for your paychecks. Yeah. Just you. Roughly. Let's go ahead and pause right there and what I think is probably the most romantic sentence I've ever heard baby. What's your tax rate? Speaking of taxes and commerce. 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So it's not too far off from what we'd pay back in the states and I think one thing that they do really well is that everybody pays. Everybody pays everybody pays their taxes. So there's not this huge. You know reliance on the people themselves bang for because the businesses are taxed to. Unlike the major corporations back home. So as far as money goes like I'm on the Dole right now on the unemployment thing. Which is nice. It's giving me a chance to. Study and then I'm since I'm married to a citizen, I'll get to go to school for free, which is also amazing. So they they really believe in taking care of their people and they also stretch out their hand to help others. that's one thing. It's especially in Helsinki in some areas, you'll see just tons and tons of Africans and I'm just immigrants from all over the world lots of Muslims to, and it's it's just an accepted part of the. Life of like if you've got extra food, don't make your fence taller make your table longer. And so it's really nice. I hope that. Answered your question does it does Tie Opening. So I Open I get it's it's. How do you know I mean look it up how many people live in Finland 'cause that's five, million five. So and that's about how many people live in just New York City I mean look. Looney something I think? Let me see anyway. So that's the that's That's a lot of people say. Well. It looks like New York City Has A. Eight point six million people, it's what I'm paying. Six million people. Wow. I think if I'm looking at. Yeah Eight, point, six, million so I guess that is the argument that a lot of the conservative people have is like, yeah, you can. You can You can stretch the dollar further and take care of everybody when there's five million viewers, we have almost you know. One Point Eight Hundred fifty percent of those people just in one city on one coast. Who knows who knows treat Pinot to that though because that's five million people that are paying taxes. Job Now increase that and you have more people paying taxes and more jobs being done more things being made more things being bought. The conservative mindset when it comes to like the fiscal responsibility, I feel like they just want to keep it all in the bank. Yeah you're right. You're right and I don't I don't know I. I'm slightly conservative, but then come out with this liberal. While you're citing conservative but you're living in Finland and I would imagine it rubs off on you. Imagine. I'll tell you right. It does it does bug me out and I'm not. Good at math but I live in queens right now, an Amazon just announced that the they're open a new headquarters in Long Island city, which is about three neighborhoods away from where I live and then you read about it and everybody's like Oh. That's great. It's GonNa be bring new jobs. It's like Oh yeah. Well, they're getting a three billion dollar subsidy to come here they're being. Given three billion dollars. It crazy plus it's not like they're giving fifty million or fifty thousand new jobs out there just bringing. Fifty. Thousand. New People in my that's the way we're look Seattle like they were promised like, oh, we're going to give you so many jokes. Seattle's one of the most expensive cities in the world. And just. Doesn't make sense to me how they celebrate like all this commerce and everything coming in. It's like, okay we'll. What. Exactly are we going to get out of it? What have you given back to the you know just spends is one of the richest people that's ever existed. And you know his workers aren't paid very well I'm probably GONNA get slayed by this for this by my family but. I, don't know I shop on Amazon but only when I absolutely have to because Finland's a fairly rural country but. Not, always crazy about. Amazon and Finland. They got the well, it got they pride. They got the two day shipping. They got the prime they got. Its most. It's mostly setup in Germany though that's really where you do your ordering fun from his Amazon Germany but so you can order just like me. You could go order some random crap on. Amazon look at it to you in two days in Finland and I get the same service in New York City. Yay. But the things will be different like some of the things are in a warehouse in Germany like let's say I wanted to buy. A coat rack right. But that's really cool. Coat Rack that this American company may it may not be as readily available because it's only an American warehouse so I have to. Order, it pay the extra shipping and everything but then Germany might have the exact same coat rack where they might have different kind but it's I mean say what you will about. Amazon they do provide a good serve has ended wash your record a message for. What happened Oh I don't know de it said, your son has ended a hold on I gotTa Yell at Jared Mary. Conversations not. No we're cooking we're cooking with fire over here. Hey, Harry. I don't know what that's shit was about, but never let it happen again. He's make he's pointing Jerry he's thrown jared right under the bus for that. But I think Harry. Harry sitting maybe eight feet away from any buttons that could possibly gone. What do you think? Should I work to Finland? Maybe I should move to Finland would I be happy in Finland? What sense do well and what we would do? Well. well, you really funny I've seen you in some of your shows and I've watched some of your Improv things on youtube like lanes really into you and there's a pretty big comedy circuits here. It's mostly finished but. An American. Thank you would be. Pretty pretty popular. You're saying that even though most of the comedy scene there is in finish that I could walk in and as an American you think I could clean up and the Finnish comedies seat. I think I think I think you could do well. Yeah. I really do because they also it's also a very international country so Everybody speaks English for the most part and. Yeah. I think you'd do. All right. You should at least come and visit at least one. Shows in Finland. Yeah. I will come and see and have a beer with you why don't drink beer myself but I'd be happy. What's a good finish soda? What's a good finish soft drink you know there's one called Jafar it's kind of like the Finnish version of Santa. So. That's pretty nice. It's good stuff. It's and you had said that the finished tend to bond over alcohol and that's where people at the guards as someone who is a teetotaler what does that mean? I'd a hard time socially in Finland. Not, not. Completely take the way. The drinking scene works in Finland and this everything I've said, it's from my own experience and I'm of course, not a very well educated man. But what I've noticed is that they tend to bond over alcohol. So when you buy in the Social Ruber, can they feel more comfortable because you're drinking just as much as then there's this thing. I don't know what to call I. Call it getting end, but you'll meet a guy we'll call it and like. John Right or meet. John. Who's a nice finish boy. Let's do a Finnish name. Heiki, you'll meet a man named Heiki he's a nice finish guy. You'll meet at the bar you have a drink maybe bumped into them or something. Oh sorry you know and like conversation just mildly starts only like to I you where are you from I'm from here Oh what do you think trump and then you start talking with them and suddenly you're outside having a cigarette you're laughing become really good friends right? It's great time man I'll see you later. Yeah I'm always spar you'll see him the very next night, but he's still cold sober and you'll grow up and be like, Oh Heiki, how's it going and he's like Hey. Hi like good and that's it. They have this weird thing where like. When you get drunk with them they'll show you their soul and then when they're sober. Is. Comes right back and see theory I fear Finland because I don't get drunk. So I feel like I'd be sitting there drinking soda and I only get that I don't really get the. Sober Heiki and I want drunk Niki. He sounds fun. You can have drunk Achey to you have drunk Achey to. Cigarettes and I don't drink. So I deal, you just have to do without but I mean people, it's not gonNA stop anybody like you're not drinking. I won't drink. I've never heard anybody infringement. Back. Explain to them I. Have I have a lot of Irish blood in my veins? So I need to be careful and then they'll all laugh because. All right the Irish, and then the law laugh over that everyone. Yeah. There's there's always there's always some excuse i. you can always give them. It won't be a problem. Moved to Finland. To get drunk, you don't have to get drunk to enjoy the finish drinking culture. That's one thing I should definitely say you don't have to get drunk but at a certain point, you know when you're like the designated driver at a party. Past that point where people are fun to where they're drunk. Yeah. Yeah. I. Know that you're not drunk. Yes. So yeah that that might happen quite a bit. Used to that. That was the entirety of my life from the age of twenty one forward. People drunk people are like, where have to go like? No I'm not judging you having fun. throwing. In the back of my car and I am judging them but I don't know. Because I I don't want to be a social pariah. I I can tell you this that they start a lot later for instance, like if I have a really big night out not getting home until four, but I also haven't started until like midnight. Eleven. You're talking to a New York City resident over here. That's how we have to. That's how we do that. It's the same way. It's the same way in Finland. So you you won't have to worry about that that lie until about one o'clock two o'clock and I guess it doesn't matter if it's done twenty one hours of the day. You just stay out all night if you feel like it. Yeah pretty much. It's it's called going until sunlight which doesn't really have any. Injuries. But. All right and. A lot of that weird fish up there. A lot of fish up in Finland right? man they got the best fish like pickled herring. I know it sounds really gross, but it is the best thing especially when they it and vodka comes in these little jars. Immediately, looped back around to alcohol. Well that's my favorite kind. 'CAUSE IT gives it that kick but they also picked it normally with vinegar and then they fill it with like cream and dill lots and lots of salmon like best salmon I've ever had all next ribe read if you like Rye bread, there's something about the water here. Incredible. Get some pickled herring lay it out on some Rye bread. Oh Yeah Yeah. Actually like a normal finish breakfast is usually like bread from slices of Cheese News Lee Yogurt, and that's maybe some tomatoes. And then if it's a kind of a fancier occasion, you have the fish. Usually smoked salmon, which is just. I. Love. Smoked. Salmon. They got that search drumming up there is that just Swedish? Do you know sir? I know what it is. Hey. Baby assures from more of like a Swedish thing. You know that like rotten fish. I, think I think it's finishing origin. Had it but I've heard of it and it's something to avoid. I tell Ya my TV show one of the great participants in this show, we had a fellow named Stellan from Sweden great great guy used to call in all the time great guy. and. He lived in Sweden and he told us you guys don't have the guts to open up a canister roaming in your studio and I knew nothing about it but I said. Nobody from Sweden it's going to call a bunch of Americans and say we don't got the guts to do any. So he sent us a couple of this stuff and I tell you we opened it up in the studio, and if you watch this episode I'm telling you you can see you can track inch by inch as that cloud of smell spreads because you see people. Their faces just dropped people are getting up and sprinting away people start screaming people are making these like involuntary gut heaving noises that stuff was for real that's. Fish. One of my finish friends here said when he opened up a can of his entire body just told him that's poison and I can tell that you're not going to listen to your brain. So I have to involve every other extremity into this like his knees got leak his sweating like the vile started building up its you don't mess with that stuff. Yeah. I I will tell you that my experience with searched drumming I've explained to. It I don't know how to explain the smell better than to say that it felt as if I had been punched in the face with a wet ashtray that's. That's the Lakers said I've never experienced it but that sounds. Good enough for me that I know I don't need to. Watch out for that search drumming. You think you. Think you'RE GONNA go ahead no I was GonNa say do you think you're going to spend your whole? You think you're in Finland for good or you think you're going to travel the world more or come back to America? What's the plan you man right now like, okay you really quick to to to all of your listeners. This is something they need to know about. Wing you have your green card. This is something. The movies never tell you first off. Did you get your green card is one of the most difficult things? It's not like you see these movies were like. Oh get kicked out of the country tomorrow and I need to do a marriage, improve it, and then they're like, oh, there you and then they get married and then to Larry's hijinks Sandra Bullock and Ryan Reynolds. That's not how it works. It is long and painful process. So anyways, we went through that process. My wife and I remarried we got married in a small town in Arizona. We did everything correctly we get the green card then we realize okay. Let's try to make it work in Finland. We asked one of the one of the Immigration Agents Hey, is it okay if we lived instilling? But then come back to America for like a week or two. So that way we don't have to abandon the green card he said yeah absolutely. That is incorrect. There's a thing called abandonment whenever you get your green card. So for instance, and then I moved to Finland if even if we came back every like month or so immigration would start getting really really suspicious like what are you guys doing? Why are you always in Finland? It's not a right. Once you get a green card is not a right. You don't just get to keep it. We had to send the Green Card back. We want to move back to then we have to go through the whole process all over again. So just Anybody that wants to marry a foreign national just just keep in mind that a green card is not something that once you get you get just keep it. It's it's a privilege not a right. To. Tell you something about me my friend. I am a dual citizen of America and Ireland. So that will never be a problem for me. Race Nice sorry road I could go it is filling in the EU I forget. We're in the EU, but technically, we're not Scandinavian. Now grow. Way Cooler Yeah as far as coming back to America, I'd like to love them their guy loved ones in state. It's my home my family's there. Some of my family, my friends are there. And it's a great place. But as of right now I really WANNA go to school for Free My wife is working finish embassy like things are just going really well here. So for now, we'll just keep put you break phones all the time. About more me let me ask you this. Let me ask you this on a basic level. Those of us live in the states right now, those of us who grew up here. I tell you it's a pressure cooker. For a lot of us I we put out an episode of this show just a weeks prior to when you and I are talking where in the reaction to the very same episode. Had people tell me that they were unsubscribe because they felt I'd been disrespectful to President Trump and in the very very same reaction people tell me they were unsubscribe because they felt like I had said a bunch of things that made me feel like I had Kinda sold out the liberal cause all in the same. Same Episode reared. But also, I'm like proud of it because it means you have these conversations are layered and not simple that being said. It makes me realize we are barraged by the news cycle right now we are barraged by you know at times actual literal hour by hour updates of political happenings. You're able to go to a a a SORTA perspective far flung corners of the world for an American to wind up in. Being that you're not. In the pressure cooker although it sure you keep up with it you mentioned your family. In. A. butthead on certain things all that aside being outside of the states right now you just said you love America. What are the things that you miss about your home country? What are the things you love about that place because you might be uniquely position I think a lot of us who are here right now feel a little beaten down being on the inside what are the things from the outside that just in simple as you're like, no, I love I love my home country. And let's pause there. 'cause a I think that's a pretty good question. I think the answer is going to be really fascinating that you wanna hear it. We're GONNA go with the cliffhanger and let's remember that that oftentimes lately on this show, you bring a politics divides us, but let's remember it's all because we love this place. We're GONNA hear. From our caller, what he loves about his home cut human get back. 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Love I love my home country. One thing that feel like a lot of people. When you ask somebody in the states like you're talking to your check out. And you've got a big line of Grocery. So you got a minute you know it's caused your take on and they say, Oh, good. You Know Getting Ready for whatever holiday and like that small talk that can sometimes they'll do something more. Maybe, not always but like. The People in Finland? Very it's like business all the time and I'm not saying they're not warn people but in Finland. There's this kind of like don't talk to strangers. That's kind of weird like it's a Social Faux Pas But if you America like talking to strangers like you have the opportunity to like walk past somebody and say, that's a really great sweater and you look good in it you know just a random person and say you know whatever you want to them in a friendly way and most of the time it'd be like Oh. Thank you very much you can. Reach out to people, random people and just. Kind of be yourself in America and you're not always the case but in Finland, it's much harder to do. It's. It's really weird if you give people compliments but. In the states you can. You can just make somebody's Day. You can just make somebody's day like that. Just say like Oh hey, I like your haircut or hey, like you know like the car you're driving or whatever, and that's something that I really miss it's a stupid silly thing to mess but I kinda missed just being able to. Talk to strangers. So it's the bill. It's the yeah definitely. The people. Do. Think that sometimes man I do think that I've noticed when I travel internationally and you know oftentimes I'm around other comedians and stuff and comedians like give each other hard time. But a Lotta Times people give Americans a hard rap you know, Oh, you're obnoxious You know the loud mouth terrorists and. Whatnot but I'm like, I. Don't know man 'cause honest to God. I've been around a lot of people and I think I think you're right. Then I'm like a grassroots ground level human-to-human level. It's American people pretty pretty good even in. New York where we're not nice to each other people look after each other still they help each other out. Yeah man always that that's one thing that is just. I love Americans and I'm never going to say that I'm not American like I'm never going to be you know who I'm Canadian. So I can just bypass all the bullshit like. Except the bullshit and I accept the good stuff to. For a lot of us we still think there's There's a lot of good in the guts of absolutely absolutely things always better things always get better. I hope. So I hope. So you know one of the good things about doing this show where I talked to so many different types of people that I am thoroughly convinced that. Even those of us who have wildly different opinions from each other are all are all recognizing more and more of that? The the way the discourse happens is problematic in that we all want that to get better. Absolutely, a lot of people with different ideas of how things should be but. Who I think are recognizing more and more that. This ain't the way to do it the same town. Absolutely agree think. Things are bad now maybe but the things always get better like the American people we have a voice we can talk to each other. We can be civil to each other and I'm open conversations about these things and I. Always get better. You just got to believe that that's what I try to believe every day. I think so. If you like small talk if you like small talk and making. I tell you the only 'cause I. I would agree I would agree that Americans are good at it and like you said, you can make somebody's Day. Here's two places I've been though if you really want your day made with small to. Go to Ireland or you go to Sri Lanka. Opposites, those are the nicest people in the world the two places I've been where you go to Ireland Man. You go to Ireland you WanNa talk about like you go on like someone saying Nice sweater and you can make their day you go to Ireland I mean. Guy Like. Me was walking down the block. I feel like I couldn't get from one end of the block to the other without somebody like saying or doing something kind. To check it out crank. Thanks. Rocko. My God that little islands is a special place. We could put out three lock in number. Next time. Jared can we get? Tom Replace I wanted to keep I was international. I would love to hear that I. Hope that you're next caller is actually finished. Well, you get a little bit more of a culture flavors and I'm very tempted to call back your Berlin friend and say, Hey, you've hoodwinked to me a little bit on this one very rich. She is a very fascinating person. She would love that she talks about your show all the time should we can we get them back on the line at the same time jared jared looking this up because I feel like you had a great conversation but. We have technically a I don't know if you even do you know the show well enough to know that there's a countdown clock on this. No I don't I I haven't listened Griffith show at times. You don't even know yet. Technically, you can hang up whenever you want, but we got up to nineteen minutes left. But if you've gotta go I'm happy to call that. German back and say what was that bullshit? WanNa hear. You want to call the German back three way. Let's do it. Yeah, she'll be available. Jared name is. Okay I'm not supposed to know that another one of the the show is that it's anonymous but that's okay. We've all said are. Who Cares? So. Jared. What do we think? Thumbs up thumbs down as it's going to be able to happen. We thinking over here. Oh she has to call how do we facilitate us? Texas. Call, Yeah Yeah can we please? So is your wife's cousin yeah yeah. I'm having my wife Texture right now and I guarantee you as the phone in your hand because she wants to know how it went. Okay. Yeah. So we're texting or on our end. You text her on your we're GONNA get back on the line. Because look, she did a good thing she does up with so in Finland but I. Got To put the we got a hold her feet to the fire on this one a little. Totally yeah. She needs to know her lane. Yeah seriously if there's one thing that I need to personally do right now it is skuld your German cousin and law. I'm super excited for this. She's off as this. Hello. My name okay, we'll be it out. We'll beep it out. I'm sorry I didn't mean to put you on the spot and so your name, but I'm a little. I'm a little mad. You're right now. We'll be good. Don't worry. You. You, you call me. You call me you say I got this great finish person free talk to you. Next thing I know I'm on the phone for forty minutes with some guy from Norman Oklahoma. Yeah. I thought that he was just calling to like you said, there was this number available and then all of a sudden he tells me he's disappointed I'm not finished I. Don't know what's going on you both under the bus. Oh, God. Sorry this is being recorded right now just so you know. We're GONNA do now. This is really weird. Like, Oh, we all three on the Third Reich all three of us are on the phone right now and I want some answers. Goes from Oklahoma. I told jared this but I. I apparently forgot to tell you. You knew this the whole time minute jared. Jared claiming he had no idea. This was an Oklahoman. Oh. No I. Definitely. We've got an international. Jared's now jumping jared jared looks actually man. Jared furious that he's being accused of this he stomping around, he just broke something. Studio he just broke a lamp Harry ran out of the room fear. Come she asking is caught on fire. I will have to momentarily. When the fire spreads. No I WANNA thank you. Go for it. What were you gonNA say? No I said I'm I'm part finished I. Can partly make up for the mistake. Oh there's no. Partly Finnish person no all jokes aside. It was. So it was what a cool thing that you connected us all together. Now, we get to be here on this three way phone call. Really Cool. So. So how's you bet we've been great. We've had a great talk. Now. The your your cousin, why am I here now because I thought it would be funny to call you up and yell at you when I 'cause. I've been saying I. Feel I felt a little hoodwinked but I thought it would be funny and you seem so good natured that it seemed like you might get a kick out of it if we got back to you. Kind of. Cake. Okay. I'm having the biggest of my life now you're. Life because. Christmas, present by the way this Christmas. I'm not getting anything else. Now, your cousin's husband has told me that he thinks my comedy would do well in Finland. Do you agree as someone who is part fit? Really one hundred percent why? Why they all speak perfect. Well, they stick. Perfect. English. So there won't be like a language barrier thing where they don't get subtle jokes in nuances and Not, to fall into the stereotypical view, a Finnish people but They are kind of on the melancholic side. I think you're sarcastic humor which is going to do well with them. Liked that. I liked that you very kindly said sarcastic humor instead of saying a guy who talks about being suicidal they claims it's comedy would be really great. Here. No Pun intended. The photo. Now, another thing I've learned about Finnish people via the Lens of the Oklahoma Link between us I'm a little worried about visiting Finland because he says most of the time the way you can bond with Finnish. is through alcohol I don't drink alcohol. So I'm worried that go there and to be very lonely. Side note side note I said through my experience. Yes. All through the Lens of his personal experience Yeah Yeah I think we can all agree that not. That we're not putting everyone in boxes but Yeah I mean I I i. think it's difficult for me to say 'cause. 'cause it's my family but I think like the people that I've. come across most. Mostly is my family and extended family so. I don't know I I don't know. I think I think you would be completely fine. I think your humor would would would be enough I think you don't need the coach. Okay don't need. Okay that's another check. Okay. Now, another thing is if I went to Finland, my wife would wanna come but she loves warm weather and I've heard that it gets dark I've been told by our Oklahoma link that it gets dark at three PM in Finland. Yes. If. You're in the here in the summer. It's bloody. Amazing. The Sun never sets really. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You should go into summer but beware the Muzzi's of what they are but they are. Mosquitos. Mosquitos. Muzzi's. Big. And really slow the Modi's are really big and really so so you can catch them but there's a lot of them like a Zombie, muzzy? Not a yeah it's difficult that asleep sometime there's giants slow moving mosquitoes that you're at constant war with in finished summers. Now, it's pretty extreme like once talk like once the sun starts to set like or gets a little bit more Dusky 'cause the sun doesn't fully set. It gets real blank. You'll see in most people's like vacation homes. There's big huge like blood smears on the wall. From people just like seeing a mosquito and then slapping it and realizing the mosquito just fed and so there's all these little bloodstains if you were. So you're telling me Oh, your wife wouldn't. Come in the summer where the ball the walls are smeared with blood shall love that. I mean it's Sounds like a great place to if you're if you're looking for alibi for murder, you just rent a Finnish airbnb in the summer. And they won't be able to tell which bloodstains are wish. Rate. But, you should really come. It's it's a beautiful place. It's. I. Feel like it's where the mind can be at ease and you can just. Be Yourself and just enjoy nature and. Yeah. It's. It's. There's not a lot of people there and it's a big country so. There's a lot of space for every single. and. You can really feel that if you're in the countryside, let's let's plan my. European comedy tour I've played. England I've played Ireland. If memory serves correct. Those are the only countries I've ever done comedy in. In Europe. And England England's not even really in Europe in a few months, oh God. So I'm saying. You're telling me to go to Berlin you're telling me I would be huge in Helsinki where else? Absolutely where else does a depressed? Comedian with a large forehead play well in your. Bike pretty much anywhere up north where the sun is always setting 'cause they're like. They're they're. Big On depression but they're they're big impression they they know a thing or two about it so. So you guys are telling me that me just because I am a publicly depressed man. Northern European is an northern Europe is an untapped market for me. Absolutely. Yeah. Maybe late I may not agree but I agree. No I'm surprised. You haven't figured. What's the most depressed country in? Europe? Where's the? What's the most depressed where she who the real said sex? Where can I go and just be King? Well Helsinki a good place to start. They'll point you in the right direction. Okay. Yeah I can't speak for any other country. where I can't I can barely speak. Finland. Are there any are there any? Are there any cities. Particularly in the Lapland area that put on a comedy show. Badly. Laser. That brings comedy to Lapland Oh, God I would love that that would be so funny there'd be set on a resume I wanNA perform comedy somewhere so far north that That they. I'm like one of those old time he explorers where one hundred years they're still trying to recover my frozen body. That's. Comedy. Who knows? Maybe someday, I'll get out there and tell my wife everybody's telling me to go to Finland and she'll say who's everybody I'll say to strangers on a phone. I highly recommended. Okay. Okay now, if I could only do one Berliner Helsinki honestly which one of my goals. well, I'M GONNA go in my hometown. Helsinki. It unit. Testing A. Berlin. is a place where it's like everybody does art all the time and. And drugs are safe and legal and. It's like it's utopia this art. Is Sadder and I think that they need it more than they need to laughter more. I'm probably not cool enough Berlin either is the unspoken thing. No. You're definitely cool. I think Berlin now is like everyone's Walking around in the ninety s closed because apparently that's in again and you like the Weirdo you are the cooler you are actually so I think everyone should just come to Berlin because it's just It's a it's a really nice face chance to everyone's really artsy fartsy and I don't know. But yeah, we had a we had a caller from Copenhagen a few months back that sounds like a great place I remember Okay Copenhagen Helsinki the beautiful and on jared would you come to Finland to record these? nope he shook his head no, he's not coming. I didn't even finish the sentence. Yeah. I. Didn't even finish the sentence. Indicating that no. To hire somebody. To Finland. WanNa come to. Come to Finland. Me and my sister does My sister does podcast so she can record you. Got You covered book we'll make it happen. We'll make it. Okay. Well, technically, we have six minutes left I'm GonNa be bald-faced and say that I've had a lot of fun. I don't know how much I have left to say. So it's really up to you guys what we do from here. I I've I've had a really great time to, but I'm tapped I've also never had a conversation this long before. The phone. So ever ever maybe with my mom, but that's that's about it. Well, I'm happy to. Bring it to this whole new world and to my thanks Mike Berlin friend I would sincerely this has been an extremely fun episode. And we got to talk about a lot. Yes I wanNA thank you in Helsinki and I wanNA thank our Berliner for coordinating it any final words from Berlin. I am just very happy that you two met virtually for. Phone and I'm Yeah I. I I don't know I just think This show is amazing and I just completely. Knocked over that I'm. Talking to you. Yeah. I don't know I'm glad you had done that I did and I'm glad that I got to talk to both of you. It is really a tree and I will say the idea you think about one hundred years ago in the idea that somebody in Helsinki and Berlin and New York could just have a random real-time unplanned conversation for an hour at a moment's notice. It would have been impossible and I feel really lucky that I get to that. My job is to mess around on the phone and do things like this. It was pretty cool. It was fun. It was pretty fun. WanNa come try that same ending. She was talking Shit saying that has the best smoked salmon ever. Yeah. I did yesterday you did my mom was in Finland. How was it eat? It. Eat the salmon. Go. Yeah come tell some jokes and we'll give you salmon. Yes I refused to money I only WANNA be played paid in salmon and pickled herring. That's all I'm pretty sure yet is the only form of currency in Lapland. So good. It'll be a real son of a bitch to convert that at the airport but all. The. Okay. Well, thanks for talking to me for so long and I I. I will start listening to your show more often. Thanks so much. That's how. That's how we build ratings on this show. I call people one at a time and hope they get onboard. Thank you so much. You got another so. Okay. I'M GONNA. Go good-bye everybody. High. Berlin. Thank you so much to our. Finnish. American friend. AMERICAN FINISH FRIEND OR AMERICAN EXPERT IN. Finland. Thank you to our Berlin go-between. Thank you for the International Web that we won't in this call. Thank you off. Thank you, Jared Mary. Hart time in the booth on this one having fun. Thank you Justin. Lin Ville for helping my whole life take a shell shock for the music. If you WanNa, know about me when I'm out there doing shows on the road. Chris Gift Dot Com. Is the website on the road all the time check out. He liked beautiful anonymous go to apple podcasts rate reduce scrap. It really helps when. It's all the business. Interesting you next time on. Beautiful. Next. Time I'm beautiful anonymous. Every once in a while somebody out there breaks and has to rebuild and our callers right in the middle of that process. My friend met with the above of our I had accidental breakdown in public crying hyperventilating. and. That's when I just like, wow I need to get everything together though the next may not I found a therapist and I. Tell. You. You were bringing back some feelings and some memories not felt in a long time because I've been, I've been a strikingly similar spot I say this with no disrespect and with total compassion your story but to hear such an intense story and then you keep dropping the syllables Bopha throughout the. Is a weird new dark laugh moment for me and as a comedian I have to win out. So I'm losing my mind and I'm convinced going to hell and I went down to the Bobo Bar. To. Get. Trying into my Boba. That's next time on beautiful anonymous.

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Key West (Part One)

The Complete Guide to Everything

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Key West (Part One)

"This is a head gum podcast. Hello and welcome to the League. That everything a podcast about everything. I am your and I'm Tim. How're you doing the Tim? Tam Rundown well. I am hopped up. I'm relaxed relaxed and hopped up or two very. I'm all. I'm relaxed now. I'm on the way up. You're on the upswing. Yeah Taken Time. A couple of poppers. Yeah what all the kids are doing. Nowadays Jalapeno poppers Jalapeno poppers yet tim. They've got cheddar cheese on the inside and Nice Fried breading on the outside Tom. Caskey something Do you ever have these. How opinion published with cream cheese in them. Instead of. Yeah you'd think they'd be gross but their sublime. Look I'll take a paper anyway get it. Now what's poppers the drugs hoppers? The drugs are aimal nitrate is saying. I think it's a thing that's as saying. I think it makes you real high for like a few seconds and then gives you like a crushing headache. Like it's a real dumb drug to take I've never I'm not a drugs person tongue. Is it like a whip it? Yeah I think it's similar to that and that's when you take a an aerosol can like ready whip whipped cream it up and you suck in the gas because when you hold it up the whip cream doesn't match us the gas comes out and you suck that and again it makes you feel real good for a few seconds. But it's like you know cutting off the oxygen to your brain or whatever and and Somebody's gonNA actually the bed. Shut up Yeah No. I'm afraid that if I try any kind of drug or whip. It isn't a drug. It's just it's the first time it's along the lines of Sniffing Model Airplane Glue Right. Yeah there's a few different things like that. That can I think make you feel good for a few seconds but then either bad for your brain but be. They heard a lot. I think like yeah. Get a headache from them. So I think the IDEAS. That's fine to do once or twice but like if you're looking at your terrible role model if you're looking to drugs go find some real drugs. Yeah the supermarket and the model train store and get down to your local park and find some real drugs from a man selling them the Internet the dark web yeah. I had an expired Whipped cream It my refrigerator. Yeah well that sure do some whip cream but probably the gas is still good. I could see how whip it's like even without the the high. The fleeting high of chemicals in your bread could be satisfying kiss as I am. I going to get rid of this this this this this can yeah wanted to explode say stood over the sink rents of hot water and just Turned out it was the best thirty seconds of my life. 'cause like search in tears as it as it just as it as it just loses all the compressed strangling the life out of a man exactly but In with cream form. Yeah I'm more wholesome. I had a similar experience. That was not as Satisfying which was I got a letter. That the Fire Extinguisher. I bought was recalled and sent me a new fire extinguisher registered. You're when you bought it registered with the local fire department. Let's go you just. You just wanted to hang out at the fire guys help. I got one of these. That kitchen sized fire extinguishers Lewis calendars extra floating around you guys do those beefcake calendars at this firehouse. Or what heavy fire. Not at every firehouse where they're stupid because we don't have any funding and it's like yeah. We'll get together. Take off your shirt and make it. Dan Calendar once in a while. Because if you go some of these fire houses sometimes don't have any guys you want to see that way. I don't know I don't think it's about the Physique Tom. I think it's about the mystique. Their sounds that's the attitude now. It's it's the physique. You WanNA see some hunky firefighters this supermarket right across the street from a firehouse. Yeah and so. You'd always see the firefighters doing their shopping. Yeah there's a fire house near me. That shops at the supermarket near me and the insane amount of stuff. But like I've always just kind of starstruck. Louis Thank you for your service folks and one time. I this little kid who his mom's like oh well they'll say hi and this kid was was all starstruck like I was and went up and started shaking their hands and taking pictures and that gave you the courage to do it. This kid was in a full firefighters. What uniform and I wasn't sure if they were just a coincidence her but I guess kids once in a while just like I guess. I'll just go out today. Dressed as a firefight stage for your benefit there to this day there is a kid in our grade school in my grade school once wearing a astronaut outfit and it did not go well for him. How old was he Like too old to be doing that. Unlike Bri like fifth grade. Yeah that would fly now. May well the important part of this was. It was not very stem education. Important part of this was is not a very accurate? Astronauts here is basically dislike a shiny astronaut suit not an astronaut suit is a shiny onesie with an astronaut style hood but a soft hood. Why did this person wear it? I don't know that's where they asked before they started relentlessly mocking him wearing it. When I was in fifth grade and Superman died a classmate came in wearing the black armband that came with. Abc's morning but everybody is like why are you wearing that? And he realized Oh no. This isn't cool so you said my mom made me wear it but that's not true. Nobody's mom makes an armband morning superman now a days. I could see a mom doing it but in the Etienne. Yeah 'cause are stupid generations diseased minds. Ooh Comic Books. I feel strongly about the death of a fictional character but back then no. She was a single mom to. Yeah Yeah there is no way she. She had the time to Issues probably on our way to work. He's like no mom. You have to pin the armband. Because I remember that armband came into school late that day because you don't buy reserve him. It was fine but he's he's still went and got it. Yeah I got one copy that I opened the first day. I had two copies. I open one. One I believe is still sealed to the say in a still relatively worthless. Oh do you have in safe deposit box? No He's not really worth anything. It's a comic book box at the Armband worth are worth it. What about the comic sealed in the in the polly bag is worth like five dollars? Maybe now it might be worth more than that seal. Maybe it's worth twenty dollars. Gone bad not bad. It's not a good return on investment. How much did you pay for it? I think the I think it was probably four or five dollars to buy when it came out It was probably on the higher end right Let's see what it's going for on Ebay. Latronic THE HELL. We even get on this. I was GonNa say oh I was GonNa tell you that win win I got this letter about my fire extinguisher and there were like we'll send you a new fire extinguisher either. Send the old one back to us which require like going to fedex or they were like you know Empty it and then dispose of it properly. Recycle it like I'll Dude in the shower. Because I've always wanted to shoot a fire extinguisher of never while I was seeing a shower but I figured the shower we'd can find your Nari would confine the foam It didn't we knew shoe on the spicing wishers. It just like shoots powder everywhere. Thisiis cough a lot. It's it's like Carbon monoxide is our beds. No it's just like it's just like dust it's like some kind of powder that I guess. Suffocates the fire. Did you think we'd come foam? I though is going to be like like a whip cream thing but it wasn't. It was a foam thing and then my apartment just had foam all over it. How do I get day? Yeah powder rather foam? I could have a party in the field. The fire extinguishers powder instead of with this guy a letter. I'll tell you what happened. I got that fire extinguisher that I bought for like fifteen dollars or whatever twice. They replace it they had recalls and I was like. This is too much trouble guy. Come up plan on start. It was it was the the gold. Standard of fire extinguishers Decatur say the name of the Brand Kid Kitty K. I D like that. That's the fire extinguisher. That's out there on the market right now. Yeah and you know you go out shopping. That's the one they're going to get a professional grade but the second time they had to replace it was like guys. Look I plan on starting to fire my apartment? The first place. You haven't lived until you start Fires record recreationally in your in your look. I've heard a few years in this apartment. Knock on wood. I have never lit my kitchen on fire and I find that to be Unlikely that would be the case. It'd be too. I've never scalded myself. I'd like burnt myself like Burma fingers a little bit here and there sometimes the purpose of the time you watch these. Tv shows You read these cookbooks and they tell you you gotta taste your food as your as your eaten extreme hot yeah everytime I try to taste it. It's too hot and if I do manage like anyway it's I can't taste anything and also going restaurants backing the restaurant. The chefs lick everything. Yeah Gross I. That's why only package food the. Yeah I bet if you win if you spent five minutes in the kitchen of any restaurant you'd never go to every time I mean we'll get we'll get to the topic at hand shortly but part of it was that I was like eating out all week which I never do and restaurant. Yeah and every time I was facing like a kitchen and like the door would ova bag. I don't WanNa see what's going on back there. Please just let me eat an ignorant now. Is it because you have no respect for the staff? No because it's like I might see something gross so the one time I saw. They were receiving a delivery and they had like a big bag of Ano- coconuts or something and they put a sealed plastic. You know it wasn't like a net. It was a sealed plastic bag and they put it on. The floor will asir receiving delivery in my mind. I know that's fine. Why it's using the hair of the coconut right but just seeing something on the floor. How man one time I was at the Gr- I was walking by the grocery store near me and I saw these guys delivering bread and they were delivering your hot dog rolls and one of the hot dog rolls. One of the bags fell in a puddle and they picked up and put it back on the thing. It's like God plastic bag. Yeah plus years. That's why that's why God God Tim for the last time got didn't invent plastic alluded to earlier. The topic of this week's did you. Yeah I said I will be talking about why I was going to restaurants every I just got back from vacation the lady I was one of the hardest weeks. Yeah you're talking about a little bit off my peeling away. You're like Oh God this week right before we were about to record I was like Hold on I'll start recording. You can bitch about your week like stuff. I could talk about on this show. It's fine everything's fine but it's one of those times where every everything's going on at once. Yeah and there's like no respite. Like right is busy and then I have things going on when I when I get home. I'm working on as well and it's all I WANNA do is sit down and watch television. I've done a fair national as part of the reason why everything's so heck. Yeah I probably could have been done. Better Tim. I was while you were Ryan running someone's got to keep things gillet around here while you're running around in the rat race. I was Living it up. I was relaxing in key. West Florida as part of a rat. Race of your own I was there for a rat race competition I was I was. It was much like the film. Rat Race starring. Everybody yeah pretty much everybody that you love. It's a Mr Bean in it. Yeah Well Rowan Atkinson. Not Actually Mr. Bean smashmouth were they. Yeah I got to see this movie. Who is the titular rat What's his name was in at Seth Green? I think he was Brechin. Meyer with the N. Yeah probably if th was in it. It was a cannonball run style movie. If I'm not mistaken or it's a mad mad mad mad world right do you remember? When do you ever see that movie? Now he was all the comedy legend. It's although the comedy legends. They pass their pride at your like the old man talked about this. The three stooges there but cooked up dialysis machines or something they just like. There's like. Oh these guys and it's it's just three impossibly old man and they're like oh no Jack Benny's there you know those things. I feel like that's one thing that's changed. Nowadays Comedy Legends Age Better Rich. Yeah I guess that's really what it is that like the three stooges all died poor. So it's like yeah they're all Larry's like every day with a wrench forty five years. It's I've C. T. E. I can't remember anything. Larry Larry is underrated. Of course the three stooges aren't the three stooges unless they got all of them. Yeah I mean currently within so few right anyway Jim. I went to Key West Florida for vacation a week long vacation. I've not been on a week long vacation and I don't I can't tell you how long what kind of sad state of affairs is it. Where when you said you were like we had to look again. We adjust our recording schedules. Very minorly but you were You said I'm going on vacation. I seven eight a seven day long vacation and and similarly mention the song nine to five what. Listen to the song nine to five thing. They're complaining about having a nine to five job. Yeah I would kill for that. Yeah I know we both know multiple people that have gotten more corporate type jobs after working for startup type companies. And they're like. Oh It's so nice I get to leave at five. This is amazing but Dali is all. I have to work nine to five while. She's famously lazy famously. Not Hardworking yet. isn't that isn't that. A smart tactic aid. You want to be an aunt. Dolly Parton PODCASTS universally beloved. Jesus that would paint the biggest target on our back. You could ever Michelle Obama. Just kidding to them unstoppable stoppable so yeah week long vacation. I'm more of a Mark Linn Baker. I just feel like this show needs to be about something and I think If we'RE MARK. Linn Baker stands then like that's what this show like detriment of Dolly Parton. No Dally dallied commented on talking about a more of a Mark Linn Baker Guy. What the Hell is I mean? Because he's great of course that at least that's not something that you point that everybody shares. But what do you know about his life? Outside of the rules. He's played official actor But you don't know if like oh he. Here's his take on How many hours of work I many hours a week. You should be working. I mean he keeps it to himself type in your googling. How many hours a week does Mark Linn Baker thing people should work? Yeah okay forty forty hours a week okay. Every time I asked him onstage on Broadway no yeah and Funny thing happened on the way the formulas great the ninety six revival. Yeah Oh when? He stepped out on stage team. I didn't know I that was easily the most starstruck I've ever been in my life then. We're very disappointed. But you're like well surely pal come at any moment. Now I can Nathan Lane was delightful as well. You know. In one thousand nine hundred eighty three he appeared in a Broadway version of the DOONESBURY comic strip. Why would they have done that sailing? I went to key west. And what you were saying Tim. After seven days I was actually kind of itching to get home but at the same time also because I felt like all my responsibility I was too anxious like I went from relaxed the anxious. I gotta get back like things are falling apart. I'm not keeping tabs of everything over really. Yeah when I went on my honeymoon to Hawaii. Rub It in again that I wasn't invited Tom. You were invited. Well I couldn't make it. I pointedly actually. Your wife pulled me aside and told me she would prefer. I didn't come really yeah Yeah She she didn't. She doesn't like you Tom. I was GONNA it's GonNa keep up the charade that's weird because she she speaks highly of you and she hates your guts. Yeah that's too much work to keep that. Sharia I come here and I do this every week. And then you have to go home and sleep on the couch. No she doesn't know she doesn't Know No. Oh you tell them at the Strip club you're gonNA get whacked with a rolling pin when you go to find out. One day I had to cover myself in glitter in perfume. Yeah just down at the Strip club with with with my scumbag friends or Tom. Though right so I'm not one of your scumbag Paul McKenna. Yeah what was I saying? Oh Yeah I I. Maybe two weeks was I think at the end of the first week anxious to get back like feel like the like. I don't deserve this right. Yeah but then by the end of the second week you get to this place where it's like. No there's no life now I never want to go back. Don't make me go back. Oh God I have to go back. This is terrible maybe maybe I can run away forever That I was having both those feelings at the same time of not. Bring a little runway forever. I guess there was a book at one of the Gift Shop said was called something. I had to quit your job and move to key west. The complete guide thinking about issuing a cease and desist at least ripped the covers off and these are remainders. Now send back but by the the last couple of days. There is definitely a little bit of scheming of like well. Could do the show over skype could do. I can rate anywhere Tom. If you move to key West That'd be fine but we we'd end this. This wouldn't be a thing. Yeah every week I like to you and your frigging Tommy Bahama's Schwartz. Every week. I would be on the show saying like oh I have a problem with anything. Everything's fine drinking drinking coca my ties out of coconut but yeah unfortunately. I have to live in New York to have enough stuff to complain about. Body guess why do you live in New York? I don't know because you know what any of us live here. It's a city that's got it. All what Doonesbury music cruiser musical which I believe is still running. Yeah don't know I mean key. West isn't cheap to live in either but it is a lot lot nicer you know what? I think the main I realize what the main drive key West no income tax in Florida Is it no income taxes that what their thing is think so no state income tax? Okay yeah yet to pay the federal. Hey can't seize property I believe is the other thing. That'S WHY O. J. moved there. Now I know about Florida's laws compromise. I knew about the law in general like well. You can't do double jeopardy but you can have a civil case so Yeah Key West Florida. What was really nice about it is that it's it's the Caribbean essentially. You're in a tropical climate. But you still have all the trappings of Like the rest of America that simultaneously makes our country Really Nice Really Shitty Which is like a CVs? Walgreens are open twenty four hours restaurants and bars that are open late. Yeah because I liked just. There's such a comfort this why when we go to the UK. And I guess you're right in Europe there's such anxiety on my part of like well if I don't have everything I need by five o'clock I'm GonNa have to wait until nine o'clock in the morning for yes and eight that as well and I also hate this. Never WanNa stay must Sunday either because the only thing that's open on a Sunday is a Sunday roast right and I don't actually need anything usually but it's that anxiety of well what if I do. I mean you've been there a bunch of times and you've seen how like I'll just stock up. I was by like ten sandwiches and a bunch of water is like. I'm preparing for the apocalypse. I mean I'm the same way I chose to live in New York because it's like well at two. Am If I WANNA hamburger. This is the only there's multiple options. So that's and I think you know the actual the rest of the Caribbean. It is actually relaxed. And it is actually. We can't get shit at night. You can't get shit on Sundays but this is American enough in Floridian enough. It's like no everything's still open all the time. Yeah there's still a cater to your every whim we'll some poor bastard. Earning minimum wage. That has to sit in a drugstore under fluorescent lights at three. Am on a Tuesday. You know what I found out a like a lot of the Like a Restaurant Workers Embar SAF and stuff. That worked down there. Fueled by cocaine. We know they work on. They live on Like boats because you can just dock your boat in the in the harbor or whatever and you know you're you're you're that's fine. You can stay there as long as you want. So ally them live on boats because they can't afford to live other places or they have to. You know do a bigger commute. But is it has how is is it crowded the docks base they're not in the docks or like you know anchored offshore. So what are they taking dinghy tour? I I assume some kind of a dinghy I was trying to figure that out. Actually where did they store the dinghy? This understand about boots. Yeah I was zooming that There's some kind of a service that there's enough people doing this. That's like I gotta talk to Big Hank. Big Yankee runs the Dinghy Service for for all the restaurant workers and he you know you you you talked to him. He writes down the time you got to be at work in a little notebook and yeah pam a hundred bucks a week or whatever and he comes against you. I wouldn't WanNa live on a boat. I know it sucks. Never been comfortable on a boat ever. I went on a glass bottom boat and first off the whole time. I had second my head glass bottom boats. You make the rocking world. Go Round which you're GonNa take me home tonight. The Bay glass bottom boats. You make the rock you okay. I got was that some featured in the film Bohemian rhapsody. I've never I still haven't seen Bohemian rhapsody so I don't know I yeah. I got seasick a little bit on that boat. Because you're looking at this glass bottom and you're in the sea so it's like pretty wavy right rough rough seas that's what the sailor say and If you're in rough seas staring down for a long time when you go when you put your head back up you go like this. Ooh He'll circuit a lot of people did. Did you see any sharks under the boat? No that was the thing too. I saw like some a little bit coral reef and few fisheries no Mermaids as and that's why I was looking for crabs play not even a Croat now just like a bunch of reef you know things I could just get pictures of and it would have been fine. I find that with most places I go anything I see. They're generally see a picture probably on a computer somewhere. Well let me tell you about some of the things I win because I want a lot tours and whatnot first off. Let me tell you about something. You can only see in pictures which is ghost. Sometimes Tom I saw this. I have a question. Not a ghost tour. Yeah you went. You are comfortable kind of exploring the lid off of know. What were the circumstances of this of this vacation? So is my family right. I went with my girlfriend My mom my mom's thing she was like I'm GonNa you know she's been talking about for years. This is cool as hell. I love when stuff like this half my my mom and dad had gone to key west. A bunch of times. They loved it and my mom was like I wanted. Bring everybody down to Key West. I didn't realize urged forgotten that my brother and sister-in-law had been down there twice before without you know now with like my mom. Well Tommy this. Yeah that would suck no. So is my mom my brother my brother's wife. Aka My sister-in-law their daughter Aka yes My niece who's about one and a half and my girlfriend and me so we all went down there. We stayed in a house. Three bedrooms was fine. We weren't all sleeping in one big bed together. And that's yeah that's the circumstances you said that as maybe he did all sleep in one big bed together the first night we had but the yes so that that was the circumstance as I was down there for but it was a very much like. Yeah Hey everybody do what you want it. Then let live. Let your freak flag fly like mine tour? My mom is not a very type A. person so it's not like I'm I'm paying for this house and you guys are coming down here and we're going to do what I WANNA do. It's like I'm GonNa pay for this hour. If you guys come down. There is a place to stay and we can hang out. We cannot hang out. Whatever saw your mom and Dunkin donuts the day after Christmas. Deputy months ago yes and how is that relevant to the store? Your mom you bet invite you know no man. She didn't say hi to me. She'd say conversation anyway. Yeah so that was the circumstances and one one of the many tours. I went on tour then. Now it's just me and my girlfriend. Your long suffering girlfriend is she into. She's super into ghost him not super into ghost but she's into ghosts enough she's into murderer a lot Cool how people like murder podcasts. And things like that. Murdering people murdering people figuring out the perfect way through some crime scene photos. She doesn't like it. She might look at gruesome crime. I don't know. Does she think she's going to solve the murders? I don't know I don't think it's like an aspirational anything. It's just like an interesting okay. A lot of women are into true. Crime Tim okay. Not now in it all right but yeah. Sushi was not in fact. This was kind of the thing where I was like. Yeah we'll go to her while we're down there. And she has. She was actually like prodding me like hey like let's figure out the ghost tour thing. Let's go in the store. How many ghost tours have you been on in Your Life Not Enough? I'll tell you that much maybe three. Okay yeah I thought it was one of those things where every time you're in a new city you go and you know. I wish I might start doing it that way. I'll tell you. What all kidding aside. It's a fun way. Learn the history of a place without opinion as boring as learning the history of a PLA- I went on a ghost tour in Greenwich Village. Yeah a few years back a friend got it on a groupon group on the worst thing still around yet so right. 'cause it's a shadow of itself. But were they like? Oh this is where the the coast. Bruce springsteen haunts. No it was it was. It was worse than that. They brought us to the purported friend's apartment and they're like Oh and these six people after you know May Fifteen th two thousand four. They suddenly disappeared. Nobody ever heard from them again. See Yeah that's not a ghost thing. The television show ended was. Is that real? Yeah no it's not what they told you that yeah. I think it was around Halloween. I think this was just a normal Greenwich Village. Torao that they retrofitted what? It is. The stupidest thing I've ever heard. I know I was angry about it okay. Luckily I didn't pay a lot because there's a group on it. I don't think I ever paid the person back fence. Yeah wow she hasn't listening to this. You'll never know. I saw the movie argo afterwards. I still haven't seen ARGO movie. All I know is fine. I know Argo Fuck Yourself. Oh I'd like to see for that. My wife didn't want you to Hawaii with us. Zoli reasoning discussing ARGO. F- yourself constantly. Yes so this no. This tour was not a retrofit towards him. This is a tour where the tour guide was like I can't give too much information about this tour because actually WANNA fall. The Guy and instagram and I was afraid based on how few instagram followers. He had that if he saw me follow him. Like I have a decent number that he'd be like Oh and you know trying to ride my coattails as they were. You have some concerns that are third in what way you know. I don't know. Tim Start mentioning me on the tour and stuff like. Oh you know Tom Roles. This tour wants Yes yes. Low four figures Instagram followers. Now that actually. Hey look just joking just kidding. Jk Don't say too much less this guy get too much attention because I want people to like text them and tell them but not tax. I haven't seen people listening this phone number but I want people to tell him. Go listen to this. I WANNA snitch is yeah I I stayed at a strange strange bed and breakfast talked about it on this show at length and then within two hours of US releasing that episode so many people tweeted at me. Oh is this the places state at the link to the in? It's no I hope. Don't Snitch snitching anyway Yeah I mean there's only like three or four ghosts tour companies and figure out if you really want to But this was great but the Guy. Right at ray at the top was like basically like just see guys know like I'm real experiencing this I. I'm a paranormal investigator. I've been doing paranormal investigations. For twelve years and I've written multiple books and all this tourist Taurus. Well I'll tell you what we were running the numbers in our head afterwards. We're like yeah this guy. I think makes like five hundred dollars a night doing a ninety minute walking tour. That's pretty nice. And then alongside day the week did you go in that. Yeah it was like a Monday okay or Saturday night. Let's not. Let's not go crazy. Let's not extreme. No he was a regular weeknight and and he had a pretty full tour so yeah. We're running the numbers. We're like really really no expenses like it. Seemed like there were two locations. Maybe he like paid them off to get in. But even then I don't think so. I think wishes ham and bringing you these places and the you know was I'll tell you what they were. One place. The hard rock cafe. The ghosts were in. The hard rock. Cafe wasn't always hard. Rock Cafe. Tim But like he gave us like afterwards like. Oh here's like a coupon buy one. Get One free so I can see the hard rock in like given them. A little. Bit of a kickback. To something back. I'm thinking it's just quid. Pro Quo like. Oh Yeah. We'll let you access this because that was the thing like it wasn't like oh we just went out front. We went into like a back room. The hard rock cafe so even if it weren't for that a load exactly like Tim. I'M NOT GONNA lie I I. I wouldn't pay as much but I was pretty impressed. Just that I was going behind the scenes of a hard rock cafe. Did you see any memorabilia? That wasn't ready for prime is Christ Tim. They've built waiting as hard rock cafes because the memorabilia. They had on the wall mounted on the wall a pair of drumsticks that belong to the drummer for Snoop dogg drummer. What drove wire these in a case on the wall like a symbol right and if somebody offered the snoop Dogg's drummer use them No no thanks like I don't. I don't have a need for that. I don't know who that is. This touring drummer. Okay for a guy that you don't associate with a live drummer anyway Do you think he was part of the Snoop Lion Project. The said Snoop Dogg so I but maybe it maybe there again we WANNA say Snoop Line people joke about that. Mike. You mean not joking about it anyway. The Su. He gave okay the grounds talk more about Mark Linn Baker. Yes but no not right now the so that was one place and then another place was like a place that has tours like historical tours during the day. I think it was like the oldest house in in key was so they have like tours during the day and this was just. He had a key to the fence. So we can get into the backyard which was haunted And you know there was kind of like a plug for. Oh here's the history. The haunted history of this place but then a great museum. You should visit during the day so I think it was. Just that kind of thing like a quid. Pro Quo like you're going to get a little business. This isn't really taken any skin off your nose. Let me in here for fifteen minutes When the places are closed or inaccessible anyway I mean I did go back to hard rock like the next day. So use your coupon I tried. I tried to use the coupon this guy to follow value. Did he says you bad coupons. No though the bartender explained to me like actually I gave you like the happy hour price. And that's better than whatever care also. The bartender seemed like I don't know man at me or something because I went there for a drink While my girlfriend was next door and The People next to me it was a couple of is like a white guy close our age and I think she might have been Cuban his girlfriend and he didn't speak Spanish. She didn't speak English and the bartender notices and they were on a date or do you think they were item. I think there were an item base on based on the conversation here. Okay but they did. They always need the bartender translate now. The bartender wasn't translated. The bartender is an old white lady. An old Blonde White Lady. And she was like she was getting all this information out of them And I was glad because I wasn't being pump for information so budgies like yeah. I dated and she like names. Some baseball player never heard of anything he played in the Cuban Leagues Bubba Bubba. And I couldn't see what their faces were but apparently their faces suggested that they didn't believe her so she went and got her phone and then showed a picture of from of her from like a playboy in the eighties where she was like a a Rockin. Eighties Babe in lingerie. Jesus like this used to be me. See Now you believe me that. I used the data professional baseball player. That's cool and I glanced over. Because of course playboy phone. Yeah and she gave me a dirty look like trying to show them. Not You mean okay. So anyway what was? What was the point that the couple was together but they can't understand each other. Yeah and she was just trying to make conversation saying like Oh. I dated a Cuban baseball player a and she was saying he would only speak Spanish to me and I would only speak English to him. And that's he helped. I helped him learn English and how he helped me learn Spanish. Basically the okay but anyway. Here's me from Playboy magazine in one thousand nine hundred because you guys don't believe that I dated a professional baseball player. 'cause I look like I've been through a lot to go through a lot. Yeah so the The other place though one of the many places but the The old house. That's where I got a picture of a ghost really. Yeah well see opposes instagram. Yeah Ghost so I'll show you the picture. Maybe we'll even post it in the in the comments or whatever here I don't know how podcast for eleven years wake up. It's talking about a link in the show notes. If you know how to access those are good or read it or something. I'll put them somewhere. Just look everywhere you'll find. It was mile. I'll tell you what. Why should the tour guide the picture he was like? Oh Wow yeah that's something you have. My tour isn't just a lie you to. He showed it everybody to show them the ghosts that I got a picture of now. There was a picture of your girlfriend holding a divining rods. Yeah yeah that was kind of bullshit that didn't really work defining Rod divining divining you said defining finals. It's to copper like l-shaped rods and then they've got to around them that you use as a handle and basically the rods are Kinda like free flowing and you the ghost can like make them move so you you say the ghosts like hey the show me what a yes is for you. Show me what you can do Cecil Ligi board situation kind of and in her case specifically the guy was like. Oh Yeah Look. The left one's moving this way and it was like Not really none of these are really moving but then he gave me this mad that you didn't get to hold the divining a little bit but then necks. I got to hold Like a different thing. That was like random speech generator. But it didn't do anything while I was holding it. Even though I was in my head praying for a ghost to come through music yeah or ghosts and religious. Our religion mutually exclusive or. Is there crossover there? There's a lot of crossover. But what if so the what about heaven you five years old Heaven Heaven? Then how is how? Is there still a ghost here? No because a lot of ghosts have unfinished business. So they can't go to heaven. That's not in the Bible. It is in the Bible Techniques. Forty eight forty eight of the Bible. All right checks out. Yeah it says right. There goes my pocket Bible. Yeah I mean you thought it was silly that we always have a Bible here during the show. Did I finish saying everything about the good store that I need to say? Can I finish? Had US take pictures of the backyard? Which was a cemetery found out the difference between a cemetery a graveyard? Does it have to do with ghosts. You pause from saying and then you said ghosts anyway. Yeah apparently a graveyard is for like a church and cemetery is for not church really. Yeah I would have thought it was the other way around. No that makes sense like if you think about it. It's Church church thing would have like some special name like tabernacle symbol differently. Yeah but you know what I mean. Like cemetery is as more like a ornate word than grave. You think about it. Nobody's nobody ever tells you like. Yeah they buried my mom and the graveyard. Where's the funeral? It's in the graveyard a I thought graveyard which is a spookier word for semi nighttime cemetery. Yeah but it's not apparent according to go sky I would say but he's a graveyard a cemetery. You know what I mean. Yeah maybe he's not a graveyard right but like a cemetery in courting in encapsulates everything Incorporates CHRIS. I don't like the crypt keeper. He's too scared. I don't like his hair to keep her anymore. Yes hair sick. I mean a lot of them pretty sick if you think about it. Yeah but his hair is especially sick. Yes so yes. Take a bunch of pictures. I showed my picture. He's very impressed. you showed her bales but he showed us. He shows a picture like a few pictures that genuinely sends shivers down my spine. You're such a marked He says because there were other pictures that people have taken on his tour and one patient was a guy in naval uniform up on a balcony. It was like clear as day you could see like. He had the whole navy uniform on. But there is not a man there. How do you know he said there wasn't and then there was another one where it was like a church parking lot? He shows his picture. And it's one of those things where you're looking at your I answer anything and then you're like Oh my God. Yeah there's a face there the back of a woman and then he's like look over her shoulder you can see a face and it was crazy. It was a face very clearly like a white outline of a face but very detailed. You could see what what the person looked like. She was smiling and he said You know similarly to me when I when he showed her obey the picture somebody who's like oh I got something weird ensure to everybody and when he showed it to. The woman who's back was to the camera. She started hysterical crying because her her sister had died two weeks before and it was her sister. She went on a ghost tour. Two weeks after her sister died. Yeah people need grieving their own ways. Yeah that'd be too spooky for me. Yeah but But yeah apparently was the sister did he. Then to and look at this still from the film three men and a baby. There's a little boy. He died the week before they filmed this scene. No but I do look. I don't know if I believe in ghosts but I do believe in some kind of psychic energy That if like something really tragic happens in a place like leaves something lingers somehow and that can manifest itself in interesting ways. Wow that's the way I think about the paranormal Tim. That's the way I think about paranormal. Tim Ghost him so that was one of the tours. It was fun and yeah just a nice walk just a nice night out. The guy warned us he was like some people and I was thinking about this like logistically. He was like 'cause we were mostly. Except for those two instances I brought up mostly in public areas and he said look. There's nothing I can do to stop somebody from following us. But here's what I will do. He'd be thrilled of Ghost. Followed us a person. Okay but so like if somebody follows us you know. I make them into a ghost. No I try and be nice and tell them like that was a free sample. Here's a brochure. Come out tomorrow night. Seal the same shit. Well no because the pay me. Give me a ballpark thirty dollars. Okay the way you were saying before. I think it was more like the seventy dollars. No it was. It was thirty dollars just to go behind the scenes that are No how close did you get to this drumsticks? They were up on the wall. They need people they want to. The people would wanNA touch them It was thirty dollars and the ad about twenty twenty five people on the tour. So that's where I got the five hundred dollar figure from any accepted tips at the end and I tip them. 'cause he'll let me use the ghost meter Did you did your girlfriend. Stiffen the divining rods didn't really know she. She tipped him she cheat. She dipped him to you even though the divining rods. No 'cause there was actually a discussion afterwards whereas like and we should give them a tip because like he did he did like Picasso's the group you probably had the most excitedly taking notes time on our group there was a group of. I assume they were like Eagle Scouts because they were like teenage boys and it was like this is GonNa suck all these teenage boys know what. Suck was the Shithead Dad that they had with them. Eagle Boy Scout Dad's or or the worst. This guy was. I would say that. But you know they're like a little too like into it. This guy was like using it as an excuse to act how he thinks like a teenage boy. Oh that's worse. He had to be like Shush Multiple Times by the guide. You know and it was like a guy that he looked like. Kevin mcallister's Oncle look what you did you little Jack. He looks like that guy. Like uncle. Frank like he had that that Baldness like you know with the Larry you know Larry Apple right just like a very obvious like no. There's a middle aged man. This is not a an older looking team. And so yeah. He had to be Shush Multiple Times. And then when we're in the place in the creepiest place at the mall Picture assegais talking this guy rips a huge far till I make the other kids like laugh or whatever but I'm right behind him so please fucking middle aged man rips a Fart at me and I'm like Oh like physically disgusting and walked away from him like had to go on the other side which conveniently I think was how I was picked to hold the ghosts me so maybe the ghost engineered it all but it was just weird because like Eagle Scouts. Like no at least like the people we went to high school with Eagle Scouts. They were like you know the Valedictorians. They're the straight laced so these kids were like she million by the sky like he let this Tim. I'll tell you I won't mince. Words Italia Shit. His pants. How wet this Fart was and these kids. Were just like so embarrassed about it? I hate that story you so he was. He was an adult he was. Oh Yeah No. He was probably like Jack Situation imagined charged. He was in charge in the movie. Jack maybe that's the only way they would sell them. The tickets being chart idiot a man a full grown man by the taking no because there was another chaperone another guy and he was like a regular dad minding his own business not fucking may cracking jokes and farting all the time. May I might have been a Jack Situation. Imagine Not Robin Williams Jack But I somebody. Let's play imagine somebody less charming. Yeah you Steve Bruce Shimmy the lead role in Jack Right. Yeah that'd be a lot less charming of a movie now this weird kid at school. He's not much fun. Feel like once a month have explained to you. That Jack isn't Real Disease Benjamin PUTTEN'S Z's isn't a real sees. You don't understand anything just talking about the movie. You're talking about the movie but the movie doesn't translate to Real Life. This guy wasn't in a Jack situation was a grown man. Who's the father of one of the children on this? Robin Williams farted in the movie Jack and he was a kid. I do remember that. Man's body Do you know about this Robert. The doll did you do anything normal. When you went to West. Yeah look we're going to key west part to talk about some of the more normal tune in for part to normal. Well no actually. The it was annoying to me. I was actually text you during the During the tour because he kept referring to key west key weird like like Holly Weird. Yeah no Robert. The Doll said this boy had no sense terrifying a big doll like these. This style was like full size and apparently flick the size of a full sized man mill the size of a boy. Okay uh-huh guy that'd be that would be all you need is like this man had a doll or this boy had a doll the size of a man. Yeah that'd be scary now. We're moving on to the next location But apparently like kids You know he's like a rich boy like a little Lord fauntleroy type and I guess the the people that like his parents had Like servants at the house when was eighteen hundreds? Thank you for a long time ago and you know the the people that live there. He kept referring. I think it was Santamaria. The song But he kept saying it like Santhal area. Yeah because that's actually pronounced. But apparently they liked the song they practice santeria. Yeah and did they have a crystal ball or no crystal ball but apparently like you know the people living there the rich people. They like freaked out when they saw this. They're like oh it's witchcraft. Or whatever and like fire them all I guess but they really liked the boy. He was a nice boy and they given them this doll and supposedly. They put like a spell on the doll to protect the boy. Look after the boy but then from then on the boy he would carry the doll with him everywhere and he was always talking to it and then we are. Things would happen. Bad things would happen and they'd be like hey. You knocked that vase off the table over and say I do it. Robert did it. Oh here's the weird thing What was the kid's name? His name was very well. The kid's name was like Robert Jean something but then he named the Doll Robert. His name and he started going by his middle name. No right now that my giving my name to the that's the weirdest part of this story. So absolutely and he would walk around town talking to the doll. And then you know people would see ya. People were just kind of freaked out by this. He like went away. He became a man and he moved away. He found up at a normal rate. Yes became a man for six months. found a eagles scam. Oh God that makes everything much for Tara. Maybe that man was Robert the doll so he found a wife. They moved back to key west and he was going through his old stuff. He's like. Oh my God Roberts here. I forgot about Robert. So then is your name. Is Robert. Well that was gave his wife Shovel because then apparently he would walk around town with the dull talking to the doll again but now as a full grown man his wife left him. Because you're not but anyway now. The doll is on display in a museum and the Doll Looks Insane. It looks so scary because it's pretty big. It had a wooden head that termites have eaten away at tanks. And it's in a case you can get a picture with it but you have to ask permission from the Dow from the doll. You have to ask permission to take a picture with it. Apparently some people see the doll nod. Come other people. Just feel that it's an okay. That's Fine Yeah. You take a picture you say. Dang you now. I didn't go that museum too. Afraid a little Well I was afraid of what? Oh do I'm afraid of getting cursed because they say a lot of people in this guy was like it happens constantly. People like to do that and they take a picture without asking and then the doll gets mad and does bad things to them like. What like they go home and they find out. They've lost their job right or like their marriage falls apart or sometimes it's like they fall breaking arm. It seems like this is too big a risk to take just to take like. Why would you risk? Yeah maybe yeah. Don't take a picture at all or ask nicely Robert Senses. You're you're you're you're not serious you're asking in a joking manner doesn't like being made fun of. Apparently you can't do that either. I'm behind Robert. The doll they have like. I'm afraid he's going to the beaches right behind him. There's like I duNNo. Dozens hundreds of letters of apology that people have sent cheaper. See The museum after not asking permission taking a picture with them and then bad things happening to them and then they write a letter apologizing so that the curses lifted. Well I'm terrified. I'm literally do not making jokes that I wanNA make right because I'm afraid that Robert will find out about them. He Will Timmy's he's everywhere all the time. Yeah and do you finally been censored by Robert? The doll key weird key weird wild stuff weird. Oh there's wild well tune in next week for normal tales key normal if you like the show find out more by going to TC GTE DOT COM Egan guide. Their people like planning vacations. That just listen to this on itunes and if you like Lever Review if you didn't go differ website you can follow us on facebook. Facebook DOT COM slash complete guide? Follow us on twitter at complete guy. Follow me on twitter and Instagram at Tom. Reynolds your pal. Tim Sport the show good Amazon the TC G. T. dot com slash Amazon for all your Amazon shopping in patriots dot com slash. Complete GUIDE FOR BOOKS THE PODCASTS. At bunch other back episodes of other page on podcast. We've done books the podcast right now. Where we're getting to the near the finish line of Papa the story of Papa. John's By John H schnatter. I'm reading it telling him about it. We're learn all about the man behind the Pizza Papa. John True Jerk Pager on dot com complete guide to get that bonus. Show Tom. Are you dealing with the plugs? The end so much so many more notes to talk about that. Yeah a part two is maybe not so much time going on and on about Mark Linn Baker. I have all these notes. We got through the first one. Oh really yeah you have about note. Is Ghost Tour Robert? The doll ghosts meter divining rods. That's four notes. That's there to see all right so much more all right Tom. I have people down there. Save it live Hemingway House. Okay are you going to remember these anecdotes down? No no he pulled down there. What was my. I've got a lot to say about the people down there. Can we start a tour here in New York? We should look into it right. -obably I mean. I think you need some kind of a licensed but I can't imagine it's that hard and so I can't imagine you really need it. What if it's pretty underground? Yeah that makes it cooler. Remember the guy that was making the lobster rolls out of his apartment. Yeah yeah remember. We went there. We ate lobster rolls guy made in his apartment. You really good say that was okay. Yeah well it. He got shut down. I think you got big trouble but rich presumably. I don't think he got that rich. Either Miss Remembering your deep. Pass them through a mail slot. I think he did yeah. It was a weird thing. Boy that was Back when Green Point Brooklyn was weird point. What would our torbey she just do. Go store we should do a door of green boy whereas point out things that used to be there. Now he's drug over here bar there anymore. Condos Yeah it just got rich get richer. Isn't that right folks as a grumpy? Old Mentor? Yeah. I think she only pay good money for that. We show them all the locations where they grumpy old men nice. We'll see you next week. That was a Hickam podcast.

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