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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

04:46 min | 4 d ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"Auto sport magazine, I'm Martin Lee, and this is the auto sport podcast. Today we're talking the Aston Martin autosport BR D.C., young driver of the year award, something which started back in 1989 to find and assist the best junior British racing drivers. And since 2019, Aston Martin have been on board and it's a heck of a prize 200,000 pounds in a Formula One, test drive. So, what it all about, who have been the previous winners? Is it so useful that it can change a career? Let's answer all of those questions with today's podcast and welcome back to the show our chief editor, Kevin Turner. Welcome back. Hi, Martin. How's it going? Very good. Let's get up to speed then on the award former winners include world champions like Jenson Button, a 13 time Grand Prix winner David Coulthard, Dario Franchitti, Anthony Davidson, George Russell, Lando Norris. This is good company that the winners join. And it's not bad list, is it? So yeah, we've had 32 winners. 7 of them have started the world championship Grand Prix. Three of them have won a Grand Prix as you say so D.C. obviously the first one, Jensen, and then of course most recently George Russell, with his win in Brazil and he liked it at Lando will join that list at some point soon. But even the ones that haven't made it to F one almost all of them have become professional racing obviously as you say, Frank kitty is a bit of an IndyCar legend and Davidson won the won the world endurance championship. Missed out on LeMond, but we've got quite a few LeMond class wins in the former winners list as well. So yeah, it's Chris is a pretty, pretty cool list. Any pressure to keep that going on the judges? Yeah, I think there's always a little bit, but you've also got to realize that you're not going to find a Grand Prix driver every year. That would be ridiculous. On the other hand, I think we're very fortunate in Britain. We've got such a good motor sport foundation. We've got more club championships than anywhere else in the world, I think. We've got lots of teams, F one, a lot of F one teams are based here. So there's always somebody who's proper in who wins it basically. So even if they're not going to get to F one, they'll make a professional career, whether it be in sports cars or maybe touring cars or something else like that. So the list of the list of formalities is impressive. I guess there is a bit of a bit of pressure, but you can only, you can only do the best job with the drivers you have. And then we're pretty intensive the data and the testing that we go through. It's moved on a lot actually the awards since I joined in 2008 and there's a lot of data if you need it. So it probably makes it easier for us to make the right decision. It's much harder for the drivers out on track. Well, let's talk about our most recent winner then. Who was that? And when was the last time you saw him? Zako Sullivan, won it last year, and our last saw him when he was having his F one prize drive at Silverstone in the Aston Martin AMR 21, which I pointed out the other day means he's probably driven the fastest F one car we've ever seen at the test because previously it's been the previous generation of cars. And because this is last year's car, it's actually quicker than the current. The current generation of F one car. So it's about as quick as it gets really. So what's that like then? How does that day go when they finally get the chance? Because he had to wait a long time since being crowned the winner to finally get inside the car. Well, it used to be, it used to be longer because obviously sometimes if these drives have only driven quite a lower category car, like some of the old days, it would come out a formula Ford or to go from formula four no slicks or wings and stick them in an F one car within a year. It's a bit of a shout. So in the old days, it used to be two, three, four years before they got there, F one test, but now we try and do it. Yeah, they're basically a year on. So at the following year's tests. And it's nice to get the file list for that year to get there as well and go, look, this is what you could be doing next year. It's really cool. They quite often know each other because they've been coming through the junior ranks together. So it's nice to get family and friends and whatever together. So yeah, but I mean, for Zach, he's driven in 2022, he was in FIA formula three. So even from that to an F one car, he is a big old jump. You know, he said that the biggest thing was breaking. He was breaking 15, 20 meters later than the F three car but arriving 80 to 90 miles an hour faster. So he said Silverstone Sunday seemed a much smaller circuit than it had done in anything else. And that's how quick F one cars are. So what preparation does Zach get under the winners get? Do they get time in a simulator? Do they get to woody have spent time with Aston Martin before just rocking up at Silverstone that morning? Well, it varies a little bit from year on year depending on what's available when timing and other commitments, but and of course he's a Williams academy driver as well. So you have to be a little bit careful with that. But yeah, he had some time in the simulator. And obviously, I mean, just working the steering wheel of a modern F one car is like requires a more PhD anyway. So he was given all that information. But he's a very sharp guy. When one

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

04:57 min | 2 weeks ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"Today. For any fans of more historical stuff in Formula One, check out our Formula One archive in the auto sport podcast channel. I think there was a couple of months back we did a really interesting podcast about leisure with our chief editor Kevin Turner. So we talked Patrick Depp a Jacques lafitte and all things French and team France and no don't tell me that the car is made in instant. Let's just carry on calling it team France. Let's talk about McLaren then and another driver who got to get in there, new car today. Yeah, Oscar piastre probably one of the most anticipated new drivers out there today. He obviously that contract saga over the summer that dominated the headlines and was such an intriguing case. He finally got to drive that McLaren for the very first time in full McLaren gear and everything. And yeah, he had a good day. He was very happy with how it went. There was a red flag caused by piastre at one point when he had to stop. There was a power unit protection trigger that went on his power unit. McLaren runs conservative settings for the test, so they basically want to make sure it doesn't go boom and that they can get everything and through the running all okay. So yeah, they just that went off basically. He stopped the car. Got the car back. He was able to get back out again, but yeah, good for piastre to get to know his new team at last and he said he's going to the MTC next week for his official introduction and everything like that. And from then on they can really start to I think hit the ground running in terms of getting him ready for his F one debut next year. And Lando Norris he got the full day over the garage and yeah, again, helpful understanding for next year's tyres by getting a full racing driver in there as well. Interesting. We didn't really touch on it on Sunday nights, podcasts. There was a lot to get through and we didn't get to talk about a few things I had in the running order, but one of them I was going to ask you about in case anybody looks at the charts on screen and goes, hang on a minute, Alfa Romeo, Aston Martin, 55 points a piece. Why do we say that alpha B Aston? In the constructors, they get the cache, they get the grid position, how does that work when they got the same points? That is done on countbacks that basically means who has the most number of highest positions. So basically, say, say your title points, but you have ten wins and someone else says 9. The person with ten wins finishes ahead. So in this case, alpha Romeo, they had a 5th place finish courtesy of Valtteri Bottas imola and Aston Martin did not finish higher than 6th full season. It's basically because of that P 5, that's why alpha gets sick in the championship instead of 7th. That's all it's based on basically. So yeah, if I finish 5th in one race and score ten points and you finish 9th in 5 races and score ten points, I would finish ahead because I've got the high finishing position in a single race. Okay, that's how it works. And so there you go, there's Valtteri Bottas earning his money. With a constructor's cash coming his way. But did he earn his money today? How are Alfa Romeo? He did a 129 laps of very busy day for Valtteri Bottas and yeah, he's certainly earned his cash today and over the garage was Theo pocher. He's a very exciting talent in formula two. He ended up at the bottom of the time sheets, but I wouldn't read too much into that. A 106 laps and teo he's been, yeah, fantastic, I think, in F two this year finished as runner up. And he's a really exciting star for the future. I think he's someone that alpha really won a cling onto because he's, yeah, real, real class. So yeah, good to see him get some more F one running as well today. I think it is about $10 million difference. I don't know whether you know that the exact number or not. Around ten to 12 is kind of the accepted figure position in the product, I think. So I'll remind myself of which teams get the sort of participation bonus if you like the negotiations, the Ferraris and Mercedes McLaren of the world and the Red Bulls, obviously, and that I was looking down the table thinking, okay, so there's sort of that step down. So it certainly is worth a huge level on points, but a huge amount of money to beat Aston, Martin, who had one car running awfully liveried up, hadn't touched it since the race on Sunday. And then they've been busy boys and girls in the garage peeling off all the little decals. They had to run it unbranded. Tell us about that. Yeah, Fernando Alonso making his long awaited Aston Martin F one debut and that was I think one of the intriguing ones we wondered would he be allowed to go and do it and he was. But only if the car was completely free of sponsors it had an Aston Martin logo and FIA logo and a Pirelli logo and that was it. Otherwise it looked very, very odd, but kind of satisfying in a way just saying it's sort of all in British racing green pretty much and yeah alongside he said I'll be wearing a black race suit and that's exactly what he was. He had a camo dazzle livery on his helmet as well. And yeah, he had a great day. He was on cloud 9 when we spoke to him afterwards and he said that when I signed I was 90% happy because the team was, I thought it would be

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

05:00 min | Last month

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"If you just dropped auger back into that team again, would he suddenly be fighting for the chance? It's difficult to say, of course they don't have the financial clout, as you say, as the manufacturer teams. I think they're always kind of hoping for a bit more support from Ford, who did help them in the development of that car. Then the Hyundai Andrea odama leave the team an unfortunate time for them. And they didn't get onto the rally one rules as early as Toyota and M sport. So they were on the back foot and they've had lots of Nicki problems. But the car has been quit when it's been working. But yeah, the Toyota, that's just been there all year. It's one of the most races is one both championships. And it might look a little bit odd too to our Otis in the list, but when we were looking at other cars, we could look at our 5, you think, not sure about that. But then you actually look at it and you are Hilux car. That old truck, is it a car truck, not sure, looking at the picture, could go either way. It won Dakar. It won the rally road title, and it did so against some pretty serious opposition. We've had many in that environment for a long time. The pro drive program and of course the new Audi electric attack. Some quite stern opposition and they've come out on top in both the big one and the championship. So I thought that was fair enough to be in there. Well, don't cast your votes just yet. We've got four more categories to discuss and then we need you to get online and have your say and pick a winner back in a second. Welcome back to the auto sport podcast with our chief editor Kevin Turner, talking about the auto sport awards voting, got 17 days left to cast your vote next category British, competition driver of the year. And again, this is going to be really interesting because you've got drivers with big, big fan bases, and so there's some loyalty there, but also drivers doing different things in different levels of machinery. Take us through the four in this category. Oh, I'm going to start with Tom blanc this because with all the will in the world, he's not going to win this vote, is he? He's up against three F one drivers, but he absolutely deserves a shout out because he was absolutely sensational for my shank racing. He won the Dayton 24 hours he won petit Le Mans, which also clinched him the title with fellow Brit Oliver Jarvis. He's also been a winner in the TCR, which is the all electric tint top series. We're very fortunate. We've got a lot of very good professional British race drivers all around the world winning races and fighting for Tatars in all sorts of machinery. And for blanc vis to be the top non F one candidate if you like, I think is really quite something. So well done for Tom for getting in the list. Absolutely. And then we get on to the three British F one drivers who all for their own reasons. I could see winning. You know, we're coming off the back of a recent racing in Austin where that was the Lando show and you think, okay, Lewis Hamilton biggest Formula One star in the world. And yet everyone's screaming Lando's name. He's just so popular. He's cut through because of drive to survive and then the George Russell has built this fan base from being in the car that was at the back and he was outperforming. And now he got that shot at the big time and through his own Formula One drivers can be a little bit robotic because of the nature of the business and money and things these days and social media. But his personality has cut through in a way that people just have fallen in love with George. You know, coming on the radio going, oh crikey and being awfully British about it. So there's three drivers there who generally I think stand a shot. This is an interesting test of how much it's a popularity contest and how much of it is a straight performance thing. Obviously there was quite a lot of nonsense in the first half of the year when Lewis Hamilton was doing lots of random setups to try and get the W 13 working and George was able to pump in some good results and don't get me wrong. I think George Russell has done a really strong job in a front running car for the first time against one of the all time great, but I think in recent times a recent race is Hamilton has really shown that he's the other guy on the grid that's still on the Verstappen level. I thought they were both absolutely superb in Mexico. So I think Hamilton is still hungry. He's going to be we've got an interview with him going all sport magazine. The 10th November issue where he's really still up for it. It's quite amazing. 37 year old still fighting away, but then obviously Lando and George R the two British talents that are most likely to step up Lando's obviously once again completely thrashed Daniel chiado or writers of really good F one drive as you say he's very popular as well. So yeah, we'll be interested to see how it plays out across those three all but eagerly checking the voting over the next couple of weeks. Rookie of the year is our next category. This is open to professional racing drivers in their first season in their respective categories. So them's the rules. Actually, explain the four drivers here and some of you are thinking behind it.

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

07:46 min | 3 months ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"Will get on to who the team is named after joined today on the podcast by Marcus Simmons who put this list together, so just tell us quickly why you were happy to do a elysia list for us. First of all, I'm afraid I've forgotten to bring the obligatory packet of Japan with me. But anyway, I always, I always had a fascination with leisure as a kid and young adult following Grand Prix racing in the late 70s early 80s and they did seem to have the gallic flair that you've mentioned at the beginning. They had some cool drivers. I had some very quick cars. I always had a fascination with the French drivers who came up through the ranks and we used to see regularly in formula two in this country as well in the 1970s, drivers like Didier peroni renew, Patrick depay, who we may go on to talk about, have they been talking. It just seemed a fantastic system that they had in place in France and a lot of them, but all some of them went on to drive for these and have and have success. And obviously, most of the success, or that was sorry, their most successful seasons were really 79 and 80, as far as competitiveness was concerned, but those years over using the Cosworth V8 engine, but who can argue with a team that otherwise use the matcha V12 for their for their early years in just the most glorious sounding engine and I can still hearing I can still hear it echoing around the amphitheater at brands hatch in my mind now just fantastic. It's still screaming around in your head. And joined by our chief editor Kevin Turner, who has turned gamekeeper to poacher from list writer to critique, although, I don't know how this list will go because one we did with minardi. You were pretty much an agreement with a lot of that list, so let's see how you go with lige Kev. Yeah, I mean, when we were looking at doing the second, the first series, the teams picked themselves, didn't they? They were all the big the big 6, the recent 5 plus lotus. And then we thought, well, I wanted to do a second series because there are a few big teams that no longer exist. And then they're also a few teams that were around a long time that perhaps didn't achieve the top results. So I thought it would be make it quite a fun thing to do for the second series to look at those teams. But it's an awful lot harder. When you're looking at drivers and teams that spent a lot of the time in the midfield or occasionally in these case, they were all over the place. Sometimes they were very competitive and almost in championship contention in other days they were sort of midfield towards the back. So comparing drives across those different ears is very difficult. Which is why I decided to cop out and ask a few of my colleagues to help with the second series. And the moment I thought would you do a lige one in Mark Marcus, it was an obvious obvious conversation and he didn't take very long to well, I didn't say it very long to say yes. Let's put it that way. We might struggle to have too much disagreement on this, but let's see how we go. We'll start with number ten place, which can sometimes be a little bit contentious because it's who you leave out and is in 11th place, but in tenth place or experience driver. Now remember we're not talking about the drivers and how this driver might have raced at Renault or elsewhere, but for Lee Jie. Renee amu, spent 86 to 89 with leisure and started 53 times and he just scrapes into your list. Why is that? Kevin said I was quite enthusiastic about doing this list. Once I'd got to 5 or 6, I suddenly thought blimey, who else is going to fill the top ten? Because there really is a massive drop off. Such was the story of LEGO. Rene arnoux, if he'd left ligia after one season in 1986, he'd be higher up this list. Had he not joined them until 1987, they wouldn't be in the list at all. As predominantly, because of the 86 seasons. So he'd come back, that was the year he came back to Formula One after being sacked by Ferrari just one race into the 85 season. It was alongside Jacques lafitte, who was the favorite son of Li Jie and had already been back there for one year. They had the Renault V 6 turbo engine. The car was quite decent. Over the first half of that season, there were some competitive showings. And our new was actually comprehensively quicker than the fate. Although lafitte raced very well, there was a memorable race where they ran one two in the Detroit Grand Prix with lafitte in front of Arnold. But then came lafitte's British Grand Prix accident where he broke his legs and he was replaced by Felipe Palio for the rest of the season. And yeah, our new against lafitte was he was competitive and we have to regard lafitte as a very, very good F one driver. So that's the reason he makes the top ten after that it all went off the rails a bit here. I did a deal with Alfa Romeo for engines for 87 and then our new decided to slag them off to the Italian press and Alfa Romeo said, right, we're not supplying you engines anymore. And his career over the last three years is more noticeable for being criticized by James Hunt on the commentaries. But yeah, he just he just about snakes in and I did make the comment in this top ten that perhaps Olivier grill was unlucky not to make the top ten. Who was Arne's teammate in his last in his last season at these. But agree I'll start it very brightly but then in 89 and was really blowing blowing off our knee has a formula 3000 graduate, but then he started crashing quite a bit. And that's sort of hampered his case to be in this top ten, really. And then went off to our cellar for the following season. So our new just about makes it in great character. Well, probably probably not a great character if you were another Formula One driver in the 1980s, but one of the quickest legs of the 80s on his day in the right car, which probably wasn't the case at legio. So kevy scrapes in. Yeah, I think that. I was chucked into myself there. I agree with what I must admit, if I think our new Indonesia, I immediately think of whichever James Hunt put down was going on. The one that stands in my mind is the Monaco one where Murray walker for a very coolly disavow and Arne is talking about he's struggling to adapt from turbos to normally aspirated engines and James James hunt's responses is suitably short and concise. And I suspect probably quite accurate as well given that the top drivers did go from the tear base normal aspirated with no trouble at all. I struggled a little bit just because I think of him just getting in the way of the frontrunners was the only time he ever seemed to see him in the league. But yeah, 86 probably just 1986 probably just does scraping in. I've got another name I wanted to put to Marcus and see how close he came to getting as well because one of the names that came to my mind when thinking these shows, Eric komas, how close did he, because he perhaps didn't compare as well against his teammate as I had thought when I actually went and went and looked it up. But how close did it come as get to coming into the list? Yeah, he was on that borderline. If they'd been a top 13, he would certainly have been in it.

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

06:25 min | 4 months ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"England and Germany's sporting female stars showing how it can be done. And even with W series over the weekend, as well, let's hope we see some more progression into Formula One from Formula One's female future, female stars. Before the race, leclerc and saints weren't worried about George Russell being on pole because they said they had the pace to take care of Mercedes, but they hadn't factored in the fierce opposition that they would face from Czech notes. Oh, the Ferrari pit wall it says here. I'm joined by our chief editor Kevin Turner, Jess mcfadden, and at the track again this week racking up the air miles is Luke Smith. Luke, that was to me a masterful drive from Max Verstappen, who looks every bit oven ready for title number two. What do you reckon? Yeah, it is looking that way now. I must say Martin. I mean, 80 points as you say going into the summer break. He could miss the triple header and just come back in Singapore and still be leading the world championship. It's quite a daunting preposition that I think everyone has going into the second half of the season, but I think today again we saw just wire Max Verstappen is yeah, why he is probably the best driver on the grid right now, why he's performing so well. And even in a race where he made a pretty big arrow, let's face it, that's going to cost him a perfect ten on the driver rating. Sorry for any spoilers, but I know F one editor Matthew is working on that as we speak. And yeah, it was that era in the end didn't actually cost him the race win phenomenally. It was like, yeah, I really brilliant displayed by max. For his way from tenth on the grid slowly brought himself back into contention. The pace was there all along and yeah, when we got into the second stint and when he made that switch to the final set of medium tyres, that is what clenched it. His pace from there was so, so good. Ferrari definitely played into Red Bull's hands and definitely helped max win that race because yeah, they threw away what should have been a definite victory today. But yeah, I think they I think Verstappen again proved why he is the world champion elect. Why is the world champion and why ties with number two is really looking like a formality at this point because he's operating on such a high level right now even he can spin he can qualify tenth and still come back and comfortably win the race. Jess, we saw a brilliant overtake going into turn one from Verstappen for the lead, just amazing ultimate car control. How well did you rate his race? Yeah, I think I have to just echo Luke's comments. It was a champions drive. I think he said on the radio to his engineer GP said we stayed calm and we won the race and I think that is the epitome of Max Verstappen and Red Bull Racing, at least on his side of the garage. It's very controlled, very determined. We even saw it at the start, you know, he was clearly out of position starting P ten today. But he managed to keep his nose clean, literally and figuratively speaking. And just stuck it where he knew he could tire management was a one strategy was a one and he's gone from P ten to winning the race, which is just kind of incredible when you consider how competitive Ferrari Mercedes was looking at least at the start of the weekend, but that quickly petered out. I know Lewis Hamilton has come out and said, if he hadn't had that DRS problem and finished as far back as he had, he had the pace to win the race today. Which you would, he was the fastest guy out on track as we drew the race to a close. I think there is definitely an argument to be had, but I know we don't really like to deal in what ifs because anything could have happened had it played out differently, but yeah, Max Verstappen, he I mean, I've been saying it for a little while now. I wanted it to not be the case, but I don't think max has a competitor this year. In terms of anybody that's going to be looking to challenge him, it would take an absolute implosion at Red Bull. For him to not walk away as the defending champion and champion again this year. And Kev, you've been critical of max before, which didn't win you too many Dutch fans, but you were just, you were just saying it as you saw it. On our season review podcast at the end of the year, you didn't dispute max's talent. You had some issues with the way he went racing. Do you think now that he's got that championship under his belt, you've seen him perhaps become more of a full package? What did you rate his race today? Yes, I think he is a more complete package. I mean, my main issue with him in 2021 was the will to will. Battling with his hands and we talked about that a lot and I think he's shown on numerous occasions this year that he is capable of fighting cleanly and winning and losing he can measure depending on the circumstances. Apart from perhaps I think you took liberties with Schumacher at Silverstone for a championship contender, which we talked about at the time, otherwise now I think he has been very he's becoming a complete package, but I will just take an issue a little bit with Luke and just like he's still throw it off today and had a spin and in another situation that costs you the win. Now he's had two mistakes in races this year in Spain and Hungary that would normally cost you points in its costume absolutely zero and the reason it's costume zero is because of other things going on, namely Mercedes still isn't quite quick enough and Ferrari are a shambles on the pit bull. But that's not maxis Phil. He's delivering. I thought it was a very cool calculated drive other than that moment. He always looked in control out there. Another commentary was getting quite excited about Lewis charging up, but I don't think there was any ever doubt that max was going to win it. I think Lewis second was probably all he was going to get. So now he's going to be in the world championship, no question. Do you think that on a different day on a different corner if he'd have spun perhaps into the gravel or hit a wall, taking himself out, people would have been much more critical of his car controller. I believe he was suffering at the time with either a slipping clutch or he had some technical problems, I think, that were causing him to change some settings on the wheel. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true, I think. Well, I thought it was a great recovery. He lost very minimal time. I mean, his car can travel. He's fantastic. I mean, remember the very sideways moment in Brazil in 2016, which I don't think many drivers would have got out of that one at interlagos.

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

03:29 min | 4 months ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"So for them to be on the money, I think it was two really good performances, been denied a little bit. So there you go. There's talking up Latifi, there's a credit. That's given me a time in the limelight fair play. Absolutely very well put I think good to recognize that good performances when they come, I must say, since the end of qualifying, I've been thinking back to this race in 2013 when Lewis Hamilton took pole for Mercedes and they've been quite good in quality all season. And he said, it's going to take a miracle for me to win tomorrow. And what he did went out and won the race. I just part me wonders, are we going to have a similar kind of thing tomorrow with George Russell maybe? Could he perhaps muster up that first step on when for Mercedes? What kind of ICU anticipating at the front tomorrow it could, Russell delivered a similar kind of miracle from Mercedes. He could, and we know it taking a cheap shot. It's because he's got a second and third place. So the Ferraris and which strategy with reliability with as far as we know, going into going in Sunday, no decisive call on team orders. There's plenty of stuff to undo it there, and but I have to say, on the day, a Russell win would be amazing, context of the season, but in the context of the bigger championship battle, we need for our really to capitalise on Red Bull dropping the ball, which they haven't done much. Their unreliability at the start of the season was a central part to do with the fuel system. And since then they've been not flawless, there have been areas where pit stops and losing tents here, but so much better than Ferrari that they need to pass and show that they are an organization capable of taking his fight to the wire. Again, I can't talk too definitively about Mercedes race pace for my calculations yesterday because as they say, taking the car apart and rebuilt it overnight. What I can tell you is from Friday there would have to find 1.2 seconds lap. And that was just and the average and I think that gap has come down. What I can tell you perhaps, again, going back to the team orders. So now at the end of the podcast, we're throwing back to where the signs, although leclerc was faster in the headline times and the quality simulations and epi two, it was signed who was quicker over his average stint. So again, he can either pull away and put pressure on Russell. Oh, but does the championship fight no good? Or he might fall behind leclerc early on, bad start, whatever, but have the underlying race pace to get bus. So again, look at this. There needs to be there's the impetus for them to be decisive. So we've seen at points this season where we never thought it were Verstappen's come up to lap Hamilton or whatever or sale by him because of the deficit in the W 13, but he's now got a recover a couple of places and get past that water and so that could be a battle, you know, say there are some interesting tidbits and I should also add, sorry, one last thing. We haven't talked about McLaren, but they were only two tenths or Norris was only two tenths average lap off signs and the ballpark of o'clock yesterday on the same time. So Norris, what's starting forth, maybe he can cause a headache and get between the red cars. While it'll be a very interesting race indeed, lots of good subplots to look at. Matt, thank you very much as always for joining me. We're now off to go and get some dinner in our hotel. And yeah, make sure you join us tomorrow night for the full race review podcast. Believe it's Martin myself, Jess, and Kevin Turner, our chief editor is making a rare, very welcome appearance. And of course, make sure you stay tuned to all support throughout tomorrow. We've got all of the news reports and analysis from race day for the Hungarian Grand Prix, George Russell on pole position, max Stafford Lewis house and fighting their way back through should be a really good race. We'll see you tomorrow.

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

05:31 min | 9 months ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"They were cleverly using DRS and kind of playing mind games at 200 miles an hour, which I just still find extremely impressive. The fact that they can do that. And I know that might sound like a really obvious thing to say, but they're not just knuckleheads with fast cars. They're having to think really strategically. And even as Alex said, there was no way that leclerc was going to, well, he keep maybe he could have gone into the pits and maybe had a go at the fact that maybe they'd have been closer out on track, but I think you're totally right. You're usually a disadvantaged by doing that. So I think that dummy, which he did say after the race in the press pen that it was a dummy that they were trying to get Red Bull to blink. You know, that's clever. And then the use of the DRS and understanding how powerful or it was, to be able to we saw hints of it last time out in Bahrain. We saw the hints of like, if you can hold back and get the DRS, then you have the advantage in the next phase of the circuit. So I'm really enjoying that because I think it's, again, it's not to say that people on the clever before. We've seen it with the likes of I forget what year it was, but Vettel at spa. Knowing that he could get the jump on Hamilton, if he maneuvered the car in a certain way, like we used to seeing this kind of stuff, but I feel like it's really becoming almost like a characteristic of Charles driving style. And I think what really impressed me again today was that I thought that max actually was being outwitted. And I think the thing that I felt may be was that we know how he can get quite hot headed. I thought he was going to make a mistake because he was getting so frustrated at the fact that he was making the move and then getting out done again. But actually what we saw was that max started then playing at Charles game. And I think that was, for me, not to say that he is an immature driver. I think he's a very how to put this politically correct without people coming from me on Twitter. He's an aggressive driver. We know that. And I think what you're saying. What our boss care, so our boss Kevin Turner, chief editor. It comes under a lot of stick. A lot of stick from people who, because he says, Max Verstappen is not the complete package. He is almost there. He just needs patience and a bit more, you know, less ferocity in wheel to wheel action. And so by the sounds of it, what you're saying is, you know what? This season? But maybe max is now he's got the world championship under his belt. He's had some time off over wins. He's kind of come back. No one's ever saying he didn't have guile, but he's just, that's just another bit of his talent that he's been able to layer on top. It's really impressive. A 100%. And I think what I really enjoy is that these drivers have to adapt. In terms of who they're battling against, like who the battles with. And I think that's, again, that was what I think what I felt when I was watching was that that's what we were seeing with max. It's like, he knows he knows where he can apply pressure and where he needs to change his game. And I think we're seeing that more and more as he goes through his through his career. He decided, I'm not, I can't, I'm not going to win the aggression game with Charles because Charles doesn't seem to seem to blink when it comes to max. I don't think, I think he kind of knows, right? Well, if you send it, then we're both out, so you're going to hurt because at this point in time, you're trailing. You don't have any points. So it's kind of up to you, really, if you want us both to crash. But then max decided no, okay, I'll play the clever game then. And I think we've seen that he knew how to play Lewis. He knows how to play Charles. So I think that's going to be something that, as we move through the season, is this still going to be a narrative that's going to make its way through the season. But I guess I did see on Twitter people kind of not actually liking the DRS chess as I was referring to it as it's a bit is it a bit kind of manufactured. And you know that people have a problem with DRS in the first place. But for me, it just showed there's a tool that the drivers can use and they were using it cleverly. So I don't know, like I didn't particularly mind it, but I'd be interested to know what you guys thought. Well, the thing is about the DRS tactical tool versus fast thing, is that it is only becomes a fast if it's the same every race. So if at every race there's a really strong DRS and it becomes a game of who can drive slowest before some paint on a track, then it's going to become a fast and it's going to become dangerous and although we're last year we saw Lewis running into the back of max. Went out without incident today and I thought it was interesting because they were locking locking up and not looking like the complete professional racing driver that always got it totally under control. Although to be honest, the cars do look a handful this year. Sorry, I interrupted you carry on. All I was going to say is that I don't think you have that battle without DRS. I think that there's two things. One, it's not like it was 50 laps of DRS passing. It was a certain specific point in the race where it happened. But without it, I don't think Verstappen wins that race. I think he maybe he gets closer to make one move. And I get frustrated when people are like, you know, in an ideal world, yeah, you wouldn't have the RS. But people do look back 20 years ago and yearn for that era that's always on the cusp of like, oh, it's better back then. It was better back then. Which area are you talking about? You're talking about gym Clark, you're talking about.

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

07:07 min | 11 months ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"50% discount on membership at the end, so stay tuned all the way. Later on, we'll talk about Juan Manuel Fangio. As Nigel roebuck writes about what made him such a gentleman champion. But first, our chief editor Kevin Turner has picked out this article our subscribers first read last week, writing the best drivers of the century so far. Also sports top 50 feature has been a staple of the magazine for the past two decades since its first appearance in 2002. Here are the drivers that have featured most prevalently during that time. Written by chief editor, Kevin Turner. Also sports top 50 drivers of the year rankings always cause controversy and debate, both within our office and the wider motor sport world. It's our attempt to assess and highlight the best performances each season. But that doesn't stop some fans and even drivers getting very cross about the final list. The 2021 top 50, which was topped by Formula One World Championship runner up Lewis Hamilton, was the 20th edition. Since the inaugural list in 2002, 292 drivers have appeared in the top 50. Some consistently. Some just the once, while others have fallen in and out as their careers have ebbed and flowed. Auto sport launched the top 50 in the 19th of December 2002 issue of the magazine. When it covered only 6 pages, as opposed to the 26 pages in 2021. And much of the original premise remains. We've tried to spread the drivers around the different categories of motor sport as much as possible. Some have received bonus points for versatility. Others for shining in adversity. And all of them, though, a bloody good drivers, and this is our salute. To mark the milestone, we thought it was time to tie up all the scores to find out which drivers have been the outstanding performers this century, or at least since 2002. The starting point each year is to write the drivers within the major series. One of the core tasks of each journalist covering their championship. There are many factors taken into account, including the machinery at the driver's disposal. Circumstances, for example, were they in a title fight. Good and bad luck. Outstanding performances and errors, and importance within the team. In 2021 on track etiquette also had to be taken into account when it came to F one and the DTM. Once all these elements have been considered, each correspondent produces a top ten drivers of the year in their championship, which traditionally appears as part of their own season review. Drivers from the same category in the top 50 tend to appear in the same order, unless a driver appears across multiple series. For example, Alessandro Pierre goiti was second in the 2021 world endurance championship GTE pro drivers list to Kevin estre, but jumped ahead in the top 50, thanks to his efforts in GT world challenge Europe, particularly in the spa 24 hours. There's now a long time sports car correspondent Gary Watkins said special drivers do special things. And standout moments are also considered in the rankings. Writing the different series then has to be factored in. This isn't an exact science and the strength of many categories changes over time. Some seasons are stronger than others, particularly when it comes to junior single seater championships, which can oscillate significantly from one year to another. Trying to judge all the series and performers within the meteor is a challenging task and creates much debate. How do you compare, for example, a super formula champion, with the NASCAR, or world touring car, race winner? World championships, most obviously Formula One and in rallying tend to be at the top of the pyramid. With the leading categories of American motor sport, Indy car and the NASCAR Cup also weighted strongly. Formula E and WEC tend to figure in higher echelons too. Once all the championship top tens have been collated, drivers competing in multiple series considered and an initial list of up to 70 names or more being produced, it's sent to the correspondence for feedback on who needs to move up or down and in or out. A small panel then determines the final top 50 to prevent the debate going on forever. For this 20 years list, we gave 50 points for the number one driver. In each annual list. 49 for second, et cetera all the way down to one point for 50th. We then added up each driver scores over the years to come to a total. Obviously, this was just one way of writing the drivers. A more holistic view of the century would include other factors, such as the varying gaps between drivers which can't be reflected in the data. And similarly, few drivers careers fit neatly into our 20 year window. For example, Michael Schumacher would undoubtedly be higher up the list if we'd been doing this since 1992, while other drivers like the 2021 Formula One World Champion Max Verstappen have only recently got going and will doubtless climb up the rankings over the next few years. Nevertheless, as a novel way of starting the conversation and celebrating two decades of outstanding driving in the top 50 itself, we hope this is a fun way to begin the new year. The leading performers one of the key things about the top 50 is that it's not restricted by championship finishing order. All but the most casual of motor sport fans or those wanting to avoid a debate will concede that any given championship result doesn't necessarily reflect the performance levels of the drivers that year. Over the 20 editions, our top 50 has been headed by someone other than that year's champion on 6 occasions. This can help those sometimes saddled with mediocre machinery. So it's perhaps not a surprise that the top scorer is Fernando Alonso, with 810 points. In his two F one title winning years he was second to world rally championship Sebastian Loeb in 2005 and first in 2006, and he's been a consistently superb performer for most of the period. He topped the list again in 2012, when his brilliant F one campaign with Ferrari fell just shy of denying Red Bull Sebastian Vettel The Crown. Alonso's quest for motor sports Triple Crown combined with some stellar performances for the then beleaguered McLaren team also kept him in the frame when his F one results alone looked unremarkable. He was third in our 2017 listings when he made his first appearance in the Indianapolis 500.

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

04:01 min | 1 year ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"I'm going to go ahead of you. And there's a great pass that was happened putting the end of the pit straight. But then there's two things there's another extra element in that this is during Verstappen's early season run of making errors. And myself and fans will insist that he has been totally flawless this year, which is far from the case. But these errors really were adding up. That little slip in the Portuguese Grand Prix coming out there is quite a deceptively tricky downhill corner that right hand penultimate corner. Little wobble and Hamilton doesn't think twice in the staff and goes from bothering Bottas to being down in third with Hamilton then out fox's Bottas again. And then he's like, I'm in control now. I'm doing my thing. I've got the tyres where I need them and he wins. And as you say, Martin, there's the fastest lap drama, which is kind of weird, 'cause I really, really disagree with the fastest lap. Bonus point is just I just think it's one of those underwhelming rules like the not getting pole position for top and qualifying on sprint race weekends. But it did kind of fake little boring races a bit more interesting. I can kind of see the value in it. And this is one of them. I don't think it was hilarious mistake for Mercedes in the way we're going to pick pot users because they're so far ahead because Perez is again ridiculously far off the base. So far off the base that Red Bull leave him out to run long and hammers and overtakes him going blue flag, blue flag, some say he's like, nope, you are racing him, because he's just so far away, haven't it's like, well, I've got, of course, I'm assuming I'm going to be wrapping it anyway. The point is, Bottas had enough time to pick to get that fastest lap to take something away from Verstappen. Mercedes do it one lap too early and give Red Bull chance the staff and as well. And he can do it on the last lap, but again, it's another early season era. He goes too wide at that same spot, the penultimate corner. Beyond track limits, which is the size is a very, very boring and tedious topic. But in this case, it is right. He made a mistake there and he got punished for it, and he was very furious about it afterwards, but even though it was his own mistake. So yeah, you're right. It was a forgettable race. I think purely because it was just out, Hamilton has done it again in very familiar circumstances. Quick plug for our top 50 drivers podcast, which is out already. Kev makes Kevin Turner makes a very strong argument for why max wasn't the best driver this year. And that's not to say he hasn't had a great year. He thinks he's still got just a few things to kind of shave off. You rough edges and then he will be just unbeatable. Look, do you kind of agree that that was a stage when max wasn't at his best? Yeah, I think that and it was in qualifying as well. There was another track limits track limits klaxon. But yeah, he ran wide at turn four and have a lap deleted that would have been good enough for pole position. So it was, yeah, it was a real weekend where track limits was costing max quite a lot. And Red Bull, I think I seem to remember helm and Marco grumbling quite a bit about it, but you're like, well, rules rules. Like track limits, yes, they are boring, but Alex has said they are the rules, and that type works. And it's very simple, but yeah, I think it was probably the early part of the season my max was probably getting into his groove a little bit more. And I think just really realizing that I'm in this championship fight. Like we've got the car this season to take the fight team Mercedes two battle and after spending pretty much his whole rebel career in either the third sometime second fastest car and kind of thinking like, okay, on my day, I can take the fight to them absolutely. I know I've got the ability. It's just my car that's not quite there. Now it was like, okay, well I've got everything on my disposal and I can do this. And I think that, yeah, we did sort of maybe see that sort of early season. Yeah, if you sort of hiccups here and there, but it was yeah, I pulled him out, yeah, so a weekend, they don't really, again, nothing really springs out to me apart from, oh, track limits. And given it was so close to the previous year's race at Portman as well, my biggest memory reports now is like running the racetrack. And that was over a year ago now. It's very strange, but yeah, it was not a weekend that you really remembered, but as Alex, I just vintage Lewis Hamilton of I've got the race and going to control it simple. I'm surprised you'll take away memories and the traffic. I don't think I'm as scarred as you are by that. Rightly so. Obviously, obviously obviously not a problem this year because of no fans being there anyway. What a world..

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"kevin turner" Discussed on Shift+F1

Shift+F1

06:04 min | 1 year ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on Shift+F1

"Road because i'm christian. Pardon bright and christian sorry to jacked. I they comes up in the emails beside go ahead. Yes so think when he sort of says that He started again putting that marker down of if you don't give me space like we're gonna we're gonna have accidents That's always been sort of his approach. I don't think he did anything really wrong here. Like he d tried it. It was fair to try. He damn near me damn near made it. You know the championship on the line between them. I'm not here for his reaction of like. It's such a shame. We have these accidents and not settled with good racing. This is good racing. They're competing hard for corner. Sometimes it goes bad. Sometimes they pull a rabbit out of the hand they both drifts through side by side we cheer. But it's all part of like good racing. I think he just in this case it broke bad at it. Broke added a really scary way because of the real story. The sausage curbs Which is that the fact that it is physically possible for an incident like that to result in a formula one car whipping around like that at someone's head. That's a big problem. You know what i mean. But that's max's fault leg. It should have just been. Maybe a tank slapper. A wheel bang And instead it nearly turns into a catastrophic accident because the sausage curbs which used so extensively to discourage cutting corners like this I didn't know that could do this. I didn't know that like there was a possibility. If the series of events happens where bounces the rear wheels. Touch powers going through one. All bets are off like that's new information very scary information We don't think that's on maximum. Because of anything he did. I'm not even sure to penalize that It's sort of a everyone. Everyone was taken out of the race. It sucks but Have you seen quotes regarding the curbs. No recent here on autosport he says in that in that situation i think the sausage curb works quite well in that particular corner. It was a driver's choice. You can drive into a curb or to the left of it Which we saw numerous times that that happened over the course of the weekend. A number of people in similar situations chose to go to the left through those little bumps and rejoin yeah. I'm sympathetic to ask. I do think this. i don't know what they have. Laser fast quick decision making skills bus. I don't really know what max was doing like like. I hear what he say. I think he just wanted hamilton to make a bunch of space for them up the insides. But like yeah. I don't know why he would ever think that either because like as we have seen for stopping being like the whole he wants to be the center. If you know if there's a gap going to go first and you know in hamilton wants to be the center that will give you the option of going off the track or crashing. Yeah yeah but yes. I think when you look at the body of this silverstone i can kind of see. Maybe while i guess it was roles reversed airbus but also yeah like hamilton. I think a- to be diplomatic tablets. I think hamilton won't ever yields. So what how for max needed this time wasn't for hamilton. Like leave a gap for him. They were on the chicane like he does not to leave a fucking cop from everybody to leave no like like. Oh what's supposed to take avoiding. Action is basically golfer stopping his expecting so like and he knows that he's not going to do that and presumably he knows the sausage carb is there and if he that's a really nasty place to hit a curb because runoff. It's one of the few gravel traps left in this entire track. And also there's going to be a mercedes in the way in a second so it i think it you know unfertile Think for stopping a bit of a brain fart doing this one but also they met in this weird scenario where he was just carrying so much more speed so maybe he just missed judged at you know it's hard it's hard so people should read curious like what you guys make us when we talk about next week Autosport ran a piece by their editor in chief. Kevin turner about like verstappen. Basically making this kind of a miserable title fight and it's really interesting because there's a few things at play one is that there's a long standing feeling among non uk drivers in enough one. The uk dominated press that covers one. Most coverage generated around at one is english. Language and based out of the uk has always been a bit biased in. This goes back years. Where like they turn non-english drivers non-british drivers into the villains of these stories. So i try to bear that mind. Turner's piece though is full of like quotes on background. Basically where the feeling among people around f. one is that hamilton the end has tried to avoid instance in multiple cases. Unc started this. You could see when they sort of went through that i can on the first lap. Hamilton does back out and like gas base Apparently like he did it at imola as well When it comes time to sort of exercise similar judgment. Max doesn't max position of either you move or i'm going through you and it doesn't. It doesn't go well. And i think hamilton has read correctly. Did again we mythologised things. Like senna where it's like. You know if. I can get in your head. If i know you'll yield. I'll just i'll just go through. Which kinda.

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"kevin turner" Discussed on Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

04:08 min | 1 year ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

"It was It was weird, man. Like in an oblique way. I killed him. You know what I mean? You know you you you put him in a circumstance where he had to kill himself. Kind. Although it was your fault you were jigsaw and you're in the middle of the floor. No. In this dream, it was 100% skins fault that he died. Right. Okay, So let me explain it. Please. Do I look, I'm starting to think maybe you should have led with this one. Because it's such. It's such strong content to talk about how in your dreams you knocked off half of the previous show. Well, okay. Were you riding a tricycle? No, although Let me break it down. So the dream starts out at like some sort of event. And it's me and Kevin Turner. Okay and skin okay? And for some reason, like skins, Dad or Kevin's dad, somebody's dad is there ain't mine. Have you met either of their father? Okay, but some dude who's who's one of their dads and They asked me for a ride home. I'm like, All right, cool. No problem. Right. So we hop in a and, like an old model Ford Explorer. For some reason, all right? I don't know why that is just an old model like SUV typing. Maybe it was a blazer, something that had that kind of shape. But we're driving and I'm getting close to where they want me to take them. And we come up over a hill and at the top of this hill is kind of like a steep dip like a kind of a quick fall off. We'll just before we crested this hill skin had taken off his seat belt. Right. Well, that's not safe and we go over the hill. We fall like we kind of like, go over like a little mini cliff on this, You know, road and skin flies forward, Heads, head hits the windshield, and he's out. And like in the dream, like I know he's out like he ain't coming back. And like the Kevin's crying and the dad, Whoever's dad, it is, is crying too. And all of a sudden, like Uh, the car comes to arrest because we kind of jolts forward, and it's like a mini wreck, essentially. And Uh, we come to rest at like the side of a stop sign on a sidewalk and we all get out. Ambulances are there like immediately. A fire truck shows up all of a sudden there's always like bystander standing around. And then for some reason, you and close show up for some reason. I don't know why in like the KRLD news van, because when news breaks we break in. Who did I wish I was making this up, you enclose show up in the KRLD newsman for some reason. But But the the dream was just so effin freaky. So it kind of ended or it faded out, I guess. Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to do that. It was a little It was a little freaky man or a lot of freaky. But The dream ended with all of us. Just kind of standing around this SUV and skin still in there, you know, limp and lifeless. And with that seat. Yeah, The arrangement is like, Stop it. Stop it. I'm sharing something with Hey, I got closer and I have to show up in the news van we got we got some news to break. Apparently you killed skin and a salacious vehicle accident did not. It was his fault. He took off his seat belt. He took off his seat belt, and he's the one that that caused his own death in his dream. But also he died. Yeah, No, That's what I'm saying. He's dead. Like I could tell. He's dead. He ain't coming back and and, uh The setup was I was driving skins in the passenger seat to my right that whoever's dad is behind me. On the left side and then back into the right is Kevin. And all of us survive, except for skin who took off his seatbelt beforehand. I don't know what the F that means. I don't know how to interpret it. But He did it to himself. I just want to point that out. Are you sure? Yes. Are you sure that on the on the other side of the crest of that hill wasn't Christina Ray kicking at the vehicle that you couldn't see? There was no vehicle. Like I said, we just crested.

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

09:03 min | 1 year ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"All. He's changed into civvies when fame and brought the car in moscow change. Change back into the car and started. I think probably won. The greatest comeback drives in multiple history. To still the win 'cause and when one woman which was david brown's in sort of main aim all along again was played depart by goading ferraris early in the race. They blew up and left us to finish one too because the nurburgring is all that meant. They went to good chance the championship. Yeah i just like to go back to that racer nurburgring and to be fair to check. Fem and i think it was actually a pretty safe pair of hands. Not the quickest. But i think he'd been put off by slower driver and the fact that he had the strength and perseverance to drag that car out of the ditch. I think is pretty fantastic as well. So he had his share in that win. I think no. That's that's entirely that's entirely fair. And then and then it costs for the for the good finale throw or aston could win the championship and asked him put their to number one. Dr martin roy salvadorian the lead car and they were really delivering until they're matched the car on fire in the pictures actually wasn't the first time after nanako far at goodwood and stop moss in carroll shelby car and recharges through another victory so really at least two of those three victories were almost directly results early. Moss but estimates. Greatest motorsport moment probably. Isn't it fifty nine. You'd have to say so. Winning the world championship. Yeah because a quite a strong feeling about self dory winning sixty three in the two one four copper copper into euro euro monza When he beat parks mike parks in the who is no slouch himself in. That must've been a pretty great thing to say but it goes another aspen win. Probably the only really decent win for the two one four but again would have been good to see and probably the lost. Great arming the loss of major international last victory until the non rooftop at sea bring on its debut in two thousand and one and then it goes one outright the t two which we also we were and the wrong estimating one if i remember but we didn't care too much when before workforce ball course i could be subjective. Now have to be more more about these things but my my memory just in case anyone cares why not go back to this as sort of a toss up between going back to nine hundred thirty seven to watch the wmt five versus the auto unions. Although i think that any individual rice probably weren't that close but the performance i probably would go back to a huge fan of the portion. Armone seven i would happily go and get completely honestly. Soaked brands hatch nineteen seventy when he was a lap behind and won the race by five laps credit performance in some of the footage the way he sees the car on the edge him indicated football star that day off for enough enough to interview and a couple of occasions. Incredible memory has that would probably be the event. Go back to yes. I think that would be another one. Certainly on my list and the irony is. I was probably at an ordinary club event at that point and my best friend who philip smith all i know now he actually was there and he described it all to me so yeah. That was a pretty amazing race so i think it was it. Did you say said said that. Can someone tell. Chris damon chris ayman. Can someone tell petro that. It's raining or something for everyone knows e story. Probably but it's worth repeating. That's phenomenal the i mean. I'm actually doing a little research on federal rigas at the moment just just happens to this race anyway but it's fifty s was killed at the lowest ring now next month so we do a pace dot com magazine on that and yeah the top ten drives of which i'm working for not giving too much away to say that the brands hatch race who appear quite quite high on on that on that list now the other the other fun bit that we did recently was your dream motorsport combo now. All i picked was pick a track. Pick a call pick a driver from any era. He could mash them together. It doesn't have to be around. So i picked nargile. Man-soo nineteen ninety-one spec silverstone in the porsche. Nine one seven thirty am call with fifteen hundred horsepower. In qualifying trim. Because well i will match the old silver stayed. I think i think anyone's whether it be senator. She mackerel even lewis. Hamilton would have trouble living with niger on peak form round there. Also you had to be a pretty brave brave son of a gun. I think to get the best out on seven thirty. And i think starting that would be believable to watch so that was my pick. Can you think of a combination. That's the didn't happen. The should've should've done or would have been nice to see account immediately. Bring something to mind. I'm sure if i was giving more time. I would come up with several but at the moment. I'm struggling I suppose mouse with v sixteen if that wretched thing bean reliable somewhere like would allow. I think it actually happened. Didn't it but that that must have been would have been a great combination because he was pretty critical of that car wasn't he so. I'm really struggling to think. The moment of a combination. I can at a match less level. I can think of one which i wish i had been there although i did see some on the television but most of your listeners probably laugh at this but i think simon hatfield the nine twenty thirty or a c t t race at goodwood revival in extraordinary conditions and in a car which really wasn't capable of winning this race normally somehow managed to take over from wolfgang friedrich's who owned that car. The two one two prototype and managed to take it through to win so that for me was a really good combination but not at the level where we're talking about now but combination. What actually finding off. I did a piece Well look i think marks parts you vote most of it in the end but we did a piece when the revival walls twin tease out good is now being active longer historic race any it poses a contemporary one which is pretty amazing and we asked the number of top drivers involved with with over the years to their highlight the only race that came up more than once whilst that ray simon hadfield picked it which is fair enough because my in the anthony reid is well and he was on the receiving end of simon's drive in the wetlands day and finished second. So that tells you something when the guy that finished second zone to win it. Picks it was quite mark with my other goodwood revolver memories go complete circle with of course what she must in the aftermath royalty finished fourth in one thousand nine hundred and nine hundred that i was in the rain to. Wasn't it so damp. And he started reasonably well sixteenth. I think it will. I think you'd have to say that. Most post world passes best long before that he he just found. He had the car that he loved. The fasano track that he loved traditions that he could exploit his incredible skill and yes. He drove beautifully that day. Sadly i never got to see him really in the. Hey day but Yeah that was turning the clock back. I feel for many of those who watched it. That was good. Roy yes yeah. He sought finished really sort of came through that day. The other thing. I remember growing williams and then not to jack. You're past we. We were watching between match week. And the the king cough that the name is escaping for water and he felt like he was sawed off by sounds he did eventually crashed twice. Actually he's heated. And i mean the wildly old fox. The deer in late gerry. Marshall was sort of watching this from far in second place. Relatively stay staying clear of this and probably knew that he was going to win the race since The jaguars never gonna sound track tracker those angles for the whole duration of the race but it certainly spectacular watching great fund provided..

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

07:49 min | 1 year ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"Not a good memory. Really all i seem to remember. I was also driving my saber six at that meeting. And i think i want my class but it was only a couple of zeenat so yeah mixed fortunes at that particular meeting well. I can sort of personal experience in an watching. That can confirm that. Don's a better better drawn than i am miam- the family. The family sort of relationship with janetta ideal. Because i ace. Outing was in a g twenty miles info engineer. So i'm for lawrence tomlinson bought. It rang me often more first week. Old sport and said realized that piece you wrote. Do you wanna come and do a race with this. And i was very green and naive and so yeah. That sounds cool. When he got through tests that quite easily and then went to the first race. Everyone who had not done any racing said uneasy genetic to draw avenue. you'll be fine stupidly. Didn't speak a lot point. Savants didn't actually speak to anyone. In your had driven a racing car at straw would have been out. Put me straighten about thirty seconds. I think so. I went along with no testing. Predictably was slowest and had several moments are got gradually faster rob to the point where i decided to throw a bit too early to spit too much out. Druids at brands hatch and put the car in war but someone was helpful to take a picture yes unfortunately or fortunately however you look at it. I was actually there with a camera and took a picture of it. But we did look into these cars later and you need to be a really good experience to drive drivers to get these other these cars and at least you did then and they were actually quite difficult and clearly. It wasn't the right car to go racing info. I is the first time out as she like to. Just return that genetic fifteen because You actually almost born in that car because your mother was taken to a hospital about to give birth to you in the passenger seat of that g fifteen which is was already modified at that time but we used it on the road so to have a bit of an affinity whether you like it or not now fair enough and actually that genetic browns ray so you have a picture that that took did appear in the magazine so if you've got an issue the mouth if we li- april early may two thousand in six. There's a picture of me climbing. Originator all our better than martinez. Shane lynch is a much better driver than me and he had a wheel. Bearing failure the turn off. The kunar often me which the and hospitals if i had the team had two broken cars and ninety one while i was gonna say driver one person. He sat in the car and turned the steering wheel after after qualified. Bits to guarantee the race much it wasn't it was much better than i drove the donald sport. Max iot yeah and you. You would trained properly during the course of the weekend yet. Some really good guidance and day you learnt from from that and you had a couple of good results. I seem to remember. yeah drew miller. I think it was that gave me the gave me some tuition it just it just proved i mean anyone been doing club racing. This testing is just absolutely crucial. Especially if in god the experience now you've got a lot of experience and you'll really good then you can be doing and be quick but if you're building up the experience you need to do some driving so uh did a die of testing at snetterton and i started off ten seconds off the pace in by the end of the day i was it and i was actually to take class. Power the following dialogue. I have to say. I think the call was the best card in the class. I think i did have a technical advantage. But had i qualified without any testing out of intensive care of the patient locker full. So that was that was quite a big big lesson the earth's or try to take through to when i'm talking to young up and coming drivers. I think that probably made up for your unfortunate a brands in genetic really. I think that showed that you could apply yourself and with people around you training you bean. Okay yeah it was. It was entertaining the first race. I was taken off by. Sam shaw coming down to the sec. Who soon you realize. I was a journalist is very apologizing came. Grab me to say so before we got as control it was. He's fully understand into me but it was nice to not have to have the argument and the next race had a fantastic zoo class b. There were three class cars and ike laid off they gumbo in the first lap and our had a battle with two g. Well he's one. Mg saw him drops off the bat because he's handing appallingly and then khloe edwards of the famous edwards family. Cook came through to catch the back of us and she looked car aggressive. Whose sad economy was battling with. But he was very fair even soviet. He's why he really didn't far meal. But chloe looked more graduates pleased to see disappearing off the road backwards when i was heading towards the bottom hole but unfortunately the end i think i was. I think i missed a gear. And he got me. So i finished. Fourth overall did win the class because he was registered for the class but he had very kind things to say good it was and i was interviewed by james afterwards. Because we knew that's the most common most what news editor long-term bridge torn call crossbow. Naturally top guy. We knew each other. We'd need is came up to me and when gone then what happened and he just let me talk for five minutes and used absolutely none of it which show he was very used to anyway. That's enough of that but we're going to finish on some on on some fund it so recently we've done a couple of things in the magazine and just kind of a strong policy light of of the staff which i wanted to run run by so if you go back to one moment in motorsport history. What would be to watch to watch. One particular modes boise are while you think about it. I'll just talk about my pick so our owner. You want to say now. I don't have a problem with this. I think it would have to be nurburgring. Late fifties moss. Dvr phenomenal stuff. I think tony brooks have gone and fifty seven to shy. What a good car. This was actually brooks is a great driver to But sterling the following two years one. It's okay. He was sharing the dry. But i think it will be fair to say heated. The line share on both occasions and he just put it put one over the friars on two years running to win in the three hundred probably since it was championship year or the year. They won the championship. I probably go for fifty nine so that be were not probably want to go back to if i had the opportunity. Yeah that'd be. That would be pretty cool. That was a very important race. Of course kills divy brown who owned estimate and some didn't even intend to go and it was basically went him and said well in debate won't be quite handy around there so he persuaded to let them have a car. I think he paid expensive. Moss paid the expenses as well certainly often pays expenses. But then i think he also said. We'll i if i pay the expenses and i win. Then i capable the winning which seemed to fail to me. Yeah that's fair. Sterling was very good on on on that sort of that sort of thing in a grabby. Why but just in knowing his worth and he did it in the money because of running away with the race feminism car. I put the car in the ditch. Fortunately was quite large man and strong enough to actually take car of it sterling. it all. He's changed into civvies when fame and brought the car in moscow change. Change back into the car and started. I think probably won. The greatest comeback drives in multiple history..

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

07:15 min | 1 year ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"Nineteen goodwood revival with salmon hatfield downturn wolfgang friedrich's through the day before. Gt they running in the kinara and that actually had a background being at one point in. Its life a multiple sports car which was of see now. A pre sixty six or pre sixty three spec cars. Whether you're talking eater sassoon's. Ferraris are worth more than than the kind of multi sports club specialist that we enjoy eighties nineties so we don't really see them but the other thing we say enough of anymore audit thing something i really enjoy. The racing sometimes wasn't very good and was what we used to call into mark with the big march plot. v8's richard chamberlain's non three five which has burnt to a crisp and rebe been rebuilt. I think at least once and is currently. I think competing. Gt carp and now looks like a sort of modern version of the wild tile may be fantastic car but in its previous lovely to bit more a standard nine. Three five is such a thing exists. There are some big eight tips. I guess those cars now. I really too. You be better off going and buying. Gt three car off the shelf. But that was one thing. I really enjoyed about club modes but with the kind of random one awful to of cars that would you say is. Almost anything goes wasn't there was no. I mean they were rigs off. See that govern them but they were allowed to develop in a way which made them extremely quick and a great spectacle to watch so yes and really good cars. And of course i did the same. Didn't they with the silhouette cars and so then silhouette wet saloons and in a similar similar sort of developments in in various areas of motorsport. Then and good times really. Yeah i guess the klay she gets that now's the classic sports car club. Has its own multiple super saloons. Don't wanna quit recreation. But because some of those calls all from periods and some of the kind of more recent bills. But that's probably the closest thing we've we've got to. I do remember one of my less. Spectacular moments on. The magazine was when i walked relaunched into mart which actually became something else and they wanted these high end cars to have their own pace. I think they called it super. Gt and this probably ten years ago. Probably bit more when i was on the national desk and very excited by the prospect of there was an icy full to i. They've been andy sheppard he. Which i believe he still has. I happen to know mandy. How much that cost to develop. And it's pretty i watering for those times and i think it just sits quietly new garage now because there's no way to raise. Yeah i saw him in the mcgann to ston for for the first one one year elite sort of super. Gt races and there were four cars of which i think only two of them were running. Think the rabbit on the track. Finish third remember seeing the rabbit type. It was It was unfortunate. That was one i called. I just really wanted it to busy exasperated. I think you hit the nail on the head. There it's the cost of the cars and now you're gt three being successful category around the globe. If you want a similar performance of car you can go and buy a ferrari lamborghini. Porsche astor martino. You name it and you'll be able to get support if you need it from the factory. You don't have to solve individual problems in that one chassis built so completely understand from an owner's point of view while you would go down right cars. Aren't they I i suppose the irony being an oldie all this performance equalizing i think is you know i suppose unnecessary thing to keep the racing even but always loved it when a manufacturer would stay steal a march on another one and the others would have to catch up and you know you but this is a long time ago and i know this is financially impossible to support such an approach motoracing now but But i think gt ratings great. I mean i think the ones were fantastic. And of course it won't come as any surprise to learn that my favorite modern gt car is the debut nine which are still thinks. A stunning i think darrynton turner. I believe has said it. Would a fantastic piece of kit was but then he would a works driver. I guess but yeah that's That would be my favorite modern. Gd off but they're all fantastic things a call superb goals and i still prefer over these from engineer. We'll drive to the mid engine. So i'm sorry for those fans of modern machinery but the engine's in front the drive should be at the back and that's where it should be happy with prototypes with the engine. In the middle of different matter. I think is necessary when you're moving forward and trying to get the best performance out of a vehicle that you you have to take the modern approach to things and i guess mid engine is an has been really since the sixties the best way forward. But you just can't get away from from engines big from engines and real drivers where it should be for me. Yeah i think. I think you'll appearance would would agree with that show. The i'm being in one year when you go down into the bits as a journalist with your overall was on and the are actually a danger not because of when they came in they were so loud when they went they really ship the ground. The turbo-diesels persian the out is which were much quieter step aside. Tom corvettes thundering by you. Can incoming now are. There was one occasionally at one of the persian pitstops. The the front dive plane very nearly chop y ankles off because i was standing in a stupid place. Enhancing coming in if you're in the middle of a twenty four hour race and remember june. The audi persia years the race winning the twenty four hours a sometime measured in seconds. You not going to start for idiotic journey standing in the way you just gonna plow through basically so the almost got me. I'm gonna blaming. The corvette completely unreasonable. It's quite interesting talking about the sounds of those cars because I've only ever been to lamar twice for various reasons. But i did go in two thousand seven with my neighbor in and we camped out near the circuit. Usually we kept awake by fellow campus. But on the saturday night when the race was in full flow there only two cars. We could hear going round and they were in huge battle which lasted to the end of the race and it costs it was the sound we could hear sakovic grumbling loud car and the higher pitch v twelve scream of the db. Nine's just fell asleep. I first lonely night in that. Four nights sequence. I actually fell asleep. Listening to what to me was music. So fantastic car's fantastic. Yea funny how you. Your brain can get used to racing engines game past. It's the random sounds of spectators that catch you out. Well i think you see me sleep behind. Press rooms in the back of road cars especially when some gentleman with a quote by practically run through your tent. Two o'clock in the morning..

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"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

07:04 min | 1 year ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"Is only a new insight but warwick switched that car instead you show. This is within the roles. And tom said just drive the car probably less diplomatically than that and at the end of the race doubting the points of the win and he lost the championship to be by a smaller margin number of points that he would have should have got that even if it stays in the brand new car and finish third with with martin barrett was robbed of that one but fortunately did win it with persia the following the following year. And will you at silverstone. Classic nicholas essien for i was Was that two thousand thirteen years. Thirteen to four. It was thirteen years on these historic races are very good of course but they don't obviously have the top drives of the day in the normally and You don't really get to see. Quite how quickly ought menasian. That day was still current. Possibly steelers out of touch top driver and he just drove this thing as it should be and literally disappeared down the road and we never calls wrestler field. Ever saw him again. Really and i think he brought the Historic silverstone. Gp recco there and. I don't think it's been beaten since now. It's not been beaten by any subsequent one historic one races and of course now. They're no longer using the rapid while callixte chicane. The fast left right. We put club after us. The formula one tighter chicane now. So i suspect that that could be a record that's held for all time. Yes and didn't include the bridge. That was all. I think that was off to the wash. I'm not sure now. Oh now you won't show bert bombs going to say what a sad thing that is the bridge sections disappeared because that was always a fantastic part of that. I think there's a separate peace or podcastone. The great lost corners of motorsport. And i would say bridget silverstone is definitely want especially in the pre abby. Chicane days i'm thinking nardi mat-su williams. Fw fourteen beef flattery on his on his qualifying lap. Very was waived two seconds quicker than regarded betrays -i in the system about three six quicker than anyone else including senator. We've often a fantastic tangent. There what are we talking about. Oh yes the menasian storage wanted to come back to that. Because i standing on the wing with jonathan gail who's very helpful promoter media person feels classic and he said to me all hope menasian doesn't just clear off into the distance and makes a racist and i said i hope absolutely obviously i've come here to watch a pro driver driver proper car properly. And that's what he awfully. He did when he got out. He said it's good practice to call driving. I need sees faster a twenty year old car. So yeah next year fourteen. A big big fan of that. But it's all about the big staff in the forest and we've probably gone to more club racing events together than anything else very accessible. If you don't go to club race meetings then you should give it. Give it a try. You can get around and see an awful lot more than you would normally a big event and of course it cheaper to go to is a course where everything's opened up when the lockdown completely ends so what now you you had to take me too many races first of all the longest fans but then later on when i started doing freelance reporting for ospel and one of my ways of getting my foot in the door was to be able to go anywhere at the last minute. I'd use a couple of times phone can. Can you get to pembrey on thursday. And of course when i said yes what i really meant was yes. My dad can drive me these events. How annoying was that annoying already. Because i enjoyed the motoracing. Anyway we ever get to pay are actually pembrey. One tila joined the mavericks. That's a bad example. But yeah we being up to cadwell down to lytton obviously silverstone rockingham not my most favorite venues but an status in which i think's undervalued mallory impart what a fabulous circuit but sadly not easy to get a lot of the people that race with the club. I'm involved in seem to be reluctant to drive across because it's five asked to drive just to tournaments practice and a half now race but yes we went all over the place and a half very good memories of those whether or not a moment's notice or not and usually had a good car to drive even if it was old. That's true yeah. I was fortunate to drive around all be driven around various sort of interesting cars very occasionally later on to actually borrow the car so yeah thank you very much officially to dad for for taking me to those events and sorry to all of those. It means that you've now had to with me on the magazine for a decade and a half and listen to my wintering on various various podcasts. But just thinking about some of the memories stand out. Those club races are remember anywhere. Cars are now those sort of mull sports db four and they were fantastic to watch a little. Tv are well. so i mean small. Diminutive joe ward think how to yeltsin. I remember the first time you saw one of the tv are grits. And then i think it was at brands. And i think you immediately termed it the pocket rocket and nothing as absolute accurate description of this the the grip but oversee as martin fan. I have been all my life. I loved the before multiple cars as well. And i think the reason they've moved on because the cars are worth so much now that it's makes more sense financially to return them to more of sort of row trim. We've probably seen the of those. Interestingly enough i had a very quick. Check with pete foster last weekend and you reminisce briefly about it and i love the car he drove. It wasn't necessarily quickest because they chop gerry. Marshall and people like that in some very quick cards but has a particular significance of car that pete foster rancid is good to bump into him. Yeah that was the green with a yellow sort of knows bangles together. Yeah i remember that ben. He was usually kind of in that third fourth fifth position. Normally y out there with is people like jerry. I think though on on the history of the car's probably the longest campaign d. before and probably with the most result good results on record so yeah well actually just to make the point about the value of the calls and different spec spent. When was it two thousand..

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"kevin turner" Discussed on Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

02:12 min | 1 year ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

"Me. That's exactly she's got a cute up to the exact right boy. All right, let me try it again. Okay, but I wear I get Why did you call her a bitch? Called you a bitch. Sugar bits, You know, bitch. Uh, let us now, uh, First of all, send our best wishes to skin Wade. We miss you today. Uh, good luck with your court proceedings, and I hope you have a good lawyer, bro. But let's no Yeah. Oh, my God. We're going to focus on the people who are not in jail. That are here today and I'll start with a man who hails from only Texas, where he was born and raised by some, incredibly, uh, patient parents. Who went out to watch him as a senior play on that vaunted JV only high school baseball team, which Hovered around 500 hit somewhere near the back end of that and had some mid relief help. There were a playoff team, and he's a guy who is known for falling off some of the most dangerous, perilous tee boxes and olive only to injure himself. Only known as the taint of Texas located smack dab between the Panhandle and the Metroplex. And with no further ado Here he is that old dirt road rabbit. The most talented man in DFW radio. Besides Gordon, Keith Kevin Katie Turner. Let me see if I find a good one. Yeah, I just, you know Don't the timing. Uh, we seem like fine one man. Uh, if the music hits right there, Not a good one. No, those guys thought that was good energy didn't have enough to it. I thought that was good. Like Hmm. I mean, that's uh I got to get some more stuff on my computer, then. I mean, I need to do that. Okay. Watch watch. Kevin Turner. Oh, almost almost, uh, Kevin Turner. Yeah, yeah,.

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"kevin turner" Discussed on Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

03:13 min | 1 year ago

"kevin turner" Discussed on Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

"Last night Jason Biggs and I are sitting in our seats at Hinkle Fieldhouse and that model walks by and that is obviously been in the news quite a bit with this Indiana discussion and Coach Mota talk with him in the shoulder. We talked for like a probably a good minute. I always really really like coach mod and I really respect him and we had a good conversation and I put my headset back on and off early. I'll say it was seven and a half seconds after that. He'd been in the building for like 1 minute. There must have been Sirens going off and Hinkle Fieldhouse. My man, Jeff Goodman was off he was on it. You were literally there. I was like man he is ready for the scoop and that's what makes you you you were on it. So I that was my My best moment. I'm a big guy. I'm a big fat guy like like you and and you know, I've kept in touch with him over the last couple of years cuz I know he was worn down physically and emotionally from everything in Ohio State and you know, he's been in Florida. He also I didn't realize like literally he's got a house three miles from both that's where they live now in to both of his daughters go to Fowler, you know again, I refuted the report out there that said that that he had verbally agreed to the Indiana job and failed the physical complete inaccuracy wage top of that a minute about that and you know what she intrigued. Yeah, he he was intrigued by it Rob. But ultimately again, I don't think that might have finished at Indiana at all at all. He's low-key. Yeah, you know more about the hiring process for these coaches than you is it normal to give a coach a physical like there a plane. No, no, but that's dad probably is different. Okay. Yeah, he was with his he'll know right? I mean he looked at him even yesterday. He's got a brace on he's got dropped foot off from a surgery. He had on his back years ago, but he sounds great. I mean, he looks good like bad if he wants to if he wants to get back in and work at a high level again in recruiting their work. There were a few better. I mean shity got Greg Oden in my colony and Daequan Cook and a lot of other really good players. Like that was a beast off on the recruiting Trail back when when you were coming up from a beast. I mean you look at that space in the Heat team that he got seen every guy record on that Squad if you look at some of the other guys a guy like Kevin Turner now Evan he developed Evan really well to Evan was like in the fifties recruiting lot but like BJ Mullens a big-time gift most wage. If this is a big-time get Jared Sullinger, I mean William Buford those those are highly recruited dues. And I mean, he's a really good coach, but he he was a really good recruiting not too cuz he always had high level town on those, Ohio State seems Let me tell you guys a little bit about our partners over bet River Sportsbook. If you haven't signed up with.

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