19 Episode results for "Kevin Meyer"

055: HBO Max and Peacock Reveal More Content

The Streaming Wars

37:35 min | 4 months ago

055: HBO Max and Peacock Reveal More Content

"You're listening to the Stream was the podcast that discusses all of the latest happenings regarding your favorite streaming services. Find out which is winning the war this time around episode of the streaming. Moore's I'm Dustin Antonio with me and we are here to cover everything from me. Thirteenth through nineteenth. We have a bunch of news because it seems like stuff is starting to ramp up. So we don't have any overall main discussion but we do have a bunch of smaller discussions related to some news points. So let's get into the news story off with Netflix. There is a ton of content. The next netflix either announcing or teaming with certain creators or purchasing so I stop. Netflix's purchased the global rights to the Polish TRIBECA winner. The hater Netflix's teamed up with sky for a true crime series set in Texas Netflix's has given a series order to sweet tooth. This is actually coming from team. Robert Downey production company team with him for that then Netflix's also teaming with reese witherspoon for to Rom comes in the future. Athletes is also buddy mark. Wahlberg with a seven figure. Film deal after. I guess the success of Spencer confidential last month Superhero Project Ball and chain featuring dwayne Johnson and emily blunt is landed at Netflix and then finally Netflix's aimed aims to adapt stay close from Harlan Kobe after his previous project. The Stranger was adapted just a few months ago and it saw some success. Yeah just really look it over the news. It seemed that Netflix's really open up the purse strings. A bit is really investing in new content. Either in developing in house or buying rights are paying new actors in project. So I think it's. It's great to see Netflix After few weeks of narrow much content news. It's like okay. Hey we were charging for it. So it's great for them Sweet Tooth I have the comic but I know some people who have and they've been really interested in seeing this in live action however this is like one of those titles. That wouldn't really make sense if it was a movie or a TV show on cable on just because it's about this kid who's half boy half deer and that's a little bit hard to conceive so being put on a streaming service Netflix. Swear I'm the budget could be a little bit higher. Just doesn't have to worry about advertisers or something I don't know it seems like the perfect property for streaming service in for Netflix. So hopefully works out. Everyone likes it a little bit concerned for this true crime series sent Texas once reading the description of it. It seems that it's going to follow the killers as he is released to kind of getting a view in his life. And I'm just afraid that they're gonNA accidentally humanize him in a way. That's going to be disrespectful to the people that he's killed so I can see I can see that becoming it potential she for net flicks and everyone seems like true. Crime is a big thing. This alleged crime podcast books. Obviously television shows with Netflix. They've really loved True Crime. But afraid that this is kind of pushing that line in. I would hate to see the one death of the true crime because they think it's important to revisit old cases in for for the public to learn about them but I don't know this this one series kind of feels a little bit too far for me personally and I'm afraid that they're gonNA get a lot of pushback from that in the mosques is the stay close agitation from Harlan copen. It's seems like Netflix's taking the one brothers approach year with JK rollings. Where they you know. Have her relationship with her payroll crank out all the all the Harry Potter series. You know the eight or something movies nine movies from her source material than fantastic beasts with with that trilogy in just she's just cranking out content in. It seems that they're kind of taking this approach of Kate. We're not just GONNA like avante contract like actors or writers or producers like we're GonNa have the ritual source material have good relationships with them. Have contract whatever that you want to call that relationship. It's we're GONNA go to the source and make relationships with the people that make the source material in. This is a smart move especially in this age of of streaming wars in this push for new content and the push original ideas near Nefyn has done very well of reaching outside of the normal Hollywood writers pool in to get new ideas. So that's to me a interesting and hopefully it's a trend. Moving forward is something that I remember. Hearing about. Through a variety of different content creators specifically writers of books was that at one point in time. Netflix's was looking for content so heavily that they actually attended like a book conventions where authors would be promoting their books to libraries and book resellers and things like that just so that they could find a project I remember hearing the story from a writer who specifically said like as a writer. You'd have a little booth you'd sit there and you'd be promoting your book hoping that people would come by and ask about it but one thing that they always hope for was somebody would come by and say they were represented from Netflix. Because that meant that they had there was a potentially get a deal with developing your book into a series and that was like a big deal for a lot of writers especially up and coming ones bots very cheap for net flicks where they can acquire content from the source material but also get content at very low cost to them. So if you have any decent idea netflix's would turn the to a series runs through South Park episode where they just Into a series. Yeah I definitely think there was probably at least five years ago but it's definitely some time but all right so prime video Amazon has grabbed the UK rights to Alex Rider spy franchise. There is a documentary focusing on. Spain's golden generation football players coming to prime video as well trumping straight over to Hulu There's a documentary from Leonardo DiCaprio specifically. He's producing called and we go green. Which will be heading to Hulu? And then it has been announced that. Who's international rollout is on hold so is doomed no. I don't think so at all. I think I mean. I think that the growth that they were anticipating is definitely going to be hindered by the fact that they won't be rolling out internationally in the in the immediate future but I think long term I think who still has you know still has thirty plus million subscribers that will carry them for quite some time. I think the the thing that will kill Hulu of course is if they can't keep creating content. They're going to eventually lose out on a lot of other shows that are currently on. Hulu once specific licensing deals run out and if they can't make up the content with new content the way Netflix's has than that could be doomed. But I don't think that's going to be happening anytime in the immediate future. Yeah I can just see people reading this headline all know. They're doomed to know they're just GONNA go. Go Die Something. I wanted to be the situation I think. Hulu after receivers earnings call their the steady growth either with their streaming service but also their their live service of cable channels on their on their platform. So both of those are doing well however when you look you take a step back okay. Who is owned by Disney Disney also another streaming service called Disney plus? Who's had a huge push in the international market? And it's hard to do two things at one time in a thing. Fats who's always been domestic Kanaabi national but there's no real need I guess because there's still so much to grow at domestic that okay. Hey we'll just put whose plans on the back burner for a bit. And then just focus on Disney plus now because they're folks with Disney plus and in growing that sprint into new markets. I mean listen to the past three or four episodes and it just feels like there's a new market that they're introducing themselves to every single episode so I think they're also taking a lot of those lessons learned from Disney Pleasanton Palm to Hulu as well. It's hard to do two things at the same time and do them well and so they're just going to focus on one and not the other. Because I mean if you think about it who lose like digital assets are definitely worth a lot less in an international space then. Disney's because you have no all the Disney animated shows you have moral you have lucasfilm and those have really big international peel and you can get people to sign up for that service to me. It makes sense and if people wanna read this and be a little bit worried and concerned but it's hard. It's hard to have the bandwidth to do basically launched to services at two different companies. But do that one company rights then jumping over. Cbs All access access has ordered another star Trek Series Gold Star Trek. Strange new worlds. This is going to be a full series for the service I think this is. This is great I think. Cbs has taken a page from Disney. Split Book with Disney plus an just releasing content from their their main cash cows. You know star. Trek is a huge property. That many people know that many people have are very fervent about in. So this is this is great for good things about intimates character in the latest you know seasons of Star Trek done great with Picard Discovery. So this is great for CBS. Alexis Happy for them curious. See what more comes from star? Trek universe jumping over to apple. Tv Plus Sofia Coppola has is developing adaption of the custom of the country for Apple. Apple is also landed the next docu series from the creators of Macmillan's then they have announced that mythic quest will beginning a quarantined episode that will be specifically filmed with iphones. They've also landed a deal with Scott. Free productions and apple is now entering the market for older content according to Bloomberg. Yeah so we're start. I'll start with Scott free productions and did know much about Scott free productions in who they were but now after reading the article do a little bit of research they have a track record and so apple struggling right now and they ne- as many credits as they have in. It seems like they've they've landed a lot of good craters and their their content is decent but there is not enough content in a non of decent content to really push themselves forward so in the kind of also goes into with apples now entering the market for older content is because the kind of focused just on newer shows kind of covering shows from their backlog like one brother or HBO. Max Or Disney plus with Becca content into the marvel properties whatnot or friends. But apple doesn't really have the and so after it make sense. Why they're kind of getting more craters wanting to increase the output of new properties and it makes sense whether WanNa get older content. However what older content? Are they getting kit? This article is a little bit. It's confusing because what older content shows like all of the big name shows that are very enjoyable have been taken up other other players in the market. What is left? And there's a lot of older. Tv shows that aren't necessarily good so I'm curious that since they didn't pay pay for some of these other shows that had The rights you know open for a little bit last last year last calendar year curious. What they're gonNA do with that because there's a lot of things that could potentially happen but a quote from the article. They're really concerned me. Is that according to people there about ten million people had signed up for Apple. Tv plus by February but only about half actively used the service so you know half of ten million people as five million people. There's only five million active users for Apple. Tv plus in Apple TV pluses easily accessible on every single iphone. You get a free subscription for every for every new apple device that you you register since on recruits on sworn. Tv's like as a staggeringly low number and they have pretty decent content so If Apple is kid together I can really see them. Exit out of this whole streaming wars. My Apple is myth. The quest it's the one show that if apple streaming service hope it goes to Amazon or somebody to still keeping weird but I love the quest. I think it's hilarious. Show thing the premises little bit. Funny because I like how software it is. Yes there is a quarantine in everyone has to work from home. And it's like I don't know I was offered developer so it's Kinda funny to watch much of Nerdy. Software developers. Try to work from home and so I'm happy from quest. Give me more with quest elephant so much. So what are your thoughts apple especially about the older content. Yes the older content. Might my thing is it would be nice to know what type of older content they're looking for. Obviously than big money draws right. This second are going to be popular TV series. That's are going to garner a lot of viewers just to come. Hbo Max in some ways. Not I wouldn't say. They hedge their bets on friends but they spent a lot of money on friends. Have other shows like Big Bang theory that have within House that they're losing money on by keeping in house? Meanwhile they have other series like everybody loves Raymond which they've licensed over to peacock because it's not as popular as say friends or big. Bang theory that said I think that ultimately it just comes down to you look at. What's what's apple. Tv has a possibility of going out and purchasing and outside of content. That necessarily that isn't necessarily great. There's the only other possibilities is some of the rumors that we've heard in the past. Which is that you know. Mgm was looking for basically backing and apple could swoop in and they could basically by MGM and then own the studio and just had the steal run by itself but have access to all MGM's content MGM still has to this day a pretty decent size library while not as extensive extensive and they don't have as many classics do to the Turner Deal from the One Thousand Nine Hundred Eighty S. There is still a lot of content that MGM has to offer and to this day they still create content on television. Not as much as they once did but they still do. I think ultimately it's GonNa come down to whether or not they can find a good match. I don't know that. Mgm necessarily as the best match. Unless of course they're looking for a studio that they can just outright by. I don't see any other possibility. The only other studios that aren't involved in the stream worst would be Sony at this point in Sony. I don't I don't see that happening. There's maybe some content deals Sony Television does create a lot of content in general but they are typically the ones who are developing stuff. Then selling it off to a variety of different services. I mean a lot of people probably don't even know this. House of cards. The very first Netflix series was actually put together by Sony. Television Seinfeld was a Sony television project. There's a lot of projects at Sony has had a part in over the years so there is the possibility that there's other content out there and the thing is sometimes you don't even think about certain content until it gets announced. I think sometimes their series that are very popular that they go by wayside. Nobody's really talking about them. But the promise when you think about just the staples of television entertainment over the past thirty years. There's only so many that have extensive amount of seasons that really have that audience that you can draw getting something as popular as Mash. Sure is great but is that really going to draw the audience at Apple's looking for I don't think so so it really just comes down to where are they going to seek out this content and then what ultimately are they going to get because it just don't know that there's a lot I mean. They could have put if they were really thinking about doing this. They should have put their hat in the ring for Seinfeld because that would have been a good one to go get but they didn't. So we'll see all right so Over to Disney plus Disney plus has acquired the feature film clouds. This is actually coming from Warner media. But they've purchased it for airing on Disney. Plus there's a Percy Jackson series in development for Disney plus. Probably the biggest news of the week is that the Disney plus had exact. Kevin Mayor has actually left the company to become the CEO over a TIKTOK. What's your thoughts audience bef- before we recorded Destined made a note and our show notes that he has lots of things to talk about the Disney. So I'll just address Percy Jackson bit then let Dustin just rent for a while. Percy Jackson series at Disney plus. This is the perfect type of content. That would be for identity. Plus show got this. You know themes of adventure mystery like a mythic type quality with monsters stuff like that in a really fits in with what they're trying to do. And always the Percy Jackson series would always be better as a TV show especially unlike a streaming platform versus cable. So I'm happy about this Jackson Development because there is a lot of people who like the books and they felt maybe like the movies didn't necessarily do them justice by all Streaming show would do the Percy Jackson series justice. But now it's time for for Dustin. Please tell me why what bothers you about Kevin Mayor Leeann the Disney Company. Here's here's the thing. I was one of the people who sat there instead that Kevin Mayor was probably the one of the best options for a replacement for Bob idea and the reason why is because not only has Kevin Meyer been the head executive over Disney plus which currently is literally the diamond. The crown jewel of what Disney is right now because of the lack of everything else. That's going on now. That's not necessarily anybody spoiled but Disney pluses one of the few places that is still has the ability to make any sort of money and still be able to grow in this situation that we are currently in the issue of course is that Disney as a company is not solely focused on something like Disney. Plus they're focused on other media and they're also focused on the parks and merchandise and that is a big part of their business and Bob Schieffer who ultimately took over as CEO. From Bob Eiger. He comes from the parks and merchandise side of the. What's very interesting about this? I think a lot of people in the tech world were surprised that they Disney. Who seems to be moving forward and forward thinking to the future chose to have someone put into the CEO role of somebody who comes from that older side of the business when it comes to the parks and merchandise not not something for example. Disney plus and things like that. The other thing with Kevin Mayor is that Kinda mayor was involved in every single one of the major acquisitions that D- that Disney has been involved with since Pablo has taken over as CEO of the company. He was involved with the Pixar acquisition. He was involved with Lucasfilm Fox. These are all Emon as that he was involved in. He had a big part in it. Surprising that somebody who is so heavily involved in those aspects of the company and then was put in charge of direct to consumer side of the business with Disney plus. Isn't somebody who Disney decided to go with as their new CEO? That said it's not surprising that when he was passed over that he would leave. Because there's not really anything left for him to do a Disney can't move any further. A person like him isn't going to switch over to the parkside in the merchandise side of the business. That's not what he's going to do. The consumer product side of the business. He's that's not his area of expertise under BOB SHAPE. Pack where he was basically his colleague not now. His colleague is his boss. There's no reason for him to stick around this. Was I think anybody in the tech world would would agree that it was very obvious that there's only a matter of time before he left after he got passed over for the COO role wide. I think it's a big deal is because he is a he has been very instrumental for the last fifteen years at Disney. And I think that's a lot of people assume that because Bob Shaye pack has been in charge of certain areas that bring in a lot of money. That's the reason why he got it. But honestly there are people within the Disney community and the business side. That don't believe about she. Peck is necessarily the right person for the job. But he was in the right spot to move up within the company. So I think ultimately it's it's it's not great for Disney to lose somebody as high on. Who's involved in so many different aspects of the business and growing the business over the last fifteen years? I don't think it's great. I mean the his replacement it was basically his second in charge. They just moved up. They shifted off shifted around all kinds of other stuff. The head of Walt Disney world. The president of Walt Disneyworld moved over to Bob. She picks old job. This was all corporate restructuring at its finest once. Kevin Mir was a resignation was announced. And that he's heading over to tack. It will be interesting to see what happens with that because I honestly feel like. That's again just stepping stone for him. I don't think he's going to be at Tock Very Long. Probably KIND OF GUIDE TIKTOK. Maybe the next couple of years to try to deal with the issues that they're dealing with because he has a great person to help deal with that kind of stuff. But I honestly don't think that he's going to be there very long and it's honestly only a matter of time before he potentially go somewhere else. The one thing that I have heard from some industry insiders that surprising that he wasn't the one that one or media actually picked to become the new CEO at one or media. But I think the only reason he wasn't was because at the time when they were seeking out. Ceo for worm media. His name wasn't even in consideration because a lot of people will just thought he was neck and neck with Bob Shape to take over Disney and he would make sense for him to stick with Disney rather than go seek out job somewhere else and that obviously that hunt happened in occurred and he wasn't involved in the job because he was he was loyal to Disney at the time. So I think it's great for Tiktok. I don't think it's great for for Disney long-term because I don't know this early that his second command is going to be able to do as good of a job that he did. But there's nothing saying that she can't either so we'll see what happens but I think that's Disney as a whole. This was a huge huge loss but it makes perfect sense. That had happened because of the way the cards fell to kind of back off. You said the IT'S A it's sad for Disney to lose a person that Kevin Meyer analysts. Say that they lost two people at the same time like they had eiger retire. Who is leading more into streaming looking to the future I guess and then you also have Kevin Kevin Meyer leaving at the same time. So it's like yeah one person's retiring but really to people left the same time which is kind of a double whammy which is now what they what they wanted. I don't know chip it. Well maybe he will do well for the role but reading through. Eiger 's is is biography almost What what. He came out in some things about him. It seems that Kevin Meyer would be like the spiritual successor to Bob. Eiger in terms of looking to the future pushing Disney in a new direction de leveraging the business just from Mike. You know parks in media also really focusing on film in pushing forward with that instrument services so from that aspect. I think it said that he that he he left. Especially since you have who who Disney pause to two of the massive streaming you know competitors in the market right now and then. He's he's kind of gone so this takes for that. I'm curious to how what is new roles can be at TIKTOK and people. Don't take talk to talk of video. Sharing site were you send people doing funny stuff. I guess and for me personally. It's like a a watchout qube Because TIKTOK and Qube feel like are more more true competitors in terms of like you know where they fit in in in the market verses like qube versus a Netflix. So they're coming over. And we'll be worried about that. I could definitely see Meyer leaving after two. Ipo honestly I could see Meyer Pumpkin that up and then making them look have come out because yeah the the talk appeal has been something that's been on the back burner for Awhile. So yeah overall. This is Ed for Disney Especially where they were looking forward to as a company so it almost makes me question. If Bob Eiger is choice was Kevin Meyer and the boards choice was was sheep and I only say that because the board yeah I mean like I'm not trying to sit here in create any sort of controversy either but the reality of it is that. Why would Bob Eiger knowing what we know from his biography? And the way he's operated his business. And the fact that Kevin Meyer has basically worked alongside him all this time. Why would he not have chosen Meyer to replace him especially with the four way that he's been pushing the company I mean before? We got the Disney plus. He was saying he stated over and over again that a lot of what he was doing with bringing in these acquisitions and things like that was to basically have a larger opportunity to have a direct consumer option that that way they could have something that would be comparable to net flix. And that's the forward way of that. Borough was running. The company just seems odd that we would have gone in a direction. Where somehow the person who had nothing to do with those acquisitions had nothing to do with the launch? Disney plus is. The person has taking over unless of course it was something like the board wanted shape pack because of his experience with the parks and the consumer product side of the business. And Meyer didn't have that and that's why they decided to go there. Because that is ultimately what Disney's business has been the majority about for the last multiple decades. It's the reality of it. So in also explains in some ways why Bob Eiger step down. Ceo But then immediately they you know like weeks later we hear that he's going to be taking on specific roles within the company to help kind of shape into this thing because there's a lot of things that he doesn't he doesn't know how to do because of what he was so focused on. Disney like a big part of. It is the merchandise in the in the parks. But you know. What are they selling merchandise of of some of their properties either? It's going to be streaming but tricia it's GonNa be there television movie properties. Thank they're selling characters know the theme parks like it's it's just launched the new star wars part of the park. So I mean it is about the media is about the content it is about you know the new streaming platforms and how the MCI doing Lucasfilm. You know all the other you know players in the media space. Yeah I get the other part. Might be a bigger pie of the revenue. But what drives the revenue the characters? It's it's the stories. It's what they can sell off that so like I get what you're you're saying but it's I feel like I was seeing that two of like the IP drives rest of the business products exact like it was. If it wasn't for frozen you wouldn't have had elsa on toys that my daughter has like you wouldn't have the new star wars toys that that come out or the new stores park or something like that so exactly. You need those stories to come out. You need to get those stories names of people. They're gonNA buy them baby. Yoda we complained. How there was no baby. Yoda Merch molest Christmas in. And we wouldn't have had that if it wasn't for Disney plus so it is a little bit of a catch twenty two so understand. Why the but you gotta look at. Where's the company going and it's not? It's not the parks the merchandise leading the company anymore. I really think it is the content it is streaming that is pushing Disney further and further into the future and everyone else is kind of reaping the profits off of that a good way you know reaping the benefits from from that push. I mean it definitely is that if you don't have the IP or a successful way of delivering that Ip to audiences in the first place. Yeah sure everybody makes a big deal about holly vendors. Endgame made two Billion Dollars. And that's great but they don't see all two billion dollars. A movie cost an insane amount of money to make they have to give certain amounts of that revenue to the theaters. There's all kinds of marketing. It's extremely expensive. Where they make their money is when that movie is successful and then that film goes on to create lots of merchandise theme park rides things that people want to go spend more money on long term and the idea of expanding these Ip's into Disney plus and having them more consistently appearing within people's televisions or in theaters and things like that. That is something that is extremely important to grow the more important side of the business which brings in a lot more money. Yeah I I completely agree I was just GonNa add that even with push for Spiderman. I people are like well. They're split the rights. Or maybe the the the the the rights splitting the revenues from the box with Sony but no marvel gets all the merchandise. So it's it's marvelous. Best interest to put out new. Ip to get all of that sputter emerge which makes a lot of money. I was just trying to piggyback off of completely with what you're saying is that yes. The I P fuels rides in parks People go to parks and also merchandise content as well. We'll wait and see what happens but I honestly think that. Tiktok is in a better position than they probably were. Couple days ago jumping over to QUBE QUBE has added Houston Astros cheating scandal docu series to their slate jumping over to HBO. Max Stephen King and Joe. Hill's throttle is in development at. Hbo Max Hbo Max's acquired the US streaming rights to the Doghouse and HBO. Max has acquired a young adult novel camp for a future film as well as HBO. Max's announced their second wave of original content. Now if you remember correctly we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Hvac at once they're going to have about five new shows. They're releasing on a variety of different ways. Some of them will premiere the first episode in them. Release episodes weekly like we've seen with other services like Disney plus some of their content. That isn't necessarily as High Profile. They'll be releasing all at once depending on what type of content it is. I think that ultimately when we heard. Hbo Max's plans. They were sticking with. We want everything. Release weekly and stick with that schedule. But I think they've realized that certain content doesn't work in a weekly format especially when it's designed for children and things like that when especially when for example. You've got situations where you have cartoon network airing almost an entire season worth of shows in just a couple of weeks because they will air them every single weekday just to have them all air so they can keep rearing them and rake in that advertising dollars anyway that being said there is a ton of new content. That's going to start kicking off starting on June. Eighteenth I'm going to run through the entire list. You can check it out but there is a variety of different content. A lot of the stuff that was announced way way way back like Last July there was attached to HBO before even had a name. This is the content for example doom patrol which was originally over. Dc Universe their second seasons can be premiering on June twenty fifth some of the content from tbs or cartoon network that are existing properties that already existed are going to have either new seasons air or animated specials that deal with characters from existing properties. So it's a lot of content that they've had in the works for quite some time words content that didn't require a lot of effort to put together meaning. It was reality. Television unscripted television where they could put it together very quickly prior to everything that happened with the pandemic but still content that was announced at least six months ago so they have a large amount of content. Also the American pickle feature film that they acquired from Sony which we talked about either last episode two episodes ago. That's also on the slate for Aug six. What it shows is that they have more content that they actually have put together compared to peacock which will talk about in a second but also in some cases maybe as much or more than the the amount of content that Disney plus has at launch specifically because as they bragged about since the very beginning their service. That hits all the demographics male female old young. They're hitting a lot of different demographics and the type of content that they're releasing green to be a variety of different content. It's not going to be focused. Solely on families like Disney plus. That's one of the reasons they're trying to say that it's it's a better value for a family rather than Disney plus so yeah the that makes sense the different more content am. I think what's GonNa Health Matters? Is They have a great backlog of content. That's great but also is that. Hbo Max Themselves Are Not. Doing the heavy lifting on all these different shows like they're distributing them through the HBO Max in El Portal but it's you have DC universe that's doing content there. You got there. Some stuff from is different cartoon network. That's unveiling just they're bringing in stuff from other partners and also releasing their own originals while also having even. Tbs You have some stuff from TBS on here. So having their partners really playing to roll of carrying of shouldering the burden of producing the content is also been good especially during this time. And it's hard for new services to have original content and it's the way how h from Max is structured is that they can leverage their partners to pop up new content on their if they want rotate new stuff outs. They have their own original stuff. So I think that's what's GonNa sit. Hbo Max Apart versus their competitors during this shortage due to cope nineteen is because they have always players and pieces they can move on and Chessel and also unscarred there but yeah they they definitely just straight up have earned to have more content than Disney plus maybe not necessarily for one demographic but I think for if you look at all demographics not have much more content than some of the other dreaming people out there all right then jumping over to peacock. They did not want to be outdone and the day after. Hbo announced their second wave of content. Peacock actually announced their launched wave of content. And like I said as Kinda hinted at when we're trying to HBO. Max is nowhere near as large asleep as as Hbo Max. They have to dramas. They've got to comedies. To sports shows in three kids shows. And that is basically what. I'm honestly expecting them to have for the most of the remainder of the year because of the content production halts that they've had in place there might be a couple of animated shows the popout out because it can still be working on animated shows and there is a possibility that there are a couple of other shows that could that were in the process of being underproduction. That could still make it out and make its way out before the end of the year but honestly believe that this is what peacock Kes- and deals specifically with the fact. That peacock was so heavily. Reliant on the fact that they were GonNa have so much only content for their launch in July and they don't have that right now so they're limited with what else they have with the Olympic content. They would have had that content fill up and then they could have gradually released new new episodes in new shows over the course of the remainder of the year. And also probably had a couple of extra shows that they don't have at this point and now they're in a situation where they don't have that they don't have the Olympic content to help launch so they're relying on just a small small slate of shows that will. Hopefully you know some of these. I'm sure will be successful in their own way but it it does feel like this is kind of an apple. Tv plus situation where there's a slate it looks like. It could have some plus some pros on it but ultimately it's one of those things where you're still thinking to yourself. There's just not enough content here. Yeah there's next in no content here it definitely gun bit by the bug of bad timing especially with the Olympics moving to the next year in production hold so it's much things that really interest me or to be braved a world just because aldous. Huxley's novel Brave New World is just so nuts that I'm so curious how it's going to be. And then also the the comedy intelligence which is a workplace comedy set at the UK's kind of NSA equivalent to me there's going to be interesting and just just the lack of content. Wow It really stinks because I felt peacock had a good plan and they had if they could just they wanted to be with their competitors right now and okay you have the Olympics and then whatever content we do now and then they're going to get the rights to the office parks and REC NEXT YEAR. Some time and it's like if we just hold over until then but now it's kind of their sitting a lame duck status and they're really stinks for them so they can use this time to kind of be. Alpha slush Beta launch. And then. Maybe they're in a rebrand themselves when production ramps up then really kind of have like a two auto type thing going on you know some time later next year when things seem to be a little bit better. Overall Peacock was one of the one series. That wasn't necessarily excited bill. But the the more important on them the more that it's I was excited in. Its it stinks just for everyone and NBC. All right so with that said we have no other news and we had a bunch of smaller discussions related to some content and Kevin Meyer list leaving Disney. So that is going to wrap up this episode. Be sure to check out the show notes for all the latest trailers released from the past week. There is a good amount quitting a new trailer for Space Force which is show that. I'm probably looking most forward to in the next month. That's coming from Netflix. Steve Carell definitely looking forward to that project. So definitely check out those. In addition to that you can follow us on twitter and join our disgorge check on all the articles that we talk about here on the podcast and some that we don't. You can follow us on instagram for release announcements relates new episodes posting. And then you can leave us reviews wherever you are listening to this podcast. 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Better diversity in venture capital investing might mean putting it in the contract

Marketplace Tech with Molly Wood

06:28 min | 3 weeks ago

Better diversity in venture capital investing might mean putting it in the contract

"Hey, it's molly would hear one of the most uncomfortable things to talk about with your kids is money especially now. We've got you covered though with a new podcast for kids and their families million Brazilian for marketplace helping dollars make more sense subscribed wherever you get your pod tests. Bringing diversity into venture capital investing might mean you got to put it in the contract from American public media. This is marketplace tech I'm Ali would. This week, a group of venture capital firms announced that they're planning to make diversity a core part of their deals with startup founders. The ten firms committed to including new standard language in the contracts called term sheets that they make with startup founders. It's a diversity writer that says that the company and lead investor will make every attempt to include a member of an underrepresented group as a CO investor. It's not. Binding language but the idea is that it will create opportunity for underrepresented investors to participate in deals and also attract founders who prioritize a commitment to equity. The initiative was started by Alejandro Guerrero, a venture capitalist based in Los Angeles with the firm act one ventures I wanted funds to feel because, yes, this is important and everybody out here is talking about it and all the founders are trying to see more. That we're the ones signing up for it. We're actually going to be the ones that have the competitive advantage because founders are looking to work with individuals that are trying to do more. It doesn't have the teeth to see it is enforceable, but that wasn't the point. Right the point here is that all of us know what this is about all of us are making a commitment it's going to it's GonNa. Take some effort it's GonNa. Take a bit word particularly if you know maybe you didn't have the diverse network of potential investors to bring in but now it's reason to do that right it. It's a reason to go out and build more networks meet individuals that you know that you can invite and you'll get to know more, and then hopefully when you build that trust, you'll start seeing incredible new deal flow. I mean I guess I wonder why wouldn't affirm WANNA have diversity rider like this I can't speak to why they wouldn't want to do right. Every fund is different. The way that they're structured their make up their cash, their LP's I don't know. What will success look like I'm hopeful that yeah within. A few years year to that, we see this in the majority of venture funds, and hopefully we'll take it to further and say what you embed this in my term sheet. Yeah. Best case could you see a scenario where as this conversation becomes more prevalent? The push from founders right. The competition could incentivize firms to bring on more underrepresented partners. Yeah. Exactly. That's where I hope this is all GonNa go right like the matter what we do it's not enough right hire more people write more checks do the writer create officer programs, cohorts, all of it like not enough the gap is so wide right diversity is forever, and if we start thinking about it in that regard, then it won't become part of our. Normal behavior when we're out building networks when we're looking for companies when we're out doing deals, how we structure them, you know how advise our our founders to think about building their executive ranks their boards, all of it. Right. We'll give them off to a more equitable than just roll and that's the world that I wanna live in I'm an optimist and I'm hopeful that that's where we're going to see ourselves in and some in the coming years here. Alejandro Guerrero is the principal with the firm act. One ventures. And now for some related links as we mentioned in the interview, there are some notable absences from the diversity writer program big Silicon Valley names like sequoia Andriessen, Horowitz client of Perkins we asked all three if they had plans to join this totally non-binding voluntary inclusion of language and their term sheets with the goal of starting a conversation about diversity at all stages of the investing life cycle. Andriessen Horwitz pointed us to its cultural leadership fund and eighteen million dollars. So Fund made up of one hundred percent black limited partners whose primary investor is also black with one goal being to quote enable more. Young African. Americans to enter the technology industry. I should note that the LP's who've put money into the Cultural Leadership Fund are pretty much all celebrities, corporate executives and some athletes. So not the scrappy would be investors who guerrero says he's hoping we'll get a foot in the door with something like the diversity writer. And teepee insights piece from last month notes that the Cultural Leadership Fund has invested in sixty five companies and of those just three have at least one black founder and eleven have at least one female founder. To saying maybe more conversations wouldn't hurt. Cleaner and sequoia didn't get back to us in time for air. And here's what else we're watching in tech on Tiktok watch apparently, maybe you Walmart and Microsoft might team up to buy it and then Walmart would pivot Tiktok towards a more full on ECOMMERCE shopping experience. So creators and influencers could just. Sell you things which listen again privacy and data collecting are real concerns with Tiktok may be no more so than with facebook instagram. Google or Amazon, but considering the awesome and fun and diverse breadth of content on talk and the true love that people have for it. You ve kind of couldn't even engineer sadder fate. tiktok CEO Kevin Meyer who just took over a few months ago saw that Pale horse coming and promptly quit the announced the move Thursday Stephanie who produces marketplace? Tech. Alvarado our assistant producer Michael Lipkin our senior editor Becca Wineman, and Robin Edgar our engineers I'm Ali. Would that's marketplace tech. This is a PM.

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Uber Self-Driving Death Blame - DTH

Daily Tech Headlines

05:13 min | 10 months ago

Uber Self-Driving Death Blame - DTH

"These are the daily Tech Headlines for Wednesday November twentieth. Two thousand nine hundred. I'm Tom Merritt. Google assistant has a new feature called your your news update that can be played by telling the assistant to listen to the news. Google assembles the update from various Google partners. Based on what it knows about you including your location and among several dozen participating partners are Fox News the NBA Aljazeera wired and many more stories in. Your update can come from multiple of those sources with the source read out before the news item place updates generally start with big national and international stories followed by local news than more personalized bits. Like sports you can go into assistance. Settings to prioritize or mute various sources researchers from chuck marks coordination with Google and Samsung have disclosed vulnerability in Google Gulen Samsung's android camera APPs android systems that have not been updated since before July of this year checkmark discovered that in the pre patched version of the camera. Ah APPS that had storage permission for the SD card could access camera to take pictures and record video without permission. The vulnerability was closed used in July. Two thousand nineteen with a Google playstore update and patch was issued other vendors the US Department of Commerce confirmed to Reuters Wednesday at has begun issuing licenses licenses for some US companies to supply non-sensitive goods to while away the extension of these licences assists some US rural network operators facebook's ace books experimental APP folks called the N. p. e. team have released wail an APP. That lets you decorate photos with text and stickers a meam creator if you will it's free to use with no in-app purchases or subscriptions and the APP is only available in candidate. The NPA team is charged by facebook with rapidly. Developing APPS to experiment experiment with new ideas. Bill Gates back to energy company Healy. Jen have used computer vision software and automatic edge detection to direct a field of mirrors to use sunlight to create temperatures above one thousand degrees Celsius. That's about a quarter of the temperature of the surface of the sun. The solar heat could be used to make cement steel milk glass and other materials with no carbon emissions. The next step is to demonstrate the process at scale later on helium believes it may also be able to create hydrogen at scale Gail at hearings. Tuesday the US National Transportation Safety Board determined cause and responsibility for the death of a pedestrian. who was hit by an Uber? Autonomous Car safety driver Raphael Vasquez was found partially at fault for being distracted by her phone. Uber's Advanced Technologies Group. Received partial blame for inadequate safety procedures offers and ineffective monitoring vehicle operators Uber did not have a system to keep safety drivers from becoming complacent the victim. Elaine Hertzberg was found partially at fault for Having methamphetamines in her system which may have impaired judgment when crossing outside the crosswalk and the state of Arizona took partial blame for insufficient policies to regulate autonomous vehicles. The facebook announced it's eight developer conference will take place next year may fifth and sixth at the mcenery Convention Center in San Jose. California can sign up to get notified for win. Registration will open at the website. F eight DOT COM verge reports that the head of Disney's direct to consumer division Kevin Meyer Fire says difficulties with the Disney plus APP launch. Had to do with the way the company architect that the APP Meyer said that Bam Tech Aka Disney streaming services had never seen gene the high volume of streams even when hosting things like HBO IN MLB and did exposed limits to the architecture. Mayor says Disney will recode the APP within the next couple of weeks to fix issues affecting things like the continue watching feature the robot lawyer behind the do not pay parking ticket dispute service has a new service called old do not sign included in. Do not pay three dollars subscription. Do Not sign that you upload scan or link to a license agreement service then uses machine gene learning to highlight clauses. It thinks a user will want to know about and methods for opting out of data collection. It can even send letters on your behalf to take advantage of opt-outs do not China available in the US on the web and in the do not pay. IOS APP NEO in noticed apple has posted job listings for people to quote build build. THE NEXT GENERATION OF MEDIA APPS for Windows Apple maintains itunes. I cloud for windows. Both are fairly old and itunes has been broken up into separate TV. Music Zeke. And PODCAST APPS on Mac. Os IOS. The listing says universal windows platform experiences at plus which could mean apps for both windows. Ten and the xbox Apple Launched Apple Music for business plans to get licensed music to play in retail locations. Apple provide human curated playlist with recommendations matched to a stores whereas brand consumer versions of most music streaming services do not include the rights to play music in commercial locations. spotify also has a division to work with retail locations for more discussion of the news of the day. Subscribe to daily Tech News. Show DOT COM and remember to rate and review daily tech headlines. Wherever you get your podcasts? Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next time.

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Some people are making bread in quarantine. Others are making TikToks

Marketplace Tech with Molly Wood

04:33 min | 4 months ago

Some people are making bread in quarantine. Others are making TikToks

"The during this pandemic lots of people are learning how to make bread but many others are learning how to make tick talks from american public media. This is marketplace tech. I'm molly would. The short video platform tiktok was already a big hit before the pandemic but since so many people have been stuck at home since march a lot. More people are discovering it and even though tiktok is in the news for its new. Ceo kevin meyer. Who was poached from disney and for record labels who think the service should pay more to publishers and artists for using their songs and for actual calls to ban it in the us over its chinese ownership and security and privacy fears. Well people like marketplace own. Hey super alvarado are finding that in quarantine. It's just kind of fun. More than three hundred million people downloaded tiktok in the first quarter of this year. That's fifty percent more than last quarter and total two billion downloads. Laura pearson a student at usc who happens to be my roommate started hearing huge buzz about tiktok ride before her spring break. Her friends were sending her lots of links sketches and dance videos. So she downloaded the out thinking. Yeah nice easy way to kill some quarantine time. It's like this cute little app. You can record videos. She started to spend more and more time on tiktok when she wasn't zooming into her classes soon enough. She started producing. She recruited arlene. Pereira are other roommate. She's of course also home from her teaching job at el camino college here in southern california. They chose zico's any song. So we spent the whole night trying to figure out how to do the dance and have a certain level of swag arse it out of the way in the living room wall. My roommate's discovered how much time it takes to perfect tiktok dance and that just gave me a whole new perspective on tiktok that you see these super silly videos but boy is it quite the production darlene. Then we all decided well. Let's do this. We invested in a really nice phone Tripod with a Cute Little Bluetooth control on Amazon. You can even find bundles. Called Tiktok kits including a ring light tripod and some other fancy stuff with prices ranging from forty five sixty and even up to ninety bucks. My first tries to sketches not amazing but still funny right now. Almost two thirds of tiktok users are under the age of thirty four. It's especially popular with eight hundred. Twenty four year olds. Yup that's us. Talent agents are getting in on the action managing famous tiktok trying to get work in Hollywood and connecting social media. Influencers already making big money. Laura is showing the TIKTOK universe for crocheting wizardry and as for our lean. She has a few dance. Talks and droughts including one two the song wannabe by the spice girls and for me keeping my day job for now that was marketplace assistant producer. Hey Sues Alvarado and Roommates. Now that I think of it. I don't Crochet. But I do knit. So maybe I also a future tiktok wannabe and for the first time ever tiktok will be virtual attendee of the new fronts events later in June where it hopes to attract digital and TV advertisers to the platform and now for some related links. We've got into a piece about Ted talks new. Ceo All the work. He has ahead of him. And I'll tell you what. I know that lawmakers have their concerns tiktok and its owner by dance but it is GonNa be real difficult to pry this APP from the hands of the youth of America. Emarketer reports that Tiktok added twelve million unique. Us USERS in March and this is crazy. People spent an average of eight hours on the APP in that month compared to an average of five hours on instagram. Oh there's a link to that story from to filter on our website marketplace tech dot org. I'm just saying maybe TIKTOK. And be the peacemaker in us. China relations. I'm Ali would and that's marketplace tech. This is a PM.

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019: The Execs Behind Disney+ and HBO Max

The Streaming Wars

37:48 min | 10 months ago

019: The Execs Behind Disney+ and HBO Max

"You're listening to the Stream was the podcast that discusses all the latest happenings regarding your favorite streaming services. Find out which Savvas is winning the war this time around. Aw walking lease episode of the Stream wars this Cimarron. We're doing a little bit different while twenty is joining me. We're GONNA be talking about a couple of specifically topic that has popped up for the past week One that's If you listen to last week's episode on Tuesday Newsday that we released or on Wednesday when you heard it. If you listen to that episode. We talked about how we're GONNA talk about John Stinky interview. Well it turns out. There was another interview that happened. It is part of the same events that we also WanNa talk about an interview with Kevin Meyer from Disney plus. He's an executive that kind of the the the face of the executives behind Hind Disney pluses. A service so there was so we're going to talk about those two interviews. We're not talking about news this time around. Obviously we prerecorded this to release while we are actually taking the week off because we we want to discuss the city at a higher level than what we have been having time for so so basically t to give you a little bit backstory behind what this event was there is. If you're familiar with the Website Fox or if you've ever heard of vox media they have a subsection of their cy called recode and on their actual citation talks about how this section of their website talks about digital aspects. And how how they're changing the world and US and they had an event where they had pre much big name people from the world of of Tech and the digital side of things to discuss what their companies are doing for what what what their companies are doing digitally to change the world around us and US so there's a number of different ones there. was you know facebook had someone. They're talking about stuff. They had people from other companies but the ones that are worth mentioning for US specifically here is that they had the CEO of one media. John Stinky there and he he was asked the number of questions. A lot of the questions dealt with what actually was talking about at For the HBO. Mac's announcement that was just a couple of weeks back. The the entire gist of the conversation was all about. HBO Maxon what they're expecting and what they're doing and kind of clarifying some of the things that were potentially unclear at the the point of the announcement a couple of weeks back the other one was Kevin Meyer who says behind his plus and while they're aspect is way their entire the conversation about Disney pluses completely different. They're not talking about what he's coming. They're talking about well. It just launched. So so what can we do. You know what a what we let's talk about. How the launch wins? What we're expecting what what to expect in the future for the service? What changes have you or what what issue who says has risen from the launch? Things like that so completely two different ends of the spectrum because one is already out one is not and kind of getting these executives perspective of their respective respected services. So we're just start with the John Stinky one. Because that one was there was the first interview that had popped up but there was. There was the big headline that came out of the John. Stinky interview is not so much that they're looking to replace net flicks but that they are looking to become the next cable bundle. Meaning they'd already talked about this at the H.. Max Investor Event they. They had a couple of weeks back about how did every intention of trying to pair. HBO Now with their current. At and T. TV now we talked about. At and T. TV now the other live streaming television services Just last week but the intent is that. At and T. TV now is a replacement for cable television. which as as we know? At and T. and direct TV which is all part of the spray eighteen Uber's and direct TV. Those are services that continue to lose subscribers in in a a very fast rate. So they're really going to be trying to push this new bundle conveniently it's also interesting because eight thousand nine hundred now just raised. Their prices is to sixty four nine thousand nine and I believe this interview took place before the price increase went into effect. So there wasn't a really discussion about that but it became almost whilst one of the Roy became one of the most expensive live streaming TV services are available and while there's talk about the other services out there also raising the prices who's it was reason their price next month it begs the question of. How are they really going to push this service? If it's one of the more expensive ones and their intent is to use it as a replacement for cable services as a company if the intent was to also bundle it with. Hbo Max so my my question. I WanNa believe with you because I know you watch the interview. What do you think I mean it definitely feels like HBO? Max is an add on service to. At and T. TV now. Wow and that's what they're intending on doing and they'll intend on offering other add on services to at and T. TV now but it feels like they're basically creating what I would like to classify as the very Hulu based system. They're already got the live. TV But if they start having these other services that you can tack back onto it like Hbo Max. And that's a huge focus. It gives you a reason to subscribe to them rather than Hulu which is obviously a direct competitor when it comes to Disney and Warner brothers. So where do you. Where do you see this going? Because it doesn't feel especially based off of this interview it doesn't feel like their focus is rolling out a streaming services like netflix which we've talked about before Privately and on the podcast about how it definitely feels like their international rollout is not a priority which everyone would expected to be based off of what we've seen from the growth for Netflix. The growth that Disney plans to have with rolling their stuff very very quickly in the near future for Disney plus. It feels to me at least that the brand has a whole could be potentially diluted in order to push this streaming TV service. At least. That's what I got out of the interview. So what did you get. My take is a very interesting time. This is the Disney portraits for about one to two weeks out in terms of you know being a mature service and Apple. TV It's been out since the beginning of the month and it's about three weeks by now and it's taking those services. Those are very much in terms teams of modeling after Amazon. In in Disney. I'm sorry in flex percent in terms of the model t H. He was like. It's playing a weird game. I kind of do agree with you. You in the fact of its kind of looking more to just being bundle per se. I'm a conglomeration conglomeration of of different things. But it but it also is. It's hard to categorize White Loyd. Hbo Max is trying to be because it's still part of the portfolio in one thousand. Nine T has its cable services so you have eighteen now you have. Hbo Oh you HBO go. Yeah all these different painters. We keep repeating over and over again. It's just been hard for me to distill. Can what is his vision for all this different stuff. I think the WHO model is pretty interesting and so if if people don't know who has it's based off a thin it's also has the ability to plug in in essentially added different channels quote approach to these other services stars. Hbo and stuff like that. I think that's the most creative approach to go because what's really more important is it's the platform right and it's not the content adversary. Netflix is the content in the platform. More essentially phenomena synonymous. They're they're the one in the same Disney plus same thing. WHO's a little bit different because it it is crater but it also has the ability to leverage other partners into its fold nets what? HBO IS TRYING TO BE IN. My opinion is to to be so flexible. You can get the TV if you want it but if you don't that's fine if you want Hbo Max Stuff. That's fine. That's great if you want to get another partner channel like that's great That to me seems seems like what. Hbo Max is trying to be kind of honestly makes more sense for H. B. O. Surf away to eighteen. Wermeer trying to do there has been some questions of wall wondering he doesn't bring back some of its shows. That's been licensed out to you because as we've talked about multiple episodes that one likes to their content for other studios Free three the TV television project projects were projects right. So they're not like bringing all that stuff inside in in house they're letting others to do things and they're gonNA do the ears as well and licensing AGREEMENTS MCLEAN LA in that kind of is reflected into its visits. Hbo Max is trying to do as well as basically here's our stuff then from there you can add on you can leverage different parts and stuff that you want together and their ego different. I don't think it's a bad strategy. I think it can work. It's just unfortunate. It's just a bunch of moving parts of trying to get stuff done because not only do you have to you. Organiz with outside partners it's like. At and T.. In order media. They still have to coordinate with them themselves in fortunately. At's IT can media. Strategy is still a little little bit scattered per se my opinions just like okay like we wanna go down this direction. We want to essentially replace the subscribers. We lost fairly direct. TV In cable subscriptions we want to replace the revenue was something else in their hails going to streaming. And that's fine but it seems like it. Things are still a bit a little lost and it fragmented so I go uh-huh. HBO's trying to do. I do agree with you in terms of the plugin system partner system. HBO is still a little bit in my opinion further away from the goal of where they want being what they WANNA do. But I think it's a it's definitely different. Not Bad different just different. The thing for me is the quote that stood out from this interview which will have the interview from for for this. We'll have this interview in the show notes. The thing that stood out to me is that he said we are currently the FR Consumers are in the process of re bundling. They're not they're not getting Telephone Internet and cable maybe just getting interact. And you know. They're basically cutting the cable cord and then there's people who are. Not You know they just going wireless listener just using their wireless carrier obviously. At and T.. Has the advantage of being not only a wireless carrier but also a carrier for in home cable telephone own and Internet for a good majority of the country and or at least a possibility of of a provider for a lot of the homes in America. And I think to me while consumers are unbundling his reference was well people are GonNa start re bundling things. They're going to start doing and I don't disagree. We've talked about this before about how you know if you added up Disney plus and you add. Hbo Max and You had Hulu and you had apple TV. Plus you add all all these together. You're still creating your own personal bundle based off the continent you want to see. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. But it can be frustrating frustrating in the sense of you know you have to go to all these different services to try to find something and they he. Hbo Max Has Gone on about how they're they're going to be doing a lot of human content curation which I don't I mean like it'll definitely be better than the algorithms. It's a Netflix is used while they've gotten better over the years. There's been issues without sexy but that's right. It's not it's not like it's the to me. There's no advantage manage to that. There's like it's it's such a small advantage that it means nothing. I personally do not want somebody else telling me what to watch. I don't want to do you know the in the investor meeting. They showed a clip where you can click on a celebrity and the celebrity would suggest something for you to watch. That's not something that I'm going to use. Imagine imagine the majority of the grant. HBO Subscriber Base. which is is is skewed older rather than younger is not going to use a feature like that so to me? It's not a future. That's really going to sell them. But they keep talking about it and it's like they're trying to aim that specific aspect towards a younger audience which is fine but I just I mean like obviously there are plenty of people that they are convinced to watch something because somebody else says to watching that tends to be the a younger generations. The problem is that that can't be the only focus on the differential between this service somewhere else I've been watching some discussions and and the simpsons podcast about how the idea of Hbo Amax in some ways. I think we said this even ourselves back on the current state of HBO Max. They're slightly diluting. What each has by having this other content while they will say we are not in the? We're not trying to do anything different than what. Hbo Hbo has always done. We're just trying to create more content at the scene quality level that you've always got. That's why they're warranty th- that's why. They claim that the prices prices warranted is. Because you're still going to be getting this quality content. The problem is that by having this other content that falls in in line with other genres and things like that that typically does not screen quality. You're going to have some problems. I mean there's a couple of different reality shows that have been announced all Docu series. HBO's already doing Hbo Reproduces Comedies and Dramas and a variety of other content some of the content content. That there's there's they're creating if it's not on par with what each is currently doing should be some major major problems with it just diluting the brand that is HBO. Theo which could ultimately hurt them in the larger scheme of things because HBO. Max Really doesn't take off then you could run into the problem of the Sir. You know it hurting the brand that is just just. HBO and subscribers while the brand doesn't the brand the singular brand of HBO isn't what it used to be because this other content is out there that's also associated with the name and I don't necessarily want that to happen because like I've said before I watch a lot of content on. HBO and I appreciate the content on HBO. It just comes down to. It is what they're doing beneficial. If you know we talked about the name and I said I'm not sure why they chose to go with. Hbo Except for the fact that name demands quality. That's what has always been but if it does if it strays from quality because the intent is just to create extra content that people are going to be interesting. I don't know that that's going to be beneficial. I said any other interviews an interview with Kevin Meyer. The executive who's kind of the front man for each Disney plus this. This was a completely different area of discussion because they've already launched but one of the things that came up in the the conversation was that specifically asked like but what happened on day one. Why was there issues? And there's been a lot of conspiracies that other companies Amazon web services which deals with Disney plus and or supports parts Disney position. Say like there was rumors that maybe Amazon was trying to mess with Disney. So let's not successful because they already have prime video and that can be further from the truth. Basically Disney in Kim to say listen the APP that we created the architecture behind it wasn't exactly great and we learned that the hard way by having a lot of issues. He's he said that they're already in the process of trying to work out in that they're planning on having a massive update for the service within the next two weeks and when that happens it should resolve a lot of the problems that people have been having. I applaud them for you. Know going to the lengths of trying to get that update out as soon as possible. Obviously absence Absence General are always going to have bugs and they always gotta get worked out. They attempted to have a lot of that stuff. Worked out by having the Beta launch. They had another lund's they probably just didn't have have the amount of traffic that they will. They probably had the amount of traffic the anticipated but didn't actually because the traffic was so much higher than what they predicted. Then there was there was issues so there was that the other only other thing to pull out of the interview review that I thought was interesting. was they specifically said that you know Disney is a company that doesn't really they don't have so Tobacco a little bit so net flicks. A lot of what they produce is based off of what people absorbed what they watch how much how often they watched the content that they watch. There's a reason why Adam Sandler has so many movies available on Netflix. itunes because people will watch that content on Netflix. That's why they keep producing juicing. This stuff it's why certain series cancelled before they feel like sometimes before you feel like they were ever given the chance because people just are not watching part of that has to do with the fact that maybe it wasn't market. Well part of it has to do with. Maybe it's just not something that audiences are connecting with. But they have a lot of data that they use is to judge what they actually should make. Hbo Max they've been talking about one of the things we're talking about over and over again in the investor meeting this that eighteen t owns a company called Zander. which is a data is a data company? They basically it's a personal data company that that minds their services his to get information to sell anonymously like it's not data personally for you and individual like facebook sometimes accused of but not content. That is our data that is specifically anonymous to give it to advertisers and say this type of people who are watching the show. This is the time they they have this company and they were talking about how. Hbo Max when it launches it will be working hand in hand with Zander to create data so that they can go find other content content to get other production companies to create you know to continue to create content that people are actually enjoying and appreciating Disney however doesn't have they don't have a data company and specifically when asked about how they're going to use their data from just the usage rates of Disney plus. They were asked. Just how are you going to. What are you going to do with that data as far as how you create content and they specifically said we have absolutely no we probably will not happy following the data as much as you would think we are Disney and because we were Disney we sometimes believe a program can be successful regardless of what the data assets on the did however say that they are going to be creating more adult content which goes hand in hand with the complaint that we had last week in our episode where we talked about how it just doesn't doesn't feel like there's a ton of content that's more adult oriented or just meant for adults not just family and children content so they did say that they're going to do that? I don't know what that means means because let's be honest. The entire service is a very family friendly service. The content that they create is still going to be in some way acceptable for children. Read or to due to you know to watch but just be able to also appeal more towards adults. I'm thinking on the lines of the simpsons or something like that where they create content content. That is more focused on the adult audience but can still be watched by children without being too Raunchy or to adult oriented. But it's interesting because basically said we've been were Disney. We've been doing this for as long as we have. Were creating shows basis of what we believe will be successful and the only thing that I have to the only comment I have in regards to that is Disney. Outside of their recent success with the marvel films the Star Wars films there live action remakes and some just slightly other things they have not had exactly the best track record when it it comes to creating content or acknowledging. What's really successful they have created? TV shows for the variety of Disney channel's or ABC has created shows shows that don't tend to take off very well. There's a lot of shows that don't make it past one or two seasons or they cancel it and there is a fan base. Yes but it's just not enough for them to keep doing it. But then there's other aspects. Were like if you look at their box office. They're movies that they've released through theater theatrical theatrical releases over the past ten years. They've had their fair share of flops. A lot of the ones that are super successful fall within one of those categories. I already mentioned flops. Tend to be stuff. That's outside of that. You look at a movie like wrinkle in time which released last year. Movie didn't do very well at all. They assumed it would and they went about making the movie and and marketed very well. They didn't do a bad job. Marketing or anything like that but it didn't end up doing very well in the box office and you have to kind of wonder obviously you. They have become a very very much. It driven company as far as what they create a lot of the focus on the content. That's coming to Disney plus is IP driven. She she had to wonder to yourself. Is this idea that Disney knows exactly what their customers want is this completely true or is is is there some fallacy in the idea of what they believe is quality content or content. That people actually enjoy. Yeah actually have a couple of thoughts on this whole tired Disney interview. I guess we'll start with the last I about this using data and his knees explanation of we know we kind of what's going on. This reminds me exports guy in about the last decade. There's been a big push to use like analytics in sports. The most I guess Popular Example of this is the movie moneyball has brandon pendant anyway. He uses statistics to help this guy stats to essentially help with his baseball team. In in for me. I'm kind of getting this right now. Between a sports and using should we use analytics to drive the team or should we not In basketball the biggest one that does this is Houston Rockets analytically. It says that you know you should take more a three point shots in. It's going to be better overall for game plan. Threes and layups shoes. Find if you can hit threes. You know. Sometimes it's hard to shoot a ball twenty-something view away a tiny hole in and it's fine if you look at it they've always had issues getting far into the NBA playoffs and stuff like that voice had breakdowns and stuff Weird issues the put what. I'm trying to say it's it's we're in the age and I work in this business of using using data to make decisions and software. It's called data driven development. You know using data to drive your business but it's one hard to collect data and then you'd hire people to actually do something with it and when you've been traditional company when I say traditional since it terms of Hollywood as a very untruth company They came on the scene and when they made the content they don't release until recently didn't release really their their stuff theaters. It was all devices. Now how do we get people to watch on devices. Not really like a focus on like winning awards and stuff like that but Disney is very much from the old era of movie and TV development in with that it's probably still got some hangover of older ideas of pain like we. We have this whole content team and we can survey and we could pick what the users are GonNa want but just fine but you know an admin advent having more data than we know what to do with. It's prominent the best thing to do right now. You know if you have affirmation you should use it however I think we should be so you know solely devoted to data but that's a different discussion Russian so hearing that Disney take like you know. Hey we're not going to do someday. It's like hey we're not going to be a data. It seems like it seems like hey. We're not going to be data driven company. We're still going to rely on our instincts in our Acumen to really usher and pushed Disney into the future. Well that's too bad. Yeah because the streaming people watch streaming streaming content is different from the traditional content. So like although some of those same rules do apply from the traditional old school way to the streaming way. There is a lot of similarities. There's also eh dissimilarities in the people in audience in Howell. What time of night do people watch this stuff you know? WHAT DO PEOPLE WANNA watch in? It's very important and hearing that Disney has has seemingly like it's not gonNa take that too serious is disheartening. Because you know when when when you're a new player like you need all the help that you can get and hearing Disney say like hey we're gonna not even collected. Oh not even gonNA make a team. We're not gonNA even entertain these ideas. That's a little scary because it's like hey like at the end of the day you might have to agree with their recommendation Asian. But it's better to have that data just in case it's better to have that opinion did not have opinion all and so hearing Disney's take on this little disconcerting because it's all right like it just seems you're trusting in yourself too much even though you're a newcomer myspace and there's other people who've done it for a very long time. been very successful by being data driven company. Did you have any thoughts up before I go on a different thing about Disney. I mean like I I agree. I mean the data a lot of times will point you in the direction. We need to go but I also feel like this stuff that super successful Disney is just going to point to more and more stuff more star wars stuff more live action remakes and that could be problematic to for just creating different and unique content. We've talked about this before. About how original content or original ideas is something. That doesn't really seem to be see that big of a focus especially currently dizziness of this. It's always been like that by a lot of what Disney produces is based off of other things of all their animated classics are based off of books or old fairy tales. The now we're currently seeing this wave of live action remakes of their of this exact films. We're seeing you know. Marvel revel in Star Wars stuffing's obviously starrewards films are was original thought but now everything is creating is diving from the earth going back to the original well of what. The stallworth franchise was prior to them. Owning moral derives a lot of their stuff from the comics so like I want to see original content. That's not to say you can't have something. That's you know. Based off of a book or comic book or anything like that or an existing media that existed prior to them obtaining it and you know before they purchased the Ip but it really does come down to like. They're not really creating a whole lot of original ideas and that's the that's the biggest problem like if that's how their content and their content with making king content like that then that's just they will be but if they don't create some sort of original content and I'm really hoping that maybe them being involved with the Fox side of things we'll see maybe aspects still happen. I'm worried of course because Twentieth Century Twenty First Century Fox was was merged into Disney among concern that companies companies like Fox searchlight's that produce a lot of original ideas really quality. Movies might not be releasing as much because Disney has a very very robust release. We schedule Theatrically also Yasser Twenty First Century Fox which can release other things. But it'll be interesting to see how much they actually are allowed to release. They just shifted up a lot of the release schedule for the past year show. There was a movie The kingsman a Prequel to the kingsman series was supposed post. Come on February. That just had a huge marketing. Push your comecon back in October. And they just shifted the movie release date from February all the way to September of next year so I wonder if that stuff is gonNA take a back seat to the other stuff that they already know. His super-popular super is going to gain them a lot more money which is great but then you hear on the other side of it and that specifically typically HBO. Max For Warner Brothers as a company has always been very creative driven. The people behind the camera the ones who are driving these projects and they tend to you give them a little bit more support with their ideas. It's one of the reasons why we have a directors like Clint Eastwood who keeps producing content for the same studio studio over and over again. There's other directors who they just keep putting movies out through the same company because they've they've got these relationships and you don't really see that at the Disney In the in the most obvious evidence of that is you look at a guy like J.J. Abrams who was basically the guy who ushered in and the new version of star wars ended up coming back to do another stores film but then took his entire production company elsewhere because he was looking for more creative freedom freedom. And that's not something you typically hear about when you're at Disney. That's all I have to say about your Jj. When he took strawberries he already had a contract with paramount? So I use our. Let's sure he's used a weird case to begin with which spreads the suit at the point so going back to the tech things about Disney. This whole rumor that Amazon was trying to Sink Disney is the stupidest thing ever and let me tell you why first off yes prime makes a lot of money but we don't know is how people get prime prime video. I I think that a lot of people have prime for shipping. And I think a lot of people with that prime membership watch prime video. I don't I don't know the numbers on how many people get prime just for prime video media. You know what I mean but that number is going to be less than what. AWS makes a year. Amazon web services is to be its own huge business very successful business that Frankly if we're spinoff business could off the baggage of Amazon proper. I would probably investor them just that the power like one third of the Internet are very huge and so it's actually in Amazon's Amazon's best interest for Disney to succeed wildly succeed. And here's why every this is going to this process of how we watch videos. I'M GONNA detail that in the future episodes but the more that people use Disney plus signs up for it in streams content the more that to spend the mob when to use them in Bain with stuff like with that like running a streaming services very expensive cloud cloud computing is expensive. It can get very expensive very quickly. Because you urging things per second of mainly Per Second of compute you time and storage by the gigabytes or the terabytes like this as a very quickly. If there's no downtime right and Disney plus service I means that Disney is not gonNa really be eh using Amazon services because of just random screw ups and Amazon's GonNa make money so Ramos on it doesn't matter that Disney or editor because it ended the date. They still went if if more people use Disney plus that means the more service that they're they're gonNA have to rent from Amazon Amazon's GonNa get a fatter check from Disney and so it doesn't make sense this whole idea of sabotage because frankly if they sabotage Disney. Plus it's going to really savage themselves and that's dumb no conspiracy theories just stupid conspiracy theory. Sometimes it doesn't make sense like it's an the Amazon best interest to help Disney in in this text base so it was nice to hear the Disney executive basically agree with my my sister on the service of of how world net they were not scared. Thank Disney personally. People like their their APP was not prepared for for the for the Volume Anaconda. Call that just by Minas is what I've seen the atmosphere some of the plugs and things that are hearing it gets hard to gauge. How unpopular the how many people are gonNA use it like you could testing locally on your machine works but testing okay? What happens when you get ten million people use? It seemed time. It's very hard to simulate. If you could simulate at all Komo News with the bucks because they realized okay like yeah. This stuff's hard especially if he not used to it. It's actually interesting when you hear that statement by the Disney executive like. Hey Ah we've messed up in our in our self development of making this thing the skill it's run me. I think it was in the stinky interview he talked about how Warner brothers are HBO. They've been doing this for years. That game of thrones like yuccas thrones especially in later seasons like you know every Sunday night can six. How many people have tuned in on two brothers to you? Watch the confirms episode. So they've gone actually good at simulating. Okay simultaneous connections concurrent downloads concurrent streams and stuff. Like that like. They've kind of at least the other foot into this idea scale and they have consultants stuff to actually a couple of them in the space like they're used to it. I don't know if we talked about this but we saw an article. Think either you are Sharikov article about how one brothers used to have Bam tech as their backing of the streaming service Which powers Disney right now and they just for their own service their own back and they learned the hard way of how to skill? HBO and how to scale. Game of thrones and all that stuff and so it's just it's just a parody between you know. Hbo Hbo Than Disney and their struggles in textual goes and stuff like that and just kind of makes me laugh. Because it's I call it like I mean I hate to be to you know chip on my shoulder but it's like yeah that totally only makes sense of everything and how Disney just plan correctly and it's hard and I don't think people should give Disney crap about because you don't understand how complicated something is going to be like it. It's it's Hor to plant in mass and scale you know it's easy for like one person. Okay like here's it's going to be uses the Public Library when you're scaling up to millions and millions of current connections it's hard to figure out consume. Yeah overall is pretty great that at the Disney executive just basically admitted like hey like we we underestimated we screwed up. That was pretty good on his part. Because I feel like the more honest you are gonna be with customers to understand like competing like hey like all right. Didn't he doesn't really know if they're doing here. This is the first take. Okay we can be we. Can we can show them grazing versus like you know. It's not our fault Babol. I think people respect humility. I think people respect when you apologize of feeling I think customers recognized that. I don't think that You know lose a lot of subscribers over these tech mishaps during its first week or month and then lose trevor. It's going to be over like content based issues not take issues because consumers are more giving. I think some people lead on. It's nice to see a company taking a acknowledging there there's issues because the the biggest thing is when a company doesn't knowledge that there's issues or that shows why it happened says what had happened. You tend to have people get upset just because they're not because they don't know so they don't understand or you have these situations where you they start pointing the blame at certain certain places. And of course the diehard Disney fans are going to be like well it can't be Disney's these fall because it's Disney. We Love Disney. It's gotta be somebody else so they'll look to figure out who they can point the finger at. That's such kind of advise though. That's a major kind advisor at are there. The limits people like. Well I believe this can't happen so it's not going to happen dumb. Yeah and but the reality of it is stuff like that happens all the time and it's it's happens happens in every aspect of anything that the news covers. Let's just put it that way but yeah I mean it's nice to see that they took. They acknowledged the fact that cashews. They're working on it. It's also nice to see that they're analogy that they they're going to have to do better. Because the demand is is way higher than they anticipated for. Something like this when you tout out. Hey we had ten million subscribers day one those are huge numbers but you know if they have a massive drop off by the time they have their next quarterly results. That's not going to be real great thing for them especially for their stock and things like that so they've got to you gotta keep those subscribers and if anything they've got to keep them and grow that number because it's not gonNa be good good thing for them. If by the time they they released quarterly earnings their lower. Or and it's just like well everybody sign up initially but then they realized that there wasn't as much content so I'm glad that they've acknowledged that there's issues with tech. Hopefully they'll acknowledge that there's issues with content very very near in the future is actually a museum because last week when we were talking about the issues with the content literally early the next day they went and posted. Hey there's another series coming on in December which was called pick of the litter and there was not a again not as not not a show that I'm GONNA be interested in watching but at least acknowledges the fact that they have more content than that exists that they haven't talked about because that's that's a show that wasn't even on the radar of shows that had already been announced that were coming so there is a potential that they have something else to replace. You know to take the slot that meant Laurean has not necessarily as marquee but something that is definitely going to you know so. It's not just there. There's another one less show. That's releasing have something else. They just haven't revealed exactly what it's going to be at this point. So that's nice to see as well with that being said that is gonNA wrap it up for this shorter episode discussing the To interview or Saas discussing basically Kevin Meyer from Disney plus in John Stinky from. 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The Small Town Murders /// Part 1 /// 249

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The Small Town Murders /// Part 1 /// 249

"Finally, it's back. The wait is over in two thousand fifteen net flicks making a murder introduced the world to Steven Avery and his nephew, Brendan dasy to Wisconsin man whose trials and convictions of a brutal murder lit up the world. The convictions, however, were just the beginning. The next chapter of making a murderer filmmakers, lore Ricciardi, MR demoss explore crucial new evidence and take an in-depth. Look at the post conviction, watch making a murderer part two on October nineteenth, only on Netflix. Welcome to true crime garage wherever you are, whatever you are doing. Thanks for listening. I'm your host. Nick in with me as always is a man who does know Kevin McAllister is he is the captain and keep the change filthy animal. It's good to be seen as good to see you. Thanks for listening. Thanks for telling friends. This week, we are drinking brick, kiln, bourbon barrel aged by the fabulous folks, Jackie O's brewery, grad grade. 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These are gorgeous sceneries and landscapes. But as we all know, evil can lurk anywhere even in the most beautiful of living spaces. Evil can be waiting for you in the caves or stalking you on the hills. Often, evil is even closer to home than any of us would dare to believe. There was much excitement for the people of Logan back in the fall of eighty two on October. Second, Logan, hosted their annual fall festival of bands, a gathering of some of a high owes best high school marching bands, and later that month trick or treat beggars night and Halloween. Greg Schultz described the time saying when I grew up, we had the run of the town because it was a small town. We take off in the morning, BA gone all day and come back home at night. When the street lights came on, you went home. Everyone kept an eye on us. The youth of nineteen eighty-two Logano high O-share the same sentiment. They had never heard of horrific murders before other than from the fictional slasher films of their day. But that all changed in early October. When the drains killers from the movie seemingly jumped off of the movie theater screens and into the hills of Logan causing the public to panic and wonder where the murders of a smart well liked young couple, an isolated incident, or was it a sign of what was to come this week? We discussed the murders that terrified community and left more victims. Than we will ever know. Margaret and net Cooper later in life. She would go by the beautiful name of a net and that was born June eleventh nineteen sixty four Zeena, Ohio. And that was a pretty blonde many referred to her as a local beauty. Other said she had a bit of a troubled pass after high school. She was off to Hocking college and eighteen year old student full of life and dreams, and as of October nineteen eighty two. And that was in a year long relationship with nineteen year old. Todd Schultz, Todd from Nelson Ville. Hi. Oh, he was born just less than a year before net and their relationship was pretty serious. What started off as a courtship, based off of mostly physical attraction had blossomed into a possible wedding engagement. Todd's mother said the two had not made it official, but they were certainly talking about it. Now. Todd was a good kid with the Grayson's of humor, and everybody said that he loved children. After high school, he went to vocational school and studied graphic design. It was well known that Todd was quite the photographer. He hoped to find a career where he could get into something where he could take pictures and write articles. Todd was nineteen years old and a volunteer firefighter. There are typical teenage couple from a typical small town. Now leading up to Tober nineteen eighty-two net was living with Todd and his family at Todd's parents house. She shared a room, Todd sister, Kendra an came from what some if not, most locals referred to as a strange family, and that's family was for the most part considered to be outsiders to the people and the community of Logan. And anyone from Logan will tell you that still to this very day that most people born and raised in Logan, don't much care for transplants or outsiders and that Scholtz her stepfather. Dale Johnson was very much considered to be an. Outsider by the locals of Logan. Several years before the fall of eighty two Dale Johnson and his wife. Sarah left their previous marriages and together they moved from Zena Ohio to be together and race, heirs to doctors, Michelle, and net question for you. So you're saying that people from Logan don't like outsiders, right? But a lot of people from Logan drive to clump his for work. Right. Okay. Dale and Sarah purchase. Beautiful fifty three acre farm situated on an unpaved road just about ten miles from downtown Logan. It was known to others in the community that Dale and Sarah occasionally embraced a clothing optional lifestyle on their large secluded. Property free Bolland. Dale was a country boy, and he loved being outdoors. So so much so that when the four of them moved to the farm, he his new wife and two stepdaughters. They actually lived in tents for a while. This was to enjoy the land and to hold them over and until their trailer arrived for the property. Once the trailer arrived, they packed up their tents and moved in. They built a barn and used it to house horses, and the horses could often be seen running and drinking from a stream running through the property. But there was a nasty, rumor going around Logan, one that many wished not to discuss, but obviously they did the rumor was that Dale Johnson was molesting his stepdaughter net and it was widely believed. The net was now staying with her boyfriend and the Scholtz family because the rumored accusation might just be true Monday evening, October fourteenth nineteen year old, Todd Scholtz in his eighteen year old girlfriend. Net Cooper left Todd's parents house. They didn't tell anyone where they were going, which was a little out of character. But what was eve. Even more out of character. The two usually very reliable young adults did not return that night to Scholtz home the next morning, Tuesday, October. Fifth, the two still had not returned and Todd's mother. Sandra had a bad feeling. A mother's intuition was telling her something bad had happened, and the feeling was getting worse than stronger as the morning dragged on stressed to her limit. She broke down picked up the phone and called a nets mother, Sarah. She wanted to know if an and perhaps Todd had gone to a nets house the night before or at the very least that morning, did they check the tents there? There were no tense at this time. You don't know that for sure a nets. Mother said, no, she had not seen either of them, but she was not going to let Todd's mom off the hook. She wanted to know why net was living at the Scholtz house and Santa responded abruptly Lau. Loudly because Dale can't keep his hands off of her. And that was pretty much the end of this conversation. Neither one of them happy and both worried about the young couple shortly after the police and local authorities were notified and soon to they would join in the search for Todd and Annette days past in there was still no sign of either of them. Now, no one had seen them nor had either of them called home or showed up to work or school during this time, either family members of the two founded incredibly strange in disconcerting. The couple very rarely went anywhere most of the time. They would just go out for a walk. So defined odd that nets. Parents don't even know why she's not staying there. Not neces-. I mean, I do find it odd, but not at home as I mean, yeah, I do find it a little odd, but not one hundred percent. I mean, thinking back when I was eighteen I didn't. You know, sometimes they didn't come home for a couple of days. I think this is a situation where she probably went over to her boyfriend's houses like they were very much in love and she stayed the night one night. It turned into a couple nights. Next thing. You know, she's there for weeks or maybe even a month, and it sounds to me like her mother didn't wanna rock the boat too much, and it wasn't until she believed that something was wrong that her daughter was missing and her boyfriend was missing as well that she was kind of pushed her limit and decided, hey, yeah, but it wasn't like, hey, I'm just going to stay over at your house. 'cause I like it here better than mine. There was a reason why they're leading her stay there. Yeah. And obviously Todd's parents or at least his mother seemed to believe that. A net stepfather Dale was doing something wrong. I mean, that was that was the statement that was made to the newspapers. And this was a statement that Sarah a nets own mother made to the newspapers said this is a conversation that me and Todd's mother had Sandra was Todd's mother's name, and this is a conversation that we had in this is how it went down. She told the papers that Sanders said that day'll can't keep her hands his hands off of a net, right? But what's not clear as did she have a conversation with the net about that? Or is this just I mean from the rumors town that we don't know what I mean like, well, she says she likes it better over here. We don't mind her stay in here because of these rumors or did she have a conversation with the net about this? Right. And I also wonder too, like. If if Todd's parents really believed that something terrible was going on that had was being molested or whatever bright, it seems to me like they may have done more than just housed this eighteen year old woman that maybe that charges maybe you would recommend, hey, maybe you should press charges against this guy. I, I don't know. You know it was. It wasn't a million years ago, but it was a different time back then, especially when you're talking about a town like Logan sixty five hundred people, right? But here's where things are going to get a little stranger captain because on Saturday, October ninth. This is just about four five days after the, the couple was last seen, Dale Johnson. And at step-father he shows up uninvited and unannounced at the Scholtz house and he's asking a lot of questions wearing clothes, I believe so. Okay. Now besides the expected questions of, have you seen my stepdaughter type things Dale. Demanded that the Scholtz family turnover, any of nets belongings to him specifically asking for a nets. Close. Sandra Schultz refused in said, no. Now when asked why he came to the house to collect a nets clothing. Dale Johnson yelled at Sandra and said, it's because that's all her mom has to remember her by Sandra was shocked by this statement, and she would soon tell police that we meaning the Scholtz family thought that the two teenagers were missing. But Dale was acting like they were dead and he's talking about them in the past tents. She wondered if she wasn't thinking they were dead. Why was why was he thinking that they were dead? Right? So not only did the Scholtz family. Think Dale Johnson impossibly. His wife's hair were acting extremely suspicious, but the police thought, so too one that would be your motive for murder or could be a motive for murder. If everybody in the. Town is suspecting you of molesting your stepdaughter than if you get rid of her, then you can't have those charges brought against you. Well, all fairness to the Johnson family, there was a lot of suspicious behavior going around. In fact, within days of the couple having gone missing the local police department, they were receiving a lot of phone calls. Most of the callers were simply asking for a status update on the case, things like had the couple been located, and if not, did the police have any idea as to where they could be, did the couple run off together or could they have been murdered? And if so, did the police have any suspects? So in fairness, Dale Johnson, people in the town are calling the police in the sheriff's department, and they are asking if the law enforcement thinks that the kids could be could have been murdered. And if so, by whom if they had any suspect. So he and his wife are not the only two that are thinking something bad could have happened to these. Missing to now, some people called in to say that they saw a couple or saw the couple at different times on the evening of October fourth, the night that it is believed that the two vanished the different callers had similar statements. These were potential eye witnesses that saw the couple or at least two young adults matching the couple's description and the couple were in a in the presence of a man. Now, there's a couple different stories here. Captain some of these stories say that they were in the presence of Dale Johnson. Some of the other stories say they were in the presence of an unknown man. Somebody that the I witnessed in no. Obviously, an extensive police search was well underway. Friends. Teachers of the teens were interviewed several giving disturbing reports about Dale Johnston. Some of the interviewee said, Dale Johnson was a was full of jealousy possessiveness over a net and wreck. What they called DALE'S hatred for a nets male France. Sarah Johnson also came under suspicion with several reports coming that can only be called mixed while a lot of these reports are unclear as to the details. But state, Sarah Johnston was seen with the teens and net and Todd the night that they went missing police found the behavior of Dale and Sarah Johnston to be extremely odd. Most noteworthy, the mothers and the stepfather's behavior. In the early interviews when police believed them both to not only be deceptive, but quite unemotional for parents of a missing child right? Win, providing police with items to assist in the search for the teens, Dale and Sarah surrendered nude, photographs of a net. This sent into motion a theory of what happened to the two missing teens. Hold on, say sust lowdown a little bit. So. So the police are talk into the missing girls mother and the missing girls stepfather, and they say, hey, do you have any items that would help us in the search and they go, here's some nudie picks. Yes. So I think I should clean this up a bit because I think you should most of the most of the reports about this case. Sage is simply that that, hey, they actually a lot of the reports state that Dale Johnston gave the police nude photographs of his stepdaughter. Right? I think what has happened this cases. Extremely interesting to me because there is a lot of local legend involved. In this case, there's a lot of folklore and I think that what we have is it's like when you go fishing and you catch a decent size fish and every time you tell nother person about your fishing trip. That fish gets a little bigger and a little bigger and a little bigger. I, I like to make it smaller because. Because by the tenth time you tell it is about this big. Well, I forgot to tell you last time I went, I caught a thirty footer. Yeah. It's it's hanging up on my wall. Now, I think what has happened here captain. I think that in this is just my speculation. I think that the parents provided police and sheriff's with items to help find a net. And I think that they probably provided them with several photographs in amongst those photographs. There may have been one or two photos of net that maybe she wasn't fully dressed. I think over the years, the stories have blossomed into this Dale Johnston handed over nude photos of his stepdaughter or what's gonna set about this cases. She was she was a pretty girl, and so that's the main focus, you know, even read. So earlier's she's very pretty and everybody in town thought she was pretty. And then you talk about the boyfriend and it's like, well, he's really talented and he was smart and, and it's like, because she was, you know, a beautiful girl like by default, that's all people talk about now. So. So the the two are missing, right? And this sets into motion theory of what happened to the two missing teens police used the photographs of a net along with the circulating rumors that Annette stepfather Dale had molested her and must have killed her and Todd Scholtz in either a jealous rage or as a means of covering up the molest Asians, police also theorized that either Sarah and that's mother assisted in one or all of the following, the disappearance murder and the concealment of their remains or at the very least knew about it. Yeah, Logan, police detective, James Thomson is brought in and he begins a crusade against Dale Johnston, believing he is responsible for the teen's disappearance. Each interview with police reveals more details of what police refer to as a sexually dysfunctional Johnston, household, Dale John. Is desperately seeking supporters. So he contacts friend of his who claims to be a psychic. This is Raymond mills, okay, Raymond, using his quote, unquote gifts believes Dale Johnson is the murderer and he publicly sides with police against Dale Johnson. Can you imagine that. So so Dale is desperate for he's desperate for somebody to support him. He's like, I'm being accused of all this stuff. Let me reach out to my buddy. He can see he's the all CNI is a psychic and psychic comes back and says, while my friend, what I see is that you kill them. I'm telling you, man, this is I have to. We have to really look at this for what it is. Especially back then in this town, he, you know, the old black and white Frankenstein movie where where Frankenstein's monster is in the village in the town, people are gathering torches and pick axes, and there's like a mob of people that are going to chase him out of town or kill him. Yeah, this this was a similar man Taliban to these missing teenagers in these rumors that Dale Johnson had molested his stepdaughter. The townspeople are all up in arms. They want Dale Johnson arrested immediately. The shares. Coming after him. The detective is building a crusade against him and within his own four walls of the trailer on his fifty three acre property. He's he's complaining to his wife. Everybody in town thinks that molested and killed these kids and his wife is going Honey. I know you didn't do it, but you're the stepfather. They're going to come after you, right? And you walk around in the nude and you take nudie picks of your stepdaughter. There's rumors happened. They're gonna come after what's also going on. Captain is the police department and the sheriff's office there telephones are ringing off of the hook with conflicting reports some stating that they had heard shots fired in the riverbank cornfield area. And then listen to this. There were reported sightings of mysterious men who appear out of the mist and odd shaped hats. 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Everyone's worst fears were realised to torsos were found floating in the Hocking river police later located a spot from where they believe the two torsos were placed in the river sheriff. James Jones said a path led from that spot in the river to a makeshift burial ground following this path. This led to the discovery of six bloody holes in the cornfield berry. Just a few inches down where the limbs into heads. The heads and limbs were actually located about two days after they found the torsos police theorized that the blood found near some of the holes indicated that the victims may have been slain and dismembered right there. What. Confusing about this report is it says, buried at one point, then it says six bloody holes. So when I think six thirty halls, I'm thinking these holes were dug and then body parts were put into these holes, but there were never filled back in. I think they probably were. I mean, all report stated these these limbs and heads were found buried, just a few inches into the ground. So I do believe that they were buried. I think that this is just a reporter making a description, and you have to keep in mind too. We're talking about this is not right off the roadside. This is out in the middle of nowhere. There's a very good chance that the the description given by the newspaper reporter on October fourteenth or fifteenth of nineteen. Eighty-one never saw that that ground or that area before writing up the article. Now, as I was saying police, they arise at the. Blood found near some of the quote, unquote holes indicated that the victims may have been slain dismembered right there. Then the torsos later dragged to the river officials found no weapons or digging implements in the cornfield. The only clothing found was a pair of socks that authorities could not link to either victim. The bloody pieces facilitated positive identification of two nude, human torsos removed from the Hocking river. Now, this means that the the limbs in the head matched that of the two torsos that they found right, and they recovered the bodies of nineteen year old Todd Scholtz eighteen year old. A net Cooper, Logan residents stunned by the gruesome deaths, talked in small groups near the river after the discovery. And one resident actually told a reporter that quote, there's never been anything as grotesque as this. What do you think that all means a mean? You're gonna. You're going to bury limbs, but that you're going to have the torsos go in to the river. You think that's a symbol of something I don't know. And I can only imagine what the rumors would be or what kind of stories. So people have to try to make sense of this right? This is never happened in in this area before, and so that's why these small groups of people are meeting near this area. They wanna see what's coming out of there. What police in what people were pulling out of there, but they're, they're also going to theorize and come up with their own theories as to why do we find dismember torsos in the river and then we found some parts buried elsewhere. Yeah, almost seems like a symbol of something from the killers perspective, it could be. I think it probably looks that way to the citizens of Logan. However, from the killers perspective, to me, it looks more like just trying to conceal the the bodies themselves. I mean we're talking nineteen eighty two. I don't know when the first murder conviction without a body being recovered occurred in this state or in the country. But at one point, if you didn't have a body, there was no, there was no murder. There was no murder trial by, but you'd have the limbs 'cause they're bearing the limb. So if you found the limbs. Well, yeah. But I mean, it's obviously trying to conceal all pieces in parts of these individuals. Now, the Logan residents, they also said to the newspapers that the bodies were just too well hid. This is a quote, the bodies were just too well hid. It must be somebody local. I think that's very telling of where they found these torsos and topsy was performed on the torsos in Franklin county. The other body parts were sent to the coroner's office for examination hockey counting coroner, Dr. Robert Rouch said that the two were shot today. Death, and he was quote not at liberty to divulge further details about the shootings. Logan police said they are working the case. The Scholtz's asked the police to release whatever information they can about the slayings saying, quote, we feel people should know what really happened. So parents can watch out for their children said MRs Scholtz and we don't want somebody else to go through. What we've had to go through positive identification is made using dental records of both of these individuals with f. b. i. ballistics expert claiming twenty two caliber bullets killed the victims and alleged boop. Rindt is discovered in shallow water near the riverbank and the county is on high alert with a mandatory nine pm curfew on the day when the limbs were found a police officer guarding and securing the location, he sees a man lurking in the corner. Stocks. This turns out to be Kenny Lyn Scott. He's a local man twenty two years old and he's nursing a badly cut arm. Now, this is not a fresh cut police question. This man right there in the cornfield Kenny Lyn Scott lived nearby and was known to police as a small time drug dealer. He is referred to as a local river rat someone that has always fishing in the river and hunting in the nearby fields. Police of course want to know what he's doing in the cornfield near the crime scene, but he simply is out hunting and had seen all of the police in the area wanted to know if they were looking for the missing teens there. And if they found anything regarding KENNY'S arm, he had cut it on a broken window, received medical attention at a hospital shortly afterward after the heinous fine of the body parts news crews, swarmed the religiously tight-knit ca. Immunity. And the story is broadcasted nationally in the county is now on high alert. Searching the crime scene continues and additional interviews with victims. Parents are taking place as said, they had used dental records to positively ide- the bodies after positive identifications are made. This sets Don Scholtz Todd's father into a frenzy. He is convinced as many others are in Logan that Dale Johnson killed his son. So Don Scholtz gets his rifle jumps in his truck and drives out to the Johnson property. Google again, that's right there with gun in hand, he demands that Dale turn himself in and confess to the double homicide. Now, let's go through this double murder investigation because most of the reports out there that still exist, they don't tell you what was going on as far as the investigation goes. Most reports don't tell you the true story of the investigation. Now captain. I don't. Want to go through everything in great detail because we would end up doing eight episodes on this case. But what I will tell you is this anyone that followed this case back in nineteen eighty two will agree with me. The investigation in the events that took place in Logan after they found the bodies. Well, to be quite Frank, it was a damn circus down there. So with you have a victim's father going off to another victims stepfather and say, turn yourself in him by gun point. That's pretty pretty nuts Allred. And despite the police already stating that they think the missing teens were killed in the cornfield where the body parts were found brain. They also have a 'nother theory one that the officers in charge believed very strongly, and that is Dale had shot and killed the teens at his farm butchered them bag their bodies through their torsos in the river and buried the rest of the remains in the cornfield. And as. As the motive is Johnson had sexually molested his stepdaughter and was jealous about her impending marriage. So please have this theory, but as their crime scene at stepfather's house, not that we're aware of and it's it's one of those weird situations where you have you have investigators that are publicly stating two opposing theories, you know, they publicly state that, hey, there's enough blood in the cornfield that we believe that these victims were killed here and dismembered here. But the working theory that we're we're rolling with that we're investigating is Dale Johnson, killed them at his farm butchered him at his farm bagged the bodies and brought them to this area, right? Even though we don't have evidence of that yet, correct. Well, under questioning, Dale and his wife, Sarah and Sarah's other daughter, Michelle, they denied all the accusations. And what I mean by that is they denied any knowledge about the disappearance, the murders dismembering, the burial. And the molest Asian. Right? You know. So we have Dale, of course, we're going to have Dale saying, yes, I didn't molest my stepdaughter, but we also have his wife and the stepdaughters biological sister real sister stating that stuff was not going on. I know it's rumored, but that was not happening here. And then there was Kevin Meyer. So detective, Robert Snyder from Columbus, Ohio, police departments, organized crime squad. He becomes unofficially involved in the case, believing that Kevin Meyer is the killer. This is twenty six year old. Kevin Meyer a strange individual by all reports, I could find, and a butcher by trade with mental problems is reported by his employers, Jill and Dan fray. So the dude with mental problems has the job of handling the sharp knives. Yes. So Jill, Dan fray become involved with this investigation when they were. Port, they report that they believe that their employees was involved in this, and then we have a local woman who wished to stay anonymous and using the alias. Jane Doe gives a detailed account of seeing the victims talking with a peculiar looking older man fitting. The description of Kevin Meyer the this is on the evening when the two teens went missing. We do have to point out though captain sheriff Jones who is running the showdown there. He is friends with Kevin Meyer in defends his friend publicly. Now, one of the more bizarre theories, demon. Allah, just Jeff hilson becomes involved in the case by giving his theory to the media in which he stated that he believes that a group of drug using satanist butchered, the young couple FBI agent, Herman Henry is brought in and gives a psychological profile of the killer. This profile. Does not steer them away from anyone already mentioned right. Sheriff Jones continues to publicly defend his friend Kevin Meyer and by now has become uncooperative with the FBI and detective Snyder from Columbus to know anything about this profile. Like what entails I do not. I did not could not find the details of other than stated just what what we had said, all the persons named publicly or named to the media as potential suspects, whether they were suspects of the actual investigation or just by the people of Logan. It didn't rule any of them out, right? We what we have here though captain is we got sheriff Jones. We have the f. b. i. we have detective Snyder. We have several different agencies working this investigation as said, sheriff Jones is running the show, but plain and simple. What we have right now is we have three different agencies and all. All of them are not agreeing on a prime suspect. You know, sheriff Jones thinks Dale Johnston, did it agent Henry thinks Johnson is not the guy and detective Snyder believes that the sheriff's friend Kevin Meyer is the killer and Kevin's employers continue to report him to police revealing more bizarre reasons why he is the killer. They haven't fired him yet. Yeah, it's a little strange that they would. I don't know that they are publicly stating the Kevin Meyer. They believe him to be the killer brighter. If they're just calling the cops behind the scenes. Well, they've they've at least reported this to the Columbus PD Mitch. Now, keep in mind is almost an hour's drive away. The reason how this comes about is that the the, the lady that is the employer of Kevin Meyer. I think her brother-in-law she somehow related to this detective that she says, hey. I think this weird guy that works for me who also happens to be a butcher is the killer one because she's not publicly stayed in the stuff. We don't know actually what this weird stuff. This weird guys doing. We have to really understand focus on what's going on in this area. At this time. This is a media circus down there. Okay. We have a town of only sixty five hundred people and after the bodies are found chopped up, which there's really no nice way to put it. I apologize, but that's the case. But then some could argue, well, Kevin has the means to chop them up. I mean, just based off of his job yet, but what what where I'm going with this is that it's a media circus down there. This is like the Casey, Anthony, Scott Peterson situation where we have everybody looking for a killer and all this media comes to town and probably not as much media, but it's also much smaller town than. Where Casey Anthony was from her or Scott Peterson was from, but what you obviously have is everybody wanting to become involved in this case amount. There's a giant spotlight on the small town of Logano Hieaux and a lot of people want to push their way to the forefront and be in that spotlight. And so everyone somehow feels connected to the case and they feel like they have an opinion and something to say regarding the case on, there's definitely some suspicious stuff with the stepfather Ming talking about his stepdaughter past tense. That's little odd. You know the rumors around town. We don't know if those are true or not, but those are those are some damning rumors if you're molesting your step daughter. Well, and I think that's exactly what you have here. Okay, we've seen this. The thing that is so interesting and intriguing about this real life case is that so many times on television and in movies. This. Situation is imitated. And what I mean by that is think about this, we have the local guy, the sheriff Jones. He knows the area. He's the man in charge, and he's been enforcing the law and Logan for a long time. I am the law. And of course, who does he think killed this couple. It's it involves local rumors. It involves a guy that lives there that was under his watch that he says, you know what? I've heard all the rumors about this guy. I believe them to be true. He's an outsider that came in here and he's not only an outsider by by moving and transplanting into Logan. He's an outsider in the sense that guy walks around with his clothes off, but I don't get him. I don't understand him. He's a weird. Oh, so he is a suspect under the local sheriff's is and then you have the FBI agent agent Henry comes into town and he says, you know what? I'm not going to get consumed by local rumor bright. I'm. I'm I'm of a better class of law enforcement in the sense I'm from the FBI I'm the bed or law. Well, I'm going to come into the area and I'm going to use my experience to actually hone in on a real suspect. I'm not going to allow local rumor to point me in the direction. I'm going to use the facts and the evidence of the case. And really we don't have a ton of evidence. I mean, we have possibly these socks that are left by the crime scene where they think the crime scene could happen the cornfield and then we have this boot or was awesome imprint. Okay. Yeah. So I mean, that's pretty much all they got going form right now. There's not a lot of evidence, and there's a lot of speculation. And what I mean by that is not just by f. b. i. r. law enforcement. It's by the locals and the locals are not only telling the media about who they think did this. They're calling the police department in the sheriff's department. I mean, can you imagine the phone calls that they're getting right. We have a demon quote, unquote. Demon knowledge is that comes to the area and says, look, here's what actually happened. A group of drug induced satanists killed and butchered these kids, right? But there is no evidence other than possibly the mutilation that would lead this for anybody to believe that this is a satanic ritual or some type of maybe the six holes, six, six, six. Maybe that would be some sign. Well, I think that what we have here is really the mutilation to the bodies. The dismemberment is something that is so foreign to this area it, you know, there are, unfortunately, there's a lot of murders out there who start podcast. Most of the time, the person that kills the victim doesn't go to the length of of cutting them up into small pieces and that is horrifying that that is something that has does not sit well with. With any of us, right? We don't. We most of us can't comprehend how somebody could dissect somebody like that. And so therefore I think that you try to make sense out of it, the community as a whole tries to make sense out of it. And that's when you have people coming forward and saying, well, listen to what the kids are listening to these days. It's, you know, listen to the music that's out these days. All these kids are doing drugs these days. It's gotta be a bunch of satanist. It's the only thing that makes sense to some of the people in the community. And so where we have no evidence that there is any type of to use a term from the west Memphis, three satanic trappings. What did they call that? The say, Tanic droppings they called it something like that. The trappings of a ritual Listrik killing dropping or sacrafice killing, but. Where we don't have any true evidence of that. You can have people coming out of the woodwork that are going like you just said, was there six holes? Will that must mean six. Six, right. Well, was the was the hand separated from the forearm? Well, that must mean that must mean something. And anytime you. Decapitate somebody that means that's a satanic trapping and where we have no real evidence of that. We also don't have any real evidence that Dale Johnston killed these kids other than rumors really is the Tanic crap anything more than a rumor know. And as far as his, his family states, as far as Dale Johnson's wife in other stepdaughter state, all of the rumors of him molesting the murder victim. Annette are nothing more than rumors. Just like the satanic panic going on nothing more than a rumor. There's no evidence. There's nobody stating that they had witnessed that happen. And so the problem with this double homicide here. I don't know. I don't know that I would claim this to be that we have a bunch of keystone cops that don't know what they're doing. I don't think that's the situation here. Yes, is murder a rarity there? Yes. Is the dismemberment of the bodies super rare, one hundred percent. You have the towns people saying, we've never seen anything like this before. Never even heard of anything like this before, but at the same time, I think really what is happening here in this very moment is that they are getting so many people coming forward stating so many different things from different ends of the spectrum of what could be a possible good lead to something that might just be crazy talk. They have people coming to the police department, the sheriff's department stating I saw some guys that just seem to appear out of nowhere with weird hat. They're wearing funny hats. I think they were in the cornfield out and they must to kill those kids. 'cause I've. Seen them before and maybe they were demons. Maybe they were ghost. I don't know. That's the kind of calls that they're getting. Right. And where I think that this thing goes goes off the rails of it. And I say that and I laugh to myself because it's very, obviously already off the rails. And plus you find yourself Klarius. But I think that there was probably some truth in some of those earlier statements given to police and some of those earlier calls that were fed in as possible leads. Some of them were truthful, and some of them were just wrong. And the problem I think we had here is who knows which lead to follow when you receive a ton of them, some of them are completely crazy. Some of them are complete may be completely right, but on the surface until you investigate until you look at each one of those, you can't tell which is which. Lot more to get into tomorrow. If you haven't been checking out our show off the record you need to. It's it's heating up like they say, it's heating up. Garage hits a huge hit. It's a big hit and Sweden big hit and Channa. So check that out at Stitcher, premium dot com. Backslash true crime garage use promo code garage Raj. So check that out and until tomorrow be good become and don't let.

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Whoa, captain yesterday we presented the case of nineteen year old. Todd Schultz in eighteen year old net Cooper, a young couple that is murdered in a small town in nineteen eighty two in Logan, Ohio. And one thing we also talked about a little bit about was a man named Kevin Meyer who was reported by his employers to the police, the butcher, yeah, and said, hey, these kids were butchered, this guy Kevin Meyer. He's a weirdo. He works for us and he's a butcher. We think he had something to do with the murders of those two teenagers. But what we talked the most about was a guy named Dale Johnston, the step father of a net and the local rumors at the time was that he was molesting or had molested a net Cooper at some point, and that he was either jealous of her relationship with Todd Schultz and killed the couple out of jealousy or he was trying to cover up the molest Asian of his stepdaughter longlist not. Forget that there was a media circus in this town. That's only sixty five hundred big. Well, this point in the investigation, Dale Johnston starts telling investigators as well as the media about a net being involved with an older man before she died and public speculation stirs as to who this could have been. Allegedly, this turns out to be an officer of the law. Lieutenant Mallory Dun Dun Deng. Yeah, he quickly becomes under suspicion. This is because of his alleged romp with a net just weeks before her disappearance. So she is dating Todd, but the rumor is that she had sexual relationships with this cop. Yeah, there's some. There's some kind of rumor to this and I think on the surface, it looks like Dale Johnston's just kind of pointing out a possibility. Like I couldn't be the killer because guess what? She was involved with somebody else and you've not spoke. To that guy yet, right? What's weird about this is that when it first comes out, it looks just like Dale Johnston presenting another option, taking suspicion off of himself where it holds a little bit of water is the people in town start talking and they name a name Lieutenant our Bryan. And I do continue to say alleged because I couldn't find any actual proof that the two of them had a relationship while and this gets tricky because in such a small town, the rumor mill works fast and sky, like the game telephone. So all you have to do is an and maybe the stepfather knew this. Maybe he knew all you had to do was put out the rumor and that rumor would grow and grow and grow. So that room or could have been started by the allegations. I love small towns captain. I always have always will. But the thing that I've always said about small towns is what's really great about this small town is everybody knows everybody what's really. Bad about the small town is everybody knows everybody meaning like you just said, if there's rumors about me or you everybody in the town is heard them if you or I got any business going on, everybody knows our business. There's plenty of rumors about us on the internet. Well, here's the other weird thing regarding this Lieutenant Mallory, and if they actually had any kind of relationship or if he added an involvement in their disappearance and murder. Right? So listen to this. We have two witnesses that come forward, and this is a father and son that come forward. They say that they saw someone matching Lieutenant Maoris description emerging from the cornfield in which the bodies were later found on the early morning of October fifth. So the morning after the young couple were last seen now, we also have this ongoing situation. We have Jill and Dan fray who continue reporting. The Kevin Meyer is the person they. I should be looking at thority should be looking at and they have some new and interesting tidbits to report to police. This time they are telling police that Dan fry intentionally got Kevin Meyer drunk, and during the course of that evening, Kevin Meyer, he had said undisclosed on reported information concerning the double homicide to Dan fry, and they report this to police to do know what this information is. No, and I'll tell you why several reasons one. As soon as this report comes out, Kevin Meyer quits his job and how time I don't know how much of this was trickling down to the media. I don't know how much of this was behind the scenes bright, or we also have to keep in mind if if it was making its way to the media, Kevin Meyer may not have known at the time that the accusations were coming from his employer. Lawyers right? Been and also this is very small town. I mean, I worked at a lumber yard one time and probably ninety percent of them -ployees or from Logan, and they had to drive about an hour and a half to get to work. So there's not really job. There's not even to this day, there's not a lot of jobs there. Right? And it is great little town, but Kevin could have been going. I don't care who the rumors are coming from. I need a job not only does he quit his job, but he also leaves the town of Logan moving away any hires an attorney, and he moves away even though he still considered a suspect at this time right now, fishy. The victims were eventually buried in separate cemeteries. And during both burials, there was heavy media coverage, and then a public Halloween party is held in downtown Logan to help boost the spirits of the Logan citizens and Lieutenant Mallory is promoted to captain. Then we have trick or treat night is set for daylight hours due to the murders. You know, nobody wants to send their kids out after dark or as the sun is setting. When we still have a murderer on the loose hockey county seals a net and Todd's autopsy reports. This is to keep them from the media while the media reports more public opinion of devil worshippers killing the teens. But and then there were rumors of cattle, mutilations dating back all the way to the nineteen seventies and a lot of people suspected that the cattle mutilations of the seventies were connected to the double murders of nineteen eighty two. Yeah, they're probably more connected to quail leads. Well. Then we have a nets biological father, Ben Cooper, he makes the spotlight by giving interviews and blaming the murders on Dale Johnston share of Jones brings in a psychic. This is Shirley Saunders now wait. So we have to this is what's a little strange about this case. Okay. First off, we have a man, Dale Johnson who's considered to be an outsider considered to be different than the people of Logan. And when he has nobody else to turn to who does he turn to returns to a psychic? I mean, if you're already the guy that's labeled as different, right in a small town, you don't go. Well, I found one person to support me and it's this guy that says he's a psychic that seems a weird thing, but that backfires on him because his psychic friend then tells Dale Johnson and the media look, I think you killed them and I'm taking the polices side here. Now we have the sheriff himself bringing in their own psychic. This. This is gonna sound very strange, but I tried and I spent a lot maybe way too much time on this one aspect of this case, this individual Shirley Saunders and it's kind of a common name so that does not help when I was trying to research this, but. A couple of the things that I found captain. She's labeled as a FBI psychic like she either is employed or contracting by the f. b. i. to go into these areas and give psychic readings or tell us her her insights. We know that there has been mediums and stuff that have worked for law enforcement before. And then on top of that, we know that a lot of detectives will use psychics not necessarily that they have to believe in them. But just that sometimes by getting a reading, they're getting a outside perspective of possibly where they could look, especially if a case goes cold well, and I couldn't believe that the f. b. i. would would employ a psychic or somebody to be in that hold that title of psychic as a job title for the FBI as a fulltime employees. I wouldn't be shocked at their contract did on occasion, but I couldn't find any information on this Shirley Saunders. I was hoping. Maybe she went on to write a bulk or something where her her credentials would be outright stated other than this could. This could just be public opinion where somebody stated this wrong. And again, certain aspects of this case of become local legend and folklore while maybe they reported it wrong. Maybe she works for the f. PI right over at Earl psychic institution. Well, and maybe she's brought in from out of town and people had already seen the FBI coming in from out of town and thought she must be FBI, right. Well, she reports she came in with their crystal ball shit must be the FBI well, she reports to sheriff Jones. Now, sheriff Jones is the one that brought her there and she reports the Jones that Dale Johnston is innocent in her mind and that the murders were committed by two killers and not want this. Let let them go. Well, this is not going to sway the sheriff. He. He still believes that Dale is the killer and his team of investigators gay. Gather more damaging reports of Dale. A lot of these are starting to get stories of Dale owning a large amount of knives and guns, and we know that they were shot. We know that the victims were dismembered, so this is not look good for him. Now we have thirty one year old, Mike Jiddah he alleges that Dale Johnston is a is a satanist or at least involved in satanic activity, right? He doesn't baseless off of anything. Well, I can't say that he doesn't base it. I don't know what he's basing this off of a dream, but he's he doesn't tree. He doesn't put forth any concrete evidence to to back up this statement this this again, we just have another person that lives in the area coming forward with information that we have no way of deciphering if it's true or false Brian. Again with this Tommy and so small, the rumor mill is going to just keep going and keep going. Then. We have another individual and I'm going to totally screw up his name. I can't figure this one out twenty five year old Scott, Fujitsu, I think foo- get. I'll spell it again if anybody wants to look. This sounds great f. u. g. e. t. t. I'm probably getting that completely wrong, but so this twenty five year old man named Scott. He reports Dale Johnston, fired shots at him when he rode his motorcycle on DALE'S property this again, not looking good for Dale at a town meeting. This is a town meeting of two hundred and fifty citizens. They are vocally outraged about the killer, not being apprehended and the lack of police officers and Logan. So this would fully point out the fears of the citizens of Logan at that time. Not only are they saying, hey, we're afraid because you haven't arrested anybody, but we're also afraid because we don't think there's enough law enforcement. In this area, but we know that we know that they were getting help from Columbus PD. Unofficially, right. And and maybe sheriff Jones didn't want that quote unquote help. Now, the meeting ended with the citizens of Logan, demanding the arrest and conviction of the major suspect who they considered to be the major suspect Dale Johnston, regardless of conflicting views and regardless of the lack of evidence. And we've seen this in Ohio before up north withhold Dr shepherd, right the the, you know the public outrage. And so then it's weird how public outrage actually gets the criminal Justice system moving. Yeah, it's the public, controlling the hand of the law or the media, directing the hand of the law by the sheriff's department shows up at Dale Johnston's property. This is unannounced. So he's but negative. Well, what I will say in his defense here, one thing that points good for him and his direction, they show up unannounced and Dale says, go ahead and search the property. He's he's willing to let them he doesn't fight it. You know, he doesn't say, no, you need to come back with a warrant. They don't specify by the state of circumstantial evidence, but they what they stay is that circumstantial evidence was retrieved from the edge of the property that links the stepfather to the actual murders. All right. Let's talk about this here captain because we have no list of what this circumstantial evidence is. It doesn't exist, but I like I think this is where you have the sheriff's department going. Look. We did a search and we found some stuff. We've found some shit boys. Okay. So the the citizens have pushed our hand. Now we're. Going to release this information conveniently to the media, which is again going, it's going to keep the cycle going. It's going to keep the circle going, right? You wanted us to find evidence. We found well, then we have a statement that's very interesting. And this is where I think we can come up with an idea of what that circumstantial evidence may or may not be. We have FBI ballistics expert. This is Thomas Nicholson. He reports publicly that Dale Johnston quote might have committed the murders. All right. Well, what is this guy's job? He's a ballistic. Sex s. expert, right? The stuff that's he's the risk case. Well, we also have this guy earlier that says, hey, I was writing my motorcycle on Dale Johnson's property and he fired a couple shots at me. My idea here is that maybe they recovered bullet casings from some, right, right. And these bullets could have been twenty two caliber ri- could be done. On the edge of the property because he was shooting at a guy to get off his land or somebody not Dale Johnston was shooting their gun on the edge of his property. Dale Johnson's property is depending on which report you read. It varies from fifty two acres to fifty four acres. I labeled it as fifty three just to be kissed him. So Bakkal dude, fifty three acre property. You can't. You don't know what the hell's going on on your property. That's a huge amount of land. Anybody could be on the edge of your property firing a gun anytime. Now, let's say it did come from, let's say it was from Daryl. Dale Johnston, target shooting shooting, hunting animals or shooting at this motor. This motorcyclist now where he could be going out there, you know with his Dong flapping in the wind, and he's just firing bullets up in the air, you know. And I think he has the right to says land. But a twenty two is an extremely extremely common gut, yes. And to the point where that's you have the FBI ballistics expert. Thomas Nicholson stating Johnston might have committed the murders and he's basing that I believe off of them finding casings of twenty of twenty two caliber bullets on the property. At some point also seems like they haven't done the tests yet because the test would prove if it was that gun or not. Well, that's why I think he had to publicly say might because I bet you they did do the test and they didn't match. But because they were the same caliber of gun, he saying, well, he had access to twenty two. We can't prove that they're the came from the same gun, right? But maybe they couldn't prove that they didn't come from the same gun. Therefore he might have the thing that the reason why I include these tidbits. So captain is all of this stuff is finding its way to the media. There's nothing that happens. In this case that doesn't get released publicly. I mean they, they did lock up the autopsies. They did seal the autopsies, but outside of that, any little inkling anybody had of Dale Johnson being guilty finds its way to the newspapers bright, which is very interesting to me because in Ohio, we have another set of murders that people have been talking about lot is the pike county murders, and that's a very, very small town, and there's not there's not much happening in the media about that case. No. So it's kind of the reverse. Now we also have Dr Louise Robbins, a forensic anthropologists reports that Dale Johnston's boop matches the print found at the crime scene, and then we have nineteen year olds. Steve Rhine. This is Todd Schultz, cousin. He comes forward as a possible eyewitness later. He is hypnotized by police and well, not by an actual police officer, but I'm sure they. Hired somebody to hypnotize this individual. And during this interview, he says that he saw Dale Johnston force the two teens into a car on the evening of October fourth. So now we have eyewitness. We have an eyewitness that vocal that name's David Johnston, Dale Johnston. Now Dale is interrogated. He's a, he's picked up for this. He's interrogated in what is later reported as a smoke filled room for seven to eight hours during this. And I don't think this was by choice captain during this he's wearing nothing, but under shorts and socks, he's film good. Well, they basically tell them to strip down. He wants to get in his element and they're going to interview him in his undershorts and socks. And the reason they did this, they were convinced that they would find some kind of markings on him. Scrapes bruises something. That would have been defensive wounds. There was no, there's no sign of trauma to his body at all. He while there's signs of trauma to my body, he continues to deny the allegations against him agent. Remember agent Henry from the FBI he disapproves. He publicly comes out and disapproves of the way that detective Thompson interrogated Dale Johnston. He called it barbaric, right? But he he has his suspect in his sights. Right, right. So, I mean, this is a classic example of people in tunnel vision and not jumping on board. During this interrogation, the Logan police detective constantly. He just kept telling Johnston to confess, we know that you killed the kids, you know that you killed the kids. You need to confess you need to make this right. Make it easier on yourself, and he kept in. He kept reminding him that the town was in fear. The whole town was in fear. Can you help us out by confessing to this so that the town can continue to go on? And he said, hold on a second. Let me take off my socks. Well, they also brought in Sarah, his wife, and they brought in his other stepdaughter. Michelle, Michelle was reportedly kept in a room for eight hours for a solid eight hours. And what I mean by that is during that eight hours, she had nothing to eat. She had no restroom breaks. And according to Sarah, her mother, she said that they just grilled and grilled and grilled Michelle until she finally just shut down. She just wouldn't respond anything. Right. And that's what we're talking about. The other day on off the record is. You know, if you're if you don't have any information or they're accusing you of a crime and you claim that you're innocent, how many times should you have to claim this before they're forced to leave you alone. And I'm curious as to her age, we, I know that she was not an adult. I believe that she would have been fifteen or sixteen at this time. Now what her mother, Sarah would later tell us is that the police, the sheriff's department, they were angry that they couldn't get anything out of Michelle. They got nothing out of her out of eight hours of grilling her. She confessed to nothing and Sarah says that what they wanted her to say was that she was there that she had witnessed the to being killed or Saul them after they were killed and that the mother Sarah had cut up the bodies or helped her husband Dale cut up the bodies. Yeah, it's. And if you have no evidence of this and they must have believed that this is how it went down to try to get this teenager to turn on her mother. I mean, it's one thing to turn on your stepfather, especially with the rumors around town, but to turn on your mother as well. That makes me really question if DALE'S guilty or not. I almost feel like this poor girl that's grilled for eight hours. It could have been easy to turn on your stepfather, especially if there was actually any kind of molest Asian or sexual abuse going on in the household. If how long would it take you to tell them? Hey, yeah, I do think he did it. Maybe I didn't see anything, but I still think he did it. You know? So it makes me question his guilt, but he's arrested. Dale Johnson is arrested. He's denied bail the same day that he is arrested. Michelle, the other daughter is picked up and placed in foster care. This is in another county. They take her out. Out of the area and we have the, the wife that remains Sarah. She is basically ostracized in town. Right? They she bannered a murder because she married a murder, and now they don't end date think maybe she's involved. So they take her daughter away the towns. People seem to think that she is involved in maybe the police just don't have anything on her in the course of weeks, man. This woman, Sarah lost her daughter to to being murdered her husband to the arrest of that murder and her daughter to foster care. Ladies ladies ladies treat yourself with Madison Reed for decades. Women only had two options outdated at home hair-color or the time, and they expensive salon. That's why Maslin read is reinventing the way women cover their hair by offering the quality of salon color and the convenience and the Ford ability of at home hair-color and then ammonia free formula with ingredients. You can feel good about, you're going to look like, you just came from a on, but in reality you had more meat time to do what you love experienced, beautiful multidimensional hair-color. 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This is the length that that this news spread to know the people that ensured her car for her to drive cancelled her car insurance. They said, we don't want you as a customer. We don't want your money. We will no longer insure you as a driver. If she went into a store, she was told to leave. So again, being ostracized by the entire town, that's awful. And then she star. Having panic attacks. We pointed out before the break, all that she lost in a short period of time. She starts having severe panic attack if she's secluded for so long that could become a, you can get a laws, social anxiety from being secluded at some point she sent off for treatment because she decided in a haze of probably severe depression. Yeah. I mean, let's let's keep in mind. Let's let's forget that her husband's been locked up. Let's keep in mind. Her daughter's been murdered, right? Regardless of who did it. Her daughter has been killed at the young age of eighteen years old and her other daughter was taken from her taken from her home. She's not allowed to see she's lost both of her children. I think the key thing here is the reason that you wouldn't feel sorry for is if you think she's involved, but there is zero evidence of her being involved. Well, like I said. In what can only be assumed in a moment of severe depression. She decides that the town, the prosecutor, the police, the sheriff, the judges, yeah, people in power, the mayor, she, she decided. That these people must have conspired against her and that they may have killed her daughter and arrested her husband and taken away her other daughter. She makes up a list of people that are in power in the town of Logan. And she intends to kill people that are on that list. She actually came up with a plan that there was there was a place in a location that most of these individuals were going to be at the same time, and she was trying to figure out a way to plant a bomb at that location. Now she is kind of so far gone. By this point, she starts to tell people of these homicidal tendencies and thoughts that she's having and thank God for that. That's that's something we have said a billion times over and over on the show. If you are thinking things that you think are strange, right. Tell somebody tell somebody because you you can get help and you can't look as she would have planted that bomb. Or figured out a way to do. So we would have a whole nother story to tell here, right? Yes, I'm sure it'd make a great episode but all jokes side, if you to feel like you're having thoughts that are not normal. The first step that you can do is to talk to somebody that you trust and it might take a lot of power and effort, but say to them, I think I need a little help and sometimes by releasing that to a loved one that they can come around and they can give you the help that you need. She eventually is sent away for treatment, and I believe that this treatment lasted eight or nine months, and a lot of it. I'm assuming captain was probably a good amount of grief counseling, which would have been much needed for her to set her back on the right path. So good for her and good for the people that helped her and mind. You not only is there no evidence, but there's not even hearsay evidence though. Only thing they that they had was the. That they were trying to get the daughter to to make up some story that that she was there and that she conspired in this murder. Well, regarding DALE'S trial, he ops for a three judge panel instead of jury trial. I think this is a smart move on his behalf. He also request for a change of venue which normally, I think would be granted seeing how there's been so much rumor an accusation amongst the citizens of Logan as well as the media coverage that surrounded the story. However, this change of venue is denied also denied, were his motions to find and present the idea that the death penalty is unconstitutional because they were going to sentence him to death if they found him guilty. Now, the trial begins as a fistfight on the courthouse steps between relatives of the friends. Sorry between relatives and friends of both. Victims. And the reason why this is an interesting thing here because you don't typically have this in a lot of murder trials. Both of the victims here, their families and friends are made up of people that are that are also on one side friends and family of somebody being accused of the double homicide right. This fistfight breaks out the history, the police, the sheriff, they're having hard time kind of keeping law and order in organization. Here the courtroom in the hallways were standing room only. We also have dozens of citizens out front of the courthouse picketing each day that the trial went on and they're picketing four. A conviction of Dale Johnston, they're screaming, get her done. When opening arguments commence there is to say the least heavy media coverage and armed security in an outside of the courtroom. The three judges along with the prosecutor defense witnesses and Dale. They all go to the Johnston farm and to the riverbank and to the cornfield area a little field trips so to speak. And this is so that everybody can see the areas in question. The defense presents a valid perspective regarding the weakness of the state's case while showing multiple suspects that who could have equally been as guilty as Dale Johnston. The defense also presents the theory that Satan is killed. The victims the judge is permitted testimony from a specific witness in this is key to this trial. This is the witness, Steve, Rhine. We've talked about him already now to go a little bit more in depth with him. The first time that Steve Rhine was interviewed by sheriff's deputies. He was not sure of the day that he was quoting. He was not sure who the kids were that he saw when he later referred to the teenagers that went missing them were murdered or who the person was with the. Kids that he saw. So really, he knew nothing. He was also captain on paper. This is on in the police report. He's also not sure of the kind of vehicle that he saw. Basically, what he says is he comes forward to the police to the sheriff's deputies and say, I have some information that might help the case. This is before the arrest was made right. He says, I saw two people with some guy getting into a car, and I'm not really sure what day it was on, but it was in that cornfield where you found those kids. Right. Well, the sheriff's department that's when they decide to hypnotize him because sometimes you can hypnotize somebody and drawl details out of what they can't seem to remember. All right. So we have get out your crystal ball already in this case. And then on top of that, get out your pocket watch and you're getting sleepy, very sleepy. Well, what happens here? Captain is. Is Steve Ryan, who would eventually testify at Dale Johnston's trial and which lead to the arrest of Dale Johnston after he spoke to detective Thompson several times and was hypnotized. Now, all of a sudden he is telling in his statement. His latest statement is I saw a net Cooper and Todd Schultz who eventually were murdered forced into a vehicle, and it was Dale Johnston, forced him into Dale Johnston's vehicle in that area on the day that they went missing. Well, you know what? This is right. This is Hala weaned miracle. That's right. Well, this is going to lead to Dale Johnston being convicted and sentenced to death. He is going to appeal this and he's actually lucky. I believe that he got the death penalty. Now keep in mind. This is high. Oh, back in the early eighties. So he sentenced to sit on. The electric chair. Yeah. These appeals will eventually grant him a new trial. And this is because the prosecutor and investigators it becomes known that they withheld statements and evidence from Johnston's defense team that could have cast major doubt on his guilt and that they failed. This is the investigators failed to pursue leads that could have helped to exonerate him. And what that means is investigators when they took tips when that phone was ringing off the hook, they were listening to the ones that said, hey, I saw Dale Johnston, do something right. They weren't really working. The leads it said, hey, I saw something else going on and it didn't include Dale Johnston, right? Like I've said before, it's it's classic tunnel vision. Well, it was determined at a new trial captain that Johnston should have been found not guilty based on the withheld evidence which included eyewitness testimony that placed other individuals at the cornfield and not. Johnston as well as the testimony that was alternately ruled that should not have been allowed at trial since it was only brought about by hypnosis so eventually Johnson is freed in nineteen ninety. Now he would go after the state for wrongful imprisonment, claim in nineteen Ninety-three this is denied by the state and technically, well, it's denied on multiple occasions in technically, to kind of sum it up best that I can Johnston still to this day has not received a cent from the state for the years that he spent not only in prison but on death row and why find it. So hilarious. It'd be like given me the power where I could punch you. And then I said, well, I know I punched you, but you can't sue me well in the thing too is that there was language that was put into law at a later date that basically says people like Dale Johnston while. Technically, as it's written somebody that's wrongfully convicted can and should be rewarded money by the state. However, they've put language into that that it's, they make it damn near impossible that you're going to get paid for anything. And the sad part of this to me and we still got a bunch to get through is. But before Dale Johnston was sentenced to death in nineteen Eighty-four. He had a wife. He had kids, he owned fifty three acres of land. He had no debt and no pants on. But when he was released, he was released as a free man, and he had nothing other than an old pickup truck that was given to him by his lawyer. Look, if you're going to take the right away to be sued if you put the wrong person in prison, then you need to spend more time trying to put the right person and prison. Amen. I also wanna point out too. We talked about his wife, Sarah going and seeking treatment because she was had fallen on hard times to say the very least they would end up getting a divorce. And I think this should point out to whom I believe the real Dale Johnston to be. They got a divorce because of him. He had nobody. He's on death row. He had nobody. And he told his wife who it seems like he loved very much right. He said to her, he said, Sarah, we need to get a divorce because I'm locked up. I'm the monster that they locked up the monster that they think I am. They locked me away, but you're on the outside and everybody thinks you are a monster, and you've been ostracized from town and everybody hates you and you having my last name and you being married to me is going to destroy the rest of your life. He says to her, I would much rather have a friend that I got a divorce from then to have a wife that ends up committing suicide. And that was the path she was on. Yeah. And even once he was released, she continued as well as her daughter. Michelle, the living daughter, they continued to support Dale Johnston all of this time through all of his appeals and through his release. They were there to greet him. We should point out to remember Michelle who was taken from her mother's home placed into the foster care system in a different county when she was fifteen or sixteen years old and the day that she turned eighteen and was released from foster care. Where did she go back home right back to her mother, right back to her mother and that again, kind of points out that maybe some of these rumors weren't true. Maybe they just were not true. Well, Johnson after he's released and he's broke and he has no land. Nothing. He does go to live with his mother in the village of Asheville pick away county, which is twenty miles south of Columbus. Yeah. He said that he. Still was receiving quite a bit of prejudice from the people of that area. And he decided to Asheville was not going to be where he stayed. He was still very much under a cloud of suspicion, you know, and even the people that didn't believe that he was guilty of murder, they still thought and still suspected him of molesting his stepdaughter before her death. He would eventually tried to move on with his life while in prison, he did commit hisself and his life to Jesus. And after his release, he actually became a head usher at the First Baptist Church and grove city, Ohio, and later a member of the congregation. This is Roberta Crocker. She took a liking to the head usher. She said in an heart ical quote, he was a handsome, dude. So in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight ever get married. Again, I hope she says, hey, he's one, handsome, dude. I would just love to be described as a handsome, dude. I strive to be a hand. I wanna make sure with your face on it that says, handsome dude. Well, I'll give you the short of it. Captain Roberta in Johnston's relationship grew serious over the years. Eventually they were married in June of two thousand and they lived in a home in grove city, Ohio. This was not without Roberta's sons blessing who is Bryan Corbett which was the pastor at the First Baptist Church. He had heard the rumors and even her Johnston talking about spending time at lucasville which everybody in Ohio knows, hey, lucasville is not just a prison. It's maximum security and oh yeah, there's death row there too. Yeah. So he did a lot spent a lot of time with Dale Johnston getting to know him before he gave his blessing for the. Marriage to his mother. The strange thing here, though captain is after he's released after Johnson's release, this technically becomes a cold case. And people would still speculate as to Johnston's kill an a person that refuses to there's an evil person that continues to haunt true crime garage, and his name is William wick line. Yeah, he has been considered a suspect in this case by the public for many years, once this became a cold case, and he is William the butcher wick line is his nickname, he's in animal. He was found guilty of murdering decapitating and dismembering, Chris and Peggy lurch, and he was free at the time of a net Cooper and Todd Schultz's murder. Yeah. And so he was long suspected of this case he has been executed by the state of Ohio, so good luck investigating that at the time. Yeah. If you haven't looked wick line, you should because he is. I mean, he is a scary monster. You. If you wanted to write a murder book or a mystery book, right? You could, you could look his life in base a criminal or murderer after him and have a have a good selling book. Now, out of nowhere, captain there is a break in the long cold case. This didn't come until June of two thousand and seven. This is when a woman sandy Lyn Scott, she is visiting her probation officer and they're talking through some things, and she says to her probation officer, I think that twenty five years ago that those two people that were murdered Todd and Annette, I think they were at my house the night that they disappeared. And I think that they left with my husband and a man that she, she didn't know his name. She described the man as looking like a chipmunk. Okay. Okay. So you want to be described as a handsome, dude, and not a chipmunk right note self. Well, her husband is Kenny Lyn, Scott. We've heard that name. Before haven't we? He was the man in the corn stalks that were watching the police when they found the bodies. Yeah, and they questioned Kenny Lynch got the cut. And she says, when her husband Kenny came home that he was covered in blood and he had a bad cut to his arm. But he refused to discuss what had happened investigators very quickly zeroed in on Kenny Lyn Scott. And then they also zeroed in on the man that looked like a chipmunk. And this was Chester McKnight who was in prison for possession of child pornography and attempting to arrange sex with an under undercover officer posing as a teenage girl real winner. Now Lyn Scott, Kenny Lyn Scott told investigators, there was a chance, a small chance that the murdered couple had been at his house that night and that he might have even been in the cornfield with them that night. But he said he did not kill them. Okay. But what happens is once they zero in on this McKnight guy, that's in prison already. He very quickly says, I killed them and Lyn Scott helped me really? Yes. So do you want to hear how this goes down yet, but do we have a why we do? And this is this is what is so sad about this, our show and about our world about these stories. A lot of times, it's very clear that these murders are just senseless that there are people that are wiped off of this earth. They are taken from their loved ones way too young and almost for no reason at all or reasons that don't make sense to to good people too good, normal people, right? This is the story that was told to police the on the evening of October fourth nineteen eighty-two Todd in a net went to a local small time, drug dealers house. This is Kenny Lyn, Scott. The thought was that they were there to purchase a small amount marijuana and have a couple of beers. They're just going to have a little party a little get together. They're adults. We've all been there. The drug dealer, Kenny Lyn, Scott. He had his friend at the house. This is Chester McKnight at the time. McKnight was a drifter who was also nicknamed Chester the molester. Well, all right, this. This is really sad that the young couple was the Lord to a cornfield near Kenny Lynn, Scott's house. Allegedly, after more partying went down McKnight was high on LSD and cocaine, and he told Lynn Scott that he was planning on raping a net and is sounds like Kenny Lyn Scott was into doing the same. The four of them left Lynn Scott's house. And when they left Lynch got handed a twenty two caliber revolver to Chester McKnight. And he said, if Todd Schultz puts up a fight us this gun to control him. Well, they did start to assault a net and as expected, Todd Schultz came to her rescue and started to protect his girlfriend and so- mcnutt McKnight shot Todd six times twice in the head and a net started to scream, and that's when MC. Night panicked, and shot her in the head and neck. The men then grabbed a machete from Lynn Scott's garage. They stripped the bodies McKnight masturbated over the body of the female victim wasn't prepared for that and Lyn Scott held the limbs while McKnight cut away at the bodies. At one point, McKnight apparently slipped badly cutting, Kenny, Lynn, Scott's arm. The men then loved the torsos to the riverbank and threw them into the Hocking river. Apparently the men washed up in the river and went back to Kenny Lynn, Scott's house. Afterwards. McKnight says he let the body parts li- saying that he left the home at some point and at some point, Kenny Lyn, Scott must have returned to the cornfield and buried the remaining limbs. Investigators withheld a witness report that a man not Johnston, followed the couple into. To the cornfield and then heard gunshots and screams that man that was reported to police back in hundred eighty two was Kenny Lyn Scott, but the caller didn't know Kenny, Lynn, Scott's name, right. This was the lead that should have been followed up on instead of honing in on Dale Johnston on September second, two thousand eight McKnight and Lyn. Scott were both indicted on charges of aggravated murder. McKnight demanded lethal injection to pay for his sins, but later ultimately accepted a pair of life sentences. He will die in prison with the case against him, shaky given mcknight's varying stories. So keep that in mind McKnight was giving multiple stories and confessions. It had been a long time, you know, I it had been over twenty years, right? Lynn, Scott forty, eight years of age at the time, pled guilty to abuse of a corpse and was released from prison after. Only serving ten months. So to put this in perspective, Dale Johnston who killed nobody served a longer sentence in prison for the death of his stepdaughter and her boyfriend then Kenny Lyn, Scott who participated actively and willingly participated in events that led up to the murder and led to the concealment of the murders right Johnston served more time than this guy. He lost everything and then Kenny Lyn, Scott, it's ten months. And both these killers actually remained free after killing these two young people longer than the victims lived on this planet. It's a sad, sad set of circumstances, but just because there's a rest and this case, that doesn't mean there's Justice, right? They're they're actually feels like there was no Justice in this case. Now, Kenneth, Robert Lyn Scott. Lot of Logan, Ohio passed away on Monday, November twenty. Fifth, two thousand thirteen at the age of fifty two. Do you have any recommended reading for us this week? You know that I do captain this week. We are recommending the acid king by Jesse p Pollock very, very exciting stuff. Captain. I cannot lie though. I have not actually read this book because it just came out yesterday, but I have ordered my copy and Jesse is a great author and a good friend of our show. We've had him on before the captain had him join the captain on our other great show off the record, and the acid king is about a murder in a small town that local police in the international press dubbed a satanic sacrifice. The short of it for teens went into the woods and only three came out the long of it, the murder became the subject of several popular songs and TV specials. Addressing the issue of whether or not American teens were practising satanism and debating the symbolism in songs by ACDC and Ozzy Osbourne. So make sure you check out the acid king and support our buddy. Jesse p Pollock and thanks to all of you for supporting the garage until next week. Be good, be kind and don't let.

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 Reopening Americas healthcare system

Pro Rata

11:09 min | 4 months ago

Reopening Americas healthcare system

"What we just ten minutes to get smarter on the business politics sponsored by Bridge Bank be safe venture wisely. I'm Deborah Mac. Today show restaurants. Ask for more time and what. Disney just lost to tick tock the first reopening America's healthcare system. So okay. I get that title. Might be a little bit confusing given that we have spent the past two months talking about hospitals being surge capacity and parking lots becoming makeshift testing facilities but overall American healthcare service rates have fallen through the floor. Or maybe even through the foundation remember. Lots of hospitals stopped all elective procedures in order to preserve bedspace for covert nineteen patients which led to massive drops and things like joint replacement surgeries and lots of other medical facilities like clinics and specialty practices have either closed or severely limited their offerings including in such areas as pediatrics ophthalmology and dermatology and none of that even includes all the paused clinical trials for non. Cova drugs many of which require regular patient visits and monitoring why it matters for patients of course is that they haven't gotten treatment which could lead to increased troubles and costs down the road why it matters for healthcare as a whole is that elective procedures are. Greece's it's wheels which is why we had this bizarre dichotomy of overworked frontline workers on one hand and scores of laid off healthcare workers on the other more specifically the most recent monthly jobs report showed a one point four million losses in the healthcare sector including around two hundred and fifty thousand physicians. The bottom line things are beginning to open up including medical and dental facilities. But there are questions as to how fast that can happen. And what might have been lost for good in twenty seconds will go deeper with healthcare reporter? Bob Herman but I. This Bridge Bank knows the INS and outs of business. Ups and downs and remains dedicated to providing financial solutions to sponsor backed emerging technology and growth companies for nearly two decades through its national network of banking teams and offices in tech hubs across the country including San Francisco Seattle Denver Chicago and Boston Visit Bridge Bank Dot Com to learn more bridge. Bank is a division of Western Alliance Bank Bridge Bank. Be Safe Venture wisely. We're joined now by axios healthcare reporter Bob Herman so Bob let's start here with this decrease in elective procedures of how universal it's been so for example if I'm someone who's been trying to get a knee replacement surgery over the last couple months. Have I been able to? Is it a question of where I live or question of money? So if you're trying to get an Easter since the pandemic started it's very likely it got pound hostels basically all but stopped them. And what's so interesting about healthcare? Is we always figured? It was recession proof but it turns out that it probably is little recession proof but is not pandemic proof because hospitals head to basically stop all these things to prepare for the corona virus and as you mentioned the knee replacements is the most extreme example. But it's really across the board. You look at pretty much. Every service line cardiology spine ophthalmology. There's no service that has been spared here. The original argument for wildlife procedures. Were stopped was capacity right. You know you don't WanNa take a bed for somebody who is convalescing from a knee replacement when you might need that bed for Corona Virus Patient. That said as things begin to open up. Is there an expectation that all of these kind of backed up procedures? These people are just going to flock back in or is there serious concern? The folks will still stay away because these often are facilities that either already have corona virus patients or just general concerns about the lack of social distance that occurs when there's a surgery or when there is a face to face physician meeting for hospitals. At least they are kind of hoping and praying that the demand surges back because a lot of these procedures that have stopped or their big moneymakers like orthopedic procedures or spine or hearts so while they're hoping that there's this surge now that's the current events at least from hospitalization point appears to have crested at least in some states is actually less clear from people. I spoke with. There's still a fear among patients especially if it's something that they don't need immediately if there's some kind of carpal tunnel surgery that they've been meaning to get to but still don't really WanNa do they still might hold off until there's some kind of clear evidence that this is truly under control so while there's a hope that this will come back for hospitals. It's far from guaranteed and it certainly seems like at least some of the demand certainly won't come back this year. You talked about the hospital capacity. You had a great piece over the weekend about ten following hospitalization rates including some of the hardest hit states hospitalization rates from Cova. I'm wondering though there's obviously a pretty persistent fear that estate start to open up peaches and parks in retail and possibly even restaurants that you could start to get at least select outbreaks in various places given that are hospitals comfortable. Basically reducing that surge capacity given the concern. They might need it again. They're kind of a catch twenty two right because they WANNA be prepared if there is another surge of Toronto Virus Cases. That was the whole point of this but at the same time. They're just not getting revenue right now especially the smaller hospitals Hostels at treats traditionally poorer patients. They are on the bleeding edge right now. So they're at this catchweight. Were they want to be able to be prepared but they need money to come in the doors? They want to keep their staff around so I spoke with a CEO of a hospital Vermont. Vermont hasn't been terribly hard hit. They've been very aggressive with social distancing up there and he told me like we're prepared but we really kind of need to start scheduling some of these electric disease again because they're not getting as much funding from the federal government has other hospitals so they kinda need some of these patients to come back if they want to at least not start laying off or furloughing staff. Let's leave the hospitals aside for second or step away from them and talking about the specialist clinics a lot of people who go to the doctor even for outpatient procedures. Don't go to a hospital per se they go to a smaller sort of facility. Is the expectation that does including small. Urgent cares is the expectation that those will start to open up more and more and is there reason to believe people will be more comfortable going to those. It's interesting so outpatient care. It's probably even more at risk. And the volumes that have gone down are even more severe. If you look at family doctors pediatricians from what I'm hearing. Some of those volumes have declined almost by ninety percents year over year. They're essentially just treading water with no revenue coming in and it's still the same dynamic right like if you are sick do go in. Maybe do you go in for your cardiac checkup in an office? Maybe but maybe you just via telehealth telehealth granted you. Don't get the money off of procedures like you know K. G. at least the appointment revenue. Correct correct you do and with telehealth. It's not always being paid at the same level as an in person visit some insurers are trying to level it out again any kind of telehealth revenue is not going to be made up from what they would have gotten from an in person visit but one other piece of this which is dental and we don't think necessarily have dental all the time we have healthcare but when you look at the jobs numbers from April I think there was like half a million of the job losses were in the dental sector. Are Dentists offices going to reopen and from your perspective today suffer potentially suffer from the same issues that the pediatrician's offices in those smaller outpatient specialist providers suffer from outside of again emergency dental procedures? Did it seems like it's the same dynamic. It's funny. I just got an alert from my dentist kind of pleading with me to come back sometime in October. I'm not totally sure I want to do that. And if you think about the most elective of elective you probably don't need to get your teeth cleaned at your six month mark when it comes everything else. It's not the most urgent so dentist's office have absolute taking the brunt of this. Because it's just not totally necessary in light of the pandemic and for those offices interesting layoffs as you mentioned and even wonder if and I wrote about this as well. If they're the type of practice that will have to consider selling well in one area that has been very interested in dental is private equity. So you kind of wonder if that trend will accelerate bob just very quickly because we're almost out of time in a separate topic. But since I have you here Madeira. Which is the drug company that got a Cova vaccine into clinic? I yesterday released fairly encouraging albeit not completely complete phase. One clinical trial data. It helped the stock. Market's go nuts your initial reaction when you saw what. Madera now released in some ways. This was kind of expected right. This is a phase one trial. This is the very first trial mostly focused on just testing whether the vaccine is safe and by those measures. It certainly encouraging. Nobody's dying. There's no life threatening adverse events associated with it yet on the other hand. It's a very early interpretation of the data we're talking about really a subset of patients that were looked at. It's kind of insane that the stock market went wild as it did. Considering this kind of expected in there's still so long to go the pivotal phase. Three trial is going to start sometime over the summer. That's where it's GonNa matter most so the stock market reaction is totally wild. Bob Herman who you can follow at Bob Jay on twitter. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me Dan. My final two. Right after this with offices in check-ups throughout the country including San Francisco Denver Chicago and Boston Bridge Bank supports the innovation ecosystem wherever it thrives in helps breakthrough ideas actually break through and through. Its teams focused on technology and life sciences companies and the equity investors fuel. Them Bridge Bank delivers a responsive. High Touch Client Experience Bridge Bank. A DIVISION OF WESTERN ALLIANCE BANK BRIDGE BANK BE SAFE venture wisely. Now it's time for my final two and I up as America's beleaguered and largely shuttered restaurant sector a big group of restaurant owners and CEOS yesterday met at the White House and over and over asked for just one thing and extension of the so-called covered period for paycheck protection program loans from eight weeks to twenty four weeks. Their basic argument was that in many cases there be forced to use or lose the loans before all of the restaurants can fully open which helps defeat the purpose to be clear. They weren't asking for more money just for more time. What was remarkable about meeting also was how the restaurant tours? Whether trump house are not kept redirecting the conversation back to this covered period issue even when trump himself tried to pivot to things like meal deductability or payroll tax cuts policies. That one restaurant. Ceo likened to useful additions to a house but only after the actual scaffolding is. I erected. Don't be surprised to see this issue emerged today. When Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin testified in front of the Senate Banking Committee and Finally Tick Tock yesterday. Stunned the tech and entertainment world's poaching Kevin Meyer to be its new. Ceo Mired spent the last twenty seven years at Disney including overseeing the launch of its Disney plus streaming unit had been at one time viewed as the likely successor to CEO. Bob Eiger why it matters is that I. This is a very big name. Higher for a social media upstart now has hundreds of millions of users but perhaps more importantly Meyer is a known you ask tech n media commodity at a time when Tick Tock is trying to prove its independence from Beijing. At least when it comes to privacy despite its ownership by Chinese tech giant bite dance where Meyer will also now serve as C. O. And we're done big. Thanks for listening to my producers Tim Chauffeur's Naomi Shaven have a great national devil's Food Cake Day. And we'll be back tomorrow with another pro rata podcast.

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Wall Street Breakfast February 26: Market Attempts Rebound After Monster Selloff

Wall Street Breakfast

08:01 min | 7 months ago

Wall Street Breakfast February 26: Market Attempts Rebound After Monster Selloff

"Welcome to ski health as Wall Street breakfast. Your daily source of market news and analysis subscribe to this podcast on Apple podcasts. Gulag casts specified and stitcher. Good Morning. Today is Wednesday February twenty sixth. And I'm your host. Steve Brown Wall Street breakfast is brought to you. By seeking out the premium unlocked the power of seeking Alpha through our articles data and advanced tools. Try it today. At seeking out the DOT com slash premium. Our top stories today. Marc attempts rebound after monster. Selloff too early to tell and handouts parts of Hong Kong stimulus leading. Today's news the Global Equity. Selloff is intensifying as the CDC warned the corona virus is likely to spread across the US amid increasing deaths and confirmed cases outside of China notably in Italy Iran Japan and South Korea while it's hard to quantify the economic impact of the virus. Investors are pricing in a slowdown in global growth as a sea of red flashed across trading screens in Europe and Asia overnight. Nearly six point three percent and an estimated one point seven trillion and value has also been wiped off the p five hundred over the last two days and US futures are pointing to another decline of about point five percent at the open with oil under fifty dollars per barrel gold up one thousand six hundred fifty one dollars. An ounce in other news reinforcing other central bank officials recent comments fed vice chairman. Richard Clarita said the central bank is keeping a close eye on how corona virus will affect the global and US economies. The outbreak luckily to have a noticeable impact on Chinese growth. He said at a speech in Washington DC The disruption there could spill over to the rest of the global economy so far he sees no need to change the Fed's current monetary policy which he feels is in a good place and should continue to support sustained growth and inflation returning to the feds. Two percents target Hong Kong has announced that one hundred twenty billion Hong Kong dollars or fifteen point. Four billion dollars worth of measures to support an economy that's been dragged down by political unrest and the new corona virus outbreak. One of the notable features is a payment of ten thousand Hong Kong dollars or one thousand two hundred eighty four dollars to each permanent resident of the city age eighteen or older aiding the population overwhelmed by heavy atmosphere. Financial Secretary. Paul Chen estimated. The deficit will reach an all time high of one hundred thirty nine point. One Billion Hong Kong dollars in Twenty Twenty Twenty. Twenty one and also flagged deficits for the next five years in a shock announcement late Tuesday. Bob Iger stepped aside as Walt Disney's chief executive officer handing the reins of the world's biggest entertainment company to theme parks head. Bob Shape while Agar will stay to direct the company's creative endeavors as Executive Chairman. Through two thousand twenty one. The News Confused Wall Street. Sending the shares down three point six percent Disney's future is supposed to be streaming not theme parks and media industry insiders almost unanimously expected streaming. Chief Kevin Meyer to be either successor. Keith block became co CEO alongside salesforce head. Mark Benny off less than two years ago. Though he's stepping down now block was widely seen as a potential heir to who founded the company in Nineteen Ninety nine and we'll continue as chairman as well as reporting for results that beat expectations. Salesforce said it would acquire cloud and mobile software company boss for one point thirty three billion in cash adding additional muscle to its cloud suite of Products Virgin Galactic for net loss widened seventy-three million from a year ago loss of forty six billion in the space companies first results as a publicly traded company. The space I said it received seven thousand nine hundred fifty seven registrations of interest in flight reservations during the quarter and we'll begin collecting thousand dollar deposits to secure a place in line seats become available while virgin galactic didn't offer any updates on its space flight timetable. It previously said it aimed for a first commercial flight later this year with Richard Branson on board virgin. Galactic is down six percent pre-market. It's the first time starbucks. The world's biggest coffee chain will offer an imitation meat product. The beyond Meat Sandwich. Which will be talked with? Cheddar cheese and egg on an artisanal. Bunn will be available at starbucks. Nearly twelve hundred copy shops across Canada on March third it comes as the company aggressively works to build out its food. Business which currently makes up at least twenty percent of revenue at company operated stores as well as a surge in popularity for alternative proteins looking to position itself in its fight against Amazon. Walmart is launching a new service that allows third party vendors to hire the big bucks retailer to store pack and ship items both sellers low storage and shipping bees and customers brand choice and easier returns will benefit from the new service. According to the company Walmart's online sales grew by thirty seven percent last year topping. Its own internal growth targets of thirty five percent. Panasonic plans to exit solar cell production Gigi New York. Though Tesla has informed the state you will have no bearing on its current operations. The firm has already secured over fifteen hundred jobs in the city of Buffalo clearing out. It's one thousand four hundred sixty commitment before April and thereby avoiding a forty one million dollar penalty the withdrawal puts a spotlight on Tesla solar business but also comes as the company diversifies its battery supplies to include South Korea's LG. Kim and China's Contemporary Emperor Takes Technology Panasonic will reportedly retain its battery. Jv With Tesla in Nevada streaming accounted for eighty percent of recorded music sales in twenty nineteen marking. The industry's fourth consecutive year of growth. According to a report from the Recording Industry Association of America in fact with revenue of eight point eight billion in two thousand nineteen streaming alone was large the entire. Us recorded music market in two thousand seventeen that includes premium subscription services like spotify Apple Music Amazon Music ad-supported on demand services such as Youtube and spotify's ad-supported tier and streaming radio services such as Pandora and Sirius. Xm The EU's Chief. Trade negotiator hopes to broker a mini. Deal with the US before Washington follows through with an increase in punitive tariffs on Europe's aircraft sector. They have given US thirty days of suspension of those tariffs on Airbus products. Which will give us that chance. Hopefully to make some sort of an agreement Phil Hogan declared with political goodwill on both sides can do a lot in a short period of time as of six twenty today. Us futures in crude oil are all set to open in the red with gold slightly up on today's economic calendar new home sales are out at ten am eastern. Time Wall Street. Breakfast is brought to you. By seeking Alpha premium. 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Apple should buy Warby Parker  Walmart & Microsoft might adopt TikTok. Warby Parker hits $3B. Amazons 1st fitness gadget.

Snacks Daily

19:22 min | 3 weeks ago

Apple should buy Warby Parker Walmart & Microsoft might adopt TikTok. Warby Parker hits $3B. Amazons 1st fitness gadget.

"This is Nick, this Jack and this is snacks daily. It is Friday August twenty eighth smackers fires are still raging in northern California. We got ourselves a category four hurricane hitting the Gulf coast. The entire NBA just made a bold statement in support of black lives matter Jacqueline are putting the pod like lots of heaviness right now, that is not financial news. So what it is our pleasure our honor to still make this a teaboy before the weekend for the best one yet, we're thinking east knackers check for story. What do we got for everyone? Take talk has more news than the rest of the market combined Dizzy Tic Tac guy became CEO resigned Oracle wants to buy half the company but also Walmart and Microsoft want to be the new mom and dad of Tiktok we're going to focus on that part of the story our second story Amazon just shocked everyone with a new product that makes Alexa. Look antisocial this halo thinks straps to your body judges your voice and then demand lose weight sounds fun no joke about third and final story Jack Nick throw another horn on the year they. got a Unicorn of the day war. Be Parker just hit a fresh three billion dollar valuation. Super Clear. Now Nick before we hit those stories it feels funny talking about this because it's like ninety two degrees in New York City and California one second Jack There's a third person in the room with us it's humidity but we just got a big update about this ski season. which is coming up as early. November, you know Jack knifed tracks, stocks. Vail resorts is the publicly traded company that gives you exposure to fresh. She's or is cookies depending on the conditions for some reason, this company's ticker symbol isn't ski now, but it's also the least expensive part of skiing is Vail resorts actual stock we're talking about a company that went full send downward hidden in. March as all resort shutdown aggressively right. So their business was in jeopardy with covid. So they spent the entire summer coming up with a plan to how to reopen this fall. Well Jack and I are proud to announce to you skiing. It sounds like is going to happen this winter with a few adjustments. Well, first of all, you literally have to wear a mask to ski the. Good thing here helmet plus a gay or plus a Parka. Hood is like an ninety five plus mask. Okay. The second rule only two people are allowed per chair left in all of our resorts resort mind the gap and lower the safety bar, No more awkward small talk, which is the one plus third you need to make a reservation before you can even shop at the Mount. Mount Snow got dumped on last night. So let's bomb on over to Dover Jack You need to make sure there's room because of distancing feels a little more like Disney world. Now, not integrate the fourth and final update we got for you yet can't dump the kids off at ski school this winter. Well, you can if you're one of the first six but after that, you better get like a baby bjorn backpack because you're the kid in the back guess what skiing more expensive that's the takeaway. Let's three stories. Daily. Get some. Rain Food said Candy, they don't reflect the views of her family is. Just so NAPB recommended securities, it's not a research report or investment advice NATTA offer or sale of a security. Nexus digestible business news video. Financial LLC member favors less SIPC. For our first story the same day that Tiktok CEO resigned Walmart confirmed it's trying to acquire take talk that's right Nick Walmart plus Microsoft. Plus Tick Tock is a real thing and it could take on facebook and Amazon is so first the news here we saw Jack and I wake up and boom of tiktok been on the job three months out done not lincoln anymore boom. First thing we saw we're talking Kevin Meyer, who looks like an active NFL linebacker by the West. Jack. We say thighs like a Bronco. Kevin Meyer was at Disney for twenty seven years. He climbed all the way up to number two glows then got passed over for the job. We're talking about a guy who's got a bad case of the I WANNA be a global tech company. Syndrome. No vaccine for that yet. So he took on the job at Thais but now the trump administration is forcing tick tock to sell away from its Chinese owner out of national security. Concern is looking at this his foot itching he's like I'm a lame. Duck what am I going to do? He's already moving. He's one of those guys who's already rich because twenty seven years of Disney shares, and now he's just looking for a position with lots of power, which is not the lame duck CEO of Tiktok Jack and I were shocked. We call each other crazy news this morning wild breakfast after breakfast got kicked up a notch Walmart says it's joining the TIKTOK sweepstakes and we get an associate to check the price for Tiktok because I think data. Walmart price range. I'll took talk by the solely. As a reminder, the weekend that trump threatened to ban TIKTOK in the United States Microsoft immediately publicly acknowledged their interest in acquiring tiktok. So now Walmart wants to partner with Microsoft in a joint bid because twos better than one apparently right Walmart is in this isn't just some PF WTI phone Walmart confirmed yesterday they're interested in acquiring TIKTOK and Walmart stock ended up Jumping five percent yesterday because one hundred, million Americans use TIKTOK every single month. Yeah. Also Walmart acquiring tiktok is just objectively exciting news. How can investors not push up the stock? Honestly most exciting things since they made their tube socks 392 sneakers think about it. If warmer controls tick tock a social media powerhouse and you add in Microsoft's Big Tech Muscle then they make. TIKTOK and ECOMMERCE power equity thinking on this visually, this is like Batman and superman like asking hands and agreeing to fight the joker together. Whole thing is brokered by cat woman that's like a beautiful image. Now, instagram's knackers is already becoming an ECOMMERCE giant. It's pretty much the digital shopping mall that we swipe through in our spare time everyday tiktok is not but could. Become the same thing powered by Walmart. Maybe Walmart makes it super easy to by Walmart things just by tapping a tick. Tock Tic TAC and Jack Tacconi about the other day how they're launching a ninety eight dollars a year. Amazon prime rival over at Walmart I. Think it's called Walmart plus it's coming out soon and maybe purchases that originate on tiktok there Walmart plus. Maybe. Their tempers, maybe their free shipping maybe they start paying you. But before you get too excited to knackers, we should point out or called like the random software company is the other serious bidder for Tiktok in a final decision is due next week. Maybe Oracle's should call up target and offer to be mother and father of Tiktok like Microsoft or Walmart sounds like the right Combo Jack the takeaway for buddies over a tick tock this could kill two tech giants with one stone niggers jagged I rooted for Walmart and Microsoft to win that Tick Tock sweepstakes that forty times fast. Because it could be a huge win for competition. Two of the tech giant's have effectively monopolies and don't want Walmart and Microsoft to win this sweepstakes or buddies over at facebook. They know that tick tock is the only threat to their social media dominant even suck in these guys and with Microsoft and Walmart as. Tick Tock would be an even bigger and stronger threat to facebook Yak. Let's head a little northeast over to puget sound Amazon knows Walmart is the only threat to its ECOMMERCE Dahmer and with Walmart in control of Tiktok, Walmart would be an even bigger stronger threat knackers. The simple fact that facebook and Amazon probably don't want Walmart and Microsoft to win means one single thing it means society in our economy probably should want Walmart and Microsoft to win four our second story. This one's wild Amazon just unveiled a surprise new totally different product. We'd never even had any idea that we're building. It's called Halo which happens to be my favorite song, but it's also the most. Intimate and discreet health tracker. We've ever seen honestly Jack and I looked at this thing we're going to Cairo to its knackers the look. Jack what are we looking at? It's pretty much an apple watch nick but no screen was just this band with a barely noticeable sensor on the inside of the band. It's essentially a high performance scrunchy. They poked a few holes and stick. It's Sporty. Now you're supposed to strap this thing your risk, but there's no screen. So it's Kinda weird. Oh. Amazon claims that's because it will focus on your health only it won't distract you with the screen of course that you can focus on your life. It's like mindful level twelve amazing now. Amazon tends to be like low prices. This things only ninety nine bucks, but hold your horses available invite only to Amazon VIP's right now and they uses they seem pretty standard I. You got your motion tracking your heart rate your sleep, and then you get this. Thing going on Jack Yeah I mean it's it's all about fitness and health neck. So if you're sitting for too long, they're gonNA dock you points unlike your health score step on the scale step off the scale. Yes it sounds like Ben Stiller in heavyweight. What's knackers? There were two wild features Jack and I noticed that make it feel like Alexa is an invisible friend stocking this is Amazon product strap around your wrist that also has ears. It's listening to your voice and then analyzing your emotions. For instance, if you have an argument with your two o'clock phone call with Ron, it makes sense anxiety and you're going to get a push. Notification on the Halo App on your phone Hey Jack. Forget about that meeting. Why don't you take a C. Give yourself five minutes with the relaxed meditation we whipped up for you seriously it's going to be your friend to like help you cool down in handle your emotion Oh and just because I love tracking stuff when you look in the Amazon App, it's going to say from two PM to two thirty PM Jack. was disturbed. Judgmental. Please I don't like those labels. Feels judgy feels like an aggressive life partner. Okay. So it has years but it also has eyeballs. Yeah. Using the HALO APP on your phone, it takes four pictures of your body from all sides of your body. It's GonNa ask if it can take pictures of your body and if you do, it's GonNa, ask you to like get down. To just your skivvies and take pictures so that it can scan your curve can estimate the body fat percentage on your frame unclear if you're getting all the way down to the boxers or briefs situation, but either way it's looking at the whole thing. Yeah. It's like Sir see in the Atonement episode when she's walking like from the church to the red key shame basis of young. Shame. The inevitable question for any new device from Google facebook Amazon that has a camera or microphone. You know it's coming. How's this going to affect my personal privacy? So Amazon says every feature is opting it's easy to turn off. It's easy to delete data. They're not going to sell your products based on anything. You know all that stuff Amazon's pretty much like that conversation with Ron that got heated at two o'clock it's between you us and us so jack what's the takeaway for our buddies over Amazon's Halo Amazon is missing a twenty four seven product that sits on your person. Can we all agree that on your person is our favorite phase APP? It's a gray underused technical legalese. You got fitness wearables that's dominated by apple watch and Google Fit Yup. Google and apple get to hang out with you every day gathering data on your physical activity day in. It's fun but it's creepy phones. Amazon is like riding the bench on this their fire phone was their biggest product failure ever once again, apple and Google are the. Winners here they're tracking your location, your steps, your calories from your phone sitting in your pocket all day everyday Jeff bezos loves that you're a primer paying that annual fee but you're in the Amazon APP for like a few minutes a day if that. But if halo goes mainstream Amazon's GonNa have the data on Amazon's the other twenty three hours a day when you're not shopping. For our third and final story. I haven't trouble trouble seeing this over here. Nick you lost your Wabi Parker frames worby parker just hit a three billion dollar valuation nat too shabby are Unicorn of the day snacker is and we're covering this because we all know you've splurge the two hundred and fifty bucks on some ray bands for that top gun luck guilty did it when I was twenty three? Did it when I was twenty six did it when I was twenty eight guys loves Tom Cruise what can we say the thing is ray bans are created by a company called Luxottica which either makes them in Italy for twenty bucks a pair or China for Like two bucks a pair then they sell those two or twenty dollars sunglasses to Lenscrafters Sunglass hut were they. They knock a all up one hundred bucks and then you finally get those twenty or two dollar glasses for two hundred dollars because of all those layers of separation, the four co founders of Worby Parker Walk in the room, and they're like, wait a second tune people in here we're GONNA cut out a few middleman. Let's go direct to consumer. We've talked about Harry's razors and Casper mattresses on this pod before Worby Parker is the War v Parker direct to consumer at the first millennial brand to literally destroy the middleman. The middleman with a really gorgeous website or store. That is so pleasant. Yes. Take like a first date out to first at night. Your third definite kick things off at this now snacker is this company was founded in two thousand, ten in lovely Philadelphia selling direct to consumer from their headquarters out of their business school apartment on Walnut. Street they've found a really nice balance really fast by being online and being offline with standard eyeglass frames sold. That a uniform price. So interesting bouncier the online you select five gorgeous frames they mailed to you keep one you return for offline. There's one, hundred, twenty, five, different worby Parker stores. You probably seen them. If you've got any upscale neighborhood in any city, you walk in and it's comforting like a library designed by Wes Anderson and some worby Parker Barista with perfectsmiles can approach you and say, Valencia, frames your face perfectly you have to buy them. Touching your face you stay in the store you stay in the store actually a free phase massage. Yeah. Profitable companies 2017 seventeen despite the massages and this valuation they just hit shows that there are thriving Kobe because it doubled this saying no deadbeat Unicorn like we work nick, it is proffered glasses are a necessity pandemic or not now with Nick and I find particularly interesting about why re Parker is the pricing. Is case study in price psychology 'cause every frame starts at ninety five dollars has when this company was created by the original entrepreneurs, they priced the frames at forty five dollars, but then these spoke to a Wharton School of business professor who's like guys forty five bucks that is just too cheap. People are GonNA think they're crap frames, and by the way they retell the story, every single ward and Class B can attest to that. So. Then Co founder professor what if we did sixty or seventy dollars feels kind of arbitrary sixty or seventy like what is that professor? What have we one hundred bucks? If you go to one hundred, it's GonNa. Look at the same prices. Those'll exotic a two hundred dollar professor would if we dropped down to ninety nine dollars, you're not QVC. This isn't like four easy payments of ninety, nine, ninety, nine professor. What if we go like ninety two dollars ninety two dollars sounds like it was precisely optimized by an Amazon rhythm to make Jeff Jet Rich Kinda does professor what if we do ninety five dollars a frame make that actually sounds justice. It's not too low and not too high kind of LEGIT WE GOTTA goldilocks scenario is how we parker ended up at ninety dollars. Ironically, this is the same exact strategy as all birds shoes, which are also ninety five dollars advised by the same Professor Same Years Award. So Jack. What's the takeaway for buddies over at war Parker apple should acquire war Parker smackers we'll let that sink in. Apple has bot consumer brands before at critical moments and at similar values remember beats headphones by Dr Drag made Dr, Dre a billionaire how can we forget? He's probably listening to the snacks right now apple acquired beats by Dr Dre in two twenty, thirteen for three billion dollars, which is the same price that worby. Parker. would be right now owned by the waste Akers Jack and I noticed that was three years before apple unveiled air pods and what is apple probably going to unveil in about three years now they`ve Hinted it would be augmented reality glasses and what's in affordable fancy eyeglasses brands that customers love our good friends over at war be Parker digital I wore be parker would give apple the physical an online store presence for prescription augmented reality glasses apple should buy Worby Jack Kenya whip up the takeaways force before the weekend. Please nick if Walmart can make an offer with Microsoft or Tiktok I. Think you and I should make an offer to acquire DICTA smackers. We got one condition this it's gotta be renamed Nick Jack. Seconds, Dr Amazon's latest world device has eyes and ears. It's priced cheap because Amazon wants to be on your person third and files Wabi Parker envisions a world where you buy everything directly from the seller for ninety five dollars jacket visiting a world in which apple acquires worby Parker from more than ninety five dollars. The. Snack back today this one tweeted by Don Burger who is in a camper somewhere in the world right now we couldn't tell Don Burger points out that there's a thing in the world called a dark sky reserve, which is a place where lights are banned. So you can see this is perfectly at night turns out. There's a great one in Idaho and they're only sixteen of these things worldwide light pollution man light pollution now before you go for the Weekends knackers, Machel Jackson our friends who snack together which we love. 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How the TikTok ban would affect the influencer economy

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How the TikTok ban would affect the influencer economy

"The. Ads are everywhere on the Internet sometimes they're useful. Occasionally they're fun. But mostly they're just in the way scroll lets you read sites like the verge and hundreds of others without ads or third party trackers. Scroll Distributes your memberships to the sites. You Love See you can support the journalism and content that matters ad free the virgin own bone called scroll a quotes hellacious hack. See what he means by signing up for a thirty day free trial at scroll dot com slash verge cast that scroll dot com slash verge cast. Life from the verge cast in this week's in episode Taylor Lawrence the excellent reporter for the New York Times joins me to talk about Tiktok just before we recorded this episode trumpet issue, his Executive Orders Banning Tiktok, and we chat and forty five days September twentieth we talked about that a bunch as you would expect but I really wanted to talk about the entire influence or. Economy, that's what she covers. That's what our creators desk covers. I have to ask as secret business section, but there is an entire ecosystem of companies law firms of agencies of huge talent agencies that have built up around influencers in creators, platforms, Tiktok, instagram I wanted to unpack that with. Taylor. So people can have a sense of just how big that ecosystem is big that economy. Is How intertwined it is into the art entertainment and advertising industries. I. Think People Think of tiktok teenagers dancing, but it is an absolute force in the entertainment and media ecosystem. Taylor. Is heard from lot of the. So I wanted to you'll hear us we talked about how big that ecosystem is and how it works. Before we got into the TIKTOK ban, it's undercover and it's Not, something people are talking about as much as the mechanics of the national security debate or how trump might bannon. APP. But it's I. Think it's really important to understand the scale and the impact that the band might have on that economy on the influence rico system and is honestly no better to talk about it. Then Taylor. So check it out Taylor Lorenzo the, New York Times. Terror Lawrence walking adverse cast. Thanks for having me you are reports near time see cover influencers the influence our economy, which is what I won't talk to you about but I asked you on the show to talk about Tiktok a while ago like several days ago and I said we should do this as late as possible before we publish because something else will happen with Tiktok and Lo and behold last night according to some Friday last night Thursday night very late the trump administration issued two executive orders one banning all transactions with Tiktok in forty five days, which is September twentieth in the other we chat. Benny. All transactions we chat and we chats parent company ten, cent which owns. Stakes everything from spotify they own all of League of legends they on forty percent of fortnight on religion epic games I want to talk to you about Tiktok. But that all happened what has been the response from sort of the influence or community to that I feel like I should just ask you from the job. Yeah. Well, it's been a roller coaster for them. Maybe to a bunch of people last night because you know earlier this week, it seemed like it was going to be fine like a lot of them were told at trump said even last week that the ban could come as soon as last Saturday and when when that didn't happen. The kind of thought they were all good again, and now they're scrambling it's literally thrown huge swath of the entertainment industry into arrears I mean we saw Forbes released their list of top earning talkers, yesterday, and including people like Charlie, Milio, Addison, Ray, all of these kind of young Internet stars and they're making millions and so you know. All of that money that they're making his in jeopardy all of these big brand campaigns that American Eagle. Other brands are doing in jeopardy The music industry is obviously scrambling. So it's it's a mess. Yeah. I. Want to come back to that thing in the moment but I wanted to the reason I wanted to have you on is I think the influence, our economy, those millions of dollars that you just talked about this kind of not well understood. And you do a great job of covering it. I think I've told you like your coverage has definitely been an influence on our coverage. I think of our creators is a secret business section on the verge like that's bundle mentally what it is it's our. It's our teenage millionaire section like it's a business desk, not really like a memes desk but just to give even that even some context, your personal reporting history has twists and turns the kind of led you here. Can you give people just a sense? Of that because you started as like like a strategist, a digital strategist and you've ended up covering platforms and the money gets made on them, I see a pretty clear through line there. Yeah, I. Mean I've always been really obsessed with these platforms I, mean I graduated over a decade ago now into the recession and got on Tumbler and which I very quickly built some popular blogs on Tumbler, and that was my entry into social media world and yeah, I worked as a as strategist basically helping social media. Brands like household names like Bud light kind of navigate the social media world. This was before branch twitter was even a thing facebook just rolled out brand pages in like two thousand nine. So I was sort of helping brands build audiences online and I got really fascinated by how these deals were being done on the Internet how people were leveraging audience for themselves and yeah sort of did that and then ended. Up doing the same thing for media companies as a social media director for a while, and then I was always sort of writing on the side and then finally about almost three years ago I switched over and started reading about at fulltime. I think also the equator economy I don't think it was truly a beat until that time the way that it is now I think the real money started pouring in. Maybe Post Twenty sixteen. Yeah. It started pouring in first to youtube and then to instagram in a really serious way in the now Tiktok and that's let's start at the basic. So you mentioned Charlie demilio making millions of dollars Tiktok doesn't pay her right I mean we know that like instagram and facebook we'll just pay people to be on instagram and facebook youtube. In various ways we'll pay youtubers to be on you to Tiktok doesn't have that yet. Right how does how do you make money as a Tiktok? Talk Digits launch a Creator Fund. So they are going to be giving grants to certain popular creators in terms of direct. They're going to be paying them directly but no the popular creators all make money through basically ad deals and selling birch, and sometimes different APP download things were they. You have a Lincoln Bio and they get a certain amount of money, but they also can make money through live streams. So you can give kind of like digital gifts that people can then convert the money. So all of those ways are sort of the main ways that they monetize I would say brand deals and direct station through things like March or kind of the main ways that they're making these millions, and there's there's got to be like a secondary economy of firms and agencies. How. Are they affected by something like trump saying? They're just middlemen right there's taking a cut like they've got to be freaking out I. Mean I think that's what people forget. You know people are like, oh ha ha l. all these tiktok scar stars are screwed. Ok Well, there has been this entire. Industry belts around them now. So managers agents, like you mentioned, there are specific lawyers. There are also just video editors, graphic designers, audience development people that work with all of these influencers. stylists, I mean they're entertainers and to kind of wipe out this platform where a lot of entertaining happens is is going to be a hit to economy right next to that right before we started recording, we we reject reels facebook, buy instagram launched reels, which is tucked into instagram and a very confusing way. There is an element of all this, which is like well, it's fine. They'll just go to real, which is a clone of tick looks exactly like Tiktok. is seeing that happen it looks exactly like to talk with literally none of the features. It's the most delusional product I've ever seen. It doesn't have anything that makes to talk compelling I'm if you think about what people have on Tiktok, it's number one really creative video tools which facebook is not offering A lot of the remix is the sound. TIKTOK pioneered this idea of like a sound meam and bites allowing people to chop things up and all these remixes. FACEBOOK has none of that may just have the default of songs that no one really uses and then the most important thing it doesn't have as the discovery mechanism. So the for you page is this incredibly addicting page that you know resources contact from all over the APP shares. Just the most engaging content with you and instagram is horrible at discovery and the explore page now to is impossible to navigate the jammed shopping in there too. It's. So it's really hard to get visibility. Ultimately, instagram is still built on a follow graph, which is just a horrible way to deliver content users. User should have to seek out people on follow them, and I think that's what Tiktok proved. That because instagram was obviously very successful that notion that you have one APP for a follow graph for an interest graph. The idea that they necessarily have to be separate APPS I think what we're learning. Yeah I. think that Instagram is the place where you can go to follow things also instagram has is this personal place where you also follow friends and family and You're using it to communicate whereas I think of I think of Tiktok a little bit more similarly youtube where it's a place for entertainment like going there to just consume content and discover engaging things. kind of watch shows almost sometimes. So I just think to kind of jam that into Instagram is is is going to be hard does it to have a forthcoming? Competitor, talk what's going on there they do and I forgot the name of it youtube is experimenting with more short form video content for a while they launched sort of a stories snapchat stories clone when everyone was doing that and obviously you can post these custos updates on youtube. So I do think that there they were GonNa roll out some feature that is. More kind of called shots. That's IT, right? Yeah. Tremendous. I mean all of these I just think won't be successful unless they can really really clone all of the incredible editing features and the sound library that offers and then deliver it in the compelling way you know as compelling as for you page. So as you've seen kind of the creator economy grow up. The first set of creators it made it big on Youtube. They made all their own deals. They didn't as we've seen some of them didn't have any lawyers like they were pretty Saddam. Is Space. One thing that we haven't seen except for vine, which literally shut down and they move to Youtube, but it's it seems really hard to go from one platform to another and I. Think we we just watching. Ninja. Not Go from twitch to mixer and then he's back and that was such a disaster that mixture shut down. The, far end of disasters is like it went. So badly, the whole platform disappeared why is it so hard for influencers craters to jump from platforms to another one is just what the audience expects from every platform. So the audience the audience goes on Tiktok for a very specific purpose and they're not going on instagram for that same purpose necessarily so that that's Sort of heart is what what audiences kind of like expectations but it's very hard to you know if you are an expert at creating content for one platform and you really understand the culture and the algorithm and the tools to create successful content on there that doesn't mean that you know you can suddenly just hop to another completely different platforms a really steep learning curve. I compared it to sports in a tweet last week and other people have compared made the same comparison but it's like you know if you think of the top NBA players, you can't just suddenly expect them all to succeed in golf for instance or something like that. Yeah. Maybe a few of them. Well, we saw that with vine, right like the talk players the Jake Paul's of the world you know they had enough of an audience and they were they could sort of adapt to this new format. The top talkers are already topped Youtubers, Bryce. Hall Josh. Richards Dimaggio's they're going to be fine. They are going to become an you know potentially the next generation of youtubers but. It's this large swath submit level creators that I think we'll have a really hard time. Do you think that that youtube is just like the final resting place all? Right everything happens in what we end up watching fifteen minute blogs with like multiple mineral ad breaks and many brand integrations and it just because it's longer and it's a sixty-nine rectangle. All the traditional advertising money can flow into it is at just the path. Yeah. I think tiktok disrupted that path but if Tiktok goes away, it will still be there I think that youtube is still the gold standard A. Youtube still pays people directly because you can just put ads on your video and you just don't have that option on on these other platforms and Youtube is just viewed as very safe like you said, they not only has the platform been around forever. The Youtube sort of Creator partner program has been around for a really long time and yes creators constantly have issues with Youtube but they're not going out of business tomorrow you know trump isn't gonna be on Youtube hopefully. That's that's it seems like it's a confidence statement on this day of twenty twenty like I have no idea what he's going to ban tomorrow you mentioned the we talked about me. Twice, now you mentioned Addison Ray who are sort of the top tiktok stars and added they get there? Yeah. There are there are there are these people that succeed in what is called sort of straight TIKTOK, which is basically just mainstream tuck. It's just kind of like the teeny Bopper I young handsome or beautiful people So there's Addison Ray who is part of Hype House Charlie Demilio and then you have a lot of people like Josh. Richards. Now, a back is now kind of New Popular, one Alex Warren Daisy key she's clubhouse. All of these kids are part of these massive collaborative groups in Los Angeles. So they live in these mansions and they kind of with each other and they've created little kind of like a mini reality show, where are they all date each other hang out with each other and it's incredibly compelling for they're very, very young. Audience are HYPO CLUBHOUSE ARE THOSE BUSINESSES Loose affiliations like there was one I remember that from the Youtube days as team ten yes. Right which also exploded into disaster the. into. Disaster let's be clear. None of these houses will survive twenty twenty one. That's my prediction. But yeah. These are this is the generation of kids that grew up watching team ten. So they. Thomas. Patru, the manager of a hype house kind of of Default Manager He's twenty one, but he actually worked for team ten. Prior to this and then the kids in in high house for younger than that. So they kind of these are the ones that grew up watching Jake Paul videos and wanted to live that lifestyle. So when they to la it was like, Hey, where you know how can I live this log life that I've watched not just Jake but David daybreak and all of these people kind of. Living three years. Whether. They're businesses is debatable. It depends how how well they're run some of these houses like the sway houses are run by management companies that take a significant cut and these kids basically go out there and live they pay a highly reduced or no rent because they're basically just doing tiktok videos for brands are creating collective Ip that the management company can monetize hypothesis more a loose affiliation. And then we've seen a bunch of other kind of different types of one mean the phase clan houses also a good example of of this to the face. You see the face to face clancy at least frank who's in charge if as clan theoretically other anyone can be in charge of that eludes me, which is mostly what we talked about. On, and we actually talked about the contracts for awhile and that that first scenario discuss how they work you show up, you don't pay rent you make a bunch of ads effectively you stream all day for them and they take a cut in payback. and. You don't end up owning anything which has led them into all kinds of legal hot water. Like they've been sued by the other face land numbers. This to me is like when you say they're all going to devolve into cast by two thousand, twenty one that seems like the underlying issue here. They're not good at telling people how they make money or what they own or to get to walk away with the audience and I think in a moment we're tiktok might go away. That's going to accelerate is the businesses have to give it I? Think it's GonNa be a mess I think it's you know I don't know we're seeing all of these companies scrambled talent ex is a good example where they've signed basically a hundred tick talkers at this point that. Management Company is built around Tiktok, and if it goes away, they're in trouble. So what they've been doing is doing these exclusive deals with like other APPs trailer. So now, pretty much all the top talent is on thriller they said, they're moving their exclusively of tiktok shuts down, and so I think you're seeing these management companies try to do deals prohibitive deals. With other APPS, there's not a lot of options out there aside from trailer, which is sort of think raising money. So excited to get the hype of some of these talkers, but there's GonNa. Be There's GonNa be a lot of disputes I think soon because you know everyone's about to get screwed. So I mean again it's it's twenty year old millionaires like historically. Twenty year old millionaire set up disputes. That part is pretty normal I think that the part that isn't normal is the reason we're seeing the trump administration or at least the claimed reason the trump administration is going after tiktok there's two parts to it. You actually wrote I, think this story at the Times that accelerated all this, which is about the Tulsa rally. Trump saw that headline and the rhetoric. You can just track the rhetoric heating up after that day it's funny. Some WACKO website yesterday was saying like Taylor has been arguing that this is the response, the Tulsa Rally I have not made that argument in any pieces though I did write the coverage of it. The thing with trump is like, yeah, like we just. have no idea. He doesn't. He doesn't articulate the reasoning I. think definitely like that probably got it on his radar in a in a new way, but it's I. think it's also like the China stuff plays into it. so much as posturing you know against China that's the other part you have this built in reason, which is national security concerns in nationalism concerns with China. To do something like if this organization around the Tulsa Rally happened in on Instagram or youtube, you wouldn't have this card to play. Yeah. Exactly to talk community aware of the national security concerns in the sort of well facebook is banned China so we should ban TIKTOK. In the United States argument I. Mean I think that they are aware that people say there's national security concerns I mean a big joke on Tiktok that no one cares or they're already Pledging allegiance to the Chinese government. That's kind of like a museum. I mean there's just so much activism on Tiktok and there's so much anti-trump sentiment on Tiktok. It's not a platform like facebook that he can just dominate and sort of promote himself with impunity. So I do think that it's a platform that he. He's frustrated that he can't probably he might. He might be frustrated that he can't dominate not way but Yeah I don't think any of the TIKTOK stars really think the national security stuff is is an issue. I mean some of them were saying stuff like that or basically trailer was saying stuff like that trailer has been trying to capitalize on this moment left and right sending all these press releases about how the TIKTOK stars or nervous, and so they're coming to US and I. They're like, no, we don't. We just want to make money. Yeah. So there's trailer. There's bite tabs smash clash. I feel like the only one that has a name that seems like it will do well, stub smash. All the other ones like the names are insane other Biton by dance. That's pretty good. Which one of them is are any of them taking getting any uptake besides which appears deals? Yeah. I'm deb smashes getting a huge uptake. All the cost players win over Dude Smash Smash. Front on Tiktok originates on smash actually a lot of dances and downs or on Nash I and so. I think there's already kind of synergy there. A lot of black creators are also really big on Dub Smash. So I think that's matches in a in a relatively position by I'm not so sure because it's such a different APP and it's it's really a newer APP and it's you know I don't know a lot of people on quote unquote all Tiktok which is more like the vine e esque side of Tiktok kind of the. Lo Fi side you know not just the dancing they're all on bike or they've kind of moved by but clash is another op that is trying to get traction that is actually made by a former viner who created the APP kind of in the wake of mind and has given a bunch of craters equity and is also trying to make the best place where creators can monetize. What is what is the best place for Creator Smart? Well. That to me seems like a kind of competition. It doesn't exist right? Like everyone hates youtube for its modernization rules, but there isn't another platform that's just like youtube that you can make ten percent more money on. It's a weird that that doesn't exist to me I find that very strange. There isn't a version of instagram that is more lucrative for creators. Why does that competition sort of not appear I mean I think these these platforms have always had a very fraught relationship with creators. A lot of have kind of like snapchat for instance, like shunned them actively like this is not the platform for you and then turned around a couple of years later and have a whole creator partnerships team and actively trying to recruit these people. especially I mean snapshots been taking meetings with a bunch of tiktok trying to convince them to all watch discover shows so I think only now are they really realizing the potential of these creators almost I do think that this whole industry was. Written off by platforms aside from Youtube and to lesser extent instagram. But you know it's just hard. You have to have a certain amount of traction to do to attract big brands. That's the other issue. A lot of these platforms are small. So when you know for instance, American, Eagle looks to do a new campaign, some ten million dollar campaign. They need a certain level of scale and these platforms just don't have that scale. So it's hard to offer them her offer creators the same opportunities. Steals look like a lot of it is kind of promotional destroyed permission promotional deal so. You know we're paying you know Addison Ray for instance, two, million dollars to create x amount of TIKTOK. You're also going to create video and photo content for our campaigns that the we can run on our own channels and then you're obligated to post a certain amount of time and maybe where American Eagle at certain events or things like that can kind of depends on the deal exactly what you know what the Creator needs to do, but it's pretty much sponsored content in the craters have teams do that stuff big time agents at UTA and W me and I Feel like posting like. Is there like an army of Addison race social media managers that are running campaign for her? I don't know if Addison Ray has a videographer but have videographers which the videography is basically a content manager that will film and Edit and make sure that the content is delivered on time and then. Presumably the advertisers and the agencies get approval over the content Yeah. So it's a very class. The what I'm building up to is these are media companies fall on media company like as individuals, their media companies, and they're going to scale to become media company whether that looks like hype house or one person supporting any like Oprah. I. Mean if you look at Nelken, which also has gotten a lot of backlash, they're really youtubers but they've been hanging out with all. These talkers somebody was asking me. Well, what are what are they going to be? Are they youtubers? Are they just trying to get like jackass style show I was like I highly doubt I think they're trying to build the next Barstool, which is like they basically build this massive audience online, monetize it through brand deals initially, and then eventually all they all move into launching their own products you know having events merge sometimes direct monetization through things like Patriot, on podcasting but. They're all their own, their complete on media companies, media companies are like the ones we work for are not experiencing the best time in the American economy. Are they buffeted by the same pressures and concerns that you know your your average sort of American media companies I think it's a little bit different. I think a lot of digital media companies monetize. They have a web based presents that they then monetize with ads. These influencers don't have a web based present that they're magnetising ads so they're doing different. The deals are structured differently and they're very dependent on these platforms. The probably more dependent on the platforms than some media companies and that that can be good and bad One is that they have incredibly compelling content that they deliver it to people where they are but they are a lot of them are suffered to the same whims if the advertising industry. So if adds spending his down across the board that is going to hit a lot of creators pretty hard but creators also have more diverse. Monetization Strategies I. Think they're monetization models like a lot of media companies have like events or certain things that they're selling or maybe subscription plan. We have t shirts or T. shirt emails. T shirts very popular just a little plug there. That's awesome I mean that's very like Creator Creator style you gotta get on like Fan. Joy. Can Men. Like these creators, they what they ultimately end up doing is launching products if you look at like Emma. 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I'll be working with the writers and thinkers in the brain trust at the cut to bring you stories about the moment we live in. The first episode of the cut drops on August nineteenth subscribe on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcast. Come back to TIKTOK. What is the company doing? You heard from anybody? WHO works they have fifteen hundred people United States they just hired Kevin Meyer from Disney like I wanted to make sure we laid the foundation of just how big in diverse and quite frankly important like the United States advertising industry the Creator economy has been, but now we're at this moment where. A huge part of it might get pulled away what? What's Tiktok up to an employee's TIKTOK are freaking out a lot of them don't know what's going on. I talked to one who just joined insert advertising role recently, who's also freaking out wondering if she should call up her old employer in try to go back because it's just it's it's very unstable. There's not a lot of faith in Microsoft from a lot of young. People that are there and take Tiktok his committed to, or they previously committed to hiring ten thousand people in the US. So I think those ten thousand job opportunities definitely in jeopardy at this point was I mean I feel like another the answer but wiser, not a lot of faith Microsoft. I think it's not seen as a very great company. People are familiar with skype, which is sort of off fall and other things linked in. You know when you think of Microsoft you don't necessarily think of cool in young even though they do have xbox right exactly and I think they would probably integrate tiktok with that stuff potentially but I think just the perception with young people is like oh my gosh. The big thing that people are worried about is that. Is a potential split. So so much of Tiktok is this global community and a huge part of the culture is riffing off trends which are really like spread throughout the world and so I think if Microsoft only buys the US or Australia part of the business that would that would create this huge rift and I think the way that a lot of tiktok feels like okay. Great. So we're getting cut off from the rest of the world that is going to continue to create amazing content have the best product, and now we're going to be over here silo D- where stuff can only reach a certain threshold. This is trump saying he wants them to buy all of it not just a chunk of it actually. I interpreted trump is saying, I, I don't really know what he was saying you don't know either I think that like neither you the take talkers. So that's I think that's what they're freaking out especially around audience numbers in like are there follower counts GonNa drop if only a portion of it is. What do people talk? Think of Kevin, Meyer the new CEO has he made an impact. Mean that story I think virtuous listeners know Julia, your friends. Julia Alexander are streaming reporter is like all Disney all the time and she is obsessed with Kevin Meyer who ran Disney plus and then Bob Shape Act became the new CEO which is supposed to be Kevin Gay and he like took off and became the CEO of Tiktok which seemed like a great job, and now it's chaos and he's the new guy i. Bought into him. Do they think that can lead through this moment? People Love Vanessa Papua's who is the general manager and I haven't heard that much about Kevin, just because I think he is new most of Tiktok employees that I talk to though are like the more low level people who are doing the the brand deals and working with creators it comes to high level strategy I don't know how he's doing, but I am it must be insane thing to walk into like he definitely took this job not realizing the chaos that would ensue. I feel I don't know though I just want to say one other thing Casey Newton has been like calling like saying tiktok is GonNa get in trouble talking to get To and I was like you're wrong. You're wrong you run, and then finally he wrote this piece kind of being I guess Tiktok is doing great and then All Hell broke loose. That's the way it goes I mean particularly with this administration it's impossible to predict. Yeah. is impossible to predict what they're gonNA do minute to minute a lot of people are saying though I mean, oh Joe Biden and he'll save tiktok whatever job I didn't seem to understand to talk all and there's no evidence that he would even be last harsh on it. I mean I think he who probably wouldn't do something like this but you know he's already banned all of his campaign staff from using talk. So you know I don't it doesn't seem like he's. Willing to go to bat for that either. So there's this previous US governmental response right beyond what happened literally last night with banning it and forcing a sale Microsoft and all that the Pentagon was not allowing tiktok on phones. Government agencies are not allowing TIKTOK. There was this weird moment where Amazon said Amazon employees. And then they send it for some reason. Yeah. Those concerns have been there do they. I mean, just from your perspective, they seem well-founded behind what doctors are saying I mean I. Kind of let the national security folks like speak on that. But you know there is there is absolutely no proof of a lot of things that people are alleging and I think that's the hard thing is that TIKTOK like any Chinese company has a very the Chinese government can sort of traditionally go in and take data or take things that they need, and there's this poorest relationship there. But TIKTOK has been super super adamant that that doesn't happen data's stored domestically. Would never you know work with the Chinese government there is some indication that. They've made good faith efforts around that. For instance, they pulled out of Hong Kong when China took over Hong, Kong. So I, think you know I think that a lot of this is just a politically expedient talking point my colleague Kevin. Roose read about this but you know these people that suddenly seem to care so much about data privacy you know where were They when Mark Zuckerberg was harvesting all of our data for years and is still using it for very nefarious purposes. You know it seems it seems like a very convenient way to express concern about data privacy. It's like, Hey, look China's the bad guy not these corbeil practices that by the way, all the American tech companies pioneered well because they get the data. It's fairly self serving. Government you can. You can squeeze Mark Zuckerberg. You think the Chinese. Government can't squeeze mark. Yeah. Even mark Zuckerberg was literally like offered. Xi. Jinping opportunity to name his child and his running on the great. Wall. Yeah I mean soccer had of friendlier relationship with China I think now it's now it's in his best interest in to kind of make them. The boogeyman I mean, we saw this as the antitrust hearing his argument was if not us, then a Chinese company will do it. TIKTOK. In it Kinda just feels like the United States is taking that argument away from him which I'm sure he's a you know he's happy that instagram orioles doesn't might not have a competitor. I'm sure he's pleased as punch about that within his best argument against having instagram broken up from facebook might be going away. I've just been waiting to see sort of facebook policy response to all of this, which has largely until now has large minute a very nationalistic. We wear the exporters of the First Amendment. Around the world we have to operate our scale to keep users safe, and if we don't do China, we'll do it, and if suddenly China is an operating social networks United States chat apps like we chat United States such a big chunk of that argument falls out I have no idea how that's going to break, but it just feels like facebook is at a real crossroads. Yeah. I. Mean I just think A. Cutting ourselves off from the rest of the world like this is not a good precedent to set. So much of the community on these APPs is a global community We're all so interconnected and I, think you know just slicing us off. It's not going to stop progress. You know I think tick Tock will continue to if you know, say, say we it right and it flourishes around the rest of the world that's just GonNa make us seem less relevant especially with the creator industry. That's GonNa make our our creator economies seem less relevant for so long are American creators have been sort of the allister's right like we almost like the same movie stars right like the America makes the stars imports them all over the world I think if a Tiktok bandwidth totally disrupt that and I think we would seem more talent emerging from other companies brands willing to work with a you know those types of talent I. Don't think that I think we would lose a lot of course relevancy basically definitely what I was taught. In College in the early two thousands, which is a very different time. But my sort of college economics professor would always say America's most important export is its culture right? It's Hollywood it's the American ideal. It's all of that and if you lose the distribution channels for that, then like something something is going to go very sideways but that doesn't seem to be the interest to the administration like. Don't care about that for sure. But it is all of those things that you should be thinking about I mean, these are the ripple effects that something like this has and I mean we didn't even get into we chat and it's a totally different thing but it's just heartbreaking to see all of these stories too of just people not being able to potentially communicate with relatives anymore in China. It's very scary to think of kind of like the US closing its borders in that way do you think that like facebook doesn't operate in China Google doesn't operate in China except for very limited sort of research presence that hasn't stopped those companies from being global forces. Do you think that because it's Tiktok as a Chinese company that we bought operating here that that will have a different kind of effect. Yet hasn't sat those companies from being global forces, but they haven't faced a lot of competition. Now they are facing competition I. Think Look at these Chinese companies that are becoming global forces I mean, if you think about vid con last year, there was literally twenty big Chinese exacts. Like. About you know American Creator. Culture and figure out how to essentially spread Chinese creator coulter out more towards you know other countries so I think that you're right. It hasn't prevented anything. Well, I I just think these companies are losing relevance. I think facebook is is facing steep competition for more Chinese companies. Chinese companies are getting a bigger stake in sort of all of these other tech companies around the world like look at what tencent has a stake in you know. They're just getting more and more power in Silicon Valley, and I think these the power that these platforms have in other countries is it shouldn't be under estimated. Yeah. If you're not in America, you're in literally the rest of the world that's powerful took already banned in. India. Recently which has been crazy to what has happened in the Indian. Now, like his that shifted in some way of they're all gone to a different APP like it feels like the amount of nationalistic APPA banning is like going up and the sort of. Crater and maybe that's what you want. There's an element of every country. It's. SORT OF LOCALIZED ECONOMY I facebook has not been good to other countries around the world, right like they have a certain amount of cultural ignorance that just makes them blunder into enormous problems. You could make an argument that it's better for this to be a little bit more local, little more tightly constrained. That's interesting and I mean potentially I think that. I think that facebook is is horrible at creating things like tiktok youtube or vine like they can't. They can't. They have a really hard time with the crater economy like they did allow a lot of Instagram influencers to get you know taken hold. But that was before the platform shifted to video. It's very hard insurance, very saturated platform and I don't I. Don't know if you know if you working to build that cut type of world where everyone has their own localized creator economy, I think you'd need to build a new suite of APPS I. Don't think that that crater economy could live on facebook apps basically I don't think the main facebook APP I never. Yeah that's a lie I. Don't think of it as a place to go I think with reels my opinion of instagram has just changed like now just feels like a messy chaos overstuffed. It's totally overstepped it. Kind of reminds me of what happened to facebook or they're like, let's put marketplace. Let's put this. It's like. Such a mess. And you know real duplicates so much functionality of stories already that it just seems totally unnecessary and it doesn't capture anything that. You know is actually what's appealing about talk so I, just I think instagram is already slipping in terms of cultural relevance, and this is this is sort of another step towards its grave. Is that happening as fast as as you would indicate, think it's not I think it's like not immediate, but it is. It is showing the same signs of what facebook made culture, which is like it's completely saturated. The adults are all on it. It is very tied to offline identity. Still, it is not good at sourcing New People in sourcing new content. The explore page is not the primary feed that you go to. You're not. You're not really seeing fresh stuff on and it's just it's so confusing. It's like what is it? What is it messaging video chides trying to be everything in one but not really succeeding really well in any of it and it's just kind of cloning all of these features. I saw this guy posted thing last night saying that he facebook clone two threads, which was this messaging system that he came up with I guess and how frustrating it was is the developer just see facebook continue to just calm on. INSTAGRAM continues go on Guam on everyone. Else's creativity me. This is what facebook is going to get in trouble for the governor I mean that's like the. It's obvious that they're copying apps like more than ever. It is obviously facebook copies and its competitors, and if their best argument was well, if we don't do it China we'll do it goes away. Yeah. I just got to be wondering like, Mark. Soccer calling up, Joel, Kaplan and being like. Hey we need a plan like I have to wonder how he sees this actually playing out when the trump administration is removing his best competitor but the House subcommittee is like you copy your competitor's too much. Yeah and like you're saying like if the kids don't think it's cool anymore with the bottom falls out very quickly. Yeah. I mean kids are still on instagram but I think I just I wonder how long that will be I. Think every social platform has it's kind of peak just the way that these creators A. Lot of them don't last forever. It's like, yeah, facebook is still around, but it's relevant is waning and I just I feel like instagram is kind of on the precipice of some of that which is given the fact that it's so saturated in confusing. But yeah, I. Do you think that like I mean my impression and I am not a policy reporter but is that like trump is not gonNA punish facebook or anything like it doesn't seem like I mean yeah I, know they dragged him out to these hearings but. It seems I don't know. I. Am like we'll facebook at broken up I mean do you think that's a real possibility Ninety days to the election. Coming out of the hearing, what we heard from the committee was the next step is this report so the committee is going to issue a report I. Think they had already written that report I. Really felt like that they already knew what they thought. They just wanted to see they wanted. Is Journalists you have to you write the story about somebody you have to call the person and get comment before you publish it like I. Think this hearing was like they just got comet from the CEO of these company like, did you do it are these your emails? Yes. Those are my emails, and now they're going to issue this report and they've they've sort of dotted the is and cross. T.'s the reported feels like it's going to say, here's some proposed changes to antitrust law. Here's we have to review these kinds of mergers. Oh, in Btw we need to bring up facebook right? Oh. Here's some rules for Amazon, and apple with their stores. That's what that looks like I. Think it's always what it has looked like I think the hearing was like an exclamation point at the end of their their sort of investigation process. Well, they can do that, and then they've got a turn over the Congress can't break up the company and they can't. They're never gonNA pass a law in the sixty days before an election. Zero percent likely it's going to happen. So if trump wins again like is bill bargain. I don't know because the DJ would do it. If Biden wins, it's unclear that Biden has a coherent tech policy. I. It's a thing that we always talk about like the other big thing. I actually wanted to ask you about how TIKTOK moderates. But like the other thing we talk about section two thirty and how the platforms moderate more moderate less in Biden's policy position on to thirty is we should repeal it, which is not a very new physician. Right especially when there's like forty five bills in Congress to modify we actually just. By the time people are listening to this last week on Tuesday we had Senator Ron Wyden who wrote to thirty on the show and he has a million ideas about what to do about it. And Biden's position we should repeal it, and so I don't know that these companies are going to broken up or there's going to be a rational coherent policy from the top of the government and even after the election. But I. DO think the Congress the United States is going to issue a report that says facebook should be broken up, and then we're just GonNa have to stare at that for a while and like figure out what happens next Step to me seems very likely to happen. Yeah. Do you like Instagram irs worry about antitrust hearings facebook and instagram breaking up? Do they think about how it might affect who businesses I don't think that they do honestly don't think that they do I think that their awareness of all of this policy stuff is basically is really minimal i. think the Tiktok van stuff was an eye opener because it was like wait the government can affect this. But Know I have I have not heard them. You know I I don't think any of them know what section to thirty, S I don't think any of them know about the antitrust facebook earrings or anything like that. In a lot of these people especially, the ones that are making the most funny are young teenagers or people in their early twenties in La and It's just not a community that super plugged into the government stuff I, think it seems very far away and not. That's appropriate. I. GotTa be honest that seems that's the big benefit right? A bunch of twenty year olds reached an audience built business and made a bunch of money without interference or help or like gatekeepers that to me that's the victory of the Internet. Yeah. That's what it was. The removal of gatekeepers in the creation of large businesses it just doesn't look. Like traditional businesses that looks like individual teenagers, which is terrifying in a way is terrifying. I think, right that's I. Mean that's what I of have built. A lot of my coverage on is kind of explaining the other side of it that people don't see that these are huge businesses that they're completely intertwined with a lot of traditional entertainment, stuff and I do think that the big time agents and managers and stuff are paying attention to anti-trust do very critically about platforms A lot of big agencies actually waited like a year year and a half to even sign and you take talkers because they just wanted to see if the APP would happen with apple stable in the US. So I think that they think about technology maybe a little bit more Fraz. The creators are more focused on what they do, which is content and programming and performing well in sort of audience growth and stuff like that. So we only a few minutes I did want to ask you about moderation. I see this out all the time. It's like video in a caption is my last one got taken down Tiktok to tickets in. They also post that just because they want to re upload their viral videos. Yeah. There's obviously some gamesmanship going on there, but it seems like talk is a much more heavily moderated platform which when you tie it into Chinese State Censorship seems dangerous. How does that actually work on? I don't know that that talk is necessarily more heavily moderated. Than facebook and instagram because because there's pizza gates stuff all over Tiktok and there's a huge amount of disinformation mean comments that that go moderated. But I do think that people are much more aware of the moderation. Sound gets taken down. A lot of people are like they're censoring me or it's this thing and you know I don't know I think techniques to do that. I. Think if they over moderate that sets a good precedent that's what a lot of these companies should be doing the none of them err on the side of safety of user safety. So I think that the TIKTOK. Doing a slightly better job than than they are and I think that culture of everything is taken down actually it's a user expectation. Yeah. You want to be careful which is good whether or not they're actually doing it but the place you get in trouble and pizza gate point well taken is we don't really know how the for you page algorithm works. And we don't really know what they're moderation guidelines are, and so if you do make the claim that the Chinese government is running this thing regardless of whether you think they're collecting more or less data than facebook, we have no idea how their programming, what millions of teenagers see and that seems troublesome. Yeah. I think that's I think that's another concern that people raise. It's funny because people say that type of stuff and it's like there's a memo on to talk about this for like people freaking out being like an and then you go on it for you page and it's like beep boop BOP BOP stupid video. That is the. Last question I will admit what my for you page have account. The genius of Tiktok is that you don't even shooting. Yeah. Right. You just like start using it figures you out and I've always I've never wanted a cat because I've always I've always been attracted the notion I can just delete it and start over right and like maybe it will learn something else about me. But right now, my Tiktok for page firmly believes that I wanna see videos about dad stuff. So I get a lot of videos about grilling I get a lot of videos about car repair. I get the I think Charlie demilio transcends all tiktok algorithms. So see the occasional dance video and then just an absolute flood videos you've probably never seen this. It's the most dad thing in the world, there's a guy singing I live in a world of Osha violations and it's people it's people doing workplace accidents dangerous dangerous jobs on oil. Rigs. It's very funny in the Algorithm knows that I wanna see that. So now I will ask you what is your Algorithm show you you've got to have like the craziest one itself. It's so dependent on the week two because I like over like engage in certain things just to see what the algorithm will give me. I'm definitely in like frog talk or whatever, which is frog to talk, and there's just all these jokes about frogs and. So much more. Already it's so greasy. Yeah. But you know I I don't know I'm still in the basic tiktok not the mainstream one because I. Keep Track of a lot of these like influencers but it definitely shows me a lot of like millennials stuff to kind of like crafting and. Home making kind of quarantine lifestyle. Here's my daily quarantine routine. Like that mine is like very much like here's how to make the best of every like this is the concent- I came here for I didn't realize there is such a competition, but it's Where we're doing this kind of like celebrity package would like re looking at sort of like the different types of celebrities and I remember thing on for you page famous, which is basically like when you're just famous because you're repeated like you know those people that you see on your for you page that for you free page will not stop showing you specifically because we're like, no, this person is. Need to follow. And it. Follow them and then you follow them picks the new person and I don't have an account so I can't follow anyone. Oh Yeah. This is the genius of not having an actual account. Any moment I could delete this APP and like the local data cache of who I am goes away and you can be a new person I. Feel like the day I'm GonNa have a ceremony of the day I. Delete Talk and start over like graduated to being like I left Highschool Mike I'm a new person now like I always wanted a button like that on Instagram, I. I wish that you could just hit a refresh all button on instagram and just start over. Yes. Like. Residual Johnke. Yeah this is a I. Don't know might have never proven out my theory that not having account means you can start over I think you're right because you it learning. Ip Address. Like adding tech companies are good at figuring out who you are whether or not to escape, but it's like a tiny kernel. That I should be at some point I can be a new person to this one. Provided it says the United States. All right I've kept you for ways long. Thank you for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. People can obviously find you the Times. Where else can we find you? INSTAGRAM. TIKTOK FOR NOW Twitter. I'm at Taylor ends on everything. So excellent going to talk to you. Thank you for having me. All right. 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Big Difference Taylor order the fries and our go. We're ready with the state has a dog named Herbie who's literally sitting. You're begging for food everywhere. I look there's a good boy Herbie boy areas anyway. So how do we feel about murder Murph being on the road and missing We're really sad without murder. He he really honestly not the same thought the same I wish it was different murders on the road would. Business and business things businessman. This is a big week the catch up launch. Lots of people getting it lots of people posting about it. I'm so excited about it. We've sold thousands of bottles. It's so weird actually see bottles going out when they show me from the factory like when people try this, it's a game changer. No one knows and I can't wait for the first couple of thousand miles to get out. So people tell a friend telephone telephone tele friend. Are you. Know for real are you? Really, the best thing I've been saying that. Probably only been talking for three minutes. I. Feel like I'm exhausted already. We've only been talking for three minutes. That is unbelievable world. Here's the thing about the catch it certified organic that's a plus that's a win. It's gluten free, which is another win. Re percent sugar which everybody has a problem catch up because of the sugar index three grams. Tillers all confused the market, a fourth of all kits. Soon, as you smell it battery when you're emptying to tasty. smeller. Smells like trauma frog pro come right away way better. Cause trouble phrases. So, it's a hundred that's here's tailored. Here's Taylor sniffing. I'm sorry. Trader, Joe's three dollars catchup like yell, let's go over the things that people were writing me. You copied trough sauce I go I I will I like trump I even worked with them I did I did some selling stuff for them online or something whatever we did something I don't. I. Didn't know the trump owned truffles an doing anything with truffles. I'm confused how copy trough, which is a Hud Sauce There's been troubles have been ice cream thousand different things. What is what is trump to truffle catch up with real truffles? That's all I'm going to say not truffle oil real truffles and I don't WanNa take shots at trader Joe's a trader Joe's Fan. But what separates the trader Joe's truffle catch up from the food I'll tell you there's something called summer truffle, which is basically Not truffle at all, it's a trouble that doesn't exist the cheapest. crappiest lowest form of truck whole. Barely, any flavor barely any smell it's the one that they throw at you. This is made out of white truffle. So white truffle is like real truffle, the top truffle, the best trouble you know what I mean, and that's fine. If you want to go spend three dollars on one, go ahead smells good for about ten seconds. This one is like. If I leave it here it's almost like a candle it's an aroma of truffles and it won't go away. So I ran my friend said Oh my God trader Joe's house when I don't like okay great. Let me go try it I was in a panic I went to a swear my mother's life when I've ranch of their house with this one and this one drag kids everybody down I go I got to try this right now I literally shaking Oh my God a year of this working and trader Joe's does like a cheap one that's like whatever we opened them up boats good like Oh my God no that smells good to. This is like a decorative candle. Literally three minutes later I spell it again in a panic I'm like wait. Am I smell the other one anymore mine is exploding than we do the taste and I'm like holy rich deep, delicious amazing taste. The other ones starts tasting sour to me and I'm like what is going on so you get what you pay for listen you want to buy Honda, you buy one of my Mercedes Mercedes it's something. Forever don't be like get the one at trader joke you have no idea what you're talking about it. So I go get regular line like a same day. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Go ahead. It's catch up anyway good luck to everybody in their cats upset and we're moving on. This is just how much does that cost? This is Mike Nineteen dollars and the other one is three dollars, but it's like literally. Two different worlds it's like two different things if not comparable non-comparable, you want to try that one down. The bottle is a piece like we're look it's on the table. It's a beautiful color red. Another dish, Gal. You want this on the table because it's like a thing, it's a brand name. And that's what I wanted. I worked so hard I wanted everyone to love it I swear. I kept in such a secret I didn't WanNa talk about it because I really don't like to. You know I don't like to. Talk. About perfect. I let with this idea, and that's why I get so offended because I worked so hard that people right away have to be like when you copied that we didn't copy any. I know there's always haters. And I WANNA thank every person thousands of bottles that have gone out this week, which is so exciting to me to see all the bottles going out I'm so wound up like when I see them packed up and going and you know and Kim. Beautiful. Incredible she and Kim like she have never done that kind of beautiful long seven story post if she didn't love it because like I. Think the bottle is beautiful and like the whole thing. So I'm really excited about it and this is the first thing and we have the truffles steak sauce coming up next on the bottle. Gorgeous of really sick color and you know what I I base these colors on these eighties kind of like. Boats that I saw in in central pay last year I. Saw I said I want these rich eighties like billionaire colors that are really fun and so there was a red one, a green one in a blue one and they're kind of like old aristotle onassis like tug boat type of things and I saw. The steak one is when you guys try steak sauce, you're going to be like. That's the problem you can't. You can't decide guys, but it's not all about me. I don't want to talk about the catch the whole time just clip talk about. Get a gauge. We've got CAM here with us. Cam. Get engaged poll new world going on in La especially during the pandemic big stores or staying home and all of a sudden. There's a new breed of kids called the tiktok taken over and I actually liked them a lot. Most of them are really cool. Here comes our next guest before we get into that Kevin. Meyer. OTOGRAPHER and slash pickup guy today who because I cooked Kevin went and picked up the fries downstairs. It's a nice thing to do. We left to the meal or Kevin hold on your reaction you're the I need to reaction where's the cover I wanted to see what are those humongous fries? Those are potatoes those are is. Sure that's potato. Are you ready to smell it open it up? Man If you're. Kevin doesn't have what you call personality. Sit On. Are. You trying it with? Cam Tell everybody about game celebrated what's going on up there for full service digital marketing. followed. What? opposite. Swimming. Or, Guidance GonNa be back this is a live podcast works. This is really fun. Or. So the dinner ended and we put a brake on the Guy Cam who we're going to do the podcast with literally fell asleep. He's sitting here. He's sitting here. Lang fell asleep. It's really annoying. We're in a food God coma, which is like horrific. The girls since we're all in a circle, we're GONNA talk about Board Games. So it's this amazing game called where we're not really strangers and it's a game based on connection and what's That her then connection to me nothing I actually have the phone case of we're not really strangers because. You. The. I'm just going to see your real big advocate and I would say that somebody that doesn't understand would be a skeptic maybe I would say that I would be a skeptic in the sense of playing again outside of my comfort zone but that's the whole point of the game and I'm obsessed with it. So the game is it's really like playing cards. So you it's it's meant to do for one or two or two people but with Kobe, it opened up to group quarantine in anyway it's it is a game developed to get out of your comfort zone. So there's questions like what was your first impression of me? There's three different categories in the. points it can be as many people as you want, but the idea is to play with me. You don't know that we're like we're not really strangers. Be Ida I we could actually learn a lot of who played together. I haven't done downstairs here. Yeah. We could play and bringing so we could play. Good for Kevin Actually to break through you really. Covered was a really smart kid and he's really he's got a lot you. Lose Sanctuary Komo absolutely. Well, and like. Or on my God it's like. We're GONNA play I'm going to go get it. It's it's basically. So the three categories are perception. Something and then reflection. Team. or ago so she's back with the game. To ask you a question can't have in. What comp you so you have to ask this about me which doesn't really help. Those, let me ask this handlers going back to. Talk do you think I hear them? Should. We know the answer. You come up with the answer. What? Do. You think you're the most. You have a great smile. Embraces. Not. A Good Businesswoman Sale your good saleswoman. ONC- Pick a card. There's no answer. It's not like a right old. Getting? No, it's really getting. WHO Gets an let me ask you something like level to is. Is there a feeling you miss? So this is Kevin Feeling. Of sound just. Here's a better one. This one so far it's turning out through one of the worst games I've ever played I'm not kidding. About. That I wouldn't want to change. March humor. No. Go ahead. Earliest? Recollection Wow probably. Probably. That I don't know. I'm not vulnerable. I'm trying to think of it was a lunchbox or. If it was a frigging chicken nuggets before they turn to all white meat. What else? A nightmare. Keep going this is fun. This is fun just for me to answer every question just plop them off. Boring. Terrible Kevin. Oh. Now Kevin comes through on my on my questions. Are you serious keep going? Last night. Oh, my God I, surprise myself. Is Yeah but I don't WanNa. Make the whole podcast about the delicious Yummy. Vegan. Gluten free low sugar kosher shuffled catch up. I probably surprised myself. I don't have any answer what else. So. Far. The deep. I'm not. I'm actually no I'm just trying to I. Love Haters. So I just love to prove haters nonstop. Haters, motivators Yeah I love haters I. Keep telling me about everything is that I'm GonNa keep going like an animal I can't stop. It's like a problem. My whole life has to like do like folk heaters and leave them in their parents basement. What else? This past year. Two thousand twenty the year in the entire. fucking world. I hate the mayor of New York Bill De Blasio. But the happiest memory. Probably, would have to be Oh Paris fashion week men's fashion week. My first one in Paris was the coolest thing ever. Yeah like I've watched it for my whole life on TV and then get to Paris and I'm like, am I really Paris Fashion Week? That's fucking sick. It's ammonia. Yeah. Yeah. Mutual friends some. Oh Go ahead. This. This chapter. I would call this part three because I'm like I need to four ace APP because this is like this chapter has to end. Ace App just the worst year. No Indoor dining miserable. Yeah for someone like me this is the worst thing. My career is based on dining and everything's closed down and I'm sick of it open the fucking country. Next come for me next. Get to know someone in your life deeper level, who would it be and why? Probably Kevin. Love to know what his voice sounds like. Kevin I would love to hear all here's giggles and smcgaels and actually hear what he's saying. No. No WHO Is Good giggle. Allowed you go. I have an answer for I have a question for Kevin. It would be like what would Kevin never be and I know how to fill in the blank Public Speaker. Never very is. All right keep going with the questions. Left. Silently. My God. We just took a burger king and he's shoved it in his. A serious. Well Cara. Well Out. Cope well Campbell Cup guys. I'm going to see what he did please oh my. God. Please go to my instagram. Now, this is happening on the park has cancer nap woke up and went absolutely crazy. You got to see what he did. Go check out my stories right now my God. What happened To the middle of a stranger danger game and all of a sudden this happened. While guys. So Cam took a burger king that I used today for the filming of a TV show and shoved it in his entire face. He's covered got engaged himself while they got so end many. Guys. Kevin said a word in twenty one years. Kevin's. Giggling on the floor twenty one years. We got. The dog show in crazy. Oh. My God forget your mask. Guys we're in the middle of a game. That was really fun. Great. Well. The marketing director wait? No the sales director is now. What do you think of only fans? Bella Thorne me two million dollars this month. How is that possible? No never tellers a professional salesgirl we're having fun. We're eating at the AKA were had a big shoot here today and everybody's gone ballistic and crazy. Yeah, go ahead asking. Okay. Strangers would describe me as bowling. Only I know that I went. Strangers would describe me as a prick only I know that I. Have a heart of gold and I'm the nicest most fun person. I. Never One thinks I'm a prick and I'm like, you're so nice. I am Nice. I. Don't know why people think that I'm not nice and I'm like the nicest person harder goal and I love to make sure everybody's good I'm sensitive and I tell you. I know. People do go. I can't believe how nice you are why not I don't know why did you not think I was Nice I don't know why I've never let go of a dream ever ever I. Like achieved almost I. have achieved almost every dream because I don't stop until I until I as I said. Is that sick? I'm like crazy until I get my dream this week it's having my own trouble catch up but all the other dreams where that I love being on tv all that stuff because like how would I possibly be on TV I have no idea and I am for ten years. It's pretty fucking awesome. Game. and. The most beautiful thing about her. Okay Kevin Marcy and. she's really going to art. That's why I'm a photographer. Because she does. Thing about my mom. was. For you Kevin. How much. She loved other people I wanted to help other people I'm recovering alcoholic. So she helped a lot of people. Some of the people that are most addicted help the most people. Weird. Definitely. Okay. Guys. We're going to wrap it up. Not you think why do we all think that we met everybody in this room like there's a reason we all met. We're all here to worries. He's good. Work. I think it's just The AK puts together fun people and you guys live and work in two different places and somehow we all still connect it because I'm sure you guys don't have mutual friends that are in these places. It's always like separate people. Right normally it is. So I feel like I'm a connector number you is together and then Kevin just comes in. Just. comes. there. Can. Liz Game is really fun guys go get it. We're not really strict. She's trying to show me the game when she blocks the name how sick that we're not really strangers. Thing. They just put out phone cases and just to give you an idea this it's conversation Cheat Code. One of the things is what's up is what you would typically say you go what title would you give this chapter in your life which we already talked about there's another question. What do you do instead of saying what do you do? What are you passionate about? Right so. How's work? For All, the guys. Take that on dates. Yeah. All, right this is the Fuga part test. It was a potluck dinner we had and has turned into a game night and this is great. Love y'All.

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Episode 253 "WE CAN NO LONGER TURN A BLIND EYE"

Native Opinion Podcast an American Indian Perspective

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Episode 253 "WE CAN NO LONGER TURN A BLIND EYE"

"Up On bory. I was A D. Everybody how's it going? You have reached native opinion. We are an indigenous information and education radio show and podcast every week we talk about current affairs related to and from our own native American perspectives, moneymatters, Michael Kicking, bear, and the guy over there of course he is. grail she'll she all good morning. How are you? Doing well doing well, and we thank you guys for listening greatly greatly here on the show will roll right into our house cleaning. If you will the things ways to contact this year on the show is what we're referring to. You can email US hosts with an S. hosts at native opinion, Dot Com. You can also reach through twitter out there. It's at native opinion over there are facebook page and I keep making this comment that you know. About facebook but a a law I'll just finish what I was saying here and then explain why. 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And you are listening to episode two, five, three, our Wednesday edition we can no longer turn a blind eye. Indeed, I was thinking mothers the other day I said you know the support? We receive you know culpa financially as well as just in general you guys share on the show and just reaching back out to us with comments and questions and all that kind of stuff. You know without any of that David I would still be getting together periodically on my couch. Talking about talking about stuff. But now it's turned into a you know a weekly yearly at this point, right? Multiyear. Earn your four. So guys really honestly we appreciate it We would not be here without you is it is no exaggeration by bunny stretch of the imagination so. Also, we want to thank you. He can trading post who has become a regular sponsor now appreciate them ever so much. Who they make. Fine. Authentic. Mohegan. Indian. Made Craft and beadwork ribbon shirts, embroidered hats, dream catchers, and other specialty items. And they all. They also offer cloth masks of all sizes for the whole family to help protect your family. From. The ravages of covid nineteen, which is something Dave and I were talking about before we started the recording today. In the impact that has on a says individuals as well as obviously across the country and around the world. So police protect yourself and others consider wearing a mask. It's very, very important, and And we can't stress that enough and again we WANNA think. Mohegan. Trading Post for their support. And And help enrolling trying to protect the public you can check them out at Mohegan Trading Post Dot Com. So thank you guys for that. Absolutely. Thank you he trading post. Greatly. Greatly. appreciated. Let's see. We have a bit of listener feedback. And this bit of feedback comes to us from Listener Jeffrey. And his reason for writing Republicans dismantling democracy. Okay. I'M GONNA have. Communication why? Whenever I hear that particular time whenever I hear that I know right away it's an android phone. We don't have that. We don't have that ringtone. Oakland. Enjoyed android specific. It's just so happy and cheerful. That is. Alright jeffries messages, I'm one of your overseas listeners won't thank you He says, I live in Switzerland. Wow. That's wonderful to know that we're reaching people that far away. Though though originally from California one point that doesn't get enough airtime and he says I'm not caught up on all your recent show. So maybe you discussed before. Is the fact that Republicans in the RNC are working overtime to make it hard for people to vote and to fault Slade de. Register many voters. The CHEETO talks about fictitional risk of mail in ballots while his crowd works against democracy to reduce the number of voters. That can I just say it warms my heart to know that there's somebody in Switzerland calls him the Cheeto. I thought you like that. To. It is. The he goes on to say there are many. Defects in the US system but finding these democratic efforts is one short term way of nullifying the over the top disproportionate influence of oligarch kick Neil columnist behind the scenes. Since voting is regulated at the state level, many decentralized groups of people can fight this tendency in their local jurisdictions as an example. The terminal. As one of the highest unfavorable ratings among the Senate. Hurry. Just. DART. Since Kentucky is not really a functioning democracy. He keeps getting back in office. Town. I get tired of alone. To Sweep again. He goes on to say I get tired of Republicans saying they represent the American people they do not. They don't win the popular votes and they don't support policies that are favored by the overwhelming majority of US voters. You're absolutely correct. They do not. We need to see Republicans lose and landslides everywhere. If there is any hope for fighter for writing excuse me the US ship. Thanks very much for yard site full shows. And Jeffrey we thank you for being A new and loyal listener. We appreciate that a great deal. We do and I mean you know really throughout throughout the last year and a half. We. Have sort of ramped up Political speak if you will to to some degree on only because we knew you know a the the election is looming. Obviously, we spent enormous amount of time in the last recent months talking sadly. About trump, the CHEETO or the fool in the White House has another more common refrain is that we talk about him talk about the turtle who is actually Mitch McConnell the Senate Republican majority. only because these things obviously the decisions these idiots are making are affecting everybody. I'm mostly in disproportionate ways if you if you're in the one percentile in White than than this, I'm not applying this to you because you think things are great. but for the rest of us that is not the case. And And it's you know I in the problem. So everything that that Jeffrey's talking about is absolutely true from from my point of view at least in I'm pretty sure David too. But but yeah yeah. We we we have grave concerns about. The direction things are going. Even, though I have a lot of issues with America as a whole. Anyway historically as well as right into current day. But But. That doesn't mean that people couldn't work to make it better. And and and one way to do that is to remove bad bad leadership. So. Yeah. So I want to say on that. I guess. Yeah. It. Kind of speaks for itself. Really does. But thank Jeffrey for listening and thank you definitely for for writing in and know taking the time to do so we appreciate that. Absolutely Emerson the appreciate it. Thank you. All right we got some of voicemails well, Paul called in again and something about our last episode got the activists side of him rocking. Here's what he said. You guided really did something I'm tired. I'm very proud of here your. Debate. Got, my revolutionary blood boiling. And I just wanted to get A. Storm storm allows. A would-be King. gave up a good work hard. Talk Your Incurred you guys go back and listen to episode. Two, five two. which was Saturday and Dave, and I got into a spirited debate over. would be author journalist Bob Woodward. Won't revisit it. But I'm right Ask. By the way on the subject and again I don't intend to. relitigate this whole thing but. part of my argument though. On that. Had to do with I said that you know they talk about in in police circles, the the Blue Wall of silence right. Well I I did happen to catch some mainstreams interviews of Bob, Woodward? And none of them. None of them asked him any any controversal questions about why did you hold this audio? K.. So I, maintain at least that that part of my argument that they the news media protecting. This guy when you won't even ask the that type of a hard question. I watch CBS interview with him. I watched. Was it twenty twenty I think it was ABC's interview of him. And you know they had the entire focus was on you know everything that trump said in the interview they had none of them race that question you know you know I don't bother to. Because I'm sure they probably brought it up but again for the wrong reasons and I know that because we played it on the show Y T. has commentary in the direction that I was referring to but but mainstream. nope. So Just well, I think they mentioned it for a couple. Didn't did not mention it for a couple of reasons. One the obvious marketing and to I. I would I if I was interviewing him, I wouldn't have asked that either because it's not about Woodward, it's about the fool in the White House on what he said which is that is also true. Yes. So But okay. All right. I'll leave it there. But thank you Paul. Paul. Thank you good to hear from you and I'm glad you're you're revolutionary blood's boiling. You also sound better before. With the smoke and everything you know we last couple of calls in he was reporting on the fires there they're. Not. You know. It's not good. It's just not good out there at all. We were checking out a broadcast or a program called live rescue. Which was produced also by the now? DEFUNCT LIFE PD. and so you know as timing what habit their program is focused around. You know ride alongs with you know fire and rescue ems workers. And So they've been having quite a bit of coverage on the fires and just really scary stuff man it just it just is when you look at the devastation in these towns. Total towns gone When you're driving on roads and you see cars burnt out to the frame you're. To the point where there were cops, they're also trying to make identification the cars because there's no license plates because those have been burned up they can't even identify vehicles brother by the Vin numbers, the vineyards or gone. Melted to nothing. So. Bad bad stuff man. I have some. Friends. Family to me. They always have been that live in that area they'd been evacuated twice. One of them sent me some pictures from out there looking out their back door and those orange skies that you see. Yep. Their their actual. That's not that's not media manipulation right Yep. That is though skies look exactly that way. Absolutely, I've seen I've seen as well. Yeah. It's not an exaggeration at all. If if you know people out in that area. If you can send them something to help protect against the smoke is the breathing I. I'm not tooting my own horn just having respiratory problems after fighting covid I, know how important the the lungs are. I knew that before but even more. So now I sent those those folks I just mentioned sent them. To To The Respirators not the one you way are your ears they're the actual. Right industrial respirator symptom tool those Yup. and. They're just they're saying the smoke is so toxic out there you have to stay indoors. not too I'm not getting off subject but but I want to tease some audio they're going to play for Saturday show. Last night ABC's twenty twenty program ran a sort of a town hall from Pennsylvania. where trump was answering questions from supposedly which is believing it's to be asked but supposedly on decided voters, I can't even imagine. Who in this country is undecided at this point. Right. Needless to say, that's not a pitched it and in one of the exchanges. because of course, covert was brought up in his his. Response or lack thereof. he was talking about how great his administration did and and getting you know where they had. No no respirators at all to now. And I'M Roughly quoting, but you'll hear it straight out of the Horse's mouth. He said now we no longer need them. Yeah let that one set for a second. Yeah. When in fact? And most of of I know most of these mainstream news media outlets have They're they're broadcast facilities are both in La and New York. And we know that La has been hit pretty hard with the fires around the outskirts. In the man sits there in the studio although I guess I know they were in Philadelphia but the man sits in the studio knowing full well. That west coast is suffering such severe fires. And just told the nation, we don't need respirators anymore. So. I. AM, not, taking that out of context, you'll hear it on Saturday I'll just leave it at that. I've never in all of my years following politics. I have never in my life. Seen this level of. Ineptitude. Ignorance. self-absorption. Just mean spirited behavior coming from someone that is supposed to be. Put in place to. Lead a nation. In all my political life I have never seen anything like this. And I've lived through. A Bunch of presidents I've seen a bunch of presidents come and go. My first one was is on, our was too young to to really know what was going on in the political world but. I got a clue not too long after that. As, much as a kid can to get excited about the conventions. I guess. About your childhood no. Mike Nowhere near thinking about anything politics, my grandparents were activists so. That would examine. And it kind of It kind of made. Me Think way back then. I, I grew up during the civil rights BS. and. It made me think about. What needs to be done or why people need to stop. With the racism, even even back in as a kid. And I watched you know the Kennedy era, the Nixon, the Johnson air not in that order but Johnson and then Nixon and so on and so forth. and. Little changed in the way of civil rights. In the way, people of color were were treated little changed from from Bantu now. But I didn't see publicly as we see now maybe it did exist it just wasn't as as public but. All of the things that I just described as behaviors of the fool in the White House I never saw that before. In other other sitting presidents until now. Well I will I'll I'll leave it there because I've got many that comment on around that but it'll be it'll be Saturday show. With things that were brought up during that discussion. Last night that warrant I think some them some. Further. Correction. Saying. All right our next of voice mail. Comes from Africa. Called in with interesting situation that she Is has now been in. And also posed a question to brother. Okay. So here is what she had to say. Go. Good Morning, Michael This is Africa. First Time I've called and. It was a little startling a morning for me. I had an occasion where I met a very brand new friend at my age, which is kind of unusual law and we have been walking for the last week. Every day at seven am in the morning. enjoying the morning. Greeting in the day. And This morning Mostly through our walk, I wanted to get a cup of coffee and. She. Can't remember what the conversation was. But she told me that she would be the voting for the current occupant that. Washington DC head of our country. And I. I felt like the wind SORTA got taken out of my belly. Because I have delicately, you know told her about my values and how I think that each individual is important and giving that we're here in this country that freedoms are very important. And I couldn't. I had nothing really to say, Hey, for quite a while until we got to the corner. Of the edge of our town. And there's usually some sort of saying scrawled on a whiteboard which started before the Covid But today was Kinda interesting. Remember how people say that there are no coincidences. The. Thing on the signed today after are walking silence towards home was wisdom. Is the absence of judgement. So. It was kind of hard for me. To rectify, but she had told me and we had agreed never to talk about politics. But as we reached my house I told her. my feelings and she coming from Vietnam during the era. When things were not very good there due to our occupation and. Sort of messing up the country she had. Lied. She flew away with nothing in our pockets and you know arrived here and was able to make a life for herself. But given that that was her reason that she did not want to see that sort of regime occur here So I told her about my experience and understanding of politics I'll obey through the eighties especially, what occurred in Oakland? California and I ended the day with telling her that none of this really matters. that. It's important that we just remain human beings and accept. Everybody. Should be allowed to exist. So. We parted ways for the moment and. Will continue our rocks in the morning And I guess my call today which perpetuated it. Now that you know the reason behind me calling today was how? What am I supposed to talk? To people about and not that I really want to change people's minds. But? How do I let people know? Why it's important to. To hold leaders accountable and vote for appropriate individuals out will reflect decency. Although the candidates I don't feel really reflect all of my values I know that there is. one group of candidates that I don't believe reflect any of them I values. So how do I talk to those who I care about? About this. Silicon Valley. Or do I just not talk. anyways, heavy words and I hope you to continue to shed some light on how we can leave our lives In a balanced manner maybe can talk to this point. Maybe. On stage. A Wonderful Day. and thank you for taking my call. Wow. That's what I said. I heard it Yep. Wow that. Talking about bearing one Seoul You WanNA starring undersell high. She The lady from Vietnam, has this. Apparently image in her mind. That America. Is Okay under the leadership of Donald Trump. And and so. Being that we At least I didn't live through the time when the she was. So she felt she had to run from her own country at that time. You know maybe I'm sure he considers this or country now, and that's fine but You know are the same. Conditions. Right. I mean there's days. Yeah. You know I look at you know laws that are being enacted in in the behaviors of this president and though in his circle in. Modern Republicans. but I have nowhere to run. And historically, I should never run. From. This place. Because of a holes. But My parents had raised me at one point two. More or less say that you know I was free thinking you know I could I could make my own decisions but they also grew up in the era when you don't talk about your political persuasion. Right And In, today, I just don't see how you can avoid it. Having a conversation at some point. You know I think there's times you you have to switch it all off but know we read all the time about families being broken apart because of this crap friendships lost because yes there's distinct very differences as as Africa said, right? There's another aspect and in meaning cut your all I was rambling. Anyway don't worry. There's another aspect of this that I didn't mention. There's a psychological aspect. That I am qualified to speak on but I won't calls I don't know this lady specifically or have not talked to her. But I don't think culture has too much of a part to play in this. In her decision making war her. Her obvious. Wanting support for the full in the White House. But? It almost sounds like there's a site psychological aspect underlying why she feels that she should support this fool. Could it be that she's trying to disassociate herself from who she is. and. That's playing a part there. There are a lot of aspects here that could lead one to. Surmise that. Maybe she's not. Being totally honest with herself although I don't know that because I I do not know. Why anyone? Would want to support the full in the White House. If. They're being totally honest with themselves. After knowing hearing and seeing all that he's done. To this nation. there's there's under there's gotta be some underlying. Psychological aspects there that. Can Be rooted in some. In could be something a superficial as the full hading same people they hate. So. Africa. Africa. There's there's a lot of a lot of things to unpack there as to. What's leading your friend in that direction? If you want to know. Talk, to her more. And that includes you know other friends and family members. If you want to know what their impetus is, that's driving them to support the full in the White House talk to the more just just ask. Your an intelligent person. All of our most are are listening audiences intelligent listening audience. I can't be more proud of of all of our listeners because. You're everyone critical thinkers on a love it. I. Love It. Ask If if you want to know. Ask. I would. I would ask her. it. It may strengthen the friendship. It made aunt. But it leaves. Joel. If the friendship ends you'll have an honest. Estimation, as to why and if the friendship become stronger, the same thing applies will have an honest estimation as to why. and. That's my two cents for what it's worth. I felt a little bit of time to think about this a little bit more and so just to add on to what you said agree with everything that you said talking is is the right. Is. The right answer there. Just asking why she feels the way she does maybe try to discern whether or not. Her opinion is being formed as a result of what influences. So you know we we talk often about you know the media and the problems. that the media is causing on both sides Okay Ka. So I'm I'm not so blind that ten, I just. Listen everything they say and take it, take it as as fact. But But I think trying to understand as Dave said What what drove her to these conclusions, right. is is important if she's open minded enough to hear Your perspective of a Free Cup. Then, then share that with her. because. As you pointed out, it's IT'S A. It's about your values, right? And so. That will either. Because again, to believe, you said, this is a new friend. So it's not someone you've known for a long period of time, and again, we can only glean based on the audio we right the voicemail. So I look at it I guess as it's a developing friendship and so one of the things Really You know the way a couple becomes you know closer you know as as a husband or wife or otherwise right? Trying to understand each other. And so Value Becomes. Important at some point, right? So if you can have a friendship of that doesn't involve politics today. That's a great thing. If you can do it. I just don't know if it's if it's possible with So, many influences right now. until. Something changes, and we just don't know what that something is. Yet the election hasn't happened yet. We don't know if better people are going to be elected that helped shape better policy we don't know. So I think there's also some healthy aspects of turning off all forms of media. Walking on the beach does a great thing if you don't bring a phone or A. Kind of. I mean, no, we want folks to listen to our show even right but Sometimes you gotTA, turn it all off. You, know I mean, Okay Great Example Badger, right Badger called in I know a week or so ago and said I'm going up in the mountains and he was very, very happy about that. Remember. He said, I'm nothing's going with me. I'll catch up with your show when I. Right. Right. And so you know In Revere Badger in a lot of ways because he he looks at the world I think. Very. Positively. That's the impression I've gotten over the years that he that he's called in and listened in. And so you know maybe there's some wisdom there. That we should we can all take, which is sometimes you're gonNA turn it all off. And And for health reasons if nothing else and health can include you know building or making a stronger relationship. You know. But. Communication is also a part of this trying to under trying to understand the people so so yeah, maybe maybe Maybe good on the road of China understand again, her perspective in what shape that. Offer your own in see if you can find common ground if you can great if not the new maybe Evaluated, and if you like I said, if you can a relationship without a discussion of politics. Just stay with that. But if you think, you have to have a conversation around Politics in your values, try to draw on some Maybe, policy examples or things that. Affect you personally that either has been negative or positive. And explain why that might be to her. And then see what she says so Against All right onto native news. Yes. Onto Nita News and again, thank you for the call in by all means. Call again please. Everybody. Absolutely. This. Article Left me shaking my head a lot of times brother. gave me a headache just trying to think about how to. Put together in any kind of. Commentary about. The body of this, this particular article, and before I even began I, I love our native relatives dearly i. Hope Folks, I I love you all dearly. But I can't for the life of me. UNDERSTAND WHY A tribal body will allow this to happen. Excuse me what I'm talking about. Is. The title of this Article Navajos nation takes pride in covid vaccines study. Y. After all the crap. That Europeans have done to native peoples why? and. This was brought to us by way of Dolphin Walker for Indian country today. Dot Com. Dalton. Quote. Excuse me. If this study finds the backed vaccine is. Effective. against. Kobe. Listen to the first word of that that sentence again if. Excuse me. If this study finds the bacteria vaccine is effective against Covid nineteen than American national on Alaska native individuals and indigenous people around the world would benefit. If. That's a big word. Well. Not only that. If, I could just step in on this because this is the other part that I'm very, very concerned about. That's if you can get access to get it. Now, they're gonNA. Get it. When I'm talking they're saying if Okay I. See what you're saying if this study finds I'm talking about after the fact. I'm talking I'm talking about discrimination in in. An injection. I understand that but okay. All right I'll shut up. What bothers me so much about this article is they want to use. As Guinea pig, I understand. The. Scotty thought on it though I have two schools of thought. But anyway, go ahead I want our audience to understand that that's what this is all about. It's not that there's a a viable usable vaccine, a proven vaccine. That's working. There is no such animal. This virus seven months old. Seven months old. We don't have a cure for the common cold. We don't have the cure which is another another. Another form of Corona. It's a science virus. Absolutely. A cure for the flu. We don't have a cure for pneumonia. Way Don't have a cure for any of the many SARS related viruses that are out there. So. They're going to tout that there's a vaccine available for covid nineteen. They're using. People of. Color as guinea pigs. That's what they're doing. The making it available. To People's of colors to be used as frickin guinea pigs. Going on. With dolphins article, the Navajo nation which is more has has lost more than five hundred citizens to the Kobe nineteen pandemic. It's on the front. Lines Volunteer Vaccine Study. This. This makes my stomach turn. To read that. Only a few days after reporting. Now, new daily cases for the first time in months, the tribe announced Friday that it is participating in a Pfizer Bio INTECH Kobe, nineteen vaccine trial. A patient volunteer basis. Navajo Nation President Jonathan Ness regularly, updates cases each day the social media. He reported no new cases on Tuesday, which is Great. The next day. He reported twelve new cases still a dramatic drop from past weeks. Several potential vaccines are in development and summer in clinical trials trials on humans. But there is currently no licensed vaccine that prevents Kobe nineteen I'll read that again, there is currently no licensed vaccine that prevents Kobe nineteen. And a statement necessarily that it's important that the Navajo people have an opportunity to participate in a phase three trial quoting. At this study if this study finds that the vaccine effective against Covid nineteen then American Indian and Alaska native individuals, indigenous people around the world would benefit. Okay don't blanket us all onto one one heading please sir. Quoting again, we want to do everything. We can to keep our elders and people healthy and to prevent another spike in Kobe nineteen cases and I, understand the need for that. Without a safe vaccine, which it's not I'm members of cases will continue to fluctuate and we will continue to face substantial risk of infection. Stop right there for a moment. If people really understood what clinical trials do. and. Why they're done. Nobody would participate in them. I understand some people participate in in these various trials because they feel they have no choice. Because it is literally life and death. I I understand that. I'm not knocking anybody for doing that. You Know God bless you that's what you feel you need to do. But to expose an entire group or groups of people to trials. volunteer basis. To something that they have no idea about. Is is beyond me it's it's insane if you ask me. Yes. To be done to prove medications, vaccines, Etcetera Etcetera Etcetera I understand that. But I can't. I can't wrap my head around this. After all the things Europeans have done to native peoples. Why? Why do this? I can't even finish the rest of the couple of paragraphs it to be on the show notes, right? Well. Okay. I'm going to break this apart. first of all none none of this in my opinion is directed at Dalton Walker author all simply reporting the news. I didn't get the indication that it was I didn't I was just for the audience in case somebody. Thinks Dalton had something to do. With this They didn't. Also before I, give any additional commentary I have no idea what's involved in a clinical. Trial. I'm just be up front with that right. So I'm going off merely an assumption in Dave. You can correct me if any of what I'm about to say is just blatantly incorrect. All of this voluntary. I Don I e regardless of if you're indigenous or not. All of this is voluntary. Would I do not hear anything about is The risk to? The participants. So for example, we heard in the news. Recently that. One of the company's trying to develop a vaccine halted testing because of a reaction. One individual hat. And There was never a conclusive follow up to that as to what that reaction actually was. My next point has to do with the what I would assume is the inherent danger. To the participants. Because you're taking an injection. That is man made. And you do not know how your body's going to react to it. The science says. They think a chemical reaction in your body should produce X. And in some cases, it doesn't produce it produces. I'm not talking chromosomes or something like that. I then. I then do not understand if there is compensation for. These volunteers. because. I'm trying to be careful but I don't know any other way to put it this way is there not an inherent risk to even their lives? When they're taking unknown injections. To answer that question. Yes, there is risk. Okay to their lives. Absolutely. Okay. So, if there is risk to their lives. I put them on par as I would. First responders. Now they've called people essential workers. The people that are risking their health to be in an environment where let's say cove nineteen is spiking. Again not knowing. The science around What they're making. For these vaccines but For example, one of the Treatments, for, people with certain. Allergies. They're actually and this is true. Also presumably of the flu shot, which is you're actually injecting yourself with the very thing that you're allergic to. And I never understood that I'm myself personally this is just me I'm not saying everybody else should do this. I'm personally against the flu shot. Everybody should to some degree because you're injecting yourself with the flu virus to some degree or certain strain of it. I. I. Just don't understand that logic. Now somebody can explain the science to me I suppose I. I believe it has something to do with they feel it. counters it Like zeroing it out or something to that effect but. Same thing with allergies, they inject you with a form of the be that. To combat. The your otherwise allergic reaction to a bee sting. Well. I'll go back to I'll go back to your analogy of of the flu shop and that's that's a good analogy. The, flu vaccine. That they encourage people to get every year. Is Not a vaccine that combat's the current strain of flu. I'll say that again. The flu vaccine, they encourage people to get every year is not a vaccine for. To cover the current strain of flu. Okay. Thank you. What I'm going to expound on that more for our audience, K.. The current strain of flu that they want people to get vaccinated against. Hasn't been in existence long enough for them to create. Any, kind of vaccine for. Sound familiar. Yes, it does So your flesh. Is just going to say I, mean Now it's okay I mean I've already made the point I would just end up repeating myself I just I just I just don't understand the logic of it. Well, it's marketing that pure and simple the flu the flu shot for the most part is mattress where I was going to go but I just figured. I was. Sometimes, I get very worried that people think I'm some conspiracy theorist not. No, I don't walk around with my eyes bugged down the what if this? But but but quite frankly I mean that is a component to this meaning meaning. You know what I mean because like clockwork man, you know the ads start appearing on TV and radio. You get your. Did you take the flu shot? You need to take it now because winter's coming and if you don't take it. Well shame on you. And that's there's another good point the bring up they equate the flu shot to winter. Got Nothing to one that has nothing to do with the other third. Just. Exactly. Because because. Because you know sales are scheduled yup? I. Mean we have to make our numbers and therefore make sure they know. To. Shot. In quarter for. So. So you know. So yes, you know I I. I have concerns around that No let's hit the the main point that you. that you brought up Guinea? Pigs. I you know I tend to agree with you. The difference here is to some of the examples in the past of Government run. Injections of indigenous people. On is the word voluntary. And But like I said, I still have also heard about how How are these recipients? All be even if they volunteer see just because somebody volunteers doesn't mean that you shouldn't compensate them for in some way because they are putting their lives. At risk and also if they believe that they are trying to do something to help humanity in this case, for Navajo, nation their own people. Damn well better compensate and I don't mean five bucks five bucks show up because that's the other game. Right. I'll give you five bucks show up and just you know allows the stick this needle and you just once okay just wanted to you know. Just it's three hours of your time. Or something like that. No? You're injecting yourself with something that nobody knows what's going to happen. Now. And again, the flip side of this is okay. They WANNA vaccine. Supposedly to get. Rid. Of. This strain of virus. All night last night during that trump debate thing he kept calling it the China virus, a growth agenda virus because because whether it's where it came from China. Such an ignorant. As if to say as if to say corona virus only came from China. Corona virus that the core aspect of you know the core strain there's different strains of this you see. Cold strain there's a flu strain. There's all like at all forms of SARS. Didn't just come from China. Anyway Well. Here's why I say there's there's a financial or marketing aspect of vaccines. This this summer, the fool awarded one point watered at one point nine, billion dollar contract for one hundred, million doses. To be delivered by December yet. Okay. That red flag number one SHERP. I'll build onto that just for a quick second. All right. So what I keep hearing is. There are millions of doses lined up ready to go. Well well, how can there be millions of doses ready to go when nothing's been tested and has been deemed safe by any level headed medical professional first of all. Number two. But you're basically if you're picturing this in your mind, then you'll be picturing this accurately little tiny vials millions of them. With three quarters full solution. But missing an active ingredient. Okay. That they intend to if something is deemed quote, serve serve right. Then, they're going to add those little droplets to all these little vials and get them out the door. Basically, that's what happens. That's what they mean. When they're said, the stuff is staged and ready to go. Now, the flip side of that is if they can't find something that pass supposedly all of the safety tests guess what they gotta do those vials. Their own way. Will here's the. Scary. The news organizations that that that's part of this article is responsible for reported that Pfizer could know if the vaccine works as soon as next month October. That's BS. And if approved, it would manufacture ready more than one point, three billion doses worldwide by the end of next year, you know where the number one facility that they're that they're trying to do the testing for covid nineteen at Pfizer is. Now. We're we are here. In Connecticut Yeah that the main campus. We. kind of no. So the risk is enormous. Now what I didn't see in the article here. Putting all the other concerns aside? If if there's a certain percentage of Navajo, nation that are willing to volunteer themselves to this testing in the testing becomes how did they put it here? Of Study finds that the vaccine is effective against Kobe nineteen, then they stay that the Chairman Nez. President Excuse me apologized President Nez said then American Indian Alaskan native individuals in indigenous people around the world would benefit. Close quote will who says because this goes back to what I originally launched with. Discrimination on injection. Is there an agreement with Pfizer Pfizer is? The test right I mean Pfizer is a company that they've partnered with. Yes. Pfizer bio N TEK right. Is there an agreement between Pfizer bio tech and Navajo nation that they are the first to receive the approved? Vaccine. No you don't read that in the article. The people who are going to get the injections I are the wealthy. And why people aren't reporting on this more is beyond me. Those who can afford it i. These companies aren't making this. Because, they want to be good citizens king me. Regardless of what country they're in. See Trump is banking on. This as another form of economy stimulation. What do you think he's handed it off to companies. They expect payback. They do and expect paying back by who insurance companies. Who then in turn charged to you and me? You haven't heard that vaccine is going to be free to you have you. Know. They're expected to be well compensated. Now some cases in this hasn't been I don't think has been A determined yet unless you've heard something brother as a government given these companies, any kind of seed money for the indy. basically the answer to that is Yup. Okay That's. One hundred. One hundred one point nine, billion, dollar contract was four. Okay. So all of the I'm go on a limb and say these are only American based companies that are can can get access to the funding. No. It's probably available to anybody that applies. Okay. So there's more justification for people to Ask Will, why is my insurance rates going up? If I want to get the vaccine. Why does the end citizen have pay anything? For that vaccine. Because there has been assertions to that made. So. Well, here's here's one thing that really. Really. Bothers me about this whole thing. Participants must be between eighteen and eighty five healthy or have stable underlying health conditions, and they cannot have tested positive for the coronavirus. Rebelled again why. Disciplines participants must be between ages eighteen and eighty five. Healthy or have stable underlying health conditions any end they cannot have tested positive for the coronavirus. Enrollment will begin mid-september. which we're in at participants will receive two doses of approved vaccine and will be monitored over a two year period according to the first release. Okay. There's a lot to unpack in that one little paragraph. Number One. They're testing across a wide spectrum of demographics. Eighteen, eighty five. They have to be healthy or have stable underlying health conditions. That means they want is clean. A test subject is they can get. They cannot have tested positive for the corona virus. So that means if you're healthy, they're going to infect you with the KHURANA virus. Yup. They're going to give you the only way. It's the only way the they can test any any type of viable solution you have. You have to be willing to take the virus. Initially and then, and then they have to. Apply the antidote sorry. The the the the the vaccine intest. Well the virus is in the vaccine. Okay. Okay. So you're okay. So they're they're they're taking the same strategy as they are presumably the flu virus run. Okay. Got It. They're going to give you two doses of approved vaccine and they're gonNa Monir to you over a two year period. That's the biggest red flag of all. They're going to monitor you over a two year period. Now that two year period. Within that two year period they're gonNA have. A lot of information that they're gonNA collect. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Sorry. There's still. A lot of information they're going to find out who the viruses going to kill. They're going to find out who the viruses going to maim and or disfigure. To include severe neurological deficits which some cases have already been reported. Cognitive functions that are. maybe not not correctable. blood conditions all kinds of different things that can happen that they're seeing with people that have already been infected with the virus. Now the fact that they are injecting healthy people with the virus. Can Open up whole big different can of worms. To present a whole lot of different things that going to affect a whole lot of different people. So, so two things on that on that statement alone if they're gonNA monitor somebody for two years. Again, two years. Then that means anything that they presumably would be releasing to the public. They can't guarantee a safe. No because let two year window that two year window is the minimum minimum time to test. A vaccine or medication that now window is a minimum common. That's very interesting. You said that because the last night during the trump townhall meeting the people event that ABC put on. He said something to this effect. Again, we'll have this on Saturday, but he said. I don't think the Democrats could have done this. Because the Democrats had so many FDA regulations that it would have taken at least. Two Years Sir he said. To get a vaccine out. How very interesting You see regulations are always a bad thing people. Are Not. Always a bad thing. In this particular case, it was a say it's for safety reasons. But the guy that wants to be king again for another four years. Things regulations are bad. Slows down the process. Being safe is. an exaggeration. That's why this matters. Oh. Yeah. So. People need to think long and hard I don't care. I, don't care if you're indigenous or not. People need to think long and hard about all of the ramifications and those people that are conducting the test they damn well better. Be Telling people what those risks are. I I have some skepticism around that as well. When when you have this level of pressure? To, get something untested into people's arms. And I'm not talking about the volunteers I'm talking about Everyday People Question everything. Oh. So. Move on we're really do. Next. Article Up is something that caught my eye This has to do again with. Absentee. Ballots. This is from statement out by the native American rights. Lawsuit Challenges. Constitutionality of Alaska's witness re requirement on absentee ballots. And then a civil rights group to sue Lieutenant Governor Kevin Meyer to expand vote by mail access. Here's what's going on here out of Anchorage Alaska. LASCO's witnessed signature requirement for casting absentee ballot is unconstitutional and immediate injunctive and declaratory relief must be granted a federal lawsuit filed today against Lieutenant Governor Kevin. Meyer Director of the Alaska Division. Of Elections. Gail of Nami. And the Alaska Division of elections argues. The lawsuit seeks to waive the provisions of State Law for the upcoming general election that requires voters who submit a male imbalanced too heavy witness sign their ballot return envelope. Even in the midst. Of the highly contagious and deadly covid nineteen pandemic well isn't that special. The suit claims that the witness signature requirement places a significant burden on the fundamental right to vote because people will have to risk their health and being to vote or not cast their ballot at all. Allowing the witness requirement to could de franchise thousands of eligible voters in Alaska who cannot risk contact with other individuals to vote in person or obtain a witness signature on their absentee ballot. A preliminary injunction was also filed today that hopes to immediately abolish the requirement and guarantee voters the ability to vote by mail. So. In in Alaska, some of the villages are very remote saying you know really it's the same situation that some of the tribes out in out in the Midwest have. And so you know they can only rely. On, you know a a a mail service. Because driving to a voting location. Is. Extraordinarily, challenging. So. This is yet again, another little game people are trying to play by saying, did you sign your envelope? You didn't own sorry I can't I can't accept it. So. quoting here again, from the article, it is no way permissible to force residents to sacrifice their health and well, just to exercise their right to vote. But that is exactly what's happening because Alaska's highest education excuse me highest election officials have failed to take the necessary steps to ensure that residents can vote safely amid the pandemic said Associate Counsel at the Voting Rights Project at the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights under law quote with the election just weeks away we are turning to the court to provide immediate relief to defend the right to vote for people across all of Alaska. We live in a democracy and a key component of our society is giving everyone the opportunity to have their voice heard close quote. So yeah very, very important arrested. This will also be in in the show notes It's. Rather important. we may think. All right. want to add one more item here to the native new segment. So this is an extra. Now. Montana. is considered to be a moderately republican state. There is a small percentage of Hispanic and African American voters there. However, data provided by home snacks dot net. That's the name. A resource which combines recent data from the census FBI, an open street maps and a number of other sources They state that native American population in Montana is sixty, four, thousand, six, hundred, forty, three, or six point two percent of the total population of that state. Versus six excuse me point six percent of black Americans there. Now. In the last ten presidential elections Montana has voted Republican except in Nineteen ninety-two. Now, why do we bring this up? Well. The Crow Nation of Montana as decided to endorse four more years. Of the CHEETO? Here's what the chairman said. The Chairman of the Crow tribe Mr Aj not afraid. Today. Only beyond Z. with great men and others like four others around you there hanging out. Now amongst the two the two great men that he's speaking of. Mike Pence. Swore. Make sure you guys. This isn't that long three minutes then no no no I know it's not the time, I? Just. Might my head feels like it's just. I'm looking to see Rod serling walk through my door, my office door at any minute. Here's the rest of the statement. Tribe is cold tribe home tribe. Is An energy tribe. The crew. Since, the early eighteen hundreds have always been an ally to the government. From the Little bighorn. World War to Vietnam. Myself. In the four. Out Today's send before you to. Endorse. As well, as support president trump. Vice President Pence. Senator Danes. My good friend. Matt Rosendahl. and. Last. Not Lease Superman. June four. Do. Not. Ask for handouts, patrol ass. This. Lineup to help which in the last four years president trump had. Endorsed and amended executed the Terror Act which enabled the crow tribe into permanent its own mineral resource. Longtime. Coming. Up to walk through that door. As well as Vice President Pence crew the war on coal is over. Working with US law enforcement. Government. To say, can you viewpoints around one for some I've says, please step out of the way. Let us run along. Congress June fourteenth. Testified before him during various. Natural Resources testimonies, and such. which not only helped the crow tribe would help many nations in general because there are over five hundred tribes in the United States and without that type of leadership that you have before you. Why changed courses. So this time again, I, thank you for the opportunity. Go from. Anyway You get the just thoughts brother. I think it's the Rod Sterling coming you. Know Yeah I I do. The audience has heard me say this before money is the new whiskey. and I'll just leave it at that and. Listeners can figure out what that means. He did make one true statement and his his his commentary. About the crow always being. In the pocket of the government, I? Sure that's not what he said directly but. I think it was the crew. Of That ad. Scouts for. custer. If I'm not mistaken I'll have to research that to be sure. So I just I I'm just saddened that. Any native person any native nation would have anything to do with full in the White House in his administration. I, am really sad about that. And again, he's taken a note from. Republican. Playbook Union. Taking a note from the Republican playbook to homogenize a lump, all native American tribes across the country. Into one category. By stating that. This kind of leadership. You know words on the behest and paraphrasing. All. All on native peoples across America. Now, it does not. So you you know you can support whomever you want to Serb. I am saddened to to hear your exuberance. Disappointed administration that would just kick you on the teeth. than. To. Help. You. Out of the out of the mud. If you were to fall down. If. You try to fall on hard times. This administration will just assume kick you in the teeth. That's all I've got to say. Okay, well, First of all lightened as as you stated, I also say this on the show often that is support and. There's a thousand different ways we can interpret this but Indian self determination. Now, I do believe. where? The chairman made those statements was a regular Republican trump rally it was not. Necessarily on. On crow reservation or. Or Crow Land if you will. I believe it was irregular rally stop but because it's Montana. and. Because There are sixty, four, thousand, six, hundred, forty, three. or six point two percent. Of the state. Is Indigenous People they're? They're like we're better invite the tribes. Right. But he said this. The Crow tribe is a coal tribe. Really. Because To the uneducated that makes it sound like your tribe only cares about. The coal. Industry. Now sure they don't but. I understand the need to move your economy forward to. Quite frankly make sure your people survive. In our case. We've chosen to. Conduct gaming on our reservation. Crow people apparently have made a decision that they would get into a coal mining industry. And that's fine. But be clear. That, there's. More to ourselves. Then economics. In my view. he also made a statement that I would yes I would definitely need to. study up moron. Reference that he said, crow nation is an ally to the United States government. Context important. So I I would of wished he would have elaborated on that more. Because his history is clear on that. Particular here in the northeast. Night states government has not been. In many cases continues to not be. Our ally. So we need to define that. Statement more I feel. So. In the rest I think Dave covered quite well, I don't need to. Step back over that but. They have every right to you know decide you know who they want when they want to back. But you see the promotion of fossil fuel. By making that statement about coal means you do not believe whatsoever in climate change. and. So Just. West of Montana. I think there's some folks there that are not including other tribes. That will disagree with you sir. because. It because those types of activities. Contribute to. A. Greater. Problem. So I. would ask that. That be kept in mind as well. I agree. But anyway three. Was Newsworthy I just wanted to. Let everybody know that did take place so Thank you. All right in would that said brother I guess I guess. As. You'd like to say buy bags empty my bag is. We appreciate. You guys tuning again as always as we. For. Another another Wednesday episode, we'll be back again of course. On Saturday. With the with more news and stuff like that. So. by all means, keep the feedback coming and You can email US hosts with an S. host at native opinion, Dot com can reach us out at facebook at facebook dot com forward slash native opinion podcast, and you can leave us a voicemail at its zero eight, hundred, five, five, nine, five, My name is Michael kicking bear from the Mashantucket Pequot Tribal Nation here in Connecticut the guy over there. Of course, he is David Gray Al from the Cherokee tribe Alabama dot going. 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Samsung Galaxy S20's camera issues and Bob Iger steps down as Disney CEO

The Vergecast

1:26:09 hr | 7 months ago

Samsung Galaxy S20's camera issues and Bob Iger steps down as Disney CEO

"This week on the virtuous we go deep on the Galaxy s twenty ultra. What's going on Camera Julie? Alexander joins us to talk about the big changes at the top of Disney. Do a grab bag news from NBC. It's fun it's a virtuous come it's up to the verge has brought to you by nerdwallet. Most people out there you have a ton of financial questions might be keeping you up at night wondering how to start. Investing thinking about opening a rewards credit card. Whatever your money questions might be the experts at nerdwallet. Have you covered their legitimate? Money nerds obsessed with this stuff and they make it easy to understand any complex financial question. Check out their calculators and simple side by side comparison tools. Starting sense of your options for all your money questions turned the nerds at Nerdwallet DOT com. Hello I cast flagship. Podcast of the negatives might supervision where there is such thing as non winning podcast we. We've all gathered together in New York ourselves. I'M A FRIEND. Neil bone is in New York not a bending it away Miller's in New York. Hello we're all here is it. A sentence mega pixel is that A. Is that how you would say the Center Mega Mega Mega? Well it's it's been a busy week but I I would say our week has been dominated. Debtors life has been dominated by the galaxy. S Twenty ultra. Here's the thing that I will say to you. It would be nice to review a flagship premier amazing new expensive. Samsung phone without turning into dramatic fiasco as the is a person who was like. I gotta get through an hour of conversation. I I like the dramatic content. Yeah all right can be just trying to set some stage okay. Deeter bone works at the verge. Yes you review a lot of phones do I would say to lately. Trend is big companies messing with how phones are reviewed. Okay Yeah Little. Bit Right. So like Like Walt Mossberg Eastern Virginia along distinguished career at the Wall Street Journal. For most of that time a product would come out they would like someone would announce it. Yeah then they would give one to reviewers. Yep some time would pass yup in embargo with lift. Yes while would have been ago. She had an embargo like eight hours. Before hours you'll driving US crazy as young pups so walter. Viewed go out and then go out the next day but that's usually what happens fair. That is the standard format for all products. You nounce it. You make big thing you bring in a bunch of reporters and reviewers pretty thin. He gave the reviewers Rian. It's they go out in. The world used the product. You'd much calls about what they're seeing what they're not seeing the review other reviews trump today. I'm sure anybody listening to this. Has Been aware of like fifty reviews. Getting troppled saint time. Yeah this year has not featured that pattern to a large extent. Yeah and in this discussion. You might be tempted to think that we're just demanding that things go back to the good old days when you know we knew what the rules are Walton Bark and this is at this is just like the companies are trying to figure out what they want like how they want the phone reviews to work in a world that is increasingly got like influences and Instagram youtubers. That may or may not follow journalistic standards. Everybody that we like. Follow in talk about tends to. They've got you know. Just other ways that their phones get out in the world and so they're trying to figure out how to contend with that so sometimes there's like special like after the main announce an event there's like a special influence or event where they show up and have like a day with thing a room or whatever and other times. What's happening more and more is they'll just released the thing either to reviewers on the day it starts selling or they'll give the reviewers like yeah. Just start writing embargo. Whatever you want we then we all have to sort of like like a showdown like we all like look at each other in the virtual saloon. That is twitter. And we're like when are you GONNA draw? We decide how long but it's nice because then you get you get to choose how long you are going to spend reviewing a thing instead of trying to hit the embargo that you know everybody's going to hit but it also means that there's this weird like how quickly he should've written. How much time should you spend with it and Why did they choose to do it this way? You have this thing in the back of your mind when a movie gets released With no reviews. You know it's bad right. The movie studio wants to have a chance for like the first three days to go to get move ticket sales before word of mouth is like. Oh I know this is bad and I don't know whether that rule applies to phones or not. I actually really don't yeah. I think the the broad thing you're saying is true. That media landscape has dramatically changed for everything. When you're launching a product you want maximum exposure. In the old days of like two years ago reviewers are the ones we're gonNA your product Like there was not an ecosystem of other people following a variety of other rules. They were going to be a key landmark on the path to more expensive. Yeah we I mean there wasn't like I dunno medium. Yeah now there's a lot of people who like you can see the phone too and they'll just like produce some content around it fine like you can. You can go find a famous actor and be like. Here's a phone. We Post Five instagram photos of you. Being happy with it and do it so we can clarify it a little bit of the stakes here you. Can you clarify the trade off between I have a phone for twenty four hours what can I say definitively about it versus? I have a week like you know. What is that trade off? Oh I mean with the week you are more likely to discover bugs You have a much better sense of battery life much better sense of like performance over time you settle in with the thing. There's things that you might not notice in the first day like is the button actually convenient or not is the you know. Whatever weird way that it unlocks or that the the way the home screen works are like. Is this new setting to do this thing actually useful or not that you'll try it for the first day but like it's like trying new food. I maintain that you should before you project a food and say hate that food. You should eat it three times the first time. It's like octopus. I mean I guess the second time is like okay. I tried it once. I got through it but Try it again. We'll see see if I if I had actually maybe was wrong the first time I gotTa have and then the third time is like you know I really hate that thing but just maybe maybe. He was made poorly the first couple of tomatoes for three. This is how I approach pop music. I almost always dislike every single new pop song I hear. Yeah and then a few of them here on the second time at starbucks. That's how they get your your and then the third time. We're completely must-listen qualify. Probably the first person ever plato to me if I believe this okay. We should talk about the phone. Talk about the phone. All of this was like a big setup. A twenty twenty theme is big companies with the standard review procedure. Right that has really determined a lot of how reviews get made in the world for a very long time. Lata monkeying the first wave which was a disaster. I hope everybody learned. Their lesson was just to not give review units out and then dealer could discover that. The folding phone's broken so we tried that. Approach with the s twenty. They gave you the phone known bargo which is better or worse the embargo reasonably Rocco's creates a sense of fairness. Yeah right handed embargo. Someone's going to publish it the first day. Yeah in that one might not be any good. And you don't get to the person who's going to wait a week and do all. The rigorous testing is at a disadvantage. Well so the way it happens. A lot of people like a rolling reviews or like constantly updating reviews And I think that's totally fine We I tend to not like doing that because my first impression once. I've said it if I want to backtrack on it or I have something else to say about it I just. I don't know I'm slow. I like to like form a complete thought. Instead of telling you half thought that's twitter's for with Typos. Yeah tell you have thoughts on twitter all day long. Free twitter makes money. Yeah that's the real. Rub It okay. Let's say you got the phone. No embargo took you while your view is out yes dramatic so the one on this whole tangent about not a bidding and how. The camera works before so. I don't want to do that again. But the core of this phone is. It's five G. It's got a huge screen to the high refresh rate and it has an all new camera system that is radical departure in many ways from the way that smartphone cameras have worked before and as the biggest battery. Huge higher frustrates screened knocked. It out of the Park Samsung wins. We're making the best display on a smartphone. Yep just did it's great. I love it. The huge battery solves whatever? Problems might come from any number of things five G. draining draining your Your download your battery. Because it's fast no problem. Excuse me a battery which there was something. Higher frustrates screen. Del Problem. Whatever you do like the the papers over many problems because it's just a big ass battery create huge win five g you know it's five. G. It exists finding apologised. Ran a speech on thirteen down. Not Yeah you gotta go out to the street corner and standing one particular spot and then like literally praying motion the phone to change everything will just be more mindful. T. Mobile Five G. New York is mid band and so you can get better speed sort of everywhere. But it's not radically better anyway. I haven't got any robots surgery. He don't buy it because it's the five G. phones going to get it. It's got this new. Snap age sixty five processor That doesn't seem to me to radically change. Experience presumably a dozen that like allows them to do a bunch of stuff that like they couldn't otherwise. Do that frustrates screen or whatever. But the big big. Bet The differentiating thing especially on the twenty ultra is the one hundred eight megapixel camera and it has two problems one of which Everyone has experienced. Which is that. It has a hard time. Auto FOCUSING HUNTS FOR FOCUS. And you really see video You'll see it in photos but photos is actually. It took me a minute to discover it to more than a data discovered. Actually because I just assumed that you know I'm not that great if tougher which makes me a great Of Phone camera reviewer in some ways because like if they can make me take good photos and that's a good sign but I was getting a lot of focus focus photos and I was just like I must. I must be bad this But no it's actually as bad autofocus. That is one of those things. Take us on myself. Yeah all right. Always blame yourself But then the second thing and this is a little bit harder to convey even when I post photos on the website is everybody has a different set of thing and I could put up like an entire gallery might do that later but with faces in particular the assumptions that you can make about what the phone will do go completely out the window. So you you learn. A phone's camera will light things. In a certain way we color things in a certain way. You get a sense of what it's going to do so that you can trust it and then as soon as it sees a face it's like had just kidding we're going to change everything. This is the really jarring illustration in your review where You taking a picture of a guy he's looking at you. Yep He looks kind of orange a little little fuzzy yeah and then when he looks at forty five degree he it's the pictures way darker sharper completely different. Yeah and beauty mode is a thing. Skin lightening is a thing. It's a thing that often has like Like racial undertones. That are problematic We actually very specifically took lots of photos of lots of different people. Lots of different skin tones and do not think that Samsung is doing anything inappropriate in that regard tone but it is making these like lighting and white balance choices that are just impossible to predict when you see a face It might go green and Michael Yellow. Who knows it wants to get rid of shadows and so it just brings up. Mid Tones shadows way too much And then the worst one for me is the softening it does. It runs a softening filter on faces to get rid of like a little bit of blemishes. And I'm okay in principle with a camera doing all of those things including and especially the softening but there should be a button that tells you that it's happening and you should be able to turn it off and there just isn't that for the main camera it's just on. We can use like a pro mode. You can turn on pro mode but then like you're like you're going to have to promote every time in promote makes you turn on the set all the settings well the settings are all basically on auto and promote so like you could theoretically go to. Promo take the photo and it's like functionally equivalent to just leaving it. An auto basically sort of maybe the problem but not to do that. Everyone's going to hit the shutter button. Yeah the defaults matter the most these cameras like we review every camera with like a variety of pro camera APPs. Yeah it doesn't count. It's so to be clear Everybody does this faces. Yes this is correct so if apple when it sees a face the iphone apple literally calls it realizing the face they will re expose the face the you all their fancy competition frog for your the I there like we know this scene. We know what it should look like. We will face or to. Yeah it's the whole. What is a photo conversation like? They're they're sort of generating an image. That's closer to what they think. It should look like Google. Does this. Everybody's kind of re metering and re exposing especially HDR. Samsung is doing extremely aggressively. Yes To the point where turning your head. Forty five degrees produces just a dramatically different photo which. I don't really know what's going on here. It's it's hard to tell but it seems like Samsung's person detection. Ai Like only sees a person when you're looking at the camera and if you just think turn away the person like a break it's a totally different metering mode. If you just turn your ad that seems extremely like it's just confused about what it's looking at and then it is so so dramatic when it does seem that face the you end up with like just. It's just a weird looking photo. It's just too much and I didn't believe the believe me dramatic fiasco part one. Is I if we ask? It was a localized the DMZ between indeed just like is that happening is like many many more slacks have arrived forty five more photos. There's light room album. I was on a plane. I don't Oh and I was like you. Can't you can't look at this when you're on a plane because Google crushes there at the airport like locally so downloading files like looking at photos of detour on a plane. The people sitting next to me in the way he's looking at that guy but it's it's it's just obviously there. Yeah and then. There's the second part which I don't think it's quite the metering stuff it's like Samsung's look is still Samsung's look and they've toned it down a little bit. Yeah but the Combo Platter of the unpredictable metering and the focus and Samsung's look yeah is not good right and it it not being good when it's like to me. It's the most important feature of this phone to other people might be the five year the size but to me. It's that As Twenty plus right or yes twenty Which we will review but but like Google throws imaging algorithms at stock censor. Yeah in what they get out of. It is rock solid consistency. Yes right like a pixel photo. Looks like a Pixel photo. I think often produces winners. Like in just a comparison. I often prefer the Pixel photo. Apples gotten really good. This year. They there's sort of less consistent. I Dunno diffusion ever actually did anything. Yeah seems like maybe actually shipped it like? I don't even know there's no way to towel. There's not even a setting. It's not like I've been photos. Look very good on balance They've got a better like they're up there. Yeah Right. Samsung is inconsistent and weird. Looking is not a competitive zone to be. They have they do take photos. That are up there much of the time. But it's the inconsistency that's the problem and the the big swing of we're GONNA go one hundred eight megapixel camera. I think it's forty eight on the telephone. But it's forty on the Selfie and other bending and all the other stuff and you could take one hundred and eight megapixel photo mosaics all that extra stuff. I don't know how actually actually worth it was I you maybe you get the telephoto. Because that's like the other reason to get the ultra periscope blends with telephoto and I think at up to thirty x which is very impressive It produces good enough photos and at ten x eight x technically. Because that's how far the pixel goes so that's right tested it It wins hands down every time. Yeah like if you're doing if you're taking something eight x Ray and you're zooming in that far. The only thing that will do better on a is not a phone like a camera Zoom Lens on a real camera I did on the Sony. Arc's one hundred seven which has got a little two hundred you know. Yeah Zoom Lens on it but yeah like that is an automated unmitigated win but the question is what do you blame on like the new technology? Right is the autofocus function of the way that they're choosing to do phase detector. Whatever on one hundred eight megapixel sensor I think the answer might be yes but maybe they can fix it because that's the next part it's just. They've finally promised a software update to me like twelve hours reviewing up. Wait CAN I. Can I talk about that part? You're going to have much more. I'm just GonNa let you have emotions. Try step is through the canal. Okay so there's no embargo this is where we all came back all that the five minutes of inside baseball we did before this began. Yeah there's no embargo right so Rae Won- and Evan Rogers X. Person Did a really in-depth review the camera for input. They found autofocus issue. Yup Evan He was tweeting. He thinks the colors a little weird. Yep Okay but they published before everybody else. They were the first ones out the gate and to their credit. They caught the auto focus. It caught the focused. Yup Sasha's Siegen a PC MAG goes up. The I think the next day debuted. I think must have been the next day window. Great phone shouldn't spend this much money and so they fix the autofocus issue. Yeah I would say at this point. Samsung is like freaking out By this time I had already been on the phone with Samsung for like a half an hour being like here. All the problems indeed are has not yet looked at the autofocus issue. I have but I at this point. I was when when input up I was like having doubts and I actually at some point tweeted like does it may have been after their thing went up But I still wasn't one hundred center if it was like I was dumb or I'd like the hadn't learned the how of this camera because every cameras different criticism is at this point. It's a Lotta slack about the faces and the callers consistency. So He's been on the phone with Samsung with about that stuff. Yes and then put in P. C. MAG or like autofocus as bad. Yup I think at this point of safe to say like okay. Now we're like we're reporting the review like he's back on the phone and then Samson night was will we're always improving improving our cameras so When I called them Monday I think it was like twenty minutes. Here's what I'm seeing Blah Blah like. Yep Okay that's interesting good feedback and it was like okay anything else guys. Okay and so the statement that they would That they were planning a future update not necessarily a pre store release update just someday in the future. They will update the software to do unspecified things. came in just before the review. So I have to make a choice like one. Do I like wait for this thing someday in the future or do I like I just go? I like this is what I experienced on the phone. Maybe there'll be an update in the future. Go and like. I chose to do that in part because as Neil I said. I've reviewed a lot phones. Nikolai you've reviewed a lot of phones. one phone. Yeah what what happens when a company says we'll fix the camera with a software update never had and never ever never. I'm sorry maybe you can tell me. There is one time when one Nokia phone one plus did manage to slightly improve some some pretty serious issues a couple years ago the only Delta is like if the if when you put the shutter button the phone lights on fire fix that like it's like that you like the cameras and working generates corrupt issues aircraft files. Okay you can fix that in software the the video recording we forgot to turn on four K. sixty whoops okay. We've sulfur fixes a bug. Yep never does it actually change the quality of the camera that is one of the reasons I published. The one thing to say is like these seem the face filter filter stuff seems like a eminently fixable problem just like turn up down right whether or not they can fix. The auto focus is an open question and this gets more complicated. And I'm just GonNa say a thing and some people are GonNa get mad but let me finish the sentence. Samsung is not apple. And what that means. Let me finish. Is that apple is a monolith they are they are they are like centralized control everything and like the messaging is on point and everyone is in lockstep and everyone knows what's happening and what to say and Samsung is just like there's there's a bunch of divisions there's a bunch of people that aren't talked to other people so like there's apparently software update in Korea that may or may not be newer than the firm where I have that may or may not Address the autofocus issue. It's unclear I had a journalist from France. Say that he was told Like on Friday that suffer update was coming. Which is very confusing because I talked to them on Monday for a half an hour. What's going on? So all of that's fine but just a lot of people sort of tweet or we'll talk definitively that they know a thing about. Samsung but Samsung is not one thing. It's it's so many say Samsung. It's not knowable fundamentally not no yeah there many things to many people who work at. Samsung often do not know what Samsung is doing That's just they're just a big sprawling Like Multinational Corporation doesn't talk to itself very well. Which isn't some times which is funny because they make phone. Yeah but there's a benefit to that sometimes because they like they're willing to try stuff and do stuff but every now and then it's not a benefit because it's like what's going on with this fourteen hundred dollars Saito sir. Yeah which is a huge company and it is also true that the phone like a Samsung Galaxy S. Twenty is not a single product correct. It is a different product every carrier in every market Like for Isan gets its own like skew. Its Own Weird. Apps sprint gets its own customization. Like they're just like they make multiple multiple the logistics. That Samsung has to go through to get one of these phones out out the door at about the same day across the world is truly mind boggling. I I think it is probably like more of an accomplishment than what apple does what the iphone in some ways is there any indication yet if the ultras the only one with no we don't know yet to see any reviews of irregular galaxy s twenty s twenty plus so again the simple explanation for the differing software? Update things that we've which is in Korea. There's an update. The people who've been told about the supposed to be coming in France French. Journalists have destroyed have been told an update that fixes a bunch of camera issues are coming in the United States. So we don't know what's going on. Yeah you could just blame it as A. It's a sprawling global corporation arms a huge logistics challenge. They solve credibly or it is a multinational disinformation conspiracy aimed at theatre or you could be biased off. Think about if you're hype for this phone I. I don't want to think that I do not like this. I love this song. I'm concerned about the camera. And if they issuing a software update that fixes the camera I will be the happiest person that'LL BE S. I'll be very excited because I think that other than that. This thing is like very very impressive. So if you're excited for this phone don't be like Ugh like just wait and see if they do something. Don't wait too long because you know camera. Updates duffin don't pan out but never buy any product on the basis of promise exactly software update will never come and it will never do what you think it will. Yep there's just it is just true. The thing that I keep thinking about though is like the the thing the thing that I make on a regular basis that requires the most logistics is a youtube video. We have incredible directors and producers And they're very good at editing And they put so much more work into making thing that I do like punching words and when we're making this thing there's no take backs like it's you you can maybe do content replace every now and then but like you published a thing and you can't like Eddie Youtube it's youtube. Yeah so you like you want to make sure there aren't any problems you while you watch it watch it down you look for whatever you can And when something goes up on YouTube That is like it's not the highest quality or like. I said a thing and I kind of flubbed the line or whatever I definitely know before you've seen it I've seen it. I'm like well it's too much. I can't I can't fix it. We'd have to reshoot too many things it's going it's going out the door. I have to assume that inside Samsung. They knew the Deafen. You write the definitions okay. I've always wondered when when there's an obvious failure. Well let's let's let's say even simpler example Right there's the photo re-lighting there's the skin smoothing which has all kinds of cultural implications. Okay that's very subjective. Even if I think it's objective about but like whatever you're looking at it you're like we think a lot of people are GonNa like the way this photo looks. Then there's the zoom we have the printed in giant letters on the back of this phone one hundred space zoom zoom it to one hundred x you like. That looks horrible. So he everyone in the world can just be like. I wonder what hundred and you do it. You don't need some fancied photography skill or like professionalize. You're like this photo side. Yeah except every time I showed it somebody. They always what wo- they get. They get to have people go. Whoa short. That's what it's for. The thirty x is the one that's actually useful. The tax is great again. The better than the competition Thirty X is like usable. The hundred experts so that they can have people go. I think they could have done that at thirty X SO DO I. But it's it's it's cool though because it's showing you the maximum amount of information that this sensor can possibly obtain and it's not like every so actually it's not because they're they're doing lots and lots cropping so the way that the pixel gets the photos. They take a bunch of photos and easier handshake together more data and what is the photo etc etc? Samsung is taking lots of conversations. So much you know what is the essential philosophical as you as you are well aware. Samsung is also doing multiple photos. But what they're really doing. Is this curious? Mix of like Zooming and then sensor cropping. That's why they picked a high megapixel sensor they can do the bidding whatever. But when you start zooming in they can just crop down and still have a ton of mega pixels. Because there's a ton of mega pixels to work with. But it's just echoed a truck. That is a horrible photo. Sure but I mean this is one of the worst photos ever taken. It's like Brennan Very Far Away. Yeah it's like okay. It's like if I am a international spy. You know Microsoft Microphone. That works via like an aerosol spray spray on an object and now. I've got a microphone and I can listen remotely right like I'm not mad that it's not like dolby quality audio. I'm I'm proud of my achievement. I mean yeah sure like I understand that this is not comparable to a good photo of you being close to attract Yep but right now my phone can't get that Yup so outside bioterror. There's a dog park here New York and I saw dog frolicking and I was like. Oh this is a great opportunity to see if like what zoom does a thing. That's moving around so zooming in dog tried to get the shot shaky. Whatever and I couldn't get a shot of just the dog I I assume they took the shot like the owner. Watan frame that I hadn't really. They were like across the park and they went to go get their dog And then I like completely unintentionally. I just taken like this really creepy spy. I don't want this is going to be seeing the producing unusable product I think that if anybody thinks that they're going to get something that they're Gonna. WanNa like treasure forever out of one hundred zoom there Of Him. Yeah which is fine and then you can just like crop that photo. Yeah and that's what the hundred X.'s. In it looks better than if you try to take the photo one hundred six hundred access. That's thirty accent. I just zoomed in better. It's obviously better. Yeah it's just like they it's printed it on the back of the phone they did. They printed up one hundred. They're inviting you to try. This feature. There are very proud of it and then it's not there and I think that's the one where when you're like they had to know They definitely knew when they decided to printed on the back of the phone. Yeah but some engineer at Samsung like. I don't think we should do this Well it's something that struck me with your view. You're talking about like this it. Some ways is a gentleman device. Yeah I think so and that makes a lot of sense with this camera. Where like because a lot of what makes a flagship phone so good? Yeah is that a fudge phone has everything that the last model got right and then also some more right but when you completely replace apart and you have kind of a new image processing pipeline. You don't necessarily get to build on your prior successes. Theoretically there is more upside to Samsung's Like theory of how camera smartphone camera could work here than there is on Google trying to apply ever better You know software to You know bargain Bin Censor Yeah like if they can start. Continue to do interesting. Things with like combining on combining the sub pixels hundred mega pixels and they can like up there software game a little bit and you know just roll down the line. Theoretically like this could be like the this could be a step change. That's what they wanted to argue. They just they didn't finish it. Maybe they never will because Samsung but There's more potential upside here. They just haven't achieved it so and of course Google and apple aren't gonNA stop. There could keep making stuff. But that's like on two fronts. They're fighting this war in two fronts. One it is clear to me right now. And I I I do think this is debatable. But it feels clear to me. That on the computational photography smart hd our side of the world apple or firmly in the lead yes they are they are doing more with processing off relatively stock ish. Sensors than Samsung is able to do with their socks. Samson is throwing a bunch of hardware at this problem Bigger sensor not binning a periscope zoom lens lots of hardware being thrown at this problem. They still do not have the software chops to pull it off. Even if they're trying to do something totally different right. They're trying to. They're trying to process that censor something. That's better yeah. The the software problem solving is now different in like they have to solve the same problem. That apple apple and Google or solving and they also now have to solve this other problem that they've created for themselves but again if they can do what are both. I think that I think that the sensor is interesting. I think that they actually do have more upside but they have to suffer. I just took a hundred mega hundred zoom. This is tennis trach. Yeah that's just a person in a building. I just see a ghost. I don't know God so I I would say the. Here's the flag there. There are lots of well not lots. But there are several hundred eight megapixel sensor cameras in the world. Yes none of them have been good right so this if if that is indeed a different class of problem how do we make this sensor good well? Samsung de slightly different sensor different methodologies. The way the sensor works those other. Cameras Yeah. I think that this is better than those from what we've heard I haven't actually used the other hundred megapixel camera so I don't know for sure But it's harder problem to solve them. getting told me Pixel photo. Good Yeah and I just think that's like the they're the two problems are right next to each other. Yeah One how do we get a great photo out of the big harbour censor to how do we do all the fancy? Hdr computational photography stuff which is now a look yeah right like we're gonNA take multiple frames and composite them into one sort of evenly frame. What is the photo? What is the photo? That's just a look that people expect. Yeah so now you gotTa do both. And you're not in like no one has solved the the big megapixel sensor problem well and you're already behind that's just a lot of problems SAMSA. Cool thing is they can not that they can't solve it. Were they to solve it then. They've done. They've they've solved it like they could just put up. Yeah it's true. It's staying in the Front Yard. Just had an engine some wheels. Here be faster than you're worrying car. They released a software. Update that solves autofocus. Problem solves this sort of the randoms ation of style problem. Didn't this might be a really good camera. Yeah Yeah I think it sort of the baseline. Is it. Bright outside party taking photos spread outside of the Motorola Razor. So let's not make that. Yeah I like the idea that you're A. You're on team optimism. If they ship a software update that is unlike any camera software. Update in history. Right this'll be the best camera ever made right. Yeah I'm sure I'm with you my love to give another thing about. The setzer is is in fact physically larger than most phone cameras. Sensors have been to date. It is like physically larger just cramming officials in the intuition of all existing cameras is that that's basically the larger the sensor like the better off you are the largest censor constant megapixel count. You want one of those big is big pixels the deep wells because they're just trying to get more light these them together they not but but if you think about it yes you want more light per pixel yes but the so mation of all the light that you get is almost directly a function of the area of the size of the sense. Well so there's there's walls between pixels. Oh God did this last. Can we not talk about not sitting at this time? It's great it's a cool tech. I hope it works dramatic fiasco with global disinformation campaign aimed only at dealer. So I WANNA talk about one thing that you did like cameras okay. You love the Selfie Camera. Oh the cell. Phone cameras amazing. It does. It's forty mega pixels defaults to ten. So it's quite committing it's because it has beauty filters But if you turn them off it just takes You can see all your wrinkles and you know imperfections understand if you want Samsung has improved over. Its own portrait mode stuff. I think I would. I don't quite dramatically but noticeably But it still has that like sort of like Blackie texture. You know what I mean. But it's way better than it was before It's definitely especially in the SELFIE CAMERA. Better than what the Pixel can do The classic test is you'd like you turn your head to your glasses are sticking out a little bit and like can the portrait mode realized that that's part of your face and shouldn't be blurred a pixel still lifts that a lot of time and this thing got it. I really really liked to selfie camera way more than I expected to. That's Great Yeah. I mean I'm all in gigantic megapixel cameras. If apple wants to like really knocking out part they'd be like the front cameras. The same as the back camera never know upgrade their iphones They won't do that because they have to manage their vessels. I should say some people do not like the fingerprint sensor as much as I do. I think it's good enough. I'm happy with it and I I love just having the whole screen like not having a notch. It's just a big basil at the top is just. It does just feel differently every day when you look at it to like. Just have that huge screen with no interruption on it except for a tiny hole for the camera. Yeah the one. Twenty Arts is very nice. The one twenty Hertz is incredibly Nice Okay. So what happens next? We wait for the software update and We'll see what happens with it. And we review the s twenty s twenty plus which have high megapixel cameras But not not one hundred and eight. And they don't have the periscope lens but we'll see if anything different there Especially with auto focus. I think that's GonNa be the big one to to check and then Yemen. That's you know they. They sell these things and they're selling the S. tens for deep discount and. I think that the ten is still very good. Phone the S. ten does autofocus or the headphone Jack. Ooh also like fourteen hundred dollars. It's a lot. It's a lot of money for a phone. Yeah well yeah I mean it's got twelve or sixteen hundred for the the five twelve sixteen gigs of Ram but like you can pin APPs Ram right which is like then they just. Your browser just won't close in the back. Which is pretty cool During Fireball Darker Baroda Post. That was like let's be real about. How much phones costs he's like. It's okay to spend that much money and phone if you know how to get the use out of it. That's why like this is a tragedy quite like if they can fix the camera like that could be a potential use out of it there. There are other people who will be like yes. I will get fourteen hundred dollars of use out of this huge screen. The storage expandable storage. The on ramp that this has you know whatever they all the stuff that you can use the phone. Dax stabilized. Video if thought focused stabilize video Seattle Focus Works. It is it is. It's it's not a huge massive improvement over the time but it's a slight improvement. It stabilizes over like another access basically like the does a role now or pitcher. Something is better But it's not it's not. I don't think it's quite up to what The iphone can do especially with the offense really good at Adjusting color and light balances. You move out of shadow and I don't think that Samsung's quite there yet. You can shoot eight K. Though I mean I guess you just listed a bunch of things that could be considered a reason but like for me. I need a real specific reason in my head of why this phone. I'm going to spend more than spent on my last phone now. Understand like L. Every year I spent a thousand dollars on the phone. It's a lot of spin but I use my phone a lot. You know but like this year I'm going to spend fourteen hundred dollars. Phone like what changed. What so what? What new capability that does. This provide me five hundred Zim. Just try it and a beautiful beautiful screen and tons of Ram. Tons of beautiful storage is like not. Yeah you can get that right. You get that from one plus pretty cheaply yeah. It's a five G. radio to use one street corner praying position You sit on T. mobile and eventually it'll get certified for. At and T. G. And that that's better so it's that and if you would like such a thing And it's it's very pretty. It is very pretty. I think this is the year the two hundred and fifty dollar phone for it's coming events all right. We're until you break as emotional. Everyone needs a break and then Julia Alexander two weeks in a row Disney news. I strongly suspect it will be even more emotional for the next segment. 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I'm senior editor at vulture and I host the podcast. Good one eight podcast about jokes. It's a podcast about well jokes. Every week I sit down with comedian comedy writer or director to one of their jokes and figure out how it all came together. I don't sit down with a pin. The head physically. Write down everything I just has not. My style turns out comedians jokes pretty seriously. I like all jokes okay. That's what I do. That's what I live with is really nothing else I care about. It's all very revealing. What did you sort of learn from this? What was your takeaway? Nothing guy. I'm not. I'm not sure Mar Khorshid good one from vulture and the box media podcast network. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. Or on your favorite podcast APP. Do not use the puck apparant. Oh what a great question Jesse David Fox Julia Guess. Big News in the world. And Bob's Kevin just this week the media industry big news in my world. Yeah so I again. I was on planes this week so I spent some time on a plane. Washing data emotionally processed the galaxy twenty. And then on my flight back. I spent all that time in a plane watching you emotionally process Disney CEO Bob. Idir yeah stepping up. He's not stepping down. Step away. He just he just stepped to a more exalted role. Pulled baller moving the world. Explain what happened so Bob Eiger former? Ceo Snakes it's effective immediately announced that he was taking on a new role. He's the executive chairman of Disney. It's a role he made up. Yeah this is all just like I would like to do it Essentially in his mind he saw it as the perfect time. Post Disney applause. Post everything to go and just work with the creative teams and and focused entirely on the creative side of content at Disney Disney is a content company that makes a lot of sense and announced that. Bob Bob Chapman. I spoke to four Disney people yesterday and attaches last name and got different answers each time. I've ruin I talked to him. Bob Seat is important. Here is his name is also Bob. There's a lot of Bob's and Allen's and Kevin's at Disney. So many of them. There are three Allen's on that org chart and really the face of Marvel is a is a Bob. 'cause it's Robert so a lot of boats in there. Yeah Okay so there's provider and there's bobby see probably see the new guy. He's the CEO. Disney where did he come from? Yeah so he's been with the company for close to thirty years. He's kind of a company man. He was been in every department. He was part of home. Entertainment he was one of the leading executives on getting the distribution deal between Disney and I tunes 'cause he was like Hey I think digital's taken off an apple seems to have a grasp on it So he set that up then he got moved over to consumer products where he went to basically Clean House for. It was kind of like Paying your dues to get into the mall. And he got in He came he cleaned house. He went in and they were very anti-tiger. Because this was post you know a couple of years but post The Eisner Iger Michael Eisner who was the former CEO. Disney Bob Eiger taking over that happening as you guys. Basically he goes and he's like I'm cleaning. House then eventually moved to parks. He's instrumental in setting up the Shanghai resort. Which is a huge resort for Disney And then he became. Ceo that was the guy. He's a guy I would argue. He is not. I would argue people. Disney don't think he's the guy really so this is all very so this is what happened. This is what happened in by the way when I was Julia what happened. She didn't say Disney blogger stepped up. Now there's all this dramatic stuff this history of the new guy. Yeah but there's a thing that didn't happen here. Which is the Kevin Kevin Kevin's Kevin Meyer? Who Runs Disney plus yet? Whoever thought was going to be the CEO right is not the CEO Right. The other thing that happened is that everyone was surprised. Yeah because there is a lot of things that are happening. I had extended his contract. I think he was not even He's got a third. I think our into his contract extended He just finished his book tour. He was supposed to appear at conferences as the CEO of Disney and like a few months Clearly that he might attempt he's not going to be. Ceo So it was just really jarring came out of nowhere. It was a random Tuesday. Everyone I spoke to was just like something is happening. The conspiracy theories that hit my mom's. We're just amazing. Everything from he is going to be. Bloomberg's EP running handed a to Z sick To everything between So there was a lot of confusion over what was happening because it was so sudden and if we remember the last time there was a Disney executive change which I do regular. It was a long long public very bad process. There were it was just bad and Michael. Eisner was ousted and it was a year but they announced that there was a year changed and they were figuring it out and it all kind of move over eventually. This was like I am no longer. Ceo Immediately And that leads to a lot of confusion and scaring the markets. So that you didn't you didn't like my tweet and so I feel like I've justified in making this program you on here to read are bad tweets. So when when when Bob said he was stepping down to. Do you need to go get a drink later because it was so stressful? I did actually. Did you say that? That eiger augured loggers dater. No it looks like a brother to me I want you get the hell go to look at you. Say That because there's a lot of shame there's uses so good but there's this other underlying drama which is happen very suddenly yeah. It's Bob See who didn't who always seemed like he was in the running yet but maybe it wasn't the favorite the guy who runs streaming Kevin. Meyer was supposedly the favourite writing at the GIG. What happened there? So for my understanding. The thing about Bob see is that he is a company man and to an extent. He's an Agar companyman. He's someone who really kind of like idolizes Bob Iger and so he someone that I can mold into what they need to carry out the next ten years of Disney that someone who can then basically deploy what Eiger has set up and just keep that running the really great thing about Eggers said in a call to investors afternoons. Went out that. He's basically made Disney Holloway's autonomous machines. Because the heads that he has set up just are good at what they do. Kevin Feige runs marvel beautifully Kathleen Kennedy and John. Basically run LUCASFILM pretty. Well yes. That's a medium. Let's go down there Sean. Bailey does his job really well and then you've got Kevin Mayor whose exceedingly good at what he does Extremely good and he runs through new. Yeah he runs so his department is direct to consumer and international so. He runs a hot that he would also thou look over Hot Star in India. Like he looks over everything. My assumption based on what people told me is that Bob see gets job because the board really likes biopsy. They like the idea that he can be the Space Disney they like that he can basically companyman Kevin Mayor who's extremely good at strategizing. Who has the probably the best strategist Disney's ever had next eiger? Who came up that way to continue doing what they need him to do. In that's in that's really shaping streaming streaming era like. They need him to focus on that. There are other issues that have come up with mayor that are like people publicly reported. He's very aggressive. He's a bulldog he's kind of like that's his whole stance And that doesn't necessarily gye well with Disney on the public front. When you think of Bob Eiger you think Uncle Bob's what a lot of industry calm right. Because he's just charismatic lovable That works for the Disney brand and Meyer mayor. Sorry is just very good at what he does but is he the face of Disney. That's the question. The board has to look over and clearly. They don't with Bob seat in a surprise for PM Tuesday night announcement. Yeah I mean the great thing is that this is just in tune with what Disney has done. I mean twenty. Five years ago you had arguably the biggest public Disney scandal which was with after their COO. Frank Wells died Jeffrey Katzenberg. I'm WHO's now the head of Qube is now like I'm going to be your second in command. Michael Eisner promised in this apparently on a walk in like Salt Lake City Mike Wiesner goes actually going to do that. And then a few months later Katzenberg is fired and start streaks right and it's a public brawl who either fighting over this. That's how you get Prince of Egypt. Yeah that's how you get a bug's life in and literally the same day same thing happens two thousand and four thousand five right. It's like it's it's this is like the Disney story in a Lotta ways. So you think Kevin says this is the conversation. I had a former exact wanted. Kevin's Kevin Mind. A former executive told me he had a great quote and it was like you know you think of a a bake off in the second place winner doesn't necessarily stay around to see if they can win again. They go and do something else at the same time. You know. Kevin's got a really good position at Disney and he'll still get to work with Agar for the next. You know up until the end of two thousand twenty one so ir yeah. He's On for twenty two months until he added twenty to twenty two months until the end of twenty twenty one. That's his contract. He's executive chairman the CEO reports to him. Yeah it's great. It really feels like they just move some titles around. Yeah Jenny a he a great quote on CNBC. He just went. I DIDN'T WANNA run the company anymore. It was like a mood this yes I'm tired. I don't WanNa do anymore. You've extended my contract so many times already. I mean obviously for it to happen it on a Tuesday afternoon. Something happened right. This is the story was trying to chase. Something has happened for Bob I go. I don't WanNa do this anymore. Like I'm GonNa just take a step back to an extent and focus on creative At the same time keeps what he likes. I think he generally likes me. Think about content and work with Kevin Feige over marble and Kevin Maryland streaming and be able to strategize with them and figure out the next five ten. I think it said Bob Eiger finally. He's a busy guy and so he finally found the time to go watch Star Wars ride skywalker and NOPE. Wow and he's like what would eat into it but they can't Redo your stepping down Disney. Ceo Yeah so he can reboot. That's like Emmy Great. That's the ultimate like he's gotten the board like the masters of the Universe Disney Board Room. He's like I'm GonNa just direct riser skywalker. Actually we're GONNA pull it. We're going to do it next year. I'm just impressed that J.J. Abrams wasn't named the company. The reason I want to talk you about the mechanics of the change. Yeah there's the drama of the characters but Disney is the big player streaming wars. They like you're saying like our strategies set we've executed all the pieces and now it's just about creative also. I would prefer never think about our parks ever again. That's where he's a he's like. I want to run the boring parts. I just want to do the fun stuff. Which again is a mood? I am totally totally by that extremely sympathetic to that idea. But like where does it leave Disney in this moment where there's so much activity in the streaming war right? It's really funny because this happened at a time and I kept saying our strategies deployed. We're on the Disney plus front and while this is happening like yes. They have twenty eight million subscribers. Which is not. They'll do the the in there next quarter they're not going to get twenty million again Although they are launching internationally so who knows maybe they are I was just talking to someone who says they're working overtime on making sure that UK launch goes really well so they've got that but back home when we look at the content on Disney which is what matters. That's all it matters. At the end the day to consumers they don't actually have the strategy in place because to the original series that they came up with for Disney got moved to Hulu The third series. That's just who knows what's going on with is Lizzie. Mcguire big Disney Franchise And now that's suddenly is. No one knows what's going on with the showrunner just said it was considered too adult for Disney. Plus how lizzy McGuire is too adult for Disney dog. I would love to know So if you take out if you actually take out marvel and star wars to an extent Pixar Disney plus does not have much. They have a proud family remake. They have a mighty ducks series and they have a Turner series. I mean I. I love me some tournament but that's but that's it. Everything else is like Marvel and star wars which makes sense but from what I've heard is like the content side of Disney pluses undergoing because they don't have an identity. So what from what I hear from people have said is like I'm GonNa give slots to Kevin Flagging Kathleen Kennedy. You get three or you get to do what you want with it. I don't care that's what people are slots for. Yes so it's like every month or every three months you have something here and we need. We'll bring people in that way but in terms of strategy they actually don't have a great. Shijie place because they set out to do all these Disney plus shows then decided. They weren't made for Disney. Plus they were Hulu shows which is an advantage only Disney has 'cause they have multiple streaming services and now they're moving on streaming services right. At and T. has multi yes slightly different name. Tv now which does not compete with direct TV. That's exactly where is your strategy in place if you don't know what the identity of your core flagship streaming services. I don't think it is. I would argue. It's not I have argued last night for many hours with people at me so they have to figure that out and I do think eiger being able to just focus on that and not have to do. Investors calls every three months where he's like clearly board which dates like. I think that works out really well for him. The question is if Mayer leaves in the middle of them launching internationally in the middle them going up against peacock from NBC Universal Hbo Max Etcetera Etcetera. What happens to that streaming unit which is still undergoing changes? It's still undergoing identity stuff who knows I mean? He thinks it's in place because they have twenty million subscribers they're scaling they have partnerships they have content from star wars and marvel. That's really what's talk with that. Let me push on that a little bit. Do they right like the all? The good marvel people are dead. She mean Tony Stark. I was actually going to get mad. And then you said Tony I was like I don't know to feel now. The good ones like whatever Sort of marble so they got more of Alaska Marvel ask and Star. Wars is over right and then twenty years from now. We're going to read with the vendors that I'm assuming just drive you insane. Probably guessed the Yes. When they removed the avengers franchise has taught us. Anything we can tolerate a reboot every five years right. But like they're they're in a moment where they're they're doing like insularity. WanNa Vision right hardcore in the avengers verse to care about that. Yeah I would argue. That's true okay. Black Panthers great but like that's not GonNa do eleven films overtime right. How many vendors movie? So that's like forty five four right now. Four five actually panther isn't gonNA spun the show the way that sort of event respond the NCAA Star Wars. The coordinative is over. There's no new coordinative by just bits and pieces inside of militant Orien- doesn't that seem like the biggest problem for them. I mean this is why they're relying and paying a lot of money to people like by 'cause they're like you can figured out who they know that they know they're at a point where they've told investors this right where they've said it's twenty twenty is gonna be fine but it's not GonNa be twenty nineteen nine hundred right. We figured it out. They get us a lot where it's like. When does the marvel tiredness exhaustion? Kick in when you guys figure this out. They kind of keep proving that they have that they can bring people in just based on the marvel name in the Star Wars Name. People tune seaman delorean. There was nothing really. They're attached to the main star wars thing and then would it became a thing Except for the main thing and and and they're launching with relaunching their Marvel TV universe on Disney plus launching getting winter soldier which are too big captain America Characters. That people know from series. And I think they'll just kind of continue to lead with that where it's like. Yeah more Wanda Vision has two characters that union from vendors and it will tease us out in a Bendel. They've got Loki. They've got Hawkeye like they've got the big guys coming back. Are they going to get yet? Robert Downey Junior Chris Evans back. No they want to pay for it But at the same time they've proven after the after the vendors people were like what are they gonNa do now? They turned into a success. They turned guardians of the Galaxy and to success turned into a big success of the theme parks. they've they can figure it out really well. They used to be inventive with it. Which is where I pitched. Maija which is fast and furious but pod racing Have you considered changing name to Bob? Kevin that's a great pick. Make it though Kevin Ceiling. That is very clear by takeaways. At Disney's future success depends on on on Hawkeye. You just referred to. Hawkeye's one of the big guys. Huckabee was part of the reason why they succeeded in then game. Here's the from where I generally feel like people very bought so far in two. I think one of our news editors like hyme who just bought so far into the idea of marvel and star. Wars isn't even have to be anything to do with Skywalker doesn't ironman. They're just into the the idea of what it is. I think Kevin Feige has proven that they can bring people in just based on the idea that it is marble is going to keep people going through Disney. Plus I mean no it's why they have the simpsons rate. It's like there's a reason that you bring a show like the simpsons ending you go. You're done with this. You can watch the show but added in Lucasville Marble Pixar families. I'm kids I let me contrast this with other shooting. Work Editors Netflix. Netflix has a massive library. They bought a lot of stuff that make a lot of stuff. If you pay for an ethics it is almost certain that there is something that the algorithm will find for you or something you have never seen or something new right like there's so much new stuff happening affects all the time. Plus they're huge library. Even though stuff is going away. But it's just like vast library steph where you're like just play me something it will almost certainly you'll be new to you at least. Disney doesn't have that right. It's a very finite library and they're not flooding it with new stuff right at the same rate the Netflix does now and they've spoken about that. I mean that was the big question for two years when they announced it and they were leading up to answer those questions and he's not going to have the output of Netflix. We're not gonNA have that for many years if ever like that's just not going to be a rat At the same time they fox there is a lot of fun. I mean they put you on there they put the simpsons. There's a lot of stuff they could bring over but that stuff is going to. Hulu we'll silly X. men X. men is going to Disney right in that that's arguably more of a WHO I mean. This is the debate but like tell me why excellent is Hulu movies or movies cartoons and movies. The movies are going to Disney plus. They're already Disney. Plus what Tyler. Are they going to go under command? It would go into marvel. I guess that makes. I don't think of the Fox X. Men Movie says Margaret Issues. I yell about his deputy who and Disney pluses make any sense whatsoever. There's no overlap. Between what is it Disney plus thing unlike except that it's under pg thirteen and what is Hulu thing but even then they take. They're taking all their Disney plus made for Disney plus moving it to Hulu and then bringing stuff over the Disney plus. That doesn't make any sense. The original question. It's like they can bring stuff over from Fox. If they want to they they had they now own a lot of stuff that they can bring. If there's like Oh people are leaving. There's not enough to watch. Let's bring a little bit more. Titles we can figure out what works under. Pg Thirteen Logan is never gonNA hit. Disney plus would be incredible if there was an accidental way that ended up that would be phenomenal. It's never gonNA interesting. Plus that's a Hulu thing. Same with Deadpool it's just not gonna be on just but they do not bob scenes. Got Some wild ideas they do. They mean this is where. Hbo Max and Peacock COMMEND RIGHTS SO NBC. Three Warner media and NBC Universal. That's their big pitch is like not only are we building literally building new studios new networks designed just for streaming we also have all of HBO but then we have all these other networks we own and all these other shows we own house. Brands like a husband worked out real. Well Con- you look at Netflix Netflix. Losing all those right. That's the thing. Netflix is losing almost everything which is why they're pushing so much of their originals and why they're pushing so much like they're spending a reportedly like seventeen billion dollars on content this year. That's more than any other studio because they know they have to do that. Disney is going to get by on having a series like the mandatory and Y South Winter soldier every three months that people keep subscribe to and that will hopefully keep them there and Kevin Maher very smartly set in November with also. I wear bundling who really cheaply with. Because we know you'll probably get bored D- have you tried Hulu. Yeah like a smart move on their part. So when you hear Bob. Iger say I'm gonNA focus on creative. Yeah and then. There's a sort of problem of the big franchises have reached narrative conclusion. New Stuff. We don't know where what APP all content is going to live in. Does that seem like he's just going to start meddling with his studio heads? I he makes the right call. I heard a story that so Kevin Mayor was the guy alongside Eiger. Who's responsible used to bleed acquisitions? So he was responsible for all the major acquisitions alongside. Eiger from what I heard from a source. Kevin was the guy who pitched twitter to Disney. He was like no one thing they should by by twitter and Bob was the one who was like. Nah I don't know about that. I think we should like wait. Yeah they did observe decision. Yeah they're are also playing in a by vice right also. Seems like a good non call right so there's a lot of these things that happened that Bob I think has a lot of Twi people credit him as being visionary for what he does. I think that's where he'll come in. He won't go to Kevin. Feigen be like we consider doing This movie based on this random character. But he'll say I think we can roll it out this way. I think if we make this a Disney plus thing and we make that a theatrical thing and then we put this on Free form which is like their family channel. We can really work out a way that makes sense for all of our consumers and keeps it going and keeps the interest high. That's what he's always been really good at. And now he's just gonNA focus on that so he's going to focus on over. I I think intertwining all of the different parts of Disney's content. That makes sense. You know the big question now is whoever replaces Bob C. is heads of parks. I don't think they've announced anyone yet. they'll have to work with them on that figure out how to intertwine the parks into that way as well but I mostly focused on the next few years of content and that is going to be intertwining Disney plus the Atra Coal and network from a tile and the Disney plus. I know for free for all right. The streaming wars continue to be first of all dominated by Bob and Kevin's the Bob and Kevin Shuffling every day. You wrote a piece. You wrote a little profile. Bob See everyone should go read that. What'S THE NEXT BIG TURN? Do you think the next big thing is what happens with Kevin and so that is what happens with his division which is streaming international. Every talk to who works in those divisions I keep asking if they've heard from Kevin and not answer that they would but they're like nope no emails saying like hey discerning hasn't said anything yet nothing like Hey. Here's our new. Ceo You know like you work at a company happens. Your manager sent a thing going. Hey the started new things. Here's what's happening right definitely knew about this before it was happening. One hundred percent. You are always telling me. Yeah exactly So no one's heard from him so I mean people are not worried but they're kind of like what does this mean for us and I think the big questions if Kevin Stays for the next year. What does that relationship with him? And Bob See Lake because they've rarely worked together really and now they're gonNA have to suddenly work and by the way streaming which Bob Eiger calls. The future of Disney is the one area Bob C. has no like can relationship. So That's a fun movie where Bob Eiger for two and a half years has gone streaming is where the future of Disney as. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA take some theatrical stuff and make it a Disney plus show doing it this way. Disney plus movie and all of a sudden their new. Ceo has doesn't absolutely no idea what's going on with streaming extent like he's just not been involved with that So that's like a fun thing they're going to have to overcome. That's the big thing that Wall Street's going like how are you managing that? The road I keep using is that Bob Iger will be a buffer. He will be the guy that like talks through the Kevin's and he's like no no come. I'll figure it out. Don't worry like basically dad role right. He's going to be like. Don't worry I called. I'll deal with it. We'll figure it out and I think that's what he's going to do for the next twenty two months or whatever if Kevin leaves it's a whole new game it's like well. They have to figure that out. Pretty quickly because Kevin has been instrumental in everything happens with streaming all right. Keep Ryan Kevin Meyer. Yeah it's been my thing big Kevin Movement coming out Juliette. Thank you so much. We're just GONNA the streaming wars view from the field. 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The first substance in the second vaporize material does not include the first substance I think that substance Nicotiana. The method further includes providing a plurality of puffs from vaporizer the plurality of puffs based on the delivery pattern and including the first puff and the second puff the method further includes receiving user feedback associated with the delivery pattern in response to providing just like screw with puffed. Have ANY NICOTINE IN IT? Yeah I think the thing is like if somehow they can detect that. You still really want this. Puff this is not a cessation plot. This is get you hooked on more jewel plot because literally. The cliche is The pigeon in the room with the Button that gives it food and it hits the Button. The food comes that if it's consistent it hits about needs to its full Stops but the food comes randomly. It like hits the button till needs until explodes because that's feedback on your brain if you're a pigeon or a human with a gambling problem for example So if there's a I that is like real like giving you like trying to step down your team but the actual experience of it is. I don't know if you're GONNA get nicotine in your poff or not. What are you GONNA do? You're going to be the pigeon. You're just GonNa puff away does so. It's yeah it's a patent okay Jaw they've been promising. A smart vape It helps you kick nicotine for a long time One of the problems they have. Is that apple just kicked all vaping. Apps off the APP store. Default and apple doesn't allow Safari of Access to Bluetooth devices. Obviously so you see we're gonNA live in a world where android users quick. I'm saying in a world where the local processing power of the jewel has to skyrocket off your morality of like is Jewel GonNa make an arm processor is like the next turn of the screw. Just we live in a world where there already exists like android phones. That have vaporizer all right. Well we'll just see how that goes. Twenty twenty five is an patents argument but then you would never know. That's right. Keep this sort of literature. We've Gone Long. There's a grab bag of stuff. Lightning around 'em. Wc was cancelled due the corona virus. The current events by the way is literally sweeping the world We're going to have an interview episode With our health reporter Nicole Weizman And Elizabeth Potter deputy-editor. Who's kind of studying business impacts of the current virus? We're in this together and do a whole interview episode about that don't want to minimize it but NWC is happening. Virtually because it's not happening in Barcelona A bunch of the announcements. I'm just GONNA yell phone names at. Ud L. J. V. Sixty five G. seems fine on paper. We'll see if they can get the camera. Also it has the little screen case thing which man. Lg Just can't get anyone to pay attention to the screen. You mean a second like like like I do the duo but it's just an extra screen for your phone. Yeah Yeah exactly. Like the duo. Only they're not Microsoft and so everyone will forget that it's so it's a case for the phone that contains another full size screen. All right. We're the only other funds. Must this says. Sony did a phone with the headphone Jack. That's because I made the Expedia one to which expire one is the tallboy. They also have like an experiment. Many which is a smaller Tallboy So they they updated it. There's another version coming. They're trying again to Get it right with the camera Because Sony makes the sensors cameras on their own funds are always bad. We'll see what the time the special stuff going on there but they added back a headphone Jack. There wasn't one of the last one. They know they know how to give me back. While we announces may excess foldable with more durable display in the main access is one of the screen folds on the outside. Yes given everything. We know seems. Yeah well they've they. There's no like I don't know four eight layers of different kinds of plastic on the outside and make it work. That's right the display in the industry. It's like imagine if you put a screen protector on your phone and then you forgot and then you put another one and then it bent. There's a red meat phone. Yeah the the red meat phone is It's a sixty five and therefore it'll be g And this is like a bunch of phones that were like. Oh my God. They're they're coming out. They've got like the same baseline specs at the twenty has We'll see it'll be fine. Galaxy Buds Plus Christopher reviewed them. They're good yeah good battery life. The phone quality actually is good. The only thing they're missing is active noise. Cancellation which are there. There's not a losing a lot of announced wireless buds with action wants cancellation. But they need it. Yeah well there's there's there's already I mean there's the ECO buds from Amazon. And then there's a Sony's which are well regarded becoming a gigantic case. Yeah the funny thing. The one thing that is bud don't do they They will let you pair with multiple devices. But they won't switch seamlessly between them unless you have a bunch of Samsung phones. In which case it's totally a can of course proprietary Bluetooth think about active noise cancellation ear buds. I am living with my sister in New York. She got the airports pro because her regular air pods died. And I have no idea how to get hurt like it's A. It's a dice roll whether I need to yell at her to get her attention or you know wave her. Do something respectful to to to make her aware that I'm talking to her. Because these are apparently effective. Yeah that noise cancellation. It's good. They're really subtle so you don't know necessarily that she anyways yes. Dinner was sitting next to me in the office all the yesterday. I kept on just yelling at him. Respect I feel like this is is this could lead to a breakdown of the best part was. I wasn't listening to music. They weren't even on. I heard him the entire. All right Do you want to run US through this? Xbox series stuff I I am so stoked about so Microsoft. Kind of cons- confirmed some details about The series which is really great in this this case where the players five like basically until specifically proven otherwise. You can assume that every feature hardware wise that you get on the xbox you're going to get on the playstation like it so I'm sure they will find ways to differentiate. I think Microsoft wants to be the fastest sales like Sony. Might WanNa be the cheaper one who knows but like right now. They're both getting the same general batch of very good. Amd stuff so xbox Microsoft xbox series x love twelve teraflops GPU which to put that in context is about where the high end is right now of desktop. Gp's wow it's like it's faster than anything that amd has right now. So they're really they're really pushing it And then everything every other little detail that comes out is just like it. Sounds like exactly like like my like wishlist for what I would want a constant like the HD two point one which is include variable refresh high frame rate stuff Microsoft is focusing on low latency throughout the whole chain from the from the controller. All the way to the screen Hd Two point one has this thing where you can request the game mode from TV. So the lowly NC. You don't have to dive into the settings to try to find the low latency settings And then another detail that they just shared. 'cause you know. Sony myself have been talking about these really quick load times or zero load screens. Because they're going to have fast envy me Sst's this next. Part IS AMAZING MAJOR. Nelson on his podcast is talking about his experience with this is like the low times are really great and I could like switch between games and they just start up right away it's also but then I had to reboot the consul and after it booted the safe states are still there and so I can just resume the game right away. Like even after a reboot which it just like I feel like we. We really downgraded how much we're waiting on our consuls between the three sixty and xbox one air because the drive didn't get any faster. Internet connections. Didn't get much faster and the files got way bigger. But I don't feel like they're addressing it now. Yeah I'm very excited like the the the incident resume of glass game. You're playstation or switch. You know like I love that makes it more likely that I'm going to play the game because I know I don't have to wait for it to start and to have that work for multiple games huge And to have that work across reboots is just. It's just like breaking right and then something that Microsoft is also really into is that they're calling smart delivery so and and one of the first publishers like promised to do this like obviously Microsoft will do this with their own games. You buy the game and now you own it across any compatible consul so so you and Cyberpunk Twenty. Seven seven is is announced. It's GonNa work by cyberpunk twenty seventy seven for the xbox one you now own a copy that will work on your next xbox or if you buy when you buy on the next xbox but you bring your game over to a friend's to play it will work on and they have the only xbox one they don't have the new series x l work on their council so like there's some kind of a poor portability. The scary part about that is that the real game is no longer you know it was already ceasing to be the physical object that it's definitely not the physical object. What happens if you take a photo of the game with a Pixel at night and it combines multiple phase together and a composite? What is it sounds like? Gd Sees Microsoft just pulled out because epic epic pulled out. We don't know if she's going to keep going but that's another one of these. It seemed like it was going to be a moment. And now we're going to bleed out some more information over time. Gpc's game developer conference. I don't I don't know all the like how much they were gonNA announced. I'm sure they were going to have a bunch of meetings with Developers and show them a bunch of stuff. I think that If I've worked a game company and I want to figure out how to handle The cancellation of a conference and to try and get some attention for my phone's that otherwise would have definitely got intention for the conference. I would not do what everyone is done in the wake of Nwc Think I made fun of people not paying attention? Lg a minute ago. If they had been able to launch that thing that you see they definitely would have gotten more attention than they're getting now. Yeah because I would add an event. Yeah it's different for a big company like Microsoft. But these these cancellations of these conferences really hurts the mid tier bottom tier companies. That like that's their chance to get some attention At a much easier way than they. Otherwise we'll know yeah okay. Last bit apple released white papers the MAC pro and pro display x. the are you should read them. They're very funny. Apples very proud of itself looking at me and he seeing me smiling at him. Because all I I just need to like start saying words to troll him to three hour rant. But I'm not going to do now. The our review of the MAC pro and the pro display is coming next week. It's a very close. It was just too busy week. There is a dramatic fiasco twenty. We didn't WANNA stack them all up. It's coming on Monday but I just two things. I WANNA point out for these white papers. one You you're not supposed to shine a light at the back of the payer display acciari because it has sensors in the back in the front. Yeah so if you like point a light at the back of it screws up the display. I think that notice in the white paper just for our friends who are youtubers behind anymore and then for the Mac pro in just a little. Tease apple is like hey core counts go up. In these processors. Clock speeds go down So make sure your applications are multi threaded appropriately because they might actually get slower depending on if you buy the more expensive processor with more closed more cores. Solar clock speed should have gone thread ripper. Just put it out there. Kompromat saying a word about it. It's just a little piece of information I want you to have and you'll see it next week. Our view the wheels don't have locks on the table scandal. That's Marquez rallied. That video that's funny. Okay that's it. That's the first cast of a thing to plug. It's a newsletter called processor. You can find it. The verge dot com slash newsletters read it mostly daily. It's about computers. If you've enjoyed this show have you thought about it with an editor in an e mail very much right there you can tweet us? I'm reckless policies. Your Paul de at back lawn but said Paul Promo Code.

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The Struggle Is Real and Great

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

31:38 min | 7 months ago

The Struggle Is Real and Great

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight. Podcasts for Thursday February Twentieth Two thousand twenty. I'm buster only down at jetblue. Park in Fort Myers and back and Bristle Taylor. Shrink Troy Farkas manning the board news notes before we talked to Carl. Ravitch ABOUT ROB. Manfred and now. He's boxed in decisions that he may make against the Houston Astros Giancarlo Stanton address. The Astros signed ceiling scandal in meeting with reporters on Wednesday. And he says he could've hit eighty home runs. If you knew put pitch was coming you said the eight home run comment wasn't to make it about me. The point I was trying to make is that if I was part of that team and got a home run record doing that. There's no way that would be upheld and not have asterix or taken away so neither should their accolades is what I'm getting at with that Joe Girardi was on with Golic and Wingo talking about the fact that the astros players weren't penalized. You know there's some people that lost their jobs. That really were the people that had to pay for it but there were a lot more people involved and you know the financial gain for the players are substantial if they have big seasons because of this. So if there's no punishment for them I'm not sure that it stops I. I'm really not sure because the financial gains similar to the steroid era. It's very similar like if you know what's coming and you have a big year and you're a free agent. There's a lot of be made. Their players want to take care of the family. So I'm not exactly sure what the right answer is but I don't know how much of a deterrent. It is for players right now. And WE KEEP ON WAITING FOR COMMISSIONER ROB Manfred to come out with new guidelines penalties moving forward and also waiting to see if he comes down with a hammer in another way against the seventeen astros. We'll be talking with Carl about that before that I wanNA mention another of ESPN's podcast hoop collective. Brian went horse. Anderman were in Chicago for all star weekend and they were asking players and interesting question. How early on in their lives? They realized that they were better than good. They get some unexpected thoughts from the NBA's youngest stars find it wherever you get your podcast. It's the Ravi with Carl ravage. The Rabbie train was down in Florida earlier this week for a sit down with baseball commissioner. Call Raby how you doing. I'm good did you. Just call me the baseball commissioner or are you just suggesting that I was with the Baseball Commissioner? 'cause I well I said you had a sit down with the baseball commissioner right but you know what I should be a good commissioner at this point rob. Manfred might even want you to take over as commissioner after this week at least for a temper temporarily. How're you doing? We're everybody and their mother has ideas on how they could do things differently. And they should all be commissioner. I'm doing great the idea that we're going to have You know Spring Training Games and I think the focus will shift a little bit. Different markets is is a very good thing and I'm not running from this at all and I think there's a lot of things that still need some resolution but I think it will encourage people to recognize. Spite of all this noise there will be actual games being played on the field which is a really good thing which is why. I want a leadoff. Today we will get to your sit down with the commissioner in just a second but I want a leadoff today with some news around baseball. I thought this was really interesting. Our old friend and colleague David Ross. Announcing that Chris. Bryant's is going to be as leadoff guy announcing that in the middle of February talked about how Kris Bryant is really good at bat gets on base is probably one of our best base runners. His baseball like you is extremely high. When he talked about putting the best players at the top of the order. I want to put him at the top last year. Carl cubs rankle last in the majors and on base percentage from that leadoff spot. I like it. I've always liked the idea of putting your best hitter. I guarantee the best chance to get him as many plate appearances as possible. What do you think it felt like? that David Ross. And Jed Hoyer and Theo Epstein and the interviews that they had to see who would be the next. Gm David Ross. Probably throughout the idea that we're getting or you guys are getting no production from the leadoff spot. I would consider somebody like Kris Bryant to be my leadoff hitter. Ooh Well that sounds interesting. Okay that's different. That's something we haven't really done here very often. I mean look. He is replacing the guy who used more lineups and shook things up more than any manager in baseball but the concept of Engaging or reengaging Chris and getting him to be excited about baseball at you. Contribute to this team you know. There are a lot of positives in a decision or a conversation like that. I think what you have to do when you do something like that. And I'm sure David knows this and it's been discussed is that if in the first two weeks you know. Kris Bryant is three for twenty seven Do you abandon it or do you stick with it and I think a lot of times We tend to see guys abandoned things and it'd be nice to see him succeed but if not let's just stick with it. Let's let's ride this for a little while and allows somebody to get their footing hitting lead author a little different than hitting third or second or fourth along the same lines and you mentioned Joe Madden I think he has one of the more fascinating lineup. Seta Lineup decisions to make. Because of course he's got anthony rent down and he's the best player in baseball and Mike Trout and he has Shohei Ohtani. I personally would love to see him and philosophy that what we're seeing from David. Ross put my trump leadoff spot put Otani in the two hole put down in the three hole in. Put the pressure on the opposing pitchers. Right away I know. Generally speaking in the past they not put trodden. Lino spot because they feel like. Hey let's take advantage of his power. You know what I I love coming right out of the gate at the opposing pitcher. What would you do it? Would it would be a really compelling lineup for sure you know I think you could go almost two ways. I think you could lead off and then have either trout or Otani hit. I think you could do what you said. Have Trout leadoff. I don't think you leadoff Otani but I do think you have the flexibility to say you know what? Kinda wanted to experiment. Let's let Anthony lead off and let's have Otani the lefty bats second and troutbeck third or you put Otani third and you have right left right so I think there are options to me ren donors. The leadoff hitter is as intrigued. Well I wouldn't say as intriguing but is intriguing. Trout is just more intriguing. Because he's you know it's like it would be like leading off Aaron judge except trump's shown a little bit better ability not to strike out but you're you're bringing you know you're bringing up your middle linebacker to hit I which is of course against the conventional longstanding norms of. What a leadoff hitter. You Know Kenny. Lofton has been in in our time Ricky Henderson. Who's a home run guy? It would look very different but I sure I'm you know me. I'm open to most things at least at least for a while. Let's try it. Yeah we'll see if they want to do something like David Fletcher leading off or some other secondary guy and then having trout in that stay in that to spot then maybe random maybe then maybe Otani but that'll be texting back and forth with Joe during the winter about this. That'll be a fun series of decisions. That he's gotTa Make Bleacher tweet from Robert Hardy. Ask Carl who the key names who could pull the lever on D. H. in the National League and will it happen for two thousand twenty one. Is it happens in two thousand twenty two when they both through the next collective bargaining agreement and the key names to pull the Levers Tony Clark and Rob Manfred. What do you think as it as it stands now assuming? Both of those guys are in the position. They're currently in when that That that agreement gets finalized. Those those are always going to be the two key names. Whoever runs the player's association? Whoever runs Major League baseball you know they are the deciders and I think I think what we've learned from this situation that we're dealing with now with the cheating scandal is You can see somebody losing power. I really not saying this about Manford. I think he's he's firmly entrenched as the commissioner. I think he has the support of Of nearly most of the owners in the way that this has been handled short of using you know the term metal when it came to her a piece of metal when it came to the trophy but I think he's firmly entrenched. I think the players association has some concerns about their leadership and the the level of fracture that we're seeing amongst amongst its members and you know I hope for his sake I like him. I hope he stays in that position or is able to get everybody behind him. But I don't. I don't see another name. Currently that would have an influence over when the D. H. moves to the National League More than the two guys negotiate the agreement. You agree with me. It'll happen in the first season after the is agreed to you know it's the whole. The whole dynamic between the two sides is so fluid Part of this and I'm sure we'll get into it with the Manfred conversation but part of part of all of the stuff that's going on here. Is that that very delicate dance. That both sides have to do in order to enable them to continue to work together to establish you know sort of the foundation of a new collective bargaining agreement. You can't just come out and napalm the other side with what they're doing or their ideas because ultimately you gotta work together for the veteran of the game and the future of the game so I think that part of what we've witnessed here is a is a very delicate dance between these two sides on how to work their way through this scandal. Show that there is some shred of connectivity between the two sides that allow them to continue to work together one hundred percent. And you hope that that improves as we go along another on the field issue when a raised you Aaron judge yesterday Continue to be held hitting drills. He's dealing with a sore right now. Shoulder Aaron judge said when I buzz judge on a real quick. He said he's game ready. I hear that but Karla. I'm concerned about Aaron Judge. And hoping that he can stay healthy. What do you think well I? I don't know you know to me like other players that are showing up at Camp That are game ready. They are ready to play. There is no conversation about well. We're GONNA maybe miss the first few games There's a reason that you're leaving somebody out of a lineup. Understanding the long picture understanding the goal of having Aaron Judge Get as many facts but but again if you don't look at it as a yellow flag then you're colorblind. Because you're missing the big point which is we are paying attention to this. We are concerned enough to say and let everyone know when you don't see Aaron Judge in the first couple of games Well there's a reason for that as opposed to everybody's ready to go. We can't wait to our everyday lineup out there for one at that so you have to acknowledge the you know the elephant in the room. It exists it's real and sure given that we had this last year with Aaron Judge Given how much pain he was really in that wasn't discussed of course. And when you come back off of an off season you know. How many times have we asked? Wh- why didn't that particular player in any sport? Have something done. That would allow them to be healthy when we all return as opposed to and this is not Aaron Judge. But how many times did we had that conversation? So that player is having surgery three weeks before the season two weeks before. Spring Training. What happened in November and December? You know why did we wait? I guess that's not the case. But yes buster. You have to be concerned When the conversation like that centers around a centerpiece of your team all right and I want to spend two minutes talking about the Tampa Bay rays camp the other day and the thing that jumped out to me. Carl just walking around from field to field. This might be be the deepest Tampa Bay. Rosser that we've ever seen They're outfielder off. Meadows Kevin Cure Meyer Hunter. Renfro many Margot infielders Willie odometer. Yandi the Joey Wendell and Brandon Lau and Jose Martinez and G May and Choy and this Newcomer from Japan. And I'm going to put in the pronunciation of his last name though. I asked Yoshi Sue Sugo or Su to Su go is what I was told. And then you ever tation of Snell and morning. Glass is a great bullpen. That that to me like I did a power ranking in mid-january given all the astros issues going on number one for me the Yankees Number. Two the dodgers. I got the raise number three. That is a team. Carl look what I've said this all off season There there are a couple of factors that have gone into The optimism that Tampa Bay should have one is the dismantling of the Red Sox when when the team that you competed with Loses mookie. Betts and David price and their manager things dramatically impact. You this is a team that felt great about itself last year. This is a team that went in and played great in the playoff game And just sort of destroyed Sean Managua. And we had an unlikely hero kind of go deep a couple of times in that game They have a manager who like Alex Cora when he was in good standing with the red sox completely controlled the clubhouse. The players respected him. The players liked him. Aaron Boone's and other guy There are a billion reasons including health. We haven't heard. We are not going to use Charlie Morton in the first couple of weeks. We're GONNA have Kevin Meyer sit his first few at bats You Know Tyler. Glass now is still struggling a little bit. None of that stuff is coming out of Tampa. They're more concerned about a plan to maybe move some of the Games to Montreal In in a handful of years then they are on the field. I I agree one hundred percent and part of the reason. I think the Red Sox it what they did was the realist in the room has to look at the race and say we're not. We're not as good as that team. I'm sorry we're not. We don't have the pitching they have We have far more health questions than they have. And as we all have seen and you and I you know have access to different players. Different coaches and different managers the raise or like the as but probably a little bit better in that when you talk about everybody inside the game knows just how damn good they are very well run and I agree with you. I think the fact that you know there's such preeminence with the Yankees and the reason the division I actually think it makes it easier for hind bloom to make decisions with the red sox and the be aggressive and to trade. Jackie Bradley Jr. at some point. Trade Brandon Workman capitalize on his value. Right now within baseball because the Yankees are that good you mentioned about you know. Everyone wants to be commissioner. I don't know if you saw this last night. Jose can SACO tweeted out Ready to be baseball's next commissioner of all the things on the table at this point. That's not one of them. What was it like to sit down with rob the other day and what really jumped out to you but at the end of the interview you were like wow. He said that well. I think you know to be honest with you. I think the sort of physical appearance of the Commissioner. You know anytime that I've engaged with him He's generally up. He's generally in what looks to be really good wide awake Spirits this was a Sunday morning. It was about six thirty. Am when he showed up But he just looked like this taking a toll on him that he hadn't anticipated I think the blowback and all of that has been far greater than he ever thought. I think the idea that you have players fighting with players Believe it or not does impact him in a negative way. He is the Commissioner of the sport. He may work for the owners and yet it is his sport. All these elements are under his purview. And the idea that you have this. Much infighting in your sport is a reflection of and a mandate on. You Know Rob Manfred so I think the struggle that he's dealing with is is real and great. Some of it is his own doing others. Of course are these Fires that sprout up every single day with some of the Marquee names in baseball? That struck me in hindsight describing the world series trophy as a piece of Metal Wall. Very dismissive of its significance in the spirit of what he was trying to say was one. I'm doing in my opinion real. Serve a huge purpose that there will very much be a conversation around the two thousand Astros five years from now twenty five years from now fifty years from now that we continue to have about the nineteen nineteen Chicago White Sox. That's a hundred years ago and here. We are in twenty twenty still talking about them. Never forgetting the problem with with that. Is that there is a generation of folks especially the younger ones who aren't able to connect those dots they wouldn't know who the Nineteen Nineteen. Sox Are 'cause they're still ten to fifteen years old but eventually they will learn about that team and the reason that we talk about that team. He's Kinda banking on the idea that we will eventually talk about the twenty seventeen astros the same way you do about those teams You know they have done things that are so egregious and violate the norms of major league baseball and break rules. And you made mention of this about Robin standing. It's been interesting to me to do. Talk Radio shows around the country. This week I and Munich this podcast. It's going to come out on Friday. The question comes up. He knows rob Manfred in trouble. And I'm like no like like in my opinion. I don't think there's any way he would be in trouble I get. It hasn't been a great week for him. He's getting hammered by players. Every day people are calling him in idiots on twitter and social media. But this is someone who has been tremendous in terms of generating revenue for the people that he worked for and those are the thirty owners. I think he's absolutely on solid. Ground you better than I do. What do you think your? I'm absolutely not worried about it. And I think that anybody who and it's very easy I mean look he. He is walking around and he has a bullseye on his back is front his feet is head you know he is an easy target right now. And it's very easy for twitter verse and fans to follow in the footsteps of for the Aaron Judge's and the bellinger's and the trout's you know you think about it you have the biggest names in the game. You have the biggest markets in the game. You have some of the most vocal fan bases in the game. All kind of being led to the same target rob Manfred and look. There's a reason they call them followers on twitter. There are a lot of followers out there that will go with Wherever they're taking by their chosen leader their guy and their guy has all pointing the finger at somebody who in their world you know didn't punish the players enough and he's kind of pushing back a little bit and suggesting give it time and I did but no he's. He's in my opinion in no trouble at all. I will say no bygrave. I think I think the players have given him and out here. I think he could easily sit there tomorrow. And say look after internal consideration after discussing this with my trusted circle after discussing this with Hall of famers and after listening to the majority of players who have spoken in the near unanimous voice. I've decided that perhaps I was. I was short in in not considering enough to take away the title. I will listen to what everybody is saying. While this is my decision I am basing my decision on all the information that is that is Come forward since my initial decision and I do think that scratches the itch of everybody that is looking for a pound of flesh because I think there was the distinction between disciplining twenty game suspension. Fifty game suspension and punishing. Which I think his intent is I think when he says look. This is something that these players will wear. The rest of their lives is a punishment. Well I think if you take that trophy away and you vacate the title. You have subsequently addressed all those who want punishment just to follow up on that one of my questions it's popped up that is I don't know and let's face it. Everything and I don't think that casual fans understand how boxed any is by the fact and this isn't a criticism of the Union but the fact is is that he has to work under the terms of collective bargaining would with a union which limits a lot of what he does. I don't know if he has the power Carl to unilaterally strip the astros of a title without being challenged. Because I haven't run this past Tony Clark but if you're Tony Clark and you have players who had accomplishments who were given immunity on that two thousand seventeen and Major League Baseball says what they did is invalidated. I suspect the Union would punch back so I don't even know if he has the power to do that unilaterally and I wonder if that could be part of the equation for rob as he decides what to do just on that point. What you think. It's possible then float the trial balloon that I am seriously now considering vacating the title. And let's see you know you can flow trial balloons without declaring doing this And you know I was on with rich. Eisen yesterday and he brought up. What I thought was an interesting point although I don't think it's possible given this relationship given immunity is like look. They may have granted immunity but they didn't grant anonymity but let's let's like we have seen in the world of politics. Show me the evidence. Show me what these players have told you. You don't need to attach a name to it but you can certainly suggest that player x told me this. Here's the here's the quote from player. Y on on when we decided to use you know the bat and the garbage can yes player X Y and Z. All confirmed that in the two thousand. Seventeen world series During game two. We did this you know. I don't know but my guess is that by granting immunity you are you are at least Having to give pause to Exposing the quotes that were given to you. But it's a fair question I guess is he has the ability to do that and again I think it would. It would move. It would move the school of public opinion at least off of him and maybe back into his court to say look. I'm considering this. I hear what what the majority of people let alone players are saying. And I'm going to consider this now because I may have may have shortchanged that and I'm at least considering and last one for you along those lines and trying to think of a way for rob to thread the needle boxed in by the presence of of a union. You know what's been done with the decisions made in the investigation the immunity my dear yesterday and I ran this past some team officials and there was a lot of support for this was for rob to basically asked the owners for an unprecedented resolution of censure acid. Twenty-nine owners to vote on it. And I suspect that it would be twenty nine to one in favor of a censure of the two thousand Seventeen Astros to be attached to the records forever. So it goes down in history. Two Thousand Seventeen Astros have this scarlet letter C. Attach their names that they cheated to win the world series and to do that and then to forty two the players and said look this is what Major League Baseball is done under. Its umbrella we would very much welcome. You seconding this to To put this down in perpetuity that the entire sport recognized that the Houston Astros and what they did was unacceptable and they were cheating and he doesn't need the union's permission to do that and he also would brand them forever and if you're a member on that team you can never escape. That and I know feels light. And it's not as great as suspending a player taking their money or taking away a trophy but I think it would be lasting you like that idea. Yeah to me that you're formalizing what? He believes he's already done. You know you literally are formalizing through and through. Is this sort of scarlet letter which he believes he's attached to everyone associated with the two thousand seventeen astros just in in closing the three things that you've got that. In my opinion you have to remember here. He knows labor law as well as anybody out there talking about labor law. That's his background. So he is. He's aware of the box that he's in. He understands about immunity. That's number one to this dance that he's got to continue to do with the Players Association. I think both sides are starting to push a little bit To a place where this thing may just blow up and all of a sudden you realize they're not even GonNa talk to each other because they're sort of violating what may be either spoken code between the two of them are unwritten code between the two of them and thirdly and most importantly whether it's a censure whether you strip the title whether you just leave it as is we have and. I think this is Aaron Judge's and other people's points we have gotten to a point where we refuse to acknowledge the fact that we are rewarding or allowing team to win a championship. And not do anything about it by cheating. And you you simply cannot if we if we are going to be honest about integrity of the game. Let's talk about integrity of the players. The players showed very little integrity. When they cheated you cannot send a message to a ten year old a forty year old or a hundred year old then in your sport it was okay collectively as an organization to cheat and subsequently been rewarded with a series championship. You can't do it absolutely Carl. Thanks for doing this. Okay guys look to Uh some games earlier this week. Milwaukee brewers signed brock. Holt and Craig Counsel. The brewers manager General Manager David Stearns talking about that decision given listen. Brock's yeah true. True Multi Position Player include the Outfield Nat Plays played all over value. Has Been to clubs and that he's played all over kind of. I told you don't know where you're going to play this. No defined spot free play. And so that's that's the kind of guy where we you know. You know you're going to need it now. It's it's there for us. Brock has a lot of things that we like in a player. It first and foremost is all you guys. He plays all over the field And we really liked those types of guys. We don't feel like you can have too many of those types of guys he gives. Craig tremendous flexibility allows them to mix and match and variety of different ways over the course of the season depending on who's healthy before replying he hits from less play. It's right handed pitcher. We'll see a lot of pictures and art division in our league That's pretty attractive. And he's a tremendous guy in the clubhouse leader tweets just already buster. We Got David Baseball. Fan Nineteen Eighteen D. C. Guy Will give them a little shine here. Medusa myself he asks. Are you surprised that the cubs in the Indians having seen the red sox got in return for a one and done mookie? Betts haven't traded? Brian Orlando yet. I don't really see either player resigning now. Not the same because mookie. Betts of course is a free agent in the upcoming fall whereas both Bryant and Linda are under team control for both two thousand twenty in two thousand twenty one now. I do think that both players are going to get traded. I think it's very likely. Lindores traded before July thirty first. But it wouldn't surprise me. It didn't surprise me that they weren't traded to this point. All right last one here. Marc Sherman at Shark Merman. Clever handle their King Felix didn't get any recognition from the baseball tonight. Guys in the King Talk. Carl Hubbell may have been better than him but Jim Lehrer. It's certainly wasn't yeah. I kind of felt bad after I did that. Absolutely ambushed him with that question asking him who he thinks it when he hears the nickname king think he was going to say. Hubble he said Garrett's which hadn't occurred to me and then a couple of people did point out on twitter as you as you did shark that we didn't mention King Felix and I kind of felt stupid about that Taylor when he heard me ask the question. Did any big king come to mind for you. The only king that came to mind for me is King Henrik Lundqvist in the NHL. Not Not a baseball player. Obviously he's he's been the source of my IRA in terms of my Washington Capitals Fan. I'm a couple of times. So he's the only one that cropped up for me okay so so unrelated but yeah. That's that's what came to mind. That's liter tweets. Keep those questions coming. I try to stay away from the Astros. Talk so any anything. You Guys WanNa chat about staying away from the Astros. If you WANNA ask about your team can add it. We we definitely WanNa talk a little bit more ball than This controversy although the controversy is good for the podcast absolutely that is it for today. 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CBP  What a Bunch of Knuckleheads #1475

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CBP What a Bunch of Knuckleheads #1475

"This is Geek News Central. My name is Todd Cochran coming to FEMA region five in the New Media Production Studio designed by Audio Mute Dot Com and cold water Michigan the lead story's Youtube Launching a TIKTOK. Competitor. And video spends forty billion dollars to buy arm the largest tech acquisition ever. Life on Venus. Yes. Venus more about that. Tick Tock. In works to sell partially to Oracle I, want to welcome you to episode one, thousand, four, hundred, seventy, five of the Beaten Center podcast for Monday, September fourteenth show sponsored part by go daddy dot com in listeners just like you great deals from go daddy can be found a getting central dot com forward slash go daddy and you can support this show today by becoming an insider GIG new central dot com forward slash insider. He want to give a warm welcome to all my new listeners. Thanks for being here. Thanks for checking up for the very first time. 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You just recommend my promo codes, show them where you can. It is significantly. Important. Everyone thinks again anything go daddy for being a longtime sponsor here. So why allow allow what's going on well? This weekend. STARTED OFF WITH A. Early, wake-up for some reason I got up. Got Motivated. Clean my loft. Wash dishes. All kinds of crazy stuff was done. And And then did the new media show Went Back did some more. Rummaging around. And then Did INDIE PODCAST conference. On Saturday night. So as only twenty minutes, of course, they have to be here about an hour early and everything else that goes along with that. But. I've learned one thing over Michigan weather warm one day cold. The next Sunday was beautiful shorts weather fantastic little bit of outside activity and then. This morning it was cold and I left the house in shorts and I've been freezing all day but the worst thing yet happen. You're all going to laugh so. At our place. If you have. Trash that you can burn. You put it in the burn pit. But because I'm lazy and I, inner mixed plastic hands every because we have no recycle here. So I mix all this intermixing stuff of my trash. I have to bring the trash into work with me and there's a dumpster. on the back side of this building. So Charlie Trash, the dumpster. Put the trash in a car this morning. Drove into work. been here, all day. Crush was stuff going on? Had A little snack for lunch Decide for dinner, we go out to my car to drive to get some food. And the door. Yes I gotTA. Take a turn. Out. Of. My car. Oh No. Oh. Oh, my goodness you guys. It sitting in the parking lot with the windows at have mass air. Oh there's nothing like getting in your vehicle after day of that trash being in the sun you know. Anyway Yeah. So that was a good kickoff. This show. And just. Almost makes me want to throw up thinking about it here. You can get that. Was Me. Myself you great there but anyway, Oh Man I couldn't believe it I i. really really could. So yeah, I mean. It's you know. It's just me in the car so like it matters but anyway still is it was bad. So a from fear watching live. Thanks, Toby. Hey. Christopher. Thanks for checking in. If you're on Youtube mcsherry say well. But Hey. Let's we got a conspiracy theory for the show and I have some at the end of the show by some people that have written in. As well so let me change channels here and getting the right position. By the way. Are. Conspiracy Fixer Mr Fixer. Wants to know. What do you think of the conspiracy segment? Because Zim getting feedback I said well. They're sending stuff in a those of you who don't know Mr Fixer is Michael Dare. He is our coordinator for conspiracies. So Mr Fixer asked me via tax. He says have you Guinea feedback and said well, people are sending more emails. So you've done something in they're sending their own conspiracy. So I guess the answer is, yes, we're having an effect. So anyway here's a whopper. For the show today. In this is a whopper. Bill and Melinda Gates were hang by a mob of angry parents whose children had been killed or paralyzed by gates vaccination. Indian. Two, thousand, thirteen. They replaced by body doubles. Another rumor on. Ancestry. Dot Com is said to state that bill has been missing for seven years and was also declared dead also in two thousand thirteen. While I'm GonNa, tell you if they if they found a body double for Bill Gates he was like a one in a billion. Because no one can talk like him. No one's got his, you know his name's Bill Gates No, one has a gate like him. He walks kind of inch kind of you can see that a mile away. And any interviews Well. Maybe it is a body double. Maybe that's why he spends all this time reading. Well Anyway. That's the conspiracy of the day that that's a whopper. It really is and Anyway that's a good one I. Don't know where you're finding this stuff at I have no idea where he found this but and that's that's a good one. Some people you know some people actually get a little a little irritated with this because the you know the anti vaccines are going to be you know they're not Bill Gates as Donna you know the of anti vaccines do not like Bill Gates. And I know many of you. Anti vaccine and I. Know You reasons why? You know it's it's It's one of those situations where. I'll say it again. I was shot full of everything the military could put me. So I'm really not scared vaccines at this point, I might die in early death. But anyway I. thought that was a little bit a little bit funny. Soon. There we go. There's a conspiracy theory. Let's get into the stack. So Oh someone in the chat. Christopher says Yamen I have put mics on him and chatted a couple of events. Cool. Guy Brain is biggest Dallas man this one rivals a challenger crew still being alive. I don't know if we've had that we have that one or not yet Christopher I I that's that's A. That's the know the thing about that though that's that's A. The challenger crew crew in what happened to them was very devastating. Many of us watch that live and You know it it strikes home and it's it's probably hurtful to the families to hear about those types of. A conspiracy theories. But Anyway, I digress will continue Youtube Youtube is launching a short form video format to compete with you guessed who tiktok. A. Beta. Version of shorts. Is Landing in India this week not in America. Youtube shorts or fifteen second video shot on mobile phones, you'll be able to string multiple video clips together. Record with music and just video speed. There's also timer countdown. So you can record handsfree youtube is launching an early of shorts India over the next few days. So. Most, of his can only comprehend fifteen seconds worth of content once. I'm just joking. But, we become a world of a hundred and twenty eight characters. Don't you know? In a big big big big big announcement nvidia in video will keep the arm licensing neutral. In their acquisition. Of Soft Bank's. Forty billion dollars. Again it's one of the biggest I not the biggest one of the biggest tech acquisitions of all time in it will see Nydia control the world's most popular CPU architecture now. I tell you. I think I've told this story on the show before. nvidia. has a GPO technology that is. Quite incredible. I was involved in something in it. Let's. Let's go back up. Maybe who man now how many years? Let me think about this If I back up to two thousand and by the time I was getting out of the navy run two, thousand and seven. Set Right. Two, thousand, four, no, two, thousand, and four jeeze. I've been retired longer than that. So anyway, not thousand seven when I retired in two thousand seven from the Navy I was involved with something whereas the lead designer had told me that it would take ten years. Of computer chip advancements to get to a certain level of gamma data. And Three short years later actually told me this in two thousand and four and three short years later. In two, thousand seven. When INVIDIA had Put. Together. The The envy at GP's that were not even a video card they were just a processing. Monster. that prediction by that scientists who is quite renowned at the time? Went from that prediction went from ten years down back down to now as possible. So I can't emphasize enough. This GPS TECHNOLOGY And? His has changed the way we live. These self embedded systems for self driving driving cars in multiple GP systems were workstations and servers offering high high tariff, the learning performance or or math performance or calculation performance. is off the chart. And invidious sealed itself is in the science world. And in many industrial military sectors as Like the second coming. the some of these cars were ten, fifteen, thousand dollars and I saw literally boxes of these things being bought. Boxes Cases Fifty in case. An anti couldn't deliver them fast enough because you get a big enough prestigious jam as many of these, you can into a server and then you re tidy servers together. Incredible I mean incredible processing power. And it really allowed. A CPU something, it would be in the in a five you. Computer box. I think one years. One point seven, five inches someone correct me if I'm wrong but five you. Computer. Box would have like. The present nothing. Keep it. Cool. And have the power for that was another problem, but it would have the EU imagine taking. That type of processing power and putting it in a small space. And what that power brought to a software application that before was not portable. And I mean like I mean this is invidia got rich on the science community. These GP US. So, how do you think they just afford forty billion dollars? By arm but this is puts them in a very interesting position apple. Hates. NVIDIA? Hates. Hates they hate each other 'cause they made? A. Apple look bad. A number of years ago. But. Apple said Hey we're we're arm in we're all in. So. This is going to be crazy not what else this does and I think this is really important. And Win A. For those of you listening I'm waving my finger here. The Chinese don't get it. The Chinese don't get it. The Chinese don't get it because. Nevada is. A US based company. And arm will move from being a Japanese owned company to be an American owned company. which should scare the crap out of Chinese companies facing a trade war with the United States. Now on the video says will be remain headquartered in Cambridge England, but a can England is five ice. We're good. We're good. Navy wants to turn Cambridge England. Into a world class. Center A. All this tied together with this and they say they bought arm largely because the AI. In. A tied with GP and all this stuff. The INVIDIA does. It is. It's mind boggling what they have control up here this gets approved. Christopher says, yeah the ten, seventy TI series I worked for video conference for years to hear one of the two heads of embitter deb and Lockheed. Martin talking about Moore's law will Moore's law collapsed on that processing I mean. Did they. They obliterated it. If that's an probably just destroyed the word obliterated. And So this is a big deal. This is going to be subject to regulatory approval around the world and envious says, Ideo should take eighteen months. And but can everyone get along with Nvidia? The Lennox community does not like nvidia. Oh No no, no two thousand twelve lines to route said. Hey Nidia beep beep you know they they do not get along. But arm? and. Links are two words synonymous. So. There could be some potential backlash here and what? What else is out there? Well, Risk Tack V. Instruction sets and open source arm alternative. The doesn't require licensing. Could be part of this but. You have to build compilers ecosystems. And people have been pretty happy paying arm licensing fee up to this point. But maybe invidious purchasing of this will cause the risk be. Are. Saying is not risk our se Dash Vince -struction set. Could be the push this needed to make that expand. But I'm happy to see arm come to the United States. I really really am. The Chinese. Having. This would not be good. So they can sell by nvidia. Sell license. But some experts staff on. I'm GonNa tell you some these jeep us. They couldn't be exported. US Trade folks got real smart, real quick, and understood. What the power of this was. And So for those of you out there had no clue now you do. And I was pretty pretty happy to see this today. All right Astronomers detect possible signs of life in Venus. They believe alien microbes produced high levels of the chemical fussing. To papers published today in the strimmers explain they detected the chemical falsifying Venus's atmosphere. The believe that fast phen- may have been produced by living organisms living maybe produced by living microorganisms in a type of. Alien Biosphere. Faucet bean was first discovered in on Venus in two thousand seventeen. A March two thousand nineteen scientists confirmed the discovery using a more powerful telescope in Chile. They found Faucet falsifying levels ranging from five to twenty parts per billion. Let me say something here. Sometimes. We have a hard time for our cellphones to stay connected. Yet. They can detect five to twenty parts per billion faucet being on Venus. Okay I guess so. Now. We haven't collect any microorganisms from meanest or even photographer for photograph them not that we could. So, theoretically, microbes could do this. We'll. See. Do you believe it or not. Tick Tock Tick Tock Serie lying in the president to back off original demand to sell US business outright in approved. Oracle deal. So, Tick Tock Banking. President will back off a little bit. And of course, the biggest loser from the propose or go deal with bite dance could be former tick tock CEO Kevin Meyer, because talks was during that tried to make the oracle deal in the first place. So. Anyway. Way they're trying to structure it. Is that This. Idea potentially keeps china-based bite dancing control by both financially an operation -ly, but Oracle would be the data keeper. I don't know if that's GONNA. Fly. We'll see. So, Bite Tick Tock under operational control of the Chinese ORCAS are always be as a trusted technology partner starring secure data within the US premises. And Tick Tock says also planning discloses a log rhythm to third parties. What does that mean? Dances having a discussions with both. So we'll see we'll see what happens. The White House declined to comment. You know tomorrow in September fifteenth. Twenty. Lesson well a few hours away and that was the link Hey Christopher. The new starling he says the new Starlink claims twenty microseconds delay from space. Now, they have to prove that. They they want to get to twenty microseconds Milliseconds excuse me. You know why they WanNa get to twenty. Melissa or is it Mike Milliseconds I think? Yeah twenty milliseconds because they have to do that in order to get the money from the federal government. So. They were working on it. Their speed wasn't quite that fast and some the ladies reported stop. So if that's a new, if that's a new claim that they actually make a place that that would be big. Christopher so will see at twenty milliseconds is the the The delay. If they can get it down. Then that really is what they have to reach in order to get that rural money. From the government and get those billions. That we talked about on a couple of shows ago, where at is now changing their tune and willing to do more detailed mapping to get a hold of some of this rural money as well because they know these areas they've been claiming, they really don't serve if they wanna get the money, they gotta be able to truly serve those areas in order to truly serve those areas get that money they gotta prove. They're not in that area when they've been saying all along that they are in that area set makes sense. Amazon will hire even more warehouse workers respond to surgeon orders. The company says is bringing on one hundred thousand. More employees United States and Canada. Well. More thousand people are going to get their fifteen thousand steps in every day. So That's big. The announcement comes after the after Amazon hit already hired one hundred, seventy, five, thousand more US warehouse workers early. Listen to me. They had her husband seventy, five thousand. They're going to hire another one hundred thousand. They're looking for another thirty thirty, thirty, three, thousand for tech in corporate workers. What's closing in your area? Because of Rona. What's going out of business in your area because of Rona, retailers. This'll be the biggest transfer of wealth. AND DECIMATION OF JOBS And businesses in. America. Because Amazon's at scale, they've not been affected. They can deliver and yet in states like mine states in new. York still, highly restricted undoing business. And It. Capacity limits. Amazon does a habit issue. The biggest thing you can do right now. As a consumer, his support, your local businesses. As much as possible. I supported someone this weekend paid a little bit more for product than they would have on Amazon, but I bought it at their shop. I know their business news business and their local, and they're employing local people. With this continued closed down in many places in America. Businesses, are are suffering heavily and another thing is going to happen. And the Chinese are probably loving. This is that all this commercial space is going to start opening up in whether the Chinese liked to buy commercial space. So. Oh. So Jordan's linked to me SPACEX INTER-SERVICES LATE NECE- comes in under twenty milliseconds. Well. There you go. Good for them. But again. Tanya, there's a bigger picture here. A lot of people lost focus on. What's really important? And supporting your local retailer is more important than ever. Amazon. rebrand free time in free time unlimited Amazon and Amazon kids plus you guys use this with your kids. Don't even know what this is. I guess it's a kid stuff cartoons and limited playlist and. How many of you using this? I'm your mom and dad's her up there using free time and free time unlimited. Are you looking debt content? Amazon's also adding a new family friendly features including a whole new home screen experience for fire tablet users. I'm sure at some point there'll be educational stuff on there to teach your kids to read and write teach history all kinds of interesting things. You just knew know. Veterans Social Security numbers leaked in breach. And just had a message come through him. Sorry again, look at this. Okay Veteran. Social Security numbers leaked in data breach hack exposed person from showing forty six, thousand US vets. Thank goodness. I was not using this APP. Well, everyone has my data anyway because it was leaked through the US government years ago. that announced. NANDONET for that. Payments you know about payments for. Healthcare providers. Well that apple had a head of bug. Once again. The government building secure APPS. On Modern Technology Probably, it is modern technology with poor imprest. Poor infrastructure. And they're going to offer the standard credit card reporting and all that stuff that goes on with these types of breaches. So Here we go. Again. Would you issues like my social security number? He said just give it over the show. Microsoft declares his underwater data center was a test. So here's this is kind of a cool pick for those of you watching. This. Thing is Went in the water is all nice and clean with the Microsoft logo and yeah, it was pretty you know. Pretty cool. Well they they dug it up. Is. The best word to describe. I don't know how deep underwater it was. But the eight, sixty, four server under data center pod. Has Been Up there for a while. And I think two years. But these pictures are pretty cool. It shows shows them opening it up. Let's see. Can I can I find that? Yeah. Looking Pretty Nasty. Spray, spray they spray washed it. And then then they show picture of it over the over of them opening up. And pulling it out. And and wasn't full of water. So Doesn't look bat remarkable, but it was you know stuck inside this This tube. was basically the northern Isles Underwater Data Center was built by naval. Group. Of Defense and Renewable Marine energy contractor. And is locally supported by the Green Marine in Orkney Island Base Marine engineering operations firm and spent two years under the water at the European Marine. Energy Center were title currents peak at nine nine miles per hour and stay a storm waves reached sixty feet or more. Both the point and retrieval needed particularly com Wa- weather. But anyway, I guess they're looking at the results didn't have to have a cooling bill didn't have to worry about bugs or dusk getting into the center was all. All pretty good. And They're going to look at the cables and all that stuff. So anyway. Pretty cool. Data Center coming offshore to your area soon. So, if you've been listening to alter the new show, you've heard US talk about anchor podcast hosts, which I pray tell none of you that listen the show will ever use. If. You don't use blueberry podcasting you're listening to this show I'm you know please? Please explain to me why you're doing that BEEN ANYWAY ANCHOR SAYS is cracking down on stolen. PODCAST. I'M NOT GONNA go into much details on that. But the right up they make is bunch of BS, in this article, they don't This is a very. Technical thing that is could be explained very easily non technically, and they talk all around it in this article Everyone is susceptible to this. and. They just made it easy for my making it free. So anyway copycats and And cloning shows is what they what was going on there. So. Anyway Link Oh be up in the show notes Google says its carbon footprint is now zero. Some people are raising their eyebrows. They say it's wiped. They Google says it has wiped out its entire carbon footprint by investing in high quality carbon offsets. Investing. It became carbon neutral in two thousand seven and says it. Now it is now compensated for all of the carbonate his ever created. is also claimed run all of us data centers and offices on Carbon Free Energy by twenty thirty. So, you know that Google said that they will not support. Any of their technology being used to find oil or gas. which is interesting. and Greenpeace ecorse said Google setting a high bar at some people have got their eyebrows raised upon this statement but that's what Google saying at least four today. About this? And But again. They No. Longer are going to create artificial intelligence solutions for upstream. Oil, and. Gas. Exploration. So we're GONNA leave that to somebody else. Last time. I checked the majority vehicles. America's still run on oiling gas and stuff that you hold your hand or made from boiling oil particularly. La The components of your home would not be possible without oil. Aston Martin Build a seventy four thousand dollar racing simulator. The company's only making one hundred fifty of the luxury East sports simulator, and if you want one again, seventy four. K.. I know there's a few geeks out here in the show that would love to have one of these looks like you're in a Formula One cockpit. So. For, seventy four thousand dollars hope it comes with the air conditioning for the seat. And And some simulated Jeez. Severe looks your cash on hand maybe the government stimulus check will have with your help your down payment on that. So. Christopher I don't know out there is I think they. They say they invested in Carbon Offsets whatever that means. So, anyway, seventy four thousand dollars for a racing simulator. Very, very nice. Walmart parking was zip line for glider delivery. Excuse me. A Walmart partners was zip line for Glider drone delivery tests now. It's the second deal that or almost done this week or the last week. But. This is interesting. So they're going to launch a drone. And then it's GonNa. Perish you your product to you. Now. The ZIP line drones aren't car quad copters. They're also fair glider and they have a longer range. So I guess they use a mixed of power and glide but. They're gonna you stuff into your yard is this going to really work? Really, is this going to work A. Delivery has been made. It's on your roof. Hey, your delivery has been made. It's in the backyard in your pool. Hey, you're delivery has been made in it's in your maple tree at sixty five feet. I. I. can see how this is. GonNa work. Great. So deliveries. We'll take place down in Arkansas. So you live down near their headquarters in you order something you might get it be a drone delivery. FITBIT is getting FDA clearance for its sense smartwatch an e. c. g., APP. So. When the watch arrives in October, it will be able to detect a fib but of course, the Apple Watch has been able to do for some time. It's three hundred and twenty nine dollars and again and just earn clearance with the FDA and the E U. For its cardiogram APP. And when the advance health wearable rives. So you'll be able to see if you have a FIB or not. We need to have a Something's going to detect tax that's going to sell well. GMC detail the Hummer. Ev On October twentieth. And get this. If your Hummer Fan, the truck will include a crab mode for driving diagonally. So suzy the on euboea making online reservation for this. Shock was a big fan of the Hummer. She loves the loves that body style and. So, we'll see what happens here but October twentieth the electric vehicle version of this. And They had a twitter video, but it turns out it was simulated. It wasn't a real. Ev Hummer but that will come. In. Those things get about three miles per gallon right now. Good Rx offers the founders five, hundred, million dollars, and that's one hundred dollars hundred million dollar investment from Silverlake and makes quiet acquisition before IPO. So this is this is big. The two founders only had one point three percent of the company and This is a an amended s one. And they're going to increase that where the the CO founders are going to get about twenty, five, million shares of stock. Making it worth about five, hundred, thirty, three, million. That stock has time based component and a performance base component designed to incentivize. The duo commit to the company for the long term. And but the people were talking about the IPO apparently wanted the founders have more money. So is called a founder's Award Hey, give me one of those. You know someone come by Blueberry and I'd love to have a founder award. Psychologist, retire how about that? But Anyway, this equity award the second best news is to growth equity investor. Silverlake is good hundred million dollars worth of the stock. At IPO price. And what did they acquire? A, quietly bought script cycle of prescription management service for retail chains for sixty million dollars back in August. So as part of the terms acquisition employees imagine expected received three million of new stock and Rx investing over. Two. Years. So they're going to have an offering of one point one, billion dollars a good for them. Nice to see people get a good IPO raise your data leak. Mavis owes IMF. Over one hundred, thousand customers. So he bought anything from razor recently. Your your email and your name was probably leaked. Passwords and credit card information weren't include. We're not included in the leak. And they had something on one of their Amazon elastic search servers. That was MIS configured. So anyway I haven't done anything from razor in quite a while. Samsung's new appliances want me staying home smarter. So Samsung has a AD campaign launch money highlighting the ways staying home in two thousand, twenty changed cooking cleaning laundry and more, and of course, Samsung has got all these smart home type stuff that they show at the consumer electronics show. But your grant get to see Wifi ranges and refrigerators and Irons and all kinds of stuff that is connected all these mark things that we really need to know if our. Our Electric Iron we used iron close is connected to the internet or not is that really that important? So Anyway, Lincoln be on the show notes on that. A faster WIFI by six Eero E. E. R. O. is coming to the mess router reportedly new Mesh router reportedly on the way how much are they gonNA cost? It doesn't say. But it's went through FCC review. That's how they caught wind of it. Have you seen this LG swivel screen that looks like a wing. I I looked at this five times. But what it is is you have a normal cell phone and then the main screen swivels and underneath it as another little screen. So kind of looks like an airplane. It's a very unusual form factor and I really don't. I guess you can watch video then do something on the main screen. K.. So, new phone is do is supposed to revealed today. Did they have any additional images? This was must have come out before the announcement. And it's just it's just a little odd. But form factor for everyone I guess. But I also know that a lot of people they're only. Device is their mobile phone. Now, they don't have a laptop, they don't have a notebook it's some countries, your mobile phone is it. You remember track phone that was a name that's probably come around. You've heard few times. Well. For Rice acquired track phone. So now you got. Mobile companies and this has been kind of common. buying NBA an OS. So track phone was the largest wireless. Well basically, he was one of the largest mobile mobile virtual network operators so they get their cake and eat it too. So they get to promote. And then they also get to provoke on track phone. So they spent six billion dollars on track phone. So the largest mobile network virtual operator will become part of the largest wireless provider in the country. They have twenty, one, million subscribers around eight hundred and fifty employees network of more than ninety thousand retail locations. It was owned by Mexico Base America mobile along with telefe track phone brand operates the net ten in straight talk brands in US more than thirteen million track phone customers. Already rely. Envir- why Bryson's rights network? Of course, track phone doesn't run its own own network it it rides on other cell phone carrier's for be. So There you go. Choices are always been narrow in mobile, but he gets more able. Narrow data. Okay. Yes, heard about. One plus. It's nearby that kind of looks like a Air Pod, but it's not. It's different. Kind of comes in a case it Kinda looks like. A one like an airport. Well Customs and Border Patrol. Sees two thousand Counterfeit Apple Air. Pods from Hong Kong valid at three, hundred, Ninety, eight, thousand dollar. Well it, wasn't. It was actually and it was labeled correctly as. One plus buds. So they seized a legitimate shipment of one plus buds. It's kind of awkward the One plus folks basically tweeted by please give us our stuff back. And these are legitimate one plus buds. Transported box, which plainly says much. But customers border patrol proudly tweeted that's not an apple as if people would astutely detected a forged piece of eighteenth. Century art. So two thousand units of one plus were seized. Being identified as Air Pods. He up there really brilliant they out a press release about it too. What a bunch of knuckleheads Simply. And they ain't think that they got a press release out about it. Claiming. How much these costs and how much air pods costs and how how much the estimated damage was going to be and all that. Oh. My Gosh. Now, we talked about Amazon Space Division right. Well. Microsoft is kind of following along but in a little different way but not necessarily from Amazon Kazan Amazon's doing this as well. Microsoft wants to take on Amazon. Connecting satellites to their cloud, the FCC authorize. Microsoft or perform proof of concept demonstrations of a service that would connect. It's cloud competing service as your with a ground station, the company proposed to build. If the demonstrators on the civic and Mark Interest Microsoft file an application for regular Earth Station Authority with the International Bureau to Support Future. Operations. The company strategy in competition with Amazon, which in November two, thousand, eighteen launch a similar AWS ground station service. So Microsoft trying to keep up with the Joneses. At which we do cover in this podcast is a articles tonight came from seen at one, two, three, four, I believe Viacom CBS release reaches a deal to sell seen it for five hundred million dollars to a marketing firm red ventures. So the off loading it under the deal seen at media group EDP and GM mark, and Lark along with the unit senior execs will remain with red ventures, red ventures following acquisition. The scene that sales expected close in the fourth quarter seeing that media group has nine hundred eighty employees plan to grow Sina in ways of in ways unforeseen. So we'll. See. CBS acquired seen it networks in two thousand, eight per one point, eight, billion dollars and the sold it for five hundred, million dollars was that a good investment over eleven years? Did they make their money back? That's the question I. Toby says showed title what a bunch of Knuckleheads I you know that might actually be a good one toby. Oh my goodness. c. p. what a bunch of knuckleheads he out Google unveiled new Pixel phones on September thirtieth. Depicts a forty, five G., and picks five will be unveiled at the virtual bent later this month. So a lot of phone announcements coming up. Never androids sue phones are now supporting Wifi six I have a list of that in the show notes for you the Motorola one, five G. launches on at this week for four, hundred, forty, five dollars. Save. This one to the end gazettes isn't really mobile related see here. I think we already nnounced that. Galaxy s twenty Epi to break cover it Samsung's. Event on September twenty third. and. Finally, are you looking for a Microsoft Office alternative I have a link and list of them in the show notes from PC world. And of some that I wasn't familiar with. W. PS office. of course there's Google docs. It's is an option I like it though all these opera packages export to Microsoft. documents. So you know it's like they're interchangeable. Are. alumnae dig here for a second. There we go. Let me bring up the email. I've got a couple of emails here Once from rob he says in in Rob's in Blind River Ontario yes Canada. Even. Ontario. Where you're seeing exodus from the city's daughter and son-in-law, for example, living in Toronto, one of Canada's largest cities but recently, worker remote due to covid their companies have given them permission to work remotely indefinitely they've been hoping we've closer to where they were born raised and closer to family is so in the midst of that now moving two hundred miles north to northern. Ontario. Many people are coming many people competing for homes, not even in the country, but even in the cities although a city, like Sudbury. Ontario. Where this is occurring has only population of one, hundred, eighty, thousand or so. Not The millions of the Toronto Area Now My City's got thirty thousand people. So anyway, Not As. Only one hundred, eighty thousand or so not to millions of China plus houses are a faction of the price we live about one hundred miles west of Sudbury. The buying spike has not quite reached us yet. Love the show as always passing around the go daddy coupon cones I assume they also apply to us in Canada. Yes. They do So thanks so much take care of rob and rob was so good to also send. Also send a conspiracy. Oh. Hey Rob you're gonNA. Get. People upset with this one. Okay. Conspiracy Theory. Ocean levels rising due to global warming melting ice caps and glaciers. Faults over the past few decades. A new trend has emerged in many Asian countries. Hundreds of millions of people are demanding natural sponge found only in the oceans for cleaning and bathing billions of sponges have been harvested from the world's oceans as a result there viewers sponges in the ocean to absorb water ocean levels continue to rise unless the stop it will be too late. A. Oh Hey. Good one. Goodwin. Oh. My. Gosh. All right. So Final One Nancy says tot. Netflix does DVD by mail two at a time thirteen dollars a month huge selection you know Nancy I completely forgot. Did you can still do DVD's from that. Blake's. But I'll be honest with you might my secret weapon right now? Is this is this play on. site. All, I gotTa do is set this computer. Upset my playlist up. It will play movies and record to my computer and do every. It's a lot less hassle I know have to go to the post office or anything like that by do. So appreciate any of you that want to send me DVD's it's always. Greatly appreciated. Alright. So Let's get Outta here. Yeah, some other people watching this show are laughing because then some big sponges. All right email the show geek music gmail.com Geek News at gmail.com twitter at Geek News. If you like to show you think I'm doing good job become an insider getting center dot com for slash insider, and again for all of you that are sharing my promo codes for go daddy, it's greatly appreciated. We definitely thank you for doing. So I'M GONNA GET OUTTA here. Thanks for being here, take care be safe. Was He backyard Thursday? When tigger by

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92: Our Ship Is Coming In: Tuesday, May 19th, 2020

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92: Our Ship Is Coming In: Tuesday, May 19th, 2020

"Good morning millennials. Welcome back to the morning toasts. Happy Tuesday another beautiful day here in New York City. Hey clod how are you doing? I don't want to trigger people with how you earn. Well I think you just did. I'm doing good. I'm cramp in. I'm on my third cycle of quarantine feeling moody feeling a little messy and ready to take it out on. You know the toast nice well. Meaning snitch are then completely thanked up on our times of the month. So that's an interesting quarantine development. I wonder if any of the toasters recycled up with us. Let me so. Yeah that would just be so fun for for the community. Say Yeah you know. We have this deep bond within our community and I think all sinking up cycles would be just the thing we need to take us to the next level. I completely agree I'm sorry that you're in the cramped. As though I passed through on Sunday. Pass through to the other side and an m feeling better yet. I'm in the crap and also the weird fucking dream phase. I had the weirdest dream last night. All about lizards and like the whole night. I felt like they were lizard to my bed. It was not good. Oh that's really creepy. I had a dream but it was more realistic but now I'm losing it. Damn it sounds like what Martin Luther King would have said. I had a dream our thinking so there's not a lot of news today but we'll do what we can add another is. Oh there was. I actually had to eliminate some stories. there's some decent celebrity news. I watched a good amount of TV last night. Oh my God I watched song land so behind I forgot about. I'll watch. Don't let me forget to talk about. It was Florida Georgia line. And it's giving Old Dominion Competition for best episode ever like Zach and. I were watching it and we didn't WANNA tend. Well can we just wait to recap it tomorrow so I can watch okay but you have to watch it today or else. I'm recapping tomorrow okay. I waited a whole week for you to watch Ted to me in Hollywood like you know you recapped it. I just put my mute be a day I want to recap it together. Okay I said I'll give you a day. Maybe we'll say a day or else you go on mute territory. That's fair cool. I also watch more of money. High still not feeling season for but it's something to watch. I'm like nervous. It's going to end soon. And then I have to get into like a whole new world of something and I'm just I'm running low mice I want was so full and now so empty. And this is what I feared. That's what quarantines all about like having a full plate and an empty plate. I watched Jerry. Seinfeld's comedy special and boy do. I have thoughts. Okay shaver save it for the recap segment. But I'm probably won't watch so I want to hear what you think yet. No I have a lot to say. Okay Great and what else did yesterday? Actually had a really busy day. We recorded the Patriot. Episode of all deer toasters We got such good inquiries. I hope people got some good advice and are going to make some changes and then you win. Snitch recorded a Taylor Swift episode. That is dropping today. Had Jockey adopted this morning already How it was good but you know so many of the questions at me and Margot got ranked. This album rank all of her albums rank. Your favorite songs and those questions are like so impossible and I hate doing rankings. Because of course matter what something has to go at the bottom and that implies somehow that it's a bad or negative when she does bad they're just things. I'd like more than others. I have a lot of anxiety about rankings and that was all the questions that we gotten and tried to answer like every other question besides the ranking ones but ultimately be to rank all the albums and I don't even stand by what I said because I like them all. I feel like ranking her albums. Though as is possible and it doesn't mean the one at the bottom is bad. It just means that you prefer the one at the top but I don't want to say something because it's ever changing like for the last maybe two or three years. Nineteen thousand nine has been my favorite album but forever. It was red so it's like with with different phases of my life. I just can't make a decision so I recently cleaned my apartment to the soundtrack of the red album. Because that's what I thought was my favorite album of hers and what I thought was just the best album ever but I think it was just. I was listening to it during one of the best times of my life And the whole time like it's funny when you listen to her music. I'm transported to what she was doing. And I'm just like Ethel Kennedy the Kennedys. Everything was like the red album is like an American history album about the Kennedy family. I couldn't get Ethel Kennedy out of my head yet. We said the same thing about how different albums like. I've been the Taylor fan for so long in part of why. I love so much different albums. Remind me both times of her life but also times of mine like I remember listening to read my first year of college and it was living out of my house like I was in a dorm. Like I disassociate. Memories with the album's But you know read was my fever for so long probably because it was such a good year of my life when I go back. It's actually not my favorite. Of course there's Red State of grace amazing staples but there's actually like a lot of skips on that album for me like I don't love lucky ones or almost do like actually skip a good amount of songs but see I feel like I'm not saying I don't like them. I'm just saying I hear no. I thought red was the Like the best album and then I listened to it in twenty twenty eight. Maybe just twenty twenty ruins everything and I was like. Oh this definitely. Isn't my favorite album. In some ways I actually liked reputation. More will margot is like a reputation. Stan and I am a nineteen. Eighty nine apologised so it was just a very dynamic in-depth conversation that I think I've so what was your. Can you give us a spoiled? What was your top album inches? One thousand nine hundred ninety nine nine hundred eighty nine and then it was speak now and then it was lover and then it was red and that it was forgetting whatever marlins top fear. Oh you know I don't even fucking remember. It's so hard it's so hard margot's top was speak now. Okay I feel that for her. I feel VERTU and by the way it just depends where I am like. If I am a mountain lodge the speak now is my vibe. But if I'm on like a boat in the middle of Turksancacoes lovers my bob it's just different scenarios. It really is it's it. I don't envy the task because honestly even as someone who doesn't who feels comfortable saying negative things about Taylor. I'm having a hard time putting this together as well. So and I look gelato sinning. That episode like spiraled me for the rest of the day like literally sand bed and watch videos of Taylor swift looking live on my fifty account like I literally was the least productive person all day after that episode just because like I got in my own panda and I couldn't get out of it but that sounds like a good place to be like I London rabbit hole during the Q. Don't get me out. Don't come and get me Joe coming. GimMe for me unless I stand for you. One hundred percent okay. Cool we also have a lot of interesting guests this week. They're not coming till the end of the week. But tomorrow we're going to sit down for an episode on Thursday with Lauren gray who we are obsessed with it. I'm so fucking excited. We have been like standing her since before. Like tick. Tock was it. It was musically like especially Margaret like. We've been upset surgeon new song coming out so I'm really excited to talk to like maybe we'll get some tick tock followers from him and then on Thursday we're recording for Friday's no yep Thursday for Friday's episode were recording with Liam Sweeney from real houses of New York which like not. Well Not. Well not well not well. I'm so excited it's been a while since we've had guests and in the queue like I just when we have a guest. It's someone that I'm legit dying to talk to these to these two queens. I can't wait until just a couple of blonde queens totally Okay so maybe it's time thing so I think so. Okay without further ado each time for the past five stories that you need to know yet you you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast and while I have you allow me just a brief moment. Remind everyone that today's episode is brought to you. 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Okay but you know what if you saw that clip where the winner won? You actually did see the clip that everyone's talking about While American idol Crowns Samantha. Just Sam D. as the season's winner during the shows live remote finale on Sunday night it was idol host Ryan seacrest. Who found himself sharing some of the spotlight towards the end of the show which had seen seacrest nimbly juggling on air hosting duties as contestants appeared remotely from their homes the Star briefly appeared off. His words seemed slightly slurred and his right eye appeared larger than his left. The moment prompted a flurry of twitter comments from fans concern. That seacrest was not well or had suffered some kind of neurological episode. So you definitely did see the thing that people are talking about. You probably didn't notice it. I watched it like having read this headline and now I'm like okay. I guess that does look a little stroke but I probably I thought it was going to be way more obvious than it was. I guess throughout the night he was having technical difficulties in just stumbling over his words and people thought he might have been drunk but his remedied Ryan Ryan did not have any kind of stroke last night like many people right now. Ryan is adjusting to the new normal and finding work home balance with the added stress of having to put on live shows from home between live with Kelly Ryan American idol on air with Ryan seacrest and the Disney Family Singalong specials. He has been juggling three to four on air jobs over the last few weeks and he's in need of rest so today he took a well-deserved day off. Oh my God ever needs to chill the fuck out like Ryan seacrest is the hardest fucking working man in Hollywood during the normal days. He's going back and forth from New York to La fuck alone. He's tired from literally putting the entire media industry on his fucking back. Ok Learn was watching. Shahs of sunset and it said produced by Ryan Secrets. He's busy yeah. He's very busy. He's probably exhausted Air Go one is bigger than the other you know having one eye bigger than the other is a crime and put me in jail. Lock me up okay okay. Everyone is so nit picky about people. Everyone's so bored and like just leave him alone. I know but people also live shit like you know the goes viral. Someone Acts Imperfect and then we're picking it up everywhere to the point that his rap needs to let us know that we didn't win a stroke. Well this is like a similar situation like when people noticed some odd behavior. Michael Boob lays instagram live in regards to his wife and I felt as though was cause for concern. But I haven't seen this video but it's just like his. I looked big seriously that specific. Okay so first of all. It's a similar situation because it's like two videos that people have questions about but like they're so different yes his. I looked honestly. It wasn't that concerning his. I've looked big. He at some point seemed like he was just stopped talking completely He was moving very lethargically but maybe he was just what I mean. It wasn't exactly the most exciting finale of American idol. I can imagine Ryan seacrest sitting at his fucking dining room table for two hours talking to nobody. Maybe he gets a little bored and he yawns and his eye bulge is a little bit like. I just listen. He worked so hard like I do one show and I'm exhausted. Like he does four. And maybe the last. Show the finale of American idol. Where People's holograms are singing on billboards. You got a little tired. Yeah totally I can't believe that they did the rest of the season of American idol. Virtually and this honestly if it hadn't been for Ryan seek dress fake stroke. I would have never even heard of just SAM would have no clue who won. No and if it weren't for Taylor ship city of Labor concert. I wouldn't have even tuned into know that American idol is still on the air to. They're filming a promote finale and three tonight's finale. I'm like wow. I'm catching it. I was there and the winner. As I'm how fabulous is this? Yeah I guess that was the point of putting Taylor Swift's concert like after that tiki. Jerem up some love for American idol. Yeah Bowl Taylor. Swift has now been hospitalized for putting the American idol finale on her back. Yeah and she's in the room next to Ryan seacrest for having a stroke. Yeah and the other is Porsche from real houses of Atlanta. From putting the entire franchise on her back for the last five seasons and then in the room next to that is Francesca Farrago for two from too hot to handle putting the whole show on her back. She's having some back issues and also down. The hall is Bianca Del. Rio from season. Six of repulsed drag race was literally like the worst group of contestants ever and she was a star. She deserved better with entire fucking season on Iraq some wishing her a speedy recovery. Wow referring to all of these people in the hospital. At least they're together. Blessings blessings. Okay next up is a story. That is Just you know. We're going to close the loop from something from yesterday. Brian Austin Green has confirmed he is split from Megan Fox after nearly ten years of marriage. It's the end of the road for Toxin Brian Austin Green. He confirmed on Monday. May Teens at the longtime couple of called it quits. After nearly ten years of marriage he revealed the break up in a new episode of his podcast who knew yet podcast titled Context. He referenced the photos of Fox in machine gun Kelly that surfaced over the weekend reveal that he had a dream while she was filming her new movie with the rapper. There was distance between the two and noted that since the end of twenty nine thousand nine quote. They've really trying. They're really been trying to sort of be apart. Okay I feel like these two have been separated forever like sometimes they come together like I don't know today. They have kids but like Messi couple in Hollywood one hundred percent the one that made the lease sense and the one that needed to end a sap. That's the thing it never made sense and you sometimes when couples don't make sense but they stay together for so long it starts to make sense in like you you picture together but these two just never really made sense to me like to me. Meghan Fox is like the pinnacle of like sexiness maximum. Like everything of the sort. She is like the most desirable woman in the world objectively. And yes Brian Austin Greenberg or whatever. His name is like he is handsome but he is by no means at the same level and he's technically look if you look in the dictionary. It says Brian Austin Green has been like he doesn't really work anymore so I never really understood the pairing and and you would think like after. They've been together for ten years. They have kids in the family. Like they're working through like you would think I would start to like get on the ship but it never really came in yen. Oh my God it never came in. I kept on hoping that every time I heard about these two like it would have been over by now and now it's finally over. He said I will always love her and I know she will always love me and you know as far as family. What we have built is really cool and really special. He explained that they will still do family vacations and holidays family and really make that a focus for the kids lovely. Hopefully the kids are fans of machine. Gun Kelly 'cause he's coming around so like normally. I'm not really excited at the prospect of like family. You know breaking up parents kids involved but at the same time. I'm like too excited about the prospect of machine gun. Kelly and Meghan talks to give a shit about these kids. I this is fabulous megabucks. Time is coming like she was with someone for ten years who just wasn't on her level and now she's with it's probably such a different feeling for her like be with someone on her level. You know yet for sure or someone who liked together they will rise you know. Because like she's I haven't heard from her in a while like we're on of the Wallace department store is like she's been kind of quiet and I feel like her Michigan Calories. Just GonNa both be taken to level from this relationship. And they feel like he'll be a good step down to the kids so the kids will be looked after like the campers will be like machine gun. Kelly is the. I'll never forget the first time I saw machine Kelly because when I was an intern at aol they put on this interview series where celebrities too depressing like nobody watched it but like it was still like cool because they got caught people and Machine Gun Kelly came and normally nobody really showed up to these things but he promoted it on its social media and this was the six years ago so we had like a really like tumbler like really underground following and all these people showed up to the corporate on. Aol headquarters like spiky hair tattoos. It was just like daddy chokers like it was just crazy. And he came into the interview and literally stop the interview in the Middle Took. His shirt off started rapping screaming in the middle of a corporate office. Like all. These people were jumping crowdsurfing. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen and I was like damn. Who is this kind of Hot? Many resurfaced with that whole. Camila Cabello Song and it was such a good song like literally one of her chicken song then he resurfaced as being like the man who picked up the pieces from Rei macron day. Breaking Davidson's heart brought petain take away in a very low point in his life. Run into the Golden Globes like Oscar Party. And he's just to me. I've seen him in so many different phases of his life and I've respected him ever since so like. I'm just excited about this. I'm excited about. I never had an opinion about him until the movie with Davidson that we just watch adult adult and I was like. Wow He's handsome feller. No he's very handsome but like he's like a little rough around the edges like when you hear about him like he's bad to the bone in like he's you know. Edgy. But he's also quite handsome. So get you a guy who can do. Both Meghan box has and I I look forward to watching ship. Come in yet. No I'm standing at the port and I'm looking and it appears to be close to shore so I'm wearing this nautical shirt today. 'cause okay this story is really sad so just going to transition to sadness highlight actor. Gregory tyree Boyce and his girlfriend were found dead in Las Vegas. Have you heard the story yes? Try Dr Gregory Tyree Boyce. In twenty seven year old girlfriend were found dead in in their Las Vegas Condo last week. According to a report on Monday voiced and Natalie peggie. We're pronounced dead on May. Thirteenth News reported their. Cause of death is pending. Toxicology report as an actor voice was known for his role in the first of the twilight movie franchise. He played tyler. Crowley who has a crush on? Kristen Stewart's character Bella Swan. He also appeared in the short film apocalypse. Prior to their deaths they had been working on starting a wing restaurant according to his mother who posted a tribute on facebook calling him the best chef. I've read what his mother facebook and it was just so sad She was so heartbroken. I was so excited about his future. And Mrs just a really sad mysterious story and I just feel so sad for both of them yet. It's like spooky Like lazienki cause of death. They both were found to add. I it just. It's so weird. And it's really sad 'cause they were so young And loved him in twilight so really wishing his family. The bestest is a terrible fucking story. Same and I hope that they get answers. Soon right Okay going switch gears right again to use. Jade repair till bear is pregnant and expecting baby number three with husband. Tanner to- bear weight. I heard that jade were tolbert was pregnant. Oh no no no. You're confused. It's jade till bear on. Sorry I got confused with the other Order yet no you would think jade roper tober maybe pregnant. But it's not. It's Jaderow payer tool bear bill back. Jane Repair announced Monday. She's pregnant and exacting her third child with husband. Tanner told there after sharing a family photo along with the pregnancy tests in a sonogram picture on instagram. Here we grow again. She captioned it if the also good to be able to finally talk about this pregnancy. If you noticed I haven't been on social media much the past couple of months. It's because I was dealing with terrible nausea teague on top of taking care of two kiddos during a pandemic thankful excited for this bet. I truly believe that as being born during this time are here for a special reason to be light workers. We are beyond happy to be light workers. The way that it weird light worker could be fixing the lights down to the construction site with a drill. We are beyond happy to love another baby to get. Emmy and bricks and other sibling to have our children be so close. Oh my God. This is so sweet. They're such a sweet family. I love I do love Bachelor Baby News. Because with every bed that is born and gives like the franchise another season to let people think that they're doing some good in the world. Yeah no and like outweighs like in the scale like when you get to heaven and God like ways all the good things you. It's like look what they did. They tried to like religious creator's life but they're responsible for like ten kids now so like eight kind of ways out. I guess that's like Mike Places judgment that is his share life young winner life creator. Does it balance out. I actually think it. Does you think I don't know I mean who are we to judge? We are now onto judge but in regards to this story like I know that you're you like of course you never know what goes on behind closed doors and like you shouldn't like really like look at other people's lives and like one emulate it like you should be grateful for what you have but like. I just like to have the perfect life and I'm sure that they have their own shed but like they're just appears like everything happens for them. Do you know what I mean. Yeah except for just to give you some perspective. Few things one they won that draftkings money. But then oh tanner's own friend Leslie not forget. Goose Goose of crystalline goose. Rather him out and they didn't at the money other thing that I just like can't get out of my mind no matter how hard I try. They were on marriage boot camp and they were like fighting in the room and it was just like they're just like us. You raise some very interesting points. Once again reminding people. Nobody's perfect Hannah Montana Senate best. Nobody's perfect but I agree with you that they are goals but like perfect isn't gold because nobody is perfect like they seem like they have a real true relationship. The family keeps growing and they have such cute peppers and they seem like overall content with their life. And that's really all you can ask or remember their Palaccio say in Kentucky or Kansas were living and now they live in La and it's still a pilates like the nicest house ever seen. I know but like when they were living in Polat K. In Kansas and they had a laid at barnes and horses yet. I don't know if they had horses but it was nice. It looks like they had horses. Yeah I wonder what happened to that house. I think they were selling it but they built from the ground up. I remember she did a youtube tour and like this is custom. Custom countries are custom cabinets. Custom custom custom five minutes later. We're moving la. Yeah interesting. Dairy love nothing repaired so bear. Oh is it the fifth and final brought to you by billy? Yes it is so happy to hear that Jackie Self Care and routines are always important. Whatever you're using to get ready for the day should make you feel amazing. So meet Billy. 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Okay Tick Tock taps Disney executive Kevin Meyer as their new CEO the head of Disney plus streaming service will lead. The video APP owned by by tendons as Chinese company seeks global expansion. So Kevin Mayor who was passed over for the top job at Walt Disney Co. You know the one who would take over for Bob. Eiger is becoming chief. Executive uptick talk in a jump from one of the entertainment. Industry's most venerable names. To one of its busiest new arrivals. I think that this is so interesting. So this is the guy who launched Disney plus. Then he didn't get the job. Ceo and now he's go. He's taken his towns to talk. Honestly good you know you have to know your worth you do have to know your worth And I hope this means like really exciting improvements for tic TAC even though like I don't even know what they need. It's the perfect platform. I spent all morning on it. I I think a lot of people are just like concerned or like the the only real discussion around tick tock is like it's the biggest happen the world can at last so. I think it's great that they're having someone from Disney who is from an established company like a long lasting company. Come over hopefully bring some of that stability to tick tock because musically was like everything of the sort until it wasn't you know yeah and no it definitely. I think takes would probably be worried about just like earning out like. Is this really just like a quarantine? Hobby I think that they have all the makings of being a forever. Sort of caught form but they definitely have to make the right moves at this time. Yeah I agree. They I foresee not that. I know anything but I do. Foresee it being like a stagnant platform where like people are just GonNa always have one like instagram to talk? Yeah I that I like to talk so it's a good platform. That's the T- that's on that should be jive entire TV. Recap second yes we should I wanNA hear about. What were you saying that you watched the seinfeld special? Yes so it's called twenty three hours left and first of all it was just fabulously done. He had like a full orchestra on stage at the beacon. The lights it was really like old. Hollywood Glamour And the first twenty minutes me and Ben were dying. It was just really. Seinfeld like talking about just how difficult everything is like. He's like even you guys came here to my show tonight like did it get together tickets. Pick you up like it was all the intricacies of how leaving the house is terrible and how everything you do. You only do it so that you can come back home. Yeah Lou's like so funny. Me And ben were dying and then it just stopped it just completely stop being funny and it was weird because like Seinfeld's very specific. He has like an older demographic really. Jewish humor And I felt like he just started talking about like cellphones and like Social Media. Just like in an attempt to like be relevant. I don't even know it just felt so unnatural and it was so not funny. It was literally like local Vegas comedy opener like it was there. Were some jokes I was. It was so strange. Because he's so funny and he does this clean type of humor. It's like not vulgar which I really like. And he's been like one of my favorite comedians. We were dying at I like and I look at Ben and I'm like we haven't laughed in like ten minutes it just it came to a halt and it because it was just like why aren't Seinfeld talking about your phone in your pocket and like it's like it just it made no sense and I dislike. We eventually turned it off. And I'm sure picked back. Every set of comedy like has highs and lows but the low was just so long that we just couldn't get back into it. Wow Okay I WANNA watch game out though. Yeah it was so funny. It was so ben like and it just really. It's like twenty three hours and left. It's like everything in life is so long and hard and I just. I thought that was gonna be the whole special. I'm like I totally relate especially in quarantine like I totally relate to that concept that like everything is just difficult people difficult and you hate your friends but you don't WanNa go make new friends who to stick with the old ones like it was so funny and then it just it was like a different comedian stepped on stage. That is so interesting. Okay I will definitely be there. Yeah and that's all I watch and then we went and watched them old. We just wanted to watch something funny to watch him old. Chapell stand up. Which was it was crazy. Honestly like Becky just can't believe you said some of the stuff that he says. A which one did you watch? It was called the Byrd revelation or something. I don't know would you recommend it honestly? No I'm not even like pc police but it was really like some of it was like making me uncomfortable. He talked a lot about Louis C. K. And also spoke about how he no he knew a lot of the stuff that he was saying was crazy and wrong but he just wants to say it because we comedians have a responsibility to be reckless into be offensive. So like I got it. Just some of the stuff I as a woman. I couldn't get on board with it at the same time. He's also like such a like a champion a women it makes no fucking sounds like he was just talking about like and then he ended. It was just a little all over the place like I couldn't decide what side he was taking an anything which I think it was the point on someone who believes that like comedian should be able to joke about things like I was here for but like as a woman I was not here for a lot of the stuff of God. Okay now I'm now. I'm just curious to watch it but I probably won't know was if it doesn't come highly recommended like barely even watch the stuff. I'm excited about watching. Yeah no I don't know if I would like one hundred percent recommended like there were parts that were so funny but like I just felt like a little bit of a pit the whole time understood. Do you see the politicians in got gotTA release date? June nineteenth. I'm so excited me to. Hopefully we'll be out of the house by then I'll be too busy to watch it but at this rate no one really knows. Hopefully I'll be watching it like while ALFRESCO. Yeah the prospect of which makes me so excited I'm out. It's really crazy Watching like so many states are opening up or things like moving. And it's just we're living in a different world. You know you know like people are really making strides like the curve has been flattened. A few restaurants are choosing business. Owners are choosing to open if they feel safe because they're not now allowed to and I just like I don't know what planet I'm on because it's not that one no and like no one. Has that choice here. But it's the beginning of the week and so. I'm I'm starting off on foot. You know I put on today just to stay in my house and so we'll be patient. Yes did you watch anything? You WANT TO RECAP I'm not finished with money yet. So odd there's not that much that I want to say but I don't know it just like the trope of the show is just getting like exhausting at some point the hostages. I know that no one is going to kill them. Like you can just walk out the front door Like the like in the first spoiler like they don't kill hostages. They're not they're not murderers are not there to kill people and like. I know what we're supposed to be on the side of the professor and his squad But at the end of the day like their criminals in their thieves and so every time something goes against them like. I'm like excited that. The police are winning so like it's really like the Super Bowl. Whichever team wins is the team that I wanted to win because I really don't give a shit but you know who's who's time is it summertime. No it's not their time. Oh who's time? Yeah you sewer time. Great no no it was the chiefs time and the other one was the. What city did we offend San Francisco San Francisco? I think we did offend San Francisco. That sounds that sounds about right. I don't even listen to. It wasn't their time. That's thing but the super what's so crazy is the super bowl was just like a month before the Q. Yeah no it was like two months ago no but like it feels like years ago when I started. The toast was freezing. It literally put a blanket on my legs and I've never been hotter. That's great worked up a sweat. Yes I did before we bring up anything we want to promote episodes of our Patriot Channel Podcast episodes to your toasters. And then Taylor Shifting Episode. There are new episodes of tnn shows coming out all week on. There was a new episode of the date. 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Talk Filmy to Me

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Queen and Slim

"In a cloud where there are already too many film podcasts. You have to ask yourself. What's the harm one? Ordinary men armed with qualified opinions. Talk Filming to me friends and welcome to Soak Clooney's me podcast film. PODCAST news time German pop culture every week we drop a podcastone spotify stitcher and other podcasting hosting platforms. Where talk about films what we love? What we don't order fan of in-between joining me as my co host? My boy my main man. John How you doing pat amazing I'm just seeing the fame. Shrimp very fresh. No John Out of a bag rustling. Let's get out alive if you hear that that means I'm hungry for sugar. Apologies valent hungry for sugar. So Baptist Week July saying Iran's of the press last night very much so yes people not high whereas fucking Pars. You didn't drop the part of the usual time. Yes because it was the last night the British Academy of Film and Arts Awesome Entertainment's has had there would ceremony now to be honest. I was a bit after the nomination. Thing of just how. Let's just call it for is lack of diversity lack of inspiration lack of representation and but I headlock soccer. I watched it anyway and yeah. We're going through. Every would calgary. Let's let's let's get straight into sessile ceremony itself. They clearly knew that there was an elephant in the corner and I had to talk about it off the Bat. So Graham noon to literally out movies opening monologue describing I he referenced. The Irishman Four. The Times in five minutes like we get so long film. You'd have to keep banging on both of us about the controversy about all of the directors that were nominated for best director Mayo. How there was no people of color outside of the rising star category which was touched a little bit on later and tried to make it a bit other nice poking you can find themselves but it's like it's a joke? I'm just my shit selection. And after four lights made to be fair out Harry come out and said the Prince William Combat and set will be a full investigation. So God is a full rebel Wilson. Her speech like off cringing. When they come out God she's had already shit year and she was actually fucking hilarious series on it? Why lights not every joke planted but she persevered and some of them were brilliant when Yeah there and she pushed like this is a kind of well-to-do Tux so venue very fancy and she just came out with these absolute filthy jokes code over China giving giving wallet while it. Yeah I love this. She story evening without anti made. Some very potent remarks about the lack of diversity. I know why she wasn't subtle but I have to ask the joke about current viruses. Yeah the mosque now has got his hosting. Who's well Joaquin? Phoenix had a very good knots humorous but a very important speech about I. I love thousands of white guilt. Let's be honest. I think there's kind of a narrative with joker in the fucking film twitter awards spirit amount. It's getting is all all like trump's toxic towards the film is that sort of annoys me. There's like a backlash is the scapegoat. Isn't it it's like Joan Komo in it but it's really good move and the fact that he he come out with this science come out if they spent any reason the right reasons but everyone who was shopping in the noise the fucking get one in on Joaquin off fuck anyway. I'm GonNa talk about specific speech. I'm going to quote it now. Just yeah it's important. We should talk about this shit so I feel very honored and privileged to be here tonight. The Baxter's have already been a very supportive of my career and I am deeply appreciative. But I have to say I also feel conflicted because so many of my fellow actors are deserving. That don't have the same privilege. I think we send a very clear message to the people of Color. That are not welcome here. I think the message that we're trying to send papal has contributed so much to our media money industry and it always would benefit from. I don't think anybody wants handouts doubts. Preferential treatment. Would I'd ask what we give ourselves. Every eight people just once be acknowledged appreciated and respected for their work this is not self righteous condemnation because on the shame to say I am part of the problem I have not done everything in my power to ensure the says I will always inclusive. I think it's more than just having sets that multicultural cultural we do have to work. Really hard to truly understand systematic racism. I think it's the obligation of the people that have created this and the benefit of the system oppressions the ones that dismantle dismantle it site acts on us and that was a bit too much buffalo really important for his acceptance speech where it was interesting. Yeah it was a great speech. He said there was a lot on Joan. Colonel Thinking it was a bit of it was well timed and well said but at the same time even washing the highlights. Sof is quite exhausting. The woke nece and you know at the end of the day. have an awards celebration would go. You don't just make it complete guilt. Fueled and don't turn up if you really. You want to protest it. Don't give a speech refusal refuse it. Don't go you speak to someone who didn't go. Brad Pitt right so he. He went best supporting actor which talking very world is a good speak. He speech was about Ninety Harry and taken to America. I I love to have pissed off was quitting. Tarintino guy for the big ones and I'll talk to you. Might Miss the big one. The big winner in the nineteen seventies for best film the acceptance speeches were coming from everyone in that. Yes I John Films. When was the year already you? Jimmy love this is probably a very worthy winner. Best leading actress Scarlett Johansson was nominated but did not get any fucking can award a total last night it was running Zellweger and even down like a like a hip padding in our face but I don't think she has had like a and I'm not I'm not doing ernest to poke fun and it's just weird right now. She's got a problem with plastic surgery or had an addiction with something. She looked like she was crying. Neen tire time because the situation because the screen was also I wanted. I wanted to talk to my is to be honest. It was a painful acceptance thanking everyone. She literally listed out. I mean the WHO can forget Tim Table. Yeah and she has a voice. Yeah plates were she thinks she was. Wherever I think Scott Hanson if she got it from our story on it deserved it for Joe Girardi Not Laura Dern who won supporting actress by marriage story I love? She's amazing and she gave an amazing speech on it. You just I realize the enormity of the moment for when she said my mom oneness Australian racing honest right as Dr Al Gore Award. GRANDPA uh-huh Scarlett Johansson in. My opinion was fucking robbed supporting actress for Gioja Arabia Gerald Ford. She was fantastic. We already mentioned walking. Getting joker. I don't if anyone can really argue with. Leo was in for a shout for sure because that was his best role. Ever once in Hollywood's gay showing me didn't up Yeah I'm happy as Rafer. He if anyone was deserve I mean yeah. Supporting actor was Brad Pitt mentioned before. He's acceptance speech by Margot. Robie was fucking hilarious outstanding British film nineteen seventeen here with a full lord film that cleaned up in the British award ceremony with a bunch of Brits in would win properly British film from Springfield Larry Coker Ohka God winning of that. I think well I mean the most obvious award of the night in my opinion was not an English language. Parasite I mean it's been cleaning house coast host. We knew that I was going to win. That animated film class. They off and when I started off camera awards year like that's what happened animated film a for a deserve more class like deserved. Its moment to show on this over the director of a stiff competition to be fed in there. Yeah story for frozen to yet and again which is chomping fog yes. It's deserved more than just that. Our MBARGA work director. The Big One San Mendez. I'm gutted for quit in territory. Though because like pants he's vice and it was just pule rage he always looks Iowa. This is even move. All right how are wouldn't have begrudged him to be honest. Well I love not intervene. The name of once upon a time in Hollywood's is the best movie time teen is made since early on a task at to the wall chairs brilliant. It's off a Orion mind. Is it said nine each day. It's had the more what she like. Get up I'll put something in the background. Brad Pitt in particular in better better of injury and as does the House Senate and I know this might be like. I can't not slagging off. I saw waterfall is Margot Robie constantly getting recognition for her role in this when she only has like six minutes of dialogue in that. But the more you see the movie think the fact that way even having a conversation about In such a small role the more you save me appreciate it before she is very very good in that original screenplay spots massive debate fight on film twister ever wants an original screenplay original screenplays but now alike and parasite one beat. A lot of people are really hoping knives out that would win. Let's be honest. I Germany loved film. Can't believe that it did not get recognition deserved but anyway I mean it starred. John Rapid Lucky was going to clean up. Our sexy. You want signed offering. Judge is GonNa do amazing it came right back adapted screenplay for it. I think another awarded one as well but and stopped at Tober screenplay fantastic original school joker again very very well deserved and determine the dancing thing and everything else. That's that's Arne PA at the screen. It's actually the music that makes as well as my school. Yeah and the very novel played that music too Joaquin to kind of set the time for the scenes because the marriage between the two. It's like he's listening to that in. The Hague is head for the whole movie. Isn't it. YEA incredible way so yeah. I'd say it's very original music. Amazing original school amazing the way they solve at properly linked up the score with beer with the movie. I mean cinematography. There's only one winner here when you've got the most cinematography style edited film in Nineteen Seventeen off the whole thing. Yeah there's no white I could win and nothing should because my God were a feet. But that's a cushion design the women not period piece. I was Kinda Hoping Joe Joe Rabbit will gay just because of the boom done review. We're calm. I designs the costume ethnic as incredible. We're bad men because we haven't seen women. Yeah Oh you have. Yes so much better than me so you reviewing it. All our weight went up a couple of weeks house cinemas anymore scientists. Kind of not the rule is you have to be L. Review stuff that people can actually go see there. And then maybe the retro thing I love to get your thoughts on at some point. Maybe maybe we'll get John especially effects nineteen seventeen take as well. This is the time that stuff like the lion. King mentioned them riser Skywalker and stuff like that. In fact Disney didn't really do very well tool but Game Disney yeah. Yeah because the billions of dollars that might not ask here bills and bear indicated if dumb shit and let's go with the rising star what this this year in particular environment by the public. That Talib sorry so get over Macau a little bit that talent this year for rising star I mean they showed a quick quick video. VCR over previous winners. You Got People like Daniel Columbia. You've got John Boyega you go. Tim Hardaway like list goes on and on and on like the people that have won this award have gone on to amazing things. And let's talk about the people were nominated so Akwa Fina absolutely fantastic. tastic actress Jack. Loudon who literally came out nowhere. That's been in tons of amazing films. caitlyn endeavor as whereas Kevin Harrison and Michael Ward who ultimately ultimately was the winner by literally. List is so good like every one of those people are going onto on amazing things that's Potenza period of time. The work experience kids go there. Well these these people that can smashing it yes. This is one of the diverse categories. The Sky is always patronizing is rising star. We'll give you a shout out with devices thing. I can't remember in previous years but to try and show they're a bit more diverse appropriately are. I decided for the rising star had agree to inbetween. Awards was to do a profile. H candidate that was nominated. So tell anyone so you generally for doing rising star now fucking way Utah Okay. I've done a loan pace but I'll go all right now the guy he's loudon until about information but we are we. We're told that we're fighting for a bit about bookmark to map book. SMART Young Woman. It was bit hand fished in. Let's put it that WII and it ended with Williams mentioned giving that final speech about how this guy's before review representation ceremonies. I mean I think message message loud and clear. Do something about it in terms of lifetime. Achievement Awards Andy Circus are so happy to see. This and Circus got lifetime achievement award freeze freeze the young together as well. I think the stuff is now. He's world to Charlie Chaplin of Digital Care People not too far now he pioneered. I need motion capture for films like ordering stuff like that but look we sung is I literally invented a style of facial capture because of Andy Circus and one ASPIC for him was when they showed the video thing. They didn't show any work as an actor as in like a live action always him who's budgie smugglers on spelled. I'm sorry for him. He's actually a really good until he's been some really great stuff so yeah very very well. Deserved and essays biggest roles have been those kind of months three anime. It's Acai okay from that perspective very true. They're filming and the fact that he's playing Alfred Britt Nicole and he's also directing them to but in between. Oh He's our stuff he's been doing. He had a I think a snowboarding accident or something so he came out and cry. She's he's like connect these award. Andy mcadam was there presented it soon as very charming Lafley the wrap-up kind of lifetime achievement awards it's per se Kathleen Kennedy of Saul was finding that I got her recognition. I didn't realize I mean silent. You will about the star. Was The new Star Wars trilogy as you about the direction of tycoon. She has had a glittering career. Like you're talking four years being a producer Steven Spielberg every big spill. Doug movie you can think of. She had a hand in and is about time. She's getting recognition for that to be honest so grave. How condon stuff with stalls but thank Cassia like what amazing why auto so? That was a standing ovation at the end. Yeah I mean as a lot of a right hand women no the right hand men destined never get the limelight. So is nice well. That's kind of on that last year as well. Scorsese's editor remember an island. Sir The point is I'll put yeah exactly but she did have miming somewhere literally. Everyone's like fucking stand up. Look this body of work. WHO gives a shit and agenda wrote a sanctuary or the race or anything look fucking work? Great Films Right and it's Nice when you put all that stuff assigned just acknowledge Buddhist escapism. And this is there we have it. The bath is what do you think he's GonNa get any more better Dr the sole traders. You're signing suggest to you now. You know like Joaquim. Says you don't want to just give out awards for the sake where I think it's more about about given the opportunities to young especially directors. I mean director category was look a little wait a minute it might over a billion dollars. Content around inside didn't go sick because they clearly did bought. A money is tight. Can you look at every category. It's been nominated for that. Film did not direct itself the right side. That's the that's the one that definition GONNA show out but I think you'll get that it has to but then I would be excited not for some years now on Gemini surprise. I think there's a stat somewhere. Outside of the the rising star nomination category you know I personally colors been no night for BAFTA since twenty. Four seven years Gouzer. But we've got some really the amazing talented people. Cala darn understand. There's some great movie I've always say on how good year for film twenty nine teams was incredible was thrown out. An ovum came out late in the year for the for the first six months often it was looking at it she had always picks up and then I think especially like ah bit. I'll get I really hate it. When film critics quite quite angry about a film? It's not in general release by the time that the award ceremonies. Come around sound like a fucking hated. It may done that with a star is born. I hate it when done that. With those films seems to be that they all came at the right time. Now so I like you can go see nineteen seventeen right now so you can go and find out what all the homes and stuff like that. I think Judy's come out yet but I think it's very soon but But yeah it's been an incredible. She's must wonder if it which will lewd review of Queen and sin. How to fuck? Is that not part of any of these conversations. I Sasha good film and at the cost. They're presenting southern style frustrating Strang but the effort rocket mangoes creal Bash speaking up and I'm a favourite go screwed where it would have got the awards but I felt like it deserved. Something said shout out really. Good music by musical biopic cast grief learning. I mean didn't even WANNA in sound I mean how in nineteen seventeen because the achievements and handle and I also think this is like a massive indication of war on the Oscars going to be. I bet now. Isn't it official. Yes is a major priest cast doubt we'll see any surprises the Scher's So Yeah but Edmund could've done move a shoutout taggart's and obviously got nominated for his amazing row but yeah I join rose original songs for that Shit Komo Machel well guy. So what did you think about the season. They got it wrong defense. WHO gives a shit? You know what they've never gonna get my attention anymore. Because of how Donald Roy describe. It's just the old man establishment is getting contests on twitter at Tocqueville me. I'm going to ask you some of you. Respond to me. I sent you a very well. CRAFTED MESSAGE LISA COP pen today out of the blue you if you want to grab him. What chain being alone not tonight? She turns attend up to. Where did you think we can have a good? I thought we were going to hang up. Maybe it's Thursday due for Sharon face. I think at the London Film Festival back in October October. and GM will release in America in November. And it's only just come out in the UK so that's what we're doing our review now. This film was a real surprise to be only started. I went in in code. I saw I heard about Phil by actually sharing traders and like these were rare occasion where you should go. Cinema without knowing much about film is directed by Melina Mattress. I pronounced that correctly is written by Lena. Waif annexed stars my God the Star. Incredible Daniel Clue Jody Turner Smith Smith in one of her first rose flea from the red hot chili peppers random. He's been some wicked man. He has been. He's actually got quite a diverse. Like he just seems to folks over starship. Let's say a lead movers. The Flynn who anyway. So what is film is about. So I said I'll tell the practice and we'll leave it at that guy for wreath from that perspective so this is essentially take people have a date. I ate belly now. Each Other to African Americans Americans in America driving home from their deitz unfortunately de living in quite a racist site couples for no reason season. There's an altercation. They defend themselves and killed a police officer dom very well done great tension. They decide to go on the run. This is II Bonnie and Clyde. This is I a high high state. Run elimidate bunny. Definitely a modern day in Clive. Now dixie is very much just just about two people barely know each other who are now tended to each other and have to try and get across the country now during travels this this. This film follows a period of six days. It is and this gets Tarizi because I the DASHBOARD CAM copiers car. And that got released on the Internet and stuff like that. This sparked a massive debate it culturally in the film about black rights and how to please treat people kind of hyper realistic very definite time. But then he built a movement so over some the people having protests about black lives matter. And we're not sort of stuff and at the center of days with these two people. When they only known as Queen Slim in fact she barely hear their names being mentioned and these took alone together only charlie circle learn how to actually like navigate? Things have got today whilst at the same time. Difference have never done their shave. Their heads leads Daniel clues character slim. He he never drank he never smoked. Tea is good boy. And then all of a sudden he's guidance these Hours and smoking weed. He didn't have the booze up and stuff like that. So it's a stunt so so well and the music is banging the everything about his film. Excuse for short radio as I like. I'll talk about micro takes a little bit later on but this film had general moments attention you never it never rests so but but literally. That will run into not staying a friend's house okay. You got the morning and if you're going to have a same sit down relax for a minute talk about what. And I don't know Sunday's a fireplace here cowhide upstairs and then it just continuously got a pisces. Bring fill out. You're on the run watching. Yeah you Jimmy. Oh you Jimmy do fill this jerry. You are on the run whilst watching this movie as moments where let the car breaks down. I love the dial between slim and queen the white I could. They are barely know you. Actually you have a fucking hate. You Chew really loudly. One day I I and then goes into the second defended and yell at any more details Nats Breda want to spoil it for anyone we've had a chance to share still in cinemas in the UK. Get your asses Guy Guy. So if you're in America chances is very close to being on the streaming service very soon anyways and make sure you by and watch in your drawings because this is definitely worth clear is is an amazing actor. He is the world's fate when you look at the stuff that he's been working on the past you know he went out and found this row and listen to an interview. Donald Trump podcast where he was talking about how the script came in before director or producer was attached and as soon as he read the script on playing this role. You'll have to fucking take my cold dead hand this. This is the role for me and you can see why a lot of traders a lot to bring out in terms of the trust. The American accent accents on pulling away so good isn't it. He's amazing in it and one line in particular which I just. It made me in here line. You think that's really smart. Really smart brighter was anti basically absolutely Giardi character queen and she's actually an attorney. She's a training attorney and against the details of her personal life itself. You learn a lot about the film is fantastic and sitting down and they're talking about her legal career and he says harping a black attorney. Guys now I have to be excellent. You can't be bad. You have to be excellent because what the black people always have to be fucking excellent. Just ourselves I was like. That's so night that made me think man. You think I Jimmy Germany loved this film. Is What Year January. So far. We've had twenty that nine hundred seventeen jo-john rabbit Queensland in UK anyway and like Mattis. Good so I'm going to be. It's I didn't like there's a couple of a bit film where I have a fading done. David press screenings or done at test screenings and I decided to do this fingers as free moments in the film on where I want to summarize up. How emotionally feeding the things we say without saying never mind quietness spoiled if territory but literally Dr by conversation over the moment to tell you how the characters are failing and it must have been people got confused store maybe awesome? Faith grew maybe five Chris and jarred me because I was just like. Is there a sinking problem with the cinema in Amman the sound system because they let looking HIV sitting there not talking. And now you're talking and I kinda get by the time the second time it happened half inch got all I get it and they're trying to tell you what they're saying without saying that it gets a little bit but yeah we're talking really small small more beer in terms of like gripes. This I was making four five at the more I think about it the more I think how enjoyed it is five out of five. We get my five sweets suites and sweets shrimp now. Why why they looked at what the community has said to? My is this guy of what I top. Pop critic has said effortlessly charismatic and using chemistry that you owe two zero to die for by Kevin Meyer at the Times Some people said it's run here. Run Person has said episode at Plodding Cliche. Supporting characters ill-judged Choices Clip Hawaii. The integrity take the opening. I do not agree of your told. Alistair Harkness of the Scotsman. And that's what the rest of the wealth of seventy so in terms of the scores. It's eighty three percent on the tonight time. Eight to ninety two percent has really high on the audience. Who on I'm with the audience? This is taught me the pallet cleanser of older fucking they blockbusters we have had of lights and over a big boon. There's actually a really interesting story to be told. Hey I think. Generally the active is incredible. The writing is brilliant. And I think Jonah Smith is cheese. Incredible like if she hasn't already she's going on a nizing things as well. So yeah you got flea. Mortar site is flare big character. Now he's kind of like for a couple of things he's he's Great Zambezia nutcase. Because he's normally I now basic clay without going into again magazine. Spoilers at some point they have to stop at his house for some to help. And that's IT I love it. They're gonNA make an anthony. Kia this dispaced on Akitas based on his book right Scott. d'isa bio PIC Wade Tappan. That book flew off the shelves. People love it even people. We want fans of Chili peppers. His his life is crazy is flay can apply himself. He looks pretty much. Does the embassador future randomly noodles or needles Jamba. No along calls Mary checkered nerd. Always nobody say he was like in mood. What size away so we early? But the futures yes Jason. He's been in films point break. He plays a lot back guys. We'll do a feature of athlete and advertise in my recommendation. Definitely a film with a month so far get yourself to sit mark go sit five five no matter how it ends. What can I be your legacy and you already are John? We talked about this a while ago when you said to me Flynn if he could take your favorite old franchises you give them a last Hurrah era. What would it be? And I said lethal weapon would heard me or maybe it was Oregon on in the background. Who knows but it's going to be lethal weapon? Five Bloody Mel Gibson is coming back and do not much power in that part of our desire dog level not Donald Glover so I undone again your dreams monitoring Danny Glover guys be reprising. He's WRO and Eric Claxton come back and do guitar if he stuff as well J. Heat he concentrates in the Co ever he very brexit Nice did he earned him for you very very honestly. I didn't know this probably. Yeah for about said on Saturday in Philadelphia. I do an episode where they make their own version of a lethal weapon. Movie and their twitter account tweeted the news. It's been done this so the metrics for this. This is a film that is gathering pace is gathering pace. Amazing speeds. Obviously Kiana coming back. We also know. Parents Laurence Fishburne Hugo even going to be reprising. Their arose Dr Laura which are ski. Yes well both of them are nine hundred the NF sister is is not involved at all right because Lana Wachowski but it's going to be a lot of people that she has worked with clouds and stuff like that. So this is exciting and doc. Forgive me I cannot remember him but the the actress who marry the Joseph Bravo recently. She's just been costs as well in that movie saw. Ah Yes the this. Yeah I'm giving give it a go. You Know Matrix always. It's not like you can accuse the move ruining a franchise. Because let's be honest. Cyber and non franchise already ruined it so give it one last crack at the way we love Kiani. He's he's he can do no wrong in my eyes. This could be full but we still go bill and Ted's but yeah that's Mike Summit wacky go Frit Frit lights go so think about an. It's quite funny science all otherwise off when people say when is the promise of the C- cool never lived up and never more than the Matrix right. The end of that movie when neo flies away literally the whole world. Any Sikh. Who you've wrote in your head is not all kinds of match up to this actually has been films where the actually lived up to the promise and I can only think of one example nice been into a furniture when nicholls to MIDAS to the future part also when he? I don't think I figured I like. I'm not of the generation that saw bats the future. I command cinema. I've only ever seen the re releases and the the box sets and stuff like that now. My understanding is that there was not that roads where we're going there won't Birdie roads at the end of the first that wasn't they didn't make that city. It was army when I come back to Mike the Second and third movie they may down and put it in and the vhs version and box style then be released but back prentice of like when he is right. We're going to fly away or wherever government rights rights and by. Just take off like that's amazing. The way it sets that premise and the earned literally the only film in my opinions actually live up to that party. There's low to good seat for not I've lived up to the promise of their set right to. What did I talk about high near Blah Blah Blah right? Do you know what I mean. What the bread crumbs left in the first film Batman begins with Joker Card documents very very very good at Commitee's and they've actually live delivered to the Brian Lehrer? Yeah what Prick teases films. Good question by I see. I see your point breadcrumbs very little films that actually deliver on their bread crumbs. Trump's in fact let's make that feature for next week so I pay listed on twitter and whatnot. I'll put it as apoe. Tell us your films which actually collect lead breadcrumbs to greis equal and pull it off. Y of I'll take you have people get fired kirk on it. So yes I that was matrix full signs interesting. We talked about Taryn. Edison lock in Goodlatte. We'll see up to at least pain. I'd light up for a little shop of horrors remake and being the lead. Oh He's under Miami. We sing. Ride the wave. Yeah I'm hey he could. He got up beautiful voice that wash our Saturday. He in my opinion really. Yeah I actually. I am singing songs announcing him. I'm we'll also hear that. Wouldn't it up. I think it gets it. I felt I figure this thing. The spends his remaining days listened to fill me if he does. I'm sorry I think I love you please for me and it's hard even better. Yeah yeah but out. Shopping kid on is a musical adapted web. uh-huh like that Plov the big Plon. Oh Yeah I remember much. I remember being fucking scared. Par Steve I'm faking it was rick. Rick can sign back Future at ghostbusters. Run on. Your tongue is nice. It was state line. Honey I shrunk Huntington Rain Ridler who buy one at the biggest actors on applying when film came out when evo didn't he when he went on folks in his wife passed away and he decided that that's legitimately the reason why he just quit acting play and I'm really hope that because we go to opportunities in the next two years for him to be freund for a appearance ghostbusters. Growing up right now right lords custody account and this little shop Lahore fucking prudent right not start the high speaking about being revamped so thin and then water. The thing's been remade lodestones I. She is originally from outer space then made into classic movies that we know of the two thousand eleven prequel also called the thing just be more fucking confusion anyway. This is based on a book the original anyway and that that book is being abducted films again now so the thing for me to nine thousand nine hundred eighty one with Kurt. Russell is just one of the best horror slash sifi slash eighteen films ever. It's not an ethics. In a moment I wanNA watch you okla hanging to watch the thing about buying. What's remain Skopje? Somewhere where are you a thing families Xena now I can tell by fresh as very very good is yet older. Trump's you can think about modern horror movies probably element to dispersion Russian especially the body horror stuff. He really really went big on that. And again I cut Russell's content and get involved. Somehow we making some money here we fucking speaking of making money off his back with the segues last night the super bowl happened one expensive halftime productions of all time. It's estimate that during the halftime show itself one minute equates to one million dollars and during those commercial breaks dies the time for the film industry. Lift up it's skirt. Ska showers WEISKOPF and we had a bunch of traders. That have dropped me. John went an hour ago. Just kind of get a flavor so where this is talk for each one of them now opinions of them Moulin Moulin so Disney obviously live Action Disney remake. We sick is that. Yeah I kind of do Bandy next oh come on the line on. We know happens. I China's for Milan often. It looks kind of intriguing. Ah It looks. I kind of feel like it should be gritty. And you know it's not that'd be grits he because it's Disney war-movie technically issue. I agree with you and I can win. I mean the thing is Disney GonNa say own about films keep making a billion dollars. Plus the fact is anyone now a but not winning awards Iowa Disney world. I'm sure the head of money taste late homeroom comfortable but basically they go like shot for shot remake I the Lion King and Jock Doc. People give that expression I try and do something a little bit different but do it wrong my opinion Aladdin. Absolutely something different then with me I see come out and sit there. I know people got their gripes with this. Fill the gave if some pretty damn good reasons to why these changes the we felt. It wasn't appropriate to thirty two songs. Someone on them Musharraf US didn't refill occupies a fan Ed representation of what the story we wanted to tell. And Yeah when my Kness fucking a lot. That APP hit I had sorry flavors of older different from Hong Kong cinema. You can think of in bed. Production movie hunt. What's the worst they can do right? And I think there's the worldwide is films really good and I think people should just see it before they judge you. I hope siphoning me I was very dramatic this this. How section is about seat judge before we see they've looney so that's very important? I get the hypocrisy camera on excite. What about black widow? That tried to drop I think is the fun one very close to the final one. Look on I'm excited this film. I do think it's going to be a very telling you okay for Comic Book Movies. I think after twenty nine hundred is only being anti-climactic because you had endgame you had joker you had captain marvel you've had what happening in the world of TV of the verse. An older staff that has gone on in between it's gotta be anti-climactic are already grooten. Acoustic wasn't GonNa be but this is the first step in the new world from and it's going to be interesting to see what I go. Yes it's interesting that made some decisions to go back but maybe I think going forward but yeah yeah. You've heard me talk about the trader. I think we got a little bit more more taskmaster and coordinate now Florida is the bad guy anyway. Moving on Spongebob Funds World. Spongebob as in it. Yeah Hustle some good low cameos. At least they randomly originalist has. That been up. Didn't nice there's been tons of. Spongebob movies do they have. This animated style. I love different ones. I don't want to live action one and had Antoni me to watch me seven that you need to the Spongebob Universe. I'm saying I'm not obsessed responsible I I I definitely got time for this movie in the kind of funny lives with pace maybe lego movie but the the anime style slightly judge me just because spongebob is quite conic. I guess they have. They can't do it like cartoony. They have away from that but for just two cartoon stop just punish Simpson's maybe right spicing the same animation. But it was just really clean. I ate up NOPE bulletin water. Nothing could be here are predates guy off a billion. What's GonNa be what's going to be a big hit that or nightime to die I would say die mash up those two movies side stomach truly original John You oughta Mash up man you should be the one to hear your own core and but yeah we own our? It's coming to an end of things about bond with Daniel Craig and everything else I even said on the twenty fifth film dish changes everything by doing nothing different. Yeah thank you most to fifty years in the future and look at the Fiftieth Ball. Maybe it's GONNA be fairly go not ago on mate. Done obliged bond combat full circle and Daniel Craig's reprise fries just pointing announced the new digital de Aging. Somehow so I couldn't segue into the next one. You didn't give me much but quite nice part two quite part one before we knew it was part one anyway. A quiet place such good film. I love John Christine Skate Gate. Emily Blunt. Incredible we're getting more of the same Whitson flashbacks as well. But hopefully I hate flashbacks in films when you now has lattened much to move on progress. Take me forward I wash. This is US flashback. Last back porn may if united is pretty pleased. Yeah I see what you mean speaking of Porn cruiser. I share on the maverick Afric- traders. There's no way kind of were able you gain more higher need for speed is there. He actually learned supplier. Parking jet pilot jet a jet plane for this like come on. What more do you need more man? I mean he's almost dedicates cates actors around and he's still making bake action movies the very predictable but a very high hair. No one thousand bell no true and it's not just who he surrounds himself with its Staccato rations. And actually no side by side. The mission impossible collaborations. Here's Tom Christmas. Corey absolutely phenomenon. I are currently planning the seventh and eighth movie at the moment. Kristie Corey tweeted an image of economy. John was nine but someone who was in mission impossible the first mission impossible movie. So you're not saying where eighth and hunt goes to arrest strong Tom Wright famous. Yes the chewing squeezed to cheering guy from AMEX. So ever like telling him that he's being set up. He's got that guy to be the main guy in these new film because he's just goes in the membrane together I am. I'm psyched for this. I'm curious just we like he knows he's he's he's running out of time he's older he's out he's got he's got the mission impossible movies he's got the died after not down at some point and that it'll be another interesting. Phase of his career is sat daij sites of a movies. I won't act again. I'm not I wasn't asking before this guy. Yeah Yeah for one. sit down you can eat. Jared mccloud can handle that man and I've Ascott fucking I'll take the tropic thunder. Give us give us something. That's not running. I want you to rest. Stop near you. Don't see much anyway. Let's move on invisible man because we've been talking about this film forever because the trade has been dropping repeatedly asked you think this is the final one. You've got money I'm going to say. Oh yeah sure I may not much more you can show us really. That's not change your point there but yeah we're by CPR intrigued super up for this. Maybe we should even play the mandate for this film. Flynn aid. Should they buying up for this. Show me anymore. Trailers with Moss also Beta the incredible and to kind of. Wrap it off in. Fact the PRESCREENS for this aren't Sunday. Sonic the hedgehog dropped last promo which was basically more about having a bunch of athletes athletes talking about shit but now what Jim Carey shut his mouth now like he's eight. I love the man you know I love Jim Carey that he was pretty cringe. Webvan Grant Mugabe. It was very strange like the crowd was so laughing along. Bert Margot Robie was uncomfortable. And I were uncomfortable and vice offers I would have landed. Yeah it was a funny but I he's an MP for you he's going to miss sometimes but he's a wacky crazy raising my man my about to go comedians last night. He's fucking Shit and Obama and he's anyway and what we're talking about is essentially essentially a reference to Mugabe essentially employee. She's on he goes far. She has of her looks of course. She's stunning she's also a stunning actor. She's actually very fucking good. It was way when you put it nine o'clock because that's basically you some very perfectly there that's basically what happened It'll be interesting. I mean obviously also very nice person. Can you imagine maybe have have a slightly more brash or older woman. Maybe you forgot but anyway hopefully that's just a blip and that we don't hear any more of that and we get the Jim Carrey love and more importantly the Jim Carey in love on screen being. He's Wacky zany flaming naming Lim self. So I think that's pretty much it for the traders and that is your news for this week. Thank you so much for taking your time to listen to this podcast. 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Criming Into Your Golden Years

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Criming Into Your Golden Years

"Hi I am cliff Dorfman and I have a brand new podcast is called the cliff Dorfman show and I would love you to come check it out. I get to talk to some of the the best in some of my favorite artists. We have some amazing guests coming up Dane Cook and we have lasy Lonzo coming up. Stephen Dorf Christina Rod. Hello from whiskey sixty eight late George from animal kingdom we have a whole roster of people coming up for you to listen to Peruse and hopefully we get you. Here's a regular person coming on board all the time the cliff. Dorfman show ladies and gentleman Hello and welcome to the daily beans for Monday January thirteenth twenty twenty today. Pelosi changes course a bombshell L. about trump's motives in the SULEJMANI strike pompeo's definition of imminent and style buys his way into the democratic debate as we approach the first primary three weeks from today. I'm your host Jian with music is Jordan Coburn Hulu and Mandy reader. Hello how are you great said Javard weekend. Yeah yes. It's been good happy. Happy Monday to those of you listening on Monday. Hope your week is good. Yes Me Too 'cause weeks can be hard. You know what Monday morning it can be really optimistic time or a really like Oh shit Everything feels bad and I have so much to do this kind of time. So hopefully it's the more positive one definitely hope commute is going great He waved to the person next to you right now. Yeah Smarter. Stranger look at look at the smile at the person next to you at the stop late but really the Really could be about it you. Yeah and then sing songs beautiful singing your car. Great Start Start. Having Monday friends really trying to really high up the Monday I you know I remember when when I was doing. A regular workweek Tuesday's worse. Yeah Tuesdays were like you were flying from the weekend and it's still so far away from the next next weekend. I didn't like Tuesday's so tomorrow but today anyway we do have a lot of news to get to the hot notes. Hot notes all right. Let's start with what I think is extremely overlooked new story in recent days and and that's the report out from the Wall Street Journal traditionally. That's a conservative news outlet and it's called trump's new national security team made fast work of Iran strike This this is a long article it starts in the situation room Tuesday night the sit room. After they got warnings that Iranian missiles would hit two. US military bases in Iraq. It goes on to say trump's national security team in the sit room was relieved when they found out. There were no casualties. Then there's a press conference the next morning trump didn't talk that ninety waited until the next morning. I personally think it's because he was just he wasn't presentable so they had to get him that way. like bender. Something do the weekend Bernie's thing Then the press conference was the next day. And that's when trump said he wouldn't attack but He announced sanctions and then They they got they go into the the days before Like leading up to the strike on Sulejmani then they talk about members the national security team and who they are and where they came from their favorite Kalou and that how. This team is more cohesive and full of yes men and then they talk about out How trump supporters loved the move loved the strike on Sola Monte de didn't and then what Republicans started the dams not liking it and what the DEM's thought with Republicans thought of them thinking about not liking it? Then they're then they started talking about the nuclear deal and what the Pentagon thinks and how it's building with five sides. And how former officials were the more hawkish including Bolton And then they go on about Bolton forever and then how Esperer is different than Mattis And then they talk about Lindsey Graham and golfing and and chemistry and Millie and then criticisms about the attack like there's how there's no evidence of an imminent attack and of course the history of Syria and the chemical weapons and a saw. Aw Go on for like ten more paragraph after that going back to the dinosaurs and then in paragraph twenty two paragraph twenty two they make this statement Mr Your trump after the strike told us he was under pressure to deal with General Sulejmani from GOP senators. He views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate it in paragraph twenty two. After all that I mean you I got tired of me talking about what they were talking about. And I didn't even read you the whole article. Yeah I was like. I can't believe I'm still talking. I'm tired of my own voice right now. And then they get to that that he was one of his considerations was impeachment Is it that it was explicitly stated that they were Republican. Republican senators like it was not just an identifying characteristic that the Wall Street Journal added on. They happen to be supporters of impeachment. Or was it like reported in the sense that because has these guys are supportive of impeachment. That is why not supporters of impeachment supporters around. That's what I mean in the impeachment. Yeah and trump specifically said that He told an associate. He told several associates privately that he was under pressure from GOP senators. Yeah very then in the impeachment trial so the had to Kinda that helped him. I don't know if it I doubt it was one hundred percent the decision maker but it might have pushed him over right domestically procam. Yeah just the fact that even and said that I was only asking did he. Did he say that he you know was getting this pressure from Republican senators period and in the Wall Street Journal added that they happen to be but he's straight up said dad in his own words got he said in the. Yeah These these guys support me. Yeah in the impeachment trial gotTa make them happy while And a quick quick impeachment update for you. Pelosi is brought out her queen so to speak play chess in her dear colleagues letter To her caucus she writes dear democratic colleague the League for weeks now Senate Republican leader. Colonel Dick Mitch has been engaged in tactics of delay in presenting transparency disregard for the American people's interest for a fair trial all and dismissal of the facts yesterday showed his true colors his very pale though pages intentions to Stonewall a fair trial even clearer clearer by signing onto a resolution that would dismiss the charges dismissal as a cover up and deprives the American people. The truth leader McConnell's taxed tactics are clear There are clear indication of the fear that he and the president trump had he and the president trump have regarding the facts of the president's violations for which he was impeached. The American people have clearly expressed their view that we should have a fair trial with witnesses and documents with more than seventy percent of the public stating that the president should allow his top aides to testify clearly. McConnell doesn't want to present witnesses and documents to two senators and the American people so they can make an independent judgement about the president's actions Honoring our Constitution. The House has passed two articles of impeachment against the President Abuse of power and obstruction of Congress Congress to hold the president accountable for asking a foreign government to interfere in the twenty twenty elections for his own political personal gain while the house was able to obtain compelling evidence of impeachable people conduct which is enough for removal. The new information new information has emerged which includes on December twentieth new emails. Show that ninety one minutes. After trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Celeski top office management and budget aid asked the Department of Defense to hold off on sending military on December twenty ninth revelations nations emerged about the NBA Director and acting chief-of-staff Mick Mulvaney as role in the delay of the aid the effort by lawyers at the Department of Justice and the White House to justify the delay. I am the alarm that the delay caused within the administration on January second newly unredacted Pentagon emails which we subpoenaed and the president blocked raise serious questions about the trump administration officials concerns by trump administration's officials about the legality of the hold on aid to Ukraine and January. Six just this week. Former the trump national security adviser John Bolton announced he would comply with a subpoena compelling his testimony his lawyers have stated he has new relevant information. I am very proud of the courage and patriotism which isn't exhibited by our House Democratic Caucus support and defend the constitution. I have asked Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler to be prepared to bring to the floor next week. A resolution to appoint managers and transmit articles of impeachment to the Senate. I will be consulting with you at our Tuesday House Democratic Caucus meeting on how we proceed further. That's a big statement statement right there We'll talk to you about how we proceed. Further Impeachment trial. Every senator takes an oath to do impartial justice. According to the Constitution and laws every senator now faces choice choice to be loyal to the president or the constitution. No one is above the law. Not even the president. Thank you for your leadership for the people sincerely. Nancy Damn Pretty Black and white thanks NANCE now Wow that's and she put out publicly typically send it to the colleagues. I don't know she put it out or if it got out and it was made public and no one was like sad No one was like many leaks. That are welcome but this one is i. I don't think she would written that letter. Yeah I mean it's like Kinda just stuff that's already been said. More or less except for the transmitting of the articles. Next week well right very very well to be fair not transmitting the articles preparation reparation Be prepared to bring to the floor. A resolution to appoint managers transmit articles to the impeachment or to the Senate So we find find out more tomorrow than if you're listening on Monday right. Yeah Batista Yeah And it also says Interesting Be Deep prepared to transmit articles of impeachment non the articles of impeachment. Right just articles of impeachment Maybe there is more. I think it gets the PARNASSUS thing right because harnesses lawyers. We've got more stuff. Mommy Mommy Mommy. Mommy know soon enough. Yeah listen to sit down down. Let me tell you a story. So we'll see but I. I like that letter. Thought it was well written and speaking of Ukraine State Department Friday release forty two pages news of Ukraine documents in the American Oversight Freedom of Information Act case. The production includes heavily redacted emails from Senior Department State Department of State officials and a letter sent to Yovany vich a letter to ianovich instructing her not to testify or produce documents to Congress in the impeachment inquiry along along with a response from her lawyer But what's missing from this. Production is just as interesting. What's what's not there is as interesting as what's there? Although I got to say a letter to Ianovich telling her not to not to produce and that was from the State Department had like top officials the State Department yeah that is so obstruction e. Yeah and it's also also. I'm really proud of her for doing it anyway. Even though she was intimidated by the State Department and they wouldn't back her up they already took her off the post at that point too right. Yeah yeah kind of at that point. You're like Just tell them whatever. Yeah they need to know And she did. She went and told the truth because she's Goddamn Patriot. Yup but anyway what's missing from this uh-huh document. Production is just as interesting. What's there namely zero communications? Between top State Department officials including Rudy documents come from the time. Trump was actively holding the Ukraine. We need and the time. Period after trump was busted for drug deal- despite the gaps in these documents. More documents are coming and each time they do. We'll see more evidence of wrongdoing undoing along with what they were holding back which goes directly to the heart of the second article impeachment obstruction of Congress. I mean an email from the State Department telling you not to testify. DOTS blatant fucking obstruction of justice in writing them in writing. Yeah that's just crazy town. Nothing is is crazy anymore. Everything's GonNa come out kind of feel like the trial and the actual impeachment articles are kind of irrelevant at this point. Because we know the Senate's not gonNA. Yeah it's more just like what's going to convince the American people not to vote for trump in November. That's kind of it. Yeah Kinda at that point Unfortunately that means that we have to put up with him until then MHM which two years ago seemed so? But it's so much closer now. Yeah it is so many bad the things have happened. It's like pain now. We also have more avenues at this point in time to feel effective in democracy like getting out the vote efforts canvassing whatever just this stuff like that at least occupies your time in a productive way to. That's nice. The next two years are going to be leading up to the election. And that's going to be super blatant in in our face. which in a way is A distraction from all the stuff that he's still doing which is awful but it's also I think a beacon of hope in that things are going to change. We have an opportunity to change things very shortly. I'll take back the Senate. Yeah and like like I said a year ago the best outcome is that we vote trump out of office. We flipped the Senate. He is as a private citizen. I can't be pardoned and get suzette handed tomb in federal prosecution now. I think he'll resign ten minutes before he's about to be outed outed ousted and Pencil Parnham but state crimes are still a thing. Stay crimes are still a thing. I liked that state crimes. Still thing works out that one. It's like shoop. There should be like an exodus music festival civil in DC when he leaves just have all the biggest stars in the world come together. I have and vogue. Yeah change all their lyrics to just say bye bitch over and over again just to the tune of their hits. Any en vogue song fits really. Yeah God it's going to happen sooner or later it it is going to happen. Yes yeah that's point he he will fucking begun all right and you know what I think. We might outlive him. Perhaps so I have to really temper what happens on that day because I don't WanNa seem too excited about something and he put his head in a jar or something and do forever. That's for me all right. That's right well you mean. We're GONNA outlive him like as humans. Yeah Oh yeah like. He's GonNa die soon well he'll die before right. Of course. Yeah Okay Yes yes yeah. Yeah that's all I mean. That's you know like Leo Barring US get hit by a car whatever. Oh yeah knock. We'll be right back after this break. as we cast some spells of protection these MRI. Jeez will be. AH everybody this. Episode of daily beans is brought to you by native deodorant. Did you know that many conventional deodorants contain aluminum which forms Ormes plug in your sweat glands and keeps you from sweating. It's really bad for you Yanks but native deodorant is made without aluminum. So you can feel better about what you're putting on your body. Native Deodorant is formulated without it. 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Yeah I just there's like ooh dude. Okay here we go. My first story may vary first. Laurie by by Jordan Kunas Ross story is reporting this week. That major red flags. We're just talk about red flags raw raw story. they're reporting that it Shit was real fucked up trump's tax returns and that's how real fucked up yeah. Trump's tax return dot com Yup and New York is now looking into investigating so what happened was billed blasios. That's Newark's mayor of New York City. Aki asked the Manhattan. Da to investigate the differences between what trump Apparently put in his tax filings versus what he had put down in his lone filings. A spokeswoman for the mayor I said the Manhattan. Da is the proper jurisdiction to investigate these claims as the city can only review. What is directly reported to us the? Da has the jurisdiction to take appropriate great steps if they find wrongdoing so A criminal referral basically has been made now to Manhattan. Da and this is for the property the F.. Forget what is it. It's on it's on Wall Street. Forty Four Wall Street is at the address. What's the address? Four Hundred Wall Street his building it. Yeah to whatever whatever put independent Manhattan. Da's forty four forty four hundred. There's fours and there's evil But it's yeah so it's a jurisdiction fiction so the city's Department of Finance can also pursue back taxes if they conclude that trump's company has underpaid But that information is confidential basically though we can just look forward to further investigation by the Manhattan. Da into trump. Yeah so this is all that shit whereas his shit didn't match his other shake xactly. All this shit is fucked up right. Now they're saying now we're GONNA criminally look into it. Yes and it Cy Vance Yeah specifically if we his James Man Yeah. I don't like Cy Vance really well. Hopefully he does good work Yeah hopefully yeah. Yeah but I mean you already. Sorted didn't prosecute the Trump kids for their fraud for their real estate fraud. He dropped out case. I don't know maybe it was legit reason to drop it Or and he. I don't think he's going to have a case for the MAZAAR stuff. I think he had a misdemeanor case but that that statute statute of limitations is passed. Because everything's been being litigated through the Scotus. I think he'll get them as ours documents. But I mean I don't know maybe there's something in there that he can. He can impress a felony fraud but he better make it good right yeah. I was kind of disappointed to see only a mention of paying back taxes because that basically basically it seems like it amounts to a fine and not any sort of an actual like real real legal consequence which is what. I'm always hoping for with him just something that contributes to his demise is ultimately But I don't know I might be wrong. I might be interpreting. They're wrong. Maybe there's actually really big consequences for it. It seems like there should be lying. Hang on your taxes and also on your loan applications it because it's just the same shit. He's doing where he inflates is worth for for loan apps and deflated you know her tax taxes the purpose and the insurance e Yes. Yeah like he's lying about how many He also lied about the quickness of selling certain properties so that it seemed seemed like it was on the upswing. Yeah lender that looks good to lenders also helps you sell more condos. Yes although I don't know why he needs help selling condos because a Russian will buy it inevitably run it through Cypress. Yeah so that's that all right okay in Next door trump's poster bromont gates is getting shunned for challenging his fellow. Republicans ends to vote to limit trump's already when it comes to Iran I had to read. This is the ad I was like. What what what like is it Matthew Gertz do you know who matthew says he's like a reporter he's on twitter people mistaken for gates and he gets all this all these terrible tweets and he's like hey it's it's not matthew I thought it was him. WHO said is this? What yeah me awhile? And I still am like what Gates's legislative director named Devon Murphy or fee he sent out a letter to Republicans on Thursday. That said reclaiming congressional power is the constitutional conservative position so trying to maintain some sort of morals. I guess consistency. I Dunno could have done that earlier but if they're choosing to do that now now I'm all for it. Welcome it. Yeah well I mean it's also like much more winnable battle then stuff like impeachment investigations because that is a pretty cut and dry argument GEIC giving congress power versus the executive branch and more Republicans have already turned their position on this to write three not that many but right was there. Three Republicans Republicans that voted with Democrats on limiting trump's. Yes three and then eight Dems voted against it. Yeah Yeah I still. I don't know exactly But Manch like these are like super That's a senator. But they like super conservative I should say moderate tr like districts that trump won by twenty points from. Yeah it's just so funny to watch. Congress vote against themselves. Yeah like yeah we look at what we came up with. No Yeah it's so. Yeah look here's a thing. We came up with that would give us more power yeah that we are constitutionally deserved. Maybe that maybe relax. I'm busy that weak. Yeah I don't know what that job. Yeah either way. Trump was really pissed. Obviously Gates Eric Yulin milkshake at him. Now that'd be great eventually Eric Ulan Tease head of legislative affairs for the White House. He said the trump administration was disappointed. In the congressman's vote and is hopeful. That as the president's foreign policy continues to unfold he will reconsider his points of view That sounds reconsider any any time. I hear Republicans. Say The word reconsider. Just okay so like a bribe is imminent then or something or there's some kind of financial things your base. Yeah exactly it brings it into the office like what are you doing to ensure by sore to death. Yeah it's not even trump. That's only I pissed him to obviously all the Republicans are coming throw. What are you doing bro? You're breaking her fucking line here. Come on man a picket line of sick a weird judge liver food food F toddlers angry. Yeah that someone went to the other team. Yeah precisely so I don't know how fun revel in Mac aids being not a complete piece of shit just first second just for the sole maybe and then you can go back to your regular program dating back next time you open Okay and finally we. We have the huge story that came out right after we recorded. I think it came out the next day right. Yeah because when we were recording I think the bombs were being dropped on the basis. And we're like Oh wore wore and we are like I was very very terrifying and then yeah I think within twenty four hours a couple hours later later at this is this this happened but we didn't learn about until the next day. I'm pretty sure you're right right. So yeah sorry. What we're vaguely referring to is of course The Ukrainian airliner that got shot down all passengers on board died no survivors and there was a lot of discrepancies over. What may have caused that crash and we learned learned from Iran itself that they are finally taking responsibility for what happened in saying that in what was an accident There they they make it seem essentially they say that it was human error. A bit of You know trigger-happiness that happened when they're on high alert during that time I guess eight-lane came in and made a hard turn and I thought. Oh that's a weird maneuver and right thing that it was a yeah so they shot at it. Everybody died and all of the people in Tehran. Iran are very very upset. Obviously there's a lot of protests that have been happening. Hundreds of people have taken to the streets They're saying that Iran lied and that they're incompetent They're demanding you know a response to this. That's appropriate and there's a lot of tension tension over there right now because they're you know there's a history there of subduing protesters and violent ways. Sometimes there is a a tweet from President Trump's account on Saturday which was in all caps. That said. Do Not Kill your protesters. Here's Thousands of already been killed or imprisoned by you in the world is watching. So that's obviously a dramatic phrasing of that but I mean you can't deny tonight effect that there is a history of violence towards its own people. I was interested to see the Iranian people going back protesting so quickly their own government because I remember I know that there were there was unrest with their government in their policies among the people. But I think most of this had to do with specifically that plane Going down right definitely. I have just on the topic also like Iranians criticizing their own government and the the duality of that and and also not feeding into Super Western sort of you know this kind of like more xenophobic motivation for criticizing them. I haven't seen a lot of really good posts posts from folks of Iranian descent. That's like you can you can. Not You can condemn the actions of the Iranian government's while also not buying into this this sort of incredible amount of Slama Phobia and I think that that's an important thing to realize just a nuance of the history that does exist there. It is true that citizens have had had historically a very difficult time with their own government. There it's also true that the US has made that a lot worse in a lot of ways and they've had diplomatic tensions that are very real and very present for a really long time so Either way complex and layered. Yes John exactly really. Yeah exactly exactly and then you know you bring the fact that trump is compromised by UAE in Saudi Arabia. And there's issues there I mean the the Middle East has never been simple rate. Who Knew it could be so difficult But for real it's there's so many Different competing sides allies enemies and adversaries. And and it's so complex yeah But you know now if you if you haven't read any of Seth Abramson books it's important now. Trump isn't just a Russian asset he's a he's a Saudi asset. He's an asset is an asset of Israel. He's end you know. He's he's now answering. I mean he's always answered to Putin. But I mean when you think about how the Saudi is play into this and how when people think and how and how after this whole strike Iran was threatening If we retaliated against their retaliation for our retaliation then they were going to go after Israel and Dubai and right and that is probably one of the main reasons for the stand-down Aside from the fact that there shouldn't have been an escalation in the first place because we shouldn't have I don't think gone after all the money. But yeah add this whole plane into the mix. Yeah it's just very brutal it's incredibly. Yeah it's incredibly emotionally brutal any way you slice it This was a very emotional appeal. The commander of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. He said that he wished that he was on a plane. So he wouldn't have felt so ashamed in front of his nation. Really Yeah So. There's just a lot of genuine remorse. Yeah and yeah it's just really tragic. I mean this is like these are the effects of war is what happens. Yep accidents have like think of even just like the notion of friendly fire and civilian casualties on its own. That's something that always accompanies wartime. And even though we're not you know officially in war with them right now I would say. Murdering Sulejmani is an active war as definitely as far as they're concerned so. This is not surprising that something tragic has happened so quickly. It's just really sad it is we really is my face the microphone. Yes so we'll also get make status Edison's you It makes sense that they would be on very high alert and be scared about what was going to happen and skittish right. It was a it was A. Don't fly over a Iran and Iraq moment It's like don't Everyone Land Your plane. Don't take off why they took off while this was happening. Yeah I don't know I haven't heard details about that either. That's the thing. I can't understand. Why Tehran Iran was allowing planes to take off right in that in that region that they're monitoring for foreign aircraft and stuff? Yeah Yeah Yeah yes. It's really scary. It may be probably honestly just a breakdown of communication right yes employees. Yeah but I think that I'm owning up to. It is like the best thing that they could do you for their people right now. Obviously yeah well. Even I mean they're still mad but yeah they definitely up and they apologized i. I don't know what else to like. What else do you do right? I mean yeah I guess they could have just kept denying it but yeah I imagine as a civilian there and this is completely imaginary because I'm white is fucking zero actual ties On to any folks that are actually truly affected by all this but it's the US has like as we've talked about previously has really really really fucked over Iran in in a lot of other countries in that region obviously Unforgivable ways but then on the other side I've I've also heard you know there's a lot of discontent with the ways that the the folks that kind of came in like rose to power when the opportunity energy existed there's a lot of flaws with how they handled their powers well so they have frustrations with this incredibly powerful. US government that's constantly fucking with them and their own government. airmont does not doing a great job at times a lot. A lot of times taking care of them. Yeah I mean that they became an Islamic republic the US. I shares blamed for that right but what that Islamic republic does in and of itself Isn't all our fault right. You know what I mean. I think that's kind of what you're that's exactly what I'm saying you can't you just blame the US even though you could definitely make the argument. That is what has like kicked off and sustain these kinds of tensions. But still all I know that these you can't take responsibility for everything that they do within that Islamic Republic government right so even though they're government right now is kind of using language. That's like Oh this wouldn't have happened if the US Ascoli while logically that is true. It's also like it also wouldn't have happened if humans devolve like. Yeah the main niche would have happened if we got taken by a meteor rate A hundred thousand years ago either. Yes exactly I do think though that the main existential truth is they wouldn't be embroiled in this conflict. If Western countries were constantly trying to capitalize off of other resources. Yeah just overtime. All the time and colonization tation. Yeah yeah that's going to bring on the resources Yep even reasonable stability that they just continue. We just continue to exploit so. Yeah that is is true and that we installed the Shah it was specifically us and Britain that installed the Shah they had the little regime change there. Yup So high five Winston Cut. Yeah and just the history of violence that those civilians have had to endure over time it's just unimaginable and general. I you know I can't even imagine now. I cannot even imagine that. We're so fucking privilege and lucky to be over here in our like prissy ass safe country we always feel like oh they want to attack here you know we have such an entitlement there. I mean of course there was nine eleven but the reason that was so fucking devastating because we have such a sense of constant security. Here we don't have to worry about a entire passenger jet accidentally getting shot out of this in killing everyone. That's fucking tragic. Yeah Yeah it's a lot to deal with uh-huh right Thank you for those uplifting. Feel your age I see you meet you and your range. Yeah I'm a hundred bucks also sucks not understand it fully and feel like totally failed by the history of our own school system that so much when I'm trying to delve Elvin to politics in the Middle East in that whole region. I'm everything seems so new to me and I feel so just uneducated as ignorant about about a like. Oh well because then you've got people like what did you do this. And that they're not context nine hundred reasons and every single action that any president has taken except this one has a hundred people behind it with one hundred considerations and all you know he he just goes out and just does shit but you know careful. Presidents trying to act properly in the region to maintain some semblance of stability Um have to make so many considerations and probably so many concessions that they wouldn't normally make human being exactly and it sucks but it is it that is how ah how the Middle East is now. And it's not because it's a bad place or good place is just a very complicated place. It's complicated totally. Yeah and I honestly don't understand. Dan like the first half of it. Yeah yeah the history. Probably you know somewhat similar history that you learn in a public school in Canada or the. US is like pretty white. You know it's doesn't it doesn't prepare you. Oh yeah why. Why would they teach us? When they're teaching us about like World War Two in that era why would they tell us about something like Oh yeah and the in the? US government over through a democratic election in various other countries. You know it's like you can't even especially with our all we bring democracy to the world exact when we brought the opposite using our CIA in a covert coup d'etat. Who by the way you're supposed to trust law enforcement and they're the good guys all the time and below enforcement right exactly which is like I mean? Obviously there's a lot of law enforcement enforcement that do incredible things for the country but yeah you literally can't teach us everything that has happened because especially when you're young in school because your brain rankin even computer otherwise would not play soccer. See Yeah exactly. He's trying to learn fucking math but then you grow up. It's like what Y'all why did these people hate us or something or you're like what are you just do this Do you clearly don't have an understanding what's happening over there. Yeah so thank you for that reporting. 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This question is for the voters and the Constitution makes it very clear. This ruling was certainly appealed. This ruling will allow recall supporters to continue collecting collecting signatures to try to force a special election. You need about seventy two thousand Registered voters to sign the petition. Because you have to have twenty five percent of the number of people who voted in the last general the election and they have about fifty thousand and now they've this kind of gives them more time but the I'm sure the appeal there will be an appeal and it will likely include emotion to halt signature gathering. But this judge says he won't approve it. Although the Supreme Court could if Dunlavey is recalled he would be replaced with Republican. Lieutenant Governor Kevin Meyer Right. Recall package to the people and let's take a look at Ruby worms calendar. She always puts out the best calendars starting on the thirteenth. We have the trial beginning for the Panama papers in the Southern District of New York and in the Eastern District of Virginia. We have the trial beginning for George. Nader I don't papers. Wow Twenty fifteen wasn't it. y'All Jesus they're just starting now. That's how the slow the justice system is justice on the fourteenth USAA USA versus Concord Management. So there's a scheduling conference for that and on the fifteenth Former state GOP Chairman Robin Hayes. Sentencing is tentatively scheduled for the fifteen. What did he do again? Manono Robin Hayes. Google while I'm while ago forward sixteenth Jew free versus Maxwell Conference at ten. Am and then next week is my birthday. And on the twenty first I'm going to be traveling going beyond Melissa Melendez. PODCAST and Michael Abernathy Trial Trial begins his Nike extortion trial. She's on the Twenty Second Michael Flynn supplemental memo do by noon. 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