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Welcome to. It's all political. The San Francisco Chronicle's political podcast. I'm Joe gear fully the chronicle senior political writer and today in the podcast. We're gonna make a little introduction on I want you to meet my new colleague tall copen. She is going to be the chronicles new Washington DC correspondent. And she says a lot of good experience. She worked at politico and CNN and she's got a good read on Washington. You'll hear about her predictions for not only the next few weeks in Washington, but next year and she uses the term ethically dysfunctional, wait to see what he's talking about next on. It's all political. Hey, guys, Joe here if you like political podcasts, you might like to check out opinion central. That's the one crafted by my buddy, John D S is the editorial page editor of the San Francisco Chronicle he and all his pals and the ivory tower here at the chronicle talk to the big newsmakers of the day. They talk about the big issues of the day, and it's really smart and educational and it's actually fun for being smart. An educational check it out opinion central on apple podcast or wherever you obtain your podcasts. Talk open. Welcome to it's all political and welcome to the chronicle. There is probably no one happier to see here than me. Thank you. It's really great to be here in the the whole newsroom as well. As you has been very welcoming. Excellent. All right. So let's hear a little bit about your background where you're where you're from or a mid westerner. Correct. That's cracks for the most part. I I did do four years of my life on the west coast Seattle, but mostly mid westerner. Were you doing there were you in Seattle for following my dad's job around? Okay. When I was a kid, but. Yeah. So I grew mostly in the midwest. I started my career in Chicago actually journalism town it is. And I went to school out there and demand jobs there, and then started actually in local, but in local TV doing sort of their digital type stuff at the time. And then, you know, political journalism was sort of always my love. And in Chicago, local news is political news a lot of the time. But I little rod Blagojevich covered two of his trials because very anti-climactic fashion from a journalist perspective. Anyway, the first jury was a Hungary. So we had to do the whole thing again. But it was interesting. It was actually an interesting learning experience to see prosecutors try their case twice. I was there for the first Rahm Emanuel election when mayor Daley step down, the second, mayor Daley. But then I got a job out in DC at politico worked at politico doing various. Things both very generalist and also very specific covering cybersecurity policy really in depth for a little while before heading over to CNN where I've been most recently for the past three years again also doing starting there as a generalist covering the campaign sort of bopping around from you know, covering the delegate madness leading into the RNC. And then I was one of the few reporters covering the Trump transition before the election become to give you that assignment. You thought it was like a throwaway. Well, it so did most people. All of us. Maybe even some of the transition, and you know, it's sort of like, oh, well, you know, that's gold. You were there on the ground floor. You were there before all the campaign reporters caught up to it which would have been true if they hadn't basically thrown out the entire transition that had been prepped very professionally arguably by Chris Christie, right after the election and started over but since inauguration, I've been covering immigration policy fulltime and in-depth until I last month when I said goodbye and came out here. Excellent. We're so glad to have you. And we had our first experience together with Nancy Pelosi here. She was at the chronicle editorial board. These are always very entertaining visits. She can be you never know where she's coming from. I think she spent the last one ripping on me a good portion of that. Which is always fun. And I gotta say I don't know if we talked about this yesterday. But she was in an unusually good mood you she comes in. And and she's shameless cheerleading for over. We're gonna win this. We're gonna win. That's never. They never went anything. But this time there's looks like the Democrats all all predictions are twenty five to forty seats. And she was in a beat mood. Oh, yes. She was really was really energetic. She was sort of in amused mood was making jokes. It's kind of funny, you know, being Washington reporter, you always see lawmakers for the I shouldn't say always. Because if you're a good journalist, you should be taking trips to see them out in the real world, so to speak, but you most often see lawmakers in Washington in there, you know, that element of their life in the marble halls of the capitol at their press conferences. And so it was interesting to see her on her home turf. And in that environment, and she was a little bit more opened. Up, and as you seem looser to you, the press conferences and just sort of that home, which makes Mitch makes perfect sense. But yes, you know, she she was not only upbeat on Democrats chances heading midterms upbeat on her own future seemed yes, very definitive about that. She says I will be the speaker if Democrats take the house, which was definitely more definitive than I've seen definitive and very dismissive of the question as well. She very much did not want to be asked about, you know, leadership Macintoshes, and that type of thing, which you know, you sort of expect from her, but she, but in being dismissive, she was very definitive and said, you know, I fully expect to be the speed. And as we try to do whenever we get access to Pelosi when she comes through town, or when we interview her we try to get her to make news because you know, she's so, you know, she's stapled to the talking points and she made some news yesterday to she did make some news. It was interesting watching her try to balance the dual. This election is not about Trump. But also this election is about Trump kind of game she's playing, but you know, we all thought the most newsy thing she said was almost throwaway. Oh, yeah. Getting his tax returns will be the first thing we do. That's that's easy. You know, she she should meet some really interesting comments about what she called the pound of flesh crowd. You know, this sort of notion that Democrats are really angry at what they perceived as obstructionism spearheaded by Mitch McConnell under Obama really just making sure that nothing got done and she referred to the crowd that would like to see the Democrats give is good as they feel. They got as the pound flesh crowded. She was very dismissive of that notion and said, no, no, we're gonna look for bipartisanship. And when one of the Royal board followed up and says, oh that does that mean, you're not going to do things like go after his tax return? She was like, oh, no. We will definitely be doing going after. So this is ground zero of the pound of flesh crowd the bay area. These. The the the much more the the the left flank of them chronic parties tag resistance, hashtag resistance. We are. We are in the cradle of it right here. How do you see this shaping up in? It's very likely that whoever the next beaker is will be a Californian either Pelosi or Kevin McCarthy, though, he's probably a little bit more in down. But we'll get to that in a second. How do you? How do you see the this breaking down for Pelosi? You do think that cheese, which he says, she will be speaker. Do you think she will be? I think she's probably right. Pelosi is a few things and one of them is a masterful vote counter master legislators. Yes. Yes. She does like to say that she is she, you know. There's a lot of sentiment that women should be very humble, she's she's not overly modest. She's pretty. She's made a point of saying that women need to be overly conference. You said. Wrong. I mean, she has a lot to show up. So you know, when she she makes a prediction, they tend to come true. Now, you know, part of why I think that's still probably a safe bet is that even though there are plenty of detractors. There still aren't enough that there's someone else who could clearly mount challenge to her and many of the sort of so called moderates on the campaign trail who are sort of you know, threading this needle saying, they don't really back her for speaker. They always come around and say, but I'll support whoever the Democrats sport because the democrat caucus has this rule that whoever gets the most votes within the democratic conference when it goes to the floor all the Democrats will vote for them. So there was a little bit of a half hearted effort to try to change that rule right before they all left town that didn't go anywhere. So that's still the rule. So because of that she still the odds on favourite, barring some sort of re. I don't wanna say ridiculous, but farfetched scenario Tim Ryan's of the world. They're not gonna have. None of them. Have. You know, a clear are clear pathway. It's part of why leadership has been so locked down for so many years for the Democrats. It's very hard for anyone to break into that. Now, you ask how it's going to go. There are a lot of people drawing comparisons to twenty ten tea party wave and they're very apt comparisons. We're seeing a lot of similarities in terms of grassroots groundswell. The progressive left really pushing the it's the Bernie Sanders wing. So to speak has not swept by any means. It's a mixed. It's a mixed bag. You do see democratic candidates being very aware of their left. Flank in a way that Republicans have had to be very aware of their right flank for some time now, so we will see Democrats tend to be a little more conciliatory. As a conference, then say the freedom caucus on the very far right group has been on the Republican side. But we'll see what happens when you know, if Democrats take the house, come January, you have this sort of cobbled together majority where you have this sort of component of the Democratic Party that came to office by pledging to be a moderate represent Trump counties fairly, and then this other flank that came to office promising to, you know, pull all their punches and bring hell to the capital. Always Andrew Cosio Cortez's of the world. So we're gonna see how presumably Pelosi is going to have to navigate the rabble-rousers, and the maybe some difficult votes that some of those parties are going to have to take and how about Kevin McCarthy congressman congressman from Bakersfield. He is currently the number two guy in the house number one guy. Paul Ryan is on his way out going going somewhere going to take care of his family. What do you think about him? Does he have as clear cut? A you know, if the Republicans were to hold onto power does he have a clear cut path to maintaining his or gaining the speakership patients. I don't think anyone would call it clear cut at this point. You know, we've been through this once before let's remember when John bainer very surprisingly announced he was leaving. Kevin McCarthy was then again, the number two and supposedly the favorite, and I remember living basically in the capital for about a month as we all counted, the numbers and very dramatically at the last minute. It was clear he did not have the votes, and he was not going to get the votes and the conservatives were not gonna come around to him, and that's sort of when Paul Ryan got everyone to drop to their knees and beg him to come in as the consensus candidate. So, you know, in some things have changed. Kevin McCarthy has you know, very smart leave. I don't wanna see smartly in that it was sort of conniving, but he has forged some very strong ties with. Trump himself and has worked. Diligently to sort of try to get some of those conservatives to come around him, but they're still very deeply skeptical of him. And you know, they've always been a little bit skeptical of Paul Ryan. And so being part of everything that Paul Ryan has done because he's in leadership sort of attach himself to any deals that Ryan has cut and Steve Scalise. Who is the Louisiana congressman who's the number three? The whip of also sympathy sympathy for the guy he's shot to the baseball flashing his recovery has been tremendous on a human level, you he he's not exactly staging a coup. But he's getting all his ducks and rose waiting in. That McCarthyism owner ball and isn't going to be able to close the deal. He is there and prepared. And so, you know, it's it's put McCarthy and a bit of a difficult situation because he has to navigate won the practicalities of trying to actually pass legislation when you have a group of Republicans who simply won't vote for certain things, but you know, scully's is genuinely a little bit more conservative than McCarthy and has staked that position on some of the things they've dealt with this year, including during the debacle that was the ill-fated immigration debate in the house, but Scalise was taking a more conservative line on what Republicans should pursue during that process. Then McCarthy was and so you're seeing McCarthy have to sort of balance his natural inclinations, which coming from California, maybe a little bit different than the, you know, ruby red south and also the realities of having to get conservatives vote in. In order to become the next speaker majority leader or excuse me, minority leader. So I don't I don't really know yet. How all gonna shake out and California's senators will also be in a. Kind of divergent roles here. We'll have one of them. We know it will be Kumba Harris's likely running for president. So she'll be on a different track. And we, you know, if it's the poll say right now, the Dianne Feinstein should be returned off as we never know. There's a Senate debate next week. But finds definitely, you know, the definitely wounded by the recent cavenaugh hearings among some folks. So what what are you looking for from the from those two? Yeah. I mean, if it was almost in a lose lose with the cabinet hearings. I mean Republicans made her there the syphilis enemy in the whole but presents name checking her regularly. She is the new locker up can't at his rally. We saw this week. But she for before that she had already angered quite a significant swath of Democrats for the way, she handled that letter from Christine Blasi Ford, which. Certainly the Christine Bazi for herself ask for that letter to remain confidential. But you know, finding did not refer to the FBI until it became public. What was happening with it? So she I don't know that she really found a constituency that liked her handling about whole thing. You know, the judiciary committee that she is. Now, the democrat, you know, the top ranking democrat, so either Republicans maintain the Senate, which there's pretty good money on she sort of maintains that post, but in the in the chance that it's an unbelievable wave or NAMI election and Democrats retake the Senate, she would be poised to lead that committee Feinstein still is sort of a naturally inclined moderate, I mean, she really has been for years, very, comfortable dealmaker. She, you know, I remember watching her on cybersecurity legislation when she was, you know, the top democrat on the intelligence committee. I mean, she really is the type of old. Old school find ways to pass legislation type Senator much like, you know, sort of the McCain's the world's she she found those bridges. She does not have that natural understanding of what the progressive left is looking for in those things she's very much thinking, you know, what the practical medium that we can get done, and she's she's not a name caller. She's perfect. She always comes out. I don't I'm not comfortable calling people, you know, attacking people. I mean, she'll she'll scold us everybody in this town has been on the business end of Di PHI call. But she's like she's not publicly going to, you know, take out. Oh, she likes to get along with her with our colleagues on both sides of the Al, you know, I wouldn't say that Harris is the opposite of that. I mean, she she knows how to turn on the firebrand when she wants to rally crowd, but she's not going around making tons of enemies in the halls at the Senate. She's she's she's picking her moments. But certainly if you're talking about instinct Harris has the instincts. For the progressive left, and what they are demanding right now, and she is keeping her finger on that pulse. And you talk about looking ahead to twenty twenty you know, on the one hand the model for a Senator very quickly turning around and becoming president has been made. And you know, in many ways, this sort of safest thing to do is not have your name on anything because you know, then you can't you can't really been pinned down a villain of anyone. But you still have to make a name for yourself as credible. So I imagine that we'll see from her her trying to toe that line. She won't be quite a freshman anymore. She'll you know, it'll be her first term, but they'll be a new crop of younger senators coming into office. She'll have had a few years to get her feet under her. So what she does in the next four years will really be whatever the foundation might become of her rise. If she wants to take that was the next six months, really. Yes. When do you think the twenty twenty campaign will begin? Six seven minutes each clue. Yeah. Basically, I mean, you know, and and you talk about the house flipping that doesn't make anything in Washington easier. Exactly. What was what's the? Let's take a look at the short term in the long term. If the house does flip what happens in the lame duck. And then what happens next year, I think in both cases it's going to be ethically dysfunctional. So more ethically than it is. Oh, yeah. We're we're just getting started. I think even though it's been epic struggle. I mean, look the lame duck on the one hand, you know, eight gives Democrats a lot of leverage, but it also lights a fire under Republicans to try to get what ever they can done in the interim and with Paul Ryan outgoing. It's a big question when he actually relinquishes power. So you know, there's one school of thought that he might try to clear the decks with some things and leave his successor's with some of the hardest fights not hanging over their heads. But what would well the biggest thing we expect in the lame. Duck is going to be the last little bit of government funding. And that's it runs out December seventh there was there. So you know, credit where credit is due for the first time in longer than most of us can remember in recent memory, congress actually passed real appropriate. Nations bills. This fall they did about nine of them. So, you know. You know, seventy five percent of the government actually has real funding. But that last package of bills the last three all that was was kicked down till December seventh. No one wanted that fight before the midterms. They all pushed off in. That's the fight where Trump wants his entire wall. Whatever that is. Because his administration hasn't even proposed a plan for an entire wall, which his own DHS secretaries. Homeland security secretaries have said very clearly there is no plan to do a wall across the border. So those prototypes look nice on. But those this twenty five billion dollars eighty it's imaginary. I mean, there's no plan to use that money. So it's really just a showdown over giving Trump something to to claim his victory, which is, you know, arguably, the one thing Democrats do not want to and what they will be largely powerless to stop that. Well, or Wilbert the the reason that the reason that the appropriations bills have always been bipartisan is because there are just enough Republicans who won't vote for any big price tags that it forces Republicans to have to get some votes from across the aisle, and you know, the there's other stuff so the way that the lawmakers sort of orchestrated this little, you know, four part appropriations process, did it is they paired things that were sort of on par controversial with each other. But they. We did it in such a way that they married things that both sides have some skin in the game with each Bill. So they paired, you know, some easy ones with a little tough one. And the first one was really easy, and they get a little bit harder all the way. But there's even though, you know, the big talker in this package is the department of homeland security appropriations there still other stuff in there that everyone needs to see get done just enough that you know, it can't just become a fight over the border wall. So you know, if they don't pass something. Yes, there will be some things that don't shut down because they've already funded them. But they're still just enough that everyone has an interest in getting missed you don't see shutdown happening. I don't I I don't think that's what I said. But we'll see I mean, you know, at the end of the day last December was also pretty crazy. And you know, there was talk on my gosh. Are we going to be here all of Christmas week, and I'll tell you lawmakers love to go home for Christmas trip going to Hawaii. So it's all on you, bud. We all your the new cover baby. Last december. I was definitely reporting. You know, I was like asking my sources like is there going to be shut down? I'm not actually asking this to write anything about it. I just want to tell my family whether I'll be there. But, you know, the something changes come low December twenty third in Washington where everyone just wants to get out of town and shelf whatever, but from December seventh to December twenty third we may see, you know, everything and anything under the sun so Pelosi when she was here yesterday was talking about, you know, oh, there's some there's some areas. Are we could agree? We could agree at an infrastructure Bill. That's we've never really seen anything other than you know, what's six how many billion trillion trillion. That's right trillion trillion. But we've seen the specifics of that. She said that there are maybe on dreamer. So it could be some cooperation. Yes. Gun gun violence prevention violence, prevention twenty nine thousand. Eighteen as we start gear up into a presidential campaign freely. Is she she smoke up. Our that was nice. That's nice to think about look. Pelosi was making the argument that a Democratic Party under her leadership will not be looking to throw sand in the gears. They will be looking to get things done for the American people. That's her big pitch. You know, she came in with with literature on their better deal for the American people snuff for the people, whatever the, you know. So that's that's the talking point that they are they're going to be focused on getting things done. They're not going to be focused on denying Trump any victories. Whether that's true. Is debatable? And you know, Trump has not actually shown himself to be dealmaker. Everyone still has this notion that they had you know, right after the twenty sixteen election. Trump was huge question. Mark. Right. It was there were enough people in America who really believe that at the end of the day. He had no deep abiding ties, which is true. He has no deep abiding ties to the Republican party, and the Republican orthodoxy and you saw him during the campaign trail, not even knowing how to answer certain questions because he he almost gave answers that he thought sounded like the you. Remember, the punishing women who got up worshi- thing. You know, it's very much clear that he didn't know how to answer that question because he doesn't have that long history of doing that. But, but I think that that notion should be pretty disabused by now the last year has shown us that even when there is a bipartisan deal at hand. An all Trump needs to do is. He was Ag almost everything he's he's transactional. But transactional like sort of political way, not a policy way. It's it's then he can't I one of the interesting things about Trump, not being a politician. He doesn't understand that. Once you occupy office you start having to piss people off and some of the people that are going to be angry. Are you are the ones you thought were your best friends because if you want to get things done you're gonna have to leave your flanks behind some of the time. And so when you when you start to see the Ann Coulter's, Laura grams criticizing Trump, you know, Obama everyone forgets but Obama was called the deport or in chief by Luis Gutierrez zone zone. Low. See was a naphtha to a lot of those pro immigration rabble-rousers that have now been brought into the fold in the Democratic Party. But part of being a leader means you're going to turn your back on this people. Sometimes Trump doesn't have that understanding. That that. So when when the base starts to turn on him. He just comes right back freaks out every time. He comes any comes home. Okay. So what are some things you're going to be that you'd like to work on? And that you hoped to work on the next the next year. What are your what are your passions? What are you mentioned that you've written about cybersecurity on immigration immigration passion? Just just try to take that beat away from me. I've I, you know, I I can't remember ever another time in my career covering politics covering something that felt so real and meaningful to people worldwide. What are you can with a lot of politics and policy debates are very east Tarik? And at the end of the day. There aren't a lot of lives at stake. I mean healthcare might be an exception. Right. There's there's a very real. And that's part of why you see such tremendous response whenever I want tries to do anything with healthcare because there's very real consequences immigration. That's also true. I mean, there's there's very real people when you talk about seven to eight hundred thousand doc recipients over the course of its existence every single one of those people is a real human being when you talk about families have rations the summer, you know, twenty five hundred kids were separated from their parents. When all the said done before, you know, the court stepped in and said and Trump reversed course, which is actually the one time that he has bowed to public pressure, and reverse course on something and bucked his base. But. You know, twenty five hundred a few hundred of them were under the age of five. I mean, every single one of those children is a child, you know, so. It's it's one of the few times in my career wife felt like the political debate was almost the side show and the human aspects of it were more point and keep in mind that goes both ways there there are people in this country who fundamentally believe that their livelihoods are jeopardized by you know. Levels of immigration. So you know, and all of that is debatable. But you can't erase the humanity from the discussion. So I found that to be found the summer to be very purposeful in exposing what was going on with families operations what's going on with those children. We couldn't we couldn't stop the sunshine for one second. That's our role as journalists to you know, expose what's happening government. Let the American people know we are their window into what happens in Washington and and doing that job this summer felt very important. But I do also I have covered cyber security in tack. And it actually is extremely interesting. The divide between the way Silicon Valley thinks of those issues and the way that, you know, Washington startups of which there are an incredible amount. You know, former military and intelligence folks, starting their own competitive startups in Washington, they think about the issue so differently. You know, the two coasts, and and you know, obviously, environmental issues water issues housing homelessness. Those are so important for the bay area. So all of the above that. And then only then do you get to the fascinating delegation that. Major players here. Some def definitely for some characters. It'll be it'll be fun. I think my challenge next year will be we'll be biting off when I can chew not. Not struggling to with stories again so pumped that you're here looking forward to working with you. And you know, we will be talking on the podcast, but the phone it'd be a worse connection. All right. Thanks. Thank you. I'd like to thank you all for listening, and I'd like to thank tall for coming on. We she'll be on many more times than the months and hopefully years to come at like to thank for them to be is the chronicles managing editor for digital for producing this podcast. Remember, whether in San Francisco or in Washington, DC, it's all.
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NPR podcasts are now available on every major platform checkout all our shows at NPR dot org slash podcasts. That's NPR dot org slash podcasts. Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Jack Speer in northern California where at least forty eight people have died in. What is now the state's deadliest fire ever the task of searching for more victims continues NPR's Kirk siegler is in the largely destroyed town of paradise California for standing on a street across from a best western hotel. That was spared, although you can see pretty much rebel all around it. And I'm at a staging area for search and rescue teams. I'm looking at group of men and women now getting into Thai Vic suits, a bunch of people jumping into pickups to head out from here, and scour the neighborhoods, and what's left of them? It's it's not really a search and rescue effort. I think it's safe to say at this point. They're just still looking for unaccounted people and human remains. It's a pretty difficult situation with so much smoke. It's hard to see and it's for sure tough and grim out here as well. President Trump today praised firefighters have been battling the flames. In northern and southern California. At least two people died in fires near Los Angeles. Or report released today puts the cost US of wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan at nearly five trillion dollars with an additional two trillion dollars in future spending NPR's, David welna explains. The study also says nearly five hundred thousand people have died in that fighting half of them civilians in its latest annual costs of war report Brown university's Watson institute for international and public affairs warns that high level of spending on wars since the nine eleven attacks may be disproportionate to the threats the US faces the report's author Nita Crawford says official information about these wars that was once available increasingly is being kept secret. I don't think that's necessarily a deliberate effort and obvious Gatien. But what happens is we don't keep track of how much wars and their associated expenses will in the long run cost us Crawford says there's neither a strategy for ending these. Wars are a plan to pay for them. David welna, NPR news, Washington. House majority leader Kevin McCarthy has been re elected to head the Republican caucus next year, though, the Trump ally will face a starkly different landscape with Democrats taking control of the chamber for at least the next two years McCarthy who was endorsed by outgoing speaker Paul Ryan says he wants to unite the body though, he's prepared for Democrats to have a different idea their gender is simply investigations impeachment and not focused on the hardworking American public. We'll be there defend the American public McCarthy fended off a challenge from conservative. Jim Jordan of Ohio to win. The minority leader post nationwide is cutting jobs. The insurance advanced services firm announcing today will eliminate about eleven hundred positions around the country company says it will cut eighty jobs into Moines in three hundred fifty jobs in Columbus job cuts coming into companies technology marketing property and casualty operations the Dow was down two hundred and five points today. This is NPR. But as Prime Minister Theresa may says a draft agreement of Britain's planned exit from the EU takes us significantly closer to delivering what the British people voted for the tentative agreement in the country's divorced known as Brexit was announced this week. And despite some reservations as won the backing of her cabinet may says, it means Britain takes back control of its laws and borders while coke protecting job security and integrity. Some politicians were concerned. The exit will continue to Tiber into the EU after the divorce takes place. Italy's government is setting the stage for a showdown with the European Union by refusing to bring it's two thousand nineteen budget in line with deficit reducing requirements bear Soviet petrole reports. Euro-zone finance ministers, worry, Italy could trigger a debt crisis. The government formed by the far right league. And populist. Five star movement has sent back to Brussels its previous draft budget unrevised EU officials had criticized its high growth estimates and excessive deficit Italy's public debt is a what? Being one hundred thirty one percent of GDP second highest in the EU after Greece. But the governing parties promised generous welfare spending as well as tax cuts and league leader Matteo Salvini said, we're not budging a millimeter Italy's defiance could lead to disciplinary steps by the e u against Rome including hefty fines, Sylvia. Poggioli NPR news row. Colonel futures prices diverged from stocks today oil rebounding after yesterday's major price plunge. Crude oil futures prices up almost one percent and the session at fifty six twenty five a barrel in New York. I'm Jack sphere NPR news in Washington.
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