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Will the Premier League finish their season?

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47:15 min | 3 months ago

Will the Premier League finish their season?

"Welcome in today's edition of ESPN AFC here on ESPN Wednesday. I'M GONNA go for is the day to day later on in the show. Charlie's stood on with me with some exciting news. Plus an exclusive interview where he sat down with Gareth. Bale and spoke about that banner. Be Sure to stay tuned for that. Also a shocker. Hislop taking us down memory language. You believe it is twenty four years. The day in which Kevin Keegan made that famous rant against rallies Ferguson will getting his recollections of that Craig Burley with us as well plus Julianne Laurent and Gab. Markazi. We start by all these different stories. That going on in the moment about the return of bull in Europe will stop in Spain. This is what the president Spanish FAA come out. Say I'll do not understand why there would be more danger in playing football behind closed doors with all precautionary measures than working on an assembly line on a fishing boat on the high seas etc. In my opinion Francis decision is hasty other countries are already training. That's the example to follow important. Economic SECTORS CANNOT RESTART. They could end up disappearing. That could happen to professional football. Meanwhile chief don't advocate Michelle. My proposal is if it is possible. Avoid playing competitive football in the coming weeks tried to be prepared for the start of good competition next season. Believe me. I regretted profoundly. Because I'm a football man. I'm a little bit afraid. That's a have a complete solution. We will have to wait until we have a vaccination program. Meanwhile this is what the chairman of UEFA Committee Tim. I have to say under these conditions. I mean forest of local legislation. It is definitely possible to plan. The restock competition suspended during the two thousand nine hundred eighty two thousand twenty season in England optimism. Of course last week that seeing sort of clean somewhat diluted by the fact that some players on Canaan to return to get to the bottom of this I wanNA welcoming Gabon coffee and Julia around and I know it's almost an impossible question to answer and it's something that I was very optimistic. I've lost you days that yes. Things can get back to normal but France canceling their season till September. Surely a hammer blow for those expecting football to return sooner rather than later Gab. What do you make of all of this first things first? All those guys you mentioned. Everybody is talking from their own perspective. Michelle Judge Look the dudas Belgian. He is has these the medical community. But it's not like he's Gone. He's he's not he's not an epidemiologist and got studied this whole thing. He's just kind of giving his opinion. Remember fee. I don't really have skin in the game in terms of of restarting this summer restarting in September. Eighth on the other hand. Will they represent the big clubs? Obviously they'd like to finish their finished. The Champions League and they want their stakeholders the clubs and the League's to be able to finish their leagues so obviously the guy comes out and he says well well. The conditions are there. It would be great if we could restart well. Yeah sure captain obvious. If the government says you can play and it's safe to play then people will play. I don't even know where to begin with this guy. Making a comparison between playing football which is a physical sport at a team sport. Where you've got people in closed quarters was working on an assembly line or or going out fishing on the high seas. I mean it's it's it's an absurdity right. The reality here is that governments are going to decide this. They're the ones who are going to give the green light. The situation is different in different countries. There's different sensibilities in different countries. There's different access to medical care. In different countries. Different access to testing. All these situations are different dribble. They're going to play again. I think the biggest bellwethers GONNA come on Thursday. That's when we expect the German government to express an opinion on the Bundesliga plan. The Buddhists I've been far far and away ahead of everybody else. They want to start. Potentially as early as May ninth or May Sixteenth and they'll get hopefully should get the thumbs up or the thumbs down from the government ended up. It's the government that's going to have the last word in each of these countries. If they can do it in Germany then I think other countries have a shot the thing that strikes me chills is how different the approach can be considering France and Spain of have similar curfews regarding covert in the way in which developed how confronts being a situation where I would like. Nothing's going to happen till September. Tell US coming out and saying look. We want to get back as soon as possible. It's interesting because obviously the French prime minister announcing yesterday on choose there was a big shot. We didn't really see it coming until until Tuesday morning. When we were brief thought he was going to announce it. They just didn't think that it was safe enough for the players to go back playing even behind closed doors for the people around them. The Staff Club in stay gems. Everybody around us three hundred three hundred and fifty people who will have to be in the stadiums even behind closed doors. They was not safe enough. The risk was too big to take just for football with all the implications and financially. And everything that you want of course but it was too much of a risk to our those games being played even in June maybe July Oguz. There was a possibility but they didn't want the risk is as simple as that gave me more than my Ryan saying why in the UK the Government of very much the driving force behind trying to get football back. Yeah that's actually making the primarily primarily clubs uncomfortable. The has a brief that they think it would lift morale if they can come back and obviously obviously doing it safely right now. We're still here in the UK. We're showing your lock until may seventh. But they certainly blocked back applying to do it. The trouble is the Premier League they. They actually care about their image. They're saying we don't want to necessarily go back until it's entirely safe until it's been made clear that we're not diverting resources from From elsewhere I think there are certain primarily clubs are asking themselves wait. Is it really worth it or all? The costs to go and do this safely is all of this worth it And also as a colleague. Alex Shaw Reporting Today There's some players who are saying you know what I don't trust these guys. I don't I don't feel safe. I don't want to come back. So you've got you've got different stakeholders with different views. But I think the one thing to remember and I find this really shocking about the primarily because that Spain Germany in Italy. All have very specific protocols that they've released to the public they've released to the government for examination about how they're going to play when they come back and they go into great detail the primarily haven't done that yet They meet on Friday. Maybe they'll come up with a plan but the fact that they haven't until now kind of makes you wonder what that appetite to go. Come back is really a strong as as some people suggest. This is all conjecture and I know this and and it's not like predicting a school or anything like that but I am interested. Joe's just personally. How do you think we're going to see football back? I think I think we've see back in. England is in for like an only speak about France and England here from the information. I have. I think he'll be back in England. Maybe knowing June maybe more at the beginning of July still find June very very early and very ambitious if if you think about the situation right now in the country again with with test with people dying people fighting people contracting the virus the virus it every day. I don't think it would be safe enough for football players to go by playing in June in July. I think you'll probably be okay. And they will do it I can. I can see the emotional connection that football I've with people in the UK. In England maybe bigger than in France. So I can take in consideration as well and I think that would be football but not before July in my opinion gap. I think I think Joe's right. I think says there may be football again. I'll feel much better about the sector. We'll see what happens with Germany but I think we'll we might see Even though it's not what the league want right now we might see a situation where football comes back in a reduced form if there's a way to come back and maybe move to a playoff system to to to settle European places. Settle relegation places possibly settle champions but simply play fewer games more controlled circumstances? You can throw more resources at them. It becomes more cost effective than might even allow you to finish the Champions League possibly under those circumstances somewhere. Somehow obviously we'd be talking July at this point Then I th I think right now if I had to bet that would be that would be. I think the most realistic scenario but again this could all change. Let's all sit and observe what Germany Duke last word on. This Scott mentioned the champions. The trolls obviously twenty four hours since the decision for France canceled football up until September within the country. What does this mean? Ps G. and. Leo is a bit different because Davis that can lead to play. Where from intriguing against you venter's whenever that would be possible to do so. You don't have the same issue with PSG who will have forshaw a quarterfinal home. Game to Blair. Some point potentially no goes. That's when the Champions League you F. I wanted to be finished. And they won't be able to so they will have to play their home game away from home again. Neutral ground somewhere abroad which is obviously not ideal. They won't have any games to prepare before the champions within because they complained against so maybe training games could do so far from ideal but they said we're committed to focusing now on the Champions League. Which is the right thing to do four for you if I was. It was a nightmare. The worst that could happen was one of the big five weeks to cancel neglect of nightmares. Well because thus far from ideal when you have high ambitions for the Champions League jobs thank you very much gills. Must be a rarity that you get to speak this much with Gavin. The conversation as well just reminded the latest edition of the Cabin Gills. Podcast drops. Tomorrow be sure to check it out so Christine. Carlson was given the task of naming the top thirty six plan under twenty one. Here's the top ten Kilian mbappe number. One J Sancho to try and Alexander comes in three Josie still with us We WELCOME CRAIG. Burley into her. Pray Jason Show to do. You agree with that. I don't really have an issue. I mean I was looking at heart. You look markets Riceville than stupidly. I realized he was twenty two because I think Arash performances for united could have shown them enough. It'd been the right age because he's not Jaden Sanjay talent the relevance and needless. Yeah well you know. Of course so why change? Just because there's a lot that I I looked to show Felix ten on. I think that's purely based on is not really hit the ground running and we haven't seen the best of having he's way higher up and Ted by hand even it's junior and one or two others for me is is Holland But if you're just talking about Jaden Sancho getting propelled into that category by a lot of people are going to talk about for a big big move for him And then the the pressure is really going to be on them. You know as one of the most talented most talented youngsters in Europe against them. But you haven't met tutorials I agree with on on these toll free up to say I think he's been below. Mvp and I think a lot of them are regardless how talented they all on is very impressive list. If you're cutty in food those thirty six players were all under twenty one on. May the first shooting talented very impressive bass you think. And Babe's way way above everybody else but yeah for sumptuous second for me make sense. He has a wonderful season before we we had to stop it and we certainly leaving the summer fall off money to a to a bigger club than Bush. I don't deserve so great so so far. We've got Marcus Roster this twenty two and as very good thank you very much chance right. Let's talk about Jaden. Scientists then shall we chose obviously Manchester heavily linked to the English. From where are we on this? Well we would was mentioned on the show on a Monday. I think he was trying to lobby to clear about what they're gonNA do. We're not going to spend a lot of money. We don't have much money to spend not much will happen is transfer window anywhere this summer which is very true. United are still very much leading the race for Japan Sancho as we reported many times on the show and on the website. There's always been already been talks between the two clubs between central united as well the other day he was doing a live instagram. And someone question and said SIPA. Bit of water. If you'RE GONNA time for united. And what did he do? You drink the water. Obviously so I think it will happen. I think he would choose united. He will have clubbed him. He will pick whoever he wants about in the United. Right now by far the most Chinese contender Craig. He drank the water. What does that mean? I'm asking neck? Oh he's he's taking shape pie if he's going to do something. I mean that's a given and I don't know should united goal from absolutely there and been in the process of make big strays to close that gap He has one of the most sought after players. Out there. Bushier Dortmund will not let them go for less than the variation they have of them and not be money And you know today. It doesn't often from pay. Because of finances is a very good club in is a very good woman covenant is put in a good site. It's got lots of games off. The United Mover. Any move doesn't come from When all this Lockdown and pandemic is hopefully over then the move will come sooner rather than later. I think the key for his patients and making the right decision and as I say if it doesn't happen for for whatever reason he's a brilliant club weary as smallman time meanwhile highly regarded reporting in Germany. Saying that's hands. Flick had a conversation over thirty minutes. The by Munich coach Would Leroy. Sanae about a move from city to the Bundesliga. Yes and there's no surprising that in the sense Dr last summer before we go really injury there were already aloft. Talks between the two clubs as well. They were negotiating of a historic for. He wanted to go back to Germany. And there's really only by Munich for him if he goes back to Germany. That time city wants you to over one hundred million euros which is something that by Munich. We're not ready to pay. And we a year on pretty much say and he hasn't played yet. This isn't because of the injury a obviously he's only one year away from the end of his contract. Which means that. He's price has dropped significantly compared to last summer. And I think if you can get Leroy who will grow back to full fitness and probably two is based not far from his best for fifteen million euros. Maybe even less than that you take and again. He wants to go to buy immunity buying Munich looking for play like him. It makes no sense. Seems to make sense Sunny Craig. Simpson no brainer. Yeah it's been networks for quite a while so I would not be shocked. I think is one of the moves that were never found opens up again Is More than light happened. The thing in this story and we discussed it just before we came on air was these things have broken. You know the fact that there's possibly been a telephone call between a Manchester City employees and by Munich employees stroke head coach which is breaching the regulations of how you're supposed to go about your business now for Estra staggers me because you know we all know topping up goes on but surely hail conversation one of them says. Let's go any further because we're not supposed to be doing this. So if I was Manchester City I would not be particularly happy even though I know. I'm probably going to lose the player. I don't think it would be too happy about an employee of mine under contract having a discussion with the manager. Another club at this moment jules. We know this happens but it's incredible that this becomes a public that's your rights and it's not the first time in the last few days we also Marino picking up his phone to quote them a million different Klabin maneuvers not the caliber of Leroy Cyber Sims. Those kind of things are leaked more and more now especially when there's food around so we probably focus to be more on transfer stories and what managers and players and agents are doing which we probably shouldn but like Craig said. We know he's going on. It's just a shame when it goes public like this just reminds keep out today. We'll the latest transfer news. You can go over to the website and click on transfer Toke. Though we're apart these days sharing so at Geico we'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing. Your savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your. Diy Haircut fails thanks for sharing your inner lip star. 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But I guess you had to have a good sense of humor which I love the Spanish Charlotte's Real Madrid did not but it all got gloss. Not on did it. Well I said I'd seen the bind the boys that showed me a few weeks before from pictures online and stuff and if you were just saying after the game if we do qualify to find out how call do as well but I will be together it but again I'll see the founder of. We're all celebrating the team like I said before like I'm not GonNa not. There's a bit offensive funland. People can can see how they like to celebrate on the pitches a country to qualify in just having a laugh. It was one of those things. Charlie what a way to start off your podcast series yet. No we're quite pleased. Thanks first of all. Thanks for having me here today. It was Extrordinary really was the human element if you will human being Gareth. Bale came out. That's a really came out in the interview and I was. You know over the years you get to know so many different people and and you know you have these personal conversations with them with them and you hope comes out during one of these. Podcasts certainly did in this case and it certainly does. We have other PODCASTS WITH LUTHER. Matteis Carline Rubini Tusa Marc Lamont Nazi tells us about the head but and the reason he felt insulted It's extraordinary it's it's great stuff. We hear from people like Patrick. Kluivert talking about the young American kid in the Barcelona camp. So there's a lot of fun things in these podcasts. Well struck you from speaking to him. Struck me how much a manager matters really that to me was the most interesting part of it that it matters per players development and whether or not even becomes a professional he talked so much about how his only goal was to make it at Southampton to make it to the first team and he was extraordinary when he got called up for the first time He you know. He said he couldn't believe it and his his sites are are are are very realistic. In the and I think in some ways he's overachieved but he really started out to achieve. He's become one of the one of the biggest players on the planet and he's he's demonstrated you know the big moments very few people come through as much as Gareth Bale does do you think he minds the reputation. They has Spain yeah. I had a sense that he was disappointed. Is the best way to say it and the fans reaction you know. You talk about Especially the English fans. They usually support the team the players even in difficult times. But you know at the Berna bows we know. And I've been there when they booed Cristiano Renaldo. They've booed eaker casillas. You know it. It's just a matter of I. Guess it's a right of passage in some way but I think he's he he put a little finer point on it. What he really said is. I don't think it helps. And not sure why people do it and he seemed a little bit confused as to. Why a fan would do that. Do you think he's going to say what? What was the conversation? Do you think you'll stay in Madrid? I think he likes Madrid. I think he likes the idea of being at the biggest club in the world is certainly one of the biggest clubs in the world. I think he's been a player that he he feels. He still has more to prove. I think to the fans and the manager. That's the sense that I got. I do think he misses a little bit of being sort of the. I guess the straw that stirs the drink. You know the main guy on the team. I think that something he misses and maybe his next adventure. He'll try to do that again I think. He seemed happiest when he was at Spurs. At least. That's the impression I got. And that's more because I think his players and managers relied on him and the same thing with Wales and I think he he really thrives off of that was a great for your first podcast. Just stay with me because I wanted to talk to you about something else because it was interesting. I was reading football. Three six five listed the top. Five netspend does the last five years. I think pretty much gas mileage two cities that Manchester United four though AC Milan. Which really struck me considering? This is a sign. That isn't meeting the Champions League since two thousand thirteen. I want to welcome back to the show. Guy Mall concept as well to the conversation Charlie. I want to start with you. This striking figures. Yeah it really is and as a lifelong Milan. Fan Gabes a lifelong inter fans. So he feels much better about this. I quit hits. Your is that they've spent a lot without without being able to sell these guys on words and you know the club to me. That's done a great job with this. Maybe because they own about a hundred players is Chelsea and they were able to capitalize on the market was good in China and so they were able to sell some players for a high profits in China. It seems like the AC Milan players. They've gotten haven't really panned out and they have to give them up for you know for nothing compared to what they paid for them to me. That seems to be the real problem. Their face with gap got it so wrong. Well I mean I think there's a number of things going on I mean you know. They've had three different owners in those five years. And you look at the tail. End of the bill loose corneliani regime They were thinking of getting Ou- they they spend money but they didn't necessarily didn't have that clear idea in between you had the disastrous Leon. Hong Monica Frassoni era. Where you know they were just just chucking money around left right and center I And I get by one bad decision after another a lot of question marks and these new owners that are in now Elliott management there. They've got very clear ideas about how they want to turn things around. They've inherited though a very very difficult position. I think a lot of the damage was done under the previous owners under Leon. Hong where they said we're way into a whole. We want to bring the club back. Let's invest a ton of money. Hope that we go on and win the League and you'll qualify for the Champions League will make up for it with the revenues on the other end when that doesn't happen you get yourself into an even bigger hole. And that's Kinda. What part of the reason why meet on earned the situation there now challenge we all scattered to give the top five worst transfers during that period. Calls Packer five equine. Full Pantic comes in three bigly to Lucas Pack Cancer Number One signing forty million year Rosa. Do you agree with that? Was the worst of them all. Yeah I think so. At least where we see now where he is right now in the pecking order. If you will and I don't know what's GonNa Happen to the transfer market. I don't think any of us know whether it's going to be it's gonNA collapse or what but no one thinks it's going to spring back or we're going to see crazy number so to get rid of these guys. It seems like they're always selling them on for a loss and you know they have to get it right to at least get into the Champions League and that's where the money is and yeah I mean it's it's it's not a mystery and it's a team that has a lot of decent players but I'd like to say a lot of players. They're all pretty much the same. They're about the same quality you see even a guy like Ibrahimovic at thirty eight years old changes the whole dynamic of the team because of the quality of player that he is and that you know in the old days you'd get twenty year old guys in twenty two year old guys twenty six year old guys coming in at a C Milan. That were that caliber. Not Wonder Thirty. Eight I mean when they had they had Hebrew the first time he was thirty years old and that was sort of the perfect. Ibra now Even though he isn't as good as he was and he's thirty still helps because he is a player of let's say significant magnitude. He really is. He makes a difference. Gob Is there any lights at the end of the Tunnel Fair? Ac Milan fans like Charlie. Arby's it's going to be a slow painful step out of it because financial fair play era. You Pay for past mistakes and Charlie something before. It's absolutely critical. I totally agree with you mentioned Chelsea but it's critical that you sell well and some people might point to Carlos Baca and say well. He scored a few goals. You know why are you have on the list? Well they didn't sell them. Well you know. Basically they ended up giving away in exchange for effectively. Simul Cassia till you have to be smart in terms of the deals that you signed the contract. You sign players. Lucas is an enormous contract. Signed him when he was thirty one it was obviously we're never going to get the resell value. And now you're stuck with it and you're stuck with people like showing Lou guys. Nobody wants and what day of promises they're going to go and they're gonNA be much more numbers oriented Admitted look for value. You saw little bit guys. They signed last year. Theo Hernandez Benazir. Those guys are players. Those guys are young they have resale value. They can do a job for you now frank. Seo Arguably if he regains his Mojo. I think you can build around that but you have to be smart in the way in the way you do it. And unfortunately they're inheriting some really big contracts and very if you'd asked me that five stupidest moves. I would've put Donna Rumas contract in there because he makes an enormous amount of money and even though he's a phenomenal goalkeeper. He's now twelve months ago. Twelve months away from becoming a free agent and of course his agent is meteorologist. Which Which nobody wants to deal with. So you know it's going to be. It's going to be difficult but I do. Think you do see baby steps in the right direction. Aquinas following through. Yeah I think that really need to understand that this administration if you will under I because e is and the Elliott Group and still Paolo Maldini thankfully is a is a group that is inherited a lot of the problems and I really have faith in this group that they're going to be able to to right the ship if you will but it sort of where. Inter Milan was five. Six years ago at the differences that soon being a retail giant they can. Let's just be honest. They can manipulate financial fair play. They could take some of the retail clout and bring it into the sponsorship. Side of the club is many of these clubs. Have done Ac Milan with Elliot doesn't have that opportunity. So it's it's going to be a little harder but they do have a solid financial backing and if they start making some as as gap pointed out some really good. Good solid moves Then I think they're going to be okay but it's GonNa take more time than I think. Any of US said dreamed of Jolly on. Thank you very much. Thank you very much as well for wearing a tie. Much appreciated need to say this. I'm only wearing a tie because ever sir. Alex Ferguson. Watches you guys. He says I don't understand why they don't have tie and why they wear jeans so in in the event that he sees this appearance. I WANNA say were tied for your boss. I like that a lot of that tally. He's old deal. Expect those sort of standards. I suppose you very much then guys just remind Charlie's new podcast along with Neil and ray drops tomorrow that exclusive interview that Gareth. Bale the hat trick Bichon. Download it Brasco to our website as well plenty of podcast. Download over there. Let's send the clock back to one of the most dramatic stories in Premier League history. New Cost like they were cruising to the premier league title back in January Nineteen Ninety six. They were nine points at the top of the table with a game in hand however they drop points Mantis united. We'RE NOT IN THIS EXTRAORDINARILY RON. And this is how the table loads twenty. Four years ago. Manchester United Three clear of new calcium nights. It now nuke also closed. The gap to three offering one victory against Leeds during the last few weeks are a lot mind games. Going on between Ferguson Keegan foggy talking about the fat the opposition they're going to go soft on Newcastle. Because of Keegan's relationship Keegan then snapped saying no. No when you do that. With footballers like Ferguson said about leads. And when you do things like that about of mine likes to it past. I've really quiet but I'll tell you something. He went down in my estimations when he said that. We have not resorted to that. But I'll tell you you can tell him if you're watching it. We're still fighting for this title. He's got to go to Newcastle. And get something and I'll tell you honestly I will love it if we beat them. Love it. `course it never transpired. That united went and got the victory against the middle's on the final day of the season. Craig Burley with us on shake hislop's of course. He was part of that squad during that season. Let's just focus. I shall we check on that. Ron How where? Or when we aware of what Keegan said we heard about the new dress room after the game. It'd been building to that and not only what he said immediately prior but I just feel as a team. We started to feel under pressure. Come come the tuna the year. We've been flying up until up until John. Refers to as you pointed out and cloudy sees nothing we finished with three wins on the road. Out of out of ten and ultimately was undoing but then just before that leads game short peers announced. He was your testimony at not in forest. I'm he unknowns. That new cost united would be the opponents. This was a game that was going to be played a week after the season closed on. That prompted Alex Ferguson. To see that appears not an foras wanted Newcastle to win. We still have to play forest in the league and suggested that they would go easy on us because it would ensure that our show piers got got a big which I can was absolutely right. An unfair accusation on a player with a record like like sure peers but ultimately was mind games and it got the better of of Kevin Keegan's certainly publicly but within the dress room. We knew that had been coming. We've been feeling the pressure within address from building for for quite some time Craig. Fogy clearly got into his head. Yup I think the way it was going anyway. United Newcastle United would imploding. The shocker mention the title was heading to Old Trafford. Anyway but I think the whole implosion from Kevin Keegan and it's an iconic moment whether you agree or not with the tactics behind it. I think really made sweetser. In whilst Keegan was s sharing has TV public run in Manchester Site. And he's armchair chuckling away elite. Never chuckled. Before because we knew he'd one particular bottle and he knew that was the kick in the Nila Nicole for Newcastle United S. After all mind games you had it with us. Vangere with Kevin Keegan had it was part of the part of the fair. Gesine resume really was to make sure he as well as putting good teams together and manages heads as well and he's got that Newcastle sharing away. Because shotton was brought to me it was a heck of a Newcastle State. Unfortunately they couldn't see and united. We're ready to pounce. And I'm sure whether Ferguson down in Keegan's estimation are not I'm surely united manager couldn't give a hoot shack was. What was the players like? Wow he's really lost it. There was without question because you didn't expect that from Keegan he he tried to maintain an even Keel. But as I mentioned from the player perspective we knew the pressure was getting to him and as a result got repairs as well that had been coming. Ellison figgy ultimately was the main antagonist behind the main focus of that around but but the pressure and as I mentioned the poor form away from whom particularly was telling we changed how we trained and weekly routines and just because they lose a couple of games. You don't do that and I think it sends the wrong message and that Sydney was. I get as much as I understood. The man had the inside view of of happened and how it happened to Newcastle United. And I was maybe a little bit on some of his accusations craigslist right if you involve with Manchester United and or dressing room. You couldn't have just Chuck Louis Gentlemen. Thank you very much just reminded. Espn AFC back on your strange tomorrow. Be sure to join us. Let brings us the end of today's edition of ESPN FCA. Big thanks to Charlie Sultana for joining us. Check out his podcast. The hat trick available tomorrow exclusive interview with that Gareth. Bale also bake thanks for his slob. Taking us through the Newcastle Dressing Room. During that Kevin Keegan rang. Show to stay tuned. No extra time is next GAP MARKAZI CRAIG BELLY. Welcome into extra-time. Thank you very much for your tweets Gavin Craig with me. There's a report that you say will only give players the popa any idea of which plays a possible. I would guess the leaked and DEBA- out of the question four. I mean look. I think this report is based on the fact. That cash is in short supply. And so I don't think it just concerns. You get concerns most clubs so if they really are as obsessed with fog about people suggest then there's only so many guys they can self I I would assume you would want to sell elected board DEBA- or bedtime core those guys are probably your most saleable assets because you're still young and they still have a market so I guess it would have to be one of those guys but bear in mind too. United we're linked debated last summer. I don't know if they're still interested or where he would fit now. That DEZ is there They're obviously going for James. Jones licht is immune Araya client and So yeah so. I'm I'm skeptical when people drop these these massive player swap deals in football. Meanwhile Craig who do you think? Spurs Manchester United Arsenal or Chelsea will be the next contending for the Premier League whose trajectory is better united finished before the shutdown relatively strongly But I still think they're going to work to do. I would probably say is definitely between Chelsea and united for me because I think the united vote spent or at least some of Chelsea well as well with the transfer and being furnished. I would probably say my oh club. Joe Arts the hater burly if a window of Sancho party and verner would have united challenges to the top to possibly yeah forcibly Sancho T. mobile party from Athletico Madrid. Might go somewhere bridge. The seven point guard sports thing Which young player frustrations you. The most by not becoming the world class players. They should have been either by laziness believing their own hype all five partying too much guy who springs to mind. Well I think there's an obvious answer if you're Italian and that answer is Super Mario Batali. Now there's been some revisionist history with people saying well. I never saw it. I don't see what made him so good and those people I'd invite them to go back and And watches goals against Germany in the in the euro. Two Thousand Twelve Semifinal but these obvious one that springs out there one of the guy would mention and it's not entirely its fault and it's a totally different category. Because he she so much. But you know guys like Wayne Rooney and Michael Owen. Were never the same you know. Once pass their mid twenties and injuries certainly played a part of it. I do wonder with Hindsight Medical Science. Maybe today being better ties and it was then what careers could have taken a very different very different path. And maybe there'll in jeopardy could have could have been maintained trey got retinol school about Robbie savage in a gym and football magazine. They mentioned a solid arguments. You had with him in a match. Can you tell me the whole story of? Did they found something in? The story wasn't so much an argument. At least Maitland's Darby at Pride Park Dot be sexy and the print media think primarily you get what was in the Premier League and the game wasn't going to well frozen eve is normally does refer Chech- up on nothing could dive. Sorry he die for penalty on. I may well have me a debt. Grab them rather than helping them. Back off the ground but I grabbed him around the throat. Area wasn't said but not argument. Not Between Myself Savvy. That was an argument that was done investors but the argument between the players continued into the tunnel often the game which we lost three to buy it. Never forget reverend out for a bit of a screw up. Until eight the Arken by the strife striker for Leicester City took his top off. And I've never seen a man so big and so muscle bound could we couldn't wait to get back into the door. Okay moving on. Can you rank the following footloose crate share and writes Gary Lineker? Random Shearer leneker right? That's the way I would go. Van Hooydonk or Mark Viduka while well both disappeared for a period because of unholy don't went on strike just before there by win mark. Viduka was teammate. Repeated don't strike Nottingham Forest and Beg Viduka spent on the missing list just to resign for Celtic and went back to Croatia. However he was he was phoned and dragged back to show up so I would say not played refined Hoi Dong but no how talented the as Bob and played no just token to play he was always saying mark. Viduka meanwhile gap. Where do you stand on Pete Surfing in square or triangular slices well okay? So they're not really triangles triangles. When when you take a pizza and you cut it into eight slices. Obviously looks vaguely like a triangle but the end is more sort of a a half moon shape. Of course it's eight slices. If you're hungry you might cut it afford slices if you're if you're less hungry triangular square pizza. That's more of a thing that they do in wrong. Obviously pizza didn't originate with but listen. I'm not a pizza. Snow Pizza's not my culture pizzas from Naples. Other people have taken pizza. They've adopted some people have have made better were acceptable. Some people have gone screwed it all up by putting a lot of garbage on it and those are the ones I resent. Have you cut? The sixteen. Gob is up more. That's if you really really hungry Greg. If you have the Dan then you might go. I sixteen pieces. There's much too much for me. I normally you know go for eight or four if I'm if I'm not on a hefty pay as one of my favorite does she says is cooked properly concede as the medical device. There's a total knee andro. When it comes to toppings on pizza I mean good grief there with these dress sense. Pineapple Pineapple go sick right. I've got to accept it embracing a few etteleat find out on a pizza. I don't find your chances of getting final question Ukraine. Do you have any superstitions or rituals before a match? What was I used to always try and go out? Lost wasn't a ritual. I used to try mixture MOTIF. Oh put them up for dead. Forget sometimes what S. Your Time's Aref was not about to blow the whistle but maybe a couple of minutes away in about the boat but down the tunnel and put them in time if I hand them to the monolith physio which they want. Please let because the game is about to kick off but I used. I used to draw before yes horrible. I used to touch the grass and just put machine pods on a certain way. I yes I used. The answer is yes I used to try to sell things and the dressing room and the warm up and before a game just before a game. I just can't remember all the things that I used to do. You have a ritual superstition. You go free before a big article. I don't superstition it's all it's all dark ages hearsay and no in fact. Sometimes I go out of my way to do things that that people consider to be On lucky just to go and prove a point thank you very much surprised just reminded ESPN AFC back on your streams. Tomorrow be sure to join us.

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PodQuiz 730

PodQuiz

15:00 min | 1 year ago

PodQuiz 730

"Sifni three zero. Hello and welcome to put quiz seven hundred and thirty. There is a price rant this week with the chance of winning a quiz t shirt. So listen on for that. Before we start. I would like to thank Dan who came up with the idea for round two. Round one. It's an interest around this week. So there are five pieces of music listen to for which I would like artist and title, but you're only going to hear the first few seconds of the song. West you'd one. Question two. Question. Three. Feet are Kengo. Western four. Western thought. Round two. Rent is on famous Kevin's. Question six we sports is Kevin Keegan best known for plane representing the England team sixty three times. Question. Seven the nineteen eighty one film Cecil peach USA, also known as Malibu hot summer was the first to feature which actor. Kevin Costner, Kevin Kline. Kevin pollak. Question. Eight who did Britney Spears Mary in two thousand and four only two defaults in two thousand and seven. Question nine which actor is the subject of a trivia game. Based on the idea that any Hollywood actor may be linked to any other in a handful of steps based on their association with him. Question. Ten Kevin Michael was a founding member of which pop band formed in nineteen eighty five. Round three three quick fire around on nicknames of cities each of the following five questions. I'm going to give the nickname of a city, and I'd like you to tell me which city it is. Question eleven the peak apple. Question. Twelve motor city. Question. Thirteen finis of the north. Question. Fourteen old reiki. Question. Fifteen stroke city. Round four rent full ace who am I round if you've not done one of these before it slightly different in that is just one Unsa in this round. And that is the name of the person the questions come in form of clues to that person's identity and the few clues you need the more points you school. Question sixteen. I was born in El Centro cut a phone you on my the twentieth. Nineteen forty six to parents Jones, occasion and Georgia halt. Question. Seventeen I recorded my first single called Ringo. I love you in nineteen sixty four unto the pseudonym, Bonnie, Jo Mason. Question. Eighteen I have two children, Chas Spano and Elisha blue Allman. Question nineteen. I was in a musical partnership with Sonny Bono and married. Him in nineteen sixty nine divorcing in nineteen seventy nine. Question twenty I had a string of hits in the nineteen eighties and nineteen ninety s including just like Jesse James if I could turn back time and the shoop shoop song. It's time full price rounds as you shelter is chance of winning a quiz t shirts by on Seraing, five general knowledge questions, you need to send you on to me in an Email quizmaster at crystal come and then in a couple of weeks time, there is a draw from auto get all the questions rights, and the winner receives the t shirts if you include where you're from in that Email, that's also helpful as well. Kevin. If you're ready. We'll get started. Question. One. We'll start with a music medley each of the singer shows which first name. Just call. And. How come? Yup. Question two, which would Conforto parent Bertha and Saint to form three new words? Question three. This is the picture question. If requent support situ Pizzi the picture now, if not it's on the website, deplete of pod, quiz dot com. It's the flag of the country and tell me which country it is. Question. Four opened by Queen Victoria on this day in eighteen seventy one which London comes at full is named after her husband. Question five. Okay. We'll finish with a theme of a film. I'd like you to tell me tonight the film place I'll play through and then I'll be back with the answers for the first four rounds from this week. Now, the answers. And one was that's the way I like it by KC, sunshine. Was the eagles song desperado? Shoe? Three. Sorry. Walker by salia? Can down. She didn't know what to do. So she jumped in me. Fun though, sadly walk. Phobos Huey Lewis and the news with wants and. Truck. Number five silver machine by Hawkweed. Round two. Two was on famous Kevin's and the answer to six Kevin Keegan for a full of soccer player. Number seven, sizzle beach. USA was the first film of Kevin Costner. Eight Britney Spears Murray Kevin fed aligned. But I know that trick is six degrees of Kevin bacon. Ten Kevin Michael a founding member of cutting crew. Round three from three PLs nicknames of cities and the answer to number eleven the Big Apple is. Twelve motor city is Detroit. Thirteen Venice of the north is Amsterdam. And before teen old Ricky is timber. And fifteen strokes city is Derry Londonderry. Round four. Full was who am I am the person looking for Cher? If you manage to get that after just one clue question sixteen you get five points. And then question seventeen is four point eighteen three points nineteen points. And if you need it all five clues get the answer. Right. Use core. Just one point. That's quiz, seven thirteen. Thank you very much for listening. Do you have the price? If you think you can't get Leonsis is still within tring because there is the consolation prize of quiz. If you'd like to do that on to get your answers by Email to Christmas. Put crystal come by the tenth of April pleace, just before we go I would like to wish a happy birthday to Josh from rose Marie. Speaking ex week. By now.

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47 - Premier League on NBC Group Chat Episode 2

The 2 Robbies

56:22 min | 5 months ago

47 - Premier League on NBC Group Chat Episode 2

"No one likes to feel stock especially by your cloud but the IBM cloud is the most open and secure public cloud for business. It can manage all your apps and data anywhere smart. Loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm Dot com slash flexible. Hi Everyone I'm Rebecca Lowe and this is Premier League on NBC podcast number two as we try to keep your company their home whilst the Premier League is of course the Spohn for now. Now this week we've entered the modern world. We are no longer burning in on a corporate school. We have all goes onto zooms. Hope you can hear US better. And if you're watching as well on Youtube on the NBC Channel. You can see us as well then we all in roads across the United States and the UK as well this week as you can see. We've talked leslie. Dixon Ramaphosa Romeo Rubin Style and come out and checks is not be to see everybody in Michigan. Will we talk this week about overseas a challenging time for everybody right now no matter who you all across the world and we got to thinking about other challenging times in our lives not careers and how we best handled them and how we now reflects McFadden overseas not compared to what anybody's going through right? Now which is in the theme of challenging time so needed all over there in bombs in west London. I'm GonNa Start with you if you could take back to a time in your career where you felt. It was really tough. What happens in how you dealt with it? Will Rebecca. I'M GONNA go back to a nineteen ninety. He was October. Nineteen Ninety Duck season nine thousand nine hundred eighty one. It was. The season ended really well for us in the lake for my second time. It's obviously I t nine. Victory Is Well documented. The pool then went onto win the league. Ninety which is the last time they look slightly GonNa win again very shortly. Hopefully then we wouldn't getting ninety one dot seasons of the club that loan so just still trying to set lane still trying to make a white in the first division was then which is now primarily trying to workout As a young man what he's about playing at that level and had a reasonable amount successively on so going into that season confident and then we went through all Tober and it was a feisty facts Of the the battle of Old Trafford. We recently sold the one with the baptist. Avoid while that was nothing compared to the one back ninety to you all know that. The boys remember rubbing will cause he's radioed his old is. Malcolm will do rumblings with Awesome Monte News a few little feuds that were going on notice. Nigel winterburn on Brian mcclair. Something happened to Highbury Nigel McKee out of Brian mcclair full missing a penalty. So he's a bit nichols they came across. H You look a lot on the pitch played opposite each other so that is a few little kicks in there so after that game we go to Old Trafford and then there was a couple niggles going on joined the game. The referee key hockey. I think he wasn't a time was trying to get control of the game. I'm does linked POSCO THAT BRILLIANT goal from a corner show Conan wit into the post cold. Locate the line goes getting ended up winning the game while nil in the second half there was a couple of tackles. It starts a flannel on the facade of the pitch at the time when notch winning for sidetracked with Brian mcclair and and how broke loose and I was probably faulty. Odds wait time so when you see something like that. Robin will tell us. Probably the first to arrive when the scope is going on as a peacemaker. My naive you couldn't see for Dawson asked the other way so what hotton was kicking Nigel on the floor and then everything went off. I think under slim car came in trying to attack. Nigel decided that the best rights to protect him to throw the biggest right hook above the stadium. My life landed on Brian. Class here in Split is a completely open with one punch medic house in Manhattan but shaved long long story is going on all night about the five is what happened afterwards. Game finished the game. One NIL BELIEF. Istat tune in style to look at the incidents and quite rightly Saudi was play his fine. They'd be drunk castle. Diva's undecided on Nigel. I think we had about six players who find You know quite a lot of money. Full the incident on a cup Leonardo plays but then the FAA decided in that wisdom to duck awesome. Two points offense Point we will adopt two points Monday night with one employee which we couldn't quite understand why does any difference. It was a male. Everybody was involved emphasis raising week. Two Point so George. Guzzle rounding circle at the training ground decided to do one be almost Winston Churchill speech. He's about sticking together about Beta family about inefficiency. You get drawn together. It just reminded me of what's going on at the moment that you need to have family around June also was a big family. We were Very Close Knit Bunch Plaza. Lots of tell you that same spirit was one of a very similar. To what Robin had it at Middle Forever Wimbledon kind nude a will be on five three three nine But we'll have a jolt set out account of box against the wall Lincoln arms mentality where we wouldn't let anybody in the press wanted to toll toll plaza would allow any place votes press. We count if grew stood on from the fact that we were a big unit and we together all in this trying to fight a common enemy that was basically outside world on the settings choir still quite young give my career on a kind of my first lesson in China they real nuances of abate in a team I was the first time it really clicked. And Yes we absolutely outvoted. Bosa of plans should have been fine. The should've been points Not Michael but what it did for me sought me in a in a situation that was looks from the outside is being really Baqwa. We grew strength from that. Actually that was my first lesson into you can achieve with a group of players in everybody else's against you and obviously what's going on in the outside well right now. I'm not saying we will go round file. Traffic does not able saying. Is that these people around you. The simple things in life about just having you may next year. We take for granted tons ECO. It sounds to me like George. Graham was overseeing real Montijo men a real leader. I should at time. You're young so you needed that. But do you think that right? Now when you think of the Club sneaking the bandages van role. Now let's think of Michaela for example they can't be with us but using their role in this very moment has taken on a whole new dynamic that a cool st nick applying for where they're going to have to face by trying to instill kind of owning it together mentality and positively from a distance right now. Selena on a think sometimes at margin certainly plays through the typed up his action in a team in for granted a little bit times. But I think it's time slot Perhaps the head. The figurehead village was then to stuns open. Actually there's a lot of mutterings going on in the world right now on an conspiracy theories and chats and all of that source though Fedex as the leaders that that stand up and actually calm everybody down in a moment light dot com slash because we wanted to fight the world about point. You know everybody was against as we were right. Not Fighter will we. We're not gonNA take any calmed his old down. He wanted to become a didn't want to be a hot headed. And I think the coach is a manages that you said now there's obviously a huge amount of emotion flying around everybody at the moment and quite rightly so not just full of any every walk of life and we Kinda just gotTa will come down and just breathe. An Oxley just listened to the people in power in food. Hopefully the experts will be out against this. Can I ask you a question? Yeah absolutely How disappointed are you that all all your gigs? At a coffee shop in covent garden were cancelled. What is this hot? You're inside? If you've been on the call at the right time heard but you would be laid. We move on Concertina never on on to you next you'll punish Romanelli Reading and so calm in his new lovely house in front of the rains. Love it rolling. Assay take us through what is challenged you or moving in. You'll create this shit. I think everybody I could pick out multiple Situations where it's been challenging through different reasons when you've been playing for as long as we have an interesting challenge impaired. I WanNa talk about is GonNa mid nineties when the foreign pledged to come into the Premier League Club Middlesbrough. Not Of course one of the biggest clubs but there was lots of money that wanted to go places and all of a sudden in nineteen ninety six all these international players coming into the dressing room. And you remember the the Middlesbrough we were a British squad. We stuck together and we got promoted into the flight shed one season back in into Bryan Robson and we finished midtable. Everything's fine that summer. I will change circus revenue. Any just WANNA Champions League event we have this little presenting co Janine. The was spectacular player. Msn was another midfield play. They came into the football club. Plus Italian pledge I knew confessed all all of a sudden adjustment changed. I'm for us. It's been there for many years. It was it was Kinda cool aheads around it and I'm not saying it was for the for the it wasn't for the worst. It was for the better because we went on a fun was a great run a Games etc etc. But it was very different. Justin was very different. Obviously the training habits of the place was different. We had players bringing their chefs to away games. telling chef come. I'm made his cookies every night and decided what we're eating. It seemed dinners every night. Oh okay right right. That's okay. We'll do that. And everything changed I'm familiar with me. Trying to find a way to stay on this road with the club the wanting to go places and on on on the league and it was difficult. Janiaux MSN. We had other good midfield players that May Have to change how I played and you know I was never a great attacking midfield player. But that's what. He's good at because they need to do that. Now would you neo coming in and Emerson another place to change? Basically and one thing I could do was run and I could run more than everybody else and I had a big heart and everybody else and I would cover runs engineer on Emerson. Didn't bother covering runs on. I found a way in a difficult situation to adapt to the team environment into the squad to stick around the sport needed and I ended up being that guy that worker to to to enable anybody else to play So so that will help from me as well. But amongst all the situations Rebecca one of the biggest challenges and we got about a lot the planet with that before was the difference in wages Ravanelli reportedly on and it was kind of factual everybody knew at the time. Forty two thousand pounds a week. This is back in the mid nineteen and I'll tell you right now. My wages at that time was about four or five on the question kept coming to the likes of Manson to other guys. These guys that you know the the the other kind of part of the squad. If you like the super south of what was how can you play in the same team with a guy's earning so much ten times more money than you're earning and that in itself was given thing to kind of get to grips with? How did that maybe fail? Well I I had no problem with it. Rebecca well saying no problem I I understood what both those guys bought to the squad and to the team and we went on cut runs and experiences basically because we had some really great pleasure in revenue schools. Thirty one goals in his first season. You mean the Was An amazing place. So I I understand the benefit of having those superstar players but sometimes it did make you think really they ten times more valuable to the team. When you're in the first eleven they are than I was so you think also starting to what did you think. Also that it depends on the character of the person. You don't mind them getting ten times more than us if the giving everything that you will giving and and if you've got a section that not maybe you know working quite hard on a mission to the cores that's when you start to get that that friction. Well that's a great point. 'cause forbid revenue was a great player. He was a pain in absolute pain in the ass squad and he went away on international juicy when we were struggling in the premier league so we use Grey Cup runs but basically in the league. We were struggling I'm GonNa go away with his international do interviews send. The team aren't good enough. The defense terrible. You know. That's why we don't do well in the primary wig and all the goes. We're not good defensively now. Of course that was big headlines at the time he comes back into the dressing room and he's so awkward is difficult. It was a difficult dressing room. And you're right Graham. I mean if if those players star players that run all the money and getting all the headlines and making a difference. They're going to be honest about that. But not showing the same willingness not rolling the sleeves up when you're fifth from in the league table due to own the hiding in games so that that was difficult part of it and some of the players and also didn't like it was stopped. Players mostly selling joint pain on August two two by being the leader that in taking all of address what was so Bryan Robson. All that was kind of guy. Say when you need somebody who can be leader in almost tool to you why. Somebody's getting this mom money all is exceptional player is going to make the benefit to you. It was one of the moving them in home games for me. Didn't do enough. It didn't do enough. It wasn't strong enough in a situation. Where the dressing room getting a little bit out of hand? And there was no clicks and the foreign plants being one corner visit ends in another corner the bridge that will always together and with the majority but it it it wasn't a great scenario and you know from the season before where we we did all right. We finished I think trump ten in the permanent ninety six or first season by cup the following season we had only straight runs in and they finally got renegade and so it wasn't as good even though there was some stop plays in that team that went on and other things are the clubs but it just shows the dynamic and the change of adjusting room. I it's so important we do all the time about we talk about all the time and the team getting promoted primarily they change too many plas- come in the room sauce to go away other teams. I mean there's examples of a good inbound both sides but the shepherd nights is right now the pretty much stuck together they bought. Some strike is to help them get goals but they've done marvelously. While so I just I I relate my experience back to some of the things promoted too many changes. It just doesn't work. Must say that that responsibility to me like when no the French slots came in so all dressing room after Austin came ninety six ninety seven. It was No influence in the dressing room whatsoever. Awesome idea until about Bryan Robson. Who didn't out guys in that when we police not just flew so those guys as well. Robby Robby was deciding Wimbledon judgment. You couldn't go in there and stop from around knocked. Try Putting fifty percent. Fm get found. They would so you ever and I think that's. That's the difference where the really the top managers can create an environment the police's itself within those walls. Thirty rarely after step into it. It does itself nothing. You can get balance. Ri- that tight so much white. Yoda's yeah anything without an agree with that you aren't you personality is big on the plane by Ghana's rubbing Nettie coming in too late low Middlesbrough tell you all. It takes a lot of big personalities. Because he allowed he was very loud very obnoxious. Very demanding very moody. And it's difficult. I know what you mean and not an idle snow. You pull these plays and you bring it back together again. But it wasn't easy and an old. Yeah school goes exactly. And he was a star player for him to be mood in. Be the painting yards and addressing moons. cynical can keep in touch with them roby. By the way I I next week I could I could. I didn't mind Ravanelli and we absolutely fine because see appreciable I brought to the team. Did he hated some of the slackness trainer we had. We had no training ground than we used to jump on a rickety old bus and go and go to some crappy old trading pitches so he rightfully he kicked up a fuss and we got new training ground and it helps a lot. The other players may be would envious didn't well to revenue was fighting with him Physically in training. Sometimes I mean I didn't I never got to that with me. I I respected what he did. I I understood the importance of a team but certainly it was Molesting the club must have just a little a little line on Janina and training training. Yeah I mean I I. I'm not sure how many of our listeners of us remember that what you need me. But when he came in it was it was on the ground just doing simple dribble through cones drills. That was like wow. We don't do very very quick. Dry Dynamic The biggest hot I mean he was Bernie posted while Kyle so his skills and abilities he wanted to come to Middlesbrough. He wanted to do well and he did too. So I can't speak highly enough and we all got. Who's your favorite player from the best place to be played with Janina by a mile for what he did club and he's not the chewed is hot. But you're right and I I. It skills and ability and quickness was was stunning to you. Thank you that's great About a challenge in your career. How's dealt with that I'll talk about a challenge in my career. That will also be me. Educating my English mates on what? A trade is I know muscles an American and you know huge huge patriots fans so he understands rates for sure. I was also drafts so I got drafted to Columbus out of out of college. I decided to leave school early. I had a chance to go play in Portugal before college decided not to do that. And so when I landed on Columbus. I had kind of quick rise after really bad. Start where the coach didn't like to play young players. It took me almost a fourth or third of the way through the season before I got my first start. The trouble is it was two World Cup. Veterans a Colombian international and and John Arc's was southern midfielders and so finally broke into the team had a great season got into the US side. Second season was was really well. Got The number. Ten Jersey was all going great and my my career. Trajectory was on up. I was getting more calls into the team. I was playing in international tournaments and then we got a new coach Amen to Columbus and and he and I did not see eye to eye. He thought I should defend. I thought I shouldn't It was where my performance in hindsight I can look back and see it now. I was I was kind of. I was believing my own hype and I was getting I was getting too big for my Britches and he was doing me a favor that I didn't accept which was trying to help me get back to being a player that could impact every game rather than having his ups and downs. And only when we were playing well or only when I was getting a lot of touchy as or only when you know things were a certain a certain way would i. Would I be able to take over a game and then disappear on US trying to help you through that? I did see it when I was young. You know you're you're you're in this weird world of like everyday it's tunnel vision next training next game and so sometimes he would do things that would that would really annoy me. But now I see how much is trying to help me. For instance he wouldn't call fouls on training so I would hold onto the ball too much and he was like all right. We're going to show this guy that you can't do it to to set up thousands areas and all this stuff. Sometimes you don't get the calls and so he would get someone to kind of follow me around and kick heart Kick the crap out of me in training every day and it got me really upset and it would get me a couple times. I kind of blew up and he was trying to teach me lesson that I didn't see and so I regret I requested a trade and I remember it really well such a tough decision because I loved Columbus. I bought a home. I was I was creating a life for myself. I was twenty three and was in the US team. Everything was going great and I kind of through this huge disruption in my world. Because I couldn't handle this challenge. This coach was was throwing for me and I remember it. I was in my house getting rid of fixing a light fixture because I was gonna put it on the market and one of my really close friends on the teens. John Walney was up on a ladder and I was. I am by the way my kolding. Aladdin he's up there actually and I got a call up the ladder and I was like automated study and I got on it. It was my agent and he said you know trade went through. You're going to La it's actually. It's actually I two players. It's a combo deal. It's you and John Wall. Nyack four these to La players and John was definitely not looking for a trade and was up on the ladder lesson fixing light fixture. And I was like no because I worked at this trade the only way the galaxy. We're GONNA do it is they. Were giving up a big player but wanted to players and to explain traits. Two guys you can actually buy player. You just want that player. I'll give you this fire for that player. It's it's like playing cards exploration really You called me after the podcast wasn't clear. So then what's crazy about trades and transfers in the same? But there's a whole window. There's time to think about that day. It was like one PM. The call came through. I was on a flight with John that night because the galaxy had a game. The next day we flew in landed really late. Nah Not night met the manager at the time and the GM who was lexi lawless for breakfast and then I was in the La Galaxy Locker Room putting on my jersey. I haven't had a training session yet. We just played three weekends before. Night scored the winning goal. So I was like. Hey guys and I started that night and it was this crazy thing of being thrown into turmoil of like you know how. Pichu our world is same. Drive the practice. You know. Same place that you sit in the training ground in the locker room your your your stuff. The same way the physio. I was meeting people while I was getting my ankle tapes and I do think of like four or five players that James me in that moment because I think other players like listen. Buddy gets like figured out quickly. I've got a game. I'm not going to change the way I prepare. Because you don't know how you know where the where the training and so there were four four or five players that really immediately took me under a couple from the national team that realized how off putting that was crazy it was to be a new locker room and be in such turmoil and yeah. I mean it just goes to show. I'm sure you guys had similar experiences when you moved clubs. It's like that that that that Brotherhood in that commodity. It's it's sort of quick like you have to gets about level with people really really quickly and put a lot of faith and trust in people in a weird way our competition with you at certain moments but like it's this kind of put it all aside. We've got something to do together and I kind of feel like I've been thinking moment because right now is all this like we. We don't have the ability to lean on each other and be there like we normally are and see each other in the in the in the in wardrobe or or in the in the makeup room where you guys in the in the van before the game. So it's you know it's it's nice to remember how good that feels but it's just tough to feel that feeling right now so Calling did you. So the Columbus experiments with the coach did that help you did you take on. Some of the lessons was kind of trying to retort you. Columbus do you change the player based on that experience Now me I think I think what happened was I got a little bit complacent at Columbus because two things one is. I didn't have to be at my best every week to start and I also didn't have to be at my best to get in get into the US team when I got the US team. I was at my best. I wasn't I was disrespecting my club team by not bringing my my highest level because I in a way I was getting away with not and not really picking up on some of these on some of these lessons and then I could go away with the team at n find that level again which is unusual typically. You can't kind of switch it on. Switch it off and so L. A. was just a new challenge. So I didn't learn a lesson. I still was a brat. I still thought that he was against me. But I had a new locker room to earn credit from these guys didn't care what I was doing with the US team or with Columbus like weaken a week out in training. I had to prove to those guys that I deserve to start every weekend. So that that started to bring my best level back and also Beckham Anabelle's ave in some other veterans. That wasn't back. There was a really quiet guy and training. He wouldn't he wouldn't talk much but there was a lot. There was a lot of standards settings through how you performed in how you train so l. l. a. was was just a different more challenging environment with Landon and Kobe and so you Kinda quit and float in La. Like I got away with in Columbus now on likes to feel stuck especially by your cloud but the IBM cloud is the most open insecure public cloud for business. It can manage all your apps and data anywhere smart loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm DOT com slash. Flexible suffered interesting. Came up thank you on the Elsa coming to you in Long Beach California over team my friend. Yes mom. I'm so I'd like to take back to April twelve two thousand nature twenty years ago. Which was the last time compassionate. I kicked to bowl now circumstance you to nominate rural little bit strange in Joe Kinnear before would have a hard time capsule even the full weight on the Norwegian Not Snow Eagle Olsen components of the Obama remembrance bone for wearing Wellington boots and having Fox about how high mountains weather knowle's saying come from me on on Olers maybe would have helped it. Came going netted crime gutters. Fasting crime signed to. We will talk. The way we play on is dry. Am probably when you played with them then. We're going to win the game. Because he can play. I'm going to change them. Evenly distributed off can be defense even an impassive and try the bowl which just don't profiler Time and main him and I was catching in the club at the time. The didn't necessarily get on himself was quite an important game coming up on April twelfth. Two Thousand Plan Schefter. Lenzi is the team and was reserved game being played nine and I knew I wasn't in the fifty lapin. Alexi the minding. Listen if you don't think I'm GonNa be playing you. You didn't know GONNA use Mrs so to play in the musicians and get many thousand kip fitness and hopefully do need many S A great idea. Ans- shield may also went to play Waffen immunizations. Victory Drought in about two hundred people and We we will play not game. All the fish team playing Sheffield Wednesday now. Ten minutes into the march around heading a Bul away. Cronin come out young people in a little bit notices coming John. Jesus he's coming. Punched the Bull Olivetti handed it. I'm we both landed on the floor. And we ended his name. Basically kind of trades through into my stomach and as a time you're just like wow that's really weird feeling mole. China tallied until calls time got time sitting in the dressing room. Shot the situation across. Something's wrong here relooking. My stomach basically went from a normal summit looking local is nine months pregnant and basically in a busy clinical winning hostile so we went to inflammatory quote long story short a kept me overnight discount the next morning I had a bleed Balsam Honey get blood out of a blood transfusion. Knew there was some damage eventually. Six weeks later found out. Toma countries three months in hospital loss for five stone and how to big operation to go to London. On the bay operation had country Song Together Fulton evacuated the job And that was basically ended. If a civil itself it's Kinda funny. How fate choke each? Paul teams have not been walks. But I did go. Walk playing in the game go. An injury that meant advocates kicked a ball again exit sessional level the point. I would say for Mad Max Shit. I'd be really interested in boys would of momentum house not just losing my career that's one thing and Huntingdon respects. That was that made the decision. Easy wasn't like should a play another seasonal now. I couldn't go move on with my life of the mental outside Training grounds seem to the Chad. Jesse name LID embiid pull up and find and enjoyed a lot MC totally isolate taken away from it. No Paul looking forward not knowing what she did. You not understanding what was going to happen next event. It made me think about times. We're not wear people in College. Become an issue way. Maybe play on a team on Wednesday night with you mentioned hoppner anymore and how those things and just being Jesse Elliott. Long career at all snow. Maybe thought that he wanted to do these plan. Create I felt as though about your activity. There was a little bit of the missing mentally. I just made myself busy. I know you need to the names and not too is just a little bit more your lots Donald Final shots in your career playing. Definitely your point you know. Leeann I and roby were fortunate enough to choose. Rummage stopped I mean at a couple of big injuries but ultimately retired thirty six having not much left in the tank Lee definitely have nothing left. Thank you watched any of his finals. Kyle you stop for us the big injury. Can you call an unrolled? You finish you finish your career. And I think there's a definite difference between that inverted commas closure a name being being able to decide and how that impacts on you and verses having to stop with an injury and I think that's a real challenge in it's always concerned me even to this day. There isn't really any of his big thing with long-term injuries and career ending injuries in terms of that support getting them through it in the post traumatic either. They let you inevitably as a result when that happened. I was five so I was coming to the end but I think like everybody. You KINDA WANNA finish on. You'll think years left. I think we'll Graham said really pull no because what I did. Tunisia finished was. I did my coaching badges article. He didn't look didn't shave him. Nigel I just thought my South super-busy away didn't didn't mess it about CEO Foyer Eighty seven day. They not a coup times. I've been to games really started. Sat me on my job back. You know when you've been kid Newcastle. Doing the game was jogging by on the one and he's got the feeling line. I'm no longer the big poll show him? I'm more on the side now. I'm just a little bit of extra year when you the plow Think when you go to games you can often define what's going to happen in the match whether you scored a goal stop go Something or not when you kinda finish you you feel as though you lose a little bit. Hala little strength that it was the same major. You appro in splice roby now now. You're older wiser and have more reflections now. Are you now able to look back at your entire career and see the ending almost all of the story and visible now? Yes because I'm point. Twenty on new realized landed up looking the game and whatever that I did actually that decisions implant Walter of it was called story. Is I think what the differences in Grad makes a great clue. Some plays ended up coming to finish regardless of the position. A promise money. You've got a not while creative. I look at somebody at any interest in and I hope we're not talking about the under these creator yet. Will Jot Wilshire in Kobe? Appoint an example is some ten twenty eight years after he is created many. I think he's GonNa live by fax. Nothing these regrets nothing absence struggles with these lives grows on because the kid we saw domino nineteen. I was thinking while in the one of the great. I didn't quite expect. And it's really important earl and I'm glad you brought it up. We have to be able to have these mental health conversations and fortunately athletes are to talk about it and my I had to stop it twenty eight. I can remember this conversation like it was yesterday the US team. Doctor put a recorder on the table. And we had to record my message with is that that Mike Mike. Professional career was over in. The recommendation of the doctors was even. I couldn't play anymore and like I. It took me ten years to get over that in my still. I still do today in hindsight though I started sobbing in that room partly because I didn't realize it at the time but I show much relief because of what what depression was doing to me at that point. I didn't I didn't realize it and like we. We get into this much world. If we're supposed to be strong or not allowed to feel next game next will get up do it again and like. I think it's really important for young players out there to understand and Jack wilshere. Whatever he's struggling with you. Hope he feels. He's got the support system to say. I'm not doing okay. This isn't well and like I have I. I have a lot of challenges in finding people. I think this climate has been good where people feel comfortable to speak in Sam scared. I'm I'm frustrated. I'm tired I'm angry and like you know I think pausing to consider that stuff is so important and like I wish you know. Part of it for me was a trajectory as a player in a dream all these injuries I had came at these crucial moments when I had wind at my back and reset and so that's hard enough for any player but if I had someone I looked up to that was that was that had a successful career or successful life and showing what. It's like to live a healthy mental life with depression or anxiety or any of these things man. I think it would've changed my career path. I think one of the reasons I had to retire was was. I was so defeated that each next injury took so much more out of me because I didn't have the tools to really get myself mentally fit again so that physically. Those things connected again so. I'm glad you brought that up like speaking about mental. How often and challenge and difficulty is not weakness. That ultimately is the strongest. You could be to be honest about how your before I get to grand. Just want to add one thing that we spoke about three times in the studio with regards injuries in Mrs Injuries. Implies like Wilshire Carol even hurricane at times and away back to the lights down into an who was nicknamed sick notes and. I think that we've talked about this. Actually author maybe one day. We'll talk about more on AC is there. Is this weird thing that humans do around. Footballers Entertainment. It's kind of take the Mickey. It's kind of always injured again that holds and there's an if you put yourself in the position of somebody to Ambi Caracul on Stephon and imagine how it must feel all the way through your grid engine everywhere you go. You're injured and he thought about blowing the club. I guess what you did and we all do it. Oh guess what he's in. Europe is injured again. But we don't actually imagine what it's like to be in his shoes to actually being. Same with John Ralston. It's it is a worry or that mental health and I'm just not sure that the the perception of injured players who are injury prone obviously some humans more injury prone than others Treat defended by the media when it comes to talking about them and often it seen as their full week in some way and they should be blamed. I think that's quite interesting topic that we can explore many on another diet grandmas. But let's finish with them. You will time is shaky grants book. Anyone watching read grams book. Because he could have had a new different ones. He could off today a few interesting challenges in his life. My friend which one picks I think you know in this time where everybody is being affected by the corona virus and the impact. It's had on all of us and drawing on everyone's story is really about the sort of the need for human contact. The need for relationships lead talks about you know a a situation but Bercy is team together might them closer made them more resilient inverted commas on the other guys talking about barriers paw soup careers has been changing big changes and unlike have had to do with us and and for me of US oppose this time of isolation Fula versus. Give me a chance to reflect on. Probably the last time I felt the world was shaken in such a way And that was nine eleven And you know the world stopped. We live in a bubble is sports where the show ways John but occasionally dozen obviously after the tragic events in September of nine nine eleven In two thousand and one on the world stops the Ryder Cup was cancelled. people didn't travel Lots of competitions sporting events were cancelled And it was a terrifying time for everyone I think it's probably in its own way Comparable to now the uncertainty of world events. Mike US feel more vulnerable. And this is the bizarre thing about what we're going through at the moment lose just as we need a new At least questions in these uncertainties so we're being told we can speak to people by You Know Coors Light Vase and you call even shake someone's hand so that emotional human contact is really difficult when after Nine eleven we had a gaming in Israel against Hapoel Tel Aviv and the company has options Six of US didn't go Such sort of plants elise pause about bringing a team together in a difficult time. We'll pulling the same way. Six of US decided not to go to Israel. You can imagine the The public sort of abuse. Omar's three that we got for that on the rats on justify the lot of the media tried to really a divide us as a as a group of a a a a very strong group of players who who had a real unity in on the outside is. We're trying to sort of drive a wedge between us And for me it was. It was that sort of conflict between being desperate to play and be part of my team. My family my full family but also the the responsibility on includes a tight for my family. My wife had just had a second child In the weeks off the nine eleven full the full the match and and it was very difficult. We had two friends. That daughter and my friend's wife was heavily pregnant with that second child who legit south of New Yorker managed to get out and living with us in our house just outside London and it was a hard decision to make it was. It was the most difficult with the choice between my full family and the guys were not about listening the bowl alluded to astronauts bomb. Dr and the personal choices i. It's May on behalf of mind family and my responsibilities to them. And I it just makes me want to really highlights that that sportspeople You know they. They have to deal with on a daily basis as well. We put on a bright facade. Gripe from I think it's called talks about mental health. You know we designed program to perform and and everything that we dating with one side when we step across that white line and I think now's the time the players of the sportspeople whether there Olympia suffering. The disappointment having the Olympics postponed for year other athletes and general people who aren't able to go to work just to take that moment so actually look at what's important and and try to get as much out of time as an because I think we'll be welby call and leave. They being expressed difficult. They think through but we'll come out the other side which a positive reflection on it doesn't mean that completely hill. I know well Lee well enough to know whether it's GonNa be audible to heal him but ultimately the situations we're GonNa find ourselves in that we have to overcome and and this is a great opportunity for us to actually reflect on what's important. I think Carl said the simple things in life really important moment and it just reminds me of that whole experience of what we went through Only upside off of that time we've played lead united one of our biggest rivals. Leeds United when when Applied Chelsea and the response of the whole group was absolutely incredible. We've never fought for each other more than we gave that weekend when we all got together and we valued each other and valued the fallen. An actually all of us. I think was strong before it because those plays that went I respected. We'll respected and the six of us. That stayed behind fell valued when the team came back As we did before we had to make that decision that we weren't going to go so it was a very challenging time and there was a lot of things we have to deal with but but out of it we we all Took something positive and became. I think stronger for it. It was manager then. Gray narrowly which was the coach and the difficulty rose. Ten Bites at a lot of bravado. Is the chairman And he he decided that that guy was gonna go ahead you I for we the only game that wasn't a postponed or played in neutral territory. And you know this was Israel so it was a at the time. It was very much from senator of some of the things that were being spoken about around. Nine eleven The Minister Petroleum was assassinated when the plane obscene were in the flying's retrial. And and so. It was a very serious serious time. The Foreign Office do not travel on. There were lots of things and signals and reasons why nobody should have gone but we have to do with the situation of a what we're seeing from the outside as divided Rushing them before before we wrap things up good Graham just from your point of view. Also tweet Rachel. Came from the football. Cloven footballers viewpoint vote for somebody like yourself. Who's in a role model for housing standards? Hosting shows slides in studio live side is many instances it mule career special created a situation. Now yes a couple tougher being terrified but every to mind feature on my knees nick to knocking together the Very Front. I have to do this somehow. Managed to The the one the situation you guys will remember eight years ago to the day. White Hart Lane Bolton against ethical final and I was presenting the show from a pitch deck with the guys do now when all that has the pitcher with Joan bonds and Kevin Keegan. Espn U. K. And Jon Champion was a commentator with. I think Craig Buddy and it was you know very late and I saw about thirty eight thirty nine minutes and Moamba went down and we were actually Cecil Observation seats which literally behind and Tottenham Dugout to me a few a few yards from the pitch and we were sitting there watching all kind of debris titan squeezed out. We knew that something was going on because he being down while and you just know situation I've got you get that sense nuclear that something's not right. Hit to the point to which we were to normally would be told. Get Out of our seats. Go take oppositions about forty three minutes and it was about thirty a producer. Go Now UNICO now so we had to cross in front of the dugout. She's never fun and over to where the desk was about faith symbols and then we'll basically happen from then on was one of those kind of Kind of fighter flight really your body just went into autopilot and I had to go on ad within a few minutes of that happening because he was taken off the pitch and Jon Champion through down to me and then we were with Kevin Keegan John Bonds and I had absolutely no instead not huge amount of instruction of Halloween. We're going to be on the on annual ended up being about an hour. Now we go to break a few times but obviously ESPN because it's difficult to find those huge game. There are a lot of producers that they will have the guts and those people had come from the hospitality in the stadium. Spray way back into the trucks in order to help reduce the show there was a lot of producers trying to shovel those listening in the US. We have opened back in the day. Which means you hit everything. All the time. Every graphics operates up every every director the egg county effort so I had a bone in my ear. I I have this and that contrasted with a solid white hot man. Sort of fans still Dame it's going to be a bandage John Boehner very much not gonna come through a similar thing with one of his players not vivien-foe and who had gone on International Jeet Singh anisette similar situation happened and heaven was getting very very emotional as this was going on so I was kind of dealing with both John. Kevin know that his family because it was a Bolton play on their playing away a very good chance was I happen to interviewed. Moammar anew yet. A young Kid Omega to and I quote the child's of his wife and children coming all the way to why we're probably slows as good Johnson watching our. Tv's this so responsibility to make sure that I was grow costing her as well as maybe business family as well as the Gym Republic and it was it was hard I mean it brings Chivas to my sign now. It was really difficult right. The right tone between not being too because thank God he. He went on to survive an eastern Brennan late. But of course for a long time it did look like that was going to be the case. We kept getting sufficient information about which specific Nettie decent. You Information I. I have to always expand fill time without making it. Sound Frivolous is really difficult to strike that tone. Go into brand coming out with break reestablishing what happens. Getting facts right. What minutes to go down what we know so far. You will just shooting in because it goes. I knew we were the only company that had the end so there were people tiny on ESPN U. Crap all time to find out what was going on. We eventually optimizing our cool surface. The producers told me to end the show and obviously none of this was written completely athletes and trying to end the show rounding up. Something happened and saying goodbye and making show didn't sound too sad to mobile APP but I did still fake thank Was was far away. The hottest I've ever done and then as soon as we came back I have to go on and this is unprecedented because ESPN UK of those days to sky. I went on strike schools news with the bus by not busy news until school because I was kind of the anyone on C. So I had to a whole ream of interviews. Thought back to the truck at a lot. Sugar very quickly to try to calm myself down then drove home in a state of panic. unaccountable chauffeured thing so joan bonds and Kevin Keegan buzzing. The white however will not saying whether it's the back that night still in shop and terrified to wake up. 'cause I didn't WanNa know what happens as I said he somehow somehow survived and then about nine months later. I was hosting England under twenty one game at Carrow road. Espn UK and he was my guess because he's hanging on the twenty one. I never told him. The I was the one that was presenting the show but I was just like I found myself just looking at him. During the game like disobeys without that one wonderful people out of the many sons such amazing. But it's certainly a moment in my career where I never thought has to go into news mode real real real fuss property used by NC. 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PSG Puzzle Up Front

"Hello that welcome into the show. There have been many words both written and spoken about the name uh saga of the the last few months. Are you ready for a few more will we. We're going down that path. I'll hundred marino check. It has slop craig burley at the provider of many more words in many more definitive words also joins us. Julie laurent who's just a three thousand word article summing up the entire name us three two thousand jews. How long did it take. You don't answer that. Let's get to the heart of what you wrote. It's up there on e._s._p._n. N._f._c. dot com and the suggestion that after all that there was never really a serious offer on the table for neymar from barcelona really really that's the <music> dust the whole context of a few on the whole thing about it is that in the end it looks like and we know now the boss so so now whenever really able to afford him and tried and good for them for trying i guess but it's like you are going to the limbaugh guinea car dealer with money money only to buy a ford escort at some point. It's not gonna work. You could try to check in your kind your wife's car and your whoever else shaikha sky even the old maserati. It's not gonna work. You're never going to be able to for the limbaugh guinea. It was exactly the same and there's a point where especially play like name. Are you know regardless of what he's been doing the last two seasons in p._g. Regardless of the injuries is one of the best and biggest plays in the world. You just can't go and like a wheeler dealer trying to make a deal on the on the cheap all trying to bargaining the dido anything like this and and g and our paper even quite simple. He wants to leave peers happy for him to leave. You can leave on their terms terms but because they don't want to lose too much money or because they want to do that also works for them. Buffalo now want him back in many respects so let's do a deal. The deal was never ever leave a near near getting an interest in any one of the main. Themes of your article suggested that leonardo auto for p._s. She was one of the main reasons that it didn't get done. I do wonder and we will never know. Obviously what would have happened if leonardo hadn't gone back to paris jason if antero ricky who is not really the solve tough negotiator this kind of strong character that low nowadays and certainly never really fell ease in the role of being the sports like leonardo es and was in its first but the club were between twenty seven and twenty thirteen so coming back. I think changed the whole dynamic or at least allow the dynamic of that deal because in front of them bosra hot someone one who knew exactly what he had to do. The qatari set him okay. He can go but we can't. We can't get done here. You know it has to also work for bryce. We can't just having bought two years ago for two hundred and twenty two million euros and letting him go on a cheap for two missing kids fifty million fifty million in euros and maybe it'd be more later that doesn't work like this and i think now though was very strong enough and intelligent enough to make sure that every time in that negotiation he who's the strongest player that strongest position and they felt you know if he doesn't leave then we still have a very good player on our books jobs. I want to bring the boy next point to you. Wrote wild at neeman was angling for his move away lengthy chance with his teammates who were trying to persuade him to stay stay and now he is going to stay. Do you think that team and those teams again a welcome him back with open arms. There's no doubt about the dressing racing room. I mean it's not rocket science if you ask them. Do you have a better chance to do well in the champion's day with name all without name. Our name name is based. I mean everyone would say of course you know in babe's shoots fun of neymar or the brazilians or the south americans. Maybe a power from an instant kevin big funds of name all. There's no doubt that when he's based when he had the attitude when he's positive when he's happy he's an incredible player and he's done incredible things for g fifty. Two one goes into as much as it's. It's an incredible ratio so they'll hope does the name on that would turn nine be coming back into the team and find playing saying again and so yes. The problem is defense how they will come in when they will come back. We know that when he meets the first game the banners and the the insert from the very extreme so that would be interesting to see but from the dressing room point of view from thomas point of view. There's no doubt that they are very happy. Nowadays they staying. We'll get to the fans that graphic stuff every email velocity months from our producers komo off stuff at least see read your email. I'd sometimes at the nose up lights taught how to read three thousand worlds without reading glasses jillian south dakota. I read i was reading a full blood though this leonardo stuff's interesting how he's more a hot bowl character the boscell never really were in the game bailey didn't wanna go all that stuff and we have to go back and he's not the only show in town no because because these there and more importantly. I don't know if there's any article talked on is arguable the star intone anymore folks because kellyanne elian imbaba not only has he kinda lost. This ability is lost the support of the fan base. You won't rightly solos the support of the dressing room. Why would you can get a good player but can get your arm around them and say listen. Get your head down. Help is oh. He's not really the big star anymore. He's been superseded by this young brilliant french guy while he's been doing all the nonsense if you're a teammate in that locker do you welcome him back with with open arms the couple of things that teammates don't do one you don't get involved in other players negotiations and contract and money situation every player takes care of their own and and you respect that as a private matter the other thing that you don't do is turn away from good players right because those guys help you win games now. There are a lot of things that you can put up with a lot of things that you can sweep under the rug and then a lot of things that you can you turn your back on when a guy comes in and gives you a better chance to win games that matter and in the end. I think that's where neymar has to come in play in games. Then matter have an impact in games that matter because if you look back over the last couple of seasons in games that matter neymar neymar either has been injured or has played well and that in itself is one thing that i think teammates will say okay all right. It's great to have you back now. We need you to baldo plato. We need you to be the name mar that we think you are and that you know you are but you gotta show it out on the <hes> so the teammates one thing gills. You're already brought up the fans sets. It's quite another ultras. Were pretty hostile towards name. N._p._s.'s first home game in the season. How's that situation going to unfold the question now obviously with international break. We won't know a couple of weeks and and you'll be interesting because it's not just these transfers saiga here and the fight they wanted to leave a lot of players want to leave their clubs and ended up. Staying and things are okay with the funds. There's a few issues that are bigger than that the first one the most recent one. He's when he said that he's biggest memory always best memory in football was famous night in buzzer. We've buster and i guess b._g. Eighteen ramon tida obviously when your ps you trial u._p._s. Defined and you hear your number ten ought to be your best player saying that he's best memory was two six one and giving you the biggest humiliation in your cubs history. That doesn't go down well. The fact is and we've talked a lot on the show by is that in the last two seasons there's been a lot of incidents involving name on the page of the pitch attitudes <hes> behaviors and all the stuff showboating anyway the for some of the fines again go down so well they the fine with cavani the pie dot nights was in favor of seventy nine february neymar the name they were chanting was one of the one of name on. I think if you produce those things together neymar himself as law things to get forgiven four by the which wasn't p._s._e. Fines and and you would have to work hard to rebuild up solve breath relationship with defined. That's going to be easy. It doesn't mean it won't happen. Pays just not gonna museum might take time shack it. Does it matter if the fans don't forgive him. I think as a player on the field if you're booing in letting their feelings there in feelings be known. I think inevitably i lead over time mm-hmm. It has an impact on the player on his psyche. The trouble is i mean football's. A results get put together some good performances. I'm sure he finds it appreciate that the difference between the funds lines and the players whereas the players willing to accept a lot as long as you continue to perform with the funds is a far more fragile relationship unshipped. They're happy to see you play well happy to see us score goals but it only takes one indiscretion one poor freeze to the media and they will tune very very quickly and once he finds to on you and they're ready. Have it's hard to get them back on your side. Well i have absolutely no sympathy for whatsoever so ever because he has brought us all and sales so sordo making get by and you can not about football club who paid two hundred hundred twenty million forum to do a job for him and he and we can all have our opinions about french football and tight almost years and blah blah blah but he choice always to go a french football. He chose that route to go to paris with money with to be the big iom right. He chose this road royd so he can he can. He's made his bed. He can lie on he can get back out there and he can do his job because he's done nothing but treat the french funds finds the fringe players in the league has some little game show that he's going to be part of until he gets us on the big move and he hasn't got so i i have no sympathy for form he can get back out there and he can take the abuse from the funds and i don't necessarily agree with ho far it went and some casey's he's but it can take whatever read it comes has way and he's going to have to suck up and he's gonna have to play. I'm gonna toward the next couple of weeks ago to be really interesting. Especially the international break week because imbaba's and judd we see when when he comes back because to craig's point nimmo left boston on him because he didn't he no longer wants wanted to be in the shadow of the messy. When we come back from international break he may very well find himself imbaba shadow and give the new saddening of cardi. Cavani comes back to full fitness. Miss is going to be a really interesting dynamic in our dresser. Well token ave cardi jill's house and how's it gonna work it cardi happy neymar cavani academy caddie endless so many options cow yeah yeah. You're right many options. I started to to find the best the best formula you'll receive them all together. We know that especially. If you add an held him to the mix we've tried to do a formation that dusted the one that you see on the screen. Now there's enough monroe county on it obviously <hes> but too much have to hold my colleagues who caveney kevin who has one year left on his contract who's out a few injuries in the last six month and if he can't he comes back to full fitness again with the right attitude and scoring goes for then you would have big chance to be assaulted that and then i guess play human and bobby pin them on one side the mario on the other side and and going to fulfill to you. You've got loads of options. I mean the permanent scores. They usually do that way. It was more to have balanced team and defend better than what they've done. Especially in the champions league. They're not few years so economy is probably a good signing again if he has the right to choose but it doesn't resolve all the issues and the flow that we've seen these team especially on the two hole having in the last year or so what is really intriguing alley. Is that locker room. I mean don't we'll give out combustible yeah and we just we just saw line opened with julian and saying that it got these not playing all right well clearly really mount kind of the has done very well in dealing with that in the past and never mind we're not even talking about his agent and his wife who becomes a central figure anywhere aware then he goes because of how influential she is and so you cannot take a godly without taking one and the truth of the matter is that she has been disruptive and monica has been disrupted so if indeed that's i know i'm already planning how many weeks go by how many games go by when when he got those on play until there is a blow of what we know of we is that the blow up is coming. It's just a matter of time if he doesn't feel like things are are cater to him now. That's one economy now. We're talking about neymar who you have to cater to him as well and who maybe feeling like wait a minute. Why are they bring in another third player. When i'm here scoring goals and then there's imbaba who has injured but when he comes back from the injury he's a star that craig is talking about. There's only one ball by the way yes surveys. There's only one the trouble has told me can go over. Well have in depth but you have to have players that are prepared to accept tipped. The rotation does not one of those four players i think will be prepared yes and law and games in france and they're expected to win some of them against the law of the table alarm around one one tournament them risk in this game. I don't think i'll be an issue when against the champions league stuff and hold on the real big stuff. You can't go before please. Jewish said they haven't got the balance to play such an attacking team so something's going to give not smith. Thomas took was problems going to be joe's is going to ask you. What's your sense of to call. Does he have the tools to deal with the situation. I don't know i i. I wish i could say yes but he looked. He looked really lost. In the last few games the defeat are and i mean was was really bad from from from him and he's coaching during the march on only starting lineup. He looked be lost. Maybe it was defied. The whole name saga was very destructive for everyone at the club and including him in the dressing room of that maybe he still doesn't know even more than a year after you arrived why is best eleven as well as best formation is even because he keeps keeps changing all the time and everything the last thing that we it's only county and one is low and although himself as a very good relationship with the holy condie clan and i think that would help a lot because if leonardo saw views is the guy who woods magdalene between one and the clad ed between ecology and to hold the also being much dan so reassuring everyone and make sure that there's a lot of piecing dressing room then it could work. If if you can't do that is more than allies right at some point is going to blow his decision making gills along easier at the other end of the kayla nervous suriving ariella going in the other direction. Derail madrid has to be a huge upgrade doesn't it it isn't a great and to hold to be fair to him. We've never narrow a fine and i think a lot of players i that i love either so i was always a very promising player. He the under twenty world cup with with our great generation of players born ninety-three like poke by for example bay never really kicked on from there and we've seen him making mistakes last season and the season before and this season as well and and clearly he was not good enough for what we are hoping to achieve one day which is winning the champions pins league and and with the money they probably would have even try to get even someone bigger or better than novice but they're finding kim says with a better keep it in their hearts with saudi second. Go keeping says you'll recall as well and all that will feel much better equipped in doc position than what they were for days before check. You love that costa rican. Keep on you i do. I think killer now without question the most underrated goalkeepers football. I think we have one of the best football no <hes> they've been looking for for for quite some time to win the champions league three times right. I mean the thing you have to say okay now is he was a perfect fit for real madrid on on what they needed when they needed him to be on you. <hes> two years ago i i was in that i think he will kutu are as a goalkeeping might be a slight upgrade on kale navas know all of a sudden you look at kuchwara and what what he's doing since arriving early blinn abou- not anywhere near as good a fit and they won't and we we see hokey lanao perform in paris but at madrid a- all we've seen of killer navas in european football without question for me one of the best in you know we on this program raising concerns about the defense yesterday but in that department tom that's that's a massive upgrade. Isn't it great. I'm surprised that typical two hours putting in front of them <hes> for real madrid. I think you know he wasn't for periods last season and decided to go with him but i actually think nevada is a goalkeeping courtois so good sign them from me. No qualms alley not at all and if your caterer now as the question that you ask ask you go to the has the airport melody way two pairs say what did i do wrong right. Why am i having to leave. What is it that i didn't do that. I didn't bring to this call. Now have have to go to p. S. g. but for him is a move to a place in which he's gonna play. He's going to be appreciate it and we will look back to their decision and thinking wait in a minute. We were busy chasing that. We'd the hair were busy chasing and all the while we had a goalkeeper here all all he did was sleep this team to three champions title. Sometimes you don't understand where the decisions are coming from while talking the champions league jewels got a relatively straightforward draw nigger. Yes they have around madrid. A gallon tanks orion <unk> the the two giants of course will be heavily favored to get through. What do you think they still possess. Arguably to the don't five plays in the game and indian name are the the automakers make them sixth favorites to win the champions league behind you a real madrid livable. Ah manchester city but julian it has to be still the main goal for the season right. It has to be all <hes> at least there has to be better than the last few seasons you know and nothing this semifinal will be the objective. They're not ready to win even with name all by his base even combat pay firing thing like we've said before the shoes over the balance of that team i think as you shoot defensively as well on the food bucks for example. I don't think that weather played on the rise. Whether that's get al mooney young young akbar or even the left with bow nuts or whoever else that's that's not good enough and not what's great in golden and certainly you would win them games. Even in the champion's league still don't think they're ready and i think the odds reflect exile and i would even put poverty at the head of them in those by munich probably level but yeah they there for me top eight without a doubt. Let's see if they can go further than than than the quarter-finals okay great stuff joe's free thousand words going read them at e._s._p._n. Don't pizza walter will be reading them. He will also joining us. Just johnny got a tweet offset when he was three and from that day on he was hooked all he wanted to do was golf golf. He'd be on the links before school after schools. All he ever wanted was to go pro and then one day when he was holding his grandson and thinking about his twelve handicap. Johnny realized it us might not happen for him but you know what did happen for him. He switch to geico and saved a bunch much of money on car insurance so that was good and so was hanging out with his grandson. These sarah awesome podcast cost latest edition has dropped me gap and nikki. I'm sure chief amongst the subjects of conversation was the incident in cantieri three of course involving out romolo lukaku shack. I wanted to get your thoughts because the italian f._a. Have announced today that is going to be an investigation underway vocabulary but this is a club schalke escaped censure many times over the last decade or so. Do you actually think this time he's going to be different. I can only we hope and and if this time is different because it follows so hotly on the heels of the moisture ken incident of of just a few months ago on that incident moisture can somehow was reason for it and his celebration which is somehow rather ridiculously added to and as a result here we are yet again talking about the same club reshoot abusing another black player this time around so now the italian efi ancog louis boxed themselves into a corner in that they have to do something to address the issue. They can't continue to keep the players as they've done. In the past i find the statement put out by calgary hall largely disappointing where as as vocal as they are about doing things and changing things the final paragraph is all about about the unfair criticism of south indian and calgary fans so awesome. They're the ones who who've been victimized here for me. Maybe suggest josh where their defense is. Good too and i hope nobody is blindsided by well. It remains to be seen what the italian f.a.s.t investigation will on earth and walk. The course of action will be if you were the head of the italian f._a. Want sort of punishment. Do you think now needs to be handed. You you have to go with a points deduction on a partial view of the stadium defined. The section of the crowd where the research chatting with was coming from and six strong action is needed because of the incidents not just moisture can ditton me back to samuel eto montanari. Something has to be done at at this point just fine. A slap on the wrist is not going to do it has to calgary brought the <hes> <hes> the families in general as part of their own defense they have to be they have to feel the wrath of the inaction or their own action action and the rooms of the minority as it were a three point deduction for food defense with the pasha closer to the stadium it it happens again six points and tag closure and continue to double down in in that regard so you close the sexiest stand directly behind the gulf coast calgary can take the bill by the homes here and take some initiative by identity we talked about in yesterday's show think was by the cameras at the games and the commerce at the stadium and with modern technology they should be able to as a club identify the individual's right and bundy individuals for life and then they tell an f._a. Deal with thunell but at least take something to talent f._a. And say here's what we've done. Is you said last year that had nothing. Here's what we've done. We've identified the culprits and they will no no longer be returning to the stadium. They are banned for life and if anybody else wants to go down national racially abusing again we're gonna do some similar on top of what's what's similar to that point though the buck does stop with the italian n._f._l. Here you we can get involved. Being a member feature can get involved if there is an action in any department. If there isn't serious action by the italian by cartridges with by the italian uefa can get involved. They can get involved because ultimately it's the those governing bodies that oversee and all and they are adding to the action and the the reason why racism continues to be a topic in two hundred nineteen thirty lessons to be learned from the way it was dealt with in england. I know it's different time and maybe towards the end of the time you guys playing. We still a problem listen. It's not going to go anywhere anytime soon and then yes england still has some issues but i think england continues to move the game forward in that regard what you have seen and i've been a part of an in england is the educational campaigns that are centered around around football shooter. Susan recently red card which involve with oh kick it out which is another aspect. I think you can go in terms of enabling action. If you have also made a point in the past that you can hand on fines own huge fines parts of parts of which were suspended on on the understanding that you go off to the offenders and advocation of campaigns around racism us you show you're satisfied yeah those criteria as a football club then you don't have to be the vast this big some of you find their ways to do these things an ultimate time whether we talkin about england soccer here in the u._s. all calgary yet again kind of acceptance or complacency around the issue as you will see it festival yet again. You have to stay on top of these things regardless of whether we believe we're moving in the right direction at points deduction. Let's see if the italian ain't f._a._a. Take your take your advice. Shanks needs to be wants to need day day. Gabrielle mccarthy's musings <hes> always available has plenty to say on the subject as well well over on the e._s._p._n. N._f._c. dot com all right. Let's talk into a little extra time. Shall we thanks once again for all your questions and tweets. Some of you are shedding a few tears for the closing of the transfer window. Peter is not prepared. Let's let it go just yet once he wants to know. Did you ever worry whenever harry harry redknapp got stopped by report and spoke spoke through the window might be off to another club and since the transfer news close the schenker have any great harry transferred a stories and agreed harry chat well as a few floating around not sure my lawyers would love you to repeat he was busy. You have depends on the issue at hand correct. I if you have a lot of these specialists john easy easy onset to the first part of that question wrong wasn't no trying to window when you were a corporate us right ooh bing bong yeah. When did it come in ireland. Remember when we were in england. You could move anytime via. I moved up with a monster. Some that's my made the move in resemble nine thousand nine yup to back the county primarily from celtic so the voice of new idea. I wanna say early two thousands now or something something because i moved to ninety nine in december so it wasn't too those none six well. I thought i thought no not for the two thousand six it was. What about your team your lawyer. I'll have to consider them. My i'm having a confirmed to threes when it came in so i am talking about the glory years of transparent <hes> it seemed to involve harry redknapp jason maloney changing the subject <hes> wants to know the best game ever lost as a play is such a thing but i guess the feel forced forced to onto on what what would it be playoff two thousand. I want to say four thousand three with the l._a. Golics two thousand three with the galaxy aleksei against san jose earthquakes where we were leading our four nothing from us the aggregate. Oh we've lost the infamous fire fall we were we won. The first i came to nothing. We were leading the second game. Do nothing however if away goals have counted as a way goals do then we would have gone away would've gone thrown. I wanna wake believe has come to be known as the san jose ramon todd that's. That's what it's come to be known as the the p._s._e. Dr ali's lawyers. Did you have a good. I play on the newcastle-liverpool four threes. Oh yeah one one of those two or three of those yeah through the middle one on and did you have anything to do with the goals. Probably four one past blew it to be honest. I'm paula scored the fourth <hes> that's all. I remember craig scotland england euro aeroplane too well but we won he won but he lost wh why bring them. Thank you in brazil go. Ali bacteria and i was clinton wasn't light. We bought brazil and lost what we gave them. A game on. We lost ten ongoing wanna jumpings but l. dangling game was boys yet. That was probably the hottest take they've added. They lost two now. I mean because obviously such a buildup for lightning agron win england scotland called the winner qualifies the for euros for the playoffs estim- custom kevin keegan's image of the ogden to know pokes goals goals and then we'd be one don hutchinson as you remember and then david it's seamen made up ten point safe from diving header near the end it just hang on the line in enough otherwise it would have been going to extra time episode clinging on clinging on that angle hamas about yeah. He just wanted to bring that up. I was talking to one of the english journalists from the way upstairs after the game i because i know most of the english guys have been played down there and they said that kevin keegan had just been to the press conference and talked about england engelen wynonna euros and he said we've just been cleared off the pocket. We don't we didn't just be one. No we have them doing and they didn't come close to winning five years awful yeah pretty much into keegan wants to win. Win is craig. Actually i should correct mikhail here went off aw craig and steve going to get their own podcast like gavin jewels could burn crack. Everyone's doing it. Why here's how it works with a group. I'm hoping not putting well jennifer. I'll make sure we don't go out there and lay other busybodies a hands-off for things that we don't need to be done right. Paw take off the e._s._p._n. A._f._c. joe podcast. We don't go. We don't go looking like other very very busy people for things to do. When we have a job. Don't go looking for things that would take you off. The gulf goals meanwhile while contact. Sorry give me while that's not the end of request extra cream cream. Villi material cottage loved his tweets video when he's the boiling point the shale not by life company by me. Can you just reach the boiling point and asking for extra things to do and then when they give extra thing to do you say new tax as you know every week awhile and then i switched off the watches mean tweets video area currently i. I haven't seen it on youtube that or the boys just do not very original said there are some that you said you wanted to do. Some mean tweets again the the boys. The problem is not original content <hes> for what was i going to say no all right <hes> funny boiling one point two yeah yeah might soon start was in serious. This planet was to get some advertising around to get someday sponsor however it was slated you too controversial to get your boiling all his points out the window. Bring it back for a youtube. Channel does not a boil in the bag rice company. That didn't step up to the well actually marketing yo uh presentative. Hey here's uncle ben's boiling deaths alley. You've it just with a bunch of your ex teammates the the crew reunion funniest teammate and one <hes> <hes> well. You've gone back to columbus crew frankie hejduk. I don't know if he's the funniest but he is an interesting character. Whoever knows frankie hater notes exactly what i'm talking about <hes> <hes> surfer dude who happens to play soccer hit yeah i say and and this is the name that people may not be familiar with but going back to philadelphia and there was a guy by the nick zimmerman who was great with impressions and at that point we need to be happy sure jeff sessions including one of our coach at the time. Peter novak was outstanding. <hes> <hes> chagga join mccoo. You remember it yeah he was when i never knew never knew what you're going to get the job but he was good he was good for not latino is free you can do a street of chris brown's the on yes. It's just your shop quick dry really good for our good good suggestion really good. Oh you remember for his glory days which was swindon all right. Glenn macho swindon glory is go hand in when we asked about shocking the point you know say oh. He couldn't catch anything. I can touch uh-huh craig anyone well yeah bring to mind yeah john spencer orients benny now <hes> chelsea used to destroy people threading joe's heart the law honestly. There's no nobody was spared john. You're a funny guy go in me. He then went into management here and this is a picture of him as as a manager because even though she isn't anymore we should we should <hes> we shall avis used to rip the boys and address movement was my assistant coach in houston loosen and then to still ripping yeah. <hes> hector finally brought this up. <hes> previously did allie shed a couple of tears in columbus this weekend at the gathering of the legends well. It was great a lot of love a lot of appreciation as i say look don't j. does not impressing the background. I really the truly not impressed as to when i came home and realize you don't love me nearly as much at home and they didn't call came to scotland once on the coleman trade with better. Actually it was hamilton home. Tom stadium embezzling the dog here how stadium as it's an old dilapidated stadium and behind the goals those a supermarket hell l. where people can actually watch the game with a right. It's a policeman up. There might have said something. That nearly got me in trouble but the policeman iniciativa n._j._i._t. Washington go anywhere there was a dog and the dog was the thing that dog was fishing says the games buds games. Is that the dogs. No people go to reprimand a reprimand talking scottish football football up on my where which is a critique. That's followed you did say about the police. Officer was multiple robberies. Don't hamilton is i believe the superintendent was technically. You got told in my ear. No more jokes about the game can help shot so you shed a couple of days and the dog shed. A couple of pounds is going aw alright yeah. He's your <hes> you extra time for today. Suggests it will be one tomorrow. If we get questions that we will quietly confident. <hes> peter walton is on tomorrow by the way we'd be on extra time but he will be on the show.

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Gab and Juls: Should UEFA wait on a UCL return?

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1:07:53 hr | 4 months ago

Gab and Juls: Should UEFA wait on a UCL return?

"It's the most wonderful Thursday in April because I do certain and you're laughing and we're as good you go welcome back. It's the golden jeweled show. First of all I know your time for this and we're waiting for this I do have visas memorabilia on to To introduce you to put this on my God Utah. What that is yes metrostars. Your favorite team ever is an original New York New Jersey Metrostars from the nineteen ninety. Six season I was there was a partial season ticket holder. I was there when I go mentions before I just mentioned again because it gets funny. The first goal in the history of the New York New Jersey Metrostars of course would later become New York something owned by some fizzy drinks brand and cherry was scored and it was an own-goal by Mykola Cutty Cola former. You've ain't and body defender so I was there that could be. I bet copies worth worth the law. I don't think there's many left surely forty five cents on Ebay. Come on now we should get Charlie Stillitano on and see. Certainly if he wants to buy back off me opens a museum. 'cause they will do that eventually. You should send. They would be looking for those. Let's talk about what's happening around Europe. Because UEFA are having their not meeting their video conferences. This week on Tuesday they went with a fifty five member associations on Wednesday. They met in your cynical. You might say will. This is what really matters with the Clubs Association and the League's little later today whereas we're keeping his Thursday morning there's the executive committee are GonNa meet our understanding. Is THAT EASIER LINES. GonNa be guys. It's too early to go and really decide anything. And there's not gonNA be any real update a salad. Some people think is a bit of a softening originally was reported that you know when I was around the time that Belgium stopped playing at the beginning of April Dan. We're pretty strong signal. No you're not you should finish the league and I was skeptical. If you'll recall and I said let you a fog saying you have to do it. Otherwise you'll be kicked out front get pressure from Leagues Leagues and clods want to. They really WANNA start buying. They WANNA be seen to make every effort to start planning again and so if on top of that you have you saying guys who better start playing. Otherwise we can't get into your squad the Jenkins Zig next year. Then that's in their interest but even today with the line. I think coming out some this statement. What is you know we would They were told they would like some to finish the league's softening up and we just saw Holland on bow out the government saying no Organiz football until September the gather the Dutch. Fa that can be during the respond to this on Friday. But it looks like they're done to interesting. I is now a forbidding decision making by football authorities but by the government who said. I don't care if your football hockey. And why would they? You know it's just there will be no SFOR not that kind of sport until a certain date so then you have to follow while your government is saying and I think people forget that is not whoever eventually will decide is neither you are the league's Gal The SERYAL Detained Federation of French. Finish on. It will be the government's and the Health Minister for example. GonNa say did not seem to be playing with complex until so and so I mean the world had forgotten. Ization fought for what it's worth said. Yesterday I was reading that you shouldn't play football until two thousand twenty one the end of twenty twenty one so he ended up twenty twenty one. Twenty twenty one. So what what yeah. Maybe that's pushing your bed. I would also. Yeah but it just shows you. I think eventually the decision will be taken out by anyone in football but it was inevitable. I think that the desk would stop. It was make easy by the fight as well as they've got no crabs left in Europe which I think is an issue number Scotland. Isn't it with Rangers being in Europe? Elite Khan really finish the season front. Just have some games to play in Europe for example in in August. Yeah obviously Scotland. They're gonNA They were due to take a vote. And it's been held up in you know it's a bit of a massive skull also gets all Rather political as well Also because I correct me if I'm wrong. South to cabinet mathematically wanted to title Scotland Right. No yeah and I wonder what they're gonNA do as well in in Holland because those very very tight at the top level as the NYACK so yeah. I'm really give goal difference or can you like I don't know where they're gonNA decide. I think that would be stupid to give you feel about golden goal. Yes I ahead is demented. If teams finish level on points or something significant you should have a one eight playoff but hey. I've been arguing that for a long time People don't take no no difference or or they call them. Us goal differential of any just sounds completely stupid anyway Show about this planning in Inaugu. I think people are getting way ahead. Plenty Championship final. Him People are getting way way ahead of themselves here. They're like you know your wife decided. The Champions League final will be on the twenty seventh of August and start flying again on the third of August these are just areas jewels In fact my understanding is you look at it like we just WanNa get out of the way and let the league's finish if they WANNA finish if they can't finish and then we'll come in later because obviously you've got You have international travelers often. Uefa competition so the singlets. You know. We'll go to the back of the queue. Body Watt if if everybody could be as good as the Germans and come back and play and finish everything wrap everything up by June thirtieth. And there's a chancer you wait for the rest of the Champions League in July or even earlier if it were safe to do so concurrently with domestic competitions. I'm sure they would jump at the option. Nobody wants to pushes further down the route. Yes definitely. It's just. I think they have to put structure in place and realistically. If we're being honest Germany report be the only country right now the only league at least in the big leagues that we were able to finish on June. The furniture right everybody else if they can start that young if if if if you want to resume if you can resume nothing would be. What is very unlikely that any other league apart from Germany would be able to finish by during the search yet so you if I've been Kevin just said okay. Maybe they've got the best the best scenario possible and they also have the worst and the worst is probably finishing address paying jobs so it was Did you see the the document that the German Bundesliga circulated the extreme detail with lots of long German words said about two hundred forty players people per mount? Ask you look at this now. Looks like it's more than three hundred. There's examples about how far apart they all have to stand. I think logistically. This is really really really tough to get older as say yes lemon coming up and saying like. Oh you know we could have twenty million Serena instead of sixty five. Oh one of the six hundred twenties okay because they can sit three sits upon you know what you're talking about. Dr Lehman is one of mine. Him a list of a favorite Germans which isn't a very long time speaking top yet. It's not they're not German. They're Australian sorry so Now Albert Einstein is he's he's a very good germs germs. We like to Christoph Metzelder one or two others is the opposite of that list. I really don't like to do. I really didn't like him as a player. It's nothing personal now that I'm starting to hear him speak. It became a little personal. After the Italy Germany semifinal not the goal goes into make it to nail and he goes in any just like you know you might do you just two goals in three minutes you loser. And then he goes and he kicks out at I think it was the you know. I also heard those stories. You might notice because this is arsenal lore about how. He was very mean to Manuel Muneer when he was there and he made me cry. Because looney is a sensitive challenges tough you know I. It's just tough. That's tough man through. If it's tough back it up dude you couldn't carry Oliver Kahn's jaw and you know that and you were terrible when you came to Italy. Back when Sadie? I was back when we were kings. You are you became a running joke okay. Now of what I joke. I nothing against was one of my favorite players but achieving medical advice. Let's have twenty thousand citizens. Do just just just shut up. I know we all over and I know we all go out in different directions and we got about. But you know your way out of your lanes. Oh you know. Take cuts are settle. A big issue got a report that Chelsea have have reached an agreement although no announcement yet to help me with this because they said that they're going to take a ten percent pay cut on their monthly wages for the next four months yet show. I did a little bit of math. And it's basically a three point three percent pay-cut on their annual salary. But this is an actual pay-cut it's not a deferment. Yes Yep thing was twelve and a half percent on their annual wage so the arsenal people were asked to get back four times as much money. Obviously with bonuses. There was a chance they could get some of that back if they qualify for the Champions League which the obviously weren't maybe the euro believe could possibly who knows right so huge disparity isn't that it is but I guess you negotiate our said our speed equates was the one negotiating on behalf of the Chelsea squad extra bellary was the one negotiating on on the on behalf of the Austin was quite every club. Have One representative negotiate with with the clubs. I guess you do you do as best as you can. For the interest of your players your squats yours wants to have the club. I really refused to believe that anyone who plays for Aston Chelsea Wofford. Whoever why the club doesn't want to have the crab in in this concentration even does it? I think he had his reasons for not agreeing that Baker. We'll talk about that in a bit but so I think you're base. Initially our still Jesse wanted thirty percent Baker for the players the negotiating down to ten. You could always said I could have done more. Some have done at all so it's a tricky one. I mean I think that thirty percent of course wasn't on the annual wages and I think it was a combination of of deferred of deferred wages up since then but what I find interesting in. Let's get. Let's get to Oslo here because Dude's not particularly popular to begin with right partly because he earns a phenomenal amount of money is one of the three highest paid players in the early he's performances haven't been terrible Been pretty consistent. Sibling hasn't lived up. He hasn't performed like one of the three best players You know even his friends and relatives would would agree with that yet. He obviously had that. Falling out with your buddy emory right. Ca He he has the big crime. You lose playing well. It's a crime in England of sometimes looking disinterested bank which people love making a huge deal out of it was obvious that when it turns out that he rejected this negotiated proposal. It was obvious he would be crucified. The Jews he's not the only one do three arsenal players who said no to this but funnily enough do you WanNa tell me who the other two were. So there's actually only two or three And I would have advised about this for the website later today with Solvency II story of the whole thing to three under the second one. I'm not going to tell you now. So does name kids dragged through the mud. Yeah yeah yeah so the other ones. Yeah the flag for for the for the other one as well. He listened they at the beginning of the negotiation. There was half of the squad who rejected the first proposal by the club so it was not just measure. It was a lot of other players who wanted to negotiate seeing. That wants to be more time to think about it. They want you to go so to see to know a bit more by the current financial situation of the crab which you can understand your money in the bank. While would you accept the fake For example if they've got enough money to survive crisis economic status but eventually Dan to score of twenty seven. Only to as you said it's rejected the offer. One B Moser. He has his reasons. He says I believe is that he gives a lot to charity. Even without when it's not the pandemic does a lot for people biking Turkey in Germany. Anyway headed off children. Who are needs? There's nothing so. He says he already does. Law Dot Means Rhinitis is different is charity in the pure sense of heads. Homeless trump is not running charity really. It's no no but in the business helping your club. The business been paying you for so many years now and you could see the argument of what people are. Cross with him for not helping out. You clearly didn't feel like he needed. He's taken here's a here's the thing right and I don't want to stress this very clearly. His agent on came and he spoke to a little buddy Colleague Raff hunting sign on podcast for the athletic on Monday and he came out and he's he. He stressed and I stress this again because the students a lawyer normal hanging. On what I think of lawyers and Houllier's he's not speaking specifically about the case. Who Speaking in general yet is the way the clubs are going about. This is is frankly wrong. These are individual contracts. There's no collective bargaining. They tried to collective league-wide bargaining. Obviously that didn't work and that you should go and negotiate. Individual pay cuts would each player Instead what they're doing is they're nominating. One Guy for Chelsea was that was accounted for Arsenal. I guess it's better rate. Forgive me I get so confused about who the Arsenal captain is. Because I thought there were five million. Always new negotiations because because battery knows how to use the WHATSAPP machine November. He hadn't presumptive. Oh Okay Yeah A player to go basically negotiate on behalf of the other players and in some cases he pointed out you also get manager which again reportedly I don't know how involved are tactile was but certainly from what writing i. I don't know if you can confirm this attempt also got involved in the players to take yet and we're giving them advice on the deal. I this kind of a gigantic icing conflict of interest. We have the situation that you've interests or it's Josiah Collini was out of contract. Who's negotiating on behalf of the players? I'm sorry if it's negotiation. It's negotiation heck. You're balancing is qualified to speak Hector Baylor as far as I know Hector Bellary canarian talks the squad's right players in the squad soon. Listen I don't feel comfortable with these. We should do this and other ones said yeah thinks about we could do differently. This goes back to the club. It's not just him Messiah Mindsets Right. No I'm not saying it's the signing by himself but people I think who any Gauchan who know what the situation is who knows what the club situation is or qualified to go and make that decision and the point and this is why. I'm not fan of May Souso Not as a person who applies but his agent had a very good point. Never said I'm not going to take a pay cut. He always said I'm willing to defer my wages. Don't pay me now. Let's see what the figures are later when the figures come out and we actually consensus with economic hit. And I think that's a really really good point yet now. This guy is being crucified. Left right and center but you know why he has a point. He's being asked to take a permanent pay. Cut Our your were twelve months. Pay is overpaid or does that. That's not his fall without knowing what the actual damage to arsenal is arsenal. Don't because they don't know if they're gonNA start. The season haven't run the numbers they haven't had access to the numbers. I think I'm you know wearing my union hat. I think he's the same one here. All these other people who are just giving away money willy. Nilly it's one thing if you accept a deferment it's one thing if you accept three percent pay-cut whatever right Schlosser but to go and take such a big pay cut if your arsenal without knowing why you're taking this pay cut any evidence without any assessment of what it does for your club I think is firmly is is is frankly unfair and I think ozil stance and the one of the other mystery person. You may reveal. Labor is is the correct one but you need to need some visibility as clever as what else does for every club. Not just awesome Claire. You can't just say okay. Maybe you need to know where you stand in terms of how much money you've available. How much money you said. Yeah but if you if every lawyer says okay let's take a for now and then we will see later may be six weeks eight weeks. Twelve weeks in sixteen weeks said okay. Potentially we've saved this but we shall. We might have saved these or or maybe we've saved. Maybe this maybe we will have the money back in four months maybe to monitor. This is not clear enough. If you agree or something whether I defer a pay cut whatever at least you know the clubs and they can deal with it and they can plan for the next few weeks few Johnny nodules because if there's a girl the club know exactly what they're saving themselves now. Right clubs aren't going and spending as much in wages in the next three or four months in four months time when they add up all the numbers when we know exactly how much they've lost they can say. Okay guys you're going to get back this much money or you know what you're not going to get back any money because we've lost more than we anticipated clubs. Don. I don't see what the issue here is with Arsenal based but let's play all the players who are money back so you'll have to pay them wages for that month plus the last four months of wages deferred as well you you make you. You agree certain parameters right you say okay in four months time in six months time. We're GONNA GO BACK AND WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA be able to show you players. Look we lost twenty percent of revenue in this period because of this monster no gates here and whatever else and so we would like you to take a twenty percent. And then you'll be you agreed beforehand. You're GonNa take a twenty percent cotton wages or or whatever it is right you create a formula slush while other clouds of time and I think it's the most reasonable way of joining rather than just agreeing. I'm talking from the perspective. Yeah otherwise you give away your money. I mean look I mean you can make a case of those. Hey why don't you get money back since you play young play to your salary? That's fine. I feel a little sorry for the way he's been hung out to dry. He's been outed so to speak as the source of all evil and I just don't Jus I should have introduced him at the top of the show but What now God thing is. He's showing demand at the time. We weren't sure he was able to come on. But thankfully is the talk a little bit of Newcastle. Look it's a non cova nineteenth story how about that? He's like oxygen arguing guys so mark we're going to get into new council. There's a ton going on your writing about their prospects of doing a man city didn't seem a little fanciful but That there's issues oversee with Amnesty International. Would be in sport but before we get into that. I want to ask you about the other story you did. The one footballers and Michael House. Yeah the survey round on Saturday to all the members about plasma health had coping with the corona virus. Should that it's been five weeks now since the football was suspended in in England so The pay if I get a lot of criticism for obvious reasons because she has been in position for over thirty years both Takes a lot of money for doing so. The pay of members numbers name of Kobe. Nineteen Mile helpline that God. Twenty four seven hotline in some of the questions in the survey. Quite you know quite direct. Have you considered self harm? Abuse of the Depression. Given the lockdown defender likes lead awfully quiet Apparently voting out some coffee responses in between January first on March first this year they had to. The ninety nine members plays concerts in the headline so it shows the within the gadoe issues of mental health. Which you know technical overload because you know football is a sport played by young healthy athletes. Go people forget about the the mental emotional side as well. The two hundred nine hundred responded web before the corona virus is so genuine. I Mazda too much I I agree. I think time to clearly different now. People have multiple willing to talk about problems. Mohi multi pro football is spoken that was worn clog was one of the leading fixing the PF. So I think most accents releases more of the modern day way of thinking that they will talk about the problems with it. So you know to to nine hundred ninety three months law not using before the actual grown virus outbreak spike. So he's going to be more much during this period of his notes writing so I think the PF. I deserve credit for doing this. I mean I imagine clubs as well as keeping consultant every basis. That applies That the how this that applies to access is a good thing to have a party Over to professionals counselors and Cadillac is a The the network support and that is I think is a good thing in the sense that a lot of people striking this football is different than the similar thing and it was the results. Were quite worrying as where one player ten I think they did they ask. They decided sixteen hundred men and women and the resort was Squat. Frightening one off ten was anxious. Aw Aw film felt depressed anxious by the lack of football the lack of knowing when you would come back playing the money worries of course for for love. Demonstrating smaller clubs and things like that. And I think something drastic seriously and crabs hop psychologists for some of them. I can can actually call up a videophone code with two. Maybe tried to eat those executives also issues as well as which would raise the question about plays. The Australian said get out of bed. You're in a lot down and you don't really work and you can have a lion. Bamboo being able with the bag is a sign of you know possible depression if if if people losing their the daily routine instruction that not getting by But nine says he said so quite detailed survey with questions in it just just Look after the well being football you know that people say that football is a sixteen years old David retire. The five dollars have to grow open. Mail is the real world full so much unfolding behalf meal's cooked falls Plan that they get opening training grinded told what to do. So whether it home left devices in half the money themselves lies on quits to do that because they've never had to do it so you know. A lot of people have little sympathy. Football's because the well paid to look after they have the best of everything built. You know different so many other people in the street. There's a parallel I think sometimes with people in in military As well who also have that same level of structure then sometimes struggle when they transition out of it I wish it stress it. This isn't just vollers Employers people all walks of life for the situation now whether their home or their third loader. They can't work not people start with with this. A lot of companies provide the support network for their for their employees. I I went to Newcastle. There's two strands of this. There's a whole political dimension involving Saudi Arabia But before we get to that I wanNA address what you're writing about in the column which is basically doesn't really matter. As Saudi Arabia's Sovereign Wealth Fund is richer than Abu Dhabi's. It's not pissing contest. The reality is should be very difficult for Newcastle to replicate Man City. Right up separately. I mean basically. The drawbridge has been pulled up on on wealthy illness coming in and just spending freely to to get the best players in the world you know. We sold at Chelsea outside with approximate. An months came along. Did it different level? A deaf. Roy is still owners doing the same thing now. Obviously one of the reasons was just being runnings about Musi dot net if you will a Saudi prince and shake then you can afford to spend alive but it's if new customers either the next season I wasn't going to be the best place in the world then it's not GonNa Happen to have to balance the books clearly. They're going to be a moment of them to Mike. Actually generate more commercial incompatibility global. Hopefully if people think that they're going to go shopping list of the best five players the Wildenstein X. Y. Zadie. It's not GonNa Happen Mark before you said if people think that Newcastle saying fans thinks that. That's that's what you shouldn't. Yeah there's one thing I've learned on social media and to prepare for the backlash Newcastle fans. Like most hate to be patronized I I was when I'm always shocked in this country. How every time the National News Media Bring News Newcastle Fans? So it's like. Wow the passion of the fans of George Georgie. Army of Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. And make it seem like there are a bunch of deluded idiots. That was under Ashley and that is now with this money. Do you really think you really get a sense. That fans haven't looked at the local paper Newcastle because he was called the chronicle. If I'm not mistaken here are haven't hung out on Newcastle Fan Forms that I'm sure you have in nutrition story Are there people saying that? Like oh look now all of a sudden this guy's richer than has meant sore so we're GonNa go and do this and that I mean are they deluded or are they just saying. Hey look. We're glad that Mike Ashley has gone anybody's better than Ashley. And this guy's got a few. So we're not going to be insolvent. Well I wouldn't say that the Ludi but I think that almost fifteen years have been owned by my cash Funds so desperate full. That will spend money every football funds once known as spend money. But it's not as simple as spending money to have to get to balance the boats in a not spend more than then Newcastle right now. The most that the commercial rone's tiny compared to most privilege those Israeli growing into my coffee so it can be developed that and then he can stand on the. Yeah I do think there's a sense of maybe it's missing. Suppose you believe the the days come weather can compete like they did in the nineteen nineties when he saw Sprayer not going to happen and that is what they have to overcome. Which is the second issue which allow people overlooking the Stick from new. Customers is the players tend not to want to go to Newcastle. If they do. They want to leave fairly quickly. Now Kevin Keegan even in his days when he was signing He found it difficult to place Newcastle because the woes great. It's but so far from London in terms of you know. She should three hour training for the very few DARA FLASH OF NEWCASTLE TO TWO POINT Zero to Madrid where it all the big players who wants to fly by ACE Gatien isolate instead. Sian Robert when Kingston Robot League from Nineteen hundred to tell Robert. Ley Don't worry. Don't Middlesex New Catholics closer London when clearly is about fifty miles from the north so Newcastle Geographical Issue which the fund difficult again so patronizing ideas football. Louise Flooding Milan from Paris is either what was going to do. The from the from the are they find that if they goes along the list rather can do all sorts of can shut can sightsee can begin living quite possible in new castle the limited what they can do on a Japan genus said when he left new custody goldfish. Bali very suffocating. Pleasure play select because there's one club sits on the funds are the passionate funds in custody they care about Newcastle Moaning new night and it can be difficult for football to live in that environment. The good thing I think would be very clever and tried to players out of contract because that will be easy financial fair. Play if you even if you give a big signing on fee and be wages the seizure to to put that in your book and just going spent hundred twenty million on on someone on top of the wages and the the agencies and etcetera etcetera but the issue state the same. I don't I don't I don't know if merchants or some Kevin you would want to go to Newcastle east of the career. When he can have won the contract somewhere near the thing is. You're the funny thing is that they literally have every agent from everywhere in the world according to try to sell the place because right now the only club with money while we've potentially can spend money and the love money in this concentration is then well at least. That's what agent believe so you've got from our stolen for. You've got a pretty much people with big players and thus far enough making contact and this and placing themselves in the players but also agents are you and me who have rubbish second lower tier players. Who still trying to say. Hey what about my boy you know? He could do a good job for. You is a must being credible being oppressive BINDER CLIP. Not An also trying to think about why you you could go next in terms of recruiting. This happened a month under shame on so they. They use an agent today domestic big mistakes in the first two or three years w ownership because they lead themselves. They had sued the code Iraq salary acquisition strategy. Why they had to sign a lot of place Race to different level despite a lot of money wasted thought rookie sunset cruise paid way over the OT barely play on such a nice guy of exotic mistakes made a new customer. Who's never mistake Alexi? Somebody else mentioned somebody else talk undergrowth. Rubio thank you. They go unless Newcastle of of the Small People. In place that no straightaway. What mistakes can imagine if they're GONNA if they're gonNA bring you? People aren't familiar with football. They risk being exploited for two years before the mistakes in public mistakes. So for now Charnley there. I'm assuming he's GonNa go when When when the noise gesture yesterday on the United States I short nose a lot of people at Football. She broker this deal and she broker the city deal. I'm assuming in intervening ten eleven years especially since she's going to have a financial stake in the club. She obviously intelligent person. You would have to put some faith that she could bring the right people in running and it becomes a question about but I mean in terms of the appeal of Newcastle or not. I think money helps a lot in settling anywhere. If you're a superstar built one thing I found is I think a lot of it is the profile of the player show if you bring in a young footballer with a young wife or girlfriend or whatever Who who likes big city life? Then that's one thing in my experience. A lot of the people have gone to the northeast whether to to Newcastle Middlesbrough. Sunderland people who maybe you know are in your late twenties and this might not be who you WANNA track. But who has who have young Young families who got wives you give them a big house in the countryside was an indoor swimming pool. The order up the storm. You get him a satellite. They should watch TV from home. They're happy as a pig. Honestly like okay. So you're the sporting director you're trying to sign okay. Got Labor warranty right. I'm not saying that for sporting reasons. That's not what we WANNA sign. But what I'm saying is a lot depends on. The that will be mild. Then up I'm saying is not everybody's unhappy in the northeast not every foreign player or even English player. It depends on the profile of what they want if they want to go and play golf and if they want the big house in the countryside to ride horses or whatever the hell then then they're fine. I mean I go back even jug archer. Yeah let's let's as an example. Wgn Let you know he was a great player at Newcastle. He and he's from after two years they they wanted out can loan because Mondays. Attractive place to live of course but not everybody's in a lot of players to live in Manchester right back but I hate. I hate talking to customers. 'cause I love. I think customer great city but I. I'm from the north place the I like and book I've not Original formula and if you if you and your family living Newcastle and yes it's a great of rural the world if your wife wants to shock into the Metro. Censorship kick bold and it's not like going region straight it is possible you have to invest in the place. Nobody Salon de ten twelve years invested in the place a lot of places. Don't they find it even even British Down South they find it. Difficult the northeast because it said different different live living in you have to be invested in on. I don't think many of them off the top of the Because I want to move on a little bit to the ownership issue. Obviously Amnesty International wrote to the primarily They voiced a lot of concerns over over the Saudi government. I WanNa get into political discussion. But obviously there's been all sorts of human rights allegations. There's a lot of questions. There is a lot of concerns. I don't WanNa go down the vicious cycle of boundary because then people will bring it up about Bobby Qatar whenever personally? I think it is slightly different kettle of fish when it comes to Saudi but I was struck by Richard Masters. Who's the head of the primarily now? His response wear to Amnesty International. She made public or the public where was making public which is basically like to paragraph response and he came out and he said but we have a very stringent fit and proper persons test. We can't talk about it now. Go Away essentially. I'm paraphrasing. Would he be better off not responding at all? Because he's opened. The IT makes people you know investigating more than the scrutinise even greater now on people will say well they person says. Will you allow toxin offer to take over Not many as when you know his regime. Tyler was on the brink of collapse for a variety of reasons. They allowed in bank is the Blackburn owner. Shoe you WANNA football club. So the FIT and proposes. Tested doesn't seem to apply but it well in terms of business logic all CHARISSA. So let's see what happens to the Saudis but you're right I mean people will talk about because there are regimes with similar political record. So it's difficult to know. Some football is run by money at the end of the day that using years. Now we're talking about essentially government buying into the personally not ever prompt anti-government buying into football because it happened at Account ECON change the bills off with if you can grandfather's amendment you can say this is really bad. This isn't good and let's go forward and maybe we encourage you know even man city if you wanted you shook. Mansour has it's not all money belongs to Abu Dhabi United Group. He is a personal fortune. You could if you want it to go to them and say listen find other investors overrated finding on investors who got the Chinese got silverlake in maybe menstrual investing it. Personally maybe it's others Welsey mates. It just wanted to natural government. It's the sovereign wealth fund. That is the money of the people of that country as well. This situ stressed the fact they told me in the is owned by What would you call it? A personal equity play so he's been shaped muscles. Postal thinks that was stressing not owned by the epidemic is owned by Abu Dhabi United Group. It is does shake months. Oy Is w netted group belong to shake mentor? I was told many years ago. By W that's IT WAS SHAKES. Personal equity play on your. I wish these people you know I honestly this is my problem with calms. People either. Saved straight or shut the hell up. Sorry they have to reflect that position though in the balance and fairness but okay fine but their positions where they told you twelve years ago. Why can't you tell me? How much is it mentors? Who Does belong to Abu Dhabi group? Who who does it belong to? What is it a state secret? Wbz that was the transaction at the time and Abu Dhabi United Group does not belong to Mansour. Sounds like this. Sounds like inside ever missile? Look all right last question for you log for me anyway. If I'm Steve Bruce Looking at real estate listings elsewhere or time would it looked at a place in Riyadh. I think wise. Not so yeah. It's all those years he is. You know the guy that is in the position right now but he knows that. If you've got wealthy wants to make a statement Steve. Bruce great players wasn't Monday night in the early nineties. Tax is not a sexy nine so Saudi owners they will want as Jones wrote Pacino. Allegra-d these top quality products that are available state Graphic Jumping ship and keep them in the primarily. Both adults will want they will want an electoral politics. They know all the whoever else is the Big Star Style rise in Europe so. Yeah if I was Stephen Recess. Start looking around at the next Come after puts chain on her leg. Read your column today. 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But she's got June boerum and goal John Sal g Johnson Lan and Celia humanities at the back revealing Jane Jason Sophie Young and Janet Jaffe in Midfield and up Front Ellen Metro Youngson and a Sufia. Jakobsen does interesting so mcgann got on. Who'S ARE FIT for? Listen always sends his women's team as well as a slightly different Four three three formation you. Ns the German got keep in Gold Jonsdottir. James Johnson and juicy rather Brazilian defender. Back four in midfields Sofiane. Gay said Yeah Human is from Spain and Juice on you like Sophie Hannah in the front. Three of Jacobsen Jens and renaissance in as well from from Holland so again to very impressive women's eleven. What about yours got? I think it would probably lose to team but in goal I was I was very tempted by your son. But then I said not can't have too many German pleasing so instead I went with former whole city. Legend Alvin Yakubovitch Lesser Right. Now I write back the phenol my country. 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I need some rather unpleasant words to say about your boy. Neeman was he willfully misquoted. By needle media wasn't because when he was in English to us Videoed so we we've seen it. I've seen it and your rights wasn't his evil twin brother. Fabio who smoked it wasn't it wasn't until A name are GONNA handle. The pressure is now a leader. Don't take doesn't take criticism. Well issued behave of the field because of the failed. He's basically doing whatever he wants. And that's no good. That's not why that's why he's not better on the big. I mean I was. I was was upside gobsmacked by roughly how to sail name isn't no by the way I guess. Rafael has a couple of Brazil. Cats maybe but yet to be play twice name out and I said the other time they played was against him. And I'm like wow okay so if you ever dreamed again offering for Brazil that you can forget about it. That's fiery says your man Orson forgive. I think he could buy a ticket to get into the park. The prompts the staff and to okay. Maybe you could comment on Namuz pro life and what he does off the field and the partying and stuff like maybe and his sister's birthday yet but nothing says that he would play. It will be a better player if less parting example. I Dunno maybe. Rafael will be a better play. Area will be too hot if he was spotting and be based on on the name is leader. Elite doesn't have to be someone who shouts a lot and talks in the dressy elite. There can be someone who's the best team? Technically Brazilian sedan was Francis Leader for eleven years and it was not saying anything in the dressing room. You could not hear his voice so it's not because Neymar is not the loudest in the dressing room days now. A leader so I think that's complete. Bs and under criticism if his criticism matic name I would probably take it and use it. If he's coming from someone like I don't think he will care. It'll god Rafael. If you're listening you've upset jewels yeah. I just didn't think it was needed. Well talking about criticism Rome Lukac who has been entertaining us to law with his frequent instagram alive during the confinement begun God. He's in a bit of trouble with inside isn't it remains an intelligent guy. He's fixed freely and sometimes moving talk a lot and I certainly know this. You end up saying things that you wish you had inside He was talking about you. Know the impact of Corona virus. Everybody else said. Oh you know at one point. I think you said like more than twenty in our team had the flu. And maybe they had the corona virus we did. Noves are protesting. It's a bit upset here because I think rightly wait. We monitor all our players are athletes. We had four players who had selection. Tim's modern had corona virus and. I think they built this. I think everything resolve now. He's not going to be punished by the club as some people wrote. They absolutely laws Lukaku. He's not going on the naughty step but it is a did pricers reminder that we can talk about health matters. Maybe let's kind of watch what we say whether he's half joking or not you know. Words weigh heavily especially at this time. Especially when you're talking about going back to playing football a lot of concerns about whether you can do so safely to us today so today right Two more stars breaking lockdown jewels. Please tell me what these people have in common churchyard and Soco Alexander Granite Shocker Nicholas pipping Godfrey Louise. All of these people have been busted. The last four were doing kickabout together. The first two screwing around oriented by the way out the first time he's done. Can you tell me what the pattern here or do I need to spell it out for? You know leaving in north London now. They're all either French or they speak French. Reiver's one of them. These are underscored how they picked up. Louise Learn to do this when he was in Paris. August let's not follow them credit. Chuck out there's this big French. You know that the Swiss. I'm sure he speaks French. I know you really think Jacques Speak French. Listen they they brought the lockdown. It's not something you want them to do. They be reminded by club to follow the rules and Etcetera. They were different. The context you to be different for for each of them she still couldn't all year went to the possibly some some Some running the suicides runs. Maybe the Isn't I don't want to find any excuse for them? They've gotten no excuses should not have done it neither of them and let's hope that until is confinement is is lifted on east that they won't they won't be doing again. It's not a good image. Doesn't reflect good on them. Special has been working hard on his middle distance running. And I think he's safe to say that you could have had another Korea. This is true. I was on the numbers. I if true true they'll think he goes on a bicycle and then you know okay. So He's been doing five K. Runs okay now. Scott Mattamy is. He's a big lab long blades. Powerful guys not like someone who goes really tight. Tv and yeah he does. He's been doing these five case by the way granite and surge and divy in Alexandria. Days is how you're supposed to screen in public. He goes and he runs around whatever sad. Northern village lives in and he comes back he does really really fast recorded a time of fifteen minutes and fifty five seconds in the five K. Now if you compare it to mow Fara who is was a gold medalist in twenty two thousand. Who is you know one ten Desai's Sixteen to Twenty sixteen whatever. There's other questions about that Guy Anyway. he got thirteen point four one. It's not super fast. However I was running on a track in spikes yes. Yes got mattamy. Presumably is running in running shoes. He's running outdoors so it's completely different. It's still apparently. According to the daily feature this was twenty. Th Fastest time recorded by a brick. He's fifteen point five five in the five K. So I think it myself. Scott accommodate wanted to be middle distance runner. He probably could have been a really really good. What trained for that. And if he ran on the track in track shoes I really really impressive I would like to see go to content running a five Ken and see it then with Tommy. Wipe the floor reside. I would like to see this X. Don't don't get me started. I don't I listen to his. Tell us who would win. Nick Thoman Air CANTATE. Yeah T- Mattamy saw right Jewels our new teammate. Here we walk. We walk over last week locomotive again with sloppy kisses James Ali. He's reporting that could you could be Chelsea's main target if as expected lose out on Jaden Sancho. Are you buying this? So I'm buying the idea that the needs a creative player especially when they against teams is different especially for bridge with a very low blog with their space. And they need something to unlock. Those kind of defense is showing up if they would go for for that. I'm not convinced after say I just as good opportunities and I'm really not continue as a player. I don't think that's the kind of profile and it kind of Playa. Franklin part and people are just you would go for your mind no better than me and you might disagree with me all agree with me but I like the idea of yes trying to find a plan that could unlock its own spaces. Defense is really low. I shouldn't say the answer so first of all. I don't think they lost out on Jane Sancho just yet At all second of all is absurd wages and we're cost immense so unless they get like some tremendous loan deal from Barcelona were alone. You know they pay all his wages than Cochran abetted night. I don't think I don't see how Chelsea will do that. Thirdly have mason now and they're coming in who you can say well they got us to genius but this is part of why they're brought in certainly. We're going to see a lot more four three three I think or or or some version of that without the guy the whole from land fiber we ever come back and who Chino doesn't necessarily fit into that system should we didn't So so no I. I'm not I I would find this very very surprising if it came to pass. Mark Martin eighth raids has made just three appearances for us. She's joining in February to our squad. Surprise move to be fair. They leading striker and some say we'll make anymore. Bhagat he feels differently writes Yes he certainly does and good for him he came out and he says you know what? I have a sweet deal here and I plan to stay here for four years or more and I find to be back and look vibe. Raceway is mind bracelet. He was brought there because the transfer window is closed and because of the screwy registration rules added in Spain. You can go and pay. Somebody's bio clause in bringing me should not be allowed. I think no travesty. But putting this guy down when he's played three games you know he's not. He's not the Gary Lineker nor Luis Suarez in terms of great Barcelona centre-forwards of yesteryear. He's got even really a centre forward. Might but you know what I'm quarter good for you good for you Mar. And he's really good guy and by the way if he's listening him and his wife just had a baby. So congratulations to the The Braithwaite Family Mazal Tov. On what is this? Can I say something What is the French relate to the game? No no no. I was just gonNA praise Scandinavian players with non-scandinavian sounding names like Martin break or the legendary Alvin ax. Aw because these people are intelligent and pleasant and they're fully funded Navien. His name's who are clever. I'm sure there are but I thought that. He and standing navy nontraditional Scandinavian Angel. Entertains US anyway? On some people get very excited by folkets. I do not jewel suspect. You do an even. I got a little bit excited by Scott. You did. Could you not exactly. They will wear Next Bill I believe next season especial should. They opened a competition for their fans to draw what they would like how they would like to see the next shirt new shots and six year old boy. Senate Greg Brewing of a blue shot blue being the past our scholars. Sarabi we be we the rainbow at Dolphin so headed the ball with his nosing devote in and a wonderful drawing the first place and they made a wonderful shirt with so I think Gudang Davies is the kind of content. I'm here for this. It looks it looks really cool. I know I'm going to buy one as soon as you want us to. Exactly in fact my by by another one and And we we can have as a prize in a competition because this is really going by the way for those who don't know the reason there's dolphin is not as the symbol of Wisconsin. The Bay at became the latest in a list of high profile football figures making major nation to health services. He gave a million euros in total to hope. It's hospitals in ways and Spain after Gwadar Ronaldo Mason and others. It's a big amount Gab. Username big now and then you take it. As a percentage of is annual earnings and not quite as big You know the equivalent of somebody making fifty thousand a year donating grant to just put it within some cameras did I. Don't I think the gesture is important? I I don't I don't like it when there's a number to it. I don't like these pissing context. This one donated moisten donated last people have to do with comfortable doing. It's great that he's done this. It's just as important. I think than the amount of money he gives is the fact that you know. I think he made a public any talked about it. He doesn't talk very often. But he when he publicized any underscored. The idea that these people are fighting on the front lines and our health systems aren't alone. They have a lot of support encouraging others to give so too. Well done well done. Gareth Cam yet. Alfonzo duty says a new dealer buying US quite the turn around just over a year. You're right got a year ago. He could not even get into the team remember he was. It was a left winger. The time there was a lot of competition there and now he just Unin. You didn't see twenty. Twenty five is bike. One of the best in Europe in the last three or four months and taking advantage of all the injuries that by the by the repositioning of Alba from left by left-center back. And then he going to push not and took it and I think a lot of crazy as as as a nineteen year olds to be able to adopt so quickly to a new position and improve so drastically to to play that kind of level we saw him against Gypsy for example. But like I've said on the show many times and like I keep saying used to be too early to say. Oh you know he's going to be. A great bike is going to be going to be that you need to be more time and he needs to keep working hard but certainly in terms of potential. He's got everything to to get. I'm not ready to put him in my top. Ten of Canadian footballers ever The list they've got nine better than him while doing Derosario and Owen Hargreaves and hung a cheaper Hutchinson and Gu's Lynn and the Steve Nash. I'm sure there's other unforgivingly breads key seven. Yeah I'm Wayne Gretzky. Even now if he decided to play football you would probably be better than Davis because he is not look is our kids but I have to say you know when I. I don't think I ever saw him play well in that first season when he came. And you could. Argue is adopting whatever but to go and reinvent yourself in a new position and to do so well and still do it so young. It's a credit to this guy's professionalism. It's a credit to buying for spotting his air. You know. The athletic quality was the technical quality. I think on the wing. It didn't work for him. I tried to. It doesn't mean he's gotTa play left back by the way the rest of Blair either. He's still very very young so well done. Afonso gave and he's also very good on talk as we all know why finally got Osama Jupiter. He's writing by the coronavirus effects on the transfer market for the website. That love speculation there. What you think. I haven't read it yet. Jewels but know Simon Somebody. Who's the rights for the Financial Times while he straddles the two words the the two worlds of of business and in football and politics? And of course you wait. He wrote a tremendous one of the greatest football books. Ever forget the enemy But I'm really looking forward to this. I think there's going to be a lot of implications you know it's not just There's so many things went out. At the same time. Casuarina she would transfer windows is going to be issuing registration windows There's there's been suggestions. That some tugs possibly majesty united or just going to go down low ball everybody in hoover up all the best players on the cheap around the world lot of regulation not of unknowns When the does with Israel but it is going to be obsolete fascinating so please check out shoutout ulcers. Were Buddy Tom Hamilton. Who wrote a piece about out of work managers and what they're doing in their free time definitely worth a read on the website tools were at the end of the show. This is guy. He goes so quickly every time. I can't believe in time flies when you're having a good time doesn't exactly but we'll be back on Monday Monday with a K. Team don't forget. We have another quiz question as well. And in the meantime everyone's they say.

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AMT388: Lolly Stick Jokes, Pizza Cutters, and Wombat Scat

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AMT388: Lolly Stick Jokes, Pizza Cutters, and Wombat Scat

"Does Michela bomb podcast, do sums about squarespace. How close would you win Langley? Get to Abacha's face. Well, well, well in step aside when we were contemplating the origins of Flap Jacks the ot kind versus the pancake kind, and I mentioned this draw of myth in Scotland that used to be full of cold porridge. Why do you have to imagine that? Again, it's giving me for them and yet a lack of evidence pointing to the definitive existence of those rules lucky for us. Nick from Renfrewshire has piped up to say I am in Scotland and I can confirm the porridge draw story is true is checked. Every joins free, but a smear of oats. Nick says it doesn't happen anymore these not with anyone I know, but the older generation with teddy that they used to regularly get porridge slices from a drawer, there would be big wooden metal tray line draws in the kitchen. This was the porridge draw or just a general cooling draw. Size. It's like if you use the solid juror in the fridge, but filled it with. Yes. I mean. There's nothing repugnant about solid drool when you use that terminology as pretty repugnant glow green slime in it. Rights Future Generations might be as equally off as I am by the very concept over porridge draw. But maybe it's just what your acclimatized to just don't know how you would get that metal tray clean. Ever. Exactly. My son's vicks every day that shit hardened select foundational levels of it is like cement I. Wonder if maybe in the Scottish highlands, they did use the porridge draw as a general kind of households. UIS will like a cement mixer come. Yes. Story well, sticking with the food chance We have the following correspondence. From Francesca, we'll non. Helena to me. This did FAB lollies used to have a joke on the stick? I mean, I would argue that a FAB is slowly is in itself. Giancana. Sh. Why while you? Why are you baiting people this? Really. Having a hard enough time. If. So when did the jokes end? Laughter Fade it as the ice creams melted. Another ice lolly that used to have jugs on the stick. Sometimes when I'm researching stuff of this show, I happened upon a lacouture in the Internet where Phil like there is under representation of knowledge on a topic that a lot of people care about. So to me all the time and this one I, think they could well have been on a FAB I. I can't remember specifically, but walls and lines maids tied them. Lines made produce the FAB I was curious to find out that the FAB was one of two ice creams. Bro Towns to ride on the wave of popularity of thunderbirds F., A., B., they launched Zoom. I. Remember that one that was like a rocket in three flavors are dunked. I'm I did three years of overnight radio and. Your don't have a ready answer for, do you remember the name? On shake. I don't David Jordan. The same was Iraq now, like rocket that's for boys. So a few years later, they announced the FAB for girls originally had lady penelope on the rapper 'cause goals. Actually was some bird brandon and it was an official tie. It wasn't just inspired by the name has been ret conned to fruit and Berry fabricated and bullshit like. That works for me but Pass the laugh because zoom is no longer manufactured and Fab is. Great in the seventies and eighties, there were the informally titled Lally Was I. Think It was essentially getting kids to spend that twenty five pence on Wolseley versus aligns made lally. So there was free shit like cereal toy style Deva's with. Cards, badges, Moscow magic tricks, little facts on the rappers. Some something. We'd have comic bookstore characters. They wanted to collect the more. Stories, but some of them, this up lines made had A. Crime. Squad, which on the stick had a secret code, and then wolves had the rival super spy which had the same, and then some of them really went for it. There was another lines made lowly logical goal. Once you ate it, the stick revealed a little plastic lower, and then you could paint it, and if you collected ten than you had enough for five aside team, you could send off for Kevin Keegan's mini football pitch. So that was Iraq as well to get people to buy these team faulk. Me Painting lolly sticks a collection. That's your summer. But this I thought was actually quite Cool Wolves did a Count Dracula's secret lawley on the stick. There were little stencils Eddie. You could draw faces. No six different wants to collect Georgia. Different Vampire faces other lot seem quite fun and what was secret. Secretly love garlic. Yes. Garlic flavored lolly. So I remember when I was secondary school and must be specifically between about nine, hundred, ninety, two, and nineteen, hundred five. There was a girl called becks who is collecting all of the lally Jake. Sticks. And eventually she, I, think, just right to wolves to ask for a full list. 'cause couldn't complete collection. It's for the latest. Just ask for the sticks. Now, if they were winning to distribute the sticks, he say 'cause then maybe she would like make our own bootleg lollies but then the joy of collecting sticks surely not to know what the joke saw what you've just said the joy of collecting the sticks are pretty low energy joy I've already said I. Don't understand how people joys were so low generally I mean it's extraordinary now, but anyway Anyway. That happened definitely in the nineties. However, I. Read that they phased out lally stick Jake's in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eight So therefore, you think, but you have full memory using that actually because there were so many different ice cream distributors doing the lowly stick meam that it carried on or properly. So many sticks left or maybe just the the school tuck shop had stuff that was like years of date. But it also could've just been the start of a phasing out, and that supposedly is because at that point, this ice lolly market aimed at kids whether we're extremely low price, just not considered worth it anymore and I. Guess also like in the wake of haagen-dazs. So go for this fisted auto market is worth more go for the ice cream van market, and so you off when all the twenty five dollars with novelty sticks such a shame because even as a grownup, I, think with an ice lolly, it has to be on a stick. So you've got the stick anyway. The stick interesting. There have been a couple of revivals of these in two, thousand and eight indeed. Walls hired James Corden to write new jokes. Who did he hire to write the gags? Well, also, there was supposed to be printed in English. German, and Greek, and because of these just word playing those dating, translate you. In fact, we have to write different jokes and localized free to those cultures for the plans to make sense. Yeah. Like my four year old son's favorite at the moment is, what's a pirates favorite letter R.. COM translate. that. Into Greek row. Conclusively Than You can't say that it was on a Fab. I. Slowly, it just sounds like it likely walls if she remembers it because it was on. So many I. think it likely was as well because Fox one of the few of these identities tweet and I definitely remember Iceland Jakes, say anecdotally I have absolutely no doubt if we can find someone who seen a porridge draw Someone listening to this right now, either knows for a fact that is long had on the mall probably still has wom-. Probably has a collection of jokes on sticks. Last. Here's another question of jokes. David, and Jane who say only answer me this. How did knock knock jokes come about what is everyone know how to respond to them all they actually funny, that's very subjective. Isn't it? Wo-. It is subjective although I think I can represent most of they know they're not funny what they generate is. The recognition that has taken place. Yes. It's an effort to go ha ha. After actually forced the laugh when really what you things. Yeah I, see you've done a joke. I. Think a lot of the formula jerks of us. It helps that it's often a cute kid doing. So then you feel like you're boosting self confidence by offing, maybe you'll just hindering their career and doing better jokes, but in terms of where they came about. I actually guessed the answer to this using my actual knowledge and then was proven right, which doesn't happen very much. Spare. I guessed correctly because I remember seeing a production of Macbeth in the nineties where this was very labored and it stuck in my mind the porter in Macbeth, the comedy character comes on stage basically saying knock knock. So yes, Shakespeare wrote effectively the first not joking sixty six. It doesn't follow the same structure of the knock knock jokes we know in now I'll read it to you I. Mean You have to bear in mind I'm not a comic actor and you haven't just seen someone stabbed to death so I'm not providing any light relief. Imagine imagining context ACTA wakes up from a drunken stupor at the sound of someone knocking on the door to tell him that the king of Scotland said and says to the audience, knock knock knock. WHO's there in the name of bells above. Here's a form of the hanged himself on the expectation of plenty come in time have Napkins, and now about you hear you'll swear for it s a little longer than the knock knock formula using extends to these days. It's Shakespeare. So there's certainly rhythm, but it's not the rhythm that we've become accustomed to is it it does actually carry on a second and third verse. Knock, knock. WHO's there in the other devils name faith equivocated the could swear in both the scales against either scale who committed treason enough for God's sake, yet could not equivocate to have no come in equivocated and then the big punchline knock knock knock who's there faith his an English come hither for stealing out of a franchise come in Taylor here you may roast, you'll goose. You have to remember that it is a really grim story Macbeth. So like if you imagine equivalent in a really gritty Jim, McGovern drama than a commercial break in diversity, come on that dancing is like that it's such a different tone than itself is going to funny. That sounds like almost a character catchphrase. But that's a far cry from it. Being a formula where you say body, Blah Blah Blah who? And then the reveal right and sloppy lost in the midst of time exactly who I put that formula together although we know that by the time, Bob Dunne who's a cartoonist in the nineteen thirties in the states published a really popular book which had a series of the jokes in it. Obviously, by then it was well established by nineteen thirty s establishing some people, credit him as having invented the molten knock knock joke. But I think it's more complex than that because there was a music hall comedian cooled wee. Wood who was on the radio in the nineteen thirties. Now, his act was basically like Janette grandkid dwarfism and played schoolboy that was his stick and he came on the radio ended upon on his own name. He said, I'm George would knock knock. Because his name's would. Right. And that was a hugely popular radio show at the time. You have to remember like mass transmission of media and he just happened people being very cheered up by their stuff. So everyone went round the next day in the school yards. Basically saying I'm Georgie would not knock and I think there was a residual memory of the Shakespeare because obviously it carried on being stationed four hundred years. So I, think those two things conflated into the that became the knock. Knock knock joke that was then solidified by Bob Dunne and it was in America where it really really took off in the states they already had. It's like more aggressive tradition where they would say do so it's more of a punked thing pranking someone you got someone in the street and say, do you know offer? They'd say author who, because that is how you'd actually not reply to that question and then they'd say a joke like off the moment. And runaway, that's. An anticlimax right does mean that you're kind of a victim of the joke rather than laughing along with, and if you think about it, there is an American tradition of that which you see in the simpsons when boggles up mode and does the is there I'm who I'm about-face. Exclusively American formula after Georgie, would was on the radio in. Britain. Radio Orchestras in the states started using knock knock jokes to punctuate their acts like a bit like a kind of comedy ident- even had like, knock knock clubs in my. Turn to snap. Seed Nightmare. Just waiting for the drop ways question from Noam. Brooklyn. Who says recently a dungeons and dragons playing friend sent me a link to accompany that carves game dice out of Arctic Swedish. Moose Pu priced at two hundred and fifteen dollars for the set. What Alex? Well, how much would you say that a games dice carved out of uptick? Swedish Moose should be retailed at two dungeons and dragons fan. Well, you get several in a pack dot e Fit Dungeons and dragons. multisided. Sight, there's probably some skill to make the sides equals role in. But I feel is not good. It's not good substance for it because it's a hard enough I'm looking for number. What do you think is a fair price? Well, I bought my nephews from in plastic for like twenty dollars. So I put novelty pay maybe fifty, fifty I actually to be fair would expect up to one hundred and fifty, two, hundred and fifteen degrees little steep. Thoroughly delighted said Noah forwarded the link to my family for a laugh at which point my father informed me that this was a waste of time and energy because clearly he said one bat Pu is by far the superior Kufa dice as it is all ready cubed. That's right. Point of origin. Really. Cubic. Pu. They do now the only known mumbled cubic poos. It's. Advantage if you WANNA six sided dice game series, Gamer you might want twenty sides, ten sites falsehoods. So Helen this, what the Shit is going on with one BEPPU We've been to the museum in Tasmania, which is a museum of animal paying amazing. We went in and chat with the proprietor in open for three weeks and thus goes out of paying for. It. Also meant, we couldn't look at the exhibits, but is mainly words on the walls throughout the actual pays. Disappointing, yeah. That one, but who is caved, but then also saw on the verge outside having that, oh. There is a lot about by around everywhere because wombats produce between eighty and one hundred poos in a single night. repressive is a lot. It seems like a lot because wombats a quite small eighty bowel motions is a lot. But I'm just think about my own poos thinking if you divide them into cubes, I probably could produce like twenty a day and in doing about eight keeps per movement, right? Okay. So that they thought maybe won't bouts of Square Mrs, and that's why this is. But now they have discovered from some roadkill wombats in Tasmania? That they have dissected but. One Bucks, intestines, which by the way, a longer than those of a human, that nine meters long. Oh. Just remind US how logical? It's like. Two Feet Long. It's like a big pillow. the hub of all eight many gross and Balk. inbreeds. Digestion is very slow a to fourteen days. Travels through the very long intestines. 'cause said Honda preserved. They can get, and then in the last eight percent of intestine, that's where it turns from liquid into the cubes. So that last eight percent of intestine doesn't stretch evenly says not like a circle, of Mussels, some of the muscles, really stretchy and some of them are firm. That's what makes it into these cube shapes because it extruded through this. Tube. which allows it to become a cape. But I also read that sometimes in zoos where animals have more access to hydration make less cubic. Right? Well, the moisture just like round off the edges wouldn't keep. Cube shape, but then some people theorize as to why this is a feature to that I. Well, it's queued. That means it doesn't roles. So maybe they're shifting it and leaving it in special places to communicate with other one bats. Maybe they're stocking up whereas all the scientists know the shaking weather like if you're doing one hundred hits a day, it's not that strategic. Right, well, I think that's onto this question. Have you happy with that? Now? Empty one bonus, amazing combat facts about the back end of a wombat who wouldn't? They didn't have a lot of defenses against predators except for they have kind of amish plate in the top error of their asses say. If like a Dingo is coming off to them. They can go into a borough, and if the DINGOES head is coming off to them, they just crush it with almond bums. and. How do they make sure they don't inadvertently crush other things. They're bums like during sex or whatever. Heaviest. Just. They can exert a lot of bump. Still, force that thumbs up against slight the reef of that borough right crushes. The dogs had between the boom, the burry what a way today from to the. Question They not class. To me. Dot Com. CASTA commando. His question from Katie who says my mother and I visited London for the first time last summer, and there's something that's been on my mind ever since why does twenty-first-century first century country have? Monica. That's not a question. That's mine. Being that she's not a very adventurous eater. My mother we ended up having pizza twice whilst we were in London. Actually think if you not very adventurous eater than having pizza only twice, he's quite restrained and although it was pleasant in taste and texture at both establishments we visited. Phase soap about on tripadvisor. Restaurants ago hard enough time at the moment, we were flummoxed that when it came to the table, it was as a whole pie. Thank Tiring completely on sliced, we are not provided with a pizza cutter. So we did the best we could soaring away at it with a knife and fork. So al-anon's me. This is uncivilized pizza. A London thing. No. She says I've never been to Italy. But growing up in central New York state. I was surrounded by pizzerias owned by first and second generation Italian immigrant. So I thought I knew a thing or two about pizza. Yes. You don't think about American, Pizza. Yeah. Well, I suppose that's the nature of her question. She says, I did a bit of research and I found that the inventor of the pizza cutter was. was. Indeed. American. So has this invention not made it across the pond in these last one, hundred plus years? Now we have them here. I grew up with one actually in the house and we didn't use it that much because that kind. Of Shit, thenn quite blunt, very hard to sharpen by orphan children eating pizza. They're more fun than using a knife and fork. That's reason it's great to have rotating blade. I mean spirited when trying to cope with knife, you drag it. Don't you see drag the ingredients and because you're not doing that with a pizza cutter, if it's shop is a superior instrument, well, I think a lot of American pizzas have more share on them and they're thicker necessarily get through it with a knife as easily you. Drag some of the ingredients across the pizza I never thought of that as a negative before. But if you did think of that as a negative, then there it is. It's not clear city who invented the pizza cutter who she's referring to with the inventor. The Scott Being American was a guy called David Morgan in eighteen ninety two patented a rotary cutter four wallpaper trimming in one thousand, nine, hundred to a call a frame of Canton Ohio registered a similar device a rotary cutter although bit crinkled around the blades that was to cop does that was role, but it's not clear who actually fought Bingo Gedney uses for pizzas that was probably Probably a bit later and they do have them in Italy as well. But they also want us in Italy as a Mezzaluna will slow. That's one of these big curved blades with two handles Iraq back and forth are lovers yet I mean I've never used one. But I, love the look of a very useful for chopping. But also now just office to use that for pizza that was invented by Italian Silvio patchy in seventeen o eight, this also gonNA lovely name like some by Pacini Yeah Hoffman is what methylene soon, most letting thing is like over in Britain, but even more. So in Italy you're more likely to have an individual pizza. So it's not cut into slices for sharing because it's not three feet white. So I think that's part of it, but in Italy and I confirmed with our mutual Italian Frederick, Keller from Naples, which is the pizza it. She confirmed my memories of people eating pizza in Italy with a knife and fork like we other fate. You'd cut off little bits and eat them off the fork yet because it is a casual food that to you know is the street food, but it's also a food. Do you have in a restaurant in a way that it just isn't it? Okay. So when I was spent time in Florence, when I was eighteen knows there for a couple of months and? And I made my American friend and she was twenty nine and we went to pizza place and she was like, what do I do because the pizzas were not sliced and she'd never encountered pizza before he didn't eat just go hand options fairly obvious I would say if it's in front of a note, she has never used a knife and a fork together. What's and I had not been to America this time. But now I have I know the food is engineered for single implement eating. Or hand eating because it's quite soft, our world were I would. Yeah. But what about I mean I? I? Know what you're saying? About. Britos or fries or whatever. But I mean, what? About steaks? They love a stake in the states. You definitely need an eye for that, but they give you a dagger for that was quite high in food stuff. Like if you twenty beginning at for steaks all the time she does have being raised vegetarian I'm not meaning to shame you're twenty nine year old friend that you. You met in Florence Twenty years ago I met a I'm just saying the strikes me as someone like that who managed to get their way over to Florence, but nephews knife and fork in might be unusual. You think not I think just it's much easier to get away with it in the states because there's a lot more food that is yielding yeah I agree with that. We have another Pizza Kosta. Question. From Jessica in Los. Angeles. Now, the piece of the Pie which were not calling pie because it's not a pies not fucking Pie Jessica says my husband and I got fed up with all burgum pizza wheel cutter. So as we're in quarantine and not shopping in brick and mortar I absent mindedly ordered a new one online. The thing is monster. The whale is as widened. Diameter is a teacup salsa. It is shop a F. and most importantly, it has no sheath sheaf flashbacks to contraceptives in textbooks. Is the problem only. I don't know where or how to store it. We live in a tiny Los Angeles apartment. We have only two small shallow drawers in the kitchen, one utensil pot on the kitchen counter. If I put in one of the drawers, I couldn't put much else in the drawer because one large wheel to fear of cutting myself when breaching for different. Utensil. I can't put it into utensil pot on the counts because it might slice up the other utensils. And I would add as well. The other utensils might amrried the blade. Yes. If it's hitting up against metal spoons and to her anxiety Jalan, she's got enough troubles as it is. I would say suggest that it's even more of a terrifying prospect for your hand thrusting into a forest of utensils, one of which is an unsheathed blade. Agree. Jessica says, it currently lives awkwardly half under the strain on the counter. That's not optimum. Eat Pizza very often, but often enough to buy this thing I guess. Yeah. But if she's got the same view as Katie if Americans just Connie. Pizza Cutter and this is going to be a problem. Isn't it beyond news? Pizza causes over the nation, but she is in. America. So hope ought to come pre cut only aunts me this. How can I keep all fingers safe and this thing out of the way produce somewhere else all the pizza cutter wheel slaves underneath their sheets, but couldn't you put it in a Jiffy bag? Or tupperware Jiffy bags not bad but I do know because I've done the research, they're all sheets. FOUND PAMPERED CHEF DOT COM for three dollars. Fifty Replacement Protective Cover for pizza cutter. Now, obviously, that is for their brand of pizza cutter, which might be smaller than your monster one, but it might be worth measuring your one and seeing if if it's put yours in a CD case, if you can still get one of them, the ZIP bonds got for the car. I would also suggest not keeping in the drawer, just put it in the fridge save. You are using it sporadically back of a cupboard in its sheath or put it in A. A. Different in a different room like I know that having a pizza cutter in your bedroom chest of drawers might be old. If someone would stumble upon it and you're a mass murderer, where'd you keep your toolkit all the winter coaching for the ten call days in Los Angeles or your rain boots? Yes. Where do you keep your screwdriver there, but it there right? Camping gear spare lightbulb. Put It in a sheet or Jiffy bag or Tupperware or flop box like get some. See's candies. Once you've eaten them, put the pizza cutter in that. Earthquake. Could be released for the. Bears and stuff if you need to cut your own hand open during enough quake. Helen Oliver. Though life is full of questions. There are answers you must know who won. Own It will not fall but marder ration- in off things to. Probably use we. Find out on. Times three most people. Honor. And My? Favorite is dawn. You try and. Ruin your plan. US, turn to thank our sponsors for this episode. The great courses plus who have more than eleven thousand lectures available to watch on demand. I was watching very interesting episode of undestanding Japan. Today. Yeah. It's was about the artist Hokusai and the art of woodblock prints. So, you know a lot of the very famous Japanese wave prints or the people. That will by this guy and then interesting Thailand, is that one point because it was like what he did this, but he also did a lot of this stuff just to you know sell like Dickens writing these of serialized potboilers in order to earn an income and one point he published a so of his how to draw like I can dropping and. Through this, the comic book evolved what? Japanese autism died in forty. So going back away, and when you look at it, you're like, oh. My God, you can really see the direct. Influence on twentieth, century, comic books here. 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Unilateral Same. The botanic. Gardens. There and Belen, and it's clearly bitter for the bees and six the birds. My question is, why did he run have alone and I? Think the answer is probably status and? Some idea of tidiness. But also, how can we this way to know him learned anymore with that? Make a significant difference to the ECO system I. Mean. It seems like a very basic thing that if we could start a train, people would be really. Making a big difference in actually all it means you're saving money by notch. Mowing, your lawn, paying someone to me law and your seven Pallor. Maybe need to get some seeds to start off with, but they kind of Cordell and there'd be lots of flowers cheating. Really good idea. We'll fast while loans. The initial reason for loans was while like if you go back to say a causal hundreds of years ago. They would have grosses around partly for grazing animals and partly so that you had a Clare Eileen. If your enemies were approaching, if you'd go woods then yeah. They can hide whether it's just the con-. Yeah. I was just trying to think well, the alternative would be, but yes, big tool for. That would be an issue. Council Times but yeah. Okay. Yeah. But also similarly like when people were hunting in ancient times like it was a lot easier to see predators in grassland ten coming up from a long way away. But then from cancels, you can kind of trace how they were a symbol of a wealth and status side I. Think they particularly took off in the seventeenth century. That was when like the kind of English fancy garden in fancy houses really became a thing because you'll showing all of the places from around the world you've got blogs. Blogs from as well, which is a thing that gets lost these days when you can buy African roses for three pounds in the petrol station. Yeah. But even if you want if you just using plants that were growing in ahead dry, it was like we can afford land that has no purpose except to be decorative and exist that don't need to put animals on it. We don't need to grow vegetables in it. We can just a fucking loan and Knot Garden, and we can also afford people to take care of it. As far as domestic spices, nonce didn't take off for a wall bill. Now, they were very much like the preserve of the rich I, think in the nineteenth century parks start to become thing because like outdoors was considered healthy and kind of moral. Anyway. So it was like give the pause some place they can be in some gross they can be on but. A huge thing was the invention of the loan mirror, which was first developed in eighteen thirty wasn't great like it took quite a lot of people over the nineteenth century to make it good. It was a guy called Edwin bid budding who I developed, and he'd seen like in fabric production. This rotating thing like the thing that takes bubbles of sweaters. Bid Budding is an extraordinary. Invents. The lawnmower has a reference to both flowers and hair in his name. So he thought well, we'll just make a big one for Gross, but the problem is his blades often didn't really contact gross enough. Also loans like wouldn't necessarily gross they camera loans and time lawns were thing I. Think Grassi self was. Another state assembly because it's not actually a very good plant is quite about Cape. Does. Melissa will give it that. But by the eighteen ninety s, the lawnmower was like good enough and popular enough that it made loan having a lot more possible, and so that was when people weren't. Aristocrats could also have their own lawn. I think we'll say just like you look at house-building translate mass housebuilding trends and a lot didn't have a load of outside space. Think till the twentieth century because then you had like look, here's your luxury of the suburbs and you can have my space around your house and alone you don't even have to have your own herd of sheep to keep the lawn tidy. I think in the states like houses, I think partly because towns built somewhat later to. To The K. and also it's a Murimi country. So I think it's normal. See a large amount of grass around a house there than it was here. Also, lawns then became more popular in public events. So like most sports the now played on grass, it wasn't always thus like you said, put in tennis player on clay or something, but apparently dyke love sports played on different surfaces, and then it was like Bras Cross cross big grass really asserted itself. Okay I. Mean I feel like actually in lockdown, the front lawn has really had a bit of a resurgence for those of us. Lucky enough to have won because especially, if you can't read someone's back gone without going through that how. It's become a social space again, hasn't it? It's a place. You can stand safely away when Alice says, why do people grow wild meadows in their front lawn? You can't do that. That's why do you think at the moment? My parents that in some, they just let the girl scroll waist height, they have a big long the by quite infirm. So it's not easy to most they just know like a couple of through the gross and let the rest grade for the summit I'm into it like I don't aesthetically think a mowed lawn looks better than the wild one. I like wild grass bud round here. If You let flowers take over, you just get stinging metals and that is not my favorite. Actually only leaves things to guy while they might be good for nature, but it's GonNa be good for the people who own the property as well. If every time I walk out, my front door gets stung. That's GonNa make me think I'm going to pop great my artificial disneyfied wild meadow. I would seem also in certain places keeping gross long would be something of the fire risk. Yeah, and also again like having insects in, it is good for the insects and I good for birds, eat the insects, but not necessarily good humans 'cause they bought you. But they say Auntie loan trends, I, remember years ago. There was an upsurge ninety, nine percent invisible about how having a lush green real lawn in California, where there'd been a drought. Drought for many years without point was the opposite of a status symbol. So there were trends, kind of like painting, your front garden instead or replacing it with something else. There's a game actually that we play me and my son Harvey, you know Front Lawn. The road is kind of framed by two hedges. So you can sit just next to the hedge and you can guess what color the car is going to be but comes passed. So I did it once and I've had to live with the consequences ever since. He likes game where it's like I. Say it's going to be read. He's GonNa be play, and then there's the jeopardy of what's the going to be here? It coming I wasn't going to be, it can be readily and invariably silver nervous wins. He's quite fun as as games that I play with my four year old, but he doesn't really understand that it's the context of our front lawn that makes that game fund. So now every time we're on a road. He says, let's play the game. What colors the car. I can see the fuck. It's red. So do I say is going to be read by that changes. My gamble them I'm lying if I, say I think he's going to be Imola. Away. Just, by using common sense I, suppose as a compromise, you come to find the wide ranging from the game which would be watched like, what are the next time 'cause going to build something. Right. What's the tenth cog? In Base? Training him, up to. Gamble yes. Lyman influence you want to be who I am you B. Everything on my instagram, but it's all stock photos. My Life's a talk show. 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We're often told fables and tales about the man who lives in a farmhouse in the middle of the M, sixty, two, two way between Manchester and Leeds. What. So in between the North and southbound ways? Yes. If you if you actually just google like house on the m sixty two, a is a thing. People have always been curious about the house is actually called start whole farm. The name of the man who lives that was pulled up. He's lived there for ten years and yeah, it's an amusing picture even on Google maps because you've got the MC, which is huge six lane highway than just splits down the middle with the left carriageway around the Farmhouse on one side, the right carriageway going the other Oh, it's almost like an in the middle of a river but made of roads rather than. Exactly you can see why if you grew up in Manchester Leeds, this would be something. People would. Talk about? Yeah. They'll says, there were stories that the might builders couldn't get this man to move as he was a stubborn Yorkshireman. So they simply built the my toys around him. Their other stories that is farmland wasn't suitable for roads. So again, they just built it around him all onto me this, why does the man live in the middle of the m? Sixty, two motorway? How does he get to and from the shops as a consume running across three? Three lanes of traffic with his bread and milk will ever be able to sell this house. Well, you've said, someone's only been living in ten years. So they have managed. It isn't owned privately by the people who live in it. It's owned by Yorkshire, water, nowadays, and so the people living there attendance. So that deals with issues, they chose to be tenants presumably. Yes. The Guy who lives there now someone who's worked on the farm before he lived there. So. Chose to be tenants managed to get to work. I. Guess Before Leaving Nineteen. And the guy who lived there before you know we'll see a stubborn Yorkshireman who said you can't build the motorway here, kind of, and that's why these stories don't quite die. But then so were like you know tens of thousands of farmers. He lived across the same sixty, two and loads of other motorways built them Britain for the first time. Of course, they said, you're not in my house down most of them took the money and sold up, and in his case, it became a non issue because they realized there was a geological fault beneath the house, which meant it more practical for the engineers to leave rather than blaster and destroy it. Basically, it was too wet and too steep, and they wouldn't be able to get all six lanes of the motorway up there. So they just didn't. The boring well. That makes sense. Yeah. You can see why people like the kind of local hero idea that someone the big government organized road, but I mean actually a, it was just really hard to build around it and I suppose to answer the thing about what, what, who would wanna live there now. As you say it's mythologised, it's fable is it is in any case, quite a nice old house. It's three hundred years old. It's fifteen acres. I. Believe and it's Quirky because he's in the middle of the way. Everyone knows where it is and you take get random passersby by coming in and talking to people like. Don't. You think it goes. Back. That's interesting. Isn't it that you would choose that life, but you know people won't all sorts of different lives even fill doesn't. Yeah. You might want easy access to a service station and that's the thing like. How'd you get bread milk? While you get on the motorways, your drive fifteen minutes. If you're a film about might be quite a nice break from walking around with shape. WanNa get and you travel at speed, maybe he grows on his. Milk, and bread and toilet paper Nigga out the sheep will. But the the sound, the traffic I mean, some people who would want to live on a motorway. Actually my wife lived on a motorway for five years where we were twenties on the and forty in London, there's a parallel which is just on the that's what it faces, and you know you get triple glazing and yes, you can hear the traffic. All the time is like That's all the time and you get used to it like a babbling burke. It's not as Nice as the houses, three roads down that cost more because you. You can't hear that. But it does cost last full that reason, and that's the truth is like you know different people are willing to make that sacrifice, and if you want a big farmhouse in Yorkshire I, Guess having one in the middle of probably would be cheaper and also something rely cars. As I said, alien I will sit with my son and watch traffic and that's an entertaining sport. So you know he'd love to live there. Hello. I'm Wilson. The bowl from castaway and here. Is My song about my favorite? Bulls. Football Rugby. Voluble. Tennis. Ball, so we will basketball. Netball Handball debutante Ball Bowling Bowl baseball. Big swear to blue. And the Sports Day a marathon fun and games out now onto me, this podcast dot com slash albums. His question from Joris Age, thirty, two from the Netherlands, currently living in Somerville Massachusetts Helen. Ounce me this. What is proper instagram etiquette for liking suggestive. Photos and he has put the word suggestive in brackets with the question will return to that. So. suggestive. Let's say exactly, but my wife's fourteen year old niece posts on instagram in general I, just like whatever she posts, it's not something. I actually like just to be supportive. She's on holiday with the parents and aren't on Ibiza and the adults posted pictures posing in the harbour I would judge has kind of tacky. But that I liked regardless, but the fourteen year old included again, he's put the word suggestive in question look in brackets, photos in her bikini. If I like her bikini photos MIS creepy uncle, or is it just a normal thing to do what is the proper instrument? Instrument Etiquette Yeah I coming into point in my life where this is starting to become relevant because some of my nibbling 's are in the early teens and they're on Instagram so far by post pictures of all, they've done or plants that they're growing the trucks I drops not even any pictures of themselves but I did think while you know ever fourteen year old niece. So should I be prepared but I think what I would say if my niece did stop posting shots like that is probably just hope you're having a good holiday something like that very general where it's like. Acknowledge the picture I haven't said anything to suggest I have only focused on the fact of you in your Bikini. Yes. I, think there's a few things at play him in one of them is. Is your approval going to be that important to her because I don't want my nibbling to feel like I'm kind of spying on what they're doing. Obviously, the doing it in a public forum, but I want them to express themselves without thinking. Will my elderly relative Helen? Think about it I saw the opposite to stem like whenever I see one of your nibbling and one of my instagram pictures of Mike. Posted recently half I said nothing completely ridiculous for it. The problem is the more you like it as well. The more instagram is likely to serve it up to you, and also the more that other people will get to see it because that's on the algorithm works, isn't it? Whereas tonight with comments as I think. It's a good suggestion that you made. You know hope you have a good holiday, but I suppose that's still interaction with the photo which does bump up, doesn't it and he said that there's other people in the photo. Yeah. He's also I think it's important that he did put suggestive in brackets with a question mark on it because I think he's acknowledging there implicitly that. It may not be sexually suggestive at all. This is a fourteen year old having fun on holiday. She may not be thinking at all that photo could be seen in in a sexual way or interpreted in a sexual way. She might be because some fourteen year olds are there at that point in their lives, but they're not necessarily think about all the implications of that in a platform accessible to adults. That's the question. Isn't it and that's you know the answer to that question. So that is slightly Difficult. Area I. Think it would be weird to draw attention to it. especially, if she's comfortable with being in photos in her bikini, then she's not my body confidence than I've ever seen and it will be ashamed to make herself conscious if she's not currently, but you wouldn't notice you withdrawing your likes become self conscious I. Think as you suggest, but you might notice if you had word with her. Right. Don't do that. I. Guess. We'll play some sunshine emojis. Don't post an eggplant and water droplets emojis. Maybe someone who's grappling with a wider problem is as a man who supportive of. Woman voters which include them in it with that being a creep, and obviously this is the one of the more extreme. Parts of that equation when it's a fourteen year old girl and a relative, that's a place where you definitely, they want to see my creep. Any different to be postive. Obey the things that I think the problem is also just the light function is so emotionally unsubtle. You. Can't really pause what someone. WHO Now. She's probably thinking that valence in my uncle's likes. Well, that brings us to the end of this episode about to me this. But to my future episodes, we need your questions and we'll have nothing to discuss put us in that position. Please don't you dare not. 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E51: Inside Football with Adrian Bevington

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35:56 min | 5 months ago

E51: Inside Football with Adrian Bevington

"Hello I'm Richard Gallison. Welcome to the new daily unofficial partner. Today we go behind the scenes in football with Adrian Bevington. They're very few people better qualified to talk about what's really happening in the corridors of power within the game both a national level and within the club. Game Adrian is best known for his work at the FAA over nearly two decades. I is the GO-TO COM's guy. And then as Managing Director of Club. England raheel held for five years till Twenty fifteen during his period at the FA. What was seven in managers? How Book and some Peter Taylor Kevin Keegan's Fen goran-eriksson Steve mcclaren Fabio Capello and Roy Hodgson where it was several chief executives including Brian Barwick Adam crozier and in what more. Adm was born in. Middlesbrough started his career as a trainee report on the Company newspaper and is a lifelong fan of his hometown. Football Team for football club whose media team he later joined. He's written books on the club. One with fellow press officer Dave Allen from dum boom the most dramatic decade in the life of Middlesbrough F c published in Nineteen ninety-six. It's about the dramatic rebirth of the club. Following their financial woes in the mid eighties by twenty eighteen Bevington move back to his hometown and became Middlesbrough's head of recruitment operations. A role that he left at the end of last year. Why wanted to do is just talk about what what we're starting this place. Which is what the fuck are we doing? What's happening where we going? And but I just WANNA get your if you said some really interesting things over the last sort of few days on on twitter about football obviously and about you know the decisions and the politics of it around the leaks and the and the coordination just give us a first of all. Just give us a generalized ideas. Were about where you think. We are in the decision making process. How is this? What do you what? What's the front of your mind at the moment? Okay I actually genuinely believe that the football bodies rarely come together on work very well the well one of the moment Richard is the this is president territory for everybody. Well it is a nobody knows exactly how is GonNa play over wall particular timeframe so the fact that you've had a Lotta Being going on with the different sporting organisations with government with broadcasters were a period of weeks now is them as they need to a facing the challenge. Who's coming while she fainted moved dramatically towards the Buchan Lashley usually in the first set of this foments and equal participants going down with the virus such as McCallum which I think will forever be known as the trainer moment Those men of the coronial always view of arms with relaxed on which is rather windfall tuna on that this week. You've seen you know procession of statements. Starting WITH UEFA meeting while conference call maintained on Tuesday that lasted about an hour or so and then they were able to announce that they was having the euros this year which we all anticipated but it was done in a veterinary professional. Buy In and support from all the stakeholders of the mateen. Then it bounced full twenty four hours to the NFL who have gained. They had a long long amazing but ultimately hang out with what most people felt was very sensible statesman-like statement afterwards. And also the fact that you know looking at some potential cash reserves to help those flows in in greatest need then moving forward another twenty four hours to primarily island yesterday and with the statement is a collective from the whole of English football which is very rare and I do feed in the moment having moved around football. Twenty five years this is gonNA collegiate spirit between the Gangs Leagues. Yovany bodies than there's ever been which is is a real blessing a the outcome of that. Do you think in terms of do you think that will is that sort of again too cliche? Is this sort of blitz. Spirit going on here and then go around the usual ways what. Why are they so difficult to get together around the table other than in a crisis? Well these are. These are very demanding. Times as I've sense for some time I actually. I really felt that this being a really strong relationship developing between the in the Premier League and the Football League for Ragu period now and it seems to be calm. Maybe crazy being looked at always been a great deal on anyway. It was just flush points. Maybe highlight some attention times. This is definitely shown a really good strength Strong togetherness. I hope that moving forward. We'll see a lot more of that. A defendant nickel. Its own right in how they've they've dealt with. It haven't really boxed themselves in with with hot that lines among in about no football before the end of April But even that has the flexibility in understanding the. We don't know where we're GONNA be. We All know this commotion Challenges Facing All of the stakeholders that an manage those very sensitively as well but watching brief. It's really good. Everyone said my opinion committed to fulfilling the season because not allow us to focus on more is GonNa come when it happens. It gives them time than to multiple how that is going to look how many weeks he's going to take talk. She concluded the season. How Games a week that is. How would with broadcasters in a house or whatever the fines is behind closed doors if it is behind closed doors which would be the least photo shop shoe how? He's not going to work with government in the emergency services. All these dynamics is going to be dealt with In these conversations over this period of time with time that all himself but when you get to the club level It's the there was a number of of clubs. The are going to be really struggling here on they in terms of I mean. That's an understatement. But just in terms of the managing the just the basic cashflows are running keeping the doors. Open the cash flows absolutely crucial and unfortunately the finger has been made by a number clubs and this time of year is not right either going out to market or reach out to me if a season tickets so they're not actually got the ticket Revenue Command at the moment. You know these issues regarding small ship deals rather already being paid from loaded Maybe that you to go out to molecules still trying to find sponsors for the coming season so the many how engulf the cash coming in knows areas of the moment you have a lower close particularly once again to League one in late two on that into the conference level. They also live in gained two game home games with the cash flow. The ticket money provides but also the hospitality areas in l. ever else revenues generated around the stave. And also as well you know even even the big clubs. Typically outside of the absolute biggest clubs in the primarily many Palin in the championship also relied very heavily still cash flow the the gate revenue bring so it is providing a real challenge for everybody know unrated could have seen this three or four months ago. So you know when the last season but this season. This isn't something that you could not ask. You made a point about centralized primitive boards and central selling inventory in a different way struck me as a good idea. It's an idea that the primarily choice of float along Tom Emmer. I'm Jay trying to get the contract in trying to get that through and it's always sort of Polish back by the big people can sit. You can make more money individually but do you think that those sorts of solutions are on the table. I'd like to think that being discussed I think particularly bell level when you know the afl a very strong brand as a collective now you've got so many different levels of turnover commercial viability you comparing lead united with some of the closed down the ball men of league two completely different dynamic but they've if he found a way where the NFL could structure Commercial Daelim program that still gave the clubs in the championship. You know will they think they can achieve all too agreeable can achieve but also brings essential beautiful? It just hasn't much much better fail to it. It's gotta be more powerful. You know you know when you go out to commercial market and you've got all of these clubs all around the country every time there's a game on TV or even highlights packages Tiffany with the NFL weighed about the same. Were ending going on around the stadium. Nothing that would be an easier sell personally and also a better use of the the league itself and just in terms of this is an impossible thing to answer. But I'm just a sense that things aren't going to be you know. Progress isn't linear at times and idea that we're just GONNA go back to normal and everything will be the same. We'll just fill up. The state is again. And we're a moment. This is a pause. We'll go back to normal The other way of looking at it is the the there will be fundamental change and the structures and the ownership of leagues and teams are going to change Where are you on that sort of continuing? Because if you speak to sort of private equity people they love moment lightest and they liked the idea that is chaos and they can go in and start to pick up on the valued assets as they would describe them football culturally as always resisted that in terms of well. I say that but that that sort of language certainly but I imagine that as we're speaking now there are a lot of people looking around and saying well there are things to pick up here. There are things to re- to meet. That will be people who all waiting to see how this plays out and see see how the only ship stretches close look I think the strength of the crummy league is obvious. Strength of the. Nfl is also cleats. we have you know unique the particularly with championship which is such a strong competitively played at a pace with the flow of faced us. The very very few others in the world safe then. We have the fantastic beauty of all game. I think in the further down you go. You still have all the clubs competing and I am someone who is a traditionalist in the football alike console non. I've always been associated with either as a young kid playing the game all the way through to work and must have a life in it and I also very conscious of just how much the football club is to the central off of so many of the communities weather. All you know. We've seen the situation recently with Berry a host. The being cold for the town of Barry Fry will happen to the Football Club. Go back even now years ago. Myself being a middle person and Middlesbrough was survive. The last minute from going under nineteen ninety six and that would have banned incredible loss to the town and the community. You know people get a bounce out football people get bounce out just on the game but they also get a bounce out of the football cook doing well and feeling sensitive only. I've heard a number of things going on this week with the football. Doing so good in the community. Time of Real. Nate without be just through contact point. Oh whether being open them. The cells of US Chelsea I've done for the H S. You know Abidine doing something. Really good up in Scotland need using human chain Gladbach that players donating wages and senior officials but bull has a real big parts lying within those communities even though that may be people C- achievements. I'd like to think I'm pretty confident. This is the view of riparian people at the football league that they would like to bring everything through the crisis that we're facing at the moment so that we still have very much status quo at the end of it. S not to say. I'm not never will see creativity which but I do think got to protect the clubs as much account. There's a it's sort of interesting as reading. Gareth Southgate's message always his letter just as someone who's been on the inside. It was enormous in as a very impressive and and it shows him as a very broad person which is not always the case for oil qualified. A bubble what would be in the process. What do you what that come straight from him? Would he have written that himself without being? Someone like yourself transcribing it. I've known since he was a playa. Hate one of my favorite people I've ever met in football. One of the most impressive paint level moment might life genuine using the afl-cio to have him as leader at the moment. I'm pretty sure this will obtain a conversation that was probably two way with the team under the FAA. Maybe mulling suggesting it will make our suggesting. In between the two of them they thanked. Pull this together. What I do know is Gareth. Being the person that he is a he wanted to do and Beta was being written will very much big Arizona. Personal was because his. You know his moral compass. You know his his sense of purpose sensitive to the right thing. They're absolutely than he is. He's a great great person and I think we've seen the way they handled so much in the front of House of Around the England team at some turbulent pay six seven months. He's just handled it so well. He's a great leader. And sometimes in days gone by would very much you being internally combs paypal trying to suggest things on a frequent basis? Should we do this cam? You this crafting something just a sign of with someone like Gareth. I won't be the case. What's the you spent your your time You know we know you from being the guy at England moments and at the press conference and your job and put me right. If I'm I'm getting it wrong here but there was a sense that you were the front line from comes perspective into particularly the national journalists and you had sort of you know obviously it was a relationship thing they were all powerful yet the big tabloid yet. You know the qualities at all of that but it was essentially a media relationship with the mainstream media. Now obviously that's changed or changing is that. Is that how you define your job? And how has it? What's The job today? What would be your job today? If you're still doing it. I think to begin with it was very much the relationship with the media and I would definitely agree that they were more powerful within the with. The industry was set up in those days. Obviously the Sony Barriers to now that you have social digital media The different ways in which you can you can communicate. I think the role of the commercial on his fall visible now as well. So it's a fall rule that you say is the when I initially started it was focusing on those t. Excuse me not. Meteorologists and building. Strong relationships wouldn't always be visible that it was working but I can do. It was incredibly important and date. Manageable situations bets at different times As my job evil though I went from being the person who yes was the individual salad being Charon press conference his being around that scene but as the communications director. You have a fall bigger pace to deal with. Which is you know. The the growth of the game is a hull psych. Hold COMMUNITY MONEY FROM PACE. No the cover competition is. You're running the disciplinary issues. Which are very time consuming on the international relationships. So there's a lot more to dealing with the press as wars as as was positive but there's a lot of time spent dealing with the site. Oldest is a lot of variation to the state. Now you've got to be slipping the team within the COMMS team of the F- either dealing with women's game doing national dealing with the England set-up with discipline in the different mediums. Ucla Munich actions out. The important community management is that I mean I was editor spoke business in the in the early two thousands at the time it was. A sort of. This was a niche subject. You know about the sport and the business bit to the politics of it. It was interesting to a you know you had the sports news lobby. But that's where that's where the compensation edge Charlie CEO. The dig column but it was a sort of marginal To to the to the SPOI- self. It feels like it's changed fundamentally that and the you know it's now part of the mainstream conversation. The fan conversation is very much. What's going on behind the scenes? There's a lot more sort of talking about the business. Bid The money the whatever whether it's a transfer conversation in football or whether it's the sort of finances of the media and sky relationship is that is that me overeating. 'cause I'm in this bubble of the sports business or is it? Do you think there is a is a broader compensation than it was definitely conversation which is not everybody some people still you simply. WanNa go the game. That's all the team read about transparency. But I think there's an increasing number of people now and because of the mole time and different platforms like this dedicated to the small businesses. Hope people are interested in it and you know whether whether it be looking at the way the club spend spend that money too why the commercial end of the Misawa ship broadcast rights which have become increasingly more complicated time default as well Just ever-growing size of football industry is huge and doesn't really show any sign of Disobeying the top end. So I think people are more interested in a lot April maybe one would normally jaws. Do people have now moved to well known. Certainly more publicized as something. I become very much fascinating. I was pretty sounds pretty one dimensional myself NFO style. I'd often spoke just so much interested in the broader business. Thanks as I football and just again. A property jumping back to the previous conversation about change. Do you think that there will be big European clubs in the NFL is of this world? Who See this. Is the moment to get what they want. In terms of the champion you know the way in which European foot boys these constructed. Whether that's a this is a moment or do you think that will get you know. The Premier League is always we over here look at it from a probably a parochial perspective produce also seems to be much more robust than some of the other leagues and therefore they're better off of it in in the premier league than outside. But what's that Guy Namic? Do you think that's GonNa Change? You think that sort of the current crisis. He's going to impact on that well. First of all primarily use. I think that they that Jen rule philosophy about togetherness Collective and US being Trentino In how he managed a collective underway the role customized Rights Day was. Well always ask people who appear to the tightening Elliott events all the humour Claus Schall around the Champions League Off I really hope that we can keep it open because I think that's part of the BBC of Ospel is the Yukon striving achieve things in some of the Mogae happens now domestically listed winning the primarily. You know even at the moment you know. We're watching things on either. The Is April when the mountain from two years ago Molin Nottingham Forest and Aston Villa to win the European Cup. This league right memories that we have from childhood and it will be real shamefully if opportunism took took took his Chanson and prevented from being able to achieve that. And I think if you look at the Champions League at the moment of teams the the relatively successful is she had a wooden necessarily all likely be novel is interesting. What you said about Atalanta. Wasn't it very dismissive? I think that was a mistake on his part. I think if you are a football fan obviously. We know that they clubs. We all know that assaultive Stella clothes being around the higher echelons for the longest period and there is a there is a out you know. We always to also we all to buy. We always look to you Manchester United you pools etc etc. But you've gotTa have the competition as well. I think this is a real danger. You can make something go berry. Sale very quickly becomes a club shop in America is totally different. I don't know they just don't have the the mindset tools promotion relegation but we do and that's part of the tradition of football out of the beautiful for me and some of them much Or you know that that these football not quite see it becomes just finishing off. Who was the first manager in the managers work with so what if I join Petah? Tiger twenty one coach was the first team manager. Things with Glenn were relatively limited than Kevin containing shortly after Kevin after the European Championship. Two thousand kind of go ahead of made you roll actual game enough position. Full-time was the England. Germany is a famous shove. Having walking down tunnel sound kind of looks up in applause. The crowd abuse going on. Someone threw a flatten count on the flow Completely squashed having insult of just take lane frustration forty familial slice writings and on Sheen Valve walking backwards down to commit a Haley wasn't post. Kevin Newman resigned. Obviously in the in the dressing room. Lambley in them I was. I spent the next hour and a half running around to the banks weeks alone. Why lambley Kraus's you down. Various people from the International Committee where that was called in heaven. Should've Darren Adam crozier Gracie to work with a day. Just want to explain that Kevin would be resigning. Meanwhile the nine stylish international players to Iran alone functions while it was all going on rally Chances went from Kevin into San Sonny Simona wilt with a very closely all the tabloid frenzy. Then went on. Went around was was quite unbelievable. He was willing to work with because he never was affected by it. And you know money's group of clay. As was she talked. The Golden Generation. big stalls. I commend you something. I never experienced before. Very few people have since Not Not team. Even though he didn't achieve way pass on the page was just an unbelievable Stevens to work. Around You know the game game muting Richard. The five one nine which was probably we look. Maybe that was the height of sends management time England maybe that was the biggest win of the Golden Generation I'm the end of that game when Michael Owen Hatrick does he's coming off. The page talked to grabbing for a teenager and he eats swapped shirts with the Joni Offended from Schulkin unless he walk in and Michael Michael Landon. We've totally salted with this guy. But we still accurate against Germany in Munich in. Not sure he's like how can you Tony Woodcock? Who was around during that period for Play GM himself a German accent crowds. How many shut down your media w massive eighty till you went out addressing. His enemies just been absolutely hammered. Five one went to nothing wrong going address immune swap in the dressing room which is again one office our experiences that sort of period we had as you say crozier was was an interesting figure seventy from the outside looking in because obviously can afford the sergeants archie baggage almost both you know insensitive and whether or not you thought that was a good thing or or not. That's that was the story and he was very much about the you know the he spoke very well to the business community. And what was what do you think the sort of is it possible to look at the legacy of that period from a young did the FA change. It's sort of attitude that look very exciting time out. Still you know young young person couple years of most of the mid twenties at the time out in comes in his early himself and he was he he just inspired people in a way the never experienced before anyone who with him I think felt the same each of the organization probably through about five decades in two years and he needs a lot of it is a business. He moved us from lung castigate to When Paul ball joined him then completely refreshed the Commotion Program and Actually We have the plans for the Wembley that was ongoing as well which is a lot of welcomes the time we bought land for. Saint George do not create refund mistaken and the point of the first foreign coach so he was only two or three years but blinded he makes an impact you in that period. Do you think the FAA is is different now because of that period. I think it's I think it's different question. Everything was not different aspirins period because he changes so much. What you've seen in recent years with the great level of stability by Biggest regrets wigan seventeen years there was just so much instability during that period without the chief executives chairman England and coaches changing a great deal of frequency and often a different times and not always calm. Mina that led to a whole load of instability. What you see at the FBI in recent years is you saying multi Glenn had a relatively long period in the chair he would very closely. Mclaughlin would have paid south guy in office for a good period of time now as well and I do. Think Outlook calmness allows them to make a lot of that or the decisions. Do the woods behind the scenes in a much more constructive Those during the time I was there there was so much good that was done but we were fighting final such high frequency high frequency in edgewise. Very difficult to build confidence building. Images of people admire respect and believing when the so much which electoral going around. It does it. There's almost a sort of it's the individual is the leadership versus the culture question. Guess isn't it. You know it's the you mentioned malting Glenn and again I automatically put him in a sort of like A. Here's a guy that's coming. It sorta seems to swing from. We need the commercial now of crazy or a Martin Glenn and then it swings back to know. They're not football men they need. We need a football person that it seems to go on. A pendulum of there are cycles. Definitely allow happy. But I've been very fortunate. I work with some fantastic people. I know that sounds a statement tonight but it's true united. I'm really pleased to see in what will Pointed to the AC Bay. A date yet but will come. Any aim was only at the show here. Time very close with He's a really good Related Vision he was. Well ahead of the game. Goes on the whole Tv right side of things and how you know we might come. See me moving forward. And he you know he Oc for a brief period of the FAA with Salmon. Green from baseball day things differently than so lot of different people who is und- that you can also all that different strengths. I always refer art two atom. Because he he was just such a big gang change but also from my own point of view he you know he suppolies Megan Bush microwave fall massively so I am all right. Just finish up. What does it look like today? What are you doing now? And what does does the feature hopefully middle's for the end of the year so being sending the last couple of months looking at what I'm going to do next is he's quietly decision for me I made a real conscious effort to get back home to the Solo. Sports Media Bait Interviews some people may have seen in also getting out into the small business. Dnc as well just to to you know being in a in a role was very specific up in the northeast kind of elephant. Wait a little bit so into Poland for me hit by Hamasaki talking various people bouncing full-time positions. But also maybe looking at some consulates work again. Because I did three three and a half years of that myself after left the FA. I really enjoyed that. What was very interesting with the F. Wales leading the year twenty sixty? I did some very interesting. They all projects around unrelated Sanni when he was buying lease of your eyes nose when they buy all of this. And so you know looking at variety for something that really I'd like to get big To offer You know with the the quiet Commercially focused than I was during my time in the FA So that's you know. Vote absolutely well. I barely turn on sky sports news on it. So you're doing well. It's like a it's at the day is that the only joke. For the millennials. When is it doesn't have a sale? When wins it wins bearing to not on Sky News? He calling I'm happy. We'll thanks very much for your time. Really appreciate it switched. Take Care Bye.

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31 - Wolves-Man City Pandemonium, Boxing Day Recap & Best of the Decade

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1:03:19 hr | 8 months ago

31 - Wolves-Man City Pandemonium, Boxing Day Recap & Best of the Decade

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But the marquee match of Boxing Day Leicester City versus Liverpool. What happened to Chelsea against Southampton jumped to their impressive win? It spurs spurs themselves. Come from behind win against Brighton. How Austin Everton Fed under the new managers Michaela Data and Carlo Ancelotti and we'll handout handout? Some best of decade awards. But we gotTA stop my friend with a crazy events that played out between wolves. Manchester City may be the game of the season with an atmosphere. Mullen you rob WanNa believe. We'll game a football. That was well. He would go ten minutes on the clock. Wolves break-away collision. Addison got got sent off. A guero gets subbed off. Bravo comes on and these penalty given by. Va Aw penalties Miss Fail. Looks Closeness counties. Retaken the penalty not say than the penalty scored twenty five minutes of Football Mosaic. Set the tone for a bit of a crazy game in some respects. And and and the sending off of Addison which obviously denial of the goal scoring opportunities Joshua food contact with the with the goalkeeper. So we always fall out was going to be read. 'cause there's no issue with that. It totally changed the balancing complexity of a game where city would expect in an would want to dominate the full bowl and walls would be happy enough to the city to dominate. But look to talk. They did it when they want to go through the on its head because actually walls ended with Moore possession and city with the ones who at times would say a little bit deeper with the likes of more as Sterling Kevin. Deploying a midfield had been auto a single Silva in midfield still the quality to wolves. Yeah and there's so much in the game. I mean you know towards the end the city. He was struggling that. Just a team built to defend robotic defame with the football and when they've got a man less than that's that's not on situation they can easily Z.. Handle let's go and you did make a change in getting food sent Abakan. So so the antidote without Andy Garcia. And so you think is the right kind of move to get another natural defender in maybe Take Away Yeah but I mean wolves. Wolves is just amazing story. What they're doing this season and roll the Games that they've had a rope league Success so far. They've is pretty much the same team that plays as every week and an improvement of certain players Adama Traore again was the main threat. And he's he's really a good time against mench city this season. I just want to go back to the incident. Robin Urban Edison. Now we know that is a is a top goal or keep is probably the best with his feet I think we both have ever seen some of his distribution in passing but that was era Ease is prone to bad decision is when you think about it that that that incident right there decided the game really due to on a no. There's a lot of work to do in. No no the the sterling with two goals and stuff but then going down to ten men was a big problem. Particularly defense is not that great. I thought that was a really bad. goalkeeping didn't need to do that. Defensively city wounded could spot. They get caught with the ball of the top yet again but I thought that decision was really bad and then on his remarks. It's an uphill task in it. You you lose your grain penalty great. It was apparently was no Laura's step on the footsteps on his foot rub. Yeah Listen We. Now he's maybe it's one of those V locked looks at its contract. This definitely step on the fully goes down. You know gives a decision. Encroachment is is minimal but he is over the line I think only cody combat clear it so obviously impacts the outcome of the kick retain again feeling. I think is interesting at at the time he went to take again. We shots pet cordell almost not change. We get somebody else to take the penalty kick. Not that confident that rob. Isn't it the case that the penalty taker on an increasing TESTA retail. A good good question. I'm not sure that that's something we we will. Certainly I check in and find out without team. 'cause patent was definitely saying he may not move to make the change. I agree with you and just yeah I point and Tim in terms of sable let let me just go back to a real basic point that anybody coaches with no anybody who plays level. The football were CONACO picture bowl with ten minutes in the game. Kick Situation Guess played short-to-medium pixies heddle an absolutely no pressure on the ball. We'll go ten or fifteen years to look up and pick out. He's going to think he's looking for Johnny on the outside. I and then just to make someone after Manchester City or just about on the halfway line mob went when conaco cheese maybe fifty yards away from them now every coaching course I've been on every time with a group of places if these no pressure on the ball drop off give give don't allow that space in behind China one below the top can cause problem bunches to city. Defensive Line is so high is so risky the Edison would almost have to be twenty. We all do outside. He's out of here to be sweeper. Keep it it needs to be to get that. Because they're so high and he's so deep gunny justin cookies and as you say they make the decision to calm. He's never going to get that. He hits the play game changing all of a sudden. It's an uphill task for months now. Some of those basics and we go back to the TAP Guardiola saying he doesn't work on defense and all those things. Some of those things rob game changes some of those things you have to do. If you're going to be competitive in the way that to be competitive I know they definable the Balon. No one eats about possession but the basics have to happen. Yeah and and it's a good point and Because because their possessions usually so good football so good that doesn't get questioned that much when it does get questioned. They've they've relied in the past on really great individual defenders to get them out situations like Vincent Company Walker at times to this pace all the port with his visibility ability. So the situation right now with it when they haven't got great defenders out there then they're vulnerable and you know it's just just remarkable football rob and I want to switch over to wolves because we we've said the same stuff about mindset. He will. I certainly have about that defensive abilities or it's just this season is just not good enough. Apart from the fact that got brilliant go scores. They've still got Tenneco was I did last year. Defensively is where they have an issue and they found again today Eh. I think we're GonNa Talk Some Wolves Robin Team and not performance and the manager. And what he's doing a mullen you you in the studio. We've we're home. Watch it with my my son and the noise coming from the stadium and the shots of the fans in the crowd. I mean tha- that's a tropical club when you know we were talking about the record against top six teams now. I think he's twenty four points against toxics team since they've been back in the League of one six drew six And lost six. I think it is now so they certainly don't change play. They have the mentality of of a top sixteen team. They played with that belief from reassurance and off after the game I had Neuner said we weren't gonNA change too much. The little tweaks within the system got Johta mm-hmm and and Try a little bit narrower coming off the wide because of the game a little bit more underneath Hernandez but they they don't change Geno of what they do. And it's a credit to him as credit card to the football club that they they stick to what they're about and they stick to what they do well and they believe it will get results. It's the fifth place right now. They're absolutely going for top four spot absolutely going for and they they. They deserve the respect from that. I mean the to please stop plans. Today Jimenez Troy are. We both got a goal and an assist. There will great together. You know the drag back the deputy goal as well from him as major late in the game and those two players really with the stars today. Apart from the strength. They've got one other areas. I mean the improvement of of if a dormitory when he's been to several clubs a nobody really got the best of 'em you know. I think the system suits fine. He hasn't got a run back too much. He's complained nice and wide at certain times he's always going to be a threat over the top with his pace and friends everybody and with his strength. You know he's always going to be a threat just Benjamin Mendy. It's a foul rope. It's a foul shoves him in the back. It's a phone out of the atmosphere. I Gabri cope with it. I get the referees depressurization decisions etc in the crowd. That's a foul. I'm sorry shoulder to shoulder you can show your strength and your muscles those story. But you can't shove somebody in the middle of the back of the throws them forward to get the ball. If if Benjamin goes down you should have done goes down you should which is Robin. Bush shouldn't be situation where you go down to book rob. That going down is good defending you just talked about earlier earlier. Vincent Vincent Company is a strong if not stronger than than Benjamin goes to ground. It shouldn't have to. You have to be a good defender. You have to make good decisions because just go into the ground because she felt with contact Dr Pinkus owing to the ground forces referee to make a decision didn't have to should the force him to make a decision. These things in football that happen the in situ tackles happened in a box or Auerbach's given us no penalties Altis outsor- inside the box outside the ball. CBS Foul at and not just the world we live in. Unfortunately but Benjamin Mandy is a better defended end and understands the defending yes. He got to assure in the Bach he goes down. He says if we play on but he doesn't go down. Which is another Soa Paul of not being a the carriage? So we're saying you. International Defenders went when you play when whoo-hoo who've been brilliant defenders around the world who know times a sentence them go on and win afoul. That's what they know not. I could defend the well-done. You've got decision that you wanted. Yeah listen I think you'll talk and reality and I am not arguing with relative and but but we criticize plays everybody gets hammered for going down the box a little bit of context and then we say stay on the feet and this situation here where he honestly didn't feel the need to go over. It was a bump from behind. He stayed on his feet. They they did. They didn't and the referee look. Surely that only only be honest. I didn't see that big and the second point and again it doesn't make your viewpoint right or wrong is Benjamin Mandy had three occasions I we run again after he gave me a sweet cajuns to deal with the ball. It could knock it longer the pitch and get away from goal enough to defend situation. He could not out of play play and then he has another chance to maybe play off trial rain when it fell in all go cake he did it in three decisions. Did NYE was trying vinyl. That was never have electric going over the line and found himself almost to the ball in an awkward position. And many as you say it gets go she got to pull up pushed now. He's right to shield. That bore up every right to shield play. Yeah it can still shield the ball if the German if Choi Ori Lori reaches around and he hooks the ball back or tackles away from of course not disagreeing. Let me tell you okay. I we'RE GONNA agree to disagree. Let me tell you. What my overriding component of vessels Benjamin is not GonNa Fall for Manchester City around the point for me? I don't disagree with that. I just think I'm going strong strong on it just is just. I thought that was a foul and I get the emotions in other games. I think that's given us a foul but it didn't and you're right. It could clear the board could anything but he's still got the right. You still got the is in control of possession right there in front of the ball on the shelf comes in from behind the throws a mental forty takes a ball away But listen I took on detail evident. Obviously goal that had any effect on the game. Komo as you said look credited tools The way they played their I'm bishen stealing their opening a great story. Great Great Great News. I mean we're doing interviews. After Game Maybe fifteen eighteen twenty minutes after game you can still get funds in that going crazy. I mean that's probably football club who've been a long time out the premier league and a bought something to the League went when they've it combines so certainly well tools the big game of the the festive Fixtures Khaimah AH boxing day elasticity second place hosting Liverpool of pool of gun often and win the COPA choppy. Will you know asking some questions James. What the focus is Albany fat? What did they come back to in the primarily with wanted trophies tests in the Premier League gone pretty much it was Business as usual. Yeah yeah any questions asked of this team. At the moment. They've got all the answers. I mean th th the travel the extra time victory against Mingo Over there for the club World Championship. They come back. They've got a massive game away from home against Leicester City team that's been playing so so well And yet they still still show the desire. The Hunger Anna combination of physicality and skill antenna capability and quality. I guess to summarize is that is is that setting them apart that energy and the quality i. It's just it just looks so difficult to play against whether it should defending plaza midfield players the Harry and make good decisions on the ball. They work very very hard. You know from the full bikes that we'll get into in the quality that they've got to the front three players. Roberta for Meena. That connects connects. Everything together I mean it's just it's a tremendous football team and while you know unless the been getting a lot of accolades respect for how they've played and how the managers brought them which absolutely the case. This game doesn't change too much. I shouldn't anybody's opinion of of him. As a manager of Leicester A for for the mount they'd come forward but while Liverpool in this form in this with this conference and with steely determination that nothing's GonNa get in their way. It was just another example of they. They played trump is a lot for last year. Rob Wasn't it. I think we said that. They both city Liverpool champion. Second Liverpool continued Utah and it was just stunning standards. The Manchester City of Satin inside themselves in the League that continue to promote them. I mean mean points total State fifty two points from eighteen games to bang on. You know to to to to be one hundred point if they keep going at that level and what I liked. Bobbi is the very blink. The approach of the money do about it talks about the next game. You just got to ahead of himself. He doesn't like team going to themselves and it was interesting when he was asked asked about the lead. Now that the top table in terms of what does he in the football club thing. This is what he said. The only thing changes that in the questions the numbers. There's different ten eleven now. It's thirteen actually. Don't feel it we don't think about it at all be didn't mention it once before the game game Because it's just not interesting. Look we we all know that we can make I can. I can ride the stories by myself. So the story is never before in the history of Football Football British. What but these team had a big lead and lost the lead so that sounds in my ear negative so why should be thinking about something like that via chest to be a focus on the on the next I can tell us? V play was Chevy United Everton top united measures united. Next five games. Doesn't sound like anything decided in my s to be understand it'd be all you have to pay all of them And we we try with all we have to make ready to make sure that we already these games so now The numbers absolutely did you not relevant to us. Well said Robin Swell said he doesn't he doesn't score away from the fact that there is you know would be a horrific falling linkin from not winning talk from there he talks about. It says it's just negative. I don't WanNa talk about that. We pause it for the next games coming up so I mean everything through even from blooming day. One really. Isn't it with this guy taken off the club. He's always said the right. Things obviously is motivation. The tactical side of things on the recruitment over the years. He's been there has been up so he's spot on department. This situation but continues to be level headed sensible humble all the things that you we all funds would wanna hear he continues to say and continues to to Agai this team to what is going to be a permanent title. Do you remember one of the biggest sole of Losses of a tight lead. We go two and you might have been up in the the time having played on Kevin go emotional. Kevin core opening to Alex Kinda Bait Him and he came mount publicly. There was a big public. You know I'd love it. If they beat them and let us draw he's he said I'd love it. God Love Love It. If they see it they came to be. I'm sorry from from Y SMALLPO- in that yeah we couldn't agree and we couldn't but that was that was just the manager Kevin Keegan who lost control of himself. Emotional Betty came out and and and not transmitted yourself to the players and all of a sudden Newcastle from top the league and flying plane his lovely flowing football found themselves under pressure. You just do not get the sense that Yagan Klopp is ever going to get cool. Call Open any of that anyway. Going to affect him always good plays all each football club and he's doing a good job of an odd always always instead to you the the emotion of this full time as he's this whole emotion into fungus absolutely brilliantly now to be fair is that experience of you've of great things in Germany Rob's he's been there before Kevin Keegan level hadn't but I couldn't agree more just onto couple of individuals that we got to talk about. I think we know we're going to talk about Alexander. Enron of course grabs the headlines and no wonder why putting goal two assists. It took the corner led to the humble that as well involved in everything and going going forward in terms of a right back. It's difficult to think of a better attacking right back that we've seen all even back in our day when we played than this guy going forward now defensively still defending around but boy he does going forward. It's such an asset to the club and it's such a great fit fifties local place for his beloved Liverpool. I'm what is doing right now. Is Pretty remarkable. Isn't it by now musty you. You say I'm starting to wonder if these many better full boxing in in Europe and I know he's still got stuff to learn eh one hundred one defending in tactically. Sometimes he's positions. I think it'll be a little bit better in in terms of the dishes. Away from me. Senator Boxer moms away from his wing about so many you learn and comes in time and people at the club. I'm sure we'll be making sure that he doesn't neglect not side of his game. But if you knew the pitch may it's frightening how good this guy absolutely frightening. And if any time he ends up wanting to be a right winger. Was Somebody defensive behind me. Probably do that role just as well as I think it it grew up. Plans Wing. Didn't midfield player. Why play so that predominantly? Obviously help him right now and you can Klopp of course bringing them in and and making them into this rightback is so perfect for him It's just it's just great to say. We love young players too while he was he twenty two or something he's still very very young I just thought you had a remarkable game and it's been talked about. I talked about him. And you're right you make a good point. We don't watch a lot of view the European Leagues and I often don't like these kind of comparisons because we don't know because we don't we don't see a lot of really good places we can. We count so I don't know but if somebody better than him then that's that's probably some four back so he had a special day for menial special day I feel and again the midfield continues to a marvel in the energy and and I may be maybe some silky more curate if players on other teams but the way that this whole eleven works together with a front place and those midfield players is great to see Really a brilliant performance would mind just touching on Lester robust last couple of games now city levels and of course. Please don't take it the the I mean obviously love what happened to this team with the manager and this club the question. I'M GONNA shoot my friend. Is I understand how lester have been built to this point. Yeah and the strength of this team and the attacking this in the space and the pace here a appraising and different. Why will they learn over time to to in certain matches against certain teams to be more durable again? My favorite favorite word. Could they have been or can they in the future because he is asking too much for them to be tremendously defensively balanced as well as being slick and attacking and is something Anthony. Brennan Rojas will try and work to make even better against a good side to be a little less open and be a little. Bit More compacting tough to play against possibly I fill in grim Talked about times in comedy. They trolley sooners play. This box candidate where thielemans When next to indeedy where Madison listen came in on one side and Zeal tried to play this foreign. You Know Brandon always talks about one team numbers in there. I came away from that one and similar. You still thinking okay. What can we do and do you know what kind of realize robin and they played anxious city at the top of the the top of the game? You know one of the best teams when you have no doubt Liverpool of Champions League. The James Madison Yuichi Lemons and usually Perez and harvey bombs. And not quite at that level. I think you know and against the very top level when they're playing really well. They're not quite there yet. Now that might mean little bit more work on the training ground understanding standing mature in and it might need an injection of quality by bending lodges over time to get to the next level. Some we'll say soon we'll develop ah to Alexandra when you play and you don't quite know where you're going to end up so might hit a plateau new thing okay level and if I wanted if we in Football Oakland WanNa go to next level we might have to the next player in so you you you would hope for them to get to individually by different place. More van Questioned the coach that given more time he can work on tactically an just looked James Madison. The trump was of course the German strong tough to play games so this is very different middle ground to be aware I would go but I looked at James Mattis over the last couple of games now and an ally came along and I think he's got a bright future but in in the two games against two big sides. Yeah ain't really Tindal Window. He hasn't really dominated games. He's not really tactically had had an influence on the game even from a wide position coming in between the lines working on the ball just didn't quite look the play and that's not a slight on him when talking about the very highest levels now in family Megan European football but maybe this time time to grow into that or maybe he's not at that level. Where where we're talking about ratified ad? But anyway might they're still doing great in the primitive in second place as a good cushion for them to main and on top four and of course that will be the target and be a tremendous achievement because the other teams are getting A. It'll strongly to finish in the four. Let's move down the table Rubio and the next one on the list is Chelsea lost a home to sell them enough to being. So good against and Spurs yeah While this is in the ten o'clock window isn't it. Yeah scams going on at the same time. What do you think Chelsea rob is this? I mean for my point interview. It's it's to be expected really Chelsea team not GONNA win nearly every game recoun- expect them to be at the top of the League challenging the top two and I know when when they start well in Chelsea started. Well let me see some great performances and against Josie Spurs and other great games as well and young employers to one and scoring. Goes you Kinda then. We throw up the expectation level for them and then when they lose games disappointing games have been a few of these now. They've lost a law game kind of Cook on a couple of really. It's it's just to be expected for me. I wouldn't put any more pressure or criticism that the the young players we've talked about a million times. The asking young players we can we count at this level and this primarily continued to be really really effective in creating the scoring goals and winning games. It's difficult. It's not gonNA happen all the time I think. Learn involve I think's a learning curve to the players. I think so learning curve for frank we saw the fifth straight trunk face again that we sure Everton. We saw against boomers recently when teams talk any he was talking about his team. Don't create enough chances. Don't take chances I just don't get the bullying and into good enough positions Tommy Abrahams gone a little colder with the goals. That was always going to happen. He was going on. I feel interesting involving Luke to the game and saw the line open and I know they went box. We against Buddhism will particularly well and not only find little surprise to see the Barclay now. I know it's called to change and you winning team. I was a little surprised boxing against Southampton who did not done things on the pitcher but family STARTED UP FRONT Adams as well CIA Shea Adams yeah and I'm thinking I'm interested in to be fair off time Funk changing round little little bit think to zooming off an move four four four two four four four one one on underneath the strike apple. I just felt that this this whole season's going to be Paul all of some good things some good some learning and Chelsea. Aw and if a great season is going to be talk four for them just to find space in the top four a good season's going to be top six and and a and anything below will probably be seen as a little bit disappointing contrasting with the window coming up and now they do have chance to spend some money whether he feels he might WanNa go and buy a little bit more expensive one or two around with a little bit more. No no how have been around the chocolate trout. Some of these young players out. But I'm with you. I think we're looking at two seasons before frank gets to where he wants to and some of these plays is just got that body of work and number of games on the bell. You know sixty seventy eight games while you start to know what you're doing a little bit. Yeah and just finally on Chelsea winter. It's it's the tough time for for teams. All these games coming up. You know younger players a guarantee Eh. Every Chelsea finalised right now I guarantee as a season gets into the to the spring and things are a little bit on the weather gets warmer pitches. Get Super uh-huh amazing again. Chelsea will finish strong. I just I just feel that younger players by conditions fewer games not the grind more experience. I just think in maybe play or to to help in January. I think they'll go again Chelsea. It's just whether they've got enough over the next second. Half of the season to finish top four spots which again would be fantastic. I add five francs Chelsea just outside and got him in fifth spot in terms of my predictions at the start season. Wouldn't change out right now. But they've got a chance they go chance four and and I think they will go again. Nothing so I'm just going to say yellow bodily Butler wins. Just never know what you're GONNA get with this team I. It's just a weird team. WE WE WANNA against Villa Tuna Against Chelsea. I mean I know in dining is on the band aid. They arrested him for the weekend. Yeah I mean it's still half of the game is to go there still in trouble of negation but I think now when you see a few teams belief you and I both the Radiation Zone at you just feel it just feels good. It feels good with their fourteenth right now. And then he table to thirty three points off the relegation places but the give them run now the momentum and some will give them an an. Ralph hasn't hurt. Let's been kind of like people love them and then people started down. Was it the players with manager. VASA coveting massive result. Yeah yes and to win. Chelsea's is is a crazy great result. So that'd be That'd be very happy about that. Recent form think about half Nelson. That was the best win of the season. So given a bit of confidence team. A bit to Ralph never-never about thing onto hospital Ravi most because obviously I'm getting against Chelsea and talk to now. Doom by frontline Paul wouldn't have please Josie Marino his team at home against Brighton. won't go down down and to dig deep into Satan. Hof Obviously kept a close eye on this game in your face to all them a little bit disjointed. I felt well. There's a few things on this clubs now robbing the penalty that I find an amazingly Fascinating we know that we're going to be asked on every a new managers But the new Chelsea with Franklin PA but spurs with Joe Jamuna for these incredibly interesting fascinating time. What was seen? It is my my opinion Robin. You tell me what you think. The way the the white you said disjointed at the start the game it's it's turning into a Josie Josie Spurs team. Okay I'M GONNA say is it's a little clunky. The football stiff because of what he demands a more he. He wants to mortgage team into being and at the moment. That's still not secure enough defensively. So set-pieces still vulnerable and other goal. Given away that way players individuals still make mistakes we August eager and the and the previous game that side of his is will be his absolute focus to stop the mistakes and to be defensively secure and in that process. The consequence consequence. Is that the Silky. Football is just isn't the same because you it's almost impossible because you to play expensive. Football players have got to move away away from defensive spots to open themselves up to be less compact to enable the football to connect and to to move the ball of the field. He doesn't want that because he wants them super organized. So this is what you see in. This is what you see and we saw it before we saw in the united where sometimes when they attack it looks like so how awkward and difficult because they're not really working on that side of things it's still gonNA Josie teams doesn't score school. It looks different and my notes. Here is like clunky. Football quality moments and that's what his teams in the past. And that's what this dispersed hymns going to quality quality moments from quality players. That's what you're required midfield players and his strikers and he's Got Quality Hurricane Deli get. The goal was to come from one no behind because his team want secure yet to win the game. Ideally Rob and all that. You're talking about that. I've got on for ages of all this. But he won't concede that first goal. He hates conceding. The first goal because sometimes it's teams. Don't money quality I just I see happening and I'm not saying it's good or bad because it's probably going to get results. I absolutely the Spurs. We'll make the top four because he gets results is just the way it's happening. It's kind of predictable. And it's interesting and everybody is watching Spurs and say we'll all we didn't play flavor while all this well. That's the way it's going to be but you probably going to get a ton results and get get where you want to be in time. That's how I saw this game. Mass always see this is progressing. And I think it's kind of for me going according to plan what we've seen from Josie arena in previous clubs. So so he's an interesting one for me so look at Liverpool's defensively also the best defense in the league. lessees look at Monto city. Who won possession the ball and we know that defensive issues when I see the other teams rob they have coordinated press to win the boombox sometimes high sometimes round the middle thing but it almost looked like I? It's IT'S A well-planned trained go to get the ball and then they're gonNA play from not situation when I looked at spurs a number of times that we can can that one person goes hurricane was going two or three times oppress looking beyond human. Nobody was beyond him. The the rest of the team in the half and and the council are they can call between two stools and he also made me think the Josie Marino is not manager. Who Presser he's not practice but modern football apple is become about Sin Times going to press -able winning in good ad is going lead? The teams have done. But he's never done that. I know what I'm saying. Is it went on what Sammy's Paul. What makes him different so almost a little bit old fashioned football? Maybe rob when you say you're seeing an IT looks awkward and people are doing on the road. What is that a little bit of hangover from the previous regime? Tina was absolutely press. They want to get on the front some great performances with them doing that. Yeah it's just it's still it's still morphing is still morphing. And changing and it's it's it's remarkable to see it. Because of the fluid Portofino the diamond the different systems and all this implant possession football though that they ended up going into after big pressing the star of his time at the Spurs. It's changed and now it's gone back to a more simplified structured and jobs they start a football and it but it gets always and that's what's I mean for us. While they hired him the funds have got to realize. That sometimes AIN'T GONNA be Super Silky but most often is going to result in victories. And they are they are picking up results of imperfect is GonNa take take time and he's still want to figure out his defensive side of things but I still like was up in Tottenham Hotspur Rob even though you know some funds might want more. It's just logging and I think in time things things will balance. It's really interesting daily. Elliot's been indecent. Woman thinks five goals three assists to cover with Marina. Now I'm Josie himself they. They seem to be happy enough. Rapport with how things are going Deli. What about you your goal is well Glenn Hoddle was on co Coventry and he said it was is well Coskun Joseph Marino? Make you world-class Donna. I think for me I just focus on each game and where I am period career and you know I'm still twenty free and keep working hard and like I said I just want to give my best every game and keep improving and yeah I think we had a great five years on the porch. And you helped me develop into into play. I'm now and I'm just GONNA keep heading in the right direction and make sure in a Deli alley another go from him under you. Stephanie definitely is brother is at another goal in another incredible F- performance from first to last minute. The way you you work the work rates absolutely incredible so for me. This little details sometimes are more important that what comes uh-huh immediately in the direction of the eyes of the people so amazing goal. But I go. I go to other small big details and his attitude with these is fighting spirit for the team will mostly. I'll send you this great golic. Oh was I mean the control to Maneuver Ah Ball from the angle is a sweeping counter-attack from spurs really good. Football was special Kenny. Kenny become a world class but failed plant deadly rubbed think potential potential Very two very he's going to continue. Can you the the production. He's got a improve his all around game a little bit. Maybe when the opposition of the ball he's going to be more influential LINNEA game. Lynagh break-up play He's got to become triangle. I'm Paul Play Chelsea out twenty becomes. We'll we'll we'll and if he had the attitude and professionalism of practice ability of frank lamb. I think I think we'd agree or Don. I'll let you answer but I think more natural ability. He's going to be a bad player. Yeah I know you got the because of the the the insatiable desire desire to get better to practice every day and his finishing. But that's again something to watch. Isn't it funny. You know the the folklore stories of wedding Josie went into Shaolin and such a front. You know you pliable. You could become a great. You got to work hard and a lot. Isn't it funny. That seems to be guy you know all money just seem to to find find you know we always used to the golden boy of the gophers boy. Just seemed like Delhi Alley is the one that he's very much founded on talks about his effort in the game and he gave everything and he's he's details and things do it. It's just fascinating to me how we did with Frank Lampard. Looks like he's going down that road. Julie just move on ROB is. It's it's interesting point. Because aren't we used to hearing him tear tear into players and it's not very often where you get him again if this is all part of the New Jersey but talk about in terms of some of his players. I mean it's Nice. It's just different. It's often like do this. And he's got a little bit about about the way it goes. It's just nice to hear eulogize about one of his players because it means it would mean so much to him to hear that you you know with with a manager like him saying how Grady Goodwin for Spurs and. I'm just quickly. We've talked about Chelsea and Spurs Robin terms top four. What are we thinking right now? Halfway in terms of that I mean I think the spurs can do it. Do you know if we're assuming livable western one cigarette top four is it. Is it tight point for you can united. We'll we'll talk united in a minute but yeah just in timber okay. Maybe in terms of those two spurs and Chelsea who drive them finishing highest. I've off Chelsea Chelsea bit like you said I think it's GonNa be open downs. I think maybe we'll weather change. Maybe wanted something in in the window down energy and dry. But YOU'RE GONNA get a little bit. Yeah I've just got Chelsea okay. Manchester United the salves undergoing Shaw said that they are some ways confident they can finish in four. We said I've said it Good United by was good. United States was going from behind from long goal on sixty minutes and then just and some tremendous form from the young players. That look a million dollars in this kind of Um yeah performance level is trio Robina and look and they both scored Marshall Getting to which he need I think he was. Anyone that lasts seven Russia's eleven plenty goals are so most of these after school in the season Mason Greenwood slight deflection but shot and and the boys in the way this kid plays is. He's GonNa be another stall if these three click I. I was kind of getting my head around. These three click is got movement. It's got pace is power is it. They'RE GONNA THEY'RE GONNA get goals. They're going to terrorize and hurt. Defenses with with the way they play could Russia too marshy. AL become the mentors to to to Mason Greenwood and almost take responsibility Eh and help. It might help bag aiming so do you know what I'm trying to say. They just say you know we're the we're the guys. Now I'm wigging to lead the line and we're GONNA announcing greenwood album we. We're going to school forty goals between I don't think so. I love this under the Moselle needed. We need those goals needed performance and I have been a big fan of his confidence guy so so when you say can it be a mentor. Can he can. Can he be a leader of what's of young four. I don't think he's ready to do that. Rob I don't think he's you know he's got to convince me alone young players or or even funds united that he can be a consistent leader for this club. Now I of course. I know that everybody is not not a leading time. He's got. He's got a personality. Marcus fractured his growing. He's turned into a phenomenal forward. And I tell you what I'll give credit to the manager in charge of the club right now undergoing negotia and he hasn't been my favorite manager and etc etc.. Tell you give him credit. Because Marcus record is playing lightsout. He has stepped forward. It increases the level to a huge degree. And you've got to credit the manager. Of course the former strikers Monday night sitting in in in scoring different types of goals Marvis had had a jump a leap and a an aggressive into if we haven't seen that before so so rash foods season couldn't couldn't couldn't like the waste going anymore. I really really couldn't and not seen as a team that's been inconsistent and sometimes it's body language. Not Look great doesn't but I tell you what's better. I want to see it from Moscow awesome. Yeah so why can't happen to Marcial. That's what I'm worried about others. Go to in him. He's big enough heart. We wish take no more. I'm saying the potentials pretentious. I know you're going to be the one thing. Maybe he's Times on the potential Zarab. I'm just saying if you can get good marshalling good Radford and they can get whereas they've been the kids in the past they've been the ones who've always come in for game playing wide side and and not felt like if they can in a no. It's a big though. It's a big gift but we seem marcus should make some steps and you just same absolute. We CONSI Moscow makes four. I'm twenty four but we'll when we played with the kids and the buys phaser sixteen Samuel uh-huh kids who come in and play like veteran so I'm just saying if if this sole thing for all they're going to sell shares between now and the end the season get more she'll go all of us now drinking absolutely talking. Let's see Saadoun `away Rubio Ben Me Talk Off Ski. That's what I'm talking about. He can't be just at home against the Yes. So that's what I wanna see from him and you're not engine because if he can if he can go to that level of of reliance of personality Mason Greenwood James to come into them. We're we're talking. It's just it feels like that. Frontline needs a leader. An even if freshman was out for Water Marsh Goto left the feds. Somebody else up front or be more. I UH-HUH I just I. It's just that frontline lacks consistency. It lacks Just a little bit personality. The all. They're all kind of young and they're all kind of a little bit India now. That's why my feeling is united. This season's going to be some good some bad because when they when they get it go in there that brilliant to watch the Fast Dynamic Doc Mason Greenwood is going to be a star. He's is is down every time he gets the ball. Rob I is going to do something. Even shot blocked hedonism venenum. He's just too in terms of that again. A long way to go for him is super young player but I don't know I just think united front three players deserve credit manager. And how he's brought on Marcus Freshman is just come on we. Can we count now united. Don't trust about Chelsea isn't it. You know it's it's not that we've had in the possible. I quite liked the look of not just kind of got the field that these three my locker to this company on and off the pitch and it might just saw. We'll get them going book. Did you say something to Luke a over a few weeks. Let's quickly put you on the two teams who are two munches. New Money is in. Charge boomers won all snow. One now divides boom stopping a bit of a rough for them. Sixty feet in the last seven Getting a woman guzzling the first goal and Obama. Young's getting equalize. Also Michael Chattering Charge for the first game of what we have learned. What would have liked to bow all snow Elim? Where would assume what should be done about interested in? I mean it's just fun for assistance to look at these new projects new monsters coming in and fantasy the lineup First of all what I liked I I liked actually gonNA Jackson Lucas Tura to hold in place that pretty much held in this state. I I think I got a like the fi the obamas in the teams team. Yeah I think that's important No No There's issues with injuries of of course and Makarios soccer at left back as a young player. And it's not his fault but but thus a weakness in the team right now. He made he made his decision decision to go forward etc.. And just go out. It's a lot to ask him play in a position that prime position position as soon as difficult for something needs to change. Allison was okay. I'd need it okay. And he got involving going assistant something so he he he he goes the ball across the Bamian. Finished off But I kinda liked it. Rowbotham motion see this shape. Structure could see what he was trying to do. The full things going to be interesting to see how that develops. Yeah but my initial thoughts were I mean. Obviously they would have liked to go in there and get a victory. It just looked a little bit more structured and not so much wide open. gung-ho obsolete also wrote the same note stayed in position gave it a little bit more showcasing the team. Listen Obama. Young lock is that you don't have to tell them what you hope they have. Good moments Zil kind of in and out the game. Maybe you'd want a bit more from him but I'll things develop. I think the money just seem like he was pleased. The things and after the game I think he felt that there was more positives and negatives of attitudes desire on Christian and commitment it was better than I expected to undertake define and they know us to play at his rhythm pilot of things that I throw in terms of attitudes were terrific. I'm still in a lot about the place how we can help them more. What are the priorities for them to be more secure when they jump into the pitch but You just started just just three days there and we put which to put some things in place and I think the majority of them were were good. My only one now is reviewed again and to find solutions to do better to attack better to conceal lesson counter-attack to defend better tomorrow. Prepare Goose training session for them to to improve world. That's all I don't look at the game. Chelsea or United States is now at the moment. The urgency is now we need an impact. Now there's one thing raw that he must bring with. Experience of working with PAP is intensity on the quality of training the PEP Guardiola demands and insists assists on and make a Lotta has been. They're three and a half years and he's seen what impact vac professionalism if you like intensity has on on those players in that team him if he can bring the over to arsenal and it might take time and some of the places money be able to work the intensity then. It's got to help them a ton that's going to help them ton and when he talks about starting to talk about the rhythm. We're trying to bring. I think that's what he's talking about. I think he wants a more intense more quickly unless sloppiness focus more competitive edge. If he can bring that if nothing else that helps again he speaks while Disney. Yeah and I think he realizes maybe it's it's it's a long list of things he wants to establish in the end book. You know it. It's one on a time getting things getting some by. Just I think getting good habits around the football club thing important when when you go into new monitoring you on a new. GM You want to get the players used to your way of working getting the standard each day and level each day navy save training might be a little bit sloppier might be a bit slow. But you've got to opt out straight away. Everybody onside unless I always think you'RE GONNA lose wanted to on the way he's wanting to ain't going to be happy or wanted to not play and not so K.. As well because you got to move this forward and and make a little bit Lena. So interesting chimes For Awesome Mikhail Tattoo affable global. We'll see how that one goes. It was on Final one is Everton one burnley nil so called Orange Lachey I much in charge gets his win dominate covet living with with a really good diamond head of actually to get them all three points. I think this was just more about the win as much as I got three points. The confidence of the group I mean he walks in addressing roomy instantly. On's the respect what he's doing where he's been the plays worked with talked to I see one or two things about all transfers actually people maybe in the window coming into the football clubs so it looks like he's already starting to Look at this quasi where he'd one interesting no Michael King. He was benched again. Not sure if he's going to be typing terms of rugged centreback so Yeah we another one. We'll have to see how that one plays download I did. I went back and watched most of it. Rob Who's on that that window Tenneco went down to see What was going to do any changes system? You want the three center because you said Dan. Yeah I knew. Shameless Coleman is one of them and just kind of interesting very different. Yeah so a different system cigarettes and played alongside Fabio Del Yard. Cameroon Planet Frontier But odd and Richardson were very tight to a front three so they weren't wide. Yes it's very close and it was just a little bit different. Of course we the energy at Goodison. We know the expectation was. We know the excitement levels with Carlo and chill healthy walking down the touchline managing the football club so again fascinating. Just it's just really interesting. How Different Man's tactical I- selections will make an impact on the game? We know from what you said Moyes came with somebody that east playing in Italian football. He came into the game midway through the second-half that could be some changes there. Yeah ask auditions in the squad. It's it's not small squads options that we will see. I think feynman delve is important to get back in the side alongside of cigarettes in a completely over so yeah just interested in Roman interesting to watch slotting how he works. And how tactically. He's going to try and get more of the squawk because even the MOCHA silver tried different systems into place. It never really went anywhere. This is a difference Change is going to take time of course but it felt quite nice with those front three pleasure Charleston and cavalier and being close together because we all offer a little bit something different if they can get close in combined they could be quite harmful with of course Sediba the right the right wing. Excellent game none of the much performance from him a look on the left hand side it starts to look a little bit better so of course early days first game. Great to get the victory but I kinda liked what I saw in this first much month. alty always good to get start their way Newcastle Onsite they said we'll see how he e fazal tune but Yeah three points Don't sit next to him this time. More than down hugging ballboys is always a good thing as well so Exciting Times I had forgotten. They got a may money in charge. And all all of a sudden you feel a little bit leadership structure. We'll come back to the football club. Okay Mister Monster. Just before we wrap up today we get into the obviously the end of the year at the end of a decade and so a little bit of fun. A little bit of Pub Conversations with over tasked with putting together eighteen of the decade so in the last ten years in the Premier League. What would be our team of the year? And so I I started off with a four three three setup You want me to run mine and you give me a few in that real obvious. Yeah bankers all you run through yours and all just say where ever ever so engulfed gone. WD although maybe the last few weeks wouldn't have been there was a time. When he was almost unviable people were saying? He's with ten to fifteen points season. Dubs of of of the course of the thing is pretty much now on my I bought four was Bench Lava Ivanovich Vincent Company. Jon Cherry Cezanne Aspen the quarter across about lime from from right and left. Okay so yeah go keep agreed. left-backs difficult left tricky. I've gone for Patriots ever of Manchester United are no it kind of is the beginning of the decade pretty much. Yeah but in terms of left backs I mean Ashley Cole. A game was beginning of the decade right back early stage I. It's difficult. The Left Bank wasn't easy for me which was aggressive. Compromise liable migrate with him. So that's the change angel of Patriots Everett leftback instead of Aspen Equator. Okay so you've gone ever. They're not change in midfield three I thaw and Golic can take your an absolute in Davidge Silva account believe anybody would have a team and out w silver in that now and I've got same as you With him and within good account but I have a difference For the last in midfield. Yeah Cabinet Brian has been real Kevin. Debrecen has got to be infamy. Instead of Torah I know you had some great seasons and some performances and was at twenty goals just think. We've we've been blessed with Kevin Broin. Ah In this decade for few seasons and I just have him in China after the midfield instead of your story only change in midfield okay. So you're in the Deployment Katy B for you as a big. Your young and ahead of them. Go One playland denise. The Chew Strike is one player. highlander needs to add on and strike partnership assiduous Guero and hurricane from me agreed that some. Yeah I I just mentioned in in in my group and it was a it. Depends how you choose. What criteria uh-huh hurricane of the child? Should you have to one child to being the team of the decade. Maybe maybe maybe it's just the the production there the consistency around game professionalism. Yeah dust of course the only thing missing from his CV veep. And I liked those front three Rubio and I wouldn't change any of them was I. We emitting a spot for Wayne Rooney but was raining Munich. This decade Kate really close to it. Yeah really close to it. I mean Luis Suarez the other one Some people might mentioned of a great forward and he was a brilliant Ford totally in the middle of this decade Acadia Yeah they they'd get honorable mentions I just. I'm a big fan of Lozada. I just think he's a brilliant imply. An guero I mean the numbers speak speak for themselves Over the ten year. So yeah I mean there's going to be arguments probably throughout the team in some of these controls through social media and the disagree stronger than those those picks but no you make a good point Rooney really good platform for for many years. So yeah that's a good show as well just just before we close up we russell player of the decade I think we might have differed on this one. I went full big Vinnie. Vincent Company must was just Colossus for me and mine who came as football belgium-born. You'd think he's an him grow. Manchester loudly wouldn't force four different tiles. Captain Team Tim was was such an influence over this group and if nothing else just look this season when he left the football club. Water holies left A I everytime I used to hear him do an interview. Illness Locker wanting to pull a strip on an be Paul of his team. The Me Vincent Company was the outstanding individual individual Yeah not for me. Same Club So drug WAIROA scurvy. Sergio Grab Robbie's if you look at his numbers season to season two seasons business is in the twenty s isn't the twenties every single season And I think I think the stats of got an email here with rob your most goals from the player in the decade six hundred seventy three hundred seventy three goals in the decade visage. Guero I've got to have a big moment. Where Muncie won the title nine seconds of the game aim to Manchester United was a huge moment and surgery girls at the middle of it? So he'll be my player of the decade quickly. Make the team of the decades so which would be the team that you aren't to go for the one hundred point Mantis. It's two thousand seventeen. Two thousand eighteen points. The possession the way they played played the dominance of the gamut was funny. They won't win the League and monitor that we've never seen before these Vincent Great Teams assembled finish primarily Bob Taverna group in two thousand seventeen just on another level for me. Yeah I agree with that. I mean I I in other. We've moment best moment Of the ten year a decade rebel show favorite moment of voice in the primary issue amount says Yo guerra the goal I mean you only have to say that goal and he brings has has on the neck. I mean city Looking at them I've finished second diamond. Each of the game combination play company makes room volatility toes in Guero comes against the goalkeeper. smush easy in and seen like you. I've never seen before. I mean one. That's why we watch football global right there for that. Yeah I think in terms of of a moment that can't be beaten that just company the decade. Another moment I would want to. Mention is less city city. Winning the primarily Tha Rubio Twenty Sixteen fifteen sixteen season was was phenomenal seasonally and I couldn't believe as it was going on the couldn't couldn't believe that they would stay with it and I and I tell you what I did rob I the last second kind of the last third of the season by I took all in you know because I thought this is going to be. This is somebody's GonNa and be forgotten or it's going to be lessened somehow about the team's not being great or whatever it was and I studied that team and I watched him and I just marveled of the energy on the the running power the physicality they steamrollered rob all the other teams and the teams with the players. I thought it was a brilliant team gene with brilliant individuals with remarriages and Jamie Vardi. I'm doing tremendous things To create the goals scored the goals and go to county was was phenomenal nominal. So that win. The five thousand to one still is a is a tremendous moment in history of of the Primer League really. It wasn't an new ways. I think a mark for the underdog as you just never know Brilliant scenes great chemistry cloudier run Yari without Tieman Tieman Yeah fascinating fascinating in season for For Leicester City. Listen may I call it. Call it time there We will get another the podcast in before the end of the year. But I'd say for the halfway point in the Premier League with dramatic couple of days over the Christmas period Liverpool maintain thirteen gene point gap to the chasing pack in the shape of less to win. A fourteen point gotten out to take place Manchester City and they still got a game in hand lookout for final poke cast of two thousand nineteen. That's on Sunday. December the twenty ninth after much week. Twenty book finale. He's must together with two songs for listening. It's so good for me and it's goodnight from him. Good night good night.

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September 30, 2019: Van Gogh Paintings Recovered

Today in True Crime

11:28 min | 11 months ago

September 30, 2019: Van Gogh Paintings Recovered

"Today is Monday September thirtieth two thousand nineteen on this day in two thousand sixteen ecksteen to paintings were recovered fourteen years after being stolen from Amsterdam's Vincent Van Gogh Museum. They were found in possession. Ashen of one of Italy's most notorious gangs their retrieval set off an international conversation about the connection between organized can is crime and fine art welcome to today and true crime podcast original every day we flip back the calendar to this date years ago and recount one event and from true crime history today we're going back to. September thirtieth two thousand sixteen the day law enforcement announced Dade recovered due to missing van Gogh paintings and put one of the FBI's top ten art crimes to rest the paintings worth an estimated four four million euros each at the time of their theft were found in a small hallway outside the kitchen of Mafia owned house in Coastal Lemara Dystopia Italy will begin on September thirtieth at a crowded press conference in sunny Naples. Uh there was plenty to look at in the luxurious surroundings things of the Museo de Cockpit Amande but the reporters all knew what they were here for their eyes were trained on two easels sitting in front of the shifting crowd draped with cloth but after fourteen years it was almost impossible to believe less than ten ten percent of all art crimes are ever solved feet and pens tapped impatiently around the room. Notebooks flipped open to blank blank pages. Finally the Italian investigators walked out in front of the crowd with serious expressions and began to explain their findings fourteen years ago on December seventh two thousand to two paintings were stolen from Amsterdam's Van Gogh Museum by two thieves. The thieves climbed onto the museum roof. Using a ladder broke through window grabbed the smallest paintings in the room and then repelled down the side of the building using a rope. Both men were convicted back in two thousand and four after their DNA was found at the scene of the crime but the thieves refuse to give any clues as to the location of the missing artworks. The paintings were presumed lost forever until now a drug dealer who had frequently worked with an organized crime syndicate ticket called. The camera head tipped authorities off to the location of the works. The investigation into some details is ongoing authorities. These are not sure how the paintings came to be where they were found but nevertheless they were discovered in the kitchen of immoral linked house in Castelo Estela Marae dystopia Italy each was wrapped in a sheet of fabric no longer in its frame reporters orders turned to look at each other eyes wide the Comoro was one of the oldest and largest criminal organizations in Italy dating back to to the seventeenth century centered in Naples and more loosely structured than the strictly hierarchical Sicilian Mafia. It was notoriously. Oh you violent. What did it want with Van Goghs. And why were the paintings being kept in the kitchen wrapped up like fourth grade art projects. The investigators continued telling the story of their discovery happily despite the unconventional storage situation neither neither painting appeared to be significantly damaged aside from some slight chipping along the edge of one of the pieces and authorities sent by Amsterdam's Rams Van Gogh Museum had confirmed that they were authentic without further ado seascape at Shelvin Megan and congregation leaving the reformed church in Newnan were revealed the paintings like most van Goghs were breathtaking despite their small size the crests of the waves and the seascape were captured and arrested motion crashing into those magnificent van Gogh Eddie's the dark lonely church was starkly sad. These were the genuine article thousands of miles away in Dubai. The atmosphere was considerably less celebratory. RAFAELA elite imperial highway was seething those were his paintings and now the grubby cops in the Naples. Police Force had their hands on them. How could that upstart drug dealer have ratted out the location of his art unbelievable the lack of loyalty these days He. I needed a drink. They'd seized his villas his apartments his farmland his plane and his boat now this at least he was here in Dubai far away from it all safe from the clutches of those greedy policeman and he could always steal another painting or two coming up the recovery of the missing. Van Goghs sparks an international conversation about organized crimes practice of trading stolen art now back to the story to Van. Dan Go paintings missing for fourteen years were recovered on Sunday September twenty fifth two thousand sixteen five five days later on Friday September thirtieth. They were unveiled to the press. The stolen paintings had been seized along with other assets belonging belonging to Raffaele Imperial Highway Imperial highway a Mafia drug kingpin and a fugitive from the Italian law had plenty of assets to seize but the van Goghs were the most remarkable after the September thirtieth press conference both seascape at Kevin Keegan and congregation leaving the reformed church in Newnan were left on display for two weeks at Naples Museo de Capita Monteray Dante and then held for short time in Italy as evidence in the Comoro trial that had led to their capture. The paintings went on to spend two years in restoration for the relatively minor damage they received at the hands of their thieves on April seventeenth two thousand nineteen eighteen they went back on display at Amsterdam's Van Gogh Museum today they draw viewers from around the world in part because because they're beautiful works of art but also because they're now tinged with the story of the camera they'll always represent the strange surprising relationship between organized crime and Fine Art brushfire alley imperial highway like most people well who purchased stolen art did not make his investment for the personal privilege of living with an artistic masterpiece nor did he buy it with any hope of inserting turning it back into the legitimate art market. It's nearly impossible to sell stolen art to normal art collectors. Most fine art is purchased. Just as an investment and buyers are interested in pieces. They can't bring back onto the market. There's little to attract traditional art. Clientele instead stolen art enters a closed black market where it's traded amongst organized crime syndicates and other criminals as a valuable bartering ordering piece or a form of collateral a syndicate may use a piece of art to pay for a batch of drugs or handed over as a placeholder until they can get at their associates cash for the purchase most art crime since the nineteen sixties has been tied to organized crime in one way or another because organized organized crime provides devalued stolen art with a new shadow value that value is rarely the same as the price the art would fetch on the open market imperial highway for example paid three hundred fifty thousand euros for his two paintings far less than the four million each show which they were valued when stolen but it's more than a painting would be worth to anyone not involved with other criminals since technically a stolen piece of art can't legally exist in anyone's collection private or museum and yet amongst criminals they do seascape. Eh Shelvin Egan and the congregation leaving the reformed church in Newnan aren't the only masterpieces that have fallen into the clutches of the Comoro and Crime Syndicates. It's around the world. They're just the lucky ones that made it out for more information on organized crime check out the podcast original kingpins. I'm Vanessa Richardson today. In true crime is a par cast original. You can find all episodes of today's true crime and all other park last originals for free on spotify not only to spotify already have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like today in true crime time for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream today in true crime on spotify. Just open the APP and type today in true to crime in the search bar at podcast. Were grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. We'll be back with a brand new episode tomorrow in True Crime. Today in true crime was created by Max Cutler is a production of cutler media and is part of the park cast network it is produced by Max and Ron Cutler sound design by Russell Mash with production assistance by Ron Shapiro Kerry Murphy Maggie Admire and Travis Clark. This episode of today in true crime was written by Nora Battelle. I'm Vanessa Richardson.

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FA Cup Final

Head In The Game

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

FA Cup Final

"ESPN game. Yes. Hello, welcome. This is head in the game. Your alternate. Take on the week's major sporting event. Now, I'm Jamie laying and this week. The spotlight is on the oldest football competition in the world. Of course, a speak of the FA Cup. Now, the current holders are the mighty blues. Chelsea yes. My blood runs blue. But this is final is between Manchester City, and what alongside me to kick around a few facts and stories the nippy dribbling wizard who can whip in teasing cross to finish with a bicycle kick. My trustee number two Rachel stringer. Get better invested these interests me, they if you were going to pick me in your team, and you saw me you would straightaway. Go that guy can kick a mean bicycle kick. But you know, when you have the lineup, and you're like, okay. The last person might be you. And that's because everyone else is injured. Sorry, Jamie breach. Listen, we got to stop this banter. Okay. Because voices ready. I see here we go ready voice. The FA Cup final in sixty seconds. The first Cup. Final was held in eighteen seventy two at the Kennington oval. That's right. The Cricket Ground when wondrous defeated Royal Engineers, one nil the original trophy was stolen in eighteen ninety-five from a shop window in Birmingham and has never been found Wembley stadium. First hosted the final one thousand nine hundred three with an official attendance of one hundred twenty six thousand although estimates put the numbers highest three hundred thousand a total of forty three clubs have won the FA Cup with arsenal lifting the famous trophy a record thirteen times all economically clubs can enter the Cup this season a total of seven hundred thirty six clubs competed in the seventies and eighties. The whole days television was dedicated to the big match and featured a hostess special shows, and it was always sunny watching clip. You don't believe me? It took over one hundred thirteen years for the first player to be sent off in a Cup final Kevin Moran of majesty United in one thousand nine hundred five spare thought for Leicester City. They reached the final four times. But never won the fastest goal was scored by Louis Sahara for twenty five seconds for Everton. Although he ended up losing sight against Chelsea in two thousand nine Chelsea the card holders. After reading Manchester United one million two thousand eighteen. Voices getting better and better that each week right dime to introduce our. I guess it's ESPN's Dale Johnson. And Alex shore, gentlemen. How are you? Very well. Thank you very much yet. Oh, fine over here before we kick off things. Have we got either teams in the FA Cup final this year? No, not quite United fan as you can tell a my very sad tone of voice. So no, not quite do. You know what? When I walked in here. I said that's a sad guy. Oh, fantastic. Nice to meet you to find a lost January moving on Dale. Yes. Wednesday is we've been nowhere near Nethercutt farm for many years since ninety three I feel your pain ever hear forest fan holding donor. Rachel asked you who you supported who do support is this some type of bumps a for Chelsea beating Wednesday. Savage. How it begins gentleman. It begins. Right. People of a certain age. Will remember the final is one of the highlights of the cabinet? Now. It wasn't just a sports event. It was more of a national obsession everything stopped for it. Why has it lost that impact of the last few years? Do you think Alex? What do you think there's so many reasons rich Amy I'd say brought top the tree primarily is become this monster with all this money. There's so much state. These days champ is Vegas. Come so important for the big clubs. They rotate their team far too much the fans that painful -til quit a ticket an essay in there be team play. This doesn't have the same sort of magic is back in the day. Don't you think it's growing a little bit more has done in recent years? There have been some magic moments are don't think he's ever going to be possible to recreate the ethical walls. I mean, I'm older than anybody else in this room by when I was I watching football that was the only football game. You got to watch shows in the mid eighties. It was only just in the mid eighties. Where you start to get the old league game on TV. So the vestment. People if they wanted to see a big match it was going to be the FA Cup final. Which is why became such an event until really the primary came along on the TV coverage became so saturated. So that's why he was such an all day event. Now when you call so much to watch how you ever gonna get back to that time. I know that in recent years from the TV broadcasters digital broadcasters of tried to go back to making it an all day event where the star nine o'clock and bringing all different people in through off to the game, but never gonna have thought same special status anymore. You have all these whose how'd you say if the FA coffin and whatnot, but like off is going policy in because of how big the primarily the Champions League of go. What was it about the funding? That was so great was it. The TV coverage was at the songs was the history. It was like the pride of Britain, almost you know, what I mean that was really blessed. My the first efficacy finals Acura member watching on TV you go Coventry in Spurs three two. And then you've got Wimbledon beating Liverpool. One nil. You've got the measure side Darby fine Liverpool. One three two then you've got me. And crystal policies who's three all winter extra time. So I was very blessed to the I I remember watching sitting down. So when you'll I won't is Coventry three Spurs to with an unbelievable game. Then you solve while. I'm gonna watch next year. When I wanted to next year, you would sit down it'd be on BBC won't it be starting days, you'd be watching the parade follow the teen Busca from the hotel all through the streets, and you real sense of occasion. Now that's come back again. Like I say, but it was lost for a long period. And when you lose that, then there's a disconnect that people go out and do the things, and it's no longer such an event, I tried to guess to make it more by having the semi files as well at Wembley or don't get start. He's a disgrace, boys. The point in making Wembley, this massive showpiece final when you're already there in the first place. He went to the semi-solid. Well, we have done it. Now played at Wembley brilliant. I agree with you Alex Jones. We're we're now making a friendship. So I I agree with you called me sad to win back. Hey, listen. They did that. And I can tell you until because in the nineteen Ninety-three semifinals are still Pittsburgh. So they played semi final at Wembley and the other semifinal with Sheffield Wednesday against Sheffield United funds the tube. Sheffield clubs are like, well, if ostlund Spurs a plane this finally, Wembley, why weekly awesome. He finally Wimbley. Would you play the semi's at Wembley? Yes. Or no, no. I wouldn't I would take them around the grounds. And obviously in Wembley. I opened one of the reasons he was done was to pay back Wimbley. Yeah. I think we've got passed that threshold now, I don't think he's necessary. I'm sure some of these smaller teams of got to the semi finals of love their days. Our Wembley wolves did who haven't been barely in thirty years until this year. I just think if you moved the semifinals through neutral venue, it would make special occasion, surely full, the what food kind of fans and some of the what for players that have never been anywhere near final shortly. It's kind of a once in a lifetime opportunity for them. Right. Yeah. This is the biggest game in somebody's plays lives. This be they'll define their career. What all your career for this of moment. It's much of them. And the fans certain players have been there seen it done. It cleverness one the league at United forever. And also the FIS is a great day out. What I say day out. I always find phrase a bit awkward with the FA Cup going for a day. It's nice. It's really important for my. She really wanna win. Okay. You have a beer and all that day out in that Dale for you a picnic on the hill. They out too biz. Got you all version of a day out. Really see it was a day out. But that's just me just been city. Day out. You'll thinking you'll you'll going because you're the United firm. When you go to Wembley, you don't get half. No four kickoff. Goats the mushroomed go get their hours before you meet friends you walk down Wembley way with all the funds to get into the ground. You get when you walk in you say the size of Wembley. You see all the funds of your own club waving flags and singing with a beach balls and all some massive occasions massive day out to give you a sense of how big the as Elson Joan is it on the re-present at the club and a concert that day anymore even cancel his concert for the FA Cup. Would you in the FA could do to make the whole thing? More prestigious off got so many ways you can say difficult. I one seizing. So that's hot clubs. Don't play it in the early rounds. Does anyone really want to see you know, veto see in the third round the FA Cup? If much prophecy Atkinson paying United on their on their own. Okay. Green you on that one. What's the second one? Whereas contentious one place in the champions for the winners day. I'm going to ask you know. What should we change was? Good about the FA Cup two things. The whole legend of the upset. People talk about these sites for years and years to come people will watch that running Radford goal the Hertford against Newcastle after year after year, and why would decry the FAQ stead house? You said before these goals will keep on happening and the funds of these smaller clubs will continue to remember these events in these matches the certain United funds employees who have the who had come to play their ground. Can you imagine? If you're sitting United found you spend most of your lifetime in the National League or the National League sell forever league is and then you suddenly managed to get a couple of good drills on you get through difficult rounds and gets the fifth round. And you get asked no plane at your ground on y'all semi plastic pitch. And you've got these plays coming into this little small dressing room. A you Sewell delights of the Premier League and everything that's putting the plan for them. And they've got to come to y'all little tiny ground, and you've got that little small chance that you could beat them. You could get to the next round. And that's what the coupe will always have. Passionate you are about. Now. I can really feel it. Jay johnson. I'm just wiped away tears. From that speech. Listen guys, you gonna stay with us because we are going to announce the result of this week's ESPN head in the game vote for the best FA Cup final ever ESPN head in the game. And they come final five number five. It's nineteen Seventy-nine and also lead Manchester United two-nil with just five minutes to go. United equalised scoring twice in quick succession with all the final whistle gone arsenals Allen, Sunlen produces an injury-time when to get the gun as the cop number four Spurs three two win against Manchester City in nineteen Eighty-one with Ricky has one ago, one of the greatest ever seen at Wembley number three in one of the most amazing football fairytales Wimbledon's one nil. Win over Liverpool in nineteen Eighty-eight the so-called crazy gang being a non league team just nine years earlier number two underdogs country city's three two win over Glenn huddles Tottenham in nine hundred eighty seven the unfashionable Sky Blues first and only Cup win and number one. One Liverpool's dramatic win over West Ham in two thousand six the game that had everything losing three two seconds to go. Stephen Girard's, thirty odd. Screamer force the match into extra-time with the Merseysiders eventually defeating the heartbroken Amazon penalties and that is your FA Cup. Final top five. Right. The two thousand six FA Cup. Final between Liverpool and West Ham has been voted the greatest Cup final ever and deservedly. So without a doubt. Now, it was an amazing match. We have very excited say because we get to speak to someone who was a major part of the incredible match its former West Ham goalkeeper Shakai Hislop check. How are you? My friends. I'm doing very well. We have fantastic. Thank you for joining us today. Nice to have you all and there's a lot of us in this room here. So we've got Alex and Dale as well from ESPN. So we gonna ask you a couple of questions about that final. When I mentioned two thousand six every Cup final Liverpool West Ham. What's instinctively comes to mind, the feelings that you get a bit of a mixed bag actually, the tune does two thousand six after go final was my laugh given English football to go on that kind of a note on the one hand and a bit Showa tasting. But on the other, you know, give them a book ended was a fourteen year professional career for me. I look back on every phone memories. As well. I'm from a prisoner note after I'd went to the World Cup of trying to big or so it kind of sits in on place for me Greenpeace and teams of the game. But the result making it feel a little bit odd. Sacco wall into all shoe is always see west side with doing so well, so close to absolute glory, what did you fail when Gerald is on the edge of the box winding up for that shot right to the end of the game. I remember catering the tunnel. You come move onto that before minutes of injury time played and Jared actually went down in Johnson down, you know, just about fifteen or twenty hours outside of okay? In the middle of the pitch. Lena school only have the ball in his possession. Each is topped it though for throwing ten or fifteen yards from all corners flag. And as much as Liverpool give us back through there. Then you know, kinda codes us down. I made it hard for us to clear the board and the Clarence as it happened fella, streets, esteemed. They're out. I like I see movements really was down on the floor. Believable cough. Cramp. So nobody had picked him up. And all of a sudden he pops his free as good even through a long wheel. And I mean, he hit that ball as well as anybody is hit one. And there I see let's go keep on the wrong end of it. It was pretty much in from the time left his expertise to pick themselves up off the floor and score that you know, you know, he's capable of it. He's still doing the only thing is going to happen. Because it does unfortunately. So yeah, it was an absolute kicking teeth. And again that I thought we had done enough to win cupping fantastic season for west westbound there I back into the Premier League for me going into that game a near there's going to be Milan English football. I thought what agree to go out. And then all of a sudden, we're just injury-time left. Not dream was dashed shock. I'm not going to rub it in. But I just watched that goal again. And really when like a bullet you had no chance whatsoever. When you saw go past you, did you think, oh, no what emotions went through you. Yeah. You see on the strange thing is a sort all the way, you know, so him coming onto a on a so he's just trying to react to it. But even so as a goalkeeper, you're conditioned to react and have a goal through this effort that regardless from telling me. I think he's new clothes. And at that point, you just hoping that you hear it hit the inside of the coolest thing, I'm stay out or just narrowly wide. But of course, it ended up any back of the net, and he called kinda cogos while as a result. And when you that close to the end, and until to have it snatched away, and that way, I it's it's heartbreaking. And it does take the window to the Sears. Momentum was always Liverpool run into grin into extra time. Just how much does it affect the team? You know, how do you motivate yourself again for extra time, and then penalties speak where amongst each other about football deserved. If it really were just from the clue from only greatest players are generation, you believe that is not going to happen. Again. Let's say don't know the next time not twice in the team. We shouldn't he we we played the better football up to that point. And you hope to take it into extra-time. And I thought we well in extra time we suffered in that Mallon hair with rent down with an injury. We already. Meet us up to two cents or he just had to steal. And we ended up play a considerable part of TIMMY, second half of extra time with effectively ten men. And as it happens that we did have one good chance for for all we and low and behold, it felt to the Marlon Harewood who couldn't do a whole lot with it from sixty hours. He was who he he could barely move. And not just right now, it goes against you at that point. It's a match that you kind of sit down and and relive you conditionally suffer the professionals to take your take things on an even keel. You take wins and losses. You take it performances. And that's how you keep your science. He's that's how you keep going as much as a look back on it with mixed feelings. I don't hop on it at the time. I didn't have time to help it. Because as I mentioned, you know, trying to big gonna play in their first ever would Cup just a few weeks after that. But also, I think we're gonna mention that people may forget that you actually saved Sammy Hippias spoke kick, but unfortunate pop and Teddy Sheringham all of your team. It's missed that penalties too. So you did you bit you played your heart out? You know, if it wasn't for you your team would have had no chance. Yeah. And these finals, of course, you you somebody's got to win. Somebody's got to lose. You look back on that season. I think west I'm as a team could be very proud of our compliment looking back on nightside. Maybe lack of experience and maybe not enough players like Teddy Sheringham to kind of lead by experience. You could ask the question which might bring back some even worse summation check like you just lost the FA Cup final you're in the dressing room. What does a losing dressing room? Look like sound like feel like a tough to be for a number of reasons and as much as you got players like Teddy Sheringham who wanted told you in the course of his career. Putting a brief is on it. I need had my ups and my own during the course of of a fourteen year career in in English football team, young inexperienced. It did not been dot close to major silverware. And and to to how that game as it. Did I think was heartbreaking for them? But then maybe. He force them to grow up and recognize him the realities of football, and I hope SUV them all or pets at you in the course of their own careers. Got one question on the penalty shoot our shock. You see these days you say we're seeing Ben foster with an ipod going showing them exactly where everyone was going to take a penalty might die. You see all the players with bits of pepper down socks. And they've got notes about everything. How did you prepare for the penalty? Shootout. Did you have anything like that? Just a case of walking on making a guess on every penalty kick, we need to have access to that kind of technology back into this. I remember different thoughts or techniques because using in going into Parenti shootouts BB, you know, I'll be five kickers maybe two regular Parenti take other three on. So I can result. You just wait and see what they're doing. And hope that'd be pressure of situation kinda gets to them. I the other is you you take some heads from of their run up TV. The have a look at one thing or another. I also. Own that this new you just kind of take each situation as it is trying to figure out, you know, is this a center phone is essentially, how are they generally the easy outage to grow across your body. So I right footer with to to to his laughing we go keep us. Right. And you know, if you stay up long enough, you kind of force them to to do that. So there's there's any number of ways to approach. I just kinda I as I see it because I at least three quarters because you have you know, nothing about you just try to take us from from their own body language, Sacramento. Save you play into fake funnels. We we call. It forget the the also game in nineteen ninety eight. Can you just give us a an insult insa? What an FA Cup final day looks like just before the game and the excitement the anti pation looking back on new Kossovo. Also, it's a long day, but an exciting, you know, you kinda spend enough to it. There's no one to talk about. And then, you know, you're dealing with with Krishna situations and tickets, and everybody's coating and. And then one on and then on the did. So she's invariably financially. Weather's always nice. You have to shoot silica prepared and build up your drafting. I'm looking forward to it. Which is why I say, so I think the experience about situation lends itself to whoever does come out and talk because otherwise it can be really overwhelming D And Renault different for us, especially for west time those than six especially down at the Millennium Stadium, and you know, everybody having your top of that fun. You get down. It's an exciting. But can really be overwhelming its second question as well. And FA Cup games. A whole we kind of saying some people may love them, some hate them. What was your kind of ranking of an FA Cup much compared to other matches that you played in. I I love the epica because of how much it meant to me growing up. I I've football grew up around two Beagles, and but that was a show on television back back in the day called road. Hambly which is all about the Cup. So I grew up knowing of the ethica believing their Cup was not just yours, but most prestigious Cup competition and club football to be a positive it meant and an incredible to me just just as a football five. I've never thought that they professional let alone play in a Cup final. And then to be there in enjoy the did on on a couple of kitchens meant an incredible amount. And I could never don't pay those experiences or what the ethic of meant to be then or continues to mean to me. No, I understand with our football and Champions League. Being what it is. And the really what it is that audience, but the child in me will always remember the ethic Cup for what it goes down. And that's how I feel about it now. And I thank you that have on chain Tobago. I can pick to you watching it as young stir. And you know, when they new year in a final, you know, what were your friends and family thinking of that everyone's trying to be agreed to that televisions? And you know, we don't have that many success stories to devote sitting nothing about level another professional football. Couple of. Earlier back nine thousand nine hundred ninety s and of course, Dwight your remind test United. I remember exactly how the country was groups during imagined snags would win Champions League running on that Trump a winning season. This not see him never. But from a country smallest trying to being able with not having as much to about the country again, glued to the ethic of finances. C one of their own competed. Football's highest Sakhawy involved in an FA Cup. Final song those six, and I don't think we did one in one thousand nine either. I remember. He missed out. No, I let me tell you. If I was trying to buy the rights of every single corpus. And nobody could ever hear me. Did you get to keep the suit says? Well, yeah, we did. I've no idea where they are not. Shack. And thank you so much for joining us in the studio that is so Connie be real legend and mazing insight into what the FA Cup out. She generally feels like thank you so much for joining us. Really? Appreciate it. A really good fun live in his beverage. Thank you, very Levy to hear them. Thank you goodbye. Right. Yes. ESPN? Shock. What a lovely lovely man and the legend in the sport. Yeah. Size area stories loved them. So we can reflect on the top five. Do we think deserve a number one? What do you think? Alex. I mean, it wasn't a life over you read about it. And you've seen the pitches. The Matthews follow nine hundred fifty three sustaining Matthews. The only player to be knighted while playing the game funding on the FA Cup at the third time of asking black hole for and three is called the Matthews. Fella. No. So I wonder how STAN Mortensen fills because he scored a hat trick. But it's called the Matthews final. But that will be my one because what it meant to methods, and how topsy turvy you have just said, no, it's not deserve. It. You could assess insight. That here for hopefully, what do you think? Do you think deserve a number one spot? I think he is a classic. Absolutely classic is going to be the top of the list for for anybody. I mean for me personally because he was the first FA Cup. Final. For the Coventry three Spurs two-game because no one expected it keep housing school at one of the best goals, you'll see an absolutely majestic diving header and then of calls the horrific own-goal by Gary mother that gave the victory to Coventry and extra time. But one game is known the which I'm really sorry to bring this one Sheffield Wednesday with two and a little pin the nine hundred and sixty six co final then lost three two on to the state of the only team to be to gills on losing finally normal time with eleven men on the pitch. There are many Cup finals that were missed and probably should have been in the list rates. Do you have any other favorites? Well as long as favored by the ninety one game Spurs versus forest. I mean for us should definitely have won that game just saying boys when were more, obviously, I was very very young as one years old Gaza should have been sent off not stretch it off what about Wigan beating Manchester City in two thousand thirteen dot was huge the story of that was that was the they got relegated. So they won the FA Cup. And then the next week. They went down, you know, that's. Kind of. Stories ever Alex your city fan. So would feel about that quite quite fantastic for Wigan. And I'm sure there's some sort of gag about Watson elementary some sort of defending this elementary Watson zone getting that what a moment for him and for Wigan them. Sure, lots of Wigan funds would take the relegation for the ethical. You've always got the chance to get back to the primitive some point. How many times again we're gonna Affleck get to FA Cup final and other chance of winning it and beating the team. I mentioned a city in the circumstances. What about the two thousand fourteen arsenal hall match? What do you think about that? One other game actually full enough and tuned to hell after eight minutes that attempts to mission gneration three Neil. No believe what they were seeing cars in the press box. And everyone's just looking around as just a gas. That is really gonna mess this final up cost. You remember it's been so long since trophy supposedly end of the drought. This was the nailed on win. And then go go back, right? Just before half-time Siemens. I'll go in you know, there's only one thing happening here that was because all is free kick three to Oslo ostlund the end. But it was a brilliant Epoca final. We go back a few years nineteen Seventy-three rates. You know what I'm talking about? Remind me I was around that. I'm sure you were live than new Sunlen defeating leads one new down to big one the Bob Stoker. Final say. Another iconic ethic moment, plenty of them moving on to talk about the crazy gang. And I guess the reason they're in our top five is because they became such a story. They've been relieved chasta about so much. There's documentaries on them the larger than life characters that came out of that game against Liverpool. It's out so one that would be maybe a little bit higher up in your opinion. I mean one thing about this game. Is it didn't have loads of goals, which is why doesn't really get mentioned so much, but it's no simple as the tune in bit of pepper. You've gotta remember Liverpool with this all conquering force of English football, and how being for ten twenty years and just went everything that can befall most of the time. And then they get the final against Wimbledon. This small team that come through the divisions against all the odds. And then they were playing the mighty Liverpool. Final. There was only one team that could possibly win this game. And of course, a penalty to Liverpool. John Aldridge is going to have to score it on. It was saved the first ever penalty save. And if it could find as well by Besson and Laura. Sanchez gain. The winner is incredible Wimbledon were a non league team nine years before that which adds to their whole legend of the Cup. And I'll always remember was it since commentary the crazy gang of beating the culture club. That's right. Just a fantastic line to some of the day. And after a word number three already. That is why we love the FA Cup in my opinion. It's stories like that. We're going to talk about Saturday's game. Okay. Now. Honestly, do what I have any chance to that playing one of the best teams that have ever played the domestic game. It's Manchester City. What do you think Alex absolutely where we've just been speaking about city being expected to be weakened and they completely messed up and what they're having fantastic season. They're packed full Likud players telephones in exceptional form. There's no pointing you're going to steamroll because it's been a long hard season for them. And you get these unexpected result. Sometimes okay, it would be slightly unexpected. It wouldn't be a massive show Wofford of how to find season you can't say that of God, no chance at a lot of people will feel bumming Mancha. Fans are going into game. Despite all the successive hounded in last night decade beggar into most games fearing the worst they'll look into this game thinking that we're gonna lose it Wofford. So it's almost a home game for walford at Wembley absoluteness city of still go. I mean, they've had all these rich Isen success last couple years. They still this thing called typical city. So whereas something bad could happen. It will happen to city. And I think I feel fading. That was the game boys are gonna stop you there for a second. Because we have our SEPA fans who are gonna come in the studio now will you come back later for the quiz, bringing wild horse. You can keep you in love it. Right telling process superfan feature. Now in a moment, we'll speak to Manchester City, superfan, TV and radio presenter, Nutley pike. But I in the studio it's welcome to Wofford seep event. Michael yet? How are you my friend? I'm kidding here. So you a what fan? Yes. Okay, fine. We covered that bit. How long have you been fan? And why I hate you asking why he defined by break show. You misheard me? How long have you been fan and why such as well? I was dad's first game. So it was go east go to the games without oversee from bushy around the corner ever since then really and. Family fits best. May we used to go him and his dad's going up in Jesse host? This is true. I heard that you a mascot. The penalty. Shootout on me, you know, this time. It's the Perisher our school mascot was rubbish that we lost freedom. So you're against the Moscow and the penalty. To separates you separate cones. But you know, when you take a penalty at halftime as well. You don't actually get what for keepers. So who did you get located now one just go? Well, obviously. But also was quite strange by which is to raise that you school that penalties a kid, but you're a mascot last year. You know? Got you. Stupid again. It was okay. But how is it the, you know, an adult Spurs fan because I would that's what you expect right living in the area and things like there are no for Embiid. She's just round the corner from warfare. And we'll say it's fun being also also told and finance. I mean, it's great being Wolfer fan. You know, it's pouring in the lower leagues coming up through the ranks and way at the semi final. So I was working by mentioned nip out to the pub. And I was the only person watching the game the only Wofford fan, and I was going mental by the end of it everyone. The publishing mentioned nip out. Yeah. Nineteen minutes. Civil matters nipping out like going home. Go the stuff to cover Nacer Rennick. Rennick all mates with everyone. Was there pushing it can work with? Well. We didn't go to semifinal. You watched. It kind of I work at work in a pub viable tickets for the final. Yes. Up to here. Yeah. For sure. How do you feel as a fan is an amazing thing that you're in the final as incredible absolutely is mind blowing you when when that they're not funded with some blue against moved is incredible. It was just your own before as well. For fan. Growing up seeing playing league to gain renegade been meteoric attained to now being ethical follow is mazing. It's incredible. Just hold that thought about being in the final because you've got take it. But I think you've failed to tell us what you're missing to go to that final four, isn't it? Important. It's more nephews christening are missing on the lifetime. Always you know. It's all may I would miss Anna heart. Exactly exactly this conversation to be had horrible. I haven't I she told my sister yet. So fully goes our begging recalls. Yeah. I was just gonna say how are they feeling? But they don't know. No mom knows. And sees she's well, she's just has over here. But interesting enough, Michael this is this is what second appearance in the final. But you're probably too young to remember the. Yeah, I am what does the atmosphere around what people excited are they nervous. What is it? Like the town is just is completely you walk around town. Everyone's wearing Wolford shirts. Now, you know that bunting off the final all pubs zip on display with them barbecues. Everything it's it's it's going to be a whole day, which is incredible. It's great. You know, it's going to win or lose. It's apply. It's kind of all day, and they they wear are you gonna get back the christening and celebrate. Been better, Nick. He he started off with ads downfall having a few points. Enjoy the game. And we will only go back and continue as you can. Jan you're saris Atta christening that'd be bad. No, you celebrate the Cajun's ins and being part of it. I hope you've got a president. So this is the best thing to happen to what food for one hundred twenty one years since Las ethical final. Right. No. This is the best thing to happen to what I for one hundred twenty one year if we win. Not as amazing opposite mazing. How big a deal are you and your fans and your friends would thinking it is we never fall would be in this situation before we go into final is what fans support your beloved team gang in the end the dog. Yes, for sure, but everything we're were as big runs Oguz perhaps hallways was when they went against all Wigan when they went into get re do you think they're going in as an underdog anymore? If what? Underdog to Manchester. How well they've been playing this season. Okay. Farinelli cooking. I wanna ask you something micro d remember Elton John crying during a by. With me I've seen oversee the footage Bor. Loyd then to scene, but the fetishes pretty amazed officious guy Edward Susan. And that just really personifies bought these kind of moments mean to what we know a fashionable club. You know, it's it's it's always fashionable to support your you talk. Them's you live pool's heated, you support your home team. It's it's not what the norm these as really you're going is an underdog. But I guess you're gonna take maybe some hope I guess from like when Wigan beat land city g look games are lacking. Okay. If they could do, and then they got relegated. We can do with playing. Well, we're doing well in the league this year. Sure. Yeah. We're having a phenomenal season amazing season where the team than what we can work when they went into that game. So you know, why not? Yeah, we all massive underdogs. Bob, you go to believe. Right. And you gotta train, and it's not still be on the roads facility. We go to stop that for one second because we have Natalie pike radio and TV presenter who is our man city superfan on the line Natalie. How are you? Good. Thank you. How are you? Good. Thanks for coming on. We've got Michael in this day. Who is what fan you don't just support city your presented for Manchester City f c tell us a little bit about that. Why and fifty square we as an amazing much day experienced an not stay program that puts on for every home game. It'll be. A big stage outside and we have outside bars have outside food paces. And we do like celebrity guests abandoned, we give away we talk about the game. We analyzed the game. You know, do the team she read, and it's brilliant. It takes place two hours before the game every single home game. And yes, I bet used feet a lot of funds as well. When you're doing that job. And let's just hey, you're saying in the buildup to the FA Cup, but they really confident. Yeah. I think most safe funds are confident. But no, I begin. We're not Liverpool funds. We know that we're good. You know, we know that when we played the best football that we can. We know how amazing we are. But we also still remember the days where we were totally rubbish and not that long ago. We were in that fake Cup final when we played wicked, and we will be invited him. And I wish that and I cried. And so we all confident because we know that with the best team in the country on all day. But it was certainly not IRA. And we certainly don't think in the back. We were just mentioning that actually when we're gonna oversee one, and then got relegate, and we're just trying to Michael and this will be about that. And he, you know, he was kind of I guess taking little hope from that moment from the weekend. But if you working the final as well, I know I'm not working to final. I'm just going purely as a fan yet me and my husband are going for the weekend, the baby's staying home. So hopefully, it'll be a nice proper celebratory weekend. I guess you're a couple of who really make a day out a day tripper weekend trip. Of an FA Cup. Final. Definitely. I mean, it's really special. I mean, I'm looking that have been to require a lot of times, you know, in the last eight or nine years, we've really four times we've already will never say to another ethic final and then of the semi finals at the FA Cup while I've been to Wembley a love. But it's just something a bit different about an FA Cup final. You know, it's first trophy that we one of the Montenero the first trophy I ever source Wayne, which the coach. So we always have special memories for us. And yeah, we live in north Wales. So we're going to come down to the big city for the weekend and make a fool weekend of it. Primarily Oeser surprising to say that in this millennium city of only one there at once beating stakes seventeen thousand eleven no very memorable. Okay for neutral. But what do you remember of that day? How amazing was it for you with huge tree specially was and I think trophy that. We'd run the Montenero the first trophy the I had. Ever ever seen swin and until that point in my life. We'd never really worn achieve anything and the biggest game until that point within nine thousand nine and playoff final that we won't worry individual to that took into into the championship to be at Wembley until win. And to win a real trophy for the first time. It was it was absolutely amazing. And I think that's part of the reason why we love their fake up so much. Do not see though some say city the best team to ever plan this country. Okay. You must have to pinch yourself. Sometimes I think this is your team. Oh, yeah. Pinch comes to naming the season tickets for twenty one days. So I got my season ticket in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight when we wearing division two. And we were and then so I seen get relegated gets division to you. Then I got season ticket. And then we had you know year in the championship. Incredible promote it, and then we relegate promote it, and then we'll link it in the primarily this made cable ish so to now be playing the standard. Football that we are with the world's greatest money. Arguably the grades manager ever to to be in football. We some of the world's best players. Oh, yeah. Pinch ourselves every game. We've opposite experiences right now forest fan. So we have the wonderful times. And I wasn't even alive. He won the European Cup. Do is Jamie. Do you know what not gonna ask you a quick questions? Well, this is the cumulation of an incredible season with the first ever domestic treble off for grabs. Does not make the Cup final even more special. I really think it goes to win all fraternities that were available to us in this country in one year would be absolutely phenomenal. Really would just talk. What's been really special seasons? So I'm just going to introduce back. The what for two you found Michael t Netflix? He's been sitting here listening to what you have to say about that final and how much Mike would you like to upset cities chances of that travel? We'd love to be raising the incredible. The thing is thanking the fire now. Okay. I'm gonna ask you to now. Nutley? I what do you think the school is going to be? I think we'll I think we'll most likely stolidly win the game. But I don't think it'll be anything crazy. So I'll probably just sort of say to Michael has a raised eyebrow. Solidly trade not crazy in the game. What do you think the school is going to be a very optimistic free onto the horns, ready and? Then you've those twice in the league in this year. How can you be so optimistic? Oh. The second game terrible decision. We go back in the game say that. Yeah. That's always great. So he'd never night and it's like a home game. Set Wembley, just round the corner. Yeah. That Manzini does have any time taint athletes like. It's like yellow second date here. We'd be not many times. Also, like the fact that not the USA. You know, I think we might win Michael straight out. Yeah. I was going to be three one. Yeah. Hey, listen. Good luck to the both of you nasally, Michael. Thank you so much. Joining us in the studio, Natalie good luck, Michael even better largest, thank you so much CPA fans. My favorite part of the show. We have Dale and Alex back in the studio, boys. You ready for this bring hill and come out? Yes. Okay. Voice. Are you ready? I am ready, Jamie. How are you? Here we go Rachel. I was gonna say I'm also ready had forget me. It's time for the quiz. Yes. It's their head in the game quiz, Alex, Dale, Rachel and Jamie. Are you ready ready as Rennie's yet? Thank you question. Number one, multiple choice. Alex I and the first two FA Cup finals after World War Two two events occurred which had never happened before. Or since the match had to be stopped, the bad weather, the the ball burst. See the referee had to be substituted. You to injury d it was free entry. Or tough. He didn't tell me it's gonna be this tough. I'm going to go full bowl. Burst is correct. Looking forward. Today, which club is held the trophy for the longest period. Hey arsenal. The Portsmouth see Manchester United de Bolton. Wanderers? I want to go see here. Manchester. United Paul Smith. When it was be. But. You are correct. Portsmouth for the last team to win the Cup before World War Two and the competition was postponed for seven years. Well, done Dale, Rachel. I think this is going to be an easy one now which club holds the unique distinction of winning the Cup and being relegated in the same season. I think we know now. Hey, wagon be Sunlen. See middle's de Spurs. Yes. Come home from Wigan, absolute Kimmy. Novenas? Overdraw fellows, okay scandal. Jamie not eating this week. Thank you, which of these football legends. Never played in a Cup final. Hey, Peter Shilton be George Best. See Bobby Charlton de Kevin Keegan. I kept the hardest one. I'm gonna go for D, which is not shelving, Keegan Kevin Keyes Shelton. Kevin Keegan Kevin Keegan is incorrect. It was be George. I was going to go for best. Couldn't be never mind true or false round to Alex. I a a non league team has won the FA Cup trophy offals. Who true? It is true. Any idea who it might be a problem out spur very good tale for day. Oh, sorry. Sorry. I was going to say that those very rude. Memphis, very impressive nine thousand nine hundred one before they were league team with Kevin Keegan. And Peter shelter. Day'll be in the nineteen fifty-six six Cup final. But Trautmann Manchester City's goalkeeper broke his arm but carried on playing truffles. That's false. It wasn't. It was it was neck story who's playing. This is question. We're going to give you that one day said full. Correct to give the unsustainability rudely. It was was your call elaborate. It was his neck. Rachel Wiggin song for the two thousand thirteen. Final featured manager Roberto Martinez playing the Morocco's draw falls. It is false. Although I bet he could de Jamie a non English team has won the FA Cup trophy holes. It's going to be a trick question. True. Damn you. Boys. Cardiff Cardiff City in one thousand nine hundred twenty seven my goodness. It's very very close quickfire round. Hurry up now FA Cup. Final win. Roll loser. Alex Crystal Palace. 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 In black and white: why Newcastle United fans want Mike Ashley out

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In black and white: why Newcastle United fans want Mike Ashley out

"Today the football fans taking on their clubs billionaire owner and beauty pageant applications are on the rise but but has anything changed this part. The ground here is sam. The gallagher corner was basically need lots corner of the ground it was said probably the most role as to us look like expression rajhi's went. This was it'll be placed in some fantastic four was going back to the fifties and sixties when this place was absolutely swarming where people are just sums up the enthusiasm. There is for football on this <hes> this fantastic would flawed football clover support for newcastle united fans. James's is park stadium right in the center of the city is the heart of club but now it has also become the backdrop for boycotts awesome protests as supporters make a stand against the clubs billionaire owner mike ashley also owner of the highstreet chain sports direct and does he bought the club in two thousand seven the stadium has become almost one big advocate for sports direct with signs all over the grounds its defilement deferment of the football ground and just on the roof that sports direct them that is exactly where the club crest should be. It's kind of a in my opinion. It's like our sponsor your welden written both you have to put linear may on your wife's wedding dress. Mike ashley is renowned for buying failing brands at rock bottom prices and for making savings at every possible possible ten but now things are looking uncertain for some of the big brands in his empire shares in sports director fallen to an eight-year low in response correct says it regrets rescuing house of fraser as one that there will be more store closures. Mike ashley said the problems of the department store would nothing short of terminal. I hope you worried about the tax bill. No ordinary we find poetry yes tacky concerned of minor was go on yahoo. Strong keeps become and newcastle united fans a worried about the club's future. The premier league starts today and on sunday. There's there's a planned boycott of newcastle's first match the season against arsenal to send a clear message to ashley that he's no longer welcome on tyneside from the got in india wrexham today infocus mike ashley thus the fans who will win in the battle for newcastle united. They just let you know there is a little bit of strong language in today's program. It's just your new kathy united united fan. I am from hartlepool bush a lot of people from hartlepool in newcastle funds to take when when i was a kid with with all his meds and you're also produced a hair today focus and you've been up to newcastle to meet some of the supporters. Tell me who you met. Yes the first person i'm was wallace wilson. Listen thank you so this kind of really unassuming kind of polite guy. He's very quiet. Hit book is passion for football. Kind bursts out new young luxury played against newcastle. Andy absolutely destroyed right back absolutely destroyed them. I i am going to newcastle games in nineteen sixty three and he had a season ticket for about three decades and he's got this like huge collection of much watched programs that he's been keeping since then. It's pretty must have yet to solve like open. It was lofton. Bring like a box of his favorite ones to see quarterfinals which we played against toria setup all it was an absolute blizzard martin and the picks up two handfuls of snow and started rubbing into his own. He was really came gene from save these particular ones from from the time in newcastle when the fez corp in nineteen sixty nine when he was nine. It's one of the last times newcastle of actually anything thing. I used to go to every game current much of the afternoon with me and we used to walk over you could see saint james's park from my house. We descend down the hill and then over the time bridge you are getting closer to the ground and and there were more and more people heading in the same direction you felt part of something you felt part of a growing force heading towards the grand so madonna made probably do a lot together but we did that that was our time every fortnight and it was yeah it was it was important. I think it is special at newcastle. It's evidenced by the fact that even when we are poor porcine that's not challenging for trophies. They're still pulling in fifty two thousand to every home game now. That's either blind loyalty. Fanaticism or people are just completely stupid is probably a combination of the two you met wireless burst and then you went to emme michael. Tell me about him. Yes so let that night. I mess michael martin. My name's michael naughton to founded the truth fund zine. He was one of the founders of the original newcastle supporters trust kind of a massive figure among this diehard community unity newcastle funds so smartly dressed in a polo shirt buttoned up all the way and the polo shirt was black and white. Where did you meet him so we met in a pub called strawberry which is a really special place for for newcastle funds. It's right next to the stadium. Send gems is park of being a nerd much of with me dad and his mates and you have to literally q. across the entire room and like the daughter go pint and when the walls like just absolutely packed full of pictures of grit figures from newcastle's history jackie milburn and malcolm macdonald twenty seconds gone donald debut. James's talk scores his first goal keegan. We're still fighting for this title and i'll tell you honestly i will love it if we beat them. Look it she in wall suggested absolutely covered. We were wounded. Altea not a wonderful full say to watch being held by de eight hundred mike ashley in my opinion the most miserable taint period if newcastle united entire history from it ninety-two rate up to the modern age being eh positions but we haven't felt the sewer dispirited as we as we all right now i think he's emptied. The klezmer and he's in the club of a lot of things is empty. Club of assets is emptied it if people so there was hardly anybody that works. It's james's talk anymore and the club is more or less run from shah rukh sports direct headquarters so the club's not a major. You know decent employer than it was so stayton literally has taken livelihoods of people. He's also cheapen declawed but i think the i think the big thing is emptied. The twelve is open. I'm vicious and people just being obstinately fed up to the back teeth of the same mm-hmm shit season after season after season which is ashley just doing the bam to keep the club in the premier league investing investing in absolutely nothing. Mike ashley the a self-made retail tycoon. It's famously the owner of cheap fashion chain sports direct and he also has a history of buying up shares in struggling brands like french connection evans in cycles and the department store house of fraser all at rock bottom prices but his purchase of newcastle united twelve years ago felt like a whole new gain it just floated sports direct stock market and become a billionaire in terms of the value of a shareholding david cone writes for the guardian about sport and particularly on football's relationship with money and mike ashley has said that he didn't really know what's to this money so he bought football club. I don't think that he bought newcastle united up. I as an investment. It seems like you know he'd become a billionaire and it was something that was going to give him a lot of phone. He did say that and he's a lot. I wanna have some fun and winston trae face. Yeah i think supporters what is required hopeful when my cash league. I took over quite show being one of the team at one point. He was there in the stanley's ashley downing pine in his newcastle best. What do we actually know about him. So mike ashley is these are sort of rhodesia cheeked round-faced character who owns he's by far the majority owner of sports direct which which started with one shop and is built into this high-street behemoth which has also take off almost every other sports retailer that we had on the high street tumble. I this play the white shirt just eight pounds eight dense dongcheng god. I three pounds three pounds the way that he's done interest on price. It's cheap reduced. Special offers just plastered everywhere in the shops. There is a pilot high sell cheap fail our what is personal smell style than as a businessman you know the doctor of lots of drinking going to the casino you know there was a court case where ah businessman was claiming that he'd made an agreement within in one of these drinking evenings and in the course of the evening mike ashley ashley it vomited in the fireplace and i think that's become quite assaultive conic moment when people think about my cash in his business style by also ashley himself is very forensic. He's very obsessive four hundred thousand square feet if it's one hundred and fifty pounds of square foot foot doctor that's fifty million to refit those out surprises door. He's got a grip on every detail of the sports direct business if he can see away to shave a half a second off a delivery time and realized that that will save x. many millions of pounds over all the business. He'll do it so i think to paint him. Just as the good time charlie misses the forensic business person that has built highstreet empire octave time when the highstreet has been a disaster for so many other companies and it and it became clear as well but his cost cutting didn't stop at the time saving it also came at the expense of his employees in twenty fifteen the guardian carried out with big investigation into the working conditions at the sports direct distributions entering cyber rescue is they found that temporary workers were effectively receiving hourly rates of pay below the minimum wage because of strict searches around shift times names and more than eighty percent of the softwares zero hours contracts. The center was described as this kind of candian workhouse westoff were given even black marks for sickness or long toilet breaks among old led to a parliamentary inquiry and then david that is amazing easy maimon wet not long after the news breaks he goes to visit the warehouse to kind of give shareholders journalists a bit of a tour an on camera he goes through the search procedure that that people complained about promotions context of your pocket into the great trade he empties his pockets and there's a massive word of fifty pound tapes in his pocket another okay yeah and the contrast between green the wad of cash and you know the less than minimum wage people are earning was. Let's say not a great look up first when he bought nicosia knighted. Things are going pretty well. He made funds very happy when he bought the legendary kevin keegan as manager but then he and actually fell fell out very badly and very famously over the signing of players you call these people in the you know why because conscious them they tell you one thing. They mean another that you left. That seemed to be a big turning point for the fans at that point. Mike ashley said well. He obviously wasn't having fun any more. It was intensely unpopular with supporters and he said that he would sal up so he wants <hes> in a considerable amount of money for it and it didn't didn't happen and then it was certainly a coaching change where mike ashley said i'm coming back and i'm going to run the club as a business. How how does he run. It gradually came to be a feel that the cost cutting was taking over and overlaid with that walls walls what you can think of as the source of sports directive education of the stadium sit james's park. I mean it's a lovely name for ground sin. James's james's park. I there was a proposal to actually rename it. The sports director rina well an- not was spelled. It's quite wipe difficult to think how he could have made himself more unpopular than by doing that but if you think of it as a shrine a hallowed place to to then just brimmed as a sports director rina was terribly crass nap to an interchange briefly before paying quite quickly reversed but james's poc but it still feels like a sports direct amina right <hes> the have absolutely plastic the stadium with sports direct advertising to fail this is kind of cheapening of it that it's become almost like a branch of the sports direct pilot high-solid cheap sports retailing empire. The house really sore twisted the knife. There's has the heart and the history of the club but there's also what's going on in the background in the cubs. Finances and newcastle funds failed despite the financial windfalls enjoyed by many other primarily clubs. They have seen a bad minimum of investment in the twelve years the ashley his own the club. They've seen to allegations and only one finish above tenth place ace. The cub has been up for sale since twenty seventeen with two high profile takeover times failing and ashley reportedly asking for twice the price he initially bought it for aw and over a period when commercial revenues are other clubs skyrocketed newcastle stagnated sports direct until recently was effectively getting free advertising appetizing that nemanja is the lowest paid in the league and to add insult to injury the new hampshire for fans is the most expensive saving the league at sixty five pounds supporters are actually financially aware enough to recognize that a football club flip does have to live within its financial means so adoption. They're expecting get locked star players but they feel like it's gone way too far. The other the way on the the whole emphasis is on the bottom line. Mike ashley might have a different perspective on this. He might say hey the in the realities they real willed realities of the premier league. <hes> monstrosity around by an abu dhabi shake in manchester united is an absolute money-making machine chelsea's hung by russian oligarch and you know in that company newcastle the united just don't make the money they don't turn over the money which is clips do and therefore they can't attract those kinds of plays they can't realistically compete in the top six and therefore he's only being honest to say look. We're in the premier league. <hes> we finish around tenth than than we're doing. Well count your blessings wchs but but i think the counter to that is you know. They think that they think they could be a liverpool now. There are major club with stadium. That's moving. I got more than fifty thousand people in it. It's just a feeling that there's so much more potential there. Then it's achieving under mike ashley sports direct to be fat to mike ashley. The club has spent spent some money this year on new players but i think the most fans summer has been overshadowed by one moment the extremely popular manager rafa benitez leaving leaving the club again how to feel like they really weren't spending very much money at all and what benitez sad was that he wasn't being supported take to be able to rome nicosia united in ambitious way fans on happy. The fed up fed up of being fed up <music> josh. It's pretty clear that fans want ashley to sell the club and just leave. How have the support has been responding to the current situation. So the way michael martin describes it is the result of two phelan's among funds anger and apathy on just what you see in the protests outside the sports director on northumbrian street of sort of been going on for years and it's also the driving force behind kind of the next step. Which is this boycott. <hes> this proposed boycott of the oslo much this weekend attend so after three decades of being a season ticket holder wallace gave up his season ticket and stop going like a few years into my customers ran and is now he's the one trying to organize the funds and so of mobilize them to take action against actually. I think what's happened. Is this is probably the the worst thing what's happened. Is that mike ashley has recognized that newcastle's greatest asset is its support and how loyalties and what he's done is. He's exploited adot support for his own ends so he knows they're going to continue turning up and he thinks to himself. This is going to provide a wonderful backdrop to my adverts for my businesses until until people stop going is going to continue that because it's the only way that you can you can impact on mike. Ashley is financially. He's not bothered about football. It's just go to for him to make money. The supporters only really own one thing inside the ground and not the atmosphere. If we can change the atmosphere we have hold horde of empty seats then that's going to completely change the backdrop for mike ashley's adverts and i think that's the way we we have to approach it if he can do that then perhaps you'll become a more willing seller it might it might take a long long time <hes> but we're prepared to be here for the long run however long it takes who about michael. How does he feel about some michael martin's kind of gone on the other way. He says he's drifted from what used to feel as anger into uppity on oh dozens of people who would have considered to have been absolutely black and white so that bootstraps who don't go anymore. It probably going watch eleven long white shirts and a washing lane. You know dot tape tape of support do just that just logged off so to speak and that's all down to make ashley. You've been a season ticket holder for how long dodger jesse a._d. Stephanie the thirty odd years. I would think the union said jeeze. I've still got me season tickets. I haven't pressed the button on. 'em on counseling selected direct debit. I haven't got round. That's something i'm going to have to do with strong. Drink a thank and but just account envisage go into games. I am because there isn't any joy behar knowing what we knew about how he's running a club icon accompanying myself to want to field the level of frustration again not going to football matches got a lot more to do than just not spending ninety minutes camacho. It's it's it means you. You'll even a network of friends and <hes> routines dots. Actually you don't realize when you're not going to do it really does mean to you know because and it costs painful. It's painful you know but it just doesn't make me feel good anymore. No-one not which the club what it means history the support as the people love it of being ripped off by this blog and how he approaches the football this clearly means to the supporters but newcastle so is just a small part of ashes empire and at the moment the retail core of his business is facing some major challenges having recently bought house of fraser. The chain has lost millions. Millions stores are closing dobson cut. Several senior executives have left his company and even sports. Direct stores are struggling. The high street is under the great challenge many from online <hes> shopping just about everywhere and my actually was this exception then because formula exports to iraq and he was seeing off <hes> all the other sports retailers but this seems to have been a real <hes> <hes> called bath four and one thing that really means to main concept of newcastle united is this is a very busy man. This is a mom fighting fires on many different fronts and so how much do attention does in county really give to newcastle united and how how much does he really care about an effort is surviving doing decently and it's financially sound and making a profit is my cash league and a really care that some supporters wish it was doing better than i think the answer to that from the evidence that we've seen over the last few years his know that he'll be quite satisfied with that so david we kind of got this picture of mike ashley as a businessman who has built his fortune on buying brands runs squeezing every ounce of value out of them and almost removing bare essential quality in order to make a profit or costs. Do you think this sports what's direct kind of approach is what's happened at newcastle united over the last half yet. This is something that when i first started writing about mike ashley newcastle united indepth the i kind of just slowly started to realize so you go into sports direct store and you see browns really mean law that how the real cashier at the time so <hes> so there's lonsdale in that that's as lon- as ever last they really evoke kind of class and sporting so of glorious but what what you realize is he's bought the browns mostly when they've actually gone boost so he owns the name and the actual gaya gaya the kit that's being manufactured to have those names on just isn't off the same kind of classy <hes> quality evatt you associate with it and thinking it through and talking to some newcastle supporters about this. They can't help feeling that this is. What's kinda been happening with their own club. He's rain is a cutler broken promises but i can't. I don't see us giving up. We're going to stay here and we're going to keep doing stuff and making life uncomfortable for mike ashley until he leaves we can return to be competing football league wigan. We asked a representative of mike ashley and of nicosia united. I want to this episode but neither wanted wanted to comment. You can meet more if david kahn reporting and keep your eyes on the boycott at the guardian dot com and as the primarily kicks off. Do you follow this this season with our podcast comrades on the guardians football weekly with max rushton every monday and thursday coming up. Why a more women than ever applying to be miss england. I'm john and i'm sorry i liked t. I said we'd be happy appea- if england won the world cup but lost the ashes. It's not true i wanted to do. I know it's greedy but positioning the earn next to the world cup of ben stokes's mantelpiece piece would make this the ultimate summer for english cricket so join us on the spin as we turn our selves into emotional wrecks all over again. It couldn't be nerve wracking as a world cup final could he. The spin is supported by natwest now applications to compete in missing land arising this year they reached more than twenty thousand pageants are apparently now about character and personality charity and empowerment but the guardians ama- collier has been trying to work out what if anything is different a lot of people would think of beauty pageants is having discount nineteen eighty s very kitsch feel about it is miss universe. Barbara colosio's audio's payday t._r._s. sachets sequence everywhere people requesting world peace in the finale tastes ended up to the missing lind final in newcastle. I mean to be honest. There was still quite along that element. They're trying at least on the surface change things. They've not got the sims round anymore. Although it's exists optionally you can send in pictures and you eh they all raising money for charity. There's some of the people i met with doctors basham kaji on the missing lindsey thousand the noisy bill rate russia and when she won the ceremonies on the thursday they ni- and then she ended up doing i as work in hospital as a junior doctor on the friday and i asked her about you know why would you do this partly because because you know being a doctor as a very public role to have to occupy i'm cheated. She didn't seem very concerned about that. There is still a large portion of the of the academic population that luke patten said in prejudiced way they do think affairs by old-fashioned and objectification of women. I like to change that and for that. We need role models. We need people walk who have branched out to both feels academia and community and that's always been my passion to break stereotypes. Law of conversations are having kind of centered around this idea of objectification edification and some of the arguments kind of said well. There's a mr england competition so well. If you object defying women than your jets flying men too i i mean of course you might just be objectified. Everyone basha had an interesting point to make where she said what we need to do. However is to use that to to our advantage. This is why <hes> then fundraising. Effort is pushed so much because we are able to do that. I was standing there the other day with the crown on nice makeup on and they'll girls were coming up to be thinking. I was princess. They want to take pictures with me and then you talk at the parents obviously today <hes> and then you tell them what we're trying to do. That's how the message gets sent out so yes. Objectification is as much as a positive thing as it is a negative. It was kind of disheartening to hear that i feel because it was very much focused defeatist in a way that you know i'm i'm stuck in this position. There's nothing nothing i can do. Challenge it so i might as well try and use it to mind to. Some kind of advantage is one of the questions i was asking. Organizes organizes as well as keen on on changing the image of the panchen. Why even call it a beauty pageant anyway. That was one of the things i kept coming across his night. It's not what about beauty it's about carta sanity but it clearly is and you know thought still clearly kind of sells for them. It does it bigness dalj. I feel around you know the missing link contest because it is the most historic things running since nineteen twenty eight so even though are they all trying to change as himse ground and they really loved to talk about how it's optional. It's always he's still there. <hes> it's clearly still rating rating women based on their bodies. Let's say that there's definitely a reluctance to say goodbye to the traits that make pageants problematic. They always say that the glomma world is glamorous from the talk but it's actually quite nelson glamorous when you get deep into it at the same time. Same medicine is very d glommed on from the talk but it's very beautiful on the inside and i think you need birth in like that was my thanks to him and to david kahn and of course michael martin and wallace wilson in newcastle that that is all for this week. We'll be back monday. Today's program was produced by joshua kelly and gary marshall with thanks also to salvage ally and davies. The sound design is is by actual kakuta and the executive producers are film may not an nicole taksin. We'll see you next week.

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Cracking Trumps Code

Slate's The Gist

31:41 min | 10 months ago

Cracking Trumps Code

"L. Makers entrepreneurs are journalists they often share one thing in common at some time in their lives they experienced defining moments that inspired them to make an in. Hi I'm Mike Pesca we've got a great show for you today but before we launch into it here's a word from our first sponsor when you talk to those who have shaped your world whether they're business interests now trump's meandering repetitive defensive claim which by the way preceded hr that Barack Obama negotiated his netflix trump executive Alan Weisselberg and donald trump junior past presidents have used a blind trust controlled by an outside Party a third party share their stories they might just inspire you to what would you like the power to do you can find that made all the difference anywhere you get your podcasts. He's in criticism that he shouldn't have announced his intention to host the G. Seven summit at his Florida Golf Course President Trump wanted us to know that he this show may contain my tips for making money on Bitcoin it won't it also may contain explicit language and it really might eggs deal while president that claim also we lighted other historical facts like president hoover and President Kennedy did giveaway there turns out was paid twenty five thousand dollars he took the twenty five thousand dollars to almost seven hundred thousand in today's dollars Washington did try to turn down eighty and they are not told how trust is performing now it is true from what I understand that Donald Junior actually can't let his father even take a salary like perhaps some say George Washington listen to how long it takes to make this point but I give away my presidential sour they say I would have said to my family because they run my business I don't run my business I actually put all the stuff entrusts they were It's Monday October twenty first two thousand nineteen from slate it's the Gist I Mike pesca Donald Trump President Donald J trump today how to point that he wanted to make are too many really rich presidents but there were few they ran their business hey Obama made a deal for a book is running a business that no other president has done it I'm surprised to be honest with you. They actually say George Washington may may have been the only other president but see whether or not Obama game the twenty five thousand dollars but the writers of the Constitution calculated that it was better to have a president who could focus on being the president then worrying about his outside how his trust is doing but the chairman of Trump's advisory board can make those disclosures to the president and chairman's name is Eric Salary see whether or not all of the other of your favorites give up this alary the answer is no all right let's figure out what he was saying here George Washington a sage and resonant voice what if Morgan Freeman were saying it what if I don't know Jeremy Irons at his poshest were saying from Connecticut to California for Mrs Risotto recap the president that trump said gave away his salary did not to presidents that did give away their salaries he did not mention which takes us line connect with new customers and work more productively learn more at google dot com slash grow that's google dot com slash grow and lasting contribution to society it will be in the realm of the linguistic but I know all that stuff trump was saying what if it were said by all his money is in is called trust but he's not a trust like we think of trust it is not a blind trust it is a trust controlled by writer bikes can hire more employees back home in the US the grow with Google initiative is committed to helping American businesses like strider bikes used the web to grow saying is that the word trust and the trumps are somewhat at odds who knew on the show today the trump administration's great this new book both stated and unstated because academics and Writers Steven Martin and Joseph Marks have put together a new study of and Joseph Marx Messengers who we listened to but we don't and what I trust these guys they have good accents trump who told Forbes that each quarter he would give his father financial briefings so the kids are talented that is what I'm saying and what I'm further mm tools like Google market finder and Google ads to expand their reach and connect with more customers globally and more customers globally means that uh-huh economic competence dominance and attractiveness meaning the perception of those things on behalf of the person receiving the message. Okay let's just he didn't even discuss it while he was president yeah all right that was a really bad George Watson now about trump saying he puts his money in a trust yes the Investment v to this next claim about George Washington but I was willing to do this for free and they would have had it would have been the greatest G. seven ever I didn't have to do that but under no obligation you're not I don't know if you know George Washington he ran his business simultaneously while he was president many other presidents talk about them so it seems to me that attractiveness the perceiver will always be right about that like they know if the person is attractive sippy to Minnesota millions of American businesses are using Google tools to grow online businesses strider bikes in rapid city. South Dakota are using that's why growth with Google provides free digital skills workshops and one on one coaching small businesses in all fifty states helping them get on they don't kill the Messenger is more than an idiom it's the exact theme all the studies of why we listen to people and who are the people we listened to it is called messengers who we listen to who we don't and why and I guess norms of attractiveness in society do perhaps change over time but that seems like an entirely different category than competence because Hi and when I say don't kill the Messenger is the subtext they wanna get out of this interview alive and I don't know if I could guarantee that but we hope to make it possible other than attractiveness though are some of these hard domains mostly male mostly what we consider male everything said about dominant says male-male to me signal compromise you know we know that for example people are much much more likely to remember a message their physician has given them if that position has took training too low the tone of their voice so that they could essentially emulate that signal of dominance you know lots of research that shows that that and Margaret Thatcher before her both took voice coaching training to lower their voice get rid of that kind of heightened shrillness and as a result or elected into office how good a doctor they are so there are other cues that we're using to determine competence attractiveness someone's socioeconomic position even the Stephen Joseph thank you for joining me good soc- having us okay so you separate these things into hard domains and soft domains and the hard domains are how could you know how could you ever really know at a glance if the person is competent you know competent faces tend to be a little bit squarer and then we we were closed dominance yes so what dominance bay then what are the cues I understand what would connote socio economic position an accent the word you use the way you its competence there are ways to measure actual competence and there are fairly easy ways to measure socio economic status you could we could all debate if socio economic rest your haircut I'm GonNa sing this song you know the way you wear hats but what would be the cues that would dictate dominance deep voice height is another one well they're all female examples in fact you know with two British guys and we have to past female prime ministers right both of whom creating the environment where their messenger characteristic will do its most work where it's going to be most attractive there is to me though another the voice tonality of a politician correlates pretty strongly with people's perception of their competence and whether or not they're likely to be voted in so no surprise the both Theresa May on and then kind of posture so big open displays just a more aggressive sort of demeanor more brash competitive you know those people that come into the room manekshaw stick their feet on the table they literally consume the space right there essentially signaling that predisposition dominance that they have that characteristic mkx status is a proper standing for who makes a good messenger but competence is if we could accurately decide who was competent that wouldn't be the reasons why they've come about but I think it's moving actually and especially with competence so a recent large metro analysis of studies from nineteen forty six till now eh would it I'll stop myself there it's still terrible but it is true that the Messenger does affect the message that is the theme of the new book by Steven Martin I think the the males have been serotypes as the hard messages Sof messengers men as more authoritative leadership focused powerful sees a speaker as attractive they will be with dominance I don't even know what that means with competence the problem seems to be accurately assessing it not whether it I'm women's more socially harmonious emotionally sensitive and these have been entrenched for a long time these stereotypes as you know both biological reasons and culture so far we're staying in the domain of the hard domains there seemed to be a lot of differences between these and one of them is that with attractiveness if the listener so the dominance associated with men remains why do we still prized dominance as a way to decide who's a good messenger well it depends on the imminent character right so you know so absolutely no surprise that those that are predisposed to be dominant often create the fear themselves they literally housing should we be preparing for the potential for nuclear bomb to be dropped on the UK and if so who the right messages to deliver this crucial information Loa slow voice right well but it doesn't either about my point that these things that we think are dominant are male men coming down or women women going up actually and what's interesting about this is it also shows that in other places there has been no change infection via the rectal route that's old probably probably not the way to go is there a correlation is it just not a strong correlation for England and these people knew nothing about the topic they would have no idea what to do in the event of a nuclear attack but yet the parliamentaries recognized was next I mean if we are kind of anxious if we're on certain if the ambiguity those are the kind of context in situations where we're more inclined to look to a harder more showed that actually competences changed and women used to be viewed as less competent the men now that viewed as equally if not more competent than men and is the perceived competence and you may think that they would come up with nuclear physicists or kind of public health experts or some some kind of public official who would have breath scope around their neck I mean the fact that the commercial yeah they don't use the stethoscope right it's almost like the patient is using the doctor stethoscope to make a judgment about actually people are going to respond to them and in a time of crisis you need somebody who draws attention and who can change behavior so that's an example of the least breath I think maybe Margaret Thatcher as a result I mean the circumstances with Theresa May gaining office where much different but it's it it didn't it didn't hold so that she had that D and is there a negative correlation with the perception of some of these traits and if the person is a proper Messenger oftentimes you say competences yeah we have this kind of emotional capacity to respond to another's needs and therefore we do so in that context I think one of my favorite examples of exactly opposed but yeah it has a powerful effect in specifically in times of need humans are prone to hearing requests for help and responding with sympathy and all be all of who is the Right Messenger very incredibly smart accredited expert can also be wrong okay but so what I'm saying is there seems to be hacked that's the subject of that made all the difference a new podcast from Bank of America here from achievers Ken Burns and Arianna Huffington as in the book which is kind of crazy this idea that there's an individual in a hospital that is has got an ear infection and you know the the doctor comes along and not in this domain but the names that were food were Kevin Keegan who was captain of the England soccer team and Ian Botham who was a top cricket again king in sounding right all right I want to get some of these soft domains here you list warmth vulnerability trustworthiness and charisma when asked about his pocket and but that's the really interesting thing is is in that context what would otherwise make absolutely no sense at all is now irrelevant you know I see corrective to the idea of dominance do think yeah no they are in stock position on your on a signal a need for help to show force is often Noor ability this I don't know twelve years ago that that would be up there as a soft domain it seems to have we've rallied around the idea of vulnerability perhaps his but in the least qualified person being the best messenger exactly it's that poked example of being right mattering a hell of a lot less than look way to the people in front and can I break in the line please and no surprised well no people don't like to do that but no surprise in the studies when they ran these was that the this feature of competence and expertise perceived competence and expertise are kind of just like follow it you know and I suddenly do these crazy things that make no sense I mean treatment of we wanna listen to but yet they are not the Best Messenger and I think there was a nice case that we talk about in the the final chapter of the book where Parliamentarians in one thousand nine hundred one itself is accurate way to know who to listen to well I think that's fair and so we use these cues to to to to decide and there's you know there's one exhaust house they abbreviate the prescription on patients car instead of saying please these drops in the patient's right ear they bring the right with the letter R so now reads rear thought his studies where you guys went apple you're gonNA train station and there's there's a long line and you know you need to make that trade needs that flight and so you offer money and then the nurse says why well clearly that's what the doctor says so let's see that discovers clearly he was called the doctor he's got he's white coat he's got his little were was that no one ever took the money it's almost like you know that signal of hey if you're willing to give me like a hundred bucks to cut in line you really must be in a vulnerable situation more money you offer someone the more likely you are to be able to cut in front of him in the line there's absolutely no surprise it's all any economists in the world will tell you that's probably what's going to happen what was really interesting find him trustworthy for doing that because you're telling our truths by not adhering to the facts or what some people say is a fact you're speaking the broader more important truth and there are others who are afraid to say that truth I think that goes on very much yeah there's almost like a questionable genius the more he in certain situations the more he lies and prevaricates and spreads falsehoods the more that his people who love him overweight people pay attention to those messages and turns out with safety related messages you know five six year old school children giving those messages over the PA far far more effective to show them that we respect their autonomy respect their welfare and you see in studies where they've measured doctors tone of voice they see the in that instance it was a signal another one of these traits of I'm in need and I'm reaching out to other humans and that connectedness between humans is truth I see this all the time in American politics but what do you mean when you say that yes so they are different things actually and truthfulness relies on us kind of weighing trust somebody even when we think that they're lying directly to the audience and sometimes because they're lying and this was I think Donald Trump does this a lot in that hit and you commissioner these remarkable cliffs in effect okay one of the most important distinctions is talk about trustworthiness but that's different from is that talk about the importance of holding the hand rail and you know being saved when taking the elevator with your suitcases and things like that if you change the messenger you can have a dramatic influence watson that might be uncertain but trustworthiness relies on these kind of vague broader assessments of the person and the underlying late and motivations and goals and values and so we can boosts his credibility so he can lie and his trustworthiness goes up in that group but he confers another advantage as well which is all the people that disagree with him start talking about him attention to who is saying what is being said so for example you know on the London shoe by you know all equivalent of your subway system here in New York we have messaging jat because it doesn't just appeal to his supporters you know the fact that the underlying value of what he's actually saying what they've signed up to coulee incompetent yeah so I in your in Your Business Stephen His influence at work do you do any consulting which might recommend the those who are rated as woolmer tend to actually be sued less for malpractice than those who take more dominant approach even though the equally competent at their patients or in the standard you know I'm the safety officer pr the handrail these kind of things so there's an example of how what's being said doesn't change it's all which has changed Hussein what do we mean warmth is ability to express kind of benevolent some positive for God for other people so you know we're not trying to show that we're better than them like we support him to pay more attention to him and as a result he becomes even more important right messenger who we listened to who we don't and why by Steven Martin and evidence and create you know doing computations are head whereas trust love in truth one this is an objective standard exactly yes and well given the evidence that is available the state to Straits but rather actually endow respect to them and show the hour really admire you I wanna be your friend and that has a powerful effect doing something magical to happen and I'm gonNA open is to your request I'm going to open myself up to your message and potentially responded favorably now turn to warmth when we say warmth future from conversations with Ilan mosque about Tesla's early struggles to Tim Cook's perspective on government regulation each edition of Axios helps you dispose of distraction which is paying attention to and so if that attention orientate equality of his you know misinformation miscommunication is is actually causing the people that 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again pro quo all I did was agree that it was a quid pro quo I didn't literally mouth the words quid pro quo so you see the people doing it every day in language you don't say take Ken out Siri or Alexa but you say that to people because we need to show this won't cooperate and get along with them your dollars towards select mattresses by visiting Casper Dot com slash gist and using code just at checkout terms and conditions apply therefore you cannot surmise that I adhere to the premise just given the fact that I agreed with the premise so when Mick Mulvaney is asked a yes or no question but later in this episode of bullshit he wrote Mulvaney made an assertion about the president's directness you've heard this line before the president never mentions the sleep on it trial get one hundred dollars towards select mattresses by visiting Casper Dot com slash gist and using just a checkout again Getahun Dick Mulvaney the answer is no I did it a better way I was wrong stupid may also let's say when asked do you take this man to be lawful wedded husband and you said I do that doesn't count you need to say I do take this man to be my lawful wedded husband listen to the Democrat server as well we do we do that all the time with foreign policy okay so when confronted aide at all in the phone call doesn't say oh by the way I need you to do this this this and this or else the money won't flow we all know enough about this president that if he feels of Mark's thank you gentlemen for like the juice this episode is brought to you by Casper you know you spend a third of your life sleeping if you're lucky if you're getting it is as much the trump brand as gilded facades and Eastern European wives this is why the trump people are constantly going on the air after former FBI director Jim Qomi said trump pressured him you and I both know my father a long time when he tells you to do something yes guess what good follow up question to Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney might have been are you show you're married Sir by the way at this point he's been acting longer than Angela Lansbury House chief-of-staff Mick Mulvaney who was confronted with his own words they were played back to him barked upon that was something to behold I not in the body shaming way they Casper mattress combines multiple supportive memory phones for quality sleep service with the right amount of sink and bound very strongly about something he's going to put that out there directly and that didn't happen in fact trump's people know that he constantly speaks and threatens obliquely indirectly ending congressman at a Congressional hearing quoting Michael Cohen you suggested that the president sometimes communicates is wishes indirectly to begin your eighth grade essay what I did on my summer vacation on my summer vacation I in your choice said Kenya start a little better know if you're saying there is the mafia-like implied threat as described by Michael Cohen here is former Republican now independ- okay you're not allowed to say and I never expect to hear that from you again she said I never expect to hear that from you again instead of directly firing him I told you before very disappointed with the attorney general but we will see what happens time will tell this has been contradicted by the facts hundreds of times trump engages in evasive misdirected language all the time there has paralegals the all not saying to make the eminently falsifiable claim that trump doesn't do it over two years ago here is Don Jr. trying to argue the same exact point on Fox ability here remember this during the campaign he called Ted Cruz a pussy by talking about how terrible it was to call Ted Cruz a pussy you heard the other night at the bait they add he speaks in code another variation of this is trump saying I'm not gonNA say it or I'll get in trouble and then he says it which gives him some I'd I'd call an implausible denial the answer because some people she just said a terrible thing you know she said shouted out because I don't want and strong suggestion or the word that Cohen himself used he doesn't give you questions he doesn't give orders he speaks in code for example you said quote Mr Trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress that's not how he operates end quote implication she said he's a pussy and of course all the time he indirectly and passively aggressively abused Jeff sessions in public to a quid pro quo and right there from the podium says yeah it was a quid pro quo here's the tape quid pro quo is funding will not flow in less the investigate holding weapons in exchange quid for investigating political rivals Pro Quo George Stephanopoulos asked him this do you agree with Senator Mukasey that would have been in a pro there's no ambiguity in it there's no hey I'm hoping you and I are friends hey I hope this happens but you gotta do your job that's what he told Komi again you asked me if this happened it's a hypothetical if the question did 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Do Man United Stand a Chance?

ESPN FC

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Do Man United Stand a Chance?

"Welcome into less. Addition of ESPN c down Thomas John by Craig Burley, Stevie Neko, Anne Frank Leboeuf still with us hanging in there. Sorry. The show or flex on Spurs one victory over Brighton. But we're gonna start haven't we without big match tomorrow majesty United taking on Manchester City knighted, it's all about talk for for city. It's about the tides of before we get the views the boys in the studio. Let's go to Manchester and welcome in Mark Ogden. Motley start with United Shelley. What's the rhetoric that's been coming out from Old Trafford from social over the last twenty four hours considering what happened against Everton? Been basically socio has been saying that the needed performance is no hiding places he said today, there's no hiding place in the game against months after the performance at Everton. It was so bad in every department. It was just objects. It was the worst performance explosion left almost six years ago. Now, so. United have to obviously the downside is back a win. Then it makes it easier for little to the title of the mind to go to start thinking about themselves. They can still get in the top four qualify for the Champions League. And I think it's massively important that United now porna- poems themselves with the funds and forget about who wins the league. Because sits your little does doesn't really matter. It's it's not good use of money United. So. Got themselves. Mark is that a real thing? Fans genuinely genuinely hugging city win tomorrow because of Liverpool that seems ridiculous considering the situation United during going into this. Absolutely. I mean. Dementia. So my life and the one that will tell you is that there's only one rival to that matters them. Let's Liverpool city until until recently until shape and saw the club didn't really register that they've never been a real threat to the United over the years. It's always been been Liverpool now, and again, it was asked even once again, it was lead months it you'd never really really mattered United until recently. It was all about cities with a joke. You know, they were left up by United. But now, it's changed. But it's a deep-seated rivalry live. It goes by over centuries all about the most successful club in England and the United States club. So that's why United funded rather sits in the league. Excuse me. I mean to be honest. It doesn't really matter what the fines is about what the players need to be honest. It's. Struggling to the top six right as taught for Champions League. And that's the most important thing for less club going forward. Not what mine says the city Liverpool. Do the other side of the coin about as Mark source Garcia and winning the performance? It probably said the after the Wofford game home, it probably said that after the west time game at home. Definitely said after the term partial unloading games what they expected to lose. And then he's hovering again, even though they won the what for the west. I'm game. The performances were object. No the performance against EV was a bedroom is absolutely abysmal. Now. Even if United author game tomorrow, it would still take a mind Chester city, really poor performance till low them to get into of that's home, bigger difference. That's how big the reds between these two gourds socials on really have two days with with the team since the fee against Everton. How much can do realistically in that time to get this side ready for this match tomorrow? Tactically, probably nothing, but this game for them is not about tactic should begin some some face by getting some pray. But unfortunately, Vermont Jess United the last team, they won't phase Chesa city. I hit all this talk of sociology wanting to performance when was the last time we got up performance against the proper team. We're going to start seeing that getting a ni- elite did against PS, gene, an Americo arms and getting through is a performance that really the performance. I can't imagine her munch issue aided when this game against my tests that city are you expecting a reaction. There's got to be some the reaction. Yeah. It's not the performance that they need is a pride like Stevie said, a reaction as men the have to go on on the field, you know, as wires because of course, and Craig say said it at the end of expansion between the two team there is a big gap of of quality. And it's not only the performance only. The price is not only being warrior is on a baby calling the goal of food ball to win that game. So it could be the lose could be an excuse for the fancying that they don't want live up to it. But. You have to face the reality of the quality of non quality of the of the Manchester United squad comparing to what we knew in in the history of football. They are they really need to react during the summertime to find a better a better team because mention ated is not anymore mentioned saying Aidid again yesterday done that when say Aaron possession and the to fill box push on and the white guys can talk when the EFI lose SETI if United watch what Tottenham dead, which was the ball LA an over the top to expose on south weekend. It was the poor and Johnstone's. I don't know what the half paranoia beef say because it could change. But that's that's an achilles heel mess of honorability that when the laughs are two against one or two against hers, feel bucks per, Sean. When airings in particular was Logan and behind and son was running in caused them all saucy problems. That's the only way I can see sorry. United exp-. Using the reality. This game is the Manchester say Manchester City, put the effort and the commitment and that they have done over the last eighteen twenty four months then again because if you to shades, given all, but then comes down to ability, and if we're talking about ability, Manchester City on a different planet to Manchester. Nice not one player with I'm trying to think of top of my head. No, one player one player moment the United into the SETI site. Yes. The moment. Now. That's true. That's true. Not one even Puncak could. Indeed, what wouldn't have them. Anyone? Neil set aside at the moment agree, Mark new paint optimistic picture for United fans going into this game tomorrow. No. It's difficult because. Guy say if once we eleven really find any United plays in eleven and pope assert it would it make it for me pumpers. A massive luxury play. And I think is great when it's going well as it was in the Wilco FRANZ surrounded by great pleasure to plame self. If you saw any by mediocre players, he becomes a mediocre play himself. He's not saw a play that lifted seem to high level. He almost gets direct down by the teams inadequacies, and I don't think the United can rely on any game now. So this one because I think he's again that he goes missing anywhere missing in the new come last week you admission Avidsson you look around the United team. There aren't many places you can say he will turn up and give you give you a shift. I mean, always Marcus rush. But to give a hundred percent Heaney's plays around into perform. So yes, there will be a reaction. Yes. The can't be as bad as you. I remember on the David Moyes five years ago. United actually Hammett. Ulta for Liverpool thought economies about as again in the next home game was Hamad again, three nil. So, you know, there's no guarantee that unites Muhammad Samoan, I this thing that sits turn up, and I think they will turn then it could be real uncomfortable knife United and just a reminder of the record when the teams that will track. You're not alone. One once the loss seven meetings against you can seating seventeen thousand in process, and whatever happens more history will be made because never in the Premier League era have Manchester United being less fancied by the bookies match at Old Trafford thirteen to two they are to win at home match the city big favorites probably into this high nine to four on drew me while four to one we talked about the city in how very much. Destinies in the hands going. Oh, new Honda simple. As I good place to be if they get the way and the result goes to form the running for them as candidate candidacy. You know, bumbling themselves safe done at Joseph. So it's tricky because the way they play less try and play some good food. We'll which has absolutely perfect for Setif because it'll be an open game. That's how Rhode just wants to play in Britain. I think the might be safe, but the time to get the last game because depending on the count of scenario. The one thing has the Brian is not fair. But then again of a set in the show named the team a look at the Celebes. Yeah. And so as as much of an issue as the broin that was always some the almost equally as good to come off the bench is over tomorrow city win. The question. Women the Gulf Coast never talk about. Then saints him of a conviction tomorrow. Well, yeah. I. I don't see a way the month. You lose any games. Right. Then drop drop points. I just don't see anybody getting in the way. And that means that they went all the games they won the title. It's simple as on view agree. I'm inclined to agree. I do think that the left again at the had might be a bit of a banana skin because I think less team that you wouldn't really wanna play any time because they have plenty can turn upon the day. People are Jamie era threat, and is the one gay for me. I think city mostly put I think if faint hope for Liverpool do Liverpool probably win the league distinct sits it just don't stop at the moment away from the game. It's interesting Marla keeper reporting in tomorrow's newspaper that poor porous told his teammates that he will be leaving in the summer United. Then would use that money, of course, to reinforce the squad. What are you hearing in Manchester? Well, the word from United remains has always been that pope is not for sale with does the Kennedy the kind of the public word. I think privately I think the look at it and realized that if they can get the money back campa Graham more maybe hundred forty million pound, which I have what is worth with the current market nothing. It's because you've got to kind of what he gives to this team deal the team rand Paul populace didata gonna sociability Ron Paul Papa. Well, you need special place to play Paul graphic. Is this play that can could have load a maker profit uninstall again because I just think as I said Popa is a good place is a talent. And he scored logo this medal of this book when United needy most he's not there for United rebuild any. He plays the rely upon plays your less ability more and more kind of commitments that same because the ones I've never seen Popa. We sacrifice yourself. A team is quite selfish players is not a team player. And if you building seeing you need team players, and I think I think Popa the moment is that right? From the United so publicly say not for. So by think privately business might get done is that fair. Yeah. It's complicated. With Paul listen to Mark in a I think Bob as may be the best player in maybe the guy was most quality in the squad. So what kind of message do you send to the fans when you decide to sell your best player? But the same time as Mark said every time United wanted him to be the top player for big gains, he disappeared. So it's complicated for the club. And I think the. They should think of selling. It's interesting figure a hundred and forty never mentioned. Never say ram Ajay comparing to how much they sold is. I think they're going to lose money. I think he's going to be what sixty sixty five seventy would you? Trust them a big club. Yeah. Yeah. Event. Paul Paul was knighted in the wrong era. Po poll was perfect for some of the teams psoriatic Todd that are super dominant right and had people that keen and gags and Beckham and grafters and they're impose goals, and he could go into PC's and every now and again the Doug amount. Like, you're not club. Excellent. That's called the other side of the coin as is alleged to go places like Advantis where the super dominant, and the is all these guys around them, those bets in pieces all said he hasn't got luxury in this team. Good enough. So he has to have other faucets. These games surely United have to the positive approach and say, okay, we know that this guy Paul who's meant to be a main man when he should run with players. He produces how about we go and get please next when play with them get you get rid of Popo number one, you send the Romesh funds. But how are they going to try the top talent euro to a team this getting rid of the best player, but we were talking about this. If you're not coming right, and you going to be because monumental going to have to spend Bank to get good players. Should have you that good? He's going to be late seventy eighty million. Why are you going to mind United? Half a dozen teens gold on United even if even if poker stays while to. Majesty in Europa league again, which which could be a part for the money because. Oh, yeah. Because you sure intend that you keep in a guy like Paul Bo a World War. I think is if it's not willing to say where you're going to do if he wants to live. Can you keep him another question? I don't believe he wants to go. Right. I'm not sure that listen this guy couldn't wait to get him on Chechen aided. This do you think is really going to Chuck and see how come off. I'm going somewhere else. The prime is you trust what the French newspaper Lee. Keep said you now. Lever by the way, there's another. There's another site today is star. As much as much as the money in the talisman is poker behind this. As an issue is far from the only issue that solves got in my hob-. There is more way more pieces of this jigsaw puzzle to fakes than just what's going home with Popo loads, and you know. Maybe there are definitely areas of the team that soaks down these events the central Valencia even wingers Plainville buzz for years now. I mean, this club a club nothing against them. But Mata one, and it was never mind. United put it in one hundred years. So all these signs of commend all these guys are no Herrera's APS G. And who the hell is not move. I no. But he's going to all these guys have come in just such a downgrade on will the club wear over the years of the success of the end of Saddam. To try and quote together. Again, as is going to be a long long job. Find a word on this side with you when it comes to start of next season. What did you say we'll poke Manchester United player? I think he will be now I think he'd be going. I think I think the guys are sending will leave Manchester think ill leave the click things he'll he'll stay too long is giving United three years. Now, he's not really much. What? Zero Palade Cup. I think you'll be gone. So yeah, I think the bit of people you look at the defense guy say displays that last week in Barcelona for those plays played in Bosnia twenty eleven when you not tell the Champions League the hair young small Jones, and you know, smaller Jones of infinitely a decade the improved abroad same not allowed. So this has been going on well before Ferguson retired. It's been going on for ten years. Now that the the the poor investment the poll recruitment, set your signing Zo, right avid, silver, Sergio Koyo unites signing Gabrielle with San Michael Owen Babai. Tony Valencia replacement Aldo. That's why the problem started. It's a ten year thing, and it's like alongside from the slump Popa will in Itis next season your opinion. I don't think so I don't think so I think he's willing to live. I think if we keep say that is because maybe they heard something and maybe. But I think there is it's easy to to to send a message. If you want days and everything that maybe these you willing to to get Papa he's may be forcing the exit tomorrow. Of course, the big match, and we'll be here right off with a bring your own their reaction visual. Join us. To word for it. But in the end a Christian Erickson late goal was enough to give Spurs away in our home against Brighton. A little bit of breathing room between them and the chase impact free points, Chelsea four of awesome. Or of course in action tomorrow as you mentioned playing city the joke. Dumb Spurs just. Yeah. I mean a lot suppression possession. But you know, I've always said that when you team Brighton who are fighting for the very survival as they are bottling mccown, then you're going to face a team with a rearguard action. So they got the job that an end as say no pictures from scorecard, and so three points, and they're not really I think really comfortable position Ericsson proven to be the difference on a eleven. I really really love him is is a different player. I mean, we were we can talk sometimes about Manchester in eighteen and the position of pug, Bob, also Chelsea with is there is one guy who can make the difference for for his team is is he can find the magical pass Oregon Skogoe like he just did a today and he's a fantastic player. And I'm so I think I think it's just going firms that Tottenham is maybe a out of the full teams the best team. Yeah. So far the book sending a big favorites we see the remaining fixtures. Well, why not? Seeing him for a while. Stevie Spurs row. Ryan's suggests that fine. No problem for them. Correct. Who's the other one jail yesterday? I still in Chelsea, I don't I don't trust arsenal away from almost who said. And my goodness Mancha. She ain't going when another game the season. I'm not quite sure. Well, Chelsea couldn't being Burnley's. I should bomb layer one of those days that that will upset anything. They did a nice game with to ship PC's. No surprise. But. It's probably more through default. The Chelsea I'm gonna get through because I just don't trust us. So among chess United the only thing he wants to to to to deal with Shaikha. You don't because check I think is gonna finish of fourth. Yes. And easy only one. So you want to back him up. Backing anyone. I'm just asking the question when do you go they'll because we Swedes CV, change his mind. That you don't touch the late. Right. I think if mine say if money United List just to say which most expect hopping that they're going to have to beat Yale whole. Yeah. To to stunned any John's realistically and Stevie said at the moment, there's no sign that even if he gives him a kick up bauxite from no to allow jokes game. There's no sign that. It's going to be chilly actually said that it gives a kick out the bucks eight at half-time against them. But wall that win for more since lighting for talking go through our hives on YouTube channel VAT fat content available. There is picture you Frank coupling. Now. That's normal. Yeah. You only have legends. Well, that's it. You view in the meal. Which did you play for Goto bright? Bosso then once closest to being champions of Spain out very to victory away against holidays. Twelve points ahead of athletic at the moment action later in the wake Balser of goals to win league. And also the champion's that through the semi final on Liverpool. They'll favorites to advance through the funnel in Madrid. Your thoughts about semi who. Go through your boss. Well, I've just my my heart. I always been when I was younger a big fan of Liverpool without you know, with Kevin Keegan era, we St. Kinney dietitian all those players. The football was fantastic. And I think it's maybe the Liverpool year maybe winning the the Premier League and also the chimpanzees league and they have a fantastic team. And I think they can trouble wanna differently about not message. Of course, the guy is different. But, but you know, the three Frontino Manny familial and Masella of also some tricks to to change maybe the school. You're the only one I think he said the ions we're going against the events. I mean, sometimes you can be we'll be lucky. None of it. I think I think I actually is a fantastic team. I think he's going to be complicated for Tottenham. I XE foam is a favorite of the competition right now to win the whole thing because because the against by immune. Real madrid? And you've been to the bookies agreement here, they concept, right? I act so Spurs as the who would advance to the final. Welcomes extra time last thing before we bid adieu, can you? You know, you ado, ado, do what do we do, you know, the most worrying thing how long have you been here? Frankie four days. That month for you holiest. Benke said since over here, I know becoming more often from now on. Do you know what I love you guys? But he's doesn't seem to be the same from you, not replicates. I don't feel good back to you have ridge life. You know when we leave. Right. Stevie united. I wanna play. I. A phony, you know, Mark say on on the show L the. Shitty. They would rather mandated fundra Glavas city. One in Liverpool actually Liverpool funds of the same. They would rather have won the league United rarely. Oh. What's your favorite type of pastor favorite source and penny would pest though is my personal favorite? Vic-? Yeah. Yeah. Last night here. Penny a monthly China. Oh, kill cheval. Sorry. Oh. Any? Don't realize you're having the taste. What's place yet? Penny. Ship was any a monthly Chana? Listen to that all day Nixon. Oh favorite pasta? Pastor boston. Pasta where? Cheddar cheese on great. Illiberal? And then the chair the. Parmigiana never blended hair. By the way, we stinks. Told you parmesan. Stinks said a very sensitive smell. So when you're out in, and they waited comes up and says would you like parmesan and your pasta eagle stay? Logical. Great genova. We were empowered holiday good to the rest of you know, you don't. Couple of years ago. Monon hides another Bianca and one of the restaurants in San German and French fries. Been charged where on the side. No on the top. The. Air into restaurant steep. Couple of colleagues, we all depending on. Viagra and Marcus said all of an extra portion of fries went the world for it is go. I wanna told us before it just. Cod. Drop them in box office like oh, slushing food how much more would my subscriptions ESPN. Plus after Bates a keep Francona. He's excellent. Rooms where we are talking about it. The. That Craig is trying to put that down on the why Franken pup stories with Craig about pup stories in you know, the different. I was a professional football player. Go to pub-, right. Not. TV? I know coach your goal. The first time we went to I think east of west of London we went to play golf every most of the team we finish the eighteen holes. And then we went to clubhouse and house paint of beer, and it was competing, and I don't know last six seven eight busy. Yeah. I discovered another culture. Yes. L crazy. I was I wasn't Meiring them because out can this toot up though, it was six seven possible final question fee Frank because you've got to catch who do you think would win a match FRANZ ninety eight of France two thousand nineteen. I'm so offended that you even question after the flight. No, well, now really is difficult to compare generation. But don't forget that the coach of the two thousand eighteen team was our captain. I'm sure would make sure that we can win it would put pug, but number six. Yeah. I would I would say up passing. I would say the Ninety-Eight difficult to answer. Because offense anybody that? I think we do. Better technique say tactically better than them. Okay. I think the team spirit is the thing. You would move Examen. Hold on to fill bucks listeners Terim tastic. Yeah. Lottum blow, and then mouse, and you and then he ended show Petit the show man as he done done, the only one choice. F up front. Maybe what Steve but you had a beautiful season. And and it's true didn't score huge school running the workup. But we have the young two young players trees again children wreak. So we didn't have. But we're Tyrian re do, you know when we went to Glasgow to range us. He didn't do very well now and the here is would. Yeah. Yeah. No World Cup. It wasn't complicated. I flew was very complicated for him because psychologically when here you win the World Cup. And you don't go any goals when you had chances to score it is hard. And is it good? Nobody sells swimming pool in Brittany. Yeah. And it's very good for don't want to him because he has a very good career in Auxerre. And is a is a good person and any hard for the couldn't complain about these his composure and his commitment to two hours. I'd say we've done Frank. It's being the pleasure. We will be back tomorrow though. Because of course, it's just United against Manchester City will be looking back came all the matches. Go would you believe we'll be talking about also? Yeah. Final seventy five. What I say. Exciting.

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Men in Blazes 03/25/20: With Rog's Childhood Friend Jamie Glassman

Men In Blazers

30:56 min | 5 months ago

Men in Blazes 03/25/20: With Rog's Childhood Friend Jamie Glassman

"This is Rebecca Lowe. Will Rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in. Blazers on the NBC Sports Network. This is Raj from New York City. Beautiful New York City at this time of surreal challenge when so much of what makes us who we are has been taken away from us. A work are sports really are outside life. That's not lived in sweatpants more than ever. In these times we turned. Today's we love to family colleagues friends and say I thought it was an APP time to bring onto this port a Gen. Who's been my best friend from the age of zero? We grew up in Liverpool together. Yes we survived out bizarro schooling level college together. When I moved to America he came over and live with me and Chicago for that first lure issue and when I liked it got married I had to best men my brother knowledge and they spoke and they finesse speech by explaining the choice was a neighboring. Ghana is in their words. No Ages my only brother on my guest. Today is my only friend that is as they say truth in. Huma a speak to this blake four or five times a week. I think the collective memories we Shan't together they really and they they send to me in a way. We learned yesterday that the late Great Kenny roaches pet goat used to send to him partially well. He's the funniest down. I am partially. Because he's if fellay lifelong Evertonian and say to talk all Liverpool Life Liverpool coolest city that is our Everton love and how we've experienced this poor season of Jurgen klopp wonder such complex feelings. A welcome to the port from his home. Now in Crouch and London my best in the world. Oh it's Mr Jamie glassman laugh. Eliah good now J. I really just hearing your voice in The Hague mission accomplished soothing. Because you have been my friend singer in his right. Since the years era believes there is a member of the you've got you remember us in a sample together age around to I tried to. I've tried to clear that one for memory but it's my earliest memory is a some books as you call them. In America of me. Being in a sun box wave Mike Asks Jamie and flinging sound into his face which made him cry. And your mother. This is my earliest memory. Mother coming over saying why are you crying? Jamie and she explained to. I've turned something you and she said well just going through some send in his parenting many states that she probably remembered that when those few years when she would try to keep me away from you and not a not hassle that the Times that you called. She was seen as a bad influence on me for a long time. When it's it's safe to say that you suffer the horror of no meat pre much better than anyone in the world and the joy of all is though I keep finding new things out about you because you and I. A lifelong lulling flung Evertonians. But this podcast was precipitated by chat. We had just this Monday in which you blew me away. Jamie last month because you told me how you became a blue in the first place. Well I remember I wasn't. I'm not likely I was undecided until the age of around six and a half and I've got a very strong memory of of being given a choice who were are you. Are you in Evin? Fan Rollo for fun. I didn't have a good answer. 'cause you were inevitable phone. A my dad was never been found but Atherton machine and and Liverpool had Kenny Dalglish and will winning the league every year. Marin Marine European Cup final it was and I I chose you and my Dad. Over decades of glory enjoy or a different a different form of glory. Enjoy I suppose. I won't break this down because this is an amazing story. We should say you dad the great earth. Ahl just an incredibly chill man of one that who died far too young using noble client brilliant. Genta valley had incredible panacea. Dad It was so like him. Not many parents would do this but it was so like him to not want to influence you and empower you at the age of six to me. Let's just say you don't like to be hyperbolic. But the most important decision that child can make solo that is parenting. Because he was one of those like when he was growing up him and his uncles and cousins used to sit. Apparently nine of them used to be season ticket holders and go to Goodison every single week and sit in a line was very much a hands off parents and waited for me to make the decision. I made the right one for him. But did you did you did you. Because as you say this Liverpool when we were kids we were born into an era in which Liverpool began to win everything. Everything I mean. It felt like every year they were driving through the city on the back of a birth before during thronging crowds. They went away. They went right down the bottom of my road. It was just every year they were rubbing my face. It would be a league trophy or a European cups or sometimes both flew flew through chewing gum off the back of that birth which people would fight for. I'd always get pack. Chew it guiltily home and the my own efforts and posters on my bed but they were winning everything and you. Won't you tell me on Monday? You'll never you've never been sure if this decision to support evidence was the best decision all the worst decision you've ever made any like. It was an inevitable decision. I couldn't I can't imagine what my life I can't imagine what my life would have been like. If I've been level fan. I know it would have been filled with a different type of joy a an unadulterated one not tinged with not finished with Sam want. We spoke Monday. You said to me which was lovely. You said you are so glad that you became inevitable. Because if you hadn't he said you and I would not have become such great friend I stay. That's probably true. I think you know definitely the time it was a big bonding funding Parvathi friendships. When we were kids I mean later on. We moved onto other things. But I think it's probably it's given us. I mean how have we found over the past twenty years and just talk about what's going on before the game during the game after the game? Sometimes we don't use. Words is just fifty minutes of sobbing. When I say sometimes I mean a weekly basis but I loved what you said that we wouldn't be such good friends because when I put the phone down to you at this thing called if you chosen Liverpool Jay. Maybe you'd have you'd have for the friends better friends who once you understand. Victory and joy as well. As I've brought to the table I could have lived a life of great joy and silverware but instead I got you and Swinson Roundabouts Left Roper Frost. The path taken. I recently made a film about Liverpool's history in the shadow of the cope and to make it. It was a person the grueling experience having to ask dozens of red spends to just describe their heroes because they have so bloody many Kevin Keegan King. Kenny Dalglish Uniroyal Robbie Fowler God Stevie j Nando Sodas just Louis swear res- Omaha. There were so many and I was just like a horrific three days of filming. I was just genuinely like make it. Stop make it so. It says something about evison that. Tony Abbott was Afo CARE OF EVERTONIANS. Because we just didn't have we didn't have decades of goalscorers winners to celebrate this bass. Fishing is worth a trophy. Do something about full in those days. That was the defined absent. And you know we like to think we we had a few GR- Gloria's are teenagers in our teenage years have innocent. Were were an incredible club to watch. And he think about that first eleven and they just they look like they were. GonNa win every game but because of the history user that didn't stop when they played against Liverpool and you would just terrified that you know every other week he could be everyone but when it came to playing Liverpool You will never guarantee you up. You expect to dropping you. Do you talk about when efforts and come up against Liverpool and just not fair in the belly. I mean the Milk Cup final nine thousand nine hundred four eight top three magnificent collective movement of our youth and I think public speaking for everyone who is alive emergency time because Everton and Liverpool both reached the final still the cup. The Cup was what it was called. Then the counter bow. What it's called now. They reached the final at Wembley and this was against a backdrop of the Thatcher era when Liverpool the city because of the government policies was really on its knees financially culturally perceived by the rest of the country to be a wasteland for Russell J it was less a football game it was just the most bursting moment of civic pride right. It was back. In the days when Everton the funds through those more friendly camaraderie between the two of them. I feel like it's not quite the same now. There's more of an antipathy between the funds to clubs but right the back then you had eighty thousand people go down from Liverpool to London to watch the game and the more I remember there were like one hour a fool. Liverpudlian males attended attendance at the game. One Hundred Thousand Street to Liverpool. Were empty that day. There was just a moderate of scousers invading. Yeah coming from the north which we we knew we were seen as barbarians. We invaded London Liverpool red and blue ONA entire city. We all went everywhere with a time when you walk around. Wembley you knew everyone that gate but you. Obviously the famous moment of that final is when it ended in a draw and the whole crowd. The two teams together start walking round the pitch cheering the funds and the whole crowd. All hundred thousand started instead of cheering team. Started Cheering Merseyside And it was it was. I mean I was thirteen time. It was pre- moving mercy mercy seig. Mercy's we bellowed that we believe that it wasn't about the football. It really was about our chance to show defiance to those Londono that we were alive. We're alive and we were winning. It was incredible. Unity to be candid. Everyone felt unit. Say for me I was absolutely just pent up furious. Everything got screwed thing. Alan Hansen Humble. The goal-bound shot right in front of where we were sitting at Jimmy. Adrian Heath drilled one end from close-range penalty given evidence screwed again. Liverpool won the replay. Three days later you in case you're wondering but the funny thing about that game. I loved every second of that trip but one of my top. Three memories of that game is stopping off at one of the first McDonald's in Britain on the way to the match I had my first ever chicken mcnuggets and it tasted. Oh Daniel Balloon for me. It's magnificent by nine thousand nine hundred. Eighty five Ashburton widely recognized as one of the best teams in Europe. Not What team? We reached the final of the European Cup. Winners Cup kind of Europa League predescessor. We'd smash by Munich in the semifinal facing Austrians Rapid Vienna. Here's what's amazing to me about this game. You told me on Monday that you turned on the television to watch that final and he said I never doubted Everton. Were going to win. You didn't sow evitable going to win most things at the time you we were such good side we was so strong that the back and so creative upfront and we were we. Were unstoppable and I remember become random watching it with Matanza friends and those kind of twenty surround someone who wasn't really a nervousness just an excitement yes the appetizer. GonNa Winson European Silverware. Tonight's come on kept that Jay. Can we pause that because the concept of an Everton who wins things our audience and not even going to be able to conceive of that? It's like trying to think about me with had no how no way I mean. It is astonishing because we have seen evidence. Lifetime win things but when I look back on my life I don't really remember the wind so much the happiness and the word green movements of happiness Everton winning. Fa curbs Everton winning the league. Eighty four eighty five eighty six eighty seven. It's the savage cruel twisted losses. I remember that's what defines me. Why is that they have more? It's the hope that kills you. I remember this ad is also there was an FA Cup. Final in the eighties was eighty. Five eight six show where again if livable efforts and again eighty six? We were so good we were so good and if it was any other club you we would have beaten them but they just had US. They had over us and we went up. We went one. Lineker scored carry one that up and then Ian Rush equalised and the whizzes statistic at the time and I don't know if this went all the way through to the end of his career think it might have gone for the whole of this guy's career that whenever Ian Rush School would Liverpool did not lose and like at this point he'd been playing for the full. We can week out for like eight or nine years and scoring twenty five. Thirty goes to season and Liverpool never lost when he scored and so as soon as he'd schools it was like okay. That was it you you knew what was coming. He scored again. And then the mighty Craig. Johnston got the third three one. We lost lousy guy with a terrible parent. Tiny shorts. Remember this tiny show. Yemi homemade package package. We'll say in rush genuinely does for me if you never saw him play. He had a mustache. The face and the physicality of really innate block accountant would have been like you think. He's pretty good. He's he plays in the in some cleverly in in in Akron Ohio. But he was he worked so hard he was so clinical so lethal any her everton more than any of the plan November. Six nine thousand eight hundred Sade into my brain at Goodison. Livable won the Dobbie to might horror till I eleven year old Raj is horrid. They weren't five Bloody Nail Ian Rush scored four times in that. Gay Matata the saying by them. You always used to say it only takes a second to score a goal Roach which was on his way of saying that a game can always turn the game can always you know you can always get back into things so in my head I was not game with just the complete naievety and optimism of a child and I still believe even three meltdown. Still believe four hundred down to me. We were five zero down and in my kitty head. Remember this only takes second score a goal so Ergo as long as five seconds left in the game even five nil bloody well down. There was still a chance for. Everton to get back into this. My heroes could still get back into this and grab a point and as we entered the eighteen th minute j just bedraggled humiliated utterly crept on turnaround about that and said Ovo Damon smiled and I said it only takes a second to score a goal Roy and he turned to me just Ashen faced and screamed. Don't be bloody stupid real pops more than any Dama Life J. That was when I realized everything. I've been told with ally before you told me what I've said I was going to predict that those executives. I also remember a five nil where we beat Monday night at five. Nicholson and that was an experience There was something every time we got the ball. We looked like we were going to school. It was incredible and then eventually we we game ended five nail. I remember the next day going into into Lebowitz. The local Deli and Bali. Lap fits the old miner. Who SMELLS OF HERRING? The lovely man. Who SMELT HERRING? Who ran this shot for jet for decades Lean Dover to me and your time is and I I I said No. It's five past year nights on this mobile where I was. Yeah I was sharing in the grownups. Grownups wanted to share a joke and I was I was. I was a big yard love while he love. You've been saving up joke for forty years. I I remember by remember our mean that scares me savagely April third knowing ninety nine Darby Day I was back from Chicago. Semi we got tickets. Go to unfilled to what Jefferson loose to Liverpool. Three takes just to throw in some context. They've been one hundred and twenty curry total Darby's in a lifetime Jay and if it's football club of one just five times unfilled in a lifetime. This is astonishing to me. I counted them up before we got on the phone. And in this one this is not one of them just to be clear. Yes Everton again. This is now a pattern so terrifying Everton Lois into false hope scored I in the first minute the great ball alleviate decor too early too early we screamed even as the ball span in the back in Liverpool Nat local ended up winning three two two gay most famous Liverpool fans. Yeah because Robie Foul God's will be Phallic God scored twice and after I go Yup. It's a game where he celebrated miming snorting cocaine along the white lines of the penalty box to Moco Everton fans who kept chanting that he was a cocaine. We leave the game early at Jelly. We missed the goal. Levinson got a late friendly. Jeffers goal of the stadium ruled but we with best mate. Charlie's a big Red Skull Medical. Pass on this car. Which means you can park anywhere. And He'd start the call Roy outside of unfilled remember. You and me would just leaning against his car. When the final whistle when when the final whistle goes particular Darby but any football match just a wave nomi crushing people. Just charge the ground. That's what we go to witness. Just thousands of people running with with anxiety with anger. Everyone to get either. I guess defy auto flight one or the other and the front of the pack is just you see everyone running as fast as they can be running faster than anyone else towards us on the one road. Iran feel where we were the biggest loser in the stadium and it can't he looks it. Looks like Tony Hale would play him in a movie. This was this was Liverpool Gary Walsh and he was arrested and he was charging for his life. This guy. That's what we you could only see. Just I'm crapping his pants as he was looking behind trying to get ahead of people who wanted to beat him up sprinting ahead of the pack and yet when he came to worst lean against the count even in his fair. East e- stopped because there was something important in needs it to say poor message he wanted to deliver to us. Everton had been beaten and the biggest loser in Liverpool. Turn around to Marcus. What did he say? J. Focused Tom. Tom and heads fulcher off folk. Also how many syllables were there? In the would foot McKie four call. It was it was like an oasis version of full cough POM POM. I have rarely felt more degraded the heck up for a number of years after in. You know in defiance of that moment. God that's amazing shave mine off almost immediately. That is the big difference between you and Paul being in Evanston FEM is revelling in being degraded. And so one of the fascinating parts of this season for me kind of ask you about this. Incredible SEASON OF LIVERPOOL. One of win after win of collective tenacity of big verge of from three of like it can cope and his Jewish passion has been being forced to confront the extent to which my happinesses inevitably found for the last thirty years. I've realized Mahara how much of it is revolved around Liverpool. Not Winning the tightly. Either what will we be left with if Liverpool given this title with its trophy and it's asterisk well we'd be left just with our Self Sheldon Freud. The happiness in our own failure is ano- Evanson will rise again. We'll wait. Could I teach thing being the best thing about being an episode? In which is the best thing about is? It prepares for me to confront the darkness the sheer horror of life. I feel sorry for the fans because they have no also white so important for me to have my kids become blues. I work so hard. It's so bloody hard Honda's I've ever worked anything in my life to be honest but you sagely took the same approach is she taught did when it came figuring so to have the choice the choice tell us how that went my son allies now nine. He was similar to me around. Six and a half seventy wasn't sure what team is supported. The difference for me is we live in London. We live about a mile away from from optional and a mile and a half away from the Spurs Stadium and it goes to school and his friends awe. Well actually the summit. Some of them are spurs fans and some of them are found in some of the funds. None of them are. Everson funds and my wife was saying you should just. He's never going to be nervous and fun. Just bomb a spurs. You always proper western. She lives in a blessed time but she wouldn't fool sat on him. Either she's like just remove Gamma Spurs Kit. Get into a spurs fan or an awesome finding cut. Your losses didn't listen and I couldn't do it and three of his four of his closest friends at school all funds and he's gone to the dark side and he my son now is a liberal fan and pop me feels a great scientists that we will not share in this great thing for decades to come and fills a great relief that he's going to know a joy that I will never know which is decades if silver wet and you won't you best for your children right you do but to suffer what you've suffered over the past. Twelve months I mean when Liverpool beat Tottenham Hotspur in the Champions League final lost. Some of what? What did your then was eight. Eight years of age he was. He was eight the time and he was. He's like DOT DOT ACCAN- Account. Describe to you what it's like to see. Liverpool winning this way too is a beetle found for years and airy was they finally won the Champions League and Lesson to ask them. I just had to put my arm around him and said you know happy fleece on a map a flame. What did it feel like deep inside in moment as a blue being patronised by eight year old? Liverpool points like Tall in fiddler on the roof when his door to marry the Cossack by the line of Evertonians had come to an end? You Mary's you never been able to enter the promised land. Exactly exactly I showed him. I is you know. We've boo travels to the desert together and I showed in the promised land but I could never enter into with him. The Promised Land may not all it's cracked up to be believe me parenthetically must be a terrible father for making all my Kids Blues. Right dance between you and your goat. I wouldn't make that judgment. The time will come. The TIME WILL COME NOT WON'T BE THIS YEAR. It won't be next year. We'll be the next five to ten fifteen twenty years. If you hold out long enough Lori will come goodison again by your own for fifteen to twenty years. I DID ASK THEM ALL. My kids do for them. A blue and I asked them ahead of this. What do they feel to prepare for this? Podcast yet did some research. I said to each one of my kids together at the dinner table. By the way one of the great joys of this awfulness the silver lining of the awfulness is having a family dinner every single night. Just trying to have compensation of meaning and this was not one of them because I made the mistake of asking them kids. Would you feel Everton of given you in your life or does it offer you? What what what popular identity does it? Does it represent you ready for this because there is down so back my second son? Who's normally the quietest quickest to respond? He just genuinely just didn't have to think for a second is is. If you've been waiting a whole time for this question. Said what does it bring to you? He just looked and he said small victories. Said what do you mean? And he said that the Newcastle game this season when we were two nil up until the ninety four th minute and somehow drew to he said if he can survive experience you can survive life own mind Lord. How early manage to mess up your kids. The GETS WORSE MAKE Zion Matata eleven smaller than all of us. She said being Evertonian. We have more joy than any other team. Because when we beat Manchester United Fall Nell we overflow with joy we dance and Liverpool fans. Don't because it happens to them like thirty five times a season. That's beautiful that's beautiful. She's I'm Su-. She's clearly taken her optimism from Vanessa. My wife off my youngest. He said he's a he said. After a while thinking you said you learned to get my hating Liverpool and just willing manet and sell out to leave. I've done a terrible thing. And then some my oldest sixteen. He said bonding and shed experience with you. Doubt shouting at the television for a team who will only sell young players too early or by great players too late when they are past their shelf life is eternal hoop and then he came back into the room and he said that you do know that if Everton ever win the league you'll pants will be so stained like my do is now never been proud self clues by asking you. What does it mean to you to be inevitable and made so much and it is a Means all those things you kids have nailed it. It means reveling in the highs and understanding and living with the lows and it and it's a bones with you an Abon with my dad and it is a constant throughout my life. They're always there via doesn't matter. If there is disappointment it's just a constant is ultimately what it means to me. Jay went ahead cost that song that played whenever soon. Run out that Tony Tony. Tony Little Tunnel. Oh it doesn't mean that things to me it really does. It's my relationship with with my grandfather. Sam The first Blake ever in our family for my father. Judge OR LEVER WITH J. With You Dad. I mean a great Blais memory. Be a blessing with my kids. I hope I hope my kids kids. Please make them please please please please. Please made them blues. I mean really it. Means THE ARK OF LIFE. It really does it. Means the Ark of life and football as a purveyor of memory an conveyor of love. I love you Jamie. I really love you to bench. I love you Everton Football Club but I love you. I really even more than love. Big Duncan Ferguson courage.

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Golf Postcast: 148th Open Championship at Royal Portrush

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Golf Postcast: 148th Open Championship at Royal Portrush

"The Big One is the open and is the Gopher Post cast on Bruce Minton and delighted to be joined by two tipping Titan Steve Palmer and in the studio the one and only the legendary Mr Jeremy Chapman and we've also so go Glen Day from Scars Star Sports. He's the very much informed Glendale because last week he's liking for burn visa which showing itself on recent post came up trumps as he won the Scottish open at forty two one also found in the foot by the Maestro Mr Jeremy Chapman who also tips at twenty one winner in relief goosen in the senior so the boys are in full and they've been studying hardware coming up all the best bets not Charleston who's going to win the open. Market's winning score is going to be taught they taught that absolutely everything so grab a pen and paper and hopefully we have got all the winners for you but first of all before the tip start flying Glenn Take it away with an eye deep show betting thing from star sports on the open fifty all the vices this subject so Roy mcelroy folks out Old Saints One Jim Rome Sixteen to one dusting Jolson twenty to one justin rose rose and tiger woods twenty two lower zen show fillet twenty one Francesco Molinari and rich Denison justice. Thomas and Patrick can buy twenty. I`Ts Adam spell on so measly would not the rookie found out that he's Rees Jones Space Jason by Matt H._R.. Voters wanted outlets others will play Glenn and just a taste of what the market has been doing in the lead up to the action starting on Thursday at Portrush who's been most popular. The good spent a business no one massive liability but more efforts on Justin Summers Rousey pipe well in Scotland lost weight a good makes the rain up into Macaroni Rob tekere absolutely friendly mix of business excellent right and we won't you'll main tips now now chats just the one if you only have one Jeremy Chapman on this who would it be an why John Rome just one to two to Irish open already on similarly cautious and no one goes into this one is this worry about ten promote onto what he did the other way lean chance at that because he just still seems a little bit like a volcano white into erupt for me helps them <hes> <hes> okay so so you think shown everything points to him does does the coal sue I mean. Is there any difference between this links in any other rulings. It's generally my good friend who won the Irish open the other a day and they said well it's all I think that's a isn't it if he doesn't blow it so easy if if it blows it's tough business looking and the ones in because wonderful of the mountains and save it. It's handsome coalition. It's beautiful but I don't think about it. Okay so you think Rahm is I'd ill-equipped for the Test Steve One only on show. We're going to be having more than if he were streets. It's one who would they pay. Wamba only will be rory mcilroy. I think there's one party in put Russia on Sunday when the local hero wins <hes>. It's been a lot of talk about whether he'd be able to handle the pressure but I think he's he's a more mature character. Never now I think since tune in thirty <hes> again married every measured calm thoughtful character I've seen the season he seems to handle setbacks better and he's <hes> he's reading the same books me at the bone I she's reading the put me onto this book his the obstacle is the way the obstacle is the way to get into the philosophy of stoicism and I think he has more stomach this season and he very consistent you may ease eleven top tens in fourteen starts <hes> <hes> two victories. What was he won? The Players Championship which is the strongest field of the season won the Canadian open with a frankly ludicrous standard of golf. He won by seven shots there so everything macro he's done. This season is encouraged me towards his ultimate ultimate goal and I'll think he can handle the pressure of the hometown hero. I mean you've got to remember we talk about the call. Spin classic linked same as everyone but not that many players played their competitively and I think it's a significant different nationalities. He's grown up playing the famously shot that sixty one is a sixteen year old there in the north of Orlando Amateur Championship so I think that's an edge and I think the first few holes are quite easy in comparison to the rest of the cool so so it's going to be key for macaroni cost on get the crowd pump in they can bounce off each other and you know those early hose provided that opportunity. What's that book about? What's the K. learning you've had from the what's the obstacle is the rock? The obstacle is the way our on yeah yeah you turn adversity adversity into advantage aren't nearly stages of at the moment but some year rather than capitulate when you make a bogey or <hes> you know something goes wrong at work you yeah you dig in Antony she the positive tune into an advantage fantastic writing plan. What is your number one pick on his way? He's Henrik's Bentsen refund any full race. Wait subset previous when I applies will in late pulses I nine full sing for lost time at the Weizmann a good drive away vs free would <hes> Talk Stats in driving accuracy in these last four route seems awfully taping it on the show. Stop is going to be Kane. It's way cheaper narrates. The grains hasn't been patent so well race may also basically I saw way end and it'll by his own plot well. It's thought that an awful smack matt safe right to Harley in the stats ball trust be all as he's dimes. Ghodusi prove can handle the pressure and then again at a loss random through a few years ago <hes> I think if he certainly had a massive weight possibly big night second Kate Steve Only come back to you and ask you which attributes you think is going to be most important as the winner of the twenty one thousand nine hundred open the when we look back on. Would've done what best approach shot strokes gain on approach and scrambling to the two key stats because the approaches very very tiny targets on approach because it very heavily undulating Greens they feed off towards the bunker so you've got the Roy section of these green or you're in trouble so actor approaches and everyone is going to be missing Greens because they also difficult to find so then you want to be scrambling well when you miss him so yeah the key stats I'm looking at okay. Stay Jeremy Give us your due to mine dangers to Jon Rahm who is twelve on his open debut US Shenzhen lovely debut and his come on this one memorials on the most impressive aforementioned this year and if very good on the majors nine to the MAZDAS and in all areas pity I two very good majors out of three so he's a big occasion plan and he's not over faced himself and the nice run and you'll be up for this. I know who else she likes to give rom the most to worry about just in rows of Kathy's because it straight and tell me straight hit it is with a good strategy who who's she couldn't win by rose when it was not your honesty and it blew then did it fair enough. Okay that's good then all right so rose and can lead to give rom the most thing about Steve Complete your podium. We'll do the the outside is but if we're doing a one-two-three number one rory and who's going to be turned three number two is Joan Rahm. I think preparation is key to winning the open championship eight of the last nine winners played the week before <hes> Joan Ron played at the hinge the week before last which was good preparation Paul McGinley latter that Hinch Golf Club setup as close as you possibly could to <hes> to this way he wants to provide the players with a good good lead up to to the open and the Ron blue the field away their sixty four and sixty two over the weekend the win that prior to that he finished second outer armor <hes> despite feeling under the weather and plan a course which plays against the strength so <hes> the love the way ROMs coming into this tournament wouldn't wouldn't worry about as open record. I think he's got links golf now. He's for tremendously young people forgetting how good roms become with so little experience and he twenty four is not play that many tournaments and one bundles of already and major victory is inevitable. I think I think chaplaincies Roy Nazi Second Irish Open when his way you must remember I it is I already show when we came in two thousand seventeen pull shoe it which is just up the road from portrush in Northern Irish Benue so in this part of the world is being deadly and <hes> yeah there's nothing particularly frightening about whether cost is weak the wind speeds and not going to be extreme so there's plenty of birdies available to keep Roms pecker up so yeah I think I think the biggest danger to to mcelroy and then complete in the portfolio big approach. She's got Lou used housing. I think is the best of the mid mid range prices former open champion won the two thousand ten edition by <hes> seven shots in Andrew Runaway victory that the home of golf and <hes> yeah that's not the flash in the PAN is majors record. Generally annually superb is twice lost in playoffs to bubble Watson in the two thousand Twelve Mosques Zach Johnson the twenty fifteen open championship. He was second in the two Thousand Fifteen U._S. Open second in the two thousand Seventeen U._S._p._G._A.. So major venues typically bring out the best in news thousand probably because they're so difficult normally he's still such as solitaire degree game swings very consistent swing churns out fairways Greens number one is R- <hes> macro to run number three who stays in and <hes> Glenn Glen. You're going for occur. Remember gun for number. One is it stinks and then who's two and three well. She'll how many going to read real actions website's the second choice immigrant phone probably system as have applied the guys driving activate and scramble well. He writes by the fantastic how he dies. We'll see co pay five a week and ACRO. Abating quiet counts made last summit. Yes I'm an old cy writes impacts degrading regulations. I own the Kate. Hey all so he's dying. We're working well. Brilliant is it because the commission free thanks flower lates Albany's shot. He's getting in to grips with it will mature more impactful shish. I Mo consistent say and again kind of the shots will be aids this. I think he'll think my anyone else. You need to mention Jeremy Very Fun than the chauffeur pronounced that right he's only played into every second nausea in time and you know it's. It's just tremendous underrated. It doesn't look bomb proof doesn't he right temperament on big occasions when the torch engine is no is very much contender yeah excellent Steve. You've got one more near a massive massive price. That's why followers remain Lang ask it to two hundred fifty two one. He loves links golf. He won the twenty Fifth Championship at Carnoustie. Obviously an open venue brilliant last week at the renaissance cub a really really good open warm-up finished third in the Scottish open hits his really well so he can handle tough tracks or good pick you like I found him very much for the top. Some of the top Frenchman top French favorite Lorenzo varies favorite the four were very value Rhyming Gordon stave off that ringing endorsement. Tell us more. I just WanNa say play the cutler majors when he was an Ama- Tony finished thirty ninth from the Masters and sixty fifth in the open so this is I started is a professional in overseas is much more confident much more. Well rounded plan these days so yeah. I'm expecting big things. Remain on you. Ask Okay and Glenn's to from left field. He promised us who are they. It's a young man funding. Stay on the page. I had a good end Sir two thousand eight saying I've see three top seven finishes and my parents in Australia. Just riding on a five shops proved that he could get the job done. I'm Wayne on the web comes in and out season twelve thousand applies to go performance by well on the sun guy at Google targets the ladies <hes> I in the travelers recent Jason May indicate while nine states in the Orange County. I look at Link Scout Reserve very promising performance. GET DRAWS ABLES strike good hot not gonNA describe his stat side big net fill <hes> improving season by season nine hundred and fifty dollar Mexican winner J. Lo Trevino's who knows Hoffman was he won the Australian up which sounds wonderful about five the winners already fulfilled okay a new Seattle one thing Glenn 'cause purely on these driving actually ingrain regulations. That's he's healthy batteries. The last five complaints Oedemas they ranked in the top seventy driving stays in May two goes on to win a finally <unk> US when he <unk> y seven shot laid in the bombs insurance. I could easily of four of the right of that the next week from behind off. It's afraid rounds. The Guy Needs Swing tonight in the coastal Friday in this way anymore crisis he he is two hundred fifty two one bob. Okay yeah is that site <hes> property and I said to the top ten mafia good value side is guys well proxies becton. PERHAPS OF MARVELOUS US okay Steve Wildman draw any sort of advantage because we touched upon the weather and it is crucial in terms of if you having bets on the winning score the players on the Paul. I'm in the full. The latest focused I've seen is going to be pretty damn poor week pretty really windy on Thursday and Sunday not quite so bad on Friday and Saturday so what's your reading of how the conditions could play part in the outcome this tournament get huge jewel. Boss Thursday is going to be the windiest at the days <hes> but it's going to be pretty consistent dice just slightly more wind in the afternoon so yeah the only star should have the best view on Thursday but it will flip around on on the following day <hes> not heavy breeze on Friday Saturday and then a bit more on Sunday so yeah. I don't think it's going to be huge. Severe test of breezes we think the winning score will be as highest ten or twelve under par. Yes quite lush. Venue CHAPA stole my handsome is is a very lush links and I see <music> similar schools. How Pebble Beach Played Pebble Beach was a very lush links Davis to thirteen on the powers and it so yeah I think ten if you get ten under par you got a winning chance I think maybe twelve what we needed to lift the Jug Insurance Summer Evan Jaren eighteen gene on the when they won the Irish openness? I seven years ago visit much toughest difficult cost to new holes in so you would quite me a full non from nineteen fifty one earlier. Tell us about that. One giant Baloney Plastic Paula is very western window. It don't be that when this one was two eight five three on the power and the power seventy two now. It's only seven to wasn't him. I remember that when you say what the initial demand what was the first new into it was the one that Tony Lost Seventy Trevino ship into exit right then so let's look now add some of the tops markets because this is a chance maybe for the guys to put up tips the they weren't quite confident enough to tip them on out right but they think this value elsewhere so Jeremy. What are you? What have you got for us? Well very much life Brendan to be. I'm Steve Steve's led the page on it and the wonderful pull out who's written most of research if new U._S._O.. Came over here and qualified and it's not strong advocate is the next best just one of the Japanese practical Kanaya European champion Schmidt. He's particularly good and this fellow's news was overshadowed by the Hoffman. Where's your plan sober so Britain and finished twelfth but he played the blind? The Terry finished level with his day in two eight five five and Brandon Woo as as the more or Patsy Kushtia can talk Frenchman mentioned Runanga very good project to fall they may Lorenza Verron the favorite one of this. I saw and he's playing really well this year. He's been reimbors- so bloody miserable time not as positive as August I into Mr j Korean Lambda four that was pretty good bet and also talk Wti nine two along with what came name and from Chilean eh those are the two nine kids and they're only M._S._a.. As well because so many of the established players never seen portrait before the first time is not so disadvantage advantage as they would normally okay exit vote on Jason Gems in there Steve. What have you got for us in the tops markets in the chops brandon who is the only top alive so chapter stolen under their own brand of water? He's the best amateur in the world finish thirty fifth in the U._S.. Own but then he jetted over to qualify for this and you go in by rights he went to a final qualifier and Sin Sin Andrus famines in Andrews and it will not by three shots I mean that's an incredible effort to just bowl over from California and yeah yeah you never know played any links goal for the e sixty four sixty seven to win that so yeah I think I think who is the standout amateur in the world. I think they've got some talk. Cuts come to missing might the cart so we'll do them in a SEC after Glenn's given us his top tops oops all Asian market L. C. Maxium Chung that mark good way jazz geno Nelson Young by really well in they have P._G.. Near full basement is that by committee go on track. An iphone was on the on the on the Lesser Belie in Japan inviting strives thought he's had no. Aw finishes this year and so wins so he's pay good goals all year round is in good form a moment after this question marks headed them all hit six things. I WanNa thank you very good price. An each wine. Trust spend on well. They stay by not is one stop South Africa van Royan again these lovely racing they always as well. Is that a very consistent year resnick Glenn always out there isn't any age the way back to that. I'm a laid off three dollars a massive mystic out which was disappointing a good loss way up so you had a mass thoughts around full. We'll go back as ice confess. The lobster guy against the blue used is an on off any is in contention yeah. He got his own. He's only hall of awfully officials of late flaky for me. Just go through the motions Rodman Greis Tonia misfold lost five gaps infidelity when the last week John Day they geisel Weiss struggled backup faster way dot com all-seeing contended justin hollering phone H. Y.. Royan bemis Donna Sola there and Asana one subterranean bannon implying imply a as it may and often especially guys against him in apply online admittedly never piloted young say size nudzejm say we came is too movies are beat rivals about guys again so the answer foam three to one that is lovely stuff to miss the Kutcher for former champion in two thousand fifteen it one play often he's back on the outrun is hopeless which many hopeless he's wanted nine ten thousand nine to office being atrocious. Che's really money there no top tens and only one top twenty okay well that that brings us onto to make into miss the Cotton J. Your Bank of their exact MRIs interesting it does it has made the most of the but don in fifty eight hundred fifty nine. I think it really right for N._F._l.. Okay Steve. What have you got for to make an missed off? Wake up with three British players to to make the cut because I think there's a lot chaff in this field and three players Algae Gangsta mate the pool wearing shorts brought to them. I don't know why Paul wearing which odds against the easing really good Nicholas Season He loves link skull Birkenhead loud ease links natural <hes> finished seventh in the Irish open the other day on a lynx tracker due to qualify for this and he was tenth in that twenty twelve Irish open it so portrush show issue hit the ground running the other big bras con con assignment seven hundred and fifty to one in the outright market and Matthew Baldwin Twelve Sir fifty to one was in the I mean obviously there quite ambitious best but if you have laughing Jay why he pledged to cuevas adults often times when we finish let me finish. I was GONNA say they all ambitious wage agent you go top twenty. I mean with these majors. They mount markets and you're gonNA talk for he taught forty exactly you can have spreads pets if you're if you're so inclined so <hes> Kona saw him in Matthew Bowl much better than and they're also suggest <hes> both one very low great events this year so I'm on the challenge toward the end. I won't potato one in Turkey. The challenge tour <hes> E- Salad in nicely groupies links national twenty four year old Scott Aplenty second open so nerve shouldn't be an issue and then Matthew Baldwin if he's twenty third in the open birds the smirk on your face Bruce. I'll just think where would they have to finish for you to entitled to an apology from Jeremy there to make the Commun- Baldwin's eleven to four two may the sime seventy four to make the cut so the book is presumed. They're gonNA miss the Cup of are these to play well on the Gulf and Medi Cal. You're going to get old Kevin Keegan on. I would love it if they want it right. Okay any Michael missed. Cut Fence is Glenn Hayes what we're going to do next. We're GONNA both through some of the players we haven't mentioned and I want an eye snappy line from each view on their prospects. K. Jeremy Will Start With you on Brooks PCA Johns. I mean nothing against him until there's one floor of the last nine majors played and doesn't win the Moon's light Asian doesn't bother with the other events reason fullness irrelevant Kudu member to roll portrush as three majors and his memory. It was a fall around themselves a heady. Is it fine for himself so I haven't been advantage to Dream Team to stave dustin dusty wise becoming the majors bridesmaid now and Rickie Fowler <hes> gets called the nearly manages but some Johnson's finishing second in Italy's majors. He's still only one one two thousand Sixteen U._S._O.. <hes> and he's not doing great nick so don't fancy in this week Glenn July Tiger nine also injury scheduled out so it's not being applied since the U._S.. As well as I think it's a tough all this week on facts into missed the cut Jeremy Gillette the defending champ mm Francesco Molinari why air has plans while it was this time last year came into the up and formed and I write sort of game for the course but I'm GonNa tell you into it now. Stave Adam Kim fine young man yeah yeah he's got a lot going from actually got fantastic open record but just can't trust them on those short range party. I E you can imagine if he is in contention over the weekend. You misled you short putts. USTRALIAN and <hes> Glenn tell us about the chance of Tommy Fleetwood so just not very good whole bit recently and often major parents <unk> RADII sixty in years. I struggled in those under the radar this year no pressure on compared with last year when it was up and around laid all the time the same might be said Jay Justin Thomas what you think Justice Thomas Lives John's has been injured image somewhere and it's been billy up and also came rattler end to just out in the first five or seven but it's very good effort and I wouldn't wouldn't be surprised Steve. Do you gave Ricky Fowler any chance. No I think the major frustration is bubbling over now. I just think he plays well. Don't ruin McAfee plays. Well planning to win a major isn't he. Yes oppose he is. I suppose he is but some yeah there's others much before this week and I have my coacher of Mon- Money Glenn also mill game like just with the white light last week it was in contention in the purser and double bogeys backpacking around so be rabbit as well in unlinked Osaze Abacha when he comes second space here. It won't for Joel Jr finding they belong here. We buy yeah I'll say wait just doesn't win getting ten places you might as well back in each right because you never know to hear Johnson in the first five yeah right then one more h <hes> you can go first Jeremy with Jason Day. No I don't tell anyone there was in two thousand sixteen when he was the best player in the world quite some way don't know I want something to him. I mean we're going to do next because that Steve Steve Tell us about Jordan spate of bats into missed the cut well a win win. You might win 'cause he's teething student. He's he's putting again but <hes> you know going to get to the green in regulation play. I must say by the way I think we just besmirched Jon Rahm than we same Faraz. The Best Player never won a major. I think rahm takes that first because it went montgomery to Westwood Fowler now you think that man's leads with Rome Yeah Yeah I think that will end on Sunday and then we can send it back. The foul could oaks and finally Glenn what you think Oh you've mentioned that so the price into Shambo this funny feeling in the wind the might just come back to former call. I think they would have been twenty two one for this so easy a bell forty old ways evening as well <hes> well by well last concern. Having a good way is up to lock are now. He doesn't hold a in a strange way for most of the results of multiple to win links. Go may be a little bit early ray yet. He said he got the game so compay certainly waiting WANNA put y'all okay Stephen Jeremy do things in very unusual old ways as well but by very effectively they do. We'll give you a blast for this. It's available in own news. Agencies is free in the racing post today. We'll see go by the Racing Post Page twenty four pages pat with absolutely everything you need including Steve's play-by-play guide I mean this is a work of art and I think John Lewis saying thank goodness invented after you stop doing it because it some piece of work is awesome orange contribution very well read the- Molin train coming up and it's a masterpiece really lovely stuff okay now. Let's talk about first round leader Glenn. Hopefully you've got show to hand while you are getting that Steve. Perhaps you could tell us whether we should be focusing on the morning or the afternoon stars and then maybe pinpoint a couple of bats yet we should focus on the morning stars because getting less breeze and obviously the freshest of the Greens and there's two like really massive processor route really early Zander Lombard two hundred to one. It's very interesting really inconsistent. South African player chart go more confidence in no carry-on Lombard. I mean I'm not use Lombard Fan but he does not this clerk of amazing starts and then pitch. He's a minor curry's is the people in the know for sixty four in the Arshad. Louise opened the sixty four finish second off the round warm and then and then says you often does but I think he can hit the ground running in this particular because he finished runner up in the two thousand fourteen hundred championship pool Russia was competitive positive course experience and in his previous two opens. He's been out and gates like a like a ground so the ground do is foster out the gates. The champ WHO's flying my hat to nothing is selection is your other one stevie and the other remaining ask Roy found thank you found is a game on on Sunday that he stood in the Scottish open if he carries that form to put Russia which Abo Abo about the the gates of the starting stools or whatever you want to call them very quickly spin on basil brush this isn't it with him. Interrupting dropped the time plumbing ack Famille Glenn Fuego a show of betting on first round leader. I it deals six as well in small groups rory mcilroy when he thought Jim Rome twenty one dusting Johnson Tiger Woods needs to one justin rise traits Francesco Molinari intend to show and I thought to one Patrick and my forty two Jason Digesting Saunas Rickie Fowler and any particular strong views on morning afternoon for Thursday clem unsurprisingly amazed they took another gone Yup. I made on the site. Go it. Just it's just the Hawk and the arid club tonight. We're winning the I've been of years back. They will die in Buffalo. He's not going to win a tournament so he's more than capable of shooting stars round. Does it say regulate US say bright line in a very next minute. I'm Bob. He does lay westwood good links foam or the law Jeremy Jeremy at the State House said it's pretty brown I the last time I saw is that wide. Remember the jungle boat with the big snake. Is there like that Jeremy's is a lot sources. She can't believe it. Can you say you're going to be back in west. I wouldn't be surprised here's your let it last week and let me down so they might do listen. Listen listen never mind who you're theorising and this one to knows that Charlie Hoffman the king of the first row need is in the very first group. We just back Charlie Hoffman. What price is the half plan? Oh It was twenty. One is being all day this week and it's Charlie Hoffman first round leader in any other business Jeremy's anything else you WanNa talk about the we haven't mentioned. I'm interested President Thompson him myself. I thought top center interesting as namely fear. What isn't it rubbish Jiminez Darren Flop Poll Lauren? Tom Lehman everyone's dipping laming because he made the the regular tournament. Come name is ton ceased is all the laws from two to retire in ten years to cloth and loyal been difficult and I I wouldn't be really lovely fairytale Taryn cloth done so how much rain this tournament to to island as I of it thirty five now playing with Hoffman and two good finishes on the champions tour played that well the rest of the time but say nail position is not that great so you're gonNA pop down Klein Brim as a great great man and I hope he has a brilliant week because he's done so much as you say for Gopher Northern and as an absolute superstar Steve Wells. Have you got for us that we haven't mentioned the forecast now. I was GONNA throw in for better the week coming up so I keep powder dry for that one and then anything else who I mentioned that you want to get off your chest nine mentions summarizing when be sectors I showed up take the tapes and Stanley has talked ten. Oh Yeah of course yeah that's the great thing is as we say I do with the top ten. There's no point just back in the top thing because so many firms are doing or templates you minds back meet try and then because you kick take yourself to kingdom come wouldn't you if someone top ten and then they GonNa win but top twenty and she sales whether it's thirties and forties so there's loads of different ways to back the players you fancy before we get the best bets the way. I want to know what the worst tip you've heard from the other two tonight Jeremy. What's the worst tip you've heard of the Steve or Glenn noticed that you were laughing at most of the money I wouldn't be surprised in the first round Dave the worst? We've heard from one of the other two secretively Hawkeye I I a Colo Stanley's majors records. I'm louise terrible honey. There's absolutely no doubt about that right and never mind the negative. You've already got one bell on the open this week. WHO's it going to be Jeremy? Chapman brander move into retirement okay Steve Palmer Laurie mcelroy Jon Rahm Ju four com here what prices that hundreds of one one hundred to one one hundred older yeah either a jewel Focus Yep Glenn Twenty okay lovely and finally we must reiterate the outright selections. We always do this jake because if people have been listening missed something but we're GonNa Nice and sensibly reiterate your main fences are so to win the twenty nine th one thousand nine hundred years is open championship Steve Palmer. Your Selections Are Rory mcilroy Jon Rahm Louis used his remain Lang. Ask Glenn die and websites and Apron and Carlos Stanley Jeremy Chapman given your outlook columnists weightless could take quite a while on John Rum Patrick Justin Rose Gender Show on Brilliant Weld on nights. I was absolutely superb. Thank you so much Jay. It's been a real pleasure to have you in the studio you an absolute legend I ever fantastic. Wait what you're going to be doing sitting at home and lapping it all up and Bush David will always know. When was the last time you went C.? J. Didn't get done sandwich next CICCONE. You do a wondering if I'm still alive. You'll be there stave. Your is Jeremy touched upon. It's the first time in how many years you haven't been in yeah yeah. Two Thousand Three was Moi. I open at Sandwich so I'm looking forward to getting back to SAM which can't be a bit sandwich notching closed for us so ed I mean we know we're not support rushed him germ last year we look to Airbnb and we were looking at combinations. It's hopeless isn't it none of very expensive mission that so yeah we can afford sandwich next year then chapters and will you be blogging awake Steve or giving joining US regular updates some wrenching post dot com. I'll be doing all I possibly can bruce. You know me fantastic excited. We'll price win money this week things. They've very confident this week very comfortable. I'm confident most weeks and we haven't had a great year but I fancy rory and Rahm really caught strongly yeah excellent Glenn it must be really busy for you is head Honcho of Star Sports Golf Department you in every day or did you get any respite now tomorrow. By old dial the state with the about how pass rate on the on the Gulf coast native here working Friday Saturday on on the side of some back to the conclusions takeaway should be good. I don't even know what the tournaments all next anyone no. We go next week yeah because the W._G._C. now running back for that Steve swanning off somewhere. Now I'm here I'm here. I'm here awake you back next week Glenn.

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Remembering Liverpool's Comeback over Barcelona

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42:19 min | 3 months ago

Remembering Liverpool's Comeback over Barcelona

"C'mon solicitation of ESPN FCC HERE ON ESPN plus coming up the second part of that interview with under a rare away out and now he's still got the potential to be one of the best players in the world and would you believe it's a year ago to the day in which Liverpool amounts of that extraordinary comeback against Barcelona in the Champions League saving Craig with us to reflect on that shocking hair. As well for what will be and a special extra time but we start by bringing you. What's going on in the world? Forgotten Corona fires and it's great news is an aim jeremy kick summing up quite nicely kickoff again the Bundesliga will return just remind how the table looked before things were suspended by Munich. Type of the table however it was pretty close knit full clear of Dortmund live. Second third have brewster Gladbach then in fourth on the schedule has been announced and may the sixteenth. We'll see six games in total so Ferruccio Dortmund against shout. Certainly the standout tie that and then twenty four hours later. Cologne take our minds as Union Berlin. Playing House to defending champions by Munich. And then on Monday. It's Verte Bremen against by Leverkusen Juliana Ron and Gab. Mock coffee with me jobs. I want to start with you and a little bit away from the Boondocks what we're talking about. Is it true that you'll president the President Franz calling up other presidents and saying don't let football happen yes it is true? I was GONNA say unfortunately I'm not really sure why in my almost tried so hard to convince other countries to suspend their season and finished us. He's in like they did in France because this is not the first time he's been trying pretty much for a whole week calling in Ghana Merckel and tell her that. Gush would not resume doing the same for Italy. Spain England the French Minister Magazine. I knew according to her counterpart in order countries as well to do the same I guess maybe Sola Unity and mccomb wanted Europe to be together in this and and to work together and doing the same thing however is one really desperate for him. I think to do that as we've been saying everybody has been facing this crisis in a very different way and if some countries are ready to start again playing football great for them we clearly. We're no in France but yeah it's not. I think the best image for my phone to have now with those things coming out. What did you make of this guy? It's very odd I mean. I don't think it's great. Pr For him. If you're going to go and if this is something you WanNa do if you don't want to devote you don't want to divert resources or attention away from for more pressing issues. This is something you do beforehand. This is something before you go. I knew shutdown shutdown France. You have these conversations before now that they've shut down and everybody else is trying to get back into the Buddhist case actually getting back It kind of feels like wait. Feels pretty mature. Frankly because the reality is other countries are by definition other countries and to do this even take Joe's point about Europe and so on he's not doing this via the European Union. He's taking this upon himself because a ton of other European countries and it's not just the big leagues you mention but it's Poland Portugal Denmark. A lot of other countries are also on their way back to playing so he seems very much out of step. Let's move it forward what we've seen happening in. Spain of course plays being tested over the last forty eight hours Barcelona reporting for example. The all the tests came back. Negative regards to their squad. Were they jewels in the comeback trail. I think they'll try. Can Holiday tables was very happy to the players? Going back to training or a individually and we social distancing we saw Senate incident in Madrid for example coming players with a with the two meter distance with gloves and the mask and everybody them as well like you said everybody's been tested joining US resumed. And then there's still hoping for the League to come back on June the twelfth which I think is a realistic target really Huggett. Obasi is trying his hardest and we've heard a lot from him. He's been talking law. He's been very vocal and very present in all these crises. There's some issues to and we heard that we've gone through. Who's the head of the Players Union in Spain saying that it was a love issue? Is the players. Wanted Resolve questions that they have and they wanted answers sue so for example perfectly amount saying my wife is expecting a baby. This don't want any risk and going back playing with putting at risk and the health risks which could understand. I think there's a lot of players around a Boswell players saying that we fear of going by playing so the issues especially on safety to resolve the alleged planners there. There's there's clearly progress so far and there's a good name in a month time to stop playing again and I think they will achieve them. We won't eight league APP. How much they learned from what we've seen in Germany to try and get Syria back started trucking things very very closely along with everything that they've been doing Germany. Both was testing regimen. Players have been tested all week and as a result we're getting positive back DNA testing players and staff three staff members and three fewer Gina. Players testing positive. But you know the attitude is. That's not necessarily a bad thing because obviously if you don't test people you don't find out who's WHO's positive. I think the big breakthrough will come when they managed to go and they meet with the prime ministers while they've been meeting with the Minister of Sport and the Health Committee of the Ministry of Health the Ministry of Sport Virginia's by the photo who by this point must be a household name to our listeners. These name literally by the way Danny case you were wondering means sorts out. The guy keeps changing his mind. Every forty eight hours now all of a sudden. He says that he's hopeful that on May eighteenth they'll be able to to return to group training albeit without contact. They're calling that face to face. Three will be full training with contact. And of course phase four implicitly means going back and actually playing games just away from the pandemic just a moment just on the front page of sport was in saying that Latinos Martinez one step closer to signing for Barcelona. Boss seems to be making no secret and the fact that they wanted him Joe's but can they get in. Can THEY AFFORD HIM? If it's a play straight who's going in the opposite direction? Well you're right. That's the that's the biggest question. Can they afford him? So there's one very simple way to release cruise one hundred eleven million euros. You pay that is yours yours. He's Yanni's clearly the future he's he's having an outstanding season within while is before the break so pay and he's yours if you compare one hundred eleven which Khan and by the way. I don't know how they can afford name is they can't even pay for lower without but anyway that's another matter. Then you find another way. The way that they're trying or seem to be trying to find a sixty million euros so pretty much half of the release close plus two playas again. It depends on who plays are is the author of for example. You would know you're probably came to work again with and other news. Mandela is meadow and Alenia who seemed to be the two players into really want from the boss. Squats is hard to know until you know exactly who the players are because different sixty million prescription you and grysman or if he sixty million with done Gab. It's not the same story so I still think it's a very hard to make money players to swap. But maybe that's the only thing that bus I can afford right now. Gentlemen thank you very much for a lot. More from Gabon. Jewish. You can download the latest podcasts. Which today actually you can check out over on. The website. Geico knows there are many reasons why you ride from the Camaraderie of the bikers. Band of brothers always there for you. Rain or shine to the amazing savings. You get with Geico on your motorcycle insurance and accessories coverage all year round but for butting cornhill. It was one reason in particular bid. Was My helmet hair. Osborne born with helmet hair. I've tried to cut it a bunch of times even buzzing it but it immediately just goes back down here. Geigo motorcycles fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more in case you missed. The first part says interview with a rarity can take over on the website. It's now as promised time for part two. Toss little by talking about name. Oh what's so special about him now that you've seen it up close person day today because unfortunately he does come under a lot of criticism you know as well in the media stuff put. What's he dislike APP? Espn what makes him so good for me said. He's one of the of bit of the shoe prices. I have found in my career because as you say all what media says would media speaks about team is not always positive was trying to find a way to kill him an iphone that guy that these happy everyday that these trying to make the group strong each organizing some dinners at his at his house to be too. We will be together to try to win us as many trophies as possible is smiling every day creating a good that more for the team. I S I told you before. He told me he was a happier than the never in the club. The team so it looks like I read differ. I read about the different player that the one that iphone. Bet I understand is very in all the people wants to talk about in. Maybe I don't know maybe cost of each hair. Or maybe because of the way he drives his show maybe because he always plays his Miami your worst who to football everyday and killing him back. I mean it sounds stupid that I almost have to ask this. But how good is he because we all know? Are we see again? You see what's it like? Either play with him. Were coming against him even training. Do you have any moment where it's like? Wow this honest. What what they say about the about. Gillian is a Chums in training he looks like he's training with gates. You know the way he runs the way he he English how you say exactly but by the way he makes steps when when he's running and he leaves you he leaves you behind him and groups like We Are we are here skits on say same box running on an after an in football you can find some examples like key. The last year's like very years players that they they leave plays behind because they are so quick so strong but after when he's in front of the goalkeeper he has the capacity to stop to be cold. If you can say that and to score a lot of that's not the when you when you find the balance between the the speed. The strength on the columnist suit wish core goals in front of the the Goalkeeper. One of the people as well. Let's similar to Neymar gets a lot of about reputation on price and still is now here in England is Papa but like you said this matters a a world cup winner you know. He has proven how he can lead. How do you see him on his role still in Manchester United? Like you still think that we could definitely see the best of Pol Pot but in a united shirt. I haven't spoken with him for for for a long time and I don't know what he wants to do is true that the papers we can read that he wants to leave for much. Genetic are going to sell them or whatever but I don't. I don't really know what what he wants to do if he wants. The mutual during the role in terms of quality still has set in. I have already answered this question. A lot of thanks always say the same I have never seen a midfielder has all the qualities that you can have. He he can. He can recover votes than had the ball and scored goals. He can defend he can attack. He can do one against one is difficult to steal the ball from him because he's so strong and showed toll and you know bet did. He's true that since he came to the club he had some ups and downs but when he was good he really good amazing. It was a pleasure to to play with him so I think all the Manchester United fans they want to see The Best of both program for one year and I. I think that that can happen the next year so probably in the next year on with Bruno Fernandes players that really night with players that they are more adapted to the League. The team right now. I think Much thinking that they can do great things. The things that pick apollinarius Walk Matt. Joe's Franklin birth is with us as well. Jill's Louis Paul Paul per under rarer talking about how great he could be and how great he is seen him to be. Yeah obviously hasn't done it. Mantis united and a lot of people have cited the fact that Ed look at the players surrounding and yet we seem Brunette Fernandez. Come in and give this same an instant lift. Yes you're right. I'm not sure he'd comparison with with Bruno. Final days ride because when poked by rising the semi twenty sixteen years very good first few weeks as few games. That came out on the back of the euro's with France's where where you went all the way to the final very short holiday so of course there was some highs and we. We've seen him sue some really good performances but also allow lows and the injuries but no injuries. I don't think the environment was was really right for Manchester United. The changes of manager the player that he paid with as well a bit of a mess inside the club. And and it's a real shame because I think like under said he has the potential to be the best midfielder in the world. There's nothing they cannot do. On the football pitch has to be the environment for him to thrive as well as a football fan. We WanNA see players at their very best and watching Paul Popa. When he's pulsing failed is a great spectacle. But we just haven't seen it enough ever imagined. United Yeah you right down. I think there is. The frustration is understandable when you when you finish performances juice Eddie studied pretty well We say even more than that he well. He showed that it could be a leader but I think there is a lack of consistency in his in his game. He's a fantastic player. He showed you and he just at the beginning when he when he joined Manchester United but then the seems to be so many problems around him or run the club Ronnie Steam. As that in fact we don't see the popular we want to see. We'll all liquidity that. He has enough to lack of consistency. Where maybe the leader in the dressing room but it doesn't show that it can be a technical leader like Bruno Fernandez immediately showed to the crowd when he when he might just eight hundred. Meanwhile what an indictment is on Neymars career so far at PSE that a big headline from what Harare add to say was that he's happy now. It's an incredible soap opera that we've seen obviously a lot of media intensity regarding name are but a lot of it is being brought on himself. Joe's and the fact that this world record fee this player is now happy kind of says it all doesn't it says what about the sad story? You're right two and a half years more than two years after he joined a Paris and let's remember he wanted to leave or not to come to power the one who made the first step for that move to heartburn but picking is phone and calling us Ed Hawaii the PS chairman. So you're right. There's been a lot of issues when he arrived. I think obviously there with the two big injuries in in January February of his first season prevented him from playing in the key. Especially in the Champions League after after after Christmas but but also shoot and the lack of maturity die. Showed is great is happy again. This is something that we've heard before even before under era told us in interview and we reported here on the shoulder there was there was sort of a new new name. Our more happy name. I in pirates enjoying the city more. Join the club. His teammates with Tomas to hold as well the manager and that was great. We saw on the pictures. Well with the game against Bush dominant second-leg why I could do ninety to take you to the next level even to inspire the rest of the team to go even further for Paris. So are happy. Frank yes but I. I don't know if even the truth I mean. What do you expect from era? Do you think you're wrong? We say on P. Name always not happy. I think they're gonNA leave. Noise on. A good player is going to say. Nice things and maybe and sure. Well let's say surely through but we don't really care I don't care if Name is happy I WANNA show. I WANNA see showing maturity skills than what we expect from a big star fantastically that he can be and the rest. I don't care I really don't care. I been waiting for two more than two years to see the real name of the new model we before we saw in Barcelona's a killing Maine Montana in chimpanzee we wanna see and all the funds they want to see that the rest is pure well. Nice story but really don't care. Meanwhile frankly got some mention. Your t shirts obviously humble is ever. Franken this will renounce Harare talking about Kilian mbappe and extraordinary pace that he has. How would you fancy defending him? Well like Jim. I just tried to do with now on the t shirt with Renaldo. Make sure that the guy that can get the ball because after the football because after it's too late those players are so much scale and it was the real owner to play against Renaldo and we saw so many disaster that it is against defenders that the one day I played in final. I knew that that was the only things that I could do to to avoid scoring a goal and the same Imbaba. Those guy special like we just talked about name all gave the ball and they are on the on the Great Day. All great night they gonNA kill say we saw that for more than a decade with missy run. Ronaldo do this Renaldo Z. Dan and so many other players that you're defender if you want to cope with those players. That's the only we you can try to avoid them being fantastic. There's one man that could pull off that. See you frank thank you very much that boys just a reminder that fooling of you and Alexis is available as a special podcast which you can go and download now. It was a year ago to the day. That extraordinary comeback for Liverpool against the vast selena winning at Anfield by four goals to nil to book a place in the next round of the champions extraordinary comeback of course dominating the newspaper headlines and the next day Craig Stevie with US Stevie when it comes to European night's Anfield it's going to be near the top isn't it. Oh absolutely I think the only thing that would probably Taupe as the final on bill and offer drama and goals but because it's the final. The only thing in my opinion is separate these two these two games and and for one club to have to isolate. This history is absolutely incredible. I mean people will argue which one's the best. Personally I think is Dan is but my goodness this one at home against Barcelona's kicking upon soft and what makes more extraordinary Craig. Obviously there was no Solano phenomena. You had to redesign security out fronts yet still. I did yeah. We ended up You know discussing more. We're going to talk about around the League in the both the Liverpool and talk games. Were pretty much done and dusted you fall. And when you when you think team selection another team that was available and the team was playing against it made it all the more incredible can between things. Nothing was boscell imploded. There's not there's no doubt I mean this is just the basics and Liverpool were magnificent and they went for the jugular and they had everything they needed to do helped by a great crowd. Anfield on an up to brilliant Niagara Stevie. I think off coming back in a jump. He's league final begged of the two. But that was just another amazing unfilled. Let's not forget as well. The rhetoric coming from Barcelona was banging the drum. We learned a lesson for Roma. We won't let it happen again yet. They let it happen again. Stevie I think Liverpool for actually taken off them yes they defended horribly but I'm not sure what she's the rhetoric was well. We've learned the lesson won't happen again. This team must have realized that even though they beat Liverpool three nil and the fos leg home they play Liverpool the best site. You know you can. You can point the finger a Liverpool and see this being free nil down obviously a law. But he's don't emassy because that's who's Massey's night but a law that was done. Finishing from Liverpool Liverpool created Yvonne Season. Not False leg and for me. It wasn't so much. Barscelona that that pulled themselves through messy. Prove them through and Liverpool let themselves down in the Fox lag file finishing she'll Bassolino must have known that they were going on feel then. There's a good chance that we're going to lose again. And I thought I would win the game but biggest problem was willie start messy and we'll be stopped boss again because one goal is going to kill it. Do you know we're not enough. Thank you but this game done in the so many so many points the performance from Liverpool. That were magnificent Steve. You mentioned that the other day when we're talking was disabled Somalian deal Eliane which should remember which we shouldn't forget but the one thing that just whenever think this game rightly or wrongly? The one thing that springs to mind first thing comes to my mind is the corner kick the Trent Alexander calder. Cac for that goal because I think pets amazed amongst all the other great things love appeal that the performance of the two teams. That was the quick in the sharpness into quality of Liverpool and the downright sloppiness and lack of doing the basics from Barcelona. We saw senior players like PK. Bush catch all these guys with a box tummy play. Macabre kicked was coming in and the game where they were under the coach and losing an a boat to go out. I mean that was all forgivable and whenever a thinker but this game dot men of that moment of Alexander Ronald Putin the ball not quadrant as defendants springs demand. Craig mentioned say the lack of professionalism everything that surrounded this game yet valverde still kept his afterwards which is extremely as mentioned before. After having AS Roma's well the coach cars the con- The truth as will said well. He had to do better than his team up a lot. More defensively particularly in the second half to make some changes just a block. Evelyn Dome but the two thousand mile as they don't have players on the field or on the bench. Never mind just on that evening but right. No don't have defenders you know show off plus Alana reside who when the when the clicking going forward will destroy become but they can't defend and because Sony on being able to out with lights of Shakir he couldn't go out a reedy Robertson taken off a half time. Everyone was kind of. Get your get completely get your point. That defensively they took me who come on. Don't tell me who you know one way up. I suppose bash in my legs Zeevi. You're cost and not very go minutes. Get full you whatever happened. Boss were always vulnerable. You Don- you don't know what you're talking about. You've got players in defensive positions who cannot defend so. What do you think's going to happen when you can't defend? I'll tell you what the only way you get through it. As if you fall was a new. Massey's these other guys are putting the ball in the bucket at the other end because if you rely on players like peaky who's pasta. These bags admitted the defend. He's fantastic going forward. Big Can't defend Bush gets in the middle of the park. Who's who can't get around. You know what you've got three. The can't defend so whiz. Who is the defending coming from Dan? It's one thing to see. Well they should be able to guess. What have you thought of that can defend you? Bet Shoe you putting the ball in the other end. And he didn't do on the second game onfield and complete disarray. Because the in control nobody control. I tell you I tell you what one thing suppressed. Major compensation is the fact that the bookshelf behind you Steve. He's managed to stay in the wall because he's almost headbutting. Encounter them done getting very angry with you. But what's what's noticeable and no rumour has hatred for Spanish defenders hissing. Don's Dun Dun Dun Kalman is telling you that you know he's thinking well poised for Barcelona you know one of the best teams in the world. That could defend key. It's not a kiss. The so good goal forward generally don't have to defend the the one thing I'd say the show exactly that the can't do can't handle good players but pace the cottonwood movement. It can't handle the physicality I mean. There's there's another thing you know Liverpool for ninety minutes from start to finish what absolutely fly in. I mean you talk about a physical f you know players and settling did as a coach. I would say to my team right we. We need to get the blocks quake. But then they'll come a time but we can't just go for ninety minutes one hundred miles. 'cause you run a steam well this this. Liverpool team on this night absolutely crushed that thought because from the forest to the last minute they were on the percent or the goals when they got the goals is huge as well. You know when you get a goal and a foster admits again not files you on you goal L. in the second half assed stepping you. Stray you get equalizer. You've got the crowd behind you and then you get the fourth with ten minutes to go and the other thing you have to do is stay for another ten minutes. Use Your brains and defend and you saw what proper defenders do don live pill navigate. Anything a we are not I think it was twelve minutes to get through the never give them a snuff last defendant. That's why level who they are right now because tastic going forward but the fantastic defensively no every single one and Liverpool by four would host every single one and not for the boss Alona without even at a heartbeat defending as an entity. The complete team got through deservedly. Tell you what role race people say that. He's a lever here now sees they've tried to try to tell you the one thing one thing to go back to the defensive point the argument both of you guys were making there. There is no doubt the the do the basics particularly experience guys hide under pressure but the one memory and it's quite revenue from from that evening. I can't really remember the exact play as possessions but it was the middle of the Park Liverpool completely overrun Bacelona and the middle of the park. Too quick for them. You picked up every second ball and behind them. Too often not asked the question of the bus and about four which they weren't able to come up with the answer so the Medfield certainly Hale was already creaking. Liverpool completely smothered them in the middle apart. Not Give them total control of the game. Because stuff guys thank you very much. Maybe not as lively mocked talking to mark Donaldson. Augie was at that game about being that field. That brings us the end as well as being a busy old show. Thank you very much to everyone who is being on. Stay tuned for extra time Schachter. Trae join me to answer. Some of your tweets stay with us. Welcome into extra-time. Thank you as always for tweet. Shocker with me along with Cray cray what was the general feeling towards England born players playing for Scotland during your time with a under constant scrutiny to prove their nationalism no and there was a few my Elliott one new Sullivan. Another sure McCall laxed in the early days was brought up in England Rangers Strong Yorkshire accent but nobody. Nobody was multi-nation on the field. Sure McCall and gave as much as McCall Don Hutchinson an Scott Game Brought up in England because he's played nothing on forest amongst other clubs so ridiculous notion. None of the odds are coaching staff. Lead over where people were bald. Just say you know me and the wife of scores were all over. So do you think they would play for crank your kids if they if they played a national level? Scotland or England. Well I think my oldest where you think where he would consider themselves from. He said England. I would imagine I would imagine most would say affected choice they would say They feel they are their English. Much shocking to play for England under nineteen or something very young funded as a as an original twenty-three so athlete with England but never turned onto Vega. Obviously it was going to be a choice that never once once once I got that call you know the decision was made. As a matter of fact Kevin Keegan tried to name in the scored in ninety nine per the euro qualifiers. But I made my mind those permits and Trinidad to tune him. Don't Oh issued played in gold with a one year two thousand qualify global having only state of David Seaman soccer who's the best goalkeeper of the past decade through phone. Neue Defeo or Casillas Jabbour foreigner. I'm a huge family will talk my list. Every single time But but for me arguably best goalkeepers we've seen for some time as digital fun And I think everybody else pays in. Composite goes to Craig according to Wikipedia. Page junior sound swinney goals in just over sixty appearances very different than you'll Chelsea days. What made the difference. That's the actual not actually wrong. Because it wasn't like wikipedia is wasn't sixty appearances and it wasn't twenty goals scored fifteen goals. Fossey's not believe nine and mistaken and I can't remember because it was only halfway through so both of those figures are wrong unsurprisingly but one of the differences was that the I know I think. The insinuation here is Was Scottish football. The difference well that might be partly the case. But I think a big part of it for me was one plant. In my Nacho possession regular which was the middle of the part where I kinda was also the Roundell Ovarian Chelsea and put it on the right but secondly it was trained in a team the way I played in heaven poll next to main metal. We'll come back from Not Season and he was holding much. Friedlander allowed me to go and get in the fall season when we won the tasted like fifteen so I think that was a big difference that confidence and I was playing in a very good site on those play with some very good players and I think for me. That was the big difference. Shocker who was the most dedicated teammates getting better? That you have had to get better in a couple of boys. I'm Alan Shearer who I've seen kind of as we're back from countless horrific injuries other thing. I've seen anybody work as hard on the road to recovery. I'm not sure I'll say insurance woods hotted getting better. He was a complete strike over when he arrived at Newcastle. But he would up crop than and anybody at seen. I'm GonNa take it from me of a question is thinking about young players. Tried to improve. I'm I'm I'm not sure. Dwight's to Jones spent countless On and ground I. I don't think I'd look at those two in all honesty cray. Well some of the Italian boy like Gianluca. Yali an jumped broncos all up but the one that to the most one of them's goalkeeper was mark. Marcum the story and internationally God we. I've never seen anybody work his house. I've never seen a goalkeeper mart. Poom HE WAS. He was an in on the train and he was never. Gmt A point where the coaching staff used to tell the gentleman. Go home when we used to do the bleep tests which were measurement of fitness. It used to be only place. He was incredible but the guy that was was dedicated. As well Ravanelli Ravanelli Tuten has profession sore seriously and it was such a great professional. It was scary. And all those people all those moronic edits and I include some of the pundits that used to suggest Ravanelli was only here for the money of no idea what talking about because one he was a goalscorer and to the guy never had the day off fantastic professional soccer. Who you having vanished. Roy Obam Percy I'm Google van Pusey I just think maybe because he he's more complete I don't think I don't think he'd premium gas in a better job. The box finish than Than Than Missa Roy. But Sydney bound pretty see outside of the box. Maybe give you a little bit more than Mr Roy Craig. I think PHILLY FA cost one affiliate and Functional Vanessa Roy for me were just would just Edge and I think that's why even after that he's Chris just before he signed for united and ultimately to Ferguson vetoed. It for another year is still so keen to get the player that you went back after them. I think that tells you a story. Why doesn't Craig have any emotional connection to his former club like Stevie and Frank Dewey Liverpool and Chelsea? Because I've I do the memories of friends from the time they're on the hot gooden old clubs ultimately I think people struggle with less perception as that we have a job to do and that job is not to cozy up. And I'm not saying those two boys do but not for me and I can only talk me. My Job's not because y'all to form clubs in euro no done I've never. I've never ever my career broadcast and head defy A. That's the way I'm going to do so I have friends who still speak to people. Involved those clubs for me the same analysis on praise and criticism as every other club. And that's that's the way I'm always going to black and white. I'm not playing anymore. I don't know them and they told me. And it's quite simple really increased family as well. It doesn't it you take a look at some of your comments in the past isn't just clubs that you don't have low T. Which family as well. What sense explained not wanting you you you weren't holding back for criticism and George Burley for example when he was coach of Scotland nutrient him just like any other managing. Yeah thank shocked what you were talking about the message and the kids the dog. I don't see why well listen for less than jolts. Yes jaws bring my dad's brother and my uncle. Joe's new score when he took the international joyful Scotland and I knew the score on as a save the so many prophetic people out. There pundits that you want to try do you. Don't go to Scotland Manager. And he's he's having a tough time. Actually I didn't find that problematic and he didn't have an issue with it. To my knowledge he understood. I had a job to food on my job. Lice Scotland in his team selections and has has teams performances and there were objects at best. And that's why one of the reasons he got the sack so it really really wasn't an issue for me and I don't believe it was an issue for him. Let's at least these problems know says from me when you team performance on the field. You couldn't do that e- yet either do this job or you know. There's too many wishy washy people at the dollar and take the bulk and a half ass job united on you know last prices for Sheka looking forward to going back to the studio. You're looking forward to your next vacation. I have not missed the two hour drive into the studio as much as I have in the last six weeks Avenida Anita vacation from From staying home all five kids at four four hits a some Ellis has their own place in in central Boston. She can go back and forth to second DOOR IS BACK DOWN IN NORTH CAROLINA. Where she was finishing up she just graduated but just finish all her coup coursework to graduate. The youngest three have been here through show. Yeah it's been a full out. Thank you much to the chance when. Thank you Sackett Nike. Craig back tomorrow for more of this. Until that comply.

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Can Neymar Lead Brazil?

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40:14 min | 4 months ago

Can Neymar Lead Brazil?

"Hello welcome into Wednesday's edition of ESPN AFC ON ESPN. Plus on this show. We wouldn't expect it to be as explosive as it was Alexis. Nunez sat down with Former MANCHESTER UNITED DEFENDER. Now Leon Rafael. Who had some very strong things to say about resilient team mates Neymar Frank Leboeuf and Jimmy on the wrong with us to react to that. Meanwhile Craig Burley and Don Hutchinson talk about the potential news that Newcastle. Make if they take over does indeed go through shock his slot with us as well extra time plus. Mark Ogden reflects on seven years since Manchester United won the premier league title. We saw by taking a look. How different European Leagues are approaching the return of football after the CORONA VIRUS? Interesting stuff from the ducks in the sense that the the government said there will be no football until September I. This is what the doctor has to say in response to that. Well no professional football can be played even without an audience until September. I as a result the border professional football intends not to continue playing the two thousand nine Hundred Ninety Two thousand twenty league on Friday. The club's other parties involved will meet to discuss the consequences. Meanwhile in Switzerland slightly different with the resumption of play with ghost games obviously managed without spectators under scientific supervision and combined with the Risk Management Concept. Top football wants to send a signal as possible to return to something closer to normality as soon as possible. Now these things the only viable way to save Swiss professional football in its current form but at the same time complying with the requirements for the protection of players and the population meanwhile Sweden. This is interesting. The date we're working towards is June. The fourteenth ambition is to still play all the Games with fans at the stadium but Swedish. A link football off following the corona virus developments all the time in society as a whole on possible new directives from the authorities. Meanwhile we go from that to Brazil now seems winning their fifth World Cup and two thousand and they failed to make it back to even a final last four editions of the term today Alexis Nunez interviewed Rafael. Of course a Brazilian international formerly of Manchester United now with Leon an awesome audit will take to win the six World Cup and he said a lot depends on that talisman. We need name. That's what should we need the need a lot in. I need any to improve things like like I said outside. Beach is important for the with bullets so anything privileged outside the beach to to to come inside the beach in to do his best so I hope you can do that. Then the fee if he if he does have just Enemy when you look at last World Cup of course as well and and before you know he got injuries on stuff like that You could see how like you said on his best day. It's it's almost impossible for anyone to stop him. Do you think now that we're moving on. It will be four years and do you think he would have matured enough to be that leader. That Brazil needs. I think I think they might not leader. I don't think is this to him but I think he can he can. He can do the dating he does because like you said he's if he's good if he's like he focusing concentrate lease Ribaud. He's the best player in the world. I think not is is first option of life Today you know what I mean like. He if so many stuff founding so many things so he thinks he's my i. I don't need to do that is to play. Well I don't do you know what I mean so you need you need. You need to a lot of things you need to do and like you said like I said he does that's Someone input he disease. Mind because I know him. I play with him. Everyone Games with him. I have been in within. Anouilh's ahead guy to to listen when you speak. You know good with him now between not not I am saying that you're but he sometimes you don't want to say some people don't want to say don't don't listen to you say you are good. You are magic your they want you to say all the good stuff but the life is not like that and I think he needs to listen more and the that you'd be hard to stop Brazil explosive stuff then from it. Rafael hits the Discussing Franklin birth. But really we have to start with the number one fan of course at ten D to His birthday parties calls him. Nayna Julianne Laurent Jobs. What do you make those comments? Pretty strong stuff. I'm really convenience after South is a lovely guy and a good footballer. I'm not I'm not really sure I'm on board with them. The thing about. He's he's live on and off the pitch everybody's free to do maybe name. I would be a better PRI- maybe no passing as merge of defeat. Maybe I don't know maybe rough it will be a much better. Pray if he was going out more I. I'm not so sure an in some of the leadership I mean come on name is. Your best player is the best player appears. Jeez the best player from Brazil. He's your leader. Maybe he's not the biggest voice in the dressing room boat Zinzan. Saddam was an either and yet he was Francis leader. He warned the World Cup and Euro as France leader because he was the best player technically but the best player on the pitch for stop. It doesn't have. It's not because you have the biggest voice in address that you don't know leader that doesn't define you as a football player. If you're the best in your team then are forced your leader and you lead by example on the pitch by making you team win games. Why would he make this up though so I already come and say things like name? All contact criticism doesn't listen to people who got negative things that are trying to help him. I didn't have time before the show to check how many times they play together. I don't even move for a fellow play for Brazil but if if it holly with name how would he know that anywhere? Maybe he's the impression he has from the outsides of from why he's in Brazil from Brazil if you want and when the national team plays together anything's ideas on when he's faced Neymars well. He's done a few times since he moved to Franz but other no I think I think we ought vote right now at the moment and as a as a football is life and name on news up pretty well. It's better to others. Critism here also depends where the criticism comes from and how how is placed. But I don't I've never been told her. I've never seen name no being good with criticism. I think it actually on boards and moves on maybe quicker than others. I'm not I'm not really on board with what Rafael had to say. After say Frank. What do you make of it all very strange way of talking with a maybe possible? A another time teammate. With an for the national team. I think he's not appropriate. I can make creek because I not friend with because it's my job to to to say what I think a but I think you have to a little bit sometimes. Refrain of criticizing a friend of you. When you have the video may be to play. It makes no sense because as Jew says just drew said sorry you can be technical leader without being a leader itself. Did you did? A shot was a leader. He was talking long leader for the national team. They were talking. Both Zedong was a technical leader. And I think he's what has been asked to name all at first they don't care about him talking to the to the rest of the of the squad they won't be the best on the field to show the way to to success so. I don't agree with Raphael said. I think what just Rafael told us or tell us is that they're not friends. Otherwise would have another way. Were about Neymar. Yes you can say some stuff to your best friend. Yes you can say. Interesting may be on the pitch but not in front of the camera when you have the possibility to play with him. Another time it's interesting that you picked up the Brazilian angle on all of this and being married to a Brazilian. I'm exposed to a lot of resilient people within my life and it's fan fascinating to talk to them about Neymar. Everyone is negative about him. Every single person that I meet it seems who have got links with Brazil have got something negative to say about him and this is Rafael of course pouring fuel onto that. And why what is it with name? I why he's diving. It's about the money he's about. The party's about this that but you feel like renounced. But they seem to get a pass in Brazil compared to Neymar Gills. It fascinating the the treatment or the image has back home which can be easy for him to to deal with as well. Maybe because the expectations were so big. Su- shoots from a very young age when he was sixteen Santos Seventeen with the national team and etc etc. And it hasn't really happened for him in Brazil in the world. Cup Mostly Copa. America has been a bit different in the World Cup that maybe he's the one responsible for Brazil not achieving what they should have achieved curbs and then if you point the finger then you look at the tunnel because every everybody in Brazil knows how talented he is and and he's one of the best in the world potentially technically but may be pointing the finger has he's way of leaving those criticism from the Komo entry. The all of nothing. The commentary on Brazil for example. You could see already. How differently would maybe the privilege with the national team but also with PG and maybe some people don't like that and maybe that's why a lot of the criticism is aimed at him? And I are why he does is apply and the lack of achievement. Maybe that is with the national team but then he doesn't help himself does he. Frank with the rolling around with the shoe on his head with the celebrations with some of the words that he comes out with. Sometimes you feel that. Despite the fact he's mature on paper you know obviously in his twenties. Now you can still going to think he's still acts too much like a cane. Yeah that's what it is. That's the prime I think for many people. I remember as ninety six before the European Championship in England as at the position of leader and didn't philly filled up the the Phillips the position with these Games and has been a little bit criticized but we reach another level where we criticize the man. We restarted the way he behaves in and out of the field. I just wanted to talk about what he does on the field and there is a way of selfishness when you see him playing when he seem the way he behaves and I think it's what it is and it's what people dislike about about name. Your is that it doesn't go with the rest of the squad it doesn't fit may be what brilliant used to see with their stars. Renaldo Rivaldo that those guys were loved by death teammates. It's not the case name. All the talent is there for sure. Everybody it's obvious but a is not. It's more yeah again. A selfish guy playing fantastically world sometimes man not giving enough in terms of communication on and out the field to please the bridge even the Brazilians lawsuit on this usuals B.'s. Whether you like him or no I don't think he can be easy to be named and again having that kind of reputation and all those expectations since since the very young age and maybe not being ready for it and having that weight on your shoulders all those years with obviously the top of being the two thousand fourteen World Cup on home soil where you get the injury against Colombia. After that everything is a nightmare that you wish had been the biggest dream of your life and just don't think he could be easy right on and as you mentioned earlier as you know so well. Brazilians are quite hard to please. And Kwa hard to convince and Neymar could have been very different. Highly add more success with the national team earlier. Maybe a now he he. He has to digging and digging again and try to do between the end of his career to please the Brazilians who had so much expectations for him. He's never fulfilled. Brazilians are indeed hearts. Please I can attest to that. Thank you very much gentlemen. You can listen to that full interview by the way. Rafael Ovalles. On a special podcast. We put together him chained to Alexis Nunez about lots of things not only the Brazilian team but Manchester. United as well. You can listen to that. Podcast over on the website. A lot of talk about this. Saudi Arabian consortium taking over at Newcastle. As you detailing some of their plans zoo. Welcome in. Don't ask you sending Craig Burley to the show Donald. I want to start with you. Basically they're looking at players that will be on a free. The likes of Cavani Mertens. Pedro billion does this work in your opinion absolutely. Now you start to talk to the most disillusioned Newcastle Fan. Ever because all of a sudden now we all street dream and the likes of Tino all hundreds of millions of pounds going to be spent tech Newcastle back to where they were in knotty five ninety six so the geordies it is time absolutely over the moon. They just want to take up a to be done. And then hopefully Newcastle Start. Attracting the big players but pray. These are undoubtedly big name. Players plays around with contract for reason on. Well I think the Lacy Certainly Pedro in Eliane. What would be pleased that I think certainly really on jokes? He would want to keep certainly on short term contracts. I don't think whoever getting big name players to the northeast is problematic in itself. When I say that disrespectfully but you know London for for a long time. Became the hub Manchester attract blades but getting people to to go up to the northeast away from the bright lights of London in particular is always difficult not usually takes a lot of money. So it's not just finding these players done as trying to coax the meant to come into your project and Newcastle. Wherever as an offer the country itself can be difficult to get over the line. You'RE GONNA want people who are on the same page as well which could be tricky when you look at this list. Yeah same song. Be Craig's writing saying but take you back to ninety five ninety six when you cost the truck. People like Tina spree. Now that's totally different to the names that we mentioned in now wages will certainly help. And that's going to have to be a factor because he knows Craig said if we got on new custody of looking at Cavani and Pedroni William these guys can all go tops around euro. You GonNa have to offer these guys something completely different. And they're not going to sell you on a so a short term project when they can be linked with a big jobs around Europe Williams being linked Barcelona for the last year. And a half of the GonNa have to offer them something different and that would be a massive spike in wages then all of a sudden if these guys start to arrive then. I'm pretty sure and you've got top-class manager in like maximum reports. Tina who is attracting big name players in the short term as until three big wants huge names that can start pulling in the bedroom to premier league. Meanwhile with William Petro going the suggestions that Chelsea could be looking at casino to coming to replace. Sam Sanford Bridge Craig. What are you sound? Continue to Chelsea. Well I'm not sure that she's a Gore to be honest because he's not exactly the same position as those other two players Those guys play more in the white possession if gotta a handful of playmakers already albeit more natural white players but mason made a big impact in the short period of time after playing in the championship. Just twelve to eighteen months ago was able to get Philip. Continue and my squad would take him down. The answer is yes word. But he's going to come down to finance is going to come budget and it's going to come down to what front lampe. I'm these more event. We discuss this when it raised. Its head probably a month ago as what possessions? That front lamp really feel that. Need the most and first and foremost the front and then you might be looking at a half. I think if this deal can be done right price. That is potential chokes. Honestly I think Chelsea's programs are another possessions. Domoni think Craig really. I mean if you're if you're asking the big clubs Liverpool and Chelsea would you take a tenure in your squad of course you won't because he's a very talented player play that just needs an random and confidence at the same time I would love to sit down with Jody Morris? Who's a friend of mine and you guys know? I'm friends with frank as well and say well. Why aren't you offer Khruschev of this position? Because instead of scouring Europe for a number ten or someone that can play another flank. You've got one in Dole's you've got one in house already on the books at Chelsea invest a little bit more time with Christian Pulisic. I hear from the grapevine that he's a little bit shine a little bit quiet so maybe it's a chance majority unfor- franked trying to coax out in. May commit a team player making more demand on the pitch because if you all quiet and try it in your quite shy you. They're not going to give your best. That's inevitable so I'd like to know the reasons why at Chelsea do go for full junior acog imagine Christian put Eckstein around for a done. Let me just say since since this pandemic hasn't when Don's ability to have friends in the game let me let me just say I have no friends. I am the one with North so say bring balance to the show because I kind of let me ask you if you can one player of Christian. Puna SAY AW. Philip continue to go in and play Chelsea which will be well at the moment. Of course it will continue because he hasn't become embedded. We'll play it overnight. He's had a difficult twenty four months or so and there's not there's not a threat but there's a reason. Barcelona paid the one hundred fifty million dollars as for this guy. Because he's a talent on settling not dead yet so as I said if you can get right price and he can and up till in our problem but it could be a headache for those if this deal happens. I'm just not sure the the old folks we will be busting got to try and make up and bearing in other areas of the team. The distraction gentlemen. Thank you very much and it just started. Let's keep up to date with all the latest chance. You can go to our website and click on transfer tool time for the Anti Manchester United Segment. Of course a daily feature here on the show seven years to the day since they won the premier league title since then fifteen points. That's how they been winning the title. That was against last back in the day they have been appalling our to the title race consistently throughout Mark Alton Don Hutchison with me to discuss this. Don't it's incredible really how that gap how Chazan has been since Alex thanks and led to that title seven years ago? Yeah I mean it is crazy when you're talking about it besides the money and I still have to remind you that Liverpool Ghana thirty years before they're going to win the title so it can happen. Take you mind back in my memory of that. Two thousand twelve season when they won the league is Funky side or sides over the years before he was always doing rebuilds building the size of the team that quality in the squad whose invest in and. They always done a pretty good job in not last year when they won the title. He snatched Robin Van Percy from Austin because they lost the season before on goal difference so it was all emotional. -mergency fix a very quick fix. And then Fergie left and David Moyes come in and obviously we know the stories from there and it just felt a looking at united scored. It was it was deteriorating. Not Badly but it was just ebbing away from how good they were. The classic you too was just starting to fade people. Like Paul's only played a handful of games. The same as Ryan Giggs and they needed an injection of quality. Won't stay moist comforted all. Unfortunately he started looking at people. Like Leighton Baines marijuana fillet instead of looking at the very very top players that it should've been getting when I left so it's also spiraled into a huge decline and I think only this season and towards the end of the season under Ali. I'm seeing address me and that's far more harmonious. It's a lot more together it's younger. It's got a lot more hunger. It's got more desire soon. The big names have gone to in my opinion. That should still go can see signs now but it's been an awful long time since the success of these days. What's I think interesting in? This case is the fact that when you look at big teams who kind of struggled like Milan for example. They just didn't have the funds to compete with the big size. That's never been the Case Majesty. United the funds of always been there. They have spent the money. It's where they spent. That has really left them in this whole too much money. Because the money's always been used as a kind of a catch solution so rather than do what? Liverpool did four or five years ago and decided to go for plays point to prove value. Plays The for instance familial seller and the Robertson types. That little Johnson. United never really had to do that. They've always had the money to go out and Buy Angle de Maria or a poll or Melnikov because they don't really have to try as hard as as being smart in the market. Just just do what they you know. They shouldn't have a good scary network so the money has probably been healed but one thing I think is being overlooked times. That started before he left. They started in twenty ten twenty eleven when he started planning for. The future. Broaden the likes of Phil Jones Chris. Molding Actually Young. Have your hand. Underplays the serve United K. But not the caliber. The place that you brought in the real Ferdinando Village Patrice covers. The quality started to decline in the folks and because modern cities tie spending big money united thought that they could do a different way. Time has proved the united runway sits. You had the volume. Despite spending lots of money mount we know don is an optimization calling that thing on his face and Moustache at the moment. It's a bit of objects Jesse Nuys. I understand the excitement given what they've done on the paycheck over the last couple of months. But is this all really Mirage? With regards to the big picture it is to sell shows too. I remember ended young. They lost to Hunter Burnley Strategy Game at Liverpool whether they lost in in kind of abject fashion and the funds turning the glaze is the owners and it was quite moody time now they went to trump even the FAA companies had lost. It would have been it. Could've been curtains for all associated Bruno Fernandes came in and they win every so they hadn't lost a Fernandez and the same so Fernandez's coincided with the term but it's only seven or eight gauge is too early and I think you talked about half off. Well some say that. Today's a six year anniversary since David. Moyes was sacked rather than talk about the seven year anniversary since the title wind. So the fuel ups and downs. And it depends how you look at it but I do think that it is to set. It's awesome to call. It needs a lot more than nine games to prove that. Not your man of the people. Obviously when he speaks united fans you give them one wish one thing to change at the club. They demand they want new. Onus the one glazes gone and they want New Orleans then sometimes it's better the devil you know because at least the glazer put money in they have overseen. That's one things but they think that the owners in tandem with the chief execs haven't done the right things but you know maybe we're seeing signs of promise that allow the tunnel so the hops the got it right in the end but that is the one thing they say is the lasers for many reasons book rather than on the pitch off the pitch finally told me Danny Higginbotham on obviously a staunch man united fans Adler owning two or three proper signings away from being title contenders next season. Where do you stand on that? I'm not sure it's two or three. I think it's a lot more I think. Two or three to probably try and cement much buck into chump is leaks ought trying to get closer to Liverpool on Man City in my opinions are very tough asking. The united fans are GonNa have to be patient. And they're gonNA have to be patient in all you're gonNA solve Shaw. He might not be the man that takes it back to its. I'll he might not lift the major owners on the munchies night but what he's doing is building a very young squad hungry score back and get them very very close sit suggest in my opinion not threes the number to get them to a title. I think because other said Liverpool will be spending big money when they return in the summer. So we'LL PEP GUARDIOLA's mind city so they already streets ahead web manual but in my opinion. I think they got in the right direction. Thanks very much sense. Just remind him out the deep dive where it's gone wrong for Manchester United over the last two years. This is published a few months ago. The points very relevant You can check out that article over on the website. Espn AFC back on your screen. Samara former German international friedrich will be joining us. I be sure to tune in but that is for today's stay tune though. His horrible mustache returns as the shocker. And his new allegiance new council. Extra time is next. Welcome to this extra time. Don Hutchison and his terrible massage with us as is shocking. Saw by the way by the way shocker has older that new car so whatever it as off Ebay. He thought he plays. You supports her. Kinda make a comeback. I'm available bet you that you are the first questions about Newcastle which manages should they sign Rafa Benitez Potency Know Allegra or five don? Wow good question Lucian my my ideal manager I think would be. I think maximum agrees destined for big things. I'm not sure he would set a new customer project but Pocchettino went to Newcastle. He would be a door. Like you wouldn't believe shock heslop Kevin Keegan. I agree with it will be nice but I agree with Don Portugal as a manager who who knows English football in the Premier League. I think he would be the easiest and also has some experience and building what was team on on a no exhaust a limited budget. Which by all accounts won't be new customers problem but he's Sydney soon that he can now build a team from the ground up. I think I think that the food the best fit next question is about Oh west time. Let's don't forget don predicted the West. I would finish above lester hunting. That was back in November. That's well West time discuss that. So the question says done now. I'm GonNa take predict with good. Push seeks a thought. They thought that be about Evan and wolves. Obviously I was way on not one but didn't see the disaster happening Pellegrini thought he would tell them very close. A thought was just steady hand. I did not see a lot of his players. Fallen out before so real problems. I think this is all about staying in the primitive if they do that. That hopefully could rebuild the summer. Listen I think everyone's in the same boat in the permanent. No one knows what's really going to happen to with the transplant market in the some of this has been a bad year for Western. What's worse West Ham or your mustache won't westbound with a potential joke out. Not Mustaches. Right in IT GIVE. Luik game a judge here. You picked your shopping. Let's face it when it comes when it comes to facial head shock. You're pretty much national league to be honest so you can talk about what you're talking about right. Good question this. Who is the best view on English striker in that Prime Alan Shera Gary Lineker or Michael Owen? I I remember a young Michael teams that he's early twenties and he was unplayable Linda different classes era leads towards Allen share and it might be Newcastle. Think Jodi bias brought just as an all round number nine. I think all of these attributes it was physically very strong central. He wouldn't wanNA play against him. Fantastic via spurs which is very good. He's linked play was good number of goals out of this. Well I think I would share in that frame. I suppose the key where I think Mike allowing when he was nineteen. My goodness gracious me. He was sensational. Let's not forget a couple years later when the door for his property with one thousand nine hundred. I'm the Millington definitely. Definitely if you listen to in nineteen twenty and it was all downhill from there from twenty on the hill from the low inside down. Peaked nineteen okay. Whatever I'm going. There's no bias to adult Allen Shiro all the everyday I think he had every single attribute going and whereas you might be able to criticize With with Lynn occur and and I share. I don't think she had any info stood shorts and he said you will see focused on. What was that wins phones just to show you like Michael. Owen is a short mom thing. Short guys stick together. That's why you hate messy shy foot. Four something qualify. The first part of this question has shown team and I cannot get messy. I don't hit messy. Let's just go back right there right. Kerryon delays really bad. If you just have that reject registered how shocking ever being chipped. Yes is the answer is that also. What's the best go? The you've seen shocker trip goal obscene Philip against British Michael One. Because of who wasn't Peter Schmeichel and then second game. It's I mean. The the the goal was was simply unbelievable. I think it was easy. Fifth of five against minute James's park. That was easily the best trip. I've I've seen not messy obviously been meanwhile don best chip go. You've ever seen I mean look to say Al Newcastle Fun Boo soon as you ask the question. Eric Hampton all against some. Lynn came to mind the Old Trafford when he just had the ball on the edge of the fall. Then he should ship the goalkeeper than a stick in the stanchion. It was like and he just stood an old trafford. You just saw said yet. Whatever callers so arrogant so content off well I think. Albay is very very close. This is a great question for you. Ready for this previously. Does Don Liking himself today. is only fair. Stevie Cheese Battalion. Chief is a little bit. Tom Davies me well. He likes to talk and he likes to sue people from China. Think someone with a little tiny bit flare. It's up to you know. Just go out and live on Saito Davies because I call I call upon star amalgamate into place to hear about Shaq Fu. Somebody's got a little bit flat. I was checking trades. Most flare likes attack. Ochre score goals. Yeah I think the first thing that comes to mind on bond with number ten on me back. It was all about flare. Don't don't get ready shot. This is complicated. Focus when the opposition has kate. What goes through your mind. Do you do research on the opposition's free kick takers like penalties. Well no because you're not quite show the freekick is gonNA come from. So it's it's a different skill. Set as far as I was when I was approaching free-kicks good free-kicks with school. I just wouldn't allow Montana was not allowed free. Kicks it to go in to tried to get a wall right and positioning right? And I'm not cheap and they're to be saved that saved everyone's well you just have to your hands up. Chuck. Here's one for you. Because I remember after the or discussion with David James West Palm for hours and hours and hours after right session and boy you shock. You must be six five six. Six good. Reach one goalkeepers have no wool. She got plenty topsy the free kick but then stand in the middle of your goal and you can go three or four yards left. You can go three or four yards right. Why do you give us son which meant the era? I actually tried something similar and practice games and it's difficult to cover that yards man. It seems even from from a free kick and when somebody can construct the boilers as they want without any kind of interruption even during the course of a game you have defenders than play who normally take off. You know half the goal or whatever it is. I'm not makes it easier or seem easier than than than it actually is not as straightforward as. You'd think. Well you cover ordinarily you can. You should be able to do that. From a freekick from from Asia is far more difficult now because they keep up. I'm getting reincarnated as a goalkeeper plan to keep it up but could then go World Cup your favorite World Cup team time. Gentlemen Don oh I mean. I think the best will cups in my time watching as a kid. Spain I E to Mexico six. Natalia Ninety swallowed the Brazilian side of eighty-two with socrates and Falco Ada in Zico Dot Com. They was prophesied turnout. Tobago two thousand six easily best team to agree with. You woke up stage but does nothing team. In Brazil Cayman attitude regarded as the best team to have not won the cup. You can see why why that team was but for that stumble against Italy. Gobble probably the front. I thought that was one of the best teams. I'd seen plead at that level team or was simply unbelievable. Everything about it final question for you if you do a power rankings on which FC crew members are holding up best during the quarantine. Well don't be looking at that mustache up up up near the probably have craig because he's being alone and talking to nobody Glorious he plays golf he's he's fine being ostracized from the rest of humanity. Sure seems to be doing quite well. He's losing weight. I haven't seen God for a few days. I'm good question. Call high years probably just off the bottom of the aforementioned mustache. Oh you do it. I huge hail constraints kicks. I am here. I've not certainly nowhere near the top man. That's my six year old. He's making sure of that. That that rainbow kick done a bit concerned. I tell you what it tastes. Great though it takes it really good although he couldn't really tastes worse than it. Look yeah well. I think that is a good point to end. Thank you very much gentlemen. Thanks shack thanks to keep your tweets coming in ESPN NFC. We'll be back here tomorrow for more what moment it's goodbye.

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Caught Offside: "Tremendous Character" returns to the EPL

Caught Offside

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Caught Offside: "Tremendous Character" returns to the EPL

"Caught offside with Edry gumming and J J D Benny. Off-side from the Upper West side, Manhattan, anti gun Ling, J J Advani. What's up in pretty good tiring? Dave soccer. I both. Yeah. I know mid week action. Very busy, lots of EPL to discuss Barcelona have advanced to the COPA del Rey. Final after defeating Real Madrid. We earn abou-. Yes. Which we will talk about in in mere moments. This is a very very busy day of podcasting. Of course, you've got this podcast that you're listening to right now. Plus, we implore you to listen to the other podcasts that we have out today in which we preview the upcoming MLS season. But there's also more there's a special treat at the end of that podcast. You know, how like in the green day Dookie album listen to a whole album. Maybe you don't pay attention to what you're doing. And you think it's over. And then like a few minutes later there's that secret track. That's what happens kind of on our endless preview copy with the days of nineteen Ninety-six. Tracks Khazal was leave track. Thirteen play all the way through that was the rule. I know because you'll listen to the preview, and then they'll be like, oh my God. Wait a minute. Landon. Donovan is now on the show. That's right. So make sure you download that other podcast. We've got a great really extensive interview with Landon Donovan where we touch on real what he's doing now in Rena soccer league and ASL his relationship with your cleanse men. His thoughts on Christian pulic worries. Yeah. About the domestic game. Yeah. So it's really honestly it's worth checking out. It's it's pretty interesting stuff. So he was so generous with his time. It's I'll tell you. I really enjoyed this. One of the best interviews we've done in a while. They are said, wow. Strong trying to think of what else would be on that list. Deanne very Adlon from two thousand fourteen Bruce Arena. Bruce Arena was good. But mainly we. Well, the feedback wasn't. Anyway. Anyway, anyway, yes. So check that out. It's not just an MLS preview. It's also a conversation with Landon. Donovan it's pretty cool big chunk of Americana. Yeah. It really is. Let's get into this podcast now, my friend. We will talk about the games just a few moments because there's a lot to dive into but we did want to start with the COPA. Del rey. Second leg semifinal classical rail Madrid Barcelona at the burn Abou it's one one on aggregate going back and then bang bang, bang, three goals in the second half for Barsa, and they are through to the final in a game. They could easily have lost in the first half alone. A there was a couple of half chances for Barcelona. But when you wake up against Vinicius and Benziman's scuffed shot and the heroine of terse Dagan at times that could have been over at halftime if you're Real Madrid. You certainly you feel hard done probably to have lost. You certainly feel hard done to have lost by that scoreline to have not scored a goal. They played well enough to score a goal. Yes. Certain there you can maybe talk about suspect finishing at times. But three nil is really really harsh. If you didn't see that game. And you just saw that scoreline think Barcelona go to the burn abou- again and dominate row Madrid. Wasn't it wasn't like that fourteen shots for Real Madrid? Four on target Barcelona had four shots to on target two goals on an orgy. Yeah. And the oh, gee, it wasn't a it wasn't an egregious one. Or as was I it was a good ball from use Mme belly across the the box and swears streaking and he's gonna score. But Veron happens as a last-ditch lunch gets his leg to it. But happens to knock it in. If he doesn't do that Suarez scores the goal. Anyway. Look, I don't wanna make it sound like Barcelona weren't deserving. It's not an easy thing to go into the burner bowel and come away three. No winners. They were clinical. Yeah. They were they were clinical. Look they played a little bit more on the counter-attack and let Real Madrid kind of control the run of play and Real Madrid could not finish. Some of it was down to like we said poor finishing some was down to goalkeeping or defending from Barcelona. But it's that's this is now like a weird stretch for Real Madrid in which they had worked their way back into the title conversation in LA Liga, only to kinda get smacked back down to earth over the last couple of weeks in Barcelona re-extend their lead. So now, they've got this COPA. Del Rey against Barcelona. One one at the new camp, which is a good result for row Madrid heading back home smack back down to earth again by Barcelona, and that's really been the case for them. There's a little bit of own edge going on here with Barsha over real Barcelona won four of their last five visits to the burn bell. And if you remember in their more recent matchups against them three nil at the near the end of last season five one earlier this season four one now on aggregate in the semi final. I know row Madrid obviously have those champions leagues to fall back. On. But in terms of domestic success. This is this still appears to be Barcelona's league. And then there was the ghost at the feast right at the back of the rail Madrid dugout in the shadows with a scowl and a lower on was through Gareth bale. Poor guy. There was a lot of shots that pan to the dugout to look at him. And. Did not look how shall we? Put it. Happy did not look engage with his team mates. I mean Marcella was in a conversation constantly with who was it was beside him was at a sensible risk. I know whoever was beside him on the bench and bail was just behind them the doesn't fit in. He doesn't senior gov. The Hanno if it's by his own doing. I don't know if it's just I don't know. I'm not in that dressing room who it's not really on us to say why that's the case. But it feels like it's over. No there for him. They still have there's still a lot more important soccer to be played. So I don't like he's he still a valuable member of that club a hoop. I dunno. I hope it if it affects his performance for them. And I'm not implying that it does. But that's just so weak to me if that if you feel like that that is a thing that is beginning to occur. I don't know. I don't know they need like I hope they figure it out at least for the remainder of the season with the idea was when Rinaldo left we thought now now bail comes to the fore now this is GARRETT'S team. But I suppose we thought that about a few other players that are in in the side on has been the case. I I'll tell you what I would find it very hard to to grade Santi salary right now. You know, it's hard to know what kind of job he's done in one way. He's brought them back like you said into some kind of relevance in in the title race. And then on the other hand. Kind of being smackdown. Again, we're times at the Burnaby. Well, we'll see what they go on to do in the rest of European play. By the way, it's worth noting Juarez headed delicious penalty, which I think you once attempted here in this very studio. People's favorite drops. Moment of true madness. Yeah. He needed that two goals today. Three in his last two games for Barcelona after we have been talking about the drought that he was going through. So he is certainly back in the in the scoresheet for them one player. I want to talk about on the Real Madrid side of things who's been kind of gaining some notoriety lately, and that is Venecia's who you mentioned earlier eighteen year old Brazilian who I'll be honest you. And I just sat here and watched the same roughly eleven minute highlight package from that match. And it's just I don't know. I say this is one of those where it's amazing how people can watch the same thing and walk away like in baseball. If a guy goes up to the plate and goes oh for four like, no one is looking at that. Really? And saying oh, but he played a really good game. Right. Yeah. Like ambassador three for fifteen from the field. No one's like that. Is what it is. But like soccer. There's just there's so much more ambiguity. Right. When you go on Twitter, and you see what people say, I it's it's like, there's no ambiguity. But. I watched Venecia's in that game. And I thought oh there he goes again. Oh my God. He should have to assist right now. If Benza could finish the one, and I forget who it was that missed on the header he was involved in everything felt like for Real Madrid. Sure, his finishing could probably use some work, but for an eighteen year old to be controlling play. Like that against Barcelona's defense men. I walked away pretty impressed. You though, you are the more cynical harder than everyone know JJ. I see the world different. Oh, no, no. You're not allowed do that. Now because that was off air and people weren't privy to make their own judgments on my demeanor. I just had the temerity to suggest there was a couple of chances. I felt he could have done better on Dr dismissive of his hyper four, I wasn't all I said was there's a lot of hype about him. He looks technically very very good. He looks like an intelligent player. He looks physically strong to as well for an eighteen year old. And all I said was I'm not quite sure everyone is with the hype around. That's all I said, you didn't say that. You were you were you stood here by impressed with what you saw. No. I had the temerity one of the shots. You correctly corrected me on it. You said, oh, well, you know, that ball was a little bit behind him when he tried to dig out the chance on all you just retorted that I said he could have adjusted his feet a little bit quicker like it's gonna leave and come back that he had and then was able to get the shot off which was deflected wide. Like I said, but there was another one. Louisville's back if he ends this game with two assists. What are we all saying? All right. Okay. What's he supposed to do about? Other guys finished just let's move on. Because you're just trying. You're trying to narrative surrounding me that I'm a smug unctuous gate, and it's not true. You've decided that for everyone. I see. Right. So it was Barcelona who go on they advanced to the final they will defend their crown once more awaiting the winner of Valencia row petits. So we will see how that second plays out semifinal is on Thursday, the aggregate on that one to to as they believe a lens is it at Valencia for the this upcoming like, I don't know. Well, yes, it is. There's a three o'clock. Let's see JJ the mid week EPL action is now in the book. Let's start with Wednesday's games. And let's start at the bridge where Chelsea defeat Tottenham, two nil. While I'm gonna let you lead on this one as I didn't watch this one. Well, but I saw the highlights okay. Yeah. This season is just turning out to be such a weird one for Tottenham in that. They're they're peaks and valleys. I I know that's a normal Spurs season peaks valleys really that's kind of a normal season for any club. If I don't know maybe it's just me because I'm a fan, but it feels like their peaks and valleys are even more pronounced this year than in past years. The stretch earlier in the season when they lost three in a row. Remember, everyone act like the wheels were coming off their Champions League campaign after the way it started. Harry's groups day everybody thought it was over with. And then these this incredible like second act that they were able to produce where they advance in the champions. They get the result at Barcelona. They push themselves in in league play back into contention to actually maybe win a title ethics Cup or League Cup. They advanced with semi final. And then once again, it's all the same store they lose to Chelsea in that League Cup semi final. Now here they are in the league. You know, they already have one north London Darby defeat under their belts, which is crippling for for spur support. They lose to Burnley over the weekend. Right. When you think they're back in the title hunt. Maybe they can salvage that because Liverpool couldn't really capitalize in their match. Now. And then Tottenham come back out mid week lose to Chelsea nave. Now played everyone else United Chelsea arsenal. Back into the conversation about top four status. You know? That's no longer a certainty for Spurs unless Spurs can do something in the weekend. You're right. And that's what I'm saying. We can say all that. Like that's why I don't wanna get too down on them. Because I said last week the title like, it's the title challenge is over for me. So I'm not going to get caught up and cry about you know, that no longer being a possibility I've accepted that. And I've also accepted that you know, with all these valleys the Tottenham have been in this season peaks have not been that far off. So if they know they've got arsenal at home this weekend and the next week. They've got Bruce Dortmund with three goal advantage in the Champions League. So when we're doing this podcast this time next week. How ridiculous will have sounded if I sat here and cried and cried and wind and yelled about Spurs. How bad they are. And maybe I'll do that on next week's podcast if disasters occur in both of those games. But like this today is about a furthering of them no longer being a part of a title challenge that I had ruled them out of a while ago. So yeah, it was an ugly performance on the heels of another ugly performance on the heels of an ugly performance against LeicesteR that they won before that and Newcastle that they won before that. So they're in some kind of weird stretch right now, you know, maybe some of this is deli alley still being hurt. Other things are things that are hard to explain like, you're in trippy as backpass to Hugo lary snatch was horrified. The way that can happen to the best Ken, and I'm not necessarily making an indictment on trip as a player, but it happened today when he wanted to not mention that it was a horrible moment for them that ended this game affectively. I don't know the thing that bothers me most like as a Tottenham fan you're supposed to hate arsenal. Like, it's ingrained in you hate arsenal hate arsenal hate arsenal. And that's fine. But I don't know like. Chelsea are my New York Giants like as a Philadelphia Eagles fan. It's ingrained in you. Cowboys hate the Cowboys hate the Cowboys hate the Cowboys. And I do, but it's always the giants that seem to piss me off more that like if there's a fight that's going to happen. It's with the giants that is Chelsea for me. I feel like there's these matches between Tottenham and Chelsea they're always contentious. They always seem to come in big moments. You know, we've talked about the FA cups and and League Cup semi finals and finals that they play against Chelsea fifteen sixteen season as well. When when who who was the official that said, he was just going to let Spurs implode on their own the battle of the bridge. Right. I yeah. I don't know. They are like, I know. Yeah. I don't like arsenal. And all that. But Chelsea are really the team that like that. I just can't stand the sight of make me sick. Yeah. And there's also another element where you know, the board of Chelsea half to issue statement before the game twenty four hours before the game for fans to please behave themselves. There's that element. That naturally makes you dislike a certain. Sections of the Chelsea support. Yeah. I do not even what I'm really talking about. But you're right. I guess all that plays into it. No. And there's also the other men to that Spurs. I won't say they feel usurped but out of nowhere in the middle of the two thousands. When Spurs seemed to be coming and turning themselves around under Martin y'all and certainly the leadership at the club had changed ownership was definitely in a better place. And right in the middle of that Chelsea get all this money, all this distorting money that pushes them right to the top of the primarily against suddenly spars who have waited forty plus years to be back in the tight conversation see themselves usurped by the money man in the new money of Chelsea. And that's never sat. Right. Yes. Birth and like Mona ever moments along the way, you know, Tottenham now have had say an easier time, but they're now qualifying for the Champions League with some regularity. That was not never. I was not the case. No and. The year when they finished fourth and Chelsea have a miserable season did Chelsea go out. And do they win the champions the against Byron Munich and rules were then changed after that? But not in time to screw Tottenham. I don't have just always had this thing with Chelsea. They just they're just club. The bothers this plenty Spurs funds for you that way. Yeah. Of course, speaking of Chelsea Murcia. Sorry. I thought made the right move today in keeping kep a on the bench. Yeah. He you've got to feel oh he's slightly contradicted himself from the weekend. Well, that's his right to do. No. I I agree with him. And he said it was a message to the to the players that it's not twenty five individuals on what we know what he means by that. You are not self Thomas. You do not get to do your own thing. We all work as a unit, and you could see on full-time the way he thrust his fist turn around towards the tonal did not shake hands with anyone just got down that tunnel. It was a cathartic moment on a moment in which. He's closing the door and say what you like about the situation that may be keeping him in his job longer than most Chelsea Chelsea managers would have got in a similar scenario. He is he is he is serving you can't say anything else. You know, what this this situation with Capela reminded me of your a big viewer of the Steve Carell office. Right. We talk about the all the time. Dinna? No guano. Oh, I'm not. I'm not obsessive about it. I'm huge office guy. But it's the UK all the way as I'm watching today that he's not in the team sheet and sorry is is keeping him bench for this game. After like, you say he's kind of contradicted himself. We thought that like, oh, it's misunderstand thought the Arab been cleared. There's an episode of the office where Dwight betrays Michael goes behind his back tries to get him removed as regional manager. So twice can take over and Michael Steve Carell uncovers this plot and and plays Dwight for the rest of the episode. And then at the end reveals white I knew about everything tell me why. I shouldn't fire you he makes a huge scene in the office white gets down on his knees. And he's crying. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And you think something bad's going to happen? And then Michael hasn't stand up. And this is when everybody was obsessed with with entourage. And Michael said, no, we can hug it out. And you think okay, we they hug it out. And then after that Michael says turns out I was actually not okay with just quite yet. Entwined his standing up on a desk with. Bag over his head that just says liar. With a sign around. That's how I felt like sorry. He just wasn't quite there yet. Like, we thought maybe they it's moved it over. But no he needed to make one more statement. Well, he certainly not giving in you know, I mean he could made life easy for himself play Kappa and see this thing to its conclusion because he he it certainly felt in extra time on Sunday that he was a Dead Man Walking. He would not make this week out. But he has that's a big win against a London rival and on we go. Yeah. Let's say we move on jayjay Liverpool. Five watt for nil. Yeah. Just from the beginning. One of the first bowls backed Ben foster an out of midfield comes haring, gyms Milner, who blocks it in the box. Now it spins up in the air instead of into the Nash. But it was a statement of intent you at Robertson bombing down one side you had Trent Alexander Arnold tormenting Wofford on on the on the other side, and then you had a midfield. It was pressing. You had Siler Waterford or soul afraid of salad from last year onc- would slam into the box. They all stood off. They want nothing to do with it. You decrea- even got on the scoresheet. Because of that reason Wofford are petrified of Liverpool. Trying to go pass them or giving away penalties or whatever it was alterly- convincing. It was a complete. It makes you wonder about the, you know, we often talk about the the moosh in the middle of the Premier League from like number six down that Wofford were the form team. And couldn't come into Anfield dismantled in that in that fashion wound. What javale grassy thinks of of that and on how it came about. Maybe he's going to have to tweak things, but he's probably happy to leave. Their boy saudi-omani is such a weird player. I was trying to think of like who he reminds me of he's almost this is kind of unfair to him. But I sometimes think of like Nick young in the NBA just kinda like. Saudi-omani so much better than that. There's like a Radic nature to him. Like, oh, these games were he'll just missed chance after chance after chance even today. Like the second goal that he scored his first touch just totally down. And then it's like, well, let me just back backheel then from eight yards out the purchase. He got on the backheeled suggests that he's done this before enshrining, it was it was absolutely excellent. But if you if you just look at the stats in terms of the kind of domination a giver put nineteen shots that is that's man city shot territory scoring five goals. Yeah. Ten shots on target. So now listen to few shaky moments, but Virgil Van Dyke popped over two headers from set-pieces. They were overly dominant on Nacho. How much you can take from an except that the pressing and the verb. Verve and the energy was there, even though for menial wasn't there to link it all together. So very a bit of a statement victory over Paul. It was needed. It was absolutely needed to. On on a night when Manchester City could just scrape past West Ham. It was good that Liverpool put five. Oh. Yeah. One Nell city do get past west hand a second half penalty for Sergio. We're saying was dubious, I don't know it was given anywhere on as I am the man who will not countenance the idea of our I will not be hoisted by my own petard. And I will just say that that was fine. And I'm okay with it. Okay. People were I saw not to go down the road again. No, please. Okay. No go on go while I was gonna say after the the West Ham game. We never talked about the goal that teacher Reto short handled it into the net. Yeah. I saw in dark tweeting. So this is what the anti VAR people want a games being decided by penalty appended into the net. It's a fairly non common issue though. You know, someone had dark. Yeah. Just the message. I hear you by the way, they had an hour Fulham to get back into the game. That was the equalizer not the winner. So. Oh, so it's okay. I'm just saying that the places you'll go is sad. It is. Let's see Crystal Palace and Manchester United three one United Rome. Lulu Kaku scoring twice for United. Maybe refunding his form a little bit. His first goal was just to remind people that it's it's not just kind of the physical attributes this player has he's so quick with his feet Michel shelf the ball lovely cards it into the bottom corner. Put the second goal was really good because the ball is bouncing away from gold, and he hooks his foot around it. It's a breaking ball in the box essentially involves at home. It's brilliant gold. A couple of things stood out to me from this one one that Marcus rash furred was not only on the bench. But actually did come on as a substitute in the seventy seven th minute, which seems absolutely mad, but very odd. You have very odd considering we were told that his ankles swollen up like a watermelon. I mean. It was clear that he may. He may have been not as hurt as we thought day. Oh, you know, what a bad sprain is like our if you turn on your because you can be Aw. And for like a day day and a half. It can be terrible. Then all of a sudden you're shocked ho quicky recovered, and it was to the final was three one. It was two when when he came on. So the game was still a little bit in doubt. And but yeah, I was very surprised by that the other thing that stood out to me with this which you kind of forget about Manchester United there. There is a level of depth to them that sometimes we downplay like all we've heard about over the past several days all these injuries. How will they ever get on? And then I look at the lineup, and it's like, okay. Well, so Fred will start instead like, and like I say what you want about Alexis Sanchez. But as a spot starter you could do worse than a player like him. Can I say he's earning three hundred and fifty thousand a week basic? Yeah. You know, I know maybe Mattamy may not be first choice or Dalo may not be first choice. In that position. Yes, they have debt. They have spent almost half a billion. Yeah. One player. I also want to give a little bit of a shoutout to is Luke Shaw because he was so maligned under Marino, he was like Marino's Whitman boy on van Hal. Yeah. But he's rounding into a nice player. He was really good. I thought in controlling Sala over the weekend against Liverpool. And then again today like his moves going forward. We're really good help set up the one Lukaku goal. So I don't know. Maybe there's the player that Manchester United thought they were getting maybe it's been delayed by a few years. But maybe he is finally starting to come around. And we shouldn't forget that. He had that leg break against piss feeling Tova n-. Yeah. The Champions League that put him up for a long longtime. He had struggled with his weight. But when you see the way he's playing now and how consistently he's playing. It's good news for England to. Yeah. And then another one from today the final one from today JJ five. One arsenal over born meth boy reports of Arsenal's demise may have been greatly exaggerated. I think when we talked on this podcast. We were referring mainly to the Jonathan Lou piece that I talked about which is really about the direction of the club. How it's in this kind of nether zone and also ownership, and I don't think anything has changed in that regard arsenal should be well capable of beating aboard of five one in their own ground you. Yeah. Five one you. And I think somewhat highly of born to be losing five one Andrew if we learned anything about born is that they can compound you with great performances. But don't forget Liverpool went there and give them a woman to they are susceptible desire because the point they don't play like the other teams they play open attractive football on the top sides want that kind of thing to pick you off. Yeah. Arsenal have been. They've been very good of late. I'm they're back into the top four. They since that Chelsea they remember they lost a West Ham and everybody thought, oh, what's going on the sky's falling within they beat Chelsea beat Cardiff lost a man city. But then haven't lost since beat Huddersfield beat Southampton crushed Bournemouth. So they're they're still kind of rolling along in a way that maybe some people had kind of forgotten about. Okay. So all right. I'm just saying I know it's and now we'll get to what to watch for shortly. But a lot about them and their opponent will be judged in. What happens this weekend? I'll tell you. What was like a very quick break. We do have a little bit more of mid week action that we'll talk about next. You have a mailbag. Oh, yeah. Okay. What's watch for? Oh, there's still so much to do. Don't go anywhere. Sure, the car rather show bring character today with show multiple character this week. I think he's in the Bill cartoon team today really shouldn't demonstrate again, the character could character. He's back. Oh, we missed him. Brendan Rodgers is back. He will be the manager of Leicester City. All that speculation. You've thought okay, maybe this will happen. But we'll probably have to wait till the end of the season. Right. No. Now, it has to happen. Now, he has left Celtic, and he he's with Leicester City JJ tremendous character. Yeah. Not appreciated by the Celtic fans, Celtic traveled to hearts tonight. And according to Michael grant of and a football journalists in Scotland subject fans Bonner on Rogers, you traded immortality. For mediocrity. Never set always a fraud. Well, if you have many trophies did he win while he was there yet? Yeah. But he's going for the treble treble. Okay. And he's left. I can't I see where they're coming from. It's very strong. I don't believe that it was bluster that he was proud to manage Celtic. But I do believe that. He I don't know why he couldn't have waited until the summer to go to LeicesteR. I cannot fathom why he couldn't have finished out the work. It's almost March. I know it's I tend to agree with it leaves a bad taste in the mouth. And it also shows how times have changed I dug out an article from two thousand when Mark no Neal made the opposite move from LeicesteR to Celtic, and it was seen as this massive step up. Now Celtic are still a massive massive club on on a global scale as a club. They're just way bigger than Lester. So that's that. That hasn't changed for me. What has changed is the money in the Premier League? And the and the the. The things he can do at LeicesteR moneywise. He simply can't do a Celtic. If you're Brendan Rodgers. I I kind of understand why I don't like that. He would leave his team midseason with everything that they have going for them you'd kinda like him to finish that out. But you know, it's easy to sit here and say it's March just wait till the end of the season. And then the job is yours. Yeah. Well, that that is a dangerous assumption to make it's the same assumption that pretty much everyone was making at Manchester United. But now a new manager comes in. Interim only social and look what he's done. He's basically one that job. I mean things could still happen that may still change. But it looks like right now he might have played his way into being the front runner for that position. So if you're Brendan Rodgers you can say, oh, just finish out with Celtic. And then they'll announce that I'm the manager after the season's over somebody's going to go in there and take that job, and Lester is a talented side. And if that person gets something out of them, you may miss your window to get back into the Premier League with a pretty good club. So I don't. I don't like that. He did it, but he's looking out for himself. And I I understand that he is. And he was also quite frustrated at the way, south didn't open the wallets. So he could comp- compete in Europe because he knew going to Celtic. The main opportunity was get them into the Champions League. And go on a run on the money hasn't been there to do that he's on a shoe string compared to Lester. This is. How times have changed the Scottish TV deals do not bring in the kind of revenue that he would wanted to do the things he wanted to in Europe. And guess what say he had finished in may. And this is to your point. How do you finished in may with the treble treble history that still wouldn't play as much to the bigger teams in Europe as the fact that he went out very early to Valencia in the Europa league. Yeah. That's the facts of it. It's true. And that is the prison through which he seen. He also has owned finish business thirteen fourteen. I'm what happened in fourteen fifteen afterwards. He was this close to having a statue of side of onfield and winning the league. He was very very close. And it was the difference between Suarez leaving a Mario batali Coleman. You know? Now, that's one thing that will hang over him at bought Liverpool and Celtic his signings have been the big question Mark on. He can't afford to make the same stakes at LeicesteR. I still wonder as good a coach as he is is he that good judge of a player. Yeah. That remains to be seen. I guess boy that just sound hearing you hearing that said never a self. That just sounds harsh to me for a guy who just one and one and one it's going to was there. And don't forget he's from like one of the hotbeds of Glasgow. Celtic support Northern Ireland that is that is really going to sing with him. I don't believe it was bluster. I just believe Dermot Desmond at Celtic did. Not back him the way he thought he would be back. Maybe I just hope the ranger fans are taking this. Okay. I know how how beloved he was by them. Well, Neil Lennon who has let's just say a history of being sectarian abuse from hearts from Rangers. From whoever wants to throw it out him is no back in the hotseat at Celtic and good luck to him. But it's amazing his first game Orleans. First game back was at at at heights where only a few years ago, he was manager of Celtic on a fan ran into the technical area and assaulted punched him, he's bad. He would you want? He wants to win. I don't know try to win the people back over. I don't know. They should they should win everything that's kind of like where they're at right now in that. I guess so lesser by the way did win over Brighton to one Rogers was there. Yeah. Showing tremendous character. He's always let's see Cardiff City falling at home to Everton three nil. Goo performance by Everton, actually, some players back into the bit of form. Shaimaa Coleman in particular who's been getting a lot from the fans. There's a lot of guys there who've been getting it in the neck that this was a decent performance going into the derby. Yeah. I like that both Liverpool. Everton are coming in hot now. Yep. Heading into that game. It's going to be wild Huddersfield town to feeding wolves on a late goal. One nil. Forty three percent of Huddersfield's points. This season have comb against wolves. We've talked about it with wolves where they they do that thing where they play down to their competition. It's a real problem for new. Lewisburg to Santi. He's got to figure this one out if they're going to make the push that a imagine the investors want the club to me. Well, what is it? I mean, what are we saying that like wolves should be contending for what like to me that the money that's behind them with the knows they have in the transfer America. They should be looking to push into that upper that that top starting the big six into a big seven trying to well, the contri-. But that's that's a tall order. You're right. Maybe they're bringing in here. But that's that still so difficult wall to break for this summer is going to tell tale on their ambitious definite. Who can they keep and who can they keeping an exactly and then let's see last, but not least Newcastle and Burnley to nil to Newcastle and another ovation from gal galman, they love him. They can't get enough of him. He is in the northeast. He is eight he is war on the run. You know, what that means? What you say wore out Marin. I don't know. Should I so war is a colloquialism of their oh, they used to call Alan Shearer war Allen. It means hours does. Yeah. So I'd say were Gundy our gunned Ling gutter. Right. So he's wore out Marin our Elnora. He's he's got spark. He drives out the players. He's also South American than he brings back memories of players like full Stena sprea goes like that Newcastle fans. The myth of Newcastle happened in a period between nineteen ninety one and nineteen ninety seven under Kevin Keegan and it was all about entertaining football. And that's what he's bringing wrath was pragmatism and mcghee's sexy skills. So there you go that is our look at the Premier League mid week action. We'll touch on some of the games coming up this weekend. And what to watch for I though CONCACAF Champions League JJ. As. Okay. Let's see the Houston dynamo. It got a little bit Harry there. But in the end, they do advance over Guasta Toya three one on aggregate guava Toya tied it up in this one in the seventy second. But two goals from our Minolta's one of the seventy seventh one in the eighty fifth put the dynamo through. So congrats to them. Yes. Minolta's is a guy who comes up with big goals for the dynamo. I think they could we may talk more about it in our analyst preview, but they could be sneaky good. I don't mention them. Well, actually, I don't know if I do either the complaint shall Shelby coming from. Let's see Toronto FC JJ they needed a miracle. They needed a miracle. And they did not get it. When they scored in the nineteenth. You were like, okay. It's on we go. Let's see. And then the game happened, and it continued to happen. And nothing happened except Independiente scored a lovely goal where it was a mistake by laurel Simone who was. Isn't playing like the MLS defender of the year from few years by does get mentioned in the preview, I'll say boy now he back heads the ball to no-man's-land and brownie the strike are runs in our midfielder rather. And Cam as you like rounds Bono and slots home, and they are absolutely deserving of advancing. They have humiliated around five one on aggregate JJ. I just can't possibly think of a worse way for them to come off of what was a disastrous season a year ago. You think okay? Fresh start it's tough to defend the title. Let's enter this two thousand nineteen campaign just with a clean slate. And no it's more of the same from last year. If you're on the fence kind of sports fan who likes who has disposable income and can spend it on a few different teams in Toronto. You're not spending money renew in your season ticket. Oh that is really harsh. I can't believe you just said that to be honest that was no. I'm not saying I'm just trying to get into the, you know, the that kind of middle ground fan that you need to fill these groans is. He is he going to renew based. Alright. Well that AUSSIE. I mean that was shocking. Yeah. It's it's a horrible start to the season. Now, they may bolster they make it a few transfers in. Well, and they did just so we had thought Josie out the door was leaving club. And now, they appear they appear to have resigned him. So he will be a member of Toronto FC for years to come. Void and outdoor front yet. Appears that way weird. Well, we'll find out. Let's see mailbag Osceola soccer pod. Coughs ipod at gmaiLcom. Keep them coming Asher. Smith nine years old from Columbia, Missouri. Big shoutout to use her your daddy mailed. In said, you're an avid listener that you get hyped and you enjoy when Andrew goes. Been with that. So it is what it sounds like. So we're glad you listened to us. A hope you're enjoying this podcast and Asher Smith. Yes. Showed be. Oh sweet summer child. Really? You haven't seen lion? King every nineteenth kid first. Heartbreak. Okay. Maybe our site of the ninety s while I grew up in the nineties to an ever watched it in the ninety s but maybe the linking doesn't do much for me. But for a certain Liverpool red, aka Virgil Van Dyke. It's quite the opposite. Busy lenders is something something, you know, very special. I think. Like Disney movies the classics not the real real classic. But like lion. King those kind of classics and Aladin boy. Yeah, I'm I'm a big Disney. Disneyland fan my kids says well, and I'm just I love to take him their love to see them smile. Obviously enjoying every Bill of it. Even if it's with the character that comes breakfast with and see them. So an so happy makes my day. And is just great. That's beautiful. What a guy log and agree with them. More speaking to BBC radio five live just decides the volunteer emoji loves Disney. How did that come up? I didn't hear what the question was. Oh, well, I'm sure plucked it off the Twitter. I'm not listening to a whole interview of him talking about Disney, you know, this is a Disney owned podcast. Disney is a fine company. I just I'm not into some of the films Ryan Harold or Andrew he's upset and sent a long Email, which I'm not reading all right because he feels we've been disparaging. Guimgamp who won the French Cup in twenty fourteen beating amongst others along the way a talented, Monaco. Now, we this is people listening to what they want to hear. We just use green Gump as a just as a team we say that PSG insert random French team here, literally. And we often say we don't watch enough French football. We are not disparaging French football. If anything were saying it's better than we thought by pointing to Leon success in the Champions League. And also to pointing to how PS g have no problems turning up into Old Trafford and playing the performance they do do me a favor or is this your tenth an apology because please don't apologize. I'm not autumn of the league right now. They've won four matches a season. They got eighteen points, the probably going down. So if we're going to use them as a just say waking. I'm not I'm not apologizing for that. For us kind of having a laugh at the worst team right now in the French leaks. Ryan. Yeah. Hugh, laurie. Yeah. Humorless, man. How're hiaasen schooler? Hey, guys, longtime listener hair absolutely love the show. And look forward to them every week. Do you guys believe Cardi might not end up at a grit club because of his baggage? Or do you believe that are you do you believe that he will be overlooked because of his ability that some fine reading by you, I'll say that, you know, he means will this be overlooked. So with a club take a big club take him on anyway. Well, defined what a big club. He's out of big club. Now, right and want to narrow his wife has all sorts of problem. Well, east causing problems himself. I don't wanna blame it all on her. But she is. So fr look it all depends on first of all talent wise. He I think he belongs at almost any club. Right. But but then they saying well a club like Real Madrid. Take a chance. On him. Or would it be more club likes Avia who still like that's why I'm asking what you consider to be a big club. Like severe is still a big club Tottenham is a big club. But not to the level that maybe somebody like a Cardi typically, but you want to take him on if he's going to act the way that he does on if his agent is going to be that vocal about about issues pertaining to the team. Well, here's what she had your options. Here's what any Infantino had to say he weighed in apparently, he's an inter fan. He spoke to Gazetta dello sport. I would always want to carry in the team. And I hope there that there can be way internet Cardi make. A way to make both of them happy. I guess he said, you way fan fica are working together on a very important issue, which also has ethical implications on a business that every year moves eight billion that business is the business of agents, the profession of agents must be regulated. Yeah. I don't know. That's a shot across the bows. At a at Wanda, Nara now agents general, yes, no. She used the term in social media of revolution. So what Carrie is referred to herself as a revolutionary right which will scare the pants off any club. Right. The clubs don't already know that agents have too much power, and they pay them too much money. Anyway, the last thing they want is the agent creating a Ferrari where you lose your club, captain, which has happened in this case. Yeah. Jonathan Clark thoughts on the new camera angles for the caribou called penalty. Shootout. Do you like it? It looks fica s it is very it's MLS ask the MLS Cup. Final shoots outs have been like this forever. I love it. I think it's the best angle actually. Because it kind of gives you the closest perspective. I I guess you would have to say as to what the player himself is seeing. Yeah, it's perfect. No don't do. What FOX did a few years back on Seattle's winning penalty. Reuters the penalty stroke it pans to another camera and you actually miss the penalty itself. Finally, Alberto Muna's. This is a tough one. How's it going guys? I live in Austin, Texas, and it looks as though we are getting a team here. Pretty soon what I was stationed in San Diego and started following the galaxy and even had the pleasure of going to a few games. My question is now that we're getting a team in my hometown. Do think ju guys think I'm obligated to be an Austin f c fan. I don't know if I could see myself rooting against my boy to Santos if he ever comes to play in Austin love, the pod keep up the good work. No. You don't if you're in LA galaxy fine while you were in in San Diego dots fine for that. Is that I understand the conflict. But you're I think you do have to. Stick with your team, if you're a galaxy fan, I think know, I think you have to remain loyal. But that's a tough one to like have gotten into MLS ahead of the curve of everyone else. And now, everyone is going to be linking up with you as an MLS fan, but you'll be the outcast. Like, I I see I see the dilemma there. Yeah. But if you look at American general when the Cowboys were successful you had Cowboys find in jersey is not to the level of the NFL. Right. I think he should stick with his team. I think so too because that's what it's about if you're a fan loyalty. But that's I see why he's he's struggling unless you Brendan Rodgers tremendous character. Let's see what to watch for. There's more Concha CAF Champions League JJ. Stay Thursday at eight o'clock at landing editor of c we'll try to overturn their two goal deficit. They're down three one as they had back to Georgia against Herod Yano, Thursday, ten o'clock PM sporting Kansas City, right now, other than the Houston dynamo sporting KC appears to be the the one MLS team covering themselves in glory, three nil. They lead to Luca heading back to the second leg for that. They should take care of business. The roads into Lucas could be a little bit tricky. It's not a foregone conclusion. But nevertheless, four three two LUKA. Let's see COPA. Del rey. Second leg on Thursday who will be taking on Barcelona in the final like, we said it's Valencian row. Petits going back to Valencia tied to two and the primarily this weekend. Lots of good ones here. It's it's kind of book ended by a couple of the league's biggest rivalry Saturday. Seven thirty in the morning you start off with Tottenham and arsenal arsenal. Certainly the form side right now Spurs not it's important for Tottenham right now, they still are third. So they're top-four hopes are still obviously, you know, you're betting on them to obviously qualify for Champions League. But it's an important one. It's an important one nevertheless boy losing twice to arsenal for them with just be brutal this season. And then they do have champions to look forward to shortly after that. So we'll see I'm a little I'm a little nervous, quite frankly, Saturday, ten AM born with and Manchester City born Muth, I don't know they kind of been like after that four nil win against. Chelsea there's been some rough going for them as of late including like, we said against affirmation arsenal. But five dot is the nature of them. They know it's weird, but they want to play open expensive football. We praise them when they do it on. So they've got to reap what it's going to come to them when they get caught caught opened by bigger teams Sunday nine oh five. It is a London Darby and Fulham are involved, which means they have another chance at ending their streak of London Darby defeats nine consecutive defeats in London, derby matches that is the most in history they will be at Craven Cottage for that one. And last but not least Sunday eleven fifteen. Am you end your AP L weekend? With Everton Liverpool at Goodison. Which should be really really really fun game. That's going to be red hot. Because it's not it's going to be fresh in the memories of Everton supporters. Exactly what happened in those final moments with that weird virgin Van Dyke volley and do diva Caridi on the image of Van Dyke walking away disability early after having thought, he he, you know, basically ended the game they're incredible. And you're you're right Everton. They must be they must be thinking about that every day. How is Jordan pick for going to be the because he is a guy who seems to? To thrive on like nervous energy certainly joined the World Cup. Certainly in that game. He is going to be absolutely. Is it worth going back and re listening go home and go on that goes into the penalty area from Alexander Lonzo Meena with the head of wild volley from dike? Quit. The same thing. Have you seen anything like? Really the best part of that. Call is the the way our little captures just the mundane nature of the shot. It's a scuffed shot. It's nothing shot. And then. Oh, that's awkward. Yeah. It's perfect. Yeah. Very cold. Did a great job of that. He's he's he's great, man. So there you go that is your a city, obviously MLS returns this week. And we do have an MLS what to watch for on our other podcasts. The MLS preview Alejandro Moreno will join that as well. Like, we said Landon Donovan, I hope you all listen to it was we had a good time. We're we're ready. We're ready for domestic soccer to return Rian joined the pot. Hope everyone else does. Yeah. I enjoy this one as well. My friend to you. I say I'll see you Termine this character. Union listening to cod off side soccer podcast.

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Caught Offside: EPL recap, De Boer out, Dash triumph

"Offside! J Batty. Yes. Hold off saw from a suburb of New York. City An apartment in Brooklyn New York Andrew Gambling and JJ Vani what's up, brother. How's it going? Man another season in the books I know I know I was. You know you get nostalgic at the end of seasons you start thinking about you know all it's. That's happened over the course of the season will. Like. I guess I was GONNA. Ask this question later in the POD, but I'll just kinda. Give you my preview now of just kinda like our general thoughts and feelings on the season. I will say that. I hated this season. Yeah, I know that I hated the season and I'm not even saying that because Tottenham finished sixth like it. It's not birthright to finish top four. I can handle a season of finishing sixth. It's not even that we'll talk later on in the PODCAST, but I hate to say because I. Love this sport, and and and this is my favorite league, but. Season was just the worst. That was the worst. That's fine for you to say that I obviously have different feelings. Yes, of course, trying to I'm trying to remove all personal club bias. What did that? You're not even a thing for me. We'll talk about it later on podcast. We have a lot to get to obviously the final day of the season. It solidified all that needed to be solidified, so we'll go through top four and relegation, and how it all went down. MLS is back rolls on, we know. Half of our. Quarterfinal Teams and by the time he listens, you'll know even more. Sadly. We're going to be on during like we're. We're not able to tell you what happened. In the Seattle L. AFC match like that would have been like that would have been great, final or semifinal, unfortunately around sixteen, but I know, but it's just the way things are. There's quite a lot of football all of a sudden for after months of no. No football and it's it's hard to find the sweet spot, but if we WANNA talk about the primarily League Andrew. Tonight's the night to do it I think of course of course congratulations to the Houston Dash on their win in the end of Yourself Challenge Cup we will mention that you've got a nice nail bag here which I'm looking forward to. A little bit of Lower League. Football appears in the mail bag tonight, which yeah a little bit of a mention, and we'll also have a brief. Look. What's going on in the L. Playoffs? After Legion went up. We talked about that last week and also. West Brom the Boyne Boyne baggies are back, but there are playoff games to discuss, too. Yeah, yeah, props, the Fulham with a little to no today, so we'll mention that is well. Well. That's always every American fans number two team How are you by the way I feel like you know? We had that that period of time in the beginning of all this. Where like we asked each other every week how we were doing but I. we've gotten away from that and I. You know you and I. We text all the time. We talk all the time, but it's always. What are we talking? We're talking nonsense. Message, how are you? Not Great today in a bit of a bit of a rook today in a bit of A. Bit of a anxiousness in anxiety about the future, and all those things in debt. Trying to keep. Dak Thought. Set Bay As. Most people know on, and certainly our international listeners will be aware you know. We're not in a great place right now here in the good old USA and yeah, just a little bit worried about the future and the things that are happening, but I I? I'm sure I'm not the only one I'm sure there's people listening to this who have the same thoughts and concerns about themselves and their loved ones I think it's important almost for people to hear it that almost to remind them that you know you're not alone because you know what I have found because like you I was I was probably where you are. A week or two ago, just like down in my head, and just like down on stuff. It's a couple of things one of the problems is you know I go on twitter and you just see people. Like. You see like unrepresentative fun. You know like somebody will do something that looked really cool and awesome and you're like. Why am I not doing stuff like? Am I wrong to just like still be shacked up my house and afraid to be going out in my life being too cautious here like why do I see all these people having fun? I haven't had I haven't had fun and months. You know so you start like getting in your own head about that stuff and you just like you know you. Meanwhile, you're in your house. For you? You're in a small apartment like you know constantly, and it's kind it all gets. The of the walls are closing in and it just like, and then you see that figures of numbers rising in certain parts of the country in like year conflicting stuff about vaccines, and you know you just think like. When are we going? You know and it's you get in your head man, it's. Sure to look the future is never promised pandemic or not, but for sure the the anxiety is just at a level of being so heightened that it did impinges on your every day, but look. I will say this and I've consistently said this and when we get to the mail bag is going to be mentioned by other people. This is an oasis in the week. Let's go to the way oasis. Andrew let's crack, open coconuts and drink on some tropical juices from within I. Don't wear going with this, but I'm trying to be relaxing. No I don't feel relaxed at all. I I don't know how to open a coconut. Should I know how to do that I I? Don't I don't think it's juice milk a coconut now I'm confused to do I really know anything about what about the splinters from the coconut water? Sharon should rupture my cranium all misprint in twenty twenty. All of these things are possible. Let's talk about the final day. As the primarily comes to an end for the twenty, thousand, nine hundred and twenty season with start with the top four race, it was essentially billed as a A Champions League playoff match between Leicester, city and Manchester United it really was. And two nil, it goes to Manchester United. It will be them taking part of the Champions League next season, and not Leicester City the restart as we've talked about for Leicester was it was just brutal? I mean it was. It was awful, but even amidst all of that they still had this chance on the final day. Where they essentially control their own destiny was a winning situation but it was not meant to be and I. Don't want to sound like a broken record, but I do think it bears repeating again. That as an unbiased neutral observer here. It's almost hard not to feel at least for me. Some sympathy towards Leicester City because I do believe people are jump me on this, but I believe that on form of of their best eleven verse. Whoever's best eleven to me? Leicester City proved beyond a shadow of a doubt. They were one of the three best teams in England this year. But depth matters. It's part of the game. Injuries are part of the game. Suspensions are part of the game, so you can't rule that stuff out. But like I'm looking at Leicester's lineup in this game that means everything to them. There's no guarantee they'll be back in this position again next year. for clubs like Lester days like this or promise to nobody and I'm looking and I'm like this is just not. This is not the team that got to this point. Sure Jamie Vardi is out there and there's no you know. There are good players still on the pitch, but like no. Where's James Madison? Where's Ricardo Pereira Bench? Show wells not out there. So. I always say his name rock so you, don't she? Yet the do. Yeah, he's not out there like this is not. This is just not the team, and unfortunately that's who they had to put out there on the final day and I'm like I didn't even mention it last week I was my memory was job by a person who tweeted at me that like less than moves to Tottenham three nil the week before and Ryan Bennett is playing centre half. And he's awful. or Just he's having a nightmare of a game and Harry. Kane is owned him and next. Thing you, you blink your eyes and lost their down free at the half and this guy who shouldn't be playing is out there, and it's just. It's part of the game, but it's just like damn, that's. Just a tough break at the most important part of the season, when like everyone used the break these that four month off to get healthy. It seemed like Lester just like their injuries only got worse. Injuries have been a part of it. I will give you that a grant you. That Andrew had Andy May on well. He felt that it since the turn of the year since they were in second place, maybe even since the beating. That Liverpool gave them on since Stevens as day. Thought really set them back. But I've been pondering this an been pondering eight. Because you know, we do a rundown and you. You just put such a grit question into my head You wonder where Lester go from here. Andrew Rights. And, I've been pondering this over the last few days and particularly today on a really. Don't know what Brendan Rodgers can do. No going forward Andrew I'm reminded of the tale of You're familiar with acres right of data's fame. Yeah? Chris flew too close to the sun in an attempt to escape crease the island of Crete. unassimilated van like Brendan Rogers exceeded expectations early on which was probably the worst thing that could have happened so i. want you to play a little imaginary game here Andrew? Think imagine how we would view Brennan's forceful season, unless there's finished if they'd been in or around wolves and Sheffield United for the majority and ended up in fifth. Oh the perception would be completely different right we'd be. We'd be applauding really grit season and a solid start for for Brendan Rodgers and for Leicester instead. Brandon Nicholas flew right up to second place before the sun melted, his wings fell to the rocks below. I know. Lester know that it's less than as a club Leicester as an organization Lester as a fan base notes more likely than not that he can't do that again. United going to be stronger Chelsea are going to be stronger city or the door slams shut on those kinds of teams like the the woes and the Leicester's. We think more than likely so what now well opens now. They signed James. Madison to what was a four year, or it seems like they're going to sign James. Madison do a four year contract. Yeah, I mean that's that's massive. I can't express how important that is, but if you're you're kind of holding onto the idea that Wayne, Brendan acres was up climbing up near the song. That's where he should be. When in reality Brandon. Brandon Curtis was better taking off down the beach, slightly just just floating above fifth, or just below fifth place, and then landing and saying today the list the owners of Leicester See. We're doing okay now. Everything's going to be through the prism of that full from second-place, those melted wings and I. think that's the issue. Well, I will say this, he can still go. Go to data Lewis and say everything is okay because he can do what I did like. We talk about injuries as reasons or excuses, he can go to them and say look. You saw how good we are. When we're healthy I need more in reserve, you know. fell to the to the earth because his wings melted i. need another set of wings that I. I can throw on my back for when they start to melt. You know like look. How look how we were second. We were battling we. We were the contenders with Liverpool and then guys started getting hurt, so he can still go to them and spend a certain narrative that all is not lost. This is that is what you saw is who we really are. Leaving this week analogy just for for one second. Even in the first half of that game, there was a moment. There's a few moments I want to say. I think united came really into it prior to halftime, but there was a portion in the middle of the game that roos really Brendan Rogers, Andrew They, were passing the bowl that were moving the ball well, and then there was this run I think it was from natural. And pug, which is that's him go? We can't keep up with them. Torch passed POGBA and suddenly he's in front of the goal. Gaping and only needs to keep his composure. Get a shot off on higher to the corners, and he just floods lines. He scoffs the shot and the hey, eventually e. he flipped his lines to. He made the save and I kinda summed up, Lester for me and Not really less or Brennan Rogers Andrew Dirt so much. You look at Brendor Brendan Rodgers teams that flatters to deceive their neat their tidy. He's already he loves. You know technical players like Patino and Madison until he likes these kind of players, and he said I think earlier today are sorry yesterday. He said he wants more technicians at at Leicester. But ultimately they even went variety like the Premier Leagues Golden Boot winner. Take care just. They don't have that couldn't trust. He his death by football, his his attractive style of play. Let's go back to the game at Old Trafford. I watched that game. Andrew, own the ball data tone a chance, and they never made it happen like they I just feel like we've. We've hit peak Brendan here. I know I know what he did at. Celtic, but that was expected in a Scottish League. It's not the same thing I think we've hit peak Brendan I'm not sure if Lester. If. That's going to be enough now. We have to see GIG Brendan. Meaning this level as he hasn't at fifth and they can't be better than that I can't think I can't adjust can't see it. Accounts I don't know if I agree the only reason I might agree is because there was clearly a window in this year to do it with right and out like united and Chelsea and Spurs arsenal all in this period of flux. So in that sense I get what you're saying for sure now let's look at the Manchester. United side of this. You know in terms of where Lester go from here. What about united like it's interesting, because for months now we've been hearing about Manchester United Making this grand pushed aside Jadon, Sancho, but like putting the cart before the horse. You think Jadon Sancho go to. Manchester United if they don't even qualify for Champions League like they were making all these proclamations for months for months while they were sitting fifth and sixth on the table, the Union. They must be good thing. Thank God. Things went the way that they did now. We can actually do all the plans that we had written down. Don't forget the variable there under that. You've left out. Is that united can pay wages to players. Entice them to come, even though they're not guarantee. Champions League football. We have seen that in the past. A bit, but they'll be competing against other clubs for him. That can also pay high wages as well right, but in terms of England. There's only one team that can challenge them, and that's their neighbors down the road in terms of the really big big wages, but you're right This is huge for united as a club in terms of revenue, and also like I, said in terms of the salaries. They pay it they. They need the revenue of the Champions League. They've got to be in the Champions League and Saul Shar was I wouldn't say bullish, but he was very pleased mine at the weekend now. There's work to be done. I think I think me and you have in the past. Go grown, but there's few positions were not so sure about goalkeeper and centreback still an issue. which is I would imagine saw are taught. When he took over that job, one position was solidified was his key part. That's not the case. He's got a big call to make their to stick or twist, or what does he do? But. Yeah, look at look. It's turned out really well for them they've. They were slipping into our preseason narrative, which was that the was justice Moshe below the top two city and Liverpool and it was so fluid and influx that anyone could pop in there and we even thought. Maybe wolves are less star could be the team to unseat one of the traditional powers there for united to get in there to sneak in there to stay. To to get back in the champions, league is huge. It really is. They're not going to be a hundred percent. In terms of transfers moving forward, however I think with what we saw like. Let's be honest. This team is just not where they are. If it's not for the the move to bring Brunner Fernandez like you know between him and Wamba Sokha. Like I think we now at least temporarily need to retire the narrative about Manchester United and you know irresponsible buys and swinging missing on on Deanery as an Alexa Sanchez's and all that stuff and. They those two signings in particular have been so brilliant for them and those players they're. They're not in this position. If it's not for those two guys and their young players united more than almost anyone. Right now. I feel like has A. Kind of a rosy view of what the future could look like yeah. But again I I do think they'll need to do more than need to replace manage, they will. They will do more because it's Manchester. United and they can't especially now that they're in the Champions League. I guess so. Let's see so yes, congrats to them. And then Jj. Chelsea as well a a rebuilding season essentially ends with a Champions League. Berth for Chelsea was not always pretty at time. I referred to them as maybe the league's most confusing team this season. But in the end they do they do enough. I mean even this past weekend. Against Wolves wasn't always perfect, but they just had like one spell one three minute stretch. Not to go to on like the specifics, but the second goal the JERUGA L- How does he get to that ball I? Don't know was a connor cody. It was recording Hanako. Must be because he comes over maybe his left shoulder to buyers him out of the way and get the bowl like maybe coldeze I mean he should be fully aware of what's happening. Why isn't he just like slid through the ball or swung at it to get it out of there I don't I don't really understand but look Chelsea. Chelsea's really interesting. Because you're right. They've at twelve defeats all season. There's been times when they have not looked good. They've got. They've got enormous issues. And Frank Lampard had dropped CAPELA. It's about I got previously in the season and ends up doing it again for because he can't trust him in the final game of the season to ice things. Again very important that Brendan Rodgers Lester didn't get the win that they wanted and this whole in this whole makeup of the champions. League but but that aside just just focusing on Chelsea bringing in. Brandon Koya verts Pulitzer six. They're established as habits. Is that official? I was listening to journalists today on a podcast. WHO's reputable? WHO believes it will happen within the next few days. Oh my God, you're on top of verner onto verner -peutic. Decisions to make us have to move some players out as well Z while comes EAC is there. We're going. We're talking about Manchester, united having a rosy looking future I mean. Chelsea Chelsea's has to look pretty good as well. I would say the one thing for Lampert is for to whom much is given. Much is expected, so he's GonNa have to organize that it can't be a kiss just pegging them all out onto the field at the one time or the other issue is what we've seen how bad they are in the center back position, and even the full-back positions so. You don't have to move on some players. Look at the defense and. ardia really GONNA face an entire season Willie. Number one I wouldn't think so fair. Totally Fair question. You know more than I think. Of all the teams in the league with Liverpool, being the only exception. I think if you had given Chelsea like. This is how your seasonable end you will be. you'll finish top four for qualify for. Champions League and let's say they go on to win. The FA Cup and Poison FA Cup. Trophy if you had given them that at the beginning of the season I mean in a year they lost Eden has are they have a transfer ban that they're that? They're dealing with the have a manager and Frank Lampard who doesn't really know this league yet. I mean my God. They would've they would've they couldn't get couldn't get yes out of. Of their mouth fast enough I think if you handed them that scenario, it's worked out very well and but you know there are still questions to be answered about l'empire boat I mean the way he organizes defense the way he sets up this team with the new players that he has lot of. We didn't really get a chance to talk about the Chelsea Liverpool game, but I there was some confusion like why is pulic not starting? While he had a knock, he definitely had a knock. But he's good enough to come on. He did not look in the in fact, he played angry. Yeah He. He played on the edge. He was magnificent. And you question lampert there one thing he's actually been pretty good at over. The last stretch has being substitutions. Remember the substitution where he showed his entire midfield in the FA Cup semi final, and then brings in this whole new midfield experience midfield to go to go after things, so, but but that caused people to raise their to raise eyebrows Yeah, it's GonNa be I'm still not convinced by. A lot of questions you you really in the weight finished up. You can't have asked for a better finish for Chelsea. Not Real now. The biggest drama of the day probably was what went down at the London stadium semi drama. Well I, mean the final five minutes of that game were probably the most tense five minutes of any game played, but you're still. You're still looking at London Stadium and you watched Aston Villa. Secure their face with a goal from Jack Relish. And then you saw immediately afterwards them unsecure with one of the FREAKY EST goals. You're going to see so. I wanted to ask you a question about the goal yet, so it happens it goes in. And Tell Raina gets up and he just loses it on someone. He's screaming at someone. Yeah, who who is he yelling at their? He. Be Mad at on heat, ridiculous goal like that. He's yelling at the Gods for being thirty eight, and for his legs, being little bit to. stompie. It was if if people go back and look at a Peter Shilton conceding in the World Cup semifinal in Nineteen, Ninety Paul. Parker comes out block. German free kick. It hits him. Square in the behind loops up exactly like this goal and is in the space between the keepers outstretched hands because he's backtracking and the crossbar the that you can't get to if the ball loops like that, which it rarely does when that goal happen, Jay, I had like a like a P. Post. Traumatic stress disorder like a PTSD pack warmer Gonzales. The same weird loop I know why the way you you can't manufacture these these are freaks of nature. Ran Is just shouting out. He's howling. He's like King Lear on the heath, shouting at the elements because I mean he's got to show by the way goalkeepers always have to blame somebody else. I JUST WANNA. I wanted to like Kinda talk to the TV like dude who get mad at it was this. Like weird stuff just happens like what am I the way? His his madness was not long lived. He again is the king of celebrations. Do you remember in the twenty ten world cup? Like all the videos this was really before everyone was sharing everything to social media, but drips of stole for coming out on the spot on the Spanish boss in South Africa having not played a second of that World Cup, and he is the leader. He is the Patty Man. He is like one of the who was the main guy off jackass. Who was at the center of every party? Was it the party boy Chris Pontius, maybe what Chris Party is to party more. Party boy Chris Pontius, same thing at the weekend. He was in the in into locker room, going absolutely crazy, as was everybody else, but he was leading leading the party to things about that I. Before the Party began. Maybe my favorite image of the weekend was so it goes full-time and villa. Seemingly are are safe, and that's what you're thinking because you know. We've been monitoring the scores of all the other games going on WOFFORD. Still need to goals and their deep in stoppage time, so it's over like villa are safe, but so the camera goes to dean. Smith And he's like unexpecting to see him hugging his staff and and he refuses to even smile. And I'm thinking what is his deal? What's going on here and then like? All the twists and turns of Villa's. You know going down and like the way this season is gone for them. He's so conditioned I think. So expect the unexpected. The Milenko Golden. It just happened that like he would not. Even though Wofford were clearly not coming back to win, that game was over. Not crack a smile until he had finally had someone officially say to him. That game was over like what Andrew Dots. Wired differently man well, he is wired much differently. As is Jack Relish Dean Smith in particular Dean Smith is villa to the core, his his dad, who passed away at during the coronavirus pandemic. His Dad was a stewart at villa, Park. You know the fact that you know there's just a connection to the club so two Dean Smith has got that thing where he treats. You know like a fine. Imagine the final play of the Super Bowl. Like even after Philadelphia went ahead of the Egos, you were like tenses. Anything you know, 'cause you're 'cause. The Fan always imagines of the worst case scenario. All the ball was in the air on Tom Brady's Hail Mary. We're probably like the most nerve wracking seconds of my sports life, right? Yeah. So Dean Smith inhabits that body. It's funny, though because there's this narrative and they were talking about it in that on the broadcast, like in that span of time when villa were waiting like you saw John Terry like the earpiece, just waiting for the official word, and they're talking about how with villa they've come to expect the unexpected, these negative twists and turns. That have hit them and yet I don't fake Villafane can ever complain again in the rest of time about Fortune Lady Lock not being on their side, because once in in recorded, human history has goal line technology failed, and that one time was enough to keep villa up when it happened in the Aston Villa Sheffield united match after the restart. The only time goal line technology has ever not worked. It's the perfect technology except once I mean to me. This now goes up there. If you're talking about great phantom goals, like or or non goals, I guess. It's up there with the Tehran ball against Ireland. It's up there with the Panama Phantom goal to get through the World Cup campaign against Germany like this is now that moment has to like knowing now that that was enough to keep villa up like that has to go into that that category, the ghost goal that on the go school, the two thousand and five Champions League semi final. For Liverpool Luiz Garcia the yeah, yeah, all in their mind all in there You mentioned by the way to celebrations new. You sent me a text message of Roy Keane. Incredible. For the people what what is happening does no point playing the audio because it's such a visual thing, so they've got the camera. That skysports are there on at throw a Dave Jones. The presenters talking an in studio was Roy Keane and Meka Richards. The former Aston Villa and Manchester City player, and so all we can seize them jumping up and down rely even in in in the villa, dressing room. They're so happy on Dave Jones sets Roy Keane wonderful scenes, hair and the villa dressing room. Roy You couldn't begrudge them, you could. Could you, Roy? Could you begrudge them that? Of course, he begrudges this. Because of his just insane wiring in standards, this is never going to be okay so they. They throw to his face. And it's the face of just contempt for what he seeing an meanwhile, obviously knowing Roy well having worked with them across the desk is Meka Richer's. Who is laughing it just bursting out laughing in almost incredulity, Roy kings response to this again. It's further evidence. This isn't an act. This is who he is. I almost think that this is further evidence that it is an act because this to me is might be the most ridiculous one, yet no I i. honestly think this is a guy who, after he gave up drinking toward the end of the ninety S, and became this unbelievable machine professional, churning out championships for United Captain United Performances. He hardened his soul. To the, person who just lives in the moment he was always looking ahead to the next one, the next one, and the next one and and that's just who he is man I'm convinced of it I will say there is. There's always a a very very small part of me. That finds the visual, a little bit strange to be celebrating finishing seventeen like being the fourth worst team in the league, but it's also it's not. It's not set, it's. Relief I've I'm convinced haven't played support sports a little bit. Relief and celebration are our brothers. Their absolute. They're joined at the HIP. When you win half the time, it's a relief feeling that that's over and you've done it. When you stay up, can you imagine what that relief level that's? That's the thing ultimately. Is that the pressure? That that they had been faced with over the last several weeks. Really the entire season, but truly it Chris the pressure crystallizes in the last several weeks of the season. When you know, you're part of that relegation, race I mean it just must weigh on these guys every second of the day right and so to kind of sneak through with a tight win against arsenal, and then a win a game like this where you think you're safe, and then a crazy goal from West Ham and you've gotta sweat out the final few moments, and you're worrying about results elsewhere, and it's just like. The the stress of that on a professional athlete like this job is it's. It's a fun job that these guys have, but it's a tough job and it's a stressful job, too, and I. Think you have to find moments along the way to celebrate I agree with you and think this Andrew. Think of say a player like Connor Horon. Excuse me Connor. Who was at Barnsley open twenty seventeen, and tweeted out in two, thousand, seventeen, how we dreamed of plan in the Premier League and just got a list of people saying mate. You're good player in the championship, but you'll never be there. And he finally gets the primarily at aged thirty thirty one. and. You know he's he's GonNa WanNa, stay there. There's no guarantees Kinda Haroun his picked up by primarily team. If Philip, down. You know he probably goes down with the ship. and His dreams over so yeah, you can't I. Don't think you can police joy in the way Roy thanks, you can write meanwhile for the joy. Avila there is despair of others namely born myths. Who did their job against Everton? But it really is the definition of too little too late. This all felt for me. WATT for go down to their downward spiral culminated in relegation. They'll always have that. Liverpool came I. Guess which was the aberration to this season for them, but with born method it felt particularly hard just because. Not to be overly dramatic, but they've kind of been like. Kind of a fun story over the past several seasons since coming up this tiny ground that they plan, but this really this entertaining brand of football were there. They don't care who the opponent is. They are going for it. And at times it bit them because it left them exposed at the back, but at times we enjoyed it so much. Remember the four one against Chelsea last season. Remember. Brooks Repin it up, Ryan Fraser. They pass the ball they moved. They played out from the back. I. Like for all the good that we had seen from Bournemouth that they kind of you'll notice felt like they had established themselves as a as a mid table side the one year where they take a step back and bang right back down. This league is harsh man. This league is just it's hard. It's very tough and they looked at the Southampton game where they go up. And vire ruse up their last game. I think at vitality. Viral out. And That would have been an equaliser that would have been a precious point, and then go down the field. Nick to nillion also. It's been probably being common for a while. We've talked at least three times on this podcast. In the last year about their signings. The signings haven't been good enough. You'VE GONNA. If you're gonNA, stay up. You gotta get a Lotta them right. They did not do that and and that's where they are under. You do feed for them. Because they were, they were a nice break. They looked like they very much looked like championship club competing at. At the top table for I personally would be surprised if we don't see them. Come right back, but you don't know how. The squad could get pillaged like the champ. There's no way of knowing. Go down there and it's not. They're not gede, but not a big I. Look at the manager if he stays, I know what we're. His stock is at right now, but and I look at players that I suspect will still be on that team. I gotTA believe that they're gonNA. I. Think you're being incredibly naive about a club of that size. I think if we were talking about villa and the money that's behind them. I would feel more like day can go again. It's tough man. You go back down in there and you kinda get sucked into it. Forty six games Saturday Jews Day. It's A. It's a tough league man. Can I just talk briefly about Waterford at this was from Troy Deeney, who who was very candid as per usual This is what he said afterwards. The club from top to bottom will need to do an audit. Because sacking three managers, one season means we haven't got it right. Something went wrong. Is that managers? Is that players? Is it ownership we need to audit that and go through it all to see what went wrong so kind of strong words there especially asking the question about an ownership which? And he also claimed Dini obviously, he was pretty explicit. Saying it's NOCCO death three managers in the season. He also came out and said he's been playing through injury and needs a knee injury are knee surgery rather in the coming weeks so few other notes from over the course of the weekend. Jamie Vardi wins the Golden Boot twenty three goals for him. A balmy Yang comes in second with twenty two danny ings with twenty-one rain sterling with twenty and most solemn, rounded out the top five with nineteen, meanwhile Kevin Debris. Twenty assists tying a league record with Terry on thirteen goals to go with it as well. What a season! One of just three players with double digit goals and assist you WanNa. Try to name the other two. Double digit goals and assists yet only is at this year. one of them I already Mommy Yang. No, no. Go on, tell me quickey Mosala nineteen goals ten assists, and some Sun, young men with eleven, goals and ten assists for Tottenham Shoulda got sal up. Wouldn't it got sunny, but yet again? We're here saying what what a good player he is. Who Else Sonnet? That's those numbers in a in a tough year outstanding. Can we go briefly back to Jamie Vardi Andrew Yes many huge error. So Leicester City tweet does that Jamie Vardi wins the primarily golden boost becoming the first Leicester player to do so. and. I just decided I'll tweet to our followers. Who who are listeners who know my little takes? They know my little kinks so to speak, and I hit the idea that anybody places football within the context that it started in Nineteen ninety-two Gary Lineker. Won a golden boot. He shared it with Chelsea's Kerry Dixon and the eighty, four eighty, three eighty four season. Sorry eighty four eighty five season. and. And so it's, it's technically not true. This is not Leicester's first golden boot in the top flight. So, I! Say top-flight, though in their tweet, no bed PR- primarily but I I G-, Noord that because I'm thinking. It's going out to our followers. That's fine are followers. No might my little proclivities might me. They know my weirdness. Gary Lineker liked it. And Those Andrew became. The walk of the dead. The Ice King. And his minions slowly trudging through the snow towards my mentions. I got a lot of tweets from England. Are I walk up to a lot of tweets? From England Andrew. Some of them were not very nice. I'll put it that way. Here's what I don't understand though people with British flags. In their. In their twitter BIOS one guy. Saying, who gave me quite pointed abuse. He in his bio. He said how he was divorced twice, which was an interesting thing to add? Does he think he's on tinder? But yeah, it was It was one where to mute the replies. Now I will say this. In terms of the back Landrieu the battle. You know because that's called was. Last time I looked there was at least one hundred eighty five replies and twenty two re tweets. That's big. That's called being ratio however. In the like column. There was eighteen hundred likes. Which I would think means I'm winning in the smallest way possible here two things about it by the way you never actually said what your tweet was, did you? Did you read it? So people actually know what it is that you wrote. Yeah. I thought I did read it okay. Hold on, let me read it. Hold on, you're making me go through the horror again. Certainly Yeah Yeah. Not Really. So less I retweeted common tweeted less or not really Gary Lineker was joint golden boot winner in the top flight, ninety, four, eighty, five for Leicester. City but you know whatever. So two things about that. The way! I would say it's sixty forty sixty percent people disagreeing slash giving me unnecessary abuse slash forty percent saying. Didn't you being sarcastic and agreeing me? Didn't you know that football was only invented in one thousand nine hundred? So that's what I would have guessed. Most of the responses would have been on surprise. Well, it's twitter. I should never be surprised if someone says something and receives vitriol for. This one. I saw that you tweeted that you rolled. Your eyes rolled my eyes so hard. I was worried that they were that. They were GONNA get stuck. That I was going to need some sort of surgery to have them brought back, so I could see again much like it was just such. A. You're that guy now with even you. There must have been a part of you looking back in the tweet. That was a little bit disgusted with the person you've become you're that guy now? But I was playing to our crowd art gallery, and what I didn't reckon on our happened on was seven million followers being activated by. Old. Gary Lineker. Like Oscar in the office. They call him actually behind his back. Well, actually, actually, that's you like. Your line hit that guy. But you become him on twitter for sure I am well actually Let's see a couple of other things are Tottenham strong? Finish to the season is enough to get them into the Europa League, which by the way for them I don't WanNa I. Don't WanNa. Sound like I'm being condescending to that that matters and I was fully invested. netters because I look at them right now. They're not a top four side, and I don't necessarily see them being a team that makes the investments in the transfer window to compete with the likes of Liverpool City Chelsea in the united with with where they're headed, so if Tottenham WanNa route back into the Champions League I mean for me the Europa. League may very well be their best shot so I like you can. You can laugh at that all you want arrogantly, but I do think it's important for them to be playing European football and I will enjoy those games, the more they're playing, the better that is for their fans, and you know fill that new stadium. You get some marquis gains. Late it if you advance late in that tournament, so I I was actually invested genuinely invested in that. Yeah, no, definitely after you've played Alania, Vladikavkaz Aberdeen slager Rovers. Yuan Flurry, of Malta. Yeah, then you get the Marquis Games it's hard to be friends with you. You're the same person if sorts of raging hypocrite. You're the same person who counts Liverpool Borussia. Dortmund. In in the League is one of the greatest matches that you've ever seen Champions League or your the quarter final and I said the latter stages the tournament you animal. Cain scores again over the weekend? Andrew Olle finishes with eighteen on the year. Then Tottenham Tottenham are going out to Tavarez Simferopol in the first round. I will continue to ignore you because you are. You're as arrogant as your manager. That's what you are i. feel like I want to be frank. Lampard shouting you, or who was the other person that I saw dress Pereira for Manchester? United talking to how arrogant. Their Virgil Van Dyke and Liverpool are. You, you fallen right in line with with your club. This is why people feel the way about Liverpool they do people like you. I WANNA. Give a shout out to young for tongue, and by the way played his final game for the club announced. On social media was known that it was coming, but This guy really was like a bridge between eras. Yeah, he was three hundred fifteen appearances for the club. And you know we talk all the time about centreback pairings, and how like even the best teams? They like even when Manchester City were winning their titles that we talked about is Otamendi really good enough like you know? There were concerns and Tottenham it was an entire era of tongue in an Algebra Algebra. You were just like okay well, we're good. They're like there's other stuff to worry about. Maybe but like you never. You never worried about that. Centreback Perry through all those years so. What a great player for the club and On the pitch I don't know that he'll necessarily be missed anymore. It seemed like he had kind of fallen out of favor for whatever reason. Unfortunately, the manager decided. How can I expose my aging centre-back I? Know I'll play him as a wingback against Burnley. I mean look. It's not the only time that protagonist been played out there. It's it's it's against Borussia Dortmund the Champions League last year. It's the equivalent of me taking you unprepared and putting you in front of a standup comedy audience, taking you to the seller and throwing you up there and me going into the audience shouting funny. I'm just exposing you I'm always prepared to do stand up comedy. I have a bit ready every every second of the day in case that happens by the way. Silva says goodbye to the Premier League. It should be noted. However, he is not finished with. Manchester City just yet. There was like this kind of he got a standing ovation from his teammates crowd there, but he still like they're still in the Champions League so his time with Man City is not quite over. He could have a few more games. Should they continue? I'm. Wondering jj where he ranks among the Spanish players to play in England I think you're. You're trying to choose between. He's in this. Maybe I would put it down to three. Fernando Torres says fabric gas. And David Silva. Dot Com triumvirate right there for me would be the. No, there's others obviously. Oh, yeah, there's there are others but I think doing torres a bit of a favor including I think it's fabric acid Silva. While you've got to you as a credit, I think you're forgetting. tars is impact. In those early seasons, and those goals and fiberglass is ahead of Sullivan terms of. Like think about the length of time, in which Silva, and fabric asked did it in the primarily where Fernando Torres does not have that longevity of success. But like he came in, he was use a bright, shining light in the premier league, and and and. You know. exploded. With a did. He still spent the best years of his career. As peak years in England, Andrew between between Liverpool and Chelsea, whatever way you cut it there was voices of dissent, though so if you ever get the sky sports videos on Youtube, you see a lot of Graham soon. As on one of soon as kind of refrains is that David Silva is probably the best foreign import into the primarily everywhere. Oh! Yeah. Kenner Ken early takes issue with. A lot of the pundits and there are a lot opponents in England. Who believe that is the case and he wrote this. The time to death I was a good pace. It's blindingly obvious. That Silva is nowhere close to being the best primarily player or the best overseas, primarily player or anything like it. It's absurd to pretend. He was at the same level as pairs. TYRIAN RE Cristiano. Renaldo wires. Frankly, it's bordering on insanity to claim that he is better than his teammate Kevin, O'Brien. Who has contributed to goals are assists every three league games during city career compared to serve as one goal or assist every to a fair question would be whether. Davidge are Bernardo is the best silver at city a while. But I urged people I mean. Debrecen is one thing I. Don't know that I'd say. He's been better than Sergio Guerrero for talking about foreign imports, so no, no, but I'm but again you want to see the praise for this guy. It's a few Andrew. They are not short. There's a lot of people including Roy Keane yesterday. who called him a little magician and said Keane given this praise. There's lots of players right now. I love to still be playing against, but he's not one of them. Turn me inside out. I mean that's that's how he prays, so there's going to be some pushback against that. Yeah, we'll see what's next for him. I mean obviously. There's been a lot of MLS talk. Inter Miami, we we we we at one point. We were told that was nailed on the so we shall see speaking of farewells. Leighton Baines says goodbye, not just to Everton but to soccer in general yet hundred twenty appearances with Everton Carlo. ANCELOTTI said they'd like to keep a whidbey club I'm assuming it's kind of assistant. Coach or something one of the most beloved players at that club of this era maybe of any era. Given the length of time that he was there sure how to one of those moments Silva as well. where I found you know, we've said this all throughout the restart in these emptier in these empty stadiums. And you know these two guys who were beloved. WHO WERE LONGTIME? Greats at their clubs not being able to get the sort of ovation that I'm every great player I'm sure as their careers winding down has that moment where they kind of envision in their head what it will be like to hear that applause for the last time and it. Kinda Kinda bummed me out seeing David Silva. Leighton Baines, saying goodbye in empty empty stadiums and I'm bill. Do at some point, but it's not going to be the same. You would expect to have them back at some point, but you're right. They should be able to vote in their own terms, and letting bands at one point in terms of. Prime fullbacks in England was was head and shoulders, above a Lotta guys was huge calls from to be an England regular in England mainstay on I think right at the end on the border of late Twenties Early Thirties. He got a few injuries. Andrew on a kind of it took the juice out things I Adam Lallana goes back to the so coast, but not to Southampton. Did you see that? No, he's gone to Brighton. Really Yep cont Brighton Day announced him today across social media, looking quite snazzy in the blue shirt and speaking of blue and white shirts, one of the most experienced, if not may be the best centre-half in the world heads for Zenit Saint Petersburg. Also bid farewell to Dejean Lavin Andrew. So there we are speaking, of Liverpool. JJ, they're ordinary. Season's just shy of It's what was once a record-breaking pace. In terms of points still on a high note, those they'd beat. Newcastle have much say about that Jay did I. Do have to mention Jordan Henderson winning the FW a player of the year. Football. Writers Guess I don't know that. Look. I'm not going to get hysterical about it like we make a big deal out of a war. A lot of people got hysterical about it. Well, here's what I'll say without again without getting hysterical I will never agree with this. I'll never really understand it to be quite frank. I! I would also go so far as to say it of cheapens the award for me Believable, but you know like. That meant to be expanded to you. A leader or captain of the best team in the League to me is not. It's just not enough to be considered. The best like this is an award for the best player in the League. And Yeah, he's not. He's just not. He's not the best player on. This is not the best baron team I would at in March or February March direction when we start thinking about these things. I. I would have had Saudi-omani. I would have had Trent Alexander Arnold definitely. But I think what solidified. This was a number things and we'll get to one of the things in the mail bag, but when Fabio Beano got injured. It was a huge worry for Liverpool fans that wheels were going to come off somewhat at Henderson slotted into his position and led the team from there. And in many senses, there's a sentiment as someone pointed out to me on twitter about this award, and it's a sentiment. We saw in the player of the Year award in two thousand and two thousand nine when Ryan Giggs at thirty five. and. Only starting only completing twelve ninety twelve games of the full ninety, he got the award, and it felt at that time with gigs. It was like a lifetime achievement award and I feel as if Henderson come so far. As a player. In terms of nearly being let go by Brendan Rodgers to go to Fulham. Liverpool in terms of the constant criticism. He's got throughout his career. I think that was played a huge part in this and I'll deal with the other parents in the mailbox. Then I'll just have to change the way that I look at this award. I can't like if that's how it is and I can't. Then people just have to stop looking at it as in the league. As well, and there's some obvious things to this and we'll get into that in the mailbox. Asked this question about that, okay. Let's see. I, guess to wrap on this we will. I mean we would be doing the people speaking of awards a major disservice. Jj, if we didn't wrap up the season probably next week with our devan links which we do at the end of every criminally season. They're going to be a little bit little bit different, little little bit more on the low budge. I would say as opposed to the grand affair that you are typically treated too well. I've canceled. Billy Crystal, oh no, no, no every year. You Billy crystals like your go-to. It's. Not were shopping in like the Andy. Dick I'll. Know terms of hosts this. Oh yeah, but yeah. We'll have our every year. We do like this a fun award show at the end of the season, so we'll probably have that next week. and. Then I guess to wrap before that like what i. t's that the start was just your your final thoughts on the season like I. I hated it. for for a few reasons one. The title race was was kind of over in like November. the Var debates were exhausting. And infuriating, they were not fun. the impact of course of the corona virus. On the season. Empty stadiums like those will be the images that that will that will last. That will define the season are empty stadiums. I mean it was just it was so depressing. And then like I said, before I was trying to wipe bias cleaned from this conversation, but I will say this with with regards to Tottenham Ben, fishing six. It doesn't like it bothers me. I want them to be better. I want them to finish top four, but it doesn't bother me in that like I. Don't expect it. I. Know that I know what Tottenham are and I know that they're not going to be a top fourteen rear. It's not even that obviously a manager that I love and Mercy Pochettino lost his job. But the Josie Marino stuff much like vare became for me so exhausting and so fun sucking from the season, and not even just talking about you like our arguments, although you, my friend are our prime suspect number one but I'm also talking about just like going on twitter after a big tottenham win, and just seeing other Tottenham fans and other guys who host podcast who? are refusing to allow Tottenham other Tottenham supporters to enjoy it like beating Manchester City beating arsenal hammering lester at the end of the season like. Going on twitter after these games, and it was just like people to angry about their style of play to enjoy these winds, and like I'm not saying that they're not entitled to their opinion, but I am saying that it certainly sucks the fun. Right out of what should be big fun moments. So like that whole thing I i. don't think I was ever truly I knew. I know what Marino brings to club, but until he's your manager. You don't fully know what it's going to be like and the way the fan base was polarized around him it really it was. It was not enjoyable. It was not enjoyable. You recounting how you haven't enjoyed. This season is really worse than than anything. I've heard this. You are my God seriously. You said you wouldn't start whining and you. You've started wining winding. I don't think this is whining. Yours a lot of people that feel this way that this was not. This was not A. Non Liverpool fans will look back on funds. Well, I thought we were going to just take it as read that we wouldn't talk about our clubs, so I'm not gonNA mention radio thing was too big of a story line for that not to be mentioned as a that was one of the major storylines of the season him coming back league. So! I think the thing for me Andrew was that? Those below Liverpool city, they struggled as we predicted, but ultimately the old the money. Our I suppose at this point we can call Chelsea will money away the old money teams. Did it again. They get the seat at the Big Table and the kind of. I guess outsider's. We were hoping for in woes. And in Leicester Laterally Sheffield United. Make It. That's one of the kind of one of the disappointing ends to the season for me to be honest with you outside of my obvious joy at bridging a thirty year and look I'm not trying to temper your joy, but I would think that this was not like with the pandemic impact like this was not the way you. You envisioned a full enfield singing. You'll never walk alone. and. It's it's. At that moment I've adopted our manager stance on this watt. Can you do were in it now? The reality? I know but I'm just saying when you envision the stuff in your head. This like it just didn't go the way anybody who had planned. Look the that they could have been worse. The fact that they finished the season and there were no serious illnesses. you know the it seemed like they did the right things to ensure players, safety managers and staff member safety, which was what was most important. We got the end of the season that we for a long period of time didn't know we were going to get so small blessings like. As a win for the season before we move on. one thing I didn't envision was. I could have envisioned? Jurgen KLOPP, winning the anime manager of the Year award which he did I. Never thought I'd hear. Sir Alex Ferguson talk like this yoga and fantasy, a speak of it ninety to sixteen years and the championship with up to thirty years. Since winning that week. Incredible! No really started with his performance wavy over your team reserves standing your personality when rate through the whole club. I think it was a modest modest performance. I'll forgive you for wake me up to half past seen the morning to tell me when the week. Thank you? But enemy. You celebrate his. well-done. Jurgen KLOPP. Drunk dialed Sir Alex Ferguson. That's amazing. It's incredible. That's pretty cool I should tell you also. I went back today actually and next week during the doubling episode I went back and listened to and recorded down all of the predictions that we made prior to the season, oh. Boy, let me say. Some of the are horrified Oh. It's just what I remember with fondness. Do and you're remembering wrong? To be both of us, but you are remembering incorrectly. Love things right friend. I in I prize then so. That's the premier league. Like I even though I say that I'm upset that it's that it was a season I hated on still genuinely upset that it's over because it's the thing to look forward to especially since the restart every single day, it felt like Let's see Jj, so that is ended analysts back. The tournament continues. Talking about some of the teams that have now won in the round of sixteen and are into the quarter-finals. Orlando City Philadelphia NYC, AFC. Sporting Kansas City all into the quarterfinals. A couple of things I wanted to mention on this. We I've said this. I said this earlier in the tournament. I will say it again now. We are the first to make fun of MLS. Goalkeeping is bad, so how dare us not mentioned it when it has good Andre Blake is continued to be a star for the Union looks like he has refound that level. That had him as goalkeeper the season a few years ago. And in a losing effort. For Vancouver, the performance from their third string keeper incredible was. Thomas Hassall was unbelievable. Speak as a sitting out, not all of these were on target Sporting Kansas City took thirty six shots and did not score. They ended up winning on penalties. Even penalties though assault saved a penalty sort of the saves. He made it was it was amazing. The this guy was third string. Just, like a week ago. So delivered back to back shutouts four Vancouver since he came on. And did all he could to try to get through to the quarter-finals, but it was just not quite enough as they do. Go out on penalties, but Unbelievable stuff in a position that we don't always heap praise on in this league I. It's interesting. You mentioned goalkeepers because in last night's key game, the eastern battle between NYC AFC in Toronto which NYC AFC away as fairly I would say. Very convincing winning actually F-, at least three of the four goals. The goalkeeper Vesa Barak or Shawn Johnson got touch on. At least. Put I actually want to heap praise on NYC AFC. Also go back to a familiar theme so the first goal Andrew Ten or home with this lovely across the body pass to Medina who buries it on a restaurant Bar, the second goal brilliant ball morale is probably the ball of the campaign of of this whole tournament. The MLS is returning to cope. Tournament were kicked the ball over his head into the past of. Of. CAST. Lantos who cuts inside finishes well, and the third goal is the goal that I know you're GonNa roll your eyes at Bud for all you Michael Bradley haters out there. He gives away a pass in the center of the. Park Straight to an NYC AFC midfielder. The ball gets spun out to McKay Stephen. Who crosses it in and guess WAAS. Michael Bradley isn't alert. He's not tracking Maxxie. Morales who breezes in and acres of space, and Fires Home Double Michael Bradley Shame Alert Not a proud moment for the Michael Bradley Fan Club. No, not a problem for us who've even defended him look, we gotta take our. You know. We gotta take the hits Andrew. We defend them in the good days we got. We got a call him out in the. Yeah! That was like you said probably was the Marquis Game Great Win for NYC, AFC, just funny. How like perception of team can change so quickly in a tournament structure? Because I mean they really had I mean let's be honest. Their group stage was. It's not what we know them to be they they underachieved. They barely got through by the skin of their teeth, and then they go. Go Out, and they play like that against Toronto team that we thought were equipped to win. This thing like, but doesn't doesn't show you both tournaments, especially two thousand fourteen tournaments, where you can be bad and just you just hope you're not the worst of the bag you can sneak in right. And they and they snuck in and look. They've got Medina maxine. Morale is an Hebert. Flick on the third goal of the second goal was awesome so. Look. They can no role on anyone who thinks they aren't in with a show to win. The whole thing is is wrong and it's. We should say Toronto tough break for them to lose AOL Canola. Given the fruitful in then I mean he had been pro of all the guys. That I've seen so far in this tournament. I don't know if I've enjoyed watching anyone more than him. The next I wanNA hear from. That guy is declaring for the US men's national team. And like in the end it's funny. In the beginning we talked about Josie Altidore, and you know the hope for Toronto that he his form would kind of be like ready for him to make an impact as Toronto to make their push win this thing. And unfortunately he never got on the field until they were down two nil. With just thirty five minutes to go in the game so like he never even really had a chance to make an impact so I. Guess you know whatever whatever his fitness level was it just? Wasn't quite. Just wasn't ready to go I thought once they got to the knockout stage. We'd see more especially with canola, not playing. But. That's a tough break for Toronto Seattle IFC tonight. bombed that we won't have a chance to break that down because The way. The formidable AFC has been in without. Villa is sensational in attack, and Seattle is just that constant. especially in this kind of format. JJ With the tournament we. Almost prophetic I think the way the question was posed brilliantly prior to the tournament about whether or not a bad showing in this tournament, which we at the time were sure exactly how seriously to take it if that would be enough to get, someone fired and you and I. We agreed that no probably not, but we didn't see it. Wouldn't. We said it shouldn't okay right? That's fair. We said it's legitimate to to have it. Be a strike on someone's record, but it shouldn't in itself. Be Enough to get. Someone fired however. Landing headed FC would beg to differ frank the board. I saw the headline I like. I don't know for some reason I was. I was shocked and Atlanta. Fans would probably tell you. You shouldn't have been but I. Just didn't I. Don't know I just did not expect one of the stories to come out of this term. It would be a manager losing his job after a bad performance I. Honestly if I was to pick three managers that I felt were on the hot seat. I would have picked either. I think. Sav racy. Are Ronnie Jaya as as on a medium like Oh. Yeah, yeah, on a warm sea been there for a week. Yeah, I know, but the season had started so badly on. You know what they? Are Got your manager, my team I'd be horrified. Alright, dare on lukewarm seats. Okay, but I definitely felt that Chris Armas on facto bore were on pretty hot seats. Going into it now I didn't think there should be fired based on this ad hoc tournament that was dreamed up very very quickly so quickly that they couldn't even get a good name. But here's my here's why I felt bad and I felt like there was ominous signs way before this tournament. For frantour Griffin. Lael he sent us a dam for the MAILBAG. I'm going to read it now. Either of you shocked by divorce firing, and is it unreasonable to look at his time in Atlanta as the phone experiment? That was just never meant to be now. I'm not making fun of you Griffin, but you've kind of stumbled on it there. It wasn't fun. That is the whole point this. Franchise this whole buzz around the five stripes and everything they've done almost since that very first season has been about attacking swashbuckling football. And Frank brought in a more professorial style, a slower tempo Joseph Martinez, not been in the in the lineup, not good al-irani leaving not good, but you still have Copa Sudamerica Copa Libertadores, experience and some exciting South American talents in their in Barco and pity Martinez and he couldn't get it to work, and this is the team who is so a franchise water that is really image conscious. They really understand that the stands are full because they're exciting, and they've been the most exciting team in the League for so long I once. That's gone on a managers in. That's not producing that way keeping them. Them. Why would you keep him? I suppose you're right. I mean Darren ill spoke to Doug Rogerson, the Atlanta Journal Constitution. He said we want to be a top club and play in a way that's exciting dynamic and winning trophies like they will not accept your we have. We now know they will not accept another style of play. There's no what they are going to be for better or for worse, and and the only reason I was at least a little bit conflicted on. It is because okay, so they lost regained. They did not score a goal. That is obviously concerning. It's not there. Now on the other side of it like. It's simply just not fair to to not include in that. The gigantic asked risk of the fact that they were missing Joseph Martinez, but then on the other side of it. You're like well. You've had months to prepare for that reality. It's not like he got hurt in training. Right before the tournament got hurt when the season began months ago. So like I I. Don't WanNa give debris. Debris too much of a pass on that because he should have been able to have his team prepared to play without him, but then like the other part of this that you keep going back and forth is okay well. Let's look at the bigger picture with debris. And what he did there, they did win. the US Open Cup and they did win. That can't be honest, Cup? But then on the other side of that the Kepi Owners, Cup is only a a one game scenario and it was. And it was America's team that was still in their preseason. And the US Open Cup. I mean we say this all the time? Not Every cup run is is created equal. Look at the teams that Atlanta played in route to winning that tournament. Okay like that's that's part of it. They beat two. Teams and the NFL's teams that they played the best that they played with Minnesota United F c four in the West. No other MLS opponent of theirs even made the playoffs last season so like you almost look at that set of opponents and say well. If Atlanta didn't win, it would have been an embarrassment so like. Ultimately I I do feel like it's hard to get rid of a manager so quickly especially when he's missing his best player and the situation being as weird as it is with these guys playing in a tournament that was created overnight. But you kind of look at some of these things, and you're like well all right like I'm Kinda I, get it. I'm Kinda Kinda good with. There's only one manager to dot has to come in now. Atlanta have settled their stole. Their DNA is attacking swashbuckling football. You score for we the score five. Kevin Keegan. Coach of Newcastle United's famous. The entertainers from Ninety Five Ninety six twelve points clear of united. You think he would do that. I know you're saying this Kinda tongue-in-cheek, but I think if it was ten years if it was ten years ago when he was younger man I think I. Think Kevin Keegan be the man Dr Neil's with do it. He's an Englishman. He knows the sensibilities. It won't happen now, but I'm telling you the next manager. Whoever he is. They may go back to a South American manager, but it's going to be. crash-bang-wallop exciting football that is the demand. It's just funny. Allies make the thin line of history. And just like how the balanced can swing one way or another, like frank devore's time at Atlanta will obviously not remembered fondly, but just like. Go back JJ to last October. TORONTO AND ATLANTA IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE FINAL TO GET TO MLS Cup like Atlanta are there there are the final four and they score in the fourth minute, and then just a few minutes later they win a penalty. Joseph. Martinez has it saved. And then Toronto scored minutes after that and wound up winning on the daily on goal to one like speaking of Martinez Converts that penalty and they're up to nil after ten minutes. They're not losing that game. I I. Just don't. Like. Under speaking of speaking of my kinks was not not one of those little hop penalties that he missed. Yes, I think yes, it was yeah. Why do you guys do it? Why do they? Why don't know? So yeah peace peace. Frank the board. Let's see a couple other stories. Jj, we did mention this at the top. We should give it a little more mentioned now. Congratulations to the Houston Dash on their win in the end of yourself, Challenge Cup a team that had never made the playoffs. They go in and they do this to nils your final. They scored early and they scored late. Sophie Schmidt with penalty in the fifth and then Shea groom with a goal to seal it rounding the keeper in stoppage, time and listen. Nair, no less right, yeah. The. Keeper the keeper. Rachel daily named tournament MVP She taught at the end of this about how she was just like running on empty that this took everything out of this team to get to this point and she talked about the circle. Is What this kind of circle where they couldn't be broken? Nobody had better heart or better. Than them and they know it's easy to say that when you win, but they certainly did because i. don't think anyone had them down favorites. When the tournament started, it was one of those finals though. It's like a thousand degrees. And there's wound team who are kind of. I suppose. I never at any point in this game Houston are taught. Chicago would score just never. And and so it turned out to be the case and Chicago how to Sam Kerr sized hole in that frontline. Yes And you know it's like Houston were all throughout. They talked about the style that they wanted to play was just like willing to concede possession that was not a statistic that they were ever going to be out to to succeed in and then Kinda smash and grab like when they get their chances convert plan to counter-attack. Carry them all the way through, and now they're their champions in this I guess this season on dailies. Brilliant at that Andrew such good passer of the ball. She can release her teammates. You know I think it was her past that release Shea groom. But Chicago looked short and ideas on how many times they hit balls into the box. Hope and Julie Arts would crash on home. It was rudimentary stuff. Yeah, so congratulations to the dash on their win in the Challenge Cup. One other note here before we get to the mail bag Jj Kilian Bob, a suffered a sprained ankle, initially it was. It seemed like it was unsure to what his status would be moving forward. They have now said that there was ligament damage that was sustained unbelievable. He's GonNa Miss. Their champions up against Alonzo on August twelfth and his situation beyond that is unknown well. I guess it depends bad. Sprain is I. Reckon they will have him in the Wind Rooney style. World Cup two thousand six oxygen tent, whatever doing whatever they can to get them back in the field, but it's. It's just been there. Look and yeah, that's incredible. Look for just wonder if this club like the. They signed a deal with the devil. You. Don't want me answer that question. Like It's funny like of all the clubs that like this. This thing continues to happen, too, because it's then and because of you know just kind of like how they're built. Nobody is nobody has any sympathy for them. It's just hilarious. Oh, I mean hilarious. I don't know. Killing and I feel bad for him. I like killing unhappy. Yeah, yeah, sure I do. Tournament is not better off with guys like him, not playing. So you want the best players out there in this tournament, but it's just like it's always ps, and isn't it funny to Jj how the thing about? PSG So like all these other leagues are continuing. Francis the one league that stopped play. We're not going to continue our league. So what's the one thing? Everyone is assuming going into the Champions League as he gets ready to resume. Oh, well at least psg, will finally be healthy in Champions League play, and then these the one game in the COP, and he sprays his ankle, and now he's GonNa. Miss the match against Atalanta in pop with the remainder of the season. It's just like it's. If. You're a PSG fan I mean yeah, you're loving life because you're winning league titles every year, but as we've always said this club and this ownership. They did not come in to win league. And KUKHTA fraunces all right. They came into win champions leaks and it's. It's not going to be easy, I mean. Do you view them as one of the favorites before? If I'm telling you, they don't have killing him by I. Don't know if you feel that way. Any further so I saw that I was like you have got to be kidding me unbelievable. That's get to the mail before I say something that will have the march of the the dark army of PSG fans towards this podcast. This is one of the marquee teams in the world, and we can't talk about them because you can't trust yourself like that. That's not right you need to have been on. The PSG found boys before it's not fun. It would be professional. Is what the right I don't know what they said. It was probably hateful hurtful. Be Professional. All right. We're going to mail bag. Yeah, the world upside pod gmail.com, DOT COM at you. A soccer ball and twitter caught offside ESPN on instagram going follow us there and also leave us a review on I tunes. We had such a lovely review. Recently. I sent it to you and one part of the review says it's grit. There's a podcast finally. That doesn't talk down to Americans and I thought no. We don't talk down to Americans, but I talked to one American in particular. Are you sure you're listening to the podcast? Because I feel talk down to on a weekly basis. Mahesh sends us a question. Explain Jordan Henderson to me. I'm going to need your help here under I'm completely missing the Mystique. If possible drawn NBA or NFL, parallel love the pod. I'm an ER doctor from Texas and you guys kept me going in my darkest days. Well Sir? You've kept everyone else going and please all all the praise goes to you Mahesh not to Don't worry about us. We're just buffoons who've got microphones so I do have a comparison well. Let me let me do a quick the the mystique. One thing that we glossed over when we're talking about hundreds and earlier is he's English. Okay. He's the captain of the primarily champions. He is this kind of embodiment of the much-maligned English player who has been too many people exposed by this influx of foreigners over the past twenty five thirty years, and he's got this mystical story. That he was nearly got rid of PSORIATIC. Ferguson criticized his running gay. He went to Liverpool struggled. He picked himself up and there's an Englishman on the podium. Lift in the European champions. League and there's an Englishman on the podium, lifting the Premier League, and that is the mystique that I think klay the big part in in the football writers of England the four hundred or so, who got to vote on this is so then the award is for your favorite storyline of the season. It's not the best player in the League. Again he's. He's just can't possibly think that they still influence people. Andrew Come Well you're right. I it must. There must be some reason. He won and do your your American powder so. Look, no comparisons going to be perfect here, but the one I was thinking of was like I was thinking of the two thousand four I believe it was or two thousand five Detroit. Pistons and when they beat the Lakers. Like. I guess I would say. The comparison is Chauncey billips. Who had he did now? This not happened, but had he been named MVP of the League that season, but he wasn't like. He may not have been the best player on his own team. Ben Wallace Richard Hamilton. But chauncey BILLUPS was the. Leader of the team that turned out to be the best team in the NBA, and he was a very good player. Like Jordan Henderson is a very good player. Nobody would look at Jordan, Henderson and say he's the best player in the League. Nobody looked CIANCI BILLUPS and said he was the best player in the league, but he was the leader of the best team, so that's really. Like again. It didn't actually happen. Had It happened? That's one I could think of, but I don't know if I can actually think of an example I think people here hold mvp just. To its literal definition, and and we'd see now the F.. W. A., do not so there's I think our American brains are having a hard time. Like jiving with this decision. Kent Clark thoughts on CONCACAF. World. Cup, qualifying format announced today, so let me go through this quickly. Thank you to the Grit Doug McIntyre for making this very easy to understand and and it is pretty easy to understand, and you can give me your thoughts afterwards. Andrew under the new format nations currently ranked six to thirty five will be drawn into six groups of five in a seeded draw next month without Salvador Canada Corso Panama, Haiti Trinidad and Tobago seated. Each group will compete in. In a round single round robin, a four matches per nation in this October and November, twenty twenty window group winners would advance to a home and home total gold second round next March and the second round winners will advance to the octagonal, and this is where we come in the top three teams in the tag qualify for the twenty twenty two World Cup in court, Tar and fourth-place nation advances to the Intercontinental Playoff in June twenty twenty two. That's it. We don't get involved onto. The final. Way, it's important I mean you kind of just said quickly. American brains are very conditioned to know only one admiral, and that is the hexagonal. We no longer have the hexagonal. There's no more people at least for this qualification cycle, right? It's eight teams that will be the octogonal like you said will be in that final round and give it to the people one more time. How many get through automatically from that? From the. Hold on us. So. How. Many people get through the the second round dessert a note to qualify once you get to the Oct-, which is what the US are already in a WHO is it? It's already qualified. It's the US for the for the final round us. Mexico Costa Rica Honduras. Forgetting We're forgetting one team Panama or did you say that there are seated team? Jamaica Jamaica. Excuse me yes, Jamaica's the one. Right so three, the top three in the octogonal qualify automatically in the fourth go into a playoff yet so the top teams in the tag, no qualify directly for the twenty twenty two World Cup and the fourth place nation advances to the Internet. Intercontinental Playoff June twenty, twenty two. But I think really the big point to this Andrew is that. Everybody else. The Nation's ranked six to thirty five. They've got a long way. And Lots of games to play. Whereas we're kind at the end. Point ourselves. In Mexico in those other teams. You mentioned yeah. Straight straight into the final round. Basically is it so? What the other system was! Yes in that. It's not solely dependent on your for world ranking. You actually have the ability to play your way into. The World Cup which is I think really how it should be. We've always talked about how the people world rankings are flawed. So yeah I do like us more I almost wonder. If this, if this accessible if they'll just continue with this, I think the problem with it is again that the powerhouse teams are skipping the Kyu. Whereas in the old system whether it was a formality are not at the beginning. You still have to go through the qualifying process. Mexico and the US in particular. Skip right the way to the end, but as we've seen, that may not be a guarantee of anything. Ryan, main? My friend Victor and I have been huge fans of Wick Wickham Wanderers since two thousand thirteen, when there were when they were in lead to unwanted to support team. That wasn't one of the top sides. We decided on Wickham Wanderers. Due to their heritage and history of the club join the start of the two thousand thirteen fourteen campaign. We were thrilled to watch them escape falling out of the Football League by finishing twenty second in the thirteen fourteen campaign on the final day of the League two season. With the chair boys nickname and the choirboys nickname and degrade escape. After that we were hooked. I've been lifelong soccer fan. especially. The Colorado rapids on have played soccer ever since I'm five years of age, my friend victor hit it soccer until introduced him to Wickham through the popular video game FIFA. Led US becoming loyal fans who always keep track of Wickham Rhonda's Transfers Games. It even led him to be the best man at my wedding. I'm writing to you both in the chance of hopefully hearing, you and Jay Talk About Wickham earning promotion to the championship this year to the playoffs after only being promoted to league one after two thousand seventeen twenty eight campaign, we were even favorites to be relegated and finish twenty third this evening. This season, hopefully our new US owner from New Orleans. Louisiana I didn't know about that will keep us on track, and hopefully will keep us in the championship for years to come. Yes, kind of an amazing story Because they were supposed to go down and even when they played Oxford in the final Oxford were like this passing team this team with these amazing Passing ratings and stats in terms of chances created and Wickham warlike seventeenth in league, one in terms of chances created in terms of passing in terms of passes completed, and yet they got it done on the final day so so well done to them. Yeah, well. I mean they're manager. Gareth Ainsworth is a folk hero. Roseanne worker he's and he's also the answer to an incredible Trivia. Question Right now, which one who is currently the longest tenured manager of anybody in the top four rungs of English football, Gareth. Were and you believe that he's been their manager? Since two thousand twelve nobody anywhere has been manager of their club longer. Is that that's? What was his name? What was his name at Bristol City? That recently left I thought he would have been up there, but that's that's amazing. That's absolutely amazing on the also looks like he should be in an eighties a band, but will kind of is right. He start. He's in a band or he i. don't know if he's still is or was with two of his former teammates when he was a Wimbledon. Ghetto and they were in a band. I'll find the name of it while you're doing your next one, but he's like Oh. Yeah, he like he's. He looks the part because he is the part like he is a rock, a rock and roll guy did not know that. Missing. Dave talks. Hey goes leads found. It has been a remarkable season for the LA. The loss of Big Jack Charlton was tough, but almost thank jj first heartfelt expression of just what he meant to him personally, I was taking my morning Ron and as my tradition I, listen to your podcast while doing so no, JJ tears running down my face my face while it's running through my neighborhood, luckily, at six am GNOME was around to. To see the strange sight as your voice broke a bit I, lost it. Your words of Lawson celebration that Charleston's life hit me hired I appreciated. It very much can't imagine anyone that meant so much. Double thing than in Ireland, neither can I a rare man indeed I'm sure he's looking down approvingly as his beloved Leeds United finally returned to the primarily after sixteen long years good Lord I watch. My Cubs Win A. A world series before it happened, but it happened it did and I've been giddy all day thinking about it. Of course I'm stressing out over how we're going to stay up, but I guess I need to relax and take it one step at a time. Thank you for letting me take few moments to share with you. gents keep up the great work. It's been a rough year as a healthcare worker but I'm pretty. Pretty sure I see. Light at the end of this tunnel will make their together. Thank you both for providing some fun. Something familiar during trying times soccer talk has been my escape and allegiance remember has certainly buoyed the spurts well all the best Dave. Thank you so much for that and a thank you for everything you do as a healthcare worker and strange they. I Find Andrew to be a very dark and. An horrifying figure that rarely fills me with hope, but I'm glad that you find both of us together a shining beacon in the darkness. My supposed to respond to that. No, it was I was way too harsh on you. I take it back. I should say mentioning leads in the championship Cardiff. Hosted Fulham in the first leg of their semi-final, Fulham one two nil, so all the US. Fulham fans will be very happy about that and obviously coming in stoppage time, which that's right and not Korea Kego. Jet At could be the key. They bring it back. To the cottage, and then Swansea and Brentford in the first leg of their yesterday Andrea scored a goal. That's probably up there for the PUSKAS. People should look that up an amazing goal. MAZING BUILD UP A chip back to him, and he volleys it into the top corner, so swansea have a slender lead as they go back to London and to Griffin Park, which will host the second leg of that on Wednesday at two forty five PM, so Wednesday seven, twenty nine to forty five pm and Fulham will have the return leg against Cardiff on Thursday seven which is the thirtieth of July two forty five pm as well in those kickoffs. By the way I found it I. Don't know if this is still the band that he was in with his former teammates, but the cold-blooded hearts Gareth Ainsworth is. Manager of Wickham and he's also the lead singer of the cold-blooded hearts so look. I'll find some of their music here for you. That's awesome and finally Nicholas Welter with the new Charlotte FC logo being released today. What do you think of it I'm a bit of a logo fanatic to death thesis on Sports Logos in College, and I think it's pretty okay, not the best, but it's not terrible. It sort of continues with this circle trend. That's going on in sports. I don't think it's nice. I can't think of anything more bland. I don't know what the crown represents. Maybe someone can tell me what the krone means right now Charlotte is the Queen City. Okay so that's and I believe or dots on the crown represent the four wards of the city. All right good. Would you rather just continue to not know? Note that's good and they minted written on us which. I think that has to do with their so I was reading up on it. Of course, you were ignored. How dare you prepare for podcast? Yeah! What about you? But I, I think the minted is because of like Charlotte's like financial history. It's like Oh, it's a real financial epicenter with like. Financial companies in such, so Oh grit, so we've got royalty. we've got. Finance in it, that's the. Two things that are not gonNa Make Me Yeah, love it too much, so there we go. That's the end of the mailbag bump and I suppose the end of the podcast is well. This was This was a big one as you would expect the final week of the season to be Let's it's over, but like it's funny. The new season starts September Twelfth Night We're going to be. Doing like so next week. Lanes and then stay tuned because in two weeks are season preview. Yeah. That's just the passage of time. What are we supposed to do? About like I was thinking like so tottenham finishing six. They don't have to worry about Europa League qualifying, but had they finished seventh, and then Chelsea won the league. They would've qualified or Chelsea when the FA Cup. If that happens, then taught would've. Had to go through Europa qualification like. Has that started already? Normally that starts in early July and obviously mysterious different, but like I gotta believe it soon. Crazy. I can't wait for you to actually be drawn against top some. That will happen like those are the teams that play in the Europa League I. Get it. We know how this works the way you're talking down on this competition. It's not a good look for you you. You are the elitist punk that you claim to despise in this sport. You're you're. Looking at you need to do some real soul-searching. The season's over I think you need to think about all the things that you've done this year and how? You can be a better person as we do this again next season o F. I'm looking up all the teams I mentioned earlier. FC Alania Vladikavkaz ooh. They've got an amazing amazing craft all. Out there who thinks JJ? Is this man of the people that soccer's for everyone. I hope you're listening to what he's doing right now. He does now everyone. He wants this League of this European League of Titans, he's now. That's what he is about. Not Catching a glimpse of the real guy. Are I just got bored of your Tottenham. Talk in the middle of the PODCAST and decided to play spoiler I apologize. If you think accept that apology. You're out of your mind. This was fun man. We'll do it again next week. Of course, we'll have a lot of analysis back stuff to talk about fundings where we officially look back on the season, so the season the primarily season may be over, but this podcast as we always say never ever ardor the order, the Champagne Andrew and the canapes. The what? Canapes for the reception. What's A canape small things that you eat a reception before an awards cermony I? Mean unless you're talking about pigs in a blanket on. Lost, I'm sorry. Really are Bruce. Hey, you I say. Gee, later bombard. Took care. Listening to. US caught offside. Sucker podcast. GEICO gets you access to licensed agents. Twenty, four seven, which means that Geico is always there for you. 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Europe's Waiting Game Continues

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Europe's Waiting Game Continues

"Welcome in Monday's edition of ESPN AFC here on ESPN plus on Down Thomas Abbey Moreno. Hercules Gomez stevie nickel. Donna Julianne the Wrong Guy Mark. Coty all joining me later on in the show. We'll start with Solomon Kalou. He's got himself into all sorts of trouble. Made the brilliant decision to livestream himself in the heart of the lane locker room and not only that it showed him fist. Pumping is teammates trashing at tasks breaking a lot of the protocol that the Bundesliga introduced since he has been suspended. This is what the Hertha Berlin. Gm Michael Pretenses say Soloman. Kalou with video was pulled her through a great deal of damage but above all in the current discussion within society about the return of wounded Sega matches and the role of professional footballers given the impression that individual players. Don't take the corona virus subject. Seriously let's welcome to the show cabin jobs obviously every week. Do you corona idiots of the week you recorded your podcast too early to have Salomon. Kalou is your king. That's right. We won't be sending him the Coveted cove immediate award. This week although I think we might WANNA maybe we'll we'll we'll we'll discuss renaming the Salomon Kalou award. There's so many things that make this worse one is obviously he wasn't filmed doing it. He he filmed himself doing it. Which makes you realize that you really has. No understanding of what's at stake here The fact that on Wednesday Angela Merkel the German chancellor and her government. They're expected to green light or not green light as the case may be the return of football in Germany and people have worked extremely hard to try to make this happen behind closed. Doors the fact that he's entirely nonchalant even as as people around him go and tell him. Look Erase that. Turn it off. The managed thirty five years old and based on today's evidence seems to have the mentality of the twelve year old and not very well behaved twelve year old either. It's a consensual. Joe's isn't it because as excited as positive we are about the return of Football Veasley in Germany. We have seen incidents. We saw England with Carl Walker. Sort as well Jack. Greeley's inevitably there are GonNa be some outlines in this. Yes you're right although Kalou taken into another level let's be honest. There's some this thing that you could do in your own home. And you could break the rules and the social distancing that kind of stuff but do any like this in your dressing room E. R. Your club in front of everybody including your medical staff who were taking some tests when you went over and crushed one of your teammates taking us having these tests done. It's just completely stupid and I mean someone. Kalu is a waste of time for her to bed. It's been a waste of money is what he's played five games. This season is thirty five Gob said. And surely this is. This is one of the most disgraceful things that we've seen so far in this crisis. Okay let's turn the page. Because I was GONNA start the show with a real positive vibe. Because we've heard when I've gone to calve in the past. You gotta see what happens. See this and that but Gab. On Your podcast today. I thought you sounded more optimistic than you ever had. Especially when you look at the figures that we solar of course. Germany releasing today. What ten positives out of seventeen hundred tests? Yeah and this is of course. Ten positives out of a seven hundred twenty four tests. It's about forty forty nine or fifty per club. These include both players obviously backroom staff. You know the people who need to stay healthy and need to stay virus free and before you know the really more hardcore more stringent quarantine warranty and conditions Stepped in and we know that three of those are obviously the the three clone. This concerns the the first division and second division clubs. It was a lot of optimism and saying that you know these guys are already generally healthy. And there's only a few things that we need to do to to to go and monitor the situation and have them play safely This was hugely encouraging. And but of course that was before the Kalou video came out. Let's just hope it doesn't jeopardize everything and brought fun duly influence. The government's decision of course shows you got people saying okay. What happens if they're positive? Cash only then everything has got to shut down. This is kind of proves the contrary to that. Yes and also the way. They've handled the case in in Cologne where those three the two players and the the backroom staff member who then when into self-isolation but not the rest of the squadron not the rest of the little groups in which two players training with and clearly testing the other members of the club. And no one. Nobody has this positive so they've they've clearly but listen they have this. I mean yeah okay. Sometimes you might have someone who's positive maybe not showing any symptoms maybe showing some some and you could always find a way. But they've got this under control the holiday before anybody else for the rest of the population. The heavy for their football players. They have protocols in place. The discipline the organize the everything that they're not in the permeating for example. So of course you would expect them to be the first one to resume football and he will be it will be kind of normal and it will be expected and fair but even then you're not competing hundred percent. Sure and I said you know. We think they will give the green light on Wednesday but there's also a possibility that she waits another week. Maybe maybe another two weeks but then already there. Nobody nobody else in Europe is ready. It's going to happen though. Gab. Isn't it. We're going to see on this thing action this month. I mean I'm leaning to the fact that it's going to be more yes than no at this stage like I told you. I was all positive and cheery this morning when I did the podcast and not just about Germany but more cautiously about Spain Italy too. I think it's leaning in that direction that that number that ten out of seventeen twenty four gives you a really tremendous baseline a to start with the tells you yes if you take the right precautions we can. We can do it. It also tells you that Joe said having the players you know not locked up off locked up together but but core gene at home and then coming out to train. The system can work to help. Contain the virus. You know. Now it's up to two whether they can meet the other requirements and that's a decision that of Angela Merkel's pay grade and nobody else. While you mentioned the Premier League Joel Sings very much. Yeah regarding the resumption of play there. Obviously there's this vote on the eighth from the clubs to decide. How are they going to handle the return? Talk of neutral venues have never engaged. You said last week that you are confident they could be action backing the action attending in June. Do you still feel strongly as positive about that considering all the conflicting reports about the club's butting heads at the moment. I don't think there would be primarily in June. I think he would be in July. I think it will come back. Because that's clearly the desire from the government and win the leadership leads in that wind pushes for me. I think it will happen but just just to organize. Now there's just nothing in place. There's no protocol there's all those ideas players taking their own cars to go to a secret neutral venue that they will only know the morning of the game and all those possibilities and all those things in the end there's just nothing concrete and the players. What I think a lot of players are not so keen on going back through early because is all up in the end. They don't have any reassurances about test about what happens if someone is positive like we've seen in Cologne if if there's an issue somewhere why those terms though I don't turn a why this they've got no answers right nine and see the premier league. Give them an answer or answers to the questions that they haven't trust me the other law of questions which doesn't want to play again. I think all of them onto plague and everybody wants to see football again. But if you don't answer the questions that people have especially the players who are you may not set. You won't happen it won't happen. So unless the Premier League starts getting your groove on and got starts getting organized. I feel. We won't see football before July. So Gab considering just rather boon to say again how they seem to have dealt with it well in this seems to be a plan that establishing should see the return of football sooner rather than later. What are the primarily? Just go oh look. They're doing it good over there. Why don't we just do what they're doing? Well it's not that simple. It's a different country. It's a country that's at a different stage in corona virus pandemic. It's a country that has a much better health system. It's a wealthier country. It's a better organized country. There's one hundred one reasons why Germany is ahead. I think you can put some on the government but I agree with Jules. I think in other levels. They've been behind this business with the protocol and the latest is that perhaps on Wednesday they will finally get around to discussing a protocol for training sessions specific on initially approving it for for trading sessions for games. You know rather than all these leaks that we've had I think that's a big factor. Think another big factor is elsewhere. The debate has been much more public in Spain. You can't shop a have your table US up. The guy talks every hour on the hour nearly as well. There's been a lot of public debate in Germany. We've heard question Cypher. Talking not just to Germany's media but to the world's media and answering all these questions here in England the premier league's highest slightly different role. They generally tried to work quietly trying to work behind the scenes and not really say very much as a result. All you've really had these these leaks these fragmented leaks and clubs. Gary Neville Way the issue as well and what that's done is it's I think it's undermined a lot of confidence in people that they can actually get this done and the other thing is you know. It's great obviously. You have to wait for the government to give the green light. But it's much better if you have a plan if you have scenarios in place so that when the government does give the green light you can go to the government say. Hey we want to do these things this way. Is that okay with you rather than sitting there and saying well? There's no point preparing anything until the government gives us the go ahead because as Joel says you lose valuable time. Meanwhile in Italy Vincente Vincenzo. Four and not exactly making many friends. This is the front page of the sport there as dressed as the grim reaper. With a football very much I as a result of him. This is what he talked about. Return of football in Italy. I've I've read strange things but nothing has changed compared to what I've always said about. Full training groups will not resume resume before the eighteenth and now is the time to stop talking about restarting the lead. Gaba of everyone in Italy amongst the ministry. Imagine the Sports Minister. That'd be the driving force to try and get things back. He seems to be completely the opposite. End Yeah you would think so but you know he says well. I'm not the minister for football or for professional football on the minister for all sports from grassroots football to fencing swimming to whatever and I think the good news is that you know. Obviously he's got a saying this but you know he's not the one driving the conversation I think it was non plus a little bit because after the government relaxed certain restrictions on on exercise and different regions interpreted them in a very very lax way and that prompted a different club starting with Bologna and swallow to go back into training which they did today now obviously socially distance training and whatever else and all the other club jumped in and said. Hey let's follow suit and other clubs like this. You know told that superstars around the world. Hey everybody come back. Come back and come training. I think he just wanted to make sure that you know. What's all this momentum? Nothing's really changed and in one sense. He's right in the sense that I think is really the earliest date you can talk about having actual training in groups but you do feel as if the general sense general momentum has shifted the clubs at least believe that there is the possibility of starting again and the government's going to have to to make a decision in the next two weeks. Schools decision made in France last week. Canceling football until September. Joe's I just wanted to get your opinion of what they not President Vladimir Keita had to say. I'm not a politician but stop trying to tell us how to run businesses. The right decision was not taken. It is very hard for the clubs and links in a single plan did not want to restart all they were asking for was to do. So is this an outline? I always think general opinion from most amongst French football. Jill's been mixed really some people now with a bit of hindsight's and it's been almost a week since the decision was taken to stop. The League of the season story realized that maybe that was GONNA be too early. Maybe they could have waited another couple of weeks maybe three weeks and see especially what was happening in other countries because now if Francie the only of the big five leagues not to resume and everybody else does it would be a disaster for French football and for the French in that League for sure one hundred percent. There's no doubt so I think more people now coming out and saying June awas may be actually in hindsight with. Oh i. It was the right decision because he was cleaning deemed. Not Safe Enough and healthy enough to resume. But maybe we could avoid be more and more discussions around there. And Clearly Vladimir Kita the non owner and president that highlighting. The road doubts and amassing. Our New sports minister played in France. And I don't think she entered the very well and certainly. Since the decision was made last week she'd been quite critical on the club that we're not so keen on stopping the season which I think was again wrong from her. So you would see more. People Live Vladimir. Putin is another one in Yuma have some lawsuits towards the French Federation and the French government and things like that yours have half of the league. That was the right decision and the wisest not to take any risk and because he was not safe enough to resume the season to make the right decision a lot more from Gavin Gills. Today on the less of a podcast you can download it now over on the website a lot of speculation about the future of team. Oh verner this is really hard to say. If a move where to become an issue at some point would be more tempted by move abroad the move to by Stevie Echo Don Hutchinson with us discuss. This don't diamant of course former. Liverpool player doesn't fail at team. My van would fit into uragans crop. Side what do you think? Well why would disagree with on team for quite a while now and everything I say. say a top-class play play as a non eka playoff. That left unsigned super-quick. He's got a great attitude could work. I think the trouble is Liverpool. Fans my argue way. Is he going to fit into the eleven? You haven't really tend to road site. He's best players but he might need to. Whenever the nation's is played Saudi-omani is going to be away. Most sellers going to be a way not just thing it gives them more ammunition it gives them more goals and you know going into livable. I can only say that as a positive does he. Get in the starting eleven. Tv Don't you start to get start? Eleven listen team will would be fantastic for Liverpool. Yes three that they have. Raynaud are arguably the best front three in the world. The best team strike is when your heart and and this is not the time until all the things you see and it looks like he's desperate to go and join clubs and Liverpool so he could play anywhere low not frontline. You know one of the things it did. He doesn't think he could. He could play for me. No role what happens when for Newman. For me. No doesn't play. He plays Sala there. That's one thing. Salad is not good that it's net and things together but it still was Liverpool's still make it work so those don't question team could play either white or he could play the right. I'll pay for me no place so I think this is a no brainer of Liverpool can say this guy absolutely get it done all the talk though is about how they won't be as much transfer money around during the summer so then if I was to give you a choice between Kula Valley and see my verner dawn. Who would you go for because the Bali of course it's being linked to Liverpool as well? I mean that's a hell of a decision. I mean I think it Coulda. Bali comes to the door on plays long. Solid Virgil von Dyck. I think you look right. There is anyone better the woman another partnership like it. The best defenders at European part of the Premier League at the moment is mainland. Screener I in my gut feeling is he's going to join pep at Man City and alongside him as Cool Valley thing at twenty eight and he's a great age. He's got good pacey strong as a leader. I think he walked straight into Liverpool's lineup and he makes them harder to be a physical presence. You wouldn't WanNa play against find dyke all cool Bali how on earth as a strike to even think about getting any joy those two so a really tough question to answer but if if you had to push me on it I would probably lean towards being cool valley but you won the title by a million points. Is that really what you need to reinforce on? Well thank so Steve. Probably better equipped than I am. More TAKEMITSU planning goal gets. I think you'RE GONNA win. Titles and you want to Liverpool has to be harder to be you have to go into European you have to have people like Kuna Bali who could lead you into Europe. You can try and go that way. When if you want a clean sheet could've volume van Dyke Robertson and would be non impossible breakdown alison behind them and it would just put fail would imagine into every manager every play that lines against Liverpool thing in or trying to come up with a game plan. How you're actually going to score goals Liverpool's weakness going to be cooler. Bali and Van Dyke and Allison is trying but left three. They would take some big Steve. I know you go get like Don. Obviously but maybe you could chippings this conversation anyway. Team Verno Kula Valley. My goodness listen to wish list. And yes I would. I would wish to have killed a Bali alongside Van Dyke but if you can only have one choice I'm GonNa go with team over. You know I think I think the front three neither a lot more rotation the than the bike lane you know the way Liverpool. Play the way that front free press. He's when they play together. You know eventually is going to catch up with them. They've been unbelievable for the last eighteen months. But you cannot keep up for six seven years. You know you need a break. I think defensively Gomez has done enough to to make be comfortable. He's not cooler Bali. But say what? He's not that far off and so if it's a choice between the two. I'm I'M GONNA edgy. Towards team. Move Elena meanwhile moving onto your boyhood club one of the many. We support dawn talking about new. Also everyone agrees pretty much that partic- no is the man they should get as the coach. What about continue coming in? As one of the big stars this move makes sense to you on one hundred percent the most important man at the moment to try and get through the doors. Latino you have to fuel the owners and the chairman the you all this money beyond junior pump into Newcastle. The first one you have to get right is the manager. Because you get a world class manager an important on a guarantee of plays in the Premier League plays all around Europe will be looking at Newcastle thing. Dot could be a club. I want to join because they go one way. And they're going to go right into that top six and hopefully taught for it reminds me when Kevin Keegan took over in the early ninety s and they have Newcastle's best chairman John All and Newcastle came close in ninety five ninety six and should have won the tile but they were full. I wouldn't say galactic goes but superstar players and they got stronger and stronger than also fell apart. Newcastle need a massive rebuild Katina is not GonNa Win Newcastle Title. On his arm with the current crop applies is not even take them into the top four six. It's GonNa Take Pocchettino to come for. The Dole then continued then. Come in then all of a sudden everyone will take you seriously because at the moment you know it's not done it's just a pipedream. Pocchettino and continue in Newcastle. I am pretty Chal. The best place in the primitive on Europe would want to join Newcastle. If you're a partic- stevie will continue to be at the top of your list. It would be on the list again. It depends on things you know. Clearly of Poetry Tino signs signs on Newcastle. The only thing you know us there is a huge war chest because otherwise poetry. Tino as go nowhere near there and you have to start somewhere and right no continual would be a huge upgrade on anything going forward that Newcastle Hav. So yes. He's on the list he lost on your list. Maybe not but think to get the ball rolling. You know one hundred percent with dawn. The false false move has to be poetry Tino and after that if the monies available. Then there's no question you'll see big name players go into Newcastle once again. Gentlemen as always thank you very much reminder. Espn AFC on your screens. Tomorrow join us. Your home is important. That's why GEICO helps make it easy to save on Homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place. Home is where you build a giant pillow fort in your living room and when people ask why you have a pillow fort in your living room. You say it's for your dog. And when they ask what kind you say chocolate lab and we have a web of lies. That's almost as intricate as the crown molding in Fort Pillow. The GEICO Insurance Agency could help protect the pillow. Soft fortress you call home call Geico and see how easy it is to switch and save on Homeowner's insurance what's that you want another interview from. Hercules Gomez let's face it who wouldn't latest victim Gucci on? Yeah Oh this is what he had to say about that. Infamous fights with latter. He says that if they don't break it up if the team doesn't break this up. When are you going to die? Did he say? Did you get more out of that fight? Yeah we got a lot more. Gooch's a character and to go toe to toe with one of the world's biggest main biggest personalities that moment I think gooch is keeping a close to the vest of what didn't happen but he surely tells a lot of what did happen. I'll do level these stories that have come out and I know you and I know you'll character. I'd imagine that would be a point in which you would reach where you would step up and say maybe that's enough is that fair and that's a position not taking time and time again when talking about Latin and the fact that he said whatever. He said to his teammates with the Galaxy and teammates in the galaxy instead will taken upon themselves in facing slapped on head on when he was in the locker room. Now we just get this to sort of kind of he said she said and we go back into dark corners and talk about Latin while he's not here but there was an opportunity and there was a moment to address to take this head on to take it up to slide down. All right. I'm here. Okay what you. WanNa do about it. Let's talk about this and if you don't WanNa talk about it. We consult a different way. That's if that's what's required but the truth of the miners were teammates whether you like it or not. We're going to be here in this locker whether you like it or not and we're gonNA need each other to win more games nod and so we need. You scored goals. But you're going to need me to do my job as well. This is a team gain in less. You acknowledge the fact that we are important to. This group acknowledged the fact that you have to respect your teammates. Then we're GONNA have a problem and I think that would have in some way. Softens Latins stands and gain more respect from the players that actually had approach him and said. Hey Buddy enough is enough. We can do this together or we're not going to do it at all. I just think that right now is way too late for the galaxy players to kind of take a step back and continue to complain about what was and wasn't instead of having addressed it when he was right in the middle the locker room and you could have taken care of the situation then. Meemaw these quite Shurmur Josie antidotes future. Surprise me today the US International. Saying when I go back to Europe I want to go to a place like the Netherlands was in contact with fine old last summer when Sam was a training there but didn't become concrete. I'd love to play at a club fine as OPEC again. That would be great. I suppose I mean the reason these surprise me I would just say. Oh Jovi fine in Toronto taking the money until he retires yes and I think that still the case. I think this is a little bit of posturing and the reason. I say that if you go back to a report that came out in January reported by the way was put out there but I very very trusted source. Hercules go miss In terms of saying that the public criticism all just the outdoor regarding Mike Michael Bradley's injury and the way that Toronto seed dealt with that injury born in some ways create a pathway which to run to see would look for Josie. Alto to go elsewhere. Well I think this is a way of juicy alternate insane. You're looking for a way out for me now. I'm looking for a way of myself and you don't tell me what to do. I do what I do. It's posturing I think on both sides because when you look at the numbers. And what has been reported in terms of salary and guaranteed compensation for Josie out the door There's nobody out there in. Mls or in the world that is willing to pay that amount of mind. We're talking about guaranteed compensation over six million dollars a year. Who out there is lining up to do that? I don't think that's happening there and I don't think that's happening major league soccer and so it would be very difficult for Toronto seed to Move Jesse. Anyway and I do think that if Josie alternate wants to go elsewhere then well he may have to take a does he want to do. I don't know that that's the case either. So I think you'll see alternate is trying to take control the situation and send a message to Toronto. Say if you WANNA move me I don't care I wanNA move my myself. Actually what do you think I think it was on to something? I think what he says is posturing by those sides. I think that may be the case. Toronto did did want to move him in Toronto entertaining offers. And I will tell you this. I received phone calls from League. East ownership groups sporting directors asking about Josie outdoor and. It comes down to money just like one. Hundred says well north of six million dollars. Guaranteed compensation for Josie Altidore. That's a hefty bill for any club around the world right. Now there is a reason Josie. Altair would have a market or would want to go back to Holland. That's where he had some of his most productive years in his career. He's a very good player for a big man. He's got very soft feet but that relationship with Toronto whether Toronto wants to admit or not is deteriorating public criticized Sebastian wrinkles exit. One hundred nine already touched upon this. Mls Cup injury. Michael Bradley in the way. The club handled that injury moving forward. He criticized them there. I think if the right suitor comes along for both parties is something. Both parties would honestly consider now his age thirty years old his compensation. I agree if he wants to go elsewhere. It has to be the right situation. He would have to come down from that north of six million dollar mark but I do see something there where there's smoke there's fire and many many have already led me to believe that something could be in the works. Make sure your daughters are. I asked forget money. Could Josie do something in the Dutch? League? Thank you could. I think he can score goals here and there and I think he could be a unimportant piece for for a team. Depending on what team is he has been successful there now. This was a while back but I still think that there is something about that. Feels very comfortable in going back to Holland and an continue to make a mark there. I don't think he's going to have to sort of productivity that he had his most successful years there but he may be productive for a group of for maybe an important part for a team. But I don't think that team would be willing to pay the sort of money that he's now making Toronto. Fc and so if there's a deal to be stroke then they have to be a happy medium and most of all you have to say whether Josie likes to hear this or not. He came self has struggled with injuries over the last couple of seasons. And that's something that whatever team is after him whether it's Darah or somewhere else. Hercules Franson League Max. Minder let's not forget hectolitres getting phone calls from sporting directors and technical directors and coaches. And everybody's asking about every player in the world. This is important Hercules ease but what was it is Hercules or Josie. Or whoever? If you're not healthy you can't play and so if you're going to make an investment it's got to be a guy that's available to you out on the field. Meanwhile you spend your time. Speaking to bigwigs leaguer. Annex Perusing Ultra vitale's instagram accounts and I was quite taken aback by site event with an into Miami background What is going on? It's very simple. Telemundo A television company out here in the states posted an instagram story with him. In AN INTER MIAMI BACKGROUND ASK HIM. He's the next bombsite navy's the next big signing and he goes and re posted to his own stories and this causes all sorts of rumor mills Injure he quickly deletes which prompts people to think. Maybe there's something there listen. I think at the end of the day who want to live in a city like Miami who isn't interested by major league soccer player abroad the law of the curiosity. I don't know there's anything actually there but if you ask our major a majority of these players if they'd want to live in Miami I think the answer is yes Ali. Forget on the pitch. Imagine Sarah Vitelle be a great reality TV show in Miami off it and that's part of that you have to take into consideration when making this decision. There's been a history of. Let's say irregular behaviour from our course of his career and it's been readily lauderdale. Tell you that much. He's got real close to Miami beach and there is plenty to do in Miami beach for do that. I assume that there's an allure therefore him and makes it appealing for him. But if I'm making position from a front office perspective I also have to take that into consideration and say look what is he giving us on the field and you're going to give us headaches off the field and if those things don't seem to match up then I stayed I. I would make the decision to stay away. Stay away because it's earning thirty three in late mates and his game. His most successful has been about energy and intensity and his ability to cover ground and he's ability to get into fifty fifty towns and win balls and be a physical presence and a guy that can get in your face and can sort of creating momentum and energy for a team. That's not the player. He is now a days and would not be sort of player for inter. Miami'S IF YOU'RE GONNA INVEST MONEY AND YOU'RE INTER MIAMI. I would suggest either. You go after a big name striker or you debi that money up and get you numbers get you three four good young. South American players Central American players that you can develop within Miami and already gives you a platform from which you can build onto the future. I don't think our dad is the answer for you on the field her. What was the conversation with David Beckham? Like when he called you to ask whether or not he should get. When he came to the students we had an off camera conversation that I can't share with you. I'm sorry which would you despite the headache off the pitch I would I would. I honestly would and I know all these questions about what he has left in the tank. But he's a proven winner everywhere. He's gone and yes. He is about that energy that presence on the field. But there's a big difference in what is lot legal wounded. What his Bundesliga? In major league soccer I still think he has a lot left to offer and I think he has that star power and this is the player is the type of player that David Beckham and that ownership reportedly it must have promised that big signing I agree with it has to be that forward because I think it's the position of need but I think are just makes a lot of sense here on and off the field. It's it's what Miami's about Dow's a big signing is he compared to the other names I think he is within major league soccer. I really do. I mean Juventus. Barcelona Barham units. You've got star. You've got the Lord of the globe. Those teams you know I. I honestly think he could be a big player but there are a very select players that really have that star appeal around the league. No He's not one of those but they're only a handful of those really inter- Miami they still don't have that star. That are star player Arturo Vidal. He would be a major upgrade considering. What the guy which is a little far. Let you guys go. South easy question wins coming back. That's a great question. What is it. They're going to start solo training in a few days. And this really boggles my mind because Solo training means you can not use the facility so you can't go use the locker rooms. You can't use the gym. You can't use the training room. You can't use the showers. You can't use anything within. You could only use the actual training field and you could only do it by yourself. You can't even pass back and forth the teammate. You can't shoot on a goalkeeper. Goalkeepers can't have their goalie coach shooting on them. You can only driven by yourself and run so essentially. I don't know where we are with that now. Going forward maybe something like neutral sites. Mls players unions going to have their own type of many preseason that they're going to have to have the league sign off on. I think we're still a ways away. We need clear testing accurate and fast testing before we can actually move forward or something. I don't think this is coming back anytime soon. It's a good step but not tell you we're coming back gentlemen. Thank you very much for more from Ali and her p short a checkout and videos on youtube where they joined by the one and only S- about Oh no you know it and you love it. One of the big stories coming out of the European note was published on the website. Last week was the future of Mara. Cardi's welcome back raw gabor to the show. God what's happening with him well? He's unloaded power. Senator Manny started brilliantly. With what was seventeen goals in his first nineteen. Games Inter Milan. Where like oh great. This means that Senator Man will pick up the option that they have to make deal permanent which which is really important injured because obviously spent a lot of a lot of money summer unlikes of Lukaku and CNC and they were hoping to be able to sell Yukata Fun. They couldn't sell them but they agree. This deal where it's a feed supposed to be busy between seventy and eighty million euros for the deal to become permanent. Psg now given all the stuff that's going on your mind. The premature end of the fact that you know. He was less productive in the last couple of months before the league grabbed a halt now. They're slightly concerned. That senator man might not actually buy them outright Which means you becoming back to Milan. And so would wanda and that creates a problem. Not just because he is on a very high wage but obviously that would be a big hole in their finances and and that's really makes them nervous gills. What are you hearing why this situation has committed changes that just said back in February? The idea was much four. Pse to buy candy to keep him happy with him. And it was the perfect replacement for agents and Kevin. Who's off contract in June now with all the Coronado virus crises and everything else earnings for with the ceiling finished in Franz. Now it's a very very different story. They won't have the money to spend on economy and on the other players are they targeting especially the bike and it'd be much cheaper to actually give an extension to Caveney one even two years and keep him like that. Then go and spend all the money for economy to Inter Milan and on top of it. Spending money on these wages as well. So that's the reason at the moment is clearly things have changed in the situation in Paris. Now thing right not getting Kevin. It looks more likely to stay and he called you to go back to the other. Aranda was two months ago. Meanwhile staying in Paris the front page of La keep saying that confident as going to sign a contract extension gills. When they confident I will stay for next season steady summer. So that's a good start for them because obviously being with trying to To make a move for Kilian Mbappe this summer so I think that's the question nine everybody knows. Nps very much reassured yet. He's contracted finishing in June. Twenty twenty two so some point they will need him to sign a new deal otherwise they would risk losing him in the summer. Two Thousand Twenty one for choir low amount considering these common values so they're confident to a certain extent because he's happy in Paris the teams. The Tim clearly has improved in the Champions League because they qualify for the quarter-finals. Now she's much better than the last season so there's a bit of a progression there and I think he's hoping that is enough to tie him to a new deal. Finally shows deputy reporting in Spain. That name is winning fifty percent wait to go back to Barcelona yet while good luck with. Maybe he's earning thirty two million euros per year in Paris which is a love money and Cerny wage boss cannot afford now. If because into let's say six million euros maybe a little bit more. This is still a lot of money for club. Has Huge wage bill and we'll also on top of the half to pay the transfer fee to g to to get Neymar which will be above fifty million euros without problems so I don't think I can afford him. And I think people declared have already stated that Gab. Any hope of getting name are back. I mean unless they come up with some sort of a package where they send players the other way. I don't I don't see how they can and I don't believe he's going to take fifty percent page wage job. The only way that I think they can meet the demands in terms of transfer fees if the players the other way but when I say another way you know I don't Mean Antoine van pushing thirty I mean guys that Peres. Your man actually wants and needs so no. I don't I don't see this happening. I think right now. They're just different factions within Barcelona throwing different things One dates Neymar one. Dates is not Matinez. And they're just kind of seeing what sticks if anything gentlemen as always thank you very much for all the latest news by the way on the Trans is doing the rounds. Go to the website. Click on transit now before we go today. I've gotta show you what happened earlier on in the show when recording with Stevie you agree stevie percent if you think diddy him Simon was please. Oh perfect cat was just so loud when it was wearing a Mike. Well that brings us the today show for more from stevie his cap and don't stay tuned for extra time welcome as lettuce addition then of extra time pretty in pink. Stevie Neko with us as is Don't ask just send boys let's start with Real Madrid Were they too late to buy? Edna's auto already two thousand nine season of injury. A my only have two to three years left at his best. Don What he thinks. I think only in hindsight and no one knew that he was gonNA pick up this injuries. Struggle this need to stay on the Chelsea for as long as possibly wonderful job at Chelsea in the primitive gasping to superstar. So maybe you could argue that you ever see nearly as I said before you know. I think you'll still come alive more than two or three years. I'm pretty sure it twenty nine players are now going into the peak in and around. You want he too. So this is a good three or four years in office Stephen. Easy to turn rodents stop question. No of the horrendous seasoning. I'd lost Mainly because of injury and lack of fitness but I mean when the ball he was arguably the most so often midfield that was available on the planet. You know when we were thinking about Belgium winning the World Cup. We're thinking the only way they wanNA as if this guy tones are on so I think he's dead easy in hindsight to see the asked a question such a bad year last year. But there's no question the guys the guys challenger then I'll be shocked if he doesn't come back and chose exactly what he's made though. Don this may have happened to you. Consider in your long list of clubs if you scored against your former club would you celebrate? Did you celebrate And I would think I would. I think I'd give it to the fans of dependent on dependent on who no actually. I think I would participate. It's in my nature Just think before the game of go play cool down. Play it cool then once she school. I never knew what I was doing. I wasn't a good plan. Wasn't good celebrator of goals. I should let loose and go mad. Some pretty you're probably would staving. Would you have scored again? Would you celebrate against Liverpool? Actually the end of the day we coffee. You don't funds. I mean the farmer. The farmer of Sheffield Wednesday for example and my schools against Liverpool and. It doesn't even celebrate. I'm going to ask questions 'til yeah. I think I think I love. I mean he was the same as dawn. You know you're not quite sure. We plan celebrations and in my opinion. Do My head so I yeah I would absolutely have celebrated and some and some saw fashion no question principal calls between you two Donna. How many goals did you get all no idea? I wouldn't know no idea because we did the quiz quiz seven forty six. I remember six forty six. Yeah E. K. Dawn the goal gets hauled naked. Don't in the line of the comments by Rooney S. They of course Ryan is calling them about Ravel. Morrison is any play. You played with never reach the potential. That talent suggested can include player. That you coach Steve. Lets you don't. I'm just trying to think that was an Stevie Able to help me out. On the guy's name Liverpool signed a young boy from Oldham came in and he was meant to be unreal and was my first couple years at Liverpool and not heard all the hype about him. And how was it we in Harrison Wayne Harrison was? He's nine and he was meant to be incredible. He was meant to be the new. Kenny was meant to be sensational Crucial and these first or second season at Liverpool of it was just as I arrived. Now seen him go through. Rehab and he never he never got Fox to to anywhere near the standards. The He was before them went on this being plenty through the years. I think I'd have to lean towards Wayne Harrison. Being the will not really really unlucky not as crucial you know in the early nineties when the physiotherapy what is good is what it is now unfortunately. Never got back Stevie. Think I can think of inevitable right then turn Bush. So I'm not gonNA force you know with this with this. Both sides with the sports science available today with the guys think they would be much better player than they were previously on. What do you think not really? No I mean my problems came off the pitch. I enjoyed my time off the pitch far too much. So that was that was no time was given. I didn't indulge when I shouldn't just too much on a Saturday night mid week but it wouldn't have made me a better player. I five played till I was thirty seven so when I was finishing my always finishing because of the injuries five Neil inside five years. The club's didn't know the I was going to buy operations to pay for the students of seasons finished I used to fly to Colorado and say Daca Stadmann a little clean out right by Capri sees carries on for five years and I think the seven is about about an insult. Wouldn't have thought I would have got too much more steamy. The question about sports signs and if they had the sports science that they do now back in your day with improved your plan. No no it wouldn't have made any difference to anybody as a pl- you know the sport size no is to do with furnace. It's not to do with the ability of any fled about keeping them in a certain shape keeping them absolutely at the peak often account of as long as they can Wouldn't make any definite ability or your ability to get better on the field of play. Just I mean obviously we'd be better and stronger but you don't forget you know back when I was when I was playing. There was no such thing but everybody was kind of in the same. Had the same effectiveness every team train. Much the same. So Don was the same. You know what I mean when when John came along but then every team came and came and started all that stuff at the same time so you will just on a level par we only other teams and all the other place so they would have absolutely nothing to do with making you better football player. Are you happy that you got to play then stevie where? It was fine to have the Diet that you had obviously the drinks that you had in the Chris that you had a very difficult question to answer because that was normal for us to go and enjoy yourself. You know button the guys today. You know they're used to and lifestyle and I'm sure the normal so maybe they're quite happy where I just wouldn't a fancy. There was absolutely no way that guy's day how much fun as good Italian as we did absolutely nowhere near but then you know. You can't do what we used to do today so I actually feel bad for them. You know this. There's lots of things that the mess show on. You know when you go around today and you have all these gentlemen's dinners that are so many ex-professional she'll stand and optel stories all the different things that happened. I mean what these guys are going to talk about. Yeah well then walls Schori. That book will not be as interesting as yours is. We'll be many pages and they'll be spas are stevie just one if it wasn't for. Heizo how'd you think livable side of eighty seven ninety two fed against the Great Milan team? We would have given anybody again telling you absolutely entity again i. Actually I actually played golf with Mike Von Boston few years ago and I said that very thing to say you know what I said attack. I said you know. I'm not GonNa Talk to say that we would have beat your team because it up enticing team. I said let's say well it would have been one hell of a game because we had a property. Just lay that so unfortunately guessing game but no question. We would have given them a game. Big Don the neutral rob have not been see those yea I mean they will stand outside they Liverpool in the in the in the. It were sensational alongside. You know not Milan side would just terrific. In Europe had legendary status Liverpool certainly hot dot and Steve Day meal an audit for water. You've I found into both hot it. And it's such a shame that those two sides together but you'll never know that's probably the beauty of it you know it's nice to try and think who would come out and tell us what you never know and that's sometimes is the best way Just because it just leaves up that gap in your mind where you could actually see it going either way. It would've just been an absolute goal. Fest Britain Shaw. It would have been a wonderful guy. Who is the most famous person you played with wall? I loved clientele like combustion. Stevie and I couldn't drop as many names there but my local golf club. We have Teddy Sheringham. We have Right Hound. We have Steve Lomas John Moncur. So it's not bad but south of Boston who was the best midfielder in that prime on SDN petites or ballot? All up got self spot for our liked money. Sem was just sensational lined. You know is it. Midfield play engine on him. Black Noga bilateral. I imagine my much nationwide ballot. Tenny wasn't an eye so manu out something about him and applied against the many a time and he could kick. You could have play yet. Graceful elegant on the ball traveled with the bowl very easy. Nothing was a stretch for him. This nine might be in the massive minority. But I would. I would go for a Stephen. You will have to absolutely. I'm going with Petit. Yeah how and do what? Don't shed there. But yeah for me for me. Petit probably bollock. Knowing the Difference Between Volley Bollywood finish showed but after that every other department. I'm going with Petit final question. We'll stevie a mustache like dawn. Folks Doggone I feel Oh yeah I would. I would take too long for me. It grew a moustache and you wouldn't barely see either but we flimsy daft thing. No you played great massages legends of the Moustache Game Stevie Thaw what are we start sooner soonest Rushie Aldo Journal Ridge at the Classic Towel Saudi? You couldn't call Russia's of establish. Would you call it but you know what the funny insects that can go talk be pillow now? Let's say that boys? Thank you very much as always. Thank you Steve. And Don Louis back tomorrow for more. Thanks for your tweets until then goodbye.

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