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Episode 41: Bling, Rings, and Very Expensive Things

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Episode 41: Bling, Rings, and Very Expensive Things

"Hello everyone welcome to tv. Literate apart cast unapologetically enjoys trashy tv. I'm jillian. I'm again this february. It's february we made it through january. Which is like a feet. I think because january like in a good year is like one of the worst months most of the time and it was not a good year so far. So i mean like at least we made it through january. February shorter february is shorter. And that's why it's my favorite month of twenty twenty one holy shit january felt like it was eight years uses it. Did it did yeah. Time is a flat circle and apparently it's really really big long boring circle. Yes very flat like crying into the again just stats and our natural state right now. It's okay yeah. I mean every wednesday afternoon. We've been lake prime to get terrible news. So i don't know if i'll be able to like i'm lake to pigeon. Who knows if they do a certain thing they'll get breadcrumbs like if they go to the park at a specific time of day. That's me but it's wednesday with terror. The you've been like pavlov bioterrorism. Yeah wednesday afternoon comes around the bells ringing. Yes exactly. you're salivating Yeah no that's one hundred percent where i'm at times. So what have you been watching to distract yourself from the le'veon response because that's exactly what it is Well so he finished a balance a couple of weeks back now. Our watching house like wherever you're watching. How so and a man. So i watched it when it was on mostly and so i didn't really get a lot of the memes jugs that's like it's never lupus. It's never sarcoidosis. Because i was like. Oh they don't say that that often but now that i'm watching it like straight through. I'm like it's every episode. Yeah any of them. But i was. You know. relatively pleased by does does hold up pretty well like houses a jackass but he's not a bigoted jackass. Yeah that's his character. he's supposed to be. You're not supposed to like love him. You know you're supposed to be like. I don't know how i feel about this guy but like you said it's not anything like super offensive or anything. So yeah he. It makes like off color jokes but like you know he's making them because he knows their off-color stress for shock value. Exactly believes it's like yet. He's definitely an asshole but that's who he is that's him. Yeah but i mean like you know this was a show that was on in like two thousand four And lake the they deal with trans. They didn't deal with abortion. They deal with every and houses obviously offensive in all of them but not like offensive like everyone's like morally outraged at him being offensive right. Yeah yeah that's that's awesome. I do remember that. Show being one of the more. I don't know bold and daring in terms of like the types of stories it. Would you know examine Because that yeah that was like that's pretty early for that kind of stuff on on like a big station channel. A big channel television show. Yeah exactly. I mean you can never watch friends. It will never be good because it's just so bad. Like i tried to watch friends like twenty twelve and i was like oh. My god like gets the oldest like fat jokes and homophobic jokes and like everyone's horrible to each other. No one's actually friends. I don't know man also the fucking laugh track. I cannot handle laugh tracks. yeah. I don't ever really notice laugh tracks or not so when people talk about them. I'm like well. Yeah i noticed them and it just like all i notice for the show meld together and we can have a reasonable response to like exactly that. Let's do that. Yeah yeah So we've been watching house and god. We watched something trashy the other day. Oh we were watching a alone. Do not like the real survivor. Survival game show so they just dropped people on like. Here's it's like eight to ten people and they dropped on different areas of the same location and whoever survives the longest wins. That's cool so it sounds like survivor. Survivor was about like surviving. Yes great. it's great because so many of the episodes are like these dudes absolutely fucking it up just like you know stabbing themselves with their knife not making fire. Whatever are just like oh you know this is fine. I think the last time. I was out for like thirty two days by myself. That was okay isolation candidates to you and the dudes are like. I don't know how to live without talking to one. That sounds one hundred percent right exactly. I like what. I would have thought very good 'cause like i feel like i've learned some survival skills from it but mostly i have learned never band with the men. That's always a good lesson to learn. Always good lesson to learn in case of apocalypse. Establish a matriarch that yes. Yes i agree. I completely agree while all that we have been watching. What have you guys watching while chiron together. We've been rewatching parks and rec though past like couple of weeks here and there and we've and it's just it's so fun and it's just so good and it's just i just love person so much so that's been a good like happy time to be had and then i also finished watching night stalker which we've talked about like the last three episodes. I feel like finally finished watching it. and you are. You were right like it did. I feel like get better in terms of it. Being like less about the police officers live in a little bit more about like the actual crimes and stuff like that and he's still think it was a little too much cop. Talk for me to like love it. And there's just like so much to this story like. Richard ramirez was fucking nuts. And there's just so much going on that i like it could have been so much longer but i knew another documentary or something. I just unusually so much one episode on each his crimes. God yes just called dateline. I feel like there's so much that can be examined. And i'm like really curious. I'm going to have to dig deeper. But it was a good a good starting point for sure right. Yeah it was good. Netflix documentary right. Yeah yeah definitely a little sensational feelings. He never super in depth. But right i think it was good. I mean everyone's been calling it like the most graphic documentary you'll ever see. I'm like i've definitely seen. I mean like the beginning right when you're watching paradise lost which is about west of his three like the first scene as them dragging these little boys bodies out of a river like. That's a little bit more graphic to mate but whatever. Yeah no definitely i mean. There are lots of documentaries that i think are shocking in this. I think they probably just don't hit like nor me. That's true that is true. Yeah so i mean there was. Just melvin just evil which is truly horrific one. I've ever watched that. One is for sure i've seen that one to be there. Were a lot of kind of crime scene photos in night stalker. So i can see why they're saying it but by just for the record. Yeah yeah no. I thought it was good. I thought i think one of the things that we're spoiled by with a lot of other serial killers is that they talked a lot about it gave a lot of interviews and just wanted to like be known or exposed. You'd ever while they're in prison. Where richard ramirez really didn't he just wanted to kill people he just wanted to kill people and then he got into prison and just was like all right. This is where i am now. I don't know like. I mean you don't have as many words from the horse's mouth as we do with like the cod. What was that guy was like. Confessions of a killer out. But i don't remember his name. But yeah yeah i'll be like that's the thing is like a lot of serial killers like they're in it for the killing but they're also in it for the notoriety and all that kind of stuff but this guy literally just wanted to kill people and rape people and just people and that was me out the most about like it was like old ladies. You've got children you've got random women dudes like yeah yeah. That was the worst. I was like who you had no way of knowing who is next or anything and that's that's terrifying. Yeah yeah. I don't know but it wasn't with california at that time for something must have been in the water because i'm glad i did tra- yeah i i would just feel like i'd be on constantly just on edge and there's no escaping it because like these people just like come to your houses and mike enter your home. It's like yes well like the fact that is still happening. Where these people are like entering. Your house is coming into your home. But they're just coming in through an unlocked door because people still aren't locking their doors in the seventies and eighties in california. Lock your doors. People come on. That's why there's locks yes like. What is what is the benefit of leaving your door unlocked there. There really is not how people can come into your house at announced like that's not a benefit. That's no sounds. Everybody loves raymond. Like my worst nightmare. You keep that door tipples. Exactly all right. But let's go ahead and get into our main discussion for today. Today we watch for this week. We watched blink empire which is a new net flicks series. That was just released few weeks ago. Which is about the this affluent circle of asians in la so raisins. yeah pretty much. Exactly like that And it was fucking crazy. That was so like every episode just escalated upon the previous episode and there were like so many different plotlines and so many different little stories with that and i was like equally invested in all of them. Yes yes ho knew that. I have such strong opinions about a penis pump on the lawn. I know i really honestly. I didn't expect to like genuinely enjoyed like all of this them as much as i did. But it was. It was really good. I love a good. La reality show like chris has been telling me that we should do selling sunset. And yeah yeah yeah next. 'cause you just love to hate him and you know that they have enough money in like notoriety already on instagram and stuff like us being like. Oh a hate her. yeah she's going to be fine. Yeah i mean they must know the persona. They're putting out there and how it's going to get some bad. Oh yeah. I mean also have like hundred thousand instagram followers and stuff already so like that means that they get racists shit bags and sex ship back in the day. So we're just terrible. And i hate to say. We're not going to tweeted at them. Exactly we're just gonna talk about them on our podcast and we're not going to be racist about it though so there's no okay. So episode one did these episodes have names. I don't know. I didn't write them down if they did okay. I didn't see that they had names. Yeah that's fine. That's reasonable but now i'm used to duggar land. Yeah being like ginger about to burst or something you know. Kevin kane is almost like douglas because everyone in the show has a k. Name so it starts out the whole kinda show focuses around around. Kevin durant kevin because he is the army amongst the big fish yes. He was a korean adoptee in philadelphia. Pennsylvania pennsylvania yeah and he was suggested by white family and lived predominantly white neighborhoods and was bullied for being asian a lot and then he made his money modeling beautiful. He's hide. he has a highest. he's just high like that's just the bottom line. he's hot yeah. I mean he's really dumb but yeah he's sweet though like means. Well the words i live by is you can be dumb as long as you're nice but you can't be dumb if you're mean. Yeah that's that's that is totally fair like some people can't helping them at least kevin's nice sweet. And he's a good person despite being oftentimes a big idiot. Yeah that was at one point canes says life is very fair because kevin is very attractive. But he's really dumb and they even said it to his mom at one point in time there he was like you know kevin's early dumb but like we love him. He's so good. And yeah which i love. I mean i feel bad. But i don't think kevin care he doesn't seem to. It doesn't seem to bother him like yeah. I think he's fine. I think steam wise. Yes good user. Rather to maybe. So we're following kevin and his first friend in l. a. was cain who doesn't mentioned and kane is a singaporean oils. Oil magnate son. Yes yes and he is. I think he's puppeteer. I think he knows what's going to happen in all of these situations happen. And he's just there to like revel in it he loves it he loves. He loves being in the middle of it. And he's he's hilarious. I loved cain tale. His first quote is wealth to me. Is happiness a fair. I think i would probably be like moderately happier if i were crazy rich. Yeah i mean it would help a little bit a little. Yeah imagine all the doctors we could go to all my god. I know right. Imagine how much insulin i could buy. You could buy like three vials. Guide us all right. Well okay so. Kevin thought he would find regular asian friends but apparently he has gotten sucked into the rich asians circles. Which sounds fun. Yeah i mean it does. It sounds really fun. Go all out. I guess if you're if you don't have any emotional investment. Ed like it would be fine. Just enjoy it. Yeah yeah just flow on the surface of weird rich people. Yes god that sounds amazing. Yeah okay and so then. Kevin is a model which we just said but he can't dress himself he's still has like issues from eighth grade etc like. He looks fine but he just looks like he's a senior in high right abercrombie. Yeah yeah so. A lot of these episodes kind of center around kevin getting clothes and kevin being dressed by other people to look and fit the part for whereas going but wild. Yeah it's funny. And like every time they go to like some party or something. He's always like asking people what they think about his outfit and stuff and make it hard he is he is and he's just failing so funny like i get it. I don't do fashion either. But he is just like he's try and yeah he is giving he's carrying too much which is antithetical to fashion. Yes yes you must just be confident. Yes exactly yes. So kevin's trying on stuff. And the only thing i have to say about this part is kane kane just has all of. The one liners that. I wrote down in love throughout this whole season because he just said to choose. Call me fat it's prosperous. That's what we call it in mandarin. The best little lake comebacks and one liners. He's just he's always there to lighten the mood a little bit. He is yeah. I mean it's because he knows what's going on on. He's yeah he's just having a nice time because he's not anxious about anything that's happening right. He's not in a fight with anyone because he's not a jerk. Yes so a couple of our other like main characters. I is christine shoo. Who is married to dr chu. Who is like a plastic like a big time. Plastic surgeon in our area. I think his plastic surgery thing was called like beverly hills plastic surgery which you know that had to be early to get that like yeah definitely definitely and they like one of her big storylines is that her and her husband like try it for eleven years to have a baby and like his parents were so to her about it even though like it wasn't even her problem that was your housing the issues And but anyway they finally had a little baby boy baby g g so cute actually a little cheeks. I know god. He was so every time he was on. I'm like god. I love baby. I would do anything for beigi for baby. That's fair. hire me as his bodyguard. Yeah so christine's like really into appearances and like connections and that kind of thing and that kind of comes up a lot in her story lines. The next person is kelly who is dating the red powers man on earth since the red power ranger jillian. I know he's the worst. I hate him. Andrew andrew is awful and they have had like an on and off again relationship for like they're always having problems. Sir always break yes. Yeah six years and so they're back together as of two days ago but also they are legitimately like irl. Yeah i l back together as of two days ago. Yeah kelly girl i had. I had to look it up. Because i was like. Oh did she really get away from note. Yeah i'm not. I'm not at all surprised. But come on kelly like anyway so the interesting things about kelly was. She was actually married to a chinese man In her twenties and lived like a very lavish lifestyle And then he was all of a sudden arrested for running a cyber scam and like she had no idea what was going on and it was like the rug ripped out from under her so yeah i don't know i just she probably doesn't seem like the type of person who really good at like catching red flags. No no. she's she's a sweet little summer child. God husband was lynn. Meow in i in how to say meow but yeah i don't even know it was he so it was like they were using deceptive websites to collect phone numbers to build them for services like deer. Remember when like you accidentally let go website and it would charge you like ten dollars a month on you had to call eighty things. Yeah that was. That was him cool. So yeah yeah. It was tens of millions of dollars stolen from mall. Yeah it was really cool. But yeah but now. She's a deejay. Yeah or senator. That's kim's the dj cam shit. I get them mixed up. Yes they take bad dating decisions. Yeah they're both like around the same age. I think too. So it's a little using kim is. Let's see cam she is. She was referred to as asia's calvin harris and one of these episodes. Oh yeah so. Yeah and so. She's all get into her and a little bit. The other big person that i wanna mention now is anna. who is. She's she's incredible. I didn't like she's. I don't even know how to describe her. She's half russian. She's half japanese. Her father sells Weapons and defense technology and not tell she is come into her money but she's very reclusive. She's been married four times like she's always a little bit of a mystery to everyone. Yeah she's a were introduced to her in this show with her in a fancy full links gown smashing her closet wall down with a sledgehammer. I mean what what does describes here. She is it. Does it really. It was a really good good introduction to her for sure The al kind of a lot of the story lines In this show kind of end up being like a little bit verses christine because they kind of have like a feud yes. So that's kind of like those. Are i think the big players. There'll be some other people that we've mentioned. Yeah okay so we could go to the new year party now. Yeah yeah okay. let's see okay. So christine is drawing cheers party right. Yeah okay so. They're throwing the chinese new year party. Christine had all of rodeo drive shutdown for this party which. I don't know anything about away. But i know about la. Yeah and they made they like were they made. They stressed on the show. That that's a big deal to get rodeo. Just shut down for something like. That's not something that anyone can do. Yeah yeah. I think like maybe rodeo drive is where they also do red carpet stuff and that's the only reason it would be it shutdown right within these people's insane parties insane insane so much but i want to go to one i mean like after they automating they look so good. I would eat all of the food. Oh god that's that's why i would go. Yeah none of them are eating it. And i know that anna christine being dexter each other about that but also nobody's ever eating except for kevin exactly why we're not gonna let the food waste. Yeah that's all. I wanna do is as deed although stuff true. Actually i wanna watch. People don't want to interact with them yet. People watch eat yes. That's it yeah party vibes. i don't. I don't know why we're in quarantine missing world in quarantine so much. Yeah yeah we're just sitting watching world. I know i know that. At least we had the option to go somewhere exactly. There were no exciting people. Okay so this. Is kevin's first chinese new year party. There's the red envelopes which for anybody he doesn't know that basically it's just for a lot of money you put money in them and give them to people and it's like good luck in generosity inform for the new year This is where anna in christine have their first chitchat and it gets. Its immediately awkward. Because there she's like christine's like oh anna de paris a lot in is like yes and she's like i do to always have the presidential suite in the plaza anna's like is have the presidential suite in the plaza and then there's just like silence and i'm looking at each other and then i guess that's why we don't see each other. Yeah yeah anna did like talking heads that was like Christine is to be really fun. She has to be a lot better but now she's a name dropper. She's obsessed with being the queen of los angeles which fair assessment anna. Yeah yeah that seems pretty accurate. She's doing that. Nothing really big happened at that party. Did it Nothing really other than that. I think it was just the setup because it's the first party that has been to like this is like the end. I think it was cain or somebody said. Christine is the queen of beverly hills. And now anna's back but fuck there can't be to queens and so this was kind of like the them like meeting for the i mean they met but like you know assessing petition. Yeah it was the meeting on the field of battle to discuss terms right right Let's see let's see so the next kind of plot point is They're doing a photo. Shoot for kim for her instagram. Her followers nude photos of course. And it's all of them. Came kelly kim and kim's mom kimmy they're all taking photos from instagram and fancy dresses and kim's mom is a dream. I love her awesome. Here it's are amazing. I know i know she's they're all just like i don't yeah. Her mom was just like so cool and like fashionable and like just down with whatever it was she's awesome and also like kid your tits out. Put your tits at work. So she's like mom. She knows what sells she knows. She does yeah. And i don't know there wasn't a lot to say about this other than this was kind of when we are introduced to cam Point in time Kim puts on this dress like a little blue dress and you could see her nips through the draft. And then her mom pokes her in the nipple and zoom in on it. And it's just like the most awkward bump present that i've had in a while i was like why don't want to see this this out i get it's funny but also Yeah we don't need to see that but the next big thing that happens is anna decides that so kellyanne andrew like we sat are having issues once again and anna decides that she wants to take kellyanne andrew to her favorite restaurant but her favorite restaurant in paris. Just going to have to go fly to paris to go to her restaurant and have a little trip so yeah they get to paris They will meet florent. Who is anna's french best friend which i love that. She has a french best friend. French best friend who's also a jewelry. Assessor of course. Yes iconic so anna. Yeah and the big thing. That happens in paris is i guess. The situation is andrew was sleeping in the hotel. He like they had just gotten in and Anna and Telly decide to go shopping. While he's sleeping and wakes up kelly's bertha trip. Yeah and like. I mean if you're up in like whatever anyway they get. He wakes up while they're on their trip and like calls kelly and his like fucking screaming at her and like shaming her for leaving him and it was just different. Do that to you. You don't cherish. I love never treat you that way. It's like dude you were sleeping and we went to go shopping calm down. You're at a hotel. You're not like endanger anywhere and an anna. Here's all of this too. Because she has the phone on speakerphone and he's just like screaming and my god it was. It was bad. He was bad. An anna anna was visibly. Like what the fuck. Which you know four marriages divorces yeah. Yeah yeah oh god right after this she does talking head part and she says there ain't no dick that that good that is the true like it's not nothing is worth that kind of treatment. Yeah do you have anything else to say about that. I don't really the only other kind of salient. Point is the andrew makes. Kelly argue with him for like eight hours at a time like he got walk away from an argument at all and she has to stay awake and stay arguing with him until they figure it out. Toxic as hell yeah. That's not okay. This man is an abusive man. I hate him. He's not he's not a good dude no no he's a monk he is. So let's see back in california christine decides. She wants to get a motorcycle in case the end of the world comes so she has a way to get to the airport if there are cars on the highway like stranded. I don't know. I did not follow that at all. But she seemed really can like convince. That was a valid reason to go. Buy a fucking. Do coty yeah. I think it was mostly like christine's having a mental breakdown show. yes that yeah definitely. Yeah and so this is the whole point of the scenery is to introduce the necklace that will cause all of the drama. Yes and so. The whole thing is christine is moving all of her jewellery to the bank and she decides to get it out into do coty store to show cain because this is a reasonable thing to do with a half a million dollar piece of story or multimillion dollar piece of jewellery anyways cain the all knowing. See this piece of jewelry in says. Anna has the same one if you wear it. Don't fuck and mention it like that. You know she has the same one. Let the fuck does she do immediately. She fucking menges it. Yeah she liked. Greg's it up at this at this. Where where were they. That was anna's first party back our next plot point so that works it does And so she like christine like just goes up and look at this necklace. I'm wearing do you. do you recognize this necklace. That i'm wondering and and i was just like so annoyed. With how annoying. She was being about it that she like moved her place eating at the table like away from her friends. All the way at the end of the djabel which amazing yeah. Yeah and so. This obviously causes a whole lot of drama throughout the whole like next seven episodes basically and My favorite part again. Cain mechanism like what can we say. That's better than that. But he says you know how beyonce's put everything in a box to the left side. Christine was in a box to the left. Yes it was good but yeah. I don't know that's kind of just brings us to our. That's our next point of now. Anna's starting to participate a little bit in this. Like cat and mouse game against christine. Which is good yeah So i guess we're an episode to now And i don't know there's lots of things happening in this episode. But i guess the big point is christine invites anna over to talk about the seating arrangement and she says i know that you moved my seat because he heard about the necklace and i was like still saying but her. Yes it yeah. Yeah that's something that needs to stay like eight years ago and not. Yeah yeah stay in the two thousand. Ten's i don't know and then she just back handedly insults anna the entire fucking time and he's like oh you know that is a premade jacket like is it ready to wear and like is just like trying to outshine her knowledge of fancy shit which christine is unimpressed. By and i don't know with anna is unimpressed. But like i don't know what christina's thinking in this whole section like. Why does she care like if she wants to be the clean of la. Yeah she. she's the one that says she doesn't have time for pettiness and stuff like that. But like you keep bringing it up and keep doing stuff like you're just making it worse so just chelsea. Yeah yeah and so. Let's see we kind of put it back to kevin anna and i don't know this whole situation is weird. All of these situations are weird so hard to like assess them critically or like how they make me feel because all of these are just like the most uncomfortable situations i can think of. Yeah it's bad so let's see anna Invites her friends over to tryon's christian. Dior stuff so she can buy it for them because sprees. Yeah of course what friends do as overruns or for. Yeah especially invites kevin because is poor. Little poor kevin which is really like a multimillionaire as well but these poor comparatively and he just doesn't know how to style himself either. Yeah yeah. i'm sure he's just bought cars. Yeah but yeah so. Kevin is trying on some dior. Anna is trying on zone. Dior and anna gets nude in front of kevin. Kevin is very freaked out about it. And just does not give yeah. They're just out. Her boobs are just out and she's just walking around and he's like i don't know how to react to this. Yeah and so this kind of introduces us to the point of how everyone wants kevin and kelly to get together right including kevin yeah and probably including kelly honestly she just as stick on this ship. Yeah yeah. So that's that's kind of where the the idea is started. And kenneth carries on throughout the other episodes to The next thing is the Christine steeds. Husband gabe is basically trying to convince her that they should have another baby Because they they had baby g and they had they had to. They conceived him through in vitro fertilization and they have to other at like frozen embryos already kreil bank. So like you know. It's something that they could just get going But yeah i was. It was really sad. Listen to christine talk about like how hard it was for her because they tried to have a baby for ten years and like the like in engage family. They're expecting a male heir and that's like something that bayer really like they need and so they made her feel awful about it and it was. It was bad. I felt really bomber. Well okay so the whole reason that they have to produce a male heir which they say multiple times in this season and again. I was so deeply uncomfortable with all the like okay. So it's the. Dr chu is supposedly the twenty fourth great grandson of the emperor of the song dynasty. And so if the dynasty is still existed he would be next in line to the throne rate. And they're still. I dunno pudding importance on this like hundreds of years later. There's not been a dynasty delile. Yeah even though it like doesn't matter at all. Yeah yeah so. She has to pop out a male heir and it took eleven years and probably a lot of shit on by his family. Yeah like i can't even imagine I'm just gonna go actually. Can we just like continue this and go to the ones that go to the bank. Equal justice it's right there So they kind of talked to The people the crowd bank. And they i don't they didn't go into detail but apparently christine like almost died during her first pregnancy and it was like a really dangerous situation so they kind of determined that if they were to have another baby They would have to use a surrogate So that's kind of that's where this idea kind of gets started. Yeah yeah and so. Christine obviously is like you know. Your parents won't go for this dan. So gabriel dr to. I don't know why she calls him dr to she calls dr chew. It's like oh yeah she's like you know my husband dr to maybe she liked works found just a force of habit. Yeah so he makes her basically film a little video of him and baby. Woo said his parents. Yeah like dr to and baby like kind of like comedy. Do not a father son. Yeah yeah yeah so they send a video being like. We want another baby and we'll have to use a surrogate to do it. Yeah and calendar. I'm sorry christine is like convinced that his parents are not going to be okay with it. And then not just gonna be like they're gonna find out and then they're not gonna be able to do it but like in reality she doesn't wanna kit and other kid like yeah. Yeah which is fine. Like yeah obviously has a whole lot of trauma around this has been family has been shitty to even though we find out you know later on that. He was the one who had the fertility issue and like even in the scene like she starts like they're doing a modeling shoot. I guess for the preschool. Application packets of sounds very fucking l. A. like she says to Kevin trying to give her modeling tips like he says. Think of something sexual. How did you make baby g. And she's like in a lab in vitro needles surgery and maternity juan. She clearly has unresolved trauma about pregnancy. Definitely yeah so yeah. It's just a it's a bad situation. I feel bad for christine in that. Which is such a dick move on their part. I don't wanna feel bad Advocacy honestly like you. There's not one character except for andrew during this show that you'll just like don't like actively recruit against the whole time like that you know there's there moments with when each character even if their extra and crazy like has there. Oh that's a human being women. So which i really appreciated. Yeah yeah i mean there were all very complex and you could see where some of their bad habits were stemming from. Yeah kellyann andrew. Go to therapy. And they talk about the fight that happened in paris and it became really clear that andrew just has like so many like abandonment issues from his parents and like kelly is saying that she feels like she wants to leave him but she feels like she's the only one that he has and so she'd be abandoning ham which is like a really dangerous like a tactic relationship. Kind of you know like it's the opposite kind of thing of if you leave. I'll kill myself. It's believing that if you leave they'll die. Yeah exactly but yeah he just. It's clear that they They're not right for each other. And i would just like to say. Their therapist is probably the worst therapist ever goes. I just wanted her to be like. Hey andrew what you're doing is emotionally manipulating your girlfriend. Yeah and she never says that she should have been a lot more firm with him. I agree but i mean if a therapist who does therapy on television like you know. Yeah yeah doctor. Bethany was cited. Trust doctor bethany with my brain's life. Yeah i bet she is famous a on. Tv somewhere kind of like the they have the psychic come later in henry and the hollywood media on everything yes he had a show. I think to a little a on. Tlc for a little while. But he's also bet on other like i think he's been on the kardashians and stuff like that too. We speaking of the kardashians. Do you think kim and One of the kardashian girls go to the same plastic surgeon behalf to like. She looks just like a kardashian. Like for real. She's got the lake. Howdy upper lab. Which i don't know how you get pouty upper lip patio lip like the. The widened is definitely like definitely a kardashian. Inspired look that is for sure. I wonder who's worth more. No question that kardashian. Yeah probably. I don't know Okay so we've gone through that part okay so kind of other main plot. Point of this episode is kevin feels weird about how large the gift is. from ana of the christian. Dior stuff in kane is kind of like it might be a test. I don't really know anna that well. That's what a lot of rich people do with their money and their friends to see if they are just being taken advantage of. And so kevin tries to return the shoes to anna. Anna's like it's very rude to return gifts in any culture and i was just like a little deer. Yes she's like. No i wanted you to have those like just like why the fuck would i test you like your friend. I'll get you out if you are bad. Yeah yeah it was good. Yeah oh and i guess the other thing that happens in this episode is you're talking about cherie daughters door which how we end up. I know door is such a bad name for a girl. I'm sorry and isn't a door. The perfume by dior. Yeah yeah yeah. it's so. She's naming her daughter after a perfume from a designer. And i don't know about schivonne he. I don't know but sugary is mom died of pancreatic cancer and very sad and it was a bummer and kevin kane went to the hospital the day before she died kaz. Cain had a feeling which. I don't doubt it canes can got the pulse on that whole thing he does. He just knows when things are going to happen he does. He likes this shows up just to like watch. The drama happen but yeah Is really torn up about that. And we do end up going to a psychic medium about it. I think in the next up. Yeah but she doesn't want to go to the hospital to give birth von because lost. i'm she was. There was her mom's death which i get. That was fair. There look like this whole show is like deeply unrelatable stuff and then it switches like haphazardly to like deeply relatable stuff like the death of a parent or like Having to deal with that or like you know dating someone who doesn't like you very much or being. He doesn't wanna marry you but they just kind of skip across the surface. Yes yes exactly is. It's a nice kind of balance of and not so serious and it just makes all feel kind of ridiculous. Yes definitely even though. It's all very serious but is ridiculous. I don't know so. Let's move on into episode three this episode kind of focused at the beginning about like the whole extravagant spending of all of them. They're in. They're trying to make a soup for cherie and buy like fifteen thousand dollars worth of shark fins and stuff. It's insane it. Yeah that was crazy. I just thousand sane But yeah they so jesse and have been together for five years And they have jatoric pregnant schivonne but they are not married at which is like very weird in their culture that they are not they have children and are not married yet and it really just like seems to. I don't really know why. Jesse just seems to always have a reason why he doesn't want to propose and he was like he's scared of commitment. I don't know And so it's kind of like sheri's kind of reluctant or sherry cherise kind of reluctant to force the issue but like doesn't want to be taken advantage of the security of married which i'm sure is very well hammered into your mind when you a wealthy person. Sure yes Yeah i don't know there. She confronts him about it in this episode. He says that there's going to be proposal. Coming in. she has a promise ring but kind of by the end of this episode. They still haven't settled anything. Yeah yeah But she does give birth by the yes when she gave when she had the baby she said thankfully i think giovane is really adorable and the way she said i was like irene. What if you didn't though if he was a fucking punted him off the roof like Yeah but then immediately. After that she says. I'm so excited to put him in my irma bag. Yes and she was like how to big photo shoot for him because she said when i had your a true photo shoot which i don't know what a true photo shoot is but you've got to have true true photo shoot. Only there's no like the baby is not officially here unless you've had your true photo shoot So this episode really. The biggest part of this is anna has a spot at her house. And this is the penis pump. Oh yes this is great. Yeah the whole thing is kim. Thanks that anna's house is haunted. So she decided she was gonna go sage it and then that just turns into an excuse for snooping and they end up in the bathroom and they find a penis pump in the shower and came so freaked out by it that she makes the dude with his name is guy because of course it is He throws out the window at at everyone having the party and this creates why like she was like so disgusted by it. She's like you need to get rid of that. It's like that's not even your house and it's like in the shower. Just go away just like walk out there like like you wouldn't like paula poop out of the toilet and throw it like you would just flush it. Just shut the door and forget about it. Just don't think about it. None of your business. The yeah so she throws it out and like obviously anna's like past because that's embarrassing and like everyone on everyone at the party saw. This penis pump just like online but like camera. She uses to admit that she did anything wrong or that she even like was responsible for it and it was like a big thing. Yeah yeah and so this kind of lakes over in the moon festival party that Who was throwing this. One kelly kelly. Okay yeah so. Kelly's moon festival party and kevin goes to win over the mom too. But kevin tells everyone to apologize to anna in. Says the anna's not even mad and kevin's like dude. You disrespected her. Who raised you. Wolves and then. Kim throws a drink on his hundred thousand dollar outfit. Yeah then kevin leaves. Yeah it was a whole thing. Yeah it was honestly good for him though. Good for him he's again i'll just say he's a labrador. He has youthful his sleek his well defined he would pass the akc inspection but he's just loyal and dumb. He's like the crazy rich. Asian version of ethan plath. Summer child just wants everyone to get along. But he'll fucking cut you if you insult someone exactly him exactly all right. So let's move on to the next episode. So kelly gets like a psychic together. A master gang At dinner or whatever to talk about their futures he tells cain that he will be a boss and have lots of money. Which sounds like yeah. Christine asked him christine. Asked him if she'll have more kids and he says she'll have five more which does not sound likely to me And he tells kelly that there are many more men in her future. Yeah yeah yeah. I just love. This was the cane. Ism of the episode can't says syria would tell kelly to find another guy and then we find out. Andrew doesn't have any money and kelly's mom's not pleased about that but then we follow cain to the bowling alley which he has rented out for everybody. Because of course you can't bowl plebes so now we might get exactly Yeah yeah this is. Kind of where the anna campinas palm situation comes to a head because kim is there and kevin is still kinda pissed about the situation and then anna comes And anaconda confronts him about what she did wrong and how she had like no remorse for what she did and they kind of basically made up And kim and kevin made up and yeah it was it was it was fixed. Yeah guy apologized Kim got weird like that. Did you notice this on this episode. Where kim kind of put on like black sent. I didn't i was paying attention to out. Yeah no so like it's like. When she got into the fight she started kind of doing lose. Lake like yeah. Yeah there your typical thing which you know. I don't know if that was just her or is something but it was uncomfortable in a google to read. It is also uncomfortable about it. So a little validation. That is always good. I'll have to go back. I just must have missed that. But i'll go back and watch give you. My assessment will super weird. Because it wasn't how she talked all the time or even when she was upset because of the later part where she's with her mom right like i don't know it was weird. Yeah she's still in kim a little less. She still like really weird about the situation. Like clearly what you did was wrong. Even if it wasn't just you that did it like you definitely o. Annon apology at the very least. Yeah okay so through this episode. As well we get back to christine and gabe dr to about it and yeah. She said she took all the blame. She finally gets it through Head she doesn't want another baby at. It's just she doesn't want another baby right. Yeah yeah she's like you said still has so much kind of trauma and other things surrounding like the pregnancy and they infertility and opening up old wounds to have to go even. If it's gonna be something different and you know it's just like you might like if she's happy with how things are. I totally understand like just wanting to close that chapter And it was i. I felt like it sucked that like gabe. Just like we'll let his wife take the blame for him like that is not cool like it's good that he's finally starting to like step up a little bit more for her but like that was not cool. Sorry no no again. He should be he. Should be the ethan blast getting. Don't insult my wife exactly. But i guess if you're the twenty fourth great grandson of the song dynasty yet and you don't apologize for anything exactly you don't need to. Yeah so the next. The next part Kevin get some genetic testing done Like we said he was adopted And so he doesn't really know much about his family or culture or anything like that He finds out that he's seventy seven percent korean and he's kind of just wanting to learn more about his korean background and his family. And things like that. Yeah i think this is. I mean this kind of threat is throughout the rest of the episodes. Yes i think. It's mostly that kevin finally has friends that are asian. Like honestly like he you know. He grew up in the white friends. He was bullied for being asian and he said at one point he just wanted to be white and it's like now that he can see that people like take pride in their culture and are invested even if they're american an americanized and mostly have white friends like they can still. Yeah yeah. i thought that was really it was. It was really nice to see like he's feel like he's really you know maturing and becoming more comfortable and his background and his past and things like that and like you said i think it really helps to have like the support of the asian community around him that he knows you know having that kind of display to him like how like fulfilling thing it could be. You know what i mean. I could not something to be bullied about. It's something that you can make part of your identity and yeah yourself. Yeah which was definitely a struggle for a lot of minority. Children raised by white families. So i don't know. And i'm glad that his mom so cool to his mom is awesome. I love his mom. But yeah he so. Kevin decides to email like the adoption center for more information about his birth parents And like like you said a kevin's mom coming in town for a visit. And they're going to talk about it and this is also where we learn about kim's background to So cam lost contact with her father when she was eight. I think she said And like he still has ways to find her but she has no way of finding him like has no idea what happened to him And so they kind of like bond over that and also lake the the desire to want to know more about their family. Yeah so yeah. His mom came into town and he said he told her that she that he was interested in looking at his family and she was very cool. It was very nice. She said she was also curious and she wanted them to see how he had turned out so then he has a party. I think it's for his one year anniversary of the l. a. which is also basically his birthday so kind of tubers alums down And yeah so. This party is what we find out that kellyanne andrew have broken up doctor bethany earlier in this episode. Yes they did. Kelly toll basically. Kelly is giving him some time to move out of their house and then they're going to take a break or that's what they say that's the plan at least And he is an asshole throughout the whole thing. Doctor bethany calls out none of it like when he's like. Oh i just think it's a lack of effort. Love compassion empathy for the other person. On your part like ma has but that doesn't seem okay. Now it's not it's really not. Yeah but yes. So they break up and that leads us into our. Yes and this episode came throws kevin a surprise birthday party because kevin talks about how he's never like had a friends that through a birthday party and never had like a big deal made about his birthday and so this is like a cute little surprise car laboratory. I know i know and wanted friends throw a party. I know and he finally has them. And it was really sweet. And kevin's mom was there and he introduced kelly to her as his quote future. Wife which i thought was really crazy. So yeah yeah something you should say in front of her and then his mom says her hips are too skinny to have the most awkward thing in the world. Oh yeah yeah. The party was cute and good and it was nice. His mom got to talk to kelly about her being okay with him wanting to find his birth parents since kim yeah was dustin kelly you said kelly but yeah cam is what you meant. His mom him talking to his mom. Yes yeah about finding her dad and how she was. Kim was worried that like her mom was gonna be her mom and stepdad. We're going to be upset about it. And basically kevin's mom was just like you gotta go for it. Yeah it's on your mind got to do it. And i'm sure they'll understand so then we get to baby's birthday party baby. He's one an yeah. He has like a fucking huge first birthday at this fancy museum and christine makes a big deal about how she was like donating to the museum in name and it was like she just had to let everyone be aware that that's what they were doing She said in one of our talking head moments. I want to see that. I value giving back but i also want to create a legacy for him so he can get into the right pre-schools yes. Yeah yeah which. Of course anna immediately picks up on man says this is very contrived and then she jumps into the ballpit and hits the ground. Like iraq hell. Yeah that moment was the moment that i texted you when i was like. We have to did the show. This woman just like full-on spread eagle eagle flobbed into these. She's i love anna. She's just like you never know what she's gonna do. You look like there's literally no telling. She does her whatever she wants. And the best thing is like you kind of think that kevin's like the pig dot labrador. But then he whips out some shit like this like he organized the beach. Party with my favorite shaman. Yeah let's get into that because that's the next big. Yeah so i think he's basically so he like you said he. What's his name shaman. What showman derrick. Derrick has come over with their group of friends. And like basically the alterior motive. I think is for him to get kelly to like move on from andrew. Like i think he's really wanting the shaman to say something about that so you can use with kelly but yet. I think you mentioned this to me. But i loved the line where he was like spirits downloading all the files into my operating system. And i don't like what the fuck i do also have a little factoid about shaman derek. Yes gwyneth paltrow's show. Of course he is that makes total sense. Yep yep so. Basically he thought he went inside kelly's indifferent system notionally and he found that something is creating a pattern of bad relationships and she's just the bad people and chance to be part of a power couple yes like way more. La than he did a difference. It is la. Yeah yeah then the shaman moves onto jamie after this part and she he's like you're too hard on yourself into like yeah. I had such a hard time today just letting myself decide between two color back. I get that. I so bad at making the decision so i feel i felt that. Oh yeah. I like which. I like better. Yeah exactly. yeah so. We already did. Kim and her parents so talks to her mom and her stepdad about wanting to see her father again and her. Mom has the initial knee-jerk responses of you have me and dan loves you but then she's like you know i i'm also kind of curious and i want him to see that you are successful in lining know that you've made it in life Yeah i was nice. That was nice to see such supportive parents in the us heart situations I was really that they were all like cool. Yeah i was too and so it was. Nice and kim had a weight. Lifted offer shoulders basically an inch so yes came decides to hire a private investigator to help find her father Kevin goes with her to meet with him. The guy the private investigators as best case scenario. He's dead rate. I know this private investigator looked like he was an actor cast diprivan he did looked exactly like one. Yeah and he was like being so dramatic about it. Which like i understand like. I think it's good that he was trying to prepare her for like. Hey immi- not want to see you But he was like so like he's gone eased. Hopefully he's dead for your stake in. It's like jesus dude taken down a notch. Yeah yeah. I don't know it was wild and the i ended up finding him really fast And so yes. I think she tells her parents about that. I'm skipping ahead crabs. Fine that's fine. We can continue on with that. Yeah so she tells them about that and they're like you just column See how it goes. Yeah yeah yeah. So then. The next part i'll talk. We'll talk about yet because it's kind of a big part yet so back with some other. People christine throws a leather party. Which was yeah crazy. Apparently it doesn't mean the same thing in multiple places. Leather party to me means like what kevin was wearing harnesses and gay men. Like i kind of like if if somebody said oh. I'm going to leather party. My first thought was like. Oh you're going to have a whip and like a little hat and like no shirt on underneath your leather jacket. Yeah yeah and of course. They mean leather as in. Just wear all leather. you're supposed to keep it tight. Yeah that was the thing. It was like a bow tie. They had like a bow talks bar because they were advertising a new machine that like everything up and they had like a room with sex toys and just like okay is a lot. Yeah it was so much it was so i don't know it was like rich people wanting to have an orgy but just making it corporate rate right And was this where it was. Just the party where she was where Christine called anna out for liking anal or something. Uh-huh yeah yes. She's ainley enthusiastic She liked calls anna out specifically because she's petty and it's a whole thing Yeah oh and then this party. Also kim arab sorry kevin finally asks kelly out on a date and kelly says yes and so they go on their date and they go dancing and it was cute. Yeah salsa that's like a good good for like a good idea on kevin's part like he's really trying here And they goes fine. But like kevin's trying to kiss kelly. The whole time. And kelly is like very obviously deflecting and has clearly not as into it. And i think obviously it's mostly because she's still all in our feelings about andrew really doesn't have anything to do with kevin. I don't think. But i just think she says she's not. She says to the in a talking head but not to him that she's just not emotionally ready to move on with someone new which is fair which is totally fair but then of course the next scene telling andrew yes supposedly sharing custody of their dog kilo and then they immediately get back together. Yeah yeah yeah. And it's weird and gross and record it for a really long time. yeah. I didn't need to see it all and they. Yeah they it's like every time they see each other like they just can't help back together. It's like maybe. I should stop seeing each really. Cut that off. Yeah oh all right. So yeah exactly the next episode Anna has a yoga instructor over to her house and she wants to get back at christine so she. I think she doesn't tell christine that it's a yoga party. She just tells her that basically she wants to come over and have cocktails and so christine shows up. And she's like dressed up in this like crazy outfit that like you clearly cannot do yoga in. And then she and then like anna also has like this like instructor. Who's like this big beefy guy. And he's like being really weird with christine and yeah it was basically. She was just trying to embarrass christine for embarrassing her. I know if someone can just let it the fuck oh really would have ended a lot earlier. Exactly who cares who cares. Yeah that you have the same necklace and you wanted to say that. I don't i don't know yeah it's just too much canaan. Sure hanging out and she talking about how she always wants to talk like. She wants to talk to her dead mom. She wants to know and she'll see your again. She wants to know if she is in the house because the house is her mom's house that she likes that sri lives in so she gets tyler henry to come over and do his scribble thoughts scribbled just says the same things that everyone else would say but he says oh i won't say things and then he does. Yeah and i mean. I i don't know if it brings your comfort. Then that's great That's all that really matters but yet it's just he didn't really say anything that was like he did say that her daughter should door would see her mom and now this leads us into the wild plot line. One of my favorite ones. Where cherie thanks that. Savan is her mom reincarnated. Yes she she oak gogo. Nope sorry go ahead go. I was saying which she tells to kane when she makes him come over and say hey could my mom have reincarnated into him. And he's like well you know. Buddhism is possible sirvan shits. His pants cane runs from the room. I loved cain said. I don't wanna see your mom's penis. When he was she was changing so funny actually have but then kind of the end part of this is cherie tells jesse who baby daddy. While he's a town that chevron is her mom and then she says the camera if he's my mom is my mom sucking on my boob. Like should i stop breastfeeding. No you should stop thinking that your babies me in karnataka. Which thankfully is what. Jesse says once he gets home he says that's like a lot of pressure to put on someone link my reincarnated like nah. Just don't do that not cool but yeah that was. I loved that plotline. I was hilarious. God it was so funny So the other thing in this episode. Well let's see kevin Doesn't really get a lot of information about from the adoption agency. There's really nothing on not much on file about his parents or anything about his life So he decides he's going to a hypnotherapist to see if he can remember anything about korea or anything about his parents which this was not this was like he was he got like so emotional in it. It was crazy. Yeah like i. I know that some people can't be hypnotized in some people can but like damn kevin. You really got hypnotized. I mean i think he really got hypnotized seemingly did real upset about it. I don't know if the memory is were real because like s away more debated psychological rain but like hypnotism can happen right. Yeah it's it's a it's a matter of whether or not you're like remembering something or just like making something up in your mind Via lake recalls a birthday party at age five he recalls being in an airplane and at age three and he kind of says that he like i one point the hypnotherapist like brought him back to like before he was even born when he was like in the womb and he said he could feel that his mother was really scared and so he kind of like came to terms with the fact that his mom didn't give him up because of him she gave him because of her and her situation and she was scared and everything and that kinda helped him to be like okay. It's not me you know. Yeah yeah which. I mean. Kevin i love you but i'm pretty sure that's the first time this season is like the first time he ever had that question like my parents. Give me up like yes. Just a sweet little boy. I'm glad he got closer. It was kind of weird but at the same point in time like he tried all of the regular avenues. Maybe somebody'll pop up on ancestry. dot com. yeah who knows. Hopefully he's chill yes okay. Let's move on to episode seven. What was this party that they were at. I did not take announced about this. first party. The like where anna and sherie. Yeah yeah it's just. The anna invited shri because she wanted to see the kids like she wanted to. See the baby's. Okay okay so then. Kelly just happened to also be there chat. I was confused. Don't what was happening. I think she just texted like hey come over will eat popsicles or something. Okay let me. This scene is really just kelly trying to avoid all questions about andrew because everyone's asking about it and she doesn't wanna tell them because she just gets lectured because it's clear that she should not be in this relationship to everyone except for her But yeah so that starts Let's see oh yeah and then later like just a few scenes later. Kevin anna are talking and kevin is like convinced that kelly and andrew are back together and so anna calls. Kelly like confront her about it. But kelly's like no like we're not. I don't know what you want me to say. We're not together. And then of course anna's immediately on board she's like yep back together because defensive. Yes as the part that i loved about the scene is that anna has a phone. That is exactly what i expected. Eighty-three missed calls seventy-nine on listened to voicemail like. Yeah she's like all kids. Get to them when i have a minute. What she said. It's like that's towns right now and so then we follow kevin to canes house and they talk about their dumb ass stupid fucking plan. Yes that they're gonna do. Which is. They're gonna find cans dad without kim knowing slightly can. Prep her for whatever's going to happen. Yes 'cause they the private investigators found like a phone number and they tried to call it and left a voicemail. But there's also an address in south carolina so kevin and kate cater like. Let's just go to south carolina and check it out Which is crazy. I loved the scene when they were like i in charleston. I think it was. And they see a confederate flag. And kevin's like. Oh my god. It's a confederate flag. And it's like oh you. La people don't know what it's like you know like like the whole thing was a wild cane is just like. He's so on another plane from everyone that he doesn't fit in with like the rich people but he doesn't fit in with the normal people. I don't know it's just so funny but do we want to keep going on this. Let's just go for it. So they get to south carolina. They are they go to the dad's house and no one answers the door but they see pictures of a vietnamese couple assumedly through the window. Ask all their neighbors and figure out that. It's the student a michael where kim's data named tony michael ricksen nail salon and They call him. And after calling the pi who says that. Michael is a friend of. Tony's michael says doesn't tony doesn't know kim doesn't know anything. They all think that he is tony. Yes yeah but he's not don't on done well we'll get into that in a second. What else happens in this episode. The only thing that happened in this episode was the diamonds are forever party. Oh yeah so. Anna's french best friend. Flora comes into town and to celebrate his birthday. Anna's throwing a diamonds are forever party And oh yeah. This is the party where anna invites christine late And she says it's so people won't have to deal with her for the whole party like i get it. I understand it. I would be that petty but like girl you guys like playing the game. Two for real. Yeah i mean that was kind of the only thing episode because then episode. Eight really fucking rang. Attache app has the episode with the possible. Tony number calling calling back. It's a woman. it's a woman. Yes so basically It's tony's current. Next wife who is calling and saying that tony actually died two years ago from kidney disease and heart attack But she did but she did say that she knew about kim which was like part of the whole thing when she was not even sure if his new wife and family even knew that she existed so that was good but obviously not agreed not agreed notion. No it's like kevin. This was all kevin's idea. And he dragged. Cain like kevin's says little done baby. Him and kane is lake. I dunno he just sees it all and he like knew how bad this was going to be an. It's like he can see it all but this time he couldn't handle it because like how do i tell someone that their dad's dead. Yeah yeah so they go back to la. And they meet with kim and kim's mom and tell her what happened and kim was emotional but she took it pretty well. I thought like. I mean she was obviously emotional but like i think she was at first weirded out that kevin and kane like did all this but then you realize like they were doing it to try to help me to try to protect me from something that could have been really bad so yeah she eventually comes around to it and this is definitely the scene where she looks the most kardashian. Yes definitely. I don't know why i was just like. That's a bad is a kardashian. Right there her. Mom says that she thought that her dive was dead. She said she felt that he was no longer in this world. Yeah it's shit. Give her daughter warning. Yeah maybe like. I think he's done or like to prepare for it. What else did we kind of wrap up in this one. Cherie and christine talking about kids and talking. About jesse proposing and cherie says to christine. I think that i'm going to have to repose to him yet and christine's face just turned into this stone. Oh my god yeah like the whole time. Christina's like trying to politely dissuade her from doing it. She's like oh like doesn't that ruin the proposal. Experience liked an. it's like. Isn't that something that you've always dreamed. Thank that he would be mad. Yeah yeah and she's just like i don't care but like it was so cute so like we're just gonna go to the yeah but like christine looked like she was trying not to scream. When cherie got up on stage and started proposing to jesse sorry. I forgot his name Yesterday proposing to jesse and then she does it and everyone is in shock and awe. And i think jesse very surprised and doesn't know what to say. Yeah he takes a little bit. Till i collect himself but then he kills it he does. He does good. I was impressed with with what he said and how he was talking about. How like she deserves everything. And like if that's like what he's going to be doing is like giving her what she wants and deserves. That's the best thing he could do. And he says yes and it was really sweet. Yeah i was like half expecting him to pull out engagement ring that he was gonna propose to her. There would be amazing. That was a little too movie movie. Whatever yeah but I just wanted to like mentioned. I guess that luxury new jesse well enough that he would say yes probably even if he was a little mad it was worth it in. The end was trying to fuck it up. That's christine for you Let's fucking christine for fauria. The other plotlines and the one are kind of weird. Let's see so we get what we do. Get a little more knowledge. On kane and jamie and christine. Because they're all out with tammy kane reveals that he's been on allowance on a monthly budget and Christine was cut off in college for some reason that she didn't say so. She hasn't seen her dad ten years and she hasn't had you know parental support. And jamie's like oh fuck out of money tomorrow. I decided to cut me off. So she's like. I might as well just spent now while i have it. I mean that's fair. I guess. Yeah i guess when you can just sell the stuff yeah and then the other thing was oh yeah when they flew out to las vegas just to go shopping like They were like there's a company that likes to fly out wealthy asians to go to las vegas and shop okay So christine christine. Cherie kevin kane go And they were saying people in beverly hills are tired and depressed so when they spend money they feel better. Okay well. I mean all right. That would be nice. If i could do that but i i would like to try that. Yeah i'd like to see a forty thousand dollars like fixes it. Yes that's probably nothing to them. No it's not. i mean. Remember when they were talking to jamie at the table and jamie was made like forty thousand dollars off my instagram. And like that's not even an attorney yet ex. Yeah ex like. I could pay off both of my cars and hassle with over ya. Yeah that's like a life changing amount of money for most people. Yup right so i guess the last whole thing of this episode in this series is one hundred day party which we already kind of talked about. That's where you the proposal happens yet. Giovanni one hundred day party. Which is a chinese tradition. That celebrates the first one hundred days of babies life and it kind of is like a good fortune kind of good luck thing for the baby and i think it's like a hope that the baby lives to hundred is what sherri was saying. Yeah yeah hundred. Cute hope for a hundred years which is very cute but it was already. I want to go. It was it was a great party and like everybody got their shit together and like christine was trying to mess with cam and again and kim was like hey my dad died and then everybody actually became a human. Yeah apologize to each other. It was nice again. Yeah i it was a very lake wrapped things up really nice. This party did but it was. Yeah it was nice to see everyone just kind of be like let's just let's just move on. Let's just there's more important things going on in the world. We have more in common than we. Don't so yeah. It was a good show. It was good. I was really impressed with it. I like to. I thought like i i was. I wasn't expecting as many like human moment stories in this And i really liked that. It was kind of like that balance of like crazy extravagant. Like things that i will never be able to relate to in my life along with like things that oh i can or may have to relate to that at some point. It was nice to have that balance of two things. Yeah i i liked talent absolutely outrageous ridiculous. It was at times yet. it just like swings right back to. Oh i'm just in a fight with my boyfriend. Everyone does it exactly. Yeah it was. It was really good. I was really pleased with it. And i hope that there's another season. Yeah i do too. I think there probably will be. I mean all of them were producers on it so they were like funding. It may happen why to see like i would love to see how their lives have changed during covid. Because i think this was filmed right before i twenty. Nineteen so i would. I would be. That'd be interested to see like twenty twenty season of it because these crazy parties and shit. I mean they probably have rapid testing at the door. Good the funniest thing that i found out about this series while i was like googling around just to see what was happening. Anna got paid from this obviously and she forgot to cash the check like so many times. That like netflix had delayed send someone to go to her house to show her how to deposit a check because she had never deposited a check in her entire life. Oh my gosh that's bad. How but also like depositing checks so easy now especially you just take a picture of it on your phone line how i feel like she eighty three missed calls. Yeah andy nine voice. That's true that is true. I should know better too chaotic for that. Yes yeah. 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Big Story Book Club: Victory Machine chapter 5 with Brady Trantham

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Big Story Book Club: Victory Machine chapter 5 with Brady Trantham

"Let's all store today. Podcast Chisholm Holland Brady Transform. Here with you for the book club first off as a little bit of a note here. I know that I was one podcast short last week. I was on my deathbed sick. So I'm one podcast behind me a madison. We'll catch up this week so I apologize for that but today we were reading chapters. Five through eight of Ethan Strauss's new book victory machine the making and unmaking of the Warriors Dynasty. We talked about the first four chapters last week. And we're finishing the book this week all the two week episode or two week a two episode book here for Brady. And really if we're GONNA talk about all the chapters we've read between eleven rings in this one. Chapter Five of the victory machine is the most enthralled matrix. I had never read it before and I'd read eleven rings before but this is the most enthralled that I've been in chapter in a long long time book. Oh Yeah no question this is I mean. This is the reason why people are going to buy this book. Because of this chapter mean Kevin Durant's on the cover. Kevin Durant is one of the most polarizing athletes not just of this generation that probably of all time regardless of sport just because of his legacy his legacy currently has the player and you know trying to forecast his legacy as a player years down the road when he's done playing the guy just whether you like him or don't matter you don't care for them or you hate them for whatever reason like he demands a lot of news and a lot of chatter and this is basically your wet dream if you WanNa if you go. If you just don't like Kevin Durant. This chapter was written for you. Yeah so we. We were talking about this book on twitter and a listener and thunder. Fan said well. Do I want to redesign thunder fan? We're like no no no. This chapter is fourth on your fans. Like there's going to be anybody who enjoys this as much as okay see people? Yeah the interesting thing is like I mean not to get too far ahead of ourselves but you know Ethan Strauss professionally as a writer covering the Golden State Warriors. His story with Kevin ran of course starts after Kevin durant burned everybody around by leaving Oklahoma City so while this chapter is going to like you know a lot of thunder fans are going to get started experience out it just by reading just going like I knew that guy was snake. I knew he was the son of a bitch. Like all all those things like I get it but with Ethan the writer of the book. He doesn't necessarily have that professional opinion of him now. He might have a basketball opinion of him. But I mean he's going to check out the door because of his job. But just the unraveling of the relationship between Kevin Durant Ethan Strauss and you can extrapolate that for the rest of the Golden State daily media because in some weird scenario if Kevin Durant left the warriors and joined the Oklahoma City Thunder in some. You know alternate universe. Yeah everything went down the same way. It would probably happen with US covering Kevin Durant on a daily basis. Just everything that went into the the entire situation with everything that went into Kevin Durant head what came out of his mouth. It was just so cringe-worthy and all say this because look I. I know covering the thunder as a native Oklahoman. Some people are probably going to assume that I'm biased towards the thunder because I'm a local like there's always going to be a little bit little bit of that is me as a native Oklahoma. I'm all admit that but growing up the heat fan rooting for the thunder for a few years and then deciding that I wanted to do this professionally. You know I check my under at the door. And it's kind of organically gone away so I really went into chapter with kind of the mindset of. I don't hate Kevin Durant. I don't have a bad personal opinion of him. I have a professional sports and basketball opinion of him. But I'm not going to go into this. Chapter looking for reasons to dislike him if that makes sense and. I'll just tell you this mean you might. You might agree. You cannot read this chapter and not have a negative opinion of the guy impossible. Yeah no it is not It's just I would love to meet someone who reads this and goes you know what he's not as bad as I thought a medium are this book. I told Sam this on the air. This book made me realize a lot of things about Kevin Durant. It also made me feel sorry for him. And I don't mean sorry in the way that Kevin wants me to feel sorry not saying like he's been victimized in. Oh man I feel sorry for Kevin Getting victimized. That's totally unfair. It made me feel sorry for him in a way of I think there's something with Kevin that he can't control that is kind of unraveling his life a little bit here and there's not a whole lot. He can do about it and again. It's not in the way that Kevin Because Kevin kind of wants to be the victim right and he wants to be admired and loved and have some compassion for. I don't have it in that regard. I have it in the life. There might be something wrong with Kevin like. I think there's something else going on here. Oh Yeah I mean. Just the mental mistakes that he's made Whether or not you agree with his move the city to golden state like this. This has little to do with that because at the end of the day he did nothing wrong. He didn't cheat to Golden State. Say he didn't break any moral law. It was it's just an unprecedented move. That left a lot of people the bad taste in our mouth and the better bands especially felt betrayed. I don't really blame them for feeling betrayed in the first place but at the same time professional athletes they make decisions all the time and decisions. That are typically right for them. Kevin Durant made the right decision. He went to Golden State to go win championships. He accomplished his mission. One hundred percent. Good job but if if you'll indulge me Chisholm because my conspiracy theory brain just kind of flared up reading this chapter is I like. I'm sure you remember this. But the day he went to golden state everybody and their dog on twitter and said well. They're going to win the championship. It's not going to be close. And then Hey Katie. Never GonNa be your squad. It's always going to be steph curry. Why did you do this? Like a lot of that was out there Kevin Durant. No doubts thought that himself. I'm actually kind of curious if those around him that he especially you know. Listen to. Let's just say they didn't like rich. Climate I wonder if they ultra prepared him for the whole factor of people are going to say that. Steph curry is better than you. Or that that the The Golden State Warriors are his team so much so because they wanted Kevin to bounce quickly after he won his titles. Y- what I'm saying because every time you can strauss brings up steph curry like anecdotal Covering Kevin Durant Kevin just gets his super ultra defense mode. Yeah I here let me just I read this because I think this will put everybody in the mindset. If you've not read the book this I'm just GonNa Chapter Five Kevin Me. I'm going to be a straight on the page. Irish Kevin Durant for this chapter. The exchange via text ended as follows. Him Fuck You. Fuck your sources in your book. How much money you pay me for my chapter. Me Colon How much do you think it's worth him? Colon not enough. That tells you everything about this chapter. Because if that's the way he's in starts you realize. Oh Wow Ethan's pulling no punches here on everything that's going on. And there's so many weird stories so many weird stories in this book and I don't even know where to start like started highlighting everything I thought like. Wow how crazy is that? Then I realized I was just highlights entire chapter all fifty five pages every page every paragraph. Has something juicy that somebody's going to love like no doubt? I mean when this book initially dropped like the day that it drops we already saw screen shots of like line from this chapter about how much of a whatever you wanNA call Kevin Durant. How much of that he is. I mean the first thing that I saw from this book on twitter when the book drops was the most baseline. How are you gonNA call yourself no buckets? If you don't average twenty points per game and that's that's what we're dealing with that's the mindset that we're dealing with a very and I'm not saying this in an insulting way but based off of his actions and his reactions. Kevin Durant is a sensitive person again. That's not in Psalm. Not Trying to insult the guy in the UA sensitive if people say. Shit about me on twitter. I'm a human being like depending on my mood. It might make me feel a certain way but this is the arguably the best player on earth right now. Kevin durant playing for arguably the best team in NBA history and he can't even handle a beloved role guy on the bench and most space getting a little bit of limelight. Because he feels it's taking it away from him and that's Kevin Durant nutshell. Yeah do you WanNa talk about the big takeaway here? Obviously some of the Steph Curry Kevin or anything and other STEPH CURRY DID ANYTHING. But you kind of mentioned it. They're just the insecurity that Katy built there and when it comes into regards to thunder fans and just not even necessary thunder fans. But I guess Kevin's relationship with okay. See is I think when he left for Golden State after reading this book. I think that Kevin felt like he knew that they were going to be some backlash right. Now how much? I don't think he was quite prepared for but I think he. He knew that he was gonna take a moment but I think eventually he thought he would get the moniker of little old. Kevin durant and being the franchise sweetheart again. I thought he was going to be. He thought he was going to be able to earn that. And I think he learned that he was never going to be the franchise little sweetheart because that was always going to be steph curry in. That sounds so obvious to us but I truly think Kevin thought he could. He could get that back he could get that love and adoration that he had an Oklahoma City. He thought he could obtain that elsewhere. And at some point in his time and Golden State he realized he was Never GonNa get it. He was never going to get it because there were someone else now. Locker Room who had already had it. And there's only one of those just like when Kevin was here. Do you who everyone hated on Russell. Non Stockley nonstop. It's fan base can only have one guy who can do no wrong right like there's only one and I Kevin learned that lesson and he just became sensitive to it became very obvious to it but I think that was something that he learned in those first couple years. Not only does the national be right but even the Golden State fans don't love me like I think they should because they love Steph curry and I think I think that is the root of everything. The reason he ended up leaving Golden State. Because he wasn't Steph and which again super obvious for us but for some reason I feel like he thought they could love staff in Kevin the same way like they would love both of them a great basketball players and they can both hate a lot of threes and make lay ups. In the Kevin's is those. Two things were synonymous before he got to stay. If I'm the best player I'm also the most beloved player when a Reality Desert obviously two very separate things. Yeah let's just quote the man himself. I mean the climax of this chapter in my opinion is the press conference where Kevin Durant calls out. Even Strauss's are you can strauss by name and throws him under the bus and it became that whole store. We all remember when that went down that night. I mean I certainly do. It was a twitter story was a national story for about a week and even Strauss kind of called it. He wrote in that article and then he quoted it in the book. Where like now? We're going to have this weird argument. About how professional athletes are just put up on by aggressive like attack based media? When we're missing the entire point that the best player on earth is trying to leave or probably wants to leave the best team on. Earth. That's true but Kevin Durant in that press conference. What did he say he said? All I WANNA do is go to the gym hoop and go home now. That's inherently silly. Because Kevin if you WANNA do that quit your job. Go to the Y. Go do that and then go home. You won't have any fans trolling you at at the arena. You'll have media waiting for you when you're done playing. That's what you want. So when Kevin goes to golden state that's how he fuses job that I'm just here to play basketball. Which that's fine but as we any career like I cover the thunder. I do more than just cover the thunder you do more than just produce. Monday through Friday for the triple m ranch. You do a lot more than that. Kevin just can't seem to get that so when he goes to golden state he just think. I'm a better player than Steph Curry. Like if we were just if I was just joining his exhibition team I would be the best player on the team. Therefore it's my team and that's how his mind apparently seems to think when he just forget the entire aspect of it's a professional sport you're able to make millions of dollars because the fan interest because of media interest and the Phantom media have a part to play and they have. Their part is basically the narrative. The narrative is already set. You Join Steph. Curry's team Steph. Curry is one of the best players of all time that ain't GonNa Change and he wasn't able to cope with it. Yeah I agree with you that that is the Ethan. Strauss stuff that press conferences a a really high climax something that had happened and this is not like newfound information but something that I just forgot existed until I read it in this book and I was like. Oh my God. How do we not just talk about that for six straight months is the two thousand eighteen championship hurried when everyone now whether they have Bob Fitzgerald? Who is there? I think he's play by play guy. I'm not entirely sure. But he works for the team and he's says he's going in for some jokes he's that I heard you tell Kevin he can have whatever contract he wants next year. Fitzgerald. To- Bob Myers. That was just for the media Myers rigged. You have anything like that. At all. Myers added Curry. Interjected mid level reference to the modest mid-level exception. I think last year you told Steph Curry. He could have con- whatever contract he wanted. Fitzgerald said not letting it go while referencing Kef Steph. Curry's recently sized supermax two hundred million dollar contract. Yeah that was different. He's been here from the way before days. He's earned it. Yeah I mean even if he wants even if he wants to claim that he was being made about it in that. I'm going to poke fun at the narrative that is surrounding Kevin Durant. I'm going to poke fun at it. You still don't even say it because people aren't going to take it that way. They're they're not inside your head off chilled. They gets you. You can't get away with saying that so I mean while everyone's going to point laugh at Kevin Durant for being soft or being sensitive and leaving the one of the best teams ever assembled. I mean right there. There's an example of the Warriors. Not really doing everything they could to make. Kevin Durant feel appreciated to feel simply like a teammate on one of the best teams on earth and then when the time came to feel like the best guy on the floor because as much as Steph curry is one of the best players on earth when he's healthy when the warriors are rolling and then his legacy is pretty much secured at this point. He's only adding to it. As far as I'm concerned he he changed the damn game like the game that we're watching right now is different than the one we watched before. Steph became steph curry but when push comes to shove Kevin Durant on that team. Katie's the best player on the on the floor. So yeah I mean both sides have some mistakes were made but I mean that's just one little tiny example that is at least well documented that you can kinda point to say well. It's not all cabins fall when when it comes to the Golden State situation. Yeah it. It's it's again just one of those things that like. Even the warriors were very aware with how unconventional an unnatural. It was for Kevin to be there right subconsciously. Even if it wasn't a conscious thing maybe in their heads and it was a seamless fit and he was a position that they need to fill because Harrison. Barnes wasn't a future hall of Famer and they only start future hall of famers all that aside even subconsciously you could tell it was unnatural that Kevin was there because he really wasn't there guy like he was a superstar made somewhere else that they were just simply benefiting from these stories about Kevin going up to media members because of articles they had written to. He had clearly read and like had issue with is fascinating. There's a handful of them in here but this stands out to me for a very obvious reason. I generally prefer to keep the locker room. Keep to the locker in the pressures. Because they're actually just a chance of information that no one else might have. Also there's a better shot at seeing something hilarious. They're having a little conference conversation. Press conferences usually are bore so while looking at Kevin I started said look I think and this is Ethan Strauss. Having argument Kevin about something he had written but Katie interrupted me. And just just in the way I'm used to. He swerved his head looked around. The locker said Bro. Not So loud. Everybody doesn't need to be hearing. Us going back and forth confused. I looked around the room and seeing the threat. Quinn cook a friend of Kevin who was standing next to us but the kings impressively cautious locker room was otherwise empty. The fact Kevin was mad enough about something to go after the media member directly right. Get into an argument with Ethan Strauss. But he obviously knew it was weird for him to be that mad that he didn't want to get caught arguing with the media member by his teammates is like ten out of ten. What are you doing like what are you doing? Like that. Doesn't make any logical sense to me that he would want to keep the copacetic with his teammates where nothing bothers me I'm just here to Hoop Yada. Yada Yada but on the back end trying to Barade- media members behind closed doors like those things. Don't add up and it's just it's just so many layers to Kevin that just are clearly show that he is obsessed with how he is perceived or what people think about. He just can't stop it obviously. There's the podcast story that we can talk about as well but like the the podcast portion of this book. Where he's talking about the the one he listened to and that story about him worried about what Quinn. Cook of all Quin freaking Cook. Thinks about him is just. It's just it just tells volumes about Kevin and I'll actually pile pile on that and add to it 'cause I bought the physical copy of the book and then I also bought the audio book so depending on what I'm doing I could. At least keep keep up with reading it and I didn't even need the audio book I just read the book The physical copy. Whatever I said last week like two or three days and So for the slightly last days. I've just been listening to the audiobook narrated by and Strauss himself and there was this one situation or Ethan had either tweeted something or wrote something I can't exactly remember. But he walk into the practice facility and Kevin Durant just Kinda saunters over and just basically yelled at. Ethan like not in a scrum. But just like after Kevin's getting shots up. And he goes to the media walking in so you kind of walks back over there. Says you don't know what you don't know what makes me happy. The funny thing is I'll show this to you to talk to. You is when Ethan is narrating it. He he goes all in on trying to make. Kevin durant sound so weak in that situation. And Maybe Ethan is just drawing his memory of. That's what Kevin Durant stand it like when he said it to me right because I mean the exact quote like it's very easy to discern that. Yeah he's probably getting that quote is to you. Don't know me. You don't know what makes me happy. That's exactly yeah I need. I need to show you the I need to let you listen to the actual audiobook recording of it. It's just it's Kinda funny. I'll just say this if that happened to me or if that happened in any other media member that covers the thunder on a consistent basis. I mean yeah you just have to sit there and take it. Because it's not like a confrontational thing where you can argue back and forth openly with a player let alone a player like Kevin Durant but as soon as like that situation is over and done with. It's just nothing. But what the hell was that? It was over. Nothing was ever something. So miniscule in again. It's just tiny little things that just kept poking Kevin Durant and as talented as he is as great as he is. He's a hall of fame or he could very well win more championships with Brooklyn Nets for all we know from this point on but man even if he was prepared for all the negative backlash. There's just something about him that it the mental aspects of the game. That don't surround. You know what goes on on the floor but what goes on off the floor he is just not acquit or prepared to deal with in a positive way because he's created negative situations back and forth. Yeah and obviously there's a story in here about Andrea would Dala and festus zeal. Just someone I forgot existed until I was reading the book Pulling Ethan Strauss into the players only portion of the locker room and if one of those exist okay so you maybe besides the shower there. There's one there's one where they the players it's catty corner to the locker room down the hall where they go to get food basically okay. So they're in this players only area in Audrey is basically saying. Hey man have you talked to Kevin. You talked to Kevin and go back and forth and Ethan's basically saying I didn't do anything wrong you know and so I'm not going to really do anything in Andrei basically tells them like you're going to have to apologize because that's the only way this is going to be over. We all know it. The team knows it. Everyone knows this is how it works with. Kevin doesn't matter if you're right or wrong you have to apologize. Who Does that sound like? It sounds like I have a nine year old sister like. That's the way I used to treat my cousin who was like ten years younger than I was when I was sixteen. Unity like that is just. That is insane behavior especially the fact that fourteen other grown men new. That's the only way you could talk to Kevin and it becomes very very clear because the Draymond Green Kevin Durant blow up. And they're playing the clippers. That happened on. Television is about two thirds of the way this chapter if because very very clear that if anyone was going to finally given break those rules and stop caring it was gonna be draymond green and it's easy to see why there was such friction and frustration inside the locker. And what's even crazier to me. While I was reading this and thinking about that exact situation the back the teammates they had to cater to basically every one of his whims and know that he was going to be upset or feeling her about the didn't matter and apologize. He wasn't going to apologize. They had to do with basically apologized. Aaron how did none of those stories happen in Oklahoma City? They didn't happen. But how do we not hear any of those ever? Did he change what that was something? I just pondered for hours. I mean if you're asking about like why. Why didn't we hear about that in Oklahoma City? I think it's as simple as his role as a member of the Oklahoma City Thunder. It wasn't a business arrangement. He was drafted and developed organically. I mean of course develops his game in his own right but he was developed organically by the Oklahoma City Thunder. He was he was that team. He was the leader that team on the floor of the best player on the team over Russell Westbrook. There's no question about that. And this whole situation. Just basically speaks to the prevailing thought that Kevin Durant joining. The warriors was the most business arrangement situation. Perhaps in sports history like the easiest the easiest thing that you can point to as as a you like a comparable situation is Lebron James. Going in the Miami Heat. Of course like at the time. Lebron had to deal with the negative backlash for about a year and then the second season they won the championship and Lebron gets annoyed. Like this is now league. Everybody loves him at that point because people look at the situation they didn't like how he necessarily left in that particular situation leaving the cavaliers and then the idea of superstars teaming up I think at the time with it being a new thing fans in early appreciated but as time wore on. You really saw that Miami. He team develop and learn how to play with each other and then once they actually figured it all out. It was beautiful to watch. They played very well together and they still had to work for it. Kevin Durant joined the seventy three wins. He they didn't have to learn anything ran even care. They didn't even care about team chemistry. Now I'm not a fool. I know not every single sports team that's ever been successful. Have all love each other like in terms of the roster me watching the last answer. I think that's pretty apparent. Not Every single. Good team has perfect chemistry. Look long game. Asli did not only say he did not want to be in the last ends documentary. He actually told the director to go fuck himself exactly like but at the same time. There is a level of respect admiration for your teammates. Because if you're successful that respect is there the warriors I'm sorry but that situation that anecdote with it would all in the players only lounge? That doesn't speak about respect. That just speaks about that just speaks about make this easy bej speaks about make it easier for me? That makes sense right. No you're you're spot on okay. The podcast a portion of this so another beat reporter. Uh God bless and of course. His name is pretty tough. I don't know who it is. I apologize to the man. I'm sure he's a Saint Army. No no see I can't even I can't even take a shot at it. I'm sure he's a great guy who doesn't credible journalism. He just has a last name. That's a disaster okay. So this be rewarded writes an article or sorry is on a podcast fan podcast so we all know what. Fan podcast are right. Non Media members talking about their favorite team. There's nothing wrong with them. They need to exist for a reason. I know they hold a very good spot especially here in Oklahoma City. There's a handful that are very successful. And I think there's a place for them. But they're not they're not what I would say like if you're from Philadelphia right and you're trying to get information on the Oklahoma City Thunder. You probably not finding fan podcast. You're you'RE GONNA find media podcast right in. Espn one or whatever you gotTa Yada Yada Anyway. So this beat reporter goes onto a podcast and his asked about the Kyrie Irving situation and the rumors and so on and so forth so this beat reporter says basically that he thought Kevin and Kyri were a package deal just to summarize it very shortly which ended up being true and Kevin got all up in his feels about. It was very upset and then he let out one of one of the most puzzling things. I've ever read as a quote from a professional athlete. Do you know what what do you know where I'm going with this? Yeah go ahead. Katie said quote. I hear I read everything. And don't you forget it Kevin and saying that multiple times I read in. I hear everything. If it's got my name in it I know about it. Yeah Kevin Durant admitting that he's omnipresent was not the plot twist I was expecting. Wow who would've known this a really good assault a lot of confrontation in the Middle East. If we knew Kevin was with everywhere at once he was he was Dr. Manhattan from watchmen. What would what was the over under chances on a Middle Eastern Global Politics? Joke on this podcast. Oh I mean I mean hey if people are going to bet on it I mean I would imagine. Gamblers are looking for anything to bet on. Trust me as one I am. Well I mean look. It's really hard for me to like Super Dog pile on Kevin Durant for something like this just because like I already said like I. I had to learn this. Doing Post game shows over the last two years for the station. I'd always have tweet deck open basically so if there was news coming out of the arena. I wanted to get it in real time. And then do my best to relay information as quickly as possible to the listeners. But then sometimes you might have somebody that just jumps into your mentions that just said something terrible about you and most of the time you know you just shrug it off. At least I try to. And then there's that one situation where man. I think next time I'm just GonNa not have tweet deck open so I don't want to pile on. Kevin Durant is from the human connection of like. Look if people say bad things about you or things that about you that are true that would affect me in a certain way and he has deal with that all the time because he's Kevin Durant but that's the price you have to pay. That's the price that Michael Jordan had to pay. We've seen that what he had to sacrifice. Right what Lebron James has to pay you just have to be able to compartmentalize it enough where you can worry certain articles that are written by bigger journalists that maybe one hundred percent false like if you have a problem with that sure call that out that that's bullshit. If it's if it's just completely unfounded but should that fan say I'm sorry like you can have many burner counts as you want? You'RE NOT GONNA win every little twitter battle against fourteen year old warriors fans or Philly fans or thunder fans like. It's a it's a fool's errand right. It absolutely is a cousin. A lot on this podcast. We've ever caught doing this doing this. These episodes well in my defense. I quoted Kevin Durant with the first one and then I was the second one oh I quoted Luc Longley with the with the second one and what are the odds of me quoting Luc Longley on a Warriors Book podcast? I don't know a million to one but the ground okay. So obviously we're about. We're about at the half the half hour mark so we'll just get anything else we think we miss and truthfully we only talked really about chapter five. There's a lot of great stuff in chapter six to do a little bit more of the last few games and through the playoffs portioned as Kevin was kind of fading in and out. Which if you watched those series was very apparent. Thought we should jump into I. This isn't my podcast but I'll just make a little pivot suggestion because shorter bill can because we don't have sports for the foreseeable future. I mean we can just focus on Jeter five for this podcast and then the following chapters for another podcast next week. Oh yeah sure. Sure sure let's do that. 'cause we haven't actually picked out the next book either and that will give us an additional week to kind of get ahead on on figuring out what the next book will be. That'd be good so we'll do six seven and eight next week progress. Yeah in this chap this chapter was fifty eight pages so I mean it's a lot chapter five. Oh yeah and it's I mean this is again. This is the reason why people bought this book was to get all the juice on Kevin. Durant what it's like and and look I appreciate Ethan. Strauss revealing that. Hey I tried to reach out to Kevin Durant for You know for his thoughts for his perspective on the things. I'm going to write about but that I mean I don't really know how to describe this but knowing the relationship that you have with Kevin Durant and I'm not trying to throw either person under the bus here but or especially you can Strauss but knowing the relationship that you have. He knew he wasn't going to give him his perspective. He knew he had to know that now. Easing might have left a lot of stuff on the cutting room floor with this book. I know there have been handled handles the things that I've written over the last few years where I can't use that. I can't use that so you you. Kinda lose even a Lotta perspective when you're reading. Somebody's perspective that that makes sense but I'm just I cannot wait for the day when Kevin is either close to retirement or he's already retired and then hopefully by then he's mature enough to understand that you know what I'm just not going for care. What some fourteen year old on twitter says about me. Here's what actually I was thinking. Here's where I went wrong. I cannot wait for that day. We get his side of the story. Because we're not gonNA get it now. No No. We're not here's what I will say though that you know because I agree with you. The Strauss relationship with Kevin writes pretty obviously torn. Ethan was the Kevin knew about the book during that press conference that he blew up and so I I did have this thought of would. This book have been his harsh and as honest. If that's the way you phrase it which I think I might as honest as it is if Kevin didn't blow up in that press conference. Would Ethan have pulled held the cards a little bit closer chest? Maybe pulled out a few of these stories and filled it with some other stuff. I think I think there's a big possibility that maybe this okay fine. If you think I'm an asshole and you think I'm a jerk then I guess I'll just air out everything I'll just tell everybody everything because there's no relationship to salvage clearly. Yeah and look I think the philosophical big picture that this book especially this chapter really in. I might be reaching for this but I. I just can't help. Think about this whenever players get upset at the media for things that ended up turning out to be true did did Kevin Durant carrier and go to the Knicks. No they went to the next so they ended up playing together in New York. You know basically it was right. They just got Eamon. Oh well what I think really the speaks to. You is just where we are. Living in the PL- player empowerment generic generation rightfully so the players deserve all the influence and Power. That they deserve. Or the reason why we watch these damn games not because of the owners or because say impressed if you watch them because Kevin Durant Russell Westbrook no doubt but when players are able to manufacture manipulates create legacies for themselves in the present. They enjoy it. They enjoy the fruits of their labor. But then when people start to become privy about it they then lose a little bit of that control and I think this is just an example of superstar players realizing well. We can't do all this in a secretive vacuum like people are finding out because they're reading our lips or because they're getting some information from sources behind the scenes or you just can't keep a secret and I think that players not being able to have one hundred percent secrecy your trust with the decisions that they're going to make. I think they just are going to always be at odds with that. I understand it if you know if. I'm if I'm going to leave for another job and I know it's to happen six months from now and people are talking about it because you know my buddy told somebody in that person called somebody. I would think about a minute just to be clear it would. It would upset me but at the end of the day. It's like that's not gonNA change the ultimate result so I can't really get mad at it. So Oh well yeah. You're you're absolutely right all right man. This has been a very fun podcasts. I really enjoyed this one. I don't know if everybody else will but I hadn't done and we'll do a the next three chapters next week. Let's get call by you. This is why you're the professional but Brady I appreciate as always man. Thank you Ma'am appreciate all and has a formal announcement. The okay eighty two weekly show restarted started backup this week Wednesday. Oh Yes we'll be relaunching that podcast so everyone gets excited for that as well. It go subscribe to the podcast. Sure you already are all right. Brady catch the brother thank you.

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Racist Phil Jackson

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

05:21 min | 4 months ago

Racist Phil Jackson

"It's father's day at kohl's even though kohl's believes dads deserve more than just one day. They deserve to be recognized every day. That's why they have tons of awesome gifts. Dads are gonna love year round from outdoor entertaining to team apparel in assessories to watch baseball. Hats and fur doors to active wear from top brands like nike adidas under armour. You'll find all his favorite things at kohl's so shop now at kohls dot com. It's the perfect way to thank. All the dads in your life get ready to rock with the new peacock original. We are lady parts. A meters world is filled with societal expectations. What to way who to date and how to act but in a spirit of punk he refuted stay in one box see learned that she doesn't have to choose to be just one thing especially when she meets the all female muslim punked man lady parts. The bold and unapologetic six part series has something for everyone. Humor heart and lots epic punk music. Every episode of we are lady parts is streaming now exclusively on peacock sign up at peacock tv dot com to get started. I guys junior is here with sports. Talk what you got junior. What is going on with scottie. Pippin oh my god scotties out here rattling and feathers people now. He has a book coming out. Okay now in man. He has a book coming out called unguarded. Now in this book scottie. Pippen says dr phil. Jackson was a racist. Now i've never heard that phil jackson ever. You never heard nothing about it. And he's got to conclude. It was a game against the knicks. Scott scottie. Pippen was on the sideline with toni. Kukoc in the huddle and phil. Jackson drew play for tony. Kukoc to hit the game. Winning shot and not scotty pippin pippin game and the toni kukoc those hit the shot. Now where is the racist. He the white mansion black. I thought this was basketball. That's what i thought this was. He didn't call you names and net. This is about the least racist thing. I can see real deal with that scott. Yeah way too much stuff going on. And this is the crazy part then. He says he was not giving up. Credit that michael jordan was not the real leader in the locker room. He would and he didn't get any respect from the organization or the press. Now this you got a book coming out but we saw to move over documentary. Dr milan solid show. Look like the lead in the move through on now so he skulls got it. Isn't that a good look man. I mean he going at everybody. Kevin durant kevin durant came win the championship without any help. That this is kind of ironic. What i don't know what's got it talking about. I mean you did have michael jordan. I don't know what the hell ever are. Gotcha six re. When jordan retired in two years. Where was you at so we talk about. Elitist got i mean. You had two years to get one you. Didn't he came back. You got three. Mo- satellite you need your. That's that's what i think. I think scott. Who was writing. A boom scotty. Could've made some off color remarks but really see how he could've thought he could put that in. The book aren't brennan. Yeah he wants to sell a lot of books he got to be all. This could be folks. Because i don't. I don't know why you make that commitment. I mean like you said we saw it now. We saw one and we saw we saw. When you did it was about michael jordan and what. Rest ios in all right. Thank you junior. Coming up at the top of the hour are your twenties really the best years of your life Think about that. We'll talk about it right after this. You're listening steve harvey morning. Show me me me me me. Also you the payroll fast. Forwards is favourite born film if at powder or not okay. What's my line The only line. I see here. Script is get options based on your budget with the name your price tool from progressive. Oh man that's a tongue twister I'm sorry i'm getting a few more minutes bull. This wall risk the bogus. Well risk the name your price tool from progressive. The our nfl of the comatose coxswain casualty insurance coverage match limited by state law. Everything about child because there's nothing that they're not renew is. I knew that this is going on. I would have went out there and brought my child back when africa hardy died in two thousand fourteen. It seems completely random but it was. It was part of a pattern this his algorithm a podcast investigating a modern serial killer and how he could have been stopped within to algorithm. Now on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your favorite shows.

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Hour 1: Lights, Camera, Dak-tion

First Take

26:22 min | 2 months ago

Hour 1: Lights, Camera, Dak-tion

"Hi hello welcome into. I take on this friday eve. Good news out of nap town. Max kellerman hello. Hello stephen smith how we doing good all doing. Oh i am. He's been out in. La it's unbelievable. Always tell him no. No no no no. I said he said you seem so happy. And i said i always tell him. He seems so much happier in la. He's just live in l. a. And i love having him in studio. Don't get me wrong but it's like you belong in that sunshine. You just seem more relaxed. Like you're you're just. I like i like. La steve the sunshine does do a little bit for you. I mean you know. As i've sold people you know that that that that statement that adage the sun will shine to margaret certainly will it really really really is true hundred times a year in la. We'll we'll say that. I will say that i mean. Hey you know just you work very hard and i'm glad you get to enjoy it. Sometimes things got a film more scenes for blackish. Today do that more today. amazing show. I love that show. Cast it's hilarious. It's so good phenomenal. Know quite how we have so many behind the scenes like what's the deal now. I won't think we're going to do that. I mean that's up to them. That's up to them. I mean i gotta have people talk to their people you know we figured out you know but but but but i would tell you anthony anderson. Beer they're super that he is he gonna make that. We gonna social call. We're gonna do the show okay. I i don't get out much. These days. All right ti- times over good news out of indy carson wentz and quinton nelson are trending toward recovering from foot injuries In time for next month's regular season opener against the seahawks sources told chris mortensen now when to underwent surgery august second. We'll start as rehab next week. Who's at the colts. Training camp practice tuesday without a walking boot and without limping. The colts announced last week that both players would be sidelined five to twelve weeks after undergoing operations to repair the same foot injury. The team hopes to have a better indication of ballplayers players rehabilitation status. Once they get past the two week post-surgery mark that wins had a career year when he last played for the colts. head coach. frank reich. Right was eagles offensive coordinator in two thousand seventeen when when's posted a career best. Seventy eight point five. Qbr in thirty three passing touchdowns. Max you have been. I would say a little critical of carson wentz. Is that fair a lot adam. Yeah right right because you know. He had a breakout season. One sylvania autumn. Mvp that you yeah okay. Do you believe that he can have a bounceback season this year. Now that he's with such a talented team and with his former coach that he had success with. No no because see those stats. We just showed when we say bounced back. That's what we're really talking about. Everybody can he get back to the heights. He hit frank reich right. Oh what's the excuse. You got a team around your frank reich. No because in two thousand seventeen carson. Wentz wasn't just a starting quarterback. He was the best player in football. Season would continued like that. He was gonna win. Mvp now since then mahomes has come around and some guys better than whence was even then put certainly a bounceback season would mean. He's elite again. Elite is not gonna lead since then. Don't forget the next year was a disappointment. They were five and six under five and five and six five hundred just under five hundred. When he went down team was flat. They're going to miss. The playoffs foles came in again. They caught fire made. The playoffs won a playoff game without wins. And since then it's been down down down. I know other people have been saying. Always really good but i kept noticing an continued downward trend and then eventually he lost to kenny bounce. Back from a guy who can't start. Yes yes from that he can. Because you can't do any worse you know. He lost his job last year because he was the worst starter in football. He will not be that again. Did frank reich helped him when he was in philly absolutely. Yes that's what i hear. you know. Doug peterson was the head coach. But it was frank right and the filippo who were really the guys working with him at the time but you know something if lippo is in chicago and frank reich while he did good work with carson wentz from everything. I hear out of philly. He was a good cup. The flip was the bad cop and you know what carson wentz needs right. now he needs the bad cop he needs the guy to tell him to hold them accountable every every step of the way not just to so much of his game is these amazing athletic plays that very few other people can do. He's a tough guy. Played through injury high threshold for pain and make these amazing place so that the little details go by the wayside. Def- filipa was that guy not according to everything. I hear stephen. And that's the guy he would need. At least he is not going to bounce back to what he was in two thousand seventeen. I feel where you come in from an understanding. Then i'll give you credit. What creditors do because it's consistent with what you've been saying fair enough but i think they're carson wentz could definitely have a bounce back year this she. I got a lot of faith in him. I think that last year was an extreme aberration. I think that we've learned in the aftermath of of seeing the things that have transpired at philadelphia that it was an absolute mess He wasn't on. The same page is doug peterson. Doug peterson wasn't on the same page as howie roseman and as a result You know the owner. Jeffrey loria found himself in the quadri. Because roseman was a guy. You recall back in the days. When chip kelly was there once upon a time when chip kelly i arrived. He was given all that power and once we realized that he was an absolute mess. What they did was the howie roseman. They have moved out there and brought back in power him ultimately winning a super bowl particularly wants cost and went went down and nick foles came in and filled in admirably as he did. But then from that day on cost wins had something to prove. They had to make a decision about him between nick. Foles nick foles and him were battling for the lock. We'll because nick was beloved carson wentz not so much even though a lot of dudes respected them other dudes were devout divided on him to say the least and then you had issue with strategy and all of that stuff. So the philadelphia. Eagles situation was an absolute mess. They should have been running the ball. More shouldn't have passed as much. Some of the play calling. That doug peterson was doing roseman. And those guys weren't happy about it. That's the situation that exists in philadelphia. That's not what's going on here. In indianapolis frank reich is a man who you know his relationship with 'cause wednesday back to the days of philadelphia. Jonathan taylor is coming off an eleven hundred. Eleven hundred yard rushing season averaging five yards a. Carry t. y. Hilton is still there. Mike pittman is still there. So when you look at some of the weapons particularly with the offensive line and quinton nelson expected to be back the gay one just like 'cause wins. Due to that foot surgery i think that when you look at the personnel surrounding costs and went. It says that there's no way in hell. This year is going to be as bad as last year. And that's all you need idi annapolis to really make a run for the division crown. Oh he'll be better. How as i said how could he be worse but see. I don't agree that it was just a mess last year. And that's why carson wentz. I saw down your friend i saw. Yes and the year before. That's my point member whenever it was like. Oh he's the mvp conversation almost carson wentz the way. He carried the eagles too. The division crown what i saw in the second half of two thousand nineteen especially but even predated. That was a guy who's every single part of his game had gone backwards every part of his game and he was turning the ball over on third down in the fourth quarter and they would be lucky to recover the ball and then he would make a spectacular play but it was all this regression in every single category as a quarterback and he seemed to think he was with cats meow. Simple question before we move on molly and is is question to both. Y'all we're talking about the quarterback position So my relationship with the coach is not the greatest. My relationship inside. The locker room wasn't the greatest because it was the locker room divided because you had a lot of people who felt that you should roll with nick foles and obviously that didn't happen you know that the head coach and the g. m. on sort of or full operation eight on the same page with him and how he rosement and you're also in the midst in the middle of all of that because you don't necessarily vob with the coach you're not vibe and with the locker room and you know that the organization is going to at least have to consider trading you so you nick. Suryadi is the coach now. Okay the head. Coach is gone all right. Your quarterback is gone. You got a lot of scituate. You got a lot of stuff that has happened. What quarterback do you know succeeds. Under those circumstances. Yeah and i want to add one more thing to buffer that point stephen and you mentioned the online whence was sacked fifty times last season. That's the most in the nfl and now he joins a team which is some with but with the second best ole line in the nfl so he has to be thrilled about having better protection. I get that some of his phone. Not all of it. All of it molly hurts wasn't sacked. Jalen hurts will took what shifty times every single time has come on the team game. The point is to point to his sack. Total and blame the eagles. Why wasn't jalen hurts. Getting roughed up like that. Jalen is not exactly an all pro quarterback. You can't and the offense was working better with jalen hurts. This is what i mean. So many excuses are made for carson. Wentz he was awful last year and he was bad the year for two. Can we all agree. He's on a team with a better align. oliver. Look no excuses. As i would say. Look at the colts roster. No extremely that we. We did your quarterback. Now let me get to stephen as quarterback so it was revealed on hard knocks dak prescott had two surgeries this off season. Not just after the gruesome october injuring the giants game. We all saw the second surgery was to strengthen its deltoid ligament clean out the ankle and make it more structurally sound. It was not related to the october injury but was reportedly found after doctors went in for that initial surgery now in the bright side after consecutive days of throwing prescott has experienced no residual soreness in his right shoulder strain in his Hoping to return to practice on a full-time basis next week in potentially play. August twenty second against the houston texans but then the cowboys official twitter account tweeting this. It's not a setback. It's not a reason to worry. The quarterback dak prescott is planning on getting another. Mri steven. It's too much of the cowboys season riding on dak prescott right now. Is that a trick. Question is it. Should it be but when you look at it. It really should be. But i'm just saying. I mean literally. Legitimate argument is it probably is. I mean who the hell is their backup. I don't know. I don't know. I mean i'm just wondering right now part the i'm trying not to laugh and the reason i'm trying not to laugh molly is because it is. I don't want that Dak prescott engine had a wish that on anybody one of the healthy and the go out the and play actually hope. He has a good season. I just hope the cowboy fan sake. They lose because. I don't feel like hearing those nauseating disgusting fans. I really really really done. I can't stand cowboy fans but here's the deal. Isn't it amazing that not even two. Preseason games have been played in all of these damn headlines about dax health and. I'm sorry i mean. Forgive me for asking this question. But since you're you're damn near cracks you leg in half okay and was out with the surgery and everything else. How in the hell are we having a situation where right now dak prescott have an mri on his shoulder and stuff like that. What the hell would you doing. See what's going on. We throw in a wheelchair. Something where you're throwing on crutches. We'll you know what is what. Why are you having arm issues. I just don't understand it. I i really really don't but in the end it's just another thing i always tell you. Just wait. just be patient. They won't let you down. These are the cowboys that we're talking about. Something will happen something. And i don't know what is i. Don't know what it is but every single year something happens it's whole day are it's just. Ooh and this is the latest. Now we got my man. louis riddick. Watching get up this morning. Before i come in and my poor brother louis riddick you got to think about calling monday night football games and guess what you when it comes to the cowboys. I mean it might not be there. I mean louis riddick is sitting up there looking very concerned now. My concerns growth. It's always something this is who they. Oh so once again. Max just wait just wait. If it's not this it'll be something else. It's who they are going to chase max. They're going to be the same old way back down. They don't let you down. They let other people down but seriously not us. But stephen eight. Don't get ahead of yourself because you want them to reach certain heights that the full for the fans is more meaningful. Right for the cowboys. They don't think too early. Says they could even win. Some games without dak prescott. Early early so is your. Here's the thing first of all. It's hilarious to me that the cowboys tweet that out that you remember naked gun stephen leslie. Nielsen has nothing to see here. Please disperse and there's you know the guys. The chalk outline hits a crime scene. That's when i see a tweet like that from the cowboys. Nothing to see here please. Don't worry he's getting an mri on his on his shoulder to shoulder that it was reporting that you found out during hard knocks due to shoulder surgeries than that. That's the shoulder. He's getting an mri. If i'm a cowboys fan and you see that tweet and don't panic now. More panic not a reason to worry. Why is he getting them. Or i know why. Because he's worried. Okay that's number one number two as it relates to relying too heavily on dak prescott. This the nfl. You must rob peter to pay paul paul. If you ever dude. Who's coming up and you gotta give them forty million a year in a long term deal. Guess what ain't a lot of money left for a backup quarterback. What are you gonna drastic. I like what they did with. Once they knew that was different. They knew going in the wrong direction. Spent a second round draft pick and west. Just like what's going on. What are they going to do. What the packers did you trying to get a talent in there behind aaron rodgers. He wants to leave. You're going to bring in a young kid with potential behind back after you just gave him a contract. You're not gonna do that. What are you going to go. Get a veteran who you can get. You're not going to spend real money on a veteran. How much money do you wanna tie up in the quarterback position. You know who backs up patrick. Mahomes chad henny. If patrick mahomes ghost town season over knock wood. That doesn't happen. But this is the case for every team with an extremely high paid franchise quarterback of course the seasons riding on them. One last thing. Stephen when when we say the seasons right on writing on them. Let's not forget. Last time was healthy. For a whole season they went eight nate. So what's really riding on them. A five hundred record. Max molly based on what we're talking about here and some of the just just instantly see about season that the dallas cowboys the habit. I sat here just now in this moment. I have made a decision. I think i'm going to go to a dallas cowboy game this year at. At and t. Stadium i think i'm gonna show up. Yeah i think i'm gonna show up in big. I mean i got a time it for when you know at a time. When if they lose is going to really really really make the miserable. I mean they really be depressed about it. I got i got. I got i gotta pick it. I got to pick the right gate. Wait till it all height and they hyped it ready to roll the everybody's ecstatic and excited and and i know they're gonna fall is got to be one of those games and i'm just i'm just to show up at. At and t. stadium. Y'all i'm going to show up there. I think i'm gonna go to a game there this year. I'm looking forward to it. I'm gonna show up. I'm gonna show yes trying to see what game that might be. The giants in october. The eagles in late september. Now no no many no. it'd be many. He could look at it. I just wanna be clear though. It was to ankle surgeries. That he had guys to hang. Sorry yeah i said shoulder right now. He's dealing with a shoulder injury. Now ankle surgery. You want throwing throwing football line. Brunches already had two surgeries on the show that he's getting more whole. 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It's not just history books and social media y'all we contain multitudes. Everyone deserves to be heard so. Listen follow unless abba conversation. This follow black history. Always wherever you get your podcast. Brooklyn's big three secure in the bag. Kevin durant already got paid signing reported four year one hundred and ninety eight million dollar contract extension and now the nets fully expect to have all of their big three signed. A contract extensions before training camp even starts general manager. Sean mark said as much wednesday before their severally game against the bucks. Kevin durant already has been extended and marks confirmed long-term deals for the nets other superstars. James harden and kyrie irving shouldn't be far off. Either all right so max. Everybody's getting paid before the start of the season. Tell me which member of the nets. Big three is under the most pressure then easily. Kevin durant kevin durant easily. Only one. i'd say who is it. I would say he's the most in the nba by far see kevin durant. All you have to do is imagine. He's lebron james. What's all you gotta do. Kevin durant is considered by many. Maybe even most at this moment the best player in basketball he has a squad with him. That will be unquestionably if all healthy far and away. The greatest offense in the history of american team sports now. I was skeptical when they first put it together. Because i thought it will be the worst defense ever right even within a couple of weeks they were kind of a mid pack defense when those guys started getting healthy you. That's all it's going to take for them to crush everyone it were mopping the floor with the eventual champion bucks of the big. So what does this mean. It means that k. D. the best player in the world. If everyone's healthy must win the chip must. There is a lot of downside. There's upside in surrounding yourself with a super duper duper team like k. D did because you can win the championship and weather. People think stacked deck or not they start thinking of you differently. He didn't used to be called the best player in the world until he won championships and he won on a team that could lose the championship. So there's upside but there's also danger there is downside because you are not allowed to lose. Heavy is the head that wears the crown k. d. is wearing the crown he will get the credit. You will get the blame urine saying absolutely it saying he's not going to get the blame. This is a brother that had missed eighteen months You know the torn achilles comes back and let me make sure. I got his numbers right here. What he averaged the average twenty six point. Nine points per game okay. On forty five percent shooting from three point range. Fifty three percent shooting with with james harden clearly hobbled and a shell of himself and carry urban out. This brother dropped forty nine when i promise jolly give you the drought fifty. He dropped forty nine in the game. Five union predictions. This brother is such a superstar basketball player. Just one go brought home. Go for team. Usa because we know each took over okay european roles and all this other stuff olympic ruth. He said hell with that is. I'm kevin you know who i you know. Who am. that's what he did okay. that's what he did. And here's the deal when you look at james hot if you want to sit up there and talk about k. d. and it's on him because he's responsible for bringing everybody together. Remember steve nash. Eight the coach. If kevin durant doesn't approve and james harden and kyri eight there if kevin durant doesn't approve if that was the reason you were saying it i get it. But in terms of just his game everybody knows how surreal at brother is the pressure is on james audit and kyrie irving okay. James heart loved j todd but remember he wanted out of houston. They originally told them. No what does he do he comes in. He's out of shape. He's not even though you still stays still do things. Even though he was out of shape and just a shell of himself he wasn't himself. We know that caray irvine head case not to say and i don't mean that in the negative way like the brothers doing big things off the court and engaging in the level of philanthropy that he that we should all applaud but his mind being primarily on the game of basketball is always going to be a question mark for us watching him particularly during the regular season doing the postseason. He's usually ready. Okay in the end. We're looking at them to we. Were going to kevin durant. We worried about kevin durant. We know what we get from him is to other to. And you yourself said max cullum. If years james hearted he played small in the postseason. He did in the regular season and presses on him. So i don't know how you could come up with kevin durant now when it goes off and his teammate. Because this is katie's team history. I agree with that if they win as him being the best player on a championship team if they lose its k d's nets that lost when they had no chance to lose if they were healthy if they somehow lose its on k. d. And if not if we're saying not then we all have to acknowledge that there is a different standard for lebron is. There's a difference. Then you should just admit lebron still the best player in the no. I'm not going to admit that. Because i know what the hell i'm watching but what i'm saying this max because lebron is bigger than just the game of basketball kevin durant wants to who all day every day even though he's got thirty five ventures and he's doing a lot of things in the business world he's really just a who he's really perceived as just a a hoop. Lebron james is an iconic figure that's viewed as transcending this and more importantly we kyri james hearted because they are who they are. We don't ignore the day. Don't get they don't into anybody's radar. They're that big themselves. Braun is stage issue every time. He has a chance to win the championship. If lebron was on an unbeatable super team and once it was perceived he was first year. Miami he never heard the end of it. Wasn't it wasn't boss. It was lebron who never heard the end of it and this team has a chance to be much better than that. My input that would be because of what lebron brought on himself with all due respect the number the number on the jersey. He chose to wear the fact that he arrived in miami and before playing a game not for not five not six not seven he kind of things as what brought that extra attention on it wasn't just as gain it was the things he said d. bronze level. I wanna see him held to the same standard okay. I don't mind that here's c. Gentlemen expectation. there's seventy two games in the regular season right the last year. I think it goes back to issue so last year. Seventy to eighty two normal. They played together fourteen games including the playoffs. I want to see these three played again right feeding healthy and see that for sure.

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8/2/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 3 (8am-9am)

Boomer & Gio

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8/2/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 3 (8am-9am)

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Throw it back with picnic party for old school jams for your cookout or sail away with odyssey's new Station juggernaut through hundreds of new exclusive stations to check out today for summer barbecues road trips relaxing full-ti- for every move every interest every passion by odyssey brought to you in part by macy's and geico maggie was just sitting. You're saying they should look at for an athlete to host with an athlete on one of these days and i was going through some names either former look again. We current athlete will be tough but an athlete several. He's he's in japan. Who are you going to say. Kevin durant kevin durant will be a good podcast. Todd frazier also in japan. Yeah but he would have been at least one lawrence taylor. You are such a cheer bad guy who really are i. Think you're actually legitimately abed guy. Yeah now i feel like i can't even cut continuous conversation. I is not a lot. There are not a lot of guys that are just around. That could do it but you lie. He's not gonna do it. It probably pay him ninety thousand dollars for four hours. Any socks out why. Everybody wants a monday night. Football with his brother because he's hilarious. Well those two together as a draw but not for a talk show for four hours. There's no way when anything him breaking down a football trying to come up with local athletes. What about this keelan coal. He seemed like yeah. He's in the middle of the training camp. All right so we've got. That problem would have to be a basketball player. That's not in. I'll give guy sean avery. He's in california right now. Oh okay yeah. He's leaving out in la unfortunately all right but that's a good one all right so if you think he'd current athlete. Football teams are out baseball teams hockey and basketball retired in basketball and relied on al. You'd be all over this bernie. Williams williams john stocks put them together. Marian rivera in marianna guys that never disappear all right so who would be. What about spencer dinwiddie he would be. He would be great. It would be great because there's some actual news around him as well he would be great. I think dinwiddie should be very good spot. When he's been on with evan. And joe on the past a lot of personality very much so that would be a good way to a free agent. So you've got that going on. Yeah that would work anybody else. Get him in. Yeah joe harris. Talk talk about his miserable. No that that's going to work. Hey joe what happens you wanna try to shoot. Clunk columbia clunky now. That's what happened. Not so good. No but you think about you know back with boomer played you know him and his salary and then wanting to do. This job was kind of good fit. Nowadays guys who retired. They got so much money who wants to do radio. What's funny about that though is if you look at a lot of radio shows across the country now you really are getting those guys coming off the field off the court off the ice because yeah. They've got the money but they don't know what to do with themselves so it seems like this has become a path for them now. I'm not talking about the super rich. I don't mean the lebron's of the world but even current athletes that's retiring now that's made thirty or forty or fifty million dollars. They're still looking to do something. Yeah so. I do think you could find that guy. You know it would be the greatest. But there's no way he's going to well he's still playing. I'm talking about guys who are looking for something to do see tabatha. But he's so much fricken money and he does that podcast. What once a week right. he's not probably scratches. That's a good one but he would be grace about the is a good one. He made two hundred million dollars. Yeah he's gonna show up here and take phone calls he might. I don't think that's ten that to me is worth the phone call i. I think they actually didn't that phone. Call oh i guess i said no. Yeah i think saw then. Well that's not fair. You knew the answer. Apparently that's what i heard. Because he was he was actually flat out like offered a j. You wanna do it and it's yours. I liked that but not so much said no way. let's go to Denison pennsylvania. what's going on dennis. Hbo hey man you guys you guys. Oh jong franko the call. That day we do not me. We love john it was made. It was me. And i love gianfranco and we have a ball busting relationship with john franco. So it's just one of those things where it's good natured. And i also owed him one when he bolted on me when someone was approaching mean street and he put his hat down right away again. That's all. I got cornered by so i had to get them back. That's a guy that gets guy to assure call. He's on already a lot. All banks is on his station more than me a lot. He doesn't need to be on anymore. Carl banks lenny dykstra. He'd be the guy for sure Lewin carney what's going on lou. Hey guys how're you doing. What's up man. I got a good one for you. And i'm not even a basketball fan. Okay walt clyde frazier. Yeah i mean he is so he's fun- he's funny be switching into dishes. He would be but he's filling hours filling in this week. And i mean would be talking. Nba free agency a little bit. But does he talk baseball. Probably not. I think i can talk anything. It may be one thing. I'll say i said it during the playoffs. We'll say it again. I forgot how good of an analyst clyde frazier is great because he had called meaningful game in a long and it was just all about what he was wearing and how he was rhyming but once we got into those like serious basketball games in playoffs he was pointing out. Stuff a just. It was a joy yup to listen to him. And i just forgotten he'd become like a caricature of himself. Because what are you saying when the team wins. Seventeen games a year. That's she's not paying attention to him. In those spots exacts is different. Stop watching a game at the end of the european. Yup i got one for two by the way after you take the call. We'll give it to me before the call. I'd say good pairing because she's tremendous. Sarah cusack sarabi sock tremendous sarah stock big week. Ben be free agent. She knows her sports. She was a high level college athlete. I'm telling you there you go. You know who. I actually i. This popped into my head to so. They asked me that barrett sports media. They asked me to Pick like a next big thing person. So i saw on the knicks post games. And she's done some espn stuff. I think she's phenomenal. Is monica mcnutt. And that's why. I don't know who that is you have you see on the knicks post games with the in now in han. Didn't uh she's awesome. She's so good personality. Funny breaking things down. She's awesome all right. That's another one. Bring her in bringing mcnutt maggie mcnutt ring to it. Let's kevin in parsippany kid. Hey so. I have a suggestion for you guys. And and maybe because he's one of my favorite football players of all time. But i think he also has a personality and could be a little bit relevant right now training camp and that would be a nick mangold Mangled does like other sports. We know that he's we know that. I know it's a crazy hockey fan. We yeah that's true. I know we need someone to talking baseball. It has the personality. We've had him on before i don't know if you get excited about mangold angle. Listen i don't know. Because i've seen him before so i don't know there's not much of a curiosity for me. Yeah i think some of these other people that were thrown out there. There'd be a curiosity donovan mitchell doing. He's a huge mets fan. I see him tweeting about them. A lot to he tweeted a bunch of emojis after the biased. You're not getting donovan. Mitchell in here donovan. Mitchell in an off season is probably in the maldives. He might be. He's probably riding a dolphin with his wife. Seems like the guy that might do it if you gave them a bunch of notice and he was going to be in new york twenty four hours notice with the shortened off season and and he had injuries towards the end. Good luck he may be on that he may be on one of those spaceflights right now at bays on needs track those nba guys down in in the off season. As i like. Sarah you like sarah a good week for her to. I think it's a good week for not going to go. Pitch monica mcnutt. Now i'm just. Oh i love her. I think she's i think she's good. I think she's really achieve. Blew me away during those knicks. Post games during the postseason. Plus you like the name i do. I do anthony in oceanside. What's going on anthony. Hey what's up guys. Hey man no was good since. I haven't heard him on the air. No quite a while. weatherford weatherford jacuzzis. Too busy just eaten protein and lift weight lifting weights. exactly and sims sims was good. Well chris simms is doing his own show and phil. I don't know if we'd would be interested. You know who knows yeah. I i'm not. I'm not sure whether forever from weatherford all the names army. No where's bob oheka you know. Someone's gonna call with that. Oh of course. Of course this'll be the end of it just like here. I haven't really gotten a great callers. And i'll give you a really good suggestion to what's that al dukes. Al dukes allow maggie tearing each other apart like to rabid pit bulls off their leashes. That would be interesting. Wouldn't do that a million years probably not. I'm just saying. I need this stress. I don't need this nonsense. I don't want this guy. Plus what jean here when she asks alabama somebody on the diamondbacks. Which sports is he plays that too. There's that and then also just alle being a complete pain in the aunts. Kids want to deal with that. Did you see this you are. You're the pits joe in newtown connecticut. What's going on joe. Iguana guys love your show. My thought is jerry. Blevins former mets reliever love his personality. They love yeah. I i've heard. I've heard great things about him. It's funny and you know he's got some time on offense. I think he'd be. They'd be good. Get i like that. That's a good one. That's that's a really good one joke Mark in palisades. It's going on mark guys doing this morning. Good man how 'bout johnny mack. john mcenroe. John mcenroe john mcenroe well. I've thought about him doing something in a long time oil. He gives you all sorts of crazy would think. Yeah yeah you would. You would think so. You're wrong you got four hours of it. I'm just saying. I mean have you. Have you heard him doing anything recently. A tennis doesn't he. He's a new though. You know nine. Only goes to knicks games and stuff. He can talk some knicks. I saw. I definitely saw his brother. Doing some of the tennis stuff over. I guess was the french open actually for sure. But but god's got the name of course not absolutely you gotta get him fired up though. Because what's john makarova. Not screaming something. That's basically what you'd want him. He does like all the new york sports. I do know that. Richard and ridgewood park new jersey. What's going on richard. How has no one said a duo matt martin and sidney a science and martin. What i can see sidney coming in and doing it. I could see sydney. I'm matt with matt. With all due respect. He would just bore the pants off. How on and i love that. I love him. And i also soft-spoken the air matt is great. I love to go fishing with them. Golf. i'd wanna go golfing with them. Chop it up but those hockey guys are one the same mostly of them. It's just the same thing and he wouldn't wanna say anything plus he's got lou breathing down naturally. Wouldn't want any of that all right. so how. 'bout maggie and sydney maggie in sydney. I could say that that. I could see the sydney's not afraid to say anything. She doesn't care and she she was doing media before she got married absolutely so she be perfect. But you agree with hockey guys. A lot of them are not going to say anything very soft spoken. And i would agree now in the whole canadian end always say end no so as off season. It's been great and just trying to get myself ready and Go out there for another. You know big season. There's the greatest picture picture. How then when it. But that is a good thing. I mean the picture of me not forget. I haven't taken a picture that couldn't use. She's got that touch got that selfie touches she does not know how the hell she does it but he made you look good. She did she did which is a very interesting in that picture. I know which. I told you when that when i saw that picture said i looked thirty pounds lighter picture of it's up to the right. She told me pretty. Good up into the right good. You see how she did it up at titter. Ed want paul. what's going on at. Yeah i got a great guy for you. A great personality new yorker played for a lot of baseball teams and has experience nelson figueroa. I've heard a lot of him. I think he does a podcast. Now there's nothing new york post. Podcast have heard a lot and he had some weird happen to him and s n wide. I don't know what happened in. Just one day. He was there. The next day wasn't all right last one more or also in massapequa park. What's going on russell. good morning. Good morning healthy fish on time that you're already already turned down work right so he's not going to do it awkward. Yeah that'd be very awkward. Good idea but now what about some of the guys around here. That are just like floating around trying to get their careers going like. That's not what the midday shows for. Okay but the summertime. oh i heard pat boylston shift. Okay right. You didn't really had no reaction. I don't really know him pat boyle getting shift. Their allard is hsien come. In with boiling show solo boy solo pat boyle. What surprised me about that. Is you wrote out his entire monologue. Left it on the printer one day. Then they used. Apparently i guess he's getting a show. Maybe i dreamt that. I don't know i think he's getting a show or that he did the whole monologue. The monologue i remember. Maybe i dreamt that he's getting a show. What did you just put that out there for. Because it doesn't seem right. No no no. He's getting the show is star of wfan wfan foil. Yeah he's hosting. Friday august twentieth the overnight good for him look at that. He's the star he made. It worship nothing but the best he made. So i'm sure i'm going to have to listen to it now. And critique him you know that's what he would like apparently give air check him a friday night overnight. Stay up and listen. I'm not going to stay open. Let's no listen at a later date. Oh send me the semi the audio that we could do. When i got my spare time. Yes all right. 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Hundreds of new exclusive stations to check out today for summer barbecues road trips relaxing for every move every interest every passion by odyssey. Brought you in part by macy's and geico the morning show with boomer esiason and greg boomer and geo who are a little late so let's get to him. 'cause he's always chock full of so much. Oh yeah see. There's a lot things that he has to squeeze in a lot of good audio through want to get to see low and his update. You got any suggestions. The co host with maggie. Was that what we're doing today. Well yeah sorry. I you know i say time and time again. I miss a lot of the show on here. Because i'm listening and bring the goods. You know michael rapaport bow down. Did hear that. Maggie asked me Did they find a co host yet. And i said what are you talking about now now now. I'm aware yeah no idea why so. Apparently you know that monica mcnutt. You works remiss g anybody who works for. Msg can't host with maggie. Thank i right about that. it's a thing. Wow what about stu finer. And i like it love it. Hey to what's going on. Man gio i love you gerry. I love you. Chris i love you at roca back the cruise back. Let the band together. Let's go first of all. I wear a mouthpiece 'cause i used to wear the sleep apnea to now about peace. Which stops you from grinding. My teeth and it also gives me a phenomenal night's sleep. And i do not store really just on a diagnose writing jericho the guy fabulous chargers like seven hundred and fifty dollars. He puts his piece in. And i've wanted for about four years and extremely effective. Okay all right. I appreciate okay just on just on that point. I think i would be fabulous me and maggie first of all. I love nagy when i met her. In person we had like a connection. And when i saw her chills went through my body i did. He knows his passion or asthma. And i think we'd be fabulous because maggie is a fabulous host and she has high energy. So do i. and i'm pretty much versed on the world. I know very very little about a million little things. So i can talk sports. Obviously i could talk gambling. Obviously i could talk match jets. Knicks rangers islanders. I also talk about being a parent. I could also talked about the struggles. With being obese and st- in by the way people in japan south. I could talk about being so excited. Gambling becomes legal in new york. I could also talk about when marijuana becomes weak and people love me so another. I think the board with light up and i can do i. Choc- four spending. And so i think maybe me mean you boomer and you jerry. That might be a better fit than you and maggie. I don't maga- tolerate you for four hours you know. Can i say something. You underestimate me. Second of all women love me any women woman. There's a connection. There's a connection how many people five four and three quarters way two hundred up beautiful not many and that's me and i could just talk forever. Trust me my whole life no. I'm not underestimating you. I'm talking about chemistry situation. That's all it has nothing to do with you. Let her go. Literally for maggie and chris big. He's very intimidating although i love him too and just back out and say almost make scott jumping chris colin because he pushed me away from maggie. Maggie me and maggie all the new team. I think like give us four hours and then give have a jaw checkbook still well We appreciate always giving them for hours. We giving him for. Never gonna word not. I think he probably just ruined shot by his pitch. I would do a show. It stood before for sure. Prep is much goes yet. I would definitely have to fill in. But i don't know maggie probably not gonna tolerate him. Maggie wants an athlete now. He's running the boston marathon. Technically he's an athlete. But that's not a pro athlete. That's what she's looking. And by the way sal licata is coming in. Today's haven't seen him in a while. Also be good to see him and he hasn't been station while he's been sitting at home. I told me she'd go in. Should come in. And he's got the dew born situation crazy and why situation. That's your i in a while. You almost more than you're sean marks there. Did you catch that in a while. Yeah i on the little one is sal. Licata aright ceelo brought to you by winters bros. Waste systems long island's number one choice for your waste collection and recycling needs visit winters bros. dot com. I did go on a bit of a wild goose chase to find some of this other john susan stuff from yesterday. First of all the tyler. Wade play from last. Hour gives the backhanded compliment. I forgot that was the play right after that dead air i mentioned earlier. Okay so i let's take a listen to the full version here. Okay two outs. No one on bottom of the six. Miami has a one nothing lead. They're sitting at yankee stadium. There goes the crowd noise on the plane right now. Oh my god takes his slider okay and so the county to and walk comes the whistler. John us you didn't edit this. Oh here's the right hander. Homes too long and it. Hit on the ground at thirds. I'd throw in time great way. I want to hear the away. Every time wade plays he shows why he is. A good player is graded not at all not at all and it's one thing to do that on tv. That's rough on radio. Oh boy Then the next inning wait involved at another nice play here and the bitches crowded a third wade fields and throws to first and it is not in time because roussel was pulled off the bag. I said russo skews matt. Rizzo was pulled off the bag. That's what i hear. I didn't see it. Wish i do too. You know john tomorrow. We're going to see everything bed. I see empires little people on the all nine. I'm on a look at this. Are they just discussing it. I don't understand what they called. They said he was off the back. He's not off the bat. Oh wasn't when he caught the ball he wasn't he was footloose. Mashing the bag liga mashing the hundred percent right terrible call and then this last part will move on. I don't know what cory believes it was looking at because it certainly look like. It's going to look at it. We haven't been shown yet so. We have no idea what anybody doing. Tomorrow we're going to have everything out there. They are with the headsets thank you. Whoever is running the camera in miami good really at a disadvantage. It's a tough spot. It is do you think they want to travel. Yes do i do at this point. I think i think percent novelty of doing it remotely was one thing. This is going on now over a year. And you don't get the proper feed. You can't do your job like you watch games on tv How many times have you seen a ball that the other night against were chill. You knew those walls were out no question and even this thing you did does. Usa japan game on the japanese team hit a home run. You knew what was out the from japan. The kid yeah. The kids know mike. Kim i believe but whatever from japan wayne is how many times have you watched a game on tv and you think the guy got all of it turns out to be a short pop up to left field. This is how he's trying to. You can't see any or the other way around the ball. That looks like a pop took offense. I know that they are at a disadvantage. And don't like colin games off a monitor. I'm just asking you. Do you think they actually really wanted to do i. Do you want to cite the fact that there have been doing it forever but from the same standpoint. This is what they're used to traveling. They talk all the time about the restaurants. They love and certain cities other broad tampa. They don't like tropicana field. They they might like florida. I don't nothing like listen. I did head. Did some games remotely last year to. There's nothing like being at the arena. It's just it just. That's the way you do your job. There broadcast to friends. They've made over. The i mean you go on and on. Susan loves doing the in person. And if she doesn't even do that with boone's still it's on the phone right so you know as for the game itself down one. Nothing in the eighth anthony. Rizzo ties it up with an opposite field. Rbi single and then on the very next pitch judge and he lines a basit veal. The throw home is going to be not in time as stanton scores and the yankees take a two one act on one more in the ninth. Three one victory series sweep of the marlins rizzo had a monster debut week. Any homered in each of the first two games the game tying hit yesterday and then further endearing himself to his new fan base. Here around. Vince drives instead on the field and applying to just excited. get to new york in the implant. Here's judge on. The new guys says rezoned company. Check their egos at the door walking around. You know brag about his world series bragging about his goal close. So what kind you know. We're going to do things words in my mouth. Champion rain benches stupid and jolie rodriguez one fitch one out credited with the win. And his yanks debut klay homes has also pitched scoreless ball since coming over from the pirates. And tonight you've got andrew heaney making his yankees debut against the orioles. He's opposed by whore. Lopez pregame on the fan begins at six twenty five six five the us over japan here. What should bevan. Yeah shoot a bet. I want to ask. It was legal in new york. Yeah me too. I will knock out of the game in the fourth. I would've jumped on that. Yeah why not. We would have been totally into it and everything else. Are there austin himself big tournament. By the way that's right over five hundred members dad gonna pissed off the yankees traded him do yes and destroy the yeah big comeback saturday night at city field. No such magic on sunday. Shrek already has his first career forehead game and now his one sharply bias that he's got a five game farmville around third ho coven to score mac swap capping himself a career afternoon as five for five. Was the one drawn in infield field hit. Yeah why why are we putting a shift on for match. Schroeck hint hits you jerry hamadan. Just play the damn okay. Speaking of analytics before i forget slips through brian cashman an interview i guess on. Mlb network over the weekend. It was yesterday more okay. So he said. We've always talked about aaron boone and the lineup and so on and so forth and so here's from cashman. He said boone receives an ideal lineup every game from the analytics department. But then boone must factor in the human element and the talks. He has with players before setting his final lineup. So they do give him. Here's what we think you should do and set the lineup. Yeah so it's basically suggested to him. This is what the analytic say. Now do whatever you thought is asked of the analytics department. What's the best lineup in theory against. The opposing. starting pitcher that day. And then boone gets to factor in the human element. You can't tell me that a guy is taken the job and he's being told this is who you're playing every single but if the person who was in charge of hiring you and would be in charge of firing. You is telling you to play that lineup. What do you do or his department is. My contract guaranteed. Yeah but i mean. That's that's the problem inherently with that situation. I suppose especially when the guy the guy before you apparently was Grinding against management because he wanted a different type of situation. It's so funny though while yes they obviously were not in lockstep. Joe girardi was. He was binder. Joe always by the book by the numbers by the match ups and we used to criticize him for that. What are we got the. Us porn on pouring it on at least putting upside. I thought there might have been someone on base. I was a great catch but it wasn't yeah ended up losing seven to one. Did you see pre-game. There's currently a raccoon stuff. I mean you can't make that up. After the linda macneil thing earlier in the year you know what i was thinking his literally. You can see this thing. Start around on. that's crazy. Do they ever get it out. I don't talk their carlos. Correa aaron loup were part of the effort to remove. They donate each other fans. I wondered the think that franscisco endure talked to hobby by is about the mcneil situation and told them like this guy's a jerk and we actually did have a fight in the clubhouse and then how close are they came to the team in like now mcneil's probably thinking all endure probably told him what went on here. Now i gotta deal with that. Neil brought the raccoon like boy anyway. No jacob degrom on the horizon. Shut down from throwing for at least another two weeks. Marcus stroman and company got to pick up. The slot is in the go. Anybody could look in from the outside and obviously see that. That's a huge hit. But it's not something that we can dwell on in the clubhouse. It's not something that we can sit in hope days. Be back here tomorrow as much as we all do probably not going to trend that i've noticed with the stroman post game news conferences. Yeah if he if he wins he's like i had everything working. I was just on top of my game and mentally physically. I was doing everything but then if he gets hit he goes manages basically spartak not going to dwell on it your points and people that say were negative and we hate them and all that i think. If you're mefin you expect a little better from him yesterday. Well sure. Of course i mean. I think it's fair to be disappointed with the you saw him. Pitcher kinda doesn't matter when they don't score though. Oh you're right. Three hits off a lineup. That's not terrible on in theory. Yeah leo. Slow cure maize on the i l. left hamstring strain and brandon. Memo's got a bit of a hamstring pinch so he wasn't in the starting lineup. The last couple of these things up. Yeah it seems that strength pinch rosie. Other one does not hamstring fatigue last week and general fatigue. Also for jeff mcdougal right. Todd frazier running scoring you. Go so we'll see if nimmo's in there tonight. As the mets play the i four down in miami against the marlins tyler mcgill. We'll get the start at seven ten bringing some other football stuff next hour all right. Thank you ceelo. In less than ten years colon and rectal cancers may be the top cancer killer among twenty to forty nine year old. This is crap fight colorectal cancer believes advocacy will lead. The research and research will lead to a cure. They need your support during their community of relentless survivors and champions by signing up for climb for a cure. 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Because they're blaming fred durst four riots or whatever that happened there not just angry crazy drunk drugged up people but fred thirst and then also they were at lollapalooza so they come back for lollapalooza fred durst looks like john adams. She's got on like one of these wigs and the which i don't understand why that was the look if you're going to have a bold guy was bald back limp biscuit. Just shave your head. Be fine with it. But he puts on a wig sunglasses and they perform a lollapalooza. And i will agree with al. Because i heard you guys in. They do sound like they did back then. I believe so. They've hung on. They sounded pretty. Good the funnier part to me though. Because everybody's focused on the fred durst hair but the funny part to me. Is the guitar player. Who's like a fifty year old man who was dressed like a demon so he's got the half mask half face painted he's wearing a skirt with pantyhose and he's just completely he's you know he's a fifty year old guy. I didn't get to see this gates. It's up there. You could see. Wes borland the his name. And he's a. He was their original guitar player. But fred durst back and limp. Biscuit is back so like when you say you're in. What does that mean on youtube constantly with limp. Biscuit live cuts playing asbury park towns over friday friday night. I heard you guys discuss again north. I know they ride again. There were like woodstock. There was a mosh pit at lollapalooza clip. I want no part of no mazda concerts. I don't think it has anything crazy. The thing that took me about it was you got three four hundred thousand people and no no no cops people in yellow shirts that were barely trained for security. I mean what a mess that was about. The what does not ninety nine. I haven't seen yet. i do remember. It's worth your time. Yeah i i remember watching. Mtv and they were acting like it was the end of the world. This is just so sad they were covering it like it was Cable news at the time right and that big thing. They built up with the fire. And i just remember kurt loader. Basically like crying on the air talking about is supposed to be something magical and now it's turned into this chaos and there was chaotic and that was the sure junior in high school. They're that app. How about the one seen in that. Let's not get graphic but let's just say the porta johns had issues. Oh yeah and. I guess it's fair to say that people thought because it was raining that they were using mud but it was actually poop. I wasn't going to go there. Was this a horrendous rolling around roll around and sewage. They were just awful. There is nothing that would make me go to a one of those concerts where you live there for in a tent well no security not now of course but you'd think about back then how you know that age working k rock and ninety nine now i was still far to. Let's say you were with bicker. At that point and i would have had i probably would have had to. You just missed but like back in your twenties where you still sort of allergic to. Yeah not to find but to living somewhere for a couple of days. Yeah but i would have gone to A big concert where there was trouble going on in the crowd i would. I would have been for that sure. Just not living there. I mean was awful. Is the bathroom situation. I wouldn't have been able to go. I was talking to a friend of mine over the weekend about the times we used to go out to the clubs in our twenties living in new york city like thinking about that now is actually making us uncomfortable and like getting anxiety about it because we we would show up to places until like two o'clock in the morning i believe it i mean but during your twenties you just you're out to go to a bar and then the clubs will be open to like noon the next day. How many times you licotta and monsanto into the place. Down the block over the irish rover. No sat was a sapphire. Oh no no that. That was no Right on the corner. Thirty six street. In stein i know i know i know. I can't remember. i know you did now. We had been there a couple of times. What you're talking about. The irish rover remedy knock familiar with. I'll remember it at some point now. There was a shooting there. And then i stopped going. Oh but But yeah that was the end of that you know. A man walked up to me and monza one time. That irish rover handed us two hundred dollars. Why i don't know. And he said i'm sorry. And the handed us two hundred totally drunk out of his mind. And i lied tomorrow. I said it was one hundred dollars. That's awful yeah. That's true story. Causally walked up to us. He handed me the cash goes. He was totally drunk. Out of someone was like making lee. Maybe mistook us for somebody else. I don't know but he He walked up to his hands. Two hundred dollars because listen guys. I'm sorry and i just took the two hundred dollars. I said it's amazing. Guy handed us one hundred dollars fifty. That's put it in my pocket. That's rude that's right now. There's your body. I know but at that time we were broke. He had a fulltime job at that point i did oh okay so i was just desperate for cash. You're filling at that part time. Yeah part timer. You were a part timer and you moved into new york city in queens but still yeah it was. It was an easy. Why two roommates man. What did you eat what did i. How did you have money for food. I didn't i didn't really have much. I mean it was a paycheck to paycheck situation. Yeah i don't know. I don't know what to tell you but i mean i'd say i'd lived at home up until that point so i there's been some money that were saved by give spits called you and said Greg got on wednesday and saturday with. That's it hey you pay in rent. We got our. I was working a lot. I was working a ton. And i was also working part time. It's serious two games so it was. It was a lot. i mean. He didn't have a ton of money. What you did. Yep and that's why i ended up. I live with myself one year. And i realized i couldn't do it And then just and then. I was acquired the two roommates. And then that was that you acquired. I acquired a train. Yes i made a trade for the two roommates. Sal monzo yeah i remember i remember just crashing on your couch. Not often but enough. Yeah we're very good with that. now we were. We were very accommodating. There are some definitely some stories from those times. Remember monzo and. I met a pair of brazilian girls. You ever hear that story. No no we're to at. The irish rover is way before i met my wife. Okay wave make that clear. And there were two Brazilian girls that we met at the irish rover and monzo talking to one. I'm talking the other. The next thing you know we split and they lived in two different apartments in the story. So i i had been drinking quite heavily that night and we we get back to the one brazilians apartment me in this one brazilian girl and was at the other brazilians apartment and way before he met his wife to And i remember kissing this brazilian who was a smoker and the second that i tasted the smoke i threw up on that ruins the night yep and i was like so i just looked at her and i said sorry walking away. I'm sure you did so then. I started coal in monzo. You know thinking. Like i got a fine monzo now i just threw up but apparently with this other one and i couldn't find where he was or whatever i couldn't find just remember on his phone. He had like a ring back tone of red hot chili peppers on. Remember walking around a story. just call. Listen that ring. Back tone to Content and just walking around. And finally i saw him per stats storefront. That had like an apartment above it with shoes on delta a better night than you did yeah. Go on the fan network. 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GSMC Basketball Podcast 595: USA Makes Statement

GSMC Basketball Podcast

1:34:08 hr | 2 months ago

GSMC Basketball Podcast 595: USA Makes Statement

"Get your ears wrapped around the golden state media concepts basketball. Podcast all the scoop. You need to know from college basketball to the nba and even march madness. Zoos of your rising stars topics on and off the hard work. This is the golden state media concepts basketball. Podcast hello everyone. Welcome back to the gmc basketball podcast brought to you by the gsm. See podcast network. I'm your host michael shredder. Thank you guys. Tuning into the podcast. Today i hope you guys are having a good monday monday in the episodes drop on tuesday and i hope you guys are having a good start to your week. Alive obviously interesting stuff to cover within international basketball aka the olympics as well as what's going on the nba right now. We can talk about a few things. We talk about. The usa proven me wrong winning goal when i thought they were gonna win silver lebron's they proved me wrong. And it's good to see. And i'm happy to see that the americans are still at this moment. The best basketball team in the world. Ross are gonna talk about julius randle signing a four year hundred seventy million dollar contract in the knicks weren't talking about spencer dinwiddie signing with the washington wizards what that means for their future. And then i think it'll be born thing to talk about is what will the trailblazers do with daimler. What will they do Impact obviously the live stuff to tackle on the episode. Today we got a lot of stuff. I'm excited talk about but to start off with the usa usa basketball ripe. This the team. I was saying you know the world is caught up right. The americans are probably not gonna win gold. Slovenia has a chance to beat them everything like that but they proved that they proved people. Wrong and i'll be the first one. Say i'm happy that they proved that proved me wrong. Roth in the reason why because it's fun to support your home country. It's fun to see them succeed. Oftentimes people just forget about what's important. What's important is to understand how senior countries accede is truly amazing amazing amazing. Where's athletically whether it's social weather. It's just politically some things they're doing right. It's good to see success. Good success as good as your country succeed and it's good for me to see that the americans are still on top. The world of basketball played crab game and they lost eighty seven to eighty two. The americans and france brute right. They have a lot of great talent themselves now. The americans have the best players on the court that they normally would have who played him in the nba necessarily where they had a good a good enough squad to get the job done and the good enough squad consisted of incredible play from kevin durant kevin durant scored three straight games about thirty points who dominated every single facet of the game. Who proved again that he is arguably. That's playing the game Take janas over him. At this point. Kevin durant is the of gifted score in the nba though and he will his team to win. He proved that he is. He is that guy. He said you know he went after After the haters and call him out but he has every right to do. I probably be one guy who's gonna fit that list. Just because the fact that i did not see nine americans winning this even though for how one of them to win i just thought they had a lot of issues in terms of garden three point line rebounding chemistry got expose but to their credit after france pretty much dominated them in that first game. Those close friends beat the mary. Facet of that second. Half the americans did what they were. They were supposed to do though what they did was dominate. From that point you look at you. Look at the game itself pretty amazing. It's the fact that people questioning kevin durant leadership and he was the reason they won boiled. Kevin durant can win with his talent. We all know. Kevin durant can win games by scoring points. Both the impact. He had on his teammates on this american squad with other all. Mba guys all guys are all sars. Any once again proved that maybe should At him differently as a leader. I mean i'm looking at it differently this way. Now my gonna come out and say the best player of the game today. No probably not right. Because i still take jaanus from fast stuff is cabinet. Read the best in most gifted score on the day in probably the last ten twelve years hundred percent has he proved that he can lead a team to be the guy. Yes he's been proven that for years. The people were questioning that are. Don't obviously watch the game of basketball. But kevin durant proof seven immediate a in. That's the fact that he is Arguably the best not oriental yet yes. He's the best player in usa basketball history. Best black three one. Three gold medals has the most amount of points in usa. basketball history. Didn't his wife the. Why do i like stories like this. Why do i enjoy talking about how people do things their way while because it's important to recognize that leaders are born differ voice right people might not like the kevin durant. Has you know mitt acquirers Could be sensitive to some stuff on social media but the important thing to point out though is that he got the job done when people myself in and other people saying the usa team was gonna finish worse than silver. Both there are some people who thought they were gonna finish fourth. I never thought they were fists. Atla ideal thousand silver though. They are losing the gold medal game. Kevin durant proof something. I think that is more about the fact that he showed that the americans still have it in that even though they're not as far apart from the world they used to be they can still be the other skill teams won it matters and it just shows you again why basketball's a great global game right. It shows you once again. Why people appreciate watching the game grow in become something special. The reason being is basketball game that people enjoy to watch because frankly it teaches you about sports itself teach you about life teaches you about how to rally people around and teaches you how to do the best version of yourself when pressure hit been watching a show called all american. You guys probably heard. It's very well-known show talks about basically diversity of trying to make it football and trying to be there for your community and be there for your team does Stressed the importance of leadership. You want spencer. James having to tackle leadership while being at beverly high school and being at south crenshaw high and the ability to try and get his team over the top of the struggles trying to do that right. Kevin ransom struggle within radiological question. This guy's leadership and why they questioned well. Casey couldn't quite get over the hawk right him in westbrook couldn't really mashed together. Was that alter kevin durant No of course not was at all russell. Westbrook spoke no of course not and people question kevin durant control russell westbrook because is he gonna be that sharp vocal Leader kevin durant to lead by example guy and leaders come in different forms. That's why you always. It's always to have multiple leaders on a team. Twi them acquiring patty mills for example is a good fit and going back to the analogy right like spencer. James in american has had to learn to be a leader when he came back to crenshaw helped his team spoiler alert for anyone. Who wants to show you. Kevin durant has had to have how he had the lead the usda team when they had a lot of pressure on them based on their success in exhibition games and losing to france in their first game of the olympics. No-one said it was going to be easy. But what people said is if you have the right players the right foundation the right leadership. You can always overcome things as long as you. You're to get and based on the post game celebrations based on what he said in his comments about going after business saying like you know we have the skills on mats and stuff like that. It proves again that his leadership and his play can't be taken for granted. When you have great players come around you gotta enjoy what they bring to the table for information. Personally that's something that i always look at. It said you know what kevin proves something. Yes but you had great players. You really learn a lot and yes music basketball player. I learn a lot from them as well right more for maybe like a skilled strategic standpoint in technical things they do to get themselves better daily basis but inferred everyday person you can learn from it as well right they look. Athletes make mistakes like the rest of us right. They do things that people might not like. They may respond and social media. Or you think they should when you have your life on the spotlight when you make mistakes even small mistakes. Everything's going to amplify and when you are on the american team when you're considered the best team the world for years and years you've finished with a seventh-place finish in the fiba twenty nine hundred games in everyone's looking at you and sang in the usa. Really gonna be good anymore and then you come out and win the olympics. When you lose to nigeria. Who went. Oh in three the olympics. When you lose australia who made the sunniest Split you look horrible in that game. When you lose to france in the opening round of the olympics people are going to question. How much of his team has how much do they care. How much are they going to get it done. And the one thing. I will say in stress with high. Importance is that leadership has it's different forms. We should us right. I've had different layers. Mike career playing basketball right. I've had a different leader when i was in opposition to basketball in high school. Whatever but even playing college you see different types of leaders right and you see how. They rallied behind their teams. Right coaches players friends family right. They all have different things that make them what they are and kevin durant has the traits that make him who he is right. There are some things that people aren't going to like the the the the blasting people back on social media responding back the clapping back on social media the the sensitivity navy. Things right may not answering always answering questions for house dumb. They can be at times but where people can. Respect is the fact that his teammates don't seem to not like him a team like him and the fact is that he can lead a team to a championship and get the job done. Oh yes we understand okay. He's on a super team. We i mean we all know. Super teams are teams comprised. Three stars in moore who played a high level. It's that simple. We know that we know that. But we also know that kevin durant is a guy that almost beat the milwaukee bucks by himself jaanus over him. Because i think he is does more things from a multifaceted standpoint. People say kevin durant can't pass and can't defend obviously. Don't watch a close enough. But kevin durant doesn't always play great defense but he's gotten a lot ever since he joined the warriors he's become a very easily become a better defender. When is the worries. He was a really legit defender when he been the playoffs. You did show that he had been piece that again defend but he showed more from an offensive standpoint passing the ball rebounding with thing about hit a forty nine point seventeen rebound in like fifteen six game in game five against the bucks ready forty eight points in game seven and if i was in happened in smaller they would be probably. Nba champions at this point. But that's okay 'cause least he wants something. Railways proved that he could win something right. There are a lotta people down. The united states may being one of the guys included in that. But the one thing i will say is that it all came down to how they were gonna play where they gonna play slow pace in allow the european countries and the asian report against the african country against wherever the the places from south america. Wherever were they to allow the united states to play at their pace now. The united states Against nigeria right when they played against australia right when they played against the Like let's say they put against France right defendants at trapped because those team wanted to play a pace of play where they can move the ball and not have to deal with the americans the transition but the americans figured out a way to get the job done regardless right. They played faster. They play together. They played more free. Why is that important for people to understand what it comes down to knowing who you are right. I talked about leadership Earlier on the segment talking about the segment of knowing who you are americans Figured out who they were right. It wasn't pretty. It wasn't always a crystal clear picture at times but what they found out. Is that being who you are. Means that maybe you have to sacrifice some things and kevin durant knew. He wasn't do. He had to be the leader of this team. They knew they'd played a fast paced. How they had to use their athleticism speed in gown transition more. Because you know what. That's the thing that america basil players do best now is open court open space type offense where i mean by that. I mean that isolation comes from good spacing allows guys get optimal opportunities score. You look at the fact that it planned transition right. They have the best athletes. And that's the crucial point. You know who you are. And that's something that sports teaches you. Sports teaches you. Who are you. What cavalier do you wanna be. How do you want your team to be preceded. How do you handle adversity. How do you handle pressure is. They're all life lessons guys right. People sometimes things sports or not relatable because although the athletes they have a different lifestyle but they teaches you Sports teach you about life. And what the what i learned from this is that these americans players proved how you can overcome adversity in pressure. And the last one's laughing at the end again. I didn't think that was going to happen. Because i thought they had too many holes in terms of how popovich coach them. I didn't think that their talent was wasn't good enough. I just thought that they personally just didn't have the schemes the attention to detail the intensity data day out to do it changed their style. A little bit played more quicker. Pace played more in transition and that was a big thing that allowed the americans to take off right beating spain right whether they were down by ten points coming back quite a faster pace doing that. Right planes australia were down early but they came back and being by twenty right. You look at the france game right playing their way still finding a way demands to win by five at the end. This is what the americans should be doing and this is why. They're considered the best team in the world because they had In draymond green kevin durant especially kevin iran's leadership poverty credited. There's a quote from usa basketball where it says the relationships. He builds his teammates the respect he garners the joy he is had playing. Is life osmosis. It goes into all players allows you to develop a camaraderie enjoyment to be. Do go right. We just kind of different forms right. Kevin durant is loses gets questioned because he doesn't always be vocal about it. But you know what team together along with them so may as the leadership thing that we're talking about here right. I get frustrated the drama the nba stuff like that guy's not necessarily being held accountable and the star players kind of doing what they want with. Banner taking off games or complaining to their coaches in gm's while they wanna be treated out in force the way out of places but if you buy your teammates if you liked by your staff and you go out there and you produce every night and you're loyal to your franchise. There's no reason not dislike it right. Yeah sure right you can make cataract could probably be hard frustrated frustrating times. Maybe not always gonna be healthy right. Maybe you don't like something that maybe you don't like the fact that he may be went back to haider on social media but that's the after accept people who they are and you got accept the fact that he also is arguably the best player in the world and you accept the fact that he was the reason that they won this goal. Yes the other guys contributed in great ways to but he was the recent he was the reason they got the job done and the the pinpoint for brooklyn going into winning a championship next year. Who knows but sure will be excited to see how it all unfolds in my opinion. And congratulations united states. 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Visit mt podcasts. Dot com for more info. Welcome back guys. Gmc basketball podcast brought to you by the gmc podcast network. I'm your host. michael shredder. They guys again for tuning into the podcast network. Today i hope he has are joined the content thus far and i hope you guys also have the a good start to your week as we wind down. Some are a little bit here in the sense of ryan our august in getting through almost the mid part of the month. So i hope guys are enjoying the Anytime sovereign staying stay staying healthy all that kind of good stuff. That's been going. Ought well with that being said we have a lot of other things to talk about. Lavar things to talk about for sure and is it going to be talking about the olympic basketball. No of course not. It's gonna be also great talk about well. Frankly not just the fact that on this segment talking about the next Star jewish randall signing his new deal but also weighed around where spencer dinwiddie his what his impact for washington's going to be as well as also what the trailblazers need to do in france in a word to make sure damien lower does not walk away. And it's obvious right but you don't wanna miss those seconds as well so keep tuned in stay tuned for those guys. Don't want to miss anything so make sure you don't miss those segments now joyous randall wealth. Isn't this interesting joyce randall. A guy who had a breakout breakout year right. No one's denying that. No one's denying that this guy did not have a breakout year. Endure a solid job. Make all mba. Think he'd made a second team. I if i'm correct there right. We all know what this guy accomplished. We all know. This guy did a lot of incredible things this year. In seventy one games played he averaged twenty four points. A game ten rebounds six assists play thirty seven point six minutes a game which was almost i think the most in week so we get it right. Obviously he's he's a good player right. He made it all star team. He was a big recent. Got the fourth seed. So there's a lot to obviously we'll get into promising way. Well my jewish rail just signed a four year one hundred seventeen million dollar deal with fifth year option of potential gang. A hundred forty million dollars at the end of the deal. So i think the real question is was this deal too low or was it just right. And how should we evaluate this deal for the next going forward. Well first of all joyce ran right. Now we'll be making twenty nine point two five million dollars a year based contract and you know the next to lock him up for something right. He had a good year but they didn't need again. The supermax like trae young where he got four years two hundred seventeen million dollars so or two your fourteen million dollars but around that same ballpark anyway. So so i understand that. Some people price saying maybe the next hottest new sign of her too high. I'll think they did like forty million dollars a year. I would say it was too steep right and the reason being is that jewish brennan had a very good regular-season guys. He did right. he's a big reason. The knicks made. He was humongous reason that they got the fourth seed in this past year's eastern conference playoffs. He's a big reason why mas- square garden got to have playoff games in their home building for three five gains. So this notion that well. Joyce reynolds Driven traded seattle. I wasn't willing to give up this guy quite yet. Is he a number one option on a championship team at right now i would say absolutely not but he also made a giant jump from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty where he went for nineteen points a game to twenty four points a game and also averaged the most assistant his career this past year. So is he worth it. I would say guy give the guy a chance guy. Give him a chance. Got off got to give them a chance. You got why well he still made a lot of good things happen for the knicks. I'll get the fact that why he did reason why you didn't get a higher contract and why he didn't do that. The reason being is that well first of all we got look at julius randle in the sense right as of right now. He's a guy that's very good in the regular season. That played horrible in the playoffs. Just acknowledging facts and it's the truth whether people don't like to hear that other people think on lying doesn't matter it's the truth as the reality jewish rental did not play off to his stands him play the way he likes to in the playoffs. But he's still worth giving a contract amax contract to because he made all nba. He made all star team. He will the nixon. Basically every offense statistical category and he was a big reason that they got musician that they were the became a relevant team again when no one else thought they were going to be a relevant team again right back. So that's why he got the twenty nine point two five million dollars a year basically on his contract. So i'm excited. See what he does. I'm very very excited. I am very very excited. Why what's pretty obvious. Don't you think. Because julius randle in the knicks still have a chance to be a competitive playoff team that in the future and that starts with the next season with based on the free moves Highway on my last episode. That i did. Jewish randall is worth giving twenty nine million dollars to he has. He had a great regular season right and he just came up short when you need them most and he did he did. But that's a learning experience. rj. Baritone came up. Big either edited other role players. Really besides their growth a lot of times in your first playoff moment. You're not always gonna play well right but unfortunately new york where you have a live high expectations that means it. Sometimes things are not always gonna go your way and that's okay though because there is at least the ability to improve on that which is why they locked him into a four year deal and they position themselves better for a better postseason ryan the future. They have right. They have positioned themselves in a better position. They put themselves in a position to be more successful. I can't fault with that. They put themselves position to get themselves to be a playoff championship contender right. That's what the knicks fans are striving for and hoping for but that in mind the knicks. How things they look at. Where look at well. How did you. Israeli do in his second round ago in the playoffs gets that position. Obviously because that is a bit as if now it's a sure bet with the mix. These conference has gotten a lot better a lot. Better indiana up. Rick carlisle as head coach. The chicago bulls with all their additions. Miami heat getting all their editions right. They're gonna be better right. The hawks are going to be bringing back. The andre hundred healthy it can register is gonna be now can be hopefully can play more consistent minutes inconsistent games for them. The sixers are grab. Probably give it. Ben simmons right so you don't know what they're gonna get necessarily back they get like for example damian lillard that community situation also looking at the brooklyn still there right but walkie the defending champions rights. Another sure bet. But this is a chance for joyce to go out there and prove himself right because you know why he wasn't getting two hundred seventeen million dollars because he played terrible the playoffs and joyce randall fan. I love his story. I've been following him. Highschool used to watch all his Who makes balls. Life highlight tapes to inspire my game. I loved his tenacity. The way he plays the aggressiveness of how he plays the family atmosphere camaraderie. He wants to instill in his team. Also the fact that just his his awesome. Awesome kit. That who i love watching. Celebrate him at every game with his wife because always great to see the nba players and their families to the show. Just how much. The community appreciates these players but that being said rejoice failed and not have a good point office. He did in thirty six minutes per game and five games. He averaged eighteen points. Eleven eleven point six rebounds four assists almost five turnovers game. Four point six to be exact. He shot twenty nine point eight percent for the floor. Thirty three percent from three and was minus forty two on the court right so obvious looked into the y things that he didn't do well and posey's right they got being five games where they're the higher seed they've clearly the the lesser team in that series they did as well against atlanta as washington did against philly and boston did against brooklyn and you know what fortunate but they lost the. They lost their team that took the defending champs to six games in the eastern conference funds. Atlanta's a really good team. But you know the next workout cut ahead of a right jewish rails guy. Come back in be better for looks like he's working his tail off. He's running for next work ethics not the issue. Jewish randall is is all that work pays off the plus is he gonna work on his right hand. Drive right war right. Is he gonna finish his right hand. Were around the basket. Is he going to redouble teams better. Is he gonna play better than without having the ball in his hand so much. He's a store right but he's not quite on that crests. Like high star to superstar. Because you know what that's not that's not me saying that he can't be that but this is why why people are not gonna put in that role loyal because there is not going to put them in that boulder. Roller whatever word you want. Sport is because of the way he played the season. It's why the nixon game two hundred billion dollars for four years or a hundred sixty million dollars for four years. It's why didn't do it while they gave one hundred seventeen for example because yes they are happy in. Wanna keep him because of his success in houston but again This is something i criticized. James harden for way. James obviously a better player jewish ren but what does james harden's biggest issue in the postseason. He oftentimes fizzles out. Big moments game seven. This year was hurt game. Six and twenty nineteen game. Four against the lakers even gained seven against the the where he had that. Big block right. He didn't play wealth. Even look at the spurs twenty seventeen right so those are christmas right. That comes with being if you're trying to be the man on a championship team and maybe jewish renell changes people's minds around this year that he could be a number one option on a playoff contending team. At this moment. I want to say he is but he's a guy that could definitely be second or third option. Kemba walker there with evan fourniret. Guys who at least can score the basketball. And i've been in playoff moments. Bring leadership references. That are very good summer with olympic bass with with france. He played great kemba walker. Clutch has been a lot of playoff moments right. And he's healthy. He has great piece to the knicks offense but it all comes down to again right. We all know joyce rental israeli was a leader. We all know he's a hard worker. We those teams like him. We all know who he knows who he is. But he's he's gonna make that next step in his development for the next to maybe say what we invested this money into you. We can invest more talk about after you prove to us that you get the job done right. We're giving us money. Now she had a gray regular-season you proved a lot of people wrong. But are you going to continue to get better and then when we need you in the biggest moments actually produce the question that arctic barents can get too because it's not fair necessary to put on young players this kind of hold on them right where they were expecting this but unfortunately whether or not you think it's fair when you live in new york and when you play in new york. There are high expectations the mecca of basketball. All kinds of stuff gets grouped in with that right so whether or not you think that's fair. I let us first of all right. It's fair game when you're in new york to be critcized heavily in have massive expectations and it's one reason being why being a pro stars difficult for law guests but will us randall in rj barrett respond but specifically right joyce round did not probably get the contract. He was probably expecting regular-season but as playoffs. I think you know he's lucky to probably get that contract. They went lower but it shows that there is shown investment him that they can build around him. And make this team into a playoff contender maybe champs contender the future and that's wishful thinking for me as a knicks fan but we all know that jewish rail still has a lot to prove for people to look at him and say that guy is going to be the next star in peace. We need to win a championship in new york. It's just how it is when you go from twenty four points a game. The batteries season down to eighteen points in the playoffs. People are gonna look at it very differently right. We'll see what happens with. Ben simmons where he went from fourteen points down to a lot less than that this postseason and people did that the honest either janas a different class but joyce bernal's got a lot of promise but he's got to work on his right hand he's gotta hit his primitive shots. His guy trust his work has got trust his process and he's got trust teammates right. He can't be isolation ball time. Now you got kemba walker Can play making the pick and roll where you've got. Derrick rose annual quickly off the bench. You got guys like rj bear nerlens noel. You gotta trust the vacant provides the for you to. You got coach. Tom typical who's done. Who's a great coach. It's done a great job for the mix but he's been around for a while you got trust that he can get the job done for you to trust that. And that's the god's honest truth what. The knicks are in position to control their own. Destiny enjoys rousing position to control his own destiny. What is he going to do to help the knicks. Get back to that spotlight. I'm excited to see what he does. Because i think he's got immense amount of game ends success around the corner for now happy he got this contract. He deserves it but now he's gotta make due on that investment than the knicks have now made into him. Because look we all know lot Had these contracts work where the guy's not always pan through the right way for or pan in the way they miss the white. But you know what. The knicks air themselves. At least embarrassing. Joyce reynolds gotta get out there. Now get this team back. Playoffs play better in the posies right. Show that he's improved and worked on his game will continue to get bed and that's important thing too obviously understanding. That's why i'm looking forward seeing what he will be able to do in accomplish this. Where quick commercial break here guys. But when i come back we'll be talking about spencer. Dinwiddie and what. His addition to the wizards will do for him due for their team. All that coming back up when we return tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. 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So i'm really excited to share some more insight into alison through guys as we head into these last two roads but without being sad guys. I hope they're enjoying what you are listening to. So far we have already impact a lot of great content. I think you guys would really enjoy. If you haven't checked it our ready. Hope you have and just a recap for you guys. We talked about wide talked about the usa. Making a clear statement by winning olympic gold in tokyo beating. France eighty seven eighty two. It was a big moment in a big stepping stone in the americans showing again and why they're the power in the in the world in terms of basketball and then i also talked about a little bit new york knicks news jewish reynolds sunday four year. A hundred seventeen million dollar deal. I talked about what's at stake for him with that deal what he needs to do. Why the knicks made the right call with that deal. And i think the you're expanded basketball fan generally the lie grayson listen to because it talks about the financials. Also it's about why jewish randall. Got that deal. And i think it's very important. Listen to also last segment but after this one which will be this segment documents. Spencer dim what. He's impact on the wizards. But i think the last segments can talk about what path to the plate. The trailblazers need to follow in order to keep damon loaded portland and not allow him to go to in our team. Which i think is can be very difficult for them to do it but me being a guy who likes to see stars who want remained Thirteen get done. There is certain things they can do to get the job done. And maybe these deals don't work. Maybe they don't fit the right system for them but who knows at this point right but that being said we have an interesting topic talk. Now that's Spencer dinwiddie right spencer dinwiddie. Well he just got traded to the wizards. and i think that up is it. You're saying obviously but look back that spencer dimbleby's what he's a guy who has struggled with his injury aussie tour his. He tore his acl and obviously the biggest on his game. He just came off a one point. Three games this past year at only averaging six point seven points a game but he has made a significant impact with the brooklyn designated pride y great minutes with them and i don't fault them for one to leave to be honest with you. I don't why because guys deserved irving opportunities where the route you're going to playing be wanted. He wasn't needed or wanted in brooklyn. I maybe he is wanted but he was definitely not needed because they had kyri. They they just brought in patty mills. They didn't necessarily need him. There and i think that he wants to be on a team where he can kind of control himself is game control the way he wants to run his team in terms of the offense the way he wants to play his game and and the wizards are going to be allowed him to do that. Or the wizards were very good offense. The team last year. They did a lot incredible things and before again to you know who him what. He is disappointed. What helped provide just to give you a little bit of rundown of talking about you. Know the the wizards got better offensively laird. There only nineteenth offense last year and frankly that was something that they you know. Their defense was not greater than twenty. Two twenty twenty. They were fourteenth and offense efficiency right but the one thing i will say is that dim what he will help them out with that because dim what. He's a guy who can facilitate he can score. He's clutch and also the big thing is washington has superstar. Bradley beal rival. They lost their playmaker and russell westbrook but who they get in return. Well they got calicoes. Must have got. Casey pay to take his caldwell-pope mantras herro and spencer dinwiddie. Obviously but what what will be interesting in my opinion. Is you know you're looking at the fact that they also have guys like reactor more there. Right you have guys like daniel gaffer had a good year right obviously but also thomas bride coming back. Possibly and everything like that. But for the wizards. I like the fact that they have some good pieces where they drafted core kissed birth Right they got aaron holiday shooting guard. I liked that. Take a lot for them right but what is doing what he brings. The point guard position well. During his last year he averaged twenty point. Six points in six point eight assists now. Why is that important to point out for everyone. Well it's important to point out. Because frankly the wizards losing a guy in russell westbrook who averaged twenty to eleven eleven. Last year for their team in the second half of the year was playing like an. Mvp candidate russell westbrook by the way is better than spencer dinwiddie. We all know that. The wizards obsolete when you give that much of a player obviously. I don't think that was going to be the long term solution for russell westbrook but when you give that guy up and he has an impact on walker in which from ally right writer from a lot of young players in articles on on news that works different sports news networks. He had a big impact in the way they played in the way they produced. And when you lose you lose a leader when you lose a guy who's gonna play hard every night when you lose a guy who's team oriented right. These people saying that he's lebron restaurants all about stats the wise every y.'all team for the most part. Liken why does he not have an issue with his teammates right. Why does james harden still call him his brother even though they they didn't have the greatest playing time together right. Why does bradley beal say he's been one of the best teams ever have wide Stephen abbas says the same exact thing right obviously obviously. There's lots of look at here but now with that being said now this land can be interesting. Are they a team. That could possibly make the playoffs. Maybe right but they don't really have great defense right. They're going to have to focus on that a lot. I mean they were atrocious. Defensively last year. Atrocious defensively atrocious. Defensively said they la things. They can work on their twentieth in field. Goal percentage defense. They were allowed a lot points in a lot of easy buckets around the rim right but they also were team that defense efficiency last year. They were twentieth the defensive efficiency at thirty teams. That's not gonna cut it. Obviously reich is when you're twentieth indefensible. In nineteen offense efficiency they got better as the season went on in an eastern conference where the teens weren't as good last year. They're able to squeeze in the plans and get as the seed right. I thought they were gonna be more dangerous. They turn out to be bought with all being said they still were able to in a sense. Turn that ship around in a big way and obviously for them. There's a lot of things and build upon right so lot can build on. But what is dim what he brings that team. Well offensively. they're gonna be better because he can control the tempo the game very well. This is assuming he comes back healthy and assuming that he plays like what he did before his injury his guy can give you eighteen to twenty points a game. He can give you sixty eight assists. He's six five. Got good size guy. You can go to the end of the game. Bradley beal's gang heavily covered and look. The wizards are going to be a younger team. Right in also new coach right. So why is that important to have. Because you wanna have a guy who had experienced right being moments before and then what. He has rank. Is wes unseld junior. Even though i he looks like he's got a great resume hopefully he'll do good things in washington right inexperience with this team right bradley. Beal's the only guy who had any sort of playoff experience on that team last year right now that they're bringing guys look calculus Play experience mantras. Heralds have playoff experience right ca. Kcpt davis call pokes playoff experience. Dhabi's beretta's had some playoff experience. But he might be out because of the way the depth chart looks but the important thing is it. Having that plant experience last year will be important but also having experienced point guard again like they had with westbrook will help right obviously having a guy that can craze shot create for others and that you can depend on in terms of late game. Situations is another key point. Why is that an important point. Well because the wizar- knock your team. That's going to be predictive. The plastics here. I'm just telling you now that's probably not going to be the case right there. Probably eight or nineteen hours before. Is that me. They won't let the playoffs. No not at all. They still have that plan system. They still have always chance right. I mean the are definitely above them are the. That's the box the sixers. The hawks say the bowls knicks the heat's the celtics. I probably put the pacers in there. And that's the right. You have to look at maybe toronto rabbit. Toronto's kinda rebuilding right but watched him might be that team after right but They chance to in the plane and there are a team. That i think was still has a good chance of being the plan and the reason why i'm saying that that saying that that it's not gonna be easy Postseason is because the eastern conference has gotten a lot better right like how they've got pretty good. Since the from the frequency pickups chicago picked up a borderline. You know a guy who was a definitely a star and i was gonna say superstar at one point in toronto but a store for sure tomorrow rosen. That they've lonzo ball. Good defender incapacitate. An aggressive does great things. They you know the fact. They already have nick Zach levine from last year. Right look at the next right. Pick campbell walker Foundation cadillac tax on part. You look at the sixers. I mean even though what they're term storm royal with. Ben simmons who supposedly doesn't wanna come to the training camp and everything like that. They're still going to be a team as to being the playoff picture right. The pacers are team. Hasn't good head. Coach have good players around them with malcolm. Brogden cares luther. And damascus a bonus. Then you also got teams like brooklyn obviously with their big three right you got. Milwaukee just came off winning a world championship miami with gang kyle lowry and reciting victor all depot in getting. Pj tucker resigned dunkin robinson right. It's not be easy for that right law times when you don't have a live expectations. Sometimes you play more free basketball not sometimes a lot of times you play more free bass because you know that people are not expecting much from you and i think dim what. He's gonna add a lot to this team. Play free style of game and also allowing them to be a team. That's gonna be a tough out. And why do i think that wealth based on his track record look at the brooklyn teams that have given teams trouble. The past right does pass paschi teams for for you. Know the the bubble in brooklyn or you look at a previous year right. There are team that gives teams issues because of the fact that their peski they're annoying they are going to do their best to try and win no matter what and most of all they're they're gonna fight to the end and i know wesson says Unsaid unsettled a junior is going to do a great job. Hopefully in promoting that right hopefully they play good defense both dim when he brings the guy. That's never going to give up. And he's going to be relentless the entire game and getting guys involved taking big shots when he has to hit him right obviously look dim what he's not like the greatest reports ever but he the guy that can hit men ryan shots buried insistently Gets to the basket. He's very smart and very skilled. And he's a guy again that brooklyn fans loved because he's a guy that you could go to the games and that helps with being paschi team because if you at least have guys dependable at the end. The game which bradley beal one guy. Who definitely can be that right because he was the scoring leader in entire mba last year but they also have another guy. That could do that too right. And maybe this can help the development of guys like roy moore who had a pretty good season last year ronald thomas bryant right or even helping guys like denny Right made could help. These guys in there develop right. It's it looked from my perspective. I don't think the wizards are going to make the playoffs right. I'm hated to be the bad news for wizards fans. But i don't think they're going to make the playoffs. I mean i think the strength will i. Didn't they can make the plan though and be a tough out for a lot of people but again like charlotte for example right. Who knows how they're going to be next year right mosque. Devante graham You know they might being more of a rebuild situation. We don't know there. We also know that you know toronto. Could be still gonna well coast and gonna do they gonna try you know. Get in the playoff picture right. Bought washington has a chance to make a plan. But it won't be the teams. I said that meal. Maybe or below them worst Totally than the next season right. You also look at the fact that you know the teams above them are also going to be better right. Chicago is going to be better than next slightly better brooklyn is better right. You look at the fact that milwaukee's kind of the same right phil is going to be a little worse. But not terribly worse. The hawks are going to be a year. More experienced with this team with nate mcmillan. So that i think they're gonna be better right even look at teams like boston right. Boston could be boston's probably gonna be. You know a tina still gonna be decent writer. It'd be a good team a team. That's gonna probably make the playoffs. But you know. Washington has to be that team that the mice in my opinion brooklyn was the bubble in twenty twenty. A team. that's going to give people probably the team. That's going to surprise people right. Play hard defense. Play every single minute. Hardest hard as they can. And why am i saying this. Why is that important. Well because the only way you surprise people and beat them is by playing as a unit entrusting your system. I think spencer dim when he's going to help a lot with that. I really do and for me. I personally wanna see spencer. When he succeed. I mean who doesn't tell me off an injury like he did. Everyone wants to see this guy succeed. Because i liked his game. I liked what he brings to the table. In terms of being a guy that you can trust late-game game situation if bradley beal's gang hounded which we all know bradley beal is going to get hounded by defenses next year because he was a star of the all star team this year. He wasn't the olympic team until we got cove with and he's a guy that can purely just take over games by himself so we all know that this guy is in who he is what he's about so we go what he can do but that being said bradley beal needs help. Right wasser westbrook gone. He needs it from another source and that in my opinion comes from bradley beal trusting. Spencer did what he did what he is. That other pieces Wants to needs. Is russell westbrook. No he's not is you guys getting When healthy will provide good minutes in provide good health to this team. Yes yes. I think he will. I think it's time for people to understand that washington might not be a team. That's going to be contending. For atop six ploughs bob a team. That's gave me a team that might give teams trouble in the planet and that's important to recognize because they have good pieces. Mantras herro off the bench. I like him a lot right op. Sando he's going to be a defensive liability but his energy his offensive production whenever he's in his rebounding production his peer tenacious play Back they also have to take this call pope right a guy two way players shoot three right calicoes Turnaround cal who's must career in a sense right. Maybe he can get out of that. The hollywood phase after you start playing consistent basketball basis goes. He's got a lot of talent but it doesn't always play to that ozzy. It doesn't do a why does not play that potential and maybe being alabaman's shadow could maybe help them expand his game where like brandon ingram expanded his game in new orleans right. Hopefully then what he can help with that right. He's a guy that's a leader is a guy that was trusted. And it'll be interesting to see how things unfold obviously for it and i'm excited for him in the in the wizards obstacles. They are very fun team. The washington the a bunch of young guys running around probably shooting alive threes and be aggressive the glass and everything like that. So it's gonna be really really exciting to see what they can bring to the table and help this team. Maybe made the plan right. So that's how i feel about it. And i think dim what. He's a very good addition. I think it's good for him to kind of be in a situation where he can succeed to his best ability where it's a quick commercial break here but when i come back we will be talking about. What the portland trailblazers too. What are their next moves. And how do they keep damn willard in portland all that coming back up when we return. This is your ultimate staffer. Everything sports could golden state media concepts. Or it's podcast. Should i say more from the nfl. Melby the nba to mma. It's all in here. The golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen doc welcome back guys to gmc basketball podcast brought to you by the gmc podcast network. I'm your host michael shredder. Thank you guys so much for tuning into this episode. It's one of my last couple of episodes left on this podcast network. So i'm excited to share some some final episode thoughts if you guys and go through the different realms of the nba and olympic basketball is any sort of basketball news. It's going on. I hope he has enjoyed this lab. These last couple months listening to me on this podcast network and listened to the other house and just enjoying the content that you're hearing hopefully and i hope spot near spark some more opinions from you guys and allowed you guys to at least if you haven't known enough about basketball gets more insight allowed more opinions to be shared and spread across different platforms. That you guys pry you know having your life's different franks or whatever or family members. Your teammates your athlete. So i hope abso- leading to a positive change it turns situations right and so this. This show has had a lot of really good topics i think. Not because i'm the one speaking the mites think. I've talked about things that i think people are definitely interested in and i would say the first thing off is just that all the guests on this on these podcasts platforms. You give really good topics. I think are interesting to listen to right. And they're all very different and they're all very interesting to tackle. And i think it's important is always just show your support for those members as well because they put a lot of hard work into creating these episodes for you guys with all that being out of the way we are going to give you guys a recap of what has been going on so far so you guys at least have an idea of what you missed and that what you have to go check out before even listen to this last. Don't bother listen to this last segment if you haven't checked out the segments because you don't wanna miss any other great content and it will give you some context leading into this thing is well the first segment. I talked about the usa. Winning the gold medal. Neil unpicks right. It's a huge deal right. It's a big deal because usa proved a lot and proved ally doubters. Wrong is a guy who even doubted the americans to if they could get the job done but they proved me wrong and they still got the job done anyway and kevin durant really stepped up and show why he might be the best player in the league. If not quite ready to do that yet he might be and it might be an important thing to put that in play so that's important than the breakdown to go the fact that the the second second talk about julius randle sat a four year. A hundred seventeen million dollar contracts which hank Forgetting you know a good payday. But also i talked about the next Maybe go with a higher max deal. What is at stake for jewish randall. During these four years what he needs to accomplish wanted us to prove because just being in new york whether you think it's fair made for being a smaller market where they don't criticize people heavily as they do in new york. He's underlies scrutiny right. And i talked about what he can do to improve that and get himself into positive. Light after a very unsuccessful playoff rod his first playoff go around right so that is segment two segment three. Which i just talked about talk about spencer did what he right. He's on the washington wizards. Now i talk about what impacts he's going to have and what the wizard ultimately should view their team as the season right. I think that you're gonna see a lot of fun excited from that team. And that is something. I talked about in that sector. So those are my three segments so far this segment though is going to talk about what the portland trailblazers should do would have to do. In order to not lose damian lewis because it looks like Direction where he's gonna go sign with the different team right and look right. They may not be able to control it but what they need to do. In order to save their franchise built for the future right because they signed a new head coach. They sign chauncey billups. Y good edition. But they haven't made any frequency moves they haven't done anything to make damon lower one to stay there right. They haven't really changed their team. Around and bill patine. That's gonna win a championship like next year. The idol championship team at all even with daimler their thirteen. That's gonna be the same seed around the same this year at four four and succeed and get bounced in the first and second round. That's kind of who they are. Unfortunately right asda and dana lawrence position right. I am a guy who's not in favor of. You're going to super teams if you really don't need to write. I want people save oil to their teams. Because i think it's good for fan base. I think it's good that you see store where you stick out with the team and they figure it out and they get the job done for you right and then you get the job done ultimately as the player but the important thing to understand here is that well frankly it's gonna be very difficult for them to keep them there. I wanna say it will And that's the important thing right but to be honest here. I'm gonna be the first one to say right. The first thing they need to do is try to see if they can get on the Made from dallas right. Will douse will be tough. But maybe try to see how they can work with the sixers and the warriors to try and bring someone in without trying to give up lillard mitigating up a column instead right and look that being brings ben simmons in will that keep damian lillard. I don't know but that might be something that they've done before. Because at least ben. Simmons can facilitate the basketball. Take the ball out of date. Lord's hands but who knows right and frankly that is the important thing obviously right. That is very very important. When we're looking at may what they can do one thing they definitely have to look into is getting star player within all right. Ben simmons could be one of those guys. I don't think that would keep damon. Were there but that would be probably the plausible play right. The i also try to convince. Daimler that chauncey billups is going to build this team the correct way and if they can use the pieces effectively right now is that gonna miss keep dame lord staying. I don't know. I don't know if that will but that's kind of brother to now you. Also the fact is book. You have kanter you know gone. You have karl anthony. John you know the fact is that sort labs give you the same. But you're also have guys like tony. Snell cody's ben mac the more in that. That's not necessarily a done deal. He's looking to request has it. But then they need to continue to try and push Playoff teams contending teams to see if they'll give up assets for maybe galaxy. cj mccall. that's that's the reason why is because that would be the only plausible way to keep lured in portland and why well it's obvious. It's obvious because you wanna make sure that you're acknowledging that well frankly your stars player stars. I'm sorry your stars values come before your own right to be. Honest can be very hard to do this. It is And again right. They're not building a team. That's a championship. They championed lineup right. They don't right. David laura's looking to win now and i think that's important obviously right and i think that's just important right because seeing the is tradeable asset your trade him in maybe like use it gets for draft picks and a star player right that could swain daimler maybe in our direction right but because she didn't call by the way would be a very good asset to a championship level team. If you bring them the ham and you bring like a nazir widow right to the sixers and you get rid of like ben simmons. That might be something that they could possibly get but again that's right. They have to be aware of the fact. That ben simmons might not be the best fit for Right because the way he played the playoffs and the reason. Why bring up ben simmons. That's the only plausible way right there. Otherwise you're gonna try and say okay. Maybe we go to the warriors in trade and wiggins james wiseman abundant draft picks for damian. Lillard a. I don't think that's going to happen. I was try to pursue to call. Is that going to happen. I don't think so right because of the war is going to go after anyone in portland damian lillard right so that that is important obviously because well frankly that is just. That's the reality everything that's going on a fortunately right damian. Lillard is the huge asset. He is he's a big asset that everyone wants to keep. Everyone wants to have their team. So that's kind of the way that they're looking at right They're looking at daimler. Wayne saying this guy is the big asset for teens right but again portland has to also view it that way too. They gotta start pushing more to try and see the even coal right casino. The calm is this is the second best asset. They have on that team and he had a lot of value to team. If they're willing to take the answer is are they willing to take him. Well that is the big question right. That's a big question. Are they willing to do that. Well my answer would be at this point. No but they have to be willing to do it. And i know i like to call him. He's a good player. he's a very good player. He can shoot off the dribble he can plan to pick. Enrolling can score. He has Make clutch place for you. Both him and lowered it hasn't worked out to the extent right. They both have put up good numbers every year but they don't quite get the job done right and that's that's important. Obviously no right. And that's that's important right. Obviously in the situation and frankly. I don't know how the boys are willing to make the move necessary to keep damning lowered in portland right. But i suggested what they could do right. They could set you know. Look at mccall mris. They can look at new orleans. Maybe try to get brandon ingram to calm right or they can go to charlotte see they will get like terry rosiere lamelo ball. Maybe some guys come right. They can look at The knicks possibly rj barrett But those pieces are not enough to win a championship. That's the problem right. They're not and. I don't think the ben simmons has bent is not enough to help them win a championship. And it's not gonna make demand lower. Look at that team differently right. Because dan lords is thinking but if our thinking shoes. Ib when a championship. Now but i do wanna see and the trump. I wanna see portland try you know. Move this out and try to see if they can do so. That is the important thing. Understand here. And look i get it right idea. I get the fact that it's not easy to trade a valuable asset in a galaxy. J mccall in try to see if you can get a guy like damian lillard back. It's very very difficult and very high. A level the dry thing. You can do that right. it's art. Right i acknowledge that it's very difficult to do. And that's important right. That's how it is right. And frankly i'm a. I'm out looking in hindsight very highly on this portland because you really think guys. Like cody zeller. Tony snell are really going to change. Daimyo lords mind. No but again. The question is portland. Go into trey. Guys'll yousef newark agency. J. mccollum see they can get some good assets back for a guy like damian would right because you if you're stores have been loyal to your franchise for this long. You guys start rewarding him and start really being more keen on it right or unless otherwise you're gonna put cure. Put a coach like chauncey billups. A really difficult situation really difficult situation. So that's the way i look at and frankly well i think that's that's how it's going to have to. They have to look at trying to get rid of. Cj mccollum and maybe if there gets to try and get something. That's going to provide good value for david. Lloyd i'm just being frankly honest here just how it is. I'm just. I'm just being frankly honest here but you know that's kinda how i look at just how it is is it's just how it is because you know what i look at the at portland as a team that can build for something better but the truth is the truth is with with portland is i. Just don't trust their front office enough to really take the risk for what needs to be done in order to keep their star and they take the risk and may they do get the job done but is it going to be the peace that will incentivize david. Lord wanna stay. Because he's been boiled to this franchise for a long time for his career. And i respect that. Because he's not a guy that wants to leave and go join a super team that when a championship. He thinks he can win it by his own. I think he's going to try win by zone macomer enough to win a championship. It's been proven right. The facts show. They're not good enough defensively. They're not good enough right there too. Small on the against against the bigger guards right offensively. Cj mccombs a little bit more inconsistent than damian lillard right and if there could just play in the playoffs especially gets guy like nicola Just ate them up the entire series this year. That's a problem right. The resnais zach college for examples because collins was just injured too. Much right carmelo. Anthony is god's the lakers were they. They did not get team any better. This team was probably worse than they were last. Used all the good daimler or can do. Is it really good enough to get this team over the top. That's the big question for god the asking today. That's a big question right. Is it good enough that you can look at this team and say arthur better than what they used to be right is. Are they better than what they were last season. Are they going to make a better championship. Run am i. Answer is no. I don't think so. i don't think so. Because unless they're willing to trade today mccomb on west lesser making willing to make those risks. I'll see them keeping damian mode. I don't wanna blame. He didn't want stay in portland anymore. That's how i feel but the only way they're gonna do it is by getting arrested Nervous i think is what the plausible play in convincing willard. 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Best Of (Chris Broussard on the Lakers updated roster + Team USA's win, Aaron Rodgers)

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Best Of (Chris Broussard on the Lakers updated roster + Team USA's win, Aaron Rodgers)

"So listen to this. A lot of people think you have to go to your carrier to get a deal on an iphone but you can actually just go to an apple store apple dot com and save on a new iphone with the same great deal says carriers plus with the apple specialist. There you know you're in good hands. Visit your nearest apple store or go to apple dot com slash carrier deals to check out the offers terms apply. Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host jenny. Taft this podcast is a condensed version of today's episode of undisputed handpicked with the best segments and discussions skip shannon. Let's go after a season derailed by injuries. The lakers have been busy this summer. I they traded mantras herald. Pcp and cal coups much of washington in exchange for russell westbrook given the broad ada. Big three in la and then they acquired veterans and mellow quite howard ever resou- wayne ellington and kent as more they also added some much needed shooting in kendrick. Nunn emily mall kubo shot forty two percent catch and shoot. Three's last season. We're joined now by fox sports nba analyst. Christmas are great to see you. i start with. You are the lakers better or worse than they were last season. They're better and i know the three of us. I believe shannon escaping myself when we first heard about the matter russell westbrook. All of us were skeptical and didn't really like it. And i remember i said when brooklyn came together. That was the greatest chemistry experiment. I've seen in the nba in decades while this group russell in lebron day made brooklyn look like a match made in heaven. That said the talent is just is just incredible. Are the talent at the top of the roster lebron. Ad and russell is incredible. Then i think they did a good job especially considering what they had to work with financially. They did a good job of adding around ville. And i'm gonna give lebron the credit or benefit of the doubt of because he's one of the smartest players we've ever seen that he might be able to make this work chemistry wise as far as him and rust but around. Let me get to this first round him. Jin mentioned a lot of the shooter's. I don't think any of them are cow korver. None of them are awesome shooters. But they're solid maliki Kit bays more. I like as a three d. guy wayne ellington trevor. Rees carmelo even has become a much better three point shooter. The white house our gives them size that they think skip. I think you said this earlier you know last year. They missed him last year. And i know they brought on. Andre drummond is bigger than the white. But they're why is more athletic than drumming. I think he was just a better fit so the hill help when they wanna go really big and they still got margot saw who can spread the floor. Which is going to be critical for them. They may still start this. All is my guess because having floorspace in this boy and to be huge now. The key is still. I'll get the russel. Lebron the key is anthony. davis still. Are anthony davis has got to stay healthy number one and get back to be a one of the best bigs in the league like he was two years ago. If he doesn't do that day they likely won't win. The west let alone a championship. Ad has got to be ad of two years ago. All right now. For lebron. And russ i think i know when they talked a few weeks ago before the trade was made. The brown talked about playing power forward. Ad at the five. I like the five but lebron in my view needs to be the point guard. I think lebron needs to take on the mindset of magic johnson to make this work and i think he's view himself as the third scoring option and he should make sure. Anthony davis gets his west route gets his and all the surrounding pieces. Lebron's going to score twenty plus points just by being on the floor for thirty minutes. We know he can get his but make sure those other guys eat. I think that's critical. I think westbrook moving off the ball cutting to the basket backdoor cut. I think he'd be great in that regard because lebron withdrawal double teams and find him. And so i think that would work. And then westward handle the ball in transition and with the second unit lebrons on the bitch. But i think look. It's it's it's going to be an interesting fit. It is a chemistry experiment but the talent is so great. that is hard to deny. I think they got to be the favorites in the west. I agree with you definitely better off instantly. How good how much better. They are defensively app. You probably got a little worse defensive. Because casey and caruso all those guys could guard the perimeter and most of the a shooter instead of defenders. But for me and you alluded to it. Chris is this wobbly. That will work. Because you're absolutely right. When they told me that the brooklyn nets was going to get james harden. I say and do what winning. Because you've got and james harden. I kevin durant out of the equation because can rank play anybody anywhere anytime. Any error kevin. Iran doesn't need to beat the other two guys are very ball dominant. So i'm like okay. Who's gonna be what who's going to be this and this is what gives me hope that they can play together. The lakers with russ lebron. Because i saw what happened with an brooklyn because guys were willing to sacrifice j. hearted won. Mvp kevin durant was already kevin durant kevin walls the title outside of golden state to solidify. I believe one championship in brooklyn. Little pilots kevin durant more than the two. He got golden state carry. Hit the shot. But he's got because he had caught caught a lot of flack because whatever reason it didn't work it was a failure by everybody's estimation what transpired would carry in boston. That was a failure. You jason taylor. You got jaylen brown. You got a marcus smart. And you can't get past the first round that i mean second round not as an nba finals as nba. You got easter pilots without you got hurt so business. What gives me hope that. The big three the lakers can play together. Become high came together for brooklyn so for me. Skilled go another year for your nipples not making not making nba finals. You hope they don't hope. I know you should thank joe ingles today. You'll ask you free my turn finally now for some truth now for some objectivity about what just happened. Even the great lebron james the man i still call the best passer and basketball player will not be able to overcome russell westbrook now. This was a very interesting twist because my man shannon sharpe has been advocating that rouse. We'll be the point guard. Lebron can finally move off ball. Warren concentrate on scoring and chasing down. Kareem abdul-jabbar well. He's the all time greatest score in the history. Is that all you got. Is that what you want. Now do you to championship or do you want corinne. Oh you're not going to get both russell westbrook so to chris's point krista saying that russ would play off ball more as the what to guard. I guess you will have the worst. Us breaking to guard in the history of pro basketball. If that's what you ask him to do and right now you have one of the worst shooting backcourts. If i call lebron the point guard and russ the to guard because you do have westbrook from three. Because russ was horrendous from three last year. Just as you is horrendous from the free throw line and lebron is now what thirty four point five percent three point career shooter so you're gonna have to breakers from three and that is not what you want. So here's my point. I give lebron credit. Because i do believe he's the defacto. Gm this team. I believe he suggested or at least co-signed although sweet little moves fault. You guys talked about an. I liked everyone of them. I love bringing back. Dwight because i said they would miss dwight last year and they did. I like all the moves all the way down to. Resigning t. h. T. on tnt. Like it he's he's going to rise and shine and flourish and come of age next year probably as a starter for this team. I like all of the above. Except what is at the very top of the above. You cannot overcome russell. Westbrook he again. All those moves have been undercut disqualified cancelled by the fact that lebron signed off on russell westbrook as his primary decision-maker as his point guard and again. I loved her. Watch russ operate. He's averaged triple doubles for the last five years. Which is off the charts all time. Great he is no doubt first ballot hall of famer must see but in the end i would not want him on my team and that is why he is on his fourteen four years because kevin durant finally decided after eight long years in oklahoma city. I cannot win with him as our primary decision-maker and then james harden after one year said nope. I just can't do it with him. I need out of here and russ obviously wanted away from james. Also you do realize those skill you say that kevin durant scored the most points the ever scored in the season. We're russell thirty. Two point eight bradley. Beal scored the most points ever scored in the season with russell westbrook paul. George had his high-scoring he'd ever had would russell westbrook and we all barricaded. What happened when paul. George was given his escape hatch by leonard. He said. Thank you now. I'm out shooter roselle. You should've went home. We play you tom that way. You wanna put that five piece as espn reported. What did do when russell westbrook was knocking down his door. What did he do he said. I don't want you. But i want your teammate. I want paul jarash. Fake you as page okay. But but that's what chose cold-blood here was cold blooded. He chose paul george over russell westbrook so all these great players have all said no to russell westbrook except for lebron. And he's trying to say hey. Watch me i can do it. I think i can do it. I'm not sure. I'll delete my tweet about it because i'm not sure i can back this up. But i told you could go down as the all-time shrewdest move by lebron. Because if he can win with russell westbrook then he can say look. I did something. Katy couldn't do hard and couldn't do quite didn't even try to do. Paul george couldn't do but if he loses because of russell westbrook which i think is going to happen. I think it's going to be a disaster. Then lebron step back and he can have the ultimate scapegoat in russell. Russell westbrook because you guys. Don't love him. You guys are primed. You're ready you're poised to leap on him because the goat quote unquote needs a scapegoat and this will be the ultimate scapegoat for lebron james. I right about that. No and what. If i told you about stats. Look at what russ's done. The last year he led the league turnovers. He's led the league turnovers three times. He's been second four times. He's led the league in usage rate four times and he's been second four more times he needs the ball and he's going to turn over the ball and he's going to miss a lot of threes. Do you love that. Is that your formula for the same astor. What you just said for what you just said. If that's why to me lebron has to be the point guard. He you cannot have rough as much as we love. Rosen as you say a first ballot hall of famer icon. All his weaknesses been in addition to shooting. He doesn't make good. Decisions does not are. And that's why lebron has got to be the ball header and russ in houston. We're russ was in houston. He took off over the second half of the season because he stopped shooting threes so when he got the ball on the wing he drove. And that's what the lakers have to tell him to do when you get it. Don't settle for just three because they don't give him three. If i'm the defender darren him the shoot the three right. So he's got a drive the ball and that's how it he'll get his handling handling the ball in transition and with the second unit. It eight is an experiment. I give you give you that. But i don't see lebron being so smart basketball. Iq wise leading rough make the decisions especially late in the game now. Are you going to say russell be the point. Most of the game and then lebron will handle the ball layton game. I don't know maybe we'll let some of the singers. What was that. we'll let it makes some of the decisions they make all the. Yeah make a few with lebron on the bench. And here's the other thing is the age and the ryan got mad and the tweet and all that it's just a fact not nubia. History has started a season this old and won the championship. And when we look at all the big three's failed. We talked about the ones that succeeded. We look at the ones that fails give you. Remember wilt chamberlain elgin baylor jerry. West never won the championship together. Charles barkley akeem allies. Long clyde drexler. Barkley alon scottie. Pippen malone karl malone gary payton shacking coal. Remember the lakers of years ago the white nash. Koby powder's all all those teams fail because of age and and so those big threes or fours couldn't stay healthy so that's a question to will lebron's stay healthy. We'll aideed of even though he's not old and the other guys are role player. So you would think that mellow and a reza should be okay. Because their role players the white but ad and lebron's health is also a big factor. That's my only concern health. Okay i have only one concern the reason. This is going to be a disaster. Is that russ. You can't trust in the biggest games and postseason games. That's why k. D. set remember. They blew the three to one lead to golden state and go look at russ's death. Katie wasn't much better because the primary decision maker and he got sick of watching russ dribble the ball up the floor and say no. That's my turn this time. No i can do this. No no you gotta give okay okay. Y'all didn't like russ nobody like going to make something special. So do i think that russ will help the lakers win a whole bunch of regular season games. I do because i told you before. Ross is even more invested emotionally in the lakers. Lebron is because russ grew up. Just living in dying. All things lakers. So he's gonna step on the floor and purple and gold and feel like he belongs because he is home. He is playing for the team that he loved with all his heart and soul is alive. We need the regular season. Go james take over completely okay. Okay russ doesn't operate like that. He's bullied china shop. His ego is so big a good way that it's like i am the world i got this. You know at nine. Oh you've seen it too many playoff games. I got her. Just give me the ball and sea rim attack rim any shoot at sixty five percent for the free throw line. It's just not good enough. He's not watched he's not gifted ap making the play to win the game. The way a magic was. He doesn't have any magic in him. Tolls give earlier. Is that the only hold in his resume. He's got a gold medal. He's one of the. Mvp here's triple doubles in for the past five seasons. He's an all star game. Mvp the only thing that's missing on his resume. What else did they have to prove. Nobody is going to be the only thing that would change your perception of russell. Westbrook is he title. He gives another triple double gold rush. Had another triple double five six year. That doesn't do anything for him. And i pay. He's got he's coming to the real about it. Everybody was still criticized even though he was the because of getting another trooper. Okay winning him. What so now don't he. Would i agree. I agree shit. Like i don't think in. I don't think russell's ego is going to be a problem. I mean think when he went to houston he was willing to to james harden. Did he was willing to do what they asked him to do to me. I think he is totally sincere. Way as. I'll do whatever we have to do to win. The question is can york. His game is his gay. If russell westbrook thousand back shoot much then guess what he ain't russell westbrook like what's the point of how many movie thousand back chew much will make it work for you. Have to find that ballots of him being able to be rushed. That's why i say libra to me of the big three. The guy that is most built to kinda back off and let the other to be the focal points. Offensively is lebron. 'cause like i said. Lebron scored twenty plus points without even trying Should make sure does to get. There's a he. Is the table center. Like magic johnson. Okay i'm on record. I'm going to say at one more time. Lebron will regret the day. He signed off on russell. 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This skill is unmatched shot. Everybody that one is go. Everybody chip in tonight with us. But skip i will because i know you have a lot to say. I have a lot to say about this fun friday. All i heard from both of you guys. And i'm talking to chris broussard and shannon sharpe after team. Usa lost its first. Two exhibitions to nigeria and australia. Was that the sky was falling on team. Usa's head wrestling. World has caught up to us and men's basketball and our guys are in trouble and i kept saying no. No no no. No they have the best player on the planet kevin durant and then we went on vacation. And then kevin's team lost the olympic opener to france. And i'm just following on twitter. I'm getting bombarded by text messages and it came clear to me that much of the world is waiting for kevin durant to fall on his face. And i'm talking about all those blind witnesses out there all of those those lebron loyalists those lebron apologists. Those lbj defenders out there. They were all waiting for kevin durant team to just stink it up in japan so that they could say see. Kevin isn't the leader. That lebron is that's all i heard. I can't tell you how many texts i got from people who often appear on this show entertainers that you know all too well and i kept firing back text to them saying no just watch. What's about tapping and kevin durant. Did it again. When it was time to get buckets. He got buckets. He is the most lethal mid range. Jump shooter i have ever seen. And he leads all basketball court and he is now the all time leading score for team. Usa men's basketball. He is now won three gold medals by averaging thirty points a game and all three gold medal games. He even threw in in two thousand ten the fiba world championship in which he was the mvp so he is now. Four for four in international competition is the best player on the planet. If you needed proof. And i think you did. You saw it again in the gold medal game on friday night. This man is unbelievably good. And i'm happy. I'm glad that he gloated. After the game as he walked up the tunnel with draymond obviously chiming in the background because he deserved gloat because everybody was waiting for kevin to fail and once again he took over whatever basketball game. He's in nba or international. He dominated once again. Thank you very much. Kevin durant care improved that he was the leader of the de facto leader of this team. He led them to a gold medal. They would not have won the gold medal. Without kevin durant they will not even make the medal round without kevin durant. Thank you concede that scale. Chris when did we started using olympic played to determine who the best player in the nba. We've never done that before. Carmelo anthony and two two two of the three games that he played in the olympic games of davey played. He was better. It would be way more healthy. Kevin had in this olympic but nobody said he was better than lebron. See what we've learned over the last one thousand eight hundred nine thousand nine hundred. The olympics were on. And i know you didn't notice this chris but they have a new category call. Hating if baylor's asiago medalist because what he's trying to do this to try to. You know what you try to. We're trying to use this to undercut. Kevin durant failed. Then it's okay. How does to own pete it. Nobody's i didn't see skill tweet. One thing when canada rats. Tim points in the opening round when they lost a friend. He didn't tweet. He was the best player when tim boys the next day he didn't tweet. Heat is started. Twitting elimination what will so now. They don't count so we count no matter what i do. I will go with a guy that had appeared in the clincher. What he's been telling us for put land years if a man goes the house b.'s. You and your house. He wins the title. Kevin durant by himself almost beat the entire milwaukee bucks. He came within a tenth of an inch of his tony. Doing ebay shot of shots. One of the great clutch shots ever made an nba playoff games. He made it and unfortunately it counted two. Instead of three chris. we'd be created. And i'm gonna turn over you chris. We've never used the olympic play to determine who's the best player in the nba. Now because kevin durant won the gold medal and he played exemplary. The last three games to get to that point. He played great. But we've never used this as a barometer to measure who's the best player in the nba. It was another superstar in this team. New skin nope kevin. We've never done this before. And i'm not gonna let you do it. I just did it though. You didn't know you gotta go hating lebron now. His whole mellon truth kelly. Katie was awesome k. D. is the best score in the world. I in fact you can argue over. Who would take the lash dame hiree k. d. But if. I need buckets at any point in the game if i'm trailing late first quarter second. Quarter third quarter fourth-quarter. There's nobody on the. I rather have than kevin durant his combination of size skill ball. Heaven shooting is ridiculous. He's unstoppable. If i if i take out wilton kareem because big men i would only really historically probably take jordan when i need a bucket. I'm taking michael first. And then i might okay. Yup but skip here. He was great ne- olympics. But here's the dirty little secret. It's the unfortunate truth for team. Usa where you play in the olympics for team usa men's basketball. You are in a no win situation. I if you win you just did what you supposed to to. If you lose you going to get criticized substantially right. We were not at fault for criticizing losing the twenty second right nigeria which went. Oh in three in the olympics. We were not at fault for them. Criticizing him for losing australia. And katie he can gloat all he was he deserves to but for him to say oh they talk about the world catching up. That was your coach. That was gregg popovich after every law saying the world's caught up it's no surprise when we lose so gloated popovich i use yo. You need to go hill. He's the one that said it but skip. They did what they were supposed to do. And i'm not sure shanty said they wouldn't one goal without k. d. He was clearly the mayor. But i'm not so sure the around nba player. They have one player who has ever made an nba all star team. We had nine. I mean we wish even a criticism. I never said they weren't gonna win it. I thought they win it. I gave him a soft by or winning it and it was a softball because they only won by five. Why in the world is a team with nine. Nba all stars beating. The team won by five points. So we need to go. You glow but glow with limitations. Three hundred shouldn't have been that close to so skill ongoing best. Where in the world is debatable. It's not like when michael jordan was best. Even if he didn't win the championship we all knew he was the best. If lebron didn't win the championship we all knew each the best. This is a fluid situation. But right now. I'm going with janice i because we jaanus plays jewish strips inside stop. Being the point guard stopped being a point forward he can dominate inside like katie dominates on the perimeter but dion is can dominate on the defensive in as well janas can dominate the backboard as well janas as lethal as k. d. in transition blow into the and dunkin people. The only thing to do is straw. Shoppers stopped we in the point. Yeah just do y'all thing in the paint big man and nobody's going to stop us. Peyton jaanus is an even the closer for his own team. Chris middleton was the closer. Chris middleton wasn't closer for the olympic team. it was kevin durant. and by the way damian. Lillard you guys always call him superstar. He's gonna supers he gets up to the to quincy for bags both. I'm sorry does he didn't play. Well play well. And kevin said i got you. Don't worry about it. Kevin went and took the ball imbalance because he said come foul me. I'll go down to that free. Throw line and i will make both in. This will be over mccrea's if you look at this get they're not. They're not making the medal rounds. Chris because they get down about forty one when kevin durant been spectacular the keep it keep attach because he said i'm not shooting threes on put my head down and get about fifteen feet and i'm going to elevate a you're not going to be able to do. And they just can't kill tippit without kevin durant. They're not making the medal rounds. Luke you want to make a case would have played differently. I think they would have played. You know when you got kevin durant. You've got the crutch right you know you've got this guy that can take over any did but i think they if they don't have paid the differently dame and you're right. He didn't play well. Drew holiday actually played better than but devon booker play. Well right middleton played. Especially at times. I mean i just think look team. Usa we shouldn't have to send our absolute best to win but we do have the world the globe but no individual countries caught up exactly says hasn't caught up. Slovenia hasn't caught up so we should still be winning. I'm not taking anything from k. D. but like you say a shanty at the end of the day the olympic stage is not where you prove you the best player final point about in the olympics. We were undersized. In every game you said that main. And then australia and france under under under saw kevin durant as a rim-protector as a shot blocker as the final. Line of defense was spectacular. He got us through undersized. He's like a two guard who can go underneath and defense. Oh i'm sorry. He's the best player on the planet. But i do believe kevin durant and maybe because he's playing for the team that everybody was rooting for usa. I believe kevin durant became equally as beloved if not more so than winning two championships. Then golden state griff. Because i reading my timelines. And i'm seeing everybody's tweety and what everybody's putting on rg skip. He became the beloved figure desert. Marcy well it's been a wild offseason for aaron rodgers and the packers to say the least but in the green bay's franchise. Qb signed a reworked deal and as part of the contract final year which was set to be twenty twenty three. Well now be voided. This means rodgers will become a agent a year earlier than previously scheduled although the packers could trade him next offseason so shannon. Are you surprised. He will play this year in green bay a little because the situation seen unattainable for a while there of the packers game. They look you the plan for us. So you're not playing this year choice is yours. You can forego thirty thirty five million dollars in state at home and mope and talked about how bad we we. Don't listen to you or you come here and play. I would have liked to see a brady out like to see. Roger get a brady deal. Greatest i'll tell you what i'd do. Give me eight million dollars signing bonus to get up to about twenty three million because i got fifteen million base. Give me another. make it twenty three. And then let me be a number stricter. Free that the end of the year. And you can't franchise because now i won't choice of where i'd go. We're talking about with new wings. Wingless killing he said. I wanna be free and you can't tag me well. He's still have a year left and green bay limited. Greenberg go to do. We let you go for nothing. We're gonna trade you to eighteen. Gives us the best value sauce. I like him getting that. Twenty twenty three but they do playing football the twenty twenty two so he's not out of the woods just yet no but it just seems to me skip everybody saying the right things now is a process. Gouden kids he. They're talking and we gotta work through yada yada yada yada yada. A-rod is wants out. He wanted out. And i believe at the end of this year he will be go but it might not be to the team that he wants to go to because he doesn't really have that choice because they still have his rights for another year. So all through all the gnashing of teeth that aaron rodgers has gone gone gone i dug over here and i said no. No no. He will be a packard. They should dig in they dug in and it feels like it. Sounds like i think green bay won this because they get the services for another year. Rogers still a pack. Louise still the defending mvp. And they're still a very good football team. And yet i told you. All along. Aaron rodgers would like to retire a packer and all all things considered i believe. That's what he wants to do. He also knows his brands get buttered. Pretty good in green bay because devante was ranked number one by pro football focus number one receiver pro. Football last year was davante adams postal allergy. They both posted. Roger devante last day at pitcher jordan pippen. Okay well is that just their way of trying to get even for what happened to air air. Go devante the money pro. Football focus rank green-baize pass blocking last year. Second in the nfl. This is a pretty good situation right and he knows it. I thought it was a sympathy. Play on his part to say first of all he wanted more money and he didn't get any more money they wanted to give it to me. Say what did he tell you about. The money didn't look. I knows he has bought tr. Here's an outstanding offensive line running back. Air jones is phenomenal. Really good by Robert tanya they got about this gallon they got guys and after another receivers gallon. They're very opposites. But it was never about the i think he elaborately laid out. What called the problem now. Look green. bay's like look. We cages have here. But this a retirement facility here. We have guys when gas reductions. Start to wane. We just can't keep them because the boys we gotta do it. I get it. You know he wanted them to keep jordan. He wanted to clean mcclay matthew junior the different guys car but this one that he's like the money that they were asking for the value of the production that they were giving. It just didn't alive. Aaron has to understand that but that's something they could have shared with him. They talk to him about because he's look tom. Tom get whatever you. Won't tom talk. You know pay a denver. Whatever he asks for well they normally do that when you leave now. Why you tom. When he was in new. England is aaron rodgers. Tom brady. Let's get no is there. Rogers peyton manning. No chicago bears called eddie down and told them that they're gonna take a quarterback the ended. Don't just got their first of all antidote. When they told day was taking justin feels he should have gotten this call and met. Justin feels that the airports here. I'm here all right. Raj bear rudd. If begging give that courtesy to andy dalton what aaron rodgers deserve. Forget that he's not as accomplish. He's okay and he'll say he's not as good tom okay. Aaron rodgers one and four in. nfc championship they. Don't this isn't about andy at you. Put it out saying he saying even when they took patrick mahomes. Guess what big ray andy. Reid picked up the phone call. Alex smith said we're gonna take a quarterback. Give out this just common courtesy. That's all the packers won this battle. I'm not here to debate. That they have another year business or no.

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Hour 1: Nick Wright + Milk

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

48:28 min | 4 months ago

Hour 1: Nick Wright + Milk

"This episode is brought to you by the nba. From the squeak of shoes on the hardwood to the tips of their fingers. It's mesmerizing dance of jaw-dropping downs heartbreaking blocks and mind-blowing steals. It's the most fantastic athletes in the world. Who make your heart beat out of your chest and make you want to jump into the screen and be right on the court with them. That's the nba. That's game don't miss the nba playoffs going on now. This is the dan lebatardshow with this. Two cats podcasts. That billy gill. Oh my god integrate. How are you. What's up man totally agree on the whale's mouth just shit yeah just obvious. There's no i mean what are we. What are we talking about. How would you make a whale throw up. I don't know punching him in the u. Below like you guys discussed. I don't think it's the strategy walking meg. What is your strategy though. I think it'd be actually get in there. You're just but luckily that guy he wasn't. I was watching something on disney plus this weekend made. These wells are big. Might have under underestimate wells. Pinocchio was faked way. Also maybe tell jessica that her species takes are really bad. I'm right here. Oh sorry you weren't showing up on my feet. Sorry you weren't one of the people at the top jessica. Those bad takes all you know. I read a whole story this morning. That there's an octopus city named oct- lantis. Yeah that's why it was a bad take is you could have gone to act apply and instead you were like nah right there by whatever. That's the same difference. They're both smart. Is it our place to be naming cities that are being established by octa pie. Seems like appropriation. Things up to stugatz is taking an earned victory lap today. Sports is filled with losers. Who can be criticised mike. Sure is confused by stu. Gods take he's writing and so the way to earn respect is to lose on your own but if you lose you don't get rings. Which is the only thing that matters lose with jeff. Green right losing jeff. Green while scoring fifty points is better than winning with steph curry and klay thompson. Yup i said okay. So here's nick right first things first. I'm sure he's going to agree. Vigorously with this. Let's see what you've got nick. What is your opinion here. Nick has just emerged. He is demanding. Be heard because what because to guide demanded in favor. I was like i don't have or dan cell phone numbers mike ryan who is my personal connection to the show's not here. So i i. I called the people at twitter and was like hey for thirty seconds. Can you make dan. follow me on twitter. Why was like. I gotta send them at the m you can fix it after so he did a nice show. I've got a question for you. Dan as you. Patronize my guys guys. Who has the obviously correct take. Do you like action movies. Are you a fan of any of them. I like them but not to you. Know not many of you stand. You're more of a you know deeper thought no country for old men type of thing i get it but like die hard. You enjoyed it. Rice diehard was great. Because it was one. Bruce willis against twelve terrorists. You know what action movie sucks. If there's four bruce willis to terrorism's well he's supposed to do that. And and that people yearn to see their heroes as underdogs. That is one of the things we like to see. Be a and b e a loss creates a greater sense of all the bill meant and astonishment for many. Then when it's like well he's got three of the four best players on the court so of course they won so yeah. This is similar to for a lot of people. Lebron's twenty fifteen finals loss with mas gov and delhi was more impressive than his twenty twelve or thirteen finals. Victories in miami. Like there's not a bad take. It's actually the right take and i dolph my proverbial captors guts. Thank you so neck. Would you say is super team. Would be like the expendable in this situation. It's not just the expendable. Aren't those superhero movies. The justice league stuff like don't superheroes get together all the time and we love those action movies. The fast and the furious doesn't have it a bunch of people that are huge stars. Careful listen. I'm not familiar with the fast. And furious franchise But here's the thing about the superhero movies. You mentioned that's make believe die hard it actually. You're talking about a real okay. They try a lot of people. Use willis your john maclean against a lot of people john wick against a lot of people and horses. This is. it's a simple formula that durant fell into and now it's like. Wow look at what he did. That's amazing it was great which is why like the guy went over six in overtime. An air ball game winning shot. Nobody's going to criticize them. Because it's like we get it. we understand. You did everything you could've done. You played a brilliant basketball game and now if he had zero rings than obviously you would be looked at differently but he's already checked. You're just like in life or in sports. I what. I'm gonna use an uncomfortable analogy but let's do it dan you'd accomplished almost everything professionally except for this so you wanted to check off this box. It's like okay. I won all the newspaper. Awards had a great radio show had a great television show. I've done all this corporate backing. What about what's the box left the check. Let me try to own a forgive us. Your internet connection is a little bit. Spotty what i would say to you and to everybody as we're talking about this is an i don't know how it is. You guys extend your respect for others. I have never questioned. The greatness of kevin durant kevin durant isn't any greater to me today than he has been at any point in terms of how great he is at basketball. He did not show me anything that i did not think that he was capable of. He's one of the greatest scores every makes it look easier than anyone i've ever seen play the sport and it doesn't matter to me whether he's got four superstars or one superstar still one of the best players ever it doesn't change the measurement or the respect for me one iota. But when you're one of the well. Dan first off. You did see him do something. He rarely does which is carried. Jeff green around which is keri blake. Griffin. and i haven't seen because he played with russell westbrook and he's always played with stars before this necessitated him being someone who scored more. But he's every bit as great as i thought he was. There's no distinction for me. There's no difference for me. i'm not. I'm not surprised that kevin durant can score against anybody. The man average is thirty points. A game what. Nick and i are saying is when you have that kind of taliban superior talent all time talent. You don't need help. You don't need recruits. You don't need to go seeking a championship like john. Maclean was founded his own. Can you imagine if he called in and marian. Cabrini think about it. Well let me ask you this d dan. I'm not surprised by the scoring. you weren't a little surprised in game. Five with the passing and in games five and seven with the forty eight minutes and fifty three minutes. I was a little surprised what i'm surprised by. Is that after. That injury could be the same player that he was before that after that injury he could play those kinds of minutes but he wasn't showing me anything that was. He's showing you something. You didn't think it was capable of what it's not that i didn't. I actually thought he could do it. But i didn't know it now. We know it. Yes a all right. I can't one of my supposed to keep doing with this. Is an internet connection has been third time that this has happened. What do we do can. Can we get into any better nikola. Why don't you try disconnecting from zoom and calling back in blown the cartridges. Well okay if that were. That's how we're going to do all right. We'll try and bring nick back that. I have someone that agrees with me and here. He is getting cut off. I feel like someone sabotaged us. I do find it interesting. That stu gods is willing when the measurement has always been rings. Yeah it's the measurement this time. The measurement is second round playoff. The definition just made andy dalton an all time. Great ginger category admittedly by simply getting to the playoffs right. The measurement is win. I didn't make him an all time. Greats i mean as you pointed out top ten redhead of all time go ahead. Give me nine other seriously. You're missing important factor here though dan. Qr quality rings and right now is a ton of quality rings as rings. Right right you are. He only has a couple of ours and no ours in stugatz. His personal recommend. I'm willing to upgrade damars meaningless upgrade. I thought we already work. I didn't know rings right rings and you're thinking about based on based on a second round playoff loss you're thinking about i've ever seen why you're thinking of upgrading him to meaningless rings which is a step short of meeting full rings. The highest compliment is quality rings. I just wanna make sure. I have these measurements. While the rings jordan has six of that he would add eight if they two years. Okay so but that is. I thought that that was the measurement. I think that jordan got any credit whatsoever for all of those playoff losses before he got all the ring. Like allies yuan does not have quality rings. The only reason he he won those rings was because jordan took the two years off. they're not quality rings. Sorry does a lifeline. Having to ours. Listen for yes. The first one he had no help stugotz and robert ory in its guinea. Spent there's no other stars there. That's one of the best rings ever. The jordan would've won eight straight is obviously a terrible take. But i'm not gonna go. I wanna be team got so into terrible take. It's just outrageous taken. It doesn't stand up to the scrutiny of any history raynal analysis whatsoever slowing down after three. I what i was trying to say before. The internet stopped me from being great. And i'm on my phone. I hope this is far better than did you not get a different sense of step this year then you had had previously. We have been having nick this conversation. Since the sacramento kings started losing piece by piece this. When when the sacramento kings had weber and stoyanovich and bibi. Do you remember how year-by-year they'd lose a piece and then all of a sudden bibi was a little bit better stay star. Yaacob was statistically better but the team ended up being worse so yes of course when steph has to carry the whole thing. He statistically as better and their team stinks. He's great but what happens. They're in eighth seed because it happened. We just saw this happen. We saw just happened with paul. George choir goes out eight. Look paul george is better than we thought harden and kyrie or not right. Oh look durant is better than we thought. He was a look. Devon booker just had a triple double first time. What was the difference. Chris paul's of course. If i give somebody who's great all the usage rate they're going to be great and their team's gonna be lesser. Okay yes sometimes and sometimes guys just crumble under sometimes guys just can't do it like the only question left with step this year. We all knew that you took steps off the warriors and fifteen and sixty and put russ or hard in their place. The warriors would have been worse but there was a legitimate question was the opposite. Also if you would put step on the twenty seventeen thunder the team that ross had averaged a triple double won. The scoring title led to the playoffs. Lost could he have done that or because he's a little smaller and not as athletic. Would it not translate. It was an unknown. We then got to see it and it's like oh he can do everything. You seem to be confident that the all the great players can do everything. I like to see it with durant. We got to see it nick. You'll see it every time. Kevin love was this in minnesota and his team stunk. And then he goes and he's the second or the third best player and what happens. They end up winning a championship. Chris bosh did this in toronto. And his team stunk. Like every guy in that league who is actually great. Give me all the guys who haven't it. When you've seen them crumble under it. But lebron one with kevin love you want an nba championship. Like kevin durant. Problem is danny gets too much help. It's like it's not enough just to have one player. He needs draymond. Green needs klay thompson. And he'd steph curry and then he needs. James harden kyrie irving. Kyri was enough goes. I went to guy. He doesn't need anybody to score. Thirty points a game for his entire prime. He doesn't need anybody to do that. He averages that it's his average game is to be better at scoring than just about anyone ever no matter. Who is teammates are like we know this about him. So danja your question. I think a good example is kyrie irving kyrie irving. Will you always score right but will you win at all. I guess you're you're making the point is the good stance bad team guy. I think durant showed you this series. That i know they ended up losing in overtime by a shot but i think he showed you the series that i mean literally cy seventeen which he does wear. That's the crazy thing from this week. In this. he wears size seventeen in real life in eighteen in the games because it makes them feel as big deal better. That's a real thing. He talked about like three years ago. I think the nets are the favorites to win the title right now with no korean no hardware. I didn't think that would have been the case three weeks ago. Because i'm like as great as during his can't be the playmaker. Kenny play forty. Five minutes in the ploughs you you you knew it without seeing. I needed to see it. I think gots needed to see it. I don't know how you're so confident of it without having seen it. I don't view sports. I've said this before right. It's the idea to me. It's childish way of viewing sports that to be the child hiding behind the couch. Who doesn't see that his feet are out and so someone can see their feet and because that child believes that no one can see them. That is so. I don't need to see to know that something is so like kevin durant is one of the best scorers ever. If i put him on any team ever nick you know good and well that team's going to be relevant. Are they going to be championship. Good i don't know i still don't know if that would have been enough. It wasn't enough to beat milwaukee. I don't know that would have been enough to beat phoenix or or the clippers. It was good enough to beat milwaukee. Okay i the. Nobody is denying that he's one of the greatest scores ever. I just. I think that across sports let me get. Let me as one other thing. Because i feel like i'm frustrating. You and i don't mean to especially designed by myself on your show you only. It's only your internet connection. That's frustrating me. It's not your argument and you agreeing with me. Are you've or do you. Do you feel fully confident that mike trout would be a great playoff performer. Yes okay. I don't know how you can based on what he's a somewhat. He's graded baseball. But so you don't think there's there is such a thing as the guys who in the crucible of the moment get worse in snagged and small samples. There are in randomness like baseball and basketball. There's very little. It's why what. Ben simmons did yesterday and in that series. It's so confusing. What reference points do you have for someone. Just totally collapsing everything. They've ever been where you're looking at something and you can see that someone is scared. Yeah there's usually in all the great players. It doesn't happen to ben and ben eight himself alive there. I just the. I guess the the kid looking at his feet thing. I understand the at the point. But i think in sports we have enough examples of guys. Who certain guys who get better in the biggest spot certain desert stay the same inserting guys who get five to ten percent worse. Which is all that separates the great from the all time greats that when we get a piece of kong not speculation concrete evidence that oh what lebron did in twenty eighteen with those calves post kyri. Katie could have done something similar. That's valuable for katie. And you knew it. Evidently before i did you were certain of it. I wasn't like i did want see because you're he was drafted into the team and they got rust. He then shows the team with steph and clay he then shows the team with kyrie and then they winning harden so. It's not even like the we had snapshots we didn't even have moments of it now. We have a series of it against a great team dan. He was celebrated in a way after game. Five and game seven in a way he's never been celebrated before universally kevin durant was like more celebrated than him winning finals. Mvp and winning a championship. Oh boy believe. That's an indictment of the people viewing not of him. i think his talent is so singular. Nick that i'm a bit shocked to hear. You say that kevin durant as the lead player on a team can't make just about anyone feel championship. Good the way that lebron did you know when when we knew he was gonna lose in the finals but he what did he end up doing ended up shooting that one year. I don't know what year it was where he ended up shooting thirty five percent but he was taking forty shots playing irresponsible basketball for him. He plays smart basketball. He was playing reckless inefficient basketball. But we all felt like he could do that. I didn't need to see it did you. Well yeah we'll with lebron no because we had seen it no senate because we had seen it from lebron for seven years in cleveland. I like you can say. Because he's an all time great he could do it. Kobe couldn't do this. Cohen couldn't kobe tried. He could like koby. Couldn't do it as great as he was the three years of kobe's career he didn't have a hall of famer alongside him. He missed the playoffs. Once out of the from the two other years scored a bunch of points couldn't couldn't carry. I felt like durant showed you it bouncier bounce. There could have carried them through the championship. Your art just to be clear. Nick your argument is if i haven't seen it. It can't be so no my argument. Is that if you haven't seen it. You don't know it is so in sports you aren't you're just you're definitively saying you knew it but the reason is no the what i know is his greatness naked. I know is that you're telling me that kevin durant because for ten years. He has never done. Never been on a team where he's the only guy because he has never been on a team where he's the only time guy that he can't be an all time great. Who carries a team. He didn't do it with bus broke. I mean what they were grades to. God you know they were great. What do you mean. He didn't do it. He got further than this and last night we broke. He got further than here with westbrook. The last time we saw him in a similar situation he was up. Three one against golden state. They lost the next three and then he left him went to golden state. So he didn't do it. I mean he got to the finals but he didn't do it. He got further than here. What do you mean didn't do what pin eliminated in the second round. I mean what you saw in game five is something i've never seen from kevin durant before i mean we're all sitting here trying got you've seen it seen him carry around. Jeff greene the reason. You've never seen it as because he's never been on a team where there isn't a second gosh right but we saw for a night and he looked incredible. Like the best kevin durant i've ever seen. He's looked i mean. I don't know what to tell you guys like he's looking pretty great the entirety of his career under all circumstances. There's also a season where he didn't have a second guy was twenty thirteen. fourteen russell. Westbrook got hurt ahead of the season and he had a won the mvp that year. It had multiple games raise in the forties. He carried oklahoma city deep into the playoffs that year which considering he was without russell westbrook for most of it was really damn impressive. The hold on to be fair. Chris that russ did not miss. That spoil. Season russ was there for the playoffs. Durant in oklahoma city played one full series without russell westbrook. It was against memphis after. Patrick beverley blew out. Messed up. Russell's knee in the first round against houston so. I'm not sure what year you're talking about. In in comparison but rut katie only play one playoff series ever without russ in st was the second round against memphis and he played one in golden state without steph. It was against the spurs but he also obviously had claimed. I it is it is very. It is surprising to me. Dan that like you having watched sports as long as you add are totally discounting the to me. You're discounting the mental aspect of expectations. Pressure and circumstances like i think there is no arguments to be made in the world that by an identity. Peyton manning is a far better quarterback than tom brady except for the fact that one day clearly up to his game repeatedly in the big spots and the other guy had some of his worst moments in biggest spots. That's not small sample size luck. That is some people rise the agent some people don't and or durant when there was the built in the building confidence of knowing. If i don't have it tonight my other guys can carry me. That changes the circumstances to allow you to achieve at least me and not even dimension just the pure cana- guy whose body is built like that play forty eight minutes that you can't say you. There's no way he knew he could play forty eight and he did it often. Achilles drew marketable outside of barry bonds and perhaps peyton manning. I think you're going to have a hard time finding anyone who has historic kinds of excellence that you would make heart. Make these claims about chris. Paul harder james disagree on chris. Paul chris paul has been great but what about hardened dan tell me. Harden has not been good in the playoffs so far and i believe that if i gave him a representative sample over the course of his prime that would correct itself. I it has put like one hundred and forty playoff games. It's it's like more than it's almost two seasons in the play offs. I don't i don't know. I mean i i okay we just. We fundamentally disagree on that. I we can agree on. Jessica's terrible squid. Take if you'd like to end this on a happy thing is it terrible. Come on jessica yet occupy right there. They can change color they can ship. They can shape shift. They can do a lot of things their literal aliens pablo explained all this guys. And you went squid from like and octopus. What's the difference right like squid. We're okay well there you go. They do that. Can't argue that nick. I've been checkmated. Jessica dan to check me for fifteen minutes. I kept hitting karate chop. What about what about trout. What about james. You did it with the sweden thirty seconds you got you got me so you know that my trout won't be good in the playoffs because you haven't seen an that is dan you are. You are arguing in a like. I would almost say political manner here. Which is twisting my words. That what i'm saying. I am not saying. I know something won't happen. I am saying i don't know that it will i. I'm saying you seem to be certain. Mike trout because he's one of the greatest regular season players we've ever seen that will carry over into the postseason. I'm saying i do not think sports work that way. I would like to see it to know it. I would i bet on him. Being great in the postseason. I would would i as i am. I a certain of it as i am with. Mookie betts of course. Of course not why would i be. I've seen one. I haven't seen the other. You're arguing about the differences though between probabilities and certain tees and i would bet every time on the probabilities of historic greatness being historically great in moments that call for historic greatness. That's what that's how these people get remembered that way nick. You're the guy out here who's aren't always arguing about a. He's always arguing. That lebron is better than jordan. And both of those guys got all of these questions before they proved it to you that they could actually do it. Both of the guys are in the argument of greatest. You've ever seen in that sport. Got the same questions until people saw it and then we always back away from these guys when they do we always questioned the guy and then we can have the outliers. Whether it's chris. Paul or james harden or peyton manning we can have the outliers but the guys who are historically great are the ones who do it with excellence in the playoffs and then they show you. They've done it and they quiet all the critics. Yeah which is why jordan. It's such a shame. He never showed he could do without. Scotty i mean one nine plus my right stugatz without scotty like to see them win. Some without scotty. Yeah but also the guys like why is akeem. Olajuwon unquestionably greater than patrick ewing. Well their regular season numbers not that different. It's because one guy upped his game every bo- sees and one guy tended to get a little bit worse. What made why is dwayne way. One of the twenty five greatest players in league history. You ever want an mvp. Nope was the ever win a scoring data. One i think so. Why is he without a doubt one of the greatest players we've ever seen because of his finals performances particularly that i won like there is there's this is why we talked about as arguably the greatest player ever wasn't as regular season success. Nope you'd like to pursue. Mba's is because when other guys got worse. He got better. That's a real thing in sports. We see it all the time. Look what do you think dan. What did the mark jackson are you. Are you fully confident that he's going to have what is going to be considered a great career. I hear they're nuts. I have a hard time with him. Just in general because that it's a different math the way that he plays the sport like i am in general he confuses me and some of the same ways that been. Ben simmons did last night. I don't understand what it is that i'm watching with lamar jackson. Because i'm i'm watching a hybrid quarterback who's passing accuracy isn't the his passing strength is not what carries him all the time. Right but I is it also true. That sports are a little bit different almost across the board. Maybe except for baseball in the postseason. That not and i'm not talking about pressure i'm talking about how teams defend you schemes. All of it like it's the same thing that we we have seen that. Okay if you can build an entire game plan around stopping this one guy. Can he still kill you. And i think i to me. That stuff's interesting. And i know all the lebron folks on twitter were dying for me. The tweet me all weekend. Oh go after katie. The way people would go after lebron over six and overtime air balled the game winner and the answer to that is obviously the way people went out there. Lebron was illogical. And you shouldn't do that to anybody. But i listen i. I was listening to this morning. And i was like i totally agree with that. I i learned. I knew kevin durant could was unbelievable basketball. One of the greatest scores ever him going into golden state's did not teach me anything. This series me something so to me. That's fascinating. I find amazing after that series. The specifics not only did it. Teach you something but the respect for durant has been so universal and so consensus that the previous guy that you were doing that to jaanus. Everyone ignores that he was kind of great game to like. It's being ignored. That the that the winner in that game that you're questioning about his ability to do that in a game seven that he was also great in that game while playing an absurd number of also telling you katie also one in his own way. that's it. There is a difference. Dan when everyone knows you have to score fifty for the team. They have a chance. Everyone is geared up to try and stop you and you still go out there and you give them fifty. I mean it's a big difference. Wanted can can't fall back on steph. Clay won the mvp the year that everyone was wondering whether or not he could do that or not. Nick do you have anything else. Because i'm actually curious what it is that you thought the historical precedent of what you saw with. Ben simmons i i hate doing choke soft coward and i just thought that you're not going to get any one plant their flag on defending ben simmons today. Because of how weird it was to see someone who's allegedly superstar. You have to take him out of the game. Well yeah light and you guys can look it up. If i don't know when it was there was a game. This season against utah were ben. Simmons scored forty two points. Joel out there. And they ended up losing that game but it was he had forty two points almost a triple double and was dominant now. He is dominant against fraudulent rudy. Gobert there's another guy. Tell your advanced hell. When he had at tom haberstroh until adam. Tell me about what an mvp rudy go bears. That's another story. Let me stay on this Been got in his own head. I think that's pretty clear right. And i do think ben's in a rough spot in that if you took the fifteen best players in the league. The two worst to pair with ben johnson. Beat if you paired him with dame if you pair them with staffed pair them with any brimmer guy really unlock who he is and trey was five for twenty three. A lot of that was been. But i've never seen a guy takes zero shots in the fourth quarter in four straight games. We had antoine walker on the show and he brought up an amazing point. He was like how do you fall in love with basketball without enjoying shooting baskets he was like. That's the that's my favorite thing about the game. He was like how did you all in love. That is such a great name. Though that is such a great name to summon like antoine water. Tanto antoine walker win that he loved shooting lifetime without understanding. Why others don't like to shoot. Yeah but it's i think you i think you have to trade him. I also think that. If you're my pal. Daryl morey. It's a bitter pill. You were this close to trading ben for james heart and now you're gonna trade him for cj mccollum like you do after trade him this offseason. You're trading him at is nee dear right you're trading at his absolute low point and i don't think that's what anybody planned to do but i don't know how you run this back. I also don't if you're philly you could have won the title with homecourt throughout and with never having to be lebron. Anthony davis if he's out yokich k. d. Harn steph hiree dane. You gotta won the title without ever having to be any of those guys and you were basically pretty healthy and to blow games foreign five the way they did and then in game seven home hold trade of five of twenty three and lose that is a. That's an all time bad one man and all time bad one first things first is where you will catch him and you should because he knows more than most. Thank you nick for being on with us. Thank you sorry for the bad internet connection. I blamed billy stu gods here for our friends over at draftkings. I love draftkings. I spend all my time there seriously. I have my mail sent there. I do people say. What's your address. My dresses draftkings dot. gop drafting. Sportsbook is not only my favorite sports book would also america's top rated sportsbook. 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If you if you if you wanna do some damage with it you could s moves move had have you never been to cosco cosco. Never been like a costco. Bj's sam clubs like a big club. I think maybe. When i was like young i may be was in one but greg public's they're not you're missing out you know. Is it a scam over effort that you waste by so most people know you end up wasting their wasting it produce. You don't do from higher and thing a ham at the same time. There's nothing you either get that at walmart. Maybe depending on the size of walmart and they sell you like your lunch for like sixty five cents. Everything you want fresh pizza. The pizza soga the hog. Ota yes hot dog for a dollar and the hot like this big I've heard groupon has good stuff for that. Like you can get your first year of one of those places for like twenty five bucks on groupon expensive though what's like a full year. That's a good question. I don't know if it does group on doing by the way they still kicking on groupon really went on a nosedive after like twenty thirteen. Feel like my mom. Single keeps groupon and business. She always just like she makes it rain. When you come out and be like like what are you wanna let me see filed through a bunch of like. She has just opened up the groupon app at the first thing when i popped up and it says trending sam's club sixty six percent of twenty five bucks for the year. Wow right open monday to me yesterday. Right on the money. Even though sam's club we can agree as kind of the lesser tier said. I'm just saying. I think it's costco. Bj's and than anything back to group most things right. Yes absolutely absolutely but they cash value like you always get that twenty five dollars. You spent on it back. Because i do. Restaurants pay twenty-five for sixty dollars worth of food and then even if it expires. You still get that cash value. Basically what i'm saying is is like unless you know of a place on groupon. Andy know it to be good. If you're trying a place that you found none group on it probably sucks. Wow agri cheese over here. Every time i go to change my oil i go to groupon jiffy lube. They have the best deals on changing oils and work for for autoparts. Yeah every single time for some reason. There's a lot of skydiving. I wouldn't trust my life to a group on get skydiving outta my life just in general just like anything worse. I if you said to me. What's the last thing you'd wanna do on the saturday afternoon. It skydiving really. They do think there's no. I don't want to almost die today. No i know i drive. I know he's looking at right now. You know it's probably more dangerous driving to the dr driving to this guy having more dangerous than skydiving. It doesn't feel more dangerous though. Yeah that's important factor for me how dangerous it feels. I mean look you are. You're jumping out of an airplane and only only a contraption is to stop you from dying contract. yes and some guys. Like velcro domain reliant. Correct bill crude. Just the word wilder right now. A scroll down a little bit. Hgh factor natural muscle building enhancer. Like wow just straight a. g. h. looks like a group on now twenty bucks. Didn't they sell you that that one time with that concrete thing that you are taking dow is even though it's another place. Cv diaz seems to be big on. You've never heard the story of billy eating concrete remote it wasn't actual concrete but it might as well have been concrete is i. It was it was a protein shake that was for someone that was meant to wait like three hundred pounds and it almost killed me. And it'd be stern my kidneys from what i hear wasn't the best. I don't feel like we're a skydiving. Show looking around the zoom in this room. I feel like there's two people. And mike's one of these not even here filling skydiving once indoor ads in defense safe now. It's not skydiving. Jump out of a tony and my greiner. The only two people on this show. That go skydiving. Y'all gonna have fun. I'd give it a go really right when he's when he's on all right nice. Mike would go skydiving really. I could see my add-ons he mike skydiving. I mean witty. All right so i was was right about you. Yeah remember i told you i was. Let's let's go skydiving ideal. You graduate from wanting to skydive when you have kids. Because i've never wanted to be. That could be a factor like dan's definitely not skydiving. I'd dumb bj's forty bucks for the year fifteen more than sam's club. What about l. balloons. I'd rather skydive the on now. I really rather going in air balloon. Yeah i've often thought. Like if i go on a plane if i should just by only personal parachute just in case things go south. I'm ready to ready to bail for half. You know what. I mean now billy earlier. I was very jealous of your invention. Take i thought it was an absolutely incredible. Take that it was easier to be an inventor absolutely nowhere. I mean it should have a great day. You should try. But it's the truth. It's a fatty was the first person to come up with the concept of a hot air balloon as a means of travel right. Let's propel ourselves into the air using hot air and what ideas like didn't make it like you know. If that was one of those years they probably had to be the first person that went into the sky in a hot air balloon. Like i've heard this before like the there had a first person that decided. I'm going to drink the milk of a cow right and that first person was a bold man or woman or woman yeah but either way that person had a remarkable amount of fortitude in order to think i'm gonna drink the milk of a cow now someone also had to be the first person that decided this basket. I don't know we call. We call the other a wicker basket. Someone had to go up into the sky in a wicker basket propelled by hot air. Decided i'm going to try this. This person's name in the chat. It's it's a you name. Oh yeong francois. What the hell's yeah. That's how we reached the name. You say auto the camera a little bit like swap. Lots ed eros I haven't told you guys that on my honeymoon in africa the hot air balloon caught fire. What i when you were in. Yes no i went. I stopped in hawaii on my way to after the way you know what actually forgive me i got my timeline screwed up your i got. I went on my honeymoon honeymoon. I went to. Japan africa's when i got engaged but the hot air balloon was going over the plains of africa so you are basically their animal's beneath animals. That can eat you and i look up. I look up and the balloon itself has a whole that is growing that is growing because it is on fire that is correct over an african plain and the guy seemed like it wasn't the scariest thing in the world. It's like looking at the flight attendant making sure if they're not panic you're good and they were not panicked but we absolutely did crash land near some deng near some fresh. I don't know what animal it was but the basket ended up sideways. Just sort of spilling us out into the world claim. Yes is it hot. Air balloon crash crash. It was it was a land accident. It was a landing that made them the basket supposed to land flat. It did not land flat it landed and then went to its side and spit us out and my head ended up near some fresh animal. Dung of some sort when does does poop graduate to done when you're in the african many times. Have you been on hot air. Is that the first. I think somebody's told the story of being in a hot. It was either you or stugatz. Cigarettes also claims the bit yes. God said on during a romantic adventure that his air balloon ended up in a tree with his wife abby. I don't think i've been on a hot air balloon other than that time and that may be my last. Obviously that did not go away. I wanted to so what happens after you. Land near the dengue dislike. The digital breakfast was a romantic breakfast. Near where you took off from land we landed where we were supposed to or close to where we were supposed to land. It wasn't like a panic situation. They were asking what the situation was. Was your honeymoon or when you were proposing that you ended up in a tree in your hot air. Balloon did not propose in a hot air balloon. But i did go on a hot air balloon trip of ride in san francisco northern california on my honeymoon. We got stuck in a tree. And i haven't been back since i moved to the area by the way just avoided the entire tree. Not just hot air balloons. You voted the entire west coast. Because of the time that you ended up thinking now we're talking about people inventing stuff like when they were trying to invent flying. There must have been some ideas that didn't work right like all right. Maybe this'll work instead of putting hot air balloon. Lets you know. I don't even know what the ridiculous it just seemed like some of those things that just bounce up and down lila the plane models before they figured it out of ridiculous. I imagine as someone on a bicycle trying to get it like it's a bicycle propelled and like there's a thing that flaps like you're right the ideas on the cutting room floor for flying. I don't have anything better than what you offered. But i do love you went straight from. I wonder who the first person was to take flight in a hot air balloon to the first person to drink milk as if it was the same kind of danger. I the second and you're not wrong like it is wait a minute this cow excreting something from its utter. Let me drink that. The first person who did that did show some bravery i mean. Bad milk is a dangerous game. Dan bill but he's not talking about spoiled milk. He's talking about the first person to have tried milk ever in the history of milk. I don't know why you have milk coming out of a cow's spoiled. Is there any particular reason. It's the freshest possible milk. no that's saying you're the first one it's the unknown warm though. Yeah i wouldn't say that the first person to drink build from a cow was brave. I think it was like the crazy person of the town. That's like you know what fluids coming out of this animal. Let's drink that. And they're like i don't know about that tim. I don't think we're gonna be drinking that stuff coming out of that animal and then sure enough. Tim's like toiling. I feel so strong. Now lajos calcium and then white okay. We'll try it and then it caught on. Do you think they also tried p. I the milk's good. Maybe all kinds of loves gopi. Billy would you do me the favor. Please telling me more out of an animal about this. Tim grew yeah. Yeah one knows that tim right. The does the thing they know about that tim. I wouldn't be doing that. I never was wild. Timmy hits one out of the party. Like okay cool timmy. Invented candles dry cereal. I and they were like man. We just need something to go with this era serial game before the milk have corn. Age-old water let me. Just be clear on this. You got somebody walking through an old town. Okay was raising brand i way. What about that cow over there. Maybe something in that. Cow's utter would make this race brand taste a little better. We're laughing but this had the breeze. Don't well no. It was not boot drives. I'm gonna go. Which would which do you guys think. Is i in terms of consumption. Cereal or milk. Put it on the phone at lebatardshow. What was the first thing consumed by man milk series raisin bran.

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No dunks to get your free quote today. That's the zebra dot com slash. Docs today honestly just felt like we got behind early. After the milk's bill and the marker on the wall just felt like we're playing catch up the rest of the day right before you went to the store you call the time out. Was there an attitude change after that. It felt like we were losing our heads there for a minute so we wanted to just calm things down and get back to the basics. Did you ever find your keys. No no idea there. You gave him a snack half hour before dinner plan. No last time was just wasn't thinking and so you know three bites at dinner. That's on me and didn't look like you had many answers to the double teams. That question morning swimmer old. And welcome to the podcast network. It's friday june eighteenth. This is the drop because it's the end of the week. I'm jay e skeet alongside as always most. What's up everybody. Task top sean. 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Maybe eight later this week and who knows nine. He'd be nine liter maybe ten. Oh maybe eleven. We've got tweeted the night we've got rapid fire because it is the drop but first breaking news this morning and to help set it up. We turn now to the southern lawyer. Also there is. It's been a while since we've heard from the southern lower. Yeah we do. We gotta wash bomb here before recording. The no dunks podcast. Thank you thank you celtics. Thank you under thank you. Nba yeah the report. The celtics are trading kemba walker. Their twenty twenty one first round pick sixteenth overall pick in this year's draft and a future second round pick to okay see for a package that includes horford and those beautiful eyes sweet lows brown and that a twenty twenty three second rounder out of nowhere. Legally what's your immediate reaction to this trade with walker going to okay see and offered going back to boston. Well we heard that kim walker and the boston celtics both wanted to part ways and that happened fairly quickly really kemba walker was obviously a big free agent signing their play but those injuries really started to stack up and He really just couldn't stay on the floor and they still owed him. Potentially two years and seventy four million. I think it was that second year player option and the celtics clearly just decided that he didn't want to be here. We see what we can get for him. You just call up. Sam pristine say i'll give you. I do that. They get al horford back in boston. And look al horford so i think thirty four now I think i believe one year lifting his contract after this season and he's still probably upgraded what they have in the middle. But i'm not sure what he's going to be a longtime. I'm sure there's probably more to happen to this. And the same thing with cambridge. Okay see i'd say that's an impressive. He'll probably hang onto him for a bit But i think long term somewhere else because case. He's clearly at a different stage in terms of rebuilding and restarting trying to build from the bottom up in cambridge idea. Korea wants to go to a the. There's possibly more to happen there. But you know Kimba funny because he was a really good play when he played on those Celtics teams thought. He was so important to their offense but when guys a knee injury start to pile up like that. He got frustrated with the team. I think the thing frustrated with him. And i decided to move on so brad. Stevens makes his first big. Move as free as a general manager here. And he's a first round pick gets moses brown. He showed them. I think he had big boost in speed. Yeah yeah nineteen rebounds in the first. Half of his big yeah. I'm not mistaken. Yeah people are saying he averaged fifteen fifteen in the two games against the celtics to saw brave. Good you take a flyer on them. I mean he's jiang and games that are basically meaningless. Now you're on a squad that has goals and wants to go far in the playoffs. We'll see what he can do in that situation. He's still likely i guess offer. There is the third big. I mean he's gonna be starting on this team by any means it's robert williams and then horford i would assume he is still there and then him but yeah it's camber just getting off that tasks and saying save us a little bit money you do save money between the camera and horford contracts horford in twenty twenty two twenty three. It's partially guaranteed deal. So it opens up options for them to what. What's the plan here. Though from brad. Stevens pass is just like we got to try and find that third star and we've decided it's not going to become a walker to pair with with tatum and brown. What do you think his thinking is here. Yeah the celtics won this trade for sure. They're getting off of campus. Seventy three million dollars that he has left. He's on the wrong side of his career. That's for sure. And you'd say well so as al horford. He's twenty million dollars less and they also get a prospect back in this deal. Moses brown who. He's twenty one years old yet. Seven block game sure it could be walter herrmann stats year. But at least he's at least he's seven two and huge a rim deterrent and scott. Some potential in this league. He's twenty one he's young isn't this what okay see collects all those draft picks for to get somebody like moses brown. I hate this deal for okay. See i don't see how it makes a lot of sense for them. They get the sixteenth. Pick back maybe. You get somebody better than moses brown. I suppose there's a chance maybe a package. All these draft picks that you have. But i guess they really have a feel of moses brown. Don't like them. But from what i saw he seven two. He moves around the paint fairly well for a huge guy. I understand that he can't get to the three point. Line all that great for defensive player and maybe this isn't his era but you're taking on seventy three million dollars of kemba walker who we know is not. He's just not the same kemba walker to get rid of fifty three Not totally guaranteed of al horford for the sixteenth. Pick in the draft. What are we doing here. I just don't. I do not say prestigious hoping what he's done. Before taking on like point guards with big contracts and sort of rehabilitate their image to the rest of the league and then flip it for more. Is that probably what he's thinking. Here with kemba walker is definitely not kemba walker is going to take us to the promised. Land it's i think bring them in and then he other plays. Well like schreuder. Chris you're gonna plan get more. I guess in return for them. I think thinking better six extract gamble go ahead. It's an expensive gamble seventy-three mill. It's a lot a lot of bucks that he's going to be paid over the next two years. So you gotta handcuff yourself with the salary cap as well. I i get what you're saying but you know i just i just saw al turned into the sixteenth pick but you also have to trade a pretty good prospect and like you said you'd hope he schreuder a and he turns into something. What did they get for sure. I don't even jesus any green and the first first visit. That's what this is all going to be. This is just going to be kemba walker. Maybe he plays half a season in okay seat until the next the next trade deadline. In which case he will be traded for more picks. Because that's how you win a trade on the internet these days trade away all your players bringing picks even though they're not even gonna play for your team weird stuff though. I don't know. I guess the celtics win this. Because they're getting off the kemba walker deal and there's honestly too much duplication on that roster. Your best player is jason tatum. He needs the ball. Your second best player is jalen brown. You want him to have the ball. Marcus smart is there. He's a guy who could have the ball. You don't necessarily need a kemba walker. Meanwhile you need somebody big in the middle personally. I think moses brown is probably going to be a bit player in this league. Bovin mariana bitch. Were you throw them in the perfect match up and he can go out there and dominate four year. Probably not a longtime starting caliber big. But i think that that's robert williams for the celtics and he there. There's a lot more responsibility for him to be the guy right now. You've got a little bit of a tutor. There i suppose in al horford if he sticks around for a little bit and maybe sweet. Moses is a nice pickup but for for kemba walker man like. I just feel bad for this guy. He went from charlotte. Where like finally is going gonna be able to play for a contending team here and then. His coach becomes the gm and immediately ships out. Not a great. Look if you're kemba walker fan here. He's basically being salary dumped after his worst two seasons in the league. So i don't know he's got an opportunity i guess in o'casey if they keep him around to improve his trade value coming next season because can walk. We don't need to be the point guard rehabilitation like that's a very weird thing. You just go there. You have the ball in your hands a lot. You get to pass it to say he makes you look good and then you go play for another team odd stuff agenda from the tumbleweed capital of the. Yeah but that's likely the conversation you're right. That's right kemba walker. We're going to have like. Hey man come in here kill it for a couple of months you know. Tested knee get get up to twenty points per whatever it is. And then we'll flip to the knicks man will flip you to a big market. That's gonna talk themselves into like. Yeah kemba is back and looks good. And we'll get another pick or another young prospect and you'll go to a situation where you can maybe a be playing in a playoff series and leading a team or being a second or third star team. Yeah that's that's basically exactly how they hope it's going to go. You're right task. There's a risk there in that kemba could be injured again and not play doh. They had horford and they were like hey injured. He's like no. I'm fine now. i think you're i think you shouldn't play. We might be moving. We don't watch it again injured so just go home. I'll take those big beautiful eyes and just go home because he didn't even play for. What was it like twenty games finally. Yeah something like so. It's wild down there we got prestige in this year's draft. The thunder have three first round picks. I think i have this right. 'cause yeah they're going to find out where there's falls in tuesday's draft lottery. They have the fourth best. Odds are tied for the fourth. Best odds so they're gonna have a high pick and then they've got now this sixteenth pick from boston and they've got the eighteenth pick overall from the miami heat. So there's there's three there some people are saying. Oh maybe they're up to something task. Maybe they're gonna sure pactel's deal and try and get an actual player in there to go with. Sgi and go with door and go with the team they have. It's possible but it's drafts them. All i think yeah well the the celtics were able to to move up and get jason or moved down. I should say and get jason tatum for markelle foltz rights they. They're able to trade the three for the one essentially with some sweetener. Maybe these thinking the same thing want four. Throw in a sixteen that we just got. She's a beauty and get the player that they want it to. Or whatever i i assume. That is the plan. I also don't know how deep this draft is as saint prestige mature. Does it's supposedly deep even after kate top five or six. They say they say is ever bless you heard. It wasn't a deep draft and ended up just making stuff up. But i'm not super worried about the salary cap because i don't think anybody on okay is even passed their rookie contract at this point. Like you can afford to spend a ton of money on campbell. Walk if you're only spending money on kemba walker everybody else's bargain-basement contracts to be quite honest and that's the way that the thunder wanted if kemba walker starts playing too well he will pick up a mysterious injury probably or he'll be moved very quickly one or the other. Stop helping us win. Get out of here. We need some more picks fascinating. It's amazing it's weird to have a trade like this lee not only just before we actually recorded the podcast but In the playoffs. Strange you forget. Sometimes that trades can happen when the when the other teams that are out of it. You know they can go to work. They can get on the on the on the phones and and make a deal here. It's just a. I don't know i'm sure it's happened before. I just can't remember off my head over the last couple years. A trade like with significant names. I guess being moved here in the middle of the playoffs in the second round. So it's a little bit al horford. The he opted out of his contract there in boston as well and sign with philadelphia. I wonder how he'll be received by the celtics fans. Because i think i wouldn't appreciate and going to sign with an enemy like philadelphia but you know what it's a few years ago now ever on loves al i want. No one really doesn't dislike album. Look i think he can still be sort of guy though who's you'd be a serviceable guys. You know whether or not he may be potentially plays backup to someone and just ben. He's thirty four. But i think you're going to get a solid reliable veteran adam. He's not gonna pat. He's not the sort of guys like you know. If you're not playing me one ad fear. I think he can still be a good team player. So you know maybe the celtics can still get something out of him. Yeah i mean. If paul millsap can contribute here and there and edinburgh elsie. Why offer especially defensively. It's it's to chip in. i'm with you. I don't want them to be my starting center at this point of his career but backup. Hey absolutely jeff. Teague was getting playoff minutes playoffs somebody give maury caroline and see what he's up to. What do you think about this year skates. Be if you're shakeel just alexander and you see your general manager. Keep trading guys for first round picks. I'd be kinda shook. I've seen this a couple of times in the stream team should shit. You'll just alexander be worried here. Had chris paul alongside them egan al horford around side alongside him. Egon we're all kind of expecting kemba walker to be the next former all star. Who's there and then is not there. Isn't that a weird message to be sending to your so-called star well. I hope they've had the conversation. I guess and the front office. I'm thinking like the a ten year gap in your best players right when you are trying to build something. So they're doing this weird thing where we're trying to find another star by way of the draft of course that we compare with. Usda like we're trying to find you. Whatever the jd your pippen or the pimping dear nj in terms of just having a fearsome twosome. They're basically basically like a jaylen and jayson sort of situation. They're just trying to find that it's weird. Yeah it's got to be a little strange. But i don't know solely back so chill. I don't think he ultimately cares right now if he gets a second star with them. That's the on that you can come up with then. I think he's going to be happy. You're a great point by the stream team. It's happened time and time again here in a very short career. J just making his way over to o'casey on law well. He went from the clippers. Though see his okay. See teams changed. Just like that so yeah. He hasn't really found solid footing yet but he is the cornerstone there. And i know he's at the at the worst. He looks like your number two. And like you're saying maybe they get that number one and it's all gravy and san prestige plan works out perfectly or maybe they draft the guy who gets injured in his very first season and straight. You'll just alexander's were bad again. How many times can i play for a bad bad. see the best players traded. Yeah that's a good point by sepe because we see young players taking control of their destiny heck of a lot sooner. We see the blow up going around luka doncic. They're trying to please him just after three years of his career we see. What's the story from. The athletic about zion williamson. He's two years into his career family around him unhappy. You know that there are making moves. Like trading drew holiday for eric. Bledsoe those kinds of moves where they're trading draft picks. And i get. The idea was impressive. Trae brings up a good point that they're only paying kemba walker the next couple of years. They have to get to a salary floor anyways as per the nba rules. You can't just pay five dollars for your free roster but at the same time. I guess. I'm just optimal i just want good team there. So i'm just thinking you know you kinda handcuff yourself in your two of this deal baby. There's somebody that you know you're able to get via trade. That's a star like. Somehow the rockets were able to nab james harden from you. And you don't wanna pay a guy but they're probably going to draft in san prestige going gonna take the The old trust the process route and see where we go for years on years on years. This does not help my bet with you though. Tk from being honest are sgi will be an all star within two years which we made basically two seasons ago. At this point. I have one more season for us to reach that all star status with our bet that we made again a couple of years ago but if it comes in and steals a little bit of the spotlight it's still some points from a guy that's gonna to hurt his chances though then again. Maybe helps the team win some games. And you know you're mix around the the all star break. It's going to be a fascinating watch. That only you and i care about at this point. I think we've got eleven hundred and fifty four people like investment team right now. They're gonna care as well come february of next season when shade. You'll just alexander will not be named in all feeling good about this once gates. I felt good when we made the deal. And the funder of just gotten worse and worse since then despite the fact that shea. He's an all star caliber player. He could certainly make. But i don't know if the team's success is going to be there. Can i ask is the trade cancelled if they change the all-star format like if it's usa versus the world chez gilles us. I was only making the all star team. They probably won't does he. So top twelve international player. A guard top six guard. I would border scars tough. It's not a lot of a monstrous guard. you get a nickel. Mary in a rising stars game pretty easily. When you're he's probably because of the guards you're right. There's just not a ton of international kurtz okay. That's what i'm praying for this silver to change the all star game into a into international versus team. Usa my final thought on this just tweeted it for we jumped on. Is this the most handsome trade in nba history Kemba walker and that beautiful smile in exchange for al horford and those gorgeous is now someone came right back at me immediately. It was like kelly. Oubre junior was traded for ricky last year. That's a good one good restore just noticed. Top five lists the most handsome trade. I think rubio. He's handsome but i don't think he can touch camera now. Agree i agree. I look for these. He's elite and kemba kemba smile. Lots of room It's gotta be this for sure. Gotta kill you break if you like. He's got his niche people. really like that style. Is he handsome more stylish. I'm not sure. I will say stylish enhance all kelly. I think uber and rubio in blow blowout personally. Very subjective course handsome okay. Let's remember dream team and if you can think of another one by the end of this show by all means. Drop it in the street team. They're a handsome trade. It's got both players both key players have to be above average in the get traded already signed. And let's not go down this rabbit hole. Let's let the stream we again. We gotta get to all these head coaching vacancies. And we got a game to talk about. So we had the southern lawyer set us up for the kimball horford trade well let's have zaza up for this one Oh my goodness good stuff. Jd yes the bucks bounced back to beat the nets last night. One four eighty nine and they force a game seven saturday. I love it. i love a night. We can game seven. I don't like during the day. It ruins everything for me but You know let's talk about the game and moving ahead to game seven and we can make predictions and all that but what did you think about the bucks. Pretty dominant performance. At least at least when the nets made runs the bucks always had an answer for sure. It's nice to hear from the george and lawyer the southern lawyer and then the georgia and lawyers a lawyer from georgia so much anyway. Let's start this off. By saying reggie miller was right. Reggie miller hinted that kevin durant and james harden should sit game six. Because they're not gonna win. Rest them for game. Seven boat reggie. Everyone owes you a huge apology on the internet. They i say that because the home team has now won every game in the series and it was. it's key. Yeah the bucks. Were able to hold off the nets but they won the hustle. Points in this across the board offensive rebounds. Second chance points huge in the fast break category. Both teams didn't shoot well from three. It was it was potentially. I don't want to jinx it but it's like one of those ugly game seven but it was in a game six variety. I mean guys ended up finding their shot. No disrespect criminals. Get you in a second but it was. It was one of those games where there was some clanking going on. There was just it. Didn't look like the brooklyn nets. Incredible offense of that. They had all season long. They're just sort of out of sorts with james harder by kudos to the box and especially kris benson james christian middleton. I had to look that up because his thought is his first name chris. He's not he's not right anyways. His name is james christie milton back at thirty eight point night. I would have thought he got from the beginning. But he didn't hit field goal in the first quarter at all and if they lost this game it would have been one of those games. Chris middleton the first quarter. You've got to put your foot down. But chris middleton showed up in the second quarter and he did not stop and didn't even play the last four minutes of this game so Because it was blow and because there was garbage time so thirty eight points just had the flow going. They allowed a little too much space for. Chris middleton those offensive rebounds that they were getting it seemed like khris middleton was stopping every little momentum run the nets were getting as soon as they got. An offense rebound. Throw it out to chris. He was the only one hitting threes essentially for this bucks team he he was the only one who had a really good shooting night but yet this was doing his part and dunking and i think that the bucks did a better job of finding some at least a little bit of deterrence for kevin durant kevin durant still got thirty shot fifty percent in this game but i think they did a good job of guarding harden and then when whenever kevin durant got the ball james harden guy yannis was was ready to pop over and help out on kevin durant because we know james harden and can't drive and he played a little better but he can't drive so i think the bucks a little kudos to bud for for pushing yannis. Even though he wasn't the primarily primary defender. He was helping up so it was an ugly game. No doubt but the bucks got it done with only to bench points before crunch time it was just that somehow some way they got it done by hitting enough shots middleton set a career playoff with thirty points in this eleven sixteen from the floor is mad efficient five threes eleven of twelve at the line to tassie. Set it every time. The nets made a ten run. Be at during one third quarter stretch there and then there was another time early in the fourth quarter. It was always middleton. That had the answer. I mean he would hit the bucket or he would get to the line. I loved lead the two buckets late in the third quarter. From middleton about a minute left there was an offense rebound from tucker and then middleton just took sham it in the post. Two small hit the turnaround jumper over around the free throw line next possession like semi he just walked by joe harris. It was a brutal close out. On the side and then he just popped and stopped a baseline jumper that was big and then he ended that would that little weird buzzer beater at the end there so that was like that. Six middleton run but that was big and one night after. Paul george had. What we said was his best playoff game. Ever middleton had his best playoff game ever. that's as best you can go look it up. I mean in terms of mad efficiency and obviously in a must win game. He came through. And i was railing on this guy early in the series when he wasn't going to the line at all in the first two games two free throws combine those two games and now over the last four games. This guy is shut me up. And maybe shutting up. Some of the middleton haters. He's averaging thirty eight and five over the last four games so he is helping us out here in this series so he was awesome milton. Yeah you have to give him credit because he stunk in those first two games. I mean everyone did fa- milwaukee but he has responded and he's answered the bell and yeah i mean we thought the cato box victory would maybe heating the threes. Well as sort of toss alluded to they they went to a five outside of chris. Middleton i'm at seven thirty three on the north. That's usually like a recipe for disaster for milwaukee if they can't get that going but maybe bud it's taken up to the game. Six of the eastern conference semis. Maybe he's figuring that you know what tight rotation basically six playas janas didn't take a three last night jaanus in fact to me had some shack like sort of move and scores. He he bali jeff green on one where he just kind of like shoved him out the way and and had a little flow lab and then he had a big dunk shacklock dunk where he just jammed at through the rim. Like if anyone's going to try to stop this they're going to get hurt or i'm gonna get a failed as well and that sort of aggression is what we need from. Yes i think. All of his boss gets ruined. The paint last night going downhill attacking putting pressure on that interior defense. That's really lacking for the for the brooklyn nets and it works. Were i mean. This wasn't a lebron game. Six game in boston then. No one really is going to remember it. I mean you know. Milton was good but it wasn't that it was more just kind like they had to get it done like they did in game three in they did and they didn't shake at any point when the nets went on a couple of those run. So it's a fascinating situation. We're in now in game seven because after a performance like that you think that the the key for the bucks game seven i think is to keep doing what they're doing attacking the pint obviously if they can get the three points from middleton and from smaller goes. That'll help. But i think they can. See a blueprint for how they're going to put themselves in the best possible way here to win kevin. Her aunt had a quiet game after considering what we saw in game five. That was good gen. Todd was much better than you expect. He's going to feel better and better going into game seven. The nets are harm so they have certainly things in their favor. But budenholzer is in last chance saloon. And maybe just maybe they can they can drag this one out and get the victory because i think they can see a way to brooklyn but they have to be very disciplined with their offense. They can't they can't get sloppy and defensively. They just as well have to put as much pressure on kevin durant as possible and again. Also mike. James harden were test at that hamstring. Mike short is that. He's feeling at every time. Dan there that he any score he gets. He has to work hard for it because if they can slow down you know james harden and just make him to do all the work wall scoring at the other. End that That i think is the recipe for the bucks pulling off unlikely. Victory coach bud is in the last chance saloon ordering his final budweiser. Tk possibly a tear dropping in that. Beer come saturday night. But maybe not have they. Have they figured something out. They were sure as hell like more locked in defensively. They're switching everything. They got the whole whistle. I think that helps of course but yeah can they. Can they win this game. Seven like they can't write lutely. They can win this game. Seven seats i know you counted them out after they won game three. I know y'all kandhamal. After they lost game five. I never wavered. The bucks have been great. Milwaukee question will be covered. I'll have to go back and check a tape that one. Nobody said after game. Free the bucks. Have to be confident. Here they gotta win an ugly game and you're like now. They played terrible. The though that split terrible may still almost won the game. But they didn't but that's the thing the bucks defense needs to travel to brooklyn because they've done a great job against k. d. in milwaukee getting the home whistle thirty points on twenty eight shots in game three for kevin durant twenty eight on twenty five shots in game four and last night. Thirty two points on thirty shots if his shots are almost equal to his points. Then you're going to be feeling good if you're the bucks but that hasn't been the case unfortunately playing in playing in brooklyn. They've been great at home. However i gotta say the other guy who i think is getting unfairly dumped on this series when you look at the entirety of things as jaanus. This guy has been massive. The whole series thirty four and eleven in game one eight hundred and eleven in the blah and gain to an ugly one thirty three and fourteen thirty four and twelve thirty four and twelve thirty and seventeen. Everybody wanted him to guard. Kevin durant after game five. But he didn't guard kevin durant game six. So i guess jaanus has been fine here you just as bad at shooting free throws in everybody's looking forward to him failing. I fought him. Guarding harden was huge. Just kind of took the nets out of their flow their end the bucks made it really hard on kevin durant to get the shots that he was getting easily and knocking them down in game five. So yeah the the bucks can easily win game seven here. we've been talking about were they. Are they ever gonna hit twenty three pointers. Maybe maybe the nets do it though and game seven. That's the thing it's a total coin. Flip at this point. And that's why the nets have to be kicking themselves for not winning that game three. Yeah i mean. I guess both teams are upset. That somehow haven't won the series already. You're right nets game three and then the bucks multiple times. It looked like they could have actually won this series already but we got a game seven. That's what everybody wants. I wish i had time the kemba horford. Trade threw me for a loop this morning. Because i was actually planning to sit down and look at the last couple of game sevens in the post season like over the last couple of years and like were they close games because you know sometimes like game sevens can be overtimes in an nba game. Where you're like awesome. Here we go extra period and that's turned into a dud like one team just runs away with it in an overtime period or game sevens but the last couple. We've had some close game seven and i again. I meant to go and really check it. So maybe the team can help me out. There who clippers blow away from them light but it was a few minutes right but we've had some like there were. There was a good couple years there. Like some game. Seven duds where it was like. Just these massive blowouts. But i think you guys are right over the last couple of years. We've had some close ones. And i think that favors the nets. Not if it is a close game at home with kevin durant. Probably you're going to. You're going to likely bet on them a situation but who knows it. It's it's crazy that the that we even have a game seven in this series. It's been over a couple of times. Probably said on both sides but here. We are. And i'm excited saturday night. Lately you got a prediction for it. Well again the backing against kevin durant at home is tough. So i'm going to take the nets and because the bucks haven't been very impressive at times in In in brooklyn. I think the team deserves favorite car. Having not sure what. His status is But yeah tough. The back against the kevin durant game seven. I'll take the nets in that. I think this one's going to be blowout. I think think this one's gonna come down to the wire tasks what's your prediction. And and you know let's take it to the next level. Who would be an unlikely hero. In potential game seven we know katie is going to get his. And honest is gonna do is thing. It's thirty fifteen. It's bank that but who could be like an unsung hero here. Well yeah. i'm locking in on the nets. Get it done. The thing for the bucks is yeah. Yannis has been steady of the reason. They went and got drew. Holiday is because they know that. Chris middleton isn't isn't a rock-solid all star in the postseason so we saw his thirty eight point game here in game six. Can he come close to that in game seven and if not it's gotta be jrue holiday and he still has not had a good game even though he got up there to twenty one points in this game on eight of twenty-one shooting still act he's still just doesn't have it if he has the ability to get a whenever he wants and that is definitely why he's got a max contract there and he also has more opportunity now that budenholzer has short the rotation. They're they're just they're waiting for. We're all waiting for janice has done a really good job. But he is not a closer. If chris isn't going to be a thirty eight point guy which. How can you expect them to do that. You gotta expect drew holiday to do that. If you're the milwaukee bucks it's what you paid them for. But i expect the nets that come up when and whether james harden his better not youngest move on him it definitely better move because yeah. This is a great help defender. That's why he he doesn't take kevin durant. You don't want to dance and on them. But james are moving out there. So he helps out on. Kevin durant the guy who can get free. Those joe harris. When is he going to go off. I'll expect joe harris to go off at home somehow. Still hoping so. It's if you're a nets fan. You're hoping for joe harris to find his flow. If you're and you're hoping for jew holiday. Yes the third guy to help out but signed for the nets. That james harden got better. I don't know how you get healthier playing on an injured hamstring. I don't but is somehow got better from game five to game six so as you're going to be better saturday night. Exciting stuff skeets. I'm with you ni- saturday night. Abc yeah no three o'clock africa. Now get out of here we got. We got splash around in during the day in the hot here in atlanta the night game perfect. I love it as after. Tonight's games to some of you guys going down to the fortress for a game six pretty penny around here. Okay sorry so price. You priced out the hard cores. I'm i'm sure they'll be packed. I'm sure they'll be packed. They could have had a few more diehards in the standing room. Only yeah there's lots of those concourses pack them in their land. Lots of standing room trade. You wanna make a prediction. I know it's very difficult but you know the same questions that i just threw a task. Who do you got winning this thing on saturday night and like who could be or or what's the key. I guess to watching this scheme. That's seven for me was the pick and it's still going to be the pack because when it comes down to it they do have kevin durant there have been multiple times in this series in milwaukee where it felt like kevin durant was coming for the bucks and he was gonna take over and that was going to be the game kind of felt like that last night but jaanus he doesn't get the credit as a closer despite the fact he scored seven during a huge fourteen. To zero run had that big dunk with about six minutes left and that ended the game. Unfortunately for yarmouth. I feel like a lot of times when he's the closer burying team and putting them down by twenty. You're like okay. That's the game but not the same in the clutch. The nets have been much better. Obviously at home as a random guy. Who's gonna get hot. How 'bout landry shamet. Somebody's gotta make some pointers in this game seven. I think he's made six through the first six games. Gimme six and game seven. I wonder if this is going to be a low scoring game seven fair. It's got that vibe to it which doesn't mean it will be an ugly game because those are sometimes very entertaining but you know. I hope it's close down the stretch. I guess i've got to stick with my bucks here. They vote if they win. Game seven one hundred dollars from task. So i'm really locked in on this game seven i'll give i'll flip that money around. Oh no it doesn't make sense. I was going to can help you. Guys get those tickets for game. Six and the hawks but unless you wanna fly potentially to philly for a game seven. We'll talk about it. Offline very exciting. Let's take our first break and then we'll get to ranking these available head. coaching positions. Today all business owners are busier than ever and because they are focused on managing and growing their business. The can always spend the time. They wish they could on recruiting. 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No dunks for fifteen percent off your annual membership all right with this week's news that rick carlisle has stepped down as head coach of the dallas mavericks and reports. That neither scott brooks with the wizards or stan van gundy with the pelicans will return. As his team's head coach we are now suddenly up to seven teams. Searching for sideline replacements could be eight after saturday night with coach. Bud like you guys said could be nine could be ten kabila seven head. Coaching vacancies right now. In alphabetical order are the blazers. The celtics the magic the mavericks pacers the pelicans and the wizard. So the question is lee. What's the most attractive. mba coaching job available. And we thought it'd be fun if you counted them down from least desirable head coaching job to the most desirable head coaching job. I know you sometimes struggle. What to countdowns going up and down to want you to count back to one to most desirable. What are you guys okay. Well i've got quite a bit. Actually sit back for the most important factor for me becoming successful coaches the talent. You have current steve nash. Very smart their first jobs or stack teams we know how for steve. Kerr and steve. Nash is in a good spot to do something similar. And i think we are likely to see very likely to see a female coach for the first time given so many openings and i think as a team wants to be that sort of historical team to name a female catches plenty of qualified candidates. So i think it is going to happen. But i think it's very crucial that whoever that is is on a team that has a legit chance or at least make the plus because if a is to join a team that's in rebuilt rebuild mode. It can so easily go badly and it'll be like well so women conquer i think that's all my slide gonna be given and it's very tough even on a rebuilding team owners. James fans everyone's impatient. Nobody wants to hear. Hey we're like going to be good in three years time for you so you haven't got even if it is your first time even if it's an honor he says there's some what's on your four year contract doesn't always mean anything really so anyway. I took into camp. What i believe is short term success and term success. I looked at cap. Space draft picks and historical free agency appeal. Wow look at this his homework there on a happy hour. This guy at all four cap space used basketball reference lottery. Odds tanka athena. Okay so. I know some of these. Things vary a little bit material. Well it just painting for one of these job getting the mavericks front office shorts short you can navigate. I'm not saying yes. But i'm also not saying but anyway i just just in case someone is saying. Oh this side it. Has this or this or these are the two that are used a number seven. I it's the orlando magic here. The pros fairly clean clap cap sheet right now. No grotesque contracts on this intriguing talent window. Cada agyei hampton. cole anthony. I think actually was quite good for them but no absolutely must keeps. I think anyone could be hat on that roster right now they have to. First round is coming in from the bulls won this season wanting twenty-three protected but still you know potentially i think as high as four for one of those and another one from the nuggets coming in twenty twenty five so this this draft capital there that have a fourteen percent chance the number one pick this season and if at the number one pick three times in the past and have gotten it right pretty much every time chris webber shack and what howard committed bright nantel ram one hundred million for next season so in theory they have enough to make a decent free agent signing. Maybe not a max their k. So that's the pros and cons highest paid player next season. He's gary harris. Jonathan isaac gary harris twenty million than jonathan isaac at seventeen monkey fool to sixty million and is is all they longest commitment for years. Seventy million dollar deal starting next season. Just no real star on that roster. There's no one that you'll like great. This guy is is definitely going to make the franchise move. No one like that. Not a free agency destination. Either their biggest names have been tracy mcgrady and grant hill twenty years ago. Almost go. tim duncan but they didn't after that you've got a rashad lewis and maybe a turkoglu so you know orlando's not really on the right. I would say that. So whoever takes over you've got a ton of work to do from. The start team made the playoffs. The last couple of years but they didn't dislike season but prior to that waning a couple of games but not expectations. At least within orlando magic. Do but again as signed before fans of bean like waiting since the doid. How try for something to china and so this is your coming inside. Can you be patient for another threes like Anyway i just don't think it's a. It's a hot spot number. Six indiana pacers the pros already. Some real talented barinas lavar miles. Turn brogden all of these guys under contract to for at least two more seasons and have been together for a couple of seasons except for the vote of course already. I think there's an identity a familiarity with that team. No one has an awful contract so they can move someone. This is obviously an all-star all nba player. They don't have room for max contract but that's okay. Because of the the plight got they got a few second round picks coming in the next few years but nothing major. I think are better team than this season ended as well i think though some chaos they we were injured left and right they it so i think they are actually better than what we saw from them. The comes look. They're a good solid team. Work both hot. The hot at both ends the problem is they're not great at one thing and the not terrible at another. Let a legit contender right now. And i think last season they finished fourteenth and offense defense say basically gave us exactly what they scored their good. Just not that special According to tank thon. I have a one percent chance of getting the number one. Pick a desert telling me there's a chance and also they saw in malcolm brogdon when they got him away from the box but other than that not a not a huge free agent destination that so that's That's counting against him there but again. Not a terrible position should make the playoffs. So it's okay yes. I think that that's a good spot to go. If you want to be named coach of the year long thinking the pacers have a major bounceback season. i think sa- bonus played the most games anybody on their team this year and he missed ten games as their best player. Basically their entire starting lineup was out at some point during the season. So as long as you come in. You're a chill bro. And you don't piss off everybody in the locker room. You're almost guaranteed to have a better year. As long as you know injuries or sort of a normal level for the pacers. I'm high on this pacers job to in terms of it being desirable. I know nate. Bjorkman is the exception. But it feels like you're allowed couple years there to to get your footing. You already have a good team like you said you know. You're pretty established that squad if they if they don't decide to move off of turner which they could. I liked that show. I liked that job just in terms of like stability coach of the year. Possibility up suddenly to the fourth third. See maybe if it all goes right. But i get it. I mean there's a bunch of other good teams. that's the weird thing with all these vacancies. Is it like i mean. It's outside of the magic. These are all like playoff teams for the most part are in play in tournaments and stuff like that all these other jobs. That's the crazy part. These aren't a bunch of crappy teams Bunch of average to above average team. So it's a little weird. Well yes. that's what happens with the washington wizards coming in here. A number five is look the pros not many to be honest because they've got to really good players for now but i'm not convinced they will or should. Bill am westbrook for next season because look they both have won guaranteed year on their deals and then they have a player option for combined around eighty four million the following seasons. This season's incredible rally at the end was fine. It was impressive was awesome watching westbrook. Break the triple double record but in reality. It was nothing more than lipstick on a pig. They weren't close to contending they. They weren't really like maybe they can make some crazy run here like the we believe worries. It wasn't really that it was more just like wow. They look like trash. They kind of got it together. But i don't think long term. This is going to be the same. I think bill. He's gone whether or not he asked for it or not. Because i think it's time to move on. Now look at you mora. I think he looks. Okay thomas bryant. When he was playing he was going as well but again. No one there that you like. Man this is the go. I can shape in mold into like a superstar. the cons. They can't get the number one pick. They've got bird contract still p- not a free agent destination cap space anyway. This is the problem with bill and westbrook on your books taking up so much of your money right now. They can't actually go out and entice a free agent to come in. My a veteran free agent to surround goes because they had taken up through much of their money they also sent a heavily protected. First rounder to houston in that deal for westbrook. So they've lost that they've got a few second round coming and going but nothing significant. So i sort of think that if you're gonna washington's like is this house is gonna look next season and even halfway through next season if they get off to a bad start westbrook's into his thirties. We know that some injury concerns and just sort of feel that. We're at that point again. Bills playing good soldier. He's saying he doesn't want to try it. He's not gonna move to go out of washington. But i think it's just a matter of time before that happens so if you were to take that today i think the team and roster could look really different This time next year or even halfway through next season so some uncertainty. That's why would have india above washington james harden situation in houston where a new coach comes in and suddenly. It's like oh you're star players like by one outta here it's like oh god now. What do we have that could happen. You could see it happening. Probably put i probably a bit harsh in indiana already looking at that but anyway we move on Portland now the reason i got the blazes here is because they already got a legit candidate. Mvp candidate and the all star talent in cj establish star in lillard. You know he's going to perform to certain level. Bring them to a certain level but it's almost like the washington situations. I think there's change coming. I'm not sure what it is likely to be. Cj before lillard. But i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that does move on at some point as well. It's not that he's gonna come out and say it. But i just think i think the blazes kind of like we've gone as far as we can with these two guys he it now. The cons lillard. Is sean inside of these loyalty. But i just don't think he and cj there for for too much longer. I think they just have to move on. Because as good as they've been making the playoffs lewis been great nice blasted then not legit title contender right now. They need to change you. Know and a similar with the wizards with lillard and cj's contracts taking up so much cap spice. I just go out there and get that big name. That third big nine. That could maybe take them to that. Next level norm pal likely to get a decent extension this summer. I think he probably stays in portland. Maybe maybe not but No pal is not that big wheel that really need their their first round. Pick also go to houston this season from the covington deal last season. So everybody's first round pick goes the houston exactly right. I saw guardian and the sixers were to lose tonight down at the fortress with guys maybe in attendance. Are we gonna see a mccollum for simmons type of trade tasks or beal for simmons temperature. Is that gonna come right back into the news cycle and is there any possibility that like a trade like that could could help both teams in regards to the sixers getting a score. An actual guard perimeter player. That can score a bucket late to pair with and beat and a defensive minded. I like simmons pairing with if i look at portland. Hiller is there have you taken this so the trade machine has got some prospects something that could help both teams that would need to they need to do with a little bit of a shake-up switch up what they're doing. So absolutely that's that's that's a good one. The blazers yeah high on the priority list defense but but high but they gotta make an even higher priority than last year. Because they tried last year with robert cummington derek jones junior now i think yousef merkich host domino to fall to be a little bit more of a quick defensive team. That's that's probably the most important thing you can pick off and you can. You can pick off guards and get into the middle and they're slow but i see what you're saying. Yeah but i mean the sixers. Most definitely they are they have. Daryl has to make a big move like that. I think can call him daryl morey by justice first name. I think i think it's been over to bias. Even though tobias would probably i picked to move. But you're gonna get contract return for bentsen. I would think yeah. Okay lee love it. Keeps going okay number up yet. The boston celtics now look too young stars locked up. Long-term the celtics is no way. They're moving jason tatum. I think it's incredibly unlikely that i moved brand is being some whispers about that. I think that's gonna happen. They sort of changed a little bit this morning. Because i said they periphery. Pieces like campbell. Wocka he doesn't want to be. There is up for grabs. We know that that has now happened. So he is He's gone and as far as draft picks that they don't have any problems as far as losing their first so They of course they gave up the sixteenth. Pick for this deal but other than that. That's not the sixteenth peak is fine. You can leave with that the cons for the celtics now not change a little bit. Because i said they had no real cap space for next season. That probably doesn't change alcohol. Hoffitz contract was probably not too far off campus. Tenuous save so. They did make a little bit of room there So listen overall. It comes back to my first point. The talent you've got to who all stars this year should have been tied. Him should have been an all. Nba players while jaylen brown. That he's best could also find his way onto that. I think brown could be an all defensive player so you got two young stars like that. I think that's an attractive position to be. Because that's what you want that's ultimately what it comes down to. There's no question about the ability and the talent those guys have it's just nast- surrounding base. I think marcus smart could be had for something as well. I like him. But it's one of those things it's like. Maybe it's just trying to mixing up a little bit. So i think the boston Job is pretty attractive number two. I'm done with the pelicans. And there's a. There's a lot of reasons for this. One a legit franchise altering star entering his third season. He's young to be coached and molded. This sort of varies a bit from damian. Lillard who not diamond little is uncomfortable by any means but it's just hot to coach go. I later in his career who so. Well established zion. Isn't that just yet. Some concerns about his long term future. We saw the report coming out of new orleans this week. But the thing is new orleans still earns his contract for the next three seasons. No matter what happens so this time he had to get it right. They're not going to try to. They're not going to say okay. It's it's it's time to blow up the deal and tried him for the stuff we can get. Now they're going to have zion williamson for three more seasons brandon ingram. He's been fantastic. In his couple of seasons in new orleans and i think some lake jackson hayes has potential. I think alexander walk has potential so this talent there but this is also where it really helps. They've got so many first round picks and swaps coming in the next few years from the lakers. And the bucks believe. It's four outright. I and three first round pick swaps with those teams. They also have a ton of cap space for next season. Because i am still under his rookie contract ingram's He signed a long term deal. And maybe they do get lonzo ball back but they've got enough room to move around so david griffin has got a ton to work with here he just got to get it right and he has still got a little bit of time on he saw it he he he knows obviously ziona be entering his third season with these third different coach which is not ideal. But that's like you've still got a little bit of time on your side so the cons. A little bit chaotic which is never a good sign in city. We're not good coming enough. And as i mentioned this family's not happy basically with where the direction of this team is going. So hey get outta here stan. Gundy yeah which i you know. These young guys these generational superstars they have so much power. That if he if he or his team is family. Say we don't like this coach. I mean they're almost there. They're held over a barrel. They got okay. Then we got to get rid of them right same similar. Of course maybe happening in dallas. With luca saying i don't like this particular person in the front office or whatever like they have to bend to the whims of the start. You almost have to or they're going to be like well. I don't wanna play here. I don't care what my contract says. I don't care what max contract i signed. I'm not gonna be happy. I'm going to make life hell for everybody in. We're going to be in the news nonstop so you'll just have to trade me so anyway. Sorry i say as i say time is still in david griffin side for now. I think i think he's still got a little bit of time here to get things right again. Through these draft picks maybe through free if he gets if he niles next coaching. Someone really unlock zion's voted into the mvp conversation next year. And the pelicans style. Winning things can change very quickly. So that's why haven't it. Because i think you would. You would love to coach him in but the number one spot is don kitchen the mavericks because he's the best talent out there. He's young he's already said as well signaled that he's going to sign that rookie. Max extension despite what we've seen happen this week. Luka doncic is an mvp candidate we know what nobody can do in the playoffs. You can see how good he is. I think if you're a coaching you could pick you. Say i want the best player i can coach and i think he is the best player out there so on paper the mavericks having enticing roster porzingas is obviously the biggest sort of question mark. Is he good. Is he not good. He's had issues but maybe after full summer of working out a preseason working on so many of those things if he can live up to his potential then. I think you're in a really good spot there because he's a young player as well so there's plenty of room here for these two to grow. It's not time just yet. to sort. Of sever the four and move on from him but maybe if posing comes in fresh and healthy next season and he still perform to the level of an old style which we expect him to beat. So i think mark cuban. He's gonna do whatever he can. He realized the situation and now. There's a somewhat urgency there to get lucas and talent now mark. Cuban hasn't gone into the tax for a long time about a decade according to my last count Sports spot trek. Sorry you went into the luxury tax about one hundred fifty million for nine years so he has done that but he just hasn't done it since they won the championship. Maybe it's time for him to have to do something like that. He's got the money we know. He's got the big box so he can't do it the cons. Look they need. I think a big name. Free agency free agent some. I think they're probably gonna re signed tim. Hardaway junior have the cap space for. He sort of his earned that money because they owe in. This is still. They still have the knicks their first round. Pick this year and twenty twenty three. So you know they haven't the not going to be able to sort of get that high pick in the draft this season and mark. Cuban just doesn't really like the draft anyway he prefers free eight hundred. Bob lagaras just pick whoever you want. Exactly yeah picking australia. And it doesn't ultimately the reason i I go with lucas. I think he stopped. How overrides everything. Because i think he's the best player out there to be coached. You can argue. Lives better short but i just sort of feel. There's a little bit more uncertainty there in that portland future and i just feel like site with luke assigning already. I'm starting rookie mac extension. So there's not that you're not going into a situation where it's like. He's in that lame duck season where it's like. Maybe they could obviously signed into the qualifying offer anyway and he would be a restricted free agency following the fourth season. But the fact that he's basically said just give it to me. I'm gonna sign it. I didn't care is a good sign so for me. The mavericks is the most enticing job out there. this is interesting. You're going with luca in dallas and the zaylon in orleans as like the star players. The young players you'd want to buil- but you're also picking the two franchises. That have the most turmoil i think we can say in their front offices and with what's going on with the organization so it's like on one hand. Yeah you're right and you broke it down. You said no. I want to. If i'm a coach. I want a pair myself with talent and like you're picking basically like the best young guys you know lillard as the exception there and maybe the best player still the bunch but a little bit older. But man you're going into some some choppy waters tasks it potential shot. Yeah right yeah. Both situations both for sure i get released coming from. I want lease ranking of the seven franchises. Were he'd like to work with you. Ranked dallas as number one of all those like pure cities. Just the city's situation like the team. You got to work for the team. You know trajan langdon new orleans. You probably be working under him. Dallas mavericks. he's already got an. I feel like i would but you know what i want to live in california warriors. Okay smartphone aboard great job. That was awesome. Love you breaking that down you count down perfectly to from seven to one out of time but the hans fantastic. What did you make of his list. Is there one that he had in a weird spot to you or do you think about the most desirable mavericks at the number one spot for him. What do you think of his list while skates like we said. I've got pacers over wizards. But i'm not spending any more minutes talking about those teams with regards to this. But at the top of the list. I agree with lee despite the turmoil going on in the front office. And the kind of uncharted territory. That the mavericks are going to be going into here with questions at the top of the organization which hasn't been the case in over a decade. I still think he's the guy because you've got an mvp candidate and luca and established playoff team in the mavericks. Now just figuring out how to be the best version of the mavericks that you can be theoretically if you're coach. That's your dream right. Saying i got an mvp. I can build my team around. That does sound enticing. And i think you're taking. I think you're taking the mavericks blazers because the mavericks are earlier in their team building process right here whereas the blazers that feels like it's starting to fall apart and you could be losing the star at least with the mavericks. You've got the star. Also you're taking the mavericks over the pelicans caused the mavericks farther on in their builds. All i'll actually with lee. I would maybe bumped the blazers up to number two but i think the mavs number one just to circle back to what you said off the top there and i know you've got a fantastic breaking t shirt on his well bet on women. I saw a bet going around that the odds on a woman being named head coach for this offseason to the start of next season. Let's say game one plus two hundred. No excuse me plus two hundred yes actually. The odds are in favor of there. Not being a female head coach by the start of next season with all these openings with all these names like lawson and whether spoon and becky in and even more exactly. I thought that was what was fascinating. Look in long and hard at that one that plus two hundred for for yes. There will be female head coach mean by the start of next season. But do you think there will be if you will. Yeah i think that will be one. I actually think dave griffin might be might be the first one there to do it because witherspoon has been in the front office for a while. there's a female. Earner their name has escaped me right now. That's the one gale benson. Yeah so and again. I don't think it's tokenism. I don't think david griffin's like i just want to be the guy who is a female coach. I think he believes that with witherspoon spring coach that team relationship apparently with exactly he's worked. He's worked closely with her. And so i'm becky. Hammon is probably the favorite given that. She's being with the spurs as an assistant for so long. But who knows who knows if one of those other teams. We'll take the plunge but i think it's great published says basketball is basketball and that's the thing about it is if you are smart person you understand head. Coaching communicate man. Woman doesn't really matter as long as you're getting the results. So i just did say about it man. Let's yeah yeah. This is like at the roulette table. Just we'll just throw it all down. Plus it's so. I i think especially when we have so many openings as well and the other openings look technically. The atlanta hawks is open. I think might mcmillan's gonna get one question. Quinn's not if i lose to not think he's putting their seven seasons. I don't think he's going anywhere. I mean look at the jazz in the playoffs off. They have a pretty good built in excuse. Especially if conley and mitchell don't play tonight they're like last season. What about the season. Before against the rockets to i mean second best player you can see i contract situation is i don't know if he's up. I don't know if his salary is. His deal is upper with that. But look i think he's a good coach but i think if they blow this from a two zero lead especially with hawaii out fairly new owner as well. I'm thinking right away it's gonna coach. Derek looks right in there. Maybe they'll just have tricks app or website coach. The team just do it but doing it. In dallas with bubble garris. Coaching it with With a is happening. And all the the lineup information. I think milwaukee probably jumps to the the number one spot of this list when also done dallas is definitely attractive. But at the same time if you're coach looking at that spot and you hear all this stuff about people in the front office dictating your lineups telling you how how. Things should be played on the floor. I think there's some hesitancy. But luke probably overrides that but i think milwaukee's going to sneak in at the number one spot because i think we're sitting here at the end of the bubble saying Buds jobs online. But it's jobs online buds jobs online after they got bounce the heat they gave him one more chance. But i don't see it going past game seven if they lose. I just don't see that. But then just go watch teresa weatherspoon inspirational segment if you if you're looking for if you're looking for a little inspiration this weekend. Pelicans assistant head coach. she's the best. she's awesome she's really really good. Hopefully hopefully we are betting on women. Very least one two three. There should be options for for next season. I mean what are we. What are we waiting for here. We'll just do it other news hornets rookie of the year. Lamelo ball and wolves guard anthony. Edwards were unanimously selected to the nba all rookie first team on thursday. Both rooks received votes on all ninety nine ballots from global panel of sports writer and broadcasters. Why is this one out of ninety nine. Usually hundred this one person forgotten amid this joining edwards on the all rookie first team kings carteris halliburton pistons forward. Cdc bay and rockford jay. Sean tait all rookie second team. Knicks guard emmanuel quickly. Grizzlies desmond bain piston center. Big beef isaiah stuart cavs guard forward. Isaiah coco and bulls forward. Patrick williams lawrence sneaks in there with a last second delivery just getting in there to the all rookie second team. We can make this pretty quick trae. i actually almost. I always forget that. They named all rookie second team. Just sort of funny when you think about it but you got show some love to the kids any surprises though trae or if you want biggest snub when it comes to this oh i think this is pretty solid though. The top. three rookies are on the i team. Yup lamelo edwards tires halliburton. I also think city bay probably the number four rookie during this class number. Five though kinda take your choice. Jason jason shaun tait. A solid choice could have been baying. Could have been stewart. Could have been quickly but got the top four right and one of the number five so all good by me you know. I love seeing the floors there on the second team spot. But if you're talking snubs gotta start with coal anthony. New last night tweeted. I ain't gonna lie. Y'all are mad disrespectful with three laughing faces. And then he pinned the tweet to see that really. Sticking to his guns pinning profile finished fourth in scoring seven and rebounds four assists pretty solid counting stats for rookie. Hit two buzzer beating game winners. Which could maybe be a record for a rookie at the very least solid case for him but he only played forty seven games. I'm sure that that's the argument against cole anthony. But he would be my number one snub. I suppose that's fair tasks. Any other snubs. The agree with the cool anthony. A you're upset about it. What do you think yeah. There's there's a lot of snuffs out there actually a surprising when we talked about this draft class before going into you know one really knowing if who the number one pick was after reading the replies to shamsher reina's announcement of this on twitter i realized. Oh yeah there's there's a lot of good rookies. I'll just fly through some of these replies. Here malachi flynn snub where the is precious chula. Yeah yeah i was just fun to see the ellum. Fao desmond over coal anthony. James wiseman snubbed. Tyrus maxi rubbers. jalen smith. Let's let's skip that one composite rob. Wpf payton pitcher up. I would say a lot of those guys. Those guys assaulted right. Mba potential there a lot of those guys and pressured composite of the oldie maxi wiseman of course wiseman a lot of potential coal anthony potential to be a star in this league a borderline star and a lot of solid players like chew and flynn came out of nowhere to be really solid but i think the guy who flew under the radar the most. And who's on that first team and called the fourth best rookie. Acidic bay guy was a baller this year for the pistons and kind of upstaged. Isaiah stuart and killian hayes. The guy is really really frigging good. He's set he set a lot of marx As a three point shooter at a four for rookie That's a very good skill to have in twenty twenty one he should. He's gonna have a long long career in this league. He can be really really good. No one really expected him to shoot the ball really well but yeah ten games at least five three pointers the most all time by a rookie set surpassing staff and iverson. So that's that's a great sign for the pistons and there are reports leelee that the mavericks were debating between city bay there and josh greene who ultimately selected at eighteen. Maybe vulgarity ultimately selected. The analytic said go with josh. Instead of city. I saw that coming out. I guess so that yesterday or today here anything to add to these teams. Well i think menu quickly. I think he hit the record for like ninety. Four of his first one hundred free throws he should be in the first thing that alone Listen if we're not going to get opoku or what do you do. Okay guys if you're actually that upset about the all rookie second team. You might have a problem. I thought we were sickos. Put you really gotta take a long hard look in the mirror. If you're that upset about this. But i do like when a guy like anthony uses it for inspiration. You gotta find anything right. And so the pin that tweet sure we'll come back with a vengeance. Nexia provable wrote about this. What about this from. Chris win at least five all rookie teams for skis for basically did tasks. Yeah okay. i'm going to do that. I'm coming back monday with a five over off. All right rookies. That's a fair number. I think yucca cobb who making a run here in the playoffs. Tell you to get on team number five. Okay denver cell he played. There were a lot of contributing rookies. You're you're not wrong you could. You could do it. This would be actually one season. Could because you couldn't do it a whole bunch of other seasons you would be hard pressed to get to your own rookie force team and actually have like guys it. Legit played and contributed but did feel like a lot already first. Name team chuma chewbacca. Kiki of the magic. He was hurt he would have been higher on this list. Aaron knee smith. That's a good name. I like smith with a knee in front of. Let's let's get to tweet overnight and we'll set up tonight's games and rapid fire but one final break to hear from our sponsors. 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Well this all right back with no dunks time for tweet in the night tweet over now. Wow what are we got pass while tweeted. The night is a fantastic reply to jr jackson of cbs. Sports question out there. Throw it out the question. You need honest. Gupo or simmons to hit a free throw to save your life. They both have been struggling. He asks who are you choosing. And that's when benn gore replied with the best reply giants. At least i'll have time to say goodbye to my friends and family. Obviously poking fun takes over ten seconds and it was incredible game six in milwaukee a section of brooklyn nets fans. Were loud enough to hear at the free throw line counting on the road in brooklyn the whole arena scout. There one two three always goes over and always goes over but to have it on. The road happened in everyone being able to hear it. It's good stuff that's skates. it's amazing hardens reaction last night at the line on that one in particular or the the set their from janas. 'cause it's not just when he gets the ball and it's the ten to twelve seconds with the dribble dribble and the hesitation and all that it's the pre free throw routine which is the backbreaker. I mean he refused the ball to like basically takes ten seconds to shoot an imaginary basketball. He's like trey kerby playing hoops with no ball rebounding from above the rim. I mean it's wild you together and you're looking at a whole lot of time. I think a stat news broke it down. He hit he took a seven. First quarter free throws and if you add up all the time that you honest like steps to the line doesn't get the ball but steps line does this little routine then gets shoots it. It added up to like three minutes thirty seconds because it takes that long. There's just that much time that he's sort of killing their. It's amazing that is a funny tweet. Funny reply that you at least get to say goodbye to your fans you can tell you can to do a whole lot. You go on little vacation with your fan for you ultimately perish. If if it's a greek fam- Using you have a lot of time to get in those double kisses just one kiss but yeah the hard thing at the free throw line was great because yannis went to the free throw line. The nets fans are chanting in milwaukee. They're counting their counting. How long gas taken after he got twelve or thirteen. I think they got a thirteen. And james aren't goes. Hey come on. That's thirteen seconds. So hard and his hearing the crowd and he and he realized that to the you can't count man. The crowd is counting. Why can't you count the same. They are counting. Maybe a little fast but the rest also don't want a camp attend saying it's not fun but yeah three and a half minutes was baseball hall. My god up trachsel of free throw line lee. Who are you choosing though you choosing janas or are you choosing simona take lifesaving free throw. I mean i've got. I've got a guy we'd see my on You doubt no. I'm not i'm not taking it taking for shrubs but the thing about the cmo and this allows on the text message with some friends in australia. The noughties like janas. Does this sort of thing where he lanes back. And that's that's awful similar age shouldn't be as bad as it is. It doesn't look as bad as yachts from. I want to talk on a selena. Janas wasn't fifteen or sixteen when he started playing. I think he can tell that. Someone's really tried to work and say listen. Just like mechanical allied. He's got to save your life at like up there. He misses li like while. You're vanishing while you're dying data. That's a great question that is a tough one Man they bullshit underhand. We all know it. Just try it out through your show. You guys have heard of josh. Giddy draft prospect from strategies. I've got intel. That he's worked with andrew gaze on his shooting. That may be what see my needs. Just go back to al grandfather of australia. Boscell andrew and you can lend. That's hoping they'd from this australian legend from this australian legend task. You're being humble. I thought you actually had tweeted tonight. Talking about yoenis at the free throw line. I got a good laugh out of it task. Tweeting jaanus late on every free. Throw making us tardy. Greeks proud flag emoji. Maybe maybe funnier to us here at no ducts. but of course agree insight into. I love it. I loved it. Where are we in this bad boy. Okay tonight's game six is here's the question i want for you guys because my buddy grits texted me. How many teams seventy getting are we. Getting three game sevens lead. That's the cue. I said no. We're not going to get one of course saturday night. We got two games sixers tonight. Are they both going to find their way into a game. Seven or will both of these series and tonight. What's what's your prediction man. The whole got back. The hawks from the fortress will be rockin down. It's not. I think the hawks close it out and honestly i think the clippers due to four man. That was a deflating loss for the for the jazz. I also think katha that. He's that don't have. Mitchell is clearly not one hundred percent either so the clippers. This is the sort of chance for them to make sleigh some demons from the past. I mean we've never seen this really before. So i take never. The conference finals the clippers. That wow they go and they were up against the rockets dockers coaching them and they blew that late both into not. I mean why not. We can get tickets. That's the big question we get tickets. Here how pricier failed rose. One seventy three a piece for standing room on but that's before taxes and fees taxes. Release even i have somewhat of standards united like and i but we'll see dirt because they they can draw If the resellers the like moving away only got a narrow two before game time so you not out of it yet so thinks they both end tonight the task you got a prediction. Text back to my buddy. Grisham is what i'm matt. I think we get one more but the reason. I'm a little reluctant to pull the trigger on a hawks ticket. Is i think the sixers bounce back. I think they're too good. I think they're too good. I wanna see a hawks win. But i i do believe in philly getting contributions from people outside of jaw and beat. It might be dumb joel but in carrying this team so much. And he's he's gas at the end of games. But i think ben simmons bounces back and i think they win but i do think the clippers take care of business at home. I think they're feeling it and yeah. I think it's the moralizing when your best player is banged up donovan mitchell clearly not right and obviously even if mike conley comes back yeah. We saw james harden his first game. Yeah i wouldn't be too to pump to to bet on those guys beating the clippers who are in such a good floor. Yeah my gut says the clippers do and they're series tonight to at home. I don't know what the hawks sixers trey got a prediction. If even if you do or do not find you. Down to the fortress tonight with steve kirby and town your dad stevie k. Coming in town pretty soon here. The stream team is mentioning that the hawks are wearing their. Mlk jerseys and i don't think they've lost and then yet this season so that's an advantage for the hawk. Pretty crazy right once. The pope got a hold of him. Jerseys were blessed and it's come through every single time man. I would love to be there. The lead to just be able to yell. 'to bias to take a shot in the second half here you're getting paid two hundred million dollars just the score baskets you need to score some baskets. If i were you skeets. I would text gresh back and say we're getting one more game seven and then don't say anything else just leave. It could be right either way. I think one of these teams is going to extend the series. I don't know which one sure i dunno. I would actually. I don't know i don't know. Are the jazz going to be as bad as they were again. Are the clippers gonna show up in the clutch under pressure again. I don't know. I think we're getting one more game seven but i'm too much of a softy to picture. Yeah i think you're right. I do think we'll get one more to go with the bucks. Nets game seven on saturday night. But good luck figuring out these series at this point. Hopefully they're close games. That's all we care about on friday night. Okay let's end this bad boy. That's a long drop podcasts. That's okay. It's friday with some rapid fire fun. I got the questions. Today's guys have the answers. It didn't take devon booker long to find a fan who went viral for yelling sons and four after beating the snot out of nuggets fan in denver. Booker tweeted monday. He was looking for the fan. And by thursday booker had tracked him down and he was offering him assigned jersey and tickets to a conference finals. Game again this guy be nuts by all accounts it was self defense and people around him agree to that fans there but it is still pretty wild so the question is your old dad's. When's time you have maybe rewarded bad behavior task. You go first every god damn day every single day. I've got one child yelping screaming while the other one is doing whatever she's doing Today the other one drop some raisins while the other one was screaming and the screamer picked up the raisins and just suck them back and so good for you. I'm not mad at that but also you're just yelling in our ears. So i didn't necessarily reward her behavior but i didn't rip those raisins out of remote so you know what i mean like i could have. I could've been upset. But i guess that's what kids do not not certain. I'm not positive. But just an insatiable appetite for yelling and screaming so every day. I mean this freshman in my brain but Kids man trade. What do you got for this I love that my kids are learning how to talk trash cousin. That's a that's a big part of competition is being able to trash around. Sit around the dinner table. Were making our picks for the basketball games of the night as we always do and the girls just loved to pick opposite of me so they can trash talk me but when i explained what trump talking trash is unlike you know just kind of teasing person like saying. Your team won't win so that's the only trash talk. They know they'll pick opposite of meet every single time just so they can say you're a team. Will we got to learn a second trash talk by. That's a good starter. Okay leeson question of course similar answer actually because the basketball hoop bats thought in my nine year old plays is some of the kids out in the street and i've heard him because in one of the books he reads. I think it's big night. He plays basketball and he talks trash. And so when he's out there playing he works on these trash talking. And i say to him listen. Track told me fine but you gotta make sure you're playing. I and winning. You can't pull crash anyway. And they play up to like they play twenty one but sometimes it's up to ten sometimes up to eight sometimes up to fourteen. They just make up a number of call. The twenty one. It's kind of weird anyway. He came in the other day and he said dad data. I want to talk trash and all this kind of like what did you say. And he goes just before. I hit my shot. I said how many letters are in your alphabet to his opponent and the guy did he didn't know what to do and he said you've only got twenty five cause you ain't got no d. And then i hit the game. I it. Didn't it didn't his big night. That's fine all right. There's a book about nate duncan. Actually we we he. He's got he can talk. Some trash. Trashy doesn't even have to talk trash. We're together when he was we're on that slippery slide and people were taking a little too long in front of him and he looked at his imaginary. Watch here your talking back danny. That is awesome. I didn't know if that was going to be a good question to ask you. Guys that worked perfectly all right next one Back the honest here and slow free throws. It's been a story for much of the play offs. It's sort of worn on viewers fans broadcasters even a little bit dora's last thing i think a little frustrated players of course notably getting frustrated there at the line with how long it took honest. Shoot those dan free throws so the question is a bit of a weird one. What's something you could do in the time. It takes the honest to shoot a free throw tasks. I can shave in under ten twelve thirteen seconds. Yeah i mean. I don't have a lot of surface area. But i can shave. My neck is what. I shave and twelve seconds. Now i gotta get a headstart. Because i just used shower water so i get out of the shower. No no shaving cream needed neck. Great hearted was trimming his beer at the free. Throw line tracing question. Fan should do that. You know like they used to have the stop watch counting. And obviously they're county but like they should pollster like trim their beards. Thank you do. that'd be very funny for me. You mentioned skates at took jaanus three minutes and thirty seconds to shoot all of his first. Quarter free throws. I think i could go from completely empty skillet to scrambled eggs in three minutes and thirty seconds. Butter heated up bubble at popular eggs in their sturm up high heat. We're going fast. Heavy kurds for these eggs. Three minutes thirty seconds. I think you can get it done from cold pan cold hot eggs in less than three minutes and thirty seconds. I think it's possible aspen curious. lee what are you. What are you doing in the time. It takes to shoot a free throw when i come back from doing the grocery shopping. Got a trunk full of all sorts of bags. I never make more than one up the stairs. I hide it. So i just pile everything on. But the speidel that white. I'm like in the world's strongest man competition they carry those things. I'm just like keith. Get out of the way. I'm coming up the stairs. I'm not stopping for anybody. So you got an. It's tough it gets those last ones the top and it will be close to ten seconds. But i think i get the just before the buzzer sound. So that's my that's my. That's my challenge to do final one here the nba draft lottery guy. It's on tuesday. Which means will soon know which team is in position to draft. Possibly oklahoma state star kate cunningham with the number one overall pick. He seems to be the consensus. But why wait until tuesday when we are going to do a happy hour during the draft lottery to tuesday usually do not thursday. But we're going to have some fun during the draft lottery tuesday night. We'll have more info on monday and early next week. But i just want you guys to tell me. We don't even need to watch it. Just call your shot. Who's gonna win next week's mba draft lottery tests. Gimme the orlando magic guy. While i believe. I believe in the magic number one Because i love cole anthony. I you know we talked about him. Potentially being star. I want a guy who can help co anthony. Just shift to that number to roll. I don't think he's going to be at least got a championship. You know we just got the potential to be a second guy. So they're not a free agency destination so this would help and smart points. They make a. They made a great trade getting rid of rich For the bulls draft pick. Which has turned into the eighth best odds. They have their own traffic. Which is the third best odds and traded. Probably the bill. You know the last possible moment that they could is value would have gone down next year. I think so Give me the magic okay. I believe you add altogether those two picks and i think they have almost almost a twenty percent chance that the number one pick sedation those to pick so they want before they could do it again. Tasha's magic trick. I just ran a single simulation. Tanka thon dot com and the chicago bulls got the number one all pick with just four point five percent chance you think i'm joking but it's completely factual they got a twenty percent chance of ending up in the top four which would be huge because then they keep that picture. They traded to the magic. So give me the bulls and raptors finishing in the top four. Okay over lead. Who's winning the draft lottery on tuesday. Night when we're doing a happy hour. I'm hoping it's the charlotte hornets. I would love them to get another dog. L. alongside lamelo ball. That would be awesome. So i'm pulling for them but try i. Did a simulation gets bulls finished number one number right and they usually finish it. Second yeah I just did one as well just for shits and giggles and okay see is winning the draft lottery on tuesday night. According to my simulation have a pretty good chance at me beginning at eleven point. Five percent odds the number one pick number two tasks. You'll love it that you're in ronald raptors. Oh got records number one back. Simulations did i gotta raptors number one. Wow routers in the draft to say. Hey look if you pretty cool if the wraps with the bulls. I guess there if we're doing a happy hour while we're just got another raptors. That'd be he's going to be the rap. Oh my goodness maybe. I should stop refreshing. This wasting all the good luck on the on the simulations all number one symbol larr raptors a gift for having to play in tampa all year. Thanks for doing. I don't know you really wanna go down there right here you go. We'll see. 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Hour 1: NBA Playoff Updates

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Hour 1: NBA Playoff Updates

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The use the rockets all intended purposes up one game to nothing on the Utah Jazz following a thirty two point win over them in game. One is expected to be the team that will be waiting for the Golden State Warriors. Once they finish this series against the Los Angeles Clippers there was opposed to be too. All. After beating them up in game one day walk but thirty one on the clippers and game two with a little bit over nineteen minutes left in a game. It was a full of Glinka closing. That the Los Angeles Clippers would return to the staple center down. Oh, two and this best of seven what's the cuff its first graph series? Then something happened something happened. And I got news for you. It wasn't just one person. It was a multitude of things that happened. But my God. Do we have our selves a series? There's just two games at this one one it returns to the staple center for games three and four Thursday night in this weekend. I think Sunday, and we get all of that. But the fact that the Los Angeles Clippers came back from the thirty one point deficit out Skoda raining defending two-time champion, Golden State Warriors seventy two to thirty seven in the last nineteen minutes at a game. Ladies and gentlemen. We've got a problem. And here's why we have a problem of the Golden State Warriors. You don't have a problem because they gave up thirty one point. You don't have a problem because they forgot how to defend or just chose not to you. Don't have a problem because they turn the ball over fourteen times in that Spain and twenty two times for the game. You know, have a problem because Steph curry exploded in the second quarter, then went dry when it can't it. You don't have a problem, even because the Marcus cousins appears to have torn his quad and maybe out for the remainder of the does this. I this very very very first playoff series of his career. And one and a half games in the Marcus cousins. In all likelihood will be out for the remainder of the place. We don't know that yet. We're waiting to hear the news. But Steve Kerr the head coach go to save warriors has informed us. It's pretty bad. And if it's pretty bad. Demarcus cousins ain't coming back for these playoffs from this. And as a result that could be a blow. But even that being said, then the biggest reason that the Golden State Warriors have something to worry about that ain't the biggest reasons that the Golden State Warriors appear to be a little bit of trouble. That ain't the reason that Steve kosher to had a sleepless night. Joe lak- Peter Guber to had asleep this night. But Marshall had a sleepless night Steve Kerr show that had to sleep with very threes. The reason, ladies and gentlemen. Is Kevin Durant? Kevin Durant is the reason. There. We have a problem, ladies and gentlemen. There's no way around this. Patrick beverley. Patrick beverley. The defensive ace against point guards in this league defensive ace against point guards for the lost Angeles Clippers that Patrick Beverley. Shutdown. Kevin Durant last night. Shutdown a guy about nine or ten inches taller. Universally recognized not only as one of the greatest players in the game. But one of the greatest players and out called questionably one of the greatest scores in NBA history that Patrick that. Kevin durant? And I'm talking about right now is being shut down by a dude and Patrick Beverley. That is being used just trying to validate that he belongs in a National Basketball Association. Patrick Beverley that God six feet one one hundred and eighty five pounds out of the university of Arkansas a second round pick forty second overall in two thousand nine NBA draft that is better spent as first five years playing in Houston alongside James harden. That is now a member of the Los Angeles Clippers. Who has never averaged more than twelve points in his career who spent this season averaging seven point six points per game. Only starting forty nine of the seventy eight games. He played this year that Patrick Beverley who bought away the twelve point thirty average last year with an only eleven games that he played due to injury. So essentially, it's really only been in the six lakes sixties in the league. Patrick beverley. Has shut down. Kevin durant? Now, just one game. Let's not lose perspective here. Kevin Durant is still one of the greatest players in the game. One of the greatest scores that we've ever seen matter of fact, I got you out from some unnamed hall of famers. I won't give you their names chewed me the hell out because I said that I would pick Kevin Durant above Larry Bird. As a small forward. But I got news for you that Dan prediction, look good today. Kevin Durant was held to eight attempted charts. Eight attempted shots that Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant was forced to commit nine turnovers laser gentlemen. Kevin Durant at sometime at so points. Didn't even look like he was interested in playing. Kevin durant? Fouled out. And this is after a game one performance where he ultimately was a jetted because him and Patrick Beverley Patrick Beverley coaxed him into a confrontation and Kevin Durant got himself objected. So you follow that up with a district performance that led to you getting a fouled out of the game this gentleman Patrick Beverley attempted as many shots. Kevin Durant last night. Patrick Beverley attempted as many shots as coming around. This. You can't make this up. Kevin durant? No question to take him in the post call for the ball and just turn around and shoot over him. There's no denying that. Both for some reason. Kevin Durant is allow Patrick Beverley to get inside his head back to back off the fouth. Kevin Durant said to all of us. I just wanna talk basketball. I just wanna play basketball. Oh, we talk about ball. Now, we talk about playing basketball. Now, I want to hear anything about Kevin Durant of free agency. I don't want to hear anything about where. Kevin Durant don't land. I don't want to hear anything about whether or not he stays. So he goes to go to lease. We'll go to state none of that's relevant. Now. What's relevant? Now is that the clippers have made this a series? They came back from a thirty one point deficit in the middle of the third quarter and won this game the other storylines to take from this one of them being. My god. Can we give more credit to Doc Rivers? I mean, do you not see the coaching job? This man has done. Who would think the put Patrick Beverley? Oh, Kevin Durant. Who would make the adjustments that doctor visits me you down? Thirty one points Montrose herald of these boys at the game effort effort effort, should who they got from the Sixers and topa and the bias habits trait hitting the key three pointer to win the game. Patrick Beverley defending and doing the things that he's doing. This is sensational stuff that you simply can't deny, ladies and gentlemen. This is something to behold, this is stuff that special. It can't be denied. And when you look at what's transpiring right now, Doc Rivers, I know booting hose, a one coach of the year because the the Milwaukee Bucks have had it's undeniable. But can somebody tell me when they've seen a better job done by coach? What Doc Rivers has done this year? Who's the star on this team? Lou Williams a score machine, by the way, who's the star? Who are these guys? Golly. Beverly? It's Lou Williams. Off the bench. It's an offense a score machine. If ever there was what I want to talk about six hundred a year. Ward is his I want to talk about six year. Well, it's his it belongs to him. Doc Rivers leading candidate coach of the year honors. What's the point of time? It was booting hozeal Malone and Denver Nate McMillan in Indiana who deserves consideration. What are you talking about that? Now, the only person that you could definitively talk about above Dhaka's booting Holzer because with the job that Doc Rivers has done. My god. What can you say? There is something special that has taken place before our eyes in Los Angeles. And it has absolutely positively nothing to do with the Los Angeles Lakers. It is all about the Los Angeles Clippers this is something special, ladies and gentlemen. It's simply cannot be denied at eight say ESPN inundate seven to nine three seven seven six, and you know, what that does to that takes us into uncomfortable territory as we talk about not just Kevin Durant. But all of these stars. You see so much has been made about the free agent class. That's expected to be available this summer guy, Kevin ramp guy. Klay Thompson, we got Kyrie Irving. We got a wild Linnet. We got Jimmy Butler. We got Kimball Walker. We got all of these guys all of these guys. These gentlemen, I got news for you. The only one amongst them. That's really showed up and showed out in the first game. Or two of these playoffs has been Jimmy Butler. When he dropped thirty six in game. One now understand that the Philadelphia seventy Sixers romped Brooklyn nets last night. I consider that an aberration, my personal opinion, my personal personal opinion. Is that listen that is just utter nonsense. I'm looking right now. At the Philadelphia seventy Sixers and how they played. Last night in their blowout victory over the Brooklyn nets. And I got news for you. This is going to be a series six is one one forty five one twenty three they were up by as many as thirty one themselves. They blew the nets out of the Wells Fargo center in Philadelphia means nothing to me. It's one game at a place. I want sorta Lakers lose by forty and game one of a finals and win the damn series. What game doesn't mean? Anything to me? I'm looking at the level of production from the bench. I'm looking at a guy like Mike Scott who had five or seven shots three or five from three point rates. I'm looking at maggiano's vich who had sixteen points off the bench eight to fourteen shooting really really nice cannot trust that to happen again in Brooklyn at the Barclay center against these nets would Atkinson coaching these teams with this squad being the rat. Pat punch that they all with Russell with Allen with Carol with Harris. With dinwiddie. And he's boys. I'm not counting. The nets out. I think this is potentially a seven game series because the Sixers wooded and six shore, but I could see going seven Ben Simmons had a triple double last night with sensation. The best way on the call for the Sixers where was he in game one the level of consistency that the Sixers lacks allows me lost twenty to thirty of their last thirty role games. Only three on the road against Boston. Last year lost that series to the Celtics lost eight or nine row games. When tied in the series lost eight of the last night. I wrote games when tied in the series. I can't definitively put the Sixers above that. I said it yesterday. I'll say it again Brett Brown. I'm not wishing for this. I like this man, and I respect them. But a Brett Brown does win that series. It's going to get fired. There may not happen. If he loses the Boston, the Milwaukee or Toronto. But if he loses the series to the Brooklyn nets, he's not gonna keep his job. I'll tell you what. No, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. So we look at the Philadelphia seventy Sixers and I'm looking at a Jimmy Bulloch last night. Three tenths seven points. No big deal. He showed up in game one yesterday was the time to get others involved. No big deal. But the point that I'm trying to make to you is what you think about the marquee free agents available this summer, you're not thinking about Jimmy Butler you thinking about kuwa- lost. Orlando you thinking about K D who let Patrick Beverley coax him in the back to back. Offensive fouls inside of forty seven seconds. You're looking at clay tops. Where was he decided to bleeding last night? Luckily, touch one top shooters of all time where was he stopped the bleeding last night. It can't all be Steph. Klay Thompson cashew to Klay towns. The big time shooter one a top five all time as far as I'm concerned six of eleven from the field. Just one of four from three point range seventeen points, not a bad day, but minus fifteen for the warriors when he was on a court last night. I'm just looking at. On paying attention. Then what I'm saying is. You look at these walkie guys. I got news for you. We've got to start asking ourselves a question who amongst these guys are worth two hundred million. Those who amongst these guys are worth being the face of the franchise. I'm not talking about all sorts all slows. I'm not talking about money play. I'm not talking about players that are big time players. I get that. I'm talking about making them the face of your franchise handed inputs on Bowland Kimber. Does a qualified. Nobody's looking to them for that. Those are secondary players all stars. But secondary players. But when you talk about stars the face of a franchise even claims secondary player you're talking about him being by secondary. I mean, extremely complementary. You're talking about those guys. But. Kevin durant? Kyrie Irvine co-piloted. Those are individuals vying to be the faces of a franchise. I have people asking me this morning. This is it possible. That the reason why Katie is having a problem is because he's got one foot in one foot out or Golden State. I don't know the answer to that damn question. I noticed much I trust K D enough to believe that in pursuit of a championship. He ain't thinking about oh, let me get the hell out of Golden State. He's thinking about winning sixteen games to win the championship. That's what he's thinking about. I'm not going to disrespect him by implying that winning is not his priority. I don't believe that about Kevin Durant. What I think it's far more sinister than that. Personally. I think the real problem with Kevin Durant. Is that a whole of fame pest, which is what one writer called Patrick Beverley has taken them out his game and guide into his head. I think Kevin Durant. If it were anybody else other than a mega star in the NBA, that's different. But if you're Kevin Durant. Think about this. Because I don't think it's going to happen. But just think about this nightmare scenario, but Kevin Durant for one second. The warriors somehow lose the series to the clippers which nobody thinks is going to happen, including me. And Kevin Durant continues to play this way. Or even if the warriors win it's because Steph curry and Klay Thompson come to the rescue and Draymond green and those boys. But Kevin Durant is nowhere to be found because Patrick Beverley took him out his game. You gotta remember you're gonna find too many people that love Patrick Beverley more than me. At brothers like a little brother to me. I've loved as me. And I love the fact that he's doing what he's doing. And he's in this league making a difference with himself and his team Patrick Beverley is a special kind of dude, I know on personally, and he's a special kind of do it. I got a lot of love for. But ain't no way in hell. He's supposed to be doing this to Kevin Durant. It is a blemish on the career of Kevin Durant. If he allows us to continue you can't be Kevin Durant and LeBron is home watching the playoffs and Kawai is in the Eastern Conference. He ain't playing for the San Antonio Spurs, and you going up against him in the players know, this is Patrick Beverley Patrick Beverley as supposed to be doing this to Kevin Durant. And as great of a defensive play as camp as Patrick Beverley is and he is great. Nobody is going to be talking about Patrick Beverley defense. They're going to be talking about. Kevin durant? Getting rattled. That's going to be the story line. He's got to change it. Now, not tomorrow not next week not next series rather. He got to change a next game and a game after that in a game. After that, you are Kevin freakin Durant. We've been having conversation about two being a best player on the planet earth. Now subtly that comes out the window. Because Kevin Durant is skinny and tall with Patrick Beverley be intended to shorter able to leverage and get under him causing problems. Couldn't do that to LeBron not that truck brought two hundred sixty pounds. This went work. A matter of fact. I don't think Doc Rivers will put Patrick Beverley on the Brown. Because the Bromwich is back them up to stroll. Got a problem, y'all. Kevin Iran's got a major major problem because here's the reality of the situation. You are if you the New York Knicks you've been so more, so pathetic. So perpetually bad. Of course, you'll be happy to get Kevin Durant. Who the hell are you to turn him down? Kevin Iran's one of the elite players on the planet. But you do it with apprehension if this man goes out with Patrick Beverley doing this to him because it will make you question. Whether or not he can handle being the face of a franchise one minute, you balking at the media another minute. You can't control yourself against Patrick Beverley. That doesn't speak. To fans as you being the face of a franchise who we give the ball to and say take us to the promised land. It just doesn't. Somebody has to tell Kevin Durant. That's all I'm doing it. Because I believe in them. I believe he's kind of superstar rebound from this. And will you rule rebound from this? But you damn well better it damn well better. It at eight say ESPN, it's inundates do not to be seven seven six. We'll get more into these playoffs. Plus, we'll talk about Russell Wilson becoming the highest paid quarterback in the National Football League. I think he deserves his money. But I don't think any quarterback deserves to be paid on an annual salary basis. More than Tom Brady. I just don't believe that period. But I'm happy for Russell Wilson. Even though I didn't like Instagram posts, which you and your wife. That's y'all business you need to be in your bed. How would you bedroom? You had us in your bed that we really really need to see that. I really don't think we need to see that privacy. My brother privacy. Okay. That's just me at eight say ESPN, it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six that was straight talk wireless nationwide. Coverage on America's largest most dependable four G LT networks, we'll be back with your calls and more than a minute. So don't touch that. 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First of all, please. Don't call me a big baller. I do understand this compliment. But as you know, a big bowl of these days or associated with a different kind of brand that I would like not to be associated with go ahead. Yeah. I know. I know I'm just talking point. I'm nervous San broke. Year two minute. That's when I'm nervous. I know what you're talking about. We all say, we all Sam go ahead, relax. Go ahead. You know, it's just the one she's been watching him. What he did you tremendous six eleven shooter. And and other than that. He's terrible on his personality is terrible. The only them arrive in New York, except one little thing goes wrong is not the guy for New York. Well, listen, I understand that argument. But let's not call them. Terrible. The man's a career at twenty seven point game score. He's one of the prolific scores. We've ever seen in NBA history. His skill set is unparalleled pretty much guy his size. The only thing that is lacking is wait if he had to wait of LeBron James LeBron James wouldn't even be in the same compensation as them as far as I'm concerned. It's just that LeBron James two hundred and sixty pounds, and Kevin Durant is not nearly that strong. So obviously, that's an inhibitor. But the bottom line is. And that's not the disrespect LeBron James by any stretch. And I swear I'm not gonna talk about him because he's on vacation. He's not in the playoffs. But I'm telling you that. Kevin Durant is big time. He's elite in every way imaginable. You not summarily dismiss the greatness of Kevin Durant. Everybody doesn't have those skills. The big knock against him at this particular moment in time is that he appears to be. A bit sensitive in order in terms of dealing with the media and some of the off court things that come along with being a marquee star in the NBA, and if that is problematic for you, New York ain't the place to be. He had a chance in Oklahoma to do it. All he had them down three to one. And he went and joined it's terrible. I thought it was nobody was decried more. So that mean, nobody spoke was adamantly against that. Then meet. So let's be clear about that. But the flip side to it is that listen at some point in time. We can't just talk about him. Just because Russell Westbrook is still there doesn't mean. Russell Westbrook gets a pass Oklahoma City now winning Russell Westbrook has been there for quite a long time. And Russell Westbrook was on the same team. With James harden? Russell Westbrook was on the same team with Serge Ibaka. Russell Westbrook was on the same team as Reggie Jackson, and Kevin Durant and had all of them at the same time at one time and still they never want to championship. So let's not just look at Kevin Durant. Russell westbrook. Last time. I checked is a phenomenal phenomenal talent and player on widely recognized as one of the great players in the NBA perennial. All star. A former league MVP is well Russ. Westbrook. Shouldn't get a pass. He is a lot more heart and Durant, though more. Two hundred twenty percents true. You know, what a lot more heart and a lot less efficiency. Kevin Durant shooting percentage. Are you kidding me decision? Make you kidding me. Not even the same stratosphere. Appreciate the call. Thank you. Chris you Stephen eight floors yours. Thanks good talking to you again, real quick. And what I saw last night. And I'm pretty sure he wants to gain from start to finish. Let's talk about the bad. I think that Kevin number nobody talks about what what happened with Kevin Durant last night as far as off all the files last night. That's not a good sign it they turned. They continue to turn the ball over. It's not what hurt him miss the clippers because clippers won't have enough sworn to overtake them. And I don't see them. I don't think anybody in the west beating this against whoever comes off the east, and there's talk about the good. So that's the bad. I I don't see them squandering another thirty one point lead to the clippers. But this talk about this talking about the good on the clippers size. Okay. This is what I'm here for the Lakers fan. I'm a Laker fan. But I believe that we'll get somebody dot would be able to get my coach of the year. I know some people's eyes. I mean, he's the only coach in in the playoff format right now. Without an all star, the other fifteen things have an all-star nobody talks about that. But that's fine. He rather have guys who can coach rather than one guy? The lean on kind of reminds me of Boston. Doc Rivers, right? All right. Yeah. But, but here's the one thing that I don't think it'd be escaped Chris, and I'm not applying this the Doc Rivers. Does Doc Rivers is just an exceptional coach once again proven why he is. And if anything that makes you look at a C P three a Blake Griffin. And makes you say to those guys what's up because you when y'all were together with de'andre, Jordan, y'all never got past the second round. And look at what Doc Rivers is doing devoid of that of star quad caliber talent. So to me, you look at the players that he had as opposed to him right now with the way that he's shown this ability to coach game basketball having said all of that. We do also have to ask ourselves this question. Most coaches probably like being in Doc Rivers situation, because when you're devoid of stars, particularly in a star studded Lee, you playing with house money because the expectations are minimal, and you could go out there and just ball and just coach but often and have your guys just ball, and you can distribute in share the basketball with a little bit of a, you know, you you, you know. Equality per se for lack of a better word because you're not worried about having the feed to stall the time. And I think you said I not just to answer that you take a bunch of guys who buy into what he is the bad that takes the bottom. Chris let me distract you for the second. Because I want to address a couple of things. First of all, I got two of my boys. One covers the NBA. My man vents. He's special dude. I love him like a brother. And of course, my brother, Mike hill that works for FOX. These brothers texted me talking about yo that's JCP off. They saw I know. I just don't like the song. I love Jay Z. And God knows I love beyond say their epic in every way. I just don't like that particular beat. I knew who it was. I don't like to be. I mean, I got to like every soul. I mean, I'm quite sure Jay Z, don't like some of my commentary. He ain't Shaab. I'll saying it. He's he's he's he's the godfather me these all world and beyond say is the Queen not. But love just that particular b. That moment. Other move me. That's all that's all. But Mike thence pre. She ate your love y'all, bro. Appreciate y'all. Love y'all looking out for your brother like that. But I knew I just don't have to out. I had to apple. I didn't like to be go ahead. Chris. I digress. Yes, sir. But anyways, I mean, I just didn't like what I saw from from Golden State, but they'll be fine long-term as things come out to east humble worried about but quick question for you. Stephen ain't nothing to do with what what's place last night. I final cover in the clippers for game three and game for or being staple center for either while gang. I will be there. I will be there this week if a gay four I'll catch you there. Yes, sir. Nope. God bless easy. Let's go to Ray you live Stephen talk to me. Even they are you doing taking my call, man. I'm good. What's up? Hey, man. Hey, man, I called you. But but then I'm less than a month ago, man, and my boys, and I'm gonna tell you my home. They had to kick your hanging up on then I was talking nonsense, but I called because I was asking about why the Daniela's don't get the respect. He's not ready. That is not why hung up on you don't lie because I would never hang up on somebody that says Damian Lillard doesn't get the respect he deserved Damian Lewis big time. David a little like a ball. Damian Lillard is far as I'm concerned, it's worthy of strong consideration to be first team all NBA this year because he's done more with less. I do not hang up on you. Because Damian Lillard I don't remember why. But I'm willing to bet. My check dam show wasn't because Damian Lillard it had to be something else. You said that I found to be idiotic nothing. But respect for you though, because I broke out the heart and angle. Wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Just for the purposes of of of of our relationship over the air. Why are you going to call up here? And try to try to insinuate that are hung up on you. Because Damian Lillard when in fact, you knew damn well, it was because the sun Nells. You kind of slick apologize. So your boys. Get here. You apologize. Ray? Ray in natural apologize right now. Stephen let me print so. Apologize. You try to be slick up around. Go ahead. Oh, here angled out trying to bring up with the irvington Westbrook angles in the fact that Damian Lillard always stuck with this narrative. He hasn't done it in the playoff. He hasn't done in the playoffs. You know? And my thing is without claims the top two best players in the maybe profit in the world. They Lillard has won more playoff series in Beaufort, hand whisper. Well, then don't get him. That's not that's not necessarily fair. Because if you're Russell Westbrook. You only spent the last two seasons without Kevin Durant. And in the case of James harden of you just got CPA three last year, and you went to the conference finals, but there were times before that James automated to the conference finals without CPA three matter of fact, one year, they beat C P three. So I'm not sure and Damian Lillard has never been to a conference finals and he's only gotten out of the first round twice. So I don't know if that's a fair comparison. I appreciate you wanting to give the love to Damian Lillard. I just don't think that's the way to do it. But between Lillard and Westbrook Deng give it up give it to Lilly. Stephen right now. The fact of you should be all NBA right ahead of still right? Go ahead. Go ahead. What? But here's the thing. I trust. They Milas decision making and shot making ability better than Russell Westbrook. What I don't dismiss from. Russell Westbrook is his ability to rebound and assist. And the fact that he's constantly an attack mode and how that galvanizes the troops around him. And I think that when you talk about the course of eighty two regular season games night in night out basis with so many relatively meaningless game. Even though Damian Lillard Billy misses any games. I don't think you can take away. What Russell Westbrook thing brings energy wise to the table in regard to that. And what he does defensively as well. Because I think he is more impactful defensively than Damian Lillard. But Damian Lillard is definitely a better shot maker and a better decision maker. And I think when crunch Tom arroz, our go to route of Damian Lillard, but over the course of eighty two games in the season, our go where Russell Westbrook. That's my thinking. I gotta run the Ray, I appreciate the call it at eight say ESPN editing, seven nine three seven seven six back with your calls and more to close our number one right here. It was Stephen eight years being radio is been those. Guess what you're in the middle of the Stephen Smith show podcast. Dammit made it. 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Kevin Durant is a franchise player for off the court antics the guy made a burner Twitter before he's always yelling right there star right there. What does the burner Twitter account have to do it? Anyway, even bring that up because how you gonna go off the court something completely about because because because because he wanted to. Because he wanted to know if you wanna talk about basketball in terms of how he's conducting himself on the basketball court why he's conducted himself in a way that affects what he does on the court. That's different this planning amunition to get to Kevin Durant about why to burn account grow up pick another subject or stay on. Kevin Durant about that. The central Don. Oh, my Lord. I I just don't I try to give y'all some airtime and how to act what are you ten? Grow the hell up. It ain't say ESPN is edited seven to nine three seven seven six people out there. 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Most Memorable Baseball Season?

Highly Questionable

23:07 min | 2 months ago

Most Memorable Baseball Season?

"Welcome to highly questionable. I'm katie nolan. That's made at times pablo tori. I feel like pink in a sea of blue today. You guys have the exact same color shirt on. Let's do show. We did not plan it. Just wanna be clear. And i first. You're going to settle on the amount of buttons so we can get started or no cake. Shohei ohtani having the most memorable season you've ever seen yes. Can i just say yes. And then we move onto the next person. he's incredible. he's a superstar. he's electric. He hit his fortieth homerun. A was it just like a little bloop of knowledge is a moonshot incredible home run. He also pitched nine innings which is a career high for him. Eight innings pitched eight innings. Which is a career high for him. He had eight strikeouts. he did really well. He pitched ninety pitches in sixty nine of them. Were strikes nice. That's pretty nice. That's pretty nice recycling. Just what are we doing. What saying toss out arena. Came with numbers prepared to argue. When i discuss baseball because stats in baseball now are like short stories. And you have to have with you. Sorry i came prepared. Shohei otani is incredible. I love him. It's wild to me that he's not a bigger star outside of baseball. And it's crazy because him and mike trout. Two guys who we've been able to have this conversation about. The face of baseball are both based in la and it's still like their famous in baseball. Well they're based in anaheim by the big part of the reason. Why but before we get to that i do also want to pay tribute to otani. Because what he's doing is so historic. It's almost hard to find a word to describe it other than historic is like the russell wes- rest triple double season. Mahomes coming out his first year in drunk fifty touchdowns like it's just so amazing. It's almost hard to put it in context. He has surpassed babe freaking ruth but my only concern is unlike ruth. He might not be in a position to win a lot of rings and that brings us back to the anaheim of it all. He is due for a big contract. Soon of angels have already given mega contracts to trout. Mike trout anthony rideau. And they're gonna pay otani. But i'm not sure this is a team. That's well run enough to get all the pieces around him. I mean it's a team that has literally never gone above the luxury tax. And that would be a shame because on top of all the amazing things otani has done this year. We want to see him plan october. Yeah i mean here's the thing about all of the superlatives you've guys have thrown out about shohei ohtani. I don't think it's enough. I'm actually offended by the use of relatives that you guys chose to deploy here. Because i don't think this is memorable. I think this is just flat out the best season we have ever seen. And i think that's where the comparisons which i get to westbrook or mahomes. They begin to fall apart a little bit. And it's just because we have never seen this in this way in which someone is playing. It's like patrick. Mahomes is also the best linebacker ray which is incomprehensible and so what he's doing by. Maybe winning the cy young and definitively winning the mvp league in homers. He is redefining. What it means to play baseball itself. And i'm sorry to like barry bonds you know but like you didn't get on the mound and so you can't get in the conversation with this dude for best season ever period point blank but whether angels come in on this level is kind of interesting because you're right about all of that. They are super mediocre. And it's a shame that they're wasting the spotlight so to speak. But i also don't know of any other team that was like less mediocre better. Run would actually use him in these ways. Because there's a. There's an element of recklessness. Like you have this guy who's so talented and you get them. Like plausibly injured every time in multiple ways. I don't know if a better wiser team would use them like this. And i'm glad the angels have them for that reason every team. He was in negotiations with on the west coast. We wanted to play said they would including a team that was all about to get him baited seattle. They would've used him the way he wanted and unreason. He decided not to play there. Even though it isn't objectively better city. I said good teams. Oh come on come on guys. Let's not do this today. Come on hey meena. Look back to camera all right. Let's make some eye contact to come on. No what's your reaction to katie. Dream on blaming steve. Kerr bob myers for the warriors. Break-up okay so draymond has a new show podcast. I feel like we just use words to mean all the words nowadays but he's got on bleacher report called chips. Yesterday we saw a preview for it which was basically just letting us know all the questions draymond was going to ask now. We have the clip and the answers. There was an argument. It was the way to everybody's steve. Kerr act like it didn't happen. Bob myers and tried to discipline. You think that that would put the mask over everything. I really felt like those such a big situation for us as a group the first time we went through something like that. We had to get that all out. We met the next morning and they said all right you slept on rate apologize and i told them right then and there. I said y'all about this up. I said the only person that can make this right is me and k. And there's nothing that you can do and y'all are going to this up. And in my opinion i think so too there. I want so badly to just take the truth that exists in that room and allow it to be the truth in order to be able to discuss the interesting wrinkle that this would add to things but i can't put feel like were missing big chunks of this story. Obviously they're talking about the fight in two thousand eighteen that draymond and k. d. had during that game and what i feel like i'm missing is the draymond mentions that he was spoken to by curren. Meyer for an hour and a half thinking. It was going to be a short meeting and ended up being an hour and a half and basically all we find out that they said tim during that meeting was that he had to apologize to k. d. Now i've been in our and a half long arguments and while yes you can just repeat the same thing over and over you tend to also say other things in so if you're gonna say that the meeting was an hour and a half long that they made you talk but then they say that all they told you to do to fix the situation was that you had to apologize. Decay d. and to sleep on it. Then where did you spend what how did that. That doesn't make sense. Look look on some level there is certainly a lot of nuance another. It seems very simple to me. Which is that bob. Myers and steve. Kerr realized that draymond green needed to apologize to kevin durant. Kevin durant at no point has disputed the fact that he did not like the way draymond green had originally treated him so the question that i have is. Why didn't draymond green apologize. Draymond green seems to say that it's because he was asked to apologize. I don't know that feels like something that maybe you could work out within yourself over the next several months because in reality what you didn't do over. Those months is apologize. So i understand that kevin durant and draymond green both are very eager to find someone else that is not draymond green or kevin durant to be culpable for why the modern dynasty that was the golden state warriors broke apart explosively in this gossip late in way and by the way love listening to these guys talk about their feelings however i may object to the logic of their retelling here. I just think someone you've to apologize and they did it and it's hard to blame someone else for that basic fact let the logic is very hard to follow if you literally just listen to. What they're saying doesn't really cook here like on one hand you have kevin durant complaining about management. Steve kerr by myers just moving on pretending like nothing happen then on the other hand you've got draymond green saying this should have just been handled between us like those two arguments. Do not make sense to gather to me. This feels like two guys who had a fight that want to still be friends. Don't want to acknowledge the fight common enemy which is a common strategy and i think we have all that at some point in our life and relationships the problem is what are these guys still works with that common enemy. That of awkward for him. Yeah i don't know i i. It's hard to analyze given the limited information we have but something doesn't quite add and look you can take issue with the way that like steve. Kerr handled it. You could say. Hey if i were a coach the way i would resolve conflict between two players is like this and you can still admit that you were the reason that the conflict happened with the other part of this at so unrelatable to me personally is that i just don't find it that hard to apologize like all apologize if someone bumps into me like i'm giving out apologies left and right the idea. That draymond can't do it because his boss agrees that he should probably say sorry. Yeah that's where. I'm clearly clearly not one of these guys. You are ten to fifteen minutes late every day and have never apologize i. It's very different. It's true. I was definitely i in the chair. Today's so that apology would be coming from a place of ben. I'm sorry. I accept your apology on my bath up next on. Hq katie. you know pablo's a great teammate. I understand what he brings to the table on the best at some things pablo's good at other things and then the internet just went nina cons. I'm the best. That is what we have done to do own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy. Visit geico dot com today. That's geiko dot black history. Always the podcast. Come check out the new black history. Always podcast with me. Clinton gates we at the undefeated telling stories that remind people who we are as a culture is a living breathing entity in all parts of american society. It's not just history books and social media y'all we contain multitudes. Everyone deserves to be heard. So listen follow unless a conversation this and follow black history always wherever you get your podcast time to play the game. That thinks the phrase dog days of summer is kind of unfair to dogs. Do you question you give us topics and events and we question them first question. In what way number like so mad actually no. They're linked the bad days of summer and they are do you question. Right now is andy. Dalton's time if you ever noticed the charlie. Our producer says things really quickly when he asked the question. It's because he cannot get a word in without the three of us just making jokes about things that will never air on television. Andy dalton. Qb one justin fields as back from that grain injury. But andy dalton is going to start this weekend in the preseason. He was asked about something relating to that. Here's what he had to say. The thing is there's so much excitement with justin. And i mean it's deservedly so he's a first round pick and the just with everything that's gone on here. I mean there's a lot of excitement with it But i didn't feel like there wasn't excitement for me like i said before. Justice is going to have his time on justin's going to have a great career but right now it's my time and so my focus is on being the best player. I can be for this team. And do everything i can to help us team win. Is he wrong. No it is time. He's qb one. I just said it. And i said it on tv. Which means that. it's the truth. Is it a thing i would have said. Probably not but we're different people. Maybe it is his time. maybe he'll impress you. The only person that can control. That is andy. Dalton or andrew santino if he decides that he wants to pretend to be a football quarterback and go in and play because he could definitely get away with it and nobody would notice. I mean what did we want andy dalton to say exactly what. That's what i think about when this question comes up. Because he didn't even say it with his chest out. He said it literally actually actually with his chest. Concave like dislike very apologetic about merely acknowledging the fact that temporarily for the time being used. Qb one so. I wanted this role himself in a rug. And have people walk really. Don't we want out of the guy at this point i am so glad we are rallying behind. Andy don't not as the starter to be clear. just starting this quote was circulating. Andy dalton. it's my time. And then when you watch it in context clearly he was responding to a question about you know dealing with a first round pick behind him and he gave a nuance answer. It would be like if katie you asked me. Are you better than pablo and say you're better than pablo located. Pablo's a great teammate. I understand what he brings to the table. I'm the best at some things. Pablo's good at other things and the internet. Just went nina kinds. I'm the best. That is what we done. To andy. Dalton. and nobody do that to me. It's not new. I'll just say it's not me. Why am i only good at some things. But you're the best at other. I was gonna ask what things did not obeyed. My question was which pablo good at just to be clear here. Unicom's andy dalton pablo torre justin fields. You can we also give credit to any for the glow like not the beard. Why wasn't he doing that before. But once i figured it out. He figured it out. Good for him happy. He's here now. You question whether kevon looney was trying. Okay kevon looney was at a youth. Camp up against a kid in this clip is a rising freshmen. He's six five was he trying. Let's find out so knees on defense here in black. He's playing in kinda hard. Aw no i think you. I think he was. He was definitely drying. The argument being made that he was trying but in the interest of not hurting. The guy's feelings. I may he may maybe wasn't trying but his feelings katie. We're beyond. that point is feelings are unbelievably her. This own camp this is. You can't have named after that and a congregation of kids that were at one point nanoseconds before your biggest fans because shutout to kevin loonies biggest fans who exist. He became the guy that a bunch of children are collectively laughing at. Which is the worst group of anything to be laughing at you. If i had a camp and i was the nba player. I would simply not play defense. I would simply not put myself in a situation especially if the camper was six-foot-five nah not. I can't risk and injury an nba player. Well congratulations to that rising freshmen on the new basketball camp that he owns because that's his camp. Now here's what i'll say to. That's actually the greatest sell for a lower level. Nba stars basketball camp. Is that like you might write to cook me. So why don't you come and get a video. That might go wrong. We'll talk about it on that weird show in the afternoon on. Espn do question if we should believe that hunter renfro cook jalen ramsey yesterday. I hate to do this but do you question if we should believe should just be like do you question if he cooked. He didn't have to put. It doesn't matter. So there's hunter renfro cooked jalen ramsey at practice in here is what one hundred renfro who was asked. This feels like a cooking show. Now the last two segments have just been about cooking. But here's what hunter renfro has to say about it. Jalen if and that's the beauty of the. If i can be jalen ramsey and i can beat anybody because he's one of the best and that's how i approach it and And so hopefully tomorrow. We'll make better. I've been trying to figure out who my boyfriend models style. After i now finally realized that hundred jalen ramsey you can imagine. Took it really. Well right let's see what he tweeted about it. I can't believe that y'all believe half the b. s. that people save for clicks. Y'all got to know at this point and do better than that. Ll it's all love. But just no. I'm really the chosen one. Thank you god. There's more y'all enjoy all day though. Because i know i am. Ll even the haters. I still hope you enjoy day and go make some money. Thanks jalen thank you. Which i guess i would count me one of because you didn't you didn't refute anything there other than that. You weren't going to say anything to not believe everything you read so also didn't allow replies except for people that he follows and or mentioned but the thing that really tipped it in the direction of i think hunter renfro great british bake off. You is the fact that no one replied even among the people that do follow. Everyone was just like yeah. We're going to let you just be out there on an island that apparently is now owned by hunter retro looking so the thing about one hundred renfro is that even though he looks like derek cars younger brother garin car they just let on the team's doing it good. He has led the raiders in catches. The last two years he is. Crafty is an incredible right runner. Ye has great hands. He's like one of the more underrated slot receivers in the nfl. Put some respect on his name and try to do it without leaning on every single stereotype. We use to describe small white receivers. I challenge you. Stereotypes like saying that he looks like derek cars. Younger brother that we let go onto team does does or. I was going to go with the substitute teacher. But that seemed less insulting to me. Math says went to great things. Come together they make something greater. For instance one plus one is too simple right. How about this shrunk plus hotdog equals tailgate or turf plus dancefloor. He was in zone. And when you add friends plus football equals. Espn fantasy football. It's as simple as that. Espn fantasy football with insights provided by ibm watson. Sign up now at espn dot com slash. Fantasy football nipsy hustle hustle seen. There's a kinship between hooper's rappers from thirty for thirty podcasts and the undefeated this is the king of crenshaw hatfill motivate. I mean at that age like the ethos of being an elite athlete. I don't know what is it was my superior i. It was all about how we could better our city. Life is really a marathon starting august. Twenty third following listen when sirius. Xm pandora stitcher. Or wherever you get your podcast time to play the game. That still doesn't know how many buttons to button on its shirt c. o. u. tells us on television tonight. We tell you we're intrigued or not. This is like a. There's one week a year. You can wear this shirt that makes you feel better because it's a turtleneck and a tank top. This is the only tonight at seven thirty. Pm eastern patriots eagles not why the patriots keep playing on thursday. What's that all about. Yes sure course. I'm intrigued The eagles obviously need receivers. They drafted jalen rieger. Let's see catch that. He made in practice. What do i need a different camera angle. I mean i don't understand the physics of it. Yeah that's confusing to me. But i am very very impressed. I don't understand. That doesn't make any sense to me. That i don't understand it public intrigue. I'm very intrigued. I also don't understand it. I also tend to understand that like eagles fans like the standard for success for a wide. Receiver is don't get made fun of by a guy who just caught a baby who was flung out of a burning building like nelson galore. So i'm excited for the jalen. Rieger era to proceed. Okay may now you in cheek betrayed by this game but also like as far as eagles wide receivers go. You know who i bet. They wish they had hunting. Pro hunter he would be divert. He's gonna shut up about him honestly. You haven't stopped thinking about since last segment you just keep talking about. We went through an entire ten minute break in between segments. And you just talked renfro. It's not even just kept saying he's so good all right. That's it for another episode. highly questionable. Aren't you glad you watched if you can find the nfl. Live or the meantime show featuring lenny her podcast pablo's podcast is called. Espn daily because he's important and they put the name of the company on his podcast. That's where you can find them. They're my friends. Good out sports skating all. Oh thanks meena. Oh yeah he's good. Say it again believe it under. I've always so good. I can't stresses. Why are you getting so excited about it.

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KD's Big Night

Around the Horn

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

KD's Big Night

"Read Ben Simmons. The Jeff flare is all second fiddle to a frame by frame breakdown of the acting of art vedic time commercials. Did you see those are walking talk a walk? I don't know what my hands where my walking how talking. Berry. One believable. Dr on around the horn. We'll get to that little bit later. Maybe the entire second half of the shelf. We're gonna start with major league baseball five games suspended. Brad Keller one game suspended, Tim Anderson, and they'll be law and order shaking out after Wednesday's extracurriculars. Just passing initially had the report Anderson suspension coming for language pirates players say they heard Anderson using a racially charged word there's that phrase now, they're boarding is the phrase was weak bleep. Leaping. N word. Blackstone. I'll turn to you. I this is an incredibly complex issue more. So than just the unwritten rules of baseball. How do you consider MLB's suspensions here? Well, is problematic because there is context and use of a word, and I could fill major league baseball conference room with books and journalistic academic papers written on the use of this word. I could send them to read Randall Kennedy's etymology on this word in Hollywood gets us. I think that they probably overstepped their bounds. You I think they probably don't understand how this word may have been used in this context. We'll also have to hear from Tim Anderson. But these are just, you know, this is a written rule that they have that goes along with an unwritten rule that probably shouldn't have been implemented in this situation. And let's not forget that we started this whole thing with apparently a bat flip after Tim Anderson's. Majestic home run that major league baseball sin out on his own Twitter feed as something that we should celebrate. And. Now, we're down that is an interesting point have it. But let me ask you. Specifically. Do you believe major league baseball is in position to police the use of what's being reported as the N word? Absolutely that Sarah Spain you. This is really complicated. And for all the reasons that Kevin just said, but in addition because if he's yelling at a white pitcher is it racially charged anymore, or is it a word that maintains a different meaning for him when he uses it and in relation to who is using it towards that's what gets so complicated about this. I think in general we do need to have leagues. Police the language of players toward other players and fans, particularly if they're caught on camera or microphone because words, matter homophobic, slurs racial slurs misogynist slurs matter, and they affect the way we all see intrigue other that being said, this is a much larger conversation than something. I think baseball is able to understand. There are academic papers about who gets to use it. And what the context is. And what the word has morphed into over the years. It's really difficult to say that anybody whether it's an empire an official major league offices is able to understand the complexities. And then decide who gets to use it to the question. I ask Kevin Blackstone. Your answer would be no, you don't believe. Baseball's position to police the N word here unilaterally in any sort of what? I guess, but I also don't think you just ignore it. Right. Because there's other instances where it should be Phil. I tend to agree with Sarah. And everyone keeps using the word context. Let's let's imagine here. Joe Torry this is his office. He's the chief baseball officer. If he's walking through the White Sox clubhouse, and here's Tim Anderson. Say that to another teammate Tim Anderson is not getting suspended for a game. I think in this case there's arguing going on this players from both sides, look like a brawl might break out. So when he gets a report from an empire, he's thinking, you know, what he's taken this to a different level. That's why the league felt like they had to step in in my opinion. I mean it comes. I think this is a bad look for baseball doubly, right? It was a bad. Look, we got kicked out of the game at a moment when baseball is trying to promote this let the kids play image tweeting out a video of him flipping the bat got kicked out. Everybody was angry about that. I think this is a bad look to for all the reasons everybody is saying words, take on different. Meaning depending on who saying it, depending on the context, I think calling Tim Anderson in particular saying that for him to say it and call it racially charged is just wrong. Baseball's would about. Global standard or or you've heard this. I mean, you've studied the word Kevin Blackstone. You've taught reporting of the word in journalism classes, I'm sure among reporters and also of the general public. How do you consider it all people were to say, it's a double standard, there's a double standard, and that's just fine with the arbitrators of how you use this particular slur. We have taken it back and used it as we want to use it. And anytime someone else uses it they wind up getting into some sort of trouble. And that's the case here because the arbitrator on this in this particular case as Frank may have mentioned Joe Torry is not one that has the gravitas to the arbitrator for this. Then what is baseball do? How does baseball choir the gravitas because these are cultural issues in baseball white players Latino players black players. How does baseball get into a position where they can have the gravitas as you say, well, they're going to have to talk to all players involved. And they're going to have to diversify. Their management even more. And they're going to have to come to a better understanding of the players that they have on the field now. And I would just point out baseball is black or now that it's ever been before just happens to be that so many of those black players from a from Latino from Latin countries. Nice few thoughts guys will move on basketball. Now warriors one thirty two clippers one zero five two ran thirty eight Beverly six did. Kevin durant? Who is he's the rain prove to you. He's going to be that. Kevin durant? The rest of the postseason Sarah Spain. Wouldn't that be nice all the warriors players played up to their potential and showed up every night with the kind of focus that other teams need to get. You know, other teams beat the brakes off of them. No, not necessarily. Of course, he should. Of course. That'd be great for him and his team. But that's the whole problem with being so good is that you can win even when you don't show up, and that's going to happen. Every once in a while with them to comes. Kevin Durant reminded everyone that yes, he's Kevin Durant. Which means he is arguably the best basketball player on earth indefinitely the most complete player. And sometimes we forget that because he plays on the warriors. And I think that's fair. We forget it was stuff as well. And then he comes out and game last night and goes five for five every single one of those shots was contested. He can do that. Because he's Kevin Durant. Draymond Greece said after the game, you know, how many guys can stop Kevin if Kevin doesn't want to be stopped and the if is important because he doesn't always exactly right. And you're saying we forgot Kevin. No, Kevin Durant. Did he forget he had eight shots? The previous game. I ask you Frank. I was the whole Kevin Durant. Kevin durant? Spiel about the media over said about himself. He needs to convince himself. I think it was about the media. You mentioned the shots in game two eight he took twenty three last night thirty eight points and thirty minutes after the game. He talked about a technical foul which has since been rescinded which Michael greeny said to the media. All right. So now, what are you going to say that he somehow got into my head? It is stung him from the time. He left Oklahoma City that he's weak minded. And after game two it's Patrick Beverley is in your head, by the way with Patrick Beverley guarding him. He was nine of thirteen. Kevin durant? Last night said, you know, who I am. I'm kevin. Yeah. I mean, Kevin Durant hasn't liked the treatment that he is perceived. He's gotten from the media for several years now maybe ever since he did that weird commercial on TV. But you know, what the night before that, obviously wasn't Kevin Durant. Here's a guy averages. Twenty shots game in the playoffs makes almost half of them and his absolutely dominant. And that's what we saw again last. Let me ask you this because you cover the league for twenty five years, but a player of his caliber, okay, not being content with how he is talked about or even reported by reporters. What is that about? I don't get it. You know, he's a two-time finals MVP. He's unbelievable play. He went to he went to Golden State. He got exactly what he wanted to championships. Maybe he'll get a third, but as Kevin point out. He cannot be taking shots game twenty three shots for Kevin Durant. That's right around right in the neighbor twenty to thirty. And by the way, Tony they were down thirty one points in this game. Just like they say exact time. Kevin Durant with not a lot of them. I don't think we're gonna see that. What happened again? We'll move on. Sixers one thirty one nets one fifteen Simmons. Thirty one Dudley zero squad douche dawn is what Simmons said when he was asked about the with Dudley. Speaking of done. I think broken we'll take this. I think net I got a different take. I'm not even gonna mute by association, you I've just embarrassed for those four reporters take a long weekend guys. Now, maybe that's what six is reacting to you, by the way, guys fix for Simmons and Philly show you without Embiid. I love the stat of Tobias Harris JJ Rettig, Ben Simmons all scored twenty five or more points. First time that's happened. Philadelphia playoff game since nineteen seventy eight. But this is about Ben Simmons. He was nine of eleven from the free throw line. He got to the basket. Jared Dudley said he's averaging the half court. He was great and a half court. And the fact that he was willing to get hit step to the free throw line because it's pretty shooting has not been great. Ben Simmons was his good as I've ever seen him last night. And that was once again without Joe was going to ask you point blank. I mean, he's flip the switch there that we haven't seen him flip in maybe college. But in the NBA is well, right. Yeah. Kevin blackstone. What did you see from Simmons? Well, and can we say that he made everybody else on the floor better given that he was on? This thing is big guy to Harris was fantastic last night. JJ Reddit coming off those curls and getting wide open shots and Ben Simmons just controlling the tempo. He was the scariest player on the court when he had the ball because you didn't know. So if he was going to go to the rack and get a big basket or find a guy for an open shot. He did it all. Yeah. I mean, if we learned anything from Durant and Simmons, it's probably zip the lip, right? You don't really need to talk about you guys word, Cheryl. Yes. Right. Keep him muted guys. Yeah. I mean, this was an impressive showing from him. The question for this team is going to be whether they can take on better more well rounded teams than the nets. The nets outperformed expectations this year. They're good team. I'm not discouraging them or disparaging them. But I do think that when you Joel Embiid can be out, and you can still beat them. And when it doesn't require Ben Simmons to play other worldly just to play. Well, I don't know if it really proves anything beyond they're a better team. And they show you. For me last night wasn't just about Simmons. It was about how the Sixers played around Simmons. It almost to me. Like, I was watching Janos and the books in terms of the space. Jimmy Butler was creating for him setting picks the outside shooting talked about Tobias Harris. He went six for six. That's the second most res in NBA playoff history without a miss, and because of that he was able to create the space for Simmons to excel like he. A little bit differently. The Sixers, but there's one big question markets. Joel Embiid concern, you're Frank. Oh, it has to be a major concern. If you look at his career, he misses a lot of games always hurt. Now. They're talking about is the good thing is you can hold them out. And if he doesn't play game five on Tuesday that's a fuller. You would hold him out Toronto. I definitely gave game. All right. We've been warned by ourselves vex. But wait, there's more. The thing. They asked me, I notice I notice for fact, they asked me if she wanted to commission said, no, I would not know commercial. That's my friends aren't eating then they said, no reality, but will put Lenny and she's like, yes, let's do that. That's all I wanted. Anyway. I'm talking best friend. I'm walking and talking. We all love a night out. Whether it seeing our favorite band in person or being there in the crowd to cheer on our favorite team with vivid seats, you can attend the concert show or sporting event of your choice at a great price vivid seats, the top source for tickets for all the live events. 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Derek Whyte traffic thirty six and a game during a two one lead in the series versus the two seat Senate Tony approving the better team here. They are. I thought they win because of their experience. I didn't think it would be because the twenty nine pick from the twenty seventeen guy from de-tune school played in Geely glass would go off. But of course, because it's the Spurs your story that ever Spurs as said, and he was very good this season on defense. Incredible and offense booth. Yeah. I loved how he said. Yeah. I'm not playoff experience except for the G league. And I did get some. I loved I do think actually the nuggets are a better team. But I think this I are are clicking at the right time. They had a lot of pieces that were changed this year. They've got a coach Popovich who has a ton more experience than his counterpart in Denver. And I think they are going to win this series. Even though I think then verse about. Spurs are better team. I mean, white is the better player on the court twenty two points per game in this series. Seventy two percent true shooting and great Popovich not just ton of experience over Malone as a coach Malone's first playoff series as Wessel. Derek Whyte out Jamal Murray. Who should be Denver's best player? Second best player thirty six to six. That's where the losing and meet a mentioned division, two guy. He was actually paying student loans to get his way through college. Then transferred to Colorado, the twenty ninth pick San Antonio, some has all this. This is the oldest Derek Whyte info you guys have which I'd ever heard. I think about the entire year and season. Although there could be Charles Barkley curse working Jamal Murray. We'll move on you guys field address. Well, maybe maybe a week. Here's something you don't hear every year in Rapa. Poor Rapa porting the raiders. Jon Gruden GM. Mike may I'll sit there scouts home for the weekend. They're not expected to return by dreamtime belief is they don't know who to trust and wanted to clear the room. Cetera. What does that even mean? Well, what's interesting is all these people have come out to say, this isn't that awful lot of guys get sent home for Easter. And it just a couple people left to really handle the draft business. But no one's addressing the end of it. Which is that they don't trust who's working for them. Now, I'll were reported that there's been some talk around the entire staff being fired after the draft if that got out, and then they're worried about those guys having no loyalty 'cause they're going to get canned. Then that explains a lot of this. Right. That's the digging we need to do. Well, if you just hiring Gruden to run everything was going to clean up the messes raiders, this is just proof. This is absolutely wrong. What is going on up there? I don't know. I'm not even going to pretend to know. But it certainly is not Sola. I don't know paranoia worth pretty well with guys like Bill bell. Check, Pat Riley. I think Mike Mayock, and obviously Jon Gruden so important thing about all the picks that they have. I think they're trying to circle the wagons here. They don't want anything to get out. I don't blame him. This is a huge draft for them to comes turn to you. I think if this was any other team, it wouldn't be a huge story. But because it's the raiders were all raising eyebrow. And I think that's fair right because Gruden did throw merge MacKenzie under the bus and may act doesn't have experience and there's been bad juju around this front office for a couple years. Now, it's totally fair for us to be a little bit skeptical about teams and their scouts. Hold before. The NFL drip, three eight six days before we. We. Some of them do have small rooms. And don't have that many guys in the room on the day. Absolutely. Because the jobs already done, right. They've already done right. Scouting buy or sell three voluntary workouts? Here's another NFL story Jaguars. Jalen, Ramsey, Taliban. Smith, no showed Tom Coughlin Tom Coughlin. These at quote, it's about obligations and responsibility. Every Winston resin the NFL PA, quote, our CBA definition of voluntary is the same as the actual definition. We do this every year the semantic showdown of our lives. What do we do this every year Kaby because as Derek Darren Hamburg said years ago, what do voluntary mean, you can go if you want you don't have to go and you should not suffer a penalty for it? Come on NFL players put in another time. They don't need to be at a, but, but it's, you know, this it's like both sides. They're supposed to play a certain role in this whole conversation. Shrank is something years or nothing you that's exactly what this is Tom cop. Looking to score some points the players on the team that are already there. Jalen Ramsey, a big name. Tom coughlin. Those exactly what the rules are. He knows exactly what the reaction is going to be. And he was. Star skip these counts every season as far as Ramsey. He's long this. He said that this is how he's gonna do things because his dad drains him in Tennessee. This is not out of nowhere. And I think it's kind of a weird hill for Tom Coughlin died. Yeah. It's fine. If he wants to privately text them and say, I wish we had one hundred percent wish you were here, but to publicly do so as to do so in order to shame them for something that they're not required to do. If that's some master plan to get all the other guys that are there to feel great about themselves. I don't know if it's worth what it sends wise. And the guys that aren't though scoring on that topic two thousand times the seventeen years. We're going to see you again, very short amount of time. I have a weekend Kevin Blackstone. Frank guy. So luck showdown save voluntarily left. Bluest gets to the series. Here's the goal. That's either game for Saint Louis. Mid third making the wind possible rate in Shen's scoring. Lol the neck comes up ruled goal on ice. They said that the Fed's a player not at all. That's not true as you know. But goals are no goal Kaby. You know, what I'm gonna go with go because it looks like if you just look at it for split second. It looks like it looks like the stick is on the puck. And then the more incomes loose and going. Going on. Here was knocked into the net. That's the only reason why the goal is moving. Plus the shot was taken before the goal was moving. It's dust in buffalo. I'm not. Yes. Yes. Of course, then bump into player nothing that name. Well, it's a fun name to say points. Frank Sola, though, Blackstone did say mooring which I appreciate we'll give him a point. We'll move on here. Let me to commercial in all its glory. Let's take it in. Mornings like this. Endlessly, scrolling and searching for all the latest sports. He's. It was not great. 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Michael Jordan or LeBron James?

The Cedric Maxwell Podcast

28:14 min | 1 year ago

Michael Jordan or LeBron James?

"Because now the narrative is oh, well he. He has get over that Hong. Whereas the Bronx over the Hump was the Celtics. He went to Miami to do that. How do you discredit him? If in fact, you who was around him? In Colima. Was Very Jau and. Go gaskets. Going to beat the Celtics. Oh! You, did you? You had to do something i. mean it wasn't like you know the rain. The rain had Westbrook, and and who else every had you know? She had a bunch against him. But now. Had Lebron didn't have too much choice like okay. I'M GONNA. Take this woman every year. We. Go deep into the playoffs every year. To the finals using. The old like even looking at this team. You said so. We're going to beat this team. Hippie that team, so then you add pressure to froth is no. They give me something to. Do what. I remember at that time. He's how my salary cap restrictions. WHO WAS GONNA get traded? Who was going where? Who who would who went to go to Cleveland? Wait a minute I think yeah I wanted to go with Lebron like A. Nice like you know, I say Brady going to Tampa like. I'm thinking to myself. These guys that are in the mid thirties. They can't do this family. How many years of these guys because I'm thinking? He would those guys. The guys they had. You still had more than what you had in Cleveland. You name the gas are in Cleveland. Twenty ten okay, yeah, the Antawn Jamison in gaul skips. Potential. No Cagey can play. My Man's. They've And and what did Kevin Do? Yeah, he used. More than ten Laurent play. He played seven years in Cleveland before he. Even had a hell of a lot more success. Did. Do. You want to keep Banya head. You're going okay, look. I WanNa win this. Pretend the winning junior mid twenties Max your mid twenties, but got to have an NBA. You have one person around you. Book Booby Gibson? These were. These names you talking about Williams. He's still you're talking about like okay. These are the names you're talking about going against all of famers. A few Challah famous in the Celtics were stacked from bothered to the top mean you couldn't. There's there was no a week position with the Celtics this. Think of Leon polling. Impose a good player. Lakers found that. Girl. Schick. The last harvest! Every Facet Sorek. So the big debate obviously continues. WHO's better Michael? Jordan Lebron James and now there's a whole new narrative now, right? There's always wait a minute. Everyone talks about the help. That Lebron Guy. But. Michael Jordan had a hall of fame rebounder. Jordan had a hall of Famer in Scottie Pippen and then there's the other side. That saying well, what else thinking now Lebron? James had to get over that Hump Rei here with the Celtics. Defiling won his first championship but he wants to do that. He has in Cleveland. Why wouldn't youth so now Jordan? Fans are faulting. Mean Lebron v Quarterback, these era Lebron wasn't gonna where he was not going to win in Cleveland. And I I. I'm not I'm not kicking anything. Anderson Varejao or some Roussell Gauss Casse, but that wasn't Chris Bosh and that wasn't the way. Or Ray Allen so I think that you know from that standpoint and even supposed to be a coach. The environment was completely different, so if Lebron was going to win. He had to leave, Miami. He had to leave the Golan Miami, but I think if you look at it this way, he comes back to Cleveland. Comes back and wins it there, so you can't say that about Jordan Jordan didn't go to. Jordan going down to Washington and winning their. Brian went wet left came back and still wanted he moved up on my list after yeah respect especially because they were down three one in that series for them to come back against the wars. Hall of famers. But yeah, I'm with you. In the in the debate, though who's better, who the greatest player of all time George Lebron James Neal or who's better out of two by four? Thank you. Yeah, I forgot. One of the guys the greatest. Allies you're Juan I look at what Chamberlain and we keep some steps, creams agai and now no one. My okay, because I think you control more of the game. The anybody's ever done at anytime greatest level of time. That's gone. Yes, but. I'll know how you can go away from. Chamberlain. Because In order for the order for him to play. The, NBA changed rules fit him in. He would have been that much dominant more dominant in a there was a rule where you You couldn't cross free. Throw line. Well what Chamberlain or when where he used to do was. Get a free throw take a running running jump, and the an essentially like Laya ball into. That's a rule that you know. What chamber force the lanes were more like A. person were like a popsicle or you know a cone ice cream cone where it was more like. Veered off yeah. European. Well well, we'll made it, so you had. They made a bigger all over, so he could just camp in the lane and get rebounds. lookie some stats on. The first, the only man is averaged over fifty. One year won't Chamberlain Average in forty-eight mini game will champlin average fifty minutes that the. By planning in every minute of every game never came out and it's crazy. His nothing never fouled out of a game in his life. Never followed out. I mean you just you know. People's only guys score hundred again now Lebron just valley five everybody's. Everybody's talking about. Oh, this guy average. was. Area Fifty. You know you see a guy. Give fifty all my God. He was averaging fifty so. On a good night, he was getting getting sixty sixty five seventy on a bad night. He was getting forty four. So that's how I mean. That's how Bombini. Here, but like okay well, you know. He didn't play against well he had. The plague is one of the best players of all time and Bill Russell. Drives me crazy about that. I'm glad you brought people saying that now about Jordan and I'll make less than men because you. Watching these old games thinking these guys they all you know like Joe schmos out there. People forget that that's the way players the way. Let's face. It asked might. Look back dinner. Goofy! The way it was. That doesn't mean that they didn't have game. Against you played against the gas. We played against. You Win you win. Say Tom. Heinsohn, you know he had to run in Hook shot. BOB cousy. I'm not sure if he could. Picked up a check with his left hand, because he was all right hand, but the way the game the game has changed over the years and things that were easy. This thing Bob cousy for his career I think he sat someplace in that thirty percents area thirty to thirty three percent for his career. Dues right now in the NBA. Thirty three percent from three point line and beyond. Courage issue like probably about. Almost forty percent forty percent, so so the the way the game has changed. Everything has a whole nother perspective on you know. How is play? I always said that you know my particular championship game versus the Lakers in Nineteen eighty-four. Or there were I want to sit. There was eight three points three points attempted for the entire game. That's crazy Michael Cooper made two of them and that was in. was that nobody has made that? Nobody else made the two subjects. Nobody else made it. Three two subjects never made a three game. And, that was the seven game. I went to most grueling series against the Lakers that you could imagine bird, and that's why they did Laker thirty for thirty so out of the two though you had to pick one, or maybe it's too early which you pick and Michael. Or Lebron I think Lebron right now is still incomplete. So, let's let's give him a pass now. What do you say now this year, is he? The Best Player on that team was apnea Davis abyss. Is Operatives Okay so? was. Real strange was Michael Jordan was ever not the best on his team when he play. Don't know never was not the best. Even it was. Yeah, so I think is changed. You know by now. I'm finally doing something about my weight and my hill. Story Awake Wendy. I've already dropped about eighteen pounds. And I'm not the only. Kendrick Perkins Down About Thirty Five. Of the eleven thousand found solution for weight loss. No No medication. Weakens. Combination Science through trickery. One on one. I recommend you call agent urge. You'll lose weight starting the first week and each it every week to get to ideal weight. Awake one eight six face, but during this luck that. Virtual! As appropriate. From the comfort of your own. Simply log into to awaken. They'll. Start Your weight loss transformation. Await your? Weight Loss Pick Your weight loss program. Was Red Sox. But you don't fault him for going to Miami okay. That's fair. No, I think at that point. You know. He had to go someplace else in the win. He had to go in and team up with somebody else to win now. Do I feel like that with Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant had. West Broom and other players who would with him in okay see. Down Three one, so that was that was that was a head scratching their I mean I i. just couldn't go join them after they just beat me. We have down. I mean here's the thing you wonder. If. They had one. Of Okay, Cap Golden State. Does rain still there. No! No Jazz Oak Nokia. You agree right. I think I wanna say is thinking Oh. It's time now I was I I want to say so, but that's what most teams do you know when you get close is like okay. Next time. We're GONNA. Kick the Damn Dory as we're going to do. They didn't do that, he he'd sad. He went to leave and go. Play with you. Know Golden. Stay in that and I think. A lot of people looked at that as As a A soft ass move but. Look back on and say. Hinder going there and winning two championships and was the finals MVP. Twice. Was the step. Was Clay it was. So. As hard to argue you know what he I mean you can you can. Only throw shade other, but the end result. He was the last Guy Laugh. So. Can you compare his? You can you compare his game and his aides to Lebron James? You think there's no. There's no different. I think they're. They're different in who they are. I think Kevin. Is a lot Mitsui. He is a lust softer when it comes to his emotions right well, people are talking about I. Guess what I'm asking. Is You don't? There's no astros over those championships. Championship Sam and you've you found VP's wise. Asked her see one. We whether you want a play against guys who couldn't play. They couldn't walk. They couldn't run. No, you get a championship team, you beat! So No! I agree with you when you compare the two though the. Durant being a little more sensitive as to how he's A. Revered and was look at him and social media exactly. What I just said could get back to the rant, and he would respond to it, he would he. I guarantee you if you tweeted him nonstop for like a day or two. He would he would respond to. Lebron James Reacts from the Bruins. Whatever. Whatever you had to be the president of the United. States again Lebron skiing then yet to be the president. Not Not not Obama. But you had to be be the trumpster to get. Lebron Ronaldo is Lebron all-time is the top five. He cracked the top five view. Again things. Mike I wanted to say still incomplete. I just think they his incomplete where he is this. Let's find out at the end of the day. What he does I would join Jordan Jones. Wanting to jobs of all time top three to five hours easily opposite, easily top three. Okay, easily top three. If not, you know, you could always argue that he was the best play. A lot of people think he is, but you know it's just really interesting. The seeing then there were other people that Kobe Bryant was better. At the end of the day said, Kobe was a better player Michael. So there's always an argument out there someplace. You think Kobe Bryant. Could. Could you make a strong case and saying Kobe Bryant better than Lebron James Right now Yeltsin? You could mean the number of championships alone. Will tell you that the score titles 'cause I just. Recently well I think that. If you think about like Kobe, his his wheel, he impacted the game. He could like you. Say Kobe Miss. Fifteen shots and then come back and make fifteen in a row. You think about that game that big game that. What was last game of his career was sixteen Utah Yeah and against. Utah and he said Hey I started. I was thinking the building. And came back and was just unbelievable the way the game. Never Forget it. Now you know going back on the other side. I might have to pick colby. Is Tough, their neck and neck. As. I told you on twitter. 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And this is no offense at all, but you know. Still Living, but I think yeah greater in depth about how you were and how you play I mean there were so many people who came out of the woodworks at the end in praised Kobe who hate it seemed like they hate it. Kobe respected them, but they hated him. And when he passed away, it was like this. You couldn't find a person out there. That would say a bad word about Kobe. Bryant and this was well. There was some people because of some people were still on the thing to happen. in Denver in Denver where people are still still on that. Colorado were happening there, but. But for the most part, and then there were people were still that the shack people. Who you know, Kobe toll on Shag or Shag did. He pays women. Shack and that was just not. That that didn't ring good in the community. That was that was breaking the broncos. For sure broke. The Bronco has no different than. Getting a Laker player of the Young Lakers player that toll all the Angelo Russ yeah, the Angel Rozas. Shaggy PEA and about what he, what you? Put Record the conversation. Posted that was you say there's a? There's a bro Code that you have that you that you have with people. You don't you don't mess? Nobody's wife. You know messing nobody's kids. And No snitching. SNITCHING That's true, but then you had the other people who are going to say like you. The Bras Dunya Yeah. Lebron is another one. Does that change. Go says if he gets several one. You become the. FOLLOWS MVP I mean. Lebron James is unique. And the thing that you cannot deny. Lebron James says lived up to almost all the hype right and I. Don't think any basketball player any other athlete I know. Has had the the scrutiny that Lebron James is no question. Can we go back and pretty much say that eighth grade? Thing about you think about football players who came in China and sale and people like that Tom Brady. Tom Brady was no hype around him about what he was, but since Lebron James was into, you know. What is that eighth grade paved grade? He has been known as the king, the Chosen One and has lived up to expectations and. Surpass those? I mean you can even look Kobe Bryant. Look the Kobe Bryant like that same. It'd be I, but he ain't going. Be We marking him down as as the One? And how many times we've seen the one and you know Brian Bosworth, who played? Football at Oklahoma is a great linebacker and get to the NFL is. Pretty much was a bus so I. Don't know too many people. Who Have you know I? Remember careen. I remember well Lew Alcindor, and then when he went to college. I mean that's another guy, but you'd think how you've lived through that scrutiny. Your entire life that to me is amazing is is is is amazing and to step on their state. You know you've got this poster. Right here of of of Larry Bird. Wind Larry Bird really come on to see was in college. Brian James's Highschool he's he's doing this though in high school. That people's listening. You Know Magic Johnson. high-school college say you're going to be good, but nobody's say like okay, you know. He makes coming. I. Don't remember anybody. Jordan Jordan got cut. Georgia Jordan got cut like I did. In his junior year, I think it's off more year from his high school team. So he didn't have to deal with. You know that next guy coming up until he was in college and the Brian did it when he was in eighth grade, so he is, he is taken very very few MIS steps. Credit that for sure you have to give them credit for that for sure I mean made look at look at. Spotlight? Look, at Michael. Jordan has had missteps right with the gambling. the womanizing. All those things account. Go along with it Kobe. Bryant the womanizing. You know that stuff you know has gone along with him, but you can't hardly name to this day. What was the BRAS MISSTEPS? Outside of the game. A decision. That's closest you get as it goes, you get and that was. That was his decision to make. So I I, don't I? Don't think he's still with his high school. Sweetheart from mistaken, so yeah, you are maybe not you, but some people are thinking. Okay. It's going to slip. Point. knows. No unless he just has veil over him. I. Think that's that's the whole thing that you know. People have, and this is around. Themselves will good people i. think that's where it is surrounded himself with it. His entourage of people have been really good and You know only takes one to take the king down. One spy in there and we've seen it over and over again, but nothing yet I mean the thing that I look at his Jordan. Hess control the narrative. Because he owns the What A business move! This was at this particular time nothing going on in the. World No sports at all, and he comes out with the last day. Whether I'll say. We had the chance to talk about the last dance. How many years ago and you're supposed to be in June and they pushed it to April because it was going on and the thing. That's crazy about that last dances that. Even with that. That you still don't see. And I have seen as much of but Jordan spots. We need decided. He was retiring I. think that there by just looked like okay. And I think that we looked at it this way that you walk away in your prime. And then you always want. People were always wanting more. We still look at Barry Sanders. We go. Wow, he's still has something now. We look at Gronk. This gronk anything left. He's GonNa. Come back. It's GONNA be. It's GonNa be fascinating, but Jordan for him to come back to his credit. Didn't come back is like one of the best in the game he came back is the best in the game he control that narrative and came back and won the championship. That was. That's what was crazy about that. Remember, Scottie. Pippen Airbus Scott. Is GonNa. Take the league over now because you know Scotty can do what Michael did. We found out that wasn't the case. And they had Toni Kukoc. He's going to be the Pink Panther. That's what they used to call him. He's GonNa. Do it now. He's GonNa be. CHICAGO, they get to be good again to deal that guy. Guy came back into build remorse to came back liberal more champion the end up building. He's the greatest man he's gross, and that's why this thing doesn't get. None of these none of these stories all for me, I think that you. Do because you still think. We're bias. You and I I didn't see I saw Russell play a few times nineteen sixty nine I think it was last game I didn't I think graduating from high school until nineteen seventy-three so I didn't get a chance to see Russell and appreciate who he was, but you hear Tommy Heinsohn, talk about him. Is just these. Things Russell was able to do. Somebody may steal one to and Russell literally I can hear. Timing is any read the Guy Down? Doubting flock this job before gave a lady. Is Russell ran for one into the other? That's how fast he was so those go in. You know you look at it and I seldom you. You've seen that the one thing that you know. When habitats stole the ball, Russell had done a something to try inbound the ball and the ball hit. The stanchion was out of bounds, and the ball went to the seventy sixers and Russell was saying. Are I guess when you guys to build me out I? Need somebody that. Me Out from mistaken s when. Sam Jones hit the ball and then have a check stole the ball and. That's part of a Celtic lower, so the man has how many championships I love him. Eleven. Lab. Say outside live. He got eleven lab. He got lived. So? I think this is crazy. We think about who he is player. Mean, they're legendary things about about you know. BOSTON, and that you know just go along with me something about Bucky Dan I think about Brady Tuck rule. Think about you know. Have a check steals the ball, but none of them are funniest me as my CD. None of that. There were big PAPI. That just kills me when I think about it wasn't that long. Ago. My. Seventy ago. Seven years ago. To. See. And now he's doing eastern somebody's bank as like. Again those checks gags. David Ortiz. Still get those.

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NBA All Star Game Wrap Up March 8 2021

The Sports Comedy Show

20:44 min | 8 months ago

NBA All Star Game Wrap Up March 8 2021

"While under the sports comedy show on. Paul salerno the creator and host of the shell. This is another edition of talk. Radio today is monday. March eighth are today will be the all star game. Wrap up monday. All star game was on sunday. Okay another american monday. Sunday was fun day. Did you watch all star game. Yesterday turns out they put three big events into one. The all star game the skills competition and the slam dunk competition at thought. It was very enjoyable. We're gonna talk about it. I got a couple of goods sub stories. We're going of go onto to go over as well I say welcome to the women in congratulations. Today's international women's day. You made a far stride and the workplace. So good for you been i. It's i'll talk radio. Hey thank you. I thought start with some women music. The other bengals to commemorate international. Women's day as i said it's gone women's dead now gone international. So there's a global effect Good for when they may lead some strides in the workplace. And we're glad to have on our had to see everything that they can do. Contribute to everybody at the workplace. Okay now before we get into the all-star game have you been to the website. And i'm gonna say the most of you have and Hopefully if we get some new viewership on when you get a chance hit the website. Sports comedy show danica the reason i say. I think most obvious 'cause. I've been putting new content out. There is an mba page in myself and my Traffic With way up on that website. So i appreciate that and again if you haven't sports comedy. Show dot net forward slash mba. Or if you just go to the homepage you can see the nba. Twenty twenty one season page. That are i. Put some pre all star game stuff up there. And i'm going to put some post all-star game up there either own today so right now. It is all about the nba season so basketball fans spread. The word in that paid that will be updated regularly throughout the season It's kind of fun. You know. I i try to put enjoyable stuff out there. So it's not just statistics sports con- that's what we do. Sports gonna show all vasco. We hit a milestone here at the sports nami show and that is i was informed by the bus route. We are on the bus route that we've reached eight thousand downloads for the show which means we've had at least thousand people out there. Give the show a shot. I wanna thank you wanna thank everybody think myself but i want to thank you guys for listening jumping ahead and spread the word you know. That's kind of cool thing in going to keep going. We can go forward with all this in Was nice to hear from the bus out and give me a little update so okay. Let's get into the all star game it. Everybody watches yesterday. As i mentioned there was three contests all in one. So we're gonna talk a little bit about the. What did they do. The three-point caught on tests. Which i thought was probably the most exciting thing today. The skills contest which i thought was a joke And then they do the slam dunk contest which quite frankly with boring so now they did that. I guess we'll start with the slam dunk contest. The at halftime only have three players this year. Three young players which i thought was a little shocking only have three in the slam dunk contest. I thought they usually had more free. The three people this year were affirming. Simmons cast is stanley who Somebody as cancer and called him. Gashes clean so and you last big was. Ob to tobin who we call. Obi wan kenobi So cassius went down in the first round in. Got down to the second round with obi wan kenobi and the union affirming students averted simmons wednesday the slam dunk contest. I really wish it was exciting. Bit to me. It really wasn't in the you know the a ferny did do one unique slammed down. He put the ball on a little meany. Ram about her about eleven or twelve feet up picked up the ball jumped up caught the ball. They've slammed it. I thought that was the best slam dunk for the day in sound. Something like this homework pass. It was the monster. Gut was a headache for somebody. I thought it was probably the best of the contest. On the regionwide. Seeds boring was the really have too. Many unique kahn saved up to i. We're at the point where most everything's been done so would really take some creativity to come up with something. Nil that was about the newest of them was that there. Simmons wins it good for him. We're gonna move on on the nets. Lower gonna talk about. Was the skills contests now this. I still don't understand you know you thick skills contests with display some skills in that. You know you start thinking of the people in the skills contests at some of the best ball handlers and some of the best players in the world people like chris. Paul julius randle from the knicks. Want to make this statement So bonus was out there dawn. So you these guys are going to be running cross cross-court dribbling everywhere putting the ball through hoops. Left him right. Maybe doing some fancy passing footwork. No no that's not the spills skills contest. Apparently you got dribble the ball through a couple. I guess they called slaloms. There was really no slog to it. Drove the ball la. Shoot at three. I you shoot it. You gotta pass it through a tire. That was about the biggest skill contests and then bring the ball back in two to three and whoever it i was the winner this was more like a gladiator contest. It wasn't wrote display skills. But it's this show in job scenario so you're wondering what's about us. Everybody was thinking chris paul. He went down in the first round. It really all got that got down to if you put the ball through that tire and then three so that it was exciting to fund. They're just having fun. There was no real You know no real cause here in this one. Do any good so too excited with the skills contests but the one that was exciting. Incredible was the three point contest to be quite frank. I think that was probably the most exciting is part of the day was three point contest so they had some big names in there. The biggest was steph curry. Also they had Brown and tatum tatum from the celtics. Were there and mike conley and donovan. Mitchell from the utah jazz guys to him and talk about the jazz. They were in there. I was rooting for mitchell. Turns out mitchell went down in the first round on the mike carly was in the final rows steph curry and yellow. The way they do it now is there's a three balls the one point ball then there's the aba colored ball for two points which has been common but this year they had a three point ball mountain dew boston so was being sponsored by mountain dew so they spewed do all over. The court sounded pretty good The speed the do. I don't know if they've done this for previous years are not i just don't know. But they got a three point ball and that three point ball came into play on the final round because steph curry nail. Both the three point balls and was able to take down. You'd be calling by one point on the final shot if you mrs. His final commonly widget been no big needs. Steph curry wins it. I thought it was his first. But i i guess i was. Ill informed or misinformed calorie puttick point competition winter so sided for step. Now that i know that you want once before. I thought it was i. I would like to see commonly win it. But that's the way it goes steph. Curry winds up. That was the most exciting part of it was the three point contest. That's pretty cut and dry. It's not done by judges or creativity or some silly sloan courts it's just scale and that's just the dynamics of The three point contest so steph takes it home give her hand me in that that to me took the take but then we have the all star game so we got a couple. I got a couple of stories here for those who are aware. Didn't watch on. It was broken down into two teams in. We talked about in the pre game last friday. Most people were either team. The broader team durant. My first question is where the hell was. Kevin durant I know kevin kevin. I understand your foot hurts or you got an injury. So put on a suit and get on the sideline in put a smile on your face in. Cheer your fellow team on you know. Give the fans a little respect for the fact that they voted your captain they played the popularity game decided judicial so popular. You're going to be catholic and you're going to respond by a no show. Are you kidding me. Kevin durant kevin durant. You can't sit on the sideline and be happy because you got injury. You can't make the game. That was disgraced. Can you feel the anger. I don't understand why give durant could be there. But he could. And so quite frankly. His team moss savvy. I was reversed but i. I don't understand that one. I just think kevin Really blew that one in a big way nor do they give him a reason demon. Google looked to see if he had a genetic excuse. They just went on without him so he had. Doc rivers doc rivers. Was there on the sideline coach. The team you know they they. They tried to in the in the in the locker room before they came out. 'cause he had that doctors always has good speak to. Rit team the all star game out there get a good track myself as doc rivers. Now get out. There hasn't really was okay. I can see them. It's going to be a lot science to this game. And it showed the all star game. There was no defense. There was no kevin. Durant could show up there. A there was really nothing but a bunch of three pointers in much alley. Oops in a slam agenda. That was your all star game Here's another story before we get into the actual game here. Here's the story. How would you like to be joel. Embiid or benson's both these guys. Young players drove by far the best fair in basketball. This year excited to go to the all star game sim decided into the australian. So let's go see our philadelphia seventy six barber. Your freedom get you know kids. They like to make a fashion statement on. Raise up the the Cyber nicer stick the hair straight up nowadays called an afro it but at any rate the point of they go get their haircut today before the game and then on game day is they get rid their down in atlanta ready to rock the road. Everybody else they get a phone. Call a bad news boys. Apparently the barber has cova did and because of the contract tracing rules. Youtube have been exposed. You're gonna turn around home right joel. Embiid then simmons was not ever playing the game and they even tested part of the virus talking about well you've been exposed and because you've been exposed you're so that takes a whole cup of tea because joel embiid was going to be the starter and team durant so it didn't happen that way just the big palmer for those guys and they really kept story on the down. Low really on one. That's kind of making a big noise about because it just had to simply be in. It was really a bar. I'm not saying that these should have let them play I understand the roles. In what the roles and everything going on with kobe. And i'm not one of those people say. Oh it's not real. They should be a it was just a bid power that two young stars especially the one doing the best here cannot play. You know he wants to be there and have fun unlike durant because all my injured at better stay home. Couldn't make it drill and simmons who were there. Were playing advocate home. So that was kind of a bone now. Let's get to the game. As i said it was It was fun to see all stars out there. You know and lebron now if you recall in my lascaux is that he's gonna play a couple of minutes. He didn't even play in the second half. He played half of the first half so we played about a quarter which is more than i thought he would play. But he's there he's having funded sits group of people in in in. I'm down with that and glad for him in. He was there with his team so they get the mvp. Guyana us guys. Ed tombo. he was an amazing. I believe sixteen shots before he missed one. Now here's the real story because it was an all star game. There was defense sixteen times. They passed to him right out of the raymond he slammed up or sixteen times through open up and he was right there in slam dunk it. He did finally make a. He took a three pointer. big blue. Make you get a break. Streaking shot and he shot it. So bad bid to write off the vast and into the whole so it was night. He got the mvp home. I lost track it thirty five or forty points. And i don't have the staff here because it's an all star game it. Is we come up with the staff we should. He ended up with thirty five points. Guy aniston in he he was the leading score so he takes down your bp the other one who was popping with staff after winning the three point competition he took it right to the gang and he started hitting forty forty five footers. He came up with twenty eight points again. There was no defense. It was just a fun running gun game and On the other side of the ball one who was putting up points was bradley. Beal go straight to the hole and see how there's no competition you did many layoffs and try to keep team durant in there. I thought it would have been a better performance by team. Draft really wasn't in. maybe either. Wasn't there james. Harden came off the band's popped a couple of threes got twenty one points the wester team lebron was to dominating even the braun he passing. He wasn't there to score or winning. Mvp he was just there to guide his team which is a good leader he. He stepped up into the lead role in did it. Jalen brown came off his beds and scored twenty two points. And the one who actually who with steph curry daytime came off of lebron's benson. This is why they want the game to be honest. Was day miller damian lillard and number thirty two points in he was him steph context. I could shoot the ball further away. You can't and so you see forty for then you'd see delivered their forty two steps to forty four forty and he damian lillard go back to about forty six or forty and these guys were back and forth by clock threes in. That really wasn't difference at the again. It's a fun show boat game so nobody cared. They raised a whole bunch of money for charity. Good for them that it was all about. I'm big shout out to one glady knights or last night's in the you know remember gladys fight because she is sustain gladys knight in the pits. Their big was midnight train to georgia. She did a how job for seventy six years old. She came out and belted out the national anthem. Incredible show by gladdy cheer for so soldier her so she brought it to the show. Seen how the show was in atlanta georgia. Matas what she was been night trying to atlanta georgia zongo. Nineteen seventy four. When that some female seventy four ladder was around so she came out. Belted out the national anthem. It seventy six years old good for her good for the city of atlanta funday of all star basketball. Okay guys i think kinda covered the whole Shebang there it at that now. Before i go before i call it a day if you like what you heard. Tell friend if you have any comments or want to add to the all star game country. Let's send me an email at the sports comedy show at g. Mail dot com. Or if you have any other topic who knows you may end up on talk radio and we can talk about. But you gotta undermined paul smile. This has been the talk radio. The post all-star game ramp up have a good day. We'll see you next time.

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Celtics & Heat Game 2 Preview + The Clippers Collapse

The Cedric Maxwell Podcast

27:21 min | 1 year ago

Celtics & Heat Game 2 Preview + The Clippers Collapse

"Jae Crowder was killed a man looking like Klay Thompson out there but was born he was killing he think about yeah. Okay, you got Gordon. What's the score in the Atlanta Burger truck out there for the Gordon was going there y'all so cheerful and we're going that huh. Come here. Now. I'm playing I'm busting y'all that that's what Gordon are sitting there watching a big girl loved at your last job. So here we are fabulous on your Wi-Fi. All right. So the Miami Heat off the Celtics in game one of the the Conference Finals 1:17 or 1:14 in overtime Joseph Savon hear a lot of side Cedric Maxwell. Another episode is Cedric Maxwell podcast, man. There's a lot a lot to break down from this game one right down to start with the Jayson Tatum finish or I should say that autobio block classic block. Probably one of the greatest postseason blocks. I've seen or we can talk about this others approach Life game execution. What what stood out to you the most like, how did the Celtics get in that situation? I guess is the best way to start this. I mean, it's just up and down, you know, I think that you really looked at and you think about it either just kind of they were so up-and-down first started playing really well and then they hit those laws where they couldn't score the basketball and then they started up again and you looking and they really had some pretty dead. Performance is Brad Wanamaker played really well, and we're Kimba struggle. Brad played really well during that time and you know Marcus played. Well, I mean there was shit, but the song just seems so spotty from time to time whereas Miami collectively seem like they threw more at the Celtics and at the end of the day Jimmy Butler. He just really impose his will and won that game, you know, hitting that 3 then the Celtics tied up and then hitting another three. It was like he he Jimmy Butler's Jimmy Butler's is he dead? He's the attitude in the Cockiness of that team. Yeah, you know, it's easy to forget that three-point play right because man if if he doesn't convert that Kim Walker has the game-winner. Yeah, and now Walker is the number one guy at least a companion who is under scrutiny after game one because of his performance whereas things could have been a completely different had an you know, had it not been for for Jimmy Butler down the stretch. Well even that you know how hard that game was the Brilliance again, the Marcus Smart comes through Marcus Smart takes a a dead gets a dead ball foul with the suffix down by one. They hit home convert it now the Celtics have the ball with opportunity instead of being tied trunk. They had a chance to really to win it out straight as when that to me that it's one of those things that okay. I thought the Celtics were just Going to really you know, just key in and they were going to win it. Would you make it that last possession right before the end of regulation would take them? Yeah, we take them. I want it there to be more ball movement off. When a lot of ball movement to me and that's the key have to move the ball a lot better find opportunities for yourself to get towards the hole where you can get violate Jimmy Butler did I didn't have a big problem with the shot but I would have one that paid them to attack the rim when you attacked the rim like you did when you got the shot block opportunity to get found or once a month defense collapses. And that's we're seeing that many times with the Celtics in that particular game Jake Roberts standing out there by them collapse on the inside and then they knock down shots for a while. They just seemed like they were picking on Kimber. Yeah, like wherever Kimberly is that is that the game plan for sure. Absolutely. We're going to go right there, right? We're going to Jimmy Butler one-on-one. We got home. No Kimber under the basket with it or we're going to get a pick-and-roll in in the bottom. That's what they do. That's that's one of the things they've been doing over the last couple of years were great players you think about Cleveland? They beat Golden State every play. You can see current struggles. Their shelf was involved in that played defensively right almost every time you leave it at no man's land or he was on an island trying to guard Leah War they had pick-and-rolls to get him. The last shot was a pick-and-roll situation was still versus Kyrie and it seems like if you know if you were if you were suspect at all defensively in a series like that you have a Target on your yeah seems like Miami even the Celtics are going to pick up they're going to pick on you to you feel till you can you know, man up in that position and Via was like so many times we'd ride. She just went to the basket. He he was just attacking the rim and Kimber can get outscored by dry George like that because he's running through walls running it through that took the screening has completely that's completely rattled can buy think and it's it's a direct correlation to his offense. I think he's running out of energy. I think by the time he's on the offensive and and he's thinking oh, it's cardiac and what time does the Miami Heat are making them work even harder on that end as well, you know, I mean he tried to sort of, you know, take take care. I'll take the team on his on his back and it just wasn't wasn't that good faith was no place for him to go. They said a pic and now you had one man that Kimba had to be then he had another line of defense set in the background and then that's when a guy like Goldberg would would be so good for you because he gives you another option that you have to guard on the perimeter. Not only that but it's the ball start slowing down. Yeah. Yeah swimming a lot better wage. Yeah, but back to Jayson Tatum though. My thing is I think I'm completely agree with you. Right? I think he was worried about that too much that if he goes inside they're going to collapse on him and he has to kick it out. I think TJ wants that moment Taylor want to get that ball up Taylor wanted to make that shot. I really believe that and that's good. I like that. I like that comment on Prime Time Players, man. Exactly. They want the ball. And you said we've been saying only you're right you want them to have the ball. I mean how many times some people have been mad with LeBron James when he didn't take the shot him and he deferred and passed it to somebody took the wrong people forget somebody else who had a better shot. Yeah. That was a great basketball player. But your Natural Instincts as a leader as the Stars this league is to take that shot an exact who who is his role model his real mother was Kobe. When do we know Kobe will be passing me away that one time we think Kobe past when I always say, okay it was the time. Pass the ball The Shack that time for the dunk right and but to be erased the big comeback the big deficit over there. You don't even see you know what I mean? Think of Kobe being the passive where as long as several times Michael Jordan made that path. You might be made the past to Steve Kerr for him to get open jump shot pack off Paxton to get a jump shot that that's what those are good basketball players. So you're you're damned if you do and damned if you don't you take them, so I mean, it's almost like a no-win situation point he passes you shouldn't have passed through the man. He doesn't pass somebody's why though but you should have passed the ball shoulder so he couldn't he couldn't get on that so, you know him taking the shot didn't bother me, but that's a form of basketball player as a former Champion Max tell me I'm telling me I'm not wrong here if the game is tied down. Don't you have a little more urgency to take that shot thinking we got over time, you know, I can take your shocking afford to miss the shock when you're battling get your free load your free rolling. That's genetically you because you're not and that's what happened when Marcus took that charge Marcus took the charger get a free throw instead of being down by one. You're tied up your changes every so often changes the whole perspective of what you're doing out there. I always think of Paul Pierce. Rivers, you know that era basketball where it was at the game was tied. It didn't matter with real ones out there kg was out there Jake Paul. Most more than more times than not got that ball and it was up to him. And sometimes he find kg at the top of the key like he did in New York MSG. Maybe he'll find rain in the corner, right? I mean, but he makes a decision but but those are decisions to be made the thing that I wanted that to happen was I want to Jaylen Brown to me more involved in the game. I mean he I think he dead 14 shots thinking up with like 24 points or something took a lot of their shopping first and then it was like Tippy ins and you got a couple of rebounds, but I'd love to see him a lot more involved in a office in that fourth-quarter. You seem like it wasn't involved at all. Yeah. Well, I think I can maintain them. They got they got a little selfish. I think you know, there's a lot to be said there. I don't think it was just above those last shots at the end of regulation or at the end of OT. They should have been in that situation to begin with but obviously that starts in the defensive end though, right? I mean they have to buckle things down. I get it. They got Shooters they can put out a whole life of three point shooters and all those guys will knock one down it seem like it's what happened the fourth quarter, but you gotta get back. Where's that transition defense that we saw against the Toronto Raptors? I didn't see that game. Warden. Yeah. I mean wasn't the same mean wage they're running they want to run on your mistakes and you got to get back and we saw several times when Tatum wasn't in the play got knocked down on his hands up in the air off. Verge of going back the other way that those players are killers those Play zarkelley Tyler Rose going to make you pay Jake right? I was going to make you pay dragich hero. Yep. Duncan Robinson just gets off. He just warming up you just think of that Duncan Robinson starting to hee-ro didn't hurt. You knew one of those guys really hurt. You. Hee-ro had a big one. He had a big one. He had one big one came down the knock down the tray and I think the soil itself has got lost on that plane. Yeah, but for the most part those guys are hurt you is more like Jake Robert was the guy and then I don't need any wide-open. Yeah, Jay Crowder was wide open and then on top of that it was then it was Jimmy Butler. Yeah, Jimmy Butler just kind of took over and I mean that shows you again about the strength as he can in just went through Tatum for that. I mean he knocked him away and then he gets to the hoop and he froze up and then take them steal fouls him and he still gets the three-point shut off. Three to three point plays in that late night game which were different makers. Yeah. Oh absolutely one hundred percent and then you can forget the the stop that he made when you slap the ball loose and it woke up on the other end. I forget who had I think it was drugs on the other end button is those kind of plays man? That's the kind of team that they have, you know in Miami you can you can be they could be facing a 12-point deficit and they'll raise it in to me today or write down real quick. They are this is a petrol lie to you as much as they just going off. Yeah, we'll see him he was bumped off tonight and it was like, wow this and then this is account of teen that Pat Riley is always put on the floor when he's had Alonzo Mourning. When his head Patrick Dowling we've had those guys out there who were demons who wanted to you know, give their body and give it give it all you know, that's the same thing it has right now is my there's not a you think about their birth. You would not take not one of their players in the top fifteen players in this league. You wouldn't but collectively as a unit. They are they're they're kicking ass and taking the right, you know what else to if you brought someone in who didn't really watch basketball that much and you ask them who think the best player on this team. I think they'd all have different answers wage. You know, like that's the kind of team it is. I probably we can easily say it's Jimmy Butler, but he looked like the best Planet. We're at the end of the game twenty. Imagine most but dragons was probably right, right. Yeah it was he the first quarter on Thursday. Yeah. He was a guy that when the Celtics Were Here by twelve or thirteen dragons was the one that got them back in the game and you think about the big block that he had against Kimba. Can we trying to take a three now is a good thing about it? They challenge Miami Challenge, and it went to a job also got a backmarker still knocked down the three so you still got those payments back when it was still it seemed like it was going to be a bigger play than not wage. Well, I think with drug has reacted. I think that's what triggered the channel. Well, I think even with that even the way he reacted was the fact that he would have picked up another foul. Yeah. Oh, yeah, what did they have in their well, they'll be giving him a $5,000 and now he's limited and trying to guard out there on the floor this episode of the Cedric Maxwell podcast have brought to you by masterclass masterclass less you learn from the best with the exclusive access to online classes taught by masters of their craft. You can learn the art of negotiating with Chris Ross or take humor and personal essays with David Sedaris two courses that certainly helped me in my career as a journalist. And right now master came to help you they offer a wide variety of topics including over seventy five classes like game design and investigative journalism to name a few. It's also easy access to age. 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So you gotta put a body on him but wage I didn't mind him going small with all because because you had to have you have to guard multiple positions in this particular Series. Yeah off and I'm not sure if cancer can guard those guys out on the box out all the way from the box cuz I'm not sure if it's full speed is whereas, you know, he's going to use my defense rebound. But what will he give up defensively because Congress which right? Yeah, that's a good point. I agree with that, but I would like to see some cancer in game two. Yeah. I think he's he's worth it in this series and I guess what I meant by that I like is the the message behind that question for you was if they downsize isn't a situation do we this game any differently maybe ban is not dead dead dead late, you know, you know what how how know it's hard to say, right? It's hard to say cuz what what you know, Daniel's High School do is heat will he will hold off? That guy and not let him get over over there where it stays in probably would have more of a free rein how many times you've seen these guys just follow that Convoy as tight sets of pick-and-rolls in a row right behind a little girl. That was what what theis not been in the game that her but again, that was that was tight. So tight his own fault for you know having and you hate to see a guy on one of the a play like that. I don't allow by just having his hands on drunken friend dragons was smart. He went right into those hands fell on the ground and you lose that your tires and then your ties has been invaluable for what the Celtics are doing on both ends of the floor and Jog has been doing that for a long time. Yeah, August the kind of player to the he'll get you if you if you're under the hoop. He's trying to go under off before you think you're going to go uphill pop up sooner. If you put your hands when you put your hands body, he's going to pop up and draw. Yeah. 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I just think I would like to go to get brown a lot more raw and I want to know if I'm going to get anything at all from one night. I mean, I'm not how long Away for game three. I can't wait for game for you know, I can't wait to get behind all these games then they throw them in the mix. I got to see if I can give him five minutes ten minutes in the game to see how you still see how things go wrong, you know Fields if it doesn't feel good, you take them back out but you know his his presence on the court alone is going to open it up for gotta like him but to get towards the basket because he needs to be guarded right that's true. It's always announce that he's upgraded. So doubtful for game two. So little sign of Hope there. He's obviously been ruled out every single game since she's bought a jury in the very first game in the postseason. So there's there's still no no other updates, but we'll see what happens before tip-off. Of course. What about Kemba Walker? Are you concerned about him? Do you feel like he needs to be somewhat what we saw throughout the regular season because the playoff Kemba compared to regular season Kemba just not the same person. Right? Well, I think that you saw him in the first three or four games, you know again, Toronto he was playing really well and then that zone popped up and it changed his hotel or he he seemed confused on how to attack that zone. He got it back a little bit last name in the fourth quarter or what he was doing stopping in front of people stepping back during those things. So I'm not overly concerned. You know, Ray Allen went through a slump, you know, when he was off, you know when this other tune in in 08 he went through a slump of, you know, not being able to shoot the ball and here's a guy was one of the best shooters ever. So and those are hollyhocks, right? Yeah, I wouldn't wouldn't worry about it wage. 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Make sure you go to it your online wagering experts man after game 1 I do not know that game seven between the Clippers and the Nuggets was going to play out like that. But let me tell you this bags fourth-quarter. I believe they were down by age twelve or thirteen at this point. And I know it's easy to say that now and I know people were going to say, you know, oh, yeah, we all knew that but I just just looking at their body language. I'm like, they don't have it in them to make this comeback. Yeah, this team is done. Yeah, they they really did, you know, and it's the funny thing about it. Kauai didn't really play well, but it's really going to be on Paul George because Kauai is a proven fact in the playoffs cuz he's wanted, you know to follow that BP's with two different things to different things even I thought it might be this year. I thought may have a chance to make history even more so off with three different teams thought he he would, you know would step up to that level but he didn't but everybody right now is pointing fingers and saying, you know, Paul George, you know, you posed to be you know, play all people weren't playoff Eagles playoff, you know playoff D playoffs in around Thursday. Didn't do it was just so many guys so many people but and it's like, you know, it's like and as much as I love dark, it's like it didn't seem like they had a plan at all this money around in guarding, you know. Anybody on the post-war, you know or Harris or or anybody? It's like he told me to just play through. Yeah, and and and they just stayed they just didn't offer didn't have a clue. They didn't have a clue offensively didn't have a clue defensively and you think how good that team could be and you you got the fenders Beverly is a defensible. You you you Patrick beverley's Defender Kauai is the fender Paul George's Defender. They got other offenders out there the Williamsburg play didn't do what Louie's on me. I think that's what most frustrating for Clippers fan. It's like you get two of the probably the the best two-way Wings you can get the same team and then finally is the phone number you together and I think it was also driving fans crazy as all season long. And these guys have been saying all the way through the playoffs before the playoffs. Yeah, you know load management. Yeah, the starting line had some played a whole lot of games together, but we'll be fine. We'll figure it out. There's job. On happens what four or five players aren't even there. You know what you know what I mean? Like I just think they there's this culture with the Clippers. Where's to free? You know, there's no jobs have been in to leave forever and they've never made the finals. That's crazy. That's what Conference Finals but yeah Prince. My answer was their year the make the Conference Finals home Max have been seven years since you don't have to deal with the Clippers. Yeah. Yeah. This isn't the first time we've seen one of his team's blow through one League. Yeah, if you're the Clippers, I mean you having that conversation, right? Yeah. Do you stick with dog or do you look up who I went there man? That's that's interesting. So strong case. It's a strong case. I think I think right now. with his resume and things going on in the world is no way you can find that Quivers. No way after after his statement black lives matter. There is no way that you can fire Doc Rivers. Okay. I just don't believe we can. All right, you know that reason I got another reason. I think because everyone's under contract because the circumstances because of this adversity. You know, I call it the two and one we got going on as well the two seasons in one year feels like right off they can pick this thing up and just so you know what let's go through our mistakes and figure this thing out but if your Clippers Management you do you guys believe in Duck. I'm having a serious conversation with these guys is. Where are off with Doc? Like do you feel like there's that's a disc. I've got that got on the come there. Would you okay? What would you do? Who's your replacement? That's that's that's an interesting question because she knew that the first person that comes to mind, but you have to he has to figure out what he wants to do because he's not the equipment wouldn't be the only wage job on the table, but not the most attractive offer if I'm tie a loop. I think I think I take it. You know, I thought he was going to the Mets but obviously Steve Nash's the new head coach there. So we'll see how that pans help but Max is shaking his head with a big smile right now because he hasn't I just usually about that off cuz I even with a degree Steve Nash taking and giving Steve Nash two jobs. Some people went on with well, you know, he's not he was now the coach, you know, you should have hired a black coach wage. They should have but I just don't like it for your first head coaching job to take a job like that, which is is the nut color of nudging only thing that isn't isn't worse than that if you with the Knicks, but you're in New York. You got a Primo team. You're in Brooklyn. You got two guys at the top Divas. It'll leave two guys. I was saying something about somebody today I said, you know John Phillips, who was Grease Monkey at the Grease Pig tweeted out something by Kevin Garnett and Kevin Durant Kevin Durant took it back. If you so sensitive about social things people talking about if you're witty enough you'll get off on Sunday because it's raining here that that's that's what is crazy about it. You don't have to be like, you know, efficient model. You don't have to be don't have to be pragmatic. So you have to be somebody you can make sideways. You can just be somebody from grade school coming up with something witty about Kevin Durant and he's going to he's he's just too and now he's in New York of all places. Good luck man. You're in New York where they you know, he's going to be father all the time for the Gods. Up in this social page. I'm exciting Kyrie's. This is the new reality show for us man. S going to be starts just before Christmas Manson guess. I mean everything else up before Christmas. I really don't believe so.

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"Dude, your nose is bleeding. Yeah. I think it might still be believing. What happened? I thought I had good seats at a game that was stuck in the four hundred that was three days ago. They were super high up. I felt like I was somebody Everest look next time just go to vivid seats, tickets are one hundred percent authentic, and you can even see where your seat is before you buy it can't believe I'm going to say, this your genius. Well, you welcome. I kind of am we're on the earn ten minutes. Maybe we should get that Kleenex out of your nose. Sports on right now on the Collins with news out of the NBA negotiations between the Lakers and Tyler have ended sources telling you that Liu and his team turned down the Lakers offered to make him the next head coach. According to our insider Agent, Orange and Ascii the team offered a three year deal. But Lou one at five. I think the Lakers thought was there's no marketplace for him right now. Nobody else is trying to hire him. He's not been a candidate for other jobs that have opened although Cleveland's one of them. He just got fired from their he's not going to go back there. But but if a fourth year might have gotten this done and now you're really scrambling. Does it make sense, but they must they must think that they can still come up with a coach to satisfy all the people that got to satisfy in that in that organization. What would you also reported that the Lakers management wanted to have a say in hiring news assistant coaches for more? Let's get you back to I take. So the Lakers still don't have a head coach the mess gets Messier tie Lou in the Lakers are added impasse. You just heard max. I know it's your team. But are they just a laughing stock at this point? Yes, they're laughing stock right now. Of course, they are the force that Tai Lue was. Lebron James is going to get as coach if you know what you're doing. Magic didn't hire Luke Walton you knew that meant that Luke Walton had to be not just good but great in order to keep his job. That's the way. It works. Newseum comes in. They want their guy. But in addition to that LeBron didn't want him there or not pleased with LeBron's denials or his camps denials. Everyone knows everyone knows the coach LeBron did want the guy that was brought in to replace David Blatt that helps coach them to the championship. Did really good job pyro who's going to be LeBron's coach on the Lakers. We all knew this and Tyron Luna would sort of bring a minute their ports that he's being dictated who to put on his staff and some of the names. Yes. Would you like me to interject to give you the info lease where you go on to give you the go ahead. I mean, I have my own info. But I'd like to report it three years. Six million dollars. Luke Walton had a five year deal. Derek Fisher had a five year deal. Steve Clifford had a five year deal. David physio had a five year deal. So when you came to him with the three. A year deal. It was very insulting to him. That was one thing. The other thing was you try to get him to pick his staff you try to mandate that Kurt Rambis would be his associate head coach. He's boys with Brian short. They go back a long ways he was who's on Luke Walton staff tyrod Tyler would one that would have wanted to retain him. They wouldn't allow him to do that right now all of those things. This is what I'm getting to the even the names that were supposed to be the guys who had to be on Tyler staff. Those names are basically failed head coaches who to one degree or another who are there to try to take this guy's job. But beyond that, look, Stephen. I don't mind. This is why they're laughing stock and you kept talking about this. If Linda Rambus Kurt went Rambus, his wife is best friends with genie bus and so-. Kurt Rambis has undue influence in the organization. You wanna the truth? Stephen that to me that doesn't make you a laughing stock doesn't make you a laughing. If some former player, he's really having an influence on his former organization won championships with what makes you a laughing. Stock is this guy doesn't know what he's doing. That's the problem. Kurt Rambis was ninety nine games under five hundred is a head coach, you know, why? Because he's living in an NBA from thirty years ago that doesn't exist anymore when he had Kristaps Porzingis seven foot three and can shoot from the outside, but skinny and young. And maybe you want to be careful in terms of injuries and fatigue, and all those kinds of things I want I want this guy to be posting up more, but he can shoot the three coach have you noticed how this league works nowadays? No, I wanna posting up more. What he was like the worst player in the league practically well, but he's toll Kerr his doesn't know what he's talking about in this NBA. I wouldn't compare my basketball knowledge to his of course. But in this NBA, he clearly doesn't know what he's doing. So if that guy is advising you he wants to put guys on tie loose staff that also don't know what they're doing in the modern MBA. It does enter there to try to take Tyler's job. Stephen. It doesn't make sense if I'm tied Lou right now, I'm like this if the Lakers don't get titled their complete laughing stock they got he has a mover a barrel. Say what Luke Walton get I want more than that. And I'm going to choose my own staff or see later that's going by the way. If he does that you think the bronze not gonna demand to trade? Well, first of all, you're wrong. They're not a laughing stock it you'll living proof of the because you look like, you're ready to cry. And I've been crying Lakers thing stock the lake the link is a disaster right now. And they're disaster. Because. They're just dysfunctional. They've been dysfunction of years. And I don't think it's an accident. That sense their dad, Dr Jerry Buss department from us he passed away, Dr Jerry Buss, he he passed away in two thousand and thirteen. They haven't made the playoffs since I don't think that's an accident. Now when we look at it. We have to understand the magnitude of what's going on here. You're in town go the clippers are coming. Let's be clear the clippers are coming. You know, this and on top of it all it's primarily because they have an owner with the deepest pockets in the league's the bombers worth more than thirty million thirty billion dollars. And so you know that and your response to that from a competitive standpoint is the triumph penny pitch. You know, you got you the offer Monty Williams a three year deal. You offer time Lou. But three you deal. What could you? Possibly be thinking about Magic Johnson walks out on you, and doesn't even give you a call let you know, he's doing so LeBron James if there's any truth to the scuttle, but then he was in Philly trying to recruit kuwa-, and that there's a chance that can why was willing to come to the Lakers instead of the clippers understand how profound that is. Because if a why would have come to the Lakers, it's a double whammy because you were worried about him going to the clippers you take all of these things into consideration. And your response is too low bowl and alienate, Tai Lue, why because you are frayed you don't want this to be perceived as LeBron James team like it was in Cleveland like he's running organization. Well, guess what? At this particular moment in time. He should because what's your what what's this competition? Linda, rampant Kurt Rambis, rob Pelinka, watch should it. Lebron v run an organization if that's what your competition. Is this all of these things that have been ignored by the Los Angeles, Lakers, and Jeanie Buss are very decent and nice person. And obviously business savvy obviously on a business, but admittedly, having very little to do with basketball. What could you possibly be thinking? And to Phil Jackson. Let's be very clear first of all that's Bill Jackson's and upgrade from Linda rabbits, occurred, Rambus Orapa -lica-. But we all know what? Phil Jackson wasn't an executive. Now. Don't get me started. I'm in a very good mood. Don't get me started with what he did to the net. You also couldn't come up. He also couldn't keep up with the changes in the NBA. You bet. You know, what I would do Stephen? I'd pick up the phone. I call Jeanie Buss. I'd be like check this out higher Tyler do now or I'm coming out publicly in demanding a trade, and if I were tied Lou I would tell them on picking my own staff blow balling me. Well, he hangs over fences already told him that right? And now LeBron needs to back that up if he wants his coach like what I don't understand is. Why does LeBron care if the perception is that he's a coach killer or he's really calling the shots. He shouldn't be calling the shots. Maybe not in an organization like Miami with a strong head like Pat Riley championship coaching, all that in a strong culture. But in any other situation LeBron should be calling the shots. You shouldn't be shy about it. I should call the owner and say gives me coach hold that thought. Because it's something that I want you to think about here max. If LeBron James, and let me be very very clear folks in his camp folks, close to tie, Lou swear that his relationship with Todd Lou is great. He wants Tyler to be the coach, etc. If what you just suggested because I suggested the same thing last night on sports, and I'm telling you right now, you're absolutely right on the money. If LeBron doesn't suggest that max men. Do we sit up here and have a legitimate, right? To ask whether or not LeBron James really wants Tyler. 'cause it eight they're hard to do what you suggested it ain't that hard to pick up the phone. Now, it ain't that hard to tell Jimmy Jeanie Buss what pay this man giving us five years. Let them pick a staff, and it ain't that hard for him to say I didn't sign up for this. Magic as supposed to be here. Exciting. That's going to do. This was going to watch this then watches. Here's an easy remedy to what you just said. Lebron should pick up the phone and tell Jeannie higher whichever coach LeBron wants were I'm going to demand a trait. How's that like just make LeBron? That's not what a master. You know, what I'm saying to you Matt saying if he didn't do it, right? Doesn't do that much. Tell you about how much he wants. Hi, lou. Right. I'm saying if that's the case and he's not supporting tie Lou. Like that that may that may say that indeed. But then I would say choose the coach you want, and if he's not willing to do any of it that means he's more concerned about the way he's perceived then getting what he needs. So maybe he's trying to do. It hasn't has about the Lakers. Now, we'll change. It's got to leave it there with may twelfth coming up and only a few days I've had to make this my final gift reminder last one mother's day is coming up everybody. Don't wait until the last minute. Make sure you show your mom how much you appreciate her. If you're wondering how the checkout edibles dot com and arrangements can make anything from chocolate dipped. Strawberry boxes, all the way to handcrafted fruit arrangements. They're so delicious, easy to share. And they bring the party together. Not to mention edible only uses high quality ingredients. No matter what you get. 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I catch a couple of the games to play Jared Dudley in the house. Thank you so much for being here to be here. We're going to have some fun. Yes. All right, guys. So you just heard it warriors win, but may have lost Kevin Durant for the remainder of the series. Durant will have an MRI today. And what the team is calling a right calf injury. Steve Kerr till they had let it that. He doesn't expect K D to play in game six tomorrow night maximum. He ask you this who is more pressure on them now with Durant's injury. Would it be James harden or Steph curry it's a great question because they both facing a lot of pressure, but the answer is James heart. Yeah. Now, James, okay. Yeah. You're down a game. But you're going home. You're supposed to win that game. And then let's talk about a game seven game six right now. It's obviously James harden every time I wanna see your it comes with harden. He's going to he's going to get it done. You want to disappointed this last season reaches playing, even you know his team was missing twenty seven consecutive threes. But at least they were kind of still in the game James team needs you to shoot better than two for thirteen. You know, like they need June now to do something. Now's the time fate of the universe on the lot. The martians got the death beam pointed in earth, if you hit the shot, we live if you miss we die earth has gone if James Harden's taking the shot first of all he might not take the shot. He'd be looking at the rest of the intergalactic rests to bail them out. I mean, you're hope that so so hard at least us playing defense. Maybe it will get better. And then this you saw little signs. Yeah. He he dribbled out of bounds. And then missed the three looked for the rest of bail amount and didn't win game to even though that was close but game three they didn't go to him in regulation at the end. They knew they couldn't trust them. But at least in overtime, he hit the three when they were up three. That's not the same thing as time the game. But still. Well, it was a good shot. He recovers any had a big game for oh, maybe hardens arrived. Maybe the rockets can do it. The last ten minutes of a game when you're crime partner. CPA three is not hitting shots. Ten minutes. You take one shot after katie's out. Now's your chance the game on the road. You're going to have to win one at oracle to win. The pressure is on James Hardie James are the MVP or one of the two every single year until it matters, most it matters most right now while before Jerry before you go, Jerry because I think you need to you know, you can you can close the argument, but I will tell you I agree with max. But not for the reasons that Max's pointed out, I look at James harden, he shot five nine for in the second half. He needs to shoot more. There's no question about it. I think C P three has got to do his job. If the silicate opportunities for James harden and those kinds of situations when he's getting blitz doubled. And Steve Kerr's prioritize getting the ball. Out of this hands at all costs. This is what what makes the greatness of seed, Pete three that much more probable. You've got you gotta sees moments like this in terms of being a floor general, but I will tell you the other thing in terms of it being Steph curry James hot. And clearly his James harden. But this is the biggest reason why Steph curry could explode, and they could still lose because of the absence of depth. We noted this warriors team is not what it used to be in terms of depth. You have boogie cousins down now. Kevin Durant down Audrey Igwe dollar playing. But older Shaun Livingston is a shell of what it used to be loved the guy. Appreciate what he's done over his career. But the bottom line is he doesn't appear to be the same player physically Andrew bogut. He's not getting minimum minutes in a series like this. So when you look at the absence of depth, you're relying on three guys in clay, Draymond staff, and obviously Kevin Durant. Kevin. To rent Draymond. And clay all average over forty minutes. The only reason why Steph average less was because a foul trouble. That's not going to be the case. Now, he's gotta stay out of foul trouble. And he's going to have to log at least forty minutes, he can drop forty. He can draw fifty and they could still potentially lose in the case of James harden. This is an entirely different ballgame. Because of what we expect it from Houston last year what they say they did it deliver. Because of an injury to see Pete three. Now, see P three is healthy with audit. And Kevin Durant is out. There is no excuse at all for Houston not to win this series. That is a mess pressure on both of them. Obviously. That means Hardin they got to get it done game. Six to me as a foregone conclusion game seven at the oracle without Kevin Durant. If he doesn't play which I don't believe he will. Because I believe that's an achilles. I personally believe that don't know it. But I believe it will see what they have. We're going to see what they do. They got to deliver. Period. We all agree on harden. Not only is it most pressure on heart. I don't think it's been another athlete. NBA players had this much purchase. Lebron the Miami days for sure the thing about horridness the difference between him and Steph curry now only does he have to score he has to create for Capella who struggle this crate for PJ Tucker Shumpert even Austin rivers at times, they about Kerr he has dream on their to do all the little things for him. There's no excuses last year with CPS hamstring this year. It's on hard it in the Houston Rockets. The revson was game one. Okay. Maybe game to a call go either way. They're at home. They should win this game by double digits without Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is not playing interested in this series. I have I missed game to Philly. I would be thoroughly progressive heat ways. And the way he lived there. We thought God forbid heating, obviously, tears. Achilles. All praying at home for that for this game. Huge for this huge legacy built for James harden. I don't know how he would live this down losing the Steph curry and Golden State without. Kevin Durant, man. This show would have a field day. Warriors, seven and a half point favorite that the largest they've ever been in the playoffs and in any run for that game six and Houston guys is if fair to write the warriors off without K D, Stephen. I think so I think so it is fair to write them off because of the two things the absence of depth that they have alone. What our expectations were of Houston, max Kellerman and a whole bunch of his cohorts throughout this nation have been bloviating for the last eight nine months or so damn near year. Houston wins the title if the three doesn't go down and game five last year. Houston beats Golden State. They go on to be Cleveland Dade win. The chip it was because see Pete three went down. Obviously they're shooting in game. Seven didn't help missing twenty seven consecutive threes. But C P three goes down. Well, not only is he healthy. But last year when they should have won that was against a healthy. Kevin Durant with Draymond clay and staff now. Kevin Durant is out your bitch is depleted. All right and see pre three and heart and healthy. There's no excuse. That's nice. Do there. There is an excuse. I mean, there's no I agree hardened should get it done. There's a lot of pressure on him. But now, I'm gonna take the other side of the argument as it relates to Steph. It's not that it's impossible for Golden State to win number one. They're up three games to two and they still have home court. That's number one. So as I told you even if you think they're better than. Two one favorites say they're seventy percent likely to win the next game Houston and their seventy percent likely to go to Golden State and win a game seven if they win a game six seven times seven forty nine. That means they're under fifty fifty to win both games. That's the way probability works. They're less likely to win than they are to lose more likely to lose this series. Even if they're huge favorites in both games because they staked a really good team to an extra game. And that team has home court now consider what that team has Steph curry MVP have an MVP on team still Klay Thompson all star and VPN an all-star Draymond green all star MVP into all stars Andre Igwe dollar finals MVP you mean to tell me the fourth best player on your team is a former finals MVP who can still defend and hit clutch shots. And by the way, make good decisions with the bowl handle the ball. You mean to tell me that your fourth best player, but you can't get it done stake to a one game lead. Basically the next to get on base. The next two games of women Asian Games for the rockets. No, this ain't over for for Golden State without K D J Jared Dudley. Do you know what max Kellerman says Deger? What did he do if I'm James harden? I'd wanna give max Kellerman a hug, he just let him off the hook. He just he just wanted out a whole bunch of reasons why Houston could lose this. Yes. The series down to what's going on. Rene? You know, you're gonna hate this on rider with max Kellerman on this. Well, the reason why I'm winding within this one is Steph curry is in the MVP these still have homecourt advantage. You telling me this man him and Klay Thompson can't get how one game and be a little bit. Now, we're talking about winning championship. I'll with you to win one game in this series. They can now to be honest. I watch his show regularly. They no one that's more a bigger critic than masculine on. James harden? He's going to rip him if they lose especially without Katie. But you're telling me if I got home court advantage don't work or one of the highest places to play to win. I still have Steph curry and Klay Thompson Ingrid dollar during my I can't win one game on my home for now. You're you're confusing narrative. My brother what I am saying you Jared is that wait a minute. If Jared Dudley is all get up or he's sitting there doing one of his interviews and articulating himself as well as he does. And if max Kellerman is sitting there talking about James audit. And everybody's looking at Houston and saying this is me y'all go win the chip if C P three didn't go. Down. My point is I'm taking that argument and saying that you how does it now make sense to go against that theory when Kevin Durant is out there is questionable and C P three with James harden in this healthy. I'm not saying if you can I say. Hold on. I'm not saying Golden State can't win. I'm saying based on y'all arguments in favor of Houston. How do you they turn around and say, it's tooth me. Golden State could easily win this. They reports. So you'll understand it. It says though, it's as though you needed to beat me in two arguments to win to win the show. Right. And I had a stroke. So I was at a disadvantage, it would still be very difficult for you to win. Both those arguments. If you want to achieve with that one. Waiting for him to win an argument. But that's neither here nor there this out, right? He's my brother this. Okay. Guys Jared sticking around with us. A new state farm drive safe and save app could get you a discount up to thirty percent for good driving. But it's date. Farm radio ad gets you one hundred percent discount on this classic. Why would do? Just count up to thirty percent with dry states and sage just. Just some. Not available in all states. Hi, res days at Boston may officially be over after the Celtics get bounced by the bucks Irving has a player option for next season. But he's expecting to opt out making him an unrestricted free agent. Kyrie was asked about his big summer after the game last night. I'm just trying to get back to Boston. I, you know, safely. Get see my family decompress, do what human beings do plenty of people. Here are speculating about your future. And certainly this summer did uncertainty over that way on you in any way in this. No. We're going to start with the player perspective. I that wouldn't be you Jared Dudley. What should Kyrie's priority be this off season when he? I think Boston's a great situation for them. They have the assets to go get another superstar player to revamp the team, maybe a couple of trades because a lot of young guys in Cambridge street. But for him, it seems like he wants to go to the big City New York, y'all between the nets and the Knicks. But if I were kyri me personally, you have a good organization that you already have right there. Yeah. One of the best GM's when the best coaches one of the best fan basis. I'm staying there. I'm retooling, and I think this was his first year trying to be a leader. It's a big jump from being a second guy. Lebron to having the lead of franchise. And I think that was some growing pains something that he can learn on. But it's a big task from go from the second from from Robin to Batman is different different personality, and you got to you dealing with the younger generation that are playing video games, and how you have to relate to them that locker room. And I think that the lot for him to learn, and I think that this is a huge learning Stephan. Instead of just, you know, getting out I was stayed there. But if not man there's there's a lot of people who. Clued in this. I think we saw Kyrie's last game in Boston. I don't think that he really really wants to be there anymore, and to be quite honest with you. I don't think the Boston Celtics really really want him that bad. I think they'd much rather take his dollars and give Roggio less than half that and keep him then pay kyri max dollars, which is what his talents going to command and bring kyri on board. I think this situation in terms of how the season on folded because even though I disagree in terms of what the priority was that led to Boston's demise. I'm not absolving, Kyrie Irving in any way from his role in the demise. And Tacoma Nate with the performance that he had against a Milwaukee Bucks is so glaring. Although no one would question is talent nor his greatness in terms of an individual being an individual talent. I think the way he's looked at now. Now is that he can't be the number one option on your franchise. If you're trying to win a championship. He can't be the quote unquote leader because he hasn't proven. He can do that yet. There's a reason he's been talking to LeBron James. There's the reason he's been talking to various guys that have started in the NBA over the years who have been in leadership positions because he's realized that as far tougher than he ever imagined. So he'll go someplace else, whether it's one of the New York teams or L A or someplace like that to get his money. But I think that right now the. You know, the belief about kyri is that he is a superstar basketball talent. But not a someone who should be the number one option and the face of your franchise if you're trying to win a championship. And I don't think anybody knows that better than Boston. So I don't think Boston is any longer on option for him or the Boston Celtics. Kyrie's has gotta get his mental. Right. That's what that's what the off season should be about for him. Look just as Mark Jackson pointed to Embiid and said his skills. I'm not gonna greatness what he's accomplished but his skills at his size at his girth. It his his ability to shoot, which is great. But it's good for a guy that size post moves defend and beat is as skilled as anyone who ever played the position you understand that high re Irving when you really think about skills is in the conversation for most skilled player who ever lived, and he's very athletic. He can shoot the lights out from three he can finish in the under the rim. I would say he's the number one finisher in the history of. A game in the pain hunger the rim. He is an excellent passer when he chooses to be his handles, probably the greatest of all time like Iverson two point. Oh because he could build on what I ever did. So why don't you better plan? That's that's mental. It's not just leadership. I had a very smart executive. We were communicating the other day. And he said you can't be a great player. If you take more than half your shots from the least efficient part of the court, and you don't even convert them at a high enough clip like Kobe Bryant when I was arguing Stephen about Kawai under pressure versus Kobe. Kobe is the greatest bad shotmaker ever. So everyone remembers him as making these incredible shots under pressure. But in fact, those are really hard shops. And if you convert them better than everyone else, he's still ain't going to convert them a lot right Kawai just gets himself. Good shots. So he converts the more often, even though they're not as miraculous Kyrie's like Kobe. He does incredible things. Oh my God. Did you see that? But that's not as good as a. Who could just go get himself a high percentage shot? And here's the crazy thing about Kyrie. He's totally capable of. It gets it where every once on the court. He got the best. I just said he had the best handles ever. He's fast he finishes. Well, he shoots it. So if for him the priority should be get his head to gather play the right way, he is playing in Seoul, inefficiently Ted. He's taking the maybe the most skills ever. And he's something less than an MVP player. And in fact, that's one part. And the other part is what you guys talk about his teammates don't like to play with him. It's all about the mental for kyri. Steve Abbott question for you. Because you guys like Hardin that struggled in the playoffs before I remember the Spurs series. And then over the course of their career they get better at and now we're looking at hard to deliver. You don't think someone like high re whereas really his first year because he was hurt last year to have to deal with this. You don't think that if he possibly stayed or even the next thing he goes through and he's been number one guy that he can't mold in each year. Become. Eventually be a number one a one b with another star player to win. No, no. I'm not saying that he can't be. I'm saying that, you know, this better than me as somebody that has been in a position to negotiate contracts and set to Accenture I'm telling you what the league is thinking about him at this moment in time, and what will be held against him. So what I'm saying to you is that even though I look at his talent. And I believe in echo, everything that max said, and I'm listening to you in terms of what he can be the bottom line has been the Goshi ations are this summer and the backdrop is what just happened to you gets Milwaukee and what happened to you throughout this season. So those things are going to be held against him. Because then going to be the stigma that's used to somewhat question. What is via -bility is and whether or not he's the right guy for your franchise you'll want him there. But you'll want someone else with him because you'll feel better about it. Based on what you saw this year. That's all I'm saying, no very fair. And I think the one thing with Boston compared to any other team is that assets with that Memphis could be unprotected in two years and the clippers pig, I think even saying minnows pickers then kings, right? They can go get someone. And so that you and and with Dany age. I mean, I think we all agree man when it comes to his draft and skills and build a make trades. He's one of the best in the business. I just see it could be a mistake. I mean, obviously, that's why you might not need kyri because you have the wreck of the parts already in place would potentially four first round picks Janet I'm surprised I'm surprised just because like there's no coming back from what just happened is. There isn't it pretty clear that for Tatum to develop looks like you could be the centerpiece ofensive -ly of a really really good team for these young cats develop. Kyrie's gotta get outta the right? It looks like. Nine. He stayed back. This say. I'm agreeing with you, Stephen. I'm saying I'm surprised by Jared steak. Well, the reason why is because you could you could trade Tatum for Anthony Davis. So then so might think to you need superstars and win in this league. You lose a superstar you sign Rosiere to sixty seventy million you still need one or two guys get over the hump or you can just go to the other New York team, and they can build around in there. And you have a fresh perfect on the Knicks baggy hilarious. Right leg. Something happened. Tried to walk it off. Kevin durant? Go right to the locker room. So sure it's the calf to cap strain feeling. So it's hard to remove yourself from thinking about your team. Major brother soldiers worried about. Teammate the entry like I mean, I look like it was way worse than the caps right for all obviously disappointed for him. On this incredible. Well, for you hate to see anybody down, especially somebody who we note world and. You know, we we want know. Best shot. All right. Here's the news everybody. Kevin Durant injured his right of first Hywel Cain. We'll see you're like family. So I forget to introduce you his calf in the warriors win. And then Steve Kerr said Katie will get an MRI today, and he told the athletic that he's unlikely that will Katie will play in game six are than it really makes sense. And then important to note that the warriors are twenty nine and four when Steph curry plays in K D doesn't now we asked you all on social media. If k d can't go in the warriors still win the chip. It was fifty fifty a split Stephen A. I will ask you that can the warriors win a championship without Durant. No not this year. No way. I don't see it. I don't see them beating the Milwaukee without Kevin Durant. No way. I don't believe that matter of fact, I don't see them getting out of this series against Houston. Now, the caveat out with I would tell you James harden CPA three they have never been under more. Pressure in their careers than they are over these next two games to have CPT three healthy. And even though you're down three to know. Kevin durant? No depth on the part of the Golden State Warriors. And you can't be the Golden State Warriors. After all this talk about how CPI threes, injury course Jolla championship last year. They will never ever live it down. If they don't close the deal with these next two games with Kevin Durant out. I'm telling you right now, they won't happen. So I'm not even getting to the finals because I don't believe Golden State will be Milwaukee. I thought they would have a low to deal with if Kevin Durant was healthy against the walkie without him. I don't give the warriors a chance to feel the exact same way up till no chance I thought Milwaukee had a chance to run the table this year, even with a healthy K D, but you'd have to make golden. State the favorites because you pile up the talent so high at a certain point it gets on fair, and that's what the warriors have done. But let's remember before Katie ever got there. They want championship. Okay. Lebron his crew was hurt. And then when Ron got his crew back he beat them how ever his crew consisted of not just him. But also, kyri Irving and Kevin love and they've been playing together for a while by that time, and it went seven games and it came down to like the last possession of the game. So to say the warriors, and there was at oracle to say the warriors don't have a chance they have an MVP player in Steph curry, they have all star, and Kevin Durant sorting in Klay Thompson, they have an all star in Draymond green and their fourth. Best player is a finals MVP who truth be told even with the healthy K D if it was a wide open shot game on the line. And I had to choose one as a warriors fan folk been enough on I want isn't meat. I take that zero. But you I'm I'm just talking like ten twenty. I'll give them a very minimal. Here's then definitive there. Stephen now, you did plea pretty close like ten percent. I mean, an exposure by both clay and stuff I would say under Finn. I says Dita win. They're under fifty fifty to win without Katie how much I feel. That's how the how. Well, I think of Milwaukee. I think the bucks can be that good. But let's see if brogden who looked good last night can sustain this. He's coming off an injury. Let's see if this whole thing can gel, right? I think it will. But I think the warriors are very live maximum with you. I think they definitely can. I mean, they have. So it's hard to say they can't when they have done it before they're not going to be the favorites in. I don't think I would pick them not only against the Milwaukee Bucks NBA finals. But I think we're all three looking over the Western Conference finals, let's say they get past Houston and they've got a game advantage on Houston. So that seems very possible you're going to have to go up against the very good Denver team or Damian Lillard and the Portland trailblazers. I'm not sure how I'd. Pick that series yet. But I do know this Stephen I give them more than ten percent chance to go heads up against the nuggets, and then against the bucks to do it when they already have. And I would ask you this. What's changed? I hear you on the depth. That's real right? The death. That's real. But what's changed from a few years ago? You feel like you honest, and the bucks are just different than where the Cavs were a couple years ago while I think it's the combination of of a couple of things I think I think Jaanus and the box are real and live. But I also don't believe that the Golden State Warriors this presently constituted without K D is the team that they had let you know a few years ago when they wanna championship without Katie you had an Andrew bogut who was younger. You had a Harrison Barnes who was younger you had an Audrey equal dollar, and the Shaun Livingston who was younger you even had a Boris Diaw while coming off the bench and use up production. I am saying to you. They're not that team anymore. It's really the starting lineup. That is the Golden State Warriors. And without and boogie cousins is out obvious. So without all of that. I view them. Let me be very clear. I don't give them a fifty percent chance against Houston. I believe I believe I believe against Houston out. Putting the pressure on James harden and St. Pete three I'm talking about. What's supposed to happen? We can't happen. Houston is supposed on witness series here. Disagree because they're down a game. And they don't have home court. They haven't won on the road yet. But I think we'll brings up a very good point not about Portland. I don't think Portland would match up well with them in fact in spite of Damian Lillard brilliance. Denver Denver's a problem because they're susceptible to a big anyway and Yokich is the best right now and can can hurt you in a variety of ways. But in addition to that Denver is a deep team and their home court is at elevations. I'm not saying Denver would beat the warriors. But the fact that the warriors are going at least six if not seven with Iraq. It's even if they win and then with likely have to play Denver in. What would probably be a grueling see in terms of the energy they'd have to expand your right? Stephen A. If you combine the two year points for eight kind of not deep team than by the time, they get to the Eastern Conference. They will be ripe for the picking. And I think they'd be picked either by Milwaukee. Or Theron, can I make this point state a less than ten percent chains of winning it all I? Don't see. I one thing. I agree with you on Stephen did. I think it needs to be underlined is the pressure on Houston. I've been hard on Houston. I don't love their style of basketball. However, I give great respect to Houston. Mike Greenberg is talking about this in an era where everyone else has shrunk away from Golden State and said our window is years out. Houston said we'll go all in now. And I totally respect Houston taking the fight to Golden State. But the pressure is on to do it. Now, this is Golden State did the you a year ago when you lost CPI three they want to in a row now Golden State's loss K D And James harden and CB three you have to step up and win two in a row. This is the moment that Houston has been preparing for this is what it was all been about and your rights evening history is going to judge this moment, non harshly. It's not enough to only not shoot. Once in the final ten minutes for harden. You also have to hit it. You gotta match you gotta may not go. Can I go to route a money for second? That's the sixty five million dollar per year. Back court. I I'm so adamant about what Houston should do based on. And we'll please remember this. It's based on what everyone was saying was supposed to happen last year. CPA three had not gone down that combined with what we've seen from them this year to lose. Kevin durant? There is no excuse. And to me if Houston, I'm so adamant about this. If Houston doesn't get this done. I gotta admit to you. If I'm an owner in the National Basketball Association, I'm looking at dollars and cents from now on I'm tired of the market says this guys were twenty five or thirty million or thirty five million dam, neck user, this is when you supposed to show what you you cannot. You don't k- d you cannot get showing off. By showing up freak is showing up guys are showing up. Some guys are some Houston in this series. Breath through these playoffs. You see who shows up? Let me get let me get to your team. So Tyler in the Lakers ended talks without a deal to become the team's next head coach. According to our Adrian modes and rescue the Lakers offered him a contract in the range of three years eighteen million dollars. But he wanted a five year deal. Stephen King doesn't get his guy. How does LeBron need to respond after this? You know, full wants me miracles do happen in life, and certainly miracles do happen on this show. I almost never agree with most things that max Kellerman says, but in this, particular instance, I not only agree with some of what he said, I agree with all of it. Max Kellerman said, quote, he should pick up the phone LeBron James, call genie bus and say signed tie, Lou. And if you don't sign tie Lou to beat the next head coach for the Los Angeles Lakers. I am going to ask publicly to be traded from the Los Angeles Lakers. I really believe that something along those. And if it's not Tyler please don't get me wrong. Even though I like Thai Lou, and I think he should be the coach because he has the credentials. If you decide to go to route of some of the respectable coach out there that LeBron likes and respect. I don't mean Thai. Lou literally, he would be my first choice for this circumstance. But if you go another route with someone LeBron likes fine. But I would insist that it has to be someone he likes he respects he approves up. And if you don't do that. I am going to demand publicly to be traded. Max Kellerman is actually right about that. And that's what I think LeBron first of all before I respond, Molly. When you said, let's talk about your team who are you talking about whose team is the Lakers max, oh, that's his team max. No. He's a nice. You can't do this. It's against the rules. No, no, no, wait a minute. We don't actually against was very clear about. Spend forty years team your switch. If this is embarrassing moment for you. This is a local guy disagree. It was a high moment. I got the root for a winner. For awhile. However, I grew stealing. You're right. I would frame this a different way we talk a lot about wasn't that LeBron's in control how much influence he has on an organization. Well, if he didn't have control of the situation if he didn't have influence, take it take control first of all, I don't think tight Lou can be done. Stephen. I don't think you can save face on that particular name this particular situation, but take control of the coaching. Search secondarily make sure you take control of the free agency. Search and third if you cannot pull off either of those take control of your own destiny and ask for a trade. I totally agree. Three steps. Take control every step of the way, and you have to control your own completely agree with you will. I completely agree with that to do know. Stephen at you stated the position I totally agree as you said, you agree with me. But I do you know, how easy it is to be the GM of loss. The Los Angeles Lakers right now, you'll Pelinka what's up, man. The state that hard watch this. I was talking to Jared Dudley pick. What do you think? This guy gets. What do you think that guy gets? I've been talking to some people if you I'm the GM of the Lakers. I'm sorry. What what coach do you want the Brian Tyler ghetto problem Tyler here? Here's what we gave Luke Walton. Same deal you choose your own staff easy. That's easiest hard. And then by the way. Hey, Danny green. What's it gonna take three years and twenty four million or more on round ten million a year for for for Danny green for brook Lopez? Lebron I got your got your forty percent of the starting five you're gonna need. We're waiting on a D or the other star that we're certainly gonna sign next off season. If we can't get them this season, we still have young tradable assets. This ain't hard the Lakers. Lebron James young tradable assets, the LA market the Lakers, Brandon cap space, and you can't get it done. Can I be clowning themselves right reflects even more poorly on you. It's not that you are not monogamous in your sports fandom is that you move from one dysfunctional franchise. Is tune even Lord dysfunctional franchise, something it's not with you ever. See what was it was a Bronx tale the mush? I'm a basketball mush is my favorite movie. I am about I'm a basket November the muck my favorite. In my favorite. Basketball mush when I got there. They would have been should have been a three peat Stephen A. Remember the part where he tests the girl if she opens the car door. That's right. And then what is it was a parliamentary you said he said if she doesn't reach over an open door for you fast. I loved I loved good. If you don't love the sale, go see. 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Kyrie Irving, Andrew Wiggins, and the NBAs Vaccine Dilemma

"Not everything go. Further update supportive. We're here for them. Things change and there's a resolution career form that was nets head coach. Steve nash confirming that kyrie irving was a no show at practice yesterday in brooklyn which could be an ongoing problem because new york city requires cova nineteen vaccine for any indoor activities one of which happens to be playing professional basketball so today with the nba season. Less than two weeks away. Ryan windhorst explains how the league set about getting shots into arms before shots. Go up and anymore shots. The fire pablo torre. It's wednesday october. Six i this is espn He's our favorite time of year as. We're back traveling. The road of college football and goodyear knows the passion and the excitement. It takes to drive forward whether your team is home or away. The games traditions are still the same. Through every first down touchdown or fourth quarter comeback by moving. Anything is possible. Good years here to drive you forward on the road that moves us all goodyear more driven so grind windhorst. I gotta start here with the question that i think everybody wants an answer to. How do you feel about being colleagues with david letterman now. It was a very unusual and odd. Moment brian windhorst covers the nba for espn and bore witness to one of the more surreal press conference moments in recent memory. Neither i nor anyone else in the room was laughing. So the genius show me. What kind of genius. He's still got so as bait the picture for his here because for people who aren't familiar with what the hell you're talking about. What did happen at a nets press converts. Yes so does that. The scene and especially for me nets media day started like the twenty something of september and Minutes before the press conference. I found out that kyrie irving had not met the protocol and would not be reporting which essentially meant. He wasn't gonna be able to play in new york for the foreseeable future. And so i was handling this. This new story and kevin durant was the first Nets Player up to speak so i sort of run into the press conference room and i just took a seat in the back row. There's a person directly in front of me three feet in front of me and I sorta did a double take. Because i was like that guy looks like david letterman He's wearing a mask all mast at that. Okay well listen. You know in new york strange things happen. I didn't think it was dave letterman. And then he turns to me and says how you doing david letterman here Do you have a notebook. And your response response to david letterman slash hipsters. Santa claus year as I just said hello. My name's brian. And i don't i have a tape recorder and He needed the notebook because it was about to be a prop in his questions with durant dave from a basketball digest kevin Katie wha why do people call you. K d Can i call you. Katie are okay. My first name's kevin obviously the nets had told Durant that letterman was going to be there. He wasn't stunned that he was there. But if kevin knew what the questions we're going to be he didn't let on and david in my humble non comedic mind asked very three questions this year. What percentage you plan on giving on the court ninety ninety five hundred hundred ten. What do we look at at One hundred ten. Dan ryan win or is coming out. Strong taking on one of the titans of american comedy. Well i mean. He is a titan of american comedy. But i don't think he's got the same writing staff when he did at the late show. I cannot wait for whatever this is the come out and just watch your face. Hopefully in the background. Very judgmental bryant. I was i probably was looking at him. Like what are you doing. This is the best you got and this is the best guide. And you're like. I have a job. I ever cascading series of headlines that's about to plunge the nba into a national controversy. That will unite ted cruz and kareem abdul-jabbar. Who's on subject now. And all of these other insane characters underneath this heading of what the hell is going on with the nba. In this vaccine brian. Now that would have been funny if he would have stuck around for the kyrie irvings zoom and ask some questions that would have been worth buying a ticket to but brian hold on a second year because the elephant in the room here was the guy who was not in the room. Here which was kyrie irving kyri was missing. Apparently because he is not complied with new york city's vaccine protocol which essentially requires people to get vaccinated for indoor activities quote unquote and so. This kept him away from not just media day last week but also more importantly from practice on tuesday which was the nets first practice back in brooklyn after getting back from training camp out in san diego. So let's just rewind here parse the pertinent details. When did you become aware in the first place. Something was even up with kyrie probably early september. Maybe laid off the law passed. I want to say in august and i. I shouldn't say past. It was is a decree from the mayor of new york. Bill de blasios and it became pretty clear that it was going to impact the the knicks and the nets players. That if they did not have at least one shot and could document that shot basically that they were not going to be able to play In new york and so naturally somebody my position we did some reporting on it. The word we got back basically. Was you know. There's confidence that everybody will be vaccinated. And in fact numerous players more than one of the players on the nets and the knicks did get vaccinated or did satisfy the protocol in one way or the other i can't say for sure. They were all vaccinated but when the day came everybody was there except for kyri so it became clear that he was the one who did not meet the protocol. And you know even on that day. The nets were saying the same things as they were saying in the lead up to The beginning of the season. Which is we're confident kyri will get it They said that you know throughout the following training camp in san diego which they ended up being fortunate pablo. They scheduled their training camp in san diego months ago but had their training camp ben in brooklyn kyri would not have been allowed to practice so blowing off site enabled them to have kyrie in practice. It was sort of a a happy coincidence that they were able to dodge that situation but nina. Now it's head on so kyri. Zoom and not in person on media day brian. That whole scene. What what did he say. What did he actually offer in terms of an explanation as to his absence. It was an ironic inverse because for the last year the players were in that room talking to us on a screen and now we were in that room talking to him on screen. He was at his home office and we were there and he basically just said it's all privacy it's all private do you expect to be either vaccinated or compliant in time. By the time you guys come back from la after the preseason game. Not brian i appreciate your questions Human being i think I just love to just keep that private in not able to present their today But it doesn't mean that. I'm putting any limits on the future of me being able to join team. And while a vaccination status is indeed a private matter. He claimed privacy on every question about it. People were speculating about certain stances. You have and that you're not gonna be available to your team and that kind of thing and just why don't you want to clear that up to some extent near. Please respect my privacy next question. Do you expect to play in home games in new york considering the the rules in the state again are like you'd all our private. Please disrespect privacy that everything will be released a due date in the once we get this cleared up but as of right now. Just please respect my privacy and that was frustrating to a lot of people because we had serious questions Like about how would you feel if you weren't able to play at home games. This season half of the game these privacy. No no pry kyrie how you feel about losing hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars privacy and so he just sort of use that as a statement and then frankly the team. I know this is sean marks. The general manager's position he is just gone right into punt formation. When talking to the media sense said it's a private matter for kyrie. Well it is a private matter for kyrie but it's a heck of a problem for the nets Whether they want to hide behind that statement or not yeah. It feels like look. There's a larger conversation we'll touch on here about public health and privacy and how many of these choices are around vaccination. But we're really talking about here is also just a sports business story. It's actually just a sports story. What happens when one of the three best players on the nba. Title favorite ends up not being able to play a half of their games because of a local ordinance and it feels like you know so much of this got kicked off through this rolling stone story that came out and look. This is not spn's reporting but it was explosive reporting. They talked to kyrie's aunt she's the head of his family foundation. She's described as one of the few people in his regular circle of advisers. How would you describe what she said. As kyrie's motives here are concerned. I don't wanna put words in her mouth but she basically implied that kyrie was going to be fighting a grander fight beyond just whether he could play in the nba or not Just basically a fight for anybody who felt that they were being forced to vaccinate or forced to do anything. I think if i recall his aunt said something along the lines of what he's doing is not religious based its moral based knowing whether his aunt was speaking for him or whether she was speaking on your own would be a key yes or no question to get from kyrie irving at some point hiree definitely feels a draw to be much bigger than basketball and in certain areas in his life. He has been and by the way in some areas of his life. It's been very admirable. Yeah and you know. It's it's a big standard. Take i think for modern athletes who want to be you know bigger than athletes. The icon is mohammed ali and muhammad ali at a very delicate time and our country stood up for what he believed in in terms of the draft. And i don't want to put words into kyrie's mouth or make an assumption of what he's thinking because that's really dangerous. But i think hiree would like to be somebody who is seen as that type of inspirational person beyond the game hiree in the past has dabbled around the concept of trying to start his own league away from the nba. So you know he has a guy to say the he's a guy that he thinks. Big is true. I believe he's even talked about After his playing career going living on a commun- things of this nature so there's no telling what he may say and what he may do quite frankly and pablo. It's actually my preference as somebody who covers the nba. I really made a decision a couple of years ago. Then i'm gonna came to kyri. I was only going to focus on the rectangle of the basketball court. Because after that got a little bit squishy and you could find yourself sort of stuck in a swamp trying to follow going on in this case we have no choice because his actions and words outside the basketball court affect the team on the court. Who's maybe highest profile team in the nba. And a chance to win the championship this year. Which is the core of everything that we do. At certain point. It feels like i guess. Life has dealt me this hand where. I must now go hunting for these instagram posts. Tyree has started liking in which vaccines are alleged to be part of a plot to connect people to a master computer on behalf of satan. I can't say for sure that's why he thinks. But certainly there's evidence that he is is studying those concepts. So what does happen from here brian. How long does go on. What kind of resolution do you see on the horizon. If at all so the nba is doing everything in its power to force players into getting the vaccine. The lives of players who are unvaccinated are much more uncomfortable than their vaccinated teammates from them. Not being able to sit in the sections of the plane. That are more comfortable to them. Not being able to eat with their teammates to how much they have to test to Whether they may have to spend time away from the team if they're exposed to cova And most importantly they're gonna take kyrie irvings money for games that he doesn't play and not much. Are we talking about ryan well. That's a key factor here so the nba players union and the league as we speak are fighting over this exact thing the nba in an effort to force kyrie and andrew wiggins quite frankly to get vaccinated decided they were not going to pay a players if they if they had to sit due to the city rules and for kyrie irving that is going to be in the neighborhood of four hundred thousand dollars per game. They are absolutely trying to turn the screw as hard as possible on on kyrie to get vaccine so brian i mean looking at your latest reporting here with woes tonight about what. The nets are kind of feeling about all of this right now with two weeks to go before the season starts. How would you describe how the organization is approaching this at this point. Well they've been hopeful that kyrie you know would get compliance would get vaccinated and since that is not happening and the reality pablo is. There's only one day left in the entire preseason where the nets are are scheduled to be out of new york. And that's a that's a one game a one day trip to philadelphia for a game next week. it's kyra can't practice at least with the team and so as they peak ahead to their early season schedule they have six game homestand in mid october where it would be eleven consecutive days. Where under the current rules of kyrie is not compliant. He only play in those six games. He can't practice on the days off in between man and so it's very difficult in the national basketball association to not play a practice with your team for seven to ten to fourteen days at a time and just show up and play and the nets are now starting to come to terms with the reality that their hopes that kyrie would get this Taking care of aren't going through. You know they were. Hopefully we could go in here. They are a week later. It's not taking so. They have started to to examine whether or not they want to allow kyrie to be a part time player. Do they want to enter into a situation where they will have to go through. These shock changes to their team bringing kyrie in and out There's even a stretch pablo in in november and december. Where they're at home for twenty out of twenty six days i mean the nba has accepts stretches. The reality is that the nets are starting to think that they may have to make a decision on this. I mean. i don't think they're there yet. But i think they are trying to be responsible and the thing about is they're very deep team. You know they don't have another kyrie irving but they have another great point. Guard have another. Mvp level point guard right there in james harden and they have a patty mills who they who is their major offseason free agent signing Who is a starter level player. He's not kyrie irving. Don't get me wrong. But he is a quality replacement and so they are beginning to to to say listen. We have to go through a process here and really pablo if i could translate it. Yeah i think it's the nets beginning to push back To basically say kyri we. We will support your decision either way. But you've got to make that decision you can't sit on the fence and so we may be headed toward that becoming a you know a pinch point four korean the nets in the short term future. But it would. Just be blunt with me here about this brian because if the nets are beginning to push back in a decision might be made a very tough decision i mean are we talking about a trade. Are we talking about something else. Who in the organization has the power on that. How how's the power structure work here. Well it's it's be kevin durant. Kevin durant is the guy who really is the point person on any big decision with the nets. This would be a huge. You know the situation really is is that kyri is is not a valuable player in new york. If he's not vaccinated he's a valuable player in twenty seven other cities he's how slayer in new york. He's half a player in new york and the nets are trying to title this year. Kyrie may feel unfair. But it's the reality. It's the reality of the nets have to play with and and so. I don't think we're at that point and i don't think katie is at that point but i think a week ago. Everybody was hopeful and sort of in full support. That is now starting to come in doubt and the nets in in kevin durant are going to have to evaluate their options. And i don't want to talk about trade because that starts to fire people up. But let's get aggregated buddy if you are going to be a new the every other player currently playing in new york no matter where they are on the vaccination has gotten vaccine because they understand if you wanna be a player in new york. This what you have to do right now. Kyri has not made that decision and so you have to start to deduct about whether he wants to be a player in new york and that's a situation that the nets have to do the calculus begin to think about doing it. So brian before my head explodes at all of these possibilities now of what happens to kyrie and his organization and what kevin durant ask. Do any of it. You would also mentioned andrew wiggins and golden state the other player in this entire contentious affair. And i have to ask you about him after the break academy sports and outdoors and sarah. Spain are teaming up to bring you to exciting episodes over podcast. That's which she said which features insightful conversations with captivating women were blazing trails in the sports world and the great outdoors guests are gonna range from wnba legend to a professional fly fishing guide to nc double a. Conference commissioner angle. Here from san antonio spurs assistant coach becky hammon. Espn star laura. Rutledge hardcore carnivore. Founder just prowls and more these special episodes air in october. So be sure to catch. That's what she said presented by academy available wherever you enjoy your podcasts. Surrounding you're mentioning. These city ordinances that require resident athletes to be vaccinated in order to play their home games. New york city is one of them. The other one of great note here is san francisco. And this is where andrew wiggins and i guess the andrew wiggins situation do enter the. Nba's craw. i suppose how have the warriors dealt with this house has been different from kyrie well in brooklyn. The nets are all at least publicly directly in alignment behind kyri. They're all saying we're not worried about it gonna do a kyri has to do. We support him saying that worked out. That was not necessarily the case in golden state again. This is something that i know. It became public shortly before the season began but privately this was an issue for the warriors for several weeks leading up the training camp. We don't exactly know what andrew wiggins methodology was. But when you know. Andrew wiggins was pretty firm when he spoke at media day that he was really against it. In for what i believe in whether as one thing or another get the vaccine show not gonna vaccination was the reason for not just explaining what you believe is on your business. That's what it comes down to. You know ask you what your beliefs guys. What you think is right or wrong. The big difference. Is that the california san francisco law isn't yet in effect so wiggins was able to attend media day and practice but coming up later this month will go into effect and in that case like wiggins would would not be able to play home games and from what i understand several Golden state warriors players in addition to the team leaned very hardly on andrew trying to convince him to do this. And then you had draymond green come out and basically say no man should force another man to get vaccinated. It's not my place nor my business on whether he gets vaccinated or not. Oh who else is fascinated or if you're fascinated and i'm not or if he isn't she is that's none of my business. I think there is something to be said for people's concern about something that's being pressed sohar like. Why are you pressing this sohar. I think you have to honor people's fillings and their own personal beliefs. And i think that's been loss brian that that that monologue. I just wanna be clear about this. He kind of became a heroic figure to a lot of people that i don't think would consider draymond green a hero before they heard him. Say this about wiggins yes and I don't know if kyrie irving what align himself with. Ted cruz wake. Ted cruz. aligned himself with kyrie irving. it's sort of made unusual bedfellows. Yes brian yes. America's cova death count was soaring past seven hundred thousand. There was ted cruz. The republican senator from texas who tweeted in reference to notable mba players who had expressed vaccine hesitancy quotes. I stand with kyrie. Irving i stand with andrew wiggins. I stand with bradley beal. I stand with jonathan isaac hashtag. Nba hashtag. your body your choice. Yeah and you also had lebron james basically backing up drain greens supportive. Andrew wiggins is independent. Joyce and not only lebron james a A very vocal person within the nba. But also definitely a thought leader in the african american community. But brian on the wiggins thing. What was stunning to me. And this has happened over the last. you know. we're recording on tuesday. It's happened over. The last twenty four hours is a significant development in this story. That changes the story fundamentally right so over the weekend The golden state warriors. Coach steve kerr announced that andrew wiggins have been vaccinated and would be available for their games. going forward Andrew got vaccinated. Just told me today that it was fine with us acknowledging it and that'll be the end of it so i'm not going to answer any questions beyond that. His decision apparently came in the wake of the nba announcing they would Doc players pay and You know basically despite what. Andrew described very vehemently as his philosophy on it West and a week later he He got the job as it. Were seizing starnes. Miss this basketball. I didn't want to get the vaccination. Something added to the thing about it is the nba doesn't have a mandate but they're they're basically making it next to impossible to be able to operate without getting the vaccine on your become they're stopping me and the nba has said that now ninety five percent of its players have received at least one dose and that a significant percentage of those players have done so in the last couple of weeks. And it's it's really. The threat of lost pay and the protocols of the league is passed that have contributed to pushing that number closer to one hundred percent and so while ted cruz and kyri or andrew wiggins or draymond green or lebron can say whatever they want and by the way drain on the brun are vaccinated. Ultimately the nba is a private enterprise and ultimate more talking about millions of dollars and that has been a guiding principle for a lot of players in this. But the thing about lebron. Brian is that you didn't three tweet. Re dre comments. He also spoke about this at his own media day interview with some people's bodies and well beings in also. I don't feel like for me personally now. Should get involved in and and what people should do their bodies and their livelihoods but as far as speaking for everybody in air individualities and things they want to do Like that's my. That's not my job which then prompted and his canter. The celtics center to go on cnn to then criticized. Lebron heard. I was very disappointed and ridiculous. You know obviously lebron james. He's one of the face off the league. And i want to go out there and say to encouraging. Everyone is going to get this vaccine. So we can save other lives. And this then led to kareem abdul jabbar. Brian who sometimes feels like the moral centre of the nba. At this point this towering figure in american cultural history it led to him publishing an essay on sub stack. that said quote. I'm a huge fan of lebron james but this time lebron is just plain wrong and his being wrong could be deadly especially to the black community. Where all for freedom but not at the expense of others nor if it damages the country and quote which is basically this now public disagreement among some of the greatest players in the history of the sport playing out very very publicly and i can't imagine the league office here as a whole is thrilled about what's going on he hasn't it puts people in very uncomfortable situations you know. For example lebron his brand. I will not shut up and dribble. I will speak for my generation will speak for my My people. I will speak for people who need this voice. And he's done incredible things with that platform particularly in the field of education starting solids yes all of them right and you know you wanna ask these. Follow up questions like is this which you have taught in schools That's the challenge with taking the stand as more than an athlete. Is that once. You've said that that's what you are. You are then kind of expected to take positions on these types of things and that's basically what kareem is calling them out on and say you can't do one and not the other and that's the era that we're in right now. It puts lebron in a challenging position. And he seems to be very comfortable though taking that position and that's where we are in the nba and within society even though kyrie irving is in the vast minority in the nba. Ryan win horse. Thank you for being our voice on a very complicated story. Thank you pablo pablo toray and this has been espn daily. I'll talk to you tomorrow

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NBA Finals; Ortiz Update

Outside the Lines

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

NBA Finals; Ortiz Update

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That's the way we see. Mr. invincible domes, defined, by the states. Go see one you're on the mental side of the game is fifty and the mental side is completely neglected but the golden. What you see change your perception, Abby sporting event. This. Welcome to outside knows. I'm Clinton gates today we check in on the status of big Papi. Now that he's back in Boston. And we talk to you as soccer legend Tim Howard, but first, we returned to Toronto. That's where the big story is the series is over. But Kevin Durant season. Most definitely is. It is believed that the two time defending NBA finals MVP suffered in a Tare which true drastically changes the outlook of the off season for the entire league. Look say what you want about the player or the team. There is a legit question to be asked about not only the decision to play him. But also how the rest of the NBA community factors into this warriors GM Bob Myers was extremely emotional about it after the game. I don't believe there's anybody to blame. But I understand this world. And if you have to you can blame me I run our best ball operations department. Tell you something about Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant loves to play basketball, and the people that questioned whether he wanted to get back to this team we're wrong. And I'm not here to. He's one of the he's one of the most misunderstood people he's a good teammate good person. It's not fair. Myers. Understandably was in borderline panic mode went through a range of emotions and made sure not to throw anyone under the bus. The people that worked with him and cleared him are good people. They're good people. Players typically need almost nine months to recover. So this effectively changes the entire NBA landscape. Never mind the warriors. Let's bring in Brian Windhorst to talk about how this will affect this off season, windy. I heard you talking on a show earlier about how there are so many NBA veterans who are simply around the court on a regular basis during the NBA finals and considering what we know about the injury. Now you said they were they were shocked that he was playing at all. How did you feel in the moment? Hearing that considering what ended up happening? Yeah. I think the one thing Clinton they're really surprised me was before the game. Steve Kerr said there was no minute restriction. And that was just a really surprising thing to hear and clearly since they played them twelve the first fourteen minutes that was one hundred percent. True and all kinds of players are here to either taking or work in media roles at the NBA finals. Most of them are champions. That's why they're in that role. There was a whole bunch of rings from different years on display around that floor last night before the game. And they were just really surprised that not necessarily the, the Kevin was playing although some people thought he shouldn't play, but that they would be willing to, to ride him so hard obviously, it's an elimination game but it's three one. You know, it wasn't like it was a game seven, and Kevin, it done so much for them. So it's one thing in hindsight to say, boy, shouldn't have played, I think everybody, especially everybody involved, the warriors organization would say, of course he shouldn't have played, but from a player's standpoint, that's what really surprised me. And really, I think this is going to. Color, big decisions like this going forward. This is not going to be remembered at when players like Kawhi Leonard last year, for example aren't comfortable playing regardless of what the expectation of the fans and the media or the team itself is it's going to be looked at through a different lens because of what happened here in Toronto last night. We heard a reaction from the crowd as we watched a game. And some people thought that they were overdone I got to admit watching that from afar. It wasn't clear. How many people were actually involved in those boos for his injury? Tell me a little bit about how that how that worked out in the arena and the people, potentially booing. What was it? Very bad injury. It was unfortunate. I mean, the crowd was charged on this topic from the start when Durant came out to warm up before the game. They would cheer when he missed and booed when he made when he made that is obviously, that's up to you see every day. And I think kind of in response to the crowd Durant threw down a dunk and hung on the rim kind of to say, I'm here, and you're going to have to deal with it. So there was already sort of a back and forth, going on with Durant, in the crowd that led up to that moment. Obviously, that's absolutely unacceptable, and the warriors players knew it in the instant. And by the time he was walking off the court. They were chanting his name that is not who the Toronto Raptors fans are. But I do think it illustrates just how high stakes that game was the raptors in their fans knew how important it was to win. They knew the direct coming back put their team's position in this series and somewhat jeopardy. And they were reacted in the moment that way, it was not a great moment, friend, BA basketball effects, and nothing. That happened in that game last night was a good moment for NBA basketball. Despite the great place by by both teams down the stretch. Let's not get to dollars and cents, but it matters here. How does this affect what the Ross was situation is for the warriors? And how do you see this overall? Lastly affecting the NBA as a whole in terms of what happens in the offseason. Yeah. I mean, we were looking at potentially, one of the most intense free agency periods we've ever seen with teams in big markets clearing out, multiple MAC slots, a bunch of high level, free agents, the possibility of teams like the Nixon Lakers, who have been down at the bottom for last five six years, rising up in one moment. And now all of that is in doubt. If the raptors get another win here. Why Leonard will be walking away from a champion. I just don't know if that's if everybody feels like that's going to happen. And if Durant, even if Durant does change teams the fact that he probably won't be available for the bulk of of next season. If it all changes, the balance of power, you know, it changes, which teams may be willing to go after but changes his market a little bit. The one positive is, is Kevin Durant is such a great player, and there's so much a desire for him. I don't think he'll lose any money. He'll get another max contract from the warriors or somewhere else is Brian who is hardest working man in North America. Thank you. In the hours, since we heard that Red Sox legend David Ortiz, was shot in the Dominican Republic information has been at a premium will be do knows that our thesis has been moved to Boston After undergoing emergency surgery. Plenty of individuals have shown an outpouring of love to the Boston community and the family, but the situation is still tenuous, Marley Veras in Boston at Mass General hospital where we watch and wait Marley. Can you just give us an update on first of all, how it was that he was moved, and what his condition is at this point at this time. Well clinton. Good afternoon. Definitely David arrived last night at Logan airport. Approximately Aloun around ten pm in a Lear jet a medical, Leo Learjet. He arrived for this father, Leo Ortiz, and some small contingent of medical staff. He was received right here at Mass General hospital where he arrived around ten thirty and I was speaking with some family members and one of his media assistants. His name is Leo Lopez. And he told me that they had to do a small intervention. What is called an exploratory surgery. Just checking on his condition. We saw the statement the official statement. But about the Boston Red Sox by his wife, Tiffany Ortiz. And she confirmed the fact that he had had to get surgery. But at this point, he's still considered stable, that is the word that we keep hearing. He is serious, but stable, he's in the ICU will he will remain in observation for twenty four to forty eight hours water. Some of the reactions you've seen around Boston, and in general from the baseball community, obviously his goal in his hero. Sort of status in the DR one thing but in Boston, it's another in the game. It's a third what have you heard? Absolutely. It's like a combination of both. There's a great Dominican community here in Boston. So actually we've seen some Dominican flags actually last night. We saw quite a few cars go by with Dominican flags. Every time we go by we're right here in the West End, and every time anyone goes by ask us, what is going on? How is big Papi doing and that just shows us just the, you know, the, the interest that everyone has on this? And of course we spent some time at Fenway yesterday. We spoke to spoke to JD Martinez, and he is someone who grew up a Red Sox fan. And he said, when you think of the Red Sox. And when you think of the championships, you think of big Papi of manager Alex Cora when as far as to say he's a superhero for us without a Cape. And especially for the Dominican players has been, they've taken it very hard Eduardo Nunez, really didn't want to talk to the press very much. He said, this just really has touched me. This is my brother, I the opportunity to talk some of the Dominican players in the Texas Rangers, including the Mingo Santana who frequents this bar restaurant, were David Ortiz, was shot and told me, this is just shocking. This is someone who is just the Beloit. Figure a larger than life figure into the mic and Republic. This is a hero for these players. And when they landed they didn't find out all the news until they landed in Boston. They're facing the Red Sox in this series. And there were just extremely shocked. They could have tears on there is, as they were talking to me about it. Moral revert. Thank you very much outside of Mass General hospital present information. The US women's national team finally gets their World Cup title defense started today facing off against Thailand of Hans, of course this tournament is not without controversy. Either members of the US women's team have filed a lawsuit over equality and equal treatment ESPN's Julie Foudy talked to the Team Stars for sixty. The number one women's soccer team in the world is fighting to get paid, what they're worth all twenty eight members of the women's national team filed a gender discrimination lawsuit against the US. Soccer federation, arguing consistently been paid less than the men despite outperforming them in global competition. The lawsuit totals forty one complaints, including unequal, pay an unfair treatment. For example, from two thousand fifteen to two thousand eighteen the women played nineteen more games than the men which meant they often spent more time practicing and playing in matches more time and training camps and more time, traveling, the suit also details resource disparities. In two thousand seventeen the US soccer federation, chartered flights for the men's national team on and least seventeen occasions for the women on even once. There was a lawsuit that was filed by you and your teammates. Why did you decide to take part in? Well, it obviously wasn't an overnight decision beyond the paycheck. I think it's about creating more opportunity for the future. I think a lot of what we're doing. You know, I'm never going to see. And I think for us, we need to continue that legacy. A doing more pushing more not far selves. Not for what we're going to get tomorrow, but for the future of this sport, and for the future of women, it's a really interesting time, because it's sort of equally exhausting and frustrating and energizing, and inspiring kind of all at once would much prefer to not be doing this and not to have this destruction or to have these other things going on. We would much prefer to just play. But this is where we are. So you either get in the fight and get your hands dirty and put all your skin or you don't and you're not really part of making things better. It's. A matter of respect and it's a matter of treating us income sitting us in the way that we deserve based on a number of things, but mainly our value in our success. And what we mean to US Arthur as, as a team some would argue that the men bring in more money or they bring in more viewership, would you say to that argument? It's no comparison you can't compare the two. It's all about investment, you know. And I think people are always trying to compare like oh, you don't have the amount of money in the sport. Or you don't have the viewership or this, or this, and it's like, but imagine what we could have if we were given the same opportunity, the easy thing to go to is equal pay compensation, or whatever your paycheck is or bonuses. But it's much broader than that. I think before you can have the conversation about pay equity or compensation. You have to have the conversation around funding of youth programs. And, you know, marketing dollars in sponsorship dollars and promotion. And you know, are both staffs funded equally. I think until all of that really is dressed in sort of looking at looked at seriously then can't really have the conversation around compensation. He can't say, like you know you didn't wanna this plant now. It's not growing so can't fault, the plan for not growing. We've been you know, obviously fighting for so long, you know, against something, and I think this is kind of a shift in mentality to fight for something these issues are so deeply rooted in society. It's almost like we've just been taught that this type of behavior should be acceptable, that, that we should deserve less than what we're worth, or that we should be grateful for what has been given. And I think for so long we've almost believed that lie. Why is it important to fight that fight now right before? You're going to defend your World Cup title. We have to it's our responsibility. It's our obligation. And if we constantly say like oh, now's not the right time now. It's not the very time like it's never going to happen. And, and for us players were so focused on and determined on being successful, yet, this responsibility is core to, to who we are into to what our contribution, I think will be even greater than what we do on the field. The president of US soccer issued a statement in response to the lawsuit, saying, we are looking forward to additional meetings with the players in the near future. So we may learn more about their objectives. While they in turn can hear from us. Our mutual goal is the dialogue that will serve the best interests of the US women's national team. And US soccer. Coming up if you're the best player at your position in the history of your country, and the only one to ever be considered the best in the world at your position from your country, are you then that's the best player in the history of your country? We'll figure that out next with US soccer legend Tim, how. 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How do the pros handle the pressure? He joins us from MLS headquarters in New York City to talk all matters footy related on his brain. Tim, let me ask you just off the top. What made you want to participate in this story to talk about something that is so deeply involved to you psychologically in terms of you are an athlete? Well to be quite honest. I don't really I was unwilling participant. I think that that quote was taken from another time. And it was it was placed in the story, as if it was, if I had sat for the story, but the but the fact of the matter is, you have to go to some places as go, keep an I spent most of my career in those places, both good and bad. What do you think that means in terms of who you are as an athlete in who you've been able to be going forward as I guess Representative for this game? I mean you are a very popular player but you played a very singular and played very singular position. How does that affect how you present? What the game is everybody else. Well, I think that's right. I, I can't be the same person that walked down the street six days of the week that I am on the field. You know, you have to you have to pay your mind. For all types of scenarios, and most most of them never happened. But as you said, you're Singler figure out there and you have to be able to, to wrestle with the highs and lows and keep an even keel. So it's, it's difficult. But, you know, the, the good goalkeepers figure out a way to do it your at Emily's headquarters right now. The growth of that league is something that has been very important to the United States of America, in terms of its relationship with the sport overall, not just a mess tickly, where do you think MLS has come not just since you started playing in it as a regular again? But how it's helped Americans really relates with the game is on a global level. Well, I'm Melissa soccer in America. You know, I started in nineteen ninety eight I was buying tickets giant stadium. When I was still in high school in ninety six ninety seven to watch the MetroStars all those years ago. So I've seen 'em lessen its infancy and to see where it's grown now and to be able to finish my career here. See the stadiums and the teams. And for me more than anything that I that I recognize a having come back from playing abroad is the fan, the fan base. You know, every t- every team has has thousands and thousands of passionate supporters I joke, but it's, it's true. Every city we go to or hated, which is a great thing. It's the way it is globally. And that allows, you know, our fans are what allow us to be on par with the rest of the world. What we do do well in this nation is the women's World Cup. And what we have coming up is the US, getting ready to play Thailand to start their tournament. Just tell me quickly wouldn't you think about as a fan looking forward to this tournament and what you think the you know how they're going to do from success? The fun part about being a fan of just could sit back and cheer and yell engine beer and do all that kind of fun stuff. You know, those women are there and all the all the training is behind them now. And so I, I can imagine there chomping at the bit. You know, for me they go in his favorites, the betting favourite seemed to be France. But I've said I've said many times in the last week, I think that's going to let a fire onto our women that are defending champions. They know that the best in the fact that there in the ho there in, in France. And the host nation is favored. I think that, that will give them the extra the tunnel election motivation they need. They don't need much extra. But that will certainly give it to them, Tim Howard. Thank you very much for joining us today. I appreciate it. 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It's been considered an openly reasonable matter to discuss Durant so-called loyalty to the team and franchise. It openly showed disdain for him as somehow being less than for finding his way to a team in a way they didn't consider acceptable, what he had to prove to the basketball community in general, to shake that rep was always too much and was never going to be a fair exchange to which, I say, are you happy now the men ran himself into the ground after the best organization in the league had convinced themselves that this would be necessary just approved what exactly? I know. Full well he had zero business playing in this game. It was not going to be safe. It was not going to be smart for long term purposes. All it was going to do the satisfy our need to see him in a warriors jersey. One more time to see that he didn't somehow scape from not playing in a series that they might lose indus- advocating himself, potentially from blame while the real warriors played the games. It just seemed like he didn't even have an option to say, no reality. It was sick. Twisted emotionally convenient now to act like we care about katie's health when so many people spend so much time questioning his intent from the jump you don't care. You never did care NBA fans. All you cared about was making sure that Durant fit. Whatever image, you had in your mind what he player is supposed to do to satisfy your twisting, matrix, of effort, desire, gratitude that you need to play a call player a player loyal. It's all nonsense. It always has been now the best player in the league on the shelf for God knows how long and for whom and for what certainly not for him and certainly not for the good of the game. We failed the human trying to help basketball. Thanks for watching those Wendi nix, NFL, live or coming your way. I'm Clinton never at rat.

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Hour 1: Steel City Blues

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Hour 1: Steel City Blues

"Well, given to I look who is back, ladies and gentlemen. Mr stephanie. How are you doing? Back tomorrow. Hi, max. How are you? Good morning. Good morning. Well, we got a lot to get to a lot of news happens as you guys have been gone to start with the NFL. We have plenty of playoff talk as well. Ask coaching vacancies. But let's start with what's dominating headlines. It's pittsburgh. It's steel city all hell broke loose. When it was reported that Brown was bench Sunday against the Bengals. After you missed the team's meetings and work on Saturday, and he allegedly wasn't dealing with a knee injury. Here's Mike Tomlin on office. He did not show up on Saturday. And I didn't know the incentive his injury. I made the decision that time regardless of how he felt at any point that we were moving on and getting singly focussed on preparing to play the game when we woke up on Sunday and felt better and drew east out and express that I expressed to drew that plan was not on the table because we had to draw a line in the dirt in terms of getting our group ready to play and make the last minute preparations and so forth. Obviously, we take his lack of communication his lack of presence particularly on Saturday prior to the game to be something. That's very significant it will be handled appropriately. So I'm not going to speculate on trays and things of that nature. We haven't formally received requests request in that regard. So I'm not gonna speculate. I'm not gonna speculate in terms of where to discipline might go and things of that nature. Just no that is going to be addressed. And it will be addressing these to be addressed. For obvious reasons. Guys, check this out two minutes after Tomlin had said that Brown tweeted, my options may seem limited by people or circumstances. It is them that. I remind myself I am in command of my attitude. Divinely blessed with free will utilize that gift choosing take charge of my life to express creativity vitality and wholeness that truly defined me. So Stephen I ask you this should the Steelers. Should the Steelers trait Antonio brass hell Nuff, listen, let me tell y'all something. I. This new year. I'm gonna try to be nice. I'm trying to be good mood. I'll try to be nice. What you know, this kind of stuff really irritates me. I mean, who are we talking about here? We talk about some role play. We talked about some average dupe. We're talking about Antonio Brown. A God of the universally recognized won the top two or three receivers in all of not just one year. Not as last season, not two years. The last six years he has had a minimum of one hundred and one receptions is at a minimum of twelve hundred and eighty four yards. He led league touchdowns Dichio with fifteen from the receiver's position. Dude is a flat out stunt. And by the way over that time hearing he had only missed three in the last six years before missing last week is game. Does that absolve him from ridicule? No does it absolve in from guilt. No, does it make you say, you know, what he does just leave him alone. He he doesn't deserve to be bothered. Of course, not you have to be responsible when you're elite with greatness comes. Great responsibile. I get all of that. But at the end of the day, you kicked his brother because guess what? At you, don't go out on the field with a good personality and no game in. Excel you go out on the field. You don't go out on the field with good professionalism? But no skills and excel you got to be great. And this brother is one of the greatest in the game that it does not absolve him from any stretch of the imagination. And I got my own stuff when it which I'll get into later, but I will tell you that overall when you talk about trading this man that is asinine. There is nothing to think about here because you don't find greatness light that every day players win win football games and Tonio Brown can balk max, what do you think? Fourteen hundred ninety nine yards. Eight touchdowns sixteen hundred ninety eight yards thirteen touchdowns eighteen hundred thirty four yards. Ten touchdowns almost thirteen hundred yards. Twelve touchdowns led league fifteen hundred thirty. Three touchdown lead lead with fifteen touchdowns this year twelve hundred ninety seven yards you trade a trade Antonio Brown. Those numbers that I just recited place him among the best who ever did it. And he's probably still in his prime going forward. Eyeball test is. Yup, that's an Tonio Brown, and it should be for the foreseeable future. And yet you treat him. Why? Do you trade him? Well, there are three reasons. Trade him Stephen a number one. What is he done? He has become a problem in the locker room clearly that has been widely reported. It's obvious to any observer, by the way, let's even just take it back to what was it latte. Not this past season. Previous with Mike Tomlin is giving the speech in the locker room about staying off social media and this posting Facebook live. That's why we know Taba was giving this page because you could hear it in the background and has it gotten better or worse since then it certainly does not appear to have gotten better. Now and Tonio Brown is right to say, whatever say it express yourself, if you want you also have to live with the consequences of that. He's one of the best whoever did it. But that means so one he's a problem the locker room to. You can get enormous draft capital for him and Tonio Brown's gonna fetch you at least a first round pick. Here's another reason. Stephen you clear enormous cap room. Here's another reason, Steven if Antonio Brown was the only number one receiver on the team, I understand it. You know, this is maybe the best receiving combinations or tandem since what moss and Carter, or at least they have a chance to be. But that's the point you have juju Smith Schuster. He is also one of the best receivers football, Georgia. Smith Schuster is an absolute top shelf leap number one receiver if he's your number one receiver. You're not looking for a guy so in the NFL league with a hard cap. Yes. Having extra is good. But you don't need to be redundant at a position. Like that by position. I just don't mean receiver. I mean top number one receiver, especially if he's very expense. Which Tonio Brown is. So you have a very expensive receiver where you have another one another number one receiver. He's the problem in the locker room, and you can get a hell of FAI draft pick compensation for him. Plus, that's why you trade Antonio Brown. Well, I'm gonna tell you why don't wanna hear that his one of the reasons why we didn't say that when the laws or the Oakland Raiders decided to to let go of Khalil Mack who was a dominant dominant defensive play in the National Football League. Last time I checked in the five years or so that he was in Oakland only made the playoffs. Once the reality is is that you still lamented. The fact we all still amended the fact that he was gone because you don't find those players every day. I understand what you're saying terms of potentially high draft pick caps, whatever. But why are you doing all of that to acquire players the magnitude of it Tonio Brown, if you're lucky and also one of the things that I wanna get into is this I am. So it's just a it's just it's not really about you. It's just a person. Preference. That I have when we're talking about coaches and beyond. If everything's gotta be all, right. And it's gotta be peace. And everybody's got a hug and sin. Cool by JABA one. Another why the hell why need you as a coach? What do I need to GM? What do I need you for? I hear you have the ideal personality man, I knew that I hear you just missed the playoffs and on. Will note. But was there a team chemistry issue this year? Like, do you see that in Baltimore who made the playoffs? So if there's a team chemistry. Let's put it this way. Let's say JJ watt was a problem in the locker room. Right. You have Davey on if JJ watt was a problem the locker room, he's the opposite. But let's say he was you could get a first round pick. And maybe then some for him, and you have another guy who does with different Khalil Mack. There was no other Khalil Mack. Well, let me tell you this first of all I don't want to hear from you max because you've got to make up your mind week ago. It was about levian bell your sacrifice the season because a better. What you said you set up there? I was the one who said excuse me. That's relevant. We're talking about a Super Bowl title. We're talking about making the playoffs. And you said bottom line is they sabotage this Levy on Bill you print it out. How Big Ben Rothlisberger was throwing those words zone in such as you pointed out how big rats Burgos missing open receivers like Antonio. So what I'm saying is this season the Steelers not making a place dead. They don't let anyone on. That's not very, Tony a wedge. Right. They should they should have resigned levian bell. If they wanted to make the playoffs they didn't. They didn't make the playoffs. You say you're hoping to find with that draft pick and Antonio Brown, you probably won't but you'll find a good player who's really cheap and you'll have money to go out and sign free agents at this point the time as they need to from Tony overseas. Please go on your Brown. I will we're not talking about Steelers. You know, what's funny to think that the spite the Browns divisional by not having head coach, they seem less dysfunctional indices right now, maybe my name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want. My identity to be the smoking mom my first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance good. It's it's it's like a cigarette. But not I don't miss smoking. At all. Like, I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette. Asher lingering odor. Make the switch and J U L dot com slash I take warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine is an addictive chemical. Sportscenter right now, I'm Dettori Harlem when you're one of the best young stars in the NBA, your team sits in the basement of conference standings questions are bound to be raised about your future with that organization and it happened again last night after Anthony Davis posted thirty four points and twenty four rebounds in the losing effort against the nets the twenty five year old who can become a free agent in the summer of twenty twenty two flex questions about as long term commitment to the organization. You say to you. So I want play. Team. That's don't. You played a team you played on stating. Someone else you might be feeling frustrated this morning. Russell westbrook. He had a fifteen percent field goal percentage against the Lakers last night. He did end up with a triple double. But statistically, it was the worst triple double since nineteen eighty six yet thunder LA by seven thanks to Paul George thirty seven points and his locked down defense. Now, let's talk back to I take. Thank you, Victoria. So it's a win for the funder. But yet another tough outing for Russell Westbrook. The former MVP with the worst triple double in the NBA over thirty years going three of twenty from the field. Max, are you concerned with Westbrook? I am let me just say. I'm not even gonna go here. If Russell Westwood could shoot could really shoot he'd be the best player in the NBA number one better than LeBron James if he could really shoot he's never really been a shooter. But this is ridiculous. He shooting under twenty four percent from three and he's taking about five threes a game. Now, why is that significant because the thunder playing very well Stephen I'm shocked by how well the thunder playing. I knew they had talent. Stephen Adams is underrated obviously Westbrook and Paul George way Paul Georgia's playing it's all working for them. But I am shocked by how well Billy Donovan his coached up this team. And how well this team is playing particularly on the defensive end. And the reason that's significant in terms of Westbrook shooting who by the way has lost confidence entirely in terms of his shooting. I saw him more than once several times last night. Just pass up open. Looks just didn't want it confidence shot June from the outside, by the way for good reason. The reason it's significant the fact that the team is playing this. Well defense is playing this. Well is because the Golden State Warriors look Bomer -able right now, the Denver Nuggets are not the team that you look at all my God. No, one can stop them. Lebron James does not have another all star in LA. In other words, it is right in the west right now. And if the thunder wanna go from a team who can just challenge Golden State be tough out in the conference finals, something like that to a team that could win the championship this year Westbrook. Scott shoot, Stephen. It's not like he can play any harder. A lot of times a player can do better with more effort. There is no such thing as more effort than. Westbrook. He has got to shoot better than this. Because they had a chance to do the to win the whole thing this season. I'm not concerned about Russell Westbrook at all and anybody that wants to take someone listen I were very hard for a living. But I am I have no problem taking anybody's money that wants to come to me and bet against Russell Westbrook. In terms of this continue. This is not going to continue issued forty percent from the field. You're absolutely right and shoot about twenty two percent from three point range his shot is off. It's been absolutely horrid. He shot seventy percent and the game at Utah. He shot eighteen percent in a game at Dallas. He shot. Fifteen percent last night. This is all over the last seven games. So he is under a slump. But guess what? The speed is dead athleticism is the he can get to the whole at will. And so this is one of those situations where I'm just imagining. Okay, he's going to find his shot bought away his shot. Eight some long rate situation. I see Russel Westbrook going to the whole enough finish it the way. I'm accustomed to seeing him finish. Do I think that's going to last not this season? I'm not concerned about it at all. I also take into account this fat Dennis shooter who you picked up from Atlanta. What a tremendous pick Oklahoma City thunder as a backup point God in the NBA. I don't know if it can get much better. Oh, by the way, it's not just their Paul George has been playing like a superstar averaging thirty over the last month. This also remember the fact pull Georgia's actually taking more shots per game. Russell westbrook. So when you combine it with the fact that pull Georgia's taking more shots. Russell Westbrook is passing upshot albeit due to a confidence issue. Shoot us coming off the bench and be a productive Adams's being atoms. And then you've got guys like grant and others the young athletes that they have on the squat. I gotta tell you. I'm with you. In terms of Oklahoma City surprise. The hell out of me. It looks great. But I am not worried about Russell Westbrook. If you want to worry if you talking to me about the makers, I would be correct. But in terms of his abilities, his shot, his lack of aggression, his confidence Dole's categories. I have no concern. I'm concerned about a shop, particularly obviously the three point shot Stephen A four his career. He's under thirty one percent shoot of ax. What's that? He's not people that that's my point. And that's the problem in this era. If you want to win a championship, and you have a high a player with his higher usages. Russell westbrook. See a lot of people. We play armchair psychologist with Westbrook. Well, he wants to be the alpha. Even when the ranch there or that's his personality or he or he he takes too many shots. Whatever it is. When it's really very simple. He doesn't shoot well enough from the outside if he shot better from the outside he'd be he's so good as it is. He's among the top ten players in the game, even without a shop. But Stephen the reason that significant is maybe if these around like did the other you're thirty four percent from three which is good for even thirty two thirty three. They win the championship. But if he's under thirty percent particular twenty four twenty three twenty five percent, they are not going to win the title this. They need him to shoot better in order to win the. Thing. And they can if he does. Well, let's what I'm saying us this change in the narrative. Max fact, let's not let me tell you why. Because you're talking about Russell Westwood's gain overall over these years. I'm only talking about looking at him. Now compared to what we're accustomed to seeing him. I agree with you in terms of what the concerns are. But you're highlighting something. That's always been a concern. No, saying, the Russell Westbrook. We all know in love you're going to see that guy. What the thing is what I'm saying. Is they are deviations from the mean guys do a little better some years or a little worse in various ways right tho- a couple years ago. Westbrook did a little better than thirty thirty one percent for shot thirty four that was really good. Who's to say he can't do that much worse for the season shoot twenty five twenty six percent four two season. And I'm saying if that's this season they will not win the title. But if it's not if he can shoot thirty thirty two percents win the whole. Quickly on this guy's because there was another headline in this game. Pau Georgia lay not with the Lakers dominated though, dropping thirty seven points played against the Lakers at Staples Center for the first time since he signed his four year extension with the funder and Lakers fan Stephen were letting him have it every time he touched the ball. He would be booed. Steve. What would the Lakers have been with George? They would be definitely without question destined for the conference finals, they challenge for trip to the finals, if pull Georgia's looking this wet wit lebrons, J, they probably become an I'm not going to say, and they come out of the west because I still think there are levels to this. And I think that what people look at Golden State. Now, the thing that makes me laugh is that when you been the fourth straight NBA finals when you've won three championships understand that games November to mid April mean a hell of a lot more to us. Than they mean to them. It's a struggle for these dues to try their way through regular season because they know what they're going to be measured by Golden State has levels. I'm not gonna sit up there and say even with Paul, George the anybody definitively would be Kevin Durant, Steph curry Klay Thompson. And the crew what I am going to say is nobody else would be. Thinking about competing with the Lakers in the Western Conference. If pulled Georgia's playing like this because Paul George has returned yet that nasty injury. A couple of years ago he has returned and he has elevated himself back into the superstar caliber Kanda compensation. He's that special. I'm saying if Paul George woulda gone to the Lakers, they would win the championship this season as a free agent. You don't have to give up any of your young talent. And you just add another elite practically MVP, maybe a half step below that caliber two-way wing guys, the NBA is still as much as it's changed the most valuable thing in it. The most valuable player type of player you can have is elite two-way wing. I don't mean Klay Thompson who can shoot the lights out, and who can defend I mean, a two-way win who can drive who can shoot who can defend put it on the floor do everything when you have elite. Look think about the best players in the NBA. The other AD who came up as a point guard. Don't forget LeBron Kawai Greek freak Katie those are elite two-way wings. When did the Golden State Warriors get on beatable when they added elite two-way wing. What's the greatest of all time for anyone season? Seventy two win bulls too. Great to way, wings elite. When did the Miami, Heat, get impossible weight and LeBron to elite two-way wings? If you add that kind of guy to LeBron James with the young talent they have on the team I'm telling you it would have been this season. That's what the later on. They would've win championship. You're you're wrong. And one of the reasons you MRs because number one, even though LeBron James has definitely improved a shot at deserves a lot of credit. There's a question Mark as to how reliable that shot would become playoff Tom because he'd go to the whole a lot. He'd be a primary primarily to point score and ten instead of three point scored number one. And number two. I'm getting tired of people ignoring this. Lebron James at the. The free throw line is a liability at times, you cannot be ally ability against Golden State to lie your argument. That's ridiculous. Your argument is that Ron James team can't beat the Golden State Warriors, you're focusing on what LeBron James can't do yet. Gooden's knowledge the bottom line. Lebron James can do a lot of things. Lebron James, listen max, you gotta make up your mind already. Colder state you talking. They'll get me started with that stimulus package to Adam silver, and the NBA gave them a couple of you. Don't get one is this you keep forgetting your point. How many times of you sat up there right on this show when you're in studio, and you would say, quote does three points to you are the one who's made their religious, whatever you to you is that this that you don't have us a long range sniper. Joining Paul George to go up against Golden State. Prince LeBron James if your argument is LeBron James, plus two way wing is problematic because of the things LeBron James can't do in terms of winning championships. I'm saying you're nuts. I'm saying I'm saying what you can say. I'm not what you want to. I have facts to back it up. What's his record against Golden State it for BA finals? One and three up. About three. In fact, it's not one of three he got to a game six with Matthew Della Vedova is one of three. Yes. Or no. With respect to the military against seven kid. Ricky wanted three play. Got it. James ice thing. Kevin. Deliver for he's he's too against Kevin Durant. Kevin durant? Top liver. What Steph curry liver? Paul george. They said they'd be anybody. But go to stay. Yeah. And I'm just saying taking the Golden State out. I'll man all right guys. We're just getting started in about that one up. I'm glad I don't like liver. But let's go. Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced until one day when he was forty seven p realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how Geico proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So all worked out. All right coaching interview season is in full swing with eight spots available at this point among the names interviewed for positions. Hugh Jackson with Bengals this after the team part of ways with longtime coach Marvin Lewis who lobbied for the Bengals to give Jackson and opportunity now, sir with you in this one should the Bengals this into Lewis. Absolutely not. You know? Contrary to what people want to believe, I'm not gonna sit up paying tell you that. I enjoy calling for man to be fired. I've never taken any pleasure in that. But I'm dead serious. When I say that Marvin Lewis deserve to go Marvin Lewis deserve to go years ago. I never once said that Marvin Lewis does not deserve to be a head coach. What I said is marvelous doesn't deserve to be the head coach of Cincinnati. This pirate should've taken place at least four years ago. This man has been a coach in Cincinnati for sixteen years and never one one single playoff game. That is a travesty. We have to look at us system of opportunities, particularly in a capitalistic society. That is the national football this thirty two jobs. Okay. Everybody can't have it. Every year. We hear about coaches starving for opportunities for their chains to shine. I recognize the fact that Marvin Lewis what what he inherited it Cincinnati. How he turned around that franchise how he got them to the playoffs seven times when they were more franchise, and what have you? But when you continuously retain the services of a man that can't win a single playoff game. Spanning more than a decade you have a sexually said to the citizens of that respective city. We don't give a damn about how you feel. We don't give a damn about what you want. Just shut up give us money and common. Enjoy the game. All right. No matter the outcome. That is what you have done when you continuously retain into the visual. You don't have standards of excellent. Instead you have standards of mediocrity. And when you do that, you're also really hindering prohibiting of this from getting an opportunity to shine and give you more than what this particular individuals showed. He could give you in that respect of cities if more than Lewis was a head coach with somebody else to Morrow. I would not say a word. I don't believe that the man is devoid of being astute football mine and and knows the game. I'm not questioning that I'm saying at that particular job you had more than enough time and never produced. It was tough him to go. And if I'm gonna Bengals why would I listen to you recommend somebody when you could do anything for me for sixteen years? Come postseason, Tom. He's the last person that I would wanna hear recommendation from if I'm Cincinnati max. All right. I'll that's fine. I'm looking at Hugh Jackson as a coaching candidate himself. I don't think you can do it. Hugh Jackson, just did which was now look which was fail miserably. And then just get another head coaching job. Usually you gotta become a coordinator for some time. By the way. I don't I also don't think Hugh Jackson is necessarily disqualified forever being looked at again. But it's a little and considering what he just came out of now in his defense. He would say, and I know because he went on this media tour and appeared on our show as soon as he got fired he would say, which you may look at little thirsty, but he would say look I'm the head coach of a team that's not built to win. So I take them through that situation. And now when they finally have a little talent, let go of you could say well the team was trending in the wrong direction. He could point to the fact that they tied the Steelers to start the season. They had a field goal loss to the saints on the road. It's not a bad loss and beat the ravens early in the season. Like there were it's not as. But then they started losing. And basically Baker Mayfield was throwing into tight windows all over the place, and the team seemed this functional the point is, and we're gonna get into this later on Stephen. But you talk about constantly look in the good old boy network of the NFL, which is dominated by white coaches. A lot of guys get second and third and fourth and fifth and tenth looks at least if not jobs is Hugh Jackson so much worse than many of those candidates. No. But in should he be a head coach immediately of of a new team based on what he just did. Absolutely not. Well, I look at it. And I get where you're coming from an I'm totally which you on that. I like Hugh Jackson personally, but three thirty six one speaks for itself. You don't deserve a head coaching job immediately after coming off a record with that he made the media to and I didn't blame him one bit. Because what you wanna do is keep yourself in the mind's eye of football coaches out. The who would look to be a coordinator matter of fact, when we asked him what his goal was what is gender was. He was talking about becoming a cold. Ordination? He wasn't even talking about becoming a head coach because he recognized how bad the situation look. But getting back tomorrow the Louis where it comes down to is sixteen years without a playoff victory. You couldn't win me a playoff game. But I'm going to take your recommendation as to who might do it really really what kind of make that makes no sense whatsoever. I would not want to hear a damn word. To say if I'm Cincinnati somebody else fine. But not Cincinnati. Stephen, what's what's one of the major considerations? Apparently that the Bengals will think about when hiring the next head coach. They kind of go to the lowest bidder don't lowest bidder. That's what they do. That's why they're the Bengals refresher. They haven't done this in sixteen season. So. Sixteen years sixty.

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Suns Sweep, Bucks Bounce Back: NBA Playoffs with Kirk Goldsberry

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Suns Sweep, Bucks Bounce Back: NBA Playoffs with Kirk Goldsberry

"Thanks joe is not good. Rebound comes down to torrey craig. Pray gets the ball off the chris paul to circus one seconds son win and songs defeat denver in four straight games and the sons will move on to the western conference finals. Confidence is dangerous feeling last week you were sure. The nets are a title favorite super team. But this week. It's the phoenix suns shining through as injuries. Rain all over brooklyn's parade today. Kirk goldsberry maps out the weather system of these nba playoffs. Where chaos is the only sure thing in the forecast pablo torre. It's monday june fourteenth. This is espn daily kirk goldsberry. It is eleven pm eastern. You're staying up late with us. We appreciate it because we needed to make sense of the chaos. That was sunday in this insanely unpredictable. Nba postseason yeah. I mean this was a crazy day. Dr kirk goldsberry cartographer bestselling author professor at the university of texas and former vice president of strategic research for the san antonio spurs in. And we thought it was going to be crazy when kyrie irving injury happened early but then just when we thought was going to be relatively crazy went double crazy with this insane outcome in the nuggets game. Yeah i thought this evening was going to be like the nice countryside drive through today's episode. But we just watched the sun sweep the nuggets that much we were bracing ourselves for game. Four of a sweep is supposed to be boring. That's not what we got. I mean it's not every day kirk that you see the league. Mvp get in the middle of game for decking somebody in the face up chauffeur's so mad right now at pat fryer that now booker and start getting into it in the corner into the fruit. Roll the ma while this hurt it. If he's super her. You make see joker. Giddy checked at column of laura's been determined to be a flagrant foul penalty to on the polio. Who's been taught. How would you describe that particular sequence of events. Yeah more like most violent player in my right pablo it was nuts. It was uncharacteristic. Nickel yokich had a awesome season. He won the mvp rightfully a ran away from the pack but unfortunately we saw his season end with this lapse of reason he got frustrated. His team was losing. He let his emotions get away from him. And he basically swiped through campaigns face in my opinion the refs made the right call there to give him a flagrant to into eject him from the game but it was a very disappointing moment and really sad way of for this great. Mvp of yoga to end. Yeah i don't know anybody who felt great about that happening. Even suns fans. I think might have been furious in the way that i was furious. Which is simply because that occurred in the middle of chris paul kind of achieving a higher level of consciousness. Kurt he'd been dominant in a way that was both familiar and staggering. And look you make. Nba maps off the floor itself. You understand how players have all their favorite spots on the floor. How would you describe his relationship with the right elbow at this point at age. Thirty six will chris paul first of all had a great series play priest. He's the leader of this descendant sons team. At age thirty six. He was making all the plays we associated with chris. He's making very few. Mistakes is assist to turnover ratio. This series was insane but as a scorer. He saved the best for last. He saved the best for this game. Four if pablo the nba floor were monopoly board in different players. Different places on that board chris. Paul would own the right elbow wrist next to free parking. He would be there. He has been the most prolific and the most efficient shooter in that exact area for years. So it was kind of poetic to see him play one of his best games of his lustrous career and have so many of these beautiful right elbow off the dribble shots. That are just unstoppable. Despite his relatively small stature he made eight mid range shots in the second. Half as phoenix. Clinched the series. We've seen it for years but as you alluded to. If there's something crazy he's thirty six he's at the end of what many people just a few years ago considered to be one of the worst contracts in the nba. Well yes now. He's just led the suns past. Lebron james and ralph and the mvp in round to this point. God he's not quite done yet. It's insane kirk. That i am somebody who's about to turn thirty six. Th this year is someone who is roughly like five ten or so and chris. Paul is doing this. Despite biologically being in any way similar to me like i i don't get it. You're also kirk. I want to put it in these terms like he deserves something like an honorific. Some special certificate a degree like is there in doubt professorship we can give him at this point because he has thirty seven and is basically teaching the class the master class in how to play point guard in the modern nba. I think there's other sports we can take take these lessons from. I think in boxing. They say somebody's the pound for pound best fighter in the world. He seems to be that in our sport because he's so slight relative to the other great players. That's who chris paul is. He's an academic. He knows how to play basketball. You know all the little tricks better than anybody else in the game period on that was on full display. Not just tonight in this series. I think a lot of us picked the sons to beat the nuggets. But i don't think many of us pick them to sweep them white this and he also has that confidence kirk that comes from having seen pretty much everything that comes from being a guy who was older than everybody and has suffered more than anybody else at this point because i want to bring up two points here. One the assistant turnover rate that. You mentioned i did this. Longhand fifty nine to eight. This six game win streak. Which i mean that's interplanetary but then the second data point on chris paul of course is that he has never made an nba finals. And so when you evaluate him in retrospect as nba fans will. Do i wonder like how are we going to think of him. Because his legacy and like he's thrown around all the time but in this particular case it feels incredibly appropriate. It feels like that steak right now at least for that rings counting group of people that need their superstar players and whatever sport to win it all to be sort of deemed a great player. But yeah i feel like his legacy. At least part of it is up for on trial right now if they get over the western conference finals and into the finals. Yes that will change the conversation about chris. Paul and certainly pablo if chris. Paul comes out of this with a championship at age. Thirty six which is plausible in a way that. I didn't think it was two weeks ago saying if chris. Paul ends up with a championship. Oh my gosh. This is like i guess. I don't know like a late air championship for john. Elway that's the best example. I would have across borders. The guy who is the other superstar. And maybe that's debatable. Still because he's so young. Booker is under twenty five years old still but the other guy at least playing like a superstar. Genuine one is devon booker. Who had thirty four points in this game. And lebron had called him kirk. V most underrated and disrespected player in the nba. And here they are now in the western conference finals. One step away from taking phoenix back to the finals for the first time since nineteen ninety-three when you watch devon booker play and the role that he has on this team. How would you describe. How good is he he's awesome. I mean he's still a kid. He's twenty four years old but he's already been itching. His sixth season in the league has a lot of experience. But this organization and phoenix. He's had so many different head coaches there'd been no stability around him but he still managed to develop into one of the best scores in the world and as a result of his sort of being sort of struggling in bad phoenix environments until this year many many nba fans have never watched him play on a big stage. Because he simply hasn't been in the postseason ever before but as a result here he is. It's his introduction. He's a natural born scorer. He's one of the few scores in the league that can score efficiently from every level whether it's at the rim in the mid range from behind the three point line what i like about the best remember when they were playing the lakers in round one chris. Paul was really hurt. Yes here and devon booker needed to step up and he did. He's already showed up in these playoffs. And he's such a young player the future brighton phoenix if he stays there. So let's talk about the present for the phoenix suns right now. Because i want to ask this very bluntly are the best team. Left in this postseason As we stand here today. Late at night on june thirteenth kirk because i look at their roster and how it's constructed from de'andre eight in who is the big man who can move who can run rim to ram to this collection of wing players that seemingly all can shoot threes and play defense. I struggled to identify a weakness quintessential nba team. They have like the five traditional positions. Locked up there for great coach agreed bench But deondraye eight. And i'm glad you brought him up. He enabled monty williams. Who should have one coach of the year in my opinion to single cover. Yokich in this series took away a lot of his playmaking abilities. Portland's doubleteaming yoga's just makes the right play because he's so gifted as a playmaker eight and really gave the sun's a huge gift in this series on defense by manning up against the best center in the league and holding his own against the mvp which really set the tone. But you're exactly right. This is a very complete basketball team there to way team. They're very good on offense and they're very good on defense. We already mentioned chris. Paul devon booker the andrea pretty good vig and then mikhail bridges. Jae crowder are great wings. Mckell bridges is is one of my favorite young sort of three guys which is another huge or role in the modern mba. He can shoot. Can hit floaters in good defender lee. So they can do it all to answer your question. And i'm glad you sort of gave me the caveat because things change very fast in these playoffs right now as we sit here on the night of june thirteenth are the best team. All right kirk after the break. I want to move from the nice sleep. That suns fans are gonna get tonight to the other sleeplessness in brooklyn with no fees or minimum on checking and savings accounts banking with capital. One is like the easiest decision in the history of decisions kind of like choosing the listen to another episode of your favorite podcasts and with our top rated app you can deposit checks and transfer money anytime anywhere making capital one and even easier decision. That is banking reimagined. What's in your wallet. Terms apply capitol. Na member fdic so kirk. I want to be fully transparent with you because this is an episode that i saw as of last week when we were trying to schedule out this week i saw this as a tribute to the brooklyn nets. It looked like they were gonna sweep the milwaukee bucks. It looked like they were the team. That had great clarity atop the ecosystem of the nba playoffs. But again here we are and james harden has gone with hamstring tightness. Kyrie irving has a rolled ankle which knocks him out of. today's game. Four called by steve nash and it appears to be the right ankle of kyrie irving. That's caused brooklyn to stop play here in india and so the team that had just one game two by thirty nine points. They end up on the receiving end of milwaukee crowd that has chanting box in six as the bucks win by eleven and that feels plausible suddenly. How much has changed in the series in a word pablo. Everything has changed. I mean you're exactly right. I looked like they were going to steamroll their way through this series. Milwaukee won a really ugly game three then game four started. It was even and then at the end of the second quarter. Kyrie irving got hurt. And that i think is the big story in the series. Potentially i think brooklyn could have won this series with two of their big three. I'm not sure if they can win it with one of the big three. yeah game. Three kirk the end of that game a common takeaway was brooklyn nets. Fans should actually feel even more confident now even though they lost that game because it felt like the bucks sort of ever play mario kart and you get hit with like a red shell right at the finish line. You're sort of spin backwards into a victory. That's what the bucks felt like after game three but now it seems pretty clear that there's a talent disparity in a direction that none of us anticipated in that. The milwaukee bucks suddenly are more talented than the brooklyn nets. Yeah i think there's a few big themes in these playoffs number one. I think we're seeing new faces like the andrea eytan endeavour booker's alluded to earlier but another big theme. Unfortunately as injuries were seeing it. With anthony davis and lebron james We with james harden. The list goes on and on and it goes on and on to kyrie irving when this series started remember james harden played about the first forty five seconds of it but before he got hurt brooklyn three of the best four players in this series three superstores james harden kevin durant and kyrie irving hard. Got hurt in game. One kyri gets hurt hearing game for if they can't play milwaukee's big three or now representative of the best players in series so jaanus onto kumbo jrue holiday and chris middleton joined kevin durant now in that group of four players so the whole power balance in this series has switched from brooklyn superstars to milwaukee's if in this a big if if kyrie or harden is unable to go in games five and six the let's talk about how janas has been looking in this series because it's been bizarre kirk even still i mean the free throw psychology is its can of worms where he can't pull the trigger in under ten seconds sometimes which feels it's just it's it's weird that were in the postseason that's still happening but even on top of that in these two straight wins. Jaanus is still insisting on shooting threes even though he is truly terrible at it i mean what do you see when you watch right now. And what would you like him to do differently over the last time to talk to you about the ten second rule because i have a very good take on that but the last time was on this podcast. We talked about russell westbrook who is also an mvp who also has a maddening. Shot selection and for whatever reason janas has escaped the same sort of critique. The russell westbrook has for years now but no more from me at least jaanus to stop shooting these threes. He's a terrible jump shooter and often. There's this opportunity cost associated with those jump. Shots one less driving rim attack for as well so look. Jaanus is at his best when he's getting to the rim they're going to beat the nets if he can continue to do what he did today if he can punish this small team without a traditional rim-protector and score a lot of points in the paint so when he shoots threes brooklyn fans rejoice in. That's not good. If you're rooting for the bucks. He was really good in game. Four but i think a lot of us are starting to think that if he leaned into those room attacks more in his jumpers less he could reach another gear. And so could this team. Yeah i watch. Honest as a sixers apologised kirk. And i just imagined ben simmons smiling to himself because ben simmons gets yelled at all the time for not shooting and janas is the case. Study in favor of ben. Simmons is world. You know that's right. There's three of these guys in the world. Now there's there simmons there's onto kumho and there's westbrook and they all get like we're different kinds of criticism. We should probably be more consistent with that across those three guys. But maybe that's a good article idea the other thing with this ten second clock. Can i get to this. Tell me tell me about your take. Because i am intrigued by the psychology of. It's not about psychology. It's about imagine a world where the twenty four second clock that we're all familiar with the nba was just obscured from the players right. You just didn't know where in the twenty four seconds you're that would change the the sort of the vibe around of course that's not there we have the thing. It's a big bread set of numbers above the backboard on both ends of the court right. But when you says this ten second rule he doesn't know how many seconds he has left. You know a why. Don't we use the shot clock. Hey we have a thing called the shot clock set a ten count it down. And so he knows where he is in the sequence. It just drives me crazy. That we have this digital apparatus ready to use for this exact thing and he's got to do it in in his head for these. Come on you mentioned. Kevin durant before and the internet kirk k. d. They often do as we often do. Let's be honest the protagonist of today's game but it seems like the bucks have done things to ratchet up the difficulty level. four k. d's specifically and that ratchet seems to be named. Pj tucker so. What are you seeing in that specific matchup but talked about how these new additions to the milwaukee roster changed the vibe in milwaukee and. Pj tucker is a huge part of that. As a at the university of texas nikolay qualified to address this pablo because both kevin durant and pj tucker and both had long nba careers but tucker specifically is built a reputation as one of the most aggressive most competitive defenders in the league for years. He's tough as nails and he looks at this kind of an assignment against kevin durant and a playoff series and he gets excited and he wants to prove to the world that he's a problem and look nobody is going to stop kevin durant but tucker is doing a good job containing him and frustrating him. We've seen it and both games. Three and four kevin's losing his temper. You can see it out there and a lot of that has to do with sort of the annoying ineffective aggressive defense. The pj tucker's being been able to play. So kevin durant is in need of help kirk. That's where we are right now again late on a sunday night we need to get kevin durant help is what every brooklyn nets. Fan is thinking. So what does the forecast for kyri and and look like as of right now. And if they can't play who's going to play point guard stay tuned. Nothing is for certain at this. Point in time is not on their side. They're they're scheduled to play again. On tuesday thursday in if game seven happens on saturday so there's traveled as and very little off time to recover according to steve nash. Hardin resume some on core work. But that doesn't seem like he's had a bunch of any full court work yet little on anything close to a playoff intensity as irving The most recent reporting suggests more tests are needed to fully diagnose his ankle injury he was seen walking out of the milwaukee arena with a boot and crutches That's not a great sign on i. If they can't go who plays point guard. Kevin durant kevin durant brought the ball up for thirty three possessions tied for his most in a game. This season game four and that was tied with how many times he did it in game. Three kevin durant is their major on ball player in a world where kyrie and james or are not able to play so kirk at the very end here. Just want to inquire about your psychology. Because you're somebody who needs to analyze games make predictions. You're called into service to be confident about basketball analysis. What has this postseason. So far felt like to you. It's been crazy and it's been fun. I mean for me. It's been fun to see the fans back in the buildings. I think that's been my number one thing. I forgot how much fun those playoff crowds can be. Sometimes a little dangerous But mostly fund. And i think the big lesson so far is that you've got to trust the regular season a little bit. I mean at least in the western conference. People were very quick to dismiss the utah jazz and the phoenix suns. As if they weren't the best teams all year long and here they. Are you know. Both of them could very easily be in the western conference. Finals is the one in two-seat and in the eastern conference philadelphia seventy sixers still alive in the blocks nets. Top three teams. So i think you know the regular season is still does portend a little bit what we're going to see in the postseason and another sort of bad lesson we talked about this earlier is that injuries are always going to change the course of some of these years and for me. I think we're going to set a record for how many all storage miss playoff action this season. with kyrie's injury. Unfortunately so i don't know if that has something to do with our shortened offseason pablo remember. The nba had a really short off season and after the bubble in our resumption but whatever the causes. That's a big thing. To kirk goldsberry. The nba premier met maker. Thank you for showing us the way through this first round and a half of the playoffs. My pleasure thanks for me. All right coming up. We call up the biggest nets fan west of the mississippi for the ones finding new ways to ensure the job always gets done and the ones wearing many hats. Grainger grainger offers supplies and solutions for every industry as well as free access. The products specialists twenty four seven support and experienced staff and over two hundred and fifty local branches. Because grainger is always there for all the ones who get it done. Call click grainger dot com slash daily or. Just stop by. So i wanted to have you on mostly to make fun of you. I have to admit because you are the preeminent nets superfan in sports media. I mean we could talk about their performance since hardin joined the team or we could talk about how great they've been since. I enjoyed the team and auckland fan as a week and a half ago. They'd gone four. No and does it have to do is to say but then i realized i need to explain how it is. You became the preeminent nets fan sports media in the first place so we check the twitter receipts on this so it has four months to the day you join this bandwagon on february thirteenth. Twenty twenty one so before we get into how you're feeling today. And the poking and prodding on that how would you just explain the origin story of how it is that we got here well pablo. I was watching basketball regular season basketball. Obviously and i was watching with great interest because that was the first time that james harden kevin durant kyrie irving where all playing together it was against the warriors So the nets big three was finally action. And i it just as a basketball fan i wanted to watch and then i noticed how angry people on twitter were about the existence of the big three in all things nets and i thought it would be funny to decide in that moment to become a superfan as sort of he'll turn by the way that data's notable because i have been a net superfan longer than mike james who may have to start for. The nets has been on the net. Sorry i'm just had to get here. We go here. We we are at the point. Where you you're like the first person to find undervalued real estate in brooklyn like the fact that you were on the jumbotron at barclay center in may as part of asian american pacific islander heritage month which is deserved on the merits. But just to see your face on the jumbotron. I was both so wildly jealous and also sort of like wondering what reality is anymore. Yeah i know especially since you have bandwagon but you became a sixers process truth years ago at this point and i don't think you've been on the jumbotron to the best of my knowledge. If bandwagoning involves paying in blood for years then yes. I did bandwagon. And you're right though. I do want daryl morey to know that that is a fact that you just gave been so celebrated but all of which is to say that you aligned with the formation of this big three and we are talking today when you are aligned with a big one so to two tied with the bucks. Kyri injured james harden out. What is your emotional state like right now as this net superfan not great. Pablo not great. It's like when you don't know how much you really care for someone until they break up with you or they're gone or you're separating kind of feel the nuts like i became a superfan ingest but these are real feelings that i'm having feelings of agony and of course it's never good for basketball. Win superstars of james harden kyrie irvings caliber or not playing in the playoffs in. That's true of any team any star but especially not good for the brooklyn nets because they are You know rather top heavy roster and it's a topic roster that despite the origin story. In which i watched the big three has has really played very little basketball with all three of those stars together. I mean it is funny to be though like this all started off as kind of a bit but now like and this. Is i think the true test of anyone's fandom your shame your humiliation on the internet is on the line. We'll start every single gauge. I agree with that. But well it's actually. I would argue that. It's less humiliating at this point if they lose because there's an obvious reason right which is the injuries whereas if the nets big three had all played together and they had still lost and this is a team that very much in its healthy state should win at all. I think that would have been more humilating. Not just for me. But for actual longtime mets fans and for the franchise at this point goodness. I mean. they're so banged up. I'm not making excuses. I feel this way but any team that loses the star. I felt this way but the lakers when anthony davis was clearly heard You know it is a league where you do need more than one star typically to win They certainly face off battle. My beloved brooklyn nets so your beloved seattle seahawks your beloved seattle mariners. I mean those are the teams that you've lived and often died with for decades. Now i guess as you sort of survey the landscape of your personal fandom. Are you concerned that you have now cursed the brooklyn nets. Well pablo. Unless i am directly responsible for janas gigantic foot getting in the way of kyrie irvings normal employed hitting the ground. I'm not blaming on this. Just saying switz- very large and it was very much in the way. I do not take responsibility for this injury. Look we don't know what kerry status is at the moment. But and i doubt they're going to rush hardened back but i'll say this kevin durant i think is one of the you know the best players in the world and a player who has the talent the rare gifts. I think to put this team on his back. It's not something that happened in this game. Of course it wasn't something that they expected. But i imagine going into game five he will be playing with a sense of mission Something prove if you will. And i have faith in his talents and i gotta say. I am rooting for the nats glowering. Really i'm rooting for. And i think you know why i think you know what because you think they're going to be easier for the sixers to be. Oh my god. It's going to be amazing. And i think it's going to i i can. I can see myself on the jumbotron iraq a half be preeminent nets fan in the stupid business we work in thank you for bearing yourself neten seven while i'm pablo torre and this has been. Espn daily. i'll talk to you tomorrow.

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