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"Slash equine. Guys, plenty of great topics to jump into on today's program. But before we do, Dale, I just had one question for you. What are the odds that there will be a cyclone rolling through Churchill downs on the first Saturday in May? Looks pretty good right now. You know, that's the most exciting horse I've had in a few years and the race over here the other day was special. I think that he's definitely a Derby contender. A lot of strives between here and there, but that's what we're pointing. Talking about cyclone mischief who won that allowance race. Now pointed to what, the holy bull Dale? I'm not sure yet. We're going to train on him a little bit and see if we want to just wait for maybe like to found a use of Florida Derby or if we want to run all three of them. And just see how he goes the next week or so we'll sit down and talk about it. Timmy Dale says this is the most exciting prospect he's ever had, the Derby prospect. Is he right or wrong? I've known Dale long time. And I know he gets excited about his horses a lot. Which he should be, which he should, because that's his job. I mean, I've heard the tale before and a lot of times he's right, but sometimes he's wrong. I think I watched that race the other day, and this horse does look like he's got some ability. So I'm saying it's right on this one. There you go, Jimmy. Yeah, I'll say this. He looks like he has a lot more upside to him Dale. I don't think you've reached the bottom of this horse yet. No, I have not, I think he's got a lot of room to improve. And I don't know, this year I was thinking when we get close up, Mike called my man Nick zito having come help me. He went twice, maybe he could give me some tips. Yeah. That's not a bad man to call in out of the bullpen. If you have to do it, Nick's a good one to get the call. All right, cool. Well, good luck with cyclone, mischief. We'll see where he ends up next. Congrats on that big win last week. Let's dive into the first topic. Trainer Brad Cox, who currently has three of the 6 top ranked Kentucky Derby contenders and has 6 of the top 15 in the latest point standings. He has Jace's road instant coffee, victory formation, logins, verifying an angel of empire, which of those 6 gives Brad the best chance of success on the first Saturday in May. Timmy, why don't you kick it off? Boy, that's a loaded question, man, because here we are. We're just passed into the first of the year and we're already trying to say which one of his horses has the best chance to win The Kentucky Derby. I mean, right now I'm going to say none of them because I think they all have to show more than what they have. Because they're young horses. And a couple of them have done some nice things. I mean, the reformation won the smarty Jones and the angel of empire was second in that race and verifying the horse that broke its maiden Saratoga the sun had justified. I was really impressed with then. Your second in the champagne. But you know, Brad is he's got like a bushel full of other horses that could be better than any of these. I mean, he's got a bunch of un started horses that could make The Kentucky Derby trail and just to pinpoint one right now. I don't think it's fair to anybody, but you know, he does have a bunch of them that are good. And I think that, you know, come the first Saturday, may, he's going to be well represented. I mean, last year he started three of them. And only his second Derby after essential quality a mandolin the year before, but Brad Cox will be well represented in this year's Kentucky Derby with who I don't know. It's too hard, too tough a question. I asked just about one horse out of that group, but definitely better to have a shotgun in a BB and he's got a shotgun right now. He's got plenty of them out there and he's doing taking good care of him. He's doing the right things and I think you might see him may with several starters. Well, if you were to, if you were to narrow down, guys, just one of those 6. Timmy said none of the 6 because all I have to show more, but Dale, if you looked at Jace's road, instant coffee, victory formation, logins verifying angel of empire, off the top of your head at first glance, you've seen some of these instant coffee won the Kentucky jockey club. Who gives them the best chance right now? I'll go, I think JC Rhodes got a lot of upside to it. You know, it's part of buying him and we're all balls and I think he's got a lot of upside and a lot of room to improve and it's really a talented horse. So if
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"With more than 285,000 followers on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. If you're not already a follower of bloodhorse on social media, get started today. Great news for those of us who like to bet the turf races, great news for fans of the fairgrounds, great news for the horsemen and the riders at the fairgrounds that the turf course is progressing and it sounds like they are all set to go a week from Monday to get back on that beautiful turf course. All right, next three races we're going to look at, take place in Oak Lawn park and Remington park, respectively, we're going to start in Hot Springs, Arkansas, where they've got two stakes on their card tomorrow afternoon. The first of which is the $150,000 point set for Phillies and mayors going 5 and a half furlongs. Nice field of 8 set to go to post in this race and the morning life favorite is number two Caribbean caper for Al stahl junior and Colby Hernandez Caribbean caper started her career like a house of fire. She reeled off 5 straight wins to begin her career. Those were all last year when she was a three year old Philly, her two races this year as a four year old Philly, although they're not poor efforts, they have not been winning efforts, and they don't quite look as good as what we saw from her last year. So I don't know what's happened. A lot of times you think that three year olds will be better as four year olds, but who knows why she was gone after September 25th and what took her 11 months to get back to the races. Whatever it is, she doesn't look like she's quite as good this year yet as what she showed us last year. So because of that, I'm going to try to beat her and I'm going to go to the Philly just outside of her number three novel squall for John Ortiz and Ricardo Santana junior. Now, the good and the bad with novel squall is this. Her good races, like what she showed two and three races back at keelan and Oak Lawn this spring, I think not only would beat this field would beat this field easily. She ran third in the carousel, a nice steak at Oak Lawn last spring, behind acting out and Frank's rockette. She came off that effort, dropped into a three other than allowance race at keenland, was sent off the 8 to 5 favorite and won by almost ten lengths. Off that win, they tried her in the grade three winning colors against consin and joyful cadence and little tootsie and some tough competition. And she was so good in those previous starts that she was only 7 at two in that grade three race. And she ran forth, but she really wasn't very close. She got beat 14 lanes, and now she's been gone. Since the end of May. So I think things went a little bit awry for novel squall that day, either she just didn't run or race or something happened to her in the race now. She's coming back off this extremely long layoff, but she has a strong series of works in her since all the way back in the middle of September. In fact, 11 listed works for novel squall for her return of the races, I would expect her to fire a big shot first time out. And her big shot is usually good enough, novel squall is four to one on the morning line. And I think she's got a big shot in the point of setup. By the way, interesting to note, Ricardo Santana junior listed as the writer on novel squall. That race goes at three 18 central time. I know Ricardo Santana junior is set to ride in the springboard mile somewhere around ten 45 central time. So he's going to hop a quick flight or a private jet or somewhere to get from Hot Springs over to suburban Oklahoma City to get there for those big mounts later in the night, but novel squall. I like her chances in the point set. Let's move ahead to the 9th race tomorrow at Oak Lawn park. And this is the $200,000 tinsel, three year olds and up going a mile and an 8th. We've got a field of 8 going to post here and interesting to know Ricardo Santana junior also riding in this race. So he's going to have about 5 hours, four and a half, 5 hours to get from one place to the other, and that's not including showering, cleaning up whatever else he's got to do. The tinsel is an intriguing race. Number three run classic is a horse who has a race two races back sprinting at keenland that would demolish this field. Every other race that run classic is run, would not demolish this field. They might have given him a chance to be right there, but he certainly is an ascent. And it begs the question of whether or not he's better as a sprinter than he is as a router. He looked like he was well on his way to winning at a mile and a 16th last time out and got nailed in the final strides by Farmington road, remember Farmington road at one point was a Kentucky Derby trail type of horse that would come from way off the pace. I'm not sure a mile and an 8th is what run classic wants. You might be the most talented horse in the race. Just not really sure that this is where he wants to be. I'm going to use him in my horizontal place because I hate to leave out the horse that I think has the most talent, but I'm going to put number one last samurai on top. I think he's been coming out of the best races, and he's also run well at a mile in an 8th, in fact he won the great two Oakland handicap last year or last spring at a mile and an 8th obviously at Oklahoma park two wins, by the way, from 6 career starts on the track at Oakland. Recently, last samurai to be perfectly honest has been running against horses that he can't meet. He ran against proxy in west willpower in last time out in the Clark. He lost a west willpower in the fae yet. He lost an art collector among others in the Charles town classic. It's just running in grade one and grade two races and he's not a great one, great two type of a horse. I know he won the Oakland handicap last year. That field was not as tough as these other grade one grade twos that he's running recently. But you know what? It's hard to sometimes hard for connections to realize that maybe they don't need to be in those gigantic races. Well, this is certainly a softer spot for last samurai. What odds would proxy or west willpower or art collector or olympiad or American revolution, some of the horses that he's been running in if they were in this race?
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Gets darker earlier than even normal. They move their post times up. So they've actually finished the card at aqueduct already the 9th and final race which was supposed to go, oh, I don't know about 5 minutes from now actually went about 8 minutes ago, so no aqueduct racing on the show today. As I mentioned, fairgrounds, Oak Lawn, Gulfstream park live, two big races this weekend around the country for two year olds, both worth points on The Kentucky Derby trail, assuming that the horses do not run with the medication Lasix, the springboard mile out at Remington park and the low south futurity for many, many years known as the Hollywood futurity out in Southern California. We're actually going to have Remington's track announcer Dale day on with us right at the start, I think, of our number two to talk about this year's springboard mile on the other stakes on tomorrow's Remington really a great card tomorrow night at Remington park and a couple of really good two year olds going to square off in the springboard mile. Phone lines are open if you'd like to call in and be part of the show 888-966-4776 is the number. That's triple 8 9 6 6 hr and also you can always email me directly Bobby at horse racing radio net that's BO BBY. I answer all of my emails good or bad and actually had several emails. You know what? I'm just going to do this right off the top because I don't want to get too into it. There were a lot of emails that have come in over the last few weeks. Regarding a certain track announcer that's just started at one of the tracks out east. It's not a track we cover regularly here on the network as they run early part of the weekend, not Thursdays, Fridays or on weekends, basically for the most part. I'm just going to say this. I agree with most of your emails as far as this, the ability of this announcer. I would be a little bit more upset with the person or people who made the decision to hire this person. Because it seems to me like they either don't care about their customers or don't care about their product. I think the best thing you can do instead of sitting there on Twitter and whatever you're doing all day, complaining about it is just don't bet it. The biggest middle finger you can give to something is to just completely refuse to give them your patronage and your money. And there are plenty of other options out there. And if you really don't like what's going on at this particular racetrack, don't bet it. There are plenty of other choices. That's all I'm going to really say about that. That's kind of the way I look at it. I mean, if it's, for instance, I mean, you've heard free. I've said this many, many years. I don't like turf sprints. The reason I don't like turf sprints is because I'm not very good at handicapping turf sprints. It's not like, you know, I just see a race and immediately start to throw up. Oh my God, it's a turf race that's less than a month now. That's not that. I'm just not very good at them. And so I just refused to better my skip right over them with the exception of when we need to talk about them for the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets or handicap and handicapping them when it comes to breeders cup time. That's just my opinion. So but otherwise, I don't pay attention. It doesn't bother me that I'm not paying attention to them. And I would say the same to you as far as this, that there's something going on at a racetrack that you don't like or makes your ears bleed. Don't pay attention. Don't watch, don't bet there are plenty of other options. Okay, once again, live racing today from Gulfstream park, Oak Lawn park and fairgrounds, lots of other news to get into as well. Good stretch call to open up the show of the 2014 edition of the low south futurity formerly the Hollywood fertility, of course it was at Hollywood park for many, many years from 1981 until Hollywood park shuttered. So the final year, it was at Hollywood, was on that synthetic track. They had for a few years and 2013, then it moved to low sala and it's been there ever since Bob Baffert has won the race with Dortmund in 2014. He's actually won this race 13 times, which is just ludicrous. But the funny thing is if you think about it, this low south futurity, it's not quite the same as it was when it was over in Hollywood park. First of all, way back when, when it was at Hollywood park, back in the mid to late 80s, and even into the 90s, it was a grade one, $1 million race. So you would have bigger fields, obviously running for grade one status, and for a $1 million. Now it is a grade two $200,000 race. In fact, it was lowered from $300,000 last year down to $200,000 this year and it's been a great two for the last several years and basically for the last several years. It's been Bob Baffert with two or three runners and maybe two or three other horses in against him. It's never a big field. And this year is no different. It's just a field of 5, which kind of stinks. For those of us that are fans of the game, wish that we could get bigger fields for this race, but downgrade down purse and listen, it's just people don't want to run against two and three Bob Baffert horses, especially when most of the time he's got the best ones, but Dortmund was one of the ones who got the job done for Bob Baffert. In fact, he started a 7 year win streak for Bob Baffert trainees back in 2014, only stopped last year by Doug O'Neill's slow down Andy. I'm going to say go out on a limb and say Bob Baffert gets back to the winner's circle in the futurity at Los alamitos once again tomorrow. All right, let's get out for some live racing action. Today we're going to start at Gulfstream park, 9th and final race on their card today. About a minute away from post time looks like they're actually still on the turn warming up or on the back stretch and they've got to get to the 7 furlong point in the shoot. 7 furlongs on the fast main track 74° right now in hallandale beach mostly cloudy skies. They actually had some rain early on today and the fact that they took yesterday and the day before is races off the turf. I thought they'd probably take today's off, but nope, they left it on despite the fact that there was a little rain and somehow it's rated firm. So I have no idea how to handicap when they decide they want to run on the turf at Gulfstream park. This 9th and final race is a 12 5 claiming event. These are three year old Phillies or Phillies and mayors four and up that are non winners of three races lifetime going the 7 furlong distance scratch numbers one and two. Leaves us with a field of 7 going to post. Right now, number three, amazing trip is the one who's getting most of the play at the windows, 7 to two on the morning line, but 9 to 5 right now for the team of Jose Deangelo and Edgar ziya's Jose D'angelo's interesting. He's a South Florida based trainer, one of the trainers that stays in South Florida all year round and he's a high percentage trainer in South Florida. I always wonder how these trainers who were their year round are going to do when the quote unquote big name trainers come in.
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Book here on the horse racing radio network and we are on the eve of this year's Belmont Derby invitational is now the Caesars Belmont Derby invitational and we're pleased to be joined right now by the senior vice president and chief development officer for Caesar's digital Dan Shapiro. Dan, welcome to bedding with Bobby. We're on the eve of a great race, my friend. Yeah, it's good to be back with you, Bobby. It is a great, it's a great race. When I saw the draw and saw the field, 13 horses, just a great betting race. I've always loved betting three rolls in the turf. So couldn't have asked for a better running of the inaugural Caesars Beaumont Derby. 13 horses in all have entered for the Caesars Belmont Derby invitational. It's a mile and a quarter on the inner turf, a grade one race with a purse of a $1 million on the line. Real good mix of horses that have been performing well here in North America and some horses that look very dangerous from across the pond. Yeah, that's right. Real solid mix here. I mean, I think I know the Europeans were strong last year, but I do think there are some pretty good locally based horses that are in a given tussle this year. So I really think the racing officer put together a really really great field and a really good betting race. I'm not even sure who's going to be favored in the race. Did you have somewhere that you were going to lean in this spot? Yeah, I mean, I liked it at long shots. I think, look, I think maybe the favorite is Stone Age or our nation's pride toward the outside, but a couple of couple were catching my eye in here, number three, Napoleonic war for Chad Brown, leaving Pratt, you know, coming off that effort and the pennine ridge. I think this is the kind of improving, lightly raised three year old that could be really strong in the spot. You got ten to one morning line. Side dog is another one who ran big on big on Derby day down at Churchill and it looks to be improving for Graham motion and then I'll even throw in a horse like machete coming in from France. Could be a bit of a sleeper in here. What do you do with a horse like classic causeway who of course was on The Kentucky Derby trail and actually ran in The Kentucky Derby this year showed signs of life last time out in the Ohio Derby, but is trying turf for the first time. He's bred to handle it. He's by giants causeway out of a thunder gulch mayor, but stepping into a pretty deep part of the waters. Yeah, I mean, I think he's a toss out for me. I just think it's real tough to face grade one turf horses. In your first item, the turf, yeah, he's got the breeding, but I also think it's going to be tough to go wire wire in this race, mile and a quarter. So I mean, to me, classic causeways toss out. But wouldn't it be surprised if he took some money in here? Talking with Dan Shapiro from Caesar's digital Dan, we're seeing Caesar's pop up a lot more often when it comes to horse racing these days. Obviously, they're the title sponsor of betting with Bobby presented by Caesar's race book. But when it comes to sponsoring a big race like the Belmont Derby, how is that come together? How do the sides decide on actually doing the sponsorship and what race you want to sponsor? Yes, it's a great question. So when sports betting when it looked like sports betting was going to go live this year in New York, speaking with an Ira folks, Tony and David o'rourke about working together to promote our sportsbook app in New York. And we said, hey, let's put together a great package here that includes some signage and some things on track, some emails. And then they said, well, we've got this turf triple series. This would be a great opportunity for Caesar's to be the title sponsor of it. And if you remember, going back, this is going back 25, 30 years ago. Caesar's did sponsor a race down at Atlantic City race course in the turf that was one by a lot of great horses over the years. So kind of making that connection. Going way back to Caesars and being a sponsor of world class turf racing. It kind of all just fit together and made sense. So we have these three great $1 million races to put our name on grade one race tomorrow at Oman. It's just made a lot of sense and it's a great way to get Caesar's both Caesar sportsbook and Caesar's race book exposure to horse race and betters. Both in New York and beyond. The race you're talking about at Atlantic City. I remember the Caesars international very well. I think it used to be the United Nations. In fact, it might have been the United Nations before and after. It was the Caesars international, but I remember horses like sand pit and lore and sky classic and steinlen all winning that race down in Atlantic City and you write that was one of the premier turf races not only in the country, but in the world for the time that Caesars was sponsoring it, I think, in the early to mid 90s, so it's been quite a while. We've got another great race tomorrow in that Caesars Belmont Derby invitational. Aside from that though, other exciting things going on and it seems like
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Eastern and this week's guest is Gulfstream and Fox Sports handicapper Acacia Courtney and with that huge carryover and expected $6 million pool into the 20 cent Rainbow Six at Gulfstream later today. I figured she would be a great guest for you to call in and talk with. You can do that 10 a.m. eastern as I open up the phone lines and you get to be the host of the show. If you would prefer not to be on radio, if you're a little shy about that, no problem. If you want to ask Acacia a question, you can email it to me, might get horse racing radio dot net. And I will pass it along for you. Again, that comes up at 10 a.m. eastern. John embryo had the call of the sleepy hollow stakes and ship stational second stakes victory. That was on October 30th, his final start in his two year old season. He returned in his first try at three to be runner up in the grade three Sam F Davis. That was back on February 12th and his trainer Eddie Barker may be better known for being a yearly contender in the under 20s claiming challenge in New York, but now he is on the Derby trail for the first time and what an experience it is for him. He's with me now here on HR N any good morning. Good morning, Mike, how you doing? Yeah, doing really, really well. So I'll just start with this one. What's it like to be on The Kentucky Derby trail? Well, it's pretty exciting and waiting a long time to get a cult like this and I'm really looking forward to him doing going forward in the next race in the Tampa Bay Derby and then hopefully you can get to the big dance. He is a New York bread. So the sleepy hollow is a New York bread steaks and he was running in those types of races. Last year, it was a big step up for him in the CMF Davis. But boy, he didn't disappoint. How good was that effort? I thought he ran fabulous. He got a little bit of trouble coming out of the gate. They had his head cut to the left and we thought if we could get a clean break away from there and get a good position going for the first turn is what the plane was, but like I said, he came out of the gate. We said cock to the left and he got off a step slow, but javi input and right in behind horses and we didn't get the best run into the turn, but he was taking all the dirt and down the backside the horse inside of him was trying to carry him out and actually carried him out into the turn. But what really impressed me was the way he finished and Javier castellano said the same thing he's man. This was can run. So we're excited. I think we've cleaned a trip. I don't know if I would have beat that horse, but it might have been instead of three lengths, maybe a lens who knows, you know? But in that horse, Eddie classic causeway is a horse now that people are talking about as one of the leading contenders for The Kentucky Derby. He has a Derby pedigree. He's ultra talented and now you know that your horse can run with him. Oh,.
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Experience in the business and next week I'm probably going to need lead one up there that I know can't be beat. And he's going to get destroyed. So why? Why does this happen? They humble us on a regular basis and it's a challenge and fun always trying to be a better horseman and not be subject to that defeat that we didn't think was coming. I want to talk a little bit about your three appearances in The Kentucky Derby. Of course, exaggerator was the first one for you in 2016. You came back with sonata here in 2017 and then my boy Jack and 2018. So three years in a row. That in itself Keith is impressive, but just talk about each of those three experiences and what made each of them special. Very proud of that accomplishment and I wish people would think about that when you worry about wondering how a trainer got to where he is, not only did we go three years in a row, but we were in the Derby two years before qualified with that horse called I've struck a nerve. And also in 2019, we were on the also eligibles and would have got in if we chose to with a horse called swing yo. So that was 5 out of 6 years, we were in the Derby. It was a pretty cool and accomplishment and I'm very, very proud of that. But the answer to your question quickly on each horse you know about exaggerator son tier was an overachiever come from the clouds hard that got the points by running second and third in the Arkansas Derby in the rebel. He did another, he's owned by another awesome owner that is a result of Matt Bryant. Calumet form. What a great team. They have an awesome people to train for and they're great, great for the success of the game throughout the nation. Big supporter of racing and I want to be in the Derby every year for calumet. I wish I could I could accomplish that for them. They deserve it. Came from out of the clouds. He couldn't quite muster the mud racing and off the pace rates that day. But he did turn out to be a stakes winner after the Derby and ended up making four or 500,000. He was a great horse to have around. My boy Jack, man. I wish I could have done a better job of managing him, should have skipped the Lexington. When he ran third in the Louisiana Derby, he looked like a winner and kind of flattened out the last part. I blame that on Kent. He made a move from the three H fold to the quarter pole. He went 11 flat and it knocked his finish out in the Louisiana Derby. We were on the border. I can't think of the right word. Of not having enough points to get in the Derby. After the Louisiana Derby, so I chose to run him in the Lexington, of course he won the Leicester and he secured his spot in the Derby, but I think I had him a little tired for The Kentucky Derby. He also got stopped cold at the three inch poll. I want anybody who's interested in this kind of stuff. To watch my boy Jack. At the three 8th pole, someone came over on him and he almost went down. He stopped cold and re rallied for 5th at that point, I think he was second to last. And re rallied for 5th. What a harsh with a heart of gold and he was a $20,000 purchase that made 700,000 and another one that I'm very proud of. But bye boy Jack had a heart of gold. I probably raced him too hard early in his career. His ankles bothered him after the Derby. He never was quite the same horse, but he retired and is at one of the adoption homes in Kentucky and living out a good life. Visiting with trainer Keith the sormo on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton. Keith you mentioned how proud you are of those three consecutive Kentucky Derby appearances. When you get there three years in a row, and then you go a couple of years without getting back there. You said your competitive and you said you love to win, how much is that fueling you now as we start down this Kentucky Derby trail here in mid February, how much do you really want to get back to the top of that mountain again? Well, again, it reaffirms what I said about being humbled. I thought after that first Derby and the success and the following years, I'm like, clown hell, are they going to keep me out of this thing? From here on out. And I've been humbled. I've had some damn nice young stock excuse my French. Since 2018. And it just has not culminated with that level of success since then. And yes, it does humble you. It stresses you a bit. But it also feels the part. You want to get back to the dirt. It's the greatest harsh race in this country. And it's top one of the top races in the world. And we all know why. I don't need an elaborate and that direction. But yes, it feels the part..
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"Twin spires, Mike tenna Barron in the backstretch, taking you through a very busy program, I called it the Super Bowl of horse racing talk shows on this Super Bowl weekend and certainly is with all of the tremendous guests that we have coming up, including my next guest, safi Joseph junior, who is the trainer of springboard mile winner, make it big. We'll see him back in action today, looking to remain undefeated in the Sam F Davis at Tampa Bay downs. Last weekend, safi sent out white a barrio to win the holy bull stakes at Gulfstream and who would have thought when safi was training Triple Crown winners in Barbados that he would be sitting here on February 12th, 2022 with two horses currently sitting in the top ten of the Derby point standings, quite a barrio all the way up to third now and make it big sitting in 7th and safi's with me now. Saf, what a ride it's been, huh? Oh, yes. It's been amazing. I'm enjoying all the opportunities given to us and just trying to make the most of them. I know that this was always a goal. You wanted to put yourself in this position to have these kinds of horses and be working with these kinds of owners. You and your dad work closely together. What has this situation that's now presented itself with having two horses in the top ten? What does this mean for you and for your family and everything that you work so hard to achieve? It just means everything. We love this. We love what we do and people have a job and a hobby and racing is the job, racing is the hobby, racing is right. And you want to go to the bar and somebody will want to go to the nightclub where they want to go to some kind of entertainment landscape for me is to go to the barn, so you don't watch it, especially in the evening. You just watch them in the store and that's where you learn the most about them in my opinion. Just living the dreams of audience and blessed and thankful for all the opportunities and how it's gone. You can't go better. There's times where things get tough and early on, but now you've got so many owners behind us back in us that sky's the limit to be honest. Two years ago you made it to The Kentucky Derby for the first time. And I remember you and I having several conversations that year in 2020. That was with New York traffic. And I remember how special that was for you. This feels just a little bit different since you been there done that. Does it feel different to you this time around? Yeah, because you've been there now and you couldn't understand it, you learned a few things. We need to do differently and now you don't just want to go back, you want to go back really good with chances to win because you already been there. If you want to kind of go back to chances remain obviously, each ownership is different, someone is just going to be their first time, so they want to go there also, but you learn more from experience, experience is priceless and each year we keep getting better horses like this here, we've got two when we probably got one more AP secret as possible in one of the early prep. So we had three good calls that hopefully they could end up there this year? What specifically did you learn going down The Kentucky Derby trail with New York traffic that's helping you right now with these three horses? I want to say that much anything different one thing I didn't learn is on the walk over the last year in New York. I mean, two years ago in New York, it was actually the COVID, so it didn't even have any spectators, but it was kind of a rag going on upside. The Churchill and even on the walk over, he got pretty keyed up, which is pretty normally a car more than definitely thing that earplugs or something good to take a horse over on Derby day because it's the crowd that's one thing. I learned that we would do differently this year if we were to get back there. Yeah, it's interesting you say that because you can watch that walk over on TV, a million times. But you can't fully appreciate that atmosphere and then environment until you until you're in it until you do it, right? Almost definitely. But as you can see it see it all the same over here, they're doing that. It's totally different. But as I said, that was a bit because there wasn't signs that year, but I'm sure the founders even more special to be a part of. Was it difficult to keep your emotions in check as you were walking over when New York traffic? I've stayed pretty good. Surprisingly because it's a different feel as I've been renewal found probably the fans are probably what you guys are doing and reserves more. Yeah, more so than ever. So it was a bit different. It was actually a good first run through because it's like almost like fake and a belief that there's no fans there and it's more calm and but so it was a good trial, trial, put it that way. I've had the privilege to spend time with you before a big race in the days leading up to a big race. And I know how intense you can be. I'm assuming that before the CMF Davis today, you're going to be a little dialed in. I was getting there, but anyway, it could be a fight that was not a claimer or a stake and it hasn't changed. I think that's the adrenaline. That's why you do it for that kind of feel that excitement and then if it works out the highest unbelievable and the disappointment is still as disappointment still comes every race you lose. I mean, you know you can't win, but sometimes you run a horse that you think is going to run well and it runs bad and that disappointment is always there and never not comes a disappointment. I was racing as high as those. And you try to stay steady, doesn't try to keep a steady balance and keep moving forward. You can look backwards and you've got to keep moving forward. Well, let's start with the same at Davis then and we'll talk about make it big because you haven't experienced any disappointment with this horse. He's unblemished a perfect three for three. And he was really game in that victory in the springboard mile last time out. It was his first try going past 7 furlongs that was, of course, a one mile race. Tell me a little bit more about him and what you're seeing from him coming into his three year old debut. Is it different than over zone before as far as race, I wouldn't say that you trained any horse that you would think that would be here right where he is right now? It's very average workforce in the morning more work when lakes kind of lazy and certain aspects. And I probably 6 years before as far as race, he showed he started to change and of course I'm always showed a lot of speed. It was only the whole day and then the second race he missed the break in the Florida state and he was able to overcome some adversity. So you kind of thought he was trending in the right direction and took him to the springboard for exactly raising manager for red oak. I was a good race and then turned out to be a good choice of race and he was able to step up a bit and again he faced it different kind of trip kind of in between horses had to wait. And then showed some guts down the line to Obama Osborne, so in each of his races, he was facing different elements and he's able to overcome it. This now we're talking the time Davis this time David has come up pretty tough. I completely generally hear. That he decided to go there late and classic causeway. Who was second in the jockey club and that raises turned out to be such a strong form then you got God of love trying to do it for the first time and I think it's a competitive race and he's going to need a step of again to win a race like this. Yeah, we're going to talk about your holy bowl winner white a barrio in just a minute, but we know that white of barrio made that move in that step forward from two to three. He handled that beautifully. Are you seeing some of those same signs from make it big that he'll maybe even be better as a three year old than he was as a two year old? Two different orders is why our bar is more like he gives you everything in the morning. He's controlling he'll do.
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"Inspires a funny enough during the commercial break during the ten minutes that I took off during the commercial break to stretch and rest my voice too. That's another thing I got to do more of. My buddy Ryan Thompson, who's the incredibly good photographer. I should say one of the incredibly good photographers down at Gulfstream park. And in racing in general, we have some really wonderful track photographers at a lot of the tracks and I let Ryan just seems to, for me, he captures the sport a little differently than everybody else. And he goes for some cool angles and he has he took a photo and I just retweeted it of the overhead camera that he puts in for the start and it happened to be right above simplifications gate and you know I know that a photograph can make distance and layers and stuff look a little different, but it certainly noticeable that at least those first couple jumps, like he's already a length behind, like his high end is not even out of the gate yet. So kind of interesting. And mode on a go, you kind of see that he's a shade behind the one and the three, as they leave. Really cool shots. We got some awesome photogs in this wonderful world of horse racing. So anyways, we can recap special. This is special, by the way. I was talking about this. The Swedish chain, let's go through this Gulfstream card kind of quick because I do want to get to the withers what was an interesting race and aqueduct there. Three year old Phillies in the Swedish chant, it was openly who came from off the pace. They went and set a pretty honest clip. You had to long shot my favorite daughter. And this happens in these turf routes, right? Sometimes you just get the odd long shadow once in a while their favorite, but it seems like they're often a long shot. Go out and open up and kind of run this wasn't an insane pace. It was just quick. And I couldn't quite maintain it, but I don't believe in Louisiana. Louis had a big day too on Saturday coming from off the pace to win that one. The forward gal always one of my favorite early three year old Philly preps, just always seems like there's been a lot of good runners in here over the years. Well, as Brad Cox with a girl with a dream now, radio days was bent down a pretty heavy favoritism in this spot and came away last little ways behind and you know that's kind of her style, but the way the race shaped up girl with a dream just kind of went to the front and was, you know, just clicking off pretty, pretty easily. Now radio days did make up ground and did finish way ahead of everybody else. And was inching closer to girl with a dream. You know, whether or not radio days wants to go longer because I think there's a, especially amongst beginning handicappers, I think you learn this as you watch more races, but it's a real easy thing to confuse. I'll never forget the horse that taught me this lesson, a horse named siriano at emerald downs. Go look up siriano from 2004. She won a stake going 6 and a half and she rallied from off the pace. Now I know a lot, a lot of our more experienced listeners are gonna, you know, they already know this. But I know a lot of our listeners are new too. So I do want to once in a while I'll talk about this stuff. But siriano comes and she just from way out rolls by them all and wins. And the next race in that series stretched out to a mile and I remember betting siriano because she was just going to mow him down again and didn't quite have that same kick and didn't get there and I think it's for a lot of new players. You know, they think like, oh, more ground equals, you know, more chance to make up ground. What a really equals is more chance for the leaders not to go as fast. More chance or you have to close into a slower pace, and you have to make your move while you've already expanded more energy because you've just ran further. You're trying to make that same move 5 for longs into a race instead of in the sprint race where you made it three for longs into the race and you know obviously their exceptions to it, sure. Absolutely. But yeah, I think that's a good little reminder thing to have. You know, radio days just because she was closing in nicely and has done so so far. You know, this was this was her, you know, she was kind of at the same time for a long time. She was last time and she blew their doors off, but this was against better. And I was trying to chase a loose on the lead horse was coming off a nice steaks win last time out and it had a little bit of an experience edge too, frankly. I mean, girl with a dream has, you know, that was career start number 6 and she's now four for 6. And you got 5 to one. God, the hammered radio days in that race. That was crazy. Grand sonata victorious in the kitten's joy stakes around from off the pace made a real kind of late move between horses on kind of an exciting finish getting up over royal spirit and a Paco Lopez in the kitten's joy. The cleburne farm swale. I think chuck Simon called it the AI used to be on The Kentucky Derby trail stakes. I thought that was pretty funny. You know, for horses that just aren't, you know, they're going to the 7 furlongs is probably better and more part of their world than going on my own a 16th. But my prankster Louis science coming from off the pace. Looping up wide and blowing by him to win as the favorite day of Saturday at Gulfstream park, the holy bull card in the books. Let's go over to aqueduct where, you know, the track has been funny there. And I said recently, I have not been able to watch a ton of aqueduct because during the race, we obviously run a lot of the same days as them, and then during the race as a Tampa, we often run pretty opposite of Gulfstream and so that's the one that I have time to really watch. And you know, this time of year Gulf Stream is running a lot of very good races, but it seemed as though aqueduct was there was a huge huge rail bias couple weeks ago and then there was a the exact opposite. I think in the last week or early this week and you almost couldn't win down on the rail. And that was kind of carrying into Saturday a little bit as you got to the wither stakes, which was, you know, big full field of 11 going to mile an 8th and as I said Friday, like this is I didn't love the Jerome that was kind of the race that I was against of sorts. I just didn't think it was a great prep. But what were some of the other alternatives? Well, according to the better, is the alternatives were early voting who was bet all the way down to 6 to 5 favoritism coming off of a very good day when in her last start or his last start rather. And did it up on the front end going a mile at aqueduct and now obviously stretching out a little bit to my own, a big ask, but the horse took a ton of money. Let's take a listen back to John and brielle's call of the withers..
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"And so I did want to mention a few of those by name, but I mean, really, we're talking about dozens and dozens of really good guess we had another inside the pylons interview back on November 16th when I was coming out from Las Vegas that I haven't looked if that's our top show of the year. I know his other two interviews are like way our top one. Like people still to this day, I mean, three years later, those episodes still get hundreds and hundreds of downloads every month, even though obviously it's not promoted or anything like that. It's just people find their way to it because I think those interviews establish themselves as very good pieces of information. We had access to a top professional horseplayer for two and a half or three hours and this year gave us another hour and a half. So check those out if you haven't yet. Starting back in January, you know, obviously the calendar turns after opening day at Santa Anita and really all things kind of turn towards The Kentucky Derby trail, but also the winter meats, right? Santa Anita, aqueduct fairgrounds, Tampa, Gulfstream park. Sam Houston going on, the Houston lays classic la started her big campaign down there with a nice win. It's very cool to see that race continue to produce some very, very nice horses that have gone on to big filly years in recent years. The holy bull, of course, one of the signature early parts of the season, along with the Pegasus World Cup, the Pegasus World Cup this year, it was Nick's go, scoring in a pretty facile win. In typical Knicks go fashion, you know, went to the front, didn't get a whole lot of pressure. You know, you look at it, it's funny, I went back and rewatched it last night and, you know, you're here in the colic independence law and you know, Jesus team was second there. Looking back, he was certainly much, much the best in that spot..
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"To the phone lines. Stephen new york. Welcome the boys going. So bad bobby. Hey steve how are you a while. Good good man. So i i got two points real quick right i to answer your question bobby hundred percent this week. It's max 'field. I've been on this from day. One huge fan. I'm you fan of the trainer. I think this horse from when he made that move was a keelan early on last year or it was in the fall bashar. I can't recall of the before. I lose track of time but i mean that was eye catching and since then again huge fan of the source but when he gets of kentucky it's like he's a different horse even though that last race in saratoga you ran pretty good against the track by but still i. You need to see something good from him in the woodward to really be confident because you know earlier you went to the west coast and he just enjoy again. So that's the horse. I think needs to really really show out this week. That's point one point to a little bit of a bone to pick with ed. But not really in general and i'll hang up to this. You know i think in this industry. We have a tendency as fans to overlook when like great horses or right before us and jackie's warrior man from day one. I feel like this horse has never really gotten the credit. He deserves like starting off early in the air. It was always like you know he's not good enough to run them on a quarter of the derby so people are down him dead anyway. You know you rent a banger. Churchill dream shake didn't come back to run squat so they said you was weak raised and he ran a banger in the bell belmont stakes and you know everybody but he missed a break train. The clock came back. didn't run. he betraying the clock because that was the week then he came back stared. Life is good in the eyeballs. Put that one away and still now. People are looking towards flight line. And that's the bone to pick with it what it is but let me tell you guys something right now man. I've been looking at probably twenty plus years. Now maybe thirty. I'm old guy. Now right just like you and i have no idea. I don't know this perfect. But i've seen plenty of time. There are some horses when other horses good horses. Stare them in the eye and the they're forced to run versus forces. They break in half. You look at dream shake. After that race he ran verse. Jackets were never the same. Look at the clock. After he'd beat him that day he was forced to run that day. Obama miss the break. Never the same look at life is good. That's not the plan. What they had to go to kelso and then now to the rediscover mile broke him in half day. Use some of these horsemen and this horse. Let me tell you. This horse is a special horse. And i hope people like really realize what we're looking at here. Maybe sprinters sprints mile wherever. You're not going to be like a you know he's not gonna win a mile and a quarter race. This is a special horse man. I i think people are really overlooking him for the next next next one. I don't know why and feet steve. Thanks very much for your call. Two points there at. I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you go first with this. Last one. steve's a big fan of jackie's warrior jackie's were coming off a resounding. Win the gallon bob where it was really like a paid workout for a lot of money. And he's going to be favored in the breeder's cup sprint. Mainly because flight line is not going to run. He's going to skip it. And wait for the malibu opening day of the winner meet at santa anita december. Twenty six but he may have been favored. Anyway he was going he was going to vie for favoritism with flight line now with flight line out and life is good. Going to the dirt mile and with yaupon retired i would think that jackie's warrior will solidly be favored. The breeder's cup sprint. What's your what's your ideas of him. Yeah there's no. Question is the favourite now in. I mean we were talking among us here at churchill and i need to go back to look at the charts but he might be the biggest favourite and sprint history. I just don't know another horse. People would be excited about. I will say i. I don't know that he's underrated I mean it was favored in the breeders cup juvenile over central quality. Who's gone on to do pretty well. nah that race in particular Obviously as gangbusters. Considering hot rod charlie in there and keep in mind to a lesser extent. So Yeah i i mean i i get it with light. Line like hey. This horse has an allowance. When what gives let's celebrate jackie's warrior who's actually winning stakes races. That's that's probably a fair point but You know at the end of the day we get to tibet on whose faster if light line ends up being the one that takes more money than maybe jackie's warrior is the better bet but certainly in the sprint. Now he will eat. Looks like the most likely winner the whole two days. And i don't i don't agree with the part that he's broken. Life is good and half life is good going to the kelsen going to the dirt mile. I think the plan all along was to stretch him back out after all. He was on the kentucky derby trail earlier this year before he got injured. So i'm not really sure you can say broken in half but that was an impressive win beating him passing. Life is good that day. In the allan jerkins to steve's first point he likes max 'field he's hoping matfield runs big. What do you make of the fact. that brendan walsh. Is putting blinkers on max field for the first time mayor. Steve view steve steals listening. Steve's vapor trail. i'm sorry You know he's been pushing a lot of the right buttons Lately so i see it. I know a lot of people. Think equipment changes especially on accomplished horses. Maybe a negative like oh what are they. Try and brendan's spills Feels like he's turning the right screws as of late. He's been winning with more first. There's the barnes going. Well so and i don't want to be overawed about entail. What a positive. But i definitely wouldn't see it is a negative and i would say this is the time to try more than the breeders cup so i would say. I share the enthusiasm for this horse taking a shot in a race like this..
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on Racing Rundown: A Horse Racing Podcast
"Nowhere near a softer heavy as it is over there. It's gonna go a long way for. I really liked her in the spotlight. Love the distance at all adds upper lightings easily the best of the europeans even more so than create flair. Who i think could take a lot of money. But i genuinely think she's the best horse in this race and now we're going to move onto the jockey club derby another race that i didn't have to think long Very long to pick this race and that that horse on. I'm going to be picking soldier rising soldier rising. I've loved his effort that he had in the saratoga. Eric and i have been talking about how well we've played Racing run on collectively. Hip played the church triple series. And i don't like to gloat about things because that's not the way that i believe that the podcast should be taken out. We should carrier salts on the podcast. But you know we have had a lot of success with near-term triple series in soldier. Rising was part of that and his effort. Last time i start. Us was he did more than more than i was expecting to see from him and i was expecting him to hit the board in the rate so that goes to show you how impressive that was. That was going a mile and three sixteenths. He's getting a mile and a half in this race. I absolutely love soldier. Rising in this recent again. Another race. That i did not have to think very long. I just needed to make sure he was entered. He's my pick. And i'm hoping that that streak with us playing this race well continues and i'm going to be going with the chalk. The favorite here are the likely. I should say For godolphin charlie appleby. That's you'd beer listening. This is a very good source You've done a lot of good things and each got really good company. I'm especially in twenty twenty one to last three starts all them being group stations. Only bad was overseeing soft ground at goodwood ally and even earlier they're using satellites of draw or loan and l. drama who is one of the favorites for the darby on beaten less than a link in the classic trial of group three Last or eight april. Excuse me that race featured at a yard one of the best horses in europe right now and just emphasize the winner that group to last another great voyager. You won this race. You look at the last ten years of this race in nearly every single one of those horses as long to win group wants following following night success in industry too so he's coming from a historically very strong race not just when it comes to dropping company or anything like that. I'm talking about legitimate. high grave. Group wants at these horses are winning so he. He's a really good horse. It's kind of rare that we get a horse like this coming over. Especially qarase's i know it's a million dollars but has no greater affiliation to it so He's taken his in here. That was second in that race ring. Third and the st leger so easiest is an absolute standout. I don't blame anyone else for taking a shot against because it's not like you know there's bad horses industries step soldier rising absolutely hughes last time. Now we get also valley back over back on the sort of steady dominated in the douaumont. Derby interesting longshots in my opinion but i just think be had you know has a big advantage coming into this class. He's been keeping and getting this little class drop and super ideal conditions on my own half on the in the firm ground used absolutely love. So now we're going to move on to the first kentucky derby points races on the schedule for the two thousand twenty two kentucky derby and believe me that does not feel like it's something that should be being said right now the fact that we're already getting into the twenty twenty two kentucky. Derby trail does not feel right. But you know this race does carry ten points toward it in a more importantly this is a cup race. Breeders cup implications definitely will matter more in the short term than than the the points will for the oaks but in terms of this race. The good thing about these churchill downs two year old races is that there's no real stand up for them and they both have large fields and large fields with two year olds. I definitely does play well to betting this race. Oh these two races are going to be definitely great racist tibetan. Affiliate that i'm going to go with in the pocahontas is The pletcher philly got us a fire. a mineshaft horse and she. She is air coming out of her her first career victory so not undefeated but she was a i out winter and it was not a very visually impressive victory but it was a nice enough win for her Her time was pretty good at least under my metrics of it and then also race. Where i'm taking a mild shot in this race. She six to one in the morning line that could float up or down probably will go down a little bit given the name attached to her trainer. But i'm taking shots. In both of these two year old races churchill downs. So why not go. The horse that has kind of effort has a strong effort over traffic saratoga. That got us afire does have in this race. I'm going with a horseshoe. I'm a little surprised at her morning. Line odds tend to one bit higher than i would've thought but if she wants to hang around there be a little higher Seeking will be my guest. That's commu for mark. cassie east austin texas weekend marquette. He'd be having a gigantic My me he doesn't want to raise it even if he had one ornery..
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on Daily Racing Form
"Once you try to get them on that kentucky oaks kentucky derby trail and with the wars like this who had run well and run fine. Early on is a year old in early three year old. But i think now they've kind of taken a step back and figured out exactly what she wants to do and she really made. I think the division very interesting as a new face. And i'm glad you brought billow on sunday. I think it makes sense to talk about that race in tandem with this one because these horses are looking ahead to the test going seven furlongs that grade one invented saratoga and boy was bella. Sophia impressive i mean. She wasn't beating the same kind of field that she would have faced if she had started in the victory ri- but that was a really fast pace that she was involved in. I mean she put away that clermont runner who was off the layoff that she was dealing with early and that one faded pretty badly and horses. That were second and third close from way back in the pack. So i mean. She beat the dynamics of the race and she earned an a really nice speed figure. I think the The buyer for beleza. Thea was ninety four so A very impressive performance. At one. That i think they have to step up in class. Next time i very much agree. And she was most impressive because not only was she dueling fast case with a very quick and faded after that after that pace. But if you go back and watch the race. Jose ortiz never asked her. He shook the reins at her once and he never even moved his riding crop removed. His position just shook the reins and chic celebrated bold away again to me. That was the most impressive are in. It's a scary thought that they just how good she is because she was never even asked after dueling in very very fast pace. She is one that has really backed it up. She faced older in her debut and won by over eleven langston then finishing second in a state next time out. I think proved that she certainly does belong. This is also a win against some older horses like and time fierce lady who were coming out of newark ribs steaks competition.
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network
"That a horse who lost two of the triple crown races and then won the belmont victory. We'll get you look at me. How about an and. I'm going to bring this back out. This is great this is. This is our ryan russia. Who came up with this. That if keep me in mind doesn't participate that the last time that Didn't have a single horse running all three races. You gotta go back to two thousand ten and again you know and i think part of that you know i. I don't know. I don't have the answer to that question. I'm not going to get into a discussion about changing the triple crown. Personally i would have changed it years ago. I've just because. I think it makes the racist way more competitive not making. I'm not trying to and this is before the two triple crown is interesting it easier. I'm not trying to make it harder. I'm trying to make them more competitive and more meaningful there. You go so that's just me. I don't really want to get into all that but you know that's my soapbox for that particular issue but yeah if it doesn't run them we won't have the. It'd be the first time since since ten that you don't have a horse ridden in all three triple crown races. Which is a shame these. It's supposed to be the these are supposed to be these three races. It's called the triple crown trail really. We think we may be just start. Just calling it the kentucky derby trail because that'd be one let's get to the derby and once they once they once the eighteen or nineteen horses lose the derby look most of them scatter and point for other races some here and some to the summer fair point and and absolutely worth worth further exploration discussion. Maybe we can talk to the people who run the triple eight. There is nobody who runs the triple crown. Well and that. I was going to make i was gonna make that. I was gonna make that suggestion or at least float that and say why you know with all of the sponsorship opportunities out there and we've got plenty of average so it's not like we don't have advertisers that you know that are backing. The you know the america's day at the racist show and all the there's tons of them. I we can't get somebody they they can they can do insurance or they can find some way to agglomerate. Let's get a triple crown. Bonus back again and the point system high on that only because. I think the reason that got done away with is because you have horses that just by like two or three horses that run in the race. You're on seventh ninth and third and we're rewarding them for we're giving them a participation trophy. I think the races should stand alone on their own merit. And now maybe a little purse bump put the three million the practices a million million and a half which i guess a couple of years ago went up by half a million but man you know what these racists could go up a little bit. I think more money more payoffs lots you know Maybe it has become a financial burden to run in the kentucky. Derby to be honest with you. I mean if you're not in the top five losing money no question a lot of it especially if you bring a big group and then tickets and the yeah no. You're not the first person to that. And in fact was two years ago there had been there'd been a discussion that was coming out of actually coming out of lexington about urging and cajoling churchill to make the the derby purse substantial and to put it. I mean considering its level of importance worldwide that Why isn't the purse. At least yeah that. And i don't know what that i think. The pandemic interrupted that conversation point as interrupted a lot of things. But it's stroke. These persons could be digging. I just think the races on they should be the three guess. The travers being the fourth in the raises that you really want three overly want to be in and win. It doesn't seem to be the point the case while you could you could. Also you can also fold in Haskell and travers and have a you know have a a season long kind of a three year old something that maybe let's give a we'll come back around to To mammoth and a second actually and in fact. Marcus her shoes here somewhere. He's here he's on the so we're going to. He's on the other side so he said he didn't think he could come over to sit but later. We'll talk to marcus in the next probably twenty twenty five minutes. He covered Basically did the coverage of opening weekend at monmouth and certainly it was top of mind with a lot of people who was closely watched. And did you watch any. I watched the. I just wanted to make sure that when they ran the first moment that the world didn't end because a lot of stories. I did not write them. The world's world good man if raising came to a conclusion world didn't end so i said okay. I just need to carry on. So i watched a few racing. I didn't see anything egregious. Didn't watch every head on and every replay horses that you know. It certainly didn't favor the racist. I saw a certain particular style which is not to say steve. I'm in favor of the rule. I understand it. Just didn't bring the world to closure. We'll get some thoughts from marcus on that topic Let's run down this belmont field as we know as of right now and of course your preakness winner leads this group And you know the the unusual. There's another research project.
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"I've already got a couple of tweets. Mean respond to one of them right away to read at work. Who said Joni Mac, So I won money on Medina Spirit last weekend to online gambling. How does that work if they reversed decision? Give the window man balloon You already got it, Spend it. They're not going to attempt to, uh, get people to give money back. Not happening. The winner was declared that day A but for history. Yes, they can reverse the outcome of the Kentucky Derby. The wagering aspect of it is, unfortunately done. I say, unfortunately, because I was a man balloon guy. I needed him to make up that Hample linked in the stretch that he ended up losing by if you cashed on Medina spirit, fear not. You've got that money. They can't come back with hand out and go. You need to give this back to us not happening. S O. It is, but it's an issue for the entire sport. Because you're going to get guys who aren't is and I wouldn't even say that I'm understanding I just them. Ah, guy who's not going to go crazy about it on guy get the fact that there's nothing really they can do about it. But it is a black eye on the sport. If the second test comes back positive. Let me explain that. Any time a tests. Horse tests positive for an illegal substance in his urine in his bloodstream. Um, the owner, the trainer, the people who are tied to the horse. Are advised that this is the case. You can accept your punishment, as is and say, OK, we t Did you caught us? What are the red percussions while you're gonna lose the prince money, that's for damn sure. And in this case, the title of the Kentucky Derby winner, uh, 99 out of 100 times, Probably 99.9. 999 out of 1000 times The connections to the horse that's found to have tested positive will say Wait a minute. We don't accept that didn't happen. Don't know how you got that test. Must be a false positive. We request a secondary test, and then they have to test it again. If it's found to be positive again, well, the no sanctions gonna be put into play. Bob Baffert has already said Damn demanded not requested, demanded a second test. He says there's no way that the horse was ever treated with the drug better Method zone, which is an anti inflammatory, which is what he tested. Positive for Medina Spirit, the winner of the Kentucky Derby and Bath Red is in deep denial that this is the case. As a matter of fact, Bob Baffert's going down the road of Conspiracy theory, and they're out to get me because this is not the first time the path it's been called on the carpet with a high profile horse in a high profile race. He had a couple of really good horses. CA mean last year and Charlotte in three year old who's on the Kentucky Derby trail. Who won the Arkansas Derby? Um, boats test positive after the fact. And he fought both positive tests and the secondary tests did abolish the first test. So they're both cleared. Both got the purse is attached to those two races. So Baffert is claiming without coming right out and saying it but ending at it that what was me there are people out to get me. I can't believe that this is happening to me. Well, we're going to get to secondary tests, and we all do have to wait for the secondary test. If you take the secondary tested and relevant Look what happened last year, and he did beat the rap. I don't know if that's gonna be the case here. And the really interesting part of the story is and when I get lovey pink eye on, I get some speculation from him at the top of the hour. As of right now, we are six days away from the second leg of the Triple Crown, which is the Preakness Stakes in Baltimore's Pimlico. What is Baltimore going to do? Her killed downs came out as soon as the French positive test was registered. They suspended Bob Baffert at Churchill Downs where he supposedly cheated. He cannot run any of his horses at Churchill Downs. As of right now, all his entries of frozen he can't enter a horse at Churchill Downs. Well, what does the Maryland Racing Association do? They let Baffert run his Kentucky Derby winner in the Preakness. Do they hold out both of Baffert sources because between you and I I think the favorite of the race and the words I would pick the win. If you said Joanie, just pick a winner. Right now, it would be Baffert's other horse concert tour, who I think is a better horse. Will probably be the second choice, but he might actually be the favorite. Do you ban him, too? Because he's under Bob Baffert's stewardship and coming out of his barn. It could make a mess out of the Preakness next week s. So if you want to talk about it, I'll certainly take your words raising calls. Football. Baseball. Basketball hockey work. Me too. Get me up a 55 to 1 to 4 to 27 Lou from Tampa is up first today, Lou, you're on CBS Sports radio. Hi, Jodi. How are you today? Good. How about you? Good. I was gonna go. I'm going to go in a different direction after hearing some of your other comments, so okay, truthfully, I'm not a bathroom fan, but I do believe he might be clean on this just because of the pre rest. Ring. Testing that they do for the Derby. And that's a.
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM
"Was questionable about running him in the Louisiana Derby. You know, he, uh, He didn't quit that day, but he was a little aggressive. He's a little little high strung in the paddock. Not bad. I mean, he didn't get hotter, washed out or anything like that. But he was just up in the bridal, leaving the gate that day and look to close up in the race. He finally did settle down the back side. But it took away from this from his kicker finished, but you didn't know you know, you know Hey, didn't finish today in this race, but you know if he wanted to go any further, and then I mean, that was a big question in my mind, no doubt about it. Anybody that watched her head, too, But the connections decided to give obey so one more chance on the Kentucky Derby trail. And he rewarded them with a strong third place finish and a really good closing kick in the Louisiana Derby. Okay, so this is too oh, and one in five career starts. He'll be written by Marcelino Pedroza, his first Kentucky Derby mount and Obey. SOC is co owned by Barrett Bernard. Tag. Team racing, which includes fully and West Point thoroughbreds, which won the Kentucky Derby in 2000 and 17 with always dreaming, fully said he will not change anything with the style of the late running closer, hoping that obey SOS could make one run and get there for the roses. Want him run down the lane that less. That's where I want him. Running. Louisiana Derby third place finisher Obey SOS. Folks. It's Kris Allen, CEO of I Cleanse In the past. You've heard me talk about I.
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network
"Great. There's greg rice in this weekend everywhere Everybody go enjoy horse doing what they love to do. And we'll see you guys next week. Ron mcquaid everybody and chances are ron's back with me on monday. Frankly we've got about seven eight minutes. I've got seth merrin standing by. And seth as i mentioned some late breaking pieces of news Re tweeted from about twenty minutes ago. J. primin in conversation with shook mcgahey. Greatest honor is going to be sidelined for about sixty days forcing him to miss the triple crown season. So Feel badly for the horse and for shug and for don and donna adam To be this close bought They'll have them for the second half of the year. Yeah i kind of had a with for that earlier and so it wasn't surprised when it came out And yeah i'm you know. Maybe maybe we'll get look at him up at saratoga who knows but He goes to the sidelines. And the weekend. It's just another one of those triple crown seasons that we've had over the past you know it's hard to judge last year. It was so different but going back. You know four or five years before that. It's just been marked by inconsistency you have maybe one or two horses who kinda hold together throughout the season in some fashion this year obviously essential quality maybe concert for but then you have a bunch of horses who will flash a big performance and then don't really validate it in the next race and so it's a little bit of a guessing game when they come to the the the big race and this year the perfect example of saturday's wood memorial where the logical is kinda didn't show up and they had a couple of surprises. It's another as they say kentucky derby trail that kind of has fallen to quite like this over the past four or five years. Well the that news certainly will you know. We'll have a trickle down effect and and most immediately There's at least one beneficiary that Is is sort of on the border. A horse like Obese house and and You know dream shake that around. The you know the the low twenties or on my own list. that I've got him. Actually write at twenty obese. Oh we also know that The the horse that won the uae. Derby rebels romance specifics from godolphin that they will bypass derby which was pretty much expected. But they're gonna target the belmont actually so that's nice to know you could put rebels romance down there so you know there's an official horse to cross out and then there's expected ones like way burn and crowded trade etc. So this'll this'll play out Over this weekend. I also Before we talk about keeneland today and a couple of plays. Seth word has come and Circulating that alice heatedly chandler has passed away. This came Apparently on monday and The news And the obituaries are are just hitting the the trades and td with an extensive job. It was the first one that i saw chris. Mcgrath writing so Our our hearts go out to dock and To he'd lee and flip patricia. And mike and reynolds as well as the the grandchildren and great grandchildren. A just an absolute legend if you missed our visit with heatley belt last year and This when when his mother was honored as part of the hall of fame the the founding the founders weighing very sad but of life. Well well lived ninety five years old and really a a matriarch of long standing and i mean a pillar of the turf as they say so. That was heatley gentler. Gone sat. Let's we got about three two three minutes. Let's get a couple of plays on keelan today. I heard you talking earlier about that. Leaked pick for an and The interesting race to me is the kickoff. And i think you can play around in there and maybe get some prices at the morning line holds up the fifth race. And that's because. I think he can maybe narrow down in the six than the six. The four and the seven both look needed that that looks like the playable duo in the sixth race. So i play around in the fifth. I have a three seven. Five and eight. Six is also interesting to me but third draft show. I think comes in. It's good form. And maybe prime for a nice effort getting seven to two there wolf pain as a bunch of winning siblings so stewing slew pola queen violate all nice winners. This one has had a couple of starts. Hasn't gotten it done yet. But again i think has done a fashion that lisa foundation to be prime today at five to one and perhaps tonight from Graham another one comes over from europe. ramps fits in the debut last july and then came back and you know it was not necessarily an inspiring seven but it was decent closing effort off along layup. But i think the horse may be can improve from ten to one there so There's.
"kentucky derby trail" Discussed on News Talk 1130 WISN
"I mean, that's one of the things that we use. The motivated Trump had a chip on the shoulder, almost anybody. Obama didn't have a chippy out of cement, black on his shoulder and all these resentments, but it was one of the things that drove him to get to the power that he has. So it's More than my 4.5 minutes. What else do I have on here? Yeah, I'm on the interference, calling King. I saw this game. I was traveling yesterday, but I saw Entire game, either on the back of the airport screen in a bar on the layover in Atlanta or the remainder of the game on my phone, so I don't think I missed anything other than a play. Too, But I'll admit I didn't have my giant 75 inch big screen where I could see it in the same kind of detail, But it's and I also didn't have audio the whole time. Which was that advantage, not hearing to having to hear Buck in a queen. Yeah, but I imagine Troy Aikman still flipping car wheels, isn't he? The guy can't stand. The Packers can't stand around Rogers and he worships the altar of Tom Brady. And he always has. So I met anyway, It seems to me that was by the gate on almost flag less game. There were very few penalties played the whole game. I was watching Jersey tugs that whole game. And several on the Packers. I saw Adams's jersey being held twice. I saw Belle. There's scant wings jersey being held. I saw Ellen Landry's jersey being held there were allowing these Jersey grabs. Oh, Gabe, and that's the same thing. The King got away with here, and then they called it and it was called by the referee on the back side. I thought it was a bad call because it was inconsistent from the way the rest of the game. Was called Well, I said going into the game that the Packers would only lose if It was a special teams fiasco or they lost the turnover battle that, in fact, turned out not to be the case. But I know this is going to sound weird. While they won the turnover battle, they lost the important turnover battle. The Packers, two turnovers were critical. Whereas Tampa based who turned over? You know a couple. Those long passes were like punts anywhere. I don't think that they should count the same. A turnover of So that's it. You get those plays out of the Pats. The Packers went all the statistic battles I thought play up play on play. They won the battle of the game. They had by far the second half after they gave up that crappy first touchdown. It's a game that they allowed to get away and there's gonna be a lot of anger and frustration over the whole thing. And They wasted. I would say the best roster that they have had maybe including the super boy. Here. They have. This team three players. But I think we're the best in their position in the entire National Football League. Rogers played quarterback better than anybody this year Back T Erry played left tackle better than anybody this year and Are dire. Alexander is Just the best quarterback I think in the NFL and the reason that you mentioned Davante Adams, I'm not positive. He's the best wide receiver, but he's in the top two or three. But of the three that I said the three best players that their position the reason you don't see J. R. Alexander much on TV is they never throw against him because he's always covered. In fact, there it was the two picks. Again yesterday, sort of waste that kind of a roster. With three and maybe Corey Lindsley is the best center that wouldn't be close. I've given you Maybe it very, very deep roster and They missed out on that opportunity for it, and it's going to be kicked around for a long time. But it's a safe footballs in close games is a game a big place, and there's two big plays butchering the end of the first half. And that terrible fumble by Jones at the beginning of the second half killed Green Band I'm done with it. I'm just done with Took me longer than I wanted to. But it's it's gone and it's out of my system. You want to go on and on and on about it, don't you? You don't actually because most people feel the need to vent, thinking that that will make them feel better. Yeah, of the two. You're better off losing the championship game than losing the Super Bowl. Losing the Super Bowl destroys franchises. I beat everybody that loses the Super Bowl falls apart other than New England when they lost the Super Bowl, But everybody else including San Francisco this year, you lose the Super Bowl and you fall apart. Green Bay by fall apart anyway, there are veteran team Rogers might leave. But Most of the players they have on that team other than Rogers ever in the prime of their careers, and reason to say that they don't have to lose the whole thing and blow it up, not fragile is does leave Green Babe would be faced with a very interesting decision. As to Tried to trade him for seven draft choices and then get rid of two or three other all pros and collect a lot more and try to rebuild. So that in five years you have a dynasty teams that have done that. I think Dallas was the greatest example When Jones and Jimmy Johnson took over that team. That the way to win in the NFL is to get terrible, get a million draft choices and build the dynasty. It's a league of the draft. They'd have a difficult decision as to whether or not you could do that. But What a bunch of all pros behind either Tim Boyle. Air Jordan Love, I think doesn't make any sense. But we'll see. Paul doesn't think Rogers is going to go anywhere. Um See, I put myself in the other guy shoot, and I think I can relate to Rogers. I'd want to go somewhere. On the other hand. I also thought you Alice was going to leave. Because if I were you gotta say, I think it would have wanted to leave. I say that it's somebody who's been here for 32 years. It has never left. So I'm maybe I'm not. May you know that's something to be said. I've had numerous chances. The I haven't wanted to. I didn't think I could find a situation that would better than the one that I had or that have way way way more risks associated with it. So maybe I'm just full of crap. When I say that. That's what I would do it. Well, yeah, no, We're still on this that would see it's your fault. We're still at it posted. The Packers and bucks are eerily similar, so good. They are in the regular season, but they can't win in the playoffs. The thing about that is In every sport. There's only one champion and I could tell you from horse racing. You know when we're in a race with Well, of course, is you have a horse in the Kentucky Derby trail only 20 horses running the Derby. But if there's 4 500 that were on the trail of the beginning of the year, it is very hard. Same college basketball. Another one more so than football because you've got about 300 Division one college basketball teams. It is very hard. Be number one. Out of.
Racing Without Gambling
"I'm guessing you've heard of the Kentucky Derby Abi to this race that's run usually early in May we haven't yet talked about the Kentucky Derby this year but that's about to change as we're finally starting to get into rounds of prep races that will winnow the field down to twenty for the run for the roses on May the second so to help us do that. We bring in voice. We haven't heard on this show for too long and and that's Jonathan Listener who writes for horse racing nation. Welcome back Jonathan. So before we get into a few specific horses. WHO's impressed you the most so far on the triple triple crown trail? I think Dennis moment to start the list. Dentists moment strikes to lead right at the top of the stretch at Delta. Two lanes lead our three lately for the final final furlong. Dennis this moment with five length lead scabbard with clear sailing up the second but Dennis moment kicks off the road at the Kentucky Derby in a big way. He barely moved a muscle. That we we have it. RESTRAINING NATION DOT COM user generated Kentucky Derby contender rankings and despite his trouble that experience career dentist moment has not left that number. One spot. You talking about a grade three winner. Who was going to be the favourite the Breeders Cup Juvenile L. Stumbles out of the gate? You know he could be undefeated if you look back at his debut he lost his jockey was really no fault zone so he has the two losses and between between them. He's sandwich to really really nice. Looking victories including his debut at Ellis Park they won by like nineteen and a quarter lengths. I think it was so there's a lot of potential there and he's one that I feel like every once in a while you hear about a derby prospect before they make their debut and then we kind of latch onto them I wanna say it was probably roadster roadster last year because Baffert said he could be his next justify American Farrow and obviously it didn't work out there but they'll Romans has talked up Dennis's moment since before he he ran a race. And so we're we're kind of going to the same thing here As far as a couple of other runners eight rings also out of the Breeder's cup juvenile. He's a really interesting. One didn't really run his race. You know the last time we saw him but I think the way he's going to be handled this season. You have to keep paying attention trained by Bob Baffert. He's he's GonNa run him in the rebel at Oaklawn. And then the Arkansas Derby potentially there as well and then another one that you know kind of on the fence about that you know. He's got a lot of towns. Is Max `field scratched from the Breeders Cup Juvenile. He had a little bit of an issue. There it turns out we found out a couple of weeks after that that he had had a minor surgery for a bone chip. But he's not even in serious training now. Well he's he's he's apparently galloping No works yet and so I think they'll have to do the to A. Ah kind of schedule where you hope to get race out of them and then you have a more serious race which I would expect to be something like the blue grass stakes if everything works out well and he's undeniable town. I'm and I think he's GonNa win a major race somewhere down the road. I don't know if it's going to be the Kentucky Derby and then the other one I feel like it's gotten all the conversation is independence hall at at Independence Hall now makes his move. Independence Hall is the leader getting away to lead by two prints of Pharaohs has moved up on the outside. It's Bourbon Bay Independence All L. linked and a half as they come for the quarto prints of Pharaohs on the outside Bourbon Bay. It is independence hall with the lead and now a furlong to the finish Jose Ortiz showing them the whip now goes to work on independence hall. WHO has a three likely? Just a sixteen to the finish at. It's the constitution called Independence Hall. Tailwind Jerome by four Knights won the national stakes by open links came back and won the jerome. It was a little more workmanlike. But he's going to go. Oh into the new year here as another one of the favorites and if I could talk about one more that has sort of attracted my attention a little bit. It's this ancient warrior horse. I don't know what his path is going to look like. He's Jerry Hall android or for trainee. And if you follow racing at all the last year or so. You'll know that. He's SORTA become embattled. Dan from the strike. Group's tracks out in California But I of all these horses that have won maiden races and we'll be going to the stakes. I want to watch that one closely. He's moved him over to Oakland Park. We should see him in an allowance. Race coming up at the beginning of February and then from then on he should be on the Derby trail else. That's one that that I definitely want to see more of well. You mentioned Bob Baffert. And it's tough to talk about the Kentucky Derby Trail Without Bob Baffert and he has a lot more than the one you mentioned. There's thousand words who ran a big race in the low sal futurity. I'm a Roger Federer Fan but you have to give it up for an doll who is also ambassador trainee. Who looked really really good? So I mean you know Bob Baffert certainly knows how to get horses to the Derby mean how many of these prospects aspects of pan out. I see a path for all of them. To be honest. You know and we also have mentioned authentic. It's still authentic coming to the three the eight ball. He's been in control throughout leads by a length and a half to uncaptured hero. It's all authentic as they pass the quarter pole and turned for home authentic and complete Khaliq Command turning it on. He's in front by sex with a furlong left to go. Zimba Warrior and Assault Coast as authentic is putting on a show. Here is a little green gene shifting about but long gone authentic strolls home in the sham. He'll win by about eight lakes green. It's Grafton stretch and just kept going there and another extremely impressive Horse Nidal I. I wonder about him a little bit. You know we've only seen him one time on Sunday and that six and a half for a long race he he looks like Dortmund Ortmann if you go back to two thousand fifteen big horse. That wasn't extremely fast out of the gate but once he got into stride he went straight to the pace and never really let up there. Yeah it's not not really the kind of horse you want to win the Derby but I think you could get to the Derby and then thousand words certainly has every reason to move forward his last race. I think they had probably a little bit the too much blinker on him and he ended up going head to head with that no door that ran in the Breeders Cup juvenile second. I think it's SORTA legitimize both of those horses that they ran so closely in the future. But I think thousand words is probably at least a couple of lengths better then a no door. He just probably didn't see him in the stretch until Flavian Kinda guided him out and it's like Oh with the blinker. The horse realized he had something to run against a win on. So I guess when you talk about horses that I'm looking at in the new year. Thousand Words is definitely on that shortlist list to Jonathan Listener of racing. Nation is with us here on the gate. We've talked a little bit about the Breeders Cup juvenile which was a topsy turvy race. You had three big horses that we've mentioned into all had their problems that day. We haven't talked about the horse. Who Wanted Storm the court for trainer Peter Martin and that would be a very popular win in the racing business? As you know what chance do you give storm the court to back up what he did in the juvenile. Oh probably not much not a lot of black type in the family. I'm not sure if there's any black type from Stanley I'd agree wise. And then you know he was obviously the beneficiary of other horses stumbles in that race You Know He. He goes gate to wire was not really pressed a whole lot and at the same time. I think they took the blinker. They put their blinkers on. I'm sorry and I have not a fan of lemon. That put blinkers was on a horse at that point in their career. I feel like you should be taken them off so that they can relax. Prepare to go a little bit longer. I think that race and the circumstances just all all came together for storm the court and allowed him to upset that race. It's forty five to one. Whatever he ended up that day I'm sort of in agreement? I think with everybody else that the the the better Derby Derby prospect was no door and second in that race going forward. I want to mention because these races have just happened. Enforceable label for Mark Cassie. Who is not missed? A beat after a son norm went out on his own. He had been his father's chief assistant and enforceable. Really good winning the Lecomte. But we haven't seen too many Lecompte winners. Go on to run well in the Kentucky Derby. Where do you put me as a tap it colt out of a dixie union in marriage? The breeding is good. I put him a really high on my list. As far as forces will be in the Derby but I would not put him on my list of forces that I think can win the Derby and I say that because of his running style you know if we go back to almost every year that the point system has been effect and obviously gets rid of those pure your sprinters. It's the horses that can put themselves near the front at the beginning of the race and keep that pace up and never be caught by closers that tend to win the Derby enforceable enforceable is one of those closers. It's inevitable that he's GONNA run into traffic problem you know. I almost hope he sneaks into the Derby and everybody overlooks. Because I feel like he's the kind of horse could come into the super factor. That's probably going to be a really common line of thought. Though I mean I'm thinking a few months out but the soup perfect You know in the era of a favorites winning the Derby is as remain because it's pretty high minimum of really profitable wager for people nonetheless so yeah for me. He's a super effective player. I I I think he's GonNa be okay as the distance is longer obviously is a full brother Mohammed and a half years day. There's a lot there in the pedigree just really impressive on paper and it was good to see him run as well as he did you know He. He broke his maiden at nine furlongs last summer at Saratoga and it looks like okay. Here's a real two year old and I you know he ran into you. Go into a little bit shorter and the breeder security at keeneland and Max field because two things came together and got him beat but he's definitely better horse than he showed that day and it was good to see him back it up the trump
In The Gate #416 - Mining for a Gem
"Away. Great news. There's a quick way. You can save money. Switch to Geico. Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price. And it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. Kelly. Rube is not the first person we've ever interviewed on this show who earned a master's degree but decided to train horses. Instead, she is however, the only one who gave up an academic career to hunt foxes now, she has a formidable Preakness contender always mining. We'll talk with Kelly rudely. Plus, it's time for a refresher on how stewards interpret the whole d Q rule. I'm guessing, you know, why? And we're going to do something. We've never done before on this show. We're going to go through some Twitter chatter. That's spewed out after the you know what? And what it means for the sport going forward? Stay in your lane or you'll be disqualified from listening to this show. The about to be IRAs. Off. This is in the gate ESPN's. Thoroughbred racing podcast. My name is Barry Abrams. You can follow me on Twitter at be Abrams boys or on Facebook at Barry Abrams, boys. You can also get us on our YouTube channel by searching in the gate podcast. You can get us on soundcloud as well yet us at the. I tuned store or tune in dot com. You can get us on that little pink pod catcher app on your phone. You didn't even know you had. And now you can subscribe to win the gate in the listen tab of the ESPN app for the full in the gate experience of scribe now in the listen tab of the ESPN app. Welcome back your dreams where your ticket out. Those were the opening lines of the legendary nineteen seventies TV show. Welcome back kotter where the main character played by Gabe Kaplan returns to his New York City high school to become a teacher. Our next guest has done the reverse Kelley rube. We grew up loving horses and upstate New York grew up to become a middle school science teacher and then left. That stable career to return to the stables on TV, Mr. Qatar dealt with a group of teenage guys who seemed comically incapable of maturing into adults Kelly rudely now a thoroughbred trainer has an equine version of a teenager as three year olds in the spring, basically are, but this guy has done some growing up in the last few months, always mining. We'll have to make a three wide bid and he's willing to do. It always finding up to try for gold as Zinni off the scene now in position less than three alongs to go and always mining now in front from try for goal turning for home in Federica Teissier sakes, all ways mining set down and opens up a four length lead on try for goal always mining with a six now a seven Lang lead always mining robbing home past the Laura line and headed to the Preakness always mining comes into the Preakness on a six race winning streak albeit in races. Quite as rigorous as those on the Kentucky, Derby trail, none the less. The three year old gelding is answered the rhetorical question about dreams that you hear on welcome back kotter who'd have thought they lead you back here where we need you and buy back here. We mean to Maryland where Kelly ruble is based at fair hill with a chance to claim one of the American spring classics, and we welcome trainer Kelly ruby here too in the gate. This horse has made twelve starts already maximum security. Maybe you've heard of him has made five including that whole Kentucky Derby thing. The last nine of always mining starts have come in laurel in the last six of those have been wins, all enlisted or overnight stakes. What's been your philosophy on how to bring them along? He he was purchased by my current owners after his maiden win. So he's only been with me since he ran on the grass in Maryland last summer. So, you know, we've kind of just strategically followed the past the Maryland route tickets where we're at today. What mood the light bulb turn on forum last October when this winning streak started? I wish I could answer that. He's always been a very nice horse. I mean anyone is made nicely. I think the goal was always to stretch out. And they were very limited races for two year olds when we ran them on the grass. So after that we also have to just sit tight and wait till they had a route race for us. And obviously he relished the mile you grew up in central New York, which is not exactly horse country. I know I went to Syracuse. What made you even want to get involved with horses up in that perpetual league gray bleak part of the world. I don't know. I guess it was ever since I could walk or talk I'll ever wanted to do with the around horses. So it was just naturally in me. But yes, it was a little limited. I started writing at a quarter horse barn actually started competing on the quarter horse survey doing jumpers and hunters and from there, but an event horse and started shipping down to the Maryland, Pennsylvania area. And that's kind of how I ended up in the air. Area fair hill. But listen to your parents, you earn two master's degrees. Two masters degrees. It became a middle school science teacher. Now, first of all, they're possibly be a more draining job in the world. And being a middle school teacher. I actually really enjoyed that age the students are you know, there's just starting to develop themselves much like a young horse. So I thought they were a lot of fun. But yes, it's exhausting, and it wasn't necessarily something. I could see myself doing in the future. Which is why I went back and got my second masters for administration inside that for three years. And then decided you know, what horses are meant to be. We what happens you were wearing a suit as an administrator and everything and did you just have an piffle. Or was it a gradual thing it was gradual? You know, even when I was teaching. I went into the administration because the fact that I'd already voted so much of my time, and my education towards the education were also what could I do move up the ladder in that respect? So I tried the administrative row and decided that it was just for me it allowed more flexible hours than my current job. But it just wasn't something. I had a passion for jelly rudely. Rainer of Preakness contender always mining. Joining us here on the gate now before you get to fair hill, which you mentioned you leave teaching school for FOX hunting in Pennsylvania. Is that a thing that was just a job to kind of regroup and see what I was going to do with my life. But yes, I was managing harm, and we accented I we didn't really have an opportunity in where I grew up. I never FOX hunted in my life. So it was a unique experience in something that I greatly enjoy. But it also got me my start with Barclay tag here at their hill. How I started galloping for him here. He had a string at fair hill and my gal for him and then eventually moved up to become his assistant. How do you go from FOX hunting and Pennsylvania to fair hill and being an exercise rider? Well, I mean that job was just pretty much to move me to this area to figure out what I was going to do. And that's. When I met Parkway and became an exercise rider for them with the goal that I would eventually become an assistant and kind of learn the horse racing world from the ground up. What did your parents say about what you chosen to do? With those two masters degrees. They were not thrilled. They still think I'm a little nuts. And the fact that you know, I work seven days a week. And I haven't had a day off and many years, but we've had a little bit of success. They're starting to kind of be what my my goal was a long, and they're you know, they're coming around. But still it wasn't ideal in there is at the time. Well in light of that. How nervous will you when you finally decided to go out on your own? I wouldn't say I was nervous. You know? It was a goal, and I like I'm somewhat of a driven person. And so I had a goal. And I knew when I became an assistant as the idea was to learn as much as I could to have an eventual string of my own, and you know, it came around gradually and worked I way into it. And so it was just a natural flow. Really? I'm guessing you're hoping that the success of always mining will lead to more business how big a stable do you have? And how big would you like it to be? I have about forty horses in training right now. We've had more in the past. I'm a very hands on person. I checked every horse's legs every morning. So I don't know how we'd like to go. We'd like to continue to improve the stable and have a nice allowance level stable. So you know, it just depends on I don't know that there's a magic number to stop at. It's just when I feel like I can't stand up everything that I'm going to have to take a minute and relook at it. It is always morning still in control leads almost two legs. From is six furlongs twelve three sixty s lift to go with like the distances. No problem at all. For always finding always minding kept attest opening up a half dozen on Joey his second and tai-bo third. Always mining wants to run all day, always minding to win it by six or so we've talked on this show recently about the stickiness of the future of the Preakness. But considering that always mining. Is one six in a row with loyal race course and made nine of his twelve career starts there. I'm guessing you personally wouldn't be too opposed to running the Preakness there this year. This year. That'd be perfect. That's going to happen. I mean, how concerned are you that he can bring his race track with him? Even though it's still in the state of Maryland. Actually, I think the Tenneco course going to set him up nicely. It's got a nice long stretch. And he just has a very large scale thing stride. So I I I don't see this the track change to be a problem. We're going to have to do it. Eventually, then I'm guessing you don't mind seeing that just about all of the top derby contenders are going elsewhere now that plays well for us, absolutely more. We certainly wish you the best of luck here. Kelly ruby. Thank you so much for sharing a few minutes with us. Thank you. Thank you haven't. We're going to take our first break here on in agape when we come back. It's time to revisit that whole d Q rule and how it's interpreted on guessing, you know, why we need a refresher. So go