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DeAndre Jordan Intends to Sign With Los Angeles Lakers
"Let's shift some ears. Talk some basketball a monday morning. Because the veteran lakers about to get even more veteran e big men de'andre jordan intends to sign with the lakers after being traded and then bought out by the distance jordan would be the tenth laker h thirty two or older and six of those guys thirty five plus nick jordan on the same team. Never thought i'd see the day Do you like the lakers bringing in deandra jordan. Nice good line janna listen. We're still getting the edible arrangements in the sheri's berries my for apologies that were from the audience last week. But you can feel free to send more to me. And by the way if you're feeling generous include kenny atkinson who lost his job arguably because he saw what i saw in fall which is de'andre jordan's not great at the old basketball anymore and now the nets finally admitted as they say. Hey you can have deandre jordan in detroit says no. We don't want them feel like what did we include six million dollars. They're like us. Don't want what we include for. Second round picks like okay. We'll take him and then we'll ask him to leave and now the legs are gonna take them. So i i understand that folks probably expect me to say well with lebron on it. He'll be different exam while. I do believe that braun has the ability to get the most out of any and all teammates. He's played with for now. Eighteen plus years. There has to be something to be gotten and driving. This moves. the needle for the lakers. No
"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Guys listen to Kenny Atkinson deangelo Russell he listen to Kenny Atkinson and they were rewarded so his voice is the same because Kyra Irving doesn't listen to all show me the coach it is going to get through the carrier of I don't think there is one there's been a problem everywhere he's been so you basically everything you built the right way all the hard work he gave it up for a guy who can't stay healthy and again it's not healthy now I know they're great players nobody would dispute that but now you're gonna let them run the organization I mean that's the sick that is trying for the quick fix that is the easy way out and now to have them and it is them regards will D. Andre Jordan or anybody else says and please said the Andre Jordan about all its nonsense they're making stuff up that it's not the rain car you're big you know we all know that carrier having Kevin Durant had Kenny Atkinson pushed out anyone there because if they did he would be there it's simple facts about reporter neither are you we could all do the math it's disgraceful what they've done and while they were very likable organization prior because they did it the right way with unknowns like marks and Atkinson now it's the complete opposite now again Durant and carry all the villains and they got rid of a very good had great to read they can coach who didn't deserve to lose his job I hope the next time as much as I love Jeff van Gundy I consent to better fit because you know that guy can develop players that guy's gonna get the most out of young players put them put them all in positions to succeed and get them to play hard and buy in and the only way he doesn't have a voice is if somebody takes the rug out from under when you allow the players to have a voice I don't care how good a player carrier Irving is there's no way he should be coming here and had a big voice this is acting since team you should have joined the group and you could tell that it was all from the beginning the net should have been better than what they wore even with Irving being hurt they want the same team as they wore a year ago and they took that away they wound that team for the chance to Kevin Durant carrier Irving and I get why they did that they weren't there weren't the only team that would have done something like that but now they better go out there and win a championship you know a multiple I don't think they will I'm sorry I don't think they won't be Duran is gonna be good enough when he comes back from the significant injury I don't think I ever will ever stay healthy the nets I saw had been having tweet this they sold their soul and that's the perfect way to put that Evan Roberts tweeting that about his beloved nets and to me that is the wrong thing it's disgraceful eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six producer Rosie help me out here now so we tell me about the sharks games being cancelled so the city of San Jose is in Santa Clara county yeah in Santa Clara county in California obviously just put a band for three weeks on events with more than one thousand people to stop the spread of the corona so Santa Clara county has put a ban on events with more than one thousand people in one spot at one time for three weeks three weeks correct and that would include three sharks games three sharks games to barracuda games five nights of the cirque de soleil Tony Robbins is a motivational speaker and Marc Anthony Robbins animal gave the country its old all canceled so now the point is that this can happen anywhere this is going to be state edicts now yeah I would think all of the sporting decisions are state and local decisions so it's not just the NBA knowledge like baseball so if the quiz show if the you know the borough president of queens whoever that is says were or thank Cuomo or whoever says I'm banning events with more than a thousand people in New York City the the Mets or Yankees can't do anything about that right and seem could be for a town that is hosting one of the sites for the NC double a tournament absolutely I mean this is this is going to be a major problem here this it'll it already is a major problem this is now going to get worse and worse somebody's gotta step and stop this year I mean it's out of control it sharks games and nobody really cares about certainly here but if it's if it's at Hillel I mean nobody cares about it outside a producer Rosie but if it's any double a tournament if it's Major League Baseball I mean this this is going to be if it's NBA NHL playoffs what this is this is getting worse and worse I was gone for a month now I thank weeks at least I mean it started in obviously in China I think mid January issue when the first reports of this store I think right and now sort of spread like wildfire yeah relatively speaking handle the numbers seem like a lot but compared to the people that you know are populating the country it's not really that bad but when you start now postponing these events anything over a thousand people we're gonna have some issues remain and it's a problem eight seven seven three that just came down yeah that just happened and it would be interesting I don't know what the NHL NHL is my favorite sports fascinates me how they're gonna handle it now the good part for them I guess is the sharks and nowhere near playoff spot yeah so the journey or something not really but you have to play even because they might be playing teams that are fighting for a spot so how do you do that right they go they have to play them outside of Santa Claus you play them outside of Santa Clara do you play them in this at the S. A. P. center with nobody there which is a possibility I think that's still allowed I would only have a thousand people or more right and so you can play that with media radio guys in the team in your inner thousand people okay but there's nobody there that maybe that's what they're gonna do to get out star appointees games an empty arenas at the worst because they can't just cancel the games and not play them that would back everything up now the hockey games like you said unless it's a team that's of fighting for a playoff spot but still with the NC double a stop in the tournament this week in baseball betting day this is this is going to be bad and somebody needs to figure out something here soon but I put all the doctors in a in a room gets a gigabit a vaccine for this I mean it's essentially the flow is what everybody's saying you take about a vaccine for it come up eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six Carlos in Ridgewood hi Carlos I don't stop good Carlos how are you I'm not a great so what do you think about the mac fired their head coach and like I don't know where did you know that there was they're not getting along with KVM carrying yeah we're done with that we didn't just hear me out for the last thirty minutes essentially calls I was talking about where were you yeah I got a wall father duties call yeah I I think that it was all Kevin Durant carrier yes absolutely I think the nets of let those two guys be in control here yeah because you know what I'm in the NBA when a head coach is going to go they actually talk to the young NBA players are like okay so who do you wanna go first you know is that they're not going to let go of KD and curry no it's Irving and Kevin Durant wanted Kenny I consider to be the head coach only the B. that coach exactly thanks but they but they were in my opinion calls the wrongfully chose the superstar players over what they had any team that was being built the right way yeah so I get the math that went and who do you think they're gonna hire like next year who you think is going to take over I have no idea who I maybe maybe Tyronn Lue whoever's best friends carrier than Kevin Durant whoever's gonna make them thanks for the call calls whoever's going to make them feel comfortable whoever Kyrene KD wanna play for as their head coach that's who they're gonna hire I mean to me it's just soul backwards the NBA drives me nuts with that really all sports but the NBA in particular with a let the superstars dictate everything I can see if you're desperate for lebron James where you know you wanted to come to your team so you let him do whatever specially in his prime but even doing that now I guess I could see that because talk about more of the greatest players of all time I would not do that especially break of a good thing that the nets had going I would not do that for Kevin Durant and carrier I think the nets made a big mistake here by choosing choosing the supers up again I get the appeal it's tempting it would be tempting they made a mistake and they're gonna pay for and Iran and Irving if they don't win it's gonna feel the wrath maybe they wouldn't have if I can see it was still the coach but the way that they dismissed the guy was well liked and well respected by people that covered on in this town because a we did how many worked hard he did it the right way any build them from the ground up not with money not with great assets they found good players in the draft and they develop them the right way and they just dump at all for the star power in carving who is just a complete not job I mean carrier Irving he's Hey look thank you you want to be yourself you don't want to you know take anybody else's yours and find good good for you be your own individual that's fine but he's been a an issue everywhere he's been and Kevin Durant a guy who loves being on Twitter and talking to be getting sensitive on Twitter at all it's okay was a point a game for the nets and not only serve you talk about out there and been an issue everywhere he's been he can stay healthy and produce neither of the two F. but yet they're deciding who the head coaches when you hand the keys over to those two guys you're in trouble not just go to any players but those two guys have done nothing here the one thing about Patrick Ewing and you get your input after you know fifteen years of porn your blood sweat and tears and.
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on Sports 600 ESPN
"Ways of the NBA the nets that coach Kenny Atkinson have agreed to mutually part ways despite Brooklyn currently holding the seventh seed in the east at twenty eight and thirty four coming off a win over San Antonio on Friday night that's not having superstar Kevin Durant out for the season recovering from a torn Achilles and carrier of a missing most of the season is currently are recovering from right shoulder surgery it's GM Sean marks out of any players were involved in this decision we use the pliers and a lot of different ways whether it's Kenny thinking about states and schemes and so forth I think in this this matter this didn't involve the players this this was a matter of where it was really decision between Kenny and myself and we brought in ownership when we needed to and we arrived at this decision service was surely amicable and and and mutually agreed upon between between those parties can add kids to the dead said coach for three plus seasons Brooklyn a playoff team last season around the warns Frank guys solo series on a trip that job at player development which is so important in the league that's what I don't understand why you just one ride it out for the rest of the season because carriers are coming back in Kevin Durant's are playing so the only these are the guys that Kenny is used to working with I I don't the timing of it for me it is pretty odd ESPN's Adrian origin Askey says that Kenny Atkinson won't be out of a job for long what about any one game more your structure two or three I think this was a longer view from both sides you know those two have been close I think will remain close you know they built this organization together they built into a place that Kevin Durant and Kyra Irving came as free agents which no one would imagine three plus years ago when they took over that that so quickly would become this kind of a free agent destination but Gerry Adams will be in great demand around the NBA especially with teams will look at that broken model you know the rebuilt and and I mean I have to leave at half the league right now and so they will be there may be no more pursuit culture can be active this offseason now it's time for stray dog bread you buy straight talk wireless ESPN NBA front office insider Bobby marks previously worked as the nets assistant GM and is baffled by this decision I don't know if I buy the new boys because Irving's been out almost hearing and Duran has employee so it's not like this group has been together for three or four years and they said you know what we're going to issue an internal right it kind of ran its course you get to buy Easter converts finals you get the multiple Eastern Conference semi finals you just can't get over the hump and you going to different direction with the nurse and I and I understand that rationale but I don't I I don't understand the the concept of you know the new voice straight talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart Kenny Atkinson was the dad said coach for three plus seasons of Brooklyn was a playoff team last season but at.
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"Of things that we need to touch on too because as the superstars continue to show their power to get a guy like Kenny Atkinson fired well there are ripple effects of that across the NBA the way the NBA continues to involved because of tanking there's ripple effects of that and Kenny Atkinson is an interesting symbol of all that so first I want to play for you this is Sean marks at his press conference after Kenny Atkinson got fired talking about why Atkinson got fired without coaching the actual team of the healthy Kyra Irving and Kevin Durant together here's what he said I would love to see your courses across this is our question of that but the situation and circumstances where we're up to that is you know we're trying to take this program from where we are now so to another level and I think we both agreed along with ownership but changes this year this time to do that should they want to go to another level and they needed a different coach to do that to hear what the NBA I hear that a lot in the NBA now you look at all these different cultures and it's like well the team's gonna suck for five years they want to suck for five years that's really the goal because tanking is the way the world now and I I'll say this I do understand tanking in fact I support it I've done it many times in my fantasy football league to the point where people hate me but you know what if it's a winning strategy you got to take it if it's going to give you the assets to get you the star players especially in markets where people don't want to sign with you then you do it right but as they tank now it's this weird space where all these NBA coaches what happens is you get hired and it's like Hey we're going to have you for those first couple years with the team socks and if you can develop some guys that would repeat it be great if you could turn a second rounder do a really good starter if you can get an undrafted guy and make it worthwhile we're gonna love you for but that's only phase one of the equation what gets a face to we don't want anything to do with you you're gonna get fired it's probably gonna be somebody else like that is the way the world now there's so many coaches when you look across the NBA you think I want to three years and they're actually good he's probably not gonna be there isn't it weird isn't it strange thing to do the league's involved this way where we almost have to different classifications of coaches it is detecting stage coach that is only there to babysit your a nanny right yes as the kids are poop in their pants you're there to change the diaper but once they grow up well then at that point somebody else is coming in and they're taking the job and they're going to get the glory and they're gonna get the titles in your the guy that just was there when none of it mattered that's the way the world that's a Kenny Atkinson now that's what he's getting billed as I think he's going to get chances to do more than that he certainly hasn't had already but as of now he is one of those guys he's seen as somebody that's just here to watch the young kids grow up Brett brown hired by the Sixers his job was to watch the young kids grow up you look at what's going on in Memphis like how long are they going to have that coach I don't know what to do I mean they're losing for now and like maybe they make the playoffs this year John Marantz been great they've got some fire tomb like yeah but when they get really good when John Moran if he reaches that superstar level is gonna have the same coach I don't know probably not like that's just how things are so that's one of those side effects that you get now that the league has changed so dramatically now that tanking is so in vogue in it and and deliberate now that superstars have so much say because part of it is like the nets you could build this whole thing and then suddenly you get a superstar could you have enough pieces to convince him to stay but then they go okay well now they're here you got to get rid of all these other things we got to trade these people to get other superstars on the team that's what you gotta do it's just the way the world that's how the NBA works now you have to K. for your superstars they have all the power and people don't like it but they deserve it their impact on the game is too great they've earned it and so it's not just it's happening just because when people are scared of the players it's that is the only way you win in so if you're going to make those sacrifices you do it and you live with the consequences you hope it works out but I can't blame these guys I can't blame the nets for making that kind of move in firing Kenny Atkinson it's a shock I feel bad for the guy he deserves a chance to coach with Kevin Durant Kyra Irving but if they said no that's the way the world you've been lucky if he made it so a five five two one two four two two seven that's a joint show Vince Quinn with you here on CBS sports radio when we come back we'll get a little bit more into what's going on with the NBA and how the superstar players have all of this leveraging really house sometimes superstars just really screw things up that's all coming up next but first here's a sports update with people Carthy sports flag well the first ticket punched to the dance and it wasn't fifth ranked San Diego state plan gets a shot shot off it is up it is champions it was Scott Garrard Learfield IMG college the Aztecs done by Utah state fifty nine fifty six in the mountain west championship the big east regular season title shared amongst three teams could have belonged to Seton hall but they've lost at Creighton Villanova the third squad in the mix after they beat George town still great will have the number one seed in the Big East Tournament Villanova at the zoo and Seton hall at three and Florida state when.
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"Now here's where things do need to touch on too because as the superstars continue to show their power to get a guy like Kenny Atkinson fired well there are ripple effects of that across the NBA the way the NBA continues to evolve because of tanking there's ripple effects of that and Kenny Atkinson is an interesting symbol of all that so first I want to play for you this is Sean marks at his press conference after Kenny Atkinson got fired talking about why Atkinson got fired without coaching the actual team of the healthy Kyra Irving and Kevin Durant together here's what he said I would love to see your courses guys this is a question of fact but the situation and circumstances where we're up to that is you know we're trying to take this program from where we are now so to another level and I think we have both agreed along with ownership but changes this year this time to do that should they want to go to another level and they needed a different coach to do that to hear a lot of the NBA I hear that a lot in the NBA now you look at all these different cultures it's like well the team's gonna suck for five years they want to suck for five years that's really the goal because tanking is the way the world now and I yeah I'll say this I do understand tanking in fact I support it I've done it many times in my fantasy football league to the point where people hate me but you know what if it's a winning strategy you got to take it if it's going to give you the assets to get you the star players especially in markets where people don't want to sign with you then you do it right but as they tank now it's this weird space where all these NBA coaches what happens is you get hired and it's like Hey we're going to have you for those first couple years with the team socks and if you can develop some guys that would ruby integrate Hey if you could turn a second rounder into a really good starter if you can get an undrafted guy and make it worthwhile we're gonna love you for but that's only phase one of the equation once you get the face to we don't want anything to do with you and you're gonna get fired it's probably gonna be somebody else like that is the way the world now there's so many coaches when you look across the NBA you think I will two three years and they're actually good he's probably not gonna be there isn't it weird it's a strange thing to do the league's involved this way where we almost have to different classifications of coaches it is detecting stage coach that is only there to babysit your a nanny right your as the kids are poop in their pants you're there to change the diaper but once they grow up well then at that point somebody else is coming in and they're taking the job and they're going to get the glory and they're gonna get the titles in your the guy that just was there when none of it mattered that's the way the world that's a Kenny Atkinson now that's what he's getting billed as I think he's going to get chances to do more than that he certainly hasn't had already but as of now he is one of those guys he's seen as somebody that's just here to watch the young kids grow up Brett brown hired by the Sixers his job was to watch the young kids grow up you look at what's going on in Memphis like how long are they going to have that coach I don't know what to do I mean they're losing for now and like maybe they make the playoffs this year John Moran it's been great they've got some fire till my death but when they get really good when John Moran if he reaches that superstar level is going to have the same coach I don't know probably not like that's just how things are so that's one of those side effects that you get now that the league has changed so dramatically now that tanking is so in vogue in it and and deliberate now that superstars have so much say because part of it is like the nets you could build this whole thing and then suddenly you get a superstar could you have enough pieces to convince him to stay but then they go okay well now they're here you got to get rid of all these other things we got to trade these people to get other superstars on the team that's what you gotta do it's just the way the world that's how the NBA works now you have to K. for your superstars they have all the power and people don't like it but they deserve it their impact on the game is too great they've earned it and so it's not just it's happening just because in people are scared of the players it's that is the only way you win in so if you're going to make those sacrifices you do it and you live with the consequences you hope it works out but I can't blame these guys I can't blame the nets for making that kind of move in firing Kenny Atkinson it's a shock I feel bad for the guy he deserves a chance to coach with Kevin Durant Kyra Irving but if they said no that's the way the world you've been lucky if he made it so a five five two one two four two two seven that's a joint show on Vince Quinn with you here on CBS sports radio when we come back we'll get a little bit more into what's going on with the NBA and how the superstar players have all of this leveraging really house sometime superstars just really screw things up that's all coming up next but first here's a sports update with people Carthy.
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Amber that the nets and Kenny Atkinson mutually part ways I love the wording of it right we mutually we both decided that we needed to go different directions always wonder what if one person was like actually cool with the way everything set up what do you still be the head coach some tells me probably not probably not no I think it's a little bit like invite you know when you are in a relationship and you want to make sure that you break up with the person before they break up right so then if they start breaking up with you then you just jump in like I think we should see other people you know right I was with you on this I think in this for a long time this is a mutual parting of ways you are not helping me no no we're doing this together if this is really weird to me so when I heard the news starts scratching my head because I thought aren't the nets in the playoffs right now there's a seven seed without Kevin Durant the entire year and I mean you've had kind of re for a couple games twenty games I believe and for them to still be in the playoff hunt I thought he was doing a really good job this makes no sense to me at all and it can't be performance space because I mean on Tuesday the next they beat the Celtics in Boston I think we both believe that's a very good self exam they go they blow out the spurs on Friday and then on Saturday he's fired I mean it doesn't make any sense like you mentioned the nets are are the seven seed right now they made the playoffs last year every single year during his tenure he has not only developed the young talents which he clearly has done but in these first three seasons of before this one his win totals row with every single year and of course we note that in the notes are also making the playoffs it can't be performance based because I think that's all anybody could have expected out of him during his tenure with Brooklyn that so far it's got to be it has to have something to do with Kevin Durant Kyrie Irving right has to be because of the drama obviously K. D. hasn't been available this season fine there's been some weirdness around Tiree Irving and some weirdness out of that locker room this season and it has to be because of that she is amber Wilson I'm in the golden this is game day on ESPN radio shot marks the nets general manager talk to the media shortly and not that long ago and he talked about the impact that the ranking Carrie had on this decision same way the rest of Nicole all seventeen players factored into a song that I've just got done talking to them on our end and updating them yeah I had so I kind of went through something like this in Cleveland with the Cavaliers and John B. line where the players just didn't like John B. line now obviously the cavs or in a different situation there a lottery team you know they're they're not playing very well this year so you could reason that a way you can okay the team was under performing and you we needed a change this is a team that again seven right now in the Eastern Conference and they're playing good basketball without their two superstars I'm amazed that they decided to go this route also amber makes me feel like I know the the NBA players have a lot of power it makes me feel like they're not using this power correctly I don't mind I don't mind the players having the power in Leeds but it seems like they just I don't like this guy get a model here they don't care about whether the guy's a good culture not I don't agree with you that they're not using using it correctly because I think that if you've reached a certain point a certain stature as a player then you should have some say I'm okay with you having some say in that situation a player of Kevin Durant Excalibur even Tyree Irving's caliber those dudes first of all I think we both believe those dudes don't feel like they need to be coached I have a feeling at this point in our careers right those two dudes probably feel like I got this I I don't think so much but don't the grades below always want to be coach don't they always want to get better like I do I've I've seen lebron up close and so if you are covered the team while he was in he was in Cleveland and I saw the bride being coached every day and working hard it didn't seem like he didn't they didn't seem like he pushed coaching away now he and David Blatt didn't hit it off but he was fine with Ty Lue telling them Hey shut up this is what we're going to going to do yes I used to make fun down here all the time when Tyler was his coach because we used to say you know it's lebron's team about the broadest coaching or you know he's rolling his eyes at the clipboard when they're twenty it would lose of their drawing up plays partly dealing with poster right do you think that like spokes for coach them and they do I think schools are coached him I also think that one of the reasons that lebron left Miami is because he wanted less so that he wanted a lesser being told what to do frankly he wanted more control and he wanted more on our and frankly on the court yes there is that of course loves the snow you can tell because of where he also is now right aside from your beautiful weather up there in Cleveland I think he wanted less of that frankly I think lebron James is a player who was you're gonna drop plays from you're going to coach the team overall but I don't think he thinks his game needs to be coached and I think that's probably the same feeling amongst Kevin Durant at this point and probably even Kyra Irving because we know it's appears anyways Tyree Irving's that one of those players who all believes in himself to an extreme degree maybe a little too much but believes himself to an extreme degree so I think if I'm imagining in that Brooklyn nets locker room with those two guys I'm imagining they feel like it's K. D. comes back and said they want to coach of the actually like yeah let's hear from a drone wars and Ralph E. ESPN NBA insider joint dari in male and he kinda gives us some insight on why the the nets made his move this is a conversation that's been going on between the GM Sean marks our coach Kenny Atkinson for a while and they both felt that this was inevitable but this was going to come in the off season that Kenny thought he had gone as far you could go with his group with his voice and big Sean marks it come to agree with that instead of waiting till the season was over you know that you know it is confusing to people because they just put the spurs out last night but what about any one game more you know stretch of two with three I think this was a larger view from both sides but those two have been close I think will remain close you know they built this organization together they've gotten to a place that Kevin Durant and curry Irving came as free agents which no one would imagine three plus years ago when they took over the debt so quickly would become this kind of a free agent destination but Kelly actions will be in great demand around the NBA especially with teams will look at that broken model you know the rebuilt and and I mean I have to leave at half the league right now and so they will be there may be no more pursuit culture can be active this offseason are specially with so many teams in that transition period for the next hour you know they're trying to find a coach who they think can help them get to a championship level when they've got the rare in Irving and and the score back next season this is game day on ESPN radio I'm in a gold alongside amber Wilson actually get it now after hearing won't understand it they looked and they said you know what we're not going to bring a concern back next year we're in a seven seat this time again that lottery baby we can't have him win in these games and getting those bounced in the first round we're not going to bring them back so let's cut the deck right now you know let's let everybody know we're not trying to win put a cap on the season is over maybe they can sneak in a lottery why couldn't they have brought him back next year though I mean why like there was no answer to that why and the only answer to that has to somewhat be what's going on there with doctor and what's going on there with Kyra Irving that's got to be the only answer only because I don't even mean to imply that they don't like any actions that he was one of the most well respected coaches leads very popular coach it's just so shocking and he has done a good job with what he's been handed in Brooklyn we do assume like just said there that I. he's part of the job why those guys came to Brooklyn and so for them this decision to be made it particularly this week with their performance this week as a team it just doesn't add up in the last there is discord in that locker room that they're trying to obviate yeah it doesn't it doesn't make sense at all I I would even be wary knowing that you know carry Irvine is one of the guys that you know the wind could blow a certain way and maybe he'll feel differently I'd be really worried about that that's been straight talk brought you by straight talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart coming up next could Kenny Atkinson end up coaching across town with the nets that straight ahead the box the.
Kenny Atkinson out as Brooklyn Nets coach in surprise split
"In a surprise move this morning Kenny Atkinson outs as head coach of the Brooklyn nets before even getting a chance to coach Kevin Durant's anti re Irving together is both set out with season ending injuries the team announced the mutual split this morning and name Jacques Vaughn the coach the rest of
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"Source of sports and professor of pop culture he's robin Lundberg regular virtual here on CBS sports radio very surprising news of the NBA still sort of processing it right now Kenny Atkinson out as the next head coach I mean surprising obviously because he he's been without Irving without Kevin Durant you know you're in for most of the season without Kevin Durant for the entire season and for it to happen so suddenly I wouldn't say that that's a very good season I mean that would be overstating it but it hasn't been a disaster either I mean it's easy to qualify for the playoffs and the ease that currently at the seventh seed at this moment I'm Jacque Vaughn will will serve as the interim coach for the the Brooklyn nets speculations gonna go wild here because it was such a sudden move that that nobody really saw coming and when you have lightning rods like Kevin Durant and and especially Kyra Irving as a a part of the the the team in the organization their arm I imagine that will you know factor in to the the entire the entire issue the entire situation but as far as the the nets go I'm very surprised to see this this go down and because of you know the way it went down like I said that's where you're gonna get the the reaction from people as far as how it went down what went on I'd imagine that job is really highly coveted and I trust Sean marks as the guy running that team so I don't think he would do anything rash as far as when something to the detriment of the team but it is surprising to see it happen the way it unfolded Anthony yet what's your reaction to it right off the the the top it's very surprising because I mean they were I didn't hear any you know and clings of any you know discord or any issue with Kenny Atkinson and again what what was the guy supposed to do I mean with with the talent that I mean he had without no Kyrene without no Kevin Durant and I just for me personally and you know you since you watch them being in that span I I would never point to any of the nets issues and say all that's on Kenny Atkinson like to to point the finger at him yeah it makes you think there was something going on behind the scenes or I don't know I mean I Sean marks like I said I trust him as an evaluator so I I don't think he would do anything nuts so I I don't think he would be you know just fire Kenny Atkinson let's say because Kyra Irving said I I you know I have an issue with Kenny active right immediately but if there was something to build towards it he thought it was you know to the long term good of what they're trying to build that then I I could see making the move thank and it is fair to say I think that if if Tyree and Kevin Durant were fully behind Atkinson he probably wouldn't be fired today or because this would have happened I think that's fair to say I'll put that's a good job I mean because you're coming in the next year with a fully loaded did walk in the door with a a championship level core I mean you're you're basically it's the job that Frank Vogel took last year right the it's it's very equivalent to that the the job that that Frank Vogel took last year eight five five two one two four two two seven let's go to Mitch in New Jersey meet your up next on CBS sports radio Robert how you doing good show thank you Sir ravers with the Tom Brady I think he's gonna go to charges it makes sense I can really acting as a better chance of putting them all over Todd didn't they they ran going further than what they were last year I mean look I think the club as collateral may related charges that you never have the fairy you might would I like you know I got your back today I went all in eighteen hundred Carl Dickinson make Intel team spike Lee's right back ever since I think it was because it is a hard time it's not final but in and what's with all no one starts down the form what used as you have said money of keep the format in L. S. well yeah I mean that's what the bombers trying to get that for the clippers and I think he at last I saw that was close to happening but there would be other was a fight around that arena and told him put him both in that as well he certainly was time to get every topic I have not as of yet in another one.
Nets snap 7-game skid with 117-113 win over Heat
"The Brooklyn nets snapped a seven game losing streak with a one seventeen to one thirteen come from behind win over Miami the next trial by twelve at halftime sixty nine fifty seven but a thirty two point third quarter pulled them even eighty nine after three Miami did recover for nine point fourth quarter advantage but Spencer did when he took control the nets guard finished with twenty six points and fourteen assists nets coach Kenny Atkinson on his clubs effort maybe one of the highest intensity games we played all year I think you know backs were to the wall a little bit excellent team a real credit to the guys Jimmy Butler had thirty three for the heat to a one eight of eleven and sit at twenty seven eleven the debts are seventeen and twenty Mike thank you so New York
Kyrie, KD and Company: The Evolution of the New Brooklyn Nets
"Right now the nets are one of the more star studded teams in Bass ball this summer they went out and signed Kyrie Irving Kevin Durant De'andre Jordan and while Katie's not playing this year they are still seen as contenders but back in twenty six eighteen when coach Kenny Atkinson I came on board what did this team look like it was just a lot of hope and nothing much to base it on they won twenty games his first year they didn't win a game in February and they honestly really didn't have any genuine cowan right they traded for aging vets Paul Pearson Kevin Garnett well it's funny billy king and broker off before them decided to put all their chips in and give away all of the future first round picks and it was one of the most lopsided deals in history it's one thing right to have young players and not a lot of games I think we call that tanking but they couldn't even do that because they weren't even eligible to get the draft picks to draft picks we're going to the Boston Celtics who are picking guys like Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum with those picks so nets were behind the ball then when they hired a new GM Sean marks at twenty six teen what was his approach well Sean was just he's just so smart in Kenny's the same way they were really stuck on what's our culture going to be we're going to play unselfishly it's going to be a player I organization we're going to see solidifies player performance and so you need the right kind of player to buy into that now you know a guy like Joe Harris who had an accomplished anything yet of course he was gonNA buy in but that's why they stay away from some of the veterans because they were afraid they wouldn't they just felt it was really important to establish that foundation as they went forward here so this culture that the nets were establishing it was markedly different from the rest of the NBA it wasn't a it was revolutionary but they just took it to another level check out the Brooklyn practice facility it's the nicest one in the league it's cold tubs hot tub store eight of the yard pools to help with conditioning there's a rooftop that has the most magnificent view of the New York skyline they wanted to make their facility so attractive that guys would want to stay there every day if you come in let's say it's a practice day you'll get a text the night before and they'll say okay your table time is it was just say eight thirty in the morning so you go to your table and they have a physical therapist there they have a massage therapist there and they say what hurts wouldn't you love that Meena I I'd love table time how do I get how do I sign up in my own home and so you get twenty minutes thirty minutes they work on whatever's bothering you whatever hurts and then you go into the weight room for about a half an hour then you go onto the court for individual one on one work can last up to forty five minutes so you've already spent two hours at the facility you and you haven't even started practice yet so that is a little different than other places so the nets debuted this very distinct culture right there really rebuilding because ravage the roster was when does it start to work obviously really wasn't working that first year the you know the Andre Jordan told me Oh yeah you know I remember going in there and thinking wow these I play hard I mean we're GONNA kill them they're gonNA play hard and you know so the second year it got a little better and I think really it was last year they started to see some of the it's Joe Harris led the league in three point shooting percentage last year and all of a sudden all this work and this culture seemed to kick in a little bit they won forty two games way ahead of schedule I don't think Shaun Kenny expected to make the playoffs within three years but that's what happens Brooklyn which is a playoff spot they had not made the playoffs in eight of the last eleven years you know Kenny Atkinson's reputation has off the charts in his time there because even players who leave like jared Dudley Demari Carol tell everybody yeah he works hard but man is he all about you and then the same thing has and was Sean marks they they put the players I and in this day and age is there anything more than an NBA player wants to hear then we're GonNa put you first what do you need so the nets establish their own culture and their teams increasingly competitive at the same time what was going on with Kyri Katie and De'andre so Jordan and durant and Kyrie we're all on the two thousand sixteen Olympic team in Rio they were on a boat a cruise liner vote was quite elegant an open pool asana several dining rooms a cigar bar because every NBA player needs that twenty four hour room service beds that especially made for seven foot basketball players K. D. in Jordan we're already really really super tight in fact I think right before the Olympics they went and got tattoos together Vegas to prepare for the Rio Games now durant had great respect for Kyrie's game but he didn't know him that well so they get to real remember coverage just hit that big shot to beat the golden state WARRIORS PUTS IT UP precooked Cleveland is and Kyrie was tired along year he made the big shot so he wasn't really invested the way durant wanted to be and he said something to him he challenge him and you know Durant told me the other day that the way kyrie responded which was favourably and positively said Yep you're right I gotta give you more was at the beginning of their bond so one of their last night's real lincoln drinks at one of the many bars and lounges on that ship and Kyrie said you know we should do this for real Indiana Georgia's civil what do you mean he said we should all play together so the groundwork for these three players playing together is laid on this vote outside Rio three years ago what happens is summer how do they finally come together well that's a good question they say that they all go on a conference call and say hey let's do this then with Katie and Dj was you know four sixteen in the morning us just talking about our futures and later on that day we just decided hey we're just going to break this like we're doing this another that's what they have to say because tampering would be at work I do believe member of the very famous view I think you and I talked about together on around the horn talking in the tunnel after the All Star game in Cairo whispering to each other and the tunnel yeah being lip read by some of the op the breeders in the world I bet that's what they were talking about this there's no doubt my mind they were texting all the time these guys text a lot they weren't touch with one another I'm sure it was in the works for a while I don't know if we'll ever know that for sure just because of how tampering works in the league
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on The Jump
"Think also raised with kyri that first season i think it's really important got some nice young pieces but it seems to me attraction was the culture that brooklyn has established right hardworking over achieving achieving so i think that first year he could really solidify his leadership just by helping kenny atkinson in shomar continue that that type of culture of a hardworking basketball first franchise i think their depth is one of the great one of the great attributes even yesterday getting wilson chandler got four on on a minimum contract agreement with a hall of famer over there that luke fourteen if if quite or kyri stays healthy the entire season i think that may be bumped into words fifty that hasn't happened that austin but i think they're a championship team this year but they're welcome to prove me wrong i'm kind of right there i think philadelphia milwaukee toronto of choir returns and then you have a nice collection of teams would include boston indiana obviously there might be a mystery guest i'm getting somebody i want it but on toronto without collide i would still be in that sort of that second tier of teams but yeah mid forty something that right i mean i think the two plays a sick outs karekin really a help is is jared allen right lane in the pick and roll circus livered who really is a really talented young player i've been getting his confidence and including him in the developments gonna be really key that absolutely i'm excited to see them together we gotta take a quick break but when we come back one of the stars of the eastern the conference finals has made is leading indiana just how did the pacers land malcolm brogdon brian has fascinating behind the scenes story or not gonna wanna miss here's what the jump recommends for today is well he could head over to dot com or they asked me tim's on times article and maybe the next totally botched free agency diminish this will not be reading that article just all i'm gonna say rooted now come back and be with us in just a couple of minutes there's a flag laws bars sportscenter surplus easter with kevin the guy did elves dunking on e s p n andy yes you should have had that later tonight seven o'clock eastern fans to another jumped free agency special become co why haven't decided yet people still weren't going to be here and who knows maybe he is decided by then what will we do have a little pre fourth of july is there was a bomb like a burglar right free agent to agree to a deal with the pacers leak sources tell any chicken with the pacers where guys high profile player leaves their team after their rookie contract also aware that high profile restricted free agent which signed with the indiana pacers and then they're gonna dig that just hasn't happened that much before indeed what happened with malcolm brogdon the former rookie of the year to to leave the team with the league's best record to joined the pacers on a four year deal eighty five million dollars so that that's that's nice but this is very unconventional 'cause we expected a team to to sign into an offer sheet and instead what happened right well and molly knows this because you know he's his executive when when the stuff is going on when you when you were signing restricted free agent a lot of times you'll give they toxic offer sheet of poison pills a huge exploding salary front end bonuses options you wanna do everything you possibly can to incentivize a team from matching it in teams have gotten creative and creative over the years the brooklyn nets have given out several very toxic offer sheets in the last few years the danger of doing that is then you have that contract that's exactly that's exactly right but there's ways to do it i won't give those details here so in this case her simon who is old school well respected owner of the pacers called up the bucks ownership and said we would like the sign your fridge and malcolm brogdon we do not wanna give a toxic offer sheet i don't believe in doing that to a partner of mine can we work out a deal now this is obviously.
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin
"It's down upset with, you know him saying, I if you'll have you'll be forever, and then turn around and say, ask me, Joe, I one so. And of course there early exit he's getting the lion's share of the plane for that. So I'm sure if you're Danny aines, you're frustrated because you want to say to your fan base, but we, you, you might be mad at him, but we need him. He's a you know, transcendent talent, and you guys aren't helping our case, any by, but, you know, being so critical of this guy, of course, he doesn't like it here. With people are, you know, dumping on them. So he's a very complex guy, so talented, I've been told many times. He's an east coast guy. So to me, it was always Boston, New York Brooklyn, good for Sean marks. And for Kenny Atkinson, for the in the short amount of time for turning that into a destination, I can tell you, I've toured almost all the filth oscilloscopes in, in the NBA and Brooklyn is by far, the finest, so they have they have everything in place. But I don't know. I just don't know. I. Yeah. I, I don't know if anyone knows. Yeah. I the Kyrie's interested in that does not surprise me. Not when I o not one. Yeah. It's going to be it's going to be so wild because there's so many different potential permutations of how this all Kitin boy that ran through. How does that affect with kyri does young, it does? Maybe it doesn't at all we don't know. You don't really know. And you know hot Kevin Durant injury affect his future, visit making more likely to stay does it make it more likely to go. What if Golden State wins, Golden State loses? You know, there's so many different things you can look into here. So I mean but kyri to the to the nets that's not a landed in the slightest. And I think we've all in certainly won't just more plug in than anybody. I think we've all heard this, you know, I think for a while, and we've all felt as though it was Brooklyn, New York, and, and maybe Boston still had a chance to be in the mix. But that just that every passing day that teams feels less and less likely to me, there's years, the great Jackie MacMullan joining us here to talk. NBA on the Sudan show on ESPN LA. Jackie you're the best. Thank you so much. It's my pleasure. I think you and I are on around the horn together next week which I will enjoy, because that hasn't happened yet I know. That's fantastic. I'm looking forward to me to. All right. I'll see you then. Jackie macmullan. She's the best where this year on the sit down a show on ESPN LA I coming up next, Freddie night, continue dancing to swap event that no, actually you didn't. Let me ask Jackie one question. Every time I try told me shut up off, Mike. Yeah. That's exactly what happened. Whenever man, sorry, dude, she didn't wanna talk to you, though. She didn't. I'm a Lakers fan. Yes. You know what that was like he should've been mocks this easy. She did. She did say that off air. Yes, he did say he didn't. You know he couldn't list. I told her foul go, I told her the truth off air. I said, I dish ind wasn't my best work lost out, fair and square. Couldn't be my vanderbeek took you out delivery. Man, I couldn't deliver that. I don't want your laugh you ain't your dad's Jones. I've heard that plenty. Here that no more God coming up next. Actually, there's some really funny stories about Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers that I want to get to an okay great. And then Andre Snell ings, one of our basketball gurus is gonna stop by six thirty two. So we'll chat with him sit down show back and four minutes..
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on Izzy and Spain
"He's been able to blossom here in Brooklyn. So it really the job that Kenny Atkinson has done some development one game point those end in hand with what's on Martha's done from general manager and finding that talent I know as well as anyone that the bulls will find a way to give away talent that somebody else will turn into gold. That's just the way it always works span. Infants. Talking to Michael Grady of the. Yes network on the nets. You know, one of the things about this team is, yeah, they are motley Crue of players that may be put them together on a piece of paper. You're not that impressed. But they've had a ton of fun this year they've been fun to watch. And they've had fun with each other. As you've covered them, you have any stories or anecdotes from that. And how that may have helped them over achieve. They really have this family like approach at a really started during their twenty one season any Atkinson's first year, I came aboard not long after that. And it was a really bad twenty one seasons. But at the end of the year, they showed a video of the guys off the court in connection that they had team meetings players wives and their get togethers at the end of this at the end of a twenty win season. They gathered everybody and shows this this, basically, a slide show of all these great moments not necessarily on the court, but off the court showing how tight myth this group was. And that's the foundation that Sean barks one we compete for each other. We love each other. We battled for each other all these types of things, and we are a true team. The essence of the word and this is during a tweet after eight twenty win season and they build on that the next year. And even though they only won twenty games a year ago. They let the league and I think gains decided by about three points or less. They were very much in every game that they. They competed him very three blow out and then this season they figured out a way to get over the hump. Find a way to win those close games. They had an eight game losing streak, and then found a way to turn it around and had a seven game winning streak immediately after that. And that's when playoff talk really started to happen with this with this basketball team. So they have fun. They do a lot of dancing. Their benches entertaining any bench on the in the league. And it doesn't matter who's on the bench when the is low Russell checks out. He's leading the dancing on the bench. When he's when he's when he's out there. So it's it's a very fun group to cover and the cub diary that they have is genuine which is another interesting aspect of the series. The Sixers clearly have more talent. But if they're butting heads because you know, Jimmy Butler is on the same page that beat or Simmons isn't on the same base pay just Harris. So there there may be a little bit of infighting if things aren't going well, the chemistry for the nets is much stronger. Even though they don't have as much talent that helped him in game one, but Philly really not. Together in game two and played volleyball in it worked really curious to see how the Mets responded Sarah Spain talking to Michael Grady of the. Yes. Network covering the nets. You know, the Knicks, of course, always New York's team, and they get a ton of publicity, even when they don't deserve it and haven't been relevant for years are the nets actually endanger of taking away some of their shine getting some of the fans in New York to to move over to their side, or is or is it is there a dividing line? That will never be crossed. Even even when Knicks fans can't get no satisfaction for thirty years. I think the Mets sip they're able to add even more talent or a superstar in this off season..
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"The ngelo Russell continues. His all star play over the weekend red against the bucks and the Pacers. As he loaded up twenty five points, ten dimes in Milwaukee on Saturday twenty six and six against the Pacers yesterday, both ending up with winds for Brooklyn, which helps wrap up a spot in the Eastern Conference now matter seating, obviously to find out who the nets play the first round and know Kenny Atkinson, as has the Angela Russell submitting themselves, as you know, stars, you know. A little unexpected for Russell because we kinda wrote him off mentally because just what transpired early and coaches, it takes a little longer you need to see tangible results before coaches, you can actually say this guy's on the path to start a, but Keti AC and into that at that this year Keti Atkinson is legit star in the coaching ranks d I think you're right BT and Dangelo Russell one of those kids because out in LA, he all the that wasn't a ton of trouble. It was stupid things. It was social media nonsense. That kinda got a win awry enforced his exit from the Lakers. But some of that is leadership, you know, whether it's in the locker room leadership, or you know, coaching leadership that just didn't nurture a young kid who was nineteen at the time. Well, enough kind of force them to grow up. And now, we're seeing him reach his full potential, which is awesome. If your nets fan. No doubt. No doubt of Brooklyn's attained. They've got money. I'm getting some players here. They steal somebody from the Knicks of the clippers conceivably they could. But hats off Kenny Atkinson did a great job and the ngelo Russell as well next hour to get into what would it actually mean? Zion. Who's truly wrapped up in this in this college hoops scandal. Do some basketball next hour, obviously get back to the game tonight and Paul Pierce with a strong take as he compared himself quite favorably. And without hesitation to the great twain weights. We'll get to that as well. But right now is time for football. The forties us to hit. Let's go..
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on The Hoop Collective
"We just stop turns around if he were to sign with the Knicks next year. Let's say they don't get unless they get the fourth pick. Let's say they get Cam radish. Okay. Good player. Are he Cam Cam reddish? Dennis Smith junior. They going to be competing for championship. Oh, hold on. Because I'm sitting coury with them. So. So I mean, our he kyri in Cam reddish capable of compete in these is. Yes. That's the thing. They have to fill that other max slot. Well, why Why can't he? he? I would very Jared Allen and an organization Joe hairs they now to make that happen. They would have to offload Allan crab and the nets were offering their draft pick. And they tried to get my try that. Allan crab was on offer for a first round pick. They couldn't get a taker. But okay, maybe they find a taker next summer, you know, they would have to renounce the ngelo Russell. But if you're swapping out, I'm just saying to my am I off base here talking about it deserves to be mentioned. And obviously the clippers are looking as well. But I mean, he's I'll be good questions to ask. Hey D. But boy, he's not much of a mood to talk to that untrustworthy media. I will tell you this. And you got have you guys been to Brooklyn's facility practice facility? It's spectacular. I've not seen it. It's it is the nicest one in the league. And it's not even close the facilies though. It's not in Manhattan. It's it's in Brooklyn. Yeah. But you know, what go to the rooftop Brian? In fact, they shouldn't after this podcast if you're listening guys Kenny Atkinson and everybody else invite Brian Windhorst down for tour this place on the roof. They have a roof deck with three hundred sixty degree views of the New York skyline. The statue of liberty. They have it's they have a dining room in his private chef for their players. They have state of the art rehabilitative facilities cold tubs hot tubs. All that sort of thing. The court is picked I'm telling you. It's it's there's nothing nicer I've seen almost all of them. Maybe not all of them. But it's far and away the nicest facility seen in the NBA. It's not even close. Why was windy get invited for two and I don't want to tour because he said he hasn't been there. I'm just assuming you've been there. Well, I think I have not been there, and I'm offended. I wanted to or I pretty much go down there and get one. And I'm sure it could be arranged. I think pretty much be arraigned not every team. But most teams now have spectacular facilities. They don't have three sixteen view of the New York with with beautiful outdoor couches. And I will say this compared to the Knicks. You gotta live in right? He got you can live in the city, but all your business with the Knicks happens in Westchester. Right. So and you've been to that. Right. Yes. That one is that one does not equal the facilities. Elsewhere. But hey, the Mavericks the maverick share a building with the brewery. That's pretty good recruiting patch. But I'm easy. Think about it. The like. Like the Celtics have a brand new facility. The raptors have a brand new Priscilla. The Sixers have a brand new facility. The nets have a brand new facility. The wizards have a brand new facility. The seventy. The buck seventy facility, I'm just telling you, you got to go see it to to understand what I'm saying. It's just a cut above. It's it's incredible. It really is. Did you guys see what the Knicks did with Kevin Durant over the weekend? I'm talking about ticket thing the post so. Yeah. So. Season. Ticket renewals. Do here pretty soon. And when when you go to I guess, you know, there's a port others web portal. For season ticket renewals that season ticket holders. Go when you sign in this..
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on The Full 48
"People. So you mentioned development in relation to Kenny Atkinson, the head coach, and yes, Kenny was the guy who got a lot of people's radar years ago when he was Jeremy Lin's to coach with the Knicks and Jeremy was shouting him out almost every night during that Lin sanity run. And he goes to Atlanta works under buttonholes her and again like guys like tomorrow, Carol who's one of your teammates. Now like there were guys who improved their so Kenny got this reputation that I think people wonder when you become the head coach. What does that mean? What does it mean to be a player development guy who who was kind of a specialist as an assistant in? Yeah. You become a head coach what we've seen here. The last year. This is what I think is most impressive about this. A number of you again as we've alluded to earlier, we're kind of cast aside by the franchises. So you've gotten better here. Spencer's gotten better here. Dangelo Russell, I know he comes in as a number two. But still Daniel Russell is a better de ngelo Russell now that he was even his first year with the nets and lower picks like CAIR sliver Jared Allen guys who were low in the first round those are hard. It's hard to ace those picks. And then still you've got to develop them along the way. So everything about this team strikes me as well. Everybody who comes here whether the whether they're staying where they're leaving. They're better off than when they arrive. Yeah. Definitely explained to me as as much as you can about the mechanics of it. What is the player development approach here that made you a better Joe Harris than you were the day that the magic cut you in in a couple of years ago? I think it's just the attention to detail and the self awareness for each specific player. So we all you know, the coaches collectively they kind of sit down. They go through each player almost on a collective basis and talk about where they can help, you know, a Joe Harris improve where where they can help a Damara Carol improve. And then you have a specific coach that works with you. And you know, for me, I'm going through, and I'm working on things that are, you know, things that I'm going to do in the game. I'm not doing things I know anything outside the box. Like, you're not gonna see me doing my individual development and watch me do a bunch of ball handling drills or work. You know in a lot of pick and roll situations. You know, I'm doing things that are situational for me. And I'm looking at players that, you know, probably played in boot and holes or system, for example, when I first came in they give me a lot of clips of of Cal Korver can use like, hey, this is a guy that you should you should watch. See what see see how how does he get open?.
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Radio sixty six. It is your nude our on the fan the final hour of me. And then you get rid of me. And you've got the legendary Jody McDonald taking over at one o'clock, speaking of legends Bob Eusler now giving you updates all Rosenberg is now running the board. He's a sort of a legend, at least in his mind Itami Lugt, our just lewke he's producing the show. It's being of legends. Here's a guy who have not talked to in a while. The last time we talked. I was complaining about Kenny Atkinson to him a lot has changed since then. And that of course is Frank is Sola now of the athletic frac-. How have you been pretty good? How you doing? I'm good now. You would admit that my criticisms of Kenny Atkinson were fair and actually pretty accurate, right? I don't I don't remember what you criticism was. I know it was completely misguided. The guy does a very good job. You know developing players. I don't think they roster is that what's their record right now is a twenty seven and twenty seven and twenty three four games over nineteen in five in their last twenty four games. That's pretty good. They lose charissa Vert who looked like he was their best player. And then they keep winning. Then they lose spent you didn't he last night? He doesn't play in and a happy. Oh. North Carolina to eighty Pinson. Anthony played who played very well. And yeah, they were down early. I I think you could tell you know, that there is a plan there, and they do have a certain way that they play each night. They seem to have a different guy do something to meet their signature game. This season is the Houston game. And I thought it was interesting that was the night where the answer the Russell didn't really have any. Well, it did what he. Yes. While the nets for making this freakish kind of comeback every time they showed danza Russell on the bed. She was sharing cheerleader. I thought that was like a pretty good size. You could tell that. I think the their group is kind of all on the same page, which is which is a good thing. Which is kind of part of playing hard all the time, which is also part of it. I agree with you about the Angelo. Because that wasn't the first time or Kenny decided to not play him late in the game down the stretch. And a look thing Russell has done is he hasn't moped and on some of the occasions Russell actually had been playing well and he wouldn't play him down the stretch. Of games. And he's always appeared to have a pretty good attitude about it. Now, obviously doesn't have to worry about that. His didn't what he's going to be out now for a month, maybe more, but my criticism of Kenny was this. It was that Rodion corrodes gave this team is spark and any refused to play him this hot streak began when Kenny Atkinson finally inserted Rhody not only into the rotation but into the starting lineup. So I wasn't wrong about that. I was right about that. Right. Yeah. But we don't know what what goes on in practice. And what things maybe he was doing? I'll tell you what I saw on the floor on the floor. He gave them gave them a spark. And I think, you know, he'd probably waited until he thought the the moment was right? That's a good pick. That's the fortieth pickup. Great. Great. He's he's got a chance to be a pretty good. But I think they were hiding where he wasn't playing that. But not correct. I think because they thought he was coming to the NBA. So they figured why play this guy. So they kind of buried over there. And that's why it was such a brilliant job that Sean marks was still able to identify him as a guy that was worth taking despite not playing. It's interesting. Right. So he's from Lafayette. Yup. And then he got the Knicks have Lafayette player who hasn't played this year. And then even have the kid that place for the Spurs David pretends, he's lucky because pretty good for. The three. Yeah. One guys in Los star the other two look like they're pretty solid ball players in the net player looks like he's got a chance to be really good be not at all star. But he's got a chance. He's still so young. He's only twenty years old now do me a favor. Right. I am giddy. I am through the moon about this basketball team even with Dinwiddie being out for three to six weeks. It's like you said guys have stepped up. Now, the schedule is going to get tough Ryan to stand that what should be my reasonable expectations. I mean what expectations right now? Gave my son. I was talking to people with the nets. Yeah. I mean, I think all right. So the schedule is pretty rough especially in March. Yup. But you know, can you win? I would think forty is gonna get you in. Oh, yeah. So you know, I would think they're going to win. We're we're still in January. I think they're going to win thirteen more games. They probably get to that number. So they should be a playoff team. And I think for them that's really important because you know, they they do have the cap space number one. They do have their own first round pick. And if they make the playoffs I say for argument's sake, an eighth seed that's still not a terrible pick. It's certainly not a lottery, you know? So, but I think they're kind of program where they are right now. I think making the playoffs is important. And then they'll, you know, they'll roll the dice and free agency and see if they can convince you know, some player to come here. Whether that's at the high end, excuse me, Kevin Durant or maybe somebody like Tobias Harris somebody along those lines. So to me that they're definitely building towards something. I don't think that question. It's been fun. So far, it's been a lot of fun on the Knicks side of things most knick fans, I talked to just wanna lose right? They just wanna tank well they've been doing they've been doing that for. Basically fifteen. They're getting their wish it has happened. A lot this year more specifically, though because of the fact that Zayn Williamson is sitting there is has been hurt all year with all that set. Right. How important a you? And maybe it doesn't matter was David physical. Basically, I think admitting last night I didn't want to win the game because any Kanter abuses. The nets the Knicks were getting assaulted on the glass by Davis last night was a perfect night to just insert and his canter to stop that bleeding and could talk all day, and he's right about his role on this team in the future. He doesn't have one. I totally get that. But last night by not inserting Kanter, you're begging you are asking to lose the game. You're putting your team in no position to win. When in his canter doesn't into that game last night, you well it from the standpoint, it does don't sit here and tell me that you build a culture. I mean, you know, listen to stuff coming out of that locker. And then he says after the game well the playing Hardaway because he's making eighteen. Million dollars a year. Tim Hardaway supposed to take that. So I get it you or your plan right now is to lose and easy to say her Japan. Gumby yesterday say every time a team loses. Now, they say, well, this is all part of our plan. So they're losing. But don't tell me, you're building a culture. How can you see what's going on around there and say that you're creating some type of positive culture? I don't buy that you know, every game now. And Kanter like the coach has every right to say that a player is not gonna play. But when it comes down to the communication, or the lack of communication has it reflect well on physical is it reflect. Well, when did he get the same issue in Memphis with the European guy? And I would say probably the same issue with cancer. No Akina members on, you know, people might say, well, who cares? Well, but this is this kind of has been an issue and the bottom line is they are and thirty seven, and you just automatically think that we'll get this player that can display everything will be great. He'll become a great coach. All right. Maybe that will be the case. I don't know how you could just assume that to assume that it won't work out. Absurd is thinking that it will work out. It's it's still the great unknown. And I think, you know, for Dale who if you want everyone he wants. You know, he he talks a lot too. He's a lot. Like kanter. He kinda interesting sometimes they come back to bite him because the season playing time it's going to be based on merit. The last night he came out and typical playing time. It's based on the fact that Tim Hardaway makes eighteen million dollars, right? Right. Right. Yeah. So you can't you can't have it both ways. And Kanter I would have thought played Kanter up until personal like twenty minutes, and I play him up until the trade deadline if every seven and then if you don't trade him just by him out, you clearly don't want him anymore. I mean, there's plenty of time tank. And yes, you know, it's really about really finishing with one of the bottom. Three record you'll necessarily have to have the worst record about tweeted with three teams. So I don't know I don't necessarily agree with what they're doing. And the other thing is I understand that in today's NBA, and his canter is a very tough it. All right. He can't defend the pick and roll. He can't defend on switches. He slow defensively. I get all of that. But how many times have we seen a team play a center that eventually when teams go small you take off the court, but you play him early in a game. You play him in the first half you play in the third quarter. And then yeah game is close in the fourth quarter guy can't see the floor. I've seen that with Jared Allen this year, and he's had a pretty good year to not even let him. Sniff, playing time just doesn't make a lot of sense. And you're right about the communication. What would concern me is that he had this issue? Like, you mentioned in Memphis shouldn't he realize that even if you're going to make this decision with cancer just tell the guy just say, I'm not playing you is there a secret motivation into not telling him like are they trying to take him off a Nuff. So where a buyout is easier. Is that what's going on here? It's funny too. Because if you go back to last season. And Kanter who loves to make himself, the center of attention, agree and know last year when he did that whole thing with LeBron he got stationed all the knick fans. This is great. We finally have some of those going to stand up to LeBron. And then, of course, the minute July rolled around. He's out there, you know, begging, LeBron come join the Knicks. And then he thinks that he's going to be the guy that's gonna recruit Kevin Durant. If the Knicks without even taking a step back to thank guess what? It's Kevin Durant. Where it come here. They would need your money in order for that to happen. So you're not going to be on the team. So Kanter kinda buys into this thing. I love New York, and I'm going to be the mascot now. He's starting to realize that all this kind of side stuff that he was doing isn't necessarily going to help them with the team. And I think that when they were in London, and he was making the rounds on all CNN and everywhere else talk about a situation with Turkey. Something tells me probably the league didn't like that. I can't imagine that the Knicks liked it. Isn't it interesting that ever since they've come back? That's only been a couple of games. He essentially has play got mop up duty. In one game, and it didn't play any other too. So that's I think that kind of factors into it as well. You know, remember something else to the only kind of thing with zingers that we know about was when he came out and said that well prazengas isn't even running yet. And then within like fifteen minutes, I'm saying that present sent out that photo of him sprinting on a track which clearly was in response to the coach. So I think I think they have been still, you know, the one thing about New York. And so that the media is top. It's just a lot of here. So we I say something everything kind of. Yes, does it get blown out of proportion? But when you say things, you you're going to be held to it. And like, you know, just throwing it out there that presenting is not even running. You could tell the presenters was upset about that. Yeah. Situation here where he's not even talk communicating with cancer. It doesn't look good. And Kanter keeps making them look worse. Because can't no problem coming out and telling you. Yeah. He's gonna open his mouth. Now. Look, I've said this to you before I don't think you like the Knicks. That's just an impression. I get you say, I'm just me. Well, I think it's been great that they've had how many how many seasons? Twenty years. Say that downing. How many seasons have had in the last twenty years now one four? Have you did make the playoffs? Season had three. One very good season two good seasons. That's three of the last eighteen. What what would you like me to celebrate? That is that's like a maximum the franchise, frankly, Frank I'm actually about to give you credit for something and something we argued about. So just hang with me. I'm actually going to give you some love. We argued a few years ago about Phil early on early on your criticizing film. And I said come on Frankie gotta give him time. He just took over the team is clearly taking all the stuff that we're hearing now, and I disagreed with the at the time because you were hammering the guy, and I said just give it time. I think that the media in this town is tough. But I think they're very easy with Nick management early on in a tank season. There was no criticism of Phil Jackson. You're basically the only guy ripping him. And guess what you turned out to be spot on. You're right. You're right. He's still was incompetent at this job even want to do it..
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"York City Steve Somers here, and you there. Peter hoffman. Brian Ross gonna day on the other side. One eight seven seven three three seven six six six four final one hour. Schmos ESPN is right up until Chris Moore. He's coming your way at ten on your fan. New York City will spend a few minutes with Michael Kuhn, hob and Michael. I hope I got the name, right. Usually, it's Michael I of trouble with, but I hope I got your last name. Okay. I you got no call for me. Very good, and you're with the athletic, and that's also very important match it as well. What is going on? Well, first of all before we get to the knickerbockers and a little bit with the NBA, the Brooklyn nets, certainly after their eight and eighteen beginning have turned things around and have electrified their fan base. Michael. I mean, how do you explain? It's it's been really fun to watch. It's been almost a conflict of so many good events on their Kenny Atkinson put in a program with that team in his first year three years ago. Setting out of style that he wanted the team to play with. And now they've added talent throughout the years. And now you have guys like Jared, Allen, Spencer, Dinwiddie Dangelo Russell, and they're all playing really well, even without careful Burton. It's like almost magical theater for them. Despite losing eight games in a row at one point. And it's just the other playoff team. Now, this is finally a good basketball team in New York, and they didn't lose we did here today about Dinwiddie. He's gonna be out four to six weeks torn, ligaments and the thumb, However, I mean the team what is it now eighteen out of twenty three and Di Angelo Russell. I mean who does he think he is Michael? Yeah. They bought a bought a lottery pick, basically when they traded for him from the Lakers, and he really had some tough times in L A. Obviously some of it off the court Stoffel is documented pretty well. And he started a little bit on the court to I think he's be afraid of the summer. It wasn't really sure look at a player he'd be hidden now, he's almost all star level. He's becoming a great score off the pick and roll. And this is a lottery talent that was taking number two a few years ago blossoming in a great system that just fits perfectly would I be laughed at by by people like yourself who really choose dirty working every day doing the work that you have to do with the NBA with all the teams would I be laughed at if I would say Atkinson coach of the year. I look I don't think. So I think he's a great candidate for everything that they'd have to go through this year for the program that he built in Brooklyn for developing the talent that they have. I think he's definitely a contender. I I don't see why anyone would laugh and the front office seemingly doing the right thing. They're holding onto their draft choices, especially those draft choices that are number one. Yeah. That's new for the nets, right? Having their own first round pick. I think it was interesting as you know, the inflection point for the organization almost came this summer they finally had their first round pick. I don't know if they are necessarily protected even the bottom of the playoff team, but they decided to try to win this year win as many games they could maximize their results not tank, and they decided to do the same thing with Wolfert went out. So those two decisions allowed really set that the I guess the way for the franchise, and it's the lead to this record to them being a also a playoff came out to Sean marks deserves credit for making those decisions above anything else. Would I be showing disrespect in a very cynical way? And also as knickebocker fan if I were to say, well, it's January and the very very good teams. Kind of maybe put things on cruise control until ceding becomes an issue or until we get to the postseason when the. Games, really matter. Does that take something away from the eighteen out of twenty three for the Brooklyn nets? Yeah. I think that takes a lot of way to be called a good team. You have to win the game. Then you have to make it to the postseason. Right. That happens in December that happens in January and February the nets are doing that right now they eat a lot of good teams over the strategy. I think what I think they're seventeen and five over the last twenty two games this team, and they're not doing it during the dog days the basketball season, they're playing competitive teams. I think it's more of a mid that teams. Take large swats at the season off Brooklyn is doing it. And they're doing it in a for real type of way, and they do deserve all the credit that they can get even a little bit on the cynical side are the neck now, if you're a knickebocker fan, it's an entirely different story. However, the silver lining is. And you tell me if this formula is sure fire. Okay. Nobody is saying there tanking. I mean, listen, you know, these the players out there on the floor. They're trying very hard. They may not be very good. They may remind you more of a D league team on occasion more than on occasion. But nonetheless, they're losing a lot of games. So the knickebocker fan looking for the silver lining is saying, okay. Maybe the number one pick in the lottery, and then maybe you get Kevin Durant to come to New York. And then you do Kyrie Irving. And then you get one of those players from Duke, certainly Zion. Williamson is on the mind of a lot of knickebocker fans to but does this kind of formula guaranteed that the knickerbockers more sooner than later, Michael will turn things around. No, I don't think it guarantees anything. There's a lot of risk to the path of the extra taking sure I if you get Williamson and Kevin Durant. Kristaps Porzingis resigned and comes back, that's basically Knicks fan fiction. Right. That's how they hope everything goes down. But this is the first year the new MBA lottery reform, and if you have the worst record in the league, you have a fourteen percent chance of getting number one pick. And even you know, that means you have an eighty six percent chance of not getting the and potentially Williamson. Kevin Durant isn't guaranteed, and he could definitely be a situation where you know, they get the third sports pick. They don't get Durant. They don't get Kyrie Irving and next season twenty nineteen twenty twenty. They get a rehabbing Kristaps Porzingis, and they roll over the roster, and then how much better are you next year and this year? That's that's the problem with going down this type of path you have to really commit to it and be comfortable with all the different possible outcomes. What is going to be with the candor? He wants to be traded. He made that announcement last night. The bottom line is he's not playing he wants to play as a double double waiting to happen. But phys stale doesn't put him in the lineup. And last night didn't play him at all. What's going to happen with him? I think I can safely say that it looks like it's heading for a break up of some sort. I mean, I don't know how tenable it is to have cancer on the roster. You know, nightly after every game explaining how much he wants to essentially he had it to a new team if he's not playing or starting. I don't think that would work for a long period of time. Taken calls on cancer. It's hard to find a trade for him. Because he does make so much eighteen point six million dollars. So you know, it'll last, but I can't say it lasted much longer. I it's either by trade or by by out there has to be a resolution to it. I don't think it works for either side for this doing or into the middle of February and Alonzo trio with the social media with the with the Twitter now he's responding to a fan. And I'm sure you'd be the first to advise him, Michael if you were in that kind of a situation to ignore whatever it is that you're hearing or and or reading from with the Twitter accounts from everybody, and anything and everything that is social media. I would imagine Michael you would advise Mr. Trie or ignore. What fans may have to say about you. My first advice for anyone off stay off Twitter. If you can I fail at that to go off, and it seems like he did last night too. And look, I get it you get heated, and the you know after a game after tough loss. But I think you have to if you're a professional athletes, you have to kind of work under the assumption that anything you tweet, even if it's an DM may eventually go public, and that's what happened with rare and it worked out poorly. Right. But that's the you hope that's a learning opportunity. And he's not sliding into any other DMZ late at night trying to heckle fan tour. After a lot. Do you? Do you get the impression that most of what you see on a daily basis with fans responding to the teams that they like an responding to the teams that they don't like do you get the impression Michael that a lot of what is seen and going viral with the social media is way way too negative more. So than positive. Yeah. I think so I mean, I think Twitter is a reflection of us as a society in some way. Right. We love drama. We love story lines. If you can it's easy to be caddy on their I've been guilty of all times too. So. That's that's what Twitter is almost feeds into right? Getting the worst of us at times and to anyone can be guilty of that last night at Madison Square Garden in New York City, we saw hardened go off for sixty one. And when the nets were in Houston and played a overtime. No not long ago. We saw Houston taking seventy seven zero seventy three's. What has happened to the NBA Michael you don't like seventy or sixty three tonight now. No, I want to see what I used to see I want to see a little bit. What do you think? Anybody now recognizes like any kind of play underneath the basket like in the low post God forbid, and nobody plays any defense. Nobody wants to touch anybody outside the art nobody you can't do that. Anyway. And what we saw from harden last night to me. Me was Irene it's like almost like the carnival a like a carnival side show. I mean, he's a wonderful player. I understand that. I mean that Baz that snappy takes back and the quick release and driving to the basket. Nobody can guard the guy, but where where was the team basketball with us, and they almost lost the game with them getting sixty one and then there are seventy three's and hold on. Just a second. The warriors just scored fifty one points in the first quarter. Wait, just a second. Klay. Thompson just hit his first ten can I m three's e talk what has happened to the NBA Michael you have to explain to me. The Naff has won out. And the rockets are an extreme example of that, you know, the map dictates that shot that the ram and threes are the most efficient shots. And so teams are really playing to that the mid range game for the most part is, you know, kind of working its way out of the way there are some people who still dealing with a lot of teams that don't wanna take those shots at all. I James harden is kind of I don't really know how to describe him. He's a singular toward a force in the NBA. And I know that there's a lot of fans who are watching them. And I'm like, you don't seem to like it from night tonight. It's it's it's kind of you know, what your flavor is. And I I love watching the warriors. I think they played beautiful basketball. And James harden it magnificent, but I can see why some people miss the days of battling underneath the basket and Carl Malone, and I came alive, and all that type all those types of guys, but it's it's tough to be opposed oriented offense anymore trade choose for threes. I understand all or or in hardens case fours. Because he loves drawing that foul doesn't a outside the art, Michael. He does it. So well to it that, you know, he's the only guy you're scared of going backwards away from the rim. The NBA's become one dimensional. I'm sure you wanna see a little bit more underneath the basket. Once in a while. Yes. Yeah. Sure from time to time. But I like watching these guys operate, you know, from the perimeter and watching all the ball movement, Craig. Defended down off the pick and roll. I think a lot more fluid at times, it's it's a different type of basketball. I I enjoy watching it. I can't complain about the style of play because you know, I I don't miss the days of the low eighties scores. And those types of games can be rough to watch to now, your you we need Larry Siegfried. We need read our back with a cigar. We have to go back to those some of those days to see here's the thing. Don't tell me that you love watching the mouthpiece. And the shimmy show up. Everybody on the opposing bench by hitting another three and dancing his way down the court. What kind of sportsmanship is that Michael? I looked what kind of sportsmanship is Jordan shrugging after he hits all those threes against the blazers in any of the NBA finals. I it's to me I love watching these guys act and part of it is just performance. Right. And I don't know. Maybe maybe it's me growing up in this latest therapy NBA fan, but I wanna see them be provocative, and I wanna see them. It's wrestling. And in some ways, it's high school types of drama. And that's what I love. That's why the has become so fan-friendly over the years and really made in the sent probably the second biggest sport in North America. And you'll love the system you love where the where the mouthpiece and their shimmy with the warriors. How they go about. I they get Kevin Durant. Now, they have DeMarcus cousins the rich get richer the poor have children. This is not the way the NBA should be for competitive balance. Michael. I look I think that's delving into some kind of capitalist..
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Owe Kenny Atkinson an apology now Evan you've got to apologize to him? There's one thing of mackerel apologize about one of my big criticisms of them, if you paid attention to how many people did because I spent a lot of my time ripping Kenny on the podcast that we would do the Evan Roberts podcast. If you wanna listen back to make fun of me. Go ahead. But my first critique on him was the burying of Kurds that he would not give corrodes minutes and he needed to. Well, do you know when the win streak started? When Kenny Atkinson, not only gave him minutes, but inserted him into the starting lineup. That was one of the huge things that changed and really led to this turnaround. Even though had a night like last night. He only played eleven minutes. Candies called an early timeout a minute and a half in and chew them out for falling asleep on defense. He's a part of this team, and that's been one of the huge differences. But one thing I've noticed over the last month, which is awesome. And I give all the credit the world some of these places. He's drawing up at a time out, utterly brilliant. The Spencer Dinwiddie four point play came right out of a time out. So you always love to see that from a head coach when you see those specific plays right at a time outs and the fight this. This team has then never out of a game. It's incredible. So right now Kenny Atkinson went from eight and eighteen I'm not sure he's the answer. Because I never wanted him fired. I just said I'm not sure he's the long-term answer as head coach. And right now today at this moment in time he is amongst the top candidates for coach of the freakin year. But a lot has changed since December seventh they were eight and eighteen they are sixteen and five cents. And a lot of those winds are against good basketball teams, the Toronto Raptors around the list. The Boston Celtics are on the list, the Houston Rockets around the list the Lakers with LeBron are on the list. You've made the list we're coming right back. Taming the briar patch mowing the lawn or trimming, yeti, whatever you call it. It's about time. We talked about manscaping guys. You man scape? Right. You know, keeping things trimmed and fresh below the waist nine out of ten women of all ages prefer their guy manscaping..
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on The Woj Pod
"In the standings here. Brooklyn's fascinating too. Because you know, there are team that's sitting in seven they're banking on preserving cap space for this summer. We all know that. But they've got a lot of expiring contracts when you look at Kenneth freed Jared Dudley, the Mark Carroll at Davis players like that in his irt deal out there that showing Marx would be willing to do that helps improve the product now, but you're losing cap space next summer. So I think there's a there's a lot of different teams like that. I think teams are kind of still in that feel out process. But we'll learn a lot more next couple of weeks and Brooklyn if they wanna look at it this way, their biggest trade deadline acquisition may be getting Carris Laverne back, and he was playing at such a high level when he got injured and the initial thought was he's offer for the season. And Brooklyn will just you know, they'll send up in the lottery and chase, you know, high draft pick and they went on that losing streak. And then they the way that group pulled itself back together Keniakin Sohn. Kind of rain that group in the angel- Russell's playing the best basketball of his career over the last month, just fishing and really turning into a true playmakers down on mistakes and you're seeing him, and then you know, go up and down their roster. And all of a sudden, like, they're legitimate platinum. Nobody wants to play them night in night out. They play together they play hard and they bought themselves some time like they don't have to rush Liberte back. They stabilized and tell you what Kenny Atkinson is to me coach of the year candidate in the league. That's so great to hear KENNY'S a a great friend. He's done a fantastic job in Brooklyn. As has Sean marks. I think you hit it on the head, and I would add this Brooklyn has two first round picks in this draft. Because of the Kenneth retrieve they did they have you know, Denver from pick this twenty nineteen draft. It's still relatively early, you know in the draft process, but in general twenty nineteen draft is down relative to the. Most recent drafts we've had so when you have a team like Brooklyn with, you know, late first round pick they still have their own pick. And they had the expiring contracts. Bobby late out. They could absolutely be player that could maybe looked to add to their team in a way that helps them kind of moving forward. And that's why you would probably wanna find a value contract for Brooklyn. If they're going to move a pick probably multiple years that also preserves their cap space. So they can you know, be be a player as well. In the future. This has just been a terrific job. It's been a terrific story. And I think they're like thirteen and four or something like that and their last couple of games. So this has been a really fun to watch. Today's episode of the woods pot is brought to you by Robin Hood, Robin Hood is an investing apple that you buy and sell stocks ETF s options and cryptos all commission free. The strive to make financial services work for everyone. Not just the wealthy. It's a non intimidating way for stock market newcomers to invest for the first time and do it with confidence..
"kenny atkinson" Discussed on The Woj Pod
"We're we're fighting for the playoffs. We're what a game out or something like that game. Half out pretty amazing from where you were when Kerris went down and think I mean, you guys are playing great with them. He was breaking out. And then you went out, and then all of a sudden you go on and then you guys pick yourselves right back up again in your right back in the playoff chase with and it is within sight of him. He's going to come back this year. And it's not crazy to think about the nets in the playoffs. Even with the injury to him. Yeah. So you know, that this is kind of like, the the mindset know the best player we're in the middle of the season, this this isn't, you know, July one, oh, they dropped a a bunch of money on the table. And let's go party or something. You know what I mean like this? We're in a Millis season. We're fighting for something very tangible, very within reach that that you know, we all in that locker room believe in and if my folks was on anything else except for helping us to try to win games. Then you know, it would be a disservice to to the group. Are you an easy point guard for Kenny Atkinson to coach are you difficult for him? The week. It is what's the challenge for you? With him your relationship with them. You have ideas about things. Yeah. Yeah. So I would say I think it it all depends on which Spence which Kenny we where we're talking about you know, to your point. I definitely am opinionated. And so is he sometimes obviously, depend upon which minutes, which Kenny were more receptive to each other. Most very good point guards are right. You had. I d I appreciate I believe. So let's go through the league. And look at great point guards. Like, they're not not wallflowers. Yeah. Right. No percent. I think. You know?.