17 Burst results for "Kennedy Chandler"
NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"In the AD less lineups where he's kind of the loan big on the floor. So yeah, I think this is one of those very easy slam dunk decisions for the leakers to bring him in. It's kind of him and Damian Jones now. The sun is up for true 5s and they're not bad. I like Damien Jones too, so I think the Lakers are pretty well covered there. Yeah, exactly. Look, if your Thomas Bryant and you look at the situation unless Anthony Davis starts at the center, it's you versus Damien Jones for the starting job. And that's a much more clear path than saying, hey, I somehow have to supplant Robert Williams or something like that. It's not going to happen. So it makes a lot of sense. 35% from three. So there's some hope there that he can continue to space the floor a little bit. We talked just a minute ago about the bucks and how they like having floor spacing pigs, darvin hams, probably going to be utilizing the same stuff, having just come from Milwaukee. So fit wise makes a lot of sense going back to the Lakers. A little bit unusual. Kennedy Chandler sets a record. As far as the second round pick, getting a four year deal, most money guaranteed. What's going on here? What's incentivized that kind of commitment? Yeah, we're going to see what the actual fully guaranteed numbers are in this because he got 7.1 million. We'll see what that looks like, but that is a lot of money in a four year deal. My guess is again, fourth year will be a team option. So that the grizzlies are protected on this. And then in exchange for that, they probably gave them a bump on the year over year, so probably won't be a straight minimum in years. One and two, probably going to be, if I had to guess, this would be fully guaranteed years one and two, a little bit above the minimum. And then probably just partial guarantee on year three on there. But they're bringing him in behind entire Jones behind John Moran. Got Miranda officially in his extension today. And he's going to come in and he's going to be the developmental point guard.
NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"You're going to have, you're going to be able to play the yeast only 19 card like Celtics and Jason Tatum. And continue to do nowadays, even though he's 24. He's only 24. It's still the joke is that he's only 19, but we'll run with it. But yeah, I like the two. I thought that was a good get. There, but plenty more to come on the Lakers. I saw some, you know, we don't need a young project, but you kind of do. Yeah, it's not bad. Even if max Christie ends up 11th, 12, 13, 14, 15th guy on your roster, that's not a bad thing, right? You have them. A little lower on your eye, probably more 13 to 15. But lower on your offs are probably play some in south bay. Develop them and do your thing that they've done all right. Would that in the past? So by, you know, you need to at least sell young development products for sure. All right, the Memphis cruise from active night for the grizzlies. They had two first round picks. They flipped and moved and traded and did all sorts of stuff, and still finished with two players picked in the first round. But they also picked up a player in the second round and they picked up Danny Green kind of sorta we'll see. But anyway, what they did in the draft, Jake laravia, out of weak force, Ford with range, can do a lot of different things. Think of kinda Kylie Anderson, but obviously clearly much, much younger. I blew this on our live show, but he is younger than I initially thought. There were reports, apparently, somehow, something happened where Google had him. And that was wrong, and they found out just weeks before the draft and had to tell everybody like, no, no, no, no, no. He's not, he's 20. 'cause that matters in the draft. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. The 1999 birth year in his birth year is actually 2001. David roddy, too. The other guy, that's the guy that got with the pick from Philadelphia. Rugged forward scoring kind of guy he's kind of been the guy who's been great in college, but then those guys don't always translate to the pros, but Memphis has had success with those guys in the past, so he kind of like cam. And then they bought a pick from San Antonio with a future second and they got Kennedy Chandler. I'm a point guard. So I think what the grizzlies did was, oh, I'm sorry, and then Vince Williams, a wing out of VCU, one of the four seniors drafted. He went with the 47th pick. I guess his app might be more of a two way situation. But what Memphis did here was, by virtue of trading the Anthony Melton, and then replacing him with cheaper salary, they kind of protected themselves or opened the door if they decide Kyle Anderson, thanks for what you've done. Moving on, tires Jones, little expensive for what we want to do, moving on. They've kind of now added their depth behind those guys plus things up in Memphis, I don't know what you've seen or not. Maybe this is already out there, maybe it's not. They can pretty easily create in the range of about $23 million of cap space. Which is kind of terrifying. Yeah. How do they spend that on those?.
Game Theory Podcast
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"It's not that he's done anything to hurt his personal stock. Other guys who just helped a little bit more and you start looking at the age and second guess if he can be a three indie guy and what else does he do? So I'm going to take over there. Yeah, I agree. Over plus one 50, that is like a very strong one for me. Zach, let's go a couple more. Dyson Daniels. Over under 7 and a half minus one 95 juiced. I think I'm going over. Just slightly, which is very slightly over. I haven't met 7 right now, so this is a pretty dead on number. If you're making me pick, I think I would go over. The thing that's interesting for me here is that the over under is juiced so strongly toward under here at minus one 95. Dyson Daniels over is plus one 60. I think I like over 7 and a half plus one 60 if you made me pick here. But it wouldn't be far over. I can not see him getting out at the top ten. Agree, I'll go over. This is another trade dependent one with Sacramento at four Detroit 5 Indiana 6 Portland 7. Even though it's 8, we've heard kind of floated offers whether real or not, but at least gauging the market, those could be completely different teams. And somebody could just be leak froggy to get him at 7 because I think New Orleans likes about 8 San Antonio 9 stay away had to I'm going slightly over though. All right, Zach, give us one or two more. Walker Kessler over under 24 and a half. There's been like one easy one so far, I think. This is difficult. Yeah, I think I've walker at 25 right now. So either I'm honored like we're getting here. That's great. Yeah, I think I would go over. To be honest, I think that this one's close though. I go over the same thing. I was looking at my draft board and it said the 25th, it went Milwaukee Kennedy channel or Dallas. Like, Kennedy Chandler, who's he drafting as a type on my end, but I would go over there too. Yeah. Zach, let's go. AJ Griffin. Over under ten and a half with the over juiced minus two 65. I would go over here even with the juice..
Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast
"Sometimes it goes against you. Those are the breaks, but this player I'm going to draft is I think somebody Memphis actually may draft because of their roster and financial situation going forward. And that's the point guard out of Tennessee, Kennedy Chandler. They have tyus Jones, who's an unrestricted free agent. Jones was excellent. Maybe the best backup point guard in the league. Obviously John Moran is a superstar. But Kennedy Chandler, you guys know as pedigree, especially you're recruiting gurus, you know, top ten high school player, played for Team USA, you know, I like his ability with the ball on his hands. He just knows how to play. I like his feel. I really like his defense. I thought that for a freshman guard, I was trying to go back and think of freshman guards who defend like that. He anticipated well. He got 2.2 steals per game. Any skill. Now, they're concerns about his size. He's small, he's not very athletic and the shooting. So that's going to be the determining factor, but you have a superstar and John morant. You're looking for a backup point guard. This kid's a good basketball player. He knows how to defend. I think he fits right in in Memphis. The Goodman, how worried are you about the size? We just said that one of the best things about him is his ability to defend. If he's probably 5 11 on a girl, I don't care what he's listed at like that dude, he's not a very big man. He's small, but he fits in need. I mean, that's what you're drafting here. Like Ryan saying you're drafting for need as much as anything else this is a bad point guard draft. There's no other way to say it. You know, Kennedy Chandler probably goes higher than he should. Only because, again, there aren't a lot of good point guards out there. Sam, we've talked about his size before how concerned are you? Extremely. It's just really, really hard to be a 6 foot guard in today's NBA, especially when you're a 170 pounds, like Kennedy Chandler is. The first hard as he works. And I feel bad, like it's through no fault of his own. He's done a phenomenal job improving as a shooter. He works really hard. He does all of the right things. I take no solace and saying that I'm not like a Kennedy Chandler guy. I love everything he brings to the table. It's just, it's hard to imagine a world where he doesn't get hunted on mismatches in today's NBA, given how mismatched heavy these best players in the league get yeah, I think you can't measure the heart though and tend to see really turned into the best team of the SEC for a stretch last season because of Kennedy Chandler Goodman. Pick number 23, the Philadelphia 76ers, are we going to trust your process here? You know, I'm torn on this one..
Game Theory Podcast
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Bit, yeah. Yeah. Kennedy Chandler is two pounds less than John butler. Despite being a foot shorter. Yeah, that's a wild step. I mean, I this is, he needed to go back to Florida state, put on strength. Like it's not like he was in a bad space to go put on strength, right? Like, his career is going to be much more difficult now. He has talent, like he can shoot. He's 7 foot tall. He can move his feet really well. But he's probably going to be on a two way contract. Start next year. And this is a very real mistake, I think. We talked about it and you are watching Florida state earlier than years that who is this was on the radar. This kid looks unbelievable. He blocked a shot. He had four points. And I got the same from a few people that saw warmups started to lay up lines like, do you know this John butler kid, oh yeah, I know the backstory a little bit, bounce around grassroots teams. Nobody said that this is a lottery pick this year. A lot of the quote unquote draft Twitter community likes him as sort of a stash, but even there, no one's screaming like great. He's going to be a top 20 pick. Right. His career is going to be much harder because of this choice is my take. It's going to be, he's going to be a two way contract guy and I'll likelihood. Even if he gets a guaranteed contract, he's so far away from being able to play competently in an NBA game. That it's still just going to take forever like in teams are going to get impatient with the roster spot to make it work. This is not a good choice. I feel bad. I think the kid has talent. And I think that there is a real chance that by the time he's 25 years old, has a chance to play in the NBA. He's just nowhere near there yet. No, not yet. Yeah. Which is a bummer. Immuno Muhammad is physically ready to play in the NBA. Kind of the antithesis here, where he doesn't really shoot it well, but is physically ready to play in the NBA. And I get this decision. I don't love it. I will have him somewhere in my top 50. Just because I would, I mean, would you give a medium Muhammad guaranteed contract? No. I don't think I would either, but he'd probably be one of my priority two way guys. Absolutely. Because I think if you can teach him to shoot, he's so tough he's so physical that I actually kind of like the rest of it. Yeah, he's a smash mouth type of guy, but he's a 31% true from three. Georgetown did well in the portal. They were really bad last year. Could have went back and another kind of like just be the guy..
Game Theory Podcast
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Because that's important part of it too. Because we'll get the measurements at the combine, which is great but despite I think shreve Cooper is listed at 6 foot 5 or something or remember that came out. It's like, oh, it's like. So is your cutoff like 6, two? Is it sub 6? I don't know. But if I look at my board, it's like, I have nobody that is currently listed under 6 foot one or no, I've no one listed under 6.3. In the top 29 of my board. And that is kind of 30th. I have Kennedy Chandler 30th, yep. So, and then I have John Montero, super late, like Jean Montero is the one that I'm actually pretty worried about in this regard. I think Kennedy is tough enough and defends it a high level enough to where it's going to be fine. Jean Montero is the one where it's like, oh, the defense just really might not be good enough. But yeah, I think that I think that's it. I think that it's just really fucking hard to be 6 foot to 6 foot two and playing the NBA. Unless you shoot like the aris Garland and then we can we can rediscover. So my point is like there's always like that outlier guy and I'm with you totally. I think I've Chandler a few spots lower Montero lower in that range. I've always hesitated for smaller guards and going to walk through Cooper in the G league this year in Atlanta showed a lot of really good things, but turning that corner and pick and roll and being met by multiple guys who are 6 11 with 7 foot two, three wingspans. It's a different game. Okay, from Gregg casoli, did you all know that Jalen suggs was a quarterback in high school? I did. Disappointed and I don't say draft Twitter and maybe we'll get some of these like dust it off takes, but like I'm a little disappointed we haven't got more of the talk about Johnny Davis being a quarterback about Taliban Caribbean quarterback. Henderson played football sure. Anthony Edwards played football. It's a common trait among elite athletes. And don't specialize. Don't specialize in sports. That's a good thing to say too. Growing up play everything. Okay, this is from Chase Peterson. This is funny. Would you rather run the Sacramento Kings with complete freedom or run the Lakers, but you have to hire Mark Jackson is your coach in keep him around however long he likes..
Game Theory Podcast
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"And the kid, he's won it at every level. You hate to see him go out the way that he did, and you saw the emotional embrace with John Howard, who is known for, forever long as he is. There were pieces that played beyond the narrative and part of the reason I kind of slowed push them up on a level two is the size, and he hasn't had quite like the struggles with bigger defenders as I anticipated as the year wore on over time. Yeah. Now he hasn't. I thought he played great. I thought he was a much better defender at the point of attack. He's been and it's the length too. He's fast and has the length despite being small, so he gets in those passing lanes. You want to cheat like a little bit less but he's really good instincts to be like one pass away from the ball and jump that land. Yeah, no, I agree. It wasn't a smell for kill abuse and it was a steal. Three rebounds. Knowledge. That was a good scout. Two turnovers too. Yeah. That does count. These hook four shots. No, you know what? We're podcasts here. That would be a trillion. That wouldn't be a Snell. We're not doing that. We're doing trillion for our boss. We are a trillion podcast. We are trillion podcasts. We are definitely a turning podcast. Shout out. Good friend of the program, Mark Titus. I will say he should go back to school. Does he though? Yes. Let's do this exercise real quick. I'm just going to rattle off some names. You say, towards the segment here, should I stay or should I go? Jeremy sell him. He should go. Malcolm Brown. He should at least test and probably end up going. Bryce McGowan's is gone. He announced that today. Yes. Patrick Baldwin junior. Test. And see, see how it goes, I think. Blake Wesley. I think he should go back. Excited too. And then I think that it's more because I think he's sealing if he goes back, works through the decision making progressions works through the processing speed of the game, continues to improve his shot. I think his ceiling is going like 7 or 8 next year. I think it comes out this year. It's probably like 25. And like not a guarantee to go 25, I don't think either. No, no. He could slide you're hoping for a multiple first round pick ish type team or like a guarantee at 32. We say, we'll take you and statue, but it gets spooky around that range like you never know. The parts I was worried about Blake Wesley, we saw against against Rutgers. We saw in the second game where and the game he goes left and goes to the rim and gets blocked and called defenders are great. It's different than the NBA. I admired that he wanted to have that weight on his shoulders, but he didn't quite deliver the shooting has been as good the last three, four games. I agree with that one. Kennedy Chandler, you say, go back and the last one, I'll leave you with is can you Chandler go back to school? Did I say it? You say go back or test. I would absolutely test it. I think you should probably go. I don't know if you should go pro, but I would venture if he goes.
Game Theory Podcast
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"We had our most prospect a week a couple of weeks ago. There could be guys that I have at 45, and normally we're pretty good, like the standard deviations four or 5 picks. You could have a guy that's 45 or 50 on your board going late first. There could be some franchises like we're not doing this whole like freshman pre draft thing. Get me the older guy, get me, we'll take Jordan hall. We'll take Julian's champagne. We'll take even Justin Lewis, who's a sophomore, like guys who have been around the block, just like a little bit more than we're going to roll the dice with Blake Wesley, or a minimum, or even Kennedy Chandler. There's just, I don't know how this plays out. Turquoise on Smith in conference this year is averaging 17 points shooting 42% from the field 39% from three, four rebounds to assist in two steals. Like most years, like that is probably a one and done player. Statistically, is a freshman when you do that. He's just so physically underdeveloped that it's hard to say like this guy should go pro. You know what I mean? Like if he returns then he state next year he's probably average in 22 a game. Like pretty easily, I think. So he's very talented. It's just like, I don't think he should leave college. I do want before we go. I want to recognize a couple of small school players. Just for funsies, you know? Sure. We haven't talked at all about Tevin Brown this year at Murray state. He's good. He's really good. He is the best player on a really good team. Like a team that's 26 and two, and very much a threat to make the sweet 16 this year at Murray state. Tevin Brown is shooting 39 percent from three this season. He is a consistent knock down shooter at like 6 foot 6. I'm a big fan. I think that he probably look, I don't know if I want to say probably gets taken in the second round. But I think he is a real shot to get taken in the second round. He's averaged 17 points, 5 rebounds, three assists versus under two turnovers a game while shooting 39% on 8 three pointers a game. I think he has a real shot to go in the first round. He's a good man. The second round. I'm sorry. But he's a march name too. He's not going to sneak up on us because we've watched him and followed him and we said how much we'd like to watch him play for a lot of scouts. They do the work. They go there. But when you're on a bigger elevated stage playing against time major guys and you get to the second weekend, that's when the eyeballs get a little bit bigger and you say, hey, he's really doing it against maybe other first round or second round picks. And it's an easier comparison when those two teams are playing. And another guy I want to bring up is Tucker de vries. Drake, he's playing for his dad, Darien debris. He is awesome..
Game Theory Podcast
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"We had our most prospect a week a couple of weeks ago. There could be guys that I have at 45, and normally we're pretty good, like the standard deviations four or 5 picks. You could have a guy that's 45 or 50 on your board going late first. There could be some franchises like we're not doing this whole like freshman pre draft thing. Get me the older guy, get me, we'll take Jordan hall. We'll take Julian's champagne. We'll take even Justin Lewis, who's a sophomore, like guys who have been around the block, just like a little bit more than we're going to roll the dice with Blake Wesley, or a minimum, or even Kennedy Chandler. There's just, I don't know how this plays out. Turquoise on Smith in conference this year is averaging 17 points shooting 42% from the field 39% from three, four rebounds to assist in two steals. Like most years, like that is probably a one and done player. Statistically, is a freshman when you do that. He's just so physically underdeveloped that it's hard to say like this guy should go pro. You know what I mean? Like if he returns then he state next year he's probably average in 22 a game. Like pretty easily, I think. So he's very talented. It's just like, I don't think he should leave college. I do want before we go. I want to recognize a couple of small school players. Just for funsies, you know? Sure. We haven't talked at all about Tevin Brown this year at Murray state. He's good. He's really good. He is the best player on a really good team. Like a team that's 26 and two, and very much a threat to make the sweet 16 this year at Murray state. Tevin Brown is shooting 39 percent from three this season. He is a consistent knock down shooter at like 6 foot 6. I'm a big fan. I think that he probably look, I don't know if I want to say probably gets taken in the second round. But I think he is a real shot to get taken in the second round. He's averaged 17 points, 5 rebounds, three assists versus under two turnovers a game while shooting 39% on 8 three pointers a game. I think he has a real shot to go in the first round. He's a good man. The second round. I'm sorry. But he's a march name too. He's not going to sneak up on us because we've watched him and followed him and we said how much we'd like to watch him play for a lot of scouts. They do the work. They go there. But when you're on a bigger elevated stage playing against time major guys and you get to the second weekend, that's when the eyeballs get a little bit bigger and you say, hey, he's really doing it against maybe other first round or second round picks. And it's an easier comparison when those two teams are playing. And another guy I want to bring up is Tucker de vries. Drake, he's playing for his dad, Darien debris. He is awesome..
Game Theory Podcast
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"We had our most prospect a week a couple of weeks ago. There could be guys that I have at 45, and normally we're pretty good, like the standard deviations four or 5 picks. You could have a guy that's 45 or 50 on your board going late first. There could be some franchises like we're not doing this whole like freshman pre draft thing. Get me the older guy, get me, we'll take Jordan hall. We'll take Julian's champagne. We'll take even Justin Lewis, who's a sophomore, like guys who have been around the block, just like a little bit more than we're going to roll the dice with Blake Wesley, or a minimum, or even Kennedy Chandler. There's just, I don't know how this plays out. Turquoise on Smith in conference this year is averaging 17 points shooting 42% from the field 39% from three, four rebounds to assist in two steals. Like most years, like that is probably a one and done player. Statistically, is a freshman when you do that. He's just so physically underdeveloped that it's hard to say like this guy should go pro. You know what I mean? Like if he returns then he state next year he's probably average in 22 a game. Like pretty easily, I think. So he's very talented. It's just like, I don't think he should leave college. I do want before we go. I want to recognize a couple of small school players. Just for funsies, you know? Sure. We haven't talked at all about Tevin Brown this year at Murray state. He's good. He's really good. He is the best player on a really good team. Like a team that's 26 and two, and very much a threat to make the sweet 16 this year at Murray state. Tevin Brown is shooting 39 percent from three this season. He is a consistent knock down shooter at like 6 foot 6. I'm a big fan. I think that he probably look, I don't know if I want to say probably gets taken in the second round. But I think he is a real shot to get taken in the second round. He's averaged 17 points, 5 rebounds, three assists versus under two turnovers a game while shooting 39% on 8 three pointers a game. I think he has a real shot to go in the first round. He's a good man. The second round. I'm sorry. But he's a march name too. He's not going to sneak up on us because we've watched him and followed him and we said how much we'd like to watch him play for a lot of scouts. They do the work. They go there. But when you're on a bigger elevated stage playing against time major guys and you get to the second weekend, that's when the eyeballs get a little bit bigger and you say, hey, he's really doing it against maybe other first round or second round picks. And it's an easier comparison when those two teams are playing. And another guy I want to bring up is Tucker de vries. Drake, he's playing for his dad, Darien debris. He is awesome..
Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast
"Trust in that pair if tita is healthy. The big thing is is Thai Thai Washington. I know I think I saw you tweet this morning, should they shut them down? And let them just, was that you the tweet of that? No, but no, but somebody else did. Some other really good insider that I follow. Probably. A better insider. Probably. And he's not better and I'm shocked to follow him. I am too, honestly. Yeah, no, I think the health is the question, but those two guys, Kentucky has been awesome this year. They are, they are built to win at a high level across the board. All those dudes. But yes, I would give them, I agree with you. I do them and I. Who else can anybody else? Kennedy Chandler. 6 and a half. Really? Well, that's so inconsistent for me. Yeah, he is up and down. All right, who do you think I missed? Isaiah Stevens, Colorado state. You'd be the only name I put on there. I like him a lot. I know you haven't seen him. I'm talking about I'm talking about teams that have a chance. Guys, that's fair. That's fair. I don't think Tennessee's got a chance, but that's no no, I guess. I haven't seen him play. So I think we've both come to the conclusion. We take a lesbian number one, would you give Gillespie a ten? No, I don't think anybody is deserving of a ten on that list. Okay, I'm just I'm doing it by saying the highest ranks correct. Right. Yeah, on scale. Gillespie would be the number one ranking in my power rankings with, I think, severe Wheeler and Thai Thai, number two, I like Tiger Campbell. I would have him three nem hard four Frasier 5 can just sit. Yeah, I probably go Gillespie Wheeler than a Ken Joe, then Trent curbelo, then them harder than Tiger, then Isaiah Stevens. The fact that kerbela was even named with these cats is pretty squashed. I'm not giving up. I'm not ready to give up. Which take of yours is worse. Marilyn bench for this point. A lot of avalanche. I mean, they really miss your boy. Is it James? James Graham. Everything would have been different. I mean, charge might still be there. They could be. For anybody that wants James Graham, he is in the portal waiting room. He is a committed anywhere? No, he's waiting. The suitors are coming. Waiting for what? The suitors are coming. He should get you as his agent. You would have him somewhere really good. Really, really good. I'm gonna see if I can get him to Purdue next year. Okay. See what we can do. All right. All right, you have a game, your first conjecture game in person ever and no, no, no, and like four years. I did BYU get zag at the kennel. Sweet. We place. Kennel is great. Yeah, yeah, it's a good spot. So this is my first game of theirs since then. So they've been flying under the radar. I mean, I saw him back when they beat Texas and absolutely smother Texas. Chet was not great in that game. Get two points in that game? Yeah, he just didn't do anything. I mean, he honestly he was like, just another player out there and, you know, we saw him kind of start to get a little better through the non conference schedule, but he has been absolutely dominant in league play. Now a lot of people will say, well, yeah, it's pepper time. It's Portland. It's specific..
Game Theory Podcast
"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"That they're generating and I am baffled by it in a lot of ways. This is like the concern I had about them taking severe Wheeler. Like all of the severe Wheeler concerns bore themselves out on the court against Notre-Dame whenever he's the one running the show as opposed to sci-fi Washington at the end of this game. And I understand why there is a hesitancy based off of quality of competition with Tai Tai after we saw the bad duke game where Trevor kills just completely locked him up. Right. And yeah, kills did a phenomenal job on Thai Thai. Now, here's what I will say. Tie tie is a high level shooter. That's all translated so far. Like he's shooting 38% from three. He's a good mid range shooter and he's shooting 80 plus percent of the foul line. We believe in the jumper with tie tie, right? Yeah, I do. Certainly the mid range and we're shooting 38% from three and once you balance that, I was even higher after that bad dude came so yes. Still with it. He's playing essentially as a two man and has like a two to one assist turn of ratio. He's averaging three and a half assists per game, something like that? And in the moments where he gets a chance to make plays, like there's a real vision there, right? Like we've seen quite a bit. And on top of it, he's 6 foot three with like a 6 foot 9 wingspan, 6 foot ten wingspan, something like that. He has real positional size he is real positional length. He has real change of pace ability off the bounce. Like, I don't think he's quite as good of a ball handler as Kennedy Chandler and as he's probably pretty close to JD Davison in terms of technical craft, ball handling ability wise, he's probably a little bit better to be honest. JD's just like a lightning athlete and is like crazy out of ball screens. With his ability to get downhill, but tie tie in terms of technical craft, probably a lovable Kennedy Chandler, but he's so much bigger and longer and stronger that he just has a real, he's a real marginal advantage in those moments that Kennedy just doesn't have that like ability to fall back on because of the size. I think he's a better finisher at the basket. I love the way process is the game. I do think he like, look, if we're calling Jade ivey, a point guard. Or if we're calling Jaden IV a two guard like there's no way we should be calling tie tie it point guard either. They're the same to me positionally. Like they might place in point, they might place a mothball, we'll see, but I think they're both points at the end of the day, like personally. I think they're both going to play a lot of one. And I really have seen nothing from Thai Thai or since that duke game at least. That gives me cause for concern. The duke game was a worry. But he looks pretty good outside of that. I think he's been great. And then on top of it, like lest we forget the track record of Kentucky guards outperforming their collegiate trust the data production is pretty high. We've now got the manual quickly, who was great in college, but like, you know, a guy that we did not have a huge positive expectation of success in the NBA..
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"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"And just don't really account for how difficult it is to be a high level scorer. Like is Kennedy Chandler better how difficult it is to be a high level score at that size. I should finish that statement in the NBA. Like, is Kennedy Chandler a better prospect than Sharif Cooper? That's what I keep coming back. I would still Cooper. His stats, he's putting up legitimate numbers. And gee things not real life. Some leagues aren't real life. I went back today just for kind of context of Franz Wagner and the summer league average 8 points for game wasn't great in his last 12, he's been a top three rookie in the NBA. So some of these aren't real jeans not real. There are some indicators there. I'm also a boss and I've seen from what water is played really well in the G league at that type of size, but it's still like a level up. It's still a next step to that place. I'm more pro Sharif Cooper, if you said take one or the other right now. I think I am, too. And I will say, Kennedy has the advantage, I think of being a better shooter than Sharif Cooper is, and I think that NBA teams will probably buy that part of his skill set a little bit more. But like, this is such a depressing podcast. I don't know if we take a 5 hour energy in the middle here or what we have to do. We need some pods to do. You literally just watched me drink coffee. I told you, I can't drink my amino acids on the air 'cause I have to go to the bathroom and we're gonna record from the hour because I know how these things go. There's some prospect out there. There's a guard prostitute. I love Jade and I but we said that. He's not a porn car. But I love Jane ivy. There's somebody here who's who's still gonna surprise us, too. They're still there to be somebody comes out of this..
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"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"And to me, that guy is worth a late first round pick flyer. Now, it's funny. The antithesis of him in many ways is Kennedy Chandler, right? A guy that does not have elite physical tools, but has a lot of the skill level that evaluators hope for. He certainly has the role that evaluators would love to see him in at Tennessee where he does have the ball in his hands throughout most of the game. At least has the opportunity to have the ball in the same throughout most of the game. And again, I mean, the same issues that we brought up with Kennedy Chandler in the preseason. I think continue to cause me to give me pause, I guess. It's hard to be a 6 foot 165 pound guard in the NBA and we've seen some flashes of difficulty for Kennedy Chandler thus far adjusting to the size difference of players in college basketball. He's a blur. He's very fast to the ball in his hands. And he's quick most of the game. He got on the break. If he gets a step in transition, like he's beating you. I'm similar to you where he had that game statistically that the box, Colorado, and people said, see, here's the game. I actually felt worse about the game because I wasn't sold on that type of finishing working in college as a wood against the NBA. The rotating big and no disrespect to him at all was Evan batti, who's 6 8 two 60. You're not having that size of big rotating to help. It's 7 foot with the 7 7 wingspan. I will say he's a high percentage operator, pick and roll. He works of that well, and if guys go under, he's gonna shoot. I don't really believe in a shot. I think there's a lot of God hand. People pointed to other things. It's gonna work. It could get there. He worked on it all summer to improve. And then I'll give him credit for having stones too. Like the second half versus Colorado. Totally. It was a back and forth game. There's around the 8 minute mark. He calls his own number. He scores through contact. He's not afraid. He's not going to shy from the big moment. The other one I want to point out is he had really rough gaming in Texas tech, which was a very tough basket to watch, produce four for 13. He was one for 5 from three. He had 5 6 5 turnovers in the UNC Greensboro game. I watched their very physical with him and they picked him a full court. They made sure he didn't get any easy box. He was two for 9. The size and strength and that's gonna become the scout now when you get into conference play, how he adapts and works in that could be a little bit telling on what's gonna look like in the NBA as well..
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"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"6 16 in the top 7 and again, we can kind of like split hairs on if these guys are really the lead guards are not but Ben Simmons, Christine, buddy hill, Jamal Murray, then in 2015 we had D'angelo Russell, made a moody a year before Alfred prayed in one tenth. So anyway, just like rifling off those names because I'm looking at it and I'm scrolling through your mock and I'm looking through my notes. And I'm like, I don't know who the guy is. I had, I did the paw with Andrew and Alex the other day and they're like, do you take a job rant could you come up, I'm sorry, not traumatic cheese. Jane ivy could become a point guard in that mold. I said, I don't know, but it's an interesting question because we've talked about it is Tati Washington, the first guard off the board, like I just need a little help here if I'm going as crazy as you are. This is a this is a really good question. I would say that going into the draft. Let's say, you know, I did not necessarily think of Ben Simmons as like a quote unquote point guard even like coming into that class. So let's take him off the board. Take him off. Your body's not a point guard. It was Christ on it was Jamal Murray. Wade Baldwin. Had some steam. Like, to me, a little bit later. Yeah, the 2016 group is the one. Like that, that's the one that's really bad. If you take Ben Simmons off the board. Even 2015, like there was a lot of steam behind D'angelo Russell. There was a lot of steam behind Emmanuel moody as well, like people thought they could be a top 5 pick. So I understand what you're saying. And I think that it's not wrong because then you go down, campaign. I had campaign like in the 20s. Terry Rozier would go 16. I had him in the 20s. Jaron grant, delon Wright, tyus Jones, but like we're getting into like non lottery guards, which is not the crux of your question. Is this the worst? Now I'd say like the handful of guys. Tai Tai Washington, Kennedy Chandler who's talked about JD Davidson, Sean Montero, do you count him? Do you count? I would for what it's worth. I would put Jaden ivy in this conversation. See, if you put you in, I mean, there I think it changes it just a little bit. Not a ton, but doesn't make it as the bottom falls off. Do you count usman dang? Like probably not, but no, he's not a point. He's the they're not even the breakers aren't. A little bit better than it could be. If you include ivy, I still think it's the darkest it's been in 5 years anyway. Yeah, if you don't include ivy, it's definitely a fact. If you include IV, so you definitely don't include Jaden hardy, is like a combo like point shooting car. Ceasefire. Yeah. Yeah, I mean Jayden's firing that thing toward the rim. And it'll go a little bit more of the time. If you're lucky. So the names that I'll consider here to answer this question. I will consider ivy. Because I think that he is going to play point. I mean, we have talked about how much better his distribution skills have gotten. Yeah. I think long term he's going to be a point. Thai Thai Washington. Do we count dice and Daniels who's playing point for the elite right? Legally. Yeah, good point. Sure. Throw them in there. Not so throw them in there. Jean Montero may be Kennedy Chandler, maybe JD Davison, although another guy that I think has been a bit underwhelming..
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"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"The shot is a little bit flat. He's great on the brake. He just needs to make an impact and make basketball plays when the game is actually played slower and we know how fast Alabama likes to play. We know how many threes they want to take up. But when the dimensions of the court change, it's not a track meet, how is he able to make his imprint on the game? That's always been my concern with him. Once he gets a college level. Which, by the way, it's going to be really interesting. To compare and contrast him in Kennedy Chandler this year, I think. Right. Because Kennedy Chandler is a lot of the stuff that JD Davison is in JD Davison is a lot of stuff in terms of tools that Kenny Chandler just doesn't have yet. I would venture Kennedy Chandler's more successful season this year than JD Davison. I would venture that JD Davison if it hits. I mean, that guy's upside is just higher because he's 6 three. He's a real athlete like he has real vision. He can distribute like there's just enough there. And playing in Alabama's offense is going to help him long-term. Again though I just wonder if he's a two year player, not a one year player. Yeah, it could be. You kind of have my brain spin a little bit 'cause you're absolutely right. Like if you say it's a lot I said if you combined usman garuba and Albert Schengen, it's the perfect 5, and now you're talking about the perfect point guard on the SEC. Like you had the exposed to this has four general notes how to play and make the right reads. It also could be a situation where if they both GoPro Kenny Chandler could have a better season statistically and more minutes played and you just have these tiny pockets of windows of the JD Davis and experience and sculptures can't pass on him for a guy who's maybe a little bit smaller, just hoping that it does hit, and then all of a sudden you have this crazy explosive two way guard who hasn't played a lot of basketball. He takes some time to develop them and maybe it hits what you need to be a couple of years down the road. Yeah, I was talking to an NBA executive on the phone earlier this week. And one thing that we kind of brought up was the idea of comparing the NBA landscape to startups and people that like live in the startup world and startup investors. Startup investors will invest in companies not like they're going to fail probably 7 out of ten, 6 out of ten, right? But the goal is to hit the one that can like 50 X or a hundred X your money, not to find the one that will just like three X your money because you feel like it's an it's a little bit, right? The goal here is in many ways, is very ants. You want to find that high level variants and you want to find that high level upside. JD Davison has that if it works long term in comparison to someone like Kennedy Chandler in my opinion. Oh, it's a hundred. We'll just see the hits. It's a hundred. Right? But you also have to balance that and it's a great analogy. Number one, where are you drafting? And then number two, how hot is your seat as a front office as a general manager? You can take those kind of chances, albeit maybe a little bit more calculated..
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"kennedy chandler" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"If his feet are set. I'm fine with that ball reversal on file with it. If a guy goes under the pick and roll, and he kind of has that extra half a second to get set as opposed to going off the bounce. I'm okay. But movement stuff from three, it's just not there yet. It's not. And that's why I take pause because we saw a guy like shreve Cooper who's just unbelievable out of the pick and roll, and the vision and the reads that he makes, too, still comes back to the shooting. Shot at well for a game or two and summary, but if you don't do it all the time, it's just hard to keep you on the floor in the NBA. Yeah, and Sharif Cooper is a guy who I think is a live gerbil passer, like the passing that really translates in and out of sets and NBA settings. I think he's pretty severely ahead of where Kennedy is right now. So yeah, like I'm not even totally convinced that Kennedy Chandler is the first round pick yet. He could earn that. He definitely could earn that throughout the year and prove himself. That would not surprise me at all, just given the mentality, the basketball IQ, the court sent all of that. I would totally buy that. But the tools just aren't kind of there, and that makes it really, really hard when the tools aren't there. I feel like he's at least listening to the right people though, because the feeble stuff this summer. He did rely much more to his jumper in international play than he did. Basically here where he can really get in the lane and really slice up defenses off the bounce in high school, but you could tell he started to kind of mold this game to the way the fever style is and hit some jump or the average 7.7 points per game. So he's not hardheaded that he thinks he's going to play this one style and that's going to take him to the next level. Yeah, totally. I agree with all that. Okay, let's go to Thai Thai Washington. Next. So not a crazy explosive athlete. But is bigger at 6 foot three? What do we want to call tie tie? Like a 190 pounds, 200 pounds? Yeah, so one 90 on these quite 200. Yeah, I would say that's probably right. So when I watch Thai Thai, I think tremendous shooter really really good passer. Like sees all of the passes on the court consistently in a way that you need to in order to be successful whenever you don't win on explosiveness, right? Because his first step is not great. He's not an explosive athlete. I even think his handle is just okay. In terms of creativity, like he has a tight handle and he has good footwork like he's good once he picks the ball up and can Euro step. They can do some different little poised moves. Like he doesn't get flustered with the ball. But it's hard to win as a lead guard when you're not crazy explosive..