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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

05:57 min | 9 months ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"VIP members and for everyone wants everyone. I I just I. I'm looking forward to seeing a lot more of you on the wwe network with more AWAC for my question. Just how what was it like when you went wrong working the AWA WWF. What was the biggest thing that came out you like what was it like? Was it different worlds was I. I've read in the past that you've said the later wwf marketed some more details about the CIA switch over to when you went through WWF. And I'll just be listening the free response to guys. I appreciate everything I love the old days of. Ua about today. Well thank you got the difference were was day night In fact it may have been with you. Wade someone I I did. An interview A month or two after Sir and they kind of asked the same question Scott did to give them an an analogy and I said it was like if you woke up up one morning and you were. You know the starting right fielder for the Kenosha twins in Class A baseball and the next day you walk up and you were the starting center fielder for the New York Yankees The the the difference in in terms of formal production meetings and knowing exactly what we were going to do The the the marketing I mean in and WWF It's like everything we did was designed and had a purpose whether it was promoting promoting the next show trying to sell tickets or promoting merchandise or promoting an upcoming pay per view. I mean it it. The the organization and depth and preparedness was just amazing. I I learned so much about television and when I was doing you know the news I I did my own editing and everything but it was so exact a prime example when we did the Awa interviews you know somebody. It'd be a kind of a camera guy that would give you a wind up sign and you know it. It wasn't a hard and fast time but in those days in WWF WWF. They shot the matches. You know three weeks at a time in Poughkeepsie. New York or in Branford Ontario. And then and we would do the interviews. The week of the show the matches may have been shot. Television matches a couple of weeks before so there was an exact act hole in the show for the interview and we had It was great for me right under the camera was a huge countdown down clock where the interviews in generally we did three a show the first two were a minute and fifty one seconds. Because that's what the whole ones and if you went a minute fifty three or four minutes forty nine you had to Redo it. was that exact. And the second the third and final interview which was usually a two parter was two minutes and fifty four seconds but I mean everything was that exact and and in those days everything we did. It wasn't scripted. It was spontaneous was extemporaneous but whoever they you know interview was going to be with the talent you know we would talk for a minute and the one thing I would always ask is now. Do you have anything specific. You want to go over but I always said okay when we get down to it. Do you want to pay it off or do you want me to some of the guys like hulk always liked to take it out himself others. There's wanted me to so when we were standing there I would be cognizant of the Stop countdown clock and what I would do if I was going to pay it off or even and the other guy if I had the feeling they weren't you know they were really into it worked. I would just step on their foot lightly to remind them they would stop and let me pay it off so you know with will be back and right at one fifty four. That was just you know one of the the differences is but I mean Everything we did there was always a a an agent there to let you know. Here's what we're trying to focus on. It was just the the organization and you know I mean a lot of the criticism he gets but I don't think Vince gets the credit due. Do for just really the the taking the business into the next generation where I mean it was I was just the everything was so well thought out the the difference. It was just night and day. Need an extra dose of positivity in your wrestling. PODCASTS will come join me out for L.. Over in the progress Paradise Appeal Torch. VIP AS WE BOSC on the bright side of wrestling and focus on some the great matches and chose from around the world be it the US. Japan Europe or Mexico. There's always a place of restaurants passed in the Paradise to and we've done fun. Historical shows such as the we love ligers series celebrating glorious career of Thunder like I was there when shows where guests will join me me talk about a classic boat that they were in attendance for we love variety and you can expect lots of it at the press paradise detailed. PW TORCH VIP subscription information on a list of all.

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

08:49 min | 9 months ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"I do believe that there's some people who are wondering who the heck you are and I do want to fuck you. You have to talk about I I I. I've heard that now I will say we've got some. We've got some emails in and We're GONNA get phone calls and they're plenty of people excited to talk to you today and ask questions But I I do for the way background because WWF the WWF wwe. They've gone through a lot of announcers over the years. You were there at a pivotal time and your face is going to start showing up more and more often. WWE Network Archives get added. But you got your start in pro wrestling in the AWA. Ken Do you mind. Just is giving a little bit of a background about how you ended up in the Awa and kind of work your way to The timeline of WWF. And I know we've got some stories about that. Vince McMahon job interview. Oh sure no I'll be glad to wait I was actually doing the sports on the six and ten o'clock news at the NBC affiliate in Rochester Minnesota. Although I kinda commuted still lived in the twin cities and in the mid eighties here in Minneapolis Saint Paul. There was a huge celebrity. Golf Tournament called Duff Celebrity Golf and tennis tournament and I mean they got so the the real a listers. One time they had the cash cast from hillstreet blues they had the cast from Mash so it was a national type celebrity tournament and I had been involved with it before I got started in television and they had an area at the tournament called celebrity corner where they would have someone you know. Bring up the the national celebrities onstage and interview them and talk to them so the crowd could listen and get to know. Oh them a little bit. I on a personal level and I was doing that one year and one of the guests we had was vern Donya on you and I did a thing with burn for about fifteen or twenty minutes and then saw him later that night in the clubhouse and you yeah we talked for a couple of minutes and he wanted to know a little my background and you know I told them and where I was working now and and that was it and about a week and a half later. I get a call at the television station. Rochester and the switchboard operators. Just going crazy. She goes. I don't know if this is true. But there's a man wants to talk to you and he says he's Verne Ganja and you know I took the call and realize it was vern and he said when are you going to be up in the city's next and I told him I was up all weekend. He said how about would. Would you like to have lunch on Saturday. which we did we spent some time and he said what would you think of coming to work for me? And that's how I ended ended up starting in the AWA I. How much of a wrestling fan were you at that point? What kind of experience you had with pro wrestling fan and in the level of interest that you convey I I mean I was a wrestling fan as I think you know you being from this area that that was the real heyday of the AWA? I mean in terms of the crusher and mad dog Rashawn blackjack Lanza Lanza Nick. Bach Winkle Bobby Heenan The the road warriors so I was a wrestling fan in that. When I was around on weekends I certainly would would watch all star wrestling on television and had gone to a few of the shows so I guess the easiest way to put it away? I was a fan I. I wasn't a fanatic. You know coming in you know I. I knew who the baby faces were. Who the heels were you know who are the big names? It's you know I. I certainly had name recognition and and facial recognition so. I wasn't coming into a ice cold but at the same time it was one hundred and eighty degrees from you know doing sports on the six ten o'clock news. Oh Oh Yeah I mean all that by road warrior. Hawk is quite different than sitting behind a desk or going to a local basketball game or or that kind of thing man. What commission exactly? Yes absolutely Oh I was just going to go to Scott passenger who Emailed and said he had a question but apparently I didn't get to in quite quick enough so i WanNa know our phone numbers. If you WANNA talk to. Ken resnick. The phone number is six four. Six seven two one nine eight two way that has six four four six seven two one nine eight two eight. I'm Ken when you when you signed with Awa Or started working for them you were. It was the midst midst of of a pretty big wrestling war. Gene Oakland in institution in the Awa especially in the Saint Paul Minneapolis area or aws based A Ah very popular figure and and and kind of the face of the company more than Joe Biden crusher. How did you were you aware of the pressure fresher face the day that you showed up in gene? Oakland wasn't there D Don't shoulders well to correct you. When I came same gene was still there and you know I was actually fulltime? I was working in the office as well so the plan was us for me to to. You know. Spend a couple of weeks which I did you know during the interviews just watching gene and then I started off doing the the smaller markets. Like if I remember the first interviews I did for were stationed in in Lacrosse Wisconsin. So Oh that was the plan that I was going to kind of be a backup and learn you know the I mean I knew television was fine in front of a camera. You know more than intimidated but to kind of learn that way so gene was still there for a few weeks and then all the sudden gene was just gone he left in. I was the guy so at that point. There was a lot of pressure and also so from the fact that the the wrestler's talent really didn't know me yet and there wasn't a trust built up And I was very lucky in that having worked in really work more closely with blackjack Lanza who also worked in the office. Jack Kid Kid be kind of told them. Hey this guy is okay you can trust him. Yeah he's not out to show you up he's out to put put you over so that part came came very quickly but I know in my mind I said to myself. I can't imagine what might have happened. Had I not been. They're not talking about myself but had gene just just up and left and someone have been throwing into that where you know just from the get go and I mean it was very difficult for me. Ah But I was lucky in that I was able to learn from the likes of Jack. Lanza Nick Back Winkle and Bobby Heenan and and I remember when it all happened sitting down with Jack and I never forgot the two best pieces of advice anyone ever gave me came from. I think it was Jack and Nick Bach Winkle together when we were talking Jack Acces. Let me give you tell you two things. You're following Gene Oakland. which is pretty big shoes to try and fill so be yourself be? Ken resnick. Dole's try and be gene Orland and the other a piece of advice which I never ever forgot he said to me you know what the best way to get yourself over in. This business is with with the boys and the fans and I said no tell me he said the best way to get yourself over is. Don't try and get yourself over uh-huh and those were the two things where wherever I went and even other shows that that I did you know years later I I never forgot. It always remembered those two things and when I was getting ready to tape whatever I was doing I always repeated those things in my mind right before we started searching for more great pro wrestling. Talk and join me. Jason Powell host him to flee weekly pro wrestling boone own podcast.

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

02:11 min | 1 year ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"I never ever had any sort of interaction with Jeanne be, you know, Awa WWF post WWF. This was not, you know, warm and sincere. Gene was a great guy. Whether it was that, you know, some charity thing or event or just happenstance. You know, you'd always greet me. We talk you know, how you doing? What are you up to? So I you know, I didn't see him all that much. I didn't you know, hang out with him. It we never like said. Hey, let's go have lunch. But it was always great when we had a chance to whether it was some event that brought us together or just you know, happen stance. You know being in town. So I'll close with this. Is there a story about gene, probably from the Awa days that my questioning? Thing didn't bring out of you. That didn't get brought up that helps paint a picture of who he was for people who who wanna know more about them or just want to have a funny story to tell others. Nothing comes to mind, but. Gene was. In real life. Gene was probably closer to the gene people saw on TV. Then most people would have thought if that makes sense. Absolutely. Yeah. And the the the the one thing his passing brought to mind. In fact, I I found out I got a text from from someone I think, you know, ad Hellier, you know, from steel domain wrestling, you know, here here in the twin cities he had sent me a tax, and he said, you know, anything about gene Oakland passing away..

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

05:23 min | 1 year ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"And then it was like in anything else at the end of the night. Everybody wanted to either get somewhere and have a drink or get back to their room and get some sleep. When you look at work in W A W off television at that time. What was different about it for people who only saw him in the WWF and having, you know, didn't watch him in real time they'd up or on YouTube or WWE network. What what was remarkably if anything what was notably different about gene in the WWF that you picked up on because it was your vocation. Also. I think. The there was. Sometimes a little more. Over reaction to things, and I know it's a word used in. I'm trying to think of a different word, but. You know, I I just can't come up with it. But there was also a little bit more of a comedic tone to to some of the things it it's not the word. I I would like to use way. But I just can't come up with any anything that was analogous that. There would be times where you would see an interview, and you would kind of laugh, and I mean, not, you know, laugh with not app make that clear, but in the Awa that didn't occur with was sell tickets get the wrestler over and if it happened to be entertaining. Which of course, it always was and I would argue more. So that was a side effect of doing things the right way. And I think in. This applies just WWF in general and Vince McMahon's approach to to the pro wrestling product that a lot of people crave alternatives to which is Vince thinks the entertainment isn't the selling of fights and getting wrestlers over in sports like athlete. I wanna win a fight way. It's let's amplify the quirky aspects of their personality and have the interviewer Hamid up more. I think the best way, and I agree. The best way to praise it in the Awa. It was all about the house show. And the hour of all star. Wrestling was viewed its only purpose was to sell tickets for the house show. I mean back when gene was air. When I was there. You know, there wasn't the secondary merchandising either. It was strictly solely about selling tickets. And when I got to the WWF when gene ahead of me, even then Vince it was about not only selling tickets, but it was also about producing an entertaining television show. That was never I don't think. Process in the Awa. But in the WWF, it was about selling tickets building up the characters that getting to the point where even if you weren't a wrestling fan. You wanted to come see some of these larger than life personalities in in person. But it was also about creating an entertaining hour of television. Not unlike a sitcom or a drama, and I think that's where a lot of the overreaction, and and you know, comedic turn came into place because not only did Vince want the wrestling and the characters and everything else he was also focused on producing entertaining television. How about you to actually have you gene in subsequent years? Did you ever have lunch with him again or bump into him at a at a hall of fame or a ceremony or India show? Anything about town. I I would bump into him. You know, someone he was back in Minnesota sometime. And it was you know, it was always very, warm and great. I mean, I like Jean. I mean, it's I put on Facebook. I I was just so sad to learn. But I was aware he was battling health issues. I mean, he had had three kidney transplants, and I had heard at some appearance where he had been in a wheelchair. So I knew he was battling health issues. But..

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

05:41 min | 1 year ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"He just stopped looked at me for maybe thirty seconds openness top drawer, pulled out a razor and a can of shaving cream and said bathrooms right through that door. And I went in and shave my mustache and came back into his office. And he just looked at me. He said, you showed me something that's important. You showed me a backup? What you say? You'll start Saturday and shave your right off you should've seen his secretary. When I came out. Hour later, and suddenly, you know, the mustache I had gone. Oh, that's a Larry's. So so you get there and genius there. Talk about how gene seem the same or different. And how it was different with your dynamic at this point. And how often you guys cross pass? He he was from finding welcoming to me because it was understood. And I I think I'm gene had some things he needed to deal with where he was going to start taking time off, you know, and and just kinda do more some of the paper views and in the bigger shows. So the there was. I I'm certain that. I had was hired and would not have been hired gene hadn't been aware and was fine with it. So. Early on. I wouldn't I saw Jean it was always warm welcoming. But because they were so big and remember in those days, we often ran two and sometimes three Townsend night. So I would be working all the time. But in many instances, I might not even run into gene for like two weeks when when you did bump into, gene. I is it is it okay to say like white gene was cutting back with it was it was did he have other businesses going on? I was personal was burnt out. I think it was personal. And you know, might have been a little burn out. And that's just just speculation on my part because I know like I said one day, we did a hundred eleven interviews. That's chris. And I was doing those where Jeanne was also doing inter had cut back, but was still doing a number of interviews. And so I can only imagine what it was like that year and a half on his own. And you know with all the towns, you know, when we did interviews. It was always a different city. It was in in advance of a house show. So basically you were on a plane going somewhere every day. So, you know, I I it's it's I I think it was more either, you know, personal and or burnouts 'cause I mean that's forget anything else just flying in and you know, hotel airport airplane hotel arena hotel airpl- day after day. I mean that just wears on you on its own. And you know, again, I I knew my workload is when I got there and gene was still doing a fair amount. So I can only imagine what it must've been like a in the year and a half. He he and he was the only guy. Yeah. Oh, man. So how much interaction if any did you have with Jean going forward in the WWF given your time there, and then his his part time gate how much did you cross paths with him? Like, I said. Not that much who oftentimes it would just be. But yeah, it could sometimes be two or three weeks, and when we were in the same building or for a same show. There wasn't a lot of downtime or you could just kind of sit down, and and and Bs because when we would get to the arena, I would have this long list of things that that I had to get done and taped it as would he you know, in a different area with and there were separate production crews. So you know, I might be doing four or five six hours in one area, and he might be doing four or five in another area. So we will see each other. You know, greet each other talk for a little bit. Sometimes talk about what was going on in the Awa. But there wasn't a the there wasn't a lot of time for. Four or there wasn't a lot of interaction. But it wasn't any sort of, you know, personally, just you know. Okay. Hey, I we're gonna roll tame five minutes. Let's go. So we we could be under the same rough. But just working in in different areas of the building..

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

02:47 min | 1 year ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"But and not being a, but also not losing your dignity and your respect and he found that spot. I mean, the road warriors pushed the limits in that regard. I mean, they were so physically intimidating, and when I think of you conducting interviews I mean, the road words, come to mind, first and foremost, how did what Jean taught you in observing gene help you with some of your some of the bigger names that you interview during your time in the Awa and the roadways on that list. And who else is? I'll be honest. I had been there a very short time and the road warriors. I don't know if they were in Japan. But when I first started they weren't around. So the the first interview I did with the road warriors. I was intimidated as hell I'm sorry. They were scary got and and more. So because I didn't know them. And you know, as as we got to know each other, and develop, you know, great friendships with, you know, Mike, and Joe and Paul it was different. But that's for the there was no tip that I interview if I looked intimidated and a little scared. It was because I was Yeah. I mean, that's that's the honest truth and later on. I mean, we we had some some great interviews together. But. The that's the only. Wrestlers or talent that I can point to where I was at the very beginning interviewing them intimidated because of their size and characters and the only other one that that comes to mind was I been in towards the end I loved interviewing the road warrior, the only person I hated to have to interview with STAN Hansen and not because of anything else. But when he would tore around that cowbell, I can't tell you how many times I caught it in the shins. Yeah. So the and I mean, not because he was trying to do it purposely. But that was every time it was like, oh, yeah. I'd say gotta wrestle interview standing. Oh, no. And he's got to the point. I was thinking I should really pick up some just cheap hockey shin guards. Put them on. And of course, it's excuse which he would make with a wry smile was while I I'm terribly nearsighted..

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

04:17 min | 1 year ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"I mean, people still fans still refer to me as as killer can when you poke just came up with on his own one day. And I think it was. That, you know, gene. Behold. I got along great with hawk and it was hawks way of kind of. I think putting me over. But almost the exact opposite of what you were trying to with wrestlers trying to gain approval from gene, it was almost by doing that hawk was giving me his stamp of approval. I think you know, the Awa in that era has a reputation for just being a great promo era. Great interview era, they weren't even promo wasn't aware that really was utilized back, then I don't think right. No, no, just a interview. Yeah. Exactly. And I liked that it is. It's describing what it not arrested with a microphone doing a model, which is kind of a promo. It's an interview, and there's someone holding a microphone and ask them questions and leading things in a certain direction and reacting and how much I mean, I it pre degrade promos predated, gene, being the main guy holding the microphone in asking the questions, but part of that era being so good. And I I would put it above any other any of your territory, and I know RIC flair and Jim porn et and a number of others in that dusty Rhodes in that era hat were just fantastic youth Roddy piper early Roddy piper in in Georgia. But I just think that Awa is unmatched. I think it's number one. And I do think gene was absolutely a part of that Indiana. Cardio. Neil loyalists will push back a little bit. But I think jeans chemistry and playing off the rest of it's like you did and being being meek or makes it there. He's actually wasn't make. But he knew physically he wasn't supposed to act like he he wanted to act like he was intimidated by the wrestlers, but he also held his ground in new when to push back because he no he knew the promoters had us back in restaurants. Did anything physically to him that there'd be held pay any? He again, it was another line that he walked wrestler. Intimidating, but he didn't just cower in the presence of the heels when they bullied him picked on him or maybe even slightly implied physical intimidation off. I think you're Ryan again hood what I talked about. He and then something you you can't really teach someone I mean, just gene just had that natural instinct about how to react to and and play on. Off, you know, Marty O'Neill for the most part was even before. I mean, I was aware of him and watched him, but. He was like the the ultimate straight, man. All Marty O'Neill to the wrestlers was like Ed McMahon to Johnny Carson once in a while and would kind of through what he said or his reactions almost be able to steal a scene or a bit from Johnny. But I don't think Mario Neil ever. Did that he was the absolute ultimate straight man to the wrestlers. And even though gene was smaller than most of the wrestlers mighty O'Neill was even much smaller yet. So I don't think there was ever that kind of. Intimidation threat, and I'm not saying that in with any bodily higher, but within the body of the interview because mighty O'Neill was just even smaller than gene. And I it's such a sweet spot to hit again that that I credit gene with which which is not acting like you're not intimidated..

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

02:23 min | 1 year ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"But there was still a hierarchy in that day, which is not your Justin announcer, but you're an announcer, and you do your job we do ours. And I'm not really looking for quote your approval. There wasn't a hierarchy in involving, gene. And I don't think the wrestlers would seek his approval because unlike, you know, your reference to the tonight show with Johnny Carson, gene. Or I didn't lay out the interviews or decide who's going to be interviewed that was pretty much done in the Awa by you know, Verne and Greg. So there was no real avenue whether for someone to try and ingratiate themselves to gene thinking, you know, I'll get more interviews this way. So the there there wasn't the opportunity for gene too. Because you know, he Jeff. Genuinely likes someone or at a great relationship away to create like more interview time because when when we would get there, the interviews were always laid out. Was there anybody that you remember gene, not having chemistry with either surprisingly only on air or even maybe tension off area? Like, okay, you know, gene's gonna hold back a little bit or or, you know, he's just going to play, you know, play it more straight. Let them say their thing and move on. Because obviously, gene had chemistry with hulk HOGAN and enjoy playing off of I think Jesse Ventura and only. It was Jesse that internet or you came up with the name mean, gene. Yes. A lot of people thought it was hulk. Yep. But it was Jesse that had named him mean Jean and then hall picked up the mantra. And I've all was. Yeah. Just in the back of my mind taking pride in, you know, moving forward, you know, I was the only one that really hope gave a name to that..

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

02:07 min | 1 year ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"They seem like best friends, but keep it fresh. They didn't talk different circumstance in wrestling interviews, obviously like Louis, but how many one hundred and eighty degrees. Yes, we'll talk about gene in the wrestlers at work. And when they would clock out like what how how much was gene one of the boys. So to speak. Every bit of you know, he'd been there was accepted, and you know, down the road. So was I, but it it it just takes a while. I guess to to pay your dues, you know, earn your bones and because Jean had been there for quite a while on established himself. I mean, he was very much one of the boys. There was no, you know, K fading. You know, anything like that there? There was some of that when I first started but gradually after you know, gene left. I think all the guys knew I was there to make them look as good as could be, you know, there were time sometimes when at least with maybe lesser talent, gene. Gene, not purpose fully, but just gene being gene would almost overshadow. Arrest around interview. And that was never my way. So, you know, after a while I was accepted as one of the boys as well. Did did wrestlers seek trying to think how to how to phrase because I haven't idea in my head like seek jeans endorsement or approval on or off air in any way. Like where I mean it again, I'll use use a data talk show reference. Johnny Carson calling a comedian over to the desk. After the stand up was like this big endorsement was there anything with gene just did what I'm trying to get as good wrestler seat compliments from him on their interviews, or did it sort of stopped short of that gene had his role. They was good at it..

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

04:27 min | 1 year ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"What you're saying in? And it doesn't come across this way. But it couldn't a different context come across his criticism of gene for not at all. And I don't want anybody to think that it was just I realized that I could never be, gene. And would could never be as good as gene in in in his you know, reactions and and the way he could, you know, pop in an instant, and I didn't want to I guess for for lack of anything come across as kind of a poor man's, gene. So. It. It's Inouye a criticism. I if anything it would be almost self directed. I just knew I could not be or I don't know that anybody ever could be as good as Jean was in the way, gene to the interviews to create kind of create a little bit of my own persona. I just needed a differ different overall philosophy as to how I was going to do it. But it it's in no way. I I mean Jean. Yeah. I had to borrow the phrase we used to use with Bret Hart. You know, gene, the best. There was in the best there ever will be. Yes in and that's the recognition that you had as chiens personality, and charisma and timing was in a category unto itself and the rules. You described for yourself are I think the? The default. Rules should be the default rules for any interviewer and we've seen interviewers overreact two moments. You know, you know, Sean Mooney did a lot of interviews with WB off with a lot of over the top characters. And you know, it's like you have to be the straight, man. And let them be you you being the straight man allows them to stand out more. And regardless of you know, you said the cafe Barra I think it is. I didn't think wrestling one hundred percent real watching you. So I think it's overblown people who are younger than us thinking everybody who watched in the mid eighties or early eighties or whatever thought wrestling was real we didn't. But when we watch wrestling, they made us believe it was real. And I think that rule should apply today despite the accessibility of information. I agree with you completely and one sometimes people will stop me or I'll get into a conversation. I tried. I I mean, you didn't talk about it. But most people were like, you even back in the K fehb era that this isn't real. But even you didn't know how much was real and how much wasn't real. And I tried to approach it. It's like if you go to a movie, and certainly the legions of fans to the Star Wars franchise when they walk in and sit down in the theater, they know it's not real. But for the two or two and a half hours. They wanna be so immersed in it that they believe for that timeframe, it's real or I guess more. So. Don't think about the fact that it's not real. And that's how I kinda like and my job is during the time. You're watching my portion whether it's was play by play or interviews. I wanted the viewer not to think about the fact that might not be real. Exactly. And gene and his approach which was different. Also didn't do anything to make it not seem real. But he had that he was in that that that special place that no other interviewer that I can think of occupied which was being able to be a personality, and and knowing it and not holding back on it. But also knowing where that line was I would say he was more artful and his peak years just like Bobby Heenan were in the Awa, and I actually thought in the WF in this is this is a Vince McMahon tone of the era. Not mean, gene, you know, deciding or losing his his sweet spot that he found in the Awa..

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

04:35 min | 1 year ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"He was a salesman at the old WTC N channel eleven studios. And you know, we had a great, you know personality, and he was emergency fill in. And I mean was was a natural right? From the start. When when you when gene was giving you tips and you're working with him. What are some of the specific things that that you remember him helping you with in terms of the pacing the timing not stealing the scene. But also looking like, you're listening, which is such an art. Well, a line of it was more. Remember when your when when the talent is talking don't forget that you need to look at the camera. And even he had said when guys are really good talkers, let them talk. When guys aren't so good. You're going to need to to help them. And it he it it really wasn't so much trying to shape me. But he would say, you know, what on an interview remember when this happened? Now, you kind of did this and think about how better it might have been if you had done that. So it it it wasn't from a critical standpoint. And then really the the I mean, I I knew it myself, and as you said Jean was larger than life and really. The interviews when gene was doing it became both about the wrestlers. He was interviewing and himself. And when he suddenly left the best advice, I got came from blackjack Lanza and Jackson. Look, you you're following, gene. But don't be try and be, gene. You've gotta be yourself. And do it the way you would do it. And I had a chance and talked at length with gene with blackjack with Bobby with Nick. And I knew that I didn't have the. It wasn't my personality to over involve myself the way gene, did and kinda really took the interview process to to a whole new level. And I kind of made up my mind that especially with great talkers like Nick, and Bobby and the crusher that once they got going. Unless they needed me to interject. I I was going to just let them go that I always kind of had the philosophy when I took over that I needed to make it all about the talent. And my I guess way of trying to differentiate myself a little bit from gene was to be totally serious focused. And again, this was during the the K fehb era to make it as legitimate and serious as I could. And in fact, you know, eventually, I kinda got away from it. But I use the philosophy weighed that when especially the big name talent would kind of get on a roll. Unless they would say something really over the top one way or another. I purposely tried to to not react because I knew and rightfully so when I would watch interviews with, gene. I'm sure you did. And the fans did you would watch gene as much as you did the wrestlers. So I tried to purposely not react as much to make sure the viewer kept their focus on the wrestler. Remember.

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

05:31 min | 1 year ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"Hi, Ken rats, Nick now. Join me is a veteran Awa and WWF announcer. Ken good to have you back on the podcast today. My pleasure. Wade good to talk you. I just wish it was for a little better circumstances. Yeah. Well, let's let's make this a celebration of what Gino Kurland meant to wrestling fans, but also a realistic look at at what the man was like behind the scenes to work with and there's almost like a lot of people are focused on obviously his WWF days and even hosting tea and Tuesday night titans at the end of that shows, Ron and then WCW that's natural. That's where he had the largest national audience. But you have a tremendous insight. First person insight into gene Oakland in his. Awa days too in the sense that you were his replacement you add to fill some pretty big shoes. When gene went to the WWF. So I guess my first question for you is is what was your first exposure to gene as you're and talk about that a little bit. And then also your first interaction with him on a professional level, obviously being from Minnesota like gene was in living here. My first exposure as a wrestling fan and viewer was watching him on the Awa and even back, then I mean, he brought a different look to to the interviews. I mean, he he was more involved himself as a personality, and and was fun to watch. And then my first. Time meeting him was when Verne hired me I been doing sports for an NBC affiliate and met at a actually a celebrity golf and tennis charity tournament, and he called me later we had lunch. And that's when he hired me. So I was initially hired just to work with gene being the office kind of take some of the the interview load off of him because as you well know in those days every interview was markets Pacific. Unlike today, so on a interview day, you sometimes would have, you know, fifty or sixty interviews you had to do. So I it was very cordial gene tried to give me a lot of tips. And I kinda broke in doing some. Of the smaller markets, and gene was very good. You know, afterwards critiquing what I did. And and giving me tips, but in a trying to be very helpful way. And then it was just a very short time later when he just told Vern he was done and was going to WWF. So then all of a sudden, I was V guy and and doing all of them. You this is mostly about, gene. But I gotta ask you this about you. Or that had in this is in a way potentially about Jean that at the feel big pressure. I know gene had to feel big pressure replacing Mario O'Neill. And gene was beloved. I was at the age where Jeanne was I wasn't the adults who missed Mario Neil. And thought gene was this over the top carnival Barker like some of the people of of the Martin O'Neill generation thought he was my voice and face of the Awa he was the guy who interacted brilliantly on interviews with wrestlers. He's the one who made me beg my mom to take me to wrestling shows before she she even could fathom doing such a thing. And understood what this thing was all about. There's my generation then saw you show up, and we're like who's this guy with the mustache? How how did you feel about that? You're right there were huge shoes to fill and I was still learning on the job. And suddenly there was no more time for a learning curve. But I was so incredibly lucky that I had been around enough where I got such a amazing help and guidance. I mean, just think about being able to learn from the likes of of blackjack Lanza, and Bobby Heenan and Nick Bach winkle and the crusher, and luckily I had been around enough where they were trying to help me already knowing me, and with my, you know, best interest in as a side note. I'm sure you're aware of the story, but you know, Jean was. As like an emergency replacement for Mario Neil when there was a sag strike and Mario Neal is a member of sag after and couldn't be on air talent. And they knew gene a little bit..

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"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

03:14 min | 1 year ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

"The Wade Keller pro wrestling podcast. It's done for Wade's interview with one of pro wrestling's newsmakers. When pro wrestling I caught my eye as a kid. I was probably run nine years old maybe eight there was a not quite bowling gentlemen, yet with the moustache who held a microphone and interviewed all of these large in the life wrestlers who did not cut promos because that wasn't a thing when I became a fan. The term promo was an interview they were interviewed by this gentleman mean Jean Oakland who conveyed an every man quality to himself with that proper intimidation and respect and at times come rotary with these professional wrestlers, these tough athletes that he was interviewing about their next big fight and his name was gene Oakland, Jesse Ventura dubbed him mean Jean Oakland hokey. Ghan made that Monica even more famous and gene was the face and the voice of my early years watching professional wrestling, gene, Oakland had his best years. I would argue he was most well suited in a best fit in his role in the Awa where he spent the seventies and early eighties. The longest stretch of his career. The most the largest body of work is by far what he did in Awa more than what he would later do for the WWF and WCW, but he is an icon. His death has received mainstream coverage that seems to be on the level of what say dusty Rhodes received which I thought was on the higher end of expectations for dusty. And also for me, gene. And and I'm saddened by his death. He's seventy six years old had a kidney replacement, and and health issues where people who are around him recently, kind of new things things had turned into a struggle for him. But boy did he live a a a life of of big big travels in into progressing industry hitting all three of the big major brands. The Awa was part of the big three. It was the largest geographical territory from the sixties through the eighties, and then jump to the WWF when Vince McMahon paid paid a lot of people who work for the Awa to come work for him at a time when he looked at that vast territory of Awa as a key to his success with national expansion Jesse Ventura hulk HOGAN, Dr David Schultz, Bobby Heenan on and on. I mean, it was the the wrestlers that he plucked from Awa was a major major factor in his early success. And then he would go on to be part of w w nitro years giving WCW some of that that look and feel familiarity to fans who had otherwise primarily watched the WWF perceive that as a major league, so Gino. Lynn dead this week at age seventy six and on today's Wade Keller. Pro wrestling podcast.

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"ken resnick" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast

Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast

03:41 min | 2 years ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast

"Or else you're pissing me off. Why are you calling me text me? So but back then I would call wrestlers and ham. Wade Keller read you the person towards newsletter. Don't if you've heard of it. But we do interviews. I'd love to have a half hour RV type and did interviews that way or they go. I don't want to do an interview. But can I tell you something off record? I I know what you're like. So sources got created that way. Wow. I mean, that's why. Yeah. I mean that that's amazing. Now was there who are some of the people that you would call up and they'd go. No. I know what you're doing get the hell out of my face. You had to be out of your mind. If you think that I'm going to contribute to this nonsense. Oh, good question. It's funny. I didn't I I got to say this. I got I had a good sense of who probably would not be receptive rent. Probably was wise enough or steered away from calling them that said one of my one of my strategies, I'll call it in retrospect, but it was it was had other purposes to I would do summer annuals. I did your end yearbooks. And then I did summer annuals. So besides the newsletter every week I put together books, which I need to reissue one of these days, but they've been out of print for like twenty five years, but I would do themes. So I'd have the summer annual. And I had the of Lucien of wrestling in my goal was with that to talk to people who normally wouldn't think of talking to a dirt sheet or newsletter. But I'd say I I would get one name who was an older legend and old school to agree. Then I'd use that to leverage getting more people to joy. And so in the summer annuals, I did the pollution wrestling, and I've talked to ROY shires and Liu says and Jerry Lawler JR. And so. So I talked to a bunch of old kind of old timers, and and get them to talk about what they had. And I wanted to learn I mean, it wasn't like just a Mark up ruthless marketing stretchy, I really wanted to learn I wanted to talk to these older names. They hadn't talked at length about the business. There wasn't book writing weren't podcasts. So I saw it as an opportunity to get some insight from them and get it imprinted on record for history. So that was a way that I people like Jerry Lawler who then was very old school in would have said, no. But I said of Jerry, I've got this guy in this guy, and this guy, and I think you belong in the group with right names. And Jerry is like all right. And then it went well, and I did my homework, and I approached in and away. We're then people were willing to talk to me and said, hey, this this this kid series. But what he's doing? I'm going to respect his effort and persistence and good questions and do that. And I did a theme of announcing. So it was a big deal. But I got Jim Ross in Lance Russell. Ken resnick. I think was in that book. So I I interviewed Macara she was a Awa ring announcer in a long time. Indy wrestling, and I got a bunch of announcers to do interviews with me because they didn't want to be left out of the announcer book. You know, bright, of course media. Yeah. So that's an approach that I took. And then that led in some cases to to people who would be willing to talk to me or point me in the right direction to talk to other people to develop sources and gather news, and then marketing wise wasn't just handing out because I know USA too. Yeah. It was just handing out issues in front of arenas. But I did a lot of that. Especially in hardcore WWE markets where it w fans were different back, then and WWE fans were much more likely to be into the insider wrestling because it was RIC flair and the four horsemen in the midnight express and cornet as opposed to the it was sort of the enemy the hardcore fan than the WWF which HOGAN and undertaker. Oh my God. That's just a cartoon character. It's the right now. But I was the first one to take out full page advertisements in the newsstand, wrestling magazines, which was controversial even among insider fans going you can't open up that world to the marks..

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"ken resnick" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

04:55 min | 2 years ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"And I actually was part of the mid south NWEA co promotion show back in the day. And it was when we first taken over the merchandising for mid south sports in we're my shit. Osh word. I saw Leach ten thousand people out there where Duke Duke t shirts dateable bridge pitcher dot com, and I want to know where to heal back. I swear to God not people can't his people count. At least six thousand shirts were sold that night. I don't even think we had three hundred shirts that had ever been ordered much less. But anyway, that was reunion arena reunion had a lot of history was a cool building there in Dallas not as much history as the old sport a him. But it's still had that history for the those great Christmas nights for the Dallas territory. So let's talk about this show. There's lots of shenanigans here. Venus would beat Steve Blackman. When Terry's hitting Venus, you know down there own heart would team with the blue blazer to attack. Steve Blackman, there'd be a three way with Jesse James Marsh and dealer Brown. Mankind. Got a makeover. This is an interesting skit here. Chat me up about these mankind skits here where he gets a makeover. And we see the facial hair. Go bye-bye. God damnit, let's clean them up. And that was Vince McMahon deal to wanted to have him go through the whole beauty treatment. I believe he got he got his manicure and everything and what are they doing my nails events. It was just good entertaining things to extend that character make him. Not so vile in a little more human. No one knows anybody with without beard. Beards are gross. Tell me that's a direct quote. Oh, yeah. Back in the day. All right. Like for announcers and things like that. You could have no facial hair. Now, you're gonna say, gene, Oakland, gene. Oakland was the only one that had facial hair. Ken Resnick came in for an interview and Bensaid pal. I like it. But the mustache gotta go. And he said, no promise thence reach in is desk and slid his razor across the desk. To cannon Ken shaved his mustache off invents his office. Michael Hayes had a beard out damn pal. Gotta go. Dave Dave day. It went he kept his moustache. He got to keep his mustache. But that beard went. So disgusting. How did I manage to be on WB network since I'm fat ass with a beard? You just never watch it. Well, hunters got a beard now. So it's okay. Okay. All right. Let's I like a lot more now actually Golda wrestles Jarrett here interiors tears gonna come out and dressed as Marlena but gold us blows her off and ever-wise up distracting goal thus. And this allows Jarrett hit him with the Qatar. Of course, they get it to Hugh, and then they go to the back where the doing a rock interview and the blue blazer attacks coaldust, so lots of shenanigans going on the show again, we get a false count anywhere match with hardcore title, which we talked about before with mankind. Beating Ken shamrock here and boss man under orders from the man costs, Ken shamrock, the match Austin, boss, man, have an argument. And then how about this for highlight? Tiger Ali Singh is on this show and beats our snow and snow is wrestling Babu and gave him a snow plow and then Deborah stole head and was rubbing his face against her which distracted snow and that allowed saying they had a face BUSTER. And he pinned out snow in two minutes and twenty one seconds talk about job squad losing to tiger fucking Ali thing. That's in the book about ideas. Is it not? Well, at least made it to the tournament. That's all I got say about that. They do. Thanks for participating Kane. An edge go to a d-, Hugh here, you can imagine what's going to happen. There's going to be some shenanigans. But these involve gasoline and a fucking blow torch Kane comes out with and Christian again grill attack Kane, and eventually choke slams all around haircuts gasoline on all of them is about to light a match and set them on fire and the ref tries to stop him, but he gets choke slammed..

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"ken resnick" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

05:39 min | 2 years ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"Com slash taxreform Ken Resnick advisory assurance tax this story. Here in the United, States then futures a positive five weeks of gains things seemed to. Be okay. Over in China not okay the mainland equities declined today snuffing out earlier gains its concern of trade friction with the United States continues to other shadow any. Move by China to support its currency to weigh in on place decide this still with me is Bloomberg's very undermined Bostick and Luke. Carrots well look a now you've been. Looking at this yeah no just something that kind of caught my eye this this morning so I've been trying to look at. Different volatility measures and. The aftermath, of. Kind of China's move to make short in the u. and more more expensive And one thing that kind of caught my eyes for the first time on. Record, a. Couple of. Days ago the one. Month implied volatility of the of the UN versus the the one month implied volatility. Of the euro you on volatility? Is is now hire some might think. Well hasn't been higher always you know China higher. Beta currency emerging market that kind of. Thing but remember they've also had kind, of a managed float, against the dollar and. It's been kind of clear that Chinese authorities, don't really. Have the appetite for a. Lot of volatility and. Large moves briskly and one direction or the other so the fact that we now have trays expecting more swings of the UN than the euro. Over the next month is something very telling to me and the top. And, in the context of well at first everyone? Was, getting, new very bearish on the UN but now it's very much. A two-way trading thing so the implied volatility of both puts and calls has surged so that's a sign of demand for both so it's this is how You make a market at some people thinking well you know this, is just a way for trying to show that they are internationalizing a bit this is the direction the currency should be going to it'll continue to head in that direction and other people going no Beijing's going to, slam on the brakes and this is the end of the weakness China remind six eighty. Five something I'm trying to get my hands, around this morning after Friday's move, to, essentially flush out some, of the, shorts is, that if you wanted, to short China is. There a better proxy for it other than the currency because quite clearly periodically there's going to be times when the authorities either upset with the pace of the decline or perhaps the absolute level step in and try to flush out. The shorts again so when you think about things how do you short China what are people saying Well I I don't know if there's really a better way to do it I it certainly a, risky bet, at this point but, look I mean when you, look at what's happened over the past eight or. Nine weeks with the one it's very clear that the PBC. Really isn't doing much now we can speculate. About the reasons for them I'm, not doing anything but this is a market that's pretty much in. A free float at least by by Chinese standards. And if, you're a, trader right now you can take advantage of this now do you do you want to, stand in front of this trade as a short for too long now I mean we've seen what happened In the past few. Years in two thousand seventeen and twenty fifteen and back and beyond so you definitely don't want to stand there too long but right now this is probably the best short you're going to get. Everyone is drawing your conclusion that Chinese. On standing in, the way which makes the farm reserve story, lights this week on the more interesting. Luke because what if we find out. FX reserves have declined by whole lot, more than people thought and the actually the Chinese have been trying to prop. This up and it's just not been working that'll scare the heck out of. People, and so far what's been absent kind of in this story it's the story has been very benign this has been your trade were aside this, has been natural slowing of China strength, of US playing catch up against EM currencies that it had been strong you can, paint a lot of reasonable reasons, why the crunchies had its move however if it if it's a move that has been accompanied by. Flows that China is very much trying, to push back and fight against Donald, completely flipped the narrative on this and we'll we'll surgery get some freak outs that will extend not? Just. A Chinese, risk assets but also Compare I've my, shoulder and look at the Bloomberg terminal so he knows what's on my terminal. Right now in the China I'm looking at remind Luke says it's benign nine. Percent, move in three or four months in in a currency pad belly ever moves by much and they given single day nine percents of big move, yeah it's a huge move I mean, look we're down eight straight weekly losses over typically down fifteen in the past eighteen, weeks here When you know when. You start to look at that you look at the one month forwards, and you and you look at just how cheap it's gotten not only, cheap in terms of buying it but also just how cheap it is short right now it really does make. You wonder what's going on behind closed doors I look brings up a good point I mean we get this reserves data if it does show what. I, think a lot of people have been speculating I would really watch? Out? Not just not just for that particular pair but, for a lot of the other currency pairs out there as well, which I've sort of been trading, on the, periphery around the week one which brings us to the final question I. Guess FX reserves is one thing to watch in the week ahead to get a. Point, from either of you. To wrap, up, this particular segment look what is the one thing to watch for you guys this week For for me I am interested to see the market response to the us inflation data we, could see something that is a three handle on headline. Core will look more well behaved and kind of in line with. What you think the fence target is. But if, we remember back to February if there was a macro catalyst it was the idea that inflation was taking. Off and we were going to get a much more aggressive fed in, response so perfect storm of us worrying about China and us worrying about, inflation this could be a crazy week if we do get that in an inflation surprise again guys he's been. 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"ken resnick" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

02:30 min | 2 years ago

"ken resnick" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

"Joshua was that i wanna cham rock leave the wwf ken wanted to go back to 'em may fighting and ken wanted to felt that he was still young enough can like guess what brock may be doing here coming up soon ken felt that he wanted to fight some morning wanted to get back in the octagon and prove that he wasn't washed up and that was cans passion ken loved to be in the octagon fighting here's a fun one hair from our ship stacey donna my kids book had a passage where vince told him off once for not shaving and he says a log my baby faces to be clean shaven so our stacey wants to know when macho man turned face was there any conversation with him advance about changing as look to get rid of the trademark beard no there wasn't however do you remember ken resnick who was the interview guy after oakland and in while gene was still there ken resnick was the interview man for verne ghana's awa before coming to the wwe he interviewed with thence in stanford and then stalled amigos e you're higher but that mustaches gotta go and ken said okay invincible is razor out of his desk in next thing you heard was in ken came out clean shaven so yeah vince vince wasn't a big one on facial hair at all why does the why does that happen for him and not a mangino carlin because jane was first and that was i think a part of genes look look man i can go back to ed cohen who was the the guy that book the arenas for the building and cohen came into vincent's office at the cape cod coliseum early on when vince was hiring people for the company and cohen came in with a he had a beer leather jacket in a hot blonde on his arm and thence told him he goes all right you're higher but two of the three gotta go in vince was referring to the leather jacket in the beard cohen got rid of the leather jacket and the and the girl and kept the beard bits eventually got the beard off of him and had gotta keep his mustache but then it's not a big one facial hair.

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