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A highlight from A Dame Trade Deep Dive With Ben Thompson, Plus Seth Meyers and Million-Dollar Picks
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We did the big chill. It was very, very exciting. I have Kyle Brandt coming on Monday's podcast. I'm just gonna tell you the movie now because it is gonna be the best moment of your weekend if you spent two hours watching this classic. We're doing Toy Soldiers. It really brings everything possible to the table. So if you wanna watch it ahead of time, there it is. That podcast is going up Monday night. If you wanna hear stuff about the debate, we have Tara Paul and Mary's podcast, Somebody's Gotta Win. That reacted to it as well as the press box with Brian Curtis and David Shoemaker. So there you go. Our debate coverage has been on point. Also, higher learning. Van and Rachel had Larry Elder on this weekend. It made a lot of noise, man. That podcast is great. I hope you check that out as well. Hope you're checking out theringer .com. And on this podcast, gonna talk about the dame trade at the top. We're gonna bring in Ben Thompson from the Techery newsletter, which he's been on this podcast I think four weeks ago. And he's a huge Bucks fan. He's gonna give the Bucks fan side of things. We're gonna do million dollar picks. And then old friend Seth Meyers talking about a whole bunch of stuff. So really good podcast. It's all next. First, our friends from Pro Jam. What's up? All right, I'm taping this on Thursday afternoon. Normally when there's a big MBA trade, I always do the emergency trade reaction right after the podcast. But we just put up a podcast on Tuesday. So I decided to play it a little differently this time. I wanted a little distance, I wanted to listen to stuff, read stuff, and try to form some big picture opinions coming out of this. So I have four smaller ones, then one big one. First one, I thought Portland did an incredible job with this trade. I really liked this trade, especially everyone was trying to bully them in June and July about, oh, you got to take Miami's offer. You just got to. It's where he wants to go. It's the only offer you're going to get. And guess what? They waited. They played it perfectly. They stared Miami down, and they got a much better deal. First of all, they get the Drew Holiday piece that they can flip into a bunch out of their stuff, which we'll talk about in one second. I love the DeAndre Ayton gamble. As you know, on this podcast, I am a big DeAndre Ayton guy. Not in the sense of I'm the biggest fan of his in the world, but I'm a fan of the asset. I just think I love the valued assets, no matter what it is. Whatever market we're talking about, DeAndre Ayton, 18 and 10 for his career, 60 % field goals percentage, 25 years old. He's played in 45 playoff games. He played four rounds in the 2021 finals. Last year, he got his ass kicked by Jokic. Oh, sorry. Like, that never happens. And Phoenix just sold on him, which I can't wait to talk about. But just from a Portland standpoint, they not only get Ayton in whatever they get for holiday, they get the 29 first, they get the two swaps, and they dump Nurkic. Nurkic hasn't had a healthy start to finish all the way through the playoffs here since 2018, which I'm positive was a long time ago. He's basically 12 and 8. He's, you know, a 50 % shooter. I made a list of the top 30 centers. I encourage you to do this at home, because what's more fun than making lists of NBA centers? I can't imagine anything. I made a list of who I thought were the best assets of the center position for talent, contract, everything. He was 29th on my list. The only person I had ahead of him who's technically a starter, unless you start talking about the Detroit or Charlotte guys, was Zubats on the Clippers. I thought he was the 29th best center asset in the league. And Phoenix, you know, just quickly to go to them, they're trying to win this year. They got worse. They turned Ayton's money into Nurkic and Grayson Allen and Nasir Little. Grayson Allen, we already know with him, he can't play in playoff series. We saw him 22. We saw it last year. I heard and read in some places like that, I got two rotation players. Did they? Is Nurkic a playoff rotation player? Is Grayson Allen a playoff rotation player? Because I'm positive he's not. So for the same money that they were spending on Ayton, they got three guys that I don't think are going to help them. In 25, the money comes down a little bit to 23 million just for Nurkic and Little, which is 7 million less than Ayton. And then in 26, that money goes up to 25 .5. But I don't understand what Phoenix was doing. Why not wait to see if Ayton clicks with Vogel? Vogel has such a good history with centers. He rejuvenated Dwight Howard on the 2020 Lakers. He basically created Roy Hibbert's career in 2013 with the defense verticality thing. I thought he was going to do a good job with Ayton. I'm stunned that they gave up on him. I'm almost waiting for one of those, now they tell us stories when, you know, that's where Brian Curtis calls them, where like a week after something happens, there's this kind of notebook dump where it's like, here's seven terrible DeAndre Ayton stories. So maybe that'll happen. But for Phoenix just to be like, cool, we locked this down, man. We got Nurkic. You're trying to win the title. You have KD and Booker and Beal. And like, what are you guys doing? Anyway, from Portland's standpoint, I love the Ayton thing. I love that they didn't get bullied. And I know they're going to turn Drew Holliday into something. So this to me was at least an A minus for them, for where they were two months ago, where Dave's like, I want to go to Miami. That's it. And if you don't trade me there, that's kind of fucked up. And they made this work as it got reported that, uh, I think in the athletic, that he expanded his list to Brooklyn and to Milwaukee in the last two weeks. And that's what Portland was waiting on. You know, they were banking on the fact that he's a competitive dude. He's one of the best 75 pairs ever. He wanted a situation settled. So, you know, you wait, you wait, you wait, they expand the list and then you go. Uh, there's a Drew Holliday piece to this. That's awesome. He becomes a contender prize. I wouldn't call this a Drew Holliday sweepstakes. I reserved sweepstakes for the superstars, but it's a mini sweepstakes. This is somebody that could have a huge impact on the playoff race. You know, not only the usual suspects, everybody's talking about Boston, ironically, Miami is a really good fit for him. And in some ways, um, I'm a little more scared of them with Miami than Dame in some ways, especially at a much cheaper contract with giving up less and keeping some of their assets. Philly, if they could pull it off, they have to be in there in Golden State, Minnesota. I think I have to mention Sacramento, I think is a team that if they could figure out how to get Drew without giving up their core, which is basically Keegan Murray and Sabonis and Fox, like that's, you know, could Davion Mitchell be in that trade with some, with a salary and some picks, who knows. The team that I love for Drew Holliday is OKC. I have OKC, you know, I started doing my MBA research for the over -under spot and I haven't landed on a number for them yet, but to me, they feel like a high forties team with Chet and with the growth of their young guys. And if you just like, let's say they traded Lou Dort and a bunch of their picks, maybe two firsts and two of their lesser picks or three firsts and a second, whatever it is. And they just say, fuck it. And they get Drew and you put him with Giddy and SGA and Jalen fucking awesome Williams and Chet Holmgren and all these other dudes they have, that might be a top three team in the West. I mean, that, that's starting to give me some early 2010s OKC vibes. So where he goes is going to be important. I just feel like there was so much Drew Holliday slander the last couple of days. You know, he's one of my favorite players. Even Haralabob, who was the chairman of the board of the Drew Holliday fan club for years and would have the benefit dinners there and, you know, just did a lot of yeoman's work on that front. And even he was like, yeah, yeah, Dame's better than Drew. That trade makes sense for Milwaukee. I was hurt, Haralabob. I was 100 % hurt by that. But you know, Drew got his ass kicked by Jimmy Butler in the playoffs last year. I get it. It happens. Jimmy was unbelievable. I feel like he would have kicked anybody's ass. By the way, why is Drew Holliday guarding Jimmy Butler? That speaks more to some of the issues with Milwaukee. He was never supposed to be a point guard and a creator. I think he was always better as an off -the -ball guy. We saw that with Rondo and New Orleans and just in general. I want to see him with a point guard. I want to see him just being unleashed, not having the ball a lot, just worrying about hitting threes, being an occasional, you know, make -shit -happen guy and being like the third or fourth best guy on a team without having the offensive responsibility to have. All their half court issues got blamed on him for the last couple of years. And I get it. They weren't like an awesome half -court team, even the other one in the finals, but I really value that dude. I had him, even I did the trade value list in August and I had him 37th and I had Dame 23rd. I think he's one of the best 30 players in the league still. He's 33 years old, which, you know, I'm going to talk in a second about when guards hit their mid -30s, but just in general, I think he's a real asset. If he goes to a team like the Celtics and they can keep Derek White and Tatum and Brown in the center, it's like, look out, man. So little mini sweepstakes, rarely do we get the trade, but then we still get another asset to talk about. Thank you for everyone involved in the trade. And then the fourth small point is just that, you know, not rocket science, Milwaukee bought some Giannis time here. They have one of the best 20 players of all time. They were staring down the barrel of a situation that was not good. I was talking about it on this podcast in late June and early July. I thought he was going to put them on the clock. I thought Mark Lasry selling his stake was a really bad sign for all of this because that dude is smart. As I laid out in June, that guy is really smart. And if he's feeling like, you know what, it's time for me to sell my buck stock, that makes me nervous. And then all the stuff that Giannis said and did, which I thought he did really fairly and really smartly. And I think that dude's about titles and that's it. And I know we say that about players, but I think in his case, I don't think he cares about, you know, what's my legacy, how do I compare against Dirk DeWhisky, any of that stuff. I just think he wants more rings. I mean, think about the guys who have won two rings out of the best 35 guys on my list of my pyramid. Those are all guys in my top 35 that won multiple wings. You go to the one -ring side, Jerry West, Oscar, Moses, Dirk, Jokic, Giannis, Pettit, Garnett, Kawhi, Rick Barry. That's the list he's on now. I certainly don't think he's looking at that list going, I got to get away from these guys, but it's a slightly different list. I think when you win multiple rings in multiple situations, it elevates you in a certain way. I think he fundamentally understands that at least a little bit. I want to be the best player since LeBron James. I think that's a thing that he wants. How am I going to do that? I need more rings. I need more finals trips. He knew from last year and maybe even the Boston series that they just weren't good enough. Whether this trade is going to be the thing that propels them, we'll find out, but he's been in the league 10 years, two MVPs, five first teams, two second teams, and now we have this little two -year window. Kawhi and the Raptors was a one -year window. This is a two -year window, I feel like. With Giannis, he's got two years left in his deals. So does Lopez. Middleton has two in a player option. Dame's got two, and then this crazy $120 million player option extension thingy that he has that just keeps going and going. It's probably two years. There's a world where this could go terribly this season, at least for what the expectations are, and then maybe it becomes Kawhi, Raptors. Maybe Giannis is like, you know what? That didn't work. Trade me. And the Bucks, who have no picks left and no future, they look at it next summer, and they go, all right. We tried it. Giannis, what can we get for you? Dame, what can we get? And they just do a reboot, rehaul. Remember, they won in 2021, which just takes so much pressure out of this. It's so much different than the Clippers situation, where they went all in on Kawhi and Paul George. They give up all those picks and SGA, and they've gotten nothing out of it. They haven't even made the finals. So it's got to happen. I think they at least probably have to make the finals. If they get bounced in round two, do I think Giannis is going to stay because they made this Dame -Mower trade? Probably not. So that leads to the big question, is how good of a trade was this? So there's a big picture angle on Dame, and it's going to sound negative, but I really don't want it to sound negative because I think Dame, I voted for him for NBA Top 75. I think he's been one of the best guards in the last 15 years. I think there's a ton of great things you can say, and there's a chance that he goes to Milwaukee, and this thing is fucking awesome. I know any Celtic fan I've talked to, including Isaiah, who's helping produce this podcast today, the Giannis -Dame pick and roll is just terrifying. Other than Jokic and Murray, it's going to be the single most unstoppable offensive play in the league. It is. We are conceding that point. The spot Dame is in right now, big picture -wise, it's weird. He's a superstar, but he's not, and we've seen guys like this before. I judge superstars by, do you have the resume statistically, and is your team succeeding consistently at a certain level? You can't totally say that about Dame. He's never been on a 55 -win team. He's missed the playoffs completely four times in 11 years. He said three first -round exits. He made the Final Four once in 2019, which was really lucky because Golden State and Houston were the two best teams, and then they got smoked. He's never been on a true contender ever. Instinctively, you go, well, that's not his fault. Who's he played with? Well, he played with LaMarcus Aldridge and CJ McCollum and a couple other guys, but not really anybody. The reason I'm putting this up is there's a success element that he has not had yet that for somebody with his resume is actually kind of unusual. I went and I looked up how many guards in the history of the league averaged 22 points a game for their career and played at least 700 games. I thought the list would be like 20. I didn't know. I didn't know what I was walking into. Only I think 75 guys have averaged 22 a game. So I went and I looked up the list, and it was 10 guys, 700 games, 22 a game for their career. There were some guys who came close like David Thompson, who I think is one of the best guards I've seen in the last 45 years, but had a short career and had some drug issues. He didn't make it. He didn't play enough games. Pete Maravich, 24 .2 points a game, but he didn't play enough games. Kyrie hasn't played enough games yet. Bradley Beale is five games away. I'm actually kind of glad the cutoff's at 700 so we don't have to talk about him. And then Mitchell and Trey Young aren't there yet. There's only 10 guys that made it, and the 10 guys are all fucking awesome. And again, I mentioned this in the context of Dame, who we think he is versus the success he's had. So the 10 guys, Michael Jordan, 30 .1, Jerry West, 27 .1, Allen Averson, 26 .7, George Gervin, 26 .2, Oscar Robertson, 25 .7, Kobe, 25 .0, Harden, 24 .7, Curry, 24 .6, Wade, 22, barely made it, and Russ, 22 .4, and then Dame is at 25 again. All right, what does he not have that those other guys have? Well, MJ, don't need to talk about him. Don't need to talk about Jerry West, who's the freaking logo. Allen Averson, pretty good comparison, right? Big stats, really memorable player, but not a ton of success. Here's the difference. Averson made the finals once. He won an MVP. Dame has done neither of those things. George Gervin was the best scoring guard of the 70s. He made two final fours. He had some bad luck. He really, in 79, really should have came close. And some of it's on him, right? He could have come through. Bobby Dandridge is the one that ended up coming through for the Bullets. They lose. But two final fours, he had four top five MVP finishes, five first teams, four second teams. He was just unassailably the best guard in the league until MJ. Oscar Robertson, don't need to go through him, but he won a ring and an MVP. Kobe, five rings and an MVP. Eleven first teams for Kobe, by the way. James Harden, three final fours, an MVP, six top five MVP finishes, six first team MBAs. And even though Harden has never made the finals as the best guy, he made it with OKC as the sixth man, you could build a contender around Harden. We saw it. We haven't really seen it with Dame. I think that's a fair thing to bring up. Curry, four rings, two MVPs, you know, the Curry thing. Dwayne Wade, three rings, two top five MVPs, two first teams, three second teams. He's more in the Dame waters a little bit, but he had the 2006 finals and he was the second best guy with LeBron on those heat teams. And then Westbrook, who you would say, well, Dame had a better career than Westbrook. Did he? Westbrook made the finals in 2012. He was second best guy on that team. Almost made the finals in 2016. He won an MVP. He had two first teams and five second teams. It's at least like a real argument. And I think when you look at Dame, he only had that one 2019 round three, got bounced. He's only had one top five MVP finish. He's only had one first team MBA and four second team MBAs. Really, really good top 75 career. But the piece that's missing is, have you been on a really good team? Have you made a real run at it? Which is why, you know, I think this Milwaukee trade is so much fun. This is his real chance. I get nervous about a couple things with this trade. One is that, you know, if you look at the 33 and older guards who average 22 points a game in a season. Jordan did it twice. Curry did it twice. Still going. Kobe did it three times. Jerry West twice. Sam Jones once. Hal Greer once. That's the entire list. Now the NBA is different. We have more three -pointers now. It's easier to score. Scoring is the easiest it's ever been. Guys can play at a longer age. So I'm not ruling out Dane being good for the next three years. But just pointing out, history is saying, be a little nervous. In general with guards, like Chris Paul, we saw from age 35 to 36 to 37, like it just dropped. But that's two years older than Dane. Maybe it's fine. I just worry about guards. We have not a lot of instances with guards in their mid -30s of them either peaking as players or being able to sustain whatever success they had during their prime. It always starts to go down with really no exceptions, except for Steph Curry. He's the only non -exception. So if your case is Dane's as good as Steph Curry, or Dane can be as potent as Steph Curry on a winning team, like, you know, Steph Curry is better than Dane, but I'm not going to argue that he couldn't do a lot of the stuff that Curry did in Golden State. The bigger issue for me, the age I'm definitely worried about. Dane has not been healthy the last couple of years, and we have not seen him play nine straight months at playoff basketball with a big bullseye on his back. Everybody coming after you, you're the best team. We haven't seen him do that ever, much less than the last couple of seasons. So can he stay up? Can he stay healthy? That's one thing. The defense with Dane just got kind of swept under the rug the last couple days, and I don't really understand it because there's five categories of defensive player I feel like. There's excellent, there's good, there's average, there's not so good, and then there's bad. And I think Dane's a bad defender. I think the stats back it up. Like, his defensive rating last year was 245 out of the guards. He's the 245th guard for defensive rating. You know, 117 .4 individual defensive rating is 483 overall. Portland's team's always defensively, it was the Achilles heel for them. Partly because of Dane, because he couldn't guard anybody. He's too small. And, you know, think about what we saw from the playoffs the last couple years. I think about the 2020 bubble Celtics playoffs, not infrequently, because I think that team had a chance to potentially win a title. What happened? Everyone hunted Kemba Walker. It was hunting season. It's like, where is he? Got to get a switch. Got to get Kemba Walker guarding somebody who's bigger, or got to beat him off the dribble, and it just became a hunt session with him. And basically, he got played out of the league. He's not in the league anymore. You know, we had this with Isaiah Thomas, too, in the mid -2010s. I think it's been an issue with Kyrie Irving. The Celtics certainly went at him in the playoff series with Brooklyn a couple years ago. Curry, you saw, who I think is a better defender than people give him credit for, but the And he's a much better defender than Dame is. Jordan Poole is somebody that got hunted in playoff series recently. Chris Paul, obviously, is a big one. Jalen Brunson, remember what the Heat did to him? Mitchell, when he was on Utah, this was a huge issue. And then Trae Young, obviously. My fear with Dame is he's a DH, and I think in Portland, part of the reasons he was able to put up the stats he did was because he wasn't playing defense, right? It was just, how many points can I score? My team isn't very good, and I'm just going to do my thing. He's an incredible offensive player. But how much of a trade -off is the defense, right? Well, you think, all right, well, Milwaukee, they're really good defensively. They'll be able to protect him. Here's the team. Giannis, Dame, Lopez, Portis, Middleton, Conaton, Beauchamp, Crowder. Who's guarding Trae Young on this team? Who's guarding Jason Tatum? Here's a partial list of guys that I don't think this team will be able to guard this season. Devin Booker, Tatum, Butler, Trae Young, Kyrie, Curry. Who's going to be chasing Curry around the screens? Dame lowered? Good luck. SGA, Luca, Mitchell, Murray, Edwards, Brunson, Ja, Garland, Fox, Halburn. Are they going to be able to cover Derek White? I don't know. The way this team is constructed, they are not going to have the ability to guard other guards at all, which means they're just going to have to be in a shooting match with them, right? It's going to be not much different than what's going to happen with Phoenix, where they're just literally going to have to outscore the other team. I've just watched too much playoff basketball over the last couple years, where it's like, if you have that weak link on defense, and you're playing a team that's smart enough, they're going to go after that weak link. Like, think about them against the Lakers, right? The Lakers figure their crunch time. Let's say they make the finals. It's Milwaukee and the Lakers, and Lakers crunch time. They're going to have LeBron and Davis and Austin Reeves and, I don't know, a shooter and a point guard, whatever. All they're going to be doing is trying to find where Dame is on the court and going after him. What about when they play Boston? Boston puts out White and Brogdon and Tatum and Brown and a center, and all they're going to be doing is trying to make sure Dame is covering somebody who has the ball who's now torturing him. I think it's a real problem for them. And what's funny is they gave up Drew's defense and, you know, they, what they gave up on defense, which is significant, and they gained an offense, it might end up just being a wash and they might just be a different version of the same team where they still have a huge flaw. It's just on the other end of the court. I'm just shocked that nobody brought up the defense. I agree he's an amazing offensive player and what's cool about this trade and what I'm excited about as a basketball fan is, can he go up a level? Right? A lot of these stats he put up, especially the last couple years. They didn't mean anything. They were, he was on bad teams. Like, who cares? Ultimately, Bradley Beal scored 30 points a game on the Wizards. Who cares? I think most really good offensive players, if they're on a bad team, can get between 25 and 30 a night. Can you do it nine months in a row? Can you do it when you're getting hunted on defense all over the place? How much can Milwaukee protect him? And what does he have in the tank at age 33 with 900 plus games on the O 'Dominor already? I'm still afraid of the Bucks, but people have, like, FanDuel had them as best odds in basketball and I think most people feel like they're the favorite now. I don't feel like there's a favorite. I think you can go through every team. Boston, I could, I'm scared of Porzingis. What's going to happen with Jalen Brown out there? He has contracts. Can Peyton Pritchard, all these different things. Philly, God only knows. Miami, they're unquestionably worse. Yeah, Milwaukee is going to be really good, but depending where Holiday lands and how this all plays out, I just think it's still wide open. And the other piece, so if you're just talking Boston, Miami, Tatum kills Milwaukee. I have no idea why. Boston is kind of built to at least stay with Dame and, you know, Derek White is about as good of a person you're going to have to try to keep Dame in check, at least. And Boston's done a really good job of guarding Giannis over the years. They don't have Grant Williams this year, but I just don't think, I think there's as many ways this goes wrong as it goes right, I guess would be my final thought on this because for what they gave up, especially with that 29 unprotected and the two swaps and, you know, they are all in on this team. And you know my theory, when you go all in on a team, you better think you can win. Not positive, but it's an awesome trade. It really is. It makes the league so much more fun. Dame and Giannis together. I'm going to enjoy watching Portland. I still have my eating stock. Watching Phoenix fans slowly realize that Derkiszna isn't the answer is going to be fun and then we'll see where Drew Holliday goes. So really fun trade. We're going to talk about it a little bit more with Die Hard Bucks fan, Ben Thompson in one second. Let's take a break.
NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"kemba" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"Opposite. Yeah, in order to get there trying to be on the road because they want Kyrie to be able to play as it is right now. They would be on the road, but it would be against Toronto and Kyrie can't play in Toronto because it's in Canada. The nets are going to be an interesting position. So we'll see how this all works out if they are able to fall all the way to ten. What happens there? Do they even want to go through the links to do that? And then what role do the hawks play in that? If you don't have John Collins, that makes it less likely that the hawks would be able to jump up and leapfrog a team like the nets or even the hornets. Yeah, I do think they're kind of stuck in that ten spot. I don't see them surpassing anybody, but they have way too much of a cushion to fall. The nets, if you're the nets, you hope that Cleveland somehow falls to 7 in Toronto moves up to 6. That would kind of help you out a lot. Yeah, there's a lot to think about with this playoff picture in the east. It's very crowded. And the John Collins injury just makes it where the hawks are saying, all right, we're tenth. This is kind of where we are. And yeah, they'd love to move up to 9 or 8, but the question is, will they have the firepower to do it in these last, you know, in the last, I think four weeks, three and a half weeks before the season ends? Yeah, it's coming up quick. Quick, it's coming up. Maybe not fast enough for the Lakers. But it's coming up pretty quick. Let's talk a little bit about Kemba Walker. Not a name that we've mentioned recently, but he is right to name anyone's business. Yeah. Not a name anyone has mentioned recently at all. Absolutely. He's been kind of out of sight out of mind for a lot of people, has been away from the team. Tom thibodeau was asked like, hey, you know, what's Kemba up to? He doesn't know. He's been away from the team, not trading with the team. She hasn't seen him. Anything like that, Kemba Walker. This is from Mark Berman in the New York Post. Kemba Walker is right now training in Charlotte. It's back home training at Charlotte, and that's led to some speculation that he might actually wind up back with the hornets next season..
NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"kemba" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"Over on Twitter. Kids, let's start with Kemba. Kemba Walker. Done for the season. And I've got a lot of people on Twitter, yourself included, say, why didn't why don't the Knicks just buy him out so he can keep playing if they've just decided, sorry, Kemba, you're going into exile. Yeah, sounds like the Knicks want to use his contract in a trade this off season, which is their only reason why they wouldn't buy him out. Yeah, it's been a disappointing to see what's happened. Thus far in this return, to New York for Kemba or I guess return home is the better way to put that. He's a Bronx native. He was everybody was super excited to see him back there. And he has played in 37 games, started all 37, but he's not really himself. He shot 40% from the field, 36% from three. So that's not too bad, but he just he can't make baskets around the room. Anymore, he can't really get to the basket 11.6 points, three rebounds, three and a half. He's been really problematic defensively inside a lot of struggles. On that end, so yeah, all around, it's just disappointing to see. Yeah, where this is gone. The wording that the Knicks used in their press release made it sound as though this was kimba's decision. Do you have a sense of that, I would imagine it's probably a mute. I can't imagine Kemba going to the Knicks and saying, hey, I don't want to play anymore this season. Yeah, I mean, my guess is they probably said, hey, we will play you occasionally off the bench. The rest of the way, Derrick Rose is supposed to be back sometime soon. We know he's going to play good about. They've also got a manual quickly who they want to get minutes for. There. But that would be my guess as they said, hey, we'll get you in games on occasion, kind of treat them like he's a 12th to 15th guy on the roster. And he probably doesn't want to do that. So at this point in his career, so it probably is one of those things where it probably was fairly mutual in that sense. So I just let me sit and we'll go from there. The reality is next season. I'm pulling it up right now. 9.2 million. That's a nice piece of salary matching to put into a trade, but it's not going to get you anything on his own. There's no way anybody's going to be interested in that for Kemba, but yeah, you get a team where they want to move a guy, you know, the Knicks have a lot of interesting options. There's soft season because you've got that. You've got Alec Burks at 10 million of them 40 80 to 18 neurons in a well at 9.2 million. That's what that kind of dipping into any of the younger guys. So we've got options there. You can kind of get to whatever number you need to if you really want to go that direction in a trade and if that's where the Knicks want to go, then I get it for keeping them on the books and having them for that. But otherwise, I don't know. I'd rather just the guy free, maybe somebody else thinks he can play a role for them the rest of the year. I think that's the unfortunate part here. We typically see teams try to do right by veterans. And I think Kevin definitely fits in that category, where if and maybe we don't know..
The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"kemba" Discussed on The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"Season with the Los Angeles Lakers had a lot to do with him, you know? Without mentioning names, there was a report saying that he was a bit selfish and that he was a bit of a locker room problem in that. Come on, man. LeBron, you all know, we know LeBron runs that camp, Ron and AD, that's their basketball game. I was thinking that I can't see an ancillary player coming in and being that disruptive to the Lakers system. I mean, come on, they can still try to sell me that would be the goods. I mean, you lost your team beat you, beat your ass, and now all of a sudden you're trying to kick shriller into the bus as if he was that piece. They did not have jump shooters. There were a lot of guys. There were a lot of times we saw LeBron James not getting back on the defensive end, or we would call Anthony Davis. I love Charles Barkley's name street clothes. You know, he wasn't available to play. So that's just not blame. That is true therefore all that. Agreed. Agreed. And even if there's a little truth to that, I'm gonna go with a guy who wants to prove to the entire NBA that he's a max guy. Give me that guy, and then on top of that, the guy who used to idolize ray.
The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"kemba" Discussed on The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"Got mini bay. Even some new idea a bad idea. All right. All right. Let's start big. Let's start with the biggest bag of them all this summer. Joel embiid. He got himself a 5 year extension supermax. 147. Million max. Yeah. Good idea, bad idea for the 76ers to give him all that money. What do you think? No, great idea. I think if you look at his production here in the last three, four years, he's been one of the top players right now in the Eastern Conference. And you think about it when they play Toronto. He was a shot away from going to the finals. So I think that that's easy, catch right now, you know, a baggage. That's what I use baggage for Joel embiid. I think that was a good choice. Yeah, agreed. Agreed. I mean, if you're Philly, at the dealing with Ben Simmons and all that, that whole fiasco. You gotta lock in somebody, right? Yeah. You gotta make sure you're top dog as happy and satisfied. You're a big dog is happy. Keep him happy. The keep him happy. And make sure you always want to come home. Doc knows better exactly. Doc knows better. All right, I'm also in Kemba Walker, going back home, the BX native is heading back to New York. Two years, $17.8 million for the max guy who former max guy rather with a self exciting two years ago, max. Good idea bad idea for the New York Knicks. I'm up in the air, and I'm up in the air because I think he's a great player, but I think that people are, their expectation level of kimber is cardiac kimber, you know, Madison Square Garden, big east, step back, movie, really, really quick. I don't know if you still has that quickness and explosive ability anymore to create as many shots and to get players confused out there when they're gardening. So I'm just my bag has.
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
Brad Stevens Explains Why Celtics Made Kemba Walker Trade
"On friday. We had a rare postseason trade with boston. Sending kemba walker. And this year's first round sixteenth overall to oklahoma city for al horford the move freeze the celtics in the final year of canvas deal saving the team about thirty two million dollars in the process. Here is how brad. Stevens explained the move on monday. We had look at with the idea of moving That first round pick this year right a gave us the opportunity to look at a A road ahead with a few more options from the financial flexibility standpoint All of our future you know. First round picks passed this year Which again gives you more options. And then you know it was the It was the best deal That we thought with regard to you know returning players. Riot i mean the idea Or the opportunity to add How do make significantly less money. But his You know a really good player that has corporate knowledge of this environment.
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"That's what these these championship teams have a good mixture of both. They don't just have well there are stars leading the way the black router you know. Like they actually do like that they do. That's exactly who they need him back. That's exactly. You have to stand Brandon Marshall, bring Jake back as well in terms of attitude. In terms of positional death he would have been perfect this year, we joke about it but it's the truth. Yeah, it is a chance to say No. And I say I just don't know if it's there is if it might not be there but that's that leadership in that Pride that brings though you do offer Consin Thompson showed more than anything that you can have a guy saying the right things and bringing that cash a but you have to be able to bring it on the court to and sit here. Like T, forget about it like he just not good enough and it didn't matter what he was doing. It room. If you bring in lower bench veterans just to replace Grant. And those type of guys Jabari, Parker it didn't matter because it wasn't doing enough. You need a guy like Kyle Lowry who's actually going to be part of your big three here. Oh, here we go. Voice in the room, but can also do it on the court, because let's be real. They just didn't have enough on the court last year, to win at the highest level. Would they have been better than they were? Absolutely, but they also did not have a core that was going to be able to compete with the top fight teams in this league. And they had so many issues when it came to that Kemba situation and log. Use on the team that they ultimately weren't going to be able to go anywhere even in a best-case scenario. So you're going to have to completely reshape this roster right now with guys that can be a voice and contribute and get along with the others in the room. They're like the, the more I think about it. We're looking at a substantial overhaul of this team, this offseason. It is only just begun. Yeah, I mean clear it out. There's not much you can do not get rid of Tristan. Yeah, Tristen Smith in Thompson. What is this that we that I see in on, I guess him. And Chloe are done again, I had to bring that up in the show. I mean, if we don't bring that up in the show. Yeah, I mean, we saw, you know, to me that's the way it's supposed to, Jimmy, Jimmy, stopped writing and her dad Thompson, and Khloe Kardashian are reportedly. Monday, done again? So interested. Let me try to slide in DMS. Yeah. Jimmy trying to shoot off of me..
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"So we haven't even had a full season of their early around election. Yeah and I think adding a lie think is a nice Kind of brick and building that Foundation, but you're, they have to do a better job of getting guys who complement those guys, they need guys, who can run the floor. They need guys, who are more athletic? What if people are struggling with them? Like playing with them with their styles, with their personalities? What if the issue people are having is with those guys? Not complimentary pieces, basketball-wise. What if you've got an issue where the you're having people that are having a tough time driving with them for or one of them, for whatever reason and I don't know that that's the case, but that's not going to be a concern. If we go through another rotation of another valued players, and all of those don't work too. And it's like, oh, but but yeah, I honestly think we do this group. Like this is life is like, Binky if you will it's like okay. This is what I know. This is how we were successful, not just Al Horford himself and obviously his skill-set but just the philosophy that little bit more that let's get a job. Back in here, that used to galvanise these guys. And if that doesn't work, then we have a serious job. Don't you ever like you're right? Start. Would you said the last last week you get the, the, the right page is part of the autopsy. And I think this is Brad's, obviously, this first movie, he kills really saved by because he knows what he's getting an, Al Horford and and you know, to give up a first-round pick and also get money down and all that stuff from a cultural standpoint. It's just like, okay, let's test this out and then we'll see if we have further I guess so one thing I did find internet go ahead Jimmy, go ahead. I was going to say, what's up, let's not back in, like Al hasn't already been there. Done that. With, with this team, with these two are quite like this gone. He's been on the team. He watched them collapse. He watched the whole thing collapsed with carry on the team. I didn't hear Boo and he's like out of here. He was the first guy out the door. First, second of all, where'd he go? He went to Philadelphia to another team with two young Stars. They couldn't seem to quite get it together and what happened. In fact, Elsia. He was moved on out of there. He couldn't have, the obvious didn't have much of effect. They were first or next with him on the team. So what stop saying that? Oh, I'll warp and listen, I like Al Horford. I'm sure he's, you know, still got enough in him to call you, but let's stop acting, like Al Horford's. The savior of this team with John saying is something that we've hinted. And what we've actually mentioned on this on multiple episodes of the show is that star after star player after player come and go on this team and Jaylen, Brown and Jayson, Tatum are still here. Why are so many great players. So willing to leave this team Kemba Walker. If you believe the reports wanted to leave to, I mean, at some point, is there a star player that wants to make it home with these two young guys believes in these two young guys? Or do these two young guys have to therefore believe in their teammates around them but there is definitely a disconnect. And I go back to that word because watching this team this year whoever's fault it took forever was preferential treatment and who wasn't there was a huge disconnect..
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"As a third option on this team and ultimately they were just prefer to have him, still try to be Kemba, the Kemba the way he was before and It didn't work at all. Like I, I thought this, I thought dealing with his injury, his status and his star role on this team. I thought was the biggest detriment to them winning lasts GA and that's why he's gone in like a table. They went through it. They did everything they could to entire season's derailed, derailed by trying to figure out how to work board and Hayward back from an injury playing him too much. Not figuring out whether to start of how to rotate them. In tweaking other people as a result of their, in the end, then again and then and then the same exact same thing. It's unreal like, you know, it just it messed everything up. It really is. I mean, I hate talking about luck. I you wonder, you know what? What happens to the entire franchise Gordon. Hayward doesn't break his leg, you know, in Cleveland, you know, the whole thing is so weird home, thinking how we how we got here. It's incredible know, I can't wait to see what's the next point, guard? Who is it going to be the most interesting? Sliding doors, I'm going to go on a limb and say it's not going to be one of those taught scoring Score. First point guards at the stuff has been blessed with the last three of them, you know, Isaiah, Thomas career and of course, Kemba Walker. But you don't you don't need a guy that can necessarily come in and just absolutely delighted up anymore because you've got Jalen, you've got Tatum you got guys who can get you points, you need someone that is not was on Rhonda, but in the mold of a little guy, those pass is old-school guy. What do you have in your mind? Just fraud, who know I've been racking. I've been racking my brain cuz most parts are Score. First point guards nowadays there's more guys name You can't right now get like for example, you're going to hear a lot of talk, obviously about why it's a ball who was a great past, first type point guard but you're going to have major competition, not including the team that he plays for to try to try to lure him and you don't have the assets to make a really strong case to get him. So that's chip forget about that ship sailing that she couldn't even in your damn Port, it's just not going to happen. So what's the, what's the alternative? I think you've gotta the Celtics. Bottom line, you're going to have to get lucky..
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"It's not Kemba Camp, a camp people who, you know, kind of sided with Kemba on, this sort of thing, would be the president. Something like that or someone who who's, who let the team, you know, a while ago or is, it isn't even as an afterthought at this point, right? Yeah. Because they wanted to cross member and they saw things differently. Yeah I understand. Kemba walking out the door with frustration at this level because he's not now. But at the same time if you just a lot of people saying TJ yeah that's an example. If you if you get, if you objectively, look at the situation, there were countless times as you were Brad. Same You need, to be camber to get where we're going to go and they try to set him up in that position. Countless times throughout the year the program most specifically that they had them on was sacrificing wins and stability in terms of putting him in the best position to be healthy and prison when they needed him most and still then work in the end. And that's why he's gone. So like I, I'm not buying any of the Kemba Walker discussion here. There was no slight to come by, in any way or form from the Celtics, from my bright. Like, it sucks that he ended up in Oklahoma City and that his career as a star is probably overnight, but had nothing to do with us. Then like this is not comparable to the Isaiah situation. I mean at all, he buy, you know, anybody's guess here, probably got this condition through Thursday. Well, surgeries in Charlotte ended up dogshit, you guys don't think look if Kemba really didn't do what he was supposed to do. Rehabbing the knee came back. There was frustration birth. Okay, this reason to get upset but it really looks like they looked at that situation and immediately said we gotta get out of this as quickly as possible which is what I was saying in the offseason and got killed for it off. You know, out sell sell your campus. Get out now and they clearly they were trying to do that. So you went from, we love you, we love you, we love you, we want you in Boston to let's let's get rid of the sky for anything that's going to make you feel pretty shity no matter who you are and no matter what and we know it's a cold business. It's still if you're Kemba, you have a right to be a little bit annoyed but like I just got here man. If you're trying to get rid of me. Yeah. And he didn't do anything exciting. He was a starting point guard in the All-Star Game, you know? I mean he played relatively well last year and then he had the injuries and they were like, nope, gone, I don't want it anymore. Yeah, I mean, it's not great. A bit of everything, I mean, obviously they wasn't I didn't pay them. I mean, they gave them a max deal. I was probably that's obviously a big reason behind this so you can look at it from both sides. It's like, yeah. Okay, another month or star or former star, however you want to say it. Another veteran, other guy that, you know, you did him wrong. But for every player that Celtics trade away, there's another player that walks away. I mean, look at Kyrie look at, hey, we're looking more for life. So, what are you supposed to do? Just sit on your hands away from these guys to, to leave you for nothing. So I do understand from a business point of view, but there's there's side of it where, you know, he feels like, oh, great..
Tolbert, Krueger and Brooks
Boston Celtics Trade Kemba Walker to Oklahoma City Thunder
"And an NBA trade of note Today, Kimber walkers sent From Boston to a okay. See with the number one pick for Al Horford. Moses Brown in a second round pick. Okay, see, taking the remainder of Walker's exorbitant
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"Going to fix that as well. You have a guy in Kemba or in Horford, who's going to take a back seat for us, who's going to go home? Help us tank. Do our thing here, and we're going to work with him on his future, life Nation, if he really hated, Boston didn't like it here. Didn't want to come back. This deal probably doesn't get done, but he looks at the situation now, post everything and it's like. All right, we got some young guys here. We got some young Stars. I like what we got here and I'm going to go back and do it again. That's good on the end of thing. But I am like I said, is you've done? You've done Kemba dirty so to speak. How did they do crack a dirty? Look, I'm just talking about the way. I'm just it's just a phrase Bobby. I'm, I've never thought you talking about. I've never bought into that. I think it's abated. Everything they possibly can. That's what I'm saying. I I have always believed it's a business, you can't have you can't be pissed off when people trade you, you know, no matter what there's no loyalty on either side, you walk, you totally understand it. When you totally understand it. When Whatchamacallit, when when guys get traded and when you guys make their own decisions and free-agent, I think when people people don't seem to understand was that how didn't leave? Because he hated it in Boston, he left because he got a better offer, he felt that his value was at a certain point, didn't agree. And so then I'll said, well, let me go find out what that value is and you got a four-year hundred million dollar deal, which is more than a Celtics felt he was worth now in retrospect the cellphone right. Because when you look at how things flamed out for Allen Philadelphia look out, things didn't work out. When you got traded to OKC. I mean, Al has been at a couple of different places since he left Boston, and I think if you're out, Horford, it at this month. Your career you gotta ask yourself what's the best situation for me players want to play?.
Glenn Beck
Celtics Send Kemba Walker, 16th Pick to Thunder for Horford
"Report. A big trade in the NBA. The Boston Celtics are trading Kemba Walker and this year's number 16 overall draft pick and a 2025 2nd round pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder for a package that includes Al Horford, Moses Brown and a 2023 2nd round pick. Okay. See now has three first round picks in this year's
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"Nice to have Bradley back in the room, you could also do. If this doesn't work, you could try. Get Daniel house from them, whom could possibly be available, and then, back to solid like that. Bobby one of those guys like or you could do a, straight-up Kemba Walker, John Wall swap, which were a New York, New Jersey. To go there box that we didn't do that one but that's another semi interesting month that that is the what is the last one? We're going to do real quick and then we're going to go. Does anyone want to hang here? You guys just want to all one ahead. Let's just don't head over. All right. That sounds good. Yeah. So we're going locker. Room room is open. You guys can jump in there now, wait for us. We're going to wrap it up here in the morning. To take your. Take your questions. Take your comments off the room. Yeah, I go suggest more trades here. All night. Okay, let's do, for a wall real quick. Yes. Yes. I am young Benedict, huh. You need a passer playmaker? Yeah, that's one of the best passers in the league. That's two years. Three years years on that deal. I ruined three years, they do it. No, it's, it's it's the same length as Kemba. But why would they do it, why would they do it? Why would I save money, and a little bit of money, so you just get water and kristyn out and you're one could save a lot of money Jones, depending on, when the couple seconds to make it worth their while. Yeah. But would you would send Trish how to write know? They work straight up? A work straight up. Yeah, Jimmy. What can we do that. Do it today. Wallace Goss always forty. Two million canvas 36 for jams 42 million. So you're going to be diving in the attacks a little bit that's probably don't give about the tax. Of course not you're not paying it. Exactly. Well, Wick needs to Pony up a flip side pane Jack's, wouldn't we be getting all excited when we be able to get so excited about wall coming here? Definitely, I would. I mean Houston was and you did a decent job before hard and blow up the spot. Yeah. So again just took the table. These are, we just jumped a lot to him to a lot of Kemba here. We still have not talked about and we're still waiting on Jimmy's, take on the Brad situation. We're going to talk about that in locker room as well. And and what I will say is as time has gone on. I like this move, less, and less, and less, and less. And I don't know how you guys feel about it, but I'm like, I'm going to be laying on this couch. Like I'm at like counseling session when I talk about this. Yeah, Brad stuff. Yeah. All right. Staring at the wall. Yeah, so we're going to head over like I said, does anybody feel they have anything left to say here cuz I'll let him I'll let you do it. No, this role, let's roll..
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"Don't want them to ever be bad. Exactly. Like oh man I can't be all that. I remember winning a title with these guys. I don't know why everyone is obsessed with bringing back. These guys, when you saw Darren get a younger version, the same player but a younger player that's out there can play a similar position where the same page And, and I'm just talking about Portuguese in this example and yet is it a risk? Absolutely, it's a risk. But when you're not a great team, you have to take risk. You have to gamble a little bit. It's a high-risk high-reward, what's, what's the alternative? Like somewhere and Kemba here? And you try to restructure that contract and now they're selling in a first-round exit? Like, is that what you guys want to do? You want to, you want to double up with Chris? That's I mean, the camera is not often I'd rather swing-for-the-fences and source and strike out or hit a home run. Then hit first African single girl. I love Al Horford and would love for him to come back. I wouldn't do that deal. I just, I don't think it's the type of deal that makes a whole lot of sense. I mean, hell, if you're going to do that, you might as well. Keep Kimbo really good point if that's like the best meal. I continued it. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I mean, listen, if, if Robert Williams, it was someone that we can say, this is it, he's going to be completely healthy. I'm a job. May I say the same thing that that's Rodger said, but because of that, I sort of like the idea of him returning to that role, that Mentor role that met a whole lot to Robin Williams. He he talked a lot about a heading into this season and it's just, I don't know. What's he going to call it a Celtics Binky, if you will, I think that they feel comfortable with that when you guys get someone like that back when you guys rather have this job, would you guys rather have Rob and Tom next year, or Robin Horford, you're forgetting to include Kemba in that scenario, right? I mean, well, that's my thing about this one is that this can become a bigger figure. Some else you had to go talk to for Xena to see what's, you know, whether he's he'll still interested, just platonically. He's like, I'm talking you up right now man. Thompson's an expiring deal is a good choice. This is a good point. Kevin will be a bit Ito Bobby don't make that. That's a great Point. Yep. Come through the door any second. Now somebody here by this is Bobby Ellis making. She's making a reservation right now. It's been there so long. It's like a lamp to me. This is my page here. It like I knew still think that's the Al Horford from five years ago. That walking, through that bedroom door, it's not. So, how was real solid? I know one that no one was watching him cuz he was in Oklahoma. But remember he was watching, if you for disclosure had on my fantasy team for a little bit. He was bawling out. It was. And if she remember when we looking at the standings throughout the year in, Oklahoma was floating right there in the middle of the week. Somehow, he was a big part of his looker and KD getting into it. Okay, oh yeah, I just saw Shack..
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"Was probably their second-best offensive weapon this year. He's not, he, the ceiling isn't as high as to what you envisioned, he could potentially be as both a guy who could, you know, you know, contests, you no contest shots and stretch it out and shoot threes and be seven feet tall and just a real problem, but he's still a 7-footer that shoots nearly 40 per month from 3 and can score. Like, that's not find any way. He's not a unicorn or Horford Hamer, Horford Morford, I thought, but see that's the thing. Yeah, that's why Horford by far? That makes he brings a lot of stuff. I wouldn't say by far, but I think I'd prefer that and and I know you've already done this song. Exactly what he brings in the exactly, what if I tell you that? All right, well, Jimmy like what's, what's wrong with going? Why, why go for the unknown on this one? You know. It's just that the lot of at the big contact with taken as well, obviously, in out-and-out, Horford. But Chris stops, I mean, it's a gamble. He signs a real twenty twenty-five, United Kemba Walker out. The gamble, Kemba Walker has known. He's like we're worried about Chris, Deb's injuries, like my Lord Krishna has played as many games this year. Look at his injury log need ankle. Fairfax BonChon, e77 for like those type of injuries that they don't bode well for seven, you know, guys, that big little, guys, you guys either doesn't bank has em. He's a big man, simply because he's tall. There's nothing about his game other than his height. That screams big man. And now with with Stevens, and everybody great, you can't even count on that old thing. We used to talk about with Steven swear. I'd be dead. Or Stevens can utilize him better? We don't even know who the coach is going to be right next. Biggest worry, is that he's an asshole and he signed an extra year over Camry option for the third year. And that's that is a bit of a concern, right way. You talk his way out of New York and just some of the kind of, you know, end and that will do the the exit interview in New York..
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"I come back, we believe in you listen, symbol Walker me. If I'm Kimberley Walker and all this talk is going on all summer long. And I'm still in Boston, I'm coming back as an absolute Stone, Cold assassin. And if I had in the first chance I get to leave, Boston, I'm going to do it and do it. He'll do the Hayward off that 37 and then another hundred million know. Now the alternative if you're the boss. So just watch all the talk about giving being trade and just tell him that we're not going to include you in any deals and we're going to come back and we're going to be Kumbaya your boots, two and all that and then you still run the risk of him leaving. So why would you not find out what his value is? And see if there's a deal that you can work out versus putting your head in the sand and pretending, as if everything is rainbows and birth, Please bring him back without knowing what his value is outside of your organization to me. That is the criminal act and all this. If they don't find out what his value is seems like kind of going back to last summer, at least Corner the reports. Now maybe they were shooting for the moon in terms of what they wanted. Jrue Holiday that kind of thing was a little larger sister was dead, they lived tried to trade him for a dead guy. Like I mean, you know, like I know what you mean, but then took a little market but they tried to trade him for the market. I'm always close to that to transfer old rigid about Bobby, put on the text thread. Wow, wouldn't that? Have been crazy if you retired? I'm like, yeah, that would that would have been a great way. Yeah, we think we think about that. I find it extremely sorry, I hope camera's not watching. I love camping, I don't care what you guys. I loved it. Everyone loves, but everyone still wants to trade. Kemba impossible to be. No, we did not go in this season. I haven't spoken to Danny Brad, whoever about these rumors that float around, there is no way when did season without that discussion..
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Oklahoma City Thunder Embarrass Boston Celtics
"Special guest tonight, tonight is Jeff Goodman. And before we get to his latest zesti, take on Joe Brown which we will a little bit later in the show. We just want to welcome him to the Garden report. Post game show and Jeff will give you first bite at the Apple. It's I don't know how many times we're going to say worst loss ever because it feels like we've said it a lot. It's hard to not bother. It's hard to not tell this the worst loss ever. This is so this Jeff they work. They were atrocious and embarrassment but I don't listen, I don't care that Jayson. Tatum and Kemba Walker didn't play. I do care because I think Jason should have been out there. I don't know how bad the injury is, or whatever, is dealing with public. And it came like this, you gotta be out there. This is what 11/12 games left in the regular season. You needed this win, you could ill afford a loss like this, but even without Tatum and Kemba last name. They were without shade gilgeous-alexander, and they stink, they absolutely stink. They're trying to tank they've got a garbage team other than Lou door and you lost. You had supposedly Dead one of the top 25 players in the NBA in jail and Brad. I thought, Oh, supposedly. And it starts now, you mean using all subjects, you mean you're not lose. That's the supposedly Factor know. It's, it's true. Jeff look. I think they rolled the dice on Tatum thinking we could get away with tonight and still squash out the window. And so we needed to give him a day off. Let's pick the game and they pick this one on the back to back on the front, end of a back-to-back, and it burned him obviously. And I don't think he's, I don't think he's hurt but I mean, I get it doesn't matter. Like I watched this whole game, I've not watched to Oklahoma City games this year, I still can't name a player on their team
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In the Light of the Tough Season, The Celtics Still Have a Glimmer of Hope
"Think the way that we have seen Kemba Play Over the month of April, and if he can bring that, if he can be 80% of the camera that we have come to expect, I think that that will be huge for this team going forward. And I am also optimistic like Evan said, the absence of Robert Williams has proven to be dead And even bigger issue than I think anyone had could have predicted just in the fact of what he was doing with that starting unit on offense, he was moving the ball and also not allow defense has to pack the paint because you have to draw Robert out of the paint or else you at least have to account for him cuz he will just come in behind you and dunk on your face. So for that it opens up a lot of things offensively and then defensively just to have a guy who can provide that kind of Rim protection and that kind of communication we hear from the assistant coaches. Just how much Rob has improved in communication job defensively. And so I do think that, that is a huge thing that is missing for this team right now. And then you add in the fact that yes, Evan Fournier is coming off a battle with covideo said, he didn't feel well for a 4 to 5 days and still trying to work his way back. I think there are areas to look to for positivity, but I agree with Evan that it's in this season. The fact that they can be so dead. And hide and look like two completely different teams. It's just frustrating and it and it's frustrating because of the expectations that are on this group and regardless of how many games they lose and how fast they come out over and over again, those expectations remain,
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"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"All right, we're live Celtic Sun's just going to be for tonight. Joe sway not enough coffee in the world for that poor guy. Wow. Knock it out. Okay. You're not working earlier this week. You know what it was those two West Coast games killed just way he was a trooper he stuck in on them. He did the locker room stuff with us and the poor dude you have her dead. For dude, never recovered a partner too hard Tap House. Well, yeah, he was able to make it you're trying to make it the 3 a.m. With me and John and just kill him right back to make sure we keep them on the load Management program. Obviously that stuff stuff for the not for the faint-of-heart hear about those weeks to knock you out Bobby's this naturally up and we all wake up text from Bobby in a group text from like 3 in the morning being like wow, like some obscure basketball this name some obscure baseball player looks good tonight. I'm like what like a bad man is 3/3 facts. I gotta move to California bad. Yeah, you really do right. So lots of things to talk about for this game. I want to say that right out of the top. Okay, I want you to say it. Let's hear it just go Jimmy. Let's go. I was going to say it's very it's it's sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. I think there was a little delay there. But what I want to say, it's very nice of you to show up for the show tonight, very busy around do for John. You're showing his face tonight after Kemba Walker's greatest game of the season, possibly a Celtic a career. So I just want to say thank you for showing up. Jimmy. What the backhanded compliment? Well Done. By this happening was following up by this logic. Survey also less loaded. We also drink Bob do we think Bobby for showing up cuz when Cornett was a dnp-cd you know, was that all so brave of him? Yeah, that's Brave. Very. Okay. Well, what's the difference? Grandpa player not as matchup not as match up, the pettiness is so right tonight, I'm loving it, we live, we live for one thing and that's to just shove it in each other's faces. We're down to talk about basketball. We're here to keeps go with one another absolutely. And I before we get into Kemba, you before we get into Kimbo that's fine. I do want to ask you guys. Similarly to the Denver game, was this? I mean it's hard to look at this game and feel awesome outside a Kemba about anything. Sure, the defense I thought like pretty good. There was some moments, you know, some d song from Romeo smart though, he didn't shoot well, I thought played a good game defensively. I liked them a lot. But was this a case of a son's team that was aghast and didn't bring it tonight or the Celtics upon the pressure against similarly to Denver, I kind of have the same vibe in this one cuz I mean, this was a, this is I mean what? What is Phoenix score 37 in the first half, you know how much was the Celtics, how much was them? It was coming. Definitely a combination of the two. There's no doubt..
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Tatum Scores a Triple-Double Against the Bulls
"This was a game for all the Campbell haters because when Kemba misses the game, like I like Jason Tatum is cold as ice and you see the final score this one these guys could not buy a basket tonight. And this was the game that if Kemba Walker plays that's less time for Pritchard that's less shots for for Tatum who certainly couldn't you know wasn't on tonight and maybe they're getting better looks because Jeanne listen when Kemba Walker's Out There He commands a lot more attention than Richard does or, you know, whoever else you know Waters or whoever you want to put in there. So it's a little bit of a trickle-down effect. I will say I liked that song even though Tatum was off he found other ways to contribute. I mean triple-double tonight, you know, you don't want to just sniffed that away so credit credit for that
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Celtics Trade Rumors: Nikola Vucevic
"Do have interesting trade rumors. We didn't want to wait till after to get to them and they involve a bunch of big names that we've been kicking around on the thread on the on the live streams all of this time some really big fish out there. The Celtics are supposedly in on so we'll go Name by name. But again, this is Shams very plugged in the Athletic Club throwing out vucevic throwing out Jeremy Grant throwing out Harrison Barnes. These are all enticing names and honestly those three plus there and Gordon are probably the big fish house on the market Garden Of course dealing with the sprained ankle. So teams are wait and see there but those are the big names out there. We've been hearing them all the time. I'm going to start with Bobby's boy boo Savages. Part of that report was that it's going to be a massive Hall that we've been debating on all day Bobby what that actually entails but first this you turned on this guy meaning turned back towards this guy as Gore guy tell us why tell us what you think what you'd be willing to give up here for the Celtics to get it done. So I was never the biggest fan him and the sticks were previously invested in him during that Kemba Walker offseason. They were hot on him cuz they had the max cap space after Kyrie and Mortadella could have filled him down the middle. So there's a connection there. Obviously Kemba came along and grab that bone. Now, you have the chance to have four All-Stars on the team of chemicals affect them. They hated it. Yeah, and I still don't love it now, but I think context is everything you don't have cap space forever now wage only so many ways you can improve in the future. So why not grab the best player available? And I think out of all the options were going to talk about today. This guy's an All-Star. He pushes 30 points a game on many birth. It's eye dominant. Rebounder. Probably one of the best rebounders in basketball this year defense. We'll see I think it's all situational but he's kind of a disaster down there in Orlando defensive or a that could change in Boston and the three-point shot by zone is the best 3-point shooter above the break and basketball this year. So that's perfect in Boston pick-and-pop off and he'd get open shots above the are called a there he can post up he's seven feet. I know people will love that. He's a real big so he just give them a bunch of different options and outlets for offense and size that they don't have right now and this is what I love about and to John if they can find a way to clear types in a potential deal here clear Thompson in a game here and you're left with Rob and bukovic. See the dream. That's the dream. So look at it this way though. If you're the other team coming back, your don't want to take on Thompson or Thai so, you know, Rob is automatic berth. Certainly, if you're going to go big, you know to go get somebody else's big. I don't see any world in which you make a trade really any trade at this point in Rob Williams is still a Celtic. So anybody at home saying do do it do it I think has to get used to kind of giving up on their Binky which is Rob Williams, which is going to be hard for a lot of Celtics fans to be able to live with that.
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Kemba Walker Leads the Celtics To an Impressive Win Over the Clippers
"I guess we'll do, he came out scorching and was pretty often throughout this one. I thought those back-to-back threes in the second half where the key moment of this game that gave the Celtics are multiple possession. We that they ultimately had to the rest of the game there. Once they hit those became a rebounding back the rest of the way. I thought the Celtics are pretty Dreadful on the boards for most of this game and show it to you guys. Robert Williams came in and made all the difference there. He was a rebounding machine as he has been for most of the Season change, but on camber, I mean, what are we talking about at this point? I ten games now somewhere between eight to ten games in a row where he is been himself at the very least. Maybe not home. Most exceptional definitely not his lower rung of production somewhere in between. You know, he's been steady. He's been fairly consistent. I'd say double-figure scoring every single game now four or eight straight games his last one was the seven point out against Utah, you know a few nights off in between a few months or games off of those nights off 25-28 32,000 see when he's fresh when he's well-managed at this point. He's going to be able to give you Kimber production.
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Pelicans Comeback From 24 Down To Beat Celtics
"We are steaming was you know, this had a you know, this was a check the boxes to her to win. It looked like for, you know, almost three-quarters Four Points 24-point lead them into just I mean, I don't know. Is it a loss of the year? Yeah, that's gotta be the worst year. I give it less so every that's what's up with this Sunday. I know I mean there was there was lost. You can definitely the Wizards was a lower point for sure. I'm just in terms of like but this was bad, but this was bad. This was bad for all the reasons that like, they're known to be bad like giving up those big leads not having a closer although Jason get a couple of big shots. But I mean man this was this was this was bad when everyone Utah Kemba Walker one game after my apology. I know Jimmy this is this an apology game
Winning Plays
"kemba" Discussed on Winning Plays
"Me show me shooting creatures rank in the rookie class here. At first we got some big news. So what was what was the official title MassLive you were now the NBA Celtics and empty a reporter. I think it takes beat writer or so that's better reporter. So we'll we'll go fast. But yeah, I'll be I'll be doing some NBA there too as it has a pops up. But yeah, it's be definitely a super job opportunity get started there next week. Obviously plenty of great writers have been there before so plenty of people to follow up with but dead. Jumping right into during trade season will be a fun Endeavor. And yeah, super, you know very much enjoyed my time at bsj very tough too long to leave them behind really love working with all the folks over there and Greg Sean and Conor but yeah excited about a new chapter cool man. Congratulations fair price went back to see I may say your day-to-day doesn't change very much. You're still covering the Celtics you're still doing that but it's always nice to maybe get a get a fresh start somewhere. Yeah. I mean I'll be ran middle of the season is unique to do it, but that's true. But yeah, I'll be again they'll be plenty of Plenty things to cover and then the new spot. All right. Well, I talked about a fresh start and Thursday we're going to do the exact opposite of a fresh start we might talk about Kemba Walker. Yeah, so we're doing this on Friday against Toronto on Thursday. 290 had a pretty solid game right hit 5 threes 21 points five turnovers not great. But again, this is like the fourth the fourth or fifth game where he's right around 30 minutes so you can see him maybe settling in to like the the upload that you'd expect for him for the rest of the season still for this season. So far worse field goal percentage of his career worst, 3-point percentage in a long time lowest points per game since his rookie year second. Offensive rating of his career second highest defense of Reagan's career has not been a fresh start for Kemba Walker in his return from injury and we're not going to expect him to come out gangbusters, right? But where are you staying home? Think about the long-term, you know after we've seen in the short-term. Yeah, so it was interesting to hear such a change. She talked about this on his in his weekly interview with touching each on.
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"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"You know Celtics fan is no choice award a tough on Tatum. He did and before I mean how you know, I mean that that Neutron team they can defend another level especially when it matters most, you know, you saw the the last song Will season run I mean this team's equipped his team is they had the experience and I think you know from a positive standpoint from from the Celtics side of things you have to look at how they're able to keep themselves in this one. But as long as the glaring uh started here is of course Kemba Walker as he just when something's Twitter was hip to the fact that he had in a proper way up since he came back pretty much off. All right, that's when he finally can run his layup and that was the last one he converted. I'm here saying he's just so just so he can check the mic. You're a little you're coming in a little hot here. My steel tube too loud mean it's it's a little hot in over modulated. So I don't know if the game is turned way up on your end. But I mean, we're trying to avoid getting into it because again, this is where we get not confused. But this is where you know, I'm always confused not confused. But the reason the game was lost is not entirely because Kemba Walker was brutal again, but the headline of this game was Kemba Walker was brutal again wage. This is the if you're looking at okay wins and losses are going to come and you're not going to over react to every time that a team that they don't play. Well, well one you can because they've lost eight of their life twelve now, so it's getting a little bit concerning concerning to the defense as you mentioned was bad. But again, the headline is and continues to be Kemba looks terrible. I mean terrible birth on liability at this point and I know everyone's inclination is to continue to give them the benefit of the doubt because he's Kemba Walker and are you saying mechanical like mechanically the way he's moving or just in general he's useless at this point. I disagree with this leaves used to use a different job. I know that but we're look rust is fine ten games in we're talking about like he said three of the worst shooting performances of his career in the last four or five games. Okay, and it could be a slump and it could turn around and if the ball starts going in the bucket nobody's going to make an issue of it, but the dog I'm not going in the bucket as we mentioned. He he's really only able to hit from range at this point and he's off and he's missing open looks too. So right now he's a mess. It doesn't mean he's going to be this way forever. But he is a mess right now and it's that's the worrisome thing is and again, I think people again confuse the you can be worried now because you just want to see him return to form and when he does it wasn't an overreaction to be worried. You're just you're worried cuz you want to see it. You want to see a stretch of games where all of a sudden he does look better and it's not as big an issue. We're just not seeing it now. And again, what are we is this game ten for him coming back? 11 11. Yeah, so it's it's a legit concern at this point. You you you you want to not see this many really crap performances from him. So I don't know if Joshua can agree with this or not, but I was thinking throughout the course of this game. Yes. You're right when you miss that many shots..
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Devin Booker, Suns Dominate Celtics Defense as Kemba Struggles Again
"Post game show Super Bowl Edition, I guess here even though yeah felt like the whole, you know, the last four years in a row, so he won Super Bowl Sunday a huge jigs going into this one, but when the game actually played itself out, I mean, how long did you did anyone even think the suffix for for a second had a chance to win this one in throughout the fourth quarter, at least I mean 102-91 the sun's taught the Celtics year you got you know for fourteen that we talked about how many different players can log? Have you know doesn't really contribute offensively so let's got six against the sun six players scored in double-figures here and it still wasn't enough couple of Walkers struggled. Of course, we're going to talk a lot about that Jayson Tatum a lukewarm shooting night. Not exactly what we wanted to see at him, especially down the stretch, but when it's his office looks that damn desperate, I mean, that's that's what you get. Right right fellows Nick gelso. Of course. Like I said, he's joining in here for for John we got Bobby Manning Jimmy Toscano, Jimmy. Let's start with you me Jimmy you came in here fired up because it's like you don't need one. You're already moving on to the ball, right? You don't even get into this. I want to talk about this game as much as it looked like the Celtics wanted to play this game today. I mean we're looking at like 80 points in the fourth quarter. That is ugly ugly basketball. I actually thought that the selfish would come out a little bit differently a second because they shot so poorly in that in that first half, but man it was kind of like more of the same to be completely honest. I mean listen, I know Jaylen Brown today, but that's no excuse. You know, they've able to compete a lot better than they and they did that thought today I mean I'll give them props for hanging around in the end I thought the P party kept him in it with some big big 3s and that second half there I know South Campbell Walker struggled all freaking day and if John was here I know would be ten minutes in on Kemba Walker right now he had a couple of big threes itself down the stretch but he missed another one late even later so you know very inconsistent you know that's kind of in a story with with Kemba Walker and I know that's one of the big issues people have with him but yeah it wasn't enough today frustrating it looks like it just looked like Phoenix had a lot more energy from start to finish and I mean Devin Booker did a little did a lot of everything I loved Devin Booker not just cuz obviously but I mean when you talk about some of the best scores in the NBA he's right right up there at the top where like a guy that can just like change the game in like 30 seconds all of a sudden he goes you know three straight down the court yep No, eight straight points all of a sudden, you know keeps the sons in it right there. So
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Kemba Walker Up and Down as Boston Celtics beat Warriors
"Get into Kemble a little bit cuz this started out to me is like the Kemba Walker starting to find his rhythm game and he was hitting shots early and then he just went ice cold again and it's just like, so again, you're kind of stuck in that in-between range with Kemba where wage In the early going again. He looked quick again, you know, and he looked you know, he had some juice but that shots got a fall and it was early and I even tweeted and we were talking about it's like, okay, this is good. This is what you want to see and then like you said just get ice cold and if if he's shooting such a low percentage, it's just it's not helping so I'm glad he was able to kind of overcome it. But again these box scores these lines these six of a teens, you know, and again, he acquitted himself fine on defense Drew one charge possibly another he was fine, but he's just got to just more of these shots have to drop especially the ones that are open and he still this wasn't an overly big team. He did still struggle every time he tried to get to the basket on him either throwing up something that was please don't block this, you know levels of creative that he just it wasn't a high percentage look at the rim or just you know, or got blocked wage. Couldn't get there. So he's still struggling, you know in tight and this this isn't a particularly large Golden State team and they also lost somebody during the game. So that's still a bit of a concern for me with Kemba Walker. You want to see one of those nights where he's just it flows the whole game long. We still haven't really I mean like I say, we still haven't seen it but we haven't seen Pete Campbell anywhere close yet. Nothing
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There Were Some Positive Developments In The Boston Celtics Loss
"I believe it or not. I'm going positive here. I thought were a ton of positive developments tonight. Kemba Walker was awesome for large stretches of this game. They unlocked Daniel theis. I mean, I've been waiting all year for that Kemba entice combination to start rolling again. And I think This lends more credit to Titus actually being the starter on this team going forward once hate him gets back. I love with Marcus did tonight like a very inverse game for him doing all his Works inside The Arc in between at The Rim against embiid. He was incredible here execution late was definitely a challenge but you know, he didn't necessarily have a co-host enforce camber being within the flow of a game on you mentioned that him coming in awkwardly there after not playing the middle stretch of the 4th. And I you know, I guess you probably could have got more shots for Brownlee the game, but that would be the only complaint I have and even he cooled off with him. been after starting most of the game 50%
The Free Agents
Kemba Walker Rusty, But Also ‘Pain-Free’ In Return For Boston Celtics vs. New York Knicks
"Boston celtics had a bad weekend and kimball walking. I would call them. Losers kemba walker. I had a bad return simply because they got smoked at harm by the new york knicks by thirty points and kemba walker made his return now again. He didn't have a great game individually but he got through the game although he did leave in the third quarter with injury. He was fine to return if he could have been. He was that his minutes restriction. So he wasn't gonna come back now. We're getting drilled anyway but kemba walker said after all the right things felt good to be back at their now. It's just a matter of getting some getting his wind back and he's hoping to have that minutes restriction lifted. These things usually take probably three or four games at least Before we get there but one of the probably as a bit crazy we've seen some strange scores a strange result but seeing the boston celtics get absolutely hammered. No jason tatum. Who's out with coronavirus. Right now by thirty to attain the knicks. Who have been awful. Recently was a real big surprise really. I know the celtics hadn't played so they were a bit rusty. But i don't think we really expected them to get hammett what By that much. Good signs for the knicks. Obi toppin they rookie came back Hit two threes as well. We we heard all about how he played at close to the rim. They knocked down threes last night. That's how confident he was feeling. Took four two of them so that was great. Julius randle had another very good game here for the knicks for the celtics. They just couldn't get it going at all here at thirty five points in the first half alone And i think it was only fifty after three quarters they had yes so really shocking performance here from the celtics once they get back once they get jason tatum back. I think they'll be fine but this is the one they want to flush down. The toilet drilled at harm. And that's what the coaches say. I don't really want to evaluate this guy just like let's just flush the toilet.
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"kemba" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"Kemba Walker has returned to practice. Thank the Lord after some lengthy time off rehabilitate rehabilitating his left knee right channels and Bobby Manning here. Bobby, says, he's feeling good feeling better than he did in the bubble, which is huge. Just how good of news is this. I love that. Thank the Lord. He's back this going to be a huge addition for the team. That way it felt like tomorrow could have been the day you were stacked. So on Friday before the Celtics played the Wizard's and now it said he would be back to practice we would probably get four practices in before tomorrow and dead animals back and reported that tomorrow is the targeted date for him to come back now, that's obviously not going to happen. Danny Ainge went on the radio this morning and said it's not going to be ready to go for tomorrow today was just his first practice and he dead or alive. He was just doing some up and down work with the other guys to get into their conditioning after not playing not practicing for a week. So things have changed on that front unsurprisingly probably going to age another week I would imagine of just ramping him up getting him into some five-on-five action and seeing how he responds which is pretty much what Brad Stevens said today but back at practice earlier than I think anyone imagine I know I thought I would probably be February before we'd see him in a game and here we are in January 14th probably days from seeing him play again yeah absolutely now obviously it's a little too early to tell me that he didn't go you know a hundred percent at practice but do you have any idea of what he might look like when he does ultimately returned so Stephen said today they'll page me looks like Kemba again and that would indicate that he booked something close to what we saw in the Philadelphia Series last year great spot-up shooting twitchiness able to bounce around screens change directions all those things are important defensively they're going to want him ready to go and let's remember this 267 Celtics still in quarantine birth Now so if he's going to be playing it would have to be heavy minutes. So that could be part of the consideration now too. There's only 8 Celtics available a heading into tomorrow night with all the quarantines continuing off. So the rush might not be at the highest level to put them into action right away. If he does come back obviously, he would be limited compared to some of the other players out there for the first few games so often covet did not help the health situation of this team by any means but the answer the question you're going to want to see something very similar to the all-star form. At least the you know, high-level play that game Saw early in the postseason last year when he's coming back now should he returned to his former glory just how scary can the Celtics team be? What is he going to do? What is he going to add to this offense? Well, they're going to be in the running for the best offense in the NBA the way they playing right now. I'll be interested to see what kind of role he fits into right away. Now certainly you'll love to have him to rotate wage. The bench units to lead those vents units with some usually and those type of guys to keep the offense rolling through those periods. That's what they've done with Tatum. They've done it successfully with brown as well. So all of a sudden you'll have three guys and pretty much an entire game where you can have an All-Star level player leading the offense through those stretches. So that's going to be the first point there. But you know, he's not the best defender in the world, but we can say about him is he's positionally sound he switches. Well, he finds you know, scrambling men on the floor effectively, like he's always in a great position and tries really hard defensively and not be better than what they're getting at those guard spots right now between some of the other players like Peyton Pritchard and others who have filled in there so far and you know with how well Pritchard played all of a sudden he can lead a ton of life. So the team will be a little bit deeper. They'll have another explosive offensive weapons certainly and all of a sudden he'll be finding it to more of a secondary role than Tatum than brown dog. Going to reap the benefit of extra space just like other players have he hasn't been the best off ball shooter in his career so far, but it would be nice to start to see him progress into that aspect of his career and more space off with the doubles and all those different things that hate him receives will help him a hundred percent there. Yeah. Absolutely. It's definitely going to be nice. Just having that depth like you said, especially with covid-19..
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Do NBA’s COVID-19 Protocols Overlook on-Court Transmission Possibility?
"Just keep postponing games keep making the spread more because it seems like a Cortina at least spread from Tatum the Beale and then the Wizards had positive cases after that they had played the sons who were dead Quarantined and you have an Atlantic game. So like there's evidence here the teams playing each other's spreading this thing because the test things behind well, it's also just what they're determining the close contact play a game and they don't call it a close contact but you shake hands and you hug a guy after the game and it's close contact or you sit on the bench with them for a while. So they're just kind of guessing they've decided that on-court contact does not constitute close now to the article which is they don't know that that's the
WBZ Morning News
Boston Celtics hold-off Wizards to earn fourth straight win
"14 of 27 shots to power the short handed Celtics, who were without Tristin Thompson, Grant Williams and Robert Williams. The trio is sideline and covert 19 Health and safety protocol for the next seven days. Meanwhile, Kemba Walker has been cleared to begin practicing. He hasn't played this season after receiving a stem cell injection in his left knee
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What Kemba Walker’s Impending Return Means for the Boston Celtics
"I was laid off the last couple of medical reports. I really thought they would get to around now and then start to assess whether he can do anything at all. But the report the report is super positive to next Thursday 11 to relax keeping keeping your pants for a second know but look this you can't ask for more. Now. This is what you're looking for. It's dead, you know him starting to do actual basketball activity and that's what he's doing. So he's going to practice there's a report now. He might have been played by Friday. I you know, I don't there's people here and again, I'm one of them wondering what are we going to get out of him? Is it going to be 80% ninety percent hundred percent the reports today where that he was dead. No, really really good. So Bobby, what do we have? We have Brad here. Yep. I'm going to play. This is Brad Stevens talking about Kemba returning off-campus starting to rejoin the team in practice. The next progression for him is to get out there on the court with other guys on the team. He's been out there with coaching staff. He's been out there both one-on-one on one workouts, but also in doing is reads and four on four and five on five stuff, but next step now is to play some live in practice some 5 and with our guys, I don't think he's too far Johnny looks great. He feels great. Probably the best these felt since he's been here, you know coming straight to Boston from China last year in the In the FIBA games and then you know obviously in the bubble you had the ramp up and then by the end of it he's you know playing large minutes and we're in the middle of a playoff run and so he feels great dog looks good. Although I don't think our coaches present much of a challenge except for one. So it's a little bit of a, you know, catch-twenty-two from that regard, but he we're encouraged and I'm sure he'll be back sometime here in the near future, but we're going to still progress through the next steps of workouts and practice and those type of things. Mark Murphy, okay. So that's as good as it gets he's practicing in full with the team the report that he could be back in a week and Brad saying he looks nice as he's looked you can't ask for more now. It's just a matter of what we see. So I'll I'll shut it I can't wait. I don't I don't care if he's 70% it's a huge difference wage. Cuz right now every single thing that we're looking for from this team. It's amazing again offensively. They've been what they've been because of Tatum and brown so much when you know smart hasn't really I found his groove or found his spot. We thought he might end up having to supplement more offense with Kemba out and with Hayward gone hasn't really happened. They're getting it from kind of strange places, but just to take a little pressure off those jobs and have another guy out there who's a professional scorer and that's just what he does in life. It's going to be great, you know, just whatever minutes you get and whatever contributions you get. It's just a net-positive.
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The Winners and Losers of ESPN's Top 100 NBA Player Rankings
"Loves lists are fun to debate ESPN came out with one of theirs loves to hate lists, but go on they love to hate him. Yes why I used to hate him cuz you're usually very wrong or cuz everyone's got their own lists. Like everyone had the same listed will be everyone hates. Everyone hates lists yet. They love them because you can debate them endlessly and ESPN sent out. Its top 100 list up until Player 11 and Jayson Tatum is the last one on the list. So he didn't crack the top ten. Well up to 11 is quite an accomplishment for him. Kemba Walker all the way down to 48 Marcus Smart jumps from 87 years. Thirty-seven on this list Jaylen Brown goes up from 51 to 32 Jayson Tatum. Also a big leap up to 11:00 and again lists our lists and we're not holding this as holy gospel, but we still am kind of talk about it because it is interesting and they're fun to debate our friend Gordon Hayward comes in at 44. So Marcus Smart is better than Gordon Hayward apparently in ESPN's eyes who is slightly better than Kemba Walker who's been slightly diminished because of his knees and his uncertainty. So we'll see what's happening there. But guys your initial thoughts on this list. Mine is obviously smart way too high and Jaylen be a little bit low. Yeah, and if you compare to last year, you know, I was top-heavy with the town in terms of your percentage of the League's top twenty five guys. I did a top-25 myself. I did my own last game of the regular season last year and I had four Celtics in the top thirty. So that's different. Now, you know kind of takes a dip shocking it takes a dip with the or something off the top 20. I almost addicted when when John was talking about how much he hates list because I'm kind of with him on that but nothing nothing. Nobody list that I hate more is a preseason list and then Bob to say that you have a post like what NBA Finals list, that's probably the second worst one between capital mean anything it was between the regular season and the playoffs and you're right the list off completely by the end of the postseason that you took time. Okay. Hey out of your life. Hey, we gotta check the content here. How long a couple of months? No, you suck. Changes it rapidly after the whole Jimmy Butler situation that we saw in the playoffs and I think that's an interesting thing about this list to definitely considering playoff runs quite a bit. I mean Jamal Murray gets into the top twenty thousand that's playoff performance right there. You talk about some of the other guys biggest surprise Zion nineteen like the Scion hype continues. What was he played Thirty games? Does Chicago Fire? Wow, I don't think there's eighteen guys in the league. I want in front of him. I'll tell you that if it's know what they'll list is it's not that they do these jobs. It does project. It does project out a little bit in terms of you know, kind of entering the season. So I think the 30 games you played is less of an issue. I do again want to talk about the Celtics here. All right, you know one by one cuz again, it doesn't matter where they are on a list but relative to their expectations for the year. It is important. Okay, because yep need if Marcus Smart is a is the is a tough 37 player in the NBA then that's a that's a trio that you can feel pretty good about I debate whether that's actually true I don't understand how long this went from 80s again it's a list we know it's not possible but how does from 87 to 37 in a year when it's offensive metrics went down in terms of efficiency his three-point shooting got worse his to point his overall field goal percentage was 34 I mean he was not again we know he can distribute we know how to feed other things offensively to make up for that but this is a guy who you are now you're now we are now asking a 34% field-goal shooter to shoot more and that's important to the team's success issue that worries me a little bit yeah I mean that's the part of the lift that thing is out the most right obviously because the market smart and there's two reasons one because of what we saw in the postseason he didn't have a great postseason his special In the Eastern Conference Finals, so that stands out to you as okay. Well, how did he get high on this list? The reason I think it got high on this list because just like everyone else is saying and what we've been talking about you don't take on a big role because of Kevin Walker Because of You Know the Way Gordon Hayward let and now this is huge void. He's going to take up a huge step in and I think he is p.m. Which of course this is why I hate these preseason the list because they're they're either getting wait till end of themselves down sizing, you know, it's either one of the other and with this one. I think they maybe just saying that they may be value mean Marcus Smart a little more than we do. I guess I guess the best way to put it I don't know. I don't think I would put them that off the list but I see why they did that because they know that his responsibility is going to expand ridiculously the next couple of months,