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Go to try and go why code dot com, and that's what you wanna put in putting the discount code. And like, I said treat yourself okay for the blackout tips to your family. All right. So. Makes let's get into the show. All right. Got a bunch of stuff to talk about here. Let's see what should we even start? You know, what let's go ahead and start with some LGBTQ news. Okay. We talk about our family the LGBTQ people's that's out there. And the news is always kind. It's not always good. But you know, we like to cover it because I mean, how to fuck else you going to know what's happening, unless you know, you listening out here and trying to see how you can affect life and learn so let's go. I wanna ask you. Band. And this. You have. So tell me what on no. Now. And now if you to let me show. Bob with me. With me. That's right. Top LGBTQ news, which means somebody's will be good. And most of these right? Let's see God. Yeah. A houston. Trans woman was shot. And then of course, mis gendered in the news by the Houston chronicle. Because you can't have one without the other things. It's crazy. I know we've talked about this many times before, but it's just crazy that. The police and the new papers and stuff wouldn't want to report this accurately. Just for the fact that people would know this person as a woman, they were know this person as no longer their birth name or the day just for the fact of like if you're trying to spread information to people who will be affected by this and could help solve it. You know, it's like if my nickname not I don't know like a you're going by different names, not just necessarily. But let's say if my nickname was Rura and everybody knew me as Rura, and I got killed in the newspaper was like Rodrick. He will be like, I don't know. I I don't know who that is. Who that is? And there are some people that I've known majority of my life, and I don't know their real names, I know them, by nickname. So what are we talking about here, especially when you're talking about communities that are targeted communities where people have lower life expectancy is community where people are murdered more often. Correct. It might behoove me to know like what balances potato is happening in the people in my community. So I can protect myself as well, not to mention informed people's family members and stuff, but. Let's see Houston. Trans woman shot miss gender by Houston chronicle anytime anywhere, transforming the shot. I have made the problem with this from trans of. Guilt blocks anytime transforming decide I have made a problem with it. But when the crap happens in Houston, my backyard, less than a mouth where I live. I take personally a twenty four year old transforming on his pinky was chased Thursday morning through a busy Chevron station parking lot. Just after eleven AM the gun wilder, miscreants shot at pinkie twice corner. Herber in the front door to gas station located on the corner. Beltway eight Richmond and fired three shots of her at point blank range. She take you to a nearby hospital in a now conditions Valence Cam obtained by ABC thirteen Kat, Kat the incident. That's that's so while right? That's so and then of course, the Houston. Chronicle miss genders her. In the reporting of it. What what the fuck lie? Well, she's lucky to be alive is like and the suspect in the shooting is described as a black male standing about five eight inches tall who was last seen in light gray sweatpants hoodie. So another transgender woman of color attack by up black, man. You know? Pattern. You know? It's one of the reasons we we when we talk about on this show and we talk about like blackmail privilege when we talk about. Archy and stuff like that. And people go get kinda tight because it's like you're trying to come down on black, man. I I'm not trying to specifically come down on black, man. Other than being in the community of black men. You know, like I'm just saying that this is real harm that we're doing it is a pattern and it's about our attitudes about this shit. You know, we, you know, I think it's attitudes is the way to combat it. I think the reason this happens is mostly because transgender women of color are the least protective people in our society. So, you know, this is why these things continue to happen to them. But if we were to change our attitudes about the. About the trailer into community about our own community about women. I think we would be less prone to be valid or somebody. I don't like I can't imagine why this continues to happen. Ain't get you know, if you talked to the average black man, he'll tell you that I'm not attracted to train women. I don't you know, I don't kick. It would that. I don't know what you're talking about or whatever. But it's like book continually that attitude seems to be prevalent enough that is leading the some some other fuck like attack this community. Correct. And sometimes when people say sometimes when may make statement, they're saying that based off their knowledge, but you don't always know the people that you interact, you don't know the past. So you're you're saying that blanket statement not knowing that you may have been. You know? You may have been attracted to somebody transgender, but you just don't know you just blinking estate. Yeah. I think a lot of men have been attracted to transform it. I don't even think it's like some like allegis name to say, I think there man who are trying to gin mock, there's manhood attacked attracted to like some of the more prominent figures that are trans women because you're I doesn't fucking just know right away career or whatever is not until the knowledge field in that. This person is transit. They have to do this over performance of masculinity. That is this rejection. I believe like, oh, no, no, no, I'm so milled that I'm like completely repulsed by this person. And there's some people are taking to the point of violence. You know, and and and I don't think it's that in communist intimate because when you listen to just men who claim to be straight who put to not be attracted to trans women. We listen to talk about it in general. They turn themselves into the victim. They're like what if someone tricks me? You need to tell me this right away and all this type of stuff. Meanwhile, they're trans women who've been attacked parties. Because do just Sodom started dancing on them. When they said, hey, I'm trans or someone told them that person is trains, they attack that woman. Right. So so why should I disclose you like, what am I supposed to do walk around with a fucking badge? You know, when I know that disclosing to you could also be life or death for me, you know, things like something a person will have to earn not the other way around. Why around with the scarlet letter on my chest. But the point being there is no right way to do it. Because no matter what violence happens to trans woman, especially of color people going to justify no matter what they're going to always find a way to it was your fault. Maybe she was lying. I mean, what if it was a trick would have demand was he didn't know, you know, it's always something other than you know, to me, the idea that this is a person that we know society doesn't value so snuffing out someone's life. To protect my masculinity. That happens every day to women that are not trying to to trans women to children to other black dudes to like that whole we have to be our to protect masculinity is this is the this is back to me is a cause. And this is kind of the symptom, but the daily effects of this symptom are so much more important in your ego. But to other Choi pastor has been charged with a transgender woman murder. He's a pastor. Kelly show thirty six year old transgender woman from Detroit was murdered on Friday in the city's Palmer and park neighborhood on Monday. The Wayne County prosecutor's office charged Albert weather's a forty six year old preacher at her murder at the police police investigation. Prosecutors arraigned whether it's on charges are open murder and use a firearm use of a firearm and commission of felony said a press release share by ABC news by the Wayne County prosecutor's office, whether this due back in court in late December his bond is set at one million pro the prosecutor said they will present evidence in court that stowe's gender identity was a motivating factor in her murder. Cornell ubt news site into whether it's called police to report a robbery claimed he has shot. Someone self-defense though, NBC news has not independently confirmed that this call was made friends and family remember Kelly as a lovely big loving spirited. And courageous woman who was well known in Detroit ballroom scene. You know, this is also a while too. Because. Because I'm reading this. Are any of us going? I don't trust the police. They they must be live. They will. Let's wait to everything comes out. Are we be be honest with yourself right now. Because when they're just happy, I think a lot of people was on that we never believe the police, but that's not the truth. We don't believe in. We don't want to come the other part of this. We hit a prosecutors talking about, you know, going after this do how many yellow light. I hope they lock his fucking ass up for a long time. And it wouldn't be surprising. I don't know if it's true or not there was some form of relationship. They're like, oh, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised like, you know, most of the time when it's something like this not all the time. There's some form of they were having a symptom of a sexual relationship and something happened. Yeah. I just think it's kind of interesting because I they agendas collide on these things that people are honest about it. But I feel like the honesty and the transparency of that is where the humanity lies off entity is whether humanity laws. Humanity is not in this weenie dog get on this bandwagon. Stick to like, like, we're talking Republicans, or whatever I think the truth of the matter is most of the time we cover these stories by the time. We get the sentencing we see the value. Trans live is worth in death. And it's very very. Very rarely that we see someone sentenced to any long period of time for murder. We're talking about murder. You know, there's a trans. Panic defense is gay panic defense is just it's just something telling you that I can go to court and devalued as person's life because of their sexual orientation or gender orientation, and in the courtroom as the scientist at large will agree with me to a point where it mitigates dissensions. I get to make a slap on the wrist. And I'm like so in this case, I am rooting for a prosecutor to come in and throw your ass on the December. So I don't know what that means for me. I don't know what that makes me. But I don't think I'm alone in that, you know, 'cause I'm sick of reading these stories, and then we get there. And it's like, yeah. He got six years life for murder if you just walked up in the street and cold-bloodedly shot someone in the fucking face. They had done nothing to you. You will get long into that. You know, you just walked into the house and killed your wife. Or your husband, or whatever you get longer than that got killed his girlfriend? Well, he got to go to jail along in that as soon as you say trans. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That must be stakes worker who was going to rob him and attack. You know, they must have tried to try to come onto him. And it's kinda like a defense. I mean, you can't help yourself. You gotta kill people like shoulda shoulda. So while so it's interesting how the genders flip depending on what how people feel about shit. I want people to know that because she was transgender doesn't mean she was not love that. She was not care for said, Jessica shontae sto Kelly's mother, and then the interview ABC news. She says she has a family who cared about her who loved her. And I want them to know that transgender ladies expressly those colors. They're not. They're just not throwaways people care about them. She was educated. She was Garfield. She loved her. She loved others human being in the United States, America. You have the right to be who you wanna be. And you shouldn't be shamed. Or bully. Are persecuted for the choice. You make the victims. Cousin into co are maps and calm started to go from you paid the family pay for Kelly's funeral cars. A little cruise a spokesman for us. Both LGBTQ nonprofit anti-violence project called balance against trans women the national epidemic and noted Kelly sto spoke out on the balance against him. And just a few years ago only to become a victim of violence. We mourn the loss of her life at the anti-violence project and will work to honor her up lifting the whole of her life as a vibrant member of the Detroit community and ballroom seeing and not racer as a minimum number of statistic. And these was quoted by twenty fifteen in twenty fifteen guarding and five on the murder of twenty year old black transgender woman the article was quotas, though, using her stage name keenum, Mattel a Canada tale. Focused on trans residents not feeling to protect about a choice. Police the police are unaware with struggles. So they have no sympathy for asto told the new site. Nobody ever ask what happened to that person to get here? Stowe's murder case has been assigned especially prosecutor, Jamie Powell Horowitz who works for the fair. Michigan Justice project are pro Bono collaboration between fair Michigan. The LGBTQ advocacy group in the Wayne County prosecutor office Dana Nessel, president of fair Michigan and the state's attorney general said FM J P was founded because she and other LGBTQ advocates noticed the exponential rise in hate crimes really against all minority communities, but especially against the LGBTQ community kowcase is were going unresolved dominion them, quite frankly were not investigated. Very well, they were not being Saul not being charged. And certainly there were no convictions. Like, I say what's the value over trans? Life was the value of LGBTQ life. Sister found in other fair Michigan Justice project. Twenty sixteen noted the group has a one hundred percent conviction rate. Yeah. Because it's not like these crimes are hard to convict is. Is there a wherewithal to convict them? It's not like I mean, no offense. But it's not like these fuckers spill, they gotta be careful. I got a SAS Nate as far as I gotta be careful with how they're like. No one gives a fuck. So I'm gonna kill this person is nothing. No one's going to do going about my normal everyday life. Right. Thanks to the one million dollar bills for the suspect and stoves murders sign how seriously Michigan prosecutors now take crimes LGBTQ community at she is warning Torney general Nestle promise to use Alvis to push for an update to Michigan's ethnic intimidation statute, the name of the state's hate crimes law to be more clear. The more clearly include LGBTQ and gender nonconformity people. So far this happened late twenty eighteen so far twenty eighteen at least twenty-five trans people have emerged in the US. The vast majority of whom are young women of color, according to human rights campaign. So yeah. Glad to smile. Fuck is going to going to hopefully, go to prison and glad to the criminal Justice system seems to be taking shit serious time. Because that is that's harrowing and inoculate reinforcing that whole stigma of like, yeah. But I mean, it could really be he was paying again or whatever like, I think all that matters. And in the fact that this guy was a preacher. I wonder what's going to happen. When that relax what that relationship was. You speculated like, I wonder what happens, you know? Japan will force transient people to be sterilized before transitioning. What? Yeah. Human rights LGBT activists have denounced a controversial ruling by the supreme court. Japan of holding a lotta effectively requires transgender people to be sterilized before they can have their gender chains and on a Fisher documents, so such that you cannot reproduce the court said allows unconstitutional because his meant to reduce confusion, and families and society, but it did knowledge that it restricts freedom and could become out of step with changing social values. The two thousand four loss days that people wishing to register gender. Change must have their original reproductive organs, including testicles or ovaries removed have a body that appears to have parts that resemble genital organs are the gender. They want to register more than seven thousand eight hundred happenings have had their gender change. Officially according to the Justice ministry statistics cited by public broadcaster NHK the unanimous decision by four judge panel panel. I'm sorry pub. Published? Thursday rejected an appeal by the by Takito who sui a transgender man who said four sterilization, violates the rights of self-determination and is unconstitutional, right? Yeah. Things. That's the thing is not really about freedom about trapping you in a new set of rules. Well, now, here's this box. You won't be. I'm punish you like you. So you want to do this. Because if you want to do this, you better sterilize, also, and you can change, you know. Despite the unanimous decision. Presiding Justice memorial Muir Mura. Join another Justice in saying that while the law may not violate the constitution doubts. Undeniably emerging according to the twice lawyer Tommy asked Yama the two judges propose regular reviews law inappropriate measures from the viewpoint of respect for personality. Individuality there's a prank court decision. Andy sways legal value, but a battle. But he has lawyer said the opinions in the ruling left with without my question is this who pays for these surgeries? Because this is the cows. You telling me to do this. Do you cover it? And you told me to do this. Do I have to come out of pocket? So now, only are you telling me that I have sterilize myself. I got to pay the customer on sterlisation does makes no sense. Like extra extra cost prohibitive, major to make people not want to surgery. Correct. Which means I can't get the documentation. In now because I can't discern you to me, but is knows calls prohibitive. Yeah. I don't know who pays for their. That's that's true. I don't know enough about their after system to really say. To really say. I mean, it's fucked up all the way around. But if you're gonna make this rule you need to cover because you fucking brew. Yeah. I mean in this up like this like this is not just the only thing about it. Also applies to believe disabled people what? Yeah. Last year, another ruling-party lawmaker meals Gupta was condemned at the saying in a magazine the government shouldn't use tax money for LGBTQ rise because same sex couples aren't productive. So basically, y'all can't create babies, so we shouldn't even put any tax money. Tours of you know, helping Japan does not really recognize same sex marriages as LGBT right awareness has gradually grown recent years. Some UNICEF polities have issue in partnership certificates to ease problems and renting apartments and other areas. But they are not legally binding. That are very much like America just a few years ago before everybody gets on hot worse about this shit. Like this. We were not we were doing this, and we weren't necessarily making the surgery thing. But we were definitely doing your marriage is not a marriage marriage. I mean, we recognize that in Maine, but in travel like hour one way or the other you'll ask Mary, no, more, right? Like, his thank you full participation certificate. We're trying to be married, but, you know, a real documentation as far as you know. But I wanted things put this is like. Mickey Mouse coins. Mickey Mouse, Dallas you can only use it in there. Disney World while delaying these places day about this game tokens, and it was wild to me is that you know, once that happened a lot of people treated like we got to the mountain top. And this why Trumka undo out today? For all his rights and allies and shit. Focus was real comfortable with the idea of Trump winning in order for it to happen. And now that has happened. I mean, everyday people live on. You know, hoping that this don't have some new challenge in all these days are challenging these laws locally hoping to escalate to the supreme court because they notice a frame court is now a Republican supreme court. So it's like, yeah. And I'm having a roof eight again Virk. It's going to be even worse. Like, yeah. People have done decades. Irreparable harm to the humanity in the United States. I'll and many of those people under the guise of I'm so liberal that I can't support this like like people have let these be worse. Just you know out of the hubris in some in some cases. And of course, obviously, the people that want this to happen. They voted for this. And also is one of the things to when they were talking about gay and people be married, you know, and win the minority. Non white people saying, hey, y'all y'all white boast is happy and joyous. Okay. We get married now. But what about this other shit? It will fuck up big wire we've made it we've arrive and people haven't forgotten that. So now, you won't us to be to to push your problem front of odds again because she had is about to be reversed. So now here again possibly I mean hasn't started yet. We'll see what has happened yet. But I think everybody's rights push back. Like, it's not just I think would with our country is really scars transpeople. And by the way, that people start treating transpeople is indicative of how everybody else is going to be treated, and you know, it's not fair because at least protected, but that's the Canarian coma situation of. Okay. What does this ministration? Thanks about transpeople. Okay. So then what do you think they think about Joe is right? As a woman as a black person as an immigrant as a poor person are like, they don't think anything different about you. Then they think about the least protect the people in our society is just those people that can do it too overtly out leeann depend on the rest of the feeling behind them. Like. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm not trying. So that's fine. And or you know, it's about my principal. So whatever happened to them for them is shit. And you know, I'm just sick of it. Right. Nobody cares into into the day rights that they can. You to say there's nobody gives a fuck about nobody else's rights into your rights is taking give talk about everybody's rights. Everybody's rights matter. Severally more than a dozen handicap people have foul losses. Japan's government for having been sterilized against their will under nineteen forty eight eugenics protection law that was in effect until nineteen ninety six. At least sixteen thousand five hundred people were sterilized without consent under the law, which allow doctors allows people with disabilities and was designed to prevent the birth of poor quality, the Senate, some some orphans were also sterilize the government has maintained sterilizations were legal. What is happening here? Solid. Same out the same path and United States different. I did it here. No carolina. They had to pay the had to pay him in a bunch of money 'cause they sterling is them years ago. So connected teen charged with murder transgender woman seventeen year old boy accused of fatally shooting a transgender woman lashing secluded area. The south side was ordered held without bail Sunday. Tramonte hill was charged with I agree. Murder in August thirteenth. Land of Stanton. At twenty four year old trans want me he was in a sexual relationship with Cook County. Assistant stays attorney. Brit Steinberg said a Bill hearing and Layton criminal court building Stanton. Reseda takes hill the morning of her killing asking her to meet him and a lot just at eleven AM to shot. Spotter alert Faust and land on the ground. I car with the. Gunshot wound to her head. She was rushed to Stroger hospital and pronounced dead within minutes of the shooting. Chicago police and the and the Cook County medical examiner's office reported at the time take messages between hill and reveal that their sexual relationship again earlier in the summer when they arrange to meet at the empire hotel. The pair started communicating with each other and July and each other more than four hundred messages stopped about eight minutes before stand was fatally shot over multiple tax. He'll urged into the photos of him from her phone, which she later did Stemmer say he'll also tells standing that their sexual relationship causing becomes suicidal. So you got this do and this is what I'm talking about. Like he's struggling because of that masculinity. Fragile because he can't even come to grips with himself being attracted to sexually romantically to transform it. Where do you learn that from where did that come from to the point? Where you become suicidal in violent nothing should make you feel that way. Right. Like like, we're talking about trans person. But let's bring it to other groups people date, right? If you were dating someone outside your race, and you started feeling suicidal in violent towards him and wanted to erase all evidence of ever being together. While still texting them four hundred times over the course of several months. What what does that say about you? Where did you get that from right? If it was like because I'm dating someone else on my race because I'm dating someone who's poor because I'm dating someone who's immigrant. We will look at that. And be like that's ridiculous that person should go to imprison something's wrong with this person. Right. Correct. But this is the only situation where we hear these stories and people go, clearly, they were tricked, or you know, I mean, this is what happened when you get tricked. He he gave you know, something like that. And that's in his head to and that's the shit that makes these. Act out the judgment. They feel that it's gonna come from society because it's taboo in this so wrong. And what does it say about me as a man now? So now have to kill someone because me and can always solidify their masculinity with we have something we always had that well of going through which is a win in doubt be violent towards someone. And then we will new your crown again, right? Yes. So I was executed. A search warrant of heels. Home and found pants was small red stains and other clothing match. What surveillance video show he'll was wearing today at a murder they need to close the way. He'll dean seventeen and dumb. Yup. Heels. Probably the finish head on record is the only evidence, and there was no surveillance video of the murder judge Mary C Marito or the hill without by bell at the saying she took into consideration extensive electronic evidence clueless shot spotter alert, the tracking of his movements from cell towers, and that he stopped texting Stanton at the time of the murder. So he didn't even take afterwards. So he didn't even try to have an alibi. Like, I was just looking for my girl. I don't know what happened. He was charged as an adult with no, no publishable criminal history. And it was scheduled to review or his mail Monday. He can just break up with like we have been. This relationship is too much. And you know, what let's break up until I get myself together them. That's okay. Like like, I don't have a problem with people be like, you know, what I thought I could handle it. I realize I came the, you know, you go your way, I'll go mine union now, I can't handle this. And that's okay to be like, I can't relationship. There's people getting relations all the time. It can't handle it for whatever reason they thought they could. And then you break up, and that's the end. It's not. And then I kill you know, that to mean just proves how unprotected the think that person's life is that you like, and I gotta kill you do, of course. Fan limousine takes a hundred times. I last Dory. Reggie Bullock's as part of his all-star break visiting LGBTQ youth. Reggie Bullock was planning on going on vacation in NBA all star break, but his day is taking talking to middle school in Charlotte about inclusion Reggie Bullock, the NBA player he was planning on. Yeah. Like, I say taking medication and want to be traded to the Lakers from the Detroit Pistons and just twenty five games left to seize Bullock was hoping to take his mind off basketball before we realize where the NBA all star game was taking place from North Carolina. Six seven guards as he didn't Holloway of Martin Luther King junior middle school in Charlotte. It's good to be back here. I wanted to come back to my home state this weekend and try to have a positive impact. Look who grew up in canton, North Carolina man spoke with twenty five LGBTQ youth and allies from time out youth thinner a space for LGBTQ youth install area Bullock has been advocate in LGBTQ community says twenty fourteen when his transgender sister Mia Henderson who he knew as his older brother Kevin long when they were growing up was stabbed to death. It was good for me to be able to beat out with them and talk to them and hit us stories. They weren't holding back on anything. I opened up my eyes to what they had to go through daily, basically when you randomly while pass on you never really know what they're going through trying to educate. Myself every day as a straight man on this community that I stand up for and support Bullock's Hong game is a Laker will be Thursday night. While the season is almost over. He will become a free agent that summer he hopes to have impact in LGBTQ community in Los Angeles. I'm definitely going to try to do some stuff in the community. He said he's in a six I would love to be a leader in the LGBTQ community in Los Angeles and be able to use my voice and platform to stand up for them. Bullock didn't know much about the LGBTQ community. When me it was a lot. He continued to car Kevin to her dying day. She never got to see him play college basketball, North Carolina because bully didn't know what his teammates are the people were think as she didn't want to make things uncomfortable for him. He smiles when he thinks that what you say about his vomiting community. Now. I know she'll be proud of what I'm doing. It will probably bring taste or is. I know she looking down on me and smile, and knowing that her brother is doing the right things to keep her name alive. And I notice he's not forgotten. She can't be here with me physically. But she's with me spiritually own every an everyday. Basis leading me and got me. Yeah. That's bad that it took her death for him to like come to a reckoning with that shit. I mean, honestly. But I mean, I guess is good just going forward. But yes, it's sad. It she never got to see him be bowl like that. And it took, you know, seeing like no witness her basically die to educate themselves. But a lot of times people don't realize like say, you don't realize is you sometimes you in your life. And then you go, oh, this a really big fucking problem. And no one's talking about it, and I was using ours in my privilege being like, I don't even talk about. Over to all, right. I saw some comments from John Wayne that was racist from nineteen seventy-one playboy interview. And I'll tell you guys. That's it says raising stuff says, homophobic, stuff and. I'm officially tally. I'm I'm done with jar Wayne, I will not be supporting any more of his movie projects. Like the next thing. He put out I'm not seeing it day in the same, man. It was on airport jar airport, California. Yes, I won't be supporting y'all could continue supporting him if you want to, but I won't be supporting his movies or anything that he does from here on out. So he's he's dead to me. Okay. Is open him. We're rod, okay. Let me ask you a question candy. You pronounced it. The ES in Cecchi ET's these Chucky. I don't know. I I call Chucky cheese. Right. I do too. Does a black thing. Thanks to everybody thing. I think that's old black thing. They will. A certain certain things I do most of the time. I don't do way you say black people will throw s on everything that people will now that's what I'm saying. But that's so this the opposite, though, Chucky cheese, you take an alpha Cecchi teases, but people people do it with other stuff all the time. Like Neiman, Marcus is or. You know, like, they add Teini's. Yeah. Sally's beauty supply. Come on his Sally. We normally alleys we normally act possibly as Chucky cheese. Got gotta be the only thing we take off of see what you're saying. Okay. Yeah. We take Alpo via 'cause Sally's 'cause because technically Chucky cheeses, that's the name of it. It's not. It's not check UT's. Oh, yeah. We're going to check the cheese. No, you're going to take teases. That's his house just what he live. That's his resited. I say Chucky cheese, like a type of cheese Swiss cheese, come out homeostasis, cheddar cheese in Turkey tease. Come out. Right. No. I don't know if it's a black thing. Just everybody thing. Out that show Ma I mean that movie Ma would I'll tell you have you seen the trailer for yet? What about my? No, okay. I'll tell you. This is playing a black woman, and she befriends all these kids from high school. And then she starts fucking making a live living HALE and visiting bitten. Base and pieces creek. I hope that she's secretly stocking out kids that'd be snitch. And normally, Obama Kaz. I wish they somebody's telling all by business, and I won't Monaco visit them and just be like, oh, let that girl live. I have some podcast and advice. Sometimes people ask me about podcast and vice as podcast, and the rice I like to depart on all the are. And a lot of independent creators need to hear this. Okay. So dear independent podcast and or amateur porn creatives. Please change the smoke along in your battery and your house. Okay. Yeah. 'cause he'd be every three minutes ain't cool. Sincerely, a fan. All right. I'm not trying to come down on you. Okay. I support the arts but change your mother fucking smoke detector along doubt this Noyon. I don't live there. I haven't gotten used to it. This is the KOMO now. Yahoo looking stupid now. I'm just a that's nice enough to tell you the truth about the show, a lot of people would be afraid to tell you the truth. But that's what you got ride here for is that he's not afraid to be honest with you. I'm not being mean about it. But you need change this year. Every two minutes and thirteen seconds. I don't need to hit that beat. Why are you trying to make an important point? Now, I'm in my house like is my smoking long going on. I know you looking wait a minute. We change us mogul leader it open like once or twice a year. Somebody that change when it's. Just saying. What other random thoughts that? I have. Oh, I'll douse the shopping at Publix because that's where I go. Now. I came all the way around I'll public's I liked him. Now, you know what I did too? Because now just out a person note, they don't need to push my buggy out unless they want them real like super fuck in like aggressive people. Aggressive. They won't even get you to chain Utah. You turn around and you'll you'll be happy to take this to you, call them. Like, I mean is either that he's still? Slow to cook there on you way. Yes. We'd go to the com-. Now, let's have a conversation about the weather. That's normally what happens. I wanted today. Ever get tired of talking about the where there 'cause people do. Oh, this is the way that we have in the day. It is whether and it is happening. I know you hate us say you see the weather from earlier. Yes. It was different in the weather from now. And I bet it will be different in the weather and future. That is correct. You have a great day you too coupon. Right. Get a coupons out. No more probably because we're not a new store anymore. I don't know. But I don't know anything to get it over sooner. But yet other data checkout poets, and this woman, she was the first time shopper there. She was unloaded her stuff. And she turned around me. I have my headphones in that. She was like excuse me. And I said man, ma'am, took my headphones out. She said you shop here often not said, yes, she said, well, do I need like a special light card or something? So I can get these discounts. And I'll say ma'am, every customer at Publix is VIP come on. And every item is already a good savings. You've gotta know cart. And that was not a that was just how I like I was like may you don't need the IP. You are already a VIP going to get your savings on. The other day. I had to ask what is the? Correct service is of girl scout the admits is it a sleeve or is it a box. Does anybody know what does appropriate sizing it? I've been going with sleeve three cookies I'm going with the sleeve. I haven't looked at nutrition on the back of the box. But I I assume a sleeve is serving size because it's the only that sell control. You can just eat us lead. Yeah. Is the whole box. I only ate a sleeve mom getting better Kito. But I think they need to start his Cottam fat mint. That's what they keep me. Okay. Guys. 'cause that's what I that's me. Doing stand up in my brain down in another sleeve theme. It my they miss more like that mint. Am all right. Figments keeping me think come on the way big. All right in the last thing. So says we've been off the air. So major news happen are Kelly has been arrested indicted being charged. We'll get into the details of it because we're so excited. Okay. I love it. This is the kind of Chicago PD police work support. Yeah. I do I support this or duress. Oh, are you? What you ever? I'll admit I was giddy decided his black man of yes emitted. I don't like that nigga. I think he's got them. Pedophile APIs too bad. If he goes to prison. I don't care whatever happens to happens. You can't trick me in the feeling bad for this nigga. Nope. But yes, so he more video came out. It was just like I said to remember when I was like. I'm glad they did R Kelly document documentary, I understand people have misgivings. Yes, it sucks to see people that are abusers in the documentary talking about. Right. It was like Spiderman vitamin and I feel everybody day triggering, and I couldn't watch it. And I said I'm just so thankful for his documentary because a guy like that does not stop. He has he someone like that has one they have they think they're invincible you they think they figured the system out. Why would he ever fucking stop? And I believe he heads out filming himself. I believe. Were underage girls. All this shit. Nope. And doing documentary everybody thought about a bag a bigger bag full of tape. So you know tape somewhere, right? And so new videos came out. With him having sex with a fourteen year old and the Inada new accusation that charges women coming forward. Gloria Allred the guard out here representing. And so he got put on a Nobel warrant that was issued for him appeared in court, then he got like a million dollars bond. So you have to put up a tenth of that ten thousand dollars one hundred thousand dollars. He don't even have one hundred thousand dollars. His lawyers say his finances are in disarray doesn't have money. So that means that hopefully, you are Kelly stuff was working. Hopefully who knows he could just be be lying. We're not just gonna say lying, but he could have just spit his money on a bunch of other too. You know, but hopefully that are Kelly shit is what kept him, you know, like a word, I hopefully, keep them from having money. And this is my almost say hypothesis crops or prediction that is started affecting his income like own alot people started slowly Dame didn't even make it public. Why he may have been on it? And they just took him off. Like, you know, they make no announcement next thing. You know, he just all of the the list of artist, you know. His label drop him. You know, sponsorship went down like so yes, it has defect about him. Right. Which is your money. Anything spencer? Did not go down. Yeah. I don't know what his money looks like may. But there's this name where so a lot of people think. When we talk about money like, oh, yeah. It's a lot of money because like liquidity lives liquid look how you get around. You're right. That's a mistake. A lot of people make. Same thing happens where athletes will you go. How did this athlete Indo broke? If you're spending the money, you're getting in because because your mind, you're so I'm going to get more money. Correct. I'll just do another tour. I'll put out another album our will make another video. And so as long as you keep thinking where the money will keep coming in. Guess what you start doing start spending based on what you expect to happen. It's not just the people like us there live check to check its rich ask celebrities and shit that also have that mentality of easy commies go. So it is possible for him to have to be broke right now. It's possible for him not to have this money to get out of jail and a guy like that should have a hundred thousand dollars sitting around and want to get out of jail. It's not like he's gonna be in. There like platinum plan in like, yeah. Let the people see me in jail. Now, he will to see you wanna be free. He wanted, you know, but they took his passport have contact with people under eighteen so, you know, I could definitely see. Him not just not having the money and shit. And for some reason, people don't think that think well, you celebrity you should have like you have expenses money goes in money goes out the same thing. And guess what? The MO money you make the more your expenses are, you know, right because to earth, quote, unquote, that's a lot of money, right? Once you're in the round that he's in. That's not really a lot of money, right? Because he's been leading assets for years now losing houses. Right. So there's not paying child before. Like, it seems that this has been a thing of him. Like there's been signs at the boycott was working. And you know, and that's a new Kelly was an actual boycott. They had goals in mind. The head demands in mind, they organized they went our March. It wasn't no offensive the cabinet people shit. But it wasn't just I don't feel like watching this come on. It was. No, no, no, no. When this happens, then we will be satisfied. And I. It really hurt his money enough that he ended up fucking imprisoning can't even make Bill then streaming services. Now Ohno a lot of actually allow you to suppress like like, whereas certain artists strips showing artists your Liz, they won't pop up. You can kinda kinda meet the artist and once bat was was was implemented people just muted him. So now you talking about you streaming go down, which is where everybody, you know, mostly might them on alpha streaming nowadays think years ago, he was still number one pop on the charts. One of the last time he had a number one song pop charts is being fucking hot minute. So all this income is not there anymore. Like, you said you could slow you slowly seen over time with their income has went down. Because like you say you losing homes not paying for a that. That means money isn't coming in like a used to doll. Started taking house aggravated criminal sexual abuse by county state attorney office regular tame by Daily Mail dot com revealed and most of the county was charged with on Friday involved girls who between the ages of thirteen and sixteen into time the fourth who claimed she was assaulted by Kelly in two thousand three was over the age eighteen at the time of the alleged offence. Kelly fifty two will appear in buying core on Saturday and then be formally charged on March eighth. At the for. The Managua go police headed a Nobel arrest. Rest. More to bring in Kelly the Jewish signed off on the order. Kelly was previously deny allegations of abuse to his lawyer who was unaware the charges against his client when contacted on Friday afternoon. I honestly think I could be a defense lawyer. Not not morally, obviously, but I feel like four guilty rich person is so easy. Like, what did depends lawyers even have to do? They just go on TV and be like, they didn't do it. And no matter what you say. They didn't do it. They didn't do nothing. They didn't do anything Robert Kraft gets arrested for getting hand jobs and fucking spy, Florida. His lawyer was a on TV. He didn't do nothing. They all got. No is all fake. He denies all wrongdoing. He didn't nothing wrong. Okay. Jussie smollet star the evidence stars and kind of fake on him looking bat may or may not have have basically done a hate crime coordinated hate crime against himself possibly his lawyer. He just did nothing wrong. Okay. Not one thing. All this. Just win. Incidences this just as cargo PD trying to frame innocent. Black man gets fuck out my face same thing. Bill. Cosby the tactic is denied denied denied not tonight. Even. You just. And then other one was is our Kelly. Hey, hey, he didn't do nothing wrong. Okay. All these women are lying. They are trying to frame this, man. He is just a black, man. Chicago PD are not racist. Let my free. He didn't do nothing wrong. Like, I like how much do you gave eight? You know to be able to do that. Hey, nothing to see here. Nobody is ever. Like, actually, I can see how how this looks bad. They are like no what? Parents thought their main would do something like that. So because y'all got twenty five years evidence, it is man possibly preying on children, y'all niggers out here, Tom. Wow, crazy. Wow. I can't even believe my eyes y'all really just going to say this to my face. I'm sorta as his lawyer, please make the check out to cash, okay? This crazy like his lawyer been getting into with people shit. Like, what are you even pay for? He said on one of the cases down number interviews with a young lady says a lot about how old I was Greenberg told reporters and then recently said, oh, no. I lot about li-. How I was jammed era. Goddess was quitting. He's a reporter in Chicago. That's really been our Kelly's ads for years. He was quick to point out debt Greenberg. Statement was inaccurate the writer pointed out that the accusing question admitted that she initially lied to Kelly. But then she eventually showed the singer her real idea which proves she was age. He said don't misquote a victim, Mr. Greenberg. That's not what she said. She was here today. Did you see her tears? The attorney there mentioned there got us. Oh, coming book about the Kelly case just in the right had alterior motive, I don't give a fuck about selling single book. Got us reply. I've talked to that woman. I've talked to forty seven others. I'm not Mr Michael Ascher Noddy, and I'm not you. Let's keep it professional Greenberg. Said don't swear me Greenberg went on to say Kelly has yet to get the bomber together. But it's hoping he'll be released sometime this weekend there turning also maintains client's innocence stated he never forced anyone aspects. Okay. Well, that's fine. Most you can I mean fourteen, but I didn't force them professional because a lot of people only consider right to be like physical assault like punching someone, but you're talking about a Chow Chow, okay? Consent. There's some fifty four year old man came home with your fourteen year old relative Taga mouth. I didn't force myself on them. You still end up kicking chest. Nobody's going to be like, well, I guess is. Okay. You know, washes people everybody, I don't know what we do. I am not going to be like, well, I guess is. All right. Then we'll see. I mean, I it's not rate rate as we'll be over to fuck out my face. He's a rockstar. He doesn't have to have non consensual sex Greenberg said. That's his lawyer, y'all. Tell me any of us couldn't do that job. Like, what's the difference? Any can do job. He knows you can do that. It wasn't me. Hey, we'll me next question. It wasn't me. Right. May you doing right? Good greed. Also, I mean, look all of us can look at somebody fourteen it'd be like that person fourteen. What the right you can look at child until the tab as a child. It's like they try to get you these like hypothetical like realities that don't really exist where we're all like de persons fourteen. I thought they were thirty seven started talking. You can tell a talent as a child a man with a history of having sex with underage children. Yeah. No need for me to take. Audie can eyeball. It took. Oh my God. All right. Let's see what else is happening. A judge strikes down the North Carolina voter ID law. That was okay by voters shout out to activist judges. The law was bullshit voter ID law. But and that's why they was like we don't give a fuck what they voted on. It shouldn't have ever went to the voters in the first place. He voted constitutional amendments approved by voters in November requiring photo identification vote in person and capping the state income tax rate. The judge sided Friday with the stay in AA CPI, which argue lashes edition of the general simply that voted to put amendments to the North Carolina constitution on the ballot was legally constituted due to racially gerrymandered districts right end up Lacey pe- challenge for amendments only two of them the voter idea income tax cap were approved by majority of voters. Wake County way court. Superior Court Judge me white county. Anyway, Brian Collins wrote their amendments placed on the ballot by legislator that did not represent the people in North Carolina. The decision could be appealed legislative leaders who are sued. So we'll see what happens from there. But shut out to the fight. Fuck them. We shouldn't have to have no damn idea vote right Virginia Republicans plan hearings and the sexual allegations against attendant governor, Justin Fairfax. Before we move on light in the shipping is that the people that fucking pass these laws what about a motherfucker dead fucking cheated. And now they're actually going back and forth about his his his his son was like daddy. He actually testified against his daddy was my daddy. You know that this do that you work in with. Yeah. I looked at dig into him. 'cause the do he's working loss running before. He was like there's something fishy about his absentee ballots. He's dead on him. And okay, fuck you. They call him. His son was like your test. The yes my daddy cheated. Him. I'm sorry. I didn't make me mad when you pass these fucking lousy. But y'all talking about an idea when nigga one's cheating. Oh, yeah. Just no. I'm just letting golf, but I have the details of it here as well. For those who don't know about it. So. In the Lana. We have a we had a district district nine live nine are knife. Condensed couldn't gresh district. We have some voter fraud. There was let's see it was Republican Mark Harris he committed systemic election fraud. There's overwhelming evidence that a man named Ledley McCray. Dallas who took motherfucking pictures with each other at a Republican ran into legal operation to harvest and Ford absentee ballots in North Carolina's ninth congressional district. What was less certain how much Mark Harris knew about it? The North Carolina State board of elections is holding hearings to help it decide whether to order new election they did in the official cow. And by the way, he can run again in the official. I don't understand feel like disqualify you. Right. And somebody else ought to run in the official count hairs is leading his democratic opponent. Dammit Creedy by Niger the five os on Wednesday. Mark harasses, son. John assistant US attorney testified. He repeatedly warned us father about McRae. Dallas his tactics in phone calls and emails John Harris told his father that he believed MacRae. Dow's dollars was breaking the law. Law and emphasized the legal and political risk of hiring Cray. Dallas for the two thousand eighteen campaign Marquette's ignored warning and hired McRae dollars. Anyway. Then when McRae dials the legal activities where I suppose Marquez claiming to be taken completely by surprise. In the twenty six Republican primary. Mark Harris faced incumbent, congressman Robert pittenger. The fellow challenger tod Johnston and final challenge. Todd johnson. Pittenger ended up narrowly defeating hairs in Johnson before finished third that evening. John Harris Motta's mother and father to flag. Their Johnson gotta significant disproportionate significantly disproportionate share unusual number as t- by mail votes in blading county. John Harris, discrepancy maybe worth investigating. Indeed, the results were stark Johnson received two hundred and fourteen absentee male votes in blading county, heresy four and pittenger receives none John Harris Toda's dad that he was concerned songs collecting ballots, which is legal Mark Harris Toda's stunned that might that night that someone was running Johnson St. ballot operation and that person was McRae. Dow's. It's when team McRae. Dow was foul a complaint, alleging Democrats committee voter fraud. Right in an Email to a sunset, November fourteen to sixteen Marquez noticed McRae. Dallas's saying guy Johnson paid the run ST ballot program guests he didn't like to come into his business marketers quipped. Right. So marketers new. Just in case. Mark Harris the guy who was taken completely by surprise knew. This was the guy who we hire later to run his campaign. He knew that it was it was his business, quote unquote, Marquez jokes jets that as of November twenty six Marquez is well aware McRae. Douses was a fraudster in twenty seventeen. He got a warning Marquez met where McRae Dallas about potentially running an absentee ballot operator his campaign next day. Marquette spoke with his son John hairs reminded his father that he thought McCray dollars broke the law during jaaz twenty sixteen campaign. He believed MacRae Dallas was harboring a harvesting ballots, which is legal in North Carolina. Mark Harris said he believed MacRae douses operation was legal added. A phone call John Harris emailed, his father. The key thing that I'm fairly certain. They do that as illegal is that they collect the complete a acetate ballots mail them all at once John Harris wrote he included a copy of the criminal statute. Mark Harris was brainstorm scenarios in which McCray. Dowers? Might not be breaking the law in the Email to Marquette say mom brought up a good point. Maybe they just go with the person to their personal mailbox put it in. And raise the red flag for the mailman to pick up, you know, stupid in another Email jars as father to consider whether he'd be comfortable with the four process McRae. Dallas using uses being broadcast on the news. John Harris also row based on the regularity associated with McRae. Dow was working twenty sixteen should be prepared for negative, publicity and possible criminal education. I raise red flags time was made to hire mR dollars. John hare said said despite these warns warnings his impression is his father had already made up his mind to hire McCray. Dallas because he had demonstrated a record of success. So he cheated successful in the past. Why not John Harris? He thought McRae. Dallas was breaking the law. And I was right. Mark Harris say he said, no one warned him. So you so you might even though his own son at worn them. He said, no, no one turn into new. It was like, hey daddy. Daddy, dead. It like this ain't gonna end wail and hit. There was like fuck it. So you basically forced to because the position of his was like a fuck you day. Yes. I'm gonna tell the truth. Yeah. You did it. Yeah. You had him his the proof. John Harris had testified multiple times that he warned his father multiple times. But an interview last month, Mark Harris said, you know, I guess you could say almost took a pastor Lee role to McRae Dallas, I found to be very enjoyable man who chatted with and again, everyone that I talked to seem to respect them and seem to love them. I had no reason to think otherwise got them. Why Marquez asked in the interview widen becomes suspicious McRae dollars taxes and twenty thousand primary and that race Harris collect the four hundred thirty seven Steve valid votes and blading county to pittenger's twelve why would I? This success was a bad thing. He said it an they have emails. He's in another January interview. Harris said he never heard one red flag about McRae. Dallas. You never heard one Ray of flack, no not net mean in that mean, it was very clear, but all ever know, except I will later. Learn obviously there have been things in the past Abby looked into. But everything that have been looked into everything come out perfectly fine. Harris, they all the people. He talked to spoke very highly McRae. Dallas and said that he had learned about McRae dollars activities in December twenty eighteen and what he found out. He was in period. December third twenty eight at the federal investigation today campaign with lies John Harris. The son emailed his parents say that you need to cut out contact to the vest. Gatien was over says he works for the department of Justice, right? Jars also probably realized based on what he knew about McRae. Dallas. They he might have been required testified by what he knew speaking with his father could have been Tibert as Everton obstructive education. Marquez did not turn over emails to investigators John. Here's discover the emails with just five about McCray. With his father about McRae Dallas by searching his own account December. His father's attorney told him that the campaign will provide Email to investigators in late January John Harris learned that never happened. So he's turned emails over to investigators himself. Coordin- Marquez is attorney. He didn't know his son testified today. The emotional including John Harrah's grasp the significance of his testimony. I love my dad, and I love my mom. Okay. I certainly have no vendetta against him. No family scores to settle. I think they made made mistakes in this process. He said in his testimony Marquez listening from the audience cry. Wasn't eggs Marquez testify next McCray. Dallas McRae dowels refused to testify saying he would need criminal immunity before he answered questions, why you need the hair was supposed to conclude this week, but may end up taking longer and thing is own a low kudos to his son. Because this is the shit that people ask why people to do, you know, an X people do period has some fucking integrity. And you know, a lot of people would have folded never said. No emails. No. Because you know is family over everything. He was like y'all fucking. Crowding the vote is I one do. I'm not an the thing is. But it's not I'm not lose my fucking job. Because you also his dad. That she had in right? Like is is dad who he tried to tell not to do this? Right. Like, it wasn't like that thing. Whereas like, I did like I knew my dad was doing this. I was cool with it the whole time. It's like he was just hoping his dad we'll do the right thing because I'm sure that is full of shit. But it's totally son about doing the right thing fathers as opposed to tell their sons, and he wasn't doing any of that tries. It was a hard decision to make. But he was actually looking out for the greater good, which is devoting populists. Jussie smollet has been removed from the final empire season five episodes following the rest. So. I don't even know what people watch that show. What is what is the point? I don't know. But people watching it. Well, we'll see man, you know, every day is a new report of steals in weeks. Now, you still have contradicting information coming out and stuff and. You know, the the memo for the fair for training not. I mean as if the memo was safe for for attack on me, please or whatever. But more information is coming out with that you still like the meme like this base me like notice to enter into brothers never say the check was for the attack. So, you know, like this this this this training check, the police are presenting is evidence might not have nothing to do with this shit. Another thing that happened was someone takes between them are about training. You know, now what I think is happened is that jesse's people I started to leak sheet the towns to which to be honest, they should've been league and shit. Like anything? They can make the narrative night as one sided as house presented to everyone else. You can't beat them. You gotta join them to be honest 'cause leaks are going to happen. With the latest is this would've celebrity involved. The idea that day spectating that nothing should ever leak from. This investigation was always kinda stupid because every celebrity that gets any level of criminals scrutiny all that she ille- we all know it, you know, people try this case was different. But in any it ain't that difference kinda more normal than anything else. So. Yeah, you gotta get into game. T you gotta start leaking your own shit to be like this. Let me tell you what's really happening. So and and it was kind of obvious from jump that you could interpret the check two ways, you know, because he could be like, well, that's what people do when they get physical training. They write a check or possibly, you know. And that's about the right cost for physical training. You know? Also because they didn't have the text from his side. You know, but got to take from the brothers. You know, not. Although I doubt all the techs would be about that. Or if they would even talk about that on takes, you know, their stuff wears I can meet we need to talk about something. So if you smart likes, let's say he did set this up on himself, but he's not a fucking idiot. Then he throttles let's talk about this shit away from like something necking Cava track record. Why would I I'm not gonna fucking tattoo the plans to my, you know, hate crime or whatever. And every is investigating the letter that was received on the set that was specifically targeting him and saying that hey, we can't prove so far that he sent it. We don't know that yet. So we'll see. Maybe he didn't even send that letter to. So, you know, I'm still put it this way. I still would rather the best scenario Beata. He did not fake crime agreed now. Fortunately, I sack that means I hate crime happened to him. And you know, that's fucked up. I and maybe I'm looking foolish to people for this. But I don't care. I've been out feel if he got me he got me. I would rather be telling the truth. And this is just as us like misunderstanding coincidence. I'm not saying, I believe that to be honest. I don't think it looks good for him. But maybe there's a one percent chance. That's what it is. I would rather it be that. Because if not in this do really just threw away his career of some dumb shit. Now. Who knows what are the evidence? They have and stuff because police resented like a narrative at that that press conference they have, and I don't know that that narratives gonna hold up. We'll see. Trying to think it was something else case trying to. Oh, yes. I did. All right. But yeah, I keep I keep sharing and talking about that news because I try to cover it at every step because some people have been doing this cherry picking like the things that make them look guilty. The things that make them look innocent. Or we just not gonna talk about it, and knowing they talk about every other messy fucking thing on the planet, but this time, but his time we too good to talk about it. Let's talk about it. It's wrong. It's gonna work every works out with without us. Anyway. All right. Let's get into of some games do some fucking with black people. Puck damn with those fucking those lax. With people. That's right guys. Play the game. We all hate the play as we're black people the game. We'll go out around the globe articles make us feel fuck with and we'll find point scores one hundred twenty five days contestants everybody. Governor north going on his listening tour care at the black face controversy. Oh, no. He's canceled. The first out. Oh, and I wanted to. It now this this is kind of interesting. He cares. What it because he was more. He got a letter from the Virginia union university. Student government asking him not to attend a chapel service Thursday on a group of nineteen sixty civil rights protesters. Now's the cancelation on his Twitter account. I appreciate the original invitation VU use ministration, but I will abide by the students wishes I accept the student government association's invitation with further for future dialogue and honest conversation issues of race reconciliation equity. He said in a letter posted is account. I welcome opportunities. Listen, learn discuss how we can move Virginia Ford understandable. All right. So the two hundred zero he was wishes even but like I'm in any way, I give zeros well because there was no right answer. Correct. If he would've came we would've been like motherfucker, we told you not to come those black kids. Don't take your asthma thing you wear anyway proof that you are not an ally. And you do not listen, right? So he was spec they wish so now you re going mad, regardless. But I really respect they wish is not gonna and in all fairness they asked him to not come to this one. But they did say they will invite him to a future session. Specifically to talk to him. And he said he will attend sober meters. Zero right. You know, the only way is is those backup is if I find out they had they scheduled session to me gave them the stiff on like, I ain't gonna shit now. Then he can go fuck themselves. Right. But I'm okay with okay. Like. We'll we'll we'll sit down at a time when it's not about I won't be taken away. Attention from somebody else. The help imposed huff PO still in business. Pam fired their social media editor for being incredibly racist on. Social media social media, Cam Yati, Yati, social media, right? You got it. That is the correct answer. Karen? The goddamn job. She's opposed the half. Yoho job is social media, Dan, cut me on camera. How you get out on your day off? Right Hubbard impose fired recently higher. Los Angeles-based, social media editor also just got just got it grand. Opening grand closing proud any get to the ninety days for you GAM at her manager manages to the fact that she had an Instagram account belonging to the new hire. That was fewer racist ranks online using the now the leader Instagram account actually rose who was higher earlier this targeted a number of people with the sorta racist invective, you'd expect the finding darkest for chain threes, y'all wonder why we stereotype shoot away. I'm sorry. Yeah. Wonder why we stereotype and she are ignorant asses. You wanted to raise battle in this country. You got it. But in the end remember who makes the money in this country. But you gotta job at huff post, baby. Did now Fox News. Let's play who will be the next Trayvon spill incorrectly. And I'm gonna do have spelling problems. We don't wear Jordan spilled incorrectly or Nike in this house because knock it sucks politically. And here's father actually fought for this country's freedom status in jail sale. Others read combs porch. Monkey? And meagre. Hashtag mega. Now, I was saying not invited to our right, obviously, not. But I also say that she could be held at guest the race. I mean, these are some good name guesses. No. Now, I spoke to the woman runs account that rose targeted. She says you started because she wrote a post about supporting black owned businesses response rose wrote this only support white business from their escalated. Her post money to Ashley rose why bring her kid though. And she was she was founded why did it rub? You the wrong way. If it wasn't meant to be a Roo black power post. I see us professional language. I'll good tired of seeing your kid on my time line. Anyway, damn her kid. Somebody say, oh, she writes races nappy. Nigger porch? Monkey jesus. I'll let you know in time. It has a great life like his parents and Coolio is upstate with like his nigga be niggers with these. Good. Great. The woman they nickleby nigger in the woman talking about no rose who requested anonymity because he doesn't want any more negatively on page public. Attention says she was taking back vitriol the way rose talked about her child when rose I posted. I knew the word nigger was coming next. She said it usually does with that several of her followers Email heaven impose about rose behavior desk review responses from the company one from her post corrections Email accounts this morning, thanks for bringing to our attention. Huffpost does not tolerate discrimination in any form. And DOE of logic yourself off a different Email from the same Macau came yesterday morning. Hello. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Miss Rose's, not a her pulse. Employees and is no longer working with us in any capacity. The first ones that generic when that was the one you put out there to give actually give people time to look at it somebody that she no longer works here. I won't lie. I love him get over racist getting Firestone along. Now, the one that does. Another one another one another one and another one too. Hey. You don't oh. You know, what I hate about Mondays when you gotta go back to work. But I guess she won't have that problem anymore. The social media editor which you had a lot of incorrect, balancing, social media. Maybe you need to learn how to edit you'll sound. Visteon he'll still. I guess the ultimate edit is the league no account. Hey. No job this morning. Kicking. It didn't even get donors. Didn't mega passan behavioral crossed? Now, you got a lot of free time all the hurry time in the world. Sounds like you live in post job America. I hope you'll keys seven because you ain't got no damn job. Come on. Be there in prison with Coolio as you say amount autumn coons porch monkeys and Nichols is now looking at your job as as now who has a social media editor what out checking social media though, come on. Now, somebody not do they job. This just sitting out there. It had a real name attached to a to get some do their job. Anyway, I could see you know, if it was. Ngelo maga- make America great again with a last name. I can tell you not find an ad account. But she put a real name. Oh now. One hundred o zero because she logged grand opening grand closing. Yeah. I'll give it as euro. I'm not fucked with by. Alabama newspaper publisher calls on the KKK to get the ropes and clean up. DC? What what what is happening here? What happened a y'all just gentrify like normal? Now, y'all got the bring the KKK back. Can't you just keep driving the prices up on all of the blocks and put new weird square houses on people's fucking Brownstone shit. Ain't nobody won't we're having opening up pikes old fashioned soda shop and an Korean cuisine on the corner. Fusion avenue making two hundred square foot tiny house and tell them about this is the way with a future don't about about that. Right. Don't drive them projects. The bulldoze the puck is well. Well, you trust three thousand dollars a month for cloudy. What wasn't going fast enough for another? Client, gotta come back Jesus. Now, the newspaper poets and editor conflict KKK tonight ride again. Oh when I go through the night. Yeah. I guess I guess what? It's called. I honestly how raised you gotta be the no the like TM for that shit. Yeah. Because you're funny like I'm young. So I'm like night. Ryan. What does we night ride known? Right. Got it. Right. But that's not the same thing. You gotta be a real racist to like pull that one out of the closet to be like, oh, yeah. We had a name for that come out. Likely remember Knight rider and cross Brennan night tonight. Remember the night rides. Like, no, I don't remember that. Yeah. It was it was we had a great time. Come on. We got. Just go. Recognize heart. This pediatric care. Sorry. I didn't even hear that in the background. I was from article, but you know. Burn. That's the only kid. I got the cross burning kid. Okay. But Michael these niggers need to dive. God damn right. And we're going to go hang tonight. Michael it's time to burn some black people's houses. That's right kit. So the day mame nitrite is knowing that it was because now now now I'm second guessing he'll looking at my childhood. It was a white, man. Driving a black car leaving my child differently. I mean window do I mean, it was rare was random. I mean, you let me what's happening with kids. I'm just trying to figure out that was my jam. But it wasn't like Duca has it where it was blatant. So I'm trying to find out. What's happening? I'm looking at you has hall. What happened? I hope Mogo shit. I mean, come on night riders. Wow. Okay. I didn't know that that no one night with a K. Okay. Michael Knight KKK? Okay. I know I'm okay. And it shows my where I'll just think about right prior to people that sent him on Mitchell's name case from too, right? Childhood. I that was that's my jam. I I find out the do the has this. Fucking Dixie flag. And now what happened in my eighties? Okay. I know their flag inside the black coat. Nobody told me I mean was it was kit like internally KKK just coated over black leather. Let me know what's happening, and I'll be newspaper posing editorial column for the Ku Klux Klan tonight ride again editorial and then democrat reporter newspaper in Linden, Alabama. The KKK would be welcomed to raid the gated communities up there, you know, what that means. Oh, DEM Obama's. Don't sleep does the day telling that they need to get them. Obama's apparently fire to Democrats and Democrats in the Republican party live in and around Washington DC, the editor he'll blame both for plotting to raise taxes in Alabama. I always comes down to the money done it. Good low Sutton, the newspaper publisher told the Montgomery advertiser that he wrote the editorial. He was unapologetic. A we could get the clan to go up there and clean up. DC? We'd all be better off. He told the newspaper will get the Hambros out. Look them over tall. Limit. Hang all of them. Sudden also claim he was not calling for Lynch and of Americans these are socialist communist, we're talking about sudden also route against socialist communist out, the his editorial saying it was for the ignorant, the educator and the civil minded people lawmakers from state from the state slams Arizona resign. Doug Jones and only why 'cause the black women, but it's not that much better said, oh my God. What rock did this guy crawl out from under this editors as Lou discussing? He should resign. Now as seen what happens when we stand by while people, especially those influence polish races. Hateful views words, matter actions matter resigned now, right? And then, you know, people act like people I mea overreacting when we'd be like, hey, y'all do know that this shit. They won't they actually wanted to take it all the way back when nobody had no rights white me. And right women have no rights. Nobody had no rights pull white didn't handle rights, if you wouldn't rich white man, it was food you they wanna take where people work for free that night. They want to beat and whipping chain have owners property like that's literally what they're trying to take it back to them people bring up your back like you're so fucking far fetched. And you know, you the cycle with the ten forehead the fuck I am. The Knight rises coming back. Watch your back. See come on. That's what you go here. When they start showing us throwing up in DC. Hanging hanging on we look in what a biggest. Bring in. That's right. Lighten up the fires a racist ads. Bob. Hang on. Branding. Getting my matches. Michael where is the Dessel lean? Nobody I remember that show. Anyway. A hundred a hundred hundred zero for this phone because now that will be Jim. And now, I'm not gonna lie to go right to be the first time, it'd be have have have a beat go back and watch this show. Let's see. Let's get into some guests guys. All right. We've had fun. We need star wrapping up around here though. Sorry. But before we get to guess the race. Of course, today's guest the rice is brought to you by triangle wine, co okay? Trying to walk. 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And of course, the couples go to pack, which is already discounted from like thirty dollars to twenty so help yourself. Okay. Treat yourself. All. Right. Let's get into some guests the race. Now that is time for us from guest. All right. That's right is guest race time. That is for some guests though, right? That's right is. Time put it book. That's right. It's time for the race. The guy that goes all around the globe article said. We people do cry shit. We make people guest the raise Macaire plays long and the chat room plays with her. And of course, everyone plan is raised it. All right. I'm gonna say the fog with black people think again. All right. A sleeping man wakes up to his wife teething and stabs lover. Yep. Charges were found against an Indiana husband who says he stabbed another man. At the he woke up to him having sex with his wife. He was another taking a nap and woke up and somebody was in his wide come out. Month of Michael Neale twenty nine arrested early Monday at his ill would apartment where he allegedly buses cheating spouse. Neil told police he woke up enough harm and discovered his wife engaging sets with a male lover he'd been allegedly grabbed a knife from the bedroom and stabbed the man multiple times. I mean, what was the booking and in the clouds accounts. The same house. In the same house. I was arrived at the scene around twelve thirty AM to find a victim outside suffering from multiple stab wounds. I guess he's like you ain't gonna be two on stabbing. Some of here. I'll we all stab some shit. Police already Neil on a felony charge aggravated battery with a daily webby. He is being held without bond and Madison County detention center stabbing is still under investigation. Although. To me. I know investigation them how many times I got prove. My love staffs asked out can't guess the race of Mr Michael Neil, Michael Neal was on white man we had enough. Chat room guest. This guest the rights. Sounds like an episode of snap. Say. Lie. An episode of. Not a cook crazy ass white boy, white come in to break you out black. Why why to the white meat white didn't stick and move white white white white man with a wife that hates him white and white version of Johnny Taylor white? With crackers will well. The correct answer is mostly I think everyone wait white. It was white. Now, I know at the Super Bowl a lot of a lot of pretending. I don't fuck with them. But the actual more appropriate for this. What you say? Of most. The never may. Kind of trade me. Oh, you say never. Thank. My third. What's coming say word? Oh on it. With a never met him. Who come around here? Come around. To shoot him. He come around here. Come around here. I'm just saying that's not a Bob if you want that's fine. Come on. That's my jam lying. Black people my favorites. All right. Let's go to the next one. Let's the. Speaking of mayor coming home and being surprised a mayor returns home and finds a stranger and kids living there, can I help you. Yeah. Leave my house. Can't foster say he knew something was wrong. The NT return. There's house in Union South Carolina's week dog. He had never seen before was in his yard and a car seat was barricaded front door. He wasn't sure what's going on. Then heard a baby cry moments later woman who was he was unfamiliar with poke the head out the door and ask what are you doing in my house? He said excuse me. I live here standing outside his house, while the woman remain inside the door strat foster mealy, call now. One one Ed you do. Somebody's living in your house with police arrive at one opened the door say can I help you? He replied to the warmer yet. The first thing you do is leave my house the length of time from which foster been away from the house was not immediately clear the woman identified but believes Vanna Reinhard twenty five left the house wave Klosters wife's clothes from head to toe. You said two children came out wearing his children's clothes. The doggie said was wondering two dollars of the dog. You said what had urinated in the house and the family had allegedly moved into clean home. Add trashed it. He said even eating his food at the being taken to the hospital. Be reevaluated Reinhardt was arrested and charged with burglary neglect of a child and petty larceny. Yeah. 'cause if you ain't got to pay the house doing whatever the fuck, right, right? So he's still paying property taxes. You know, because people do that what there might travel and be office. But you still make sure the house is upkeep no lights power gas, and she's still functioning, right? This phone that miss mar apocalypse rule shit. It was like free house. The Linda towers was foster have been cleared. The woman didn't buy was. Oh, yeah. Okay. He says at authorities do not know exactly why she allegedly moved into the home or whatever that house officer responded who said that in her mind, she thought she lived there. Now, that's call stick into your life. Okay. The Justice mullet story all right method acting 'cause I who name is on the property when I go to the property with this public knowledge, if I tag that address Michio name those show up you got to prove I didn't believe I lived here. I spoke to the officers. She lived there. Her two children were placing emergency. Protective custody foster said, he's still cannot believe someone actually move to his house while he was gone. I feel violent. I feel extremely violated. Reinhard has not yet entered a plea. It is unclear whether she has obtained a tiny speak on her behalf guest the race of savannah, Reinhard care, savannah. Ron white. Okay, cares. Gonna colonize. Let's check the chat room. I discovered your house. It's mine. Now, Christopher Columbus white delirious AM privileged enough to occupy a house. That isn't hers in question you on why you are in your own house, white white. They pulled house White House white. It was all right. Why pop of crazy ass. Why why angel white white colonizers never disappoint think they manifest destiny? Other people's house white Alabama white Queen of the house is like both of is. But I'm just gonna stay here. While you're going the. The correct answer is and everyone got it. Correct. Because you all said the same thing, she was actually a full-blooded Anglo-Saxon female. All right. Let's go to the bonus round guys. And. That's why I don't a points race in the bonus round against the race. So far care and his two for to believe we'll be able to go three for three. We will see. All right. Let's see. Back to the page. All right. Let's see a bus driver was arrested and she needed NAR can to be revived from a heroin overdose. Following a crash with kids on the bus. Oh, yes. That is correct. Karen? A bus driver was arrested actually allegedly passed out on the wheel from a heroin overdose. And through an intersection and into a tree there were twelve children on the bus at the time all with special needs. But none of children were injured. Lisa burr. Fifty seven was chartered twelve thousand endangering the welfare of a child driving while impaired and possession of drug paraphernalia. The crash took place in Newark, New Jersey as she was driving home on Wednesday at about one pm videotape by New York ABC station WABC show, the bus rolling at a slow rate of speed through an intersection covered with snow from ongoing storm in the small tree by the side of the road driving while impaired is dangerous enough. But adding children's situation particularly responsible heinous said Newark public safety director. Okay. That's the news report. Why didn't news report news? What that was a ad. Okay. Right. Why what is happening? I'm telling you live. Two. No, no. I ain't doing this shit going on now. That that's my jam. Whatever is going to be those. Yeah. That's what it is. My dollar childish. Anyway, police sources WABC suspected of being our hair when it's not clear when she took the drug I will say before driving. Recent Burr have been had to be revived on the scene by NAR. Cab would knock came about. Paramedics NAR Candice the brand name for the drug naloxone is used to treat opioid overdose include heroin. She was taking the university hospital for further treatment endangered allies and the children, and we can't tolerate said the mayor. So guess the race of Lisa bird bird was white cares. Going white. Let's check the chat room and see what you believe out from the Simpsons realized south park bus driver, white this mails, a super white privilege heroin says white newer says black black fuck them kids, white white how the heaven why heroin hell and white. None. None none other than a Newark. Nigger black Newark, equal black. Lotta people saying black on this one hair. Ron magic school bus black. So you try and say she was mom anyway. The correct answer is and care you missed it. She is black. Oh. Tale. And the rest of you guys got it. Right. Black. Yes. You black flag. All right. So Iraq in this time. I'm trying to find a short one because I don't have much time. But these are long. How about this one? A mayor arwood a sore. Throws a weed whacker and Fowler fiery pillow opposites during a standoff at strawberry mansion home. He tried to urinate, hours straighten a slice out there. Hey is also taught several items into including a we Wacker and fiery pillow during a barricade situation. Strawberry mansion section of Philadelphia. Do I don't know. He was forty two years old sitting on the front steps. He was armed with a sword. And a would a two foot long blades. Started swinging the sore at police is he alive come out and respond hours a on on defy man. But that little fact as he pulled the Prins out and went back into his home still swinging the sword. Barricade situation was declared the threatened the slice off. He also cut his own neck with disorder at least twice causing minor injuries. Oh against lice. He repeatedly the if you don't care about self. You know, you don't care about you repeatedly to- police he wanted to go to the hospital where a few the drivers or. The man through several items out of a window officers including furniture. Wait speakers a knife, adore large piece of glass, or we water and a pillow. Yes. Yes. It on fire and Partridge and Patrie. All right. That's it for today's episode. Thank y'all so much for listening you I'll add. Yeah. All right until next time. I love you. I love you too.
S3 E9: The Justice Project
"This is a cbc podcast in december and arrest was made for canada into the middle of a trade war between the united states and china china's i'm steven quinn sanctioned is the complicated story of how and why while way cfo's mung one joe was arrested how will this impact are lies and technology sanction subscribe at cbc dot c h slash sanctions or wherever you get your podcast if you like uncovered there's another podcast you might like clearly billowing from broadly is a show all about chosen family host sarah burke in france toronto share stories from five incredible unlikely and extremely clear relationships like to artist helping each other navigate the intersection of race including us in you ask for the first time end trans sex worker who becomes a mentor to they're transitioning client you can listen to critical of it on apple or google podcasts or wherever you get uncover i'm justin lane this is a special episode of uncover the village last summer i met up with trans activists nikki ward in the park next to the five one nine community center in toronto she took me over to a brick wall at the far end of the park the show me something we have in front of us is the symbol the transgender which is internationally recognized as such the red flags and so forth but the symbol some of the reno to be ours and it is female male in mind your own business and so this is a large so often white show up and then on the side of some some names written indifferent choke the first name of someone who is possibly certainly so we set this up here and it's very modest what happens is this the symbol here is stored on a regular basis we have to clean up a little bit destroy trump just which is a testament to how much disrespected by those people in the street there's no tax here is feeding it's just chill and you could see faded names here that stayed with the national policy time this may be the only place where this name of this because when a trans person dies claim by the family of origin and then name then evaporates when they die twice plus individually and then then that there were buried with the wrong name when the president says he only plays now you can see it but i could see all of the names only he had written on here trend people in toronto and elsewhere are at particular risk for marginalization in this memorial is just one way to remember those who died and you'll say there's this people kind of very little objects this pocus what have you it's very it's it's very a i think the cosmos we moved by that yeah i hope that's true and often times when they're doing a memorial in the popcorn matching they have candles people will come to one side and for the handle it to hear syrup this series we've seen how discrimination could disrupt and even end arrives the victims who went missing from the village were austin men of color immigrants or refugees there were people who may have not been comfortable going to police if they felt unsafe a the chances of being criminalised as he reports a slime against you when you were a recent immigrants whether you have different status with floyd maybe you have a history of whatever the chances of being you being charged with a crime when you reporter prime somebody else they're actually quite high so of course says a distrust and then we were talking about issues around a physical assault and sexual assault not only is there some stigma stigma associated with their clients woman or game adam heavy identified there also sensitivities around that while we were in michigan investigating the murder of markle kofsky we heard about it initiative called the justice project aim of the project is to ensure that everybody in the community feels respected by both the police end the courts victims advocate works with witnesses and survivors well a special prosecutor tries cases of serious crimes against lgbtq people are producer eric byrnes went back to detroit to learn more about what impact the justice project is having in the community specifically when it comes to the live the trans women of color in baseball and i just got shot saint louis county sheriff's office l a complete truth i guess you could put him down thank you good afternoon swift and those how did you know kelly to my door child held with kelly time production thirty six kelly was born tristen is that correct correct andrew she identified as kelly yes she identifies ties must have realized no but at the time for jeff you're daughter was named touchdown yes she goes the wayne county medical examiner's office yes what purpose to identify which i that's kelly still mother she's in court describing how she had to identify her daughter's body the court respected expected kelly's true name in gender identity and someone was arrested for her murder this might not have happened a few years ago trans women of color are demanding justice for their community and finally they're being heard kelly's case is being handled handled by the team at the justice project they can't speak to the media about an ongoing case the first person you'll hear from slowly an angel ray as the director of a drop in center for lgbtq youth in detroit all of these women are the frontlines lines of an epidemic of violence against trans women of color this is their story in their words detroit is one of my most favorite places in the world detroit has one of the strongest mexican town or latino populations an one of the largest populations of every american's outside of the middle east and so detroit really as a hub for all kinds of culture and beauty and resiliency where you don't have to strip who you are so their neighborhoods where you can be who you are talking you're language and never leave that neighborhood if you so choose for many people don't detroit is a really rough place to lift the economy took a turn so did the resources and then you started seeing people leave the community's if they were able to wear the lgbt community it's even harder so my name is looming on angel ray s i am currently the director of second story strap in listener as well as the executive director of transistors of color project for many black and brown lgbt people specifically people transition where we come out really young and so sometimes we come out where no support and families kick us out or beat us hurt us raising tell us and so because of that we come out and there's nothing the do you can't you can't go get a job you don't wanna go to the foster care system but because of that people start thirteen fourteen seventeen when that transition and started doing sex work right on the straw right a mile away i didn't go there to do sex work there's a lot of drug use and so some girls overdose some girls freeze to death on the stroke because they are homeless it happens so easy and so quick that you're sometimes caught up in a system that you don't really realize you're apart of until it's really difficult to leave in the early two thousands a lot of girls were murdered by their dates and pushed out the car and nothing happened and sofer trans women of color like myself we've lost lots of friends family sisters to the streets an end there's no justice that usually happens when one of us were murdered a nothing happened no one did anything else are fall we we did something wrong and detroit has a really rough history with lgbt people and so detroit can be the most beautiful place but it costs would be the scariest place so jill lisa is my sister a in this work in this life you really have to find people who who not only just embrace who you are but who are you and we connected 'cause she's hispanic and i was inspired there is another trans woman that was latino like myself expects that many yankee trait that do the advocacy work that we do it's not like home we were able to talk spanish together here and we find solace in like being around each other and talking about her hopes and dreams are struggles are trauma angeles has given me a friend that i don't think the show ever understand what she's giving me like she's giving me a safety net a foundation that allows me to know that i'm not the only one doing this work release also does a different type works and she's much more in the trenches when something happens you're the first person that they call an i don't know that i could do the work that she does six molly would word freezing cold if you don't have anywhere to lift you were homeless it would be horrible conditions could even smoke cigarettes throughout on the floor my hand feels like it's gonna freeze so this laundry mat where some of the girls with the cars park warmer for summertime you got john sometimes for their hearts go up and down all hours of the night a lot of abandoned building their drug usage drug dealer is not a safe area and that's where a lot of him trans women standard to survive affects when they walk from here as far down eight miles the next reno verts where it went up vm trans girls were shot but it's really really unfortunate even in these brutal conditions like people will be here and the giants don't pull over in go really slow like fear richard pryor that pastor really really slow to see what we were doing no different than that i feel like the way from dangerous in the beginning we stand out here with the girls that i would consider my friends and i knew it would write down license plate numbers just high starts advocating for so many girls either they were getting driver assaulted so and murdered that's exactly how did you like leave me alone like three minutes i'm not even joking like twenty cars will fuller looked exactly which is you need right now i got money kept walking you need arise and then honesty i turn the full of fun so my name is truly a bad i work at c span michigan justice project that specifically works on addressing lgbt anti trans crimes a lot of people don't know my background story but i don't have a horrific childhood being trans ashley had really good parents was brought up in the household cata education have college degree i speak three languages i moved to this area i google gay finally places when i got here i originally did not know it was like the concrete jungle i had enough income to last me for a year where i was good after that i started trying to find employment here inches did not happen so when i moved out here at first i would see lgbtq individuals and trans individuals like myself in florida there really isn't any space or place where trans women congregate so so when i first see them excited 'cause i felt like there was like a community like myself i never realized that they were all outside 'cause we had to do survival sex work i block i've been here eight years i've lost two friends bills don't stop obviously i don't feel like i ever happily been able to grieve am because i know what it was before i was where i'm at now i have this phobia a when amy waking up in is not being real like it'd being a dream sometimes really surreal to me how come that's another reason why were they do liliana works hard to help her community to end she always had she lives looking at people well before she worked as an official advocate i remember when i used to be on the strong and something would happen you didn't call the police you just figured it out or you dealt with that that when i do it back in the early two thousands we would have boys come let us that would supervisors and watch us just to make sure things were okay so we created our own policing system and so we're relying each other we talk to each other about what dates we don't trust what they do trust we grew up hating the police 'cause they would come and be like that's the best otherwise we're gonna take you to jail so we will have sex with them to police a really rough to us back in the day when we first started out one of her sister's name with shelly she helped the police find eighty drug dealer they caught him put him in jail they gave her a police officer had a police officer work with her and he told that she told on him and they decapitated her they kind of her arms and legs and later empire lgbt movement has gained some right but not for transpeople when gay marriage became legal that year i think it's twenty fifteen twenty sixteen that year in two or three years after that were one of the highest rates of trans people specifically trans women of color being murdered in the united states so it is is very scary that i could be living my life in someone could decide that who i am never talking to me never interacting with me just who i am is enough to take me out of this world and then the fear that if that happens nothing happens i'm alone aguire i am the president of the board fair michigan foundation we got together initially so our founder dana nessel who's now actually full disclosure my wife in twenty fifteen she was part of a team of attorneys who brought the suit that went all the way up to the supreme court you know as obergefell be hodges are case excludes part of those four cases that went up to the supreme court and actually legalized same sex marriage united states people could start getting married end what we're noticing though because michigan specifically does not have protections in place for for discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity you could get married on a saturday go into work talion player that you wanna address spouse to you're a health insurance plan for example that employer could find out you're gay and fire you and there's absolutely nothing you know legal recourse so who feels the be most sort of impact of discrimination i think i think you really have to let the trans community in particular trans women of color are project project shows that further twentysix cases it we have prosecuted sons are finding in twenty sixteen half of those victims are trans in terms of violent nature of are assault crimes that i think i i think the trans community bearing the brunt of that more so than any other group so we established fair michigan initially as a ballot initiative and we were hoping to amend the michigan skin constitution to include sexual orientation gender identification and actually interestingly under michigan is not alone either in that form of allowing discrimination there many states that do there no federal statutes dictating that kind of thing either twenty eighteen was a pretty banner year for my house my wife decided to run for attorney general on election night scenic gave a pretty powerful speech you might think you you can't handle the fact that i'm about to become the first openly gay person the whole she paused and brad can get very public kiss in front of everyone i don't know what what mood struck her but i think it was sort of a reaction to so does the monster monster people taking shots at her i could say that it was it was fun to be a part of something like that in i think it was kind of just a very subtle like yes i see you 'em she was be first statewide elected official shirtless lgbt i think that that particular representation matters tremendously to the lgbt community because they attorney general is they state's top law enforcement official signature project is the fear michigan justice project i think we have some of the most professional dedicated incredible people working for organization to lisa she is in the community each and every day she came to us actually the very first day that we announced the justice projects she contacted dana nessel and said what could i do to help i originally saw the news talking about the justice project in dana nessel in around that same time i lost to trans sisters that were murdered in this area i reached out to dana nessel called her and asked her if she had two minutes a basically explained to her my story what it is that trans women have to go through and i just undefeated my case and told her the truth i just need someone to believe in me give me an opportunity and a she dead and so i am the director of advocacy for trans individuals that michigan so a lot of lady trans women that at beat up assaulted have been raped and robbed have came in knocked on this store here and all these other doors it'd be apartments and i've had an every instance i called jamie 'cause we know that crime doesn't have a time so whether it's one in the morning midnight five in the morning she has answered she has made sure that she called police departments and let them know that i am on the way with the victims that they treated with respect and they're culturally competent and she just honestly she goes above and beyond for my community and she doesn't necessarily have to and not everybody dies and she's one of the best allies and i think we have here my name is jamie tell her what time the special prosecutor for the michigan justice project the project got started because back in two thousand fourteen and fifteen we had an and unprecedent number of trans women of color who were killed in the city and the cases more being closed the project is they private public partnerships between fair michigan which is a nonprofit and lgbtq advocacy organization in wayne county prosecutor's office wayne county prosecutor's office science us cases that involve the bias crimes against the communities when people are targeted because of their sexual orientation and gender identity we don't have a hate crime law michigan to address okay yeah we're doing the cases because we know they exist and were treating them like hate crime cases you can't change the law unless you collect the dad at a show there's an actual problem when i began working with her especially in my community who is really hard for me to bring her around it was already hard from my community to come forward and report crimes so they don't feel really comfortable having to reach out to a white sis gendered woman that they felt wouldn't understand their struggle were lucky this community that we had to lisa somebody who could kind of valtrex going to say hey it's always told me all right i told there's this new prosecutor and then i told them she lady she's just gender and then i throw in that she's white ten dollar room is like oh no no no no so it takes a little time to build that trust and they keep showing up in jamie power has always been really supportive she's always been open to learning which i love about her she always ask a lot of questions we've had conversations where sometimes show like not see something from a perspective that should be like well no i explain it to our from a trans experience in she is absolutely amazing lisa is a force of nature everyone who meets her instantaneously loves her no matter what walk of life they come from a as a whole cases involving the trans community the first step is the famous injustice project wants to go back and start looking at those cases not just a look at those cases but see what we could change in the future because obviously there's a reason when you have so many people in one small community losing their live in a very short period of time and not being able to solve this there's breakdown something's gone wrong there was a case in wayne county there's also when in oakland where they were trans women of color who had cooperated in an investigation and end were were killed and obviously this is a small community everyone talks to each other and that the message that sends is you know a few crop rates but the preacher notes you could potentially lose her life keep in mind that if community as a whole fees police and people in authority that respecting back then you know and not treating you with dignity whether it's gonna make the community feel like they should treat you better on wednesday girls would get eight salted or beat up they would be criminalized for prostitution prostitution but not addressed the fact that they were just robbed or beat up or rate or again they would be mis gendered not treated with respect to where they're not gonna go to the police station report if you have eight warrant and you know that they're not gonna take you serious series now you're gonna go to jail and you're still in the same position that you were in before you were out there which is trying to eat in survive west lgbtq community they have stopped going to the police because they have learned learn when they call know when it's gonna come and if they do come they're not gonna take it seriously i respect them we broke trust with them we can't just sit here and wait for them to report it up the art community to keep going back to that community to make sure that they know the system can work for them this community is treated with excessive brutality these women are shot weather in cars there dumps they're left for dead and i think i think we see lot of john's that would literally rather kill these women that'd be caught and i always get upset when i see cases and the paper in the comments are always oh well he was probably surprised that she was transgender i have never seen that never these are people who who because of the stigmatization associated with being trans these men also see these women as less than human and they customization also he himself said their preference so they're likely to act on that violence and they're likely to act act on that hatred and when they do so they austin describe what they have done in ways that not just humanize the victim but it's almost as if the giants at we see feel that it's okay to exact violence against the community after they patronize them there's just no remorse for it if you go to rob someone or you go to rape someone and then you start using slurs and you up danny with the violence most certainly that is a hate crime there were two individuals who decided that they were going to specifically look for a trans woman to rob they pull up to her on the corner one person it's out of the car with a twenty two rifle codependent ms williams takes her purse sexually drops it on the ground he takes it goes back in the car she goes to run away it's over end charles brown gunter down as she's running away the two defendants were fleeing from the police and there was a police chase and we looked at the body can't now and you could hear on the body cams one of the authors as he's chasing one of the defendants they shot a transgender person you can't do that anymore oh no they have a special unit oh no you can't do that anymore she was paralyzed for almost eight months but by the time we got trial she was able to walk into court with a cane and testify in identify her shooter now here's be affective trading these cases like hate crimes police are taking the more seriously they love the fact that they have an investigator a prosecutor at their disposal will answer phones all hours of the night they're gonna be dealing with one person from start to finish when we first started i routinely had to go to lisa please please bring this person to talk to me please tell us first and we're gonna we're gonna fight really hard for them it took a lot of convincing the victims and the witnesses in that community that we really were there for them and we were gonna take the violence against the community seriously now i show up and they talked to me they know were gonna take it seriously that were getting the results and that were gonna make sure that they get through the process as easily as they can so tomorrow i can't say that we will be working in case i can't discuss the case but i will be there in the role as eight victim advocate there are cases many times we prepare a victim and we prepare witnesses and we practice how're you gonna handle the situation when it happened i myself as a victim advocate will make sure that i'm there with you the whole time in court talking to you walking you through sometimes the defense is job is to throw you off their square radel you so i tried to tell are victims that everybody's gonna be respectful unfortunately but when they ask you a question look at me even if the question is disrespectful and bothers you act like mean you were having a conversation so they just helps them get through it better were gonna be going to hold a preliminary examination for the murder of the trans women of color albert weather's is charged with murdering kelly so this is a probable cause hearing will be held in front of judge michael wagner were gonna put on evidence to show that there is probable cause that this defendant murdered this victim also to make sure that my community members center there respected they get into the courtroom with snow issue i need people with authority and people they're just if you'd like they have an advocate just like any other person would have representation or an advocate were working on some cases now our it's kind of a a first that entire community is now circling around their victims and witnesses to help provide the support when they come into the justice system see as you're not gonna do that we exist if we don't ever come out you're not gonna know disparities that we go through if we don't ever talk about him were not gonna know any statistical numbers if we're not ever writing them down or seen representation so i want my community always to be there and be present like i want people to know like we are hearing i work at a rally together at its isn't okay unacceptable anymore the big story hate crime pastor now charged in the murder of a transgender gender woman that he has on her grandmother she has a lot of people who love her she she was loved in in in you know people cared so you know you just she just what nobody the mother of kelly's sto is devastated tried to come to grips what's her murder case is being handled by special prosecutor what the fair michigan justice project which is fits police ems prosecutors in solving serious crimes against lesbian gay bisexual transgender person nobody from the justice project can speak about anyone connected to and ongoing case but liliana new kelly they were friends what i do know about kelly as i've known her for almost a decade so we were in the ballroom scene is that resilient a network of lgbt people specifically black and brown started in new york and it created this family for lgbt people and i knew her for years and years and choose one of the sweetest people ever actually her and i were in the same house we were in the house of happening and so the house of ebony is one of the largest houses in the ballroom scene it's one of the oldest houses an it is a space where they honor the girls and they called the famine queens which are trans women of color ebony pearls and there's so much safety that goes with him the the men make sure that they are protecting the girl so you can walk at the model but you're not really a model and so we're sitting there there are house his birth families that you become a part of an whatever you go to a bar you'll hear ebony chanted because there's so many members and it's like a big family reunion girls are put on a platform and it's really beautiful in the way they humble themselves to the girls and so any girl in the ebony were always feel like she's face in a ball and it's a house house where it's really a family and it's really lots of love that comes from it so she walked face cause shoes shoes beautiful and she could do make up like nobody's business and she would always wanna do the girls makeup so that they could sell the most beautiful they could kelly was probably one of the most funniest people that you would ever me she was hilarious and so we spent a lotta time having fun and laughing she believes in sticking sticking up for the girl she believed in the rights of trans women of color about my friend in twenty fifteen the detroit police held a meeting in palmer park to address violence island against lgbtq people some individual officers had been working respectfully with the communities but the relationship with police in general is rough at the bar were not acting on a truck to what's in jail but i'm saying that's not gonna do any kelly attended the meeting share her thoughts on how the police were interacting with her community this is kelly would not have to you know to to keep the fucking before help deter crime helping attention in la can do people that serve and protect the guy who grew up in gotten killed over the last month and making a way for them say that i don't wanna here there from care but what am i to do all these laws about you ain't going away so why not do the relationship that they could go mccamley when you talk about the q lack of that for sam whatever the fuck you get electric in the middle asli you know van bleed or something like that you could lose another rabbi passer like you never cracking down she was one of the sweetest people in the world she would literally give you the closed off her back and other people say that about people but she really would she would literally go well here's my coat it's negative five here's my coat because you need it sometimes in a community when there's a lot of trauma and oppression sometimes it's easier to turn out in the people much like you so there's a lot of infighting kelly wasn't about that she lives about making sure that girl spell beautiful beautiful and safe so when when when she passed away the thought of that not being in the community anymore because it's rough to be in this community without having those types of spirit depressing which she left it felt like there was a piece of a lot of us were taken sorry how you doing okay credit albert weather's a former pastor has been charged with the murder of kelly show this is the preliminary examination the prosecution try to prove the probable cause that a crime was committed end the defendant committed the crime the defensive entered a plea of not guilty in look resent their arguments winning if the case goes to trial upper weather's has said that he shot kelly accidentally unin self defense when she tried to rob in these are some of the prosecution witnesses did you call nine one one yesterday a layer of shortly thereafter states laid on the ground they have their hand up and there's a cell phone in their hand and his driver get off in the driver's side walk over to be persona ground saxophone marketing and what banking got into the car to a woman on the street i witness says he saw someone throw person out of a car as she would lying there that person took her cell phone from her hand got back in the car and drove away jamie how horrible it calls the forensic pathologist to the stand how long did it take the guy flew in from just loves being hit i would escalate it would take but it's to maybe more our doctor in your opinion if medical examiner do you think it would be possible for her life to have been saved and she had immediate medical attention it was possible i would say determined the cause and manner of death yes what was the cause of death in this case hospitals gunshot wound to the chest the prosecution has won last witness for the first day of this examination good afternoon could you please state your name for the writer perverse birth what is your name that you everyday kira you're legal name is tomorrow's yes you are transgender woman yes you're family friends call you kira yes miss but i'm gonna take you back to december seventh of two thousand eighteen i did you know person the name of kelly sto yes i do how did you know kelly on a very close friend of mine who say like a twin sister you hung out together frequently yes you please tell me what you know like the area a six mile and woodward and six mile and john are you know the come out all over the area mainly where you'd find a lot of lgbtq transgender women and also so a lot of am i where did you did survive affects yesterday where would along with me six projects yes this is the defense attorney a on the date of december seventh two thousand eighteen you add the location of mcnichols and brush so you have no knowledge right any understanding what occurred that early morning hours is that correct all right well let me back up your deceased i didn't quite get your name it's a terrorist butts is that correct that's what is his name is higher this is the judge will she says she goes she is urging congress which a real nice excuse me well the defense attorney asks cairo what her real name is he argues that he wants to hear her legal name because among other things many people use alias jamie power what seems to see it differently she wants to make sure the cairo isn't mis gendered in court that is extremely sensitive inappropriate north winds she wants to run for mitch kratz using this tactic he knows at this witness goes by tire at this point he's seeking to embarrass accumulate did you ever see kelly sto doing survival sex work here frequently sex work is work survival sex is selling sex because you don't have any other options you know a person who is albert weather's do you do you see him in today in both directions between indicate where he he didn't what he's married woman dreams claim currently lead directly reflects is identified the defendant in this case albert whether missed that you start taking jason spencer whether his attitude is like very like aggressive and kind of kind of intimidating like if you're one of those veasley intimidated people and i just don't like confrontation so christopher depends on who works together in this area do you discuss you're done yes some latin forty two but we do like him or are singing or girl don't get that car you did you and kelly interact regarding yeah thank you so kira chiefly ebony to kira is also my sister that we've known twelve years i think and i i reali command and i mean like jamie us my heart but i really commend the the judge 'cause there's been lots of cases where they will not say she they'll look at a girl and say he and used their name even when they tell them not to and so i'm really happy that in this space they upheld in environment to the extent that they could of safety because higher has been kira for ten twelve years and so for like people that may think well just changed her name it's much much difficult it's really expensive it's also very intimidating you go in front of a judge in front of dozens of people and be like i am transgender i would like to change my name so it's it can be really scary and so i'm glad that cairo was uplifted as high right because that's who she is we were hurting her voice is being kerry all of us and she'll never be allowed to any of this until were all very very close very tight knit in detroit and so we wanted to make sure that covered in fill them so every single time there is eight hearing or it goes to court we want to be there as many people as possible so it really is just about one to support kira to to let the family know that their daughter i would love to be loved and three don't let the courts now an the murder and his family know that this is not acceptable and that you didn't just kill a person you kill are family i am not sure that you would have seen kira on the stand without fair michigan specifically because both jamie angeles where the people that support it pirate in this current did not wanna get understanding the first by some say that so i think because of the fear because she would be out there because she knew they were gonna rain her in and like do everything they could to weaken her it really was julie so that really empowered kira to do it and then i think think because they stepped up in the community stepped up that's what made kyri do that but without fear michigan you would not have seen kira that stan definitely not and you wouldn't have seen us there either honestly now this year is different because this year the community has seeing that the system is working for them and now they're becoming more vocal and supporting each other when they come for their safety numbers right so if you hurt trans women of color now they know the police are coming the prosecutor is coming and these defendants are gonna know now that the community is coming so when you have support like that it deterred further victimizing it's amazing these victims and witnesses by torturing them firebombing their house making a frightened shooting at them when you had the community strictly running it makes it a lot harder for people to intimidate them going three years we have a hundred percent section raging in fact we have a hundred percent conviction rate speaks in itself on whether it's been doing for the community the fact they feel comfortable enough to come forward now and report and have conversations with jamie before i literally would have to be there and now they're comfortable enough in me saying well no if you come here you go to this police station asper this argument this detective you're gonna be fine you're gonna be treated with respect the fact that when i started in two thousand sixteen sixteen hours reaching out to dana nessel in order to have the position man now she's be attorney general and we have a new president's prepare michigan so it's just amazing and i think that as a whole it's just amazing what we've been able to accomplish i think any demographic community it always gets better i feel like a long time ago we were having that conversation where gay individuals and there wasn't even lgbtq back then it was just homosexuals gay and lesbian than they were even accepted so my hope is that a year from now two years from now we wouldn't even be having this fetched topic conversation on transgender it'll just be normal then like i understand it's just another layer community so as much as i'm overwhelmed tired i i cannot say that like my phone rang up yeah the jury trial with other weather's is scheduled for august twenty nineteen as of may twenty nineteen michigan still doesn't have official protections or hate crime laws that apply to the lgbtq people the justice project to try twentyfour cases in the last three years they still have a one hundred percent conviction rate thank you lisa bad jamie pow's horowitz and mcguire louisiana angel rant and everyone we spoke with at the justice project and the wayne county prosecutor's office thank you to associate producer sarah clayton an ultra terrain felton let us use the tape of the twenty fifteen interview with kelly so far were not i think you kind of have to jail because that's not gonna do any good would not answer you keep showing the fucking before you're helped gets a cry for help and attention in la the cr video documentary on the justice project visit our website at cbc dot c h slash uncover this episode was produced by aaron burns and recorded by sarah clayton sessile fernandez and mitch stewart are audio producers additional