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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on The Erick Erickson Show

The Erick Erickson Show

04:28 min | 8 months ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on The Erick Erickson Show

"Net anywhere from zero to ten seats just from redistricting. The gerrymandering poses a danger to america that gerrymandering poses a danger to america is a relatively recent discovery for democrats only after republicans routed them in stating aggression elections. The two thousand ten and redrew hundreds of districts of their own favor did democrats express which reached a fever pitch when they won the nationwide vote in the next election but saw the gop secured second largest house majority and sixty years the ensuring ensuing democratic campaign against gerrymandering pushed as like colorado and virginia to adopt independent redistricting commissions aimed at preventing politicians from choosing their own constituents none of this stop democrats elsewhere from gerrymandering themselves after the two thousand ten census. They drew a notoriously. Skewed congressional map in maryland that left republicans with just a single seat in the eight number delegation now democratic groups that for years have criticized the practice or urging their party not to create unfair maps and blue states like illinois and new york. Two wrongs don't make a right kelli ward burton. The president of the national democratic redistricting committee told me the group was launched in two thousand seventeen with the backing of former president. Barack obama and former attorney general eric holder to reform redistricting burton former executive director of the democratic congressional campaign committee argues. The democrats. don't need to gerrymander to keep the house. Majority we want maps that reflect the will of the voters and reflect the actual makeup of the state. If that occur. She says than the house. Stay competitive when we can win. That's a bit. Many democrats are willing to make it goes on from there but the point is this democrats have now for the last decade because republicans did so well in two thousand ten. They're able to redraw the lines and benefit republicans democrats. Oh let's just get rid of gerrymandering altogether. We'll do rowdy. Well you know. Nate silver at the fivethirtyeight blah. They've done a detailed analysis of the nation and it turns out no matter which way you carve up a state with a nonpartisan committee When you get away from the states that border the atlantic and pacific. Would you get into the heartland when you get into texas. When you get a georgia when you get into florida when you get into louisiana when you get into missouri when you get into iowa when you get into you name it turns out that if you just had a nonpartisan commission draw the most reasonable lines possible it benefits the republicans benefits the republicans and the democrats know it and so they're willing to use this rhetoric like this outside groups say well we just want fair lines when they know they can't get fair lines that benefit democrats the fair lines but if the republicans so they can say superficially that's what they want while knowing behind the scenes that the democrats are gonna be as ruthless the republicans to try to get what they can get and draw lines that benefit them. Because it's all about power for them. It's all about power never about principle. It's about power. And they're going to use their power and the few legislatures they control to do whatever they can to stop the republicans from taking back. Congress principles be damned. Hello there it. Is eric erickson. Here are the full number is eight seven seven.

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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on The Erick Erickson Show

The Erick Erickson Show

04:00 min | 8 months ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on The Erick Erickson Show

"The party is trying to ban partisan gerrymandering nationwide but redrawing districts in blue states. Like new york may be the only way to preserve its house. Majority to hear democratic leaders decry gerrymandering as part of their current bid to enact landmark voting rights legislation. You'd think the centuries old practice was a mortal threat to the republic but political necessity could soon demand. That democrats dropped their purity act to keep their narrow house majority they might have to deploy the tactic everywhere they can. And every bit as aggressively as republicans do nowhere or the stakes higher for democrats than in new york. The party there has its largest legislative majorities in a century and more sway over more seats than anywhere else in the country. A cutthroat approached redistricting. New york could eliminate or substantially alter many as five republican held seats a number equivalent to the democrats current edge in the house. The early maneuvering by new york. Democrats is already revealing the party. Shaky commitment to its national. Anti gerrymandering plush. One that has long been rooted less lesson. Principle than the democrats passionate message would suggest would could impede the democratic effort to make the most of its dominance in. New york is not the fear of hypocrisy. But the party's internal politics nationwide. The challenge for democrats is formidable. The shuffling of house seats as a result of the census is expected to shift power from mostly democratic states like california new york illinois to states like texas florida and north carolina. All of which will have legislatures controlled by republicans who will be in charge of draw new districts. The bottom line is if this becomes an arms race in both parties maximize their advantage in the states that they control republicans will come out ahead. David wasserman an analyst for the nonpartisan newsletter. The cook political report told me the gop needs to flip just five democratic seats to recapture the house. Majority in two thousand twenty two and conceivably the party could gain although seats through gerrymandering alone wasserman projects that republicans could net anywhere from zero to ten seats just from redistricting. The gerrymandering poses a danger to america. That gerrymandering poses a danger to america's relatively recent discovery for democrats only after republicans routed them in stating gresh elections in two thousand ten and redrew hundreds of districts in their own favor. The democrats expressed outrage which reached a fever. Pitch when they won the nationwide vote in the next election but saw the gop secured second largest house majority and sixteen years the insuring ensuing democratic campaign against gerrymandering push states like colorado and virginia to adopt independent redistricting commissions aimed at preventing politicians from choosing their own constituents. None of the stop democrats elsewhere from gerrymandering themselves. After the twenty ten census they drew a notoriously skewed congressional map in maryland that left republicans with just a single seat in the eight-member delegation now democratic groups that for years of criticized the practice or urging their party to create unfair maps and blue states like illinois and new york. Two wrongs don't make a right kelli ward burton. The president of the national democratic redistricting committee told me the group was launched in two thousand seventeen with the backing of former president. Barack obama former attorney general eric holder to reform redistricting burton a former executive director of the democratic congressional campaign committee argues. The democrats. don't need to gerrymander to keep the house. Majority we want maps that reflect the will of the voters and reflect the actual makeup of the state if that occurs. She says then. The house stays competitive. We can win. That's a mini. Democrats are willing to make now. It goes on from there but the point is this democrats have now for the last decade because republicans did so well in two thousand ten. They're able to redraw the lines and benefit republicans. Democrats say oh..

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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

05:22 min | 10 months ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Situation. So you know commissions are part of that fairness is part of that fair maps is part of that, and that's what we're going to be fighting for during this redistricting process. Kelli Ward Burton is executive director at the National Democratic Redistricting Committee. The Republican counterpart to the National Democratic Redistricting Committee is the national Republican redistricting Trust and like the NDRC, they, too are hard at work, preparing for what, sure to be a long and drawn out process. Did you catch that drawn out anyway? Adam Kincaid is the group's president and executive director. Spoke to him about their priorities as stay start to organize had of redistricting. The National Republican redistricting Trust focuses on data and litigation. Those are our primary jobs are number one thing we've done is we've built a Redistricting database for all 50 states. That's something that people don't believe this when I tell them, but it's true. It's something we've actually never had on our side of the aisle before, and that's handicapped our ability to help No states that maybe you're our blue, but they're still Republicans there that would like to have a voice in the process. So that was our number One priority was to fix that problem. Democrats have had groups that have done this for decades. We've never had a group that built this level of Kind of an exhaustive database. Until now, That was priority number one. Now the trust is kind of moving forward to the next phase. We're doing a lot of public education. We're doing a lot of education with legislators with legislative staff. Then, after the maps were drawn, we will go into a litigation phase. I was going to ask you specifically about litigation because you also made this point. The New York Times did a piece recently. Featuring Democrats and Republicans and you in particular saying that your focus was going to be defending maps drawn by Republicans and being more aggressive. About going after democratic Jerry Manders in the blue states, So can you talk to us about The blue states that you're going to be spending time looking at and where our states in which say in 2010, or in previous years, you as you said, you were not aggressive enough and how you'll be more aggressive this time around, So we'll talk about the Blue states. I'm talking about the six states that Democrats have full control over congressional redistricting. Those air Massachusetts, Maryland, New Mexico, Oregon in Illinois, and so what we're going to be doing is looking at each of those as the maps were drawn how the process unfolds. On DSI. Do the Democrats adhere to their own state criteria to they are here to you know, federal law where it's applicant. Are there other opportunities for us to sue under State constitutions. This is something that Democrats did a really good job doing over the last few years is they went into these states, and they sued under state constitutions and brought some novel claims that had never been brought before, and We're gonna be looking to do the same sort of thing in those states because we haven't been on offense. We have been on constant defense for a decade, and it's cost us. What do you foresee as the kind of cases That you would be bringing up as you're looking at some of these maps that Democrats are going to be drawing. So one of the problems that we have with litigation moving forward is something that the Democrats ran up against last time, which is that the Supreme Court has said you can't bring Artisan gerrymandering claims in federal court, which means a lot more of these claims are going to be brought in state courts, and what Democrats have done is they've used clauses like the free and fair elections clauses and state constitutions to go and sue and argue that map should be redrawn. We'll be looking at clauses like that. Other ones that may elude toe, maybe geographic principles and redistricting that exist in some places that may be violated with maps drawn by, you know, Democrat legislatures and signed by Democrat governors in some of those spots, so those those sort of things will be looking at and then Yeah, we'll be finding plaintiffs toe working with plaintiffs in states where there are voting Rights Act claims that need to be brought and that's another thing that will definitely be be talking to folks about in each state. As you know, people come forward with issues. But you know, there's again when you're looking at redistricting moving forward. The litigation that's going to come is going to be multi faceted. You're gonna have ish, but the problem is that The the, Um Congress hasn't really spelled out those criteria. Right? And there's nothing the U s Constitution about. Um, you know what you know, Jerry Mannering is or is not. It's kind of in the eye of the beholder. And so what we're going to be doing is looking the state constitutions that do have some of those criteria on by looking at how we can bring cases around this. Adam Kincaid. I really appreciate you taking the time and talking us through this and Obviously, we'll be talking to a lot more as we go through this year. Thanks so much. Adam Kincaid is president and executive director of the National Republican Redistricting Trust. Mm hmm. Yeah. At the start of the pandemic, a Chinese doctor spoke.

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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

04:22 min | 10 months ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Public interest, 93.9 FM and AM a 20 NPR News and the New York conversation. It's politics with Amy Walter on the take away. Another big issue just around the corner Redistricting. After the contentious 2020 election. Democrats narrowly control both houses of Congress, but the parties will battle it out with the redrawing of congressional maps, which happens once per decade following the census. This process has the potential to influence the balance of power for years to come. Republicans currently have control of redistricting and 18 states. Including big ones like Florida, North Carolina and Texas. Seeds gained by redistricting alone may be enough to give Republicans a majority in the house in 2022. But the National Democratic Redistricting Committee has been strategizing for this moment for the past four years. Spoke with Kelli Ward Burton, their executive director, and asked her what kinds of things they've been doing to prepare for this moment, our entire model and the reason for NDRC was to create a centralized hub for a comprehensive redistricting strategy. So that we could prepare for this moment that we are now in. You know, we've been very aggressively active in court to sue against the Jerry Mander maps of the last decade, and we've seen some real success on that front. I'm notably we got new maps in North Carolina and Virginia, which helped you know the congressional majority that we have now. We also have been trying to move the needle on the power structure of redistricting, both through elections. So who has a seat at the table when maps are drawn and also by supporting reforms to make the redistricting process? More fair? You know the valid initiatives to support independent commissions statutory reforms, like in Ohio to give a voice to the minority party in the Legislature. And what do you say to Democrats who feel like you know, In some cases, these redistricting commissions might actually give Republicans an advantage. Well, when you look at the redistricting power structure, it's really important to compare 2021 2 2011. So it's not just about the 2020 election. You have to go back and look at how we moved the needle since the last redistricting process, And there has been a lot of movement in the direction of fairness since 2011 and there's there's a number of things that you can point you. For example, this is going to be the first time ever where the majority of congressional seats are drawn by either some type of commission or with some type of reformed effort in place that checks the majority, so the ability of the Republicans to do what they did last time where they had Tri factor control over the redistricting process in the vast majority of states to the tune of 213 congressional seats. That is no longer on the table, You know, Look, we don't want to Jerry Mander for Democrats. We don't think that you need to break this system in our favor. In order for us to win. We want the system to be fair. We want the maps to be fair. We want democracy, toe work. We're not scared of the voters. We want to have a system where we talked to them. We work with them. We make our Case, and then voters have the opportunity to fairly choose, you know, one side or the other. And what we've seen from the Republicans over the course of the last several years, particularly in the last several months is that they're very willing to break democracy in order to maintain power, and we are Watching them very closely on redistricting because they're already indicating that they will use Jerry Mannering in the same way that they've been using voter suppression in the same way that they've been using frivolous lawsuits. You know all these tactics that we've seen from from Trump and other Republicans to maintain power, no matter the cost to democracy they're willing to do that. And you know, Jerry mentoring is a version of that. We really see the fight for fair maps in the context of Protecting and fortifying our democracy. That's how we see it, And I think that's that's an accurate read on the.

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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

04:55 min | 10 months ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on KQED Radio

"And that's what we're going to be fighting for during this redistricting process. Kelli Ward Burton is executive director at the National Democratic Redistricting Committee. The Republican counterpart to the National Democratic Redistricting Committee is the national Republican redistricting Trust and like the NDRC, they, too are hard at work, preparing for what, sure to be a long and drawn out process. Did you catch that drawn out anyway? Adam Kincaid is the group's president and executive director. Spoke to him about their priorities as stay start to organize had of redistricting. The National Republican redistricting Trust focuses on data and litigation. Those are our primary jobs are number one thing we've done is we've built a redistricting database for all 50 states. That's something that people don't believe this when I tell them, but it's true. It's something we've actually never had. On our side of the aisle before and that's handicapped, our ability to help, you know, states that maybe you're our blue, but they're still Republicans there that would like to have a voice in the process. So that was our number One priority was to fix that problem. Democrats have had groups that have done this for decades. We've never had a group that built this level of Kind of an exhaustive database. Until now, That was priority number one. Now the trust is kind of moving forward to the next phase. We're doing a lot of public education. We're doing a lot of education with legislators with legislative staff. Then, after the maps were drawn, we will go into a litigation phase. I was going to ask you specifically about litigation because you also made this point to New York Times did a piece recently. Featuring Democrats and Republicans and you in particular saying that your focus was going to be defending maps drawn by Republicans and being more aggressive. About going after democratic Jerry Manders in the blue states. So can you talk to us about the blue states that you're going to be spending time looking at and where our states in which say in 2010, or in previous years, you as he said, You were not aggressive enough and How you'll be more aggressive this time around so well talk about the blue states. I'm talking about the six states that Democrats have full control over congressional redistricting. Those air Massachusetts, Maryland, New Mexico, Oregon in Illinois, and so what we're going to be doing is looking at each of those as the maps were drawn how the process unfolds. On DSI. Do the Democrats adhere to their own state criteria to they are here to you know, federal law where its applicants are there other opportunities for us to sue under state constitutions. This is something that Democrats did a really good job doing over the last few years is they went into these states, and they sued under state constitutions and Brought some novel claims that had never been brought before, And we're gonna be looking to do the same sort of thing in those states because we haven't been on offense. We have been on constant defense for a decade. And it's cost us. What do you foresee as the kind of cases that you would be bringing up as you're looking at some of these maps that Democrats are going to be drawing, so one of the problems that we have with litigation moving forward is something that the Democrats ran up against last time, which is that the Supreme Court has said You can't bring Artist in gerrymandering claims in federal court, which means a lot more of these claims. You're going to be brought in state corpse, and what Democrats have done is they've used clauses like the free and fair elections clauses in state constitutions to go into and argue that map should be redrawn. We'll be looking at clauses like that. Other ones that may allude toe, maybe geographic principles and redistricting that exist in some places that may be violated with maps drawn by Democrat legislatures and signed by Democrat governors and some of those spots, so those those sort of things will be looking at and then Yeah, we'll be finding plaintiffs toe working with plaintiffs in states where there are voting Rights Act claims that need to be brought, and that's another thing. That will definitely be a talking to folks about in each state. As you know, people come forward with issues, but you know, there's Again when you're looking at redistricting moving forward. The litigation that's going to come is going to be multi faceted. You're gonna have it. But the problem is that The the, Um Congress hasn't really spelled out those criteria. Right? And there's nothing the U s Constitution about. Um, you know what you know, Jerry Mannering is or is not. It's kind of in the eye of the beholder. And so what we're going to be doing is looking the state constitutions that do have some of those criteria on by looking at how we can bring cases around this. Adam Kincaid. I really appreciate you taking the time and talking us through this and obviously we'll be talking to a lot more as we go through this year class. Thanks so much. Adam Kincaid is president and executive director of the National Republican Redistricting Trust..

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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

04:10 min | 10 months ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Corner Redistricting After the contentious 2020 election, Democrats narrowly control both houses of Congress, but the parties will battle it out with the redrawing of congressional maps, which happens once predicted following the census. This process has the potential to influence the balance of power for years to come. Republicans currently have control of redistricting and 18 states, including big ones like Florida, North Carolina and Texas. Seats gained by redistricting alone may be enough to give Republicans a majority in the house in 2022. But the National Democratic Redistricting Committee has been strategizing for this moment For the past four years. I spoke with Kelli Ward Burton, their executive director, and asked her what kinds of things they've been doing to prepare for this moment, our entire model and the reason for NDRC was to create a centralized hub for a comprehensive redistricting strategy. So that we could prepare for this moment that we are now in. You know, we've been very aggressively active in court to sue against the Jerry Mander maps of the last decade, and we've seen some real success on that front. Notably, we got new maps in North Carolina and Virginia, which helped you know the congressional majority that we have now. We also have been trying to move the needle on the power structure of redistricting, both through election. So who has a seat at the table when maps are drawn and also by supporting reforms to make the redistricting process? More fair, You know the ballot initiatives to support independent commissions, statutory reforms, like in Ohio to give a voice to the minority party in the Legislature. And what do you say to Democrats who feel like you know, In some cases, these redistricting commissions might actually give Republicans an advantage. Well, when you look at the redistricting power structure, it's really important to compare 2021 2 2011. So it's not just about the 2020 election. You have to go back and look at how we moved the needle since the last redistricting process, And there has been a lot of movement in the direction of fairness since 2011 and there's there's a number of things that you can point you. For example, this is going to be the first time ever where the majority of congressional seats are drawn by either some type of commission or with some type of reformed effort in place that checks the majority, so the ability of the Republicans to do what they did last time where they had Tri factor control over the redistricting process in the vast majority of states to the tune of 213 congressional seats. That is no longer on the table, You know, Look, we don't want to Jerry Mander for Democrats. We don't think that you need to break the system in our favor. In order for us to win. We want the system to be fair. We want the maps to be fair. We want democracy, toe work. We're not scared of the voters. We want to have a system where we talked to them. We work with them. We make our Case, and then voters have the opportunity to fairly choose, you know, one side or the other. And what we've seen from the Republicans over the course of the last several years, particularly in the last several months is that they're very willing to break democracy in order to maintain power, and we are Watching them very closely on redistricting because they're already indicating that they will use Jerry Mannering in the same way that they've been using voter suppression in the same way that they've been using frivolous lawsuits. You know all these tactics that we've seen from from Trump and other Republicans to maintain power, no matter the cost to democracy they're willing to do that. And you know, Jerry mentoring is a version of that. We really see the fight for fair maps in the context of Protecting and fortifying our democracy. That's how we see it, And I think that's that's an accurate read on the situation. So you know commissions are part of that fairness is part of that fair maps is part of that,.

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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

05:00 min | 10 months ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"You know commissions are part of that fairness is part of that fair maps is part of that, and that's what we're going to be fighting for during this redistricting process. Kelli Ward Burton is executive director at the National Democratic Redistricting Committee. The Republican counterpart to the National Democratic Redistricting Committee is the national Republican redistricting Trust and like the NDRC, they, too are hard at work, preparing for what, sure to be a long and drawn out process. Did you catch that drawn out anyway? Adam Kincaid is the group's president and executive director. Spoke to him about their priorities as stay start to organize had of redistricting. The National Republican redistricting Trust focuses on data and litigation. Those are our primary jobs are number one thing we've done is we've built a redistricting database for all 50 states. That's something that people don't believe this when I tell them, but it's true. It's something we've actually never had. On our side of the aisle before and that's handicapped, our ability to help, you know, states that maybe you're our blue, but they're still Republicans there that would like to have a voice in the process. That was our number One priority was to fix that problem. Democrats have had groups that have done this for decades. We've never had a group that built this level of Kind of an exhaustive database. Until now, That was priority number one. Now the trust is kind of moving forward to the next phase. We're doing a lot of public education. We're doing a lot of education with legislators with legislative staff. Then, after the maps were drawn, we will go into a litigation phase. I was going to ask you specifically about litigation because you also made this point to New York Times did a piece recently. Featuring Democrats and Republicans and you in particular saying that your focus was going to be defending maps drawn by Republicans and being more aggressive. About going after democratic Jerry Manders in the blue states, So can you talk to us about The blue states that you're going to be spending time looking at and where our states in which say in 2010, or in previous years, you as you said, you were not aggressive enough and how you'll be more aggressive this time around. So we'll talk about the blue states. I'm talking about the six states that Democrats have full control over congressional redistricting. Those air Massachusetts, Maryland, New Mexico, Oregon in Illinois, and so what we're going to be doing is looking at each of those as the maps were drawn how the process unfolds. On DSI. Do the Democrats adhere to their own state criteria to they are here to you know, federal law where it's applicant. Are there other opportunities for us to sue under State constitutions. This is something that Democrats did a really good job doing over the last few years is they went into these states, and they sued under state constitutions and brought some novel claims that had never been brought before, and We're gonna be looking to do the same sort of thing in those states because we haven't been on offense. We have been on constant defense for a decade, and it's cost us. What do you foresee as the kind of cases That you would be bringing up as you're looking at some of these maps that Democrats are going to be drawing. So one of the problems that we have with litigation moving forward is something that the Democrats ran up against last time, which is that the Supreme Court has said you can't bring Artist in Jerry Mandarin claims in federal court, which means a lot more of these claims are going to be brought in state courts, and what Democrats have done is they've used clauses like the free and fair elections clauses and state constitutions to go and sue and argue that map should be redrawn. We'll be looking at clauses like that. Other ones that may elude toe, maybe geographic principles and redistricting that exist in some places that may be violated with maps drawn by, you know, Democrat legislatures and signed by Democrat governors and some of those spots. So this is sort of things will be looking at. And then we'll be finding plaintiffs toe working with plaintiffs in states where there are voting Rights Act claims that need to be brought and that's another thing that will definitely be Be talking to folks about in each state. As you know, people come forward with issues, but you know, there's again when you're looking at redistricting moving forward. The litigation that's going to come is going to be multi faceted. You're gonna have it. But the problem is that The the, Um Congress hasn't really spelled out those criteria. Right? And there's nothing the U s Constitution about. Um, you know what you know, Jerry Mannering is or is not. It's kind of in the eye of the beholder. And so what we're going to be doing is looking the state constitutions that do have some of those criteria on by looking at how we can bring cases around this. Adam Kincaid. I really appreciate you taking the time and talking us through this and Obviously, we'll be talking to a lot more as we go through this year collapsing Thanks so much. Adam Kincaid is president and executive director of the National Republican Redistricting Trust..

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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

04:21 min | 10 months ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"And am a 20 NPR News and the New York conversation. It's politics with Amy Walter on the take away. Another big issue just around the corner Redistricting. After the contentious 2020 election. Democrats narrowly control both houses of Congress, but the parties will battle it out with the redrawing of congressional maps, which happens once per decade following the census. This process has the potential to influence the balance of power for years to come. Republicans currently have control of redistricting and 18 states, including big ones like Florida, North Carolina and Texas. Seats gained by redistricting alone may be enough to give Republicans a majority in the house in 2022. But the National Democratic Redistricting Committee has been strategizing for this moment for the past four years. Spoke with Kelli Ward Burton, their executive director, and asked her what kinds of things they've been doing to prepare for this moment, our entire model and the reason for NDRC was to create a centralized hub for a comprehensive redistricting strategy. So that we could prepare for this moment that we are now in. You know, we've been very aggressively active in court to sue against the jury mannered maps of the last decade, and we've seen some real success on that front. I'm notably we got new maps in North Carolina and Virginia, which helped you know the congressional majority that we have now. We also have been trying to move the needle on the power structure of redistricting, both through elections. So who has a seat at the table when maps are drawn and also by supporting reforms to make the redistricting process? More fair? You know the valid initiatives to support independent commissions statutory reforms, like in Ohio to give a voice to the minority party in the Legislature. And what do you say to Democrats who feel like you know, In some cases, these redistricting commissions might actually give Republicans an advantage. Well, when you look at the redistricting power structure, it's really important to compare 2021 2 2011. So it's not just about the 2020 election. You have to go back and look at how we moved the needle since the last redistricting process, And there has been a lot of movement in the direction of fairness since 2011 and there's there's a number of things that you can point you. For example, this is going to be the first time ever where the majority of congressional seats are drawn by either some type of commission or with some type of reformed effort in place that checks the majority, so the ability of the Republicans to do what they did last time where they had Tri factor control over the redistricting process in the vast majority of states to the tune of 213 congressional seats. That is no longer on the table, You know, Look, we don't want to Jerry Mander for Democrats. We don't think that you need to break this system in our favor. In order for us to win. We want the system to be fair. We want the maps to be fair. We want democracy, toe work. We're not scared of the voters. We want to have a system where we talked to them. We work with them. We make our Case, and then voters have the opportunity to fairly choose, you know, one side or the other. And what we've seen from the Republicans over the course of the last several years, particularly in the last several months is that they're very willing to break democracy in order to maintain power, and we are Watching them very closely on redistricting because they're already indicating that they will use Jerry Mannering in the same way that they've been using voter suppression in the same way that they've been using frivolous lawsuits. You know all these tactics that we've seen from from Trump and other Republicans to maintain power, no matter the cost to democracy they're willing to do that. And you know, Jerry mentoring is a version of that. We really see the fight for fair maps in the context of Protecting and fortifying our democracy. That's how we see it, And I think that's that's an accurate read on the situation. So.

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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on The Takeaway

The Takeaway

08:10 min | 10 months ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on The Takeaway

"Our entire model and the the reason for npr see was to create a centralized hub for a comprehensive redistricting strategy. So that we could prepare for this moment that we are now in Been very aggressively active in court to sue against the gerrymandered maps of the last decade. And we've seen some real success on that front notably. We got new maps in north carolina and virginia which helped the congressional majority that we have now We also have been trying to move the needle on the power structure of redistricting both through election. So who has a seat at the table when maps are drawn and also by supporting reforms to make the redistricting process more fair You know the ballot initiatives to support independent commissions statutory reforms like in ohio to give a voice to the minority party in the legislature. And what do you say to democrats who feel like. In some cases these redistricting commissions might actually give republicans an advantage. Well when you look at the redistricting power structure it's really important to compare twenty twenty one to twenty eleven so it's not just about the twenty twenty election you have to go back and look at how we moved the needle since the last redistricting process and there has been a lot of movement in the direction of fairness Since two thousand eleven. And there's there's a number of things that you can point to. For example this is going to be the first time ever where the majority of congressional seats are drawn by either some type of commission or with some type of reformed effort in place that checks the majority so the ability of the republicans to do what they did last time where they had trifecta control over the redistricting process in the vast majority of states to the tune of two hundred and thirteen congressional seats. That is no longer on the table. You know look. We don't want to gerrymander for democrats. We don't think that you need to break the system in our favor in order for us to win. We want the system to be fair. We want the maps to be fair. We want democracy to work. We're not scared of the voters. We want to have a system where we talk to them. We work with them. We make our case. And then voters have the opportunity to fairly choose one side or the other and what we've seen from the republicans over the course of the last several years. Particularly the last several months is that they are very willing to break democracy in order to maintain power and we are watching them very closely on redistricting because they're already indicating that they will use gerrymandering in the same way that they've been using voter suppression in the same way that they've been using frivolous lawsuits. You know all these tactics that we've seen from from trump and other republicans to maintain power matter the cost to democracy. They're willing to do that. And you know gerrymandering is a version of that. We really see the fight for fair maps in the context of protecting and fortifying our democracy. That's how we see it. And i think that's that's an accurate read on the situation. So you know commissions are part of that fairness is part of that fair maps is that and that's what we're going to be fighting for. During this redistricting process kelli ward burton is executive director at the national democratic redistricting committee the republican counterpart to the national democratic redistricting committee is the national republican redistricting. Trust and like the end. Drc they too are hard at work preparing for sure to be a long drawn out process. Did you catch that drought anyway. Adam kincaid is the group's president and executive director spoke to him about their priorities as state start to organize ahead of redistricting national. Republican redistricting trust focuses on data and litigation. Those are our primary jobs are number. One thing we've done is we've built tae redistricting database for all fifty states. That's something that people don't believe this when i tell them. But it's true it's something we've actually never had on our side of the aisle before and that's handicapped ability to help you know stage that maybe are are blue. But they're still republicans there they would like to have a voice in the process so that was our number. One priority was to fix that problem. Democrats had groups that have done this for decades. We've never had a group that built this level of Kind of an exhaustive database until now that was priority number one now. The trust is kind of moving forward into the next phase. We're doing a lot of public education. We're doing a lot of education with legislators with legislative staff. Then after the maps are drawn we will go into a litigation face. I was going to ask you specifically about litigation because you also made this point. The new york times did a piece recently featuring democrats and republicans and you in particular saying that your focus was going to be defending maps drawn by republicans and being more aggressive about going after democratic gerrymanders in the blue states. So can you talk to us about the blue states that you're going to be spending time looking at and where are states in which say in two thousand ten or in previous years you as you said you were not aggressive enough and how you'll be more aggressive this time around so we'll talk about the blue states talking about the six states that democrats have full control over congressional redistricting Those are massachusetts maryland new mexico oregon in illinois. And so what we're going to be doing is looking at each of those as the maps drawn. How the process unfolds And and see do the democrats adhere to their own state criteria. Ju they a here to federal law where it's applicable opportunities for us to sue under State constitutions this is something that democrats did a really good job doing over the last few years they went into these states and they sued under state constitutions in some novel claims. That had never been brought forward. And we're going to be looking to do the same sort of thing in those states because we haven't been on offense. We have been on constant defense for a decade. And it's cost us. What do you foresee the kind of cases that you would be bringing up as you're looking at some of these maps that democrats are going to be drying so one of the problems that we have with litigation. Moving forward is something that the democrats ran up against last time. Which is that. The supreme court has said you can't bring artisan gerrymandering claims federal court which means a lot more of these claims are going to be brought in state courts. And so what. Democrats have done is they've used. Clauses like the free and fair elections clauses in state constitutions to go ensuite argue. That map should be redrawn. We'll be looking at clauses like that Other ones that may allude to maybe geographic principles and redistricting that exists in some places that may be violated with maps drawn by democrat legislatures and signed by democrat governors. Some of those spots So those sort of things we'll be looking at and then yet will be finding plaintiffs to You know working with plaintiffs in states where they're voting rights act claims that need to be brought and that's another thing that will definitely be be talking to folks about any each state as you know people come forward with issues but yeah this again when you're looking at redistricting moving forward the litigation that's going to come is going to be multi faceted you're gonna have But the problem is that the Congress hasn't really spelled out those criteria right and there's nothing the us constitution about You know what gerrymandering is not. It's kind of in the eye of the beholder and so what we're going to be doing is state constitutions that do have some of those criteria And looking at how we can bring cases around us adam kincaid. I really appreciate you taking the time and and talking us through this and obviously we'll be talking to a lot more as we go through this year. Thanks so much adam. Kincaid is president and executive director of.

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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

10:55 min | 1 year ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

"With less than 100 days before the presidential election. U. S intelligence officials are warning that Russia and other adversaries are once again interfering in our democratic process. In 2016, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered his intelligence agencies to create chaos in our system, using a combination of social media manipulation, propaganda and other dirty tricks. President. Trump's Justice Department currently has at least two open cases against Russian citizens for disrupting the 2016 presidential and congressional elections. As we first reported last November, 12 Russian military officers are still at large, charged with breaking into the Democratic Party's computers in 2016. Stealing compromising information and selectively releasing it to undermine specific candidates. There's no evidence of similar operations against Republicans in 2016. With the 2020 election's just around the corner. Ah cautionary tale, the Russian hack. The Russians never left. I can guarantee you in 2016. After this all into news. They never left. They didn't stop doing what they're doing. This wasn't just a one time thing. No way. Russia doesn't do it that way. Robert Anderson should know. He spent 21 years inside the cloak and dagger world of spies and hackers overseeing the FBI's counterintelligence and cyber divisions. And tracking Moscow spy agencies, an alphabet of artifice, the FSB S V, R, and especially the G R U G. RU is military intelligence. So when we look at the attacks that happened during a presidential Races in 2016. You had military organisations inside of Russia attacking our infrastructure. So are the hackers or are the soldiers? So they're both on in most cases in most these units or not just hackers. They're probably some of the best mathematical minds in Russia. These air seasoned professionals that have worked away up the ranks to be in these units. To carry out the strategic attacks on behalf of that country. These are the hacker soldiers from G R U unit 26165, who, according to the Justice Department were responsible for breaking and entering into the Democratic Party's computers remotely from Moscow. Their names, ranks and faces are now on the FBI's most wanted list for stealing, among other things, the Democrats, strategic plans detailed targeting data and internal polling. G R U Colonel Alexander also joke commanded a separate unit. 744551 of his officers was in charge of spreading this stolen material to political operatives, bloggers and the media. Another hack state election boards. It wasn't some £400 guy in his parents Basement. No, this was a well choreographed military operation. With units that not only were set up specifically to hack into obtain information, but other units that were used for psychological warfare or weaponizing that this is not an operation that was just put together haphazardly. So that was the 26165 unit. The Justice Department's National security division is overseeing the Russian hacking case once they're doing that keystroke monitoring, Assistant Attorney General John Dimmers runs the division. Along with the deputies, Adam Hickey and Sean knew DOJ attorney Heather Al Pino worked with special counsel Mueller on the Russian indictments all have access to the underlying intelligence and have no doubt the rush. Shins interfered in the 2016 election. This really happened. Yes, that really happened. And we believe that if we had to, we could prove that in court tomorrow, using only admissible non classified evidence to 12 jurors. You ever expect to get the 12 Russian officials The trial. I would be surprised, But the purpose of the indictment isn't just that, although that's certainly one of the purposes, the purposes of this kind of indictment is even, uh, to educate the public. For a legal document. The 29 page indictment is a page Turner It. Details how U. S intelligence agencies tracked each defendant's actions, sometimes by the keystroke, revealing the fictitious names and phony emails used to infiltrate the Democrats, computers. And tracing the stolen data on its circuitous route from Washington, D. C. To Moscow. The information in the indictment is very detailed. You have descriptions of the Russian agents. Typing. Into their computers. Obviously, I can't go into too much detail because I don't want to reveal investigative methods. But the inside here is that behind every one of those Keyboard's is not night P address. It's a human being those indicted G R U agents. The U. S. Says one team, working out of a building in Moscow called the Tower created a website and a provocative character to disseminate this stolen material. Lucifer 2.0 So goose over 2.0 is a fictional online persona. It's all an effort. The Russian side to hide their involvement. And these guys are pretending to be one lone hacker. Correct, and that works. What it gives them is plausible deniability. Right. They don't need to work 100% as long as the Russians, Khun say. Wasn't us. Posing as goose A for 2.0. The Russians offered up stolen documents to Julian Assange, Jas wiki leaks and self proclaimed dirty trickster Roger Stone. It was all part of a broad campaign to disrupt the presidential election. But there was another less well known part of the Russian operation to undermine Democrats running for Congress. It started as large document dumps where goose for 2.0 was kind of taunting and saying, I have more Kelli Ward Burton was executive director of the D. Triple C. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. When the Russians hacked the committee's computers, these bullet points at the top are the summary for how we need to win. They swiped and dumped on the Internet material, she told us cost millions of dollars to produce. Battle plans for congressional races, demographic research on voters and extensive dossiers on the weaknesses of their own candidates. So when we deliberate internally about anything, you know that's not intended to be made public, and that's what makes this so important to understand these as stolen documents. It's not different than Watergate. It's not different than When Republicans came into the DNC and stole documents from the file cabinets. It's the cyber version of that they came into our office and they stole Our documents. Documents were never intended to be public. And then they used that in the election, even Democrat party bosses or questioning his character. Ward was shocked when Republicans used the stolen internal materials in this negative ad. We reach out to them and ask them, you know, we way, said We've been the victims of a cyber attack by a foreign adversary. Will you make a commitment not to use any of these stolen materials in In the campaigner in the 2016 election, and they wouldn't make a commitment to do so, she says. In the months leading up to the elections, Russian tactics evolved, the indiscriminate document dumps became more frequent and strategic. There would be thousands of documents that would show up on one day and then they got smarter and he started to really specific documents. Related to our specific races or documents that were in art most targeted states and are most targeted areas. A Russian agent stole material about candidates running for Congress in Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Ohio, Illinois, Nebraska, New Mexico and North Carolina. But one swing state seemed to be the Kremlin's primary target, Florida In 2016 Annette today or was running for Congress in the 26th district, which stretches from South Miami to the Florida Keys, one of the most hotly contested races in this battleground state. Today. Oh, had the full backing of the D. Triple C, but her campaign was up ended two weeks before the primary. I was on my way, Tio. TV debate live TV debate and I get the call. About the fact that not only where we hacked but our information. It's now public from our polling to our mail plan. In addition to that, the entire Half the victory. Is your game plan? Yes. My opponent, Joe Garcia showed up at the debate with a print out. Of all the documents data. Her primary opponent, a fellow Democrat, use the hack material as a prop to paint her as a conniving politician. It's a contract on the same day Gustave for 2.0 dropped this mocking post. The congressional primaries are also becoming a farce. Today we lost the primary, Garcia went on to lose the election to the Republican candidate. You describe South Florida's rough and tumble, but this seems to ratchet it up a notch. I've seen a lot here, but this was This was a foreign government. This was so much bigger. You know, I've been told by a lot of people you should stop talking about. This is really not Good for you politically to remind people that you lost but I refused to stop talking about it. Because again if it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone and it didn't happen to me..

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DOJ won't reveal congressional candidate who asked for, received hacked info on their opponent

60 Minutes

08:45 min | 1 year ago

DOJ won't reveal congressional candidate who asked for, received hacked info on their opponent

"With less than 100 days before the presidential election. U. S intelligence officials are warning that Russia and other adversaries are once again interfering in our democratic process. In 2016, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered his intelligence agencies to create chaos in our system, using a combination of social media manipulation, propaganda and other dirty tricks. President. Trump's Justice Department currently has at least two open cases against Russian citizens for disrupting the 2016 presidential and congressional elections. As we first reported last November, 12 Russian military officers are still at large, charged with breaking into the Democratic Party's computers in 2016. Stealing compromising information and selectively releasing it to undermine specific candidates. There's no evidence of similar operations against Republicans in 2016. With the 2020 election's just around the corner. Ah cautionary tale, the Russian hack. The Russians never left. I can guarantee you in 2016. After this all into news. They never left. They didn't stop doing what they're doing. This wasn't just a one time thing. No way. Russia doesn't do it that way. Robert Anderson should know. He spent 21 years inside the cloak and dagger world of spies and hackers overseeing the FBI's counterintelligence and cyber divisions. And tracking Moscow spy agencies, an alphabet of artifice, the FSB S V, R, and especially the G R U G. RU is military intelligence. So when we look at the attacks that happened during a presidential Races in 2016. You had military organisations inside of Russia attacking our infrastructure. So are the hackers or are the soldiers? So they're both on in most cases in most these units or not just hackers. They're probably some of the best mathematical minds in Russia. These air seasoned professionals that have worked away up the ranks to be in these units. To carry out the strategic attacks on behalf of that country. These are the hacker soldiers from G R U unit 26165, who, according to the Justice Department were responsible for breaking and entering into the Democratic Party's computers remotely from Moscow. Their names, ranks and faces are now on the FBI's most wanted list for stealing, among other things, the Democrats, strategic plans detailed targeting data and internal polling. G R U Colonel Alexander also joke commanded a separate unit. 744551 of his officers was in charge of spreading this stolen material to political operatives, bloggers and the media. Another hack state election boards. It wasn't some £400 guy in his parents Basement. No, this was a well choreographed military operation. With units that not only were set up specifically to hack into obtain information, but other units that were used for psychological warfare or weaponizing that this is not an operation that was just put together haphazardly. So that was the 26165 unit. The Justice Department's National security division is overseeing the Russian hacking case once they're doing that keystroke monitoring, Assistant Attorney General John Dimmers runs the division. Along with the deputies, Adam Hickey and Sean knew DOJ attorney Heather Al Pino worked with special counsel Mueller on the Russian indictments all have access to the underlying intelligence and have no doubt the rush. Shins interfered in the 2016 election. This really happened. Yes, that really happened. And we believe that if we had to, we could prove that in court tomorrow, using only admissible non classified evidence to 12 jurors. You ever expect to get the 12 Russian officials The trial. I would be surprised, But the purpose of the indictment isn't just that, although that's certainly one of the purposes, the purposes of this kind of indictment is even, uh, to educate the public. For a legal document. The 29 page indictment is a page Turner It. Details how U. S intelligence agencies tracked each defendant's actions, sometimes by the keystroke, revealing the fictitious names and phony emails used to infiltrate the Democrats, computers. And tracing the stolen data on its circuitous route from Washington, D. C. To Moscow. The information in the indictment is very detailed. You have descriptions of the Russian agents. Typing. Into their computers. Obviously, I can't go into too much detail because I don't want to reveal investigative methods. But the inside here is that behind every one of those Keyboard's is not night P address. It's a human being those indicted G R U agents. The U. S. Says one team, working out of a building in Moscow called the Tower created a website and a provocative character to disseminate this stolen material. Lucifer 2.0 So goose over 2.0 is a fictional online persona. It's all an effort. The Russian side to hide their involvement. And these guys are pretending to be one lone hacker. Correct, and that works. What it gives them is plausible deniability. Right. They don't need to work 100% as long as the Russians, Khun say. Wasn't us. Posing as goose A for 2.0. The Russians offered up stolen documents to Julian Assange, Jas wiki leaks and self proclaimed dirty trickster Roger Stone. It was all part of a broad campaign to disrupt the presidential election. But there was another less well known part of the Russian operation to undermine Democrats running for Congress. It started as large document dumps where goose for 2.0 was kind of taunting and saying, I have more Kelli Ward Burton was executive director of the D. Triple C. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. When the Russians hacked the committee's computers, these bullet points at the top are the summary for how we need to win. They swiped and dumped on the Internet material, she told us cost millions of dollars to produce. Battle plans for congressional races, demographic research on voters and extensive dossiers on the weaknesses of their own candidates. So when we deliberate internally about anything, you know that's not intended to be made public, and that's what makes this so important to understand these as stolen documents. It's not different than Watergate. It's not different than When Republicans came into the DNC and stole documents from the file cabinets. It's the cyber version of that they came into our office and they stole Our documents. Documents were never intended to be public. And then they used that in the election, even Democrat party bosses or questioning his character. Ward was shocked when Republicans used the stolen internal materials in this negative ad. We reach out to them and ask them, you know, we way, said We've been the victims of a cyber attack by a foreign adversary. Will you make a commitment not to use any of these stolen materials in In the campaigner in the 2016 election, and they wouldn't make a commitment to do so, she says. In the months leading up to the elections, Russian tactics evolved, the indiscriminate document dumps became more frequent and strategic. There would be thousands of documents that would show up on one day and then they got smarter and he started to really specific documents. Related to our specific races or documents that were in art most targeted states and are most targeted areas.

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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

760 KFMB Radio

13:39 min | 2 years ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

"Our twenty sixteen election including the president's assertion that Ukraine was involved but the president's own intelligence agencies say it was the Russians who hacked the twenty sixteen elections special counsel Robert Muller spelled it out in his report now the justice department has at least to open cases against Russian citizens for interfering with our presidential and congressional races we decided to take a closer look at one of them the case against twelve Russian military officers accused of breaking into the democratic party's computers stealing compromising information and selectively releasing it to undermine democratic candidates there's no evidence of similar operations against Republicans in twenty sixteen with the twenty twenty election approaching the story of the Russian hack the Russians never left I can guarantee you in twenty sixteen after this all at the news they never left they didn't stop doing what they're doing this wasn't just a one time thing No Way Russia doesn't do it that way Anderson should know he spent twenty one years inside the cloak and dagger world of spies in hackers overseeing the F. B. I.'s counter intelligence and cyber divisions and tracking Moscow spy agency an alphabet of artifice the F. S. B. S. V. R. and especially the G. R. U. G. R. U. is military intelligence so when we look at the attacks that happened during a presidential races in twenty sixteen you had military organizations inside of Russia attacking our infrastructure sure the hackers or are the soldiers so they're both and in most cases in most of these units are not just hackers they're probably some of the best mathematical minds in Russia these are seasoned professionals that have worked their way up the ranks to be in these units to carry out the strategic attacks on behalf of that country these are the hacker soldiers from G. R. U. unit two six one six five who according to the justice department were responsible for breaking and entering into the Democratic Party's computers remotely from Moscow their names ranks and faces are now on the F. B. I.'s most wanted list for stealing among other things the Democrats strategic plans detailed targeting data and internal polling G. R. U. colonel Alexander so joke commanded a separate unit seven four four five five one of his officers was in charge of spreading the stolen material to political operatives bloggers and the media another hacked state election boards it wasn't some four hundred pound guy in his parents basement no this is a well choreographed military operation with units that not only were set up specifically to hack into obtain information but other units that were used for psychological warfare or weaponize being that this is not an operation that was just put together haphazardly so that was the two six one six five minutes the justice department's national security division is overseeing the Russian hacking case once they're doing that keystroke monitoring assistant Attorney General John dimmers runs the division along with the deputies Adam Hickey and Sean knew from the DOJ attorney heather Alpino worked with special counsel molar on the Russian indictments all have access to the underlying intelligence and have no doubt the Russians interfered in the twenty sixteen election this really happened yes that really happened and we believe that if we had to we could prove that in court tomorrow using only admissible non classified evidence to twelve jurors do you ever expect to get the twelve Russian officials the trial I would be surprised but the purpose of the indictment isn't just that although that's certainly one of the purposes the purposes of this kind of indictment is even to educate the public for a legal document the twenty nine page indictment is a page Turner it details how US intelligence agencies tracked each defendant's actions sometimes by the keystroke revealing the fictitious names and phony emails used to infiltrate the Democrats computers and tracing the stolen data on it Sir cute is route from Washington DC to Moscow the information in the indictment is very detail have descriptions of the Russian agents typing into their computers obviously I can't go into too much detail because I I don't want to reveal investigative methods but the inside here is that behind every one of those keyboards is not an IP address is a human being those indicted G. R. U. age the US says one team working out of a building in Moscow called the tower created a website and a provocative character to disseminate the stolen material so for two point oh focus server to point out is a fiction all online persona it's all an effort in the Russian side to hide their involvement in these guys are pretending to be one lone hackers correct and that works when he gives them is plausible deniability right the day they don't need it to work a hundred percent as long as the Russians can say was not posing is good for for two point no the Russians offered up stolen documents to Julian Assange's wikileaks and self proclaimed dirty trickster Roger stone it was all part of a broad campaign to disrupt the presidential election but there was another less well known part of the Russian operation to undermine Democrats running for Congress it started as large document docks where so for two point now was kind of taunting and saying I have more Kelli ward Burton was executive director of the D. triple see the democratic congressional campaign committee when the Russians hacked the committee's computers these bullet points at the top are the summary for how we need to win get a Swype dumped on the internet material she told us cost millions of dollars to produce battle plans for congressional races demographic research on voters and extensive dossiers on the weaknesses of their own candidates so when we deliberate internally about anything you know that's not intended to be made public and that's what makes this so important to understand these as stolen documents it's not different than Watergate it's not different than when you know Republicans came into the DNC and stole documents from the file cabinets it's the cyber version of that they came into our office and they stole our documents documents or never intended to be public and then they use that in the election even Democrat party bosses are questioning is character ward was shocked when Republicans used the stolen internal materials in this negative ad we reach out to them and ask them you know we we said we've been the victim of a cyber attack by a foreign adversary will you make a commitment not to use any of the stolen Terry hills in the in the campaign or in the twenty sixteen election and they wouldn't make a commitment to do so she says in the months leading up to the elections Russian tactics involved the indiscriminate document dump became more frequent and strategic there would be thousands of documents that would show up on one day and then they got smarter and he started to really specific documents related to our specific races or documents that were in us in our two most targeted states in our most targeted areas the Russian agents stole material about candidates running for Congress in Pennsylvania New Hampshire Ohio Illinois Nebraska New Mexico and North Carolina one one swing states seem to be the Kremlin's primary target Florida in twenty sixteen Annette today was running for Congress in the twenty sixth district which stretches from south Miami to the Florida Keys one of the most hotly contested races in this battleground state today had the full backing of the D. triple C. but her campaign was up ended two weeks before the primary I was on my way to TV debate live TV debate and I get a call about the fact that not only were we hacked but our information is now public from our polling to our mail planned in addition to that the entire path to victory game play yes my opponent to Arsia showed up at the debate with a print out of all the documents he'll government data her primary opponent a fellow Democrat use the hack material as a prop to paint her as a conniving politician contact the one fifty okay same day for for two point oh drop this mocking post the congressional primaries are also becoming a farce today lost the primary Garcia went on to lose the election to the Republican candidate he describes south Florida's rough and tumble this seems to be ratcheted up a notch we've seen a lot here but this was this was a foreign government this was so much bigger you know I've been told by a lot of people you should stop talking about this is really not good for you politically to remind people that you lost but I refused to stop talking about it because again if it can happen to me it can happen to anyone and it didn't happen to me it happened to our democracy you lost by how much about seven hundred that's this is State where elections are cited by a percentage point or sell a coin toss and the Russians under that and you're looking at a real problem NG Marc Caputo has covered Florida politics for twenty years the senior writer for politico who was one of the reporters who receive and wrote about the hack documents not a lot of people know that the Russians interfered and five congressional races here in Florida when did you first get wind of it well I've been paying attention like the rest of the press corps that Russia had been hacking and Russia had been trying to interfere in our election system and then out of the blue I got contacted by this blogger hello Florida the blogger turned out to be this man Erin net one of the senior political operators in the sunshine state the Republican strategist wouldn't talk to us on camera but he did talk to special counsel Robert Muller as investigators he admits direct messaging good server two point oh asking for any Florida related documents seeing a willing participant the Russians flooded Nevins with hack materials holy F. man he responded I don't think you realize what you gave me this is probably worth millions of dollars so for two point oh responded okay you owe me a million with a smiley face Nevins posted the stolen documents on his website organized in files and alerted Florida journalists who couldn't resist publishing the Democrats secrets at one point Nevins wrote the Russians I honestly think you helped finca net today in Florida twenty six you played a role in disseminating this stolen information I have a role to play as a reporter covering campaigns and sometimes that that information comes to us from a variety of sources and in this case it came to us from the source right at the edge of being unusable ultimately we decided well this tells a legitimate story about how these campaigns view their own candidates and voters have a right to that information this operation was a huge success former FBI spy Robert Anderson says rushes goals today are the same as in the Soviet era to so discord in the US and doubt about our democracy around the world the thing that you need to worry about with Russia and everyone of their intelligence services is they will learn from these operations the learn how easy it is to gain access to government and private accounts the learn how quickly the information and they put in front of somebody will be disseminated they will analyze everything they did right or.

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"kelli ward burton" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030

WBZ NewsRadio 1030

05:14 min | 2 years ago

"kelli ward burton" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030

"Undermine Democrats running for Congress it started as a large document docks where goose for two point now was kind of taunting and saying I have more Kelli ward Burton was executive director of the D. triple see the democratic congressional campaign committee when the Russians had the committee's computers these bullet points at the top are the summary for how we need to win get a Swype dumped on the internet material she told us cost millions of dollars to produce battle plans for congressional races demographic research on voters and extensive dossiers on the weaknesses of their own candidates so when we deliberate internally about anything you know that's not intended to be made public and that's what makes this is so important to understand these as stolen documents it's not different than Watergate it's not different than when you know what Republicans came into the DNC and stole documents from the file cabinets it's the cyber version of that they came into our office and they stole our documents documents or never intended to be public and then they use that in the election even Democrats party bosses are questioning his character ward was shocked when Republicans used the stolen internal materials in this negative ad we reach out to them and ask them you know we we said we've been the victim of a cyber attack by a foreign adversary will you make a commitment not to use any of the stolen Terry hills in the in the campaign or in the twenty sixteen election and they wouldn't make a commitment to do so she says in the months leading up to the elections Russian tactics involved the indiscriminate document a more frequent and strategic there would be thousands of documents that would show up on one day and then they got smarter and he started to really specific documents related to our specific races or documents that were you know in our two most targeted states in our most targeted area as the Russian agents stole material about candidates running for Congress in Pennsylvania New Hampshire Ohio Illinois Nebraska New Mexico and North Carolina but no one's swing states seem to be the Kremlin's primary target Florida in twenty sixteen Annette today or was running for Congress in the twenty sixth district which stretches from south Miami to the Florida Keys one of the most hotly contested races in this battleground state today had the full backing of the D. triple see what her campaign was up ended two weeks before the primary I was on my way to TV debate live TV debate and I get the call about the fact that not only were we act but our information is now public from our polling to our mail planned in addition to that the entire path to victory game play yes my opponent to oversee a showed up at the debate with a print out of all the documents he'll get plenty to her primary opponent a fellow Democrat use the hack material as a prop person to paint her as a conniving politician the other one but the same day cruiser for two point oh drop this mocking post the congressional primaries are also becoming a farce today lost the primary Garcia went on to lose the election to the Republican candidate he describes South Florida is rough and tumble this seems to ratchet it up a notch we've seen a lot here but this was this was a foreign government this was so much bigger you know I've been told by a lot of people you should stop talking about this it's really not good for you politically to remind people that you lost but I refused to stop talking about it because again if it can happen to me it can happen to anyone and it didn't happen to me it happened to our democracy he lost by how much about seven hundred that's this is stay where elections are cited by a percentage point or sell a coin toss and the Russians under that and you're looking at a real problem NG Marc Caputo has covered Florida politics for twenty years the senior writer for political was one of the reporters who received and wrote about the hack you documents they are not a lot of people know that the Russians interfered and five congressional races here in Florida when did you first get wind of it well I've been paying attention like the rest of the press corps that Russia had been hacking and Russia had been trying to interfere in our election system and then out of the blue I got contacted by this blogger hello Florida the blogger turned out.

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