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The Sedano Show (Hr 2)

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

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The Sedano Show (Hr 2)

"Users outta show. You're on ESPN LA turn up in here right now. Bart Scott, Chris for space, nipsy hustle. Rest of peace news. Yes. Right. And all my life. No down before you hit on, you know, nipsy family has turned down a couple of venues for like two thousand seats because it's just not enough seats and size. We'll get it done. They're looking at rumors are they're looking at across the street, a Staples or the form homely, I say Staples Staples can handle that. Because if you do it at the four around. But that's that's Inglewood you to bring in the national guard. This. I hear you Inglewood. Yes. That's kinda hood for him. Right. So yeah, I'll do in good. I would do it at the form. Yeah. I agree. I think that's an iconic venue about. That's what you pay your respects too lazy league? And you know, all these guys that love him a lot of NBA players because she's a big basket. Yes. And if it's next week on a Thursday, it seems like a lot because the playoff seasonably over. Thirteenth. So a lot of guys can come and pay their respects physically. It'd be pretty dope. Hardened westbrook. You start thinking about damore Rosen. A lot of. Oof. Man. I'm seeing this debate on Twitter before I go and move onto the Kobe stuff and the Draymond stuff where he's kinda shady with with K D about Jimmy Butler. Yeah. What would you say? He is top what player top twenty top twenty top twenty top twenty. Okay. Yeah. Let me give you some names Utah me if you think let's just go through roquan because it's like forever is raging debate on Laker Twitter right now. Because look let's face it after what Wendy came in here said yesterday. That's what everybody. Right because they dropped the podcast. But those guys were in here after they dropped before the podcast launched, and we talked about Laker fans should probably start cozying up to the idea of maybe Jimmy Butler is the guy they end up adding in free agency. So there's a lot of debate on Twitter right now about that. So I mean in any order you want to say Katie LeBron staff James harden, Anthony Davis Jaanus, right? Like that's your top five or six. Embiid. Yeah. Oh, yeah. In the top ten. Right. Russell Westbrook stone the top Paul George in the top ten in the top ten. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. So then after that, Damian Lillard. Yeah. Chris paul. Yeah. I can put him there clay. Yes. Yeah. Then it gets dicey. After that Yokich. Definitely. Oh, yeah. That's fifteen. Yeah. And we haven't gotten to Jimmy yet about Ben Simmons. Are you there with him yet? I'm not I'm not, okay. That's fair. Kemba? Okay. So that sixty. Kemba Kemba top twenty man all star. For reason is a killer that sixteen would you rather have Donovan Mitchell then then Jimmy Butler as a player not enough yet? He played enough. Our okay. Jim. Yep. You go Jimmy hours for Donovan Mitchell. Hip how about Ola depot when he was ready. Over over Jimmy. I'm still gonna Jimmy okay? Call Anthony towns. Go car town. Okay. Seventeen. Bradley beal. Like, Bradley Bill a lot too. But I think I will go Jimmy, okay. Okay. So Jimmy's is in that top one twenty. Yeah. Eighteen maybe we can debate a few there. But he's in that conversation. Twenty five. Yeah. I would agree. I think he's a top twenty player. But people are trying to make the argument. He's not those people crazy. Yeah. I think he's top twenty no less than twenty five. But remember he's at a point where it's like a lot of people. He's almost like a wash you're saying. Well, you want him here. Like many actually say, yeah. I can't say one guy is better than the other because they both bring the same amount that he's not, you know, he doesn't have that elite skill set like LeBron or the top four guy that you mentioned hardened staff and all those guy go why? But he brings a a shooters mentality brings defense he brings leadership. He brings a lot to a team of kids plays hard. Right. Two way player to get you buckets. I'd take him on my team all note. No doubt about it. Yeah. So this is not Jimmy Butler fan. Yeah. I remember. I was I Kirk were you in here the day that we told the story with the mean where buyer Inamine, and I were on the air together all of all the Jimmy Butler stuff. We were getting like blow by blow live reports on television having to react in real time. All that stuff that was out. And we were laugh at about it. We're like a Larry's me. But I mean, it also show what type of guy he is. Yeah, he wants to win right? Where he told me third stringers and beat right? And let me make this clear. Right. Would Jimmy whatever he signs say long-term. He's gonna wanna full max. Okay. And full max for him which start at thirty two point seven million dollars. The Lakers have the have believe room for the thirty nine point six million dollar max, which would be like Kevin Durant. So he's just it's based on years of service. Right. Right. Right. So Jimmy, the thirty two point seven max, he's not at the full full. Right. And with the Lakers be able to add someone else. I mean, you probably got like seven million leftovers you talking about like a mid level type player, you know. And then you still have probably the mid level exemption. So I mean, you could you could look it just depends on what you do at that point. You put a lot on. Jimmy to have to carry a big lower. Yeah. Because you come in here to be, Robin. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. Just trying to I know you gotta let the next here free agent or the free agents that come in. It's not like you're playing along with LeBron you're playing as the second option, you're Robin. And how do you tell? You're batman. Yeah. How do you? How do you tell a lot of these? You know, what I mean this second tier of free agents you're coming here to get beat the second option. See that's what I'm that's what I said earlier Kirk I feel it LeBron has to go out and let these guys know that they're not the second option. I need you more than you need me. I need you Jimmy Butler whole lot more than you need me right now to win a championship to bring a championship back to Los Angeles. So he is basically saying I'm gonna take a backseat a lot like LeBron going to Miami. That's the way that's his home. That's his pal. And he did that into Wayne. Wait finally said this Joe team. Yeah. You're the better player take over the same and LeBron was like coup because at first he wouldn't he's not stepping on his toes. Right. This house because Dwayne first year when they were playing Dallas the best player on the floor was not Dirk Nowitzki, Dwayne weight and then LeBron. We know what happened right? And you know, he had a miserable series. But so but for so for him to do that at that time where he could have been a second finals MVP? Right. And so you know, what the best way for us the plays through you go. That's what LeBron needs to do. George. He needs to say, listen, I got two years three years tops left. You know, I need you. You know? So here's the torch. You gonna help us win a championship? And is that Horford alpha dog do absolutely was there. Some of that with Kareem magic. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Magic magic. Look. We knew magic was our best player. Right. But he was he was no way inhale he was gonna try to take that title. Corinne was there. You know, the captain, you know, he never would disrespect him by saying that was just he understood that, you know, we need a cap to be the captain into do what he's been doing for twenty years when he'd left magic. Okay now. That's my this is my team. This is my turn. But we know his team before. Right. You know, the players, you know, we knew it was his team, right? Because Kareem was at the end of that career was at the end of his career Kareem one go, you know, you know, when guys is going to be sitting there huffing and puffing about his. This but magical, go even try that. Right. You know, but behind closed doors. He never had to say, we knew it. He was demand. Right. You know? And like like, we're talking about LeBron has to kind of you know, swallow his pride a little bit and say we're gonna win. I gotta get somebody in here. They can carry the loan. I gotta get somebody can carry a little just like d way who could still carry it back in the day said to him this team. You gotta take we gotta play through you. And he has to he has to recognize and listen LeBron James is one of the smartest dudes in basketball. Correct. What out a doubt, I'm pretty sure he's already figured that out and understand that's something that he's going to have to do this. Speaking of LeBron we talked about maybe some surprises that LeBron had here in LA and Kobe was on Sirius XM today and discuss that very same topic. But he knows I know injuries decimated the team. Just relax relax come back next season regroup. I think he has he has enough poison understand that the thing that may be caught them off guard was just the market. Like, you know, like, I said fancier don't play like like, I know. 'cause like I was dealing with the when I had, you know, smush those guys which guys I'm looking around like, dude. She want me to do as like is your fault figure it out? Like, you gotta we don't wanna hear that. We need a championship the buck stops with you figure it out. And that's that's what LA don't play man said he bring the best out of their players swish. Parco son just hanging out somewhere. Just gave him my head. Yes. Hit him in the head. He'll coconut on the beach somewhere. That right. There was almost like gossiping. Costal what? Now, you know. And I love show boat. That's Kobe Bryant nickname. But he got do a couple of other names. And then why you just want those Bush NATO always my voice Melissa couple of. Tackle some of the stuff. He said on the what he's saying. Let's tackle what he said on the other side. Plus we didn't get to the on throw in shade at K D from the shop. We'll get to that. And Rams fans. I don't know how to feel about this Todd Gurley news on that. We touched on briefly. They will ask Kirk what he thinks about all that coming up. Kirk Moore's hanging out Byron Scott here. So Donna show UCLA sit down show here. ESPN LA Kirk Morrison here Scotus years. Well, we're hanging out with you. So I want to get to this girly thing because Kirk I feel like I don't know how to feel about it. It's all I'm saying Kobe said the thing on Sirius XM was asked about LeBron. And let's say, you know, Kobe was honest, right? Kobe doesn't mince words, and he felt like LeBron may have been a little caught off guard in some cases in his first season. Like, here's what Kobe said on Sirius XM if you missed it earlier he knows and I know injuries decimated. The team. Just relax just relax comeback next season regroup, right? I think he has he has enough poison understand that the thing that maybe caught him off guard was just the market like, you know, like I said fancier don't play. Like like, you know, I know 'cause like I was dealing with. When I had, you know, smush those guys which guys I'm looking around, dude. She want me to do. And I ll as like is your fault figure it out? Like, you got gotta we don't wanna hear that. We need a championship the buck stops, which you figure it out. And that's that's what LA don't play me and bring the best out of their players show. The funny part about that is not Justice mush Parker part because that's funny, obviously time you invoked the name of Smersh Parker's always funny now. It's funny. Wasn't funny back then. But he's right. It's your fault your fault that you're stuck with Bush Parker because you basically for shack out, right? Jack's not here because you guys couldn't get along. So that's what he's saying in that regard. That LA was like it's on you you made this app team. Now you wanted. Let's go right. But I don't know if that's the same situation as LeBron is kind of, you know, come in here taking over. But to extent of what Kobe just said as far as the fans. He's absolutely right. Yep. They're gonna look at the superstar and they're gonna point the finger right at him. And I think, you know, LeBron LeBron handle all this in the media all his life since he was in high school kid has been a fee nom. Everybody knew who he was in high school. Everybody knew he was one of those guys that you knew it was going to be a hall of Famer when he was all said and done so he can handle all this stuff without any problem. But maybe maybe the LA market as far as the fans not saying. Well, okay, we understand that you had all injuries. We understand that. This guy has been we understand it this. You never really had your full full roster. We understand that. No. That's not LA's way. That's not the fast way. It's either championships are bus, you know. And that's that's been you know, ever since I can remember, and it's not gonna change anytime soon. It's funny that you bring that up because Wednesday a stop by UC will spring practice and how to sit down with Klay Hilton, you know, their spring practice tour, and I asked him just look Klay held in your going forth season your first season rolls bowl second for surface Rose Bowl because you win the Pac championships time, you know, they runner up, but the second year Pac twelve championship you go to the Cotton Bowl then last year. Five and seven, right. Like, are you happy that this year? You don't you have lower expectations. You talk about in LA. They it's championship or bus, regardless. We've feel like we're almost professional sports team at USC. It's about championships championships. And to Coby Coby point was that we fill it here at SC that we still feel like it's your fault fault. He had to make changes he changed. He make changes to coaching staff. He's got lashing. You had a freshman at quarterback this year. He's going to actually have a competition. So I'm bringing all that up because that's what the Lakers are going through right now. It's like, you gotta make some wholesale changes. Some that people may not agree with? But you're going to have to do just in in what happened with Kobe after that because they had to make the trae for deal for problem. Remember it got ugly. He was talking about trading. They wanted to be traded. There was the Andrew bynum stuff. Remember the stuff that somebody caught him video in like some strip mall somewhere. And it was like Andrew bynum like we could get Jason Kidd. There was all that stuff. So. Yeah. I mean, I get all that. Lebron's gotta work. He will. Yes. To Byron's point earlier. He's going to have to he's gonna have to work. Lebron has never really look recruiting. He's done some recruiting. So Brian winters in your yesterday and made a great point he recruited Kevin love. Okay. He recruited Kevin love. He actually recruited Paul George before. He left Cleveland. The reason that didn't get done was Indiana at the end in wanna train them to LeBron. But also, Dan Gilbert didn't want to pull the trigger on the deal because after trade all his assets for two guys that we're going to be free agents. And LeBron walk Paul George was definitely walking. I've seen that room that Paul was willing to come join LeBron James so lately in his career. He's done a better job of that. Whereas as you pointed out Byron in Miami that was delayed put that together right now LeBron helped with Ray Allen and Mike Miller those kind of guys those role player guys, but he's going to have to go and help. And get the big Fisher. And by the way, the little fish to fish is not yet. Once he gets the big fish is job is over. It really isn't going to have to get those role players can come in. And also, you know helped him win the championship. So I it's going to be a whole summer. At the baby step. Well, again, I'm looking at it this way because I know goodwill, and we always say if you know 'cause it was fifth wheel. Right. But if these guys don't have the injuries that they had this year they have been right. There's no doubt about it. So you look into the second year now coming together keep someone to assets and some of these pieces that we're talking about then we're looking at a possibility of them being able to challenge in the Western Conference and the enemy the third years when you talking about now, we ready to win a championship. I do think that I'd like to see them all be aligned though. And I mean, LeBron magic, rob. Because it. It's about it. Yeah. We'll just talking about yesterday the day before yesterday that they're the team is not aligned right? Like everyone's kind of in for their own interests. And whether that's getting on the same page is how to build this roster because they kind of seem to be I guess, but clearly that was a mistake the way they built the roster. They need to all present a United front. I think that's as important as anything really at this point. We didn't get to the girly thing. We'll do that next because Gurley was caught on teams E leaving the club. Oh, limping oh. So why Uniqlo so we'll get to that stick around? And we did play the dream on. We'll have that for you as well limping club. Byron Scott hanging out. Kirk Morrison is was Olympic in it too. Hope they was in and out UCLA so data show here on ESPN LA. Byron Scott Morrison hanging out with us today. So tiger -ly. Yeah. Was leaving Craig's? Yup. Couple nights ago favorite joints in West Hollywood. And was limping now it was rumored. Earlier in the offseason. That perhaps Todd Gurley would get stem cell surgery. We were just talking about Coby Coby if you remember had the PCP or whatever the blood blood replacement mud spinning in Germany. Yep. So my if that indeed did happen. I feel like that would be potentially a good reason for him to be limping, you know, just had surgery if that's the case, then I'm okay with him, limping because you got to recover from the surgery, and hopefully that works and he can play and get all his money because we all know in football is monopoly money and the guarantee and his guarantees are a little weird. So and clearly the Rams need him too. But Kirk how are we feeling about? All this like, what do, you know anything where you act Craig's just not get you? I talked to someone close in the an atoll girly camp. Okay. And Todd is fine. Okay. They've been saying that for a long time now is tied. One hundred percent. I mean, he's coming off a Pro Bowl year, all pro type year had a lot of cares. And I think when you look at the injury history of tiger Lee having the knee injury in college. And then his first with he's been the league. Now, this is four years of just pound and pound and pound, and I think the coaching staff realizes that that they gotta go about this differently time. You know what I mean? Like, we talk about what what's what's the what's the new NBA word, they use now low, man. It is for rest gist, but you have to look at load management with your players, especially that guy. He's not just your you know, your five ten one eighty five running bang ordinary best not an ordinary. This guy is six foot three two two sixty three two hundred and thirty five pounds. Right. He's going to get hit. Right. And you need him to be excelling in December January and February. Correct. Whereas he had a great first three and a half four months of the season. And he didn't have enough down the stretch because of injuries, right? I think that's the same thing. He's gonna start to seize off as players and. You always feel great in the beginning of the year. And that body just brakes now like I watch myself. My one of my coaches would say. No matter. What you don't look the same regardless. Like you turn on the tape in September, you live, man. I'm running to the ball. And you turn on December. You like, whoa. That guy's not the same player, but everybody's going through there. And with Todd. He really needed a complimentary Beck. And so all these reports he's limping he's doing that. I mean tide is going to be timing did have the surgery man or not to surgery and go to your he right now. He's doing doing the Kobe. I'm watching videos. He's doing this ability training on that knee. I'm watching. I'm also you during the break, he's not limping he's just basically trying to get a strong as he's you know, he's going to fight. You know, I think arthritis obviously, remember he's had that need been surgically repaired before. So no matter what it's always going to act up on them. And just at a time where I saw the play where he got hit. And I said darn it's not good and it will similar to the LeBron injury. Where I don't think the Rams thought. It was going to linger as much bitter. I think it was the same thing with LeBron Agron injury. Okay. You'll be back in three to six and all of a sudden this may be a little bit longer than we thought because you just can't tell everybody's body heals differently and with Todd. Yeah, you can get one game where you're like. Are you feel good like Dallas next game? You look totally different. So to kinda cute me to kind of close it all up. Yes. I think he is perfectly fine. He's healthy. But it will be load management coming up to season surprise they draft the back to George you've been Craig's, right? No. I have not heard you've been been creek. And if you sit there and eat dinner for couple of hours when everybody, you know. Yeah. You don't see a lot of people. Go see TMZ when you walk out to. Unless you a rod and J lo who was sitting there one night when I was in went out the back told me the kitchen kitchen, I was like best cool. You know, then if you sit there for dinner, at least me, I get up, and I'm limping. Okay. I'm just stiff, you know. There's five restaurants. You don't go to. I was kinda great catch. Rigs. Dan tana's? What's the other one? I actually work across three from. Let's see Mr. Chow. Yeah. To madeo. Dale madeo? Yeah. Okay. I'm Dale and going to. Restaurants, like, Dr driving wave, okay? Okay. But Todd Todd let me he's handling and case in point like Jerry Goff is a quarterback the Los Angeles Rams in Los Angeles and get you don't hear nothing about right? Yeah. You know, this crazy crazy. It is. Well, now, let me get to this dream on things. I've been talking about forever. So dream on went on the shop. I told you you go on the shop things are going to happen. Okay. If you own anything shop, I've said this before you go on a shop as an NFL player you go on a show on one team, you leave the show. Tony bennett. Today all different teams than him. Although the players say if I want to trade it, I'm going NFL, right? I'm gonna NFL GM though. I don't want my players going, right? So here's what dream onset on the shop about. And it was basically about how LeBron has kind of led the way a lot of cases. But listen to how he talks about certain people who kind of tried to emulate it with a little bit of a twist he laid out such a blueprint for guys like myself and everybody like he laid the blueprint out. And I think so many people are frayed to follow it. So many people make a mistake trying to light mimic what Brian and self and mave and rich and Randy and all y'all have accomplice people make mistakes like. Trying to mimic it with a twist. It's like, yeah. We're going to do that that they did. But we're gonna add. This twist say are. Idea and I completely idea. As opposed to say a word. So why you're watching that the person who create who on Twitter because people on Twitter creative? Hell they put like side by side all the things that LeBron did I and then K D did that looks exactly like, okay. Like LeBron got the shop. Katie got the boardroom. You know, the Brian invested in some tech company. Katie gotta tech company, LeBron invented created entertainment arm, and Katie got an entertainment arm now LeBron goes to Miami, Katie goes to Golden State like they put all that stuff side by side. And it's like, oh, yeah. I think dream on is legitimately talking about Kevin Durant because he don't look. Let's be real. We talked about earlier. I don't even think those guys like each other anymore him and Durant. Right. Right. Well, I can see him throw in Shay it Louis shade. And remember, he's also a client of club sports. On the show. So we saw that come in by the way, who we'll we'll get the love from dre mind as he will be free agent coming up so not this season but the following year. So we'll see what the Golden State Warriors feel about him because he's gonna want that big Macs deal and use all of a sudden now, you gotta figure out how much of that luxury tax you willing to pay not can they pay. Yes. But it may be minus Kevin Durant. But that being said, though, when you when when you know last night, I think we forget that Kevin Durant and LeBron really good friends. You know what I mean? And they all came out member cameras caught him go going dinner out here. Lebron Katie my like, they're all in constant contact with each other. And we saw the Brandon Katie last night chumming it up a little bit. But. But I mean, LeBron has laid the blueprint. He was the guy that did it. I so no matter what guys do it behind. I mean after him it's going to look different. You know what I mean? So the the main focus is who it's Kevin Durant because who else can make decision like LeBron that carries that much weight. Wouldn't if Kevin Durant go somewhere else the shift of power in the NBA chase like we know when LeBron came over to the Lakers this year. It was like Kawai Jaanus issue. Turn James is yoga Aaron because the James harden, but the east this is your team this show this show baby now and she'll turn turn. It's also on the side note. I can't wait to criticize Janas because we've given them a pass along. Now. You know what I mean? Hey, you gotta win ready. You want now. Now for me is this the greatest form of flattery guessing, that's the bottom line. Draymond is definite shoney's shape. But still when you see somebody like LeBron James who's been so successful off the basketball court. Why wouldn't you copy it? Right. A great. If you have the the wherewithal to copy it, why wouldn't you guess? So to me, I met Acadia one bit. What he's saying is give LeBron is probably just saying I'm doing which is I before McDonald's. Dow the we got the big exactly they got to go to we got going. Whatever he was saying they wear plaid. We were solid. That's funny. A role. I got a row, but I got a few minutes. Okay. You got another one. What else we got? We got what's trending next. That including a big NFL signing. We'll tell you what's up with that. Byron Scott here. Kirk Morrison Saddana show being the data show here on ESPN LA Byron Scott Kurt Morrison with us today. So we allow stuff to catch up on here. Got some UCLA news got that coming up here. And just say in one of your teammates. Byron is also in what's trending, and it's not magic. It's. Oh, so we'll tell you what that's about a second. Let's get to what's hot. Let's do it. What's trending brought to us by friends of the dudes brewing company with five tasting rooms in southern California Torrance, Santa Monica, Santa Clarita, Huntington beach and Thousand Oaks store beer from the source. Learn more about the dudes brewing company by visiting their website. The dudes brew dot com. Let's start with your former teammate Byron Scott thirty five years ago today Kareem Abdul Jabbar broke the all time scoring record. What about that? I remember it was in Vegas. I remember he needed twenty one points. And we were like this is ironic that we're in Vegas needs twenty one point, right? I remember him catching it from magic magical making sure he's given that pass. You know, he's I'm about to Kareem owners record-breaking night Kareem was double teamed by Ricky green because it was against the Utah Jazz. Ricky left all of a sudden Corinne pivot shot about a fifteen foot hook shot over Mark Eaton? Bam win in game. Stop. You know, we all ran up and gave him the biggest hug his mom and dad was there. It was listen, I could tell you everything because I you know, I was there first of all thirty five years ago seems like yesterday, I remember Kareem shoot Ness. That's got hooked break. We'll chambers wreck. It was it was unbelievable film. David Stern was there. I'm looking at the right now in Greece. Mom behind him. Yes. Yeah. Palm was there. And you know, dad was ex policeman. So right. We wouldn't worry about anybody else. Run on the court. Sure, it's gonna get dealt with that they did. But it was one of those one of those nights that I'll never forget, why do you think the cap never gets included in these conversations about the goat have no idea because every time we talk about it. I include him because I still think he's the greatest of all time to have the shot that he had that hook shot was unstoppable. The Mouna games that he he had a streak gone for so long a double digit games. I can't remember what it was when it was broken. I think it was in Milwaukee when he didn't get ten points or more, but his door -bility the way he played for twenty years winning, you know, winning the NBA championship when we beat balls in thirty seven getting final MVP again in was averaging like thirty five and fifteen I I don't understand it. I really don't I think is a lot of it's a generational. You're a lot of these kids haven't seen Korean play. And they haven't probably seen tapes. But he was the most dominant player in our air back in the day. Then I've ever seen the cap do his people. You need to get them YouTube channel and make sure people, you know, what I'm still the greatest thing also to it was a quiet dominance. Yeah. He wasn't very he wasn't this Volk. Want a big personality. Magic right. Yeah. He just went about his business. It was quite dominance. And you think that if Kareem were able to come out in this climate this the millennial generation from high school college, I his career will be on his on a different path in zion's member. Yeah, he would have had a bigger following going in college UCLA did what he did a UCLA England MBA, it's he dominated high school. He wants ample shell college. He won three championships is just in his freshman year. They beat the varsity team who was ranked number one in the country. But Kareem said all the time he said, but they were bringing them to campus. Right. You know? And then a US when they allowed they wouldn't allow freshmen to play varsity, then he plays three straight years of Archie with three national titles. I mean, I mean what he did in his career from high school college to the pros is on president. Yeah. Why are we playing Vegas, by the way against the? Jess. I have no idea. I can't remember why I don't know why gay was played in biggest. But it was Iran. That the night that we had to play he needed twenty one points. It was amazing. That is funny. He kinda reminds me personality wise of Tim Duncan in a lot of way, right like and everyone's like, oh, this Burs are boring this that and the other and it was a lot because Dunkin's personalities or lack thereof. I guess in a lot of cases. And you know, Dunkin's the best power forward ever. So there is there is that part of the question. And I actually think Tim Duncan is a top six or seven player of all time to art. He doesn't get that kind of love. And I put them in that category. Tim Duncan was unbelievable. Yeah. And I think shed gave him the perfect name too. Big fundamental. Yeah. Yeah. For just believe, no doubt. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. Go to football, the Dallas Cowboys and Lawrence agree to a hundred and five million dollar deal. Demarcus Lawrence sixty five million guaranteed hundred five billion dollar deal. Now the guarantee correct me if I'm wrong Kirk that that seems lower than von Miller. Right. Yeah. Lowered and von Miller Lord mirror. Aaron Donald who got eighty. And we know Khalil Mack. Most ever for a player was at eighty five. This is a contract for democracy Lawrence. He's not an at class of Khalil Mack. And he's yeah, he's the tier below. But this is still a respectable contract for a guy that played last year on the franchise tag was wanna play on the franchise tag again this year and the Cowboys just want to take that hit. I mean, there are the pay the pay him twenty a belief twenty five million dollars on a second year of tag. So you know, what it is ripping out? We already got to pay you as read out, and I think he scheduled to make more money in his first year of a contract and any player defensively NFL history. So we know last year it was Khalil Mack who got forty one in his first year to obviously the contract gets a little bit less as the morning. So I think of rumor as the numbers start to come out you mentioned sixty five, but he may be getting close to I would say about forty five million in the first year the contract kudos to him money. Oh, man. It's your money now. Now, you got to go out and prove dago question is next though who's next? About next if it's a player who's the next Dallas cowboy oh is. Really act thirty million dollars. More cooper. You gotta pay which three of those look. Is not a thirty million dollar quarterback. So yeah, that's a good question. So curtain, you football guy, who is it, man. You can't do without a quarterback. That's true. That's what this game is that good. That's the hard part about the NFL. Is that is that good? Or is that what's the going rate or is the offense line and the and the running back that good around him. But where did you go out and get a quarterback because every year we get into the draft. And what we were found that fourth round. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But you watch them play you realize that he's suits best for what you do. And it was like a diamond in a rough kind of thing. Listen. Running back. It's pretty damn good. Marie in Dallas. Then you put your wide receiver with them and Amar. Yes, man. You gotta be great. Maybe they got. They got a lot of talent. They got a lot of talent for years to not. Not. Got more articulate. Got a gun corner. And Byron Jones, they gotta pay to George all pro. And pro he was a Pro Bowl of cheers. Let's go to UCLA the LA times reporting barring an eleventh hour resolution, it appears that Jamie Dixon's candidacy to become UCLA's next men's basketball coaches, ended Dixon's eight million dollar buyout from TCU has become an insurmountable sticking point for both sides, so UCLA no coach still under support. But didn't he he looks like, you know, Steve Laven, you know, the hair. He looks sounds like been Jalan. It's like the same kind of thing. I don't know what Jamie Dixon's going to bring the UCLA. It's not now not now. Now you. He's a California guy. But I think you know, you now you go to the backup options, and obviously the one in north Hollywood north Hollywood guy. Yeah. But you know, coming here. He's got a. It just felt you need more. Yeah. You know, what I mean like that job is a great job anymore. You know what? I mean. He's out his great as it used to be. But you still just because of that you need to make a splash. Right. Well, that's why I was in on them trying to lure Calipari. But clearly Kalahari was going to go out there. It right. And then he did easier to recruit a Kentucky. Oh, no doubt. But if he would've brought that to LA would've been great if you would have brought the one and done to LA on my let me ask you, do you just go and just say, I Rick Patino. Let's do it even with all the stuff that's around him. No, no, no, not yet. You gotta get some point where you just flat out, desperate. Yeah. And and I don't think they're at that point yet. Okay. And Tim temptations a little different now are Lewis. Yeah. Who boy a whole lot different? Yeah. Here in LA. But we do know he can coach and build the basketball team. No doubt about it. Is that we not saying anything about us coaching. Right. There's a hell of a coach the other stuff. Just the other stuff. Right. Yeah. Little to radioactives. Yeah. Okay. Enough. Next. We move onto sorry. I lost. My spothero quick here. We go. In the NBA tonight. The Celtics are playing the Indiana Pacers. Which by the way, I want before we get to the actual game. Hugh Brown and Mike Breen doing the game tonight together. That's rare treat for that'd be fun. Because UB you is one of those guys where and Byron I've told you this, and that's not this ain't this on anybody. I love all my co workers, Mark Jackson, and Jeff Van Gundy and everybody indoors, but every time you he's on. I am watching that game. Because even at eighty five years old that man is still teaching me some Huby is the best because he he gives it to you. Where you you can if you not looking at the game, it's like watching or listening to chick Hearn's visually almost watch. And see exactly what he would be talking about. He's that good at what he does. Yeah. It is amazing on the Celtics though. Byron. What are they are? They more likely to be a conference finals team or more likely to be a team that gets beat in. The first round see Kurtz editor earlier, they are jecklin and team. So either scenario I wouldn't be shocked to be honest with you if they got today's conference finals that wouldn't shock me one bit. If they lost the first round that wouldn't shock me one bit. They are jecklin high team this year they've been so up and down. I it's just to me crazy because of talent that they have. And they proved it last year that talent that they had last year got him to Eastern Conference finals, they have that same talent, plus kyri Irving plaza Gordon Hayward, which the two guys they didn't have last year. You know? So like, I said both of those scenarios are very possible with the when you're looking at this Boston Celtic team, I think this could be a match up in the first round when they play against Indiana. It could possibly be first matchup. I think Indiana needs the win a whole lot more than Boston. I think they. Need that homecourt advantage in the first round against a team? Like Boston in Boston needs against them and focus on the Lakers a lot. But when you look at the outlook for Boston come this summer. They've got cap space. They've got assets. And they've got draft picks. They don't they're not a free agent distance. Norm. I know Horford win, but he's not an a plus free agent. He's at Bryant. Plus, you got paid at that time like April. I mean when you start giving dollars, it becomes a destiny, but you think about whatever may happen to them this year. It's they're still going to be right back in it next year or they have to get better crazy about them though. Some teams they lose all we got a break. This thing up. They don't have to break it up. They can lose a piece but still gain to other piecemeal. Yeah. I it's gonna be fascinating. See Dwayne Wade didn't interview with Rachel Nichols today. And in that interview he revealed that he will try to use therapy to ease the void of retirement. He talked about openly that look he's he he loves playing the games, but the shoot arounds eventually get to you in the practices and at thirty seven years old like move on. But he knows that it's going to be hard that some nights. He's going to be watching and thinking he knows he can still contribute. Byron Kirk you guys play professional sports. How difficult is it to walk away? It's tough because game that you've been planning all your life. And you do have a unbelievable amount of love for the game. I'm speaking basketball wise, that you know, you have unbelievable amount of love for the game basketball. Is it has taken you to places that you never dreamed of it has given you things that you never magin, you know. So is it going to be hard? Just a flat out walkaway. Yeah. You can't go cold Turkey when you retire? It is difficult. My suggestion to de way because he has all these guys number in his book. Call Koby talk to him about it. And you know, what did he do to kind of, you know, take take some of that time, you know, the two that you have that that you know, that time that we have now when you don't play the game of Basque, but you had idle time what do you do at idle time? So I think he has talked to some of the guys like, you know, I wouldn't say cagey because he's close to magic. Magic entered him in on the business needs to talk to just get a hobby. I mean. Right. And s that's pretty. Yes. It's been playing say, you know, the golf course I'll play flip a whole lot of money because we MD wait. I won't get, you know, strokes plan loans play for hundred a whole he also has a new baby. So. That's a hill. That was a my thing. I think it's going to be a little easier for I think that he thinks I think first of all for me. I was retired the year before I retired mentally. I newton. You don't mean? It was just the way that the situation was and I remember it was the final cut day. And it was one of the most stressful days that I was a part of never wanna put my wife through that again. Because it was the first time my wife held me. It was like I cannot help you. Right. You know what I mean? Like, there's nothing that I can do for you. This is up to how they feel about you. Now may the team all that stuff contract guarantee, you know, year and all that. But mentally, I was like, okay. I don't wanna go through this again. So you mentally almost tired checked out beforehand. Right. So you start thinking about things what I'm gonna do next. And he's already been doing that. I think another thing goes back to what Mike sit family. He's got his boys or playing AAU basketball. He's about to be about to be still in the gym. But now working with his giants bit. He's going to be you got the little baby going. He's still going to be an ambassador for the league. And I would not be surprised at some point when his kids are either out of high school or maybe still he can be. I think he'll go into the front office in Miami. That he has said that that would be interesting to him that he'd like to be a part owner and go into the front office. So he has a luta one last thing he did say about his last game when Rachel asked him. He said that Kobe set a ridiculous bar for anywhere games. Like god. They're trying to get sixty. They don't kill yourself to wins. Rachel said, well, what are you going to do? And he says, well if we're out of the playoffs, maybe I'll try to go for four. I can't get to sixty. I don't think. So that's what's trending. Brought to us by friends of the dudes brewing company five tasting rooms in southern California on Santa Monica, Santa Clarita, Huntington beach in Thousand Oaks stored here from the source. Learn more about the dudes brewing company, visit their website at the dudes brew dot com. Coming up next Lonzo that family, man, lavar is still in charge. At least that's what the stories we'll tell you about what? And why in just a few moments and Byron? Thank you for hanging out pleasure. Yes, sir. Thank you Kirk sticking around preciado, it we got another forty some minutes to go here before we take you Lakers. Pre game in the Mt. Will fight with me about something. I'm sure yes. ESPN LA.

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Episode 78 | Covidiots

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Episode 78 | Covidiots

"Snow. That bestowed of new path flow podcast episode seventy eight. I thought it other thing. When we between now and hunting, we can find somebody to do intro force. Sneak laugh life coming in just talking. Yeah bigger I'll be wanting to talk and one went up but I can't ask you questions. What do you mean? I can't actually how you weeks on are you GonNa do is talk about the kids Go ahead. Ask me how. I got an answer for that today. As a week man brotzman, it's been since last Sunday Yemen has been straight. Know Real I. finished my set. So my shake clear up. To try I'M GONNA hit that stage man we going to try it out how long it I mean I don't know. Practicing time didn't see how long now needs to do A. Different approach. told me months ago Nikki wrote a five minute joint? Yeah. Yeah. I finished it. So. You just added to the five minute joint near. Yeah Yeah. Actually that is actually been scrapped. The first one I was working on, but I got another one but you know. So if a bombing, I'm never doing it again. NIGGA because I. Keep going. Smooth Nah I didn't what do you say that? Again. No. Love for like months down, he just never gave up. Imagine mom bombing for months and he was driving from Philly to New York or some shit imagine wasting your gas to bomb for months. I can't. I can't hear like a coach knows like. I can't remember what it was. It was it was. Pretty much saying I think do said the person told him do where he was saying is in light, it can be failed he like people realness and like. That that's what mayhem star going to talk about his fam-. Yeah she's people can relate. Because I think in the beginning like five remember correctly. I think he was just joking. Just get a just. Look at somebody in the crowd and just joking Goddamn. The Bat. Shit. was like negative eighteen nobody released that makes him relatable shit out now that's why he's like real like family families. Yeah Man. I. Don't give up her. For one was talking about family. A little bit relationship types. Other. Things like that. But. Already scared to death. I'm scared to death. So if I, I'm scared to death I. Just, either kill myself just not do it no more. I don't do the part if you kill yourself. How. Do you move then? Going to wear you. All right. Here. t-bone steak chief eggs, and welches great. Kids. As big he come come on. That sounds like a kid. What. Does. Die fucked blink okay. Now as we go all right, let's go come on come episode seventy eight new Pablo plaque associate new power flow. That's the only. Forget what we're. GonNa do for the hunt and they'll be here before you know it. You know I feel like it's fucking seventies is taken forever and they got pool in thinking seventy nine maybe we still on seventy, eight, seventy, eight, we agree exit. Seventies though longest seventy run soon. Do. You mean you WanNa talk about Tiktok I don't used to talk I'm thank you do either use tax while you find. Your thing. It's interesting though. Now. Okay. No I mean we talked about before like they still data should be interesting to is blocking. That that it that that's the problem. My best. That's what's going on. Oh I mean we ain't got to. Sodo Oracle bought it. Swinging band. No I think still some shit that they've got to work out. But. yes. He the judge hearts trump administration order banning we chat apps from APP stores But yeah, it's trump. He approved year. Oracle deal but I think the way they do she so fucked up right like you know trump's getting some of that money right? Why money determine work twenty billion yeah. Whatever it is for yes. I had no idea. See that makes it worth talking about. Stocks like. NIGGERS post article, Shit, and pretty much in order for trump to approve the deal he wanted to cut you can't he can't do that. The White House wanted to cut us on I. Don't know what it was like he wanted to cut it was like some money government come on Dobro businessman this trump got to cut now. Slow passive way handshake agreement like gas shit going on now maybe. Supposed to be able to word is by because he's supposed to be like you know he owned a whole bunch of shit before he became president he had to like get rid of that Shit. Were still owns. He just gave it to his kid and shit like this before eight years whatever you. Say he leaving the White House if you loosen see him I, can see him I mean. Like you know doing a reverse stange ground law negatives, it's Taking up there he grabbed AK. Looking out the window like Malcolm X. Yes. Window. They tried to make me leave I'm not going anywhere. Everybody wants me to leave. Is Comedy doubt. Because I like crazy selection, it's going to be Nice I. By settlers share with a fist fight for. This let them Nigga storrow hands. Mama. Sydney the AFC shit and I ain't GonNa lie this week. I talked to somebody and. You'll see. The AFC Video Samuel Instagram is morning last night. Yeah. Yes it is. I sent it to. The. My stance on. Voting. Has Wavered a little bit my angle live. From My. Vote known for him these. Yeah, I mean I guess you know that still the thing but. We gotta get McConnell. I heard. Yeah. I heard a really good argument that kind of convinced me that it would be important to get dude about of there. For the future of kids that are. Not The future for the key is now. Is just like you know. The. How he empowers like other things socially. By we don't, we really can't afford another four years of it to be honest. Like the the route chits going in. UC, UC. Do. As far as social shit goes, which really isn't important when it comes to like a president or whatever you shouldn't like. If you if you were president either you're going to speak on it, you know on at the on the right side of things don't speak on Oh you know dues coming out on the wrong side of like you know he's you know how's it been living with your refugees? You know shit like that he's been saying you know defending the do that shooting people in a Milwaukee or whatever, and like you know. Talking. About it being a war on police when police are the ones out here fucking people like that Shit this very dangerous. And Eighty could only get worse. You know what? I'm saying like or just remain the same which is bad. It's bad as far as is. So she scariest what like ninety saying that you get him out of office. Cops going to stop killing people, racism warnings. There's no more nothing like that but. This is enabling some some bad people. It's Kinda for me like you look at it that way it's like fuck man yeah. You come from the highest order that shit going on as okay. You see what I'm saying now I got you but I mean it's still don't mean I'm GONNA go out vote I just I don't know. Both clowns, man I'm. The I'd just really wanted to get Mitch now he sucks. Mrs. Trump socks to they both me they horrib- it's horrible people but and speaking of enabling. Just WanNa go ahead and get into these anti NASCAR's who stormed in what looks to be a target in Florida with no mass and make America. Great again, t shirts and shit. On me let me play the clip huddle. Core. took off your mask look at the kids. So budget. Cove Idiots Cove Idiots. This is at night like attempted murder. Honestly, like that was the first thing I thought what else I know where they go to college the cops on them niggers when should have with none happen? Wouldn't even arrested now there was. Not Going to resist arrest. They'll say fuck you meanwhile, there was a video of somebody in San Francisco. This is this was back in April. Nicotine cops jumped on the bus, beat the shit out of a negative they'd have mask on. Li. Like out I could do just give him a mask. Say. I mean I weren't married like every other month for those but. I'll get well I. I just don't get it. I don't get. Wine and complain about wearing a mask inside a building like you're not going to be in the building day they choose they choose and like if they if they job required enormous, just quit they job more likely. Shrunken. Stupid. They've I'll tell you these people they enabled again like they. Won't that they? They they want that. Power to say, no, you can't make me do anything. This is America, the land of the free you know what I'm saying so that that's the that's the way these well-focused thank. chained. Okay. All right. But you strudel. Gulliver this this shit I was I was thinking about this earlier. This week is watching this video. You know what my fuckers? I can't be too mad at them for you know You know. Not really caring about by people dying by the hands of the police and shit like that because I mean equally they want to die to you know what I'm saying. So it's just it's they. It's a level. Playing, field. EQUALLY THEY WANNA. Yeah. Now, they want to die to are. NIGGA. Storm aspects with no mask. We see Rudy Gobert and they are negative was touch a couple of microphones died and it was down. To Take it to the other side, they can we see close for the black people? And they don't none of them have mascow Knicks. Happy Dazzled mask on. fucking. Workers Do Knicks in the Club don't. Seem videos lately I guess you might be. I. Open like back in April but. Is Seen on lately I don't know it'd be mclovin. Oh, I take it back because. You Vegas Nigger. But. She was definitely. A group negative with zero masks. Of the same color. So what I'm saying. They I don't see I mean it's stupid at him. Just fucking WANNA be seen. Let us know Matt's look at him. The kids that was A. Video of people was like note, them kids being raised to be some fucking racist to and idiots. And idiots like they're just just like they raise them to be dumb lie I. DON'T I feel bad for them because they don't really have no fucking choice. This is. What they grow into day and even they can always switch i. we don't seem videos where. Some of the millennial KIA's. Alight to FROGGER A. White turn on a light turn on yeah. Eli Going in on the parents and grandparents about racism issue. Stupidest fault. Is Damage Fuck The Videos descru- in the fucking Like if I was like, I mean, you got this video going viral i. what if you of your kids Teachers Sita's video assumption you get your kids marching which I guess is a protest protest and wearing a mask and target. Right, and all these focus has got they falls out. Films News. Looking Man Ray. Spin on the. See. Just talking. Just, discuss. I'm on slept in. Big. Miss Coming added. AAA. Crazy people I try. Even. Remember. 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So I look on our site they had great reviews, nothing hands out related insight. After. Looking over their website Agadir, mccarter mom size, the fill the facilities. Like Sauna and hot tub came in the price of massage. Still girl on the phone who took my name s how long of a massage that I want I, sit an hour and this she said a word to me that I didn't quite hear understand but I just agree to it turns out that whereas I said Louis. Turned out there. Let's say tantric tantric and that was an and that was the the booking none. God. He's I hate really how do you think is talk that fuck? So I drove all the way down to the SPA walked their side to be greeted by an absolutely gorgeous girl wearing nothing. Says Nelson. Yes. NUDIST NATURAL SPA. Says this was a natural spa that didn't faze me. She confirmed my details it showed me around. And to the room, we have on the side you. Look. Quite nice to be honest candlelit. Very relaxing. She asked me to get undressed go shower. She'll be with me when I'm done. I happily got my birthday suit. Walk through the building a shower back to my room and she came back about five minutes later. I lay down my stomach on the man on the floor. And the massage begins. All normal massage to begin with. Felt. Really good. Does she started going. She started going up my inner time. And pretty much massage the bit. Between my ass on boss wold with the occasional. Geno ball grip. Just, interrupt. Grey. Goose Real Quick Eight. Hey, if you ever never mind. This also felt good. So I didn't want sport a mood or say anything tim more minutes in s she's rubbing coconut oil. And she's rubbing her coconut oil. Cupboard Be Cup titties on my bag. Oh. My God at least titties with a D. I. CNN team Black Man. I was having a td bag massage. Massage this again also felt quite nice guy. But at this point I knew this wasn't a normal side. So halfway through she asked me to turn over. I, have a hard on at this point obviously with other ball until you play had to turn over. They had no choice. She didn't seem to mind. So neither do that. So the frost. Massage. Again, started normal relaxing stuff for fifteen minutes. Saw Somebody will in this way. Well, back comes the titties, all of my stomach and chest nipple the nipple action show. Yes. She Man rattles me with our ask my face. Off Hose. Staring into. Minus. Cigars coconut oil and I just saw her soak my dig in it. WHOA. What were you can already picture what came next me. Ask. About ten Minnesota Jackie, I would have came earlier but I was super used as to what the fuck actually pay for, and if this was meant to be a part of it. So all in are pretty good massage, but it was a pretty expensive hand job. This was also my first size experience in general by the way. Damn never a this next massage going to be so trashed to him no matter how far it is. He's going so dumb come home. They had a asshole and and and vagina in his face while he was getting the handy. Mexico they'll get a massage and they go elbow and he goes back. He might what the? Yeah, IT'LL BE A. Guy. Said some downplayed handy's the. Confession that we had when do say that his wife had no idea. Remember that one. 'cause we're doing he was getting the handy at the massage probably. Yeah. You say you've been doing it for like forty years. Yeah. was like how say Handy's was trashed but I? Was Walking pseudo. No No. Just the handy. But this right. Here's this. This is next. To he was. slither and do like a snake Robin Hood on his ASS and ship Nashi turns you never fucking trick on news. She was had there was nipple the nipple. Somehow. I. Ask PUSSIES in his face like sixty, nine position all. She was spin his way they slippery from the coconut Earth slidell overdue down like the dance spun around like Michael Jackson again the member time video. Remember S Neko Alice in Wonderland. In the tree never seeing how man she was all overdue. Jesus Christ what's the name of that place? said it was an town two hours away from where he was. Damn. I knew what he was getting himself into. WHO GOES TO HOURS OUT FOR MASSAGE He had a reason yelp reviews or something. That's nuts man. We'll get you a ninety nine. As a wedding gift will get you a new room. I'm good. You know new massage now is stories different stories. said, he wasn't expecting it and then you just winner to get a massage colluded likes being nude he's a nudist so. You think I'm pretty sure. B.'s mice be sound a little big for his own office racist or not. There raises to say. Beast they do sound a little big I've been I've been in Asia. I had the biggest cities not landed in Japan. The big cities. I mean, they say Thailand's Lit. I mean I'm sure be dependent you though you would hate it I'm sure Dr Come. Fuck Williams? Images. They had pitchers. Did Yup seen purchase. Some Cambodian okay. D- I seen I. Don't think it's some. Asian. Japan. Where you went to were China and Japan. Everybody looked the same, but they like the freaky culture to. Like Asian Culture Sex and they just polite now like I'm talking about sex like open like all this shit they like. Yeah. They. They chained up you need. Over. Put like any in frowned upon in Asia they with that. They would the action. Some enemies crazy to see one little anime a clip. Oh, girl like she jumped in. She was like a mile in there and a lightning bolt shot out of her vagina shocked Nagin killing. It sounds. I don't know why he was watching it but that sounds. Choose no one on that. Shouldn't hey keeping it in Asia should I think Lawson was very bad from the Chinese league? was. The Chinese women have cakes similar to you just say I. Was Free. You just said they was free with it out there listening again banned from the League for San. Antonio had cakes. I don't know that's a league I don't know. The League you can't talk about Chinese when he was over, you would be paying for saying that the bees is kinda big for patties. Needs is Iraq you in your fucking? Your fucking ty Lawson be sitting right next. Play back home. Got Deported. From China for getting sent back. Tie. Ex NBA player this Nigga get. You, a Guy A. Ban from the CBA, which I'm is yeah. The Chinese Basketball Association after making an inappropriate instrument post. On his instagram story. He posted Chinese woman cakes on the low my head to switch on my stand soon L. O. L.. And in the next door, he had a pitch job Chinese girl Ben Dove Only I guess they in Strip clubs some. But he's getting lap dances what it looks like and you know she's now on a she got arms. She got her hands touching the floor as bent over, and he's he's having to ask you know film initiative in Maryland selling. Shit look for. Real. The pink. Why Lighting? The pitches guiding band? 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Like you know you know the INS and outs the rights and wrongs shit to do for. Make, sense. Yeah. Me Around it long enough. You know it is. I got. I, got a funny story. I say Larry. Shortly. For. It is we ran through Lsu that quitting. Well Nuggets workweek. Man, we'll just talk about him. We can talk about it on the. Talk about what did I say that? I mean say if I do I mean because I'm not. Teams facing each other right now, filming Wisconsin's finals play tonight at eight o'clock. Seven. Seven, I believe I'll wait on matters young here's to mine anyway when. The results had already happened. Yeah. The game wins and the books. I I'm not hearing chace cake man. GET THEY ASS kicked. Did. He finish the you cut it on A real fan you. Watch my team just to the end wants to get held up by shirts NIGGA and punched in I. CAME BACK FROM A. No No. When I turn that shit off Nigga, we was dead. Trust me now. I think I. Think I gave it to less than half a third quarter I waited to the bottom of the third I was not. He's dead they. What about? What? About the the clippers? I lose yet I mean still getting roasted somebody photoshop shot it was real somebody photoshop the billboard La and they said we were up three one. Is Paul George. Like, facing the other way, but it's photos and they said it was in Inglewood, but it was another story ready is is. Is, is part of Photoshop. Let me. Let me let me speak on. This is just this is just No disrespect to to use Dijk to to anybody who is. A fan of individual players. WHO's loyal to fans of individual players I understand it to an extent I understand that the league especially the NBA changes made. Every season you know what I'm saying. So it's hard to be dedicated to a team by was NATO's was like When the nuggets made it to the to the to the Western Conference Finals Nichols was congratulating me. You know what? I'm saying like Whoa you know it really pays off to be an I'm just like. It's weird to me because. But I understand it but I I just I just think it's weird to me that I'm the eyeball out for being a fan of a team. They became a of the nuggets went back in the mellow days is it wasn't that long ago when I was when I became a fan. But with mellow left I was like fuck it. You know here I am I'm not about to just be out here just switching teams. You know. So with that being said, you know what I'm saying like, Nigga. The Nuggets Douglas is where he had off of. You know just the building of franchise. The nuggets ain't about to get no real deal all stars, and we got Paul Millsap when you know he was. He wasn't who he was when he was making all star teams shit. Like just is what it is. We got him just to be the veteran. You know a around a bunch of young guys so. You know. It's still too for the most part that it's a organically built team. You know what? I'm saying we not we not supposed to be where we are. AM I. In my opinion, the magazine they've exceeded my expectations. So I'm not here to trash talk talk talk bad about you know another team save. Three on the championship list though. Some people? they put a ranking number three on some of them lists as championship winners. Lakers wouldn't even in Safa. Right now. You can go on provider. If you really, you really think this is going win. I don't know how. This is what it is for anybody who's listening right now definitely rap but anybody who's listening right now the nuggets are plus one thousand to win. A championship. So out of the fourteenth that's left the Douglas Plus One thousand in Boston plus one. What does that one dollar bet one dollar thousand now? If you bet one dollar you NTN you bet ten dollars you win hunt you bet one hundred dollars thousand. Okay. Yeah. So if you if you really, if you really truly believe that anything can happen and another half proved anything can happen they have. But I I definitely have. This is not the Clippers Lebron. motherfucker manufactured. Teams. Okay, so I am going to talk with the. Man I thought. Manufacturer built ask fucking teams same thing. Donor Com, Denver Doorbell, and that's fine I'm I'm cooling coil. I didn't want to go to Toronto it worked out for them then they won a championship nobody. I WANNA. Come to Denver Lebron. Glad when he went to Toronto in a trade, that's what I'm saying got plenty of pieces Yucca trae to bring somebody in and try to win the show on. That way I. News is running from the grind like my Nigga Dame said Dame GonNa die in Portland to his dangle dying Portland Ring listening and respect it I mean he said he's I mean he will get his Jersey retired uncertainty. He said he wanted he's what was what? He was focused on as being the greatest blazer ever. That's fine. Something is going to be the greatest player. You won't be the greatest nugget ever. Be My guess. But look at what they ain't nobody gonNA be talking about you in twenty years now man. You don't know that you don't know that I-. Cagey, never left fucking. The timberwolves nobody will talk about Cagey. He was trying to be loyal to would you be lawyer for you can go fuck about you Nigga that I own from a business standpoint on understanding. Don. But what I can't allow can't allow. Is Naggus, whose fans of manufactured teams whose fans a player who's out here just running and teaming up with any fucking body to go to winnow as best they fucking I can't. I can't respect it though Fan Robin. The Bronco Fan I'm a Laker fan now. Get that you just can't talk trash to a team that to a team that grind to get what at the Lakers ain't grand. Don't Piss me off I. Almost got married Smith and we know the last time they went to the playoffs is twenty twelve, right? Alamos. Got Magic Man fucking grind Lebron a healthy a healthy Lebron James is making it to the playoffs on any fucking team. In the League the head a team full of fucking young because last year and he got hurt they wouldn't want to the play. A healthy Lebron, that's a to ops on any fucking put Lebron. Who's the worst seen as grind? WHO's worse? What's the worst team in the League? Is Having been to the playoffs twenty thousand twelve. That's not fucking grind you acquire Lebron James and he does what the Fuck Lebron James does not only that you bring on Clutch Sports Anthony. Davis. And you do this you get the results you get these exact results. Yes. Clippers claim to why they lose the clippers did everybody had to win the title they bought into all Jordan? Couldn't get there because expanded a yoke is nuts too heavy Jamal? Mary's nuts was way too heavy NIGGA. Blasted on the clippers and shot the niggers back to La. I can't hear the drops on what the folks no one so it, but it's a window drops. I thought you hit A. Button to drop my bag. No. That's why the clippers couldn't do it. But with that being said though. The nuggets is that they best when they down when they down Nigga Down Oh one, negative the fifth quarter start tonight makers guy blasted by twelve points. They was worse than that when I went to sleep. So it'd make as made it a little bit of a combat but NBA matchups. You'll have nobody match up against eighty Lebron James Yo couple hang lot yoke is like a punk out there with our. The White House Man. Really bad just the difference between size and like that's the difference with the Lakers they built to play any Stalla basketball. The Clippers was built in eighteen to just grab niggers. Whoever the Lakers had when it came out that the Lakers was interested. Oh. Let's go get them and Lakers. Oh let's get Marcus Morris. Coups. Maleski fucking of. Can't even gave up. They gave up the shooting guard, the defensive nigger and Anna first round pick for Marcus Morris who's probably GONNA be gone. This year is about the he's a free agent. Lakers. It'd be don't. Have Be. Here when the title to heat, you'll make it up the second round for sure. He'll win title for sure as quiet loses he talking about SP basketball IQ in chemistry and Nicotine Smart. SMART, nigger you choose to go there. But he's he's all he wanted to play for the clippers that he. Give a fuck. Planning Without Makia sneakers they said the reports came out and say that the players don't even WanNa talk to do because they don't know how to talk to do because he don't talk. Leader Mark with a negative he's supposed to be the leader of the team in the negative talk choir man come to the nuggets mind boy company. He really might be hey, but look. How getting coming back to the court at the next year, he's a free. I don't think he's going back to the clippers. The. Nugget uniform. Don't put no fair. Your Heart Nigga should've just fucked and sucked it up and stayed with San Antonio. He should've fucking does what he should be surrounded by smart people. But. If you, I. Know You hate kawais perfect compared to Lebron. I know you do you gotTa keep it a you gotta keep it one hundred percent honest with yourself. The NIGGA left San Antonio for good reason. The interested team doctors they wanted to come out there and. Really really is he really left because Tony Parker came out and said. I mean. Tony Magassa, tore my. Finally. By compared to Lebron Nah I'm saying what he was saying don't Nigga I ruptured my quiet last year and I'm out here playing you turned your ankle. You set out the whole season. With, the folks going on Brooke I mean low management Man Lebron to the now, and then after the game he talked about, he shouldn't have said album games that was the deal. That's what you wanted. That was the reason why you picked the team to go. You can manage all you want them to like us nickel we got Brown ad. I'm sorry to me for somebody who I don't mind. Good ass whooping just. Is Cowardice me were. Teaming up Kawhi PG Lebron AD Kyri Katie Lebron was able to trade teaming up Nigga didn't try try to young players has the as what they wanted to do. That's that was the Ingo. If he didn't at the trade inhabit, he was going to sign that and Gm You could lose her and then losing your job because you. Don't do me I'm listening I'm not a GM out. I'm not looking at it from that standpoint I'm looking at it from the standpoint of competitiveness and they don't care to compete and I get it from a business aspect and he wanted to join be friends. Do you think that's cool? That's cool. You know. For me for me how how it looks right now. Championship body. So pleased him Jordan for me right now have Scottie Pippen I'll come. He did. One of those years he didn't he's never won a title without Scottie Pippen. Nigger. Oh My god you sound fucking nuts. I'm not miss out the politics. fucking nuts star winning until Scotty showed so anyway. I just said, I, didn't fucking know so anyway. For me. First of all. Draft. Scottie Pippen That's the only. That's the only thing I'm saying about my only thing that I'm saying isn't it goes is making moves and they run into how many dame said running from hall of famers are found outside the top timber. How many how famous are found outside the top I'm not I don't know what the first kind of argument you trying to make me all I'm talking about is. A Hall of Famer took draft somebody, the teams that are built teams that are fun it's all said and done and for. The team. As a free agent nugget is quite possibly the second best team in the League quite possibly the fourth, the best team in the League according to how the play offs fail I'm cool with that. and Ain't. Trash. IOS Trust. She'll got a bunch of good young players under was trash. They got a bunch of good young players. The hawks is going to be good in about two or three years. They've been trash and then got some good players birth as how it works. The warriors was trashed and they got a whole bunch of good players and Katie. Are they would they wanted to? Pursue. Works. the point in the Lakers was trash in any Lebron come. Because they don't know what the first. Family. Drafted fucking Lonzo magic. Lonzo ball wouldn't from la he would've never got drafted from the Lakers. Magic. Drafted at Nigga because he was from La. Bro He was scared of his fucking Daddy. Jason Tatum. The sixers should tatum. was looking trash to dominate I ain't ally. He's been trashed. The series won last night. But. Yeah You try us you wanna you see the sexes trust the process tank, get these draft picks. And get you players. You can build it that way. Now, some things rather not take. The teams, it's the playoffs with the players the put the players. These want to play with each other like if eighty and Brian sided that they wanted to go to. fucking. Vancouver and play for the grizzlies they will do that. You know what? I'm saying they will. It's not the play like I. I guarantee you Ole Depot will be in the Heat Jersey soon. I guarantee that. Well. I heard about the heat but he inherited the Lakers that's who I've heard linked to do. He will be a heat Jersey so I don't know how under saving her money for Janas. Has. A saying going. there. He'll be he shouldn't. You still got Lebron open to try to pursue Jaanus if he's I mean he's. The Best Young player in the League. Is Pretty much signed sealed delivered to Golden State which is also bid shit but these just want to pay. Catholics they're going to trade and they would they can they. They've tried to. fucking. The Bucks is GonNa. Take a pig for Jaanus? No if you honest wants to go and. TOLD HIM HE'S COMING BACK Okay, he's not going to know where the team and he's not demanding the trade so. All right he's is all these negative hose. FUCKING Bradley bills on every team, but the nuggets they all hosed in Portland. Swain. Youngest sweat and then what if we don't do? You know what to? Do to be honest. Blast again today. Okay. Sure Bet by ten plus thousand. You Ain't got two thousand a bit who. You. THOUSAND DOTS OUR PODCAST. Pitches. You got a cold the show. Now. Closer. They got seventy eight. Dale. Dancer. Flow.

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NBA Draft, Trade rumors, Zion, Flacco fuss, Blazers as underdogs?

Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock

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NBA Draft, Trade rumors, Zion, Flacco fuss, Blazers as underdogs?

"All right. I'm Jason lot. That's Marcellus Wiley that do Esser other great suit. My man I want to speak for yourself. The most fairly show. It's more coming up. We'll tell you people are seriously underestimating the trailblazers against Golden State. We start today with the NBA draft Zion Williamson wishes he could return to do. So do I if dumbest thing in basketball, the biggest obstacle preventing the NBA from gaining ground on the NFL is the association's failure to figure out a way to keep its youngest talent in college for three or four years. The one done rule is bad business for the NBA and the college game letting kids go straight from high school to the Lee is even worse business no-one dislikes NCW amateurs more than me my desire to see future Zion. Stay in school has nothing to do with keeping amateurism in place, my desire to see the NBA financially reward. It's best prospects to stay in college for multiple years. I want more zion's prospects who arrive in the NBA already ratings driving hope-inspiring TV stars tonight. The whole does most compelling draft lottery since the two thousand and three LeBron James sweepstake, the NBA draft used to be a big deal every year before kids skip school altogether. And now just spend one year in college building the brand Zion is the rare prospect excited enough to generate three years of hype in one season at Duke, and even he'd prefer another year in school. I mean this hundred for sale in our savers. If I could come back for a second year and play I would be and Duke was. It was a dream. Come true. This year my life. This is not reality. We live. The NBA needs to change that reality you grow better players in college. It's a superior training ground than the end of an MBA bench Geely. It's no coincidence that Steph curry Damian, Lillard, CJ McCollum and Klay Thompson all spin at least three years in college. College is where you learn how to compete how to put the teen goals ahead of individual goals. Like NFL players NBA players should be developed in college the guys selected at the top of the NFL draft are expected to come in and help with team win right away. There isn't one rookie plane for the Trail Blazers warriors raptors or bucks, Portland's that Collins is the loan twenty one year old who get any minister in the conference finals there these nineteen and twenty year old babies the NBA allow into their league have absolutely zero to do with winning. It's a waste of money. It would be smarter to give trae young the Atlanta rookie a two million dollar. Check. On this year's draft night for staying in college an extra year you realize before this past season. The only time the missed the playoffs was when he was a teenager learning. The pro game creating more zions should be the NBA goal not being fair to a handful of kids who can score meaningless buckets while finishing puberty. All right. Joined the desk now is NBA champion and non college player. Stephen Jackson and Yahoo sports NBA insider, Chris aides are myself. Would would prospects plane longer in college improve the NBA? For meanness a hundred percent there. Fuck good with. I would say no the year was the coup car because. Nobody forcing your LeBron. He'll want to get them book is to college for free another year. It's amazing that these guys get caught up to the noise, and they listened to to the point where they actually got a sale something to the noise when in reality this is for you Zion. This was your best year ever. You know, why? Because it was your last great year. Guess what? Next year is going to be even better, brother. You're gonna get that check. You'll get that opportunity and you because you're gonna go to a sorry team is gonna get an opportunity to go out there and make it even greater year. So why limit yourself in this capacity? I'm still going to class. But what I went to either. These smart people don't even go to class extra times. I believe Zahn. You don't owe. But get to my point what should the NBA header if the kids stayed longer and call it trying to with them jokes now. Hale. No. Even go the none in dawn's because we know that that list LeBron K, Kevin Garnett Kobe, Tracy McGrady John champs. He was back. This talk about the one and keep it apples to apples Zion. And there's a little full screen here to support this. Now, the Kevin Durant Serik roses carry urban. I picked their first receivers to make match up to what they would have given the collegiate level versus what they gave twenty five twenty twenty twenty one guys hit the ground running. And it's not an anomaly to see a guy hit the ground running those numbers support that and even more. So to my point you can't get the toothpaste back in the to the branding is out in terms of when you see a roster in college and his juniors and seniors first thing you think about is what on ain't good enough to go pro yet. So now, you're going to try to rebrand the upperclassmen it's cleats level. You can't do it. Take you to the pros and get that money. Yeah. I didn't realize coast K was kicked out of school. I'd say shoop on the one hundred before I go any further. What makes you believe that he truly meant what he said, he please. There's no other reason to say why does. No, there's no there's no upside to saying that he truly believes like a lot of guys look man, the lack of responsibility for a lot of people is the key to happiness and having a job is responsibility. Played in college having fun plan thirty thirty five games year. That's that's that's a cake life or guy like Zion. If you plan to do or somebody's major colleges, it can be fun may not be as financially rewarding. But it can be. I think it's all talking points in the recruiting points for. Going there to stay and all that. But please. Nobody's forcing you. Could. You could go back. Go back. Look, I'll say this. We talked about. Yes, it will improve the value of the NBA. It would it would if you're allowing guys to come in stay three years of college two-three because they will be more developed, but look, I'm a firm believer. I know most people would agree with me colleges. If everybody I firmly believe that I believe we ever supreme skill should be allowed to get at boys over there. That's over our we'll get there. But no. But usually go back to the Patrick Ewing days Charles blocking those guys stay I get it. But also what we have to understand their the chances of injury occurring that can I can occur causing you not able to reap your full financial benefits. That is that is that is something they have to weigh considerably. Listen. I I agree with that. I'm for the NBA financially compensating guys because I think it's better than having guys. Trae young put up a bunch of meaningless buckets in Atlanta, this she ain't contributed nobody winning nothing. And none of these young guys really are the game would be better. If the players again, I'm not talking about what's right or wrong. I've seen saying with the game be better if they were trained up in college and sent to the NBA as men where he was saying the same thing about trae as you're saying about Ben Simmons when he wanted I respect, but you're not saying the same thing had set out his rookie year for one. He's still wanted. Brooke a year, and it was meaningless it was so same thing trae. So if you if you going to be on the team play your best, and if you get individual, that's only you but to ask you a question, I feel like I would rather come out in the NBA and go out house going struggle. Then have to sit there and make a hop Poseidon video to bring make the biggest thing like, I enjoy communists. I I would rather just go straight to the NBA. Now like, you said some people may con- it some people's not I'm I wasn't made for college. And I wish I would've went to college to be honest because the cards I signed with end up winning NASA championship my freshman year. And I and I ended up I was strong enough to go to overseas and bounce around to get back to the NBA. Everybody's. Not built like that. So it depends on the person to me stat. Here's what I just wanted to come out of your player mindset. And just pretend you're the owner of an NBA team. You just want the value of your Lee to go up. Would you not admit the game was better served by more experienced players coming into the NBA a lot of these young guys just sucking minutes. They they not really contributing to the overall health of the game until these guys get to be twenty one twenty two twenty three years old. If a scout goes and picks a player, that's not ready. That's on the scout. You can't blame the kid for taking opportunity kids are drafted off potential. Not if they were drafted off who can help us win next year a lot of these other than Zion. A lot of these guys will be going allot lower in the draft. Yeah. But you know, I always go back to the AT. Oh, if you if you can go to war at eighteen he's able to put RAFI family. They. You know, what's weird though, looking at the list of the people that you're using the support your argument when we talk about Steph, and clay Lillard and McCollum only Lillard hit the ground running. And there's a close version to what he is. Now, if you look at Steph, it took them two year for clay year four you talk about CJ McCullough gear three none of those guys, and they stayed in college. And then they came in NBA, and it's a different world. It's a different level. So to stay in college. You still got to make the adjustment. You still gotta get up to the next level. You think about all the people trying to get in the NBA that window a small you get hurt or anything can happen guys. Trying to take his day. Let's move onto this. I believe Zion LIAM's is a can't miss prospect. I think he's in the same boat, not quite LeBron. But in that same boat as LeBron James, do you feel zion's can't miss? Now, LeBron once you say LeBron I'm off like I'm in a different conversation. 'cause LeBron is top five. If you're hater. He's top three. Probably if you really looking at basketball and giving it really his proper value. You can be great. You could be amazing. You can be excellent. You could be Anthony Davis is Anthony Davis top fifty all time. Some would say, no, we'll say maybe Surjit to that place. But the point is a perennial all-star is still not LeBron the Browns another echelon in the future hall of famers. He's in that private room that most can't get into. So to say he's going to be like LeBron so many lead and tells the patient is the same height, then -ticipant, but you talking about in the Bronx where he has finished at when the Brian came into the league everybody was like, oh my God. He's going right. He's gonna take you don't have that saying, I don't I don't even know he's a finesse bully ball player. He doesn't play bully ball. But he has the ability to, but he's a finesse style player. I don't see Roark. I manned polished. He does he's. He's I on as the face of the NBA over the next. No, you still got Katie you got Steph curry, you got a lot of guys about immediately. But I'm talking about when I say Cam media star. But immediately he's going to be a star. But I'm saying you don't think five years from now he's going to be the top player in the league and the face of league. I don't why not I just feel like. His talent is already to the point where he's almost recess peak. He can learn how to shoot and he can lose some weight. But as far as anything else, he's athlete, and I've seen a lot of guys that come in the game that can jump real explosive if they don't add onto their game. They stay the same their whole career. When athlete loses athleticism. He really doesn't have anything to his game. So if you can ask them stuff, maybe, but as of now, I don't see I wouldn't I wouldn't meet personally, I wouldn't call him a can't miss prospect. I will call him a pass over prospect at the number one because I think whoev- whoever passes if they pass all him at number one. Then that owner that GM is going to be ridiculed for life of this guy ends up turning out to be. Yeah. You've gotta draft them just from that. Like, even if you waffling like John Miranda had him on my podcast last week. Even if you're waffling between those two you gotta go with Zion. Just because you know, people like yourself and everybody else believe he's going to be the next libra. I don't know. I don't know to me. I knew the Brown was going to be a star. I did. I don't know. What view I know he has to potential. I knew he has the tools it's something we've never seen before. But I'm not so bad same. I'm not sold. He's going to be a squirrel up and help me out with this in. How did you feel about light? And I know this is years ago when you were just a baby or maybe not even alive when Charles Barkley came into the league, I was three did you not think he was going to be? I wanna say, okay. Maybe the guy won't be LeBron or Jordan. But you telling me you don't feel comfortable. This is going to be as good as Charles Barkley like this is not going to be the number one draft pick. And we're looking at it. And like all the candy. There's not going to be that. We understand you're going to be a star. But we don't know how you gonna go. You know, why I think there's two forces that have happened in. Now, then happened when bark you came out Barclay if you look at roster from number six to nine that played in MBA, Dan, they weren't the same talent level is what you see right now the athleticism. It was a different talented in. So a guy like bark we can come out there and bully his way because it wasn't the most talented guys collectively athletic more now shoot. Okay. He's home. Sad sued them. Yeah. You know bark is amazing all levels, but it was an easier situation to walk into Turgeon athleticism playing that card you play that car. Now, you in a with a lot of people now get because I watched Andrew Wiggins is going around right now with his mix tape from high school and social media pressure with the likes and clicks. And how big you are in that presence has really allow people to start saying people are greater than they are. Lebron even have social media influence when he came out. It was just like. He was on the cover sl right now. If you wanna come on Instagram, look like so he's coming in with a different presence and pressure that I think is kind of hyping them up a little more. Maybe he can live. I just see a body. That's going to get better. I believe the guy's gonna get in better shape. I believe his first step for guy. His size is amazing. I think he puts it on the floor better than people give him credit for. I think he plays with an energy and a ferociousness in a joy and a passion that's going to overwhelm the NBA. I see a better Charles Barkley. But but again, I I may be wrong y'all see something different. We're the only thing that I want to see is in college. He was able to jump over and over Powell everybody, you won't be able to do that every night in the NBA guys. Just as just as strong as he won't be able to do that. Now where he died when guys compete in knocking down you got to see all this stuff as a young guy. We we can say he's gonna lose weight. He's gonna get into all that because he's going to be an NBA system. But. When you get knocked down. He's going to get up the first time, you miss four or five sides is he gonna shoot again, you're gonna be we got to see him grow. I the hype is their hype is there when you compare to LeBron Kevin Durant coming into the hype is there, but that's what I can relate to because I remember LeBron, Katie. But you knew they were going to come in. And you knew that I don't know that like, I don't know that was I don't go on some people look. I look his physical makeup. He's six really six six. I'll say that. Yeah. He really about six six what position? I know. We're we're in a position this game right now. But there's a lot of question marks more with him than we have with Katie LeBron guys who came into the league. That's it. I'm not saying I don't know what he's going to be by just know that there's too much pressure placed on that pick to pass on it number one. We know he's going to be a point God like God. What do you say that Stephen? Oh you around. Jack, Chris aides or back do that. I'm now for. Let's move to the Western Conference finals where the warriors will be without Kevin Durant for game one nine against the blazers. But Las Vegas doesn't seem to care with Steph and company opening at seven and a half point favorites over Portland, obviously, we know what even a short handed warriors team is capable of. But Portland has been a popular darkhorse this season and just pulled off a clutch winning game seven on the road. I think this line is ridiculous. Yeah. And as you insinuated yesterday Marcellus it brought me out of my off my gambling ban Falk. I I had to hop on this line. Yeah. I had to hop on. I'm I'm going to have is too many play. I actually think Portland is gonna win tonight. I think Golden State felt like they won the NBA championship last week when they beat Houston, and they're going to be a little off tonight. I mean, look Golden State has to have a little issue with the way that they won that Houston series without Durant. That's not sustainable. This is real. Who's going to be shocked if if Portland wins tonight, and I guess pulls off the upset Igwe dollar went out there. Hear what five threes, he ain't did essence to down thirteen Shaun Livingston head double digits, and that's his January. They got plenty of lymph in depth in Portland to stars neutralize without K D on both sides. I'm not shocked not surprised at all Portland wins. I don't believe in all that under and over. I was on the AC that'd be the one seat and they had as bad as getting beat four and getting blown out every game. We believed we believe team. So I don't really believe in all that. When you have a guy like Damon CJ they come into play. I know Steph has land sleep and he's waking up Danny town. I know Damon's Whitman cook and the chef they thinking about each other trust me it's going to be a good game. I don't think it's going to be a blow out either way. I think all these guys would come to play the had to say this again Brookefield would be in the Bill showing they will there. There's so much disrespect when it comes to the blazin their chance in this series. I was I was looking at scrolling through the late the late. Great marseils Wylie's, Instagram bakery. This what he pulls. This is a good one though. If Miller goes off against the warriors the same way. He did. It gets. Okay. See while McCollum plays like he did in game seven against Denver and the blazers supporting cast gives it absolute all I can definitely see the warriors winning for. Awesome. That was good. That was this was quite alva-. Tell you right now Dame's ready for this. Yes, sir. Dame is ready for this. Now. I hope everybody else on his team is ready for him. Like, I know Damian I spoke with him. He's locked in. I know CJ's lock their, you know, my my only issue is just collectively. Is there enough right there to get four games in a seven game series against one of best teams ever. I don't know. But look if there's something special to be had there's something special that can be accomplished this year. I wouldn't dismiss them. I wouldn't dismiss Portland. I don't think that Golden State to just tonight a motionlessly after what they accomplished the Houston. And all this celebrate and they've been doing and now sitting here. They're going to miss K D for at least this game. And maybe the first two games. I just don't think that's what they tapped into to beat Houston to make up for Katie. I don't think they can just tap back into it against Portland. And so I think they're actually going to kind of relax and be when Katie that's when we go handle the series. I disagree. They professionals they champions, they know what's at stake. I don't think Steve Kerr and my Bronco these guys come out and their egg this first game. They don't come on be ready play one thing about it. I know Steph, and clay, they know they better we Katie when it feel good going. I hit ninety nine out. They're not gonna really get off. They really thinking that and Stephanos going to be a lot of times where he's going to be matched up on day. So he got to be ready to play this same like last series where they just pick picking pick. And and force you to guard guys you have to go Dame because the way match setup. So it's going to be interesting to me and tell me this Jack's they're two different mindsets. One is we're not gonna have Katie for the rest of the series Houston. Okay. We good now. There's another one. Where is looming? He's coming back. But we don't know when exactly does that mess with your psyche. No. Because like I said these guys professors dating thing about Katie right now, we got a job to do right now. When we come back. That's fine. We didn't want a championship without. And we know how to win why? If he comes back, then that'd be a plus. But let's just take care of business and not worrying about him. No issue with the cameras. No, you can't you can't at this point. Here's my question for for Chris in you Jack about Dame Lillard and Utah his hometown his city. They all going to be in the house. But can't he get too emotionally caught up? Could this be too much intensity focused passion this trying to go back to the bay and win their can they work the other way as well? Well, I think it's going to be different this time because he's had experience in big games and going to stay in the playoffs and the regular season. He asked what he points the last time he played there. I think the way he played in that first series and the way he was able to realize his game and how much energy you used in. The first reason was able to step back and let his his partner win the second series form. I think they're. Focused and I think he's going to lock in. He's going to be a different name the series. I think they play these three or four times a year. If you look out on how to step so me on top of my hair right now. But believe he's averaging close to thirty or thirty plus thirty plan plan against the war is throughout his career. He's all right. He's going to be able to have that like damn Dame is a different dude, man. Like, he's a different cat. Like this guy. Really feels like the way the world is against him. All these is like he's seeing everybody. I trust him. I know he's gonna come to play. I'm not doubt him. I just team to see. Got to see all those guys who knows to disappear we talking about mohawk. Lisa a meter last year. So that when you and you brought up that college one of youngest God got it. Depend on hill. I'm concerned. He does. With lock. And while he joined now by FOX NFL analyst, Mark Larry former Pro Bowl linebacker quell Jackson. Are let's move to Denver. We're John Elway. And the Broncos continue their search for a franchise quarterback in this year's draft taking Missouri's drew lock early in the second round. But the veteran quarterback they traded for earlier in the off season. Joe flacco just made it clear. He's not interested in easing the rookies. Transition to the NFL. Listen, I got so many things to worry about I'm trying to go out there and play good football. I'm trying to go out there and play the best football my life. So as far as time constraint and all that stuff. You know? I'm not worried about developing guys or any of that that is what it is. And like I said, I hope he does develop. But I don't look at that as my job. My job is to go win football games for this football team. Well, flat goals remarks had some people upset including hall of Famer Kurt Warner who tweeted, quote, I don't understand all the quarterback saying their job is to be a mentor to young quarterbacks coming. Into the organization in what part of life, family, business, sports, etc. Do you enter where you say, I'm not here to do everything. I I'm capable of to make us better, including helping the next generation. I happened. I formerly agreed with Kurt Warner. But I'd like to Joe flacco explanation a lot. And I thought he said it is concisely and clearly as possible, and I must say the different way. But hey, John Elway hired me to win games and because van wilder and these guys want to win right now. And so I'm really not here to develop drew lock for the future. Yeah. I made the transition. I was conflicted at first I actually played under the mindset, Kurt Warner. We're talking about then I realized after that experience the hell am I thinking like I'm over here. Helping guys graduate to one day take my job. So once again, another issue curry story when keeping it real gold wrong. Flacco is going here smoke when he's telling you the exact truth about a non-guaranteed climate, which we play in a fill. So the guy is PTO. D? He just let Baltimore and got shipped out of town from quarterback who couldn't even throw like big about that I helped a guy who can't even take my job now McGhee here with somebody who can throw and I'm about the help him to no way. So I'm with Joe flacco on this one hundred percent, unfortunately. That's the hard stance of the NFL. Sometimes you hit these horror stories about guys not wanting to help you. But you know, I look at you. When I signed my contract with the Cleveland Browns and the colts in fine print. I did not find anywhere. Where told me, you know, what I had to be a leader. I had to you know, help other men I had to do all the intangible things to help my team win. But I wanted to in my opinion, it's either in you or not and as a leader, I took it upon myself as a veteran to help these young guys who have overcome how many obstacles that get to this point. Now, they're living out their dream. And if I'm gonna position to help them. That's just what I'm gonna do. And I think ultimately I think Joe flacco was in a dark place right now. Because when I help those younger guys it was because I had the confidence in my ability of how I prepare for the game. How took care of my body how eight and all these great things. I think he's in a dark place right now from from confidence stand point to where he doesn't feel like he can help the guy beside him because he feels like his job is in jeopardy. I look at. I look I off explain to me what. Mentoring is what is your responsibility as a player because I want to help everybody. Absolutely hell I wanna to help my team. I want to do all those things. I have enough confidence to believe I can tell you everything I know about football. You can't beat me because there's nobody tougher than me. And there's nobody from the neck up that's going to be smarter than me when it comes to playing the game. So I look at Joe flacco you didn't sign Josh mccowan. You didn't sign a middle of June quarterback to mentor young guy until the buy week. That's not what you sign him for signing him to be a starter. And this does not mean that Joe flacco isn't going to help the kid if the kid asks him questions, you know, what I believe it's incumbent upon a young player to come in and be mentor d- to wanna be mentor. D- right. I believe it's your responsibility to come in there. And to study what the professionals do. And then ask questions and be prepared clarify your point though, Mark should Joe flacco want to minute has gone up. Joe flacco he doesn't have to come in. It's not his responsibility to grow the kid up. It's the kids responsibility to to be a professional to understand the game. And then to ask the questions that are appropriate. Joe flacco won't withhold information. Heck, I talked to I talked to Lamar Jackson. Joe? Flacco was great. I did a game at the end of the year for Baltimore. He was great. Joe? Flacco was great Lamar Jackson. But you know, what? Joe flacco. Couldn't do. He couldn't talk about running the option. He couldn't say, hey, you know, what you feather that defensive end out a little bit. And then cut up view Joe flacco had no knowledge of that offense. Yeah. You know? It was great to him though. Here's the thing to quail. I wanna push back a little bit because I don't wanna cut out from a position of comfort. I think sometimes appear broadcasters used to play the game we could sound like that you play linebacker. You play old line. They got eight nine linebackers on the squad. They carry nine low quarterbacks they carry in today's in a field to Britain. So we took a whole different dynamic in that position. Right. And then if you look at it mentoring sounds amazing when it comes out of your mouth. But if you notice what you're also saying, you always talk a level down look at you every time, you said mentoring young guys, you ask security you talking about all the new gun not necessarily. I'm mentoring. Doesn't want to be helped. I get that. We can all we can all who's a real threat for you. That's what I'm talking about. Joe flacco look at the puts it that's a position of comfort. Joe flacco has played in. Meaning plenty meaningful football games. He's won a Super Bowl. He's made a ton of money. But yet still he's he's still feels threatened by this guy. I I agree with your point Mark. He's going to as a veteran. You're gonna come in and go to work where your hard hat. It's up to the younger gas to understand. Okay. How do I improve myself when I was a young guy. I had William mcginnis in our locker room, and guess what? Hey, man, how do you? How do you play in a league as long as she did? How do you take care of your body? I ask those questions. So it opened the door for more veterans to come and give me all their knowledge would him coming out and saying it it kind of I had to sit back a bills. You don't have to say it just go out and do it and those things are kind of naturally organically happen. But I've been in this position before too. I walked in lock boost miffed there, I'm a second round or same kind of situation. He's older veteran not threatened. But it. Same time. He's like one I got to see if you good enough to even mentor through to do you want to be mid tour, and what kind of relationship can we establish, but before that Brucie were towing tripping on you? I am not a good thing or bad thing. Like didn't exist into our saw something in you. And then we established to flacco just basically saying I've got a lot on my plate. And it ain't the second round right now. Like if he was just we could deal with that. As mean, his his comments were true to heart is very fair it one hundred percent, and it is you know, what he has got so much on his plate, and he's trying to reestablish himself. As a quarterback, maybe not an elite quarterback whatever that next level of quarterback is he's trying to reestablish his career. So. That's so many things that you're trying to do in alternately. Like, you said, he's got von Miller. He's guys out there. Chris here's junior to get him re-signed these guys out there. Emmanuel sanders. They have got guys that that wanna win that haven't had an opportunity with they're bringing him in there for that opportunity. Like, it's not his job. It's the it's the young players job to me to be worth mentally and to understand. And I say this all the time I say this to my son all the time when he became a professional baseball player. Just because you play a pro sport doesn't make you professional. You've got to learn how to be a professional and it's not Joe flacco 's he's not diaper changing. That's not his job right now. But, you know, this nobody is bitter mentor to my main right here right ankle, Jimmy Darnell. But you noticing level like he always. Wiley, Stephen Jackson, and Mark slur at the back time just anti-social man Dardanelle Smith. I like the way we should hold on. I got some beef Marcellus last segment. What do it's on my own with my level? Today dying. I Joe flacco now me. Wasn't poppet solve an NBA. We're thirty four years ago. The Knicks won the nights eighty five NBA draft lottery. The first of its kind that went on the Dr Patrick human with that pick. And soon after the conspiracy theories begin sent a lottery was rigged with NBA draft tonight and the potential all the time player Ziad being on the board. There's been whispers about this year possibly being fixed. So guys do the NBA draft can be rig. I believe that Patrick Ewing draft is the longtime pace a fan. And I was at that night. I do believe the envelope was frozen. But I don't think I don't believe this year. I don't think actually I believe the envelope was bit. I used to hit. Wayman Tisdale in that draft though. So I was kinda satisfied I'll know if his rig, but if it is rigged, this is the draft to rig to get New York guy on your back Knicks back, so I'm wooded on that. But it's a little suspicious a little weird like technology things have evolved, and we still do like ping pong balls. Like, I don't know it. All right. There's a lot of different ways. No question it's rig. There's no cloud me. You're gonna go to New York or Chicago where LA one of those teams going to get you, right? When you when you have a small market tea. I'm I'm from Denver. You gotta get eastern European Jews. That's what you when you go to. Walking Jaanus, right? He's got to build himself into a player. You'll get the top pick. When you're in one of them small markets. I wouldn't say as rig, but it could be. Definitely could charged. It would. Sticking with the NBA. Joel Embiid has been getting trolled non stop for crying at the end of the season some people alive. You this dean soft players around the league of actually been defending MB? Really, go beer of what's his opinion saying that only losers thing that crying assign a witness and then Richard Jefferson chimed in as well tweeting out playoff wins and losses. If you've never caught you've never truly cared or a committed. Let me go. I this Embiid. All right. The first of all. The guy from Utah was crying because he didn't make defensive team. That's why he would he go bear. Bear. That's totally different in the playoffs. You have a chance to win a championship. You should be hurt. When given everything you've had all you you get to this point where you had a game seven, and you lose by satellite that that rose by the basketball guys and go here, you should be heard not because you didn't make all defensive team next time. More shots be a better defender, and you'll make me that's not a reason to crack. Okay. I told you what my grandma say wants you. Call for tension. You can't hang up, right? William b like to smoke. He remote. Right. Nothing. I have a problem with crop. When I lost my days every time to get it. I know who I cry with and cry around that part right right there. I'm not giving you that not too much. That's no my wife now, I'm not giving you that. Because that's forever. And then that relationship if ever I'm just saying that's what I knew that people were going to clown him. Who is that his girlfriend? Okay, mom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember young years in the league. When you're out the playoffs. Let's go have it in. Hopefully, she's still there. I I don't know. I just want Super Bowls. Right. Going them. I don't know. Wrong prime. But I guarantee you not teammate next year. I mean, there's going to be Kleenex in his diapers me. I'm going to. I'm a run we on who who in. Yeah. I would have just taken this to the locker room. Did. Thank you share that moment with your teammates. Model Budo she opened his home in his hand with a figure. Do all that. Let's hit the links John day, you'll be using a car in the PGA championship this week because he has an arthritic knee. He's the first player to rod Carter at a major since Casey morning. Nice ninety eight from two thousand to a lot of players are upset with this decision with Tiger Woods comments day. I want on a broken leg in revenue of two thousand eight US open win. Are you guys talking here? Do you have an issue with John Daly using a car? I do. Wasn't the same. Gotta smokes class y. The same guy. Now, you wanna ride in the cart tiger. We can take it from tiger. And this is the champion is one of the best ever if you plan on a broken leg. He has ruined complain. Right. You can't complain that you've been smoking cigarettes. Welcome out, of course in whole year. That's your moment. Tim, I looked. But this to me, this is interesting. They are basically admitting that walking has an impact on your game. Which is you know, everyone who's walked eighteen realizes like data. That's that's the task. Yes, you're not carrying your bag though. So think about it like they're just walking not carrying a bag. But now someone in a court, you really think he has an unfair advantage to me. That's like an interesting. You looked at him. He looks like he's carrying. Today. I mean to me he's got an arthritic. Knee because you didn't take care of your health. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I got this is a very unfair advantage. John Daly looks week here. Tigers wife or call them. All right. A card. Question of the day. I now take it away the western Carolina finals starts tonight. And with the curry brothers playing against each other. This is the first time that two bras will face off an NBA conference finals Steve Kerr called the Curry's the warriors family of the NBA and the sound it lists like saw you and deal. They're going to flip a coin to see which parent roots were which kit one to ask you guys. Do you guys think parents have a favorite child? Absolutely. Ooh. This stop like everything in this world. We like I like that. I don't like that. Like that's a relative world, you know? So look if first of all if I'm them, the parents I have to root for after because Seth is the underdog Seth hasn't had the same love. So you always root for the underdog kid that said my kids, I have three kids. My I is my first my second is my favorite my third my baby girl. So you have a favorite of all kind of her when I just say, oh, tell them that. I feel like the Curry's parents. This is the first time that they do too much, and they cloud chasing the end of the dance. Because at the end of the day who got us who lose they both going to get hook one goes say, congratulations one of those. They don't worry about a baby you've got next year. The love is going to be the same. It's just one guy losing one guy to win. But they're gonna love him saying, they don't get a hug from daddy. They Bogle get home. Daddy. They Bobo get a hug from, mommy. One. Go second, graduations. What goes they get better their cloud tasting. No because they run with this. Because at the end of the day, we know y'all can make it seem like trying to pick up your room for you room for both of your kids. You're going to be the chairman both when they make shots. Well, don't dis those St. he do parents have favorite kids. Yes. Of course. No question. But they love you the same. I've provided for my family more. My momma might love me. I mean, my SAMA favorite. But she loves all of us the same. She treated all of us the same as real you know, what I mean? But I am the breadwinner. I get treated special. My all my aunts. Not just my mind, my whole family. It's just the truth. Favors depending on which one pisses you off in which we're doesn't. And you think you think you have favorite kids? Wait till you have grandkids. All right like my kids anymore. I love my granddaughters. What? So obvious L have kids, but I've just think about this through my parents is my brother is a better person than me. And that makes him the favourite person in my family. I've done a little bit better than my brother. And you know, mama goes on vacation because of me and lives in a house. But I think my brother is the favorite kid. No, you touching something because laws offsets I had. I've always tell people I look up to my brother, and I was wishing. I'm like, my brother me having kids by different my he has one mother kids mother. He's married work. And he's been doing it the right way. So I might be the breadwinner. Yeah. My my brothers the backbone of that's the my family. My sister, you better person to touch right here. Say she liked your brother. He is the goals to hear my brother. What everybody answered them Whitlam calls 'cause money talks. What did you do? What are you doing? I hate to pass. I was gonna come to you win like that. But. Ways. Core pool is not a bus ways. Core pool is not a taxi ways. Core pool is not the metro in DC writers ways. Core pool is not a slug line. What is ways carpool a new app that lets neighbors coworkers and fellow commuters ride together to work and home fast? Drivers say Hello to that express lane and get reimbursed for gas riders getting affordable commute and help save the planet and core is get to know their neighbors and co workers a little bit better and ways core pool is smart. Not only does it match you with people who are going your way it connects you with people who you'd actually want to ride with so you can commute smarter with no headaches people if you use ways already, you know, it's built by a community to give you the best traffic pitcher in real time. All the time ways corporate functions with the same high quality standards and efficiency down, though, the ways corP app today to catch a ride or give a ride to work or home. Ride together with ways carpool. Woodlock and Wiley marks Larry dwell Jackson back. Let's move to New York with the giants have made it clear they plan to be patient with Wikki quarterback thing film with general manager. Dave Gettleman recently, saying Jones could sit behind ally manning for as long as three years, but now in J dot com suggests the giants patients could be making a mistake with several recent quarterbacks like Carson Winston Jared Gulf starting rookies in having success early in their careers. The question here is will sitting behind e lie help or hurt Daniel Jones, I think will help tremendously actually if you look at all the hysteria and people in the criticism about him being six overall pick and how he's going to be just a bust. Okay. Disa- give time for that. To just settle down to you're gonna learn for someone who learned micro movements in the pocket because they're not that athletic ally. Manning, so your athletic talent, you have to work going some of your skills and technique. And and some of the mechanics that's alive possesses as his great attribute. So it's little osmosis. Peanut butter and jelly could work going. Why you're sitting there letting this criticism die now and starting to really learn the position in a different way to complement your game. I think it's a great benefit I do too. And look at you mentioned Carson once. Well, really, of course once had that that season where he was tremendous after his rookie season his second year. Then he tours ACL and a game against the the Rams and last year, you know, he had injury issues then again last year, and it was it was Nick foles who won the Super Bowl was Nick foles who got them back into the playoffs. I look at anytime you have an opportunity to sit and learn the your craft from a guy who's done it and done it at a very high level. That's a good thing. The other thing is when you're a young quarterback that has you have a supreme gift of athleticism, your default mechanism is from the neck down when things break down your. Tendency is a young player is to take off and trust the athletes, isn't that's been there your entire life. It's something that's God-given hand to God reached down, touchy and said, you're going to be a great athlete. Right. And so that's always your default mechanism. You have to learn that position your default mechanism needs to be from the neck up. Because if it's not you're not gonna last very long the guys like that. I picked up the ball one time fumble one time. And I thought it was going to score I got three yards, and I'm telling you I got hit by about fourteen people were bringing guys off the sideline to hit me. Those guys are angry, and they and they're fast and out to they'll devastate a young quarterback. Yeah. I just think this question is too early to answer. I think now if you go into training camp you go into preseason game. And this Shire this guy has shown he can command an offense. He can you know, the ball spinning from his arm, and he has his leadership qualities, and you know, what you start hitting that Chatto around the locker room, this guy could actually help us any city. Then, you know, now the question lures, I okay. Should this guy? Be. Playing right away or should should he be sitting? Ideally for a quarterback to play for young quarterback to come in and step in and play right away. He's gotta learn on the fly. But if you can sit back and eat lack in manage this team at least halfway through the season pecan somewhat be a Munich u of molecule of who he we've known him to be when he was great. I think it benefits Daniel Jones. But if he if he liked comes out, and he's has any reminder of what he was last season. I think this kid has a play. Let's be clear here though, about Matt Lombardo's story for J dot com is pretty good the last quarterback selected six or higher to not start a game as a rookie was Philip rivers. So the trend in the NFL is the completely other direction trial by fires how they're teaching quarterbacks. Now, we used to hey, guy sits two or three or four years back in the old days. The Tom Landry days and all the way up to Aaron Rodgers seem to have benefited from. Mm sitting behind Brett Farr. But the nutrient is about putting the guys out there. The Russell Wilson's and these other young guys and let them grow up in the middle of the fire. That's what the giants are going to potentially deny Daniel Jones. So when he does get out there he'll be further behind perhaps Dwayne Hoskins and Calamar. Yeah. And I mean that there is definitely that. There's definitely that part of it. Right. But I've also seen the opposite were a guy is not ready and a team is not very good. And a guy takes a beating. I mean, I will never forget Patrick Ramsey starting for the Washington Redskins. When Spurrier was the coach there. I mean that guy that guy there were like I've said this before, but there are people doing five to ten in the state pen to did less to get there. Then what Spurrier did of that poor kid? It was I mean there was. There was no hot route those. No, I mean that offense was just dropped back. And we're going out athlete. You know, you don't do that in the NFL. So I've seen guys like David Corbett ruined. I've seen guys like Patrick Ramsey. Get ruined by being by playing too early and playing early on a team. That's not very good. Yeah. But maybe I'm just I live in my own little bubble. But I feel like we all bring out the kid kid gloves when it evolves around a quarterback. In any other position if you can play you play with this position. I get it. There's a lot that goes on and you can speak more about it did not could I was tackling people all my career. But but I think if the guy shows he's mature enough to handle the New York media he can handle the locker room, and he can galvanize guys together and guys believe in him. I think he should be the guy. Now, we don't know if he has three years has two years of talent left. But you know, what it's crazy about Eli? He's so Teflon last year you remember a couple of years ago. Gonna try to sit him down. How do you go? So you know, if they say he after years and he showed flashes last year. He went back to twenty fifteen version of himself. But look at these guys you say Philip rivers in the top six who didn't start his first year. That's a great outlier. Patrick, Mahomes wasn't top six but still right at ten. Josh Rosen wish now he could have sat. Wait with that one out. Why you put the kid gloves on quarterbacks? It's this simple. For me. Will we played no one other positions around you on defense was a luxury. Like if I knew what the detect within the linebackers say it helps. But it wasn't in the city you'll get under center. If you don't know what everyone is doing on your side of the ball anticipating what they're doing in disguise of rich. Like learn it in three months when you were seven and seventeen and ACC done it before. Okay. Great. But they're not me. My name is Daniel Jones you sign me. Please. Let me grow don't step on the flower before it could I will tell you one other thing real quick about playing in a position like what you played or what I played or what you played. When things aren't going. Well, for me like I'm having a tough time a tough day. I can turn it into a street fight. I might not great out. Really? Well, I'm not gonna cost my team a game. Like, you can you can turn into ultra-aggressive still gonna make some plays right quarterback. You can't all of a sudden say, we'll let me just bullied these dudes. It doesn't work that way we go. I'd like to say a word or two about the Cleveland Cavaliers hiring a Sixty-six-year-old John beeline as their new coach on the surface. The move is laughable and disconcerting beeline line is the oldest first time non interim NBA coach in history. The last time the NBA went this old the San Antonio, Spurs tap UNLV's sixty one year old Jerry Tarr Canaan. It'd be their head coach. It was a disaster tarp feuded with ownership over the signing of Avery Johnson. As the team's point guard of the future and was fired after twenty games be line has a low bar to clear, I think he'll do it. If you're paying attention. You realize the NBA has adopted be lines to guard three point crazy offensive style. Beeline. Started putting his forwards in the corners scissor cutting and Jackie long range jumpers in the early nineteen eighties. When he was a coaching a small college basketball team the system of. Actually made West Virginia dangerous and the university of Michigan a national powerhouse before. Steph. Curry had won his first NBA title beeline was meant to coach in the modern MBA can an old fart like beeline coexist with the modern NBA player. It depends on if the player values winning above the feeling of being in control too, many of us in the media associated LeBron James as Representative of the modern NBA player. The truth is James represents a handful of super talented outliers. But Brian James, James harden, Chris Paul, Kyrie Irving. Russell Westbrook prefer being individual systems Steph curry, Damian Lillard Jaanus, the Greek freak and countless other players, including Kevin Durant don't mind bending to the demands of a system that creates Winnie. It's the subtle difference between chasing, Michael Jordan, or Larry O'Brien MVP's or titles. It's easy to win MVP. Jeez. Pounding the ball in isolation at the top of the key. It's easier to win titles. Moving off the ball. Steph curry style of play continues to sweep the league. That's why John line got the Cavaliers job and the Lakers passed on. Tyron Lou the Cavaliers just doubled down on what they tried to do when they hired David Blatt in two thousand fourteen eighteen months later, the Brian rejected bladders Cleveland's coach. Enforce the Cavs to replace Blat with his top assistant tie. Lou history is repeating itself in Los Angeles. The Lakers hired Frank Vogel, and Jason Kidd in an attempt to keep pace with the modern MBA and satisfy the bronze need for control. The bottom line is clear Steph curry John beeline in the modern MBA a wind. I want him back with locking while. He's Stephen Jackson and Chris Haines back. Let's move to Philadelphia where the seventy Sixers regrouping after their crushing loss onto while Leonard miracle shot in game seven Sunday. Now, some people are saying big changes could become into the team which NBC's Tom Haberstroh reporting a rival MBA executive says Philly may explore trading. Ben Simmons to the Lakers for none other than LeBron James. This is fascinating. And I think this trade if LeBron James primary interest were winning this would make a lot of sense for the Brian James to go to Philadelphia and win you can win in Philadelphia. I don't think he's gonna win here in Los Angeles. And this would make district would make sense for the broad James. It's absurd on his own his face. Think about one you got this talk about logistically, you got to move your whole family go over there. Okay. I hope you can survive. Mr casey. Name. On your own came with doing that. Nobody leave puffy Jay Z on a New York is still here. Everybody hilly are that's one. Here's the thing focused on winning that team's going to different next year. We don't know what's going to happen with free agency. Jimmy, Butler Tobias Harris wherever you may be going to seventy Sixers and Philadelphia, and they got 'em be and his knees and all his issues and LeBron you you're not guaranteed. Anything? We got the same agent. You swept me off a little brother that doesn't feel good to me if I'm the king. So I don't see anywhere. We're just really has any substance. It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense. But it makes sense if Philly can get LeBron if any kind way what sign and trade I ever they got to make it work. I love it scientifically bullet back. Lebron and be I think that's perfect. I think to give up instuments LeBron even though LeBron is at the end this career. I like it because that gets filling to the finals every year damn near that gives them a chance to be in the Eastern Conference finals every year and. I just like it. I think it's a better situation abroad at his age if he wants to young core here, we forget, he's not going. It's going to be another season. If this is the same team in LA is going to be the same season out of the play offs to talking about willowbrook on Rome coups but bowl is not better. This is the Western Conference in the Brian got a Waco call. This is not the calm, but you can have anybody on team and get to the playoffs you take forty eight as out here because you've got to get at least fifty eight seed. Yes, let's remember this that will LeBron's James is going through his free agency process. This last go around the Philadelphia civic Sixers were one of the few teams who actually got a meeting with his as Rich Paul would that be a sit. Then no way hail. This is happening on is. Not look we we're talking about if this was strictly basketball reason. Yeah. This strictly basketball, of course. But me to myself. I've got I've gotten used to his LA wooded fake, y'all. Call them like win. Here. The Broncos whole family. Go through Space Jam space over there in Philly giving doing that provident hot. Making my point. So the priority isn't winning is not basketball right now. It's Space Jam is the shop is the one thousand version of Muhammad Ali documentary the. The. That was a whitening. Defined anything else in a moment lead duck with that you learned books. Documentaries movies have been done on Muhammad Ali LeBron need to quit it look if this was about. If this who's about basketball, that's. Fair Ron even said when he came here that it was bigger than even said like my family or part of this equation. We came follow man who's like thinking outside of himself selfish. Lease like, I got a lot of things to carry including my family happiness with the wife happiness with the sun, consistency them for your stable like, okay? And with all that he stood had MVP season. Yeah. Nameless numbers to stem, the same twenty eight eight eight doesn't man didn't make the playoffs. Stop him. Heave his team not him. MVP type numbers. Do we with me to take a deeper? Look at these numbers. They don't say what people say, look, look, just let's say you Jeanie Buss listening. He's worried about his family. And I mean my God who's going to oversee the shop. I mean my God. I mean, if I'm Jay, right? That's what it looks like. That's that's my makers. Winning coach. Had on a screen abroad. So now you've got a roster. A Ben Simmons Lonzo ball. The world ain't going to help you in the in the back court part. What what what are what are we doing? No worse live first of all Chris that you don't put Lonzo and Ben Simmons on the same level that destroys over with a little Lonzo hype is over Lonzo. I've talked up talking to already good if he stayed healthy. But I'm talking strictly to shop. I'm talking strictly from that. I get it. But Lonzo can sit on the bench and get traded someplace else if he doesn't like it. Oh, you got a chance to get Ben Simmons and some other pieces because it would take some other pieces to get those numbers right answers to match up. It would give them Lakers. Look, I've said it, and I'm gonna keep seeing the genie was and they're over LeBron. This is just a headache that they're dealing with right now. And they don't is it going to be a headache, we dealing with for months is headache. We doing we're for another year or we're going to survive the last three years at a migraine or a slight headache. It's a migraine migraine's. Oh. If they don't think is curable, but they gotta deal with it. We're gonna fake if Sixers came in here with the right offer, and they could move on from the Bronx and the wind could go win and still be relevant rather than this. Lebron that's out of the play offs. It's better for the league is better for the broad better fairly maker. So I can't do the voice you kill the voice. Toed games. Daddy, Bill Showtime, JD Kobe fifty million what she knew Kobe was going down the hill with no brakes because they put me in the seats like Showtime. You gotta remember the DNA of is frail buys. No come see been not like well. No. I I feel like the way they handled this coast situation. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if they did something else to LeBron. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't even winning the because it's a western where they didn't give him what he wanted and the other thing with the gave him what he wanted. They showing they showing you that we're bucking the system against LeBron one. They showing you that I don't even think they're bucking the system stat. I think they are acknowledging what the rest of the Lee has LeBron's model has expired, and it's a city. That's why John beeline got this job, man. The whole league is about system and coaching systems, and and not an individual system and somebody plan ice. Oh off the top of the key. Just no it's not as fashionable as it used to be the league. Has moved on. That's why they brought Vogel there. And if they can unmown abroad, and he can get someplace 'cause I'm it would be not only better for the bottom. It'd be better for the league. Lebron needs to be playing for championships these next year and the year after that. That's what's best for the brand the league and everybody, I if they force my hand, and I'm LeBron James, I'm not playing anymore. Like, I'm not going somewhere else. And you force my hand like one to power struggle. Just that's not what my legacy needs to see in terms of this is how in my career. I got forced out of plan for the Lakers. This is the place you wanted to go. Yeah. Exactly. So now, you're going to go somewhere else like the bras, not having that no trade clause, whatever like he's not going. Let's let's think through though, Marcellus let's say he gets through this off season. And he's looking at damn I got another roster that won't be championship competitive. If what we work now is his wizard. What do you say? Now, I don't think he did. Happy. Can you very happy? The sun is out. It can be happening in the sun is out. There's something going on every day. There's there's there's a point to go to here. There's a moment. Iran today. We'll go to film would. Boiler. I would he when he came over here on he said, there's nothing that I could accomplish in this league that I haven't already unless you know, where he's at. It is something he can come another championship honest, Dan. But might not care about that though. Implore like in terms of how you're going to be it doesn't matter. If gets his fourth. I'm just saying how are they Steph ever going to be tough off all time. If he keeps you all know if he keeps. No, he's not. So the three to four is gonna make a difference three to six if he catches Jordan. He got a conversation. He catches Kobe. Maybe three to four is that really going change it. I'm saying each year when you can add something to get better every year. That's what you playing forget not to just be complacent. 'cause you in LA, we'll tell you know, what I mean to another year like this people like me and Lakers fans. Talking trash on on your tired of being this weathering. Jimmy's here to help us with our approval ratings. You got any thoughts on the show so far? Yeah. I want to get to the big dummy. Today victim your day. Somebody's gonna sit there and talk about LeBron James making the Mohammed Ali documentary who the hell can who they don't want to see the moment. I'll eat documentary. It ain't Gooding junior documentary. Cuban last thirty Mohammed Ali documentary. He is the greatest come on with this real take thirty miles around to. I'm ready for the first one. Here's a highlight from our discussion from earlier about Zion Williamson Zion Williamson wishes he could return to do. So do I mean this one hundred percent. Fuck you with. No the year. Ktar. Nobody forcing your LeBron. We had a discussion about whether Zion was a can't miss prospect. I think he's a can't miss prospect, Jimmy, which rotate. He's a Kate miss. Trae miss our he came. He can't miss a meal. And that's what I'm gonna say about him. You got some of the same problem. Go y'all got to wait Brum. Hey, wait to eat. That boys. Six what's in two hundred and eighty pounds eighteen years old? The perfect science to do your job. I remember as a kid. Well, you couldn't even older Sunday paper without getting a nose bleed. Now, you think this boy go run up and down the court changing NBA players without that baby fat. Now, let me tell you Jim is special. I know about that. And despite contrary belief, they KUA baby fat down in the south. Like, you think they are as a matter of fact in some parts of the southeast embraced. I mean Jimmy is from the south Clack lackey I Don random screech. I tend to knife stubborn church. Cleats. The real gospel. About the religion. I'm gonna have God change water into Kool aid. The thing. I know a little bit about that. Right. There you go down. South Carolina appetizing is down there. Half a pound the fried bacon. Back home. They used to calls I on fast break. But you know, what out figured that out? Then ain't nothing but breakfast field backwards. China's a big big trove Barclay fan. He you know, he he's in. He'll be he hoped. He gets to be as big as Charles Barkley. I him hell. I don't him. Help that Breda. When a glass of water, you just mind. You know, all the all zone. Don't give damn about the NBA man Zion. Just care about that press box up there. For you journalists he joined to be like you and Charles Barkley. That's all he wanna do. He ain't give him damn about all the rest of this y'all talking about me talking. The name Joe walking you've been in the league. Pudding five years trying to get rid of baby fat. He's trying to bring to his role. The NFL got the Wunderlich till? Now, what the NBA better do is get Zay on the hot water, Colin Brad test. I need to ask him. If he how to make hot water cone breed. He know how to make wanna cone Brit. They got a problem. List? Diane is the next DeMarcus Russell. Jamarcus Russell that great big, bulky. Got stuck on their purpose. Uri zion. Gonna do the same thing. He will come down. They get stuck on that angel momma serve. He'll be seeing those like this. We go to. To be looking what blunders? We'll be all sticky. Look, they don't get that boy a multi million dollar contract in a one year of fifty to. No dash. The NBA going to be in for him. I'll just wait a subscription to door. Kate miss came. A meal death. What he can't miss. Let me get him up. John. No, I know. I got him at almost a perfect score all day four job performance. Twenty four all time greatness twenty-five in character. Twenty-three in often to the for a total of ninety seven ninety six Paul baby. Character authenticity ninety close to a goat. But not there that character. You ain't got Krieg who over there awards through new year. But you know, they forced me to go. But they really not force me. Then you're not being authentic. Komo ziya. We bought into your brain. You ain't got a lot of this shoot blew apart. He should've left he stayed lottery. The lottery accurate.

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Lakers Fast Break- Is There No Love For The Europen Prospects? with Rafael Barlowe!

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Lakers Fast Break- Is There No Love For The Europen Prospects? with Rafael Barlowe!

"The all right. We're back with another episode of the Lakers. Podcast it's glass for. Come right back at you. Here from LAKER's fastbreak pop culture cosmos inside sports fantasy football and game source. We truly appreciate everyone out there listening to all great shows. And if you can please give us that five star review on Apple podcasts. Or if you can like subscribe follow anything you can do on your podcast APP. Whether it's spotify apple podcasts anchor or any of the other tens of thousands seemingly. Podcasts catchers. That are out there. We truly appreciate you listening to our show and cannot thank you enough for doing so and if you've got an NBA basketball or Lakers fan in your life that you want to go ahead and have them check out. Please do so. Please suggest our show. We'd be indebted to you if you could. Well it's another great episode of Gone on tap for you want to go and thank you for listening. He's back one more time. You gotta go ahead and check out his great experience known as NBA Draft Junkies. You start off with the great site. Nba DRAFT JUNKIES DOT com. You had into his awesome youtube page which breaks down all the latest goings on with the NBA draft with detailed analysis of picks mock drafts breakdowns of the actual prospects themselves on NBA draft junkies on Youtube. And then for your listening pleasure you can now check out his podcast available on anchor spotify in so many different outlets that's NBA draft junkies as well. It is a good man indeed. It's an experience my friend now an NBA draft junkies. You Raphael Barlow and Rafeal. Thanks for coming back on no problem. I never had as an experience. I'll accept it. I'll take it that. Well I have to go ahead. I was saying to another friend of mine. Because you got all these things going on in your life and you got all these things people can check out. It's no longer just this or that it's a whole embodiment of all the great work that you're going ahead and putting into it. Yeah I mean I would like to be able to reach people and as many different platforms as possible. There's some people that are going to prefer to. There's some people may like to just read on the website and then I think just adding the podcast is was just a a no brainer for me. And it's it's been inspired by you. just listen to the the. Podcasts are just getting the notifications on my phone semi name on there. It's kind of pushed me to do something that I had been wanted to do it. It's awesome to hear and but that's a credit to yourself. I mean you gotta go ahead. You sound awesome every time you're on the show and tell you what anytime I can get. Anybody into podcasting is always brings a little bit of a special place in my heart because I have over the ten years. Plus I've been doing. This have been able to at least talk to be about trying a podcast and for the most part they found it enjoyable and and worthwhile experience. So I mean ten years in podcasting is you must have got in right before it. Really really just. I shouldn't say must have. He did get in before it blew up now. It seems like everybody has a podcast. Exactly it's about two thousand nine. I think it was my first podcast. I really didn't get into into it. We were we. Were never on a set schedule doing it for years. Just you know about maybe one hundred fifty over the course of like five years but never just really getting into a schedule things of that nature until the latter half decade. That's something I will always regret like you said two thousand nine. I could have gotten to it so much more and I could have been the Joe Rogan. You never know spotify get paid. One hundred million dollars is a lot of money to talk if you think about it but it just shows that I mean we all for the most part have the capabilities of creating our own platforms. And there's somebody that may have interest. I'm sure that when you came out with your probably thought like how you GonNa talk about the Lakers year round or talk about whatever but it shows that there are people who will listen and there's billions of people in the world who needs some form of entertainment so I wish I would have gotten earlier but I'm here now so now that I I've joined the park has world. I plan on producing a lot of amount of content. That's all time. Yes gotTA make up for lost time indeed but you gotta check out what he's doing today just type in NBA draft donkeys. And you'll be glad you did but my friend is so much to talk about on. Today's show wanted to go ahead. And you know you're hearing rumors. I know you're seeing on twitter. Shamsher Anya the Adrian. Motion now skis. They're sending out the all the notes to the owners. Their their proposals Adam Silver's trying to coordinate with Orlando. I'm sorry to my friends in Las Vegas here unfortunately Orlando looks more and more and more like the place that it's going to be happening and it looks like it may be happening may have not confirming anything yet but may be happening around the end of July as far as an NBA season being picked up once again in some form or fashion in Orlando in the ESPN World of sports. That's their the complex that they have there. I think there's three arenas that they have the going to go ahead and separate between Practice facilities and actual game places an actual places for them to play games. Not going to be as many as Las Vegas in an area where they can As I was saying with Laker Tom earlier this week they can go ahead and have a place to take control. I did say control on the show but I think a place where they can go ahead and manage things better as far as because of this pandemic and I understand jared Dudley from the Lakers and some of the comments that he's made about being in like a jail or type deal but you're talking about a pandemic man I mean. What are you supposed to do you? There's really there's no one hundred percent right answer but being in a facility like Orlando. There's just no the reason why they're doing it. There is because they can better have you know. Have a better outlook have a better idea. Exactly how control the virus? This is all about controlling the virus and limiting the amount of people who get infected. So exactly what are you supposed to do? I don't know I mean if you look at social media from discount current weekend it looks like there's some people have declared the pandemic is over. I've seen the videos or pictures of ozarks this weekend. I've seen videos of pool parties so it looks like some people who have just said No. It's over I don't care then. There are also people who are still planning say then there people who are. I don't know it's just tough. That people who are going to get haircuts in Guangzhou the salons getting their nails done and to benefit essential. I mean it's just a great divide as far as the topic of of what we should do. You know so and at the end of the day it's all money motivated so even with the NBA. This is motivated by the fact that they have to play over seventy gangs for the TV money and then. I even read that like Chris. Paul not as paycheck on the fifteenth. It was short like four hundred thousand dollars so even though he's made hundreds of millions of dollars he probably doesn't want to keep having four hundred reduced from his check because if he got that taken out of his coma fifteenth that he's the one coming up on the first. It's going to be the same thing and then jump fifteen so now. He's out of one point two million dollars so. I think that people are just I should. I should say like this. It's all money motivated. And it's kind of IFFY. That people are choosing money over health or so armed so I will. In my opinion I would really love to see if they were to ask each player individually off the record. Do they want to play or do they want to get this season over? What would the answer be? That's a good question. My friend a lot of great questions are being asked this point in time there is no one hundred percent right answer in all this going on. There's no one hundred percent right answer either. Which Way and there's people on definitive both sides as I've seen on your social media and I've seen a my social media and see all of our social media's people are on both sides doesn't matter what divide you are as a matter left or right or anything of that nature just just people are so definitive in their answers which way we should go but the ultimate thing is there is no one hundred percent right answer if you go for the site of health or if you go for the side of economy so there's just no way to go ahead and be hundred percent right. You're going to sacrifice you either which way I mean. My wife works at a hospital that I take her to several days a week to go work at where. She's at risk of her life every single time that she goes there and she she hears about the how many people have checked into the hospital and and things of that nature. So it's not slowing down. It may be slowing down in some parts. It's rising others. We're seeing we're hearing stories of one and the other one and the other is spiking is not spiking. You know it's just you. There is no right answer all when all comes down to it and when it comes to the players in the league I mean. They're only trying to do what's Best Adam. Silver for yes the money aspect but also for the health and the aspect of the players. So it's not coming down to something where he wants them to go ahead and put them in a controlled environment. He's not trying to go ahead and make it out like an imprisonment type deal but it is something that these players have to be cognizant about as far as okay. I'M GONNA go ahead and sneak out and go to Disneyworld or do this or do that and come back and put the other players South in jeopardy it seemingly you know there is no right answer and it just like you said before it's just everybody just has Z. So definitive ideas on what they should be doing and I don't know it's just such a weird time and there's really no one hundred percent right answer correct and I've been trying to keep up with the across the world from the different basketball leagues and China's still hasn't started back up and they were originally. I think they call the players back March. I and so still not playing and some of the guys. Some of the teams. I've actually allowed the American players to come back home to the state while the I know there's a couple of teams in the Beijing ducks. They still have their players. They're in China and so I haven't talked to anybody in a while about it but I know that they're still looking to try to get their season started but just in China alone area in the northeastern part of the country where they have one hundred million people that they put back on lockdown. So it's like I don't I don't know No Israel is looking to start back up and they wanted their players to report back on. May Eighteenth and I think there's a few of them that still haven't haven't Came back yet and then this week coming up and I think it's maybe tomorrow tomorrow so Monday. The twenty seven. There's GonNa be a big aiding about whether or not they should cancel or keep playing with the league season and I'll tell you what it's just. This is something that again. There is no. Nobody's one hundred percent wrong in this whole scenario but you gotta understand. There's there's an issue of public health and there's also a issue people's livelihoods and we should be respectful of both ideals as we move forward on this but again as you know in our society right now. It's not always the most civil thing in the world. I agree tell you it's just such a wacky time but you know it is looking more and more like about eight to ten weeks that there will be games being played and which which means that a lot of these players now. That practice facilities are open. They're starting to work out. And as somebody who is or has been working out players in the League and players in other leagues not on the NBA G. League European all over the world. What did they need to focus on? Because as you and I both have seen over the course of many years especially me. Many many many years watching sports we've seen where people rush back to quickly as far as their rehabilitation or as far as the exercise that do in the off season and they end up injuring themselves and hurting themselves hurting their team much more than what they would have done before. So what process? Are you suggesting you're would? You suggest to those players. And how they go about their regimen as they go ahead and gear up towards a possible restarting season. Like I said most likely for you if the rumors hold true around the end of July. This is a tough question simply because I don't think we have to really compare it to for example if if it were training camp. Let's say was I don't know September first and we're starting training camp usually guys even if they don't do anything all summer. They start preparing in August so they may ramp up their workouts and then even after the ramp their workouts they may get into some five on five action and so you may have among before training camp. They may have two weeks of training camp and then they start playing games and then you have two weeks of preseason and then season starts so that's you know at least eight weeks and so I don't even know if they're gonNA have a weeks and then as of today. I think there are eleven teams. Haven't opened their facilities yet so no matter how hard you try even if a player has had access to a gym like a Mike. Conley working out every day. You still can't simulate five on five. You can't stimulate being bumped coming off pinned downs. You can't simulate boxing down or anything like that. So it's it's GonNa be tough but if I were in charge working on a play I think the first thing I do is just make sure. They're getting shots. And just getting a rhythm back about handling. But even then that's going to be tough simply because it seems like teams are still going to do a little bit of social distancing like two or three players at a time and gym so you got fifteen guys on the roster you spreading that out over over hours and then I read that Traveling parties of the teams are going to be reduced to like like fifty to thirty three. So I mean could you imagine Popovich out there. Having to rebound pass me with the reduced staff. That's going to happen so this is just a very weird time that we don't really have anything to compare it to go. This is definitely a different time than than any other than you and I are very experienced. We're GONNA have to wait and see. I mean I'm just worried. They're going to be a lot of hamstring interest. Because that's something you and I've seen before especially after the strike seasons for both the NBA and NFL. A lot of hamstrings because the way that the stretch out maybe seems to get maybe forgotten about or maybe not done well enough because there just seems to be. Hamstring seemed to be the first thing that I see most common in these type after these type of breaks yeah hamstring grown but even then. What makes the situation so different? Let's say it was a lack out shorten season year preparing for a whole season or half a season. But you have a fresh start in this case. You don't even have a fresh start. You're playing for Twenty Games over if you're like a bad team. If you're the hawks of the cavs you're playing just to finish out the season. So what motivation do you really have? And if you're not necessarily motivated you you may not be training for you know like you would if you had a force these and ahead or half season or zero zero record so. I think that could be something. That is. Can't be tough because guys may not take serious because I just think I'm getting in shape and I'm preparing just to play for two weeks and then I'm off again like I said we will see but it's GonNa take a while. I think it'll be over. I remember one time earlier. We were talking about maybe a twenty five day type of training camp. I think it's going to necessitate being a little bit longer for them before they get the season start. I think it's what you say. Thirty to forty five day would probably be even more sufficient again. I don't know because I think even if it's twenty five days guys are going to get tired of planning guys and for twenty five days. So they're to want to get up and down the court and play and get started. I don't I really don't know that at least in Texas I'm in Dallas. The gyms of have opened up in Texas and so guys are starting to get back to the gym and work out. Maybe as far as like strength and conditioning workouts more than basketball but people are starting to try to slowly get back into the groove of things. Well we'll see what happens my friend. That's a lot we're going to be talking about over the coming weeks as the NBA gets closer to a definitive answer whether or not it's going to be engaged. Lie Waft wait and see but it is looking more and more that direction. I mean they're polling the different owners asking them about their thoughts on how to best to continue the season And we'll see what scenarios that there are and of course At Orlando that facility. That's there with the different threats three different arenas and and they're gonNA have to how they're going to separate the course and all that we'll we'll hear more in the coming weeks how they're going to do it right here at the Lakers fast-break we're signalling the REP for a quick time out. But we'll be back with more of the Lakers fast-break podcast check out. What's been going on with the pop culture cosmo show and the PCC multi vers. I see it the potential for basically a another netflix's kind of paradigm shift. Where here comes this other major player? They have a ton of resources. Apple could change the way that entertainment is they say. It's the only time this year that you'll have stars from each brand battling each other. We know it's not going to be the case. But they like to say that and more power to them my guests. Well it's big first step bringing all those superheroes together there. Were definitely some parts of movie that I that I really enjoyed. 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Is there anyone out there that you think has a chance to do it because I think right now when it comes down to it in this type of scenario and you're not in front of a home crowd and you're not necessarily on a road game per se and I'm using that in quotations here in this type of scenario we could see a lot of different things happening in an NBA playoff scenarios? So your thoughts on the Eastern Conference. Could it be a little bit more tight as far as the maybe top? Three top four teams than we might think yeah. I don't know if at this point that you can really have a clear cut favorite because everybody's chemistry is be thrown off people's rhythm may be off you just never know. I feel like if the regular season had ended normally than I will say the books would be my favorite. I think Boston was playing well right before the season ended and Toronto. I mean off paper. Toronto I look like a threat but they were second in the east. I mean they're second in the east today so I don't I don't know if I could really figure out with. His team was a clear-cut favorite. I mean let's just say if Janas rusting that totally puts Milwaukee in a tough situation or if As a look like it's going to happen what if Brooklyn Gets K. E. ENTIRE E back? Then they could end up being a threat. I think there playoff team has a as of today like the seventh or eighth see but that could really just kind of throw the whole conference off. If Katie comes back I think Ben Simmons should be healthy for Philly now because he was out thing he was before they play. Or You just said you know a guy like embiid who people have questioned is his health or his in him. Been a game shape. What if he just really comes back in either a great game shape or be totally out of shape? You never know with him. You never really know all the depot. He wasn't fully healthy when he when he came back. But this has given him more time to to get in shape and Indiana is. I think they could be dangerous and actually right now if the season would start right now with the same. Indiana is ahead of Philly. So you'd have you'd have what Indiana Boston. I'm sorry Miami Indiana playoff series and a Boston Philadelphia first round. If you're not in shape for that series it's I mean it's going to be I mean just the Public. Backlash is going to be tough because yeah it would be tough. I think though that if Philadelphia were to be fully healthy I think they have a chance to really come out of it as the number two or meeting up against whoever it is. It's going to be matching up against them. Most likely would be milwaukee. Although we'll have to wait and see where that matches up I think Philadelphia could really take advantage of this situation. Brooklyn could as well but Brooklyn has been very set on saying Hey Ka. Katie is not going to be a part of the season. I don't know as it extends and he feels better and he feels better. It's going to be very hard to keep him off the court if he truly wants to be there. Yeah which by the time the season starts. It's going to be a full calendar year. Since the injury and among has a full calendar year with an a torn Achilles Wesley Matthews came back in like eight or nine months so right before the season ended there are a lot of videos washing sale lap there were video surfacing of Katie playing and he looked good. I mean of course. You can't simulate basketball shaped like I said and you know there's nobody plan physical defense on them but I wonder if if this were an Olympic year which it is but if they were still having Olympics in the season ended at his normal time and Brooklyn was finished in April would take the plate in the Olympics. Yeah that's that's good question and so if you say well yeah I think would have play then that means he could probably play in the playoffs and stand with Klay Thompson. Also even though we talk about the west side another time so I think that can really just kind of throw things off in the east. It could it very well could and it's something I would like to see. I would like to see if you can't come back. If he's healthy I think he should be allowed to play. I don't think it should be. It doesn't serve any purpose him sitting more on the sidelines. If he's ready to go and play five on five basketball because it's just going to help get into shape and any contribution he can make for you now. That's not pushing it over extending it like what? We saw last in the middle of the finals. Because I was the enemy finally clearly was not ready at one hundred percent but if he is now then there's no reason why even if the Brooklyn just gets eliminated in the first round just the game action for him would go along way helping him towards what. We're GONNA see next season because if the season starts in July ash which means it's probably going to end in late August maybe early September then a next. The next season won't start until what? Christmas is what we're hearing so Katie will be out like eighteen months without playing if he doesn't come back. That's a pretty long time. I guess for you know for his purpose. He may say well at least one hundred percent but it just seems like he's GonNa be out a whole full calendar year if he doesn't finish up this season and that would be rough next year. You want to get some of the rust off. If it isn't extended playoff run for Brooklyn that he's a part of then. You're you're wiping off a lot of the rust off of him. But if you're only going to go ahead and allow him to play come. What that say What Tom suggested what we're hearing mostly that it would be Christmas start. I mean that's a long time. That's a long time for anyone. Katie Lebron or anybody to be out that long a time and expect them to be anywhere near sharp coming. That part of the season and for personal reasons or selfishly. I hope he does come back and I'm not sure we're Kyrie's his rehab but I would like to see I would like to see both of them come back. That will add a little bit more drama and excitement to the crazy situation that we're going through and if Brooklyn is the seventh seed and they play Toronto in the first round. I think that'd be interesting match that I mean I think we're all GonNa Watch basketball anyway due to lack of options but I think it would just add a little bit more to to the Games so I personally hope him. Mccurry can come back. I don't think it's happening. I don't think as possible but I think it would be good basketball on TV. It would be good for the league and it would also be. Yeah moneywise obviously when it comes down it we were talking about earlier money money money but it would just be good for the league and gain interests new in gain interest beyond that. I watch. I mean everybody would go ahead and WANT TO WATCH THAT FIRST GAME BACK. But it's what you do after that first game to sustain an audience and having key in Cairo back having Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons at one hundred percent having the individuals. Let's say like even just a few games would Klay Thompson and Steph curry back once again. Playing a couple of games together just create enough interest just to have that back would probably be. We would go a long way to help solidify the NBA once again. Because we've seen over the course before the coronavirus hit the ratings. Were down for the League overall. Yeah even though. I kind of have my suspicions about that simply because I think I don't know if they're really factored in effect that people are cutting the cord and more people are watching online than they are TV. So I mean the ratings may be down but I don't think interest in basketball is down I just think people are finding different ways to watch it. I'm hopeful that the NBA will go ahead and make the right decisions and we will get to see basketball once again in late July and hopefully with that as well we can see players like key Kyri and so many other players that have been injured or were questionable at that point in time when the League stopped we can hopefully see them play once again and finish out the season strong or as strong as he can. Under those circumstances totally agree totally league once again. I'm on with my good friend. Rafeal Barlow from NBA draft junkies. You gotTA check out his entire experience including his podcast his youtube channel and his great site. 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So you have a great great video there on your Youtube page about Europe players. Not Getting enough love from. I guess fans out here and we've seen this over the course of the past few years about when European players are drafted that the because these fans don't know them or you haven't studied up on them they go ahead and automatically reject them. I mean KRISTAPS Porzingis I think is probably the poster child for this all to happen When he got vociferously booed out of the building when he was drafted by the Knicks. And we've seen where that went from there. I mean he's been a great player when he's not injured and even though he's not on the Knicks. Now he's still has a player that was very worthy of its draft position. So I want to hear your thoughts if you can expound them I people if you can after you listen to our show here please if you can check out his great video on his youtube page on the specific subject but I want to hear you expound. Your thoughts even more as far as why? European players don't get enough in the NBA draft. Well in my opinion a lot of it is just directly related to the average fan been unfamiliar with with the players and the question I proposed on my channel was if Chilean hey had grew up in the states and we were familiar with him from his. A background and Lamelo ball grew up in France Germany. Or whatever and with the with the views be different for like Lamelo. I Have Killian Haze over Lamelo. And that's just my opinion but it's just a huge gap or divide between how most people feel about the two players while I think if you ask. Nba Personnel People Scout. The gap isn't as wide as it is among the fans. Sunday's shows and these shows are that gap is a lot getting getting a lot narrower and our between Killian Hayes and Lamelo ball right but in the fans it's huge it's humongous divide and I think it all just goes into Lamelo amd we've been familiar with for years. He's kind of been in the basketball spotlight for like the last five years. I mean we literally saw him grow up. We've seen them. When he played Chino Hills. We saw you know when he went to Lithuania Australia. We've seen him grow up having a facebook channel and a brother and dad that you know proceed. You helps a lot but I just think why just I let Killian Hazel better a little bit more than I like. Lamelo and but you know I got a lot of flack on my on my youtube page and emails when I had Hayes going number two Mitra and Lamelo number five. So that's why I propose the question but it's it's not new. It's kind of like with Luke I remember when he first came out. You know you heard all the talks of. He's too slow not athletic Eric enough then there are even. It felt like a lot of it was nitpicking. Like I remember there was one article came out and I WANNA say from a pretty well known reputable website or whatever and the article systems like Luca. Danni wall he won't work out for any teams so then I started seeing on the comments. He Scared I. I remember telling people while the reason. He's not working out because he still in season like the European season. I mean the your league ends and probably mid May but you still have your domestic leagues that end until mid June and I wanna stay in the case of the agency be late June so and I think that particularly year his season ended. He wanted the championship in the Spanish Louis. And he had to fly right from that last game to draft but the the perception was you know he scared he's not gonNA show out of work for teams then. They're also had articles saying that he hasn't declared for the draft jet unlike its midseason like even though college players. We assume they're coming out. You've never stay at least either. I don't recall seeing a college players. Say I'm declaring for the draft in December distraction during the season. But I just feel like there's a a media bias going on and they were doing little things just Kinda like pick at him and question is hard question. His toughness comparisons to dark on. I feel like it's unfair. I feel that if a guy goes to and he doesn't pan out as NBA player. He's considered a bust. We don't consider the next Duke player to be a bust while I think European players will always be compared to the guys who didn't make it as opposed to the ones who did. Yeah for everyone you as you were saying. Darko militants and Nicholas Ski Excuse view the Yes the name that will always live in my brain. Even though I can't say it properly about their failures the you always forget about the others who have succeeded. I mean just in Dallas. You have one of the greatest players of all time that that played for the Mavericks. I mean it's People. Were talking about him because what drafted. What Seventh Eighth? I think if he was like a flip flop between Robert Tractor trailer I think in the great to get Novitsky. Yeah so but even my other guys like I want to say you talk about guys been compared to your European players in maybe. I don't maggots unfair to bring up the race thing but I never hear bout rudy. Gobert you know like you. Don't you never hear like a a big being compared to a Rodeo pair or or even the honest John was the? Mvp local is rookie of the year. Go Bare Defensive. Player of the these are thing European players. So you never hear about that. You still hear about darker skew's really Yang vastly a few other guys. You hear about bender but you never hear about a say legal bear. I mean Nick. Petunias had a good career. Evan forty ethic is he's he's not an all star but he's going to play thirteen fifteen years via a high rotation guy he's been good. I mean there's other guys like Siaka him in being is what you're saying it is yeah. I know you don't want to say it. I don't want to say it but it's there is play as day you you could say it's not there but it is there. I mean the only time that those players ever got comparisons when it comes to the dropped okay. Let's say like a chat Ford or somebody. That point in time was saying Jonathan to me. Plays like ex player or things of that nature but it doesn't stay with them like these other players and it doesn't stay with them like we've seen from these failures because most of these failures that are memorialized or remembered by US in history seemed to be of one race over the other. It's there's a common theme. There's a common thread thing because Jaanus I don't hear his name ever brought up as as being a European player you know he is. We call them the Greek freak. We know that he's you know. He represents Greece. But when you hear about European play and you know just don't hear about him like I say you hear about the guys did it make it and then I also think that sometimes if you are an international player if you played in the US high school system he went to college in the state. Then you just kind of locked into being an American like the address. Eytan is from the promise of Buddy Hill. You know. Those guys aren't necessarily Americans they can't represent the US and international play but because we're familiar with them and they went to Arizona in Ohio. They don't get thrown into the whole non-american box. That of the guys have been put in same thing with Puerto Rican of corrective is there was a Puerto Rican superstar. Could he represent the country or no? That's the that's the thing. I'm not sure because I don't even think like because they usually have their their own representation. I guess mostly I mean berea would never make one of the teams. But even like Karl Anthony towns. If I'm not mistaken he can't represent the US because he played for the Dominican contain I want to like four or five years ago so I don't think he can represent the US. That's like you said I it. It's it's they're I mean you know you want to go ahead and skirt around it. But it's there and yes. The high profile failures are of a certain ethnic origin. comes to European players but overall like I said when it comes down to your thoughts your thoughts were really just spot on the subject and European players as a whole whether of any race it seemingly they don't get enough love period when it comes to Denny. Evita for instance. Go ahead talk about him. I mean if he gets picked a great percentage of the NBA fans out there from. Let's say the US primarily probably going to say who's that he's going to be key and he's been really high on your list. He's I think you've had him close to your if dot right there at your top five right there on the five six area and for some other people as well. I've seen him a little fluctuate here and there but he's somewhat very high up on your list but people are going to say who in the heck's that if he gets drafted that high up yeah? I haven't gone to the Knicks. So you can imagine. Knick fans are just on my neck. He's terrible. Why like learn from two thousand fifteen like it wasn't a long ago but I get it. You Know New York Fans WanNA point guard and they missed out in the last year so they want. Lamelo really bad. I think it would be a good fit for them personally. But yeah. Maybe he's just because they're not familiar with him and I think that he will get booed on draft night if he gets picked by the Knicks. Especially if you know a more recognized by more recognizable name is sitting in the draft room. But that's just basketball. I mean I just I just don't like the fact that guys like Ginobili in Tony. Parker Dirk are never really mentioned. Asked successes you hear more about the failures of the guys that were from. Europe. That didn't make it. I mean poor Darko. He's he's always going to be. I mean every player's going to be compared to darker I'm like look at Yokich Yokich is and he's an NBA player. And you don't really hear about how successful. He's been as a European player compared to an American completed. I was drafted ahead of him. That's funny 'cause Yokich will have a great career. I think but he might not be remembered. Twenty five years after he leaves the game as much as Darko will be remembered. And did you know that there's lack There's a dark goals. No Yokich is brother was in dark entourage when he came to the states. So my I'd have to send you the Article One day but yeah I read it and I was just like crazy that there that part of the reason why they say you'll get successful is because his brother spent a Lotta time in the state and he went dark all and you know they talked about how they he struggled fitting in with a Detroit team and he partied and you know just kind of made up for struggling adjusting to the culture and then by the time they got back to Serbia. Yokich older brother realized that his younger brother had turned into a prospect and so he moved to inner with him but everything that they did with Darko and they're younger. They make sure that they did not do with Yoga too. So it's like part of the reason why he transformed his body and it's an interesting read. Just how there's a connection between the two very interesting data just so we could also advise him what not to do to get in those type situations so that actually It's good right there for you but yes I mean. There's some tough questions and there are some things that you want you can say or you can ask about but if people get a chance they need to check out. Nba Draft Junkies Your Youtube page and checkout that specific video and then all while they're there they can also check out all the prospects but understand why European players they for for a great deal of they are playing at somewhat of a competent enough level. Where they can go ahead and get that platform to succeed in the NBA. It's just amazing. The lack of not understanding but just the lack of appreciation. Like we've seen from KRISTAPS PORZINGIS. Who I I knew was going to be a good player. I was actually hoping the Lakers would pick him at number two that year he had come out instead of Dangelo and could have played out a little differently. If that would have been the case. But you know it's it's hindsight's twenty twenty just like I said. European players should be evaluated on a par equal to their American counterparts. I agree I think on one hand. I will say slow tougher simply because in Europe. Some guys don't necessarily get a chance to really play like they would in college so I mean Luca was a guy that he played a lot So I think you knew what you were getting with him but I think there are cases where a guy dominated the junior levels. He played on a League team. He did not really get a chance to play so I think that was the case with bender. He was drafted highly based off a high played. And the you know the junior teams but macabre. He didn't really get a lot of minutes so they didn't really get a chance to compare him or just Kinda see how he will compare against MBA level athletes. Aglow in. I think in some cases it may help guys may hurt guys but I feel like there's owners that don't want to take a European player number one and number two. I mean in my opinion. The only reason why Luca fell as far as he did. Because I am thinking that you heard about Sabra wanting Eighteen because of their Arizona connection. But I in my opinion I could be totally wrong. It's just my opinion but I feel like and King Organization were like. We don't necessarily want the backlash if it doesn't work out. That's that's the one I'll never figure out with blood a it was there. They have a relationship in even with Phoenix. The coach had a relationship Luca. And Yeah I just you know syllabi more power for the Mavericks. They've got they got the pick they wanted. And it's worked out very well for them so we could give more love to Europe or at least better understand when you evaluate these players that are best for your teams as fans out there. Just go ahead and not automatically dismissed these. European players because on a lot of occasions. They do work out. But you know it's interesting with my site. If I post a video of a European player they generally get more views than my American players. I noticed that you actually pointed that out to me and I I looked at that and I'm like yeah not even close but I think it Kinda helps in a sense because when people are seeing these guys in England trap boards. There's not a lot of video. Why any American prospect type their name. You may find videos when they were in ninth grade. You might find a you clips. You're GONNA find plenty of people in their college clips so the European players aren't as well known even in their own country. They're not. There's not a lot of youtube videos. It's not like in the states. Like if you go to a Nike deal game. There may be like nine videographers on the baseline filming while you go to a you know a Next Generation Tournament game and overseas. And you got a lot of the top high level European prospects planning the League. There may not be anybody filming. I mean there may be a livestream of the game so I think that's where I can probably be effective. It is just having more videos on my sight of the European players and maybe help the American fans become more familiar with them but I still think just because they're in Europe and is not allowed of familiarity as far as the name. There's GonNa be a bias. We'll be back with more of the Lakers faust break podcast meeting an edge for your fantasy football team listening to the guys at insides force. Fantasy football for insight. That will help you reach your league championship. That's incest fantasy football chicken today on your favorite podcast but my friends you gotta go ahead and check out what he's doing today. Mr Raphael Barlow on NBA draft Hunky. You get a deeper insight not only on just the European but also the mystic prospects as they gear up towards the NBA draft and one thing. Everybody has to remember in this draft. This is not considered a strong draft. And I want to stress that so you're going to go ahead and do a lot of work as a general manager to find and choose the best fits for your organization because you don't have the greatest telephone of world to draw from but I'm starting to. I don't want to say it's a draft. It's not the worst drought. It's not twenty thirteen. I think we'll twenty. Thirteen came out with some pretty decent players. If I'm not mistaken but I just don't know if you're going to get a I think to let me say twenty. Thirteen is considered a bad draft. Because you didn't have a superstar on in the top. Five earliest with the thought was no soup and so I think what this draft. I think there's GonNa be quite a few guys that have long careers. It may not be high on. You might not get Zion or or Karl. Anthony towns have that caliber of player. You know going early but at the same time. I think that you're going to have quite a few guys that end up playing ten twelve years. I have long careers in complementary players. But you know drafts judged by all stars and superstars but I feel like there's some drafts where you have one or two guys that are really really good and then you look at the lottery and there's three or four guys out of the League within five years so I don't know district will have that. I'll tell you what there's no better place to check out exactly if any of these players or all of these players are many of these players can actually fit the bill for these teams then. Nba Draft Junkies. So before we head on out and before I ask you to share some last thoughts on Jerry Sloan what you go ahead and give everybody an update what's going on. Nba Draft Junkies. Pretty much designed just content. I think I WANNA do a little bit more fan interaction on my site and so that's when I did the video about the European bias. Hundred people commented. So That's pretty fun to me I need to do another mock draft fifteen to thirty. I should star working on that tonight. May Have it up. Well I definitely have it up before this podcast is on the air and then from there I think have tires halpern. I have video of him coming out soon. I haven't decided who I'll do next. I'm thinking about doing maybe feel the dome. There's another guy that people may not be familiar with. Who was once considered a lottery? Pick coming into the season. Stock has kind of fallen. Start think that made you feel him. Try to him or JD. Mcdaniels somebody that we've talked about on this podcast. I really like even though the talent and the numbers don't seem to add up. I wanted to deeper dive and to wise production as matches talent skill set. So I think those are the next. Guy's I'll do I think jade it's a matter of here and here if he wants it and he really wants to get it. I think that's I think it's just it's all about. Does he have the motor? Does he have the knee? He have the desire to go ahead and be successful because the talent to me what. What I've seen is definitely there. Yeah Munition no question about talent in how gifted he is at his height. I am the ball but again you know just the production just did not did not match so funny that Washington has gotten all these great You know prospects in in recent years but their teams have not ultimately ended up with a successful record. Lorenzo Romar I think the coach was able to go ahead and and recruit all these players but he's never been able to get them to produce their at a high enough level what their actual guest status had dictated before they entered the the NCAA. Yeah I don't think roll my recruited the last two guys Stewart and mcdaniels. He's somewhere now. There's never used Arizona. Last year was after Foltz full last year. Okay 'cause I know he got termed. I didn't win. You got termed. Yeah but he did have Chris and votes two guys back guys that were lottery picks and they. I don't think they have one. Ncwa game in years. It's got imagine that I mean just all this talent going. They're just trying to find exactly with these with these talented players drive. I mean it seemingly with before with on Yucca Congo. It seems like he has that ability. He has that want. He has that desire but he may not possess enough as much talent as jaded. Mcdonald's it's just that dynamic it's just you know do you want it or or do you not. Yeah I think he's just a late bloomer. Who Amando he played. Houston a USA basketball circuit or or. He did have some hype coming in. But when you think of Chino hills you don't think of him thought of the ball brothers and he was on that team which is crazy that that one team could end up with three guys that are lottery picks one high school team. That's amazing that's amazing. Well my friend has been great episode. I truly appreciate you taking the time to speak to me before we had an out the late Jerry Sloan. He passed away recently. Nba Coach for the Utah. Jazz for several years was a thorn in the Lakers side because he had such good teams never quite got over the Hump as a championship team. But still many years success playoff runs for many many years had a lot of great success with and without Stockton Malone so what are hear thoughts a little bit on Jerry. Sloan on the way out. Yeah he was a guy that will always be remembered as a just a heart. Who's winning coach? I think there is a little saltiness. And how he went out with the hope Dan Williams thing but I was idea. Read that whatever issues that they had that. I underground and they made up for it so that was good here but I think you always think that he left to gain earlier than he was supposed to. He did go on his own terms because the way the media is that he left because he was unhappy with the player. So I didn't like that part of it because it just seemed like he was forced out or the new generation of players. He couldn't handle them but I said it was good to hear that whatever issues they had they made up the record with each other before he passed and honestly. I just didn't know that he was already has some health issues but I didn't know that he had deteriorated to to that point. And you know you always see him. As being the lively fiery coach of the jazz and I just couldn't imagine him not having a same energy and the twenty twenty. It's been rough. I mean we've lost three hall of famers in less than six months so I really hope that there's no more. I don't know if the basketball world can take any anymore. Just these untimely untimely deaths but it is also the timing of. It was pretty interesting because his name had just started coming up again after. Everybody's watching the last dance and the that whole jazz team was back in our thoughts and our minds and a week later. He passed this but basketball legend obviously hall of Famer. He's loved in Chicago and Utah. Way Most of his credit Chicago so just another tough loss for the basketball world and community. But he's a break coach. This see was and he should always be remembered like you said as a great player and a great coach and contributions to basketball. Should never be understated. We're GONNA Miss Jerry. Sloan as he passed away this week at the age of seventy eight. Twenty twenty has been definite rough year my friend. But we're going to get through it we're GONNA get through it together. Everybody listening out there. Please stay healthy. Stay safe you to my friend. Please stay healthy and stay safe. I'm GonNa Talk to you soon. Hopefully as soon as we can. You gotta go ahead and preview the western conference to see if anybody can go ahead and Go and maybe matchup against the Lakers or the clippers. I definitely want to hear your thoughts on that. It's going to be an interesting conversation. I think as we get closer and closer to an NBA season. Hopefully eight to ten weeks away. Were thinking that might happen. Because we're hearing the rumors a little bit louder and louder and louder so I'm definitely willing to hear your thoughts again as much as you want to give them and not only on that the NBA draft. That also has to be solidified at some point of time. So we're definitely looking forward to hearing more thoughts on that and your thoughts on basketball life period. It's just so great to have you on the show and I can't thank you for being part of the Lakers fast-break podcast Huh.

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Sep 30, 2020 - Hour 3 - Former Players Hate LeBron James

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

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Sep 30, 2020 - Hour 3 - Former Players Hate LeBron James

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Radio Find Your local station for the odd couple at Fox sports radio DOT COM or stream it live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching F S are. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio It is the couple I. Am Chris He is robbed. We're coming you live from the go Fox Sports Radio Studios Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on your car insurance visit Geico. Dot Com for a free rate quote at the bottom of the hour as we do every worship Wednesday, it's the hot seat. And we got one of our favorite punching bags. Jason McIntyre. Rob, you know a lot of times. The listeners will notice a Lotta Times where we do the hot seat. You know for one of the topics usually or it may be half the time. You're I end up being on the hot seat, right? Right but with McIntyre. Every time he's on the hot seat fall three. Every single time everybody else right. because his takes crazy and you know we've beaten up on him before on undisputed and we love having him here because he. You know he's easy. Easy Prey. Let's put it that way. All right. Here we go. Rob. Scottie Pippen. Scotty. Likes to run his mouth and we liked that that's what we always. Right up, right we talked to bribe. We saw Tom you gotta say something otherwise they'll replace you okay as right. If you just get up there and you're you're praising your friends and you're not calling it like it is right everybody's doesn't play well all the time. Coach well, all the time, call him out, call them out. It doesn't have to be personal guy makes a bad play. You say made a bad play. Chris. Coached in put the right players in the right circumstance say it that's all strategy we're talking. It's it's still play on the court nothing personal no family no kids no wife. No. What they look like is none of that. This it's okay. So Go hit robber and a Lotta guys can't figure that out and it costs them Chris like they. They can't stay in the business. So Scotty I did he make Pick Rob Gee? I don't know that he made a pig. No he just said that he'd have you say Miami has the edge where he gets that from. But he said Miami has edged. He thinks they've got more offensive weapons that they'll be able to throw at the Lakers. But here's what we want to get to the meat or big thing and he said. He's said I don't take away. I. Don't take nothing away from the Lakers and Lebron. Going to his ten finals. He meaning Lebron still has to prove he can lead a team himself I. Think F Davis has show he's more valuable to them on the offensive of end. But I think Miami has more offensive weapons as I said, they'll be able to throw at La now rob I. I'm sorry. Scotty Pippin is just flat out wrong. Scottie Pippen I don't know if he's making up for the time when he said that Lebron was better than Jordan remember. Last Long. Quickly? Yes. But. My called take. Do, what tax at least do come into another golf out those joins that come to your house for you and your. Know not a free pair, right? Right. But come on rob. Even skip. Even and your urine that you know you're viewed as Lebron. I know you don't like the were hater your viewed as a Lebron antagonised. Let's put it that way. I'll take that. Long. Yeah. But even you it Mick Scotty. DID YOU NOT SEE CLEVELAND? Did. He not lead a team to the champion the-the up prove it. By lead. In Cleveland to the championship. So I. think that's ridiculous to say Anthony Davis more in the offensive in then Lebron I mean, yes he's the leading score. WHO's getting audie assist who set their who's running the offense, and still give your rally to fewer points than a D- A. So. This is what I want to get to rob before you chime in. Scotty is not this is a pattern for some reason. Like Scotty Pippin. Obviously, I'd say belittling Lebron. Paul Pierce. Tells US Lebron is not in his top five or top top seven at least topped top not in his top seven. Kenny Smith says what Brian was not in his top ten. And Charles Barkley doesn't have Lebron is what top five Top. Five, until we got. The, bronze nine, the top five pipping Lebron's never led a team to a championship Paul Pierce not in the top seven all time Kennedy Smith not in the top ten i. here's what I'm doing our rob. Y. The disrespect. Come in and I think it's disrespect this as not in the top ten. Come on. Where's this coming from from these ex players? And here's the part Chris and that's really weird. There is something there because we're not talking about. Aaron is rob is as Thomas has him second I think to Corinne Or maybe I maybe. and. And even Isaiah but here's the problem Chris. This is what we talk about all time. I think this is why players can't always objective in the media because. They have a stake in it. Do you know what I mean. Right the Isaiah thing. He'll never pick Michael Jordan. Hates my I'm serious I mean look. At him off the dream for all the accolades Isaiah have even me. I'm upset that Isaiah wasn't known the Dream Team I would me All the time it's just not because it diminishes. Absolutely great career fifty all time greatest. We talked about over and over, but but this is this is the pattern Chris. And it's shocking for guy who put in so much work everybody says his teammates like them or love them whatever term you want to use. And could wind up being the all time leading scorer. It's got all these other accolades how assist right and all the other things. But there's some there's some rub their that players don't respect and we've seen it with the greats who refused to even acknowledge him in. They were picked Kobe nine out of ten times. These guys will pick Kobe over Lebron. We have talked about how we're a little bit surprised. How most that? We've talked to yeah not all nine out of ten but but most. Players ex players we've talked to have say Kobe. And here's the other part. Win. The players finally got a chance to vote for the All Star game and we know Chris just an exhibition. It at the end of the world a done you know. It doesn't wait or tell you how great you are not. But I can't remember the exact number over a hundred and fifty players. Left Lebron James name off the altar nuts alad doubts Chris asked seriously. Right now come on what is. He should have not been left off one ballot, right? How is that possible? So when people always push back and say always do media day broad. WHIZ. SKIP, bayless, Rapport All that Ask, yourself why Scottie Pippen, Kenny Smith Charles Barkley, we could go on a Paul Pierce it aim one. It's a Lotta guys want why? Now. Why Pierce as you alluded to we know Paul Pierce. Yes. Was E gotTa Act, it was a contemporary. Does? Those. Latest Lebron right right. He beat Lebron. The browns younger, right And Paul I don't know if I told you the story. But when you know after the Lakers, won the championship in two thousand, the Lakers Celtics with the big three. Won The championship and no eight and Pierce who was the finals vp he said that he thinks he's the best player in the world we lead their team to a championship finals be. I'm the best player in the world and I said I don't know if I don't think it was I was even tweeting at that point but I said. I don't even think he's in the top ten. Yeah. You mentioned net and then he got in contact he texted me you ain't in my top ten local reporters it it was funny to be laying I local. owned. But so Paul I think has an axe to grind with Lebron. And you know like you said, they were rivals they were contemporaries they have some wars, and so I get get it I do. But. I've robbed the only thing I can imagine this might stem from. Is that players don't like at least somebody's players, these legends and older players. They don't like the way Lebron. Did it. You know Michael Jordan obviously took a more redone franchise and build them into a dynasty. The players of that era stayed put bird magic. Karim forced his way people forget he forced his way from Milwaukee and is with the Lakers but for the most part guys stay put. and. That's only thing I can point to because obviously Lebron did go to Miami he got criticized heavily. So. Other than that I can't imagine these are looking at Lebron play and say he's not one of the top ten of all time. So I just think even if his subconscious. They. Don't respect that. That's that's all I can think of is to why some of these guys are. shortchanging I have to I have to agree with you because it's not like he doesn't play hard. He doesn't put in the work You know what? I mean things come easy to some people Chris and people can other players could not respect that you know what I mean like he does do all the things you're supposed to do. So that's not it. Teammates like them you don't hear people saying you know he's selfish or he did. So he's that. For the most part. So it has to be that that they didn't like that he felt. Not An. Understand, it's not being against free agency free agency is always been around. Tim Duncan and and. Grant Hill almost went to Orlando, right? Yeah they were age. Eighty yeah. Exactly. Grants not that. It's the way that it Kinda was manipulated. and He. Reports him. Yeah. Exactly and it's different from. Boston is not the same Boston. Had to give up players to to get. To get players in exchange. So it looked looked at differently kristen tim people joining via free agent whereas nothing giving up that's the only difference player generated and I get I get it in that. You Know Boston was stacked the Lakers. Kobe and he had assault by that point in buying. Remember Andrew Bynum was a good player at that point. And Lebron couldn't get a second guy to Cleveland. And so he he just built what he needed to win and obviously now at all the rage and durant did it. In. Collided it and so. Yeah but I that's all I. can think of rob I can't imagine what else it could be a seven, seven, ninety, nine Fox the finals are underway, and for those like Rob Parker who picked the upset good start. Two and a half minutes in the Miami Heat up eight to three on the LA. Lakers are a seven, ninety, nine on Fox. What do you think is the reason why so many former players like to take digs at Lebron be sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with Chris Broussard and rob. Parker Weekdays at seven. PM Eastern Four PM Pacific on Fox sports radio and the iheartradio APP. General Dynamics has supported our nation's exploration of space for the last sixty years. Now, GDP, it's combining the latest technology innovations to deliver enterprise scale IT systems for a new era of space missions. 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This case were wondering that was rob Parker's idea for that shop talk to. That was it. Look. I agree robbed at they're gonNA vote we want them to vote what everybody to vote matter where that's all that's. All right. Let's get these calls eight, seven, seven, ninety, nine or Fox Why do you guys think that some of the Ol- heads? We think I mean I don't know what else to call them but shots Lebron he's not your top ten Kennedy. Smith. He's not your top five Charles Barkley. He's not in your top seven Paul Peers. He hasn't led a team to a championship. Scottie Pippen what. So what do you think why? Why is this happening? Very, good question it is it is. It was it's awfully amazing. It really is for guy who's accomplished so much Chris you know I I mean it's weird one thing to say okay you pick Michael Jordan but you're leaving the my top Ted I mean that's a deliberate like like I'm disrespecting you. Yes expecting you Russ what I'm Doin'. Ryan in Cincinnati you're on the odd couple, Fox sports radio, and if they could have gotten one hit today, they probably would have won ten to one they. Couldn't get a hit Ryan today. You're too bad too bad for them on the Yankees Fan I grew up in New York so. For me. As, far as the Lebron man, it's simple to me I, see it on every chat on facebook whatever it's the old guard back in my day crowd the eighties and nineties players walked up Hill school both ways and snow five miles. They don't want to admit that today's NBA is bigger faster stronger more athletic. you see some of these videos of Dude Garden. Jordan. They were hot garbage and wouldn't see the court nowadays they don't want to admit. But someone from there you know that's not from their era is as talented and in. Dominant. Lebron. Diani issue I have with that is Paul Pierce played with Lebron. It's not being hold on hold on Brian. I'm just going to make it's not just the old school guys and Kris knows this. He's talked to a lot of NBA players who privately say. Broadcasted but they still pick would rather have colby. And I agree it's not every single guy. But I think you guys made the point earlier. Paul Pierce went head to head with him in the playoffs and has reason you know just like Isaiah and Michael hated each other back when they were going at it in the playoffs. So it's not everybody's not an end all be all entered, but I see it all the time online people arguing you know they'll never admit that the players now are you Kevin durant seven one could play point guard Patrick Ewing is the same size as the rent and you couldn't handle the ball like I mean that's just one example. All right. That's a good car he high when the hard on the old school cats as far as their skills. Or lack owning the only difference is to modern day play defense back. Then you could touch people. Yeah. There's a little difference with the game. Your players are by this is what the players today more athletic. shoot better. And handle the ball better. The players then play more team ball better. And it's a different game and they've grown up with the differently. It doesn't mean that if Michael Jordan came up in this era where you couldn't touch him defensively and they shot more threes, he wouldn't have shot more threes career he would have shot the three well. Not Saying you've been Klay Thompson either been above average and that's why he could average forty like you say couldn't touch you really. Easy as it is to get to the basket eight can't touch anybody used to be able to have a hand on his back and open when you got. It was six seventy in the paint, right? So we'll want to. Get all along. Hey, hey, you kids get off. My Lawn but. I know we're sounded like. trysted in Des Moines, Iowa you're on the couple Fox sports radio what's up, Tristan. What's going on? Man. Much I just WANNA say I somewhat agree with the last caller. And I feel like some of the people choose Kobe because he's a twitter I. So he played a little bit with Jordan. He's a little older so they have that preference. But when you hear Kennedy Smith Charles Barkley, some of these older players who disrespect the bribe but not put him in the top ten I'm starting to feel like they're era. Is filling a little threatened. You got new players coming in Katie Lebron, tyree, all those players coming in that are gotta be removing some of these players from the top. Also, you know kind of discrediting like Kenny Smith at his era so he's just trying to stay relevant. Not Look if they do. I. Think Rob. Top seventy five that'll be the next team. Which would be your at twenty twenty, two I think we'll see what things are like at that point but if that day. All the top fifty guys might not make the top seventy five. You know yeah, I don't know it's GonNa be if they do it i. Don't think they'll do a top fifty I think seventy five because it'll be seventy, five years like they did fifty at fifty years. If they did a top fifty again, rob definitely a lot of those top fifty won't be in it. No would change because you'd have to add some of these new stores and he's somebody somebody asked to come out I mean. There's no doubt about it Let's go to Gregory in Birmingham you on the couple Fox sports radio. What's up? Gregory. How you gentlemen doing what's up man? Great. Man We appreciate the work out doing and thank drink that you put out for the sports and people and everything I just coming on Lebron James I think he's You appreciate it and I think he's He's the goat now. You're looking at ten finals appearances. He's got makes teammates better he's. Like. You said earlier I mean this guy's carotene that you don't even know the name you don't even remember the names of the guys you know but I think a lot of these players now they're either jealous. Or and they just under appreciated. Disrespectful. Jordan, even though he's lost six finals I i. I, just find that I think winning is a major factor when you're talking about because it's not just compiling stats and people act like Jordan doesn't have stats, right? He's the. Leading by just one six. That's that's why he wants six but he he's ten years in a row to scoring leader quizzes the all time. The highest scoring average. Yeah and the. All Time of all tabular season two. Why even will? So I think people sometimes they don't understand that Jordan has all those a lot of stats as well. It's not just a six rings. All right is the couple Chris around. We got j Mac also known as the couples punching bag coming up next. But First Fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation catch all of our shows at Fox sports, radio DOT COM, and within the iheartradio APP search F.. 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Says that Tyler hero on your TV screens right now is so good and so perfect for today's NBA that the heat should not include him in any deal for Jaanus. J. Maquette thirty seconds state your case for the grew. Thank you for the Great Introduction Raji I mean listen it's ones Avi Tyler hero is a budding star in this league. He's Jj rettig with a handle. He's Jj Redick Swag you do not trade away tyler hero. We know Yana wants out of Milwaukee. Okay. That franchise's dumpster fire right now five players over the age of thirty Chris Middleton number two. So the heat are GonNa? Make a play for honest they cannot include time. He's off he's untouchable enroll. Tyler. What are you talking about for? Is Who's won back to back. MVP's WHO's improved every year are you kidding me who led the Milwaukee? Bucks to the best record in the NBA come on Jason Stop in a prisoner of the moment. Tyler hero see this is why I dominate. This is why dominate on the show Rob Parker the king of flip flopping. Okay. Who cares about the regular season youngest would trade anything every accolade he's ever gotten to get to the finals where Tyler here always now they're they're Miami because of Tyler Hero thirty seven points in one game. Has, no. Landmark playoff game tyler hero has one game that better than any playoff game Janas has ever had. Jason you're forbidden talk NBA from now on. This is ridiculous. That's how bad that take is. No I like tyler hero he's a nice young player. He'll I think he'll probably make an all star game or two. But yeah. Yeah this could be one of the best players of all time. To finals. Dollars one of the first round. We've ever had on the hot Z.. Is just. So blasphemous, I think round number one goes to the I. Cup. It was crazy regarding. That kind of go for a gentleman. Couple, but you guys like trump and Biden. League Kids Rick Are we move on now taking number two Jason McIntyre and the archetypal Jason says that a wide Leonard is nothing more than a system layer. We'll let him explain you got thirty seconds state your case. It's not a knock Chris I and Robert it's not a knock colitis system player. Right? He leaves the Spurs. What happens they're still a playoff team he leaves the raptors. What happens Oh they're the second best team in the east. He's nothing like Lebron Kawai will never be on Lebron's level. When Lebron leaves the French, I go in the tank they go right to the seller instantly Kawai leaves it'll be fine, and by the way he's a load management fraud who's never been a superstar in this league. He's a nice guy who won out final deputy with the entire warriors got her never while. You Watch. And what system Jason Really what system because we Undergrad Popovich, he played when Tony Parker, the high pick and roll was the system he fit in at one find those MVP and all those guys leave Dunkin Parkinson. Nobly, then they go to ice eyeso- to feature Kawhi Leonard put the ball in his hands and he was fine. Then he goes Toronto plays in a different system with Nick nurse wins the championship he comes to the clippers. Differ system with. Doc. Plays Well, what's this? As well, the system is little. What the coach says and take heed Lebron is the system, my friend Michael Jordan another guy. Great has a player and then he gets built Jackson. Can I keep going to get Phil Jackson? Pippen. In that system Jordan Excelled Lebron is the system that's like Hawaii will never Lebron's jock. Jason we'll. What are you talking about? The whole notion that wouldn't Lebron lease you know why 'cause we'll bronze the worst general manager in the NBA and they go and they put up the players around him, Tristan Thompson, and all these guys that Lebron wanted, and then you know what? When Lebron walks out, you left with that those lebrons players to prop him up and those are the guys he wanted around him. So you can't blame the organizations. lebrons has had his hand and all those teams are talking about. Very tough rounded. But let me just say guys we all live in our league giving Chris sometimes he's called collide Leonard on the streets because he's a fraud round number two goes to j Mac. Lady and the Lakers are up in the end of the first quarter hero just by the way that. Rossi. Lakers run we do. It is the hot seat the Fox radio. Fire. Stop. It here we go. The hottest ticket Americans. Save the best for last winner. Take all Jason. McIntyre says that fish are the best pets to have if you're living at home or you got thirty seconds state your case. So I got two young kids in elementary school they want a dog I, who's GonNa go walk the dog who's GonNa. Go pick up the dog poop not us. We're not getting a dog cats. They shed all over the celtics shed in your bed. No. Thank you. Fish are the best pet low maintenance, right? You just put some food in there. You GotTa go away for the weekend you dump some extra food and they're they're fine. Fish Fish Fish Baby. If I could convince my wife to get a fish tank, it's the biggest win in the McIntyre House. Twenty twenty the only fish I wanted my house is in a Pan with water. As a pet, a pet that's just polluted dirty water flow around you can't do anything with a pet fish and they die after nine days. Hey, dad what's floating in the tank? What is that? Come on that Ada pet get a dog get a cat that you could make a bond with fish you can I don't think. Let's fish die after nine days. Are you thinking about like a Goldfish you put in a bowl of water come rob step up your game. You don't know pets. Okay. Are Great. You can name them. If you get the fighting fish, you feed them and they battle and eat stuff. It's awesome which I know there's a fish fans out there and not just the band fish best pet you can have Jason Stop Fisher for people that really don't want pets you can't cut a with a fish you can't bond with fishes rob you can't play fetch with a fish. Become fish can't respond to you like a dog or a cat are you serious I? Mean why get a fish I? Do any old thing we? Can do a fish I can do that with anybody or anything I might as well be watching TV I'll be the sit there and watch somebody does women I mean that's all do a fish stopping. Very tough round to score Jay. Mak. Made some very, very good points but you know what? hotdog in my kid my daughter loves her so. Biden. Readable knows. That's what a bond a little girl her dog growing up the family unit. That's a beautiful thing. I Cook a loss but guy says, hold up let me say that. Hey, I make gambling wagers for Fox sports On the NBA Finals, I had Casey P for the game over nine and a half points. He got ten in the first quarter and I had Lakers favored by one and a half in the first quarter they went on a nineteen three. Run to end the quarter your boy just got paid almost get a nice car like. That car rob Parker I need to get on your level. We send you a more more than the car. You think you're GONNA. Get. We're GONNA, send you some blue EMU maximum pain relief right sues your wounds from this but. Our Buddy Jay Mack F s one and Fox sports radio personality host of the straight fire. With Jason, McIntyre podcast Rob and I have been on on iheartradio is a great listen. You gotTA check it out J. Mac thanks for being a good sport how he slapped later. Pretty. Then, remember that a fish with water in the pad or that was a good one and I agree I might I might stri one up tonight. All right. It's the couple Chris Rob keep it locked Fox Sports Radio Fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio DOT COM, and within the iheartradio APP search F. S. are to listen live. All is the couple Chris the ROB wrapping up a worship wins day coming to you live as always from the Geiko Fox Sports Radio Studios. And Rob. I picked Cleveland. Over the Yankees in his first round series is wildcard series. Yes. Cleveland's up for one still. They jumped all over Massa Hero Tanaka who's been a very good postseason pitcher. Hit. Him In. The first any. Yeah it's early it's only two fourth inning but yeah, the Yankees have the basis loaded with nobody out. So this'll be they just knock harass go out. Chris. So this'll be a beginning for Cleveland obviously, you don't want to give up you know what you built up not all of it at Le- I hope that you can get out of this. So this'll be in it's a long way to go obviously in this game so it'll be interesting to see Tanaka. Came in Chris would a one point seven, six era in a postseason so he's been lights out great and I, know it was raining hard but gave a couple of hits and I think there was one error in it but anyway. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see how this thing plays out. In the heat are up forty, three, forty, one about seven minutes left. In, order. In this game Chris in the heat game. I think just for them to come out and not get buried early. You know what I may where it looks like. I'm not saying that they're up by little to plenty of time before the half, but it gives you confidence as you go along if you're the underdog that you can hang with them and I think that's what that that's a good start for them. You know like. Get married now. Any point I mean, even if it's they're getting down three Oh and getting blown out in the fourth I I don't see that team quitting. They've shown they've shown got heart there well coached. So I agree with you that was good for but. This, going to be even if it's a four or five game series in the Lakers win. I think the games the Individual Games will be tough. And, so and so far. This one certainly is all right. Carson Wentz. You know he's off to a horrible start route. You know that s should boy I know but he's off even you would admit he's off to a a tragic start. Their people in Philly clambering for him to get benched, which I think is look I play around with him struggling. That's ridiculous. Come on. You paid this do with one, hundred, twenty, one, hundred, thirty, million dollars. And you're going to any was good last year especially at the end. And then you're gonNA bench him after three games. I mean come on. That's crazy. and. He said today we're not that far away. And it sounds crazy because he's playing so poorly. Buddies Right that Division Rob. and. You know I'm a data guy, but it is what it is. That's a horrible division. And glad it is. Or just gotta a left Chris Grassland Oh. It's five shower Yup. Unbelievable yeah. There it is. The Bronx bombers already home runs. Again, it was four nothing. All right and I'm sorry to interrupt you. But you know what? I'm saying That division. They're not they're far from out of it I mean, this is the Washington football team. Dow's lead it at one and two right there were only one and so. They're all. What did they? Oh. Oh two, and one zero. One right right. So here's the thing rob. I get it. We always grew up what ties like kissing your sister right as actually better than a loss. No, it any better. Could you? Joe. Which is slave, right? It's better than a loss I'm sorry I be Macho and all that if you want. A tie is better than a loss in professional sports it just is and so. But what do you think? Are you? How confident are you there wit so bounced back 'cause you got admit he's off to a horrible start has got six interceptions in three games. They don't have a win so. I can't. Say that they're often anything other than a bad star but it's still a long way to go and I'm not gonNA give up they bounce back last year they got off to an awful start and somehow won the division Chris so it's not as bad Surin considering how guys other Division is horrible I robbed the couple. As we said I got the Lakers in five rob got the heat in six. We'll see you guys tomorrow. In the District of Columbia, there are two ways to vote in the November third general election by mail or in person all registered voters will be mailed. A ballot US mail ballot dropbox is located throughout seat deposit completed ballots at vote center or mail ballots. 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Best of The Herd: 11/15/2018

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

40:46 min | 2 years ago

Best of The Herd: 11/15/2018

"Thanks for listening to the best of her podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine Pacific on Fox Sports radio and f s one find your local station for the hurt at Fox Sports radio dot com or stream it live every day on the iheartradio app by searching heard. Is the best of the herd with Colin cower on Fox Sports radio. Here we go to Thursday. This is the heard wherever you may be. And however, you may be listening live in Los Angeles. Iheartradio, Fox Sports radio and f s one joy Taylor is joining me today in a Thursday tonight Packers go to Seattle to take on the Seahawks. Loser. It's an elimination game. So it's a huge NFL game. Tonight. Cannot wait to watch my team from the Pacific northwest against Darren Rogers. He is rarely in this situation. But I want to start with the Lakers in the Bronx. Joy, I went to the game last night. Yes. He said many times today we're going to the game. And and we'll big j journalism always representing now after the third cocktail it didn't feel like journalism to me. And LeBron did talk to me, but let's not get into that stuff. Right. It's ironic that I went to the game that LeBron surpassed. Built and we always compare quarterbacks. And we always compare basketball players to me. It was always obvious is that Kobe was MJ. Kobe came into the league Emel sounded like him. Jay, they played like MJ they had the same games. But LeBron because he's the only person to ever threaten Michael Jordan is the best player of all time. And I do think analytically it's not close. And I do think he can do far more far more than Michael ever could. So I have LeBron number one all time Michael's number two. But they're both great. But that's not what this rant about. This rant is about. Lebron James has never been Michael. He's always been thirty percent. Magic thirty percent wilt and forty percent alien. I've never seen anything like him. My two takeaways from watching LeBron person number one is. He is so much better than everybody else. A six foot nine two hundred fifty seven pound forward should not also be the best ball handler. And last night the best shooter and have the best vision and be the best leader power forwards. We're supposed to physically dominate you. Lebron can do that. That's what we'll did. But when you watch LeBron Damian Lillard the second best NBA player on that floor last night, and the gap is the Grand Canyon times four bigger stronger faster last night, a better shooter than the guard. And by the way, if Tom Brady with all his passion with all his pre snap acumen. If Tom Brady had Aaron Rogers arm. Russell Wilson's feet and Cam Newton size. Imagine that that's what LeBron is LeBron just broke Wilt Chamberlain scoring records. Now, I want you to think about that LeBron's not a score. He's not he doesn't have an iconic shot like the skyhook the George Gervin finger roll he didn't play with a top point guard to get him freebie points like Karl Malone. Michael Jordan's a score Kobe's score. They should be the all-time scores. Wilt was a score Kareem with a skyhook. Lebron has none of that. He is not the flawless natural gifted shooter. He's a six nine freight train who has developed into one of the great clutch three point shooters in this league. So my first takeaway whenever I watch LeBron. And especially when I watch him in person he is so much better than everybody else. And the second thing that I've really noticed the last couple of times, I've watched them in person. He's really smart the. Game. Now comes to him. He only has to put the Cape on and save the team and go superman about twice a night. He has these sort of turbo microbursts for two or three minutes. He had them last night. And then you realize oh, he's taking things over. He's allowing the game to develop the young players to develop. And then he kind of feels like ooh, Brandon Ingram just hit a three. Oh, we just hit a to let me take over for four minutes and change the game and win it. But he only does that. Now at times he doesn't chase people down for the shot blocks. Like you used to his first six seven years in the league he is super efficient. He doesn't need the ninety nine mile an hour fastball. All but about nine times a game. No wasted motion. No wasted energy. It's brilliant. Really? And not as a prize from the smartest player in the NBA for the last decade or more. Here's LeBron surpassing wilt last night, let's watch. Macron drives is fouled. Away from passing table. From. James number five all time on the NBA scoring list. This guy is passing ledges that. That one name based unbelievable pointing this great. This. By the way. I always felt that Michael Jordan sees a lot of himself in Russell Westbrook. When I think of Michael Jordan, I think of relentless great athlete. Incredibly insanely competitive. That's westbrook. Michael's just a more efficient version of Westbrook. That's why Michael loves Westbrook, by the way, I've always seen LeBron James as a more mature, a more focused a more driven version of wilt. And watching him in persons in absolute pleasure. And my takeaways are always he is so much better than even even other great players, and my second takeaway is he has now matured so well, he's as great as he's ever been. He just now picks his spots and let the game come to him. There was one of those little microbursts last night. In their quick. He does it two or three times and he seizes on the opportunity Portland led for much of the game early. Then they started to falter. Here comes the burst. The. Crowley, thirty percent will thirty percent magic and forty percent. I dunno incredible hulk let me shift gears to this Aaron Rodgers tonight. This is a nother joy. This is a nother big standalone major TV game with Aaron Rodgers facing one of those contemporary star quarterbacks that we always put him ahead of you know, we always put him ahead of Matt Ryan it was put him ahead of drew Brees. We always put him ahead of Cam Newton. We put him ahead of Matt Ryan many of you put him ahead of Tom Brady. And we get a couple of these year. These these big Aaron Rodgers games. And here's what's interesting when Aaron Rodgers faces the other great quarterbacks that you always put them ahead of Brady Brees Matt Ryan Cam Newton Andrew law. Doc. Russell wilson. Oh, always put him head of those. It's funny. Guess Aaron doesn't win a lot of those games. Let's take this year. He faced Tom Brady week nine. He lost and any faced Jared Goff week eight. He's one of the great young players any lost that one. And then last year he faced Cam Newton off the injury week fifteen and lost. And then he faced Matt Ryan in week -tuni- lost. He did face. Russell Wilson last year at home in one two years ago, he faced Matt Ryan NFC championship and lost vase Russell Wilson in one. And then he faced Andrew luck and lost face. Matt Ryan and lost. When is winning a matter in these big standalone contemporary star quarterback verse contemporary star quarterback when when's the winning part gonna matter? But is defense. It's eleventh I in Saks Fifth in past defense. Those numbers tonight are even or better than Russell Wilson. When drew Brees who doesn't make excuses faces. His contemporaries, the last ten times drew Brees has. Faced you know, those great quarterbacks he six and four. The last ten times Tom Brady has fast based contemporary quarterbacks in that small group is nine and one. Aaron Rodgers lasts seven years. Green Bay's get a losing record on the road Owen three against Russell Wilson. Seattle phases. Him again tonight. I am by no means not saying Aaron Rodgers isn't great. But God you hold LeBron. And Kevin Durant and Tom Brady Cam Newton and big band. You hold all these stars in sports to actually winning games. Hell you hold him to winning championships, which I championships is about luck and timing and your coach in your roster. I'm just looking for more Aaron Rodgers wins in the regular season against contemporary star quarterbacks. The guys you always slot. Him ahead of Matt Ryan came Newton, Andrew luck. Russell wilson. Drew Brees Tom Brady. It's time for some wins. I don't wanna hear excuses. They're number one in the NFL and top top-five past events. Number eleven total defense Seattle's ten by fifteen yards time to start winning these. We hold everybody else. Every other quarterback. We hold. We where the timing tips or the titles where the play I'm not even asking for that. With Aaron Rodgers. I'm just asking, you know, when you face these big stand alone, TV games that don't aren't always at home and comfortable lambo that you have to go on the road for these that you have to face a team. That's also got some good players. I'm just asking that you could win some of these. I'm not demanding Super Bowls. I'm not demanding NFC championships fans. Do we hold everybody else? Accountable in sports LeBron. Kevin Durant Steph curry Tom Brady, drew Brees. Big bet. We hold everybody accountable. Can I just hold Aaron Rodgers accountable to win one of these big television games that stand alone against the contemporary quarterback? Be sure to catch live additions of the heard weekdays at noon. Easter not an Pacific on Fox Sports radio affects one and the iheartradio app. So now, you go from like rumors till legitimate rumors to while something happening, right? And there have been discussions that. Kevin durant? Not happy with, you know, the whole vibe in Golden State, and you know, you heard rumors. But now, they're intensifying Stephen a Smith yesterday said he's told Lakers lead for Kevin Durant. I don't know that to be true. But he's broken some stories. We also have a source a couple of days ago an anonymous warrior players saying Katie is out of here. Now, we've got this from Marcus Thompson of the outlet. According to multiple sources dream on green reminded Durant, dude we won without you hear green let out his frustrations this is part of the impending exit. So we've got multiple sources. So my first takeaway on this is there's probably some truth to it. These are legitimate people. We don't make stuff up. That doesn't mean guys like me are wrong on our sources, but we just don't make stuff up and I'm not a reporter these are reporters often their job their livelihood their blood their legacies on reporting stuff. So I trust those. If you're tired of Golden State's dynasty, you should be happy with this. Right. If you're tired of the Silicon Valley smugness, the the political progressiveness the smarter the new Steve Kerr, the great Kevin Durant leaving. And by the way, if he does go to Los Angeles, LeBron Kevin Durant would crush the warriors. It would not be competitive two guys in the NBA of averaged over thirty against the warriors in their career. Kevin durant? Lebron and let me tell you something even when he loses a final they can't stop. Lebron? Lebron is a hot knife through butter against the warriors. And Kevin Durant would eat Draymond green alive. And the warriors would be then led by increasingly brittle Steph curry who I love. Love but he's brittle. You'd now have to overpay for hot and cold. Klay Thompson low skilled Draymond green who plays defense and not much else and the enigmatic boogie cousins would probably sign a deal check. Please. I second round it's over. But never forget this. If you don't like cold move to a warm place, and if you don't like heat moved to Alaska, but don't complain if you love the NBA about dynasties because in the sixties, the Celtics won eleven titles and thirteen years long before player, mobility, we had the most dominant dynasty in NBA history. And then in the eighties magic in the Lakers bird in the Celtics one eight titled combined and then in the nineties six of eight years Michael Jordan's bulls won the only time they didn't. He went to play baseball. Then Kobe and check one three straight the Spurs one five. And fifteen years LeBron got to eight straight finals and now Golden State looking for the third straight. This is what the NBA is. This is what the NBA's always been you do get this as basketball at the U level. There's like six AU teams in the country that win every year. And in college basketball, there's like six programs that dominate the tournament and like in the NBA because you've only got five starters in eight guys in the rotation. Basketball relies on the fewest people, and when you get one or two stars maybe three that converge. It's over, but it was over in the sixties, and we had dynasties we had dynasties with red arbox and dynasties in the eighties dynasties in the nineties dynasties in San Antonio and dynasties in big markets. Dynasties small markets. So if we're going to have another one, here's my only question Lakers. Katie lebron. You don't like that? Take time out. So you're so fascinated with Jaylen Brown and Al Horford you want that one for seven years. Oh, my bed that sounds fascinating. You're so fascinated with Janas Chris Middleton Eric Bledsoe. You want that dynasty for eight years? Sorry, not that interested. You're so fascinated with Kyle Lowry coli Leonard and Jonas villainous you want that dynasty for eight years really bra to go to the steakhouse or the best rebuy. They have it is inevitable. Basketball at every level is the sport of dynasties because one or two players can dominate the game. If you're giving me an option on dynasties. Knock yourself out with the Al Horford Gordon Hayward one with the with the Chris Middleton one with the Kyle Lowry. Coa one bra all take k de Braun and the Lakers in the palm trees one be sure to catch live editions the heard weekdays at noon eastern, not an Pacific. I understand the media. You're looking for stories. I don't even consider myself part of the media anymore. I don't I just I date journalism gone. I know I'm doing my own level journalism. They're doing fake news. I'm doing journalists. This story stupid. Headline passing stats are up around the NFL. But Tom Brady's are down. Let me continue Brady's averaging seven point four yards. A pass this year. The NFL average is seven point five. What does he throw in left handed out there? The story continues Brady's completing sixty five point two percent of his passes. The NFL average is sixty five point one. What is going on? He was the MVP last year. The story is asinine. Ever seen the TV show chopped its that food show. They bring in a bunch of people four ingredients, they give you liquorice an avocado maple syrup and horse meat. And they ask you to make the world's greatest pork chop. Let's just say this out loud. Tom Brady's leading receiver. This year is a running back. His slot receivers coming off ACL surgery. His best running backs a rookie who's been heard all year his tight end in his last year and has one touchdown and his best. Deep threat has played sparingly the last five years and joined the team in mid season. And you wonder why Tom's not the leading MVP guy. Folks. Tom Brady this year has beaten Houston. They lead their division Chicago. They lead their division. Kansas city. They lead their division. Only beat Andrew luck. Aaron rodgers. Are we kidding here? Saying out loud. He's got an old slot receiver off attourney C L A tied end with one touch down in his last year. A rookie running back who's been hurt all season. His leading receivers are running back and his best deep threat has personal issues perhaps some addiction and has played sparingly. In the last five years, and you wonder why he's not tearing it up the media now make stories up to take shots at the current NFL dynasty. Patrick Mahomes has the best play designer in the league as coach the fastest player on the outside and Tyree. Kill a top five running back in Kareem hunt. The number two receiver. Sammy Watkins is a number one on many teams and Travis Kelsey is the best tight end. Yes. Patrick, Mahomes, should be tearing it up. The patriots receiving leaders are number one running back number two guy that played sparingly for half a decade. Number three gronk who Sunday may not play again number four slot receiver often ACL surgery and number five Chris HOGAN who can't outrun me to that camera. Okay. No, no, really the media. It really is not fake news doesn't exist. That's fake news. Guys are real bummed must be throwing left handed. I mean, let's be honest here. We're just making crap up. We are just making crap up. Well, people have been wishing for the downfall patriot. Yes. Crack in Tom Brady for many years. So any kind of that can kind of maybe point to the Klein is happening. If we have to we have to dynasties in football right now, we have the Alabama one. And the New England won the Alabama was very easy to root against Nick Sabin refuses to go on the road out of conference Nick Sabin play citadel three times a year. He could play real teams Nick Sabin. Oh is conveniently has a by before the biggest games, they manipulate their schedule. Now, they're very very good. But never forget his fourth year. He lost three games. And then he stopped going on the road out of conference, Nixon manipulating the the the better part the decade been been he has been manipulating. Last five years of this dynasty. I'm not saying they wouldn't still be great. But they're manipulate New England's beating people they don't make their own schedule. It's not their fault that dolphins can't get their act together. I mean, I'm never going to root against a professional dynasty college. Dynasties are easy to root against the better. You are the more games. You win the better. You are the better players. You get the coach has too much power. He can manipulate the schedule. Mike, shefty can totally manipulate Duke schedule thirty percent of the schedule. They can play all games at home. I mean the big game for Alabama. This year was in Orlando against Louisville Louisville since fired their coach it was such a mess. New England beat Houston leaves their division. Kansas City leaves their division. Chicago leads division beat Aaron Rodgers, Andrew luck. And that's hard for me to hate them. What's up John Middlecombe from the three and out podcast? If you liked Colin show, you will like mine. I talk a ton of football coming up on today's show dive in the couch tanning. What makes him a quarterback with the Dallas Cowboys? They're not done yet in gronkowski. Why villa? Check should have got rid of him last year, again, the three and outlawed guess where ever you listen to your podcast with me. John middlekauff tonight Packers and the Seahawks play and my feeling is field goal game. It's an elimination game. It's contemporary quarterbacks meeting errands beaten, Russell a couple of times Russell's never lost Aaron in Seattle. And here we go. I pry coin flip it and go with the Seahawks. Let me just say this though, I don't want to hear any excuses. We all make choices in life. When Aaron Rodgers decided to take thirty four million dollars a year deal. He made choices and the choice is. I'm going to play with a younger team for the rest of my career. And that's okay. Aaron Jones very good young running back. And they've got a couple of really nice young wide receivers and a really good rookie corner. But that's a choice. He made. Okay. Years ago. Drew Brees took the money and the saints went seven nine seven nine seven nine because they couldn't afford an offensive line or a pass rush. And then drew Brees to pay cut and got a break back to back years. The saints hit it out of the park with two great drafts. Nailed it crushed it. And that's how they rebounded. So right now the MVP of the Packers intern Rogers the second MVP of the Packers their scouting department. But I don't wanna hear excuses about. Well, you know, errands, really smart. I always say about people, you can't be brilliant and tell me, you're brilliant and then get conveniently stupid Bill. Bella check is too smart to say. I didn't know anything about filming practice. Now, you knew film and the jets was not right Bill. You knew that you can't build ballot. Check. And that smart. And then say no idea was filming the jet sideline. You knew deflate gates bunch of hooey spy gate was real can't be as smart RELEX Aaron Rodgers. And then complain about young receivers. Okay. You decided to take that money. And that's fine. I back on that. But that means go play with younger players free agents. Don't go to Green Bay to begin with. Now, you can't afford them. And that's fine. But right now Green Bay's got two second year running backs one's really good too rookie corners a second year corner. And that's their new reality. That's what they chose. And drew Brees. Once got a big contract and his offense of line deteriorated and his defense wasn't as good. What you need. If you're Aaron Rodgers now is for your organization to nail some drafts. And they're certainly capable of it. I love their young receiver. I liked their young corners. I love this Aaron Jones kids second year. But that's what you need when you pay the quarterback of fortune. You're going to need two years in a row of home runs in the draft breeze. Got it New Orleans with his GM Mickey Lomas cross your fingers if you're in Rogers again there in Seattle tonight. One more heard the herd streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like if you like the NFL if you bet the NFL if you play fantasy if you really like football and wanna get smarter. Nobody does a better job than Greg Cosell thirty plus years NFL films, and he joins us today. Let's talk about drew Brees for a sec. Second. The numbers are off the charts. Some of this is rules driven seventy seven percent completions Twenty-one TD's one pick. But you look at the film. Greg is this the most impressive drew Brees season? Boy, he's been good for a long time. Call in you know, I think the interception thing is really interesting. He's only thrown one. But I think he's always really played like this. He's so good before the stamp of the ball to great quarterbacks in today's NFL Colin win before the ball snapped. They're so good at investigating the defense. Researching it understanding what the defense is doing. And then there's the tempo element. That's a major part of what the saints do selective use of tempo, which is also really helpful because it gets defenses in a predictable coverage. Their offense is really quick timing base. He does not throw the ball down the field. Very much. No, it's it's an offense. That's based on completions. Getting the ball out completing passes staying on schedule. Staying ahead of the chains. They have Camara who is as good a match up weapon as there is in the league because of the position he plays. So he's he's playing at a really high level. But there's there's a lot of scheming involved as well. Yeah. And by the ways clearly coach -able because he's smart understand. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is a guy that's really embrace Sean Payton, there's so much fun to watch. And we have missed the number one team in the NFL for three straight weeks. All right. I watched Tennessee in New England and Tom was not throwing on platform. He was rushed. He was uncomfortable. Tennessee now is made Dak and Brady and obviously wants better than the other highly uncomfortable. What a Tennessee do that the Texans defensive front. Couldn't do the bears defensive front couldn't do but Tennessee's defensive front. Did it? Well, I don't think Tennessee did anything tactically or strategically. Let's put it that way. That teams don't know about. They just happened to do it. Really? Well, and what that is. They showed multiple front looks. They focused all their pressure concepts which were also very multiple up the middle and they had great success. Jess and Brady was very uncomfortable. Right from the beginning yanking. Yes. And when he gets uncomfortable. He starts to play a little faster, and he doesn't see things as clearly and that's exactly what happened in this game. And they were you could go to the first series of the third quarter, Colin, and that said everything you want to know it was the second play. They had a blitz. It was what we call a form in zone exchange with that means is you only rush four, but one of them is a linebacker or defensive back. They got in clean then on the third down play. They did the same thing another for man's own exchange and they ended up with a sack those two plays on the first series of the third quarter. Where totally Representative of what the titans did the entire game. Andrew luck. It's so I feel I'm so happy that he has protection. It's not a perfect team. They need another. They need a number two receiver. They could use help it running back. The defence just doesn't it that the the past. Russia's evaporated in the last month. But this offense of line is giving him time to throw. I mean, do you see this? When you look at tape and film is this a team that feels formidable enough to beat Tennessee this weekend the win. Well, I think they're very interesting in this regard number one we've talked about Frank Reich in the offense of coaching staff. And what a great job they've done with the quick time and quick rhythm pass game. Look is a comfortable player. He there it's not like years ago, and he dropped back and start moving around with those deeper drops the ball gets out. But I think they're also playing in some ways to what the NFL for some teams has become multiple tight insects. So when you line up with two and even three tight ends more often than not the high probability is the defense will stay with their base personnel. And then when you have Letica tight end like abra n- like Swope like MO alley. Cox players who can line up all over the formation against base personnel. And you can spread the formation as they do at times you 'cause matchup problems, and they're really doing that affectively. Yeah. They really don't think any team in the league has more solid Tida EIB. Ron by the way, has been a massive get for them. And you probably because I know your big college football, you probably remember him coming out of college. He was highly athletic. It did not quite happen for him into Troy, but there were people talking about Ibran as if he was that new wave tight end because he could really really run. I mean, I remember I think he had a seventy five yard touchdown against the you when he was in college where he just looked like a big wide receiver who could really run. All right. So Dak Prescott goes on the road beats Philadelphia. And I said, you know, I've seen this with Dak we all get a sugar rush. It's okay. This deck is great. And I always say, it's a little fool's gold. He had a great running game. He plays with a lead. He was more comfortable in the pocket. The secondary for the eagles was all beat up. I kind of feel like this deck win was sugar rush. And there's always a crash after that. I think a little bit of it. It was perfect circumstances in my opinion. What are the film say I would agree with that based on Cape study? And I think the tape study tells you about that pretty much every week. He he always leaves throws on the field that are there by not turning it loose because he's not a true into patient anticipation thrower. He needs to feel very comfortable that the receivers open before he turned it loose. Now, he is an NFL quarterback. So he's going to make throws you know, he's a starting NFL quarterback. But for the most part, he he doesn't have great vision in the pocket and he waits. He's a waiter. So that will always be a little bit of a hindrance to his game. But I think getting Amari Cooper will help because he can win one on one. And that's the way they're offense is built it's an individual isolation. Route offense, and Amari Cooper is a really good route runner, and he can win one on one by the way. Philadelphia one game. They've scored over twenty five this year. They did it a dozen times last year. It does seem to me that Carson Wentz doesn't get quite the protection up front. They've had injuries on the perimeter in the backfield. Is it just a personnel thing? Scheme thing. What's wrong with Philadelphia health scheme based? And don't forget they they lost Frank Reich and joined Filipo they have Mike grows in his first year as a coordinator, you don't see the same staple route concepts and combinations. As you did a year ago last year, you could say, hey, what are the eagles Staples? And you'd immediately come up with four or five route concepts that they ran every week and in the run game we used to talk last year about how diverse and multiple they were in the run game. You don't see that this year? So I think it's more scheme based because I personally think Carson winces playing very very well. I do I I love Carson Wentz. But to your point, you know, NBA dynasties die because of egos Kobe Shaq don't get along NFL dynasties die because you have injuries free agency, and you lose really good coordinators, and they just don't would they just don't quite feel the same. Now. Speaking of feeling since asional Rams chiefs will put on his show this. It was going to be a Mexico City. They've moved it now to Los Angeles. I do feel like now hear me out. This is weird. I do feel like not that the league's figured out the Rams, but the way to beat the Rams is run at them. Like Seattle did twice take golf off the field, and they don't have a wildly complex offense. They do few things brilliantly. Well, I like Kansas City in this matchup. Not that the league's figured out the Rams, but I think we're a little ahead of ourselves on the Rams, they're not the warriors. They can't mail it in and win games. What is the tape? Sam these two. Well, I think it's a fascinating sort of combination of inches because they're different obviously, they're both very good. I would say that the Rams are not that complicated sword. I don't like to use. But it complicated. They line up in eleven personnel. And almost every snap three wide receivers on the field. They run a lot of tight splits. They were in the outside zone run game and they run jet motion. So with they're trying to do is expanded defense. Azzawi stretch the defense vertically create voids in the middle. That's what they do. And they minimize the pass rush with his own run game. The chiefs on the other hand are incredibly multiple win their formations their personnel where they line people up Tyree hill can line up in the inside slot two trips. He's really hard to defend they are for more multiple in what they do. It's not a gimmick thing. But they they line people up all over, and then makes it harder to defend. So they're different to really good offenses. That are totally different case. Seahawks tonight host Green Bay you talked about Russell Wilson this year being more of a complementary piece last week. I watched them against the Rams in boy there they had clearly put in several quarterback run situations. They had spotted something with the Rams not only running the football against him. But Russell there were several plays a half dozen where I felt like even though he dropped back to pass. He really wanted to run the football. Like his mind was made up which I don't know if it's designed or not you still feel that he's mostly complementary piece this year. I do I think that's their approach. They've run the ball more than any team in the NFL. They've got the most shotgun run of any team in the NFL. There were running team. Now, I thought last week they had its own read elements to that. And he did have some zone. Read runs. A lot of his runs came later in the game. When they were coming back if he saw open space he took it figuring gained some yards. But my sense is that they want to be a running team a physical attitude running team, ideally, play good defense and Wilson can sort of be a complement to that. I don't think they want him to be a runner as a priority in their offense. Yeah. By the way, Green Bay tonight, errands, never one in Seattle. And I said this the other day, and I'm not sure it's right. But I said it I said listen certain things in the NFL travel. Well, running games travel running games mean you have extended drives it. You quiet. The crowd. You take their star quarterback off the field. Green Bay doesn't run the ball. Generally with great of Acura n- over the last four or five years. I don't think it's very hard to win this league. If you have to throw thirty eight times, that's my takeaway, white Green Bay last seven years is sub five hundred on the road with Aaron Rodgers. That's my whole takeaway. Do you buy any of that are due and in fact this year up until I think this week Aaron Rodgers on average was dropping back more than forty five. That's terrible. That's not good for anybody. No. That's not good for anybody. You're right. That's too many. So we'll see how they go moving forward. Obviously Jones last week had a big game. I like Aaron Jones I remember. Watching him coming out of you tip. I don't know if you saw him. I did not I thought that and this is going to sound crazy because who I'm going to compare them to but only in one regard. I think he was similar to Frank gore in his ability to get through small creases at the point of attack, and then reaccelerate to the second level. And I think that Jones is very very good at that. And I'd like to see their offense, be more balanced. I think it needs to be. I think he green base forty two and eleven. When Aaron Rodgers throws fewer than thirty times and they're much closer to five hundred when he throws over that. So to your point or my point a running game makes everybody better including Aaron Rodgers now. Everybody loves Sean McVeigh he's in LA the Todd Gurley. It's the entertainment capital of the world. But I'm watching Matt Nagy Chicago with Trubisky guy. I didn't love how to college still not sure I love I could make an argument. It's way more impressive. What Matt Nagy Trubisky and that offense and those pieces the one McVeigh's doing in LA your thoughts. Well, here's what always sort of bothers me not about what you just said. But I think that it's the coaching staff job to put a scheme together that enhances the skill set of their players that doesn't mean a player is a system player. That's the coach's job is not. Yeah. No it is. So you know, I didn't Mitchell Trubisky coming out of college either. I don't think he's a purely natural. Or the football Goth is a much more natural thrower of the football Trubisky is but clearly scheme wise particularly again zone concepts. They do such a good job that it presents to find throws and reads, four Bisky and the one thing he showed. He's very good seem thrower, those can be tough throws. But he's made a number of those throws. I'm very anxious to see where this goes because they've got some weapons you like their weapons. Well, I really like Anthony Miller coming out of Memphis. That's your big play of the week. So give us your play of the week. It's. All right. Let's let's run it. Then right now, and we can started right away. This was a touchdown to Anthony Miller. And it was a forty five yard touchdown. I believe obviously, he's wide open when he catches the ball. But there's a reason he's wide open. And what they did here is they ran what we call trips. Bunch. You see three bears. They're Alan Robinson is the point man in the bunch. So now he's being played man-to-man by Nevin Lawson. So now what you have with the rest of the bunch is you have Tyler Gabriel on the outside. And right now, he's being played man-to-man by Sean shed. And then on the inside you're going to have Anthony Miller played man-to-man by quandary digs. But with the bunch does is it can cause some problems for how you play this because you can either play stay in man coverage or play what we call the releases of the two outside receivers so to speak. So what happens here is you see that digs allows his man Miller to run by him. Playing the inside release of Taylor Gabriel. So he gives up his man to play the release now to show in shed. He doesn't play the release. He stays with his man, which was Gabriel. So Miller's wide open. So they got caught playing bunch. They got caught playing one guy played man all the way through the other guy played the release, and they got caught. That's what you try to do Colin when you do the trip. Sponge, you can't count on that happening. But that's one thing that could happen. You get them. Stuck mixed between playing the man and playing the releases. Yeah, they're clever. I mean, I watch them they're clever. They I mean, they all say again trubisky's ball dies to me. He doesn't you know? Right about that. You're right about that deep balls lose energy on the back end. Yeah. No. I mean his ball dies in. It's like Mahomes gained steam his dies. That's because he's a lot front leg thrower. He locks his front leg when he throws. And you can't drive the football. When you do that Greg Cosell. Great stuff, fifty minutes NFL meat sandwich, talking to you, Greg. Thanks gone.

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It I said what the fuck and Two homes is where there was like a what happened and I was like Bernard St. Kobe's dead and then one of my homies. They was with us. He's like Dour Kobe. He was like shut the fuck up. He's like how he's like he's like I'm not believing. That should the forgot here. They're like I don't know probably five ten minutes later confirming I should. It was on because I personal google and it was It was only maybe like TMZ and it was one of the new source saying it but yes an es order saying it New York Post saying La Times started saying it. So yeah we like. Yeah we we all three of us. We couldn't believe I ever point. We was walkin silence night three or four minutes like walking right beside each other and speaking just like damn but I will say I really didn't i. Yeah my homie. Homey took a hard. So I mean we finished the tour and then we went and got food To Low bar and a half food and it was a sports bar so they had sports on TV soccer but they did a little commercial break or something and then they posted the Kobe. No nineteen seventy eight through Twenty twenty or whatever year and then my home Eve's broke down. Br Who's in our boohooing for real like damn straight. You didn't hear me. I got back and I watched a little The tribute show shack talking about do Jerry West s s where he hit me. Too Shack Shack Shack was the shock was the one that did it to me. I listened to him talk about it and I think I think it was. I was I. I was Kinda sympathizing with him to like You know he is. He's going through a mourning. The death assist to the just recently and just listening talk everything that he was saying it just it just hit hard. Everything using man SARS watching the the the legends day he grew up on grow still being around and everything. Like as like you know this is. We don't know we won't won't get that. I don't know if it's true but I seen something where it was like Koby's Donnelly Mvp dead NBA Um like me. I don't know I didn't I didn't research. I mean it would make sense though because I don't know I feel I will have one. So we'll is there Mendez four-minute but yeah everybody Jerry West. I mean but you mental top league ain't been around that long but I think it's only been like fifty six six years something. Yeah so it actually makes sense because Bill Russell still alive. I don't know how many Pe- I mean she George Kareem he got six of them. So it's like people got multiples borough so it's like yes crazy when you look at it ally Kobe's MVP and he's dead on of Elgin. Baylor were guy one. He died like in the past couple of years yet. They gotta be some I mean. Let's see Russel Kareem abdul-jabbar Michael Jordan Lebron James. I'm not on this them all. Tim Duncan Dairy. But you scroll through. I think he's the only one. I'm Debora come Bob Pettit by pettit still kicking I believe so damn he. Es Yeah that's what I said but I say he's the only mvp dead Burton history NBA. Not even only one day. He's the first one to die. It's crazy it's crazy man. But so you I mean so. We say that that he's the first. Mvp Dr you know Nike was kind of scrambling because he was the first signature athlete today. And that was. I mean that was different. They had they had a lot of stuff that they had to do You know as far as I don't know what do you think was it. That goal to kind of remove rupaul. His stuff to make sure people wasn't profited off of it or when they put all this stuff down yeah men pressure they did it to people are selling the shirts from the game the other day for Magus on Ebay for like eight hundred bucks per search that they gave away for free just looking up stuff out of curiosity like career. Kobe's burs going for six hundred right now. Yeah Yeah I was. I was looking at that the other day. Just out of curiosity. 'CAUSE MEG got a couple of pair house looking. I'll look them up just to see you know. Yeah they going for crazy prices based composer all star weekend. I'M GONNA try to grab both I. I don't doubt it go to will get Kobe. Anything is going to be is going to be worse than Nama. I'm a I'm gonNA try for now. If they come out but I like I say only GonNa drop them now Glenn Helder Brush is going crazy. Amounts of bread. Branches is like stacks on Stock X.. Two three what is crazy. What's your favorite? What's your favorite Kobe? Memory man a me me me early and Kobe's career our amounts. ASEAN Brousseau when a big fan of Kobe coming up. I actually hated Kobe. I wanted I hated the Lakers. Manar come full circle circle on the LAKER fans life. Fly Answer Your Life. Put Life Bro. Okay part of like a nation. You know well I guess it's kind of solidified now. Lebron can't can't go where I mean. I never thought he was going to wear any that he was going anywhere and if he leaves he'll go to Cleveland. I go pay would assign behavior this five years from now. Now what else. Oh Shit. My favorite memory bro. Probably the sixty point game bro. Should occur again to the his last name. Yeah is asking him but I mean he got he got moments but yeah and I will. I didn't appreciate Kobe. Greatness to prize last couple of years at he won his last on Sunday one day last title in two took thousand eleven so yeah probably twenty. Thirteen two thousand fourteen because dams winding down. Then he started getting hard to shit. Yeah not just feeling. Bad on. Watching play was really trash because he was doing shooting jumpers. Yeah he couldn't get past nobody in Yeah it was just it. When it went from the wash we are seeing him? Go off in their last game even though he shot the shots and then he had the game one or two. I was doper Oprah. Can came right on. He say he said you can't write a better ending. Yes I think For for me like the. I'm comfortable in saying that. Kobe has always been the villain you know for me. The first part is career for sure he was number eight he was available. Because you know I I had. I was a fan of team and that team. He you know he stopped him from winning. I was I was a pace fan huge when I was younger. And then when they finally had hey got Jordan added away Jordan's Gong. The Eastern Conference is pretty much decimated in detail in Reggie Miller's career. He finally gets to the finals in Kobe. NEOM knock him out. That was like I ain't GonNa lie. I was so upset then I cry. My brothers Big Lakers fan. I was a big Fan. We Watch the game together. They do you know they they go off. They do what they do kind of kind of. I think that's what started the era too wouldn't it. That was the first three peat on. Now that we're we're not I repeat the three P. and So like I just remember I was like damn I suck but you know I've I'm comfortable with saying that you I know I hated him as a basketball player just because he this he accepted that role. You know what I'm saying he. He accepted the role of being the villain air by telling him to shoot. You had the commercial aware people's yelling at him in the crowd. And he was directing him like you know he was a like it was an orchestra. Whatever so I he you know he always bad? Yeah Guy But the My favorite memory was win when they had the series with between Philly and La and Up they was they was at staple center being the shit out of Philly and it was toward the end of the game. Somebody somebody got fouls at the free throw line and Eiriksson awesome was yelling the Kobe come back to Philly. Come to fairly name went to Philly. Whip the ASS to. That's that's my favorite Kogi. I don't remember that I'm Eh but I'll start getting fairly. Though he went off and they will. He went off early. Buddhism pissed him. Oh Yeah Always the Vailima nine. But he's not even A. I think like somebody was saying I was reading. saw a found his teammate. His teammates from the two thousand team. I think on a instagram. He was sharing koby stories. He actually got some dope ones on our for real about about green. Went on the show but He was saying that phillies were. So it's like if you learn from Philly let it was like Kobe won from Philly. He was from Lower Merion. Which I eight or ten minutes outside of Philly but like they treat you Different at a boo kind of shape but We'll say he he did. Share a story Bro. which is crazy because Kobe went like thirteen from the draft and there was in the same draft class and his team played against in? AAU Bre Events Carter. Tem Time Kobe and it was warm. Were notable name that was on the same age you team and they play and do head a forty two. His team for Lakers Here forty two tim. Thomas had twenty eight Vince Carter didn't play was gone and he stayed home and What the problem do said Kobe draw fifty. 'cause everybody was like this is a man so I mean he's going to Carolina and all that and it was all we got this. You know what I'm saying we'RE GONNA we're still. The team is startled. He his team had Elton brand him. And somebody else. Some other notable name but Yeah but who is like here. Forty two was like I won't believe Kobe dropped fifty. He's like hey you yeah he was like you know. I always thought I was the best player on the floor. He's Kobe was by far the best clown the Florida Day had. A NIGGA had another story but he was like Dr warm-ups Calleja Abraham Play Defense and He's like you know Kobe's during this move shot mess. And he grabbed rebound or whatever and he was like I guess it was like his turn and they do the benchwarmer was like yeah. He's played he told Kobe played. I said No. He said well he said why not. He's like you don't you don't the need to play defense. You're not playing. He said keep playing me and they will say he was passed by. Because what you playing defense for. You're not getting here and do it was like man. He's taking it back looking back man I wa I will. He said I would play Kobe. Eighty two games right now if I could you know just to bring him back and should yeah. It was crazy. It was a he. He wouldn't know star player and he played for the Lakers. Won a ship in two thousand thousand. Then he went on. They got drafted at the same time and then he went on. He went overseas and play for some years but he said Kobe was cool and Your managers he do Kobe crazy stories out there bro. The Nick Young Shirt Louisville team made all the Magus biggest takeaway. Kobe's off to solid. I and I do scenarious land. I I was trying to say was You know I think I think like sports worldwide like sports world wise rather the fans that dislike Kobe. They didn't dislike Kobe the person they dislike Kobe the competitor you know what I'm saying. Because he he was a winner yet he broke Kaleida. Heart Lebron people. Hey Tom Brady yeah to me tonight. let us not forget either now. Two other Welsh uh eight lane by nobody else. Beer called his daughter. That was probably the biggest ship. Amoeba was his his daughter Dr on the plane and my homey. That's a big. Kobe knew knew he was like because they didn't release. Nobody's brought guaranteed on the plane. But he's like you don't see Kobe but now his she's on a plane and then the numbers was coming out and saying it was four four and they've saying his daughters was there then they were saying it was said man. Rick Fox is on airlines. It was just a whole bunch of shit coming out and be wasn't yeah once it came out to Jesus was on her breasts trash because it's like he ain't even got nobody here too. I'm he got. He had three other daughters with is like I mean we need him who like she really went on away. Hurry onto the nickname was Montecito. Carry on that the that the basketball took Gino was about the Sancha. Yeah because you got all these toll him browse. I behaved Louvre fans because they always do monkey shit. Oh God whoa fans do now. She was come Balu well to Because girl in the pitch and there was no she wasn't on so you can play Gino. She'll be annoying the fuck out of me but this is the fact that she was thirteen years old. Who knew what she was gonNA? Do you know what I'm saying that to buy they fuck with somebody that went to Lulu like she there. Hello there was holding ales and shut up. Yeah there should be annoying. Fuck the recipes to to Auden gee-gee pilot Two other teammates parents the parents of one of the teammates. It's and Do then I my missing somebody and got all the names in front of me. Man Bears Essay and Shit. She pisses me off tuber. Because I'm just like why fuck was Koby in own s helicopter. Bor News like four hundred meal rods. I don't get it broadcast on the stand up on snare and then it's like they missed. Do they was just twenty feet higher. They wouldn't even hit the mountainous shared. India is crazy tribus meow. Bre Is our our credit union. So you see the Laker Shit. Last night they score eighty one and a half seeing anyone at the half. Yeah I saw that and then when you wait so the total the final score. If you add up the points from the game visit was it a two hundred twenty four two two two two hundred forty two. Okay okay. We are his numbers twenty four and two why this should just just eerie bro. I sent virus earlier in the week with all this number shit man. It's crazy Emmanuel. You where we get if you WANNA get into start. There was interestingly in half and in the final score twenty year not one forty two crazy but you may rest recipe sturdy body man. Kobe go Miss Kobe. Man Got but we got hello highlights shit That's another thing like literally missing Kobe. We really miss him because he was he wasn't even though he was retired. Like he wasn't removed from you know from from media or from you know he he was always still right there. You know he remember the year he was like the after your after he retired he was given all the NBA. The players different goals. Whatever honestly going to get the MVP and all that stuff so like he you know he was still active with the NBA? Hat the details show. He's still active daughter got him active with NBA was funny. Somebody bought up a tweet. Where being Michael Komo said giveaway mega some? I reply so my reply with a picture of Kobe looking at his phone nicotine he played. I remember that we say he was waiting for. It would be more on the team bus looking at his. What team you play? So yeah between. He was still active in basketball. Is Getting into being a coach active. They happy yeah. It's great to see I love when he ever him. Lebron yeah yeah and and it was crazy. 'cause Friday that melody and play yes because he told. Kobe told him that he was going to be at the game. Yeah yes trash man. Yeah that just. It's good to see how happy he was. After you know the the the kind of play Kobe was the the competitive like he you know he as hard as he worked on the court he was working just as hard own his game. Away from the game. You know what I'm saying to where like you. You just know especially like me as a father I got. I got three mon like being at work. You know passed a five o'clock platt past six o'clock clock or whatever and then you know you get home you get home six thirty quarter to seven you got to get the kids you gotta get fat and get him to bed. You don't get to spend time with them like you. You know what what I'm saying like you really want to so thinking of that from the perspective of being a basketball player playing eighty two games a year like forty one of them away from you know your family you know you gotta you across you on the other side a country half the time or you know in the summer you on the other side of the World Plan Ball and you just you always are away from your family and you note that so he did that twenty years of that and then you know three years into you know becoming becoming a father and you know you see them like you say courtside with his daughter and let them all as the like you see how happy he was with actually being able to be a a father after leaving everything he had on the court so s s tough to see that it is. It's a hard pill to swallow. You know just to to think about like. We're not going to be able to see what Kobe could've done in the next twenty years. But we're not going to see. Do Go to the hall of Fame Nauseated Hall of fame. We're not gonNA see him with his statue. GonNa see him on the sideline sixty years old. You know what I'm saying with the Lakers for the Lakers. Shit like lead. Like she's just crazy and then on top of that somebody made somebody made a good point. I was just talking about NBA. I right now. There was like Kobe. I five rings. There's like we might not ever see anybody. There was like Lebron. Don't do it. There was like we probably won't ever see nobody win. Five rings a long time. If it happens again was that's a long time. I mean it's not when we of course we not hard to win a definite three but nobody steph best what they said. It was like the Brian. You got a chance to four one this year so he has a chance to tie. Kobe was six but negative. Negative count now like Haiti. Katie into. No they don't see steph getting leading to more they don't see Yeah I mean that's IT K- I mean the only people with multiple rings in the League right now is Steph. Klay Katie Lebron. Nobody else has multiple challenges. The success that cow. I don't have one to San Antonio. Well he got multiple yet but nobody thinks who is getting five. He's got to so yeah and it was just like it might be the last time in a long time that we see somebody get five. Yeah I don't know because I feel like I feel like it happens once a decade. How many how many did the How many do the Lakers in Boston? Gate back in the in in the eighties. Then you've got Jordan. You Got Kobe. I feel like it's kind of do. Maybe if I go home state team maybe it would have happened if they stay teamed him blow with the fire but they didn't they only want three. Oh I think eighty was for two two but timmy. Got Five to So so things are getting behind the Jordan. Tim Ming and Coby Coby Tim. He played in the same area. So they splitting assuring titles BMI. Ah Moon along their piece to code the other people G G and everybody else. That was on a helicopter man last last week man long well we could go but We can get into our normal. Yeah well yeah. Let's go. We go ahead get into the normal. The norm show so before we do that as always make sure you follow us on new power flow plugging thirty minutes. That show. Is it thirty minutes in spot. Now I mean we had go ahead you follow us What the fuck was that? Hey follow that new Pablo podcast on instagram new pie flown UNSCOM pot on twitter shop demerge new flow dot com backslash shop. Make sure you tell your mamma tell Ya. Baby Mama We are everywhere where the podcasts are. Available Stitcher spotify tunes all that good stuff. Youtube nigger are was. The last episode erupted the AD with a nigger. My bad the La- what was that one episode that we did that we use the porn star for the cover art. They should have a hell of hits on Youtube as has comedy like it was just my regular feed. It was just it was it was just I was like damn why has got so many and then I figure the cover art. You know what I'm saying about to see some pants right right back up. I saw that start the regular show. What about these sex robots but what about a man did you use is it to be? I looked I looked for like a Article about it but the from that is just a little thing that you sent for me from twenty eight team. Yeah Yeah but I think they actually like coming out. So what's what's the deal like I talked about some read about but I mean you can read about it. We just I mean to to know that that the that the games getting fucked go look at your competition. Now man to join look Subaru Right. That's this this joy. Don't look too I mean I I mean look like you could tell us a robot okay. I've seen no okay. I forgot about that but I've just seen a woman yesterday. You say a woman one. I thought that's always talking a year. there was a video. The person like touch the teddy downstairs shit like a real titty titty bounce near wow big to their walls is is Teddy Kennedy. Show now I seen one where the dude look real. He was chiseled it up stuff. I'm like Ham. Man That's the last thing everybody's negatives by a robot was the they probably should they won't fuck like a robot. Da You gotta think the advantages of being able to put your partner in the closet. We own deal with him this allies. It's a Lotta a lot of parks to that man that I'll be willing to put megan the closet sometimes but like kidnapping. I want endangered Minnesota us. Oh my God I can put it in the closet. said he'd be willing to put in the closet just to I mean I don't know maybe get Outta my face. Sometimes you know you just want like we talked about. I think we should just leave leave. What the House wrap somewhere this leader House? Don't be having nowhere to go to A. Let me tell you about the last the time I left the house. Now let's say you did. Dowd lasts all left the house I went to the Tom Sawyer Park and read a book for three hours. The snake was his old man. Swag what do you do when you leave the house. When you manage a girl? What do you do go do whatever you want to do like what what whatever you WanNa do name something because I literally I leave house like fuck what I'm about to do I mean I know what I would do. What would you do so I will go to a mean I will go to the record store out with okay? You okay okay. That's a good idea. I need some help man Dan. I need to know because sometimes I'll be like Menem to get the fuck out or you're just need some air then literally go get air hole. Go eat or go to a restaurant senator about Dolo I did. That's trash try. Just I'd probably people see no. Hopefully your waitress nice to look at. Yeah the I don't know if we need tips. I need tips The whose husband and door dares brought with the hoses word ligature holders bi week do they. What time did you go to? Because that's a big. That's a big club and night. I shouldn't be weaknesses. which was which one did you go to Breckenridge Breckenridge uh-huh okay okay okay. I don't think it's been a long time so I went to hold us but it was I when I went in there. Ain't try dragging we know trouble is Panama would oh we did some other shit I would have been should've went to offer the other. Oh the shit wasn't gonNA shoot had spending money I remember I went to hooters. I went to hooters in South Carolina. One time absolutely I was with my ass is long long time ago but I didn't want to go. I was with her sister and I won't go but they was come on. We'll go. They talked me into my whatever so we go and this girl is in there. Amine hallways is probably the size about race. This and I ask is probably about the size of this table as far as you start. hula-hoop mildly video over cheekbones. Go hit my bed. I'll say they got so uncomfortable. Da Perhaps like literally. There's a chick that I just seen the other day some youtube video. Have you seen it where she looks fake Like a real person like like US built waste to ask S. ratio was crazy to fucking Pumpkin S. We amount I can get into that kind of stuff man. I don't even sound right. Grossed out I was gross. Okay I thought you I thought that might I do not in the Greyhound Bursch work. I don't know what she goes. Yeah I can find it Bro. Video real quick. I'll let you see it. But it's like she's dancing some industry but You ever find a broom I had to send to you bro. Mustard gas mark with some black. She issues week but Now what about the robust mma I mean would you focus on a robot. No no no would you. I mean new would yeah. I don't think so I. I don't think I don't see how I but I can't like say goodbye isn't going to be normal in ten years but I don't I mean I I can. What what would you do? You went to fucking understand girl the robot why 'cause they always make a we real people they want us to fuck like robots. They WANNA sustain hard for three hours. They want us to Fuckin- Jack Rabbit. Negative foot who who's who our swans not sixty wounded. I never heard that before. I didn't know I was unaware chick. Better WanNA negative just Fast Stroke Negga for our listening to much. TRINA wedding. I'm like I'm not a human would would you. Do you went Lewis. Everyone you to do that but don't became Ryan for five minutes. That's why I'm asking for two minutes and be done really tired right exactly. That's right so go. Ahead get up and catches cramp robot. He going to be cool to ride them for two minutes. I'm not the fuck you like. No Jackhammer Negga for a centimeter today. They was like Is like a bitches be doing this today. So expect you to to be able to reciprocate the same shit it was a cartoon she got a big Ass Jackhammer while she what's the role in the back of Haitian attention. That's real man it'd be you'd be looking at. What would you do if you want to? You went to a restaurant you saw your ex. Listen I would have sex robot. Because that's the other thing. is they taking them on dates. They'd say the oily looking for the Arctic dog and they say they as much as six complain about having to pay for something being broke they they got money if they mind. The robots robots though money. The robot. Don't have nothing but if she playing she by how much aerobic house. You probably tutor grand. I mean I'm thinking for four more focuses about twelve grand. You don't think a sex robot is up five figures. I got it now. I really think like fast. Six down the chicken that they posted it was a it was four grand but you but you put shit on it to make you customize it to Geneva so the low low quality I mean the low The hello Yeah so a chick chick like how you like would just nobody. You know. I'll come east. You'd probably like fifteen hundred die you telling me it costs money to put ass on the robot. Yes I'm doing serious bread assizes. At's how big the ask for Shit I'm I'm sure they get options for all ship while okay so these were Ovalles also look to the guy like different looks. I colors all kinds of shipper. This is from four these these robots may be free to have sex with you but they certainly aren't free. According to Cox George ambitiously sex sex box currently cost between five two thousand fifteen thousand dollars to purchase although Morgan mentioned some lower prices so perhaps groupon are available but if he woke. Would you have when you woke up. She was standing in the doorway to get ready for more. Even I'm worried about ask what. If what if you hit the wrong button on veggie Stein Damn House Chase through the house about sex robot sales. Rip Your Mom. Start just spasm basil now just fucking go beserk tired chasing you to work for me. One of them out. Why why the road you remember squirting oils la dammit what's the show Bro. So far you Toronto no Amazon show girl was riding his head and it should bomb. Can you talk about the boys. The boys the negative face road negoti squash pumpkin dies. There's too many movies man I don't I just don't think this is a good idea. Man that the more we talking about it. How much does how much something like this way you say I I mean? Is this going to be not light. He's eating sex. Robots can't even pick them up kilos. The dragon bodies is around the career. Now yeah well so you wouldn't do it. Yeah okay okay. I wouldn't do it either. But a hundred and ten pounds by the way I feel like a real person field. It's not gonNA feel real dot es names come moment it's not skin. We put on a shirt but the technology is crazy. Though I'm sure they could make s you feel like skin I put some put. Some some veal wrapping veal or any meat beat name. Ah minutes news leaked US should have like a hand trash. They said about cash to cash. It looked like Straw me. Who but they say is the closest raw meat to feel like a vagina stuff? Some some. I'm just going to be you forget about style. Overheating is you get done and don't feel like cleaning want himself off the robot robot robot the big magazine insider hey robot sex's crazy the robots robots happened. Robot is not Tappan Man MOM's at work time us up on that buff you finished before the time time ago. It on the ground going crazy finishing official underground kind out of noise. The neighbors downstairs and they beat on the on the ceiling is robot GonNa be in your living room. So Oh brother on his floor Oh yeah Shit tapping robot sexist man. I mean that's the point of it you you like tapping if you're gonNA get a robot you like tapping out ethnic is don't last okay. Last five minutes with a real person I want to have on his last one with a robot knife life. You say they can't. They can't fuck with brother. Robots definitely going to be better edited moving and energy wise. I think this is rob. I'm looking at it as being robotic I am off I just would save repented switches. YEA and ain't do spectacular. Oh no I'm out to try to try to invest. It is legal to so you read to try to to try to invest in the game. I got some ideas. Can you maybe put settings on Abella Anderson Signature. move having taken their bro. So what you got bro sick go come back to the ACC with the knowledge that you've got now or ten million dollars today. All right what what. What would be easier for you to defend? I mean I'm taking ten million now. Okay good because I was gonNA cause because if I had this like if I actually could make the choice I would definitely Restart my life At the age of six nine. Oh no no but no honestly though you the NFL about like what would happen. If you could undo some mistakes na Neve now because I feel like I was supposed to supposed to go through that you definitely want to go through some shape but you can. Actually you can go through differently. I know there for me like okay so it's restart your life at six or ten million cash okay if I restart my life at six as Ten million to one chance. I'M NOT GONNA put myself in ten million dollar cash position. I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be able to get ten million dollars cash but there might be some things that I can change in my life to where I could maybe be live in the same way. I'm living now just more comfortably like we talked about it before. Would I went to college in racked up that debt starting start Alvis. It's probably not or if I'm starting at six. Would I do some shade differently during my school years where I get a scholarship or something like that to where I wouldn't have to worry about racking up debt you know what I'm saying. Just different place. That happened in my life. In the past I would probably try the handle a little bit differently to put me in a more comfortable position now but if you get ten meal you're not going to be a debt. We the best crazy to be. Nobody's in debt ten million dollars. Okay my uncle over ten million dollars I said he said if you He's like if you can't handle he said if you if you mismanaging a thousand dollars what makes you think you're going to be able to manage a million. That's why you hire people so I mean so you think you mismanage your money. Oh definitely definitely every at the end of every fucking week. I'm kicking myself with decisions. I made over the week and promised myself. I'm going to do better the next week. And and then don't do better the next week as it's a self discipline thing that I haven't really gotten down die. I can't I can't manage the X.. Amount of money that I'm making now I know for a fact I'm not going to be able to manage ten million right now in the palm of hand. I don't think I'm not I'm not like saying I'm not like like idiot. Anything I ain't stupid like I'm GonNa take ten million just blow so it but it's hard to blow to definitely definitely because I've done it but you're not but but what so you get ten million what going to a matter. I'm become an expert moving to the country. Buy some land. Probably I will do some. I don't know if it's going to be here in the states or no outside of the states number some land plan for sure in Wyoming Nah my Wyoming to beautiful women in Wyoming yet kind of women I like anyway lambreau probably about the country Bro. Kick Mom Luke Salton no buster on a couple of meals between family members now the island or some shit I said. And then that then whatever's left makes him aggressive loan. I WANNA know double triple my little ten million if I can hopefully make some getting in with with some with some No financial people to go would just be to to to get ten meal. It'd make more often on it. So that's why I would buy land. Yeah on things starting life over six really puts you in a position where you are level with somebody would typically dollars rethinking you decision. I mean it's. It's hard to debate the you're supposed to be doing. This is supposed to be on the side of starting life over sakes but no I mean you can go like you say pretty much all you can do for just pushing submachine differently. If you literally no and you remember everything with me going back to six Islam lose all my friends lose I of France out of people out and build relationships would they go restart your life at six. I'm I'm assuming you're GonNa go through everything that you've been through but you get you get to make a different decision. You See. Gotcha Gotcha so I mean. I'm trying to find forgot to say this like so. Everybody goes back to six year just yet you just go back how you thirty one. You just go back X.. Amount of years ago and everything you do up to today. Would you do everything the same anything that you definitely differently. I would. I mean I definitely. FBI Steel. I'm taking the ten. I think I'm taking the ten meal to fuck the other side of this argument on Dr Fru. I mean because angles angles eight a madman. Right now I'll say that I would regret van tomorrow so I go laissez. He'd be traveling with my baby up nine on. I'm not doing online but but no I mean yeah ten ten million right now now. I mean you know the only thing that I would do differently I six like you know what s did make me think when I first saw it was like man so you know how important it is to like. Teach kids about credit in different things like that like that shit is so important because I feel like just this past year I found Lee understood credit like like self taught like I've gotten to a point to where now okay I get I get the purpose of it. Understand how it's damaged understand how it's improved understand. You know what I've done on to put it in that position where I need to do to get better. Whatever whatever I get it now? Nobody's nobody's ever talked to me like this is credit this is this is. This is a bad credit score. This credit score you need credit because she needed like so. That's one thing that like Thinking like looking at this the one thing as far as red pill thing goes I would definitely I mean that was that would be one of the changes that I make some certain decisions. I Now and do it. May I ask you a question would you ever buy. Would you ever buy a brand new car zero mouse on it now. I mean I might get that testimony that trump we talked about. I'm saying I'm what I'm what I'm asking like you right now with the career. Are you in the money you make and everything would you not. Not If he was in a position to do it in your current position would you would never buy a new car. No they will never again. It's not a good investment. It's a horrible horrible investment and you just just like just look at the. I just looked at a number. I'm just like okay. Wait till my car is paid often again. Twenty twenty to start making extra payments on this shit going. ACL Yeah it should pay at the end of next year. We got. Make that fucking Kiev's the worst decision. I've made my life because like we we've already outgrown like we instantly outgrown. As soon is keen on seat changed is too small force. And that's the primary car and can I stay with my mom. We went to Disney last year. And we wrote down there in an OPTIMA KIA optima. It's like is that her. That's her car. That's how hard it was brand new. He was brand new. We just bought it like we bought it. One month went to Disney the next month like if literally isn't a huddle for eighteen hours and then it was regarded as a regular sedan. Right OPTIMA. OPTIMA is. Yeah it's like it's like a Corolla. ooh Yeah yes brand spanking new off the light so we ended up for great minute van brother. I know it but like I'm I'm I'm talking like she's like we we need A. She wants that fucking she he wants to tell you. Ride the big ass. It looked like a you know the Ford Flex look like just being yes man or now. Now yes this is a big bulky almost crossover looking. SUV is big and spacious and stuff like that and it looks nice but duck now astray Korean good. Because I don't know the first. That's the one thing I don't know the first thing about it and I'm not trying to upside down shit. You take take some shit in that you still paying on you'll be paying on that and what you get so you know. This is going upside down. I'm not I'm definitely. I'm sitting here now. Kicking myself over this one. You know what I'm saying so it's like I don't even I'm definitely not looking at another. 'cause she say about other guy. I begin so man Ray. Are you putting the closet. Yeah Yeah I think we need a real so yes changes tool. So He will tame Tame. I definitely take the ten minute. Beginning was trash. Yeah no I can't use like the debt and like Nick Tim meals. You can't pay your dad pretend to fuck what did you do that means. You had to mill before exit. Have you think about it. If you pay ten dollars. We get ten million dollars. Can't pay off your debt. Hat Samuel before yet intrigued it somehow now. Mc Hammer MC hammer title. Michael Jackson there but Yeah man feels good to be back. Y- man and we're going to be a consistent. Follow bit right you'll get Outta here man we going. We're going to let this fan Black Mama rock for Kobe rushton piece to the Mamba. We'll catch up next week man Gobi fell asleep was will appreciate the grace got scheme in all day. 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NBA PLAYOFF SPECIAL: Ric Bucher and Jason McIntyre on Dame Lillard, Top-10 NBA players, 2019 Free agency

In The Zone with Chris Broussard

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NBA PLAYOFF SPECIAL: Ric Bucher and Jason McIntyre on Dame Lillard, Top-10 NBA players, 2019 Free agency

"Yeah. Chris Broussard here and welcome to the brand new hoops on FOX podcast, this podcast will give you your daily dose of all things NBA from Fox Sports, including the best content from skipping Shani, Nick. Right. Plus special guests fresh NBA content from myself post game interviews from NBA stars around the league and much much more. Don't forget to subscribe and leave a five star review. What's up everybody? It's Jason McIntyre here with RIC Bucher, a special NBA playoff edition. Rick tremendous game last night in Portland, and okay. Damian Lillard ends the game with a thirty seven foot. Step back three. I loved the decision. Paul George took a shot at it. Your thoughts on the shot was a good shot or bad shot to end the game. It was a bad shot. That's a bad shot. Oh, no, no, no thirty seven feet of the it's a better shot for logo Lillard than it is for most other guys. Are you going to start that is that going to be a hashtag? Now. That's actually something. I was told he already been established because he'd hit a number of shots from that spot. So it wasn't the first time that he took it. And what I would. I appreciate appreciate about. It is that it was a reason there was thought that went into taking it. It wasn't just a bailout. I've got nothing what the hell I'll just hoist it. He knew that through the course of that game. He had been attacking the rim. Hadn't always been able to finish was getting bumped physically. They weren't making the calls. So he looked at it and said it's a tie game. I I have this shot in my bag. I'm not going to get the call. I'm the can't expect to get the call. And so I'm going to go ahead and take something that I know I've made before not just before five for five in the series beyond thirty feet for the season. Thirty seven percent. I think it's a good shot. Again. I like your logic with the they're gonna fallow and he's not going to get the call. I'm surprised. Okay. See didn't do something differently defensively at forty seven years the ball out of his hands. Let let anybody else beat me thirty seven feet away from the basket. You can't double A guy that far away. They have too many other guys who can score you don't need three instead of him taking a look if you're asking me, do I let Lillard take and by the way step sideways as harden. There was so much wrong with that shot. It wasn't even str-. Russ westbrook. Takes more technically correct shots than what that shot was stepping sideways. Falling back hitting it. Good on him that he made it. It says a lot about him. It's also a reflection of the fact that he knew coming off of last year when they got beat by the pelicans that going up against big guards and had Paul George on him that he needed to expand the floor for himself Steph curry Toth, exactly because of the size if he's playing from twenty six feet in now, you can double. Now, you can't trap the ball out of his hands. Now, you can't smother them and make him shoot over you from thirty seven feet. There's no I'm glad nobody said, Paul George. He will you should have closed out harder. Whatever thirty seven feet. You can't close out that hard in that situation. I'll say this. He opened the series. There's a clip floating around social media his first show. Within the first twenty seconds of the series was a three from the logo. And he made it to start the series. They're pretty incredible. All right. Let's move onto the next question. Rick does this series. And I know it's just four five games. Does it cement Damian Lillard? Is it top ten player in the NBA? No. I mean for anybody as of right now. Yes. In prisoners of the moment. Yes. Go ahead. Throw him in your top ten. He's a top ten and he's the best point guard I've ever seen. He's amazed by Rick twenty second time. I hold a lot of people are gonna vote him as second team all NBA point guard. Right. Yeah. That would put him in the top ten if you're looking at Korean harden is the first team kyri Dame's the second team. No, I know because its position its position he can be he can be the third or fourth best guard point guard and not necessarily be a top especially especially because if you if you're looking at guys like Kevin Durant and co why and Jaanus, and you've got any number of point four words that are going to be in that top. Let's quickly rattle through it. Okay. Honest. We both have topped James harden top ten Kevin Durant top ten Steph curry. Yes, lebron. Yes. Okay. So that's five. Yes. Kawai leonard. Let's put him to the sign right now. Okay. I have what I take that back put him in Irving. Would be seven put him in. Okay. Now, we're getting down to what I think is the tough area. Yes. Paul George is probably going to be the he's he's. Joel embiid. I have him in. Oh, you you're well and be to build your team around over Damian Lillard. I know it's simply sept- kind of a different question. But in a gourd wing league. Yes. But there's so much. Joel Embiid can do he can he has reigned my greatest concern about building around. Joel embiid. And somehow how did we go from our top ten two guys that we would build around or we? Okay. Well, that's the distinction because this is the thing that Philadelphia's going to have to face, Ben Simmons, and Joel Embiid cannot coexist on a championship team. We agree. Right. You're going to make a decision between those two if it's talent. There's no question. Joel Embiid is the guy that I keep and I moved Ben Simmons. But there's a there's a health back. I don't know. I mean, Joel Embiid for his age the fact that he's already sitting out gains with sore knees in a sore back like can't do back to back sees his fifth year in the league xactly can I count on that? So, but if it's just a matter of. Talent. When you're the best player at your position. And he is when healthy the best player at his position. I think I hear somebody at the door Anthony Davis knocking wants to know how you do not have three times all end the first team player Anthony Davis who a year ago. I team all NBA first team all defense. And now Anthony Davis because he missed twenty six games. He's chopped liver which year we're talking about six games because he's missed. Games. A lot of injury issues. You have him top ten. No. I always had this issue with AD is not in my top ten eight. Eighty might not be in my top fifteen. I am not all right down here. To hell wise, and this is kind of the distinction when we get into the Damian Lillard conversation because there are so many intangibles that Damian brings to the table his leadership, his his dedication to the Trail Blazers. And I know that sounds important, right? But the fact of the matter is like he's brought that team together. And this goes back to his AAU days. He was on the Oakland rebels. They were the team that wasn't sponsored they were the team that had to have bake sales and self jerky, and they had to do all kinds of things to scrounge up the money to go to turn amounts. The oakland. Soldiers were the day was team you wear the Nike sponsor team. Lebron came in and played Leon Powe a pill. Remember covering high school basketball back in exactly now, Damian will tell you the soldiers didn't want him the soldiers will say no Damian could complete for us. But he didn't want to know what he wanted Weaver state. Yeah. Bottom line is he stayed with the rebels and they eventually played a tournament where they beat the soldiers. He stayed with the group of his friends that he grew up playing with and he's always had that mentality that you know, what if I stay with if I stay loyal. If we stay together, our continuity, and our dedication to each other will Trump pure talent. So what we saw in what we've seen with these trailblazers is something that Damian Lillard has basically built his entire career on. And that's where that's one of those in town tangible that when you get to the NBA it's still about talent to find that. Really? Yeah. As a calorie that's about. Although the add one quick note is so I do have Dame top ten I would take him over Kawai Leonard right now, I think. He's got that Hiller mentality at the end game quite doesn't. I don't know that he does he play with the Spurs where he was second banana to Tim Duncan the greatest coach I need to see what he does in the Sixers series. I'm discounting the Orlando Magic who tried to defend him with Jonathan Gordon. Jimmy butler. Why Leonard's could be a show next? I like Butler lot the fiber in contention for top ten Jimmy bowler. Yeah. The first round matchups. I mean, you're also gonna see you're probably going to see a Leonard on Benson. Yes. A great deal and quiet. Leonard has eaten Benson's lunch benefits. Twenty to come on. Let's I I'm a big Simmons guy. But. See that's, but that's where that's where Kawais. Good quiet is good. As a he's a great two way player. My concern with him is not that he's not a closer. I think he's happy to have the ball at the end and take the shot. It's that does he make everybody better is he a playmaker. Or is he really kind of an isolationist where if I tell him to stop this guy. He can stop that guy. If I tell them to go score on this guy. He can score on this guy. But if I asked him to blend what you're doing with the rest of the team. Can he do he started his career as a blender in San Antonio? Let me just remind everybody Anthony Davis a year ago at this time swept Damian Lillard out. Now you had to help from holiday. Wait, wait. Wait, we holiday. We went way. We would it was Damian Lillard against Yousef nurture kits. All right. And the difference in that series was Rajon Rondo and drew holiday swallowed up CJ McCollum new and Damian Lillard and see McCollum and Damian Lillard came back this year and said we have a problem playing against big guards. I mean, let's be honest. I am not giving that series two AD AD, not different stats and funny. I was from this year, you know, who the best player on that team was even when eighty was there, you know, who it was, you know, who Julius Randle. You know, doesn't make it, sir. No, okay. Mr holiday. Yes. Yes. He was he was at the end of games. You talk about being a closer. That's my problem with eighty AD. All right. How wise I would agree with you is he a top ten talent. Yes. Because he's a great two way player athle-, but I'm putting him in that Tracy McGrady camp of guy who's a phenomenal talent as a basketball player a twenty this point. He still doesn't know what how can see headlines now Rick Anthony Davis is not a top fifteen player. That's a good art. Let's move onto the next one Rick. Okay. We'll put a button on the thunder season pull George turns twenty nine and may Russell Westbrook. Thirty one in November. Thunder have a lot of soul-searching to do. I think the second highest luxury tax in the league can't not a lot of wiggle room. What do you do? Do you try to trade? Russell westbrook. And does anybody want that salary? I don't think he's straight Paul George your thoughts on where the thunder go from your no chance no way that they trade either. One of those guys. Let's not forget, it is Oklahoma City. Yeah. And the ability to sign superstar players to long-term contracts is the exception not rule. They were able to do that. You also have to superstars in Russ and Paul George who are compatible, but do they play well together, I think they can't play well together wretches Russell Westbrook can become a sharer. I know he's a great assistant. He can become a distributor and seed to pull George for parts. But. For a full season and a couple of rounds in the playoffs. I don't know that this ever going to get out of the first round was I I fully believe that they have that capability. Rush does have to change. But I saw rush change from last year. Russ the last time you saw him last year was against the Utah Jazz. When he scored what forty five points on forty three shots. It was the battering ram Russ Westbrook. I saw different Russ Westbrook. This year. Paul George doesn't become an MVP candidate if Russ west is not willing to take a back seat. Now. Paul George got hurt. And then rush took over again. I can't fault him for the I will go to game five fourth quarter leading by fifteen. Yes. About eight nine minutes left Russ's down the stretch. A couple of big shots late third early fourth down the stretch. He misses the layup. Twenty seconds less couple turnovers. Couple missed jumpers. He didn't have confidence in jumpers. He's deferring to Schroeder. Sure. What? I know. You're arguing both ways. Like, he doesn't defer. He doesn't play with others, but Schreuder is on fire from three and he's giving the ball. And now we're going to criticize him for that. I can't do that. And by the way, he says he's g got the ball. Plenty of time to free throw those last five six minutes. They hit any one of those. Okay. So. The blame game. Billy Donovan, let's get him out of town Stephen Adams gonna blame him. They didn't have Andre Rovers because that's what I'm out here on when I turn on TV or radio blame Russ Westbrook psychiatrist or the one that he hasn't hired yet. Because ultimately, that's if Russ plays with the poise and blending his game with everybody else the way he did last night. He does that for the entire series. He does that all year long. Then they're not the succeed. And they've had some practice under pressure situations of operating that way. It's just he he suddenly faced elimination and he decided, you know, what I gotta stop. All this rates thing. I just got to be focused on the job at hand. Date on Lillard has been focusing on that approach four year. Rush shot thirty six percent for the series. All right. Let's move on next question. So nine free agents on this list. We're trying to tears of free agent. We'll go through a couple layups, we won't spend anytime. Can they be a number one and alpha on a championship team this or number two or three? Kevin durant? Get that out of the way easily come into rant and Leonard have both demonstrated that they can be the best player on a championship team. So you put them there. I would also put kyri Irving interest on that tier one because I think Boston's going to win it this year still saying that it's bite of them. Trying to prove me wrong all year long the regular season. And he does have a championship to his name where he hit the big shot any any played a big role. So has fully earned that status. Anybody who wants to say not quite yet? I'm with you. I believe that he can't. So I'm gonna put him in disagreement there now where it gets a little tricky. Skies like Klay Thompson Jimmy Butler Kemba Walker are they all two's is clay more of a three can Jimmy Butler via one as he wasn't Chicago. When he had some great showdowns with LeBron the east who do you? Let you go first who do you wanna start with Klay Thompson can be to? He can be a second best player on on the right team. I believe in many ways if you look at the warriors pre pre K D he was essentially that yesterday on green played a big role Harrison Bondra Dala, Shaun Livingston. It was a collection on that team. Klay Thompson demonstrated in the postseason. A we need to get a game with our backs against the wall. He did it against Oklahoma City Claes it to Jimmy Butler who was maybe a two in Minnesota. I know him Andrew Wiggins and admit of turf war. I don't know who the two is to your guy. Joel Embiid in Philly Tobias Harris who will get to. Shortly. I personally may big Jimmy Butler fan. I think I cannot wait for the Kawai Leonard showdown. I have Butler's too Rick. So I have originally when I'm looking at my list, and I went through this. I had clay Jimmy Butler Tobias Harris Kemba Walker all on that second level because I think that and I don't championship. But if you took Kemba Walker and you had to play with LeBron James, I think he could be a poor man's, Cairo Irving. I think he has that potential. Okay. But to be honest, if I really look at this. It's Katy kyri on the first level Klay Thompson on the second level. And then I'm not sure that I can put anybody else real on that second love because he doesn't shoot it. Well, enough, maybe. Well, and what has he done like? Asia for one okay? Well, and and if it wasn't for Rajon, Rondo they're not even doing what they did there. So I don't know that Jimmy has earned that status to bias Harris. I like a lot I think he I think both Jimmy and Tobias have the capability of being that. But have they proved to me that they are that Thompson has proved through? Those guys they still need to show me so Tobias you have on the same level of Jimmy Butler. I put them in sort of the same category. Yes. Okay. All right. Kemba walker? You think can be a Kyrie Irving. Let's move on to a couple of guys who are going to face off. This Chris Middleton Al Horford can either of those guys to we've seen Horford on some good hawks teams. I don't think he's a two at this age is career. No. He's not a to Chris Middleton is he he's a nice story. I mean, he he's an all star if he's lost. Okay. You said if LeBron gets Kemba Walker potential contender. It gets Chris Middleton on what criminals are great shooter one of the best shooters in the league all-star this year. So it was called coups. I mean. I mean like, Chris, and I don't wanna take as a G league guy who became an all-star. My hat is off to Chris Middleton. But his Chris Middleton going to be any better than he is right now. What's the Tobias Harris? I think can can be better. I actually think Kemba Walker can be better. But as does Kemba fit to he needs the ball all the time high volume player in Charlotte. I know you had no number two or three. I think you can I think you can play Campbell off the bowl the same way. I mean, we say that Kyrie Irving always needs the ball. Right. I think he needs the ball in certain situations. It depends on what you have. You have a play making three. Then I think that Kemba Walker can be what he is. And can be very effective in that way. Yeah. I like all these guys. I I think you're low on criminal. So the books. In store. They have the biggest odds to win the east. They're the favorites to go to the finals. Chris Middleton, clearly their second those in good who's who has them as the favorites to go to the final the guys in the desert who booked casino, sending lines for many many years. So just to be clear Middleton three. So do you have them as their three or Eric Bledsoe there to now let's has been phenomenal. I team all defense. Very this is what makes makes Milwaukee difficult and challenging is that it's a collection. Yeah. That is the two or three, you know, it's Chris Middleton is is the beneficiary of a very good team. And they had to pick somebody to be an all star to represent present that team because they were so good. You have to have a second all star. So what is numbers were there? Unfortunately, I don't have them in front of me. But Chris Middleton. He's a very he's very good. But he wanted to make them a six make Vinnie Johnson coming off the vet. He I mean, he's three he's a three. Okay. All right. Let's move on to everybody's favourite free agent. Kevin durant? And this one listen you've been saying into the Knicks. The world has followed. You I remain on. Kevin Durant should stay island. I don't know how we really wanna frame this. But when you look at upside for Kevin Durant longtime legacy would it mean more for him to win four straight in Golden State where he could win four straight finals MVP's something Michael Jordan, never did Larry Bird magic. None of those guys in the modern era have won four straight. Or would it be more beneficial for him to leave in when title the way LeBron now, LeBron went home Katie would be going somewhere as a mercenary to New York or Brooklyn or the clippers or what have you in the minds of basketball, people staying there and winning four would be infinitely more valuable than going any place else and winning another one. It's just that. Kevin Durant isn't looking at things in a conventional sense. Like, we're all judging it based on standard basketball legacy. Well, let me. Who basketball people people who are on the league fans media former players, how would you want to qualify that? I mean, all of the above players GM's executives. Everybody is of the mind stay, I mean, look what you have. And you're you're going to be good. You're going to be good for while. And you're gonna win more championships in your in in the bay area. Like, what's not to light? I look valley enter capital, but K D doesn't look at it in the pure prism of I could win four championships in a row and nobody's ever done that because he has ANSA Larry things that he wants to accomplish and challenges that he wants to take on and one of them certainly is that he wants to be in. This is the supreme confidence that he has build it around me. Let me go get a championship. Let me do it in a big market of big market where I can take advantage or or pursue all of the business and outside interests that I have. He wants to conquer a lot of kingdoms saying to him. Yeah. But you could you could conquer the basketball kingdom is like. I could. But there's like three or four other ones that I wanna get and he's never gonna conquer those in the basketball. Just four straight is only going to be what thirty one this fall. Yes. I mean, this would be three straight if he wins it and four if he stays, but I don't know. I put them in the Jordan LeBron discussion if he can do four straight, especially if he continues with the finals MVP's, the stats are there, the stats are there. But the look nobody's even as of right now when you ask people who's the best player in the league right now. Everybody has to kind of think about it. Oh, not me. It's no doubt about it since he got to Golden State and destroyed LeBron head to head in the final. But here's you are unique. Because I think most people still look at it as Katie joining a championship team. I just for a guy who's one two finals MVP's. I've never seen a guy who's done that who still looked at as a member of the band because he's not really, but he's George hair. Trading here, these not used visible, but these dopes out there on social media. Well, he just joined they had lost the finals. He's won the finals MGB twice. Yes. Michael Jordan, one nothing without Phil Jackson, one nothing without Scottie Pippen. Okay. But, but even you would say to this point, it's still Steph Curry's team and still does more in this intern intangible way as a leader as involving everybody. I mean, there's still the criticism this year when it becomes two K D Centric. They're not as good. So that's that's the rub. And who's and here's and here's this is the other part when it comes to basketball, and this has been Katie this is people who know him have been with him for a long time told me at his heart. The thing that he gets the most pleasure from is putting the ball in the basket is being that supreme score. He likes nothing more than that in with the warriors. Ears. He's always having to share. He's always having to be part of and winning a ring as part of as opposed to winning a ring. And you know, what I get the light everybody up whenever I want. And but Rick we both know listen if he goes to New York life is lonely when you're passing a Frank Miller kina and whoever's left on that awful roster. I mean that team is so bad. He's going to need Zion. And Kyrie Irving you. He wants to win a ring new. You know, who I am? I'm Katie the amount of confidence that we have with Russell Westbrook and James harden against. Lebron wade. They were young. They went to the finals they had a coach who had never been there before they were going up against a team that was out for revenge. Yeah. There were a lot of dynamics there. How about this? If he goes to New York. Yes. And they don't get the second round because stays or the Sixers keep their core or the bucks add somebody then what forget about. Kevin Durant is a top player in the league. That's a joke to and that's such negative thinking, I'm a positive guy creek much Christmas sard around Rick. I it started to become negative. Let's katie's not looking at. Oh. But what if Katie is looking when look at all the things that I could do you get on and kyri guy understand that I think they can win that. But all right. Let's move on. Finally, NBA TV ratings are down. I believe eighteen percent was in Abruzzo yesterday. Feels like an NBA finals matchup with the rockets in the warriors. Rick for the league's sake who they want to win. In this series, Golden State and the same old gold and say worse or new blood in the Houston. No. You have to have the Golden State Warriors. You have to have the king. You have to have Steph curry K D the star power. No offense to James harden. Chris Paul's not quite there will be angry to hear this. Well, but he's just he's not the same player. He's not on the same level. But the warriors the familiarity sells the stardom cells and the idea that you could have warriors and the Celtics. We're looking at Toronto e we're looking at Milwaukee. Okay. May I wonder if the honest brings in a different global meal to the game, he's not a very relatable player. He's just a total unicorn at what six eleven with the wingspan of Condor. I don't think kids can relate to him the way they can Steph curry and just he's not fully bloomed yet when it comes to being able to attract people like that. But I believe the main reason that we're seeing the percentages fall off is because the NBA has become a a game where the interest is in the transaction. Yeah. There's more interest in where K D is going to play next year. And who lebrons is going to get next next to him. Then there is about the actual game. You don't you're not excited for the warriors blazers Western Conference sweep well, I daily actually I am because you have to home courts have to arri. Anna's that are awesome. But see in like one little quadrant in the country. Easy travel for me. Yes. Yeah. Trouble. And the atmosphere is going to be phenomenal. But here's the thing. I'm going to be in those buildings. I know these guys I know the history of these guys. So for me, I'm I'm an outlier in that. I still love watching the game. I know how much Lillard being from Oakland doesn't want it to be Steph Curry's town like there's there's so many dynamics there that I wanna watch. And I want to watch them play out on the court. But I think the the landscape that the NBA has conquered. When it comes to sports fans has been with people who play fantasy sports who don't necessarily love the game of basketball. They love the idea making transactions imagining what if it was Katie LeBron together or Jimmy Butler and kyri and Katie got together New York like the fantasy aspect of following. Sports. Is it clipping reality? My wife. Rick tried to propose vacation the first week in July. I said there's no we have seven superstars leave in the league. I gotta be all over this. All right, folks. Four RIC Bucher, I'm Jason McIntyre that your NBA playoff special. Thank you for listening to the hoops on FOX podcast. Don't forget subscribe and leave a five star review letting us know what you think of the show.

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Week's Best (LeBron vs. Durant, Ezekiel Elliott, Cowboys, Baker Mayfield, Heisman hunt)

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

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Week's Best (LeBron vs. Durant, Ezekiel Elliott, Cowboys, Baker Mayfield, Heisman hunt)

"Welcome to the weekend edition of the undisputed podcast on your host, Johnny Taft. Today's podcast features all the best segments from this week sleet of undisputed with end up interviews and discussions. We have a lot to talk about heading into next week, skip, Shannon. Let's get to it. Let's start with LeBron and Durant because yesterday NBA dot com, released their annual survey of the league's GM's and they were pretty unanimous that LeBron Katie are the best players on the planet. The GM predicted that LeBron would win MVP this season with Durant finishing second LeBron was also voted the best mall forward. And they said the king is the best leader the most versatile and has the highest basketball IQ. And when asked which player they would want taking a shot with the game on the line, the GM's said Durant. So Shannon, what's your takeaway on how the GM's view LeBron Katie LeBron was the best passage, but all right, we thank you. I almost go. So now now, so I'll bet you said that keep that in mind. You said LeBron the best passed? I say, like every day. Okay. Skip Bayless. Why are you talking again? Why are you talking? She asked me, I didn't ask you a question. I didn't get to a rhetorical part. I didn't even know I was taught you. Exactly. Well, this validates and confirmed what I knew to be true all along that LeBron James is the best player in the NBA these thirty men, their sole job is to a value, wait talent. That's what they're paid to do. Bayless man. These guys could not both for their own player LeBron James finished first in eight different categories. He received at least one boat in fourteen different categories. Kevin, the rampant is I in one category, he finished got a boat at least in ten different categories. So that tells me when you the best Powell small forward Asser lead is I q greatest leader in tears task, getting bet LeBron James is universally regarded as the best player in the NBA. Now you mentioned all the time that LeBron James was the best passer, these general managers validate and convert what you've been feing. So we're now I need you to confirm invalidate what I've been saying that LeBron James universally. He's unquenched. You just lean salad lead to the wrong. Skip. Don't do that. That is becoming someone of your character. You'll your, you're ill that you'd be a neat of my basketball. I, I've been trying to tell you this. Look at this hairs, a man is you're in your sixteen. We've never seen anything like this before someone a year sixteen being regarded as the best player in the NBA or for that matter. I mean seven straight years get. He's been preceding picked to win the MVP seven, three, seven, okay. And you argue with me, you wanna go back and forth up living in the past now, or I don't know what is this about now or then? No. Hold on. They said in the twenty if I'm not mistaken, these based on what we have been twenty eight t l. so he finished number one in eight different categories based on what skip. Now he got a boat in fourteen different categories based. On what now. So what are we talking about the the thing is hard is that when you debating you make a case for one guy, people to medically lead to the conclusion that you're trying to be little or be rate the other GATT two things can be true. Kevin Durant is great second best player in the NBA. Top dog. You know, you put the top when you go to the grocery store, they put the best of what level I level. They don't want you to reach poet. They don't want you to bend down for all of that. I know you don't. Stop boys know that I would why, but I just know certain things read I levels get turn to your right to my left. Who in the front. Three. Oh three. Okay. Best leader you to tell me you don't Kevin Durant tonight. Yet one vote for the best league skill trying to figure out how can the bath. Now you tell me Tom Brady, if not only the best player, he's the greatest leader Charlie playing team for. I'm trying to figure how can the great of NBA player not get one. You mean to tell me a very good question you just asked, what is your turn. You ask a question would have to ask him, but yes, all follow all by listeners out there. Seven odd trae yet. Several hundred thousands can stop hating. What do you care. Turn? No, you asked me another. All I'm saying skip is that if LeBron is not the greatest, that twenty nine people because you own or manage for you. Hopefully these really? Okay. So by the way genes, nice outfit late too late that trains gone. So we'll see where we go. It is now might turn and my take away from this GM survey which is now is that they're finally seeing what I've been seeing and that is that Kevin Durant has closed the gap on LeBron James because last year LeBron James got fifty percent of the MVP vote fifty. That's half. That's a lot. Yes. This year he has plummeted all the way down to only thirty percent of the MVP votes. Wow, that's that's actually shocking to me because I do think he's going to win the MVP just because of his circumstance playing with a bunch of kids in cast-offs in good. Yeah, I love how he plummeted. He wasn't first place. He plummeted all the way down fifty percent of the boats all the way down to thirty percent, but what place and guess, what. Kevin Durant right on his tail. It's thirty to twenty seven and VP percentage. Thirty percents twenty seven more than thirty. It's not. But how close is it? It's only three percent off. I'd say gap is narrow wing, and then we get to the all important final category. This is almost at the end of the survey and they saved the best for last. The question is which player do you want taking shot with the game on the line? This is it and this is clutch city. What. Heaven Durant, buried LeBron James in this category twenty nine general manager says, Sharon, sharpen. They know what they know. They see what they say, and they gave Kevin Durant, forty percent of those votes LeBron's seventeen percent. So forty percent to seventeen say. I want the ball and Kevin Durant hands with the game on the line who so now we've got most valuable and then we got most clutch and most valuable is very close. But most clutch is not even close, which I'm I'm saying, the pendulum swinging toward Kevin Durant in this survey. Wouldn't you? Because that's significantly does not skip. Well, forty. I love how to had like forty different categories. You pick the one category that Kevin Durant the two most important categories most valuable, most clubs. So I thought you told read into story while the rest of its window-dressing. Oh, I'm glad you say that and don't ever miss and Tom Brady and leadership again, because window-dressing is he in this song. No, no, no, no, no. No, you put Tom Brady, and here you would get one hundred percent. Man, I love how you did this. Okay. You said most? I didn't do anything. I just okay. You confirm that Kevin Durant was first on taking the last shot? Forty percent to seven, still only seventeen percent want the ball LeBron's hands, scared. If you don't mind me asking who was second. I don't remember curry. We're, we're just talking about k. d. curry those to gather them same team because LeBron tried to take them back. But, hey, LeBron was third. If you don't mind me asking who's fourth on that list. One carry urban, the guy that will be killed by told me to hear same LeBron legacy. That was the general manager said they would rather have LeBron James, it's irrelevant, questions, relevant. Are we trying to distract our viewers from what I just said? I think we are trying to move everybody's eyes away from what I just stated in close the on Kevin Durant over LeBron James. But what about Steph? What about Kyrie? I don't care about Kevin this. Let me ask you this. I've beat you eight times in a raise. You beat meet once you better than me one category. He was one in forty category about Kevin Durant areas categories. Hi, welcome the because you said so we could keep going. Okay. Well, you go in this category, best defensive player LeBron getting votes in that category. What you wouldn't Kevin. Most versatile defender. I think it's my. Yes, rack knowing mashing them Durant got votes in the defensive player of the year category, best defensive player, right? Who votes what I don't care about that I'm asking you to respond, what? Why didn't I learn about that LeBron votes out. Okay, so so basketball is half offense and half defense at least Kevin Durant got some consideration for best best defensive player, which I've been telling you he is coming toward being that guy. He's up there in the top five you until that he I'm trying to figure out why the closing the gap. If he has a big plus for Kevin Durant, he's got defense a player, consolidating this, all I know is out of the categories Kevin Durant, finished first and one LeBron finished first in eight out of Kevin because that's the category that you won't on that argument. Robert ory is the best bet with the best best best basketball player when you play because he was the most clutch. Robert ory would've never gotten one vote for in VP, not even. One, he wouldn't have gotten one percent. He wouldn't have gotten a point one percent or a point Ono. One percent trying to tell you given to rent is the second best basketball player. You've been trying to validate that. He's one now you trying to make the argument where he closed the gap. Why the closing the gap of he's the bath. You saying he bet that what you see in by the way there's there's another category, which player would you want to start your franchise with right now? And guess what Kevin Durant got more votes than LeBron James fagged LeBron than you're sixteen and gala vote timeout. So LeBron is thirty three years of age. Kevin Durant is thirty years of age, so there's not a huge age difference there or use different relieved three, three years in age, no league different, Kevin, Iran of going to two b. two straight NBA finals. LeBron has gone to eight straight and all the modest. Don't do that all the mileage. I don't know straighten MBA five. Just in a vacuum right here right now, we'll Magic Johnson. And boy you want to start is trying to figure out Clinton to is so click has. He's so clutch close the game. He close the deal. He had a chance in game five, six and seven, three one against Golden State to hit a shot to be clicked to be a defendant and close the deal, get paid. If you don't mind me asking, can you tell people what happened? What happened in game three. The last two years. Can I get you for one question just one question. What happened do 'cause I know when you're showing me what happened, I was on your show because remember I told you, I'm going to the parade. I told you I would go into the Burri you Bill? I do. Okay. But you also switched your pick at the last second and you did not pick the Cleveland cavalier, they'll going to operate you chicken out. Okay, folded a all of this LeBron James is number one in eight different categories like best small Ford best powerful. He's like. None of that makes sense. I don't know. I guess they think he's the center. I don't know. We'll go with them even the league in blocks last year. I don't know skew. Now all of a sudden you don't. You want to let people know that you don't know anything about basketball. You only know the position carry the Ringling. You know what? He plays a small fold. If you don't mind me asking, who is the number one small forward. I think it was LeBron. You got all the nose right down. So why? Why would it be thirty to twenty seven in MVP consideration but but all seven lebrons the best this and the best that doesn't make sense together. Maybe they got a different group voters on that one. Right. If skew what you mean to the different group of you've been telling me that cabinet better. Everybody come of, here's told you from Magic Johnson to create Haines, who knows NBA bear with all the players come up here and tell you, but that's not what you wanna hear Johnson going to tell me when he thinks he can land LeBron James, what's he going? What about the general manager? They can't land. What about the players? What have I told you about Kevin Durant? He is a cold blooded killer in the clutch LeBron is supremely talented, nice guy. So what are we going to scotch? What we gonna do about those last shot in the playoff this year? Why are we gonna do about those shots? What are we gonna do about them skill? Well, that's an interesting question because in jump shot, walk off, it took LeBron six years before he finally made. One and I can show you time. And again, when he ran from the free throw line at the end of the game by jacking up long. And then you go back, you know, just looking at his career. This is his legacy business why he only got seventy seventeen percent of the vote with seventy. You told me I couldn't go back talking about what have you done for me, but they're looking at who do you want with the ball in his hands and they're looking at the history of each player. That's where you have to factor in what have you seen over time? And what you've seen is that LeBron at the free throw line last better, free, throw shooter better, three points you LeBron's fifty, seven percent free throw shooter with the game on the line last five seconds over time with whoever who has more game winners. I don't know, but LeBron's played as you said so many not Nath well, now that's the argument. Now we're not try to tell you before they won't Kevin Durant LeBron has been in the league for years longer, and he's going to eight straight finals. And you sprinkle in a couple of lympics in their Kevin Durant is going to tooth straight final, really skill to straight MVP. Look here. First of all, if LeBron James had ever blown at three one lead regardless who it was to, we would never ever let live this down. Kevin Durant headed three one leave, and you know why they don't gyms has gotten swept twice in the finals in five gamed once really the measure but high. Kevin Durant, got zero votes for leader's ship wrote. That's why that's that is just because they say, you can't be a leader when you go during the two time MVP you can't be a leader when you go during the seventy three and nine team that leading so lean skip. If you already in the front after game four. The first round, the playoffs this year, big turnaround game for Golden State against the New Orleans. Pelicans, one, Andre IGA said after the game that Kevin reminded me of m j in this game. He said, I don't like that comparison, but he got his spots and there is nothing you can do about it. And when you see that look in his face, it carries over to the rest of the guys and we can't intern take that to the defensive in and get stops and go back and do the same thing because it's just the rub off effective Kevin Durant on that team. He was the difference maker. He is the best player on a warriors, not arguing that we are bit player in the league in the year. Like you just asked me Magic Johnson thought he had a chance to LeBron. So what would these supposed to say. Andrei Igwe dollar plays with Kevin Durant. What's he supposed to say? Well, he also said that he's the most talented score of all time hands down. He's a walking thirty points. You'll get thirty on twelve shots said, well, we never, but we've seen. But we do it just because someone says something doesn't mean to make it true. Whether you like, or will right? He's he, yeah, George, Will's, really, but you don't like it, but he's saying he's had a quote. I think something like this and don't quote me on this, but I think it goes something like this. He's lies that goals on shakes, get chronicle truth. So you keep reiterating Andre, Andre said this, Audrey says that I'm gonna check your every time you saying it's a lie. I'm checking you. Average call on dollar and a liar. He just said Iggy alive, and he mows live national TV really do take. Most guys need to feel the ball in their hands to get a lot of rhythm. Not Kevin. That's what ondre says. Have you seen LeBron said Katie is a seven footer who can hit a heavy, pull up from fifty feet out unstop. Why I'm not nine. Thank you. Have you seen those game winners Ron here? Did you see where you pulling up from in the playoffs? I, I saw him in his fifteenth season and he made one in regulation against Jimmy Butler. That was a good one. That was, of course, they're all these games are tied. What he's gotta be a caveat I'll go. I can't let it go. And then we know what happened against all the depot, deep LeBron goal tinnitus shy in the Pacers all looking at the referee, like what is up with this. You're not gonna call goaltending and LeBron goes to the other. It makes the game winner way to go LeBron shoots the runner against the rookie nudity. The runner and he, I don't think he called Glen Day. It was just one of those. What's though accidentally made it off all game really for number one seed. Interesting swept the number ones these high game game game. No real pressure because if you miss, you go to overtime, but game one or the files this year ball in hand top the circle switch, he's got Steph curry, little six-foot-three Steph, Curry's on choose, pull up and shoot it, but wait a second, wait a second. What's the circumstance? You're down one. It's maker miss. It's do or die right now. He's not gonna. Shoot that shot. He's gonna pass it hills. Why are we doing this? Why everything? That's why they don't want the ball in this man's hand. That's not what you say. That's not what they said. They didn't say they didn't want to. They just more general manager for Kevin Durant and ninety percent to seventeen. I can't say agree number. What happened when Kevin Durant did the heavy pull up on LeBron the first game three days ago, he just pulled up shot at right in his face. It was game over still one county. Skill that's the category. Okay, that's that's the Michael Jordan memorial, Michael Jordan, memorial category goes to Kevin Durant. Here's the thing this would've doing and the Bronwyn that category and Kevin Durant with MVP. You said, see, he's clutch, but the general manager Kevin Iran's the best player, but now see you wanna use that one caveat that one, he's more click LeBron won eight of the categories. Hey, and Kevin Iran didn't get a voting leaders you he's gonna get IQ because I always tell you got the highest. I q in basketball, LeBron basketball. All. Best passer, so he's going to win that. I don't even get the small forward power. Lunacy. What are you talking to Michael Jordan? Play with your center. Okay. The toes. Oh, info is not lunacy. Oh, come all skill. I don't know what you're talking about. So now all of a sudden positions doesn't matter. I'm gonna give you one category nece. There was one category. You did not point out and I'm gonna have to help you make left of your argument because you completely swung and miss. But the one category is which player most forces the opposing coach to make changes to make adjustments in LeBron dominated that category over Kevin sixty percent to seven percent. And I'm saying why he makes you change what LeBron because Kevin's the guy with the unstoppable show. I don't know. I'm gonna give you that one, but it's a head scratcher. Give it to me give it to the wrong. I think that you can't adjust to Kevin. It's like he doesn't even call for the category because there's nothing you can do. You could put five guys on him and he's just going to rise up and make another jump shot. That's what it is. What in seven feet who can shoot LeBron's six nine who can't shoot. Okay, this will help you. Maybe you can help me do here the most talented score. He can get your thirty on eleven twelve shots. He has the most unstoppable shop at shot in all of basketball. He can hit you pull up and fifty. Why couldn't this guy of three one close the deal. When you one game clock, he can't win you one game. Well, he was handicapped. That that you do that rose, not gonna let you do that Russell Westbrook roughly. More credit. And I think Kevin did that to Russell Westbrook because I told you what he decided I cannot win a championship with that man as my primary decision-maker Inbal and was saying the same thing because. Okay. I'm just saying that's what Kevin decided, and that's why he said, I'm going to go begrudge, came in from leave it, but don't pretend like he didn't. He wouldn't have three one. Maybe that wasn't caring to rant in. Maybe he wasn't foot call. Maybe he grew the Golden State. Maybe he didn't have that heavy pull up well, who got to choose whether he got to shoot every time every time down the floor who got to choose Russell Westbrook got to choose. Now he went to a team that shares the basketball, but that team knows that it's bread is ultimately buttered by that guy thirty MBA no, they're Brad is butter by twenty three and the purple Ingo Shannon, horrible Ango as close only time debate. Offloading of these question Gordon. And you tell me Katie, wait, wait, best draft. Sorry, best rest, Ginny Taff. All team be put now go. Go throwing me off my game. Seven is coming there. It was the last category. You got best dressed on the NBA take it. You know. Judas kissed, oh, Jesus. And then all of them out. All right, Tom Brady and drew Brees can both make history this week, but who has had the more impressive career. This is going to be. Elliott was dealing with ankle pain against the lions on Sunday, but he still had one of the best performances of his career racking up two hundred forty total yards and touchdown is currently leading the league in rushing almost one hundred yards ahead of the second place guy out girly through twenty nine games in his career. Zeke is on a historic pace to pass Jim Brown's, all-time record one hundred four point three, rushing yards per game. Shannon will Zeke being all time we're running back. It's only twenty nine games in before address that skill. Can we address this? Can we start with this? Now? All of a sudden Zeke is dealing with knee and ankle pains. Zeke has yet to show up on the injury port, not one because I made sure me and my trusted research, Steve, we win back on it. Yeah, we win because I wanted to see. I think you have a whole team. What I got. We stop worrying about this guilt. We'll heavily compensated. So I got some of the best research of our land. We went back and we scoured and we looked weak. One knows eek week too nosy week, three week bore nosy, not Zeke is dealing with this and he's not on the in report the NFL's gonna wanna know why because in nineteen ninety eight the Broncos got fine because we knew John Elway wasn't gonna play the Monday night game in Kansas City. Bubby did now me and my big mouth. Jenny. I'm saying, we knew all week that John wasn't going to play out. I didn't know you got your team, busted, I drive, yes. Oh, cost of fifteen grand. Wow. So out of your check. Come up about shit, you responsible. I was you give address niche and I felt bay. So you, oh, the Broncos fifteen grand. That's a drop in your bucket cinema check. But anyway, if Zeke Elliott is been dealing with these ankle in injuries and not showing up on the injury report, you know the NFL's going to want to know why now back to their original question, can Zeke being all time great. Yes, because he has that ability in. This is why they drafted tyrant myth in the first round this Wedneday draft traffic, Fred, you're in the first round. Is that marring right now, but go ahead. This is a running football team. Look at quarterback. Jim Brown had look at the quarterback, Eric Dickerson had look at some of the guys, but can we slowed down genie, twenty, nine games. Jim Brown played a hundred and eighteen games. So back then, Jim, they were twelve games in the regular season. Jim Brown played nine years. So he played every single game for nine years. So Zeke had five and a half more years to get to one eighteen. There've been a lot of guys, the guy that sits richness goes a couple of times a week, skip, Eric Dixon at twenty nine games. He averaged a one nineteen which is fourteen more yards per game, rushing z.. Neil Dickson had over thirty nine hundred yards in his first two years. I played with a guy and I said this had he stayed in Denver, he'd be a hall of Famer Clinton Portas thirty one hundred yards. Thirty one touchdowns twenty nine games. How did that work out? There been a lot of guys over one hundred yards limousine. Dixon won nineteen Clinton port one, one, four. I think Zeke is at one. No. No, Clinton won seven. I think Zeki that one four to have Chris Johnson one or two, Edward, James one hundred. That's the first twenty nine. But you know, there's a reason why there have been hesitant to get running backs contract after the age of twenty five twenty six because that wear and tear there's something called a pounding. There's something called Kerry's. You start getting three hundred three fifty, four hundred. Now all of a sudden you're not that same guy anymore. Why is Levy on sitting out right now? He's say themselves note another four hundred hundred. My body so Kip does. He has the ability, but there's a reason why there have been so many that started a head of the pace of Jim Brown. At some that year five years, you're seven. They come back down to earth. So let's just hold off about him breaking Jim Brown's record as far as most average most rush yards per game. But can he be a pantheon? Great running back. Absolutely. Abs-. -olutely. So two quick points before I answered Jimmy's big picture question Ty Smith and Travis Frederick Zack. Martin were drafted to protect Tony Romo paper machine, Tony in the pocket. That's why they were around period in store because they were drafted before easycall. Elliott was dragged running back. It just didn't DeMarco Murray now, but everything was based around built around paper machine, Tony, Romo. That's what it was. I'm sorry. That's what he was. Who had who has the most rushing yards single season in cowboy history when the guy that have the most rush yard by accident, how this you had Tony fling it all over everywhere and they were pretty good. No, no, no, no, no, no. Why would you do that? So the other point is, obviously Zeke is not worthy of being on the injury report because Stephen Jones and the interview he gave yesterday's just operating with gamesmanship. He's trying to make Houston maybes if the're whatever, he's got bursitis in his knee and he's got an ankle problem. He had the ankle problem mid game on Sunday. Then what happened? He kept happening. Nothing happened. Nothing wrong with the. Thank you very much. So I'll go with that. Now back to the question, here's my big picture point. Ezekiel Elliott is better than Emmett Smith just in a vacuum. He's just better and I covered Emmett Smith for years in Dallas. So I know what I speak of here is equal. Elliott is bigger. He's faster. He's str-. Longer. Overall, he runs more. He runs more strongly than Emmett ran, and he has better hands than at, although that year ninety five when it was so special, he caught sixty two balls. That's a lot of balls, but they are all little flip passes. Swing passes. Little safety. Valve passes. He can't do what Zeke did to win the game Sunday, which is to run around out of the slot and go down, catch it over show overhead. So given all that, I'll take Zeke in a vacuum. One game from my life. I'm going with these equal, but let's just put this in context right now as we speak. Zeke Elliott is exactly this far behind Emmitt Smith's rushing total for his career. Fifteen thousand three hundred sixteen yards. That's the margin between Emmett Smith and Zeke. And if you just take that margin alone, that's the third highest rushing total in league history. So he would from this point forward have to have the most. The third most rushing yards in the history of the NFL to catch and pass Emmett Smith. That is. Staggering amount of the are in. Why did that happen? Because I've told you before emit built low to the ground and five nine ish had this incredible ability to make people miss in tight spaces. I've never seen anything like it before, but he just had that little neck that survival that little that little wiggle in Hallward. Nobody ever got the quote, unquote, kill shot, the direct shot. You have never put himself in that precarious position. We're all send you get bent over pret- sold whatever. He was always ducking and darting behind what might have been the greatest offense of line ever during those two or three years. And he utilized it because he would duck and Dr and beat three of that offense of line and eight yards into your secondary before you found him. And again, the reason he fell in the draft is because he ran for six at the combine. Well, every combine I see guys, I see defensive lineman running four six, right? Yeah. But with the football under his arm, he was pretty hard to catch and really hard to hit and bring down. So he lasted. He the durability in the longevity were staggering to me. No. Running back currently planned, skip, no. Have fifteen years with them how to carry the here. Do you just can't do that? So his yards per game kept falling because he kept hanging on any went to Zona for two two years after a bad year in Dallas. So his yards per game fell to eighty one for his career, but but the yards are just it's just incomprehensible. It's eighteen thousand three hundred fifty five yards will Zeke will never even dream of getting that far because I must say, I hate to say Zeke, you'll Elliott's he's high collision. He's, I'm not saying he's quite Adrian Peterson, but he's in the ballpark with Adrian trying to run people over because when in doubt. Out, he will duck his, you know what? He'll lower his shoulder. He'll do whatever it takes to get that. That third one and a half, he'll fight for that extra half yard it. He'll take punishment this, why don't think he'll break Jim Brown's record? See Zeke has a problem that's not football. That's not on the field. That's a whole nother issue. Yeah, because you think about it's given, he's already missed how many game? Six? Yes. So you look at AD didn't have the issue of the world is not. So most of these guys that it miss gain for personal reasons for personal Brown for off the field note. I got. So that's going to wait. Now that might help him out because like you said, m it started playing two years and it kept coming coming down, coming down coming down, but maybe missing some games, take some wear and tear off its body with the way this offense is set up right now, skip with his ability. I give you that he could run. He could. He can run through tackles. A first step is good. That it comes. It's just he's got like shocking acceleration for two, twenty five. We're all sudden you're like, whoa, he hit another gear. Yes, he's off to the races and that and that office of line they, they mall people, and that's what Dallas did in the mid nineties. They leaned on you to and and EV and all the Nate Newton. They were having. With loaded or loaded with offense of line, which is why I told you going into this year, I gives Zeke a far better shot at breaking Eric Dickerson's single season record, which is staggering in and of itself in two thousand take a two thousand one hundred six yards to break it right images. I'm sorry, Zeke is a head of that pace right now. But Eric, if you go look, what started happening mid year, then late year he started taking off and he had some monster games, four or five of them is e capable those. Yes. But again, got a knock hard on this would he can't have bursitis in his knee and turned ankles and whatever else. Knickknack vigilant, teams are gonna fourth back to beat them and you hear what caught Landon Collins says. That's the prevailing theory round the league's get. We got some how we gotta find a way to shut that running game. Now because everything they do is predicated on that if you look at during the season this year, forget the last two years when Zeke. Look at. They want to games, look at Wednesay running the football. Well in that can play option play, play action off that that's got that big touchdown to table and also what second play the game. You look at Sunday. His first game over two hundred yards. That's because Zeke is grinding it out. So if I'm a team Deekor Nater now to one, you're not gonna beating daybreak. Hope you had a belly for you got the working, you would know Email what I wanna see. I wanna see four eight with the football in his hands. I wanna see four run the read option and pull it back out and keep it six or seven. Eight me running the mercy can. I don't believe you can gash you. He can get you get Tim yards. Ten yards care abra cut six or seven Carey sixty or seventy yards. And all of a sudden you're saying we'd better not. We can't crash the defensive in down all those guys other than Zeke Elliott get your paper cuts. That twenty one thing to the trauma center. So I'm not worried I'm not worried about that running. I'm not worried about that. Throwing the ball, the Gallup in her and all those other guys or or down another first down another first down. I like you say, you want to see this. I know what you what was that move with? Hers move. You want to see anything you just wanna see, because you know what comes out of that lay action pass. Same c. four social media. I did it because I was celebrating celebrate. You know what my caption was. I'm going to have somebody for breakfast. Own body. Mall that it took his door performance. Zeke's greatest performance as a as the NFL players. It took that analysts the go to win by two. So what happens if he doesn't have that kind of this really Matt Stafford shredded Bill Belichick the game before one game. I'll really one guy. The guy who gets seventy five percent of the credit shredded humiliated and embarrassed by Matthew staff and what to do, what you do to China, he'll what does it matter? I'm just saying this matter we had to deal with the hometown boy returns, Matt Stafford. What I really wasn't home. Have y'all had beat him in Detroit? Remember we'll have time went to Detroit right? Three thirty nine having Calvin Johnson Hamilton Stafford. Did y'all in? So I need understanding a bunch of times really did us in the other day. Somebody go, do y'all Leno Sunday night? Okay. I'm good to cases of doing no just one game, you know. I'm good. See, see what you do here on buying anything though. You try to make me go one by one. I gave you like five here three, but I'm good now. Big showdown in the NFL. The Cowboys visit the Texans Sunday night in a match up of two promising young QB's both Dak Prescott and Shawn Watson had incredible rookie seasons. But since then they've both struggled to live up to the hype Dak through for over two hundred guards last week for the first time since last season, a Watson is off to a one and three start has turned the ball over five times in four games, Shannon who's better Dak or to Sean. I would take John right now and probably for the foreseeable future to Sean averages. Two hundred sixty yards passing the game is to fifteen that number. If you were to factor in this season that Descharnes over three hundred yards passing. Daggs on the two hundred. Yes. This is what I didn't know. The Shawn Watson almost out, rushes him per game. Two to one is thirty. Nine rush yards per game to twenty. I didn't know it was that big of a gap skill fault is that how about my play callers? What you brought it up. I'm just saying, what do I pound the table for every week? Just run him. I just believe seeing the Sean play a. He grew up about thirty miles from where I lived in Gainesville, Georgia, maybe forty. He the better of the football Dak Prescott. He has a Dak candidate better running game better off into line. I just think in a passing league, the better passer, probably gonna be the better of the quarterback. And because I think the Shawn Watson better quarterback throwing the ball from the pocket, throwing the ball on the move. I would take the Shawn Watson over Dak Prescott as my quarterback. So this is almost an impossible question for me because you know how much I love both of the and I was on the record ahead of a year ago draft. The Cleveland Browns are going to make a huge mistake if they don't take Shawn Watson and I still think they made a huge mistake as much as I like Baker Mayfield. But desha Watson showed us in back to back national championship games. That's what you what he is, why you really like him? He ain't Nick Saint exactly. Put it on man is he threw for four or five in the first game they lost, but it was four touchdowns in that game. He ran twenty times for seventy three yards. That's pretty good against Saint Nick's defense. And then in the one that they one threw for four hundred and twenty yards three touchdowns and ran it for forty three more yards. But the point is that would just play making supreme that was just poise and confidence and whatever that intangible that's a winning intangible that you have. Now, what did Shawn do at Clemson, that neither one of us. Like he's too old bunch of interception because in those two last two years, when he was a starter at Clemson, he went thirteen and seventeen interceptions and combine those thirty interceptions led division one for those two years. Not a good sign, not a good predictor of NFL success. My right, yes. So what have we seen so far in the NFL he throws interceptions he's twenty six touchdowns twelve interceptions while Dak has been much better on the interception front. He just. Even then if you just look at the overall decks forty nine to nineteen touchdowns interceptions and he's had a couple rocky stretches here of lake because he didn't have any weapons, but who's the more successful starter so far? Just the winner will Dax twenty four and twelve starter. That's that's pretty good. And so far Sean, his four and six is starter into Sean, got hurt in the one thing I like about Dak is he's a bull man. He's he's six, two. What do you say? I think he's to fifty, but he said they moved to list to twenty nine do that. I thought to thirty eight. That's what I saw today, but whatever we'll give to four. He is a big strong man and he can take a beating and he can also dish it as well as he can take it. And so the point is, I think on durability, I'm gonna take back. So overall, I disagree with you on throwing the football. I don't think to Shawn's a better throw the football Dak. Prescott docs got a little stronger arm, and I think he's very accurate, but look at weapons. Look, you've heard deandre Hopkins and you think he's any good will destroy has benefited from having a de'andre. Dak does not have. Ditty, that was a liability. Lash. Law lady is rookie was pretty good, whether it's hard for is hard to shine to throw the ball to Deandra Hopkins when he doesn't have enough lab because he's constantly on the move. Okay. And I'll give you this. He is quicker and faster than back. I don't know if he's a more effective runner because they just don't let Dak run it enough, but keep going down. Those weapons will fuller better than any other receiver hurt. Okay, but, but is he good? He's really good. And did you see that KiKi Cutie, Texas Tech. He caught fifty five balls from Patrick Mahomes two years ago, but against Andrew luck and company up in Indy. The other day I game he's been healthy is a fourth round, rookie pick right. Desha targeted him. Fifteen times caught eleven balls for a hundred nine yards. Dallas doesn't have that. There's nobody. I got measly Beasley, but but that's about all I got. That's my point. Okay. If you want. That's why just you'd be running team because you haven't given the the weapons to debt to to make sure he succeeds Sean has weapons, and I believe the Sean is a better natural, throw the ball, considering he threw the ball a lot more in college as opposed to Dak that or zone was. So that's why we'll give him a slight. A slight nod right now. Maybe we looked, maybe we overvalued to Shawn because he, lo, he played those games. He went up there and he doing with a Tom Brady New England. He lost them land. Second throw. He went to a Seattle through over four hundred. This league. This league sketch, the mom syndrome, it's like, wait, wait and wash a little bit more right? Like you deal with that. Oh, here, see you. We you put him in the hall of fame utility. Oh, you, you put it whole uniform. They can. If the hall of fame right now it was the greatest rookie quarterback season ever. You can't find one better. I just can't because not that many get a chance to to start as a rookie and nobody can go thirteen and three. What was he? Twenty three to four touchdowns wow. Led the league QBR most of the year until the very. Well, he let it to the last game and it was a giveaway game because they had already wrapped up the division. So he goes out, Philadelphian skid, stinks it up. We think you want to track it, but doing Olympic. It doesn't matter racist. It doesn't matter who who crosses the finish line first. That's how we measure winners who crosses the finish as a rookie finished third in QBR after leading for what is it? We don't do the patient. Okay. We don't do skip. I keep telling you this. You don't win the bras metal. You lose the go metal. What if the last game had had stakes attached to it, he would have won the QBR. We don't know that we can say that, yes, we can. Well, what would have turned around and put the ball in the basket. What if labata taken the shutout we made it was not in heaven. You have been in LeBron hours. You see what he did. He finally made a walk off that mattered because they were down one woke up, indie. It mattered hide against. Do. Do do this tide. The net safety net safety coury was eighth in it. They were tied, okay, I'll give you that, but nobody can make shot. And all of a sudden he said, okay, I'm done with this. Watch this. None. Nobody could make a shot, India, mild to combat. Could nobody make a shot bras they give me the ball thirty. Drought, eight, Todd, lose a Bronco. Would you take these while at the end of the bronze? I Gotcha. I was a good move by Tyler. He's being guarded by a everybo- rookie the bra that bay hit with the old. I put it live head Hobie. If you Diddy. I'm gonna call. Glad I'm not. I'm too far on the basket. The less second I got. I can't shoot it off the glass. I gotta shoot straight. Oh, I accidentally kissed it in the game though. The night, his first shot. He made. Yeah. And I'm like four feet is opposed to, but that's his shot. If teen death shot. Fish us the running one hander off the glass case. Well, he wasn't behind the basket the other night, but that's okay. You know what. Just go to the game. I think because what happened is is that you've seen Michael play if you would just to go out one time and see LeBron it, everything will crystal porn. You could see watching every night. I watch everyone dribble every night who end his purple haze. Oh yes, my dressing room. We do a field trip to Laker game deal. Traders think I can organize like it. I know someone. Yeah. Could you break your rules? Hurt my profile. Profile, geez. All right, never mind. We're going back to the NFL Baker Mayfield we'll turn the Browns into winners. Is he right? We'll discuss that with the Angelo hall next. And I am still remembering the. Baker Mayfield has had an eventful start to his NFL career, came off the bench to lead a comeback, win over the jets. Then he turned it over four times in an overtime loss to the raiders yesterday hall of Famer. Brett farve had some very nice things to say about Baker. Let's take a listen, can be great fun to watch. He's a playmaker. He's resilient. He's all those things. I tell you what he scrappy and you know, he's going to give you the best chance to win and he's going to do it to the last whistle, the winners, they just have it. You know, somebody call it, cockiness may call it overconfidence I make you call it whatever you want, but the winners have that little bit of air about him and how they carry themselves, and then they're play making -bility and just how to me equally as important as you've just see a heighten enthusiasm when that players in the game. I like that word scrapping. We're joined by f. s. one. NFL analyst de ngelo home morning morning. I am going to give the floor to skip though on this one. Times I'm trying to win you over here. Do you agree. I do, and there's part of that sound bite. We didn't hear the prefaced all this with the guy who tipped him off to this spot was the great Ron woolfe who built the original Packer team with Reggie White and brought Brett Farr from Atlanta that won a championship. And I know Ron woolfe around he was the greatest talent evaluator I was ever around. He really gets it. And what Brett said before, what we heard was he was talking the other day to Ron woolfe because they keep in touch and that Ron told him that when you're picking a quarterback, you cannot underestimate the winner. Intangible that most people. They look at the combine result. The pro day result that you have to look is the kid made at the right stuff. Whatever that winter thing is and Baker Mayfield has that in him. And I'm not saying Baker mayfield's gonna be Brett Farr because it was really good. And I'm not sure if you figured it'd be, there you go. I don't think Baker is that gifted. I just don't. He's going to be really good, but the hall of Famer I don't know. I'm stopping short of that, but to Brett's point, then you have to look at what what the intangibles are because Baker plays on intangibles more than he plays on talent. And if you look at what he did at the university of Oklahoma and the three years he started there, he goes thirty four and six as the starter pretty good and got them to playoffs twice lost in the first round, but but played very well in both games. And in those three years, they had awful defense's like he was having to overcome. Even in the the final year, they ranked fifty six overall in defense. They were not very good as you know, recovering a lot of those games. So he had to keep overcoming them. So I missed a little bit on Patrick Mahomes because I watched a lot of games at tech. I didn't see this coming and maybe he'll level out, you'll come back to earth a little bit, but the Mahomes I saw Texas Tech, they didn't have. They didn't play defense either, but they went thirteen and nineteen with him as the starter. Well, I didn't see great intangibles. I didn't see him be able to lift a medium talented team up to the top level of the big twelve because they were not a top level team. Look at his record against the top teams wasn't very good. He went over six against Oklahoma, Oklahoma state, and then I can go down the line. So he didn't show me. Hi winner, like contagious intangibles at Texas Tech right now, he's got weapons. He's got a coach. You loves him. A dynamic offenses play caller and so is being lifted by that. Obviously, the kid is extremely gifted. Patrick Mahomes is way more. Shifted to me than Baker Mayfield, but I still Baker for what Brett farve is talking about, which is that contagious that rub off effect is he said the heightened sense of enthusiasm. You see when he just steps on the football field, everybody's like, oh, we got this. Now here we go and you guys highly accomplished NFL players to say, well, that only lasts so long and your league. And maybe that is true. But I still say it's an underestimated intangible that that doesn't like with Sam darnold. I couldn't see any of that. I saw the pro day stuff. I saw a measurable 's, but in the immeasurable 's I don't yet see it and Sam darnold. So that's why said I'll take Baker Mayfield over Sam darnold. Agri some them. But for the most part, I'm going to say no, because you know what confuses me is when they say he's a winner. Let me tell you a lot in college jamarcus Russell. He won the national championship, Mark Sanchez, joy hair out on jamarcus. I can go back and show you wouldn't have time to do this, but every time LSU played Florida or Tennessee or some big game, he did not play well, and he was a big interception Thor too, but go ahead but they want a lot. Most of the quarterbacks in NFL they won a lot. It's very few quarterbacks get that lose, especially if they go to prominent programs like at Oklahoma, Leica, Florida, like at Tennessee for the most part, they're so supremely talented. That's why Mahomes at Texas Tech couldn't be Oklahoma, Oklahoma state, Texas Tech is not getting four and five star recruits. They might get two and three, four and five. They got if they're gonna go somewhere. They're going to the bigger school, but and it helps also if Todd Haley, Hugh push the ball down the field. Let you know. Baker come. Then he's throwing the ball down the field. They got tyrod or jailbreak screen in swing, but that's neither here nor there. He's a game manager, right? Yeah. When the coach the coach let you do. But anyway, here, no desk Bela's now I think Baker can be good. I don't see him as Patrick Mahomes because I don't see him having the weapons that Patrick Mahomes. I don't think he has the physical weapons that no, he. I mean that you don't have the have the ability to throw the ball like this kid can, but. Breadth, the-the. A lot of himself in Baker Mayfield. Kamikaze style. Yeah. And this is why he's heaping praise and education. I think that has a lot to do with its get when we see someone like ourselves playing the game is natural. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. There's a lot there. I don't think anybody thought Brett farve would be Brett farve when he first started out skip. So it's hard to definitively say, what a guy's gonna be live get? Can we at least get like four or five games in we saw a half and we saw entire game the half with great the game, not so much. So man, we just what we're just so quick to somebody. Yeah, we always this day and age. We always see one one one big play, and wow that guys the next big thing because we're always looking for that next big star. I do think Baker has a winning quality like Santa Sabe act. I can't go off of what he did in college though. Because he had a great team around him and he doesn't have that great. Did not have a defense. He did not what his defense was. Probably his defense, I would say was comparable to what clean has been putting out on the field as far as overall. I would argue until this past Sunday rate at one point. But I know run with an I know what he puts value on. He drafted me in Atlanta. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Whenever I see run around, we always sit and talk about how he sees the game, how I see the game, how how I see this player, how he sees this player and. It makes sense. I didn't know Ryan had a part of getting Baker up there in Cleveland and not not had a part of that. He would just tell them Brad, that's, that's why this got that winter. Into front? No. No, okay. Well. I still I need to see him do it on this level. And so absolutely shanty say Bret sees himself in Baker Mayfield. He sees a kid who plays the game with such a motion and such passion and runs around and have so much. Fun can go hang out with the DVD's can go hang out with receives with old line d. line in a locker quarterbacks don't do that kind of stick to their, you know, their more of the pretty boys. They stay over here nights hiding quarterback. Yeah, they're not the ones going out hanging out having beer with you and when you went across a guy like that. Yeah, it just brings you in you wanna play form. You want to see him do well, and, and I just really think that's what it comes down to Baker is a guy who you can. You can generally sit down with and have a conversation because he wasn't a golden boy. He came from, he was a walk on. He had lighting his way into the national spotlight and. So that resignation would a lot of guys because for the majority of the guys in the National Football League, we don't play those positions that gets the limelight and for quarterback to get the limelight, but still feel like one of the guys you never run across death. That's what makes Baker, I think a little bit different in that winter stigma gets thrown on him. I think that's what may John Elway. So special now is skip because he was a guy who he was, but in training camp, you know, we play cards, we're rolling dies. We're having a good time laughing talking. He come in there and he rode, I play cards with us and training camp like, okay, what are you guys doing tonight? We get a night off. He come hang with us. Yeah, you know, we shooting basket poppy shot and he does that with. So now we look at him like he could be standing doing his own thing, he would, or he's mad at four kids. We go out, I'll beat up minute. He come hang out with. So that does meet that does play a lot because you don't want the quarterback. Yeah, you the face of the franchise and they treat you differently, but we. Don't want you to act different. They might treat you, but you act like the rest of us. What is Baker Mayfield made of what we see at the university of Oklahoma he played. I thought the best regular season game of the year year ago was at Ohio State. And then what did he do took the flagging went to the military and stuck it in the ground? Did you love that? Did a lot of people is that role model quality of, okay. That's bingo. Gets mad at the worst team in the big twelve, the Kansas jayhawks because they disrespected during the coin toss. Somebody said something to which they give. In their words to and he's like, he's grabbing his crotch to say, okay, how about this role model? No, but the NFL people say, I kind of liked that teammates like that. Yeah, they did right. And then what he do before their biggest game of the year against TCU when the kids dared to run across the back line while he was warming up on their end of the field, he just drills, the TCU player in the helmet with the football, a good throat to caught him right in the helmet. Okay, in he's got some stuff to his game. That's that's what he's made of. He's going to be combated. He's going to be feisty. He's going. If you wanna go fight after the game, he'll go fight you after game. He's that kind of kid. Okay. Do you like that you play with that is that I do Philip rivers, alot how Philip rivers you. You're not used to seeing quarterbacks jaw back and four. And I remember planning Philip, we came together and he was always a talker. And I'm like, what is each state doing all? Let's talking, but he kept doing it. He kept doing. Guys on his team loved and respected him, would he you? He would talk to anybody. He didn't care. He didn't care from the sideline to the other. You could be on the bench sitting there watching in the preseason Phillips John from sideline sideline like it was something I had never seen from the quarterback position before, but guys on his team. Like I was saying, they love that about film you as an opponent, you hate it because you wanna get you wanna get you wanna hit them. You want to hurt him. Tech that you love me? Yeah. When you play with them, no, you love them. And that's kind of bakery, if you're if you're an opponent. You hate, you wanna go, you wanna hit them. You want to try to get them sack, whatever pick them off. But when you want his team, it ain't then you wouldn't do for that new. Okay. That's some intangible. I can't measure. We measure though, is he six feet and a half inch tall? Yeah, little like a little stocky Bill, you know, like I don't think he has a great body exactly but, but Kenny, Kenny escape in the pocket. Yep, he can do that. He can. He make place? Yep. I still think he has whip of an arm. It's not Dan Marino's arm, and it's not Patrick Mahomes aren't, but it's pretty good. I mean, they got them. We'll see. They have landed. They have Callaway. They got good running backs. So we'll see. And Joe coup wish she had Josh Gordon. Josh, Josh is going what you always something that's always go. You know what at first you didn't won't dares. Now you're talking about looking at what we got. I think Dan's might be pretty good now you won't dance with the even in front. Even Dez would be better than what I write. Not saying you always do that. You had him. You didn't want him. I didn't. The guy always wants to girl what she's gone. He's desperate. So that all day today. Times desperate measures. We got the championship Texas on Sunday night, right bragging ain't no championship. A couple takes is. Case do on it. Probably I'm thank you. I love my chances against. Went to the last play, the game go input to do. It's on. It's all do now. The in, if Dak has to throw it to Zeki will throw it to Zeke and the game will be over. You're gonna take one play. He may one over the shoulder canton three, but wouldn't it? It was the play of the year and pro football. It was. Think about it with you. Don't have any receivers and finally your to your like a two man offense of team in the to say, okay, let's just in this thing right here. I'll go lineup as a wide out. I'll go line up in the slot and I'll run a go route and Utah over my shoulder and I'll catch it. Am I right knows play. Given the degree of difficulty come on a routine play. It's routine for a running back. If if you say he got hand like maybe. Garner's got better hands led the know about that one. Well, you saw, I saw great great team play, but when it comes over. Remember it came to that. That's all I got. That's what I'm trying to. It took a historic performance from Zeke. And you kick the game winning field, you feel good about that? Nope. I don't honestly. Sunday Dangelo. Thanks for being here. You're gonna be back a little bit later, but someone who's not afraid to speak his mind. Aaron Rodgers is everything. Okay. And his head coach. So Oklahoma quarterback, Kyle Lowry was benched for the start of their game on Saturday. After oversleeping being linked practice, he then came in through six touchdown, passes in a blowout win, ran for one Murray's hot start now has him with the second best odds to win the Heisman behind to televise Loa. And as I mentioned, Keiler has a big stage on Saturday at the Cotton Bowl against Texas. We have been looking forward to that one mal year. Joel Klatt joining us now, and we have had we've been fortunate enough to spend some time with Cuyler Murray. What do you think what our heads odds now to win the Heisman. He's playing unbelievable football, but there's a guy playing better football right now, and that's unfortunate for Cuyler. There's a couple of factors at play here. One is that Keiler is doing basically whatever other Oklahoma quarterback and really Lincoln Riley quarterback has done in the history of this system, you know. So you could make an argument that he's a byproduct of the system. Now, I happen to think that he's playing unbelievable his feet or dangerous. He's throwing the ball down the field as well as anybody in the country. However, there's a guy right now playing college. Football has taken the greatest program in the history of the sport to another level. That's tough to do. Think about these numbers. Jenny when Alabama won their national championships under Nick saving, you don't have to convince you got. All right. Go ahead. You're the easy part. Thirty five points per game is what Alabama averaged in their five national championship years combined. Okay. Not shabby, but not great. Fifty. Four points per game is what they're averaging right now. Number one scoring offense in college football nineteen points difference. I mean, you kidding me. You're talking about close to three touchdown. He's taken over in terms of throwing the ball down the field. Thirteen point, two yards per attempt that's way up from Alabama from what they were a year ago. Eight point two yards per attempt. Three incompletions total on third down three, three, seven touchdowns and twenty one attempts by the way he's averaging eighteen and a half yards per attempt on third down to Tunga via Loa has taken the greatest coach in the history college football, the greatest team in the history in terms of a decade run and he's ratcheted up what they've been able to do Oklahoma's great. Keiler is great. Virtually the same thing that we're seeing last year and the year before. Four. This is just a different deal with Alabama. Bama play this time Samford or who they got. Everybody by the way he's doing this in one half of football. This is the quarterback version of Barry. Sanders did and imagine to be if he could play in the fourth quarter skip or if you play late into the ball, late late third quarter. I mean, think about then I'd win one hundred enough. Got through. True. If two right now to use aim boat in eight through twelve when he had such a heat such so far, if he doesn't pull a hamstring, his trophy and I know you look, he's not even top hundred in the Tim's at the quarterback position. Eight, Tim's got fourteen tubes interest you in eighty completion. Can I ask, you know what? He's taking a team when you think Alabama, you think running backs and play defense. You don't think running-backs anymore. Skipped in a six year span. They had Eddie lacy mar Ingram. Second TJ Yoda and Kenyan Drake, Derek and Alvin Kamara you know, harangue running backs on now because this guy see we've always seen and that's what Oklahoma Oklahoma used to be known as running back school. Remember Steve end and billions. Yeah. Yeah, you think, but then all of a sudden he became your research. Why am Bradford it in Baker Mayfield now they're no more every past team. Alabama was known for running and playing defense. This is the first time that I ever remember and I go back to watching coach Bryant when he had major Ogilvie and all those guys running the wishbone wishbone you knew that they would poorly. They did not. Like, oh, you're not what autos national championship. They got skipping. It's not even close. I don't even know if two or does not think about it. His neck for the next ball game. He's not gonna be playing the fourth quarter. They got like Arkansas. His gonna come with illeg improbably champion, Auburn at home, maybe Auburn, but yet it's a home. But to this guy, this really renarrowed ABS. We still remember the second half against Georgia. Yeah. So I'm going to be an objective. Always I give collar Maury, a good shot to win the cosmic trophy because I think it might just get called the cosmic trophy before this year is over because he is right on his tail and two is off to an all time. Greatest start. There's never been a start like this quarterback is had through their five games. It's it's off the charts, but right on the same chart is the guy at Oklahoma because let's do my favorite stat QBR to a leads the nation at ninety eight ninety eight on a scale zero to one hundred and is just it's just impossibly great. Kyle is right there. Yes, he's at ninety seven ninety eight to ninety seven Mr. sharp. He's right on his tail with a ninety. Seven let's do degree of difficulty because Alabama predictably is now tied for fifth and points allowed. Oklahoma is fifty first in the nation in points allowed and ninetieth in yards allowed because I don't love me some Mike stoops's the coordinator. I don't wanna get you probably here, but I know you gotta go see him, but I just don't. I just don't love. I know you said their defense looks a little better. I'm not sure about that. So the degree of difficulty for collar Murray is off the charts compared to because he knows what the defense is going to do. Just going to hand him the ball back again and again, and again and Cuyler Murray. I'm starting to wonder is possible Lincoln Riley is a byproduct of Baker Mayfield and Cuyler Murray cholera is legit because I had no idea. I'd seen him once against Iowa State last year whenever it was, you know, he ran one serums when baking suspended. He is leaping off my TV screen because he's more accurate with more arm strength than I ever imagined. And the releases lightning-quick and speaking of lightning, his acceleration, it's it's off. The charts is Lamar Jackson, esque. It's right in the same ballpark on just pure. About two of male. Okay. Not he can run with, but he and his electric Czyz kids feet these. It looks like he stuck on fast forward when he takes off and what Hershey on that on that QBR because you're right, like the argument I get it right, and I'm not suggesting Kyle is not playing because he's playing fabulous football, and he's such a dangerous player to try to defend because these explosive with his feet and he can hurt you with his arm. It's a really rare combination. But the problem is Baker just set the NCAA efficiency record to shrink years. So this offense is built for QBR efficiency. I mean, that's what it does. They gotta do it to execute it. Here's here's what I will give you. I'll come to your side a little bit. Here's what I will give you. I do think the Heisman Trophy is one by not only numbers but moments, and I'm fearful for two that you're not going to have a moment when you're in a baseball cap in the fourth quarter. Now that's not his fault, like very Sanders in one thousand nine hundred eight. But when you don't play in those big games in those big moments and you're not the impactful factor that. Can way on voters minds in particular when Kyle got a game like this week in Red River against the defense that has not given up seventeen points, three straight games against the defensive coordinator, Todd Orlando that by the way is to the last six times, Lincoln Riley has been held under thirty thirty points. It's been Todd defenses once a Houston, Texas. Yep. So this is his moment if Keiler is going to overtake too. I think he's got to do it this weekend. He's gotta play great on this day happen because nobody puts value Texas team who they've lost to. But we've seen name someone that comes up on the Mike Leach named a quarterback that played at a might leave fifty that haven't unbelievable numbers name. They don't do anything in the NFL, but in college from that system, they're gonna throw for fifteen thousand yard. They're gonna have a hundred plus touchdowns. We've never seen it all Alabama. Mike system coached by Michael. No, Lincoln route. Definitely. Fiscal degree. It's a little different. He got his teeth under. Yeah, yeah. He might take a little bit of this and added his own flavor to it, but what within with two and that was Alabama. When have you ever said Alabama's offense is better than his depends in the history that program certainly not under. He's he ain't gonna like this. Saint Nick. I ain't gonna like he's gonna lose credit here and guess what to have to do. He has to worry about Jalen hurts because that's the play. Qossaibi doesn't love that say because guess what? If you just run the ball in play defense co, sabre Zabre. But now you got somebody coach saving once a Heisman winner at quarterback, I ego have way if it gets him another ring, he'll take it again. This is the most dominant decade we've seen in college football hevea and this is maybe I would say, arguably the greatest coach of all time. And this single player has taken them to a just a different level Alabama's gory. That margin for me is Optima running into you, Alabama in scoring fifty, four points. The number one defense fifty been there. So you know, he. Keep us thank overtone FM involved in. Now he got somebody that can spend it like two young receivers, get by. What did area judaize once about the forward pass? Three things can happen in two of them are bad, so too is a lot of forward passes and Saint Nick is thinking to the things that can happen are banned, really wrote have many passes Kaunda Murray. Do you know how many interceptions he has none zero. Well, guess how many Keiler has to teen to to really or teen though, technically that's two hundred percent more than two. Oh, ninety eight to ninety? Seven. He's coming to Lowe's and agree is close, but man to stage for best Saturday. This is a Heisman type of game. Heisman, how close Dallas Fort Worth actually to each thirty? Forty five. Okay. Close Dallas Fort Worth. They're not that close to Murray. They not. That's the only point, but it rotated. Saturday, I would try to get over here, but if you watch the game on, lay out nervous watching, you know, are you like wound up about this league? It's these guys. I tell you this is going to be about this. Let's get it. I get it this. This is the biggest Red River game since maybe Bradford McCoy and eight. Legitimate title aspirations for be watching and listen to my man Joel in my Ashu with our show which Oklahoma can get a hold Obama. No, Tim, she'll Jimmy. Against Oklahoma's we didn't want. We care about you overnight. We've upset because they kick things we've may. You can ask collar old in the Heisman pose when he scores winning a little to Alabama about have a running time, you say, hey. All right. Thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Johnny Taft. Join us again at nine thirty AM eastern on Monday for another week of undisputed. We'll see that.

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"And now Jalen and Jacoby on ESPN. Yup. Stupid. Jailing? Fanie row. What updo? The cool. Check gin sin stage on the Mike putting it on wax. It's the new. Jalen and Jacoby. What do we do? We get people. So much on the show today. A full Sunday of NFL great night game. Great afternoon game between the Packers. And the Rams a lot of MBA topics. Tie Luga fired. He's not hired you ever think about when you're out of here. That's just me. In the background. You can hear the sounds. Furred? I was in the garden last night. No Friday night to watch the warriors beat the Knicks closer game that looked like though to the four it was closed until the fourth quarters. It was a good experience being they're giving the home crowd summit here about representing are fine program. Thank you sides. Besides Kevin Durant. I wanted to ovation but he got introduced to be bigger. So then after the game, they're happy. They're win in the business locker room getting ice. And they played this song turned up little bit ridge. The remix of jobs and south to sway the remix guy who created this. Yes. And this is in response to Josh Mel saying that it was a little rude of Draymond to make that face the root of him to make that face. When he was singing the national anthem. That's her better half. I think they're broke up. I don't I don't stay up with with all of the broker think. They're divorced him for riding for his ex no doubt that every does that. So you can be mean if you're funny where do you find this? Post game. They were getting ice on her knees. They were decompressing after a long night. No harm. No foul. Those hilarious. Yeah. No. I thought it was hilarious. And the best part is Josh Imelda's took the l you know, what? I mean, he went on Twitter up don't mess with the champs. He he said something like that. You're to go down there. Just let them cook. Oh, so good. This song might chart. It really might just got a black piece out. Now. This is good for Furby. What did you feel about her in dish in of the national anthem? When you first heard it. It was excellent. You know what I mean? I was I was appreciate people taking approaches. Innovative. Reggie loved it. Ready? Still plays in everywhere. That was big on Friday night being in the guard. I really expected more. Kevin Durant stuff going on. You know what I mean? Besides him taken over in the fourth quarter. I thought there'd be more signs and more energy and more. Let's get K D the guard the Lakers Dwight Howard. Didn't work out billboards and sideshows I think New York has one of the most sophisticated fan basis in sports, and I understand when the Brian came knows you times there was the propensity to him. I think they learned from that. And so you allow the process to play itself out at handy yourself with some steam and yourself with some class actually root for your team because the players do pay for and it was a good game through through three quarters. I will problems. Don't love the sweet experience at a friend who works for a law firm Kosta, the sweet it was just like, you know, I like to be most people like to be in the crowd. You know, seeing the chance and being in the in the crowd. I like both when I thought nice now here, here's the difference. Here. Here's your famous though, you're gigantic famous person. Here's the clear distinction. It depends on how many people. If you're with one or two people, then obviously you can be in the seat try to get your best seat do like that. But if you were like five or six people is best to be in a suite. You can enjoy one. It's nice to mingle. Yeah. Mingling opportunity. They also give you bottles of liquor, and you can pour your own drinks. That's I can't be trusted that congressman love that love trust with that kind of response that I really can't. I really can't fourth quarter. I don't remember every detail. But do remember Kevin Durant for sure he wouldn't all he wears shot up Nerlens Noel, I tried to tell you deeper in the box score. I just give Michelle you guys. I start twenty points nine fourteen fifteen rebounds, four steals a block. Let me go back to something. I said on this fine program set it on get up to okay. He's going to be a productive player for them. The mass try to give him a seventy million dollar contract. He didn't sign the contract. So they basically benched him buried them. That's what happened, of course. And so now he's landed in. Okay. See where upfront they have all of these long angular players like. Yeah. Exactly. And so now he's going to be able to catch lobs. He's going to be a finisher around hoop? He's a lefty he's gonna block shots. He's going to get steals. Like his game. He's going to be really good for them. Give you. I can't believe it. That Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. Hello until we get there. Get there. I'll get there. Now. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with Geico. What's this button? Do what's this button? Do button. This. Believe it. Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Jalen rose, the most hyped weakened of NFL Sunday lived up to it. I was kicking kids out of the bedroom. All afternoon keeping an eye on this game. It was fun. It was back and forth. Girly on the backfield scoring a touchdown. If felt like the Packers were always catching up eventually did catch up and take the lead on this past from Rodgers. They have a one point lead. The Rams comedown kick this field goal. The Rams have to look at the clock. Two minutes and five seconds on the clock time takes the ball. He made he made three mistakes on this play. I taking the ball in the end zone in the first place. Just ridiculous. Second fumbling the ball and third robbing the world of an Aaron Rodgers two minute drill. Trying to get a field goal. I wanted that to happen so bad every single person watching that game was so excited for Aaron Rodgers to have the opportunity one time out the two minute warning. To get not even that far down the field. Just to give Crosby a chance to kick a field goal. We was disappointed as I was with time coming to absolutely. And that's the theater that we were looking for with the with these two teams being matched up. The Rams clearly are undefeated. I think them in the saints have distinguished themselves. The best teams in the NFC when you have Aaron Rodgers you say, maybe they have punchers chance. Oh, yeah. A lot of times. I think as fans we underestimate the talent that's on Green Bay's roster. So many times we say Aaron Rodgers doesn't have hill. Jones is a good young. Yes. He is this feature. That's all seventeen people carry the ball for them yesterday that that's all they have to do Adams is a really good player. Ob is getting older. He still could play Montgomery. Even though we fumbled. Is a terrific player. So ha ha Clinton Dix has been one of the best safeties in the entire league. So far this year. So I was looking forward to seeing if Aaron Rodgers could lead his team. On a game winning drive type of thing. But that's why they're three phases to the game. And the Rams did trust. There's because how many people were watching the game watching the clock watching a game in watching the clock. They get the ball back to air Rajaa. I know with two minutes five seconds of Arctic at one time out. All they have those five seconds. That's basically another time out. He can throw to the middle of the field twice. It was just so disappointing that he did. But also here, here's what makes the blunder even worse. First and foremost caught it in his own tool. Five you take a knee? I know y'all can run a play. And then one time throw to the middle of the field or whatever costs, you know, time. That's number one number two running it out. He didn't get as far as he would have gotten had. He taken a neat. Yes. You're going to run it out. How about you took the ball close of your body? And lastly, you know, the coast told him not to run it. Yes. When you do because they happens as a player coach Ron drop a play. You may not run it to the tea, but you got to execute. And you gotta finish. Khaindrava football. You know, what the coach might not have told them for companies one. It's McCarthy too. Because it's such a veteran player. It's like, obviously like, obviously, a rookie making a dollar our state. Oh, no, no, no, no Newnan in the new. I guarantee you somebody in that organization when they get back to practice on Tuesday is going to sit at a podium and distinctly let the world know that we told him to keep it in the end zone. And he's going to have to explain why he took who saw avenue. Explain why you could ask me the question about I'm not giving you can news. I'm giving it to you right now. Well, you mentioned the saints being the second best team in the NFC. They certainly looked the class of the NFC as they played the Vikings. It wasn't as close as the final score would indicate went back and forth. You had cousins in feeling feeling. Fumbled the ball early to give the saints the ball. There's a couple of big turnovers from the saints on this one. Specially we had the pick six when they're trying to come back Kamar jumping over the pie. How to put that in Kamara? Look so good yesterday. Jalen, and then there's this cousins trying to make something happen down by one score in the third corps. Put himself down by fourteen. Now, here's my question for you. You mentioned the Rams and the saints being the best teams in the NFC. Well, guess who plays each other next week the Rams and the saints that is going to be a game in New Orleans. I'm gonna say now saints win the game. Then expect this question I roller with the saints at home. I think so too because you playing in that dome. It's going to be a track meet literally. But hey, Aaron Donald is. So very good. Yeah. It was great to see Dhamma Kosugi productive. And so like those are the teams but for the Vikings. I gotta make sure I stress Kirk cousins is their problem. No. Because the last time I checked, you know, who the best wide receiver dual in the league is the linen did. And I know a lot of people gonna be like let me scrambling right now, you can try to receiver that each, but you cannot find a better fit. Yeah. Hock is doesn't have the person next to him Julio. Maybe some new maybe really, you know, Dale doesn't have the person next to him. So that's legitimate on the offense. I think down the cook is going to help a lot, but they fix your defense. They got Griffin back with the captain at our defense was that was a personal issues. But that side of the football has to step up a Minnesota. If they're going to win the division, which I think they still will question Jalen where oh me. Here's what's happening. Patrick mo. He makes just incredible performances over three hundred yards four touchdowns their pedestrian. Now. We almost expect him and this is against the Broncos who don't have the defense they used to have. But they have had to look it up. Did some research that the eleventh best defense against the past Jalen, and he's has just look what he does like he's just doing this over and over and over. He is now in some rare air when it comes to stats he's like through the first eight games. No one has performed as he has not just like, oh someone in their first second season, starting whatever. It's only players like breeze and manning and Brady Manning's done twice. Brady's done. At once that put these numbers he's putting himself in the same. Classes hall of famers, and this is not the three game sample size. This is a half of a season. Now when I talk about the cheese. I gotta make sure I'll start with the evil genius respectfully Andy Reid because talking about a guy is plant chess when everybody else plant checkers look at the offense. Of weapons that they have. Okay, Kareem hunt. You just saw leap over a guy score. Touchdown. He jumped over the league in rushing last year. They signed Sammy Watkins and soil. Sammy Watkins got us deal. Everybody was old Chapelle Dale Monday gay Sammy Watkins. Yeah. Two touchdowns yesterday. Kelsey still the best hide in football. Tyreek hill still explosive as they get in the game. So for him to be able to amass this level of talent all at once peak prime years is truly impressive or defense is going to continue to get better. It's it's fascinating to watch Mahomes mature as a run threat option. Also, somebody has a pig arm. That can make all of the throws. Like there must see TV. It's crazy. He can just put up over three hundred yards and four touchdowns and us not talk about it until we're like twenty five minutes into the show that big a deal anymore, and he's basically a rookie like he played. We started one game last year the list of people that have had the number of touchdowns that he's has at this point of the season paint. Manny Tom Brady because guess what they went onto when MVP pal. Patrick Holmes is Myers right here. Starting Andy reselected a guy that is likely on pace to win MVP his first season under center, and that's letting Alex Smith goal. I know a quality starting bad last year. They didn't need to make changes. This is this is such an amazing season for the chiefs. It's going to be very interesting to see them play the patriots in the AFC championship game. I cannot wait. The Bengals beating the buccaneers. But let's be honest. This game is not about the Bengals. No this game is about Ryan fits magic. James Wissant throws four interceptions. It's magical game that look Mike Evans wide open. Then the Bengals have this fits magic is trying to blow the field goal. That's he's trying to everything they Bengals end up winning the game thirty seven to thirty four Jalen rose. What do you think about the quarterback can traverse city in south Florida? This is a perfect example of why you don't want the coach to be the general manager, which does not take place in this case, here's why because they have two different interests the interests of the general managers going to be the look for the long term viability of the team, which means if we took James Winston number one overall we want to have them up there. But to coach trying to win today you call one guy by government. You caught another guy by nickname fits match to that. They should know who should who's been playing better who should be out there. This is going to be a mess going forward. I'll shine Jackson gets traded to Houston. Do you? Remember when we said that we watch every game on Sunday. I'm not watching this too early in the morning in London. We had the eagles beating the Jaguars when you take away from this one. I was watching his game really early in the thing. I took away from it is Linda for net is sorely missed eighteen yards rushing for the Jaguars. Okay. And how you gonna have four players. Issue over the Bill priding yell the club paying the Bill in London with these. I wanna hear the explanation for this one. I'm here this around forty five thousand American bucks. Shipping campaigning gone wrong. There was definitely some ladies ordering stuff at their table. There's definitely some lady. It's definitely some lady stuff. You will be Seattle disciplined to talk about that for ten minutes. We gotta move on this happy. Jalen ramsey. Gotta NSF. Happy jails that trouble getting trouble. The Panthers beat up on the ravens and impressive Cam performance. Biggest takeaway from this is the ravens were on a historical pace as it related to second other teams quarterbacks. Cam Newton didn't get sacked at all just think about that. For a second. He plays in the pocket runs Alonso. Campbell's allow that says extends plays put himself in a position to get his shots north Turner whose helps camps decision making and his accuracy dumping it down McCaffrey plan. Go football. Next. The Steelers beat up on the Browns, Jalen rose. What do you think? Takeaway from this. Besides the fact and Tony Brown had two touchdowns is that the clock is ticking for Hugh in Cleveland, but I'm not sure if they're willing to pay a a head coach that's always some people say change the coast change because change codes are they willing to invest in. Sure, that's one number two. While of course, you welcome lady. I'm Bill to come back about James, Connor. This is his job James CONNER looks good. And so the thing is, you know, he's gonna be there next year so levian in. If he does retire, you're not going to give him one hundred percent of Carey's, even when he does return. This was not gonna make you. If you had a sound the represents how the lines played against the Seahawks. But would that sound? What would it be? This play God Dixon. They've tried to run out of the end zone and take the safety. Jalen, they weren't even trying to gain yards. These do it. I guess I'll just run the ball. Why not? And he got the first down is that is just Representative of the lines performance on this day. Say. Blinds. Don't look that. Good. Jalen, Russell Wilson. Did it was all it was all good as a couple of weeks ago when they beat the patriots, but not anymore. No seahawks. Have a running game. Non Carson moving on in a battle of the week. And if see east the Redskins the class of the division beat up on the giants, which think about the Redskins they legitimate. I need is. I hope I'm pronouncing his name right going to give him props yet, two and a half sex. He's playing really well not mad at debt shots. Alex. Smith who continues out fine ways to win. They'd you. Made you. Peterson on it. Forty nine yards out running people swear injure had two picks up and shall to all day. Like, you just said at this point of his career. None of us can say that we felt like he had is much left as he does. Jay grooten did a really good job of not only using him as a runner, but as a receiver he only caught a six count on touchdown pass of his career. How about that forgot his going to the hall of fame in a game that didn't pay much tension to colts beat the raiders, you know, what stood out to be in this game with colts like the Seahawks. Have a franchise quarterback at a search for running. A they had one yesterday motor backs best friend. Yup. Fantasy owners max performance. And also they did a good job of solidifying their office of lying to protect Andrew luck at three touchdown passes. Which southern the Cavaliers should be doing. Moving on the bears beat up on the jets. But all that matters is this. Mitchell Trubisky showed up at the game dressed as Mike. Dick jets. When I saw that. I would just go home. He got the sweater vest and the sunglasses. Oh, we're going home. We're just not the plane. We're going home. There's no way we're gonna win Mitra Bisky dressed up as Mike Ditka. It was a fun. Look they were playing without Khalil Mack. It just shows. How far the jets need to grow as a football team. Yes. They found a quarterback in Dalton. But a lot of their darnold. I'm sorry. But a lot of weaknesses were exposed and continue to be weak out the week by that football team. And finally the cardinals played the forty Niners in a very sad game featured some great plays by Larry FitzGerald. Yes. And you know around going with this because I talked about both of these guys. I was watching the game when I was like feel bad for fits. I do to not feel bad for Sherm. Those two guys I was happy to see fits over one hundred catcher TD over defenders to Sherman not only has seven tackles. But he had a sack too. I wasn't mad at that. At all FitzGerald is. He's just so good. I wanted to play next year. I wanna play forever. Those guys are on contending teams. I don't see it happening. Upstart has revolutionized how we borrow money by going beyond the traditional FICO score to offer personal loans taking account factors like job, experience and education. We determine your interest rate. Here's what it is. It's quick and easy checking your upstart rate is free. It has no effect on your credit score. Again, no effect on your credit score. You check your upstart rate and just two minutes and find out if you're approved. Here's the thing. 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But there's something happening with the words this season that we must discuss, and it is the absolute dominance of Steph curry in K D what they are doing is just unfathomable on Friday night. It was Kevin Durant. Taking over against the Knicks. And then on Sunday there was this just Durant and Steph scoring and scoring and scoring step is Hadley five threes and four hundred straight games. It's just incredible. What they are doing together. Steph curry is averaging thirty three point nine points a game. Kevin Durant is averaging thirty point three points a game. Is this going to continue with these two? I think it's going to continue pretty much. I talked about the fact that Steph was going to league on notice this year third year plan with K D they want a couple of. Ships. He's dealt with injuries a couple of times in the past. And he remembers the year that he was unanimous MVP, and he understands that in order for them to not only continue to reach their goals, but for him to continue to have a level of excellence in the game is he wants to get back to plan at that level while katie's on rust, not this was a unique marriage because it was the first time to MVP's row in the same team at the same time and they both under third. So it took a little time to figure out and you try to defer make them feel comfortable things like that. But as they continue to add to the star lineup deteriorated the bench. So they're going to need at productivity Klay still shop is still shooting and playing well also plays clay's not shooting that well right now from three, but but here, but here's the thing. I wanna make sure I stress what makes this work is both of these guys usually your best player needs to ball. They don't need the ball. Let me repeat that. They don't need the ball. They both come off screens. They both get initiate often. They start on the strong side they can start or no weeks. I started to top the Florida star on the side of the floor. And so now it just unlocks their entire game. But to officiant guys there's going to flirt with the more important step fifty from the floor forty from three ninety from the line is due to snipe and one thing about this duo, which is different like, Chris, Paul and heart. And there's only one basketball twain, LeBron only when basketball how are they going to make this work. It's gonna be hard to make this work. We're gonna take turns one time this year night. Then it's our night. It's not like that with this to like the way that the warriors played the fact that you made a great point that they don't need the ball the way that this team shares the ball and Steve Kerr's, the maestro at all. Like you. Do not hear about any of this. Oh, there's only one ball tonight tonight. It's going to be closed steps ninety miles gonna be katie's night. Like, they have a harmonious thing that's going on. They seem to just like make each other play better. The more one of plays better. What an engine? To that has to get knowledge. His Draymond green. If you notice a lot of shots that take place in particular when Steph relocate so they may throw it the Draymond. He maybe get get often. Rebound may do a dribble. Handoff action. The defense clearly hasn't figured out that he's not gonna shoot the ball, especially if you had the chance to give it to Steph theft. Just relocates kicks it to him in the corner. Bouma knocks it down so him being a Swiss army knife Klay still locking down on defense allows everybody still fall into their roles and function. Optimal precision worse. Steve Kerr, a great job managing their minutes, and sort of keeping one of them on the floor. And then doing all that it's doing a great job on the other side of that the Washington Wizards are quietly imploded like usually this happens liquor in the season or in the playoffs. But it is bad right now if the wizards they are one in five and last night against the clippers it was late at night, if you're on the east coast they lost but twenty eight points to the clippers and it did not look good at all for the wizards. Jalen, rose, what is happening to the wizards. Let me just say some real quick about the clippers. They're better than people think they got a lot of season vest is going to show up play har-. Lou will Tobias Harris Herrell they got Beverly like a bunch of Grizzle vets gallon Nari, and they have a great coach. So I'm not really surprised that they actually beat the wizards on their home floor in LA on the west coast trip. You know, a lifestyle things comes with that as well. But for the wizards there may off season acquisition to white Howard is in plan, but they're not Dwight Howard away from being a team. They are. No, they're not tweet. How is that gonna come in? And save this basketball. I didn't say he would save them. What I'm saying is he helped solidify their lineup for me one of the glaring things. You have to point out is and you can't judge players nowadays based on their salary, but in salary cap sports, like the NBA NFL when you dedicate resources to one player that means you're taking them away from another asset you provide. And they gave out a Puerto be contract. Yes. And so they need him to play it in all star level, and that's not half. What happened with Otto porter is their coach Brooks is literally using his name saying auto needs to play better. And you don't see that a lot in the NBA. What does that say to you that the coaches calling him out on it is true? And it goes back to what I just said we have an all-star level back. Court who has to play better. Let me say that about voltage those guys show Golden State and Steph curry shooting them down to and so I if foremost leadership and the best players have to show up in John wall and Bradley Beal next you look down Russell. I okay. Who can we rely on Uber as going to play heart? But he hasn't got the big deal auto porter somebody investing, and so when you pay him in today's game, you need him to go up against Kawai. Katie LeBron who that you're getting what that level of contra got one hundred million dollars. I believe you had six points in last night's game. I don't have the stats in front of me. So solidifying the lineup would have been to have the white Howard as the center because now just like this Minnesota Mahim e it just sends you a lot of different spots, and one of the things I wanna make sure I point out. Both of these teams. Look a lot different when the Morris twins play. Well, okay, that's Boston and Washington. Okay. Distinctly different when both of those guys because they gonna give you toughness and shot making when they're going and defense, but when they are playing, well, the Celtics and the wizards seem to be operating the best. I love the Morris twins shout out. The people of New England got what they wanted. The Boston Red Sox are World Series champions since we lasted this show that eighteen in game they had come back game. And then yesterday it was this Dame got to her Shah early in the first, and then they got to again got all. And then the best pitcher in the game. They got to him again. JD martinez. The third homerun off occur Shah. And then here's added another later in the game. Jalen rose. Yes. Indeed. This was a dominant World Series performance from the Red Sox the best team in baseball. They just performed Well Chris sale their starter finish the game. Usually I like I like the the pitcher to jump in the catcher's arms. It's using the other way around the celebrate into the night. The people of Boston are probably still celebrating at this moment. They just everything works. Well, the manager made the right decisions pitching the relievers. The bullpen the hitters everything worked well for the Red Sox and I loved die easy Red Sox fan. But you want to ask you about the other dugout you've been to the finals and lost. The dodgers have now been the World Series two years in a row and lost. Is it gonna take some time? And then they consider this success. Or is it going twice in role in losing like almost worse than going once? You know, how to gate success off a realistic expectation and for the dodgers they continue to go all in for a team. That's not only trying to make it to the World Series. But to actually capture and based on their goals, they came up short. So in theory. This would not be considered a success for what they hope to get accomplished. Now. Of course, it definitely means something to make it to the World Series. And you brought up my playing background as an example when we went as freshmen to the national championship that was considered a success course, nobody saw comment. We were six e we started five freshman. Everything was new when we come back sophomores, and we ranked in the top five, and then we get to the championship in lose. That's a failure and base. It also who you lose to a freshman year. We lost the one in a greatest teams of all time. Yup. Just beaten. Vegas some guys idolize year before Carolina we had just beat them during Christmas. We have find a way to get it done. So for the dodgers they're going to now. Go back to the drawing board with two major decisions one. Do you bring back the manager? Who's got a lot of criticism and or two they gotta wait and see what's going to happen with Kerr show. Believe already supported Roberts already feel like we're good and Kershaw can opt out in the next three days. So it's kind of on him tells me that he will often and one of the things about this. That was so nice. It's like you like you mentioned the Red Sox had the best record in the major leagues. So it's not surprised they won the World Series. Even though it doesn't always work out that way, but there's a sense of relief. And no one was more relieved than Red Sox starter David price who was so publicly. Oh intent the media just kept telling the number ten the postseason tennis last posted. He didn't have postseason sex success lately when he had early in his career and the relief in the sound of this man's voice. I love this sound, right. Here. That's David price after the game hold all the cards now that feel so good. So. I feel so good. I can't I can't tell you how good a feel to. To hold that Trump card, and you guys have had it for a long time. You've played that card. Extremely well. But you don't have it anymore. You do that feels really good. This is a game. We get to play. It's a it's a relationship that you make you know while you do this while you play this game. As what makes his game special two things, you know, Madonna fan. I'm also a cry easy, man. So I'll see tears I love to see Megan emotional. But what does he I hold all the cards? Now, I hold all the cars. He's talking to the media about the media like dig us behind the curtain on what he's thinking. I like that you alluded to and you say postseason success accidentally said not having post-season six which may happen. Will happen. I appreciate him articulating that point because so many athletes act like they ignore the noise. That's false. Okay. You understand what's being said around you because you're living at twenty four seven three sixty five whether it's all social media, whether it's television outlet, whether it's true, and or whether it's fossil and it burns when it's true Ken lot Owen. Tin the numbers of for it self. Now, here's what I want people to understand. This is what separates those to actually get a chance to play in the big leagues. Get a chance to play an NFL get a chance to play an NBA is that other than your talent hard work. And you you ability is your opportunity to persevere what's her bullets have so many times individuals crumble, he didn't at the biggest moment. Now, you have to believe in yourself had to have a team believe in you. And then you have to get to the point where you can. Actually persevere and he did it a couple of games throughout this run. After him to be that guy that was out there on the mound during a time where they were going to be able to close out the World Series had to be ultimately gratified. Peers got the P I would have definitely given it to David price. But that's because you know, I'm a motion, you know. But that's just me moving on some great news Red Sox fans some bad news for Tyler over the weekend. Tyler was relieved of his duties as head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers, they went to the finals. How many years in a row four three? I wanna say four but three with Todd Lou and tie. Loose started. Owen six not a great start to the season for the Cavs. But expectations were pretty low considering they lost the best player in the game. Jalen rose, you think it was smart for them to relieve Tyler of his head coach. I'm just happy got his brand already. And the reason why made that distinction is there were periods throughout his coaching tenure. When you're not only leading team, but it has the best player in the game on LeBron James and icon figure people always going to undermine your role when your team wins. They're going to give the credit to the best player. And when your team struggles ain't gonna put the blame on you. That was always a push pull that he was going to have to deal with so with LeBron gone. The biggest thing that people unto estimate about him leaving they got nothing in return. Yeah. The everybody keep forgetting the fact that you now lose the Brian Jays. And they got zero compensation in return. So you give Kevin love max deal. But you still stuck with a lot of contracts. Jared Smith comes to mind, Tristan Thompson comes to mind, and you now need those guys to be NBA. Veterans contributors, not just necessarily ov- layers and win that does not happen. Somebody has to be a fall guy for team Owen six in theory. And I don't speak for Tyler who I think he did a really good job with that team. Yeah. I think he deserves it deserves another opportunity. So from that sense. I actually feel like they did him a favor because now he has time to reassess the league actually put himself in position to get another gig that I think he's gonna deserve into a really good job is because if they weren't if they're not gonna keep it, right? If they're going to say oh Tyler this season. And then we're gonna get rid of him. Get some. In the offseason. They actually did kind of do a favorite because he's getting his money. So he gets paid. He doesn't have to sort of like slog through this whole regular season of underperforming. Cavaliers kinda fly all over the place and work this this job that feels like a dead end job. And Dan Gilbert shown, he got money to burn coaches because Mike Brown's probably still getting paid fire David Blatt after they made it to the finals as you Mitch and now t Lewis, well, so it's going to be interesting to see what direction they go in moving for if Larry drew doesn't keep the job fulltime. Larry, wait. You want me to where we got negotiates? He's been announced. But he hasn't put like he has fully fully announced in vet share with us. Alary no extension. Nothing. That's great for me opportunity thinking so much. But I don't know if that's great. But this is a perfect place for me to say say, I always as a player have to put some responsibility on the people that op there wearing shorts and Jim shoes that are competing. It is so easy for fans and media, you see it what the dodgers and their critics going to point to the managerial decisions same here would loop. But at some point when you look at the dodgers roster to meeting loss to a better team. But also you want to got to perform unique Clayton Kershaw you start. Yup. In the postseason you need. Kevin love to be all-star. You need him to go to a number one option. So the numbers that you're seeing from the best players in the east. That's what he's supposed to be giving them. And what he's not doing it startled six. Of course. Well, there was some reaction from some Kerr. Current and former Cleveland Cavaliers on social we start as everything does with LeBron James to the memories and more importantly, our partnership bringing a championship to Cleveland and JR Smith. Thanks him as well with the old palm on the face emoji. How do you think it feels if you're Kevin love Jerry Smith Tristan Thompson to have gone from locker room? Well, it's two way to look at it. Because a couple of the guys that you just said are actually still playing. So if y'all wanna to keep his job ball, don't I g me don't sweet to score for me. Yeah. That that's how you can show me love. Well, Kevin love sidelined for month. We just found out with an injury moving on to news. The matt. Jalen rose. This is very important. And this goes back over a decade. Fifty cent job rule always going back and forth been going back and forth. Thrift fifty cent reacting to some news that JAL recently had to cancel a concert in Syracuse fifty cents said he bought two hundred quote front row tickets to a concert in Arlington, Texas. So he could leave them empty and then posted vis on social media just him. I'm self in the front row of a concert, supposedly fifty cent. That's photo shopped. But here's the thing. Jalen rose. We'd lost Jalen and Jacoby investigation. He says he bought the monk groupon. You can only buy two tickets at a time on groupon. He said he brought front row tickets. It's a standing room only event. Do you think he bought a hundred pairs of tickets in the front row to a standing room only event or he's trolling? I think. This beef because this this qualifies that has gone on as you mentioned for over a decade is so far so personal that I wouldn't be surprised if he did a little bit of both if he could do something to sabotage gyro and the other way around they both have been doing it. Consistently says a funny one I wouldn't put it past fifty cent to just get some of the details wrong or maybe exaggerate a little bit. But I really do think that he gave his credit card information to somebody not himself. It's by up a bunch of these tickets, no doubt. And that's one of the things that like if you're going to know j- artist is have them standing on a stage and looking into a crowd of empty seats. We've all been to those shows we've all seen those shows really can't be fun. Like, we all magin the sold out arenas. But you know, those shows where like actually waiting for the headliner you're there, and the crowd's not really, they're the shuffling. They don't know your songs, they're not paying attention. They're on their phones. That was my tire stand up career moving. A gentleman was on his way to a football game celebrating the Carolina Panthers. And this is what he decided to bring in a backpack. He's got about seven pieces of fried chicken in a back pack. Jalen rose saw over boss move, B Y O C this. There's question false move. I mean, I've a lot of questions like how many have you seen me transport chicken? I see you are you are known for chicken transport, chicken, even across transported chicken. We have to be perfect. I believe in his own chicken. Like, he must really be really be like only, my chicken is the only acceptable ticket. Not only that but your auction is something over price, and you don't even hop though. But here's the the soft move some hot sauce in that bag all move see-through backpack. We'll just wants to get in. I don't know. What that is. He if I can. I wanna see some hot sauce something that you coming for longtime has finally happened. Huge. Accent is no longer the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. What does that tell you about referred to this earlier? It's going to be interesting to see if they are going to dedicate the necessary resources that actually takes to get a quality coach one of the things that I think it's under estimated about their situation is not only have they been a bad football team based on a product you seen on the field. I don't know that they're necessarily willing to invest in a head coach to turn the situation around. Well, we'll find out soon. Head coach definitely still has their job Oklahoma state university. Coach Mike Gundy, his provided us with some legendary south from the polio. And the sound he made on the podium. A- may already is even better when he was asked about social criticism where from where. From where? Twitter radio. Sass about Twitter. Platform for people that are sitting home trawling, John employment. Check sent in front of a keyboard. Couple things he didn't just go. He went back to the twice which I love by points out. Jalen rose. Why people with unemployment checks? You know what I mean? It's like it. Looks people need employment checks to get by in between jobs or whatever come on my gun to go after the Twitter people, but he'll go after the unemployed people. Absolutely also like none of us are immune to criticism. It just comes with the territory and just because you as a head coach are removed, and you're going to dismiss an ignore that it happens you shouldn't because your players are in the age where it's really prevalent. So I would think the goal should be to actually educate them on how to use it and how to block it out. And you know, what you're onto something you at the right way to educate them when you see someone criticizing Twitter, you should consider it wait appropriately taken into account. But you're. Attitude. You probably be. That's really what it should be. I was listening to him talk. I'm showing my age. He's he could be the he sing the theme song of the dukes of hazzard yet. The good old boy, he's he's got a little twin. I would play from my Cundy. I love it. I love it. He rides for his guys. I'm a man, I'm forty. Where's chris? He kind of got the reporter to like, you know, Twitter. Right. But then the reporter guy what he wanted a great, son. He was going back and forth with what what the coach Russell Westbrook is known for wearing outfits and fashion forward, and sort of being an innovator in influence in the fashion world, so he did this fashion shoot with German magazine that he didn't think would see us over here in America. But the backgrounds the clothes that Elvis kissing somebody on a shirt, that's kind of a fleece not mad at that one. But the rogue at the basketball world that look at the socks and no shoes. What what what is happening here or things for worse was that he giving them checks. Russell you're gonna wear. These socks are gonna match this shirt underneath a sweater vest is like all right, whatever like some clothing sponsor has some relationship with the magazine look at the they're gonna get Russ to take the pitchers for archiving in promotion. Keep getting them checks. Do you have any of these glamour shot backgrounds in your past? Draft day. Jaylen up some bad news, not bad, meaning bad, meaning good meeting. We got Ambos wit. We did random up. We did that astray. We did. They told you bring you to America. And you didn't realize what was going to have you do guy here. No. That's not. They pulled us. They got us. And I got an you know, what I just wanna celebrate the people that got us. That wasn't Justin Bieber. That was a team of people concocting a scheme. To make it look they flew in a Justin Bieber look alike to LA. But here's what I want to say about this. It was a really smart ploy because they didn't say like, oh, we're gonna have this Justin Bieber lookalike run naked down the street or have him assault. Somebody. You're set something to have him set off a fake explosion somewhere. Like, they didn't go big with it. They had it. I saw video and they had the the brainstorming session. Someone's like what if we had eat a burrito. Like this like it was a corner of the cop. And everyone's like that work. So they dressed up put a wig on them. They took a picture of him eating a burrito. And then there it is us talking about it on the show me eating a cold. Breakfast burrito on national television being bamboozle. They got good say, you you saw the picture you thought it was just in. Well. I didn't eat a burrito. No, okay. So you took time energy from your day to send Texas emails to get a burrito. Yeah. Meet harlot talked about a lot right? Put it in. Rhonda video overeats guy had to cry on a bicycle. Okay. You spent a lot. Rideau and bringing in was a team effort. I all if you haven't been paying attention to our program. I don't know what's wrong with you. It's looking a lot better. And I gotta give jaycee John Curtis. A big shot off. Oh, here's a mazy the pitchers. A plus. We got you. Care about this in Los Angeles. We got we got four five six people working on his great. You know, how important I gotta step up. Our performance precious on smoking involve got the Tilton hours. Nice. Lease you're doing all this research last night. Yes. I got online cliffs Kayla. Johnson. We got. Let's make a promise to be better. More pressure on us to work harder. If we work hard, it will be better naturally, not necessarily. Okay. Maybe we shouldn't work harder. Maybe we should we should go. The other way round. The monster jam. That ain't the right voice cut tell you about Maud search jam. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, we haven't get a voicemail about it. Listen to that. California. Yeah. How staff? Haji koby. Due at the monster truck show. It's a copy fair-haired. Look the monster truck driving, look like. I was wondering is a cultural or reasonable. Could be a monster truck driver. 'cause I never thought of the driver. I watch just started truck out of character. So. Yeah. Cultural or know. Say they won't. I'm five thousand five thousand ole Twitter handle you handle you don't hit me back in five minutes. I'm out. Thousand of d. Islip, Long Island stand up Eric parish DJ, scratches family, red men DASA. Thanks. They shot to be from Berkeley. Couple of things. I can my out. The crowd to determine whether or not attending monster jam was cultural regional. Universal. I was impressed. And I was happy to see. It was a very diverse group of people watching those Mazda trucks. Reg there? I was there. I was there. Reggie. Oh, okay. Revenge taking my ear Alex talking too much in my ear. Okay. It was a diverse group of people attending Mazda champ, not only that. Tell but the question is a good one is the monster truck drivers they're trying to sell the drivers. Now, not just the trucks. You know, they do interviews with them and stuff, and they put their names up that put him on the Jumbotron now there are not yet. The most diverse group of people out there in the world, but they're making strides their making strides, and I would say the one of the most oppressive performances was from El Toro loco driven by a young woman by name Caleb blood. Quincy was into dyed her hair purple. The monster jam experience was great. It was loud. It was you need ear protection. It was going moss jam, but put your plugs on put headphones, top, your ear plugs. You're a great debt. I'm glad you guys got a chance to go and enjoy it. He got sick though. He went to hard definitely cultural. I don't care what that crowd. Look like. Okay. First foremost second, the reason why no is soon as this topic came up. Two people who happened to look like me as a relates to their race Reggie Kayla. Immediately jumped into the microphone was ready to give it to you. But it's almost like the word of mouth. They're not believe your trusted by the mount family here. Jalen and Jacoby, Reggie said, no pictures, no interviews duck. Take on my phone goal to a black person Muslim say, sir. Black person monster jam because my friends that are also black won't believe a black person here. Mafia do that? We'll hold on to that. How would say what your about your about to say, Jan go ahead? I'm on Instagram. Now, I follow you, you Instagram the entire thing. You hit the brakes. Rich hit the brakes Rijn. So now you want me to put strangers I don't know on Instagram. That's what you want me to do. Mr. I'm not a zoo animal. Jacoby you pushed strangers on your all at the time. Number one, number two. Number two. This is really important. You didn't have to search for black people to be there. If it was a lot of them there. What I was there. You weren't there. I'm joy. Trunk taking staff when I scan the crowd. I was pleasantly surprised by the crew around me. Let me tell you. That's what I'm saying. Hey, you believe that. Then he allowed to say, I was pleasantly surprised. That's the statement about my own feeling. That is a fact this voice, right? Here is cultural monster jam. Okay. Tom periods Caucasian. That's a media term overall. Lot of people that drink, bud. Light Coors, light and Budweiser. Okay. Well, universal by the way. Also, it's the same people that drive race cars. Really fast beats a lot left turns very different skills to same people. That are Chaki jockeys differ. He's got tiny. Okay. Let alone Tino. Okay. But my point still stands you GD tyre thing. I looked at it. And I can't I didn't see any people. Call. I didn't I g the crowd because you're out you monster. Jalen tailing? You want me to just specifically doing of some nice black family, just enjoying Mazda jam? Okay. I'm I'm off this conversation. I'm off his conversation in my immediate. To see a black family of four there. Are you serious? Yeah. You know what you're wrong. I saw black family of five saw back to sublet maybe three saw back before. Joe Joe, Joe Johns. You've never been Bridgeport. Then I have been a bridge in Bridgeport. I remember just so, you know, thirteen and under right now, we came to Connecticut a team from Detroit. I'll never forget this. And we felt like we was some city kids, and we was going talk that talk and walk that walk. We ran up on the wrong people in Bridgeport. And before you know, it it was fifty them chasing us out of the ball. I'm telling you. Okay. So I have a lot of respects. So you're talking bowls hometown. So you don't think that there was a black family? At mossy Jim Bridgeport because you're south city right now saying knowing that is you don't believe me speaking to lie on it. You know, what I guarantee you? It was not a black family afford there. Not a black family of four lot data. There are a lot of people listening. I took an elevator with the black fame before knowing that too. I'm not lying on the line. I kept an eye out for this. This. There was a black mom got her hair done, four master master. You know, what upsets me it's up sets me only one there. Have. No, you'll y'all just going off of some of what you think what the reputation is. And I've coming onto this microphone. I know this distributed to hundreds of thousands of people, and I'm saying I was pleasantly surprised it was actually more diverse event than expected. And you know, what you're taking a conversation. This tapping twenty six. Away from what was important the performance of Toro loco the performance of the great grave digger team in making it about race sticker. Sports. Jalen, sticky sports. Great sports, like monster, jam politicizing everything this was tearing our country apart. Jalen rose this. I guarantee you gratin with the monster jam growing up. Crock probably pick up a monster truck and eat it for breakfast. I learned a lot about monster trucks. We bought the magazine. All the monster truck details because Quincy learn things I know about all the different tricks that they do there's there's some press performance of stone crusher flipped over. And then they bring out this this big like escalator thing with an arm that flips the truck back over again. It was exciting thing. I did expect ATV's they sell you on the monster that give you the going around and circles. All right. I'm here for monster trucks dog gotta say, he ain't saying right? Where did you go again monster? Cultural bigshots, Mazda, definitely cultural. I'm not saying it was fifty fifty. I'm not saying it was reflective across section of our American society. I'm just saying pleasantly surprised by the diversity of the crowd. You surprise ten percent. Got it. Okay. Now, you want me to put a number on it. 'cause you don't live my life. Percentage of this room is a minority. I don't live like that. I see souls this human beings. No ninety percent human beings, just human east human dating twenty stirred twenty eighteen and was a family of four please prove me wrong as someone will lease someone will. I saw some people that recognize me say anything people people have color. They probably listen to this show. How many people gave you debt? About our show one, dude. See that lets you know, it wasn't no diversity that reflect our show that will reflect the people that were on the show. Let me tell you diverse. I'm telling you, I'm telling you right now. And you're not listening. All these people around me, always people my ear, all our producers. No one believes me. Now. I'm like, I'm like, you know, what the people that are closest to you. That's what it is the people closest to you other ones the snake, you that's what it is. I'm telling you drink right now, you have thought I was just going to save one simple sentence because must James not about race and politics much appreciating the performance of the athletes is about tricks. You know, what the trucks tie? Say one simple Senate his move on. And talk about the great performances that happened that even between these athletes and their their machine partners. But no addict Tacoma athletes. Oh. Here's another thing that makes it more cultural what kind of terrain. Driving trucks dirt. It's on are. We ain't getting dirty. There. There's there's there's about a handout me to go. Minutes. Hugh, and there's also a nice mix of female drivers as well. To the monster champ's circuit. The most important thing the Q headed amazing. That's all you little tired. A man I went to the step up on it. I didn't know there's a one o'clock take this long train ride, and he loves the train. But after an hour the next stop. Our kids are we there yet? We're not there yet. You a great dad. That's the most important thing as well. Seventy guys. You don't trust me? You politicize everything you know, what? I mean, this is this is not the right way to look things. You guys are the problem. You guys are the problem now read just right everybody is the problem with this. You know, what I was there in Noah, believe me? You don't believe the words come out of my mouth, the why do you continue to produce this program? Why did you be a co host with me? If you think I'm just gonna go on Lyle time. I'm honest. There's a lot of people they're working. Okay. I just said this. I was pleasantly surprised people at work or let me speak, Stephen Egger. Let me speak. I was pleasantly surprised with the diversity in the crowd. I didn't say it was fifty fifty. I didn't say it was represented a cross section of our great society. I just said I was pleasantly surprised at the diversity in the crowd. I got yelled at for five minutes. But the people that are closest to me. That's what happened. Okay. That's what happened to me. I'm done with this show knocking. I'm not quitting forever. But I'm quitting for the next twenty three hours. Okay. That's fair. So I'm not answering all tax. Emails fair for the next twenty three hours, and I'll be back tomorrow. Walk harris. Don't you dare? Guys. I love speaking of hobbies. Let's talk about LeBron James. Yeah.

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"Welcome to the undisputed podcast, hosts Jerry Taft this podcast is the full show from today's episode undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate so skip Shannon. Let's get to it. Good Morning. Happy Friday Johnny Tap West Skip, bayless and Shannon Sharpe the morning. Guys how you doing good morning. Happy June teeth. He'll happy Independence Day to you shed two year community Shannon. Go for those that don't know this official day, yeah! Supposedly, they were free, eight, hundred, sixty, two, three with their master patient proclamation an. So happy Jewish. No, social, media. Yeah I'm great. Don't get you right here. This that happy I will look I thought they were jaw. Bad Is. Really. Look right here really. Good luck. So colorful I don't even know. Black Friday for skip over there. Do you briefly mentioned social media and you know what workable things that took place? Catch you guys up to speed on exactly what I'm talking about so yesterday we talked about Katie Calling Kendrick Perkins a sell out and skip. You made a point on the show that you later posted on twitter. Saying Kevin Durant called Kendrick Perkins a out because for four years and okay, see perk was Katie's enforcer. Slash Bodyguard Katie. Thank perk and his two thousand fourteen MVP. Speech, then perk played briefly with Lebron and sold out to him now. Katie is the enemy and the Braun is beyond Jordan. Mab Rich Randy Park well perk responded to you skip. It skips. You're wrong again. Brandon I have been friends since the eighth grade, and by the way we played on the same a you team in high school all the Oakland soldiers you have it lert since the last time you took an L. on your show and had to buy me a case of Diet. Yeah. That is the latest and I need. Your reaction, this morning i get to that case. Do. except he wanted to diet coke, which is like irreverent blasphemous on this show, but here we go. I. Want to thank my man Kendrick. Perkins for an. Me because now I get it. Yes, as Ginny points out I, did wonder out loud on yesterday's show and then on twitter. Why Kendrick Perkins so crazily? Defense Lebron why he launches these personal attacks on anybody who becomes a threat to Lebron on the court C. K. D. or off the court when it comes to activism, see now kyw read. And I wondered, how did Kendrick Perkins play four great years with Kevin Durant, and Oklahoma City as his enforcer as his bodyguard always had K D's back. And Katie even went so far as to thank Kendrick Perkins in his two thousand fourteen in the speech. And then perk turned on K.. D., and now Katy has gone so far as to call perk sell out. But now I have been enlightened. Now I understand because perk didn't know this per played. On an AA you team with Lebron James in Highschool Perk says they became very close friends in high school now, how from Accra N- Lebron? Wait a second and a kid from Beaumont Texas say Kendrick Perkins played on an Aau team located in Oakland. California the Oakland, soldiers I love that name, the Oakland soldiers, but how that came to pass I can't quite figure out, and maybe they were pros before they were pro. Right positive. So! Now I understand Kendrick Perkins and I understand that he felt all along part of Lebron's high school. Inner Circle See Maverick Carter. See Rich Paul See Randy mims I said see Shannon Sharpe, but not high school Shannon City. He came later to the inner circle. But part believes that he was there from the star. So that's why I tweeted I. Didn't know yet about the the Oakland connection, but. Mave. Rich Randy Perk. That's what he considers himself so now Kendrick Perkins. Thank you because all of your opinions of Lebron James are now this qualify? Because now you have admitted. You're very close bias when it comes to Lebron James so now I just roll my eyes every time I see on twitter. That kindred Perkins's tweeted. Lebron is better than Michael Jordan or if he's tweeted on on twitter, Lebron is the greatest athlete in NBA history or the next time he says Lebron is greater than Jesus I. Don't think he's gone that far, but it feels like we're getting close to Lebron is better than Jesus when it comes to Kendrick Perkins so now. Now it comes clear. He did not betray Kevin. Durant no this preceded that he was close friends with Lebron in highschool so now, thank you very much Kendrick I get it. I stand corrected I. Stand in lightened and you. My friend are completely disqualified when it comes to talking about Lebron James Thank you, so he didn't betray kate. Stay loyal to King Jay did on the down low, because this was unpublicized. I have never read about this. I've never heard about this because. Remember we Kendrick was applying. It seemed like he never did an interview because he did not like the media, he stayed arm's length from the media. Right you this. I had no. Well you know what I started to hear. This like cassavetes reached out to me on a on twitter and said they wanted the same AAU team but I. And I'm thinking the same thing you. Hold on the Bryan Ohio Perks in Texas all my, which is run out Texas down on the by you skip I. Get it. They're both like James Harden. James Hardie rose. Okay, even know California's a big state. But. They were in southern California near their communities next door to each other how? To be a you travel teammates three thousand miles away. In another state. Is that all of that? So the Oakland soldiers and then I look deeper last night. There ranked all time the fourth-best AAU team ever because there was one in New Jersey that featured Koby and Vince Carter and rip Hamilton. Wow okay. How did that? I don't WanNa know Kobe's from fairly. I'll real but I. Know Vincent from Florida. He's so I. Guess You just go pick? I will help him. He'll go peak still look. I'm not going to do that because you told me said you got very close to Michael. Jordan and there are tied that he would call you. Let me. Talk to you and you know. So, now I'm going to have to look at you. Know a little little little side I I have never once socialized with Michael Jordan I Had a quote unquote beer with them. I've not had a meal with him. I just knew him reporter to sub. But he he did things for you. He called you over and gave you. Impo didn't give other people because he respect. Okay. Thank you, Mike, so maybe candidate respects Lebron. With Donald. Kate we do that. We cannot say because. Someone is friends with someone does not mean they can't be objective. I get it. Skip it, and you try a new you're GONNA try to make this more than what it was scared. That was twenty years ago. Yeah, we're loyal, but I believe per has the ability to be objective, says okay Lebron didn't play well. Lebron mischief or Lebron needs to do that. Yeah, but he also knows what his is telling. He also had played against Lebron. Lebron played with Lebron and what he sees, not Lebron, still playing ultimate high level I love the fact that a big ended up apologizing to carry. We'll get that a little later skip, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonNA discount anything that Pertz says I get an invest a lot. There are a lot of people that close with other people that do what we do in the media. That's closed. Beat players, and you don't discount this. But but high school friends goes deeper it lasts. You Got Roots together right. Yeah, okay. Yes, okay, it went so far! That's that's why. I went off yesterday on the show. Went so far as to have. Kendrick suggests the day before. That the death of an African American, eighteen year, old, African American female, the murder of of this woman in Akron. Lebron's hometown got nationally overshadowed didn't get enough national attention because Kai. Re was talking about boycotting the bubble in Orlando. And he blamed that on Keyarena. I'm saying Park. You've lost it man. That's just too much of elite that that is not fair to career skip. I think they've made. To have three suspects. Give that look conspiracy theories look i. don't really think. I, think the thing is that because it was getting so overshadowed because of the joint George floor things still continues to go on skill. That's really dominated the news now corona Kobe nineteen back in the new, because it looks like Florida is about to be the epicenter, and now all of a sudden basketball. We thought we were going to have basketball now. We might not have it because they're hundred plays. That's let. Not only as over the problem, we feel our boys will be muted. We're back down. So, and that's fair stance to take right now and Kendrick can't condemn Kyrie that stands because party Lebron. Maybe a big party Braun is his heart is with on. Yeah, but I think the problem. That perk head is that carry? You never may raise these concerns until the NBA. You couldn't go down in the bubble with your team. None of this. Came for wish until you were told Carrie, you can't tag along. Then all of a sudden he came out well. We maybe we should boycott I think that's the biggest issue and like I said I hate I. Don't WanNa. Speak Perk, but I believe that's what the issue is. An Matt Bahr was kind of critical of Cairo. Also I believe those were. Were some of the issues that they had with. Carrie can carry boys. These concerns earlier in the very beginning. I think people would have given us. Some of these guys that have a problem with what he said would have said okay. You know what category you make some compelling point, but it wasn't until ex post facto. After the fact he couldn't go. Well if I can't play, I don't want anybody else to be able to play. Also, so I believe. That's worth plus great perk and maybe a Matt Barnes came into effect. We carry okay so yesterday I was trying to walk back through in my head. The history of Perk with K. D., because for four years they they had greatness going because remember they went to three conference final right? They won one of them to get to the finals and play obviously Lebron de Wade's Higa right? Yeah, the baby thunders. I call. and. Yes, you to call them. That made is Lebron that's what you call them back, but they grow. There's some truth to that. But they were the baby thunder, but remember in K D's first finals that first baby thunder finals. He averaged thirty one a game, and he scored thirty six in game one, which they won handily and okay see and I thought Oh. They're off to the races right until game to when when goat got away with fouling payday on the baseline and Katie drives on the baseline and goes up for SORTA running jumper from about eight. Radio I. Don't know I think. You don't. Pull it. It was a foul foul Lebron. Hackney been. Really hard shot, but because I don't know a harder shot than a running little one hand or from eight feet on the baseline with no back. To I'd like to win abroad here just. TORONTO! The Luck Shadow. Without, but he didn't mean tobacco. backboard there. There's all their. File this. This is a foul. It gets fooled and. Grabbed his knee and down. You can't do that. It should have been two shots to tie game right there and guess what Lebron gets. The rebound and to his credit gets fouled goes to the other end up to nobody huge pressure. He made both of them to ice the game ice. He didn't win the game. He is the game why you do okay, but my point is perk is is involved in with the thunder, so he seeing young Kevin emerge as a superstar as very potentially the best player on the planet, so then per finally gets cut by the thunder. He bounces around, and he winds up with Iran and plays. Plays, very briefly with Lebron and Cleveland ended up starting only one game one finals game with Lebron and guess what game it was. It was that weird game four, Twenty Fifteen Lebron had been a warrior up to that point, remember head carried them on his bag. NOCI KYRIE NO KEVIN LOVE! Remember this and it's up two games to one in Lebron's house. I was there game four and I'm thinking. If Lebron close this deal tonight. The deal is closed because they're going to be up three to one. They're going to blow that lead. Because remember Golden State wasn't Golden State yet. They were all trying to figure out who they were and they did not have Kevin Durant. Golden State but just wants sixty seven games. There were sixty seventy payment on the biggest stage against the quote unquote best player on the planet. They weren't share who they were yet. What what was what needs to be? Be Okay, but what happened at at Oakland? They lost a game at home in Steph. We've seen him. Do oftentimes started coming up smaller and smaller in playoff games especially at home. I'm going to get to that in just one second but my. My point is in that. Game Lebron came smaller than Steph curry and I was shocked because I thought he had them right where he wanted them and remember what he did. He goes seven twenty two from the field. He goes five of ten from the free throw line, and they got blown off the court because Steve Kerr inserted iggy into the starting lineup, and not only did he guard Lebron, but he's scored twenty himself, and he became the MVP of finals. Starting to back the game three, because they were getting blown out in the all sudden, they put into the lineup and I. Think Steve Kerr stumbled upon bats by accident. Sometimes, the best things happened by accident, and that was an accident and what they did by doing that. Skip rendered their big useless, because if you look at Mars, you look at perks gift. Guide that commanded the ball shack. Get Tim, Duncan get the ball. A gardener guys to get the ball down the block. Able to do something with it. They were basically rebound and put back into the basket, so it rendered those guys useless and so now go to get up and down the court. and Get out. We've often seen in Lebron's playoff career. He loses games four, five and six. Four five and six against the The Dallas Mavericks Twenty, seven files, four or five and six against Boston, his last series, the first go round and Cleveland. Now back to perk. He did win a case of Diet. Coke Diet do because he requested diet coke for me, and do you remember why that happened? It was another game for it was last year's finals, and it was golden. State at home down two games to one and I will admit I made the bet with my heart, not my head because I was rooting against the guy who quit on my San. Antonio the Guy I would not call by name. The Guy I had named only number two what number to do that night to Golden State. I thought there's no way golden state is gonNA. Go down three games to one at home. Say His name now because I. I've forgiven almost forgotten. He's scored thirty six. He had twelve rebounds. Five of nine and he made nine of nine free throws. Lebron wouldn't be able to make nine of nine. I don't think he's done that before. So the point is they blew out golden state because Steph curry came up smaller than he even is at six feet three. He went to of nine from three in a do or die. Quote Unquote game at home. against. The new Lebron. The Guy who was on his way coming files MVP for a second time Colli Lynyrd. So that's why I lost that bet and then one final salvo I might love. Her. So he did take a shot at my age yesterday on twitter, and that's fine. I got no problem with that, but then I started thinking about Kendrick Perkins. Age I realized last night. He's only a month and a half older than Lebron James. He's only thirty five years old. He has to be the oldest looking thirty five year old on the planet. It feels like Kendrick Perkins played with Bob. COUSY, in Boston. Am I ride? Can't drink. What are you talking about other? No I didn't know poor got ballpark. But they came. Together yeah, by the same draft right one with first overall, and when one went I, think twenty seven, th overall, but in the first dry. Okay, so perk so again as I. Often do eight time pro come workout with me. I'm happy to do that. If we can live, we can go run. We'll see perk. Hang with that thing in the driveway. Perk within the dry. We're GONNA make. It might be thinking about comeback. Really would he actually? Is that right A few years past. That's just me. Per By me about thirty thirty two. Thirty pounds. Birth so in the end from this point on I will just scoff maybe even. Killed says about Lebron James his qualified. To make you correctness Oh Caja Perkins is the only guy that's in the media that do what we do that. Possibly having a personal relationship with a current player that his opinion might be by a few the only one. Where did Kevin Durant say about those who cover Lebron? James? What do they call them? Fan Boy, article say. What did the article in some Kevin? Durant team may say about him. It was the fact that he was not getting the praise and the Adulation Lebron. Eight bed drove him in frame M-. What did they say about that? He's always got to chips on colder right. I've always said Kevin. Durant got the thin skin of any superstar I have ever closely observed. He hold on how you you going to be Mad Lebron by the fan, and then he goes, he joins a three ring circus the Golden State Warriors, which was the hottest team though he joined it, so he wanted to be a part of that, and then we need I can look at that a very different way upside down. Not only did he join it. He rose above it. He said I'll go out there where everybody looks at them as a dynasty, and I will rise above their three headed monster, Steph Clay, and dream on, and I will become the best. Best Player by Thar on that team and he was the best player by far back to back finals, MVP's and with the NBA world on the edge of his seat, waiting for Kevin, durant to fall on his face and back to back finals. He took them over there. Why didn't he? Why did he take the game over? When he was up three one own that three headed monster, which was golden state, he, no, no, no, no, no, no rust! Do not put that arrest. Because remember got hurt, he got swept in the by. He got swept in a playoff. The everything that happens bad with Kevin Durant. We seem to give him an excuse. It was Russ Oh. It was golden state and they were just. Put Katie JD got. Somebody's not skipping. All I know. Is it a source very close to Kevin Durant told me that the reason he left. Oklahoma City was. He decided he could not win. A championship with Russell Westbrook as his primary decision-maker Ross brought the ball up the court every single time and it was Russell's choice. Do I let him take a shot? Or am I going to take another shot in routinely? Rush took more shots per season than Kevin. Durant skill I. That's wrong I have a problem with Katie Lebron he was a free agent. He had fulfilled its obligation, the okay o'casey Thunder, but this notion that. He had to go join Golden State that was a seventy three nine win team the year before, and they came back from three one on K.. Deep Skill. I don't know how how does go look? We lose a team to just lost the somebody from the forty nine one of their best players just loss to the Kansas City chiefs, and then create if he. Joins them. How go LOO, 'cause? That's what K. D.. Join Seventy. Three and Steph curry was a unanimous. He's been of all the MVP. He's the only one of Garnham all the first place votes. What anecdote do routinely tell me on this show? That draymond green fled out into the parking lot. Blew the lead to Lebron Company and called Katie on his cell, phone and cry. We need you. Please come save us. Is that now? You told me he'd be. Big If what? They. Say the best thing that he called the Ron he turned around ahead. Katie cried foul. I called him back. He called him to be work did and he blew it up and he blew it right out of town along what happened, he said Katie packing with that one word that magic be word that he added to him on that bench at Clippers early last season. That was the beginning of the end. Just said about that. Do from Prince George candidate hard uptown DC per. Deal that man you both have their. Mind that was file a unit eight like you tell me you drained mind. Me Outside that we have. I think Kevin is worse than fighter always said about Lebron but I. I don't think heaven or Lebron WanNa. Go out into the alley and decided I think so I. Do Yeah Tobacco. How you call a T. gated you you by call somebody adversary. I did it happens how you call the team I thought we family every team that you've ever heard O- family. That's my brother. I love him like a brother. Spend more time, and you don't call them up today. What did you think it was your grandmother or your grandfather? Tell you about. When people tell the absolute truth is when they're either drunk or angry Yup. Yup or what? Kids Agra there you go. And he was livid. He had they had clashed over. Who should bring them all right? And they go? They sit beside each other, and he lost it just the way he did against Lebron in that pivotal game four with. Really you go back and look at it. That was really melted. Get upset about I understand Katie like. Iraq they Katie Hey. We will win a game before you got here. And by the way, Draymond has often dribble the ball. He's often played. Point Guard Point Four. He's normally the highest total market facility. Can No doubt so okay? We'll house draymond. Feel right now without Katie. Feel good. He got a hundred meal that it. Got Three got these are all the Benjamin's. That's it. He's got doing. The at three rings got one more than Katie. right? How many finals? MVP And he got Solos get. He's he say. I got us a ring without Katie. Can you say the same Well all I gotta say is perk. We miss your on the show anytime. You want to come and. See. You are welcome. Part Yeah because. You might look like the oldest the instead. Okay guys calling Kabir. Nick has in unexpected new job. He's joining mediums board of directors as the online publishing platforms, only non white board member also interview high profile leaders activists than athletes and write stories based on those conversations so Shannon. What do you think? What are you surprised by this? I'm not really surprised up from, but when I look at it, we have really haven't heard much from cap over the last three years. They have been a couple of roundtable discussions about causes I mean getting know your rights campaign I think that's something that he started and and and and throw a lot of support money behind but for me. It's interesting that this is not sports. This is not football specific and I. Don't think this is an indication that he's bore or gift returning to the NFL so I don't WanNa read too much into it. Okay I think this is an opportunity for him to get his message out to even more talk to even more high profile. Get some activists get some athletes that that's that heavy. Saying that's in his corner for the goal for the common goal in which he wants to see and that's. Here in America, so for me, and still, we're not going to get an opportunity here, but he's going to be doing the interviewing, so it's not like he's going to be the interview E.. He's the interview ERC. Very good point, so yeah I don't know how much we're going to be able to deduce or or gather from that, but I think they started. This subject matter would be prison, reform and race right so. At the end of the day I think now what people okay, we still have we. We know what cap is doing off the field. I think the question. Does cap still want to play, can't he's still play and will he get an opportunity? I think eventually those are going to be subject matters. There's going to have to be addressed by cab because you keep seeing. Skip a lot of a lot of teams like. Mark Davis says. Hey. I always gave my coaches. If you WANNA sign him signing the a lot of other countries say we might be willing to take a chance him until that. That interview happened where they sit down and they discuss football related to skip not this not prison reform, not what you're doing off the field football related matters then, and only then will I was saying you know someone, serious and then campus. There's about returning to the NFL, but until then this is an opportunity. This is a job for him. Something that he's very passionate about and I'm happy to see that he's still actively barely. Everley involved in things of this yeah. So for me. This is a start. It's also not a finished to his NFL the. To things can be true, says Shannon Sharpe. You can do both right. Lebron is going to do both when they go to the bubble right. He's going to be an activist and he's going to try to win a championship I. Don't doubt that you can juggle those two ball right right. So. At least cap is sticking his toe in the water. Of more public activism. Grit and I. Don't know that much about meeting so I looked on their website. Last night got their mission statement. Medium it says is not like any other platform on the Internet are sole purpose is to help you find compelling ideas, knowledge perspectives. We don't serve ads. We serve you the curious reader who loves to learn new things so I that's that's a good. Connection for gap right place maybe right time. So. What has literally Twenty Twenty Hindsight Taught Us about what Colin Kaepernick did in two thousand sixteen. It took all time Gut Singapore. Is You for a starting quarterback a franchise quarterback in twenty-six. Way Ahead of this curve that we're in right now. This could be glorious curve. Win for him to say. I I'm going to sit for the anthem, and if that doesn't work, okay, take a knee for the the anthem, because somebody desperately to do something to call attention to this right, which is obviously unarmed, black men and women, being murdered by White Gods, and it just capping again and again and again, and again and again, and he finally said enough as a starting quarterback, he risked his livelihood his future and he lost it to take that knee so. As a social slash racial justice warrior. He has gone down in history for what he did. It took us four years to sort of come to grips with. It took four years for many outside the black community to say He was right. This is what that's what this is what he was. Oh! Okay to move past God and country flat, respecting the flag to. You're trying to make a statement. It's because you're part of that flag. It's your country to wreck, but your country is is not serving you the way it serves other. Colored Right? Okay, so now we get back to what has happened over these four years and I've told you oftentimes on the show and I'm going to voice it again. My frustration is I, haven't heard enough from Colin Kaepernick when I did get when I had the privilege of hearing him in two thousand sixteen after football games. He wasn't just a good speaker. He was a compelling riveting speaker to my ear. I was captivated because. He. He was enlightening with an edge. He had an edge to his voice. He had a raw real anger in his voice, but he spoke from a base of deep knowledge and. Comprehension and feel for what he was talking about. To the point that. I was hooked on listening to him. Speak and I thought here we go. We have an activist for the ages. He has the gift of Gab. You have the gift of Gab. It's something you can't be taught or coached. You're born with it, or you're not born with it. Trust me I've been in this business for so long. I know people can talk, or they can't talk. They can communicate, or they can't. Some of the greatest athletes we've ever had. Some of the biggest superstars sit in that chair and they can't communicate it. They can see, but they can't speak it. Colin could speak it so I've been frustrated. To the point of of hurting. Over here he was. He was a leader for the time. Right the he's obviously become the face of the movement. In utter silence, he does tweet occasionally. The one thing. I don't love about tweets. They're like tax. They can be misunderstood. They can be a little murky a little hazy. You mean what about what what what you know how it happens. You can get in trouble on twitter because you tweet one line, everybody says. How can you say that well? That's not exactly what I was saying. I really meant this well. If you have only X. number of characters or you don't even use the allotment right, if you just. If you just just fire off one sentence, it can be misread misunderstood mistaken. Okay so I would love to hear Colin. Speak do interview sessions, or at least do interviews one on one interviews. He's done next to. Nothing suffers Nike ads, and they're great, but it's not real pure rock Colin Kaepernick right and so I've tried to to read between the lines of what's happened here I. do think to a fault. We sort of looked at him as Are you the new Dr King Right. That's not fair. I can't put him on that pedestal. You're talking about the all time gift of Gab. Dr Martin Luther King Yeah. He was a minister by trae. Yes, he's of. Great orators in the history of the world. Yes, we're just just pull up a clip right now and you won't be. Your mesmerized by it so to compare Colin Kaepernick to Dr King is not fair. He's that maybe in his own way in his own style, he could grow into that, but he is. He's opted to remain mostly silent. His mystique has grown in his silence, and maybe that was the game plan right now. Is it better to say nothing and let your oral grow right? Maybe, but does that help the movement whose time has come right? Nah Not really. Agree with you on that, but I think the thing was. Is that in the beginning? We Cap told you what he was doing. You didn't like what he was doing so skip. You made it about instill. There are some sense he's is the flag and it's the anthem is kind of like when the guy when the people were taken to the streets. You didn't take talk about what they were taking to the streets for you talked about the looting you. You talking about the Righty so now you missed a home purpose. Okay, the calls an effect what called Colin Kaepernick to originally take us the, and then taking the at the behest of neighbouring who they agreed rate says eight taking a seat is going to be Steve perceived as bad. How about taking me shortsighted respect towards the plan? And by the way, Nate Boyer is white white for the writer. Yes, Green Beret I think he would be worth Texas I. Don't remember that but. That's what he that's what he's. The man who they a veteran suggested their cap took a neat. He took the neaten, told you why he was taking a knee, but because you didn't want to hear what he was talking about, you said if the flag and disrespected the anthem, okay like the protesters kept the industry, and you see, and you don't want to talk about that whether looting in their writing, and obviously our president and some of our NFL owner set that tone that you're talking about that because. Because that was an issue skip? I'll really WANNA touch that because these here, where I am I'm going to bubble is seventy, two and sunny it'll. It'll get chaotic over here where I know that's not coming to my neighborhood and I is anyone that I know. Skip or I have blood affiliates you with someone that I'm really really close to. They're not gonNA. They're not gonNA suffer at the hands of that. Yeah, so it is hard to get attached or something where you don't feel. You have impersonal connection. Skip for me when I watched. The ASPCA come on television. Already. Know I just GonNa. Get my checkbook. Because they start showing dogs shaken and the care I got go my money and. got a bunch of labels coming in and a t-shirt. Everything. Personal Connection Yeah, I love animals, you and Ernestine Bolt. In the every other night and says you think I just saw this. POOR LITTLE PUPPIES! Fifty three hundred. Twenty dollars. Got Deal. So that's what happened, so you don't have the personal connection to that, but for me his presence becoming bigger and so now maybe you even though he won't be. Interview E, you will hear his boys. You hear other people's voices on this and so now. Maybe it will even get a bigger a bigger supporting. Audience, so I'm happy. The irony is if let's say for sake of argument. You Have Colin Kaepernick Interviewing Bill Russell. Right! We'll I also want to hear bill. Russell ask Colin Kaepernick right question. Yes I want a two way street writer. Yes, because they're both historical figures to me Yes in Colin. It says is going on. Medium is going to do some long form of magazine style writing right great. There's nothing like. Being directly to a massive right in at some point, he's so capable of doing that. If I didn't think so, I'd say well. Writing is great because Dr. King wrote some of the great things, but a lot of his stuff that he spoke with Ad Lib. If. You look at a lot of his stuff. It was ad Lib. He wrote one thing and he spoke something different was I have a dream and a lot of a lot lot of with? Add live. In were you start? Looking at is there's something about voice I mean you reading it? But how do you read it in his voice? How did you hear the passionate? which he given that speech or you hear Mandela when he spoke, or you hear so many great orators church, he'll J. of Cape. When you hear them speak as opposed to reading their writing, it hits different so I believe if we weren't to hear cap speak. Although he could ride it along form, we can read it for ourselves if we were to hear him speak it. There's something about spoken word as opposed to win. June eighteenth is the oldest nationally celebrated commemoration of the ending of slavery in the US and new Cowboy Joe, McCoy one on Instagram live to discuss his support from making June eighteenth an official national holiday. He also brought up how his team owner Jerry Jones can help in the Movement for racial equality, and that he wants to hear from Jones adding quote. We'll get me in trouble saying that I don't know, but the truth is. It needs to be said so Shannon, would you like to see a statement from Jerry or a press conference? Of heard everything I need to hear from Jerry which was. So anything that he's looking I. Mean Come on, let's be real. I told him I told you at the time. That was a photo. OP. Say If you think Jerry Jones feels some type of way about this movement. He does not unmoved. He's doing this to try to show his team and they bought it. I'll give them credit. He a great dog about would. He logged on. He took it having. Eight nine. Hundred twenty fifth. Yeah, he took that knee on about it. Maybe they were conflicted in the locker room and he went in maybe ten minutes. Off and said I got the solution. Let's all step inside the out of bounds line. Go ten yards in in Neil. Together arms locked while bring my family. You brought everybody everybody GM yeah. Charlotte. It was a photo op so now whatever he says is not going to be authentic. He has as like now June. Eighteenth holiday paid holiday. It's if you didn't know better. I would just say laying last night I was thinking I. Say if you didn't know better. They had a crystal America. Christopher Columbus moment they discovered. They got black people. All. You know what? Let's get over day a day that they could actually get off. We celebrate the fourth everybody off. Get paid. Let's get him a day like they just discovered that a hundred and fifty five years after the fact I like wow, what a novel idea that I started thinking! We get Frederick Douglass get a date, but we rolled apart. We got a couple of days may holiday you get Little Jerry? Where years? Jerry can't say anything now. There's nothing jerry can say. That can convince the black the black community that he gives a damn about these issues. There's nothing it is. That time has passed. He had an opportunity and he released some tax statement where he didn't release. The state must give you remember when he's their the Dallas cowboys. There's this play pin and that you're GonNa told Line live helmet. Helmet you left arm hand over your heart, or you won't be playing for the cowboys, so he lets you know where he's doing. There's nothing he can say. Asked why. He hasn't said anything because like you skipped. Going to tell the truth now, so he can't get up there and. That's why release that statement. Released a statement say he didn't anything. But when you speak, if you uncomfortable or you start a and you start to look left and you start to look like. And Jerry doesn't wash. Their gear is not going to say anything so his silence, his spoken more than words ever could I'm good. Jeremy Co has say endurable, or you might get a little trouble, but you're absolutely right Jerry ships be. He's not, but I don't really know what he can say. After three weeks. What could he say that could convince you? that. He cares about this. Call absolutely So before I. Comment on everything you just said. Allow me to comment and to congratulate. Gerald, McCoy. This was groundbreaking for me and you know I'm a longtime cowboys here. He just got. He's been in this League for eleven years. He has made six pro bowls. He was the leader of the buccaneers, and I think he became a leader in Carolina. But the sudden, he made a move that was unprecedented within the confines of Jerry Jones Franchise. We've had one player after another. Take on Jerry over their contract, but nobody has ever dared to take on Jerry Jones publicly over. Club policy, this is policy he's talking about. This is Gerald. McCoy saying. It would be great to hear a statement from Jerry. Jones in support of everything that's going on. Will that give me in trouble for saying that? I don't know, but the truth is. It needs to be said. Boom! True True True Okay So. I was proud of him. We've had him on the show. We know him liking played a University of Oklahoma. I think he grew up a cowboy fan and Oklahoma City, so he has a feeling for the history of this franchise, certainly under Jerry Jones and. For him to dare to make that statement publicly. It took some guts in it took. Some stature has stature in the league. He is highly respected as a veteran star football player. He's thirty two years of age I. Don't know, I hope he's not on the downside of his career. They got him for reasonable right but Shannon. It dawned on me this current cowboy team. I'm not sure it's top heavy with veteran leadership as much as I love. Dak Prescott. He's not a vocal leader. I believe he leads by deed and I believe. That what he says in the confines of the Locker Room goes when DAX paired artery does not speak that much public right. He doesn't take big public. Stan right for or against. He's pretty. He's pretty noncommittal publicly, and when I look at the defense, which struggle last year mightily. Jalen Smith has leadership potential. Maybe demarcus does a little bit, but after that I'm not sure this man is a leader like a born lead. Yes, he was the leader at the University of Oklahoma and now maybe he's transferred that leadership into the cowboy locker room because that was a leadership statement of course that took some. To do that step, he said what needed to be sad with everybody else. Also the was afraid to and I think the thing is because he came from the outside. He just got there. He's unafraid of Jerry Yeah. Everybody else has been there skip, so they know how dare you know it is. A weird dynamic because they all know that they can go over the coaches head to Jerry's office and cry to Daddy Jerry. Please fix this right, but in the end they're afraid of. Because who the buck stops on his desk if you read what he said, he said it'd be nice if he issued a statement of support the. To support the issue of caused. Why you think he has. Nobody is go there. If this is an issue, skip that you don't support. People are not going to vote on it. People are not gonNA protest. People are not going to speak on issues the out there bed. They don't care about I. Don't really know what else to face gail. Simple as well, let's not make it over overly complicated so one quick point before I go to what you're saying. Remember all these players know the history of Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson. He fired Jimmy John Right after winning. Two Super Bowls, Jimmy one two in a row. And he said hit the streets. That's like he's crazy. You know what he's liable. When he loses a temper, he's liable anything. That's why there's some fear factor of Jerry within the franchise now to your point. Do I really WANNA. See Jerry make some very. Silly awkward video in which he agreeing Jerry Jones says I love me. Some black lives matter like come on. You would scoff at it. You would laugh at it. You would dismiss it you. You might even be offended by it right so jerry is in this case damned if he does or not, because this just isn't his lane, man. He I've told you before I spent so many hours around this man for the three books. I wrote on the cowboys I never once heard any suggestion come out of his mouth that he's racist by nature. I, don't believe he's a racist but I. do know for sure he is a capitalist. What he ate if I could capitalize off a race film also. It just. His capitalism, just it. Transcends everything in his life where he doesn't care about black lives matter whatever 'cause it is. Is it going to affect his bottom line willing? But The big picture man, not not really. It's just leave me alone. I got I got. I got bigger fish to FRY here. I'm trying to Winston. Football Games more important I'm trying to make billions of dollars. Yes, I, win a second yacht whatever? The Way Jerry grew up thinking they didn't have a lot of money. When he's kid he he made it the hard way in the oilfields, he plunged. He lost everything. He plunged he. He struck it rich. That's all he cares about so is he friends with his black stars? No, not really does. He sort of take him under his wing. Sure he does yeah, but it's because they can help him win. Championships simple simple as that. If you look at the three still on, we look at it. We look at the three guys that he the black guy that he's most comfortable he's close to. Michael Urban Dance Brat Zeke Elliott was a common denominators get. A really good. Another topic novel latest. At some point time they needed Jerry Jones assistance. Correct skill. Oh, off the field. He's carbon denominator. That's a very good point you. Hand holding hands with. Diaz Atas no. We're back. So you, you see the theme here so this notion well. What about how calls he was what Michael? How close he what? He. Getting him out off-field scrapes and Shoes I. Need a little funding I need. Zico funding you. Have gone through that stuff or during the week. That's why he also. Oh! He got into it. You go to get told Lisa Free- YOU'RE GONNA. GET US OUT OUTTA here on our hands. If you keep going, it's compete. Need is the I got a problem with it, but don't try to make thing like you really care about it. You care about the bottom line like you said money's. The can make me money I. Wear I'm on, TV. I get I. Go to the Playoffs Yada Yada Yada so I don't want to hear from actually. I'm good. I've heard everything that I need to hear from Jerry. Which is nothing? I've seen everything that I needed to see from June. which was nothing so I'm good I'm good I know Jerry said it. That's all I need all I need to know is where where you staying. Just don't fool me because I'm like. Does he, does he? I don't skip. I can think if you just tell me. Skill. If you say it'll Shannon, we do this if you say Shanna. Good, but don't say we go and then hair. To our later man I forgot just tell me you didn't WanNa do it. We'd have been cool. Yeah, now. You got me all fired up, they can. Do! To Forget. I know which airs stains I'm. Not Live with it so so obviously. Jerry silence has been disturbing only because wait a second. He's the only owner with his own radio show, and he is the only owner who speaks to the media in the locker room after every game without fail. Rut unless they've had a horrible loss and ducks, but but almost every Sunday. He speech to the media, no owner in the history of the League missing nope owner has ever spoken to the media as much as Jones. Except for this in now, the silence is earsplitting, right? You feel comfortable, saying he's the most powerful owner in sports regardless of sport unless you want to make a case for Mr Craft. But The craft is not as vocal in. Did they close their? They're very close I. Mean because I Roger, you know. He bounces things you know would have in the northeast and other. Way So you know those guys care a lot of weight. Jerry is more folk is so it's either one two or to one, but it's club. Yes, you're absolutely right, okay? I got it, but I believe that in the end the cowboy PR department and maybe even his son Steven. They're just saying WHOA. We can't put him out there to do it an. And with the media, a big media session on this. I I'm not sure what Jerry I don't know if he is capable of handling that now. On this matter that'd be that'd be a lot of people happy. They got paid off. They got June. Teeth paid holiday. I'll know how many people actually knew what would it? Take. Now The NFL's. That chief medical officer has responded to Dr Anthony Bow Cheese. Concerns and suggestion that the League keep its players in a bubble doctor Allen sales acknowledged the league knows it is a tough task and is working on a rapid result testing program Shannon European. Does the NFL also need to operate in a bubble is not these. Is is virtually impossible. Because you have to understand some. Don't some teams get various? Many coaches as they are NBA players on the roster, so if I'm just being conservative, if you're just talking about position coach in oc in DC, you're at tea and right there. Every position has a coach. And then you have the offensive coordinator, the defensive coordinator and they normally have to assistance per site. So you talk about fourteen fifteen guys with the head coach. That's just coaches. Okay, you're talking about forty six man roster plus twelve practice squad guys. How for five months for five bucks with thirty two. So unless you say hello, I, don't know. Cincinnati you're not gonNA. Make the play offs. This thing because you know what to do is. The playoff team and in team that within three or four games, yeah, so and so they took twenty third. So what are the in take fifteen to thirty two of y'all we'll go make it anyway and bring them down so if you WANNA. Take the same amount of people that the NBA is taken down for an NFL. You talking about things. that. I don't know how possible that you can put that. Many people thirty two teams will all those with that entire roster skilled in a bubble. What place you need a city and entire city to? Be Uninhabited. Ovarian y'all. y'All the only ones there and then what do you do a game? Okay. You Got Fifteen Games in the course of a week or you go play two to three games a day because that's going to take. To fulfill the obligation I. Don't know how you do this. On the circumstance and you look at Florida skill. is becoming the new epicenter. They got three team in Florida. Texas Israeli Carolina is rising. Take guy to teen I don't. I don't know how they pull this off. I think what's going to scare into. Basically you destroyed caution to the wind. There's that look. Go happen because you see the University of Texas had template. Getting may be. The NFL Texans had outbreak. Cowboys had a little outbreak, and not heard Tampa had an assistant coach. Positive I'll be honest. You know how they're gonNa do I did GONNA play. They probably not going to have fancy. We'll skip out on you can't you can't pull. Damn, two thousand people off in a bubble I just don't know how you do it. Skip, and then you gotTa have. That just kept. That's just the players the coaching. What about the trainers Dale? You gotTA help them. What about team doctors? I! Skip I'll be honest. I don't know how they can pull this off. But I don't think they can do it in a bubble. They gotta say guys. And you have to have to have them to have expanded rosters because can you imagine if Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady came down with this thing on a Thursday Friday. You. GotTa have the ability to just go grab people's guilt yeah. So I'll be the first Mitt the words from Dr. Fauci were like fingernails on chalkboard. Because I didn't want to hear because I want it to be back so badly in in just one. I think it's okay it's not okay. In. The good doctor says unless players are essentially in a bubble. It would be very hard to see how football is able to be played this fall. Quote Unquote. If there is a second wave which is certainly a possibility in which would be complicated by predictable flu season as the weather changes rights colder. Football may not happen this year. Says Dr FAO CHEAP Komo Dot. About a buzzkill. Real loud! Come on give us a little little glimmer of hope, a little tiny light at the end of the tunnel. You know. Give me an. If you. If you, there's no ifs and don't like it just doesn't sound good. So as Jamie pointed out the chief medical officer, the League of the NFL Doctor Allen Sills responded. We are considering bubble. What Shannon Sharpe just said how. It's nice to hear your considering it. It's kind of on your back burner, but it's impossible. You would need a bubble bigger than the state of Texas. Yes, to pull this off. I've tried to figure out last night. Could you do regional bubbles? Could you divisional bubbles? This league plays each other from coast to coast, right? You can't have a bubble. How many football stadiums are in a bubble? It's okay at the wide world of sports in at DISNEYWORLD ORLANDO. You Got Multiple Basketball courts contain. They're smaller, so you can get away with it. In confined space, right, you can have a captive audience. But how many football fields can you put into bubble where they already exist it? You'd have to build the bubble and the thing is okay. Okay, they got they take and twenty two teams that say you can have a maximum thirty five people, so you look at it. What six hundred sixty fifty's baby seven hundred times, and you would expand it to guess after one round of play all right then then each team could have up to seventeen guest rooms, so each player could get a guest right, but once you brought those folks right to the bubble. The bubble either so you got twenty seven this rough estimate. If you just do eighty five times thirty two. That's twenty seven hundred twenty people skip. No family. So, just imagine if one person okay one guess. So what what bobble? Okay and remember the NBA's going to be a sprint to the finish line two months two months, Max some some teams much shorter that saw a week a week or two, but the NFL season goes for five months. Will you can't confine? A, captive audience into a bubble for five months with those kinds of numbers involved. If you hold on. There are some some player that a man will have significant others and they have to. Three kids got bitterly be here. Though he'll. Just go ahead and say we'RE GONNA play. We're going to test every day. We're GONNA do everything we possibly can to make it as safe as we possibly can't do not putting this many people in a bubble. That's not happening if theoretically in possible. Vegas get hit, and the thing is the NBA. Is that okay you're in? Everybody's in. These players are going home. They going home at night. They go to the grocery store is going to go out and about they're going to go. Do other things, so you test the guy and he might be one day you tested. Boom because he'd come in contact with somebody. Without you may you be listening? You'll be to hear what he got to say, but you'll be like. Man. We would ever get back to normalcy. Nabi the likelihood of us. What normal used to be that probably happen again, but I try to pick. What is the new normal? Go look like because it seems like we keep the new normal I just don't see I. don't see how they do it. Skip the public. Forget the bubble. Do not put three thousand people in the bubble skill. You're not. So to me and I'm Outta my league in Lane here, but. Just knowing what happens inside my life, and what's happened here in California, it seems like every state or place that reopens or reopened early too early. Then everybody says it's summertime I'm free. Let's go out and party. Let's let's take our mask. WHO NEEDS A mass? It was all overrated start with it was all exaggerated start with and boom boom boom. We have outbreak. We got spike spike spike across the country. Because everybody quit observing the rule right and it probably didn't. It was a whole. They're trying to fair. Election Cycle of and try to do this to scare everybody. Okay good. There are some states that the testing is going down, but the number rising. So? Maybe we're going to have a new direction. Where everybody realizes, we gotta go back to the old way not to be quarantined at home, but you just gotta go back to be more careful. You're going to have to put your mass. Fredo my liberties I don't WanNa. Wear it that I should have to. It's not about it's not about you I want to be able to do what I want to do, so if I in fact, you so be. Does. That's how people think still. Thinking about everybody else about Nah me employs. What do we see? If we see the most powerful. He don't wear one or nobody around here. Whereas one nobody bedside, whereas what what? That's my favorite ride with him. And he says we're winning against. The virus is GonNa just appeared there. Is this is. US give just I want you know. We won't live sports. Teams Lords America's teams. They play a Korean baseball. They play soccer, but we want to see it. Don't know how to playing golf. Right to non context. Right in football is the ultimate contact. Sport it how you play, it would've ask. You guys about skip his allred hard enough to breathe with helping his shoulder pads. Can you imagine to play face covered? We gotta have some kind of shield on the you're just you're just GonNa have to and look. Here's my hope. This league the national. Football League is run by extremely smart people. Who are usually ahead of the curve right so surely they have already calculated how to defeat this the best ways possible, and so if the protocols. The rules for every team are so severe. Maybe they have a chance. If everybody lives in Uttar severe caution where we're again, they're they're not going to have a bubble. They go home like you say so. You're going to have risk, but if they go home safely and cautiously maybe. Maybe we can get through an NFL all the players had to do. Wait another two months. Yeah, and out here out and guess what I would have looked. Looked a lot different. Plate that which is going to do is get. Well. That ship sailed time ago. About the okay Kobe I ain't going back is too dangerous for me. Okay, what we won't. If we were to come back and play, I won't need no franchise tag. I will need to build eight nomo designation Oh. contract. All that I want all of that stuff, so you could have gone baseball on foot. As to how they WANNA. Baseball player to take two percent and sixty percent of pro rated salary blessed enough football players would have taken it baseball. Say No, we will get one hundred percent of pro rated salaries based on the amount of game that we play it okay. And out of it that way I mean. We're all out of our league in this one but I know selfishly. We want sports. That will look at us. This is what we do. This is what keeps us going, so we just hope everyone can be healthy in the end and Shannon. If you could get me. One of your designer masks really appreciate that really helped the look. I got yeah if you could share one. I got to. See. This weekend. Nascar returns to Talladega tomorrow. It's xfinity series bracing at five thirty eastern on F S One then Sunday on Fox. Catch the GEICO. Five hundred at three eastern both races are also on the Fox. Sports APP. Could the eagles be a team to bring Colin? Kaepernick, back to the NFL Doug Peterson isn't ruling out the idea saying quote. It's not out of the realm of possibility that could happen and given injury history Shannon. Can you see the eagles signing? But? That seems to be there. Lot of compliments going around now that the climate change you notice that I hear all the economists and twenty, seventeen, eighteen and nineteen. Now that the climate change all we can bring in a guy skipped because remember you weren't really wanting to bring a guy in. That didn't have the skill set of your starting quarterback half the teach him and entirely different offense, and then he going to be on the sidelines. So how soon could he come in and actually? Now all of a sudden. The momentum's swung a cat with right all alone. Oh I can see a situation where he comes in and you know he learned. Until as the cap come April workout. And Talk Football camp the football and he talked, and he gives up on the chalkboard, and he writes stuff down and says okay. This is what I'm saying to you. Tell me the progression. This is what I'm thinking a progression and you tell me the progressive that you that you think I should be going until that happens all this talk in this area we try to be. Signed cap side Cap. We've heard this before. We've seen this song and dance so many times before so for me, I look at last year Knicks. Failed got hurt. They took a forty year out of retirement. Josh mccown Folding Yep. Cat with what do turn by just. Thirty one. We won't have their. Man Catholic bad, if Kathy another couple of years he buy go-to because. The more he stayed away to better. He gets regard, won't him? In Twenty, seventy, eight, hundred, nineteen, here defined play. You look real good look at real appealing right now does. So I will I will say. They were one of the teams that when cap moved the workout from flowery branch down to a south of south Atlanta the Eagle one of the teams that did send a representative down to watching workout but skip. I don't believe it. I believe everybody just saying all the right getting people hopes up high, but I hope cafe around getting this. Because they've done this before. Everybody Oh Pika. Alameda mistake should've. Decided had him in there, but we did. So, are you starting to get the feeling? There was some secret internal memo sent out to every team. Every chance you get say you're interested. In Colin Kaepernick so that we can appease the masses, we can placate all the people who are demanding Justice Demanding Colin. Kaepernick gets a job in the national football league. As he deserved from the start. Right because to your point Pete, Carroll not only says I I messed up. We should assigning when we had the chance, but he said a team called me and said they're very interesting, really which team? I can't tell you that then your friend Anthony Lynn The menu played with now coaching the chargers. He says teams are crazy. If they don't put Colin Kaepernick on the workout list, we're get list I've never heard of a workout lifts. What does that mean you'll? You'll work I. No, he said we're we're set at quarterback. You are really would tyrod Taylor and Justin Herbert, and what okay help me out here so philly? All of a sudden out of the Blue Doug Peterson says it's not out of the realm of possibility that it could happen. You. Bite it I'm probably not, but there are two sides to this coin. Okay, here's the other side to this coin. If you're Carson Wentz right now. What are you thinking? Are you sitting back, saying win, am I ever GonNa get a break because my coach and my gm seem constantly in the quarterback market. When I thought I was pretty good, I thought I closed out the season with a flourish last year. I thought I. RE establish myself as the unquestioned starting quarterback, going forward for the Philadelphia Eagles, and they keep saying not so fat right right? You're their quarterback. They loaded reduce quarterback quarterback factory scale again. Colleges say that you know. Penn state used to be linebacker. You and USC was running back you. Know Lsu say they're Dvu by? You think Florida state. Time. Somebody give it to curl Mardi. Yeah. I get that. Let's give you a factory. You wouldn't NFL team. Your job is not to get quarterbacks ready to go out and play quarterback somewhere else you got karl. Old, Nick, foles. Did. You see what they did when he went outside when you play anywhere else. The rams bit. I don't think he played much in Kansas. We saw Jackson bill that ain't no factory factory You got you had a quarterback. The played well for a stretch of gains. You have a quarterback now that I thought you were the franchise guy, but clearly what I thought what you guys think and what you guys see a something entirely different because getting got excuse me. You Ain't got a quarterback in the second row. And now you're talking about signing another quarterback that his skill set is more like the guy that you took in the second round than the guy who's you took in the first round three years ago very interesting. So So. What was the biggest shock of the NFL? Draft Jalen hurts? Yes, that's what Jalen hurts. You did I told you before the draft Jalen. Hurts is not a running back. He's obviously not. Trade up now they did. Report Jordan Lob. Yeah, but but it's okay. It still sack around whatever you just game hundred and eight hundred dollars the year before. Okay, so I told you we're going into the draft. jalen hurts is a starting quarterback in the national football league, and they loved him, and we've already heard and read. We got packages ready here for Jalen hurry. He's going to get eight ten stamps. He's going to get the Lamar Jackson treatment that Lamar got his rookie year FLACCO was in the game quite a bit until finally, he took the job Oh right. legibly Jalen going to take the job Oh right. Okay so now we're back to by the way they did. Give just now two million dollars to nate subtle. They like him and I looked at his numbers last night. He hasn't played much, but he's been pretty good. He was twenty to twenty, five hundred and fifty six touchdown, no interceptions, he's only twenty six years of age Indiana and they really like him as developmental right quarterback factory quarterback right okay, so now you're three deep and yet number one on the depth chart. His playoff career right now. Carson wentz is one of four for a grand total of three yards because he got concussed early in the Seattle home playoff game which Josh mccown took over and played the rest of the way, and they lost obviously so that's all Carson Wentz has to show. You Love Carson. Wentz I've never been. Completely No, I'm just I'm not bought in. I just don't see enough feel for the game. I'm not sure about him, and I'm definitely not sure about his ability to stay healthy, because it's been one thing after another as you well know. So all the sudden. You start to think well, are, are they? They've really not satisfied with him to the point that they're looking sooner than later to replacing. Okay, if that's their mindset right now, then Colin. Kaepernick does make sense here because if you're not bought completely in two Carson wins. Hey. Listen Calm Capri would be a hit Philadelphia, but still trying to figure out if you didn't think he was good in two twenty seventeen. How To hell you thinking? You've gotten better by not doing what he was told to be doing in three years. How does someone get better by not doing something or three years span? How No it's just what your test is telling. You Peterson and Howie Roseman. Are they convinced that Carson? WENTZ IS IS A. Year, quarterback them because if they're not. Maybe they're showing you. Tim quarterback taking Jalen hurts the second. I'm saying that's what I'm saying, so maybe they're saying. We've position. jalen hurts sooner than later to get a shot to win the job and if that's what you're doing right now, then Colin Kaepernick would make a lot more sense than nate Sud failed would right. Okay so what happened when Michael Vick came to fill it out right and. He took the town by storm. Remember Andy. Reid took the shot and pool remember that. Last year with ask. They add Doug Peterson. Did he consider captain? He gave a pretty short answer. Pretty could weaken everybody. Honestly we could say the everybody we do was best for the eagles. In other words, we not. That's why we ain't got a forty year old that had retired with coaching. That's how much we consider today. We ain't got a forty year old. Guy That was nine years older than CAV's. Now all of a sudden of the. Man I I'm shot. I'm baffled at how many teams are heaping praise will count now when they we couldn't find not one team that with other those flattery words for three straight years that was willing to give him an opportunity that he hadn't gotten the opportunity yet, but it seems like the Boeing term you balling the ideal, maybe bringing him in. To. You got main man I. Don't know that they need to stop with this. either. The man was good enough then. For he wasn't okay. The momentum's should have nothing to do with playing all right this like it shouldn't have affected as a playing bill. You shouldn't say well. We'll. Because he did that. He can't play your just because now will. He was right. He came play. Okay, and I reiterate either Carson Wentz is good enough or he's not correct, Philadelphia Guess. What you got. I've never seen anything like this I've never seen someone. Give a guy that kind of money. And then turn around and get a nuclear. Is Cadillac what Detroit was can't remember? They were taking like. Why receive after awhile received, it took Charles Charles, Rogers rescue soul. It Roy they did it to Calvin Johnson. What the hell of Y'all doing? Either guys, you have a good enough or not. Either Carson Wentz is good. Enough is not so maybe you need to get a new director because he's picking the wrong quarterback and you've gotta take quarterback quarterback quarterback, good point. I'm confused by this. Magic Carson's playing under that knowing everyone in the talk. That's hard for me. It's been hard for wild. Guys Tom Brady though he's counting down the days to week one matchup with the I think I see a smile there from from skips. Friday night smackdown is all new every week on Fox tonight newly crowned intercontinental champion Aj. Style celebrates his win, and we'll find out who is supported will be smackdown tonight eight seven central on Fox. Tom Brady took to instagram to show off some photos of him on the practice field. Looking good even posted a countdown clock to the bucks. Week one opener against the states on Fox. Shannon DEA alike. It love it I hate it. The agley countdown is Atlanta one. Who is a little bit? You pretty that. Battle downscale. Whatever's go get Tom Brady motivated if that's what he wants to do by I'm sure he's not the only guy that does this. I was not one of those guys that circle today like man. I can't wait to get back to the. It was going to happen. Whatever it would so. Hey, that's him. He's been doing. I think over the last couple of years. We've seen him become more active on social media. Posting a lot of his workouts posting some of the things that he would normally do. He was a lot more guarded early, his career and New England and I think this was him. Taking hold says you know what I want to be more free I want to to share more of my life with my fans, my followers and was starting to see him do that scale, so I don't really have a problem with it, but you know saying the countdown to is a year. We buy to get at you saying that I. See where they're like. Yeah, guess what's getting like, Dr. This is I. Don't think we're in Kansas anymore. This is not the AFC east anymore really. Oh! So. It's my turn. I Love Love Love. Because Tom. Brady just took a cliche the countdown clock. He turned it into this. Inspired daily reminder that the clock is ticking down like uh-huh Super Bowl time bomb on game one at New Orleans against your arch rival within the division. Rival. Got Arrival will. It's going to be a new. Orleans. It's GonNa. Be You know at nine Oh that there's going to be the two games of the year. Tampa at New Orleans New Orleans at Tampa book it go and watch it on talks over to okay. You do on that. To do own. To we've already got one hundred. Game Really I'll take it done. How many cases through two cases done? Thank you very much. I needed that. I'm thirsty. So think about what Tom Brady just did. What did he do? He is creating urgency and energy and expectation in frenzy in Tampa Bay unlike any that has been experience there since what two thousand and two the last time they won the super bowl or got to the Super Bowl Tampa Bay has been a an NFL dead zone for low these many years and has turned into mostly. A franchise laughing stock around the League and here comes Tom Brady just as. Covert numbers are spiking in Florida. All Tom Brady be worried about is spiking football's after he scores, touchdowns or Gronk scores touchdowns win, the football season starts. It's like saying pandemic. What pandemic because every day I? Look and he's posting more pictures. He's out there in the hot Tampa Summer Sun. He is grinding he. ESTA you'll right where people post still remember. He's trying to drum up momentum. He wants that bandwagon to roll right through the AFC south and he is one player. I'm I still got him Nancy. It's hard to believe. Tom Brady is in the NFL. Divisions Nobody Division Wins Really Vision Todd. Want like. Division titles no more those okay. The goat is the one player. Who has the guts to just invite all this pressure on his shoulder pads? Because he knows he can back it up at age forty three. He is saying to you I got weapons I didn't have any weapons in New England I got Austin Brainpower Got Bruce Areas or Josh mcdaniels! WHO The ball! We'll send you a bomb, but I don't know if he's Bruce Airy. Bruce, air. quarterback to one big. What happened to Josh mcdaniels when he was the head coach in Denver helped me out. He do to thank you feel. Like Arizona was going to the playoffs every year on the. Way Now Gilbert listening interesting so Tom. Brady is now the happiest he's ever been in his career because he is out from under that tyrod up in Boston tyrant. Now you know what you just mentioned the wizard of Oz Ding. Dong witch is down. You know what happened Tom. Brady just spilled water all over bill belichick and he's melty. Melting Tom Brady has escaped all of a sudden. He's got weapons and he's got him out on the practice field every day in the hot summer Sun. He's sweating. He's grinding and he is building relationships with new teammate. Yeah. I love how you doing that clock is. Did that now coach Belichick with the tyrant now Michael Jordan. He's just trying to get the guys to play, so they could win titled But coach trying to do the same thing. Get those guide them position, so they can win, but he's a tyrant. Usually how you did that because you like Michael Jordan the way he did it. That's what you do. Try to weigh in. Go check. You don't like him. He's a tyrant. In last check. One guy went to what how many this is, we get know. How many Pros Bill Belichick make when he played football. He didn't play football. Eight played Lacrosse at Wesleyan that is that just? Three just to show you. The capabilities of that may realize that you can go and take over four that he didn't even play. Never become the greatest avocado deadly in the. Bill. that. They Coach K., you think okay could become the greatest in NFL. He the greatest manager MLB. Bella DEA crawls guy. He did that because he had the goat at quarterback from day. One in New England took a round quarterback ended. Round indeed. Really Lady what happened to Bill Bill. Checking Cleveland he was there for five years, and he missed the playoffs four out of five times, and then he came to New England. Miss the playoffs again, so that's. Why? Yeah. Interesting, so he was a sub five hundred coach Tom Brady. Was He guy going. Yeah, Ooh, was he got interest worth he got the understand the way to patriots way. So Tom Brady is posting a countdown clock. Saying drew brees Sean Payton. We are coming for you on opening day. We will be there and we're counting down the seconds to that that clash that bow. I'm thinking New Orleans about I. Think about New Orleans by double digits. Give me fourteen right now. No, but that's what's GonNa. Happen would come in here on that Monday. Really need to call and you get me a saints. Do You I've already ordered my Tampa Tom Jersey Tom. Bombay I got it coming, it's. Almost the NFL shop dot com to me a helmet. Really everybody did they play? Happy Okay I actually. It was three months ago. I ordered my Brady Jersey from NFL, dot, com, you guys and I got a note saying we're way out of stock and you're going to have to wait until. I. Like Oh years to get them homeward jury. Jordan going. I think it's top obey. Four years. Did you see those pictures posted of? Those weren't photoshop. That's the best looking forty three year old in the land. That's split away three going on twenty three baby arms. They, didn't. Really. Push. quarterbacks don't really need the you always tell me about. quarterbacks seem the locker room. They're all bad bodies. Okay actually got a pretty good body quarter. We're who told you that I'm just I? Give you right. told me that Giselle told. I'll work finish out of you, you you shame and Tom, Brady you shame. He's shaming me. Have me look at that body. That to look at those pictures you gotTa. Admit it secretly you love. That you, he looks as good in that jury. That uniform knowingly. I do looks better at stopping. He wears it well. He's got that look in his I. Only free he's free finally. The brands number twelve in Tampa Brad Johnson. Twelve ever weather number. Twelve they. took. Cloven between. andbranch. Really! Well Super Bowl here they come, and that man has Mike, Evans and Chris Godwin and. Rob Gronkowski cream Jay Howard. CRAMMER and break that they'd had original cream circles. But I can't get behind the wheel. You realize that's the Super Bowl. Jersey of two thousand and two to being. Really you know what, but he will be I wouldn't have Gina will let them sub leasing because he won't be there for the superbowl, because some other quarterback was. Will that really? Need a Saint Petersburg really. I think he looks really good in that and by the way he chose. Tampa over the chargers because he realized no team. Does I get? No team has ever played in a home super bowl. They've got the Super Bowl in their house. He didn't want to go into division homeboy. I don't want to deal with my homeboy, Belan. Choice. Live on the prairie or live in the lion's den gone on the prairie. He's beating the Mambo two out of three times including the AFC championship game in my homeboys. You done for me lately with Yo plays winter. Your play put our feet barely. Barely daily Yup younger and we want to rematch y'all couldn't even give us a rematch. Because y'all could be get back to seals. Well, it could be the goat versus mom boy in. New Go go new. Go new. Go Baby! Go really the baby. So one super bowls better than six out. You go there you. Back to back jank really yep. That's the same homeboy who, in this past super bowl to an interception late in the third quarter, another one early in the fourth quarter, and got away with a third and fifteen punt pass. We just threw it. He can throw it yoga Irene. Fair caught it. You'll. Hold on your. You'll got. Oh? He led the game winning drive and the. Guy. The guy had three at home. Points this last three? The greatest play run in NFL history that would have been telling me the greatest playoff run against the titans down teen in every game. They're playing flag football. I fly in. There wasn't there because they weren't playing flag. Either Tom Brady and run like that. He had won against my homeboy at Fox. On a Sunday night I was a run. Profile tackles that ran the linebacker ray five combat. That was the single worst exhibition of NFL tackle. Layoff history. Yes, it will bad credit. That was the worst bad ankle reach for flagged sorta tackling. That I've ever seen and I. Think we there it is. Oh Nice. That's nice out could. Drag. Did. Not Nice effort, there is effort little. He's running eight flat forty. And then dragged into the end zone and the second. Somebody tackle I'll try I'll try. I got his flag partic- thirty-five. Though okay, do it miss. Bad Angel Miss Look at that angle missed momentum. Can claim grab this flag? I got his flag, does it? Does that mean? He's down at the one because I pulled his flag off Patrick Boat. Same boat running on the sideline. Really Yeah I they call lightning. Watched, it, and it took nine seconds to run. I'll tell you what thirty all we do know. Tom Brady Tara slowest forty time for quarterback currently in NFL history I will. Ask But His or not quicker in the pocket than the goats feed. You really need to be we. We do. Know? He goes behind the back. That's coming. This year is possible that Patrick Mahomes ways twice as much is Tom Brady now possible. Like six three like forty I think we're going on to sixteen to think he's starting to push. Is easiest. Thing and the arts booking. Good really real real him. Look at trimming ozark shades. Oh, yeah, had a little thing is. Getting Ray told me the. Only thing I know about Ozark. Is I. Love It. I watched. The show. Bateman. Linney, they got it. Wait? Nightmares! Cartel is coming to get me always so good. Brady's Tan in the photo, can we? Can we acknowledge how good he likes to say? Yes. Yes did to. Sates, Outfox I, think we need a countdown clock for our show. Mark Cuban is changed his stance on his players kneeling during the national anthem, saying players who Neil now have his full support, and that he hopes to participate with them and be by law say that players must stand for the anthem, but Cuban said the NBA should give leeway to its players during these changing time, so Shannon how will this play out? scuba can see him doing that Mark Cuban. Steve bomber. They have very unique relationship with the players. It's almost likes debuted themselves as players because they fit so closer there I mean you. You think their fans, not actually owners of a team the way they're behaving in high five and a player than getting so involved and Mark Cuban and I have not always agreed. He and I traded some Bob well. We have some disagreements over twitter many years ago during the Trayvon Martin. Thanks but I think he's had a an awakening. Starting to see things, he starting to empathize with the plight of someone that doesn't look like him, and so I think I've seen a to listen to him. Talk now skip I like what I'm hearing and now you must understand that the bylaws in NBA. is written in their skill. You must stand for the national anthem, so that's GonNa take you know obviously the owners and the players coming to an agreement saying yes, we will allow this to happen. For that to happen, but skip, I can see. I can see as owner like Steve Bomber I can see it only like. Mark Cuban I can absolutely see them neely with their players, because they're having a different type relationship with their players also more so than any other NBA owner that I can call top of my head. Okay, so I've also had many disagreements with one Mark Cuban, and allow me to say before I get to my main point. What Cuban said yesterday was a makeup call for what he said in two thousand seventeen because he took the exact counter. Counter opposite approach, which is probably why you were having some back and forth disagreement because he said back in twenty seventeen. This is America and I'm proud of the people speak out civilly, but he said I'll be standing with my hand over my heart. I think the players will be too. I expect him to be. That's what he said twenty seventeen so now he's gone. Come full circle to I would hopefully I will neal with my players. Okay, this is the huge difference between what has happened in the NBA versus a national football league as you well know all the way back in twenty twelve in the NBA. The Miami Heat led by Lebron and Dwayne Wade. Posed for a picture in hoodies in support of Trayvon Martin Greg gunned down as we know by George. Zimmerman, That was twenty twelve. Colin Kaepernick didn't decide to I. Sit on the bench. Until the third preseason game of two thousand sixteen, the National Football League mentality. He was up against. The! NBA has always been so more enlightened so far more advanced in the NFL. You played in the NFL. Mindset how it grinds on you how you're just a cog in the system correct in the NBA, the players always been more partners with owners correct the stage. The platform has always belonged more to the players then to the Jerry Jones because he felt this is. This is my stages will not allow you to do further your caused by on my platform right so in in the NBA, they were always free to speak yes, and there wasn't any compulsion to kneel, because they didn't really need denial. Call was kneeling out of desperation and twenty cigarettes in four years after the Trayvon Martin Hoodie picks right right wrist. Okay, so it's so different. For the NBA players to the point, if they want to Neil I, am so with them to kneel, but it's very possible that they'll say we don't really need to do that like we've been effectively kneeling for years and years we've been. We've had the ability to make our points very strongly Lebron has been the most outspoken and. Just effective abolition sport. You remember when that was right around twenty twenty, twelve with remember C. P.. Three, D. Way Carmelo Lebron were on stage, and may read that powerful thing is as the espy's. Yeah, no, in the NBA, their owners and players. They've always been forward thinking. They was all we're hearing. You know what we ain't got to keep you the box, be you? But I think they have a lot to do skill with bill. Russell in the summit and the thing, so those guys and you would think the NFL would be like that because Jim. Brown was part of that, but. Not so much. Okay, maybe the maybe the time change so do you. Do you want or do you need? NBA players to to break the rule in Neil? In Orlando well like I said Scrub, and unless they changed the by logger says. In this bubble we're going. Allow you to do it, but for me. Skip because of what they're doing, and that's the way remember we talked about this. Do you think they know as they? Because the the NBA has always allowed the freedom to voice opinions, two boys concerns about things they see in their community so I, would they? I think the NBA will lacks the rules especially, because this is a special circumstance and situation. Yes, I do believe all. Allow them to do it. And I believe the plans we'll do it, but if they didn't know I wouldn't be upset. Because the NBA been really good with its players on social issues, they have been and by the way in the end Mark Cuban yesterday defense to Commissioner Silver Michelle Roberts head of the. NBA Players Association like. I I don't know we can. Because it is a bylaw right right now, you would have to waive the by law. It would have to be officially stamped as it's okay, and you notice you, they work. Everything were lot step embarrassing. Okay this what we're trying to do. They send their paperwork Michelle Roberts LV hers. Staff is not like the NFL NFL. Okay y'all can go back to the facility, not in the. NFL PA we're going to do that. No, that's not how they work. You see why because they don't have any respect. We're GONNA. Do what we want to do and felt what we do. You're right. That's why the players in the NBA and owner in the NBA debuted them more of a partner, whereas the NFL view, themselves were partner with the networks. They do better owners to network. So we do I think NBA players are gonNA wear t shirts. Yet shirts patches on. Yes, I would surprise their black lives matter. Absolutely so but kneeling, it's. If. That's what they WANNA do. That's great ride. The wave the by law, but in the end they're. They're almost like beyond kneeling. They have been effectively kneeling for a decade, right. After being suspended five times by the NFL Josh Gordon is hoping the League will give him one more chance to play. Football Morton has submitted a letter asking to be reinstated and according to his lawyer. Gordon was suspended because he relapsed after the death of his brother in November so Shannon. Near opinion. Should he be reinstated? Yes I believe he should, but calling no. You don't believe that what you just read so I'm GonNa. Let you fill in that a little bit later. I believe he should I think the thing is now because the NFL with the new CBA and the way they look at marijuana skip. Marijuana does not have the same stigmatism that it had many many years ago. There stays that you allowed to buy it in small samples now, so it's not frowned upon now we know Josh Josh Gordon has these teams, and there are certain triggers that can cause these themes to come out now as Asian said he was dealing with the passing of his brother, and we understand that what we don't excludable. We can understand that that's that's very trump's. You know a very tough situation to find yourself opinion that all the sudden. And tragic passing of your brother, and it triggers something in and he he. He fell up, but I just hope Josh can just. Get get some resemblance of his life back because at the end of the day. He's only gonNA play football if he were to get reinstated only a couple more years I like to thank Josh Gordon have way more years of an adult life as a human being. Then he's ever going to spend in the NFL and I just hope he can get that aspect resolve, and so he could live in Nice fruitful productive life as a normal citizen, regardless of football, but I'm afraid skept was going to happen when football is taken away from. And then he's going to. Josh really needs to get this. Because at some point, times get. People are not gonNA. Keep making excuses for judge. We've made excuse excuse excuse, and although this tragic passing of his brother is sad, is tragic. People are not gonNA. Keep making excuses for why you keep finding yourself in this situation. Hopefully, pray pray purely visited the last time. He finds himself in a similar predicament. Shannon what has happened to Josh Gordon. Football wasn't taken away from him. Nothing great. He's been given. Twenty second chances. If you look at his history. Of drug issues. It's so staggering that to me. I've been around Josh I. Like Him a lot. He has so much potential as as a man and a player. Unrealized potential. That, I I always root for him to a fault. because. At some point, you have to just say no to Josh Gordon. And in quit enabling him. To be recaptured by his demons, you just keep saying okay. You're okay we'll. We'll bring you back and we'll bring you back and we'll bring you back I. Want you to think about what this still young man has gone through. In many interviews that he's given. He, said his drug issues started in middle school. In that! WAS ZANEX Codeine Oxycontin. I'm not talking about smoking a little pot. We're getting. into some hard drug areas okay, and he got expelled from middle school twice then he goes to high school in. It's one issue after another with drugs to where he finally gets expelled again then he gets busted arrested. For credit card fraud and abuse. In. He was on probation in the state of Texas when he was being recruited by everybody because. From. A PHENOMENAL TALENT! And he had to choose a school within the State of Texas because his probation limited him to to operating only in the state of Texas, so he goes to Baylor and what happened nothing good happen. It was one drug suspension after another. Some of it was just pot related then. He actually got busted as he's talked about at Baylor for selling pot. Okay, and then they finally just kick him out as much talent as he displayed art. Browse just said that's enough. You're gone and he signs with Utah and he goes to Utah and he said A. Recent interview that's where he discovered cocaine started using cocaine failed a drug test at Utah and never played a down in Salt Lake City. Okay, and then he goes in the supplemental draft. To the Cleveland Browns, and what's that goes to twenty one? And he just keeps flunking drug tests so now. He's been suspended seven times in the national football league after a while. As much as I I like the young man as much as I root form, say what Wendy finally say. That's just not we'll skip. Drug test before you actually get suspended, so he failed more drug to yeah. Then he's been suspended. Because at first they put you the program second. They take game checks then they actually spend you, so you have to have free tests actually before you get suspended. Scale, the thing is that I think. What our former colleagues! Pc Chris Carter and say Josh. You need to get help. And he lashed out, wrote. This lengthy I don't have a problem. He was denying it skipped and I guess they. Embarrassed because here's a guy that had an opportunity for generational will give. That's the term that you hear a lot of generational with this. Dude had who he was Julio Jones before Julio he was. That's what he could have been. Out. With people realize how good Josh Gordon was, but he throwing away. There is like six three three to thirty. Four you see way. He's built. People like gentlemen invoke a little, but yet gourmet. You won't. Expensive seventy eighty million dollars who give that up if you would give up eighty million dollars, what we'd you buy food? Unless, you just got such problems that you've never had to address exactly because like you said get we do keep in, keep enabling. Yeah, they bring him back you. He got kicked out of Baylor and Utah. Say a huge chain day. NO DROVE OUT HERE IN, Utah We? We'll dry stakes killed, so we good here somehow. As applied to man. He founded, and he has these issues that he I don't know Josh really sat down and come to grips with habits get. This is an ongoing problem. He's never going to be liberty in which he doesn't have to be these demons because Dr by the bar. You can drive by your home. What how fifty thousand dance, but is that fifty thousand I? Agree. that it gets his hooks in you and bring real all the hard work the five years the ten years that you've been dry that you've been sober. All of a sudden comes crashing down I just. Skip I. Just hope he can just get get this resolved, so he can have a normal life. Yeah, that's what I really won't most. I believe this is a disease. that he has fought his entire life from middle school on and never defeated, because nobody ever forced him to come to complete grips with Cherban disease, Yup, but it can be treated. It can be, and that's the thing okay in the treatment process. Do you because? You look at cancer. You have to change the way you eat. You have to change the way you do things. Yeah, so you get this disease? Okay, we can't. We can't cure it, but we can treat it, but you're going to have to train certain behaviors to make sure your. Yeah, you ensure yourself that you're not at risk or use you minimize the risk that you're yeah. Man Just, just for the record it's been five summers ago during one of his suspensions that. Josh lived out here in Los. Angeles in West Hollywood with Johnny Manziel for a whole summer in an apartment. They shared Ryan. Trust me. I heard all the stories, and they weren't just smoking pot for the record Da. This goes way deeper than just that that pot you know lead to other things. I. Hope we can just get it. Is Sad, but we've seen far too many of these stories skip it. We've seen. That great players athletes don't matter what I mean. It doesn't have to be scared. We've seen entertainers. We've seen you know. Musicians and artists band his hands in your man, ooh! ooh, York and You just got to be day by day BRA. Okay, so if you give him a twentieth chance second chance you know what's going to happen. It'll happen again. I'm not I'm not confident he's going to. Do the right thing, even though now the new the new CBS says you can get away with a lot more smoking by right. Okay? I, just wish him the best rod just hope he gets his life in order to skip out football. It's about is about life after football because what Josh and he's early Thirties. I our show. We've always, but we want him to be happy and well, and that is what we have to think about that. Is it for in disputed? Teams everyone. undisputed.

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2K Decade Teams, Dak/Andrew Luck, AB & Team USA Troubles

Real_Sports: A Snapchat Sports Pod

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2K Decade Teams, Dak/Andrew Luck, AB & Team USA Troubles

"What's up real words fan. Welcome to episode twenty of the real underscore sports podcasts a snapchat sports pod on this episode. We are talking n._f._l. N._f._l. andrew lock injury doctor now big contract a._b. What is going on and then. We're turning our heads to the n._b._a. Team u._s._a.'s dropping out the n._b._a. A schedule was released and we're talking n._b._a. Two ks decade teams anymore so let's get it got. A football game offers football game. Yeah prius words graham. I'm your host jack. Settlement from real underscored sports on snapchat a one million followings page with me as always is my longtime best friend abe ran off abe we are counting down the days till our charity basketball tournament. Were ready to bring home the ring you say in hydrated this week i mean not unfortunately unfortunately i came from little networking event where i was drinking and having eaten tonight because i get this pod recorded but i will be carving and drinking up <hes> later tonight. We got a ring to take home this weekend. Yeah it's all crying. Maybe we'll try and get a little <hes>. Instagram live during the games of our some footage outage yeah so it's gonna be kind of up to your brother's little fiance. He has to record as our team that team mom team. Supporter means supporter to handle those activities are our main content creator but we will be <hes> hopefully getting content for the real sports fan have to they need to see this <hes>. There's russell westbrook addio. 'cause i'm interested to see myself. I think my lights <unk> clips <hes> but we need like a full game of action. Listen if i'm not mistaken last year's championship did not live streamed on facebook okay row hypothetically just under the lights if and when we make the championship i can link to the <hes> championship game there. We go. That'd be good stuff all right so now. Let's start with <hes>. Let's talk andrew luck because i'm a big andrew lock fan. Although i think your boy nick foles is leading the jags a division entitle andrew luck once again dealing with a nagging injury. <hes> reportedly was a foot. Maybe an ankle now. It's leaning towards high ankle the time of year his status for walks time to year. Yes status for week. One is in question. What were your what are your thoughts and then i i also think this affects fantasy little not definitely affects fantasy like in terms of the weapons around him like t._y. Marlin mac you're roy mac guy but without andrew luck everything changes but this is just classic perfect andrew luck timing like a little bit of a lagging injury and then it comes out two weeks later that it's a little bit more serious and now there's some playing time in jeopardy like history repeats itself every time literally every time finally and this is the crazy part. He comes back from multiple surgeries in them. Finally last year he pretty much plays a whole season he rounds in the form and they win like seven or eight straight great to make the playoffs. It's just a shame. We haven't seen him on the field. He was the greatest prospect since peyton. I was talking to a friend tonight at the event is going from about trevor lawrence. I think t- law is the next great quarterback in line. I mean him until like it. Flip a coin yeah but to me n._f._l. Wise i think trevor lines is a legit hall of famer like from day one and they played played less than one caesar. You not a lot. I never been higher on a player my life i- genuine difference between being high on someone and declaring them a hall of famer before they play twelve games of competitive. That's how high animal in trevor lawrence. I literally think you i think he is a bigger and better prospect than luck. I think he's peyton manning territory is in draft in one and then just see what happens. I mean listen. Don't get me wrong. I think trevor trevor lawrence is going to be good but a hall of famer. Let's are wrong with that. I i will actually back that up. I think he's going to be that level level. Speaking speaking of hall of famers antonio brown appears on hard knocks tuesday night they they they kind of gave us what we wanted not really they gave us. We didn't know they didn't words there <unk>. I needed them filming him painting the helmet just like back again. They'll never they'll never catch you with this. One the only your words i think the the helmet events actually happened to close to who like i would imagine that they have the majority of hard knocks filmed maybe two days because they have to cut at it and promote it so i think probably ali happen to maybe next week. We add even more but they did give us the feet. They gave us a close ups. It does not look good and the one thing that i kind of pulled from it was that it sounds like it's not something you can just stick painkiller on. It's not something that like they really have a solution for. It's just gonna come down to time and by the <unk> he's training. I am reacting to it. It doesn't seem like he staying off his feet and being smartest about it now <hes> but i wanna talk about what hard knocks something. Unharmed talks related but antonio brown related. I've got a problem with a._b. Right now so like he goes into this whole fiasco how this dates back to before he got traded oakland. How football like be happy doing other things all right. That's fine and then he gets traded oakland. All the stuff happens with the helmet and and then he threatens to retire over it and he was going to have this arbitration with this independent third party to determine the ruling on his helmet and if it can be recertified or not and the arbitrator ultimately decided against his helmet and that he couldn't wear and then ten minutes on instagram saying he can't wait to return with his teammates mate's like if you're gonna say you're gonna retire retire dude bro if i wanted him to talk to walk the walk. You know what i mean yeah eh <unk> when eat each passing week where he loses a hundred grand or two undergrad. It gets tough no matter how much wealth you have. I can't even imagine he's just all talk but i will say the one. I was shocked at how open transparent end seemingly normal. He seemed when he was talking to. The hard knocks camera like he was very open with what happened you showing his feet. I felt like they would really hunker down your bully. Josh jacobs jacobs your rookie of the year pick. He actually tweeted out today. If you haven't seen me on hard knocks is because i'm avoiding the cameras. If there's anyone to avoid the cameras you have to imagine imagine it would have been a b. He was front santer josh jacobs. I get why he wants to avoid the cameras. Because obviously you can get framed as a certain way but in in this day and age with social media like your personal brand has taken a major hit by not being on hard knocks. I was kinda surprised by him bro a._b. Would never try to avoid these cameras on part. That's true like he wants to eat this up like the hot air balloon that whole thing like if he's there. He's gonna let you always. Is there like i guarantee you. Next week will be eighty percent <hes> a._b._a. <unk> like this episode like gruden's really coming into a great hollywood hollywood actor like he was he in the stall with another speech. We might have to get him back on because i gotta hear that one more time but like he he's a character man. Dan early says after every sentence literally every sentence the thing with with gruden is that this is the thing with hard knocks it highlights the teams it highlights the personalities so everyone always enjoys the show because h._b._o.'s fucking credible what they're doing but i still i think gruden's like a weirdo. He's like little guber. He's like he's trying. Too hard is but i think you going being at like trying to put on a football guy. Mentality like late nineties football when he was coming up just like you change like give it up as you as you would say relaxed yeah come on another another person who might not not not what if you agree with me. Another person who might need to relax is n._f._c. east quarterback and division winner dak prescott who do not relax get your money who apparently violated league policy by taking drugs before walking into team offices in asking for forty million dollars the year i mean he's the cream of the crop of the game managers but holy crap is he requesting a lot and i stand with dak prescott. We'll get you ready. Go rob what's up. I know you want him to get all the money so it ruins the cowboys and he's locked in for five years aw no no that's not eating arm biasedly like outside of it just being standard procedure negotiating tactics like what why does does he think he's gonna get forty million dollars. I mean the n._f._l. We've like every time a new contract comes up. It's always going to be the next biggest warmer ormoc the match the match staffers of the world and the matt ryan who like were set getting paid so much money like they're moving further and further down the list now so people don't bring up author contracts but like that's just how it's been for years. It's always gonna be the next man up. That's why when carson got his extension and i said to you it was important that they did it now because if they didn't do it when they the roles will be flipped. Dak probably got paid first and then carson would have wanted more money <hes> obviously i think jack has more leverage than carson does in terms because he's never missed a start art but it's just the nature of the game like howie. Roseman got done with carson when he needed to do it and now jerry jones having problems with that but the forty million is just i that's crazy but i think you have to look. I think it's not being reported is like the minor details of it. You don't know how much of this is guaranteed money a. and realistically that's all that matters. Carson got the most guaranteed money in n._f._l. History and before that who was garoppolo or someone he got it and like back next week but maybe dax annual that annual <hes> per year value is higher but is less guaranteed money because they're not sure if he can be that much of a franchise quarterback or not. There's one tested out so yeah. He's asking for forty million and as an eagles fan. I hope he gets every cent of it but i think it's a little screwed. What's being reported out there because what matters in the end is just the guaranteed money but what the conversation's nations been is like who should be. I stack <hes> zeke. Amari how much should be paid or like is he. A franchise quarterback kenny win the super. Who should he be paid like a superstar quarterback. I think we need to answer the question how much money should dak prescott be paid per. Year is obviously basically we both agree. Forty is way out of the realm. No matter how bonuses are aligned because let's assume like let's take it all together. He should be paid. Did he probably should be paid in my opinion twenty five million dollars a year so i was gonna say twenty five to thirty that range yes so i think thirty thirty s probably where they'll settle because it's the cowboys and jerry jones and they wanna lock their guy and he does have that levered. There's no doubt he can get thirty million from like i mean the dolphins or the lions when stafford steals donner the bengals when dalton scott like there's no doubt he can get the thirty mil but his appropriate <unk> pay where i would actually feel comfortable for his skill level. I think is twenty five. It's not the elite which is thirty five to forty. It's not even the great great or superstar of thirty. I think twenty five though he is the cream of the crop of those game managers he can win you football games. No i agree but the thing is is the numbers are different when zeke is on the field and he's also someone that they're negotiating west so it's like you wanna get one but you don't wanna get one without getting the other. The internet's been undefeated as usual this past week. I've been seeing memes of like dak zeke and amari cooper head on like people in a room with like a hundred million dollars just like the three of them in a room. Here's one hundred million dollars figure it out. It almost like <unk> actually is a smart guy. It almost make a lotta sense for him to take. Maybe a lesser amount because the marketing money you're gonna make just being the face of the dallas. Cowboys is astronaut michael so like because of those off the off the or below average numbers without zeke. Maybe you sacrifice a few million dollars and and and see that's the thing that what you're saying right. Now is like the main difference between the n._f._l. And the n._b._a. in the n._b._a. Players are willing to take pay cuts because in the end it really is a players oriented league where in the n._f._l. It's way more of an owner oriented league where they're seeing way more of the money with this heart salary cap and everything so players to make a statement to the owners and the n._f._l. In the league in general they don't take pay cuts so they try and get their their values values worth especially when you see what can happen post career to these guys like they wanna get every cent they can because they know they're putting their buys at risk whereas the n._b._a. N._b._a. the players feel that they have a lot of power so they're more willing to take pay cuts for other players to come play on their team also not a hard salary cap the n._b._a. But what what what players in the n._b._a. Are taking real pay-cuts like you just think about the little anthony davis wave destroyed kicker and that inevitably probably would have helped them get collided but it helped free up money for other free agents like little things like that. Yeah i guess technically but i mean it just made me thought of like brady right like brady didn't kyri didn't carry and katie takes a little bit less so that they could get the andre jordan. I think they took like a couple. The regardless of what i'm talking about yeah i guess in theory is flipping the switch a little. I don't know if you've actually seen this because it literally literally might have just happened or just kinda came out. Do you see what happened with the team u._s._a. Feeble squad scrimmage today. I didn't see what happened to the scrimmage rich but i did see the projected starting lineup and that's really all i needed to say yes so here's the deal everyone's dropping out because they wanna focus on that. Macy's is in the n._b._a. Seasons of uncertain long that their bodies are just taking a toll and then now with all the player appearances autograph signings marketing like emmy employers are involved in so many different things and just playing for your country apparently is taking a back seat especially for fiba. I'm not i think olympics. They'll probably be there so the squad is in great but ended. The day was list yeah but we still have the best team in the tournament. We're still heavy favorites by gambling blink odds but <hes> would just came out. Was that a scrappy squad of players featuring some who played in fiba world cup qualifying for team u._s._a. Zeh but a really like you know she league not very not off very good players <hes> jeff van gundy as coach. It was a ten minute scrimmage <unk>. We don't need to look too much into it but they beat the team yosef. E squad thirty six seventeen in ten minutes so they beat them by almost almost twenty points and this was the squad justin anderson he went to u._v._a. Reflects her chris <unk> florida scotty hopson decline jeffries john john jenkins <unk> tra- som- randall he was a stanford boy travis trice travel somewhere off yet chasing <unk>. Whatever that is there's zero m._b._a. Really benched players on that squad. Let alone starters and they just blew out out a team of what's burs be competing for a gold medal the summer so is that is a re concerned with this not concerned at all like that i want. I bet you that team that g. League team could compete in the actual olympics because that's just how good and dominate the u._s. Basketball but let's talk about what the the u._s. is putting out their relatives of what they have to wait around. I feel like we're we're skipping over that very quick. You're buying no stock in the in fact they lost by twenty points to a bunch of scrub not when it comes to the rest of and how it affects them going into the tournament you can get i don't know i think that it's gotta be concerning like the line about poster. My snap story today is i mean big. Men are p._j. Tucker in brook lopez's us that there's there's definitely better players in the world at the foreign five than those two yeah but in terms of depth or isn't another team like the u._s. us <hes> they won't have any trouble. I don't think is it's kemba. Kemba back out now on plays the most important when it comes was international play. We've seen over. The years and kemba is going to be far beyond bribery. The best player in the tournament isn't he but <hes> the pressure yeah. I'm not sure if he might have dropped out but i saw a quote like he would give up his m._v._p. Trophies getting gold so you would say that that's for the camera but now this is the difference though like tina say these guys they've lost interest because they've been so dominant international apply but it it used to be a major major major honour to play for your country potentially bring home hardware. I'm not i'm not screen. What is an m._v._p. Trophy mean to like theoretically outside for marketing purposes. It's an individual warm winning gold for your country. I actually by the i believe ah i mean maybe for greece because they would never win but like exactly i don't know. I just think that he's just same for the camera like it's it's a legacy thing in the n._b._a. Sir campbell is not necessarily projected star. Darren fox has has been the star so far in training camp so it's between him fox spider the true rookie of the year from a couple years ago he will be at shooting guard and chris middleton at small four dan. It's kind of like a mishmash of tate on jalen brown. Brook lopez like this squad is not anything anything. That's gonna be like starting five compete for a playoff spot in the west. I don't think so kemba walker donovan mitchell chris middleton jason tatum tatum brook lopez. I thought you just said the fox well a guy that that was the other projected starting lineup <unk> ox human yet but the vox. I don't think so fox spider christmas mpg tucker brook lopez yeah. It probably makes the playoffs but it's you do know how good the fox's yes. I know how good the air fox's but but you're you're talking like him in cambodia like a crazy disparity. I think your your mobile down this road. I'm being serious jack jack jack kemp. Who's a first team all n._b._a. Player when this year what do you mean he was not first team. All india google it kemba walker. Yes kemba walker was that first team all n._b._a. First of all n._b._a. Off the top of my head is staff <hes> jaanus hardin and a a big man. I would assume get it yeah. Kemba kemba is nowhere near all right. We gotta look look this up all m._b._a. What what made you think because because he was alcohol wait for all right. Yeah okay never mind okay so i'm gonna walker was a third team team guard all right here. This is where i was coming from edward the whole if he got on all n._b._a. Team he would be eligible for the supermax. I was under the impression. It was a couple months ago. So gimme a break milwaukee summer that it was for the first team he made that looking back and thinking that's pretty stupid <hes> but yeah he'd be urging regardless. You're comparing. Let's get back to the root of the auto before we get into it. Which i'm fine with <hes> i do notice that even dumber than that whole situation is that kevin durant leonard both didn't make the first team yokich was the fifth spot <unk> paul george in yoga so <hes> yes the to me the disparities i didn't. I just admitted that i was wrong. Okay and people do that in life like it's important thing to do is important trait to have understand understand where you're wrong. Now your term. You just said that. There's not that big of a disparity. There's not kemba walker and yaron fought. There's i'm not saying dying that i'm not saying come is not better but i think this year this third year <unk> league there will not be a crazy difference in in the two <hes> for all right so you think that darren fox's a chance to be an all n._b._a. Player this year yeah. I think that's why i like. Pardon me i mean i think in term. You think you'll get wrote. He'll get votes <hes>. I seem in third team boats this year though the only the issue is that cameras in boston and damn fox they got literally a singular national televised game so they won't make the playoffs so it's talking. Let me read you some of the names. Let me read you some names. That got left off the list. This year that were just burner thirteen but you asked about votes like bradley beal got no exactly carlisle gotta vote. He did get a vote or two who have fox or lower. It's it's not a matter of who would i rather have obviously i'd rather fox few forward because he's younger neural editing kyle lowry right now you will think darren fox's better than kyle lowry is right now. No i think i don't even allow that good but he was a championship. Boycott fox's the next x coming of magic johnson because you you obviously watched. You watched fox play this year. He was spectacular and he will be related. But the key word is will i cannot cannot i cannot take that comment. Though of kyle lowry a championship point guard that he was on a championship team. If you're putting on fox in that situation i could easily argued that they still win. The ship lowry played some great games with fox news better than lowry this year. I don't think you can like larry came up again. The plows he was huge in game six for them thinking opened up like the first eight points of the game <hes> one of those games he did. I forget which one but like. I get in your high on the air on fox in that's cool. You're living in the moment. That's fun but it's his second year in the n._b._a. He hadn't he did this year. They were they were very very much in it and then they concentrated some pieces they were never making the playoffs jack no they are making taking it but the seventeen seven and four only three turnovers a game shooting and go from that to getting all n._b._a. Votes next year. Can you just you just say yourself. Kyle lowry outta vote and he said next season. Damn fox could be a lower level so yes easily. You could see that i don't now i know upsetting. I would take the going forward because he's younger so i'm not saying that we're adequately next year. Who would you rather have <unk> as your point guard our okay. I completed without a doubt. I completely <unk>. Remember this conversation that you think that the aaron fox will get all n._b._a. Votes what's next year. Yes next topic. I posted on my snap story. <hes> the all decade teams and i so let me just read off the teams real quick. The eighties was magic stockton jordan within bird and who is that who's the fifth do not the picture. I can't determine case picture. Isn't that good. Do you know that is the picture we do. No i i just i can't even our might be karl malone. No i don't know who it is anyway anyway anyway. <hes> the nineties squad was jordan pip been a keen that there's karl malone. Oh is that stockton again. It was mikhail in the eighties to thousands was koby dunkin a shack lebron and the most recent twenty intense steph dwight katie lebron and harden so the biggest outrage after i posted was about dwight howard being on the scout i'll get to that. I was pretty defendant of him. Being on the team and then someone kinda pointed out that he was he got traded lincoln year towards the his good years where towards the end of the two thousands thousands yet. I think the only argument from being there is that <hes> it looks like they wanted the have a center on the team on each squad and i would say obviously we're getting away from the traditional centers but even within the decade you probably probably is still the most dominant center i i don't know i mean you wanna throw anthony davidson. That conversation is i mean. Technically is a power our ford and yet eighty to me hasn't done enough. He eighty es may one playoffs or two in his career <hes> he's. He's a frigging birkin incredible player but <hes> do i was i mean she was three and fourteen in two thousand ten so that's the first year of the decade ended. <music> ended s when the injury story averaged he went down every or twenty and then seventeen he played less games and then he got traded to the lakers. Now is kind of just the start of the downfall from there that was early down all but like he was still pretty good. He just was still putting up decent numbers but he wasn't dwight howard yeah yeah. He wasn't dwight howard so that is definitely an argument for for the four squads to me. My pick was the two thousand so you get shock <unk>. Who's just a a dominant player in ball time you get lebron is the second fireball time you get kobe. Who's the second a score of all time you've dunkin. Who's the best power forward of all time and you get a. I get you constant buckets. The only the only bad part is you don't have jordan on their team. Okay so i'm gonna go with the twenty tents and i think i think you're and i'm sure the real words. <unk> will appreciate that pick 'cause. That's the those their favorite players but i i just don't see it all right well. I'll explain so maybe you will see it. Steph curry the greatest shooter of all time one of the one of the top two or three point guards of all time james harden one of the best scores of all time kevin durant may be the best scorer of all time lebron james and let it be noted that you have lebron james in the two thousands i haven't been the two thousand ten and beyond when he won every single one of his championship ranks so i have prime lebron adnan to white howard who whether or not you agree with he was still very good in the early two thousand so to me. I see the best three point shooter of all time one of the best scores of all time maybe the best score of all time the best player of all time and dwight howard and i'm looking at it as shack is gonna have ninety eight points per game. He's this going on do i. I think that's disrespectful and and especially in this plan it's just the game a._m. To today's. I don't think you're shooting that. I don't think you're three point percentages net great yeah i would agree with that. I think the matchup of staffing is hilarious. No one's playing defense point shooters kobe bryant who wasn't that reliable of a three point shooter throughout his career. Yeah i would agree with that but then you yeah now that i've talked myself into it. It's no doubt the twenty times now 'cause the owner's flippers defensively were playing the best. Were the best defensive team in this match up like kobe's you know he's way better defender than harding miles better. Don't get is not miles better than durant other. Durant's developed into a great defender. <hes> shock is a better defender and <unk> while you have prime lebron to thousands lebron was a true defender. Defender twenty tonnes lebron. Was i mean he was a highlight defender leaped defender miami but i think that's what's funny about. This conversation. Conversation is that we're totally overlooking. Eighties nineties are heaven ninety nine hundred ninety s or cuties for sure they wouldn't do anything but the eighties eighties like you have magic michael larry bird yet. You've actually the three players who made the n._b._a. What it is today along <hes> but i i just think the two thousand squad <unk> for whatever reason i'm hi i'm super high on shack and then you get koby lebron on the whatever reason you're high on shack you can't you can't you're out one reason why your hi- on shaquille o'neal numb i think more because he's the most dominant at the position compared dared to compare it to the floor obviously but to me it's a no brainer all right so we'll good offense beats good defense and i think i my team as the best offense. We'll touch on a real quick but <hes> as as i get instagram d._m. From someone the rails words fem jake jake. Can i please have the uncle drew background. A name is jack. Thank you <hes> real quick note to k also released a classic six squads as they're naming them six squads so some fun teams thirteen fourteen clippers chris paul b._g. Lob city essentially de'andre <hes> the only nine two thousand ten blazers lamarcus aldridge brandon roy everyone if you're too young to remember roy. I'm sorry the host of seven kevin gilbert arenas antoine jamison crown butler squad oto three stefan marberry shawn marion and the fifteen sixteen calves kyri lebron. Just just real quick wit squatter. Would you be most excited to play with. I think that they just botched this on. I mean i think the i think the best team on here is fifteen one out thirteen fourteen spurs. I tim duncan parkridge no yeah no. I think the fifteen sixteen calves this is the best team on here and the spurs pry right there but like you're gonna give me the oh two. Oh three sons with stefan marberry but you won't give me the o. three o. Four with steve national russian the second second seven seconds or less so the one that team is one team. I'd wanna play one thing i liked about this released from two k. was outside of the cairo. Lebron and the duncan coed team the top four didn't win a championship and it just seemed like a more fun retro squad that like everyone they were like fan favorite for teams right like a re like agent zero brandon roy lob city to do that rowing like some some t. mac natkin yeah that that would have been a great addition. I'm trying to think of other ones. I would be most excited to play with <hes> probably sleepy three because obviously my favorite player and lob cities fund although i do struggle to figure out the alley of function into <unk> year it'll be it'll be fun when we get some in game is a final thing n._b._a. Schedule <unk> we might have to go live stream on a to k gave me all the time and then we're going to move to verse the royals words sports fans who who can who can win n._b._a. Schedule was released. <hes> some marquis games open the season. You've got some lakers. <hes> not lakers gobert start but it's pelicans raptors noted not lakers game yeah lakers. Clippers is the second game of the doubleheader. Some some other notable ones the night after your sixers open at home against kemba walker in his third team all n._b._a. Status <hes> the knicks. Let's go to the nets for game. Two christmas day is out. I mean anything that you're i think and i think you might agree with me the thing i'm i'm most excited to the most the thing i'm most excited for. Is there like revenge games or the return games like cairo. Back in boston is going to be naughty. Even chris stops when it comes to the knicks will be gone jimmy in sixers. I'm curious to see what quiet reception is when he goes back to toronto. You don't actually think he's getting it. Do you know but that's what i am curious kind of see what happens and then i'm. I'm not standing ovation. I think it's a lock <hes>. I think that i watched the raptors fans cheer when kevin durant torricelli so i'm kind upon the air on them. It's a front they're putting out there sweetheart <hes> and then obviously the battle of l. a. I think is going to be awesome. I'm going to trying to because the ravens play the rams in l. a. on a monday night right before thanksgiving. I'm going to try and go out early and see pelicans clippers in staples apples. Are you like it. They gave i on the pelicans like something like twenty national t._v. Games i think i think he's going to be fun on but halfway through the season. I don't know if like the appeal still going to be there. Maybe well i don't know i think that teams fun general lawn. Those fund drew holiday holiday ingram josh harley dave they have team yeah but like i mean obviously i'm most excited for the battle of l. A. <hes> sixers victor should handle business might wanna move on tonight too just like another game <hes> but like i'm most excited throughout the season as a by a sixers fan as the sixers sixers bucks matchup 'cause. I think we're both in agreement. That were there the two front runners for the eastern conference in just to get a preview of that when we think we're going to get it for seven games is really exciting other other games. I'm excited for like maybe not as much as rockets thunder the return of ross but like that's not exciting because it should be a blowout. Yes we a blowout end but you know it's interesting. What kind of reception will chris paul back in houston yeah. It's a really good question. I don't think it'll be great. There's also a chance. I guess they're not trading before the season but there's got no. I don't think there's did i think he might be a mixture yeah. I think there will definitely be mixed reaction because lucky was the team that could have dethroned the healthy warriors. It just just didn't ball and yet. He decided to stay out in that outing. It wasn't there. I think that i mean one of the games james <unk> out the boxer playing the hornets in paris. That's kind of cool. You honest is like the international star. I i'm excited for kyrie's returned learn to boston. I think it's gonna be actually borderline repulsive. I think he's gonna get some the coldest reception of all time and then obviously a d. back nuance. I don't think it'll be levels. Near the cairo gots now that i think not i think i think he'll take it the hardest i offer share but i think poisoning might get it pretty bad in new york too he will he definitely will <hes> speaking of porzingis us all on lifting weights. He's he doesn't play the games still in the spurs dude. I mean that's only one season obviously towards a._c._l. <hes> yeah but now it's actually been almost two <unk> like almost two four years. It was like it was like twenty games into this yeah. It was a mess over one hundred fifty games a regular people out yeah. That's that's the scary thing him pless luca. Luca could actually be nuts like he's legitimate seven what seventy seven after after seven foot it really doesn't matter to me with literal guard skills great shooting ability catch and shoot ability an unbelievable rim-protector he he can defend out in space on the perimeter and moves feet like there really isn't much kristaps can do i kind of wanted exam except my feet up in his home country shrouds of that and some of us that we won't talk about but i was kinda hoping that dallas got the free agent this summer just to see what they could do. Like kristaps will be good from night one insured. They'll play yeah theoretic yeah. I didn't think too by the way out that it would be to- bias before it would be jimmy. I thought that dallas would be an interesting landing spot for tobias but they estate put they brought in south carolina. Now they had seth <unk> narrow. The death has played for them him in the past down. That's what i was gonna. Say lucan chris opposite fire combination. The only issue is they're supporting cast not even like bent supporting uncast like the other three possessions pretty brutal and the language barrier. I real sports fan. Thank you for listening to episode twenty <hes> the rayon episode mark. I think he's twenty one now. Marquel faults episode trying to think n._f._l. Twenties ed reed episode the greatest safety time brian episode. The brian dawkins episode. We appreciate as you guys listening. <hes> stay tuned for more podcasts. You're up every monday and thursday. Thank you real sports. Fan have a good weekend <music>.

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"This show is presented by Hulu. If you didn't know who has last bortz watch live games and all your favorite teams with Hulu. No cable required. Live TV plan required. Restrictions apply. Jalen and Jacoby on CNN. Where he because if we ever do, y'all. Pop the strong. This week. Is Jalen Anthony rose. What up DOE? I'm David Jacoby. Cool. Centerstage on though, my with putting it on wax. It's the news. Jones kobe. What do we do? We got to people. They. Long. It's been a long time. We shouldn't have left you out a dope pod to step to. We were preempted on television. I had to go to England to work with Katie Nolan always lay with Katie Nolan Michigan. We check out that very special episode. I went to Liverpool via been Liverpool. Jalen rose. No, I've hurt my liver swimming in the pool. Okay. My libbers been through a lot. I saw you. International beers. Yeah. Everybody wants beer there. I'm not a beer guy. I'm Tito's soda splash a grapefruit that's my go-to soda sponsored through what I do. But they I asked for Tito sodas flash grapefruit there. They didn't know what Tito's was and then they gave me actual grapefruit. Like, they think I thought I meant like splash grapefruit in that. I was like, you know, what else do beers does here. They'd love beers there. They do beers early to they do beers at like eleven in the morning that ain't early that's early. That's are you ever heard of something called a Bloody Mary you ever heard of something caught him a Mosa course, those take place usually before eleven AM. I like adult beverages not early in the morning not. Well, you got a day job. I've got a job there's that. But the children every time we take our kids to this one particular restaurant at noon on Saturday after swim class. I won't tell the people where it is. But I always try to get my wife to drink. It's he never does. One day. We're going to do I never do it. I want to make sure that we get our voicemails nine eight five eight zero Jalen, ladies, we need. Tomorrow is. Women crush Wednesday where we celebrate females in our lives and around the world is superior gender. We have a very special female coming in later as a special guest on the program to discuss some of the latest in the National Football League. We're going to break, then we have a special segment about the tournaments as we haven't discussed the term assist. The elite eight Michigan still in Iraq. What happened was? Okay. Okay. It's a shame. What happened to flip? It is a shame. I also want to talk to you about a certain Michigander. Former wolverine Tom Brady visa goat grays quarterback there. Live join Twitter yesterday on April Fools and did a retirement joke. That's just corny even you have to admit that he's the goal, but the tweet was corny. It was good. I'm glad you today. Some because sometimes you come back you back up your wolverines wolverine together. Here's what I won't do. And this is how earn credibility in this business. I will flat out laughing. Nobody. Know, I can't sugarcoat dead in any way shape. You're giving me nothing to work with. So I don't really Brock with April Fools jokes on April. Fools. I always kind of got I've always got my head on the swivel overrated. But like. You you can't be obvious with the Tom over every single person on the planet was like, oh, Tom retired. You know what I mean? Come on. Tom was idea was that April Fools is overrated period, in my opinion? It's never really really been done. Right. I like what they did in high noon. Will you know what I mean? But it's never really really really been done. Right. What I'm not a big prank sky. Neither. They're funny and everything but like. Very special story to start the show today. Mr. rose, not only is it unfounded, irresponsible speculation about free aging, kyri Irving. It is also. Unfound? About free agent. Kevin durant? However, Mr. rose this comes from an extremely reliable source. You guys Phoenix freely. Greenlee reliable source. Our guy our colleague, our friend. Brian win horse went on the hoop collective podcast and had this to say about these two gentlemen's relationship. Let's listen to windy, Katie and Kyrie Cairo, by the way. I heard I had somebody reputable this week tell me that that relationship is as strong as ever that Durant in kyri talk every day or if not talk text every day. Jalen, do you? And I are very close. We don't talk text every day, but we worked together siege. Other every day all the time. But this is interesting to me now again like we do joke about as being unfounded, irresponsible speculation. But this is from Brian this is happening. And also, this means something to me like if you're texting everyday with someone on another team, and you're both gonna be free agents. Am I just doing the media guy thing and being like, oh, they're definitely gonna play together next? You're you're not doing this an indication you're not doing a media got theme because we've say over and over on this program, and I've felt like it's going to be a Fe if both of those. Guys lead the current destinations. I think they're going to play together. And if that happens, I think is going to be in New York City. So if you're talking every day, you're going to talk about all things happening. The last time much both of those guys are free agents this off season. So they get a chance and rightfully so to control their own destiny. And they're going to do that. Do you think these two players will play on the same team next year? I do. Yes. Really for the New York knickebocker. So here's the thing. I don't want to be the person that says all things aren't great where they are in h estate because if I was those guys vows, Cari, whatever I gotta do to stand Boston make you weren't. And if I was K D, whatever's happening in Golden State, Landon metoo finals MVP's, maybe. Heavy ships. Maybe but I've said into this microphone reasons why if they wanted to leave they should leave like when you talk about building a team now today's NBA people don't even mention Katie talk about who the best player in the game. He really medicate. It's interesting to me that that has changed. You remember to finals ago when it was him against LeBron head to head? That's we're having the conversation who was the best player, Katie LeBron kind of disappeared. Best point guards in the game. We're not even talking about kyri if he p conversation, none of those guys get neither one of those guys get Mitch. So from a team dynamic, I think the Celtics they're young players and their assets in their chance dish year to continue to grow. Their roster would seem like that's going to be the flourish in wave. But I think both of these guys want to prove that they can lead which is something that people have question and both of these guys based on your reporting with Wendy are spinning talking a lot together because that may be the case next season. So here's a question for. You people always talk about this. Well, Katie would leave the warriors because he wants to have his own team because people looking at Steph Curry's team in kyri wants to have his own team. If they team up on the same team, isn't that somewhat against the purpose? That's not against a purpose purpose. Here's what. It wasn't orchestrated. So we're K D joined the warriors. They were already a well oiled machine at one and championship. So he wanted to eliminate something in his life that people were going to hold against him. As a great player is that. Yeah. You got four scoring championships. Yeah. You made to the conference finals. But then in an N y'all lost in the finals. You ain't got no rings are on Normandy. I know I'm I'm eliminate. I'm gonna go who won't go state. And then he showed that he wasn't just ride near coattails. Now, he's carrying because he put in work kyri didn't control where he got traded it just so happy. He got traded to a better situation. Newly that does not happen. They fleeced the Cleveland Cavs to the point where they can't acquire. Anthony Davis right now for that. Exact same reason about that. And so four kyri he's like well turnkey leader, the Boston, Celtics. I really know if this what I wanna do. And you seem both of those guys sending front of the media could they were miserable. You remember right after the all? Ms picture together in Miami reading the all star break, and they both kind of had the same narrative to the media. Let's focus on basketball. I don't you blank. Let's they kind of both left this all-star break in a mealy win the microphones and start complaining about the way to get covered. Correct. And so now, what ends up happening is. Where can we find happiness? Let's not worry about wins and losses because as long as we're there that's going to take care of yourself working. We have fun working. We enjoy the game. Again, both of these guys. I see guys just like my seeing playing at the garden easily see him plan at the rook wouldn't surprise you. Another thing is because we always talk about the median when the championships in the narratives, and this and that, but from an actual basketball standpoint, I love this partnership from on-court Xs knows the actual basketball. This is I think that there's a better tandem than kyri. And LeBron I think it's a better Canaan than Stephan. Katie all. Do that. Oh, LeBron was the boss has sodas kyri. You cannot say it. Kevin Durant and Steph curry wouldn't be better than he and Kyrie because Steph does it need to dominate ball. That's probably fair. He does more catch Shimla went too, far the second one. All right now, we like I said you. Harry's combing coming. Oh what else? I heard was that, you know, and John start working it out in the big three. I. Next your former team one of them. You have a lot of those ten Indiana Pacers NAT tile, and those Boston Celtics that we are discussing chop locked up in a head-to-head battle for homecourt advantage in a series against each other. When you look at the Eastern Conference standings, it's pretty clear to number three is right here. You know, it's pretty clear who number six is right there. But that four and five is a really interesting bow the tide right now. Jalen rose, they both won last night. Why do we still not consider the Pacers a threat in the playoffs? First off when you start talking about coaching of the coaches of the year, Nate McMillan musket mentioned with Boone holder and some other people that are doing mazing jobs Malone on Denver. The reason why is you don't normally see a team get better in the playoffs without their best player. There are fifty win team without an all star. You normally don't see that. Take place. So therefore when you look at like their stats or like what they've been able to do with or without him on the floor. The distinction says, wow, they're really good on paper. And it's also taking a look at what they're doing defensively. They're number one in the NBA with opponent points per game. And number three in defensive efficiency. Like, these are good numbers for them. But at the bottom two and seven in the last nine games. It's not exactly how you want to end up going into the playoffs. Well, here's the thing. Like during the regular season. It's almost like being a student. Your grade point average is a reflection of your effort showing up every day showing up on getting extra credit doing all of the dirty work your test taking is like the playoffs. That's your skill. And without their best player. It would seem like all of a sudden can bogdonovich cancer bone is canned collison miles Turner who they gave a big deal. Wesley Matthews Ken these guys lift themselves and get a couple of those guys to play it in all. All star level because I seen this collection of Celtics without Kyrie Irving performing a playoff, but the Pacers gonna play hard and this idea that is going to be easy. But the Celtics it won't be at all very quickly on this one. There's a sneaky huge game tonight in the western counts. I'm have to stay up late for this. When you know, I don't like to do that. The warriors host the nuggets any warriors are now one game ahead of the nugget from the number one seed, the nuggets could tie it up. This would be a huge homecourt advantage for them. If they end up pulling that up so the warriors have fluctuated in their effort this year in the regular season. They seem to be looking places. Sometimes are we gonna see the playoff warriors. We can see the third quarter warriors we've seen the best of the warriors tonight as they host the not gonna continue to beat a person as says when the warriors dropped twenty four gains. We not going to give them all they were just complacent. They lost. Okay. And the Denver Nuggets while being a young group led by Yokich Murray have Paul Millsap who's a vet and Barton, and so many guys they've been able Montaigne Morris as play really well for them. This is their first time playing together in the playoffs. It's going to be a learning curve. So the more comfort you get more confident you'll be so if they could get home court advantage if they can dust the warriors won they plan. Now, all of a sudden it makes you feel a little better stick. Chess out a little more regardless of the opponent because that mental edge that the warriors have on Denver. They have on the rest of the lead. They want three in the last four championship. Yes. They did. 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What did he say to you take them out fifteen minutes just to get to that line? Because most of the conversation he was having out. There was about how absolutely Shuki was about finding out. He was getting traded. I still think we're talking twenty one twenty two date twenty two days later, he still having a hard time wrapping his head around the fact that he is no longer in New York with the Cleveland Browns and life is completely different. Even though there were so many rumors about the trade. I don't think he ever really thought. It was going to go down. Yes. We know. Jarvis Landry was wishing it and posting about it a year ago, but in terms of it actually happening, and here's the thing with the trade as we know get a say, and we know what Dell. Likes. He likes the son. He likes LA. He didn't get ass where he wants to go of all the teams that you want to go to. Yes, we can argue all day that Cleveland has tons of potential Cleveland is a tough city to sell to someone like Odell Beckham junior who we know could probably do pretty well with that Rams offense. That's why somebody that has been traded a few times you sell winning. And they are seeming to have a terrific off season a winning on paper. So now since you were there in the building what does it seems like their expectations are for their season issue. Well, here's the one part about the tree that I was actually feeling for Odell. When I landed in Cleveland, there was about six inches of snow on the ground is that I don't know if he even realized what he's about to step into. But in terms of just the chemistry already. So the Browns thought was look this isn't about individual this is about team in the message starts today when you have a superstar like Odell Beckham junior. He we know he can overtake room. He can overtake. An organization. They presented him outbound. Sage with move Myles Garrett with Baker Mayfield with Jarvis Landry. Which by the way, you know, you're talking about your two number one overall picks the last few seasons all up there. You have a lot of talent up there. And I think they're just trying to drive home that it's about us and Freddie kitchens for sheer head coach luck. He's got his hands full. But he was saying all the right things yesterday talking about the fact that he's got a hold his guys accountable, and he will not and I thought this was probably one of the most outstanding lines. He used I will not let them media draw a sand or draw a line in the sand between me and my players, and he emphasized that. Because I think he knows like he's got his hands full with Jarvis. And and with Odell in the Baker took all the questions about you know, there's only one ball in Cleveland that's gonna go around. And he got these two great receivers. We're going to want it. He goes, look, here's my hope. I was gonna throw this thing up there, close my eyes and hope one of them comes down with it. So. All the guys in terms of excitement is look oh deli still taking this all in. I think you still also grieving, you know, we with losing, you know, nip. But I think and I did speak to him about that actually. So he was on my flight on the way home which. Oh, I don't fly. Commercials. A scoop on Jalen into this is what was no. So I got on the plane and Odell is actually sitting in first class when I got there. And you know, he he give each other the nod of like just give me my space four. Four. We're cool. I'm not asking if he could sit in the window. Nothing. I said first class I was in the back. So I go in the back, and I see him get up, and he just grabbed his stuff anyway, all the back, and I kinda peaked, and I assumed he was doing what I expected, which is he was just sleeping. He just wanna lay across without bothering. Although tar government bend, the knees. So short. But he's good. Yeah. So I don't know if I did the right thing. But I waited for him when he got off and we walked to the baggage claim together. And I was like, you know, how you doing? I'm exhausted. Actually, I'm just I'm drained emotional. He's today was weird. This is just a weird experience. I don't know how to describe it other than I can't believe this really happened on the one thing you notice that he went to Cleveland for work, but he came back to New York to to. So I did ask. Look, this is probably the last time. I see you in Newark airport. You know, New Jersey isn't your home anymore, man. He's like now, I'm going to New York for sheep. Back here. So because that was my thought too. I was like, look, maybe maybe he's got someone special Hugh that he's came back to see who knows you know. He's got tons of business ventures as we now. But in terms of what I think we can expect I think once he gets adjusted once he gets a custom and can really wrap his emotions around that life is going to be different in Cleveland. And obviously he's been talking to guys like LeBron about him. I think who wanted love and LeBron was you know, he talked to him about it. Lebron kind of sold them on Cleveland everything. And then Odell mentioned that he asked to stay in LeBron's mansion in Akron. Lebron shut it down quick and said it was his house was too big. That's a thing though. There are houses are to the second. First of all you have to furnish a house, that's large. I mean, I'm not sure if LeBron was willing to keep that house. Furnished for Odell, but you have to deal with cleaning. There's a lot of responsibility with the big house the maintenance David Jacoby. Tim bedroom? Stay for a couple of nights though. No, you're young. You're an elite urine, you're prime my wife and kids stay here and go to school from here. Thirty five thousand square feet, you ain't about to be up in my career party. It reeks of thanks. But no, thanks. You can afford your own. Friends voting friends that you had that you go down to Miami with you guys can get your own nice little place in and help the economy Cleveland Byron, Scott. He did leave the New York Giants and go to clean them browse and one things that football fans people that really pay attention to sport, look it. Oh, wow. What an amazing town receiver. If only he had a quarterback that wasn't align. Manning throwing him the ball. Well, this a little bit of news about Eli manning. The New York Giants saying that now they would not hesitate to extend ally. Manning, what is happening Diane ever seen by ally. Manny recently, also just was ask at a vet. He was at who is the best athlete you've ever been around and he said hotel Beckham junior. So even he will. Kelly's the best player he's ever played with. But Dave Gettleman, Pat, Shurmur alone with his ownership is going to stand on this hill. And they're gonna kick and scream and say that they have a plan that they are going to build this team. Whether or not they believe you lie is the future. Not as it seems right now with does seem like they may believe he is. But if we were to sift through a lot of the talk, I think, I do not believe that they are going to extend you like I think that they're going to give him one more year. I think they're going to draft a quarterback. And then the figure where they're gonna go from there. I think they're just playing it safe with that. I understand why that got out there. But I think this safety net is just keep Eli here until we find the guy and what about the thought process of taking the locker room bag Bodell such a magnetic personality. He's a generational type talent, you take saquon really high in the draft you want championships? Why does it seem like that's the? Direction that they're trying just take the locker room back before they rebuild what they're trying to get accomplished. Absolutely. And you spend one minute around saquon Barkley, and you are overcome with just the leadership with maturity professionalism. And I think now coming to his sophomore season. I think it's tough to be leaders rookie. I know he wanted to do that. He said he wanted to do that. But I think now that he's got that one year under his belt Odell out. I think this now becomes saquon Barkley team that is nothing but good news for the New York Giants because I do believe not only does he know how to lead, by example. But he's got the respect of the guys around him that they're going to listen to him. Because look this is a time where the New York Giants to go back to being the giants that we know because you know, you talk to young NFL fans, and they don't know what we're talking about point. When we say how great of an organization they are. I mean. Yeah. Maybe because of Dell's there, and that's fun. But what else can they do? I think now this time that the giants to get back on track. Well, it's now time for news. The man. Huge controversy over the weekend. Omari Hardwick of Jalen favourite show was at the end of Lacey pe- image awards, and this is what happened got picture with Jay z went over to say Hello to beyond say single kiss double kiss, Diana. What do you think of this controversy that is sweeping the internet? There's so many characters in this video that you have to think about let's just start with the victim here. Her name's beyond. First of all when you go in for a hug, it's three seconds. Max max and going in for the double kiss. I mean, he was trying to get a little bit of dessert before he left. He got the one. Course meal. You got your little appetizer. Now, get out the fact that Jay was looking away because he trusted that this person this actor in Hollywood would be respectful to his stunningly beautiful accomplished wife and just give her a simple hug, but instead he got all phantom on her. But I think he thought he was in Europe or he just forgot he was re but all accounts, my Harvard is just a sweetheart, and it's just like such as lovable guy. Everyone's been telling us, you know, how nice isn't it was doesn't really mean anything? But Jalen, there's something about the proximity of where the second kiss landed. Others. Let. Well, a couple of things one. We gotta definitely get him on this show to explain it. Because I said the first time he looked like Amari the second kiss. He looked like gold. He he just he just forgot about everything that was going on in life. He he was real into whiskey at all at that moment. But what I want to ask you if somebody that works in a male dominated industry, how do you deal with that dynamic because I'm pretty sure when you're at sporting events, and then locker rooms and around teams, you get bombarded with this level of behavior. No, nobody's coming up in HOGAN kissing me. Hi, five thanks so much. Maybe picture. You know, the pictures like my cousin that's at the on the sideline. So no, I don't I don't really do that sometimes players that I've covered for years. They're offered by and they'll give me just kind of like like a like a half hug like space. There's got to be a lot of space between but in normal everyday life. I'm a hunger Italian of touchy three seconds max. Thanks. We're going to do a first ball. You know, what I'm used to those all no, no. Oh. Jalen rose determine is now down to the final four, but not everything regarding the tournament is worth discussing. So we have a segment called keep moving. We know Becky. If you wanna talk about the topic, you say hit the brakes, if you don't meet you and method man jump in the minivan and keep them moving. Are you ready? Mr. Rolex, get it. Zion. Williamson is now free to become a New York Knickerbocker. Keep moving or hit the brakes. Did you say Zion? Diane it the brakes. Of course, we're gonna hit the brakes on his I it was the topic by now, you know, that Duke lost to Michigan state all that hype. All those expectations all came crashing down against the mighty Spartans. Jalen rose. What do you think the legacy of this team will be in as we look back at them? Well, a few things collegiate freshman at a year ACC player of the year ACC conference tournament player of the year. The two freshman the both average over twenty. It has never happened before him in RJ beer. Watch somebody shoo- explo- live. Was there? Okay. There was a level of intrigue to if would he come back by some I felt like he would. And then how he played once he returned it continued to boost his stock and his confidence to the point where we're going to pick up a newspaper here soon, and he won't be getting a hundred million dollar shoe contract. So here's a question is we look back at your Michigan fab five as a collective as a group. Even though you had Chris Webber who is a consensus number one pick. Do you think we will look back at this team as zion's team the team at Zion played on or the collective of Zion and RJ Cam and others auditing Zion plays on lie as a collection. It won't be at thirty for thirty. And then for them. No. We're not going to get that. We're not going to get that one. He didn't get their own shoe. They didn't become a cultural phenomenon. People weren't cutting their heads bald. But there will be a lot of kids names. I on like, they would Jalen what do you think? Zion will be in the NBA. I. Think he's going to be an effort player in energy player and explosive player somebody that can give you lockdown defense say like of a Ben Wallace. But yet hopefully grows into the kind of player where he can moonlight as a guy that can make good passes like Draymond green. And so his game will evolve in a level in aero position lists basketball. You know, I'll talk a lot about skill bigs versus will big he has a chance to fall through the category of both. You can't tell me he can't do guys like Stephen Adams clink appello, you're on Trez Herrell. He can do what they do. Julius Randle is having a terrific season this year. So he's going to be productive. And it all is about fit and who they put alongside beside. I also think when you look at this Duke teams tournament run they kind of squeaked by a couple of teams before they lost Michigan state like UCF in Virginia Tech like they were dominating the tournament until they ran into Michigan state. So I think that's an. Interesting thing to look at in terms of how they finished games and also RJ Barry, always who should go. First argued will maybe our parents a better prospect seemed like that's been quiet a little bit. And he certainly didn't help his stock with the way that he managed this game against Michigan state. Well, he had an amazing freshman season. It just it late in ballgames. They looked to him to be the sole playmaker. I was surprised on each of the big plays. Zion was on the left wing at the three point line when that's not necessarily his strength Cam reddish. Oh, there is. That's the only time I seen him. And. And obviously trae Jones, I think she come back because he went from being like a player that could go in the low twenty two maybe in the second round now to improve them shoot for improve this shooting a get a little more coaching from the their staff. So that I think will be something that you can look forward to happen in the future though, the team had high expectations. It looked like they were gonna make a very deep Termine run was Kazakova and Josh Perkins said that the bonehead play he made will haunt him forever. Keep them moving or hit the brakes. Ball hair plays. Do haunt you forever. But we're gonna keep them. Moving pile on the young move in. We keep him. The Michigan wolverines hit the brakes. They couldn't score. Oh, no. They couldn't score the basketball. Say how lost I think we'll talk about Glen Rice scores shown points. What about Lowy ball? They have two field goals in the first ten minutes. What happened? What happened? What about Romeo Robinson? What happened in this game against Texas Tech? Michigan is one of the best teams under coach be line. Doing a couple of things that didn't happen in that game. One protecting the basketball suet making open shots in three slowing down other teams prime offensive weapon. Those three things weren't happening. And as a young player when you're not making shots, historically, like the university has been there since two eighteen hundreds. Okay. And when you haven't scored when when you scored a few points in the first half and overall that means they continue throughout the game. And you can't get rhythm. When you can't make shots. What was your experience? Like watching this game. Because it wasn't close. This wasn't a nail biter. Well, you know, what my experience to tell the people. Okay. It started initially with the better made chips and popcorn mix at the house. And then absolutely. And then I wanted to make the personal popcorn on the stove. No, he like to do that drama butter. Little seasoning, a little salt and pepper. Hot saki. No question about it. What time did you give up on the wolverines? I didn't give Jalen I ain't give them a whole game thought they were gonna come back. Now, I'm an long, I'm a donor. I'm a former player, I do not give up on Moscow. I Don I give up. Real quick Zion Williamson's famously blown out she was estimated to be worth a quarter million dollars moving or hit the brakes. All I know is he going to get a huge shoe contract. And that's going to be a big reason. Why for now we keep it moving? Mickey pay most coach Cal. Agreed to a life time deal. A lifetime deal with Kentucky keeping moving hit the brakes. Lifetime lifetime deal hit the brakes. So he has now signed up to be the Wildcats coach for as long as he wants to coat and then after he retires. They will still compensate him to be an ambassador of the program. I mean, this is we've seen a couple of lifetime deals before. But this is really interesting. Do you think that it will play out this way? Like always say, we never get in life. What we deserve young people. Let me say that for you again. Sometimes we start the mope it feel sorry for sells it feel like somebody did us wrong. We got disrespected and business in a professional since we never get what we deserve. You only get what you have the leverage to negotiate and when UCLA is on the other phone, and they're like, well, we'll give you six years and forty eight million. He gets off the phone with them in his agent. Get on the phone with Kentucky and say, you know, call we just had right? And so now they have to up to any. That's just how the game works when you wanted to best and you're proven congratulations to coach Cal will never forget what he did for the university master's program moving on. There's a hostage situation at this year's NCAA tournament keeping moving or hit the brakes hostage. I'll explain say. It's a brain. There are commemorative rugs in the locker rooms of the players in the NCAA tournament, and you see from Jordan Bohannon, the players have got these rugs hit Jordan tweets, give us the ability to make money off our own name. And we'll give you your rug back. You have twenty four hours NCAA. This is funny. But it's also it's hilarious. But it's also kind of real what do you think about the rug hostage situation? All I know I played in the final four, Minneapolis. And there was a folding chair the ended up in my apartment. All really. Oh, no doubt. Oh, you should have seen me when I went to the White House. No, I was taking everything with the logo on it. I'm going to the bathroom at hand towels sticking everything with the logo on jn. You didn't feel like they were making money off your lighting? No, not at all. So imagine if you felt like that. You'd be taking everything you can where's the polling chair? Now. I don't know. You know what? Nah, I think. Yeah. I don't know. No idea. No. I'd never did a great job of keeping antiques because I didn't get a chance to win at all. I wanted to purvey. That's what I want. We'll get you a parade. We'll get you. What is up? Jalen rose, new ship academies got championship coming to it. The parade there. I like what you did there. We lost a rapper by the name of nipsy hustle. He was gunned down in Los Angeles. Why is this particular entertainer loss of their life? So tragic well because like I consider him at old soul. Like if you look back at interviews that he did before he was quote, unquote famous. He have level of maturity responsibility focus and discipline yet still garnered the respect of offsides corporate America to athletes to entertain us to his peers, and he have bars to ours. And so like when you lose somebody. That's so very young. It has so much to give to society and has done it. He was in a neighborhood that not only meant so much to him. But he just started a business there and twenty four hours basically after it was announced that he was killed. He was going to meet with the loss. Angeles. Police officials to talk to them about what it took to help curb gang violence in the community with rotten nation. So it just it just like this senseless violence just has to stop, and we continue to have this happen, unfortunately. But I hope this now becomes the one moment where we say it's time to stop talking about it and actually make sure that these types of scenarios do not take place anymore in our community. He did so much for his community, and he was involved education us involvement so much risk Mutiti. That's why we respect so much our condolences go out to friends and family of nipsy hustle. Jalen rose. Lebron James is shutting it down for the rest of the season. We will not see the king play basketball anymore. Luke, Walton said that they had to convince LeBron James to shut it down. Do you think they've really had to convince him to shut it? Now, not they had to convince them. It just became a reality of the situation. We have a handful of games remaining. You did a great job of showing that you did recover enough from your groin injury to still be productive which was when he got back into the lineup. So now that we understand that you're going to be healthy going forward. Lonzo ball is implant. We're going to the lottery clearly it is time for him to end the season. I mean, I know you don't like resting healthy players. But to me, this is just the obvious right decision. Do you agree with that? It's the logical decision not necessarily the right decision. Nobody felt like we'd be at this point with LeBron James. To the point where we would question whether they be in the playoffs. Let alone so far out of the playoffs. And it don't matter whether he plays or not so because of that storm and him going into a seventeen seventeen season. It's logical even fans would say like kinda makes sense for him not to play. If we want to see them next year when you look at the Lakers, you know, their ability to win games with them and out LeBron James, there's a drastic difference there. I mean, they're not going to be winning very many games the rest of the season. But we do have some information about LeBron James if some are plans, you gotta remember he usually plays like another two months. So he's got a lot of free time. And what's he doing with that free time? He's not going to play with team USA in the World Cup. He is going to film Space Jam to. He said he's going to have a court Bill onset. So he can still train while it's building Space Jam to what do you think about LeBron James filming Space Jam to he went in that game alive? And I remember when M J was shooting his space. Jim. I actually went up there to the court and play before really. Uh-huh. Got I went would you want Howard? As a matter of fact, and what ends up happening when you're an athlete. People assume that you got to be consumed by basketball at twenty four seven three sixty five you're not focused almost like the mic and rocky, you know, but you're actually human being he has a lot of interest. And LeBron Jay could still get his work in. I have a lot of fog questions. Mr. rose, did you pay for your own flights where you're playing five of five was invite only how did it work when you went to the Space Jam set to play against my door to pay off lights because I always had a spot in LA as you know, how does for twenty years. I was not participating in five on five. Just gotta play on the court. It was invite only because Michael Jordan was there is he is he is much of a jerk. As people say he is when he knows basketball. No, I got a chance to play against him. So many times in the league. And while we were teams are opposing teams, you know, the pace is having a chance to play against them in the playoffs. And then having a chance to play against him as a member of the bulls when he played against his former team, which is clearly emotional for him as well. So I had a terrific amount of respect for him as a competitor on the floor. And that's why consider him to go hands down. You're gonna play against the Brown. Space Jam sue not gum able to. Very quickly. We have some more unfounded. No errors. Speculation about free agent, kyri Irving, and there's an update. Oh, that's Devon Bondi of the new York Daily News says that he hears that kyri might be considering the nets over the Knicks your thoughts, Mr. rose, you see I knew what you were going to say. Of course, he missed the game when it came to play against the nets. He's from the east coast which puts both teams play basketball wise one team has solidified itself Shaam marks general manager. Don, a great job head coach Akerson done a terrific job. He and his coaching staff. You're going to see on the bottom of the ticker. We'll begin extensions and new contracts soon they have to mex- spots available. They had a couple of young players elevate themselves cares. The Vert before he got injured was on off Star Trek. And then all of a sudden de ngelo Russell actually bought enough to become an all-star, they resigned Dinwiddie. They have Alan the big fella down low. So if you have a team that you're picking solely for basketball reasons, it would seem like they're further along than the Knicks as it relates to possibly winning. But when you add hiree, you lose some of those parts, so it's better than it. It really you're only as good as your your weakest link. And so you would still have to build the situation around kyri? It's gonna be fascinating to see what he decides. Well, ladies, we need you to call nine eight five eight zero Jalen tomorrow is Wednesday. We'll be taking exclusively female voicemails. We're also looking for international callers. So whether you are an American on foreign soil or someone from foreign soil in America makes you call ninety five eight zero Jalen and leave us voicemails. We love our international listeners right now, we're taking all callers like this one hit it, reg. Hey on them. What's up gay? And then what's up to Kobe did his Anne from Iran international caller, shutout rage shout out. So I have a question for you guys me, and my ex wife be sick rated about a year and a half ago and sh be having a little daughter. She's about. Six months seven months old now, and I used to keep going there and visiting her twice the B. And now, my ex wife doesn't let me anymore. She says the you are not a good father. And you don't these there to visit her every and I've done everything. I can I've given her every penny I half and I've worked hard to give them money for some poor. I don't know what to do. So what's your opinion? What should I do? Thanks mayor. Thank you for the call. Appreciate the love Ali Lee. I'll take this. Please do. As the. Single father on the show. I have lovely biological daughters by. That grew up in the Atlanta area. One is a freshman at Georgia. Maine national. Honor Society person most. My youngest is the beast of the southeast in volleyball. They're both doing amazing. When you're not with the person that you had kids with and I'm going to put pets in this category as well. Because people love their pets the way, I love my kids. You got to be patient and they're going to be times when a relationship is turbulent. You're not getting the communication you want from the mom, you're not getting the communication you want. Sometimes from the individuals involved. You might think when you go and you finally get a chance to spend time with the dog that the dope not giving you the love dessert. But you still have to be patient, and you have to understand that. When a separation happens, it creates a space, and when their space, it creates a great area that allows people to operate that sometimes isn't in concert the way, it would be when everyone lives under the same roof, and are living in harmony, that's just how it goes. So I want you to continue to be patient be disciplined on the days when you feel like you're not getting a communication, you want still send everything that you promise, you set you would send still be available at the time that you hope to be available. And I think your situation will eventually turn around because karma has away at work in itself. Well, put Mr. rose Ali in Iran. Wishing you the best. Reg, let's do not pay to be. This is tash Sydney. Australia I need help with solving a boss move all soft move debate. So when you're waiting for a flight, and they announced that it's boating and everybody gets up same time and minds up and only and everyone's writing the line for ages two to both actual plane. Is it a buffer soft move to wait for everybody to board the plane and then come up loss and got on the plane lost? Yeah. Would really appreciate your opinion on this. Thanks. I just this is a great question. I have fluctuated on this strategy many times stealing rose. I know that you fly often there's a couple of things that I need to address here with this. First of all love international, collars, Australia, specially, okay, Tesche. Two things that come into play here. I like to be the last person on the plane. Two reasons one if I'm flying coach, which Jalen, I know, no, you know, nothing about or I don't have a gigantic carry on because the only thing because I liked to be than the plan because you spend you spend the least amount of time sitting there on the runway. However, there is nothing worse than trying to get on the plane. And then telling you that there's no more space in the overhead bins, and you have to check your bag that is the worst. That's the war. I just look them in the face. I know they're not I know there's no space but was looking right in the face. It's just I just feel like my dog died when they tell me that then they put that little tag on it. And you don't know if it's really going to get onto the plane that is bad, but if you're carrying just like a purse out, and you're in coach I want to be the less now. Jalen, why would you wanna be first on the plane if you're in business or first so it's a couple of dynamics here play when I travel, so if you're flying in first class, I figure all of the things that I will be doing in the airport. I could be doing in my first class. T like ordering beverages. Eh getting them free on the plane. The reason why I don't like to get on the plane last sometimes I do it. But I don't necessarily prefer that it just because you scan your ticket with your phone, and you walk down on the tarmacs terminal or whatever so still be a long line of people trying to get you turn the corner the way I think it's called you turn the corner, and you just waiting online there. That's a good point. Exactly. That's a good point gain an advantage. I might as well already be on the plane to beverages in while they're still clearing the line that you talked about with my back in the overhead and not having to worry about anything. I think you're right. I think I think all things considered you probably want to be on the plane as early as possible. Thanks so much for the call. Thank you. I leave for the cause we love our international callers ladies called nine eight five eight zero Jalen leave us voicemails for tomorrow. We're taking all female voicemails tomorrow because we gotta show tomorrow. John. Me and my little guys I love peaking at a hobbits. Let's talk about LeBron James all care about my nipples seriously.

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The Sedano Show (HR 2)

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

36:25 min | 1 year ago

The Sedano Show (HR 2)

"Sudan show e._s._p._n. L._a. kirk morrison hanging out today. We're at the passaic here resort hotel and spa spa yeah yeah huntington beach <hes> very relaxed five here today it is it is practically laying down as we do the show today join us join us a nice breeze though breeze. He's got to be careful though sons out guns out. You know what i'm saying like you. <hes> you know you're gonna we get i'd see you. I see you as biceps coming out arm day to day off on friday as well yeah so so anyway but it is a beautiful well day out here easy to get sunburned to if you're not careful <hes> but <hes> but nice <hes> this day though the suns will more chill is not so not so hot hat and nestle wild but anyway we were talking about the warriors and draymond extension and we got into the conversation about lebron's window and the clippers i window coverings windows only two years right now because those dude you're only locked in as far as i know for two years now they could be there for longer. Perhaps but we know it's a two year window right right because paul george <unk> two years. I think lebron has two more peaked lebron years in the sense of he is arguably a top five five six player in the league right like i think he's in that but that's it this year next year and then we start to see the drop so by the time he is going to be thirty five hi this year. He'll start the season next year. They'll turn thirty six right so the when by the time lebron is thirty six on thirty seven okay which would be the option year for the lakers right because he's got an option for that fourth year by tommy hits that fourth year that's the decline likely will start <music> window the window. You got two more seasons with lebron at what i think can be lebron. No i think you gotta get it done over the next two ears and when i say get it done you gotta win a championship first of all you got to win the championship this year. I think you've got to be all in yeah right now. I mean i think this if there's going to be a year to do it where i i think everybody has some vulnerabilities where you can go in and really go down and have that parade that you've been trying to get since the two thousand and tame. What was the last championship. I forget for the lakers kobe and those guys because yeah. It's been a minute twenty twenty two yeah. It's been a minute but at the same time time you think about where lebron is right now. I really just wanted to go see him. Play basketball again. I wanna see what did this rest do for lebron. What did this time. I am off <hes> because i think what happened was last year. We got caught up in so much of how well they were doing and then christmas really humbled everyone that injuries and father time oh you can't escape it and i think lebron so far when i watch him in the way too he's what about this off season and how much obviously that he's working the way that he's recruited recruited the way that he's brought guys on. I'm not so sure that he can. I'm i think i'm pretty sure that george he can relax a little bit than in in years past to start the season. You know where it was like. I know where i'm going to be it. I don't need to wrap it up. I know because i think what happened was. He rammed it up at a time where it christmas crispus. You like no we don't. We don't need you right there. Lebron like rampant up when we get past the all star break the pace it and so what i think kevin durant injury maybe klay thompson gingery what that due to a lot of n._b._a. Players is that everyone watched kawhi leonard and load management does lebron put himself himself on a load management because i don't care what lebron does between october in in in in march. I care about what he doesn't april. I think agree see. I wanna see a a better. I want to see the best lebron that i've seen because i haven't seen him. Come off of an injury or have an extended off period the way that he has this year didn't have to play this summer. I agree but i also think lebron even though generally ramps up to the season. You know what i'm saying like or through the season. I think he's gonna have select games where he's going to have those kind of ball out <hes> because i do think that the western conference is a little. I don't know how if it's the deeper per se <hes> but it is stronger at the top than it's been in a while because you can make the case this year and a wide open league okay and that you're going to hear that phrase a lot this season right. You're you can make the case that seven teams can win the championship. I mean let's just do it okay. Yeah i mean the to l._a. Teams correct. I still give the warriors punches chess. The denver nuggets probably top seed top three c- man. I'm still thinking about utah's. Well okay but i'm just to them. Yeah yeah utah rive in the west. Rackets rock is still give the rockets. What's your birthday right and then you got the two east teams you got me. Hey you gotta philly and milwaukee championship aspirations at the current moment right and that's not to say that some of the other teams the east can't make a move that can put them in that same category because there are teams that can make another move. Maybe boston makes a move right. Indiana makes <hes>. I don't think the nets will make another move because they've got katie on the shelf but you know what if what if <hes> jimmy butler gets gets a partner and bradley beal or someone like that you know what i'm saying like if the wizards deal bradley beal who hasn't signs extension and he's like now i'm good i'm out and he ends up with one of those teams. I just mentioned boston or indiana or the all of a sudden they climb came up the ladder as a team that could come out of the east so because right now. It's only two teams in the east. I think they can make it to the finals philly milwaukee right but it doesn't mean a third or fourth can't be added based on the trade deadline so that's eight teams you know right now that you can make the case at least with a punchers chance they can win an n._b._a. Title this year but it's to to your point as to why if you're the lakers you can't wait and i know it's rare that teams come together and win a championship right away. I know we saw the celtics do it in two thousand eight seven seven and eight zero seven zero eight season but that's that's the outline but if you're the lakers that's honestly you just you gotta take advantage of this particular season. You not only do you gotta take but it's you don't have to worry about the young guns anymore. I that's that's another thing i think last year was such a a a trial period of young players trying to see what this coups. Do you know what does josh hard. Do does ingram yeah. That's all you. You don't have to worry about that. So that's why. I think that if i'm lebron i can kind of cruise a little bit. I can load manage to you to your point. Oil you said abo- will lebron had to take over some games. I got a bunch of dues at know who they are. You know what i mean like. I know what you do. You know what i mean. If i'm jared dudley i know what you do or if i'm looking at rondo i know who you are like. I know i know around. I don rondo in the forest. There's certain situations where there's going to be guys who are out there that know what their role is on his basketball club than in years past with a little bit different like a lotta guys. I don't know what should i do. What should i do in the survivor whereas been coups which i think is awesome by the way but still though it's one of those things where i can see lebron load man. That's that's it's what is gonna be all about me and loge management. That's that's new. I see it in the n._f._l. Now with todd gurley in the rams and i think it's going to be in the other team and he comes to basketball because i think the clippers is gonna do the same thing with kawhi leonard they don't do anything with paul. George and the same thing with lebron needs to happen as well because i don't wanna see him burn out and i know he's had all of this time but still father time catches up with us all and i saw dwayne wade you know he have one good game and then all of a sudden. You've got a couple of okay game. Lebron would be at his pick. Come april and i mean peak peak not just oh he's been playing well and he's finally peaking. It's to a point where come april may that he's a guy that i have never even seen before because this could be that last run you i'm gonna put it all in for this season <hes> speaking of which <hes> their people up in arms about this all decade team the n._b._a. Put out there today on n._b._a. T._v. <hes> kobe bryant's inclusion and where he is is really set some people off. We'll get into that. We're back in four minutes here at the sit down. I show here on e._s._p._n. L._a. kirk morrison hanging out at the hotel spa and resort so the n._b._a. N._b._a. t._v. released these all all decade teams and it's got people all bent out of shape right now like just so so mad right now so let's start art with the third team the third team they <hes> trying to find it now. He's not going to scroll down there thing. This is second team as a second team all decade so a third team all decade. Here's who they got. They got in the back court. I guess there's not technically doing it by back. Court or whatever are but they've got dwayne wade and kobe bryant. I mean sard argue. You gotta put those jews on the all decade team for sure now. We and we say all decade. We're starting from twenty eh tent right okay which was champion lakers second championship secretary with kobe okay yeah and then after that was the start of the the right okay right short right there right there after right okay yeah <hes> so that's the third team right so that's got all bent out out of shape is the third team so they've got wade kobe paul george jaanus and lamarcus aldridge on the third team okay so that's the third team on the second team. They've got russell. Westbrook look blake griffin chris paul anthony davis and carmelo anthony. Would you make any changes between third and second team right now. Wow oh wow that i i mean kobe only played till two thousand sixteen right. You know what i'm saying so there's that part of it but i think what it happens. A lot of people just get lost in where mela was in twenty ten to about twenty five t was good he he was really good but i think what's happened. It's kind of when you look at where he's at right third to should be. I think it should be third thirty right but replace our elevate way. D. wade tonet thirteen. Yeah i would elevate delayed. I think i will put the switch d. wade and carmelo just because the championship that anyone out right right in the sense of like he didn't go out like he's begging carmelo big like he went out and he got votes for sixth man of the year and like you know he played well but you know what. I think that they're missing. One person who i'll get you the first team in a second. They're missing one person because you can go with the gold the first team and i think a one guy who i would switch out on thirteen but go. I let let let you finish lists okay so then the first team is lebron obviously staff kawai durant hard. I don't think you can argue with the first team right right like that. One's pretty cemented. I think if there's any issues it's the second and the third team. I don't know if blake should be also also i would. I don't know about blake the there's two guys on that list i would. I would kind of figure out. Where do i put in dirk nowitzki like why isn't it lists. If you think about the five year stretch that he had obviously world champion. I don't know dirk has been good since that after right after that championship in two thousand ten or eleven he hasn't been that good sense but think about how good was kobe after that you know what i mean kobe was way better than dirk understand about how good was kobe in that last two or three years. You know what i mean. He called me was good until he got injured came back and he played all right. You know what i'm saying like you. He didn't play like kobe bryant. You know what i'm saying because he was you know he's the one good you have to the achilles. I thought like one really good year and then after that like father time you know what i'm saying so what you're saying is there's only like because of the injury cost him a year correct right actually more than a year or the year but where do you put like a guy who loss goes in that list so we're all decade lamarcus aldridge kind of strange to saying like i could see dirk before or lamarcus but but lamarcus numbers are way better than you think way better than dirks from twenty two acre right at one point right a lot of people thought so. I think we probably would have a different. I guess you know mindset on him if we <hes> if he would've came to los angeles yeah i am just <hes> i have no problem with john is on the list. I know people are like oh. You know what i'm saying but janas three time all m._b._a. He's an m._v._p. Already you know what i'm saying like you. Gotta put them on that list like he's. He's he's there. You know what i mean like. He's been really good the last couple of years and he's on the third team yeah. That's that's fine. That's fine as the injury level wolf yeah decade right right. I think lamarcus aldridge at third team is kind of strange blake and carmelo you kind of make the argument it could be should be lower sticking like klay thompson okay so here's what i would do is just a couple of other guys. I'm just thinking i mean i think klay should be on there. I don't know if i would take. I mean there's no positions that i'm taking lamarcus out okay. Are you taking clay over blake griffin. Yes i'm not arguing with you to say like if we're going to put i would probably you said you would elevate way to second team. Yes so let's do it your way right. We elevate wait. Wait a second team. We eliminate lamarcus aldridge all of a sudden you could put clay and blake on the third by then then when you do carmella. You should keep him in on the second team. I'd have to look at cornell numbers closer yeah. That's what me and my my my knicks. My new york eric nicks buddies my group chat they love carmelo and they're just saying that carmelo will still ballin in new york. Knicks days even weren't winning. You know playoff series like carmelo will steal steal put up numbers. He was doing everything he could. It just didn't have the right team around him. I mean as each day. I mean okay okay. That's what they say so. I'm looking at i'm looking at carmelo's okay so he's sixteen seventeen to twenty two nd the numbers of air. We just didn't have the substance behind it yeah. He was never ever like a great great shooter. Chauncey said ozzie said it did he come in the locker room. Be upset that you know. He didn't have thirty yeah. I don't know i think melo's probably not a second team or either. I just don't know you put ahead of him. You know what i mean like. I think that's i mean. I wouldn't move kobe up to then if that's the case. I think kobe had a nice five year run. I think that if you look at kobe he's got a championship in there right. Carmelo doesn't have that right yup. I'm almost positive he let me see. He probably has more all-star. Maybe even more. I more first team but more all m._b._a. Appearances there too in that stretch caramelized three all n._b._a.'s from two thousand ten on. I want to see how many kobe has from that stretch because kobe you gotta make that we have to look at all yet. Show kobe has all n._b._a. Yeah yeah kobe's morla all m._b._a.'s than him yeah and their first team so yeah i would move koby and weight up <hes> take lamarcus <music> out right and then i'd bring down blake and carmelo and that clay and add clay yeah yeah so i do want to get the criteria of who you know because yeah ask what what's the criteria in insure now so now listen so now the thirteen would be blake carmelo clay jaanus and paul george and then your second team not that i will feel really comfortable with that too right there guys who are superstars in this league. I think the respect that they get around the league u._s._a. In his day they've done a good job and and then your second he'll be westbrook wade koby chris paul and anthony davis. I think you'd have a better you. That would be a better like list to me. <hes> you know that's what i would do. I would have those those would be my second team all decades. You can't argue with the first team you can't but i think that kobe wade wade deserve second team. Yeah i'm with you on that. Was it so steph. Katie lebron james harden right and who was the fifth. Oh crap now. My bet quite quite the show. That's what i'm saying like so i that's how i would do it. Lamarcus you out play you're in blake in and in melanie carmel switch which are for kobe and wait and i said paul george budget still thirteen. I know all decade. I mean win anything anything. I'm just saying i i think he probably over definitely over blake. You know private blessed but the other they're all like right there with each other though right you know what i mean yeah like paul george and nothing he's not like defensive player of the year or anything. You know what i mean this is. This is indiana paul to talking about. He was good. They got him twice right like that's cool. He was going to get the bronze great like don't get me wrong but it's like you know. Thirteen is cool. You know he got account. I i need took. The criteria for this is to like is just point like traditional statistics. Do championships factoring. Do all m._b._a.'s factory right right like. I don't know what the criteria for this list is way over the break. We are way over the break. We can keep this going down the road. I'm sorry about that. I just got got rolling and i want to get into some of the stuff going on around the n._f._l. Which you particularly rams raiders who are going to meet up here pretty soon with some joint practices. We're back in three minutes saddam show here on e._s._p._n. L._a. kirk morrison hanging out with us here. We are at the per se a hotel spa and resort. I t like just a regular ice not pillow limited. If one of those kind of day george yeah you know you sit back over here on these nice little couch cushions outside. I'm a little little kickback surfer shoes on row. I'll feel real. Oh ceus today right right right right yeah. You don't look bay area right. I'll be walking and i say yeah. Kirk is awesome. It's funny. Somebody was tweeting me. Hold on what's his name. Let's see about dirk is nicholas shaddock eric yeah and he says bra relax jerk beat the heels show. Some respect is not about that. It's just about about his run in the decade but he did beat the heat. Will i mean he did that like gives you like plus ten points taking off the thirteen then i'm. I know that i'm just trying to figure out i'm playing devil's advocate but i think when you think about the decade i mean he did when an m._v._p. To though you know what i mean but that was that that was that was my we believe will yeah that was a previous. The oh eight oh nine. I think dirk if he didn't wanna. Championship missed a lot the games though that in this decade finals m._v._p. He played only forty seven games the year after the strike okay <hes> eleven he deplayed then he played eighty seventy seven seventy five and fifty four saying like so he wasn't as he was super duper health either right and say the same for kobe in the same decade. I get it <hes> but kobe was putting up more points then dirk. Was you know so. I think that some of that falls into law. You can make the case as for dirk i i. I don't know i just feel like blake. Griffin was a more productive the hall of fame. I you know i'm saying like the hall of fame voter. Put the price here like could think about the core. The criteria like that goes into you know with playoff appearances was it you know this was all all n._b._a. Like what all goes into because i would love to put every like in the n._f._l. Hall of fame we'll just come off holiday weekend so it's kinda still fresh them all right now george but you know when each candidate for the hall of fame aim go. There's a you know a journalist. <hes> you know somebody within the hall in terms of the reporters and things that have to make the case for why this should be there. I know debating hall of famer but we're talking about just put his decade. I want i would want to know what the criteria was. When someone walked up and say hey blake griffin you know how did this this this x y and z. He has to be in the second team of his decade. That's that's a lot for for for he and c. p. You you know that that nucleus of those two guys who played well for a stretch but the way to kind of ended in ways blown up over the last couple of years get about that that clippers run three or four years with he and the andre and chris i mean dirk the last four or five years that he played at still at a relatively high level still only giving you seventeen eighteen a game like i know that that shouldn't be dismissed but in comparison to these other guys that on the on this list we just talked about you know what i mean like. All those guys were putting more than twenty in idaho. Yeah you know so towards was dirk is definitely on the two thousands all team. I get yeah yeah yeah yeah because he had a great run. He wanted m._v._p. There as you mentioned geno seven. I would've loved to see this comparison of on that team to where we are right now. Pull it up. Pull it up but that'd be a research assignment. Force force you know kind of look at each year or each decade like how's it change because we have all decade team but now to have these tears and when you look at the tears i i think when you look at it right now. That's the tears of the way that free agency has been when you think about starting the team. I'm thinking about those five guys that were on the first team in and now oh it's the second team that has kind of now pushing their way through in terms of being cornerstones for teens for the future yeah for sure. I don't think there's any question about it. <hes> let me speaking of cornerstones for the future <hes>. I've heard a lot of good things about the kid that the rams draft that it running back henderson darryl henderson anderson. I almost feel like we're also going to see a newer version of sean mcveigh like just when you thought people are like oh we no is sean likes to do. I feel is gonna be a lot of wrinkles in this offense this year. Am i crazy to think that no not at all he last year. He got his lunch handed tool. Then a super bowl scored three points sean mcvay scored three points against bill belichick and i think that it was about this team needing some more scheme versatility city. They do well what they do. Don't get me wrong but it's like okay we can do more and how can we do more without changing the entire offense. It's adnew pieces right or like when you're at home right and you like me. We need to do something to this living-room bay but we liked what we have. But what can we do get some extra throw pillows. Let's get extra vase over here yeah. Let's get you want you. You want to keep the base of the foundation of what you have little pieces little accent pieces and you walk walk in like wow that looks what have you done to this liberal and <hes>. I just added a couple. You know what i mean or for us when we go on t._v. Or reduce the right. It could be the same suit but i'm hit you with a different shirt a different tie different pocket square. This is the same suit you successor as accessorize it and he got him a new accessory. You gotta coordinate eh but darryl henderson is the new accessory man but to me still comes down to. I wanna see more from the tight end position. I wanna see more hick in every tog. Early is going to be fine talked earlier. I think he's gonna be right back to where he was. I think it's been over hyped his injury situation. I've just been on. I've been on board saying a tug early is healthy. He'll be okay. Don't worry about got it low management. He'll be ready to go. I want to talk more about the rams but i also want to ask you the question we can do it on. The other side is boomerang the most underrated eddie murphy film collection. I want to get into some of that on the other side with you. Kirk morrison's donald show. We're at the pierre hotel spa and resort here in huntington beach looking at the beautiful ocean and the reaches well. We'll be back conformance. Sit down and show here on e._s._p._n. L._a. kirk morrison hanging out with us here today at the hotel and spa resort short here in huntington beach so we were gonna talk about we were talking about the rams all of a sudden switch but i wanted to get into 'cause i made a comment mended about coordinate yeah reminded me of boomerang and i asked you the question just kind of randomly <hes> what is the most under appreciated or underrated eddie murphy movie to me because i would say boomerangs in the conversation it doesn't get mentioned as one one of his favourite or best movies to me. I think what really is underrated but i felt like once said you appreciate the movie be a little bit more in what he was able to do as an actor. I think the golden child oh. That's a good you know what i mean is very underrated. When you watch the the film you like all right. I mean it. Was that the plot to it and you know he's trying to keep the rescue to the kid and it was really. I won't deny we could but yeah that was that was one. I think that was a very underrated arrayed it though man yeah i would too. That's a good one <hes> the distinguished gentleman <hes> earlier as well. Ben brought it up. It was good <hes> that that was a pretty good. One yet that that run in the nineties was just incredible think about it. It's kind of to your end night but to kind of what you're kind of. I think kind of gearing gearing towards is that when you see what netflix kind of geared up for seventy mail yeah for multiple i would imagine yeah but i think there's something that we need though 'cause we i haven't seen eddie in his element in a long time to do was really one of the first people to be able to play different characters and really make you feel like like that was a different person right. I didn't think that was i wanna i wanna come into america. You didn't realize how many characters he was still thinking. That was individual people right when i saw yeah i saw it and i even still to this day. I still think that there's still some individual people. I don't think that's really eddie murphy. You know in the back when i was eight and mike but he did such a good job of love making you believe that that was a soul character not really him yeah. I don't know so we know where's the spoon <hes> so okay so we know coming to america two's coming out because they're senio you know told us to set up and then we know that i've heard is it true true that there's another beverly hills cop coming out probably air by doing remakes sure no but i had with him. Though is what i'm saying i could be wrong about that but i feel like they need to make up for the third one which wasn't as great as it could have been <hes> you know but that that was kind of the one of those beverly hills cop movies that wasn't so good but anyway the way the the reality is to meet like yet like i saw him on seinfeld comedians in cars having coffee and it was forty minutes which is usually very long for that okay and it took about twenty minutes from to warm up. I felt like where he was. Just like super guarded right with someone like jerry who's like again again. A super duper famous comedian there was a little bit of a key clear a mutual admiration society going on but yeah it took about twenty minutes until he had that coffee it it felt like a relaxing and then he was he was starting to be able was coffee yeah did he was starting to be eddie and i was like okay. I see i see it again because you wonder because comedy doesn't always age well you know what comedy is he going to be. You know be doing raw delirious. That's not p._c. In two thousand nineteen you know what i mean but the outfits he was wearing is really backing stout. You gotta outfit again right joints again at red leather or he just joke. I feel like you have to go with the leather outfit. Taking full circle. I think is interesting like that. He's kind of on the comeback who would be like. I guess like if you really think about it like who's the sports eddie murphy in this clearly sports is the ten year is a lot shorter right like guys careers a lot shorter but i who is a guy that you feel like we are writing off because he had great success but we're writing them off like a little too quickly. Wow any sport doesn't have to be just basketball or football or whatever it could be whatever you want at great success but we're writing them off. Yeah took quicker show yeah. That's a good one. I think because people have wrote him off a little bit yeah we we're kind of in that conversation. I'll walk. Her bueller is about the other star right off the third time. Now you know but you made that point early in the season. He's not the key. He's one of the keys yes. He's not the master key anymore. He just wanted him bill the school. Let i'll tell you all the keys but i'll tell you this. If you you really look at the splits between review and walker bueller their way better at home than they are on the road so you know in the play offs when you pitch and guys his kershaw going on the road like you can say what you want about his experiences over the history of the playoffs but you know you ain't going be worried or like the situation could be too big for him on the road bright so that that's kind of almost in that similar vein you know yeah. That's a good question though like guys is who we kinda just sent off and not getting the recognition. I think you put mellow in that category. Is he or is he too far gone at this point man. I think he's a good candidate for that as well. I mean 'cause we've. I've always said that when you look at carmelo and he goes into the hall of fame the number one stat that we're always going to say. Is that national championship. He hadn't college like he's still been hanging out late but many peoples that meant. He led a team to the national but in his m._b._a. Careers he's a two time olympian in awe as the most decorated olympian team u._s._a. History correct so you have all of those accolades but i think it's like all right. Sorry man it's over carmelo. You're not going to get the same song and dance that everybody else got. What about demarcus cousins because of injury. I don't know if i put the markets in that class though like i don't even think he's he's not mellow like dot mellow but i'm saying like eddie murphy. You know you got to be in that category. You know where it's like. This dude was considered arguably one of the best players in the world at one point like i don't think we ever thought that about demarcus cousins even as great as he is and he's great but i don't think he's ever been conversation because early on in in metals career it was like you know he's making the playoffs lebron and home. You know what i'm saying like like there was some talk about that so i think it's to a degree todd gurley okay because he's had some success early on and and it's the the last i think about the last two games his last two games new orleans new england n._f._c. championships super bowl. He didn't have the numbers that people expected him to have throughout his career. He rushed for one hundred fifteen yards or prior week. Versus the dallas cowboys and two scores right but yet we think about the a new orleans game we think about the new england patriots game and everybody's just about man if the rams to get that contract they would they just drafted darrell henderson and i feel like it's almost you kinda putting tied in a box and all his teammates are coming to his defense. Jared goff's comes to his defense and i look can we all quit giving his bad energy about mead talking about my knee. I'm fine. I'm big yeah just just hard to watch when you're no the rams could really have used him in the playoffs and the super bowl so it's like a slow death. Almost breitbart for the rams not not really performing in in the super bowl. They had a chance to win but i think watching that way. Of course you're gonna put that attention on girl you like you. Just it's a red light man. I think they write them off. Air biden. I remember last year. Todd gurley was going to be the highest top drafted players and fantasy and now some people are trying to figure out is he layton in the fifth brown or windy. You take todd gurley were last year. You know you're taking him in the first round so he's another guy that i think the early success and kind of right now but i maybe just a running back position in general you know what i mean zeke you ellie melvin gordon had some success charters him getting that degree so just on the football since <hes> you know the big topic or to the conversation conversation today was tom brady and what he's been able to do now. Correct me if i'm wrong. Those are a series of one year deals basically right with with tom brady yet. There's basically they do it to a point where they can free up salary. Cap space is the might have a lot at now do a two year deal to create room for the next shear so i mean he still the sixth highest paid quarterback in the n._f._l. He could be the highest paid if he wanted to make a big stinker he just goes about. It doesn't work this. Is tom but i think we've tried to write tom off the last what four or five years i mean i go back to three years ago and everybody will say what are you doing win. Jimmy garoppolo was the heir-apparent tom. What are you just get out of. I'm not even solan jimmy. Garoppolo arm element was on t._v. Saying everybody tell everybody that he's he's going to be. He's closed a done. If i recall correctly i don't want to throw words in his mouth and that when it goes is going to go well. We've been waiting for it to go see right but they wrote him off three years ago and he's still going and he just signed a two year. Extension is wild so he's another guy well. I think rule changes have helped quarterbacks. Rule changes have helped because they i call it this the the plan safehouse yeah which is the pocket right if you would have given john elway joe montana dan marino these rules right warren moon no history. Jim kelly o. hits above the hill above the shoulders right known dis dis. You can't can't tackle bolognaise on a quarterback so okay elway moon marino montana kelly. I gave you those five quarterbacks in today's n._f._l. How many r._j. Urgently throwing for all over forty five hundred five thousand easy easy easy. I mean carino making more than sixty house right marina moon. We're getting you that anyway yeah. They were already there. Yeah i mean it's just it's just father time his age <hes> you know you you one of look at certain guys and i think another a guy in n._b._a. I think maybe it's starting to happen now. With with chris paul you know in terms of early success early on in with the pelicans and then you you know comes over to with the clippers and now a sudden you know he gets traded. Everybody's just like all right. See you later chris and it's like you're almost pushing him off to the side. Oh i didn't like he's not. I think he's going to have a decent season in oklahoma. City will people care though i know because they're not going to be a playoff team but some of my trade for him if he just has a good season to start art and that that could maybe salvage his career little bit. I coming up next. Let's get into raiders rams. There could be practicing this week. I feel like that <hes> people are gonna be interested in that because as you pointed out those are actually more interested in the preseason games now so let's dive into that head first. We're here at the hotel here. As we begin. Oh see weekday one here at the hotel and spa resort huntington beach coming out where it's seven o'clock on e._s._p._n. L._a.

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HR 2: Is the Dodgers & Padres rivalry even a thing?

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HR 2: Is the Dodgers & Padres rivalry even a thing?

"More spanking morales. What you need to know is brought to you by morongo. Play it safe. Good time scott. What do you got all right so today. What you need to know is the name vincent jackson and people. I'm sure have read the story. This guy was a really great. Nfl wide receiver. I say great. I don't mean like he's going to the pro football hall of fame but he had a really great career and he came from a small school. Northern colorado was a late round draft choice and really was a great explosive player for the san diego. Chargers went onto play for tampa bay. Made a bunch of money put up a bunch of stats had a career to be proud of found dead in a hotel. Well goodness that doesn't seem very normal. Seem like a great guy family guy what happened here and the police now have have said some things related to there wasn't foul play but there seemed to be a lot of alcohol involved and some other health related issues and the family came out and said this is the by product of the nfl concussions. Thirty eight years old way too young and my what you need to know is the. Nfl has got to do a better job of taking care of these players. 'cause i used to be very unsympathetic when they'd come sit down on radio row george and say hey man. It's all about these old guys and they got problems and we need to help again but they knew the risks. But when you see it in real life and he's thirty eight years old telling you man the. Nfl has got to do a better job for its players. Well you lived it in a way scott you. You did a show for a long time. Billy ray smith right who played in the nfl right. And i think that you know firsthand having worked with someone who worked who played in that sport for a very long time how it can be a mess for you physically mentally emotionally. After the fact. I used to say to my old radio partner all the time. Why are you suing the nfl when you made money and became a star in love the fact that you were an nfl player. Why are you suing them. And he would say 'cause. I don't know what i'm going to be in ten years and man was in a good thing that he sued them because ten years later life was completely different. And when you're fifty six years old and you don't remember what you did. Thirty seconds ago can't drive anymore got to. Have somebody help you with everything i'm doing. It's it's amazing. What football does to a human body. As i know you very much have been on the side of the players throughout all of this and i look i still feel like. There's a lot that needs to be figured out from the nfl. I just don't know if they have the incentive to do it outside of lawsuits and things of this nature well unlike much of the nba. The nfl does not view the players as partners and for decades and decades The nfl players did not do what they needed to do. As a union to do small things like contract. Guaranteed for you. Start to play again. So they're behind in a lot of this empowerment. Conversation had been going on around all the other sports but it's good to see them beginning to try to catch up because to your point. Scott this game is very very hard on the body and is very difficult to project. What's going to happen to you as the years. Go by after you after you retire and so the nfl in order for its continue to be a viable source of entertainment for people. It's going to have to resolve. What is doing to people with our chief people afterwards. So well said i was brought to you by morongo. Play it safe good times. I saw michael jordan's birthday today. We'd take calls today because it's got kaplan's birthday. And he shares it with michael jordan and jim brown and a number of people including paris hilton. Ed sheeran i like it sheeran. paris hilton. That's hot yet. Joseph gordon levitt an actor. As well larry the cable guy also today So we've been having people call us. Hit us up with your birthday. What day it is who you share it with a cetera et cetera. Hit us up. But because it's michael's birthday today i feel like you know you're talking about one of the greatest of all time in any sport really and we also have the greatest of all time i think arguably in any sport in serena williams facing naomi osaka today l. a. And it just kind of reminds me of like when you look at jordan jordan. Had that one rival right like he. He faced kind of everyone right at different stages of his career. I guess initially maybe isaiah those guys but then it was the knicks for a little while and it was the pacers even for a minute and then he never faced anyone but the jazz more than once. But in sports there are so many of these great rivalries. And i feel like serena i know soccer is kind of like what we saw with brady and mahomes right like you know the the young goat and the older goat right kind of colliding here that those rivalries for whatever reasons especially when you focus on individual matchups are more intriguing to me than contemporary rivalries. Yeah like i'm more intrigued by the future versus the president that i am about two guys. Top of their games. At the moment. And i don't know why it just feels like the drama between who's going to win uncle father time or youth would be served expressions going to win. I just find that. More compelling like if if zion lebron eventually faced off in a couple of years that would be more compelling way more compelling than any katie lebron matchup right at least like a passing of the torch situation guy and whether or not or young athletes odor athlete. Because here. we have serena in osaka. Osaka won the us open. Who's one trillion open before like. She's she's doing the damn thing and she's making social stands and she's got marketing deals and she's one of the richest athletes in the world and she's coming for serena's thrown and she's already beaten her before. Yeah yeah good. Well i think. That's fascinating to kind of ponder. I'm with you on that. I feel like that's an interesting topic in itself. Like who would you want to see. Lebron eventually face off like who is the young lion that will face lebron down the road. I see i go the other way. I do contemporaries because to me. One of the greatest rivalries and i was a child and really. It's what got me into the nba. Was magic and bird right. And i feel like there's so many dynamics there with magic and bird because you you know you were you were either a magic guy or you're a bird die. You know what i mean. And i was people and they were all of demographic you can imagine and i was and i was a magic like you know when you when i imagine when. They faced off in the eighties. I'm like six seven years old. I time i'm really understanding sports right. And i'm watching the lakers. And they're running up and down in the passing and magic was so crazy. He literally was magic on the floor right so it was impossible to not love what you were seeing from him. And you know the celtics were good. But larry was flashy occasionally but you know they played the game you know very traditionally and a lot of ways just was boring for a kid so i was in love with that. So i do like the contemporaries. Although you've got my mind going on the young versus older athlete you know those well. I thought yeah since we had that whole mahomes brady thing and now. You're talking about this tennis rivalry. I feel like i'm missing. A big story here serena to me is the goat of women's tennis and don't maybe maybe women athletes contemporary women athletes The other young lady you've talked about. L. z and her having like social justice She's spoken out. But i don't know much about her tennis career other than a couple of things that you just said that she i. I feel like. I'm missing the whole story here. All right. we'll go to google trump brands tennis fan. I'm not a tennis fan. Tell me just give me a tennis fan and give every especially. Here's the span. Here's go because i told you. Obviously that she's known for. I very let you know that her name recognition is beyond the sport that she plays right three time grand slam champion. Right i don't follow women's tennis. Excuse me all right. But i just told you that. She's beyond her sport. That's like say. I don't know mohammed ali. 'cause i don't follow boxing. I know she's not an obvious novel but that's analogy them using. That's all well i mean. Listen i just i. i'm not alone in this okay. I'm not alone in not following women's tennis so i'm trying to say look. This sounds really interesting to me. I'm a serena fan. Even she's the one personality in name that i feel really like i know her career and i don't know this other young ladies career and so now i'm interested and i know they're gonna play tonight and you know what i think i'm gonna watch you go there. You go so we're sold eight seven seven seven ten. Espn we got a lot of people on hold that want to chime through here on their birthday who they share it with cap shares birthday with michael jordan and jim brown ellison's on fire today just by the way just by the way. He's had like three phenomenal lines today. Just throwing it out their heads he. He's singing. I love it. I love spicy. L z carlos. What's up carlos. Hey how you doing. What's up Well my birthday is february twentieth. Say happy birthday. The cat by the way joe. Happy birthday to you coming up. Thank you thank you. I share it with kurt cobaine. Riyan charles barkley mitch. Mcconnell the list goes on it's a it's an english there but that's pretty good though in room. We have a beagle party. Okay so if you could only go to dinner with one of them. Right like charles barkley. Kurt cobaine riyadh mcconnell i. Also trevor noah was in there. I believe sydney and they're looking at it now. I mean ask. Google it myself cindy crawford. That's a good one too if you could only go to dinner with one of them who are you going to dinner with with. Yeah man and to carlos thank you buddy. Be good stay safe. Let's go to rain harbor city rate my favorite harbor city. I love arbor city. Talk to about harbor city. Also i need. I go down there all the time because i've got one of my favorite taco places but before i get to my favorite taco place glow Let's talk. let's talk about your birthday. tell me about your birthday speaker. I'm not on speaker guys. Okay no no you're good. You're good handheld. Mary nice turbot very nervous to glue so in harbor city. Since you're there oh absolutely. We go to work at kaiser at harbor city like a block away basically. Yeah exactly right and you know you're harbor city good stuff. I live in the south bay. Come on man. hey will help you. I work in the orthopedic department. May i never see you there. That means you're hurting. Broken positive love. I never see you there all right so birthday. Is april twenty-seventh okay and shared with ulysses grant as freely from kiss cool and the very talented lovely rizzo feeling good. It's hail taker pretty good. Liz oh well now's the you're on fire today but keep it up. He's infla- go. It all started with ray. Thank you brother. Be good okay. Let me grab one more. Sneak one more in anthony in la anthony. We got because we got going on the border fellas. What's out of you're paying just looking twenty. Get that money earlier. But you know my name. Laura i know but you know what are you registered. Oh yeah listen. I'm sort of about three weeks ago. You gotta register mission and you texas number. Four zero seven zero five to try to win some money. We've got one hundred eighty on the line tomorrow. So what do you got today. i'm locked. My birthday is march eleventh. I celebrated release. I know to terrence howard on the big filler. Ad anthony davis. Oh i love it there. You go i got i got terrence howard story that i can get to later but we gotta break but and thank you so much. Stay healthy stay safe. We appreciate it coming up next. Mom's gonna come up. I want to as roma when her birthday is and who she shares it with and is she one of those aisher. I celebrate my birthday for a month. People because i don. I love moment but you guys do that. Celebrate for mondo laura. Do you think that's a woman thing. Now i definitely think. I definitely think it's a lady thing where ladies are like. Hey it's my birthday for a month and guys are all like whatever you say. Yes yes it is. March is not our former produces rated for. Oh that yes. Roj was one of those celebrate his birthday for month. He goes like vegas for like six days person. All right we're going to break most coming up. We'll talk some hoops with her. We'll ask her about her birthday. He's hurting his kaplan. Didn't hear the shout out at the beginning now. He's just lashing out of everybody touch it but it's such a bad bit that we haven't had an open phone line for the entire time that we've done it right. I mean i don't know. I let the people decide. This is the show. The people morales remember that we used to do the show for the people. Just do for yourself. Wow wow this now. Yeah populist now on this sodano momo's here hello momo. Hey what's going on you know. Listen if you want chris morality to like you you just have me on every day because he he writes songs about me and stuff and there you go there you go and elza this song. That's playing. I know you requested it. It's been a rough couple of days for you. Obviously we mentioned at the top. You know we're happy to have you back. But i know it's been a rough time for you here. Yeah i don't wanna talk about it. 'cause i'll follow pizzas. I just appreciate you. I got you. Yeah i saw you social media now. You had a friend who passed away and this is a shout out a tribute song. I love it. That's great for sure for sure. So may rest in peace schommer. We got a lot of basketball stuff to talk to you about however we have been talking about famous birthdays. That you share with people okay. So you're birthdays. Nineteen so here's what you got. Okay kennedy benedict cumberbatch okay. That's not bad that's good. That's good We've got john jones of the have. We've got tougher. Grace remember toepfer. Grace grace is pretty good. Yeah actor vitale go. Have you on chance lamarcus older married. Oh the market okay. So we'll either one. Who's made married to tally which one is married to her. I don't fit the league victory so it is him so you wanna look man. I think that we got a winner. Here stuart scott came over. Yeah yeah yeah. I was gonna say who. Who's the one there. But yeah you share birthday was too. I thought you were going to say riley curry. Remember curry's on that list. Yeah def daughter. She's very famous now. She probably got more instagram followers. In all of us right no question by the way. Did you see that. Chris paul commercial with with little. Chris is not so little anymore. That's freaking out where's donkey. I'm like what the heck little chris with donkey and he's not little. I mean usually trampoline. But he's done guest spill. I can't handle it. He's not little anymore. Man whose commercial is better is it. Chris paul's state farm commercial or damian. Lillard hulu commercial because damian lillard. He's good commercial is so good. I saw in my head all day. It's so good. Dave is a really good rapper. like he's legit. You know and my you know. I have a friend. Her name is lisa robinson. I don't know if you heard her on. Brian windhorst podcast a little while ago. She's like legendary rock and roll music. Journalists is written for vanity fair now covered. Everybody you know since the rolling stones okay huge. Nba fan so. That's why i've gotten to know her She says of all nba players who are musicians or wrappers or whatever you know she said dame is the most legit she's like. He's a legit rapper. For sure. Yeah smoking's momo basketball. Let's let's talk real quick. Ad like what. What do we know. That's new like do you have anything that should be worried like. What is the level of concern. Here what is the treatment that you hear. You're hearing about like what do we know. Well i mean. I don't know if i know anything new to be honest like from the last few days. I think there were talked to somebody today. They weren't really that concerned. Like usually you could tell and people's voice like in front office people right like you can kind of tell if this is like oh man. We're we're worried about i. I really think that like if it was the playoffs you probably tried to play through it. It's it's it's like one of these things that could get worse so they want him to. Just sit down because that you know the way it was described to me is more like this is a team that that is gunning for the playoffs and go back to back and so everything. They're doing even even down to like you know. How are they worried about how they're playing right. You know from night tonight. It's been a little uneven Even down to that. They're they all fit it in the context of we gotta be at our best playoff time. And so what does that tell you about how. They're approaching the injury how they're approaching the rest of the season so as me that he's gonna sit tight for about a month. Yeah as well he should my. My only concern is where my main concern actually is sitting for a month as we're approaching the rutgers stretch that we've had so far in this young season There's a good chance. Utah sustained themselves. There's a good chance to clippers. Continue to sustain themselves. I think we want eight out of nine and we still only one game up on them. Are we risking we here. Are you on jumping on. The clipper a no. No no no. No no pronouns tolerate pronounce. So i guess. I'm just curious as to whether or not pelinka's waiting for the buyout market. Or if he's quietly still looking for another large body recognizing that we can't lose a lot of ground otherwise i wrote to a repeat significantly more difficult. So here's what they're balancing right now. They kind of like the team they have and they don't want to cut anybody and that's the quin cook was odd man out at the beginning of the season right. Remember he was last to be added here. And if they keep the roster's the size they are that's you know he'd probably be the first to get cut right like to add somebody back in You know jared dudley untouchable. He's like that was literally heard that phrase like derek. Wbz pretty untouchable in terms of. They just want him on the team. He's just he's just that glue guy so If they if they add anybody if there's somebody on the buyout out market then you're you have to factor that with k. We'd be cutting somebody else that we like 'cause they really like wing cooked to it. Really they want wolf him and dudley on the team even though they don't play that much so i don't feel like they have. This is overwhelming sense that they need to add to the mix. I think they i think they like what they have. They just need to be healthy. And you know the there there. There's a little more talk about trying to get the players more integrated in the way. they wanna play they. Were you think they were happy with the win last night or was it last night. I never know what it is. Yeah what day is it. When was that. i don't know. Is it wednesday thursday Yeah right. Yeah yeah i. I know it's wednesday today. That i call into your show That's usually how that but then your show moves around. Sometimes because you know the laker sometimes so i messed up that way too but the No i think they were happy with the way they played and i think that's what they're looking for right now is how are we playing. How you know that matters right like you can feel because you've got to win and it's kind of an empty win because he didn't play right I think they were happy with how they've been coming together. In this in the ways those new guys in acclimating recently i would say after last night's game the game that could saul played. You should be happy. i think. The way mantras harrell is very quickly becoming. My favorite player on the lakers. And even wesley matthews is coming in and making some big place ramona. Did i hear you correctly earlier. Say that if this were the playoffs you think anthony davis would be trying to go to. It's like it's like that kind of a situation like you know it. It's too tolerance. So it's it's not something that they're like okay you you you go to have like. He can't do anything right like if he had to. He could try okay I don't think he would feel good right. I mean he re aggravated something. That hurts But this is like the thing i just. I'm so nervous guys. I cover the kevin durant thing up in oakland in oakland that during the final right like i went through that whole thing i learned about all the the muscles in your calf which attach the achilles and they done it right like. That's what's getting. That's what's making me nervous and having clash back. But they don't seem as nervous as i am. Okay i'll just that's the way to play it. Okay fair enough. Yeah motorshow bird mama. Momo love having you on thank you for hanging out with us always appreciate it. Yeah of course everybody else. Good yes yes. all right. Perfect perfect we're just to do it now just to piss morales off. That's not how you get what you need from chris. I don't up a little almost actually said the word instead of crap. But yeah i don't care. Wow yeah no. Chris chris chris responsible than positive reinforcement. I think i. I think you're just gonna keep getting worse and worse lead ins if you good agonized. Want it. That way with thanksgiving heated. Very quickly there. She she's mama momo coming up next. Let's get into some of that. Because i think there are some interesting things here because we feel very nervous and mobile feels nervous but they the lakers do not feel nervous. So let's let's discuss that a little bit on the other side. Eight seven seven seven. Espn if you want to hop aboard we're back in four minutes bailey. School player news to be sent there for monday's elevator. Masika ranchera you nice. Some for scott and those. Are you familiar with recent different on this. I do believe that when watching narcos mexico. I have Seen and heard this jam. That's right. I am not familiar. Well i am enjoying yet he is. He's the king of ranchera music basically And you know he was an actor I think it was like fifty albums or something like that. That he also put out he he was. I mean is was is an mega star. in in medical Loud is he from halley. Sco originally from highly families from grammy's he's won a bunch of grammy's like he's the king is a big part of narcos mexico. Anybody wants to remind your mexican knowledge. Say come on is that the only you know is mexicans you know mexico. I don't criticize my learning judge me. I'll just saying his is kinda bad. If every mexican references about a drug dealer fiction is drug dealer. I learned something all right. You know. I like. I like dark. We we can do here because. La is obviously a large latino population. Initially mcdonnell I feel like for lhasa. We should have a segment called for lhasa. And laura can allow that can teach you something cool about mexican tradition agent every day. What do you think again capable of doing that. You think you can you. Can you handle it. Can i know your stuff on your plate. You are got to babysit all of us and great. So that's already enough And the callers and all that which by the way there is a funny story before we recap our momo you text us the calls and all of a sudden it's weird like when we're taking calls earlier i texas a hey are there any calls and You like oh my god what happened. Who did you text instead of me. So i actually ended up texting one of my classmates and she didn't respond right away. But and i'm like why are the guy's not going to call you guys have a full board of calls and i gave you break times and all this other stuff and then i get a text from her saying. Oh my god. What with all those names mean. What does that mean. what about the bron. I'm so confused. Land that is funny So are you hit the wrong text chat. There obviously happens a lot to me loud. are you in a segment for rasa. Each and every day man. Why not okay. Cat needs help here a lot of help. I'm i'm gonna. I think you're gonna be more impressed by the day. Usually narcos only referenced. Anybody that's latino. That's kind of the lena was so selene. Selena problems maybe offered just a little bit. I mean we were going to go. I was going to have to go You know all julio cesar chavez on us sir boxer chevy when he's not narcos so i don't know if you go in narcos oh do you drink. The beer is three two. Or no not really. Oh okay i mean. I figured that you knew everything about how this go. Now through. Also know a lot about About columbia as well. Sure i right so mama was on with us and we short segment here. We gotta we a break here in a minute in a couple minutes but you know she feels like us right about. Anthony davis concern right healthy concern but the sense is she says from the people she talked to you about it. That there is no concern. So l z. Does that kind of make you more calm about this situation. Absolutely because when. I'm not concerned about an injury and one thing i do is sit out a month cadillac. That's great. I mean come on i mean what did he not concerned. I mean first of all you know the the idea. When i was really surprised. Ramona said that she thought that if this were the playoffs he'd be giving it a go. You'll have to excuse me okay. L. c. I know you like to tell people in advance. Hey i'm not a doctor me neither. But here's what i saw. I saw a guy go limping off the floor who've been dealing with an achilles problem who then the next day it was being reported as a calf problem. There's obviously a lot of problems in that leg. And so yeah. I'm really concerned. Because every time he comes back thereafter. I'm going to be like. Oh man got okay. Just jumped up atlanta god. I hope he's okay. I m. I would be very very concerned. Yeah i'm still concerned. You know what i'm saying now. I'm still concerned should be. It's an achilles like like like that's a significant. We've talked about this before the heart. The brain another parts and aquiles. Those are the things. There's no such thing as minor. Those are always even if it's a little even if it's modern professional terms it's major to everyone else so you're telling me the future franchise player going forward is batting achilles injury yes i'm concerned and yes. I want them to be patient with him. And no i don't want him to rush back and no i don't care if we fall down to the eight seed as long as we get in with you healthy and you know the other thing is about the team you know. Well you know what people are telling me is that they're not really that concerned. Well i know. I'm sure you guys would agree working around teams enough. Maybe you won't agree teams enough. You know that they're not they're not exactly forthcoming with with information. Like oh yeah it's really bad. Let me explain it to you. It's not good. Teams are like yeah. We're not. We're not too worried about it really. We're gonna skim some time and let them braxton. We're not really that worried about it. I don't buy that because my experience having worked around. Many teams teams like to either Not be honest about the injury situation or downplay the injury situation so i'm very concerned. Let's open it up to the people. Eight seven seven seven ten. Espn does momo telling you even though she's concerned and all three of us are concerned and there is a level of concern about anthony. Davis does her telling you that her sources are telling her now. We don't feel we're not concerned. Does that ease you a little bit or are you like us in kind of like i don't know for buying it. Eight seven seven ten. Espn eight seven seven. Seven ten three seven seven six. We'll have that for you on the other side. We'll take calls by the way if you missed earlier. Our buddy sean powell from ontario three hundred sixty bucks if you want to win one hundred and eighty tomorrow. Text the word mission. That's mission to four zero seven zero five also coming up next free agent frenzy trade frenzy the offseason. The nfl is a frenzy. And we gotta discuss that with your calls also coming up in just a few moments or stick around. We did hear yes. There's no question sadly though that's where it ends. Yes yes yes. We did hear that and we have some breaking news in the sports world. We do yes jeff passan. Our pal is reporting that ferdinando that these junior of the san diego padres has agreed to a fourteen year. Three hundred forty million dollar contract extension sources tell espn. Wow that's the same. But you know escot you know normally when we talk about these baseball deals and nosy. You've had a lot of discussions about these. We're talking about guys kind of in their late. Twenties signing these ten twelve. Thirteen year extensions. This just turned twenty two years old. That actually is a really smart move by the team kaplan on one hand it is on the other hand. It isn't and here's what i mean by that. We've been talking a lot about anthony davis and he got that five year deal and now we're talking about an injury in year one and we're all wondering what are the next four years. Look like tat. Tease is an incredible young superstar player. And getting him now at this early stage of his career for what looks like a bargain at twenty four million dollars a year. Because i mean let's face it. Mike trout or mookie betts. We're talking in the thirties. Close to forty million dollars a year so on average it seems like a great number. I just always get worried about these long deals fourteen years. He's getting that. Money is getting that money whether he is the superstar that he's projected to be or not. He's getting that money. It's a long long time to commit to somebody. I think l z. I wouldn't have done it. But i guess if you're you know san diego and you know this is found money in your you know trying to compete with the dodgers and you want to show everyone in the league that you're serious about competing the first way you gotta do. It is by showing people the money. So this is just simply about locking up a young town though obviously. That's a fantastic move. This is also a signal across the bowel letting people know that. Hey we're here to compete. We're real. We're real long time because remember manny machado. Contract was a ten year deal and he'll be going into your three of this deal. So figure seven years to go and tattoos now for fourteen years which i didn't even look to see when the deal actually starts so they tear up what he had. It starts right away but man you got machado and tat tease now for the next call it seven years under contract right. I mean look. I think that his deal is one of those rookie deals. You know what i'm saying like. I think that that's the way you have to look at. This is why it's smart okay. Because they bought out a bunch of his arbitration years right because he he made five hundred and seventy five thousand. He's scheduled to five hundred. Seventy five thousand this season so it will start in the twenty twenty two year when he's twenty three years old. Okay or he. He'll be he'll start the season. Yeah twenty twenty. Three well in theory. Hold on i'm trying to think. Yeah he'll be twenty three. They have bought out one to three years of arbitration plus. He's unrestricted free agency. That would come up twenty six so i think from a business perspective. It actually is really smart. Be smart for both correct. Because he'd be getting paid crap or having to arbitrate all the time to be arguing about money or haggling about money and this was a key to finish fourth in the mvp voting last year. And you talk about marketing though like from a marketing perspective. He's the kid. Now that's on the cover of mlb the show caress. He's that young. Good looking guy with the cool dreads. And he's he's got a commercial now. Latino right that's thirty three percent latino and and so if you're the padres this is a guy now you've invested all of your marketing dollars into as well. I mean he's he's now the franchise for the next fifteen years Yeah yeah but that's the type of guy you're supposed to make a commitment to. I actually think it's smart. I remember andrew friedman. Did something like this with evan. Longoria many many many years ago when he ran the tampa bay rays and remember. Evan longoria played. Like i wanna say like twelve games or something ridiculous like that in the in major league baseball and he bought out a bunch of his arbitration all his arbitration years basically and a couple years into his free agency and i remember back. Then people were like. Oh he's crazy. Friedman is nuts and it worked out for that stretch of that contract is longoria was very good. They got to a world series. You know what. I mean so in tampa which is now. It's only happened twice. So i think that if you can identify that player that i think you make that move. I think it's smart. Can't imagine can you guys aren't glad you imagine real quick somebody coming to you and your twenty two years old and you've made half a million dollars and you've already become a superstar and they say to you. Look we wanna sign you for fourteen years at three hundred whatever. The numbers are plus million dollars. Right like you're a kid you're like a child and somebody's gonna give you three hundred plus million dollars and the next fourteen years of your life are planned out so to speak. That's a monster monster commitment. We're talking about it from an organizational standpoint thinking about the individual player like damn man fourteen year. I'm going to be thirty. Five twenty two. That's a long ask commitment and that is a lot of money and it is a no brainer. because if you're gonna put three hundred plus million dollars in front of my face right now. And i'm a kid making five hundred grand. Signed done for sure. Let's go to hector. Hector what's up. Hey guys. I wanna touch base in aska elsie. Why he's been so hard on lately. I just recently moved down to san diego. Cyber listened to cap and his his material is actually pretty legit kind of noticing a little bit of a has been kind of bullying capital bit. You hear that material. L z legit material. Thank you. We're just trying to tell them. And there's more to the tino culture the narcos. Yeah i mean without. When i would have to agree you gotta do a little bit more. You're in san diego. Many gotta do a little bit more but Then the lakers stuff out. Oh man i think this is going to forge the lakers Through a fire and the the nba is not going to want to watch to deal with the latest. If they come out of this healthy with a healthy lebron and healthy surrounding core by the time whenever he's ready. Are you worried at all about eighty or no. You're you're good with it. You know what i it's i am. I am worried just because it is a killer related. I mean we saw we. Also what the black mamba went through You know K d went through last year Thank god he's back on the court but Yeah i'm worried i wouldn't say that but You know just gotta kinda let them rested rested up eight. Thanks appreciate it buddy. Stay healthy stay safe. And we're giving cap hard time because this is what happens when you're the rookie on this right. Listen believe me. Let me tell you something right now. Let me explain something everybody. I've been in the radio business and today's my birthday fifty one. I've been in the radio business for twenty five years. It's ridiculous. I can't even believe it like twenty five years ago about not fourteen years right. There's no way twenty five years ago said to me you'll still be in the radio business twenty five years later right now man. I'll beyond that other thing. You weren't talking about fernando tutsi senior back right exactly. Let me tell you something. Thick thick thick skin. see what. 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Quarantine Is Getting The Best Of Us

Mickstape: The Barstool Basketball Podcast

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Quarantine Is Getting The Best Of Us

"The Game Saints One. Two slain remains the best kept secrecy. You went platinum in the game. So I I get to see you just the two of us. That's right being hor for money. Now listen I'll never stop being over from. I want this on the record on the record with the war I move. I made the grave mistake of moving my table so my microphone nod did the thing. I don't know why you did. That now. Knows a grave mistake. But it's fixed it's remedied. We're here now. We just got A one on one tournament bracket tweeted out by are fine friends over at the action sports network. Okay sixty four players. Hp basketball just tweeted out. I just quote tweeted it. That's probably the easiest place to find it. The region noted one on one extraordinaire. I don't know how that's the first thing I saw to. The top right is for some reason the first place I looked. Sure a lot of players on Fred vanfleet certainly. Certainly there must've at a better way to get sixty four players on this Sam though you could put a Lamelo on here now. This may need to be redone. Jaren Jackson Juniors on hair. Genentech's doing a fine player. Not Someone I wanNA watch a one on one tournament will listen Jimmy Butler making light work of them so you watch him for long and then promptly losing the Lou will in the next round. Deanne vers ban. This is unfair and bledsoe in the same bracket. Who made this re Patino Gordon Hayward Averse Russell Westbrook is is an option on this? Oh boy the vert versus Shea. That's a good. That's a very good eight. Nine Karl Anthony towns. You talk about Melanin. Listen I'll say artists on twitter. I'll say it here. I got mellow all the way in the finals. You talk about a man who's played nothing but one on one for upwards of seventeen years now I will say this. I saw this peak mellow than yeah going on a run. Ben Simmons. Simmons might win it. Just what the defense and he can actually like the backup. You're not spacing for team defense. Hell Hell screen. My thing is is this tournament with traditional ones and twos as all one on one ever has been played has to be right action. They were just what threes and fours mid-range shots. Don't count the mellows out. I'd say I withdraw. My Mellow Simmons goes on a run here to be quite honest. Where's he bottom right? He's in the Jaanus. Region is three fourteen. Danilo Gallon are okay. 'cause I probably probably plays Jamal. I feel like gemologist built better for one on them Brandon Ingram. I don't know that length would help are quite a bit yet. See that I don't think either. One's been simmons all right. That's what I'm an so then. They'll tell he's going on a run. He's playing Chris. Paul I would imagine Chris Paul out of out of that for some. It's Chris. Chris Middleton give me a break. Anthony Davis lamarcus Aldridge. Michael Middleton over Paul Chris Paul wearing a Celtics Jersey would ever be angels tried Lord knows angels dried. Don't think I'd go. Middleton is not just like well. Paul's good middleton big no Middleton's also good is I'm gonNA member on ten over seventy one one tournaments. I feel like handles are are the second most important to being able to shoot. I didn't see I don't even if I would say shootings number one. That's why Simmons because it's like you people are GonNa be in your face regardless the shot matters less than a handles. I could see being very important right but handles that's why like he can get The four feet away where he's comfortable. That's why he's my sleeper to go on a run having looked at exactly twenty five percent of this breath. Yoga do yoga will get a tired immediately. And just stop caring. He'd be out nap at even if he just goes on the post. Just lean on your couple times. You heard well. Yeah everyone alive would be heard. And that's what I'm saying. That's what he is one of those again. He'd probably just completely. I'll get a hand up but I'm so big if you try to come near me at all. I'm just GONNA monthly expensive dinwiddie. Does some good at probably Bradley Builders Buddy? He'll that's a great for thirteen porzingas. I arose and how much money would you have to be paid to watch that? I WATCH UPPING PORZINGAS. Might get busy. Yeah that's eleven seed getting. The win drew holiday. Tj War the match up we were all anticipating gotta go through their Kevin Durant being number. Two is hysterical. I mean I think he wins at all. I'm saying even even to a wilander because Kyrie irving is a number two embiid. Anthony Davis better than all those Steph. Curry is like a five. Yeah woody bracket so you might wanna run to Hardin region. Now I think he loses immediately. Lou will now that you'd be Louisville bad mattress firm Honestly anybody else. He I tell you what I'd like. This is another five I would like to its Zion verse. Dare I went to see Zion. Lou will no idea what will go on really anything could happen. Yeah like Westbrook could goes against shooting dead matters. I okay you just GonNa play them from three no well. Here's what here's why I ask those the two verse one thing if it is that that's where shooting becomes paramount. Because if if you are a Simmons or Westbrook Broken. It's like that Guy. It's not one extra point it's double the amount of points then when I just score one I'm so good defensively. I'm really not even worried about the and Westbrook type. It's one on one case. But Definitely Simmons from Simmons. I'm like I wouldn't be worried about that at all. You're you're not going to get enough clean. Threes or twos off to make that matter. Kevin Durant well. We should be too correct winning this entire. I obviously under the assumption. Everyone here is healthy but yet Kevin. Durant is winning this. You beat Kawada yes boy. It was doing it last year and the previous years now. We'll how many games did he play? In last year's royal I like many got hurt and then like the last thirteen ministry right. Yeah that was and look they. They won that game tatum. My slick too big durant out a share won't Jalen Will Barton. Wow that's a rough draw for a will through it is but that's that's sneaky. My favorite match violate entire first. Round will inverse Luca Dodge because well Biden for sure thanks substantially better than Luke Dodge and. He's not so just a wash. That play out would be tremendous. That's what I want to Dame. I the Ngelo Russell Angels' like this is basically me play myself and I lose by ten. What happened here under my yet. Dame I I feel like dame makes ron here runs right in the Kawai Leonard. Awhile might be durant. I don't see it. He's bitter defensively more efficient offensively. I don't think efficiency really comes into play with one comes on intuit even more. I need you to hit that shot. Because you might not get the ball discounts durant defensively to like durant. Just ask him any way longer in many quiet quiet linnet has to defensive player of the Kevin. Durant doesn't have any all defensive teams. There's a big gap devolve. Defense isn't exactly like we've talked about. How dumb those votes are all the time. Yeah you know. None of them very yeah. That's dumb we both agree. Should he'd been shorted. No defense player the years though. No that's different. That's different plan. That's a different caliber of I think at this point might be a better efficient wise shoot. Maybe from everywhere. I don't know who is really scary. Stroke is in the room like I don't know if you've got a notice like if if Durant A. Plus offensively what's Hawaii. Eight has eight and the miners. Okay in April defensively was durant like bb. Plus I was thinking more B plus a minus somewhere between there mind. You Ain't got no second teams my guy that's not Maga smart guy. I any accolade last year. That's the only reason has been the league up until now doesn't he? Got One derived mentally ten years. Have a single one and it's been about even trying for about four years like you didn't lock down for ten years. No definitely it was before Leonard Defendu. Nope that wasn't was but my Life C. Plus just trying to picture Kawai We we talk about before a game especially offensively when he's playing one on one just so methodical and slow and then just waiting to get that that little pocket to rise up and shoot that long to mid range. I don't know where that's like. What move is he gonNA breakdown durant with to get that space? The same way he do to literally everybody much better defended than Kevin durant because he's so wide and they're about like they're about the same length is not like durant really had like limp for sure. Nova should apply like wings. That's choas Guadalupe. You're not GonNa get close to me 'cause I'm so wide I'm going to keep your mind hip. You'RE NOT GONNA get gray so and he has lent to. So that's why it's I don't think that helps durant as much as it would verse literally anybody else. It's not as much as helps durant as much as it's click. That's not everyone else. Who Co is rising up on? I we were talking about other people. Being almost same like is has that advantage of everyone else. Now it's not exactly a disadvantage but it's just negated. There's no advantage at all. I just don't think it's going to be like outlook efficiency. I get that but it's not like this. If this was Jaanus jaanus defensive capability and Atlanta out of grief but this Makuwaza scoring on long as it. Don't make all defensive team head. Damn right per game Cole. Issues better from to shoot the exact. Same percentage from three. Yeah we'll go Y and Arabi chokhin in the playoffs. Yuck at the they both have the semifinals. Ap's in one of them didn't go join the gang to to get to the people respect more than either one address too he coming out of that region next one noviny look to Lebron James Commodities. Correct it'd be Lebron versus. I believe Kyri in the final of that region. Stop neither of them as to be interesting. Kyrie verse Paschal Siaka. That just feels like okay. There's a guy who has enough lint on both ends it would just be interesting matchup Spin like a top repeatedly but on defense would see. I can get them all day. Yeah I think that's one of those trading ones for two scenario just like hey one twelve six Siachen mezzanines shots not style guy. Where you Fall apart noted. Joe Got Scary having your own team. You'll get the jobs. Steve Cargo shot off a better player. Congrats BUT FOR SURE. Lebron's that long. I'm slick tip to go. Simmons in this re- even we jaanus but won't those two eighty. That's a rough bracket. I'm my still go eighty Okay it settled. Ab is tough deliberation. Now listen he can. All these guys are pretty similar. He can pretty much do just enough of everything he can shoot just enough by just enough plus defender all that for one on one. I think he could is one of those like the shooting with matter until you come up against somebody who can take advantage of it. Antedates can take advantage degree of Eight? Did play on us. I would take eighty in this one on one but he's not going to get you on so that's a real shame who's going down to Mellow. No seriously are mellow hesitant. Will Be Andy Davidson wet. No Jaanus and then Anthony Davis one. There's not a single year that would have been true. Input HIS SHOULDER. Directly Zion. I'll November. This is winning in the first round. You've got derrick rose over no that's a terrible like what Zion going to do here. Fuck you like look like. He doesn't do that in the NBA. Why would he need to shoot threes? I don't know how like how he's GonNa do. He puts his answer to the other guarantee. He's next to the best he can but he also gets the ball path like he's not taking it from the top of the like he gets to him down there. Derrick rose locking up the same for sure. I just like it's a bigger guy trying to dribble. It has a smaller guy on the Typically doesn't work in one on one date grows scorn appointed often as either. That's not true. Zion dared rose now. If we're talking about prime versions all these guys the Prime Derek Rodier. He would be twelve so he had no. I'm taking five neither so I canceled that part. I agree with but we're talking about these guys right now like. I don't think I don't know why he's five. He's the same seat of Steph Curry. Feels lots of things making sure work thing. Now Derrick rose to is he actually can't shoot like primed arrows. Couldn't he would have allowed this year. One percent this year. He's not suit and his last last year when he was in the forties wasn't it was it was. I am Williams. The maybe the Best Athlete. We've literally ever. Seen Gore knows was having shoes explode duke at thirty one last year. Thirty seven year before twenty. Five twenty three twenty two twenty nine before that one good year. Don't make you a good shooter to say. At least to be a one year thirty seven I needed least too Kentucky. Do you think towns gave him back down mellow now. He would he be one of the ones like you come out and play defense and metals. Like no he's like okay. I will shoot. I'll just check up and shoot. Old Man McDonald Dominican ties. Be Dan on how far Aaron Gordon has and Gordon go on where they get all without question about Puerto Rican because he flat whatever it is is going to be A. It's got the Big Star or equality bloodshed the bashing the boots. Paul George GonNa run this. This is right up his alley. The is he would slick come so you. You have the air and over Bam interesting if you keep talking about these big guys special Versatile defenders like that. How how Darren's going to score is he working with drew Allen Right before the statement starts Lord? I hope not. Do you think Plato gives embiid trouble said the smaller. Yes do you think he beats them? No but I do think he gives them. I think it's close big. It'd be swallowed Walkman. I'd lose the Paul Georgia though doesn't interesting. Yes that I agree with the show. Paul Paul George I think is the sneaky player in this. Not really that sneaky but like probably win it off raining. I seem all agree. A weird how top fifteen player last episode. So I guess things but yeah alley. Six eight has the handles and can shoot from everywhere and is like you said I'll world defender again. That's that's terrifying. Don't say that that could be hard. That's what he needs to run up against the Nazi. Exactly what he would run begin. then mccollum's interesting like. I would like to watch that good at the some cloud battles so Jaylen trae you would take trae. Yeah defensive I feel like Jalen going right dog. He's Jalen Jalen cans score. That's thing I think Janet will be going to the rim and I think trait can get open shots on just get a little bit of distance. And he he's such a quick release Got To be quick Ten Times you might get them slipping a couple wasn't you'd think I WANNA pick trae. Yes Tobias Harris. We think John will be Tobias. Harris Tobias Harris as such a good. I would go to Tobias Vegas. I will go to bias Tobias as big as hell but he might just miss all fucking shots like I don't never i. You don't know what to be Fair John. Might to buy will be fire. And we'll see a million highlights of Tobias. Here's one yeah. I'll take the bias there. Would you go over Kimba now? I wouldn't I mean route. Can you do man guys? Five eight. Another was not jump over the Sunday paper. Another one can listen the Sunday's thick addition. I don't know I I know the afternoon bulldog as clear that with relatives. No now. They'RE BUMMY. I seen you got U-b-e-r making around here. I think you can make some noise is see knocks off number once Lebron James. I think if you ask both of you put them in separate isolated soundproof rooms and you ask them hooked up to a lie detector Aaron Gordon in One Room Kelly oubre and the other think both of them would say. Aaron Gordon Verse. Kelly oubre in the finals. You know we've already got one hundred grand. The suicide pact with one of US fails to reach it. We will kill each other with a hoosier final four durant Lebron and like I genuinely believe mellow makes a run. I just genuinely believed that in my heart of hearts that I've been doing for so long he did it once in college. You're lucky you're if Jamal Crawford were in one of these other brackets. I'd have him in the final four thirty Abia Badge through. There are just certain players. I watched them play especially when I lost some plan in the summer. I'm just like Oh yeah that guy all he does play one. That's it like if if if Kyrie were in almost any other region than lebrons I'd have filed a one on one because they're not good enough to play that Anthony Davis Jaanus types it so you got mellow in the final four. I Louisville in the final. Four as well guys who wins. Mela will mellow who wins. Katie Lebron Katie. Katie Mellow Hurts Carmelo. Yeah so basically the eighty yeah basically basically the the Agnello and then advanced version of mellow came around for years later. Yeah mellow good mellow. I'm GONNA Hawaiian Lebron. I mean you've got to pick Cole either a D. and Paul George George pick up on our part Georgia GONNA run Eighty Jordan. Eighty bronze good one. The brand is Lebron A. D. I. Braun is just enough of everything that not only debt at a plus level by take away. The passing doesn't matter right. They're good at like everything else probably have to be I. Would I would really enjoy watching Lebron gay and that's That tree that summer runs that trio just playing actual gang court Lebron Katie and Kawhi just go and added for an afternoon. That's that's something I would watch trying to see if I'm selling hardened short just because he really is going thirty five points a game. He's a big as like six five. Seven foot wingspan in razor wanted. I don't sound like one on one phases wild strong. He'd be really good one. I just think he I think he just got a bad bracket. Honestly there's also no shot clock so he can just keep dribbling until you just finally just like take a breath him and he just goes by you. Get the game point he he's the tired evades AIDS Blake Griffin. He beats whoever mccollum Dinwiddie is and then he would play like the FCA if he gets Jimmy Butler there which he wouldn't. But if Jim J. Beyeler Somehow Megan's Butler their butlers triple J. He's still small. Why is Jerry Butler? Irc staff I make the bracket I mean games Steph. Curry played like five six. So that's all it took was one. Save the staff not bland. Be like nine seat at best. I think I remember listen. We've got him tied with the literal number. One pick of this year's like those guys are the two time. Mvp The fat kid. Basically the same thing would either teammate. Battery ZION FOR STA. Yeah. I don't think of Newell I really. I don't think Oakland I don't think San Francisco would New Orleans might man by listen as he projects to be great but he's very big now. I don't think he'd WanNa make it. I don't think either of them. Do I have to think of if I'm I feel like I'm more ready to say golden state would make a New Orleans? Now see I think steps steps one of their like. We will go down with the ship with him like right or wrong. I don't think they would trade. He's also he's old but not that I don't think he's old enough to make it like if he was three years older. I think it's much tougher. Be Like just comes back and he's just got more peak years like the Jersey sales have big ears internationally already. I think they would just we're Google Zion. Could get there. He could have a big belly. We'll take the we'll take this year. Well the clippers straight. Paul George resigned. Yes wandered into right. What if he was just like I'm indifferent I would would you especially since we just talked about like. They can both be gone next year. I can't go anywhere for three years. I man I I wonder if he's going to be. He's going to be like yeah. I already know I'm ready. To get out of New Orleans. I'm not even GONNA play through this second contracts so you have He's clutch right. Oh no they turned it down. That's why Lebron Haysom Klay. I can't imagine Klay giving us shit tournament like this. Winter gets twenty eight grams. Clay we talking whatever kind of gas we're looking at. If he could physically see the the patch on the on the court Maine's he's got everything else can klay dribble and up to one and one on one turn. No No. He's got the defense and obviously can shoot. But that's Kinda like the what I was saying about Zaire but for three point shooter like clay thrives off getting the ball past and then go right up with it. They can both do their own things without people. I just think Zion if he just checks ball and turns around. He's in his motion. Klay Got A. I can't run myself off a screen. This is I feel like durant so partly built for this turnament for like a scene Brian James players see I really. Don't I really what I see? Gladys not obviously is incredible. Just one on one player. He's not someone who immediately sprints to live because of how methodically place I think even make like he's program to be whatever needs to be. I think that's why he fits even better. He can every single thing at a plus level you just added it over the years and his ability just one on one defensively would carry him until he got to Lebron James. It's really just Paul George Katie. Luella Kyri so yeah. Maybe there's about six. Those guards would have a hard time like actually sealing the deal and winning at all when they got that final round but the first three. Four rounds yeah. I don't think they have much problem. I think it'd be again. Lou will sound like he gets Jimmy Butler who's got about. What like forty pounds minimum. He thought he doesn't have a bang with him offensively. He doesn't want to know for sure but I just scoring Jimmy Butler is not like a highlight. I don't I don't think a lot of these guys are also like as disciplined to be like. I'm just that's where ally is like. Why does have a sized mismatches like okay? I'll just simply back this man down for my eleven and then that will be that a lot of these other guys are too susceptible to talk shit and being like you can't shoot from there and you just you just give up possession because you just lodged a bad three that all of a sudden. The other guy gets the ball. Newly launched a bad three Kawhi Leonard. Right right why are you gonNA lose to Kevin Durant and his pockets man Utah? Tony Allen was in there. He thought Chris was in their track a wide Leonard. The Raptors do bless. You wasn't working too well. Who won the the beat the Durant? La's warriors yes who fought that appears at the Golden State Warriors who decided comeback after two week. Layoff late Eighteenth Street minutes. I thought that was a good idea. Now really I feel fine Attached by dental floss. I can go out there and play in the NBA. Finals gets this generation's best defender quickly. And I know of ashes before if he doesn't get hurt so he doesn't care. They win the series. Where's he plan right now? Thanks Tom Brooklyn interest. I think because that's the thing I i. It sounds like like March February February was when Katy Perry were just like yeah. We're a thousand percent playing together and then marched like Dad taught. They agreed on New York. They haven't agreed on the team. So that was that was healthy then and in his mind probably already chocked up that ring. He was like yeah. I'M GONNA win three for the Place de. I don't care what you do in Boston. You can blow that shit up as far as I'm concerned wheel he's like we're going to that division next year so let's just cause a little bit of chaos there and then will will deandra. You're involved in this for some reason. Then Ha you can scout the next from everything that's been reported. They were locked in to the Knicks. Until De'andre it was like only thing I wonder is if like the exact same by bald account. Kawai went down the list of people and got the Paul George. If he just calls Kevin Durant I was like. Let's just go to the clippers. I think durant thanks like even though he's like listen carry on. He probably is like listen. Would you go to? La Gifts I'll just tell them to get all of us right and they'll just have to make it happen but if I think durant is just enough like basketball freak is just like if you just WANNA run a couple of La. I think would listen. It's interesting but he did and all this stuff. I was looks funny. We make jokes until after the fact when it turns out to be like. Oh yeah that was true. Like he had already moved his whole studio operations. Shit to New York now. I don't. I've never moved a business to another city. I don't know how like heavy of move. That is or if it can be like. It's just pivot back to la where we already were. You know what I mean like I don without his do. I think it's rich. It either him or somebody was already either with Brooklyn like regardless so that felt like it makes it makes sense if he's going there but it also made sense if he doesn't like to my opens up a New Yorker L. A. Wherever you're at it. Kinda just makes sense so that didn't it didn't throw too much but I do think it'd be interesting if Katie was like yet because Katie. I think he's also the type of yeah. We played with the clippers. I don't really care about the state us about to play for the Knicks. Got Bad news. I don't think he cares cared. About like the actual franchise. I do think it was like where am I comfortable living and I think he wanted to play with a friend and I don't think any good wire on bad terms like the friends otherwise friends so I'd listen. I didn't think so either until looking. Impala Georgia Front uses like I. I saw a different department is worth eight right. I think that's all I think he'd listed a bunch of players whose games like he probably Michael Jordan on that list get him. I'm but a bay but yeah that'd be fucking terrifying if a healthy durant and Kawai linked up. I'm trying to I feel like they. They could have made a happy right like all. Three of those guys were free. I would have to treat everybody else foot which you do it. Only if they would have had to get rid of Louisville Herald Zoo bought. I think they might even pay Zubec- this summer so I yeah and then you just sign all three here. That'd be something. Yeah would each Julian Wonka recovery at that point? I mean it's one of those. I went durant. If she said he got his little brother. Play got his little brother. Blais vitamin GOODEN terrifying again. Get Lebron like what the fuck come on the days. Get some friends. What are you know could more? You know a lot. Jiechi shitting brother. I've got it door opens up its Marquis teague. I'm like your old manly. My head just eats his head but I like people people were cooling under et saying like and this was obviously posed injury too. So I think it'd be gone to Brooklyn. They had been like a one-seat this year healthy him in Kyri. He would have clearly been the one bear. I don't think I think more people would have been giving him more credit. If you just left the warriors to link up with Co y Leonard the do people like him more or less if they still lost the fight like say he got hurt but it wasn't Achilles. It was like a hamster like he's out for this series but he's he won't Miss People from opening day this year. Do people look him any differently. Laws were but wouldn't that hurt while you weren't back in. He has to. He's going to get shit kind of regard now. Yeah but no one gives me shit for losing that S Kazini. Here wait till we get. We get the chance to yell at the guys tuned to the finals. Where like what you yeah. I don't know so there wasn't a terrible injury. I don't know anyone who holds it like I do for like Paul. George couldn't even lift his arms and we were given that guy hell like a it really has to be like a oh well known injury and be catastrophic on top of that for you to get a pass even. There's no matter what Paula Jones. That's one thing we've already decided in. Harlem is what it is. Kyrie's good forever. No matter what he does now. He's good forever. Maybe should. I'm okay with that too but yet clippers Denver so God Damn Good Dad. That's on the one that makes Houston Kinda just because Like if Paul had to go some minor Chris Paul. Getting traded to the warriors would be very funny. Because I like the Angelo trae. We had to get something man who couldn't walk for nothing Steph. Curry is like the Hannibal Bursts Picture. Where he just like this sucks. Tried me absolutely anywhere fucks. Do you buy gift guide. Deb Just want to link up with Katie. Thank he would have considered elsewhere. That like would he have gone to the nets. That's why I don't think so. I think I really do think he was always one of the two. I think he's leading the Toronto or the Still now how big the Lakers was. Because even go to the clippers you think he goes back to the raptors the Lakers. I like he goes back to the raptors even short term because he's still signed short tribe every yeah two-plus-one wherever you signed now or does he go the Lakers. I don't know if I've ever really bought it up but I never really thought they would means the. Dan didn't seem like I'm GonNa go join the Brian James a type of guy so I think it was. GonNa be Toronto or clippers because the Messiah was like you cannot treat for like Paul George Anne Russell. Westbrook ear if we did that would you stay and I feel like it probably ended up breaking down but I think yeah. I think he'd still be in Toronto. Probably no I think Messiah was like I'll just trade for Paula George But then for some reason okay. So he was like no. You have steak Westbrook to. They didn't have them call with with the clippers for some read. Listen to get tough with Paul George. Exciting Messiah was simply will not take both of those knuckleheads On this team man. But listen you talk. He wouldn't give up see YOK Which rightly before In the East Team Kawagoe Georgia in Russell Westbrook Gaddi be sick could grief I. They just have a boxer. They said Yeah. That's the favorite unaware. Yeah is that the Labor is Katie and Kyrie Goto the clippers. Yeah you take raptors team over his Katie hurt him with Mothers up comments assume he was healthy. Okay it'll be a raptors team with Kawai. They traded from Paul George Russell Westbrook within that they had up Siachen so those are the main three. Hey you know they they had to give to give up Siachen invariably they still got like us. All Baka Tarento Davis. Td if this year og would be. Healthy Larry McCall cobble together bit. Then the clippers will be Katie. Educating Kyrenia with everyone ever Paul George but if they could just sigh on those two by team they had last year with West. Shay Yeah like at that point you get to keep Shea so you Katie candidates last year or you take the finals winning team wipe out Siaka Paul George and Russell Westbrook. Yeah I'm sure they would have had to give up other like probably Gusau or someone else for the money like how they had to throw in Danilo especially since it was fucking not just follow your his contract onset. Westbrook's money would have been norm Powell. I'll tell you they wouldn't come off one of the bigs but I'm sure Katie Kyri would have had like Danilo in someone traded for another piece too but that's 'cause I gotta go clipper you're just dropping those two onto. I don't understand what's happening. Katie is worse than Kawhi in this one on one tournament. But all of a sudden. He's he's goes to the clippers and they're just watching the rappers. What's happening here? 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Dak rivers but like the way I see it like the clippers would have the best player here durant and then the raptors would have the next to at least maybe three if they have Westford westbrook first. Kyrie's interesting because we got to see like Westbrook's best formed this year and we didn't out or is best for them this year but I I could see either side of it and then I don't know the badges are pretty close. Yeah that was the question. Now you're like what the hell you think durant. Yeah well that's goes against what you're saying before? I just think that I would pick the Paul George will show up so it's tough but yeah I've I've been under the belief for several years now. Durant is the best player on earth. So if he'd just fully healthy I'm GonNa be picking him a lot but I do think Toronto. It'd be like the betting favorites. Took right for the broad as now you're on the conversation. I was like Damn. Why has the old man that washed? I didn't even get it in these calls anymore. But he called me to be traded. Anyway they are. Waiters keeps calling. May I keep hanging up yeah? I should've thought that evidence shows. He's not even happy to see him. Like whatever do you over that? Yeah get your locker away from me stupid. I don't even. What would their next move? Even beat the Lakers. You Lebron James and Eighty Christopher starting to Boston. Uh this happened well. Hey listen I never saw myself in Denver? Let's make the best of his that where he could go to make things interesting. Denver who eighty no both of them? I guess what's the our like. You can't just be getting players from all over the lake. What's the team? You could put those two odd to combat those two teams. We just built this day. Eleven of corn. And if Lebron James Dick could shoot three pointers like forty six percents team. I can and I mean Shit. The warriors like put the Brian. James Anthony Davis on the warriors. It dre mind Clay Steph. Act. There's your champion I don't care what anybody or la that's NBA. Champion is pretty good. Pretty Damn good by our guys got swap. Kevin durant leaving good news bringing Lebron Eighty to replace bad news ruining the Lee. Yeah I'm trying to think that's a good one for sure. Good one I was trying to think philly but it for sure not better than the warriors. Now it was interesting Milwaukee Milwaukee would be those just those top three good grief. Janas is the third best player on his team while still wins. Mvp somehow heard wing. Antetokounmpo melted like. This is sick. I'm so open Georgios op. Never I'm never GONNA cover to shoot seventy two percent in six attempts healthy attempts. What about Trying to think of is good last time basketball is played which was several years ago. I'm thinking beating Golden State Denver's interesting though. Yeah I'll think that's better than Milwaukee though. I don't know it might be because the depth one the depth in too late adding. Adp fixes whatever defense of questions you have about Denver was. I don't think you have many questions when we started doing these. Gary hairs at the corner. Three listen if he gets you exactly thirty six point five percent on open. Threes is GONNA work. 'cause I didn't gonNA work. I got another fake hypothetical question in a different sport. I don't know if I'm doing real questions tonight. But if we know right now hindsight was twenty twenty. Dave knows exactly how good sign would be right now. Does it change what he does at all. I don't think so secret when he made the decision. Yeah he was like No. I wished well but if it was like this good like immediately this fat. Yeah I also also have everybody. Everybody did he got traded for basically took that leap now but just Zion now. I don't think it does. I think he's tired of living. In New Orleans like tired of not living l. a. How writing the They would just underway right. I don't he'd be like this. Be Sick can we move the franchise? Is that an option why we tried that rich checking people anything short that yet now. I'm out no fence to anyone but I'm out here because it was it was you will push for that. The hardest in real time. Let's have this laker season. Worked out. They jailed quicker than I thought they would. Much I think Lebron having to play his ass off because he offended The entire nation of China helped beat gays. But let's if they still they wouldn't have ingram they wouldn't have wouldn't have heart but boy if they had drew. Anthony Davis IN ZION IS. We knew signed to be right now. It pretty good. That's horrify deaf. Especially if eighty resigns long-term he's like yeah. I wanted to play with them for the next five years. One Thing if Zion says yes to clip changes thing because that point bridge populi wait a minute to will be nice. Listen the old man's on his way out of these guys here in New Orleans and then have them both traded to L. Right. Yeah in three years so when old. Man's Gone Ben Simmons Tatum Damian Lilly Squad League somehow the least Insane thing we've said so far tonight. Is that interesting it can happen? What's what's your real question. That's Shirley on the second me about quarterback as to do a quarterback's brother wouldn't Washington do with the cardinals did last year? I think they're thinking about it. What could they do? You think they could get for hashing I they. They kind of waited a little long with all these other teams. I think it'd be similar to what happened to Rosen. Let's see what a third fourth I think it was a four. That's really disgusting. Ask Miami second out now for Miami Second Round. Sixty two would say. Use This Lake Isabella in twenty twenty fifth round. Pick so a second fifth those more than I remember a lot more than I remember but Rosen's even like taking a higher in his respective draft. He was asking also had a bit of rookie year. Then rose by virtue of not having the worst years. It's like Alex Smith I Yeah I don't know I don't know what they could get. It was second on a fifth. Yeah so maybe just like one third. Yuck but it might even be more beneficial because it is to. Obviously we don't know aware his but if it is to you just take him and playhouse again. This year obviously talked to alikes. Take the year. You're GONNA arrest Play Haskins this year and especially if you're getting shit deals for him now be like all right well if he plays any improves. Now it's like an actual chip we can dangle out that see there's I think they can do it without even plan like what I think too is. Bike set to be good. Yeah by the time. This a couple of years he was cleared for. He's been cleared for all football. Seventy so I imagine if things were normal he will be proceeding is normal so even then I would still if the offer was a second and a fifth I might withhold haskins anyway like again. Just wait till the somebody's GonNa get hurt. Somebody will overreact and again worst comes like a second and a fifth. I'm willing to wait if that turns into a third. Nfl now like right. I wash it still. Hasn't even figured out how Trent Williams so I don't even know if they can pull this off. Adam Rivera's pretty competent. I really hope that they're gonNA be competent. May I doubt Kyle Allen? I don't hate that late with a fifth round. Pick for some like I don't for a guy that you know he's got actual game like ten twelve games out on online that God awful e. It's sad that's what I'm saying that he had like enough of a run. He still young enough to where it's like okay even as my long-term back yeah. I'll give it a fifth of that. I'm getting some absolutely troublesome news on guides the next Patriots quarterback Joe Andrew now own is. Now it's better than that but not much Grogan he's GonNa say who back in the one four now. It's it's a team who absolutely revolted against this guy By all reports they got a new. Gm they got a coach. You hate them the GM just signed a quarterback. He very publicly outed five years ago. Too much more lucrative deal than I expected. It's Derek Carr What's the deal like a rumor deal? He could be available very available. He's available last year. I feel like I've been groomed. Got That job. I believe he's been Gruden fucking ahead of that guy they got to. I one of those two No okay all right. That would've sold me on. It got dark and I. I'm like fuck yeah. I mean for a fifth year now and this is Mike. Mia Facet on Mike. Mayock doubtful doesn't this guy took like the twelfth ragged and Like second last year where you might that was using on a pick to McMahon May I. I like I like I still like feral but to say you can't pull one over a traded down and God Farrell could not took him at all to also on the board. Yeah I didn't. I didn't hate that pick. It didn't play well so that doesn't help but I've heard from that's interesting. Because if I if they know they can get anything for Third Fourth whatever and they got to firs at that point. Yeah I'd go get two if you're well see that's the thing I think even Mary. I think there's believe in Marietta right where he signed for two years right. Yeah and it's like a like a option think so but it was like two years like some reason. The number seventeen million keeps popping up seventeen point six seven point five first year. I feel like I mean the thing is you could. If you have Mariota right now you can still very for two. Yeah definitely so I or their tagging for Lawrence. I wouldn't be in the businesses like you. You figure you'll get there and even if you can't if you not on I don't think they enough like I'm I just look at teams like chase trump. Really good Quarterbacks just always rise and it's like I get him number two there would be great but it's like I I like Haskins. He's not tour as a private. That's not claims. Rose I like Rosen. He's not keiler is oppressed with right. So you don't have your guy. Should you not address started three with with Detroit? Dozens of two there I would. They won't 'cause they have to win this year but when I'm in charge and several months after this team doesn't win this year. We Stafford Outta there. Would you take staff which draper staffer you just so much? Money it listen. You'll get a decent quarterback even Jacoby fifteen eighteen fifty shit. Can we talk about better than decamp? Sus sitting right that you just sign cam. I guess thanks. Apparently no one wants to up obvious then. I just don't understand quarterbacks who gotten hurt before you understand. Yeah but not this. Not Ones that you know you know what I mean. We're close tight freezing. I'll try to picture it obviously. This isn't a perfect comparison. But I'm trying to picture like this. Like two thousand eight going into two thousand nine like Brady and played all of a half in two thousand eight before. He tore his leg like he had to have been thirty by then had to have been because I was only twelve years old. He's forty six. Now yes yeah using his thirties. That and coming off a knee injury. Imagine being like each going to release this guy got hurt dot like even like the only reason it felt like it was okay with. Peyton it was like. As neck man there. He said he couldn't feel his fingers. Yeah Plus Luck but yeah even paid one. Mvp IN AN NFL record. Iranian yeah and I had a great run of Denver. Two super bowls like I don't know if there's a rubric. Everything all the talk. If if every fan base became the Miami Dolphins when they had the opportunity to sign drew brees when it comes to camera. Now I don't unders. Yeah the only thing and I it had something had to been out before that he was more hurt than we think like. That's the only thing I can think of literally the only if it's like okay. Listen to shoulders is good but the foot is. It's too serious injuries. I get but now at this point. Where he's he's a freebase he's a freebase is very free. Like extremely free like Oh. I'm looking to draft needs now. Met If Washington. I don't think they would do it. But as I ron. Rivera Malcolm rebuilding revealed your value for a year. I saw a lot of people pointing to them. Getting Kyle Alan and said of Cam Newton as another negative for Cam. Newton had their choice. Nothing for care but right like if I'm the chargers right there the charges now I'd be all over the dolphins and I was not sold onto. I'd be all over pay. We did thirty minutes. Listen I WANNA keep doing it and until it happens until tonight Muslim what. Y'All got Brian or you're just just relax. It sounds like we got Derek fucking Gar. See if that's the case. If I'm the raiders. I do that. I would sign Outbid on Cam embiid with with twelve in nineteen. We can get two pieces to help him. Cook Right now. The chargers if they get to or if they don't they still don't have a quarterback oral offensive line. They're going to get one of those they're pick but they're not gonNA have the other one chiefs. Use broncos will be interesting. I like some of the stuff they did. We interesting with is like lane there for them to when a few cameras just healthy it twelve. You know one savers yet. What nineteen hasn't Gotten Henry Bras at twelve? It hasn't taken Jordan. But if they get out. One of those offensive tackles or divine law the defensive tackle or if they dislike OFI. Just take seedy and can because I feel like the raiders spend money in their offensive line last year. Drafted a running back. Yuck but he's good. Give them some receivers. You're giving nothing four can which isn't the only time. The raiders have ever been good Easy to clown on. But the only time they've ever been good is under the reign of Al Davis. What Al Davis do right now. It would sign cam and he would he would take rugs and duty or rugs and land without question he will he take rugs and whoever shot up. What are the like fourth round or like afford to sir? Cd LAMB as much. But I don't get it may Jalen Raga. I want I said not. And it's it's just one a camera Jersey would be sick. Oh buddy charges would be sick to get new ones so we don't now but I think they're going to the the light blues the base. Now I think I think the navy's out so hopeful strong at the better be by boyle. Yeah if it's six I just this mock I'm looking at now has Okuda there at seven. Which feels absurd but If I'm the chargers I signed Cam and I'd take either as Ahah Simmons or Okuda or the best offensive tackle one of those three and it's like no we're going to see if we can get right back to like football really as I. Okay I defense is finally healthy. Hopeful- hopefully we draft one of the offensive tackles. Dr One of the tackles because their defense is fine. Sign Cam nothing This is where the like I get. I get like so greedy. Like if Isaiah Simmons's that real deal which she appears to be and I just have him and Darwin amd Bosa and Ingram Especially WITH INGRAM BOASTS. I know those my anchors and Durham and Simmons on any given snap. I can put wherever the idea of trying to see now. Like do they have okay. They've got they've got their thirty seven year. They got their second and third round. Pick because again. I could see that. It's like okay. We're going to do that. But either second and third. We're going straight often to tackle or one of those for Trent Williams. Or what's right Ed? Trent Williams third. We're using another one and if a cude is there it's six. Are you kidding me? Just add him out there with Derwin or Isaiah. Simmons ed I will. We will not every other pickle go for the lab. We will not neglect the land. But now I get it because what happens like. I'm just picturing every time we go back and look at a wikipedia for like name any draft. That's like ten years ago and you always see someone it's like. Why did they take this? Linemen fizzle out of league in three years and then let's like four hall of Famer Skill Position Guys like right after that like eleven twelve. Jj War right is just. We took fucking Eric Flowers getting money. Man I'm really glad that he turned himself to like a decent guard. Great Yeah that Could Happen. But that didn't happen with the fucking team that didn't help the giants now not a little not even a little again. This manno we always gonNA put him a manifesto around the draft now on no but yet another part I'm trading back like between eight and twelve every for like the first three years just because eight through like you said. There's just always always somebody there because people reach early quarterback for at least three years. I don't care even if he's a job era even if he's I'm still getting my quarterback for lead maybe to think he's that special met but I'm not dragged can't do a year one and it depends on like how well your first crop of players looked year. One like how much of the salary gap you shedded and like comedy picture required for year two. If you've got three picks to like a Miami or like Oakland it's like yeah. We'll take that quarterbacks I can still I can use those other two to get back up into the top ten or I can just take those two goes deep draft like the US the choice between eight to twelve no lower than ten or twelve. I take the best either offensive lineman or defensive linemen. I like three years like the only team we've really I've really got to see start from. Scratch is the Texans and I feel like if they hadn't gone first overall David car like who knows a David Guys. Career probably goes a lot fucking better. Because he's not the most sacked human being in the history of Fidel. Tim Like I remember. I do remember the browns. The browns came back. I don't know okay. Yeah when they can't all Internet Gazette. Tim Couch and like Tim couch was bad. It was just like you. He was just thrown literally to the wolf's great by putting a quarterback. I can't think like a single even Mahal will now. He's Blair ever correctly. Like Wow mahomes says these expansion Timber Super Bowl. Somehow it really is but that's just like it's a waste of a pick. Yeah so it's like okay. I know that I've got like five. Guaranteed a tree bag and then with all the second third and fourth ahead. That's when I started taking like my non Latte that's when I started taking my receivers corners my lab bekker's my safeties that do like the first three like until. I get my quarterback like the browns all the jokes. They took a baker ends up being the real deal than they did. The right thing we is I went is real deal. Could head him they took the pigs dijon same thing took the picks got bigger and now they're putting stuff around him so long term is what they thought he was written. Look good move that that would be my ideal quarterback like years three and then it all day three. You're over those gone trained for the entire all pro roster. I still think the team that did it. The best and I don't know it can only be replicated. I don't know how to be topped is when the Vegas nights came into the NHL. And I know we've talked about them a little bit But they went into the expansion draft. They were like we won't take that player of yours. You GotTa send us pick the got us. Send us a pick. They send US something way around. We'll take their contract twelve. They're like you will like we won't touch that guy we will take that guy but you'll send us this to like sure. So yeah that and they I mean. They made the gut immediately. I think there are still pretty competitive. Knowing his Co. sports died but Yeah that was you could do that in the NFL. Both ways absolutely we already talk about teams just giving away callejas gamble teams is giving away really so imagine if you just drop an expansion team off and it's just like oh you're going to give that up anyways like send them here. Just send them here. The nights are in first place pretty good in their division as the the Golden Knights Yup distant nights. They've always been the Golden Knights people. Call them the nights. I like just on the nights. Bud Yeah that would be my like once I saw it with like the brock is widely. Trae it doesn't happen very much in the NFL. And it's like why would they gave up? Take Osweiler but here's a second round pick with a blade gladly right. Yeah do from up like expansion wise and then they give you so many picks as an expansion team. That's the part I didn't know don't don't they make it. You automatically like whoever has the most they give you one more. Isn't it something like that? No they give you down because I couldn't believe it could not believe it may not like fourteen or something. It's they give you okay so you get the first overall pick pretty good that yeah they give you a second rounder in the forty five to fifty range like an extra one so you say yes. Yeah you got your regular second. So you've got three picks in the top fifty they give you a third in the seventy five eighty range. They give you one in the one to one sixteen range extra fifth extra six extra set in the very last pick fifteen. Yeah no I mean Seattle. I think failure. 'cause you don't get an extra. I but you get three seven's it sounds like yes you three yet. Yeah so you end up with. I two seconds two thirds to force to V. Six and three seven's that's before you trade anything right and there's no rule where it's like you can't trade one right now. You can definitely drive one. Then yeah you can buy. You're an idiot if you use one. And that's what I'm saying unless it was like a I couldn't even say if it was like a to my thought was generational does like now because it's like I really like myles Garrett but I still traded that year like you just buy them a lot. He's good and he's going to be good like I'll I'll bet on what I get. It tended twelve lewitt draft. Was he twenty seventeen. Sixteen or seventy. I know there's one right before Baker right seven two. Yeah so Garrett one one eight okay eight. Mccaffrey nine John Ross. Ten Patrick mahomes eleven marshon. Lattimore twelve Shawn Watson Listen I think myles Garrett East tremendous I get one of those guys and some extra picks I'll take homes and another two. I got three twos. Now Yeah I that is my line. Let's end in the next year your second year as an expansion team they give you an extra third fourth fifth to six in two sevens. So you're one into our select just whatever and then two of everything else and I like. All the draft value added UP FOR THE FIRST YEAR. They give you. It's equivalent to them. Just hand you the twentieth. Picking the Dryer in the second year is like the sixty second pick in the draft. Yeah and if our trade back from one to ten my first three I'm only picking up extra second third and fourth 'cause again enough to six and seven on the I got plenty of those on betrayed knows for veteran players right but I won't want as many. I don't care whether I want as many second third and fourth. That's why I'm getting all my receivers tied ins anybody but my lines. I'm using first round for only my lines until I find my quarterback I have so much Did matter what year he comes in. That's what I mean at that point. If you like if it is the Garrett draft I may be comfortable taking my homes if I know I have all these other books and all these other no he will he will be ready to Twenty twenty six. You may not even start 'em off the bat but I but I might take the you know what I mean. It's like one Someone else is going to go out there and die. For your sins to your. We're fucking ready to go yet. That's like again right now like when I write the manifesto. It's going to be like if I was doing things right. Now there are decent quarterbacks available right now by van needed somebody to start a season for me thousand expansion franchise you could do worse than James Winston expansion franchise and he just started with Cam. Newton even injured won like eight. Us Was Jersey sales like minimum. Like you get that if he works in like again in the meantime. We're not draft a quarterback to your two or three deaths. So if he works he's just our guy like some of these people. There are some times where Montana goes to the chiefs in sometimes. Peyton manning goes to the Broncos brees went to the saints. Yeah bye guys can change. It's crazy in this man's Lee. Free Rides hotel stays airline miles restaurants. You get excited about that. 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Crushed me doing doing stocks by the way tyler when we were in Oakland for the finals last year tyler was hot and heavy on the the stocks meme which was new at the time. I feel like GRANDPA talking about tying onion to my belt tyler was like I think this means got legs and he was early early with the Collar. Kind of died down and boy. Oh boy is back with a vengeance will. This is like if it was like when you find out like Buddha was a song Summer Twenty nineteen. It was released in like October Twenty fifteen. Yeah it's one of those like a damn like I really about a Hitman and then years later comes a challenge. You triple your net. Worth vindicating vindicated. Back Bet I wanted to give you your flowers cause I'll never forget we're and you were reading the hotel filming were filming And start like you should. I hadn't seen it. You showed it. You just turned to me. I've seen the stocks are like. What did you say in the van transportation passing the phone around everywhere like like again? I got that crack of the Bat. Yeah those stocks. It took the world economy to collapse. But we're here. We're sorry I didn't mean to cheat on you stocks. I mean to send it. Please talk to police only stuff sponsored through the floor dot going up not at all stocks man. Yeah no that's the my problem with it. I know they're gonNA come back at all. I always do so. I'll fake. Yes by bill and Vincent more money to put into it for some reason. That's why I really don't twelve hundred like for stimulus that's why I don't don't matter man who I like. Give us right. Do a candidate does some scratch. Mangum spending money smocking around pocket change. Lo Wam is what we call it. Yeah it's so absurd and people doing the map. They were like twelve hundred times. Every American isn't even close to two trillion dollars. Where's the rest of that? Goes one hundred six million dollars? Sounds like wait a minute? What's gone like our worry about that? Shit I mean it's not like adjusted for anybody knows like the game like a in the south twelve hundred hundred. GonNa do somebody damn good which is good. That's the point with a New York at twelve hundred. Go out the window like immediately right while the weeks a ring. That's helping to like. It's the same way the other way. 'cause I've seen it's I don't know if this is officially at either but it's like if you make a hundred k. Plus you get nothing and it's like like you said the south one hundred gays you chilling New York like your multi-month like very much working. Yeah if you could still very much need dollars just because you're making one hundred K B. But they're making thirty gay who were like. Shut the fuck up knowing goats. But I'm just telling you that's real life some people yeah and it was. It was hard for me to understand till I really started late. Coming to ambient in and around New York. Yeah like that's what I was. I have. Yeah Okay now you could fade that if you wanna live an hour and a half ride away every single morning afternoon now should as up. I get it yeah. Yeah that's where you really start paying for your time taxing. Oh Yeah Yeah. I've heard people like walking to work. I was like what are you? Trillionaire what do you mean you're walking? That's like people that they walked like fifteen minutes walking. We're walking good team minutes here. I don't you nowhere corner gas station. Yeah you your work. I imagine. Living that close to there was one job I had there was close enough to like some condos rows like would this be worth it to pay this much to be this close and even I was like I don't just don't want to be this close to job. Pray every you like like it's also a different animal New York like there's no one driving to work either. I don't even as bad as I don't traffic down those bad But like maybe shopping. Yeah exactly you can find a way to enjoy a drive like very the only people drive in New Yorker take another people to work correct correct or from the airport. So they like. It's there's no enjoying the train. I Don I know enjoying that. Hackenberg foot is in New York. Do all of them this staggering a large yesterday. Who's because he drove into because he said he went into the office and I know he lives in Jersey. So as you took the train time like this in my brain was an didn't make the switch now. I drove into the office and he was like it was the best knows anywhere. Yeah cruised in yeah. There was no one on the roads like the city's empty. This is a man who was like working in the financial district during nine eleven. So he was like. That's the only thing compared to nine eleven rough not the not the list. You WanNa be on now you see. The comparison lists play lion. Yeah no one's at those numbers since Anthony Bennett Jack Michael. Look Andy. Yellow Candyman Greg told it's a it's tough draft comparisons for corona virus. Just you talk about a monster of a prospect this year and I say that not at like renews there are just so many strains of the flue and again. Some of them are weekly. Muslim are usually just weakest for every once in a while. We get a motherfucker for. He'll yeah this is one of them. She is a Ho- do not tell us I can't get over the ripple effect of one guy eight a bat. This is what you talk about butterfly like. Get the fuck man a shadow to Scott Scott. Rochelle pointed out like man. I could never tweet that tweet again. But the birthday boy. Ayoola is like yeah. These are the things you don't think about. What a pandemic we lose very art on the other side of it. I just come out and that that was my answering diary. That was that was the opposite of your stocks. Call that was you. Were like bat soup. Yeah this will never come back to bite me. Oh boy what's the worst that can happen? I think the time machine hypothetical pops up all the time like if you add a time machine and you go back and kill a certain moustachioed baby. Through those back guy is skyrocketing up the lists kills slot the bat of his hand. Who'd be like no WHO's top? Three people you go back in time to face mustache boy for sure. Still in the mix you wanting to say. His name skip. Bayless number. Two is the N. Word of people that Hitler. So it's opry for sure Guy Is interesting just to see what would happen with the rest of humanity. It'd be like jenn goose con because we're all technically have his blood and us so like what happens. If he's out of the mix and like good things one would assume us a big time a man can center then even consider that word would have been cancelled these days. So it's easy to see I don't even. I don't like who else is in the top. Three one baggage groover at. Let me look up this William Randolph hearst. I'm get him the fuck out of here fuck that guy that the KKK do knows no. He's I mean we probably talked to. He's the reason millions and millions of black people are incarcerated today because he's the one who went to He orchestrated the hips so that yeah the illegal Have have because he owns Timber in he owned timber newspapers which is just pivot to printing everything on how that would have been the lesser nobody. There wasn't a good idea until like one thousand nine hundred seventy one and it was like George cocaine cocaine and George Clinton be like. What if I played guitar when I'm standing right next to people like a good idea sense? Da that William ran offers fucking stinks. I like the amount of our lives. He's ruined the amount of earth. He's ruined by growing fucking timber and cutting it down like hamp is so good for the soil to grow. It's insane. It's such a grown faster than timber. Eight you can get so much more the per square acre than timber. It's fucking insane. How much better planted as you'd almost find what year was that? What year or years issue was I believe? It was early. Nineteen Yeah. It was like the thirties forties. Because I know it was illegal by the time World War Two came around but they like temporarily lifted the ship because we need to grow more ham because funny enough timber wasn't pulling it's fucking wait when it came to him and one other bike on the other dudes named nap because he had the other dude who was like the not attorney general but someone. I liked that like nationally. Who was the one who went in front of Congress and was like you know we've Ryan the reports that makes white woman susceptible to Mexicans and everyone was like well? We can't have that no surrogate. It's nay on that nope illegal. That's there's marijuana with a fucking h like base. There's was so funny. I really think somebody wants you to get out of here. Yeah so him. William Randolph are at some point in a fucking headlock just carrying around. I'm Jay of you who've ratty year that's a good one Reagan Baby Reagan hidden in what the students say like this spinning neck break turns who's like affected me personally. Somebody WHO's reign? Your personal fe Jim Jim at third grade laughed at me. Me Do boy I think honestly I I'd probably go Alexander the Great aac. It'd be like quite a tale like I took him out here and be like I just WanNa know it was in the library at Alexandria that he burnt the fuck out that like had all of human history up until whenever the fuck out. I'm going to go back. Yeah exactly. He's so yeah that he's someone I've always wanted to kill third earl boy. No I got it but I I think I legally Cascais right. I think even the fake mention that lives taken very seriously. Hypothetically a bestmark third the do we know him personally. No but everybody knows them. Jesus abby again. I'm in a major. Just now. Now he forty fifth Pedro I got you. Yeah I want the Michael Jordan at all right. Yeah I got you. That's my three. I mean he's talking about someone skyrocketing the ranks. Yeah I wanted to be even been someone. You considered six years ago now Boyle Oh boy you talk about. He's like staff man he was always around but when he clipped clipped life. This guy changed the game. It's got a problem is really something like I don't like his style of play. In fact I hate it but as impactful boy about gravity man here fair so you're good with it look about it now listen. I don't want to buy the numbers you know. That's the crazy thing. Listen skip you know. I don't like to defend it. Yes absolutely hey if you look at the numbers hitting put up the biggest numbers and his own era Muslim Laney who know Russian boy who completely blanking on his name FAC joist. Afc let's see Russian Russian Dick Stalin Stalin Joseph Foot you talking about numbers on the Board Jeff Van Gundy. I'm trying to listen I get it Which three affected me? Stalin was Kinda doing listener. He's a bad guy if I have. I have five if I had five minutes. Each sneaking on the list honorable mention second team second team all time machine Rossa ed. Hitler gives people go straight to him. Way To ease again. He's a bad guy unworthy worthy of it on my they cause goes away and I listened to you talk or Raynham good scheme receiver open but listen maybe played in the same conference of Stalin. He went into Stalin's home turf. Came out with a big L. That's what he did evidence his name not as cool. It's cool Liz. It is one of those you talk. If he was any other time he had no honestly guys I think I think I know don looked like a no Hitler look like I have a picture in my mind of Stalin. I'm GonNa see if his right stalls getting fits off you know. It's Don looks like I think he was. He was a handsome devil. Yes yes but how about it? Yeah I think we're heading my head. But he had a mustache book he was Damian Lillard Mundane like I'm hitting threes to. You are a Jumba all right. I'm thinking it's It's Durant when he was on the warriors like he was clearly better. They use clearly putting bigger numbers still focused on stuff style. Strong main two he got Joseph with the F. I believe is pitting. Is it like a man could have been real cool like you get to that level? You could have been anything you wanted to might legitimately right. He chose to be like a historic piece of Shit Lake. It's like one of those rolls the dice I think there are. I tend to think most people more evil than good but I think they're only certain amount of people that have that spark evil in right right where everybody your teeter out around a George W Bush evil and his level of Evil I. I always wonder if it's like gross incompetence either way is still barb. It definitely but there are other people would like in an evil intent. Oh for sure. Impact over intent. They can all get the fuck. Outta here but without question oil every once somebody just be that bad. It's like man you if he was literally anybody if anybody else has got net no has started the gumption that style. Yeah if Jordan didn't take that one minor leaguers spot who knows what the white sox would have done honest to God boy let thankful the Kobe Bryant found soccer and basketball with the most respected the utmost respect think without question. It's the worst thing that anyone said about him. City I with the utmost. We heard what you said. Yeah. Fat Layer was a little better on the pitch. Maybe Hitler's paintings really slept like that. Lewis as bad as he is now he was like Nah. I'm also a sick artist. Like listen this guy is awful but have you seen him on oil base. This guy you talk about a writer the speaker. I would finally like Stalin by you ever heard like the early Stalin. Tapley do so good at guitar really know like shreds hendrix often slow solid. Why did he go that way? I don't get fired from a GIG. Advocate love took it the wrong way man. Ah when someone's GONNA post over the edge and that was somebody's hit Louis. Painting is all guy. I'M GONNA keep it a ball. He's a bit like that. Your beer doesn't even connect with the Paul Pierce out. I don't even know who that is. Is that even meat? Basketball's not thing. I mean that's the thing but it's not globalized. Canadians. How dare you? He's got around him off too damn but he could have been anything else but man would it be it as far as just just committed to the painting. You know what I mean. Yeah it gave up too easy. That's what I always say about him. Yeah Donald Stalin. He was the one people photoshop. Pictures Right. Oh Yeah invented photoshop. Pretty that's very funny guy on foot with fleas. Absolutely he would he would he would make them vanish the pictures and also in real life like that. Yeah he was like yeah. I have no idea who you're talking about. 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It's not the worst thing that's ever happened. A west side with running water. There are places that don't even have that yeah so think about Flint Carcass Flint Little Miss Flint. Anyone out there doing really good work. They've been doing really good work for too fucking long. So let's let's try and help them out again is gonNA come from the people man we keep seeing it like the the billionaires angle do now like that They were waiting. Let's see what they see how they move man. Let's see what the the Knicks Moot? Nah It ain't no next move. It's a staring contest. Only one side understands the contest right. Yeah they turn their back in Tulsa. I sleep like what are you talking about? Who Is Michigan? Where is that? Yeah what is it? Now be as mad lemonade man. We might never see you guys ever again but this might be one thing if this happened during normal times. Yeah we're OUTTA here. But people are digging digging forgotten. I feel the other way because we were digging. 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Where Do the Pacers Turn Without Victor Oladipo? | Group Chat (Ep. 374)

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Where Do the Pacers Turn Without Victor Oladipo? | Group Chat (Ep. 374)

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You'll actually wanna stay at go to hotel tonight dot com or download the app now. Basketball is very good. Is actually a good team. Southbound is the most important broad court taser here and FOX's better than Donovan Mitchell. Basketball is Mary alone. Welcome to the ringer NBA show. This is the group chat group. That is hey O'Shaughnessy do that better than you do really? Well, I appreciate that thinking also as always we're getting I'm never going to try to do that one. That's great. We we like you just the way you are Pala perfect the tunnel grow. So we're going to talk about a few things today. All-star starters. Get tonight tonight is Thursday. We're also going to talk about in probably the Atlanta Hawks versus the Dallas Mavericks and some of the things going forward with both those franchises making people stop listening right away. Well, you know, they they come for us. They just want to spend time with us. They don't care about the topics. We're also gonna talk about mellow actually. Justice things on mill are always great. It's going to be a lively lively little segment here, especially because it wasn't an NBA site the other day, but I or on a somber tone victory will depot went down last night seemed pretty bad as soon as it happened. We got the news today from Shaam Sherani a- that it is a ruptured quad tendon, he's probably going to be done for the rest of the season. I guess kind of first thoughts here, obviously, it's a bummer. But beyond that, I do wonder what it pretends for the for the rest of the season for the Pacers. Well, I guess it just as a question of are they going to change direction? Yeah. And what this means for if other front office going to just stay with this team. I mean, the seem very likely would still make the playoffs probably wouldn't do much. Once I got in it. The question is what are they going to do with the off season their plans as of now, they are definitely leaning into. We are a win now team. I think. That the Tyree signing was like the biggest indicator that everything that they did this off season was a big indicator of that they were trying to put things around depot that would work because that's what they're missing last year. And they have a lot of expiring this year. It seemed like they were only going to keep getting guys who were win. Now. A lot of their players have looked better and have improved which is encouraging the timing for this is just timing. Anyway, her been terrible. But sa- bonuses looked a lot better Turner to remove Lauber defensively. Phenomenal. Yeah. So everything that they've wanted to work out. It's kind of worked out and even of late Terex looked a lot better. It's just it's such a bummer, but it will be a huge bummer if they decided to change your actions, it sucks because they were actually like one of the top teams in the east two and a half games out of first place thirty two fifteen and this is why think they can't really turn back the other way of that makes sense like they have their their their way too. Good to try to like. Tang for the second half of the season, which I don't think is even something they would do because they were still pretty good. When old people miss some time earlier in the season. Now, of course, he limits him being out for the entire season. Definitely puts a hard cap on their ceiling in the playoffs that you mentioned. But I do think that they could still win a first round series. Yeah. I guess the silver lining ear, and we can get into how this is kind of a bummer for all people. Just because of how he's in the past two seasons after he left Oakley. Okay. See and just kind of what it means for all star. Which is like it's always nice when a guy like Bill gets nominated for those sorts of things because I think he plays in Indiana. First of all, which you know, they don't get a lot of shine. But also, it's like you went through the two different teams to start his career. And finally came on the end, it's kind of like a symbol of like all the good things that he's been doing lately, I think on the the silver lining is you get to see a little bit more for some of those young guys. Like, you mentioned I think like they have a lot of money coming off the books here. It gives us a chance to kind of see what else is there in particular with Aaron holiday who guys. Like, I think everybody. Seems to be pretty high on. I don't have much of opinion on him yet. Just because I haven't really watched a lot of them. But I guess if you're saying going forward that we need to build the proper context around a depot now, you get a glimpse is basically we were saying about Anthony Davis when human down for this what? Now appears to be what one to four weeks you'd see what they have. Well, I think the other the other conundrum is that. So right now, they're third in playoff seeding there. Only two and a half games back from the first spot, and there's virtually no way that like the pistons who are night like they're going to be in the playoffs. I would even say that they're not going to drop lower than the fifth seed Aislinn, maybe Haley. Yeah. Agree with you. I don't think I mean, maybe the nets keep going on this run that they're having a note get the fifth seat, and then, you know, Pacers six, but the east is just so weak that they already have such a strong identity team that they're gonna stay up there. Here's the issue depot going down. So the bucks or the top the raptors or second right with this team. Exactly as. As it is. Before depot was injured. Nobody is going to believe that the Pacers would beat them. I don't know. I was I was Sandra -taining idea of which team the raptors are the bucks I could be given the series. Yeah. They're not getting past them. There was already sort of a ceiling on what they could do is. Currently we were talking about them making a move with it that I mean in slack about making the deadline for a Mike Conley perhaps, and how that would perhaps give them that level that we think that they could you know, compete with those top teams in now it just shows like that's not even that's like the Lisa concerned, Indiana trade or the draft is the only way to bring another started depot. And so it's just like this is studying the back so much that he's going to be offering entire season. And like you said, I think they have the defense. They're the second still the fourth in net rating. I think there is something there that they've built that will be able to sustain them throughout this run. I mean, I think the the big question is more going forward. Like, what moves you make? Now. What moves you? Make the next offseason and demeaning to start worrying about victory depot as a guy who maybe won't even be able to. Reclaim the height set. He's had the past few seasons. And you saw it even before he went down. I believe he miss double digit games with the knee injury. I don't know how much of that connects to this kind of debilitating one that he had today. I wouldn't be surprised if there is some calls in effect there by the way plays. Yeah. Absolutely. It's a great point. And I do wonder if that's gonna linger even on into like the next season or even past that what you really have because they are old people run team. He's been really great in the clutch for them. For instance, even though is shooting percentage has been down. So you've already seen signs that like if he's not going to be that guy. I don't know what you do there. There's a little bit more doubt than like, maybe we should've had previously. I don't they're not super reactionary the organization because I would like to see let's see of tyre can keep playing at this level. Let's see how much further. Myles Turner can go. This is a pretty solid base. It's not nearly enough at the top. But I just really really think it'd be a mistake to reactionary to this also interested in how Aaron holiday does. I he the few minutes he had earlier in the season. He looked really good. And there was even rumors that they were well, they're trying to trade Cory Joseph, and or one of Cory Joseph for Darren collison because they wanted to give Aaron holiday more minutes and won't now he's going to get more minutes through unfortunate situation. So that'll be interesting to see. Yeah. We'll see what goes on there. I personally would advocate for for getting ready to some of these expiring contracts. He's only because like you're in the position where you're probably gonna have to overpay to keep them. There's going to be a lot of money available on the market this summer what we're expecting and not a lot of players sign them. So I do wonder if a guy like that young who's going to be thirty one might get Little Richard deal. Then you're gonna wanna sign is the type of deal that like I wouldn't want to sign a player to there are a few those guys up and down the roster. Tyreek been pretty average most of the season. Even though he's come on a little bit later bogged. Boy on. Geez. I always get the bogdonovich is. But again twenty nine this team is there kind of reaching their expiration date. So that's the issue that they're kind of up against the clock in a way that I don't think we'd expect them to be. It's not the same advantage for other for some other franchises that to have all that space in free agency. Because again, they're not a huge agency destination. Also don't know if this changes are I don't know what they're gonna do with miles Turner hordes bonus. Because it seems like they're going to they're trying to play them together. And they've had a few stretches as wait where they've looked piecing together. But it does feel like one of one of them is going to have to be the guy that they picked the big that they had that the keeping that they pay. Well, they already pay Turner. But you know, like, and I don't know if this somehow changes that with all the going out, and I think if any if anything it gives them more time to figure it out. Yeah. It does set a different kind of date for them. If that makes sense because they have to be more patient there. Impatient. Now. But then that ties into a year saying, which is they have these guys who are twenty nine hundred like that young thirty one which they don't know what to do with my hands bonus believe, I think next year is the last year of his rookie contract so ably a for an extension this summer and going into November. So I do wonder what they'll do. I wonder I guess kind of this is another small silver lining. But like maybe some bonus Niks into the all star game to take depots place because as we seen lately, the east all-star lineup pretty grim. We can talk about that one right now here. I we'll find out the starters tonight, which is Thursday. Also, find out the captain's which I believe is mostly dictated by fan voting. But the rest of it is fan voting media voting player voting's fans. Get fifty percent of the total media is twenty five percent players. Twenty five percent. It's pretty bad in the east right now. Just to give you a glimpse at who's leading the voting based on third returns. It's Jaanus who is the leading bogut. Are. I believe overall Kawai in bead, kyri twain Wade. That's in the ease in the west. Lebron Luca our guy Paul George Steph and Derrick rose for some reason. I guess general thoughts you guys care about all star to begin. With is probably a good place to start. I I guess it depends on what you mean care about. I think it's more entertaining. Now that they have captains selecting like we're going to tell us to CA style. It's televised. See what order they're picked in. I think that that makes it a lot more fun. I've said this a lot. And I really don't mean it in a curmudgeon any way, I just don't think that we should have all star on the same level as the other awards that we give out with it being such a high percentage fan voting and with the way that fans vote. I mean, you see like doing weight, and there you see Derrick rose in there. It's kind of like they're doing it not based on basketball, totaling on the storyline. And that's kind of one of the essential. It's always been about it is it more for the fans is an event just to put on a show a spectacle. Moore's it just should be based purely on merit should because. It is. It is definitely for the fans. But I think that my my only problem with it is kind of. When I am writing something in I put he's a five-time all-star just going forward like that only is relevant in the context of someone being popular player. I would say though that while I grew with that. I think there there might be. I don't know what that threshold is. But there's a number. I think where we get to that number and then it becomes. Okay. This is this is meaningful. Like, if you're like two time all star in the sky made it in twice because of popularity board whatever not actual merit. But if it's like a five time guy with seven-time guy. You're like, okay. Like that means something you know, what I'm saying. Like, I don't think I don't think it has them. Like, I think I agree with you in that carries less weight than we maybe think, but I think if there is repetition over time multiple appearances, then that should tell you something. I think if anything I just think it's means less and less. Yeah. And then like the way and rose thing is just such a like slap in the face to this season. I'm just like you can have there's no one more. Eligible really like especially in the west. Well, that's what up Kobe too, right? I mean his last season go I mean Jordan's last season. Basically got in based on that. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of it was the starters are definitely fraud. I mean, it gets a little bit better because coaches decide the reserves, but even then they'll like nominate guys that you wouldn't expect there's usually one or two guys in each class where it's like, I could kind of see it. But there were probably like two or three guys that are probably more worthy of that spot. And also like it Sultan, people getting bigger bonuses. Anthony Davis memorably didn't put on all MBA team. But also, I believe he didn't get all-star starter that year in lost. What would have been an extra five percents? Definitely not being contracts. That's insane. Which was always a difficult matter because as a media, and you're voting on it, you essentially get to dictate whether or not this person gets more money, which should never be in the hands of lying anybody. And makes it really uncomfortable. When you have to tell them again vote for you. I can't remember I think I'd vote for him. Have you told somebody that? York done. I think it's public if you really cared. He could have looked up to see like what I did with him to his face. I'm pretty sure I made it pretty public. I respect that. There's a while. Yeah. Wow. Voting. But I don't know. Like, I think you could see the discrepancy between just like the fan voting first of all. And then like for instance, what Kevin O'Connor put on the site. The other day. I think there's in terms of just starters. And that's what we'll figure out tonight. I think there's like one spot and each of the conferences because even though we are going to do the the captains picking teams here. They're still giving up votes based on conferences. I think it is interesting. There's like once-power it's like it can go anyway for in terms of locks in the east. I would say Kyrie Embiid Janas qua- Aldred, but then that lasts spot which has to be a guard spot, which what is a guard to begin with. I have no idea. But like who do you give that? I would give it to the ultimate guard, Bradley Beal. What is it guard? He is gone shooting guard. Yeah. True. You know? I I think he's been really good, especially with John wall. So I would give it the Bradley view personally. Kemba not the ultimate guard building. Guard now forever referred him as that. Yeah. Cameras. An interesting one definitely like the Hornets of slumped a little bit here. I believe they're eighth right now in the Eastern Conference anything seventh all-star over all MBA is worthwhile. Because Kemba should not make all MBA. It's a different how much I'm curious. How much do you guys factor into your picks? How the team is doing. Well, all star. It's not nearly as much. Probably personally probably because they're more spots. I guess in all star. Right. What is all MBA fifteen where we're giving of twenty four and all star. So he could be a little bit more lenient. I factored in when it comes down to the west, for instance, in merges like haggling over like like percentage point in this rate or something like that. Like that event. It starts to matter. So Anthony Davis, non you're not you're starting to you didn't vote. That's an interesting question. Because that's another big way is your guard for the east. I would probably lean Simmons smart, what KO C had to add its weight is like so crazy. It's it's it's all a fan like farewells by. Yes. All it. And I is. Players mind is like Dwayne Wade has been amazing. It's just manufacturer like thirty thousand jerseys trade with everyone like. Grams jersey that he got from China for like five dollars. Yeah. No. I don't know. I don't feel good about the Simmons vote. I would vote like four different players in the west of him. Yeah. Yeah. Would you guys be like because I know it's idea has been kicked around is like scrapping conferences for the all star. Yes. There's no reason that there should be a starter is right or anything. Yeah. I mean, it I imagine it stems from the same reason. They don't switch it for overall. She's like which east teams and executives in owners would ever agree to that. Like, it looks good. If they have and all star. And it looks good for Charlotte. For instance, if Kemba Walker starting all start yet. So I I don't know if I would ever pass. Yeah. I would go Simmons. I don't feel great about. It depot would definitely have been the Mexican. He's healthy in in before that the there were issues like if he had enough games played. Yeah. Other than that. There just aren't a lot of qualifying guards. Which is really the shows you the dearth of talent in the easier where like half the teams aren't even like worthy of spot in the NBA. And the west is is the front court though, you have currently let's see here. Stephan harden. I think we can all agree are. Yeah. Pretty much lots or they should be logs. If not for Derrick rose, or wherever the hell is gonna get in if any Davis Katie in Yokich or who Kevin picked what do you guys? I think actually maybe even to those spas can change amazing vomit. I would keep it the same. And I'm so sorry LeBron. I never thought this day would come. But he's just missed so many games a lot of games. Oh god. I feel so dirty. She would that which other to keep amongst Etienne. Katie Katie, you'll get ya. I would do eighty K de Paul George. Yeah. Georgia is going to be the interesting one. It's really tough to leave him out. I also wonder like would you put him in over Steph like just because of the missed games? No. Because like there's another level to Steph that when he's on the court and how he's looked when he has played that I this is kind of maybe a little hypocritical in changing my like parameters if you will. But it so above everything else that I that you see that it transcends like the Mets games. I think what stuff in particular. Yeah. I would see this is where I would knock it defer for wins. And maybe give someone like Yokich the nods simply because I think this is where like because starter versus reserved like in the grand scheme of thing doesn't really make much of a difference at all probably gets skewed based on fan vote more than anything just because like popularity and then it gets into this whole diced conversation about what is an all star. I would probably go Yokich Katie LeBron if only because the Lakers have stayed in the playoff conversation when the Broncos healthy. I don't feel great about that. I would just. Let me FOX Platon. But one of the interesting ones, I do think is Luca being so high up there in the fan voting. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Maybe like Madrid comes out in full force in Slovenia. Like, I mean is a big market. And so, but all of a sudden he's just as popular as LeBron James, which is insane. I mean, he's you have to think about it this way he was already coming into league as a teenager. Yup. With a international fan base behind him that could be the case or they're just like working the Google machines in like, I mean, they're they're just like really active online voters. Of making like Russia Russian style. Bought a good. I wouldn't put it past. For me. I would do it for go to fix us. A like. I don't think he should be a starter. I don't even know if you should be in the also game you just said, he should he's not you're starting lineup. Yeah. No. I'm just saying like, I get why the voting is this high ab-. I I do think that there is value to how much we just converse about these players like not that bring her MBA's like Representative larger sample, but we have probably he's probably one of our three most talked about players this season. Just in terms of what we are discussing. So I mean, if that correlates out to, you know, not just Twitter, but the voting body of the fans, and yeah, that makes sense. It's kind of opposite of like wait in rows and being reminiscent of them. It's exciting in its new you think it's actually pretty interesting to get a glimpse at what like fans think. And they're this is definitely fraught because I don't know how these votes are getting tabulated. They can't do it on Twitter anymore because Justin Bieber got involved and all of a sudden like the raptors players were like through the roof in terms of voting. But. I think it's like Representative like we know that Dwayne Wade shouldn't be there. We know Derrick rose shouldn't be there Luca most likely not shouldn't be a starter. Maybe he's a reserve bowl of a sudden you start to see where people are gravitating to in an almost like it gets me out of my little bubble. Yes. That like yet. Dwayne Wade is a superstar, right? Who is beloved in plays in the Miami market. That's among one of the bigger ones. Are you surprised at all that you honest is not just in as the starter being voted by fans, but also like one of the top owed gutters because? Yeah, there is a sense that I'm still thinking about he's a Milwaukee. And that's not a big market. And like, yeah, he's amazing. He's very much a highlight creator, which has a lot of I think currency these days in some ways. And but but I'm just sort of surprised by that in terms of just the market 'cause I I didn't think he had that huge following in that sense. And it's great point. I don't really get a good read on him. I get the sense that based on like some of the merchandising sales. They released from. The NBA that he is pretty popular. Now, he also has an international following. And I think it speaks at this whole thing like like how big is the NBA internationally, and how many votes are coming international you'll really transcend their market, and he's one of them Kempson example of someone who doesn't yes, we've never talked about Kemba. They're just not very good. I I think Charlotte is the small I think it might be New Orleans, actually, but New Orleans Charlotte. Memphis are among the small. So I forget what podcast. I was listening to today, but they were talking about which was the status team in the NBA that you felt like the most sorry and somebody said, Charlotte. I wish I could remember, and I just totally agreed. It's like them or the pistons there since I was from. Yeah, we're not talking about them for multiple reasons. But both of them are just so stuck. Yes. I don't know the pistons would be that was from it just because I mean, I don't know everybody saw the Blake Griffin. Reggie Jackson video last night. I was like of this trading. Mike conley? Sure, why not do it. I would not wish that upon my comedy. But those amazing is playing with this Blake finally get off. Reggie jackson. That's exciting. And this I actually like Charlotte. I spent some time there during the playoff series. I think like, yeah. Charlotte's lovely good barbecue. Nice people. But that's not what we're talking about. The other issue there. I guess the difference between Detroit and Charlotte. Charlotte is in the south and buses a little bit more football leaning, Charlotte is very much Panthers town, and so I think there's just not much of a fan base to draw from there and like the team left for a while. And then came back, so there's that kind of divorce, but there there is a certain astrologer for that like adorable Bumblebee mascot that they have Jones. Speaking of all stars. I'm gonna make this transition is not gonna work, but we're going to go with it. Anyways. Guys. Did you know that the Golden State Warriors are playing the Washington Wizards tonight rough I think we're gonna call this the watch of the night. I I'm really excited about the Washington Wizards going forward. I think Bradley Beal the recall. Ultimate the ultimate guard. We need to get on your shirt off of that. But I'm super excited about this team. We were watching on a Sunday. I believe Bill just go off in Toronto and that overtime game. They're one of the best watches currently. I think I'm not just saying that because the warriors. No, I'm talking about the wizards. I the warriors again Hostetter and scam. I right. I know should read about him on the radio dot com should go. Do it extensively. But no, I think there's something about that team. There's a little bit more of a spirit, and I think they're also really interesting to watch leading into the trade deadline because if they just kind of flubbed it over the next couple of weeks says we, you know, the cleric reported the other day, I think there's a chance that like maybe auto Poors back on. It's really really fun to watch Bradley Beal when he has his energy agree. Someone's like he should be center of the team. Imagine that. That game is on TNT tonight at five PM Pacific. We don't do eastern time here. So you could make the math yourself. And remember if you watch every NBA game subscribe to NBA league pass on MBA dot com. Amazon or your local cable or satellite provider. We're gonna take a quick break. And then we're going to talk about the hawks in the Mavericks for a little bit. The ring are NBA show is sponsored by brilliant earth. Create your own custom engagement ring from a variety of ethically sourced, diamonds, gemstones, metal types and settings. 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Oh getty. Yes. The Atlanta Hawks who traded the rights of Luca Danni for trae young have a lot of other young guys John Collins, Kevin wetter and a bunch of draft fix going forward. The debate here is which team as I guess the best runway going forward. I just want to say, I don't like the adversarial nature of. This throw Luca like as pro guys you can get. So that's not the argument here is not how contacting him to just turn all their attention very much for Luca. I just want to say that out front. So I'm not anti the Mavericks and what they're doing. Yeah. Polly was just a question. Yeah. He he texted me the other day and thought what did you say I said kind of random or weird question. What if the hawks actually have a better situation or core going forward? Then the Mavericks is when you guys are Texan about at night. Yeah. In the middle of the night shift, the diligence in I know that that's hard to sort of parse through brilliant think about because Luca is already such a transcendent talent. But I'm just looking at this maverick semen. I don't know what they're gonna do around him. Now granted that may be come more clear in the next few months next year, which should given that they have a talent like that. But it seems like with the hawks and we've seen it as of late. They've really come on late. They have an identity to have a system they have a young coach who is willing to put in the time to develop these players Mavericks. I don't know if they do and they have a good front office. A lot of people from the warriors came to the hawks and trae young has like good in some spurts tough another spurts, but he has hit Kevin herder John Collins, you have another chance at a top three pick. Probably I don't I just there's something about it that feels very progressive. And I do think that they they still need that Luca type star. I don't think I don't think trae, I know if trays can be that or maybe he will at some point. But in just in thinking about those situations. I just wonder it's more of an indictment on I guess not an indictment, but more of a curiosity about what the Mavs are going to do around around go. Well, I think you know, maybe we'll see the same kind of change in trae that we did in second year Darren, but I just think that their timelines are so different. So that's why it's hard to already Cuban is looking at Luka's. Okay, great. We can pivot away from tanking. I hated that. And they are very much already in a win now situation not necessarily that they have the pieces, but that's their mindset. I mean, look at who they've surrounded him by the only other young person they have was rumored to be in trades last week. And who knows like it seems kind of like he's unhappy even though now they're like outwardly rekindling it. I'm not. I'm not sure what's going to happen with that in the offseason. But also the Mavericks have a lot available to them this offseason in terms of cap space. And I don't think it's going to be difficult for them to sign somebody. You think it's an interesting look at just like the expectations you can afford upon yourself by making some of these moves Luca hits immediately. And all of a sudden, you're kind of expected to do something with that. I think they have a golden opportunity. I mean, we talk about this a lot because I think Kevin Clark in the NFL kind of with the tracks for this that when you have a star on a rookie contract. You could do so much else with all those means like in the NFL you could spread it around. You all this other stuff you seen with the Sixers and we've talked about this. Ben Simmons being on his rookie contract. They can go out this summer, and they still have enough cap space. I believe if they get rid of Marquel Foltz to go at it a fourth guy to what they already existed and still have Jimmy Butler. And so you've almost put pressure on themselves by nailing that Luca pick. I think the thing with them is there's always been a question are they a caste based team? Or is this the type of team that should have probably built through the draft along time ago. And like he mentioned they're going to have a lot of money available. But who are they signing? Exactly. And so how does that affect what they're going to have? Because if they don't dig themselves out of kind of the trenches here, they're not gonna have the draft pick because it's top five protected. I think that the way to look at this as comparing it to lash with with Donald Mitchell, right? He like broke all his records shocked everybody. Nobody was expecting Utah to suddenly build the team around him. Now will be very very difficult for Utah to do. Whereas with the Mavericks, I do think they have the ability to do that. I think that there are a lot bigger draws in organization than we're giving them credit for I don't know how players personally feel about Cuban. But I mean, there's some evidence at the I mean chiller persons used to go to the club with him. Right. You know, what I mean like far worse owners in bigger markets that you don't want anything to do with playing. With Luca is an enormous dry. You know, players can see. That already. I think that they've been smart in the past. They've been smart with players that they've surrounded centerpieces with Texas has no income tax. It's not A or Miami. But it is a great franchise in has great fan base. There's history there that I think that normally we only give to places like Boston or LA like younger players, especially now Z the Mavericks as a good organization players are going to want to be second pieces to a team where you have a twenty year old the as the leader of team. But what types of players are going to accept that reality. And like you just mentioned there are plenty of things that could alert you alert players Mavericks at the same time. You know, maybe not not everybody might be cut out for seating to a twenty year old. Yeah. And I think a big thing is you see a lot of these guys who want to go play together is usually because they've laid those seeds like when they were twelve and a you and all these guys are. We talk about Anthony Davis. Hey, maybe he go Mike go to Boston. I don't think that's even a question of Cairo Irvine is there because those guys get along. So well, so I think that is an important part of it. We don't factor in a lot of these guys are just friends who've been playing with each other forever on the other side of things. I do think it's really interesting that the hawks have built this kind of really exciting context from if anything they traded having one star players and all the good debt and bad that come with him with having like just endless opportunity, and it's it's a weird balance because like Luca on one hand provides you just a cornerstone they can go forward with and like you just put the right guys around him. And all of a sudden you have a title contender for the next decade. The on the other hand, you have all these different pieces. But like, you don't have the one piece. And so wondering like would you rather have the one and nothing else or would you just have everything else? But not the one I think definitely the one because we have right now with the hawks, I think not best-case scenario worst-case scenario, but right in the middle. Is like young clippers right now. Where do you think about the best franchise in how many years, you know, arguably the best team in history grew from the ground up drafted Steph curry drafted Klay Thompson, you know, what? I mean. Like, I think that getting someone in young and figuring out what to do around it with someone who's as talented as Luca like is one hundred out of one hundred times the answer your it's hard because I always think about the leading this way. And I talk about it this way, they it is very much superstar driven and that is the key to winning getting that superstar. But I don't know there's something about the hawks that I find the learning in sense that they one of you know, like I said, I think trae young is still a TVD, but they the the groundwork is there for player too. I don't know if they'll be free agency down the line. But or for some for player to come in and become that, Don Ryan Mitchell type, you know, what I'm saying? So. Or they could just drives I on. Right. I mean, that's the thing. I was going to say is they're going to have to top ten picks most of the top ten picks. And because of the flying odds going into this draft they have even better shot at their at their I pay going in the top three or maybe even top in one. I think what if they are EMA is not necessarily the young core. But the picks they have going forward because you put like someone likes ion in with that mix then. Yeah, that's extremely attracted. I think is really interesting is that all that would have existed for the hawks. If and they could have just had Luca like, they just didn't make the Luca trade. They could've had gone, Colin. And I believe where do they they had that pick regardless Wetering with Dallas. And then some of these other guys making the back. So they just went up have two picks in the end. It's coming crap. But again, Luca kind of turns out because he's been SOGA. So I do wonder if you ask them, you know, on like truth serum or something with. Listen trae, regardless of all the kind of good and bad. He's had up and down this year. You know, his the migos stamp of approval. And that's really something. You can't put a price on. We're gonna take another really quick break. And then we're gonna go and talk about mellow once and for all for the last time ever. Two thirds of guys experiencing noticeable hair loss by age thirty five most guys assume losing their hair's inevitable as they age. Some don't care some shave their head some embrace hats. But what they don't know is that there are FDA approved medications designed to stop hair loss, and even regrowed hair. That's why we're excited to partner with our sponsor Roman Roman makes it easy to get safe. FDA approved hair loss treatment, all from your phone or computer. And when you go to get Roman dot com slash ringer. 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He was playing pool and doing other things on Instagram fishing. While still being on the rockets roster. They traded him last week. The Chicago Bulls essentially just to get off his luxury tax money. Unfortunately, James Nunnelee was lost in the process. RIP James Dunaway who? Who? Yeah. So bad those I I didn't I didn't. I mean, they can just sign them again in like this. But the big question here going forward. I think is what what is left for one Carmelo Anthony. I think Kayleigh had some really strong opinions that there is the sense. I guys you still think that there's something left for this. I have a lot of pity for for players and not necessarily mellow in this exact sense. But for players who are put into a position that they are not equipped to handle. And then they are totally hated for it. The best example is awesome overs you on the clippers. I mean, I got dogged by just like the conversation about him rather than his actual, exactly. He had too many minutes. Dad was a coach like he was totally set up for to not handle the role that he was given with mellow. I mean debt be basically put it on himself. He was not willing to accept a smaller role. He made such a big deal of wanting to be a starter. Even when he got to the rockets. In the beginning. He was saying that I mean by all the way back in. Okay. See the things he was saying, we're just ridiculous. He laughed in that press conference where they asked to consider coming off the bench like look at what your buddy Dwayne Wade's doing, you know. It's okay to age. Well, and when you set that standard you probably won't I mean look at his game. But here's my argument. Mellow could still help a team in appropriately reduced role with a change of heart. I don't think he's going to have a change of heart. And that's what's such a bummer, but I could name twenty guys in the league right now that he could be more helpful than my my. My counter is more of like a pedantic sort of thing. Whereas I wonder how much of it is been willingness versus inability I do think that is a type of player win in a different era. He might not have had this sort of success that he had throughout his career. He's essentially a volume score. And while I think we diminish that a little bit more than we should. I think that that skill is just like super important. I think you could see that in the way that like guys revere him like I think that when the most of the league agrees that this guy is kind of a killer as a scorer like we should take note of that and realize that there are certain things that that pretends in like that kind of that how that helps a team that might not show up in a stash sheep, but I do wonder if that sort of game will not be able to be condensed into limited minutes in. So if you essentially comes down to the math words like if you were inefficiency but taking a lot of shots. That's fine. Because you can get points that way. But if you're doing it in fewer minutes that just means you're a bad player. Yeah. And also when especially when you're a minus on the defensive led us here, you're not bringing anything which in the playoffs gets exasperating. Yeah. The next did not do him any favors because I just let him continue playing as he had. There are other people who had similar style games who realized that they needed to tweak things to age appropriately. Whereas he stayed with the Knicks his ego state with the next first so long, even after it was not helpful that he never really changed. He was averaging thirty minutes in his time with the rockets that is insane. He's never going to help you at in that large of a role. And plus, you know, they were having a really hard time and bringing him in at that point in the season was kind of like, oh, this is our fix, and you really like can't put all of that on him. As a player as a person in personality. This is like completely as fault. He didn't wanna leave the league. Like, he he was so obsessed with his pride in with his legacy that now he is probably going to leave the league as a punchline the corner that I'm speaking of myself in this argument is that I I get why from a basketball perspective, we have to you know, kind of rag on him for not adjusting not aging, well and not like being willing to take on a role. The human side of me is like this guy had to have this sort of confidence this sort of ego thieving get to where he was in the league. And that's just a him too. Many superstars both him. Specifically, it seems like kinda like you said it continued on in New York and just build on that foundation. That already had a being like a player that was elite, you know, an elite score. And I think when you have that it's very hard to completely changed from that from like a human. Effective. And then at the same time, you know, I think that the opinion of him is not like, I I don't think it will matter in ten years like my you're like twenty one and under like, this is not what you're going to remember from below. I just don't think we're going to think about in five to ten years. We're not going to think about how it ended. We're just gonna see that mental had a bunch of points and got a lot of money and just how to be a career without a ring. And that's probably a hall of Famer. Yeah, fine. He definitely like the find Inara Ryan BA like he Dwayne Wade. Lebron all those guys that was like they were some of the most important players for over a decade. I don't think we're actually even arguing so much as like pointing out like why if it cly he isn't working, and I think to Haley's point like Houston wasn't the proper context for him to really like show whether or not he could transition into a lesser role. I do think like they had all those injuries. And all of a sudden he was playing way too many minutes. And then his defense got exposed. I would I I do think that perhaps he deserves a second chance. But I also think that one of the big things from quanson like stats based guys like John holliman back day was always that we give too much credence to reputation and guys who had done it in the past and give them too many chances when in actuality probably should be giving more chance at the guys without those names like guys like Daniel house. And I think it's really interesting that a team like Houston made that decision the big question going forward. I think is the Houston's the same team that signed Chris Paul until he's like fifty. Yeah. No. I think you still need stars. But like the guys the filth roster like giving the James none ways. Like well. I think chances looking to people who are established he can pull it off obviously Christmas still good level, but they are going to be paying for him. And while into the contract itself is bad Chris Paul's production, when healthy is still very I think that would be the distinction. This is Joe Harris league now. It's not a matter. What it is. I love my bearded brethren. Do we see any team that you guys would want kind of tickets? The laker. No, well, that seems like the most likely outcome. Here bought grades or contact to save a team. I would really like to see him in San Antonio. Yeah. That's a good because they are a team that has a really good system. Obviously Popovich, I don't know if pop could survive, but I do think that. The way they've catered their system to their starters as in Dhamar in the markets in the mid range. And then their bench has more of the three point oriented guys. I think could make mellow valuable in some way in just the way that utilize the mid range at do think. It's interesting that Santoni is the litmus test. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, if you could survive in San Antonio here, you're okay in our books and say I want to see. Son, Dennis Smith junior. They're all all the outcasts. I think he would be interesting in a couple places. I think Portland is one team that like like talked about maybe adding him before he went to the thunder. I think that's the type of move Portland can make and say that we tried to shake something up without actually trading CJ McCollum, which we wouldn't want to happen because then CJ will just sub tweet the ringer again. I think that would be interesting, I think and then Golden State Warriors. I think just Adam throw him in there. And then I think it's just like every we have five stars when I love guys with with reputation. Yes. That's the theme of this episode Haley, we put that as the show title these fucking off. And that would be fun. I mean, that'd be fun from like a attention in like just. But but but think about it. They have nothing to lose. Right. And it would be the most his minutes is taking. I mean, just put him on the bed and just have them hang out with lying out. Actually, I do want him to go to as we can finally get that ring got to put on it. All right. That's it for this episode of proof chat. Enjoy the all star voting, and we will talk to you next week basketball is very good. Carrie?

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Dwayne Haskins #1?, LeBron's LA legacy, Trent Brown in-studio

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Dwayne Haskins #1?, LeBron's LA legacy, Trent Brown in-studio

"Good morning everyone. And welcome to first things first, I'm John Wolf as always the hall of Famer, Mr Chris Carter, Mr. Nick rights right over here. Big show today, basketball football, and then more basketball. Little more football Koby has more advice for LeBron James wasting here with yet to say L bell went off on the Pittsburgh Steelers. As former team we're going to start though with quarterback Dwayne Haskins teams got a front row seat to watch the Ohio State quarterback throw yesterday and Haskins shine in his pro day. He is the presumptive number two quarterback in this draft with collar Murray seemingly penciled in with Arizona at number one despite going perhaps it number two Haskins is convinced he can fit in anywhere. Take a listen put me eighty playbook. I'll make a word so be able to show off platform throws moving some move into Mariah being able to move off spot. And then so be accurate then wanted to show because. The season throws that I miss it. I don't remember all off season. So I definitely felt like I did with that. RTC even following Haskins for a long time. What sets this kid apart as a top NFL prospect. We're right from the beginning when you see him throw to football, you know, that he's special. He's has a tremendous arm. He can throw with different velocity on the football. So that's the first thing besides his size being the prototype size that six three two hundred and thirty pounds. This is the size quarterback in arm strength quarterback. That's been successful in fill for the last thirty years now my own personal Intel and even talking to Ryan day the head coach at Ohio State yesterday. Because what people might be missing out on him is his overall leadership because he doesn't look like some diet dynamic leaders, and he hadn't been around a whole bunch. So people don't know but ADEMA high AllState filling in for J T Barrett. When he was a redshirt freshman, especially in that Michigan gain you could see where he started to grow into being a leader. And one thing to Ryan day pointed out that this year in taking over when they had. A lot of controversial things. They started season urban Meyer was suspended not on the sideline. Ryan day was trying to the first time that he was offense coordinator at Ohio State and Haskins his first season as a starter. So taking over that leadership of JT bear outside of his own physical gifts. Those are the things that Ryan day communicated to me that he believes that people will be shocked by overall football IQ how he understands football football concepts understands defense is what they're trying to do because before Ryan came to state, and he's been there last two years. He was an NFL for two years and a lot of those concepts. He was able to go over with Haskins even more in depth than he was able to go with J T Barrett a four year starter and the captain three time captain there at Ohio State. So the intangibles as far as the game his knowledge and understanding what the defense is trying to do what this what what this past play means. The different levels of throwing short intermediate. Andy, those are the things he pointed out to me that only knowing the kid and teaching him football that you're going to understand credit to Haskins and the people around him that set him up for this pro day because I think if you watched it it was very smart the way he went about it much like Cuyler Murray through every throw at his pro day from the pocket not on the move because we knew he could throw on you. You want to see him in the pocket Haskins did the opposite of that. For the same reason. We know he can throw in the pocket. We know we can throw stationary good protection. So he worked on throws on the move. He knew that one of his weaknesses. He mentioned it. There was on the move to his left, which is a weakness for almost any right handed quarterback. It's not that he's unique there, but he also was precise. Not only in his throes. But in the exact placement on deep throws. They were going to the outside shoulder where you want them to go on the red zone throws. They were high in a way where. If you do miss it's not going to end in disaster. So he is the prototype. It's one of the reasons why it's been so surprising to me that so much of the discussion has been about the other quarterback. The other quarterback might be more interesting because he's the opposite of the prototype. But big strong successful at a major school in a pro style offense. Those are the types of quarterbacks that have gone number one in their draft year after year after year also the people that trained him I thought they did a good job as far as showing his foot work a lot of times when you're young as a quarterback. You don't understand the type of energy that your feet need to have? And that's probably what I took from. Because I know he can throw the football. I knew that once people seem in personnel. Be like shocked like, wow, he throws it with such ease. But does he have the type of powerful footwork in the pocket that guys who aren't great athletes Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and their ability to build a shuffle their feet and be dynamic that way, which is a different strip that quarter. Bax that people typically don't look for in younger guys are a little bit lazy in their drop. So you could see that that was a point emphasis as far as his overall footwork and showing people how quick it work wasn't in the puck and for his Evelyn as a passer. See we were told me this before the show you mentioned right now, he's an arm and shoulder thrower. That's what the next step for him will be not only the footwork in the pocket, but using his base to make him a better. It would be able to his legs into his throw and also using his torso. He he's gotta do a lot of core strength strength things. Because drew Brees. That's one thing that he taught me as far as being accurate. You gotta keep your core. Strength because you're going to throw the ball from your legs a lot more. Once you get to the pro did look to be in a little better shape than at the combine now was in bad shape. But it was I read some of the scouting reports on him yesterday that he has at each phase from the ballgame to the combine to the pro day each time his bodies looked a little bit. Better thing Ryan day said which was interesting is you haven't. A guy looked so natural throws with such ease. Nothing about him seems forced why is that important for teams that are looking at him. Does that give you better sense of what kind of player he might be in the NFL if you can throw the ball? I don't have to change his mechanics. I can go actually to the football. Now key will tighten up as mechanics. He does have a little loop in his throw that you wanna make a little bit tighter. So there's less things that you have to change because an NFL offense. It's not going to be as foreign to him as we've seen the other college kids that is totally it's like learning Mandarin for the first time. But if I don't have to work on his foot work, if I don't have to work on his throwing motion, then I can concentrate on Xs and os and the football part. And because there's a part when you turn pro that they're going to knock you down you lose your confidence. But if I don't have to change my overall fundamentals and how I've learned to do things it helps me get up to speed with the learning that often and that alludes back to what we heard in the sound bite about six minutes ago when he was saying. I I'm ready for any playbook. If he already has a throwing motion in that. He doesn't have to rework, and if the mental part in the Xs and os, and the memorization that goes along with being an NFL quarterback if that's not overwhelming, then he's in a better position to I don't want to say be instantly successful, but to hit the ground running. He's in a better position to where. There's no part of it words like man, I'm still working on fixing. How I throw the football more has to or man. I can't just there's only a third of the playbook. I'm comfortable with calling in the huddle. Like, we see with a lot of young wanting doesn't have to work on. I think it's personality is for more dynamic and will fit into pro football a little more than Cuyler nothing wrong with being quiet. But when you are at quarterback, you have to have something about you have to have a presence about you. And that's what Haskins is what I've seen in him since he stepped foot on Ohio state's campus. It was evident is play last year when he threw for fifty touchdowns. And I think until NFL teams will see that. We've now seen. Produce from both Carla Murray and Dwayne Haskins. And I think you mentioned it is your prototypical quarterback and you're new age quarterback. And that's how you're going to differentiate between the two we'll talk much more about that on the other side. Get to some basketball. What advice is Coby giving LeBron about how to win titles in LA the next on one? You can always check us out on the Fox Sports channel on Sirius XM or Hooghly, right? That. Welcome back. We'll get to Kobe and LeBron in a second. But first jazz Knicks last night Donovan Mitchell hesitates on the dry finishes. Big though, Utah. Look good last night. Man. They went after the Knicks early. The Knicks have been playing some of these games were they you know, are little better than the record would indicate Utah was not having it last night in the guard that five three and the west is adjust logjams are Madsen blazers off the pick and roll. That's D Lillard finding Yousef Nurkic for the dunk. And then the staredown won't you to look back, man. Don't don't try to hide look back and say who dead it? I'll see what car get you one of the bigger tougher guys in the league his story. People say Nick look back at again, that's. The plane game last night. Wow. Saint John's Arizona stay that means Jimmy. Oh, I got it. From the visual off the mislaying AS use to Quan lake slam home, the put back James Harden's alma mater, gonna make it to the real insead tournament. Arizona state. We get that going tonight. There's a fun game. The better game of the two last night was the ones involving the two sixteen. But this was a fun game as well watch that while watching will NBA get it young fellow time now for your subway choice moment LeBron's for season in LA is almost over by everyone's account. It was not a success the goal now do better next year the question now, how Kobe Brian chimed in with some advice saying you just gotta keep pushing seasons. Like, this are what make championships worth. It's Nicola Bron ever win title in LA. Kevin Durant leaves the warriors. I think the answer's yes. And that makes Kevin Durant. As powerful this off season as any player as we've seen in recent. Isn't or forever NBA history? If Kevin Durant leaves the warriors. There will be ten teams that go into next season. Depending on how free agency falls with legitimate title, aspirations, the top the top half of the playoff teams in the east. We're talking about almost all the playoff teams in the west from this year. We'll see what the clippers and Lakers in free agency board about a third of the league that will go next same. Wait. We gotta star. We have a secondary star. We can go do this. If he stays in reupped. I know we've talked Kevin or and says what it just be for one year. What if he signs a real full extension with the Golden State Warriors that to me would all do everything but cross a line through LeBron James championship window because while I do think the warriors the Lakers are going to be much better next year too. I think they're going to be better enough next year to reach the gap. They currently have with Golden State. I don't they need Golden State to take a major step backwards which would. Losing Kevin Durant? And then also, of course at the star. So I has to be both. It has to be able to be. I don't think that the Lakers, even if they add Anthony Davis are in position with the coaching staff, and I know that will change with supporting players to go on a seven game series against rant Steph Klay, Draymond and beat them. So I'm not closing the championship window on LeBron. But Kevin Durant nod way has more to say about this than just about anybody in basketball. And I would say also if Kevin Durant decides to go to New York my question is this Kevin Durant win title before? Lebron because right now if I if I was if I was looking at everything that's been presented LeBron's hold career. How long he's going to build a remain this prime the Lakers. Are they going to be able to not only Bill to get one? These big free agents are pulled off the trade. But one of all those other important players that you need to build, you know, what type of style they going to play LeBron ages are they? Bill put enough defense around LeBron as he ages those things after depend on. So the answer to the first question is no, I don't think he's gonna win a title in Los Angeles. I'm not going to be depend on Kevin Durant. And I think Kevin Durant. If he goes to New York he'll win a title before. Lebron? We'll because I believe that someone else will join him in New York. Also that lottery pick whoever decides to get that Zion. That will play a role in it. But if it was just based on everything that I've seen the lack of confidence I have in the Lakers organization Bill to put those key four five benched players around. Lebron I would say, no. And then I would double down and say, I believe Kevin Durant is more lined up to win a championship. No matter where he goes and whoever he partners with then LeBron is in LA partner with someone. So basically be Durant and someone else who New York LeBron someone else in LA everything else being relatively. It's not letting the us still be right? Well, that's what I was about say. It's not like those two teams all of a sudden become well. Pencil. We're going to go Lakers NBA finals for the first time in over forty years. It would be those would be two of the teams. But then there'd also be Houston and Golden State as most likely the favorite. I think they would be the Vegas favorite as you mentioned. Yesterday, Denver's like is anyone ever gonna pay attention to us Portland? All of a sudden would see an opening. That's not even a mention, okay. See Yonathan going anywhere. We're gonna talk about Philly. Philly should only be better next year depending on if they can keep their pending free agents. Boston boston. We don't aid your step back. But there's a lot of we don't know because we don't know how agencies gonna fall, but this is where eighties such an interesting off season. Because if Katie stands, Pat, then the discussion is the same as it's been going into this year, which is whose who has who's the team that could win if something bad happens to the warriors if they falter if they have a bad luck injury timing something like that if that doesn't if he leaves then we're talking about like you said, wait what? A bigger draw LeBron in LA and New York. Hey, how will the original warriors look five years after the splash brothers burst onto the scene? All of that. Now, I do think LeBron is not done being the best player in the world. And I know he's not done being a top five player in the world. But as we've seen that's not enough right now, he needs another player and the role players that you're talking about who do you? Trust more Scott Perry in the Knicks when they have a huge draw Madison Square Garden. Coby also said he's Adam to list the players that would've liked to at some point play in Madison Square Garden NBA guys love the city and love the arena, even though there has been winning here. Trust Scott Perry and the Knicks more or magic point in the Lakers. More you have to trust Scott Perry in the Knicks. Moore's fours filling out a roster. So there's a lot of ifs that go along with LeBron's teen being not championship contender. But a championship favourite. I think they'll be a contender given health almost no matter what next year, but a favorite. A lot of Domino's have to fall into place. I think it's interesting that you play so much stock on what? Kevin durant? How big of a drop off? Do you think it would be for the warriors of Katie left? You don't think the warriors would still be the favorites out there if they hold onto boogie, and it's the team you see now, and they stay healthy. I mean, they're gonna have a hard time hold onto boogie and Kevin Durant. Is that type of player, let's say Kevin Durant state and Steph left they were still they would still be one. The better teams in le-. Let's say. Let's say Klay lease. And it was that they are that town now as far as LeBron lebrons. Go have a hill to climb next year to be on all NBA because Janas and K D like he's going to fight for one of them spots. I mean, he's not gonna make all MBA this year. I stated that's what I mean. What else will we talk about LeBron? He's not gonna make first team. Right. Because of those two and trying to get back on first team man, that's going to be a tough task is going to be sending a message no matter where he goes in Janas will be defending you know, the MVP from from this season. So. It's just not a foregone conclusion. Now, Nick might think that way that he's going to be all NBA and everything he's top five player. What you can be a tough. I didn't say foregone conclusion. I and be a top five player. Not the first. Okay. Well, let's just go with this right Steph. Yup. Joel Embiid Janas K D. Yeah. I've not I'm not ready to put Joel Embiid there yet. I'm ready that no matter despite what he did last night. I think we know I think you would agree with this the seven best players and basketball in any order or Steph, Katie Jaanus, Hardin, Anthony Davis coli and LeBron James those your top seven Joel is trying to get in my opinion, at least right down your list. But the players that have played the best, right? Joel Embiid would be in that for this. Right. And it all resets next year. Like, so this is I think we're talking about two separate things. I don't I don't wanna get lost in the weeds on that. We are in agreement that of course, it's a hill to climb and as far as Kevin Durant and his ability to remind people on. A singular level. How great he is that one of the attractions of going to New York. He's going to get more shots. He's going to be the featured piece even if he's with kyri Kevin Durant next year. If he goes New York, we'll be one of the preseason favorites for MVP because of that because he's going to be able to humiliate those counting stats accordingly. But there's the eighties. If he stays then we're having the same conversation, we've been having if he leaves the warriors probably are the Vegas favorite. But they're very close. It's warriors. It's the rockets Philly, it's Milwaukee there's a bunch of teams on that list. That's what's so intriguing about this summer. All right. Let's take a break. They're coming up lady. I'm vowel sounds off on Ben Ross leave it at that next. I things. Champ lamont. Peterson takes on surrogate opinions in a welterweight showdown. Eight is Sunday at six eastern only on one and the Fox Sports at time now for say. Fifteen seed Abilene Christian will take on to see Kentucky today in coach Joe, Golding fashioned choice might have fans split down the middle say. Written my pants. So I get back to Abilene. I haven't gotten a bonus shit either. I just found out. I don't get that till June. I think so I heard surveys gonna start a gofundme page, I appreciate it. You know and help I can give but. A went. We got one soup place in town. That's it once place that they couldn't get it. They couldn't get it done. I guess you gotta alter and do stuff. So I got one suit my man, I had to suits when the year started I left one in the airport. True story had to go to win plate Nichols state. And by by a suit or khaki, pants and shirt. I'm coaching them all in my baby blue suit, and I'm gonna have a whole new, but. Literally love this, man. I love that man. Because that's about as honest as it'll get coach cow. Got a him up. Right. He's got awesome coach gala on his. He's got more sued coaching college basketball this side of Jay, right? Yup. Yeah. Right. Who did you have a suit come on man have a jacket? Wait. Wait, hold. Did. You have when I met a ton because of my wife's business now. I didn't wear them often code. I had what what go ahead. Oh, yeah. Winter coat. You didn't have a winner. Oh, I didn't have a coat to wear on on television walking anywhere. Chris one of the first things he did for me all the economy doing sports coat doing rate. Hey, this is the true. It's a it's the truth. But you did get me a suit coat like a winter coat. That is true. I'd never owned. I appreciate you. See? All right. Help me out for years. Now. So altruism stores morning now Dwayne Haskins participate in Ohio state's pro day yesterday projected to be the second quarterback taken in this draft after cholera Murray. See where would you like to see Haskins end up? But I believe is going to be successful. No matter where he goes the giants. You can take you cannot scout them and not take. All right. Dolphins can take him. Because I believe they're why receiving core is a lot better than explosive than the weapons that they have with the giants. So I like those two destinations so giants. Do your homework. All right. You want quarterback of the future? Born and bred in jersey. It's hard to do it, man. He wants to be in New York. It would make sense for him to be a not. A quarterback that doesn't start day one. Because he had such limited experience giants sitting there at six. The jets have told little world that third picks up for grabs man move making New York New York trade move up to three take Haskins. That's ride like SIEM. It's where he wants to be. And would give the giants real plan. All right to the NBA. Now. Good news, James harden and fifty seven points last night. Bad news, James harden, still lost rockets fell to the grizzlies in overtime, Nick despite the loss. How impressive was this game? From harden harden was simply spectacular fifty seven. And it's just like, oh, yeah. Of course, twenty five in the first avenue. I thought when I saw the halftime line. Oh, you might get fifty fifty seven. He hit three free throws to force overtime, really tough. Call at the point one left in overtime that cost rocket this game. But man, every game matters right now rockets, they rested heir, Gordon. Overplaying the grizzlies. Okay. Yeah. Half game up now on Portland in in the west. So every game matters. But a great job by James the most imp-. Oppressive thing Jenna was for the last six to eight weeks. Everyone was sent me. And he keep up this pace. People aren't asking that question now. All right. We're in the middle of Martin he rose in fifty seven James hard, this one of the most impressive scoring seasons that I have ever seen. I finally Celtics and Sixers last night. Sixers hadn't beaten Boston yet this season jumped to the third quarter that guy right there. Joel Embiid watch him gets by Jason Tatum, finishes the end one he had thirty seven points twenty two boards on the night. Big energy getting the crowd involved less than a minute ago tied game. Ben Simmons hits the layup. And the foul shot down three now next possession. Kyri Irving driving denied by Joel N. Bead guy loves his defense, then Jimmy Butler nails the jumper with less than six seconds to go. That puts Philly up five Celtics led by double. Digits most of the first-half in this one. But the Sixers win it one eighteen one fifteen Nick how important was this win for Philadelphia. Biggest one of the season for the Philadelphia. Seventy Sixers locks up the three seat forum, which is critical in the Eastern Conference gives you a first round match up where you will be a heavy favourite and a guarantees. They will not have to play the Boston Celtics in the playoffs unless both teams make it to these turn conference finals. Boston's despite the win last night Boston is a bad match up for them. There's a reason that Boston going into this game at one ten in the last twelve at swept the season series. That Boston presents a lot of problems for them in if they had lost. They would be in the danger zone. They'd be only two up on Boston Boston, obviously would have the tiebreaker having swept the series so any Norma swin and the way they want obviously and bead was dominant. But how about Jimmy Butler seven points through three quarters? And then did what he needs to do. He was their fourth quarter answer with fifteen in the fourth. This was a critical win for Philly. They're not going to get. The two line. But now the guarantee themselves they won't fall to the four line their best win of the year. I thought it was important, of course, for obvious reasons. Because of the way Boston has dominated them, but the style for which they're going to play Joel be talked about it after the game. My goal round. Here is a score as many points and keep the teen in Jimmy Butler is going to be are closer is you so. The coach what he did last night was he took the ball out of Ben Simmons hand as far as running offense late but the ball and Jimmy Butler hand and allowed him to have that type of quarter. So for me what I like is you need to have some confidence. You can't say, oh, we're better than them. But Boston keeps beating the style for which they when Joel Embiid was a beast last night missed his first free throw then made twenty free throws in a row. That's why he's such a special player but close in and out with Jimmy Butler, keeping that style. Now these last ten or so games continuing to work on that Joel Embi attack in the first three quarters and Jimmy Butler finishing out. That's why thought it was important last night for the style for which they got the win. You mentioned ten of twelve Sixers to south just the fourth time in twenty five meetings to give that a little context. Why why does this Celtics team give the Sixers fits like this? They're MB graph game Horford does typically guard him well. In the case last night. Additionally, the Sixers biggest weakness is their depth. And the Celtics have a lot of depth. And I think the Celtics have decided coaching edge. But this is but they're not going to worry about him. Again. They're not gonna play the Celtics again this year. I think Celtics make Eastern Conference finals, and that's the only place they can play each other. If the Sixers also make these conference finals for the Celtics just like I said this guaranteed the three seat for Philly. This now guarantees the Boston is in that four five matchup whether the four or the five India, it's tough match-up for them because Boston with kyri on the point. And I'm not here just to bang on Ben Simmons, he's a defendant, but he can't guard kyri. So you can't take advantage of the defender that he is because he's going to be on someone else, and you can't hide JJ rid. All right. Philadelphia has a week bench. Boston's a lot deeper than nil and JJ Rettig. He is a mismatch going against anyone in the Celtics typically light to find him on that. Offensive in going against him. So that's been one of the big reasons because you can't hide them and Ben Simmons when he's garden against Kyrie. Did you so much pick and roll you can't take advantage? Typically been would be able to negate our slowdown the all the other point guards in the Eastern Conference. But he can't do that with Kyrie. It's just not a match up that is favorable for Philadelphia. Go ahead say we talk so much about teams. Now getting ready for this playoff. Push getting ready to go with the warriors and whatnot. The Sixers last night looked like a team that had the energy the wherewithal the right mindset to get ready to head into the playoffs. It seem more. So than the Celtics even though the Celtics were dominated in the first Celtics are in trouble. They've been the fifth seed all year long at some point people are going to start to believe they're the fourth or fifth best team in the conference. Marcus Morris was one of the best stories of the team up until New Year's day. Get fifty percent from the field. Forty five percent from three for Marcus Morris since then forty percent from the field in the low thirties from three was Jaylen Brown play last. Night. I know he was out there boxer. What did he do? Hello, Jason Tatum last night, having an impact and Marcus smart, listen when Aaron Baines is already hurt and Marcus Smart's one of their key player. That was a huge story. Can't get yourself kicked out of the game. It's a critic rat afterwards to kind it wasn't one of those guys going up for a layup. And you Fallon too hard in the refs gave you a week of flagrant too. You know, you're getting kicked out when you do this. The only question is will he be suspended that was enormous because when you were talking about been Simmons guarding Kyrie with Marcus smart off the court. They don't have a great answer for someone to guard been Simmons late in the game. Been Simmons gets the end wanted to give him the lead. They don't there's the Marcus Smart's mistake was huge. And the Celtics are who they are. They're a good not great team. That's that they'd been all year long and kyri lot appoints twelve twenty nine from the field. Even though we came in fresh because Rozier was playing the beginning of the fourth. It's tough loss for boss. Hi, Sixers avoid the season. Sweep they beat the Boston Celtics one eighteen one fifteen let's head to the NFL. Now finally got some insight into L Bell's decision to sign with the jets. The former Steeler running back sat down with SI TV in his first big interview since leaving Pittsburgh and had a lot to say about his time as a Steeler, his rumored weight gain his money. And of course, is relationship with Big Ben Rothlisberger. Like is like been. And then like GM. He's like is like they all their own same love with everybody else lower. Okay. So it's been the GM, and then all the rest of the players in a sense. Well, it's the vibe got if we're teammates were teammates all seeing all of us. And you felt like you weren't even with Ben. Been. Is banned has been to quarterback at the time. I'm thinking that's how supposed to be. He supposed to be like they'd right around quarterback leaders and. Quarterback. But it's like it's still use doing teammate. And then they. What I'm saying not Kevin coober? Things ain't Mr. Rooney. Yeah. I enjoyed teammates was not a factor. Why you didn't want to stay in Pittsburgh that was part of it? That's part of it. It was V factor factor. Yes. Relationship with them. And you wanted it to be different in the way. How would you like to be different been more open? More genuine are real exam. Like, we're friends. Teammates. And you did not feel that way. Markey's pouncey defended his quarterback on Instagram saying I've been with Ben going on ten years. I swear on my kids. He is a true leader sucks to see players who leave and are mad at the organization now try and point fingers like they're perfect. But this is the world we live in now artsy. There's a lot to take in there. What did you make of Livy comments? I thought it was unnecessary. At every NFL officers NFL facility, there's a pecking order, do you think element and Tom Brady on the same page when Bill Belichick talk the new like you think doing the same praise? We got Trent Brown come into the show later. You think that hit the conversations Brady was having with them? You take the same as avid. No, that's the normal way of doing business in any office or structure, there is a pecking order of doing things, I think that L bell. If they give him the guaranteed money. You know, something he wouldn't be saying that today. So that has a lot to do with. Now, if you're going to be teammates or close to a guy compared to are we going to be friends because I had a lot of teammates. I thought they were I thought they were good teammates. I wouldn't try to be friends with them, you know, as far as socially and everything and be involved in their life. No, that's all extra. Now. There was some guys on the team, man. We had a group of guys that man, we did all types of things together. But it's clicks in a locker room. You've got five or six different cliques of people hanging out. With each other. And what I know from been been is close enough to his teammates. But he wasn't close to two AB when close to L bail went close to them the offensive lineman. He is closer to him four hundred drinking buddies. They hang out with them everything. That's why you so that's why you saw pouncey yesterday. Come to the rescue to be like, no this guy isn't for an offense of Lyman been is a good leader. He plays hurt. He's tough. He's smart controllable, man. He can throw it about any part football in the critical moments. Third down fourth quarter will been come to it's been proven year after year. So if he'd gotten guaranteed money. Yes, is this structure in Pittsburgh, similar to those that I've seen around the NFL very very similar, and listen big Ben's, very smart about that that teammates that he will won't criticize publicly. We've we've spent so much time at his radio interviews, his press conferences, I can't think of a time where he's like what happened on that. Is somebody missed a block, and I got hit that why he never criticizes publicly the offense of linemen. So I think it's smart by him. It's genuine or not the guys who have the biggest issue of Big Ben on the team seemed to be guys that he will publicly criticize and or guys who also want a bigger share of the spotlight ovens stink talks about it all the time with us. They know they aren't going to be starring actors in their movie, they are always going to be supporting or unnamed characters that's the personality of them. But when you have personality in Tokyo Brown superstar wide receiver lady on bell superstar running back. I'm sure there's some natural bitterness of big being done share a lot of the glory gets a disproportionate amount of power within the organization. And why can't we be pals is on bells mindset? I don't there's a lot of to me very fair criticism. Big Ben a lot of which love it on this show. I don't think it's his responsibility be fringed with viane belt. I don't think it's his responsibility, by the way to knock himself down. Down a peg in the organization, if you wanna say the organization is elevated him above the coach, and that's problematic. He's elevated they've elevated him above the rest of us, and that's problematic. That's an organization complaint is not a nobody. Nobody's in the business of going to bosses say. Hey, guys. I think you treat me too. Well, I think you should I think I should my stature should be lessened. So of the criticisms of Ben Rothlisberger that are fair. I dunno that lady on bell was listing them right there. I understand he wants to eat. Don't hear him often come out and speak poorly of her blame or throw any offense lineman under the bus. I get that. But a big part of why Ben Rothlisberger is successful has been over the last couple years because of Antony Brown, and because of lady mbelle, and if he as we're hearing the rumors are he got what he wanted. He got rid of the two guys often criticizes got rid of his offense coordinator from a couple years ago. Todd Haley all the people that he has spoken out about. Now, you won't see. Okay. Ben, this this is the team that you seemingly want. There's no one else that you don't like there are no other sort of. Cancer's on the team if you will now let's see what you put together after. Correct. You there because it's not been disadvantaged inside who's going to get the money. He didn't decide the trait Davey demanded a trade. All right now, he did criticize the decisions as far as the coaches. But so did Aaron Rodgers. So we've seen quarterbacks players criticize it Ben has not selected the roster. Kevin Colbert, don't go to him say, Ben how are we going to dish out this money? So we can't put that responsibility on Ben Rothlisberger. That's not his responsibility. But was the culture he had created or the build up? Did it come to a head were it was well, you can either keep in Tony Browning? I think it I think that since certainly exacerbated the Antonio Brown situation. I don't think the lady on beltway Shen that was a contract dispute. I think been Rothlisberger. Now, maybe he didn't help into lady on bells warm and fuzzy feelings when he said all those good things about James Connor when he said, we're going to be fine. I think that's your point. But the lady on bell situation was money and Tonio Br. Brown. I think could have been solved by money. But it wasn't a pry money. Wasn't the initial factor. I think Antonio Brown. The initial factor was headbutting with him Big, Ben. But I haven't heard been Roethlisberger say, and I don't think we will that. He's glad those guys are gone. I think he knows they have helped him do his job. I think where he could have been better was on Ignalina Jing early on. They helped me do my job. Maybe I shouldn't throw Antonio under the bus when I throw a pick to a D lineman. Leon bell has been a great player for us. We want him to come back this year. Maybe I shouldn't publicly say we're gonna be fine, which we James Connor those types of especially because in that interview lady on made it clear, he didn't really have a great plan as you were talking about all last year. He didn't know going into it. I'm going to sit out this week that we come back here. So maybe some of those comments when he's like I'm gonna come back after week one. Maybe that's one of the reasons he didn't come back as early as he said he thought he was maybe going to and then didn't like there wasn't a lot of logic. Let's not get away from what? It's been number one responsibility. When he was drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers, and we should note this Pittsburgh Steelers, create the culture. All right. Been Rothlisberger rolled into that culture. All right. Mike tomlin. Kevin colbert. They create the culture we can't blame that on Ben Rothlisberger. Now been are there. Is there a difference between great leadership leadership styles? Yes. But his number one responsibilities to lead to football team, which he did when they were defensive dominated and led them to a Super Bowl. He made sure they didn't blow it and then after that been led them to the Super Bowl. So you'll number one responsibility. Regardless of what your Simon is to do your job. And that's the delivered a football to the players who deserve to be able to get the football or the way to coaches that played. So we can't distort this. We starting to talk about a lot of different stuff. I can play with been rothlisburger. He no reason why because he's a damn good quarterback. And he can deliver the mail where the ball, but he needs to be delivered. And I played with a bunch of bad. Dan ones. So let's not get that mixed up as we AB wining and took himself out of Pittsburgh ale. Bill because he didn't get the guarantees. He's out of Pittsburgh. That's not been Roth as burgers fault. It's a fair point. All right. Take a break coming up much more from lady and sit down that's ahead on first. Welcome back to first things. First MBA, Stephen Jackson joins the unhappy engineers where it is President Obama suit. I like Sears spree team on this set. And it's very nice to see. Everybody's looks nice. Yes. Bring us all down with my black. Thank you in LA is almost over. And by everyone's account. It was not as successful one. So the goal right now. Try to do better next year the question right now. How are we going to do that Kobe Bryant chimed in with some advice saying you just gotta keep pushing seasons like this or what makes championships worth it? All right. Steven you think LeBron will ever wanna title in Los Angeles. One it's playing I think he's I think he's still good. I mean Kobe giving them the best vice you can give you came out. You did what you could. Obviously the team wasn't the team. You wanted it to be going to go into the playoffs. So just deal with it happens. A lot of players a lot of top five top ten players have season where it didn't make the playoffs. So this is not that they know they're going to build this team. They know they're gonna bring some players in do what you've been doing great off seasons working, but often something be buried for next year, in your opinion aside from obviously stay healthy. What's the biggest thing? Lebron should do if you were giving him advice differently next year nothing. This man spends millions of dollars on his body every year, there's nobody in greater save. Now he had the Android ship. But that's far the time. This guy's been in the fines what seventy eight years. So it happens. It happens this'll fluke injuring, and it wasn't that serious. You know, it was more of holding him back for the playoff run. So I mean, do do the same thing you've been doing all these years. You don't do. Nothing different. You still great. You're gonna be better next year. If it was me, I give him some suggestions. And number one thing would be as body. I would try to get my weight down his lowest possible as you get older your joints can't take the type of impact that it's so for me. I know he spends a lot of money with this trainer. I would try to come down with an ideal different weight because as you get older you need to play with less weight compared to move more. Wait, another thing. I would try to go back to working in the low post. We know you're passing skills are great. We know you ball handling is great. But I would go back to working into the post because that would be something that I could rest on offense of in or it would provide another weapon if I surround myself with all these shooters LeBron in the low post is dangerous, and he's also you can be playmaker from the low post. And then the third thing to Bill finish out my career. He's got a build shoot free throws better. Because in those critical games is going to come down to him build a make free throws drawing. Drawn fouls and get into that free throw line. So even LeBron James one of the greatest basketball players ever. There's three things you need to do a mmediately. Now, it might be five pounds. It might be a couple percent of body weight. But as you get older, your body cannot take it if you look at the greatest players that have ever played what did they do late in the game? Kobe was different in his fifth championship. Tim Duncan was different not only style game. But his body weight was different for that fifth championship. He got call him alone. Is he got older he didn't get bigger, man. He stayed in Shaka's. Karl Malone could run he ran that court. That's one thing that sack. That's what rob sack. He went the other way with it got bigger instead of just have not seen plagues. All right now, regardless of what sport they play as they get older you have to look at my ideal weight is not my ideal weight anymore. I'm thirty four thirty five thirty six I need to be able to get down to something where I could function. That was something that really helped me my training staff. We got. Down to two hundred eleven pounds when I had been the league's sixteen years. All right. And that was the nice down from where see it was down from fifteen. Okay. So I have played his highest to eighteen but at that point it was time to drop down. And man, I hadn't been that low since my first few years in the league. So your weight the same way your first five years in the league waste going to be totally different then in your prime meal career. But at the back end man help you help your body. Help your joints out the free the free throw part. That's guaranteed. You shouldn't even have to say that we consider them the best plan league. You gotta make free throws. I don't think I don't think at this point in his career. You can get that. If you ain't got an all those big games. You didn't play in. I don't think that's going to get bad. I think that's just him. Folks. You can't practice on that. You gotta just lock in. No. Because he don't have a good routine. He's not comfortable at the free throw line. It's too late to change it. Now, we're in the how you get better, man. Everyone's trying to either you getting better are you're getting worse. So if he doesn't do that. And I believe that that would be I don't think the Brown is that way when LeBron looks at his game. You look at the weakest part of his game right now is free throw shooting. So what good does it do to draw all these files and Goto the whole if I'm not going to be knocking wish I watched Joel Embiid last night twenty seven to not down twenty in a row, but we win league. Now where you got shooting for is get Hackensack Rogerson, and okay Hackensack? And so it's a different league. Now, the other aspect of this is things that are not in his control as far as will. He win a title. You guys talked about things he can control his body working on his free throws things such as that. I thought you might mention different ways to approach the young players. But I guess we don't even know if those young. If they make the for Anthony debt windows passed to do that what? Windows at guy. So listen your pals with Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant things. I always talk negative about him gave Kris Jenner the stink at Knicks game. Because I talk negative about them. I'm gonna say some very nice about Kevin Durant here. Kevin during all right now. Right now has as much power over the league as any player has ever had going into offseason. And it's if he stays in Golden State, then this question might be a moot point if he stays in Golden State, LeBron plus Anthony Davis owning that's enough. You would need to hit a grand slam home run this off season kyri and Anthony Davis. And then maybe you can be the second favorite to win the title. But if Katie leaves and comes here, we got ten teams that go into next year thinking week and win the title that the Vegas. Odds will be a stacked as they have been since the NBA Jordan's first year of retirement when there was eight nine teams that legitimately felt they could win a championship, and it would get back to the era basketball when you first came in where to be a title contender. He needed to great players and good supporting cast like that's what Katie is the power to influence if he makes the move to New York City. I agree. But we talk while abroad. I really worry about Katie LeBron for the most part don't like you say okay free throws. That's what they can work on your game. But as far as the way he approaches every season. I don't think anybody does better. You know, he locks in the summertime you come back. Like, if they would have made that trade, we wouldn't be talking about none of this stuff. No. I would still be talking about because you'd be like LeBron do down the stretch. I'd be like man, I'm concerned about his weight. I'm concerned about the mount of force on his joints. All he's never been injured. Okay. Well, everyone's don't get injured. And see to that the frito suit. And I've been on that forever man, because I'm Jay guy. And this game wells down to it to end. I'm draw me how and I'm going to go to the free throw line is to simplest form basketball hound going to win. They call them free. A reason if you're a seven footer you got John Norma's hands I'm willing to make some concessions for you. But man when you six eight and you'll you by building we about who's the greatest player in the world and one guy suits eighty percent. One guy's seventy fifth. Stop man stop. That's a real thing. Just real quick on your weight point. It's something LeBron's down in his career as far as depending on the type of Sally wants play. We saw going into year two in Miami. When he was going to make the commitment to go into low post. He came in bigger than any point in his career. We saw him his first year back in Cleveland. He's slimmed down a lot. So he has shown the ability to change weights. And if you're right that he that he needs to get back to around the weight when he came into the league, let's say this. We saw him get hurt at this week. All right. Let's just say well. What was the right weight? This weight are get heavier are lose weight with Chris it definitely not get heavy. Okay. Then let's just do some common sense as you start to get older, your body cannot take the impact on your joints. He is human just like everyone look at any cross sport. Look at Lee of the Lee and look at them and see what size. They are. Wait there at Tom Brady. What h l think he's at right now and physical shake tease in. He's a lot lighter than he ever was where he's younger to he's got a fountain of youth going there. But this is this is what is happening all sports. Lebron James, and I just like I tell kids I coach what do I need to do to get better? And I are you going to listen to me. So yes, why would never tell you to do something that you couldn't do LeBron James can do this. That's why would said that because he has done it when it Miami. He went to riding his bike. He got leaner. There are other times where he balked because of the style he is capable of doing if he wants to be the greatest player ever he's going to have to win another championship. And he's going to have to come up with a different style. To build a finish off his career. All right. Steven seal, but later on in the show coming up on Bell's best football still be you can say. Back here. First things first so last season trim Brown was the starting left tackle for the Super Bowl champion New England Patriots this off season he signed a four year deal making him the highest paid offense of linemen in the league Trent Brown joins us now Trent good morning. Thanks with us to the show, man. Thanks yet. Uh? Thank you. Well, first of all it's great to have your as I mentioned before. Definitely the biggest guests, but you're the soft giants seeking here. You're so quite and sort of understated, and it goes along with your story. Seventh round pick to become the the highest offense of lime in NFL history. How much does that mean to you? It took a left me to get here. Didn't take it for granted any opportunity was. Definitely granted with open arms. And here we are where we were just ten months ago was a very different place, the commentary to be fair, you were in my mind. One of the biggest question marks for the patriots solar leaves Isaiah win. They draft pops his achilles. And it was a relatively unknown player. Seventh round pick plane. Cisco Trent Brown is going to be protecting. Tom Brady's blindside how much of that conversation where you aware of. And why do you think you were able to thrive? So I would say almost instantly once the season got going. I think it was a part of the organization they fully believed in you confidence was through the roof. And I was able to play my game. We did things that were played into my strengths. What what were those things? What do you mean? By that on this how we prepared the Ren game and the past petition I think earlier in the season they relied more on a quick passing game. Allowing you to get very very comfortable. Also, they didn't give you a lot of hill guy that young a late round draft pick thrown into Trey with Jimmy Garoppolo. Typically, you would think that tight end they will go left side and tied in would be next to you know, that's not what New England they put you on that island. And you earn your keep. But as the season went on it seems like that they thought that you might be a better run blocker. And then you guys started leaning on people in mass and people did you see your confidence? Once you start the season playing in that system gain momentum as the season went on most definitely, and I feel like we started clicking awesome. These at the right time as a as a whole group though ninety we do. Well, go ahead. Jim is there pressure on a New England patriot offensive lineman. To make sure nothing ever happens to Tom Brady. I mean, you hear all these stories that this organization goes through this quarterback. How much pressure is on that line? Whoever's back there, you wouldn't do your best to keep them up right in the playoff for on. What was so remarkable was the number of dropbox Brady had without getting hit. He was sacked going into the super. I think one time he goes playing some very good pass rushers. I the chiefs didn't have a highly ranked. It's one thing they did. Well, was get to the quarterback how much of that was schematics karnicki and the in Josh mcdaniels game plan, and how much of that was you guys is going out there and execute it. Can come. Listen of all those things. Everybody was prepared. Everybody was well prepared and ready to go. Now, let's go from a because everyone wants to know about Tom Brady, man. We can't have you here unless we talk a few questions about Tom Brady because we have some other people questioned other leadership. We have known Tom Brady to be one of the great leaders in the NFL. How was his leadership and give me some examples of things how Tom endeared himself to his teammates. Is only one is to give. I mean, he's layby day in and day up. He approached the day how he approached practice ever. Remember getting to the office before Tom Brady? No, remember yourself being there long after Tom Brady was left office unless it was injury or something. So when you say when you say lead, by example every day, obviously, that's not just on Sundays on the field. What when you say lead, by example in practice. What does that mean for people that haven't been out there? Explain to us what you mean by that. I mean, just taking advantage of all time every rep counts for sure and even between when we go from Austin PD defense period. He's finding something to do some work on tell me something you learned from Tom Brady that you'll take with you now to the raiders something that maybe eve never had another quarterback. Teach you in the way that he plays the way he preaches the game on definitely how these life into the in the huddle commands the huddle and. We break the huddle you ready to play for sure what type of excitement do you have because you made to transition in San Francisco, you're trying to cut your teeth. There. You get man. You get your first opportunity, man. Then you're involved in a trade you're going to New England. And I know you had to be scared. Okay. Because people young players think that is the evil empire. And you get there and been like, wow. This is okay. Now, you're in Oakland. You heard John gruden's voice in Seattle that they how much are you looking forward to playing in that open. And now, you're not just a part of a main attraction every week people going to be interviewing are you ready for that type of attention? Definitely ready to play for coast grew in full of energy breeze license life into the team for sure can't wait to do start. It. I received much attention, but I'm a pretty poise guy. And I think I may for for you. What was your reaction to with the Antonio Brown part of this as him coming over to the Oakland Raiders? And being a part of you. We come the big free agent acquisition. He is the big trade acquisition and an offense that could be very different than the one. That was their last year. We kind of grew close to each other. Now the same as about a year ago. From we had a workout marito's, Danny Miami. And I was just finished my second workout. He was probably starting his ninth detained today who who knows with him. But. It definitely played a role some excitement there. Definitely a playmaker. A guy that you've definitely be wanting to get the ball to. So you mentioned sorry just real quick Antonio's ninth or tenth eight it seems like even amongst hard working athletes. His workout regimen is legendary that amongst even of the elite of the elite. There's something about how and how often and the way in which he works out that is special knowing him now for a year plus having worked out with them. Can you eliminate that a little bit? I mean, you see it every day on social media. He he lets you see it's real. Yeah. And the facility they work out down there in Florida. They get it done. They've been doing it probably does been doing it and doing it at a high level. Do you think that right now because Oakland, you know, not a lot of positive attention coming out of Oakland? How do you look is far as getting everything positive as far as the silver and black in the row that you're going to play trying to bring winning football back to Oakland? I think I just play my game. And and do what I do not try to. Do more than play outside of myself. Just do a got me. You got a non football question for you. Because your story people. I think fans think everyone plays in the NFL's rich seven around pick. Your salary times public that is not too nice living. But it's not I'm going to retire after a few years nothing close to it last year. Thank you made the most you've ever made in your Kerr's couple million dollars. Again, that's a lot of money. But you're twenty four years old get another sixty plus years ahead of you for you now to be in this position outside of football financially. What are the lousy you to do the freedom the lack of stress that part of your life now being removed, or whether it's things you can do for the people you love have you had a moment to reflect on all this work has led now to this moment for me off the field, and what it opens up for the rest of my life. Definitely appreciate the humble beginnings. Appreciate the security that I have now. And I'm trying to get another one on this salute is just the beginning. Yeah. That's always tell the young kids man, if you under- the age of twenty five, and it gives you a bunch of money, man. This is just beginning you need to go. Get you another sixty million. So good luck to you, man. Glad you came on the show looking forward to watching your career blossomed. Thank you. What are you looking forward to more Oakland or maybe a little Vegas because the necklace says Vegas one being but the demeanor says Oakland? Recited to play in the black hole. 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Best Of (LeBron's Lakers, Durant, NBA player power, Carson Wentz)

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Best Of (LeBron's Lakers, Durant, NBA player power, Carson Wentz)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host Jenny Taft. This podcast is a condensed version of today's episode of undisputed handpicked with the best segments and discussions skip Shannon. Let's go to the N._B._A.. Lebron missed the playoffs for the first time in fourteen years but his Lakers sure do look a lot different now. Anthony Davis boogie cousins Danny Green and a host of others others are on board now to help the king and anonymous exact told E._S._p._N.. There's no question this is a much stronger team. That fits around Lebron better. We're joined by F S One N._B._A.. Analyst Stephen Jackson Good Morning. Thanks for being I'm here with us. We've been debating this all morning. Skippers thinking maybe the sixth seed Shannon of course is predicting much higher for the Lakers. Where do you think that lend up the anonymous source stuff? It's just drives me crazy. It's fun to read. It's definitely fun is definitely fun. I'll say fifty I say fifty the way the team they have they have everything can come together fifty one team. They say everything come together all they're gonNA get US fifty. Yes yes best case what we got. Would you won't put on their put some money or whatever you want okay a lot of yourself. Cold hard cash got a couple of hundred years at least fifty wins. I I just think everything has to come into place like I said yesterday. Injuries come into play team team bonding guys buying in all that stuff new coaches a lot of stuff has to come together for you to have that season. I've been there in it was Antonio. A lot of stuff had said got hurt in the playoffs. A lot of stuff day day was down. Emily grows stepped in and play big year. Tony Parker was was not Tony Program that he is today and speedy claxton stepped up so a lot of things have to work. They have everything there but like this new coach new players if everything works they can have a great season blasting fifty wins right now. I'm going to that yeah. This issue going better. Look okay. Lonzo Ingram was twenty eight ten and eight eighty comes in twenty six twelve and four. I like that you look at the guys avery Bradley and Danny Green. They're more quick. They made big shots. They've taken big shots. They played them bigger games. I like that AIDS fragile eight hundred got New Orleans net cooking. You Eat Gumbo and jump relying too fast. That's the food that keeps you going on the south. You know know you an athlete's performance car. You'll Ferrara. You can't put regular gas enough for our bill. You can't you can't do it. You know the awful works wonders. If you form what would what would you run up and down that court so Everyday's Zion by June ah was on eating Jumbo Gumbo everyday things killed in an I agree with you guys defining roles guys accepting and understanding the roles boogie <music> Boogie can't come in thinking. He's the same boogie that he left in Sacramento or his first year New Orleans Kyle Kuzma look. I understand because you know what happened to work. They never happened a guy when he started where we're colby. He he called the mob mentality. He's he will get twenty two shots at night and he will score twenty six tonight now bro that doesn't happen like that. The office got to go through Lebron A._D.. I they eat for they get the big piece of chicken. You know daddy used to get the big the biggest man he's got the biggest chicken Okay Okay A. D. Lebron they get the big pieces and then everybody else we got enough. We got enough for you but you just can't get the big pieces. We're going to be just fired at therapies is important. Oh don't worry about it. We we don't get some bands. We will get the Bay makes you. Hey you two six by the way just quick point of order on the food issue. You just brought up yet new Orleans versus L._A.. I used to think that L._A.. Was the health food capital of the world old until I moved here. This is way back in the nineteen seventies and I soon realized there's more high calorie food available in Los Angeles anywhere you got in and out. You got all kinds of twenty million people of course. I know I'm just saying thank. You can't go the wrong way when you come to L._A.. On Your Diet I'm just saying okay so speaking of anonymous quotes. I'm going to reiterate the last one in Bryan wind horses piece again from an anonymous N._B._A.. Executive but his last line is a lot of things would have to fall in place for them to win it win. It and that's our bottom line is win it right because I'm going to forty nine wins because I remind everyone they only won thirty seven seven games last year and they did have Lebron James for fifty five of them <hes> whereby Okay Lebron's the best player on the planet according to you run into playoff activation mode in late March and and they lost twelve in the next fifteen games. Where was that guy? I mean what happened here. You know they did they. They lost what twelve or fifteen he just average doubling. Their Ingram didn't step allows ever his fault. Oh skip. He always gets to blame because that's what you mentioned. You didn't mention it. Light Lebron is the Lakers like anybody else you say he activated and they they lost twelve or fifteen. I didn't say he activated. He said I'm activating okay so so. Did anybody else activate. I don't know the man had robin the one the twins who activated <music> who was the Falcons who was the war imagine about a debate we magic Johnson gave him nothing but playmakers last Rondo and Lance in Vail and in for a while TV series playmaker. They say everything you needed. That's that's what he said. You know I think Lebron signed off on everything. He needed to start the year. I thought he was good to go. No no they finish. They finished eleven games behind a clipper team. It did not have number two or Paul. George Eleven Zodiacal play the same type of so many events everything so everything has to go right for the Lakers. Everything does a thank you. That's all my point. So what does there's nothing to go right for the Utah Utah automatically there. Nothing has to go right for the nuggets. Oh they automatically there. Nothing has to go right for the clippers automatically going down the line. Everyone got to chat just keep going yeah look Toronto. Something had to go seriously seriously wrong for Golden State at his career seriously seriously right but Toronto if something had to go seriously right for number two because he got there just as Lebron James Went West right I don't kit with anybody says we'll never know but I feel very comfortable out of bed everything that I own. I only got much older Lewisham L._A.. We'll start with we know we know I would have been everything I own that with a healthy K. D. and to help Clay Toronto getting thank you question you know what I would bet everything I own than if Lebron had stayed in Cleveland with the same cast basically they're going to win the east again I would have made him the favourite okay but they make it seem like only the Lakers need things to go favorable in order for them to win everybody. Everybody Okay so look at all the issues he's going to face right out of the box new head coach. I don't think he's going to have a lot of respect for him. But what do I know no he never do Lebron tests the new head coach every first year head coach where we gotta measuring what he's the world to know. Will you should because Lebron. I'll bet you right now. Lebron's got a whole lot more basketball I._Q.. Than Frank Vogel does and I respect Frank Vogel but he ain't Lebron when it comes Mr knowing basketball okay. So how do you coach that guy. Jason Kidd knows basketball yields do okay. That's a click. That's a match. What are we gonNA do just like we talked? We talked around David Blatt talking the Tai Lu around the Conan the J. Okay and you know what will happen come. They were first somewhere. Frank Vogel will have to take seats number two down the bench and they're going to elevate. Jason Kidd to see one. Maybe Frank Stays on the staff is assistant. I don't know but just watch by February. Thanks to quiet passive aggressive pressure issued by Lebron James on those upstairs they will demote Frank Vogel or fire. He's going to be it'll be it'll be going along good. We got ninety three octane. They never in good shape. Jason Kidd for reason yeah you know he's there for security. Well what it should have done. Go ahead hi. Lou and we go and get the championship out of it. We had the coach Book Book you right now. We are at t Lou. No you wouldn't yes. I would have Jason Kidd. It goes head coach in February. Has that ever happened. Midstream Change Coaching win. The title is really the head coach anyway. Is this be real if you look at the team and you've been around the game you see what they doing on. He is really the head coach okay so Stephen Jackson knows a little little about playing defense and I ask you who exactly is playing defense when you have Lebron and demarcus in Calcutta on the floor at the same time A._D.. Taber Bradley or Danny Green Okay but if you start burning point yeah I got I go work but definitely agree for Dana Griego going to part the point when when the last time you seen Danny Green this is my guy one stop somebody Abra brand asking first of all ain't nobody beginning now standing and so my question win the last time Danny Green stops somebody. That's a great question question. No no no don't you can ask a question with a question. He answer my question. He's not what he wants was but the great. Great opposite players Know Great Defense Cooperation Down Lebron to why stopping James Harden this is not about great defenders. Don't worry about stopping by making it difficult if you make it difficult. I still get my thirty. What have you doing no that's not making GonNa Difficult is when you add twenty five making your sixteen seventeen who we was doing that in the league? We was making it difficult on bad percentage. y'All y'all y'all guys I face Lebron couple of times. I want to know do you where the game that's what it's about that work but you know that's the team Utah who you stop but his team won its team defense too okay okay that is okay but you have to have guys. That's GonNa initially take take the challenge Patrick Beverley. You gotTa have guys like that. That's going to take difficult here's U._k.. Stop Lebron pitstop Katie he but he made it difficult Katie yes he did. He made the difficult he competed made the difficult and a major fifty. That's why they was in the series passing but it didn't take that's that sounds at the beginning they wouldn't even have been a sweet and finally Shannon Sharpe. What will the Bronco Benjamin Button next year and start getting younger in age than his? We'll bring you may really really. Did you see him in the gym him. He just posted. We really some of that old footage he do. He put a lot of stuff in the Kane is released a whole different Ryan talking about wearing a headband. He's am I going to be Kong food. Bruce Lee Braun Bruce Lebron Bruce Lebron the coming in all right up next is all the fresher on the run next season. We're going to debate that one undisputed return the imagine this your favorite team is playing. You're in bed. The snacks are ready. Your remote is in hand but you can't get comfy. Avoid this game day catastrophe by upgrading your sleep environment with an adjustable <unk> base right now during mattress firm's fourth of July free free free event you can get an adjustable base to pillows and mattress protector for free when you spend just seven hundred ninety nine dollars not only will these free bed accessories upgrade your sleep game but you'll enjoy the real game to time to talk about the Guy Shannon loves to call the goats earlier this week our friend Chris Haynes reported the Lakers will start Lebron at point guard next season. He's coming off a year where he played a career career low fifty five games and missed the playoffs for the first time since he was twenty years old so fast forward to this year skipping pressure is on the bronze season. The most pressure on of any player in all of sports will be on Lebron James next year. I think you know this down deep in. You have been exerting it all morning because you're predicting a championship for this team. You're raving about the roster that love it Rob Pelinka ah filled out on the scramble mode right. Yes okay so you have been saying fifty six wins two seed championship. Yes and I think a whole lot of people are jumping aboard your bandwagon. I told you earlier earlier in this show I almost feel sorry for your man Carson Wentz limpet to him wince but in this case I do feel a little sorry for Lebron James Because think of what just happened he went from the butt of jokes all last year to suddenly flipping around two best player on the planet on the team. Many people believe will win next year's championship because he added Anthony Davis right so last year there was a blooper correal circulating a video and we've got like a mini version of doom. I don't know if you saw where it had. All the low points all the low lights linger season to the music one shining moment the vandross in we have just a few with them if we could just show them right now. These are a few of the low lights that we just experienced last season. That's Lebron off the backboard on the inbound and we got Lebron being shown by Guzm out to the three point line to play a little bit of defense for once we got Lebron rolling the ball up up the floor and rolling it and rolling it and rolling it in off his own foot out of bounds that's ugly and then we got of course the Zonja block who and we you gotTa Zonja. He stared him down after that. Mary walked off the court. Lebron was down on one knee just stared him down. He got blocked. That's that's the game winning shot blocked nose. Give all growing this year. No more excuses excuses this year. The honeymoon is over this year. He has everything at his fingertips he could ask for this year. Space Jam will be in the can write. 'em Too so you got it all behind you and the world will expect what Lebron posted what was it two three weeks ago comeback season for the ages payback. He's exerting expectations on himself which I admire but now the world will embrace those and and now he's got a live up and it's year seventeen. It's his age thirty four season. Michael Jordan four made first team all defense and led the League in scoring but maybe with this is maybe this is the epiphany that I was seventeen something Lebron James Phil since he was seventeen years of pressure because that's when they started have is in this game I would agree the guy that put chosen one on his back the Gaddi with number one overall in the draft in two thousand three skipping pressure. Yeah I game at Sacramento Remember. What do you go for twenty five? The savior is something that the man is dealt with since he was seventeen years of age and it's funny skip how Lebron now thirty four seventy seventy thirty four K magic number where number seven right in them no be worried. Let's get look this is Lebron. We know what comes along with these great players is finals super bowls of world series a bust Larry Bird Magic Johnson Michael Jordan has these expectations every single year and if you didn't get that no matter what you did it wasn't good enough. That's what Lebron James is up against heat skill why you think you see all this player movement because they hear you okay Golden State geared up to stop him swooped Luke Paul George to stop this great in by the way he just got called out by number two basically he just number two said. I don't WanNa play with you. I want to team up with my so cal. L. And we're going to go against you in your house. It's the ultimate throwdown challenge. What are we doing? I'm impressed we do this. We read. Let you know you in a house. Dog will fight hard at his homes. That is correct but it's their home to that too. Yeah you pay. This is like your dogs fighting. I don't think your dogs it would be a mismatch first of all they are. Tenants attendant is not an ownership. You cannot be an ownership hip position really they are tenants in our building. I think that they would say that. The Lakers are also tenants in that building. We stay you'd think staples <hes> you don't think clippers you think of the Lakers. Now that's true go quickly. Well you look at the only one of the I think he's number two. It's all sports go down Playa Vista Bill to build a stadium out there. It's the fans you get okay is us and Iran Jane. There's no pressure skip bayless. There's always always pressed Lebron and he's always met the challenge and I see this. You'll be no different the only difference between this year last year we are the champions going to be played in the background. Okay so you always tell me it's all about X.. Back taste correct yes when I got there will be no higher expectations on anyone then on your man. I love your do you yes. I'm not sure he can live up to it as he turns thirty four years of age in his thirty five hype Yeah Oh he's thirty four now. That's right so we consider it as thirty five year old season. That's that's really good. Oh Madda doesn't not does not matter skin. May you know what's going to happen in this is his honeymooners as overseas and this is he didn't have a honeymoon going honeymoon down. I logged any was last you know. Sometimes you know you get mad money. You know you don't have the money you don't have to go to the justice little piece you say baby at a later the entire. I'm going to take you on that dream honeymoon. You deserve to go to Maui. You deserve to go to Tahiti or wherever you want to go I would mall Div Twenty eight and twenty seven as a starter for lashes. Lakers is a honeymoon going to hang in Brentwood up on the deck right smoking cigars sipping wine cellars yeah yeah we have some careless and we have some troops okay so. Are you going to bounce back comeback season for the ages this year here. It's all on him. He's the guy don't call it a comeback. We've been here for sixteen years really we were not. You're missing in action last year. I don't care the Beatles didn't put out a number one hit every year well they did too. They did not put up four year. Stop that what they even put here for fourteen years that loan I give you that they know they broke exactly. Heckling yolks that she ruined the greatest thing ever love Yoga though that they got tied up so this is it you you've predicted it so you're you're the principal pressure exerted right. You still got him winning the championship. You want to back off. ooh That's expectations. That's the expectation that we say. Let's make sure that when we win this title do do me a photo or Lebron. Go and get this thing. We're GONNA be drinking wine smoking cigars knife. Oh Bala probably some Bennett opus or something like that. We'll miss what silver oak that's beneath us. Why don't you just go for the Yak? Not Another though you we we don't celebrate you try to get a dog. We wanted to join the moment that you take that yanked to. They're trying to join the moment you forget the moment. You realize you're on this. Is it Yeah F you've gone from blooper reel to champion today. We got Abie. We would have loved to have skip bayless now. I'm not GonNa sit here and tell you that we wouldn't but I take eighty nine. I'm not disappointed that I have okay like Boogie. I liked the dishes. I love with Rob Pelinka. Did LET'S SEE HOUSTON UTAH Denver Portland San Antonio there by the clippers they go back to the and the Clinton actually take a back seat we drive it and and didn't even bring up the Pelican skill. You don't think they're going to do some damage team. Who He'll sleep steals snow day Cinderella Sleet Snow White Skin Liger right now we in the cab? They all autism you are we we drive it yeah getting back. Okay get back. WE GET HOLD OF UTAH. Could You keep talking about Utah Utah. Mike Conley. You don't put anything on his endeavor. We will get number two. I love joker but job Outta jail really boogie deal last time to leave it here. No mercy we all know that Kevin Durant is in Brooklyn now but apparently the nets found out about his decision at the same time. The rest of us did G._M.. Sean Mark says they learned Katie chosen the next when they saw the instagram post marks added quote. We all got that in real time with you guys. We weren't even Sir if we were getting a meeting that night or a telephone conversation with him interesting stuff shannon. How do you explain this? I explain it like this. He was leaving Golden State. Come hell or high water. It became a but that's abundantly clear skip hip now for me. This is very very odd. Never heard anything like this. How do you accept skill you go to a job? You wouldn't even know they have opening you. Let me go interview for the job. You show them to work out here. I just try to think about the jobs. Give you go up here to go to work. So who are you at this at this job here. I'll skip this. I can't believe this mad takes a decision like this. Kevin Durant it does not interview. He does not me. He does not call one day warning with skill. Sorry becoming you minute ride this day forty plus you. You never heard anything like this. He's like imprinting so you know everybody wants to be wooed. <hes> you know they fly. That's True Bay Flying Cross Twenty Golden State got on a plane called the Hampton fire with Steve Kerr. It's killing the plane and flew from San Francisco all the way to the Hamptons six hours to Kevin Durant. Everybody was coming in and meeting Ron when he went through it in twenty ten. He was Chicago in the Knicks in the heat of this Yada Yada. We hear all these meetings taking place wining and dining. Kevin Durant doesn't take a meeting Kevin. Durant doesn't call anybody Kevin Iran's puts on instagram. I'm siding with Brooklyn. Wow then did it actually forty five minutes ahead of the opening of free agency really it. That's why you can't do tampering how you tavern with somebody. You've never had a conversation with. How do you tell someone you never got a meeting with? He's there. I'm coming to you you. We Joke Oh by skip. How Lebron knocked no magic door yeah but really it's about this? This is unbelievable and lease Lebron talked to magic at least magic within his driveway waiting for the starter frizzy knocked on the door goes inside Kevin rationality do none of that. This is what I know. I'm leaving Golden State and I'm going here or I'm going there and what's it became clear that I don't know what transpired to that leave unless you're no mix trying to save face because he didn't give the Brooklyn Esa meeting you GonNa take. We're a little leery about signing because of injury. No you weren't Kevin Durant made it abundantly clear you go into the nets and so you try to save face it. Well we were we we were looking at the medical. We couldn't see him. He signed with Brooklyn without an interview and they'd say no medical record. They didn't even see him so let alone the record this is I've never heard anything. I've never seen anything like this and I'm from the country and ain't never heard like this boon. <hes> I have never heard or seen anything like this in all my years covering the N._B._A.. And and that's because I'm not sure I believe it really there were rumblings. The next day or two after the free agency period opened that the in city rival Knicks would file tampering bring charges against the nets in this day and age the way no room. We're going to talk about this later in the show but there are rules that nobody pays any attention to so. I have no idea how you could get a tampering charge to stick right even the way everybody body played free agency cry yes but I just find it wholly unbelievable that there was no contact of any kind and again this statement that he made that John Marks made you know we we found out in real time found out real test. You're just sitting your office waiting thinking okay when the clock hits midnight which is actually six eastern right that then we're going to call. We'll call his agent and say hey could we. Can we schedule a meeting or maybe maybe Tuesday maybe Wednesday could could we maybe just talk on the phone or WanNa go to dinner. Carry had worked out details. We'll maybe he had but the reason this is far fetched to me is that there were rumblings in this statement that he made completely clears them of any tampering charges but there are lots of small connections that are actually big connections because there's an assistant coach named Adam Harrington who sits on the bench with Kenny Atkinson Atkinson is also considered like a player development coach and he spent the fourteen fifteen season with Kevin Durant in Oklahoma City and they grew very close because at that point he was shot doctor and a life coach and I found a quote from him. I'm not sure this. I'm just going to quickly read the quote from Adam Harrington Fourteen fifteen I travel with Kevin anywhere from two to three weeks a month workouts during the season off court mentoring film breakdown and just doing life together. It's been great so they got really that close right so you've got that connection so you can certainly talk to Adam. What's up? What how does it work? What's Kinney like Rashawn Line Right? What's what's it feel like and to your point? Kyri was very very close to all of the above so just by Osmosis just just by being around in near them. They're going to know enough to know he Kevin. Durant is a shrewd operator when it comes to business decision. I think what he means skip. Is that the head coach the general manager owner nobody that normally gets meeting with a player I in the conversation now maybe he did talk to that guy and he was able to fill in the blanks but that's Kevin Durant so even if you knew nothing about it he's seven foot tall in the career twenty seven point two time five of M._v._p.. Take any okay now back to your original premise which could be true that he just didn't have any contact because number one he is out of Golden State and number two. He's just going to go with Kyrie are- because he loves Kyrie they are truly best friends and as I told you the day after this went down I said it sounds like Kyrie is the Alpha in this to some right. It sounds like Katie's like okay. The Nets where we go yeah okay I trust. I believe in you okay. Let's go do this but it also smacked. I told you of semi retirement on Kevin's part because he got us to championships. We got us to file right A._P.'s and then he knows he got out of your anyway. This is the worst thing happened. You know ruptured Achilles and so he's just saying hey whatever I did all that I just WANNA be around New York City because we're going to move our what's it called all thirty five ventures to headquarters in New York and I just want to be in Manhattan in the neighborhood obviously Brooklyn's near enough by that you can live in Manhattan if you want and play in Brooklyn or live in Brooklyn Brian Brooklyn and go to Manhattan whenever you need to but the point point is it felt like he just kinda threw up his hands and said whatever but this is Kevin Durant. What are we always say boy? He is his own man. Yeah and I think the thing is no one saw the golden state coming but at least Golden State got a meeting other teams got meetings the rent so at least they were ended like okay. We did get a meeting. We don't know how it's GonNa turn out but when a guy comes to you that guy comes to you it's not so you know. He doesn't get when you get home. He has demonstrated with eating. That's comfortable. Oh he wants signing there. I'm good Kenny Atkinson Li March. I don't eat meat the the owner of the team. I'm going to Brooke even know you're going to have to live with those people right. Yes they're going to be direct impacts on your life coming up in another year yes well you know how it is playing for franchise. What if you walk in the door and you when you go to Baltimore and you don't know anything you right right but <hes> but I met with I met <music>? A Brian I met with Ozzy flew back on the plane with art modell so I got very comfortable talking to those people skip this. This is this is big brother. This is like when they just put everybody in the room together. You have no idea and you gotta to make it work but you understand that you're going on. A game. Show in this is high works yeah but in real life in basketball. You don't want to know what kind of system you run. I guess you superstar you are the system because I can assure you kidding. Atkinson isn't they're not gonNA rent comes back in October of two thousand twenty. They're going to run what fits best for Keri K. D.. Whatever that is so what they were running before they won't be running that when Kevin durant steps is put on the court yeah and I'm still L. disappointed and Kevin that he didn't even give passing interest to the Knicks because that's the move to me? That's the legacy move. I'm going to go there and I'm GonNa fix that no championships seventy three. I'm going to go do that. I wish you'd have that same energy because the the legacy move for the Lakers I'm GonNa fix that they hadn't been to the playoffs since years purple and gold but you want to go to the clippers okay all right okay but with cabin he might have. I've had to go it alone. Because then the knicks made it clear they didn't want Kyrie's so maybe series the one doing all the leg work in the homework and he realizes the Knicks Donnie. They're not interested in me so Kevin. We're out on the Knicks Right Kevin just going to accept that. Why wouldn't Kevin meet with David Viz Tuesday? I'm a big Fan of David visit. Why when you at least sit with them maybe he did? Do you know what I think. The thing is for me is that I think once Kevin got injured. It changed thinking a lot because I'm not so sure. Had He not been injured. He might have been willing to go it alone because he understands. I'm Kevin Durant injured. I will wait for the game wrote for year. Am I still that same Katie okay. He doesn't know because he's never been down this road before. Okay so if you're Kevin durant wouldn't you at least when you want to sit with James Dolan the owner of the New York no the infamous owner why not why wouldn't you just go. It's it's your life and your legacy. Why wouldn't you just go sit and say explain explain to me? Why should be a nick just to hear what he had to say? You know what he should Katie. Okay explain to me why you had Charles could do that. Will that will be your first. I like Oak Oak old school so why did you. Why did you banning all right? I got it but he didn't didn't. I guess give the time of day or night anybody with the knit. No Steve Mills the head coach. I love it yeah so do I think unbelievable coat with the Lakers coach. Okay here nor there now I I just have a sneaking suspicion that Kevin Durant had conversations that Sean marks did not acknowledge or maybe he didn't know about or maybe go you know a keep this tampering dino five hundred thousand and then Adam silver might say we'll see you guys tampered. You're going to be able to sign him yeah. That'd be some David Stern type stuff you wouldn't do that. 'cause you know David starting like when our Minnesota Tamper with Joe Smith in not only can you not sign him. We're GONNA take three first round draft pick for the next three years and it ruined the timber wolves so maybe he had those conversations skipping Katie's like we need to keep this on the hush because we mess around and get a tampering charge and I'm not going to be able to sign with you guys then he had what used to be called plausible deniability exactly right not my recollection to the bathroom ability not aca recall that is a problem with Adam silver does Wanna fix. He's been talking lately about making some adjustments agency in that process. No mercy in July twenty don't miss the biggest pay per view fight of the summer. The senator the great many Paquin faces hard hitting keys one time Thurman to the World Welterweight Championship Fanny Back Elza Legend but Keith Thurman Incoming Foreign Jewish Manny Pacquiao is the end of his legacy beginning to become a legend. You have to beat a legend pack term in July Twentieth Order now live on pay per view also available on the Fox sports at I'm Paul George became the latest player to demand trade forcing his way to the Clippers Commissioner Adam Silver said yesterday that demanding trades is nothing new but at quote concerns all of us take a listen to more offer silver on this growing trend you have a contract and it needs to be meaningful on both sides on one hand. There's an expectation if you have a contract and it's guarantee that team is going to meet the terms of the contract me expectation. The other side is the player is going to meet the terms of the contract so I will say without getting into any specific circumstances. Trade demands are disheartening there disheartening to the team they're disheartening to the community and don't serve the player well the players care about their reputations just as much and so that's an issue that needs to be addressed address but a sticky debate chin. What do you think the N._B._A.? Should do about this nothing they can do because if a team can trade a player with three years left on his contract. Should the player be allowed to go to the team and ask poetry if a team wants to do what's best for the team and trade a player. A player should be able to go ask a team. I want to do what's best for me and trade me and that's what we skip now. There's only a handful of players. The have this kind of leverage this is not about Paul George. This is why because I don't think okay see was actively shopping Paul George but once it came to the realization skit look Paul George had a career year here. He finished third in the M._v._p.. Cody Ross headed triple double and we got bounced in the first round. We're not going anywhere now. Paul George comes to them. I want to go play. I want to go play in my hometown. Play the clippers okay in San President saying but what can I get. Katie can could've demand something like this Lebron but they're only a handful of players. The players get back in the eighties magic and bird in Jordan. They had this kind of control but they didn't use it in in this manner. They didn't demand trade. They use it. Maybe for coaches. I want a different coat. Okay team would act west. Give them a different coat. I don't really know what the League can do skip. <hes> I get what Adam silver it has still believes give the best committee going regardless the sport he's as good as he gets and plus this works this serve them really well because we're not really doing a whole lot of talking about football skill and football right around the corner as a matter of fact they might open camping about seven to ten days and we haven't even mentioned anything about training camp. I agree with that but N._B._A.. Ratings across the board last year. We're a little off and why they run James. That was a big Ron James. That's why he gets dot com with one read that one of the base. I don't even care about the risk of uh you mentioned Brian. That's the reason that's good enough for me. We can stop it there. There's nothing he can do because teams are trading players with two or three years and then I get it doesn't look good. You got a bunch of guys. It seems like you'll have like seven eighteen all the good players the mayor just fishing. I'll really know what else we can do skill so in these discussions and debates I've always been pro player. I will always fall inside of the player but it's gotten a little out of control. Obviously the players AH running the league and I don't have any problem with that once upon a time not too long ago what was about five years ago there was some rumbling about Lebron and see three mellow might just go start their only and I say good luck and God bless on that one because it it is hard to run a league. It is way harder than they want because they wanNA play basketball and they don't WanNa be the businessmen that you have to be jointly to run. The League and play in the League is too hard. You're not doing okay. You're talking by starting his own tour. Remember he started by doing that and he was talking about okay so I get what Adam is saying from a P._R.. Point of view the trade demand and you just lived through a whole season of it in New Orleans it is it's beyond disheartening thing it's disgusting after a while because everybody loses except in the end Anthony Davis one. He got what he wanted but it was a long hard year right. I don't think he loved going through it last year. Do you think he relished what what he had. The the villain enrolled did he had to play to get out but you know the layer always get labeled the villain but when the team train the player. I never all right so now we're back to trades. Nobody has a no trade anymore. I think there've been times Kobe seemed to have one for Lebron had it. I don't think he has done more okay because it's actually part of the current collective bargaining that you have to have been with the team for I think at least eight eight eight year no after been league for eight and four with one career before you can even qualify to negotiate with that team for a no trade so right now. Nobody has a no trade but I stepped back and you you always have a point you say well. The team can trade you. Why can't you ask for a trade right or demand to trade and make a stink well? You got me so this is radical but I'm gonNA throw it out there. What if there were no trades? What if you couldn't trade what if once you inc that deal oh well? I'm just saying never go for that. Okay I know they wouldn't because they'd be on the hook and actually because you now you would really push you to make a prudent decision. We want to give that guy four years and one hundred eighty million. In College Baseball you sign a guy you gotta keep them for at least three years. Okay they go to Bugle played college baseball. You gotta stay for three years. You give a guy for your contract. You gotta hold onto him for three years Kuma Rocker Vanderbilt University. We got him for Bert it. I mean it is I don't you need to go to court and get up out of there. I got you but he wants his education at the greatest school in America and I'm good with that education will you can go get the exact I got I'm with but my point is. It's a one way street right now and I wish it were a no way street right and I know that's completely radical. But what if you had to do that what if there was no the all you could do was dumped the you know you could just say I'll pay you off but I don't want you anymore and then I guess if you did that you would free him to go where you have to pay them off or pay his contract. You couldn't trade as well. That's what happened with the lever skill because these contracts guaranteed is like in football a guys get too much. You know they have these nice numbers. He signed a seven year one hundred hundred and twenty five million but when you get to the FRY imprint all he gives the money up for in the first year but this is guaranteed okay but I do have some sympathy for Sam Prestige who runs the team in my hometown of Oklahoma City because he built his next four four years on Paul George. I'm going to have him and I got Russ right and so one year passes and all of a sudden pulses guess what I got to go home and he wants me to go with him and I just gotTa go in San Prestige Sin. I don't want that stink of last year on me right skip. I believe Sam Preston was like happy because he saw what Paul George Dan he's all it was dead and