Audioburst Search

17 Burst results for "Katie Kingsbury"

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on WMAL 630AM

WMAL 630AM

12:02 min | 3 weeks ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on WMAL 630AM

"Show Iranian politicians chant death to America out of respect for George Boyd just like the American left not Emma WMAL this is the Ben Shapiro show so big story of the day New York times has now fired its opinion editor it's just an amazing amazing thing it's truly incredible de the complete collapse of American journalism in real time distortion to wash their hands the woke brigade so for for decades there is the assumption that the media we're there to provide quality reporting and also the op ed pages were there to provide a wide variety of opinions and you're the reason Overton window even one full and not use writing for your op ed page but if you were to say something to fifty eight percent of Americans agreed with and there's a long history of doing take road not bad about how if local authorities could not handle right including the fed should be called in which is exactly what senator Tom cotton wrote the Republican from Arkansas at the behest I mean you're transgender yeah that would be perfectly acceptable now it is not acceptable it has been deemed unacceptable why was no acceptable unacceptable because he woke staffers at The New York Times complained it was dangerous runs a shop at now you're gonna have to explain me why it is dangerous to suggest that if you can get riding including under control you call in the feds why is it dangerous to whom is that dangerous they said it was dangerous to black New York times staffers why we're black we are ten staffers riding and looting if they were less criminal activity they probably shouldn't be working for the gray lady yeah but they they literally fired their op ed editor for having run a piece from a sitting senator that fifty eight percent of Americans agree upon data here's the story from The New York Times it's an astonishing revelation because they've now basically endorsed the idea that they are slight our salon dot com I can open left wing publication they're no longer going to pretend reporting is going to be infused with the joy of leftist aggression and their op ed page is just going to become an open weapon I'm have let's go away I'm kind of grateful because we all knew this within your times was anyway but now the universities have been captured by the radicals this this is very reminiscent of the nineteen sixties when you have students on college campuses we have a bunch of communists and anarchists would basically take over a college dean's office instead of the team calling the cops and get these kids the hell out of here you take what can I do for you yes you will you can you can declare as adversity requirements okay I'll do whatever you want and professors would resign I didn't this is never come to America's newsroom so well done everybody according to The New York Times James Bennett resigned on Sunday from his job as the editorial page editor of The New York Times days after the newspaper's opinion section which he oversaw published a much criticised op ed by US center calling for a military response to civic unrest in American cities no no by the way New York times had to correct the speech in regional phraseology of this piece suggested that senator cotton called for a military response to protests in American cities explicitly did not call for a military response to protests he called for a military response to looting and rioting but they had to change the story age pretend that the that the actual OB I was calling for protesters to be shot so they could argue for why it was wrong from the op that right to the York times lying about in your times editorial process which in turn was lying about Sanders on cotton it's unbelievable AG Salzburger pencils by the publisher said last week we saw significant breakdown in our editing process he's not the first we've experienced in recent years in a brief interview souls were added both of us concluded that James would not be able to leave the team for the next leg of change that is required what is the next leg of change an excellent of change I could you not is the new York times telling people if they have an objection from an op ed if they're offended by now but they should let the op ed editor now so now the woke staffers it's actually edit the paper it's taking over the it is taking over the entire editorial page and they banned basically anyone they do not like in the name of freedom in the name of free speech genius and also a virtual meeting on Friday Bennett fifty four apologized for the op ed saying it should not have been published and it had not been edited carefully enough in others no public posted late Friday noted actually actors he's the one on any needlessly harsh phone needlessly harsh tone then you're literally been calling senator cotton a terrorist it is he wants to murder Americans civilians and needlessly harsh tone of the checks their op ed page every other day calling trump Hitler needlessly harsh tone the op ed I center some cotton of Arkansas I had sent in the troops as its headline it said one thing above all else will restore to our streets an overwhelming show of force to disperse detain ultimately deter lawbreakers the piece drew anger from readers and times journalists Mr Bennett's with fall from one of the most powerful positions in American journalism comes hundreds of thousands of people have marched in recent weeks in protest of racism in law enforcement and society the protests were set in motion when George Boyd a black man in Minneapolis died last week after being handcuffed and pinned to the ground by white police officers ni the firm has reached other newsrooms to on Saturday night stand which which now ski resigned as top editor of The Philadelphia Inquirer so why okay which now he by the way that is an amazing story this guy thought Alfie in choir you spent twenty one years there yes dramatically diversified the newsroom in terms of race is increased number of black and Hispanic people working in the newsrooms dramatically dramatically it was a minority representation to twenty seven percent of the editorial workforce that's a doubling in the last four years and what happens when he does go wrong spelling out the Enquirer editor he published a piece with the headline buildings matter to this is not just the black lives not matter it was just that when you bring the link is a bad thing he was forced out they fired him he stepped down as senior vice president and executive editor why because they're a big zoom session people were mad you were very mad rule according to The Philadelphia Inquirer the session turned intense and emotional some journalists could be seen in two years and there's no friends all their crying on June shut it down shut it all down people crying on zoom well my can present him every day during school doesn't mean they shut down the school critics black and white denounced the pace of change in the paper sharply criticising both coverage and racial and gender mix of the staff several journalists pointed out the newspaper could only muster one male black reporters who covered the protests and police response involving a city that is majority minority so you so you're going to decide who is the best water based on race sounds great hours after the range was in session about fifty journalists of color signed an open letter calling for faster change the paper the following day most of minorities after the day off from work in protest it literally didn't come in because they ran an article called buildings matter to they didn't come in you know what happened if we run it as well and I approved and then our staffers incoming executive offended it would all be on the front lines the next day all the unemployment I would fire all of them because you cannot run a business where your staff we're pulling the staff it's insane it's insane again this guy was a liberal the increase to the minority representation the paper to twenty seven percent which is pretty good because I'll be I'll be Frank with you if you look at and and you talk to people at it a lot of these newspapers they're seeking desperately minority reporters and journalists and they're not getting the surfeit of applications that they're seeking this guy was ousted because people were crying on human decided not to come into work which would be a fireable offense get back to the New York times during Mr Bennett's first year on the job two times national security reporter is publicly objected to an op ed by Louise mensch beside her own reporting on U. S. law enforcement reported minority moan purported monitoring of the trump presidential campaign times reporters who covered the same story were skeptical of her claim well some people didn't like some of the stories around over the course of many many years and it worked in healthy jobs in the times newsroom in nineteen ninety one until two thousand sixteen he was considered a possible successor to deem the cat who is running the newsroom for six years obviously he's very bad by the way this guy's a brother Michael Bennett was the U. S. senator from Colorado in a note to the opinion staff on Sunday the the person who's taking over him Katie Kingsbury declined it should kind of for the article she said that eight until a more technical solution is in place what is directly reference any piece of opinion journalism including headlines or social posts or photos you name it it gives you the slightest pause please call or text me immediately is using the the editorial page editor is changing tires down if an op ed gives you the slightest pause contact me and we'll talk about taking it down insane insane I mean not unpredictable and I'm really enjoying the Tom cotton's piece was not well fact technical Hannah Jones U. sixteen nineteen project Pulitzer Prize winning essay was riddled with errors and four separate Pulitzer Prize winners came out and said was garbage there's no call Hannah Jones explaining that fact check it we we can just run anything we can't just run anything everything else immediately fact check except my pieces are just full of crap there's a call Hannah Jones who is the new editor of the paper so who regulations according to Jones we do absolutely believe that his views in the air that is necessary that we know that someone with this power things this way but that's a different thing altogether than simply allowing someone to say things that are not true to make assertions that might be unconstitutional without a check many of us journalists said they should have just been a news article where his views were aired but in a way that was factual because we know we are struggling with Americans getting this information and our role as journalists is to give people correct information so they can make decisions yeah that that is her role as a journalist as you correct information information like violence is not burning down a building and also the second man was created to keep black people down and also seventeen seventy six was partnered preserve slavery all of which is crap and all which is written well amazing fact checking going on over the New York times I mean they're they're coming out of the closet now with regard to what exactly this newspaper is for so there's a piece bye bye Ben Smith over the new York times talking about the shift away from that news were simply editorial coverage and he cites the case of Wesley Lowery Wesley Lowery is a guy who basically was tweeting activism from Ferguson Missouri in the middle of the Ferguson protests so here's the piece remains that Wesley Lowery woke up in the first cemetery on August fourteenth two thousand fourteen this chic sort more police officers smashed into a vending machine is wondering how to get a shoe laces back in was built shoes after the police took them when tossing in a holding cell the night before around eight thirty that morning he dialed in CNN's morning show where host passed on some advice from Joe Scarborough and MSNBC what next time a police officer tells you got along because you got right outside well you probably move along what Larry responded I would invite Joe Scarborough's come down from this and get out of thirty rock we sitting sipping his Starbucks smugly and we had to make an account at the time having your gastronomy and rubber bullets shot of me having mothers daughters crying of a nineteen year old what crime is going to run and police twenty one year old sister and a cloud of tear gas the outburst from the twenty four year old Washington post reporter provoked I was in Washington but now you don't want to make his name in person as an aggressive in high profile start shipping the wrong new national perspective on racial injustice six years later a few in the news business got Mr Lowry's promise and we are complete a more brutal and dishonest and much of the media came of age pre partition reported now Larry is an activist as well yes how do you know he's an activist because he was asked about the Washington post about this yet nature reprimand because he was getting too political they said well you're frequently expressed views that are political in nature and impact on the ability of the post designer stories about which you've expressed those views for example he was constantly tweeting out all of his political viewpoints in his report and some posters like what you really shouldn't do that because you are a reporter and meanwhile you know he like a lot of other like a lot of other political reporters they were they were signaling right they were doing things like actually marching in hands up don't you protest which began was based on a false lot just an actual wideout Michael brown well now all of these journalists to become openly accidents and Alex young who is.

America George Boyd New York times editor Emma WMAL Ben Shapiro
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

04:40 min | Last month

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"The funding the police is becoming a campaign issue president trump is now using it as an attack line against the presumptive democratic nominee former vice president Joe Biden the editorial page editor of The New York Times has resigned after a newsroom protest against a column calling for the military to put down civil unrest across the country and here's David Folkenflik reports a column was seen as a step too far James Bennett joined the times four years ago and let its editorials in a progressive direction even as he moved to draw more conservative voices to its pages some of those moves Spahn controversy among readers and reporters though the editorial pages are run separately from news reporting on Wednesday the times posted the column calling for a military response by senator Tom cotton an Arkansas Republican hundreds of times journalists protest online that would further threaten journalists publisher A. G. Sulzberger initially defended posting the column later he apologised to staff Bennett resigned Sunday Salzburger said there'd been a significant breakdown in editing and that wasn't the first in recent years Katie Kingsbury a Pulitzer winner for commentary will serve as acting editorial page editor David Folkenflik NPR news New York City begins to re open its economy this morning after suffering catastrophic losses in the covert nineteen pandemic impairs Brian Mann reports one of the big challenges now is mass transit in normal times more than five million people pack on the New York subways every work day those governor Andrew Cuomo acknowledges social distancing is nearly impossible in the city's crowded trains and buses but he says everything possible is being done to make them safe the subway cars are disinfected the Long Island rail road's disinfected new York's economy has been devastated by the shut down this restart includes cautious first steps construction manufacturing curbside pickup for retail as well as some office workers masks are still required in all more than twenty thousand deaths in New York City have been linked to cover nineteen so far Brian Mann NPR news New York this is NPR this is morning edition on WNYC in New York at seven oh four good morning I'm Kerry Nolan and as you've been hearing New York City begins phase one of re opening its economy today W. N. Y. C.'s Steven Nelson is at Atlantic terminal for the first morning commute following the easing of restrictions he joins us now good morning Steven good morning Terry so what are you seeing there at the station is there much of a morning rush hour well I've been here since six AM and I would call it a trickle of people something like you know used to see around eleven or twelve PM on a week day before all of this with which is to say it is very quiet almost everyone I've seen here has been wearing masks or at least attempting to wear a mask some noses poking out and when you arrive you know it doesn't seem that different here but then you notice there's these tables next to the turnstiles with hand sanitizer and free masks there is the odd randomly placed hand sanitizer dispenser like on a column that you might find if you look very carefully but you know as we've been reporting the MTA has gone you know above and beyond with cleaning surfaces more or less since the outbreak started and even this morning they're still spraying and wiping down surfaces so it is very clean here if it's not empty Hey what are people saying about going back to work well most people I spoke with have been essential workers who've been doing this for a while but I did run into several electricians and plumbers and whose first day it was back to work and all of them were uniformly very happy to be going back to work they said it's been great spending time with the family but it's great to go back and earn a living again they also say they've never seen the subway so clean before I'll one man told me he sorry it's a covert to get the M. D. aid to clean up the system but he's glad at least that you hope they keep it up but there is obviously still some concern about when rush hour returns shown in the crowds come back W. N. Y. C.'s Steven Nelson thanks Stephen thank you mayor de Blasio has pledged to shift funds from the NYPD to youth initiatives and social services the mayor didn't detail how much he's willing to cut from the police department or what parts would be affected but he says he's committed to moving resources around after talking to leaders of the city council's black Latino and Asian caucus and his task force on racial equity and inclusion and I also affirm while doing that we will only do it in a way that we are certain continues to ensure the city will be safe the mayor's office of management and budget will negotiate details with the city council during the budget process this week police reform advocates are calling on the city to cut a billion.

trump vice president president Joe Biden
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on KCRW

KCRW

03:59 min | Last month

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on KCRW

"The funding the police is becoming a campaign issue president trump is now using it as an attack line against the presumptive democratic nominee former vice president Joe Biden the editorial page editor of The New York Times has resigned after a newsroom protest against a column calling for the military to put down civil unrest across the country impairs David Folkenflik reports a column was seen as a step too far James Bennett joined the times four years ago and let its editorials in a progressive direction even as he moved to draw more conservative voices to its pages some of those moves Spahn controversy among readers and reporters though the editorial pages are run separately from news reporting on Wednesday the times posted the column calling for a military response by senator Tom cotton an Arkansas Republican hundreds of times journalists protest online that would further threaten journalists publisher A. G. Sulzberger initially defended posting the column later he apologised to staff Bennett resigned Sunday Salzburger said there'd been a significant breakdown in editing and that wasn't the first in recent years Katie Kingsbury a Pulitzer winner for commentary will serve as acting editorial page editor David Folkenflik NPR news New York City begins to re open its economy this morning after suffering catastrophic losses in the covert nineteen pandemic impairs Brian Mann reports one of the big challenges now is mass transit in normal times more than five million people pack on the New York subways every work day governor Andrew Cuomo acknowledges social distancing is nearly impossible in the city's crowded trains and buses but he says everything possible is being done to make them safe the subway cars at this infected the Long Island rail road's disinfected new York's economy has been devastated by the shut down this restart includes cautious first steps construction manufacturing curbside pickup for retail as well as some office workers masks are still required in all more than twenty thousand deaths in New York City have been linked to cover nineteen so far Brian Mann NPR news New York this is NPR the UK's moved require travelers to the country to quarantine for fourteen days to curb the spread of the corona virus is being met with opposition from the airline industry easyjet CEO says it should be challenged in court the British government introduced to quarantine plan today despite the threat of legal action the census bureau says by this week almost all of its local offices for the twenty twenty census will have re opened after shutting down because of the pandemic NPR's Hansi lo long reports of the offices have been sending workers out to rural areas has been waiting for months to receive census forms this week the census bureau says it's a re opening more local census offices in California Maryland New Jersey New York Texas and Virginia some of those offices will restart the hiring of door knockers will be sent out beginning in August to visit homes have been asked about the census but haven't done so yet the only census office with out of the opening plan is in window rock Arizona capitol the Navajo nation which has been suffering from the highest per capita infection rate for the quarter virus in the U. S. bureau is playing to finish counting for the senses by October thirty first the results to determine how many congressional seats and electoral college votes each state gets for the next decade on the long NPR news New York a big storm that began battering the Gulf coast over the weekend is weakening as it moves and lan Cristobal is now a tropical depression made landfall in southeast Louisiana last night as a tropical storm bringing heavy rain and top winds clocked at fifty miles per hour at last check Cristobal was centered north of baton Rouge as it makes its way north on trial Snyder NPR news support for NPR comes from NPR stations other contributors include heather stirred Hager and Paul G. Hager supporting African wildlife foundation working to ensure wildlife and wildlands thrive in modern Africa learn more at.

president
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

03:28 min | Last month

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on KQED Radio

"The funding the police is becoming a campaign issue president trump is now using it as an attack line against the presumptive democratic nominee former vice president Joe Biden the editorial page editor of The New York Times has resigned after a newsroom protest against a column calling for the military to put down civil unrest across the country and here's David Folkenflik reports a column was seen as a step too far James Bennett joined the times four years ago and let its editorials in a progressive direction even as he moved to draw more conservative voices to its pages some of those moves one controversy among readers and reporters though the editorial pages are run separately from news reporting on Wednesday the times posted the column calling for a military response by senator Tom cotton an Arkansas Republican hundreds of times journalists protest online that would further threaten journalists publisher A. G. Sulzberger initially defended posting the column later he apologised to staff Bennett resigned Sunday Salzburger said there'd been a significant breakdown in editing and that it wasn't the first in recent years Katie Kingsbury a Pulitzer winner for commentary will serve as acting editorial page editor the full conflict NPR news New York City begins to re open its economy this morning after suffering catastrophic losses in the covert nineteen pandemic impairs Brian Mann reports one of the big challenges now is mass transit in normal times more than five million people pack on the New York subways every work day governor Andrew Cuomo acknowledges social distancing is nearly impossible in the city's crowded trains and buses but he says everything possible is being done to make them safe the subway cars a disinfected the Long Island Rail Road is disinfected new York's economy has been devastated by the shut down this restart includes cautious first steps construction manufacturing curbside pickup for retail as well as some office workers masks are still required in all more than twenty thousand deaths in New York City have been linked to cover nineteen so far Brian Mann NPR news New York this is NPR the UK's moved require travelers to the country to quarantine for fourteen days to curb the spread of the corona virus is being met with opposition from the airline industry easyjet CEO says it should be challenged in court the British government introduced the quarantine plan today despite the threat of legal action the census bureau says by this week almost all of its local offices for the twenty twenty senses will have re opened after shutting down because of the pandemic NPR's Hansi lo long reports of the offices have been sending workers out to rural areas have been waiting for months to receive census forms this week the census bureau says it's a re opening more local census offices in California Maryland New Jersey New York Texas and Virginia some of those offices will restart the hiring of door knockers will be sent out beginning in August to visit homes have been asked about the census but haven't done so yet the only census office with how to re opening plan is in window rock Arizona the capital the Navajo nation which has been suffering from the highest per capita infection rate for the quarter virus in the U. S. bureau is planning to finish counting for the senses by October thirty first the results determine how many congressional seats and electoral college votes each state gets for the next decade on the long NPR news New York a big store that began battering the Gulf coast over the weekend is weakening as it moves and lan Cristobal is now a tropical depression made landfall in southeast Louisiana.

president
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

02:42 min | Last month

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on 710 WOR

"On life support in April that's when the pandemic peaks department commissioner Dermot Shea tweeted the said announcement Sunday night The New York Times is accepting the resignation of its editorial page director following the publication of a controversial op ed James Bennett left after the paper printed the article last week from Arkansas senator Tom cotton the piece was called send in the troops and it made reference to one rest caused by protests following the death of George Floyd the new acting editorial page editor through the November election is Katie Kingsbury federal prosecutors make a formal play for testimony from prince Andrew as they investigate alleged conspiracies and accomplices of Jeffrey entsteht ABC's Aaron Katersky files this report by passing Buckingham Palace federal prosecutors in New York sought testimony from prince Andrew through a mutual legal assistance treaty with the U. K. prince Andrew was not their target rather we're told prosecutors want to talk to him as a witness to potential crimes committed by associates of Jeffrey Epstein he died by suicide while in federal prison on sex trafficking charges U. S. attorney Geoffrey Berman has made no secret of his desire to talk to the Duke of York about his interactions with Epstein and his former girlfriend got an actual well in the York in the Virgin Islands and in London Erin cuter ski ABC news New York a Massachusetts man is dead after being ejected from his car then hit by a tractor trailer following a crash on the New York State Thruway state police report that forty five year old Robert Herrington of Waltham Massachusetts struck the guardrail southbound near exit fifteen A. in Woodbury at about eleven PM Saturday the man was ejected onto the highway then was hit by the tractor trailer pronounced dead at the scene no word on what caused the accident former president Barack Obama is calling the events of twenty twenty so far from corona virus to the ongoing civil unrest over police brutality a wake up call to new graduates met mensen has more in a virtual address Sunday Obama said the two crises meant the status quo is not working that well for Americans the former president said the current generation doesn't have to accept what was considered normal before and it's an opportunity for the graduates Matt Matt incident NBC news radio yet another moderate earthquake has hit the city of ridgecrest California the U. S. Geological Survey says the magnitude four point three quake struck Sunday night shortly after nine PM Pacific time the area has been a hotbed for activity lately seeing a three point five Saturday night and a nine point five last Wednesday and also saw two major earthquakes last July the news is sponsored by unbound dot org right now other young people across the world facing a tough.

attorney mensen peaks department commissioner Arkansas senator prince Andrew Jeffrey entsteht ABC U. S. Barack Obama London ABC Massachusetts New York State Thruway corona Matt Matt NBC ridgecrest California U. S. Geological Survey
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

The Argument

06:55 min | 4 months ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

"I mean. What is it like? This is not going to go away. In a month. I'll do the analytical bit and then you can explain why we shouldn't be rooting for Curtis. Ross you can get. This is really bad for trump right. I think the stock market is is it extremely imperfect gauge of the economy but to the extent that it is engage in a meaningful one which it is. It's it's forward-looking right and so so this isn't telling us what the economy's doing today telling us what people who actually have money at stake think the economy is going to do over over the future and and I actually although I do sometimes think there's a level of panic that is unjustified. I do really think I agree with Ross. I think we're on the cusp of things. Feeling very different. The only other thing I would add before Ross explains why we shouldn't be rooting for the buyers is there are almost eight months until election day. Think about how much has changed in the last two weeks right two weeks ago the economy was great and the Democrats were about to nominate a socialist through good times but people are still locked down in Wuhan. Yeah yes this is now no. I think you're right. China China has China has controlled it by continuing to lock down a major province. So that's it's clear that the steps you need to contain it are steps that probably are not going to lead to a v-shaped recovery that helps trump in the fall. You know I mean again. This obviously goes back to questions. About how bad trump is to begin with and the closer you get to regarding trump as like a true fascist menace. The more people will sort of root for a catastrophe that might seem to derail him. I think to bring this back to my argument in the book available outside Deck I think trump is a manifestation of decadence. And this is bad. And it's not just bad because you eat too many fancy foods or you eat that ridiculous piled high burrito or whatever burrito pizza or whatever it was it's bad because it includes misgovernment corruption cruelty all the things that liberals and not only liberals rightly dislike about trump but there are worse things in decadents and in any era when it feels a little decadent. There's a temptation to root for the things that are ultimately worse and the politics of anti decadence. And I'm to be clear I'm antidepressant. The politics of anti-depressants has a long history of leading to you. Know more disastrous. Things people are worried about decadence in nineteenth century Europe. And you got World War. One people were worried about decadence in Weimar Germany. And you got he who shall not be named my conservative friends. After nine eleven happened said well. This is the wakeup call that America needs. And now we're going to leave our bill. Clinton era decadence behind spread democracy around the world. And that did not go well either. This isn't a case like that. We're not choosing the corona virus. But it still you know to to root for the catastrophe is to take a really big a really big risk and I you know I think that there are. It is in many cases rooting for a catastrophe to end. Decadence is something that you end up regretting later. Hi My name is Reed. I'm twenty four and I don't know if either of you have read it but I recently started reading the coddling of the American mind. How good ideas and bad into good good intentions and bad ideas or setting up a generation for failure and I guess my question is as a person who graduated from college in New York City almost two years ago how do we incentivize administrations and students to listen to dissenting opinions. I mean I'm a gay woman and I would consider myself fairly liberal but I definitely witnessed and experienced in classrooms. People advocating for safe spaces and things of that nature which just to me feels like completely antipathetic to progress and being able to sit across from somebody who doesn't agree with you on everything I think is super important. So how do we get administrations to you know not let students protests speakers that they don't agree with and things of that nature? What a good question. Great question we're doing. Let's do we'll just do one. Okay can you take that right? Well my speaking fees are very reasonable. I never I never get protested. I'm so I was at Middlebury recently and everybody was very friendly. Unserious answer the serious answer is I think there's a problem that isn't just. I think the problem Collagen's in my estimation is that the administration of colleges often doesn't have any kind of moral vision for what the school is supposed to be and so the reaction against that sort of social justice. Reaction is an understandable one that I think it's understandable that college kids want a kind of you know they want a moral education. And so there's it's it's not as simple as saying we just need administrators to be sort of you know to defend free speech. You need to have some sort of you. Need to have some way to have both commitment to freedom of expression but also some sense of a you know purpose driven education I think that would in certain ways satisfies some of the impulses that lead to protests politics and protests against speakers and obviously the answer is for all universities to become Catholic much more narrowly and quick. I was just saying to Fordham Catholic. Sorry sorry no no. Forgive me much for narrowly. I would say make your case. I bet you'll win most arguments when you do. Thank you and that's our show. Thank you so much to everyone for coming out to see US tonight. Tonight's show is produced by James T Green and edited by Sarah Knicks for transmitter media. We held from phoebe. Lack Ian Persad Philbrick Tyson Evans and Katie Kingsbury. Our executive producer. Is GRETA COMB? Our music is by Allison. Leyton Brown very special. Thanks goes to the folks at the time center. Abby Privilege Harmony and Sam Barnes. Welcome to the live show at the end of the world..

trump Ross China China Curtis Weimar Germany Wuhan executive producer New York City Leyton Brown America China Allison Clinton Unserious Reed Middlebury Ian Persad
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Choice

The Choice

16:12 min | 5 months ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Choice

"Kingsbury. Welcome to the argument. Thanks thanks for having me. So let's start with the obvious question which is walk us through why you decided to go with two candidates. So it's it's fascinating the reaction to this. It's news has been a really interesting window into how voters as well as the general public are feeling about this race. It's clear that that people are very frustrated. And you know what went into this knowing people are going to be really frustrated that we didn't choose one. I think people really need that sense. Sense of a path forward of clarity of many of the things that roster said in terms of unifying behind one candidate but increasingly after after having spent hours and hours in the boardroom interviewing each of these candidates it became clear to us that no matter what any of these candidates would be among the most progressive presidents that the United States has ever had. It's how they would actually get that done where the differences really became the most crystallized and that for us became a question of you've Elizabeth Warren. Who has the clearest diagnosis of what ails America's Today and who has such a sense of urgency in her message inch it really matches the moment versus Amy Klobuchar? Who has this bipartisan? Track record of doing a lot of legislation with her Republicans across the the island. Whose message is much more one of unity? And one of the things that I really wanted to do was to reflect the vote of our board and and this was the outcome. That really most reflected the board's vote. Let me ask you one thing about that in particular because some of the discussion Russian has has suggested that the Times was trying to send a single message by endorsing too. But that's not what I saw when I watched the episode of the weekly. That had your deliberations nations to me. This was a divided board and I really saw a what felt like a generational divide in which younger members of the board really wanted a proud out progressive particularly warn and older members of the board. I don't know within the cutoff around. Forty forty five It's not perfect but older members of the board. We're really uncomfortable with that Disagreed with it on the substance worried it was less electable and were much more comfortable with Buddha Jig or Biden oral world. Totally Aclu Machar. Do you think that's fair. I think that's probably an over simplification and I'm kind of curious where you think I fall on that divide Most just curious how old you think I am Well I'm definitely not GonNa Guess Your Age but I will say I thought you were clearly on the more moderate side of that. Divide based on your questions and maybe maybe that's wrong. Maybe that's just what we saw television but but to me you were sort of the leader of the of the moderate group. That's fascinating I am probably amongst the more moderate members of the board I am Generally this personally more conservative I was raised by Republicans And I come from the Midwest asked where in general Some of the messages have not necessarily been resonating That's way over simplification But yes I am. I'm I'm probably amongst the only members of the board who go to church regularly and one of the questions that I asked to. Almost every candidate was how they place themselves in terms of Being where spirituality comes into their leadership style. And how they they they talk about that because I do know that I was in Iowa in November and I remember one of the things I heard from. A lot of voters was a lot of disappointment in the lack of discussion of faith and spirituality among some of the Democratic candidates I also I guess because I'm you know raise. I was raised by two people from about ground state. I I really worried that. Some of the ways that much I feel this more with Warren than sanders but some of the ways that they are talking a to voters and around their ideas might be off putting you know I think but one of the things that came up over and over again in both our conversations with the candidates but also our deliberations this question of electability the reality is is is that two thousand sixteen has taught us that trying to figure out who is going to be the most electable candidate versus. Donald Trump in. November is probably probably a fool's errand so we started looking closer at the policy prescriptions. We started talking a little bit more about the actual messages of the candidates. And and what we realized is that the Party needs to have that conversation amongst itself it. It's really not the role of a to`real board to determine the future of the Democratic Party and that the only vehicle that we really have is people going out and voting to get a sense of what the Democratic voters want the future of the party to look like you know the Times. got a certain amount of twitter grief before this before the endorsement was was announced for sort of doing some. You know some reality TV show sort of fireworks around around the endorsement and so on but generally I thought that whatever was lost in losing a certain amount of behind closed doors. Honesty from politicians was more than gained back from the advantages of putting putting all of these men and women on the record in front of a group of smart questioners over over an extended period of time. I thought the whole thing went really okay well for the times and for readers and it just makes makes it more baffling to me that at the end of the day the message was well. There's a choice choice between a progressive path in a moderate path. And we'RE NOT GONNA make it for you. I mean it just it. It seems to me that that's the essence of what if there's any purpose to an editorial decision that's the purpose to tell readers and voters. This is what we think you should do. This is how the electability and policy we'll see bundle. Works together better with Clo- Char than Warren or better with Warren than closer. But I'm I'm sort of mystified. I think that those of US people external to the times and people internal like ourselves are just left with the impression that you know you guys is deadlocked and the divisions in the party were sort of manifest within the time itself and so the deadlock gave us you know a tie basically and and yeah I I have such a differentiator I take that point I I have such a different way of thinking about well. What the purpose of an endorsement is the man that I mean for me? The endorsement is really supposed to be an exercise in informing readers better about the candidates especially in the state and local level but also in terms of the presidential pick and I I guess I have never thought of it as something that we are supposed to go and tap and back a candidate and you know pull put put our full weight behind them. I I really wanted a to inform readers. Give them a better sense of how we measure these candidates after we spent able to spend a lot of time with them and this really felt to me the most journalistic and intellectually honest results As well as the endorsement that is going to be the most useful for a wider range of voters and I felt I feel really torn. I agree really Ross. With this perception that people think the board was torn because the board was torn. And if there's any regret that I have is leaving the impression that I couldn't make up my mind In some ways kind of transparency currency lessons endorsements potency. Because it no longer has this voice of God Feeling to it right. You sort of see how the sausage is made but but it does increase their utility. Because you can sort of see. All of these candidates being grilled by the same people right I think think Katie was right and talking about it as a journalistic exercise I also agree with Katie. That endorsements are more important for local races. You know I ended up paying a ton of attention to them when it comes to things like you know voting for judges in New York I'm going to be less swayed by the Times decision at the presidential level. But you know there's a lot of people trying to make up their minds and just as often I think when we write an op Ed. It's it's less distortive. Try to convince people than to lay out a way of thinking about something. I think. Endorsements can be very useful in just sort of helping to to clarify people's thinking about the different candidates. Ross I I feel like your criticisms raised some larger interesting questions which is should newspapers Brazilian. Be in the business of endorsing candidates Should they do it differently from the way they did in the past. Is that right well. I think there's an open question last year about the viability and purpose of an editorial page in the age of you know innumerable takes and personalized journalism and the decline of institutional national power and so on And I think what what my sense of what we've tried to do is to reduce the number of editorials that we right with the idea being that when and the Times weighs in on something it should mean more than just you know for editorials a day on sixteen different subjects and I think that's a reasonable approach approach and again. It's why I'm sort of baffled by this outcome. Because if that's the goal to reduce the number of reduce the number of editorials we we do to try and make each editorial more meaningful and more sort of a more important statement of where the time stands. Then you know this is an important moment. We did big build up people are going into the polls in Iowa very shortly and You know we didn't tell them who to vote for. And I I think we should have. Okay we're GONNA vote today's entire show to this conversation but let's take a quick break now and we'll be right back to talk about Joe Biden Bernie Sanders and more to kill a mockingbird is unmissable an unforgettable raves rolling Stone Five Stars The New York Times declared it a critic's pick calling errands Zorkin's new play beautiful elegiac satisfying even an exhilarating a mockingbird for our moment sixty minutes says it's the most successful American play in Broadway history. A New York magazine calls it a real phenomenon on ED. Harris is Atticus finch in Harper. Lee's to kill a mockingbird directed by Bartlett cheer tickets at telecharge Dot Com. Welcome back to our conversation with Katie Kingsbury. Deputy editorial page editor here at the Times. This is inside baseball but I am still curious to hear your thoughts about it. which is Did did you ever consider maybe doing two editorials in which say you would write. The full throated endorsement of Klobuchar. A more progressive member would write a full throated endorsement. I Warren. It's interesting that in the end people feel like that for oh it was written more in favor of Closer Than Elizabeth Warren Because I actually feel pretty strongly that they both would be excellent presidents. You know if I had to go into a ballot box today I had to choose between Colbert. Warren I probably I probably would vote for Elizabeth Warren for one she she absolutely is this. Brilliant architect of regulation she understands how to use the regulatory system in ways that are pretty astounding and whoever the next president is. If there's Mitch McConnell is still in the Senate then you are going to have to use regulation to get things done. Can I ask a question about the Joe Biden. I mean it seemed to me. One of the big takeaways was that when everybody voted he didn't even make the top four. Yeah and I'm curious. I mean I was. I think that reflects may own alarm. About what a Biden candidacy would look like but at the same time there was a moment after his interview where everybody said had only are really worried about the Joe Biden that would show up. He was much smarter than We were expecting so. Could you talk a little bit about the board's reservations about Joe Biden right after we had The outbreak of conflict with Iran. I sat down and I wrote an entire fire endorsement of Joe Biden and I think that came from an desire on my part for the comfort of having someone who during his interview spoke folks so fluently about foreign policy. Who's been in the room in some of those more difficult decision? Making who was A really vocal opponent to the war in Afghanistan and sending more troops there And I wrote that out wrote a full draft. I mean literally a two thousand word draft You know talking about why thought Joe Biden is the best Democrat to be president and it felt so oh It didn't match the moment in any way by which I mean as a board that has you know all of its values are under herded by institutions norms. In a lot of ways. I think one of the things that's come through in the last three years is how we call out of those institutions are and how they really need to be reconsidered in in how our economic and political systems should at least be examined as to whether or not they need to be overhauled. And that's it's not Joe Biden's message at all Joe Biden's message simply is let's go back to normal. Whatever normal is right like I mean there are a lot of for a lot of Americans normal wasn't working and I think that there needs to be some recognition that at least four some portion of the American public the government and the economic systems were failing them and I think that is why at least in part Donald trump was elected president and returning to what Biden is offering it just felt like tinkering around the edges when the house is on fire and we need to have a really close examination of what needs to change in this country and I didn't I didn't it doesn't come through when you talk to the former former vice president that he understands that urgency that he gets that people need something different Do you have any regrets about Describing Elizabeth Warren with the phrase gifted storyteller since I'll I'll speak for the Unrepresented Right wing of America in this conversation and note that one of the chief critiques of Elizabeth Warren from the right and not only from the right is that some of some crucial moments in her political career involved telling stories..

Elizabeth Warren Joe Biden the Times Joe Biden Bernie Sanders Biden United States Donald Trump Katie Kingsbury Amy Klobuchar Iowa America president Ross Midwest Kingsbury. New York Aclu Machar baseball Democratic Party New York magazine
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Choice

The Choice

08:09 min | 5 months ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Choice

"History says sixty minutes rolling. Stone gives mockingbird five stars calling it a landmark production of an American classic and. NPR says. It's one one of the greatest plays in history all rise. Ed Harris Is Atticus Finch in Harper. Lee's Tequila mockingbird a new play by Aaron sorkin directed by Bartlett Sher tickets at telecharge urge dot com from the New York Times editorial board I'm Katie Kingsbury and welcome to the choice. The podcast that brings you inside the deliberations process for endorsing and at twenty two thousand presidential candidate over the past few weeks. You've heard US interview eight Democratic candidates as they race towards the primary. You've also gotten a peek into the discussions that happened. Immediately after candidates left the boardroom. Long interviews intense debate all culminate in our final decision for the endorsement. After the last Kennedy left better Tori awards set down a group and went through each candidate and argued for or against and held them up side by side. I WANNA use this time to assess ask the pros and cons of each of the candidates And then to talk a little bit more about the criteria that we're going to use in terms of trying to choose who we will endorse but let's let's just dive in. I think you know the case for Biden boils down to a couple of things the first is making the case and I think with some credibility that he is the best position candidate to beat Donald Trump and that is obviously a central issue in this election. A second point about Biden as I think that his Experience in foreign policy really sets him apart from the rest of the field. Thomas Dyer he certainly has a lot of strong feelings and he has a lot of money. That's how he got in this room. I'm and that's how he got on the debate stage. And that's I you know that makes me pretty uncomfortable But he certainly was right about a lot of his diagnoses of of the fundamental problems. But has I think been your pointed out to him and he had no good Response to is that he really embodies a lot of the fundamental problems of of of income inequality and particularly as this country has gotten there and I think he's done pretty remarkable work in California and I asked him During the interview why not Run for the Senate or for governor at least try to get some experience in government before you run for the highest office in the Land Mayor Bloomberg who obviously decided not ought to participate in the endorsement process would not come to interview his argument being that he didn't have enough to say yet. That had only put out three or four physician papers. I I tried to make the case pretty persuasively that this was an editorial board that perhaps knew him the best out of any group of opinion journalists in the country and that we would have plenty to discuss thus with him With regards to his record in New York and he decided instead to To not participate not to answer the tough questions we wanted to put him. He In many ways I think is a great American in the sense that he has really reshaped a lot of just everyday life in ways. We don't even think about just like his public health initiatives around smoking in bars and restaurants. He's actually quite liberal on many issues including guns and I think his work on that is. It's really to be applauded turning to mayor. Peed bridget which he checks a couple of the same basic boxes as Biden or possibly closure. He is comfortable talking about faith in a way that few of the candidates are combined with his military background. This gives him a little more depth. He's got some big ideas. His plans for the Supreme Court are obviously something that would take a lot of effort. It would be a heavy lift. But he's not afraid of the big ideas senator enclosure. I was really really surprised by how much I liked her She does have ambitions like he keeps saying the public option is an ambition but she's also put out one hundred billion dollar plan to tackle addiction addiction mental illness. That's the depths of despair. Question that we keep talking about like we're the only high income country in the world that has a declining life expectancy and no one's really talked about that and she has so she simultaneously put out a plan for a public option and also said. Here's another way that we're GONNA come out the health issues that are facing the country and to me. That was really appealing. Governor Governor Deval. Patrick I think he's a deeply honorable and reasonable man in an age of politics that's full of unreason and a lot of dishonor and I think you know. Oh He's a great governor of Massachusetts and he definitely sort of has the best interests of the nation at heart but just hasn't sort of done the work to get up to speed in a campaign. Where if if the most important thing is beating Donald Trump he's polling zero and his campaign website is on the third page of search results Yang Yang Gang? Part of what he has going for him is that that he's very self aware and knows that like he's coming into this with not really any experience and he talked about how he would definitely definitely want someone with more experience as BP. I also appreciate that. He seems to understanding away. That like style didn't seem to and even the fuel the other cancer didn't seem to of what like the average American needs and wants right now and I agree with that you should. I really appreciated that. He set priorities and said this is why. Oh you can't tackle climate change I because I think that's something that we struggled to get any of the candidates to do whenever we ask them about that. The question you were asking them was like that's going to be their priority and then in the next breath they I would say. Oh no that's going to be their priority and I really appreciated that. He said like articulated in one sentence why you wouldn't go after climate change. I like nobody else can do that. Moving onto senator sanders so for Sanders. The answers were higher. Minimum wage stronger unions breaking up and regulating banks again. Fighting corporate concentration concentration creating a healthcare system like they had in countries around the world providing free public education and taking drastic action on climate change and finally. I think we talked about foreign policy. I think the world would probably be better off. He'd been running foreign policy for the last thirty years or so. Should we talk about senator warn warn. She's a fighter in particular for you know the people who need to fighting for the most moral compass I think is pointed in the right direction. She absolutely oozes incompetence she's very very smart. She's done things she was responsible for the PB which is a really big deal. Among among among other things she understand government she understands regulation. I think this is a really good moment to stop and pause for a second and just have a longer conversation tation around what we should be thinking about as we continue the conversation in terms of what we want you to my mind. We entered this process with five points that we had laid out to consider one of which is can this person win the Democratic nomination and beat Donald Trump who's platform and record or the most consistent stint with the boards values who can be the most effective president in today's polarized political climate whose temperament and character are best suited to the demands of the presidency residency and who will help us recover the most swiftly from the trauma of the trump era and I think those five points actually color a lot of the conversations that we've had Already already and so I just wanted to remind us so that we can make sure where we're taking those into consideration. Does that list seemed good. Is there anything we should be adding to it anything that we were missing there. I do look at the sort of the depth of the moment. I've said this in probably every one of those like what did you think meetings but it just if it feels like. There's there's something to harness and it feels like it's very easy for these discussions to get routed around this this notion of well. This is how people are and we just have to like. We have to kind of whittled away a president out of all of these different poll numbers until we have this person because the stakes are so high. What I'm hearing out there is that this may be the most important endorsement? The Times will make in the long time simply because so many people are confused. What's gone wrong? What's gone off the tracks? What are we? What's our democracy where we headed in? So they're looking very much not only for who we endorse. But how we we.

Donald Trump Biden senator editorial board president Governor Governor Deval senator sanders US The Times NPR Ed Harris Thomas Dyer Stone New York Times Aaron sorkin Bartlett Sher Katie Kingsbury New York
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Choice

The Choice

09:10 min | 5 months ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Choice

"I'm Katie Kingsbury in our last episode. You heard the board Lord interview former Vice President. Joe Biden's in this episode. You'll hear what we had to say. After Mr by the left the boardroom. If you haven't heard the interview go back and listen to that first joining me today to talk about Mr Biden's visit and reproductive. Healthcare Gender in the twenty twenty election is board member Lauren Kelly. I'm Lorraine Kelly I cover women in reproductive rates for the the editorial board. I listen to the reaction after the vitamin interview. I was looking for the candidate. That's been sort of trade in the media's like you know now author not with it or lost a considerable amount or sort of discombobulated or something but he didn't strike angry really comforted by the Joe Biden that showed up. There was pretty much on his game. I thought he was on. He didn't wander he didn't ramble wasn't like he's he's all their yeah works. It was the second half when he started talking about foreign policy particularly he. He's head and shoulders above the rest on foreign policy. Absolutely agree with them or not. I the he's he's you know. He's an incredibly impressive skill. compassionate You know talented retail tale politician and you can understand why he has had such staying power. I guess the question is just whether and this it goes to what we didn't really get to but is it enough for the moment. Is it enough politically. Is it enough to save the middle class. Does he understand he understands. I think that the political and moral crisis but does he does he really understand kind of the world that so many any of us are living in I think the the what we didn't we didn't get to kind of follow up on on the millennial issue do but I mean. Does he understand the anger. One thing I was would have liked to follow up. He said at the beginning you know he's taken more incoming incoming fire in this campaign than anybody. He hasn't seen the beginning of it. He's got a fifty year record and wait till he goes up against trump and three hundred million dollars of Republican up a research. I think both of the questions I asked him his answers. Were frankly nonsense on both of them. His hide answer makes no sense at all. I believe him I think he. He accused us of ageism. And say like you know. Yeah I mean it just I mean I absolutely Louis have profound concerns about seventy seven. No no I absolutely think it's right to be very concerned about someone who's pushing eighty two years old running the largest country in the world the most powerful country agent whatever. You know what I'm saying. I'm concern about Bernie Sanders. I'm concerned I'm not. But what's the big deal baby. Nobody is fair to raised. These seventy seven seventy eight year olds are the healthiest most most fit most cognitively seventy seven seventy eight year olds with ever lived on the planet planet. My father is about to turn eighty. He's an he's got all his faculties with him. I would never want my father to run the country. And he's he looked tie yes he looked better than and then like a old man but he he looked he looked tired. He looked like someone and this is nothing compared to running the free world. Like it's just. I'm really concerned concern that the Democrats are putting their chips in the basket of of nearly eight year olds can be Joe Biden. I'm not right right. That's that's that's your pitch. This is the Party of the future and your pitches. I'm not GonNa die like you know. I thought the more he talked to better. I mean his this handicap and the debates was the thirty minute bite here when he could tell his long story. Which I presume you can do better right? There was a little of that like when you bring up the Obama Administration whenever you get when you get in a corner not the president and the other parts of it where it's like. Well look what we did. He wanted to play. I had presidential power. I'm not the president in politicians the pilot. Thanks for joining us. Sure so before we get into the interview with. Can you lay out for us. The current status of reproductive productive rights in the United States. And help us understand what's at stake in this election. Yeah this is precarious moment for reproductive rates. it's probably the most precarious moment since Roe anyway was decided in nineteen seventy-three You know over the years rose been chipped away. I there's been a whole heap of antiabortion bills around around the country and then that's been happening. There's been this pipeline of conservative judges who are hostile to abortion who have been sort of fostered by antiabortion advocates so when trump won the election then when Anthony Kennedy announced his retirement of course he had been kind of swing justice on the Supreme Court. it sort of became clear that those conservatives were really going to finally trying to accomplish their goal which is of course ending legal abortion access in America how has reproductive rights. Come into play in the twenty twenty race so far yes oh so far. Trump has really tried to set the terms of this debate. AM He keeps using rhetoric talking about infanticide conflicting abortion with murdering babies He especially says this when the topic of later abortions comes up you know of course later abortions have been rarely They generally happen when something has gone. Terribly terribly and tragically wrong and a pregnancy But he has really tried to who back Democrats into a corner to having to answer for again. What he he calls infanticide? Incorrectly Biden has some baggage around reproductive rights. What were your concerns going into this interview rate so probably his biggest baggage relates to the Hyde amendment? How do we focus on high? I can explain high place you first of all. Everybody voted for high. Every single person running it but they all this idea. This is such a principle thing. Well it's principled. I mean most of the party has been in favor of overturning. I yeah I understand that. I understand the question directly. I thought that when there were reasonable alternatives and funding mechanisms that did not deny women the opportunity to take advantage of their constitutional right under Roe. V Wade is amended by casing that in fact it was. Okay you and the vice president kind of get into it over the head amendment. Can you explain what that is in a nutshell. The Hyde Amendment is a federal statute that dates back to nineteen seventy six. And it says that Federal Medicaid dollars cannot be used to pay for abortions except in a few narrow circumstances and of of course who relies on Medicaid poor women so that explains why in America today it is so much harder for a woman without resources or without insurance coverage through work to get an abortion whereas a woman who has more resources. It's much easier for her to get the exact same procedure again. It's been around since one thousand nine hundred seventy six. Basically almost immediately after Roe v Wade was decided. And you know of course that made abortion legal across the country then the Hyde amendment came along long just a few years later and made abortion inaccessible to millions of those women so really stifles the effect of Roe v Wade Henry Hyde. Reid was a Republican Congressman from Illinois And he really made clear what this was about on Hausler during debate at the time he said quote quote. I would certainly like to prevent if I could legally anybody from having an abortion a rich woman a middle class woman or a poor woman unfortunately fortunately he said the only vehicle available is the Medicaid bill so basically poor woman it was And that's what we have today. An actually almost every congress person ends up voting in favor of the Hyde amendment because it is part of a budget bill but vice president biden has been then vocal in his support of the Hyde amendment in the past correct. That's right so it's really hard to get rid of the Hyde amendment because it is in that federal spending bill will And you know it's really unappealing situation to be faced with either going to bat to fight the Hyde Amendment or You know if you do that you're going to face a government shutdown So there's always so much to sort of bicker about in the federal spending bill and sort of every year that this comes up. It's it's a problem for Democrats and they just have not been able to figure out how to strip hide from the spending bill but your rate.

Joe Biden Roe Wade Henry Hyde vice president Vice President president trump Lauren Kelly Lorraine Kelly America Katie Kingsbury Bernie Sanders editorial board United States congress Louis Obama Administration Anthony Kennedy Hausler
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Choice

The Choice

03:13 min | 5 months ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Choice

"Welcome back to the choice from the New York Times opinion section. I'm Katie Kingsbury and I oversee the editorial board last last episode. You heard the board question in South Bend Mayor Pete footage on his time as a management consultant in this episode. You'll hear what we had to say after the mayor's his it if you haven't haven't heard the interview go back and listen to that first joining me today to talk about the mayor's visit proposed changes to the Supreme Court is our justice and legal affairs writer. Jesse Wakeman. I'm I'm Jessie Wiegmann. And I write about the Supreme Court and voting rights and legal issues and democracy reform generally before we turn to the bench. Let's listen to what the board had to say about Mayor Pete's visit. He struck me as the I mean he is a McKinsey Guy. Like that's the sort of briefing you looked at the spreadsheet but it's also the same kind kind of briefing that you would get from a junior intelligence officers looking at the war in Afghanistan and giving you all the metrics to convince you that the winning is possible. And that's what kind of scared me a little bit about. That is because because I've seen intelligence guys like that give briefing and say you know Helmand province is under control because of Xyz Xyz. I've seen the spreadsheets. What's fascinating to me about as Mackenzie experiences? This is like. They gave him a three year tour of all the things that are going wrong like they took him to the monopoly. They took him to the cost cutting health insurer. They took him to have Ghanistan make forty years. So you've got US tour of neoliberalism. He really didn't he comes out of it and he sort of says like I think neoliberalism needs to change and I believe that he understands the problem. But I'm I'm not sure he gets it and a politician. Success is a politician. Requires you to requires you to convince voters that you feel their problems and I do not get the sense. Maybe it's because I'm not from the Midwest but he did not give me the sense that he feels these problems. This board holds pretty much the same positions he does. I mean almost truth a platform. So it's kind of funny that there's this idea that he is in bold enough because it's important we aren't the fight languages about the Mayo. Peak eat thing and the the social media is about like a real generational anger in response to very large forces to financial shaw crisis to student debt to climate. Change to all these things that are very very real and though they may represent themselves on the Internet get in an annoying way to somebody like that. I just think this idea that like. It's not quite as civility message. But I think he has like this this world view of good faith from institutions that Americans see as almost primarily responding in bad faith all the time and then I think ties into question at the beginning about old normal in normal and here he is trying to distinguish himself from the old normal. But what he's talking about really is a return to something that just doesn't exist anymore. Yeah I mean even his tone when he said that the difference really is tone. I think that's not what people want right now. And not even just young people like people who are have been disenfranchised for the longest time and I think to me. That's kind of like walking into this. My Pain of him was like me. And it's kind of like I don't feel excited. Aided by.

Mayor Pete editorial board Pete footage Supreme Court Katie Kingsbury Jessie Wiegmann Ghanistan New York Times South Bend Jesse Wakeman Afghanistan Midwest Helmand consultant Mayo writer Mackenzie
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Choice

The Choice

10:57 min | 5 months ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Choice

"History says sixty minutes rolling. Stone gives mockingbird five stars calling it a landmark production of an American classic and. NPR says it's one of the greatest plays in history all rise. Ed Harris Is Atticus Finch in Harper. Lee's Tequila mockingbird a new play by Aaron sorkin directed by Bartlett Sher tickets at telecharge dot com while I may not be as a motive sometimes about my sense of anger or frustration or injustice and I would argue that some people are given more room to be a motive than others. I would not be doing any of this if I were not propelled by level of passion. I'm Katie Kingsbury. From The New York Times editorial board and welcome to the choice. A new podcast asked brings you behind.

Aaron sorkin Bartlett Sher Katie Kingsbury Atticus Finch Ed Harris The New York Times editorial board NPR Stone Lee
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

The Argument

05:45 min | 5 months ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

"Going to keep having that conversation Katie Kingsbury. Thank you so much for joining us. It Oh Now it's time for our weekly recommendation. When we make a suggestion that is meant to take your mind off of the news of the day? This week is my turn and Ross. I'm going to borrow the technique used a couple of weeks ago in which I'm going to start off with the story so I am as you both know a fan. Dan Of Boston sports teams. I lived in Boston from when I was two eight. The formative years for sports fans. I'm a Red Sox Fan. I'm a Patriots Fan. My wife grew up in Houston Houston in a family of baseball fans. In fact she grew up with season tickets to the Houston Astros and is a lifelong astros fan and as some listeners may know there is a sort of thread that runs through the three teams. That I have just mentioned the Houston Astros the Boston Red Sox and the New England patriots. which is they have? All credibly been accused recently of cheating the Astros and red SOx of using video to steal the opposing team's signs. So they know what pitch is coming in and for the Patriots. It's a long list of cheating accusations that they deflate. Footballs in videotape. Other teams and do all sorts of things and as I have been coping with these revelations in recent weeks and deciding what I think about them. I've basically come up with a kind of an excuse in defense for all of them. which is yes the Astros were cheating but so do all teams in the Astros? Were just better at it and the excuse for the Patriots is going to be cheating. No I'll get right there. I can tell you about like the crazy. Science of how the Patriots didn't really deflate the balls and it was due to weather and as I thought through all these things it actually gave me a kind of deep appreciation for our yawning partisan divide and how we basically Siklie end up believing what we want to believe and Nate Cohn. The Times's polling expert has said aversion as he says he he has a better insight into how people feel about politics when he thinks about how he feels about the Seattle seahawks his favorite football team than anything else and so I guess my recommendation is it either. Think about how your own sports loyalties or loyalties and other parts of your life can warp your views of reality and then try to apply that to politics and Ross. I'm baiting you a little bit here. But nothing has given me a better appreciation for how conservatives can think the crazy crazy things they do about climate change then my own views of the Houston Astros and the New England patriots. Well I mean I think one I think cure right and to. There's a guy named a ton. Her shoe has a new book called Politics for power and one of his arguments is that that especially for upper middle class educated people in the age of the Internet. It's become a lot easier to approach politics the way you follow all of sports like you know this sort of constant online stream of information. And he's arguing that this takes people away from the real work of politics. which is you know showing up at town meetings or at your local board meetings and organizing and doing things doing things in the real world? Maybe the age of Cable News on the Internet has made it easier to approach politics in this sort of fan spirit or hobbyists spirit instead of sort of citizens spirit. Maybe so I would flip this around Because I'm completely insensible to the appeal of sports and so I would say maybe thinking about how I think think about politics could help me understand what people feel about sports and really they feel anything about them And but the other thing I would say is that you know. I wrote a column once kind of trying to imagine how I would react to a Fictional left-wing version of trump. I felt like was steamrolling. All of my enemies And you know the temptation that would be there to sort of swallow your unease and how difficult it might be to break with all of your ideological allies At the same time I do think that the fundamental difference between Liberals and Conservatives is that David you are kind of having this Self critical at a coal conversation with yourself about sort of how you rationalize things away. That shouldn't be rationalized away. And you know the very fact that you sort of recognize your own partisanship as something to try to intellectually transcend and Is I think something that is much more common on one side of the political divide than the other. I think we've gotten away from the escaped from politics takes aspect of the recommendations. You're totally wrong. Michelle and not side any evidence to David Wednesday recommendation. My recommendation Asian is stop being so hard on the New England Patriots and Houston Astros. That's our show this week. Thank you so much for listening if you have thoughts or ideas. Leave us a voicemail voicemail at three four seven nine one five four three two four you can also emails at argument at NY TIMES DOT Com. And if you he likes you hear please leave us a rating or review apple podcasts. If you WANNA listen to the longer interviews that the board did each candidate subscribe to the choice..

Houston Astros New England patriots Boston Red Sox Houston Houston Katie Kingsbury Boston Ross NY baseball Dan apple Nate Cohn Michelle Seattle David Cable News New England patriots.
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

The Argument

15:22 min | 5 months ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

"Times editorial board usually endorses an establishment candidate for the Democratic nomination. It's endorsed bill. Clinton and Al Gore and John Kerry in two thousand eight the board chose Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama and in two thousand and sixteen chose Hillary again this time over Bernie Sanders This year the board has made the process more public than ever. The candid interviews were conducted on the record and published. Some of the deliberations were televised lost in the end. The board chose to different candidates a progressive Elizabeth Warren and a moderate Amy Klobuchar. That decision definitely got people talking. We're lucky that Katy Kingsbury who oversaw the process will be joining us today to talk about all of that. Katy is the Times as deputy epide- editorial page editor before she comes in. I should make clear that. Ross Michelle and I are not on the editorial board none of the OP. Ed Columnists are and we all. I feel fortunate to work at a place that celebrates debate and yes argument even among colleagues so before Katie joins US Russ and Michelle. What was your initial reaction into the joint endorsement Michelle? Well I was relieved that it wasn't Joe Biden and you know a lot of people really hated this. Online people were really angry online and and I think there was some initial misinterpretation that they were sort of saying. We'll just vote for a woman either Elizabeth Warren or Amy Klobuchar will do you know in some ways. The endorsement is kind of my own sinking which is vote for Elizabeth Warren. If you think Elizabeth Warren is to left for you vote for Amy Klobuchar Over Joe Biden so there was things in the endorsement that I thought were unfair. I thought some of the digs against Warren and also really against Bernie Sanders. Were a little unfair. But in terms of just advice to voters it was it aligned with what I think. Ross what you think I I mean I kind of hated it Since we're since we're being honest muster hopefully. I'll still have employment at the time after this conversation. My first thought was I. Guess Yeah I guess. To pick up from Michelle's she was relieved. They didn't pick Biden. Ice Looked at it and said okay. This means Biden is going to win And and it reminded me in a way of part of part of how the Republican primary process played out in two thousand sixteen. was that most of the elite factions within the Republican Party hated Donald Trump or disliked donald trump or at the very least were uncomfortable with Donald trump but they could never unite it and figure out which single candidate should you know be rallying point to actually beat Donald Trump and Joe Biden isn't Donald Trump but he's similar to trump in the only people who seem to like him are voters and don't you think Bernie Sanders don't you think you could say the same Bernie Sanders I mean. I think I I can do a riff on how this helps sanders too. I think that there's a world where a sort of anti Biden vote coalesce around Elizabeth Warren. There's there's a world where it somewhat more improbably coalesce around Amy Klobuchar but having the time aditorial board sort of a literal manifestation. The station of elite liberalism on offense intended guys Unable to actually recommend coalescing around a single figure just seemed like a sort of Nice distillation of how Biden's path to the nomination is going to work What did you think David? I'm not positive about this but I'm getting more secure or in the notion that I think Warren would make the best present but I'm not yet persuaded. She would make the best nominee because I really do think there's a chance she's less electable than some of the other candidates and I think has the best electability case and so I completely understand the desire to lift them. Both up But I also agree. It felt anti-climactic tactic to not help voters choose between these two and and let's be clear. Many voters aren't in a lane. They are trying to decide between club. CHARN Warren or between Bernie and Biden and so in any event. I'm really looking forward to having Kadian. So we can get her involved in this conversation So Katie Kingsbury..

Joe Biden Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders Amy Klobuchar Ross Michelle Donald Trump editorial board the Times Katy Kingsbury Katie Kingsbury Hillary Clinton Barack Obama Republican Party John Kerry Al Gore Kadian Ice editor David Russ
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

The Argument

05:00 min | 6 months ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

"While we choose whom to endorse in the Democratic primary. If you like the argument we have a feeling. You're gonNA love the choice. Here's our first episode explaining a little bit more about the show. Thanks for giving the choice to try. I'm Andrew Young and I'm running for President United I'm going to run through a lot. He was a wonderful by sort of without the baggage so to speak world smart absolutely charity. I'm Katie Kingsbury. I I oversee the editorial board of the New York Times for more than a century. One of the highest privileges of the board has been endorsing a presidential candidate. Historically the board has is published their decision after intense off the record interviews with candidates behind closed doors but this year for the first time in our history where breaking our own rules. I'm bringing you with us. The New York Times opinion section. Welcome to the choiced Unlike a board of Directors or trustees the Times editorial board made up of Fourteen Opinion Journal where experts in their respective subject matters. I'm Brent staples can I write about politics. Culture Race Education economics a a whole range of health science research. Maimon and I write about foreign affairs. Alex Kingsbury I cover issues about technology politics foreign policy in the military. The Shelf Katelyn. I covered national politics. Appelbaum and I write about economics and business for the editorial board. I'm Jesse Wegmann right about the Supreme Court and legal issues. My name is Mara Gaye and I cover your box and I write in a variety of editorial. I'm Lauren Kelly I cover women and reproductive rates Joan Broder and I edit just about everything Harris. Chris and I'm an editor and writer covering culture and society. Jim Del.. I'm the deputy editorial page editor and I run. The op-ed section. I'm Charlie were L. and I write about the way. Technology is changing the world. We're in the opinion section at the Times which means completely separate from its newsgathering operation. The newsroom's mission is to present the world as it is an hours to present the world as it should be well. Our missions are separate. We operate within the same standards needed for accuracy. Clarity and fairness we've been publishing our choice. The highest office since eighteen eighteen sixty in those divided times. We urged voters to embrace a tall Republican named Abraham Lincoln. The board comes to decisions by doing doing something very few in America. Get a chance to we sit down with each candidate by themselves for over an hour and ask them any question. We want it safe to say that before for these interviews started. We as a board had no clue whom we did endorse no clear. Choice had emerged primary debates. And we're eager to figure out the best candidate for the Democrats we wanted to. I know who would be the most effective president with the temperament and character best duty for the job but we also know the biggest question on the minds of many Democratic voters is who can beat Donald Trump. They have a lot to think about. The twenty twenty election is beginning in the shadow of voter suppression election hacking presidential impeachment not to mention frightening in climate change in escalating foreign conflicts. So if voters deserve total transparency as. They make their decision as to who should run against Donald Trump. So Oh every day for the next. Two weeks will release an intimate interview with a different Democratic candidate. Away from the project Veritas. And she says staff. You are not allowed no sorry. Ah You'll hear US ask the critical questions about their pitch. To the American people. Helping Women Democratic nomination let alone the presidency without the support of black voters and their strength as a candidate. And I'm the only one that has support across the spectrum of every single element of Democratic Party and get the answers. They never have time to give on the debate stage and nobody. Nobody does well at this question. Nobody ever wants to answer. This problem will also be releasing a supplementary episode every day the takes you inside the board celebration. Gratien and reactions after the candidates visits. I don't want to go as far as today. But he just evaded your question. He might have lied When he said there was an after. Every when it comes to see us. We'll sit down as board for final debate discuss whom the time should give. Endorsement values are in the right place. Just don't see how he makes the case for being a national league at the end of our series so here our final decision. Listen to our arguments for and against but ultimately make the choice for yourself torness on Monday. The first endorsement interview Senator Bernie Sanders do like it may not change. When I got to the white I see that as an advantage people know why what voice stand for. And if you WANNA watch how we did all this check out the January nineteenth episode of the weekly on Fx or Hulu after that and this is the choice. Subscribe now on Apple podcasts..

editorial board president Andrew Young New York Times Katie Kingsbury Donald Trump Brent staples Senator Bernie Sanders Mara Gaye Democratic Party Maimon Alex Kingsbury Lauren Kelly Culture Race Education Fourteen Opinion Journal Jesse Wegmann editor Appelbaum Jim Del
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

The Argument

05:00 min | 6 months ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

"While we choose whom to endorse in the Democratic primary. If you like the argument we have a feeling. You're gonNA love the choice. Here's our first episode explaining a little bit more about the show. Thanks for giving the choice to try. I'm Andrew Young and I'm running for President United I'm going to run through a lot. He was a wonderful by sort of without the baggage so to speak world smart absolutely charity. I'm Katie Kingsbury. I I oversee the editorial board of the New York Times for more than a century. One of the highest privileges of the board has been endorsing a presidential candidate. Historically the board has is published their decision after intense off the record interviews with candidates behind closed doors but this year for the first time in our history where breaking our own rules. I'm bringing you with us. The New York Times opinion section. Welcome to the choiced Unlike a board of Directors or trustees the Times editorial board made up of Fourteen Opinion Journal where experts in their respective subject matters. I'm Brent staples can I write about politics. Culture Race Education economics a a whole range of health science research. Maimon and I write about foreign affairs. Alex Kingsbury I cover issues about technology politics foreign policy in the military. The Shelf Katelyn. I covered national politics. Appelbaum and I write about economics and business for the editorial board. I'm Jesse Wegmann right about the Supreme Court and legal issues. My name is Mara Gaye and I cover your box and I write in a variety of editorial. I'm Lauren Kelly I cover women and reproductive rates Joan Broder and I edit just about everything Harris. Chris and I'm an editor and writer covering culture and society. Jim Del.. I'm the deputy editorial page editor and I run. The op-ed section. I'm Charlie were L. and I write about the way. Technology is changing the world. We're in the opinion section at the Times which means completely separate from its newsgathering operation. The newsroom's mission is to present the world as it is an hours to present the world as it should be well. Our missions are separate. We operate within the same standards needed for accuracy. Clarity and fairness we've been publishing our choice. The highest office since eighteen eighteen sixty in those divided times. We urged voters to embrace a tall Republican named Abraham Lincoln. The board comes to decisions by doing doing something very few in America. Get a chance to we sit down with each candidate by themselves for over an hour and ask them any question. We want it safe to say that before for these interviews started. We as a board had no clue whom we did endorse no clear. Choice had emerged primary debates. And we're eager to figure out the best candidate for the Democrats we wanted to. I know who would be the most effective president with the temperament and character best duty for the job but we also know the biggest question on the minds of many Democratic voters is who can beat Donald Trump. They have a lot to think about. The twenty twenty election is beginning in the shadow of voter suppression election hacking presidential impeachment not to mention frightening in climate change in escalating foreign conflicts. So if voters deserve total transparency as. They make their decision as to who should run against Donald Trump. So Oh every day for the next. Two weeks will release an intimate interview with a different Democratic candidate. Away from the project Veritas. And she says staff. You are not allowed no sorry. Ah You'll hear US ask the critical questions about their pitch. To the American people. Helping Women Democratic nomination let alone the presidency without the support of black voters and their strength as a candidate. And I'm the only one that has support across the spectrum of every single element of Democratic Party and get the answers. They never have time to give on the debate stage and nobody. Nobody does well at this question. Nobody ever wants to answer. This problem will also be releasing a supplementary episode every day the takes you inside the board celebration. Gratien and reactions after the candidates visits. I don't want to go as far as today. But he just evaded your question. He might have lied When he said there was an after. Every when it comes to see us. We'll sit down as board for final debate discuss whom the time should give. Endorsement values are in the right place. Just don't see how he makes the case for being a national league at the end of our series so here our final decision. Listen to our arguments for and against but ultimately make the choice for yourself torness on Monday. The first endorsement interview Senator Bernie Sanders do like it may not change. When I got to the white I see that as an advantage people know why what voice stand for. And if you WANNA watch how we did all this check out the January nineteenth episode of the weekly on Fx or Hulu after that and this is the choice. Subscribe now on Apple podcasts..

editorial board president Andrew Young New York Times Katie Kingsbury Donald Trump Brent staples Senator Bernie Sanders Mara Gaye Democratic Party Maimon Alex Kingsbury Lauren Kelly Culture Race Education Fourteen Opinion Journal Jesse Wegmann editor Appelbaum Jim Del
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

The Argument

05:00 min | 6 months ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on The Argument

"While we choose whom to endorse in the Democratic primary. If you like the argument we have a feeling. You're gonNA love the choice. Here's our first episode explaining a little bit more about the show. Thanks for giving the choice to try. I'm Andrew Young and I'm running for President United I'm going to run through a lot. He was a wonderful by sort of without the baggage so to speak world smart absolutely charity. I'm Katie Kingsbury. I I oversee the editorial board of the New York Times for more than a century. One of the highest privileges of the board has been endorsing a presidential candidate. Historically the board has is published their decision after intense off the record interviews with candidates behind closed doors but this year for the first time in our history where breaking our own rules. I'm bringing you with us. The New York Times opinion section. Welcome to the choiced Unlike a board of Directors or trustees the Times editorial board made up of Fourteen Opinion Journal where experts in their respective subject matters. I'm Brent staples can I write about politics. Culture Race Education economics a a whole range of health science research. Maimon and I write about foreign affairs. Alex Kingsbury I cover issues about technology politics foreign policy in the military. The Shelf Katelyn. I covered national politics. Appelbaum and I write about economics and business for the editorial board. I'm Jesse Wegmann right about the Supreme Court and legal issues. My name is Mara Gaye and I cover your box and I write in a variety of editorial. I'm Lauren Kelly I cover women and reproductive rates Joan Broder and I edit just about everything Harris. Chris and I'm an editor and writer covering culture and society. Jim Del.. I'm the deputy editorial page editor and I run. The op-ed section. I'm Charlie were L. and I write about the way. Technology is changing the world. We're in the opinion section at the Times which means completely separate from its newsgathering operation. The newsroom's mission is to present the world as it is an hours to present the world as it should be well. Our missions are separate. We operate within the same standards needed for accuracy. Clarity and fairness we've been publishing our choice. The highest office since eighteen eighteen sixty in those divided times. We urged voters to embrace a tall Republican named Abraham Lincoln. The board comes to decisions by doing doing something very few in America. Get a chance to we sit down with each candidate by themselves for over an hour and ask them any question. We want it safe to say that before for these interviews started. We as a board had no clue whom we did endorse no clear. Choice had emerged primary debates. And we're eager to figure out the best candidate for the Democrats we wanted to. I know who would be the most effective president with the temperament and character best duty for the job but we also know the biggest question on the minds of many Democratic voters is who can beat Donald Trump. They have a lot to think about. The twenty twenty election is beginning in the shadow of voter suppression election hacking presidential impeachment not to mention frightening in climate change in escalating foreign conflicts. So if voters deserve total transparency as. They make their decision as to who should run against Donald Trump. So Oh every day for the next. Two weeks will release an intimate interview with a different Democratic candidate. Away from the project Veritas. And she says staff. You are not allowed no sorry. Ah You'll hear US ask the critical questions about their pitch. To the American people. Helping Women Democratic nomination let alone the presidency without the support of black voters and their strength as a candidate. And I'm the only one that has support across the spectrum of every single element of Democratic Party and get the answers. They never have time to give on the debate stage and nobody. Nobody does well at this question. Nobody ever wants to answer. This problem will also be releasing a supplementary episode every day the takes you inside the board celebration. Gratien and reactions after the candidates visits. I don't want to go as far as today. But he just evaded your question. He might have lied When he said there was an after. Every when it comes to see us. We'll sit down as board for final debate discuss whom the time should give. Endorsement values are in the right place. Just don't see how he makes the case for being a national league at the end of our series so here our final decision. Listen to our arguments for and against but ultimately make the choice for yourself torness on Monday. The first endorsement interview Senator Bernie Sanders do like it may not change. When I got to the white I see that as an advantage people know why what voice stand for. And if you WANNA watch how we did all this check out the January nineteenth episode of the weekly on Fx or Hulu after that and this is the choice. Subscribe now on Apple podcasts..

editorial board president Andrew Young New York Times Katie Kingsbury Donald Trump Brent staples Senator Bernie Sanders Mara Gaye Democratic Party Maimon Alex Kingsbury Lauren Kelly Culture Race Education Fourteen Opinion Journal Jesse Wegmann editor Appelbaum Jim Del
"katie kingsbury" Discussed on Straight Up with Stassi

Straight Up with Stassi

04:39 min | 1 year ago

"katie kingsbury" Discussed on Straight Up with Stassi

"And I wouldn't Kristen God sung by beat though. Yep. She had to sleep on the cot. Oh, isn't she was the one who is the biggest pain in the ass and the group? So she was voted someone was going to have to sleep on the cot. We voted a new lust. That's how it was how it works against one. Oh my God. At least you freely admit it, it in a group of three when there are three people. Sometimes I'm the one that's voted against generally rotates. That's true. Someone's always the odd man out in every situation. That's just life. True. All right. Okay. We'll do a fun random question Kemp. You're stuck on an island for one year with one, other vanden, pump rules, cast mate, and it can't be bow. Okay. Who do you want to be stuck with? And what five items do you wanna bring with you? This is coming from marquee, sorry. I don't notice your last name Z. Okay. All right. I stink go to Katie, but she's a girl and a whole year. I'm just I'm just clarifying the timing. Well, let's go over the dude, I Thompson of all. No jacks, no Schwartz possibly. He's a he's a he's a contender in K, Katie and Schwartz contenders. Kristen. Contender sheena? No. She couldn't do anything LA LA, you would think should be a bad bitch and could handle stuff. No, she is. No. She couldn't she'd be the like least annoying. But I would have to do all the work. So, like, yeah. Okay. Lalla talks a big game. I just feel like she's so capable. I don't know. She talks like that. And then once it comes down to it. She's like, I don't feel like I don't want to know I don't know. And I'm like, gosh, I'm telling you when I was in Paris, I was like you are all talk, which makes me love you even more like who are just a softy. Lalas out. On his out. So what do we have left we have, Katie, Katie or Schwartz, Kristin, Kristin would stress me out? I think I think Chris would handle my so Reese, which, but, but. She would stress me out. Okay. So, like, right there, I'm like listen. I need to be calm because I'm gonna panic and freak the fuck out, so I can't handle the like, and if I'm not pulling my weight she would one hundred percent like let me know until, like I need to be able, I, honestly feel like I'm gonna go Schwartz. Okay. And what five things would you bring with you? Oh my gosh. He's only what ends are loaded. I know I love them. Well, I just don't. Think of sickly that you can't you can't bring a phone because there's nowhere to charge it. So. You can't do that. Honestly, if you're stranded on an island, why even bother bringing anything, why bother there's nothing. There's nothing you actually need. I know something you need a knife and. It's not in your fridge water hot sauce fuck that. I'm trying to eat hots. If you're fishing, the ocean, or like cracking open, a coconut at point zero FOX really, I think eight needed knife. I'm trying to be practical here. I needed nice. I need one of the long lighters because that'll last well, last some good time K not a small lighter. Yep. Along one so get to right there. Tampons. Yes, that would be annoying. Especially as far as Katie. Katie actually just Katie Kingsbury capable. I agree. I think it's us Katie over shorts. Okay. Yeah. Lighter knife temps. I've two left. I think that's all. Oh, do you. Oh my glasses. So I can see. And a rain coat. Okay. And a raincoat shelter. That's fair shelter. So I think that's great list now. It's actually an excellent list. Okay. I dare anyone to try and rival that list. Okay. Ms confident. That was good. That was I I'm, like, really impressed. But myself could job. Thank you. 'cause he'd be like, look boom, look phone, duh wasn't thinking for a second. No doubt navy for a year. That's what that meant. Yeah. What's okay. New category. New categories..

Katie Kingsbury Schwartz Lalla Kristen God Reese Katie sheena Chris Kemp LA LA Kristin Paris one hundred percent one year