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Pelosi Defends Decision to Reject 2 GOP Lawmakers for Jan. 6 Committee
"Nancy pelosi put an end to the republican effort to disrupt the work of the select committee on january six. Today there's new reporting the speakers adding even more republicans to the already bipartisan investigation. Many hossan and katie hill are here to talk about at all next. You had hundreds of thousands of people i would venture to say. I think it was the largest crowd. I've ever spoken before. It went from that point which is almost at the white house to beyond the washington monument. It was an an wide and But if you could win was a loving crowd too by the way there was a lot of love. I've heard that from everybody. Many many people told me that was a loving gra correspond with president. Donald trump talking to washington post reporters carolina and philip rucker about the loving crowd at the january. Six rally. just before the insurrection. Now more than five hundred people from the said loving crowd who marched the capital and started a riot have been arrested as a massive investigation into what happened. That day continues the house. Select committee is now moving forward. Today speaker pelosi defended her decision to continue without any of the five republicans picked by house. Minority leader kevin mccarthy after she vetoed two of them and he pulled the three. Select committee is bipartisan. And it has a and it will do. The job it sets out to do. Is my responsibility as speaker of the house. To make sure we get to the truth on this and we will not let their antics stand in the way of that. One republican liz cheney wyoming remains on the committee. They're reportedly been discussions about speaker. Pelosi potentially adding others like congressman adam anger of illinois.
Katie Hill on Matt Gaetz: 'I feel betrayed by him'
"In twenty nineteen then democratic congresswoman katie hill who. We'd have in the program number times resigned from congress after revelations of an inappropriate relationship with someone who worked on her campaign and that relationship have been exposed in a really awful way in nude photos that were leaked to and then published nate british tabloid without katie hills consent. Now he'll sued that tabloid for violating california's revenge porn law. Yesterday she lost that suits. You now plans to appeal. Katie hill also struck up what she called an unlikely friendship with matt gaetz in congress not the time when she resigned gates actually publicly defended her over the league's photos the two kept in touch through twenty twenty despite pizzas relationship with donald trump but their relationship petered out after the trump january. Six insurrection then. Cnn reported the congressman gates had showed nude photos of women he had slept with two lawmakers in a new piece in vanity fair. Katie hill writes. That report is true. Engage in the very practicing defended me from and should resign immediately and katie hill joins me now. It's it's it's great to have you on the program katie. I wonder if you just maybe just sort of talk about your relationship. Friendship with matt gaetz. What you sort of thought of what you make of all this now. I mean look. We became friends because we served on the same committee in. We're about the same age. And he was friendly to me when i was in new lawmaker but when it really mattered when i was feeling particularly abandoned by the people within my own party And when i felt just betrayed in alone in disgusted and Disgusted with myself. It matters a lot that somebody stands up free and i. I don't know how many people have been in a situation that right where you were anybody standing up for. You feels like a big deal but it gets a lot of points and now with all of this coming out. I think people can certainly say that. I have maybe not made the mess choices. When it comes to my relationships with men i had a real relationship with matt gaetz but regardless i feel i feel betrayed by him and i have to wonder about his motivations for defending me in the first place.
"katie hills" Discussed on Stay Tuned with Preet
"Is possible. This question comes in an email from Jason writes. Dear preet Kudos to the SDN y. a USA's agents in. USPS united. States postal inspection service inspectors for the recent indictment. In the We build the wall investigation. It seems highly unusual to me that our good friends at the FBI were excluded. Why Do you think FBI irs? That's irs criminal investigations didn't participate in this impact Financial Investigation Yours truly humble irs CIA agent. You know well, that's a good question that people been asking. Obviously I ran that Office for seven and a half years. So I can speculate and this is pure speculation because I have no knowledge at all and and as you know is a former agent with the IRS, the cases come about in various ways. Sometimes, a case comes across agents deaths. Because there's a whistle blower or there's an informant or complaint made or it's a off shoot of another case that the agent has been working on, and then that agent in whatever agency Da Secret Service FBI IRS, whatever can generally in their discretion bring the case to a particular US Attorney's office in New York they're multiple options right there there two. Years Attorneys offices in new. York City itself the only city in the country that has more than was turned his office. The entire state of Massachusetts only has one attorney's office New York State has four. So it's possible in this case that the matter came to the attention of the US Postal Inspection Service and they brought it to Stn wine which makes. Sense for a lot of reasons It's also possible as happens in SDN Y in particular that cases originate within the office not only are there are great and fabulous assistant attorneys both in the criminal and civil divisions there. But a sort of well kept secret STI has a whole group of investigators when I was there there were about nineteen of them. Some of them, former police, officers, some of them, former federal agents, and they work for SDN Y and have the ability to carry on investigations, and they are forced to be reckoned with some of our most significant political corruption investigations. For example, were largely driven by the SDN. Why investigators who were among the greatest people I've ever met I've written about several of them in my book doing justice, which you may recall if you've read it. So, one possibility is that the southern district was on its own conducting this mostly document driven bank material driven investigation with respect to Steve, Bannon, and the others in the We build the wall investigation, and at some point, it becomes necessary to involve another federal agency just for a lot of reasons relating to procedure in administration and logistics, and also to get their training and experience and bring them on board after you've advanced particular amount i. Don't know if that's true. But that's sometimes is the case that happened with some of our political corruption cases, and then there is speculation and again, I will not open one way or another on this. But I think it is possible that given the sensitive nature of the investigation given the degree to which STI might have been concerned about intrusion an interference at the highest levels of the Justice Department because Steve Bannon was a potential target. That when the SDN Y was choosing who to partner with they went with an agency that is great and respected in I've worked with them on a lot of cases when I was in the office as long prosecutor also. To bring, agency, that was not part of the Justice Department. So that the risk of being reported up in a way that might draw interference was lower. Some people have said that I don't know if that's true, I wish I knew I miss being there and knowing all the secrets I don't know in any event the partnership between SDN Y in the US postal inspection service goes back a long way.
"katie hills" Discussed on Two Broads Talking Politics
"You know that can rotary and You know we we did even though it was a short time we became close friends. So grateful for that. Well, I I. Still Remember where I was when I heard that you were resigning. You know I know some people are like they remember where they were when JFK was killed or something I remember where I was here and you were resigning. Only I. Understand respect the decision that you made and I am so thrilled that you wrote this book like I said, it's just really really incredible and so thank you for being with with us today and thank you for using the voice that you have i. saw you tweeted the other day. That's your. Friends in Congress say you speak so much more now? That you're out. I'm glad you're using that for good. A little less restricted. Thank you. Thank you I appreciate it. You gotta take the perks where they come one of them is sleeping in. Her is. Is being able to say whatever you want. While Katie thank you so much. Thank you. We will put links to to the book the pack up on our website. So I hope everyone will check that out and everyone who chose to listen to this instead of watching the RNC convention. Very good choice. Absolutely. They so much for having me. Thank you for listening to two bras talking politics part of the dim cast podcast network. Our theme song is called. Are you listening off of the album elephant shaped trees by the.
"katie hills" Discussed on Two Broads Talking Politics
"In my experience, usually because the person refuses to take responsibility for what they did in the past or lies about what they did in the past or. Victim blames for what they did in the past I feel like that is a nuance that is often overlooked in in discussion cancel with. I agree and I think about yeah and and it's Har-. It's not easy for us to kind of decide when somebody commits a forgivable act or how you know how you're supposed to take responsibility and even I ask these questions in the book like. I know that people there are some people who who are rightfully. So still upset with me even though I did resign who you know who wants some kind of who more accountability or responsibility and and and I ask and I genuinely mean this, what can I do but I don't I know that I shouldn't be putting the responsibility on anyone else to to try and figure out what the what the right thing to do. But I think it's a question we should be asking ourselves because it's certainly one that I'm asking myself and and I guess the only answer I've come up with is to to try to the to do something positive with it. Knowing, that my my resignation has had a has had an impact on people in a you know and and certainly on myself it was it was something that I you know I have course didn't want to resign, but it also had reverberating impacts. We lost that seat that I flipped I hope we get back in November but so I feel a great deal of responsibility for so many things and I I think that the only way I can live with myself is by. Trying to divert it into my energy into something positive. You talk a lot about how it would be great if women not just had as sort of equal representation at this point, but actually, it just were in charge of everything for a while which I completely agree with. You know and. And, we're not there. We're not going to get there but we we at least now have a a woman as vice president candidates from your from your own State and California how do we talk about the though the that that women should be in charge of more people are always throwing back though so that's identity politics know how how do we frame this messaging in a way to to make it clear that that look no we we should be putting women in charge because they have had different experiences and and that's not just identity politics whatever that Y- yeah. Yeah well, I think that that's That's sort of been defy. In. The way that I've been talking about it is that like I'm of the the whole concept of you know, you shouldn't vote for a woman because she's a woman or. You know you don't want to vote for somebody just because of their identity of course, it's not just because of that. But my point is that if a woman has reached the level that you know of running for office of being considered a serious candidate of you know of whatever she's had to accomplish in our life to get to that point then she's probably more qualified than the guys that she's running against anyway. Just because of the double standards that we've had to face our entire through are throughout our entire existence, and so I like to stay that we should vote for women because they're women and that we shouldn't shy away from that because it is it does bring a diversity of experience and a different way of governing and you know a different. Way of collaborating and of leading and it it has we need to to aggressively make strides in trying to turn over who holds the power forever going to get to fifty percent. If we're ever going to even get to parody than were we, we're going to have to do it with intentionally and I'm even asking allies men who our allies instead of. Insisting on being the candidate yourself can you support a woman? Who is can you? You know if you're if you're this guy who's wanted to be in politics forever what about your wife like she could? She be better at this than you and I think that there's a there's a real and by the way I'm saying this because I several of the men that I that I was in Congress with like I got to their wives to and I'm like you guys would be so much better than your husband's sometimes they are behind the scenes but I just wish that they. That they were the ones who are in front you I think I think about Gavin newsom in. I. I don't get me wrong. He's he's my governor I. Love Him but his wife Jennifer symbolism is just incredible and I'm like I just wish. She was. He was the first man and she was the she was the principal. But you know, I think that that's a that's really the messing around. It should be that look this is an identity politics. This is we are half of the population and we all want is equal representation. We just want half of you know we're not. We're not saying that men should be gone. We're not saying that they they shouldn't have a say at all but we're saying that you've had the say for thousands of years and it's it's time for us clearly, it's not working. It's time for us to have a little bit of a change in the evidence. The research backs it up that you know women in leadership positions or when you have a a a large enough percentage of women in. Governance. In different kinds of legislative bodies, it makes a true impact women send more money back to their districts. They they a they've done better. This was just published that that the response to covid has been better in their led by women and you know the the. Situation after situation like that. Which I detail in the book. All right. So speaking of the book, How do our listeners get the puck short? So you can go to she will rise book Dot Com, and it gives you all the different places that you can buy it with the Audio e book with got print Format that's it I feel like that's all the site. The. It gives you all the different vendors that you can buy it from and You know obviously it's on it's on all the big ones Amazon included and I. If. People want. to follow the pack, shoot a really important one, and that's her dash time dot com and we'll put links to those on our website as well. I. Love that you did the Audio Book Yourself I am a big fan of audio books because I can do things like workout at the same time and you know you those. MOMS do. So. I. I love audiobooks anyway I think you know having it in your own voice makes it even that much more meaningful. So I'm really glad that you did audiobook yourself. Yeah that was an interesting experience to yeah I'm glad that I did it as well. Are you still in in touch with your friends from Congress I knew you were roommates with Lauren Underwood who's been a longtime friend of the PODCAST. Oh definitely. Yeah I'm I'm in touch with with a lot of them and I live primarily in DC still so I can still is the right word end so when they were coming back a lot. I was getting together with them and I got to with descaling a bit better with Cova Than California is a lot better than California as into we. You know we had dinner outside and things like that. So it's you know they're still Serving in the trenches of some kind when you know it's very difficult to kind of explain what that's what it's like to serve if you if you haven't been in there and so there's just something nice about.
"katie hills" Discussed on Two Broads Talking Politics
"East feels like she's got the support and the you know the the the kind of I don't know moral highground to say, no, I'm a I'm a human I make mistakes also this I was a victim of something. I was not this isn't my My own failing right. So I think it is challenging, right? It's it's incredibly difficult for us to to expect women to to kind of undergo the public scrutiny and the you know the just the the crap that they have to deal with when they're running for officer elected to office. But we need them to and it's a it's a it's a true public service and it's a fight that has to be that really has to be fought. In have been thinking a lot about how. These things happen in politics rate the personal scandals things come up and and so often especially sort of in the me too moment we're sort of looking at these men making have apologies and saying, why can't they do better what you know and then other people saying we'll what would true accountability look like what what sort of response would we be happy with and yet here you experience this thing where you were also a victim at the same time and yet did give this wonderful gracious response and you know. I'm sort of in this moment where things like the Jerry Falwell situation are happening and Aaron Coleman and we're seeing then again, get call now and not be able to respond like wait what is it gonNA take to get true accountability from male politicians who are going through candles like how how do we fix double standard that exists that clearly exist. The only thing that I can think of is the we really have to hold meant to the same standard and and part of why I decided to step down a big part of why I decided to step down as that, I did not want to be considered a hypocrite and. I didn't want to be the person who was you know kind of forcing us a S as Democrats progressives. Or even us as women to say, well, it doesn't apply these things that were asking for don't apply in this case in you know I, I talk about in the book and I've talked about in interviews the why? Why I think my situation y you know I think that it's it's part of a gray area and and how I do acknowledge my responsibility in the matter but how you know I think. There's a pretty big difference between like Harvey, Weinstein Situation and and you know what? What happened in mind but I think that I I still wanted to set an example of saying you I did I did something wrong by engaging in this power dynamic and I'm sorry for it and I I wanted to show that you can. You can accept that responsibility but you also it doesn't mean that you have to. Be, benched I. Guess Forever if you take the responsibility you try to, you try to make amends for it by doing something positive, which is what which attempting to do with the pack. So my you know I think what we have to do for men is individuals Aaron, Coleman. I, wrote I wrote an op Ed recently in the daily beast because. We see these progressive men who were defending him as opposed to saying that he picked the same kind of accountability and there's this total There is this total double standard in I. Don't know how much of it is because he's a man or how much it is because he had this this particularly progressive agenda that he was running on Bernie Sanders Bro kind of thing. But I think it's incredibly important that we continue to call that out his at as women in particular we don't stand for it. We see that misogyny and this kind of. Behavior is something that we're not going to accept from within our own party in. It's not something that we're going to condone, and we do not expect the men who call themselves allies to do that either. But you know also we can recognize that there's a gray area. We can recognize that people make mistakes in their past in and if they apologize if they own it if they take the responsibility in there and they're trying to do better with it than you know we should we should reflect on what we think is, can they can they contribute? Politics or otherwise than I hope that the answer is ultimately yes. But if they won't even take that responsibility if they try to brush off if they try to say that you know well, like I mean Aaron. Coleman he's nineteen years old at first. It was it we just learned. Today or yesterday that he had. He had much more recent in horrible instance of violently attacking his ex girlfriend just within the last year. But before that he it was he was hit. Bullied and Committed cyber exploitation against several young girls when he was fourteen years old, that's five years ago and he didn't serve any kind of he didn't really have any consequences for it and he didn't. He said that he you know he was sorry for what he did but he didn't he really truly never took the accountability for never Five years is simply not much time to have passed and and sure enough we found out that his behavior continued. So I think that those these are these tough conversations that we're going to be having you know out and we we should be having as we're as we're changing society. You know we bought some people. Men in particular have you know have committed these acts that are that were tolerated by society for so long and are not anymore so you know if they're changing their behavior now what we do with what they did in the past. Yeah I think it's just so a it. It struck me every time it came up in the book that you're like, yeah I also did something wrong you know and and just so straight-forward acknowledging is so powerful and meaningful. Is Done. So little. By the the men in these positions right? I mean like that's that's the part that just kind of blows my mind is it's like you you can be wrong. You know you can. You can say that I I screwed up and I'm sorry and I want to make things better and I don't I don't know if that's If that's a masculine ego. Thinking that makes it so much more difficult for men but I think it it must be at least partially or it might be because we have just let them get away with it for so long or or you know that society not we as women but just society as a whole has has not expected. Them has not expecting good behavior manner has not expected apologies or has allowed them to to kind of brush it off as like in the same way that we've had this boys will be boys mentality for for Kids I. Think we've had these men will be men you you almost expect cheat and. End To do these these things that are when women do something similar are. Considered important and You know sort of give you a scarlet letter. And I think that's missing. So often from the discussion, especially on the right wing of quote canceled culture this idea of own. But what's what's you know what people make a mistake or you're gonNA cancel them for it I feel like what is often missed that the cancellation is.
"katie hills" Discussed on Two Broads Talking Politics
"Anthony and it was pretty clear from reading what you wrote that that that's ridiculous that soupy that he would never wanted to have been pardoned for this a bit. Can you talk a little bit about her her story and it's clear that you feel some? Affinity for some of these sort of early warrior women in American Politics Yeah I mean the thing that I think a lot of people might not even really remember because we we aren't taught a lot about this. There may be a day if that of or chapter of women of the Women's suffrage movement. As you're growing up in, you know in history class or whatever. I don't honestly remember learning much about it in school. So when I, when I have been for the research but also just kind of as having like a hero or or or women figures to look up to as when I was younger the there there are only so many that you hear about about like Joan of ARC and. And You know people like Susan, B. Anthony that you've you've peripherally learned about end. So as I as I wanted to learn more about her I learned that these you know she fought is she in her peers fought for this right to vote and they died before it even happened so. You know they had to make these really incredible sacrifices to to even get us further and further. To Get closer to that you know such a basic right in one of the stories that I really focused on in the book is how she she in several of her. Her peers were actually arrested by they. They successfully registered to vote, but she was she was pretty fierce in she kind of scared these young men who were serving his election officials into allowing her to register under the basically making the argument that the constitution already provided for all. For All people all citizens to have the right to vote. So they allowed her to register, and then she actually voted and then two weeks later she was arrested and tried in the trial was a total mess in the judge basically didn't even allow the jurors to make the decision they he the judge force them to it, and just outright said that the jury. Must find her guilty and I think it's just a her her response in that moment was one that I kind of really went into the details around because it was just so powerful and it out was why when trump pardoned her so it was so clear she wanted to be a martyr is not quite the right word she wanted to make a point that. This is a fundamental injustice that she that women would be held a held as criminals for executing a basic citizens right in our our democracy, and so when were you know as we're as we're kind of moving forward in this and recognizing the sacrifices that were made into the fight that was that was that was undertaken by these women than pardoning her. is almost in a way it's acknowledging that or sort of saying that it was a criminal act ever which she flatly rejected and it's also saying that she you know it it takes the way the fact that she was defiant in that act so I wrote bad about it too. Once he did it and I think that it's a it's a pretty important kind of. A reflection of how trump is just totally clueless in an likes to take symbols and an e use them for political purposes in regardless of their actual intent. Is that in several places in an unbelievable. So in your book that you don't want other young women to be dissuaded by your experience of having. Had to step down and having had your personal life used against you in the media and you've started as pack to start encouraging women to run for office. But then I'm thinking like, how do we? Seems to be a tension between wanting to encourage women to run for office, and then what they're actually seeing I, remember I read an interview with you in fortune where you talked about feeling like a freedom now that you're not in office to say to say what to be straight about what is going on in your life and I'm wondering sort of how we negotiate that tension. How can we? Encourage. Other younger women to run for office when they see what happens to women who actually attain that power when they see sort of the the damage that gets done to them. Yeah. Well, the the the argument I make throughout the book and and when I talked to him in who are considering running or who are running now. Is that you are already a warrior in the fight for Women's equality whether you whether you want to be or not whether you think you are not. You already are because we're facing these these struggles every single day one in three women is. Statistically, going to be sexually assaulted throughout her lifetime. The statistics around domestic violence are insane and it's you know it's something that we that we really have to. Have to address on a fundamental level of the pay. Equality Pieces is impacting women and families to the point where. Really in a lot of ways considered second-class citizens still. When lip service is paid to the fact that we have a quality, but it's just not true when it comes down to action and and the way that things are implemented. So. My my argument is that you're you're already experiencing damages that are being done by us not having quality not having equal representation, and so you are. You're brave you are a warrior by stepping up and saying you're willing to run and you have know that you're you know these kinds of things can happen but I guess the sort of lesson from what I from what happened to me, and also what I think. You know I'm hoping by vice standing back up and saying, no, this isn't something that can take me down permanently is that the next time something similar goes down with a with another woman enough as that she doesn't feel the need to resign..
"katie hills" Discussed on Two Broads Talking Politics
"Of the dumb cast family of podcast and I am on today with my co hosts Sophie as Sophie. Hey Kelly and we are very excited a little bit fan girly even to joined today by Katie Hill who is the author of a great new book that will talk about and also the founder of the her time pack. So High Kenny Hello so much for having me I'm excited to be here. Yeah. We are very excited to to have you on so first of all Happy Birthday Thank you. Thank you. It was a good day yesterday. Yes. So Birthday, we've got women's Equality Day. It's a good time here. It is. And we're all ignoring the Republican convention. Gosh. I had two nights of birthday celebration things in. So I was able to fully check out and. Tonight have. Gotten event with the Commonwealth. Club, so I'm keeping myself busy during all of these. These nights just tried to ignore twitter. Excellent. Excellent. So let's start with talking some about the book, and so the book is called she will rise came out a couple of weeks ago and it's fantastic. So it does a little bit about in a way would. You to write the book and sort of the audience that you're trying to reach with. US. Shore. Well, what inspired me? I mean I think probably this point most people who are listening to your podcast. about my. My resignation last year, and the fact that it came after my ex has been had released. Naked pictures of me in conjunction with the right wing media and with my Republican kind of political. Operatives in in the districts that were trying to take me out and so you know a lot of things contributed to the resignation but ultimately, I decided that the best thing for me to do would be to step down and in kind of the aftermath of that you know I felt like it was really important and I said this in my resignation speech I am I am not going to be in the halls of Congress anymore, but I am not giving up the fight and If anything what happened to me made me feel like I needed to up I needed to double down on my efforts, but I didn't know what that would look like yet. So for writing the book, it actually serves a dual purpose in one way it actually helped me really process the you know. Everything the emotional aspects of of everything that had happened and also really just put into a structured concrete plan. How can how I can contribute moving forward and that's really the work of her time. And I kind of take us through on the book tickets through the personal story. My own experiences but how those are really reflective in examples of. These almost universal experiences that women have that show that equality is still a long way off, and here we are a hundred years from the time. We got the right to vote but we we still have a lot of work to do and when you talk about audience I, want it to be abroad since but really you know I, think the people who have the the biggest potential to be impacted are especially younger women so I hope that this gets into the hands of You know Y- goals in in younger women who who can who can learn from it and be really inspired to to to take up the fight. So I gotta say Sophie and I have read a lot of political wear type books. We did a whole series of episodes where we reviewed the books of the Presidential Candidates and Oh nice and this is much more personal and moving. To be fair, they're all running for president so they're trying to be careful. But I I, really like how you were able to sort of combine these these deeply personal emotional moments also practical advice, and that's I think that's a tricky thing to do obscene a Lotta traded to it. What was her to your process in in writing this, figuring out how to weave together anecdotal things things about your family. But also, this very real sort of and this is what we do. Yeah it's a good question I guess. I kind of had an idea in my head about what I wanted to I i. didn't want this just to be a memoir. So people ask me kind of like are you gonNA write a memoir and I'm like I didn't I didn't feel like there was enough of a purpose for me to just talk about myself. I wanted it to translate into something actionable and especially because I felt like that was the promise that I made by stepping down. Was this this has to turn it into something more and and. So as I was as I was outlining the book and for me, you know I was actually an English major. So getting into politics ended up. It was a strange turn of events in the first place but so for me outlining and really kind of getting your your thesis in the point you WanNa get across for each section of the book. Each chapter was a really important part of the of physically paving the way to be able to write everything else out. So it's almost like the the narrative was was a that was much more natural that that kind of wove itself in just by coming out of me, I was trying as I knew the the sort of the chapters that I wanted to hit the experiences that I wanted to touch on. That I thought really contributed to two factors that are keeping us from achieving equality. So when you talk about workplace dynamics or pay equality or inequality and you know our personal safety in domestic violence in those pieces that I I know have touched my own life and that of my family and actually the fact that my my grandmother's story ended up becoming a big part of the book was also unexpected and I think it's it was really it was a it was a great learning experience for me in terms of how to approach writing if I, you know I decide to do this again. Kelly had mentioned in the use started her time. Can you tell us a little bit about her time instead of what the pack does assure dates and endorses? Yes. So when I stepped down I, had a about a million dollars in my reelection campaign fund and I had a choice to either just leave it there. In case I decide to run for something down the road or I could turn it into a to what I did, which is political. Action Committee, and by doing that basically, it converts all the money to resources that we can spend directly giving to candidates or on behalf of candidates at to to help them get elected in the mission for her time is to elect more women specifically young women and women of Color into offices. All Levels primarily focused on the congressional races, but we've also expanded it now to state legislative races it wide races isn't even some local races that are. We know we can have a bigger impact on because if you read the books and it all comes down to, we've got all these different policies that we can enact in that Evidence based in have have broad support but if we don't have the right people in power meaning if we don't have equal representation. By, women four women than were not going to be able to get these done. So it's it's all about translating the the kind of ideas in the book into into action. See you mentioned. I mentioned I don't know somebody mentioned. Top that we're I I years out from women getting the right to vote now, and you talk some in your book about Susan B. Anthony and struggles of the that she went through and actually being arrested for for voting and you know just recently, of course, trump decided to pardon Susan B..
"katie hills" Discussed on Hysteria
"Way art is valued together and welcome back. We've reached the part of the show. We all share with you some tips on trying to stay sane it is sanity corner one sanity corner for us for all of us. I think over these last. Several weeks has been hysteria movie club which has been Super Fun. It's where we watch a movie that is old not old but like ten years older more we re watch it with fresh eyes decide whether it holds up and what kind of people were watching onscreen. And it's a lot on this week. We did the social network. You can catch on crooked media's Youtube page on Sundays. We post it so catch US talking about the social network with a bona fide. Harvard graduate cured deal. It's a lot of. It's a lot of fun. You guys should definitely tune in if you want to hear us. Go off on Mark Zuckerberg elicit you want to start sanity corner this week. Yeah so nice. Amny corner is very small innings to look forward to and so on Tuesdays. I watch hysteria movie club movie and on Mondays. This is like there are not a lot of nights where things look forward to but On Sunday Nights I Watch Ninety Day fiance and I realized that I'm one of many many people that this is become a thing. The show is efforts on better but I even have my hubs it with me now to because that's the thing it's like we're in the house together and so it's so much more fun to watch something with someone and so. I've literally been like you WanNa Watch and so now we watch and He has very fun. Commentary like wait. A minute is the tourists and I was like no. He's coming up next So that honestly is is all of the iterations of ninety nine say it's ninety day fiance before the ninety days. Where are they now and pillow? Talk which is hands down the best the best version. But that's what I'm not GONNA lie. I'm watching trash television but I'm not. Db DVR. It's like watching a second time if we talked too much during it. But that's it that's it. It's it's communal television watching on Sundays to ninety day fiance. I haven't seen you in a while. Eliza are you still enjoying the company of your husband? Yes yes I have to show you guys after rain here. This is our countdown calendar of how many as we've been here it's like imprison like we're not imprison were day a sixty eight as day. Sixty eight that. We've been along together in the House I will say and I had stipulated up front. I love him another small sanity. Corner is when we tape here today He usually takes a drive back down to Manhattan should check our mail and packages and like when we came up here. We didn't think we were going to be here for a whole new seasons of clothing. And so he takes a trip down and honestly it's nice. It's Nice it's nice business. My Saturday corner is simple this week. I've really gotten into bleaching surfaces in my house like once I go grocery run. You put everything away and then you clean up and then you wipe things down with bleach and the place smells I liked. It smells like bleach. I I don't know if I've lost my mind but I like I. Bleach the light switches and all the things that people like doorknobs and all that it feels very like it's clean. Now you're like we can sit down now. Joanna exactly I get it. How are your taste buds are? Can you still taste stuff? I don't taste the bleach. So you're fine. You're like inhaling it and then you're like what is this nation's they didn't take presidential guidance and tried to inject shrinking. She just uses it. To defect Sir Disinfect Service here and she's fine. I'm fine I'm not. I'm not licking the bleach yet. All right here in. What's Your Sanity Corner This Week. Lick Bleach Lick. We just now. We can't even joke about that now. Really No I. As you know have always been an advocate of staring at walls But now I I mean I just started reading one of Samantha. Irby's books it's the will never talk in real life it. It's one of the older ones. I just didn't know about her as an author and a she's fantastic so I feel I've made a new discovery of someone that is hilarious funny and like I look forward to hearing her point of view so I've discovered some good comedic female authors and that's been really nice. That's great so many books are bad so many books especially like I love reading. I novels. I love buying first novels and reading. I NOVELS TO SUPPORT THE WRITERS. Because now we're writing sounds horrible and a lot of first novels are like we have to unleash all the tragedies in this book and I'm like I there's a book that finished that it's a good book but I had to stop because it was just like I just stop and like take a breath and it was just like too much tragedy so it's good to like find funny books. I think right. Now you're finding books are nicer like light. Some some light content is really fun. You know so funny books yet. Never have I ever also mindy killings new show. That was great. Yeah that's a really fun series. She did a great job. All the actors are fantastic on it. That's an it's fun and they. It feels in fun you know what else is light and fun for anyone who cares the new amy. Schumer cooking show with her husband. Amy Schumer Learns to Cook. It's fucking his because it's exactly what you what you want from her. Her husband is also Funny and charming and I learned how to make recipes. That were like very easy really Good I need some people to replace. Some certain cooks who? I no longer really going to be following the recipes of Ood Dr. Let me tell you. I don't know what happened. He can Mr Amy Schumer got it. Mr Zuma's the chuck variety right right exactly. Although they are related what cousins. He's like second cousins or something. Amy and Chucker cousin power family. Amy Schumer and Chuck Schumer for People. Not Following all right on that note. That's all the time we have for this week's episode of hysteria. Thanks Tula Semester. Monico for calling in things secure and deal and thanks Katie Hill for joining us. The news segment. Thanks to all of you for listening. There will be more hysteria next week. This Janet.
"katie hills" Discussed on Hysteria
"Like people have convulsions. Throw up and there's like something that is really and like other things that have killed off. Lots of people have also been gross like the plague was fucking disgusting like things that Ebola is a really horrifying thing to to see. This is something that's like. Oh Yeah you get like glass particle like formations inside of your lungs that never away and you drown in your own body. That's something that we don't really like. We can't see the disease isn't like something if you saw a picture of somebody who was dying of covert apart from the fact that in a lot of cases they're hooked up to a bunch of machinery. It's not like they have sores and I almost think read. It would be easier for people to understand if we could like it would be easier for people understand the repercussions of them not respecting rules. If there was a more people were more visibly sick and I'm not complaining. I'm it is a horrible designing very true it because because the problem is when they show people who have it on. Tv eight goes the the sort of Cova deniers when they're like. It looks just like the flu or looks just like it physically. If you haven't even with the tubes it's like yeah it's like a bad flu or an address headed an interest was just like I'll go Kobe. Nineteen from house and he's just normal. He's fine he you either can't feel anything just got covered so take serious. You know what I mean. That's that was him with it. It's there's also an uncertainty right. Some people get it terrible like really bad. It's like seventy to eighty percent of people might recover and be fine. But then there's a percentage of people that would be a massive amount of of death in this country if you know all of the people if all of those people got it but it's it because it's also a little bit of a luck of the draw of what happens if you get it. You know I think it also makes people are like well. I'll just roll the dice. Then because the odds are in my favor or or ear and I remember when I saw you before before the quarantine happened I remember you. Were talking about flattening the curve. And you said you know the. I think you were talking to somebody in your family who works in healthcare. And you're like there was a point at which the news cycle was saying. Everyone's going to get it and this is about flattening the curve. You know like an. I don't know if that's true anymore because I can't feel my face so but that should see that's a you know I. I wonder if that plays into it to this idea of the gamble because of the severity. Yeah I mean you know what else another game where the odds are in your favor. Russian roulette so let's not. Let's be a little bit. Let's let's be realistic here. It's like a dishes cheeto pepper plate. Where one out of what one out of five people will be permanently damaged or killed by the Shishido pepper. It's like not a risk that it is okay for us to take even though it canceling all of our plans. It is fucking with our psyches. I Eliza I like your idea of writing down cultural events in the calendar when something's hitting a streaming service love that I'm telling you and so it is. You should abstain this house today. Mrs America came out. It was like clear the decks. We are watching it. I R. L. At mean it was it was it was it. Does it end? It's it's it is truly like enjoyable. It does give you something to look forward to. If you're willing to be that so I guess out in twenty twenty big plans in in two thousand twenty little plans we have to take a break though a plan to break and when we come back we have a plan to talk about sanity corner. You guys in the SEC..
"katie hills" Discussed on Hysteria
"Among all this uncertainty so like what are people supposed to do. Are we just supposed to do you know what I mean like? Do you think that college make plans to reopen understanding that they might have to reverse course and I I mean I think that you make a good point. His part of me wonders. I think that there is a small minority of people who are probably being very selfish but I wonder if there is a larger population of people who feel like they feel so out of control. Like I can't do anything I feel like people have like. It's one thing and then it's another thing and then it's another thing that another thing so I might have to do something. Do you know what I mean like. Like like the the social fabric of trust in a government official or in the person who's telling you it's in who's in charge is is really imperative for everyone to buy in and participate and if this is going to be eighteen months twenty four months thirty six months. Whatever the situation is what is what is what is the plan. I like as a nation is the plan. Phased reopenings restaurants at twenty five percent capacity. Is the plan like. Let's just keep everything closed until it's totally gone forever you know. And and that's you know and then obviously that has massive repercussions on the holding pattern that we have all been in for hourly every single person has been in for their. You know this this time period and I think people get nervous because it's like what am I going to do about my paycheck? What am I going to do is my business fall apart. Is You know because one or two months is one thing but once you start to get into oh it might be through all of the fall so people can attend college or like those. What about those kids? Who are graduating. What are they? GonNa do their jobs. You know like getting like can you imagine graduating right now into this economy? Like beyond just the graduation. I mean like being to like nineteen or twenty and having to go out into looking like into the workforce. Yeah I mean that's almost unfathomable to me I I'd imagine a lot of people are moving home But also yeah I mean. Here's the thing like it's really frustrating. I think because almost literally everywhere in the world except maybe Brazil is doing a better job at handling this than us and it sucks. Because we're supposed to be. We're supposed to be this great country of like can do innovation put your head down and get it done. Doesn't matter how hard it is and like our inability to handle this as a reflection of a complete failure of leadership but also a failure of our collective ability to take care of each other. Because like you look at a place like South Korea New Zealand Norway. Those are all places that the citizens accepted a really. Like really draconian things like social tracing contact tracing which. I got an alert on my citizen APP earlier this week. That's like would you like to be one of the people that does contact tracing and I don't think enough Americans are GONNA do that in New Zealand? When things started getting better the prime minister who is I think a thirty nine year old woman a locked the country down even harder and now it's it's they've solved it. It's gone because everybody listened. Everybody did it and it's like you know we can't be a little pregnant here. We have to like do it or don't do it and now we're kind of half doing it and it's the worst of both worlds and it feels like it's so frustrating and it's so easy to like get angry at individual people who are making choices that endanger the progress of overcoming disease but really. It's a failure of leadership because we don't have people setting good examples. I think I mean think about it. We have a president who justice this week. I mean you can't even keep up with what's happened this week. But he's like he denied. There's no denying that so much of the mindset that so many of these people that we see who are flaunting The sort of protections that are being put in place are people who listened to him. It's like we got to open up. We got to open up. We'll we all this. I just think it's so fundamentally. Miss Understood misrepresented in The News I guess we all WanNa Open. I WANNA get back to being able to like hang out with my niece or get a job. I mean talk about plans. I had a bunch of speaking things that were my income for the summer. Or never coming back. How many people just have things that are never coming back and are trying to look forward to being able to go like? I am like looking forward to go to the grocery store this weekend. I'm lucky I have the money to go to the grocery store like like there's just it is it is like Aaron. You're so right. It is a failure from the top Any other person making another Republican Mitt Romney. Okay let's make the President Mitt. I would love that honestly. I think that'd be great now. He does not represent many of my beliefs. But I have no doubt he'd be wearing a instead of taking hydroxy chloroquine for fucking shits okay. That is what Donald Trump is doing is taking it for. Shit and the FDA had to come out and say again like hey everybody only taken up your in a hospital with a doctor and he calls it. Fda trump haters putting that statement out. And that's the problem is that you have people who listened to the president which is reasonable people listening to a president. They're like yeah. It's just a it's a fucking hoax like we're not GonNa die here and the funny thing about schools is that yet there are not a lot of cases are not as many cases in the mid. West as there are in New York or in California or in Chicago but when schools open up colleges specifically. You're not saying the kids from New York can't go to college if the college opens like University of Nebraska Opens Up. Are you saying the kids from New York? Can't come because you know whatever. So they're misunder. They're totally misunderstanding. That by killing everything now and taking this so seriously it will enable things to open back up and for kids to go back to school and people to go back to work and for people whose jobs demand travel to be able to reasonably get on a plane again. Anyway they're so fucking salvation. Awful I can't one of the things that I do find very challenging is like I remember. I remind myself that it's like like it is hard to feel grateful for you know when you get into a car accident like that's a big thing. I've gotten into a couple of massive car accidents. Great driver thank you so much but like five minutes before you get into a car accident. You're not in a car accident right and it's like when you're in the accident like and you've just had this massive fender bender. Whatever happens you look back to like man. Things were so great. Five minutes ago or things were so great ten minutes before. But it's very hard to appreciate when you're driving that you're not in a car accident and and that's it's hard to appreciate when something doesn't happen right like so it's hard to appreciate that you didn't get a parking ticket. It's hard to appreciate that. Cova ease in your town or the people that you know aren't dying like if you're stuck at home and you're not seeing the consequences of the reason wire stuck at home. I think that's a little bit of a mind. Fuck like ice yell struggle with that on like you know in terms of like gratitude or whatever molly to alone here you know in my house but I I struggle with that on stuff like remember to be remembered to be happy that you know you didn't get into a car accident. Remember to be happy that you didn't get a ticket like these. Those kinds of little things and I feel like cove is a massive example of that so if if if this was an outbreak like scenario like a like Hollywood movie vibes like people were seeing the repercussions everywhere around them. It was really. I feel like the compliance would be higher but I wonder if at least part of the reason why people don't feel the imminent threat is because they cannot see it you know and it's very hard to wrap our heads around this like intellectual idea of like no but the reason you're not seeing it is because we're taking this collective action so we're stopping stopping about from happening as opposed to or from getting worse. Yeah Yeah I mean that's a really good point. I was thinking this week. I watched contagion because I does. I'm the only one in America who hasn't watched it and I'm not all the way through but as I was watching it stopped. You're not all the way through. I mean you just got power through chunks. I'm watching it and watching it in chunks. No I started watching it and then I think it went. I fell asleep But the one thing I thought was like Oh you know the plug in contagion is Kinda Gross..
"katie hills" Discussed on Hysteria
"Saying about the plans thing. Something that is really frustrating about it is the knowledge that the thing in between the strange on more now and a time when we might be able to make plans again are people who just can't put up with the they just can't deal with it like people who are like bursting out of their houses to go get to protest and people who who are like demanding that stay at home orders be lifted on them and their states even though they don't even though they don't have any reason to believe that the pandemic is under control. They're having to rely on other people who are like the dumbest motherfuckers alive to act right so that eventually the people who are acting right can go out and enjoy. Life is super frustrating. Like there was a we went to. They opened up the beaches in California for exercise. Which I think is very fair considering what we know about the way that the disease spreads enclosed indoor spaces with people with uncovered. Mel's okay cool. So they opened up outdoor spaces for people to be active as long as they cover their house. I think that is. I hate wearing a mask but I do it and I think that's fair so we go to the beach to go on a walk. And they're people just out in big groups sunbathing like we're never going to or never going to get through this because people are just not going to be able to follow the rules and I can't make a plan to like go visit my family until like I have some idea that it's going to be like somewhat safe and my family is in Wisconsin so like I don't know they're all like knuckleheads there. It's it's very very frustrating. Have either of you. Tried to make travel plans to visit anybody or to go anywhere. I had weddings. Yeah I had weddings canceled. I was supposed to be in London and the summer to family. Weddings also cancelled and You know and not rescheduled. And then I'm just going to go to India and also no and then as I said per my email. I was going to go to Tahiti because it just sounds great. Why not but. That's really just a pipe dream. Have you heard about people who've gotten stranded in beautiful places like they left right as the pandemic was started? Because we gotTA GET OUTTA here. We've gotTA GET OUTTA here. Are we going to be stuck in America? And then I there's this New York Times article that was like really shut and Freud a delicious because there was like some people were like we gotta go to Nicaragua. It's going to be beautiful. And then they go down there and it's like no you're not on vacation you live here now. Now you live in now you live in Nicaragua. You can't leave you welcome. Yeah you live here now figure out how to eat like there's a laughing so it is kind of funny though like if it were something that had happened to someone. I know and they were telling me the story. I would be like you dumb ass. That's hilarious well. Because those people thought they were going to like what game a pandemic. You thought you're going to be able to go like I know someone challenge through instagram. Who did this and she let me tell you in the beginning. She's like Alan g like the pictures were so walking obnoxious especially because it was still snowing up here we are on the beach Isolation now either a hot mess I mean. There's nothing left on the island. You know like they're talk about isolated. It's like the four of them in some like granted there at a hotel but the hotels like down for all NC purposes so anyway. I'm not going to say I enjoyed it but just going to say you can't get a panel. Yeah like there's nowhere to go. That's the thing that's so frustrating. Like that I think is so hard for people to grasp is like you. Can't you can't go anywhere. There's nowhere to escape it like there were people in New York City. Who are going to the Hamptons like? Oh yeah the disease won't get us here. It's like no it will it? Can you brought it? Yeah you're brought it yeah. My Dad was in England so he was in like he gone and then the pandemic happened and then he just didn't book his return flight. I do think there's isn't there a thing about like if you're a citizen or something you're allowed to repatriate back to your country. I think but then you have to require in quarantine for a period of sending another thing. That makes it so difficult as everywhere. The rules are different and they're always changing and like that's another bucks with plans is like yeah of course listening to public health officials. There's no way for them to possibly put a target date on anything and so of course this has to change as we learn more and stuff and but every country has different rules and in the US sometimes. Their rules are different from city to city. Like from like in Wisconsin for example like Milwaukee had a stay at home order. I think put back in place after the State Supreme Court decided. The governor didn't have a right to declare a state of emergency that lasted as long as it. Did it just like your dad here in was is he still in the UK? Yeah how long has he been months months mof? He can't come back at all. I mean I think that technically he could but I think he was just like. Oh you're I think it's one of those things where you're like. Well we're here and it's kind of the same everywhere Florida's reopening Florida's going into phase one on Monday. I think you know. But it's they are doing a phase like phased reopening and there are a lot of precautions being taken like if the school reopens a preschool. Reopens or whatever the thing is know. So yeah everyone's in a different everyone's literally actually in a in a different phase like everyone in my family's at different just depending on where you yeah. I saw that the I think an official in Los Angeles his wife went to Arizona so she could get a pedicure and yeah because Zona. There's like no no like rules around that compared to the rules here so she went to Arizona and like posted a bunch of pictures to facebook. It's nice to be normal again and it's like Oh my God what are you doing? And it's like please don't bring back whatever you call it. The Nail Salon or I hope you didn't bring something to nail saloon which is right may just as I mean maybe more likely because there's more cases thing you know what last weekend really and I guess there are just two kinds of people in the world but last weekend when so many of the college graduation happening I looked on twitter and University of Wisconsin. Class Ninety eight. Uw for their graduates. Who obviously couldn't graduate. They lit up Camp Randall and they did. They played the they had the band. Play the graduation song and they did this whole like sort of video and like it was very emotional and I was like you know what it's like. I'm doing my part because I had my graduation writing and so like other people next year or in a couple of months should have that chance. And if we don't all do our part you know I want to do my part because I want women who have babies to be able to have visitors in the hospital again someday like I guess I just think it's so fucking selfish for people who can't control their in Yeah I mean it is. I mean I pointed this out on twitter that it's funny that the people who are considered considerate tyranny for them not to be able to haircut the same people who think it's fine to like not like women have abortions or woman. Drive six hours to get you know. Wait two days to have an abortion is just like the moral inconsistency is really mind boggling but off of the college thing this week my group of friends from college our texts chain lit up because my Alma Mater Notre Dame is going to start classes on August tenth. That's the plan. Saw that person classes August tenth. There's going to be no fall break and the the term ends right before Thanksgiving and then everybody just gets to go home. I mean I think that that is a very wildly optimistic thing for them to do but on the other hand they have to make a plan like you know along all this uncertainty people like new entities like universities like people who are starting families people still have to make plans.
"katie hills" Discussed on Hysteria
"And we're back. We've reached the part of the show where there's three of US instead of two of us. I guess that's the distinctive thing right now. Elissa still is with me in New York in one square over for me on my screen and in the other square we have Kirin deal. Welcome back here and it feels like it's been way too long. I know it feels like it's been a whole sixty five to one hundred million days of quarantine you live alone and you look great. What's your secret that this was all I had to do for the whole day so I have nowhere else to be. Have nowhere else to do. This is the earliest. I've been up in weeks in weeks weeks. Normally sleep do like I wake up at like I like go to bed like four in the morning and my natural like I think my natural schedule around no other human beings this is. This is bad and I shouldn't out myself is like four in the morning and then I wake up at like noon so this is like to me this. This is like five in the morning. Nine four I was gonNA feel like you're catching an international flight to nowhere. Who Really feel like I'm in Beijing right now so yeah. I think I think that segues well into kind of what I wanted to talk about my plan for today. My plan plan the a couple of weeks ago? Accuse host of what a day and friend to all humanity tweeted about how her coping mechanism is to make plans. And I have never smashed the like button so fast in my life because the hardest one of the hardest things about being on lockdown or stay at home order with no end date set has been that coping mechanism has been taken away like the ability to make plans. Isn't there anymore and you know one thing and I don't. I don't want to harp on a wedding. 'cause we've already discussed this but you know we cancelled our wedding and we were thinking about rescheduling to twenty twenty one but before we made plans we started talking about it. And it's like twenty twenty one might not be okay either like we. Kim Can't make plans can't make plans to go on a vacation can't make plans to go. See Your Family Karen. Have you found that plans? Kind of evaporating has been something. That's impacted you. During this time I'm still hung up on the phrase quote. I don't want to harp on a wedding. Yeah I know it's I know you guys have talked about it but all you're allowed. You can harp a little on a wedding. There are other examples of plans that people can't follow through with like graduations people have had you know their entire lives looked forward to graduating from high school or college invited themselves class of two thousand twenty and then they don't get to celebrate it like. I participated in a zoom graduation. This weekend for a person who's a fan of the show. They they had me come and do like a commencement speech and it was really cute. But I'm but I'm sure it was like not what had been planned. You know what I mean and like. That's that's what I mean by. You know there's all kinds of people who are having like their plans and everything they imagine kind of falling off for them right now. Yes Shit on. I believe the phrases shit on. Yeah I would say when when Gavin grown a first name basis now me and the governor of California when Gavin like last week I had I had the end of I had quarantine being lifted on March fifteenth like in my calendar. May Fifteenth. That's right I don't know what time is Erin. Okay am I got the right? Thank you so much but when that happened. I I remember being like like I put that in my calendar I was like looking forward to it and I was like you know like trotting towards it so I feel like he personally betrayed me when he continued the lockdown order. Like like that Tuesday. I was like I was like. Oh what the fuck you know what I mean like an I felt that waste I think specifically because because that was something to look forward to you know like so even though he's re I actually felt like it was a framing issue. It's like if he he. He reopened the trails. He did some stuff. And he's going to be like lifting the lockdown slowly. The idea here. And if he'd been like okay like may fifteenth were opening the trails and then like Wolfe's in the other stuff slowly. I think I would have been like. Yeah but the fact that he felt like he took away. You know the the idea of Of Freedom for me Eliza. Have you had similar feelings around the governor of New York and plans and you feel that way about how do you? How do you feel about Gaddi? Feel about Andrew. We're GONNA we're to say you know it's like I have coastal NBA because you guys are further ahead than we will ever be here in New York and so when I hear you kavech about may fifteenth. I mean I think we're looking at like July fifteenth. This point like my can't tell you the rage and I can cite tweeted about it the other day but so New York is broken up into like seven different regions and I live in the capital region and the capital region in New York. The governor has set up seven metrics that each region has to meet before they can start reopening and the capital region has one metric left that set. We are so fucking close to being able to do drive by retailer. Whatever it means and I went to the store the other day and people were just like not wearing masks like not even just not merit wearing masks. The woman's like I dare you to stop me like I'm not wearing a mask. Only looking assholes you are. You're trying to take away by like phase real but anyway so I don't have any optimism about when I'm going to be able to do normal things so I have a very specific way of dealing and it's like an it is about plans like as I wrote books about how plans make me exist. Amac like this has been like a lot but so I've just made things much more bite size. You know like you were saying The other night my hubs and I were watching the trailer for the King of Staten Island. Which I think comes out June second and I put that in the calendar and sentiment fell. Invite him like we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA look forward to this. We'RE GOING TO WATCH IT ON JUNE SECONDS. Second and the like going to the grocery store basically. I just don't do anything random anymore. There's one grocery store. I love Hawthorn Farm Hawthorn farm store and we go on Saturdays. We get there by eleven because you have to. Socially distance in the line can be very long and I get to foods that were really looking forward to. I get their pizza dough. And it's like I know it sounds really lame but those are like the plans I make. It's like I'm going to go to the store that day. That means we're going to have pizza on Monday night. That's something to look forward to. And so those are my those are. Those are the kinds of plans that I make like. I said before you know. I think that my neighbor and I looked at the weather forecast on Saturday. And set up our social distancing for Wednesday so we had something to look forward to. And that is it's like it's like there's no spontaneity because it ruins your ability to something human so that's kind of where. I'm at every everyone I know. Sounds like they're living in a retirement community in Florida totally because there you guys even dressed like I'm running condo board. It's literally like I talked to a neighbor of mine and I was like and I was like so. What did you do this weekend? Oh we walked around the block. We took a dry like we saw mountain that we went to the store. We got some pizza outlook if you just if you put it in. Seinfeld's parents accent all of a sudden you're right there in Boca Raton Florida right here. And I'm the and I'm the same. I have done that. I strung out an entire an entire week on on the idea of eating a big meal of Indian food and it was just like my whole week was like strung out on like making very against so yes small things. Yeah I mean going back to the plans thing I think another thing kind of what Elizabeth.
Former Congresswoman Katie Hill Does a Postmortem on a Lost Congressional Seat
"When the news is bad? I know that it is tempting for me to tune out but I also know that sometimes examining bad news and figuring out how to learn from it is a good thing so with that semester. Monaco and I are starting this week. Show with the conversation with former California Representative Katie Hill. Katie resigned from her seat last October and in a special election last week a Republican one bomber. So where do we go from here? Let's ask Katie are welcome Katie Hill. Welcome back to hysteria. We're so happy to have you back. Glad to be back. Thank you first of all. How are you doing man That's like a loaded question. I feel like I'm you know I'm I'm okay. The results the election were pretty horrible. You know in a way it was of what we were expecting. But you obviously didn't ever want and at you know it's just like one thing on top another in life in in figuring a way to get up in Russia yourself off in new forward was I was again when I was a kid. Reverses a still own a horse and the biggest thing that you were taught was being you fall off you get back up and get right back on and that's just kind of against what length is so drilling down into that trauma? A little bit last week was was the special election in California's twenty fifth for everyone listening. What happens and were you surprised when you say what happened do you mean why did we lose or yeah yeah why Jillette. Why did why did why did she was. Yeah well I think the biggest chapter honestly is just people in a special election. Democrats don't show up and you've got the rented. Republican base. That was particularly riled up because of my scandal and excited the opportunity to take a seat back. I mean that was that was literally what they were plotting. They were trying to you. Know to find something they. They found something. They exploited it. They got me to resign and this officers their opportunity to take back. The seat they felt was stolen from them in the first place remember. It hadn't been held by a Republican ever in its current form and they really did not think that it's possible for someone like me. Let alone any Democrats there So I think that they really rallied around this opportunity and from what we know they actually did some very despite the fact that you hear them complain all the time about ballot harvesting. They had some very organized efforts around ballot sting and Them for figuring it out. Because like you know that's to me it's about helping people be a but the churches were really mobilized in getting people to providing drop off centers. And saying that they're gonNA mail to use of swing by the church in you know do it in your car or whatever and we just didn't have something like baton. I think you can also partly attributed to the fact that Democrats were pretty disenchanted by things right. Like you're GONNA be really really frustrated works so barred and felt like you were. Finally I heard over a felt like you were finally represented and have all go away. So quickly is is really disenchanting. Should okay so there was a special election in California's twenty fifth special action in Wisconsin. Seventh both know that these are anecdotal elections in every district is different but you can still kind of extrapolate things on a maybe on a larger scale from this like. Do you think that Democrats should see what happened in your former seat special election as a wakeup call I do. I think that it shows that you remember mine was one of the Houghton quote safest swing seats right. Hillary Clinton when by seven. I want by nine. This isn't one of the seats that should have at risk. So what it means is that you know. Depending on what things are looking like November especially depending on the energy that's coming from rate than district's length. The ones that we flicked that were that were ones that that trump won by sixteen points are really really wants. We need to watch out for so we should give up or stop paying attention to the house just because the Senate is looking like it's within reach or obviously presidency so that to me. The biggest of all first and foremost the second is that as we are adapting to this Nalen strategy. How we doing that right? Field is what has been our strongest most important. Get out the vote effort right and that's modified I don't take. You should give up on it all together. I think they're Balkans Altogether they have they have a different base of people who they can go soo and again reliably that will reliably answer their phones that they can you get to things like drop off ballots churches. But we're GONNA have to modify field programs to to frankly make sure people know how vote by mail. When they have many many of them have never done it before especially in these lower turnout areas of to begin with which are usually the most. Democrats held Katie. Beyond even just in. How do we re engage the Democrats that helped you win by nine points when now they're also facing the pandemic childcare challenges on employment and things that are just like so catastrophic question? I think I am hopeful that the loss actually was a wakeup call for a lot of people might have thought like while the seat will be fine. Now they're like okay. I have really have to bow part of I mean honestly. I think that the the district itself is democratic leaning enough now that if we get to turn out that you know is usually expected in November election. I think she will win. And we saw we saw it happened with the ossoff special in Lucy. Macbeth one in general. I think we're GONNA see that in this case but it still. You know it's something that can't be taken for granted in terms of the support that I had the volunteers mobilized rabbit. I think that's that's going to be the same thing right is how do you figure out ways of ways of getting involved? That may not mean. Move leaving your house And how do we get people excited about it? Especially when the Senate is in play in California and the The obviously dilatory votes are going to be there for Joe Biden. No matter what so. I think I think it has to be like maybe you know maybe the Gee let's get so excited about meeting the seat back because like that. That as it's more like Oh you fuckers. Hello and stand up and what's ours okay. You said the word motherfuckers. Let's expand on that a little bit because we we chatted briefly about this About this race and how it personal it was to you and how personal it was considering the person who ended up winning the seat. Can you talk a little bit about the people who helped promote Christy Smith opponent short so the first person the first slew of images that came out was through the publicly came out was through red? Sti His enemies are images of You. That were released without your consent without taking taken without your consent. Got It and the only person that could have done. That was my accent. Spin obvious denied it. And so it's a it. So that started at Red State. The person who published those who who was the investigative reporter has been a longtime Republican operatives in the region who writes I guess on side. Honestly don't really know what I know that writing as is not a full-time thing for her and she had worked for one of my previous owners. She worked for Steve Night in the past and the day after the day. After I resigned she endorsement ARSIA There were a number of other people who were involved and again. This is information as circling through like facebook groups and drew a the random people that are on the ground in. It's not it's not like a niffer court case starting to like that bitch so many of the people who were supporting my sem from the beginning. We're the ones that need new. Had the photos and some of that is actually on logs. There's still posted out there. A Joe Messina. And things like that so I think For me that that was the biggest thing right like it was misleading. That my favorite before all of this came
GOP wins special House elections in California and Wisconsin
"Republicans have reclaimed one house seat while successfully defending a second two special elections the other day one in California the other in Wisconsin Republican Mike Garcia a former navy combat pilot is claiming victory in the fight for the open U. S. house seat north of Los Angeles after his democratic rival Christy Smith congratulated him Wednesday afternoon the special election was to fill the vacated seat a first term Democrat Katie hill who resigned amid a house ethics program the sex scandal in Wisconsin Tom Tiffany a state senator endorsed by president trump easily won a special congressional election in a conservative Wisconsin district Tiffany replaces former Republican congressman Sean Duffy retired in September for family
Republican wins special congressional election in California
"It looks like Republicans win two special elections for house seats one in California's replace Katie hill she resigned Democrat Christy Smith looks to be losing Republican Mike Garcia Republican state legislator Tom Taft defeated democratic law school professor Trish is encore in Wisconsin's seventh congressional
California holds special election during pandemic to fill Katie Hill's seat
"Also a special election in California's twenty fifth congressional district to choose a successor to former congresswoman Katie hill that seat could return to the Republicans not seeing any results so far out of California the polls will close in eighteen minutes
"katie hills" Discussed on Hysteria
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"katie hills" Discussed on Hysteria
"I think you know I think that was our innocence. Innocence to think that Oh you know a woman a young woman who can be herself who's intelligent and represents community can go to Congress and be left alone. You're not part of that political infrastructure. We see with Warren. She's being raised she's being operated. They tried to do that to you. And we're and all it it it does it makes. It fortifies us and it makes us stronger. And it makes us less innocent and it makes us more clear on what to do. I hope so because it and that's the you know the book I'm working on next is in having. It's coming out August eighteenth because that's the hundredth anniversary of suffrage of ratification of the nineteenth. And it's a for me. It needs to be a call to action. What's what's happened with a historic number of women who are running for president so qualified so good And and now we're down to you. Know it's going to be men in their seventies straight and you know like we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA get behind whoever it is and and because we have to we have to but it's like suck you know like all of this wave of women and then and I do worry I do worry about like the what it's GonNa look like in the in the midterms and and the midterms after this Right Lincoln. Twenty we have redistricting. We've got a lot that we should be concerned about for a you know especially if we do win the White House which I hope we do you. You always see a correction back from that in the in the following midterm so what. I love hearing. Katie is your Focus still on the political system. You know I think that in a if I were in your position. I'm sure many people would just be like I'm done with politics. I have no faith in the system anymore. I don't want encourage anybody to run for elected office. It I it's a sham. The whole thing is you know like Michaela's referencing. It's it's not a it's not for me you know. I'm not part of the system. So how do you maintain that positively about the the political system that we have and democracy in general given what you've been through the only way that you change it is by taking it over right and the and the only way that that happens is by people showing up and continuing to do so and I knew still know that if I if I said that if I said fuck this and I'm out then like how many people what's what's the what's the butterfly effect of? How many other people that you know that get disenfranchised by that And I think that you know instead it can have the opposite impact. Where is galvanizing where it is like? You know we're we're we're over and over again. We see we save forward Movement for equality or for women in general. And then you have this backside and and I think for we saw it with trump. We thought we were. We were about to have the first woman. President in fucking trump happened. And then you see this like really big win for women in the in the midterms and then you see what happened to me. And you've got the the metoo movement moving forward and then you have you know major setbacks with with people who aren't convicted or people who don't have are aren't held accountable or come back into the into the light with like no real ever having even apologized and then. I think so. This is another one of those examples. Where like we? We don't have it where we think we do. And we have to just keep pushing for. We have to keep pushing forward and letting up for even a second is an acceptable. So the kind of enforced expectation of percents perfection. Women who are in the public is something that makes women maybe not want to enter public. Life it's something I would never run for Congress partly because I'm like no stuff too much stuff and it's like what is the antidote to that you know. I think that people who are like thoughtful and engaged should think about running for office. But what is the antidote to like? How do you get out there? Somebody who had the worst case scenario happened to them and say look. It might also happen to you but do it anyway. I do say that yeah and I and I say when women asked me about you know they're thinking about running ahead and I'm I'm flattered and honored that they do ask me especially because like if if it were me I would be like well. That's really terrible. I don't want to be taught. I don't WanNa be talked out of it because I would be kind of I. I would think that that would be the response but But I am like I can't. I can't promise you anything about how you're going to be treated. Because you should expect the worst. And and we need fighters we need people who are able and willing to stand up and take that and And know that you you're not gonNA come out of it unscarred and I think any women in politics would any woman in politics would tell you that. Probably most people in politics would say that. You're you know you're scarred in some capacity but my God I know it's worse for women and And I think that that's the that's part of why we need people to keep doing it. And I and I do think that that that that perceptions are changing with younger people And we saw that significantly with you know what happened with me versus even leading up to the election part of. I think why we had such a big turnout. And and a big margin of victory was because of young people who were who who had a chance to for somebody who was like them and You know so. I'm hopeful that as the electorate continues to kind of our generation and and the next generation continued to kind of get age into Voting and make it part of their DNA make it part of their ritual Then that will make it more possible for regular because we want regular people we want. People who have a history. Who Have you know who have made mistakes? Who have lived a life and we're not life virgins which is various. I haven't heard that you introduced me to that. Yeah trying to make fetch happen. I'm trying to regret the kitty. This last question made me think that. Maybe the antidote. Do you guys think that the antidote that we're moving towards is is potential candidates getting ahead of what they have in their past and just saying it all hey so snapchat. Two Thousand Sixteen bomb thing. He smoked pot exact. Tried to do that without getting into the frigging details of my sex life like you know do. Is that what we want? Is that the. I don't know that the antidote is like you need to. I do think that there needs to be some level of like people should have a degree of privacy. And we shouldn't. We shouldn't expect I mean I felt like I ran. Probably the most transparent and like honest and forthright campaign about who I am and especially with the Vice Documentary. And they fought us around with cameras totally unfiltered. It got me into trouble plenty of times but like I was very genuine about who I was and and then for so yeah I think you should get ahead of it and you don't hurt people. I mean I guess like one could argue with trump is very genuine. He you know he shows himself as an ad and he's an ass you know therefore but it's like but he's a hurtful angry awful vindictive ass who kills people and put children in cages. It's like you are living your personal life. You're not hurting anybody. Yeah and You know I know that there's a gray area where it starts to get into you know. Yeah an into work work related situations but but that aside I mean before you even ran like it's your personal life and you didn't hurt anybody and I think there's something that's so interesting that that has happened because of you. Which is you have moved a needle because it now it's normalized. You can't Undo Katie Hill. We can't not have we. We can't have nine had our first bisexual congresswoman that can't happen Who's WHO's also has negotiated? The properties of an open marriage like by that alone. You should be a lawmaker. And Yeah that's my marriage for anything but other than how to how to how to leave in a gory very good. But there you go I mean you got in and you got and And and I guess the next person is just going to be easier and and so thank you for being the first. Yeah well thanks. Pat Towards towards redemption. I think for people but primarily for women who have for whatever reason had parts of their private life exposed. I mean we saw. I think you know Monica. Lewinsky is an example of somebody who has just pushed through in it really incredible and and you know thought provoking and graceful way. She's actually wasn't who I've talked to very really after it happened. Because did she reach out to you she did. Yeah actually and I don't know how she got my contact Info but yes. She was one of the early ones to reach out. 'cause she'd been public. Shame date night. That's true I had. Yeah I had. Everyone had my contact info. Good good point Yes she she was. She was just great and And I think she's she's working on some great projects and And you know we all I think. We are shaped by our experiences especially the traumatic experiences. I know we are And for her now she's she's she's addressing head on the issue of public shaming and I. I think that that's really important something that we needed addressing yet. One thing. That's interesting about Monica Lewinsky. And this is very catty. Cometh I'm about to make but Maureen Dowd one holzer for calling her a slut for like a year right and now Monica Lewinsky is like clearly a better writer than Maureen. Dowd which I think is the very best revenge. Maureen Dowd is like party. And who's like the last one at your house? And you're like leave. Maureen Maureen Maureen. Wrote the the worst thing about me in the in in the aftermath of it. Hers was one of the ones that I was like this being written about by a woman in the New York Times is like like I had a big fuck you moment that I yeah I mean I think we all at this table agree. Fuck Maureen Dowd when I watched the CNN panel last night even talking about the election and it was you know a pretty diverse group right. Yang and Van van Johnson. Yeah And it was the one white woman on the panel. Who Loria border..
"katie hills" Discussed on Hysteria
"So why were they so fix it and I was it a crime of I mean I'm using crime with like air quotes even though it does feel crime. Eat Amelia Was it a crime of opportunity? Wait can I guess before you answer? Is it because you threaten the status quo? Is it because if they have women who can go out there and be audacious in their lives and run for office that all? The sudden thwarts the the equilibrium of the power which has always been towards the men. I mean I certainly think so. I think that that's a huge part of it. And that's one of the things that has made me so determined to stay out in front and in you know in as many ways that I can not because I because it's easier because I like it because honestly it pretty much sucks every time you go out in front and you you guys know this too but like you're a target and but I I do think one of the interesting things is that the I have nothing. There is no value in attacking me anymore. They don't have anything to gain by doing it but they do. Just incessantly anytime I appear. It's like they. They just can't stand the fact that I haven't gone away with what they've done they're like you need to be hiding in shame. And and I think that's something that is really indicative of the way that they WanNa tear down women and but you know the other thing in terms of why I think. They were so fixated on me and on. You know what had happened was that they saw it as an opportunity to to undermine the metoo kind of movement they saw it as an opportunity to You know to to fixate on something. That was sexualizing. Right like I was. I was only the second bisexual person who's ever been elected to Congress. And like this is you know it's a fetish is kind of thing you know misunderstood totaling and so You Know I. It's it's way catch your headlines than you can get in almost any other situation and There's like this weird creepy like fantasy kind of ask. Oh my God the discussing messages and and you give examples lots of calls about me and AOC having threesomes with people and it's like but like really disgusting graphic like ways that they leaving messages for my poor like young staff to listen to listen to it. It's just leaving messages on your office phone. That was actually you bring up a OC or them bring up AFC kind of made me want it. That kind of dumped into the next question like it seems like or the next. I guess point. It seems like a lot of there's a part of conservativism that can't quite understand their attraction to powerful an outspoken women. And I it's not even just sexual is just an attraction They can't reconcile it. In the only way for them to process it is is by making it obscene and deciding that it's something that so that way they get to experience these women's actually but also like wag their them. Yeah at the same time God I wish I wish phone call Ted Lake when you could just hit call caller. Id or whatever it would just through the whole pipeline. Just spray pepper spray. That'd be wonderful if somebody could invent that that'd be wonderful. Yeah certainly grimes is your phone. Number is on a list advocate like pepper spray. Yeah was it mostly men leaving messages or was it Yeah Yeah that's definitely they were. I mean don't get me wrong. There were some women but like not definitely not overwhelming majority. Were you ever afraid that somebody was going to hurt you. Oh Yeah I mean there were there were trucks that were you know like these big black trucks that were following my mom around me and stuff like that in the district There were I stayed kind of out of the public. Like I had They they arranged special security for me when I went to the airport for the first time to go back to You know to La from DC. And yet there was a while I mean. There were a lot of threats. Did you find support in Congress? Could you look to your. Could you look to Nancy? Could you look to to say you know help? What do I do? This is terrible. I'm being besieged I mean yes they were they were. They were there but there was also. I think it's just a very isolating experience. You have to make this decision on your own and you have to. I wasn't getting any pressure to resign from any of my colleagues. But you also you know that like they're only a certain number of people that can openly come to your defense and they did but there's there are a lot who Who might have seen it as more of a political risk especially again the ones in the tougher seats and And you know I didn't want to be. I didn't WANNA put anyone in danger of you know my. I couldn't stand that if like my whatever situation is in some way used against them in their reelection. And that's just you know that'll be another piece of guilt. That's kind of hanging over my head for ever as you begin a term for the first time in. Congress is there other guidelines for dealing with these kinds of? I mean everybody knows that Congress people are put in the spotlight and it would seem that in order to protect especially in a more vulnerable. Congress people who come from from minority representation whether it be female. Lgbtq community or minority communities that aren't as represented that there should be protections in place to just prepare you for what happens if something like this occurs. Not In exactly the same way of course but I. I don't know if there are protections in place and I think the no and I don't know what that is I don't know how you how you create that But I do think that this is a totally new situation reading. Republicans got down there just going to deny deny point say like Yep and you know the other part I think is that Or just say yeah you know I screwed up. I'm sorry I'M GONNA keep going. I I back from like there's just not the and I think that I I really do think and the early pulling that we were doing suggests that I had enough of a margin that I I probably could have stuck it out but I didn't you know to me that wasn't the right call and and I'm glad I did it. The only kind of concern I have though is like making sure it stays blue and and the question is like by helping Christy Smith like in my in my hurting her right and I don't know the answer to that so I was at that announcement at that house where you the event. Whoa had introduced the first time and was very emotional. Yeah I think everybody there was completely is just completely behind you and supported you and and I think when you introduce Christie. There's probably a moment of just like oh she now still have to get to know my new mommy and and and you know I and I remember you saying I would only step down if I knew that she was going to step in and And I think everybody's sort of leaned forward. Oh okay well if you endorse her. And then she you know she. She's spoke so eloquently. She's so strong she got a lot of you know and and experienced behind her and she was wonderful and I think she she charmed everybody in that room but there was such this layer of sadness so now and I think it was before your your brother had. Oh yeah had and so It it's it's just a confounding year that you've had but also I I. I just think that was such a strong move and I wondered. Do you ever think about Okay what would what would it look like if I did? And if I didn't and if Christie had said no in that moment oh gosh. Yeah if she said no that she wasn't gonNA run than I than I would have really had to rethink things. Because there wasn't there honestly was not anyone even remotely close to To what I thought she could do. Especially because we'd campaign together before right And it's GonNa be hard enough with somebody who you know. Fortunately a lot of the campaign operation that we had before was able to kind of roll into this and she hired a lot of the people who worked on my campaign tons and tons of the volunteers like they know what they're doing so that's a big help but it's also The the runoff is going to be in. May and the so. We have a democratic leaning district now. She survived last night. She did. Yeah and we. We knew she was going to make it to the top two but but it's democratic-leaning seat now or district now but in a in a weird special election kind of timeframe it turns into a Republican leaning district again like in our plus four. So it's like that's the part that I'm worried about. Is You know I think she'd win? She will win again in November. Almost certainly as far as I'm concerned I mean I guess you never know and the the way that the vote broke down last night was I didn't love it but But you know. I'm I'm worried about her. Potentially losing in the special and then kind of disruption that would cause and also you know just think it would be terrible for us to have fought so hard for this district to flip and have won by so much right like we didn't. It wasn't a question. It was in like the reelection was looking like it was going to be like a massive landslide right But it was now you now to to go backwards like that. The question that I have is what responsibility do I have for that? And so I don't know not your fault that you generated a lot of excitement. I mean I it is your fault that people really like it. It is but it's not your fault that I inspire inspire people. I mean you just you were being you. And that's what people found so inspiring an I think Kristie can can bring that to and I think if everybody I had never met you before I was knocking on doors for you and I think that it was the idea of this of this place turning blue and and bringing people out of their homes on election day and saying like can I help. Can I drive you? Can you know out of Los Angeles on election day for like a long drive up to outside and in the weeks before power canvassing being hosted a town hall for Katie as well and I was surprised at like half the audience was like l. a? Hollywood types it was a really. I not surprised because I just people really left. La to come to come support you. And I mean I guess the question that I have is because you do have this this this fan base. You know this community people really support. You hasn't been difficult to talk to the supporters. Obviously the detractors. Have you know dealing with them as their own? I mean five them if fuck them exactly but but for the supporters what would you what do you say? Now that you're you're shifting gears. Yeah I mean that's that has been the hardest part right is that there are a lot of people who who I think have like you sent as a sadness right or people who felt like they did so much and they were really truly behind it and to see it go away to the kind of crumble is it. You know there's a there's something that you left. There's a part of you that you left with this campaign or elevated you buy so much people are like people said you know. I never cared about politics. And then I got involved in your race and I felt like I felt seen I felt like represented truly represented and now like that's shattered and And I don't I you know what I what is the hardest is to be able to say like listen. You know we have to see it shows that we have to keep fighting that much more. Yeah I was GONNA say if it's any consolation I think what is left in. Its place is a iron cauldron bubbling full of anger and action and in in that place and.
"katie hills" Discussed on Hysteria
"How do you keep going when it seems like several worst case scenarios happen in your life all at once why is it so hard for lawmakers to keep up with all the ways that people can use the Internet to exploit people and finally just? How big is the West Coast underground knitting community? All this and more on a brand new.
If you have these personality traits, you could be at higher risk of going broke in retirement
"And new research says if you have certain personality traits you could be more likely to run out of money in retirement that had the strongest impact on how about if you withdraw your retirement savings one of them is a conscientious sense that people who are organized thorough and hard working and the other one with people who feel very confident about our finances they feel like control over their financial situation Katie hill at marketwatch goes in depth on research about the personalities with a higher risk of blowing through the retirement
Matt Gaetz calls out Democrats for not defending Katie Hill
"I I thought this was kind of interesting you just an interesting take on the situation that happened with representative Katie hill who we've all heard a lot about nationally over the last week or so Katie hill on Thursday resigned from Congress it was her last day and she gave a farewell speech where she said that there's a double standard and that if she were a man she would not be forced to resign from Congress now I take issue with that statement I take issue with a lot of Katie hill statements because she's not necessarily resigning over her situation she's resigning because she broke a rule and no one really even called her to resign accept her constituents and that's really how it should be if you're not familiar with Katie hill story she's the congresswoman who is involved in that the rubble which is the three person couple she had a husband your girlfriend they were in a relationship for a couple of years and as you may have a case of revenge porn because just a couple of weeks ago photographs of her with this woman were released and she was naked in some of them she was in there is some pretty steamy insulation situations in one she was naked holding a bong and showing attached to that looks very similar to the Iron Cross but what's really at the crux of her of her resignation is not necessarily those naked pictures it's actually the fact that she broken ethics law in Congress which was just voted on by her actually last year saying that Congress people could not date their staffers they cannot pay their staffers and have romantic relationships with them the one defender of Katie Helen this is where the conversation I think against the one defender of Katie hill came from a surprising place it came from representative Matt gates who is a staunch Republican he was one of those people who stormed to Adam Schiff skiff he's from Florida he's all over cable news he has no love for the democratic it a jet the Democrats agenda clearly but he made the point because he's a young person that this is kind of the new normal that there are this is going to be an ongoing problem with millennials as they enter office that many of them who grew up with cell phones have naked pictures and did they might come back to haunt you and that they shouldn't be something that knocks the person out of contention for an office and I thought it was kind of interesting because Doug you and I did not grow up with the cell phone in our hands my first one was a brick phone when I was like six no one would ever no one will ever find anywhere a naked picture of me no matter of all contrary just get you should buy dossier on yeah yeah but I guess for the ladies is this the is this kind of the new normal I just think it's it was an unlikely place where she found support with this Republican who's probably stance against everything the KDL believes but yet he came out and was the loudest over any Democrat anybody else in Congress defending her saying that this shouldn't be a problem moving forward because that this is really the new normal for it for young people I agree actually so I don't really see the naked picture as the problem they can either I'm with you on that I that you broke the rules yeah I personally think it's but I know a lot of people taking naked pictures and I'm not really sure why they still do with the amount of people who have had those pictures were no naked pictures you anywhere right not that I know of unless someone's you know call me while I'm sleeping or something which is you keep your face out of yeah that's but that and number one for a lot of millennials going yeah your face out of it yeah but the other naked pictures and the thing on it well how old is the guy who was defending her Matt gates of me see he's he looks like he's in his thirties he's a young I'm use okay Republic so okay so that does make sense then but that he understands culturally that this is something that you know he's thirty seven okay so the times they are A. Changin get with it are you yeah get that or get out maybe is yeah I do think that that did no one's naked picture should end of their career or and they're a you know and look how we've all seen Jennifer Lawrence and Scarlett Johannson and all those pictures that were leaked a dog probably hear anything I heard there now it's really and it was embarrassing but it didn't careers yeah it shouldn't it shouldn't end your career if you're not doing anything wrong as a politician and you have a naked picture from a former relationship to wants revenge that should not in your career but she also broke the ethics rule though like you said Jan the real problem is that she was hooking up with someone on your payroll yeah and she a couple of my legislate one it was this woman who is a campaign staff and the other was for legislative director and so I think issues and leading people when she says this is a double standard they're only going after me because I'm bisexual or woman I don't think that's driving her one person actually calling her to resign because of the pictures I actually haven't heard of one person actually calling on her to resign except for one Republican woman running against her in our district and that's for obvious reasons is the only place I've heard it since but I guess you think maybe because there's more to it I think she knows that she got caught I think she knows that she probably broke that rule and so as she's getting out before it gets messy and before it goes through that route to me this is the reason I don't like the whole situation is because it is messy it's just there were so many different things that came out and like when it comes to naked pictures it's really frustrating to me but it seems like the person who is that the pictures come out about is the one who always gets all of the flak for it and not the person who actually release them a person's gonna get trouble though yeah you're right I also think California so whether it has been or the girlfriend whoever did it they'll probably be some ramifications I thought it was just kind of interesting that the unlikely source defending her was this Republican guy managed to get so much I mean it trust me he is so loud he's on every cable news shows on C. N. and he's on fox he's really a defender of the president he did but he came out he said this is an issue where a lot of millennials I think sympathize with Katie hell because a lot of young people who grew up with the smartphone in their hands took pictures sent them shared messages and materials that are now recoverable later in life well that's because he's also done yeah know for sure that's what I was gonna okay never but he is a lot of this is about that's what that tells me is that it yeah he also said that she is that she should be angry at her a fellow Democrats for not standing up and defending her and I would say that's probably right she was seen as a young and rising star in the party and everybody just sort of went well hands off because of the cancel culture that we talked about so
Ex-Trump aide George Papadopoulos, who played a key role in Russia probe, to run for Katie Hill’s House seat
"Former trump administration insider who played a key role in the Russia probe is ready to run for the house seat just vacated by California's Katie hill the potential candidate is George Papadopoulos who made headlines were trying to set up a meeting between candidate Donald Trump and Russia's Vladimir Putin to get dirt on Hillary Clinton during the twenty sixteen campaign Papadopoulos eventually pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and cooperated with
"katie hills" Discussed on Vox's The Weeds
"On the web without it protect yourself in your data use a special link express VPN dot com slash weeds now arm yourself with an extra three months express VPN for free support the show and protect yourself that's expressed VPN dot com slash W. E. D. S. for an extra three months for free I've started to see a little bit left Labor critique of the kind of reflexive kind of LGBT Rights Defensive Katie Hill which has been that like that you know what what Matt said earlier if you're on the side of the subordinate and you worry about workplace dynamics being used for sexual harassment like that holds regardless of g and you need to assume you know if you're going to have the principle that you that the subordinate is to be protected from any kind of like sexual come on and then you then that has to be consistent and so I do think that like the extent to which we're talking about this as a consensual relationship has to be shaded by that other factor here and this is where it gets really really hard to you know what is legit what is Innuendo what is south that maybe would have come up in a house ethics investigation but we're not going to have that is like there are these allegations that the campaign staffer was abused in the relationship and there are text messages presumably to hills ex husband that have been leaked have said you know I was in it was a dark time but I stayed and I blame myself for that not a great doc and something that definitely does play into the idea that the power dynamic in the workplace was effectiveness in a coercive way but it's also it's really hard me to extricate that from the idea that regardless of what hill was in her work place it is also possible that she was in an abusive marriage and that if that shades into the workplace I'm not sure that it's easy to say that he'll was the person with power here yes I mean look I think there's a there's a sense in which that's true and also if you hear any stories about congressional campaign ends it's not unusual for the candidate's spouse to be both a crucial actor in the campaign and also not have a formal role there are you know whatsoever I think fundamentally right you have a candidate she's running for office you got people who are like they they'd look up to her they on work for her they want to help her win right and not just like they have to believe that she is a good and worthwhile person in order to put in the insane hours campaign workouts yeah and it's it's a devotion it's a cause and calling and I think it is like an it's not new to the world but it is an abuse of the kind of trust that people put in the candidates that they that they work for whether that's hill doing it whether it this is an abusive husband who's manipulating all the relevant players there's you know it's like it's still it's still bad but I I think we should we should talk about the husband and we should talk about the topic of quote unquote enj- porn this was actually a new term to me really man I think Jane and I are both veterans of several waves of state laws attempting to criminalize this followed by hot legal takes that a lot of behavior that state legislatures tried to criminalise it's already illegal so I have used Google and I've seen that this it has been kicking around state law for a while the basic idea of revenge porn is that people in relationships have naked pictures each other and then after they break up you can maliciously leaked them like is that the yes that is that is generally I mean or not necessarily relationships this this often you know this is kind of a close cousin to a what is if you believe the media and I don't have regular contact with high school so how would I know otherwise a very common form of online's overbilling of high school students is like a you know you will ask someone who you believed to be interested in you to send you intimate pictures and then you'll like share them around the right kind of the revenge porn as it's become sort of in the criminal well the context in which it's the the thought of when states are passing laws criminalizing it isn't that kind of fifteen year old boy sends picture fourteen year old girl all his friends it's it's you know sites that on which like ex lovers who feel wronged can post all of these photos of their eyes with identifying information and there are habituate as of these sites who appear to be very dedicated to then tracking people down in other contexts and you know those photos follow them that is a much more clearly malicious aspect however the kind of balance in criminal law between if you don't write a criminal statute that treats that differently from the sending a few texts around your friends and you kind of set the criminal penalty at such a level that it's not officiously too strict for the lesser offense it's obviously not strict enough for the greeter fence and vice versa and so we've kind of hit a point where like in Keller -fornia for example yes nonconsensual sharing of intimate photos is a it's a misdemeanor but it's only a misdemeanor and so there are agreements from kind of anti sexual harassment advocates that it is not strict enough while at the same time you keep seeing these stories of people getting convicted of like sex trafficking or whatever for doing things that are obviously less malicious in nature Katie Hill it is a representative in California and in California in two thousand eighteen a former lost didn't want a six point four or five million dollar judgment against an ex boyfriend who did this he sent links of her to her mother he posted them on Tumbler Oak the bid and a bunch of other websites and also distributed the plaintiffs home address around and this is something that I found a couple of examples in which there were mm sites in which people were sharing photographs of their ex girlfriends with the explicit purpose of embarrassing them and you know that were leading into people you face a real danger and one of the biggest challenges for women it's generally women who deal with this men have had to deal with this also is that the police had no idea what to do with it there is a New York Times piece from earlier this year from a woman who was among the first to file a lawsuit for this and when she filed a police report the deputy involved closed the case and asked her out of cancer you this is something I think that this is another example where what taking place and we're the law specifically law enforcement are on our way far apart and so you representative Jackie Speier who's been a real leader on sexual harassment in Congress she was one of the people who is filing you who is working on legislation with Republicans also last year to deal with the issue of harassment on in on the hill especially of interns and pages also but she introduced a federal bill that would criminalise preventable but again it does get into but forty-five-year-old sharing photos to millions of people in order to embarrass and potentially you know physically harm an ex or someone perceive as Nex- you could go to prison like it's a really challenging needle to thread so to speak I mean I think there's also especially for people who may have been committed relationships since before easy taking like Kai quality photos on your phone became a thing like there is something of a generational split here where like Sending intimate photos is just like a an accepted practice among people who are among many younger people in a way out of many older people that just like I do not have pulling data on this is a generational split that I'm straight up going to assert maybe if someone has like actual data that can prove me wrong that's great but I think a lot of these things that come into the public I when there's a scandal involving politician there's often a kind of recalibration blake how much should we be expecting any given innocent person who hadn't done anything wrong to have evidence like this right like is there an extent to which you just should the allowing people to take naked photos of you because they could be used against you isn't that just common sense and you know there's definitely an instinct against the Kim blaming but at the same time it kind of really is hard to say league not it's not very easy to know quite yet accepted practices are like are we in a place where given existing kind of cloud storage and sharing of files and that kind of I think it would be easy to make sure that the that each party in a relationship has control over that there are definite questions here in terms of just how Oh people using share intimate photos that make it so that it's really hard to say does every member of Congress who is forty five or younger of something that could be used against them or is this really something that is specific to like the weirdness that already exists in this relationship which brings us back to the question of is she being pathologist because of sexual orientation and the you know relationship practices that she and her husband were engaged in two thousand eighteen I also I wanted just be very clear. here that I think one of the things is like quote unquote revenge born it's not just like sending photos to someone and then they share them with others like that a lot of times there's in writing a lot of people have started putting little things over their computer cameras because there have been examples of people using those computer cameras or taking them over from other computer the other computer networks to take pictures right I don't mind like the you know we have a god given right to take self is of ourselves to make sure we look cute and I just being able to do that and especially having control of your own images on your own phone or on your own cloud I think that that's up that you I I have in a little bit of like you could only be taking naked pictures of yourself if you're meaning to do something sketchy them like I you know if you're in the come on like it's not a wildly libertarian perspective to say you can take pictures of yourself or in the context of a relationship or not a relationship and not expect that those voters will be used against you in some sort of public forum but I think we should draw distinction right because Jane mentioned that there's a lot of like mischief can be done now that there are simply more recording devices in the world but also I think there's always been a firm like social consensus right that like hiding an illicit camera in a hotel room taking pictures of somebody unawares and then distributing them that like that is wrong just prosecutions on this stuff have been on like computer fraud and Lake in anti-hacking laws both because those are where strict criminal penalties are also because oh come is is like for people to not hijack other people's cameras do not conceal recording devices to not have security personnel at hotels misappropriated being at those resources I mean it's difficult in practice but like those are issues that are fairly clear cut right the harder question right is in a world where everybody is carrying cameras around in their pockets all the time and so people take a lot of photos of all kinds of things and we're just become free essentially to distribute photos is that there's a clash between there's like a common sense view that like you have moral ownership rights over images of yourself and there's like the practical and legal reality that is actually the person who takes the picture who has legal it's over it and in a digital age just whoever happens to have a copy of the picture has practical control over it right and that's the I'm Friday.
"katie hills" Discussed on Vox's The Weeds
"We did we did hung up wow this is going to be a great podcast we did hung up hello welcome to another episode of the weeds if Katie Hill sort of the the other scandal that is being partington and this is this is not the most characteristic move the weeds as ever pulled let's up pivot away from serious issues of of National Security Law and congressional procedure to talk about what could be described as a sex scandal but it has say more broad relevance this trump Ukraine thing I think we'll probably not recur whereas we're hills situation raises a lot of questions that I think are dealt with all the time and we'll be on a continuing basis so for those who who don't know this story Kenny Hill is young first year member of Congress she beat a Republican in two thousand eighteen and this is one of the is like California suburban seeds that had swung kind of hard for Mitt Romney to Hillary Clinton the Republican incumbent got reelected in twenty six and then she beat him she's I think thirty thirty three years old song like that one of the youngest members of Congress you know was like a an interesting rising star in that sentence had been not just a rising star are in the point in the sense that like a lot of freshmen members of Congress have gotten a lot of media attention because they're kind of a younger generation and various things but like house leadership had actually like appointed her to a position the caucus kind of rising gas is one of the the official freshman delegates I'm not not a media star in the sense of the squad people but the the next generation of like mainstream Democrats and then it all started to unravel as red state began publishing stories that she had had an affair with a staffer that she and her husband had a threesome with the staffer it's more complicated than that because they were apparently engaged in a poly-amorous relationship that the husband was aware of the like as far as we know and it it's complicated because there are a lot of pieces to the story and there have been kind of the way that conservatives have interpreted it was like this is a clear cut case of someone misusing their power over a subordinate or perhaps to subordinates and then from people liberal perspectives is yes that was bad but also the publication of photographs of her that were clearly weaponized to be the most embarrassing thing especially in a political context you know the most embarrassing photographs possible and the fact that there were allegedly at least seven hundred photos given to g cooperatives in California the fact that a lot of the photos now I it's important because I keep getting this confused when trying to track the story is that there is a campaign staffer with whom Hale was apparently in engaged in a relationship also with her husband who he has acknowledged and said like it was inappropriate but yes you know I take responsibility for it right then there is hills male legislative director Graham Kelly who who is who red state reported on October eighteenth and the you know the story went fr to red state Breitbart a California based conservative website and the Daily Mail and when it goes Daily Mail that's one everything got pretty blown up but he'll has denied having a relationship with the legend slate of director and interestingly to me is that all of the photographs and everything about this was all focused on the female campaign staffer with whom the relationship would be a very bad idea but would not technically break house rules apparently she went on to work on with her in office which would also be a bad idea but a lot of the seemed to be weaponising one hill hill is Bisexual will she's talked a lot about that and it seemed to be weaponising that which is actually something that representative Matt Gaetz picked up on WHO's actually been one of the most outspoken advocates for Hill and saying that this is all happening because of an acrimonious divorce from hills husband and because Katie Hill is different because she's queer but there a lot of different moving parts of the story Dr. heard you take an intake I mean there is a lake the question of the how the kind of house ethics rules as a v very very relevant one here and it's not my understanding is that it's not quite as clear cut as as long as it's just a campaign for she's in the clear lake was not explicitly against House ethics rules for member of Congress to have a relationship with a sexual relationship with a staffer until last year he's that that definitely is explicitly beyond the Pale however the house ethics committee has also kind of established that it does have jurists fiction over potential ethics violations in successful congressional campaigns so whether this particular thing would rise to the level of you're going to be sanctioned because of behavior that happened before you arrived in the house is kind of Indus specific case not super clear but it's not it's not as clear cut as she's admitted to the thing that couldn't get her kicked out or couldn't get her sanctioned and you know there there we also don't know what the House ethics investigation found because it was obviously like still ongoing at the time resigned now it's going to shut down because she resigned it's mood it is I think interesting that there is kind of split between their relationship we have pictures for in the relationship we don't write the alleged relationship their relationship he's admitting to in the relationship she's denying or the alleged relationship she's denying rather and lake the fact that the photos are in the context of an explicit photo of two women in what might have been a situation where they were taken by van and whereas the clearcut ethics violation if it existed would be a heterosexual relationship and I'd also want to add in that and we'll we'll talk more about the revenge porn angled though I really hate that term because it's I mean the term we use because I think that the you know the listener all kind of know what we're talking about but I don't like it and I if people have other suggestions I want to hear about them there are attorneys for former representative hill who are now getting involved offshoot a legal team of Marc Elias Rachel Jacobs from the firm Perkins Coy who you may have heard of and they they sent a season desist to the daily mail they've sent letters to other publications especially because the Daily Mail implied that she had a Nazi Tattoo based on some of the photographs because again this is the daily mail this is kind of what the I do so I think that there are a lot of different moving pieces to this story my first reaction when I saw the when when when these allegations came up was is to just purely take kills side of it and you know almost in a spirit of like like you go girl like you know that this stuff has been going on on for for a long time and and sort of who who cares and you know I talked to some people and they sort of talked me out of that position it's in fact like bad to be doing this Members of Congress should not be having relationships with their staffers it's a very vulnerable position shen the unusual gender dynamic here is interesting as subplot but doesn't fundamentally change the issue and that you know I mean a a reaction that I've seen from a lot of people on twitter is like a Ha- like this is a double standard a woman is being punished for something we know male members Congress have done a lot over the years which is absolutely true but I do think it's relevant that the house like literally adopted new rules about this last year right and the time those rules were being adopted I think most people thought that was a good change there was a collective statement on the part of the House of Representatives that a form of viewer that was known had been going on and that had like was bad and should stop and when you change the rules like there there has to be a first case of enforcing the new rules and like yes it sucks to be the person who is subjected to the new harsher rules when other people have gotten away with it but like that's that's what changing the rules means and you know on that level like that that is good to see it establishes precedent that so hopefully we'll be of some use in the future that said like the aspect of this that has to do the photos and stuff is terrible but also I don't it does seem like a bit of a red herring like misconduct here is real genuinely not sure that that's I mean I think that in order to know that for sure we would have to run the counterfactual where the photos don't come out and see if she's still ends up resigning and if not we're at the ethics investigation sets I think it's relevant that she doesn't resigned when the investigation gets open she resigns after the photos come out and like that's relevant both because she was not taking you know just like putting your head down and going home. She resigned signed with a very clear statement that what had happened to her in terms of the photos being publicized was a miscarriage of justice and she said that she's going to due to work on this issue like quote unquote revenge porn nonconsensual intimate photo sharing which is really unfortunate acronym now that I think about it so you can kind have you know it did give her if not like not not an out but certainly a way to resign without looking like she was accepting that she had done things raw. I'm not sure that you that she would have resigned. The photos hadn't leaked just because I've seen enough cases where having visual evidence gives the story legs and gives people like you know makes it no longer a he said she said kind of thing makes people feel that there is in fact quote unquote proof that one party is in the right and the other party is in the wrong and that's where I get a little bit into like it's not that I think it's it's obvious that there are male members of Congress who have done identical things and haven't been punished under these new rules I do however think it's interesting that the first time that this comes up in such a way that house ethics has to engage is in the context of an acrimonious divorce with a partner who hill says was abusive and like we don't have a lot of details on that that's not to say that she's obligated to provide them certainly the fact that they're it seems very very plausible and more likely than not that heels husband was involved in the leaking of the photos is list of evidence that he may not have her best interest at heart right now to say the least and I do wonder if that part of the story plays out the exact same way if it's a mailman of congress I think that there is an opportunity to play into ideas of women and specifically bisexual women in positions of power being you know being sexually manipulative and sexually promiscuous that made it obvious that photos like this hurt Katie Hill in a way that maybe they wouldn't have heard a male member well and especially again that the photos are of the female partner the alleged male partner and if.
Rep. Katie Hill resigns amid claims she was involved in romantic 'throuple' with staffer
"This resignation of congresswoman Katie hill I would have thought it was a slam dunk okay you in such mission guy few relationship first the she was an open bisexual okay no problem young congresswoman California rising democratic star the same ages like AOC in the squad thirty one thirty but she had a relationship there was her husband and there was a female staff member right and apparently they had no problem exploiting that taking pictures of it sort of the threesome that they were in trouble from point never heard that I hadn't either but it's a thing seems like California has a growing wave of this it's all over the country because it's not just California all right and what exactly is a fraud pulled into the I. more knowledgeable I'm just reading about it I guess it's just a when a couple brings a third person into the relationship not just for a one night stand three some but for actual the it's it's your relationship you have relationships with them I mean and it sounds as though she it Katie still have the relationship with the staffer well the husband I I don't know I wasn't in there but that's what I'm that's what I'm understanding get all three of them a swapping spit from that I mean I guess so but so she has admitted that that that that is true there's another accusation against her that she had another improper relationship with one of her congressional staffers she is denying that she's that didn't happen she said all of these pictures that have been leaked on the internet have been leaked find her now estranged husband who she says is abusing her and is basically trying to ruin her life and so she decided she was going to resign I mean that what there's a couple things going on here number one is she being fought shamed I mean that's all over the place because people seem to be less interested in the aspect of her having inappropriate relationships with people that are server under her then they are interested in pictures that are being put out there by her allegedly ex husband they clearly talk with one another that they shared with one another they clearly now or she's claiming a part of a right in line right wing conspiracy to destroy her well I don't know I mean I don't know how it's a right wing to what has been like I know but these things right but the the form that they came out was a right wing website so she's claiming this is all a Kabam my husband the right wing web site and sentiments of lady in fact let's listen to ad she talks about her resignation from the house last night I announce the most difficult decision of my life that I would be resigning from Congress I made this decision so that my supporters my family my staff and our community will no longer be subjected to the pain inflicted by my abusive husband and the brutality of hateful political operatives in women as she won what was to come on Republican district in that mid term election is some Democrats got into their house seats as a result of that then she spoke of the abuse of this this coordinated campaign carried out by the right wing media and Republican opponents enabling and perpetuating my husband's abuse by providing him a platform is disgusting and unforgivable and they will be held accountable well I would imagine that it wouldn't just be right wing platforms I mean anybody that would get this information will probably have a have a have put it out there well but then again she looking for some sympathy and empathy and she says this is a case of revenge porn she's a victim of this some people call this electronic assault digital exploitation others call it revenge porn as the victim of it I call it one of the worst things that we can do to our sisters and our daughters I am grateful for all of you who have spoken out about this in recent days as I have before I will stand up for those who cannot stand up for themselves because there is one thing that I know for sure I will allow my experience to scare off other young women or girls from running for office for the sake of all of us we cannot let that happen she's trying to control the narrative and she's trying to control the narrative in a way that makes her look like a hero and a victim who is now going to go after people who put out revenge porn on their exes but the fact is that she had an inappropriate relationship with either one or two staffers of hers and this is accountability I don't she's being held accountable okay she gets it and neither does Camelia Harris com on her hello Larry former Attorney General California US Senate a California now running for the democratic nomination was whose lent her voice to supporting congresswoman Katie hill on this is sort of like with the death of John Conyers he had staff people on board for many years he was the dean of Congress then he had taken advantage up that once he had taken advantage of them he had them signing non disclosure agreements that pulls Bonham the speak where the house at the time the Republican the time being and before that pelo C. kept a slush fund to keep these mail congressman asa harm's way both Democrats and Republicans in that recently came all to light so why is it she thinks she's being you can't have it both ways you can't have it both ways if this was a man who is accused of having a relationship with a staffer he would be in trouble too you're not supposed to have relationships with people that serve under you whether they're your employee whether they're your skin rational staffer it's inappropriate and it creates a dangerous situations because it could be used for bed coercion you know you got you got an issue of power being held over somebody and if that somebody wants to keep their job they're gonna feel pressure to basically Chile to the person who is in power and what does it say about the old sure religious the Mormons or even the Muslims who believe you could have multiple wives live polygamists lifestyle our country said no especially in running for political office these are not formal marriage so for instance when we see these whether they call them again troubles they seem to be always two women and one man and it seems like the man can do whatever he wants he can go outside of the relationship have sex with a man or a woman and likewise a woman can go outside of their relationship and have sex with a man or woman but it's often times the woman who's bringing a woman into the relationship where all three live together although they're not formally getting married I don't think they can they can get married yeah well I married couple getting married again I'm figuring California would end up doing that well I know that there are there are stories I read the New York Post and I've seen some crazy stories about the sexual lives of new Yorkers a particularly here in Manhattan I you know I I don't I don't understand this world it says something well look what the what a couple dozen the privacy of their own bedroom is really not my I don't really care but again it's she's acting like she's so put upon but the fact is it was with a staffer if it was some person that was outside of the the the campaign okay whatever outside of our staff none of my business I don't care but it was it with a staffer her underlings therefore inappropriate she thought she was so right she should have just run for reelection twenty twenty the house see she would've been challenged in a primary by Democrats what they know about it then then guess what if she wins the nobody can ever sit there and say well guys you know what you can date you get go hadn't date your staffers it's no big deal yeah no problem at all there's no issue of
After Resigning from Congress, Katie Hill Vows to Combat 'Revenge Porn'
"California congresswoman Katie hill is vowing to fight revenge porn as she steps down hill is resigning amid a sex scandal she admitted to our relationship with a campaign staffer after nude photos of them surface but denies affair with Amanda
Facing House Ethics Investigation, California Rep. Katie Hill Resigns
"First term democratic California congresswoman Katie hill announcing the resignation of men at the expropriation of McCabe reports when she got elected in twenty eighteen she was hand picked for a coveted leadership seat on the house oversight committee now California congresswoman Katie hills out of a job she resigned when the house opened up an ethics probe looking into an inappropriate relationship with an eight in her congressional office that is prohibited under house rules hills also alleged to have had a sexual relationship with a campaign aide now new pictures of hill wound up in a London newspaper she's also in the process of divorcing her husband hill was elected by nine points last year capturing a district for her party for the first time since nineteen
Rep. Katie Hill resigns amid allegations of affairs with staff
"Touchdowns a democratic Congress woman has resigned A. P.'s about small reports Katie hill is facing allegations of inappropriate relationships with staffers first term house lawmakers resignation comes following the start of an ethics probe in revelations of an affair with the campaign staffer in a statement released yesterday the thirty two year old from the Los Angeles area is leaving Congress is best for her constituents community and country hills under investigation by congressional committee for an alleged intimate relationship with a male senior aide something she denies but she has acknowledged an affair with a young female staffer after compromising photos and purported text messages surfaced online last
Katie Hill: US congresswoman resigns amid affair allegations
"To kill a democratic congresswoman from the Los Angeles area resigned on Sunday in the first term representative it's been under investigation amid allegations of inappropriate relationships with staffers hills denied an improper relationship with a male staffer but admitted to an inappropriate relationship with a female staffer interstate and she blames her abusive husband and hateful political operatives A. B. C.'s Brian
Rep. Katie Hill resigns amid ethics probe
"Coming freshman congresswoman Katie hill is resigning amid a house ethics committee probe of an alleged inappropriate sexual relationship with a male congressional staffer the California Democrat tonight that relationship but last week she did admit to having an inappropriate relationship with a female campaign
Rep. Katie Hill admits to relationship with campaign staffer amid ethics probe
"The house ethics committee is launching an investigation of California Democrat congresswoman Katie hill boxes Shannon bream reports from Washington the California Democrat is alleged to have violated house rules by engaging in a sexual relationship with the staffer congresswoman hill is admitting to having an inappropriate relationship with a campaign staffer but denying allegations of another affair with her legislative director in a letter to constituents obtained by fox news hills that then in the final years of what she called an abusive marriage she began a relationship with the unnamed campaign
It's time for Trump's impeachment. Mueller's report gave us everything we need.
"Democrats came out of it saying Robert Muller categorically stated that Donald Trump wasn't exonerated there were some key moments in which she indicated that she would not have been able to charge a president the sitting president under department of justice policy but that president could be charged after he leaves office for Republicans they found more evidence that in there framing of it that the mall report didn't produce any damning evidence against the president and that this was sort of a last the last gasp hail Mary attempt by Democrats to sort of make political hay out of this one if you agree I mean we did hear him say I think that was a big moment it was not a witch hunt mostly Miller not only you know stuck to the four corners of the report but wouldn't even read from and write like it did anything surprise you nothing surprised me meaning going into it everyone figured that Robert Muller was gonna be a by the book kind of guy and sure enough he was very much by the four corners of the report as you said he didn't even want to speculate in many cases he didn't want to answer questions I think what was interesting was how he appeared visually I think Democrats would have liked to see a more robust presentation even have the facts but that really wasn't Mahler he was there to sort of be and I'm I'm willing witness and a lot of ways and so I do think it reinforced a lot of people's impressions of the report of the president and have the political import of it yeah I mean does this move the needle politically do either of you think no I don't think it moves the needle politically I think the interesting thing though is in some ways it may it may Nancy policies life easier because in fact you know the the pressure on her to proceed to impeachment proceedings right away I think has been lessons and to a certain degree I think that's probably for the best for the best thing for the Democratic Party for what she wants to do looking ahead to twenty twenty so I think in some ways it takes the pressure off of her so that might be a good outcome for her but in terms of a changing opinions in changing people's minds I doubt it right I mean this is a journey it's sort of confirms what people are do you think in their corners you know I do think that there there wasn't a sense immediately after that impeachment is off the table it's gone totally seem like that's the case now right we have seen a couple other representatives including Mike live in one of the eight who flipped a Republican seat in California come out saying there for it just on Friday house judiciary chair Jerry Nadler did file as promised papers in court saying we want more information about the report about the grand jury transcripts saying in his minutes on our consideration I guess you think there's any chance the Democrats are just kind of trying to slow walk this so it's closer to the election I mean I would agree that it so in the last few days seem to sort of vindicated Nancy Pelosi's cautious approach it doesn't seem like we're going to get any sort of real progress towards impeachment proceedings before the twenty twenty election but as you noted this is still very much an issue not just for house Democrats but for a lot of these frontline first term members including in California you mentioned like Levin in San Diego is now become I think the third California first term Democrat to back impeachment Katie hill in Los Angeles sort of that ninety five percent of the way there she said I believe the president committed a crime to want to wait and see if these subpoenas are honored before we pursue the strongest possible case but even as Nancy Pelosi's sort of effort to tamp down the urgent launch impeachment hearings now drive has sort of been borne out by those hearings it's clear that a lot of house Democrats are gonna keep pushing I mean is that the fact that you have these Democrats in these more purple districts who did just recently flip seeds does that tell you anything about how Democrats are thinking about this politically I mean I think that there is a narrative that for you know folks in more modern district as it gets a big rest but we're seeing everything California more of them want to at least keep it alive the discussion on in California may not be representative of some of the other districts that turned it in the rest of the country I think in California the sentiment at least in favor of moving toward impeachment may be much more favorable than you might find in other places so I think the question really is how does Nancy Pelosi I mean before I the big question was how to she arbitrate between the sides of her party the one side who wants to pursue impeachment elicited doesn't now the question is you know how does she sort of look going ahead to continue to satisfy people who want that well clearly not moving ahead with it right so she sort of said today we'll do it when we do it which basically means they won't and so the interesting question will be how to she satisfy those folks going forward who want to
Meet Lauren Underwood, the 32-year-old Democrat hoping to shake up politics
"Inskeep. When Representative Lauren Underwood welcomed us into her office. She was just finishing lunch at her desk. She's a new member of the house, and she's one reason Democrats won control last fall. She captured the fourteenth district of Illinois which had been reliably Republican. Her reward is a modest office space near the capital and a chance to share a Washington apartment. The roommate. Another house freshmen California's Katie hill, are you living this kind of insane sort of grown up college life of it is not even MAC glamorous. We are scheduled from like seven thirty AM to probably ten ten thirty pm both get home very late. Unlike do you remember that meeting that happened at ten AM wasn't that so crave? And she is like e Agra not that glamorous. Maybe but under what is among the young diverse house freshmen who've made a lot. Of this year's political news. She medicine the brief downtime between her Caesar salad and a press conference. She's thirty two born in nineteen Eighty-six, a former nurse. I am black. I know I'm black fourteenth. Now, I'm black, and I am a millennial no woman. And so do I have an interesting perspective on issues that impact? Those demographic groups directly sure, although Underwood says she can represent people who identify differently. She faces a different situation than her outspoken, fellow freshman, Alexandria, Cossio Cortes, who represents a safely democratic district in New York Underwood is more typical of the Democrats who flipped seats in two thousand eighteen she's from a mid western district of suburbs and farms with a minority of people of color. It's congressman was once Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert in two thousand sixteen the district voted for President Trump. The reason we visited Underwood. Was to hear how a democrat works to fit that district. I want to note that you're doing something that in American politics was really rare until recent years, and that is you are an American African American, and you're representing an overwhelmingly white district. We haven't seen that happen in the congress, and yet and this hundred sixteen congress, I'm not the only one end so representations important, and the idea that only certain folks can be representatives is one that I think that we have worked to completely redefine her district extends from Chicago suburbs to the Illinois prairie, and she says she is determined to support mostly white farmers as anybody else. Well, I think that there's a lot of issues that help communities of color that also helped our community. She campaigned by saying she would better stand up for the district's interests than the Republican incumbent when President Trump's trade war affected, Illinois farmers. She. Brought it up. She noticed the separation of migrant families at the border captured her district's attention. So she brought that up to in this district that the cook political report rated as an plus five and was a lean Republican until the weekend before the election. We won every county even the most rural. There are people who supported us who have never voted for a democrat before we have people who will never ever ever ever. Call of south the democrat people who voted for Donald Trump voted for you two hundred percent hundred percent. And this is about representation and values and for us that issue was so straight it with healthcare, and what happened and the spring seventeen around of Amakhir care repeal, and, you know, our prior representatives votes on the. American Healthcare Act. Do you think you're to the left of the average voter in your district when it comes to healthcare? You've said if I'm not mistaken, you might like Medicare for all if it could be done. But I bet the average Republican would not like that. I don't think. So I would challenge that statement because I believe that healthcare is a human, right? And based on conversations, and I had many of them might you throughout the year and a half that Iran that a lot of people believe that as well. Do you need to talk about healthcare in a particular way to avoid those kind of hot button phrases that set people on the words, we use matter, and I've cautioned a lot of my colleagues here about literally the words will be used to talk about issues that we care about. Right. Student loan debt is an issue that is not partisan. It is very clear, and it's impacting so many individuals families. Few start calling things free or for all we loosen people. We can talk about the solutions in a way that's inclusive. Right. So what have we talk about creating a modern financial aid system? Well, we have Pell grants that reflect the true cost of college. And we have subsidized student loans that fill that gap. Some people might call that free college for everybody or whatever. But the people that speak in these like, hashtag, e type phrases, do not always have lots of solutions underneath it. The hashtag is the polarizing thing it may draw some support to the idea, but it also drives people and I'm into solutions, and I am happy to speak in paragraph statements to talk about the solutions because guess what problems are not always straight it at one hundred forty characters and solutions are not always illustrated and hundred forty characters this lawmaker who carefully considers what to say chose to say very little about. Another lawmakers choice of words the day. We met Laura and Underwood was the day last week when the house voted to criticize. Antisemitism. The resolution answered remarks by Underwood's fellow freshman Ilhan Omar of Minnesota that issue divided Democrats and Underwood was determined not to give it anymore fuel. Did she go too far? I don't have a comment. You don't. I don't. You've been pretty Frank on every other issue Frank on this one. And why what do you mean? You mean, you you don't know what to think about it? Comment on it in the end, Lauren Underwood like other Democrats voted for the resolution condemning antisemitism and other forms of hate. But as she represents what is now swing district one expected