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Kathy, Bob & A Mouse House Full Of Dollars // #53

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Kathy, Bob & A Mouse House Full Of Dollars // #53

"This is a star wars sessions public service announcement just to let you spicy listeners. Know that this show is actually recorded hours. An amine the four the news drops the Aga stepped down as Disney. Ceo With Bob. Sha Pat Kosheh pack. Not sure how to pronounce that yet. Replacing him I in some time in twenty twenty one. So that's it just bad I mind. May the force be with you really Britain's greatest dowels podcast Robert. You're listening to storrow session with math Hudson and Luke bligh. This is where the fun begins. Good morning afternoon or evening. Got ACCE- welcome to stop sessions. Comforta- Star Wars. Stay for the sessions. While I'm Hudson Aka through and as for in a copy of the Essex Falcon is the greatest. I was man fan and buddy out there. He's a man we signs over the cheque around here and this one point is pope blogger. Oh you know boy I like it kind of star wars relied real world. Is this one of the first ones outside of the Star Wars Universe one and I live in Johnston about four months ago? Might that is filth. Well listen listen was fifty sorry. Fifty fifty fifty three shows in Bro. You're doing it. I know you're running dry dry. I can hear it in your voice. You like Oh my gosh. He likes this week. It's getting harder of desperate for this about a dyson. Hey Hey yes I am. Doing very well is flipping windy rainy here in England the United Kingdom however however. However let me tell you something might go about. Good vote about good food this weekend. A good company good even good somewhat spring cleaning but you know what I am as good as gourmet shooting. The Guy Lactate Kubota Bob. Breweries was useful. Thank you my. I appreciate How was your weekend? There's my family orientated. This weekend pay out in about Essex down down down and out and about in woking as well so this is actually caused a chill out and relax to shoot neglected Bruce but before that my roast dinner this weekend was sprinkler chicken. Oh Arafat it went all sprinkled on my Milton Arum Matt. Oh you're not boy. I I'm Richard Slot described as an all round season and all eight is neuron spas. I'm pretty sure castle spices. Yeah if if that's what I want everybody so desperate to get it on in the galaxy without being absolutely oppo me sponsor on ever invoked. Hang around that backstopping diaper aromatic. Yeah I'm now. The gang go is sponsored by them but if you ever needed decent season in a session approve seasoning in Arafat's yeah my get yourself go to the shop might get yourself some curly fries someone. I'm not not boy. Curly fries la the ones from skull. We're yet bang. Nimba boys in the oven environment over all my days dependent Shelley Mayer flight deck as it do you aromatic before after the Audu often. Because my maybe because I'm going to slide Lazio chevette on anything. Mrs Is better with him but anyway but anyway which we've in China Kessel spice we've been China Kessel spots. We thought you know Tommy is people is for all weekly recap of Wiscon- on in the Star Wars. Well what what has gone on my. I don't know you and I we none of us knows. Let's let's find out. Let's go to the news round owned episode one of decline more season seven titled. The bad batch premiered on February twenty first on Disney plus. Jj Dillard and Matt Owens are being lined up to direct. I New Star Wars movie according to deadline exit from an upcoming the rise of skywalker. Normalize Ation Sees Kylo Ren finding the article on Mustafar and by the time you're listening to this details of the mysterious project. Luminous will have been announced so guys blogger chopped in the pundits week is very relevant if you follow social media. You'll know what we're talking about. It'd be don't we'll keep those links later on what we wanted to speak about this week. We've been putting off and put it off for few weeks now but as we want. We want to discuss the financial report. A financial state. Oath the Disney Erase Star Wars films and do so a little bit about Kathleen Kennedy and Bob Orga. Now that the rules are scarred will craze sewing down massively in his box office we still be a good time to sit back and reflect and before we go on when I was out as we've seen distant dimension of Kathleen Kennedy and Boga Right. Certain people are which is fair enough. Everybody's on their opinion while I will say this isn't going to be a bashing. Fester them to all the sequel trilogy but the same concept is at is GonNa be a full on era. I'm hoping and I'm blazing as the sessions is gonNA be straight down. Only spots wanted to get out there for yes so it was Luke's me wanted to do this for now. 'cause he he works in my everyday so look people want to talk about money so they were take away. What's what's the school. Show me. Hang on data. I need it for this. Wake for this conversation lactic brew. However I'll tell you is is a bit boring or can't even lies say I'm not GonNa kiss you. Guys is is zero sugar. Cherry Coke Cola from pound from pound strange taste. None of the stuff I you know I just didn't Fancy Barrio. It's not it's crazy it's crazy. It's crazy but I wanted to be fully compass ntus north. Thank you in Coatdress Matt. Thank YOU MATT. I wanted to be fully commencement cutler. Come just setting no come on my coat and I shine half lean Kennedy Boga. Let's Start off by saying I have nothing but respect for Kathleen Kennedy. This is a woman that has been very heavily involved in Hollywood. I'm for four decades. She's helped define what pop coach is. Some of. The biggest Hollywood blockbusters in again in recent decades part of not maybe not best par last few decades. She has been a incredible and formidable force in film in Hollywood and that is to be respect respected. All I have nothing but the utmost respect for Kathleen Kennedy Bob I guy. He's grinded his way to C. E. O. Position Disney. You know. These are clever people from from from Straw. These are very clever and intelligent people. You can tell that you Intel from the why talk present stuff that there is intelligence I do. I think that is the best decision. Makers while no of course not every company has its problems has its ups and downs. So I think I'm just reiterate what might you boys just said the you know we are not bashing here but we're let let's look clinically at the state of Star Wars Right now from a financial perspective. Yeah this is and this is something that we rarely talk about. We have a new two in our shows. But we don't we. We've never sat down and spoken about this and I do think it needs to be spoken about now that we've done a sequel trilogy. We've GOT OUR FIRST SERIES OUT SO mighty boy. How about you kick us off with some figures. A kinda of literally got locker. Ho Scrolls worth figures here in terms of the Sequel Trilogy with the Force Awakens. I'll do this is on boring as possible but also because as we know two point zero six eight billion worldwide versus forty seven billion opening weekend the last Jedi three billion. That's what lost one point. Three three two billion worldwide against two hundred twenty million opening weekend worldwide was so that came in over worldwide. It came in seven hundred thirty five million dollars less than the force awakens in its final runs of seven hundred seventy million less it made of the box office. Let me get the Roger Scott Walker. That might one point. Zero seven billion dollars worldwide and. It's opening weekend. Was One hundred. Seventy seven million dollars so in terms of the to the Roscoe will may to sixty two million dollars less than the last Jedi all in and it might nine hundred and ninety eight million dollars less than the force awakens almost two billion dollars less than the Force Awakens Bart on that film finished so they are the open. We can numbers and by all the the total weekend. Box the total a white box with an asterix for the skywalker. Why Wo say was yesterday the twenty third or February took in one hundred thirty two thousand dollars domestically seventy three thousand in the UK so that number is not going to change drastically now from what is so still bringing in six figures but the very low end of six figures soon? It's going to start to Windows combat theaters so talk important for one second of that? The the force awakens was an anomaly to force awakens mental. How much money that made. It was always going to make big bucks and the last year. I always had a tough job on his on his times to get near. Before the way which was at the time at the time one of the big it was the third biggest film of Time. It was the big. Silliest is the biggest movie of all time for PHIL WITHOUT RE Release Number One course in film of Autom- domestically that year is Pittsburgh as well as domestic stikes year worldwide that year twenty fifteen is the biggest film of the year. It had the biggest. Can we can have the biggest third week in time. That may have changed now but at the time lost at worst had a lot of work in his it had a big three billion dollars. A DROP FROM THE FORCE AWAKENS THAT. I wasn't too concerned about simply because the force awakens might so much money base reward ability and the event which we've spoken about the frostiest will made two billion dollars almost half the money. The Fault of the Force Awakens did and a quarter of a billion. Lessen the for the last Jedi. While I'm looking at here is diminishing returns. The third film in a trilogy especially Star was waste as better especially was better with brings in more than the previous. What we're seeing here is less people to watch the films overall and for the opening weekend as well that's the sequel Trinity Films. That is three in the other two or she will get into so before we go abroad. Go into anymore Geek stats way. Think about that might so the decline in figgers. Clearly people go on to watch them and the opening weekend as well so this is meant to be the end of the skywalker cement to be a big deal. Yeah I think Diane back what you said. You know the force white is always GONNA be a big deal. People always gonNA come out and spoil. That fell now. Always GonNa come out and see that film because it was the first time in a decade we'd had star Wars Young People's stores was dead. I was it was. It was finished sequels as well exactly the first sequel and I think that was a big deal and to be honest I think people one in Seoul the force awakens and I loved it. I thought it was really fun. And Word of mouth photos are really remember closed. I everyone wants the force wagons. I don't know many people who didn't dislike especially poem first. Viewing that early time before. People will like remake of a new hope which arcade less. That's that's a different conversation but it's not it's not a territory make in. Malays are similar bates but anyway People who loved this film and it might two billion the last Jedi I might if Pity this why the loss annella money money in. I probably think I think it could`ve. I'd more the reason I say that is because if the film wispy can subjectively here. We're we're both LOST FANS. You know we we there are bits. We liked our bits of it. We don't like but let's be honest man like the last Jedi was divisive. Not everyone liked it or your show if I think if it was more the KONKUK crowd pleaser. I do think the last Joe I could have gone on a one point five one point six pill probably I am thinking that and then we get the loss on rises skywalker just over a billion dollars. This is the first time where in-depth really addressing this talking about this okay straight up underperformed underperformed it still a billion dollar film right. The this is still technically one of the biggest films of all time. This is still such an achievement. And what you can see I am going on on a you've got load stats here. We are you. Have you know he boy but it was well. There are some other states that I do think planes this because let's look at the American markets as an example a maybe the British mall kits as well. The rise of scar woke is still amongst the big boys is absolutely massive if the force awakens and let let me tell you something right here right now if the force awakens killed it killed it endgame killed in China. Yeah it'd be the biggest film of All Time. There would be a big shot. Forwards might might eight A. B. Definitely up that it'd be real close real Wroclaw's but it wasn't an issue. Things stall was is not a big deal in China Econo- never husband for many reasons for historical reasons cultural reasons you could go on and on and on about it. You Bernie. Dojo lips are all about But anyway I digress. The F- the Roy's of Skywalk it. It's so poorly. In China. Soberly there are very small European countries that were making more on the Ross. A skywalk then. China did GERNON MANIAC and that is a big deal and that is a big market April China's biggest populated country in the world and it also has probably one of the fastest growing middle classes. So that four you have a lot of people with more disposable income. Hollywood wants to enter that market. Yes let's not be blind here. Let's to very straight there is. There is no mistake the Mulan is getting made. You know one of the biggest budget Disney films. I ever yet stella cost and whatnot yet might dia talked in China. I still think rogue one was talkative more towards a Chinese audience there. There are many reasons for many reasons for that. One of the most obvious ones Donnie yen was there and that's not just because he's a brilliant actor who's done amazing things in Chinese cinema and he's just or an awesome way we are. We are so you know we. We should be so. I'm pleased an honor to have him in our franchise in our family but it was also strategic move. He's he's a big he's a he's A. He's a big deal in Chinese cinema. Zhang Wang who played as Morbus per show him some. I'm just thinking about visor. Massive point one I want show but what we see from the sequel trilogy is is just a gradual decline in silos for. Um The sequel Trilogy Matt on One. Hand it over to you now because I don't want to take all of discussion points is his. This is this is crazy. But we'll pointing this out. Okay so original trilogy. Fuss foam comes in smashes. Prequel trilogy first. Phone comes in absolutely smashes at Phantom menace a billion dollar film but as it fundamental skill a release thing of second biggest film of Autom- Phantom Menace back in ninety nine Again correct correct me. If I'm wrong on gang off memory here on this stung sequel trilogy. Once again the pattern continues. The first film smashes it by far biggest film. Okay so we got a pattern. Middle Film usually is actually the lowest in terms of Taika dance and the third film contest goes above that. It's nothing crazy but it goes above that and it comes in a second place okay. Let's remember that. Yeah if I full biggest second film will always usually and our third phone comes in just above that. I set compliance. Okay the sequel trilogy didn't do the sequel trilogy just went down. What just went downhill. So we start two billion one point three billion and in neely neely having a first episode Website seven with one point zero seven billion dollar entry Saimaa boy the secrity breaks the pattern. What you think him. Eight thousand the the obvious answer to that as well still might have billion and I get back on the sleek that artist it's the diminishing returns which doesn't have me worried has disappointed because we mentioned on our first pop cost why by trying to London trying to Stratford. We said we we. I think we both through a hat in the ring for by a one point. Six to one point seven billion dollars we recognized with Mike and then said on any up belief you. Us Code It. Anything on the one point. Three which lasted did could be seen as a disappointment. Anything around a billion or less would be a disaster. We said pretty much and Yup look what happened so we kind of spawning says it. I is this Asta No. It's not because it's do my two step billion dollars but it's not good another think on. I know it might seem crazy to say that. But in the last hours the biggest film in the world in twenty seven in two thousand Seventeen Guam was the second-biggest and that wasn't expected to make any money. Obviously the force awake was rose. Scott Worldwide was in the eighth biggest film of the year joker toy story. Four spider-man far from home captain marvel frozen to the lion king which made way more money than I ever thought I did. And obviously in game came in hoisted. The eighth eighth biggest film of the year so You know is falling behind these other. These are trenches or pixel the the new frozen and then the Disney original site. Rich knows Law in King and frozen too so it shows that maybe it's because more competition out has always been competition because when the prequels came out we had an order the ratings we had Harry Potter me at the rich. No Sam Raimi's bottom on films so it's being competition but this But the Rose's skull just disappointed and was some of that down to the fact that the last year I had a divisive reviews and Solo didn't do very well as well potentially as did the people lean to more than we think don't know I'm not prepared to answer that because Y- you know a couple of thousand people on the Internet aren't GonNa make a huge dent in the box office for the numbers Laura They. They are worrying and the lasted. I bought six hundred twenty million dollars in the in the USA alone. Rouses COKE IS GONNA end on five hundred and fourteen million two hundred million less and actually the rogue ones made more money in the US domestically Then the Rosza scar will rugg. One is too big winner here which on I will speak about as big all of this for the raw to Scott. Woke up and there was no bad. It had massive upswings on Christmas Day. New Year's Day people went out to see this film to celebrate it actually in terms of the actual box office. Ron Is Ledger last year. Doping looking at the figures is been bringing in more money day on tight than the last Jedi to the point where had ever taken at one point but has slowed down but the last night I had a more positive gains Diane dice whereas every money you she makes him every day you she films are you. She makes minus die on dice. They made by ten percent. They stay the knitted yesterday. The law said Ashley might more positives. It's bringing more and more days and people coming to see it in amongst the greater drops of makes any sense so yeah so they're all CISCO Show film to Stop making listed a million dollars a day I think even a solo journey film which may which got that milestone quicker so got lots more those but they're kind of a wanted to cut more reasoning with facts in our bay L. films after being the film sauce own stats and I already know some of these anyway to try and get a picture for for me for you. The listeners to so isn't just outside world it made a billion dollars less. Therefore it's not as good a Seattle little things as well that alongside with that as well so where it came in third biggest film of All Time Fourteenth United States lost to fourteenth biggest film worldwide in the nineteen in our state. So a still in in terms of their domestically they still won it. Every film industry is go in the top. Fifteen of time for the hand in the top thirty three white. So if it a sequel trilogy though all I do find it worrying that there is a an to sit there for the warring in terms of sound the Claxton. We'VE GOT A. We've got a problem here. But as a bit of an issue that what should not the grand finale. The skywalker Saga fortieth storyteller cheated on the table. Whimper and I still think it was an all company have come to the conclusion the last week that I think even cooling scar woke. Asaka was a mistake on our. We've had that common before often. They should have moved the secretly fifties in the future and have it play out was kind of as I know most to the the six films call woke Asakusa that I mentioned and reference it but the films and the character stand bottom. So that's what I think what we got a student. -joyed numbers voice. I must I show about how Catholic Kennedy in public affairs about that. I'm sure they're just relieved that they've made bank. Because I have made a lot of money. These films in the monks themselves pretty much recoup the money that they spend Leslie On on Lucasville the four point zero. Benin but yeah. It's a keep saying it I am. I saw it down on the fact that the figures it down what will be the key selling point the key. The cave point is in whatever? The next film is the next series of films. How whoa the debate to as I series? I'm sure wherever the next film is who to pre will because it's a new story now usually do quite well with the intrigue it was a series of films how. Whoa Dec- This was Phil Number two to fill number three to do we see an increase. 'cause we were we say what we like about the MC you their films consistently make at least at least seven hundred million worldwide. And you get you get you get the study. This lousy story like like the billion dollars and in case of game -Tupid in wattle star was probably reached for that kind of states where the film's now can at least I in eight hundred million worldwide and above. I think to expect every film to make a billion could be reaching especially in our. They've got new stories new characters to hang out all night. Maltby Tucker. We'll see how strongly they actually is. That's amazing going to be the test. Now how does the new film do Howard is Disney? Plus continue to fair with these new series coming out. But yet my conroy with I am disappointed and freshly warring in the in the downswing here. The thing is my is. Let's not forget lot. The the power behind star wars right. And that's the that's the things remember and that's why I'm not super worried is because the man's Laurean showed us the stall was can be on top. It can be the most about being in the office. Mate's most hoops by on the street and at home yet have ignited mentor improve stat and it shows us that despite the fact that. I live the force wagons. I love the last Jedi narrow. Bits of Roy's scar will cry. Love someone lost are bits. I can't stand in the last job I am. It goes to show that they Poli plant that's it. That's what that's the truth. And that is what this comes down to all of what you've just said. Oh the numbers you've talked by the MC you emcees bat plant if by. That's that's what it is. Incredible acts storytelling in older cinema to battle together to weave together. That's the magic man and I'm not a big MC fan. You know that but they all do I watch black panter. I sit there and I go. I cannot believe this film is bigger than rogue one Rosza Scott will even lost. Shut is man. Beat the last Jedi and it was up to the academy would get Outta here. Say That retrospective review via though it wasn't good film. Understand why was supported. I fully fully understand that and why emotionally support. That I get it I. It was overjoyed philmont. That was long story. Quality a precisely precisely But let's be honest this the sequel trilogy with some Magical Moments. Some of the best moments install was full. Stop some of the. My favorite characters install was full. Stop It. Is this jointed and you have to ask. Question Matt. What's the difference between this trilogy? And the other trilogies. The last film doesn't do as well. Why doesn't it? Why doesn't want doesn't do as well is it? Because you life I would of mouth wasn't quite as good. Maybe the appetite was a narrow after solo in the last few LASKO Maybe maybe wars the last year I did the last Jedi I give us enough or the people enough to wo- Quango. I need to see the next episode. Like what may be the force. Why did so many variables that probably it has so many variables so many variables? But it goes to show the. Maybe the problem isn't star wars because it's not it's not star wars again. I'M GONNA say get a man's Lauren. Shows us is not that problem. Toy sows doesn't cite it star wars because kids applying with toys less anyway yeah like knots not indicate Arrow united. That's nothing Fallen order about front to like having a massive resurgence healthy did did how much merchandise and makes a year for Star Wars. Go on at least four billion dollars a year and when as anything up to seven billion. Lego cookware clothes toys with the book so at least a year at least a million units a year. So yeah you're right star. Wars isn't necessarily the issue now. It's not a not is an pay. The people would murder for that is not up and this is this is true. My is the biggest film of Automic does not have in my opinion a stronger. Ip Than Star Wars. The brand does the the the mythos the identity it is not as big stall was it is not back yet. The Fan Click is not as conic is no oil. You'll follow them. That's how that's how things go. That's how coach works. It's definitely up there though and is definitely confusing because the common denominator between those two families. Those two businesses is Disney. And this is what we go to talk about now. We're less less talk about people. Let's talk about companies and let's talk about. Let's talk about that. Because I think the Disney model is the following disagreed. Me Actually Not John Wall. What do you think the Disney model is? I think the Disney Motor. Thomas is it ca. I think how do I put as strong but can be unhealthy at times the EMC pumps out three to three films? A year does very well for the most part star wars then gets accused of 'em fatigue for putting one out to our fee mumps But the actual original films e the original foes doing so. What are the minute sequels reports and Fatima Age live-action Repos author an very one of the Minnesota actually to me Disney themselves? I think when it comes to their own films on as strong as some other studios what helps them is when they bought things. Pixar when they bought the roster. Dmc You when they bought Lucasfilm. And obviously they're relying heavily on their odor properties New Properties Inc. wrinkle in time Not cracking the full rooms. What good didn't money either said having to rely on these. These films looks at the. Mca established may start pumping out more content. Which could be an issue. Quality wise for says Disney motto. Listen my it's a job. It's working so all of that said it's working it's bringing in big bucks or do you think there are the students who work who are better structures but let's return. Yes yes I think. I think this is an issue. I call ninety. I think the honor of of of spent a few months and especially these Pasuk is really thinking about it. Really trump's be balanced and I can't help but for this for definite. This is just my opinion when when you when you sit down and you listen to the Shout goes from Bob I guy. Yeah the Disney showed a coast and you you lana. I walk in very corporate business. I I work in a massive company. That's owned Bon. Even bigger company. The New York Stock Exchange Etcetera is Baker's very corpora and figures is king. I sit US true. And that's the thing people let's be to disarm because this star wars is at the end of the day I- business. Yes without without these phones Mike Money. Those people those creative people. They don't have a job if these phones don't perform somebody needs to be paid on talk. Lucasfilm I'm bringing into bonds and if Disney Einon Malla. Yeah what happens people? Good people lose their jobs. Unserious night's big deal. It's a very big deal and we're living in town. We live in a lot of wild west events time at the moment where we signed with our Kenny Knapsack. Lot Not that long ago a couple of weeks ago and I'll show when he came on this radio wild west of time in in fact lie in the paper KNISHES podcastone white to work but also the way people listen to music and watch. Tv The that's why Disney so keen to get on board with the streaming service our end low behold. Guess what. The deaf smashed it first time the Mandolin smashed it absolutely a no alighted that but you can already tell the how that Disney like. Clockwork IS COMING IN INGENIOUS. Pumpkin by the the much. That's come out dude depth. The march for by Dr Amanda Lauren is mental allow. The milk cannot think but people are going to buy. One people are going to buy it. I get it I get it. It's GonNa wind money now. The problem is we all know these avoidable companies. But it's when shed Joel a nice. Is this an important what to remember for my point shedule money come before storytelling sadly shed? Joel? My all. I have a feeling Disney sat down Lucas Film and said we need a trilogy to stall on Twenty Fifteen Yep on every two years you give us the cool. Yeah but I doubt that Mike and member their plans for how many standalone filters you rogue one solo. The warm Weaver Josh trank was apparently agreed green lit and that was something else. I'm going to see like your own attempt to directors and then who knows under the Kanobi film was apparently. They're so does there was big plans for for for the film so basically engineering potentially to films a year or at least one there for years in between the sequel trilogy. We'd have that standalone film. I'll see that. Didn't that hasn't gone well but we knew that they were plans to pump these films out. Yes yeah you can't help but feel like that does not equal isn't going to equal the best creative products the best of art and you can tell. The the most almost liberating products are the ones where answering seraing to at previous story by the Rogue One Force Awakens and despite and with this many times despise critical reception solo. Good story won't won't from Hud very controversial production but he's is fondness. Good side leap. Lots of stupid shed. Jillian problems and Sobat clashes. The last Jedi affected that film. There's many of factors but anyway it does make you think to yourself because Sola Spoken about that yet. Ease stalwarts being mismanaged. I think the answer to that is possibly again. I'm not ready to on the hill yet because two figures CEO. We're lucky to say in a corporate world sued about the bumps are you. What's what's what's after that. Donald signed nine figures. Boy You can keep on ten figures. Well you know. I talked to shareholders and the state coders. Bait one of the Baga is how much money are these products making calmly Mike More. If we can. How do we do it? Does that mean make more films Stewart. Does that mean pump out? More Merchandise Stewart but behind that terms of the actual studio production level is is it being may Spanish occupy in terms of production? Yes are now have mentioned that many times and popcorn and another shows and to your point where we kicked off the discussion of got up got big respect for Kathleen Kennedy. What she has done for her. She's you know she is a list of In Hollywood sees one of the greatest things to come out of Hollywood. If A and our anybody's otherwise is over. A fool has no idea about the the industry. Because it's not just a wo- she produced. Et will. She must be very good everything else. He's done behind the scenes. There's and there's Google wikipedia an many of mediums to godfather stuff out. Yeah we don't know questioning not lucky said so. He's risen up. And he might star wars the jargon that is obviously Lucas that but he's taken it from mistake in the baton and rabbit Stew de production low. How many Eric doesn't Hollywood and fight? Almost one for every project look at Kanobi recently came out on stage at the twenty three you and McGregor in scripture. Great we're ready to go. Cathy Kennedy says we've had these for so long couple months. What have we got about? Four four five weeks ago We've had a look at the scripts we lock them. We're going to rewrite all of them a Hossain. Either Roy is being followed. Thankfully Deborah Chow still boat but that was just one of many Dr Rex has been falling fought. I mentioned Josh Trank. Ludmila the whole Gareth Edwards thinks. Jj behind the scenes with the Rosza skywalker Colin trevorrow. I'm sure wants to getting somebody else as well as Kathleen Kennedy as studio hated brought running running. The studio is not in the Roy job for me and I love Kathleen Kennedy and on the quoting advocating research job. Because I'm not my connick guy and I'm not foolish because again. The money talks fought to production. Saw It has been a massive issue and and for us we spoke Embarrassing when you look at it for every every big production on something go through not just a you know seeing something small. It's something which could derail the entire process. So I think there needs to be somebody at the top or working alongside Kathleen Kennedy. Who knows how to run a studio? Kathleen Kennedy is is the greatest producer in these. She's in the top one or two in Hollywood producer. I think we need to get studio. Hate into work alongside her to make those film based ground level decisions. Who TO MICHELLE RUSH? Ron We got me gossip. Because we'd go rich array. She Hated Action Development. So hopefully she'll be able to steady the ship somewhat but it worries me and I have been coinciding voiced. It worries me. How many people get on board for only to lose their job again? I mean when we get this new set films when they released it when they announced director straight up legit as many of us who are thinking about they came they gone the Ryan Johnson. Tunji was shot from Nebraska is so much bad publicity surrounding the actual creation of these films. Say if they come out and say oh look boys direct in the next series of films. I am inclined to not belief that or not on a believe on. GonNa get excited. Because he's decided in a year's time employs not gonNA leave his job due to creative differences that Gone Okra Court and court difference so I think it's being mismanaged triune solid from a financial saw. It stood a great job. Even if I ask diminishing returns making money but might for me behind the scenes is is a big issue and it has absolutely got to change because as our friend block said and other people. Don't see this mismanagement in other franchises already seems to be Star Wars. Yep and this is the thing is hard to tell if that is because Kathleen is doing a good job Nishida stopping Mediocrity she is stopping bad storytelling or something. Maybe people WANNA come up. Leave them all consol was going to do this. Doll was maybe. That's not a good thing overall story in an on this front dress. The bigger picture and is one thing would size that stall was still despite the fattest Slob in you know. It's it's been a mixed bag over the last few years mostly positive in in many many regards. But it's been a mixed bag owed still your average star. Wars film in quality in terms of quality is still way ahead of your average DC film. Your average marvel film your average Roy. Neutering some light owed and walnuts and about low-pay maybe the Hobbit Aloe Vera trilogy is Sacred Standard is pretty is pretty good but You know the I do feel that I'm not sure if Kathleen is necessarily the one to blame. I've been thinking about this other loss. Few going sir. I think I think I really think he could be Disney. And I go on I think Kathleen is is doing what she can. What she's got with the people she's got Trentham. Give us the best product. The most consistent product and story but at the end of the product. That's how view and that's what I'm talking about. That's how these guys view it. Yeah fact maybe is Disney porn on the pressure of. I've always had this idea and you may have mentioned this but for those who who Domino and by the way. Thank you our most recent listeners. Without without a lot new mkx race. Thank very much cheaper the messages from media but anyway. I still think to this day on this. I've know I've approval. Anything cited for this. I can't help but think solo being released. When it was was a slap on the wrist to Lucasfilm I get that vibe for many many reasons I think it was Disney saying no. You're not gonNA move you film again because let's bear in mind. Folks weakens loss jet are all these films were shed dude come on in summer? Deroy my they all are. Oh sorry. There's a delay now what was rely. We think like even now like some of these funds are upset at us a tight turn around and I pretty much two years to Mike Blockbuster. That's not not long. They wanted to be done sooner. Yeah are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Nah So easy. Kathleen ease ease. Kathleen Kennedy the problem. I don't know how because now let's let's think about it. My we'll have the premier league. I say you you guys had a good weekend. Oh my we took villa to the cleaners might What school to new in the end? Tender very pleased with that. Yeah he plays my good few man. The science the science classes turning night. I love it. listen ally what we've had some For for international listeners we've we've had some lie slops Johnson Premier League this year Pasu season. And that's been pretty juicy one of the most memorable. Things is probably arsenal sacking manager. They sacked their manager. Because they didn't win. I didn't win nothing ages and this is a big club. All Snow Awesome Football Club. The world knows who asked Wa. Yeah but the problem is is it was almost very reactionary like it was always a reaction to something now then neighbors. Ironically that that rivals you know. Over the Road Tottenham. Hotspur up in northeast. London they sacked manager Bro in Marina. Small Line that we're on the you know you want an awful combat lost to no use to but that's just the way it goes. I said he warned gun crazy. There were over an arsenal and yet they were proactive. Let's see if that gamble pays off. But they were pro active. I can't but feel that that's a situation. We we need to avoid. We need to avoid just reacting to this in a bad way the UNOM. Speaking as if we have loads of power over this. But what I'm saying is maybe getting rid of the papal isn't the problem because let's face it guys. There's always going to be a corporation as always gonNA be showed us. There's always going to be a strict deadline on when they sue product needs to be on the shelves unsettling people when that film is in theaters selling out tickets selling out theaters. And that's the hit. That is capitalism evil. And you're listening. Toepoke cost about one of the most caps things as always has been. It's not let's not kid ourselves not a new thing. Lucas was all about those toys. Yes for sure I want. He wants to bid announced. The thing is that's the Barsky un-unsought toys have been given to play misty put on it by. Sierra last hour Matt and the ten in that right now little poem Listen Do I think he an? Hey here's the thing. Rosa Scott Walker could have done better. I think has so many variables on that. I think lost at is a big thing to do that. I do think the Internet people have had a little dent on that but I do think a big chunk people just want might be as interested in star wars as I could have been. I'd do do feel that filled up and that is because I think of the divisive nature of appear to Tom. Between the last Jedi and Solo. I do think the marketing for Rosza Scott will could have been a lot better if the story was a lot stronger. And if those dropped Joel. Wow moment in it it. The word of mouth would have been a lot better. I do think that as well. There's a there's a few things could have pushed. It could've pushed it. China is a massive massive part of this too massive and lastly boy Kathleen Kennedy Boga. All you keeping them ideal wrote. Are you keeping them well? Of course I am a man when you mentioned Catherine Kennedy and again our site. One was tom other wanted to go out. Happily some work along solder and his own produced into films were in Saif Hans. She are mentioned. Can I be like she got rid of Husayn Amini mainly because the script weren't good enough to me? Then Seek Nusa Fateh Ashley. They WANNA make this better. Which is a good thing. They've looked today and I thought you know we can make this better over the day. Twenty-three announcement didn't help coming up pretty good. But what we haven't mentioned and you have mentioned Ashley is condos but was oversee the the sequel is one thing you know the diminishing returns the fan reaction the divisiveness KK. In Bob Auger come under a lot. Of flack one thing. Haven't seen and I'm saying from anyone even though support them people coming out to eighteen instagram and facebook. And what not now about. I'm so glad. Kathleen Kennedy gave US demand. Laurean Anthony O. A bubble was behind Catherine Kennedy produced rogue one she produced a man laurean films which are films ensued after which held up by fans of the new age as he now pre hall to be on rogue once had a bitter and ISOS but the Matt Lawrence O. Got Universal success and price. But nobody's saying Whoa done hike Kathleen Kennedy for that. Be An because you know she was drawn was behind it? And Michelle was and Bob Argument. John Dave and the directors book Catherine Kennedy was division behind it. She produced it as she did to the films. And she oversaw production actually dip with the films so we must now not forget to say what actually the first ever Disney per star Wars TV series. Which is actually seeing the light of day in which has got so much. Klein rotten tomatoes up leave. The fans voted there or was there. Topsy Turvy shut series of last year I agree with that but what we would need to be celebrating the fact that yes We know them. Films of money returns notwithstanding born money. The first ever live action. Tv series was an absolute run away. Success the merchandise not came along with that is going to be a massive successor already has been as well. Disney plot itself huge success. Let's not forget that already. Is Our Gaza Kennedy behind that? As well certainly specially behind that so let's Osa stand up and give them a pat on the back for the winslow they've done Guam. Yeah WHOA and again one. Last time bringing bringing install was back to the big screen no other trilogy in the Star Wars. Whoa had three fight over a billion and you know a few series of films have been this successful where almost one hundred percent of the outpost might offer billion dollars have done the business and they are in the future report that given us with Amanda in the Disney plus and potentially kanobi. It was as good as we and whatever project luminous might be but semillas is. We're GONNA know but that's being south for big things Kathleen Kennedys behind that as well. Let's not forget that. So do I can. Yes with a caveat that I would like to see somebody coming to handle the actual data dave films production site not in terms of producing films. Cake caper hiring directors. Working with them that being there on say on lock to see somebody who's more tuned to that being onset working with them so Baga are actually bogus doing a great job in the stadium that shape and actually be touching might easily made more money for Disney believe than any upper haight has before. He's revolt company because there is no before wasn't doing so well. I'm keeping them. How about you. I saw th- income. The truth is if you're GONNA sack Kennedy who's GonNa replacer not not die felonious. That's not just some people think I'm not only on an even think apply for that job. I don't even think you'd want that job. Maybe John Afro. I don't know but I think he's grounds live four boots on the ground. So yeah he won't be making the product he wants to be making this all making the Phil. That's all nine gone. Man Across the street Kevin Alecky. He's done nine big star odd. Yes listen he he he? He's done a great job. Eastern great job marvel take him. I'll take him but why would he? I can't see him wanting to contain wanting to move from all those fair fair one works for one mother work for the year. The only the only raise not same leaving mall voice because marvel. I think has a real issue in the future with restarting again effectively. From and a post and Guy Marvel I think is going to struggle. is not going to be the same gloried is I don think. Let's say let's say I'm maybe that might be a reason for. Kevin wanted to look on two different things. I don't know That sandy go out. I can kinda think of. I can't think of many people who'd want that job to to to be Frank Lead-like who who's qualified enough for. Let's say some behind the scenes like Michelle which one we don't know about those kind of people and if we know anything about remember down. Barely anything about this lady's life you know. I'm sure she's very good. I'm very talented. We've spoken about this and the previous. I'm not sure she's even qualified enough to be in that position item. Now on an eye on and I but I will say this I would keep Kathleen Kennedy for the time being or maybe trump fairness maybe a trade off with Feigen now you've mentioned auto know Baba. I think he needs to go a Disney need to slice. Stand back and seriously property and go. Look we've had a record breaking year. Marvel's killed it but why did marvel killer? Why did I because they built this massive massive story this overarching story? That was consistent. They didn't do that with three films. Didn't do that with a sequel trilogy. What were they thinking? What's what they think in is uneasy ease unacceptable? It is unacceptable. It's not right. It's not an isn't good enough. I get why I get why they decided to go down that route. I get why maybe want to give autistic a licensed to the directors. I understand all of that and actually to some extent do respected by in. Hindsight high should have been bad. Planned should have been. This is passionate role sessions love. It is tale. Madness is it. I I do think that does the reason I say I gotTa and Disney Need Cola is is because you know I. I think that you know Prussian. These these films or two films a film every year you know. I don't think house to White Guy and that's what I did man. That's what I did on. I've been thinking in I am Roquan. Came out and I remember Kathleen Kennedy Coming Out Stall with celebration Orlando and she thanked the audience for rewarding them with a risk. I want to thank you guys because we took a massive risk make him rogue one and you guys come out and support it so thank you? We did something different. You support it. Of course I support. It was a good film. It's a solid film is one of the best was ever created tense. Standoff is to winner at this host sought this new era for many reasons but as the beacon. It shouldn't be successful as it was. It shouldn't have been one of their talk for. We biggest films ever taught for thirteen big of time in the. Us shouldn't have been the second biggest film of that year. But it was but it was an an I do think this is more of a root course and the actions from Kathleen. Whatever they are. I can't help feel that is not the root cause the root cause is the strict sheduled at Disney have put in place. This ruthless alike want Releasing a film every year. You know an eight now the Boga has said maybe you know stowe's is more of an event film. Yeah no kidding. No kidding but I get it. I get why they wanted to experiment and Dude. I 'cause it's business guys. If you're listening to this podcast you love stall was like us when we did was we have loved these recent Star Wars. It's still a business two questions for you on that might to questions. And that's an that probably sums it up for two questions firstly and this isn't me Disagree and this is. This is just thinking outside the box to what people might be thinking when they're listening so I don't know if he was to have a meeting with the stakeholders negative pope. We wanted to take retirement. What happens when he slaps figures down the type ones? This look how much I've put in your bonus pots and that the Kennedy family holidays have had because of me 'cause Demoniac Bowen. A secondly the of the finding th yeah. They took a risk and I want to potentially put more films out. Was Steroids on to do it. In dislike sequel trilogy is the sequel to the OT. The most beloved from Trinidad fulltime was saotome to experiment. Or could I have not it should. I've played it safe now. An experiment with a luminous or something else. That's a very good question I not I am. I think I think it was maybe experimenting autistic and within the parameters of the Star Wars universe. Which are off to summarize on. A sentence is one of those hard things to do if I take my hat. Soft any star wars director and writer 'cause it's difficult stuff but let me put it this way Experimenting in the Star Wars Film. Full Matt. No now's not the right time. This is an investment is a long term investment star was. It's not a quick cash crab and treating at maybe in places like cash grab maybe that is GonNa have a damaging effect on on on the brand. I mean I mean some big negative. Nellie because that's not my nature I'm just signing our. Is You know I think this could have been managed better and I am more clever intelligent y but like I said earlier. Man Hindsight's a brilliant thing. Maybe would be having a completely different conversation about this. If Star Wars was so big in China and an off Broadway often. I'm a I'm a SUCKER FOR LA But honestly when when stall was this Mike in Like twenty two million. I think it was John and marching like lie. Way More than that in the U. K. Yep Bit. I don't know if you heard Brian Chana Khanna different populations honest been just a bit just a you know. You've really missed the MARK THERE. But that's something that actually might be caught push maybe stores just isn't GonNa be big in China right now. Maybe maybe it will take a new set films. I thought to walk it. What marvel eventually if that Chile and Yeah that that that we guy man I think it's. It's a very very valid question and I want to be a Debbie. Downer arrived because I'm so grateful so grateful for the recent stall was we've had We had a listener. Who just started listening to. What is the gentleman's own? Let's give him a cheeky show. We had a Brett race is his unit years leading Oprah. I think race. He messaged me our listening on fifty. Shawnee said the thing is that the new films is the It did read night. He's not dumb. These films did recognize that passion for stole was key Canessa Star Wars. Dude I totally totally understand and I think from the side by side for that on very very very grateful eternally grateful no the contact with getting out soy books COMEX NOVELS VIDEO Games. I mean this is the best time to be a star. Wars Fan has ever been our thanks. Man I run at Cley I I do agree so fun because even nascent femme farm avenue a little bit even having a little bit of a Moan about this style orient where we're really serious about star wars. Yeah White and go problems in wowed yet. It's fun for us to sit down and talk about films and live off favorite galaxy far expedient Dulles Guy Right exactly man it's so good it's it's all I love is all off and I love that so there. We go abroad that we got. This is the way this is the way hi? I'm Ken Knapsack. Author of why we love Star Wars. And you're listening to star wars sessions probably Britain's Greatest Star Wars podcast Moss Mazda. There's too many. What are we going to do to do to do do ya Roy? My that's been molex. Figures numbers I absolutely bet my head and left me part so you know I wanted to go to the new Justice League can hold over there do yes. Regular Listener taught mathematics jess upsetting a pitcher. Davide of international beer called home and I drink solo next to each other. So so Barman claver point of hand please. Two points yeah. I will have a anything. China Drink Vermont as per inbound. Tina here we asked the graceless into galaxy for your thoughts and our my own our main discussion on we just had And he's what you had to cite the first off your voice message from those sweet golden tones. The king away was well. You sure as Hell Conte's everyone especially style which is gonna hit potatoes benefit styles bigger than ever. Thanks to them too quick to judge them for what they told night but then don't praise him for what they enjoy. All of you sashes. There are absolute yours remember. How team loves a good solid session. Thank you might strike over straight from the seven. What looks at it looks very postive. Luke. It must be something in the name rings very positive you can't please everyone and we've just had a little bit of our objective. Look things as well paper. Mon iffy now then high is GonNa Hate Patel tight but you know we're still in good hands Luke says Starr was better than ever now. Thanks to these guys and they also say people judge them for they did like. I'm rather than price. What did which is what we mentioned? So I think it's good to start off with some positivity yet is and I want to take this session as something like I in match because that's not what it is is a subjective look at the financial performance of stall was also. You haven't made your exactly when you look at it. As an asset is declining. That's that's the facts but if we're all having fun the world love and we're all of the time and I do think the Manda Laurean is the thing that we have to look at and actually so that kind of negates of just set. The man's Lauren is crazy success. If we're cinematic but men's rowing does China and Yeah I still love. My boy caught Iran. Yeah he's Rhonda. My favorite characters install was ever STU Dixie. I'll wait for couture jake conversation. That's coming along down the line cut way for us over recapped when when the film comes out with Deep Blue Ray and we can watch them back to back or whatever really see conway for that because so many good moments for showman not like I have so many strong fun memories of these films they are gonna be forever man because all these films have been there for me during hard times and good times. I Love Them. I absolutely adore them. And for that a like. I said I'm very very very grateful up next. Jump to hyperspace podcast said Kudos to Katharine Kennedy for reviving. What was basically a dead movie franchise that said the quality of storytelling does not much anyway. Close thought of the original. All prequel trilogies the claymores or even the expanded universe that also seems an unfortunate pattern of director's or writer's been sidelined or removed from projects. Long after that being announced to fans her contributions are certainly respect a respectable and saw an important chapter to the story of the franchise. But it's time for new leadership. All brilliantly written brilliantly written And then and then not make Josh a Vasquez said their only blemish was not pushing back silo not marketing it better other than that. Everything seems to be successful. You can say whatever about the fan reactions. The proof is in the numbers really. Yeah Whoa said Josh and went. We've spoken a lot about the numbers tonight. We have spoken agree. Both flows not sure about the expanded universe storyteller. No most of that was The cipher he said the only complaint. I have a lot to for him. Then he could play. He has is that they need to slow down and not green like so many products at once. Otherwise we'll get repeat of production issues that Deraza skull and Sido and this isn't I star wars in Lucasville appropriate. Leuke boy says it's a Disney problem. in the market bar releasing twelve movies or more year at just true is counterproductive counter. Intuitive for any filmmaker with emily powder added. That's a maybe a wee bit Margarita. Drunk Balki still told that the math is in their favor. If your company makes a Jillion dollars you're a success regardless of how someone looks dyslexia your product spot on. Yeah and I love the way she added in brackets. Matt's viewing boys Shaky shaky love it. Chris it's our trap. Twenty eight said no one can deny they have been financially successful. Heck they've even been historically successful. Quality of the films is another question or crash. Assoc- boy a job. King said those who gave us. Hashtag rogue one must be given talk to the dime people love and rightfully so and Zach Height sand. Great username added. I think finally starting to realize how out of touch with star wars films and they started with the sequel trilogy. What Kennedy I'm Bob. Need to do is back the hell off and let creators create and stopping controlling over the projects. Very interesting yet. Ought to be to stop allusively chopped a clown gave way off the lads lattes scarce co but podcast friends of the show. Said this is a trick question. But the film's might a boatload of money. Work wants to rest of lock in La La Ferrari one for us here on scarf. The sequel trilogy missed. Many mocks. Didn't succeed in concluding nine film series. Return of the Jedi was more APPs not the parliament enjoyable. Shore were the not so much Oh sorry friends at a showed a sleeping giant pocar say what you will about rogue one and solo them. Both of them were cohesive films based around a solid story. The sequel trilogy though not so much it doesn't matter what the process or the criticism so there were obvious control issues evidence of infighting. A No clear or cohesive narrative I know people like to sing Kennedy's prices and invasive inversely some people contemn Ron Johnson the fact is Catherine Kennedy was doing her job. The Sequel Trilogy Would Have Been Streamlined Fund movies. But they do not joy and our friend of the show snakes seven. I got a nice long run in friendly debate about that. So check it out on our twitter. Feed Nice interest in stuff interesting stuff. I'm next to Lolo ambig- J you said taking everything. In as a whole I have been a lot more. Good them bad. In fact the only massive Mr for me was rights of Skywalker. Every other Disney style was home has been good to great and the last Jedi is brilliant on the level of empire. Big thing they go on to say the rise of skywalk a huge messed up but at least we have the Manda Laurean and the child. This is the white low. This is the way the bid Django says fire them both Hashtag felonious and Dave Five Road Twenty twenty and finally colossal. Pm said well financially. The Disney era movies have been a huge success. Just look at the numbers I mean. The Force Awakens alone. Two billion at the box office for one movie to prevent perspective episodes one. Two three mildly made roughly two point. Six Billion Compound at box office stall was is imperfect isn't a perfect franchise. It never meant. It was never meant to be and people are putting it on an impossible pedestal. I do think that's definitely. There's some wisdom in that common although it doesn't mean we have to settle the mediocre decisions. I think there's definitely some truth in that. So yeah thank you very much colossal and thank you to everyone for contributing to this week's a bit about eighty four and follows on instagram. Check out the post because colossal DP and actually wrote an awful lot more wanted to far more depth but for sake of time we had to cut it down a bit so check that communist really insightful. And that's the last thing we got the final thing we go as a voice message down under is too close nine. We've never been able to pronounce but let demand if so teddy how to pronounce force hence use shall bid as. Daw deal though right stuffed up but anyway I just thought I would say hi. My Name's Dylan K the name. I just said before. That's how you pronounce it. I am a Kiwi. But I'm living over in Ozzy. Land have a Kiwi accent anymore. Anyway guys just thought I'd say a little. Hello Love Your podcast so much so glad to be part of the FAM Bam a Lam anyway. Just what I offer my insights. I reckon that the Star Wars films in the Disney Era Khabane successful like full films over a billion dollars like we live in an era. Where a billion dollars isn't even considered a success these days. But Oh my God it is like seriously the film that really didn't do quite well with Solo but hey it was still an amazing film and the reasons for that. The marketing wasn't the best. I reckon the time that it was slotted into in between two big marvel films and also not at the end of the usually is whole range effect is affected that but the four films are billion dollars hugely successful. I think moving forward. That doesn't need to be a lot more cohesion and planning around the stories and that will would definitely increase its success. But I've really enjoyed this era. I think it's on hugely well. Rises skywalker was a over a billion dollars. It was a nice comeback bounce back from Solo and start doesn't always have to be top dog like even when it's not top dog. It's still up there in the packing. The landscapes fast evolving star was always going to be hugely successful. I'm really excited. For the new era and stuff coming and install was going to kick it. But yeah anyway. I've talked for the way too long. I'm really sorry but everyone has a fantastic week and may the force be with. You always love you guys and Anyway Mike. There is still in tough to himself. Qiwei living in Australia and your Yep. You're right might. The fills might a boatload of money where we are at the minute. We're in a good place other issues. Yes and what I love about all of these comments on. What you've said is is the commerce. We've just got show us that the fans are passionate. They may not like leadership or films they may love them but the passion is still there. Doff actually what it was just incredibly fun to hear your voice so thank you so much for Senator in Mike. Thank you so much. You know Kiwi legend criteria voice. And please keep in tracked him in the show. We Love You guys and we love our patrons which leads us to. This is sports car. She's ever heard. Stop sessions on. The Mike is Quite got patriot. Now with lots of two dollars a month is polly is Roger that's right people from his Lewis two dollars a month for less than a cup of coffee a coffee shop. You can listen to amazing content. 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Some love won't pay to think. I didn't enjoy IT FLIPPING. Love Nut. Film destroys flaws. Poke with the all my diet. Simony giggles got. Simon inky goes every screening slots. One Boy Meister C. Three pair and the Rosca local which I never thought I'd have to say I would. I'm go for is tackled the coins Obi one in the G. and I've seen the Petra Macarena when Anakena Pat China and We've come to rescue you. Hope he looks up at his good job. That is the way you McGregor. Sos that line. Good job yes. I'm GONNA be really know e- discounts but it's how memorable the Perico saw co-host right. So you can do it. You Want My. It's so memorable. The prey goes. It's just like when serious serious moment. Their niche I counsel and suddenly what about the joy to talk on the wookey is tied? Will Bury errative wink wink. Okay jokes this son. Many installers saw ongoing assign number. Two is the prequels Craig. Who's what's what's your funniest moment. Install was like the pray. 'cause that not not why they mean to be funny to not Georgia. But why the names for Shaw. The names are excuse upon our this world all bleeding from the last Jedi. We know we didn't lock the comedy in that film. But there's one bit we made me makes me giggle. Every time is when the gang talking to Moscow Nassir in that video games cut scene and post to mass. Some long lawns of sounds like this code. Breaker could do anything and she says. Oh yes and it's the way Rosenfield look at each other and cuts back to the conversation between the two of always always makes me giggle every time or Shangri chocking honorable mention because he's such burst out laughing in the cinnabar when they put the bag. Oh for In ways hidden once you kidding me. I'm blind yes. That might be good out. Good shout shout good question I might show go. Is your favorite star wars comedy moments because as a few of them inadvertent or idealistic or not? So so next up. We've got PU buckle the man who can rocking Altuve Tux. He said Roy. It's been long enough and I need someone's opinion on this the end of episode nine. We see right. Defeat her GRANDPA teen nightspot when she does a double blade block. We see him start to disintegrate. Then I think cuts away. There's a flash then we see him literally vanish and lightning hit worry. Stood was this destructive effects. Or did he do it? Disappearing trick again. It's been playing on the OAK knockin with those international listeners. Noggin means life. Loaf means he'd been playing on his brain so for me. I think this is very effective. I think the disintegration is the key to all of this fact that we see him. They're going to infant your the fact that you see pieces of flyway. I think it's the was their way of saying. Look he really is a win because you imagine if they back again and look twenty years Tom. We need to somehow into navy. Mcdermott Ninety and back into the films. I think it was just affects. The way is the way it's meant to look you. Don't see body by the way they show the disintegration was their way of saying look he really is going my. I think I mean walk on and I I don't think he's dead on you. Watch my newborn. She's a we'll see if on I ninety more war is controversial. What do you think about that poll? I know that's a really layman's by kind of high. I can't handle Har Han Solo on. Har Say the coming back. I don't know it's a flipping. Good question on why. She never all stapled to be honest. You know he spicy boy. I have a feeling it's Kinda purposely been left to go either way so I think great question. Great question up next got cheeky question. Then none of our legend spicy boy EH is Matthew Bell. He says for me a big part of my love for Star. Wars is the bad guys. I think in many senses that the most iconic imagery from All Star Wars is the storm troopers admittedly with the possible exception of Dafa. Can you guys see Future Star Wars that sits outside the totalitarian terra of the empire or the knockoff empire in the guise of the first order? Or do you think the spice Nazis an essential an irreplaceable part of the saga. We all love so much beautifully written Matthew. My abloy takes away. Walk a year at thinking about this question. Do you know what I think or something. Tyrannical release because I imagine if you could have a group of factions headed up by mark bosses or crime lords and not just like Jabba the hotspur properly in even more influential crime lords who have toy systems at their Beck and call author. I think you could have like a collection of very wealthy benefactors who just wants a role the galaxy together but then is it. Galactic level. More exciting is having an emperor adept star or something along those lost something which brings real payroll more exciting tonight while they possibly because action movies have always had like a world end in. Frit comic book movies usually do as well. So there's nothing new to have the the protect the antagonise story to take over the world with a galaxy and have a an ruled by face. I can't think they they will go that way that they do. They do strike up a bit. Might be for me for having a faction of leaders not just one faction of maybe they could have been fought in between them and there's politics between them I present more storytelling but part me. Things are going to keep it with some overarching faction going forward. We're I want them to or not. I don can candidates for chemical future for it. I can't do but whether or not making a do that again. I sit on the fence with. We're not going to take that risk. Give us something really different. The product numerous as a chance to do that if not that the next set of films if they are going to go to something like the horror public which would have an or. If I got a chance to do it this oh absolutely I can do it with another story. Yeah I can't help of Phil. Let's look back in the prequels man. Like the the echoes of the Empire with their sense. Real real world Wrote visuals in the fact that we get the clone troops on the separatists. You know and I think I became iconic in that. I'm right you know proof is in in when I saw the Super Bowl droid in the mandatory in. I went crazy yet. I went so crazy and I love seeing the Super Bowl. Droid in the men's Lauren to me. It's collecting that tissue. And they were the bad guys Saw The answer is actually I think yes. There is enough talented artists and creatives out there to make just as an iconic villainess force as as you mentioned the released compelling and star. Woozy definitely definitely hands down thing. That is impossible but again. Brilliant question original Question Man. Love it look forward to the beginning of every month for we start getting the new questions coming in so. I'll get excited for what you guys come up with. 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Star Wars, Deadpool, Sesame Street, Toy Story 4, Seth Rogen, Gambit

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Star Wars, Deadpool, Sesame Street, Toy Story 4, Seth Rogen, Gambit

"Hello, everyone and welcome to slash on daily for timber. Twenty eighth two thousand eighteen on today's episode. We're gonna talk about the latest film and TV news is last shown editor chief Peter Saretta joining me to spike Aslan writers. Why turn buoy hey everyone in Chris Vangelis STA alot guys. It's it's Friday. And when will this week be over. That seems like a long one humor hours left. Yeah, there's all this, you know, stuff that's going on in politics and our own Jacob hall is out, you know, cover tastic Festus week. So we've been kind of in Abend traveling. So we've been, you know, short staffed and there's been, I feel more news this week than there was in the previous three weeks combined. Like literally I was putting together this podcast end. In the last thirty minutes, three stories broke, which completely changed our plan for this podcast. So you know, we should get to those stories, get to the big breaking stories. And let's start that off with Star Wars because he can't give any bigger than Star Wars. And the big news is that Kathleen Kennedy is returning as look as film president, Chris, would we know? Yes. So after solo Star Wars story didn't do that. Well, at the box office, there were rumors swirling all over the internet specifically on YouTube where literally anyone can report on anything. If they have a camera claiming that Kathleen Kennedy was out, I actually had someone at me on Twitter literally saying, I know for a fact, Kathleen Kennedy has already been fired, and you'll see, I swear to God. You have a same youtuber said that what dark Phoenix wasn't even going to be released. I think yes, the more of the story is people on YouTube are wrong, but so yeah. In light of all these rumors news just broke that Kathleen Kennedy has reappeared deal to be Lucas film president for at least three more years. So for three more years, Kathleen Kennedy will still be running all things Star Wars, and Indiana Jones and other Lucasfilm properties. I think you know, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there that hated last June. I, you know that are you know, declaring, you know, the reason why solo bombed was because of them. You know, they think that, you know she hasn't handled this well, obviously, was usury shoots for not just solo but rogue one. But you know, I've liked the output so far and I'm I'm a fan of Kathleen Kennedy. What she's doing HT would you have save us? I'm so happy that this story broke and just through all the detractors wrong, I'm I'm not happy just for that sense, but it was a big factor. I think Kevin Kennedy is get her job and she shepherded so many great films over the years. And yes, Star Wars had had had some very public troubles, but I think that's because such big property and she still has a bigger success too. Failure ratio. So I'm happy that she signed on for more years at Lucasfilm, and I hope that now that she is set for the next three years, she will encourage more diversity behind the scenes and hopefully pick more female directors and crew for the films which she's often been criticized for. The the big problem here. And I know we've talked about this in the past is that you know she kind of tried to hire a bunch of upping common, some new talent to direct these Star Wars films, and that kind of, I think, bid her in the behind quite a bit. And you know, I, I wanna see her hire female Star Wars director, but it's hard to do that in less you're going for the, you know, the two female directors that you know have done, huge movies. So I do hope that she finds a balance of finding, you know, up and coming talents and pushes, you know the diversity in the way she has been, you know, without falling prey to, you know, the problems that Lucasfilm has been having in the past Chris. Are you happy about this news? I am. I am thrilled especially after this week which is just been a living hell. In many ways. The fact that finally finally winey baby men. Are not getting their way in one way is just very exciting to me. And you know, not just because that but Kathleen Kennedy, I know everyone look. I don't think I'll be able to understand how filmmaking works like a lot of you will think, producers don't actually do anything, but a producers do a lot, and Kathleen Kennedy has been volved in so many move like ET and all the Indiana Jones. People act like, you know, she doesn't do anything. She's had a hand in so many like classic movies, you know, yes, solo didn't work out, but you know, to throw her out completely because of that is is silly. So I'm glad this is happening. Yeah, and inches that for three more years, which I think like, you know, if she had signed a deal to come on for another year and finish a, you know, episode, nine e- you know, that might have not been as big of a thing as this. I think this shows that Bob idir you know, loves what she's doing in, wants her back for more the the other big news story that just. Hits is that we found FOX's releasing a new dead pool film at the end of this year. This just like dropped on top of us, but. I guess the story does. It gets a little bit less interesting from there. Yes. So are lazy Friday afternoon was shattered when Twentieth Century Fox on the scheduled a quote untitled deadpool movie unquote to open on December twenty first twenty eighteen and after we were all reeling from this news, it was revealed that this was actually a PG thirteen release of deadpool two. So this is a release. It's coming seven months after deadpool two, I hit theaters in may and it's now coming out December just in time for the family holidays, which is when exactly you wanna take your family out to see dead full too. I, I wonder, you know, we know that Disney is acquiring FOX. Do you think is it too early that this could be a Disney decision to do the like? It sounds very Disney. I think like cynically it's on it. Hospitable because the deal is based essentially sentenced stone, but it's also seems to be in line with a series of other release date pushbacks that they just implemented, which is elite, battle angel and dark Phoenix. So a legal battle angel was originally set to open on that December twenty first twenty eighteen slot, but has now been pushed back to February fourteenth and dark. Phoenix settlement to run then is now opening in the summer on June. Seventh, this is crazy because the first trailer for dark Phoenix just came out this week in, you'd think you'd think they made the decision to to to move this film that they would have waited on on, you know, the marketing train. What do you think? I wonder if it's because there was better reception than they anticipated for the trailer. And it gave them a little faith in the film, and they decided to push it to a summer slot is what I'm optimistic. Here. I mean, June is like a strong slot and it's a, it's basically a summer opening for this movie which has had several delays in lots of production issues. So maybe it means that this movie will be good on the other side of the coin. That'll leader the Robert Rodriguez directed movie with the story by James Cameron. What do you think of this? Well, what do you? Why do you think they this is push back from this year total next year, right? Yeah. This doesn't look good for Lita battle angel because December is, you know, big family, big holiday like slot, and they push it essentially to the dead zone of February. So it seems like they're kind of bearing this film and I don't really blame them just from what I've seen in the trailers at least does look good and I, as you know, I'm big anime fan. I never watched battle angel, but they took some weird steps with this film I buy. You know, digitally altering everyone Alitas is at least to make her look have anime is which is just the complete a wrong sort of choice to make for an anime adaptation. I dunno, it's very strange, creative choice. Maybe it'll work in the film, but I don't think that this is FOX's putting a lot of faith in this film. I just have not interested in the movie at all. I mean, it may be has a better chance of being good than Denham put that saying much venom fan who wrote in today. We're to to venom fans in in one of them admitted that it looked like. But they were going to see it. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm not trying. I'm making fun of her or listeners. We love you guys. Let's move onto the other news that just hit in the last forty, five minutes and that is that they're making a Sesame Street movie with some interesting creatives earth this up for the site would we know. Yeah. So Sesame Street movie has been in some sage development or another since at least two thousand twelve, but nothing's really gotten off the ground, but now Portland Lia coat, co-creator, Jonathan crystal has been hired to direct a Sesame Street movie, so it seems like they're finally moving forward with this and it'll finally get off the ground and Shawn Levy is one of the producers, believe it or not. So yeah, it looks like that's happening at water brothers, one brothers now own Sesame Street because HBO bought it from PBS and HBO is owned by one or brothers. So there you have it the more, you know. Do you have any idea what the take on this story is I'm assuming nuts. It just says it's going to be a musical. There's no plot or anything listed yet. So apart, he wonders if they're going to take the approach of the two thousand eleven Muppets movie or sort of like reboot, and but I really don't know. I know as a kid, I was a huge fan of the movie follow that bird which I think came out in like. The ABC's maybe I eighty five eighty five and I think it might have been a home video release. I'm not even sure, but it wasn't a great film and it was really big. Bird had gone on the run, and everybody was out trying to find him or is big bird a guy or girl. I, I guess we all guy guy. Okay. Yeah, but they don't have any genders according to the crater Burton Ernie who says they're just best buds are either of you fans of Portland area. I seen a couple of sketches but not a big fan. I was a fatal like the first two seasons, but I felt like a kind of like ran out of steam. If a while, does the involvement in Jonathan the co-creator that show? Does that have you any interest at all in watching a family friendly? You know, just me street movie. I don't not really. I mean, I really liked that Muppets movie, but the Muppets have always been more like adult dr-. I mean, you know, obviously there for kids, but adults can enjoy it too. But Sesame Street is really geared towards younger audiences. So I don't know. I think maybe they could play on the nostalgia of that. You know, Jesus eagle, the Muppets movie. I feel like you're probably right. It's probably going to be geared towards very little children and probably not, you know, have that. Dual quadrant appeal, but I'm curious what the next story is Toy Story four will. I is being compared to of all movies, avengers and Finnity war itchy. Tell us about it. Yes. So Toy Story, four, which is the film set to follow twice or three the and which is kind of seen as the perfect cathartic capper to a great trilogy full, supposedly make you cry your pants off again. So longtime franchise star. Tim Allen has said that he couldn't even watch the entirety of Toy Story four just because he got so emotional. He said, in a quote, it is so emotional. It's so funny. It's so big, the idea they came up with, I'm startled I couldn't even get through the last seen so he doesn't get into the plot details of it, but Toy Story, four will supposedly follow Woody and buzz as they embark on a quest to find what is romantic love and trust in the first film Bo peep. And this is saying something that this film will make you cry as much even more than Toy Story. Three because every Pixar film makes you cry, but toys. Laura? Three, I think was quite a tear Jerker. Like, do you think that we're gonna lose either buzzer, or would you like, do you think they could do that to us? Like I feel that's being hinted towards us like I would hate it. I, I, I mean, I have owned, come played feelings about killing off character just for some sort of shocking emotional reaction, a my big cry and towards her through soccer Feis or something. I mean, I guess, but that's that's the kind of emotional manipulation that take that tilted a little too far. In my opinion, I might pine Toy Story three was the end when you know you see Andy playing toy Toy Story, three rd. Sorry for movie that came out like seven years ago. Yeah, but he was playing with his toys for one last time and you know it was like it was something that was more than just loss. It was something that I think that Pixar films really get to really well which is more than just and like they get. They do that too, but they do something a little more than just like sat death or sat. I'd like that kind of sad reaction. So we'll see, Chris, are you ready to ugly cry over twice? Very four. I guess I'm a little skeptical this because I thought twi- Sary's three was such a perfectly ending to entire like it just seems like a cash grab at this point. Like we're doing Toy Story again, like I'd rather Pixar would do more regional stock like they keep doing sequels and I get that. But I want more. I don't know. Like for so many years I was so excited for like, oh, a new original Pixar film and have them just keep doing Sam, then you got the good dinosaur. So yeah, that's true. So I don't know. You know, you're right. The Toy Story. Three was such great book end to the franchise, and I feel like I'm not sure I need another story and also I'm kind of I'm not sure how they're going to promote this movie. You know, John Lasseter was very involved in that franchise. And you know, he's obviously not at Pixar anymore, and there's, you know, a complicated failing around all that in this movie for kids. I don't know. It's going to be interesting to see. I'm really wondering what the take is because I think so far, all we know is that it's a love story of some kind which from what I heard was inspired by Don Lasseter in the his, his wife, which I'm sure they will not play up at all in the Marquette. Having you say that just made me very uncomfortable, so they're probably going to that's not going to be in the press release. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Let's move on to our next story and that is that's Seth Rogan. We'll be pickled for a hundred years in his new movie. What is this film? Chris? Put, it's going. I forgot to open the stories. I was going to wing it because I, I remember what it was because it was so silly. So this is based on a short story from the New Yorker and the film involves Seth. Rogan plays a pickle maker in the. Sorry. Chris left this money. Let me preface this. I'm going to give you a little insider baseball. So yesterday of Orion report or not gonna name because I want to call anyone out. But he took to Twitter and he wrote incoming as a huge story was coming. And when we see that you know in in the slash home slash all gather around, we're all were wondering we all going to end our battle stations. We're like, all right, what's what's this big story are going to be is it? Is it Star Wars marvel? What's it going to be? And the story is literally this a movie about Seth Rogan playing a pickle maker. And when I saw I just my blood boil, it was like, really, this is the incoming. All right. So the story. Seth Rogan, please a pickle maker who falls any of pickles. And gets Brind for a hundred years. And then he wakes up and he meets his great grandson also played by Seth Rogan. So that's the movie. Seth Rogan gets pickled for one hundred years and then it meets his own great grandson. So there you have it. Hollywood has done it again. Wait. So. Is this like that Mel Gibson movie, but like the comedy version of it where he got furs in. Oh forever. Young. Maybe, but he didn't like meet his own. Great. You didn't play like his own great grandson. So we were pickles involved. What is what is the New Yorker story that's fun this like we're just called this, it's called out. So if you want to read it, Google sell out New Yorker. I Google New Yorker pickle story, and that's how I found it. So weird each day will you see Seth Rogan as a giant pickle on the big screen? And just, okay. I'm wondering we'll, he literally turn into a giant pickle. Will this be some sort of surrealist commentary on society or is he just like a green man? And then they're kind of like a like a metaphor for for we'd here or something. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, like I, honestly, when I first heard about this movie, I didn't read the details. I thought this was maybe a sequel to sausage party, which made sense to me, but now this makes less sense to me, but it sets against meeting lasts now just based on the premise of the movie. Maybe it'll be a great laugh when we watch it. So I don't know. Maybe I'll get on d on Blu Ray or something. I just can't even imagine the marketing like the poster. Can you imagine the poster, like Seth Rogan as a giant pickle, or like just like with the white background out, this is seems so ridiculous to me, but you know, not as ridiculous as making a movie about the x. men character gambit in making it a romantic comedy, right? HD. Yes. But also I will defend the romantic comedy while it right now. It has sort of strange of flagbearer for the CPA hero movie. So according to Simon Kimber, who is the x. men producer and the director of the upcoming dark Phoenix gambit, which is starring Channing Tatum who has been kinda rocking that weird floppy hair since like twenty sixteen will be a romantic comedy, or we'll have something akin to a quote romantic or sex, comedy beieve, and he chalks this up to when you look at. He's a hustler and a womanizer, and we just felt there was an attitude swagger to him that lent itself to the romantic comedy a. But then again, he also goes on to describe house, not really romantic comedy, like how Logan wasn't really a western because like you know, everyone thinks that Remigia comedies a dirty word, but he says, it's just the vibe and that gambit has a romantic or sex, comedy vibe to it. Okay. Gee, I know you are a big fan of romantic comedies and I, I actually have a soft spot for the, you know, the classic remit comedies like, you know, eighties nineties and stuff like that. But. Gambit, really? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I am itching for a superhero movie that will kind of cross that divide because we've seen superhero movies that have bent John res- with the heist movie the spy thriller the the western like with Logan. So I'm waiting for that romantic comedy. I don't know. Gambit is the one that I want to be the remit comedy. And I also think that the the having belief romantically be a hustler throw. A womanizer is just like a a tired trope from rom com that we don't need. So we'll see. I wonder woman did have some good rom come elements which made it so endearing to me. But yeah, I'm just maybe I'm just desperate for Marin common guys. I don't believe that you actually sold them this idea. I wish so against it and I was like our, no, you're right. Maybe like hitch where he is a player and he's throwing his okay. Now, now your love it. Now, now you can see it's a bad idea. Chris, Garretson a bad. I actually like decide, I, I like the idea of doing different things with superhero movies, not just doing the same crap over and over again. Like that's what made Logan, so cool. That was doing something there. So I'm not against this idea. I mean, gambit is a stupid character. So anything they do will make him better. So I'm not against it. Okay. Let's move on to our last story. And that is, you know, in Star Wars, the last June, I podium Arain kind of a disobeyed all his superiors. He took control of the resistance ship and didn't even kill people. I guess he pointing kill anybody, but he there was some some blaster fire going on there. So we all the Sumed right that put him around would be court martialed in episode. Nine because you know, you can't do that in. Military and get away with it. So. So Chris, was he court martialed? No, the opposite. He got a promotion in the marvel comic series. Star Wars PO Dammar in he is now a commander. He's now commander Dammar, and you know he in, you know, you could read the story. I slash dot confident boils down to. He's about to go on a mission and laya tells him calls it commander Dammar into this isn't a comic book. Great. The mortal Kombat series. I said, Star Wars, Kodama and it's issue number thirty one, and it makes sense just because the resistance is very depleted. I mean, yeah. Mandalay there was like ten people left. So I think it makes sense that rather than go through the active losing even more people, they've decided to, you know, promote them. And so now I guess by the time we see episode, you know the next door film Odom it's going to be a commander, so he's failing upward. Yeah, I was being facetious. I don't think anybody of any one of us actually expected him to be court martialed or to be demoted. But I do know that the resistance is a very small group at this point. But I don't. I don't get it h t Iran like for like thinking, I know he's a hero and I know we should be rooting for him. But I feel like. He should have been knocked down a step or two after. Yeah, I actually agree with you Peter. I think that's it's strange that he got no punishment just for for blatantly disrespecting orders. And I while disrespecting orders us like firing blasters at like it was insane an actual coup. Yeah, I, I mean, this will be sort of a time jump afterwards too. So maybe there will be punishment that takes place and we just don't see it happens off screen, but my feeling is that, yeah, they're kind of the numbers of depleted and they have really no choice, but to put him back as commander, I guess we'll find out if the address addresses at all when Star Wars of nine whenever it, whatever that is going to be called comes out next year, late late next year. That brings us to the end of today's slash from daily HT. You're not going to be here next week. You're going to be on a trip that we cannot talk about. You'll be far far away actually, that's that makes it sound like I was saying that you were going to set as Star Wars. That's definitely not happening. It's DJ will never allow any presence that I just met. You're going on an international trip? Yes. I can't say where I'm going actual. Okay. So I'm going to New Zealand. I'm not coming back until Thursday, but yes. So this'll be last, you see of me. You can find me every day though at slash film dot com. And I'm on Twitter at h TRAN Bui. We're excited to hear about your adventures at least the ones you can talk about when you come back on the water cooler, Chris, where can people find more your work on line? I'm at slams dot com and I'm on Twitter at sea, angels, four thirteen. You can find me at slash home on all social media. You can find all the stories we've talked about today on slash home dot com and lengthen the show notes. 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Episode 29 (Part 2): Crossover  What Can Small Business Owners Learn About Business From Star Wars

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Episode 29 (Part 2): Crossover What Can Small Business Owners Learn About Business From Star Wars

"Mica Jonathan and you're both listen to part two of the conversation with the guy on the skywalk podcast. If obviously if you got through part one you enjoyed it is long when I know that right but nothing exactly but we continue our conversation with them about the business of Star Wars how we apply that to small business really had a good time with the guys. It was fun man so enjoy part two of of the of the conversation with the guy from the skywalk guest and don't forget to check out their podcast as well the skywalk the skywalk sky is in the sky. Walk as in the thing cooking. That's what Brett says. No W okay look upping block is what you cook enjoyed the podcast part number two. We'll talk to you later. You're listening to the common sense if if you just started a new business or if you just thinking about it this podcast is for you. Michael Logan and Jonathan Neves over twenty years of combined experience as successful entrepreneurs advice on this show was used to build their businesses from single member organizations to over multimillions in revenue and multi not unit operations. He Michael Luca Dance. Jonathan Levin right cool so let's go to number four. Dip inflicted is the Star Wars Galaxy. Ride in my computer's shut off. Is The star wars galaxy ride. It does need the catalyst for more star wars growth in Wants to take that take that so Keke brand jeopardy yes I am ticket to hang out dividend in and the reason why in what no you'd be surprised. I'm dipping this one barbecue sauce. No uh-huh oh what's barbecue is this is this is lower than barbecue. Okay all right all right. This is not a slam dunk here but I would say that I'm doing this sweet sour sauce. That's below. ooh Yeah Yeah Muster. Yes it is okay. Because here's the thing you have to release if he below honey muster yes. I'm GonNa tell you why I'm GonNa tell you sauce Dan however he was already offended that you you bought at the very on all right. So here's the thing here's the thing you never have to request sweet and sour sauce. It always automatically GLI comes with a back. You have to request honey mustard. You have to request barbecue sauce. Khalid banner better like just tastes doesn't my book I mean you know L.. His thing is if you if you want the selection you gotta ask for. So what you're saying is our you're saying is if it's automatically given to Donna. It does okay. Okay okay. So the diamond us. So here's my point about the ride better so many different things. There are so many different different things that can add to star wars growth. There's so many things that fit. Yeah big could be a cartoon it could be a ride at right at the theme park. It could be the merchandise is it could be going to the movie. All those things fit into the the Eagle Verse of Star Wars but as far as this particular ride I think it has the opportunity really do so. The question is is it a chasm catalyst. I don't know if it is right now because right now the what do you call it. The attendance is is down Tom for not just star wars galaxies edge but for Disney so people visiting the Disney theme parks is actually going down and I. I don't know if that's because of them not be bringing relevant content or not making their theme parks advance enough for you to get that. Wow how factor in there But I did just speak to someone who just came back from Galaxy's edge. WHO's a coworker of mine? And she said she loved it all right that the experience was completely immersive but ways however before you let us plane all right go ahead. Is She already star Wars Fan yes okay so puts the number one okay number one. She's only star wars fan but number two she's a mature person and I think it doesn't Going back to that earlier one where it says is struggling to win over the next generation of Kids Star Wars Galaxies. GALAXIES EDGE is not for kids is for adult see ads ask. Price Point is bringing up before it's lose your audience like you gotTa if it's GonNa be for kids it's not GonNa win over the mature Fan Okay so perfect example when you go to the Cantina within galaxies edge the whole point of going to the Cantina is to get an alcoholic drink so automatically anybody who's lower than twenty. Only one is not going to appeal to them. So let me ask you a business question go it. Are they missing the boat by doing this. And here's the reason why I'm asking if you're trying to leverage star wars into something that will last forever. Do you have to make this this ride appealing to the next generation. I think you do. But the problem is that they're marketing. Strategy was terrible that they should have marketed to just specific demographic and said hey this is only for the Star Wars Geek that really really love Star Wars. We're making this attraction for you and we're going to develop this attraction to become bigger. I more rides more appealing to kids. More appealing to the general demographic but for right now this piece only exists Assis- for those people and to me it's really only for the people who attend the Star Wars Convention so they have What you call it Star Wars celebration and they have the Disney Disney d twenty three and so that happens every year. Okay and we're talking. How many people attend those those things right but it's it's gotta be ten thousand what's thousands tens of thousands? What's the demographic of people attending Brett? I'd say that's all over the map I would. You would think right. It would be people in our generation right like the forty to fifty year olds but I see a lot of younger people there to a lot of twenties and thirties even teenagers. And of course there's always some kids right even though we kind of agree. They're not fully reaching the kid demographically. I shouldn't be and the the point is it that it's still a special Demographic of people so you're talking about a subset of people who are super into psalms. So here's so here's my there's a lot of business that come through here and one of them is. This is that the generation who own who has most of the disposable income are baby boomers K.. However millennials tend to spend more on things like streaming and health things like that even though they earn less and they have less disposable income and maybe more discretionary income because we're actively working right so I guess where Star Wars Disney is concerned is that they have to make a fundamental choice as to small business owners accepting your case Jonathan because your main clientele assuming fit into either both discretionary undisposable because you have to have heating air conditioning ventilation your house like no matter what yeah? You're a homeowner basically demographic then maybe target specific differences lightest likes cash or finance right point so am I actually does make a difference. I go after people who typically have more MM disposable income than discretionary income because Those people who have earned the money and have it to spend and they don't have to worry about probably major vendors coming coming up right there. A little older so Disney has to. I feel like pick a target in. Sit there and sit there for a little while just for a little bit because so you build you build this galaxy's edge exhibit right. Oh and I like that you call it that. Galaxies War Galaxies Galaxy O Exhibit Crevice Galaxies gluteal cleft. You know what that is. No that's the scientific is in. Yeah and so like you build this in you have adults I feel like you can have the celebration and make it an epic adult adventure. But it doesn't have to be the ride you don't really mean like the ride should introduce the kids to the to the star wars world whereas the celebration by the way is called celebration to me is a legacy event right where you're focusing on the people who who enjoy this historical legacy legacy star wars in there celebrating. I mean it goes with the name right. I think the thing you're hitting on and I think I think we're going to see is this. I think everything you said is true and so I think you're going to start to see them. Divide things up two different targets. So you're talking about one target. I think they will do that. But with one thing. Different target with a different. Thanks so I think with a theme park I think they can. I do to hit all the audiences right because you go in the ride and live your adventure. As a forty two year-old you come out and there are characters in the park to play with your kid. Yes your kid acts like this type of thing they do. Your kid holds her handed like they're using the forest and Kylo Ren will start like falling down wherever right so I think you can do that at a theme park. I think one of the problems is they've been trying to do that in the movies. Appeal to every single group and they've said as much Kathleen Kennedy has said and Bob Iger with the force awakens. They treat it like kind of like a like a rolling stones reunion tour whereas like who's Kathleen Kennedy for She is the head of Lucasfilm. Okay bye-bye obviously zeal of Disney right. So they said when especially specifically with the force awakens the basically they wanted to play the hits but they wanNA play the new stuff to just like a concert where it's like you got this fan base. He's like you know. We want to hear the rolling stones old stuff but they're just like we still making new music and you know they want to play the new stuff that you don't care about right whereas I think they actually have have good news stuff right and she'll be using that more and that would reach the younger audience better. I think they're trying to do all of it at once with the movies like we said trying to recoup four billion dollars breath in five years and so they're just trying to mash it up and like I don't know how you guys feel about this from a business perspective but it seems like generally in life when when you're trying to please everyone into believing no one exactly I mean it's kind of just a fundamental truth. Work is a website that aims to please please a certain specific group it ended up pleasing way more groups than expected right but there was always that focus. This is the group that we're targeting the worth we. I think it's GonNa like this the most and that's what ended up reaching even more and the opposite where it's completely backwards so I do think oh go ahead you know like just speaking on that. That's kind of what I've been saying. This time is like like I don't know who they're pandering to like even up to net like all right so when we kind a switch gears with the show and doing some stuff on it off air. We played a trailer. The first thing showed was a trailer was kids just on Halloween. The first thing showed up with star wars right right. Yeah but who were they. Just end up a star wars as it's the new character nor the old the old ones so darth vader. Chew we Princess Leia a chewy right. Yeah who would the. I don't even know who the new character like. You can't dress up as a ray. Whatever name is Ray Lorraine like how do you just because race has cloth cloth on or something? You definitely can't dress up as Finn unless you get dragged into the streets talk about politicize things like it. Because it's like I wanted I wanted to be Fend for Halloween or something like that street is this like I don't know I don't think you want to dress up like the old characters I think again again. That's tempting they're pushing. I think the parents will look at that and like Oh yeah. I'M GONNA get my kid at Darth vader costume kids. Like I don't want that you know. Well I just think like like that's a huge Kosovo for instance my son. He watched Black Panther. They did a terrible. That's a whole nother subject with their merchandising but they finally came out with merchandise for it my son loves it like he wears it all the time right. Like where's the new stuff for the kids that like that's how you're going to get the new generation and now I think they're going to fix it with this whole man delorean thing and overtime might be fix it but up to now like nobody wants to wear Kylo Ren Kylo Ren's mask that well what silver this is US though I see. I think kids do like that stuff. Their kids who think that's cool. I don't necessarily think it's cool. Kids are there's people who love it. So here's my question I haven't heard here's my my point is that I think that you can't do both with you. Have to be very careful. Nissan owns both Infiniti and Nissan. Volkswagen can own Porsche. Volkswagen and Audi Volkswagen Lamborghini Lambruschini. Volkswagen is not the luxury brand. But obviously Porsche Audi and Lamborghini we are right. Infinity is a luxury brand to Nissan. And you can go on. And on their companies that have have chosen to develop luxury brands or high Ryan brands or the other is in Disney is certainly big enough to walk and Chew Gum at the same time however strategically weekly if you're Disney yet to about what makes what makes the most sense so like as a small business owner. Eventually you have to. At some point we talk about timelines. Think about what makes the most. Oh sense right so does it make sense for me right now to focus on X. or Y.. I thought that one of the most brilliant things that Disney did surrounding star wars was was to number one remastered and number two released the old versions that were remastered back into the theater. And I feel like the reason why that's genius is because the remastered They put us some. CG characters instead of the old looking characters that Kinda look like muppets in NBA released into the theater and then they could have had a marketing campaign behind that and there were at that time they remastered and released it. There were a lot of Halloween costumes with with iota with Fater right in with some of the other characters so scout Luke's hierarchy so like so they can't walk into government the same time the problem is has is that they got the scramble mode to what you're saying they made a big purchase of Lucas Ltd.. They absorb it four point point two billion is chump. Change doesn't how big you are. And so they had to make that money back and so now they're in this whole like less crank off these movies because movies or or this big ticket thing is like the shortest line between A and B right but the problem with that is with the movie tanks. When a movie doesn't do yeah well and so so so here we are? We're putting tons of money into this and then now to try to get the shortest line of success but that short line is success doesn't exist whether you're a small small business or big corporation like you have to. You have to have a plan a plan on how like the Marvel Plan See. We already know it. We may not know the details of it but but we know that we know that. There's face one this face to fate that Jack and not just not just with that you mentioned that this happened between Disney and Lucasfilm or when when Disney bought rile Lucasville but the same thing is happening with Disney Buying Fox. They're having similar issues in their also taking in the recent stock report that just came out said that they're taking losses with Fox because there's not transitioning that will either right so it's you know all of this is terrible and X.. It's been movies as my hoping like now. It's funny because my wife isn't fan of Scifi or superheroes are all that but she we saw the last X.. Men movie which is Dark Phoenix. She said it was terrible. It was so she was like she was like. Why did they do? She's like I liked the X.. Men Franchise is be. This movie in particular was terrible because they were trying to ride the capital of game of thrones. That's why that's why they brought Sophie turnaround. They will like gave it thrones. Owns is the most popular planted right. Now let's get the start one of the stars of game of thrones and and like see if this just hit space off you've just for capital so you guys tell me but there's a movie with Sophie Turner in it. That's not worth seeing. It's worth seeing. Imagine how God has has to be known that move away makes is. Are you saying the SOFI turnover on your list so free barbecue sauce own. ooh To Amelia Clark sweet and Sour. Oh this is fine words bro on that. I'm dipping that you. They found that on a big. I'm a big overturn interested in when she so she had this so she had this Okay that is. She was killed for me when she was filming game. I if they if we're only talking about those two Amelie Carcass definitely barbecue sauce compared to dope dod so she was going through. She had some emotional struggles when they were filming game. Where Sophie Turner? Yeah like she was Azzam had gone through depression because of some of the comments he says like people were calling her fat and unattractive who are these people have their. Where can I find them? Yeah because obviously these people they must not be able to see because she's hot. I think on the show. Game of Thrones Amelia. Clark looks better than Sophie but in real life I think Sophie looks better than yeah okay. I won't be able to dip that that because you know. Yeah here's what I think is hot. She's we're talking about the yes but come on camera We came out with the county auto auto no overhead rule getting loud here with the oldest gotcha stuff. Yeah sorry what else is. I think I think Mike the big all that I do think you're going to see somebody suggested recently an article. I read that the men delorean is basically even even despite what he said about. Streaming being more millennials learn his show made for people like us forty something year old. Who grew up with Star Wars? Like everything that's come out about it including the people making the show like this is what the men delorean's four and actually the first like reports started coming today. They had a screening today where people saw like a half if I were footage from supposedly the first three episodes of the mandatory along on the episodes. I think. It's like a standard netflix drama. So I think we're talking five five fifty five minute range here so everything that's come out about. It was like this is if you if if star wars a new hope had just British filming and then you told them running back for three more weeks like this is what you would get from that time period but also advancing it more with new techniques and new technology and everything and that sounds like it's for perfect for the people who are like I want my old star wars back. That's what that's for. They've also brought in from our last episode. That we we talked about with Kevin Foggy they just announced in. What was it two weeks ago? They announced that he would be developing a star wars film. The Guy who runs the whole entire marvel cinematic universe will be developing star wars interesting and that seems like that would be more aimed at the millennial generation the people who are into marvel and some people look down on that like. Oh He's GonNa turn into marvel but see. I think he's a lot smarter than that. He knew what worked for Marvel. And I thinks he's perfectly capable of looking at star wars and saying it's different but I can find the successful mix there too and I hope I hope he does and if anything though Oh that will be like you said the marvel stuff every kid is dressed up like marvel care right right every kid so and it's so much more diverse first culturally racially everything right so I think that maybe that is the plane going forward ready for this for the old guard right like us which is Amanda Laurean. You can have that. Then you're GonNa have you know the casting and or show which is supposed to be sort of like a spy thriller. They have people involved with that from the show. The Americans aiming for that so I think they're kind of settling on these targets that you mentioned with different flavors getting more focused experience instead of trying to please. He's everybody at once right now. There's a little breathing room and they're giving the time to develop theories time you're right. So that's the biggest part is that's the secret to marvel uh-huh that but you know as far as targeting the audience. The things that worked for Black Panther are not the same things that worked for Galaxy guardians of the galaxy right. It was completely different tone a completely different format and yet those directors had the time they were given the creativity to say okay. I'm we're going to let did you figure this out and create a team based on this topic in. Yes we do have a grand plan. We will find a way to bring them all together but right now I'll just focus on your specific. So here's his part of my point like I love plot I love plot density and I think that you know the plot of Star Wars is fine story is fine largely find the concept of Solo is fine. The problem is is in when they fight and do things that are fantastical. It has got to be fantastical like it like. There's nothing better than watching a jet. I do like that. Triple Axel suspend while blocking laser shots coming at them and then sending them back to the people who sent them to like that stuff is like is is is cool and I think that the other thing is like you gotta like feed this futuristic thing so like ours I came out. It was futuristic. But what does the future look like. Now the future right now looks completely different than the future back in. Nineteen seventy nine and like you have to you. You have to like feed what our perception of the future is from this point because we were supposed to have flying cars twenty nine hundred so what does in two thousand nine hundred. We haven't seen in the future that doesn't exist that would exist in star wars happening today into the future as far office star wars is supposed to be back in nineteen so back in nineteen seventy nine. You say okay. This is taking place in two thousand nineteen in like have all that stuff but okay. So what does the future look like today again. Like to me like I would say even for like the new saga of Star Wars like even our perception of what the forces like this is in the future way past this timeframe. Well we thought you could accomplish with the force. That's nothing guys can't wait till you see this and it's like like 'cause that's what made it free for Y'all when y'all it's like this has never happened before nineteen seventy seven. We've never seen this before. That's what they gotta do for the future. So I think like for business stuff too. I think you know I'll talk talked to people who it's like you know we're we're word of mouth we've always been wondering mouth in it's like Yeah Okay and you work your one man band like like you've been doing the same thing for the last twenty years and nothing you've never taken to the next level right so it's like all of us in business you either grow you die right. Somebody said it's like a blade of grass it's either growing or it's dead like there's no inbetween right. How do you take it to the next level? It's like maybe sometimes you're going to have to do something something that's different Think outside the box. I think there's like we could apply so many lessons that we learn just even from today's episode right but I think that's in in my opinion. What Star Wars has to do so so my view like when we were talking about before a conversation we had a couple of episodes ago when we're talking about like the future like for instance like h back and you? You said that some of the stuff already exists. which but of course any new technology in any industries hyper expensive until the market? Yes allows competition than it will drive. The price on ultimately so happens happens in capitalist systems right so but my point is that you walk into a room. The age factor Your core body temperature in a suit as you walk in. It's just the rump to your body temperature to make you optimally comfortable because is reading the room with you as a human and like adjusting the whole environment to you but in order for you to know that as a business owner you have to be you have to be educated have to do market research and is this a demand. Is this what people wanNA. Let's see. Is this where everything is going with. The answer is yes because homes are going home is going smart so people want their homes smart older baby boomers. I think technology is cool and they'll use it if it's easy accessible. But millennials want everything smart they want subscription base and they wanted smart right out out in so right like going back to your point about you know or actually micheals point about wanting things to be fantastical. I can point to multiple moments in the empire strikes back where something was fantastic and it didn't even have to be a Jedi right. So Han Solo being able to navigate through the asteroid field him even coming up with the fact that he could park on the back of of the The star destroyer in order to trick them into thinking that he was gone and then floating away with the trash. Those were moments where they're like. Oh Man I never would have thought of that in like. That's why he's the best pilot in the universe right okay exactly against cloud city. Oh yeah the fact that you have this floating city on a cloud planet like what even at the middle of this. You know. It's just it's just crazy busy though you're right you imagine one hundred percent true in like you know the funny thing is like that's how you tell the story but that's also how you earn business so like for Disney. It's like you have to you have to Kinda see around the corner. Well what is this new. Okay I'll give you an example a lot of luxury companies. You may not think this subscription model works but it does are using the subscription models to sell cars now in order to sell. Subscriptions Porsche has a fifteen hundred dollar a month. Subscription to to upgrade to any portion change anytime it includes insurance includes taxes his registration fee in-includes. You drive in the car you pay fifteen hundred dollars a month. They charge a car every single month for driving the Porsche and you can swap it out right. Everyone wants subscription model. It's part of seeing around the corner about what people want. Because we know that millennials hate them that it's just it's in their DNA China they hate to commit to anything. And so if that's the case Disney hotter you appeal from a business so small business owners number one. How do you appeal to the people who hate commitment the next generation? How do you make it so that they buy in obviously took the first step with Disney plus but the next step step is how do you make that? They feel like they're getting something new. Every single time from Star Wars right does does the maim star wars alone bring people into the theater or does it have to be star wars something else to bring people in you know what I mean like. How do you scrub it and make it fresh fresh and to me? Demand Laurean is perfect example. Because you're not even calling in stores anymore just calling the Mandal Orient Right right so everyone knows does the. We're we're look. You're wearing a shirt that says star wars in the main thing on the front is Boba Fett right. That was in one thousand nine hundred seventy one thousand nine hundred eighty two but now. It's just a mandatory Laura so they do know how to rebrand but the question is are they going to be successful at it. Are they going to be able to to change direction and to me. That means that they have to get the transition correct if they don't transition right if they don't do good service to to the legacy while also trying to bring in New People is not an order and ultimately and a lot of our fantastic phillies Jonathan in business. In general we talk about this. is how branding this is this rebranding. An execution of rebranding is what has prevented some big name. Companies from being successful for instance. We talked about the hit factory. The hit factory was one hundred thousand guys. No you guys factory. The HIP factory a hundred Thousand Square foot recording studio in New York where back in the early two thousands and be in earlier every single celebrity celebrity that you can think of that has has been a like the one percent of celebrities. Celebrity artists have recorded there with Houston Houston Michael Jackson Prince Biaz. AJC The Beatles. You know John Lennon and John. Yeah John Lennon anyone that you can think of that has been successful in had have have recorded there the thing that made them special. Was that the customer service was white glove. Artists will come then they will say I hate that carpet. They ripped it out. Country Artists came in to make philly home they put hey in the recording studio like they did this on a regular basis so yeah An artist renting a studio was exceedingly expensive however they were artists they could often afford it but at the same time they were being compensated for the White Glove Service. So but here's the problem. The hit factory ended up going on a business in a lot in large part. Because as you know when the market develops immature the cost of doing business goes way down so now we're recording this podcast area. You can have you can have a you. You can record a hit record a worldwide internationally hit record in your pajamas and your bedroom right and so I don't need the hit factory. I don't need to output three quarter of a million dollars to make a record of just to be comfortable when I can make it in my basement and turn into a recording studio so is so the hip bags. Because the technology's he's good enough right but the hit factory failed and so one of the things we were saying as well what they should have done. And changing gears is they should have started to change their model a little bit to to start to certify independent studios that were still out there with their stamp of approval to help show that okay well. Your studio is qualified. Your Home Sutil. Whatever to service or to produce these records or whatever but like from a Disney standpoint but they that they're not doing is thinking about what we're talking about now? which is the rebranding piece like in the Arctic about rebranding they do? They're doing small ways right but the problem is but then you have other extraneous things like how does them the Star Wars Galaxy. It's like okay with me and my dad are going to go there but like my kids going to be like well. Why do I want to go to Disney to see? I don't want to go to magic imagining them. I don't WanNa go to magic kingdom. I want to go to where the animals are. Animal Kingdom right because animals are more exciting dining then star wars galaxy S.. Like congratulations. But you know what I mean like you just you just lost a sale but like and it may be maybe. Maybe they're adults there and then once they're in the park in their kids the other stuff and then they go see it. That could be it. But that seems fantastical on his on a surface itself off but but the reality is like Disney. They have to do something. So are you guys both flipping the idea we when gentle here. But like are you guys flipping the idea that the star wars galaxy ride at Disney is a catalyst for more showers growth or are you. Are you flipping dipping that I'm flipping. I'm flipping the idea that it's the catalyst I think I think Jefferson. I think it's a piece of the puzzle but it's like you know one fifth of puzzles like I think I think it will have an effect I think if you're going to Disney which however many millions of people go every year then you're going to check it out and it's going to help but I don't think it's not the thing right. The thing has to happen through film and Television and most likely more television than film and to go with that. It's something that needs to happen over time. And they need to improve the move it then it will not be a kettle right. Well I will also add that. I think that Disney needs. I'm not sure if I would have started Disney the applause. And here's The reason why I would leveraged like Youtube bread because there are more kids in the age group that they WanNa flip into youtube or into youtube in like that. Okay maybe maybe I could have started Disney plus but I would have I would have licensed to streaming services that we know that kids already active on like Youtube. Youtube has a huge well. Youtube general is mostly male driven Minna General looking to more than women but kids are huge on youtube. So like I would like I would licensed some of this. Some of these exclusive busy exclusive exclusives to places like Youtube instead of Netflix because youtube does like streaming and other stuff right and they host a ton of Disney stuff already so like. I don't think that I don't think that I wouldn't give the Netflix for sure. But I would give it to youtube and I would keep it in house because I feel like. There's something there a partnership w two we could drive that youth piece. I think they're all missing that right now. Did you say that I'm thinking like why doesn't anyone of these companies whether it's Hulu Netflix. Whoever just partner up with Youtube because you're right kids are all there? I mean my kid. You know it's hard to say. But like she knows all of them she knows she watched certain things on Hulu certain things on net flicks lakes a lot of things on youtube right but the other thing about galaxies edge. It is weird. How they launched it? They launched with one ride which is strange and everything you have heard about that right. It's like it's pretty good like the main appeal is that you get to be inside the Millennium Falcon but then when the actual experience of the ride I. I haven't been there yet. I went to Disney last time. It was about a year and a half ago. The avatar ride is so good that we all just came out of it like like hands down the best ride. I have been on at Disney in my life that was hit. It took star angry star tours. Right it's the same idea. We're kind of seeing stuff and you're moving around a little bit so you feel like you're living it but the scope of it is just bananas. I've been on it. It's pretty good. Yeah see all the way around you. Yeah Yeah Not totally but like the. I really don't know how they achieved it. Like the scope of what you're seeing cinematic. -Ly just feels immense. You're in this world. The creatures are gigantic and the space that you're in gigantic. You're on this planet and you really just feel it and you know instead of Star tors where you're taking a little dip. Let's say you you dip one hundred feet. You're dipping thousand on this Avatar right. It just takes everything you know like on steroids right. And so what I've heard from from the one ride at Galaxy's edge and again one ride you know that's not enough for kids right like I. We have episode episode eight where we had Brennan on from wired tired. He wrote up a big review of galaxies edge when it opened in things like everything he said it just kind of reinforced. What I already thought which is just like I want to live there? I just wanted to be there. I don't even care about the ride and that's fine that that makes sense right for kids. Yeah they're going to care about the ride right. They're going to walk around the back. Yeah this is cool. They're not living for two years of history that we have star wars right if they long right there there is a history anyway. This is just another Disney theme park right right so if there's not a ride there now they did open up a second ride or it's opening soon. That suppose that from everything I can tell. Oh is a much better ride than the one. That's already opened the Millennium Falcon Brad. It's more immersive more story to it. It's longer but it's more intense. They're we're doing more technologically advanced whereas the Millennium Falcon thing is kind of what you've seen before the rights. Yeah I have an extreme idea. Remember we talked about how extreme and changes are extreme gamble's extreme yet things like ended up is a risk versus reward. What I would do if I was Disney and I know you know people with my love it but I would turn half of magic kingdom into Star Wars Land Legit legit legit completely half of it? We're not I'm really trying to transition this new generation you make you make half of the park completely immersive. Yeah and the reason why you do that is because you're you're just like okay. Well I'M GONNA take you Russia like you. Don't just stick them in a museum like you know the African American Museum in DC. And just say we're going from slavery to to WHO Obama you dislike and also let's go see that again because kids are going to be. Bored are their fine but what you do is like you say okay. We're going to take you to the different planets like in there and like you make it cool for them. They touch things. They feel things they have to interact. They make choices they make choices they consciously choose to interact with star wars or they don't have to or the or instead of putting imagine kingdom them which I think is also stupid you put in Epcot which is supposed to be the future thank you. I mean come on the past future because that's what I've got it. All I'm saying is how are you not GonNa put a spaceship in the Epcot Center. Dissolves all gotta say I mean gene. The Millennium Falcon is literally a spaceship dwelt as he grew up on a farm like. Did you have a future right. There were no spacious. Here's the thing I think like you go in Epcot. Now it's like in twenty eighteen like yeah welcome to the future like okay or maybe or maybe like in twenty twenty three fifty like we're in Star Wars in Epcot which is supposed to be the future instead of these rides that about even like you walk into thought you're standing getting in line displaying on the screen it's not even in hd seven twenty. That's bad see everything you were saying earlier about being the future of now right like that. That is the thing about star wars. But it's like a double edge sword because that's what we love about. It is like the thing that people have. There's this like intent and sentimentality towards the past vision of the future. You know and that's and that's the thing about star wars when you talked about getting like what is the future. What's your future now like? That's what people that's what they are getting for Marvel. And that's what starrewards a lot of star wars fans of our generation. Don't WanNa see in Star Wars but that but you're right that's that's probably what kids do WanNa see right whereas we're like now. I kind of liked that late seventies aesthetic. You know it was so stark and it was just like it's brutal list. Art Form or the kind of art movement like that was the style of the time. And that's what people WANNA go back to and that's like everything epcot saw about all right so people don't like Epcot. It's for the reasons you said. All right people who love apricot for the same exact reason is that they like that old version of the future. That pure sentimentality. So this goes with Jonathan will say when it comes to business like you can't be sentimental and own a successful business like it like you see. Okay let me rephrase the path. You can't have killed if you have to. You can't have you can't run your business sentimentally in in order to be successful ballot check you. Can't it's true it's difficult but you but you can't peace out tedy Bruschi. I love you. But you're and slow quit before I fire how many people have an issue with that is true and thank you have. That was the first move in his career. Patriots career. I that was like that so that move upset. The locker room. Yeah it is like to the Walker could have been fracturous one week one week of turmoil it was. It was the same then. He went to buffalo and buffalo smashed. No Buffalo Smash the Patriots Act Smash. It made. That decision vision seem worse because he traded to buffalo the buffalo bills then they play Buffalo Buffalo crush the Patriots and the fans went wint Nas. Who was the resign? Hate their coach. Who went yeah that's right? It was the receiver that went to Denver from the Patriots. and Oh so so welker right I mean he like again. Another great player for the Patriots goes to Denver. Wins a super bowl with peyton manning. Right great players. He was playing at the time. But you might have been on the roster that it was in Miami Emme no he might have been. I think he moved on. I literally everywhere with all that was two thousand fifteen right day played in Denver. Yeah and and the Patriots lost in two thousand fifteen. That's when that's when that's when that's is that the year with Defense Gary Payton Manning. They won like thirty eight to twelve overshot on the panthers. Okay Yeah Yeah. He did get a ring he was on the roster. Okay so but that's my point right so I mean again. They'll check was willing to get rid of him even although he was still really good. Yeah right but he was like. It's time to move on because I need to remain in. Adjust JEKYLL now on. How is one of the early people that I it was like really adamant at the time in every yes crazy? That's the thing without getting rid of Welker you don't developmental in. That's what ballot check. Always does that. The thing you said about not being sentimentalists like look I love the guy to. I love what he did but if he's here this guy can't progress to what he's being like. I need the next wes. Welker Welker I need the front nine. You're writing one hundred however he did not get to keep. Jimmy's ooh again 'cause this bill because they'll check wanted to keep him right. He wanted to get rid of Brady to develop Jimmy d this day. It gets rid of Jimmy G.. Tom Brady put up five hundred plus yards in a super bowl. Throw on these guys they give up forty something points on defense right so in the time time that Jimmy G. was here right. Brady's been to three super bowls in a row and won two of them. It's all about the future man so the the question is as as some point though Bella checks going to say he's he's going to make an argument again to craft and say look. It's it's time to get rid of Brady. I know he's Great. I know he's good but we developed the next court. Unfortunately that's not going to happen. But here's say is done yet. But now he will be simpler. Saw Art vice on this podcast is is centered around common sense but the problem is is that in in a historical nature with with something. That's a a strong as Diana's legacy because that's what we're dealing with Star Wars that's what people small businesses deal with. But it's the legacy of their ego as opposed to the legacy so you see of their petition that they're in and the problem is that we're dealing with legacy. I think applying common sense to that is tough because of the emotionality analogy that goes along with it and the problem with that is is that how can you overcome a decision that's emotional national to to propel you forward and in Disney has to deal with they know automatically this twenty five million fans that they you have to deal with at the drop of a hat star wars fans right. I don't know what the exact number but we'll just I'm just saying for the sake of argument. Twenty five million so in and and not just twenty five million fans because it's probably fifty million fans who appreciate Star Wars the twenty five million fans who are super emotional about it. So how do so you make a decision that is based on legacy or in your business. How do you make a decision a decision where your ego is based off a legacy of what you think you are too? How do you overcome that to make it successful? Because I think small business have a hard time with this. Like yeah legitimately saying hang to themselves like okay. I think of here in my mind I want my business to get their How do you overcome this thought that you know this legacy thought or like this? This thought of superiority in your mind about where you are who you are all this other stuff and dizzy standpoint. How do they get over? This legacy thought is is a rhetorical. No mask so I personally think what you have to do is is is a take all the emotion out of it completely but be you have to. It's a uh back to like the grant carbone ten x idea right like you have a goal what you want to accomplish that goal ten exit now when you start to look at that goal because when you have basic growth all we wanNA grow ten percent or twenty percent this year. Okay you're going to be dealing with the same set of problems that you already have right but if you're trying to ten extra extra business let's say or in other words really just take it to the whole next level completely different stratosphere. You're dealing with a whole new set of problems that you've never had before. How how do we deal with these problems? Once you look at it in that light. It's like well Geez all the stuff that I'm going to be sentimental about is not going to fix those new problems so you just completely get rid of those but you by getting rid of the emotion thinking really really big. You realize the way we've been doing stuff is not going to work I. There's no room for me be sentimental because a half the deal with those bigger level problems and so you're saying what this unemotional approach though you're willing to you're willing to accept whatever is on the other side of that because what you're what you're accepting now is the twenty five million wars hands. That are like Bob Eiger you. You gotta go so this. This is where people are today. The council culture right. It's like okay. You made this decision about. We're taking star wars legacy here or the business owners were. We're taking our legacy here. You know you make this decision like I'm Kathleen you need. Your job is unsafe because of this decision like this is how people think people to the point. Well that's the thing so it's not always going to work. Its fourth down. You're playing the colds. Any throats Kevin faulk and he doesn't get the fourth down but as bill chick known for that play like specifically forth into is actually affectionately. Call two four thousand two. Yeah but like you see him specifically typically hurts my heart of course that it's well known what he makes a mistake. Yeah Yeah if mistakes mistakes. He's been so successful right but how many fourth-down has gone for and just completely all the other ones. Yeah Right. Actually what is known. He's known for lecture. I don't care what just just GonNa go for like. That's the type of football coaches and because of that other teams are like all we gotta comfortable these crazy schemes to like beat them. Throw Nick foles in the in the touchdown and stuff like that. So so you're applying this a small business that like you simply have to be you have to be unemotional about where you land on the other side of that like meaning xactly exactly like you've made the decision. I accept this decision for what it is moving forward and like whatever the whatever the by product what is of this decision not just that will deal with it. We're planning to deal with it because we know what's going to happen so so at some point this is want to be paying. Meaning you have to go down so you guys you guys except that that that this is probably the reality of Disney right now. which is that? They know there's a crossroads coming with this whole franchise ranch and to me. I think the problem is they didn't plan out the crossroads they they're just Kinda barreling towards it and it's like oh I guess we I guess we just realized that we just cut cut off twenty five million people. Do you think that. Do you think that they're out of the process right now or do you think it's it's coming or do you think we I think we. I think we missed it already. See I think think we're at I think we have. I think they have a bye week right now. I think they just Kinda look. They've made a ton of money. They've put out four movies. Three three of them were super successful at the box office. Like over billion dollars. Each force awakens was two billion so again we talk about it internally. Solo Solo failure in terms of Star Wars movie success for pretty much. Anybody else too. So I mean they're like at least three out of four in terms of financial success with these movies but they haven't you know it's a little bit overblown to think that they failed in some way yes they have upset some people with certain decisions. Certain movies people didn't unlike but they're still doing pretty well. And maybe it's because of that that they're actually getting a little breather right now. They actually we talked about in our last episode to Jeff Right that. They've said they're not really going to announce anything about the plan going. Forward until the the rise of skywalker. It comes out and the smoke a little bit you know. They got the man to Laurie if anything. They're kind of doing too much right now. But that gives them a little bit of a breather where they're just like all right reno. Relax things are fine. I think that's brilliant. So would you say that. They're in there within the margin of error right now or they. I would say that that they are right now. But if the rise of skywalker creates a pattern of dislike then. We're in trouble right that to me downright just needs in trouble because from two out of five to four three hundred four three four five we were dealing with house money right so it's like okay. Yeah we we. We didn't do as well as we thought we would. Right right but the next one if it doesn't reach expectations again Dan because people are already looking at galaxies edges of failure. Yeah right it's not bringing in the people or the attendance that they thought it would bring. That's why they've already reported losses losses For this quarter Star Wars I mean Disney has Specifically with adventure. So yes if they create a pattern of making mistakes then people will jumped ship right now. They're like okay. You still got the house money we still believe in you guys can still figure it out. And there's still enough of people out there who care about star wars regardless of what you guys do so. So here's one thing that I think we always talk about. Jonathan is is measuring and tracking in assessing your business. And we were it is in so. Don't be surprised if you're a star wars fan. I think to start to see a lot of now. I just saw this earlier today today or yesterday Disney is giving a superfan like a thousand dollars to watch thirty Disney movies in thirty days or something like that. I saw that promotion and but I would say. Don't be surprised if you all of a sudden the amount of Disney surveys regarding star wars escalates tenfold. Like if you start to see like their assess because they're trying to assess the business even more so I'm sure I guarantee you in. Maybe they're doing this now and I don't know but I would. I would assume assume that I would start seeing a ton much a ton more assessment of their star Wars brand right now. Yeah it's happening in. We talked about that too in the last episode. They had the guys is that made a quiet place. Jonkers Dusky. Yeah not him. It was like the two guys who wrote it or something that movie. Yeah is he derided. They brought those those guys in. Oh I thought he was executive producer. Yeah he was involved. Yeah he was he was involved but I know he's not one of the ones that they brought in brought those guys in and I it was Kinda like ooh maybe they're gonNA give those guys. TV show or movie or something. Those guys left. Apparently nothing was really solidified there and they said it was really a consultation and according to them it was what do you think basically what do you think people WanNa see from star wars going forward. It's exactly what you're talking about is just kind of like you know generally speaking right. What direction should we be going from here on out? which that's why I think again? You're kind of at a bye week. You're three and one guys are injured. I heard you kind of healing up a little bit. You got some time to kind of regroup and think about what you WANNA do for the rest of the season. And they're bringing these people in and one of those moves was after that because that actually happened maybe a month and a half ago having a little a little while ago then comes to think about Kevin Vike right and that kind of makes sense. It's you know whether or not that was that came from those guys. They're probably already thinking it because of the relationship there but you sound like you're connecting the dots here. I don't know man. It's hard not to right like this exact thing that you're talking about rights figure out. What is that? What do people want from it? See the interesting thing about the last Jedi I is that it's it's one thing in Jaffna I've talked about this. The one thing we definitely agree on about the last Jedi is that you can write a really good story but is it what what people want to see from those characters so one thing we agree on is like if that movie had been made and that character was not luke skywalker but somebody else did the same thing right right same exact story but not those characters people would love it because I love that movie. I love the story I think that story has a complete arc mark and I think that it starts off threads and then delivers on those threads later in the movie. But it's like yeah but that's not what a lot of people feel. That's not what I think. Luke skywalker should be doing right right right. So it's one thing to to tell a good story within a movie in a in a vacuum but you know it's another thing for the direction fraction of the franchise right and is that fundamentally what I think should be happening in a star wars movie or what a Star Wars movie should be about. Is it a good film. Yes is it a good star wars. That's it's more subjective so so Jonathan have another question and we're gonNA probably bring you guys back on the show. I think I think we need a repeat appear right because is there one thing we can agree on though we all want to see the keys loose again down for two in the top of the night so art thought is that does your date our program and so so I thought is does it have to be. You can always celebrate a Yankee should you. That should there be a Thanos it later. We're going to frame this up for. I have another question for going desert. Does there need to be a super figure in Star Wars. That is ethically crazy crazy villain. That's the most powerful we've ever seen and there's a need to be jet that we don't know about that is the freaking captain marvel all with the powers that comes in that issues like the Super San. Shut down This is like here. We go who per se Djeddai to light rampant. Like we're talking like world in like like or even or even or even a pocket made over. And I gotta do or even a pot or even apocalyptic jet I save your like the world is beating the universe so bad everything so messed up. Now we're apocalyptic it is one that we don't know about this like crazy in the in the ether somewhere and then connect the dots somewhere like that another show. How deep going that right now but I have one question folds into your question? Which is Mike A? You just had a reaction to watching the first trailer for the riser skywalk and it was at the end. Where where you hear here the laugh and you say oh that's poverty? Yeah do you think bringing in Palestine was emotional response. And does it hearken hearken back to hey we need the super amazing villain to come back to route all of the legacy fans into the franchise but it also grabbed these new friends and help them understand. Why Ray needs to be so powerful and go with that are? I've already got my my answer to your question about which they should bring in right mace. Windu okay I mean that's just that's easy because the Samuel L. Jackson all now we're talking hope fiction I said Save is how you supposed to be Kazaa say force again say it again as you double d you right so anyway so so these are good questions. We'll have to continue this later. But so I think I think that the fact that we're having this conversation means that the laugh the Internet trailer is basically what we're talking about now is that obviously they're on the same line of thought is helping the right person to bring back could it. Should you too have been like Darth vader or prince or somebody new to me. You Talk new-generation I I want somebody someone new. Yeah I agree I do so in a new electrical however they cook the cook but they could play. John Millennial all well technically I am. They could play it though where where that penalty laugh is not necessarily help a team but as something in the ether of evil which I think would be a great the idea that they could make a jump off probably laugh probably would be. But that's not what James is getting straight up. Bring palpitation back as Judas. It is all about centers like did you when you got killed in a blasted off the out of the room. Do you know how did you land in the supermarket and survive something like we're have you been this whole time on our podcast. I'm just like you know Jeff and I will come up with some idea that you know what that's a great idea. And that's why it's not gonNA happen. The Star Wars. But the thing that you said I think they do need a big bad like that but I think they need the opposite in terms of. I think the problem is like the all powerful people didn't actually like the way. Captain Marvel was endgame. No because it was just like all right. You have all this stuff and you're building the rock paper scissors rules of all these different superheroes right like this person I can do. This person can do that here. The strength of their limitations. And then you get nerves by captain marvel who just shows up and turns everything too much so so I think what you need from and I think what actually the millennial generation wants to see. They're very averse to this idea of all powerful well and also also jess good and bad as a to religious right. Maybe it's too religious. Maybe it's too you know patriarchy. Whatever kind of hierarchy that this you know that there's this objection to alright? They don't WanNa see this clear dividing line between good and bad they want everything to be nuance and everything's gray and that's why you see like broke. One is as I've seen in my personal experience. A lot of millennials do like rogue one because it's like oh the rebellion. They're not so good they do bad things to and the bad guys you know they kind of have a point which is kind of what you were saying about that so I think if anything they want to see more flawed Jeddah right. They don't WanNa see like like the Uber Jet. I who is morally squeaky clean and in terms like physically all-powerful. We don't we don't WanNa see a jet neither recycles though. I'm sorry so in with this is that I would like to see. I would like to see. People will not like this at all. Aw I would like to see evil win because that would to me. We'll be that made avengers that the fact that that'd be perfect that evil one even if we'll materially one when infinity were ended I looked at my daughter and I just started cracking up when Thanos at their snapped his fingers killed half of everything in the universe and then sat down and smiled and the screen. When black you were there Jeff? I started laughing and Mike. You got mad at me. She's just like his. His daughter was literally mad. Add at him for enjoying that moment she likes. She didn't actually cry but she was about to. And it was like dating it made her mad man. Oh she's that she's not happy so to me. Just imagine a final shot of a rebuilt death star literally killing all planets. Yes that would be dope dipping it all right now. That is barbecue sauce. What we had a great show? This is a long one. Everyone up their the job that wrote me a note like we got in the show we have to land the millennial fout outcome. I hope you're driving to California when you're listening to this guy's is we so much appreciate you guys coming on. Thank you the show. Thank you for the Scotch. Yeah Noah's great appreciate it. I think that there's a lot of business lessons. We talk a lot of Star Wars. I want to and I think that if a person's patient with the fogcast they'll they'll they'll they'll kind of work through just walk with US people that's it you know But until the next time the skywalk where you guys were skywalk social. Yeah you can find the skywalk. Sky Is an skywalker. You Cook in Spelled W. O. K.. On Apple PODCASTS. spotify the Skywalk just laughing gets jeff usually do this right and then jeff slow jams one part of it which we probably won't be able to your show slow Jason. Let's see what is the skywalk twitter at the skywalk facebook. The skywalk and tell us about Jeffrey. Well listen I know we're in different show but I'm still GONNA slow jam. It's called Star Wars over coffee pot automatic DACA. Thank you guys in Jonathan a gray show for us. Where can people find? It was finest on facebook dot com slash. PODCAST instagram The common sense podcast twitter since podcasts at C. E. N. T. S. in our show email info at commonsense podcasts dot com. And you can also find us on apple podcasts spotify stitcher Google music player. FM soon to be hopefully Pandora. We submitted our podcast there. We're waiting for if you like your hers. That's right if you like what you heard. Today we will five stars man five hundred review by. Don't get to leave even if you hate just review us. We want the Reviews Review County right but anyways is crossover episode Jonathan. This this is just one episode crossover event that also going to be featured on the skywalk. I've only have one word for it was that Great great man. I was GONNA kill us today. I got nine point. He definitely racked up. Was Your era point. Four nine point three. I don't can we just give me a second. Can I get the Mario Coin Sounder. Paul Gimme all the coins. I one Thank you give me give you all the points. Jonathan went today off now. We know he's paying. That dude definitely pain that Dude Jonathan out. We'll see we'll see Z.. We'll see who wants wants together and catch the other half of this crossover on the Skywalk episode ninety-five Nice leading up. And you guys have shows leading up. I heard until the big show. Big Sky walkable becomes out right. Yeah the plan is right now that will be doing a mandatory pre game show. We'll be doing men DELOREAN in post game shows for some of the episodes every single one too many. But we'll definitely do one for the first episode episode ninety nine shouldn't be The final Skywalker Saga Film pre-game show. It'll be ninety nine pre-game show for the riser Skywalker and then episode. One hundred hundred hundred the reaction to the rise of Scott don't and we will finally put an end point. We actually started our podcast because because of the trailer for the Force Awakens ending it with the Skywalker Saga from then on. Sky's the limit in the fogcast. No no

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Star Wars, The Mandalorian, Star Trek 4, Joker 2 and Watchmen

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Star Wars, The Mandalorian, Star Trek 4, Joker 2 and Watchmen

"Hello everyone and welcome to slash home daily for Wednesday November twentieth. Two Thousand Nineteen. Today's episode. We're in touch with the latest film and TV news in our feature presentation. We're GONNA have some word from Damon Lindelof. I'm answering all our burning questions about the Robert Redford administration in watchman. You WanNa not miss that. This is Islamism editor in chief. Peter SURATA during his podcast. Sasha we can editor Brennaman. Hey let's me in writer Christy Evangelista. Hello folks looks okay so we have a bunch of news to get into a lot of star wars. Let's start off on the other side of the galaxy. Lewis started off with Star Trek yesterday. I guess on the podcast you guys were talking about. How paramount doesn't WanNa take risks anymore and You know paranoid has star Trek this franchise Dude Abrahams was toying with the idea of doing another star Trek. Does it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Also doesn't look like winter. You know it's going to take that home anytime soon. But they have found a new captain of the Enterprise. Chris Chris who is it. It's me sorry everyone. I'm leaving my post direct star Trek for it. It's a bird. It is Noah no one holly who directed Lucy in the sky which got terrible reviews and bombed but he also created the the FX series Fargo based on the film and he directed created legion. So I guess based on the strengths of those two shows and not is the feature debut. He's being handed the Star Trek Franchise. I never saw it. Listen this guy. Did either of you see family. I actually don't even realize it came out. I have yet to see it. I was going to see it at tiff and then everyone said it was awful so I didn't go out of my way. I Love Fargo. I think if I was going to list the top ten TV shows of the last decade which may have to do for this podcast That I think Fargo would be up there for me And Wall Wall. I didn't I didn't continue on with legion. I did admire the style and just how bold an interesting What Noah brought thought that series so I mean bringing J.J? Abrams into Star Trek was kind of a bold choice at the time Now it seems obvious because you know he's moved on to Star Wars What do you guys think of a holiday with Star Trek like like? He's a good choice. I mean possibly. It's taken to doing a TV. Show like Fargo Legion is much different than doing a film franchise like like Star Trek I think maybe he has the right I don't know style for maybe to dig into maybe the weirder side of star Star Trek but I don't know it's it's unclear. Chris do you have any interest in the Hallway Star Trek movie. I don't know I mean to be to affair. I had no interest in that J.J. Abrams Star Trek movie. Either and then I really liked that first film so you know. I'm willing to be surprised. I A- At this point I would say no but if it turns out to be good I'll be happy. Not Calling the Star Trek forward. Does that mean that there's going to be a continuation of that J.J. Abrams universe verse. Yes so if you haven't been keeping up with what's going on out there listeners. At one point S J Clarkson was going going to direct the fish the previous version of star Trek for which was going to bring back Chris Hemsworth as Chris Pines character's father Captain Kirk father. We saw Chris. Hemsworth in the in the J.J. Abrams trek per prologue. And then right as things were gearing up both Hemsworth and pine walked off the project citing on salary negotiations they. They weren't getting pay what they wanted to get paid. And we'll awhile later. Hemsworth also said he did not like the script so their departures especially pines. Since he's the lead of the the this this film franchise but that project on hold at which points essays Clarkson left and it just seemed like star trek four was dead but now it's apparently back back on track and according to this is supposed to be a continuation of the Chris. Pine Zachary Quinto Etcetera Etcetera crew. So I guess. They worked something out with Chris trying to bring him back They don't mention anything about it. So I'm guessing that idea is dead at this point so I guess we're going to get like a whole new story. I feel like if you have no a hallway. INVOLVED YOU'RE NOT GONNA get traditional space adventure film feel like it has to do with multi versus and weird. We we implant like it's going to be different. I mean they already built in the alternate timeline. And stuff ended his franchise. He definitely has stuff to play around with their. Okay ed goods Take a trip to the other side of the galaxy to place far far away in a long time ago. Let's talk about Star Wars There's been a lot of star wars talking on this podcast. I know yesterday But it it just all hitting at the same time Disney with their handling of the mandatory and it's interesting because that first episode has a big reveal at the end of the episode and that big reveal is basically the the plot of the series aries. So the the whole APP said it's kind of like a Prequel to what the series is about in that reveal for the first week everybody was like let's keep it the secret. Let's not try to spoil people because you know there are large international audience that has not seen this series but Disney has decided that this is no longer spoiler so breadwinner yes so Obviously if you haven't seen them into Laura and you should go away for a little a bit But at the end of the man to Laurean we are introduced to a character that fans have come to call baby yoga because it is a very very small childlike version of the character. Yoda from Star Wars. But iota has not been designated as a certain kind of species by anybody Responsible for creating rating star Wars Canon yet. At least as far as we know for sure So that's what were referring to this character as baby oda he's the The asset that the man delorean was tasked with finding as kind of this Shady underground job and it's who I g eleven was also after and as we learned in the second episode there's some other bounty hunters who who are also after it so a lot of people apparently want this little guy And the introduction. Joan was a huge surprise because it hadn't leaked that the character was going to be A younger sort of Internet version of Yoda's creature species We we heard a while back that this was going to be a plot element but but not that this character was going to be like this and so now that it's been revealed and this character is accompanying the man delorean It's a you know a part of the show that we kind of need to talk about in the open and thankfully the official star wars social media count on twitter basically posted an image and a clear reference to the character kind of making it open season to be able to talk about it in the open because for a while a lot of people are being pretty respectful about not spoiling it because it was the the final reveal at that episode and they didn't want to spoil it for anybody People that this kind of hurts the most unfortunately are overseas watchers who don't even have access to Disney plus yet So it'd be kind of difficult for them to navigate the Internet the Internet and see things about the mandatory and without learning about this character detail but at the end of the day while he's a cool thing to discover for yourself at the end of that first episode it's a very basic part of the plot. And so the the more intriguing mystery is where where this came from Now why people are after and all this kind of stuff so while it is a bit of a spoiler. It's it's maybe not as big a deal. Yeah do you think like people that are seeing these images do you think like they think could think it's a big spoiler because they actually think it's Yoda potentially you know I think maybe it's just the the reveal reveal of that that a character like that is in the in the series is also a spoiler. You know there's just things that certain people don't WanNa know about but it's a difficult thing of trying to make everybody happy be and you know certain people don't even WanNa know the most basic of details about something before they watch it and unfortunately we can't. Yeah the time. Yeah running running from here on out our coverage we may be opened the referencing this character and headlines and using image in On the front page but We will keep spoilers About a story in that regard to Within the article itself Cast Butler phobia is real especially in two thousand nineteen and the the way that we the line that we have decided on the site to handle. It is if something's in the marketing we can openly discuss it because Disney and the filmmakers are putting it out there there So I think that's the line that we have to die on at this point. Now that there is stuff and trailers sometimes studios go too far in show too much and luckily we get early. Screenings we We know stuff that we don't report on that helps inform what we cover and how we cover it and thankfully there's Times that we won't you know. Cover the things that are in the marketing because we know something about it But I that's just how we're going to do it. Sadly them trying to keep baby. Yoda secret might prevent us from getting any Babe B.. Yoda plush is or fun codes or you you know I want all the baby Yoda things Brab. Oh believe me I do too but because they kept it secret. Unfortunately it doesn't look like we'll get any merchandise featuring the character before Christmas Lucasfilm and Disney were very cooperative with Jon favreau wanting to keep this a secret it which meant toiling this back from merchandising and all the various companies you make merchandise tied to movies and whatnot usually find out a lot of details long before The general public does even before a trailer is out or anything like that and if they were going to make merchandise They would have had to have found out about this months ago. So unfortunately that means they're probably won't be any time to streamline a toy to production just because of all the hoops to jump through to test and get it approved and manufacturer manufacturer and sitting around and all that jazz but either way on sure fans will be happy to get their hands on a toy version of this character whenever it becomes available. Did they make the right decision. Brad because I feel like Disney could be sweeping up not that they need more money but they are losing out on so much money right now not having those baby. Yoda Toy's available AH stores. I mean sure that they're missing out on it now but they'll get it as soon as it comes out like it's not like someone's going to be like well. This didn't come out at Christmas so I'm not buying this ever sir. You don't time can go by and like our interest in a BB. Yoda merchandise can Wayne. I mean this guy is adorable and cute. And unless unless you know that changes and George Lucas turns him into something else in a special edition of the mandatory and I don't think that's going to be a problem. Yeah okay A yesterday I was way. That's Ben hosts. The podcasts and I was at this event that was held at the Porsche experienced center in Los Angeles. Something I didn't even know existed existed but they were holding a women of Lucasfilm. What drives panel and This is Porsche has a deal with Disney Lucasfilm. Doug Chiang that the concept designer created a new spacecraft along with Porsche out. It's ridiculous Doug Chiang who's not a woman WHO's man but they're posting this panel about women. It's it's all very confusing. Basically it was. There's a Lotta people including everyone from the president of Lucasfilm Kathleen Kennedy to the second unit director of rise of skywalker to Some executives the story grew people director of development Michelle who's the producer and s vp of action and development and production To Debra Child the director of the mandatory in upcoming Obi one series and The the conversation was really good It was a lot about the trials and tribulations of being female filmmaker in Hollywood these days and especially trying to make big skill you know sci-fi Five Star Wars films and TV shows and it was very interesting Not a lot of stuff that we would normally cover on the site. But at one point the new technology acknowledgee used in the middle of Orient got brought up and that took like fifteen to twenty minutes sidetrack in the conversation as everybody on stage gushed at this new technology Collagen so I wanted to share some of the quotes here From from this conversation because this is interesting like you know. We had heard all throughout the production of the Mandalay worrying or I had heard that like they were using this very high tech game changing technology to film the show. And I think even Brad Right. I wouldn't want when we're talking about the second episode. IV Talking with you and I was like I. I've watched these episodes multiple times each and I'm looking at the backgrounds and I can't tell that they're they're using anything untraditional. It looks like they're in rail places and whatever So anyways here is some quotes from that. Kathleen Kennedy said that her and Jon Favreau went into Disney and said this is something that we would want to try and they said what exactly is it and we said we're not exactly sure we have no idea what this is going to cost. And we have never built anything with the technology and She basically revealed that this technology is it's called stagecraft That's the name that Iowa has given a an it's basically a projection system on screens in the real innovation. Is that when you move the camera inside the space the parallel exchanges. So suddenly you're in an environment that actually begins to behave in the same way it wouldn't actual three D. environment like the one we are in today. She went on to say that. What this means is quote if you want a big establishing shot in Iceland you you don't want to take seven hundred people spent four months prepping a set because you only want to do this tablet shot and with this you can bring back everything to shoot interiors on stage that becomes very meaningful and big huge projects and small projects so the interesting thing with the mandatory in the fact that we tested the technology inside of television and not on the big screen was the way we felt that we could take a big risk and not a giant risk It was really oh she. He also told the story that she brought an executive from Walt Disney Company. Down to the production because You know it's really complicated thing to describe like they have not released any video footage of what this whole system looks like so i. I'm very interested to see what it looks like. But I guess one of the executives in Walt Disney became became down the production and to check it out and see how has working in quote this is a quote from Kathleen Kennedy and he stepped in and he looked around and said John. I thought you weren't going to build anything. And he had no idea he was standing on a virtual set. That's how unbelievable it is She did go on to explain that. This technology can basically bring any place in the world or create any environment in the world and put in sound stage but it's not easy easy quote. This really requires a filmmaker like deb. Who plans does not some somebody? Who's winging it you absolutely need to plan ahead because an in essence what you're doing is you're taking a lot of post production in you're putting in pre production unquote so you can read my whole article as a ton? More quotes explains means more about what this technology is what what can be done with it and Deborah Chow explains that she might be using it on the OB ONE TV series but it really seems seems like a game changer to me because now they you don't have to travel to the desert of wherever to get you know to bassist shot shot. You can just though Mitt in a warehouse in Manhattan Beach Seems like you would be -CCOMPLISH bigger scope things on a much lower budget a jet and Also there's some interesting talk there I'm not a big techie. I don't really know How things are made like led panels but the the panels on here the led's Kathleen Kennedy talks about how they have to actually grow these crystals in the process of like putting them together? And how like. It's so complicated. And so it it takes so many years to try to create the stuff that is used in the second. It's very interesting. I think people might be interested in that but Brad now that you've occurred all this I know you've you've seen both episodes of our like. Are you amazed because this is also they clarified. On rogue one in Solo they use screens around spaceships to give light in shadows onto the performers but those screens were CG doubt the stuff stuff that we are seeing on screen in the Laurien is the screens. We are seeing the screens on screen. Like those like we're not seeing like you know c g virginal like that's done after the fact. Yeah that's kind of mind blowing to me and I really want to kind of witness it in person in like be on a set and see what it's like like especially especially if somebody walked onto a set and looked around and thought it was an actual set that was built around them I'd really like to see what this looks like an action so i. I hope that they released a feature at at some point. That shows how they did it. Yeah I know it's Sunday it's a few years back I love X lab was there and they had this demo that that did you end up in the spread. Read the No. I need to do that. I I don't think it's a NANCE. Yeah you step into this room and it had projections on all sides and it was just projections. Laser projectors electors but I had like these three glasses I put on the head. Motion Control Balls on them. Basically the camera tract where I was in the room and I was intact Wayne and there are two in C. Three Po and Whatever and as I moved around the projections changed and I really felt like I was in a different like even more so it felt way like I'd say like one hundred times more incredible than the are feels in VR fields? Kind of incredible So I'm wondering if it kind of feels like that or not but Yeah I WANNA see how this is done. I Know Jon. FAVREAU is one of the filmmakers that likes to use this advanced technology. But he doesn't like to show it until after the fact he wants viewers to you know be immersed in the story and not be thinking talking about how how it was made the gidgets and gadgets that were were used to create so hopefully after the eight episodes air. The we'll we'll get some look at the technology used to create the show but Okay let's move out. Kathleen Kennedy is also Dean during the press tour for star wars the rise of Skywalker I walker and she has revealed a little bit on the future of Star Wars when we might expect the next star wars movie and what role. Jon Favreau may play in the future future of the series presswood. We now right so Kathleen Kennedy did an interview with rolling stone. It's a pretty in depth interview. You should definitely check it out. And and she she goes into a lot of stuff but One of the things. We're most concerned with here. Is they ask her point blank. Do you know what the next Star Star Wars movie is going to be after the rise skywalker and she says no quote no. We've got various things. We're looking at and various ways in which we can beginner. Not and she has quit was a little longer but it boils down to. She Says No At the same time T. H. R. published a separate report And this is one of those Anonymous source things so take it with a grain of salt but it comes from insiders saying that there's actually actually a star wars movie already on the dock for twenty twenty two and if that's true I would have to imagine. Kathleen Kennedy. Does you know what's next and and so but Beyond that it's also reported that Jon favreau is going to have a a big part to play in the future of of Star Wars. In general Dave felonious also going to have a big part to play so while we don't know what they're doing when we do know that they're going to be involved with a lot of star wars stuff in the future and the other thing is teach our says we'll we'll know what the deal is with at this twenty twenty two star wars film by January. So I guess they're waiting for the the rise skywalker GONNA come out. And they want all focused beyond that and then once that's out we're finally going to learn whatever is going to happen next. Do you think that she's just being cagey she. Does you think it's just that that she he just wants to keep the focus on rises skywalker. Now I I definitely think it's like a PR thing she doesn't WanNa and that makes sense. I mean that movie isn't even out yet I it seems premature to be immediately like What comes next? She wants the focus to be on rise skywalker as you know she should since. That's that's their next big thing. So I I I think it makes sense for her to downplay it I don't want I don't think she's like lying per se. I do think you know there's a bunch of moving pieces. We don't know a lot about behind ride the scenes but if T- HR is to be believed will know soon enough what is going on here announce it now they have to fire the director sooner and replace it with the bird. Okay Moving on stock J J Abrams He's been I'm doing some press for Star Wars ride the skywalker and he's talked a little bit about Carrie Fisher's death and how that affected this final film in the Skywalker Saga Brad Weena. Well so Carrie Fisher passed away unfortunately A couple years ago so she wasn't able to shoot any new scenes further skywalker but we had already heard. I heard that they Jada Abrahams was able to utilize footage. That was shot From the force awakens to basically create new scenes with actual the footage of Carrie Fisher that they were able to repurpose for this movie and apparently the the footage that they have which will be around eight minutes of footage according to Carrie. Fisher's brother Todd Fisher Is enough that they didn't really didn't have an impact on this story that they would have told for. General Leo or Ghana had Carrie Very Fisher Not passed away So Abrahams said quote. There seems we're interacting with other characters. In a way that is uncanny. Hopefully if it works it will be an invisible thing and if you didn't know you would never know but we got to tell the story That layer that we would've told head Carey lived and that's kind of incredible And this it's kind interesting because it means that there was probably a pretty big change regarding layers role in this movie compared to whatever Contra Varo endear connelly had planned because after Carrie Fisher had passed away Colin Farrell had said that her death basically caused them to start over from scratch And do you something completely different than than initially planned and I wonder if that maybe issue with something that caused the eventual creative friction between Lucasfilm and what Travolta Oh and Connolly wanted to do or had planned and maybe Abrahams was able to figure out how to do something with Leonid still worked For the story that they wanted to tell On the store you talked yesterday about how Derek in calling got a story by credit and that probably means that the you know the loose bits of the story have remained the same skeleton of the story so like maybe they were able to save more of that original draft. I'm sure I'm sure some of what did I I like. I said yesterday's episode. I feel like there's probably just some general brushstrokes that worked simply because of what Abrams wanted to do. Lining up. Maybe the ideas that Travolta uh-huh had already so you know like unfortunately like I said it seems like we might never find that out but it's interesting to hear that Abrahams didn't really feel like he was hindered at all by not having having Carrie Fisher present. I think it's a little bit ingenuous disingenuous to say that this film is the same story that would come out before her death. Because I feel like as much as you can keep her in you can save the footage and you can keep princess or General Leia. Whatever you want to call her In the story and she's training ray or whatever she's doing you know that there was probably going to be confrontation between her and Kyle and there's no way to do that with the footage they have right. I mean I don't know I mean how does a confrontation between lay and Kylo. Hello work on. You mean that they would have fought or they would have just had a moment where they'd like talk to each other. I don't know I feel like they had to come face to face. I feel like this was going to be her movie right right and I don't know you know the first movie. Han came face to face with them. second movie luke. Kind of case with I hello using force projection. I feel like this movie was GonNa lead up to her confrontation with her her son but I don't know maybe maybe maybe that is in there. I don't know I really don't know Okay let's talk about our last story for today. And that is a joker sequel in the works and todd does might also be planning yet. Another other DC character origin movie. Chris what do we know so. This is a three pronged story so early this morning news broke From not hr the Hollywood reporter saying that not only is there a joker sequel in the works. which kind of makes sense? Even though I don't think the movie calls for it but the movie he made a billion dollars a huge hit. It's probably GonNa get an Oscar nomination so their reports stated that not only is there a joker sequel in the works with Todd Phillips. It's tough Phillips also. Went to Warner Brothers chairman. Toby Emmerich and pitched him on this idea of making a whole bunch of DC character origin origin movies in the same style as joker and Toby Emmerick didn't like the idea of a bunch of movies but he agreed to at least one so that was the initial the report. A few hours later deadline had a report of their own stating at there's not a joker sequel in the works and there is not another DC movie in the works from Todd Phillips and then variety updated something themselves and they a added that while the DC separate DC origin. Movie isn't happening. There definitely is talk of jokers equals and they sort of split split the difference. They're saying the story was partially correct but not entirely correct. So this all boils down to. I have no idea what's happening. So is there a joker sequel. I came from from the sound of it from varieties report and I tend to think variety is probably the most accurate of all three of these Outlets it sounds to me like there's definitely talk of a joker sequel and I definitely believe that the movies a huge it like I said so. I'm sure one brothers has definitely had a meeting or two with Todd Phillips about doing another another joker movie but beyond that it doesn't sound like it's official yet it doesn't sound like everyone has signed on yet there's no script in the works yet and they're definitely currently does not seem to be a separate origin story for another DC character in the works interesting. What do you make of us? Do you think you have to make a joke. I think that's inevitable. But do you think one brothers is GonNa give Todd Phillips more room to play in the DC universe. I'm personally just hoping that they just do a similar version of this movie but said it in Thailand What that's a hangover to Joe? Yeah I I kind of forgot hangover to even happen so yeah it was a thing that was just like hanging over one but it was in Thailand. Okay let's move on to our feature presentation I think we gotta go quicker with us and we normally do because we are running out of time but Chris you got to speak to Damon Lindelof. The executive producer of watchmen. And you. You know you asked only the important questions and the questions were all revolving around Robert Redford's administration. So what did you find out yes so I urge everyone to go to slash dot com and and read this because it's a very lengthy Report and Damon. Lindelof answers are very amusing. They're they're all in character. Within the watchmen in universe so basically he was answering as if he was someone. Working within the REDFORD administration giving us the scoop on Robert Redford's presidency and I'm not going to run through them all because there's a lot of stuff in here but just it's it was just amusing in general because like I said this is all played completely straight as if it's a serious is thing but it's obviously not and some fun facts Robert REDFORD's current vice president is Joe Biden but at one point Jesse Ventura Laura. The wrestler actor turned politician was his VP. But then he died under mysterious circumstances. I guess applying murdered on top of that he we learned that some form of the universe exists. In the watchmen. Universe I but much. Like the watchmen comic. Since people don't aren't impressed with superheroes suck superheroes exist. They're all pirate movies so it's like an entire pirates hiring cinematic universe that's just like the NCAA and features cast members from the NCAA Scarlett Johansson. And then there's like an entire list of who starred in what Robert Redford movies. The Real Rob Bradford stir starting in our world but who who took them over at robber ever became president president in the universe so it was very amusing. I'm very thankful to Dame Lindell offer for indulging this very silly idea and taking taking it very seriously and giving us a lot of background INFO on the the fictional. Robert Redford watchmen presidency. And this just goes to show that he's really thought this all out on a really nerdy level. He's he's actually broken his day on as to how this presidency works out even though he never actually been see it in the show now I just love the idea that even Lindelof is taking out time out of his important schedule his day to answer. You know what. What would happen to Sundance of rubber adverts? Now president right exactly it's crazy so yeah check that out the link to that and this is in the show notes as well as links to all the stories mention on today's podcast. This podcast daily is published. Every weekend. itunes Google overcast. spotify all the popular podcast. Please feel free to send your feedback. Questions comes concerns to us at Peter Adt COM and please Rayton view this podcast and I tuned to tell your friends spread the word. It will see you tomorrow.

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So Long, Sequel Trilogy? // #71

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So Long, Sequel Trilogy? // #71

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The four K. theatrical release of the Empire strikes back has been canceled though the standard version is still shed to run in cinemas depending on theatre opening dates. And the full voice cost for the doctor Africa. Audio drama has been officially revealed. Hi this is Alex. Damon from star. Wars explained, and you're listening to star wars sessions probably Britain's greatest. Star Wars podcast. This week we thought we'd shake things up a little bit and garbage topical. Lopate HOOPLA going around on the Internet who to thought Star Wars Famine in uproar, but it does happen sometimes, and we thought this week we touched upon it in a historic by step for the sessions, but we're GonNa have fun doing this and the question. We're asking these will start. What was half different time? This mobile rumors going around saying that Lucas. Film and Disney is contemplating the possibility of De, canonizing the sequel trilogy, which is likely to coincide with the end of Kathleen Kennedy's leadership so again, no people out there now listening thinking, what are these guys doing? But now it's basically and opens up the floor for a discussion, so luke. was He thinking about this? My. There's been a law stuff going around the Internet. Chitchat in about timeline stuff in star wars. Okay, there's been an abundance of youtube videos I think it. was sourced from this one youtube channel right which I can't even mention. The name of the name is Hilarious, but. Is Not. Family friendly guys is not quite family friendly. Is Joke style though and. One thing Siro. Is, I think from the get go on us. How you my opinion. I don't think this is true. Okay straight up and I feel a lot less set the set the bar right. I think this is a load of tosh right. There's these people that sign these youtube videos. Yeah, the Oh. You're not Kathleen Kennedy Yeah right so what she did. Yeah, she told her assistant email. Just the females of the company. Yeah, just her inner circle females. They said by the white. Yeah, WE'RE GONNA. Make on new. We're GONNA. Make a different company and it's only going to be female centric. At that point, guys. That point I checked out. Because these people they might great content. Yeah, it might not be accurate content, but is lying. It's it's Walmart. It's well-produced. It's pretty funny. It's going to serve a purpose for a special kind of audience riot. Guys. Manned Nashes not how corporations what? mainly. Blossomed into this. Literally I'm listening to this on like man these guys. These guys must not work like an office. All offer, big company. Right they must just do because like that is so detached from reality of how things work. It just doesn't work like that. He would send emails to women right. That's just it just that would not go down. Well in a company is owned by Disney and that is a publicly traded company. This stuff just doesn't happen. It doesn't happen crazy. Stuff happens Roy, and if and if Kathy is going to do something like that isn't going to be from a flip, an email is going to be. In a different way right so I'm sitting the standard there. However! My boy annoyed we. We give our opinions on stuff and I'd like to think my boy a pre fab with most stuff. I think so. We're wearing the ever on facebook. We respect the boundaries as well look. There may be people who believe this who want this to happen. Sign with things. The films we we've said that what we are piece on the roads of skull, fully aware that somebody's favorite film properly or fight the sequel trilogy. Kt's salon high light slight. Starring honesty's but at the same time I think act to keep it. Real songs wound. Be Balanced Bay. Fan. I like to think that's. That's what we are lucky to say. The idea of Disney, one of the biggest corporations in the world in descending on secret squarely Maoz around is a bit. Nominal I mean the. He the room with Catherine Kennedy. Toys Bob bog up whips him with forces female T. shirt until. I totally SORTA happens if it gets the money from the episodes in each abuse and following, but yeah, I think that say man I'm on with your Nisus. Infected port where this is absolute rubbish. This is absolute. I wouldn't play my talk with these rumors. They are what they are, and they do lead to some interesting discussion. Yes a that's the point is that that is some interesting discussion to have with this We've kind of like separated since just a few different segments. For our site Greeley just to keep track of it. But. Wait. Wait just hoping this will lead to some interesting points by now I. Because you know we, you know. We talked the wars. We love the wars and we. We love bringing different points to, and you never know all of. You know you should be open. Minded you should. You should look into stuff like there's some might cure on mind up. And wages during it on an. Looked like that all right, so matty boy lot one at one of these fuss points we've written down. His could be an alternative timeline the from current sequel trilogy. What does this look like? Is it easy effectively a new sequel trilogy, a new episode, seven, eight and nine. o'clock Let's try and keep it grounded to each point right light. So what do you think of that lot is is that? What does that look like in the heart of a something of slightly in terms of the question, could that be tentative online may let's or whether it's hard to cook. Conjecture, of course, there could be i. mean let's Hook. No. Stranger things have happened. There could be an alternative line oaters with deviate from the current sequel trilogy. That could happen in nothing saying that and they'll say we don't know what's the guarantees in the contracts and all that, but from what we know we know there's nothing to say that. Disney Luca Phone Katara, one. We're going to introduce III, multi-diverse some have different stories starting to thirty connect, but we'll might connect to the end or something. So, that could be another. There's not going be there could be. Does it look like I mean it would be a seven I. Think if we're GONNA, do if I. IF I had the chance to go over do again and had everybody's bullying actors cost the directors than it would involve ot characters, but obviously modest. Carrie Fisher modest pizza, mayhew. Sticking already, if again in a hypothetical world we'd still have them with us, and we'll go, we wish we. Let's say if he was still here. It would stupi set off the return of the Jedi. How they do it, although no made it would be, it would have to be the characters again. You've got to imagine that if I could Redo it, they'd have home. Leah Nuke back on sets, landlord back on set together going on missions and given the crab. As now. carries not here peters. Garissa. Food I'm coming back again. Camus a highly doubt. Mahmoud come back, but I mean hypothetically speaking it would I think it still be set after episode six, and not that far in the future with token hundreds if he's in the future, which is what you'd look. But a for the next safes so yes, quickly an alternative town. They were. Going to Redo it a new sequel trilogy I think it would have to be the OT characters because otherwise. What's the point? Yeah, yeah, and that's obviously from a practical standpoint. That's kind of hard to do. You'd have to re cost Princess Leia. You have Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill a of. Authority people that we had in the force wikens. Up the original squad you know. The only one who I could see coming by today Moi's Mark Hamill. A. Really think that Harrison Ford aren't think would come back a think he's you know. I was shocked. Semen rods skywalker, but come a guy who was like a twenty second sane with Adam driver, and now is one of the reasons. Why came back, isn't it? Yeah, for joy for Adam draw I'm blaming. Done, blaming beefcake, nuff said. I think with with Harrison Ford Nice long he's GonNa long it, La what was why would you WanNa do more? Can you imagine being a guy who has to ask him to come back again? And also you have to play with people's expectations all over again. And Harrison Ford would be like if he was killed off episode, seven lot would know he was, would often episode seven in the currency? Cool trilogy. You telling me that GonNa do the same again in another one now they're gonNA. Keep them alive to change expectations trench the story around. Right might often i. I. It rise so really could debbie an alternative timeline that comes from the that differs from the current sequel trilogy of course like you said that that is never say never. We. Never thought we were going to get an episode seven. Ten years ago. Now we got nine. We, got. Until spinoff films and a TV show. These a crazy times, crazy times a pop culture and star our wars, however however. Could be the not scrapping the sequel trilogy, but that just launching a whole new universe from scratch. A bit like DC, al-Mawla! Those guys do. The Mc you started everything again, but it wasn't like the other stuff wasn't cannon. It's just a different universe, and it's not what they stopped producing. That cartoon shows you that that is just a different universe. Y- annoyed I appreciate that to me though that does screen comic book stuff that does seem to Comic Book World, and Stall was is different, and therefore should be treated differently. No, it deserves to be treated differently however. However. When you are business. You know that you're running out of ideas and you think in Genoa. We are just too trapped in here. That moee verse of Madness Suddenly Looks Real. Good look through tasty. Yes, I'm not listen I'm not Sinai's Dongtai Gospel I'm not auto nine thin. You guys let deny is just is what it is. We're just playing. Devil's advocate is the possibility of course it does, and you know that sort of thing should always be treated as a possibility really in the context of where these rumors have come from an source from. Autumn believe it. I Don I think that doing something different. However, if the information was ice may be misread, or you know misheard. I, Don I am an. People a spin on things tonight, and if someone who doesn't like the new sequel trilogy comes along and says you know we're going to spin this round. That they could sell it as you know a certain thing you on. Technically, it's true. Whereas really scrapping, you know the whole on doing a different a different time on together on. His feasible. Yeah I mean whoever it is. Spreading the rumors, he must have some very well placed sources at the top of Disney to have any kind of Sniffen. What's going on hits? Roy Of course, the whole thing is hooked block. But if they came out and said we're scrap it a sequel trinity, but we all going to give you another trilogy sit in a set around the same time with different characters on the other side of the galaxy or in the unknown regions. So slot enough seven-night Inaugu different characters shoving. What's? Going on the other side of the galaxy. Hey Fair play nothing wrong with that. That's not the Canan anything. That's not taking away from our. In Colorado and Poe that's saying well actually never saw galaxy. There's another war revolution revolution going on, and this is what's happening. It just happens to coincide with seventy nine, so an alternative time. I'm not sure but Turn the power of the Galaxy I. Could I could imagine that but this. Could attend could have potential a soaker or worse for pitcher appearance in Mando cease to. Be The key to this alternative Tonghua Israel reject. The war between woes, obviously Roy the end of ripples throughout the world between modes. Did as a soaker returned to different tone nine, so what we saw the end of reports that play something has a soaker bought back some called. Knowledge from. The depths of time, which she can give to other people who knows how to blow wall between worlds. We focus playing a big part in Canada now. Could they be anything to this? I mean prophetically Jurado stately. Listen this just food part. Who of last week's episode and? To do that to go into this section, may of some. Of Cut, some, no. There, we go. Cambodia is now. No mcalinden house lost Chris Kellyanne this week. I've got a bottle my and Let's just say this? Dim scale would be proud. Of course, gold don't guess. Is Belgian. It's Belgium. Early Blah she might do. It's a logger. Stellar of course, my staff. Doing a dims Game I. do miss. My. Ski. Beautiful from bottlers, well and I'm not I'm not a massive data stella, but these were on offer so he. Bowls it, but automate I'm fat. Admit listen I'm a fan of Boggs on a bargain hunter, a minority bargain, Hannah, but listen. It's so one of the things I thought about this topic with Ezra so can possibly expanded. Lower Universe. In regards to you know different line. Could this happen? Will again with establish could. Could Ezra Anna Soka calm returned to a different time. Line you now. Maybe. I think that is a feasible way to do it. I think if they're going to do. It is a way to do it. My objection to that would be that. You're then relying on star wars rebels. The whole future? Of explaining to your Granddad and your neighbor. And your office worker or you're GONNA. Go. See Store was upside seven. what what force weakens neither different one why? Would, you mean. Have Redone Day redoing the seat coups that war, so. Yes so. Episodes one to six. They still cannon. Most normal folk. Don't even know what Canon Means Russet. Gentleman I I mean honestly. You are resting it on. A TV show for kids at the end is is just ridiculous. It's crazy and once again. People used wall between worlds is a basis as a foundation for theories like this. I may add like it is Gospel that. Is fact and I think it's crazy man. I think it's crazy I. think you can use things from the animated shows on from the book, says foundations things of course, but not for something as relaunching a trilogy that was already made set in a different Tomlin. That is absolutely mental. Die He's absolutely. Like insane. How on Earth would you market this? Year calm. You. You've just city so is, may you? All of our listeners we'd we'd know what are what a great white Italian Canon as we say, all certainly do anyway. But we have to pay realistic. The Wall between roads or rebels is not going to dictate the future of Canon. It might dictate some sources say the so could a series in ways. Her waist thrown is thrown up ex new story ideas, but they're not gonna go to the world, and but I wrote him that will between Whoa, timber that you know that black screen. Whoa, what path where these boats appear, and Pao shoots blue flame for some reason. They. Less utilize that that's not weeded to Think aid cannon store lethal between was was destroyed. The poll was anyway, but of course it could be other portal was it probably could be one on exit for we know? How they do, it can turn. It wouldn't look like. Would it quote? Occur would pertain return again. Would would vita still be a life? What would be fun this? Marwood doing is not Canon. Canon, but What if series Disney plus so spicy? Cly Wave said character didn't go this direction naturally did this state and the impact it would have. In noncanonical and could be fun and. Series Star was if the rebels losted baton have endo that gives the. Let's have a twenty minute animated. Fun Show by what could have offer that great do that I. DON'T WANNA actual alternative tire that want a new seven eight nine based on something that we watched, and then we'd have to explain to everyone that year the. Episode episode to save. The retirement of menace is actually the Force Awakens Avenue. We've serving in ripple by rebels on. The Disney channel waterway is Disney stay. Everybody is up, but will you want about? Isn't that resistance but resistance? No, it was definitely rip-off. PEOPLE SIGHT Resistance but I think you your buddies is. In, theory won't between modes is. Fun for animated, but he's very animated or comic book thing to play with and I'm glad that they did Sharif. The POLKA destroyed again. I could bring it back, but. As! You said howdy market. How on Earth do you do? Do you market it to the casual fan? Without without sounding ridiculous another man, I don't know how some of these guys don't crack up that saying it. Out. It's like. The thing is the the idea behind it. Isn't impossible and that's why. That's why you can't just write this of completely, and you have to take him. Maybe as maybe this is an interpretation of the truth. Maybe, and that's why said you know maybe that? Just doing a whole different timelines net for none of it will be Canon including the sequel trilogy, but the Anti TNT Disney people be well cutting the tape while. Technically speaking yes, but could be cutting the rest of their but you know what. Whatever but I think we've addressed that bid again once again. It's it's it's possible. That's it really. is again sounds like vote cobblers anyway. Next bit, does this coincide with speculation of Kathleen Kennedy's end of contract so apparently Kathy's contract to come to an end in twenty twenty one. On one she goes. the whole of Lucasfilm are going to be kicked into. overdrive and they're gonNA remake the sequel trilogy that's going to be the number one priority and apparently room in the hood, a renauld in California. Is that some? There are two camps paypal there as Camp George Lucas on is Camp Kathleen Kennedy The you know because George Sodas Company for four billion US dollars shares, and he still heavily involved in everything. Who would have thought so? There's two camps yet George isn't spending all of his time in nyc diner somewhere in reading newspaper drinking coffee. Anyway so Yeah, apparently, this coincides of that now. Tycoon the camp. George and Kathy stuff and threatened been none of. That's true. A really dunk. Need to go crazy deep into that to really explain how it is, but once again the level of unprofessionalism in in these leaks it just screams. It's not true and that people have a fundamental they they fundamentally do not understand how corporations what can. How leadership in prices walk I'm people might be. Really unhappy with her. I'm not saying that they're not. Yet because that does happen. They're all businesses where the employees just all know, happy with who is though is the management. In place I've been in a team like that. Yet. I've been team like that so I know how it feels. However is hard to go off of these things with you know without solid proof butts Miami boy. What do you think on this because once? Can you have a very good knowledge of the film industry in General? What for? A big corporation. We are I think both you and I could probably come some sort of logical conclusion on this, but this one's a bit more of an open ended one. This doesn't necessarily. Shout might up rubbish to me. Some. Does this coincide with the speculation? Kathy's leaving next year. You know I think as because a lot of the mind. People are still there including Bobby Eiger. Whether or he's risen stepping down as CEO now, but can you imagine how badly the reputation of Disney lucasfilm would be absolutely dragged through the mud will be destroyed. If Katherine Kennedy, you know one of the list of Hollywood producers. Of Hollywood in terms of what she's bought, as soon as she leaves, it was like Whoo Roy. Scrap that Robert Jacomb. Let's do one now and the steel and completely threw. What would it be more almost ten years worth of work and money? Let's not forget that and out the window. How bad without nook honestly you any? If deviation from what Kathy has done. A horrible state I think on the company because I was I. we've we've worked for big companies before. We've been part of teams manage teams, and sometimes you everything. Work, there are times when you do. Look at the people above you up without disparage anyone think. This is not working. You look at the is being bought from above. When he joined with them, and he kinda think already wish it. A change along the line somewhere frightened things up China's noise Guterman, but but. Denied! Got Into Hojo's lucasville thing. To coming back. We've even being told on as on this sessions by Georges People. George is busy working on his museum. He's he's enjoying the retirement. He for few new pair of sneakers, and he's enjoying working on the Lucas Museum of our films. That's what he's doing of his time now and is. An obviously flopped charity work. That's what he's doing and he's no. He's coming back to. Keiko Kathleen Kennedy all because remember. He chose to take over he handpicked from. Everyone's this is who I want to hit up my company 'CAUSE Lucasfilm was his body was. And Kathleen Kennedy was handpicked. Lock you site though it. Could carry solid. There are ways like could do it where it didn't seem quite so office. Of course, the is worst case. Kathleen, Kennedy would leave and I immediately. Throw out the S. T. in a statement. We thank thank them for their efforts. However, we're going to move on with a new sequel trinity. Yes, that would be horrendous publicity and cool people to turn their back on. Disney Lucasfilm. But. If I was. Playing Devil's advocate if I would change the wording. Do over time then they could build up foundation for something they want to do or maybe some of the other ideas which were thrown out. Maybe they could start to use those, but he comes down. It comes down to it. You know what was coming next, but it comes down to the execution. Off comes down to that May and It's very hard to speak about it because I was in my mind I've no I only sequel trinity thrown out whether any of it because I had issues with one of the film's does how things throwing out with so much as being spoon from this these last three films not. Of Comic Books Video Games. Everything will get to shortly. Autumn my man does it cover install. It is a good time. Put a log that I, if Kathy's go next year, and it gave people got mixed feelings, or whether they should not then obviously this kind of Ruma. Who add fuel to the fire that? If you ask me I, think it would be. Horrendous move for them to. Do Anything luckless when Kathleen leaves. Yeah. I think I agree. And I don't think is going to happen anyway. They're not remaking the sequel. Trilogy are really didn't think that and then not going to remake. On. Announced Tomorrow night now in US, my. But. I don't think it's going to happen. May Now Kathleen Kennedy leaving in twenty twenty one do do I think that is plausible. I think we're GONNA differently posible. I think that could be plausible big time. Big Time just again I. DON'T WANNA. Make this into Kathleen, Kennedy show, but quickly. Who Do you think could replace a you know? I genuinely have no idea I mean. Everybody says John February on, but don't February's Dukes I said working directors. And people who said flown in on the round site, but we did on Clo- I'll put by. US. Contrary to die, you shouldn't be near the top table rock now because he's not ready for it, but fro Anthony. Leading Disney is to call the cliche saying cyber. Roy Now. Put unless they pull somebody out the back lot commissioner, which one Nudie or some we've never heard of. A case you've got a guy for foreign flying because they are. Movie People Kathleen. Kennedy is the greatest producer of all time. Not necessarily studio hate so five. Actually. If Shell Rashwan is the next president of Lucasfilm by I, think us. Ludicrous. Really do. There's going to be somewhat alluded voice, but Yep Yep. I think that would be absolutely ludicrous. I just I'm fairly adjustment She's head of live action Michelle Rashwan remember we did a show in Hud didn't wait. was episode. Yeah Luzon Episode Fifteen? While here we are seventy one. Arrived but like. May I deny she just you know she's. I don't know I. She's not been on any of the roundtables unmanned Laurien. You know we've seen our little bit and rice of skywalker. But regardless I think if Kevin Foggy fences a job change I think he'll come over to stall woes. Baden thing you know. Why would he? Why would he leave? Marvel, maybe because the the infinity sagas done, and it's downhill from here. And I genuinely think not necessarily in from a quality point of view, but suddenly from fun I do think marvel is on down downward. Spiral Downward Trend bestows isn't a downward trend as well. and. They need soda out the need to sort out and bought. A WUSS. I I do think stall was has more ability sly relevant the marvel. Mandatory on is proof of and if stall was can be done well, you congress the world. We know it has that capacity. Has that potential? It's that universe stalls. Universe is just never ending is just never never never ending, never ending stall holy Deny Man I listen I think that would be a hard job because like you, said he's very hands on, but when you think about it in the Mand laureate. What has he done on these written? And he's he. He just heads everything up, doesn't he? You know he's. He's the daddy of it, but he doesn't necessarily. Get really stuck in in involved in stuff, so my opinion on several being the future leader of Lucasfilm has actually conner changed in recent months, U. s into. Yeah on I mean tips if. President of Lucasfilm also got my walls made the women who who would kind of lead the put the vision out. We could map out the pulse, definitely fair for whole as Far As. Yes as Kevin Foggy but again there will be somebody we've never heard of just come out of the blue for whoever is. On the hand might buy yes, if you can turn the fortunate around, but remember the loss. Three films have four films pop psych so Abbott have all made over billion quit, so it's not like this is dying franchise in terms of. fun answered. Yes, that has been diminishing returns, but they still can ever billion dollars per movie, so it's not as an awful of what needs to be done. This needs to be. Some more people ratatouille. Yes, that's right. That's right. It just needs a bit more better organization that is it. That's what it comes down to, but let's go back to the essence of the question. Might boy in the most succinct way possible? Does this coincide with speculation Kathy's contract ended next to. The room does a fancy people. Might people hey as Catherine's going? Let's ask good might be with that they're going to. Kind of noisy, so give. To the Tomlin so I think the two go hand in hand nicely, but I think there's an alter of truth in it. Yes, I like it might. Know. It's Cobra's right next. So. Let's disturbed because we we haven't been paying. We've given our thoughts and all of this, but let's break down now to pros and cons. If you will so this happening of everything that you mentioned Tillett Timelines de Canonization of stuff, people leaving and stuff being taken away well, the pros and cons of Hapworth wore the pros, and may of all the. Let's say as as what happens on the sessions we report. Something's wrong next. It's true. Let's say that they come out with. Sorry. Actually we hours. You'RE GONNA do. This is what the pros be. The pros all that they would have a more. Kylie Heron Story. This mapped out. Better rather have learned from that mistake somehow been. And this effectively. A blank slate. Unlike can look back and see what worked. What didn't work can be signed me up slough obvious here, but that's what I think and I think he does. Come down to the. Bounce around the other pros and other details but that's. The main pro I think what about you might exactly the same listening exactly? You can get. You can have a plan that story. Whatever anybody has to say. On this hill, the sacred he was never planned out, or if it was, it was thrown out and having different directors nations through everything. Having a lack of cohesion. Really hurts the secrity. A what should have been an infinity saw Econo- vending. We should have had. Ross could blow in doors of everybody again. We know people either love, and we enjoy it, but the united should been all block. All this is a generational thing where everyone comes together and like wow. Star was done it. It didn't but if you're going to Redo everything. You learn lessons, and you have unlimited tower in terms of. Retention nothing's off the table now. If you were to scrap everything what they did, when they scrapped the legends, e the Odu, which was never candidate. Anyway you've got you can do. Anything is fair gamers now with the candidate, our his and The message that that everything's connected all counts blah. Economic after trait. Of Reuter come in and rebooking but I'd like this to happen because this. The Story Group and I actually in this animated series maker in the film. This happened, so you can't do that, so the doors to. Great storytelling and the plan that story, but that's for me. That is the only pros zero also This might be a bit more basically tons. My friend, who are looking at in terms of the negative they go. Semi, it undermines everything that's already existed. It confuses the audiences crazily. We this is one I keep thinking about. We wouldn't get Adam driver. Yet. We wouldn't Adam drive because the spot. It's Foltz. The Sequel Term Edgy just deliver saw many banners so many banging moments manage law pair of embarrassed mashing Griping Yorkshire Pudding My. Trust may lie eight so good therapists. V, adjust. Good good. It S it. I said Yeah I. Admit Dr. Love telling me the other way 'cause rewatching Rosza skywalker. Whenever Adam drives onscreen. Man It just like he just steals the show. He just steals the show and when you. Absolutely he does, and when you watch force awakens now to the rise Skywalker, which is fun to do now on gone back and watching these different scenes and stuff you can actually interpret the sequel trilogy in Sutton. Y, you know. I got off subject a little bit, but you know in Ray. Has the lot cyber on Stock Caleb ice, and she runs of it with the lightsaber. Point enfolds That's how. Do not mean year. Maybe united the Mandela Affect is starting to have your life. You're just starting to think. Things of that United because everyone was to start thinking I listen I'm on border that. Border that so I think undone under a lot of fun and memories of had I lost. You know half a decade or more speculating about these films, because these films hold such a special place, my haw, not perfect the joy. The I've got from this dog on this time period of being a star wars, fans ready, just unparalleled. So I think that's just move on. What about you may cons? Rubbish idea with the comb is stupid. We wouldn't get busy Ridley. We come home. To religious type what she? What she matches on English rose. where she made her own force awakens, and but this is throw that in spatial her, but as a company. We don't care about that. Remember the false awakens hype during opening night. How many memories have we go? And how many people could Roy into sight over voice? Message us to say that one of the Special Memories? However, okay, how is opening not the full awakens? You just GonNa find out when we get that logging in ball again. The whole idea, To. Tomlin's without his poor storytelling is sloppy is the laziest form of written denote you done something, undo it. We've talked to WHO Strong word. I've really that. Knock it. Are we now decided? The sequel trilogy was a multibillion dollar taste. All of the ACA mentioned. The stories, the characters that the majority of people love mean nothing suddenly. This video games the COMEX, the books the much. That has come out. That's just nothing in more of a Casey grow wanted to be seen. We WanNA be right goes. You want to look up finally. Say themselves in a month that were about that kind of rubbish would have someone else coming to stay come in? It's not I mean also. Is. Paul star was actor. Wants to come in to something like Star Wars, but ultimately knows it doesn't really mean anything. Saw was part of a brand new. Broach what Paul Ryan. You're in this. So the the the least important story. Go home and I going to be. And also I've mentioned. There's so many times on the show. There's no stakes. It dead. Quick into the magic time travel with dementia. No change thing, bring them back. It happens it can we mentioned? MCI happens mid Loki. How many times I go down. He's come back again. This is a hard really w hike the idea of not having any finality and fondly. Let's cool. What as pandering the cities? Pandering. Can you imagine if I did a seat couture today? More I do have? Block a Mall Wide Let. Ben Solo now he ended up pulling stuff down from the sky and tighten folks down homes, and still paying the dashing smuggler. I Re Cost Carrie Fisher in the JAPA- slight became. What will fall GONNA DO THEY GONNA have to appease the people he wanted they send for. The comes are none of as any good. Yup Yet. That's it man love it beautifully said beautifully said I. Love The little mention about pandering to fans because that's what that's. What happens on now off all my I'm I put something interesting on on social was about that you know how pandering to fans all really really comes down pandering almost like a vocal minority, and that's that's a really hard thing to to measure by think that's become a problem in a lot of the world without trying to get to remotely because you know that's not us but that's. A problem when that when that comes to stall Nah. Nah Come stall was different yet treated differently is fancy universe. If somebody, move on man. You know. Move on I, watch. GALACTICA. something. I listen what what gets me. Though is fine to be disappointed with something. It's fine to be really upset by something, but like Don. Let it hurt you that much. Flaming Act United Light. You can just not like something and just. You know, listen like you commensurate man. You know there's money to be made out there, guys. There's money to be made, and if you know have to talk an audience, especially, we've negatively because trust me. God's people love negatively yet. People love negativities. The press figured this out decades decades ago. Look the way they talk to certain things again. I'm not trying to be too real wildly here. By but That take the brilliant. Berlin but there we go lie I think it's important to look at these things because listen, do I think that could be a different time on installs woes. Yes, archly, thing that's feasible but will I just rice, the sequel tragedy and now rubbish. Rubbish that's not going to happen any any business. Any business of science one dude up there. Even if they want to do it I want. Do. that. That's too much pride that you know there's two. There's too many to many complications. That better off, you know fixing any hose of different kind of material, but starting a new story. And in Taika white T T we trust. Gives. No, no, no pressure might now. I talked with echo everything. You've just said there might come particularly anything to it over the echo that you could have an alternative mind if you must, but then nothing really matters to me because it's not really connected. Is it bothers they go dinner going to throw out any films? Lucas, who never throughout the break rules? Even though George, Lucas felt the pressure that they're not going to throw out the sequel trinity nowhere does anyone. Want them to or nor should should die these other stories that are our stories this stories and will just say to view them untucked. The maintenance lock Luke's that if you don't like them, that's fine, but though it can seem, you got to take a breath of fresh air and just move on basically someone with all the Hoopla going around in the found new gun mad. Blow Audra. Sit back in the Battino does have a beer and this blow over. Oh, you know, eat boy, good idea. Is Guy Henry. Known playing, grandma, talking robot, and you're listening to wars sessions probably. Britain's Greatest Star Wars podcast. Go flat two dimensional portal. We've just walked through the wall between both them. They call it and here we are. We've managed to find the door to the band Tina, shall we? My A. Mall Wide Luke flies in the House here the antenna don't do if you don't know this is what we do. We Review Guys. We have a few days and we shoot. A galactic brings around our topic I. I. We have something a little bit more report dimension. Some poor results blow. Yeah well. We've not done a polynot wild guys. Wallow we were telling you to vote on staff and people were told him real serious about you know new timelines and staff. We asked you guys. Something we asked to wo- similar to. What we asked a few guys at Comic Con. Lost Year. Who'd win in a cage? Agung or Jiwa and it was close was close. Forty eight percent of you, said a Jiwa Fifty two said `I gounghin would be victorious. You Not Know Eli. This is the content that people been waiting for so cut next week. They may just be enough a similar poll coming. I'm ED. Thanks, guys focused. Say Condon's beefcakes. Over them. Onto what you go about the mine discussion and we've. Voice message from royalty from the valleys from King of Wireless Luke Summerfield. Does he have to say this? Things are getting really spicy bounty today. This whole read Cornyn. Most diverse doesn't really belong star, Wars. We know him a believer enjoying the star wars, the is. Not what it might to be. All these click bit me. Droplets really wake me up. Imagine someone traveling back in time Mattel. Leonardo Da Vinci the Mona Lisa needed some teeth when she smiled. Paint your own a few eyebrows. Thousands of people didn't get the Star Wars, what did? Lots of people and enjoy returns Jeddah. We're not was released. sequels. PREQUELS at a big power gang the sessions. Thank you for being awesome. Can Ask. The oldest ashes check out and follow one quarter portion on twitter and instagram. Under remember! Not Love Superstars. He. Those Golden Tones Valley's agree with pretty much. Calm smoke reversed doesn't belong in Star Wars and Luke say loop is very positive. Lock his namesake blog on gene enjoy style was for the east not for what it could have been. This is what we got. This is. Basically if you don't enjoy then, there's always the other films for you so. Thank you look my. Is Go check out one quarter portion on twitter and instagram Sir Luke, Summerfield, to new era, he set up to promote plots of star wars, goodness in various mediums I take out one quarter Porton! One called up or room. Thank you for sending in Leuke, boy. We've got some comments. I stop jobe King said Nah. Nah leave it. As is what some fans may not like the sequel trilogy some fans due. Respect all fans fans don't make movies. It would be like letting the lunatics run the asylum. And Sean was said they would work by in. My opinion is one of the things that make star was easy to follow for casual fans. Even as a die stall was fan. I like the one time line. I do recognize how it might limit potential stories. One cannon makes the stories told more impactful or so true so true good comments. Guys could show Clint K B. G said one time line one time loan only for me. I want to put auto at timelines. It will destroy what makes star wars so special Patty Harvey said they should just create new movies and shows that ignore accept the existence of the secret. Trilogy Lock. How Their Planetary Television University between six and seven any new stuff going food should just not mention them and saw Madan new said hip. The park has been set install was reported. Just do it. Let's forget the last three films so again. Ensue contrasting opinions now. Oh all the spice the spice. Up Next. We got a cheeky voice message from the sick slayer on Instagram, less hair who? Har- soul sessions. I. Personally don't think about timelines would work for Star Wars. I think it would be too confusing for the majority of casual thousand viewers. I could speak for myself. As a casual fan of the x men series I find all the jumping between timelines to be quite confusing. I'm of course the other problem is, is that even if the sequel trilogy has received a Mattress Bounce? It has spawned its own expanded universe with. Books Animated Series, and even a theme park galaxies edge of course, and to once again a make old that material not cannon it would be a very big decision and not something that I see Disney is likely to do. After, all has caused them. I'm finally the final point about this. I think it would be a real shame to D-. Canonize movies that brought together. All the legacy access on it was a lost appearance of Peter Mayhew and Carrie Fisher and quite probably the loss time that we would see Lexi actors like Mark Hamill Harrison Ford reprisal roles. you guys are amazing and keep up the good work, he. Yes once again they're brought up there. Casual viewers totally agree with that and I think it. Would you know it? It would suffer. It would suffer. But thank you for sending not grand voice messaging made. It wouldn't even mentioned galaxies yesterday they they've opened theme park pace around a secrity. They're not they kind of knows it and the and the expert movies. The Non Canon time line, but sometimes Kennedy's deaconess. Let's not. NORSAR. Rudderless, prime, four, one, eight, nine hundred. Turn at timelines and Star Wars, because it makes it like marvel or DC however I do know they will find a way to wreck on the ast I hiked the estate. Just Star. Wars are no. They're fans of Tom. Linebarger are invested or understand. Some people say except what we got did I. Always say no, because this is our socalist passion. We Star Wars fans to give what we just. We had our beloved heroes driven. Bad Badruddin only to have some excuse say it's realistic and carry development. Course I haven't seen the true back story. If this does happen, I will accept it. And the Star Wars Destination said definitely know when I was a kid playing stars backyard. My cousins would never let me play agenda because there were no go, Jud, I, it was just something. We accepted as a lifelong fan. I did not know much needed a character know how much needed to carry loughry into she I turned on that lot safer. The Force Awakens. No little girl is ever. Ever going to be told You Call Plaza Jeddah are due to being ago because we have that representation in the main Canon Thou cannot articulate. How often would be to have that? Ret conned a WII, and that's a powerful message there and brought him was promised on the other side as well. We've got two very conflicting messages goes. Thank you for sending in a fantastic messages there guys. And then finally to counteract pop. We had Vadym Simmons. Emily Bonner OMG hoggish chewbacca eight my lunch. Johnny Ola Brucie U.. S. M. Joe Casta Jeremy. Sullivan sticky pop and Doff Dildo. Who Said Oh now actually? He's changed his name his knee Dylan. It treason then eights threes them. Right. I was just thinking that yeah. Anyway, they're against the idea there. Against is a lot of people are against a OT. Knicks, that should be fun with it, but would make things too complicated and finally junior dot Mitch said. It's warm way to tie and more e you content what diplomat? Diplomat love it. We got sent in loads of stuff. Guys like a lot of stuff and a lot of them naturally are long I think we had to leave a voice message. You know so apologies, guys, but you know there's a lot to say about this. I think. Overall! Most people seem to be against the idea which to be honest, it's nice to see, but once you know. Listen I get that some people might not want it to be the sequel trilogy to be Canon, and from a certain point of view I understand that understand that, but the the answer to it is not de-, canonizing getting rid of. though is good to see the variety of opinions. And when we do get convicted opinions, we do like a shot in the mountains boat, because everyone's opinion is valid as directs as whether we agree the more not. So yeah, it goes sake so much good to hear doll. Philo again. Welcome back and. Thank you if only sent the main for those who didn't make this week? Do keep sending them in. Will at some point, and yes, we did receive voice my, which I'm sure we can. Utilize in one way shape or form in the coming days ago. Sexy summer presents sending those in now, speaking of sending things in. Patriot questions by. Yes patriae on questions and up I. We have a fantastic question from Stuart House. Who asked this? Does piped-in, appearing in the rise of Scott will could change the way we view the other films for example. How do we fill when we see him? Disappear down that shaft in return of the Jedi. Compared to how we feel when we watched. It doesn't make the celebrations at the end of the film meaningless now. Do we feel as euphoric? What do you think about that Mattie? Franklin, it does change it. I think it really does. Make it mainly as well. Return of the Jedi Mannequins victory does feel targeted for me anyway, because which something we'll worried about. We said there's so many times I get this return. A pouch wrong is gonNA climb. For for us, it did. Get the algorithm that. Any his sacrifice ball the ease of peace while. He is in that same time there were still wars and the first final old was growing anyway. It was kind of a stolen pace. It was hollow piece. Peace. Masquerading is just so. There was never any peace so. Can Dip was. Told time for the first order defined fine northern imperium to grow again, but Bosnian prominent comeback. Determine so it does give more white today extended can Nina was GONNA buy books to compete in the Games a hint, and not to all of the above mentioned in the first order coming back, pertain returning, they strengthened by this, but as we said before, and the movies are critical, because that's what ninety percent of the cash Elisa goodness say, don't care about it, the books and the Games, and that however the books and they got all. White now to the return of pouts. Ross first order, but for me it does tight somewhat. The return of the jet are now on that. Nothing really changed or by yourself. It's a good question. It's very very good question. It does time Taylor. It does timetable bit. Because return to the jet is ending is just absolutely brilliant, but fortunately I do have those feelings not going to ways whenever what Senator Jeff I always view that as you know I, see a good thing. And also. Listen in history. Yeah, you're mayhem. A history GEIC ninety boy, you look back at history you know people celebrate victories, and they a fully aware that that one last forever because star wars isn't a perfect universe is not perfect galaxy. They are imperfect people. There's good people and bad people I'd like to think that the whole point of the story is that. The good brings out the best in people and therefore brings out the best in the universe. There isn't a permanent solution in the Star Wars Galaxy. and. I feel like that was kind of exploded in the last. Jedi I. I feel like the Raisa skywalker just kinda length away from that more spiritual side of that Bay of storytelling in in this saga so. Dizzy Times for me I snatch. All wanted these people where I don't like. It doesn't time the sacrifice or anything like that lot. Vader's in particular light doesn't time to because without Veda sacrifice that cannot be any luke skywalker that Kombi any sequel trilogy. The Kombi anything POW team wins. Without Vita sacrifice. Yet completely Roy and is not Ri-, there's no. There's no nothing. But you could argue of the force would try and balance itself out, but. It didn't because he found a Veda. Redeemed, himself. By he was. You Know I. Don't know that that's probably a long long long conversation. I'm just doing a really simplified version of it. But I? Do think you know. I think stall was needs to try a little bit more carefully in future, and but I think they know that I think know that however. This isn't the be all and end all because as I say Stewart. We have the mandatory on. TV shows expanded law I think it's going to address some questions. Some real deep questions where we go about ROSCO woke. I'm the sequel trilogy I. Think It's going to address it in a real good way. Watch this spice. Spice but. An answer. Yes or no. Sorry boy toxic local, says interest. This is a good question for mine. We say that we think. Had it not been powerful Tina returning in there had been placate example in. The end of six isn't tainted because pepperdine is still going the evil. Threw him down the shaft and he got caught with many ways like. You! See Might. But. That I. Agree with what you say to for. The most part were when I think that is wider discussion, point and I'm interested in. A bit further so strict. My you've opened up a very good kind of worms. If you I ever patron questions, so thank you forward. I may somebody else. He likes to open up a can of worms or Is Alex Jessop and he said. It. Just what Solo again for the first time since the cinema, how often do you think Holland and Sherry shower together and what you can work either shower, buddy, Luke. How often do you think Honda Jewish together? But would you like a working shower buddy I mean. Listen man like. You got a friendship like Han Chu as you know. I think it's kind of from that perspective. One Way I reckon is a bit like a doggy. Now offense to W- to two. Rookies or chew in in in this case. By, think you know if if Hans Somewhat? She was going to follow it. Trump and Drama, it's like my brother's dog. Mahbubur has Doku juniper. She's called. She's a big go now. She's seven months old. She's already huge. A Black Labrador, but she's a big slap Black Labrador. She is beautiful, but you go anywhere man. That dog is just kind of like. She just follows you and she just wants to know what we. That's what I recognize so listen. I don't think it's a regular thing. Because Han probably has is. Somewhat privacy but I reckon sometimes choose. WHO's GONNA ball in that they ll? Awa- Guam, but Really address is this is the second time if what Solo that is shocking, Alex, I shock in my. Shocking silence. Listen I'm going to do. After. Really avoid not painting a drink of at my. Site it's. Not Big love might gloves dry question. Rankin Solo. Helms so grumpy, perpetually grumpy 'cause the Falcons only got one shower, and he's always having to pull rookie here from the drain and having to share to conserve spice water. To make sure that the ball is not on the blink from hot water, so they have to share to cut costs. That book uses much shampoo and soap and Charito if he's paying for the for us. Because my ex phoned his, and also just about his work be uses a great called a body scrubber as well suppose he could rugby back up against juries back and you lower. The backup Cypher your arms. Yeah. I! Think yeah, not entirely sure they did do own, and would I like one listen. I'm about five foot six on very small. That will keyser by working. Full, he's taken up all the water and I'm only getting look dirty sweaty rookie. Walk through a life. Don't want to work as a shower buddy and. That's probably what grumpy because he's always got. Share the one shy of Chewy to save save money on. What I'm thinking, but we always ask you guys out there. What do you think the power to in questions from Stuart interesting question lots of that one? Defeat harder. We got together show off duty share with the world last night. What you think about goals and Looking for where can they fallen patriot? If I want to sign up, all, look what we got to offer. They can go to pay turn dot com forward slash star wars sessions, and we got teas all kinds of tears, but it starts from two dollars a month for less than a cup of coffee. From a coffee shop, so have a look store sessions. PATRIOTIC DOT COM for slash store. I shouldn't say yet. From the. Two dollars. You get access to all of our show, too, but each month, so you don't have to sell onto a to hey. Moe of voices available from everything, so if you WANNA wearing if our merch and got those who've been in the last month. Thank you so much looking forward in the pictures but we. Offer Dempsey look in Honky in his star. Worcestershire's Taser go to t public dot com for slash user, force lobster session and check out the range. We have on offer there, and also, if you want to join up to are safe and friendly discord loop, how can they? DM US contact US tweet us our son, any source social media, and we'll reply of a cheeky link and you can join the fun chat. And Gentle. Stall Sessions Day. Nah Awry you heard it ladies and gentlemen. You Bunch of spicy legends is the Star Wars sessions. Geiman they sweet. GET HIS MIND turn host. Ready. have been pre wounded and violence that they sponsor Bina. Might. Bring on! This one's a bit of a story, May. Last week. I got a message from an old colleague of mine cooed Andrew. We used what together and Andrew Nye we both had a love of stall was and it was one of the reasons why we got along so much we would joke around about light. The stupidest stuff install was and we would want each other up and stuff and I remember when Alfie. This this. He's not now. He's in his twenties now, but when he joined, it was a teenager and We were asking him about how he did on school and stuff when we rely on my eat. Much about what to and he'd like. Not, really didn't take history in school. We will all. Might you telling us you never? You never heard of chancellor pope team. He'd be like Knob never heard of him. We've lost our Mike can't believe never. Trust to. Voice Literally all day men Andrew Belaboring the point like Oh man conflict. You've never. Chancellor Pouch. And it'd be like yeah, whatever and he he. He liked grudge gone. Noah met. You should google it now. The joke, but it didn't use a nominal GONNA. Get glit-. It sooner the joker! Carry on. But anyway so every now and then Andrew who occasionally listens to the show. He messaged me. Unto just randomly. He was semi gifts and somebody. He messaged me this question. Who is the hero of return of the Jedi the true hero of return of the Jedi I'm GonNa. Give you a hint. My boy it Luke Skywalker. and I said to him all went well. If you being serious than it's and can Scott Walker He went a say like good, good good on saw but wrong. He said at this point. I'm not riot Khayelitsha, flipping job because nays. Like so basically you can I ask questions. And! You have to figure out my boy. WHO. Is The true hero, wink wink for ton of the Djeddai Guy. A sense of plot to destroy me here. Roy Question Question One. So who is the real hero with a couple of weeks on the IT? Okay, other human. I think they are. I. Are. Kapadia. Sent my i. I think they are yes human. A human. So whoever was a human wasn't Botham was. No rock good many buttons. Deli bring us information The, human! Male or female? Mile. A male human site was real hero for to. Necessarily, be able to tell from how you say this hero. The Mayo Hubert. Might Up. Get that. Over. Would they at JAP was palace? Yes, that's why I asked. That's why I asked a not not Salat led me down kind of like. A. Whole of darkness. So so as a male human, he probably wouldn't know was a male human. But was it what was that Jabots Panties? My human at Chap. Is Pound this. Does. He have catchphrase. No We don't head dialogue from this hero. Jesse try to rank aw. Oh. You are thinking along the site on was May. Rank cookie your. You are extremely hot because around the area. My only that guy was cooled. If you if you get this, I will be. An a his justice expectation you get this I will be so shocked. Obi Belong A. Why is it just for? The balance was one of the guys behind the Coliseum Luke skywalker out not down. Good good thing. Because, then to the whole CEO Baden incident Ranko, your your heart, right? It's like it's in that same. WHO's in that same? You Got Nuke Ranko Comoran. Yep It's not good morning, is it? Not Maury okay, so you've eliminated that okay, but there is. When, when you ask the question you're like. You used Pasta worth they add the star right one. BIT The dust! Yes Somebody Mayo and Not necessarily. In return of the jet, I never come Flynn. That's a him. Oh. No. David on a slave. A male human, doesn't it like what is it Java's Palacios around the rankled but they? Off The return of the. No before a ton of. How. Nicer on Daddy's carpet. Oh. Oh! Must. How good you know, you'll cannon because I would, I would accept a I would accept. Something that isn't the nine. Was He? The empire strikes back. My. You don't even seem an empire strikes by you. Don't see them in any of film. Literally you see them only to under John I. If, you don't get it in. Let's have a look if you don't get it in in the next thirty seconds on going to give you a big him or okay, so you only say the maternal general, however I before that. Myo Human. Nature and the Chapas Palestine. I think your biggest. To play took the uniform from. Now Common. No comment. I that I think? I don't think that set if think when we just said past tense. A lot were that might imply that the. Dead Riot. Yeah, what does link US in? The rankled pep. Talk the cops the skull. We have a winner the skull. bigalow! Is the true hero of Retana jet I. To Andrew. Coffey, Ironic. I! Yeah, that's the ridiculous thing. Might that is ridiculous thing. Is that a skull that is thrown in return of the? Jedi has a name in the expanded Universe is the laws. Would you recommend that? Over probably came in legends of loose skull. Could put Liu, and could you imagine if he said the first thing I'll say a bit Lo- quite for his name was here. Imagine the absolute scenes. I honestly a literally I got I got this message like in the in the flip middle the Diet. I was like what I was getting from Ron's lot lot. War is because all. I is it slides. CROMER's like three PR because I was like I. Don't know who I couldn't think of it. I couldn't think. An Andrew Richly shot literally, matt go onto Google right now on top and beat slow. Love, had I spoke que-. Davie L.. It's the first thing that comes up on Google. Predicted message bigelow and coo of comes up afterwards. Stop was on. This should be I a skull that's in motion. The has been thrown. The first pitcher. He was an apparently. He was a Caribbean poorer as well so. That was a net. According Tonge Brown. That is the true hero of retirement to Djeddai. You're welcome, and that is this week's kind of game. I ironically. That was an incredibly good for Saly. Seek got me thinking anyone out. They did anybody out there at all guest. beat low. Was Boy if you date your lawyer of tennis anyway. This been coming about. It is too crazy thing. Cannon anymore, but crazy man crazy. Yeah a bit. An wikipedia the only time he's ever mentioned is in return of the deadly forensic. The skull over sleek anti was referenced in install replete locations identified of than that. He's nothing about him over then. He had his bumps foreign against a button and kill the wrinkle. Potato. That's it. My I mean Y to wife to be used in. The invention everyone who came before him, so my quality game Agai was pressure now because I've got to somehow come up with something and have as decent as Aso might frank you very much guy. The likewise I swear. I can't do. So goes. One, what twenty on episodes away from episode one hundred? The countdown begins now got episode seventy one is done and dusted, but the fun doesn't end. No. One's ever really gonNA pop from bit local of can found. US must've blogger. You can find us at star, wars sessions dot co Dot, U. K. AW, swanky websites. You can find us on twitter at Star Wars session with no s at the end you can slide toy galactic dams on instagram off. Feel free to drop us a cheeky voice now or cheeky message to our email address sws at what I watched tonight. Dot Co Dot U. K. and if you want to consider. 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Episode V: Attack of the Promotion

"Stormtroopers disappoint me and you could be next. Sit back and embrace the laughter. Is your destiny. Welcome to sit sits. This thing is lane I knew I should should've taken up a galactic taw lesson instead now, what time is it? Holy nerve herder it's nearly noon I'm supposed to giving a rally of ruthlessness to the new stormtrooper recruits. It's like a PEP rally but much more ego driven and much less democratic. Said, we just received an urgent message to cancel your ready of ruthlessness. They decided to have it the scout if base imperial security complex instead what that's preposterous. I spent all week on my speech and even had a very clever analogy on how the jet I order like two socks full of sand. It was going to be an enlightening and epic experience on whose orders and propel patine. Sir He said he's been highly impressed by his other apprentice darth escalator and would like to see how he handles a performance of that magnitude under pressure. Thank you for the Information Admiral I will make alternative arrangements that will be all. Who does this sits scum think he is how could pal between fall his assistant pandering and blind obedience I hope someone throws me down a reactor shaft. If I have a stoop to that level I mean doth escalator envious much and after that stunt, he pulled it last year's Christmas Corey using force lightning to create a strobe light dancefloor. Come on. I've seen better party tricks from Goggin. Street. Performer. I better do something to take mind off this before I forced choke every officer on this level. Well, I might still do that. anyways. You know what? They say one dead officer a day keeps the light side away. A see with the old inbox has in store for us today. yes. A new email from the black swirl was forwarded this morning. This one comes from Banta fodder forty-six. He writes dear Lord Vader. I've recently been given promotion at work, but the person who was supposed to take on my work has been dragging their feet leaving me with two jobs to do do I reach out to our manager and ask for him to facilitate do I stay working both jobs and hope it settles itself out soon or do I just dropped my old stuff in the new person pick it up when they feel like getting around to it. Well. Fodder I hope you don't mind me calling you that actually step above from how I addressed the rest of the fleet although you listed the re completely natural actions to take I'd like to present a four and then explain my reasoning in a most simplistic easily comprehensible way. Possible. First and foremost do not do this imbecile. Any favors to George Lucas step in when Kathleen Kennedy was single handedly undoing all that makes this universe. Enjoyable. Absolutely not he led that ship sinks that could be one day resurrected the right way down the road. Secondly, you'll being given his promotion because clearly aurthority figure see something worthy in you does a leader ask another leader to command their battalion negative. This is simply another challenge in your quest to rise to power any advance in your workplace course. You'll ask point halfway correct but allow me to expand on the alternative direction I mentioned before. Definitely dropped tasks but don't just wait for him to let his cowardice bring you down. This is when I would implement one of my very own rules of thumb. It's a simple fall step process to help you through situation such as this in almost any other you might find yourself in I, call it the law of Vader step one violate you want to approach this person and violate all that he holds dear, his space, his values etcetera instill as. Much fear into this person is also this always makes for the quickest and most efficient results step to amputate. This could be a finger in all on a leg I usually stick with whatever than having to be closest to you. Once the violation stages complete this finally leads us to step three dictate explain how things are going to go explained to him that if he does not comply and continues to refuse the tasks at hand, he will lose his hand. Finally. Stood full renovate. Obviously, something was not working with this pitiful mouth Breda. Once he completes the tasks, you should wipe the slate clean and by wipe the slate clean I mean stab him through the ear with your lightsaber. If you have no Lightsaber, a ballpoint pin should do the trick. Renovate the system and appoint someone of your choosing to take his place I wouldn't be surprised if you'll master was so impressed your tactics that he immediately bestows second promotion upon you. Well fodder. Hope this helps now I need to get back to work and take my own advice. It sure would be a shame Pahlavi's of apprentice fell down escalator. Oakham on that was a good one. Be sure to tune in every other week from orange cities advice here since thanks for listening to close encounters of the slur collided. Remember there is great power in the side of the.

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NPR News: 04-05-2020 4AM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 7 months ago

NPR News: 04-05-2020 4AM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Nora Raum. The State of New Jersey has reached a grim milestone as the number of deaths from the corona virus continues to climb New Jersey now has lost about one hundred more people to the virus. The mistake lost in the nine eleven terrorist attacks. Npr's ceremony Caman has more. New Jersey is one. The states hit hardest by cove in nineteen the state also lost more residents to the September. Eleventh two thousand one attacks than any other state but New York now New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy Says. The number of deaths from the virus has already outpaced. The hundreds lost on nine eleven. Please let that sink in for a moment. This pandemic is writing one of the greatest tragedies in our state's history Murphy says the State is working to expand hospital capacity as New Jersey continues to face a shortage of medical equipment and staff with Palm Sunday and several other major religious holidays approaching. The governor is asking residents to find a way to observe those holidays at home Sarah McCamman. Npr News Johns Hopkins University report. There are more than three hundred twelve thousand cases of cove in nineteen in the US. More than eight thousand. Five hundred people have died. The coral princess has docked in Miami with eighteen hundred passengers and crew on board including twelve. Who tested positive for the virus to passengers have died although the cruise line is not identify? Release the cause of death. Jennifer glass reports Princess cruise lines is telling its guests. It could take two more days to get them off the ship. The latest stricken with Corona virus passengers must undergo a health screening then go through customs and immigration at the cruise terminal. Then get back onto the ship to await in order to finally disembark. That's not expected to begin until Sunday. Because of lack of flights the cruise line says the decision to dock in Miami was last minute after Fort. Lauderdale port everglades refused permission. The ship has been at sea for about a month. Passengers have been confined to their cabins since Tuesday in addition to Americans there also travelers from the UK Canada Australia and New Zealand among other countries on board for NPR news. I'm Jennifer glass new SMYRNA beach. Florida Italy is seeing a bit of good news in the numbers of the virus outbreak. The rate of new deaths has slowed over the last four days. Npr Sylvia Jolie reports. The death toll is more than fifteen thousand. The total number of cases is close to one hundred twenty five thousand Civil Protection Chief on journal Lisa. The number of patients in intensive care drop for the first time since the epidemic was revealed at the end of February officials believe Italy has reached a plateau ahead of an expected decline in the near future. Close to two hundred thousand. People have been charged for violating the lockdown and nearly four hundred persons who tested positive have been charged for violating their quarantine orders risking for years in prison for endangering. Citizens Health Soviet POHJOLA. Npr News. Row this is. Npr News International law enforcement agencies are warning that cybercriminals are taking advantage of the increasing dependence on the Internet during the corona crisis. Teri SCHULTZ REPORTS INTERPOL has sent out a worldwide warning to its one hundred ninety four member countries about increased attacks on hospitals and medical services. Interpol's cybercrime threat response team detects what it calls. A significant increase in ransomware attacks as the corona virus pandemic has spread perpetrators use primarily fake emails to get access to computer systems and then lockout hospitals and healthcare providers unless they pay exorbitant sums. The European police agency reports seeing assert of illicit medical items being sold on the dark web as people panic about preventing or treating infection TERI Schultz reporting. A search will resume this morning in the Chesapeake Bay in Maryland. For the daughter and grandson of former Maryland Lieutenant Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend Maeve Townsend McCain and eight year. Old Son had been missing Thursday when they failed to return from a canoe ride. The canoe is later found. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend is the niece of the late president. John F. Kennedy. A small private funeral was held in Atlanta yesterday for civil rights. Leader the Reverend Joseph Lowry who died March twenty seventh at the age of ninety eight. His family said he died of natural causes unrelated to the corona virus. Lowry had marched with Martin Luther King Junior and the civil rights movement of the Sixties and seventies the service CAM on the fifty second anniversary of King's assassination. I'm Nora Raum. Npr News in Washington.

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David Blair

Megan Publishing Services Podcast

05:05 min | 1 year ago

David Blair

"David blair today's unique coauthor interview is with a very special american writer mr david blair so let's get started right away one name david blair website w._w._w. Dot dragons clouds dot com to country origin united states three. Do you prefer to read a particular genre. I like whole genres forty right in the same. I'm john laura if not which one i have written a fantasy a western and a contemporary crime drama five have you always written and and what got you started professionally. I got involved in storytelling in the eighth grade. I wrote directed and starred in a student film called destination destiny. I then picked up writing again in my early thirties. A movie producer friend of mine challenged me took a write a screen play and from that point on. I was hooked six. How many books have you published one dragons in the clouds. My first published work although i do have other completed manuscript s- waiting in the wings seven which one would you like to tell us about dragons in the clouds of course eight. Why did you write this book. What is it about dragons in the clouds. I started out as a project for puff. The magic dragon knight beloved song recorded by a peter paul and mary. I was having lunch with the hair stylist for universal movie producer. Kathleen kennedy's has stylist. I mentioned is that i was working on a story based on puff. Then about a month later i read in variety. The industry magazine that kennedy had bought the rights to puff needless to say that taught me a lesson to keep my mouth shut dragons in the clouds epic adventure that takes place in a time when dragons were alive live and freely roamed the land the people during this time. We're getting eaten by a vicious specie of dragon. The meat eaters the ruling king of this period finally orders the total annihilation of all living dragons a powerful wizard named merlin ius does not agree with the king's order fault. He knows that all dragons are not what they seem from earliest friends to a species of dragons the plan teeters so to protect his dragon and friends melania scraps family of dragons the spell of weightlessness and then tells them to fly up and to hide in the cover of the clouds and for them to only he come down at night to feed an unforeseen ability of the dragons weightless spell is that they're fired now looks like that of lightning and they're all now sounds like thunder thunder and apprentice to the wizard who has grandeur of his own has meat-eating dragons hidden deep within a cave and he too gives them the same spell of weightlessness now enters a widowed mother and her young son who also has befriended dragon though a very young woman they suddenly find themselves caught between the king's order and the battle that has begun between latouche species of dragons battled that will determine control of the skies above the kingdom of albion. The apprentices plan has consequences that may bring the kingdom and perhaps the very world we live in today to a devastating end nine book covering s._p._n. And slash acid dragons in the clouds i._s._p. N. minus thirteen nine hundred seventy eight one nine hundred forty nine one thousand eight hundred and nine seventeen six cecil b o seven k c q eight thousand one hundred and seventy three ten. What would you like your next book. Okay to be on. I have a contemporary crime drama. I am excited to publish titled meaner than the devil eleven. If you could go anywhere in the universe us where would you go and why the center of the milky way. I heard that is the center or origin of the universe. The nebula would also be awesome some to get a closer look at twelve. Is there anything you can share about yourself. All your work that not many people know. I love to write when i get in those zone. I could write for hours dollars thirteen. What is your favourite foreign food tossup between italian and mexican food forty nine you or have you ever been terrorist. Hurting people as evil wouldn't have any part of that fifteen have you ever accidents called your spouse partner by the name of a character in your latest book candidates so what was his or her reaction l. o. l. No you can read are if you have dragons in the clouds by david blair on this site here megan publishing services dot com you can buy dragons in the cloud loud spy david blair on this site here meghan publishing services dot com.

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Hollywood Is Canceling Everything But Remaking Clueless? The Morality of Watching True Crime

/Film Daily

45:03 min | 2 years ago

Hollywood Is Canceling Everything But Remaking Clueless? The Morality of Watching True Crime

"Hello, everyone and welcome to slash home. Daily for Friday, October twenty six two thousand eighteen today's episode. We're in talk with the latest, film and TV news. This is last film editor in chief Peter Surata, inviting me to his podcast is slash home, senior writer, Ben Pearson. Hey, what's going on in writers? Why trimbe in Chris evangelist alot? We have a lot of news to get to it is Friday. And if we if we held any of this off until Monday, Monday, it'd be kicked Tuesday because of the water cooler, so we gotta get it tried to get through all of this day as we we have a lot of news on. Remakes that Hollywood probably shouldn't be doing and a bunch of things that Hollywood is canceling. So, but before that let's get to a project that I'm actually very interested in. This is a DreamWorks announced they are turning one of my favorite board games into an animated movie. HD tell us about it. Yeah. G Mike's animation is in find on the Goshi to the movie rights to mice and mistakes, which is a board game by Jerry Hawthorn at the rule of playing game that of three years ago, you Peter drew a wishlist sorts to say to say, which which board game deserved a movie adaptation, and this was number one on that list, number one. But in my right up I said for you Mark should make an animated film based on this Ford game. So I'm bragging on the towers, Peter. We ask this is a role playing game in which the heroes are residents of a castle who had been turned to mice. And they're fighting the racing through a vast castle to break the curse of evil Vanessa and fighting off several rats, cockroaches, spiders, and the castle cat along the way if talks go through for this film, the hills have eyes and horns director, Alexandra is such direct scripts by the command screenwriter, David Leslie, Johnston with vertigo Entertainment's, ROY Lee and John Berg set to produce. This is very much like a fantasy film starring you know, rodents it's kind of like most guard, which is also in development with the who Westfall I think and this game is a great family game. Although, you know, I am an adult, and I played this with my friends and has a story, and it it's a whole lot of fun. But. Yeah. So I'm excited see this happening. But the director doesn't seem like a choice you'd think for something like this. Chris do you think? The director of who is a high-tension. Yeah. This is a very weird choice because he tends to direct very ultraviolent our films to maybe he's trying to branch out. I don't know. I mean, then again, you know, gore Pinski who directed the piracy Caribbean films and occur who wellness also directed mousehunt. So people people have range, you never know this your had alive off doing the house with a clock in its walls. So who knows I will link my list of board games that should be movies in the show notes bullets move onto a bunch of things the Hollywood probably shouldn't be remaking that start first with clueless. It seems like a Hollywood has moved onto clueless for remake for for some reason Chris tells, but yes, so paramount is exploring a clueless remake for some reason. A girl's trip producer. Tracey Oliver is going to produce the film and one of the writers of glow. The very good. Netflix series is writing the film the script, and there's a whole lot of info. But we can we can probably safely assume that clueless which is a very nineties film is going to be updated for the twenty first century. And it will involve the snap chats, and the tenders and all the stuff that kids like these days. So this is a bad idea because clueless IRA Saint it perfect film. But it's a very good film. And the fact that it's a a perfect time capsule of the nineties is what makes the original so special and to update it to the twenty first century just seems like a bad idea. I'd rather they just make a new high school iconic highschool movie for the twenty first century. But I guess that takes a lot of effort, and they'd rather just remake something. Yeah. We are. Talking in the slack. I think clueless is the movie that kind of defines the nineties in the high school movie genre where you know, mean girls probably defines the two thousands. And we're actually trying to figure out do we come to the conclusion what we're now almost nine years into the two thousand and tens to we have a high school movie, that's the defining highschool movie of this generation. The Christmas thing I can think of is easy. A which is a fine movie, but not icon IQ in the way that clueless or mean girls were and it's kind of I I feel like a lot of the teams have moved to TV. So maybe that's why I was talking to some one of my friends at net last night. And she said that a doubt the TV show pretty little liars is is what defines this generation in Zoe I wash episodes of that. And it was fun kind of soapy trash, but that's interesting. Yeah. But I love clue its closest such a classic movie. I I mean, it's not the greatest movie of all time. But I think honestly, the only flaws in that movie from a perspective of today is the technology is kind of out of date. And that's the only thing I think that they could possibly, but I feel like that's the charm of that move gearing the big flip phones. And yeah, I liked it that it's dated. I mean, you know, and it's funny because it was a satire to at the time of how media crazy these young teens were and the the scene where they were she were share and Dion like are talking to each other on the phone in the hallway of supposed to be satirical and not very common. But now, it's it was actually quite prophetic. It's a great. It's a great movie. I'm just trying to think if there's any interesting way to turn this. So maybe a clue starring guys. I that doesn't make it. I don't know then they can think is if they make it like a period piece, and they make you know, how like in the early two thousands. We had a rash of movies that were sitting the eighties. And it was like look at how crazy the eighties were. And maybe they're going to do that. But that would be even more pointless because the original movie is just that. But that's the only thing I can think of. The itself is an adaptation of Emma to like the modern adaptation of Emma by Jane Austen. So making it a period piece would feel like, you know, the snake eating its own tail in a way that would be very odd. Yeah, for sure which is not something that Hollywood hasn't done before. Ben, do you have any thoughts on this? No, I was just going through a list of movies from the two thousand ten that were set in highschool, and there really isn't anything that jumps out at me as like even approaching the level of the film that you guys have mentioned. So I don't know I feel like Hollywood sort of fallen off in that category a little bit. And maybe that has to do with sort of like what we were talking about with the baseball films not too long ago on the podcast like the idea of these movies being so specific to American culture that maybe they don't sell as well overseas. So maybe they're more difficult to make these days in the the sort of international. The international heavy you have to factor that in these days to getting a project made. So I don't know. Maybe that's the culprit here. Do you think that there's a possibility that we're still in the two thousand ten of we just can't see, you know, the tree for the for. You know, we we can't see it. Or is there? Also, the possibility that. Even a young one H T. He's not young to to be on the the touch, the feeling the pulse. Pulse. Yeah. I mean, I I'm not I don't think I was talking to my teen cousin earlier. And I'll starting all these new terms about Snapchat that I never knew I'm I'm very out of out of touch with that generation. I feel like, but every generation is kind of get old and Myers Lee when it comes to the next coming generation. I mean, it does take time. I feel like, you know, mean girls wasn't as conic as it considered. Now that came out in what two thousand I don't even know, I think so. I it might take time. I mean, you know, maybe there is stuff now that years from now people are going to be like that's a classic. But we don't realize it yet. Who knows? Yeah. And if anybody out there has an answer Turk question that you know is a really good answer send it to Peter slash on the com-. And maybe we'll read it in a future episode. But let's move on to another thing that Hollywood is remaking that I don't think it. She is too happy about in. That is my hero, academia itchy. I've heard you talk about this in the past tell us about this. So legendary pictures has begun developing a my hero academia live action v based on the wildly popular manga and anime series. Which is currently I think taking the world by storm and has become one of the most popular anime series today. And it's kind of it's a really interesting series in that it's like the Japanese take on marvel and DC superheroes. It's it's all these elements of Marv. Superheroes. Dc? Superheroes thrown into a blender with like Shonen manga, and it's hilarious. And so fun. Kind of like X men meets Harry Potter in a way because it follows the protagonist in the elite school that trains them to become the next generation of superheroes. So legendary pictures is starting to develop a live action movie based on this. There's no director or writer attached yet. But this is kind of controversial because to be honest. This movie has already been made in Hollywood. And that is the two thousand five American superhero comedy sky, high which is entertaining movie. I can't in good confidence say that is a good movie. But it basically the same template as my who here academia, and it has the same sort of. The B hypoc Connectik vibe as my hero Damian. And Hollywood as well has not really had a great tracker with anime adaptations, even if they have the same people that are adapting the polka Amman detective Pika chew movie. I mean, you have no faith in them. I mean, they're also I will give them the benefit of the doubt in some cases because they were behind Pacific rim franchise, which is kind of the best embodiment of anime brought to a live action life. But I think that's mostly thanks to gamble though. Taro and his love for the the the John Russo. It's something that I don't really know. It'll do well. I don't know what the detective could you movie will look like it. Just sounds Wieder. And to me the more. I learn about it. So we'll see so you being a big fan of this intimate. Will you be excited to watch live action? Co two adaptation of it. Listen, I don't know how many years ago this was, but there is that dragon ball the live action adaptation in which they have a completely white cast with like one or two Asian characters as the toke. Pins, and it was horrible. And it had just it was a a basement for for animate adaptations. And I kind of get the sinking feeling that why here academia will be the same. I think that anime in a lot of senses isn't really suited to being a debt to live action, especially my who academia, which really falls into a lot of the anime specific tropes that you see in serious like Naruto or bleach which beach actually ended up doing well as a live action one. But it just don't I don't know if it'll make the transition to allies out to the live action screen. Well, will I will see you do make a good point like animation as a medium, the reason why they pick, you know, these enemies or even like Disney picks what they choose to develop, you know, into stories for their animated films. They're basing it based on that medium if they could actually use that. AM to full list, and how in usually, you know, I mean we've seen with some of these intimate innovation to animate at a at a fish to live action that doesn't translates. Well, maybe it is better a product of that medium. But let's move onto a bunch of things that Hollywood is cancelling that seems to be what's happening today. First off, let's talk about the Boba fett movie, then tell us about it. Yes. So last night Kathleen Kennedy, the president of Lucasfilm attended a special award season screening of Black Panther. And while she was there, a journalist went up to her and asked about a status update about the Boba fett movie. And apparently, Kathleen Kennedy said that the movie is one hundred percent dead, and they are one hundred percent focusing on the Mandal orient, which is the new TV series that Jon Favreau is working on for Disney play, which is Disney's upcoming streaming service. So. That basically. Slams the coffin shuts on a Boba fett movie, we've been talking about this movie since I think early twenty thirteen like pretty soon after Disney bought Lucasfilm and started developing ideas, for what star were stories they wanted to tell this movie has gone through a bunch of ups and downs. Even though Disney never officially technically announced it the real thing. But we've heard so many reports over the years about people who might be in it or people who might be directing it and most recently James Mangold, the director of Logan was in talks to write and directed. And now it sounds like that's not going to be happening. I mean, at least anytime soon, it's possible. Of course, that after the man DeLorean is done they could, you know, go back to the well and give Boba fett of movie at that point. But that seems like it's probably years away at this. You know at this stage or they could maybe slot. But with that into another movie, but it seems like as of right now if this report is accurate, Kathleen Kennedy is not interested in making a Boba fett. Movie. Right. The second or as I speculated he could show up in the middle or in, but I'm actually more. So I'm not surprised that the both of movie is a one hundred percent dead. I'm more surprised that someone Kathleen Kennedy would actually confirm to someone one hundred percent debt. Usually, you know, when you ask executive anything like they try to keep hope alive. Even when like, you know project has been completely show. There could happen some day. Yeah. But let's move onto arrested development, which could be ending a net. Flicks. Chris you wrote a story for this. David cross who plays Tobias on arrested development appeared on the late night with Seth Meyers podcast, which I guess is the thing and said after the second half of season five airs, which will probably be at the beginning of next year. It's it's probably unlikely the show will return he didn't really give he just said, there's a variety of reasons why it probably won't happen, and you could draw your own conclusions there, obviously Jeffrey tambor is on the show has become a bit toxic after sexual harassment allegations from. Transparent. And also when when the cast of Seville was doing a press tour for the first half of season five which debuted on Netflix this year. It went really really badly where they did an interview in the New York Times and every male in the cast defended Jeffrey, tambor is onset antics development. And it looks really bad, and they all had to apologize later. So and the biggest reason is the shows is not good anymore. You know, those first three seasons on FOX were great. But it seems like almost everyone agrees that ever since net. Flicks saved the series. It just hasn't been what originally was the cast is too busy to really shoot together. So they always have to shoot around them. And it just it just does not work as well. So it seems very likely that if the second half season five airs that that'll be it's for development is anyone here. Sad that this could be coming. In. No, no, I didn't even watch the fifth season because I think Krista an early review of it. And was just like, it's not it. You know, it lost that magic. So I I watched the four season was very disappointed in that. So I'm just whenever I do re washes the series, I just stopped after season three and pretend that that's where it actually ends. Yeah. I'm in the same boat. I was very disappointed after season four and just kind of lost interest in it kind of tainted the show for me in a way. I was I had appreciated for the series. That's like another time capsule of the when it came out and felt like it was his dragging longer than it should have been. Okay. Let's move onto a more shocking cancellation, and this is for American vandal which has been cancelled by net flicks. But it could find life elsewhere somehow some somewhere someone can net flicks. This Netflix show each state tell us about it net has committed a true crime here. The series streaming giants has cancelled American vandal after two seasons. In a statement announcing the cancellation. It said American vendor will not return for a third season. Very great for the creators writers cast and crew for bringing the innovated comedy to net, flix, etc. But according to sources telling variety that other platforms might be looking to save American vandal date variety didn't name what platforms this would be. But it's possible that like Peter said another platform may be Hulu Amazon prime or even funnier die which helped produce the the series could net flicks. This Netflix series. Yeah. It's kinda crazy that what what is the reason that they're canceling this? Well, there's no official reason. But it's possible. According to this variety story that because American vendor was produced by. Outside studio. This could have led to its cancellation as net. Flicks is looking to produce more projects in house for control of the global rights of those titles. And it's maybe is despite the critical acclaim in the word of mouth it. We don't know Netflix is the ticks might not have done as well as their other series. It's interesting because I hear so much buzz about this show. Like if I were to like judge like how many mentions of show is on my Twitter feed. I would think that this is like one of the most watched Netflix shows. But obviously that's a bubble in. I've been putting off watching the show, and I listened to the the slash home cast last week, it Jeff cannot had just started diving in a he diving in late, and it was his reaction to the show that got me to want to watch the show. And now, I'm not sure if I should because it's cancel it's so good. I mean, the the seasons are actually. Nice. Well, contained stories because it it's kind of almost like an anthology series in that. It follows the to same high school documentarian, but they investigate a different crime. Every season the first being who do the Dick's the second being who was the third burglar. And Saul sounds very silly. But it's a great show. I can't believe that. It's Jeff cannata onslaught cast talk to get you to convince you to see it when we even raving about it fine. Peter. I am I am frankly offended this. I've been on the you know, what it is. Also, I've been on the edge for so long because if you guys, and I think it's also I've we've I've reached the point where I've finished watching all the stuff I wanted to watch. I don't have anything to watch. So yeah, I've been kind of looking for something new to watch been are you upset that they're canceling this? Yeah. I think so I mean, you know, it's one of those shows that is so good in concept and execution that I hesitate. I, you know, I certainly don't want it to go on for seven or eight seasons or anything like that. Because I feel like there's no way they can sustain the quality that they've established up to that point or up to this point. But I sure I would've loved to seen, you know, maybe one or two more seasons just to round it out and sees sort of health how much further they could stretch this while while keeping that quality level really high up. I mean, what do you think HD how if another company were to pick us up? How many seasons you think American vandal should have? I mean because of the premise it could go on forever. But college vandal or they could go overseas like London for like university or something in the. I don't know. Yeah. An American vandal in London. Also, got the title already just for that. Yeah. But Ben, I kind of agree with you. 'cause it's so clever and in so incisive and strangely perceptive about the high school experience that I want the quality to stay as high as it is. I would wish for maybe like at least five seasons. I just want this show to stay in my life because it provides me so much joy. And it's just it. I know people like maybe we're shy away from it because they don't enjoy high school comedies. But it is it is that that show that gets into the high school sort of society in pressures more so than like, even some of other Netflix this other dramas. Chris are are you upset? All right. I mean, I I watched the first season. I liked it. I have not gotten around at the second season yet. So I'm not devastated. But I I've heard nothing but good things about it. So it is kind of disappointing. But I I guess we'll see what happens. Okay. Let's talk about something that has upset you. And that is the film struck is shutting down next month. Tell tell us why. Just. Yeah. I'm very upset about this film struck if you don't know, and there's a good chance you dope because it doesn't have enough. Subscribers is a really great films streaming service. I think it's actually the best around it. Streams more obscure titles more classic movies. It's the home of the criterion collection streaming and it just does not have enough enough subscribers. So Warner media who owns it is shutting it down next month, and that sucks, I was hoping you would stay around longer. But it's just too much of a Nisha service. I guess, and that's really all there is to it. They're shutting down by the end of November. So if you have films struck enjoy it now while you can because it'll be gone very soon. So do you think that the program the program that's offered on film struggling to obscure for general Eddington's? I don't know. Maybe just not enough people. Oh about it. I don't really know how people approach through streaming services. These days everyone has net flicks. I think, but I don't know if people realize how much is out there and at the same time, I don't know if people can afford, multiple streaming services. I mean, I have multiple services, and I'm not exactly well to do in the financial department. So you know, I just don't know if people can really afford it. I don't know how many people know about film struck. And yet there's this. This is a very obscure service in the sense that it doesn't offer blockbusters. It doesn't offer original programming. Like Netflix still has its classic movies. And I don't know what the market is for that. I wish the market was better for it. But it just seems like maybe only. Hardcore Sinophile would be drawn to this. And I don't know how many there are out there. We know Warner Brothers is going to be launching their own streaming service. Do you think that these offerings might be lumped into that it would be really stupid if it weren't because they have the rice to them, they I'm hoping will happen. But that service isn't supposed to launch till the end of two thousand nineteen. So I don't know why I wish they had somehow managed to keep this going until then I guess, I just don't have the money. I don't know. I mean, they have enough money for multiple joker films, but not this. I want to point out that this is the second sort of niche streaming service. That Warner media has suddenly shut down in the past month. They recently a shattered the popular cage on a streaming service drama fever, which started off as an independent sort of a fan run Jiming service. And then eventually got bought by beer companies and went to Warner media. And that was a really controversial kind. A big thing that happened in like the Cagiva community because it shuttered without notice it just the site with suddenly not there one day, and it Jonah fever also has like several shows that hit it exclusively acquired was showing exclusively to US audiences. So these subscribers were left without like knowledge of where the where they could see finish watching their shows, and they were refunded. But it's a kind of it seems kind of like it's one or media preparing for their own streaming services. Then just shutting down all they're more niche ones. But it's kind of it's it's a little bit unfortunate that that's the case. Because there are I feel like they're almost alienating potential subscribers by shutting down these services so early and it's also weird because I feel like the promise of the new media was that we would get channels in content that is more knee in more. Like, you know, you could find your like subset of subset corner. That has like some kind of you know, that just that content. But it seems like none of that is working. Maybe maybe it just doesn't work in the big sense for like big studios. Maybe has to maybe some small company has to come out and actually like, no license this content. But I guess they saw you know, the service you you were talking about HD soul to eventually sold to Warner. So yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure how how that's gonna work but let let's talk a little bit about streaming services. Because this new article out there talking about how they are actually destroying holy Wood's. Middle-class Ben you kind of did a write up for this on slash on dot com. Explain why are streaming services destroying Hollywood's middle-class. Yes. So fast company published? It's really really great article that really explores the shifting entertainment landscape, and how the middle class of Hollywood a lot of the people whose named you don't know actors names, you don't know and writers and people that are not people like Ryan Murphy or shonda rhimes or like these big A-List kinds of heavy hitters are the ones that are really suffering in this changing industry. And the streaming wars are a big part of the reason why so part of it comes from the fact that traditional seasons of television used to be, you know, twenty two or twenty four episodes long, but a lot of the streaming sites. Have sliced the episode countdown to eight or ten or thirteen episodes or something like that. So these mid level writers aren't working on a show for as long as they used to when they get hired onto a job. So like, I said those those big named people who have these huge producing deals. Are fine. But the people who are sort of in the trenches doing the actual work of writing. The episodes are now being forced to fill the gaps by maybe trying to find another job in the same year, whereas previously they could have just worked on one TV show a year and had enough to support themselves and their families. But now with the increase in all of these streaming services, you know, Amazon, Hulu CBS all access Facebook watch, apple all this stuff. There are more shows and more writing jobs out there. But there are also their way more competitive those jobs because all of these people are now working on shortened seasons, and they're all now competing to try to supplement their income, and the actor it's not just writers actors are feeling the effects of this as well. So the payment structure has changed a lot to residuals are which is basically like actors and writers getting paid for their work. Once they get aired on reruns and stuff like that. Those have basically gone away. Because all these streaming sites have are constantly producing new fresh content. All the time the TV networks traditional places that used to run reruns all the time are now airing less reruns because they are also trying to keep up with this constant race. That's happening. It's like an arms race in the entertainment industry and actors are sort of suffering in the process that, you know, again, people who are sort of these mid level actors who are not number one on the call sheet. It's not the the person who is leading the TV show. But it's the people who are sort of the supporting players, the fast company piece has this really great example, they use Allison Becker as an example, she's an actress who was on parks and recreation. She just got a job not too long ago on a new Netflix show where shoes the fifth person on the call sheet. So the she's not quite a series regular, even though she would have been in a traditional network TV show, but Netflix according to her. Her has just basically kept her in a guest star role instead of making her a series regular, and that changes the payment scale. And she the example she uses is that she says if I'd been number five on an NBC show. I'd be making thirty thousand dollars a week. But I was making nine hundred eighty dollars a week at Netflix by the time you pay out taxes, your manager agent and lawyer I was walking away with like two hundred dollars. So that's a pretty drastic shift that less money than someone that makes like driving Uber in Los Angeles. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So this is this is the an I encourage anybody who's interested in the industry to, you know, go to article in the show notes and link we linked to the fast company peace, and you can read the whole thing. There's there's a bunch of really good insights there that that we didn't really have time to get into in our piece. But yeah, it's a really good look at the kind of thing that we don't really talk about that much like the actual impact on real people that these changing land. Gapes half. So yeah, it's kind of a weird thing. It's very interesting in Etowah we've gotten through all these stories of recommend stories in a quick time that we're going to actually add on one more story here in that is opposed to jinx which is a show that Ben is really enthusiastic about. You did this article kind of updating us on what is happening in the real life consequences of that show those, but yeah, so there's a show on HBO called the jinx the life and death of Robert Durst that aired in twenty fifteen and it made headlines because of the show's really extraordinary ending which I think is honestly like one of the most astounding moments in TV history. It's a tremendous show, and I would really recommend like people. Pausing this episode going to watch the entirety of the jinx. Maybe check it out this weekend or something and then come back and listen to the rest of us because I'm going to spoil the real life events of what happened. At the end of the Sacramento, but it is a it's a series that followed this guy named Robert Durst who's a wealthy real estate heir in New York City, and he basically like kind of admitted to a bunch of murders at the end of the show, and it's unclear whether or not that actual the clip from that show will be used as evidence in a murder trial that he is currently embroiled in, but there's a new development in this case because the prosecution have asked the judge was handling the Robert Durst trial to allow them to use the DVD commentary track for a movie called all good things as evidence and all good things is a twenty ten movie directed by Andrew directives. The same guy who directed the jinx. And so he made all good things in twenty ten Ryan Gosling plays a character that is heavily inspired by Robert Durst, and the movie sort of tells Dir story. And largely focuses on the disappearance of his wife, Kathleen and this actually happened in nineteen eighty two Robert Durst wipe disappeared. And nobody knows what happened to her. But the theory is that he killed her and hid the body somewhere, and the real Robert Durst actually watched this movie, I'll good things and reached out to the director and said, hey, I really liked what you did with this film and agreed to meet up with him for an interview. And they ended up recording a commentary track for the DVD release. And then did a bunch of in person interviews that would later be become the jinx. So the prosecution wants to use the DVD commentary track for all good things as evidence in court case because they say that while Robert Durst was sitting there recording the commentary track and watching Ryan Gosling commit these crimes, they said, quote, Durst comments and at times his silence while viewing all good things. Constitute a tacit admission. Of guilt. They said after reading the script and watching this movie the defendant did not sue the production company, for slander, nor did he object to how the movie portrayed him and later on. They said something about like his failure to dispute any of the other damning allegations from the rest of the movie, manifest, his belief in the movies truth. It strains all credibility to suggest that a person being depicted as a serial killer would not have stood up and proclaimed the falsity of such allegations. So they're trying to convince the judge to to to use this DVD commentary in a court of law, which I've never heard of before. And yeah, I just thought that entire thing was I it's it's very much in keeping with the totally insane. Tone of these real life events set by the jinx and depicted in jinx. What do you guys think about this Peter should a DVD commentary track be allowed to be used in this way? Well, I mean. I don't think that someone. It's tough, right? Because I mean, that's like saying like, oh, we're gonna use OJ's. If I did it book in his hearings. And I don't know it's it's his is his participation in this commentary acknowledgement of anything, I don't know. I feel like they could use comments. He says in the the commentary track too. Proved things, but his participation in it and not suing the movie seems kind of like fit to me. I'm kind of right there with you. Chris. What do you think? I know you've seen the show. Yeah. The like, I I agree with peer in that comment should matter. But it's weird to be like the fact that he didn't say anything at all proves he's guilty. I mean, first of all I will say, I think Robert Durst is guilty. It's it's pretty clear that he probably did commit these crimes. But everyone deserves a a fair hearing in the eyes of the law. So it's a little weird to use. This Ben I know you intersectional the other day, we're kind of. Half confessing your love for this show. But on the other hand feeling guilty. Yeah. It's the same thing that happens with a lot of true crime stuff, honestly. And it's part of the reason why like American vandal so much because it's all fictional, and I don't have to feel that sense of guilt. But but yet the jinx for me was one of the big things that we came out right around the same time as cereal, and that was like for a lot of people what launched this, I guess current nationwide obsession that we have with true crime Jonah and making murderer to came out right around that same time the first season. So I was completely enthralled by the jinx. It was only I think six episodes or something. And I it was like one of my favorite things that I watched on TV that year. I did this huge deep dive into reading all of this real life stuff about Robert Dirksen and the trials and stuff that didn't make the show, but these crazy antics that he was into and participated in over the years, but like the guilt part comes in that all of this. Has been packaged into a piece of entertainment for my enjoyment. But there are very real consequences that come along with that like people were murdered people are actually dead because of this or because of this guy's actions allegedly. And so it just had me. Yeah. A little bit conflicted. Like, I, you know, I look back really fondly on watching the jinx and being so sucked into that story and doing all this research afterwards. But at the same time, I feel kind of bad about it because real people lost their lives at the process. I mean, this is even if you've never seen the Jason don't know anything about the case, I think that kind of thing can apply to the true crime genre in a more broad sense. What do you guys think about that? Do you feel similarly? But I don't think you're enjoying the murder. You're not enjoying that aspect of your enjoying the search for Justice. Right. Yeah. That's true. And like, the just the, you know, the whirlwind of it all like, the the like the incredible turns that that come in this case like the fact that this happened in real life, and are so many things in the show that happened where you're just like your jaws on the floor because he can't believe that this actually happened in real life. So yeah, I think it was just it's an it's an incredibly effective piece of storytelling and one of the best documentary kind of things that I've ever seen. Yeah. I know H T, and I have both seen this. And you chest. I you actually almost didn't want to do the story of the podcasts because you wanted us to see it with kids. I still I still do because there are so many things that I didn't say in my just, you know, verbal recap of what's going on that are these moments that I that are sitting there preserved in amber just waiting for you guys to to, you know, discover so I can't wait. And I really hope you take the time sometimes to to check out the show because it's like one of the most addicting things I've ever seen, and I hope that goes for the listeners out there who may not have seen it too. But I don't know there's nobody ever had that experience with with true crime stuff. I think I see what you mean. Ben, I think I kind of had that experience watching three identical strangers this past summer in which one of the persons of real mental illnesses used essentially as a third twist. And it's it's kind of a strange line that we walk with packaging, these real life stories and real consequences as entertainment, and I think that the other something to be to be said about that. But his probably it's a it's a complex issue unpack that we have to look inward to ourselves to to see like to kind of raffle with how we feel about this as entertainment versus this as truth telling our Justice or seeking Justice in that kind of way, Chris like is it worth it like Christie think it's worth it for stuff like this? It's a real slippery slope like when I was growing up. I was really obsessed with serial killers. And this will probably surprise. No. And I had I had this book. It was called like the a-to-z encyclopedia of serial killers. And you know, I would pull over to the book. Yes. Of course. I had that book. And you know, I it's very I don't know why people are drawn to it. I mean true crime is such a popular genre. And there's like entire chat. Like, there's a show called investigation discovery. And all they play is just true crime shows these reenactments shows where people are being brutally murdered and people break into houses and people love that stuff. And I don't know why it is. I wish I had an answer in L. And all I can say is I know myself, I know that I'm not saying, you know, killer. I know that I don't enjoy people suffering. So I'm able to compartmentalize that in a sense that like, I know I'm not deriving enjoyment from the act, I'm more deriving enjoyment from reading about someone telling me about the act, and I guess that's like the wall. I put between myself and the action. I know I know my girlfriend kit tra-, she one of her favorite podcasts. She listens to his podcast called my favorite murderer. I love that podcast the podcast, and she likes binge through that like over the last couple months, and like even the the name I have not I've only listened to it while she's being listened to it. But even the name of that kind of little bit rubs me the wrong way, because it's like, oh, my favorite, you know, you have a favorite murder like this is someone that actually got killed. But I don't know as a viewer. I don't really. I really haven't felt that kind of. Conflict that you have felt Ben I I will say I did mention, you know, making a murderer season to the first episode. They kind of talked to some of like Theresa hall book the victim of of that murder that is the subject of making a murderer season one. They talked to some of her like family and friends and kind of give you a glimpse into. How kind of that first docu series affected them? And that was the first time. I was like, oh, I never even thought about how something like this affects, you know, the the family and friends of the people involved. So that was kind of interesting, but I don't think there's actually a fix here. It's just like like, you guys have said, you know, it's just something. I think as she was saying to look inside yourself. It's just something it's worth thinking about. And it's I don't I'm not trying to change anybody's viewing habits. I'm still going to watch true crime stuff when something comes along that I'm interested in is just you know, something that that I think is worth considering when you are thinking about the show as a whole for sure. Well, that brings us to the end of today's slash on day. We have officially gone over. So we're not going to do all of our goodbyes. But you can find this podcast follows every weekday and I tunes Google play overcast Spotify all the popular podcast apps. Please feel free to send us your feedback. Questions. Comments concerns to Peter out slash on the come and please go to our agents wage rate and read this podcast. Tell your friends spread the word. We'll see you on Monday.

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The Mandalorian: This is the Way, I Have Spoken

Altered Geek

46:30 min | 10 months ago

The Mandalorian: This is the Way, I Have Spoken

"Here's who aren't big ATRO- listening to onto cake unlimited perfect excellent you tuned in to alter Geek hello and welcome to altered Geek. This is a continuing edition. I'm from last week. Where myself like Donovan? Alex join us to discuss the Mandal Laurean the bigness. That is the mandatory. Yes yes you mean. The only stars don't don't you know. Don't tell me anything else right now like I was I watched install eight episodes and then went okay. What's up so nine because I in my head? I didn't realize that I saw finale. Like that's a good finale. When there's just enough cliffhanger that it's not like overtly cliffhanger but you're like when's the next episode but anyway getting back to the The beginning of it. This is a really good show like we're talking. Game of thrones level production values which is like unheard of for something not. HBO This is something that it had been talked about. Since like the mid nineties always going to be a star wars live action TV shown it was thought to be unfilmable for years and the fact that we didn't didn't get a lot of leaks from this. A lot of this was kept under wraps nobody knew about frigging baby iota until the first episode premiered the the critics six were protected from it. We only saw the first twenty minutes of it at a press. Screening all the saw on November eighth when it came out and and the it was handled with care by day Baloney and Jon favreau and they were left alone and anybody who gives a third and fourth person others director. That's doing the she's doing the. Ob wants everyone furious. And tychy did I think two or three episodes of the voice of the robot the robot yeah he Take td did the first episode and the last episode. I think and yeah. He played G.. Eleven the girl. Who's doing the OBI you want? Series Direct drected the third episode which gave us a huge look into mandatory in culture. And we found out more about the The great purge and everything and how clan structure works and now after seeing that episode. I was like okay. I'm not worried at all one of the things. The show cost one hundred million dollars which is think sounds like crazy but not in the days of like game of thrones and all these shows causing that kind of money now even ten years ago like a season season of show was generally around fifty million to produce but that was for twenty two episodes for like CSI or something like that so the fact that these are eight episodes that cost one hundred million. They're smart they're variable length. Some episodes of thirty one minutes long. Some are forty eight minutes long. It's however long the story dictates is is what makes it so. It's all the more amazing that they did Roughly I would say he was five to six hours of television for one hundred million dollars that you know it's not. I don't think it's my opinion. I think the consensus is this looks. Better than rise. skywalker at rises skywalker. Cost Two hundred seventy million because there's there's less green screen. It's almost all physical. Yeah it's almost all practical effects. I mean and they insisted baby. Yoga be practiced a a practical effect. It's only the is blinking. Cg Right I think so. I'm not one hundred percent sure on that I mean I can't wait to get the inevitable book on the Mental Oregon. I would love to get The like a BLU ray. Saturday like this might be the first show that Disney warrants a four K.. Released four because like it's so fan and there's got to be a wealth of behind the scenes productions on this now not just for how how good it looks and and and the sound design and everything the pacing. We've talked in in the past about how bad the pacing has been on the star wars movies. This this is paced perfect for TV. Show that it's not slow in that you're going to get bored award but it's not so fast paced as a space western should be. Yeah and I I really really enjoy it On a whole I wasn't too keen on the idea to begin with To be honest and I really like his character. Like the some of their memorable lines. That came out of it instead of like the May the full speed with you. It's it's you know this is the way or I have spoken which I have fun using against Blanchard but you will do. Who is I say no I? Won't I have spoken in the end the call but no I mean I enjoyed that. I liked the Jolla episode. Yep where he's late popping him off with the crawler. Even the Color Palette looks more like it's not as it reminds me of the original trilogy. Yeah exactly it feels like the OT. And I looked does this film digitally but they're they're using a muted color Palette on purpose. It's like what if you mix the color Palette of rogue one and and empire together. That's what you get so like not to mention. They got some famous actors in this that I was not expecting and I purposely didn't really wanna read who was going to be in it but like Nick Nolte came out of nowhere and and it kind of looks like they didn't do too much makeup his character and then you you have Gina Carano like the first the first big woman to be in it so that she didn't have to worry about getting stub woman to do her work. and Ah for somebody WHO's like a a fighter. Essentially she's a surprisingly good actress. Like she's way better than Ronda. Rousey is ever going to be Yeah like like significantly. They if you didn't know she was a fighter and you just saw her her works and she's become an actress you just think. Oh she's a a woman action star like you wouldn't think of the fact that she used to beat people up for a living. Yeah you wouldn't think about that at all then you've also got Giancarlo Esposito in the last few episodes as the The moth and he's fantastic and everything and if you for those who don't know who that. Name aimed gusts from For breaking Then you've got the the man himself Pala creeds in it although when I see him all I can think of is is his character from arrested development from Predator. I you think of him from happy. Gilmore you son of a bitch. Why am I drawn a blank on his actual name though? Oh no car. Weather's Carl weathers and he's great. Happy Gilmore you look great for the Seventies. I'll tell you that. Like in really good shape but still able to do all the the action stuff himself and could could not have thought of better casting than Pedro Pascal as the mandatory himself. He's going to have a stellar year. He has he's finishing off the year with season. One of this Ending he then is going to be the The main antagonist I believe for wonder woman eighty four and he has that nineteen eighty smart down Pratt and then come September or October. We've got another season of the mandatory him isn't he in June two or my. I believe he might be like He. He is an intimate like an and most of us like he's he was a somewhat. You know decent character actor but for a while now but most of us really got to know him Playing overrun on the season. Four of game of thrones. Yeah one of the most memorable characters in the show and probably one of them like everybody dies in that show so what he's one of the most memorable deaths and and to the point where people were mad. I want more of him. It's like that's how you know he's a good actor And did you see his Interview just came out recently I forget which comic event was at but he was talking about how when he was asked. Ask and it's funny. We only really know him from like He. He puts on a fairly thick Mexicans. Sort of accent almost everything. He plays kind of characters. He's place but he has no accident at all when he talks. And it's hilarious. He's like he was interviewed. I was brought in and The you know they're like would you like to play you. You know he's like I saw these pictures on the walls from Star Star. Wars think it was like I was a little kid again and He's he goes. We should like we the place somebody and they're like the delorean and he goes wait. What fucking kidding me you okay? I'll do route. And he's like he was always like sheepishly grinning in my head. I'm like Oh my God. Oh my God oh my God so like you couldn't cast him better and even all unlike other factors that bits and pieces here the only ones that sort stood at where. I didn't know there was Boston and space but apparently there is bill for the person And the curb himself Anti Brown clancy Brown plays a devil. Man which is not too much of a stretch the WHO is the the the woman. Yeah she was. The woman who played Nymph Fidora tongs and Harry Potter but was also offshot. Shot in game of thrones. Oh it was wildly. Yeah okay why. Sort of recognized species makeup on and the one that played her brother. I couldn't figure out who that was. I ah he's a character but like it was a fairly small cast all things considered but very very well done and then of course a ah out of the blue you have famous German director playing her. Why is this German director in this? And then I realized why not because he has a sinister German voice so they also had The the voice actor for Anikin skywalker being the rebel pilots. Oh Yeah I forgot about that too yet. Like this show had some of the strongest strongest supporting cast. I've seen in a really long to end. It never distracted from the episode itself. I was real os really kind of sad that MiG nal win. Didn't get the do more in episode five where she was the imperial assassin on the run but still that was cool plus I went back to Tattoo because why not but yeah. There wasn't a lot of wasted time in this show. There is one Easter Egg I think it will become come more relevant and season to where you see character die in the desert somebody with boots and a Cape approaches. But that's not a moth off character because the costumes different There was rumors it was fat. It's probably not but I think that will become relevant next season. Definitely definitely and and I'm not somebody who was into the Like e you stuff but from what I've been reading. They're saying that like Oh a stall all the stuff that it was taken away as not being canon anymore they're kind of reintroducing bits and pieces through this show yeah like it would not surprise me to see more E. U. elements a stab washed. Like the fact that we got live-action dark sabre Holy Shit ever. I saw that that was cool. I was like I have no idea what I had to go. Look it up. I'm like that's not. A lightsaber is closed. And then they had it in Rebels well then I looked at I was reading. So basically basically was the first Mandel Laurean that became a jet. I made it right then and then became a ruler with an iron fist. So the question in here being Is is the moth is he actually assists. No he took it during the siege of Manda. Lor Okay so that's so took it it as a symbol of power. So he doesn't really know how to wield it. The guy took so it in my head like I've had dream like it's been a while since I've dreamt about a TV show. Oh probably since game of thrones but like I had a dream where I was like. We were finishing seat four or five seasons of of of manned Laurean and how AH in my dream. How the show ended was Pedro? Pascual's character dies one as a as an older man WHOA flashes forward at its? We're talking because when this takes place it's twenty years have gone by He dies and and it ends with them. Revealing the man delorean will return in a movie. You're like how and then it just shows a adolescent teenager IOTA WTA putting on the Mend Laurean like Ma- like our armor armor and helmet and then pulling out a lightsaber and that'd be like Holy Shit but the lightsaber being like one of those neutral ones like like the Because their explanation is there's no more jet either. There's no more really a neutral party and that's how they could work character into being in the present they can is basically weekly. He's gone at screwed off to another planet has nothing to do with you. Know basically being bounty hunter and hiding the fact that he is a force user Djeddai. Yeah like there's so many possibilities for this show to open up into the expanded universe that une generally the Mandalay and made me excited it to be a star wars fan again and I haven't been able to say that with the new movies at all Mike. The Force Awakens had me excited for awhile last jet. I kind of left asked me film. Little cold rises skywalker. See last week's episode but the Mand Laurean mad the excited in the gap was so much. So how wow. And they run star wars game for my friends. Yeah could you imagine how how incredibly mad and bad off fans would be. If there wasn't this show and rises skywalker out how down on the franchise everybody would be I feel like this is single handedly. Saving the franchise from the disaster that the movie and Yes. The movie's GonNa make a lot of money. And yes there's going to be you know forty percent or fifty percent of people that ended up liking it but I'm feeling like the hardcore fans are really people at any anybody that uses their brain for logic. We have friends. They loved it and all I can think of. Why are they? So they're so. Oh aw you're not to beat me. But they're fucking retarded like I swear we have friends very close friends that we podcast with like it. And I'm like what's wrong with you like it's like. Did we see the same movie. 'cause I'm wondering like I thought you were an intelligent person but kind of kind of like okay. You can like what you WanNa like but you you don't really have any reasons to like it That make any sense. This is going to be the saving grace of the franchise now as long as Kathleen Kennedy doesn't give her dirty paws into it and treat it really try to change. Things received two just because he was hands off here here. It's all. I think it's all going to depend on Having Fabio to play interference between studio interference appearance and the creative direction that the director and the writers want to go. He has enough clout to do that but if he decides that he wants to remove himself from the show they then I would start to get very got problems. Because there's there's really nobody else like that has that amount of clout with With Disney proper or with marvel proper to to run interference against her or any other corporate meddling Sam The animals wonder if they're going to They're going to leave him alone per se because he's done couple of Disney. His new movie has done a couple of movies. He's done now. He's doing star wars a the pretty much everything he touches turns into gold. So I mean it'd be it would be nice if they if because Kathleen Kennedy has to be honest. It's not not trying to rag on her. She has other jobs she's doing there. I almost feel like she has her hands in too many. I need the pious. Maybe she should be an executive overhead. Like you know she's just overseas certain things maybe have a few properties Blah Blah. Has US under your belt but maybe leave because even promote or give the position to grow as you know head of the head of star wars creative moving forward. Just to have a cohesive vision. I can see it. I would be a really good idea. I mean because they let people with a vision and create a through line have a very strong strong say and yeah. I think we'll be okay when she could have like. She can still have the final name on the credits as executive producer to make yourself feel good but it would also insulate her from any negativity and she probably would like that. She's had enough negativity going forward and looking at what five rows done for them Like he made the the iron man one and two films which made them. What what Looks like between the iron man wanted to. He made them one point. Two billion no to budgets. He may have a billion dollars on talk of. That's after taking the budget to count. And then he made them the jungle book movie The new one live action. That made them Eight hundred million in cash like pure cash. And then he made the lion king for them and that made the one point four billion profit so like he's made more he's made more money for them than Kathleen can be ever did to be honest she she manages the money's there and hasn't really made any money but he's one of the guys who's producing directing in writing and making them like he's made them more money than probably any other director in the last since the merger so that would be nice when she went to bed season two they will bring Boba Fett this. They're bringing other established. I think they'd be stupid you too. I think leaving him. Dad's probably good idea or save him for the final. It'll be one of the huts. They bring Oh yeah hot. They are talking lucky about that now because they've brought in the marine guards who are kind of known to be like enforcers for the huts so them going to not now hotta or Arshad would be a really smart idea. How smart would it be? If they brought in a jar jar I think waited terrible idea judger but make them serious. The completely changed the character by a gun. Gun Crime Lord or something you know what I mean like somebody has duggan's gins young the universe at large who are not as nice as jar jar. What's so yeah? I think that's a great idea. I mean brings some of these classic races. We've seen in the prequels m the original trilogy flesh them out a little bit because I remember when we first saw the Moss Eisley Cantina Tina. There's the hammerhead racist. which is the eye or theuns of love to see those guys or the durose who are basically the grey aliens that we see in sci-fi up their blue because this takes place after Jeddah? I I mean I five years after return of the there's no reason why If breath if this starts to get heavy when it comes to Getting close to the frontlines of of Of I guess the New Republic getting involved. There's no reason why we might not see Admiral Akbar Yeah on like even if he's not like interacting with them directly like there there could be a reason for the mandatory and to sneak aboard the admiral's flagship and B basically weekly witness to him holding a meeting or something and have to go by like I'd love to see them visit other planets like you just mentioned Akbar if they they want to monitor how we saw the Koren's for example. Who are the squid face people? That'd be really cool to see them do something like that. I mean the one of the things. They're probably going to go even though he's too old they won't really show him the probably going to go to cloud city. Yeah they'll go to best at some point because why not or they'll talk about stuff that's been mentioned and lower like or like or mantle or Stuff like that man tells like it's not it's it's like a grungy Angie's space port but there's a reason it's a junkyard planet. I'm trying to. There's like a thousand star wars like NAM. But I can't think of one off the top. My Damn Edrich. Yeah well they'll they'll probably the they're saying very specifically expect a lot of people from the skywalker and they skywalker. That also means the newer films. So we'll probably see some of the people that weren't flushed out with well. Enough in force awakens shop in it. Yeah becau although during the time of learned how long this show runs. We may a C leading up to the battle of Jackou Jacuzzi takes place fifteen years after the end of return of the Jed eye which then Grand Vizier Moss. AMITA so if you're under the blue guy from the from the prequel trilogy. He basically leave surrenders the empire. If we went back to correspond that would impress the hell out of me to see correspond against the Imperial Imperial Palace. The see what happen to the Jedi temple because the temple was turned into the Imperial Palace because Emperor Paladin was a giant Dick. But the see what happened to the imperial remnant because the imperial remnant still controls parts of the galaxy in the mandal orients. Timeline like there are parts that are. We're still wild. The New Republic is considered to be the government but it doesn't have the fleets in the military strength to hold so there is still a galactic civil war going on despite the fact that the empire's would more or less defeated so it'll be interesting to see how they do this. I kinda hope. We see more of the underside underside of the stars. Like we have been seeing less at show me more bounty hunter stuff. Show me more. I WANNA see as Alex brought up. Now Huddah AH show me the huts. Give me the Black Sun with the Gino's sister you think. I think it might get a mentioned because I know Gino's is as a mid mid Rim world but if you told me the mandatory in landed on a on a world that had battle droids as security charity forces that would be bad this episode or through these episodes were very Desert and Very very short very desert forest. They didn't really do jungle. He stuff but so they could do cacique or they could do hof to really shake up the locales if they wanted to. They'd have no reason to go back to Hof but that being said would never accept to hide while he had repairs had to hide their the or there was some. You know. E- finds the old rebel base You know the The remnants of it and hides in there or something you know. What would it be cool for me speaking of rebel basis? If they had a reason to go to Dan Dan Twain was very was just a throwaway line in and New Hope they say we found the remains of a rebel base on dead win but it has been abandoned for some time and governor hearkens like well. Fuck a BLOB Alderman. You know what it makes me really cool. If the Mandolin in his ship had the visit the asteroid field. With with Keira Dune. This is what's left of all Duran and you just see the asteroid field. That would impress the hell out of me. Yes yes that's for sure. Now there's alder was the I'm trying to think of the planets I played in the public. Mo Cause some of them are the same some of them. Are you obviously gone. But I mean I guess they could do. They could go to go to galvanise fours rebel base or something. That'd be cool to see goes. I bet you it's probably like a historical site or something or go to Corolla. Yes because we've already done it solo. Let's go back. Why not show me? It would be the our fleet shipyards. It'd be a good way to some of the characters that were in that solo movie could still be there. Yup that's entirely possible and that's the most I don't know like blade runner. Ask Planet you know. It's it's wet. It's futuristic it's industrial. It's a different locale so it's not going to be more of the same. I think what they're going to want to do with the next season is bringing a lot of contrast so that's why I was suggesting. Jungle Planet Dripping wet feature dystopia Stope Lia Planet Hoffe. But like that's you know it's sorta dream stuff. But as far as the the production of the show this this season let storyline. I couldn't think of a better pace for a show like everything that was introduced was introduced. Well the the thing the the comedy works because it wasn't silly like nose dry but it just it's just circumstance. Yeah it's a little and it's subtle things to that can be funny and also poignant like how he just slowly grows to become a dad basically takes the little ball off of his his gearshift often hands it too much just a play toy magic Han line. I love the the part where he People were having fun with it with adding music that we're a baby yoga presses controls in just kind of looks at him while he's he's flying. His ship ship leans forward in touch. Is One of the buttons in the new. Does something and then Gillian Does it again and it starts all these alarms going off. The ship starts jolting well and the only one like we've all watched all of it like we're all. Yeah am I the the only one that was like I don't get emotional when it comes to usually watching. That was almost yelling at the TV. Don't hit the fucking baby. When he the stop it you can hear them crying? Stop it one of them was chasing today and then somebody else being the other do that like I was like. Oh no now. You're GONNA get it. Eight comes over and lays them out. Oh yeah sorry. When I g eleven died I had? There was genuine emotion. There I felt I. I felt that and that was you know it's amazing. Someone put this out on twitter and it's accurate. As as hell I ain't got more character development and three episodes then most of the characters did in the new trilogy of movies exactly not to mention the main character actually had an art where evolve region notice that you know ray kind of didn't really change at all like the the main characters of the new to the new skywalker trilogy really didn't evolve or change who they were at all. They had no training consistent. Yeah yeah like or or they failed like refales that being said I like fails. Bad like can't even control their emotions and it's like okay. So why should we care about anything she does whereas in the mandatory he goes. It's simple story ARC. But like he goes from being a a loner paranoid Hateful of all droids to at least trusting droid and Getting the family. He always wanted secretly other bounty hunters. The robot knows the baby and even you know he gets a even though he tried to kill him once he gets a father figure out of out of the weather's yet exactly. Carl weathers becomes the father figure he gets You know not not a waste. Yes but more of a could be a wife but more of a sister You know in in the the the shock trooper and he gets this weird sort of family and even it's built in babysitter on tattooing at he. He lose unfortunately loses his strange jonquil. Nick Nolte's character. I can't remember his name now. I think yeah and I saw people comparing comparing this to the the Japanese movie series and and Book Series Lone Wolf and Cub. Yeah basic basically. It's Samarai or he's a he's a Ronin because he's which is what he is because he's no longer has a master because he was kicked out of the guilt and and he's all alone and he's basically moving across Japan or or the universe protecting a little baby and he's he's a wounded soldier with scars the past that he has to work through. So it's like and I would and that's basically what star wars was always. It was a Samurai movie. Mr The western and this is the closest to that we've seen since who literally the original star wars new hope. I could see that. Yeah like there's something I'm very authentic about how the mandatory in his handled the source material and the themes of it. Yeah it's basically lone wolf and cub in. That's fine fine. It's got elements of the Spaghetti Western. And I hear people complaining about how the men learned doesn't do anything new. It doesn't have to. It just has to do what it's doing. Well it just has to make you care about the characters which it does it gives you stakes for most of the episodes some of the episodes. I could argue are filler entertaining filler. Like you get a story story line is being propelled for the most part but you get a lot of interesting characters. Along the Way Keira Dune Go griff Aka. in-car weather's Tyco what. Td's character and you get you you just you get a lot in eight episodes that you you didn't get with the new trilogy and that I appreciate more so than a movie a movie yes has a a bigger budget and arguably a longer run time but I feel more intimate and familiar with these characters over eight forty three minute episodes that I did over the course of like eight hours wars with the new movies. I just who if you had if you had me pick who I care more about between Ray and thin and PLO. I'm choosing the mandatory baby iota and the rest of the characters from your mandatory. We learned to care more for a character. That doesn't talk than we do about anybody in the new movies. Yeah there's really telling. Yeah there's I mean outside of being a brilliant marketing into all because the amount of baby iota Merck's it's GonNa fly off the shelves in May is GonNa blow your mind in fact Blair got a preorder for me for Christmas. I don't get this until it comes out in. May I got the official baby yoga with a little cup a soup and the and the frog that thing's gonna I can only imagine what scalpers are GonNa want for that. You just wait. I guarantee you that may the fourth That week will probably be a trailer but well that'll probably be when they drop the DVD or Blu. Ray Set 'cause I I they haven't said whether or not being on a streaming network. They're they're going to release home media but it's Disney. They always do so the whether it be a club exclusive or not but fully expect McDonalds or somebody to have happy meal. Toys may the fourth with baby. Yoda stuff and those toys. We'll be scarce actually. I'm Kinda surprised we didn't see any any real fast food tie INS for the there was the movie theater stuff but we'll do you remember back in the day. I don't know if it's like now it's the same thing but when the special special editions came out and at least when Phantom menace came out I'm not sure about the others didn't Taco Bell have the exclusive rights to the e Yes. KFC TACO. GEICO Bell did run episode one. I don't remember anything for episode to episode three was Burger King. 'cause I I remember the special editions. all being like when they had the giant Vader cups like where he had like the arms. That would move your cup and all the toys were Taco Bell and it was there was a while we're TACO GEICO. Bell is getting some of the coolest stuff maybe it was because they had to deal with Fox or something I think so but yeah like I think about this like you know anything baby. Yoga is going to sell. So there's GonNa be micro machines with baby yoga on top. There's going to be like there's think about even like pencil racers. That are going to vote on it. It's going to be on absolutely everything. Oh Oh stupid me. You know where they're going to go in the next season there were. They should go at least Degas. Like like. There's nobody there right but like Yoda's dead and this is and look at this point has not yet Gone off to you. He hasn't buggered off to island yet. So He's this is when he's training people like this is when they're they're hunting down the remnants like so I could see mark Hamill voicing Luke you know over the you know radio or something. You're hearing it like if they if they do an episode where they go and see. And you can see like Admiral Akbar. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw like a Hologram of Luke talking and like and the maybe okay with adding no idea who he was and having it be just. It's the tertiary just like nothing. I really mean anything is just like Lucas. Like mentioning. Have Luke mentioned. He's on the hunt. They're catching all the last. Ah trying to catch the rest of the imperials or have luke mentioned. I think I'M GONNA start a school fam- there you go lower and just have it on a transmission mission or something. Yeah how he's got like a like an are two projection that he that they hand over to Admiral Akbar or somebody on another another planet which would be neat. But I almost got the feeling that like baby. Yoga might be compelled through the force to like if they're trying to find others The whole point of this next season is finding his race. Well maybe he would be drawn Dagoba the residual effect of Iota being there and there is no reason season for iota not to appear at some point as a as a force ghost right like the there 'cause iota being A sort of secretive as he was wouldn't surprise me if he had had contact with this like like for all we know while the skywalker stuff has been happening in the movies. There there could be an entire like they're like the last Jedi that in the skywalker world but for all we know there is an entire planet way out in the middle of nowhere. Where in secret for Caesar's have been training for the last thirty years in and we don't know about them because for all we know like everybody not with the exception of palpitation? That would have been able to sense force users. They're all dead like Luke didn't get enough training to be able to sense so people are especially if they're like on some like I don't know about the the old there's a planet that blocks away a lot of the signals or Blah Blah Blah. There could easily be like I'm not too in on Was it a a soaker. Whatever name was but was? She wasn't wasn't she supposed has to be training like a whole bunch of neutral forces. Something like that there was her and Ezra and Ezra still alive at the medicine. Rubber Soka supposed is to be too while the it's funny you mentioned the show up in the trilogy That's what I heard you did did choose the voice at the end. She was a voice. It's which means she's dead. However that being said Dave Baloney went on twitter posted a picture of a Soka standing next to Gandalf the grey San Dan? I heard you were dead. And she's like I get that a lot so is a Soka dead. We don't really know Dave Baloney says no but Kathleen Kennedy may have other ideas for that the biggest because they wouldn't that be the perfect thing it's like the idea is the last job I could still fit with that. Continuity of like there is no more or at least there isn't current jet I order but there's a neutral order that doesn't follow the path of the Jedi and that would be probably where baby yoga would be redrawn to. Yeah if you gave me a Soka in the mandatory and I'd be so beyond pleased. There are rumors of Darth Maul appearing because is rape park just posted a picture of himself on twitter in full darth Maul makeup. He died rebels. Yeah that's what I thought too. So but then again. Hey it's dismal. They can do what they want. Well they I don't think they'll con- rebels. They had him. I don't think either he'll be in the OBI WAN series. So yeah which which is cool though I mean I think I don't know what more we can say about the these eight episodes other than like. Watch them the highly anticipated. The next and it's I don't know how much rewatch ability I'll have as far as watching it myself. I think I'll rewatch at once. It comes was on home video as we get closer to the launch of the second season. Because it's still so fresh. Mind that like this is one of the few shows where I took in every single frame mm-hmm and memorize it to heart which is not common for most TV shows. I remember everything watch. So maybe the last episode. But I'm probably going to if I run a star wars I like RPG from my friends a probably set during the mandatory and timeline before the battle of Jacoub and after the returned the jet. I it just kind of ignore the new series because now the man to learn is gold. So that's going to be my gold standard for Star Wars for the next ever. Yeah resistance I didn't I I'm not even resistance is okay. It's okay but it's not as good as rebels animation. Kind of sucks weird. I tried watching like looking at the animation for rebels and they look like a huge step down from Comores uprising in TR- transformers robots and guys like the style it's dramatically lower quality. Clearly lower budget. Like I watched. I'm one and a half seasons in the clone wars. Now I know I'm super far behind. But guess what I guess. I'm not that far behind because it's going to be a new season so as long as I catch up with that for I think. What does it spring when they're launching February? Oh Oh shit okay watch it okay. I will be watching because there is what. What was it six seasons on five and then a sixth season on Netflix or something six season will be exclusive to Disney? Plus you know I thought I thought that their sixth six season was like an eight episode arc or something they finished. Maybe maybe it was. I'm not flex I think you may be right. I'm not against yeah well mm-hmm Yeah Yeah Yeah. Five seasons or five seasons on the cartoon network season six was thirteen episodes on net flicks and that was in twenty fourteen and then I guess so season seven is what's coming. Yeah you'd be correct and that was like when I saw the even the first season of that show Visual quality wise way better better than I was ever expecting a cartoon to look especially the space stuff so you know as long as they can keep that kind of quality going if that's the quality they want to go with on any shows they produce animated wise in the network. I think the future of Star Wars won't movies. I be okay with it. Being animated as long as the quality's up there and as long as the original characters sound like they should. I'm totally fine with it Honestly if you told me Okay Guys Okay Star Wars Fans you've been waiting for the throng trilogy animated. We're going to give it not give us three years. I will wait with bated frigging breath. I'm down so yeah nobody knows what I'm talking about. When it comes all this e you should trust me the throng trilogy was the Gold Old Standard? And it's set the bar really really frigging high back in the day and there's a great audio book read by One guy but he does all the voices news and they sound really really on point actually so yeah check his grand admiral thrown is especially good but anyway from from the chips ascendancy anyway. This has been Already so I think this is about reps this episode up so so do you think that they'll bring in. Ezra in the mandatory. I think it would be a really cool cameo. I really do if they did Azra And a Soka or even the crew of the ghost at some point because I know Hera is still alive because the ghost shows up at the end of Resin Skywalker. Sure I'm totally download. The nail so Hamlin at the end of Rebels to. Yeah so how would you takes place during the fall of the empire So there's the possibility that they could all be out there looking for Azra and it would be kind of neat if they're not going to leave the show forever. Now they'll need get a new thing to move forward so so it'd be interesting if they had Ezra take on the baby Yoda they just take him off his hands. Somebody that you know can be trusted. Doesn't like the empire because he's got kind of that not a full Djeddai like a Background where he's willing to do some things that weren't so I could see him playing apart but yeah so anyways we have been a Alex. I'm Mike the Birdman Dodd. And I've been Steve megatrend Phillips you can catch US next time on Ultra Geek and and Around the time this up so it's coming out The there should be a crisis on infinite earths episode of Twig following this shortly thereafter. Anyway so until next time. Get All Dude Kiki with the yeah.

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Anna Higgs

Standing On The Shoulders

34:55 min | 6 months ago

Anna Higgs

"I remember when I was at film school being very sleet out for like a popular films. God forbid someone see the work that I make an. We might actually make some money and be able to feed ourselves goodness gracious. Yes, let's make a film about tweaking puddle. So. Whilst my Dome Own Fresher about sort of sneering house, I think being as ECLECTIC as you can't is the interesting thing because there's just as much as the curious Salamis, the race was Spielberg. The interviewer asked her. What was it like working with all these powerful men, and apparently they right in the kind of profile that she pulled the face of common. Will like this idea that there are powerful men didn't really short me. I was working with people who were doing really interesting work working with them empowered me, and so if you're seeing them as powerful men than that is going to be a barrier. Hello. You're listening to standing on the shoulders podcast about giants, not the kind that you run into in fairy tales, but the more metaphorical and inspirational kind whose symbolic shoulders you can stand on to reach greater heights whose vision helps you to see a dazzlingly clear path ahead. Across these episodes, you'll be hearing. The stories of a number of thinkers and innovators visionaries who somehow managed to see a world that other people can't tell us about the key moments that shaped their professional journeys, and they'll talk about the towering figure whose work inspired them the most hosted by me Aleks courtesy and supported by kissing. Our guest today is Anna Hey. Anna is producer at an executive working at the intersection between film and Interactive Story. Over the last twenty years, she has worn an impressive variety of hats. She's worked as a consultant and independent producer director across every realm of storytelling, commercial arthouse cinema, short films, innovative digital projects that were part of documentary series today. She has a facebook cave entertainment division, a role that has for collaborating with studios, broadcasters and publishers record labels. Elton John She's also deputy chair of Baptists, Film Committee. And talked to us about finding your way up the rickety climbing frame to success in a creative field for the first step is an unpaid internship, an expensive city something that people struggle to do without the financial support from mum and Dad. She also told us about how the work of an inspirational movie giant who produced some of the most iconic movies ever made helped her to develop reliance in film, school but i. she told me about how growing up in Birmingham spurred her drive to innovate. So I come from Birmingham. which in the UK terms is the second city, and that is a bit like being the second child, your like popular and less sexy, and all of the things I suppose that Birmingham feels in comparison. Some light London I've got pet theory. That Birmingham's never become corks. We've never had a really cool ban to make the accident call. peaky blinders is doing a bit of that now yet the Beatles with Liverpool and you had you know Oh acc? Manchester everywhere else has become called but ozzy. Osbourne's not really gonNA cut it for Birmingham one noddy holder. Very very British references there for an international podcast audience having are the cuts through okay Ozzy Cossery. So I come from a CPA. Working Class area is one of the highest approbation indexes in the UK, and so I come from a place with not all of aspiration, but what's interesting. Is that the kind of stuff? I got kind of my head quite quickly. Round is I come from a Pacers essentially screwed post in it was the workshop of the world, the heart of the industrial revolution along with places like Manchester but post the kind of. Of Margaret Thatcher in particular, the sixty seventies, and then into the eighties, it was totally stripped of its industry, and it's kind of its heart, beating a lot of ways, and so it instilled in me really early on a very big sense of the importance of understanding change, and how you adapt to the world around you, and how you stay ahead of change, or maybe how you think innovatively now place where people inventing steam engines one minute. Minute, but falling behind in the race to me is in the twentieth century in another minute is really interesting challenge. Like how did we lose that? Where did that go? So that was something that sort of came to me quite early on another thing that came to her early on was to persist, despite all of the people trying to stop her ambition and curiosity. Ns says that her school was in a very disadvantaged area and she says. Says that her teachers tried to get her to know her place, which was to set her sights, no higher than factory work or becoming a secretary, it was a really low conversion to six woman loan university. You're kind of in training to go work in an office or it. Wilkinson Sword Factory down the road, which is probably now closed, but she refused to do what she was told, which she says was both a blessing and a curse. Early on. She knew how to read before her classmates did. And she remembers being banished from the classroom to the library because she was so precocious, it felt like a punishment, but actually she enjoyed the Odyssey of reading reading that she went on. She read all kinds of things everything from Tony Morrison. And Alice Walker to Judy Blume, another moment of revelation Cam when an arts company visited or school, and they did a couple of workshops to help the kids tell the stories of their communities. They came to the school and gave us video cameras and helped us do some storytelling. Suddenly, it was kind of like Oh hang on so. We can be of telling our own story. We don't just receive history from the textbook or receive a particular view of the world in the clothes you could probably get to an experience of someone in all school was eastenders. Coronation Street is sorts of working class sipe narratives. You said that because you grew up in the area. The grew up with because he was surrounded by people from so many different cultures than that gave you the window into seeing different stories in hearing different stories and other people. People might not have. Can you talk a little bit about that? And how? That's influenced where you are now? Yes, so I grew up in a massive diverse area, so I was in a big Africa being community, Bengali, seek a not into an inverted commas English wedding, until I was about twenty, and then discovered that the most boring things in the world compared to seek quitting like where is the three day feast? What's happening and so thinking about other perspectives and thinking about the experiences of my friends? Felt normal to me, but I realize it's not normal to most people and I've tried, and it becomes less normal to you as you I think build your own communities. You go through life so I always try and keep a hold on that experience on my not thinking about what could I be curious about? What could I try and understand or have empathy for the not be doing enough work on the moment? And I think as well sense of exactly that poverty of aspiration I think the area I come from his massively depraved, and it's only getting worse, you know the use of food banks in the West Midlands massive. It's the same across the K., but it's huge and I think we're living today. In a really bullying culture of these people need to pull this up and sort. Sort themselves out, and do all of these things that they're being taught by a very very very small percentage of the population that come from huge privilege, and it was really interesting I was interviewing Malcolm. Glad well recently, which is not in my day job, but he was talking about the idea that the amount of cognitive space everybody has the amount of decision making and. And thinking you get to planning and you know the idea that Mark Zuckerberg famously has the same t shirt, so he doesn't have to waste decision making power, and he said high-flying people think they do the most decision making surgeons in tech entrepreneurs, etc, etc, they don't. They have loads more cognitive power because they have cleaner or driver or this or that and actually it's. It's people who live in or below poverty. That can't think about Oh, if I do. They said I could get my kid into school next week. I think about where their next meal comes from, and I remember being a kid in a single parent family with my mom, and I remember really vividly, and probably some of the in retrospect, but we didn't ever weekly short. But in the midst of all of this Anna fell in love with cinema. The love affair began when she was four years old when she watched e t and she thought this is magic I wanna do this for the rest of my life. She forced her dad to take her to the movies every single weekend and she watched lots of late night. TV, which introduced her to the pulpy delights of course horror. Used to watch icon movie joy late at night on Channel Four nights he. Of Experience Oh. Wow, that's a whole thing in your eyes would explode saying things like oranges, only fruit on channel, four or BBC to maybe late night, and realizing those entire kind of world of lesbian fiction and storytelling, and having that come up, and just being introduced different people's experiences through such democratic former cinema and tally. I think has just become part of my DNA I. Love The story. Story of when you decided that you wanted to go to university, and you had an interaction with a teacher that set you off on a different course than you would imagine. Can you describe that? Can you tell me what happened on the infamous? Mr Clifford yes, my head of sixth form thought I was opportunity because I at one point had challenged his a-level history notes for being a bout. Old Literally would read them off the yellowing shreds of paper from maybe his teacher training school. I don't know. And he decided didn't like me at that point and I sent off. You know being predicted grades ice, and all of my applications on the university system, and got six rejections back in one go and thought what is going on and so. As I didn't think otherwise being obviously a bit optimistic thought. I went straight to Mr. Clifford because he was the one that sort of wrote the final piece of review in the castle, and he said Oh yo allege. Predicted grades I said I'm sorry. What and he changed my mock exam grades to lower them and also written like the most insane review of my personality. Ever, and so, all of these universities at then rejected makers pizza does a social. MISFIT and I was not going to get anywhere near. The grades at the courses are asking for, and it was kind of fascinating was devastating. I was massively upset. I remember being stereotypes, but also since then it stayed with me as I. Wonder How many other kids he might have done that to. That wouldn't have gone announced because he had. It's kind of stunning. He told me he didn't have to. He could have just gone owner now. Maybe they're just really competitive issue. Whatever got away with it, but he told me what he done. He was so sure in his assessment of my character assassination of my car to maybe. That he told me so I ended up kind of enrolling of the people and talking to various universities and getting them change their mind, because my head of six woman's associate path, and a couple of them change their minds, not all of them, not a monarchy. But actually in the end, what was good is the one that had been really supportive and I talked to do real convincing. John was the one go to America for a year, not just six months, so in the long run. Kind of all worked out. Anna's to nasty and hard work. You will see are the driving forces in her career, a little later on. She told us about a person who's been a constant source of inspiration throughout her career, somebody who served as a kind of north star, lighting her path, but first we spoke about how her career in film began. And I got her start with the Community Arts company that came to her class, and she continued to work with them all through her, a levels and university as well as like a restaurant job and a pop job and working waterstones at Simon part time jobs. So, I kind of started to work with them on lots of stuff and they were working were called Jubilee, arts, and they were working at their. Ended up becoming light, the forefront vegetate. They were making these interactive CD ROMs and doing stuff that was peer based education, so they did this amazing sexual hell CD Rom. But. You'd have to go to a museum to see all of these things now because they're so so old like twenty five years old some of them. and. They had to be filmed bits, so there'd be photography involved by go radio interested in doing the little filmed base because you told the story and you got to come to live with the young people who were explaining the problem. Film might always loved my real kind of entree. To The Passion of film and kind of visual storytelling in kind of film and TV I saw eighty when I was four so this idea of them when that company came with film cameras and going, we'll hang on. You don't have to be Steven Spielberg to do this sort of storytelling of blew my mind, but after university and started to worry about money, so she got what she calls a paid MBA with the consulting company accenture because I figured if I want to work in the creative industries. I haven't got a trust fund or parent with a house in Notting Hill, so I need. Need to be able to run the business side as well as the creative. That was a really conscious decision, but five years on the job was also take. She needed to tell stories again, so she worked with the Arts Council on a project, in which she forged creative partnerships with people in the most underprivileged parts of England and Wales and then off. That started to solve slow. Go Away. A lot of people had said. If you want to get into film, you have to go to the national film and Television School is basically the Oxbridge of the media world and it was true the time very much the kind of old boys. Boys Network and so I need to get as much experience as possible so as working away on all sorts of small digital storytelling projects on all sorts of community film projects I went and worked for free as a on a big American feature film with the ka-shing design, a friend of mine, and all sorts of like just connecting every Dr I could find till I got enough experience and apply DFDS insertive sold them on the fact that I didn't come from source of a film dynasty of that world was fine, and actually it was more interesting that way, etc, etc kind of negotiated my way in what seems to be a thread. Thread throughout this is that you have experienced barriers to entry right whether it's a financial buried entry whether it's background in terms of where you came from buried entry, and at every turn you have said no, no, no, that's not a barrier. In fact, I'm going to use that to my advantage. And where do you think that came from that resourcefulness to regard something that's that would stop other people in their tracks, and say well I guess I'm just going to go off and do something else. Where did that come from? I think voice being a grafter I think. Get quite a lot from my non my ninety ally soon my dad's. And she had no education was cleaner and a Keira and worked at a charity shop had free children like all sorts of things, and we would never stop moving, and she's from the black country. She's from. Lake proper peaky blinders land, which was shoes, amazing influence in lots of ways but I think I don't know been interested in lot of staff of always being quite eclectic. Sometimes, my struggles being like focusing down on like I want to be a particle physicist like I I admire the specificity that some people get to have by being a specialist will oh, now someone's written a book about how good is to be a generalist feeding a bit better about myself. But I've always thought well. I've got to try. And I think particularly because I had to earn my way through stuff I was a waitress in thirteen to work I've always managed to. Once I've got into. Something managed. Approve Valuable. I am by working really hard. And there's a waitress saw got promoted quickly and in other things I've had the same experience, so I think I kind of prove things with results and feel like I can also. Often think my way around a particular challenge idea of mentoring now on, I always say to people that. Only makes sense backwards, not something I've invented because mine's manic. If you look at it forwards, but it does I think you can always find the threat of what's interested someone if you look that way kind of serve experience journey, Anna went on a pretty adventurous journey right after film school. She founded her own production company court films, and it was a tough hustle. You had to choose between surviving and growing, unless you had some unbeatable advantage like maybe a famous parent who wrote bestsellers and gave you the free Ip. And didn't her. Next stop was at foam four where she spent six years developing a host of really exciting digital projects, one of these was an immersive website that went along with the film about Nick Cave's creative process. The website was called the Museum of Important Shit. It was named after a phrase that Nick Cave uses in the film. And then she became the creative director of now notice short-form digital video channel. Tell me a little bit about this. Tell me about that job. Because that seemed to be quite formative in terms of establishing you as somebody who worked with community, but also really set the flagpole for digital culture here. Yes, are now was phenomenal. It was such a wonderful experience it came out of. Leaving film for which is hugely prestigious and wonderful place to work and I said in my interview Jefferson Hack who was one of the founders of now notice with Lvmh, asked me what I thought of the work on the channel, and I said half of it. Some of the best short form video storytelling overseeing full. Stop the other half. I have no idea what I'm watching. And I think what we need to do is like clarify what announce film as and think about how you do that. Anna says she had a bit of a maverick gay. It was three jobs rolled into one one part involved commissioning and curate three hundred and sixty five films a year another was about building commercial partnerships, and on top of that she spearheaded a massive structural organization for which. which her paid MBA came in handy, but her most memorable achievement was setting an ambitious gender parody target for the Channel One day. She told the team that from now on now nece would screen fifty fifty pitches for male and female directors on even the quite kind of young progressive teams in. We can't do that. We can't do that overnight city here. We come. We're going to have to. To! That's one time always kind of quite specific and and dictatorial, and we did it, and all of the stats on the of improved, because we were telling more diverse stories, being more inclusive, and it was really interesting. That would've given really really fair playing field while ended up. Happening is a lot of the women directors. We were working with started win. More of the Bundy content pitches they. They were actually accessing more and more and more of the higher budgets, because they were coming in with the maybe the bulge ideas or the slight. You left field, ideas or something. Did you imagine that you would have had this position? This role in promoting women's filmmaking or was this something that just happened when you realize that there was a there was an imbalance. I don't know if I. I ever imagine that in terms of like this is one of my goals with my career, but I've always wanted to find a way to get broader stories told remember doing talk for now notice a big festival and kind of paraphrasing the Spiderman thing and saying with great reach comes great responsibility, and I believe that massively so yes, we need to make great work, but we need to make. Make with those things in mind so women filmmakers was one thing, but also I was reading inspired by this amazing research piece that Melanie Hoy's at the bare fighted about black stardom, and they did this massive research piece across the last few decades of black, making the UK and found that there was only one film in the entire time span that featured leading black characters. who weren't in some? Some of gangster story and that one film was Debbie. Tucker Green's film Second Coming, which is extraordinary to think that you got won't even if you take the percentage of kind of black and minority, ethnic population UK that that is the single example of some sort of positive piece of storytelling is, is mind boggling so inspired by that piece of research? We commissioned three films about the future of. Of Black stardom and asked three black filmmakers to tell us what their vision for the future is. One of those was by an amazing Omega, cogen nuclear, who is well on our way to stardom anyway, but this I think definitely gave her a bump was really really interesting in terms of hunters having carte blanche to do what she wanted. It wasn't with a particular gender particular thing so. Seeing herself free and seeing the sort of storytelling that she came to with that was so invigorating, and it's brilliant to see all of those filmmakers going on St next at Anna's current job as the head of entertainment facebook, she helps broadcasters and public figures adapt their messages to the platform. She works with them to present their work in a way that facilitates discovery so that they can go after larger and less obvious audiences. She's also trying to democratize storytelling even further by supporting popular media created by everybody so I think what I'm most interested in. Is that democratization that everyone is creative. Everyone wants to engage with storytelling that they love. It's those. Those campfires right the campfires that we gather around change, but the desire for great storytelling in to be connected as human beings around great storytelling dozen when we met, she had just come from vid con, the biggest campfire in the digital communications, world and one that brings together brands, fans and loads of creators so amazing individuals who are sharing their passions and building community around the stuff that they do. We also work with music artists, public figures, which means famous people. From Queen to David Beckham and we also with producers and broadcasters, so it's all about how we can have amazing video storytelling on the platforms, but also how we help, those people are doing that storytelling finding, connect and deepen their engagement with audiences, and a lot of that has to do with the fact that it is itself a unique storytelling medium. It's not something that you could just strip the audio from and slap into a podcast or a strip video from and slap into Youtube Channel. It actually does need to be a storytelling medium of its own right. Can you talk a little bit about that? Yeah, very differently so today I was interviewing the brilliant pair mark and rocks who are? Are Baby. and they're really good example of that, so it's not about exactly like you say just stripping something can putting out in its component parts onto an audio platform more video platform. Really particularly I think facebook instagram is about authenticity about getting to know the real person because it's based on your real identity. Right so lot baby from the very first time that they found out they were expecting their first child of charted their journey, and the amazing adventures of being a family, and they do that with real passion real hard. They check if they think it's funny. That must be funny to somebody else, and they really really think about how they get that stuff out on the platforms. And then told me about the one big person who's inspired her throughout her career, someone who played a pivotal role in the past that she decided to take the person that you've nominated I had wondered if perhaps Mr Clifford was going to be the person you nominate. Standing on the shoulders of Mr Closer. I mean he was quite an old man so I don't know if he's upright anymore, but yes, he no I wouldn't like to stand on Mr Clifford. Kathleen Kennedy is a powerhouse exact in Hollywood. She heads up Lucasfilm's and Anna's childhood favorite movie e t happens to be the very first film that she ever produced for them. What do you think it is about what she's done as a female producer? In Hollywood that really speaks to you. I think there's a couple of things, I think if you look at her body of work, and you go on to her IMDB page. She has one hundred eleven credits as a producer of those are exact some of those. She won't have been right across, but it's the Marshburn bananas set films. If you're a kid that was born in the seventies and kind of grew up symmetrically through the eighties like me, she made back to the future. She made et. She made Jurassic Park. She made the goonies sheep like Gremlins. You keep going, and it's like how she cofounded ambulance, Steven Spielberg and her now husband Frank Marshall so as a producer. Like just looking at that as the most envy inducing so films, you could ever wish to be part of they by virtue. Partly of their time, we had less stuff out there, but they are pop cultural milestones. They are defining era of kind of cinema and film, and I think particularly for me. A lot of popular film gets quite sneered. I remember when I was foam school being very snap liking popular films as As I, guess God Forbid Swansea. The work time make, and we might actually make some money and be able to feed ourselves goodness gracious. Yes, let's make a film about a twig in Puddle so whilst I might have done my own show about sort of sneering Becca art house I think being as Eclectic as you these the interesting thing, because just as much basically curious to army is Spielberg. Anna, says that if you. You look at Kathleen Kennedy's lengthy IMDB page. It includes both popular and Art House Cinema. She's one of the producers of persepolis like this mud, Iranian graphic novel movie, and she was on the diving Bell, and the butterfly, and she does the English language versions of the Shia deeply stuff, so you can see so of eclecticism and a curious that which already like, but it's the fact that she was a female producer at. At that time I've met one. Maybe two other female producers who were part of that stable, and that's it. They were like three female producers in an ocean of male producers at the time, and I'm wondering to what degree for her. The gender issue was probably the barrier, whereas for you found other barriers that you worked around. How do you see how she worked with this gender barrier? Something? That's inspirational for you. I think the gender issue. Something I've definitely faces well. I think I read it really interesting interview with her kind of profile of her in Vanity Fair and they asked her how she felt she was the assistant to John Milius. I think it was first, and then met Steven Spielberg and became his assistant for two movies, and then produced et, and the into your asked her. What was it like working with all these powerful men, and apparently they right in the kind of profile that she pulled the face at that comment, she will like this idea that there were powerful men. Didn't really strike me I was working with people who were doing really interesting work, and working with them empowered me, and so if you're seeing them as powerful men than that is going to be a barrier and I think that's interesting thing, there's a part of we con- fi individually all sorts of systemic prejudice and kind of instilled achieved people, but I think you can intimidate your cell of something, and so I think the idea of just wanting to be part of great work, and being really interested in what you're doing. Doing it also helped massively. If you're a producer and new Ford, you're very very good relationship with a brilliant director, 'cause directors all your currency in the world when your producer but I think that sense of her having that curiosity, and that passion for story, and that passion for the form of storytelling is movies shine through in everything that she sought decided to do whether it Persepolis, or whether it's Indiana Jones the kind of other layer of I think she does I'm really interested in is that she also works is quite. For the industry, the should not just making her staff and making loads of money doing it. She's was president of the Producers Guild of America. She also sits on the National Student Film Council in the State, so there's also stop. She's doing this at the like. Lower levels next generation of talent of industry and I'm sure she's faced loads of issues. I think probably because she's married to her producing partner. Frank Marshall I. Bet there's quite a lot of room. She's been in where in earlier days maybe been spoken to, and she hasn't been how she's dealt without I'd be intrigued. No, but you can see by the pass and the trajectory that she's taken that she hasn't let that become a barrier either Anna says that another thing that she admires about Kathleen is that as the head of Lucasfilm's. She's really worked hard to provide opportunities to a diverse and inclusive crop of trainees. Stall was one of the first big UK franchises to have interns said. Can you imagine that being the star of your career? Your First Credit is star wars movie. You'll probably going to be okay as an assistant props master after that, so sorts of things of knowing you still have a role to play in your industry. How common is that I've met other people who are in the industry for whom that is incredibly important, but is that something that is incredibly rare to make sure that the people who are coming up next are adequately supported. I imagine that Hollywood filmmaking general is a very doggy dog. Industry I think it's becoming more common, which is good. There were empirical arguments for the. The commercial rewards to be gained by having more inclusive and diverse workplace like full stop this huge that Mckinsey report which I throw anyone. He says it's too much like hard work to do that kind of thing. I'm like read the Mckinsey Report says you'll make more money. You're not going to do it for like Marley. Good reasons just doing best inequality bugger and feels strongly about this that people who've gone on to become successful must not lose sight of their responsibility that they should not let the door slams shut behind them i. do know producers though that sit on panels at festivals and talk about the importance of the next generation, but refused to be part of any mentoring scheme. You forgot make decisions but I think if we want the world I've benefited from being of this world and not go into this world by having people help me in an open doors as well as my own hard work, and I think if we WANNA. Stop complaining about the Stream is killing cinema. and think about what healthy future industry looks like in the creative industries in general, we all have to be a part of that, and so if you're not going to be a part of it, I think probably to take a little bit of a look at yourself. There's an amazing new foam coming out called rocks by Sarah Catherine made about a community of young women in London and she decided the she couldn't make. Make it about these people's. You have to make with them because I. She put herself. She's a privileged middle class. White women who lives in London and doesn't connect in that universe and the writers amazing amazing have writers one of them to easier cocoa. WHO said this amazing thing about? Should you know we go into? We're sitting here at London Film Festival doing these panel with you because Sarah Trojan horse that Shit. Shit. She just Trojan horses in, and that's what I now hold my entries to reasons, statement is like. How can I treasure host the shit? How can I try to in horses yet? which is quite hard to say, but I think that is what we've got to do that particularly when you're aware of like the number of barriers, the I nearly fell out to say on very determined. There was a point at. At which I was holding the offer from the national from television school, but knowing for to go on an offer from the civil service to go, and be the head of information for the Highways Agency in leads, and it was like forty five grand time I was twenty five, and it was like final salary pension. All sorts of amazing stuff and I nearly like it was a real heart and head moment because. I didn't have any money and I couldn't quite for the film school in those all sorts of things were going. Stand standing that way and I couldn't have been information officer at the National Highways Agency. What how was what was I? Even thinking? But there is a thirst security. There's a reason that I'm not an active in Jewish books I couldn't afford it and I'm happy to admit that like it was not a sustainable business. Maybe there was basically the I was doing wrong, but also there's something broken in the system been a recent survey that the average UK producers making seven to eight grand a year. which if you're in? In London you can't be doing that becomes a sort of self perpetuating trap as much as I'd love Kathleen Kennedy. I M D bay list of titles to my name. I think more I get to do particularly the move to now nece now. FACEBOOK is I. Get to do stuff, such scale and such a level of impact that I'm not just helping not maybe or maybe helping one hundred thousand, and that's not coming from an arrogant place, but that's because that's what gets me up in the morning, and the more the author do stuff the more that we're turning. The dog's quicker each time mazing. Thank you very much pleasure. For more information on Anna Goto Anna. Higgs DOT COM and for more on Kathleen go to Lucasfilm, dot, com, or just check out her incredible filmography. Odd I M D be. For show notes and links to the stories that we mentioned in this episode, even go to standing on the shoulders dot net. Standing on the shoulders is a story things production. This episode was written and produced by Shruti Robin. Our audio engineer and sound design was like Kenya scarlet. Social Media by Cake Norton Artwork by daring. Garrett and Eden Bracken Very are executive. Producers Are Hugh Gary and Caroline leary supported by Pearson and hosted by me Aleks. 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Geeks Pub - Lego Winery

"You're listening to another great podcast in the my Mac podcasting network? and. Welcome to another Geeks pub Tim Robertson on David Cone. and. David is all up in arms here. That You know what? Go ahead you you do the lead into this because you're the one that's upset about this. What about the leg Sol's holiday? Special Twenty twenty? Yeah My my question is why? Why. Would you revisit such a toxic time in the star? Wars, Canon by trying to Redo it. We were eight years old when the first one came out. Now. I don't have enough that she has I've only ever seen clips of it because it was so awful that I was know as if you're gonNA, watch sit down and watch the whole thing. Well I mean you saw clips of it when you're an adult, it wasn't designed for you. At that time. When you mean, he wants Antezana for me. I was eight. You didn't see clips of it when you're eight. Glimpse but. That's the problem isn't it just just hold on a second? Guys I think David has to shut the doors. And be quiet guess anyways because I could hear the kids in the background that was hit furious screaming at them. Why Yup. I. Wasn't I screaming. Look. You just close the door. It was it was mom as well as As. Well, as we go the very spicy oven I'm painting a wall in my daughter's room, and she's very very excited about it and I finished the first coach just before I send the show. Side that checking out that's why. Nice put at work Oh he's so I hate. I hate decorating Saimaa much and throughout well. House? So there is no room. There's no room to move any of her stuff outside also be pushed to one side and even the rooms a tiny and. It's just horrible. Just horrible. Because it's my daughter's, it's his purple pain isn't it? Of course? It is which is brilliant because one drop of it anywhere and ain't never coming off. So yeah. Yeah. I got A. I got to do some stuff when we're done recording here I got to go to Let's go lows. It's so Nice Typo. Yeah. I gotta go buy a new cordless screwdriver. I had one. And I pretty much ruined it. Yesterday I tried to put too much torque on it. It's only a little four volt thing and the moment i. Try to get a hard bolt off with it. I think it stripped Aguirre's because it the motor so runs, but nothing turns so yep. Within kind of right in the Middle Right It's you push this one little switch on top and you can turn it. So it's like a gun rights I never hold it like a screwdriver you know always with the handle and. and I, love it I. It's what I've used to build on my arcade cabinets and if it's electric thing, I, use it all the time and I have one logged in a next week when all the finish comes for the ringlets has been decorated the replacement finish off to disassemble the old stuff thrown out and build the new stuff because there's not enough room to do both a ones. Nope, we add she in fact, my My Wife said that she wanted the same wardrobe the Ikea Wardrobe the my son has in his room. And he's very, very tall guys quite heights as sailing and I said a sanguine sell you a built that in his room when there was no furniture there on I barely had enough room I said this absolutely no way I can build it in Charlotte without. Even if the finish was because it's simone lowering that's how bad is I kissed off and he space you know new. Yeah. And if you don't have the room to build it and then move it into a place in your doubly shrewd exactly. So. Yeah. I gotta go get one of those today because I've got so many like a little Sary's that go with it and stuff. I love it. It's a great little tool and I was kind of disappointed when my diaper I've had it for like six years so I can't really complain. Could but. But I'm going to go out there and I'm going to see if they have any different ones he want with the lie on it because that light on it. Oh. Yeah. Will you own the bright lights on the? A one with the laser. That'd be cool. Early really need a leader one. But just be cool. Yeah. So. That's what I'm doing later probably two three hours go out there I'll wait for one of the kids to wake up because they're going to want to go with me. You know they don't get to go out of the House a whole lot. So when you go to place a lows or Something, like that, you know they WANNA come. We which is fine. Yeah. It was my wife's birthday fail. I I. So we actually went out for lunch for the first time in five months. And it was weight because we went to the central match speak city. That because most of the working places is still closed. It was like Sunday. It was really really quite. Undone. Were the. I just watched a thing on Youtube I. Think. I actually sent you a link about the hidden underground of Manchester. Did I. Send you that no, you didn't. I thought I sent it to you on facebook. Maimed not check facebook this morning. Some I needed. No, it was this was like a week and a half ago. And I got into as we are want to do I fell onto a youtube pit. What I call it when I find a topic and I just kinda start deep diving and You can do that Wikipedia as well as he stopped from one thing and then you jumped to another to another it's another and before you know you've gone from the films of Marilyn Monroe. To. The construction of hydrogen bomb. Yeah. Yeah and you're you're like how the hell did I get here? But mine was these urban explorers and they go to cities and they go to places that either or either. You know old that no one uses anymore like the underground of London and Manchester Yeah or unused subways in New York and it's it's Kinda. Cool. The camera works usually pretty shitty. You know the the the one in Manchester the guy kept commenting on how bad the smell was. I'm like, yeah, you're underground in the area Victorian Service Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, what you? What did you? What did you think sue thanks down here And basically, and we have an awful lot that here because the industrial revolution just meant we built cities on top of all towns in the Victorian times and while the Previ- Tori Times. Sizes, loss dishes stuff. down. there. And I somebody tourist attractions will. Well some of it. Though most of the what he was showing was World War Two era yep. You know they built underground for bombing that. Took, you know save themselves from being bombed. I should say, yeah, Yeah it was interesting. The high kind of liked it. and. I'll have also check the guy back in my facebook fading check check for the link. Maybe. I. Did it. I don't know I. There's a good chance that I did it. A lot of false memories. Win The lotto and bought a whole bunch of stuff and then realize I can't pay for anything. So. anyways back to the Star Wars. So. When that came out in nineteen seventy eight I actually watched it on television I was eight years old and I loved it and I loved it because the story was stupid but I, got to see. My Star were friends and you gotta remember this was pre VHS. No Gas Yarze. No, you know there was no hbo You saw Star Wars in the movie theater, and then after that, you could get some action figures in a calendar and maybe a comic book and stuff like that. But there was no star wars. There was no way to get my fix. So this came at a perfect time that it had been a year since I've seen it lil over here and there they are now I even then I remember looking at like the the little children cookies that what the hell are. Those things 'cause they're clearly now rookies and it was really bad was. An interpretation they walk maybe. Yeah kind of I mean but they were baby. Kids there were Jewish thorough rookies there were you know Yep but it had all most of the actors from what I remember. Made an appearance and I just thought that was awesome. and then of course. I've never watched it again. But I was eight when I watched it and I thought it was great. The difference. Now, of course is this is going to be a Lego, one. So it's not Canon anything. And Lego Star. Wars has had has had a very rich long history of collaboration creatively they've made. Lego Star Wars. TV shows for our in many movies and stuff for a long time not to mention all the lego video games which be honest. The Lego Star Wars Video Games have been excellent all of them they. Complete Saga coming out here in November I, think that I love. You I love the facts I I clearly remember playing through. the third like stalls on the of the Creek. No, no the Fed prequel one which was Well, that was the second one. SAID PRICKLY was. The first one they came out with was The. Night Different Star Wars Gamed. At first they had the original trilogy. and. Then they had the prequels. Yeah, and then they combine those two into one complete. Came out with the clone wars. So I remember playing through the Prequel one and I she finished it before the final movie came out. So I need the plot of the fun movie. which I thought was interesting. Actually you could argue having seen the fond of. Products the fundamental, the LEGO vision slightly better they go. And So yeah. I I love the like games and I've liked the fact that they run. They've always been the very light hearted. And You know I I don't like that they started talking and the lego video games I don't mean just star wars. I. Mean in total I think it kind of I. Liked that you'd hear Brunson who sounds like that but there was no talking I've never. I've never played one where they spike inside I'm explore the newest. Ya It's not as good. even if they get the the right actors and stuff I don't know it doesn't lend itself well to actual dialogue I. Understand why they did it they wanNA. Or whatever but there is a An innocence. Yeah. If you will to in a playfulness and in. Leaving it up somewhat to interpretation. When there's no dialogue and on I the thing that's always what with us movies like a saw was games is that. The Puzzles solved by you have two people you have to characters. Even if you plan your angioplasty, carrots switch to them and I've always thought that fits the. The Star will storytelling. Shawna. Very well because you know the interplay between different the different characters as they go through the movies is part of what makes them fun than interesting is those those movies are far less interesting when there's just one character going off to something it's always better when. When Scotland together. I think Amanda Laurean would disagree with you but well, maybe nothing. Becomes. In the mandatory marshals much more fun when he's got the kid with him I mean it's it's. Actually, under a actually underscores that quite and most of the the better I respect my objection. Yes. And also, most of the better episodes in the man Lawrence is when he got the planet and meets up with somebody else. True. Yeah. So Back to the Star Wars special yeah I don't even know what you spot Maria Sean avoid talking about. So. Much. It. I don't mind that they're coming out with a new one. You. Know, Disney owns this property they're going to do stuff with it. We know that we almost like Kathleen Kennedy is out at this point by the way Oh. Yeah it doesn't. Seen Them. Yeah she's starting her new production company where she's focusing pretty much exclusively on on female creators. And it's kind of up in the air who's going to be the air replacement if you will to Her Time Lucas there's some rumors going around, but nothing is set in stone yet but it does look like she has pretty much made her exit. She's not doing a whole lot of day to day at Lucasfilm from what I've been reading. and I think that's probably a good thing. I think the sligo special is probably something. Left before she left. Yeah. Kostanic Lee she's still there but it's fraud attempts purposes. She's gone some mine my question. This is why as as I said the beginning, why would you do it? You're taking something that a lot of stalls fans X.. Generally set to be pretty terrible. They even I think you know you said yourself the the story wasn't great that the Promo was had with the original saul specialist. Why did they do it? Right because. Say No No. But note taker step back from it. What was in George? Lucas is mind when he did that and the reason you know storm was mommy ready at the biggest movie in the world it didn't need more promotion. Yeah. I'll tell you why they did it because of George Lucas is. He's this thing we saw in the later movies we saw again in the prequel things. He's got these things this idea that he knows how to do kid stuff and we know he's terrible at it yet we can cite the works we can cite jar jar binks we can cite e the youngest Anikin skywalker in the phantom menace year he thinks he's got it down stuff and he just doesn't also as well. I. Think the holiday special shows right from the start that. You know he has some good ideas. He has some bad ideas. He can't tell the difference between them. Yeah, the the special was. The holiday specials was basically such iron because it was terrible it was badly written yet. It had terrible ideas and characters in it, and it was unnecessary those the full things against it and well because you're only looking at it from a perspective of the Star Wars I don't think that's why it was made. George Lucas when he sold the rights to the movie for Star Wars to Fox kept merchandising for himself. That's was part of his brilliance. Why Lucas Fame Lucasfilm. became what it was. It wasn't because of the popularity of the movies it was because of the merchandising and he made a crap ton of money almost immediately from star. Wars and the holiday special was away to get kids excited. Keep them excited about star wars before the next movie comes out in eighty one and. Some more toys so more poster. So more cassette tapes, the time records, Carolina's get but again, I came out I would come back to you say walls, it necessary the toy, the toy thing was already huge walls. GotTa. Remember there was nothing like this before David there was no. Toy Line that that rivaled what are wars action figures brought in they didn't know because it. It's easy to look back with twenty twenty hindsight. They didn't know whether this is going to continue to the next year in the next year and the next year can't will kids keep buying this stuff? Before the next movie because remember seventy, seven to eighty one is a long time to way, right? So they needed something in there. I think in their mind to kind of reinforce keep star wars fresh in people's mind because think back to when we were kids, there was always the the big. Thing at at each holiday right one year it's it's an Atari. Here, it's an Millennium Falcon the year after that it's whatever there was always a big thing every Christmas I don't think that's true anymore but back then through the mid seventies through probably nineteen ninety, every holiday season had a thing I mean, what was the one cabbage patch kids that was one year thing. So it's always or verbis remember the Furby. Were getting or they were to get I. Remember that. So I think that this was simply designed to keep money coming in to Lucasfilm. to show the viability and long term success, a star wars could have because it's easy to say while they knew this all they didn't this is a year and a half after the movie. They wanted to make sure that this was fresh in cool and kizer going to stick with it. Because well, kids are anything that they're fickle. Yeah. I I mean I I. AM aware that. That George Lucas despite the fact that he apparently was very insistent it had to be on the Wookey Life Day thing on these e refused to let the move away from that I am aware that George Lucas said several times since then that that you know the TV got did it we just gave them the characters we went terribly involved which I find hard to believe, but they go to yeah you know and I can see I see the idea of you know I I am aware we don't many countries around the world do not have the. Holiday special type thing. The big. Unusual special. We have most programs here in the UK, for instance, will do a Christmas episode and sometimes we have Christmas specials dot to who is famous Nick Christmas specials, things but back in the seventies and eighties the soul more variety for Christmas while than this. Same I know. I. Know This adds some variety bits in as well which is Terrible terrible thing but now I can understand them wanting to do. something. To sell to market the toys and on all of that I you know. I I guess everyone will it was a? It was a shoe in and it was good. It would be good and it just wasn't I apparently most of us. The cost of also said, they've never stopped. So I guess they will know. It's IT'S I. I'm not arguing that it was. A good program. No No. Even then I knew it wasn't a good a good program but Mike Mike Shipyard for that kind of content something star wars, and. When they I remember when they started promoting a star wars holiday special. Oh, my God I was so excited. I was so excited eight years old and my favorite thing is coming and it's going to be on TV and. Yeah it was bad. Okay but you know. The the gluttony that they have nowadays now I I definitely appreciate it trust me as as a star, Trek. Fan. My four years I'm well aware of the fact that you send in the UK where we don't really have syndication either you couldn't get access the material is. Anyone as easy can nowadays I? I just started watching the anime series again because it was Netflix for star, trek and most of those episodes are not seen until Laura. Because they were. Hardly ever shown kids, TV and the offense here. So. Okay and you know in in some respects, kind of bagging on the the original specialist kind of easy mate because universally. Accepted to be not very good. But my question is why do this again now and and? You know look at most of the Arthur kids. Almost, the arguments we've just made that be, but there is. The arguments we just don't hold up nowadays, right Yeah. There you don't need. A star wars if anything needs these less promotion at this point, not more because it. Walking very, very fine line of crappy of saturation with crappy products. This point at Disney, right? That's that's point. One point two. They don't need to promote the toys. Yeah. I. Think the toy lines that are almost self sustaining point yeah. You Know Star Wars Toys if you're install wolves as lows and those toys out there are collectors there in that sort of thing, you don't need to give a sickly star wars character toys particularly a shot in the arm. The third one is you're associating it with what is generally sets be one of the slowest was products of I'm an only by the older generation the younger generation doesn't know this thing at all. They can see when they see the promotions for this is hey, it's the legal star wars is you know? I Think, you'll doing modern kids real disservice they all have phones, they all have the Internet. They all know the history of these things and if they. CAN IT UP I? Think I think. Into Star Wars now, coal is big time minute star wars. In fact, he finished just recently the entire clone war series right and now he at which is already seen by the way, and now he's into rebels which he's already seen by the way. He doesn't know anything about the the holiday. Special. He doesn't think about it the old one. And he would hate it just as much as we do now, but he's also almost a teenager. So it's not really his demographic but that being said, he's actually looking forward to the cycle thing and remember there's something else that I just mentioned a few minutes ago. That's happening. Around the same time as this holiday special lego show as a brand new. What lego video game. So you can't coincidence don't. Maybe, I, I think it's it's cross promotion. Yeah. Maybe I still I still think. You're taking a huge risk by himself with associated yourself with something. So holy received because if this excellent people go. Again it's it's not going to be excellent. It's it's probably going to be quirky and funny and I don't. I. Get one of the even gone to the palm of my argument against this now, which is the the purported plot which takes right. And then transports are through time somehow to meet with classic star. Wars characters including a young Luke skywalker Rodney all Luke Skywalker it just. It just sounds like. The more of the of the stuff we saw particularly in las movies, which is, let's throw everything in together. Let's come up with some good ideas. Trident. This sounds exactly like what they do with the Lego Star Wars TV stuff that they've done because they had darth vader and in darth. Maul at the same time, they didn't respect any kind of timeline. It was just goofy fun and I I don't see any problem with that it. It's one thing that posts. It was cannon it's not cannon it's a Lego show that's fine I. don't see any issue at this. In fact, I kind of expected stuff like this. You gotTa have other than the real serious man delorean arises skywalker. Yes. I have to have some of the fun stuff if you're going to. Really. Profit from this thing that you spent a lot of money on in Oh by the way, you have this entire streaming service that you want people to subscribe to. You gotTa keep cranking out some good content or at least content. Yes. I put the quite good content I just well. What happens if it comes out you watch and you're like, wow, that was not really pleased. But a my expectations are low. This comes across everything on read and heard about this comes across horrible cashing Shalva Leware and you know I've got to be honest bearing on the low quality we've had from some of the stalls some of the stumbles preseason fees I'm a bit tidal equality shovel where there's a few not so good stuff in there but there's an awful lot of rubbish and tied the rubbish against. That's what it comes down to. Know. The. The rubbish Kanda really hurts yeah. They won't. We've got at the moment with Star Wars is that we've? We've had we had something that was a classic. Yeah it was A. While, sixty eight, five bed. It was the call from bullet. It was the you know the the Batmobile from sixty series show. It was something that was incredibly of its time. It was incredibly popular as incredibly you know. Really find something good is going yeah, and and that lasted for long time, and then there was a long gap. Yeah, and then they tried to do a reboot and the reboot was terrible. Yeah You know it was like a it was a to stick with the car analogy it was. It was like you know Plastic Nineteen S. The it had the same name, but it was nothing like the original. Yeah. It didn't even try try this was going to be originally it wasn't. Yeah and then we've had the the the Abrahams said movies. Yeah. Which would conduct lot when they you know when they they redo the the modern version inspired by the original firebird or thunderbird or whatever call which particularly talking about you know the so I mean, you know what? They did with with Volkswagen did with the Basal where they kind of reimagined it in style or the the current Ford Mustang or something like that. Yeah and you know what? You can see elements or what really excited you about it. But she when you get too close to it and that she use it, you realize is a little bit the Pale limitation and after one that really annoys you yeah, and now what we get in Now what we're getting is people gone really wish they'd just you know they could understand the essence of the original and bring it back in. You can find bits of that. You know it's like you open up the you're up the the hood of a new car and you look underneath and that really reminds me of the original axel almost as good as the original but with modern parts in Muslim and and things like that. I'm stretching this mets full to absolute breaking. You know but But what would you and what we're getting in the moment is just not enough of is a very little of is good as the original and is just tiring really read. Sorry. Well let's move onto something here. So You. Know I've been into arcade games for a long time. Really. Playing them, of course, and then by well trading a Nice Bluetooth Speaker for my original Neo Geo, cabinet and In that was kind of when I thought. You know what I could. I can actually have actual arcade machines, and of course, I got Super Pac man, which is now a sixty-one board and. and I've tweaked and. Changed them quite a bit. The Neo. Geo is no longer neo Geo I still play Neo Geo Games on there. It's you know thousand fifteen hundred games. Yeah. So. There's something else that I've always liked. But is a lot more harder to do and that's pinball. Well, pinball takes a lot of space I. I I never even considered buying a pinball machine because they're just so big yet but probably six seven years ago, Chad Perry in another friend named Erin went to an arcade slash pinball show in Kalamazoo where. They had a few arcade machine set up. They had a lot more pinball They had a lot of parts and stuff like that. I didn't end up buying anything that there was literally nothing there that. I couldn't got you know ordinarily have because I was already starting to build are caves at that point. Yeah. Including the mini ones but I did see something that really kind of stuck with me and that someone had built a virtual arcade machine. and. I. Always Thought Now pinball such a physics game in at you know you gotTa, have the actual ball and the flippers and You can you really do that virtually? Will I played it and it was amazing yeah I remember thinking at the time the screen was a little bit better. was. PINBALL table. It was this one was the size of an actual pinball machine in two monitors. The first monitor was playfield down the second monitor was you know the backdrop Yep and it was keeping score and you could change games and both the playfield and the the marquee would change it was it was pretty awesome. Yeah except. The screen that they used for the playfield. I was more like seven twenty p. Rather than ten eighty and just I is a little bit flat to me other than that. The physics work everything worked it was one hundred percent convincing. and then I. So that, Kinda, stuck with me while I saw better one not too long ago maybe two years ago three years ago where they were using a real good four K. Monitor and it was it blew me away. But there isn't a As, many people for obvious reasons doing virtual pinball is there are cade and video game maim in that sort of thing. But there's enough and there's also zen pinball I. Think everybody probably downloaded that on their ipad or their phone and play that little bit pretty. Cool. Yeah. It was pretty good. So I've belonged to a virtual pinball group on facebook for a couple years now. It doesn't come up in my time lane very often because I don't interact much. But I'm at the point now where I think I'm going to build a a mini virtual pinball machine. Okay I've got a twenty four inch coming. That's going to be the playfield. and I'm thinking of repurposing of my mini arcade screens as the top part of it. I don't know about the case yet. You know whether I want it to be a table top. or on extremely long legs so I could you know. Stay I don't. WanNa stand there I. Think I want I'd rather sit at it. Yeah. But I don't know that part is almost immaterial. But the thought of building this from scratch not not built not buying some. You know actual pinball and converting it or anything like that actually building the cabinet itself. Disassembling a spare PGA have sitting here. Putting it inside the cabinet, which is no problem I mean yes. It's a big case but I mean, it's only twenty five percent used. Yeah. On announcing here, there's an open source visual pinball. Game engineers a couple. There's. Nothing. This pin name as well, which lets you laid up the rum's from real pinball machines Yup yeah. There's tons of home. So that's what I'm going to be working on the next few months I. Think I think the first thing I'm going to do is clear space. The Monitor. By the way, doesn't even ship until September seventh I'm Kinda ticked off about that If I'd known, it was gonNA take that long out of just canceled it and got it somewhere else but that being said I think what I'm going to do first is completely the PC that I have. Start from scratch and set up all the software. And then I would have to. Go ahead. On in I that's probably the sensible way they not in some respects I'm kind of disappointed because I would really love to sing the windows desktop on pimples. In. A pinball cabinet I think that would be awesome. But I got to there's a couple things I will have to buy obviously I have to buy would and I have Julie Create the the graphics for it and stuff like that. I don't even know what theme I'll go with Yep that's immaterial eventually I have to buy some would in cut it in build the cabinet, the support inside for all the PC in the monitors that and that in itself is kind of fun and that will probably start that in September or October somewhere in there, it might take two pieces apply with that or MDF. But the things that I'm going to have to buy is a is a plunger you know virtual piazza that I could use and I'm debating whether I want to put shakers in and I think I kind of have to. Because I know most of the stuff works with shakers. So if it hits a certain thing, you can actually feel it hitting. Yeah. kind of vibrates these things inside and then you can also do the tilt and all that stuff. So I think it'd be worth to get those and none of that is expensive. I mean it's less than a hundred bucks for everything I just explained yeah and then I'm probably going to have to get some specialty boards to wire all of that into the PC itself including you know the buttons and. I. Am I probably have to put a second Video Board in with the computer. So I can run two different monitors at once I can do it. As it is because it's going to have both HDMI N. Vga. So I can send two different signals to each of those I think I just haven't played with the software at all. I do know that the virtual software for. The, pinball stuff in the front end is infinitely harder than what you get for like a raspberry. Pi? Yet. They're community is just so much smaller. So I've got a couple videos that I've saved to my desktop that kind of walk you through the beginnings of it and I'll wash those and. figure some of that stuff but that's what I WANNA. Do I WANNA I wanNA little virtual. My say little. You know no bigger than saying I MAK Plainfield a little virtual pinball machine. That's not going to take up any space or not that much space anyways. That, we'll have a couple of hundred. Tables on it. And then once it's working I'm not gonNA screw around with it like I, keep doing all the main stuff and the Raspberry Pi. Stuff. that it's just literally turn on boots into the virtual pinball and I could play you know do the Zen pinball and and I don't mind the Zen pinball give me an interface where I can choose what I want to know and I'm happy to buy tables from because they have some pretty cool I I probably spent. I don't know ten fifteen bucks on different tables over the years with Zen pinball. Yeah and it's really fun on the ipad except it's the IPAD and it's not. You know it's like. I wanted to be bigger. I wanted to be laying more flat. And feel like I'm playing pinball and he just doesn't. So you're big pymble Playa back in the day no not at all suck at Pinball I. Enjoy it. But I'm not good at IT I. I I mean I I found with the typically with the light of himbal time tables there. So complicated in terms of the one of the playfield can do and and. The in some respects they amplify one of the things that always irritates me about pinball, which was that they're all. Certain conditions get to on the pinball table where it seems unfair. They because you know the ball will just no matter what you do. You'RE NOT GONNA be able to keep the ball in play, but then becomes less master skill more WLAC an on was put me off pimple. Yeah meteoroid. Ping the ball a lot on. Straight down the middle and there's nothing you can do about it. Right Yeah I'm with you and that's why I didn't play a lot of pinball because a quarter a shot or even fifty cents. It just really wasn't worth it to me I like Yeah GonNa, play it for a minute and I'm going to suck at it and then I'll be done. I'd rather play a video game which to be honest some of those last maybe a minute to, but I was more of a video game guy rather than pinball guy but the virtual pinball. I don't know it seems a little bit more exciting to me. Yes. I'm going to deep dive into that here in the next couple of months You know whether I make like I said a table top or just a small one. That's you know maybe knee height that can play sitting in a chair. Yeah. Because because I'm lazy. and. It's more about space than anything I'd really 'cause I would like to make. So I can maybe fold the the legs up into it and then full the marquee down so I can literally pick it up in move it out of the way when I'm not doing anything rather online arcade that just sits there. Like pinball lap salt. There you go. Yeah. But to have some kind of legs that would fold up or full down so I can literally set it on the floor. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah I mean that that's not an interesting project not something I've ever thought that myself but that'd be cool. Be Interesting. Yeah. Intimidated thinking of see I try to do it a little bit on one of my arcade names. Yeah. I started to set it up and it just I, it just didn't, and then I'm using a game pad controller and I'm like this kind of socks pinball. The actual like I've got probably fifty one hundred. Buttons and switches and stuff like this. I've got all the buttons. I would just need an interface from the buttons and the plunger to the computer. So there's a pack or something like that and then maybe the rumble things I'm not sure how to connect those yet but I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff that you can use. and then programming at all the programming had all is the part that I hate it's boring I like to physical building drilling the hole and putting it in there and wiring it up I like that more than why isn't this button working? No I mean you've got the physical stuff. I another space program. But I, WanNa things always impressed me about pin pinball particularly the old tables was the. The fact he was also real it was all electro mechanical and wide together and all of that sort of thing like. An electrician basically been involved important the design the game together I was very cool when I was. That's what I always liked about him. They were so mechanical even delayed or electric ones that were still mechanical ramps and you know the the bumper things and all that. some of them are almost works of art but they. Some of them I couldn't figure out. There are so many so much crap on the screen or on the on the playfield. Couldn't figure out what I'm supposed to do and Oh five minutes into the game. I just noticed his flippers way at the top to. Like that, it's like don't make it overly complex. The artwork and that's what I like about the virtual pin that I could change tables. Yeah. The the virtual artwork is this. Amazing. Some of it. So I've. I've done the convert a retro thing this week, which has been quite interesting for me. There's a project that came out of while leadership ship lost year. But I'm is a kick saucer that came out in about about three years ago for something called the spectrum next. So the SPEC figure remember talking about that. Yeah. So the spectrum is was the beak. Homegrown be compete in in the UK in the eighties it was on our equivalent, the commodore sixty four we have the sixty four here as well. But the spectrum was the big one spectrums a bit cheaper and it was you know it was uniquely British, it was it was it had some very clever engineering tricks in it to make it cheap. And some Connie limitations. Gave it certain Chom. but it was definitely the computer and I never had one I had the pre previous one to it. The black and white said, excite you one that was my first computer, but I never had a spectrum. I went from his neck site one to to an echo machine, and then on on from there said Commodore meagerness offering but. This spectrum next basically was a PGA pizza and is designed to be not only. The best spectrum, you could ever get in the it's inner a modern interpretation of the retro case but his got all the modern stuff like you know you can load programs off St Card Grace, gmi output now whereas The v the original spectrums Clinton difficult when that modification get pictures out with them and that sort of thing. but also it they enhanced it. They said Ma, we want to add extra things to it so that you can you know you can, but and they have some software developers, a written games for the modern interpretation of what kind of they they mentioned, what the spectrum could have become. So, is it was an interesting project from that point of view, and also because FBGA, it can run calls for different. Pieces as well. So as a very nice package was pretty successful, they funded their kickstarts relatively easily easily and version to now too. So this is what I've. been following this for a while and I've. I actually ended up picking confidant board one of these in an old spectrum case that's complicated. Me playing around with I. Kind of wanted a real one and. The price is on the resale for on Ebay for the real ones have been the so much demand for it. The prices have been kind of four or five ties what kicks. So yeah. This loss we they announced they've been rumbling this for a while and then facebook. They announced kickstarter tea and So invested on pledged for this song to get get my machine probably probably March Schaffel Times now so I'm looking forward to that but was interesting is How quickly this kickstarter funded? They basically, they hit their two hundred. These machines are boundless. saw about three hundred pounds so cheap but you know that's lot cheaper than what they've been go for an Ebay they they hit their funding goal in five minutes. Of Two hundred fifty thousand pounds. and. they will they come preaching one point one million at the moment. why the one I'm looking at spectrum next that's one yet next vision three. Hundred Twenty three pounds styles, and Oh, you're looking on Ebay for the prices. No I'm looking at kickstarter. projects slash spectrum next slash Z X. Dash from Dash. Next. Yeah. So so that is that that's the two of them. Is Three hundred pounds for one three through other three, hundred, three, twenty, five for one of the machines that they have the the social funding goal at the moment is up to they totally investment is up to one point one, million to five days. Spray. Impressive. It is. Yeah. I into. The Nicer case salaries, he Russia the beginning of this lies down. Then they'll probably be an uptick when the thing clauses in twenty five signed but nevertheless, it was it was interesting to see how quickly. What they did with the keyboard where the keys are slightly raised their shaped different kind of like that. Yep. Well A and that that they she had the original is in force. She died couple years ago but they actually had the original designer of the spectrum cases. Do they case? So yeah. gyco Rick Dickinson and So so he was the the second iteration of the spectrum back in the eighty s looked a little bit like this with those those key styles. But but this officer is much better and from people I know who actually have the actual machine. My machine is a deaf board in original spectrum case it uses the the rubber keep keep Kibo Matt they use when back when Israeli, chaser terrible yeah. It's it's not great but you know ECON. Looks it looks the part but this keyboard from the people who have the machines I hear is actually You know it's e equal to abandon keyboard. That's that's little. Yes. So Yeah, three hundred twenty five is is currently the. three, hundred or three, twenty, five, and then then. Prices. Go if you want molding machine. And of course, why wouldn't you well accustomed to meals with the with ebay crisis? Some people have been buying three or four, and then selling them on. and there has been A. Jerk Offs Yeah. There's plenty people as well who who have the league, the first kickstart one they want another one they want to have a spare or they won't have to once all one for programming for game playing and all of that sold deal, and there are some people who just love the team and love what they've done. I mean, I've got to be honest I think pulling this off in this day and age to build a whole new piece from scratch. As a team, those are the baton to teens about fifteen people I think is a is a is a bit of an achievement. And it's definitely something that's worthwhile. Exactly. There's an accomplishment when you get there and it's good that they have the backing of community like they do because that shows that their efforts are worthwhile. That had this is the thing and people support it and I I think. It's great I think that's fantastic. Yeah, and to me, this is the best of kick stories. Rather than some of some of the things which are just horrible cashier. And the things that will so that never shape as well it's interesting you in. These guys are very open and transparent and they've talked about they'd the this second kickstarts around is much more expensive than the first one. Is Gone up by about a hundred and twenty pounds each machine and they've said well turns out lost time we didn't play. We didn't pay sales tax and we should have done. So ended up into pay for alvar pocket, and so now we've had to put it in the price. You'd be amazed at the complaining this been from some people. Base you've already. Yeah you've already built this thing you all you have to do is push the button to make some more. So why isn't it cheaper than it was awesome and all this sort rubbish then. That's that's the Internet World Saharan exactly but no, it's interesting and and you know it's good to see. You know enthusiasts stuff be successful. So I, shall are sure report machine when I take delivery of it. I've been playing a video game lately. A council game at I, which I don't do a whole lot to be honest with you. You know like I bought the new Spiderman game when it came out. In I barely played it. I bought Red Dead Redemption to which I was really looking forward to and I got twenty minutes into and I haven't touched it since. So that's one hundred forty bucks flush down. The toilet is, is that you lacked time? Oh, because you lack interest. it's a little bit of both you know you get home from work and those are two games that you have to invest a lot of time in. You can't just pick up a little bit and put it down Yep and. I think on both of them, the control, the control schemes are. it's a learning curve. and because they don't play it often enough I forget what the help button does what and then I get frustrated and I go F- and I Go do something else I'll go play pacman arcade. Machine. For ten minutes. but this was a free download. On because I'm part of you know xbox gold playstation plus every both of those things renew and I always once a month jump on the respective pages in in purchase if you will for free the free games so huge library. In a lot of those I've never played I haven't even downloaded them. I Kennedy time they want Yom, and then of course, coal, of course plays a lot of that stuff. So. This month on xbox was portal nights. And I know this has been out for a little while and I remember there was some enthusiasm. It's kind of a mind crafting game but not really. So I thought let me give this try the the graphics looked cute. So I thought I'd give this a try. And I got hooked a little bit. So the whole point is you do mining and then you fight some bad guys and then you level up, it's kind of like an RPG building game. Yeah and the Portal night means you're you go through portals you kind of you find where these portals are in the you put these cubes at an unlocks it to another world and this it's uniquely generated for each person. So No to portal worlds for players are GONNA be the same may take the same basic ideas, these characters, but it's going to change things up. So I thought that was kind of cool and I went through I created my universe if you will and I went through about eleven stages, just hack and slash and stuff like that. and I kept picking all this crap. I. Didn't have anywhere to put the stuff. So I went back and I built a little castle on the very first world. and. That was a lot of fun I had a lot of fun building, my little castle. Yeah, and then I started expanding my castle. So what I would do is I go to these worlds had already went to. Completely destroyed the castles and the houses there just to get the building blocks I mean I've got one guy he standing like fifty feet in the air with nothing underneath him because I completely destroyed everything he lived in. LAW HAS BLOCKS TO BUILD MINE So I've been spending. Way Too much time. building. My Castle. Which I got it kind of where I wanted and then I came up with a brilliant idea. I am completely covering the first world and one giant slab of, stone. Why Environmentally friendly. It's not now I once I get it all built. I'M GONNA put a staircase down to the actual world. Going to completely mine every single thing in the world. So there's nothing underneath me, right? So I'm just GonNa have this giant castle and Stone Slab. Floating. In the middle of nothing that's where I want to get to and then I'll stop play the game I don't care about killing the bad guys and going further and all that I don't really care it's it's more of an architectural thing right now I'm just having fun doing it This is the PC these games. Another Charlotte spends many many hours online with friends, they all they all get mine under IPADS and then they. Set. Up A group face on. Cool. So he'll speak to each other and just sit and chat as if there were sat around the table and they're just you know, let's put chair hair and that's not down that wall and you know and that basically that designing these buildings together it says really Kinda. Cool. I, it's amazing what they can do nowadays if we were to have that at her age. You know we had star wars theme. Plans and go to and you know I, I think that the interaction that is great as long as parents are responsible and monitor it to make sure there's no. Bullies in there or hanky-panky going on exactly. Well, she lot of friends play roadblocks and she keeps saying you know could I have Ri- blocks and the problem with right blocks? Is that the way it set up his anybody can come in and right with with the people in there and we know having that. So no robles. Doesn't play roadblocks 'cause he was playing he got into a little bit and then he got really upset because some person came onto his place and they were cursing a lot dad. Yeah. and. That was the into robots for me and. You know all they come in. They smashed you stuff up and. You know all of. This what you know I'm Yet, to deal with people who rejects in real life onto online. Though what that we're going to wrap up this episode of Gigs pub. Hope you guys enjoyed joining us this week. We'd love to have feedback. It's geeks pub podcasts. No, it's the show at shop. That calm. About. It there from. you can always go to my Mac dot com or geeks pub podcast dot com and leave a comment or read them here on the show. We'll be back in a week with Tech Fan yum but we would like to get some feedback from he goes on the show. You, know David. I have been talking about maybe going having certain themes. Such as you know, best movies, of Nineteen eighty-seven something that you know what movies were our favorite movies from you know something television shows music we can do all kinds of stuff. And we like to get your feedback, and of course, this is an open invitation of someone wants to join us. We'd love to have you We do record seven, thirty A. M. Eastern Standard Time in the US on Sundays But it's early for me. But if you're in the UK, it's not so early yet. I'm like I guess we could make it was looking to moving then he's accommodate somebody. From the West Coast. So something. 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Hold His Legs Jar Jar Abrams!

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Hold His Legs Jar Jar Abrams!

"This is Steve and you were listening to the radio network. You're tuned into Steve megatrend on Alder Geek. Hello and welcome to the long-awaited altered Geek. After taking December off for the most part He returned and I am. Steve Phillips join me is like the band and Alex Alex from this week. Oh my God on a podcast. It's almost like we do this on a weekly biweekly and all the time basis. Hello hello it'd be. It's probably been about a month and a half since we recorded a whole slew together right like so about. It's it's nice to get back into it. I'm the only one sitting here twiddling my thumbs. Like why am I not getting emails. Oh yeah people are away so it's holiday time and well we're back for the most part. I mean to give you a peek behind the audio curtain. That existed Ultra Geek. We're recording this just before New Year. So belated New Year's because it's it's likely two thousand twenty right now and we have twenty twenty vision so Walters hopefully everyone had a good holiday. How many more blanchard puns can we get in here? It depends on how much algae WANNA touch on. How many refund go pops you got I? I wouldn't be surprised if he has a a like twenty twenty the TV. Show the Fun Cobra. Barbara Walters PARCO would actually want one of those. That would be Kinda cool as long as they could talk. And say you're watching watching twenty seven twenty if I could get fun to those of Barbara Walters Walter Cronkite and Dan rather famous journalist loosed. I'd be okay with that. They don't have to be bobbleheads. Because by now the Parkinson's that's horrible. Every every going to hell man. Hey Hey I said that. In the past now twenty twenty. It's okay he's he's having his pellet wait claim. Oh God yeah. Hopefully everyone had a good holiday up here in Canada. At least with me and Blair and this tweet crew things are pretty good quiet as I talked about on Twig we had my father in law passed away a couple couple of weeks ago. And thank you to everybody who reached out to me definitely meant a lot In short his service was attended by like three hundred people so this guy was huge in the community. So that was rather nice Our Christmas was kind of it was small somber but very very sweet highlights included my sister-in-law Keira got me pictures pictures of Wiley and Ayla as Duke and Duchess from the eighteen hundreds. That's obey look ridiculous And I got at Blair. A life sized crocheted baby. Yoda which she cried. She was so happy thing and for something hand made and that quickly. It's insane the quality like the girl who makes it is I know or I used to know her as Tronto wonder woman when she was a cast member with me on. MTV creeped a couple of years ago. And we've just stayed in touch ever since. She's giving me a few handmade items over the years but if I need something made I go right to her and her quality is second to none and oh and she got me a cup says. Don't be a CONTA- source so I love my wife and my coffee taste that much more vulgar so good times on the outs. I have been sick. Which is which I very rarely get but I decided I'm going to visit my mom and my grandma for Christmas Went over Christmas Eve and and immediately with sick for what felt like forever. I basically slapped from Christmas Eve until I the the twenty seventh twenty eighth maybe and then finally feel like one hundred percent now and I'm like where did my Christmas I was. Go at some point. I made a Turkey for everybody but I have vague recollections of doing that half asleep did you do it yourself I I I yeah but overall I mean other than being sick it was again pretty low key I got a you know a ton of clothes from Santa like whole bunch of socks. which is what I wanted them like an old person? I want socks and That's about the only other thing I'm doing is I'm I'm putting together my own modified original xbox because I was thinking when the new xbox comes out oh next year I still or at the end of the year. They said it's going to be backwards. Compatible with every generation. We only thing is if you don't own those games physically or you're probably going to have to the licenses right and I went. Well I'M NOT GONNA be able to buy you know digitally every license. They're going to charge a ton of money. Whereas you can actually actually get the original games fairly cheap on you know in disc format Also the the homebrew community is pretty crazy still on the original xbox and I went so. There's all these after Chris sale so I ended up getting a original xbox for thirty six bucks That included cables and an end to controllers. And I'm in the process of modifying still waiting on the macho to come because you know male is slow. But I'm teaching myself to do. Some basic soldering soldering Nagata. soldering kit for it lobby Blah Yada Yada The only thing I've changed so far with it is I. I did open it up and clean out. There's a little rubber band in the DVD. Drive I have that open and close and it was stuck. It wouldn't open so I had these paper clipped open it and apparently it's a very common thing where there's like dust and dirt that gets on the the rubber ever so you take it out wash it with a little bit of soap dry it off put in networks perfect and I replaced the Cable because yes that systems all enough that it's still he's data cables. Wow But they used like really old. Id Gables even though newer ones have been available so it was a forty wire cable which is up slower and I paid ten bucks to get a Eighty wire cable which is more standard with what we're used to in like the homebuilding seen back in the day so basically doubles the bandwidth so the low times are cut in half like when I put a discussion. It's surprisingly fast. Even though it has a maximum data rate. I think of one hundred the second on on those on those all. ID Cables but I also purchased a To Sata adapter. So so then I'll be able to plug in a solid state drive once modify it. That's sort of I'm like. I didn't get really anything Geeky for Christmas myself. But I got a bunch of gift cards and stuff. And that's what I'm putting it into building building my cell phone and ultimate Retro Xbox like when you get emulation running on those things you can didn't do so much cool shit. I have a modified xbox myself. I've got maim on their. Ps One you can get PSU running on them but it's harder other. I actually want it fairly vanilla I want it to be I. The ability to install stuff will be there obviously once they put a much. I can put anything on there but the the reason I wanNA certified with a macho is not just teach myself slaughtering Because you can soft Mont any of these. This is the newest one point six version which is apparently the one that had the most I the revisions versions were done to make it so that it wasn't really audible but you still can. I mean it's been long enough people figured out how But it's that you can once you have a macho man you can pop any hard-driving to not have to go through a whole bunch of steps of making it work so I did purchase a four hundred eighty gig of allstate drive so it's going to be it's hilarious. That like the the hard drive and all the little cables and everything and up costing as much if not more than the system. But I'll be able to basically have an entire digital library of every exclusive game on it and just futz around with that at for fun whenever I want to just out of curiosity isn't isn't windows. Ten supposed to be able to play xbox games xbox one games and only certain games. So you have to have a blu-ray drive which I do have now for my my windows ten PC But you you have to own them physically and has to be Microsoft First Party. Titles that are that are certified certified for play anywhere so if you have a halo game. Sure it'll work but or gears five or so but if you pop it in just a random title no okay is wonderfully worth it if you have if you have the need to play some of these games like I recommend stuff like the outer worlds. or here's or Halo. It's totally worth. I also don't have. GT X ten fifty which is good enough for entry level gaming. But I'm it's mostly closely there just for the coding capabilities of it. I don't have a car powerful enough to really run those games and Mac and I have an xbox one x so I I would have to go. I got good. PC when it comes to the CPU and everything is rising three series like the newest Zan to architecture which is is great but my video card is like five years old so i. It's not really worth me doing that on there so otherwise I would. I could see myself playing some games on there if I had the ability but I'm also not the guy that's going to spend five hundred bucks upgrading. My video curve. No more. I don't. I'm still people book. Input like twelve hundred dollars in the video cards. Yeah Well Yeah my dad spends like about that is too so that you can have them. Oh yeah as a lie but like honestly I have one in. It's a G force. GTE Six seventy Johnnie and it's it's got to Gig of memory on it in. It works fine with everything that's out now and it's probably six years old it's probably Martinez. That's probably that's that's a generation or two before mine so here's about seven years old. Yeah and honestly it works with everything and I can plug in three monitors I think. Mike's Bikes is Mike. Says the same generation as my when I checked but yours is actually one or two models higher so you yes cool. No I'm pretty sure. A ten six tenths seventy whereas upgrade this year at some point. But I'm not sure. Yeah we'll we'll figure it out. I've been going to throw money at it until the problem goes away. I've been holding off because I've got that the new system and everything I'm just waiting probably for like the there's the fifty five hundred new. MD ones that are coming out I'm waiting for something to come out at the and not not the American dollars but like something in the like two hundred fifty dollars can median rain which will be like one step below that probably in the summertime. They'll come come up with something something. That has the newer encoding capabilities of the newer codex. And then is like a marginal upgrade to my aiming like. I would like something like that like. Keep me modern so that can do anything. I don't expect it to do like I'm not going to be doing four K. gaming on my PC. Unless it's through stadium or something. Because I just don't I don't see the point of my console Gamer Yeah I that's one thing. I don't want to upgrade breath anyways for now is video card because I just don't want to dump the money into In used to be a console game but I'm not anymore like I I just I pretty much do. PC in that's about it from your tastes games and like the fact that with your kids and everything I could see you if anything eventually getting switch and that would be plenty to do whatever you switch is a pretty good investment. I'd say for the like I don't know if you necessarily want you're playing but if you were to have them play games it is family friendly enough that you could lock them down on that and and and get. The switch is getting to the point where most ports anyway in anything that doesn't get very P centric anyway so actually wait a second. I just thought of something. Steve Remind me to talk to you about an Xbox when we get off this call because I just had a thought for you okay. I'm I'm GonNa Bring you into the next generation of console gaming. Okay 'cause up yours you're gonNA join us and you're GONNA like it. Yes I guess. That's that's how we make friends. We force awesome. That's right play us. Dammit I learned about mass effect. See It's worth it. It's gorgeous soap. You actually actually really good so But yeah so I mean like as far as the stuff concern you know. It's it's Kinda geared towards I've been in Xbox Fan for years because I just prefer their architecture in their their controller and before that I can play Nintendo and in some of the Sony stuff but I had been more of a xbox fan the last past couple generations so but yes not so yes I was. I was Christmas in the the the Megatonne House. The megaton house yes so I made one of the gifts for my wife which was like a picture frame that we saw at a store that was like insanely mainly overpriced for what it was and then I can do better. So he probably wasn't even more she does because I took time and I had this block of wood that I've I brought with me from the old house than I actually have a lot of work that I brought with me but this particular piece was bow. The right size is is this frame that we saw in the store and I you know smartly when she picked up like that it was like. Oh that's really nice. Cost too much and then put it down in. I was with with the kids and they were straggling behind so shot a picture of it like filed it away mentally for later and then come too close to Christmas. And I'm like I need to make something and then I found this block would that I had saved for months ago. Spray painted and head to do all the painstaking drilling into it and trying to make sure everything was working the way I I needed it to resemble what what was in the store in so she thought that I wrote on it but I bought from the store. So it Kinda worked out for me and then we. We used an old coffee table that we got at a yard sale for five dollars and re finished repainted. It's read in glued Eight ten by ten legal boards to the top of it to make a Lego table. Cool Dude that's pursell. Yeah and when you lifted up because it's one of those ones where you lift up the table LID in the new guy compartments inside. They've got compartments for Lego kits. Already but what I was. Thinking is the instruction manuals Didn't have a place to go before tonight. Do and they love it because they can build on top of the table now and So that'll be a nice little fixture for when when we move and they the tunnel lego stuff than With his legos starts close to hear that I built custom. Lego figures for him That kind of look like them when they thought that was the coolest thing in the world and I got an air compressor which was awesome because the week before I get a flat tire my minivan and and I I was going to take my my son up to the store and I can in the minivan nicer getting out of the driveway realizing that it's not sound in her driving rates and pull back in the driveway and realized that I had a completely flat tire new air compressor in the van doesn't come with a spare tire so I I had a Millennia vehicle was gone because my wife was gone with my older son out doing something school related and So I got the bike tire pump in fifteen minutes later ahead of only inflated tire that I was able to you. Take up to the The tire shop and Luckily it was in the same plazas the stories we needed to shop at anyway so I was able to get the tire patched. But yeah that was just so excited to have a air compressor land for all the nerdy needs like you'll never have to buy. compressed trusted clean any computer parts or electron ever again now now. I'm so excited about that because I can. I can turn that sucker on bringing in the House and then just air blow out the computer And think about all the balloons you can birthdays. That's true I didn't even think of that. That's funny and Cleo the garage floor and other things like that so yeah I was. I was super excited about it About getting that and we got a board game we got. What was it seven wonders? Here's I've heard about it. Yeah he's played it but I've heard of it Have you played ticket to ride once. Yeah okay I got a lot. Are Those Games like I've got Got that got splendor got Settlers of Catan. A bunch of games like that. Can you guys do like a board game night at home. Oh yeah all the time. So I don't I don't have many but What we do have it's it's what What are hardcore board game friends Got Us into so. It's been nice. Yeah sounds like lots gone on with us. Yeah so should we get into the meat with the yes we should get into the meat potatoes of it. So it's our sucked all right. Can I guys unless you're Mandal Oria. Okay well let's talk arises skywalker first. We'll go around the panel in each give her you know Reader's Digest version of what we thought about it what we liked what we did like view earn. I'll go because I know that Dodds going to say what he wants to say in be be long ended in the never. WanNa talk about it again. So I'll be very simple because I was very elaborate online with This is a movie movie that is two hours and I think ten minutes long daters that should have been four and a half hours based on the plot so it either should have been to movies but they were obsessed with having trilogy or they should have found a way to tell the story with actually having a proper pace because the movie starts never gives itself at any time to breathe is McGovern after macguffin after macguffin bad writing bad writing after bed. Ready also bad bad take after bad after bad take which was surprising because even with The original or out of the original the prequel trilogy as wooden as the dialogue was it still sounded like it had been well rehearsed. There's a lot of scenes in this movie where it sounds like. They're saying the lines for the first time and then never ever come back to it Plot holes abound What else there's no point to anything? It seems like it was written by a six year old and and every every aspect of it with every fiber of my being except for Palanquin because e McDermott is a fantastic actor actor and I'll give him he did a fantastic job with what he could also wedge shows up for like three seconds on the screen and I'm okay with that and that's it for me done okay. So where does one start with this betrayal will if you're the end at the end okay. So I just read this today rumor. Or maybe it's confirmed now I'm not sure. Kathleen Kennedy Candy. The president of Lucas film wanted to bring palpitation back. PALPITATION has been the bad guy. Threw it all these movies. Okay that's cool but you've just done with the heroes of done in six movies. Okay first off when the emperor comes back in this movie it just comes at a frigging nowhere and this seems like way over correction direction for the last Jedi. I need a love that movie or hated. I'm indifferent to it. It was okay. I didn't hate it. Love it either. Riser skywalker it. Never ever give anything a chance to breathe. It's nothing but fans service moment after fans are Ma and while some of that is cool. It doesn't connect with with you the way that it should and I was watching Mark Bernardi From fatman beyond Kevin. Smith's podcast emit a really really really good point point. Do you remember innovators and game. When cap has the shield and mule neronha shield crappy as the shit kicked out of him uh-huh and he says? And you hear Sam the Falcons say on your left. And he's like Oh my friends are coming right and you have that emotional moment net really connect with if you In that moment that character was reinvigorated alive again. You as the audience were right there with them. In this movie Landau and Chewy. Take off with the Falcons like. Don't worry we'll bring help. And just when the fleets of PLO dominant all his buddies or having the crap kicked kicked out of him. You hear a voice over the radio. Say We're here. WHO's here all of us and PO? DAMARA's really excited podins has met Landau had over a grand total of five frigging minutes So you don't connect to it you don't care we're excited as the audience because you know who Landau Liane chewy are we know that they've got this audience but podium does not give a shit that Landau brought his buddies because he doesn't know him. That emotional payoff. Moment is not there and that's the problem with this is supposed to have all these emotional moments and while there are some in here. You're like what big problems with this is. This movie had a chance to be ballsy because at least with the last Jedi they they killed Luke. That's a pretty big frigging deal and this one had the balls to kill Chewbacca and three Po. But but both those are ret conned or reversed within like twenty minutes of each other like like you see right sieff lightning and blow up a transport. Oh He's dead Oh wait. He's on a starter stronger. Just so happens to be in orbit okay. I'll let that go and then three. Po the line from the trailer. I'm taking one last. Look at my friends and you find out. He asked her have his memory wiped to read this shift Agar with by the way to hell with that and like his memories what he gives them the location to exile cool. Oh there's a backup of three. Po Jio in our choose memory. How convenience just before the mission yeah exactly? Oh thankfully there's an I cloud how backup of that. And the most annoying thing to me about Roger Skywalker. And I've said this many times before I even said it on national channel radio a couple of weeks ago is when you look at Skywalker. It's like somebody handed Caffeine Katie J.J. Abrams and the writers writers they look at Star Wars Cannon's nineteen ninety and foreword because all that's been wiped out now with the exception of clone wars rebels and some novels and some comic books which is fine but they took the existing e. You wrote read through once. Didn't understand. And what they were reading wrote down what they could from memory after only having it read once wrote it down and Crayon very very fast for someone with swapping out notepad papers candidate these to the writers of Roger Skywalker and said Okay here. Here's some cool ideas. Can you make it work. Yeah sure maybe I guess and what we got was very sloppy. Very Fan Service you without making any sense sense. I mean the emperor's coming back to life happened in the college book series called Dark Empire in the nine which was awesome. Yeah yeah which was great. We had dark apprentice Luke. We had a really weird story. Line with the emperor is going to be born into Laos. Unborn son okay. Creepy and weird but cool to coney on his body yeah and he kept calling as there was a reason for him to come back. I mean I'm story. When the emperor got thrown down the shaft of the Second Death Star he was frigging atomised iced? You Ain't coming back Mr Darth plague as the wise no you are wiped out your dearth. Cities you're dead. Do frigging and no just just there were some cool with. Oh and then there's randomly throwaway lines. You're part of a diet now. Excuse me your approval. What oh we're we're just going to gloss over that? Don't worry lightsaber fight. Oh and now teleportation zipping in Star Wars because grandma you can now pass objects back and forth through the force. I can see where you can force fight in two different locations. Yeah because you know what I. Would you know what I would have done if I was ray always always have a thermal detonator on me so in Kylo Ren decides to contact me click boom movies over roll credits but now there's in this movie. This actually happened. So when I'm in skywalker sitting with my wife Blair in my wheelchair and the the second credits rolled I turned on my wheelchair and I drove out there pissed off and I ran over. My Wife's purse thankfully thankfully our phones weren't crushed because I was that mad and Blair's like did you not like the movie like no employers. I hated it too and people were coming coming out of the theater and they were talking and I could tell. I was a minority although reading the responses online. I know I'm definitely not alone. aloneness talking with my friends from nerd to the third power which you can check out their episode on our website. Right now and billy Dr Gonzo puts. What's it very well? The expanded universe should expand your tell more stories. Give you a little bit more background if you want it. It should not a half to explain it when comics and books and everything have to explain plot points for you understand the movie you're watching. You have failed old as a property. In that regard it's cool to read the mass effect novels. That explain who the illusive man was. But but you don't need to read those to know who the illusive man is in mass effect. Two and three you just know. He's the bad guy he fronts a human supremacists or your organization and he sucks but you know he came. This is where he came from. Okay cool that it just it expanded but it didn't explain it to you and that's that's the problem with these things is. There are so many things that were left unexplained that there's so many as Alex put it plot holes that if you're a huge fantasy franchise and you generally care about it. It really gets under your skin when you start thinking about it. And don't even get me started how they sidelined line certain characters. I mean I love Finn I think John Boyega is a wonderful actor but he is woefully inconsistent between all these movies. I mean they had an awesome romance set up for him with rose from the last Jedi I. She gets a minute thirty seconds of screen time in this movie living and they tried to explain this away in a Hollywood reporter article like yesterday as of this recording. I'm thinking wow bullshit. Sorry Steve If you're GONNA have to edit a lot on episode plot it's just it doesn't fly with me. There's just so many problems with this and I understand. There are problems with Carrie Fisher passing away and that's okay. You have to work with what you got. Because they didn't want to dishonor her memory by doing the weird photo digital actor thing and that's fine. I'm fine with that but don't Piss in my ear and tell me it's raining. The script had problems from day. One the problem problem with the new trilogy is cannon was thrown out the window and it doesn't make any sense. There was no creative and direct vision for movies. One two three that said okay. Here's what's going to happen and movie one. Here's what's going to happen at the end will make it work there was no unified vision. Say what you will about the prequel movies but that was a democracy that turned fear in the fasten awesome and you saw how the Galactic Republic fell. You knew what the plotline was if I asked interview. Explained to me the new trilogy in an elevator in an elevator pitch you have thirty seconds or less the tell me what the new movies are about. You probably can't but you can tell. Tell me what what the prequels are about. And what the original trilogies about the new you cannot I can tell I can tell you. What out here we go here? We go J.J Abrams only makes remakes. So the first movie is a remake remake hope to skies as a new movie. So it's a lie The last Jedi is a side story masquerading as a main story With a stupid stupid stupid way to kill off. The main character of the entire series and the the newest one is a convoluted masses. Three movies mix into one in other words. There's there's there's a Oh you want the actual plot okay. Yeah everything is cyclical and this is just a remake of the original trilogy almost plot for plot point with a lot of special effects that need to be there done okay but again. That doesn't explain everything because you can't. You cannot explain everything that being said. I will say positive things about the neutral G.. Now I like some of the characters I like. Ray I like Finn. I Love Love Po. Hell I wanted to see the Po- and Thin Romance. That's bromance when they meet each other in the force awakens after they they think each other's dead they give each other a look of man. I'm so glad you're back. And it's a little more than friendship and I'm okay with that. They pushed for that. According to Oss Oscar arises but Disney right to take that risk. Give it twenty years probably and I like Kylo Ren he it looks cool he sounds cool. Adam driver is a great actor with what he's given. He's NEAT I like him. He's really neat. The first order design aesthetic. I love the look of imperial technology. Always have although if you pay the bottom of the first order stormtrooper helmet it looks like Donald Duck but that aside there are some really creative decision this locations in these movies that's neat. We saw a different. We see different biomarkers. That's cool seeing the original characters back. That's kind of neat making some ballsy decisions like killing in Hong Solo okay. I'm totally fine with this but half cooked ideas and cool concepts are not enough to carry a saga forty. Two years in the making of this is the capstone the skywalker Saga it ends with kind of a wet fart life okay. What wasn't there some sort of big big hubbub over the last two movies building up his car? Lorenzo basically like enforcer group. I forget the name of them now. The nights of ran. Oh Yeah. They're in thirty seconds of footage and they get killed in like two seconds. Yeah and if you want to know more about them you have to read the comic books. And here's the thing even the comic books. If I was a fan of this comic books it'd be like they're so cool with the died. In thirty seconds there was nothing to them. So what was the point of buying the comic books. Yeah it's land like I actually. It went on Wikipedia last night to read up on the nights of Ren. And you know who they are. They're not sieff they're just dark side warriors who've been gathered. Okay bye bye. Kylo leads them. The largest largest largest stupid thing that they've done with casting is shock the cast famous people and then have the die or disappear within like two seconds. What's her name from the Internet? The starting pay for Kosten whatever. Her name was leader of all Gwendolyn Christie. Yeah yeah she was the head of this they pumped her up in all the pre really stuff to be a hugely significant part to the story and she's in total of like less than five minutes of the entire trilogy and it's instills with no no. It's like if I were her. I would be fucking pissed. I would be. I would be mad. That I was part of the Sham. Yeah Yeah like I actually read about FAZ men. She does appear in Star Wars Resistance which is the animated series which is cool but yeah she's essentially the Boba Fett in this franchise. She looks neat. She has a cool back story. She has vastly important to the first order. But she gets killed off by Finn in the last Jedi. I was hoping she she would somehow still be alive but no she was both added and that bothers me. 'cause he's a wonderful actress and that character her deserve so much better. The whole trilogy screams corporate madly meddling mismanagement and hey look who we have under contract contract for something. Let's just keep hiring people and will create characters for them and see where it goes. It's like like this trilogy should have had had all three bibles for the for the stories written before anything was shot for the first part And you can clearly tell. They didn't and because that's exactly what they've had for the avengers they've had every phase main story plots not the not every bit of dialogue but all the main in story plots for every movie is written for each phase before the next phase starts. And that's because Kevin is running it. I mean one can Kathleen Kennedy because we got the the mandatory but she's connected in that with name only because she's producer on everything there dave fee. Only you're lonely. Yeah he's had Jon Favreau. He's the guy that at the clone wars the law in Ireland. He launched Murgles medicated. Yeah nobody thinks whereas if you wanted somebody to run somebody to run your continuity eighty for all your movies you should get the Falana Guy. Because he's somebody who's done multiple episodes of animation He's if you watch the end of the mandatory episodes. Let's he's the guy doing all the art for those those still shots. Those are all the storyboards play like. They're not like usually storyboards or wire frame. No he's doing entire tire paintings. And so they're those shots are not based on like. Hey we we shot this on film and drawing after those are what they're basing the film on breath so it's like that guy super detail want us him so over Kathleen Kennedy. I feel like she's if you look at her history she was. She started like anybody else as an executive assistant but the problem was she got a lot of producing power without ever having produced. I used to actually produce. You know what I mean like. She's she's been given a lot of executive power without actually getting her hands. Dirty making the films she she would have done that. Had she not gone and shot up being an assistant to being a producer. Almost right away I mean maybe she cut her teeth. Maybe doing Wyk. Another property animated show or something that would have been finally like she started as she was like an executive assistant to Spielberg and and then like on In the early eighties like when when Amblin started and then worked her way up and different companies for that. So it's like great but I've never heard of her actually being hands on producer. She somebody who sits there takes notes and then goes. Here's what I want you to do. Even though she doesn't have an eye for cinema if that makes any sense she is more of a business person but then she trip. I don't which would be fine. If she didn't and try to tout herself as being like she she clearly takes all the successes and like praise herself but then tries to deflect all the blame in. Something's wrong there was one thing that she said. This was a recent quote from this past summer. She said in an interview and I quote something along. These lines is says the problem is making star wars is we have nothing to base them on. You have no books. No Comic Books Television. You are so beyond full full of Shit. Yeah and she didn't she didn't correct yourself either. After they. What about the expanded universe? She could have said. We made a conscious decision at the company to move forward without without these. No double down. Yeah I mean it's one thing to have the new Disney Canon with with rebels clone wars the novel and Comic Books Now. That marvel is part of Disney as well. That's fine but I don't know because the thing is with expanding universe. Yes yes there are problems with it however it was more or less I'd say probably about seventy five percent. Maybe if I WANNA be conservative about seventy a consistent universe starting with Timothy. John's hair to the empire trilogy which started in Nineteen Ninety one all the way to the end of the US on Vong Long War and beyond when the Disney deal happen and then that got turned star wars legends and there was some great writers in there there's Michel a stack poll with the x wing series there was Timothy's on with the Throng Joji. Now thron has been brought back as a character. Thank God for that and other characters but also Kevin Kevin Janssens New Jedi Academy trilogy from the nineties. So it's not like Star Wars Canon wasn't good in it wasn't film. It's just for whatever reason parts of it not discovered along the way and I guess Disney wanted to own it all. Aw Start with their own things. The problem is there was some cool things and then you probably can salvaged totally and see my my whole take on on the movie was I didn't like the last Jedi and I know that I'm back in one film. The the the force awakens. Yeah I felt it was okay. It was I mean. It was a remake. So you kind of get what you get but really needs is to get a stroke or something. Because I feel like he all he does are remakes. Every single remake. Look at the Star Trek movies to I liked the first one but then even the first one was like. Oh it's it's not of sorts. Yeah exactly and the car now. So that's with the the starter the he's all he's all style and no substance in anything he does. He's made a and I haven't seen super eight but then I hear. Oh it's just basically. He took all all his favourite eighties. Movies are made. Read them all into one movie. Okay so again remake. He has made a total of one movie. That was an original idea. Uh even then it was part of a franchise and that's when I wreck to`real movie which was mission impossible three and ever since then everything he's done has been a remake big and he'll try to lie and dress it up and everything. Is He soap boring. It's visually boring because it's just lens flare. After length later on and then they gotta make stuff shiny just for the sake of. He's worse than Michael Bay. At least Michael Blow Shit up and no and he knows he's a bad director but a great action director. The problem is isn't even a good action director. Yeah but yeah the my my whole grape with the last Jedi was it. Felt like it was like this trick. Insurrection of Star Wars like it felt like it should have been like an in between story line or a like a in episode episode of the show of of whatever it is instead of actual film and the rise in. I also hated how they killed off Luke but in almost made in like this evil master and granted I liked his force projection. But at the same time. Like I didn't care for how they get rid of them. The problem is why and they've been having off the old cast. Why can't any just actually die like it's always the disappearing force ghost shit? It's like okay but every time that we have this happen to a main character. It's a stupid way that they did. It reminds me in the the The second film Is that the clone wars. Where the they they killed off a ton and they didn't just miraculously exactly? It was cold becoming a force. Ghost is a skill and it's too and remember that technique was perfected. Did did but nobody else had done it. Whatever but like I feel like the WHO trilogy okay? Why is everybody jar jar? Why is everybody silly? Why is everything silly in these movies? Now because they they have to like unless they have to have their their their massive list of macguffin one character that slight female that can save them all like you. It was terrible and it was silly but everybody else was serious in those the prequel trilogy and I think I think if anything Lucas Oakland laughing laughing and laughing and laughing because his his prequels which were derided initially are going to be viewed as so much better than this trilogy the funny because people are already ranking his His films higher than this trilogy. And what's funny. Is Some people regard. The last Jedi really high even though it was garbage and it was like really and solo is garbage to to what aspects of it were were. Decent Rosa was okay. But it wasn't what stars and we should have been exactly rogue one is the only one that actually works. And if you look rogue one has more in common with like obviously with the the originals who directed that one that was i. Can't I know I know you on this too. I know for world he he came in. Maybe Ron Howard came into fix solo. Like you mentioned how bad sola would have been if they hadn't had Ron Howard to try to fix things actually know. Switch that because because the pro what happened was solo. Is the two guys who did it with the guys who worked on the Lego movie and they had the actors do multiple takes like a crap ton they went way over budget Kathleen Kennedy or whoever was in charge of the budget didn't like that so the actors were doing a great time but but they didn't like how the script kept changing because they're having more. The movie was more funny and things were changing on the set on on on the day. So so they're brought in Ron Howard with three weeks left of shooting so Sola would've been completely different movie. Had it been finished as intended but the people people who are in charge of the script and the budget didn't like that. Okay so enforce. The rogue one was Gareth Edwards. He's the guy that directed the new Godzilla movie. That was really yes. Yes yes and there were even problem with that. Because there were many script rewrites and stuff we saw that was shot specifically for the trailer never made it into the movie. I watch these one. I think I think it was on joe blow videos on Youtube. It's called what it's called. What the Hell happened to this movie? Or whatever and they do wonderfully deep dive on on Solo Andro wanting to see the production problems at each ad though rogue one of the Star Wars movies is probably the best under the new Lucas deal. Because it's the one that feels the most like a war movie it's so different doesn't jet. IBS to hold it up and that has a comedy that's in it is it. It's it's the kind of stuff you'd find the best way to describe it was. It was the dirty dozen or the great escape mixed together as a star with blasters. Yeah and it works and like how is it that Dr Theater in the last two minutes of that movie who've can be more menacing terrifying amazing looking than any bit of lightsaber battles. We've seen over the course of seven hours the new trilogy. Yeah there is only one seen in rise of skywalker were Kylo Ren looks really bad ass res Martin to this random crowd the people driving his lightsaber to them for some reason. I don't even know who is killing. He's just there because yeah birth eater when when he stealing the one of only two megaphone items. Yeah exactly. That's the only time he looks bad ass and you're right like and they filmed. They got special money. Honey film that Darth vader see for rogue one. And it's one of the best things to come out of the Lucas deal in the last five years. It's the only one that is actually good for the lore. It you know I'm not I usually am a guy who hates you. Know Bridging the gap between things. I am the person and didn't like the Enterprise took place before something I don't I lake when when movies and move the cannon but this was has the story that people had been wanting to hear for a long time because it was always mentioned like too many people lost their lives to get this. You know get these plants and then and then you find line and you see it and you're like Holy Shit. It was a really good movie. I hope that all these other stars who is going to be like this wrong like this this director back like like you know it's because I I don't think we want to die of too much into this because we're GONNA we're GonNa WanNa talk about the man to Lorient on another episode but but I'll say this th this cinematic universe has to take a two to three year break the care. They can't have another one. I think it needs to take longer. I think they need to just double down here. There are actually. There's serious twenty two. I believe right now. They were scheduled. One there's supposed the old they're supposed to be doing nights knights of the old republic which will take aspects of maybe the Bio ware established universe. But the only knock. That's all legends. Now then they'll take the nice little republic one and two were not considered candidate more but the old republic and memo is. Because it's still something like that. Yeah that's it. That's what I meant. But yeah they're they're gonNA take the idea four thousand years or so before the battle of Yavan which I'm okay with because that's so far back that it's basically a different civilization and culture. So we're we're not gonNA worry about. Oh we're going to creep into sucking up the rest of the law in the series. Yeah we're not going to see death stars we're not GONNA see in. Oh He. Oh it's also going to mean maybe. Hey we're going to see like the one thing that that the prequel movies did do. Right was showing a clean universe. That's like hey you know no new. Everything was this'll be like when everything was really knew like. Hey there's there's there's not going to be a whole lot of like ancient technology you're going to have the ancient ruins of like pre space-age stuff but you're not gonNA have like a relic ships being you know piece together. It's going to be like when when the population was a lot. More in. There are a lot more people that were force users. Yeah exactly like. There's so much from the old republic era. That's exciting. Yeah I mean. I used to read the the dark horse comics when I was a kid. They were called tales of the Jedi. And there's like blind force users. There's no me songwriter. Xsara coon the Great Sieff Lord the Sixth Wars there is so much storytelling potential here. Yes it's more Djeddai crap rappaport. I'm okay with that as long as it's cool and it'll be neat. I mean at least we're getting on television. We're going to get the OBI Wan series I think again like two years. Thank God for that I still think we'll get a mandatory in movie considering the success of the TV. Show my my my guess. We'll be We'll talk about that during the mandoline. Probably GONNA get three to four seasons of the man delorean and they'll do a movie. You know what I want and I've talked with Alex about this in our just general nerd talks. I want something along the lines of rogue one but I wanted as a TV series. I want it set during the clone wars following a republic commando unit so bring back tomorrow Morrison and have it be about a squad of clone commandos and have it be like band of brothers Mick. It a war story Houthem some go behind the lines of Gino Sus or something or has it been like that and we. We discuss it not. This would not be a series that has multiple seasons. It would be. Hey we're going to do a limited like it's going to be like a four or five week event. Each week is going to be an hour and ten minute episode. And you're GONNA show chapters. There's like you know. Here's how banded together here's how we thought alongside the Jed eye and then at the it's a four part at the end of the second part you're execute order and then you the preview for the next part. Maybe you have to wait six months to watch the last two parts but like the preview is just them maybe fighting fighting the programming or maybe somebody in in the band or what are people. It doesn't work. Maybe their their chips. Defective yeah and and they. They're looking looking around like they get headaches and see. We're we're having and they're like why is everybody turning on the jetty and there may be the last one or maybe the last. Maybe they're the only squadron that does it was still loyal they don't turn and it's them having to fight their own brothers to protect the Jedi and and trying to seek out who whomever you know tainted them in their mind down. I just watch the clone. Wars one word Fives figured out. Not Yeah well. He figured out that his His buddy went nuts and then he had his chipper moved in the this whole conspiracy Gino's with the clones and. Yeah so it was a little crazy but Like they they could do so much with the with limited series on the on the network because we know that you know. There's there's more risks they can take by not having it go to theaters. And they'll put the budget behind it. Because look at the success demand Lawrence had the second most on-demand shore now the only thing that's beating at right now is the witcher. Yeah so let's say let's cut it off there as far as star wars talk breakers we want all separately. Well true but I did out of the last of this The rise of skywalker. I did like the emperor coming back. I wish they would have explained how he was back. Besides plugged into a machine with chemicals being pumped in the is weird. The teleportation of Lightsaber. Saber was weird like it like all Hollywood ahead to do like in my mind and it would have been hokey but it would have been an explanation. Is You know you really WanNa mess with. People have him have have him reveal. Like hey you you think you had one over me and find out that he's the first SIP Lord to figure out how to do Force coast and he basically is inhabiting a clone of his own body. Bam done I think that should have brought back smoke and made him still be the big bad because they built snow up over two movies and this palpitation. Comeback is like Oh yeah. Snow was totally my idea. Won't they should or could read. Yeah well I was GONNA say there should have put help attain at the end of the last Jedi I N had had some kind of a sinister after credits thing where you see the tanks of snow and you know he had some kind of a line like you know this is only the beginning and you know now I will execute the final order and then it just cuts the black or something and then he hasn't been able to walk around. It should have been you know. Maybe he wasn't completely vaporized. Used all of his energy for energy to dislike protect himself insist. He's he's a husky any e should have been like when he when they went through that Weird Rock Pyramid. Whatever it wasn't it should have been? Oh He's legit like like when they see talking to him. He's not actually they're like that's a force projection and if you look behind like he's literally on life support to a bunch of machines and that he's doing everything through his mind that would have been cool and then like how they beat him would have been not how they beat them. It could have been like. Oh what do we have to. It's like trying to destroy the machine that doesn't doesn't work and it's like it takes them to basically blasted machine away. I did like how did like how he was able deliver store himself using them but I thought it was dumb at the same time that he basically was done in by the same thing that killed him the last a few times yeah force lightning good good idea stupid him in in revenge assist with windows. Lightsaber Sky Samuel. Jackson has said for years he goes. I didn't officially dice life so and it's true every single Jeddah. He's died. onscreen turned into a force ghost. So he's going to be back. Mandatory in it was fully. I would have this movie. I could have ignored. Every single stupid thing is if when they were all being electrocuted by. I am an all this crazy should happen. He's like surprise motherfucker and he shows up and throws his same route them and that's how he killed him. I'm waiting thirty five fucking years to do that. Motherfucker motherfucking let's go go go go go. And they'll get into plane and fly away. I would have been so happy so happy. If Jackson this is the guy who beat them and he would have been so happy. I'll tell you that I I would have paid double edition price to see this just to watch all the super fans ends faces freeze and then like break her malfunction chosen one. It was made the one I mean they're rated. PG They can get away with one. Swear just surprise motherfucker and just see a lightsaber fly through the air. Like a javelin and the purple one hits them. You don't even see Samuel Jackson. You just Steve Years Voice and you see the lightsaber. And that's how they win. And you're like Holy Shit. Mace Windu did survive thirty five beers or even if he didn't have his first goes to it. Because Iota could send lightning for this guy. Okay even better. Yeah he goes surprise at its force I goes goes behind. Them puts his hand and puts a full Nelson. So you can't get them now kid or his hand does that whole thing like the reverse flash rush. When he's about to like shout somebody her chest like he does it? The to Bel- turns the camera and says well you should use your life support now. What you didn't think black guys this could be forced goes either warner brothers closing? That's all folks. Yeah that's that that I would've. I would have been in the theater laughing hysterically and then I would have been like. Oh God J.J. Abrams is brilliant. He just told us with a two hour movie. And then you have jour-jour are pulled down his cloak and Save Mustafa. KLEZMER is over. It's true Samuel Jackson dodger hold his legs and holds his legs down they starting kicking him and stop them. Our jail out of nowhere. Surprised surprised motherfucker puts them in a full Nelson. John I said get his legs name. Transfers is essence jour-jour. They I raised and they're stomping on him. Get him get him get him good. Just no idea who these two guys are helping her out. I knew something Georgia are lakes man. Okay and with that. I think we've ramped up the rise of skywalker. I think we have our episode title. Hold his legs Dr. It's a prize surprise. His legs jar Jar Jar Jar Abrahams. That works hold his legs Dr Jar Abrahams. Oh so how can they find. People reach you on the interwebs. Well you can find me on twitter at at Birdman Dot. I'm almost always around. Consume you a friend request on facebook. Flash Birdman died so yeah or on Instagram Birdman Dot as well and for me. 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Marvel Has a Five-Year Plan After Avengers: Endgame - Movie Talk

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Marvel Has a Five-Year Plan After Avengers: Endgame - Movie Talk

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Good to be back deal. Hasn't changed at all. How were your Vegas adventures? I'm surprised you survived. Well, thank you first of all to to Steve to frosty. My boss for bailing me out of jail one night. Appreciate it. Stay stan. That's right. What's not in the? But. Yeah. No cinema. Com. Was great. We all we also that awesome joker trailer that I love I saw a lot of other cool stuff like Queen and slim guy Ritchie's next movie, the gentleman, I want you to talk about the statement you made earlier in the office about the movies. You saw the full move. Is you saw the four best movies? I've seen all year. It was one wild rose late night blinded by the light and longshot they should all of those at cinema Khan. And yet they were the best movies. I saw you haven't shoulder. Long-shot yet. But I can watch for the other three in wild rose is one that I hope does not fly too low under the radar because I want everybody to see Jesse Buckley's performance in that movie. It's it's probably the best performance have seen here. She's she really is great as much as I want to talk about all that we have some big stories to get into today in the first one on our list here is this five year post endgame plan that marvel has so other than Spiderman far from home. We don't really have any concrete details as far as what's coming after endgame. But during an interview with Aegean Kevin Feige confirmed that there is a flesh out five year plan. But basically, we shouldn't expect any announcements on this plan until after far from home comes out, and he even said that announcing their presence at comic con this year would be an endgame spoiler. So there's that fi also said that the studio is going to keep making movies, but don't count on anything involving the recently acquired X men or. Tastic for yet Feigen basically reiterated that it was go time right now after the deal after the merger was done. So there's that as well. And he also said that any hypothetical reboots of the fantastic four or of X men are probably a few years away. And he specifically said probably probably only because as you've heard me say before until it was all done, we literally couldn't do anything. So essentially it sort of day one. But during that time, we have built and fleshed out our five year plan of where we're heading the first few years of which will be announcing as I said relatively soon after these next two movies. All right, coy, let's start with the five year plan thing. I and specifically when do you think we're going to hear about this five year plan is it is he basically teeing-up Comecon? I've been Comecon is when we get moving on the five year plan. I think that Sony is Spiderman the only reason we have any far from home information is because of Sony. That's not marvel marvel wanted to keep this close to the chest. It's tricky because you're sharing right? The character. Stay do anything. I would rather not know even about spider, man. I wish I could have that suspension this belief, which is what led to all my enter dimensional theories and all that craziness. But I really think that it's a great move to non announce anything to not have anything moving to actually enjoy. I want in game to be a movie I don't want it to be a part of the series. I wanted to end the series. I want to have it be. I want to walk out of that theater changed. I want to be concluded. I don't wanna be thinking about X men. Let me thinking about fantastic four and this allows that to happen. I want closure. I want to mourn these heroes. We're gonna lose. I want to actually have an experience. So I think that it's also not a coincidence that Spiderman was talks Sony for a long time. And then all of a sudden and ant man, you get your first name drop Spiderman I guarantee in that five year plan there will be groundwork laid for X men invested four just because those characters won't be in them. Doesn't mean they're not laying groundwork for them ant man allows you to t- up for Spiderman, and it was very quick Spiderman was in the universe. I think we're going to get a certain name drops. I think there's also going to be a certain morning flavor to the movies that wouldn't allow you to build up to new things. And I think. If you need to have that set aside. So it's not fair to assume. Fantastic four x men, but you also have to remember Kevin Vike he thinks in tenure trunks this guy. Probably has some reserved ideas for things that he couldn't touch. I don't think we're going to have to wait a full five years it might be three or four if they're shooting black widow. Now, we're not going to see that until twenty twenty one anyway movies take time to make. So people are freaking out that it's five years, but it's five years until everything is actually team up movie and five years. But I think we're gonna have a lot of things on the way to their weight. So Jeff where do you stand with the x men fantastic? Four thing. Are we going to have to wait a really long time? Could it be part of this five year plan as far as we won't see it until the very end of it? Or is this something that could be announced at comic. And we'll see it sooner rather than later. I don't expect any announcements at Comecon, particularly come on, maybe a D Twenty-three. But no, I think it's way too early on the X men front these films. Don't I mean, they don't even have filmmakers. It's light song anybody's been announced to take over the X men now that it's. At Disney or takeover fantastic. Four. Yeah. I would expect Feigen marvel to play out everything that they have planned for the next few years. And then you get into X men and fantastic four at the end of that five year plan. Yes. Very good point that it could not be sandiego Comecon at all because d twenty three twenty nineteen is from August twenty third to August twenty fifth. So could Disney be ditching as overall, here's what I want them to ditches, the M C, you okay? Make a standalone marvel movie not everything has to be part of the universe. Can we just get some stories outside of this larger universe that just have nothing to do with continuity or cannon just like tell me good story? I guess my question to that would be would be why I feel like I wind up thinking the exact same thing when the continuity somewhere isn't as strong, and the fact of the matter is he has done a very good job, constructing a strong continuity that I want to know more about that SP. This is twenty two movies right then game. And apparently it's continuing with Spiderman, right? And then we're talking about sequels for Black Panther, potentially. Doctor strange. I'd like to see like a character who screams out for an obvious sequel like doctor strange Batory killed off at the end of end game. And there is no doctor strange to. That's it. That's a last. You're seeing a Benedict Cumberbatch is doctor strange. They'd never do it with Black Panther. But maybe Dr straight. I'm not saying it will definitely happen with doctor strange by any means. But I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled something like that. If we're busy sitting here speculating about someone who's going to get another installed an awfully quiet on that. See even something with the guardians. Like if the guardians that were assuming is coming back for guardians three just truly bit the dust in the next movie, and then never returned and dreams guns been involved long enough that could happen. And there's also the movies that were getting in the future. It's not a coincidence that they're so out there, and then close to home Spiderman is the most grounded superhero in the universe and their universe. And then the attorneys are the furthest out there. They can have a. Decimation of these characters, and we wouldn't know about what movies or Greenland going forward, which is why they should announce a five year plan. I don't want a big. I don't wanna big elk presentation where they spell it. The next five years. I don't want that I want to enjoy these movies as they come. And I don't want everything to be spelled out for me. Like, I already know about Shanxi, I already know about Black Panther too. You know about Spiderman far from home. But that's kind of like, I don't want more. I want to appreciate. So I am agreeing to appoint what you're saying. I want to appreciate the movies as they come. I don't mind the shared universe aspect, but I don't want to know the next five years of my life now. Well, actually, it's well worth pointing out that in this, quote, he said that they do have a flesh out five year plan. But we're only going to get the first few years of that in whatever announcement that they're planning. So they're not gonna go super crazy with saying, oh, you're gonna get a million movies. And then not make do every student by the way, every studio has a five year plan. Like, I don't understand. I operate two years in the future. Okay. I do my job. I'm out there making calls. I'm movies that you won't see for two years. So I have a two year plan. Okay. Marvel has the five year plan every. Radio like, that's just how development works. That's how long these things take time. I just don't understand why this is news that of course, of course, every single studio every franchise out there has a five year plan. The reason that it's news at this table right now is because we're about to get the big finish of a significant amount of content. But if the finish that's what I'm saying. Is that is had a significant impact on this industry? A very strong continuity, in my opinion. And yes, it's going to be the end of a generation in the MC you and that actually leads me to my next question for you coy so going into this five year plan, we're fit we're basically closing out an era with vendors and game. You don't want to just continue the same stuff over and over and Disney. Plus, we're scarlet witch. We're getting falcon we're getting winter soldier getting LOKI where Kenny characters go away, we're bringing back those characters in a completely different format a format that we haven't seen a format that we haven't gotten a taste of it all for all. We. It'll be a different tone. It'll be a different style. Who knows what story they're gonna tell strain Marc spirit, all the different tones and styles. It is it is true. They are experimenting more we got ninety action with captain marvel. We get something different with guardians. We got something different with Black Panther. Do his movies are different very exact same. I think there. I think there are a very effective use of enough similarities that they feel like they're part of the same universe. And they can all be connected, but they have their own style and flair, and I think that marvel has been embracing that even more so than they have ever in the past couple of years by hiring directors who have something significant to say and some serious style to lay over these movies. I think that wrote brand loyalty so much so that they can take bigger chances. And I think that the five years think your question was about like where things go in those five games as far as their current IP's. We know about I think that leading into Netflix and not doing more moves these characters as a way to keep the brand alive. But also take bigger chances. I've I've said before I think Shanxi is going to feel like nothing else we've seen before. I think we're gonna see a Spiderman is the most like day player on the ground character that there's a reason that avengers the next thing after that has him. I think we lose ironman foreign cap. I think the vendors as we know what are completely gone. So it will feel like he's referred to this as the Infinity saga. That is the most comic book thing, Kevin you could have said it'd be like this is the end it's an omnibus you can pick up this omnibus of twenty two movies. And that's the end. So I think black widow could even be a prequel. I think there's there's a lot of things that they can do that's going to be a different timeline. I don't I love the movies out in three weeks. And we have no idea what we're dealing with going forward. And I think that is the strength of the brand that no matter what the move you're gonna make one hundred dollars. I think no matter what they can literally just like paint a stick figure and say marvel and I'd be like, okay. And there's a lot of people like that. So I think it's a strength of brand thing that they should keep doing. But I want to know as little as possible. I'm right there with you. We don't really know that much. That's why we have all those wonderful speculation videos up on the channel right now. And we were speculating recently about cooed delivers the deathblow to nose. And I wish we taped that after I saw the last trailer. Because I would have added Thorpe to my answer. I said captain America and iron men into Enda with the three of them. Yes. When I saw that shot the first thing, I said was I'm wrong. And that's when they die. Yeah. The shot up and walking I was gonna say that to all right. We're moving on to another big story and other big franchise here. And actually another franchise that we're going to be covering very heavily in the next couple of days because Star Wars celebration is coming up. We will be on the ground covering the Mandal orient Star Wars at nine you name it so jumping into this story here. We basically just have some quotes from Jj Abrams and details how he got involved in the project. So we know that episode nine was originally set to be co written and directed by Collins Rivaro, but then in the wake of the book of Henry he backed out and said he left over creative differences, then that's when Jj Abrams returned. But in a new interview with fast company Abrahams said that he almost turned it down. He said that he was working on other things. But then Kathleen Kennedy called and said, would you really seriously consider coming aboard? And once that started it all happened pretty quickly. The whole thing was a crazy leap of faith. He also revealed that he did toss out the previous script that Vara was working on. He's specifically said to have no script and to have a release date and have it be essentially a two year window when you're saying to yourself you've got two years from the decision to do it to release and you have literally nothing. You don't have the story. You don't have the cast. You don't have the designers the sets. There was a crew. And there were things that will be worked on for the version that preceded hours, but this was starting over and then just to top it all off here. He also teased what we can expect from episode nine, and he does seem pretty happy with it. He said without jinxing anything or sounding more confident than I deserve to be. I feel like we're in a place where we might have something incredibly special. So I feel relief being home. And I feel gratitude that I got to do it and more than anything. I'm excited about what I think we might have Jeff to kick this off here. Does it surprise you what so ever that they throughout Trevan? Script and started fresh mill. I mean JJ. He does force awakens they say here, you get to tell the beginning of this new trilogy. Then they take it away from him. Really? And give it to Ryan Johnson. And then they're like, wait. We need you to come back and fix it. Really? Like, of course, the guy jumps at the chance to do that. And to finish telling the story the way that he started out to tell it. And if that means ret conning, raise parents from whatever Ryan had tried to set up, you know, then he's going to do that. But I'm not surprised at all that he throughout Collins scripts. I'm curious about your choice of words, when you say take it away from him because I can't recall off the top of my head right now any quotes about specifically why JJ stepped away after episode seven. But is I mean, do you see it as having taken eight away from him and give it to Ron Johnson do Jj Abrams to wreck the movie in between two? He direct a movie in between force awakens and episode nine. Not that I can remember thinking when actually the top of my head. I mean because he wasn't planning to. The last Jedi. There was friction there with him and Kathleen Kennedy, and that's why it ultimately took Kathleen Kennedy being a bigger person to invite him back into the fold knowing that if she wants to fix this franchise, or at least get an ending that will satisfy people you gotta go back to JJ the quote here does mention that he was working on something else when she came back to him. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the same timeline in the same project. So I don't know, I guess that could be the case coy, how are you feeling about these quotes? And specifically how high he already kind of praises episode nine. I've only worried because the two years is a quick turnaround. That's an incredible feat for CGI and prep and everything else. But the good news is like you said he had a plan like he began seven with how I imagine he planned and nine so putting together a movie into your seems insane. But if you already had outlined if he was already fairly established the where he wanted to go. But now, I can't imagine seven and nine with. What was in the middle? Like that must have been completely different. What he had imagine. I personally think that you shouldn't have the bloodline be everything for jet. I personally I'm of the of the mind of like, I like the idea of the raise parents were nobody's I'm of that world. And I respect both sides of the Star Wars fandom, and it's a very powerful phantom. So I fear talking about it. But it's it's really tricky. Because that seems so counter to what the force awakens was. So I can't imagine what movie that is going to be somehow the culmination of both force awakens last. I looks like with tears of prep. Yeah. I'm in the decision where I really loved what he did with the force awakens. But I'm also a fan of the risks that lasts jet. I took. So the thought of having to almost that early combine the two, but I guess in a way. Yeah. In episode nine I don't quite know what to picture, but I would be very very surprised if we would start when episode nine comes out if we're freely using the term ret con in terms of him taking certain plot points that Ryan Johnson introduced and completely are racing them. I think he's gonna find a way to organically, and naturally, and justifiably basically take those step further where they land in a place that satisfy as many Star Wars fans as possible without actually saying well now, you can wipe your hands clean of the last Jedi. I think it's still going to be in play. And I think whatever JJ does with up nine is gonna make people go back to lashed out. I maybe appreciate it more. I feel accused I hope that's the case so clever. He's gonna find ways to use seeds planted in eight that might not have actually been seeds. I feel like he's going to really be creative with this bit of namedrop. I don't mean it's b but I've worked Jj Abrams on a movie, and there is no director. That's as good a technical director as a personal hands on actor director that I've worked for he's so his brain works on such a level that he's doing so many things at once. And he's able to tell stories in a frame that the dialogues just in addition to like, you already know so much just from this. So if he needs if there's someone that's going to combine seven and eight is Jj Abrams. If there's someone that's gonna make the people happy that love the force awakens and the last Jedi. He loves this mythology. He bleeds Star Wars. There's this guy wants this to work. So if you want an ending that's going to satisfy the Skywalker saga. It's JJ. So if anyone else had said this, quote is I'd be worried but Jj Abrams saying the quote of I made this work in two years, and I'm really proud of it. He's a Star Wars fan. So if he's proud of it I'm excited for I'm feeling pretty confident right now. I'm just curious to see what happens on Friday when we get to that panel. What they actually give us. Go for it. I was just like what do we expect from directors when they're asked these kinds of questions, of course, he's going to say, yeah, I'm excited about it. Yeah. I think it's special. Yeah. I'm proud of it like, it's just it's the same non answer that everything everything that comes out of Kevin fi ease mouth. None of the none of these people are interesting in terms of quotes. Kevin JJ doesn't matter. They never say anything. Interesting JJ had the choice to not say what he said with the last quote, he didn't have to go as far to say. I don't want to jinx anything. But repeatedly say I'm very confident in what we had seems like a dangerous move where you know. I know a good fluff co when I read it where someone's like, yeah. Everyone was great. It was a great experience. That's that's a whole bunch of BS. I read that last quote, and he repeated himself in that point so many times, and it seemed genuine to me that on buying it all we all want to believe, I didn't know that. We do. I didn't know that thrown out calling. I assumed. But I for me the quote was about the fact that he had two years. I hadn't put together the math my. Ahead of holy crap. Twenty four months to make a Star Wars movie. So to me, the quote was more about the making diamond out of the pressure of that. So I was interested person. Yeah. I'm I'm interested to and you know, what? Yeah. Sometimes I want to believe, and maybe that doesn't work out for me in the end. But I'm kind of glad that I want to believe, and I don't not wanna believe it makes any sense, especially when it comes to franchises that I've invested years of my life. And yeah, like these movies aren't made to there's a certain thing they need to capture they need to be entertaining. But they also need to appeal to fans, and they also need to do things differently. And that's why I really like the last Java as it did so much differently than a lot of people were mad at. But if they didn't like that they had the force awakens. So for me, this is an opportunity to Ps every kind of Star Wars fan, and I don't know like this event, we're finding out next week if that's been possible. Yeah. Fingers crossed. I'm hoping for title reveal and a, you know, not just a teaser trailer. But a significant amount of footage at the very least. We'll see what happens, and we were reported to you all right here on the CLYDE or video YouTube channel and also on collider dot com as well. Now is the time of. A show where I get to remind you that we take your live Twitter questions. Don't forget short. Sweet something different have a little fun with it. And use the hashtag collider movie talk will pick some real soon. All right story. Number three. Here is a Netflix update. So in a move to further bolster net flicks is reputation as an ally for theatrical distribution, Netflix is now in early talks to purchase the legendary Egyptian theater on Hollywood Boulevard. We got this news from deadline, and they're reporting that Netflix is working to acquire the location from American cinema teak, and they're nonprofit organization, and they use that theater to exhibit independent classic and foreign films as well as special events as well and QNA's things like that this deal would find Netflix programming its own screenings on weekday night, while the cinema teak would continue to run it screenings, lectures and occasional festivals on weekends. So Jeff, what do you make of this news is this one good? For Netflix and also too good for cinema teak. Yeah. I think it's a great deal for everybody. I think this was an inevitability the way that Netflix spot the billboard company last year, you know, to take over all the billboards around, Los Angeles. Now, they have like a home theater so to speak that isn't its own screening room, which has pretty limited space. If you've been inside the net flicks screening room, I think that this works out for everybody. The American cinematheque has been losing losing money were operating as a nonprofit where you know, they're struggling the stair. The stair to stay relevant into survive. You know, it's tough out there for an hour house thing that they've only shows old movies. So I think that they could use Netflix sort of coming in and taking their financial load off their shoulders. They're still going to be able to program all those old movies on the weekends. And all the stuff that people are going to Egyptian theatre for now that will still take place on the weekends. But yeah, Netflix wants to hold press screenings premiers events that kind of stuff at the addiction. I think it makes tons of sense. It does seem like the best of both worlds. And I was really encouraged because I think this is the way the dot com article put it when I first started reading, I believe it was the deadline piece. I started to think, oh, no, they're basically steamrolling little independent entity that has a couple of festivals like beyond fest that I really enjoy. And now they're not going to be here because this major corporation is taking over and the thought of them using it for their own good. But also keeping that organization up and running and keeping some of those special events that we really don't get enough of here. Even in. L A that is really encouraging one just because it stays alive and thriving. But to I don't know, I think it does kind of speak to speaks to Netflix his intentions, and maybe their respect for the industry and smaller films and really kind of what I praise them for on a regular basis, which is take bigger risks with different kinds of movies in different filmmakers that other companies haven't really done as much lately Koi. What do you make of this news? And also do think this is only the start are they going to acquire more theaters or basically make this a flagship? So they've been playing with Netflix for a while. Now, like velvet buzzsaws premier was there, which the Netflix film, and I think it's been a slow roll into testing the waters, and I think it's been going. Well, and I love this theater. Like, I have so much history at the gypsy. Unlike the Egyptians, one of my go-to is where I bring friends with from out of town. They had this amazing Sam Rockwell QNA where they showed box of moonlight and another of his films like eight years ago. And it was one of the first times I felt like LA still had a film scene. It was one of my I like L A film moments. And it was just the whole room was all alive with that independent film flavor. And I was so happy. To be there. So the addiction personally invested. But also all these theaters around town you downtown there's so many dead theaters. You see all across downtown, Los Angeles. There are dozens of just empty shells of theaters. And it's so nice to know that at least two to three days a week. We will get to have the programming. If that means Netflix picks up the other one, but we also a lot of people don't talk about I pick. I pick cinemas which is a Dinan theater in Westwood and Pasadena has a deal with Netflix where they screen there. Netflix movies for that week that comes out to give them the Oscar contention and all that stuff. So I think that this has been in the process for years, and I think that this is the beginning of their escalation of it. I think they they get their Oscar accreditation through pick. And now, they have their own theater, and then it grows and grows. And I think this'll be that when we look back like, oh, remember they started that with the option. This is just the beginning. I like the I going to do the same thing in New York too. I mean, they find have to again for for the academy. Qualifications. Got a screen at least in one theater in L A county and New York Cy imagine that they will buy New York venue, just to do for the same reason to have a headquarters where people can come to the Netflix theater, and if they wanna pay money to see Netflix movies on the big screen whenever the big releases this week that that is what they'll do. They'll throw a bench their premieres parties, etc. And that's kind of nice to see these movies. In theaters. Like, we talked the buzzsaw where I got so much that movie, and I think because of the ethical experience like I haven't really watched out of fear of relaunching it because when I watched it and the ruse odds that was cacophonous laughter like the actual experience of buzzsaw at the premier was. So lively that I loved the movie, and I feel like I'm in the minority in that. But the theatrical experience made that so of Netflix can pivot their movies that need that audience. I would so much rather than have a home plus could stranger things in the big screen. I'm very happy those things that would never you know, what I mean. I mean, that's the other thing. I I think I would. Pay to see some of their TV screen as well. That is what they are going to do with that. I'm almost love stranger things three. I'm all those type of heartbeat. It's perfect. Yeah. All right. Good things on the horizon, then for net flicks next door here is an interesting one. I still can't believe her saying this paramount is reportedly gearing up for a prequel to Greece titled summer loving the studio atop John August. Depend the script. No word yet on exactly how he plans to bring this story to screen. Oh boy. The only toss question I could come up with for this is what do you guys think is a worse idea a grease prequel or the cats movie that we're getting at least cats might be like drug times, like at least, it might be like, you know, walking an acid trip with like, we're great actors playing cats like I don't think Greece leaving be fun on acid like just like there's a different cats is so weird at might work. Whereas this is just I picture mutt. I picture trial of ball run around the grease jacket like I don't want. I don't want. I don't want either a big grease kid. Growing up where I love the first movie and I loved I loved the second one to quite a bit. But I kept thinking with this one because it was probably because I read Vinnie's piece before I read the source article here, and it's just Vinnie brings up certain jokes and certain things that happen in Greece. That are just so insanely dated. And now, I mean that doesn't stop me from still loving it to this day. But it's going to be interesting to see how they change the tone of like that kind of relationship, I guess on the big screen. Tell me more more Perry. Have it to you? Well, I think this is a bad idea. But having seen the cats presentation at cinema gun on my entrance cats. Cats are going to be. Cats. I what is the story of cats people will even seen the cats musical can't even tell me what the story of GATS is. They all have weird names that seems completely ridiculous. I couldn't Stanley MS. And that's like a great story the story of lay MS and that movie was atrocious. So I think cats is going to be an abomination. Well, I you just have to describe in your own words, what it was like watching that behind the scenes feature at because just reading the descriptions online. I'm almost like an jealous that I didn't get the cringe with everybody. I mean, I'm just like this guy. Tom Hoover like you can do anything. Really, right. He won an Oscar for the king's speech Caen. Like, why do you want to keep doing these musicals that aren't even like interesting musicals guys and dolls or west side story? Why is universal? I know that they have like this rich musical history. But I just don't know like this before wicked. You know, like they've been developing wicked for years, I can't get wicked off the ground. What is going on? It's going on with wicked. When are we going right cast the role they could have wicked for next December? Casting the summer something. I don't know. I think it is becoming a little bit more active. But yet cats just looks. After all this. We all ended up on the same page. It's a magical journey equal. All right. We got some plugs for you guys right now tomorrow, we're very busy here. Collider. Of course, as always you have collider live in the morning, a new episode acquired or movie talk right here for PM as well. And oh, there's a show called heroes tomorrow coy. What are you guys talking about right there in the middle of Trine, live and move? You talk. We've got collateral heroes. We're talking about we finally get our ship Zam spoiler full reviews. Coming out. We talk about that joker trailer which dropped moments after last week's taping of heroes. Why have sat for six days on probably my favorite superhero trailer in years? It is a tremendous trailers we talked about that it is a collateral heroes episode three hundreds we celebrate our three hundred and it's our venom issue. So it's it's a big ups owed, and there's so much going on the world to comic film. So check out tomorrow's up. So and that's not it. I think you got something else cook in there you to kill her first episode of your comic book shopping with Zach Levi of corn. And that's only the. Beginning of it who's who's up next. So we we've decided only to bring in a leads that are six foot four on to make sure that I look properly statute and a David harbour is joining us for next week's on Tuesday week from today, we are dropping our second episode of comic book shopping. I got the hang out with hell boy with hopper with the guy from newsroom, I frigging love David harbour. He is he is so passionate about how boy he is so passionate about acting. He is so invested in the characters he plays, and he's just the rats like the guy is hopper. And I can't wait to share it with you guys. And we talked all sorts of stuff we talked a little bit of black widow. We talked a lot of hell boy, check it out. I'm really proud of this. I can't wait to watch him. I interview from the hell boy junket with David harbour just went up and what a freaking delights amazing. He's a really really cool, dude. I was glad I got to talk to him five minutes charming, and he stays like in this very jubilant space, but he doesn't have a bubbly energy. So as jubilant says very reserved, and it's a very interesting. He's fascinating. I love David harbour. He's and all I want to know is will there be? Cake for the three hundred episode of heroes because if so outcome will be. It'll be committed to cake. There's still some bagels on the tape. Jeff the bagels while you're welcome back. No, indulge. I didn't see cream cheese. We have some Twitter questions to get to you right now. And I wanted to kick off with this this one question here for Matthew Spencer, because it's something we didn't have time to cover on today's show. He's asking what did you think of the new Addams family movie trailer? I thought the designs were weird, but but we're appropriate for this odd family, the quirky music from Ardy days Serwa homes match. So well with the classic theme at the beginning of the trailer. Did you guys get a chance to watch us one? I've seen still don't Walter yet. But I liked the character designs. I like the cartoonist you're going to keep remaking Addams family. Why not go for it? Keep going bigger and Oscar Isaac is perfect. I've seen a thousand movie trailers in the last week. And that's the one I did not see. I did get around to watching it. I thought I thought it was cute. I've always been a big fan of the Addams family. And I think I will pretty much never say no to another rendition of it. And I kinda liked the quirky designs. They worked really well. And I don't know just kind of reuniting with those characters makes me feel like I'm stepping back into that world. And that is the weird world I wanna existence. So I'm all for it. All right next question here. This is from Louis e della penna who's asking in honor of Zam, what would your secret word to transform into a superhero bay. I feel like we've covered that one Lewis. Did you ask that before? I wasn't here. That's great. I feel like we've discussed that. Apparently, you guys have been. So we're safe. We're a word to turn into superhero. Did you see Shas, and Jeff and did you like it was? Okay. All right. I was curious. It's fine. It's fine. I would yell out on a PEO because it is very comedy. It's very hard to say. So accidentally like be like walking through the streets meal like out amount of the all like, it's a word. You have to intentionally say, and it kind of fits the whole being a superhero like visual comedy. Yeah. Onomatopoeia I would yell. I feel like I'm remembering the conversation because whoever was sitting in your seat told me to say hold onto your butts. Just very appropriate except I was actually thinking about this last time. I saw Shas an you need a word or phrase with fewer syllables because like what if you were in, you know, facing off against feeling and you had to say it really quick and change the onomatopoeia it'd be struggling to. Why would just snap? Okay. But what would that like time to your powers? I don't know. But it would it would make the transition happen really quick. But what if they're watching west side story to get into it? And then you're just like. Who knows what might happen? It'd be really entertaining for whoever's watching west side story with me, I'm going to steal from Jerry Seinfeld. And my word would be Newman. Here's another naming thing. This question came from Neil Varma. He's asking a hail of fun. Little question say, you get your own movie studio. What would you name it? I got this one. I would take the name from my summer camp color war team. And it would be called breakthrough pictures breakthrough pictures breakthrough is a very long word. That's only two syllables. Okay. I had a breakthrough breakthrough pictures. Mm-hmm. As a kid. I wanted to name my studio picturesque productions. But I realized that sounds even more do as an adult. I would go with living the dream because whenever whenever you're talking about it, you're making movies, right? You're living the dream. So you have accomplished everything you're living the dream. You see in the thing. You're watching a movie you're living the dream like sitting down theater is a religious experience watching a movie at home religious experience. So every time that pops up, hopefully, the quality is good. If it's my studio. Living the dream living the dream LTD. Ooh. All boom if a offend yet. Someone just took the dream team. Now at first I was trying to think of some way to incorporate dewey's name into it. Because I want you to be my logo. But then it started to think realistically, and when we were making child eight or we thought about starting our own company, and it was going to be because there's a black stork element. It was going to be black stork productions, and it was going to have a really cool logo that we've designed. But yeah, I liked it. And also, you know at taps into the little like sinister Harvey ABS in may. So it seemed like this. This black stork carrying a little bundle with letters. And then it just drops it in the letter spill out, and it spells out black store like that. I can picture the art should go into just making logos. Yeah. Strong. That's fantastic. Well, we're set we could leave now. Good by starting a new job. Gus. All right. Not before we answer another question here, and actually Jeff this is a perfect question for you. Brian night is asking what is the dispute between the WG and ata about also how will it impact the film industry? Can you give a little one on one? To discuss this on on an upcoming episode. Man. The WGN wants to if not end packaging entirely. They just there's a real conflict of interest because the agencies these days are now owned by like these gigantic hedge funds, and so they have demanding greater profits and greater profit margins. And it just doesn't pay to represent writers and directors and actors these days like, that's why these companies have had to diversify and you see w me getting into UFC and all these other like revenue streams and packaging is one of those. And if you were to take packaging away from a lot of these agencies, those agencies would be out of business within a period of months and packaging is putting the project together talent together. And it's like, I don't really understand. Why like packaging is a decades old practice, but I don't know I feel like Representative have been negotiating for themselves. Like, even whether forget whether something is in their clients. Best interests are not they're they're always trying to get themselves on as producer managers trying to get themselves on his producers that kind of stuff agents are saying, you know, if we're not even gonna get a package, and it's not it's not even. My time to put my client, my writer Klein on this TV show, whatever it is. And so I think I'm definitely like on the pro WGN side like something has to happen. I I realized there needs to be a compromise. You can't just get rid of packaging at all. Because then agencies are going to go out of business. And you can't just I don't see all these writers firing their Asians. Because I mean, you have to have someone who's cable can secure work for you. And you can't just empower the managers to do it because it's against state laws. But yeah, something definitely needs to change because it is a broken system. And the writers are the ones getting screwed like when I sit down with agents. The agents are the ones driving these nice cars in these nice fancy clothes with nice, watches and all this stuff. The writers. Just don't live like that would be the agents worked for the writers. They should be getting ten percent of what the writers get like, I know raiders. I don't have to pay commission on packages, but it's a very complicated situation. And I hope that they figured out and figure it out soon because it really could change the entire industry if the F those fees were to go away, or, you know, be re dispersed elsewhere, thanks for the basics here. Hopefully, we can dig into that a little deeper sooner. But we have a really oppressing Twitter question right now. And it's again for you, Jeff this comes from. I can't say it without laughing. I was going to say at blabbity, blah, blah, blah. I've completely ruined the jokes. It's a lie right now. Jeff, what are you hearing about the Bill and Ted's movie? I haven't heard anything on terms of cast. But I do have this fun little tidbit for you guys. I do hear that they're looking for two teenage girls to play the daughters of Bill and Ted's fathers of daughters who are friends themselves in the movie, and in addition to that, I think that the new Rufus character who obviously won't be named Rufus, but she sort of fits that that part in the script. Sorry, it's going to be a woman. It's not going to be guy. Oh, I feel like because of book smart. Unlike just cast beanie Feldstein and Caitlyn beaver in those roles, it'd be kinda cool. Like it heard that they're terrific. I don't know if the if the girls will be kind of like bimbos, like like, their fathers were you know, if you of like, it'd be funny if Bill and Ted had really smart. Yeah. Like stoic. Just like you guys are morons like. I don't know. I'm definitely curious who they ended up getting for those roles, but in particular, this this female Rufus so to speak. I like like Aubrey plaza playing Kennedy's is daughter. She's like whip smart and not like bogus at all. But she's like super concentrated a little old. I could see her actually being the female Rufus into that. I would like that as well. All right. I think we have time for one more question, and we're to go back to some Marvelon this. This is from land screen who's asking if Sony doesn't extend its agreement with Disney to work together on Spiderman do you think far from home it takes place before Infinity war? That question has been bandied around for eight hundred reasons for the last two years not two years because the video working about last year, but everyone's been theorizing that for a very long time. I don't think there's a version of this where the continuity isn't a little messy. I don't think there's a version of this where we don't have there's going to be obviously the endgame ending will tie into far from home. It's just we've already had some issues with like homecoming with the timeline and all that stuff like having to studios share character is hard. I don't know how much Sony. He's gonna wanna play ball Spiderman after this because of how well did. Because of what how quick they're moving ahead with their own universe. I could see Spiderman far from home being the end of that shared agreement that could mean a certain thing for how they handle Spiderman and end game. I think that I don't know. I'm curious. Yeah. What do you? What do you think? Jeff is this deal going to come to an end sometimes in on one hand, I think it should because it's like why is why Sony licensing out its biggest cow character to Disney like Disney doesn't need it. And I think venom did prove that that Sony's marvel movies can sort of stand on their own. But on the other hand, it's like, why would you get rid of that association with marvel I think it makes the Spiderman movies more of a must seek type event because they are sort of parallel to the zoo or part of the MCI if you will. So I don't know if they renew it that it's a tough question. It's better versus well spotted verse was really separate and it worked, and it was really fascinating. And did well, and I really like I've never been more on the fence about it. 'cause I I love Spiderman in the marvel universe. But I also I think it can live that does spare me and have a future after this avengers movie. You know, like like, I don't know if he went into these other movies at they're that they're doing going forward. I don't know that he does fit. I don't know. The reason why I've kind of really dove into this. You know, endgame ends in a place where there's different timelines because that can easily explain away. Why we don't have Tom. Holland Spiderman anymore new dimension. Goes through advance. I'm starting to think that way, I'm starting to think that's how they do it. And maybe even we wind up with with almost like more than one MC you happen parallel to each other. The Tom Holland and Mary. Really really is Tom Holland and far from home will not be the Tom Holland. We lost Infinity orcas townhall and Infinity ward is actually dead. I think Spiderman far from that's what I was trying to avoid saying. But I think Spiderman far from home is the beginning of a different universe of Spiderman. I think it's happening after endgame for reason, I think we meet a new Spiderman at engaged, and I think that's gonna go by head hurts listening, and I really hope that they just leave all that and multi verse crap in the Spiderman movie animated Spiderman movie because it's crap time. We'll tell three weeks wasn't a fan three weeks. You weren't a fan of spider verse I wasn't a fan of the multi verse. I don't need them live a discussion for another what everyone's entitled to their opinion. We have some fun banter going on here. But you know, what if this isn't your thing in another university is in another universe. I'm a really nice guy. Jeff we see when you are on the right? Right. All right guys here adding here. Jeff coy. Thank you guys so much for joining me today. Adamant booth another round of applause to you because you are awesome guys. Thank you so much for watching. This episode is always please don't forget to like and share this video tell everybody, you know, about the podcast as well. We're going to be back tomorrow four pm t live for a brand new episode, featuring them marvel than Star Wars. With. Five our teen with caffeine from green tea leaves. It's delicious energizing incomes in three amazing flavors with zero sugar and four calories. It fits your life with its compact size important ability. It goes where you go to the campsite, the hiking trail the beach without weighing you down by our team caffeine from green tea, leaps. Release your natural side from the makers of five hour energy. For more information. Visit five hour energy dot com. Drp immigration. I'm Ed Donahue with an AP news minute. President Trump says he's not interested in reinstating the separation of migrant families at the border with Mexico. But once you don't have it. That's why you see many more people coming that coming like, it's a fix, Nick. Because let's go to Disneyland. He says without the separation practice. More people are headed to the border. We time border patrol says it set a new monthly record for Ampara henches of families at the southern border. The. The president was asked about changes at the department of homeland security reporter referred to it as cleaning house. I never said I'm cleaning house. I don't know who came up with that. Especially with a lot of great people over there. 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Worlds Finest Geeks Podcast 09/27/2019

World's Finest Geeks Podcast

27:13 min | 1 year ago

Worlds Finest Geeks Podcast 09/27/2019

"Welcome to another episode of the world's finest Geeks podcast we are you geeks then you can find me on twitter at Vince the GIG can sitting to my right this Geek writer Rob I am at Geek writer rob on twitter and of course you could always find this at phineas geeks on twitter world find verbiage able to cross universe. We're GONNA get a Tom Holland we're already we're already used to seeing this audiences have grown accustomed to it they loved into the spider she unanimous last four podcasts probably Spiderman is backing them see you absolutely yeah this is crazy news scrolling through twitter and I'm like Oh look Sony and so that story arc was dope or whatever but like into the spite averse introduced this generation into universes so it's not going to be so weird day so we've seen it in movies yeah it was we've seen it multi verses in the flash in those CW shows you know so people are used to it have the MCI the Marvel Cinematic Universe so whatever way they're going to use it will it be madame web I don't know but however they're going to introduce the spider verse he a lot to go over we have some breaking news today we do looks like we've been talking about it for like every week and likes last four weeks or so twitter headlined but then we were both like drilling into the story I don't know if it's the same one but then we were just like you know at the same time it's Disney. CBS movie and in talking about a sinister six for like thirty years so that would be your Sony Spiderman Cinematic Universe well over here we or yard is like three or four episodes or something like that and you know back then it took a long like you was telling me took longer to make episode sometimes you would get episodes he says Spiderman just has to be the only person who cross over different universes I'm paraphrasing right and we know that three or four days ago they announced when and then it's also going to include one other marble studios movie which we don't know what it is what it is and there are rumors that supposedly marble we'll be using billions of their choice yeah they'll be using and that's great because Spiderman has fantastic villains absolutely so I know that included me by the way I was cracking wise about Madame web but I didn't know much about the character I was out of the man cartoon in the ninety s because I was a little bit older than that there are other universes now because people are already often what we're looking at here is possibly we already know that there was the Bene- movie there's GonNa be a venom to in a more non marvel movies that's it and we found something else out just recently this week which I'm really he was lying Madame web movie they announced Madame Web movie I think it was yesterday actually man that was the laughing stock of twitter right so but but I think it's a point the end Sony collaborate it's like all right cool so they get to they get to do at least a trilogy now this deal encompasses the next spiderman movie which will be the third one because Disney just announced that Kevin by will actually be crossing into the Star Wars universe and producing or developing we don't really know exactly what one star wars film along with Kathleen Kennedy of course and I think that that I think that might have been what back Sony and so the corner who cares right a bunch of billionaires are GonNa make more billions of dollars basically Disney is going to get twenty five percent and retain all merchandising rights in so another thing too that's important is in this deal or at least we have a quote from Mister Kevin by himself right and he it's now we got some of the details for the Spiderman movie I don't know if anybody really cares but yeah these are financials that don't have anything to do with us guys oh we got introduced in the nineties despite over so I guess tell us about Madame Web real quick 'cause we're not saying that about is going to be on Disney exchanged for that one film in that and one more will move up here it's now I think it's funny we said at the beginning of this whole thing but we do know that we're getting spiderman movie and we're GonNa have a Kevin Feige Star wars movie yeah that's great so apparently Kevin Gaming Servers go watch the cartoon that is true now what I will say is that that's how we got introduced by divers she introduces Peter Parker he's gone through some shade as a whole said talks a bit it's happening happening you guys here's pretty adamant for me said that the reason was because Kevin Feige was too busy to direct wh- basically what that means is we might get Tom Holland Spiderman inside of a movie harassed out of another villain movie and that's I mean that's pretty awesome yeah just just negotiations that's built into public right so don't take anything that they say with a grain of salt but maybe last week or two weeks ago Sony exact pretty or Star Wars Fan than me I'm loving the idea of seeing Kevin Foggy going in and producing a I can't think of in the last fifteen years there's a more successful producer in any film studio yeah I don't care who you talking about you. Jj did there Spider Man Spider man movie whatever it's going to be an you're just like Oh yeah whatever who cares you know just Tony it's not Marlboro Yeah I was not excited at all that was just reading the so you know he's he's he just enjoys what he is doing clearly and he knows what he's doing you know we're grateful to get I'm your they had to accept it they had to accept whatever deal Disney counter offered on there there was a bunch of back we don't know the details situations he's overextending himself they think they're marble is going to suffer because of it I highly doubt that man the man been doing look what he did infinity will and game he got all those people together they've been wells nobody nobody's touching him right now that's not to say that Kathleen Kennedy is not amazing in her own right she has a resume for the ages probably one of the best of all times right can you know be touring many different ways and be just fine with it but I don't think there's any problem with Kevin fight a lot of people are mad about the star wars movie they is a Lotta News today before you go into that I just want to point out that Lucasfilm's is the reason why bringing on Kevin is because they're they're planning on pursuing have a whole new space we're GONNA get into I think he's definitely going to help her as far as like how to all the different names and how to put things together Domeisen civil war yeah I mean scheduling genius to say that he's GonNa take away from Marvel and manage just suck on like thirteen shows entirely new era in star wars right there that's it they're done without the wrecks guy walkers is the Benito right so we casino who knows who knows but I feel like they already said they're not gonNA recast the character but if they do they did it's the same studio with him right yeah as she was asleep she don't need no help from Kevin but why now bring to extraordinary producers so we're going to star wars film together and that's a quote Oh company they did recast solo right we have all been eldridge or whatever his name is there so why not have him just play every single he could do air force one as far as series go she has a parade this is this is going to be for the OBI Wan Kanobi series so she's going to be perfect for this which will supposedly yes she does she got e Roger Rabbit like and the and the list goes on just about anything Steven Spielberg has ever worked on. She's been right better right yeah they do as a lose day we found out a recently that brandon routh who played superman in the two thousand six superman returns movie over an hour ago we have got Debra Chou who directed what was it breaks Chow Chow Chow sorry I had no idea but you know she's going to be we will be July sixteenth twenty twenty one and then we also got the Batman in twenty twenty one there's GonNa be a lot of stuff in two thousand twenty suicide squad and twenty twenty one suicide squad he'll be playing the kingdom come version of Superman he'll be one of three superman in this today they debuted a picture of him you can go world's finest geeks Dot Com and we have that picture I think it's time to reboot the character but you know maybe they'll do like Harrison Ford like in working with the technology that they use in the movies obviously we're joking you guys and you were going to say there's other there's other breaking news that's actually just came out about I don't know or hey space which lost in space is probably fucking boss the new one bananas right man so you know she's as far as uh of Lucasfilm's is going to be children of the blood and bone children of blood and bone with and he's GonNa have Milwaukee and they're gonna be doing that with box I'm down for another Indiana Jones the appears routinely and supergirl But we're also getting we found out Tom Willing who portrayed Clark Kent in the Smallville TV series anyone seems like it's going to be popping guys absolutely definitely going to be lit all right so out some pretty interesting stuff coming out of DC today to there was some pretty interesting stuff Superman is looking I'm I'm really GonNa reminds me of like Lois and clogged as Dean Cain in addition in addition to yeah there you go and Christopher Reeve you're on our website along with the Little Synopsis Of what Routh had to say whatnot but it is the kingdom come superman it looks it looks like a great costume to me Karenna she did better call saw she did a couple episodes of American gosh she did the man in the High Castle Jessica Jones which ran for ten seasons reprising his role in crisis on infinite earths has one of the three superman and he'll have a suit on they're also going to be working on other Lucasfilm properties right we got they're going to be working on Indiana Jones right and then of course the developing and this is like a cult Lee be dropping in twenty twenty one at some point right I think it's important to know at did you say that earlier this vitamin is GonNa be twenty twenty one yeah the new spider man all about them you know this looks like it's going to be a good crossover the crossovers have always been like pretty tight and we're doing crisis uninfected hers well just keep getting better there you go you can play a young he can play young Air Force One president young `support he can just completely make his career about being young Arizona Ford we pledge but I don't I don't I don't know if he's going to have the sue and I think he's probably not because they they announced he's playing Clark Kent Okay they'd never mentioned Superman but okay who knows we do not know yet right and also Erica durant's he plays Lois Lane will be back as that series lowest lane fermented is with you if I was me personally I switch out the black for the yellow of course sure but it definitely looks classic we got the Red Underwear back we got the classic blue a- actually out throughout the week and this is all once again and I think I brought this up like everyone of podcasts but it's big news with the CW Arrow shows no matter how you feel uh-huh somebody down for it and keeping in line with star words we actually. I'm glad that we did the podcast on a Friday this week because today Ascoli Doug Blue stuff we got the classic red none of that Doc Red Star so I I'm really liking the way that this brand new roof roof us we're GONNA have the air over Superman as well yes we have what three superman right now three supermum oh and didn't want they say one of the lex Luther the DC we also learned this week some the Batman News for Matt Reeves Batman Movie Commissioner Gordon has allegedly been cast it looks like all those all of those classic Superman in addition to that we learned that we know that there's three superman it we already knew that tyler heckling was going to be back as the superman because I don't like the character but just because I think that that's a noble way for him to go out after eighteen thousand now remember now they are going out at the a seasons but that doesn't mean that they're done one of the episodes one of the ten episodes of season ten of Arrow is I'm sorry season eight of the ten episodes of Arrow is going to be a back door pilot and right there's going to be it was also announced this week that there's going to be in a female that Arrow spin off that will be coming out of it's going to be he's going to be played by Jeffrey Wright who I know is going to be playing the voice of the watcher for at any of you who think that sounds familiar episode title birds of Prey and Arrow season one and it's and it's you know Canary Black Canary is one of the birds of prey and we're getting to them in this show so as dumb just Gimme the huntress article and I'm pretty sure she's the one that can stop the vertebrae so how does that even make sense yeah she puts the team together from from when she still paralyzed because she wants and we don't know what his role is I think they're still negotiating with him because one of them wants to play it's between like the Penguin and the riddler supposedly there's a pray it pretty much is I mean we had the movie coming out they already snuffed birds of prey because they were going to do a birds of prey movie we got our pregnancies in one we got there was oh banking that Ali dies yeah yeah I think so I think he'll make a sacrifice ironman style that was good so I hope that's the way it ends back Jon Cryer is going to reprise his from supergirl and he was actually pretty good in that role which surprised me so that's going to be I'm looking for in order to do the right thing which is essentially wrong right I mean that sounds like accounting to me and then we also learned that Jonah Hill has been cast for the Batman I think he's perfect for the role as Commissioner Gordon he has that what was you saying earlier Gravitas the grab right so he's got a little bit of seriousness in him he could play that just means that it's going to really introduce them as being set off as their own team I believe all four of female show right all female whatever I don't care but this is just a bootlegger it's GonNa be long Halloween Halloween is fire we're going to have plenty of anybody has not read along Halloween go and read along in West an amazing character he plays a robot who doesn't always a robot okay dope so see that torn apart cop who wants to do the right thing but is is stuck in a corrupt environmental yes the rely on a vigilante This was not your typical Rambo man this was this was taken me home alone meets John Rambo to fight remotely this is how does it no it's it's what they turn landfill the city into all four Arrow spin off what mad girls who shoot arrows right but if we're GONNA the median he does have some range he can play other things besides a ha ha funny fat guy right hasn't even been fat and like ten years five years whatever it's been by the way we're going to be trying to do a movie that we coordinate every week I was not able to see a movie starting next week we'll do it starting next week all the marvel twenty twenty four of the marvel shows three movies I believe two more in addition we've got a lot of things happen and twenty twenty and there's a lot of talk about Jonah Hill Oh he's a comedian you guys was in Wolf of Wall Street he was in Wolf of Wall Street which has to mean that there's multiple villains in the Batman there's no way they're going to rewrite the whole script just because Jonah Hill doesn't WanNa play whoever the villainous yeah no I mean it looks like through I think that's enough oh we're GONNA get into titans a little bit later but before we do I just want to let you guys know I saw Rambo last blood Rambo last blood and I went into the theater thinking okay let's do another Rambo movie right we have what five Rambo movies they're all the fucking same yeah right we got the whole first half of the movie and is just about Mr John Rambo living on his ranch and right off of the board of America he's like a crazy like apocalypse one of those people who prepare for the end of the world peppers so he has the entire underground system set up whatever said sad story where the John Rambo comes in that's the whole first half of the movie now John Rambo fucking tearjerker bitch dies man she died against Bush but we have John Rambo and his his daughter are his niece wants to know harrow father or some shit she has a friend of Mexico that that is not your typical movie typical movies happy ending right note this was not so girl dies John Rambo goes across the board of course he says a Ah did you see him on Lusa he's kind of Bang Yeah he looks he looks a little more cheese day I should say which was fantastic he was in war dogs he believes in money is money ball I've not seen where dogs by fantastic moneyball as well so he's not just the let's get an oracle announcing is going to have a record correct as far as we know we we have not been told that we were GONNA give be we're going to have week well we haven't reviewed episode three yet because we switch from Tuesday to Friday so we're going to go into the third episode of Titan Season Two alouine it is a great great comic not for what for what it's worth I wouldn't mind seeing June help the matter but I'd had it will be though all right or I might see it in the theaters I have that unlimited pass from Regal so why not you so we have watching titans and we have been reviewing an episode nope you're wrong you got John Rambo would especially at of skills and he's GonNa come whip some fucking ass right he comes to get his niece turns out she dies on the way home drug overdose with neither anyway look episode three pretty straightforward doctor light is the villain still the OH teen titans reunite we're his little Mexican niece and I you know me I'm a I'm a conspiracy theorist Excuse for John Rambo Kill me and then we will review titans season two episode for now you guys already know let just like spoiled Rambo we're GonNa Spoiled Ah you may ask bulked up you saw the pictures Juna Hilas no Tom Welling these days I am just kidding Tom Welling have that and we might as well call them we just call us Betas made right we just report the news to you I might try the first episode but that just doesn't sound like my cup of tea keeping on he instead he comes back when his niece's Day buries her says that whole shit up with mad booby-traps home loan shit goes to the other side of the Border Bates end of the episode and that's where we kind of left off because now we're going to go into episode for which was titled Aqua Lab let's talk about season or go back to them escora right so and she's struggling with that decision and she's on her way back the deal and people are getting killed left and right and that's the end of the movie all right I mean I'll I'll probably John Rambo movie pretty dope story I was not expecting a story what about getting back together

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Robocop Returns Taps Little Monsters Abe Forsythe to Direct - Movie Talk

Collider Movie Talk

53:36 min | 1 year ago

Robocop Returns Taps Little Monsters Abe Forsythe to Direct - Movie Talk

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I with this story of robocop returns. This is fascinating. We were just talking off camera and choose your story. Yes it does finally a little robocup action action and we get it was announced by MGM that Abe foresight is being tapped to direct this film T- HR reported it first. He's he's coming off his recent film little monsters and of course before that down under this time robocop. It's getting the Halloween Terminator Dark Fate treatment. Which essentially essentially means? They're picking up right after the original film. The Paul Hogan Nineteen eighty-seven film and the less said about robocup. Three the best original screenwriters. Ed Newmar Dr. Michael minor are producing the film along with Alice. Entertainments Richard Suckle. They wrote the original version of the sequel scripts Crooner Justin Rhodes. Who just did Terminator Dark Fate? So this is an inch. There's a lot to talk about here. That's very very interesting. Just wanted to give you a little background on that and who's involved but Haley. I go to you first on this A hearing all these hearing all these people involved on the heels of the Charlie's angels flop on the heels of the terminal fate not doing so well on the heels of all these reboot remakes not really capturing the public's imagination does this seem like a wise decision. I the director. Yes but the idea of doing it and making it a direct sequel to the nineteen eighty-seven original Well it didn't work for Terminator in terms of money but did work very well for Halloween. So no I'm on the same page. When wrote up the news? Yesterday I was very much. It's like what a choice right now after this year's box office because they're like they're like nine different Ip titles that just crash and burn. I it's it's a definitely a rec- time for it. However if they think if they have a really strong take on it could work because themes of sort of technology and identity Eddie and law are so much in the conversation right now and then there's a lot to work with their they do think Abe forsythe is really interesting Unexpected but wealth well fitting choice particularly if you've seen down under which has Very mean sense of humor as does robocop right the right one little monsters have a race element to it as well racial element to it as well or did those films have a racial. I thought I'd rather understood okay. So he has that in his toolbox as a theme at least one of his movies. So you talk about a police certainly really nowadays this idea of Rachel racial profiling or people kneeling during football games to try to protest. What they see as police injustice justice this once again because people? If you remember the nineteen eighty-seven Robocop film certainly was topical for what was done. This idea of a police state this idea of people being told what what to do being controlled but that was a big fear in the eighties. I remember I was there And so to see it kind of kind of circling back is very interesting and do you agree that foresight. It's like this is the right person to tackle this Alicia. Do you want to see these kinds of issues. I really like him as a director. I it'll be interesting to me. I think it will be interesting to see because both of his movies are very like dark. kind of black comedies. And while the original robocop definitely had really dark comedic elements and it wouldn't have been classified as a comedy and so it'll be interesting to see if he can kind of channel his natural instinct to want to lean into the comedy and dial that back a little bit to have kind of that that black humor in it but being able to actually kinda layer that with nuance and saying something. Because I that's the thing I worry about is a lot of these movies is A. They don't really have all the commentary that they did and the originals and so I'm I'm hoping this isn't just kind of a straight action SCI FI movie like I hope there's a little bit more depth to it but I really like him as a director and I think it's a really intriguing choice. I'm just wondering if you you can kind of fight. His what seems to be natural tendencies to lean all the way into the humor and kind of use that when he needs to as a tool rather than as the kind of overall brushed the saints with if that makes sense. You mentioned the Halloween situation. They were successful ten million dollars. Whatever the production budget was it was very low which so it kind of led to them making a large profit over also Do you hire a director from a smaller. Independent vibe live so that you keep that budget low seeing the mistakes that Terminator Dark Fate made to a degree. The mistakes Charlie's angels main terms of the budget. Do you see them going with a smaller budget here to do robot converts. I hope so I really do. I mean we. I think it was a few movie toxic. Oh that was on. We were talking about this and Perry and I really were like like stop doing your budget. So inflated 'cause you're just not gonNA succeed that way unless you're Disney basically right now or one of universal's to top franchises is is I very much hope so. And there's nothing inherent in the robocop design. That demands a profoundly large budget. It's it's a you you know. The sort of the genius of Robbo teens design is the simplicity of it. And that's why it endures. I mean look at something. Like upgrade upgrade and I loved upgrade. I feel like that. How is a I feel like? It's gaining more appreciation now and it kind of has a feel of almost like a cult movie but I wish more people had seen that movie because it's so good good and that to me was very much like this is what you can do like. There's still room for stories like this here and you don't have to do it on a huge budget. You can make a really good movie on a small small budget and have it be really solid. Yeah it'll be interesting because the two thousand fourteen remake from Jose. Padilla that one hundred million dollar budget for that movie. It made two hundred and fourteen two hundred forty two million dollars were so you look at a wall. Does that warrant then going back to a larger budget I would hesitate lies. You said Halio design. It does not necessarily need to lend itself to this huge technological thing. In fact the original wasn't a huge technological thing it was just this side of a B. Movie Robocop Robo cop so it's like okay. Well what we. Why would you go back and spend one hundred million dollars? I'm in that place now. Twenty tops tops and that includes talent so so let's let's swim swing back around to that Peter Weller. Obviously the original robocop Joachim in in the in the remake. Do if we're doing a direct sequel already bringing Peter Weller back and aging. What are we doing here or studying now right exactly? So He's been a cost this. Yeah or you can interesting. That's an interesting interesting. I think that would be following the Halloween and dark fate track that right. SET THE PRECEDENT WITH I. Guess I I was thinking about this a lot yesterday who I would wanna see under there and I think it's interesting to bring back Peter Weller now. I don't know if it has the same impact as bringing back back you know. Jamie Lee Curtis or Linda Hamilton. Just maybe my nature of the face or the fact that so much of his face is covered. It's quite the same impact I it. It point being I was like I wanna see Michael Shannon play robocop. That's where it landed so I could see that absolutely. Oh man now just thinking about Michael Shannon. I do do that all the time. Dang now I'm now I'm Kinda stuck on him. It's interesting because I think you could put a number of actors in here. I I honestly have to say. I don't really have a specific civic choice for this because again it it's the he's covered the whole time. And so you kind of need somebody that can just kind of Portray that kind of you know kind of STOIC vibe but deliver those kind of deadpan liners I don't know but now I have Michael Shannon. What does this interesting? I'm thinking like Pedro. Pascal and the man to Lorenzo like you don't really it's hard to connect with him so far because he's as you've done you never see his face and I feel like it's a little bit like that with with robocop because you never see the is never really see the face. So it's it's interesting. They might casper that might be using to cast a black actor here. If you're going to go head on into this idea of police possible injustice or racial profiling. If you're on explore that as a team you know black and blue kind of did that recently Taylor film with got her name escapes. Dombi Harris. Tares I think is what was she was the lead in that her confronting this idea of being a cop trying exposed corruption and confronting it being a black hop in the whole situation. So if you have that maybe someone like I dunno Chadwick Bozeman Michael B Jordan. Those are possibilities. You can play with their with because then you have the inherent nature of black hopping turn into robocop him confronting the other cops confronting criminal crime that adds a lot of complexity depth. I think his studio might be scared to do that. Button if you're willing to spend ten twenty million and it's not a bad gamble to take if you WANNA really go and capture the subtle if we're going that route sterling K.. Brown that's a great choice. Absolutely would would you be interesting. Because he's so warm bubbly person that I think it would be. I'd be interested to see him but having seen waves I think that Yeah okay. I'm going to go with that choice. I mean they just seem you know. There's nothing to confirm that. That's the approach that they'll take but it does seem team sort of the natural destination when you think about the themes and the climate of today's environmental does seem. They would probably take surf. The watchmen approach so to speak. which leads me to Abdul Mateen second? Listen Yeah yeah absolutely. Yeah and if you lean into the humor you're you're not making for like hey this is what this is about. It's more like there. We're looking at society making jokes at societies expense but also subtly exploring what's going on underneath. We're hoping for some reason was able to do that in the eighties. which shocks the hell out of me when you look back at it? Now because dismisses films like crazy so you start analyzing his films. You're like well I didn't I know you're working on that level. Jesus okay well. We'll see what happens as it goes along Neil Blom was supposed to do one but he he walked away from it. There was issues about you know. MGM Wanting to go forward with this him. I WANNA go forward as quickly so Do you think do you think this was. They were just waiting for the had to go forward and wanted to do it. You do you think you're absolutely right. When he walked the way I mean it does seem like it what it was like three months ago? He said they gotta go. And now they're going so that tracks and I you know Neil just can't seem to get the franchise he wants also seems to have a very specific like he's one of those directors and filmmakers and and I respect them for this that has whether it works not he has a very distinctive vision and he doesn't want to compromise and I think that if if they'd asked him in any way to compromise or and direction action he didn't want to go then. I think it's probably better that he walked away. I'm not sure if that's what happened. I'm just saying that It might be a little bit easier to take a filmmaker that doesn't have as much experience under his belt and kind of shape. It a little bit. Here's a monkey wrench Or not among you mentioned rather. Here's something before we move on. What if it's female robocop? Who would you cast at that point now? You said Washington. I'm just thinking of Virginia. I'm so so bad people's. She's unbelievably unbelievably good on Pooran any role honestly or Jean Smart for my gym. Smart Love has lasted tested for decades Who that's hard for me to think of mill robocop the the the both of the male versions came to me pretty quickly coming now win? Oh Oh interesting okay all right all right interesting just watching her for years on agents of shield. I've fallen off of that. She's just she can really bring a level of like she has a deadpan sense of humor linked delivery and she's really she's great you actually. She's one of those actors who actually believe when she throws a punch and I think that's kind of important in an action movie. I kinda get tired of seeing action films in which you don't really believe that the actor could hold their our own and I feel like she could so yeah a lot of Cuda ways. Yeah Yea Shirley's Darren terrifying. I would love that. She would scare the hell out of you love. Yeah just having entire movie of just a just a whole just squadron of just robocops just multiple over a because. Yeah and the dreamcast. Anybody I love it. I got two choices woodland Christy Nice and kind of on the back end depending on what happens. Louis and Gina Carano. Gene could be interesting. I haven't seen the rest of the episode demand laureate honestly the first two so I don't know how she is in that. She's made a number of comments that she feels like she's he's become better actress having worked with Fabbro. And there's certainly precedent for certain actors kind of discovering how well they can be later on in their in their process and she certainly had that. MMA background that could be interesting thing that could come into play in other words. I would love eventually. Lily do it as well. Torres would be another one. Oh yes very nice. I like that Gina Kronos fight CNN haywire. I think about like all the time. I haven't seen that movie in probably six years or something and I still the thing about. How old is it? Am I losing track of my but I think about that fighting a lot so she definitely has the physical prowess for a role that doesn't even like she said she feels. She's grown was an actress but like the role doesn't demand a tremendous around a range. The demands tremendous delivery physicality. Yeah Yeah and so. Certainly we saw that when Peter Weller does take the mask off in the original and is oh processing the loss of his wife and his child and his lights so all right. Let's move on to our next story here. And this is Star Wars Kathleen Kennedy and again Eh. Well there've been some new Congress and she gave an interview to rolling stone where she talked a lot about the future of Star Wars. She answered some really thoroughly some of these questions about why some directors have left the property shows talked about how much he's enjoyed working with j.j Abrams much Abrahams. She was hoping J.J. Abrams could have done all three three installments where she sees fives film which he claims to be is a ways off and when we might see the next star wars movie but what I want to talk about is Kim masters article in and the about Catherine about this interview can message someone. I really really respect whose work I've read for quite some time. Even got the chance to interview. For one of my podcasts. The center files. We talked about broadcast news with her. She's incredible and so to see her break. This thing down. I think she brought a lot of interesting points about the future of Star Star. Wars about Bob Iger wanting to pick his own person to run this because remember This whole thing happened. Kathleen Kennedy was picked by George Lucas. I think and then The idea of being lined up to possibly run this thing we talked about this talked about. I send it to the guests here on the show today to talk about what. What's she points out here? First of all. Let's address this. The idea of Bob Eiger and Allen Horn wanting to make their own pick do you think there's something bubbling underneath the surface here that that is what's going on. I like an to like football and sports too but like when an owner comes in or new. GM comes and they want to select their coat their own coach. They they don't be handed. A coach Eiger was handicapping. Kennedy here do you think that this is something he wants to do. What do you think yes? No I feel like if things had been maybe a little bit less tumultuous. It wouldn't be as much of an issue. But I think that the way. Kathleen Kennedy kind of runs. Lucasfilm is very different than The way that they run Disney and and to a lesser extent marvel I think Kathleen Alan Kennedy not take anything away from her. I think she is one of Hollywood's best producers ever she is a phenomenal producer has been onboard for so many classic classic films But she's not really a risk taker and she's not really the kind of visionary that they need to fully kind of steer this entire studio not in the way Kevin if ideas and in recent years especially since the successive I'm Su- I feel like Horn and I have been a little bit more their kind of realizing that they have to kind of evolve and they have to take risks. And I don't really see that happening in Star Wars. That's kind of the biggest the problem I I love Star Wars. But that's one of the big problems I have right now is that they play it so safe because they're catering to that nostalgic fan base and it is hard to walk that line like don't get me wrong. It's very hard to learn when to kind of try something new and went to kind of re be true to the spirit of the original but but at this point I think that they need somebody who will maybe take a few more risks and kind of a little bit more in line with their kind of overall vision. I wonder under if that's kind of what's happening. Here is a kind of a clash of long-term plans master says that in Hershey speculate that in the article that could be fired. Yeah or could be Jon favreau. I hadn't really thought about to be honest with you until she frame did especially with the success of initially the success of Maine delorean day. Felony being involved here. You're could this be them grooming February because as many of you know and those who don't know Kevin Kennedy's extends up twenty twenty one and she's made it clear that they're they're we're having a lot of talks the next films not twenty twenty two which is a year after extension if she has a sign an extension. So do you think that's what's happening here. The she's like doing good brand saving saving dude good face-saving good pr here. And then they're going to move on and she senses. They're going to move on. Do you think to Fabbro or felonious. What do you think it's certainly possible of? All the idea favelas really peculiar. Not because I don't like his work. I'm very much a fan of most of his work and I think he's one of our best crowd-pleasing filmmakers bar not But just because his role in the industry and what he does is so very different from what Kevin Feige does and what Kathleen Kennedy does like. He is a filmmaker. He's an actor he writes. He does his netflix cooking. Shows like he's not solely focused on producing in the way that those two are. When you think of this sort of producers that take hold of a massive franchise enterprise whatever So I'm not sure I buy that just because I don't feel like now that he's not qualified but almost like that's not what he does necessarily I could see him being more of the Eh Weeden. And then the Russo brothers of what you know taking the home of the marvel for a for a time in passing the baton assery Kathleen Kennedy. When I you know reading this report there's a lot of it's all speculation? Essentially it's a speculative report it. We're all knew. Her contract was ending anywhere contract extension. So there's nothing in it that makes me go. Yep definitely happening. Okay I think of course Horst having those conversations as you do anytime. A contract is coming to an end especially again with such a massive franchise and company. But I I haven't i. I see what you mean about Nina to take chances but I also like the last year I just happened and I I do get why she might pull back on taking chances in the aftermath. I totally got that. I think I think the Star Wars Saga is kind of untouchable. But it's ending and so. I think you need to take chances like could you ever imagine we're doing a star wars like Tyke. What tyco edited with Ragnarok going full Zany comedy like I could not conceive of that in Star Wars as as it stands now I wouldn't mind seeing And this is really unconventional. But maybe that's what you need for Star Wars. I wouldn't mind seeing farrow and Dave Baloney Kinda tag team running Lucasville though because I think Dave Baloney He's he's truly the unsung hero of the star. Wars World Star. Wars fans know that most other fans don't on and he's he has a little bit more of the experience that you would need to kind of have because he's kind of the creative visionary for the the TV animated end of things which have been been amazing. So but as a as a protege of George Lucas do you think he can bring that change that you you're hoping to see he's he's doing the mandatory and he and five five road develop that so and that's very different than anything we've seen so I think there are going to be growing pains like one no matter what I think. This guy worker worker saga is done. It's coming to an end. And so I think that no matter what you're going to have some growing pains especially because you don't have like marvel the whole backlog alga comic books and yeah source material kind of fall back on their stuff to dip into but a lot of kind of doing from scratch so I think as okay master speculates about. She says like you know she. And she flat out says the Kathleen is not a creative producer forte right because she had spielberg kind of doing that. And Her and Frank Marshall Shepherding Film. So there's there is a possibility paying it. Because maybe that's why she was the perfect person for this transition in star wars out of Lucas into this Disney wrapping up the skywalker Saga and now that we have to create a bunch of new stuff is going back to the To a time period that we know no it's sat right after and before force awakens. So it's still kind of relative time period that we've been around with these films if we're going to start going nights have over public. We're going to start start going light years into the future and I don't know if Ryan Johnson's going to still do his trilogy. He's been kind of half in half out because some of the comments as well and with Benny Often Weiss being jettisoned. I I don't know where we go here and so it seems to make sense and I'm getting the Vai personally that there I think I think. And if she walks away at twenty twenty one has nothing to hang her head about. She can go look at these box. Office results yeah were there issues with some directors short but she said in rolling stone when asked asked about and you should definitely read this interview fantastic from her for every one of these movies is a particular hard nut to crack. There's no source material. We don't have comic books. We don't have eight hundred novels right. Eh Shot at game of thrones and stuff we don't have anything Lord of the rings we don't have anything other than passion storytellers. We'll get together and talk about what the next iteration might be. We go through a really normal development process that everybody else does. Does you start by talking to filmmakers rethink exhibit the sensibilities that you're looking for and I would argue that. The list is very small. People who really do have sensibilities about these kinds of movies and then the experiencing the ability really to handle how enormous job. These movies are so we try to be a stop was possibly can about making those choices. I would also argue that. Sometimes we'll get involved in the normal development process and then they realize Oh my God God. This is so much more than I ever imagined. So it's pretty common when you're working on movies you're not making choices and decisions that necessarily work out. Exactly the way you want from the Gecko so I thought this is a very reason logical response. Something the Internet sometime rejects sometimes and I really appreciated her giving a thorough response. 'cause I get it dismissed it and said hey some things just don't work out. Sometimes that's all but she went into it because I think she understands. This is the one thing that people wanna keep digging her about so why not give a very thorough answer about that. Seems very logical and intelligent. It's tough like I mean. Look like fans are going to say what they want to say and they're they have a right to but it's really she's right. It's really hard to find directors that can handle vehicles this size and this magnitude with this impact. you know you you have fancying. Like let the directors and filmmakers do what they want and sometimes it works. Sometimes you get like a todd. Phillips Joker or Janes Mangled like Logan But it at the same time look at how many movies that we've tried. That have been the keys to this giant franchises the kind of been handed to this new smaller indie director with not a whole lot of experience. Doing something this big And they just they couldn't handle it and the movie was mediocre or they cracked under pressure and they had to be replaced. So you know I think I think James Gone kind of started that trend when he got into the galaxy and he kind of set that precedent. Everybody thought well we'll just do that. And it's like but there are very few filmmakers homemakers like James Gone who can so easily stop from small Indian like horror to this huge space opera marvel movie And and and so I I do think that that fans and even you know us film critics and journalists sometimes need to give Katherine County a little bit more credit for just how hard hard her job has been since she stepped into that role. So I love that answer. I haven't read that interview yet but I think she really is honest there and she's right yes she was asked about how. How have you thought about how much longer you keep doing what you're doing right? She says I've really enjoyed this. I have to say it's been incredibly exciting. And just the fact that George Avenue this I felt a tremendous responsibility with stepping in and taking care of the franchises franchise and if there were going to be new movies to really pull team around this cared as much as he did what happens in the future and how long how much longer do this. I don't know yet. I'm looking it all of that. This is this is a very reasoned answer. It's been incredibly satisfying to reach this point. We've completed the saga and I think a really wonderful movie. It's going to feel very satisfying to the audience right. So that's what I'm focused on right now at the moment and what the future holds who knows it seems to me like she's being very circumspect about this well again I think I hate hate to be the most repetitive boring person but I think these are the kinds of things. People say when contract negotiations are happening contract is coming up At its end. That said it doesn't sound like she's trying to beat down the door and press to make it happen and I think from you know. I think it can be hard to imagine like. Why would you WANNA do anything other within star wars but if you look at her resume? It's such a varied in an expansive resume. Spent this like last chunk of her life doing one thing. Maybe she wants to do other things. Let's get back into like a war dramas or all her various sci fi films. There's a lot that it's it's a lot to ask one of the greatest producers features to just do one thing for this long and and maybe not expect them to want to do something else after a while. I think this goes to your point. You made earlier about fabric fabric. Oh has his irons in many fires and so to ask him to just kind of centralized on just star wars. And that's what you have to. You cannot go and do multiple things. WII focusing on storms. Because that's the first thing fans going to Ding you about the second. There's something wrong or you lose. A director of film comes out. That isn't good well because you were distracted doing doing your chefs show. Who Cares about shift? So this is star wars well. I'm just saying that people react to it would be like okay ship show. This is Star Wars. So yeah this makes it goes back to. I like like that idea that well. Maybe he's not so I go to leashes idea that maybe they worked together in Tandem Bologna in him. I still believe that they're just lining up. I was like I was just GonNa say because. And here's what's interesting too because so now fight. He's getting into it. Doing one movie right but and marvel fans are kind of like oh five is going to be with marble forever. Mike not true like finding himself said in a recent interview. He's like every couple of years. I think about doing something else suit and walking away. Fungi loves marvel but fans don't realize that funding has not just been with marvel since iron man he's been with marvel for everything for Ramey spider-man's films films for all the Fox x-men films for the fantastic four like all of it. He was a producer on all of those so he's been with Marvel of for what twenty. Yeah Sir Twenty five years and as somebody who has a huge marvel fan you know I don't know if I'd WANNA be with the same an creative. Ip for my entire life and so finding himself is said like. I don't know if I'm GONNA be staying with us and I absolutely see feige you stepping into that and kind of you know. I think there are enough people with marvel now maybe that they can not completely passed the torch but start phasing it out and start phasing him into star are worse. I wouldn't be surprised to see that either we can't be simplistic about this fans. Want to be like. Oh this happened this happened. There's so much going on behind the scenes and they we'll look to me the announcement Feigen doing a star. Wars film was a trial balloon to see how the fans reacted see. What their if they were excited about it? And you know Kathleen Kennedy of your says. That fight came to her and was like Oh came to them. It was like hey. I'd like to do a star wars movie but then she says it's ways off and I think her saying ways office her way of saying it will happen down the road but it's probably going to have when it takes over stones and makes it happened in his own way and I think that's her way of kind of it's coded language. I always try to look at the coded language these responses in these comments comments because this is the level that people play on when they're at this level in Hollywood or any business coded language is a huge part of it. So we'll see what happens. I personally Initially I had some issues with Kathleen and the stuff with the directors but as this has gone on. I've become more. I don't know I've had a more larger view of it and you have to have nothing but respect for what she was able to do because how many of you that are criticizing. Her could barely handle doing one movie. Let alone a crap ton of movies and books and TV shows and the animated series and the comic books. It's a lot and the video games. It's a lot to be under your control so I I think at the end of the day she'll have nothing to hang their head about when she walks away and I do believe she will walk away. Twenty twenty only one. She's done what she needs to do. And brought it back into the forefront into prominence and made a lot of money for Disney. All right let's move onto some cook. Promos here let's take a look at this first one from Ryan sad and pro wrestling sheets. 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That's verbally from me catnap. Suck the new leader of collateral. COUNCIL-OWNED EMMA five along with Ace Cabrera. They will be on a neck Later on today with a new episode of Collider Jet Council pretty faces. I haven't seen Ken small like that in twenty years. It's so incredible. Happy as to be leading the new Crew here into the future and the next phase of Collateral Council so watch that show later on today are move onto our last show item rather and this is the least favorite item. Because IT'S GOT TO DRACULA shot. AWW that shirt again Rock man's Dexter Fletcher. That's why the gentleman who directed it and also stepped into Bryan Singer on Bohemian rhapsody. By the Way Watch last twenty minutes after the other day still still one of us. Incredible Twenty minutes of film. I've ever seen if you enjoy that live aid wasn't live aid is that what is called. I think it was called live eight. I'm so old I forget sometimes. Anyway he's tackling a new challenge here into into the universal monsters. This is so brilliant of universal so subtle. Just go do this for a little while. Go to this. Lee went out with a visit Wang owners. It's very very chill as opposed to like Bam Bam. Tom Cruise Band Russell. Crowe this is more subtle approach to it and a brilliant approach with smaller budgets which could lead to bigger profits. It's all of this is brain yet. People involved in this way like doing a smaller type approach to film about larger topics. Certainly rock band is one of my favorite films from this past year. That people don't give enough love to so I'm excited to see Dexter Fletcher tackle. This but it is dracula movie but with a twist. It's through ren fields interpretation of course last so redfield was tom waits in the Film from Ford Coppola or even already Johnson in a love at first fight for those old enough to remember that film but re Ryan really from. Rick Morty is writing the script is based on original pitch from Kirkman of walking the walking dead fame. It's going to be produced by sky bound entertainment along with David Albert Brian. I and Sean I art redfield is a was an inmate in a lunatic. Asylum was thought to be suffering from DELUSIONS WAS ACTUALLY SERVANT OF DRACULA and rather than being a period piece. This is going to take place in present day elision. Are you excited about this. New Approach into the Story yes a thousand reasons. I have argued for years now when when universal said they wanted to get into the whole kind of extended Interconnected University like I said. Ah why are they doing these huge action movies. Make them horror. You can do an interconnector universe with horror movies. Horror is huge like make them small budget and then it was like it didn't work and then years later now. They're doing exactly what I have said. They should do for for ages and so I love that. They're doing this now. I also love that. They're they're I'm a sucker so my background is in lit and like I have a whole background in teaching literature and everything and I love when classical stories are taken in and kind of flipped around. And they're told from perspective of one of the supporting characters. I kinda really liked. That they're doing into Dracula from his. You know kind of his lackey and his minion It's really interesting. Team behind Dexter Fletcher for musicals. You Have Robert Kirkman whose best known for horror and especially the walking dead. And then you you have somebody from Rick and Morty. It's going to be a dark comedy musical horror I But it's a really great team so really interesting team and on I. I'm I'm with that with Leon els invisible man and with how they're going with these smaller kind of weird or quirkier. Filmmakers filmmakers I'm like I'm excited for it. I'm really intrigued to see what what they'll do with us. Ensure Sherlock Holmes three so right is that right so I mean he so he certainly he's. It does have an interest in other genres in other approaches to things. I find this to be a fast eighteen to put together. I don't know if it's rented a musical but I liked the idea coming horror picture show to give me the insects of it through his is what how we see Dracula his experience and if they're doing modern day than I wouldn't be surprised if there's an allusion to R-enfield in llanell's invisible man Do you like this approach. Extra searchers stepping into the situation like this excite you about retailing regular story again. Yes and so much. More than I mean the I love Dracula movies MHM. There're probably literally thousands of them. It's AN INSANE AMOUNT OF DRACULA MOVIES on the market. Not Aware of too many r-enfield movies so that that sounds way cooler to me and I just think that you know what especially what we've seen tried to do with Dracula over the last like twenty twenty years is not usually panned out very well So this is this is much more interesting to me and I also I do wonder what like what becomes comes. The role of the iconic character in that context is like how much is Dracula in the film how he portrayed as he's scarier from R-enfield perspective then from his own perspective. Those are all interesting factors to me and I I also I think probably everyone in our horror community was like make them horror movies. You fools correctly So I'm very very gratified to see that happening but I'm also excited that they've got a what's it called dark army or something with Paul Fig Directing and he's a very hard to pin down filmmaker who who walks through tone and genre often elegantly Spy as wonderful I'd guests of the heat and the heat is super underrated. Buddy cop comedy disagree five. It has one of my favorite jokes. Ten years the Albino joke when he says You Okay you look a little Pale. That joke broke me in half in the theater. Oh yeah when he said she said I had to run across the island's keep laughing to keep away from most of her delivery in that film is pretty exceptional. I'd like that all of his movie embrace different recognizable genres. I haven't seen last Christmas yet. It but again Christmas Ron calm. I loved it very familiar. Oh it was. You know what I'm in for Cheesy Ronco table was so good and simple favor which I really did not want to watch. I'm like no blake lively. No no no even though I loved her in a On the Shell is Great. I was like no no no and then I washed like damn. This was good. Gets me excited for her film January coming out as well that action for so. Yeah Paul a lot of different interesting. So these are I liked it. They're choosing these directors that have a strong fan base within the independent film community and some of the mainstream instrument film community. So you understand what you're getting when you're walking into this excites you. Don't you think I I do think he's sort of understand what you get in. But I also think that part of the appeal of all three filmmakers L. makers is their ability to subvert. What you think you're going to get from genre e even Lebron l like if you go back and watch sauce is probably not the movie you think? I think it is based on your memory of the franchise saw as a detective nor but he jumped it all up with some real nasty horse of insidious is is a very classic haunted house movie until it's not and it's also weirdly funny half the time so I just like that. All these filmmakers Dexter Fletcher. We don't have of as many films on his resume that aren't from an acting perspective but rocket man is a very inventive musical approach to a biopic And I think the same and maybe less inventive but very totally singular Eddie. The Eagle is a very interesting so they're all they all have access best to genre storytelling in a way that you do sort of know what you're going to get with them. They have a resume of proven films. But you never quite. You cannot quite predict what their read on the subject matter. We'll be I think the overall you take away as quality off with all three of them a lot of examples of quality in multiple genres so why not see what R-enfield film and also it can lead itself to an unreliable narrator if he's in the lunatic asylum it's an unruly or it could even touch on mental health issues which has been really prevalent nowadays in films and television. One of the most interesting books I've ever read in school. My my past life and academia was wide Sargasso Sea. So anybody who's read. Jane Eyre knows that she and the unmarried Mr Rochester spoilers. Mary's auster aster but he has his crazy wife locked up in the attic but wide Sargasso Sea by Jean. Reese is told old from her perspective. His wife's Antoinette's perspective before she even meets him. And so it Kinda shows how she descends into madness and how he he pushes her along into that just by neglect and Just not treating her well and so it's a really interesting Kinda spin on like. Oh this is the character. That was just Britain office crazy in the first in the original novel and now she's a lot of tell her story so I think that's a really interesting way of framing. And reframing old stories and so I'm I'm really fascinated to see because maybe you do something where yeah he has a very unreliable narrator or maybe he's completely sane but everybody. Nobody thinks he is uncertain. Yeah I like Rosa Turner dead is fantastic. New Way into Hamlet I would love. I think there's a there isn't a failure book toll from her perspective. I think or play so from irrespective him about the hamlets source of having other characters speak about a subject. You've already seen or or a play or book vote experience. I think it's a new interesting way to go into into a so. We'll see if it works the way Dexter Fletcher rental coming soon. We'll see what happens with that. I all of us to be very excited to see what they can do. This shot at universal for take for course correcting and and not like not like making a big deal. It's understood they made some mistakes even the dark universe course correct still thought they had some something good to salvage and they're doing it in an interesting in new way so oh I like it. I think my favorite thing about it is. There's no way zero percent anytime last week. Anyone was like what news do you think is going to break like nobody all right. Let's get into some live Jack Questions Dory and picked out some for us to answer before we wrap up here today. rix Morris goes and I don't know this is GONNA at work. I have a question. Do you want to see. Miranda back on the reboot of Lizzie. McGuire does anybody wasn't Z.. Maguire on this. WHY BRING MAG Lizzie? If you're not bringing back Miranda and they got Gordo Gordo already so make it happen guys. Yes firm answer. I'm so old for this conversation. RANDOMS her friend right. Yeah Funky Hairdos. It is yeah. Sure Bring Back Team Randa. I've never seen the show. I'm just happy Liz. Back Hillary Dot. She's the best all right. AMC SOMBERG is asking Phillips. came out via Indie wire and denied the HR report of meeting with America's well as any contracts in place for a sequel. I do think the t h article was source poorly or did they jump the gun talk. I don't think it was source poorly I mean it's T.. Hr and it's Tatyana so she tends not to like if it's her if it's Boris Kit like they tend to do their work. HR YEAH SO I. It's it's I think it's probably goes back to what Hailey was saying before as this is kind of you. Don't you're not going to talk about contract negotiations. We're in the middle of contract negotiations and so it's always the song dance like well. There've there've been talks but nothing concrete but blah blah blah. I mean we've seen immigration or talk on his his rounds about how you had to sit on obi-wan-kenobi coming back and being in talks the Disney for literally years so there are also people who just straight up lie you take away. T- will lie to you on the record interview and then like in the next interview. He'll be like oh I made that up. That's not true. Wow like they just 'cause they're like they're supposed to keep secret that's part tired of their job. Yeah yeah well. I always bristle at another outlet countering another outlet so firmly and so vehemently and like like deadline it did towards CHR. Our sources say it's flat false and I think it's dangerous thing to walk but you know these are the battles go on With outlets sometimes uh-huh This was from India. Wire Todd Phillip says I can honestly say to you. There was no meeting that ever happened on October. Seventh were Marston. First of all if you know me and my career that's not my style. I made made huge comedy at Warner Brothers in the hangover and I didn't become a comedy factory producer like Oh this is not movies. Bradley Cooper and I have a production Warner's I've been at warners for fourteen fifteen sixteen years. We have the two things in development at all times. Not for things. Like some people speculated. I'm not the kind of guy who goes marching. And saying I want these forty towels. Just don't have the energy when asked them when I pitched them joker. Okay wasn't it was. Let's do a whole label. They shut that down quickly and I get it. Who am I to walk in and start a label at a film studio but they said let's do this one so that kind of readjusting adjusting the commentary here so we'll also not a no no sounds like extremely long way to not say no Algebris like I'm not a comedy factory but he did make three hangover and I also get Smarter Warner Brothers live on things? I think their problem uh-huh for really longtime wasn't a product problem appear problem because everything leaked and so I think there are smarter to be like. We have no idea what you're talking about like we. We had those talks. It's never happened so I think that's smart. It's certainly possible Lucia. They'd like some sources leak this to teach our teacher around with it and other sources. That Warner Brothers sent out went to deadline and said hey this is not true. This did happen Blah Blah Blah to kind of counter the narrative and throw everything up in the air so that people don't know because they're still negotiating this stuff that's certainly certainly early Baas. We've seen that happen. Jay Scott Real goes which talents from know holly's Fargo Legion bones alumni. Should he tapped to appear in his star Trek Film. Haley has has mentioned. Jean Smart always always bring in jail smart for anything Also anyone from the cast of Legion would be a great. Aubrey Plaza is amazing. Dan Stevens is amazing. Jemaine Clement is amazing. All of them would be wonderful. Particularly I'd like to see jemaine claim. Play like a weird alien type creature yes respect to Fargo. Certainly did it in in men in black three. Patrick Patrick Wilson Fargo Season Two. He should also be and everything. Good everything Patrick. Wilson makes everything better. I also just I know I already mentioned such as your McGregor Fan like I just. I'm so glad we're here from the McGregor Sohn's like I really I'm trying to make that phrase happen. It's it's not happening so far doesn't flow quite as it does workshop at Keller there I always thinks she gets unfairly looped over in legion. I have been a fan of hers since Fargo Season to season two. She was in for because he's doing. They moved over into legion And I I enjoy her work very much another one that could jump from Fargo is Mary. Elizabeth winstead her be a part of the Star Trek Universe. That could be interesting. She doesn't get enough love as an actress. Those could be interesting choices. Honestly his shows have really good casting. They close your eyes and point. Point Point All right our last question here in a wrap up. Let's see it's Rick's a Morris what others eighty film or series. Would you want to see a reboot in the style. That's being pitched for robocop where they're picking up right after last. Fill or the first film now. The Breakfast Club. ooh Now wait a new breakfast club or them now. They're the parents and now it's you follow their kids dealing with all the stuff that modern kids are dealing with now with school shootings and with race relations and with you know social media and revenge porn and all of that so yeah do breakfast club but set it now and have them be the parents. Oh can you have a breakfast home where the nerds jocks the nerds of the popular kids at the schools. That's what I'm saying to me because kids still have. Massive problems are just very different than what it wasn't the eighties. So I think you can make a really interesting movie. That kind of shows you know kind of a classic like you did back in the Eighties Club. But then take that whole crew make them the parents and their the kids are the ones that get stuck in detention or somewhere together cancel culture thing as well that goes on Highschool Haley really interesting pick. My mind wasn't there at it all I was like What is a franchise that went way off track? But I didn't lead to anything so I'm just going to say Big trouble in little China. 'cause I wanna I you WANNA. Is that what they're doing. Though did I just like the rock is GonNa Redo it yes I don't I don't want that. No I WANNA see Kurt Russell Comeback Okay and and have an ridiculous adventure in. Yeah no I dare touch him. But that's my I wanna see weird and you can't make that movie the same way in two thousand nineteen so that would be an interesting challenge to wash them confront although. I do think that that film is actually a shockingly smart about race in the way that actually he's he's not the hero the side kick at all. I mean when he shoots out the ceiling about sue brilliant moment to go off to come around that movie. I resisted it for a very long time. Yup Yeah very much so we shook pillars. Here's two things for you. The Lost Boys. I'd love to see them do a loss boy sequel. They've been kicking around for so so long. Picking up from now you Jason Patric still around certainly a Kiefer Sutherland still around. There's a lot of people. Don't have Corey Feldman Corey Feldman involvement. Maybe but certainly it'd be fun to kind of pick up where they left there and Gremlins. Can you pick up right after the original gremlins. Ignore the new batch and just pick up from there I I think I know still around. I don't know if is Zachary. Forget the League guys name but he might be. I'm sure he's still kicking around. So that might be fun to explore thing. I've appeal get together and do another three amazing talk about the gremlins anyway. Well that's a lot of soda to talk for this lovely Thursday morning. Hope you're having a great day and we're helping you start out your day with this you know Unique brand of humor and intellectual conversation. I WanNa think these two amazing ladies for joining me say. Thank you Haley out Shanke for having me. 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The Mandalorian Deep Dive

Covert Nerd Podcast

57:46 min | 10 months ago

The Mandalorian Deep Dive

"Hello and welcome to the covert nerd. Podcast first of all. I want to do some out to some fans out there. Like I've done another episode. The first one is to Lee Baca at the art of Bachman facebook. He's a great guy in a fantastic artist and he's been on several episodes with me as well so go. Check him out at the art of Second is Doug at Grand COMECON. He's in charge of the COMECON at Grand Island again. Another great guy who loves the NERD COMMUNITY IN NERD CULTURE INCLUDE LINCOLN? The show notes on how you can get in touch with them if you would like to. Also I wanNA thank you the listener because this episode is the fiftieth episode. I appreciate the that you give me like. I do in every episode because I wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for my amazing listeners. So thank you for getting me to episode fifty and I hope we can go many more. I've met a lot of people on this journey. That are into some of the same things I I am into. And it's been great interacting with all of you like I always say. Thank you for taking the time out of your day to hear what I have to say and before we get started. I want to mention that in this episode when we recorded I was still badly a cold and I still I was. I was battling cold and I'm still battling a gold as you can probably hear but I do have a few. Coughing FITS IN THE EPISODE. So heads up. Sometimes when we schedule these recordings whether you're feeling great or not feeling great you still need to push through it. And that's what I did without further ado. Let's dive right in and nerd it up with Tim They we have our resident local star. Wars expert Tim from Rainbow. Comex to to discuss the man delorean TV series. And if you haven't paid attention. That is the Premier Stevie series right now on Disney. Plus and Tim I know is a huge star wars fan so I wanted to sit and pick his brain a little bit about the TV series heads up. There's going to be spoilers for the man. Delorean rise of skywalker and pretty much. Anything else that might be on the horizon that is out as far as star wars goes. So you've been warned. All righty do you. WanNa talk about first. Well let's take a look at I. Guess the mandatory series win. You got done watching it. I guess. How overall satisfied were you with it? Was it up and down for you like this episode was good. But this episode is kind of a Dud. What was your first impression as a whole? I think I'd dug the whole the whole series whole a few more times. I really dug it from beginning to end when it was down it was still great. Its Lowest Points. Were still pretty high points. Okay overall. I really dug it but I also have like a huge love of Westerns and Samurai movies. And this kind of felt like it kind of felt like a way for star wars to play in a new sandbox. It felt very reminiscent of the original trilogy while also managing to kind of have its identity. Yes okay segues. Into a good point I noticed right away on the series the simple things like the fades from scene to scene where the same little you'll circular fades or sideswipe fades from. Yeah from you hope. You cannot do that when I graduated from film school. One of one of the things they told us in film school is don't ever do that. It looks it looks amateur. It looks bad. Really for whatever reason star wars can do it and the reason they can do it is because they just kind of did it at a time when they were defining what. Star Wars is so when episode four came out or Star Wars or the original movie nineteen seventy seven when that came out already visually. It was so distinct. And so very specifically star wars that it can incorporate silly things like a like a cross dissolve across fade or a circle fade or whatever you WANNA call them It can do that because it is star wars and and if you saw that if you went to go watch the avengers and you see that really slow white from the right side of the screen to the left side of the screen to transition. It would look very out of place in Lynn very artificial because that's not part of cinema language but it is a part of Star Wars language and incorporating that into the mandatory and with something. I thought was incredibly smart. Yes you actually see that in things like Djeddai Fallen Order And a lot of video games as well. Okay we'll incorporate that in the cut scenes at just it's a it's an easy easy visual indicator that this is star wars I love that when I saw that on the very episode. That was one of the simple simple fan services that the what other fans services or things did you see that Cairo. I the main thing the first thing I saw was the rifle and everybody talks about the right okay but it deserves to be talked about talking about man. Does the night phone lorries rifle? Yeah it's It's it's kind of like a long rifle with a tuning fork. Yes that was Boba. Fett rifle in the holiday special which is the infamous holiday special which I've seen and it is as bad as everybody says and it's not like it's not like a challenge to go watch it do do not watch it. Don't watch it it's not. It's not even worth laughing at. It's it's so hard to watch but In the BLU ray release of the Star Wars. The star wars box set episodes one through six on the bonus discs. There's actually an Easter egg on their. That has the entire animated segment from the holiday special. Yes so you can actually see that and it's really cool but in that segment it's very much like a Ralph Bakshi inspired character design. It's really Kinda cool. But you do see Boba Fett teaming up with Luke at first and then he betrays him but he's got this weird rifle that should never ever work and everybody thought it was a cool looking rifle. Never in a million years would have thought we'd seen it and live action let alone we would disintegrate people. Yes that was. Another little throwback to empire when vader tells Boba Fett notice integration. Yes because he had that rifle. And rifle disintegrates. Yes it does look a little bulky on him but they still make it word. Works completely nothing about again. That goes back to what I was saying before about the visual language of star wars and again in the empire strikes back and the original theatrical cut. There's a shot on cloud city of a guy running through running through cloud city as it's being attacked by the empire but he's holding. What supposedly a futuristic device but even in the eighties everybody was like that is an ice cream maker awesome. It's just running with an ice cream maker but they brought that back And so the the client played by Verna Herzog. He actually carrying all of his best car in one of those ice cream. Oh and so. That is another throwback that I really so when he opens up. The Best Guard opens up that container. It's just an ice cream maker and it's the same kind of ice cream maker that that that extra was carrying awesome and it's Super Fund. It has no bearing on anything. If you didn't know that it's it doesn't take away or add anything to it except for the factory like I know that the super fans will catch it. Sure the casual fan okay. Whatever you know they won't even notice it but they'll still get to enjoy it absolutely. Yeah and the show is filled with stuff like that. There is an episode where the episode with Bill Burr where they go to like a heist episode. Yes super the prison ship. Yeah there is one living person on that ship. That person was played by Matt. Land Her who was the voice of anecdotes skywalker in the clone wars. Yeah and a whole bunch of other stuff but it's cool to have that clancy brown played a de Veroni wasn't Ronin. He was different. He was a different species. He was the red guy with the horns. Yeah but The Big Guy. Yeah but that was clancy Brown. Who was the voice of sabotage press and a bunch of other true in the rebels? Yeah and Star Wars rebels. He was sabotaged press. It was really cool to see people from the animation side of things being incorporated into the live action. Which is the kinds of stuff? I want to see moving forward with specific characters. Sure On the inverse of that you know we're we're getting to see live action or we're getting the animation people in live action on the mandatory and then also in Rizal Skywalker. We got sorry guys. I'm talking about it. We got to hear. Canaan from rebels was one of the voices. You heard you heard Soka. You heard every you know people who were doing voices specifically for the cartoons in for for super fans you know which if I may indulge myself already introduced you as the Superfan. Oh good good. A resident experts or whatever is just whatever cooler than I actually am but it was really fun to be able to to see those things. And if let's say I'm talking you Lee and you have no idea who Canaan is and we see rise skywalker you're thinking it's super cool because you're seeing this really cool scene. I think it's super cool because I'm seeing is really cool scene and also Kanaan's yeah and so it's just kind of another little thing and and the reason I bring rays of Skywalker with this is because it's all happening right now right now You know we can. We can talk about this next year when you know when I owned the box. Set of the man delorean and I own the skywalker. Saga and I can watch those at the same time. And it doesn't necessarily have the same effect because we can watch it whenever this is something unique to December of two thousand. Nineteen this is as we're experiencing the lore which again there are some of us like like you and I who will watch the cartoons and the TV shows and read the books and read the comments but there are some people who only will take the or now the TV shows as that's all they know about wars and that's totally cool but at this point you know we saw in the Mandal Laurean the child the baby. Iota used the force to heal somebody and a week later. We're watching the rise of SKYWALKER and we're seeing those same force. Power is being used and just from a serial point of view for storytelling. I I'm completely fascinated by. I'm really really excited. That I can experience it this way and nobody else was going to experience it this way. I in now even now. We're we're staring at the New Year here in the next couple of days. People aren't going to be able to experience it that way anymore. Because it's already happened past and it's kind of a lightning in a bottle moment. It is I mean because if you look at let's let's pivot to John Fabric who directed the the series. No produced it. Sorry yeah he was the show runner so he was in charge of everything loser. He was the basically he he wrote the show. He didn't write every episode but he he was basically the the main writer in the the idea man behind everything because he's the producer not the director. Correct okay but going to film school explained to me in the listener the difference between a producer and our director. It's a little bit different for TV than for like movies that so if you were credited as a producer on TV show you're basically a writer. Guy. inferred Jon favreau. He is the head writer. So He's the show runner. He's basically on the sorry to sound sacrilegious or whatever but on on the T- on the set he's God so he is George Lucas of the mandatory and he gets he gets to dictate everything so when Dave Baloney who actually is a co show runner when D- felonious directing his episode. Jon favreau has veto power or when Bryce Dallas Howard comes into direct her episode. She directs it as a as a film director would direct but she doesn't get to dictate necessarily depending on how the show is run. Tv director doesn't necessarily get to dictate. How a character response that is that the final safer that goes to Jon Favreau? He's in charge of making sure that there is a consistency between everything on a film on the film side of things. It's kind of like Kevin Feige for the MC you where. He is the one responsible. So if Josh Sweden makes measures in avengers bombs it's Joscelyn's responsibility but it's ultimately Kevin Fight. He's failure And that would be the same thing for Jon favreau. He's basically the face of the man delorean Pun intended but like adequate. Okay so the producer in. So you're saying okay the producers in this case in the TV. We'll just stick to that since we're talking about the men lawyer. John has the ultimate say. Yes so the director though is kind of a subset. They get to kind of write direct. How what the actors are going to say what they're GONNA do but you're saying John can come back in and say no. We're just. We're not going to do that exactly so the director and a TV show in this case. Let's look at Deborah Chow. Deborah Chow directed episodes three in episode seven. So what Deborah Chow brings to. The table is how you take specifically Deborah town. This is just for me watching her episodes because I love her episodes. She has the ability to have two people having a conversation. And have it be the most intense thing and it's very very specific and it's very very direct. Deborah Chow is going to be the show runner for the new. Obi One show. That's supposed to be coming out around. Twenty twenty one watching man delorean specifically her episodes and how she works with. Jon favreau gets me really excited for what potentially could be an a show about a hermit living in the desert which doesn't sound that exciting but the fact that she can take very mundane things and really amp it up like she did the episode where we found the mantle orients in the sewers that whole sequence of him. Walking through in the sewer. We didn't get any exposition. Really except that they are their post per. We don't know what their society as we don't know what they're trying to accomplish. We don't really understand much about the armor but we feel everything feels very lived in. It feels very real having been charged. The OBI Wan show really makes me excited for the potential of what could happen. Do you think he gives them a lot of leeway or how does that Balance Work? So you're saying is John Ultimately has a say is he there on set while she's there directing I can't say for? I wonder how that works and I guess I should just before people comment or tweet at me or whatever. Kathleen Kennedy would have veto power over. Jon Favreau Oh yeah he has just as a heads up. I haven't forgotten about Catholic Kennedy potentially. He's I don't know that he's there every day? But he's there regularly and he has people directing so he can write or he can be in the editing Bayer. He can do whatever he needs to do. He's he's not going to hire TYCO. Ytd Or bryce Dallas Howard or rick. Fukuyama Fumiaki I can't say his name so he's not going to hire people who can't do the job sure and these directors who can stand on their own have stood on their own and they don't need to be micromanaged So might just be on the cutting room floor so to speak that. John says we're we're not going to have that scene in there. Sure absolutely and I don't think at any point either would I don't think any of these directors would ever try to overstep boundaries. No I don't think hired them for reason exactly. I don't think this is going to be one of those shows where we will see directors leave for creative differences. I think I think that's one of the things that's been kind of hammered out. Sure forehand if anything we would see somebody like Jon. Favreau leave for creative differences between what he wants to do. And what either Kathleen Kennedy or the story group or whomever what they wanted. So Okay Yeah I think at this point. The directors on the show serve more of a purpose to fulfill the story that needs to be told they're allowed to put their own flair on it. They're allowed to do whatever they want. But I think they're the content is a little bit more hammered down almost every episode. Not every episode but almost every episode had Jon favreau credited as a writer. He already wrote the script but with him being an executive producer and show runner. I guarantee you. He added something to every script. He had his hands on every script. Yeah he probably look the script. Hey this looks good. What if we did this or he may have been like? This is not how the mandatory speaks. He's going to say it like this or you're not gonNA say anything and now you need to make this happen later okay. Well let's pivot to the season. Excuse me episode. One of the reveal of baby. Yoda shirt what did you think I felt like? I should've seen it coming okay. I didn't and as soon as I saw it. I was like of course absolutely of course. Why did you think of course and curious because when our management it's been hot minutes essentially in the first episode so you'll have to bear with me? I want to say he was told that the targeted was fifty years old k When he walked in I was trying to math in my head. I'm like who would be appropriate age Because fader would have been about fifty but we know he's dead and then as soon as I saw that little egg floating there fifty. Here's one on. Is it somebody's head? And then as soon as the little baby popped out that all my gosh that makes so much sense yes. I was really really excited. I I always want to guess I'm always. I'm always happy when I can't gas disappointed in myself because like how dare I not guess? But it's it who's it was. Welcome there. I had no expectations. I didn't have any idea that that's what that's what we were going to have. Is a complete surprise John. I saw an interview said that the reason they can't get the toys because he didn't want to have the toy ready for the release because it would have revealed what was in the series. He said he wanted it to be like when he was a kid. Watching Star Wars. And Finding out vader's Luke's father. Nobody knew he wanted that surprise and wanted the audience to experience it together. Sure which I thought was again. We're talking about all these little fans services. The show is definitely speckled with band services everywhere and not leak annoyingly snow. No just little things like the The carbonite freezes him in Carbonite or even on that episode talks about Life Day again another reference to the Christmas holiday special. I've watched star wars explained which I think I've brought up here before it's A. It's a youtube channel. That I really enjoy they They have full breakdowns and commentaries and stuff forever episode of the delorean and they said one of the things that they've heard a lot of complaints about is when the main delorean goes to tattooing and a lot of the shots mirror. What you see in Hope And people were complaining about that in one of their points of views and I'm crediting them because they're not mine. I really enjoyed after. They'd pointed it out. It's showing you. What the state of tattooing is in a post empire world? Oh yeah so. We see what Moss Eisley was and how it was a bustling spaceport of scum and villainy announces kind of a place the Cantina from new. Hope where they were like no droids. The detectors gone droids. Are Manning the bar how? Yeah we have The storm trooper helmets on on spears. Yeah side yes and just that's as a storyteller and as a fan of fiction for me I like that environmental storytelling where I have to tell me that since Java is dead and the Empire is gone yet that tattooing change. We don't know if it's changed for better or worse we don't have that much information. But there is a change in and the feeling of Moss Eisley specifically Which you know. Obi Wan said is a wretched hive. Scum Villainy hip is now like. It's not like it isn't that but it's it definitely feels less. Oh it feels like more of a tame. Yes well they give that feel on the whole series that the empire is weaker but the republic really hasn't come in to fill that gap shirt will west. We're five years after Jedi. Which means that go guys? This is what you signed up for. We're we're five years after JANAI. Which means that the battle of Djakou was very very recent. Okay so in. The Battle of Jackou is essentially the the final nail in the coffin of the empire. So that was that was. What really push them off to the edge so we still see stormtroopers. Yep See that. The client has a big medallion with the imperial logo on it We've gotten off Gideon leading his people so the empire like there is a concept in legends of the Imperial Remnant. Yes so it's people who are still loyal to the ideals of the empire but the Empire as a singular unit no longer controlling force. Yeah they have no power now Pockets of power. But do they like? What are they in charge of the? They're they're still have military. Might Gangsters Yeah. Yeah but it's it's very interesting I And we need to talk about the rise of Skywalker at some point because when that movie ended a I walked away like okay. That was cool. But what is the state of like Glac Dick Politics in this? I was so interested but in that. But that's what I'm looking at with Amanda Laurie Who is we know that? We know that Laya IS At this point looking at the rise of skywalker again. I'm not talking about skywalker. But we're we're looking at the rise of skywalker. We know that she spent about a year training with Luke yes So at this point she would have been done training with Luke and would have been working on within the new republic and potentially starting. The idea forming the resistance. I would say at this point the book. Oh my gosh. There's a book about Lia Princess Leia. Bloodlines is at the book. Yes principally Blue Star Wars bloodlines. Excuse me written by Claudia. Gray is that legends or is that that is Canon. That is in in bloodlines. We are following Laya as like Ben. Solo is maybe too and she and Han have their relationships. I would say at this point in the man. Delorean we're getting the new republic really stationing itself as a force as like not just with but like the political power and one of the things Monmouth Madrid immediately after the destruction of the second death star around the time of the Battle of Jack who was to cut back significantly the amount of naval forces and ground forces. So you're not going to the empire's might was showcased by the stormtroopers and the fact that there was always something to remind you that the Empire's here and there in charge and we definitely don't see that near as much the only time we see storm troopers is when the is win like Mafa Gideon or the client are taking over a town so you were saying they've got some power and it's incredibly limited. Yeah and I think just speaking politically in the Star Wars universe. It very much is interesting. That the only places I mean. We've only seen things from the mandatory point of view so we haven't seen too much and I will definitely allow for that. But based on what we've seen through the limited scope we've only seen the empire showing power in very small remote places where the new republic won't necessarily have as much okay. Yeah that's true because he's always because he's being tracked. He's got to stay in to the remote more remote areas where the republic doesn't care but the empire might want to have. The local governor's being the the gangsters. They're exactly yeah. I'm sorry it took me a long time to point. That's okay that's okay. Go make the baby. Yoda I guess. Those that may say that. Why do we have to have a cuteness factor in here again? We you know we had the walks do we. Why do we why do we? Why do you have to have fun? Why why do we? Why do we do anything for fun? It's adorable here's a here's what happens. Immediately with episode was called the Child Guy in and the whole idea behind episode two. Was the man. Delorean was bringing the target back to the client in order to get his payment and go all we know about the man delorean is that he's a bounty hunter. He's doing job. We can't see his face and he kills people. That's not a sympathetic person. While he's on the ship with the babies fiddling around with stuff and as he's looking at the baby he's thinking of himself when he was a kid. Oh yeah those birds rescued so there is a cuteness factor to the child or baby. Yoder whatever you WANNA call him but through that cuteness factor the fact that we identify with him and WanNa protect I say him? It might be her when we look at the child and we want to protect the child. We automatically going to judge how people handle this kid and so when we wash the man delorean handle the gently we automatically understand that we can go ahead and care for this guy and and we feel bad when he turns them over. We understand it. We don't feel comfortable with it and neither ski and he has to go back in and save it and if you look at how. His relationship with the baby works every single time. Somebody sees the baby however they react to that baby informs US OF THEIR CHARACTER. And that's that's true. Almost one hundred percent of the time so in the very last episode of the season we it starts off with those two scout troopers. And he's in a bag and the scout troopers are they're hitting the bag trying to get the baby to shut up and we automatically know hate these people they need to die he lands on tattooing. And there's that that hard edged lady who doesn't want to help him she's like I don't care about any of this stuff. She sees the baby and she's like okay even Grief cargo to a certain extent. He is upset with Amanda Laurean until he sees the baby and he's like okay. Sure and so we understand that grief is somebody we can get behind Mark Gideon. No YES CARA. Dune absolutely is pro pro. Amanda Laurean on the side of the baby. It's it's very much a litmus test it's a very very quick way So yeah it's cute. It's it's toy attic. It's something that that but also it's because of the baby that you can get your girlfriend to watch star wars with you. Okay okay. Good point good white. Speaking of the stormtrooper sit in the baby and that scene too they were trying to shoot the target and they couldn't hit it. Sure that's another fan service. It is a little bit of Fan Service. Here's what's always bug me with that. The fact that stormtroopers can't shoot is a joke that goes back to the original star wars movie. And we're doing this again. You guys stop in. We're doing this again. I'm going down a hole so in in a new hope when they escape on the Millennium Falcon they get away lay a mentioned that they let her go. They let them go fairly easily. Hana's like you think that was easy and I. I honestly believe that we look at how the storm troopers shoot at Laya and Luke and Han when they're escaping the death star. They wanted them to escape. That's how they found with a rebel base. Is that's true at the beginning of a new hope? There is When Owen Barua killed they show up to the site OBI WAN and And Luke show up and they said maybe the San People did this. Lovie one says no and only imperial stormtroopers are so precise is it? Precise were they sporadic. I don't know but that is kind of the thing. If we go back to even earlier in the man Laurean you watch how the stormtrooper shoot. And they're not missing. I think it's a funny joke. I think I think it's a fun. Throw away I just posted earlier today about stormtroopers missing but it is something I will stanchly defend. I feel like it is an unwarranted thing. I do like the idea that the stormtroopers can't hit anything. I don't like these guys. I really wanted when he when that one guy was shaking the gun by helmet. I wanted to go off and shoot him in the face. That would have been awesome. Actually really really funny so I decided to go on my high horse. I liked it. They just put that little jammed in there again. John just hits all the little fan things over here and there and that was that episode was directed by Tyco t who understands pacing. And he can take he. Can he can take these two characters that were just like waiting to die and and and make it so what they're doing is at least engaging and entertaining it. It kind of had a field to the old comic tag and bank which is a comedic story about these two these two stormtrooper characters who were always in the peripheries of major events that were happening in the Star Wars Universe. And I don't believe these two characters were tagging bank at all. It did very much ring true for what you would read in in a legends comic. That was kind of comedic that takes place during the super heavy event. Yeah okay well how. How excited where you were to see the dark sabre. Would you ever see that in in a live action series? You guys you guys know me and I love the cold. War's I love rebels. And Sabine is one of my all time favorite star wars characters and I love previously. Who is voiced by Jon favreau his arc in clone. Wars is one of the greatest things if you guys only watch one arc. In clone wars look up the episodes about previously. It's so cool because I thought the I was so happy in the end. The episode of the Mandal Laurean where he ran into the really big dude with the with the gun. And they hold fibro blades up to each other's necks or whatever that will like. I was voiced by Jon favreau. His character's name was pass vistula which is a little bit different than previously was name but they have very similar names. They were both voiced by Jon. Favreau I was like. I'm very happy with this. So we cut to the final episode. And we're pretty sure Gideon's dead. I was like a Betcha at least half of his face burned off like bringing like breaking bad. Sorry guys in breaking bad. He loses half his face. When I saw that blade come through I was like no no no no no no no no no. As soon as the episode was over I made my girlfriend sit through five youtube videos on the history of the dark sabre and what it means to Star Wars. And she was rolling her eyes. I was like no it's dark sabre so the dark saver for those of you don't know and haven't bothered to look it up on tell you for those who do know. Tell me how wrong I am. We'll give you the crash course here. There was a man delorean Djeddai with the last name of Islam before the clone wars. He was the first man delorean he forged a sabre where the blade was black and it emitted a white light and it was a dark saver when he died. The Saber was kept in the archives. Corresondent previous La broke into the temple stole dark sabre At a time where Mandel lower as a as a planet and as a species were more passive and peace loving. Oh my gosh. I just realized I can tie this all back. I'm very excited. So previously a lead a group of mandolins called Death Watch and they wore blue armor. This is around the time of the clone wars. We Watch final episode of manned Laurean where we're learning more and more about what happened to the mandatory and we saw that his parents were more or less killed by some super battle droids during the clone wars. He was saved by a squad of men. Delorean's wearing blue armor. Mambo was saved by death. Watch who has led by revisit. Who actually at that point in time would have had the darker sabre through rebels? And whatever Sabine got the dark sabre and the dark sabre was passed on to a lady named Bowen a Tan who was voiced by Katie sack. Off and the character actually is designed to look like her. So there's a massive question. As far as the dark saver goes between like what happened to Boca Tan. That would have caused the dark sabre to enter in Imperial Security Bureau officer an ISP officer to get that And that's all going to come down to the purge of Mandal Lor and it was with the purge whatever happened during the purge is what caused a massive rift in the mandal orients. That's what caused their culture to now no longer remove their helmets. They always leave their helmets. On presumably man delorean's race has been wiped out because they say in the show that being Amanda Laurean has agreed not a race. So the Purge Amanda Lor my assumption is Bo Catan was killed and the dark sabre was confiscated by the Empire. There are no species mandala around anymore. That's what they said in the show. We don't know what happened specifically with the perch we don't know we don't know what it means to be. Amanda Laurean as a race versus as a culture. And I I. I need that in my life. I think they'll explore that. They just really seem to have a lot of fun with this. Who is your favorite character in this area and why that is hard hard question you know. It was a toss up between between a lot of people and I think the final episode solidified it for me. I'M GONNA go with kerosene and doon doon. And the reason is I. I always dug her care. I love the actress who plays her apropos of nothing but win giddy and his is identifying everybody calling them by their names. We find out that Karen is a survivor of all Duran. And yes as soon as I saw that I was like yes. Of course yes absolutely it it just like the reason you look at her in the. Promo images in your like who gets a rebel TATTOO ON THEIR FACE. But even if it's just a little one who gets a rebel got to your target. Yeah absolutely like what could possibly have driven you to the empire destroyed your planet. Yeah absolutely I in in the way if you look at what? Laya did in response to the empire destroying all Doron where she just you know she was like okay. Now I'm GonNa go lead the charge you have to imagine. This is me bringing it to the table. This is not can in this. Tim's interpretation you have to imagine being alone in the universe when your planet has been destroyed you look at your royalty or I'm not sure if it's a political the political structure of alder on what am I endured But if you if you see the surviving royalty of your planet pull up her bootstraps and just go on to be a bad at. You can't help but follow suit. In and Cara Dune literally lost everything and forged her own identity. And I just absolutely love with that I I love. I love what she's done. Her attitude is fantastic. She's always even when she's in peril she's smiling and she's pushing her way through it and it's it's admirable in its super cool going into season two next year. What are a couple? Things caught characters concepts that are on your wishlist that you hope that they explore you kind of alluded to it. I guess with the dark sabre would I wanted. I would like to know what happened during the purge. I WanNa know what happened during the perjure mandal or I would love to see Boca Tan. They talk about the purge. Explain win in the time. Line was the purge so we're five years after return five years after return on was the purge purge presumably would have happened around the time of I would say rogue one or or the original movie in rebels season four rebels we see the beginnings of the revolution on Manda lower. And that's led by Sabine and Boca Tan and I really in season two of the mandatory. And if I don't find out about the purge that's fine but I would like some more information on mandatory and culture. Even if I don't have information on Bo Catanha's a character or even Sabine. I don't need to see these characters I would love to. I Would Hill see these characters but I want to know more about you know. Let's presumably at this point because the the armourer said that effectively. The man delorean is the child's father and that is until they return the child to its people or that child decides to become a man delorean and I'm very curious. If there's a time jump between seasons one and two or what will see as far as the relationship I I wanna give the darn baby name. I would like to not have to the child or I. There's a very western sensibility to the mandatory. And the client the child and I. I like that a lot but I also I'm kind of a fan of namings and I would love to be able to say Steve instead of baby iota or the child and then we can all stop arguing over. Which is the correct nomenclature. It's is it Steve. Do you think they'll go to? Yoda's home world no no I. Don't I don't if we if we get information on what's species iota is or where he's from? Run the risk of you. Run the risk of ruining the Mystique of what makes iota interesting. It was something that a lot of fans push back on in the comic book world a few years ago when they gave away wolverines origin. Because everybody was like if you tell me where he's from he's not going to be interesting. Will they told us where he was from? Then they found a way to make him interesting again and that's cool with the character that currently exists but as iota has passed. I almost I prefer it personally as not knowing. I don't need to know and maybe that could be a a welcome Lynch pin to the story of the child is he's like you know we can't find any information but they don't need any information because this is my tribe. This is my people this is. This is what makes me me if they do. Tell us. Yoda's history and who has people are where they came from and maybe they're all four sensitive. I don't know if I got that I'll be disappointed but I won't be angry. It's not what I want. But Star Wars does not have to be what I want. Sure I don't I don't make the rules I I. I know what I like about Star Wars but until what I like is challenged. I won't know if I like something different. I do have theories with the cloning and how that relates to palpitation and the rise of skywalk. Yes I I'm not I'm still formulating because I was under the impression that in rise a skywalker which as of recording. I've only seen once so I could be wrong. I thought that palpitation himself was clone or that he had cloned an aspect of himself. And I guess I was wrong in that but I was wondering too if if the baby is cloned or if they take a piece of his. Dna are able to map out many Koreans. It would make plausible to clone a force user. But that just opens up all kinds of other things. Because I've always wondered if clone troopers if it was ever plausible for clone trooper to have different. Midi chlorine count than another or to be able to tap into the forces to be for sensitive so when I see in Rizal Skywalker. That Finn is four sensitive. That's like what if what if Captain Rex's four sets it wouldn't that be have there's if I wrote for Star Wars. I would absolutely right after the after order. Sixty six as the clone troopers were getting phased out. I would absolutely right about a former clone trooper. Who is maybe four sensitive and what that means to somebody who who had succumbed to order sixty six and what would that mean if suddenly you realize you're the thing that you're supposed to kill is just. I think that's interesting. That would be interesting. Hey Hey Hayden if you can call Kathleen Kennedy and tell her. I have an idea I would appreciate it. Thank you. It actually is a good idea. Because they're made millions of clones. What if one of them was for sensitive half to write at least one just by accident right well? I mean you wouldn't do it on purpose. But that also theoretically could have inspired the Camino ins to be like Oh will if if one of them has the force we could have done this and also explain like pouch teens. Existence in the rise of skywalker would explain why the clone troopers were phased out in fate in favor of stealing children and brainwashing kids because all of their resources we're going to clone force users And that might be how we got smoke. And we're learning more about smoke in the rise of Kylo Ren Comic. This is really really good. Okay so yeah I you guys talking about Star Wars on the clone side wasn't the the guy that was in episode two. He had a patch on his shoulder. That was the Camino Patch. Yeah that was pershing Dr pershing okay. He definitely has a patch that was similar to the cloning facility on Camino so obviously some cloning that was they were trying to do along with Jon favreau. The CO show runner of the main delorean is Dave Bologna. Dave colonie is the mastermind really behind the success of clone wars and rebels an even star wars resistance. He's very and he very much loved clones and he would not put in a reference to a clone on accident okay. I don't believe that that's just like Oh. Hey let's see if people notice this like no it's GonNa be there for reason. Sure well as these as I've said another episodes about star wars a lot of these writers now in producers directors and whatnot are all they grew up on this stuff and so they're writing and directing and producing a lot of the stuff that the fans want. So I think you're going to see more air quotes here fan service in my opinion on a lot of these different stories and characters in. They're going to give us those things that you know because they enjoyed them when they were young. And so we're kind of along for the ride is Kinda my thought pattern on that absolutely. I wouldn't even say a anymore because of because of the fans are the people making the show I would almost say it's not even fan service anymore it's like transcended fan service to almost be just like story service. Because it was the stuff of they fell in love with and they're like well. Let's embrace this. There's a there's a troop carrier in an episode of the man delorean. That was based on a troop carrier that was to be in one of the movies but was scrapped but there was a toy that came out. Oh so in the man delorean. It's win I WanNa say it's an episode seven right before Right before they opened fire on marketing in his opening fire on the mandatory and Keira. There's like a little transport that shows up a bunch of stormtroopers. Come out okay. Yes yes yes. It's based on an old toy from like the seventies and eighties really. Yeah yeah sure of it and they just went. They just went to town. And and it's it's it's really cool to just be a fan and watch fans take over. I had somebody told me once that they think only fans should make things and I think that's incorrect I don't agree with that at all but there is something to be said for having fans tell a story in a way that somebody who's an outsider wouldn't be able to but I also think the inverse of that is also true. I think I think in order to grow you need to have an outside an outsider's view of what could be good or what could be fun. But also on the man delorean. Just just give me all the stuff I want to be. Great Thank You. You can tell. John Loves the university's plane. And Oh yeah. That makes a huge difference. So well-versed and you know Dave Baloney Works very closely with Pablo Hidalgo and Matt Martin and other people in the Lucasfilm story group in to have like just easy access to those guys. It really feels like in the movies. The lucasfilm story group is more of a an adviser capacity whereas like in the Mandal Orient feels like they are much more of an active part so instead of and like in rises Skywalker the very beginning were never told this but the the planet that Kylo Ren his on his Mustafar and he was actually in the ruins of vader's castle. Oh you don't know that. Until after the fact and the visual dictionary comes out or Pablo Hidalgo tweets it. And you're like Oh that's really interesting and it's cool if you've played the vader immortal. Vr GAME. You know why Mustafar is no longer just encased and lava and why there are trees and why there are people living on it and that has no bearing to you know John Does. He's going to the theater to watch star wars. He doesn't care about the planet or who these people are but as a fan I'm like. Oh my gosh this is most afar. This is where vader's castle is. This is an episode three where Vader in. Ob One have their have madel and he gets his arms cut off and he's crawling into the lava pit. It's it's just nuts. It's so cool and just to have that exist. Superfund just to put that again. Those little things that they have in a lot of this so back to the wishlist thing. Sure we talked about maybe having the episodes little longer or maybe having more episodes the next go around. Is that something? You kind of like you'd WanNa see would really like that. I would love a higher episode count or a consistent length of an episode. I understand that when we're watching the delorean at no point was I like. Why does this show cost so much? It's a lot like game of thrones when you watch an episode of game of thrones. You're not shocked when you find out how much it costs because it's all on screen but I do believe given the perceived success of season one out of the gate enemy. We're we're not even we're talking about like season one finished Disney plus hasn't even existed for more than a couple of months. So we're we're going to see what the value of the show is over the next few as people who haven't seen it yet come in to watch it or binge it or people who go into re watch it or if it's pirated what. Disney needs to be able to see the value in the property which they already do. I mean they've already got their money back from when they bought it from George Lucas but I believe that Disney will see that there is inherent value in. We probably won't see like a twenty episode season but I don't think it's outside of the realm of plausibility to get ten to twelve episodes And maybe instead of seeing you know the shortest episode being between like Twenty eight thirty three minutes. Maybe we'll get you know consistently forty minute episodes of nothing else I would be super great And I'm not trying to shoot for the moon here. I'm like just give me like three three more episodes of season. Give me just about maybe five to ten more minutes per episode okay on average and as you know let's start there okay if you had. Kathleen last question if you had Kathleen Kennedy here. What would you tell her in season? Two and three what you need to keep doing. And what don't do this or what do you need your? Here's what I'd like to see. You keep doing what you're doing. Good shirt maybe what you don't want to do to to the franchise I don't know that I'd be able to answer that question. I don't I don't. I don't know that I'm equipped to say that. Yeah all I all I would be able to say. Here's what I love. Find ways to continue to surprise me. Don't allow the merchandise to overtake the show. Okay because I want I want stuff I want to be able to have stuff but not at the expense of being surprised I WANNA constantly be surprised. I want to the as far as the man delorean himself. Don't give me any reason to hate him. I want to. I don't need to be happy with his actions all the time. I WANNA maybe question why I like him but I wanNA consistently beyond his side and I think that's that's the most important thing what's what they've done with. The man delorean as a character with us not being able to see his face. What they've done is just fantastic. What the stunt crew was done and what the directors have done and what the actors of all done. It makes me believe that. This helmet is is a sympathetic character. In that is that is amazing so continue to surprise me. Continue to make me love this character and please put him through hell make make the worst things in the world happened to this guy so that when he overcomes it. I can just be super happy for him. I do like the fact that the best car you know the metal they have no he can take a beaten in matter shot more than Mao firefly. He got he gets shot so much in a lot of it is he understands. He's GonNa get shot. He put so much faith in his armor because he believes in his cause and who he is. It is very very intensive. Would you watch like the action scenes? They're really really fun. But you watch the man delorean specifically he will take a shot in the chest. It's so he knows again. Yeah absolutely hit so. I didn't know much about best car until totals series. Nobody did. And then everybody's like. What is this stuff now? It's so cool. It is well. Thanks Tim I appreciate it. I love diving into these mandal oriented or star wars universe so if the listener this is your first time. You've heard Tim. You can go back and get some other starrewards information from previous episodes all. Put those in the show notes but Tim as always please let the listener. Now how they can get in touch with you. Missed insurance mentioned tweeting. You can tell him he's wrong or he's right both wrong so far nobody. Nobody had the Has had the cone as to tell me how wrong I am You must be right. Must be right. 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#13 - Kinghts of the Old Republic Remake???

W-Key Podcast

58:28 min | 9 months ago

#13 - Kinghts of the Old Republic Remake???

"The W W Welcome Back Ladies and gentlemen to Episode Number Number Thirteen of Wke podcasts. Unlucky for some lucky for us. Lucky number. Thirteen Co hosts. My Name Is Josh Aka. J Frosty St with me as always my brother Matt Aka technique now so it's been a couple of weeks. We do our episodes biweekly lot of cool stuff. Duff has been happening lately new month February. We're you know. We're slowly progressing through this year. Twenty twenty which is turning out to be pretty good so far Super Bowl just happened for you. Sports fans out there that that are also gamers. Were in talk a little bit about that tonight as well but first first thing. I think we're just GONNA jump right into it. I mean I'm pretty excited about it. It might be reason for me to kick the game back up again. But as of voting update age as of recording this apex legends season. Four is out so this episode will drop on Wednesday the fifth in February but on the fourth which is today APEX LEGENDS SEASON. Four went live it's called assimilation. It's officially one year old apex. which is I think's pretty crazy to think about Jack is just yesterday I was like. Hey what's this apex game. That's how I know everyone was all over and yeah and I mean I played. I played a fucking ton of it. So yeah it's it's crazy to think that it's been out for year. I mean I think it's done a really good job and it's anti that it's been out so you know it's a it's cemented itself in the battle royale genre. I think for sure like other Games. There's people don't like here. Yeah there's people hate on it but I think overall it was a good refreshing addition to genre. That was kinda getting a little boring. You know those fortnight blackout to some extent. And then you know apex came in and just to think about to Brian. To very revolutionary nary things like must now about rows and like hanging and ability to kind of like gear teammates banner Tartu Whatnot in rebuked him. Yeah so I mean those are things that just Jackson them instantly so spicy stuff to the royal genre. Yep and it's it's one year old today some interesting stuff. I like what they do. What respond does with the stories stories around the new characters around the new seasons? Like you get a free to play game and if you want to you can pay for skins and cosmetics and stuff like that but essentially the game as a whole is free play But you get so much extra in all the like animated stories shorts. It's very similar to however watch kind of operates. Overwatch is not a free to play game so you know you kind of expect that from a game that has a price tag. Yeah it's very similar. I think it's very interesting. I like all the stories that they've done all the story shorts. I liked the all the trailers all teasers like the new seasons like the season three launch video was so so good. It was like gummy so hyped up for the game that I I was like Oh my God I need to play this like now. Just because the way they reproduce it the way they edited. It looks so good and the season four trailer was the same way it was very well done. They definitely stepped up. Their game in these premier does not feel like one game first came out. They really do a whole bunch of it. He didn't. I didn't really feel like a connection. I guess could say to the characters but now lately they've been dropping more and more videos kind of show you the insight of these people you playing as he can get a little more connection going on with them but they're definitely put more dollar bills towards these these videos are doing is definitely working on. I'm all in always loved. Overwatch stuff they do so a lot of copying that model bid. I think they're doing a job. Yeah Yeah I mean I think the biggest thing was. I didn't know if the game was going to be successful or not so I just want to drop a seed. It's going to be like okay guys. Now let's actually do what we WANNA do and do those but yeah for sure consistently so. I think it's at school and they've done a really good job so another little thing that they added in this year so obviously as of now. Everyone's pretty well aware. The new character is revenue. But I liked how. Yeah and he's fucking crazy robots. I'll talk a little bit about skills after this but the kind of teased and they leaked or someone leaked teased. Another legend called forge and so everyone was like. Oh maybe revenues coming in the season. Maybe it's going to be. It's going to be this guy forged and he looked really cool and then they did. This whole Yeah we'll switcheroo. They gave us this whole little teaser. Video of like an interview like obviously in world in Apex Legends World An interview with four the interviewers sitting there talking and asking questions and then forges there and then all of a sudden something comes out from behind and just absolutely stabs stabs forge in the back and Lo and behold it's revenue and you're like Oh everyone's like Oh shit like so it's not forge and it's going to be revenue like I just thought it was such a crazy twist. It was a really good job of a good job. Getting everyone hype for forge at the same time still like wedding. The appetite people wanting revenue like revenue was going to be the next legend and then they just pulled a little swap ru. I mean that was pretty cool. Definitely Anthony to wash the full videos. Because I want first video I watched the first five seconds like okay. This is the new guy. Cool move on but then you told me about it. I went back Hoe Video Jio and shows him getting stabbed like he said okay so they really they really did. They really gave me the runaround but yeah love that little video I assume that forge. Maybe that wasn't actually him that got killed. Why would you go through all this hype up of this character character just to have him killed by revenue? That's it just throwing away so there is there is some you know. Oh yeah so we get some sceptic Dick tank you know some skeptics out there. Some some people who are not really sold on the fact that the person that revenue killed was actually actually forge. So there's a few things like you watch you watch the video and I think like the person being interviewed how to scar on his left eye or something like that but but then the picture of forge in the background. There is no scar the picture of Ford. She's got green eyes. And then the guy that got stabbed only had had brown eyes so there's a lot of people. Oh and then like they've they've left some little Easter egg tags saying like you know forge often imitated man. WHO's been imitated? You know a bunch of times times so one would think that potentially it's like a fake out and maybe halfway through the season he was coming so yes stunt double something like that so I think it's interesting because basically half of the season is going to be happening at the the new map on worlds and then halfway through the season they're going to switch back to Kings Canyon so like at that halfway point and and I know right like after at that halfway point. Are they going to do some sort of half season you know mid mid season event where they're like. Oh Hey hey a second. We're getting a second legend and it's forged like I don't know I think that would be super sweet like I think that'd be a cool thing to do. is they did so much tighter. Upper upper like propping him up to just have them knocked off is a little ridiculous. It's so like obviously the things we're talking about. The scar color is just like front and center because like all all he can see behind them during the interview is that's all it is. It's just his face showing his is in the scars. Not like a full face pitcher or this so your eyes are drawn like man. This guy does not At all like the dude is being interviewed. So I definitely think misdirection scaled back Like you said halfway through the season and or at the end of the season but yeah things definitely. Yeah so I mean I think it's interesting 'cause I definitely I do think like put in too much work on forged. This happened go away. They like that so we'll see we'll have to see what happens. You know. There's some other new things with the with the season. There's all of that. That's that has nothing absolutely nothing to do with actual gameplay that's all just Kinda like lore around the game in the world itself which I think is cool because we've got people talking and speculating on just kind of like the world that APEC Texas Bill but going into a more functional standpoint there are other things in the Games in the game that is actually changing. So they're adding a new sniper sniper rifle Called the sentinel. It's a bold action like charge sniper rifle though so it's similar to the charge rifle but So I guess longer does is more damage yes instantly. I think that's the what I'm getting from it. Essentially as earlier doc was playing until like he was just like shooting rapidly by who did more damage assume for to do more damage that got you got hold it for long shot off. Yep so that's I believe that's exactly the case if you shoot it quickly the You can get off a lot of shots but the shots themselves. Aren't that strong whereas charges. It's a much stronger strong but it upside is faster. Travel time in the long Bella guesses what he can kind of. Compare it to so it has our travel time along both so like if you want either long does damage or the sentinel that does fast shots less damage and organize. Yeah so he's options. I liked that it's not a great weapon or a drop weapon. I like that. It's a spawn weapon. I they haven't done a spawn or a crate only weapon in a while and I think because people you know because they realized like really add variety to the game. You've got to add those weapons Out in the world or yeah there are some map changes you know. I'm not really going to go to. The map changed. But there are some changes to world's end being being Being taken placer racer whatever however you WanNa say the guy that What's his Bordj works for? Does he work for. That's like who's taking your over kind of this map I came in robotics. is here drilling basically kind of like that. So yeah they basically have developed this and called the the Planet Harvester where they can harvest plants for Energy Asia and Hammonds also the people who created revenue. Okay yes if you watched the revenue release trailer Reverend. Thinks he's a person and he thinks he's a hitman buddy Lisa flesh and blood person than when he actually completes his last hit. Somebody gets hit with a piece of glass in his neck and that kind of on news. Whatever programming Hamid it hasn't placed to make him think he's a human person he sees himself for who we actually is? So I think that's Kinda cool like all the little stuff I'll a little nuance things it. Just it's super awesome awesome Obviously new skins. I've seen some of them. They look fucking awesome. That's pretty sweet. Ranked mode Series three obviously just another. You know it's it's third season of ranked so there are some interesting changes with the ranked which I figured figured would be coming because it's Kinda happened over watch as well overwatch started with a ranked in you know? It took a little bit for them to get a sense of how to run a ranch system the best way possible or or quote unquote the best way of the Ferris Way. So the idea with apex is it's going to be very very similar to the kind of restrictions that overwatch has so once you hit platinum four. You can only party up with players who are within one tier rank of you so I if you're platinum platinum you can play. You can only party with players who are gold through diamond while I'm in players can only play with teammates that are platinum through master. So that's one below and one above as well so yeah. I think that's an interesting bronze gold platinum. Yep a bronze GOLD PLATINUM DIAMOND MASTER IS APEX Predator Law. So that's the other thing with the with the Apex Predator is they're adding essentially a new tier. So what used to be Apex Predator is still going to be a tax partner. But it's not going to be the highest tier you can reach their basically again have another tier above that which comprises the top five hundred players on each planet so overwatch top Massar Gray mass than and so. Yeah and so. It's the top five hundred players on each system so you'll have a five hundred top five hundred on top five hundred xbox top five hundred on places for so that'd be fifteen hundred top five hundred players essentially. How are they going to bring in cross platform? Yeah that's true. I know I just googled that earlier today because I was like like wait. Saint Place Cross platform or no googled. It and it's not yet McMahon. They I haven't heard anything. It does surprise me. It is so successful without it. Having Cross play which I I think is Kinda wanted to test how good the game is into is in my mind. Different pools players concert players still So very popular. I feel like shooting away. It can only benefit. It would make the whole game better. I think I think you would make everything better. I think they he would be king. Hillary we don't it would only stand to benefit that centrally but see. Yeah we'll see we'll see what happens See instead of you hit apex ex- Predator. That's great that's great ranked have but also there's there's then a level higher than that which I think it's pretty cool you know. There's there's a Lotta people that hit Predator pretty pretty easily pretty quickly especially a lot of streamers. I feel like any humor wash their insulin apex. Payer rank it seems like it's not that tough so anyone that's like really try hard sweat it gives them something to work towards. Yeah and I fell five hundred rank. Think that and then I think also having and you know a smaller pool that fluctuates more. So your top five hundred you know. There's only five hundred people getting that rank and that can fluctuate you go on your extremer. Emmer you you're a hard. Try Hard sweat player. You Go away on vacation for like a week. There goes your top five hundred and like you might have to you know really grind signed your ass off to get back up there so I think it's it's cool. Silver people who put much stock in video games like as far as their ranking. I mean it's interesting for them them. It's not really going to affect the everyday player all that much because I mean I played a ton apex barely got into platinum. I think yeah so. It's like I just. I liked playing apex because of how fast it was and you could just run at people and getting gunfights and you can run and you could get outta gunfights pretty quickly too so like I al.. That's what I always really liked about the game itself so for me. I wasn't like trying to sweat it out and get a ton of victories and getting ranked victories was awesome. Awesome I just. I didn't care as much necessarily as I would have in some other games. I sweat real hard and like pub. Gee I really wanted to get wins and Pudgy Budgie once. I realized that wasn't something that was going to happen on a regular basis. I was kind of like just run into the fucking so maybe which are fun there are I mean. I think hot droppings. A lot of fun. They have their place and So Yeah I the game. As a whole is getting better I mean there's so many. EPA Out there the you know the Internet's villages negative negatively all the time. And there's so there's so many people is watching some other streamers today like summit and stuff like that and you see people in the chat being please God please tell me. You're not part of the apex ad like on one of Oughta fuck and watch that game like I- he plays Kharkov and like I've gotten into Kharkov of hard and so for me watching him. Play Kharkov is enjoyable but like for the everyday viewer I think apex is a much more Exciting game to watch. I I think at least so I don't know why so many people so many of those guys that are not all guys so many of those people that are just so like I want to you. See this game I hate it. I don't play. Please play it. It's like who cares. I mean I will say though is still looks like the time to kill is just It's just like shoot shoot a jobs back shields up gets back to the same you know yeah full. She'll help get back in the fight against UC Xu Lou shields dropback shield up again. And she's how and then you get third time to jail time Tequila just feel like is won't say too high but she is watching earlier like I said it's just he's pumping bullets. Needs People. Known dying owns going down down. Yeah you got a card. I think that's the big thing like that. One for me Dr Dear God. Don't play his game. It's terrible I it's just just like Pressuring guest as as a fan of the streamer Let's say it'd be frustrating to see my man hitting people. Don't go down. I know it's even more frustrating for the Game Aymeric I'm in the same boat when we play Apex Law. That's what always harp on. I am getting six hundred damage done and getting one kill. Just because you're pumping helping people full of lead of this job. Baggio draw back and he on like you said by the time you guys do dance a few times. A third party comes in and takes out on your Fox so I will say I don't know if they got nerve shields maybe reduce them out of. Barry's pickup but I just feel like it. Still Very Keel Fest. Not as much as I love how fast you can go and how you can get right to the gunfight so the gunfights then contract on a little bit too long because of all the shields just keep on yourself. Yeah and that is true. I I definitely feel that way. Especially when you get into the higher ranks like. I said it's I think it is very reliant on hitting like you're you're multipliers your critical like head shots shots and stuff like that. And I'm just not that kind of player I've never really been you know. Oh snap to do like. That's just not how I play and so for meeting. A gunfight says body shots and that's the thing I definitely feel that way especially when you get into the higher ranks where the other people are had shotting you a lot like you get into a fight you get the drop on someone you put like half Clinton them they turn around and four bullets on your head with like a peacekeeping with a wing man in your debt. You're like what the fuck like I I. I did hate that a lot so I get where you're coming from and I do think I also have. We haven't played in a really long time though ever since cod came out I haven't haven't really played a tax so it's it's hard to say that like Russia she. Yeah it's hard to be like. Oh yes I still feel that they need to nerve this from all my experience appearance like my experiences like four months old like I haven't played the game like four or five months so even if you just like the things are changing her anything done to like shields or anything. It's all the same stuff. I'm pretty sure. Yeah so so only match in. It's the same way. Yeah I should imagine Agean to. I've watched some I watched a bit Onstream and it does look very similar. So doesn't look like much changed from that time to kill round in at that time to kill realm so I think you're probably right and I think you know you're right about that and you're probably right about the fact that something should be done about it. You know whether they're going to change anything I I don't I don't know it's hard to say because people say it's popular everyone's pretty happy with it You have your few vocal people who are like God damn the fog from from general standpoint. It's still really popular really widely received positive and people enjoy. Enjoy it so I you know if it ain't fixed if it ain't broke don't fix it so it's not that big of a deal. I mean it's not like every single player out there wanting about it's time to kill her shield so today it's something on the on the back burner possibly but it's not some. It's not some big issue that everyone saying is a big issue so there's obviously been. Yeah so that's pretty much. Everything happening with apex for the most part so big. Big Week for apex. It's been a big day. It's awesome big big day be week big year for them. Yeah so he's sexy. What they keep on doing? Yeah exactly I. They done a good job in respond as a whole between apex in between Djeddai fallen order so little side. No he didn't really have this in there to talk to actually to see an article the other day where following orders outselling the as expectations by like a lot. And so they're like. Oh my gosh I can like six to eight million copies sold. They're like well past. Yes yeah exactly exactly so. It's like a we talked about in the last episode like that. Hopefully you see a lot of the big games that are being announced are being teased for this coming year for a year that we're in currently a lot of single player games and I'm hoping that that was my sentiment back net episode that the companies are getting the point. You make a good story driven single player game and it's going to sell like crazy and I think this just more icing on the cake that hey look. It's critically critically acclaimed. It did really well. It's a good story. It's a single player. Game with no micro transactions no online capabilities whatsoever and your sound off the shelf like crazy easy so I think that's that's good. It's a little little aside to little everything we'd already had kind of laid out so I thought that was interesting. Plant people I know it is funny. It's Israel find. The real quick also contains not how they add began. They didn't even want it to be a force user or just be like pistols basically Santer. I tweeted out on our on our on. The shows a cow. I retweeted it and I was like 'cause they the word is they use as like. Oh Kathleen Kennedy wasn't keen on it being being a force user and I was like so she wasn't keen on making money and and so because it's true I mean if it would have been bound hundred I mean it's just it's another battlefront like it's a single the player battlefront like you know if there's been enjoyable but good God. Did lightsaber enforce game. So damn good. It's how could you ever think yeah. It's me just hours game. Hey let's not make users. Oh come on. Can you GONNA fucking Lightsaber Goddamn exactly. When it's a single player immersive story you want to be like? You're that person so yeah I'm going to be like Oh my God that's me wielding that lightsaber. I'm so stoppable darks So strong that would be the one negative I would say about the game. No I get it because it's a very linear story. But no no morality choices which hopefully hopefully maybe in the second game you know maybe maybe calc and drifted dark side. And we'll see very Dan with how they made it. Yeah so those little interesting using little aside Superbowl happens like I mentioned earlier. A Super Bowl happened this past Sunday your Kansas City potentially your Kansas City chiefs. Aren't whoever's listening to this wherever you are whatever your sports affiliation are Potentially your Kansas City chiefs won the super bowl and or potentially San Francisco Forty niners losses super bowl. So are sorry. We're sorry and only outscored forty six four eight nothing in four. Ot in the past two super bowls he's been in. Yes fun facts. Yeah so we're Patriots Fan so this neither of them really matter to us but something that was interesting and for the first time I think is the first first time that it's done four nights dreamer bowl so I thought was really cool. They had a bunch of different teams of really well. Known streamers paired with really well known professional athletes. They're all football players aren't they. Yes so you had like Yes they do the draft to their plan which was kind of interesting too which is tackle Juju Nick Merck's in Mike Evans. LUPO played with canal. Think The winning team was a belief. Click Search Cohen as the as a winning team. Yeah so I thought I mean I mean. I didn't get a chance to watch a lot of a lot of this I didn't get to really caught up on it much easier. So you're probably more more I. I didn't even watch live either. 'cause five and I gotta work at five. When don't I really don't turn on stream at homeboy? I went and washed like Tim Schram cream. 'CAUSE wash history my I also kind of like would watch the twits rival streaming tim knocked Outta is retaining so the they played four games All all the winnings went to charity to which is which could cost you four games. They forced the teams to drop a certain location in all all four games so the game went really quick in the really fast pace with plenty of action. Route the back Spot is Amelia. destler fighting on now how you have to sit there waiting. You know twenty thirty minutes for someone to find a date in a fire is just the job instantly go for it. Yeah that's Yeah is a UH is is pretty interesting Boo died like was one of the first person to die in like the first two games. I watch the Mike Damn kid you use up all your glory in the World Cup. I'm like I think it's probably more of a fact of the hot drop. The hot drives are probably more suited. Util- like Nick Merck's his drops. Snow terrible bill the first game. He's like I don't even know where he went but he couldn't find things so he's hiding a Bush into shot by tyler. Murray I think actually killed them to Arizona core back but he didn't have anything because he'd find anything. Yeah I think I think I think it's kind of interesting that events like this kind of really highlight how the game is much larger than just the actual fighting mechanics. Because because he's not dropping more he's comfortable. You know what I mean like the idea of dropping somewhere. You're comfortable where you know where the loot is knowing how you're going to rotate knowing how you're gonNA play certain locations you're gonNA push e couldn't rotate out of the area the either until they could all hear whistle blow really wants. Let's see here. I think it's like the sign of the storm moving. Maybe if they couldn't rotate added area until this whistle blew so they were not only where he did. You have to lay in the same spot. You had to stay fighting in that same spot until you heard that whistle could start rotating hoax man taking should show the progressive. A lot of fights happened like say no how good ask players just getting takeout instantly by people who probably wouldn't normally just the situation. Does everyone landing area exactly so I think I think it's interesting. You know you get the people who are like Oh my God. I could be a pro player when you're all Kinda when they all have to land in the same spot. But that's just kind of up to the luck of the draw whereas you give him the ability to land where he wants rotate how he wants. He's unstoppable. He's really good so I I think it's an interesting I I think looking at it that way. It's kind of interesting. You know when you take their ability to make choices like sort of out of the game you know. They're not they. Don't play the game quite as well as they normally would because they they would choose different routes different landing areas different rotation paths all that kind of stuff. I think that's interesting. I mean he's always the offer offer funds fucking out so you see you see in a lot of people go down by I I I like cry laughing because Tim the second game. They dropped Yup. He saw like two people go to areas. So you've got wicked agro and is pushed in and it clicks in three Cohen and he shooting Clicks Tariq this whips on them one one tax tax shotgun. Tim Speeches one click some out. I was like Oh Timmy. Bad Son used to kill by Tariq. That's great it is good when there was a lot of. I saw a lot of a lot of the pictures of because they got like announced they got. Like let's say you so you had you had your usual cringe moments. When they take streamers put them in a social situation really famous people people well who are used to being around football players and and a large scale where like not just not just gamers watching like a lot of people probably watching? Yeah they would they would line them up say you know. So and so and someone's opening together they'd walk to the Center and Muslim. Try do some data or some cool shit in ninety five percent of the time. It's just fell apart. Talk about four hundred something. Come on. Okay to Bruce movie is I mean is expected here we go again gamers like we're just uncoordinated Fox high five or DAB or something lying. Oh I think it's funny 'cause like some of them like people like Tim and Lupo they're very cool and calm and like chill kind of onstream. Twenty thousand twenty thousand thousands people or whatever and then I feel like even they're a little cringe when they get out until I think they're pretty good in the public. Tim is a fucking social guy. We I talked to him he could hang out with one room and a loop was the same way but those two had probably the worst Kian Allen. I don't know if his plan put the he did not do the fucking all. I was just like we saw those. It was pretty neat situation. But he they they. I had no idea what they were doing. Is No awful no chill not at all. That's funny yeah I I think that's interesting and it's just another. It's yet another I. It's yet another thing where you know gamers are getting brought into the mainstream limelight where you know famous. You know big time. Gamers are being brought in to the same room as other other big time. Celebrities who've considered quote unquote normal mainstream celebrities. And I really mean for the most part. It's only good for the for the gaming world world more is on it. More people recognize who the stars in gaming are When they put into events like this so I mean it's always good good in my mind? Yeah I would agree with that. I mean also Kaz Tehmina Beluga were both in commercials. Tim's uh-huh I guess teams like the very first one because I didn't really yeah because it was The commercial was this kid running the football and all of these old football players players. Tim I think he's only screaming. All these old new football players like you know. Take it to the House Kid. And he kept running and running running than the commercial transition into that kid in the commercial running on on the field to give the game ball to the REF so I didn't watch the beginning of the game so I missed that tonight. We wash it and that's where it was. It was sitting on a tractor. And he's like man. I got wheels. Yeah he's he's the first one to say he's on the tractor and he's like data the house. That's my favorite. Yeah I agree I. It's it goes to the fact it's good to see these. FAMOUS STREAMERS GIN put in the same category as celebrities. Like you said but the same time I don't like that it is only only for a streamers. Yeah that's true. I don't want people to bike. Oh what's this person do. And they tell them what they do. And then all the people who don't know what twitch or misery to gaming is you talk to them about like. Oh that's the platform where you can stream fortnight no no this is much bigger much better than just streaming for night. So I will say I do like that. They're getting spotlight. I wish they'd be more people in that. Weren't just for new. Yeah I mean the problem is really is the big game right now is still four nights. Yes yes that. He's the major issue because all the yeah because all the events are fortnight events events. So it's I get where you're coming from and I I agree with you But not everyone likes that game. You know anyone who's I've been listening to us for time absolutely hate that game. So yeah I I get coming from but you know where to get the money to secure the money to be able to have the events. It's got to be the hot shit and at still four-night unfortunately so it is what it is but I mean either way it is good would that they're getting out there. I mean Tim's Tim has been playing a lot of four nine. Luke does not paying playing a lot of four night either playing a lot of tar cough so hi it's like lately you know you know the man's extreme. Yeah exactly semi answers ain't Will Stream Thursday night football games when they when they do that so I'll see some might know him from that it's like oh he's the guy who cast Thursday football which is good so he kind of some. You might know that. Yeah Yeah Yeah so so the. NFL has definitely expanded. I mean when they started that streaming of Thursday night football us is cool. Now obviously they're bringing actual gaming like the Streamer Balso also fell is is realizing the benefits of a streaming and be against General Incorporate it more into the events which is particularly. Yeah I think so I think because some of the other the other professional sports should maybe take a look at it. I think really the only other one that it would work on a regular basis would be basketball Just kinda based on the on what basketball is in the personalities in in basketball. You know hockey. I don't think it works so well baseball. They're all kind of boring old men men even though they're not that's that's my opinion of baseball players. They all like they all have the personality of like dried bread and then basketball you got a lot. The big personalities A lot of stuff in basketball dream to in the offseason. Yes Simmons Karl Anthony. Towns can't remember some of the people I know what's his niece. Myer Meyers Leonard. Went they all stream the stream so that they would. They've been perfectly. I think it's interesting. I little side I know Trevor May Lake so he's a streamer he's also a baseball player he just put out a Jersey for like his streaming side of things. But it's like Bro. People have your are your MLB JERSEY. Like wonder is not enough. You need to jerseys but I just thought I was like come on now. I think it's all right. I think it's funny. Yeah so role four nights Schumer Bowl everything you know. All of that was pretty big weekend. I was pretty cool. They did something like this for the cod. The coddling kickoff as well what last weekend they had to postpone it because of Kobe's death breath but they did do something similar where they they had called players play against Basketball players. I think her just basketball players. Did you happen to see this I. I didn't write it down by. They had like a very similar situation. Where for the opening of Cod League officially opened? I Games where we're last weekend. So they did a similar like rivals like bowl thing like with. That was all cod. Cod Focus. Which I thought was pretty cool? I don't have all the information because I didn't really put it down but it was similar. So it's cool you know cod's kind kind of getting in there as well wasn't obviously to the level that the four nights rumor bowl was so you know. Take take that as you will. I guess so. WE'RE WAY UP. Yeah no it is Someone else or something else. That's working its way up Youtube Youtube is on the rise yet. Again we've talked about this a a lot and you know some of some of that Info that we talked about. It's not from US necessarily but we've always talked about you know we've talked about how how youtube is so poised to basically just demolished twitch if they ever wanted to get serious or or if they ever were going to turn the corner exactly could actually just take really good run out them. They could take a lot big chunk of twitches share away. I think they're starting to make they're move snagging up some big content creators like you know they hit courage they got him. I think so You know one hundred creators who you you can arguably say are are on the top of the list of creators you know a hundred. These organization is probably the most well known organization to non Gamers. I you know it's not the most famous organization known by Gamers but it's it's probably the best well known one outside of gaming so that's pretty big for YouTube So the other thing that recently happened essentially as they snagged activision slash blizzard league exclusivity for streaming so that covers a overwatch league and cod league. So those things those two leagues will be streamed exclusively on Youtube so nothing on twitch you go to you know the Leagues Youtube Channel or Kabulis Youtube channels. And if you want to watch the Games. That's where they're going to be exclusively for are you know. I'm assuming they probably like a three year deal. I didn't happen to look you know what the actual length is. ASSUME THEY DO for a couple of years. Yeah I mean I think this is somewhat along the lines of what we guest would be Kinda next moves in in the street similar worse from the last episode we kind of talked about how orange like hundred thieves might somehow sign or be endorsed by certain platforms. So I think this is kind of along the same lines or we're not talking about these These platforms going for single people. But they're going for like a collection of people you know whether it's an older League Sarah Eric Cetera. So I think it's definitely kind of next step like yet. These single people have about we move up to groups and get more get more people in your Moore's Arise on it. So it'll be interesting to see. I will say you know like a watch league. I enjoyed watching it but it wasn't like you know. Ninja would when he's on twitter Ninja without stream or watch their massive things but it is definitely still a very good. I think for Youtube. Oh for sure. Yeah I oh I think it's you know I if anything I think. It's like a testing the waters type scenario. Like hey you know yeah. These are big to some people bill but overall you know they're like you said you know Ninja out streamed Overwatch League when he was streaming on twitch so they're big to the people who care about it but they're not like they're not the next level big that everyone's watching all the time but I think it's a good for a to be like Iran. Get these leagues. Like we'll see you know there are more is on youtube as a whole whole anyways so people who might not ever really go to twitch to begin with their bras and Youtube for the fuck of it they happen to be gamers. They happened like over watching. They see like a thing like overwatch. The League Oh okay so they may get more gamers day they just have more search ability. I guess the way that they can get the product in front of the eyes of of people. I think works better than which can so I think for them. It's a it's a low risk option option or it's a low risk plan but I think you know as apoe snagging up two leagues that are that have been around for a long time as opposed to kind of try to start a new new league. is a much much smaller risks. So I think for them to relatively low low risk investment. They're going to see how it pans out. I I do think that it is a big move for them I think they're kind of at that point where they're going to start making their turn you know they're gonNA start turn the corner and they're gonNA start putting the jets on released squeezing twitch twitch is hold Roy squeeze them tight to to to basically overtake them I. They're they're poised for it. It's it's going to happen. I mean I watched I watched raise youtube video of why she switched youtube one of the things she mentioned. Oh it's really nice is to have all my things. Have all my stuff on one platform we've been saying added times and you know it's not like we're the we're the first ones to say that but the idea is like if two idiots like us can see that then then creators with massive Publishing teams agents behind them. They were going to see that just as easily as we can. So yeah just make sense to have everything in one area. So every stream around there does videos youtube so why not just stream there to me the more the thing about it. I just kind of thing about this way. You're talking. I think this is actually a pretty good move. By like it's more thing about Aussie go for Ray Inigo for courage. You know they're going to be in good creators have on on her channel. But now you're like okay hookah for next like you don't want you don't want to spend money on someone that I guess isn't washed by law people or you don't really know how they'll transition to your platform so instead go for a League because because you know there are die-hards out there these Pacific game so it's like okay instead of guessing on a streamer and hoping that their fans come back over to us. Let's go for a league. That we know has a dedicated diehard fans. You know people like oh I'll watch over watch like oh it's over on youtube okay. I will go there yes number seven and then from there. It's guess youtube platforms job to kind of on key. People there get them interested in other streamers on their platform and kind of taking away from twitter completely. Yeah Yeah for sure and I think I think one added benefit. Is You know the players say coddling for example like the players like One in nature teammates. He's on the huntsman. You know if if they can show statistically that viewership is up like thirty percent while it's being broadcast on youtube versus what it was on twitch that's incentive alone for the street or to be like Maybe I'll sign with youtube like viewership for the League is opt on up as a whole you know maybe if I make the switch you know. Oh it'll be a little rock at the beginning but my ship is a whole will go up because you know I it. Just it's is you know it's all about is if there's more is on one platform an act can be shown with hard numbers than who's going to WHO's going to refute that they're going to want to jump on it. I think I saw this. I'm WHO's come up great ideas. He doesn't think law so sit down like this and actually think you know his brain actually does work. It's it's it's pretty powerful so you're on youtube right or you're on you to your in the colleague Overwatch League on Youtube Gaming. Say You pop off and someone out there watching Shen likes this person like Oh man. So and so's Reagan the team and it's like among washing livestream. It makes more sense. I guess this this these leagues. He's be on youtube kind of adds pressure to these streams back. Wow do I want to stay on twitch or do I want him to Youtube. Where said person watching stream if they like how I play? It's probably a lot easier for them to find them on Youtube because that's where they are right now. They're on youtube watching the league. So obviously they're gonNA start typing in their name on youtube opposed like okay. Well let me go search on twitch so I think it can not even that like if Youtube get their shit dialed in and get their interface really taking care of these we we can click on the screen exactly chain. You'd have cod league playing in the window. And then next to the window you have the channels for each of the players players that are on all bowl teams basically just a function. That's a function. The streamers would have starting be discovered so much easier if I ice cream youtube because the the people watching this league if they find me they liked me on popping off they can just filter the way right to my channel watching the league post if there on twitch the did they might not get fat in their champion because a person might not have known by not think to look on twitch or the resources. Yeah Yeah they could just get filtered right to the channel. Yeah I mean I think. That's like the most ingenious way to do it. It's just you know you have your game. The League playing in one game and then instead of like suggested videos on the side this would be Strictly free for the League's. Instead of suggested videos you would have you know roster roster channels so it'd be like you know all the Chicago Huntsman's players there's they're all of Atlanta phases players below that and now a you could just go and click on there the player that you like you saw someone clutch like the Three v one. You like fuck. That guy's really good and you go and you find him. You Click on his channel and boom. You're right there. I think it's it the possibility and we talked. We talked the last of the possibilities for you to our endless like. They're right there as long as they can. Make the changes to the. Ui Make the changes to finding people. Let her live like if they can make those changes they're going to destroy twitch. I think yeah the more the more I keep thinking about this more these these leaks Nag ups are low. Low key be huge place. I think I was thinking about it gets is a great get. I think it's GonNa might not translate right away but I think in the U now I think in the second year of the deal next year next leagues. I think That's when you're really gonNA see Kinda the boost or the fruits of the Labor. You know if you WANNA say it that way. If they do these innovative kind of if they can change they can ask. Thanks yeah they they definitely need to revamp it live streaming area for sure. If they if they can do that. Then they're they're primed and ready to go. Yep I agree with you. Yeah so that's pretty much all the big stuff with Youtube I kinda wanted to end the show on something near and dear to our hearts there is talk of a nights of the analyst rumors. Talk One that Collar of Knights of the Old Republic Remake reboot whatever you want to look at got it so if anyone's unfamiliar with what nights of the old republic our first of all shame you need to leave this podcast right now and go wicked. Yeah Yeah go look up coach or and if you get your hands on them on steam you need to go play both Koto wanting couture too because you're doing yourself disturbance by posit right right now in this. Go play those games. I don't care if it takes a sixty hour seventy hours eighty hours. Whatever it is once you finish playing those games? Come right back to this episode at this moment. In Time and starring. Yeah I think I'm super excited but a little hesitant at the same time. I think the only way they're going to do it as it's going to be a reboot clean remove old nights the older public old knights of the old public For the xbox was cannon to star wars at that time but now that Disney sense dizziness bought them it basically invalidated all of that as cannon so none of that was cannon wants Disney bought them so they couldn't they can't do a like a remastered they can't really do a nights republic three they. Kind of have to reboot it. I think in my mind which is fine. Because in Um after the rise skywalker released they've always add supplemental info like in books in Hallo- Crohn's quote unquote and they've canonized revon arrived. And they've Kanye's a couple of other people from that era like mental or the gray who is demanding Laurean. That ran fought You know the the man delorean leader that Revenue Malik formed. The army's against to go fight which is kind of what led revenue and Malik down the path to the dark side. Even there were Djeddai when they did it so yeah. So they've they've canonize a good. You know some some major players of that time and so I think if it happens it's going to be a complete reboot which I'm okay with as long as Disney doesn't fuck it. I mean really I mean look at look at the most recent movies mean and Kathleen Kennedy Yourself. She's the executive producer user of Star Wars for Disney. She said you know it's hard making movies with no source material. You fuckers throughout all the source material when you bought Lucas F- Lucasfilm. This film like there was so much extended universe Canon. There was so much extra lore and Nevada. That Shit You you evaluate it at all so it's your fault that there's no source material to go off from one. There was plenty of source material. Now there isn't I think they really need it to be helmed by people who are passionate about the game like they did respond so rant. Yeah I hope it's one I hope it comes out to. I hope it's on right. Just fucking take the game. How exactly was and just remake? It I mean I could. I could get down on that. You WANNA complete new. I don't know about new I. I'm okay with an expanded retailing. I guess of of the I game. I don't want it. Verbatim mean yet. Very lease a be down for them is remake it as it was because I love that game so much I would be down going on if if it's the same story but if they if they can tweak it and add to fucking it over I think it was I think with the power of the consuls counsels in the the the size limitations that are you know. It's the size limitations of the game back. Then you know they're going to be able to add so many more hours into this game and you know I pretty much beat that game completely and it took a long time so I think adding many more hours to God. Ah I love that game. No single player turn based combat game has ever stood next to coach. Never know game is held a candle to co tour. And I know there'll be a lot of people they're dragging each fuck dragon age. Fuck you play Dragon Age. I Played Dragon Age origins origins and Dragon Age. Three or whatever the hell was called I I liked the fantasy aspect of but it star wars. I mean come on sours is a better law so it's always better at always better as long as it's done right and so yeah I think expanded retailing. It's going to have to be a reboot but with what they've done to canonize some of those major players. I think they can do it very similar. To how the original story was I hope it comes out. I hope this isn't live near the. This rumor has been floated around many many times in the past few years. They've always been like we're going on tour game and everyone gets their heart and their coach Warren then like We were just kidding about that. Thought coming the first time I saw the spores by pretty good. was there info. I mean but a coach were remakes. been bounced around. I feel like once a year every year for the hassle. Five years excessive. How yes with fallen order order order? Damn these Games are really hitting US so why not bring back the best one that was probably may i. That's what I hope I. I hope that's the case and I hope that they're really going to put some effort into it. I mean that's that's pretty long rant. I I love I love this game. mm-hmm it's like it is one of my most favorite games. I think in our very first so we talked about like our top five games or top. Three Games coach. War is number one on my canoeist by far. So yeah I I I give very passionate about this game because I just I loved it so much and I really want them to do it justice when they do it it again if they do it again so I mean I guess. Spoilers case hasn't played but it just the reveal of your character is when that happened as like what yes offer exactly and such a job with the story you did whatsoever surprise. I was just blown away one game that like the the story just blew my bucket. You kept kept you and you're like what you can't find anything. Just wait okay. So what does that mean. You're like finding more things than finding more things and playing the game or I'm like. Oh my God oh what. What's this? What yet and even with all that Info you know the twist came along you know what the fuck like I i? I couldn't I couldn't believe it when it happened. Yeah I was like Holy Shit so yeah. They're very very passionate very heated about that game. Because it's fantastic is good. I'm not joking about getting it on seem it is on seem. I have one and two on my computer. I just can't stand the shitty graphics so it's like hard for me to play back through it and there might be Maude and asset sale way back in the day. I think I bought it on. My computer died so don't have anymore but I do have a haven't really played much of it which it's it's something to be said for. The graphics like the graphics are so bad outweighs the good story so it is xbox. God yes sweet so wonderful well wrapped bitch up GONNA make dinner. I am stopping so wonderful. Well that's episode thirteen in a nutshell folks really enjoy these episodes. 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"What's the matter smells him talking hopefully joy into stable? That's okay I'm never coming back to this. People Know Dove Weekday Begotten Bryan. Sir You have a micro combats day empathic lease transcribing yet. Opec brilliant. I need them so How much thrown out by you with us. Like what you buddy financing. Jimmy smells like walkies off. Pick he's tried before. Yes believe a big bucket of evil. Opiates Kaffee Hans via face. The facing elise those contel paint creepy. No money not PARKA. Five capris cream eggs. The work of generations is complete. Look great era is corrected. The day of Victoria's Day off the day of the sixth good to be speakers. Yes podcast bringing you news review of all only welcome to episode forty six of radio for Yandell up. You'll add a fantastic Christmas and a great new year while it's ward season and the UK Baptists. Were just on. And we will co. That's in the news but all my hopes on the Oscars with Joan Williams for the win with his awesome score for the rises skywalker but talking about episode nine. It's been out for a while and I was wondering how many times have you all been to see it. While we have the Great Montigny boat offense tracks back to talk about the rise of pulps. Oh sorry the rise of Skywalker and the leaks about Colin cheval goes episode nine jeweler the fates but it will all have to wait. Let's head over to the news I into a lot Disney Young Bob. I guys confirmed that. The Mouse House is not rushing Scott Nova stall so into production anytime soon in the wake of the release of star wars the rise of sky. Welcome for five star. Wars films have been hit in the four year period and did last December the brandies now taking a break for a few years likely until twenty twenty three speaking during a recent investors cold. I says Lucasville is still developing television and features for the franchise book moves off the table for now on the stalls front where taken the bits of isis in terms of the African release. The prior to stall was in the SCHOLTZ. I miss go to be television. Disney plus then we will have more to say about the development theatrical soon after that in other words don't expect any more movement on the Star Wars in the cinema but it will be popping up on Disney plus which won't be happening for a good while aside fundamental Orien- season two in October approached the casino endure and the obi-wan-kenobi Serious on going to be filming into June will January next year. And so we'll be going on until sometime. Wellington Twenty Twenty one by revealed this news as part of the Disney studios earnings call and he also confirmed the via third season after the second season has been filmed for the mandatory but also the news came. It revealed the new streaming service has already amassed stolen twenty six point five million subscribers by the end of December last year currently sits on twenty eight point six million as of Monday holy moly. That's a lot of subscribers and just think how that's GonNa and don't wants the UK getting on. I'm GonNa get it are you here in the UK we have the BAFTA awards bit like your Oscars in the states and this year Kathleen Kennedy was awarded the BAFTA Fellowship Award. He's Run Highness. Prince William presented the award to Catherine Canada so there was a little bit of her friends speaking about her and then the ward solicitor quit. Listen and now we've come to the Fellowship Award and presented. It's a very special guest. We're incredibly lucky to have a mural though in fairness he only lives across the road please welcome the Royal Highness His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge evening everybody one of the great privileges I have. Presidents is resented the fellowship the highest on the academy campus. Oh this year. The award goes to simply legendary figure in film someone whose films have been washing my life. I continue to watch time and time again. I couldn't be happier. She's receiving this award to tell you more about her remarkable career please. Welcome Daisy Ridley Jumbo. Egger seventy feature films to her name and an impressive careers finding a forty years. Kathleen Kennedy has been described as an inspiration. A trailblazer under visionary has produced some of the most iconic cherished and celebrated films of the last three decades in reaching the cinema. Going experience cufflinks has been the recipient of numerous awards along the way but personally and for the film she lovingly produces many of our productions short here in the UK as she has referred to the UK as a second home and it was on one of those wonderful films. I was fortunate enough to meet Catholic in which we begin big journey which included three films. And I also met daisy experienced firsthand. The sense of belonging at Star Wars Kathleen is setting a precedent both to those around her half our team at Lucasfilm a female and on a global scale playing multidimensional heroin. Ray in solves has been incredible. Kathleen help create a role which has been instrumental in embracing inclusivity in film. She has worked with many legendary directors and Harry's longtime collaborators to say a few words Hi Kath and congrats on your BAFTA fellowship. I know how this was for me to join the likes of our hitchcock. And Laurence Olivier and Maggie Smith and Elizabeth Taylor Judy dench chaplain Fellini and now a candidate. This name has found its rightful place in cinema history because of your artistic and managerial contributions to it and I am so proud to say I knew from the very beginning of our adventures and moviemaking for forty one years. I've been blessed to count you as a collaborator partner. And most important to me. My dear dear friend so enjoy this rare honour made even more fitting since we have made so many movies in the UK. We are nearly British and in that spirit. I lift this glass and say cheers. Oh this is real this is going to be gender okay. I don't drink champagne but for you. I will so the first thing I was going to say is I really didn't recognize you your Royal Highness. You're not in your stormtrooper fit inside. But we did have a nice visit. It has been amazing tonight to see the quality of films to be reminded of what this word fellowship means. It was interesting to me that I thought that it was a word that really did note. So much of what? I appreciate about filmmaking. And I entered the fellowship of filmmaking with my first trip to England when we filmed raiders of the lost Ark also where I met my husband Frank Marshall and fellowship mentorship. I think go hand in hand and I was incredibly fortunate to have two of the most incredible mentors in Steven Spielberg and George. Lucas and in my work was star. Wars now what we're doing here in the UK that fellowship continues through the mentoring work we're doing with the BFI and BAFTA as we create more opportunities for voices and new talent to work alongside the legacy talent that began here in the UK over forty years ago and will continue to be our home people. Define this fellowship. People and stories are what have always driven my love of film. I thank you for this award and I thank you for the chance to look back and to appreciate the people and the fellowship. I share this honour with tonight. Thank you very much very well. Deserved that is. She's done a lot of films. In my childhood. We have grown up with might not agree with the way. She's treated star wars now boats. She deserves it. She's very good PA- Jason and she also mentioned that Indiana Jones five will be a continuation and nuts a reboot now his one more interview with From the BBC on our way out of the baptist. Congratulations how does it feel to be for this big night? Very exciting very exciting. I mean look the the people that have been involved in this award. It's a bit intimidating. I have to Miss Great Buddy away. A couple of much-loved maybe series people might have heard that somewhere along the life. And do you have these movies? Look at your career and think what you've achieved but I think that is what happens when you're acknowledge like this. I don't really think that but then when I was asked would you like to accept the fellowship. It did cause me to sort of step back and reflect and think about what's going on all these years. We don't tend to do that unless something like this. Come very quickly universe constantly expanding so many options. We're right in the midst starting. Talk about where it's all going. It's pretty exciting. You wouldn't tell us a thing. Thank you so much right. Nice even enjoy tonight thanking also in the News Joe Williams wins his twenty fifth grammy for Stalls Galaxy's edge symphonic suites. We didn't spend the score for the spectacular symphonic suites after being inspired by Disneyland Theme Park Attraction and with makes music history with a grammy woodwind so the legendary film composer John Williams took home the award for best instrumental composition of the sixty second Grammy Awards hosted by Alicia Keys in Los Angeles staples setup. This award went to Williams forty five years after the eighty seven year old won his first Grammy Award as fifty eight years after his first on. The Nation cements any status as one of the most successful composes in music history. The less of a better. Listen to the school from galaxies h Long Oh Wow I just had to play downfall because each gets me all tingle your over thinking that I'm GonNa be there this year. In September com white also at the grammys Williams also received a nomination for best arrangement and instrumental for his enchanting version of hey quits theme which recorded with Virtuoso violence and Sophie Mutter and you can hear that now just You the not greats from Harry Potter of course up. That's just so I can get catacomb. Wait to go well this year because become Tiraspol weld as well right. You can find that track on an album with an sophie mutter and Joe Williams code across the stars and go on Youtube Music. You find it on there as well as I tunes and Amazon prime no end of. I'll tell you what I'll stick a link in the show notes. How's that that brings us to the end of the news? Now if you WANNA find out anything else about the news the scarring on galaxy far far away. What did you head over to fat subtracts Royal News in a galaxy far far away? Now let's head over to the cargo. Hold and speak to my good friend. Mark Newbold offense attracts with me is the fantastic mark. Newbold Fanta treks eatery mark on very well Miami You know may always taken a long always looking for the latest star wars bargains online or on facebook marketplace over marketplaces or available. Yeah that's so Stolz. The Riser Skywalker has been out some time mark. And we've both seen a lot of times what did you what did you initially think of it. Initially I was very pleased with enjoyed it. It was a spectacle. It's always little things for me. That the TYPIC- WHOA may or the other performances were really great. That wasn't a huge amount of things that nickeled may again. It's always the little silly Nigga by the music was gorgeous. Unloved the south and I think. Jj because JJ brought this cast together or go to say. I think he directs these axes better than this in the sandbox. Horrible DIG at Roy. Go this directed these actors but but I do think. Jj gets the best of these actors you know. There's there's a lightness of touch when he's needed dramas. These needed a preferred the characters in the first and third film Because let's not dark. It's a tough. It's a tough film going through troubling times. Obviously so much I mean there is humor instead. It's to me and I'M GONNA make my regular analogy is the difference between starts at four and five mutual fund. You get one of the main thing you know on a site just before we started recording of of sending off times now and I like it as much if not more certain the more I see it. Only you know when I'm very aware we all la you know you're on social media about Somali. You sail the criticisms type the more on board and do you know. Do get where people are disappointed. We set elements. But there's just enough about it the I it's not bothering Mayton enough to might be doesn't work for me. Yeah you know I could see where they could have run things or do or go to say. I wish it had been to films instead of one. Big should have been caught one and bought so no doubt. You know I'm really I am happy. I wish he'd done better at the box office. I in a billion dollars stolen just going to set. That was one of my points that was going to bring the on Forbes. They've got just hit one billion. Which is I think it's slower than the than the previous films to get to one billion because you've got like a finches Endgame literally hit one billion two days after it was released in animate. Yeah your back. In the day. Though mark for film to hit one billion there's only four six films effort on the billions. The four sit film to make a billion so so it's in rarified air and it still won't fight weight so it's still gonNA bring money and he's about thirty million behind rogue one so he's probably GonNa just about catch rogue one but this has Lima. Las See a lot of people getting annoyed. Ba- folks digging is it because it's only made a billion I'm not saying it's a flop because he's made a billion eight it's Just comparing it historically to Jeddah took more money than employee and system moment than clones. You know it's just this stall. We saw the first one is the biggest third phones. The second-biggest just historical things like that. All I really did think that this film's going to do so. Jurassic World beneath a one point. Six billion calling really confident that he would just just. Titova the billion and it's just like old of the films are from Force Awakens. Which just based. I was a real anomaly. H really slowed down quickly. She's disappointing losing screens. And those films are coming along. That's just the nature sound Blue Rain April. So you know everybody will but I'm not. I'm not saying it's a flop as don't definitely not saying it's a fluffy snuff flip but but considering the last ever Scalia Saga film you know. I thought it would do more than he has. But yet lawyers. I stood billion dollars. He's one of the big movies ever you know but compared to the previous films it's it has all he would say yes he has an perform. Yeah Yeah Yeah like you say for billion dollars is under performed for me. When I first saw him he was just a nonstop hallmark awed. They go for it all the way through and you know I lost my cash with it. Now really did. This was this was ace and Mussoorie. He was he was really taken by. Who was great mighty criticism for my first screen was that You can tell that just gone last Jedi I. It never happened and there was a lot of that middle the. Jj says he didn't do the the middle finger to the last year. I you could tell he date. Not only you can really tell you that but me problem was even though I hated the Lush Jed. I it happened right yes there so I would have liked to have seen a film that would carry on with the the stories that that created bear in mind that Ron Johnson didn't do any of that with force awakens. Did they have all those plaza so? Jj was stuck in in a row that yet to get all these plateaus originally created in the false awakens the Sunni you know flourish in the rise of Skywalker like the Knights of. They didn't really do much that you just poses on a hill. Yeah Yeah if you if you think that Whole three films they would've had soon to to you know you. You would have seen 'em really as the bad guys. Not I mean if they if they featured in the middle film to me the only thing they these films put together is is Made me think about was that I didn't really care for any of the characters are that seems weird. Don't know like I think it's because they would your splits off for so long. It's only really this film that they're together where the original trilogy together from the beginning when they really get what you may not employer that they're not together that which. Uh spokesman Jed are they certainly come together in this definitely similarities? And she stole was. He's building the team his name. See how for the first four minutes of new hope. So you get back. I in terms of of ignoring I get what you mean but then a lot of criticism of last year was that he didn't follow on well from for Force Awakens and all. The Room is seventy rumors. The rumors JADA PLAN FOR RAISE LINEAGE. And not go security less jet oil in Colin trevorrow steps away from said knowing because he wants to stay alive and wants to be known all that stuff. So there's lots of ups and downs. I think the big problem with this trilogy a like the carriage mostly because the axes moving easy that makes One thing that seems to have come out on Social Media. I mean really as we speak today. The two Varo scripts and the images from floating around the Internet and everyone all of a sudden from Collins Uvira beans of misogynistic Nasi because he won't eat At bryce Dallas Howard's what he didn't actually was her decision to weigh hails Jurassic World And that certainly seems of sexiest if that was her decisions and actor Hayes and everyone was ooh coach so glad he's gone and now all of a sudden today it's like. Oh can you imagine if we send the travel version of star was he suddenly become some mythical you know what a Carranza which are typical of social media taste to look to assume you know what I mean I would have looked too tight on it? It's like the prequels and I'm I'm still working around the pre. Who's a weird way? I think the thing that might see retailer better than any other trilogies that you do have three different lenses on it. You know you've got mark wind. You've got Kirsch you've got Louis. Because I think the sequel trilogy sorry the Prequel Trilogy would have benefited from having three different directors. Quite honestly and this trilogy. Okay I love so I can wasn't sad to say Jiji Bob but it would love to have sin the calling trevorrow version of episode nine in the same way the if only Kurt stayed around and we divided Gary Kurtz producer tends yet because I think it would have been very different so all these wife's and if only I think one thing that's happened with with this trilogy is it's might people look the prequels which has always been bashed for the last twenty years and for no good reason and they kind of appreciate it more on. I think it's mostly because the one. Because of the sequel trilogy is that they clearly wasn't a plan when I sat around. Lucas Rookies version of seven and had notes on. I knowing from what we understand and JJ took it and changed it. Lucasville wasn't thrilled about that. You know seven and then Lucasville allow him to hand it off to the next call. I was just happened to be Ron Johnson and Johnson. This impression this is how it goes to me personally. Mock you know as they didn't say Roy these in the discount way to go because this is where we want to go they just went by I h through. You won't yeah you know. And then Ron Johnson writes were heroes and then judge is GonNa come in and always say. Hey Hey Hattie zone of where it would go nights annoying and probably made notes and Colm completely Within his rights Ron Johnson has gone now on the director. These androids and this is how I want to do it. No-one sat there and said well. You need to stick to these guidelines. He's just been given a blank page. See Complement Ron Johnson. For doing what he did yeah And then jj you can't blame him. Forgotten Malino has to do three or you know I mean it comes across the the big twist that might knowing work. And that's all arguable. Because some people don't like it was the into the emperor about for me. As as a finale gnawing movies makes all the sense in the world. But if you're a young fan that's kind of coming on the break. I'm the sequels rather help saying he slot. And what about smoke? You know what I mean. Who cares that's old but it's not if you look into nine films it's more pertinent than who? Who Else could it be? You know So I think if my people look at the sequels prequels kick in the sequels and Brid. I don't look at the PREQUELS and go we'll at least yours had a plan. You know he knew. He knew he was going with funds. Somebody knew how to get closed. Because that was the clone wars and he knew that was and he knew that he was going to end up on on. The Lava Planet invited everyone. We're GONNA fall so he knew he had the white points yet mockus to fool and it's difficult film. Revenge of the. Cfo thinks fast the underwriting film because it is ending on a on a Downer you know this is a squawk of I mean. The big spark of hope agenda is own Baru. We'd Lukin layer in their homes. Look Roth Lucan that. I was looking at the twin sons which is kind of how we finish how film I absolutely love revenge of. I was among element when I first saw them absolutely. Yeah Yeah you know. We've had three fat-free endings to start with Ning sith was an initiative. We'd never read anything after. See if you've been satisfied and now if I didn't know the trilogy in now and I'm so glad before I mean when always like twelve injured came out and I remember then talking to friends who were Star Wars Madden saying. Did you ever see seven-night night? Oh yes coming out in nineteen ninety four and all the silly room. Zsa honestly thought we were going to get seventy not now with hat seventy nine and they're in the books and gone you know so. I'm pleased that we got that. I really am. Yeah yeah the same Disney. Well get this. There was no plan they have in. Something tells me that That you know because of Ryan Johnson Killing Snow. Cov that letter. No bad guy for for the facetious season for episode nine right so so he was put into a corner and he's thinking how can we do it? And that throwaway line foam revenge of the sick force is way too many of these considerate. Yeah well I I the emperor's back but my mind was county. Did he survive that that hoke cloning. Okay all right fair enough then then started thinking. Who did he get Tom? Tough a kid who went to have time to do that. Well you know about that because I look I look at how in Brasco Walker and only think on a nation just headcount was was what you back to. Phantom menace tack of closure vendor the especially menacing clones and you think what does Citius and the emperor are obviously physically the same. I think Roy's of Scott Walker to some degree throws into doubt. Wouldn't an especially when you see the snow in the in the planning to you? Yeah which of course is easily excitable because of Kameido and all that I'll just look at that. And I think the clone of how pertain overall the palpitations. You see with the white noise and the reason doled stuff looks morlock. Looks more like how could sane as a really old man than the emperor does that make sense? It looks looks just suck really really really old ragged old. You know how the heads this thing's still alive old man and of course when he sucks the life energy out Ryan Coil the Geo ad or the Rav then he turns into Palestine calling that we knew from Jeddah so I just wanted to. I think there's something in now. I do think that maybe help saying that were. There wasn't just one policy because if he can move spirit between one body and another. Yeah which he's Conway's I of all the safe right has acute lawn belong. All the Djeddai knows his grandma. You just wonder whether he could do something what I switch between bodies or I don't see it all is that you know we really. We really went big in especially in the last Jedi Luke. Sort of real time sending. He's essence across the galaxy. You know when you think in our no spice fancying people he's just. He's just a fairytale or not stalls hangs together because there is so coin defy logic star. Trek you'd meets explain it but stalls doubt but they're still going to be so kind of logic to it. You know so I could go on forever about hosting system. I quite liked that idea. Actually what you just put that say it could be two people and it took wont to die for his estimates to transfer to the to the next body so he's always got one in storage if you could say yes so that Salvatore the RAG Alka with that but I'll tell you what the way they could easily solve like saul join up. Slightly is by an over the the new series of the Monday Laurean. I have heard Mental Orient Hereby Right. You've got character in that is from Camino so you know so kind of clone and is gone. Wouldn't it be good if they just you know. Once the cameras panning ice you just saw Heo. Don was that the empress it in a jaw. Happy so cool. And then you gotta be. They've got now Lucas Film. I mean obviously go three years till the next film math. Yeah so I wish these films have been three is about to be honest when we would cates especially when we were kids but even in a twenty s when the prequel trilogy was coming out you have three years to really not just in the film on. I'm going to see a couple of songs again before because of the cinema and then I'm going to have it on DVD. But in the meantime Darko GonNa release all these comics and downright imbalances or whatever can release all these books and it would know podcast. By then particularly websites there was no social media. But you know you knew that in that time you had all that time to chew over and really to date into it. Yeah now with Diane. Just everything feels like. He's GonNa come out so fast they so you know or is it. A silly example considering Disney Lucasfilm has done for eight years. Now you know back in the DI- Disney would release classics at relation at the Cinema. Every seventy as you'd see when Joulwan Dalmatians every seven years and then the release video and it'll be out for a few months and then they'd put it in the Disney volt for seven years then white seventy s but it was always seventies and they would be very judicious about how much exposure they gave to those classic films because they wanted to reintroduce it to renew generation of every seven or eight years in an such a clever way to do business because all the new stuff was fresh. But you knew those classes. We're GONNA roll around again now. The world has changed and DVD's streaming digital. It can't do that anymore. But with Star Wars thought while marvel this ankeny out three or four films a year. And they've got that taking over like poet market cap and they've got to really work hard to screw that up. Sure I will at some point mall before you go out of crap but I haven't seen one yet you know certainly not in the last nine years stall was. He's like yeah. Bring ast film if be three years. It's a monster. Major cultural events in the star wars film comes out that they got it wrong to the degree that Solo came out and most people didn't even know it was coming out. Roy's skull Qaeda's no TV appetizing minimal billboard. You know just kind of you know you think Joe Joe Robbie annoys add more markets in episode Moina Service. Lots of missteps in Teiken with stall was it's it's completely the jewel in the crown. Marvel definitely now. Is The box office king? In that respect marvel films are GonNa take more than style was just how it is at stall was ace. Justin to the franchise now is not ahead of ahead of the curve lock. It was in academic because stall was created this blockbuster franchise environment so because knocking at least at least to fill me in east. Just the blockbuster film. And if they don't mark it sit out crazy push it and and get the extra element of quality and everything else that nate and it will just sort of slide back into the packs dollars fill out. Yeah you know what I mean you whereas the mentally and on television fresh new number one film. Tv Show in the world for lot two months. Yeah but that one's raving about that feels like proper star wars the gentleman it just like Classic Star Wars and it certainly seems that the people behind the camera have Thought out the plan where it's going. Maybe took notes of light cannon. Maybe so also every think seems familiar. Even though the show in places that are not well apart from you know tattooing spoilers. Fox's so good right yeah. I was so happy when the solar droids even you know I was put like you a genetic time and you saw something that was a reference reference to the stall. You know to previous references that cliff there. That's where Lucan and it'd be one in. The land speed would look at Mossy anxiously. Then they rely wed was. That knows what a long time ago and I got right. But Tha that's what made I love that. I just love that show up. Binge did enter times again again and when it comes down on blue rates. I'll whacky my money down for that. But but let's go a plan and you could say on what came together it up people behind the camera. Absolutely love the franchise this one. They didn't and like you say you know the the riser skywalker allied to say the double cross. Oppo PATINE right right. That's to me. That was to films that walls to films Dow and it has to be three episodes. Why cone and just go to ten just ran off at ten could easily donate Ryan. The and the other thing which I think was a missed opportunity. Mark was they own Twentieth Century Fox now so I could not have the thirteenth century folks theme tune before they are especially it being the last one. Would it be right? There was a public rolled into it and they didn't man loads of people get ready all see about that one in certain like me. You know that that would always ask when I was a kid. You heard the Fox News in and it didn't matter what you will watch. It literally didn't matter what you what you could be watching sounding music. It didn't matter. You heard that Fox intro and you thought starves dog was yeah so to me you know you say you hear not music hit the and Lucasfilm limited production and all that the timing of it just everything about it and then he goes quiet longtime ago and then the fanfare comes in completely of the failed to the point that when people have said no he's not go. Did you buy the soundtracks in the ninety s and especially this? Because I'm pretty sure that the Fox fanfare the soundtrack to me? Yeah the truck. One on the special edition since trump won. I think on the previous ones as well. So He's track one. I was a pretty easy stall was but oh well it's well it's over now it's done with and that's how you are. Now that was his culture guy ran to say. Is Ron Johnson? Coming back for another star wars to Nova Zola's Ginette may now outside. Yeah welcome bring him back if he's if he's if he's going to start a whole new film totally independently about some the yet bring it. I'll I'll watch it now mean great. Yeah I've got no problem with him. Making films is just that when he had to do a sequel to somebody else's film a down on his face like you say blank canvas. This is Harry. Donate give him something way. It is literally starting from scratch. Then let go you know. He's a great artist. You know what I mean. That's when when he was announced in mark. How do I really enjoyed it? Shows up are waiting to see. I think we even checked it about say you know getting A. He's he's still some pretty good. Finish the either especially in lieu of some of the some of the Bits loophole lot. Wow Jamie and he's having such a good run success with knives outright now yet bring him back bring it back. And it's like We've talked about Colin Tha Varga at Vulgar August. Yeah and you know. We talked about it but About him especially how you we said for umbrella you were as good as your last film. And he's film was a cool den. Um what was that? One is really good but you slide really low budget one of. Yeah Oh we told me dig. Retorts for yeah the name of it but yes yup was really enjoyed that film and and everyone was like look at that. That was crap now the maintenance no no no no no no no. He's this is his baby. That was his baby. Wrote it. Bring it lengthy you know what he's still with with Drowsy Park even that's That shorts that were so good the battle of the FI. Yeah you know the Battle of rock rock topos in romantic. Yeah Yeah He. He likes it that Theodore today. And that you'd definitely wrote it and while I think it was good I looked in So you know for Disney to renovate. It's like net in your years. They did years Galasso by it. Didn't go down to especially now with all this new stuff that's coming out and you get your matching alternative universe time mark that's am on in. December. You was going to see stalls episode nine jewel of the face juice. La that title while jewel of the face. And you know I've listened to a COUPLA podcast about The script 'cause they only had a couple of pages to work from within they when it was a late. I'm not too sure if the rest of as is now out there I can't think he would be especially with Disney on the on the trail of it but Sam these concepts images like what you were talking about absolutely gorgeous and you can't help but feel that funds would've wanted that because it was it seemed right to go back to Carson Janata main everything. Cannes film seem right. If you GONNA bring it back to episode on an episode for then that's where it should have gone so and I've always been a all to D- to to me stalls was always seen through the eyes of C. Three appear an Altar de to an altering much left out of this. This this trilogy. Yeah Oh God new joy and fact. They introduced a novel new. Droid JANATA MAKING MONEY. You got to perfectly awesome. Joins that use them? What could I do? Get you in the closet. Could you Eddie everything? Basically he was the doctors. Sony screwdriver could say everything you know. And in the in the The prequel films he saved the day you know whenever when they need it so you know you fell to return the I. When he was almost destroyed but he came through the end he was like. Oh Gotcha and then all of a sudden. He's just like raise that yeah. Yeah he's just there and he had the information on him just boom. Just Force Awakens. He's asleep in an artsy. Has the map you finally scar? Walk in Boise skywalker three. Po reads the blade. He's got all the information about where to find you. Know the death star and all that sorta stuff and so you know the the joys are they are k. but yeah I mean three pio had such a thing. He was the star at minimize. He was so good in. That was so fun at that. Was the thing about three. This is why definitely this film should have been split because there was there was aspects of like member watching it Chewbacca. Cute you back and my Aso's watching it. My mind went. Oh my God. That's why that leaked Off WORK SO C. Three Po holding he's good and he's in his In his belt and Chabert never give anybody unless you were dead. And they've just. Oh no he's alive the tint let it pay off they didn't let it sink in a long enough and with off with a C. Three PR was well. When he had his men rewind. T- think Oh my God and it was a really touchy the I you know I had to communities my is you my nichols. Who'S WARREN IS IS AL. And then next moment he gets a reboot and is like. We're all good. We'll say who not even say it doesn't they. We make translate it. He won't remember anything. Good remember black. There must be some other way does not backup your memory please up to storage. It's undeniable. Course it will be. Its wars costly. Welby now me. I'll just wish these made it pay. If you could kill someone kill him and then leave some time because just imagine if if C. Three pair with that was the end of him. That was the end that would have been polic- went out doing something they wanted to do. Yeah in episode I when the whole hold on the new thing yeah Two Mo- two more logic. Utah y you sacrificing of your best sort of admirals when this loaded droids knocking around aim at that big shit. You know. There's a lot of last show I find but this too many leaps of logic from a yes to pick apart the every films got stuff that makes no sense. Goodness knows got plenty of the original trilogy when you dig into his load. Fr- lasted always the most things I can't square off but the riser skywalker. Will they even mentioned that said maneuver designate? You'd think I was just a freak. One in a million chance. Was It really really annoyed that I like the way that is all he has? I wanted to million shot and he okay with that because obviously if if it wasn't a one in a million shot logically than vague logic. Komo's wounded one boy just launching ships in Florida but then but then what makes small. He's going to see wicket and and the other a walk on. Endo looking up at the sky. They see the Star destroyer. I've had an. It's been split in half and clearly somebody hold yes split up. There's not one in a million figure being key in Miami and actually given it some props in the other dog that that was your thing because the the end in seemed to be very much like independent state where your needs to take out one and every single ship owned by the first order to drop like flies that guy that Designed that poll toll on the death star. He's now gone. Well no design it. He's now got a pass because the guy who did the did the Arrow on these I oughta ships now. Where did he sign that off? Oh actually out. Considering the amount of people on each ship and how many ships they were three hundred million three million dollars over X. ago injured million. Oh my God. He's I mean the rebels Mass genocides yeah. That's that's what all the people who are digging into the film scientist. So I don people moaning about the death star and you know I remember many hundred thousand dollars on the decimal three hundred million dollars at the end of Rosas go satellites the role. GonNa lose any sleep over that. They start destroy ships in the beginning when pope said he wasn't that powerful evokes the Maldini or was it. Just that one that was in is couldn't get down now has a crush. Nazi because he does he certainly see the one commodity is I mean. I think that they were probably all their Koyo Kana Dis- young either didn't take any Novi so we don't need to see dramatic chain every and that was just one coming out of the economy that never all built under the IT. It just looked cool. I'll give him did local but that was a that was a lot of ships out there for thirty years. Since the end the General I building building building this foreign rule. Deflate a you know. It's it's interesting I mean you you you look people to sign. It makes no sense but you look at you look at Phantom menace and Palestinians already in a position of power and then he becomes chancellor of the Republicans and eight and he's tight and his ten years between Phantom and close and he continues to play the long game eh and then the whole of order sixty six whole of of Solitaire yes ordering the client army and all the all the stuff this coded into the droids and everything that you do is to show the royal. It's all planned belong games. So even though he's not explained over in the fell but I think it needs to be particularly You know you just think well if we know enough about Palestinian side cousy at a plan you know and certainly with these vehicles is you know. The ships still building in this deaths portable deaths off late which is basically what he's building you know it's like. Yeah okay. Oh come out at some point? I'm doing my show. Something will happen. They'll be exciting motel because this is the reason you know it was begins at the very beginning the very end of attack of the clones and pretty much at the beginning of the safe. Yeah so the elements of law out lobby. We never really got the same as the climate and then three's automatic restart still finished it on his next month. Yes crazy. Yeah I was thinking about that as well because I was under the impression that they the just bringing it back and we'll have a couple more seasons but then they've trace at the final season thinking. Oh really while. We're up one more season than no season and when they richly cancer. I was like man of Loft turf seen the day flow. Wny's version of the the fall of the temple and that really wanted to please please. God make that a reality. We can see. That came out the other. Diane and people have been watching it closely and pointed out that there are certain things in that the animated trailer the all motives the happening. Revenge of the safe from a slightly different angle. If you like the end of season seven will actually encroach on revenge. Which reminded me of the Tar Secorski Boeing theories back in the thousands. Yeah SEEING GETS KIDNAPPED TO GO. Rescue Him and it is equally leads. You into the very big. I think in fact I think the phone will shot was the star of the Ballot Carson. Yes into the filming out. Yeah I love those. I wish they'd left them as cannon another crazy and places but I did. I've got him on. Dvd BOUGHT THEM ON TV. I think you could not buy them. Dvd been braced on the any overfull. Mouth I easy because they will be brilliant on blue right. I mean they go to topic that missing the trick by not releasing a walks. Androids Waltraud series Paran. Courage about you know. Gamble out there on Blue Rikers. People want him. They wanted they will buy them yet wilk especially with the Mandolin. Because some of the creatures there in the mandate Laurien are in the Bow Levin Dole. The eggs the eggs. Yes yes. They're in it. 'cause my makes a a friend of mine sent me the quick loss on the front cover. This I went on a I know 'cause because it was a I recognize them when it was first but yet deafening missing a tree with those original cartoons. It tells you how Grievous had been so heavily as well because it wasn't older one that Christie's lungs in my suffolk my steady cushion city. Chess part yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's why he was working is though. Isn't that serve the actual sound guy? Who did his voice? Also it's not my word is the ways George. Lucas is it. Yeah I d ever ways guarding spin out of bad. Asthma Day that yes. He's well he's like We'll he's nine Babu free. Oh that's it full expired. The lady that plays Modine metal and the her paw which would never have guessed. Wasn't he good? I loved him. He was Eh because Oh I know him. He's my oldest friend. Sissy Free Sing. We're spreading so many little league of his policy three by some so many little cuteness aligns in it. I mean we're talking about a lot Lubbock attack of the clones of Hebron not the real pointy. I'd put source which was all right but you know not not the Ba all of tackling client. So I'm not going to knock attack at a time saver but then you compare it to this and some of the hero mistress slow. Laugh out loud. I just I know this annot busy. She's with the film. It's totally to films squeezed into two hours and twenty totally. They could have made life a lot easier rooms and made a boatload of money as well spin into movies. Yeah but I. I still was filmed the grim and his secrets in the middle of Ryan. Colorado this star lay reaches out then the sacred of Jalan coil which was just wild dog anti me and then and then the galaxies tiny now so rice somehow saving me gets from and or beer all the all the way through the origins to Actor he's basically on the edge of the Galaxy and then you have this loop which again was a reserve. A good sane. So Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah we'll see that the galaxy is very very small now isn't it? It's just thinking about the every time I think about the death style. I remember when I saw it in the trailer. For how absolutely wow but the Daegu the Decca Mall that that was Li- really they watch goonies wrote. That went for lunch. The somebody may go and to standardize exact point the permanency points just in this little Arrow puts into a little bit. Just call. Yeah that would look back back. Tiger literally made no sense. Yeah made no sense. I guess I because the ECON- came when she we found in the wreckage. Yeah Anaconda came across this is mentioned. Fagor all the staggers saying terrible things. They thought copy anymore than at the most thirty years old because the desktop crashed on beer. And you know all the radiation late wreck the oceans and all that Milwaukee caused the waves and blah blah blah and he's enormous ABC's be Death Star. Book that being said somebody must have gone along and carved out that you know that. Yeah and so you know. That was a bit yeah. That was a bit because I would have thought that whole thing would have been better if she felt she would drawn to it. Jimmy cause that I did that that she was proteins. Door to shift she would be drawn to it. Now if to me though. Mark if I remember my my stall walls locations the emperor's Throne Room on rearm returned. The jet on the death star was on a massive pike to sitting there midday. If you idea that the Shawnee so the two is in and the cameras would append over the talker. I always felt loose going up a great big escalate elevator. Or whatever you call it to get to the top and yeah did very much read like the improves. Front Room was that book. I've been sad an autograph because auditing side when when you look out the window of the death star of His throne room yet. You didn't see the service the death so you never saw anything. When you don't have the wind this time in the distance it looked like you were looking at the trench so I wouldn't do whether or not the whole tower as you sigh as kind of collapsed down sort of almost on its side. Then you looking out the window at the rest of the landscape at the desktop. Because he's always been bashed around but yeah. You thought the Siamese the Sanford been particularly specified. That's always been my head of Russo yet at the top of the tower. Yeah it's got to go look for that. The thing is now we. We're sort of like making us. Sales would make an out the kidder. Survive 'cause the death star was obliterated but imagine I always thought Mark Right that that tower with the empress room on top was was there for reason as it could detach itself. It was like an escape capsule. The wait was designed looked like it could easily detach and fly off thing. Yeah absolutely so you know. There was suddenly points of logic that they could have easily cutout. You know made just slightly changed to make like a bit. More census like how lookie with with a crew of the foul Falcon that when they smash it up. The just happens to be some people who just happened to be I order a stormtrooper. Just wanted to give it a hand him by Bacopa in Flyer out there right what? He's Not Falcon. Beta of my no was all in the in the original trilogy. The Falcon always not that. It's fragile not way. You measure Z fragile. Books Enforce Awakens it. It's like if you had your your old dog cast Fokin as a kid and you took it down. This is GONNA be okay. But I'll use inventing the original trilogy. He was locked choking the Falcon down. The says. Say THAT ENDS UP NOT GONNA end up so Elysee. It's a tough little shape. It really is. Yeah absolutely must be more of that of them ships flying around those those. Why not the most many because they could never crucial date given the they are not recyclable. Those ships all said no knowledgeable. Yeah because stock which is the boss. Three crucial is which is what I mean. They are what they're getting all week long dates. It survived absolutely absolutely. Because I was I was thinking. Oh my God are they gonNa destroy its in this one Really was worried. I do all the folks with Mike. I was thrilled to bits when he all the way to tax waiting at the end replaced. And those likes these. I'm the light. Speed skips when I came out of the cinema and author Becker full. Well that didn't make sense but you know what when I was watching C. Got This right. He was like they were showcasing. What startles is going to be totally now because he did not like proper tore startles. That'd guys that same is nuts. I know a lot of Christians have been laid at the door of Roy Padilla season and the editor as well by filmed the lost of Kelly. Tran lock trimmed photography him and also because they couldn't quite get the Carrie Fisher of stuff to work with. Its aides explained. I think in the visual dictionary where the law speed skipping that rose came up with. I think I think I'm getting this wrong. But I've only really quickly blasting through the book to be honest with yet but but I think he's Co pay that you aging after sister which is going to keep it. Yeah you know you so preloaded some destinations and then just bounce around because obviously from last Jedi first order connect track three harvests by and that way around throwing off tracking office which is Kinda creepy or anything base. The full could an old is taught four percent over to forget night of the planet. Now with I went way Rem Budi. I was You know they can track those toy. Faltas contract help is macy's not just star destroys. Now it's toy for just contract them as well. So it's a really. Yeah we I get to know the one. That is things that you know the longer the Dennis Potter even more of Rosie debate more explanation. Yeah yeah things out better yet which I wouldn't have I wasn't to Kane on Because they still to leaned on it may fall too. Much was the force transporter. Do you know what I mean. They the way they did. That's a key in my head. I just kept thinking if that little speech fin had with with homicide saying oh the force that do it and he goes. The fosters work like that the enemy and was like what they doing. Hey I'll just you know. Does that mean like if he wants a big Mac she could use force. Get a big Mac from somewhere. Demi there's going to be like restaurants so low ses then. Yeah you know it'd be like Hey Echoes WanNa pick men down. There was that there's race they don't touch me and big back but that didn't cause the whole lot luke appearing on crite actually being an actor didn't tickly like that and it didn't lock it from a story point of view because personally. I other than Luke. Gone there and faced coil. One to one and he'd rather than sort of exerting himself to death so just like bended. Yeah Ben was managed to turn open faced fighter. All your that. He was gonNA die at Luke. Didn't all kind of not bought this. Make that loot digging into for binding to actually turn. Okay right and left. I think he's in the book. Where Luke races after because he decides should be going to fall and then doesn't go for whatever reason to comment there that well well you know. He's actually we see in in las dead. I but then. Of course eat lovely so throwback empowerment Luton if the excellent fondly lutely absolutely if the xtreme that it couldn't do empires all of that little absolutely words could have done that in last shadow if it wanted to And gone and Ford but but then of course Ryan Coil. There's that scene where they just calling to torch when you get the water off From what passes for one of the other the condensation so they it's the beginning of that sort of force skype or whatever they call. They're just kind of a were perfectly obviously in the The Exco Seen Ren Ri- sort of prices to call it is so that was the that was a neat usage of the point. I think there was. There are bits that the holdover I mean you know right throwing the cyber into the into the fight even Luke. Saint in general should look after they were digging the opening scene of last year. But personally I might not because I did not like the opening scene on wanted no but it was like you know when he rose the the the X. wing out to the awards. It was an outlook that same. Absolutely lock you looked at and the X. Ring was just beautifully preserved. You know which would do 'cause you know. 'cause sill sailed yet then. I thought well didn't luke use the the wings to to to make these Dole. Yeah Yeah Yeah. It's not the not looking ave the silver lining there again. I couldn't I couldn't get over the fact that they moved. Kind of rinse scarlet star. Yes if you not gonNA fall a fruit dot doing APPS Golic did not you know people who cares all noticed it so it matters and therefore you know movies just because a lock on his cheek prefer his nose or whatever it may be. That's not your that's an overhang from previous. Batty's not your decision. Some I get you carry on with in in that sense. You pick what you've been given and if you come up with the story reason why the skull moves then fine don't just change arbitrarily because you lucky here. Not there to be looked when RAI. Hails him on the On the Scott Dissipate Scott disappeared. Then it was very much star in the sense that when when they can males before Powell Pasadena pouting says you shall now be known as Vita and forbear or name. He Stole Fada even though he's not in the armor. East off Aden. Ben Forged off. Beta almost defy doesn't Anneke you know people forget he's always invited not for injured in these. Lucy's all these limbs in the ends up in the along the east all fighter. That's just a cosmetic change essentially you. He's already dogfight when right. Hails Carlino Rather Yeah Right Hills Kyle and Ben essentially spend this. They're up and she says I want to take your hand. Benzon which I thought was brilliant lawyer for mayor on Amy's Ben Call Up to the rest of the Phillies. Ben Solo caller. I've said to you many times. The redemption of color rank could not happen to me. It was just he. Did he killed Solo. That was he's evil book. I immediately changed when Solo Que back yet with honky packet said I mean now I'm absolutely and then we could have really spoil this the end in where they they killed him off. I was I was not why why they've done that. Because just imagining mark she right you source. Something happened but you went to show. She goes back to the resistance. They go oh yes I think. Five Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Then she flies to Tattoo Wayne Ryan. She's just imagine that When she gets censure looks down at the homestead. You See Carlo walkout in normal where now me? And he's gone there in exile himself because he knows he goes out to the resistance inside Hamaoka. They ain't gonNA NOT GONNA fly with him so he himself exiles himself to touch screen and that together and then the rises skywalker would be the rise skywalker. Because they're like a union together which will have like maybe a child which would be a solo skywalker in putting but I would have come on. I get what you mean. Personally I think I think. From from a apartment story point of view you know Carlos go on the death star and right transfers hereditary unless you did with this night on Sauna. I like by B. O. DIDN'T Mendel Oriented discography hails him and then oversee Ri- Doi's fourteen palpably. She's dead and Colo gives hayes reminding. She's giving him a large force or enough ave now. He's giving all of his life because he's pretty much done. The empress suit off law choked in down to pet and probably force of will is pulled him back to get out of that hole to get back to right right so caller decipher. I just enough time for a case in the small. And then I think he gets the redemption because he passes into the fourth. I think that's a false awake at two. Phantom menace all the things my five minutes gene called Doi. Using funds administered ages pass into the he's burial Eastbourne East bruins on a on a funeral. Pain An Akin Zoo monthly passes into the force guys. So that must happen. We just say it happened so yoed ago we saw. Ben Disappeared a holiday. You know quickly but by with with colleague going and I think I think also you know it's seen in the comic israeli-issued wonder if the new stars coming Sewing and stowe's allegiance rather Lion Ri- really out of character rights really ugly written but they go to Monte Carlo and meets up with you know to honor Akbar meets with taboo. Of course we say in Roy's you know and You know all of the difficulties that she has. Because she's the SONA Vita. Oh the door to provide all I think if Calderwood survived. He was we saw it with. The empire was just more fleshed out. We've not really seen who. I origins the same degree. But he was clearly every bit as gender solid lives. Vita you know. He killed all the villages. Onto and Alvin Jacoby Kills Lawson tekere and all the things Dayton as loss of different types. You could have all those on the far as well. Didn't it yet? You know he licensing through all the things he did too right you know when he was trying to extract things from a mind layer on the store with vitamin the probe. Droid Oman control thing. So there's lots of Anglesey comply for me him having that with Ri- and then passing into the force was like just perfect 'cause I could and also the end of the it's the end of the trilogy. So someone's going to nobody else really yourself. Yeah just a couple more things. You've got a that you think we will get. Jj Colt because it seems to be go for that now. Now I point to that so I don't. I've heard like many patients. The first idea of the field was four hours and he had to Eddie back so that people if people want the Jay Cooke Imam personal opinion. I'll she just lie down there ten pound or twelve dollars and go to the cinema and see Roy Zor Scott Bass east of the. Jj Cook it is. I don't believe there's a longer eddie or it's a longer at every film because every film has trimmed out of it so so there is all edits out there all Mugabe nothing. That's complete over. It's not like the Snyder. Fables North Dakota people to making comparisons. Doug believed the thing is inverted commas. Jj We've seen it's just my billion dollars. He's just made a billion dollars announced other enough already. Pre-empted mind for the steelcase. After say we won over thing mark. Have you Seen Picasso? Jin As we speak a comes out. Well we get on the twenty four th so that's tomorrow. I think as we speak about saying although I may be I may be lying always only if if if I'm able to download something or other but now all will more than likely wait until tomorrow and see all right. We'll leave it there because I was opiate city then next time we chat. 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"Will. Up crashed PITSO. What else up? Everybody what what's up. What's and hopefully this doesn't have a crazy echo? Because I have a here myself. Strangely this black man Aw sorry for the delay and shows Yeah pretty much Then there's really nothing else to say money nobody life. Yeah it Especially these years kind of hard to just pin down. Tom's uh-huh to come and record is life ended up happening You know October the October until December has got a really busy time for me who both my kids. Birthdays and Christmas is submitted. Time so you know. Sorry I Hammond show for a while but this is besides we talk about one specific thing Sort of and on this episode. We're going to review the Nustar where the mile an opponent who those. I've got my little pony. Yes talk to you might you. Okay all right Yeah we're GONNA review the New Star Wars movie. The the rise of list all helped rises rival Skywalker. Rides Scour Yeah I let's let's let's get a rating out the Wayne. Let's go into our thoughts out of team out of ten I'm not like the the number is how you enjoy the movie watching them of no caveats had enjoyment factor of the whole mood like a six man. Let's six and a half have been thinking about six and a half all here on my right. There's not your name you know. It ain't battleship. But it's not the as yet but it ain't infinity infinity war like it ain't like it's not the last Jedi which I did not enjoy like at eight o'clock in Software movies. I can compare that to but I probably go with a six point five six six five. Yeah it's not I wouldn't I wouldn't even even though I enjoy them more than he did like alcohol. I kinda I kinda give those the same rating to be honest. They all kind of get the same Reagan for me. The all kinds of fall as much as like because the issues with the first movie that is just like a new hope. Reeve spry bribery based Yes yeah and as good at the visuals and things are narrative elitist elitist worldwide. Like even from the first movie the first movie I don't I there's potential somebody's charged with. I just wasn't invested after being excited to get invested I've never been invested this whole time. Young yeah the first movie was I'm having that much. I said we were here going into the theater. We left here. I mean I didn't. I wasn't down on the first movie. I thought always the first movie was okay. Okay I the qual- I didn't think it was bad. I do think it was a letdown for me personally. I don't know I I didn't. I didn't I expected expected to be enthralled and go into the Trilogy Abbott I mean it looked pretty cool things at the storied in happy life was going to. I don't care that much. I don't know I wasn't. I wasn't disappointed in the first one the second one. I'll disappointed in very disappointed. Got A legitimately. Don't like to say one last year. Here's the thing I don't. I don't I asked hugging. I like it more than you. The put the thing I'd I would cook Canto Bite Shit up again. I couldn't candlelight. Shit up the casino issue I I. I cut the Kanto bikes you I mean. I don't mind that might issue is some characterizations and again i. I enjoy those. Anybody give Misha that Easter. I don't think I don't think these. Three movies differentiate themselves as far as like quality wise and some wide. GET LIKE I guess they're all pretty like okay. Okay but like at the at the if the best thing you can say about them like. They're like they're not horrible made movies. Yeah I mean I mean not bad movies but again back to this movie like it gets goofy. There's a lot of goofy. He gets goofy and depending on who you are. I could see you say okay. That kind of took me out of it. Well let's let's get into some always always always spoiler a whisper on the Fox I lose. This ain't going to be released until like the week. After Christmas whatever's why wasn't going into shape when I was talking about. Yeah we'll split that's So we can go to if you've never seen star wars. I mean that's your the one thing I'll say about. This kid is dark. Vader dies spoiler spoiler dot what he is and can skywalk. Oh unspoiled there's I thought that in this like I didn't have an issue which shit like the power skelly only right Founded funny but I didn't have a really issue because the way the story was going you had to make ray a a feasible foil to Kylo putting I can. I feel like I can feel both of those ways though like that because I feel that way but it's also why it annoyed me because It became a cartoon at certain. Wrote albertine McCartan yet. Again you can be different. Depending to live off three of them did some cartoony shift. I mean can honestly All of that stuff. But I made Samson from from looking after my favorite picture it looks cartoony at point. The force is Tony. I didn't find I didn't find the forest cartoony in even the people that didn't come off cartoon vessel with what parts were cartoony when the necklace thing took me out of the four Sega. You have a lane apparently something you can do on. I can accept that at the same time. Like that was kind of goofing for me to watch indeed by like dammit Taylor. I hit set it up perfectly honest I told you not domesticated no but I'm saying I accept that if I'm saying just watching and I'm like that's kind of Goofy to me isn't university is kind of Goofy to me. That's I can I can okay. That's the thing that I'm like I get it. I don't like I didn't really have I didn't have an issue with that The thought that kind of stuff. What kind of cool if it's stuff? That's already that I'm aware is possible again. I'm not I'm not saying they're not no problem album just saying from just I'm watching a film like that was goof on an issue with it. The only thing for power swabs had an issue with is power team and force lightning. I mean how tire no six like that. My Gosh that's just for fake. I mean I didn't. I didn't like I saw online oak. Four back to get in on that so the necklace wooden for fake but our team being able to force lightning a platoon more than a thousand ships. That's like you have an issue with Michael Bay. Exploding things like two thousand like silly is why I find listen I thought it was silly too but I'm just saying that that's why did why got civil silly. I thought I thought some of the four she. It was goofy but some some of the force it I did like was the arm. What's what's this Shit Carlo? Did he did some cool. He did one the Khushi which one he did a couple of the movie. We would like one when nights Renoir fucking fucking with him. All the shrug. Yet when he got when the lifesaver teleported year. which I still gets wanted uh-huh xactly I understand how that works? One of them things I was talking about but I mean. They established that they could do that in the movie. I just I guess. That's a force bonding again. I I understand that and I said I'm just watching the movie. I'm like out. I'm assuming that's a foregone like Amazon. They didn't really explain it but I'm assuming go with. It really didn't explain it. But I'm assuming that with a force bonding that she can put it behind her back in like that. That's something that I don't like any because because like you like you're assuming you're assuming alive. Would you do shit like that because like even 'cause I told you about it was discuss for you. If I wouldn't have said that I mean properties at it but before that no what I'm saying but that's literally the only context you get it like what's it call. I mean you just still lucky. Well I know it affords me. We could for when I know what it is but I'm just like did okay. I like this. If you've Never Watch Star Wars movie or this is your first trilogy. Some of this might. It'd be a little what the for. What come on man told you this my cigarettes? Don't fucking blame me Nigga. Big Toe to start touching it. What else will fall again? on a man like I thought some of the moments go like when ray cut cut the weight off the top fighter. I thought that too I just I don't know if the movie over I don't know if the cool moments overcame like the messy storage love story was missy and parts. Where like how did how did person a get the point b without anyone see Kyle Fox Connecticut? Yeah with no eight. Will we know he was on a ship. It's like how do we get to that planet and no one knows that fast fast and no one because no one saw him a force. That's not of okay. Now you see you remembering now but I understand I understand. That's what but they didn't say just sounds weird. I guess still or some Shit I feel like I feel like if you can say the four athletic you asked ask. He'd say the force of whatever okay He used the force. This block the ship from the radar. What I mean? They weren't in their ship. Aw was weird. That was because I thought he was a projection until he got stabbed the latest late. I just Taylor the the Laya stuff I just hold the. The latest stuff was awkward because only because she was already dead. Tell no saying but yes you can clearly tell a when they could when it could end 'cause somebody that dialogue only Gulf of that seed because we made it. We wrote around the dial lights 'cause like lay. It was looking more talking in this. Well you know. Carrie Fisher's not alive. You just keep you know where you can just kill them but you could adjust. She died in space. They also don't think how she actually. I thought that was forced death. The gist saying Ben. Thing yeah it. It's it's a way to just do. This is the way to do that. Like I didn't understand what the Cup thinking. He almost killed his mother like. He tried to kill well his mother last movie. That's so that's department may said like so all of a sudden now he cares about the well no he did care like all over. Hey here's enough for it to stop him for murdering artery people now. One thing that the last movie in this movie continued is that he was having second thoughts on being you know Kylo Ren and felt life Ron and he did say something like I can't go back like there's nothing I can't go back because I killed my dad. I also like people lined fuckers redemption. I'm sorry I have never going to be a ruben. They will always going to do what they did. With vader like because once you go that far actually coming back argument like what forward. No no even. I don't think any can become a Flyer Dempsey murdered. Children can kill Madame until June. killed a autophagy like Darth vader killed. People now he just happened to be Jesus but he killed love this but medical orense would it does not kin thank God. They probably still arcane of against ever going to say that it almost gonna like no one's GonNa tap that no one's GonNa like no one's onto ever go to say the word Lauren. What you say that now? I think somebody is going to actually do it now. He's going to be really offhand. There's no one's ever GONNA mathematical. It's a medical reasons again. 'cause it was stupid near was the whole concept of it was stupid. Personas Jarve England and a Lotta Shit big adventure. Nisa ain't all that really bad dialogue in the Senate. She in the Senate seems Musa. Amy How I mean. The the PREQUELS hasn't cool moments Dr Name. They weren't enough at six hours. A move darth Maul node YODA's one of the DOPE ABC's when Iota comes creeping in also also six thousand move. Yes but that second consecutive Louis Quatorze right segments clone was. I thought the second we had some of the best causal light of clone wars enemies in one. I like that culturally. Yes yes I don segment. We have some cooler seen so again. It's it's like what's that It is the F. Moves Life. The movie has okay. It's like it's like X.. Men Three it has some really who who moments in it. It has some of the coolest moment from the original x men trilogy but is also a bad movie. So here's what also The prequels are all better than X.. Men Three even hope to me like it's not close. I'm not I'm listen. I think I'll four them actually bad movies as just as the two has. Good moments is still a bamboo. It's not a good movement. The second washing watch it from beginning to end you. You tell me. That's a that's a really good family. I remember of selling a car in the Prius. The commercials yes and literally in a movie. They made sure. Are you knew prettiest your yeah time ago Asada. I don't make it a habit of watching the like I saw it on a prequel gentleman. Talk to start with premiums obscene. I watched floors. I'm washed them half Obama. I don't make it a habit now. I watch that one qualm. Silly six is months ago six months ago. I think when I was on a kick of like Star Wars Lorsch. It and I'll watch clone wars and I mean I think the best movie movie of the mall in the last one. I still don't think it's a good movie but it's Padamsee Dad from heartbreak. That movie is action. Could Pantomime literally died of. I mean that's a Ban van part in the movie and I think that makes it a bad movie and it can doesn't makes it. I mean he doesn't make sense in the entire fucking drilling. He makes sense in clone wars. I he stops making logical sense at all. I mean star starts being a fucking like to boss angsty teenager in the second one's Oh like I feel like there's a better way to write his fall into the dark side or wasn't Ryan and then got him being angsty teen boy. That's the only way George George knew how to do. This horny. angsty teen very can't do Mary. Super Horny angsty teenage boy. 'cause the only cuisine university. Dan Patrick Bruce who was significantly older than him if our mimicry. How was she supposed to be in the first movie old enough to be a galactic representatives? She was a teenager at at least the tears. She was at least he even Hain. Kristen was older than her yes. She's older than him. Yes because he was like nine years won't we are something like they're also. It's really weird. How they don't acknowledge in the movies? The anikin built C. P. Three now they know they never acknowledged they knowledge in Macau Arts are to know he didn't beat up build our two. He was joyous bill. Yeah like it's interesting like that's never knowledge known and always naively isn't that's something that he retroactively went indeed so it would never been in the original trilogy year. But it's just weird like kind of be highlighted in the next six movies. I mean it was never really something that I think we've been taught about in this trilogy. Dentists like what Vader's did but you I mean he's there but like the coma Gush over the lobby through it is Landau one of the most iconic I wish we would have more bad as raider scenes. We'll never really get down here. It's it's a ashamed that they'll move came out when they came out because I feel like I thought it was came out Satan in Santa Analogy. Look Ahead Terminator. Because they're the for anyone who's was interesting does a YouTube Rework of the fight between lovie one invader is dope and I wished to fight. We got we dig it. It is yes because the that this does shows like OBI one was one of the best. Lightsaber duels ever Darth vader and so was ZANUCK. HR got lots. Yeah like really like he you out of life also up in life who said that the deafness may be fucking laugh. I mean it doesn't you don't really die if your death is far leaving the earthly mcleans going close. That's so weird so weird to look at yes every time I see it as like as their van which is and no she didn't speak to in. This was weird because like Ben Disappear Bright Athlete. That's not consistent note not consistent at all breath breath and why was high in the force or was that just like a memory also like small things notice how totally ignored effect. And like I you arose. I did like kissed allows moving. You not even Hodge in that apartment. Yeah get a lot of weight was pregnant. Oh she's pregnant ogre. I was like Oh she put on weight right Yes they ignored that in the in the day was like us cow Blah Blah and say also like he never tells Whatever unrequited? Look you know. We all know what he was going to tell her. Yeah but he never does never again is is going to happen to some novel. Five Year from the embassy. Now on on you know. She wants to Edinburgh Salon. Ben Because that makes sense she wants bank and again. I don't ask. The driver makes me hot. The white women who will find Adams right every really attractive go found a balance through late winter oak especial white winning. Yeah but Yemen They liked him I. I'm sorry that part was just non believable like the emotion recoup with like. Oh my God that's rather darrow people. Finding driver attract needless extra in the movie ugly ass Jar Jar big spaces and he looks like he does have weird facial proportions off topic. Adam driver and mirror story is a terrible person you understand and on driver is actually a really good. He's really good act yes he is he is two things that he was written was written wrong and properly in his trilogy. What from this tuna star? He was written to be like angry angry. Here's the thing. They think. Stop doing that as much in as well but he is. Nowhere near is Louie angry as he had diverse. 'cause the first movie that was literally throws a Tantrum. I saw he threw a ten minute. I suffer from Also me and tailor-made Combine Multiple Times movie. Why do you question these niggers ever? They haven't stopped during nineteen in the nineteen seventies. They keep doing stop questioning their space. Wizard choke you their mind. Stop Stop questioning them but subduing stop. The same thing happened in this movie while we listened. I`Ma beyond I I know why they do certain things don I kind of wish we give up. Okay let's not make the store troopers. Just putty soldiers from power as Tares so bad they serve no purpose cannon fodder thin poco like ninety the sale. No cover runs straight down straight hallway arraigning these people. Why also why is hooks better this shit going so yawkey hidden like they're not zigging? They're not saying they're not going to cover their winning being in a straight or a nine foot tall running he's he's down there. The shoot 'em they literally get the drop on multiple times and our hallway who one of them turnaround and be like no star again there. There are a lot of times. Move with Star Wars. You must work sometimes like I wish you guys would stop doing. Also the nicer ran. Did nothing nothing in this movie again. They told you the movie. The nicer ran are the starwood equivalent of ghost rider. Those loops stuff. He actually doesn't do a lot what he's done stuff if you go back and relearn communist like I'm fitness work. I mean there's a lot of that can fucked up there no one year. When daredevil was the devil I hated shadowland? He was he was literally literally just the spawning ghost rider of okay. Spun Has Been God before saying like he's like the spawn comic isn't actually good. It's not he he just he looks very cool. Saying he's been gone for is actually not a comment. Congressman actually read the comics spider kind of the majority of the run. It isn't actually by the first twenty issue may be interesting is likely the plot. What does the plot is mine? Got Gas why is he. He doesn't he wants to fight. The devil is a series of cool looking vignettes. So weird clown man MHM The violator who donated by the way it is no there. See Okay Thomas the tank Kubo fucking companies. You can read a draw all you can draw a lot of cool shit who concept dull suck it. Right don't write them Domenico. How did he right? How do you reconcile your are leaving? Rhode uh-huh everybody gets one. You're right 'cause todd rules vitamin allowed. Imi dated he creative in them or he no lie day. mccliney Linux cremades than the way drew them code. Yes settles teeth I am I infantry. Enjoy the teeth into now. Those teeth the big busy look lack of fucking killer way. We're getting off topic Couldn't hate the movie man. Not here's I don't I don't hate them. I just feel like did not like his life. This movie is not as bad as like the fucking. The Sky Guy is fallen star wars fans claim. Hell No. It's no one but it also is a movie. That had flaw that they didn't have to have that that I agree with a greeter some flaws. But I feel like some of those flaws or because they're weather consistent vision for the trilogy under the Lucasfilm bear the brunt of this whole negative they bear the brunt of this because I feel like if you WanNa Day Abrahams to do the first one. He should have done I all I would like to know because that's why I say I don't think there was a long term plan on Lucasfilm's aside because why wouldn't if you just lock him in you know white marble lot then the flip Every single mothers for the fucking move of I. Would you just do that. Let Hey you're GONNA do This series because good light a series of move. Feel me if I miss something. What big movie? Two digit movement. It was the movie that he did that. took him away from Star Wars. Did they do anything between he might have her deep keeper do some stuff. But he didn't direct anything yeah. I don't think he really did anything. Between the first. Our wars not directly there is no so why because is interesting. I don't light the less But I also don't feel like the movie we would have got updated. Animals was directing it and I guess. Kathleen Kennedy loops film fall. Like I don't because I feel like their plot threads that JD wanted wanted the rule and Rian Johnson was. I know I'm doing the movie I WanNa do but again. That's why you don't do that though. No I'm not I'm not blaming Ryan because you I don't like the thing I don't think you it's it's hard just knowing creative the people it's hard for me to think you've been room. Say just do what this guy was gonNA do. Yeah in the middle of something anymore. It'd be one thing if I if he started it but you like. Hey Do this I wanna I got some blue that fuck you know again the buck stops with Kathleen Kennedy in Lewisville. They didn't have they didn't have a plant. Jj can have one. They didn't have one that they did. He would directly off reading move. ooh That's true. So what you but that being said I have the first movie isn't rate the forcible rape is not right because like a lot of that is star wars. Hey God this is star warlordism marshes but it was march and the final scene of this movie had no problem with. I thought that was a cool thing is is not one of those where I didn't have issue with that. It just annoyed me attain on life. I mean it was a cool moment but it's also something j. able to literally do but it like you clothing because the point was were closing out all this. Oh I know nope it always comes back around. We're on tattooing the too so I I get it I get it I get some of the weird. The the aging stuff was strange. Like that lasting would Lucan layaway like UK like that is some bad CGI. They were doing The training yeah that that was a weird. CDI You didn't see her face like a like why he he's still looked like he looked like young Lukin affairs. She looked like a crop tweet old now. Seeing facing look it looked it looked fake year. Like invalid it did. It didn't look as good as things. CGI cairo-born yes. Yes he was surprisingly really yeah Also that's the best star was moving dancers. They've done yes speaking. What do you think this series goes or should go for because From what I read today they do plan on to give you my opinion or were active. They're even largely go after the both. I would like to see them go somewhere else. Let's focus on that going the next you know. What's the camera here or more times? Let's go fifty in the future but let's go. Let's not go fifty. Yes they hit us. They'll go over. He you know the medical uncharted with this. Let's look at flight. We don't expanding universe first. Let's let's go over here you know. Now they're not GonNa do that then. There's really stand that but like they're probably going to pick up. I do not think the naturally W we'll be interested on no not rent down none. I do think there will be some fire two weeks late night. Do they know. Be some sort of significant connectivity connectivity. Maybe but more than that. Some kind of significant change in time period through either backwards or forward What I want one? Now the man delorean which is supposed to happen between Returned audited I in the fourth way. 'cause like it happens in that area. is excellent so peak demand. Laura but I want more stuff in the world that you won't you want more things explore basically nothing about it is. I think they should take this time. Time to really explore the universe and use Disney plus. Well we're going to get more deeply blessed. I don't know what El- I I mean disturbed star wars lifelock. Use the platform. That could you don't. You're not not like hot by have to be moved like they. They've already said there's going to be some sort of Kohn award sequel thing would show him. Yeah would ASAKA. I mean if I thought Oh man Lord that's what it is. There's a movie if Dave is doing. I watch they've Baloney. Do Think Day full only and I think they follow any news director Star Wars. I'm pretty sure Auto Menlo. I think that's what it's called So we're going to get that Not We probably get it. Ezra again in some capacity 'cause he's not dead I'd be not with that Neither ran Enron no years one. Oh Well No. They're the better chance at thrown honest. Did but I don't know if he's dead are they also jump to hyperspace with broken windows so they should but apparently they're not So like for me if we're going to do this like jump to the future and South Passi because the workforce works is always balanced. It always had the bow. Kosovo so jump to the feature where the good guys are good guys and the dark side has the balanced in Dr Sowell's gaining back power. Always have sit and you have a war. Do do that do a new sexual or do a villain from the you love on. Please use wrong just us on long. Just do do the US arm all because I think that works because it's a villain that most people haven't seen yeah it's a villain that the force affects but not I also think like a civil war would actually be people would love that. Oh no no no not the like this is a war within the for like the Cisco Beg the power and having a power struggle to see whom you know what I mean like. Oh so bundy. uh-huh keep target. I mean that'd be cool to or you just sift thing when you break the rule of to somebody comes back and it was like no we need to have our almost the Kademi Blah Blah Blah and secret than like. If you're if you're going to talk about doing your own candidate would do it like I mean you're selectively really. Yeah take him shit expanding. Here's thing but the funny part is they were always going to have to do that so I don't know even put their foot in their mouth when they did that should I well they. I always kind of said that we may use some of it like Grennell throng they also said no vis vis came. Oh and by the way we might well Inada fence and out of the MOMA's George. Lucas said everything with Canada. Like everything like even the ridiculous shape he was like all all of this is because it's not well. Here's the thing is not reading through it all yet so that becomes an issue when you say everything's cannon because then you have like continuity the air with your also Disney Lucy. You can kind of pay people to like you but I mean at the time I'm just saying he said fucking the force on these games. Where can you how that doesn't if anyone's played those games like how there's no way that can be Kent like grandma Starkville? Yeah Garin Malik cannot be cannon note that makes no sense. That NIGGA was overpower detail. Like that doesn't make any sense doc. Nickname my favorite game. Yeah it doesn't make any sense for him to be Canon even not as a coup last character that I wish in some capacity they made him Canon Eh but they never will Question Yep if so. You said that they're going to be another trilogy right question Addict people who have not done star wars movie or or even a big movie like just you know who would you tap the durant year star. Wars fearless was office considered Digitally I don't know I don't know his name but that'd be interesting to see. I want him to do some shit. Light like in the in the vein of the men the Laurie and not have the worry about the wider nominee. But up till tomorrow I think more would've adult talk. I think he would do a very interesting stars. Yeah it'd be a different star wars and the if it definitely wouldn't be as has campy you would have Campbell. Wouldn't be as can get a lot of creatures. We get a lot of good creature fix what we got a lot of his his his is really good. thorough out. I saw somebody say Nolan. And I'm like I actually think Nolan would actually the Rep Star Wars movie. I don't either. 'cause he like Batman was up his alley in in the first place and also and one of his demands was this cannot like I control this. Yeah yeah I I am the Batman or art art war yet like you. Don't you can come in and have some suggestions are you will not tell me what I cannot busy to a warmer. It's like this. This is my baby. Yeah even to his fault in the last year or the last year last one even though I lay charity. Hell I don't want to you know directing erecting anything I wanted to retire. I'll watch once upon a time in Hollywood I was I It's a movie. It's a movie that it's a shame. Some of the acting is that that good. Yes with Brad Pitt is really rapid is really good old girls. But there's there by madman the Weird Characterization Cars Asian of Bruce Lee would I hate down. So hey what's the thing with dirty feet and he had a foot fetish dirty feet he has a foot fetish nick and he likes feet alker Quintin because he couldn't Tarintino. I would hope right. You would David fincher. Oh Yeah Yeah give adventure The giants favre favre part of get one. I think they will like I a honestly think they probably after the man the lowering of the guy who did Wasn't he did Did Blade runner twenty forty nine. It might lead him do I. I still haven't seen that but I also haven't lost run out with her so I'm sorry sorry guys revert manure norgaard mirrored guard release sky. No He's now for me theus. Oh He's GONNA permission to go back to like Proto Sleeve and Proto Jeddah. Maybe not. So you've forgotten. Why people like ailing? He's GonNa go back. You were so up your ass finding or you forgot why we like alien. Yes yes he did all right so that has been besides as we ladies and gentlemen thank you guys for listening Like we say we both gave star wars a six and a half not a bad movie but they just totally fin all the potential. Hey remember when the promo stuff he had lighter remember when we thought we were going to get to Jeddah instead of one Jeddah back before we we were like super excited for the ship before camera. Yeah remember when Finn like consents stuff with the force and then he couldn't afford movie and then now he can't again because that was the thing in this we get to get you know what he would be any big Masseev. Jeff I WANNA be. I WANNA be assist so it won't kill monger as he's that's what you want to be killed logging jacket raw Maggie. Sit Outfit Month Booth Virginia. You'll you'll be Gina and what's another fucking out arranges how fitting mandala it'd be Gina and fucking fucking younger to or shave. That's Hollick. Ron One acre right Louis Darwin. That's the Krahn we recovered from the fifth. Nah You know what you want baby driver in space. Let Edgar Rice. I'm good I I do a don't meet it in space. I Forgot Kevin Spacey was movie cabinets and he was good who died in it so he wouldn't be in the next key is he's also kind of a pervert Weirdo. Who May or may not have autism? Josh we I was GONNA say Josh trank before that guy. He's ruined his career. He really has like on three different. A you Roy. Moore's career he. It's really weird. I like. I really liked chronicle and and then he did fantastic for which wasn't good first of all. That's not what is called coffin forest and look it's cough it literally Gone Fan. WHO refuse to call? And but then but instead of handling that like a grownup 'cause everybody has mrs he. He has become a person. We all got Mrs Bra. Like even the Greats Ms Spielberg Gore Sese Godfather. Three was a thing it was and and a set of. BMI talked this one up to the game you your Disa- crazy person or shrapnel earlier by the answer like damn she oughta go digital You know they're not told. A magic idea got redact directed raw garlic direct. Yeah the dreaded X X Machine Toronto I also would probably enjoy audio but it'd be like hyper-violent in if I want to animated star wars something. Yes an ATI being the one. So it's hyper violent dismemberments people screaming because cut off. Argentina did not just take the The drill thing how we imagine imagine a star wars bottle movie so what subject. I have to do something in some kind of compound and they just trapped in that compound compound accident begun to cool the porno making night. I I want to see. What does he start to play with genres? We'll see I mean you can even do more. There is some scary shit. Yeah so but like the whole of the health the the disease time the balloon fucking Zombie disease at the empire created. Yeah all right well. Almost like that was Empire had a bunch of bad ideas. But we don't see in the movies a lot about like there is actually you better idea. But that's only April with they wanna live to the emperor before we leave. That never understood. Is You know this person is actively trying to killing all the time like. That's I mean. I talked to like Hubris Major League Hubris because vader from the moment he becomes vader like being I'm is lined up and dismantle all the planes in the sky you're GonNa have some Huber's yes literally like for people who don't understand because I don't think it gets explained well enough and revenge sieve. The moment he woke up as vader he tried to kill poverty with the force that crushing everything he was trying WanNa quench packages could like his his Connection to the forces fucked up. 'cause you Muslims bodies got vader at no point and was not trying to kill at summit Essen is never not Larry where Neil Geico the Lord vate do you hear George Watson that scene and put it in the fucking movie. She died of heartbreak to but it's not explained. Well he he he definitely not harboring. She died because she needed to because she was she died. I was displaying. How'd you meet it? You can explain how Vin night but I mean. He transferred his life for Corser in the lady yet. I don't know why because I heard US Human Carrie Fisher's dead we adjutant hers also. It is bushy. Thank you guys for less than we can ran about hours all day. They gotta listen is besides the peace The yeah they

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