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Episode 1192 - Kate Winslet

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Episode 1192 - Kate Winslet

"Blocked all right. Let's do this. How are you. What the fuckers. What the fuck knicks. What the fuck buddies what's happening. I'm marc maron. This is my podcast ongoing. It's called w. t.f. We've been doing in here a long time. We've been in business since two thousand and nine. Every monday and thursday never missed a monday or thursday. We've done the show. We've been here for ya planning on staying here for ya. Kate winslet is on the show today. You know who she is. Obviously kate winslet. She's kate wins wit. She's in this amazing. New movie currently called amanite. It's it's an interesting beautiful art movie of darkly poetic love story. I don't even know if i'd say dark. It takes place in the eighteen hundreds. It's about a british paleontologist who is sort of Not down on her luck but she lives in a small southern coastal town with her mother. She doesn't have a lot of money. male paleontologist steal her discoveries and call them their own and she was supposedly brilliant. She's historically a real character. Played by kate wins sears. Sharon plays a woman who was married to a male paleontologist who was visiting and then weaves his wife there. Because she's ill and can't travel and it's what sort of unfolds in this strange would a world. I never understand why people make movies like this. But the unfolding of the love story and the unfolding of these two people who he'll learn to be with each other in this very difficult situation. Because of who kate winslet's character is but it's just. It's an interesting when i watched a movie. I completely inch enthralled with the performances and also with the story. Because i don't know who decides to make movies like this. You don't see movies like this much anymore this type of independent art film. But it's truly a beautiful movie a and it's a it's a challenging. It's not a challenging story. It's a love story about a challenging love between these two people and i just I couldn't believe how beautiful it was. And how well acted. It was so because i was so involved with that movie. Kate winslet and i talk about it at length and it was very engaging. I'm very happy. I have the job. I have talking to kate winslet. It did some work with some tools. Did some fixing around the house. Got the drill out. Got the screwdriver out. Got the nails got the hammer. Shade was falling. The trim on the window was detaching. So i had to. I had to get up in there. Had to find a nail had a hammer the trim back in then pull out the screw from the blind and recruiting another place because that was causing the problem. So i had unscrew and screw and i you know i learned something about tools not unlike guitar or anything else that i can handle a tool. I can handle a drill. A hammer screwdriver. I can. I can handle the thing that you put you. Putty holes with a can handle one of those wrench him. Okay what wrenches. Sockets socket wrench is not a problem. I could probably handle a crowbar if necessary Candle shovel a pick. Pick not so much picture. Tricky shovels rake can do a rake. But then i think we're just getting into yard work talknet heavy to a sander. I can do a sander. Not great with an ax can play guitar. But i can't an axe. I'm not confident with an ax. My point is is that can do these things. And i can focus enough in the moment to get the work at hand done but we expect ourselves to be able to do this stuff because we can handle a tool but unless you're handling tools all the time let's you're working with tools on a consistent basis. It's going to be hit or miss. all right. i can do it. I can focus. I can get the job done. But i'm not. I'm not using tools all the time not practiced at it. I can't like drill behind. My back can't do any tricks with the driller the hammer. What's my point it's crooked it's crooked. I put it up crooked now. It's going to be crooked. Because i handled the tools. But i didn't pay as much attention as i could. Because in the middle of it. There's a certain panic involved like fuck. Fuck how come the screw. How come there's not going in for a goddamn notice. Hey you're about a half inch off so this side of it is a little bit of an angle that i'll notice for the rest of my life and then you just got to rationalize it right eye. Personalized my house. I know it. I did the work. I'm proud of that. I did poorly by. Did it my poorly done work for the rest of my life. For as long as i'm in this house but eventually i'll stop noticing. Eventually things fade people move on. We'll be reminded but we'll move on. I was encouraged by an article in a weird way that i saw. Because there's a lot of explaining going on we don't know i don't know of this country's going to be overrun by fascists. Eventually i'm very tired of people talking about like. Hey i don't want the political. This isn't political talk. This is the life or death of our form of government talk. That's not political. this is reality. If you're not invested enough to see the truth which is that. There is a kind of crudely organized but very big fascist movement in this country. American nationalist fascist the call themselves patriots. Yet they're fundamentally un-american because of their lack of respect for the constitution that guides country that it's based on our democracy so they are shameless fascist movement who believes buys into a fundamental lie about the last election and also a mythology that is incorrect. Two key ingredients of fascists. How do you do the angry people. How do you trigger them into killing. How do you get them to see everybody but like minded people as as animals as fodder as things to be killed or gotten rid of. How do you do that. What answers wide vaccinations. What is speculation. But the one thing. I can tell you is that it's happening. It's real and i'm fucking. I got no patience for this conversation around. You know twitter shutting people out. Good good you wanna talk about censorship and all that garbage and how it's a seed totalitarianism. And it's a free press not the free press but the private company publicly traded private company. But it makes its own decisions. And for a company an information distribution company a content distributor to make a decision around filtering content that is clearly supporting a fascist movement to overthrow the government of our country. I don't know that that censorship that seems pretty practical because everybody wants to survive. People want the freedom to live the life they wanna live and companies want the freedom to exploit those people in a way. That doesn't cause the entire fucking thing to go up in flames. I'm not saying it's not challenging conversation. But it's not censorship in the way that the first amendment plays into it. Go out and talk all you want. find another outlet. i'm sorry sad trump. he can't just get on. Tv like an ordinary. Fucking president and use the bully pulpit. There why he has to. 'cause doesn't repeat enough. He can't pounded and pounded and pounded on all levels into people's heads. Fragile people who believed the bullshit who get triggered by his narcissism. He invented them. He invented their minds. They are extensions of him. It's not political. They may have been angry. There have always been racist white nationalists in fucking hateful. Wack jobs in this fucking country was built by some but he activates. He's a radicalized her. So when a private company or of them who make their bucks through content distribution decide well. This content is dangerous to everybody. That's a private companies decision in the middle of all this. There's an interview in scientific american because he was looking for answers. What we can do with these people with is the only thing i've seen and i've said this before. I'm not claiming to know anything. But i believe that not unlike anything anyone's passionate about eventually you lose interest if it's not in your face all the fucking time it's not pounded into you all the time if your obsession triggered constantly if you cut the fucking head off the snake but the interview and scientific american with this Thinking human name bandy x. Lee who is a forensic psychiatrist and president of the world mental health coalition and the question presented them what attracts people to trump. What is their animus or driving force and the answer. This smart human gave was. The reasons are multiple and varied but in my recent public service profile of a nation. I've outlined to major emotional drives narcissistic symbiosis and shared psychosis. Does that sound like a relationship. You're in narcissistic. Symbiosis refers to the developmental wounds that make the leader follower relationship magnetically attractive the leader hungry for adulation to compensate for an inner lack of self worth projects grandiose omnipotence while the followers rendered needy by societal stress or developmental injury yearn for parental figure when such wounded individuals are given positions of power. They arouse similar pathology in the population that creates a lock and key relationship shared psychosis refers to the infectiousness of severe symptoms that goes beyond ordinary group psychology when a highly symptomatic individual is placed in an influential position. The person's symptoms can spread through the population through emotional bonds heightening existing pathologies and inducing delusions paranoia and propensity for violence even in previously healthy individuals. Quoting this interview with this person bandy x. lee forensic psychiatrist and president of the world mental health coalition but. Here's the line. Here's the line. The treatment is removal of exposure. That's the quote okay. How do we stop fascism. How do we stop a violent anti-american coalition being led by the president of the united states. Who has just been impeached for causing an insurrection. The treatment is removal of exposure. He's going to be out of office. He's been banned from social media platforms from propagandizing. So maybe over time. That removal of exposure. We'll settle things down or it's just going to be a bloody shit show for the rest of how ever long as fucking country survives and i hope they keep arresting these insurrectionists these seditionists as examples of rural vosugh anyway. We're doing little promo swap with an old pal this week. I've known conan o'brien for over twenty five years. And if you like me if you like this show if you like conan you'll like conan o'brien needs a friend i've been on his. Tv show like dozens and dozens of times. But i was on one of the early episodes of his podcast and now he's had all kinds of other people on. Its where conan just gets to hang out and be himself so go. Check it out. You can listen episodes with everyone from michelle obama to tom. Hanks to me where. I told him that he'd probably do okay. With this podcast. Thing new episodes of conan o'brien needs a friend or out every monday. So subscribe and listen wherever you get your podcasts. Okay kate. Winslet is an amazing actress. And i had a very good time talking to her. New film. amanite is now available on digital platforms and blu ray and in selected theaters. She's also starring in the upcoming. Hbo detective series mayor of each town. That comes out in april and this is me talking to the amazing kate. Winslet kate winslet's hello mariah fine. I'd love a cup of tea in half hour room service round heads just so my husband. He is a very good husband. Actually that would be disturbing. Yeah don't worry no no no no no no. Don't come in nazi. We'll be recording. Okay all right no the end be great gonna fight gonna know. There's no way we can do sometimes but it's normally over like who fed the dog. Go the big stuff. Tom funny argument not not very long ago. Which is over something so stupid. It was like who finished the last of some kind of thing. I've made the fridge joel. How far echo. How bad did that not know very far. It was just like one of those dumb lockdown groups that makes sense just like its complete waste of energy. anyway. I am yeah. Today's like i woke up in. Walk down frenzy aggravated. You know actually well actually we'll start agitate it because i didn't sleep very last night. Why what do you think what's happening. No nothing i mean. No no specific reason. Although i did dream the i got vaccinated and that it didn't work. Oh maybe i was woken up out of that. Well they had done. They had put the vaccinations. Benita gordon's into my arm vile had gone in taken. The needle and the liquid was school spraying or labor. Like me all over the floor and then no one seemed to know how to cope with it. What do so. They couldn't work out whether they should re vaccinate me. Just half of. I'll just discount about one and just do the whole thing ever again. How my god should i. It was it was very anxious making just because nobody knew what. The protocol was not. I found really scary. That's a global problem well precisely streaming about the what the world's clearly there's no protocol are what is the protocol there. Are you getting them. How's it working. So at the moment they are as quickly as they can vaccinating over ninety s and eighty s on and key workers in healthcare workers. Right so my father has had his summation he's eighty one so she feels like a huge relief. Either the for his first does So that's it. Yeah i mean. I don't know whenever we know we'll just wait. Wait to turn i think I think that's why. I think that's causing me. The the most anxiety knowing it's out there and that they can't figure out a way to get it to everybody efficiently and quickly and we have to wait for months. You know living in the same system knowing that we could get some relief striving me. Yeah i know. I know i know i think canada seemed to have. They seem to be ready to get everyone vaccinated. You know I'm i'm ready to move. But i can't even run away now. We're not to run away anymore. It's like justin trudeau. Just send arden like go. It's crazy man. i'm worried i'm in the uk. Yeah south we live on the south coast of england so we all really lucky that we are when the ocean. We have some nice outdoor space and Yeah we're we're we're good. We're wise yeah. How many kids are with you. How many do you have there. And they're all again nuts. Well no they're not. They're not actually not too bad. I mean my daughter is twenty. She's actually enormously. She's enormously helpful around the house And then i have a seventeen year. Old son just turned seventeen. So he's all excited. Because in england you can't start to learn how to drive into the seventeenth. Now right will not able to have an instructor. Just beat him. My husband on that quiets driving around And then there's a seven year old who just thinks that it's so great that everyone's just around all the time and the older people to do. Yeah we'll be people to drumming and lego with him. I mean he couldn't be more. It couldn't be more thrilled. Wait you were in the pandemic movie. What was i was. So so was my god. That's right doesn't end. Well for you know doesn't agree with me. It's all what i did quite a lot. I wanna lots of fun doing contagion to tick you that moment. Because i get slung into a ditch in a body bag which was i had to hold. My breath was like a plastic buddy by could see me throughout my couldn't help but almost every take one i on just say does my bum. La big business. I'd say don't typically vein nonsense crop. Yeah but i wasn't. I wasn't contagion which you know. I have to be completely honest with you when covid really had i was wearing a mask a way before i was in philadelphia when we went into during the show for. Hbo and people were staring at me. Funny because i was right away. I was like it's coming. People and i was walking know street and in the grocery store with my with my mosque on people thousand percent looking at me like i was quite strange the version and the weird resistance to i mean people in asia have been wearing them since ours. I mean i used to see people on the plane. Asian people wearing masks thinking like what's up with that and now it's like well now. Everybody's got to do it. I don't have a problem with it. Well i don't either. The only problem i have with it is i just feel really side. That for a whole generation might seven-year-olds generation and even young in those children are gonna grow up bring wearing mosques to nursery school kindergarten. I mean that's what makes me sad. Not touching door handles right. You're talking friends using a year of or however long this is gonna take i. I don't have children. So i imagine it must be very difficult to know that these formative years whatever part of their life there in are going to be sort of you know law. That's right and i think particularly for you know young people in their early twenty s i think for those individuals who you know have been been hearing the parents say for years. These are the best of your life going off to colleges and a really exploring true selves and suddenly you know that back at home with mom and dad and it's a it's it's it is sad. It's very sad. And i think it's gonna be hard confidence wise for for those young people and Worry very very hard but it will continue to. I am coming out. The other side. In regaining confidence connecting with the true selves again. I think that will take time. I'm sure yeah. I find that. I'm just i'm i'm i'm fifty seven and i think that this isolation business has really helped me and connecting with my true self. It's not great. But i did like connecting with the side of myself as become obsessed with sweeping the kitchen floor like more thought about. It's about having a little bit of control. Kate in a world that's out of control that's true that's very true very true but i liked the fact that you know it's just me that does it because because i'm the one that can do the fastest and probably the best right. You're the best at it. Don't know actually my seventeen year old is a pretty good sweep is going to be honest. competition guy. you're having a good time. I've been like. I just realized when i was looking at stuff about your like your going. You're doing this this arc with With cameron you're in this avatar movie right. This new one like you're back with that guy point the reason i bring it up because i he had me. Come down there to the audition for something to look at me for something. I had to go down there to that city. He built the city and stage. Yeah right but it was the weirdest thing it's like you know i walk in. And he's like we've got a we've got actors working here all the time just to you know flying around and stuff so if you wanna just come into a set and we'll just do it. I was like what the fuck is happening here. So i have you been what are you. Have you spend time down there. And he is he making like what twenty movies at once. What's happening i to be honest. I slightly lost track of how many he is making it. Once i did. I did to a once in tandem with him and I'm an all of my work was actually in twenty eighteen. But they're still shooting shooting the live action portion of it now obviously they beheld cova etc But it was cisco's yeah you're right. It's an extraordinary experience. You know you go into this. Feels like a huge souped-up aircraft hangar. Anything is possible. You wanna fly today you wanna you wanna get on an illu. You wanna do some spear fighting on the water. Show that but it was. I mean it was wonderful for me just to be part of something. That's such a well oiled machine with great people. Incredible technicians and autism To be part of such a fantastic story doing underwater work. Yeah i'd most of my work was underwater. Yeah not just on the water in it but under it I i loved all of that. I worked with some extraordinary performance. Who are set to soleil water performance. Who who did a of the doubling work underwater so to be honest i spent a lot more time with those people actually than than than some of the actors And it was just incredible The trading on the whole process. That like he's got like a little museum setup where he's got the titanic down there. Yeah he has which. I didn't get to go to my husband and my children were like how we saw your address from the blah blah blah. I'm like that's good exists. Go cubs convinced that trash that he's got the boat and everything. Yeah yeah yeah yeah they. There's a there's a whole there's a whole there's a whole visual archive down there. Which is quite that. Apparently quite spectacular. What what what was it. Like in just hooking up with that guy again though i mean. That's how many years is that. I i mean the intensity of whatever you guys went through when you were a kid it must be. There must be either post or exciting or at least very least emotional It was really it was amazing to be. It was amazing to be collaborating with jim again because both older so much time has gone by But also with avatar is got a lot more time to make that not pace graham he ever had with titanic. Yeah clearly there so filming two and a half years later yeah years later and Until i think. I think there's just a process that he's entered into a rhythm is just just really quite relaxed and also because he's so intricately connected with entire world because he created it This is sort of a confidence in hand on that sort of breeds collaboration and conversation. And it's it was great. Was it really. you know i'd walk. I remember walking into the room on the first day of hassle. Vacs barrel sat around the table and enough because most the machine the first one you know ten years ago all known each other forever so i will into the room and jim said i just need to warn you before we go any further. We've all drunk the kool aid. So you will be speaking. Not the you know within the next half hour. And i wanted to. What what what does he mean by that. But but you know this. This appropriate massive experience to be had that and It was quite fascinating in the. I loved being part. It was really very special time. Where did you not like. Has he changed a lot. I don't know what the process was. Titanic and i know you were so much younger but like he me. When i met with him i i. It was almost surreal. Because i i i. I couldn't believe. I was meeting with them but he seems very intense but very accessible. But like did you find like did you guys fall into a groove. Or has he changed. You know he's definitely changed. But then when you just said is really interesting you very intense but accessible absolutely you know. It's like he's like a scientist. Jim is a you know i. I always said if ever there was a global crisis there is one person. I'd want to be with mass jim cameron and that's that remains the case. Where is he now of. That remains the case. He just didn't feel better or to you or do you think some the. He has some magical. He always knows what to do he. You know but what i will say what. I will definitely say that a miss was true. Change that i saw in him. That made me laugh and made him laugh as well. He would never admit when he'd gotten something wrong. I'm not completely changed so on avatar. We were doing this war to work and they were trying to build while complicated sort of bridge floating lowering floating bridge structure for the camera. And you know it needs to be like this. trust me. i've done is thousand times a full. Do this do this do this. This and then hundred percent didn't work be very quickly was like okay. Well that blows my bath rejigged dog. That was a definitely a new character. Was like i'll get you admitting that you i didn't work. Yeah it was really cool. It's really cool way. You would think you know you work on something for like ten years you would be humbled by attempts quite pan out but like how old were you when you did titanic Tend twenty one on not shaved. And leo turn twenty two. I'm now forty five. And he's forty six i. I interviewed him with the with brad. Pitt there was the two of them. It was chris michael and they'd just come out of some other event and they were all electric so two major movie stars being electric. And i'm just sitting there trying to get my tape my recorder to work. But he leah really brought up. He said that he knew the exact day and time that that his life changed. You know because. Of titanic like like. He remembered the day he walked out of his house to go to the store and there was a satellite truck. They're ready to film gods. Yeah but you seem like that was a moment for you or you. Just you just bailed on it but you knew that could happen. Well i think. I mean when we say it's really funny. I think i went into self protective mode away because the similar thing happened to me. All that satellite truck it was. Just you know 'cause and calls for lives in a british tabloid photographers photographing me. Going and buying a pint of milk and a newspaper not was just weird. I mean i it was it was. It was like night and day from one day to the next and also i was subjected to quite a lot of Of sort of pastoral physical scrutiny. And i was criticized quite a lot the british press. Were actually quite unkind to me. And i felt i felt quite bullied. If i'm honest. And i remember just thinking okay. Well this is horrible and i hope it passes it did and it did definitely pass but it also made me realize that if that was what being famous walls i was not ready to be famous. Thank you know definitely not so so and also the other thing too is that because i was so young. You know it's all very well being in a huge great film and being oscar-nominated and so blessed and all of those things that i was saying and saying saying over and over again but i was still learning how to act any been doing it since i was seventeen and so i still felt like i wasn't really ready to do lots of big hollywood jobs. It was accused responsibility. I you know. I didn't wanna i didn't wanna make mistakes. Wanna blow it. I want to be in it for the long game. You know so. I did strategically Try and find small things. Just so i could understand the craft that iran so understand myself a bit that are and maintain some degree of privacy and dignity and try to nice things totally. Yeah exactly And then i have my daughter. When i was twenty five and sort of all of that sort of stuff kind of evaporated a bit in terms of failing watched in whether i cared about it i just kind of went away because they were like because was my child. You know and that was all that you're saying that they weren't interested in you. She's got a kid now. let's move on. Well maybe yeah they definitely they would definitely less interested in me and i'm not for show and that's the twenty year old. She's twenty now. Yeah so like at that point. You say you've only you were only acting a few years. But yeah i mean it seems that you were surrounded by actors all the time that you grew up in a world of actors. Well i didn't i. Didn't you know it's really interesting with british actors. You know because because well in my case. Because i speak well. People often think there's a huge pedigree in training that comes underneath me and actually i was from fairly working class background and grew up in a crowded terraced house on a busy main road and in reading. Berkshire where i'm where i'm from. My dad was active but lately he was also he was also a christmas tree seller. He was a postman. He was a. He worked for tarmac thumb. You know he is a van a small company so he was frustrated actor absolutely very very much. My question is like it's like people who are just using this as a comparison like if you grow up in a house where somebody smokes and and you know either. You've become a smoker or you end up hating smoking so i can see the struggles you know. Your father was going through as an actor was said. Well i just imagined that i would have. I would struggle as well. So i would. I actively remember thinking to myself account. I'll go to get a decent A well paid part time job with a nice boss who lets me take time off if i have to go on Are really remember thinking that. How will that. I never anticipated about fourteen. So you knew you wanted to do it like your father was. Did your mother act as well know. My mother was not an actress. No announced the woman who put up with actors. She was the woman who tolerated all my poor. Poor mom But her parents. This is very odd because she really was quite shy. My mother never would've wanted to act but her parents were actually both actors which is which is strange and she had she had full brothers and a sister and a couple of brothers were active as well and my father was a friend with one of her brothers which is why they then met With interesting it's kinda like that weird kind of You know you you you kind of you get relationships with with with things that are comfortable from. Your child was sort of stuck in an actor. Luke dina it's it's funny. I mean there must be something in the genes. I don't know because you know my oldest sister. My older sister act my younger sister. She has five children on my youngest sister but she is also an actress when she's not being. It's just sort of everywhere really. My daughter is now an actress. I mean it's kind of just mad. It is crazy are they. I mean how come you haven't like all work together. Have you like the sisters. No no we haven't. I think i'm probably go to. What with my daughter in about a year's time this up this something that's come up. Yes she's good. Play your daughter if she might he might. She's ready to get really good. She's lot better that i will write. Bloody hell i mean you know. She's really she's really She's quite grounded and very supportive. Just she's unafraid. I feel i was much more afraid intensive when i was outrage we self kind of what seems like. He must've been self conscious if you knew enough to know that when you found the success that would have you know. Launched you into blockbuster movies forever. You decided that you weren't quite good enough. I decided on me. I didn't know. I just i just knew that i didn't know enough somehow. Still had lost to learn But i think because. I haven't been trained. You left school. When i was sixteen and i got lucky so i had a slight insecurity that people also because of that british thing and speaking very well people assumed i had this training this sort of you know underpinning of you know wealth of knowledge and i didn't do were the first roles i did. I did a television job. When i was sixteen years old at a sitcom and then i did. I was cost in. Peter jackson's film heavenly creatures when i was seventeen. My did yeah. That was the first film i ever did. And then i did sense and sensibility. When i was nine gene melanie talk to melanie I haven't spent temporal while but we've loosely kept in touch over the years. I did a show with her. I did seen with her in a show. She's so great yes. He is wonderful. I chess gosh. She's so good she so you guys in that movie. That movie was like you know i. It was one of the like. I feel traumatized watching that movie. I like i remember. The movie is being having a profound emotional effect on me. It's really interesting. Yeah had a hugely emotional effect on my and was seventeen years old. And as i as a first experience a first i went out of the gate just experience playing a part in a film because of the nature of the story. And i'm playing those those to real life characters. It had to be incredibly immersive so it taught me so much about just the process of acting building character and preparation and focus right. You know all of those things which which really stood me in in quite good stead in tons of short sharp injection of sort of education in. How as a as the director did he did. He was amazing he was just it was like a it was like you know it was like working every day with your your big brother william died i mean he was. He was very He was very connected to me and an unknown as as a friend and just really really looked to the whole experience was was very powerful and unemotional. in done and was small independent film made a new zealand. We've filmed in most of the real locations that they have actually taken place you know. It's it's a it's a real story and you know we we filmed in in those places and not you know has that has a has an effect on on new as a young person. You know very special experience and somebody who's immersed in the emotions of the actual story to go to where all that stuff is. You gotta be some weird ritual of. Yeah so if you weren't trained like where did you pick it up like you weren't like did you see your dad work. Did you go see your dad and shows. Did you spend time at the theater as a kid. It's time that the santa. Yes i did. I was in a sort of a. You know a kind of a key kids. Drama company fits company luggage chops. I experienced the feeling of standing on a stage in front of a big audience completely terrified about feeling a huge buzz. You know i definitely had done. But but when i became an actress i never imagined i would. You know be Being films or even on television. I just assumed that i would have a set of struggling. Hopefully interesting life in the theater so the fact that suddenly i was doing films totally mad. So where. where'd you did. You just learn on the job then. I mean was at the process. Because i i really learned on the job even talking about heavenly creatures. Your you're sort of like you know making choices and and sort of figuring out how to get these tools i mean. How did who gave you those. Who told you those were the. This is how you do well. I mean i honestly. I i watched an i learnt and i taped mistakes and learn from them. You know But also i had you know. I i had some fortunate moments with great actors. Leon united sensibility. When i was nineteen years old working with the said and alan rickman and just w- learning how to you know how to conduct yourself on a film sat and how to be with other people behaving in a respectful collaborative way You know which i i was already instinctively doing but seeing it from actor sue much more experienced and wiser and older than myself. That was one of the greatest things of ood because it was. It was really set me up full titanic. You know when i did. Titanic i didn't have any delusions of grandeur. I was going to work. I was playing apart. You know and people will say. Oh my such big film. When i was thinking. Oh god don't don't say that is because make the difference but there's big or small. I'm say the work is the same. And i had already learned that work ethic thing By watching other artisan Other actors from admiral alan. Yeah i mean like it strikes. Me that emma's classically trained right problem yet. Yeah yeah so like you know that. I mean that's a whole different approach. You basically saying you know. And i'm not. This isn't a drudge mental way. Only because like i've been trying i've been doing. Some acting is that you know you come to it that your emotional availability is an actress. Is that you engage. Sort of naturally. You don't like soda actually learn the professionalism of it or to like. Emma is a great actress but she's going to approach it differently than you. I would imagine you know in terms of putting the everyone has a totally different approach in a completely different process. You know and also that changes all the time even changes to me all the time depending on depending on the nature of of the role i suppose but yeah but i've definitely definitely learned on the job and still do i still do honestly. There are still things. That fascinate me. Why the the new movie Amanite is that how you said an night yeah ammonites and like it's like it's very kind of powerful poetic sparse movie. But it's so like you know intense and it's great you're great in it sears. Great movies it's one of those. Who is where i watch my. Who would think to tell this story. You know like where does this from. But it's actually based on a real person Yeah that's right so it's it is it is based on on real people and a real person marianna who i play was She was a a very significant female paleontologist of her time off. Illness in eighteen forty on the jurassic coast of england. The south coast of england. That we shot at so near where you are. Now it's about two hours from where i live And the coastline there is largely unchanged at it recedes every year. It sort of quite a chalky limestone cliff face and regularly have cliff oath that Mary-anne was a formidable woman in a world of science and geology that was dominated by men. Who would these men would buy half fines and reappropriate them as they in discoveries actually put their name on her on her work right on and she she lived a life of extreme poverty and on struggle but she was brilliant. I she did. She found half assed effort when she was eleven years old. She and her brother over year to dig it out And she was responsible for some very significant pioneering discoveries bought because she was a woman no one ever a new anything about her And even today. If you if you google marianne will you try and find a book about manning you will be able to find things about half fines about how work that have been subsequently written over the is But there's very little known about her personal and private life. There's a lot known about childhood. She because of how she lived in this extreme extremely impoverished way with her mother and her father who died when she was ten have a father told her everything she knew about finding And she had a close connection with with him she. She had several siblings died. When i say several like six Six siblings died and to even before she was born smallpox. You know sort of poverty illnesses and so the love story between yasser hurt right is it is invented. Yeah so there's really nothing known do. Do people know there's nothing. There is nothing historically documented atoll about an ings personal intimate relationships with women. There's nothing documented and francis lee a writer and director of the film He came to feel that in telling the story he wanted to give mary a relationship a partner who felt worthy of her because she was such an extraordinary quiet but formidable woman and because she existed in a world that was dominated by men. It didn't feel that it would have been right to para where the man because that's that was the thing that she was struggling against in many ways living in this very patriarchal society patriarchal world Until it felt right to pat her with the woman. What i really love about the story about the the film. I've only seen it once. But what i really appreciates about. It is the connection between these two women that comes out of work. You know at a time when we so often see on film women in marriages to men who are wealthy of the mammo then married off because they need financial security oil to have children to literary children's become apparent but actually exploring this different this different this different type of woman telling this different story about someone who worked on works for every single thing that she had and the connection these women formed through the and mutual fascination and love for it. That to me was something really quite unusual and wonderful and that they they fall in love as a result of that connection over over ammonites over the world of fossils and geology right. But i mean the way you describe it is different than like experiencing it because my experience was that that's the characters husband was in the same profession as you and she was sort of lost in repressed and you kind of Didn't quite know who she was and sickly. And you get stuck with her and you know are there's something about the characters your characters relationships with rocks and with this process of unearthing these dinosaur pieces and her story of her hardness character but it becomes such a an emotionally deep that when when the relationship finally consummates into something that is. You're able to release emotions. It's it's incredibly. You know moving because it's such a quiet movie and i. I don't even like your performance. I mean you don't talk that much. Now i now i know and all the framing of what you're saying about this woman's role in the world it's really obscured by the fact that she's living in this grey life where she just goes out and hammers rocks out there to find things like you know. I can see how it's together in the museum and stuff but her actual day to day life seem. Yeah something akin to like. You know there was some guy. The longing of the whole thing was really too much. So how'd you like talking about work. I mean how do you look at that store. I mean i see how you just explained to me the story and how you read it but i mean do do you rely completely on on what's written to kind of find your way emotionally in that thing. Well mary owning when we see her in the film. She's in her. She didn't herati forties. Jackie died at the age of forty seven. Eventually marianna sadly of a breast cancer But you know we meet her at a time in this story where she is tired. She's living alone with her mother. In quite an isolated private world she was never socially very confident or comfortable anyway largely because people just thought she was this mysterious woman who dug up seaman's. Does you know there was a there was an air of sort of a witch. Or what do you know what is she. She had sort of retreated from society and hidden itself hidden herself away. And as you as you point out. Shaw matches and played by. Sasha ronin is brought to marry because she's very unwell and beth will considered not strong enough for the rigors of an overseas journey that her husband who's also a scientist is about to make so. Yeah as you say. He dumped and leaves behind for married to to mental castle and mary accepts this position because she needs the money. Right saw its wishes so tragic really inside that. Mary was so desperate for the money. But but then shot. It becomes very ill. And it's through nothing shaw to health. Almost like she was her own child That mary realizes that she does feel for this woman. She she feels is women's sadness that something that's happened in her life that has made her quite closed off and lonely and so they connect in this strange sort of Fractured lonely world. They've both been been living in And then as you say. You know mary that there isn't a lot of talking. Mary doesn't speak very much in the film. And it's really interesting when people this out to me because it goes for me. There's a lot going on in had in her mind all the time there was a loss of story to be told and the script was very visual. Very detailed in its description of you know just the space the atmosphere in the room. The sounds of the buds the kraken of the fi the crashing of the waves. It was very very detailed texted script. When i first read at my absolutely loved it for those reasons but yes you'll right the the longing and the very gradual connection between these two women that grows through the affection. They have a one another and on the work that that doing together out on those beaches. Mary teaching charlotte what she can what she knows. And you know it's a story about self discovery because who choose to love can end up defining who we all and at the end of the film marian charlotte as individual women are quite different to the women that you meet at the beginning of the story. And i i love that about it. I really appreciate that about the film. I didn't know what to expect. And i hadn't seen a movie like that in a long time. I don't feel like they make movies like that much anymore. Where yeah and and poetry to it. And there's sort of a visual sensibility. That's obviously very articulated. And thought through and and also like you know once you guys consummate you know your love and the sexual scenes are are are graphic and profound but earned and not gratuitous in any way but you know but very respectful and very raw. You know to see both of those women explode in that type of energy and then kind of regroup is pretty. That must have been insane to shoot. I mean i've been on sets where their closed sets. But it must have been sort of like alright everybody out while i think what was wonderful full session. I about the two people play with the the actress. Playing these parts was that we we were able to access in all Preparation letters real love. Letters that were written between women women who are actually in marriages to men but but what quietly connecting in sort of a sisterhood way spilt over into intense friendship that then would become very intense intimate sexual relationships that would lost a a lifetime and so we once it does it. Very very detailed exp- mation in these letters that we that we were able to ask that other relationship with the woman in town that seems loaded. That might have like. It's not quite explained but it's understood. Yeah it's very clear that marianna had a previous connection with elizabeth philpot who was also a real character in history by the way who lives locally in the town so But you know one thing that session. And i really did fail and talking about the film now. You know it's a i've i've learned. I've just learned so much about what happens when you remove the heterosexual stereotypes from film on. How in films so often. We objectify women in a very automatic way. We're breathing without even thinking about it. And because we didn't have the objectification of women in any way on film it was utterly equal and connected because of the love. These two These two people shaft reach other For me it was almost like a breath of fresh air. You know there was no leader. You know so often you read. Heterosexual love scene hated. The script on the man is the one who's wooing and leading. The woman is flirting or wanting to be taken in some way. You know these these. These things are very automatically written right all very often when reading heterosexual love scene on paper. Say something like the woman's on top dominating. Now why does she. Why kangxi just know what she wants. Why does she have to be dominating you and then we get this sort of generalized description of the woman is a hole. In a way that we would never navigate that same description of all of the male counterpart right and we didn't have any of that in ammonites and that to me was new. It was really new. I just i was like a interested. I just really. It was very interesting and it was a relief to be part of something. That was obsolete. Cool connected and safe because of those things right in because like you don't really. It's almost as surprised everyone when it kind of happens when it finally concerts and also there's so many layers of clothing involved. It's hard to objectify in those days. There were lots of things that needed to combat that is correct well observed but no but i mean the When when it does happen. I don't know that i would have thought about it like that. Because i'm not thinking about it coming from the angle you are but especially given your history with the push back against the type of objectification. I think that like it seems that early on. You realized that you didn't want to have anything to really do with that kind of The way that show business or movies puts people are women in that position. Well i think certainly you know what's really interesting to me. You know. I look back on my twenties and things that people would say about me when i was still trying to figure out who the hell i was on covey. Kate people would talk about me as being different because i was slightly bigger than average. Meanwhile i was like. I don't know Size six or what. I have no idea but but that stuff was so shocking to me. Because i would then push back and say well. This is just who i am. Well then i was labeled as being boldy. I was labeled as their strong headstrong. I'm just telling you that that. I like cobs wrong with that. You know but that's changed now monkey. No that's one area. I would say that. I think we all doing globally. A little better is that we are celebrating real women. Much more you know back. In those days in the nineties you know hollywood was you know completely riddled with With very very slender women who were you know in a way that was perhaps not entirely balanced or perhaps quite right. And i think that's gonna bit now. I think we're having such true. I think when much more able to not comment quite so much not judge you know back. In those days we would judging judging judging all the time and and you doing it to yourself as well because you know the the fix was in on your brain i imagine i mean i think it's a it's a woman. Struggle many women struggle just it without acting just in life to accept themselves. Yeah i that. That's true. And i would definitely say that you know that that you know what doesn't kill. You makes you stronger. And i do feel now. You know as the woman who has played marianne in this film and in being a part of those scenes that we've just been talking about. I feel very proud of my forty five year old self. You know i've had three children. I am who i am. This is a different me. Different physical may to the one that i was in my early twenties etcetera etcetera. And i really. I really felt privileged to be a part of those scenes are not hide any of my true self and even in the film in general just the way you know way my face is now you know i have the wrinkles crinkles that exist on my face. Now i'm proud of those things. You know the the age in the box of my hands of loved lost and i. I really really value and appreciate being able to show all of those things without censorship and without hesitation as well. You know There's a lot to be said for that. And maybe i am confident enough to do that now. You know whereas. I definitely wouldn't have been when i was young. The there's a fine line as you get older between confidence and not giving a fuck anymore about certain things. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah that's true gonna remember la there a saying where when your willingness certain point you have to choose between your ass and your fake something something. I'm just finding with so many things used to seem so important. You know you get to a certain age where you like. How the hell was that. Was i so hung up on that. Yeah yeah yeah you you know. But i thought all that all those scenes in the movies were were were played very honestly and you could feel the honesty of the of the acting and of being in those moments like it really is a special movie and i and and you explaining it to me in the context of cultural objectification and whatnot is really. I mean that's powerful as well. Because i felt what i felt watching the entire movie and i and i found it to be something. Unique in terms of how it depicts women just period in terms of. I mean i'm really That's i'm really thrilled to to to hear that you know because because to me it's it's it's a it's a story about two people fall in love and the fact that they are both women is never explained or addressed with any degree of secrecy affair and for me. That's quite important because you by telling a story in that way. I think we're contributing to hopefully normalizing same-sex connection in films and perhaps you know the progression of how audiences. Lgbtq people in their relationships will slip much more into mainstream. If we're able to tell stories in this way without making secrecy of fair part of the narrative that wasn't exactly you know which is just a dated way of thinking. Quite frankly i. I agree but at this point because it's sort of interesting i was talking to my producer about it. You know the the type of women that you have played in your life. I mean at eight. I don't know who i can't remember. What other actress. I asked us that you do collect a certain amount of of personas. I think that you've moved through a lot of feminine pursue. I think i as glenn close about this. You know what stays with you. You know because if you look at even going into like eternal sunshine do you feel that all these women have moved through you. I mean do you when you look at the women. You've played the different types of women. A bit i do. I do and and it's interesting. Because when i look back over my career you know i always can remember exactly what was going on in my life at the time that i was playing a certain role and and at the time i would have had no concept of the fact that actually i was definitely channeling personal something through a character role or was playing that role. It was that three lines During it out during a tunnel sunshine. I'd have my daughter expanding really independent. You moved to new york. It was just like a time of kind of fun crazy. You know just just felt sort like. I dunno effervescent with life and that definitely all came through in that character. But i do. I do feel like yeah. These women have they definitely should have moved through me in some way. Some of them a harder you know to get rid of others if us than them will well. It was quite hard to get rid of marianna. Actually i'll be honest just because it was quite an immersive experience. She's just so different to me. You know how she physically moves is totally different to me so raining in my own quite busy energy and finding that so the stillness and precision to her with something. That's you know. I didn't i couldn't just do it on the day that came with all the preparation and learning how to fussell huntington learning how to use all of our old tools and understanding how life and living the rhythm of life you know separate my own family which was weird right so those were your decisions. About how move do i iky. They were conscious that you know that that you had to shut these. Things often yourself in order to find her. Yeah and it was very weird and there were days when i would think well. I'm sure didn't do anything. That was any good today. You know i'd go home and think well okay with us. It's not even doing anything. Because i felt like i was being so different to my true self heavy. It was so heavy we did it. It certainly didn't read like you were doing anything. It's sort of like the had heavy energy that sort of like bolted packers. energies has. That was quite hard to create every day. You know i sort of had to do lots of dancing. And then we don't see in the kitchen and get rid of it but when you were in it what you have to focus on in order to get there like her tools. The chair i mean i i i had to. Yes so. I walked with all of those ole tools are i really did. Learn enough to be able to fulfil find myself. Actually found a piece of the next skull myself was able to identify the bat. Was what it was and a possible skull that it was it was actually the a bit of an ice socket and i was very proud of that and i found a lot of ammonites is right proud of those two which i have new of them. it was a little bit. I did get a little bit. I called walk on a beach now without immediately scour even if i know that it's going to be nothing that the country is just become automatic but which it was a wonderful thing to do. Actually you know to really explore what is beneath your feet on some of those beaches and by the way. We filmed on the beaches when mary will have worked. And i trained on those beaches as well so to truly be walking in. The footsteps was an enormous blessing And i just tried to live as much as i could In a in a way that was sort of similar to to how rhythms would have been. I lived in. I lived alone for a sunday nights. And a friday night in this. You know quite blustery. Kohl's radically cottage in lyme regis. Do you feel like this was the most in-depth you got with building a character looking back on all the characters. Well i mean you know. I always have to sort of trae a lot but it was definitely up there with the handful that i can think of the been quite tough. Like mildred pass. Revolutionary road read. It was up there with with with batons little handful. It's interesting because those are the inner life of those characters is really sort of what you're protecting from the surface and that's what's bringing it to life in. It's in a in a way right. Well that's right so off with those cartridges. That i just mentioned that. It's the same with mariana. Get it's it's all. It's all her internal stuff in her. Internal world is actually driving the character. And so you know you can't just sorta invent bent on the day you you know. There's definitely a certain degree of layering and preparing and and really exploring what those things all that. Make that person. The person that the audience hopefully sees. That's interesting because like the character in like little children. That's a person who's who's in. Her life was naive. Yeah yeah absolutely. you're right. that's a great description. New yeah was completely naive. And for an fantastical oxley fantastical and sometimes even unhinged. That's a long time ago. I turned thirty on film the end of shoes. I tend to see what was going on in your life that day during that time. No actually i was kind of doing well. Then i was like yeah okay but i did have little children. I did have children. That was a big geogra- that was huge juggle. I remember my son joe. My son joe was only two. I think she doesn't five. My son joe was any to my mayo was any five. Yeah it was a it was a jock. Yeah and i was in that world. I was in that world of lena. Worked out it fed it. Yeah i guess. But like but it's interesting because i see as the type of actor you are and you know you you are british and like you were saying earlier that people assumed because you speak well and that you had all this training or whatnot. But you don't it doesn't seem like you're you're detached from shakespeare which is unique for a british actor. I don one piece of shakespeare in my life and it was. It was terrifying absolutely terrifying. Oh my god. I don't know that i ever really wants to do it again. To be honest with you you know people say what shakespeare. It's like a foreign language actually. Yeah it kind of is. I did it. And it's beautiful when it's done very very well which never has been by me. But it is a staggering. I mean know. But that's how i have no idea what i was doing. That's so interesting to me. Because that's what that's what makes you unique is that you know because your ability to like i'm talking to you and i assume this is true because you're one of these people i feel like i've somehow i knew because i've seen you for your whole life so like there's a relationship that one builds as an audience with like. Oh there she is. I remember her from when she was a little girl. But it's funny actually. Isn't it hilarious. But there is a visceral engagement that you have with emotional life. That is not that you can't pretend it. You can't classically. Trained that into somebody. And i think it's what separates you know. I try not us. You know like labels or or woods but you know some people often say to me. Oh gee saint your method that method. I'm not laura. I know but but you know but but you'll right like as an actor quite honestly my mo is okay. What can i get for free. Like what can i get out of this situation this costume. This scene this location. What can i get for free. And with mary-anne. I had to take a much as i could. Because it's a character existed in eighteen forty and sometimes you can draw parallels to your own life or bits of your life and sometimes you just can't marry couldn't i had to fully invent the lord of s so getting for free. You mean by like this like this. And i only know this because of doing some a little acting myself as know. You're you're on the set. You're wearing the hat you're wearing the clothes you know you've got and it's sort of like this is all part of the work. I'm not doing it but it's making my job easier. And if i can live in this then then we'll pull this off. Yeah but it can also be woken up about morning. You didn't sleep too. Well you have three cups of coffee and then you feel like crap and you're walking onto the set and you're in that question when you're doing that well you have not set yourself up to wealth of that day so you better down. Well us what you've done to yourself right. You get through the day and sometimes that can also be quite useful or it can just be my had a phone call on the way to work. That just didn't go quite according to plan or i will able to fully complete and it's left me feeling. Some were frustration. That will end up going into the character for that day in some fold it it just sometimes that does happen united frustrating things will throw you and you just rav and go. Oh i can't do it because that happened. Yes they will actually. Maybe i can do it because that happened. Okay what can. I use the free from that i see right. Just try and do that. Well but but but so the trick then is really. Just how do i get president with where i'm at now and services character as opposed to tend or act in a way that's right and so with mary-anne you know i would absolutely not use my phone until the end of each wouldn't even it on because then i would be too engaged with the business of iphone contemporary world. Very old and i wouldn't do that i would. I would drive myself to work. I would stay in my own head space. I sort of created this sort of bunker. Foam marry me to kind of existed Which was quite with hard and you know it was definitely an experience that was unusual in terms of being emotionally absent from my own family. You know I was very much somewhere else. You know. i am just not not not particularly available. That's good monday till friday. It was good but it was. It was hot autumn. And i'm not gonna lie was hard but luckily i've gone off today. Amazing husband too can do everything in my absence on gold. What's it what does he do. Was your husband wrestle. Okay good yeah good. He's just wonderful old. we have to. We have to wrap it up pay but this was great. It was great talking to you. Wait token to you too. Thank you to great love. That and i love the movie and i love the love all the work. I'm a big fan and And good luck with everything you know in promoting this exotic. It should be seen. Thank you very much. Yeah well hopefully okay take by okay. that's it hopefully. We'll see what happens. I don't know. I don't know what's today thursday. I'm not gonna talk to you 'til monday. Holy fuck good luck. Everybody be safe poison guitar now down and And andrew Boomer lives monkey everywhere.

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The Holiday With Juliet Litman, Amanda Dobbins, and Kari Simmons

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The Holiday With Juliet Litman, Amanda Dobbins, and Kari Simmons

"When the Santa Anna's blow all bets are off anything can happen in Washington this spring miles on finding love can be complicated complicated? I'm leaving and nine days. Losing yourself in it. I'm in love with you can be wonderful from the director of something's gotTa give the holiday on. Dvd Blu Ray March thirteenth through obstacles. I'm Julie I live in. I'm joined by Amanda the Dobbins. Hello and making her re watchable debut the One and only carry him and everybody Kerry welcome. Thank you you'll truly. This is my favorite movie movie of all time really of all time. Come okay. I'm done. Harry met Sally Right Below. Sure you've so you put the holiday. But when Harry met Sally in two thousand and six yes yes it did okay. So what is it about the movie that use love so much I always loved holiday can share in love. There's also sadness And this has both in happy. Ending always helps. But I think it's the way it flows in the music. The music is very every moment it together. You feel like you're you're sucked into like when Kate winslet is in the newsroom and it gets really sad and you know everybody's these are breaking down. You know you could just see her breakdown about to happen in the music makes that happen well. The music essential part as Jack Black Jack Black's character and at Burns's characters are both movie score composers which I really enjoy and we'll discuss more but I think that's attention to your point. The music is very important. I mean it's about ten minutes into the movie where we get the first mention of Enrico more. Yeah any more which Jack Black says a like a weird Italian accent. I Love Nancy Myers movies. This is probably my favorite. Nancy Meyers movie. It's it's because of everything that was it but I I love them all she's also John I mean you know as good as it gets Something's gotTa Give It's complicated the parent trap. What else oh father of the bride she wrote does she wrote? Andrew acted this. She has like twenty writing credits and then seven movies. She's written and directed the intern. Which I also love I love the house. They asked all of her house. So now fires houses are icon ick. Yes these we're going to talk about it. This is not my favorite. Nancy Meyers movie. which is just a way of saying that Nancy Meyers is really really important to me and I have? I just have an investment in a lot of her films but the thing that I like about this Nancy Meyers movie is that it's literally about the houses they are honestly literally exchanging houses in the houses are their characters and our major focus. And you know it's become kind of a running joke doc that you watch. Nancy Meyers movies like the kitchens. By the way it's not just the kitchen. She has an amazing I for details throughout the home and often landscaping experience experience. Check out the landscaping and it's complicated stuff. Why but I do? You liked it. This literal is is it. Yeah I also. It doesn't funny because I think it's like two of the worst kitchens in the Nancy buyers. What we're going to have to talk about the decor? It's it's great. We'll get into it this six in between something's gotTa give two thousand three the and it's complicated in two thousand nine And just absolutely all-star cast just absolutely star Cameron the editor. Kate winslet Jude Law. Jack Black Cameos from Ed Burns Lindsay Lohan. James Franco John Krasinski. Kathryn Hahn and dust office. Absolutely it's kind of in that way almost put Nancy Meyers movies into different stratosphere. I feel they became more star studded with this movie and since then it's complicated it had Alec Baldwin Meryl Streep and seed Martin and John Quincy yes and then The intern had Anne hathaway Robert. Deniro I feel like she leveled up with the holiday. Yeah it's a perfect storm of where movies are in this particular moment like they're still making Rom coms in two thousand six and most of them. I don't know Carrie. What's your favorite? The era of romantic comedy. Do you have one. I don't know I feel like I've probably like in the ninety S I. I don't want to speak for Giuliani but I think we agree that it's like from when Harry met Sally through all of the Nora Ephron ones and you know you're my best friend's wedding gets thrown in which actually Juliette hates. But I really like I'm talking. I like it. We'll be live for weddings and a funeral on ninety four. Thank you that is one of my justice reform. No no one else on the staff will do that. We Watch. He's the best I mean. I said he met and I was thinking of few sure. Fresher Curtis is the best to read all that happens and then like the two thousands. When you get into the Kate Hudson era or Jessica Parker era with all respect to both of those actresses like not as great and so this one comes through in two thousand six and still can? There's so making those movies so they can get major actors. But it's also in comparison so much better hyphen. Everything's being is being released at the time. I think that's a good point when you get to the two thousands. The formula is so familiar to us and there's a lot of like just offensive offensive tropes in the early two thousands Rom coms and actually when she was doing press for this movie. They weren't really hard on pressing the UK. It seems like for the holidays all day unless Oh in the. US It's kind of weird but she didn't want to interview with coming soon dot net and they ask ask. Anthony Myers. which remains a romantic comedies? Do you think that you can ever Tampa at the conventions or do you know in the beginning. We need the characters that you'd better have them walk away hand in hand in the end and this is rude question which she handled really wonderfully by saying I like when they end up together but there are conventions in every genre as you know when you go to see James the James Bond movie you appreciate. He's GonNa be alive in the end. They are conventions every genre. It's just how well you do it. You try not to leave a trail you try I to be inventive with it and that is a really condescending question to someone who's Bread and butter butter is Ri- is Rom coms and the reason why she's so good asking you doesn't really deft hand with how she like. reinvents it each time and everything and I thought that was a really good number obvious with her feel well. It's obvious but it's like such a cliche ashamed. But how they get to. The end is really fun and pleasant and enjoyable and distinct like she has her own style weaves into the genre and I just I. Oh I think actually astonishing. How many rude questions she gets like that that are just like why Rom coms or like what is it about Cameron Diaz? And she's like she's really pretty but and you could just sort of talent I think in this press store. She was kind of sick of it and she just sort of like just kind of like taking names and giving her the answers and It's kind of funny one thing. I really like about this movie as well. And it is into the idea of the genre and there by the way every genre has a very set formula. And you know what's going to happen. What does your department of course and then it's kind of it's an eye you had the template allows you to kind of go in different directions and one of the things in the holidays and I had forgotten this? Watch it. It's a lot about like how the movie industry were. Yeah especially between Jack's character and Kate winslet's and the Arthur character who I love who has just given a lot of speeches about like box office numbers and you know how it used to work in the old days. But it's interesting 'cause it's like it's Nancy Meyers working through a lot of those assumptions and all of the the the kind of attitude that surfaces in those interviews like in real time in the least in the movie itself. It's pretty interesting nine movies. He's a Rhode Today. I remember what nine movies would open a month now. A picture has to make a killing first weekend. Or they're dead. This is supposed to be conducive to great work. Yeah I think another thing about her. That's cool is that like doctors like Christopher Nolan and Quentin Tarantino are often referenced. Wrote working at the same group of actors over and over again and it really does too and I I really like it like Lindsay Lohan. James Franco end up in this movie because Lindsay Z.. Lo Han And she worked together on the parent traffic. She's like called in a favor to Lindsay Lohan. She was like I'm on board and then jonker since e and is like Repeat Repeat Nancy Meyers offender and she was like she cycles through a lot of the same people in Iowa. I always liked that in director when they have the kind of like the reps that they work with who else does like with all the stars and one movie this well. It's it's hard to make a cast. That's this big everyone. Everyone was at the height of their careers during this right totally and also usually a bomb when movies like were they do like the ensemble saying he's just not that into you or the love actually which we should talk about a little because I think it comes if years before this movie but it's like you can get everyone famous for like three scenes right and then they all come together at the end and this comes together at the end but it's like two separate story really fully based yeah mostly as baked as you wouldn't around com romantic plotlines and like four real characters does seem like basically there's to release. They're not particularly connected outside of the houses. The themes aren't even then like that deeply tied is kind of weird and then the weirdest the weirdest part is how the fake trailers the trailer voice only appear in cameras. Whistler and Karen Cameron Diaz is story. Yes I find that really odd. I do wonder did she write two separate movies among splice them together in in interviews she made it seem like she did not do that. Scher director's commentary. No I didn't listen. No she didn't. She didn't say that she did that. It's just it's I was just curious if you listened because there were some little nuggets that maybe as we go along I can like them. I'm an just telling us telling you like where some of the homes were. Yeah no she didn't say anything about that though interplay please much director's commentaries. Okay okay okay. Okay Sri into the categories. Let's do it most watchable seen I would say there's quite a few options and also many extended scenes. I I think the most obvious nominee which I know Amanda certainly hated. Is the video store seeing. I kind of didn't love that either so it's not watchable. That's where I thought we Jack Locks in the movie where he and Kate winslet are at blockbuster it looks like we're on the west side and the he's explaining Movies to her based on their scores essentially and then Dustin Hoffman is in the same row as them and he's like a very annoyed it. Have you gone Jodie Marsh. A bet you didn't know it was all written for the movie was a score technically. I can't conclude this one. You have to check your explaining the movie scores. That does really glossed over Josh Jackson. which is that? He's singing them. He's doing badly that no other human has ever made before upgrade. Oh Great. It was rudely. Didn't Dudin screws. Gruden didn't Sassa Zeta. I'm GonNa wait till it got pretty weighing okay. I was just thinking like if I were on that date or like not quite date yet. I would be just like driven. Have you like this is an absolute icon exceeded the movie nonetheless. Okay but I know likes it. GRANDMA AMANDA Jude Law. Aw and Cameron Diaz is first morning after so Amanda I just listen. You don't have to worry about a thing here. Okay okay. I mean it was great meeting you and everything definitely also for the record. You're ex-boyfriend is in my opinion extremely mistaken about you. Well yeah you drunk nor drunk. uh-huh about I think Cameron Diaz absolute absolutely shines in that she does she a little bit awkward and I absolutely love it yeah. Let's her do the screw thing. which is which is what? She's good at yes. I found the the the the cadence of their banter a little bit odd in that scene though I felt like she was always trying to like not Baotou into him and they asked like she wasn't too into him and I feel like I've been in that position before sure we're like you've been attracted someone really like them but you don't want them to know because because then they might give too much. They might not like you or reject you and I felt like that was her her role in this whole thing like I know it was her not being like like getting jolted and then having to share get back with WANNA jump right. Some detention in that for me is that Cameron Diaz is power is actually in that very physical Kinda goofy yeah. She's like an extraordinarily beautiful person. Who then is sort of silly in her humor humor and when she's supposed to be playing like a very together control-freak type type of person? I don't know that's not what I associate with. Funny Cameron Diaz us so when they finally let her let her let loose and be weird and it's like feel slightly more natural. Sure I think I think also. It's just so uncomfortable. Because did you lost so hot so she really becomes. He's wearing his glasses which pop up throughout the movie and it's just like glasses ever by the greatest lover. He was kind of early. The plastic glasses in two thousand phillies. Two hundred. Five wasn't a full on worby parker time yet. That's true so shout out to them. It's just like an elephant in the room when I'm watching an elephant in the room or is it just the tax so she uh-huh I appreciate just sort of like how. How is this real like how? So how is this guy actually real. I mean it's just an incredible. I'd really a magic. He's so handsome comes out of nowhere door in the middle of the night. And all of a sudden you're having sex with this you don't know with the death she doesn't know yet but just like absolutely just overwhelming autism. The movie distraction every scene. He's in I think I think that one. I I particularly like because They're operating on different frequencies really like she awkwardness. Yeah I think I love a good story. You know like like that so I think it's a great Dane Some other nominees. This scene where she finally goes to jude. Law's cameras goes through loss house and Soon finds out that Sofi Anna Livia are his daughters and not other women. You won the daughters really shine through one. They care to cutest little. I mean they couldn't have found two more beautiful little kids British. It really does show if you did see we could push skimmer it also they. They call both of them out on. Thanks which kids really true-to-life. They seem. They seem a little bit too. Well adjusted for having. Their mother just have died a year ago. Yeah they did. Yeah that's in my nitpicks action. If I I just want to have this scene. Written Down Jude Law's Adad. Which Kinda sums up the appeal when he's doing the Glass Nascar Fan lower than that so so high yeah? You're so nice to his two daughters. I was just like okay. This was crafted in a lab to be able to a certain person. That person's made all women. I know it's really. It's just like every single primal signal that it can send is sending house like this incredible and he also has a really nice house even you see him like in his own the environment. Yeah it's even it's even more like Holy Shit this guy i. I can't believe it are any of other scenes between Jack Black and Kate winslet and Eli Wallach even worth mentioning. I like this scene when Kate winslet IRIS IRIS PICKS UP Arthur Arthur to go to the W. and then his little w j just say it's sweet. I like when she helps them in the pool when he's the only had to walk but that part of the movie dinner scene which one with. It's like all of his other. The Hanukkah who are slum love agreed Hannukah meal is a great eight hundred a meal. I actually I like that plotline. Perhaps more than other plotlines that he's a part of I'm defending. I'm defending that. I had that the the last thing on awesome. It gives her the last time. I had a date. This is what we do. So if it's going it's going to ruin your own. You don't have to wait. I Gone I'm looking for Corny in my life. Yeah Lady I know it's so fast I was like a real. La Story to befriend your taber sweet person event of any age. Or you know wherever they're from very sweet but I don't know that you can't. You can't contend with that you'd like Cameron Diaz in my opinion what about the scene when Cameron Diaz as driving to the town. Oh she's like so scared that just GonNa hit all the car and then she liked comes uh-huh around that corner and the downtown in like just misses hitting Jude Law on the bike and pulls right in front of the little grocery store and then she's drinking the wine and my favorite funny. I had camera alone in the cottage when she's just like trying to figure out what to do and is swinging the wide instead instead of beanie hat on the bed yeah yeah just Solo Solo. Funny Cameron Diaz. I think as I was watching Cameron Diaz moves and they came out. I didn't appreciate her for being a great comedian physically and and otherwise but she really is like a great comedic actress. And I WANNA make sense if you look at her movies. The mask something about Mary Mary. My best friend's wedding. I mean body comedy. Yes she is. She like owns her height in a way that gives to her comedy right through. Hello well. It's just unfair that now you can just wear those long coats and make them look like those bragging on the floor to me. I know but like she made his coats hosts look good. She did that very very thousand five also very west side of La. Yes yes. Yeah you're right definitely going to a type that I recognize now that I live here. Yes yes absolutely. And I believe that Myers was in Brentwood where Her house is supposed to be media south so it all makes sense all right. It's a carrier going with that kennedy-esque yes driving. Yeah Amanda do bad issued Lock Cameron Diaz morning after great so we all we all agreed it's Jude Law and Cameron Diaz movie movie next. What's the best? So I think we have to just began talking about exchange dot com says. Your hair I think you could make the case for both best and worst but I'm going best on this one. The concept of just living someone else's home was not mainstream. It you can baby. You would like rent for two weeks. Yes that would happen but then it's just a thing that people do on a whim which the timeline in this movie is something I'd like to discuss. That's later on but is totally validated by the last five years absolutely and also it is as seamless now as they made. It seem you show and you go in and you see what you find and your other really excited or really bummed out. You're like fuck. I should have picked a hotel but it really does age it does. I was pretty impressed. Los Angeles at Christmas. I think truly underrated times to be in Los Angeles an absolutely wonderful time here and it looked great in the movie it did they did that. Justice isn't like I think people understand how quiet again and how it's like. There's no traffic when she pulled on. This is going to be a nit-pick for later. But when she pulled onto sunset off of the P. C. H.. From here our you know you just you got that VI- no cars were around. And it was a happy and they were playing of course Christmas music. Yeah but it is kind of Nice to get to wear a coat at night and feel chilly and then like the warm sun during the a day and sell listen to Christmas. Music December. Great Time visit Los Angeles. She made a good choice but also as the best celebrating the art of movie trailers. Yes I feel like in two thousand six. We were still making the corny movie trailers the voice over as evidenced in cameras trailer work but the movie does show that there's an art to it and now we spend all our time just talking about how great trailers are and literally. The ringer did a trailer racket about the best trailers of the decade. This ruby in two thousand six new. The trailers were imported. There's also that great moment where she's watching the Lindsay Lohan Ron. I think yes little little o'hanlon where she was like. Yup that's seems like a good movie and that's why the big box and it's like yeah like you can do a lot of work through a good trailer to mask. The fact that a movie socks yes and I like that was sort of like the cynical. All side of the movie appreciation comes through that funny line when she's I think she's with Catherine hot and John Coogan John Krasinski and she's like now looks like a hit. Yeah Make It red. It's it's a really good point. Yeah it's like very invested in in the changing landscape and like athlete. The right moment probably in two thousand six I also like while while they're invested musical scores. I did think the score was very lovely. That's that was mine. I was about to say like. That's what age the best. Yeah that Hans Zimmer. Yeah he makes a lot of good scores really does but then they added like the white stripes when she's like dancing on the bed and they had like I don't know there was like James Taylor Yeah Merry Little Christmas and I mean every saw. Every Christmas song was raised kind of cute up perfect. Yeah they have. The Phil Spector album and they do. There's a well I guess you send me an referring cover which is not Chris Music. It has good taste in music as well as the score I agree. I picked up Zoe from the train last night and I I had the music on and I wanted to see if she knew what movie it was and she did all right. It's just it's driving me crazy. What is this what is this? I'm like come on give it a second. And I like moved another soundtrack like and whatever and she was she knew. Because it's so funny definitely in Italy a recognizable soundtrack. Yeah and conveys like a feeling that is very Nancy Meyers and very the holiday. What else to handsomeness? Yeah I put that up blasting. It's unbelievable timeless. I also say he. Dresses is very much timeless as well as just like hot guy. It's also hot British guy. It's taught tweeting British guy and if every man we knew started wearing those blazers I think it would be a problem. It just won't happen here and there you have no chance of being attracted to anybody because all the same good. It's at least worth considering England. Did you because you can up your probability of meeting guide a tweed jacket like one hundred over Kroger. Are you taking notes okay too you can get it sure Boston professors maybe go for square by feel like most professors aren't actually hot. But whatever they were they'd be actors like Jude Law consume it really is unreal. Like when I think about this movie which I really love the first thing I think about how hot he isn't in like that's I can't think of another movie that except maybe once time. Hollywood which is quite as defined by one person's hotness. I agree one hundred percent. It's just outrage any. When and I was thinking about who like what made this movie? That's what it is. It's the like I look forward to seeing. You love my boyfriend's from this movie. I fascinating to me though I I understand that July is just objectively hotter than Hugh grant like. I get that I acknowledge that there was room for boats in the world and in my heart but wait he is giving you the same kind of tweedy British appeal. That hugh grant is though less less. He's you grants. France got little or sanded off. Also I like a pretty person like both to Hugh Grant. He's pretty handsome. He is banned. He was I look at him. and I feel like Jude. Law's mine if I've never been interested in new ground. Okay all righty. That's let's you know everyone agree to disagree. I don't know he just just never. I never believed it like a true heart hearthrob. Carry them really. Glad you're here. Thank you for being with me. What isn't a funeral? Hugh grant like the hottest rants ever worked my brain to impressionable age to be quite looseness and four funeral. I well I think that also works right brain. Julie wasn't that's comcast or maybe there'll be session Well I think I think we all agree definitely inches. Yeah Yeah What is the worst? I mean the newspaper the newspaper blockbuster Mr there's also like all the the DVD collection. Yeah the blackberry. See although I will say I really miss my blackberry. My favorite phone I ever had was blackberry curve in two thousand nine. Just an incredible found great communications not good for the inter-napoli who who cares texting email can bring it back. I know I couldn't I couldn't anymore. You you know. So you Smith iphone but I do go blackberry and it was kind of ahead of its time to actually blackberries peach and dozen eight six was slightly early. I had some questions about and how their phones worked internationally though. Yeah they did not seem concerned with international dialing rates like especially in the you know the C was pretty bad right kate. winslet is going between Cameron Diaz and Jude Law and listen. These are all unbelievably wealthy. People who have no concerns for finances evidenced by the fact they live in perfect mansions chains and just fly off on a whim all the time but I did also have thought about the international phone. Call Plan Yeah I. I was confused about that. And that's something that now. It seem less but was certainly not thirteen years ago. I also think One of the best moments was Jack. Black candidate her a handed Kate winslet a Frappuccino from coffee tea leaf and said this is the best drink in town and they're in the blockbuster that was so so funny because I had never been to. La when in this movie came out. And so I only read about coffee and tea leaf and us because Mary Kate Nationally went there all the time and so it was. It's such like a hallmark of two thousand three two thousand four like in the tabloids but I had never actually experienced it and seeing it. Now's was really funny Kinda sad because they're not around as much. I've kind of pulled out of a lot. Yeah I think also like just those drinks people are health conscious now. It'd be like I'm having an in La although the chocolate one is not really the one that they had him she's like he wants to dollops of one. That was sweet Tachilek. That was about it. I was just showing how she doesn't care either. I love that about her character and I've seen like a little more less health J.. That was actually in the Nancy. Meyers commentary. Oh what'd she say. He said they when they judged up her house in it. Cuts walls that they made sure to put like lots of candy and things that you wouldn't see in a lot of women's homes out to make it seem like she was more warm Less of a less caring about being assigned to sure and yeah and I mean. She proved that when she was with all the front beyond that she. I wish I for what's actually the Elliot House is very well. I think that is still a house that you'd be happy to live. Yeah it's in San Marino it's by famous Probably architect Wallace Nath. It's right by Pasadena. Essentially that's the exterior newsy her throwing Cameras throwing talking to Ed Burns when he's outside and she's unlike like the balcony. That's that's the exterior house and it is like a really lovely classic Spanish architecture. La Him I one hundred percent agree with this dream. La Home for me now. May I talked about the decor in terms of the worst. Sure why they're literally. I honest to God. I don't think they're pine cones. I really think that they are dried. artichokes jokes like spray painted in bulls around the exterior interior cameron. Diaz is either. I mean amandas home. I didn't either until the rewatch and I was like the couches. Are once you want. It's it's a little more and maybe this is supposed to reflect the character. It's kind of like office hotel. She he was more stuff sterile. Yeah Yeah exactly. But then there are actual artichokes in bulls in in the home. And I don't know what that is but that's not what I watching the. NC Myers before as really really bad about that. It is kind of weird. It's almost like a the kind of decor you'd find in a pure one but you shouldn't have in your home this year but you but you don't have to else I was just like the inside was kind of other than that. Like in some ways. Unremarkable like you have a lot of built in Zain then at like how much was like nice but it didn't have like a distinct. It wasn't wasn't rich enough it wasn't wasn't didn't have enough like wasn't like luxuria. Yeah it in the House and it's complicated like feels so lived in and and Yeah that's yeah it's amazing Carey. Do they talk about it. All on the director's commentary that it's a set that the interior earier. Yeah the yeah. Yeah they were complaining that I think there was one scene when Kate winslet was the part where she comes into the house and she's so excited and then she goes and jumps on the bed. Yeah and I guess that was her idea to jump on the bed but it was. That scene was supposed to end in the bathroom which they apparently built. Oh God and then they never. And that's got to be a bummer. Right Oh my God. The budget was eighty five million dollars. Which is insane to make worldwide two hundred million okay so back pretty? Well not like gangbusters but I did pretty well for Tom and I just felt like General Cameron Diaz is like the spaces cases in her home. Just didn't really feel remarkable. The England houses so much more memorable staircase. Yeah it's cute calming down the little staircase and you think you're gonNA hit your head like I just like those cozy little places and then there's like a fire little mini fireplace. Yeah it's very true. We are also three people living in La something cozy which is very true. I also thought it was funding. Has she was cameras like wear her like hat and mittens inside. I feel like that is also very. La Things sounds like no places actually very well Heated so you're always cold in. She probably just like us to do that at night and it was. It was pretty funny. In general I think aged twelve. Oh what can I just nominate one metro bomb in the middle of a Jack. Black as romantic address is just not that does not in two thousand in nineteen. That's a great. That's a great like he was having a moment. Maybe I know like school of rock was a thing. Yeah you know that. He was a comedian he was popular. It makes sense. It's like a softer like jude law. And you've got Jack Black. Got Something for everybody but I know in two thousand nineteen. I don't know I don't know what's what's going on. Well this is a great transition into casting. What if okay not a lot of casting? What after this movie because Nancy Meyers insists that she wrote it with Kate? winslet and Cameron Diaz in mind in very early on Jack Black and here's what she had to say about it. I thought he was someone. I'd like to write a poem apart for and I'm aware he's not Clark Gable. He's not tall dark and handsome but he's adorable. He's lovable. It's my way of saying this is the right kind of guy. This is what most guys look like if they're lucky. He sowed horrible and why not everybody has a heart and serves fall in love and he she. You got a great girl so I fixed mode Kate winslet. I think all of that is true. Yeah except UAE or you making him sing weird scores blocked by an error goofy faces. Yeah just the horn off. I liked. This movie is about movies like I'm a nerd. I think that's cool or whatever but when he's just like wandering wandering around singing random scores from like driving miss daisy like no thank you know live eating there is there is the every man and then there is just lower extent. I probably coming off of tenacious. D In School of rock. Maybe maybe a little bit different. I feel yes persona at the time was just a guy who sings in movies and like has the worst thing that's ever been said the little overacting we land like he he's going he's kind of annoying like I. I'd be friends with him. I just wouldn't ever want to kiss him. I wouldn't I just don't see that connect with one point. Mr Watch where. I was rooting for Kate. winslet together with Arthur. Because I'm just like this is an interesting person who's lived a life and who respects you. And who gets you a corsage Josh. And who isn't like all other thing about this character is that he's in like thinks he's in a relationship with some dumb actors for the whole time. Yeah and he only realizes this is the kate. Winslet is the person for him like with five minutes to go in the movie beyond what Kate winslet. Anyone deserves. True it's better than that. It is true although although I like that actress she was in forty days and four. Nine saatsmen yeah. No disrespect to her ashes. Playing apart. Sure I've said my piece I agree. I agree with you but I think that's the point. That's that's how she wanted it. All right. Does it might not track but I think that was the intention. Okay I mean right now. I think that that's true. So you know. That's that's that's where the movie Kinda hits hits. The Wall I the Cameron Diaz Movies Way Out in the Kate winslet movie. But you don't feel that Kate winslet I like it makes you like her more have already invested in her and now she liked. You can tell that she has a thing for Jack in the sometimes when a very pretty free beautiful girl. That's smart and funny lakes the guy that Kinda seems like he has no business dating her. I'd like them. Were yeah that yeah yeah a little four. It's four love it's a share. I think that's really true and let me be clear that my objection to Jack Black is not in any way Jack Black looks like or even that you would date a funny guy but this character is really annoying ink and they don't have any cash. They seem like nice friends. Yeah they seem like people like like she has made some friends in L. A.. And that's nice character who i. I actually think that is very good in the got a great she makes acting within. It's basically like this character is spoke to settle for the friend. She's more totally. That's that's that's my objection with ice. I support it. Okay it could have recast him. Yeah but I had the whole idea of who I thought could. Let's go. I thought maybe Matt Dillon Because he had just this come. I think wasn't deal in question. I he's he's very good looking. Yeah and he was slightly older at the stager Ren he's funny. It was funny in something about. Mary was a jerk though. I know but I feel like it's his chance to not be a jerk. Lazy Rom Com beautiful girls. Yeah great movie right. He could have been that character a little bit but with. I don't know the only thing I might not have bought it and was him playing piano as he doesn't seem to call to me. I think Jason Segel would be perfect. Remake Oh oh also another guy. That's probably not good enough. Good looking enough I maybe under him. Yes I remember saw spot for Jason Segel and also things like dramatic. I feel actually would have been a really good knocked up. I liked that he was knocked up and forgetting right. Sarah Marshall Okay. That's what it was like that character would totally fit. Yeah yeah I I don't know I just I love Jason Segel personal pet PET INTERESTS Like I said there's not a lot of cats this like every every interview is like insisting that she had it with those two in mind uh-huh the two event in that July that then she like wanted to write a character for someone like Jack Black and jude law like she said they had like chase up change some things for him. And the way that both Cameron Diaz and Nancy Meyers talk about Jude Law. Taking on this role is just sort of like the subtext is can jude law. Play a good guy. I like a lot of questions about can. He be appealing and endearing. We're just we're just pretty fighting and I will also say I realize jude law is does not seem like a particularly wonderful human to me. Don't have don't have a lot to base except for The tabloid stories but his various relationships I once saw him at the high with Arc. Light just how rakishly leaning over the counter. You're having a very engaged enthusiastic. Conversation with the staff of the ARC. Light about how the assigned seating work now angry or no. No no this is so I can choose any seat okay. Like a year and a half ago. The movies years I'd Arkley and his pants crop. I just want to let you know oh was like five inches above the ankle was great. It was a turn off. Sorry Craig also crappy. You've got a little July one right thanks. That's really funny. So that make you like more more so much I was just like wow I wanna be a part of this. He because he was just he was there to experience cinema. And Yeah people and was so excited that you can have assigned seats and really confidently confidently rock in that crap. Incredible Ankle. So I'm gonna I kind of talented Mister Ripley book totally. Has He ever not had a confident day in his life. It's like probably not may not that's great. It's just like how he lives his life. See Mary to Sienna Miller. Gi well he would. They never got married okay. They were dating the the scandal. Yeah and I think he has like six kids now like forty four women. Oh Jeez recently remarried. Yeah Yeah and they had like a tasteful age appropriate wedding that I read about in the daily problems age both I think yeah. She's younger though. Essentially Twenty six. I think she can't why what is going on. I did a podcast great. You'd lie but it's not it's not on here is I. Don't think he's great. I just think he's extremely high. That's fair can I say one thing about the casting before go which is just the fact that Nancy Meyers was just like I will write a script for Cameron Diaz Kate Winslet and Jack Black and we'll get them them and I don't even have to worry about not getting them is like that says a lot about her and her power and her authority and like not many directors at all. Get to do that. Let it alone. Women Directors so shadow Nancy Meyers. That's what I have to say. or She's really good at controlling the narrative around movie. Either way either way good job. Yeah 'cause I was was like she really want anyone else answer this question otherwise which I thought was kind of interesting too. Because she didn't say she wrote for Jack Black and jude law which wouldn't let any other names into the conversation. I thought it was pretty fascinating too. All right we're going to move on to the Dion waiters award but first let's talk about the sponsors. The Google assistant is ready to help you get more done with just your voice in the car at home and everywhere you take your phone when you're driving and want to listen to your favorite podcast hands-free just say hey Google Taylor latest episode of the podcast. Sure here's the latest episode of the watch confusion about what the morning show and Apple Agudo Pas the podcast a little help hands-free just say hey google to get started all right. There's so many choices for the dion waiters ward so many people doing a lot in very little the screen time we got Lindsay Lohan. James Franko Kathryn Hahn Jonkers Eddie. Dustin Hoffman it. Should we put you walk in here. I was GONNA say she capacity more roles too big but but you know maybe not. She's not on the movie poster. I if you're not on the movie poster friends at the in the what was. I don't know who she was her friends in the newsroom. Who's just like you need to? Yeah no one is friends with extra cheese. Yeah Yeah Yeah No. That was I don't know who it is either. Is Ed Burns on the list. Oh I forgot admits he is he. That's camera media. I guess I would say he wins it. I love Ed Burns. Yeah I agree with you. I I think he's so great and therefore stars of this movie. Everyone is what question person who comes in because guy for a short time and and just like but even goes off. He's Ettelaat sort of yeah queuing. It has three men in her life because she has rufus sewell. Who is the ex staffer? Jasper I mean. I don't even know wasting I have. I have some nitpicks. Then she's got Arthur and then she's also got Jack Black so they're all doing but Jack Black is billed as is the star right and awhile is not on the poster so that's my new definition for the post eligible for dion waiters is. They're not valid. I mean he is obviously not like the focal point of the movie but he does contribute so much. Yeah I I think I probably would i. I think I was going to have to go with I. I don't know it's hard I mean also does does doesn't often even count. I mean he comes in her. I I mean it's hard because these people are for so short but I don't know I kind of enjoy the low hand also saw spot for her. Okay I'm going Lo Han Carey. I just loved Kathryn. Hahn Yeah so her character's name is Bristol stole incredible and that is such an L. A.. But I I just now I see her and all this other stuff and I'm like God that was such a small all perfect back then but I just liked her her vibe so I I go for her all right. Let's great great. And then there's a lot of worthy candidates and this new. Yeah a lot of small small roles for extremely famous people Apex Mountain. This is really just a contentious conversation. I think we have to we. We have to go through all four stars so also NC Myers and Nancy buyers. Yeah Okay Definitely Cameron Diaz is Apex Mountain Dew. We also do. We need you to define. Yeah because you know this gets argued every single time Craig. Correct me if I'm wrong. Apex down when someone has the most objective power in career. Not like if it's your personal favorite. But if it's the peak of their career like just like the absolute best they're gonNA do both like given the context of the movie movie and the movie itself so with all that in mind. Let's go through the four stars and Nancy Meyers First Up Cameron Diaz. Since two thousand sex I would say this is the very beginning of the slowing down of Cameron the ASS. I agree with that I was going to say no. It's not the apex career. I would put that somewhere between honestly. This is so weird is it. Charlie's angels it's like somewhere. There's something about Mary. And then Charlie's angels Joel's because after Charlie's angels Shida Shrek. She does sky. She does gangs of New York which doesn't turn out well but she's Yeah I think it's earlier yeah. I think so too because to say something about Mary that was was earlier that could be because it's like one she becomes that's saying he comes a thing thing and for her future. Potential is highest at that moment probably and that was a ninety eight eight years past peak India's but I agree with you. I think she hits like a really early high plateau from basic basically. It's something about something about Mary. Through Shrek in two thousand one yeah and then from there she very slowly sort of begins to like now. She says she's retired from acting. And I think it begins. Essentially what this movie where she really slows down and in fact during the press for this movie she talks about how she had gone like moving moving to move you that stopping shopping for a long time and she had reached the point where she didn't want to do that anymore. And you want to know watch out to her. She stopped doing it. Yeah so Cameron Diaz firm now next Jack Block. I think this is Jack Blocks Apex Mountain. Wow it comes right after. I think this is the time. Where he's I do? I the youngest laughing at the idea of this. Actually being the best it gets four Jack Black. I think it does because it's coming in the same range range so school of rock two thousand three and then after that he has King Kong which is like also didn't go great but it was like a big splashy movie because people thought he could carry one he has two nations de sprinkled in there and then he goes to the holiday and I don't think it's been as good for him. I'm since he's done a lot of voice acting work sense that I think he becomes like an actor. That's like more oriented towards like Steph. His kids can enjoy but I do think that Jack lack really Peter's heaters off after this movie goosebumps movies. I didn't even know about that. Yeah no that's those are his. I would still argue that his apex at School of Rock. That's when he's in the consciousness is that also likes sets him up for this thing. I think I guess what I'm learning. Is that my definition of APEX. Mountain is the person's like best or most popular movie unless unless they have several of those share and really just has school of rock. I mean he has other things obviously but that is that's the one thing that you associate with him. That's sure sure I agree and also obviously wanted to be a musical like school raucous much equity but I think that you can put like that run from three Dosa. Oh Two zero six together. That's like Jack Doc Black. Okay Yeah I agree with that next. Kate winslet mean. Obviously that's a really hard one to evaluate because she's had so many so many me like peaks essentially. I don't think anyone things the holidays. Her best work our she is very good. And as you said. Titanic no or as I think that catapulted into new level. Yeah Apex though. I don't know Apex Mountain even though she won for terrible movie. Yeah she did win an Oscar for into thousand eight which is after this so but like objectively winning an Oscar as a pretty big deal in terms of being. What are you crying for the reader? Oh I don't even know that move I think I yeah. I've seen the reader and it said during World War Two and I believe that she plays and Nazi who teaches a young tutor. Sounds awful and then I like some weird like sexual definite to yeah and then I do believe they have an affair. Yeah it's like it's like it's not so much she gets she's she's very willing to do nudity. They has yeah yes and I just think that she is really kind of unparalleled she. I think she does make acting seem very easy. Like four. And she's like she sounds like a fun hang she probably is not a fun. Hang but I think she she plays Fund Hang. Well like titanic row. Seems Fun when she's loosens up when she goes dancing downstairs. Yeah remember that she married Richard Branson's narrowing Rolla Nedra a man named Ad Rock and roll and they made their names their some bear and then she was asked whether his name would be bare rock and roll and she was very like no. I'm not insane. His name is bare. winslet's AH good good so good I also I love actress. Who acknowledges like their there on screen husband with their actual husband in the same breath is just very complicated but when she was always like the two men in my life? Sandy's Leonardo di Caprio. I was really really. It was a rough stretch that I thoroughly enjoyed. I think the two men in my life is my favourite kate winslet and may align with the reader. I believe yeah. I think that's true. That was really tough. I forgot about that. So funny her APEC Mountain. I think it's around the time. She won an Oscar in the middle of the odds. Even though that movie's pretty bad yeah the road that year that same year and she is like working up to that at this moment so yes it's all. Yeah it's on the rise. Okay Nats Jude Law. I A lot of conversation about you'd laws Apex Mountain and what that means so in writing. or We've already talked about his Iraq. hotness apex of hotness certainly this movie okay eh no disrespect to Dickie Greenleaf. Yeah I wanted to say this conversation with you. Apex of Honda's I kinda have to go without and Mister Ripley. My man's just in a row. Oh boat in Italy wearing linen like very up. Yeah I I loved. I loved Dad Graham Simpkins or whatever his name is this movie. I think he's really really attractive. Here see the obviously really intelligent Mister Ripley as well. Well I would say Mister Ripley is his pack mountain. Now Yeah because it's just went downhill from there. It was a gradual decline. But nothing was as good as any did I just I was looking at. IMDB and his closer closer was one of his probably one of his most notable movies. He's in a bunch of good movies but he's not. He narrowly carries one. I I mean he's in cold mountain which was really well received is in Iheart Huckabee's but he's like he can't carry a movie like his biggest solo movies. Alfie and like that was not ahead. No that was part of the that was during this Shannon Miller scandal. I think he has talented Mister Ripley. I believe he gets nominated for an Oscar for talented Mister Ripley and then all of kind of the the cool project that he's doing to try to spend his capital also are happening at the same time as she's Indulging in our personal life that at the tabloids are covering is the British tabloids are really intense. There's I think it sounds miserably but there is an argument that right now July sort of in his apex mountain because he can do whatever he wants. He's in the young pope. which is that? HBO that all the Kids Love. Yeah I think they're doing a kids. Love it well. I don't know whether he's in the second season by right kids. She means like twenty twenty. Yeah I mean maybe maybe your children will love the young pope. They are sophisticated. They have you know. Maybe other tastes Beloved Craig there it is and then he's in. He has like the Harry Potter. Spin offense change. He's in like the weird marvel movies and then he's doing all he does all these movies on the side. Rage pops up to be like Jude Law and have sort of a fun on supporting role for awhile. He's living well as evidenced by his late movie career. And also that time I saw him at the arclight in terms of actual power. It is probably Charles Mister Ripley. I agree and also hotness Ripley. That's a really important movie. It's a great. I mean it's just incredible movie great movie incredible talent. That wasn't been Dunya not yet. 'cause it's twenty years in December twenty years ago. It's a great great great great movie. I watch it every time me too. It's it's so expertly really done and part of that. Is Lobbying Dickie Greenleaf Nancy. Meyers this. Hurry packs now Dan you know. What is your Apex Mountain? Then that's a great question. It's not something's gotta get. It might be. That is both like a critical breakthrough through and she gets Keaton and Jack Nicholson and cowdery of kind of kind of the wilderness for a little while. Yeah and you know it's not coming home No no that's her daughters movie isn't it. No she didn't know her show host produce it. My daughter story absolutely horrible movie. I gotta say I had a fantastic time watching it. I enjoyed watching it but I'd still I just didn't that I. I think it's probably. It's probably the house the House it's like the best cast. It's very good and it's like two thousand three when the movie's still make money and people still went to Z.. Like studio comedies in the theater and then from there I I really love both. It's complicated on the intern. You know they just aren't impacted last us. Yeah yeah I I agree with that. Also something's gotTa give Amanda Pizza as well as mcdormand. Isn't it it's also a really good good cat John in it. It's it's a really good movie. I watched that one a lot too so the only person could potentially say it's our Apex Mountain and probably not even Jack Block yet and yet all these starpower incredible. Oh Man Okay moving on the Joey Pants award for that guy I mean and I just WanNa say I'm giving US Dustin Hoffman. Okay it's the great guy of all heights it's using the the it's sort of like a reverse that guy but it's pretty good Let's jump to half ass Internet research because earned doing some have fast Internet research that their feelings movie at blockbuster and Dustin Hoffman was like walking down on the street saw a movie shoot. Happening went over to it is friends Nancy Meyers and they just put them in the scene. I don't think I made it to that part of the drums Eh. Yeah apparently that's just like how it happened and it was just really quick. I think it happened in Larchmont too. Because there's a coffee bean and tea leaf right next door. Oh interesting there was. Let's not anymore but With this movie was made Qila at definitely possible. I always obsessed trying to figure out where they're filming things. A lot of stuff was seem like it was I know the one thing. They filmed the scene when they were in the That beautiful chateau where they were eating lunch. It was in the Greystone Mansion. Here your it was like a home. Oh interesting We alluded to this but they built so the House that Kate winslet's character has in England and that was completely built in a field in England for the shoot basically exteriors and everything like that and that was also in Surrey and then allows downstate sound stage action for the interiors of the homes but building. The exterior is like stealing. Now I know where a lot of eighty five million made a brick and yeah yeah totally and then apparently it snow during the shoe which is actually a rare but added to the vibe which which is wonderful and as you mentioned the exterior of Camry has house is near the Huntington Gardens in San Marino. Which is right near Pasadena Beautiful? Pretty I couldn't verify this truly fast. That's Internet research but IRS is the name of Kate winslet's character also the name of wanted you'd laws daughters and that's either a funny coincidence or one. Website website suggested that the character's name for his daughter but I actually couldn't confirm mansell who knows it could be incorrect. Sam Yeah Yeah Very Nice. Yeah it's lovely Iranian Graham. Those go together. I believe that Iron Grammar siblings totally great staff Jeez episodes also brought to you by luminary. PODCAST subscription service with some of the best content around. I'm excited about luminary. Because it's the only place I can. 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I found this scene between her and Ed Burns. When they're fighting at the beginning is like maybe you should be a shared award shared winner for this award? That whole thing where they're just yelling alley each other and you never. You don't believe anything what's happening and that either of them care. Yeah they're just kinda shrieking and then she does. You mentioned the asaf ago whatever. Yeah I don't know I mean you're the only woman on the face of the earth who breaks up with her boyfriend doesn't even shed a tear. It's going to mean something right. Does it bug you so much that I can't Cry Sausages Spasm Gossiping. It's okay I'll be all right. I know I know I'm thinking about me. Ethan definitely always reminded that she was acting weren't like oh it just slipped into this part or whatever just very very much felt like she was acting but maybe also part of that is because she was supposed to be out of her element in in England. I don't know just trying to be kind. Yeah who knows recasting couch. So I'm GonNa Jason Segel Okay for uh the miles role. I think you swayed me. Thank Yeah Yeah I tried did that. Whole like the weird vampire? And now now I I can buy it. What about Emilia Alia Clark as irs? Yes should be fantastic as I bet. That's my best suggestion. DNR's chariot kate. Hudson have been Cameron Cameron Diaz yes. It's good contemporary initially accurate. And also she has the she has put the L. A. S. and also the ROM com chops right. She might even be slightly better at the emotional aspects of it. Because let's be real. This movie's pretty sappy and I feel like that's the cameras. Yes like gets a little uncomfortable. This happiness I know where character is supposed to be uncomfortable with this happiness but the giving into it. Maybe Kate Hudson could do it a bit better but then he right when she did like how to lose a guy. Yeah Yeah. Yeah when she did all the McConnell I was like but then you gotta put my hand over like you could have put mcconaughey in there too. Yeah you need the British accent. uh-huh mccartin hey would have been a good fit. Though love. Love that character I other British doctors could any red main player character. No no no one does. Hot Krant can't do it because it's too sappy. Yeah definitely not yeah. It's like he's too. I mean the thing. That's Colin I. If he wasn't oh yeah my take it. Oh he totally has the aloof he has the aloofness that Like Hugh grant basically because the thing is the characters like so direct. He's like I I love you. I'm sorry Ray said convert. Did the love actually really messed up plot line but where he is just kinda helpless and I like I love you so he could do it. Yeah that's a good one tail thing is just no one does hot. So it's a part of that it's just it just realise without Judah. Yeah I actually he really does bring it all together picking that there's so many I mean okay. Thank you so much okay. And this is like a and Rom COM tro forever. But we would be remiss. We did point out a wedding reporter for the Telegraph is owning this picturesque cottage. That's on par with The mansion in in Brentwood they even though. It's in Pasadena Right I. I don't know she can't afford this cottage commute like how she get into it. Fourteen minutes I actually really appreciated that is the description is is just Mike just forty minutes outside of but yeah. I don't know I'm not buying okay. Maybe it's the family home because Judah also lives in the area. British people have a lot of family money though that was the only reason and I might have bought into it as earth. Yeah it's that's true great set for my next question okay. Where were these people's families you're right family okay? Everyone is just like I'm going to go away for Christmas. No Oslo and care have no parents no siblings knowing to keep in touch with jude law didn't even know Kate winslet. It was gone but she did. Just make the plan the night for the moment but yeah issue did try to tell him. He said that she called. They have no holiday obligations to friends friends or family or any life outside like the people that are shown in the movie. I just hurry confused. You know even like Wallich just like don't you have grandkids or or a nephew or a niece rate. I mean you know I guess when you are getting older he does have some friends but you know but there's there's no one okay. Another another related thing. This is a Christmas movie right. It's called the holiday Christmas music. There is a major scene like that happens on Christmas Eve. When when Jack Black finds out that his girlfriend it is dating someone else right and she's like? Do you want some Christmas Fettuccini. So we know it's Christmas Eve Christmas Day just totally. Yeah they just don't even mention. The whole movie has risen music and it's called the holiday actual holiday is just not acknowledged college. I have no idea how any of them spent their Christmases and also in England boxing day not discussed either just total fast forward two years it is. It's it's super weird and also like that. No one's like sad or like there's no. There's no Christmas trees. There's like a house. Oh you're right that's the only place I did wonder whether they we're trying to make it like broader holiday appeal that there's a reason I mean the holiday is a nice idea to have a Hanukkah dinner I it yeah that's what British people call vacations. So it's a word play but it is also. It's not got Christmas the holiday right but but still. If you're going to have like a Christmas Eve I don't know what Christmas Day right right. Got A couple more okay. What is the vetting process for home? Swapping you're right. It was like oh I'm free it's all in one thousand nine hundred nine. It reminded me a lot of the lovely. You've got males Tom. Hanks Meg Ryan. Are you know so and they speak. Cute I thought it was very sweet. They seem to have a great relationship but there is like no other vetting or checks or even how are we going to swap key too soon into that because they were both on this house what race I know neither one of them was going to rip the other person's yeah there and there's none of the kind of the behind the scenes like there's no house cleaning. There's no preparation preparation. There's whatever okay. I have another one. Yeah I really. Truly don't understand Cameron Diaz his sex life and why that's a plot line in this movie. She suddenly like. I'm bad at sex. Well what is that like. We're your long term boyfriends like. You're bad at Saks. And then you stay together like what is that and and then also what if he said that why she surprised that he was cheating. Like no offense by it's confusing. I don't understand why it's involved and also understand why Jude Law's confirming her several times afterwards. I mean that's nice if you have someone and even the other really good great aside as a as a rebuke to the other guys. Not just like the really talking about a follow up on her comments I just they say David. They haven't had sex in a year. Okay which I guess sometimes happens in bad relationships. I agree that the then the infidelity. It doesn't really seem to come as much of a surprise Sir as you might think but it all flows but then for her to introduce the fact that for her to believe him even though number one she had they haven't had sex in the air and number two for her to introduce it just before they're having sex and she's otherwise I think she's supposed to be a confident person and they have to give for like a thing to make her relatable you know like they used to make all the ROM com people fall down or whatever the number one that sexist and number two picking. I'm really bad at sex as the the thing to make her related so weird. I don't understand it's just. It's a really weird plot point. They didn't need to be a movie. It also just like it's just just strange. It's just so out of left field and just really super straight you. Just don't say that to someone know when she's the one who's like I think we should have sachs like just like if you're saying that don't like head you'll be like sorry might be bad also if you're not planning on seeing him ever again like don't even say anything just X. just go for that. It's really baffling to me into. I don't get it. Also women in her position in La even in two thousand and six if she wants you were bad at sex would've taken multiple classes done a lot of meeting. This is a solutions solutions oriented person. She would found solutions for it. I totally agree with. Okay Yeah I have one more is great. The only adjective that Cameron Cameron Diaz his character does literally the kids are like looking are magical ten and she's like it's so great. What a great day? It's only there's only one word that she knows and it's it's great and it drives me insane. I think I think part of that is bad. Writing Sorry Ansi I think the other part of it is. She's like bad at her emotion so she doesn't have have like words to put against clearly not been around children either right so she's just her vapid. La Person Yeah Okay but they don't lean into that they they did if she were evacuated. La Person. I would get it. But you're supposed to empathize with her anymore. Bad writing I agree. I think those are. Those are my major issues. I have a few more in two thousand six. Why do Jude Law's daughters? Who are both under five? I think five or less have their own cell phones. They shouldn't carry. Yeah I guess you can speak to. This is to ex. And they're under five. No that would bill gates eleven or something under five I think they I started playing club sports. That's when they got their phone. Okay then I could communicate with them throughout the field or whatever but that's way too young I mean they'd have ipads at that age. Yeah not phone. Maybe one of them as like. Let's say she's at Max seven still too young in two thousand six was l.. Phones have only been mainstream for five years point. It's really weird to me. Maybe it's because because this is one of my nitpicks he was. He just could randomly be out and stay out all night and his kids will be calling the next day and it's like wait a minute like so you just is left and you decide to have a late night and stay at Cameron Diaz this house. You're so weird. Kids are home. Parents are with them his parents but oh yeah he did the they say that the grandparents ever see definitely available though life emotionally logistically to available cameras. Yeah I I do wonder if the kids having cell phone things actually just they introduced a basic area. I think you're supposed to think that they would just be calling from home but you have to have the the names in the phone to make this AFIA. Olivia reveal actually work right so they just you know it's a reality because the woman I just didn't mark another one that crag pointed out Jude Law Very Tan in this movie for a man who lives in England that's always in the middle of December in Italy filming talented gate years forever. Way To ten and on the cotton on the topic of the Color Tan. CAITLYN's with carrier. Where's too many Tan Hans Waitz and creams like she? You just took Diane Keaton's Roy Moore drove something's gotTa give and just put it on and made it yes. It didn't fit her well and again. I wasn't sure if that was like defrays. E body. Kate winslet yes hot. Yeah when they when she's in the pool in the one piece you're just like Oh. Wow this glamour. Of course pretty weird. They make her look so bad in her. Wardrobe is terrible. That feels like just really bad studio notes of like this woman needs to be quote relatable to everybody body and so you can't do anything threatening and so you have to make her look like normal. Yeah which is lame. It's like the I don't know like this give affiliation. But that's like she literally. Dresses is like my mother's eighty eighty and like she would wear that some of the outfits her like. I don't know it didn't look at none of rain in this movie. Didn't it didn't rain. Once all the time in England it snowed. It snowed which they did say in the UH commentary commentary that snowden never even sticks ending right in England wind so they were they had to keep making it stick right and it. It's not common right. It's not at all like last year's and there's been snow like in London like the city's like paralyzed warm because it's damp and it's just like give us the England rain where Jude Law still be hot. If it's raining make him. What no problem with that like I don't understand it? Does it rains fog. Can I ask another weather related. Question do the Santa Anna's really lasted December. We're in peaks in right now and it's November and I do. They often go Christmas. I don't think so. I think they can happen. It can happen just using his people. Don't yeah yeah and I also. I don't know whether this is true. True or whether they talked about this on the commentary but they added that in because they had Santa. Anna's while filming Oh interesting and the wind was blowing. Wasn't created wind up there. We go so much weather. Yeah Kerry anymore nets to pick mine. Were like kind of more specifically. Let's hear it bothered me. When Jasper was like growing up red pick the one on ties back? Wait a minute. All all little bikinis have tie in the back was like what a great point agreed. Weird one also dish you have to read bikinis one. That's a front class but one does tie the back. Yeah any sense the the drive already breath drive from the airport that somehow ended up on the P. C. H.. I didn't make and I think even going north so she ended up on the PCH. And then she's on ocean. I think and she turns onto sandy but yeah sunset sign there they may add. Look like Belair uh-huh yeah that's true ocean dishonesty and like that could have tracked but they like they messed it up. Yes something was wrong there. I think they wanted like. Oh Beverly Hills does looking or Bel Air looking sign but it was but it was Santa Monica. She is also from the airport. I think she's like driving south which is not how you got in which you know. Then she's looking at the ocean. I mean it's a great view. Awful over there but I got one to the driver when she gets to. The the caught swells will not drive down to the house. It's just bizarre like you pay a driver was a black car. They'll take you all the way they never. They don't say Oh yeah lady and your high heels you down the mile and a half path and she dies on the way like that doesn't happen related to this carry. Can you confirm this. This is from. This is really half ass trivia but apparently on the director's commentary or on one of the behind the scenes commentaries Cameron Diaz says. This is her most physical physical film because of all the running. She has to do which I think just means like up and down at that Suitca unless they must have fun like twenty times. Those that was really funny. I I'm sure that was true. A lot of interviews a lot of focusing on cameras hitting her head on the beam in side the house as like. Oh Oh my God. What a funny moment that she handled so well and it's like okay? Sure even think about that and more than one so no no big deal. I had some other notes like this like borderline unanswerable questions just out now. Does Jude. Law Leave has glasses and his sister's house or does he just travel them anytime he he has a big night out like assuming he could end up wherever and we'll have to take out his contacts and glasses the next morning. I sort of assumed that he was like the low-grade glasses where where he's not going from contacts to glasses either reading glasses or a little bit of help he can get away with dad. Dad Forty. Yeah they're in the the supermarket. Joe Carrington Blazer right now that no one could see but yeah I assume he has them on them because they're like it's an off situation. Just look so hot and then my other thing is i. Don't I don't think I would let like a complete stranger just through through my door. No no well that either but this. I'm thinking back to Jack Black when he shows up oh and he. He liked the Santa Anna Windsor blowing. And he goes to take something out of Kate winslet's eyelash And he's like literally like right on her and breathing in her face. Yeah like trying to get something out never eyelash and I would be happy comfortable. Do Really Big Cameron Diaz has two suitcases was enough. After all the clothes. We see her wearing keeping no she unlike back. It's a lot lot shoes. A lot of warm weather stuff that's bulky but also a lot of light layers though. She is really during a lot of like a mirror and that stuff can be pretty compact. I wasn't sure I was like I. I was like this looks like a lot. But then she has these codes and shoes shoes you're so bulky and she had like boots and stuff so I was worried she just by the clothes that she wore over to his house that day because she said there's no men there right so she wasn't planning on a a big night. He only knows that address formerly either like Super Super Low key like in her pajamas or like dressed up like structure clothing which honestly good way to Alpha Nine holiday outfit like. She was wearing a long pencil skirt with like this. Big Thick Black Bell rang stones. It was a beautiful talk like that didn't seem like something I'd bring along on vacation if I wasn't planning it didn't make sense now on the other hand. She clearly had weird expectations for what she was going to be. Getting in England. Go whatever maybe she packed everything shields I also was wondering how. IRS gets up to her home. The cabdriver wouldn't drive her like how does she drive out there but whatever smaller car. She has a mini because Cameron yes. She's using her car because they say they exchange cars. I know it just like you didn't track with the whole cab thing. I think I think that driver is not a five star is what we've come down to what it is Best quote. I'm going to be honest. I know it Oh go you. I don't think there is one no I have a lot of. That's the one where he says where Arthur says in the movies we are leading ladies and we have the best friend you I can tell her leading lady but for some reason. You're behaving best friend Surroi soon. I think the runner up when the abl Santana's pardon the wind is what makes it so warm. This legend has it Senate is blow. All bets are off. Anything can happen. I also liked when comedy as as we should probably have sachs if you want to and jude law says is that a trick question and we actually funny and I feel like it's like a weird to say. Yeah but you're care that's definitely at. Could this be remains the ten episode. Netflix show yes. What right now? I'm in a completely. I want to know what happens. I WANNA see her inject lack break-up 'cause you know that's that's GonNa totally how long they last like two months five months all right. Oh so you guys think they're the ones that break up. Jude Lime Cameron Diaz. Has It have a a future together. This was one of my questions. Cameron Diaz his character. Amanda as a step mom go. Oh I can't imagine really cute clothes. She would. I really wouldn't work out. This is great. Yeah really really tough and the other unanswerable questions and but that would be part of it. Though then. She'd be her like getting over the Hump of being tried to move to England and she. What the facts as I do? And then she'd have to work through it. Okay Okay and you think she would work through it. Rather than getting on the first plane home and Living back in her beautiful house with her extremely profile so so that was the point. Okay ready to have the chance. Wants to leave and she came back right. We didn't talk another nitpick was how they all they have like pretty involved jobs and I understand. It's the the holidays but they just drop everything. And you never hear from Catherine Honnor John Brzezinski or any of the trailer people ever again. She's like I really business until I don't okay. I think it's like a quasi believable dish. It is very true but for for a reporter. It's definitely harder. Yeah four versus. This is the freshest society especially with all the people get married on Christmas staff. Yeah Christmas parties New Year's parties. That's definitely less believable to me. Okay who who on the movie you which is a resounding man guy so hot areas of the movie. I mean it's it's tough but true it is as you said. This movie doesn't work without him no other answer. He's just so great and yet it still has apex bounded. How wild Just a great holiday movie. I certainly feel like I'm in the holiday spirit now need to Christmas music. It's getting chilly here. Thank you so much for listening I'm Juliet Lipman. I'm Kerry Simmons Back next week well three of us will be will be

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"You're listening to an encore episode of the view. The co hosts will return monday january fourth. Live with an all new episode. Subscribe now to our podcast to get hot topics delivered every afternoon and while you're at it rate us in libra review your next hours book because the view starts now silence on violence as attorney. General barr says. There's no evidence to back up. Baseless voter fraud claims president. Trump's own lawyer attacks the cybersecurity chief who called it the most secure election in us history at the class a moron. He should be drawn and quartered taken out at dawn and shot and with election. Officials receiving chilling death threats. Does the president need to speak out against violence now. Before tragedy strikes passed to stop some are going to get killed and oscar winner. Kate winslet on her salute to pioneering women in her new movie. Amanite and how taking a deep dive with titanic director. James cameron helped her break a record previously held by tom. Cruise plus sara discovered a whole new way to make family connections this holiday that you can do to. And you won't believe what she down. Here come hot topics with whoopie sarah joy behar sunny causton and meghan mccain. Now let's get things started. Hello and welcome to the view you know. Yes they attorney. General william bar told the associated press. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud and in an election that foam cybersecurity chief. Chris crabs caused the most secure election in. us history. You know who's own lawyer said. Crabs should be drawn and quartered in shot and after election officials have been getting death. Threats georgia voting systems manager. Gabriel sterling set. Enough is enough. Watch joe jennifer today. Ask for. Chris crabs as patriot who ran cisa to be. Shut a twentysomething tech win it county today. Has death threats. A noose put out saying should be hung for treason because he was transferring. A report on batches from an ems into account a computer so he could read it. Mr president you have not condemned these actions or this language senators. You've not condemned this language or these actions. This has to stop. We need you to step up. And if you're gonna take a position of leadership show some. I mean does you. I mean you know having your spokespeople come out to say. This isn't going to cut it. You need to speak up man this. You started this. I mean my crazy. Does he need to step up and condemn these this kind of behavior study. Of course he does. But you know i think just. As as president obama observed trump has failed to grow into this office into the rigor of the office. Until into the dignity of this office. He is not a person that is willing to unite the country and tamp down the rhetoric and the violence. In fact what be what he did was instead of Doubled down on his allegations of election fraud and he re tweeted that speech that we just showed and he wrote rigged election show signatures an envelopes massive voter fraud in georgia. That is the very opposite of being presidential uniting the country. He's just being as divisive as he has ever been. He should take note and everyone should take note. That criminal threats are actionable. They are it is criminal. You have the former cyber security adviser and chief being threatened by another lawyer by a trump representative. That is something that i believe the authorities should be taking very seriously and i think the fbi should be investigating and it's coming straight from the top. Because if that's his lawyer he's given permission to speak for him. I mean joy. You think he's going to speak up anytime soon. Trump showing around trump. no of course not first of all. Let's not forget that he's the one who said maybe the second amendment people do something about hillary clinton remember that so that that were. He believes in violence apparently for his his people who are against him. But you know the other thing is not to sound like a broken record but this has been very lucrative for him to keep saying that he won. He keeps shaking down his supporters to the tune of one hundred and seventy million dollars that he is now collecting. It's fascinating to lose is to gain all of this money for him. I don't think he would have made as much money if he stays on. He has convinced these people that he has one and they keep sending him these small donations. I feel bad for these people. I and let me just say something. These contributions ought to his pack his leadership pac which means that the money can be used for anything from membership at golf clubs travel rallies even payments to himself cheeseburgers. A new wife. Anything he wants to buy hundred seventy million you guys out there. Stop sending him money. Stop it it's ridiculous. And that is the reason and the distance of the fact that the man is lacking in empathy. I mean there's that always there which is what pascal grad cascal said. The reason he lost the the whole thing. The election is because his lacking empathy. He couldn't care less about the people who were out there getting corona virus and he never said a word about that like put your masks on socially distant and give some leadership to these people know the opposite so yeah empathy money. that's the name of donald trump. Okay sarah your your thought process over seeing his lawyer threaten pretty much and keeping in mind that he's threatening people who worked for him. Does this make any sense to you. We just saw a couple of weeks. Ago steve bannon calling for a beheading of of a few people so this language in rhetoric rhetoric is so dangerous and scary in the highest levels of office. And i think that the politics is dry are driving these attacks. The rhetoric is driving these attacks. And there's no longer politicians reigning it in there was a time where we can all remember senator mccain megan's dad during a rally or a town hall called out a woman attacked president obama and said he's he's an arab he's something and he said okay. Hold on he is a good man. We disagree and i remember. President obama doing the same thing about mccain during that same election time and i thought there was a time where there were grownups in the room. That said some of these just fall outside the bounds of the game. And we're not seeing any of that from governor whitmer to dr fauci has to have security guards his just doing science in his job. There's it's a it's a disgusting reality. And the fact that there's not a loud messaging coming out to condemn that immediately and succinctly is just yes disturbing him. Yeah yeah and it should be from him in front of a camera saying we don't do that but you know what's crazy ass is. It appears that every time. Someone says something. He doesn't like they're fake this. He's doing this to people in his own party. Who have no reason to help democrats win. They're doing their job and yet he's calling for this and this. This is now a whole new place in my mind that he's taken us because if any of us had said anything like that about him you know people would have been all over us it would all be said something nasty people do remember what happened to kathy griffin. Remember what happened to kathy. Grab practically yester- career because declare does blithely say whatever they want. We said since the election is not for a party. He's for people who are for him so it doesn't matter where you fall on the spectrum if you support trump. He's for you if you don't whether you're in the gop or he will cut you off and literally tell other people to do the same now sunny. You have a legal name. Please feel free. Sure representatives for georgia senators kelly laughlin and david purdue said they condemned violence of any kind but also said they would not apologize for seeking accountability accuracy in the states elections. I don't think anybody asked that. I think people are saying to you. You need to step up not through somebody but in front of a camera and saying this behavior is not okay because this is what you all stand for in georgia if this is what you want people to vote you in for. I think you make a mistake. I don't think people like this kind of talk or this kind of behavior. Maybe i'm crazy. It's quite possible. We're going to go to break still ahead mixed messages. Former president obama tells moderate democrats leaning start listening to the next generation of leaders like congresswoman. Afc promoting young people is really important that we stick so long with the same old folks and don't make room for new voices but that progressives need to pull back on slogans like defunding the police. You've lost a big audience the minute you say but we'll either side take his advice. No matter which views you celebrate we hope your holiday season is a save one happy holidays and happy new year from the ladies and don't forget to take a little time to enjoy the view on. Abc still a hell oscar winner. Kate winslet talks about the past movie. Roles that prepared her for the pandemic and sarah's finding out how connecting with family. This holiday can be absolutely his story. Welcome back former president. Obama has been commenting on the current state of politics in recent interviews and he's wanting progressive democrats to be careful how they pitch their platforms. Take a look if you believe as as i do that we should be able to reform the criminal justice system so that it's not biased and treats by fairly i guess you can use a snappy slogan like defunding police but you know you've lost a big audience the minute you say it which makes it a lot less likely that you're actually going to get the changes you want done right. So does he have a point here. Sonny you know. I'm always loathe to criticize president obama. Because i'm such a fan. But i do think he's wrong here. I mean when you think about defend police. That's not a term that was crowd source are tested in focus groups. You know that's a term that was born Rallying cry it was born out of this over policing of black and brown communities born out of the frustration of seeing black and brown men and women killed in the streets by police officers and defunding. The police does not mean for the two hundred time. i've explained it does not mean eliminating police departments. It doesn't mean stripping agencies for all of their money. It's reimagining policing in this country to address systemic racism we fund school programs all the time and they call it defunding school programs yet. No one seems to have a problem with that but people all of a sudden have a problem with defunding the police that term. I don't think you should allow people to coop the movement and tell protesters what language they should use. I think president obama was a community organizer. And i really think that he knows better. I spoke to my good friend garza. You guys have met her. And she co founded. The black lives matter movement. She told me when they first came up with the black lives matter movement. People told her that they should call it. All lives matter movement now. I think that that would have been a mistake now because that was one of protesters in the streets. Yeah but but i think what. He's trying to say that people hold on hold on a second. I think what he's saying is how people perceived that message and how it was carried through is the problem. That's i think what he's saying. Be aware of how you presenting yourself because people do grab it and run. It's you know we saw it in miami. We saw it all over florida. How people took that message didn't matter how many times you said that's not what it means. People took that because the right kind of grabbed and turned it into something else. Go ahead joy. I'm sorry. Well yeah. But i think that sunny gay came up with a better slogan. Reimagined the police. That's a good slogan it's it's more accurate the fund. The police is not an accurate statement. It has to be more like. Here's an accurate statement. Give me liberty or give me death. Go and dated patrick henry so i happen to know. That's a good one but the thing about it is pro choice. Also and pro-life those things don't work either. It should be pro woman. They need to get a slogan that does not make people nuts and d from the police scared. That's what trade. And that's why so many democrats working. That's what this bomb say disagree. I you do but this let it go when i came back. I didn't know how much time we do. You want me to go. Because i actually. I do agree with president. Obama that win. There's any confusion. I understand of what sonny's is saying that there's an anger. There's a rage that you can hear that and agree with where you're going but not how you get there and i think what president obama said resonated with me because i think that if there's any confusion how do you speak across to more people. It's you know your friend. Alicia garza all about math. It's getting more people not just your community to understand it and in order to do that. You gotta make sure you don't lose some of those people in the messaging as president obama said so. I really appreciate quote but you also says to do this to you but there are people that we have to go home in this conversation. We have to cut short. I'm sorry we'll be back strong. Women the hottest toppings sharing their views right here. I want to say something about that. That's kind of where we are. And that's why the number one daytime talk show is the emmy winning view on abc. Welcome back we were talking about really messaging and how it's perceived things like define the police and such so sarah you about to say something. Yeah well the quote that jumped out at me in that interview that president obama did was this it says and if you want to get something done in a democracy in countries big and diverse as ours. You've got to be able to meet people where they are and play a game of addition and not subtraction. And i think that's what jumps out at me because sunny. I i understand you talked about not defining a movement i recognize. I'm not part of this active conversation but from the outside if you look at it as trying to gain people that don't understand it or don't get it win the term confuses people and i know you said. Well why did our. I think you're not part of this conversation. You should be a part of this conversation. Because i know the you're against the over policing in black and brown communities as well i appreciate that. The problem is when i jumped into this conversation before. I've been excused because of the hugh of my skin. And i've always had one critique on this. I agree with the endgame. What i was saying that there are some ideological like reasons. Why selling movement with a slogan is possibly confusing. I know that particularly hoban or not obama. Sorry james clyburn had spoken with representative. John lewis who they were talking about civil rights movement. They talked about how burn baby burn. Didn't land the way. It should've that it was misconstrued. People got confused. And i think when there's any terms started. The term abolishing slavery had hat wasn't received. Well the term civil rights of that term also wasn't received well again these are these are rallying cries and if policy my confusion than is i believe in the movement of this i believe in removing the no knock warrants. I believe in criminal justice reform. I i agree with letting people have low level drug crimes. I agree with reallocated. Defunding the police. But but the reason i'm saying this is my understanding. Originally when defend the police came out there were people that thought eliminating the police. The second understanding i had was bring on mental health experts. Then when alicia guard garza was here. Am i saying your name right. explained to me that it's about taking a alexia out of the police departments completely and giving it to the school so i myself am reading and care and i got a little confused on the topic and that's the reason i bring it up. Pay with the you should change saturday. Listen grandsons obama is very. Here's what you call a pragmatic politician. He is trying to get a thing done. His everything that sarah said is true. We're all in the same camp. The question is how do now communicated to people who just here slogan and who do not read between the lines when you say to people black lives matter. I have a cousin who said well doesn't don't she's a liberal. Don't all white all lives matter. And i said look if one house is burning on the street. The has matter but we're concentrating on the burning house right now and it's a similar idea you cannot we also care how to explain it but we're concentrating but you explain now you're going to make that clear what you have to say you head to explain black lives matter. Why change the slogan if you need to for people because they don't understand because you know you need to explain it again this. This term is a policy demand. It is a demand for change. And i do not. I always think it is a mistake to allow a poet sane language and to sign narratives to say black lives matter is true to say de fund. The police is not completely true. They are not going to pick. It is true going to we allocate. It's different black lives. Matter is a true story is a true fact defunding. The police is vague. That's my argument. And and i. I don't think Yet i think that you have to be clearer what. I don't think it's vague at all. I think the police means exactly what they're saying. It means take some of the funds and reallocate them doesn't it's not completely but fund the police. It's not abolish the ponies. It's defunding the police and if people care about it we look into it just like you have an an explain and explain it to those. That can't but the mistake is to change the narrative. If we were the only ones telling the story you would be absolutely right if we were. The only ones tom this story. Unfortunately that's not how it works so someone gets something that says defunding. The police and the narrative then becomes they want to get rid of the police departments and then someone runs with that. It turns into something that it isn't and you're stuck explaining that explaining and lots of people lost because of that because people took it out of context and didn't explain what it meant and so a lot of people lost because the other side said. Let me take this and run with it and you know that that means you know what it means when they say that. So that's i think that's what the discussion is to try to figure out a better way to explain it to people. I think that's what the discussion is guys. We got sorry we have to go. We'll be right back with pretty much next oscar winner. Kate winslet on how she wants her latest movie. Amanite to help redefine onscreen romance. And why re teaming. With titanic director. James cameron for the upcoming avatar sequels left her breathless from disney and pixar. Today started out as the best day of my life. I've got the gig and the next thing. I know this christmas on disney this. What is this place. Before new cells get their personalities before they go to earth gray. I'm not supposed to be here. Can you help me get back to. Earth is boring out on the joys of life like no smell no taste or tax think seoul. Pg rental suggested okay. I get it on disney plus we're capturing all of our moments on instagram followers at the adc so you don't miss out on the action. Welcome back oscar. When kate winslet pays a pioneering woman left out of many history books in the new movie amanite she forged her own pat them both science and romance at a time. When it just wasn't accepted asked my girl. Please welcome the fabulous kate. Winslet's hella thank you so much for having me. Welcome well before we get to your new movie. Which by the way is so incredible. I have to ask about your twenty eleven film contagion because it's become One of the most downloaded films during this pandemic i myself also watched it and scared myself but you actually warned your friends not to watch it because it would scare them looking back. What do what did that film get right about what. We're all living through right now. I mean the importance of washing hands the importance of wearing a mosque when they say to wear a mosque Leon not something that the uk Put in place and And definitely i think helped kind of at least unify that everyone was fighting this thing together but yet contagion. I can't even watch it again myself. It was it was scary to shoot. Most definitely is scary to walk after lately. Well how did it prepare you personally for the pandemic started wearing masks really early on before everyone else definitely prepared me. Because i was able to meet people who worked at cdc in who were incredibly helpful when we were making contagion. So i had at least a little bit of insight. Very limited admittedly. I'm no scientist. But hadn't little bit of insight into how quickly viruses like the warmer experiencing now comes spread and it just made me a lot more wary and Yeah it definitely was. Because of having been a part about film that i was on high alert i think from quite early on well. You know kate terrific and your new movie which is called amanite and what you play mary. Anne a real life paleontologist and eighteen hundred and forty in england who wasn't really given the credit she deserves a groundbreaking. Work bo a big surprise. Right which often coop by mail scientists at the time allow now. You've you've said that it's important to you to uncover these types of stories What do you want people to know about this particular character. Oh well maryam was a self taught. Woman of scientific brilliant very working class nafta harsh life filled with struggle and she made pioneering discoveries. she discovered the first xia soul when she was the eleven years old and actually later on in eighteen twenty three discovered the first what became known as the pterodactyl but it was She was the unsung hero of the world of fossil discovery. Because she was a woman as you say you know the world of science back then and geology was dominated by men men who would buy her findings and claim them as their own putting their own name on them So yeah rich. Powerful men taking away her Her success and I'm bringing her story a little bit too. Light in our own way was an enormous privilege. She was a formidable stoic. Remarkable lady and And this dome is a love story. It's a female love story myself. In such ronin lay mary-anne and charlotte murchison and It was a real privilege to be part of it in this film. Mary has a passionate love affair with a young married woman. Played by as you just mentioned searcher ronin who comes under her care now. There are some sex scenes which you to choreographed yourselves. How did that experience compared to the ones you've filmed in the past it was it was really important to search on. I ask the two people playing these characters and allowing the story to be told in as not true and i think equal way as possible. It was important to us that we were the ones making those decisions and at the end of the day with women and women know what women want right and so so so we felt we felt really empowered to To just create those scenes together and to the sincerity all of the love that these two characters have for one another run to approach it without hesitation and without fear until after one another to be in each other's colon are and And to make it as equal as we possibly could and it genuinely felt that way you also said you found the lack of vanity in the film to be refreshing. And i love that you said that from the severe clothing and hairstyle to the nudity. And that you were excited to actually have the opportunity to show your real self. Can you explain that. Yes yeah that's true. I mean you know all definition of beauty. I think definitely changes as we get older and we have children and the things are important in life become really crystallized down and something. That isn't important to me anymore. Actually is my my physical self. I just. I'm who i am. This is not the body. I had when i was twenty. I'm forty five. Now as i stand up at three kids and And i think it's just important. I would hope as a message to other women to just absolutely be who you are at whatever age you are and and yeah i think the age difference between myself and sasha is twenty years and and i felt i felt really brave about about showing that showing my true self and Not hiding behind any sort of movie star version of what it means to be forty five. Trust me i'm not the movie star version of forty five. I'm twenty five with all the And yeah it was. It was really refreshing. Experience suggests that to just be as true to myself as i could implying this because mary with burial exactly who she was and i felt i needed to honor that too. So cate hold on. We're going to go take a break and then we're coming back because we have more questions for you. We'll be right back welcome back. We're back with kate winslet joy. Well my cameras not working because now you can see where i am. Okay this is. This is real to come in and fix it because we have technical people coming into the house. He fixed it saying he's he said to tell you he loves you. As do i. I was telling you off camera. How much i appreciate your work. Especially in the wieder. Which by the way people can get on amazon prime. You should watch that. Movie senator tastic. Let's talk about this movie because you reunited with your titanic director. James cameron to shoot the upcoming advocacy. This is fascinating. You actually filmed underwater where you held your breasts for over seven minutes seven minutes. Tom cruise his record was six minutes for mission impossible. So what's your secret. How'd you do that trading. It's not something. I could just jump in boston. Do right now. I have the extraordinary training with a brilliant brilliant breath hold instructor named kirk. Crock and he he got me to seven minutes fourteen. What can i say it was. It was a training on dan. We just went for it and seven minutes fourteen. I know i will have joy gets down movie. I gotta to ask about my movie. So it's been twenty years. But titanic is still one of the most beloved movies of all time. But there's some controversy and i know you've heard of this before the iconic final scene in the water where you say. I'll never let you go jack. Because you did let him go and he he drowned and it my question for you is not whether he could have gotten up or not gotten up. You didn't even try like why did you try. It was like. I don't really agree. And actually just the other day. A friend of mine said come on. We have to actually have this conversation. Let's break it down. You let that was a half hearted attempt getting him on the door. But not really. I totally agree. We should've tried harder. We should have full enough a bunch of times before we completely just i harder on a unicorn shape pool that you did on that door and that was the love of your life look resolve not dole. I totally could have thought on dominant big on that and you got hypothermia filming that scene. Is that true actually. It wasn't that scene. It was another thing. But yes i did. When you're running down the hallway right down the hallways under to be perfectly honest. I think it was just doing scenes over and over again and having to stay in the wars for prolonged periods of time i actually get the it was being truthful but yeah quite a few of us. Well i'm glad you cleared that up better now. Thank you can see. She'll sleep better tonight. she'll sleep much better tonight. Because you were able to explain so we want to say thank you for coming. That was always a pleasure to see you. Amanite is in theaters now on demand on friday and we of course. We'll be right back good to see kate. Winslet kissed the kids for me. Back thank you. What did sarah unlock about her family history. That will make the holidays a little sweeter this year. And how can you get in on a do find out next. We are all going to have to search for different ways to connect with family. This holiday and i found a great way to find family connections. I never knew about with help from our sponsors ancestry. Senior family historian. Lisa elsie high. Her lose. i'm really excited about this. Because i think. I do know a little bit about where i came from just due to family urban legend. But i did want to know more. So what did you find out about my family. Well let's start with your ancestor. Dna your took the test and we have your ethnicity estimate which is that. You are thirty one percent. Scottish is your highest percentage. Where as well as other as well as other western european ethnicities you also have a community which is about the last two hundred years or so of migration of your family in poconos north jersey settlers. I need to meet some more family. But with the holidays coming up i wanted to be able to share some of the stories about my family but i didn't have a lot of actually on my mother's side so you guys did a deep dive for. What did you find out well unanswered. We found your great grandmother. Her name is lula. Ethel stone owner and she was born the eleventh of november eighteen eighty one and just shake kansas. You're my mom's from yup well and her parents are michael and ellen's donor and here we have them in the nineteen hundred census on ancestry and lula's living with her parents and her brother if you notice the parents age gap is quite large. And that's because this was both second marriage for both of them and also. Mike and michael didn't work very much years. It must have been a really hard year for them. But this is the last year lula was listed with your parents census because she was married three years later to your great grandfather albert qadeer and we found in the anson street how we found the ancestry marriage index that listed her announcement for their marriage and it says that actually worked for the register. Which is the local paper. Wow i've heard the could do in stone her references so this is really cool to hear but tell me more about her job at the newspaper. Yes because she worked at the local newspaper. She wrote different articles for different things including be registered cooking club of which he was a member so her recipe that she wrote was printed alongside other notable contributors such as mrs teddy roosevelt and also the wife of a kansas senator so when she was eighteen lulu printed. Her recipe called nuts in ryan. Just fantastic. yeah so. It rhymes one cup of sherpur one cup of milk cetera. With what a perfect find personal creative you could clip this out. Make a big batch of great-grandma lula's donuts given to family and start a new tradition. That is so cool. Oh my god. I i have a plate of donuts right there with you. Gosh there's like a family connection to these donuts. i have to try them then. I should try rhyming my recipes more often. This is really good wonderful. It's probably something you can give to your family for the holidays. That is so sweet. While i to this donut. I wanna share this with people. Because i bet a lot of families would like to get more information about bear family tree. How can they do that. Yes so our holiday sale is going on right now. Which means there are gifts for everyone on your list it could be an ancestor. Dna test or a gift membership. But you can find new ways to spend the holidays connecting with your family with ancestry. Well i just have to thank you. This was so cool. Like you wanna learn something every day. 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"From whyy in philadelphia. I'm terry gross with fresh air today. Kate winslet she and sir show ronin star in the new film emanate as two women in the mid eighteen. Hundreds who fall in love winslet's character. Mary aiming is loosely based on the self taught paleontologist who lived on england's rocky southern coast and discovered fossils that were important contributions to the understanding of evolution but she received little credit because she was a woman she was poor and had no connections. Kate winslett started her film career when she was seventeen and starred in the indie film heavenly creatures three years later. She starred with leonardo di caprio in the blockbuster. Titanic we'll talk about how things have changed in her life and for women in hollywood. Since that time. Kate winslet coming up on fresh air. My guest kate winslet stars in the new movie amanite. Her film career started at the age of seventeen when she starred in the nineteen ninety. Four film heavenly creatures based on the true story of two teenage girls in an obsessive friendship who murdered one of their mothers because she was trying to separate the girls three years after that indie film from new zealand. She started in the international blockbuster. Titanic her other films include sense and sensibility. U-turn sunshine of the spotless mind revolutionary road and the reader. Her new film amanite isn't imagined version of the life of mary. Ending a nineteenth century self taught paleontologist known for her groundbreaking fossil discoveries. Mary lives in poverty with her. Elderly mother shut off from the world and emotionally withdrawn. She spends her days searching the shoreline for fossils to study. Draw and sell sometimes. She sells the fossils two men who claim them as their own discoveries one day gentleman comes to their fossil shop and brings along his young wife who suffering from depression after a miscarriage. He tells adding that he wants to observe her work and then explains that he's about to go on a paleontology expedition and would like her to watch his wife charlotte while he's gone hoping charlotte will be in good hands and benefit from shadowing mary anne. Marie reluctantly agrees only. Because he's willing to pay a total contrast to rough-hewn mary charlotte murchison is a delicate well-to-do lady. The women don't get along at first but over time. A friendship grows into an intense. Romantic relationship are film critic justin. Chang wrote that. Kate winslet makes mary a profound study. An alien nation and loneliness italy's with other people and deeply protective of her secrets. Let's start with a clip from the film. Charlotte has collapsed and is very ill with a fever and murray has grudgingly been nursing her back to health as charlotte recovers mary softens towards the young woman and they begin to trust and confide in each other. Searcher ronan plays charlotte. Charlotte speaks. i y- tired. I always looked tired. Look off to me like your child. You don't have any other questions might have preferred it when you are unconscious no children so what my mother at ten. I remember six of them dying and two before me. Eight babies dead each one taking something other when they went. I have my work. I didn't need children as well. Kate winslet welcome to fresh air. Let's start with the scene that we just heard what it was like for you as a mother to think about living in a time and a place so harsh that you can have eight. Children die playing. Mary ann and having to carry an enormous amount of her personal history was was really something that i had to spend a good deal of time preparing for We don't meet any of the siblings. Mary has of course just talked about because they all died. You know such was the time in the working lower classes in the very late early eighteenth century and it was part of playing mary. That was fascinating to me. I'd never played someone of that clause before a never that particular period in time and and i found myself coming to play this role shamefully fairly ignorant as to who mary-anne actually was and has scientific significance in history. A woman of her class was never going to be recognized for any of very significant achievements and successes. What were her scientific accomplishments. What were her greatest contributions to the field of paleontology so maryam ing was completely self taught. She was an uneducated child. Mary learns how to find fossils. How to be a paleontologist She learnt it from her father who very sadly died. When mary was only eleven years old and mary was very close to her father She had a really warm significant wonderful strong relationship. Strong bond him and and because of him she was eternally fascinated by fossil. By knowing how to identify what forces were not only to find ammonites but to find dinosaur bones. She discovered the first xia saw when she was eleven years old with her brother. Joseph the two of them. It took them over a year to dig it out but she was a child when she found that she discovered were copper. Light was that's fossilized feces and so. Because of mary we were able to learn and not what dinosaurs at so her role in that particular scientific field was really really significant and of course what happened to marry was that her fines were bought from her by rich more powerful men who claimed them for their own and therefore took credit. She never took credit for anything. They actually put their name on her fines. you portray mary ending somebody who is emotionally shutdown. She later becomes wakened by this passionate affair with the character played by serbia ronin. But in playing somebody who's emotionally shutdown. It seems to me you have to do less to do more you. Character just does not convey emotion. And she's she's very her. Life is all very interior. I think play her almost as if she's on the autism spectrum. Did you think about that. I did think about that. But i had to be very careful with with making assumptions and i certainly crossed my mind i. I decided to build mary based on the grief that i think she felt for her father who had passed whereas i said before and so i think she did develop then abandonment issues and that came into play a lot in terms of how mary functioned in society. I think she was not suspicious of people but just didn't know how to be just a relaxed member of a community. I think she always felt different. I think she felt a little bit odd in comparison to other people and because she was She was living a life of such extreme poverty. I think she was frankly embarrassed about how she looked what she had to offer to just a functioning small seaside community samaras very for me anyway i felt she was a very emotionally complicated person who had emotional chips missing just developmental stages that she perhaps hadn't gone through in her life as a teenager through the loss of her father through the loss of so many siblings that just meant that emotionally and socially she was quite withdrawn and just different and as a consequence kept us off quite separate to other people and lived a fairly isolated and lonely life which is why charlotte brings so much joy into her world. Usa ronan have some passionate and very uninhibited sex scenes together. And i read that. You both choreographed those scenes rather than having somebody else do it and francis lee the writer and director of the film points out in the in the press notes that this was a time in the eighteen hundreds when the medical profession believed women had no sexual pleasure organs and that sexual orientation was categorized only for men. Did you think about that a lot while you were making the film about the lack of comprehension of women's sexuality at that time yes yes Yes we did. Think about the lack of comprehension for women's sexuality very much so because of course it's it's it's i think. Part of the reason why women in particular at that time seemed to form such incredibly strong bonds because because women can share women can express women can emote and be honest with one another and one of the things. I did in terms of researching marian preparing for the heart. I read a lot of letters that were written between women who had romantic relationships women who were in marriages to men some of whom have children and those bonds those friendships became crucial to this sort of means of survival because women were pushed to one side. They weren't expected to speak their mind. They weren't expected to have emotions. Let alone sexual pleasure organs and and and discovering that women did have intimate romantic relationships that came out of these deep friendships As a means of survival with something that i did find very very helpful and one of the things. I feel very very proud. Of when i when i talk about the film and and having seen it now because it always takes me a while to come around to sitting down and watching something that i meant. His wishes to nerve wracking experience. But a part of our story is not to portray these two characters as though they're in some way having a secret or forbidden love affair. And i really appreciated that. Because it storytelling that normalizes and express his same sex love without hesitation without secrecy or fear. You said you're attracted to roles where women broke norms. Do you feel like you've broken norms in your life. I'm laughing. Because i sort of feel like i play by the rules and very much. Don't i think in my in my own in my own life. I mean. I think i don't know i so much of my life is my family. That's very separate to my career. But then also so much of my life is also my and i guess that is my opportunity to break. Rules and break gnomes actually in in life in terms of the structure of life. I i i i. I'm pretty lor abiding citizen. But i suppose that's one of the wonderful things about being an actor is that you can just you can experiment and play and break the rules and take risks and and do things do really challenge you and scare you. I mean playing this part. I was scared every day. I would go home and i would. I would think to myself okay. What did i actually do anything today. That read on screen at all. Because of course the details the emotional details of playing mary a so a so subtle. I'm so sparse and there were two emotions that i wasn't allowed to show very often in playing mary. Earning almost no happiness and sadness. No no real tears now. Those are two emotions that actors tend to lean on. I would say a pretty good deal so learning how to use up anything. In between those two powerful emotions was really odd at am. Very nerve wracking. So the spas pared back emotion of quiet expression and limited physical expression and emotion was something i had a really hard time with obvious emotions pride and happiness and sadness and joy and longing. Were all feelings. I had to find other ways of expressing and sometimes just using my eyes or the backs of my hands and there were days. When i doubt whether i'd done anything at actually registered tool and i had to earn every flicker of emotion their armaments a few moments. When you really do see mary. Smile and express great joy francis. Lee was very clear with me. No this is not the place we have to earn it. We've got to get to that place. Let me go to get to that place to hold back. Hold back hold it back. And and that was It was it was. I had to learn to trust him. I had to really learn to to count on him to guide me. Because i often couldn't count on myself to know and i just had to concentrate all the time and i don't think i was much fun to hang out with. Actually when we were in fact i'm pretty. I'm pretty sure i wasn't. So how are you spending the covert era spending the cove area era with my with my family with my husband and my three children earlier on in the year we had We had my my brother in law and his partner in our bubble and then when lockdown kind of e- somewhat. They returned to their life in london. But you know sticking to the rules and An being extremely careful. I did just return to work for nine weeks in philadelphia to complete a television series called mayor of his town that i've been doing for hbo And that was extraordinarily experiencing actually returning to work following covert protocols being tested every single day everybody wearing mosques and face shields And and being careful as we possibly could and an an existing in a really in a bubble you know go home go to work go home go to work and and just really looking out for everybody and and ourselves you in a movie of years ago called contagion that was directed by steven soderbergh. That was about a pandemic it was about a respiratory virus that originated in china. And you know people have to wear masks in the movie. It sounds like i haven't seen the film. I'll confess but it's a things are even worse in the movie you know more rioting and looting and chaos in the in the streets. What was it like for you when the pandemic started having been in that film. And i should mention you die of the you're an epidemiologist in the film and you you die in it. So yes yeah that's true. I yes i. I do play an epidemiologist. You're right and the character was called. Doctor erin mirrors and we worked very closely with cdc in in putting together that story and i walked alongside epidemiologists in order to play that part and it was utterly fascinating. A lot of. I have to be honest. The science just went over my head. I left school at sixteen. And was you know. I didn't do much in the way of sciences in biology school and and it was really eye opening learning to understand how a disease mutates etcetera etcetera But when cove ahead because of my experience doing contagion. I was one of the first ones walking down the street in philadelphia wearing a mask with people looking at me like i was absolutely crazy and of course within weeks a lot. More people were wearing masks and gloves and walking around with hand sanitizer and wipes and spray and so on. But because i had that experience and learn how quickly it can spread. I was very. I was very afraid very leon and that feeling of wanting to get out of a big city. Get away from people you know. Protect your own family. I mean i. Yeah i absolutely had that feeling quite quickly because i'd been in contagion. It's hard to find the bright side of the pandemic but you have pointed out that it's been a relief not to have to travel to do press junkets to promote movies that you're in right now. You're talking to us from your home and you don't have to dress up and get makeup and have your hair done and the whole the whole bit on our show on radio. You would need to do that anyway. But what are some of the pressures that you typically do have when you do have to travel and do press john. What are some of the things you really dislike about that aspect of being an actress and being of being a woman in the movie industry. I try i try really hard and not use. The word dislike Because because this you know it it just always sounds like. I don't know i would never want found in any way ungrateful but for me. One of the hardest things you know. It's it's it's a very difficult job to do. I will say one of the things that is hard about doing press for film as you rightly point out is traveling away from ones. Family is something that i've never. I've never gotten used to. I don't have any systems or tricks or tips for anybody. How do you juggle it all. I'm so often asked. It just is a juggle an every job different. Every press junket is different. Every part of it is different depending on on the film and and one of the bright sides the only thing about covert and lockdown that for for me and for us as a unit wonderful is that my older two children are twenty and about ten seventeen. And they'll be gone soon. And i was very very aware of really making the most of time with them play play with them mucking around having a good time really cooking together teaching them how to cook things so that they can go off into the world know how to whip up basic healthy meal for themselves and a few friends and and actually seeing the joy in their faces. That really loving doing that on really wanting to make the chicken suit the way i've always made it and now they can and so so being able to make the most of those experiences and my father is eighty one years old. We lost my mother in two thousand seventeen actually to be able to give real time to him now that he's by himself That has also been the has also been very very special and i. You know. I've been very grateful for those quiet family times that that might not be here forever. Let me reintroduce you here. If you're just joining us my. Is kate winslet. And she stars in the new movie amanite it streaming on video on demand including apple itunes. It's also playing in select theaters. We'll be right back after we take a short break. I'm terry gross and this is fresh air. This message comes from. Npr sponsor capital one. Welcome to banking reimagined. Capital checking and savings accounts have no fees or minimums and a top rated banking app. That lets you manage your money anytime anywhere. Check on the account. Balance deposit checks pay bills and transfer money on the go. This is banking reimagined. What's in your wallet capital one. Na member fdic. Get back to my interview with kate. Winslet she stars in the new film amanite. Her other films include heavenly creatures titanic sense and sensibility. Eternal sunshine of the spotless. Mind revolutionary road and the reader. You've talked about how when you were young. You were fat. And you've used the word to describe how you look and and you said that when you were young like in school it limited the kind of roles you could get You became known in movies for being. You know beautiful. So i'm wondering if you felt like pressured to look that way in order to have a career. Look i think this huge pressure on on on women in in in the public eye and the film industry you know is is no exception to that and i just want to live my life with complete integrity and sincerity and to always be myself and to always be able to look another young actor in the eye and just say look. People told me. I was not going to have a career because i was the wrong shape. I was too fat. I had to lose weight. And look i did it. I will be saying that to my grave and even when the odds are stacked against you. I was called blubber. I had kids. Lock me in a cupboard and say blubbing in the cupboard. I was very badly bullied and teased at school. But somehow i had this in determination and and would you know it was hard. It was horrible. i would go home. i would cry. I wouldn't want to go back to school the next day. But i knew that i wanted to be an actress one day and i just had to push it to one side. I had to push those horrible bullies in those awful feelings to one side and just hang onto my dream. I was even told by an agent when i was much younger but i was only ever going to get the fat girl parts. Have you had to think a lot about like what is beauty. I have had to yes in kalat about that. And i think when you're younger young woman i think often people think beauty is about their face or about their body or about how many boyfriends they have or how many invites on dates they get and of course i've i really genuinely i genuinely did suffer i. I'm gonna use that word suffer. I suffered a huge deal at the hands of the british. Press in terms of how i looked and just recently i had to just for just the some legal things. I had to go through some old newspaper articles From years ago from one thousand nine hundred ninety eight till two thousand seven two thousand and eight and i was so distressed to read how unbelievably brutal and crew the press. Were they would even talk about estimate what i weighed looking looking a weighty you know one hundred and forty pounds first of all i didn't know one hundred and forty pounds even waiting so reading the things that they said. I was so staggered. That i had some. How would i. How had i- coked. When i was subjected to such really truly unkind painful public ridiculing for how i looked so definitely. The question of what is beautiful. Had to come into play for me. Because i had to work hard to ignore this proper cruelty that i was subjected to you. You movie career in nineteen ninety four when you are seventeen and made the film heavenly creatures a lot has changed in the movie industry since then including you know. A lot of change for women are more directors and screenwriters. And i think it's fair to say more good roles for women than there were in in the nineties. Although you know heavenly creatures was a great film and a and a great role but i'm wondering if there are things in terms of how men in the industry with treat you or what they would say to you on set off. You thought. well that's just the way it is. I you know. I'll just kind of you know. Take it and move on just like ignore it and move on that you would feel differently about now that you would like say something. Yeah things have changed. Things have changed. Need to change more. But i think continuing to at least go in the right direction to the point that i don't think we'll ever go back to the way that it was. Yeah i mean without going into specifics of stories You know yeah. I would go into an audition room as a young person and would just learn to accept that if the male director felt like reading in the lines of the male role in that particular scene and would get a little bit too close for comfort. Well you just knew that. That was just the way that it was. But it's not that way now. I it is not that way now at all and i certainly do feel much safer and i feel much more looked out for now because there are specific ways in which people are just not allowed to behave anymore. You told a story to vanity fair. About how i think it's for the hbo odor. Is that you. Ju just finished shooting theft for one scene. The young actress in the movie had to do You the scene was going to be shot in the car and it was a a love scene. A lesbian love scene in new state in the trunk of the car. Just to be there for her and make sure that that she was respected and treated well during the shooting of that scene. Can you talk about that a little bit and also did they know you're in the trunk of the car. Yeah so it was. It was a it was a night shoot and there was a scene between two. Lgbtq characters in our story and one of the characters was played by an australian actress named gary. Rice who's eighteen at the time was eighteen. Which was is the same age as my daughter. And i could just sense that she was i could sense that she was nervous and i was worried that she wouldn't have. I don't know just someone there in her corner. I wanted her to feel supported. And i also wanted her to know that she could use me as a filter if she didn't feel confident enough to turn to the director and the writer and say actually. I'm not sure about this or would it be okay if i did this instead and so i said listen i would like to stay and just be here for you just in case you need anything at all. There were two camera operators in the car with them lovely dignified respectful people who've been in the industry for years but still they were two men and it was going to be the two of them filming these two young women. That didn't sit right with me. And so i said to both these girls stating kashi jump in the trunk and they were like oh can you. Could you fit. It would just be lovely to have someone there. That's what i did i just. I sat in the trunk. And i was there for them and between takes. Say everyone okay. Anyone needs water. Dini me to pas anything along. And then i'd get out of the trunk and i would go and something to the director in grab some water in that i'd get in the wrong can on the water and then we would shoot again and it just seemed to work in that particular moment for those actors to have that level of support. My felt very honored that they wanted me to be there and that it was genuinely helpful to them and you know the most important part for me was that they both knew that. Actually speaking your mind and being able to say okay with this. And i'm not okay with that trying to give them the tools with which to do that for themselves. That was very important to be able to sort of pass that along. Do you wish you had somebody like that when you were seventeen and heavenly creatures. Yes yes i. What did you need help with them. I think first of all just veep the confronting nature of being half naked in front of a crew of people. You barely know actually now what happens more often than not on films is we have something could be coaches. and so. that's that's where. I do. Wish i had had. That person in my corner had been seventeen years old. Let me reintroduce you. If you're just joining us. My guest is kate winslet. She stars the new movie. Amanite will be right back. This is fresh air. This message comes from. Npr sponsor ancestry this year. Gather round the family tree with ancestry. Give your loved ones and ancestry. Gift membership to let them unwrapped their history and discover the fascinating people in their past or surprised them with ancestry dna so they can uncover their origins ancestries. Holiday sale is the perfect time to give a gift that connects them to family in new ways. So even if you can't all be under one roof this year come together over your family story. Go to ancestry. Dot com slash. Npr writer bertam day. Thirst says this democracy experiment requires more than just voted. This is incumbent. On all of us it takes to it. Takes two to make a thing. Go right they sued and both parties national level discourse both sides have to still remain committed to be a good citizen. That's on the ted radio hour from npr. This is fresh air. Let's get back to my interview with kate. Winslet she stars in the new movie amanite which streaming video on demand including apple items. So you come from a family of actors. I think on your mother's side. Yes it's really interesting. The the acting does come more from my mother's side but my mother herself and god rest her soul. She was never an actress. My mother was very very shy and absolutely stayed home and and and was a mom and an uncared for as well she was also a brilliant chef in one of my uncles was a chef. So for time When we were on at school she she worked for him for a little while. You're right the acting did come more from my mother's side so so both. Her parents were actors. My grandmother actually went to school with no coward when he was younger. Yes fascinating story. And and then she had six children and became more of a more of a a mother and less of an actress as as time went by and her husband was an actress. Well and they ran the old reading Repertory fit company and the theater was in their back garden. So my mom very much grew up with these mad loud actors to sort of lashing through the house and rehearsing in the garden. And that was the theater. And so this kind of i i wish to. I have seen it. I would have loved to have just been you know child standing in the hallway watching all this wonderful sort of creative chaos. Go on this artistry set of eccentric behaviour. i would absolutely loved it but my mom hated it. She always just hated it. Which is interesting because then admired my dad. Who was one of her. Brother's friends on was an actor. So my dad was an to when i was when i was younger and then later on actually became more of a musician. He's a jazz singer as well. But then my sister's honor and beth one's younger ones older they both also acted a lot too. And it's amazing now to me. My daughter mia. She's actually acting now as well and so often in our house. We play kind of old fashioned during games. Oh paula games in someone's reaching for a piece of scrap paper and it is always the back page is the back of a script always so i constantly find crazy drawings or games that we've paid own my god that's a that's an old draft of eternal sunshine okay. We can't leave these in the restaurant. We call them like quick. Gather up the papers because there's always the back of some very important script. Was your mother baffled that you wanted to go into acting when she so much wanted to avoid it you know. I think i think to be to be completely honest. She was always very encouraging and nurturing and supportive actually. It was more my dad who had been the out of work actor. More than the in-work actor through much of my childhood. It was more my father who was very nervous because of course he'd spent so much of his life not getting work and having to support a family of four children either. My father was also a bricklayer and a postman and christmas tree seller he was. He was much more those things than actually in work actor. So you know. Because of how. I speak it so often the case that people assume that. I'm trained classically trained. And even when i say i'm really not i really left school at sixteen and i honestly got people somehow. Don't quite believe me. But because i speak well with because my grandmother did go to a theater. School was taught to speak well that then sort of filters down through. I think the mother's bloodline more than the fathers often. So my mother spoke very well. So then we as children all spoke very well but we working class. And i never forget actually having a with a director who shall remain nameless When i was sixteen years old a working class irish filmmaker and and he said to me. Oh he said oh. You're not working class. I said. I yes i said. Listen to the way you talk and gave me such a complex. It made me feel so embarrassed that i spoke well and it also made me think we'll we'll but does that does that. Mean the i the icon. Be honest about my my roots about my my life but my childhood and all of those things and and actually i think it did make me kind of clam up for a while. I didn't really talk about where i came from because people just simply didn't believe me because i've always we always spoke well so you'd have school when you were sixteen because you didn't like school because you wanted to become a professional actor because i wanted to become an actor but also because i had to get a job had to work my. My parents didn't have any kind of money for college. Fees or anything. Like that. I wasn't i wasn't very intelligent. I wasn't also wasn't really very happy in school. Like sitting down and really learning things. I wanted to be out in the world and so i just imagined that i was gonna just do my best and you know. Look in all those big newspapers that advertised or dishes for for two things. I would try and audition and get jobs. And i would work. I would do waitressing. Or i would work in a. I don't know. I would work in in a in a in a shot. Paul and i did all of those things for the first few years in fact it wasn't until after sense and sensibility when i really was then officially able to start true. I was then making a living from being an actor. Hera titanic ginger life. It definitely changed. It changed my private life. My private life suddenly wasn't private at all and that was something that was very very hard for me to come to terms with And it it changed my aminat change my career completely because of course what it did as well as teach me a huge amount. You know people often forget. That titanic was seven months shoot. I learned so much about acting about the process of filmmaking. You know there's so much to learn. And that takes a long time. And i hadn't been taught it in school so i was learning on the fly really on the fly and that experience of making that film was rich with wonderful things that i learned But it changed my life because it gave me. He gave me freedom of choice and that was incredible at the age of twenty one. Twenty two but i will be completely honest i. I wasn't ready for that level of choice. I wasn't ready for this big fat career. And so actually what i did was. I shied away from playing big roles in big studio films that had huge budgets. Because it didn't feel right to me and people say this is a moment in time. It might never come around again. And i would say but but i like that low budget film called hideous kinky this in marrakesh but that go down. No one's going to see that. Why would you wanna do that. But somehow i knew. I wasn't i didn't have enough. I actually didn't feel that. I knew enough as an actor to really be able to step into the shoes of sort of film star. Those are two words that i feel deeply uncomfortable with even today. I wanted to be an actress. And and i had a lot to learn and somehow i knew that i had a lot to learn. I didn't wanna fake it. And i didn't want to feel under pressure and also i didn't want to fail. I wanted to be in a position where i could always say. I'm an actress to be forty five years old as i am today and still be able to say. I'm an actress and not to have fizzled out. Not have experienced. Burn out and not to have given bad performances. Because i simply didn't know how to do it enough in those days. When i was that young and so i was able to choose small things that made me feel a little bit more protected and a little bit more connected to smaller crews of people who i felt safe with and who i could learn from kate winslet. Thank you so much for talking with us. It's been a pleasure. Thank you likewise. Thank you very much for having me. Kate winslet stars in the new film. Amanite it's now streaming on premium video on demand including apple itunes. it's also playing in select theaters. This is fresh air. This message comes from. Npr sponsor tele. Doc tell doc offers access to licensed therapists by phone or video to help those dealing with stress anxiety personal or family issues. Tele doc is committed to quality confidential therapy from the comfort of your home available seven days a week matching members to therapists counsellors and psychiatrists tele doc. 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David fincher has directed new black and white drama called manque about anklewicz his life and art and the inspiration for his work and citizen kane. Manque is streaming. Net flicks are film critic. Justin chang has a review the delicious inside. Hollywood drama begins in nineteen forty at a ranch. In the desert town of victorville california. Where herman j mangku wits is holding up. For a few months recovering from a broken leg he spent that time writing the screenplay that will yield one of the cinema's all-time masterpieces citizen kane. The tale of charles foster kane. A newspaper tycoon loosely. Inspired by william randolph hearst films groundbreaking visual narrative complexity will make its twenty five year old director and star orson welles. A hollywood legend but bank is an out to burnish wells' reputation it's about the lesser known mankiewicz a brilliant acerbic hard-drinking writer played by superb. Gary oldman who after years of cranking out scripts for studios like paramount and. Mgm came to do the most work of his life. Manque is a tribute to the art of screenwriters like mankiewicz many of them new york journalists novelists playwrights who flocked to hollywood and despite their scepticism toward the industry helped make its movies. Great fittingly manque is also one writers labor of love. The script was written in the nineteen nineties by the journalist. Jack fincher who died in two thousand three. Now years later it's been dusted off and directed by his son david venture known for earlier fact-based dramas like zodiac and the social network manque is another dazzling feat of historical reimagining exquisitely detailed and impeccably made. It's black and white surfaces so rich and evocative that you want to sink into it but you also want to lean forward so as not to miss a word of its mile a minute. Dialogue in one scene mankiewicz receives gushing feedback from his editor. John houseman played by sam troughton. Also present is his secretary. Rita alexander that's lily collins who painstakingly transcribed every word of the script down good. I haven't done highest authority. It's the best thing he's ever done as a moving picture. It's more than good. I'm at a loss to even express how wealth and influence can crush man. It's clear the dark night of the soul. And i was completely mistaken. The shifting point of view is revolutionary. I never thought one could care so much about a slit kind of you to say talk. Three hundred and twenty seven pages and embarrassment of riches. When dog faced boy gets here there will be plenty of branches too far too long screenplay for the ages. John houseman. I built him. Watertight narrative suggested destination where he takes his job although the question of whether welles or mankiewicz deserves more credit for writing citizen. Kane is still disputed by some critics and historians manque. The movie only briefly touches on the debate. Like many truth inspired films. It's a playful. We've of fact and fiction and without disputing wells genius. It argues that mankiewicz his role in the movie authorship was not just essential but foundational. The story jumps back and forth in time showing us mango. It's a steady rise through the industry ranks in the nineteen thirties. And the many friends and enemies make along the way who will influence the plot of citizen kane mankiewicz as gossipy wit earns a place in the inner circle. Of william randolph. Hearst played by a rep. Dillion charles dance. Mankiewicz becomes close friends with hearst's longtime companion. The actress marion davies. Who will serve as the basis for canes own paramore davies played by a terrific if used man ciphered hearst castle in san simeon where mankiewicz is a regular party. Guest will become canes gothic estate. Xanadu but mango what's most significant. Influence isn't a person or place. It's a political campaign specifically the nineteen thirty four california gubernatorial race in which hirst conspiring with top. Mgm players like louis. B mayer and paul. Berg torpedoes the democratic candidate upton sinclair who socialist views deplore this subplot set against the labor struggles of depression era. Hollywood deliver some of the stories most fascinating and resonant moments. The movie industry may be known today for its liberalism but manque returns us to a time when the studios were closely tied to conservative media. And were not above manipulating voters with phony newsreels and other forms of propaganda. Mankiewicz has a naturally rebellious anti-establishment streak and he becomes deeply disillusioned by these political manipulations and so years later after he and hearst have fallen out citizen kane becomes a kind of revenge a tragic corrosive portrait of a man who gains a vast media empire and loses his soul once word gets out hearst and his hollywood minions. Try to keep the movie from seeing the light of day mango. What's his own brother. Joseph who one day right and direct his own hollywood classic all about eve urges him not to bite the hand that used to feed him. But herman mankiewicz doesn't back down and oldman's performance captures his complicated mix of fiction and contempt for the industry that made and broke him. The actor lays bare mankiewicz his vices from his on this for drinking and gambling to his neglect of his wife sarah played by tuppence middleton. He also shows us the man's underlying decency whether he's condemning the fascist tide sweeping through nineteen thirties europe or morning a close colleague who's chewed up and spat out by hollywood. Mankiewicz is both cynical and idealistic. He knows the toughness. It takes to make personal art in commercially driven medium and to get the recognition. You deserve manque is a wondrous tribute to his fighting spirit. Justin chang the film critic for the la times. He reviewed manque which is streaming on net flicks. Tomorrow on fresh air. Our guest will be veteran. Rock and roll photographer bob gruen. He didn't just shoot dozens of famous musicians. He traveled with many and drank with them into the wee hours in a new book. He describes touring with the sex pistols worrying. Once that bob dylan was about a hit him with a cane and his long friendship with john lennon. I hope you'll join us on. Whatever gets you through. Fresh air's executive producer is danny miller. Our technical director and engineer is audrey. Bentham our interviews and reviews and produced and edited by emi salad. phyllis myers sambor lauren. Crandell had he summoned to recent madden emoryville. D'amato they are challenor. Seth kelly and carolina associate producer of digital media. Is molly seavy nesper. Roberta shorrock directs the show. I'm terry gross.

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GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 164: Survival

GSMC Movie Podcast

30:49 min | 8 months ago

GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 164: Survival

"Can't decide in torn between a romantic comedy action or an Indie film to watch for the weekend. Well well, golden state media concepts move you. PODCAST is your ultimate guide to the latest movies. Join us is we dissect the latest on the blockbusters? It's the Golden State media concept's movie podcast. Own. Hello and welcome to the GMC movie podcast brought to you by GMC podcast network. I'm your host Stacey today. We will be talking about to. Survival but also kind of story movies, which is Adrift and the mountains between us. So as of this recording adrift has just come out and Mrs be film based on a True Story, starring Shailene Woodley and Kathleen about a couple who is sailing yacht across the Pacific Ocean when they run into a hurricane, which disables their yacht, and they have to try and find a way to survive when they're out in the middle of the ocean far from where they meant to be and they can't. They can't move as quickly as they'd like because the boats kind of broken down. So. Yeah, this film. I was going into it I was more interested in the story than the actors. I liked Sim Coughlin as Finnick in Hungary game films, but I don't know that I've seen him in. I'm not sure I've seen him in anything else and if I have, it didn't really leave an impression on me. I've not been the biggest Shailene Woodley. Family Woodley Fan before. I watched the first two divergent in films and just. I mean I don't super like those films in general I. Think There's a number of problems with them, but it didn't really care for her and. I. I have not really wanted to see too much else that she's been in like I actually read the fault in our stars and got emotional about it, and then was like you know what I've read it. I don't even though I'd like to see the film. I'm not a big. Fan so I just I won't. But she. Rises and my estimation in this film she. If you've seen the previews, you know that, Sam. Coughlin's character gets injured. He has broken leg and broken ribs and can't really do much. In this whole. We have to find some way to survive as we're drifting in the ocean thing so she has to do most of the heavy lifting like both metaphorically, but also physically she has to lift a metal pole. She a one point has to pool same Catherine his character statements Richard Out of the ocean, and he can't really help her at all. She has to do a lot of the physical stuff, but she also. Has To do a lot of the. Storytelling acting wise because he can't really do much, he can't even. Move Too much because his character would be in so much pain, so he a lot of time. kind of talks with his eyes closed or kind of talks looking very. Not fully awake enough I mean broken leg and broken ribs in the middle of the sea where you're running out of food and water and don't really have you know proper medicine? Yeah, I'd I'd be. You know off somewhere to and my mind a lot to deal with. So in this film we start with. The part sort of in the preview where you see her. In, the cabin that has a bunch of water, and she's yelling for Richard and can't find him and then jump back in time to before that whole thing happened, and before she even met him, and the film kind of does that back and forth where we'll go back to the the ruined the ought after during or after the hurricane, and then we'll jump back in time to a happier time that sort of sometimes connects but. Just tells the story in in order so beyond the time jumping if you think of this sort of. Jumped to the president trump to the past to the present, the past and present are moving in order. We don't jump to pass you know past part two and then passport five, and then jump back to pass three. The past part does tell the story in order of the characters Tammy and Richard, meeting Tahiti and getting to know each other becoming interested in each other and starting a relationship, and then agreeing to go on this trip, and the present time does go and order. It seems it's a little hard to tell with the the timing there 'cause she was at sea I can't. It's the so the timing of this movie is just all over kind of complicated. If you don't know win, it's based. You might not be able to figure it out. We never really say the year and you can kind of tell from the styles and the fact that like she, these shorts are. Sort of high waisted. That it's either. Probably the seventies, maybe early eighties, or they've completely ignored whenever it happened and put it into modern day times when those sort of higher wasted things have come back and style, but you kind of guests. It's not like the nineties or something, and after the fact, looking at up turns out, it is actually ever leave eighty three, but I'm not sure I would meet. There is a picture at one point in San Coughlin's opt with. Some location and eighty on it as a memento, so I knew we were at least past the beginning of eighty three, but couldn't have told you much of anything else. And I guess that's kind of okay. It didn't distract to much from the story. Except for the. Beginning of the past part because shaving Woodley's character. Has Been traveling around the world for the past five years without going home, she just sort of works her way from one place to the next, and has ended up into hedy where Sam Coughlin's character. Likes to sail around the world even though it can at times be very difficult. I guess he likes it. Because it's sort of freeing or whatever makes him feel alive even when he feels terrible. So they're both. Very sort of adventurous and free willing. And that plus the fact that I knew it was based on a true story is the only thing that makes the beginning kind of believable because when they go off on this ill-fated trip, they've known each other for five months. And you know that because we jumped from that opening shot of her on the broken yacht, calling out for Richard To. Five months before, and he's just like five months. You need to go off. The Pacific Ocean with this guy. You've known for five months really. But as you see, she's very much I. will jump from place to place around the country of around the world, and he's very much of the I. will sail the oceans by myself, so it's like Oh. Yeah. You're both really sort of. A bit, wild and spontaneous. Okay, that's more believable actually now I'm with you okay, and then when we get to the the yacht. We the actual hurricane? Is Actually considered part of the past point because we start after the hurricane when she wakes up, so we don't get to the huge hurricane until. Probably about three fourths or so through the way, but that works because. You already know what's coming because it. Even if you didn't know this the story, you probably saw the previews and or you know she. She ends up on the Scott calling for Richard, so we know we get there somehow, and it's not from the very happy in love. Couple from T- that we keep flashing back to. But then be, it also serves as a good. Emotional I don't WANNA SAY CLIMAX! I'm not sure it's quite the climax, but you do. It does serve to have this emotional climb going through live other just there and then. Oh, they're in this relationship, so I'm starting to hear about that and then. Oh, they decided to go on this trip. And then while this hurricane I'm really into this and now I get where we are right now, and this is all sorts of intense. So I thought that the timing even with the time jump back and forth. was actually handled pretty well. like I said earlier Shailene Woodley does most of the heavy lifting this and in looking this film up. She was signed to do it much earlier than same coughlin was the. We're actually a number of different actors who sort of considered before he came on, and he's. He's not an afterthought in the film. I won't say that, but because he is so limited in what he can do physically. It's very much shady. When lead story, especially for the surviving part of her having to fix the odd and go searching through the yacht, which does have a lot of water and try and figure out how to solve all these problems of okay. The gods got a leak in their. They got patch the league. Okay, where's the food? Do we have any food? How do I get fresh water out here? You know. How do I solve this problem? And then there's this other problem then. Okay, we can't. Can't figure out how do we? She has to solve all these problems because he can't give her any help. So it's very easy to just sort of forget times that he's there and I found myself once or twice forgetting that he was on the until we went back to a past moment. Then it's like Oh. Yeah, that's right. You're in the story to and okay. We're going to see you in a moment again. 'cause we know you're on this gap Oh, I forgot about that, yeah! There's not even too many other people in the film. Besides those two we do see the girl. Who in the trailer says bomb, voyage lovers, and at the end of the film I really struggled to remember her name because we only hear at once and we don't. Really Talk to her too much, so it's just like wait. who were you and then we do meet the couple that. Asked them to sail the yacht to California. Though it's not super clear on how we know them except that. I. Guess All the Yachting People into hedy. Know Each Other, or maybe they ran into. Quite clear how Sam knows the, but you somehow Zain. They asked Kim to sail the back to California for them and so. Sam wants to do that with Tammy. I'm sorry I should be either sticking with the character's names are sticking with the actor's name, so Richard Character wants to take the trip to sail across the Pacific with Tammy. and convinces her to go with him, and then we get into the main story so beyond the two of them. It's very easy, even though you do see other people because they're in Tahiti when it starts. It's very easy to forget that there's anything else out there. Even to the point of And this is probably because. They themselves don't have too much hope of it, either even to the point of thinking Oh, hey, maybe someone could rescue them, because either out in the middle of the ocean, but be they're not where they would have been prior to the hurricane, so even if people were searching for them, they wouldn't know where to look for them, but there's not anyone we've really connected to. Sort of on the other side of the trip. We're not expecting to see the couple again because they have to deal with something they've. They've asked them to make the trip. And then they'll pay to fly them back and Tammy writes to her, but we never actually even see her mother. We just talk about her, so it's really just Richard and Tammy for. Ninety Ninety five percent of the film, so it has to come down to just the two of them, and because Richard is injured. It's really just down to Tammy as she's not as helpless as trailers make her seem. It seems like Richard is the one who sales and Tammy is. There for some reason, but has maybe never been on board a boat in her life, and that's not the case. In real life, evidently I guess. And looking this up. They said that she was an avid sailor, but in the film she's portrayed as. Having sailed before, but not a sailor, and she even says that herself I'm not a sailor, but I I do know what a Jib is or whatever and I don't I've never sailed periods so i. kind of. Don't know what that is, so she does kind of know a bit of what she's doing. She's not as great as. Great, as great at it as Richard is, but she's not as completely helpless as I expected going into this film, having seen the trailers, but that doesn't mean. It's easy for her, and it's a bit and again. This goes back to that. They're both clearly wild and free willing. Even though I know, this is a true story. Seeing the think some of the choices she makes once. We have the hurricane. I can think he should have died like five times over. There's one part in the beginning wear. The mask has been broken with the sale on it and it keeps banging up against the boat, so she's trying to cut it free. But in doing so the I think it's a gym or the sale the whatever falls with the math that she doesn't want that to happen, so she grabs at it, but then falls into the water, and then ends up below the sale in the water, and so nearly drowns and I'm like there's an you are by yourself is spilling the best choices to be making? But then even when we have Richard. There's some things where that's not exactly what I think. Your priority should be when you. See and don't have very much chance of getting anywhere. Like at one point. She discovers a jar of peanut butter, and they're both so excited about that and I'm just like, but peanut butter would make you thirsty, and you have very limited water. What are you doing? So it's a bit strange at times I'm just like no K I. Don't know that that's the best choice to make in this life or death situation, but you do have the emotional ties between Tammy and Richard to where you want this to work out, and you're really sort of pulling for them to survive, so it's actually pretty good film it. I won't say. But it does improve Shane Woodley and my mind, and for someone who was not a fan of hers I think she actually does really well in this film. So we're gonNA take a short break, stay tuned! Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searched. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than a podcast lists with endless hours of podcast covered from news, sports, music, fashion, entertainment, fantasy, football, and so much more so stop blurted around. Go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to fill that podcast. Whatever it may be, visit us at www dot gs MC podcast dot com follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes. soundcloud and Google play. Welcome back to the GMC. Movie podcast our second survival film. Today is the mountains between us. which I had wanted to see even when it came out just because that looked intense, although with both of these films I now neither want to. I most definitely would not go across the notion, but it also kind of makes me. I mean I I was not a big fan of flying very small planes, either so it's both more like not so much. I won't do things that I normally do as to I feel reassured of my. What at the time seemed to? Maybe you're rational fear that now like Nope, definitely not getting into those small versions of things. If I'm going to travel in that way, it's going to be on the larger, seemingly safer version of a boat or plane so in this film. Kate winslet and you just. Are trapped at an airport because of a storm, and they both have very strong reasons for needing to be back to where they're going immediately and so kate winslet comes up with the idea sort of charter. This small plane to take them to the airport. They're supposed to get to where they would then catch their connecting flight, so they decide to do this, but the pilot does not file a flight pant plan. And things go somewhat wrong. And they ended up out in the middle of it like it's called the mountains between us, but they're like literally out in the middle of I think a mountain range in the snow. Where no one knows where they are, and they don't have a way to contact anyone because they have no cell. Reception and them trying to find a way to survive. Do we stay in the plane hoping to be rescued? Do we try and get down the mountain to find help what we do and I only have you this other one person to depend on? And the story line is just. Okay. I found myself as we were going into it. Really hoping that we wouldn't have a love story and we get something from Kate's. backstory at the beginning of that I'm like okay. It's just going to be a survivor slim, and what that means as us as humans turning to others in our moment of need and all that. And then yeah, we do get a love story. Oh. Just Yeah, Have Sigh. There's not was just like Oh really and I found myself as we start seeing them. Sort of. Not even have feelings sorta connect to each other more even though they still sorta frustrate each other, but because they have to rely on each other, they start getting closer, and it starts feeling more and more like we might possibly get to a love story, and I found myself constantly thinking of that line from speed about relationships based on circumstances never lasting, and it's just like. Yeah, this is not gonNA work. This is a wants gazillion. GAZILLION thing that doesn't happen to most people, and if you get off the off this mountain, what are you GonNa do this. Don't talk to us. Why are we doing love story and you know I've never been in a life or death situation like this so I don't know. Maybe it's natural for the human being to want to turn to others in that moment and feelings, just not being rational that comes out as being A. I love this person because we. Survived together, or we're in the life or death together, or they saved my life or whatever? But yeah, I, kind of really do wish there wasn't a low story in the film, and if the actors weren't as good as Kate, winslet and he just are just in general. This would not be that great of a film because story. Wise, it's just. It's just okay. It is evidently based off a book. But I haven't read it. And it's just. Not Not Terrible, not terribly formulaic, but not super great, because again it would have been amazing to see how this will play out without a love story, but whatever? winslet and Elba. Are just. Really good actors in general and they do a good job here with what is not the best material. Egypt Oba. Is playing a Londoner. so He's is doing. I'm not sure if that's his actual natural accent, but he does have a British accent whereas Kate winslet is actually playing an American, so she is not using her original accent, but they are sort of. Conflict definitely in style. He is a surgeon. He's much more sort of stick to the rules. He likes to be prepared and in control, and she is much more. She's a a photo, journalist or something. She flies by the seat of Japan's. She's much more of sort of. We have to just go with our feelings and there is a conversation. They have at one point where she's asking about what he does, and he's a brain surgeon, and she says why the brain he explains why. The brain is just such this thing and she's like well. What about the heart and he like the hardest? Just the muscle, but you can very clearly tell that's supposed to be a juxtaposition between them him being the brain liking to be logical liking thinks things through and her being the heart, and just going much more based off of feelings and emotions. And there's a number of things that's the only one that really comes up sort of. Dialogue wise, but there's a number of times in the film where visually they're kind of juxtaposed against each other. There's this one shot which is really great, and then we refer back to a bit later where you see. Egypt Elba's face, but only kate winslet's hand. And I won't go into. Why exactly that shot is just so gray, but it's possibly like my favorite shot in the film, and then later after they've had an argument. You see her sitting down and him. Outside this window and There's A. There's a flag behind her head for some reason, but you can clearly see this sort of like. Oh yes, this is how we're separated sort of thing, not just between this pane of glass, but also they're standing almost an opposition. She's on the right. He's on the left, facing each other, but not quite looking at each other, and you can sort of see. This is what we're supposed to be looking at their sort of opposed to each other got it. Those aren't too heavy and there's not a lot of them I. Liked most of them when they came up but yet and then. The. I don't know maybe twenty minutes of this film are so were just sort of. For me and I think that's a lot where. The film where people maybe didn't like the film as much, it doesn't feel like the film. Finished well based off of what we got with the whole confrontation of them, and then having to learn how to work together because they've only got each other to survive to where we get in, the ending is just sort of. Oh. Hey! I guess that's maybe. Realistic Gish but There's a thing again, not the best material. There's a thing with a dog in this film that. A good amount of time just felt like no really. Just, why do we have? This dog is just sort of a device. Do we really have to have the dog and would to people in this? You know. Very desperate survival situation really care as much about the dog as they do do because at one point, the dog is injured and Kate. winslet wants him to take care of the dog, and so they do, and it was like what we really like what you really be like Oh. We've gotTa Save the port all while we ourselves are afraid. We're GONNA. Die Out here on this mountain. Really. That's your I can i. I've never been in either of these situation so I. Don't know what my priorities would be but I'm just like priorities people. You could die. Are these really your priorities right now? Okay, whatever but we do then leader again. The dog is sort of a device. We do see reason later why we needed the dog or otherwise the story couldn't have continued the way it did, but for the most part most of the time when the dogs they're just like. Why is the dog there? Except that I think also there may be needed to be a break because again like adrift. There are other characters in this film, but you don't see them. Very much at all it is mostly o'byrne winslet on the mountain by themselves and dealing with each other and unlike. In Sam Coughlin's characters in Adrift. Cell and Kate winslet. In love when this story starts, and so they don't even have that connection, and so they don't even have that connection. To Tie them together in what is a very desperate survival situation. Like we actually get one point even a conversation between the two of them about how it's okay. If you WANNA, leave, I understand, anybody would leaving the situation and go and save themselves. So because they really. Have, never met each other before. They decide to charter this plane together. There's much more of them having to learn with a this is the person I. Don't know and be this the person who's quite different from me and yet we're tied together in this situation where. If we don't. If, we don't stick together. At least one of us must definitely wouldn't survive, but the only way we're gonNA survive together is by learning to deal with all these things that sort of drive us crazy about the person. So they do. Well for the most part performance wise I think. Always character. Elba as his character I guess does well pretty much throughout the whole film. Kate character is a little. Even though I feel we get more out Kate's character. Elba's character is sort of a mystery for most of the film, whereas Kate again because of her character, just being very much emotional feeling, she just sort of tells things much more easily, and he's much more guarded and close to the best. But she near the end of the film her character is. Not emotionally hampered, but it's just sort of like not sure this is. The best thing we could have given you. Characterize as an actress. You kind of have to really work. To make this work to make this believable that this is what you would do. So, it's. There's apart again. I didn't like most of the ending of the variant. I'm like okay. And then you just ended like that part was actually interesting, even though I disliked you movie for the past ten or so minutes, but that part and then you end. Okay Fine Movie I. See how it is. So. Yeah, these were to. Survival films one based on a true story one based on a fictional book. Both Fortunately unfortunately, depending on how you look at it have love stories that dealing with I. Prefer. The mountains between us just because. I think those two actors are. Really Great Actors, whereas the two actors and Adrift Aren't Terrible, but they're not to that level yet but also because. There was at least a small period of time in the movie where I could hope for just to be this movie about survival and. Keeping, your humanity survival without having love story. I felt more drawn in at times with the mountain between us then with the draft, because also being story, you kind of can guess about the ending, and whether or not, that's you know. Going to be a good ending or not, although I was a bit surprised with some of the things that happen in Adrift So yeah. Decent film would lease. Conformance is pretty good mountain between us. Not as great film, but the performances are pretty good, so they kind of come out about equal in my estimation. And on that note, we're GONNA put today. Thank you for listening to the GMC movie podcast. You've been listening to the Golden State media concepts movie podcast part of the Golden state media concepts podcast network. 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Ep 43: Part 2 of 2: I Am So Proud of You

You're Welcome with Hilary Rushford

07:13 min | 1 year ago

Ep 43: Part 2 of 2: I Am So Proud of You

"You are amazing you think about where you were a year ago. Why you were so stressed about this time a year ago were so worried about? You didn't know how to do something or did know how you're going to get through through something and I know you aren't a hundred percent where you want to be today but I think back to three years ago you get everything you have today that you were just wishing for them. You prayed for this. You wished least your life had this. You wish you were doing this and now you have it or at least you have more of it. You were closer to it give. Thanks celebrate do a little dance. Give a big hug. Raise a glass wiegel around with glee while lying on your bed like Kate winslet in the holiday when she wakes up in Beverly Hills or Laura Linnea does in love. Actually when that guy she's loved for forever is actually in her apartment and has kissed her or is going to kiss her. Get giddy. Look so you have you wanted for so many years and honestly just today. We'll get what you did. I know you didn't do it all not everything. Looks the way you want it to look. You still have a lot that you are hoping and praying for you. You could have made better use of every moment you could have crammed a few more things in replied a bit more perfectly but look at what you did. Did you did great work. You checked that thing off your list you sent us we text or gave hug or a smile mile. You help someone you tried. You put yourself out there. You did a task that you don't love doing. You did something that made you a little nervous or feel a little intimidated. You GotTa step closer to your goal. It doesn't matter what the date is on the calendar. I know you thought by this date. You would have finished that thing. You would have that thing you would be that thing by this time of year or this age or convince many years in life just takes longer at than we think much of the time. It's not because you haven't worked Hard enough or tried hard enough aren't good enough. Don't care enough. I know you think other people are further ahead less of a hot mess. You think it's easier for them. You think think they're more productive successful emotionally healthy physically healthy financially secure. But they're not. They're beating themselves up to their disappointed in themselves in their life. Isn't that heartbreaking and think of how proud you are of that got friend who went through a massive change range has raised a little human took a risk is more competent or peaceful survived heartbreak. Something new why are you proud of them. Can you see that. They're too hard on themselves and yet you're even more hard on yourself. Be Gracious with yourself. Notice all all the teeny tiny things you've done. They add up. be patient be willing to be on the longer more scenic route but you are not treading water. You're growing you're doing it. You're on the right path. You are getting just a little better a little closer. Just one percent every day. And you're going to look back in three years mm-hmm and see that all of this was unfolding in the right time and you're going to be so proud of yourself then for a surviving for growing for doing hard things for what you made happen you for who you became so be proud of yourself for that today because the things you want will happen in three a years just like today. You have blessings. You were only hoping and praying for three years ago but don't wait don't delay. Oh lay your joy don't withhold love from yourself until you're better more worthy more worth it. Be Proud out of who you are today. What you've done just today? I am so proud of you. Can you say that to yourself. The sentence I am so proud of you because I am I am so proud of you and and so is God or whoever created you. So is your mom or your dad. Or whoever loves you dearly. And as your friend your fellow sojourner in life I see you and I am so proud of you. Life has not been easy to you. You've had some really really hard things happen and yet get your joyful hopeful passionate kind. You're creative. You're a problem solver. You make others feel good. It's really remarkable who you are and I'm I'm so proud of you. Be Proud of yourself because you're doing amazing and people are better because of who you are.

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Wednesday, Dec. 2: Kate Winslet

The View

38:58 min | 2 months ago

Wednesday, Dec. 2: Kate Winslet

"Subscribe to our podcast to get hot topics delivered every afternoon. And while you're at it rate us in labor review brand new us darts alive right now. Silence on violence as attorney. General barr says. There's no evidence to back up. Baseless voter fraud claims president. Trump's own lawyer attacks the cybersecurity chief who called it the most secure election in us history guy to the class a moron. He should be drawn and quartered taken out a long shot and with election. Officials receiving chilling death threats. Does the president need to speak out against violence now before tragedy strikes. It has to stop some of them. Get killed an oscar winner. Kate winslet's on her salute to pioneering women in her new movie. Amanite and how taking another deep dive with titanic director. James cameron helped her break record previously held by tom. Cruise plus sara discovered a whole new way to make family connections this holiday that you can do to and you won't believe what she found. Here come hot topics with would be. Sarah haynes she behar sunny hostile and meghan mccain. Now let's get things started. Hello and welcome to the view you know yesterday. Attorney general william bar told the associated press. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud and in an election that former cybersecurity chief. Chris krebs calls the most secure election in. Us history. But you know who's own lawyer sent. Crabs should be drawn and quartered in shot and after election officials have been getting death. Threats georgia voting systems manager. Gabriel sterling set. Enough is enough. Watch joe digenova today asked for chris crabs as patriot who ran cisa to be shut. A twenty something tech county today has death threats and a noose put out saying it should be hung for treason because he was transferring. A report on batches from an ems to account a computer so he could read it. Mr president you've not condemned these actions or this language senators. You've not condemned this language or these actions this past to stop. We need you to step up. And if you're taking a position of leadership show some. I mean does you. I mean you know having your spokespeople come out to say. This isn't going to cut it. You need to speak up man this. You started this. I mean my crazy. Does he need to step up and condemn these this kind of behavior study. Of course he does. But you know i think just. As as president obama observed trump has failed to grow into this office into the rigor of the office. Until into the dignity of this office. He is not a person that is willing to unite the country and tamp down the rhetoric and the violence. In fact what be what he did was instead of Doubled down on his allegations of election fraud and he re tweeted that speech that we just showed and he wrote rigged election show signatures and envelopes massive voter fraud in georgia. That is the very opposite of being presidential and uniting the country. He's just being as divisive as he has ever been. He should take note and everyone should take note. The criminal threats are actionable. They are action. It is criminal you have the former cybersecurity advisor and chief being threatened by another lawyer by a trump representative. That is something that i i believe. The authority should be taking very seriously. And i think the fbi should be investigating and it's coming straight from the top. Because if that's his lawyer he's given them permission to speak for him. I mean joy. The you think he's going to speak up anytime soon. Trump showing around trump now. Yeah of course not first of all. Let's stop forget that he's the one who said maybe the second amendment do something about hillary clinton and remember that so that that That he he believes in violence apparently for his his people who are against him. But you know the other thing is not to sound like a broken record but this has been very lucrative for him to keep saying that he won. He keeps shaking down his supporters to the tune of one hundred and seventy million dollars that he is now collecting. It's fascinating to lose is to gain all of this money for him. I don't think he would have made as much money if he stays in office. He has convinced these people that he has one and they keep sending him these small donations. I feel bad for these people. I mean and let me just say something. These contributions are to his pack his leadership pac which means that the money can be used for anything from membership at golf clubs travel rallies even payments to himself cheeseburgers. New wife. anything he wants to buy he can buy one hundred and seventy million you guys out. There stopped sending him money. Stop it it's ridiculous. And that is the reason and the dissolution the fact that the man is lacking in empathy. I mean there's that always there which is what pascal. Brad cascal said. The reason he lost the the whole thing. The election is because his lacking empathy. He couldn't care less about the people who were out there getting corona virus and he never said a word about that and like put your masks on socially distant and give some leadership to these people now the opposite so yeah empathy as money. That's the name of donald trump. Okay call sarah your your thought process over seeing his lawyer threaten pretty much and keeping in mind that he's threatening people who worked for him. Does this make any sense to you. We just a couple of weeks ago. Steve bannon calling for a beheading of of a few people so this language in rhetoric rhetoric is so dangerous and scary in the highest levels of office. And i think that the politics is dry driving these attacks. The rhetoric is driving these attacks. And there's no longer politicians reigning it in there was a time where we can all remember senator mccain megan's dad who during a rally or a town hall called out a woman attacked president obama and said he's a he's an arab he's something and he said okay hold on he is a good man we disagree and i remember president obama doing the same thing about mccain during that same election time and i thought there was a time where there were grownups in the room that said some of these just fall outside the bounds of the game. And we're not seeing any of that from governor whitmer to dr fao. She has to have security guards. He's just doing science in his job. There's you know like it's a it's a disgusting reality. And the fact that there's not a loud messaging coming out to condemn that immediately and succinctly in just yes disturbing him. Yeah yeah and it should be from him in front of a camera saying we don't do that but you know what's crazy is. It appears that every time. Someone says something he doesn't like they're fake they're this. He's doing this to people in his own party. Who have no reason to help democrats win. They're doing their job and yet he's this and this. This is now a whole new place in my mind that he's taken us because if any of us had said anything like that about him you know people have been all over us it would be all said something nasty burst of people doing member. What happened to kathy griffin. Remember what happened to kathy. Griffin practically career because declare. We say whatever they want. We said since the election is not for a party. He's for people who are for him so it doesn't matter where you fall on the spectrum if you support trump. He's for you if you don't whether you're in the gop or he will cut you off and literally tell other people to do the same now sunny. You have a legal. Please feel free. Sure representatives for georgia senators kelly laughlin and david purdue said they condemned violence of any kind but also said they would not apologize for seeking accountability and accuracy in the states elections. I don't think anybody asked for that. I think people are saying to you. You need to step up not through somebody but in front of a camera saying this behavior is not okay because this is what you all stand for in georgia if this is what you want people to vote you in four. I think you're making a mistake. I don't think people like this kind of talk or this kind of behavior. Maybe i'm crazy. It's quite possible. We're going to go to break in here. Still ahead mixed messages. Former president obama tells moderate democrats leaning to start listening to the next generation of leaders like congresswoman. Aoc promoting young. People is really important. We stick so long with the same old folks and don't make room for new voices but that progressives need to pull back on slogans like defunding the police. You've lost a big audience. The minute you say but will either side take his advice. She's the president's office. Fokin needs so what mary trump saying now about her uncle losing the election. And what does she think is his next move. Find out tomorrow when she brings her view to the number one. Daytime talk show the view on. Abc still held oscar winner. Teat winslow talks about the past movie role that prepared her for the pandemic and cesaro finding out how connecting with family. This holiday can be absolutely his story. It welcome back former. President obama has been commenting on the current state of politics in recent interviews and he's wanting progressive democrats to be careful how they pitch their platforms. Take a look if you believe as as i do that we should be able to reform the criminal justice system so that it's not biased and treat everybody fairly. I guess you can use a snappy slogan like defunding police but you know you've lost a big audience the minute you say it which makes it a lot less likely that you're actually going to get the changes you want done right. So does he have a point here. Sunny always loathe to criticize president obama. Because i'm such a fan. But i do think he's wrong here when you think about defunding police. That's not a term. That was crowd source are tested in focus groups. You know that's a term that was born rallying cry it was born out of this over policing a black and brown communities borne out of the frustration of seeing black and brown men and women killed in the streets by police officers and defunding. The police does not mean for the two hundred time. i've explained it does not mean eliminating police departments. It doesn't mean stripping agencies for all of their money. It's reimagining policing in this country to address systemic racism we fund school programs all the time and they call it defunding school programs yet. No one seems to have a problem with that but people all of a sudden have a problem with defunding the police that term. I don't think you should allow people to co op. The movement and tell protesters what language they should use. I think president obama was a community organizer. And i really think that he knows better. I spoke to my good friend. Alicia garza you guys have met her and she co founded. The black lives matter movement. She told me when they first came up with the black lives matter movement. People told her that they should call it. The all lives matter movement now. I think that that would have been a mistake now. You know because that was one of protesters in the streets but what. He's trying to say that people hold on hold on a second. I think what he's saying is how people perceived that message and how it was carried through is the problem. That's i think what he's saying. Be aware of how you presenting yourself because people do grab it and run. It's you know we saw it in miami. We saw it all over florida. How people took that message didn't matter how many times you said that's not what it means. People took that because the right kind of grabbed it and turned it into something else. Go ahead joy. I'm sorry well. I think that sunny gay came up with a better slogan reimagined the police. That's a good slogan. It's it's more accurate. The defunding police is not an accurate statement. It has to be more like. Here's an accurate statement. Give me liberty or give me death. Go and i dated patrick henry so i happened to know. That's a good one but the thing is it's like the pro choice also and pro-life those things don't work either. It should be pro woman. They need to get a slogan that does not make people nuts and d from the police scared. that's would trade. And that's why so many democrats that's what he's saying so not working. That's what i disagree obama's say disagree. I know you had sarah when i came back. I didn't know how much time we had to go. Because i actually. I do agree with president obama. That win there's any confusion. I understand what sonny's is saying that there's an anger. There's a rage that you can hear that an with where you're going but not how you get there and i think what president obama said Resonated with me. Because i think that if there's any confusion how do you speak across to more people. You know your friend. lisa. Garza said it's all about math. It's getting more people not just your community to understand it and in order to do that. You gotta make sure you don't lose some of those people in the messaging as president obama said so. I really appreciate quote but you also need to do this to you. But they're people but we have to go. This is a conversation we have to cut short. I'm sorry we'll be back. Welcome back we were talking about really messaging and how it's perceived things like defunding the police and such so sarah you about to say something. Yeah well the quote that jumped out at me in that interview. That president obama did was this. It says and if you want to get something done in a democracy in a country as big into verses ours you've got to be able to meet people where they are and play a game of addition and not subtraction. And i think that's what jumps out at me because sunny. I i understand you talked about not defining a movement. I i recognize. I'm not part of this active conversation but from the outside if you look at it as trying to gain people that don't understand it or don't get it win the term confuses people i knew said. Well we're the why are you. Can i think you're not part of this. This conversation should be a part of this conversation. Because i know that you're against the over policing and black and brown communities as well sunny. I appreciate that the problem is when i jumped into this conversation before. I've been excused because of the hugh of my skin. I voice had one critique. On this i agree with the endgame what i was saying that there are some ideological reasons. Why selling a movement with a slogan is possibly confusing. I know that particularly hoban or not obama. Sorry james clyburn had spoken with Representative john lewis who they were talking about civil rights movement and they talked about how burn baby burn. Didn't land the way it should have that it was misconstrued. People got confused. And i think when there's any returns sorry. The the term abolishing slavery had wasn't received well the term civil rights of that term also wasn't received well again our political these are rallying cries and if their policy my my confusion than is i believe in the movement of this i believe in removing the no knock warrants. I believe in criminal justice reform. I agree with letting people out to have low level drug crimes. I agree with reallocated. Defunding the police. But but the reason i'm saying this is my understanding. Originally when de-fund the police came out. There were people that eliminating the police. The second understanding i had was bringing on mental health experts vin when alicia garza was here. Am i saying her name right. She explained to me that it's about taking it out of the police departments completely and giving it to the school. So i myself in read in and care and i got a little confused on the topic and that's the reason i bring it up with the endgame. Donald doesn't should change saturday. Listen grant obama is very. Here's what you call a pragmatic politician. He is trying to get the thing done. His everything that sarah just said is true. We're all in the same camp. The question is how do now communicate it to people who just hear a slogan and who do not read between the lines when you say to people black lives matter. I have a cousin who said well doesn't and she's liberal. Don't all white lie. All lives matter and i said look if one house is burning on the street the other houses matter. But we're concentrating on the burning house right now and it's a similar idea you cannot we also care how to explain it but we're concentrating but you'll have to explain. Now you're going. You have to make that clear what you have to say you head to explain. Black lives matter. Why change the slogan if you need to for people because they don't understand it because you know you need to explain it again this. This term is a policy demand. It is a demand for change. And i do not i always will think it is a mistake to allow poets. Same language to sign narratives. Black lives matter is true to say de-fund the police is not completely true. They are not going to begin his trip to we. Allocate it's different lives lives. Matter is a true story is a true fact defunding. The police is vague. That's my argument. And i think that you have to be clearer. What i don't think it's vague at all. I think the police means exactly what they're saying. It means take some of the funds and reallocate them doesn't it's not completely but fund the police. It's not abolish. Its defunding police. And if people care about it they look into it like you have and and explain and explain it to those. The can't but the mistake is allowing the right to change the narrative. If we were the only ones telling the story you would be absolutely right. If we were the only time star. Unfortunately that's not how it works so someone gets something that says defined the police and the narrative then becomes they want to get rid of the police departments and then someone runs with that. It turns into something that it isn't and you are stuck explaining explaining and lots of people lost because of that because people took it out of context and didn't explain what it meant and so a lot of people lost because the other side said. Let me take this and and run with that. You know that means you know what it means when they say that. So that's i think that's what the discussion is to try to figure out a better way to explain it to people i think. That's what the discussions but guys we gotta go. Sorry we have to go. We'll be right back with pretty much next oscar winner. Kate winslet on how she wants. Latest movie amanite to help redefine onscreen romance. And why re teaming. With titanic director. James cameron for the upcoming avatar sequel left her breathless. 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The view get started today at better. H e l p dot com slash view talked to therapist online. And get help. Twenty twenty as reshaped. How we work. Businesses across the globe are challenge to be the most efficient which means every hires critical in deeds. New way of matching instantly delivers a shortlist of quality candidates. Whose resumes on indeed match. Your job Criteria that you can contact the moment you sponsor a job making indeed the only job site that can move as fast as you do go to indeed dot com slash view for a free seventy five dollars. Credit offer valid through december. Thirty first terms and conditions apply. Welcome back oscar winner. Kate winslet pays pioneering woman left out of many history books the new movie night. She forged her own path and both science and romance at a time. When it just wasn't accepted as my girl. Please welcome to fabulous kate. Winslet's hella thank you so much for having me. Welcome well before we get to your new movie. Which by the way is so incredible. I have to ask about your twenty eleven film contagion because it's become one of the most downloaded films during this pandemic. i myself also watched it and scared myself but you actually warned your friends not to watch it because it would scare them looking back. What do what did that feel. get right about what. We're all living through right now. I mean the importance of washing hands the importance of wearing a mosque when they say to wear a mask. early on not something that the uk Put in place and And definitely i think help to kind of at least unify that everyone was fighting this thing together but yet contagion. I can't even watch it again myself. It was it was scary to shoot and most definitely is is scary to watch absolutely. Well how did it prepare you personally. For the pandemic. I heard you started wearing masks really early on before. Everyone else definitely prepared me. Because i was able to meet people who worked at cdc in who were incredibly helpful when we were making contagion. So i had at least a little bit of insight. Very limited admittedly. I'm no scientist. But had a little bit of insight into how quickly viruses like the warmer experiencing now can spread and made me a lot more wary and Yeah it definitely was because of having been a part about bill that Yeah i was on high alert. I think from quite early on well. You know kate. You're terrific at your new movie which is called amanite which you play mary. Ending a real life paleontologist and eighteen hundred and forty in england. Who wasn't really given the credit. She deserves a groundbreaking work. A big surprise right which was often by mail scientists. At the time hello now. You've you've said that it's important to you to uncover these types of stories Want people to know about this particular character. well marianna was a self taught. Woman of scientific brilliant very working class never harsh life filled with struggle and she made pioneering discoveries. you discover the first six. Oh when she was eleven years old and actually later on in eighteen twenty three discovered the first what became known as the pterodactyl But it was. She was the unsung hero of the world of fossil discovery. Because she was a woman. You say the world of science back then and geology was dominated by men men who would buy her fines and claim them as their own their own name on them So yeah rich. Powerful men taking away her Her and i'm bringing historian little bit to light in our own way was an enormous privilege. He was a formidable stoic. Remarkable lady and this love story. It's a female love story myself. And sasha ronin lay mary haning charlotte matches in and it was a real privilege to be a positive in this film. Mary has a passionate love affair with a young married woman. Played by as you just mentioned searcher ronin who comes under her care now. There are some sex scenes. Which youtube choreographed yourselves. How did that experience compared to the ones you've filmed in the past it was it was really important to search an eye as the two people playing these characters and allowing the story to be told in natural and I think equal as possible. It was important to us that we were the ones making those decisions and at the end of the day with both women and women know what women want right and so So so we felt. We felt really empowered to To just create those scenes together and and speak to the sincerity of the love. These two characters half for one another and to approach it without hesitation and without fear until after one another to be in each other's corner and And to make it as equal as we possibly could and it genuinely felt that way you also said you found the lack of vanity in the film to be refreshing and i love that you said that from the severe clothing and hairstyle to the nudity and that you were excited to actually have the opportunity to show your real self. Can you explain that yes. Yeah that's true. I mean you know. All definition of beauty. I think definitely changes as we get older. And as we have children and Things that are important in life become really crystallized down and something. That isn't important to me anymore. Actually is my my physical self. I just. I'm who i am. This is not the body. I had when i was twenty. I'm forty five. Now as i said i've had three kids and And i think it's just important. I would hope as a message to other women to just absolutely be who you are at whatever age you are and and yeah i think the age difference between myself and sasha is twenty years and and i felt i felt really brave about about showing that showing my true self and not hiding behind any sort of movie star version of what it means to be forty five. Trust me i'm not the movie star version of forty five i'm twenty five with the stars and yeah. It was It was it was really refreshing. Experience suggests that to just be as true to myself. As i could playing this off because mary was burial exactly who she was and i felt i needed to on that too. So can't hold on. We're going to go take a break and then we're coming back. We have more questions for you. We'll be right back. welcome back. We're back with kate winslet joy. Well my cameras now working because now you can see where i am. Okay this is this is real and here. We husband just to come in and fix it. Because we have technical people coming into up here fixed it gene thank. He's he said to tell you he loves you as do i. I was telling you off camera. How much i appreciate your work. Especially in the wieder. Which by the way people can get on amazon prime. You should watch that movie testing. Let's talk about this movie because you re ignited with your titanic director. James cameron to shoot the upcoming avatar sequel. This is fascinating. You actually filmed a scene underwater where you held your breasts for over seven minutes seven minutes. Tom cruise his record was six minutes for mission impossible. So what's your secret. How'd you do that trading. It's not something. I could just jump into the boston. do right now. I have some bikes ordinary training with a brilliant brilliant of breath hold instructor named kirk crock and he got me to seven minutes fourteen. What can i say it was. It was a training session. We just went for and seven minutes fourteen. I know i'm very proud of that. Well if joy alan movie. I get to ask about my movie. So it's been twenty years. But titanic is still one of the most beloved movies of all time. But there's some controversy. And i know you've heard of this before the iconic final scene in the water where you say. I'll never let you go jack. Because you did let him go and he he drowned and it my question for you is not whether he could have gotten up or not gotten up. You didn't even try. Why did you not try. It was jack. I don't agree. I really agree and actually just the other day. A friend of mine said come on. We have to actually have this conversation. Let's break it down. You let that was a half hearted attempt to getting on the door. But not really. I totally agree. We should've tried harder. We should have fallen off a bunch of times before we completely just work harder on a unicorn shape in a pool. You did on that door. And that was the love of your life. i come the result not dole. I totally could have thought not big no and you got hypothermia filming that scene. Is that true actually. It wasn't that scene. It was another thing. But yes i lot. When you're running down the hallways right when you running down. The hallway is under to be perfectly honest. I think it was just doing scenes over and over again and having to stay in the water for prolonged periods of time i actually get it will being truthful but yeah quite a few of us got hypothermia from time to time. I'm glad you cleared that up for us. Better now thank you can see. She'll sleep better tonight. she'll sleep much better tonight. Kate because you were able to explain and so we want to thank you for coming. That was always a pleasure to see you. Tonight is in theaters now and on demand on friday and we of course. We'll be right back. Good to see kate. Winslet kissed the kids for me back back. What did sarah about her family history. That'll make the holidays a little sweeter this year. 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Best Of: Kate Winslet / Loudon Wainwright III & Vince Giordano

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Ending a nineteenth century self taught paleontologist known for her groundbreaking fossil discoveries. Mary lives in poverty with her. Elderly mother shut off from the world and emotionally withdrawn. She spent her days searching the shoreline for fossils to study. Draw and sell sometimes. She sells the fossils two men who claim them as their own discoveries. one day a gentleman comes to their fossil shop and brings along his young wife who suffering from depression. after miscarriage. He tells anne that he wants to observe her work and then explains that he's about to go on a paleontology expedition and would like her to watch his wife charlotte while he's gone hoping charlotte will be in good hands and benefit from shadowing mary anne. Marie reluctantly agrees only. Because he's willing to pay a total contrast to rough-hewn mary charlotte murchison is a delicate well-to-do lady. The women don't get along at first but over time. A friendship grows into an intense. Romantic relationship are film critic justin. Chang wrote that. Kate winslet makes mary a profound study. An alien nation and loneliness ill at ease with other people and deeply protective of her secrets. Let's start with a clip from the film. Charlotte has collapsed and his very ill with a fever and murray has grudgingly been nursing her back to health as charlotte recovers mary. Softens towards the young woman and they begin to trust and confide in each other. Sergio ronan plays charlotte speaks. I tied. I always look tired off to me like your child. You don't have any a lot of questions might have preferred it when you are unconscious. No children so my mother i ten. I remember six of them dying and two before me. Eight babies dead. Each one taking something other when i have my work. I didn't need children as well. Kate winslet welcome to fresh air. Let's start with a scene that we just heard and what it was like for you as a mother to think about a time and place so harsh that you can have eight children by playing marianna ing and having to carry an enormous amount of her personal history was was really something that i had to spend a good deal of time preparing for. We don't meet any of the siblings. Mary has of course just talked about because they all die. Such was the time in the working lower classes in the very late seventeenth eighteenth century and it was part of playing mary. That was fascinating to me. I'd never played someone that class before. Never that particular period in time. And and and i found myself coming to play this role shamefully fairly ignorant as to who marianna actually was and scientific significance in history. A woman of her claws was never going to be recognized for any of her very significant achievements and successes were her scientific accomplishments. What were her greatest contributions to the field of paleontology so marianne ing was completely self taught. She was an uneducated child. Mary learns how to find fossils. How to be a paleontologist. She learned it from her father. Who very sadly died. When mary was only eleven years old and mary was very close to her father She had a really warm significant wonderful strong relationship strong bond with him and and because of him she was eternally fascinated by fossil. By knowing how to identify what fossils were not any find ammonites but to find dinosaur bones. She discovered the first xia saw when she was eleven years old with her brother. Joseph and two of them it took them over a year to dig it out but she was a child when she found that she discovered what a pro. Lite was fossilized feces and so because of mary we were able to learn and what dinosaurs at so her role in that particular scientific field was really really significant and of course what happened to marry. Was that her. Fines were bought from her by rich. More powerful men who claimed them for their own and therefore took credit. She never took credit for anything. They actually put their name on her fines. Portray mary ending. Somebody who is emotionally shutdown. She later becomes awakened by this passionate affair with the character. Played by social ronin. But you know playing somebody who's emotionally shutdown. It seems to me you have to do less to do. More character just does not convey emotion. And she's she's very her. Life is all very interior. I think you play her almost as if she's on the autism spectrum. Did you think about that. I did think about that. But i had to be very careful with with making assumptions and i it. It certainly crossed my mind i. I decided to build mary based on the grief that i think she felt for her father who had passed whereas i said before and so i think she did develop then abandonment issues. That came into play a lot in terms of how mary functioned in society. I think she was not suspicious of people but just didn't know how to be just a relaxed member of community. I think she always felt different. I think she felt a little bit odd in comparison to other people and because she was She was living a life of such extreme poverty. I think she was frankly. Embarrassed about how she looked and what she had to offer to just a functioning small seaside community. Samaras a very for me anyway. I felt she was very emotionally complicated person who almost had emotional chips missing just developmental stages that she perhaps hadn't gone through in her life as a teenager through the loss of her father through the loss of so many siblings that just meant that emotionally and socially she was quite withdrawn and just different and as a consequence kept us off quite separate to other people and lived a fairly isolated and lonely life. Which is why charlotte bring so much joy into how world you answer. Ronin have some passionate and very uninhibited sex scenes together. And i read that you both choreographed those scenes rather than having somebody else do it and francis lee the writer and director of the film points out in the in the press notes that this was a time in the eighteen hundreds when the medical profession believed women had no sexual pleasure organs and that sexual orientation was categorized only for men. Did you think about that a lot while you were making the film about the lack of comprehension of women's sexuality at that time yes yes Yes we did. Think about the lack of comprehension for women's sexuality very much so because of course it's it's it's i think. Part of the reason why women in particular at that time seem to form such incredibly strong bonds because because women can share women can express women can emote and be honest with one another and one of the things. I i did in terms of researching marian preparing for the part. I read a lot of letters that were written between women who had romantic relationships women who were in marriages to men some of whom have children and those bonds those friendships became crucial to this sort of means of survival because women were pushed to one side. They weren't expected to speak their mind. They weren't expected to have emotions. Let alone sexual pleasure organs and an and discovering that women did have intimate romantic relationships that came out of these deep friendships as a means of survival with something that i did find very very helpful and one of the things i feel very very proud of when i when i talk about the film and and having seen it now because it always takes me a while to come around sitting down and watching something that i'm is waste. A nerve wracking experience but a part of our story is not to portray these two characters. They're in some way having a secret or forbidden love affair and i really appreciated that because it storytelling that normalizes and express same sex love without hesitation without secrecy or fear. My guess is kate winslet. She stars in the new movie. Emanate will more of our conversation after a break and we'll hear from singer and songwriter. Loudon wainwright and musician and bandleader vince. Giordano are new album. I'd rather lead a band. They play some great songs from the nineteen twenties and thirties. I'm terry gross. And this is fresh air weekend this message comes from. Npr sponsor capital one. Welcome to banking reimagined capital. One checking and savings accounts have no fees or minimums and a top rated banking app. That lets you manage your money anytime anywhere. Check on the account. Balance deposit checks pay bills and transfer money on the go. This is banking reimagined. What's in your wallet capital one. Na member fdic. Let's get back to my interview with kate winslet. She stars in the new film amanite. Her other films include heavenly creatures. Titanic sense and sensibility. Eternal sunshine of the spotless. Mind revolutionary road and the reader. You've talked about how when you were young. You were fat. And you've used the word fat to describe how you look and you said that when you were young in school it limited the kind of roles you can get You became known in movies for being. You know beautiful so wondering if you felt like pressured to look that way in order to have a career Look i think this huge pressure on on on women in in In the public eye and the film industry you know is is no exception to that. And i just want to live my life with complete integrity and sincerity and to always be myself and to always be able to look another young actor in the eye and just say look. People told me. I was not going to have a career because i was the wrong shape. I was too fat. I had to lose weight. And look i did it. I will be saying that to my grave and even when the stacked against you. I was called blubber. You know. I had kids locked in a cupboard. Say blood is blubbing in the cupboard. I was very badly bullied and teased at school. But somehow i had this in a determination and and would you know it was hard. It was horrible. i would go home. i would cry. I wouldn't want to go back to school the next day. But i knew that i wanted to be an actress monday and i just had to push it to one side. I had to push those horrible bullies in those feelings to one side and just hang onto my dream. I was even told an agent when i was much younger but i was only ever going to get the fat girl parts. Have you had to think a lot about like what is beauty i have had to. Yes think a lot about that. And i think when you're younger and you're a young woman. I think often people think beauty is about their face or about their body or about how many boyfriends they have or how many invites on dates. They get an of course. I've i i really genuinely. I genuinely did suffer. I am used that word suffer. I suffered a huge deal at the hands of. Actually the british press in terms of how i looked and just recently i had to just for just for some legal things. I had to go through some old newspaper articles from years ago from nine hundred ninety. Eight till two thousand and seven two thousand and eight and i was so distressed to read. How unbelievably brutal and crew the press. Were they would even talk about estimate what i weighed looking looking a weighty one hundred and forty pounds first of all i didn't know one hundred and forty pounds even waiting so but reading the things that they said. I was so staggered that i had somehow. How would i. How had i coped. When i was subjected to such really truly unkind painful public ridiculing for how d- so definitely the question of what is beautiful. Had to come into play for me. Because i had to work hard to ignore this proper Cruelty that i was subjected to you started you movie career in nineteen ninety four when you were seventeen and made the film heavenly creatures a lot has changed in the movie industry since then including you know a lot of change for women. There are more directors and screenwriters. And i think it's fair to say more good roles for women than there were in in the ninety s although you know heavenly creatures was a great film and a great role but i'm wondering if there are things in terms of how men in the industry would treat you or what they would say to you onset or off You thought well that's just the way it is. You know i'll just kind of you know. Take it and move on just like ignore it and move on that you would feel differently about now that you would say something. Yeah things have changed. Things have changed. Need to change more. But i think continuing to at least go in the right direction to the point that i don't think we'll ever go back to the way that it was Yeah i mean without going into specifics of stories You know yeah. I would go into an audition room as a young person and would just learn to accept that if the male director felt like reading in the lines of the male actor role in particular scene and would get a little bit too close for comfort. Well you just knew that. That was just the way that it was. But it's not that way now. It is not that way now at all and i certainly do feel much safer and i feel much more looked out for now because there are ways in which people are just not allowed to behave anymore you told a story to vanity fair about how i think it's for the hbo oeser is that you. You've just finished shooting there for one scene. A young actress in the movie had to do you it. The scene was going to be shot in the car and it was a love scene. A lesbian love scene new state in the trunk of the car. Just to be there for her and make sure that that she was like respected and treated well During the shooting of that scene. Can you talk about that a little bit and also do they know you're in the trunk of the car. Yeah so it was. It was a it was a night shoot and there was a scene between two. Lgbtq characters in a story and one of the characters was played by an australian actress named. I'm gary rice who's eighteen at the time was eighteen which was is the same age as my daughter and i could just sense that she was. I could sense that she was nervous and i was worried that she have. I don't know just someone there in her corner. I wanted her to feel supported. And i also wanted her to know that she could use me as a filter if she didn't feel confident enough to turn to the director and the writer and say actually. I'm not sure about this or would it be okay if i did this instead. And i'm so i said to listen all i would like to stay and just be here for you just in case you need anything at all. There were two camera operators in the car with them lovely dignified respectful people who've been in the industry for years but still they were two men and it was going to be the two of them filming these two young women. That didn't sit right with me. And so i said to both these goals stating kashi jump in the trunk and they were like oh can you. Could you fit. It would just be lovely to have someone there. That's what i did i just. I sat in the trunk. And i was there for them in between takes everyone. Okay anyone needs water. Dini me to pass anything along. And then i'd get out of the trunk. And i would go and pass something along to the director and grab some water. And then i'd get in the trunk and on the water and then we would shoot again and it just seemed to work in that particular moment for those actors to have that level of support. My felt very honored that they wanted me to be there and that it was genuinely helpful to them and you know the most important part for me was that they both knew that. Actually speaking your mind and being able to say. I'm okay with this and i'm not okay with that trying to give them the tools with which to do that for themselves. That was very important to be able to pass that along. Do you wish you had somebody like that when you were seventeen and heavenly creatures. Yes yes i do. What did you need help with them. I think first of all just the the confronting nature of being half naked in front of a crew of people. You barely know actually now what happens more often than not on films is we have something could intimacy coaches and so. That's that's where. I do wish. I had had that person in my corner when i had been seventeen years old gates. Thank you so much for talking with us. It's been a pleasure. Thank you likewise. Thank you very much for having me. Kate winslet stars in the new film. Amanite it's now streaming on premium video on demand including apple itunes. It's also playing in select theaters the past few months. I haven't been able to listen to as much music as i'd like because so much of my listening time has been devoted to shows podcasts about politics the election and kovic but when i do listen to music really good music i feel especially vulnerable to the mood whether it's joy or sadness and that's how i felt when i listened to the new album by loudon wainwright and vinced your donohoe of songs from the nineteen twenties and thirties. It's the period yordano typically draws for him with the eleven piece band. He leads the nighthawks during normal times. The band attracts devoted followers. Come to listen and dance. He plays tuba bass and bass saxophone. But this is not the music you'd associate with loudon wainwright whose best known for writing and performing his own songs which range from confessional songs about family dysfunction to satirical songs about politics and other issues his children include singer songwriters rufus and martha wainwright and lucy wainwright roach. And they sometimes write songs about family to loudon wainwright convinced. Your donald previously worked together on the hbo series boardwalk empire which was set during prohibition and was about gangsters who made bootleg liquor and who served it in nightclubs in atlantic city. Gio donohoe and his band performed a lot of the music for the show. Loudon wainwright sang a couple of the songs the title track of their new album. I'd rather lead a ban is a song from the fred astaire. Ginger rogers movie follow the fleet. The album also features songs by rodgers. And hart fats waller. Harold arlen frank lesser and others. Vince you're donna and loudon wainwright or joining us from the hobo sound studio in new jersey. Where they're socially distanced in separate rooms. They brought their instruments and are going to perform some songs for us. But let's start with a track from the album. That may help writing your mood. If you're feeling down it's called so the bluebirds and the blackbirds got together. Dos stab doorstep looking to blackbirds looking never solved blackbirds. Never saw birds doing things back. Words can overheard those burdens to just one way. I the blue bird. Said you gotta have sunny. The blue birds and the black birds got to than the blackbird says a different bluebirds and the blackbirds got to talked it over. Blackbirds bring rain at all. The blue birds not agree to brainless jonah again have rain or sunshine the last four eh blue birds and blackbirds got to those loudon wainwright vince. Giordano welcome both of you back to fresh air. I love this album. There's so much joy in that recording that just heard. I know the song from the rhythm boys and paul whiteman which had the original recording. I think unlike nineteen twenty nine. How did you choose it for the album. One of the songs we did on boardwalk empire was something that bing crosby had done. And it's it's tough when you go up against arguably the greatest male jazz vocalist of all times but for some reason. I don't know why vince. We decided to take a crack at it. Wow it's it's just a fun uplifting song and it's not one of those songs that everyone has done. No one has done this since The rhythm boys did it back in the late twenties early thirties. No one not that. I not that i know of If anyone would know you would know. I'm sure that definitely vince. You play this kind of music. All the time but loud and i don't associate music from the twenties and thirties with you unless it's kind of You know like folk country music. Charlie poole project. So where does this music fit in your musical life. My dad had a great record collection. Was eclectic ahead folk music and jazz a lot of broadway musicals. But i grew up listening to that that stuff and a lot of the songs that that wound up on this record. You know you rascal you more. I cannot wish shoe i got them directly from from hearing them as an eight year old in westchester. Listening to my dad's spin these these vinyl records. So we asked you if you would be willing to perform a couple of songs for us so you each brought your instruments and you're in a recording studio right now so Would you play. Ain't misbehavin for us and vince. I think you'll be playing tuba and loudon. You actually brought a guitarist with you. David mansfield so he'll be featured on guitar So do you want to say anything about why you chose ain't misbehavin. Well i mean so. Many people love the song. Fats waller was course Great entertainer and his songs. It's it's a great little vehicle and people really relate to it you know. And they're settling down with one person. That said i made ain't misbehavin. We're gonna i'm just gonna hang with you dear and of course it was revived in stormy weather. I don't know it's just just beautiful. Turn to to play and sing. And let's give credit to the lyricist. Andy raza and also say that you know one of the things like about this on hearing it now is that it's really about being alone. You know 'cause your lover is away but we're we're so much we're spending so much time alone or relatively alone right now. Even if we're alone with others not a lot of socializing for a lot of us. So why don't you ain't misbehavin for us. This song is on the album. But this is vince giordano and loudon a live for us with a guitar. Assist by david mansfield too edged with flooding. All the here is one bird was cell. Phone troll happy inside. I k- i know who i love thumbs down for. All my love was given so so it can talk all by myself. No one on the show misbehave. I'm saving my love for you. Know for certain. The one i love. I'm through with flirty just up thinking misbehaving saving mild lite jack. Horner don't go nowhere. I don't stay out late. don't care. I'm home about age. I find radio save at high school jack. Horner and uncall- again. Joe believe me stay. Go radio behaving shaven. Loudon wainwright singing and vince. Giordano on tuba with david mansfield on guitar. Playing eight misbehaving. That song is also on their new album. I'd rather lead a band which features giordano's banned the nighthawks. We'll be back with more music and conversation after a break. This is fresh air weekend. This message comes from. Npr sponsor. netflix with the more like this podcast. Host and journalist krista smith gives you an insider's peek into the stories behind the creation of your favourite films series and documentaries on netflix. Each episode looks at several new. 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That reflect is complicated feelings about love and family so you were generous enough to actually go to a studio where. You're socially distanced in separate rooms so that you could do a couple of songs for us that you also do on the album. So i'm going to ask you to do that. I never heard before that. I really liked called how i love you. And there a story behind the song I don't i think probably vince knows mean. Vince knows about all these songs. I don't know why why we. Why did we choose us one vince. Well i i had sent you a couple of links of great entertainer and ukulele player named cliff edwards and clifford was was known for introducing lady be good and singing in the rain and of course his big hit was when you wish upon a star from pinocchio but he was a great entertainer. And you player. And they're just so much fun and that recording. And i think loud new you capture that that fun you captured the fun so it can be playing ukulele on this and vince on tuba So you wanna give it a go. I sure get the chance to do it. All right Through fields of golden flowers where we spent sunny. I'm strolling along thinking. Toll told the four leaf clover milo. Some days are over. Talk about you all the this ride. I'm telling the birds the bees telling the flowers telling the truth talent each one to feel so happy. Abby show i want the whole wide world own book shadows that fall telling them all dude allow other. Loan daydream all over town. I love you. Just bob flat. I'm turnage show. Show them all wonderful wainwright singing and playing ukulele convinced. Your donohoe Flying tuba and they just did that for us. They have an album of songs from the nineteen twenties and thirties as called. I'd rather lead a banned. That song is on the abu. You just heard was they just did just for us and i love that scott chorus which is not not something you do on the album. Oh no it's the kind of a stretch from the family dysfunctional material. That i am so well known for its very optimistic and up which is a love that aspect of it so you play ukulele on that. I think the ukulele is an instrument. That's often kind of mocked. what what do you really like about the instrument. Well unlike the tuba. It's very light and portable. It's got a great look to it and it's it is light and two strings less than a guitar got four strings on it and events mentioned cliff edwards who was also known as ukulele. Great great great ukulele player. And i'm just a fan of the instrument you actually do another song. that ukelele ike originated. And it's called. I'm gonna give it to mary with love. And this is a song this this is. This is a song I'm trying to think it's it's a double entente song you know because it's like i'm going to give it to mary with love and the it is How do we put it. There's also a line i'm gonna. She's going to hold it in her little hands. So maybe that'll give you a sense of perry. You're you're getting kind of lewd getting kind of lewd. I used to play this on my show. When i had a radio show in buffalo on the college station because it was so amusing to me that the guy who did the voice on pinocchio and who was famous for singing when you wish upon a star was singing this incredibly lute song so it comes from it comes from a party record and there's no composer but on the record it's the record was The company was called the hollywood hot shots and that was it and cliff. Edwards went in and out of good times and i think at this point in his life for thirty five thirty six he probably needed some money so unity party record. Fine you know. And and that's what happened right and for people who know the expression party records are lewd records. Yes with a lot of double entendre. The old ones had a lot of noble lonzo under the counter. Is that what you said. Yeah i think they were sold kind of on the sly interesting that he did that because he was down on his luck. I had. I had no idea about that vince. Didn't he die destitute. And yeah he. Then we're gonna put them in a pauper's grave and people walt disney's Liked him very much and and the company and they Put a an actual tombstone for him but He really pushed the envelope in in many different ways. And and you could never tell it from his singing or playing but He was a wild ban. Some of the songs on here. I mean these are sounds from the nineteen twenties and thirties and so a lot of the songs are like from the depression era. And there's a good deal of songs from that era that are all about you. Know the simple pleasures of life. Because that's all people have. They didn't have money And you do one of their songs on the new album. The little things in life and it's also a song about you know forming a family and having a baby and how like perfect that is so it's an interesting song for you to sing loud and because you're sounds your original songs are about how imperfect families are and how how difficult fatherhood is. So what was the single is singing. The song is so out of character for you. Yeah this is a functional family song as opposed to a dysfunctional families. It's very it's very idealistic. But and i think i think i think bing crosby might have had a big hit with us when we took a shot and did it i. It's just a great lovely little song. that's positive so and This material was in the depression. People needed to be lifted. And i think as we were making this record Randy and vincent stuart. And i you know or were getting the feeling that that it might be a good thing for now because because it is optimistic and hopeful and but we'll see what happens as also about the basics. Which many people still have you know. So it's about finding pleasure in the little things in life. So let's let's let's hear advances or anything you want to say about it before we play it. Well you know it's It's what i call. One of urban berlin offers because not too many people know about it. It's not from a show or film it. It just the pop song that he penned of the many thousands that he wrote and it was nice to get an irving berlin song. That that's not overplayed and loudon does a great job with it. So this is the little things in life and early. Irving berlin saw nineteen thirty. Okay pretty early. It's from the loudon. Wainwright vince giordano album. I'd rather leader bam just little room all to more than do why that's if they're content with that all things in life living on a larger scale into a lot of care stri. We could be so happy with little things in life a little rain little son little work a little fun time for loving gwen done and little thing. That cries could make a tell the world how much they little things in life. So that's a lovely song from the new album. I'd rather lead a band featuring loudon wainwright and vince. John and his band the nighthawks. Well i want to end with one more song. And i want to ask you to perform it for us. It's a song by frank lesser code. More i cannot wish you. That's from one of my favorite shows guys and dolls and it was hardly my favorite song from the show. But i really love the way you do it. I it just feels very very meaningful to me. Can you talk about why you chose this. And what the song means to you. Well this goes back to the thing we were talking about earlier. I was mentioning. My father served record collection. Guys and dolls was in the collection. And i listened to it as a kid and interestingly enough. At least it's interesting to me. Is that when. I started my career in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine. A guy called hilton. Kramer saw me playing a little folk club. In greenwich village called the gaslight and he invited me up to talk to about a publishing deal and he was working for frank music. Which was frank lesser publishing company. So all the songs that are were on my first couple of albums were published by that company. I never got to meet frank lesser. At that point he was sick. Dying of lung cancer in the hospital but frank lesser was one of the greats. And you know he wrote the music and the words so you know he. He did it all and he wrote so many different kinds of shows. I mean there's guys and dolls that's all kind of you know Streetwise talk and then he wrote Basically an operetta will write most happy like opera. The most happy fella. Yeah which is so different no melodic and and they're actually so So i'm gonna ask you to close by playing the frank lesser song more. I cannot wish you from guys and dolls and the song is on the album with this is a performance in the studio that they are doing just for us and we'll hear loudon on vocals and he brought david mansfield to play guitar on this. And we'll hear vince. Giordano not onto this time but on base. Thank you both so much for your generosity in doing this for us and playing for us and going to the studio. Socially distanced in separate rooms and for being here to talk with us. And thank you for the wonderful album or facts. Great talking to you terry. Thanks so keep up the great work terry. One two three I can wish you the coat. Fortune smiling all long view would but more. I cannot wish to wish. You'll find your your shoe this seven-foot in red and calling cards silver. But more i cannot wish you to wish you find your love food Standing there chew full of the bloom ending. good thing. it's with the she a liquorice music. I wish you a merry music. When you're young when your hair is turned but more. I cannot wish thome leash find your own true love this day. This she The liquorice and the straw to calving you. So that was loudon. wainwright convinced. Yordano performing in the hobo sound studio and we have in new jersey. We thank the engineer. Their james phrase easy for his really great work and also thanks to stewart. Lerman one of the producers of vincent loudon album who was also there for the session to help produce that. Thank you all so much. Thanks terry. Fresh air weekend is produced by two recent madden. Fresh air's executive producer is danny miller a technical director as audrey. Bentham our engineer. Today charlie kyler our interviews and reviews. It produced an edited by any salad. 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The Holiday with Fran Hoepfner

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The Holiday with Fran Hoepfner

"Right. Bed and. Jonah what to? Volume. Is that will show? Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to podcast you twice and then linger a longtime on the second podcast boob. Grays? No kiss. The kids seemed joke with them twice. I know that quote socks, but every other quote on this page is one of Kate winslet's three page monologues. Right. Right. Right. Right. Just her being like, I'm the most miserable person alive. Right. I'm pathetic would like that. So or or an Arthur line where he's like back in my day, movies what black and white their color? All his pictures like they used to computers every movies got a computer in it. Now back then pictures used to star Claudette full bear now Claude. Oh, well, you know, this guy's a veteran because of these deep insights. Act then a movie used to make a million dollars. Now, it makes a hundred million dollars. It's almost like inflation has happened in the century that I've been alive. Century that this movie's been running back, then a picture used to be the loom yet Breda's setting up a camera filming people leaving the factory now a picture is the holiday. Oh, great. Great movie used to be book. It had pages and writing in it because cameras didn't exist. Now movie star Jack black. Now more than ever now. More than back then movies didn't have clocks in their walls. The clock would be outside of the wall mounted perhaps a club on the wall. Not in the wall back done the world didn't have enough heroes. Now, the world has had enough heroes prevent this October. What if that if like Cameron, meet Tim in a post credits scene, and she's like, you should do trailer for me, right? In my day, the world did that people had dinosaurs. You're the Wallich an additional eight years after this movie. Do you want your something insane? The way I I knew of Wallich and my frame of reference for him is that he performed at my day camp. Okay. I was not in Kim. Talk testing this character. Did he give a keynote address about how he fucking went to school at Jesus or whatever I am realizing his character is just Allen Shurmur from what hot American summer. That's what I'm saying. Right. But Secondly, this this was like a day camp. I I know people hate when I talked to someone with a different camp. This was a day camp. I went to children day camper. Whatever it was called. It was called professor X's Xs, very special, very big boys. But they would always like after lunch. We'd have to go to like a performance that was usually super fucking boring and some guy would get up, and he'd be like I was fifth cellist in the Philadelphia or monarch in nineteen seventy four and then he would just play the cello. Right. Okay. And the only one that was ever good was ally. Wallich and his wife came in perform. Oh nice. And I said to my mom like odu, they do like waiting for Goodell about the craft of acting, and they did a bunch of scenes I forget what they were. But I remember being like a fucking laugh riot. And I said to my mom like they finally had a good performance today. I was like some old guy name ally. While she was like screen legend, he like wallet glee himself is torn summer camps. And it was just like I love acting so much. I want to share it with the children and Jackson. Just like the same year one of those couples that were married. It was like lovely. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like this was the beginning of a couple of tempts people trying to get ally. Wallich legacy Oskar and all of them were bad. What's the other? He I think he got a legacy AMI. He got an honorary lifetime. I believe right before he died. But I think everyone was looking for the career achieved supporting actor nods because he's never gotten it. Never got. Yeah. I think this was clearly written to be like in Nancy's mind. Oscar for him a Wall Street money never sleeps. I was Oliver Stone sort of trying to do the same thing. He's got like a big scene in the. Yeah. I mean, and he pops up he pumped up and yet he's in the ghost rider. He plays old, man. He pops up in studio sixty on the sunset strip. Like almost the exact same character except this. Character was like on the blacklist, and he's the character. They parody on thirty rock. Yes. The Tim Conway raise look back in my day. You know, the ladies used to whatever. The sandwich told her that because two men would stay right, right. Wallich also on Kapiti ah mister freeze actor preceded by auto premature succeeded by Arnold Schwartz. Three freezes. Yeah. It worth three freezes on the Batman TV show because the first one was George Saunders. Yes. Correct. And then it was. And then he li- wallet. Anyway. Of course, this podcast about Wallich the wall cast. Yes. House with a clock in its walk. Yeah. Thank you wall walking the walk. I just of course, this is blowing trek with Griffin and David. Yes, I'm Griffin Davidson's. We're hashtag the two friends. It's a competitive advantage. We're gonna towards summer camps doing it. And this is a podcast about photography whose money in it. I know do, you know, do you know that David is has become money monster, he's become the titular character of Jodie Foster's? Jodi foster may twenty sixteen movie money monster. Well, have a race that movie. I saw in the theater and reviewed it who was. Well, George Clooney was the money once. Wow. Jack O'Connell the hostage took took the money to hostage and Julia Roberts. He's the real monster. Well, I think societies the real monster in that one. I don't wanna say his name because I don't want to make this a legal thing. But my friend literally fucking wrote money monster film school, except it was the Howard Stern show instead of like Jim Cramer mad money and a year later, his screenwriting teacher sold money monster. Okay. Let's make sure we can say that on this. But yeah. Okay. Named people. Sure, there's only three credited writers of money stern. Okay. But yes. Okay. Cool. So fuck that movie, and this is about filmography director to have massive success early on their current us. Here's a blank checks, make whatever crazy passion project want and sometimes those checks clear and sometimes they exchange houses, baby. Yeah. This is a Macy's on the film's ANSI Myers. It's called something podcast. And today, we're talking the holiday. Now, here's a story about our guest today who spoken on my because she's good. Did not have to be flown in from a different city anymore. Well, that's a big point last century. With court, and it costs a lot of money. But I don't think she knows the story. We may be a month or two after the last time she was on the chauffeur aliens episode went in for a very big business meeting. We were trying to sell the podcast. Okay. And the person we were meeting with was looking at all of our data. And he said, whoever you had on the aliens episode. You should have that person on every week because of how big our number spike was and we're such good businessman that it took us two and a half years to have her on again. Do you remember that he said gonna have her on money? We love money the money monster. Recent. East coast. Well, you already were on the east coast, but tristate area she wasn't this is through the west. Oh, why didn't raise? Yeah. Right. Right. For new in town. You're the point is Fran Hoffner is in town. Thank you. Yes. I got relocated here. Now by the podcast. I'm here forever. Right. During the transferred? Yeah. Cool. Your your heels there until we need you. And it's talk holiday is living in your apartment in Chicago. That's true. She can't both leave how rustic things. Oh, no the tub. It's small. Everything everything is made of stone in love with my neighbors that I had a nice haircut once good. It's not your brother. I guess your brothers. Elsewhere. No he's in Chicago now. Well, there it is to look out for Cameron. She's on the prowl. Well, this movie is weird. Because it's the one Nancy movie that doesn't feel like a blink track. It feels like her trying to make a down the line like this feels less personal than all her other movies. When I say personally don't mean auto biographical. Yes. And no all the other Nancy movies feel like her grappling with like this notion. What you're saying is this is the one movie without a middle aged character. Everyone ended is either like, you know, in their thirties or one thousand years old, no one element. But the other thing is the biggest thing for me is this is the only one post woman want, which doesn't right? That's really based on like a sort of high-concept gimmick. Yeah. It's mostly about one has a gimmick device of the movie than it isn't the character. Also. And we will talk about this her trying out four actors that all of them it feels like she's like trying them out. Yes. You know? Like, ooh. Maybe they'd be afraid to put in a movie, I feel like all other Nancy movies feel like they stem from. Here's an interesting idea for a relationship or a dynamic like it's character. I and this movie feels starts with a what if two people walk laws the interns kinda high-concept too though because like. Interns, are usually young not old agree. But then you see the movie, and it's actually just about that dynamic auto early white. Ryan turns are usually in their twenties. Not in there. I forgot how old he is seventies. How old is he in the movie? Yeah. Starting over though. I guess you're right. This this is a blank cheque. There's also another big high-concept hooked to this movie. Which is what if we're two hours and fifteen minutes, I gave audiences across the world a brief glimpse into the eye of Satan. You stare directly in the asset. We broke friend onboard because friend like many people get manage the film, the holiday I feel like it's reputation in six Americans has grown exponentially in the last five years because this movie was her least successful at the time. It's really didn't do great super expensive. It was incredibly expensive. It did find worldwide think. Oh, I think you know. I don't think anyone was really sweating. But yes, it does not do as well as the movies around it. Something's gotta give. I think this was kind of you'd as a skimmer and in the last couple years, I feel people stand for it. So fucking heart also feel like love actually sort of dipped yet in public reputation. Maybe this is awful. Right. Unlike this movie, which is love actually is worse than the holiday. I'm here. No question. Love actually is. But. Affable acid? Everyone turned on love, actually. And I was like, well, what do we have people and his quietly about Christmas? I think it's also just that as newer people enter the Geist, you know, people maybe sell this movie when they were teenagers are now like old enough because time marches on don't while it can tell us. Yeah. And so they're like today. I've liked that movie since I was ten years old. Like, I love the holiday the holidays. Great. It's been on rotation on cable, or you know, like it's just sort of in their Atkin my day the year was nineteen forty five. Now, the years two thousand and five. I couldn't make that joke. I know you kept on talking, and I was just waiting for the opening because I could not make. Overview making unlimited amount of job. This today is as deep as his perception on how things have. The past was better. Right. Exactly. Like opening weekends in my day opening year was the metric, but but I have to disagree with you here. I don't think he ever argues that the past was better. He just continually argues that it was different never makes judgments. He never explains why one was better than the other. She does ask if it was as good or like was it really all that lived up to it. He goes it was better. But but in relation to her notion of not pass. Back in my day. You'd have one movie every seven months now. It's seven movies everyone. Go fuck yourself. You doesn't really have a complaint, and it's like you saying like, why don't I get work anymore? He knows that. He's ninety like he's not like trying to sell a script. No one does. Member where he lives he hits writing. He doesn't wanna get a war. When we meet him. He doesn't like he barely knows who he is rip torn maximally robbing a Bank right after that. He's basically find me. Trouble with stairs. That's about it. Right. Like apart from that. He's basically, compass he could tell you all the things about how it was the social interaction. Sure. Kate winslet's character iris that really brings back to life everything treks the hell out and the holiday. Because it is your interest on the side of the road. And you're like, oh, David fincher every knot is tied. Ticketless Lee plotted film when you're introduced to him, and he's like a man who doesn't member he lives on the side of the highway or whatever you're just like oh fuck is this movie going to have a dementia subplot with a man who barely knows his own name. And then she's like, you know, where you live and he's like no do because. Yeah. And he goes that makes one of us and then from then on he just speaks in funny little musings, and he's totally coherent and remembers the past vividly. A little too vividly. He's got no take on people can have flare ups at true. It's sort of like the visit. He was some downing. Yeah. Yeah. I wish there was a scene where you like wallet rubbed his diaper and Kate winslet's face. The visit. Yeah, we gotta watch that again. Let's just go back. Let's stick it on the crazy thing that's come up recently that Romley my my sister who is a young person. On paper. She is. I don't know terms of the year. She's been alive. Exactly. Right. According to science, she's young price. But most pointedly was less than your old when the success came out has never heard of the sense. And this has not had the twist ending ruined for her. And doesn't know it has a twist ending. She doesn't even know that. It has twist ending like she was talking about hereditary. And I was like, yeah. It's like another great Toni Collette struggles with her family and ghost movies. You're right. And she's like, what's the other one? I was success. And she's like what's the success? That's cool. And I was like no one's told you the ending of the success. And she's like why something happened at the end. And I'm so excited to fucking watch the success with her apparently, the one personal live who hasn't caught all the jokes about the success of good for her cooking cooking. My impression is very impression. You get the door Griffin or something off in the distance. Getting closer. Oh. No, no. Oh my God. Do you know, then you see who it is? No, low white, Nick fury. Hi, white, Nick fury. No judgment. I'm just saying. I am that canon the marvel six one six comic version of Nick fury. Well, welcome to the studio been there was an idea. To put together a team of extrordinary people. Sure. Okay. For the greatest ad read of all time. Okay. And so you're here ZipRecruiter. Sponsoring this episode. Are they not? Yeah, they are. Well, when you want to put together a team. Okay. I see where we're going extrordinary people. Sure. Like, I white Nick fury wanna do. For ad read Infinity war. Whoa. Great. Hey done on a Nana Nana. Okay. I was dead here in the corner. Oh god. 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Attach all the Loney. Toons are here and me name. It's me helper. Brooks. Okay. Everyone of hey. Touch that. Hey, don't touch that genie. Luigi? Right. Do you? Remember me, the wets rans. Oh my God nemesis. All right. I'm just going to start top. No. I'm just gonna XBox trap. Listen. Hey, I am Perot perhaps the greatest address or all time. All right. Hi. It's me Jack Nicholson baby. Oh my God. Another man's rhubarb. Yes. Yeah. To meet chicks. I just wanted to another ad read. Could I do the first one? Millie Jackson Mangelsdorf. We're sure just wanted to another address. The kid. Yeah. And so what? In the studio. Right. You sleepy, but it's wide awake. Who's this man with his soaking wet bedsheets? He looks like he just came from Brooke. Oh, I know that guy. It's Brooke who sells linens by the brook. Hey, brooke. How're you doing? Good well Griffin. We've assembled the greatest ad read team of all time certainly have white Nick fury. What should we do? Now. I don't know. 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Can you get everyone out of the studio? It's very crowded in here. Now, I mean. Tricks. Took my red man ox doing in the corner. They left their cereal box here. All right. Can we get back to the Pacific? Please. This movie I feel like the moment where I realized and we talked about this a little bit. Someone's gotta give thing. But there was a thing last fall where there was like a big Twitter game of everyone recasting their holiday remake. There was. Yeah. Where it was like pick four actors who you would put in the holiday and come up with too weird mismatched couples. And it was just like do many people like the holiday, and is it just the notion that you have two parents like, what do you think there that that? Yeah. Like, that's not the premise. No. I don't. I this miss me completely. I sort of came back into the holiday I feel like in like twenty fifteen twenty sixteen so about the tenth anniversary. Well, it was a big college favorite of ours too. But I saw in theaters also, okay. You saw in theaters. So I didn't there's at the rand her. Stay MC hells. Yeah. Did you see it in theaters? I saw it infielders in Newcastle. Where I went to college at the Newcastle Odeon or whatever the fuck it was called by that point because Britain had like chill out. No, I got no complaints. David was on a holiday. Propo-? He took a holiday to another country where he didn't live Odeon in Britain is the major theater chain this sort of AMC or whatever, and they got so big that Britain, literally invoked the monopoly law and said to Odeon like you need to give like fifteen multiplexes to a new company like so suddenly the they just turned into something called empire, which was like same employees same thing. But they would just like we're a new company already at a second company because they were just like there's too many audience you own like sixty percent or seventy percent of the market like unacceptable like this percent has to be given away. That's crazy. Isn't that? Crazy. Yeah. Imagine that happening here and on a vacation on the less. I mean, that's so stressful for you to have this movie on a date. I was super pump for it. Because humble because I was like really into ANSI Myers. I really loved something's gotta give as we discuss. And I was like I I was just in on like Jude law. I was I was kind of in on the sort of Jack. Black leading men experiment five or six six. Okay. So Jack risotto is post King Kong. Sure. But more importantly post school of rock. But yes, well, no, I think koskoff rock is the first proper Jack black totally works as a leading man movie King Kong. I look at as when they were like, let's see what else he can do. Can you put him outside of Jack black movie and make it work? That's why I bring up King Kong king kind and I was mixed on King Kong. But it certainly hadn't turned me off Jack black necessarily still like I liked Jack black. Yeah. You know, I guess I'd seen high fidelity when I was you know, whatever age I was fourteen. Yeah. Which I you know, I was like I'm on the ground floor of this guy. I want him to do. Well, that is one of the most incredible star is born performances ever because he literally like slams open the doors of movie, and you go like this guy's a movie starring oh, look at this guy. What's he doing this dude who was? Show sketch black up to. All right. So I was like pump for the movie I saw I literally just like was like, this is the worst longest fucking piece of shit. So mad. I went like we had dinner afterwards. And I was like God. That was terrible. I don't think she liked to like it was like neither of us were that into it. And so I was like soured on Nancy for a little while. I was so mad at her for this movie. Yeah. My mom loves this movie, watches, it all the time and re routinely chides me for not being into what I'll say about the run time is that it's very long. I went to go see it at the ranters Dame see with my friend, John non date, but my. My parents were like how long is the movie it was Rahm comments, probably ninety minutes. And then I went fully off the grid for two and a half hours, and I got ground because I misrepresented how long the movie was to my parents. I had one of those as well, I feel like for movie kids, especially in that era. It was like a real risk to be like, well, of course, I'm going to turn off my phone. I'm a considerate movie goer. But also, I'm fourteen if my parents can't reach me for three hours, I might get grounded. When I go to the new world or whatever. I saw this movie in theaters it is the only Nancy Meyers movie. I saw theaters we really I've seen all of her other movies on home video. But. It is one of the only movies I ever walked out of sure, and I will say this. I walked out because the group I was with was like fuck this movie. Sure. Sure. Start the walking. I don't think I've ever walked out of a movie of my own volition, the only way be I tried to work out of Pearl Harbor when I was fifteen where I realized that the film was like there was like two hours left of the film. Right. Felt like I'd been in there for a million years, and I turn to my friend. So let's just go. And he was like they haven't even bought a harbor yet. That was fine. Like, I was like at least I'm here to see definite destruction. If nothing else going, no, I walked out of it. I didn't protest, but I wouldn't have walked out of it on my own volition, I member than I vividly because after we walked out my friends took a bunch of photos, and I was like that was the best. I ever looked like still on Facebook. When I look at the photos of me outside the Lincoln square potty. Yeah. That was my peak. And I didn't even realize it walking out of the holiday was the coolest. I will ever be right. But then I saw the second half of it on a plane like six months later. I guess I should watch the second half. And it was like. Yup. Don't like it. But the thing that was very. No worthy to me. Especially since I saw the the hours. Separately is my big into the movie was like, okay. I don't really like Nancy Meyers movies. I don't have that much interest in watching Cameron as Jude law rom com. I like both of them certainly at this time both a lot. But I'm like that looks really generic the Kate Winslet, Jack black pairing is interesting. These are people who don't do movies. Like, oh, you mean on paper Kate Winslet as an actress doesn't tend to do big movies shooed? It wasn't just the Titanic essentially, I will not do those kinds of right interesting. This point was hardcore Kate Winslet fanatic like she was my favorite living. Actress. She was my favorite living act. China Masumi was the I was like so in on little children. I was like so in on all of them. Little children comes out right at the same time, very very close to this movie October to this movies. I think this ember so that was fresh in your mind, I loved her in like everything from like two thousand two till she wins the Oscar and the reader is like the first performance of hers. I didn't like all right. I'm going to run that down for you run. You just because it goes like this the life of David gale, which she is abominable. You're right. I haven't seen that movie eternal sunshine, which is great, right? Finding neverland. I mean at the time. Right. Yeah. That I remember neither sold on her at the time. I was gone. She can do. No wrong is creepy romance and cigarettes, the John toreros musical. I've never seen. I think she's getting all the king's men never seen favorable of all time, I refuse religion. I love that book the original movies fine watch that little children, right which flushed away. She's good in that. I mean, she's she's good. It's. Giving you have to be fair. She's good enough. She plays a rat. Name Rita who lives underneath a toilet and the holiday in which she plays her second iris because she had iris film IRAs. Right. Just great in that. She is good at this point. She's gotten like five Oscar nominations, and she's just turned thirty thirty one for little children. She did since since since ability iris Titanic eternal sunshine, little children, attornal, sunshine. Literal. She didn't get a finding Neverland not getting. I mean that would that was the same years eternal sunshine. They thought maybe she'll get supporting n lead. And she didn't. I mean, good. Yeah. Fine. Yeah. No. She had that. Right. That sort of run of that. I guess Amy Adams is on now where he was like thirty like she was she had done it a very young age while after being in the biggest movie of all time that could have seemed like an overwhelming shadow over most young actors careers. She had sort of zagged and then the shit too big student. We was exciting to me Jack black I loved I loved everyone trying to see if they could expand the jackpot persona the first hour of this movie after the initial setup has sold little Kate Winslet so little Jack black. It's especially Jack, buck, right? Like doesn't really come in in a serious way. Until the last thirty minutes of the movie pretty much to make that achieving. He is the fifth lead of this behind Eli wall, which is really frustrating. No less of him better in this disagree. Oh, diss visits. Okay. Three jet black less object. What is? Die on. This literally makes me want to walk into the sea. I think he is what's to not understand or life. So charming in this? Yeah, he so term slowly written. I think he's very charming in this movie doing little melodies what what guy. To me. I would call the police. And then possibly murder them in a few minutes. While I waited for the police to back in my day. We didn't have riba de do. Please had fluidity fluke. I would call the police and say, oh, I can't be held accountable for what happens next, and I would like hold the phone up to him as he was going like, Scooby doo. I would. What about? Join it was so horrified by him in this movie that I keep being like, you know, he's got such a great reputation. He's like a nice guy like really good like trying to his harbor. Okay. I'll say majority is going to win this argument. And it's an argument. I watched this with my girlfriend humble BRAC and say it again. Brag humble brag and beat and say you I like that. Once I self humble, brag you asked me to do it again fair it is fair because you've done it to somebody. With your. Thank you. I watch. And. Chee every time it came on screen was like I can't believe how good he is. He's amazing. I agree. He's he's giving the most natural in performance. And right now, I also say I brought this up to a crush of mine, and they were like, oh, Jack black movie. That's that's the first person. They went to for icon ick romantic performance. Ben tiebreaker. It's not tight because already. Yeah. You can make it a tie. Well, I joined my Saturday. Onto music because I like music, and you totally like to annoy women with Scooby to like that. Moves david. That's fair. He also annoys Dustin hell to make it sound. Like, it's a gender thing is very unfair. We're going to get the dust. Plock busters. Hang out in a band distort. Does something you do. Then. This is super beta wave is like rats girl Elliott, Ben you checked into the holiday this morning. I sure right before watching, and you you were fucking on this movie liked it a lot. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with it. No. It's great earns its run time. I'll tell you this napkin head rule funny. Okay. Incredible. That Jude law didn't make J F L new faces that year it's a bit with with napkin. Hey, I mean, how new faces characters new faces character. Well, that was I think that's what fucked them up is that they didn't have characters at the time. And if they had characters he would have gotten him with napkin head he's a killer catchphrase though for his stand up. I am daddy. Daddy. He's daddy. You imagine being daddy. Anything? I am daddy. And then even becoming more over time number one. It's fifty percent of why all in on having daddy his Addy. I'm going to try and find the clip embarrassed. Daddy. But why why be embarrassed don't be embarrassed embrace your daddy cookbooks at night. Fran. He says Andy as a cow. How could a man do those things? I am deady. Yes. I am daddy. So this just feels like she slam-dunk went into Sony. Right. And this is Columbia after she'd made a bunch of money off. Something's gotta give at Columbia. Okay. And says like, hey, here's the pitch women. How swap you get four big movie stars. I'm writing it for Cameron Diaz Jude law, Jack black Kate Winslet all four of them are interested, and they gave her a green light. Right. This feels like a one sentence pitch. Yeah. I guess. So I mean, you say this isn't a blank check movie, but she had her biggest blank check. Like somebody's gotta give was a huge hit. Yeah. I think she was just like I'm going to make another movie, I think it's a blank check in terms of her being able to make movie without any interruption. It just doesn't feel this kind of money to guess. Yeah. And also to pick her casts and all right? You know shit. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the big thing is that like she had proven so good with movie stars. Like, I will finally make another big studio movie with Nancy Meyers, I'm trying to think of I guess, she had just had not I guess none of these count is big studio movies. Not really all the king's men. Maybe. Yeah. That was supporting part though. Yes. Not a very large part in that movie. Jude loss also aware because that's the one where Sean Penn at the Oscars. Like to find time. I mean, that's important context of this movie is two thousand four year. When Jude law is in like, eight movies in six months. Right. This is the tailend Tober through December. He had six films. I think that's four. Right. That's what I'm saying. Oh, five was the year where it was like all the king's men which had been pushed back. There's nothing. No five five is cool down. Yeah. Oh, okay. So five was supposed to be all the king's men, then it gets pushback to assist. Four run is huckabee's which he's fantastic. I Wayan frame if you love him huckabee's accent bad. But I think the performance is good. I the accident works for me because that person is like a robot. Alfie which he's never seen trimmer. I guess so that movies horrible directed by Nancy Meyers ex-husband closer, which he's sort of the worst in like what Lincoln his character? It's kind of the worst role because he's just. Gene on me or what I don't even that movie is not super distinctive. Remember, I know people love that movie. The which he plays Earl flooding. A nice little parts skycap, Dan, where he played the role of skycap, Dan, I believe you haven't read out the full title, film sky, captain and the world of tomorrow in my day. It was the world yesterday. I fucking no one has ever been more excited for the release of a movie than I was for sky captain in the world. It's you have no idea. How hard I bought into skycap in the world tomorrow. I never saw a piece of ship. It's really not. I'm being GO. I remember seeing being like, oh, this is kind of boring in on engaged a little boy, I would like to see it again to see if it it plays any difference easing Curio. Now, it's so fucking not a piece of shit. I feel now I feel like I'm being snarky dude. It's but it's not great. At least that I'm right about the holiday sort of acting. How you speak to the rest of us his final four is where he played lemony snick it in. He rent out. Right. You should've got an golden typewriter and in six he had all the Kingsman probably held over. Yeah. Making an entering the final Anthony Minghella rate, which is a weird movie. Yeah. Truly weird. And this so four is like too much Jude law too fast. And I feel like the public response. Why is Hollywood? Man alive. Right. It was Barack Sienna Miller thing was happening. Like, he was just fucking everywhere. And everyone was like, whoa. Nellie slowdown and Chris rock front of right. Oh five. He's quiet. And then oh six he comes back. And now it's like who is gonna be now. He's young. He's already had a big tabloid like blow up he's already gotten to Oscar nominations. What's his career going to be? And this feels like young though at this point. Yeah. How old is he thirty? He's thirty five. Like this is. Yeah. He'd been around to ones daddy. He's tanning. That is true. Fran. I forgot about that. And thank you father. Not daddy. Yes. I am father kids kids. It doesn't hit a wife who had a great ass. Sorry, laugh, the two things woman needs. Shelly Burmans in their great Shelly perfuse grade. I love Shelley Berman. The year after this. He does my blueberry nights. Right. He makes some blueberry, pancakes or Jones, or whatever and sleuth, which is a disaster bad. Dad, and that's the end of Jude law's leaving man opinion, and then he becomes aware characters then. Yeah. Then he locks into like Sherlock, Holmes, Hugo and a criminal right where he's like soda. Right. And then he's great and side effects here ago sort of gives up on the leading man, this is the last movie where he's like, no hair line. Yeah. Normal hairline for a man with hair right head, which by the way, Judah still looks fucking great. You mean right now. Yeah. I think right now, I think he looks great in this movie movies twelve year. I'm asking right like into I'm saying teen, I twenty nine he looks great. I agree. I really like the way he looks. And I like the way he's let himself age. I think he's still very handsome. But I think he's looks great. I mean like in like Dumbledore. He looks cute as that or pops his ass on that love this. I try to. Stories like. And they're like Dumbo. Oh, what's up with you? Just like hops zest out of the table. Only thing that makes me wanna see that move very curious about it and just like him in like crimes of Grinel wall. Though. Look, we already tried those. I'd be so much more interested if it was like a like people versus OJ. Jay made in America. Our documentary about it's all set in the the wisdom agat, isn't that what the whatever it's called? I just made that movie sons too crowded rice and the crimes griswald how many how many? Man, six twelve to thirteen crime groups of things that sound ominous and our. I just like he's the one thing. I kind of enjoy about the Sherlock Holmes movies. He's good. Fun now sort of like playing I love him in Anna Kournikova, like what I really was like, okay. This guy is finally gotten what gra- directory can be. Yeah. Vox looks which is coming out soon. Especially when this thing posts is as I was telling about him at box locks. Yeah. I can't wait can't wait. He's got a jacket on the whole time. He's. Now, it's sort of the new thing about me. Oh, yeah. France, the Yankees fans like Patrick with French. We do our segment catching up with. Yeah. Fram. So frame has walked into the studio. Head to toe in Yankees. She's eating street hotdog she'll talking about Aaron judge. Nine people think I don't know. She won't checking a New York subway math. It's the rattling you're hearing. Yeah. She shaking bunch of subway tokens. Okay. I don't even know she got her. No place to even put them anymore. Fran. How's how's it feel to be in the city that never sleeps New Jersey? The main part about living. There is that. I'm also I'm walking here. You are walking always walking here. No, it's good. It's good. I'm having time. I mean, I love the Yankees of trash full trash, right? Into sort sorta like air cooked trash. How do you feel about ditches ditches? I spent a lot of time growing up. You know, there are a couple I will say I say, well, I sometimes I go for runs, and I was exploring new routes in New Jersey, and there's one I don't do because I'm like too many ditches take just takes me pass too many. And I'm always nervous something could come in or out until you try to know. Yeah. Ben, of course, is trying to set up a backdoor pilot for his own spinoff podcast, ditch please in which he just ranks the best ditches in New Jersey and the tristate area large learn so much about New Jersey. So if you have a list of ditches for me to sort of check out, please let me now I'm going to develop a whole like spreadsheet or cheat or some kind of road map for you like good hotdogs, great vintage clothes. Good porch. Good. Power plant. Hurry. This is over. Well, come on. In the ditch. Thing. I really enjoy about having a sister, a decade younger is that a Caisley I will like recommend a movie to her and she will watch it and be like, wait. I didn't understand like why this person had a career. Sure. Sure. Sure. And in the last year Romley watched both towns of mister Ripley and something about Mary, and like came back to me and was like so what happened to Kennedy as what happened to Jude law? Well, let's let's move over to Cameron Diaz, right? Like the. But I think that's what's interesting about the to them in this movie is like this is them trying to hold onto the vestiges of that sort of like sparkling unbelievable super bright start on they have when they hit. Yeah. And at this point, they're kind of like going through the motions of I think, this is what someone people find charming about me. Yeah. And they're sort of style that way to or they're both really. I mean, it makes sense that she is tan, but he got that sort of like fake Hollywood tan. She's very sparkly. She's always in her like creams. I mean, that's an. Thing. She's sort of playing like an Meyers character that's twenty years too young like it's sort of an odd because she's like, I'm just so Taipei. And like, I just like everything how it is. Also, a Misanthrope. She's we're going to characters. Crazy. Can we talk about for a sec? Yes. Okay. You've like you wanted to say I think your point for both of them feel like Disneyland robot versions of Jude law and Cameron Diaz program to do what they think audiences like from them. And it was like both of them were like, why did they want me to be a movie star in the first? What was the thing? Here Diaz is very weird because she I feel like hit as this like I mean like the mask she's just like a sex pot. The joke is that. She's like, no misdirect. No. But she's doing what she became a thing where she sort of goofy kind of klutzy person as movie sets are up is like here's human Jessica rabbit and the goal dress. She. Comes down right more, well, rounded, human one. And then I think something about marriage where they really solidify where it's like, oh, she's just like this Ray of sunshine. Sure is this very Larry goofy. Very also my best friend's wedding, which she rules him. Right. Oh my God. She's but she's a sense we play tag on that. No. The whole point is that she's nice. That's the tag is. Julia Robert and saying the journey that. Julia Roberts has to go on to realize that she's the bad guy movie is a masterpiece do PJ HOGAN. Yeah. Peter pan. Reveals wedding. What else? Weird one Peter Pan. Oh, he did. He did confessions. Then mental what's meant Toni Collette is an Australian movie. Okay, back with and. That's it. Yeah. Wow. But you know, that emeal's wedding best friends wedding, Peter Pan. That's a weird trio. Yes. Sorry, Karen becomes huge and six P Mary phenomenon. Charlie's angels is huge for her that much Cam also best friends wedding. And I've seen this and I've seen in her shoes. And that might be it being John Malkovich. Vanilla sky. She has her two-run where. Game timing. She's real fast. Yeah. She is miscast, and I love that movie to death. But she is she's miscast. She's doing her best. I think Vanilla Sky. And she's she's great in both of she's really good. Those are probably her best performance. She should have been nominated for yet. And she got like globe numbs. But no, she got close and she got Sagnol. I think too. And then and then in her shoes is probably the best of her rom com performances. I love them, right? Like, I would maybe giving four Oscar nominations. If I ruled the world. She's great in inner shoes. Which is an underrated movie. Yeah. Although I haven't seen it since theaters. But I remember it being good. She's really good. And I know some people really stick up for that movie. But then there's a weird thing post in her shoes were all her performances start being really mean. Well, this what happens in Vegas where she's kind of played as like an asshole. I haven't seen that she bad teacher. She's bad. Yeah. Mean mean and bad I in my day teaches were good educated. The children of America were bed. No, no. But isn't it kind of interesting then like she stops being goofy like effervescent, and she starts being like, really angry and older certain things. I in having seen angry I'm going to throw out to like Knighton day, she sort of klutzy and fun and that one right? Like isn't that again, so camera that it doesn't feel very old school? You got the green hornet? I literally forgot she's in that. I forgot I forgot that home a bit in that movie. The bitten that movie is that she is Seth Rogan's like secretary. He keeps on thinking they have thing. And she just keeps shutting him down. Sounds great sounds like a rewarding role the counselor which is incredible. And in the car, and it's the greatest and that movie rules. It's weird because. Her entire performance movie is completely bizarre performances. One hundred percent yard because they didn't like the voice. She did. On sounds great. She apparently of riana impression and they made her redoubled in American. Accent seems good good good. Call on eighty are there. Ridley the other woman, which is the one with Leslie Mann Kate Upton where they like enact revenge on directly. Jamie. Yeah. She one of those three women. She's one of the three of them. Or is there all the other women? I guess that's the I don't know. I only remember man and Upton my two favorite actresses, of course, genuinely categorize all of these as angry performances. I think her thing becomes if angry. And then her last film ever. And now she says sex tape, I which I haven't seen to be fair and any say that's her last performances playing MRs Hannigan like the most unpleasant Kerry, it's true. You're right. She plays a lot of sharp-edged characters which is the opposite of what the first half of career. I just think it's an interesting severe shift. The holiday started of in the middle complaint because she's nice N sharp. Yeah. Well, she's so likable, but her whole thing is being like, well, I'm unlikable. She's so yeah. She definitely keeps telling off that. She doesn't have emotions that she's fucking robot from the planet. Yeah. And she's she's bad. At sexually doesn't have emotion. She hasn't cried in twenty years. And yet we constantly see her laugh and enjoy the corrections by Jonathan Franson. She's like a wheelbarrow Oprah's book. I don't know she got that on the plane flick a few shots of both of those books. And then totally forgotten the second she meets daddy. She looks sits down on the couch. Reads like one book for like five minutes like God, I need to book plane home this. I am out of here. No, it's a very odd performance. I in this mix on her. It is weird that she just I guess just gave up. I mean, you can't top the counselor. No, she apparently, she's happy being married to one of the good, Charlotte, boys. Madden's right. She's married to a Madden. Benji madden. Ninety eight. That's she's didn't she Timberlake that was a while. Remember dillon? She did it for a while from there something about rod. She did for well timberlake's best album is about her. I would say which is your sex. Love sounds just. Good. That was the other thing. I was oh, man. Oh matter I think that's. Yeah. Wait. A second started interrupt the momentum. We have going in this episode. 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This is the last one I think she's a full six months old of Jude law. The cradle. Cool. Cool. Yeah. So Jack buck we talked about him. You know, he's the ugly Shannyn Sossamon in this movie. Yeah. Which lays the actress, Jack. Yes. Yeah. And she's got like three lines in forty days and forty say she'd had a couple like and nights tale where it was like, maybe she's a thing. And then thing right. They she's already getting three lines. She. Yes, she she it rules of attraction is her less big movie. Right. And she shows up in kiss kiss bang bang as well. But she's like gets murdered right? Isn't the like the mystery girl, right? Weird career. Sure at burns Advair as we famously or aware is from Brooklyn in. David. Now, I know I know that that's like a fan theory that I'm like building on slanderous. He might sue us for saying that on. Crazy things. He's actually from. He played a character and saving private Ryan in which he was insanely third build where I guess like if you if you sort of sift through his name. Joey brooklyn. Isn't he insanely second build or a Sizemore too? Second. He's second. I think. Sizemore. Yeah. I mean, it's Hank's saving private Ryan. I mean hangs above. But yes, he is second build Damon his third build size Moore's fourth mile. Well, absolutely crazy VIN diesel. Of course, you know. You know, the burn story. That's like insane. Right. How he got his start? Maybe he was a PA on entertainment tonight, and Robert Redford came to do an interview. Okay. And he had made. Brothers Milligan was his first film. Mcmullan brothers McMullen. Right. He had made brothers McMullen. And was like, oh, Robert Redford very runs Sundance. And he like went upstairs got a VHS of his movie and handed it to Robert Redford. And the elevators. Hey, can you watch? Maybe put it in your festival, and he did right. Like this thing they tell you not to do don't go up to a famous person go to with Roger Robert Redford. Right. Like, those lunatics who go to QNA's with their full screenplay, and they're like can you read? This literally went to Robert Redford at an interview with VHS state, right? Yours. And from queens. And he was like what he was handsome went home watched it about this kid hold Sundance like put it in the festival, and then it got bought for like two million dollars one one the dramatic. Crazy this. He plays a big a big douchebag fucking sucks. Rufus Sewell plays the world's greatest super villain. Yeah. He plays an emotional barrel in a sweater. He's good in this move. So it starts with a lot of Kate Winslet voice over about the nature of love and the tragedy of love and unrequited love. Right. She's writing a wedding column for the Daily Telegraph, right? And this feels very kind of like Bridget Jones. Jason it's like, okay. Here's a beautiful Hollywood movie star playing a quote unquote, mass mousy shirt unnoticed girl in the office in England. And you're like, I get what kind of movie this is she's in love with her co worker, they seemingly have this kind of emotional affair. But also they have slept together. It's not an emotional affair. They've he's heard it on. She's been on this. His bit on the side. She has never committed to her. And she's always in love with him. And he always dips into the pool every once in a while. And as seriously dating other women he's off right, right? He's got a girlfriend. They have this. Flirt, she's convincing her friend that someday he's actually gonna leave her for for Kate. Sure. He's going to sell them Cape. And then they announce Christmas party at the holiday party that he's in fact, engage their other co worker, I guess it set up the Kate Winslet is the one who writes the marriage announcements in the paper. Yeah. So cruel. Myers. Also, like, literally replicates the push in on her crying face from Cincinnati ability. It's literally the same shot just ten years later. But I am immediately on board with this movie. I'm like, I am so into watching Kate wins ninety do her version. Abridge outs. Trying to get pick yourself off the floor and find love again. And you realize the very beginning like Cates, really given up performance here. Like, she knows she's in Vermont comedy. She knows it's a movie star mode. But like there's real pesos to what she's playing and I'm so on board. Okay. Can I give my opinion? Yes. Bridget Jones's funny. She has like personality makes jokes. Yes. Eight wins is like a cinch in sponge, just sort of sit. You're right. I'm sorry. Just like as everyone treads all over. She's the worst protagonist. I think she doesn't have any joke seeing going into recession other than being miserable. She's nice to people, very polite. She plays it very well. And as the gardeners good at playing said person a talented actor she rolls. I loved her teenager. When I saw this theaters because I was like, I also sad. I will say now I come up to. I will say now, she's like, the world's most pathetic woman in way to literally grab her and be like what's going on with their people like that certainly caught up in a bad toxic relationship thing. Again, let's get out of this and say in movies there are leading ladies, and they're the best friends and your problem is that you're a leading lady, but you act like, you're the best friend. Yes, that's something that happens in the movie. Thank you cry. Again, we were on typewriter a waiter refills her breadsticks, she cries at him. Thank you so much. I didn't even ask for breadsticks. Yeah. This is this great fuck and setup when we cut to LA and Cameron Di as like, okay, we're opposite on this movie. Right. When we all right now, we're cooking is insane insane per. Zero percent of the camera Di has half of the movie, I'm returning it. The sore. Shore. This is wrestle now to disagree with both of you. All in on on Winslet, black David's all Deanna all out on the Winslet shit. Out Bridget Jones, which is hardly a perfect movie. But British people are funny. They are funny and ri- and like sarcastic, Dave. And you don't know this free Myers making accusations. Nancy Meyers opinion of British people literally just like, oh, yeah. They're just like a bunch of polite doormats or jerks like that's her sense of humor. So bad. Right. And like, I hate it from minute one. It's the same shit. That bothers me about a lot of British rom coming things. But at least they could be funny. Not funny. Where are the jokes? Nancy? You can write jokes. But Cameron this is where Nancy's just like. Oh, yeah maniacs. Oh, yeah. I know what they're like. Yeah. Exactly. It's cranked up to eleven the second shape. What's going expensive pajamas at burns the sleeping on the couch already? He comes up, and it's like we never have sex. And we hate each other. Do you think this relationships working right which the setup is that they got in the fight where she accused him sleeping. They went. Okay. Let's pause. This flight you go downstairs sleep on the couch hours later. Let's wake up and continue the fight end media razz. Correct shoes at him. Well, I've been Ellie three times. This is how it is there. I found. Everyone say. The size of a cat. So I was this done. They starting to stop arguments whenever they want. It is a very accurate realistic portrayal of people in LA in the sense that I watched this movie, and every moment go this is why I don't live there. Like it reminds me, oh, constant whipping winds. So why is it so war? It's like because the weird crazy wind that blows through here. Like a fucking goes wins only affect Kate Winslet. It's true. Well, she's English. She's never been in their life. What is she takes her parka? This movie starts and she's like playing like a Gene Hackman character. Just about everything just screaming. She's the world's most successful trailer. Make even the trailer blows chunks. Doesn't edit it at all herself. Does it? Right. So I have a question about the head of the trailer for what is she? She says she started herself. But it works out of her home only. Yeah. Here's my big question. And then you clearly wanna waste Trillo companies are like Addy's where they have an office on. No, she's doesn't herself because she so fucking good. Does it Chris? He's just you know, she she directs he's technician and Kevin hunt as well. Sort of like a personal right? Do you think Krizan ski just lives there? I kept wanting Winslett when she's opened a door since you don't mind me you like that it the same way that like is on the hook taking care of that dog. That's gotta take care of presents. Don't you think he was like basically lives Chris has a bowl? House takes care of itself. You do have to empty his bucket once a day. That's it. Like, right. Krinsky only dry food. Han is a mix of wet and dry, and you have to put a little pill in there. Feed her once a day. But it's a big report presents three small portions just a handful or there's a scoop if. What did you want to say? My question about Krinsky is do you think Jon Corzine ski in the holiday is the Adam driver of Lincoln of two thousand six. Like a guy with a haircut from it sitcom was just sort of like, oh he's in this for once. That's an incredible a great indisputably. Once more slower, I genuinely just want to. Yes. It is John Chris key in the holiday. The Adam driver of Lincoln of two thousand six. Yes. I think so too. Okay. Great one hundred percent. And what was I going to say since he's there? She has. She kicks out at burns. Who finally is like, yeah, I slept with my sister. Who cares? Like, this is the worst thing in the world. Why wouldn't I sleep with my sister? And she ended their religious. She says shipping, she says shipping. Yeah. Do you think she learned that word that day? Yes. I think she might have run into. Spend still while he was on one of its his walks. I can my day. We didn't sixty nine we ninety six. That's my current age, by the way, ninety six where you rub your cheeks against the other person's of the back of their head. What I was gonna say is they also set up at this moment cameras. The Terminator because he complains about the fact like you wanna be with you. Doesn't even cry during the break up, and she's like so what my problem is that I haven't cried in two and a half decades. Which I have a little since the fire. I have a little hot theory. I think this movie is in portions very much Nancy being inspired by Garden State. Okay. Because because he can't cry and Garden State feels very rip from garden Stanger when all the faucets. They turn on bacon cry. But. L? They. Jersey. It's an iconic jersey movie for that there's the medieval times in the ditch making it the most New Jersey film ever made this movie two years after Garden State, which means you probably serve writing it right after she saw Garden State Hossa. Remember, she does take a while to make movies. They do kind of make that the ark of winds Cameron finally going to break down and cry again. Yeah. And the other thing is she uses the fucking Garden State song the scene. Right. Which is the big end song when they? What do they know what the fuck with what my Natalie for none of the Banda what they call change your life one with. No imaging frou frou. That's what they were called. That's what was called. Yes. Lexa fucking song. That one. Yeah. Here's my take on the crying thing. She just made a movie with an extended crying scene. So she's like what if? Instead of crying cry. There's the weird montage of Cameron Diaz getting her laptop when she's trying to find a place to go on holiday, right, which feels like her trying to replicate the Diane crying. There's an iconic IM ING seen just like in. Something's gotta give where like Jack how you doing smiley face him, except he reads it out. So he's like colon parentheses. Right. Yeah. He sends her the rhubarb emoji. Don't rub robots. Have you ever been dancing lady with the devil emoji in the pale mood? He does that do, you know friends? Which part that people? Shouldn't rub. Another man's who've I do know. Do know. So they're both miserable ladies going through. Yeah. It's Christmas a lonely time for you. And so it's a holiday in that sort of Christmas is a holiday but holidays also British people call vacation true that is something to consider when thinking about how you talk about. Or how were your holiday to think about when you talk derisively about the movie? Okay, cure something. I hate about this film. Sorry fan. But I think you might not disagree with the point. I'm about to me. I don't like that Kate Winslet and Kennedy have no relationship in this movie. There's the one phone call towards the end where they do the bit with Winslet not knowing who she's on this kind of thing. Yes. Right. And then at the end dancing together. I I feel like it makes the two halves of the movie she'll really disconnected little bit. I think you're right. And you wanna see them have some sort of relationship. Even if it's regular check ins over the funding like what's going on your end? 'cause the kind of fun is that they swap lies. And I was watching this. And I was like God, I feel like they're other movies that work. Well, we're the people have stopped lives, but it works because they know each other improved if she's like, I really need to go somewhere. What if I call my old pal from college? I read I haven't I haven't even better. But I was like what what am I thinking there's like another movie where someone does this. And they swap lives. I was like, oh, it's the parent trap. A shittier adult version of the parent trap. Okay. I just feel like there we talked about this and the parents have episode, but I love that the first thirty minutes that movie are the two of them together neutral zone at the camp. And they like preppy for what he lives are like. And then the first time you see each of their lives. It's through the eyes of someone seeing it for the first time. Okay. But how does that work in this movie because I think it's kind of ruined the swap by the fact that you know, what their lives are like. So when they get there. You're like, okay. Yeah. I know camera Di isn't gonna like this. But then he would she then they would know that you'd was daddy. Yeah. She doesn't know I well by the time they talk on the phone. It's sort of like, oh, I wish they'd talked on the phone before. Can she knows that Judas dirty? Can I tell you my pitch? This is my pitch. The movie starts with them. Stuck at an airport. Okay. We've all been there. Some sort of way over over some mid point some neutral zone trying to get flights back to their homes. Right. And they're sitting at the bar talk. Looking at the airport bar. They start commiserating together. This is the first ten minutes of the movie about a miserable. They are in their lives. Their breakup, they just went through a stressed out their jobs. They're just like fuck it. You get on my plane get on your plane, right? And it's like, you board you land in this other place where you have no notion of what life you're about to this movie needs the sort of developing surprises like bubble up such as Jude law's daddy bath is small camera and like she has curtains. Huge twist. Those guys is like fully surprises to us the audience as well. So it's like you want to live and you're like, okay. These are too. Nancy Meyers lives, and then they switch places and cameras hates everything. And Kate Winslet loves everything. Elling mansion is very garnish to me. Oh, it's fine. I happily cutting most charming romantic comedy movie set of all time and like Kennedy acts like she's living in a coal mine. Can I I'll all right? Well, I'm going to argue with you again. Okay. Because Cameron Diaz has mentioned. Yes. Perhaps not to my taste if I were to own a mansion. Yeah. But if I were it's like a hotel like if I be like, oh, it's got everything perfect curtain screening. Right. L LA and just only watching movies in your home rails punch drunk love. She's got the largest she's got Punchdrunk club only Sony movies. I love is that Sony movies. Always every character Sony movie has via laptop and owns a bunch of Sony that synergy, right? Cases, like density anger management, Sony, movies of the first five years of the two thousand and then Kate Winslet is is quaint. Yes. And beautiful so idyllic and style having the tub small painting and on vacation on holiday, whatever. Whatever you want to tell yourself those places are so fucking stressful because of the things like some of the jokes. She makes those booking roads that are so tiny and like the lack of amenities. I get that. And everyone everything in England is designed for like twenty people. I get that. But this is an area in which I think Nancy's aesthetic sensibilities hurt her as she doesn't wanna put anything on screen that isn't beautiful. So even if the joke is supposed to be this house's inconvenient and small. It looks too. Nice. It's so perfectly art directed. And also, I mean if I can actually you want me to weigh. I mean, it's it's setting golden like, God, lemming domain. I can never pronounce the name talent number go onto. Yeah. This is like one of the richest towns in Britain. There is no way that either of them could live there. I family that has to be telegraphed. We're a mansion no fucking way. Also Hershey from London. It would be an hour's train ride till like Waterloo mean it would be. Jewel. Can't figure out. Yeah. She doesn't mini Cooper drives that would be a pain, but she certainly has to drive down her like fourteen mile fucking road to the Shire that you have to go down every time just to get her maybe so depressing lonely because she lives so far away from any other person. I never can beat anyone because I live in more door for someone who works in the city at a big paper. It's weird that she lives in someone's like weekend home. She lose in. What is sort of dressed up as a weekend? Right. Like, you probably I mean. Lifestyle's designed around how nice it is to be alone. And then she's like, I'm so sad. And she tries. Let's talk about it to Sylvia Plath or so. Minutes into the movie, and Dr David this is a great at this point talking about Kate winslet's attempted suicide by oven. This is a great point to transition to a regular feature. We do during this miniseries in which we cut to my sister Romley Newman to report on the kitchens of Nancy Meyers movies here. Piggybacking off of a suicide attempt is rumbling Newman's kitchen corner. Welcome to Romney's kitchen Kona and here is your host miss Romney Newman in her kitchen. Hi, I'm reporting from a kitchen and today, I'm talking about two kitchens. I just came and Diaz is which is exactly what a hidden a kitchen. But I think is so amazing. And I love it. And I wanna live there and cooking it it's very LA. Modern very sleek that flake counter top it huge. I mean, it's an ungodly size for kitchen, but it's really nice. And it looks kind of straight out of the restoration hardware catalog and has these dark tiled floors huge table in the middle. That's light would and a lot of black cabinets and a lot of light. But it's I would love I would love to cook in that kitchen, and then I give Nancy credit for Kate winslet's kitchen because it's fairly realistic. And I'm proud of her for not sticking in like an incredibly fancy stove or a sub zero refrigerator into Surrey kitchen because that just wouldn't happen. Is that her best kitchen? Absolutely not. But is it a charming kitchen? Thank you. Good. All replying says are way too nice. Like when Cameron Diaz is like fumbling and frustrated with the coffee machine that's a two hundred and fifty dollars. Also, why does a rich LA person not know how to use like a coffee machine she has. Swore krinsky. He does it all he makes the coffee to maybe haunt does the call. She's on coffee. He's gotta had been on C. Now, she serious. It's so good. I'll tell like watching this movie not in this. You know? General. Yeah. The watching this movie, I get frustrated that like Nancy Meyers role slowed down because she could make a hun- movie now, maybe, but she loves to work movie star feels like she should have gone to make feels like she definitely should've gotten to make a movie if Krinsky was probably next in line. Winding winding its complicated role in which of course, he is absolutely devastatingly. Good. And we'll talk about it is comic relief. You want him to be romantic lead in one of these movies, or at least romantic prospect, right? And instead, he became the director of a horror film in Jack. Ryan, right. But he had his couple of like did the big miracle berry more, and he did watch McCall it something borrow he's the friend in that too. He's the comedy, right? But he signed on for that. Because the sequel he was supposed to look at like ski never got the big rom com that ever wanted him to come right? So you to watch this. And being like, we were so close to her probably knowing how to do it right anyway tries to suicide or self with an oven interrupted by phone. One of my thinking. Costly he's interrupted by an IM. She's wrote about Hagrid coming or whatever. The because she's had a listing up for. Five comedy. She's had a listing drinks online to try to rent her house for a long time. Right. Oh, let me live in this like this fabulous. Like, this is a great getaway. And Cameron Diaz is like what's up? Can I stay in your house? It's a house web. Cool. When can you leave right now? Are there any men though? No. And then it's like exclamation point. Exclamation point. Exclamation point. They hate men. They hate men for anyone away on men among us not tried to take vacation to get away from men. Yeah. That's that's why I'm going to miss scar. This Christmas, right? Joke about the twenty seventeen picture wonder woman, say Thema scorer. Linda of Amazonian women think Nancy could work with gal. Does he watching these movies? Don't you get frustrated going like who are all the big movie stars that Nancy didn't get to work with or isn't getting to work with now? Wouldn't you love to see a gal and Krinsky Rahm come come on? Chris pine. This brewing thought, and I was like this is going to be good. Yeah. I know she'd be yeah. Honestly, she'd probably be good with any of the Chris's gave her a Chris. I say this in our next episode. Maybe she Pratt. Pratt old Pratt like former. It wasn't guardians of the galaxy. We only got the solar system. Sorry. I think I say this. And my day. We had MC you phase one today. We have him. See you phrased three phrase three and my day. You'll phase was only five pictures. Now. It's twelve pictures. Okay. I was going to say is I say this in our it's complicated episode. But it feels like Jennifer Lawrence is someone who really needs a Nancy Meyers movie. Sure. I mean, I feel like she needs something a little lighter and lighter as needs look at my best friend's wedding. It's something maybe where she plays someone who is her age, right? No wedding kinda save Jay walk in this movie. This is when she first she went straight from the Bill. I'm bulk show to play me LA wiling. I Oscar it didn't work out. And then Tim did direct winter's bone. We should point that out. Yes. She did. What if she had? All the kitchen, sparkling wine. So this house is come on. Let's get back to the plot of the holiday. Yeah. So they've sought houses, and k Winslet is overjoyed and cameras miserable. Right. During one book for five minutes, instead drinks, like four bottles of wine gets shift face camera gets drunk on his movie, but we don't really see it. It's like referred to write like, there's a scene. That's not in this film where she gets like blackout. Yeah. Right. And like they kind of talk around like what? During that moment. She horrified that her bras on a chair. It's like it's her own bra, and she's literally already had sex with them. It's not like that reaction is so crazy. She's brock. Yes. This movie. Also does this weird thing? She's they're drunk miserable. Planning to fly home the next morning. She hates it so much. She books return fight. Right. She tries driving into town and can't deal with the road. She's on the wrong side that she had to walk all that way. Because the guy dropped her off course lettuce. She's got a LA, right? Yeah. This feels like new in town bullshit where it's like the Renee Zellweger moving guests where it's like this fancy lady isn't used to living and such a podunk little town. Sure. Once again, it's also like Dilip, it's snow White's cottage like just again the most obvious complaint. It never snows that much in England in the south of England ever, which this movie has I mean? I mean love actually pulls English ruse, which in this movie as I think maybe hinted up in other episodes had a twenty million dollar CGI budget because they see all the snow. Impossible 'cause they shot they shot it in one of those. I think it was. I think it was a good Dowling, whoever you fucking say it, but you know, what exists fake snow, but I mean, they have to coat like whole like towns in the white Christmas. Look at the history of movies with snow. Those are stage movies like I'm assuming the town was like yet. You're not dumping snow all over this town for a week Nancy like we're letting you film here. But like twenty million dollars g I? What's the snow? The other ten million was digital touch on the actors faces which at the time was extended ear lobes. Droop. Here. At the time that was seen as insane. And now like. He does that just make them hot. Yes. Everyone looks a little plastic. Yeah. A little burnished like they've just had a spit shine. They do a little funny, especially Cameron, Jude. Brush them you just kind of a SU people look like that. Maybe maybe that's why they're all ready in their weird like, plastic, right? But do you look over blackout DS part? I we don't have to switch that he shows up while she's listening to Mr. bright side, just watched out to the killers. Right singing, very badly to herself. This is another Nancy Meyers movie where she get has a soundtrack where she's just like what are the hits? Because like something's gotta give begins with butterfly. We've talked about. Which is crazy. Yeah. I don't disagree. That's all it was like four years old point. But anyway, yeah, she walks up to the killers. If there's another hiding. Yeah, she plays hot in here. Right. There's jets. Oh, that's what is what is it called? Oh, my way. Jack. Yeah. Jude law shows up shit faced I guess, it's normal. What seems fine sit down. I'm so drawn fine Griffin. After one Mike hard limited. Hey, look, I hold my mic. Hold my mic. When I get hard. I stay heart. Cut it out to keep it in and double. The best piece what I was gonna say she lost shows up blackout drunk so drunk am. I so drunk that. I think you're my sister. Sure. She's like, no, your sister left and didn't tell anybody. He did say he says she tried to call. She tried to call any ignored the call. Okay. A minute later. They fuck okay. Okay. For a while. Pretty deranged conversation. That's insane. Rage our flogger than that. It's long. They talk on the couch. She does I mean, this comes up in other Nancy movies in Iran comes in general, but Cameron does my favorite delivery of romantically. Just stating the circumstances of what's happening where she's just like. Okay. So I'm in this house temporarily and you show about an hour. And I'm like, I know. A lot of procedural recapping. This is my take on this movie. Is that Cameron Diaz is a sensually written as one of the what women want characters except all her internal monologue stuff is said. Mckee trying to figure out where she's gonna holiday. She's like, I got it holiday. Let me look no too far to keep them. Keeping everything out loud that she searching for on the computer at all tracks because her character's film is psycho. Like a movie trailer editor starts having nightmare fantasy sequences where he's a trailer. All Douglas that would be a regular part of her life at this point, his voice would just have like insipid, inter brain. Right. But she. Yeah. Basically says yeah, I'm horrible in bed. Do you wanna fuck? Yeah. She says she is overrated, which is a line that I heard as a fifteen year old not fully understanding. Character is insane. That's meant as a joke. I'm like, okay. She's hot and four. Must be four place. I keep this in line for when I'm less busy with extracurriculars and finally having sex, and I really think that line damaged me for five to six years. So interesting to statements. She says so close to each other. That are totally unrelated one is that four plays dramatically overrated, the other one is that all of her ex's say that she's bad. I wonder if there's any. I mean, I'm just trying to figure out anyway, just like you're so interesting. What's going on? But what we don't know. But we'll essentially like this is Jude's weekend away from the kids his grandparents, so he's basically like look. This is fine. You're not my sister, gray, let smash in his sister's bed. I assume or the. Yeah. Later. Okay. Maybe not this. Bed. This feels like Nancy's idea was friend. Brendan like this will have the movie feels to me like Nancy's big idea was what if I do a rom calm relationship in rivers where they fucked the first time. And then like it builds up to them having the intimacy to have a conversation. Hold hands. Cameron's problem is that whatever she's insane. And problem is like. From his daddy. Daddy. So he hasn't had time to like be with adults cookbooks for goodness. And he has a cow shoes Christ. Yeah. He has two children who are clearly competent enough to run a business together. I don't think you really needs to be there at all. They're fine. Right. He's almost entirely superfluous he's bringing napkin head, but that's about it doesn't want her to know that he has kids because he doesn't feel like the two halves of his life are compatible shirt deal. So he spends the first half of the movie being weird when girls text him, which is supposed to be a red herring. That maybe he has the names that Livia and so- fee. Right. And she's like, oh, I'm sorry. I looked both times that his cellphone right day where yourself would have that little window that just would put like a name keeps on walking away from conversations to have phone calls. And then you find out. No, he's daddy. He's daddy. She staying she cancels her flights before the daddy. They go on that. We're day. They go on their lunch. What's your deal? What the fuck where did you go to college? Where do you go to high school? How? Chemistry in that same thing. I would agree with that. I think Judas doing a little more than her in terms of bringing the chemistry. Like, yeah. Bring it to joining out that she's a psychopath. You know, he's like you're really interrogating away. That's nice like he's like, I'm nervous. Right. Right. Right. It's very he's so good. He's going like, I'm a book editor, I studied literature in college. And she's like all I come from a seven I was born in writer on my planet. The ritual is you have to fight the nookie beast for dominance. Yeah. 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Hardy's character actually is kind of a Bernie. He's like homeless problem merica, it's like sort of deal. Asking questions Lou homeless people. Venom is Tom hardy because you've seen van. You're living in a post memorial not living in a premium world is Tom hardy gonna win my blink this year. You might make the list. I don't think he's gonna win. You never know. With me though. It's a magnetic performance. That's all I'll say I want you to see it. It's very you might hate it. I think I'm gonna love that performance. It's it's my thing watching movies like I can't say this is a bad performance because I am. So I want more of it. I'm so entertaining favorite kind of even if like, maybe if you're like, but a person would never behave this way under any circumstances. I don't care how crazy you're like. Yeah. But I just wanna see him doing like, you know. I don't care like gimme that. This is this is. This has been spoiled for me. But by the time comes. I've heard about the big set piece in the movie. So is the fifteen minutes sequence where venom plays Hackey sack Claude as epic. Majesty a little squishy, but they flubber hacky sack. I'm just a little frustrated. They're saving alternate frisbee for the sequel. Because if that's where venoms really gonna pop I actually can't wait to see him to whatever it is. Come with me. So iris named after dude laws daughter where isn't that? Nice. Oh. This weird. Well for me. It's nice original Livia now irises Kate Winslet, right? Sophie, iris, the grownup is named after Jude law is a real daughter iris law. Oh that I didn't Jimmy. That's fucking weird. I know. Well, do you think that was like a contractual obligations you law? I will sign on Nancy just had the make lists of ten of girls names. I'll throw improvident something kind of nice Easter egg for the future. Peter Serafinowicz named to characters after his children on the tech this season really characters. They are like characters who will be special effects. Okay. So thing one and thing to situa-. So he could kind of like, whatever. Interesting. But it's really nice because there's a group of creatures in the season, and he named to the creatures after his kids and constantly would refer back to them. I love creatures which like that makes sense. If it's like, I'm an actor. I'm going to do a little tribute to my kids, whereas like Kate Winslet as a creature, right? And they're like, yeah. You're just named after Jude law's kids, even though you don't really have scenes, but you law until the very end of the movie. So Kate Winslet. What she loves the curtains loves those by co curtains with a button watches punch drunk. Love swims laps swim. Swims comes by to pick up some stuff at burns his stuff. Right. Susman's in them. Yes. It's an eyelash for face because the winds talks about the Santa Ana winds with her is so fucking charming. Absolutely. Not hard worst. Good. Not so sweet potato. He he's like shuttering Lee. Nice where I'm like. Oh my God. You fucking. I think like loser. The only movie he seems like a real human being. I totally disagree. Is location? Ed burns is also a composer. I guess so. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I tell they met. I don't know that they have composed together something. Yeah. I have like a big gripe. I strongly dislike movies in which the characters work in the film industry that aren't about the film at the strict because it always strikes me as a lack of creativity of like going to write like all my friends do like the movie doesn't have anything to say about the film industry. Talks about movie scores for twenty that. He's an XBox says a lot and cone does tell us a lot about the film industry. He does opening weekend. Yeah. He no. He makes very very selye points that literally any five year old you stopped on the street would be able to me movies are long. Sometimes movies are too loud. No and the cared. This guy such an expert on film scores. Such a kinda sorta Marconi he likes the jaws theme crafts the mission on Zimmer. That's the one weird pick everything. Have a great famous crony again. Right. Shut up. Shut up. Frame has been taken over by. Food. It's Fram is. Which is now been published and if this is nothing. Get the fuck out. Your lead is the venoms first word in the movie is food. That's always a true today last week say food, please. Not bad food now. Go ahead. She swims Jack buck. He's an absolute creep burglars. He feels like someone who's like. This is what normal people are like, right. But it took the q. Coach fuck up about skorts, say squeezing his art. He loves the macaroni. He says and his little crazy. Jack luck way, we goes, Michael runes, Arthur. Tended. The good notes. Arthur. Want you to say what the good nuts are shirt d? Hey, hey, right. Yeah. Okay. Sure. Yeah. You're the classical friend come on. What's the best note? See I had a good one. Okay. Jack black. Yeah. But he's not in the movie much to be clear, certainly until right at the end, he has a girlfriend until one one hour and forty minutes into so most of the first. Is that rather than like, I dunno go to fucking the tar pits or something? She just stays in the house, basically. Sheaves you in a car seat while on the side of the road, and he lives in like, the, you know, the sag museum or something. When she sees the Oscar at his house, she gets the idea to be in the reader. Yeah. He's got an Oscar on a mantle and she just like talks about the movies. And right. Right. And here's your mail, and he's like six more lifetime achievement or I don't want any ship a lot of movies like this. It's like this fucking industry full liars. I don't care I've been burned by them. I don't wanna get. No, literally when I was watching it this time confide conflict the studio sixty thing that too it's going to turn out. He was like a blacklisted right right now. Remember the reason why he keeps on turning down? These tributes is because he doesn't want to walk to accept the award. He struggles with stairs. And I mean, he thinks like now a lot of people come I guess he thinks a washed up. Oh, phony like me who is only Shelley Berman will be talking about acid. He's he is David just to give credit Credit's due. He's the man who wrote the kid in. Here's looking at you kid, right? That was a was a note by me, and they tweeted at Joe banquets or whatever they can't the Oscar for that for the kid best supporting kid. Forgot about that lime. Bet line is annoying. He says he wrote the kid, do you think it's weird that avows writer, doesn't know the phrase meet cute. Yes. But inning when that is not afraid the defense, you something I wrote down for him to say because it's mostly around. Come to be like, this is on meet cute. Yeah. I don't mind for some reason the stuff is actually two easiest to take me because he's good. He's good actor. But I just find his performances he offers the most surface level analysis of how Rahm comes or written every time she treats it like it's like Siddhartha coming back like unbelievable. So you're seeing the two people meet in romantic comedies like each other therapy for seventy four years. That's the first time. Anyone has said something that really? Bear therapist, fucking sucks. Terrible therapy. I want to switch back because actually my favorite line in the movie and possibly my favorite. Nancy Meyers line ever is said by Jude law. Is it? I'm a major waiver. That's definitely something. No, it's when he when he asked her out to go to lunch, and she's like why? And he says 'cause I I'm running out of reasons why we shouldn't which is such a perfect rom com line. So Nancy Meyers, and it's so so fits like what's happening with them where it's like. Well, we keep liking each other in these conversations we have like why shouldn't we go on a date? I love that line. Right. The ideas that like okay heads away for the weekend both of them just this as a fling laying keep on not being able to get close. Smash if you have time to keep having sex. Why not keep that are? They're always like not justifying it just only have sex is the holiday ten days. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe two weeks tops because he says these last couple of weeks at some point the very weird thing where I night, they meet they fuck second night. She gets blackout drunk doesn't sleep with women who are unconscious. She loves that about him. Yeah. You sleep on the couch. Brag. Then on there, and she leaves her bra and a chair, right? So obviously he reports to the local vicar on there. I'm going to tell the story. Oh what what's the story? Do you leave your broader chair? No, no, no. I'm just I'm removing all names from it. I have a friend who. Like. Had a one night stand with someone. She worked with as sort of like a supervisor position. Right. And he was like an awkward guy. And she was like is this going to be really weird in the office now that we've slept together, and we have to work together. And we're obviously not going to date, and he's not a guy who's very comfortable to begin with. And he called her into his office. And she was like what's this going to be? And he like very like methodically. Like went to his filing cabinet and pulled it open and took out a Manila envelope. And she was like what's this? She opened it, and it was her bra that she had left at this point. And he only knew how to deal with it as a supervisor where it's like, here's your new assignment. But I love the image fos opening up a filing cabinet handing-over label bras, right? And then it was just very awkwardly. Like, here's here Braun business holder and here it is March fourteenth. Okay. Here we go. The thing. I was gonna say because I just was becoming assessment the first night. Fuck second night. She's blackout. Right. He sleeps downstairs on the couch. I believe is the implication then on their first. In the first proper date. He says we've already slept together twice. So he said we've had sex once we've slept twice. That's what he says later in the movie. Oh, so at first he just says we've slept together twice and waits. Maybe in the bed with it. The third time we slept together twice and fucked once fucked he said we had sex once. So he's counting the fact that they slept under the same roof when she was passed out as slept together. Which is an odd thing to say, right? Yeah. I don't know. I guess so I think the implication, right? Maybe he slept next to her, right? Yeah. That's just what I assumed. It's more that she blush. Oh my God. Unbelievable. Right. She does that a lot. Yeah. Where are you talking out? And then he also says the thing like whoever your ex was he was eighty I couldn't disagree with him more strongly sex, very gentlemanly sex is fine. I don't know. Why is she good at sex again? Or are we to believe that she was never bad in the first place, that's sort of what Nancy leaves unresolved. I think people just are not allowed to have bad Sexton anti Myers movie. Like, that's just not. Doesn't motions. And she hates foreplay, probably the most maybe. When he was like, we could try a little for. Okay. I mean, I guess so I think it's overrated. Back in Hollywood, like she spending all this time with ally wallet trying to teach them how to walk again, also like going out on dinner dates with him. She fucking is basically a physical therapy isn't she supposed meanwhile, tormenting her pages of his books island? She sends Nokia blackberry message being like, please leave me alone. He calls her is like guess rang. You. Yeah. Right. He sends the notes and he shows up. I don't know. Which is insane. I wanted to have a little box. There's a condom insiders. The worst gesture like shows up on Christmas Eve, India's fiance awful so much fun. So much fun to hate him than any other ones in love. Actually. I think. Yeah. I mean, right. I mean, he has he sucks. Jasper he's he is as I said when watching a shit the English would call shit, but this whole points Jack black like shows up for like thirty seconds stretches occasionally be like here's your FedEx removed. Removed and celebrate Hanukkah, right? You celebrate Hanukkah with. And they have a nice dinner with the old Jews. And he's like that was great then Shannyn Sossamon calls from blockbuster or no, no, no. She gets a call from her. She's she's in. That's what he said. In New Mexico, filming an indie movie idea what she's with me. She's in New Mexico working on a little indie. The normal character. And then yeah, she turns out she's been cheating on him. And then right? They go to blockbuster. And that's where it doesn't calls up and says, hey, can we do the thing that normal people do on Christmas Eve night, which is good a blockbuster and just riff on the movie boxes refund. The scores of the movies in the movie about you know, the story about the dozen hall. Yeah, he was just going to blockbuster literally walking down the street, and they were like can you come in and do one shot? Yeah. I didn't he saw all the lights and it was like. Some movie he's terrific six million is kind of the sex. And right. So Jack blacks in the middle of one of his manic episodes graduate. Mrs robinson. Mrs ripple. Sees him in weirdly does not kill him execution style. Could you imagine being any other customer at the blockbuster? All this is going on. And being like, this guy think he's that funny to leave. He's a projecting album or women scatter tainting this canning chariots of fire. Other one right? And then right? He's like stage the game. Yeah. He does the driving mistake. That's his Hans beam is a big departure for Hans. But that was before. Score was what people thought was when he did like brave ship people were like, oh, this is a big departure. That's okay. But when he started doing kicks. Yes. That was really the one that changed. His only is only Oskar very strange, maybe this is normal behavior. What do you think you would one fourth us here? I'm making it up says even have anything this year. He must have something. He did like the boss baby. And j he'll he'll do show. Like that where you're like. Oh, right. Small foot. Did he do small foot? Maybe. Yeah. So they're just like hanging out together. Sometimes because he apparently has no other friends Nelly. Just by the fact that he lives there in his friends with that burns burns doesn't pop up you'd think at burns be like, right? Yeah. And Jack black would be like, yeah. Your ex girlfriend is insane. Right. Seize Shannyn Sossamon realizes she was only for two days. She looked up the weather. We does score this year. Okay. That's it. Okay. The weather. She looked at the weather on whether dot com and order to be able to lie accurately. This script does contain the phrase whether dot com extra prison all the way to Mexico. I know someone who's done this done a location line not in a relationship, but like a location that included looking up before cast. Yeah. I'm doing a lot of stories where I'm not saying people's names, but I have a friend who was dating someone casually they'd gone on a couple dates, and she let everyone believed that she died in the sooner me and like two thousand four okay dark and then like he ran into her. And she was like, yeah. I just need a fresh start. I'm sorry. I never called back. Great. Then I don't know Jack black what the fuck they don't even talk about. Should we go back to Cameron? We should talk about daddy. Yeah. He is daddy because that's also Christmas Eve. I know. All right. He's daddy. Daddy, puts on the napkin head it's Cameron's movie. Like, no one has Christmas Eve plans like especially like father, two young children under the tree in England. Christmas is very depressing. It's a terrible terrible time. You have no idea what you're talking shut because everything's closed and everyone goes to their families. Like, there's no if you're alone on Christmas in England. It's brutal Christmas. Well, you know, he's spread a little thin. But sure he's around two young girls you'd wanna make it special for them. I know the reveal of this movie, basically, it's like, you know, law that super handsome nice man, you've been having sex with it turns out. He's great. That's sort of. Yeah. Even better than before. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. He's got two little daughters who are so Sweden Bosse. Nice. Are so cute and everything. Perfect cherubs that like eight. When they invite her to the tent, and she's like, I don't think I should go to tents, and she's like, you don't like tense. Oh. A big ten. I feel like got a big time small British children, especially small British child actors always say things in the same meter, which I find like unbearably heartbreaking. Sure, which is like d don't won't to decorate the tree, you know. It's always. You know, it's always does. You can't access the umbrella. Computers, creepy children. Yes. They're really cute. They love Mr. napkin ahead. Miss napkin heads pretty cool. He's really good bit. He puts glasses on over napkin napkin mouth. That's that's that's what really. Do you smoke? So he's cool. Smokes a spoon. Yeah. And then says smoking's not cool to his daughters, but we know as adult viewers that smoking is cool true keeps going on his face for a full two minutes. For too hard. I turn to my she's never felt joy before I turn to my girlfriend back and. I said it's like you said Hala brag like you're bragging about a particularly good read. Okay. I turned to her. And I said, oh, I forgot to tell you. This is the remaining forty five minutes of the movie is just him doing HBO comedy special as Mr. napkin, sure, it's a bit. Yeah. Well, I own her five points or something else in our even. But but yeah, then he like she's like, why didn't you tell me about the napkin head, right? That's terry. I'm still shopping. Hitting one brothers are interest. I don't know they have a first look development deal. But I wanna get something on the air. And like I'm trying to pry it free because Marty had expressed, you know, but he wants to bring it over to paramount based on the comedy stylings of napkin. Right. They're doing a tour, maybe and filming it. Yeah. That's it. He has a cow. And he says all this warring. Okay. You don't like it. I like the daughters the daughters so nice to each other movies like idiosyncratic again. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. I don't I like this part of the movie better Kate, Jack the Cape. So that feels more individualistic that feels a little both of you are right and wrong. Your and bets argument. Yeah. Yeah. I mean back kids side, you know, he realizes things are over which awesome. And then they go out to sushi and feels like they're about to fuck. And then she calls him and apologizes. I guess so. Right. Yeah. Accidental boob. Grays also was used in the trailers allot grays. The one joke. He has in the move or all it a joke. She should she should call the police. That's what she should do. I keep telling everyone this call. Yeah. And then like, they're they're planning while big while celebration, he's gonna two thousand six exactly and Jack buck supposed to do the music and he's like I'm gonna be late. Home again, which you haven't seen yet. Right. Literally has the exact same ending. It's crazy. But anyway, with whom you'll see okay. I was gonna say it's it's very weird that it's like they hired Jack black to write and original score for the walk for a lifetime achievement award. It's all we're full work where you can get work. That's sort of the business. We don't know how successful right? Like, I love in forgetting Sarah Marshall, that's Jason Segel's job. But he just works for us. I like that moment where he's just like for boating for right? And you know, the Kennedy is has made the most successful trailer of all time for the Lindsay. Lohan Nancy calling in an old friend. Yeah. Lindsay. Yeah. Another person who could have used another Nancy. Yeah. She kidnaps children off the streets of Russia or something like, whatever. She's that's the worst movie of twenty eight. Good. Let's the Arthur theme slaps. Yes lab. Yeah. If you're gonna. Slaps for it. Better. Yeah. This is all fine. It's just like all of this. And then if the like, then when does he kiss Kate Winslet at the very end he shows up at the last second once ally, Alex on this movie is barris by their relationship and won't let them have. And so like, he's finally like he kisses her basically polish is is like comes in his pants. It's pathetic little fist. A regular man in the movies. Just like, yeah. So they got together to even the despite having zero chemistry whatsoever point there. I mean, I was waiting for the bus that out. But does argue all these people are getting together with their rebounds. Because it's just like one person who was nice to them after they were sad. Correct. And sort of is making I don't know a little bit of a cautionary tale for some degree. Then Cameron Lee, then we do see them a year later, and they all look great year later, you see them days later. That's right. Right. Right. Right. In a year. They're also together and happy like the end of Harry Potter to. Maybe they all go on holiday together. Doing. I wanna know does it. Hold up without Eli wall. You can't do a holiday to allies gone now who else will tell us what movies used to be like, right? Some some all they're gonna run into Clinton's terminable Rony, right? Some nineties rally back in my day movies cost sixty million dollars. Now, they cost eighty million. I would be I would be into and Clint. Together. Let's do that. I read something really upsetting. I've course in the past on this podcast talked about my most anticipated movie of twenty eight teen. I got drugs in my book, of course. And then reticent ops of it recently because they announced the release date, and it sounds like he doesn't traffic the drugs in his. But he just puts him in the back seat of his car. God damn it. No mule. I wanted a ninety one year old Clint Eastwood is a physical drug mule movie at least swallowing a couple of condoms cocaine. Sound like it's just like they're going in the back seat where they belong, but isn't the movie about like the big government took away my ObamaCare? So I got I gotta make some money. Isn't that what I thought? Shit apparently the premises. Someone offers him money just to drive a car. Okay. And he's like fine. I'll Dr driving, and it isn't until a couple of successful traffickings that he realizes what he's doing. But it's from the screenwriter of grand jury. No. That's where I'm like. Hello coop. Is in it, Bradley Cooper Dianne Wiest? Michael pain, Laurence Fishburne. I mean that cast hell else. Yes. It does. Yeah. Ninety year old drug meal was a real person who's originally enter directed whom Ruben Fleischer, really. Yep. It's crazy to think that project. I mean, just kind of floated away from him like a turt- in the wind. Fettuccini I'm trying to think of a holiday fit Achidi. I. Yeah. Let's have a fit when he says Hoste when he says holiday fettuccini I picture him bringing out a bowl of fettuccini. That's green and red like I picture like Christmas color pasta. Oh, sure. You could you know, spinach, pasta and all that right? Do you think Boba fett finishing toy Boba fett likes? What's the joke here? But. But. Everyone leave. Sanding possible way. Two hours holiday. I have all kinds of thoughts. We didn't get way in Ben. All right. He has a text. Doesn't know how to work the coffee machine like a preposterous way your robot point, not plugged in. And I just I just kept picturing other things she would be able to do the next morning. She just screams at the sink because she's thirsty. Like, it's just insane. Montage. She's just throwing fried Pez at the stove. Jeez. And with her exploding. What else he got long expo-? Okay. I have a a note here. This little blazer is dope. That's the blazer that he would he shows up drunk. Good his shirt. He is a snack. He's real snack. Complaining of. Can I tell you what my brain? Last thing. I'm baking a request for fans if they could do this for me, there's a part where we've mentioned jet. Are you going to be my girl? She rocks out like the lease like release rock inside. It's overdubbed mayhem or cannibal corpse or like a black flag song. I wanna see a of that with some real hard core. Some grind core. What do you got? What do you got some speed metal? I would love to see that be that is one of those sequences that. So clearly was written without them. Having picked us totally insane. No one ever dances and movies where she just flails her fifth round. And then pretends that the pillow is a guitar. And it's to know beat. It's just like a dance that could be placed over or any this, right? You making the truck at twenty teen. Made me realize the only job I want right now like literally my dream job. And I'm gonna like on the record call that this for twenty nineteen. I would like to be the person who comes up with the names for all the food items at. Disney Star Wars land. Sure, all the puns all the punt dang garden salad. Anything else? He's thinking, folks. Potato stew buckle. Sure. Cheney. Anything spend the OB one canot beer garden. Okay. More of a location. I mean, that's what we call it. Then on the list just be right? The only other is that the end, and I guess we're not there yet. I don't know where this is that that party scene is so Matic and insane. I've never seen Jamie children over there. Just adding it's so all over the place. So love it. What's the Jude law cameras relationship going to be moving where they can both do their jobs from the Jack black Winslet relations says he'll go to England. Okay. Everyone in this job in this in this movie except for Kate Winslet can do their job from home. Yes. So yeah. It's not that much of a crisis. They're all fine. Yeah. I think it's going to end up as everyone's gotta be in England because Jews got the kids. So he's sort of got that Trump card can't move the kit. Yeah. And Jack move to the cottage. I don't like he's sort of hobbit size fitting there he is this. We what's your problem Griffin? Now. This movie to me, it's. It's lacking in conflict. I d- as Jude law side of things is pretty much liking conflict. But I don't find charming because I feel like they're so hostile defensive the whole time and the black Winslet stuff I like, but that's essentially a subplot to a subplot because this movie is like sixty five percent camera Di as thirty five percents Kate Winslet, and then Kate winslet's arc is like sixty five percent Wallich. Right. Thirty five should mention. He goes to his book and thing and everyone's there, and it's nice, and they all walks up. The fucking stairs in the delivers a four hour screed on like. Yeah. In his day. Mussolini was in charge of Lear whatever it is he talks right, which it's not even that they're giving him the lifetime achievement award ceremony. It's a tribute just to him just an evening, which he's been rejecting year. And then from the moment Kate Winslet shows up and finds the letter it's organized within six days. Yeah. Just an evening. What you've you don't think people go to these things miss eve WJ west ovens? This just feels like a movie that was written by. John's no written by Nancy Meyers. But it doesn't feel great movie grossed can I go ahead. I have one more story about a viewing of this movie. Police which is that the last time I watched this before we watching this time was in winter of two thousand sixteen because I wrote a bright will dark room piece about this movie. Really, I did defending it aggressively. But I watched it with friends around the holidays, and we were watching at my friend's place and said friend was had just started dating someone who was younger and not like problematic younger, but younger enough that we all sort of like eyebrows up and said younger personnel. So had a younger roommate who had tagged along. Okay. Who I'd been warned was the worst. So we had to sit around and like entertained drinks for like thirty minutes before starting the movie two minutes before we start the movie said worst roommate knocks over an entire bottle of wine red wine. So we have to clean that up. Read read one we sit down to watch you before you're really. Really off the leash. Yes. He is. On fan. We sit down to start the movie, that's. Let me say my piece. Start the movie we get forty five seconds into Kate winslet's like opening monologue. And this guy stands up and he's like. I forgot hate movies. And leaves I forgot I hate movies. The craziest thing I. Win. And then he got in a pod and flew to Melbourne. Insane. The only interaction I've had in my whole life with this person sounds great deeply fascinated by that sentence. I don't wanna do this anymore. I gotta go. All right. We've all been waiting for that. Then forgot that. He hates podcasts. Am I correct in thinking movie ended up at like forty five? No better than that. It made sixty three million dollars supplied. Okay. Writing was only twelve. Half of her more. She's only made six movies now. And it's it's four now. Okay. Right. Complicates someone's go and what women want cruise past one hundred one is one eighty two something is one twenty four. It's complicated. It was one twelve intern with seventy five so this is her fifth actually six six it made less than the parent trip. This film grossing film, it costs a little classic, right? Yeah. Real time. And in the rough it was two hours and waiting for them to release the Snyder cut everything that doesn't make sense in this movie is because we don't get to see this. The only problem is that it's not four hours. Exactly do very well overseas, though, coast one hundred and forty one million dollars. So may two hundred and five million worldwide, which is pretty healthy it opened on December eighth two thousand and six in the number three position. Number one, though is a movie Benghazi loves starring a directed by a former Nancy Meyer star. Well, you want me love is moving. I believe it's on the podcast. Directed by a former oh, I believe I told you I love this. Maybe apocalyptic. Fox. Yeah. No Gibson never seen scary. I don't like how he's like trying to be like. Going to save these savages from them. Yeah. No problem milk. I read the ending that move very differently. And maybe I'm giving him too much credit because Lord knows he probably has a bad take on everything. But I always thought the end of that movie was like look at this guy fighting so hard to save his life, and he makes it back home. And it doesn't matter. Because now his land is going to be calling us like it was all for not going to be destroyed. Anyway, so weird focus I thought it was like a very cynical ending not alike. Hey, let us get in there and clean up this mess. And I it's the only of his I like I like all his very basic opinion of mine Braveheart rules. Hacksaw Ridge is name with fast. Yeah. I think I'm sure that was fine. I think it is pretty dumb Hex ridge is the one that's the worst. Passion of the Christ is what it is is pretty good. It's ever told. I think I've told this other pug us like. Family friend who was from Iraq was not a Christian and was so not crucially he was just not and he called up and he said heard about this. They really beat the shit. This. I just remember I don't remember if we did this on my it was just a thing we talked about. But after the Star Wars episodes when we were like, how do we replicate? This is there like another franchise. We could talk about without context. He only good idea was what if we did passion of Christ. But pretend the bible. And he plays a Jesus he does play Jesus. Yes. That's right. Number two is a film Griffin. Probably loves is a huge hit an animated film at won the Oscar happy happy. Oh, really? I love very bizarre. I really like the first thirty minutes. I like it when he's little I think that when when the movie's just going to dance oh here. Yeah. When he grows up. It's scary. Yeah. That it's weird. Miller half live action at the end very when he's in the museum. Museum. That's right. Film that made an insane amount of money the war weekends in. It's still number two. I think have been number one three weeks in casino royale three weeks in a row. It was like the made like the same amount of money. It was just like always a little bit above it yet. But it's a movie that allows George Miller to make fury casino rows number four. Okay. And number five is a. So like. Describe this movie. I describe it like a big kind of an action movie, but like sort of a socially aware Siri on. Lead. Actress doing an accent Oscar nominee. It's not good. Is it? Yeah. Blood diamond movie. I've still never I've never seen any oh, not the worst. But dot good. Not a very big head. Well, Fifty-seven did. Okay. But it God bunch of Oscar nominee five. Yeah. That's crazy. We once had a very big fight over whether or not that movie had made one hundred million Kosta hundred million, right? Yes. But no it didn't. But you know, I think because of the I guess kind of qualifies as a hip. Yeah. Did well worldwide people use that movie as a joke when they wanna make jokes about like serious. Yeah. Because it's a lot of crying. Right. I guess haunts who's good in that. Right. I like him. I love him as an actor. He does a lot of screaming and crying. It's a pretty one of interest for him and Zam playing a wizard. I'm so excited from to return to the marvel cinematic universe. I'm so into cow to mobile brings back two of the most disrespected characters in the country's again Corre, right? I was getting confused with Malki keep he's disrespected to. I'd love him to pup back. Yeah. Darko right. But no Lee pace is also run in the. Running kidding. He's back. Yeah. That's great for him. I love ruining the accuser. I think he's disrespected as I said. Yeah, I think he rolls. He's awesome. Maybe we'll talk about it. I accused him of being undervalued within this. Then you've also got deja vu fun, Denzel movie. Oh, yeah. Time travel deja-vu was weirdly, the biggest spec script sale of all time in the movie kind of didn't make much of an impact. But that script got sold for like ten million dollars cool. Unaccompanied minors. The Paul Fieger movie that doesn't exist is based on this American life segment. Yeah. Weird is they're just an airport. It's like the terminal but just for what nights kit terminal, right, right? It's kids who are unaccompanied minors flying alone and the flights get canceled because of a snowstorm and they're all stuck Christmas night, which is like kind of like a funny like little slice alive. This American life segment about a bunch of kids who had to spend Christmas together as we're latchkey children airport and everybody hates Chris. I know, and that's the movie he wanted to make and then Warner Brothers turned it into like a hijinks movie where they're trying to prank the security guards who's or Valda Rowen Lewis black. It's kind of weird cast the fat kid for. At Santa was in. It was like all kids who had light shit shit ever hit Chris great not ship. But Nativity story deck the halls which ones that deck the halls is Danny devito and. Our duelling over like better raise. Yes. Right. Who Jesus and their wives in that are Kristin Davis? I think as Matthew Broderick's wife, and then vito's wife is someone like that's like a sight gag. I think. Like Eamonn or like. Great for someone tall. Just trying to think of all. That's the joke. I'm looking for it looks like we've got Kristin channel with always is devito's who's very short drew a different kind of they're both. Yeah. Still taller than him. I would imagine Santa Claus three the the escape clause. No, yes. Yes. Martin sure does Jack from Artie. Yeah. Yeah. Absolute masterpiece shorter than the movie are episode ads might buffet out though, you never know. Do you wanna make like you're sort of final stand for the movie Frank because I know we've been disrespecting it a lot and a lot of people love in probably get a lot of hate mail for this episode. Yeah, I do feel routinely bullied having returned to the podcast after so long. No, I just I I have such fond memories this movie, I think it is alternately very kind despite how deranged it is. I think a lot of like deranged movies are that I like are also sort of maybe a little mean spirited. Sure. And in this one it is refreshing just to see people treat each other thoughtfully after sort of the big opening, blah. And I hate Jasper. And Jude law is daddy. He is daddy. And that's true. Can't argue with. I think this is just one of those sort of nostalgia wants for me where I saw an appreciable age, and I'm always going to defend it. And there's so many of those moves I actually really don't like. And this for me is just been kind of a big sticking point. It is also kind of movie that was designed to be shown on TV over four hours Marshall brings this is like a TBS like lava, you know. Yeah. I think Jack black is normal in it. I think Kate Winslet is normal in it. Yeah. Judas normal, and I think cameras normal in it. Extremely normal. No, I just I'm very I'm very very fond of it. It's not my favorite, Nancy, definitely not mind. What's your favorite? Nancy somethings. It's spoil by only just saw it for the first time sort of this year. I was too young for it. When it came out. I'm still outrage. Okay. That's fine. David respect, the my parents did not take me to that movie. When it could have really damaged me, you see a naked lady in that picture. Outrageous, David to be fair in. Fucked. Really messed me up and made me like lady, you know, what a nightmare that would have been right. What a problem. Fran liked having remained relationships with women. I mean, a world would be so different the butterfly effect of that. I can't even consider just wouldn't make sense David in France defense. Something had to give. Yeah. Thank you all for listening. Please remember to rave review. Subscribe, thanks and for good personal media. Thanks to theme song Joe rounds for artwork. Go to blink dot com for some real nerdy. Shits check it our merchant t public. There's always skip it up up.

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#163: The Holiday Special

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#163: The Holiday Special

"Hello, welcome to a very very special. I'm final episode of seriously. This is the Christmas special that we promised you last week when we announced seriously is coming to its end after three and a half years and. Yeah, boy, if we go to treat fee today. Yeah, we do we couldn't bear the idea of not doing any kind of Christmas content at all into anti eighteen. So we've decided to bring forward are planned festive special. So today, you're going to be hearing various friends of the show. Many of them have million to you from previous episodes all discussing the incredible two thousand six film the holiday. Yes. This is a film directed by. Everyone's favourite autre Nancy Meyers, the author of the at the privileged American white lady lead. And it stars Cameron Diaz. Kate Winslet Jude law and Jack black in not a love quadrangle, but to love pass, and it's kind of for me become in recent years. The new love actually in that. I mean six film much possibly by which I know is not the case for a majority of audiences. But in the last few years, it's just become such a classic to both rewatch and kind of debates the merits or lack of merits they're off. It's kind of like the best worst Christmas film for of people. I wrote a piece about the holiday this time last year about all the kind of plot inconsistencies and will linked to that in the show notes and just all the kind of many absurdities this film house when we decided to do this special. We kind of thought it would be a weird one because we saw a lot of people would be kind of saying, oh, I hate this movie by seen it so many times and yet pretty much. Everyone. We spoke to has a very serious on the lying love for the holiday even with all its floors. So this is actually a celebration of the holiday, isn't it? It absolutely is. Yeah, I feel kind of woman fuzzy inside the fact that everyone we spoke to just went. No, I really really love this film. And I'm ashamed about it. Yeah. So we really hope you enjoy this. It's all swansong our final episodes merry Christmas. Merry christmas. So we're joined by similar Huns. Film critic of the observer to talk about the holiday Symon. You know, you're a critic. So I'd be verse. If I didn't ask you the holiday good, Phil. But Phil lessen the holiday is probably my favorite Christmas foam. I'm going to an eleven. So I think it's good for a long time. I've been saying I didn't really think is a good foam. But I love it and cart-racing like goatee pressure and actually the more. I watch it which you know is every since it came out in two thousand six and then probably a little bit more. You know, I can't Sarah sleekly say that don't think this works. I mean sitting sane movie. It's crazy. It makes no sense. But I think it's it's really fun. And yeah, I'm going to say, I think it's good t- thing. I mean, I guess the holiday achieves ways out to achieve right? I mean, the fact that we're all still watching at Christmas. How ever many years later shows that I just think that there is a line in the phone that Kate winslet's character iris says where she sort of sets up the thesis of the film, and she says I like corny I'm looking for corny in my life. Not as the whole movie by the defendants whole home. It's a critique is built into the movie. And yeah, I love I think is ridiculous thoughts. So true. Actually. I mean for me, I feel I kind of have a love hate relationship with this movie where there's lots of bits. I love and other bits that kind of made me want to scream please tell me about the bits that make you scream. Mean dude laws entire character kind of screaming this movie, I'm they're all like kind of fundamental plot holes and later in the show, we're going to talk a bit more about the time line, which is just very messy. It's bunkers, and so there are things that were I'm not give us give us some consistency. But despite all of that is just kind of like, fundamentally, homey. So it wins me over every time, and makes me cry really, which particular it's make you cry. Well, I mean, listen watching Cameron d is like cry for the first time acting in scene is I think almost like comical, I don't I don't actually thoughts. Good worried about what that it was. Just like, no, it's just a no. But when she is sort of having this big confrontation with the character Graham in bed kind of talking about how they gonna make this transatlantic relationship work. I just think it's actually really sad. And there is a sense of stakes emotional stakes there, even though of course, it's the room cubs. That Weiner house going to end. Yeah. Kind of. But then anyway. To discuss if nothing is resolved at the end of this movie. It's kind of like the least happy ending happy ending of all time. Yeah. Exactly. That's what I think about because so particularly what we wanted to focus on in. This segment was work in the characters professional lives, which are really integral to that known ending ending because we don't get any kind of sense of who's gonna move where or how they're going to resolve jobs or anything. It's just the role together on New Year's Eve, and they Danz and that stuff really, that's right. Shall we? Shall we start from the beginning? I was getting at the end ask if you'd head of the red theory was the red die in a car crash in that the ending is just a hallucination. That's the kind of read it. It's. To that in this theory that I I read apparently someone proposes the idea that both the cameras character and the Kate Winslet character are actually dead. I mean, I feel like this theory worked with ferris Buehler's day off and hasn't worked with anything else since they tried to buy it. I'm just saying exists. Well what? So actually, it's Graham miles and grains, children like gathering together to remember them on news eve, something never met would never. I'm so confused. Yeah. Well, anyway, let's talk about work then 'cause we're all very interested in like jobs and how they function in this movie. I'd like what these characters do. So we'll state all of their jobs. Amanda, the Cameron Diaz character. She has an amazing job and all of these jobs are incredibly like rob called. He's. Oh, he's. She's a film trailer editors so we have these seeds at the beginning where she like Hello John Christine ski by the way for an Han. Yes. Catherine on editing a trailer. I think was it was a cold is a disobedience deception -ception does James Franco in Lindsay, Lohan, amazing, the fake movie is so so real and committed to yet that will get this. When we talk about the time line yet. It's coming out on Christmas day, which seems very soon. For them still to be working on the trailer. Right. Yeah. It was very odd than we have. I ris- the Kate Winslet character. She works at the telegraph. We specifically told that it's the telegraph. Yes. That's a lot of kind of telegraph at messaging in the building. Is it the real building? I mean Libanan thousand six I'd never went into that. Telegraph building I did. But I don't think so. No, okay. And she her job. Specifically is that she's a sort of wedding correspondent Brian journalist for for a column that I don't think the telegraph is ever had. But the is equivalent to the kind of I think it's cooled commitments the famous New York Times column where they write-up people's weddings into heart warming ways seems to be what she does. Yep. And then we have Graham Jude law who was a book editor, but doesn't win specifically penguin. This is just so fascinating time. You see any evidence of his job is I think one like twenty-second scene where he's sitting his daughters are asleep in bed next to him. And he's like holding a pile of papers. And correcting them as if they are a book manuscript the entire intrusion of his job. That's how it works right Carolyn your experience at the book editing process someone in bed and kind of flick through I want to say, no. But actually, my publisher did just literally post me a bundle of pages of my book. Correct. With a pen they ride voting. And finally, we have miles the Jack black character. Who is a film score editor pays a? Yeah. Yes. Sorry. That's the word editor, he's a composer. And he writes the music for films, and we see him kind of composing the music for this, very odd. Looking foam that has two people in kind of like Victorian dress, but cycling modern bicycle. I I have no idea what Phil. All of the like fake films in this film. Because also we should say that amount. We are led to believe the Amanda is so good editing. Film trailers that she likes thinks about her own life in terms of film traders because at various points in the film, it sort of cuts to loosen at tree parody of events as if they were film traitor. Yeah of all of the fake films. I actually want to see the one that miles is scoring at that moment. It will say forgetting key character in the film, author, of course, author play by Illawarra, and he also has a ridiculous job. He's a retired Academy Award winning screenwriter. Yes. And also Louis B mayor's office, boy, isn't he just an improbable job. But I'm sure somebody had it. So we've got these three very LA Hollywood's jobs, and they're obviously all the characters who are based in LA. And then we've got these two imagine kind of like English literary jobs. Unlike telegraph journalist and penguin book editor so that kind of like rooted in the T places, and I guess, maybe the different kinds of characters lives. Like, we've kind of got these cottage rurals, I didn't know quaint English characters and these like glamorous been hobnobbing with all the celebs. Because I don't know huge amount about and I do know bit more about like, British listen media. It's always struck me. Very very hard. Every time. I watch this film that there is no way. Kate Winslet could live in that lovely cottage in the swells and commute daily to a probably quite badly paid job in the register section of the telegraph just financially. Forty minutes away from London. There's no way like anyone ever tried to travel to the coats worlds, like the about four trains a day to really rural places. I don't think it's meant to be in the colts worlds. We just know it is it is that she finds the nineteenth century caught sold. Bob sorry to man's play holiday. She's in Surrey is meant to be rejects the courts World War. American street, and he's like a nineteenth century bomb. But that looks so crop, and it's just like some nineteen seventies building. Clearly, the middle of the US 'cause it's got like a mailbox outside at like road markings very American as you're right. It is meant to be sorry. But still there's no way you could commute from a remote village that job. So it's possible that the LA jobs are equally incompatible. I I don't know what film trailer editors earn. But it's probably know enough to have like a massive gated mansion. I don't I don't know if that's true, actually, because they one thing that I found really unbelievable when I watched this movie, it's the idea that you would have like the best film trend editor in the biz. I was like, well, obviously, that's just got to be like a huge structural thing with lots of different companies like you wouldn't be like I want that guy to edit. My film trader apparently that is actually how it is. And if you Google like some of these guys as big profiles read about them about the people that you want to edit film trader and how they got so many people to go and see gravity, and like, blah, blah, whatever because they just did the trailers really well, so that is fascinates me. But it's interesting on the whole all of these jobs. I mean, the very Nancy Meyers say that I think is consistent with Nancy Meyers is filmography. Universe. Yes. Exactly, forty cooed. Joel ski is is in the cinematic universe. Right. Yeah. Of course. So the intern. She works at a magazine, like women's magazine, that's very wrong com. Job in my favorite Nancy Meyers. Maybe masterpiece something's gotta give Diane Keaton is a playwright and she's like hold up in head cottage in the Hamptons writing this play. I'm trying to remember what the what the parents do in the parent trap. Another dad owns the vineyard. But wanted to say that the mom was in function. But am I just think he one hundred one as you know, I think she is. I was gonna say designer she's she's a designer of some kind. Yeah. But I think fashion is ringing abo-. Yeah. And then in it's complicated. There's obviously Meryl Streep's bakery. She could eat a goson so one of in it's complicated. Exactly. So she she loves these kind of creative jobs for women are very traditionally feminine. But also, I think these rose allow female protagonist to be incredibly neurotic, and I think all of have maybe it's confront this idea of being workaholic baby. Ms well is nothing is maybe right. They haven't. I haven't seen it. Diane keaton. I'm pretty sure that I see my as I think she may be directed didn't writer. I'd I'd have to check. But the main carrot says she sort of his own, whoa straight. And then she goes and starts making these homemade apple preserves makes makes his business of like making apple sauce. And yes, so you like Nancy Meyers is interested in this idea the domestic and of like what's of traditional women? Do they do have these crazily feminine jobs? But that just sorry. Of in their own heads, and kind of neurotic, the I think there's something very different about those characters. So highly strung, she must be confronting her own kind of idea of work hauling interesting in the Amanda character particular, isn't it 'cause she may be conforms most closely to that in this film that she's extremely highly strung she's convinced that she she's such a workaholic that she can never have a real relationship with anybody and the first proper date. She goes on with Graham, he's just asking. So what do you do for work and she kinda lies to him? And initially says, oh, you know, I I'm film editor. And then later reveals actually she is the film trailer editor person and she owns her business. And he's like why didn't you say that straight away? And she says, oh, well, you know, some men are intimidated by the the in business, and I have this great reputation. So so, yes, she's clearly like second guessing herself. The whole time. Yeah. It's interesting though, isn't it because these Nancy Meyers jobs often as you say these really high flying jobs that allow characters to be workaho, Alex. But that also symbol Tamie Asli jobs that allow them to take a lot of time awful. I don't actually have to see them working very much. So you've got these professed workaholic characters that we never actually see do any work or like in the holiday to be fair. We do see Amanda editing film. Trader we do see IRS working at the office in the telegraph? It's kind of like introduction to heed these characters are and then we move on. And it's not always like that and Nazi Mayes. Maybe like the intern, for example is actually really about dramatizing this car. A lot. But I find that really interesting here because obviously, that's what you need for the wrong. Calm. You need you need that elasticity where they could just like go off tonight be on holiday for two weeks. I mean, it's called holiday a long. It's a long period of. Cibelli determine when was the last time someone who works a British national newspaper get two weeks off over Christmas new yet. Yeah. I mean, I guess maybe that's just no, weddings happening. So it's easier to killer will that's not true. It's a big period for weddings. But, but yeah, I find that quite interesting how we're both encouraged to see these characters as you say neurotic and workaholic, but also where watching them have a period of really like, no control. And there are some Tara's Graham, I failed in particular who doesn't seem to have any work pressure on him at all like he's both kind of a senior book editor. But also seems quite like a stay at home dad points because he looking off to his young children. Most of the time non Christmas Eve, though. Boning coming. If it is indeed Christmas Eve, it's very hard to tell is very hard to tell. What time actually is? We should touch on the timeline issues. I think because. Yeah, it's really hard to tell when anything is it seems like the period between like people finishing work for Christmas and actual Christmas day is very low in this film. But it also are think at one point we get the impression at least the Friday. The IRS is leaving work is like Friday, the twenty second of December. Right that it's the last Friday before Christmas that can't be right? We'll be right because then too much stuff happen coming something. Like, oh, I'm only here for nine days, and that's like halfway through. So he's obviously been quite few days before that. But then also she iris at miles have that Saad fettuccini on Christmas Eve that they specifically say he says, I'm gonna make us some Christmas Eve, and that comes like two thirds of the way through the film. And then the next thing we know it. Like New Year's day. Yeah. So where did Christmas go actual Christmas day? And also the other problem, I have with the time line is that iris meets also unlike her first or second day in LA, I wanna say, and then it's right before Christmas told they then respond to the letter from the screen writers guild of America about his big event, and they somehow manage to go from him never having spoken to them about this event to them putting on an event with a full theater before New Year's work, the time that doesn't work it is. It's quite mad to me. Like one of the things I think is ridiculous about the phone. I enjoy it. Because it makes sense to me is the whole structure of the film. It's tuna half hours long really going to come has any business. And the whole author subplot because I mean could upload because it's kind of not ready to do their romantic arcs. That is like forty minutes of the film. It's it's mad. I know Nancy Meyers rooms are usually quite long. But this sort of genera-, it makes no sense. And it's a kind of maybe where I mean, it's often on IT you might put it on or you might see on TV. And thank like. Oh, yeah. The holiday great and you sit down and then three hours ladies with. Oh my God. Would you say is it is it more normal for a room come to be under two hours? I I would say most room comes as of tighter end ninety minutes. But probably like one fifty does not scientific. It's just a different. Many many room combs because they comedy's comedy's assure too. And so why would Rome com need to be more than two hours and shocking to have a room comma is two and a half hours, and for it to be very unresolved at the end to go back to what we were saying earlier, partly because of these characters jobs, which for both of them are very very based either ends of the Atlantic. So we've got the book editing job on the on the telegraph job those alike, British institutional. Yeah. And then we've got these Hollywood jobs in LA those characters we never we never learn like who's relocating where and here's my theory. It's the holiday so it's only interested in the holiday period. It's not interested in like what happens off to it. You could make a foam called the holiday about this holiday, and then give the audience a sense of like ok Kate winslet's moving to LA. She loved it. She's got more friends out there. She headed friends holiday, Raymond. Because then they very committed that we can tell that this is more than just, wow, I had such fun two weeks. Sure. But he hasn't had a holiday romance. Oh, flotation where at the end of it you like, yes, we're definitely going to make this. Then obviously, it doesn't. So you'll have ended the end of the holiday that everyone had a good time. But now it's going to see each other. Again, I'm not convinced it's going to work. Someone makes serious vices jobs in both on im- both of the couple's someone needs to quit the job and move to a different country for it to work. We I think can assume it's probably not going to be Graham just be because he has kids, and he mentioned grandparents also look his children. So maybe this is gonna like abandon his children to his parents and move to LA. But seems unlikely we'll say like he could conceivably moved to New York and get a job as a cutter, but not really to LA publishing in America is very east coast Centric, I think so maybe it'll be a man. Under who moves Ditto. Like, I didn't know whether you can really go from job at the telegraph to in LA. It doesn't seem to really work. So maybe miles has to become like a BAFTA nominated film composer in London something, but do you do you buy that Raymond's between Kate wins? And no not really too. I think he's just like they've they've both had traumatic breakup and sort of own going slight it's kind of hinted, especially with irises it to the her relationship with her boss is Jonah Jospeh kind of emotion the abusive, so they both had really traumatic breakup, and they're just like fundamentally nice to each other. And then they're both right. This is love. I mean, I don't even agree that particularly nice to each other. I think we should probably should save that for the for the love of the focused. But yeah, I I agree that someone's gotta read. Okay. And you know, if we looked at this through our very kind of economically realistic lens. It would seem unlikely for that to be successful relocation for anyone. But if we know Nancy Meyers films. Yeah. Also, I didn't know about you guys. But I'm convinced the Graham and iris he would brother and sister, by the way that they have family money. Yeah. So the family money, and then it worked it's true. It's so true. And you know, economic barriers the barriers they existed. Nancy Meyers foods. It's a beautiful fantasy when no one has to worry about money. And you know, I take them at that level. I like that it's nice to orchard to two and a half hour long film in which no one has any money problems ever. I'm on board. So now, I'm joined by two longtime friends of seriously, Stephanie bolan whose web as a prospect and India book, he's our editorial assistant and environment writer both been on seriously multiple times before so you'll recognize voices. I was gonna say the whole the holiday enthusiasts, but that might be tarring you with a Brown eyes. So I'd hate to do that. I we're going to ask the pair of you. Whether you think the holiday is a good film on I start with you India is this a good film, the holiday I yes, yes. It is a good family. It makes me happy. Own it. It makes me happy. I am not sure. Whether it's entirely good has a like moral lessons. Yeah. No notice that has to be I guess, it doesn't have to be a good moral society. But I'm sure we'll get into that a bit more support cost gays on Stephanie. I love the India just go straight in. I'm going to think to film in if you adjust it against what it's trying to be which is a fluffy holiday romance film. Yes it fantastic zone division. So yes, sure, we've been very positive about the holiday actually when when we when we thought about doing this special. I think both Caroline. And I were like how would it feel to do a special costs on something that we might be ranking on quite a lot? Actually, everyone seems to have ignored that you know, what I've watched this film a lot of times. I enjoy watching it. So how can I sit here and say so bad, Phil? And I am very pleased about that. Because I think it suggests August's very Choon with Walt they actually like, and what culture is full as opposed to like measuring things by arbitrary external. And so the the element of the film, but we're going to talk about now is love because you can't talk about com without talking about love candidate. I would just be bizarro. I mean, the the joy of this kind of I wanna say on Thala. Ji phil. That's a stretch is not quite an unfolded film. But the joy of a film like this has kind of like to a plots is that we get kind of two wrong calms in one and we get to couples in one. And I think everyone has a couple of nece film that they're more interested in I think than the other couple do you guys. I have had most interested in. The couple of makes the film full. And without which I think the two Diaz and Kate Winslet judicial relationships would be deep retaining is Kate winslet's relationship with the film. Autho is not elderly author. Yeah. Also this. Who is very highly eight an highly durable. And she befriends him in the street when he's kind of wondering lost, and she's a bit of a lost soul. And he's physically lost in his mind, Anna, they find each other in what he might describe as acute to meet. Yes, I meet cute in. Cute meat because this is king. Yeah. And if such an interesting plotline, actually 'cause I said this film has to APRIL's. But that is really the be- plot isn't a is the author Kate Winslet relationship, and it gets a lot of screen time in this movie. I wouldn't want to actually this is fact without counting. But I would guess that the author iris plot gets more time than the iris. Don, yet, even though the posters, etc. Trying to tell us that this is a film about Kate wins looking Jude with Jack Ma I do you kind of wish it was a foam about Kate Winslet hooking up with Jude law, though, not to get on the cost thousands esters in the internal. Guys the. Yeah. So I mean what purpose? Do we think that that subplot Radi served because also this is the one really kind of nuanced portray if a friendship in this film, not many friendships portrayed in this film, apart from this new one, I guess just because of the inherent structure of the film like these people are on holiday. They're not hanging out with their usual friends. Maybe the the fact that we spent so much time with this friendship. What are what are they trying to do with that blow? It's really interesting because so like pumps Bridget Jones in the coupla for the films, but very unlike series, like friends, all of the four main characters are slightly older than you'd think of is being cast in many sort of big hit Rome combs, and they're all on the cusp between kind of silting lives. They already have established career is they've got an extended to roost relationship ready behind them. This isn't the kind of bloom of I love what is named. Louis character Graham. Come into Graham. I love it so much, but he's already a widower. And so I feel like Arthur serves the voice of authority from the generation of to kind of entrance into mature adulthood type film, isn't it rather than a introduction to his love and romance is. So maybe he's the voice of the successful relationship with his wife to- today. I think he's God even. In a kind of like a Bruce almighty. Saving grace of them is the fact that it just is mostly in love with Hollywood. You've probably talked about this in another section, but it's all references to the film, well, Hollywood, etc. And he is the screen rights. He is the script writer and his lines. He's trying to kind of get Kate winslet's character to rally, and he's like, I always space my female characters on my wife, which is sweet. And it's because she had gumption and his another lovely line. He comes out with he's when he tells it, you know, you've got to be the leading lady in your life and say he gives it this whole matter level of this, right? A cliche the other to the other relationships playing with like archetypes of relationship problems and characters and floors, and then him stepping in as is kind of overlord screenwriter you like, okay. This is a this is a simplistic moral story that we should not take us. Intensive amendment. So many of them were industry that's to do with writing stories. So she's she a wedding. Yeah. I have wedding. Correspondent telegraph. Did. You get she was watching car. She's writing kind of readers lives notice in the scene where she's. She, but she kind of works in the script writers. We've got film music writers. And they spent so much time talking about love the to Ming Capozza constantly analyzing live life to really funny conceit. Yeah. This is funny because he does you're right. The offer character kind of comes in and offers that divine script like the alternate script of how relationships where he like understands the conceits of like the meat cues. He understands the kind of like blocking of a traditional love story. But you're right. They're all kind of self analyzing what love should be like even Cameron Diaz with constant film trailers in her head that all cell finalizing all the time. And none of the neither of these relationships. Interestingly for me anyway, hit those classic structural points in relationships because the whole setting of the film it's over such a short period, you know, it's not like. We get the kind of you know, they tried to compress the like fully in love with the best friend narrative into the into the Jack black story. But it doesn't it doesn't quite function in that way. And on our wanted to ask you about this as she and because you have this strong belief that knew that that relationship isn't really there retool will. Yeah. I just don't think it just doesn't work for me. I just don't they don't have the right amount of chemistry. They don't have the right amount of stuff in common. They don't for me. I'm just I don't really believe I believe that they might help each other through like a slightly stressful period in live as you don't fancy jet black. We just finished recording staff. Uh-huh. Change my money on him. Before I just last night. Yeah. I'm getting like. He's just very nice. It's nice. His his question. I have for the group these junk black nice in this film. Or is he behaving in the exact same way as Kate winslet's of a romantic interest artists other interest. Jasper the journalist who's like Jack black got another partner still hangs out with IRAs all the time is kind of intimate romantic with her. Unlike hides the tries to kind of fudge the the reality of his love life from her. And you know, kind of says will these kind of like encouraging things to help her gain self-confidence. But then I don't know if John black didn't break out with his girlfriend get wit iris in the end, he would be exactly, but we because Jack Black's not kind of like Seabra handsome will like, oh, he's the nice guy isn't the decisiveness. He this place though. So that he when he breaks up with his girlfriend she realizes he he says I'm gonna if you'd like. Commence bend New Year's Eve in London with her. And he's like, yeah. One hundred percent in this. And so in that moment, it's meant to be having the two love interest can go into way, and can and we going young mean, cool and do this. That's a good point in defense of jet. Black. I was gonna say on the other side. I think 'cause I think as we've mentioned before I don't find the Amanda Graham Carmody as do law relationship, particularly high stakes tool. I just don't believe that they will ever see each other again after this film. But I think one of the most genuine heartbreaking moments in the whole film is when Kate Winslet is in the sushi restaurant with Jack Black's character, and he gets a cool from his other girlfriend, and he just leaves. He just goes to see her. And yet find it subsequently revealed that he did that in order to break out with our whatever. But he spends time that he very nearly misses the very important thing that they have not not, and yes, she just sort of e to loan in a restaurant. And I think that's really sad. And I think it is a bit. If you wanted to see sort of foreshadowing, I think you get that, you know, even though he does then go I'm coming to London to be with you. He will. You probably do that. Will he changed his mind? I mean, haven't we all known that boy who shows that split second decisiveness, and then t weeks later isn't. So decided that boys? Even in a lower key way, though, you can imagine if they do somehow manage to concoct a successful transatlantic relationship out of initial meeting that he is going to be the person who will tax at like five thirty at work being like, oh, really sorry. Call may important and expensive dinner plans that you made this evening check you later Atelli. What is his thing of making her guest movie soundtracks? That's gonna get boring really. In his defense. He does right themes in which is beautiful. Yeah. Jack, black apologists the remiss. What do we think about Graham and Cameron Diaz his character? What's her bloody knew a man that I I never remember her name is terrible. Terrible name for a character. Played by Carmen Diaz. She does not like in a month. Anyway, so Amman during Graham, how do we feel about them? Do we do we believe them as a couple did read a coupla build reviews of the holiday in preparation for this? Because some of them are brilliantly scathing about and the guard interview, and I couldn't tell you the June List is sheds the couple's not believable because I also alike in every facet of being kind of hot actors actresses at this hinge in their careers. Most incestuous. And now, I can't. That's very that's such a good point the bit where he goes. We're will part you. And I I am a in publishing. A new edit film trailers. Such a fact one of my favorite lines in the movie that his intonation is like with so different from different worlds. It's like, no, you will both privileged white people who Ed it. Ed it. Isn't it Carolyn? It is it's my favorite the hoping for me. I again, I'm not sure I completely believe that they will spend the rest of their lives together after this. Maybe it's over and I also find the Graham character so thinly drew because the whole basically, the Jude little Graham character is whole character is father and the beginning it seeming playboy, then revealed single father, and he's so kind of like cagey about mentioning that he has children or introducing Cameron Diaz his Amanda to his children. And then as soon as she finds out about the children. He's like come play in my living room, meet them bond with a new mother. Feeling Numa for two weeks before you fly back to the US? And like that character. Switch for me. It's just so sudden and kind of absurd I'm then like, we'll hang on more is this relationship. Really? Because if you're if you're going to be so key. I don't know if you're going to introduce your kids to someone shouldn't be pre. Sure. So I take that. Characters really, really thin and. If he hasn't had the kind of emotional maturity to deal with like his situation before he met Amanda by just going out and getting drunk all the time. He's probably not going to have the maturity to deal with a woman potentially giving up her or him having to give out that like Chris for each other and making that that that that leads to one of the things that watching it last night made me think was the female characters not very deeply developed, but you do it is orientated towards them, and they do land satin life essence about picking yourself after full and try paying yourself out there and trying something you, and you can get as a female kind of romantic view of the movie, but I something discussion with some guy friends the other week at she about sex in the city, really to me, how female romantic role models are in TV in film. And that kind of either show man in a good light tool or show them having any kind of emotional character development, in a way that you can like jewel, some basic life lessons, and I'm not sure they really exist in this film that much. I mean. It's nice seeing J lo being the one he's emotionally vulnerable able to cry on his primary cag-, I probably and the one he's able to say, I love you. And let's do this because that's normally vast debts, very generalized agent of of mine. Yeah. I just still wonder I think it's better than than say sex in the city in terms of what it can give to male viewers. But I wonder if it still falls quite short the whole genre. From comes a ready, get up towards female viewers, right and non-c mines in particular. What she's normally so good as well as creating films for an older female audience like films, like something's gotta give and it's complicated. And you know, maybe two three extent films like the internal. They're so good. It's like as you say staff, these characters are slightly older than you'll usual, Rome. Calm pitch and then holders Meryl Streep Diane Keaton something's gotta give. But they are. I don't know. Maybe for me that what they do offer is something that's not just like a standard twenty three year old just I'll just graduated trying to make way in the world of work and love, you know, they they little bit a little bit more than that for a female view. But it's true. That men in Rome combs do tend to be. Gone either as villains or as kind of like perfect romantic partners, nor is kind of like someone that you might make compromises with on that journey. They're just quite passive the two male needs. They like the women arrive in their lives and kind of appear to him out provide a FILA gap. That was that. And they don't seem to really do anything to have achieved that himselves do the women. Both literally full of the first one they see in the new country of taxi drivers. Tax. You. That's very taxi driver each. And then who does his iris meet first author or I think it's. Yeah. He comes to the house 'cause he's friends with Amanda Zack's. Speaking up, his stuff, I think the wins the magical wins. Can happen. But on the sun, whatever wins that is bizarre staff. You had some thoughts as well about gender and love and friendship in this film. Yeah. It's really interesting. You bring up the women being better realized that I completely agree with. I was really struck. The women don't seem to really have female friendships, which is something. That's normally such a big thing in a room com is the chat with the best friend about the guy. So I think I rish talks to one of her colleagues about just Brin deny still being in love with him. When they're yes, amazing cameo by Sarah parish. I thought about this rewatching that interesting that she was in this. Yeah. And since you're funny kind of moment that the never gets revisted for the rest of the film that she's apparently quite friendly with this colleague, and it made me think of something you got writers have observed me, which is that if you want to write to imperil team drama today, you have to either set in the fantasy world or in the past or get the maroon Dolin island. Or something because mobile phones, completely undermine the show. And it's kind of similar in this film. I think that you have to maroon both of these women with no other women around. So that they can have all these dramatic conversations about the nature of love with the men in their lives. I mean, I don't know. Amanda is meant to have any women friends iris doesn't really seem to be that. Maybe she did. And they'll disappear it because I got so sick of hearing about this whole Jasper among the supposed to be so isolated because she sought to work a holy. And she can't let anyone in and she can't cry Risa. She she does seems to have no one apart from to editors who sit in her house, John Christine skin, Catherine Hawn, that's it. And I guess for the conceit you'll have to be isolated to the wedge y they also free and available ovo Christmas. I wanted to be with yet. Totally. But I think you'll right missing is such a common wrong contract. Which is the moment where the goes kind of like decamp somewhere with their friends and analyze what's going on ask for vice and get gas. Stop ready to go on the next day. And there's none of that. So and it also obviously Abel's things like Cameron Diaz to realize that you'd Loris Iris's 'Brava and all of these enables little plot points. It's funny that you mentioned mobile phones, because I think the way that Graham talks to his to spite his seven year old and his ten year old on the phone in this bigger way that he could ago friend or a mate down the pub on his vote is just so bizarre. Like, why are his to do to save into separate names on his phone? Call him on the phones that he bought them for emergencies. Only is he just like Ohio Cooley back the emergency seven year old. Okay. I'll call you later than by one quick extra under female friend thing. I wonder if the houses 'cause yet they don't interact directly the TV mile leads. But that houses will may stand in for that pass Nalitzis because they're so stylized, and you almost feel like annual number one come friends who are very different land each other qualities yet improve what the other one is is low on an houses will miss do that a little bit for them as well. Kate's mate? Rehire makes does more kind of being lands that warmth and an Amanda. Gives. The key. Confidence. Definitely I definitely think that's an element of it's interesting as well. Because the the Atlantic creates opportunity on these obstacles in this film. What if the schools being the Irish never really speak from nine instant messaging, Chad the beginning of final glimpse of them interacting at the end. And you know, you could imagine they would be able to give each other lots of advice on this situation and lots of kind of hand holding through through each other's especially needs because they both know each other's perspective partners valley, while would be able to give advice, but they don't which is obviously a blessing and a curse for the film because we do think sometimes it lacks seems like that. But obviously enables the action to happen on the other. Obviously major obstacle that. The Atlantic proposes is. That's a lot of happy ending in this movie because of it because we don't know if these characters are going to relocate their lives in order to be with the partners over new Thani partners. Do you guys think what would you suggest would be the resolution post credit roll who's moving where when who's giving up that career? How's it going to work, or is it just not gonna work? I'm fixated on the house thing. Now, it's those ages catch me that the team main Hames, you see are created very much by the women. You don't see Jap locks and g lose hame. With his kids feels very much like it was a product of his full marriage. Like, it's family Heym feels right famine. So these are homes that are defined by the women the Hyam is very traditional miss the women's space in this. Maybe so maybe they end by by on that principle, Elaine. They would all have to live with in the women's. In the house. We know. Yes. The men of the moving. Yeah. I can see that logic Steph. I'm not just thinking about authors mazing aims drove completely distracted earth house. Die on one of them. Live next door. There we go. We've solved. We'll have to police kits out school of is Lee. But I think living in LA pretty young. So you think you think the the book publishers gonna up sticks to LA with Amanda? I mean, she's a higher earner. Let's be King Kong give up. She can't. She caught me career to another coast or another continent of she's chilled out. But she's choice iris going to stay. She's now Arison Jackie gonna move into the script writers house next door. So everyone's come camping out to Hollywood. Yeah. Because there's a film about the movies that we go that was. Mean this film did combined six. Okay. Well, that's great guys. Thank you so much. So now, we're joined by Nick Hilton. Who is what's your ficials title? Nick. Joma John serious now. Officially your. I guess I run a run a little company big massive Mars fan. I run conferences about pop culture. And. Yeah, that's it. Can we say importantly, you didn't say that you coporate a dog without a? Well, he's right here in the room. Adult people won't be able to hear touchy. Yeah. He doesn't. He doesn't become you make noise. But yeah, naked also my boyfriend occasionally referred to by friends for the seriously seriously, ever, a Nick has been a longtime supporter and fan of the show big fun. We thought it'd be fun to get him on. So actually, I would say that your extreme Nancy Meyers enthusiast you'll probably the biggest Nancy Meyers fan on. Oh. Which is unusual for bloke is are they very gendered films. I think they're just a little bit of a CIA about this in all section on love and on the wrong a slightly gendered John Rao in the first. Tomaz Ronco much that the parent trap isn't the intern isn't they still film? So I would imagine ski very female say they skewed the age binary is probably the bigger one financy MAs films rather than gender binary. But I have no skewed slightly old. The gray pout. Anyway, we're false escaping the structure of this segment. I mean, we're gonna ask you Nick is devoting. The holiday is a good movie or robotic movie is a really good movie. I am I wasn't sure. Because it's been a while since I've watched I think this when I watched this morning. It was third time. I've watched ever I I on Christmas Eve family cinema routing. And you know, I was probably like when it came out to six. So I guess I was can I just quick a in my has or it's not me on. Thirty. Was a thirteen year old boy Christmas with my mom and my sister. And I didn't love it. I mean, I've seen again, and sort of had the Nazi Mars affect on me. And so this morning, I was willing to sit there and play proper jury on. And I think is really good. I think it really holds together. I thought going in the in the UK works for the in America doesn't work that was my sort of lingering feeling I have from previous viewings, and I think that's completely wrong. I think they both were really nicely as really nice balance to it. Would you say justifies its run time of two and a half hours? Neither myself nor tub what upset through a lot of it. But we I found it, very, breezy and Geno. I'm pretty committed believer. In ninety minutes is long enough any film, I often jokes that I would like to walk out films ninety minutes. Just encourage people not go any longer, but that could have been another hour hour and a half. And I would have another hour and a half hour. A TV show based on those characters and settings. Yeah. Well, we get what do you think of the hypothesis the Simmons adjusted earlier in the show that the author iris storyline. You could just drop that on the film would still work. I think it would still work which decimated the film. Even better. I love that segment. Violet was ninety when they were filming. He died a few years ago, but he was a proper old, man. He he's so good at being a proper almond. We're watching this Masan shine the other night giving you a real insight into our domestic life. Sunshine has Alan Arkin as the ground dot who that point. I was like probably what was in his early seventies. You know, mid seventies. Does it didn't feel like a proper? Oh man, in the way. To Hollywood legend playing legend. I would defend that segment to the death. Because he also is forty minutes of alone film that doesn't necessarily directly influence like the actual Rome. Calm, but every Nancy Mars Ville has to have this Coric. Roll this cork presence in it's complicated. You have the, you know, the Goldie Hawn Rita Wilson. Shirley, MacLaine sort of conference of women. And here the coven yet is this here the role is played by these men these Jewish Hollywood legends and they do function. Are they do have a function within the romantic law, which is to bring miles into show malls is the way he ingratiates himself, both as friends and the later Monte contrast. I think I didn't think it is forty minutes. I would watch whole film about about K wins the growing to love. I agree with you. Actually, I think is one of the stronger parts of the Phil. Yeah. And it's just a nice insight into both of these characters, but moving on we're going to talk about the home in the section of the poll cost because I mean, anyone who knows anything about Nancy Meyers will know that the sets a Radi key pond Nazi Myers maybes, and she's known for these kind of very lavish, very stylish. I would say very all American homes. The kind of homes have enormous kitchens and bathrooms with his and hers, sinks and the homes become very important in this film. We were just talking on the lot segment with India about love about how those two homes kind of have to stand in for the characters the live in them and built them because the Amanda iris characters don't ready. Hang out. So the homes kind of enable those relationships to develop a bit even then not in the same room as each other. So I I kind of want to know your thoughts on Nancy Meyers homes in general, Nick 'cause you all your corner server. Nancy Meyers sets I'd say, yes. Well, I think the important thing about Nazi Myers home is that it should both speak to like affluence and a very urban form of affluence without being urban. So we'll her previous films exempting, the interns and extent because the intern is actually a somewhat totally different film from something's gotta give is complicated. What women want their set in places like the Hamptons, Ohio? It's complicated. Sort of the idea of rurality, but tempered by a very close proximity inclination ship with the urban sophistication. And so I think he was telling that I think to British is the the cottage that wins that lives in which currently has moves to feels very rural. And this sequence the beginning where the tax. Drive a wound take down the path way. Apparently, she can't they can't get close enough to it. And she loves. Enormous suitcase down they've done that it presents itself. As though it's something really kind of fall from civilization. And that's actually one of the most expensive towns Sheeran. Sorry, it's about forty five minute train journey from London is very much part of the buji commute extended commuter experience. So is ability to make somewhere seem both it daily and countryside. And by the see or out in the out in the hills, and California and also very sophisticated, and that's why it was very obvious choice. Sorry hills for for Nancy miles Ville, I think it's interesting as well. Because the two houses are obviously meant to speak to the two women's characters in the Amanda Cameron Diaz house is almost doesn't look particularly lived in it, so glossy, and like, you know, the amazing DVD collection and the team that pops out of the wall. And it's it's like extremely high functioning and glossy. But it's not it's not that homely. I'd say compared to most Nancy Meyers homes, which whilst having that veneer of gloss. Do tend to have this real level of coziness. Don't they wear as the other house seems much more lived in its deliberately like kind of overly small is actually a little bit too small, isn't it? And like the things like the ball too small for Amanda. They kind of it makes a statement about that personalities as well someone he's a little bit more unassuming and someone who's much more kind of. I don't know up tight and wants to be very well presented to agree. I think that's well the narrative setting out from the beginning is this idea of Amanda has Bill studio in her home. So that she can hide Jonker since key and Catherine Hannukah listened to live in her house. Her house is the separation of work in life. There is non-existent you've always movies and the stereo, you know, this area sounds over video systems. Yeah. Earth is that because you know, it doesn't look like a home looks like a workspace. And I do think that Nancy Meyers homes generally more utilitarian than people give them credit for that. Like, it's complicated. The home space looks like it resembles a bakery in runs a bakery. The film also revolves around the kitchen because they're building a new one building a new one. But also the social space the family meet the fridge. They take things, you know, then they're sequences like where she changes the water on the water, cooler, which feel very practical hands on in a way that when you talk about Muslims being very lavish and ostentatious sort of miss the point on the same with the intern the kitchen meeting spaces where Ben comes in every day to, you know, have coffee with husband where she sorts out the packages from her work and stuff like that. So the functionality of the space is is quite the the Cameron Diaz home is much more classic Nazi Mars home in that sense. And it's actually the Kate wins him. That's doing something a bit different in terms of creating this new environment based on like this on a very specific idea of apple Britishness, Twee Britishness. Yeah. Do you think the the house is meant to also basically symbolize the two different countries? In the two different coasts, coasts continents. The like those two national identities. Yeah. I mean, the film is profoundly about that. Transatlantic culture swapping even the very name. The holiday is a pun on the double meaning of the whole in the US. That means Christmas song getting on vacation. So they're playing with the very idea of Britishness in American culture trashing here in Thailand, I think, you know, throughout Kate Winslet is essentially playing Bridget Jones. Ooh, take we know inset that yet. We know that before. But yeah, I guess in a way she is the all by myself era. Bridget Jones right with with the Mr. bright side. Roz? Actually, that's that's that's. But the way she saw of Bridget Jones, by way of the sort of Diane Keaton character that self in something's gotta give and the head on the hunt in what women want all these, you know, the Nazi Myers school of Rome. Calm actually gave a lot to the Bridget Jones character. I would say even to Kate Winslet row, which is not a particular well defined as Kate. Windsor owes go is a sort of takes the sort of tropes of British Jones. And takes it brings them into the Nazi MAs formats, the the Amanda heroin is a much more classic again is much more. Classic Nancy Mars heroin, and the iris and how you feel about some of the other sets in this movie. We we get a glimpse of office home. We've already mentioned his kind of nice Eames chair and his kind of mid century modern field. He's gone. We also glimpse of. Graham's family home, which is kind of a more traditional. But also, quite lavish. Absolutely stunning. The market value of that for. On one income as well. Yeah. Maybe his wife was very wealthy simmer. And made the point when we were discussing work, you can own this film, only works if you that they both or at least certainly the Graham and Kate Winslet characters. Kaley have a considerable amount of family money. Yeah. And I think that's why you know, you would expect Kate Winston and Judy 'Save links not come from. Just looking at. They've got the ruddy sheen of the stock Crecy about. The American houses. I think you're actually maybe more interesting to me because as not seeing aficionado because the interiors of interior bypassing Nazi MAs. And both the there's a wonderful almost chilling short of the Hanukkah party where the camera sort of swings right usually people like shaving stories converse wind in the background. You just see a maid cleaning gloss on commented on the fact that you've got this sort of you see the help, isn't it? Very conscious. No one was to be a nice in. Cool that you made. So of says, it brings me so much joy to even be near you. The dynamic, but the the interest of this house is a very classy Nazi moss and just to plug something. I did I Zoe Kazan for another cost. And she talks Nancy Mars as being a dark who taught everything can't have anything on her sets in her houses that she was in. It's complicated. Compared to go to Bristol on those sets in inside look like that. But also get the sense that nothing doesn't have any love for Los Angeles as a exterior location. So usually lots of rural walks, and you get gardens and people like feel that in this one the only exterior you guys leading out her balcony to throw things at her cheating. Iran, and you will get off the egg. You know, look I got lost because keep tearing down these houses, they weren't very good anyway, but the whole neighborhood to change this tension in the buildings of whether they're these new ugly sort of Hollywood mansions or whether they're the old ones, which wasn't very good either. And really the space is pushed in woods, ever in woods. There is that of course, one ridiculous sequence when Kate Winslet first arrives in the US. And she's kind of hanging like a dog with her head out the sign Accion and she goes pasta field of horses. And she goes one look at the horses. Do you? Remember that? Remember? Yes. Yeah. I'm pretty sure she's just like point to get things going. Wow. And you're like, okay, your classic like newcomer in L A starring palm tree. Doses karma. No, you'll you'll pushing me on my of south out. I mean, we may Nick often have this argument about whether the holiday not the holiday what a home again is could be considered an ANSI Myers me, which is a film. Which of love who Californian landscapes speech in the jazz of California landscapes, but home again, like it's complicated. This out somewhere in Ohio Napa, I dunno where in this sort of the California hills sort of wine country. The city. This one is set in Hollywood, they live they live somewhere Beverly Hills or whatever. And you know that. That's why you don't get that sense of the outdoor space. And that's something that you have these reconfigured in in the UK where. Cameron Diaz twice. You see comedy us making that journey this apparently uninhabitable. Sorry road. You know, I I'm luggage second time in heels. And there's also that scene isn't that where she and you go like go to some stately home and so of smoke in the hedges and stuff. So there is stuff happening outside. That's a. Briefly his house because his houses long. Cottage is also useful. Lynn leagues theory of that is linked like pornographic Lii in a way that the the exterior of the of cameras has home is never is never sort of syncs amongst the bushes in the in the way that focus on extreme privacy. I think a lot of houses to Bush's the trees covering up. Whereas, you know, the the Kate Winslet cottage sticks out like tombstone. And and she when when when comedy has Rives. Yes, looks at the tombstones across inch. Oh my God. Look, so beautiful snowy churchyard. And then she goes to this house's. Upright protruding from the ground on his look at me. Like, I'm crazy. No, no, nothing just false it. That's. Unfortunately. Keiser symon. We want to ask you. What is the most absurd? The silliest moment in the holiday for you. I have to to just wonderfully ridiculous. Okay. The first one is when Cameron Dez is don't saying and singing to you. This ROY side the killers track from t- thousand four I think guys in cram, which by two thousand six is already dated. She sing it so badly. She makes me physically cringe to what J it's so embarrassing icon, even find it funnier endearing. That that's me is a very important part of the film and also close icon ick character myth napkin heads there is a moment. Where Jude law says I am daddy. The what he means is I am. Zadie? He is so ridiculously attractive in this phone the the scene of him putting on a napkin underneath his glasses. And then putting a spoon in his mouth. And smoking it like a cigarette for these two that will goes is just the greatest thing I've ever seen. Yes. The question that I actually had when I watched the holiday last year was how is law at his most attractiveness fill as MRs the napkin head. He's got a sheet over his head. And somehow that is the pinnacle of his attractiveness in this film for me. He's just you know, he's got the whole hot dad thing down to a tape. He has well. Thank you. So staff will is the most absurd moment in the holiday fear apart from literally every time come reindeer has to say the name Graham. I think it has to be when the telegraph editor says we're going to work for the skeleton stuff. So we live you all enjoy the holidays rather than Christmas telegraph editor ever called it. The holidays rather than Christmas. That's true very far. And India mine is candidate has changes her mind about lure and tons around the car, and it's like noted I take drive me all the way I'll run through like ice e country way in. I was thinking what what she is she wearing and then they do a wide show, and she is in still after Irene. Half an to incredibly bad moments. So Nick, what is the silliest bit of the holiday. I was going to say, Mr. Bryce, I moved, but I gather all ready been taken which I think is is is very becomes. What of me about like lads in the club? But the complete gone of is that there were there in the video rental store. And he's malls is doing this what various soundtracks, and he saw saucer talk about the original music for the graduate, and then the camera pounds, and you see sort of Dustin Hoffman out the video store checking out his own video. He's like shakes his hadn't conquer away from the fans. Something's the rather self aggrandizing, given the Moses not even talking to him. It's just one of those moments where you're sort of like that is a wildly underused celebrity cameo. Yes. Why did they just get him to do that the very least how interact with dust novement? But instead, it's, you know, but it just shows, you know, the extent to which ninety miles is is one of the great American directors. Upon doesn't often whenever she wants Meryl Streep. What is Dustin Hoffman doing in blockbuster on Christmas Eve? That's my question. Yes. He doesn't have enough films. That home is very very odd. Was anyone doing blockbuster in two thousand six it's just obstinately people? Here's really recording. Recording. Just hang out. Olbermann mainly. Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Nick. Tis. Thank you for listening to this episode of seriously, I've been on Alaska vich, and I've been carrying on grumped. And this is the final episode of seriously. And we just have to again say such a huge thanks to everyone who has ever listened to seriously to those of you who listened semi religiously my God, we couldn't we couldn't have possibly hoped for better audience. Could we know you will been amazing and all of your masters in emails since we said that we finishing have been really lovely as well. And we're not going anywhere with still going to be around in about writing on the internet will have a low audio projects and stuff. So you can find links to those below and yeah, we'll we'll talk to you again, all the love I have much love ice of about. But goodbye, we've loved you. And it's just been such a great experience both of us. Yeah. Bye.

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What Will The Final Star Wars Saga Film Be Titled? Disney Revive The Muppets? Avatar sequels, Jumanji, Halloween, Disney/Fox

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What Will The Final Star Wars Saga Film Be Titled? Disney Revive The Muppets? Avatar sequels, Jumanji, Halloween, Disney/Fox

"Hello, everyone and welcome to slash home. Daily for Thursday, fit were seventh two thousand nineteen and today's episode. We're gonna talk about the latest film and TV news is slash film editor in chief Peterson rutta in Germany mantis gases slash film, senior writer, Ben Pearson. Hey, it was gone and read her Chris vigilance too high, and we got a bunch of news to talk about today. But before we get into the news. I want to talk about this feature that I wrote on the site. It got published yesterday. I I guess it's kind of a mini feature. It's kind of a joke took actually call it a feature, but it was titled Star Wars up so nine title. What should it be in? When can we expect it is this came about because Anthony Daniels the actor who plays C three PO put out this vague tweet on Monday, basically saying that something was heading towards us a lot of people theorize that this would be eight teaser trailer for the new Star Wars Episode nine I end like many other people like you, Chris. Theorized that it could have been the Star Wars Episode nine title there happen to be a Disney investors meeting the following day yester- on Tuesday and a lot of people didn't to that hoping im- expecting that the title for Jj Abrams last film in the Skywalker. Saga was going to be announced in basically nothing came of it. But but because I had a day to think about it. I wanted to put something down here because a lot of people have been asking me. When will we get the Star Wars up so nine title, and I put together a big post here. But basically, I looked back at history the history of the Disney Star Wars foams, so for example, the force awakens, they revealed the title on November six two thousand fourteen those year and a month before the film came out in for Star Wars the last Jedi their field the title January twenty third two thousand seventeen about eleven months before the film came out. So we we are at that range right now, we're at like eleven months or a little less than eleven months. So I think we're going to get a title soon. The question is what is the title going to be? I put a lot of thought I go into the history of the, you know, all the the eat titles that we've gotten thus far and Skywalker saga, and you can read about how there's you know, fluctuations is usually, you know, it goes from a new hope which is the light side, of course, to the dark side that restricts back back to return of the Jedi. The late side. So there's there's that pattern. There is there's patterns that you can look at these titles and see like usually there is at least one movie the has a blank of the blank, you know, like in the original trilogy. We got return of the Jedi in the prequel trilogies. We got attack of the clones and revenge of the Seth in in this trilogy with yet. Get one of those. I've theorized that maybe maybe the title would be a blank of the blank title. There was like this week on read it that claiming that it was balance of the force. But it's also the name of a a Star Wars video pinball game. So I'm not sure that that's going to happen. So anyways, you can go read my article I'll link in the show notes, I go through a bunch of options that we came down to of what could possibly be the title. I think my favorite title that. I was able to come up with is a last hope and I liked that. Because I feel like JJ with this movie is not just rounding out this trilogy of story. He this is going to be a conclusion to the Skywalker saga as a whole. And I even though, you know, a new hope is not episode one in that story. It was the first film. I feel like a last hope will. Would bring it, you know, either last hope or final hope the last hope I think would bring it full circle by wanted to ask you guys if you had any ideas, Ben, what do you think the title for episode nine could be I like, your idea of the full circle thing. I'm just not convinced that a last hope is going to work because the word last was in the most recent movie with the last Jedi ice. I don't know if they would do that if I hope maybe. Yeah. I'm also wondering if it would be something like something super cheesy like dawn of the light or something that that sort of you know, that that doesn't necessarily have that that ending vibe. But instead sort of sets up the franchise to take a different direction and like start like the dawning of a new day kind of thing. Because Lucasfilm probably doesn't want to just end this and call it a day after this movie. So I don't know that that's the best. I can come up with. I've never been good at guessing the Star Wars titles, though, Chris do you have any guesses here? I mean, all I can say is I don't think it will have last and the title, and I don't think I don't have jet. I in total because they were just used. I also think it's going to be somewhat uplifting. It's like it's not going to have something dark in the title. It's not going to be like the knights of rent, or the, you know, the first order, blah, blah, blah, like it's going to have some sort of hopeful conclusion because it's the last movie in this saga. That's that's all I can guess beyond that. I really don't. I don't think I've ever successfully predicted what one of these titles would be. Yeah. And they've never reused the noun. So like, they've never, you know, we don't expect there to be Djeddai in here again, or we don't expect a there to use force again. But I mean who knows they could go off off the the plan of the, you know, eight films titles before it one of the someone on Reddit suggested that. It could be ashes of the empire. And that is another line that was in the force awakens crawl if you remember the last the last yet, I was actually in the force awakens crawl in lake about two lines above that as ashes of the empire, which I think would be maybe a fitting end to this series as a whole. But I think you're right crafts that doesn't that doesn't have a positive vibe to it. Right. The ashes dark ashes sounds very forboding. I don't think that's going to be the title. But I could be wrong. You never know. Yeah. Some people seem to think that the title was going to be hidden in one of the previous films. So some people are suggesting a new water or the rebellion is reborn or spark of hope, I think is my favorite of those spark of hope is positive right? Yeah. That that would definitely. And that's in the the Crawford last June. I believe so that would definitely be a possibility. Yeah. And so many people are saying the knights of ran. I think the nice of Ren will play a part in this final installment. But I don't think like if you're not gonna get their own title. Yeah. Ridiculous. Like. Yeah. My my favorite thing was all the people on Twitter. Basically putting joke titles at their like. There was episode nine that Star Wars story. Chris I think you getting into it in the slack to you had like episode nine and game. I can't even remember everything. I think of it just immediately a joke because I'm an asshole. I can't look a serious thing for some reason. Yeah. But I do think we're going to get the soon I think we're going to get our first trailer at celebration, which I think is in April. Ish. So maybe March we'll get the title because February is not over yet. But it's already begun March. But even now this would be the latest even if it was announced today. This is the latest we would have gotten the title from Disney on one of the Skywalker saga films. They have like the other like the standalone foams a little bit later like I remember Sola was announced like really late. But in also usually these titles are announced at the end of production like the final day of principal photography this film. It's still shooting, and I think it's expected to end photography sometime this month. So that's my guess, but you could read my whole article going over that and many other titles. And if you have any title suggestions, leave him in the commerce there or Email us at Peter out slash home dot com bullets move onto another huge franchise. Chris. Let's talk about the avatar sequels. Yes. We have a whole bunch of avatar news three. Separate items. So one is beckoned in November. We learned a whole bunch of potential avatar sequel titles titles late, and they were avatar the way of water avatar the seed bearer, which is my favorite avatar, the token writer and avatar the quest for you. I don't know how you say that. But so those are the titles and the the minute they leaked everyone was like these can't be real they sound ridiculous. But James Cameron who runs all things avatar recently gave an interview where he said that those titles have been there in the running. So they're real titles. They're considering these haven't finalized them yet. So there's a very good chance. Avatar the bearer will be real sometime soon. The token rider sounds like a Star Wars parody title, like the like reader something. I think we talked about this. When these first came out on the podcast, and I think we all. Like came to the conclusion that it was a joke. Right. We thought like there's no way this is real. But Cameron says those titles are among titles better inconsideration. And no final decisions have been made yet. So somewhere in the offices of James Cameron is like a whiteboard where they have the c- bearer written out in in marker. And he's he circles at one day. He's like, yes, this is the one we'll be using this title. We're going to get a a negative review on our IT tunes review. Now, Chris that you didn't know how to say Iwo. I know I'm sorry. I'm sorry. E wyans out there. Next up Kate Winslet. Kate Winslet is in the movie and the in in I guess, she's an all the sequels. And when mission impossible rogue nation came out, there is this whole big deal made about the fact that Tom Cruise held his breath for six minutes underwater, which was like a new record. But Jon Landau, the producer of the app store sequel has revealed recently that for shooting the sequels Kate Winslet actually held her breath, seven minutes underwater, so Kate Winslet just one up to Tom Cruise. And he's probably gonna be furious about that and show off a roof or something to get over it, and they'll he'll be fine again. So now, I'm no scientologist, and I'm not like come crews mega fan if I'm going to call bullshit on this. Okay. You think they're lying to just know? Well, first of all, well, first of all, this is interesting because we know that the sequel is going to take place take us to the inside the oceans of Pindar, which I assume is going to be like episode one and Nobu, but. The her. I think he says in the quote that it she was able to stay underwater like a still or way, what was the actual wording. He says Kate Winslet had the train and she got up to a static breath. Hold of just about seven minutes. Okay. Now, Tom Cruise what he did in the movie, which is poorly presented in the actual movie itself. Because like they cut in their CG in whatever. But like originally, I think the plan was to show a six minute long shot of him underwater doing that whole climactic sequence in he was able to do it. But apparently it just didn't look good. So they added at today, and it becomes unimpressive. When you're cutting away that's him in motion, actually doing stuff. This is her like sitting and not exerting herself. And I do know the difference between this because I am as you know, I'm big fan of magic in follow. David blaine. I watched I saw David Blaine live and the Dobie theater. And he was I think he was. In there for I think like nine minutes underwater, but he has incredible tedtalk that if you've never seen it talking about his journey to try to break the record, which I think was like some insane thing like fifteen or twenty minutes or something. Yeah. But if you should watch the tedtalk because it's wood jet in. It's not magic. And it's him talking about the the struggles. And how you're able to accomplish the super human thing. And spoiler alert. It requires technology that you wouldn't have, you know, fifty years, you know, twenty years ago, or whatever. But yeah, I I'm not saying, it's not impressive. But I'm just saying if Kate Winslet and Tom Cruise were gonna go at each other in a stunt off. I think top Chris gonna win here. Ben. No. I don't know. I mean, I. Oh, man. This is now I'm just thinking about what that would even be like, and I wanna see that as a reality show. And man, I'm all on board for that. Okay. Let's talk about the last bit of avatar news. And then involves the filming. Yes. So we had originally heard the first two sequels had wrapped shooting. But apparently what happened is they've wrapped the motion capture shooting, and what they're have to do is is live action shooting. You know, everyone thinks that the avatar movies is almost entirely digital. Because that's how they look, but there apparently is going to be some live action shooting, and this is actually going to evolve easy Falco who was recently announced as casts, and that's that's why they just announced her as being cast because she actually has filmed her scenes yet. So she's filming stuff in live action, which I guess going to be like the base. I remember like the first movie there's a steamer during like a bunker, and that's real. So I guess they're gonna shoot a bunch of scenes of her and like one. Room looking at computers. That's what I'm guessing they had to shoot now. Yeah. There was those scenes in the base. And there was also the scene of. Oh my God. What is the main character the actor in advertise Worthington? Yes. And willington getting out of like that spaceship and his wheelchair and all that kind of stuff. I would say probably if I were to estimate there is probably like, maybe one fifth that movie has live action in it. I don't know. Maybe all looks kinda. When I saw it. I saw it in three days everyone everything looked kinda fake. So I don't know it does seem crazy to me that they have completed their principal motion capture photography. I think they did it in like Manhattan beach, which is near Los Angeles. And further live action of talker for they're gonna have to go to New Zealand like I don't understand why they're doing that. Especially if they're going to be like indoors, maybe they are going to shoot stuff outdoors. Otherwise, it seems like a huge waste of money to fly to New Zealand and shoot everything inside. So I don't know. Maybe there's a big set. They're they're using. Yeah. That's prob-. You make some sense aircraft. It's almost as if you do this for a living. Yes. Who knows? But let's move on from that franchise. Send other franchise the Jumanji franchise and talk about Jumanji two or maybe three. Jumanji? Welcome to the jungle to I dunno. Sure. Yeah. What they're going to call it because it's kind of confusing, but they have announced some casting for this which is a little bit confusing, but penthouse, but yes, so Nick Jonas who played a character in Jumanji. Welcome to the jungle is going to be coming back to reprise that role in June three or whatever it's going to be called in probably have some other dumb subtitle. But. So we know that Dwayne Johnson Kevin Hart and Jack black and Karen Gillan are going to be coming back and all of the younger like the teenage actors who, you know, got sucked into a video game in the previous movie those actors are all coming back as well. But now the Hollywood reporter says that Nick Jonas is going to be coming back in the in Jumanji, welcome to the jungle he played a guy named Jefferson see plane. Mcdonagh who is the avatar of kid from nineteen Ninety-six who got suffered the game and spent two decades there he was basically living in Robin Williams characters tree house in that moving and then the movie wait a second here. Yeah. Let's give let's give spoiler warning for anyone yet to see Mudgee. Welcome to the jungle you can skip the next minute or two. Yes. Exactly. So I'm about I'm about to ruin the ending in the movie. So all right. Just to give people enough time to leave every go the second film ends with the teenagers escaping the game. And then they actually encounter a grownup version of Alex who is the kid who got sucked in the game in nineteen Ninety-six. And now he's played by Colin Hanks who says that the game spit him outright where he started. He has a wife and two kids now. And so everything is all honky Dory. It's all great. So the thing about bringing Nick Jonas's character back is does that mean that Colin Hanks is going to be teaming up with these teenagers again for whatever happens in this new movie, or does it mean that all of the video game avatars who quote unquote, live inside the world of Jumanji? Are maybe going to be coming out into the real world for this new movie? The plot. Details are still under wraps. So we don't know what is going to happen in this new sequel in Geraci three, so we're all just sort of left wondering, what the hell any of this even means do you guys have any thoughts about this? Do you have any I guess any wishes for what you would want to see in the sequel because I know you guys both like this maybe a little bit better than I did. I mean, well, technically their avatar. It's like if you were playing mortal combat, and you were playing scorpion. And then I came in the room, and I played scorpion. It'd be like we're not both the same person. So maybe to someone else get sucked into the game and turns into that avatar. That's my only thought or like you said they come out of the game. I don't know this. All sounds dumb to me. So I don't I personally hate it. If they come out of the game. Like, I don't even understand what that would how that would work. I mean that there that there are any Ville roles too much g well, I mean, yeah, that's the first movie has the game escape, so. I don't know. I don't wanna see the character. I dunno. It's. My only guess about Jumanji three as that in order to shake things up all of the characters end up with different avatars this time around because that would just give join Johnson and Kevin Hart and those guys an opportunity to play different characters like to associate with different of you know, different teenagers in the thing. And not just redo what they did in the previous movie so medically that good idea. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. Maybe one of those other kids will be one of those other teenagers will choose Nick Jonas's avatar in two module three. So I don't know that that's my guess that could be a lot of fun. I I see that as I hope they go in that direction. I really just don't want to see the rock in our world out there that just doesn't sound appealing to me. But let's move on to another story. And this is something that broke last night. I am huge fan of the Muppets. And I've been waiting for them to finally make another return Disney's been kind of screwing up lately. And it has been revealed that they might be getting their own Disney plus TV series for that streaming service that Disney is going to launch later this year. And it's Josh Gad in the once upon a time creators that are working on this Ben would we know? Yes. So the splash report says that Josh Gad who was a voice actor of frozen. He's been in a ton of Disney related properties is working with Edward kits. This and Adam Horowitz, the creators of ABC's once upon a time and also under the Disney umbrella to create a new Muppets show called Muppets live another day for Disney. Plus that sounds like a pretty cool name the idea of the Muppets coming to Disney plus makes a ton of sense because it seems like as you've alluded to Peter, you know, this franchise has been sort of fumbling around a little bit. I we're talking about this a little bit before we started recording. But I really liked the the original muppet movies and also the one from like twenty eleven with Jason Segel in it. But ev. Anything outside of that muppet related has been sort of a bust, really? So the idea that they're coming to Disney. Plus makes a lot of sense to me. I think that's a great home for them. As now the series is expected to arrive on Disney, plus in twenty twenty I don't know, what do you guys think about this? Well, you know, I'm a huge fan of the Muppets from, you know, their original TV series, the muppet babies to their original films. I feel like when when Jim died his son Brian Henson took it over a kind of lost a little bit of the magic ended up being like a lot of these like what's a damp, these classic stories and have the Muppets not as the main characters. And I I know who has been were you the one that loved the Muppets Christmas, Carol, which I think is the best of that bunch. I think that's Christie was that Chris I love, but yes, can't get someone on this podcast. I remember, and I think that's one of. The best of the bunch. But I think there was a couple years there with like Treasure Island and Muppets from space. And so we've got that. It wasn't great. And then, you know, Disney higher Jason Segel to have that movie the Muppets which was fantastic in. If all that up with just such a horrible sequel, and then had that TV series on ABC that was kind of like the office starring the Muppets, but the Muppets were cynical and not happy, and I dunno. I I didn't hate that show as much as everybody else. But it seemed like there was a strong dislike for that. Show. Doesn't seem like Disney understands these characters and the interesting thing here in critically if you're wrong. I'm not sure if you said this here, but the the new show the pitch for the new show is they'll take place immediately following the Muppets, take Manhattan. And that's that's what this report says it's supposed to be in the eighties, basically in the gang disbanded by Kermit for some reason. And they all have to come back together when Ralph disappears. So. Yeah, it won't be a modern setting. So that that's interesting. I I think that could be interesting for because I feel like the Mufid for some reason or not don't work in modern day. They're just so classical if feels weird it's almost like when you see these like, even the new Mickey shorts with Mickey Mouse, they kind of set it in I kind of a classical way. And I think that's because he works in those classical settings, and you know, it doesn't work carbon doesn't work with a cell phone. So the most sick Manhattan, I think is my favorite of the muppet movies. I know a lot of people love the original the muppet movie more, Chris, what are your what is your feeling on the Muppets? And this news. You know, I really liked that Jason Segel movie, and I never even bothered to see that other one was called the Muppets most wanted or like I never going to see that. So I don't I don't I don't know. Like, I I loved that that Seagal movie, and I think actually we wash it recently. And I still think it holds up. So I there's definitely a way to do them up. It's right. But apparently like Jason Segel is the only person knows how to do it and he's not doing it anymore. So I don't know. I mean, just get seems like the type of person that would probably love them up. It's not sure if him in a team with the once upon a time creators, they also wrote the screenplay for Tron legacy. I'm not sure if that's the right team to bring them to life again. But I don't know they were also I think there are also writer producers on lost for a long time, Adam Horowitz, so. Yeah. All of that, just I'm not sure what to make of that combination. Because we don't even know if Josh Gad. Is going to be starring in this. But we just think that he's going to be executive producing it at this point. So he could star in it. And I guess he would maybe be a good fit for that. I don't know he sort of annoys me his an actor more often than not. But maybe he would find a groove in you know, work. Well in context next to the Muppets. I'm not sure. Yeah. There is. In recently. I think this was a couple years back maybe year or two ago, they actually replaced the voice of Kermit or the not just the voice, the voice in performer of Kermit because there are some difficulty there between Disney, and and the Petir who had been performing Kermit since basically Jim died. So he was the guy that replaced, Jim. And so we really haven't seen a Kermit on kind of the big screen with a new actor since those two which can be kind of interesting. I I listened to this podcast called. I think it's called podcast the ride. I think the name of the podcast, and basically every episode they're talking about a ride in usually Disney, theme parks or universal theme. Parks in the last episode was but muppet vision three d which is actually the last thing that Jim Henson directed before he died, and it is I think it's like a two hour episode. But I it dull. Dives into a lot of this. And a lot of you know, what should Disney be doing with the muppet. And so if you like podcast, and you like Disney rides check that out. I highly recommend it bullets move onto another sequel. This is one that Chris actually does care about this is the Halloween sequel. Yes. So the sequel to the most recent Halloween sequel slash reboot seems to be definitely moving forward at bloom house, and they they're bringing in writer Scott teams to handle the script. He wrote the upcoming fire starter remake the Stephen King fire star. And yes, so this this is it's still very early stages. But it seems to confirm that rumor that David Gordon green, and Danny McBride are definitely not coming back for a sequel, which kind of bums me out a little bit because I did such a good job last time. And I'm not really that familiar with the Scott teams as work, but beyond that, it's it's expectedly. The three main leads Jamie Lee Curtis Judy Greer, and Amy managed shack will also be returning. So there's that but beyond that, we don't know what the story is going to be. We don't really know what is going to happen. But it seems like it definitely is happening in some capacity yet. He apparently turned in a treatment that that bloom house and everybody involves loved so. So Chris, I know you're a big fan of this franchise. You loved this. Recent your big fan of that. I remember even in your review, your like, I don't want, you know, saying that you really didn't want a sequel to this. It's it's tough because I do love the idea of, you know, more Jamie Lee Curtis kicking ass, and you know, more Michael Myers. But I felt like that film had such good like closure for her character that it kind of like robs the ending of that movie to bring Michael Myers Bank. If anything I'd rather it be Michael Myers going after, you know, do characters, but guess that's not going to happen. I mean, it could be also someone inspired by Michael Myers. Four. No don't do that. That'd be terrible. Terrible. Ben, do you have any interest in this Halloween sequel? I'm right there with the rest of you guys. I feel like it really. They're going to have to have a very very good reason to bring Jamie Lee Curtis back into that fold after what happened in the previous movie because that closure is so good. And I I just don't know if they're going to be able to justify it. But like I said like, Chris, I'm also not two million with Scott teams as work as a screenwriter. So maybe he has a great pitch in and he's going to be able to crack that code. But I feel like that's going to be a tall order. I think it's gonna be a tough one the follow up. Okay. Let's move onto our last story. We like to end things with the Downer here on slash on daily. So we're gonna talk about the the consequences of this Disney FOX merger that should complete by the end of this month. Ben tell us about it. Yeah. This is unfortunate news, but we've known ever since the Disney FOX acquisition was announced that a lot of employees. We're going to end up as the collateral damage when the when all of a sudden done here and now a report from the Hollywood reporter yesterday, this this they have this. Indepth piece about the impending acquisition, and what's going to happen there. Basically, they said I'll just read the excerpt here which paints a pretty grim picture for allowed the employee's. Their Disney's promised two billion dollars in cost savings. So more than four thousand layoffs are expected though Disney skeptic analysts rich greenfield puts the number at five thousand to ten thousand over time. So it's a pretty brutal number, and we knew that like like I said this was going to happen. Bob Iger, who's the CEO of the Walt Disney company has has really like defined his legacy at the company by acquiring huge other company Pixar marvel Lucasfilm, but when he did that none of those acquisitions resulted in really significant layoffs like this. So this is a tough thing for a lot of people and in which they and why I mean, you know, when you choir company, like Pixar there isn't overlap there. There isn't migrate roadmap in jobs. Secure. There's a lot of people doing the same things that could be you know, the same jobs can be consolidated a little bit. Yeah. It says particularly in overlapping divisions, like marketing distribution and home entertainment. So there's yeah. There's a lot of redundancy in you know, if you're looking at it in terms of just like a bottom line yet. These jobs are already filled, and when you when you merge, these two companies like this they're going to be huge. I mean like crossovers in like air. Yeah. This is the sad part. This is the part where when everybody is dancing in the streets about the X men and the fantastic four coming to the moral cinematic universe. This is what that costs to to make that happen. And it's it's thousands of people losing their jobs, and and also like. The thing that we've been talking about from the beginning. Like, this is not a great thing for Hollywood. This is a studio a studio it's been around for almost one hundred years getting completely subsumed by a mega corporation, and that's one less place for all these people to go to try to sell their stories and make movies. So it's it's it's unfortunate news alway round in. I did see some people responding to our story. Like, oh, put of course, it's going to happen. Fox wanted to sell and anybody that they were going to sell to this would have happened. And I want to say too as a response to that. No. That's not true. If apple bought Twentieth Century, Fox that wouldn't have happened there driving like they might have had a couple layoffs. But there wouldn't have been that crossover that we component. We were talking even if net flex had bought Twentieth Century, Fox. I don't think there would have been, you know, more than a hundred. Well, it's because these are two studios merging that this is happening. Yeah. And this has never happened in the modern era either with with two studios like this. So I mean, this is like an unprecedented thing. And it's I just my heart goes out to all these people who are going to be affected by this. And the I guess difficult part about it is a lot of them are just sort of hanging around in limbo right now. Because like you mentioned Peter the deal hasn't officially gone through yet. I think we're talking about the end of last year we had heard rumors that it might close on January first of twenty nineteen but that didn't happen, and they're still waiting on like government regulations and oversight some stuff to to get those approvals to actually officially sign the deal that is supposed to theoretically happen before the end of this month. But then even there we don't know how long people are going to have basically before the the integration and assimilation of FOX subway work. I know that that's really what it is. It's it's almost as as like depressing. But yeah, so I'm not sure how long it's going to take for this process to happen. But because it's unprecedented. Like this could be a while before everybody figures out exactly what the the new normal is over there. And I do have to say that, you know, this number four thousand layoffs. I know you mentioned it and your thing that there could be even more overtime. But we don't know that number. That's just an estimate. We don't know maybe Disney and Bob Eiger have a plan for some of these people, you know, they're opening their Disney, plus streaming service. Maybe that opens the door for a lot of hires. And I don't know maybe I'm trying to be optimistic. I know it's probably doom and gloom for a thousands of people. But I guess we will probably won't know until later this year how this is going to affect everybody. Yeah. I guess that brings us to the end of today's slash daily. Ben working people. Find more your work online. You can find me writing a clash from dot com. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram. At Ben pairs, Chris where you can find you also slash dot com. And I'm on Twitter at sea of Angeles to four thirteen you can find me at slash home on all social media. You can find all the stories we've talked about on today's podcast in the show notes linked on the slash home dot com. This podcast. Husham daily is published every weekday and tune school play overcast Spotify all the popular products podcast apps. Please feel free to send you a few questions. Comments concerns to us at Peter slash dot com. And please go right in this podcast tunes. Tell your friends spread the word, and we'll see you tomorrow. Okay. What if the whole weaned sequel is it set in Hollywood and someone is taking on the mask of Mike Myers, and he's going after actual like people like he's going to kill Jamie Lee Curtis. Playing Jamie Lee Curtis who played Laurie strode in the movies. I mean, that's just west Craven's new nightmare and also scream three. I think Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah. It's bad. It's bad idea.

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1338: [Part 1] Shut Up and Be Patient by Mark Manson on Psychological Inertia & Emotional Habits

Optimal Living Daily

07:09 min | 1 year ago

1338: [Part 1] Shut Up and Be Patient by Mark Manson on Psychological Inertia & Emotional Habits

"This is optimal living daily episode thirteen thirty eight shut up and be patient part one by mark manson of mark manson dot net and i'm just a mollusc doc happy saturday to you welcome to one of the only podcasts in the world where blogs are narrated to you for free with permission from the authors and websites. It's an award winning podcast thanks to so you and i'm gonna keep the central nine shore for the weekend so let's get right to it and start optimizing your life. <music> shut up and be patient part one by mark manson of mark manson dot net remember that part in the movie titanic where those two you guys are shivering in the middle of the night and they see the iceberg and they freak out and call the lieutenant and yell o._m._g. Iceberg dead ahead and the lieutenant freaks out and swings is a steering wheel all the way to one side and then screams on the phone like thing to the engine room for those lazy kids to put the whole ship in reverse like right this second and and then there's all these smelly irish guys screaming and sweating and closing furnaces and he's gigantic pistons the size of the statue of liberty suddenly stop and urged shakes and then desserts swinging and reverse really fast pumping what i can only imagine his ship propeller the size of australian reverse to try and slow this heaping facet ship and meanwhile meanwhile the two boroughs in the crow's nest or like freaking out going. Why are we turning. Why aren't we bloody turning and then broad the iceberg starts ripping into the side of the mammoth steamer immerse ship. That's barely even turning and there's ice spraying all over. Kate winslet's like nineteen twelve that never happened and leo dicaprio looks like he's fourteen years old. Remember over that part so yeah. That's basically how all of life works no. I'm serious. I knew this guy once he had been obese his whole life always the fat guy mr chubs but then in his thirties after about a year of obsessive exercise he lost over a hundred pounds and not only was he thin but he was one sexy dude. The ladies were always asking about him. Except here's the thing in his head he was still that same fat guy he still had shame attached to his body and his appearance and every time he looked at himself in the mir the light would banned in such a way to always make him appear flabby and insufficient and thus despite his ribbed biceps and his shiny new you absolute. He couldn't conceptualize a million years anyone ever having any sort of fool interest in him. His perception of himself was like the titanic he had swollen the wheel all the way to one side but the pistons in reverse but the thing was hardly turning and emotionally he was still hitting the iceberg. You see this all all the time. People who grew up poor in work and become successful still act like they have no money because they still believe in some deep dark part of themselves that the money money is unreal that they're a fraud that it's all fake and a joke and one day you will all disappear people who were bullied growing up and go on to become the smartest nicest nicest and most interesting due to the company christmas party yet they still harbored this overwhelming sense that nobody really likes them that it's all fake and unreal and unearned and an undeserved and that in the end everybody is gonna wind up hurting them so they don't let anyone get close to them. No matter how love they are the can't ever let anybody get too close slows people who grew up thinking they were dumb but then go on to get a p._h._d. Molecular astro komo biophysics. It's still feel like they have to prove themselves over and over that they can't be wrong about anything ever that any sign of doubt and others is a secret sign of inner laughter that the simplest mistakes or a poor decision will bring down their our whole life like a house of cards. This is to be human. We all have this greater inner psychological inertia in us externally. We may be these li- than fun little little -combobulate of talkative flesh but internally psychologically we are all these massive steamships that take their sweep meantime just to turn enough to not hit an nice berg. This is because our minds are essentially accumulations of habits. We all have physical habits like brushing your teeth every day or flying the cat. We also have mental habits by sees stereotypes. We regularly fall back upon morning. Whether explanations of the world's difficulties assumptions i get us out of psychological pickle title you get the point we rely on these mental habits just as we rely on physical habits they store in rearrange the world for us without having to expend any conscious ages effort there are of course emotional habits as well. Your default reaction to problems may be anger or sadness or resignation. Maybe maybe you're neurotic. Mother condition you to feel guilty about everything thing that ever goes wrong in her anybody's life so you've learned over the years to always believe you're not good enough or maybe the on the other hand you've adopted a sense of confidence and competitive drive that has never left you even as it when it may be should the point is you're basically this walking lumbering habit machine and these habits aka your identity have been built up over the course of decades of living and breathing laughing hyphen loving succeeding and failing and through the years to build up a cruising speed of forty knots or so in the freezing atlantic and if you want to change them that is has changed her identity how you perceive yourself or how you adapt to the world while you better slam that steering wheel to the side and be ready to hit a couple icebergs because ships up to this big tone turn so well life's not like a smart car where he can just jack the thing into reverse and veer into a pedestrian strewn sidewalk whenever you please there there are a thousand tons of emotional and psychological cargo being hauled across a vast oceans of your unconscious be a little patient to be continued. You just listen to part. One of the post titled shut up and be patient by hi. Mark manson of mark manson dot net a real quick. Thanks to anchor for hosting this podcast. Anger is the easiest way to make a podcast. They'll distribute your podcast for you you so it can be heard everywhere spotify apple podcast google podcast and many more you can easily make money from your podcast to with no minimum listenership anchor gives you everything you need in one place for free which you can use right from your phone or computer creation tools allow you to record in eddie your podcast so it sounds great download the anchor app or go to anchor dot f._m. To get started and thank you to mark man sin all finish up the rest of this post tomorrow and speaking of tomorrow on leaving for orlando florida tomorrow that's august eleventh twenty nineteen my business partner leeann. I will be there for a big podcast conference called podcast movement so if you're in the orlando florida area in the next week and want to meet let us know you can get in touch through old podcast dot com or on instagram at old podcast cast by she do for today. Thank you for being here listening every day including the weekends and i'll be back tomorrow to finish his post where your optimal life awaits.

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Jaws 45th Anniversary Blockbuster Clip Show!

Never Seen It

40:52 min | 8 months ago

Jaws 45th Anniversary Blockbuster Clip Show!

"Hey I'm August McLaughlin each week on girl Boehner radio I explore sexual empowerment with all sorts of people like therapists, sex, workers, comedians, and occasionally my mom, we've talked about sex with ghosts masturbating in an MRI machine, small penis pageants desire differences, pleasure tips, and more to join me for in depth reporting, fun and inspiration search for girl Boehner radio on your favorite podcast APP. Starving. In a world where every conversation as about what movie or TV show you just see? This. Is never seen it. COMEDIANS rewriting famous movies and TV shows they've never seen. What is up everybody? Hello happy Tuesday. This is special. We got a Tuesday drop of an episode here because we're doing a fun contest here, this is it is. It is forty fifth anniversary of jaws coming out, you guys know jaws to movie I. Want To tell you the first ever blockbuster have I seen jaws. No, you know that I've written it as part of this podcast, but. We are giving away. Forty Fifth Anniversary of Jaws Four K ultra HD. Blu Ray Limited edition. Everything for we get these Paxi away. We've got a few of them to give away. This is the jobs forty fifth anniversary limited edition. It's available now. This is Steven. Spielberg this legend sustain amac masterpiece, four K ultra hd for the first time three hours of bonus content I ever summer blockbuster film, and this is Spielberg's first big hit won three Academy Awards including best original score. You know the score. You probably do it this limited edition. Combo Pack Lynch packaging. In the four kilter Hd Blu, Ray and digital code for the film Forfeit Page Booklet, rare photos storyboards, bunch of stuff from the archive bonus content, including the making of jaws deleted scenes. Who knows maybe the shark? Gets a house or a car. I don't know an outtakes from the set and much more. See Listen here for the details I got to explain them. Can you believe it or doing a giveaway? I'm frigging excited and we got a jaws in a blockbuster episode here combined with some old scenes, so we could do all special thing for this. So is the forty Fifth Anniversary Limited Edition Four K Ultra HD BLU ray digital. Everything jaws all in this package as well as Lynn packaging. That is but a forty four page. Collectible booklet were giving these away. This thing looks so cool. If you follow us on Instagram or twitter, you'll see pictures of it. We're giving away four or five of these I. Don't remember exactly how many we'll see. We'll give them away for free. All you gotTa do is this. Draw me your favorite scene from a blockbuster movie and send it to the show, and you're entered to win, and then we're going to pick randomly from those. I hope I didn't go by explained that okay. That makes any senior favorites. 'cause jaws started the blockbusters. It started them, so we're giving an to jaws by doing an Ode to the blockbuster here. All you gotta do dry your favorite scene from your favorite blockbuster movie. You can even be loose with the interpretation because jaws was the O. G.. Draw your favorite scene from your favorite blockbuster. Send us that it can be crude. I'm talking MS paint. I'm talking stick figures. You can go all in. It doesn't matter to me. However you want to I'm a stick figure guy. You CAN BE A. Paint Guy Illustrator guy at ipad hand-drawn Watercolor. You, do you? Just draw I'm saying it again. In case they gotTA rewind. Draw your favorite scene from your favorite blockbuster. Send it to the show on instagram or twitter or email. However, we're on instagram at never seen it show twitter. It never seen it show. In. Our email addresses never seen it show at gmail.com. However, you want to get it to us. Dry Your favorite scene from your favorite blockbuster. You haven't until Tuesday. June sixteenth. And then. We will pick the winners randomly. And sent him on out. I feel like is. It's been too long of an intro to make sense this thing. Look so cool. I'm sitting here looking at the thing right now. And this is a forty fifth anniversary jaws limited edition. This book looks crazy. Forty four page collectible booklet. Got Four K ULTRA HD. You Got Blu Ray digital download. Blu really is better I mean. We don't have to get into that now, but that's so good. So, so so but today we got jaws episode. And a blockbuster episode, which is very exciting, some old favorites, scripts and mine. Just to go back through blockbuster lower. And, so I hope you enjoy my job script. MOESHA's just script well as a couple of blockbusters we've done. We'll miles never seen star wars. One of our favorite scenes and Karen. Fisher has never seen titanic. These were also fun. blockbusters jaws made them you can win. This jaws thing distinct so-called. Send the drying. Anything! Can I stress enough how little you have to do for this? Anything. Any of your favorite scenes from your favorite blockbuster movies. Just don't dress on the from a blockbuster video. the look the jokes right there. Go ahead and do it if you want I don't know. Why said not till I. Love You all. I hope you're safe. Oprah healthy help everyone is is is is contributing what they can in any way. You can to try and make the world a better place. Were just dropping this podcast. His Jaws Day that was blockbuster day I'm GonNa it against the last time because I can't this probably. fucking bag is gonNA. Kill me. Draw any scene from your favorite blockbuster. Send it to the show twitter instagram. Both never seen at shell or email never seen. It show gmail.com you gave us on facebook. I don't even know how to run the page, but I it's there somewhere. We're going to pick four or five winners I've got to figure out exactly how many of these get. Next. Tuesday's deadline June sixteenth and we're going to. You. This insane jaws thing. Anniversary Limited edition forty fifth. One Four K, ultra hd a BLU ray digital download. This crazy book got original storyboards and stuff in this book. This look so cool. Cinnamon hit me up. If you have any questions, we'll be tweeted it out and everything. Enjoy my job script MOESHA's Josh. Script Tannock script will star wars script. We'll go down through never seen it of days past. And then I hope hope y'all are. Doing Alright. Fenian anything I appreciate everyone listening. We got a regular episode again on Thursday to to and week. We took last week off so it's okay. I appreciate y'all be safe healthy. Do. She'll do. Send these. Our Jaws. Jaws never seen jaw asset. However, you'd like to cast it. Oh, UB, the captain! And then Be actually you be. You Be Graddick. And I'll be everybody else and the stage directions great okay. You got the you got all the names perfect. Yes. Okay, here we go! Ready Ready this is jaws. The town of Mystic Pizza Mornings. It's a winter morning. Mystic fog rolls into a craggy bay in Maine or Cape Cod or somewhere like that knows the difference. Regardless, it's the see on the east coast, and the barnacles are in bloom. Tug boats and fishing skips dot the gray water, surrounding the seafood town of Mystic Pizza. The kind of place where every shop sell Salt Water Taffy and standing sentry at the door, a wooden statue of a grey, bearded man who looks like a liberal Edward Word User. In a yellow jacket and corncob pipe. The town smells like old fish speaking of old fish. Let's meet the captain. Exterior bow of a ship continuous on the bow of the SS Lee. Harvey Oswald stands. On a salty old man who hasn't had a scallop free meal since he was in the hospital for Angina and sixty five. He's pulling in a net. Those meant to be filled to the brim with crab. It is not boots and cans and guns and a frozen Turkey fall onto the ship. Captain Conference into his. Captain Conference to his First Mate Commander William. Reicher, forty, devilishly handsome, embody to Deanna Troi. Crabs you say that like it's. You say that like it's been a bad thing. What we? Can we go back? I need to edit in real time. Okay, let's start over and your line exterior the town of mystic no! Okay, okay okay! Great no grab. You say that like it's a bad thing what? Pubic lice trying to lighten the mood. I got the joke will we don't joke about pubic lice in this town too much pain too much suffering. Where broke if I? Don't get all soon. I'll have to dock the OSWALT for good. What's going on in this bay? Where's all the sea life? No one seems to know. Some say it's curse. Some say is a giant shark out there. Eating everything a shark in the ocean. That's just crazy. Minorities will, but the nets keep showing up empty I. Still say there's no shark. Exterior Mystic Pizza Town beach later that day. It's a summer day in mystic, and there are beachgoers everywhere kids frolic and build sand castles. Families grow weenies on raw hot coals, still sizzling in the sand a boy braddock. Buried up to his face in sand is having a great day. Until his little sister Susie, six runs up to him, pulls down her swimsuit bottoms and takes a shift. Typical Mystic Pizza Osu's. The I'M GONNA. Get you for that. The boy rouses himself from a sand cocoon and runs after a sister. Susie runs off laughing toward the ocean, unaware that her little prank has left a brown stain on her swimsuit. In the water are countless swimmers splashing having fun unaware that they are in mortal danger. Angle on just past the swimmers, a massive shark fins slips above the surface of the water. It dives down under the swimmers angle on susie swimming out past swimmers trying to get away from her brother. That camera dips below the sea as her legs. FLEX DOODOO FALL! And Down into the sea we follow the flex. They sink into the deep down down until they shimmer passed, an ominous white knows the nose crinkles sniffing suddenly, the still undefined mass turns about wriggling up following the flex from its view. We see just above it lakes kicking suzy swimming away from her brother just past the last swimmers above the surface, we see Braddock, passing the swimmers moving furiously towards sister I'm going to kill you I said Kelly you below the water. The beasts is almost on top of Susie. Closer closer until the massive head of a giant great white shark burst above the water teeth like knives, grab suzy's leg and rips one clean off Oh fuck. Susie you. My leg braddock swim sore the shark trying to beat it away, but it's too late. The shark swallow Susie to the waste. Braddock reaches out to Susie taking her hand. Suzy. No helped me Brad Nick. Graddick pulls her towards him, but the shark has his teeth sunk into her soft belly. That's actually making it work in. The shark wriggles its neck, swallowing susie up to the chest. Brad Back Braddock Poles, but it's no use for Pinky ring comes off in his hand, another wriggle from the shark, and all we can see from it's terrible. Maw Is Suzy's face off. I'm sorry I should on you. The Shark slams his jaws down and suzy. On. Interior Mystic Pizza Sheriff's department. Interrogation Room night. Sheriff Kumail has his arms. Muscle. Like a man who's been on steroids for a year. He has sporadic in the hot seat. Behind a privacy glass smoking, a pipe is captain con I already told you a shark eight her right the shark again I'm not going. Do the accent right the again. Shark in the ocean. Everyone use swam. Past said they heard you screaming that you were GonNa kill your sister. She's Shit on my head. This is mystic pizza. Everyone gets shit. Have it's a right of passage? I know you really think I'd kill her for that. I was just talking trash. What I think you are trash, sister murdering trash I. Don't have enough to hold you, but don't leave town. I'm eight eight enough to kiss. We're done here. Exterior Mystic Pizza Sheriff's department. BRADDOCK walks out of the office shaken. He hits the alarm fob for his power wheel Bentley when voice from the shadows calls out. I believe you about the shark into the light steps. Cop. Captain. Con- How do you even know about that I was watching your interrogation. Your words had the ring of truth to them. Braddock pulls out the Pinky ring from his pocket. It glints in the moonlight. I miss her so bad. Why are you watching interrogation? The fishing industries very important and mystic. You want to get that shark more than anything than meet me at the dock tomorrow. You don't have any more of your sister shit. We'll need it. Where would I? Have that captain? Con Does the. There's a quarter behind your ear. And a small chunk of do. By. Tomorrow? Slight Exterior Mystic Pizza Doc first light will reicher and captain on weight in front of the SS. Lee Harvey Oswald when Braddock appears Warnin Captain I. Don't see why we need. The Damn Kid just grabbed the shit and let sale. There's no shock there anyway. Why would we sail with killer where sailing to killer now get aboard shot the flu, or I'll tell your wife about the escorts will frustrated climbs aboard. Thanks cap wills. Okay, he's just afraid or you not anymore you will be you be exterior bow of the ship. S Lee. Harvey Oswald Sunrise as the Sun rises to meet. Them will braddock and Captain Con. Stan huddled together under a single grey blanket each drinking from. Each drinking from a can of Campbell's clam chowder exterior bow of the SS Harvey Oswald a little later Captain Con. Dropping anchor out at sea. Spot I can feel it. Captain Con opens an ornate box inside of which is a Harpoon gun that the Captain Lifts to show his crew. Have you ever killed a shark before so and I've never even seen. This is madness. Sadness enough to work. Give me a chick junk kid. BRADDOCK hands it over. Once a shark gets a taste of a specific vintage if do. They do anything for another taste anything. This is the key to do. Captain Con gives it a lick for luck. He holds it out. Radically exit will hesitate, but reluctantly gives it a leg to might as well will braddock the captain look over the bow of the ship down into the deep. The captain drops chunk. It sinks as we follow it down into the deep down at goes down down down until it hits. The ocean floor will receive the full span of the shark for the first time. It's massive. Terror from another age. An Apex Predator that's designed to kill, but for now. It is sleeping. We know because it is wearing a sleeping calf. Just chunk hits the floor at one I shaking its head awake. It begins to torpedo toward the direction of the ship as fast as it can up up up. On the bow of the ship, still staring over three sailors, the three sailors we've met before their heads, peering over the side, staring down into the Brian. Think it's working. Oh, it's work. How do you know at that very moment? The great beasts breaches out of the water, jumping up flashing. It's huge teeth, which close around we'll rikers body, ripping the head, clean off his headless body tumbles over the bow and into the sea. That's show. The fin swims from the boat at a fast clip when Captain Con Lifts the Harpoon Gun and tracking the with a scope fires, the Harpoon sips out to find its mark sinking into the flesh of the beasts the shark screams. Clamping the Harpoon rope to tie on both SIP just ship begins to lurch forward towed out to the to see by the desperate shark. Now, what now we wait, no sorry. tilley tie. Cut to bow of the Lee Harvey Oswald six days later, both captain. Braddock have full beard now. Con is reeling in the Harpoon rope close to the boat which time be careful. He still dangerous captain CON Hands Small Knife. We can't just use one of those reveal. An array of long spears mounted to the wall of of the ship. No, you have to do this by hand for your sister. Braddock takes a deep breath, and putting the blade of the knife between his teeth jumps in your best. But in his screams, he drops a knife into the water God God. Damn it. Fight for her life, the sharp turns and begins to thrash still life left in them still dangerous, a murderous look flashes in braddock size, and he begins to punch the sharp grabs a fist, and they sink thrashing and fighting under the surface of the sea out. Mary. There's a stillness on the that goes on too long much too long. Exterior Mystic Pizza Town beach later. Braddock covered in scratches pulls the now dead shark hand from the. Townspeople and beachgoers cheer as he drags into shore. There's a gathering crowd. Sailing towards shore is the S. S S Oswalt with captain con on the bow at a boy I knew you could do at that moment. The ship runs aground in the captain is launched overboard a moment of silence as people look to the spot. He fell then. The captain POPs up agnew. Everyone's here's braddock drags a shark into the center of the beach. He pulls out his knife somehow recovered. He stabs into the body of the dead shark in slices. It open like a town crabs and fish spill, everywhere tons and tons of them then in the middle of the pile of seafood. Is Suzy still alive? Suzie sorry I shit on you. Everyone laughs as braddock pulls her out of the mess to her feet well foot. She crashes as soon as she stands up I. Forgive you, Susie then to the townspeople. Let's see everyone, cheers. A huge barbeque exterior, mystic pizza town beach that evening, a huge barbecues taking place the shark, and it's delicious treasure being roasted over hot coals. The entire town of mystic is having a party. Suzy Place Hopscotch on one leg. She's really good at this. Sheriff male approaches, braddock either hard shelled crabs like a sandwich looks like I was wrong about you. My apologies, okay, sheriff, who to believe to shark lived in that. Have! You ever considered a career in law enforcement. I could use a good deputy. And then he seeks a pig like. Never go. Just think about it off Waqar. Sheriff Braddock is left alone, staring out at sea, shucking roasted oysters alone with his thoughts, then a voice. You did good kid. It's the captain. Thanks captain. Oh. I don't sale anymore. I retired yesterday. Walt has a new owner now. You Captain Con Toss set of keys. Boats have keys like you wouldn't believe, but if I don't call you captain. What do I call you how `bout? Dad. Off Of this we zoom out higher and higher until until we were up past the town of mystic pizza past the eastern seaboard past the United States out to space where the earth is a marble. A huge space shark its jaws wide open. looks poised to swallow the global whole as we. Cut to black. Interior Celine Dion child's bedroom night. Celine Dion, yes, that one just an old timey nightgown is reading her son her on a Charles about six brown hair, French looking wearing black and white striped pajamas and a red nighttime beret a bedtime story. She British Selena. No, she's Franchisees french-canadian and as Jack Google Ocean Water Bronx. But silenced by this sounds of his own final set free. Kate said Zach from the comfort of Siddiq. Not at all trying to help. Worry Jack. You, maybe drowning now. But you're safe in my. And my heart will go on and off. The to lean slowly closes the book. We now see the cover which reads history minus the. Charles Look stunned and a bit horrified. Wow! That's really happened. Yes, son named after all the Guy Faulk. He's three is pretty crazy. But not as crazy as the fact that millions of people all over the world have been fortunate enough to hear me a little girl from Quebec seeing. Every time I read this story of Z titanic I thank God that I was not on that boat that day. Because I could not be here now to sing for. You actually kind of sound like. Shocking. Celine, the on your voice is the most beautiful, but no matter what you probably would not want to be here. You probably would not be here now. This happened in nineteen. You sound like Sebastian. I'm sliding the Spanish. Okay, US slinky on placing her bony finger overnight Charles's mouth now just vocal risks time. Thank God for my talents Selene grasps Rene Charles Handy and closes her eyes. A single tear falls. It says from her I. ON RENE-CHARLES PILLOW! FADE TO EXTERIOR DECK OF TITANIC ON DOC in North Atlantic Ocean, which I did definitely have to look up. Look up Atlantic Ocean. North Atlantic Ocean which I just took. It was a different ocean or a different part of the ocean, the north part of that Osha. I don't WanNa get too far out, but I'm playing just the titanic sinking sing for some background music showed up to the ad that pops up four going sale got. Algorithms your best friend. Okay here we are. And I just want for the listeners. You'd never seen titanic, but you googled. North. Atlantic Ocean well I. The. Real thing. I didn't look at the IMDB for titanic didn't want to cheat, but I did want I didn't want people to know how dumb. But telling you so. Okay a bunch of visually British people. LEGIT had no idea this was a British thing until i. read the Wikipedia Page for the titanic today, so we need to make this really clear and also probably invest more money in American. Education so the British people are a chimney sweep Mary. poppins girls. Madonna jk she wishes. Hot Madonna Slam Gordon Ramsay the. There's some Typo. Sorry, the comedy group Monty Python Elton John Princess. Diana Sweeney, todd unsinkable. Molly Brown Kate winslet late twenty s very beautiful and assorted folks with bad teeth and umbrellas excitedly. Wait to get on our titanic. They're getting nervous and shutting very British except Jack, a super hot, possibly homosexual, and if not, at least has tasted addict by in his late twenties, if British people were white, this would be mad racist. Oh Yeah. All right. Ginger Spice pinching Jacks Bum, do if you WANNA be my lover? With my friends Jack Looks at the folks around Ginger. Any do. Jack notices sporty Spice Flat, chested, wearing pants, doing a high kick in the background. ooh, who's that one posh spice very posh approaches. The niece see? She stopped in her period awhile ago because she works out too much. I? Just want you to know you nailed it. Looks show. You take the one reference. I get damn jackets loss looking at sporty spice. When suddenly there is a small commotion. Jaxkar is over his run is kind of gay, but not Super Gay. Jack Yelling louder than is necessary for the space. What happened? Okay okay. I got a little run characters here. This is Kate Kate. Kate winslet, yeah. Posh spices he'll spike through the deck and now we have a lake. Princess Diana you know her walks over concerned. I'm worried. Ship seems. Ellen John over here's Princess Diana and says you're okay. Boats are much safer mode of transportation for you. Trust my recording with Tom. Cal, tomorrow feels like we're mocking early. Killing Jack reaches in his bag and pulls out an old Timey Dildo. He Janet in the whole now. Stuff is getting Gayer Long. Kate winslet looks aroused and also like someone who has been married a lot way should fuck. Jack looks visibly repulsed I. Have a better idea. Changed Voices. Jaguars cut to Syria Jack's cabin ontai tonic evening. This is the painting scene. It's the only other seen I know from the film besides the pretend flying one and obviously the one where everyone drowns kate. winslet lays naked on a chase lounge as jack sits behind an easel and paints her This is so romantic painting me Jack Paint me like one of your French goes. Sounded Scottish there for a second. For the love of God, please stop talking Kate. winslet looks hurt. I'm sorry, it's just I'm an artist. I'm on this boat I feel crammed I. Need I need silence? The travel to my own world in my mind is okay. I'm used to get in yelled at. I've been married a lot. That's why I'm on this alone. I'm looking for adventures alone time. And Cox. Of Cox? We see. It's really wanted a way going. Deep into my soul is. Like. We see Jack's canvas for the first time. Now it is mostly Kate winslet, but she has a huge cost instead of China kind of like an old Timey Bailey J I understand. Jack May I see your Cock Jesus Christ fight, Catholic just enjoy his cruise for like us. Trying to cheat on your husband. Just say adult male on a cruise alone who loves? Women puts on Glee. Suddenly there is a loud Thud and another commotion heard from the deck this time it seems bigger and wetter. CAITLIN KATE winslet throws on a robe, and she and Jack Run to the deck. The camera follows. There is water everywhere like a lot of water from the sky from the sides everywhere except from the whole where the dildos jam. Chimney sweep is frantically using a broom to get water off the boats. Pardon me pardon. Mary poppins is scooping water often deck with her umbrella sugar on. Gordon Ramsay is using kitchen pots to get water off the deck. He's yelling a lot of angry British words like. And crikey bullock's. The spice girls are singing a pop rendition of sit down rocking the boat from the musical guys and dolls. All of us that was a reference to how the band playing thanks history. All of a sudden we see that Jack is now in women's clothing. Yelling. Jack Yelling once again too loudly for the amount of space. He needs to cover with voice women. The children on the lifeboats Jack Begins to lower himself into a lifeboat Elton John Notices, not so fast I. Know Cochran Smell it. But. I've always felt like a woman on the inside. Society doesn't understand. And won't for a long time probably not until an Olympic athlete teachers, the acceptance, and also how to get out of the shadow of the people in reality TV. Show with them what? Just just a vision I had. Ellen John Pushes Jack Away from the lifeboat and Jack Falls into the ocean. He is struggling to stay afloat. His make up against to run like FRANKEN footer in the pool during the floor show scene of the rocky horror picture show, that's very specific. Cari. Kate. winslet sees this in her. Saying you weren't friends with the cool kids, school and the. Other. Rocky Horror Show in two thousand eighteen. Classic. Gosh okay. Gay Dude from the eighties. That's very nice. Actually Kate winslet sees this and hurries over. Oh, no, Jack! We never got to talk. We have to Fuck Kate. winslet reaches out her hand. Jack Grabs. It on, never let go jack. Or ever. Sweeney todd walks by Holzinger Pi and dragging a corpse sweeney todd to Kate winslet Dude Right Sumitomo. Fairly, but yes, Paulie. Kate winslet immediately. Let's go of Jack's hand Sweeney. Todd has food and it's pretty hot and looks like he can lay it down real good jacker goals water and tries to call for help. Monty Python, Dude, looking down at Jackson's Jack's corpse in the water that human is no more. He has ceased to be cut to clip of the upside. Did it again music video by Britney Spears? Guy Says Brittany before you go. Okay Britney before you go. There's something I want you to have. Brittany says. It's beautiful, but. He's also not. She would fake it. A real. Video. Good wait a minute. Isn't this. Yeah. Yes, it is, but I thought the old lady dropped it into the ocean at the end. Well, baby I went down and got it for you. Oh, you shouldn't have. You probably shouldn't have fade to black. Alexis added that last lasts. Thank you everybody! Hello everyone. This is dot wars. As told by. WILMA. Satan. On a black screen, words begin to appear on the screen and roll up. One episode of Family Guy That was based on Star Wars. The words appear as the voice over speaks in a galaxy far far away a real long time ago. I guess people in big S. animals hung out I. don't really get how this whole thing is in the past, but so then there was this dude named Luke, and then a little animal named Yoda who was really smart, and then this guy named Shibata, and then Harrison Ford and then that half the half sister of. Joely Fisher whose name is Carrie? Fisher remember the TV show Ellen on NBC came out of the closet, and then danced up and down the audience to Bruno Mars Yeah me neither so all these people are out in Arizona hanging out with a couple of talking robots, Gold Guy and three Po and this is all a real long time ago, with talking robots and talking animals and spaceships and shit. Shit this is humans have laser guns and robot friends BC before the common era exterior Arizona, desert, day Carey Harrison Luke. CHEWBACCA and Iota walking around the desert on the way to this really cool spaceship that is supposed to have all the best organic products and mixed drinks. Yes to. My Dad was saying that he would show me this one spaceship when I was a kid I don't know. I think he's dead. I no service here. It's like when they add more cell towers. It's fifty thousand seat Jesus. Christ, whoever that is because he isn't even born yet. You want it so bad. My Dad My. Dad and I went to this patient years ago. It's great. There's all those horse in a lot of good food, and then this real fat blob of flesh who is appropriately named Jabba who grants wishes guys. Can we just stopped talking about Dad's? You know my situation. It's affected everything. Oh, sorry, man, sorry man! If. You. Can get a running start. If it's any consolation I'm pretty sure dad was just like a frog or something. What about you CHEWBACCA? None of us know art ads. Yeah, all. My Mom said that he was dark. So I think I'm actually half black. Interior, big spaceship Interior Day Luke Harrison carry iota and shoebox walk into a bar. Their robot friends C.. Three Po in gold guy are inside waiting for them a suspicious guy in full black costume. Darth vader with matching helmet is sitting at the Bar and looks right at Luke and the gang when they walk over, he didn't check back and forth luke over and over again before looking back at the bartender. UK, Darth, you know that crew or some. Darth these are not gonNA voices. Kit that one kid looks like this girl I used to bang back in the day. What was her name? Something Weird like? Cloud kicker now. That's from that cartoon Tailspin Remember, but I do I. DO THINK I have to kill him I. Don't know why exactly. We we didn't pan over to see three PL and goal guy welcoming the rest of crew. Oh, man, you guys. Were just tag teaming the one girl, and then she loved just kept going. Wild ain't that right CPO people yeah, you're right. I guess we did have to be they're. Going to leave you guys to figure this one out uncomfortable. This makes me now. Yo to leave head to the back. Wait, says she like left. You guys and kept going. So, what are you guys you know? That's right. Best friends I am ready to find Jabba. By some food I haven't had sex in like three weeks in the last girl had sex with we both agreed. We wouldn't talk about it for forty years. Harrison and carry exchange an awkward glance at each other lead the way gold, but wait. I was GONNA say best friends. I think Golden C. Three Po might be wasn't gonNA. Say this week. What? Sorry can I take that again? Wait I wasn't gonNA say best friend I think Golden See-through Peo- might be ups. You, guys don't get in a weird vibe from that dude on all black over there at the bar. They all look over at darth Dr then gets up and starts to walk towards them. Walbro what can help you with? I got no beef with you. Bro, this, Dude. What's your name? Where are you from Luke I? Mean what are we all really? Do Cash. There's how fucking annoying Luke skywalker. I don't know why, but I think I've got a fight you now. They pull out their laser swords. It makes that cool noise when they do this. Darth dude sounds like a middle aged black dude, but has the body of a thirty year old white guy. Is that weird to anyone else? Do. Oh. I didn't see it that way. That is funny because we're fighting over here. Yeah. Let's do this motherfucker. I'M GONNA. Fight this dude who looks like this girl Sheila from back in the day. She will skywalker Skywalker. That's why I thought. Cloud kicker earlier. That makes sense. Thanks knows that. That's the cartoon with Baloo the bear. The one from the Jungle Book Lars One of you guys in that all look around. Confused I'M GONNA. Go with probably at something. have to Google, anyways. How do you know Sheila we used to be a thing? I Smell I smashed like twenty eight years go. Wait. I'm twenty seven and three months old. Oh Shit! Yeah must be coincidence or maybe let's not fight anymore I. Don't know everyone is looking now to I fuck later. I know the princess and I think we have the same dad though iota walks back out from the back. Now. That can't be true. Carry Weight Yoda. Where have you been? Doing ric flair. There's some prime steaks in their boys. They are delicious I suggested those to anyone who wants one also Luke I'm Pretty Smart, and your dad should be meeting you soon you already to meet. Oh Dow. and carry. Let's not talk about that. It would make it weird. Let's get these steaks. They all start to head to the back. Wait Luke. Order the state's medium best flavor plus I don't trust this kitchen how to make medium rare. Cool, man thanks Oh also I'm your dad man. Sweet. So wait, are you end? Pretty. It was pretty accurate to star wars. Veins! A podcast network.

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Musicals w/ Mara Wilson - Ep. 161

Dyking Out - a Lesbian and LGBTQ Podcast for Everyone!

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Musicals w/ Mara Wilson - Ep. 161

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But i remember. I told one of my brothers At a restaurant. He's like dating guys and i was like no and i don't know if i will be. I might only be dating women from now on or or maybe maybe i will but but i like women. And he didn't even look up from his enchilada out your got. Let's together off. Hi welcome to taking out a podcast that will never look at fossils the same way again. I'm caroline bears ya. I'm melody kamali. And today we are taking out with actress and writer mara wilson about musicals that there is so much stuff to get to this week but before i get into any of that. There's just one thing that. I want to address that. I forgot to address last week. And that is in regards to The lesbian bar project show that we did and when we were promoting it on instagram. Some of you notice that lebed alaria was involved with the show and she's the executive producer of lesbian bar project and then people were like oh like after you roasted her and like bringing up the bad things that we had said about the leiria when i say we that doesn't include you melody you're innocent before my time and it mostly wasn't me Like i think i went a little bit more more gentle on a commenting on legal areas tendency to display toxic masculinity. Still stand by it but if she wants to save the lesbian bars. I'm also that and happy to have her help in doing that. Kind of stuff but man cool and the comments people sure sure sure we contain multitudes. Aso does leah right. I couldn't delete those comments thousand. She's tagged in this post. D want her pulling her support out of helping raise money and fund lesbian bars. No no keep it cool. It's not the time to call us out. Speaking of being oblivious that should be a hashtag it might be. I was on instagram skirling. The other night. And i follow new. Women's space on instagram community led brooklyn based event space for women with an axe non-conforming queer people and so they had a post their most recent posts as it stands now is on being oblivious and it is so funny to me. I don't know if it was the mood. I was in. But i cried laughing reading them. It's just a bunch of melody listener. Yup should i read that message. Yes read that message. I guess i should address this guys. I mentioned here there that i partake but i rarely do while recording and we had a message from a listener. Saying i have a question. How often are you stoned. When y'all record breaking out every time. I am high and listening. I'm like oh she's high. But i never think that when i'm listening and not high myself. Lfm projecting the i project. Yeah that's that's such as stone question. Which i love I will admit there have been times where i might have been coming now banter here. They're never further listener interviews. Those three times melody there have been times. Maybe mentally ill high been like. Hey i just divulged caroline going to take that again tomorrow but no if anyone out. There is wondering. It is rarely if ever that answer to that. But when you were reading this instagram posts from the new women's space. You might have been high was definitely there say like. Here's a fun example. Sos this is on. Some kind of message board. As i told the girl that i liked that i want a girlfriend. And she said. I'm butch and i got really flustered and then i went to go make us dinner because i'm at her place tonight and then a comment from tender lesbian on whatever message board this is a. Are you sure y'all weren't aren't on a date right now. And then she follows up and goes. Hi yes you're right. I was on a date to know how i found out. I was upstairs cooking dinner. And she came up from behind me wrapped her arms around me and kissed the back of my neck. And when i flushed bright red she asked me why and then left when i said i had a crush on her because she thought this was like our fifth date. It just taking things slow and another comment to that goes. I don't even know what to say. It's like stuff like that. See i feel like that scenario happens for lesbians but with men. I feel like so many of us missed the signs. That guy flirting with us that we're like obviously everybody knows that we're gay and then like a guy friend will ask you to hang out. And then he's like following up texan. You're like oh oh wait okay. I think i just went on a date with a guy. Yeah you so many after the fact realizations right right to women. This is funny so funny. There's one that says my now girlfriend asked if she could kiss me before the first time she did. And i responded you mean like as a friend kiss and she looked into my eyes and i finally realized she meant to bow man. Oh man. I'm oblivious lesbian. That's what kicked off the threat on this trend man. There's one this girl's texting me in from the context clues. I'm pretty sure she thinks i'm her drug dealer and then she replied to her own tweet goes update she meant. We should meet up. And where's the pick up spot for a date. I'm a dumb ass. An update to were dating now more of that. That's my favorite saffir. Content staff being oblivious. Oh man friend kiss a friend. I think that's something though that straight women do with each other. Because so you know i was looking for evidence of social ronin being queer because i really had a hunch that She is on our team. And then i read her in an interview describing herself. Kate winslet as straight women. And then i saw that. She is dating a man right now. Which doesn't necessarily mean anything. But then i saw all these pictures of her and greta gerwig around the little women time. Those are fun and every picture are either like holding hands or arms are wrapped around each other or one of them is embracing the other and i was like this is the straightest thing like this is what my straight friends did and high school that i would never dare be so affectionate towards any of my friends and i feel like that has to come with a lot of straight confidence that this isn't weird at all me holding you so tenderly. Yeah i mean thinking back. I did do that i swear. I was not aware and had no ulterior motives. That's the straight part of my bisexuality. I don't maybe yeah. Yeah you thought you could get away with it but sneaky not me. I was so afraid that somebody would get a whiff of my aching. I wasn't even a hugger friends sitting in my lap. Yeah you had to have like somebody close to you. Die for me to hug you. Would i was in high school or else. I was afraid you might think that i was a lesbian yup. Yup that's gotta be very relatable real thing. I don't know should we get into it now or in a little bit. Should we just get it over with the talk. Let's just get it over with less do it. You know. I did shell out the twenty dollars to rent ammonites. I weighed twenty dollars to i. Guess watch silent film. Excellent silent film was able to rent for twenty dollars on amazon listeners if he portrait of a lady on virus too fast paced and interesting Do i have the movie for. You is called ami you wouldn't think it'd be possible to spoil anything in a movie that is eighty percent looking at rocks But for those of you who do want the element of surprise for some parts of it. Because i will say the best part about it was The sex scenes really catching me off guard. So maybe skip over the next little chunk of this episode. Because i would love love to tell everybody how this goes down literally literally the first multi we saw. Yeah well it took an hour and ten minutes. If you're curious maybe listen to this if you just want to know about yes the most valuable parts of this film. The first time it happens is an hour and ten minutes in and then what was the second time it happens like one hour. Twenty three minutes and forty seven seconds. I think when it starts. But i think on on our twitter i have the time stamp and the appropriate reaction in a gif form. So you can go there for that. I i wanna say the parallels portrait of a lady on fire are insane. Movies had to have been being made a like when they filmed this. They could not ours no way. They would have thrown that script in the ocean. Here's my partial list of parallels One of them discovers plays a piano. There is a concert that they both attend but sit in separate areas of it. A key character leaves town for a set amount of time giving the lesbians. The opportunity to get sexy. There's a cold european beach. That's the the main setting no electricity. Of course a why. Why have a movie. If it's at all relatable drawing one of them while they are sleeping happen there's also a scene in an art gallery so there is just all these happening. I'm like sits there morissette's right women who has not as that contact yet but one helps one with a course it currently a lesbian film staple oh one character who is in mourning Forgot about that with portrait to knowing glances. Yeah but then eboni offers things. That portrait doesn't like peeing on yourself and then eating a sandwich fossilized poop. It's i mean. I tried to watch it three times in the last twenty four hours. I am upstate right. Now how sitting for a friend elian. I built a fire last night. I it's an awesome lake house right on the lake so cozy so pitcher s built a fire. We got excited to watch it. We fell asleep immediately. Alley went to bed. I'm determined. i have to watch it recording tomorrow. I fell asleep a second time. I had a little haffey and still fell asleep and then we watched it finally to completion this morning. But there's all these skylights it's very. There's a lot of great light here. But when i finally got to watch these sex scenes i had so much light glare on the tv. That i did have to walk up to the television when those came on and watch two inches from the tv. And i'm gonna say it now. That's probably the greatest thing i did this week. I mean i will fill you in on any details that you may have missed. We did stay away for it. You know slow movies like slow oscar bay. It's usually my jam like carol that moved in an appropriate pace for me even the hours. Those good the ours is one of my favorite movies. I like a slow burn This one i was like literally. I can't tell you what the point of this movie is. No then i realized point of the movie is just to be a vehicle for social ronin to sit on kate. Winslet's face to see it and all of its glory so the first time it's like you know nothing is happening really between the characters in the movie ronin sleep in a ally all our of nothing kate. Winslet has just a a icy con-. Yeah yeah she's got a lot of salt water privledge. I don't know. I don't know what's making her so salty but it is Seabreeze got her salty. Okay and then the search around and goes to give her a good night kiss and how else you respond to that for. Returning the favor with oral sex kiss or on. The vagina escalates so quickly. It was funny for her to just be pulling up petticoats to get their yes. Oh yes all the layers. I know. I'm glad she didn't suffocate so that we could get another sex scene a little bit later. The real sexing yeah. I couldn't fully enjoy either sex scene because in the background of the movie. The whole time is lurking. Kate winslet's character's mother who's just like coughing up blood and cleaning her figurines and they have her around enough that you're like ono. She's going to walk in. And i don't wanna think about this woman and her urculo cicis while i'm trying to squeeze any enjoyment out of this and i would say there is enjoyment. I'm gonna go ahead and say this is the best lesbian sex scene. I have seen a movie. Yeah out of left field honestly. I was not that position in that period piece. fully sir. sha fully mounted. Kate winslet descended on her face and she touched herself. Kate winslet touched herself as happened. Yes i mean. I feel like that's only the half of it like the face that ronin makes when she's like feeling how kate winslet is. I love using our character names. We're not gonna use them because you have to suspend reality like you have to forget that. Kate winslet's hands are full of scabs very dirty fingernails. Yeah you have to just be like oh. This is just like a short film. Social ronin in. Kate winslet Acting on their rod desire for each other and uncertian dislike goes to town on kate winslet first and then we see kate winslet's a magnificent breasts always magnificent honestly she has just her body man every time it's exposed in a movie. I'm like i see why yet again. Kate winslet his new a movie. Because i loved her back in this movie. She's got a stronger. Kate winslet here. Yeah the backside especially there's one scene in the beginning where you just she's naked in ucla back and get her front which is so feminine. It back yeah. And then sir sha ruins but yeah are we getting to proving. I mean joe rogan right. I wasn't expecting to see it. You know was glad to be there. Glad it made an appearance. Glad to have her just grasping at the the wall supporting herself as she straddles. Kate winslet's face moaning. And then all i could think about. Was kate winslet suggesting that. They filmed this on her on certian birthday to make it more special and i fear that i will never have a birthday as good as runs will. Yeah how. how do you top. That searches boyfriend whose name i will never know. He's an actor too. I'm not gonna know that name You you don't tap that that is nuts and the fact that they blocked it out themselves. because the sys- male director was very uncomfortable with a female sexuality and didn't want to even pretend to know that black that scene so degree job. Yeah for two straight identifying women. I was shocked that was the most realistic lesbian sex. I've ever seen in a movie hands down like the maderas. Yeah of of any era. it's phenomenal. I would watch just for further research for like an academic purpose. If you're sure these kind of if you're a scholar of these kinds of things. This is top of the syllabus for twenty dollars. I will be watching those scenes again. I feel like. I really need to get your money's worth there. Oh i've seen eight times at least the timestamps and there are other parts were were they make out so it's one step. I you know line was crossed. They keep crossing it. So i guess i'll plot it for that but you know i was thinking the real heroes are the dike friends of theirs. Who filled them in on how to write worm the sex scene and then i realized and kind of hope that it was all the work of one fiona shaw who is also in the movie who is gay at our mike. I wonder how much of this was being like all right. This is how it's done them and just imagining like the three of them over t one day plotting this out. I hope she was involved. Maybe we need to get on a shah on the podcast so we can talk about this. I have well. At least we did get culturally a full circle moment. We got kate winslet drawing a lover. This time we did. We did accept. I didn't go to titanic there. I went to portrait of a lady on fire titanic. Yeah i couldn't help but think even though the timelines don't match up. I'm like oh this is what became of rose after the titanic but before dropping the heart of the ocean and the water's yeah she just became an angry lesbian for for a while and decide to commit her life to fossil fuels and sir sha ronin character is just joe from little women. Take this movie and make it your own. You'd like onto it. That's the only fun you'll get on with it. Play around with a play around with yourself after because take breaks yes do. I grabbed each other's crotches after that scene. Cecilia so like. I paused it as soon as it was done. Just to tell cecilia about the whole birthday thing and that they blocked it out and she was like i had like stuff going on in my head and you just interrupted it. So we're going to have to rewatch that again. Because i want to get back to that place. So my la rewind it rewound it and watched it again moving on to some nonfiction. Some nonfiction There was some big this week that i actually learned about through our patriot facebook for ten dollar a month. Patrons my favorite group as you all know About elliott page coming out as trans and then within ten minutes of me reading matt. I get a text from my mom. That said wow period. Your friend made the national capitalized news. I read it online earlier. And i'm thinking i don't think she's talking about elliott page because we've never had him on the podcast. I don't think i've ever talked to my mom about him. So i said which friend. And then my mom dead names them and then says now elliott page and i said l. o. l. I didn't know we were friends. And then she never responded. So that was the exchange with my mom and you know. I should have just left it at reading the a screenshot from our facebook group of elliott announcement on instagram. And then then been happy for him and let it there. But then i went on twitter. You keep doing that. Big fucking mistake i know. I know i was surprised about the news. I definitely was even though. I shouldn't have been because at this point. It's very clear that we can no longer make assumptions about people's gender or sexuality right right and and of course. I wasn't surprised to see a bunch of horrible comments. And i just think the whole thing. It's really good for transmissibility and just a reminder. It does nothing to take away from the lesbian visibility that we felt when he came out as gay years ago. There was a lot of this of like we lost one. And it's like now. I don't know weird reaction to have to that but it was good to see a lot of other supportive encouraging messages. Yeah especially on porter's post yes. She made one saying she was so proud of him Loves him so much and there was a comment that was like but now you know you have a husband. I hope you are not a lesbian. And i saw. She responded to that. Like i hope you know my sexual preferences and gender identity are none of your business for me to decide. Thank you released your labels of me. I am as fluid as can be. Which i thought was a really. Yeah answer to that. Relies your labels of right like one. Emma's still kind of young young enough. That i would've guessed that she never identified as lesbian and always went by quite honestly now. I'm just getting. I know that a lot of young people do identify as lesbian and identify. However you want and that's so crazy for somebody to be like. I hope you're not identifying as this anymore. Who the fuck cares. How does it affect you. It literally does in. Yeah go watch amanite. Go take a cold bath in the ocean off lime. Go stare at a rock. You realize that we just watched a movie. We stared at someone staring at rocks for a good amount of time. When you add it up anyway. I think that should be the comeback to any queer person. Who's like not being cool about this stuff and who's being gross be like. Oh go look at iraq. Go look at iraq. Is the new kick rocks. Thank you so much and the night for that. Oh speaking of coming out. Pretty sure that ricky lake came out to me and a cameo. Oh my god for those of you who have not seen our instagram. I don't know maybe pause go look at it and then resume and tell us what you think as i say. Say you shouldn't have seen things about peoples sexuality. I know ricky lake one hundred percent definitely came out to me on cameo. That's the news. Somebody write a press release. Yeah it was like. How do i get in touch with advocate over this It is pretty clear to me. Based on all the evidence that has been presented on this podcast via alley clayton You know who. I spotted ricky lake. Hang out at cubbyhole in two thousand that she goes there to be alone and i never bought that. If you look like ricki lake you are not being left alone at cubbyhole Hair lesbian catnip. We love we love a talk show. Host figure tend to where a lot of structured coats a lot of blazers. That's just comes with the territory. Think that's a big reason. Why big on communication Processing along what did you think was going to happen at cubbyhole no she was cruising for chicks like the rest of us and then allie told her amazing coming out story at the lesbian bar project show and then what that inspired one of your friends by you him mio. Yes ricky layered my amazing friend lauren. And she totally surprised me with it. And i've never gotten a cameo before. It's the gift that you never know you want until you have it and it literally made my week. It made my week until hersher ronin made my week but up until then i was just so giddy at this. She says that you know. Maybe she'll dyke out with us. Who knows and can't wait to meet me in person. I'm like you. I wonder why you want to take out ricky lake. So she wants to dyke out with you. And on you to me. Honest and celia. where's that help path. She was looking fine. She was looking great radio. Go ricky yeah and then Our friend sarah hong kong-listed the dike partake takeover. Pointed out that she has been posting their straps. I will say lesbian thirst traps on instagram. Because she's like lying in bed. I'm wearing these very lesbian coated glasses. I would say as if we needed more. Coding with her right right. We already said the gay thing is definitely an i. Was there anything else. Did you do anything else gay this week. There was one night where i was like looking at instagram stories. And hot masbate friend of the pods feed came up and i saw her if those view listeners. Who don't know hot mess. Bien has an off shoe account. Hot mess be and hadi's which is her little like dating service that she's set up and i spent over an hour scrolling through everyone's personal ads. I'm obsessed with personal ads. I'm that's my. I love alley just ran. Lex was popping off like right after we got together. There's something about the It's like a pastime. Super gay of me is like anthropological. I was looking at everyone's like what's the correlation between these like l. a. Dykes and how much of them prefer open relationship. I don't know i was just like how do you do they search. Yeah and this was inspired. Actually because of our facebook group Someone in there was like anyone know any like single chicagoans. You can set me up with. And then i was like this person should go on hot. Muscian hadi's i was just spending some time on their last night. And then i went for another binge looking at it and then i went all the way down and found that lisa. My good friend passed gas to the pod. How to post on there. I'm going to say that what about you. I think i'm up to like eight or nine times watching that scene from amanite. And that's the thing but i was supposed to have another thing. That was the gas thing and that was that. You mean Eric arose and her girlfriend and alina street. We were to go to cubbyhole. We had outside reservations for cubbyhole to have a socially distant hang out. And i was so so excited. I didn't care that it was going to be cold but it got rained out. I'd planned my outfit. Three days in advance already planned out my like thermals long under a situation. I was so prepared excited ready to talk about. Why like plant in my head. That i would see this ahead of that and we would all talk about it and i was like. I don't even think about against thing because that's going to be it right now. Homophobic twenty cancelling plans ruin it but a related thing to that was a sicilian. I were Seeing a friend in need and to cheer her up. Cecilia invited her to our hang and said hey on friday. We're going to a lesbian event. She's a lesbian event. You mean just hanging outing abby. Hold all my god on our little. Google doc of our notes i saw you'd written gay lesbian event and i was like what is she what happened. What did i miss right. Casual hangout. Sealion i have the inside joke that everything gay lesbian event. I'm to have a little lesbian event leader after this movie. Got us fired up if you know what i mean. That's what i'm gonna call sex. Actually lesbian event is that have a hard out at two thirty. Yeah now but allison pasco well with that. We should probably keep this moving today. We are taking out with writer. And actor mara wilson about goals. Many of you know mara as the titular character in the movie matilda and hopefully her more recent work to a big hero. Six the series and welcome to night vale her book. Where am i now. True stories of girlhood and accidental fame came out a few years ago. It's a great read. Get your jazz hands. Ready You know our paths never directly crossed before but back. When you were in new york i used to see you. Out on the uc. Oh yeah a lot before you moved out to l. I did a lot of. I did a lot of like i did ask a couple of times monologue for them a couple times and then i had friends like i don't think i ever took a uc class. But i did. I did do a lotta shows with them. And friends would have me also and i also just like went to a lot of friends shows like at least once a week. I was out of friends. Show i was. I was kind of like so supportive. Yeah i was kind of like a soccer mom to them but like for comedy so So yeah i was. I was always at the pit. I was always i was always at magnet. I was always at all the various places. Q. e. d. So so yeah union hall. All of these places were were kind of my hangouts. Yeah i remember seeing you on a show at the beast. And i had to look it up but it was. It was into stephen Was the name of the show and you were wearing a hat. That made me think. I wonder if she is bisexual. You came out fedora. I'm no it wasn't it wasn't a door. I'm trying to remember what kind of hats. I war in those days. It in my. Yeah yeah i. I'm just generally suspicious of of women in hats and then if it's not a snap back i'm like okay not a lesbian but probably bisexual where on the spectrum. Yeah exactly the way that. I dressed and like the the the boots and like the jacket and stuff like that kind of yeah i i. I had a pleasure. I rarely seen without a pleasure jacket for several years in new york. So like that kinda that kinda says it and like it was really like when i came out. Nobody was surprised like all of my friends. Were like we've seen you make out with women before and we'll give away. They were like yeah and they were like mara. We we know this about you. And i remember when i told one of my brothers like all of my siblings. None of my siblings were surprised. And i'm very close with all of them. there's there's five of us. I have yet big family. But i remember. I told one of my brothers at a restaurant. He's like say you dating any guys. And i was like no and i don't know if i will be. I might only be dating women from now on. Or or maybe maybe i will but but i like women. And he didn't even look up from his enchilada. I'm a non like he was just kinda like okay so so you're dating women now. Whatever i mean. I guess statistically if you have that many siblings right exactly. Yeah i mean like like just to typically it kinda makes sense so i'm pretty sure my sister's oscar. She wants me to cut that out. But yeah i mean my my sister. My sister is also by. So like so like yeah. Statistically it was it was going to happen well while we're on the topic of gay behavior before we dive into our topic of musicals. We do ask all of our guests. What is the thing you've done this week. let's see gave my cat a pill while watching the crown. Wow because because i am in love with olivia colman like this is not. This is not like she's great. This is like i would have sex with olivia colman. I mean she's like happily married to a man but but yeah no like meryl streep is. I can't think actually tweeted this a couple of years ago like like i think meryl streep is like olivia. Colman is to me. What meryl streep is to a lot of women by which i mean. I want to have sex with all right no i. The crown is a very gay experience for me. I know it's like one of the straightest shows ever but it is very gay experience for me and yes and also cats. I mean. I mean how much that is very. Yeah the giving giving my cat appeal and talking to people talking to people about having to give cats pills and that is at length about that. I hope you get the trick treats that are actually pill containers because that makes yes loudini do the pill route i give him the pill rap i give up and i and i kind of wrestle with him and Yeah i definitely yes definitely. That was that was probably i mean. There's not much that you can do right now because if because of covid but But yeah those were definitely experiences for me and i took actually probably the i did this. Week is took a picture of the screen while i was washing it and said spending quality time with my girlfriend. Olivia colman also jillian anderson. Playing margaret thatcher is a fucking mood. Whipple yes yeah i know. I haven't watched this season. Because i did. I watched the first season and then dipped out a little bit. But then when i saw that. Gillian anderson's margaret thatcher s. It's it's it's a very tricky wash like honestly like and she but it was. It was uncomfortable to me on a couple of levels because she kind of looks and reminds me a little bit of my grandmother. Oh boy yeah. My grandmother is not a nice lady to begin with. And i mean neither was not margaret thatcher right but but yeah i watched it and i like i was texting my brothers. I was just like oh this. Isn't this feels so weird. I feel so uncomfortable now. This is so gross but but she's a great actress and that's why we love. Yes yes i can go back and watch the fall and be be be attracted to her. Yes yes love it. All right and then last thing before we get to musicals That were contractually obligated to bring up Have you ever been on a date with another woman. And they didn't bring up miss honey and full disclosure. I'm only bring her out. Because if i don't we'll get like nine hundred messages from listener screaming at us for not bringing miss honey our due diligence. I think that they don't bring it up because they're scared to bring up. But but like but i've definitely had on an official date. I would say they. They usually don't bring it. Yeah it's i feel like it's more of a that's more of a third day conversation you know. I'm glad that makes me very proud of queer women to not but but so many but so many do and honestly like i mean. I can't blame them. And beth was more like my sister. Yeah because she she was you know we were so close but like you can't deny that she was absolutely beautiful and and and like i can't. I'm just like yeah. Of course like who wouldn't have a crush on her. But usually what i do is is. I have my own like my own crush story about. Like working with an actress who who has become also something of an icon. I think and that was right. After i finished filming the rhea perlman had a sitcom called pearl and it was. It was a really funny show. I really loved being on it. And they wrote a part in for me as child genius because i have been playing smarter than i am my entire as my friend says you were the. Oh gee book which exactly thank you thank you. Yes i i guess i guess Christina ricci as as wednesday addams was too but like but like you know gotta give her credit but yeah. I was totally i was. I was very good at at seeming smarter than i was. And so i got cast as a as a genius Studying nuclear physics and quantum mechanics and such who tutors. Rhea perlman's character because she just went back to college in her forties and there was there. Was this one actress. There was also a college student. And i just fell head over heels for her like the moment i met her because she was beautiful and she just radiated elegance and intelligence and she was also very kind like her character was supposed to hate me because she was like really. She was a character who worked really hard at school. But she wasn't a prodigy like i was and and she came up to me and she said i know i'm supposed to hate you but i don't. I really like you and i was like i really like you to and i think like one day she couldn't come to sex she had food poisoning or something and and that was one day a week and i was like so sad that i couldn't see her and and i just loved her and then like when they when the show wrapped a couple years later we went to the party and she recognizes me there and she was so sweet to me and yeah and i was just completely and i didn't realize i was like oh yeah that was a crush that was like a massive crush and that actress was lucy. Liu great i'm glad you brought it up because i'm gonna say everyone is on. Imdb right now. Hearing this story i get to the. That's amazing hills rings true for a lot of yes. Yeah for san especially if you were nine years old and you worked with lucy. Liu i mean my god. It's right and if any years old and have a pulse. I feel like yeah. That's amazing a cool experience. And i didn't know that lucy had done that sitcom because like most people i was introduced to her through mcbeal. Also one of the most frustrating yes. A ratings sweeps lesbian kisses because like your character really likes the kiss and like seems like very queer in it. And then she's i guess i'm not though but yeah you could be. It's okay like both ally. Mcbeal was a very confusing experience. Remain lucy it was a very convenient experience. Yeah yeah and then. And then seeing her. Charlie's angels and everything i was just like but i was always just like good for her. Yeah yeah that's amazing. yeah you know. I didn't really know about the honey thing. Until i started a actually i think hosting this podcast and so many people bringing it up. Oh i'm blind spot for me. Because i actually hadn't seen mathilde when i was younger and blew my mind. It blows everybody mind. I i don't know why. I was just like slightly too old when it came out because it came out and what ninety six. Yeah it did. That's the same year that scream came out so at that point i was like obsessed with campbell and like there was in my life or anything else but watching scott and yet she was like me. I'm younger. I was obsessed with mathilde best friend in my mind. I just have to say i know. A lot of a lot of people have told me that there are definitely there are definitely like of a lot of girls who will who will try and a lot of women who who will tell me. They're like matilda crush when when when we were children like should be date now and i'm like that's a little weird but i will say that. Yeah a lot of people that i have dated have been like have been like have been like i ever actually saw mathilde or like i did but i saw at once. And that's not something i go looking for but it's something that tended to happen. Yeah i think. I also can't deny i can't deny that like you know that that like i miss honey was was a big thing for a lot of people and i and i love the she was for them. Yeah and yeah. I i i love this. She was so there was a time that i was angsty about it. Because i was just like i. I do feel like when i go an official date. People try to be cool. But i've also had i. You're right that. I have definitely had several women. Tried to flirt with me by bringing up miss honey and i'm like let's let's not right but but i do think at this point. I'm just like you know it's cool. You gotta you gotta accept your icon status where it comes from. I mean it's it's a compliment. It's amazing i got to be part of something. Yeah so So yeah it's funny watching it having watched it like fully through For the first time as an adult. There's like miss honey which to a lot of queer women like that. That was like the stereotypical like english teacher lesbian that we had a crush lonner or older woman when we were younger. That had a big impact on us. and then The principle french bull. Yeah yes tranquil. Is like what i feel like people what comes to mind when people think of what a lesbian is so like all of us we think like oh yeah queer women like ms honey and then everyone who's straight as like. Oh yeah that dyke miss trench bull. Yeah you know people have people have asked me about that before. And how how i feel about that and but i mean i do think that. And they're like. Do you find that problematic do you. And but interestingly. Also what. I've been at my. I mean my response to all these things was look i was. I was seven when i started filming that movie. I had no idea of gender and sexuality beyond what i had personal experience. And and and i do think that miss honey does show that you can be a strong person and all the feminine which is something that. I don't think you see a lot of and a lot of nineties movies for sure you know and but also i mean mismatch. Trench bowl i recently. I was asked like what you think of miss being adopted into like the king seen and i'm like is that i think that's happening because i did not know about that. And and people being like yeah like like her having her as like this idea of something and i'm like well that is not something i've heard my mind yet. Mine didn't either but but i mean she does have a riding crop. I mean so. I guess it's not that far fetched also my first girlfriend. She did put. That's awesome and pam. Ferris is is very beautiful and very cool in real life. Yeah yeah so. So yeah yeah. She's great all right well. We won't make you talk about that anymore. Because we did ask you to talk about musicals and just fucking loves musicals. I can't wait to talk to you about this. So when did you first fall in love with musical theater. I was i was an infant. I my mom my mom had had done theater at northwestern and musical theater was just she was also just like a really big sinophile so we watched a lot of movies and a lot of movie musicals and and that was just a really big part of my childhood. Yeah i i think i was just really young. It was something. I have memories of singing along to barbara streisand albums in in the car with my mom and and watching like washing my fair lady in oklahoma and south pacific and the sound of music and all of these all of these things and i think what happened was like whenever my brothers stayed home sick from school or like they were like. I wanna stay up late or something. My mom would like put on a musical and they would get bored just so she. She knew that they like. They wouldn't like try to skip school or try to stay up late or anything but it backfired with me. Because i was just like i was just like i wanna wash more fred astaire movie and yeah and she finally found she finally found Was the fourth child. She finally found one that was into that was that was into as into it as she was so. Yeah and i got i got. I was really into rogers and hammerstein ones and like some early sondheim stuff. That's not so sondheim. Ask and i always loved it and it was so funny because i i got into acting almost by accident. And then things kind of snowballed. And i had dreams of like running away from film and doing community theatre steve for me doing theater like theater and were like real performing in real living. And so that's how i got. I got really into like improv. And then i got really into show choir. And i got really into those kinds of things when i was a teenager because that felt real to me and musicals always felt very real but there's really not as much of a scene. There is a new york. There's really not that much of a scene in la. So i don't know if i've ever been in like an actual regular stage musical i've been in a lot of like weird experimental musicals that like people you know or like what if we can up with the times you know more with the times version of something so like i was in like a early two thousands like rave version of alice in wonderland. That was fucking terrible and like i went to the theater camp but like instead of putting on like a big show. We did There were there were people who did like a musical theater of you but i went to the. I went to the other theater one and ended up being in a play about the holocaust so so like yeah so like parents send their kids to camp and then came back a couple of weeks later and their kids had like you know all of these like like stage makeup dark circles under. There is like saying poems about you know about living in the polish ghettos and things and this sounds like a movie in and of itself does if these like adults directing on cost. Oh my god yeah. It was pretty dark. It was pretty dark. I was i was the narrator there and i was the sole survivor and i was like this is really this is this is not how i expected to be sending my sixteenth birthday. But you know it's all fun. It's so good so but yeah but musicals were always an a terrible dancer. Like i tried to do musical theater. But i'm such a bad dancer. And i'm gonna okay singer but i'm not like a legit singer so i don't know yeah so i was never going to be. You know laura banana audra mcdonald or or any of these like actual actual good singers That's a great thing about musicals. Is that. there's always like it. If you're not a great singer liken audra mcdonald so that you can pull off because a lot of right like i remember in high school I fucking nailed my audition for for the role of agnes gooch. But like her thing is like seeing. Well yeah i. I could probably be you know i could probably be like rda or like a very minor you know. I can do ladies who lunch. I can do a good ladies launch. But but yeah i'm But but there's something about them that really i think like i'm kind of a painfully sincere person. I've always been bad at hiding motions. I've always been bad at lying. Or have i know but i'm really bad at and lake like i. I was like a really cynical and sarcastic teenager. But i'm really not anymore because that's just really not who i am and i feel like those qualities are kinda like their defense mechanism to me and they feel like a very obvious one so i i love. I love the sincerity of it. I love the the over. The top ness of musical theater. And it's funny. Because i don't like a lot of really sad songs like this is this is where i differ from a lot of queer women like i. Don't listen to that music you know i. I don't if i want to be sad. You know like if i if. I want to be sad. I can be sad all by myself. You do spend a lot of time on twitter. I do exactly. That's the even like even like my sad music is like angry. Sad music fiona apple. But where where. There's something you know bikini. Kill or something. It's sad angry. Yes geogra- that kind of thing. But but yeah. There's there's definitely definitely like like. I love sad songs and musicals though because i just love i love the the raw emotion of them and yeah so i could go on and on and i totally am a theater kid and i know people don't like theater kids and i've thought about writing something and i think it's because they see us both as to fake and too sincere. That's what i wanted to ask you about. Yeah theater kids and musicals in general can be really polarizing. Yeah i think that really intense earnestness that comes with loving theater really has an effect on people and i just either love it or you don't with musicals in general yeah you really don't and you don't get it and a lot of people who are like well. I don't like them because they're unrealistic. You don't see these things in everyday life. And i'm like it's true that you don't but also you don't see like in real life men. Don't get the women that they're in love with by stocking them the way they do and romantic comedies. And in real life you know spiderman and captain america don't exist right and in real life there aren't half alien hybrids just walking around like their are star trek and like it's like the none of this is real life you've got to accept that and there's there's some like i think a lot about how there are people now who make videos who talk about the inaccuracies historical inaccuracies of costumes and movies. And i think that they're very right and very smart on a lot of counts but also they're not. You have to keep in mind that like a lot of these. Movies is not about historical accuracy. It's about evoking a feeling are and so. Yeah so so it's not about. What kind of shoes did they wear in in the eighteen. Forty s. What do we have that evokes the most feeling here it's not supposed to be directly representative of it. That's something that theater accepted. Many many years ago out of necessity. I think that that to expect it from film is also kind of silly. Because films shouldn't be necessarily completely naturalistic completely realistic. I think that it should it. Should you know be more about. And that's why like in theater. There's there will be people of different races. Ethnicities ages playing. You know families and bright and children and it won't be. It won't be a big deal. And i think that's it's great that they do that because it's all really about who's gonna bring the most of the character and that's something. I wish we saw more of in film. Hey you haulers. After the year we've had with winter approaching. We hear at daikin out. Understand if you're just not in the best place mentally right now. If you're feeling this way you are definitely not alone. 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We hope that it encourages all of our listeners to support these businesses as well as the black owned businesses in your own communities tune in for these amazing stories and others on spotify apple youtube. or wherever. you get your favorite podcasts. I always feel like things are a little bit at odds with each other in musical theater like things that i wouldn't think make sense. Do make sense so like musical theater. It's inherently very queer has always been a very clear thing but at the same time when you listen to like older musicals or sealed or musicals like carousel or something like that. It's just like so hetero normative like songs about women being in their place and you know a lot of that was just the times and the way the times were but like yeah. It was still always a very quick thing even though you had those those narrow and it was like lot of queer people like behind the scenes or on the stage and then also there are so many conservative people. When you go see a show you know. You had like mike pence going to see hamilton and it just listening mind that conservatives like also love musical theater well the love it for what they think it represents but it's it is very much an and i've been writing a lot about this lately at like rodgers and hammerstein were actually were considered wildly radical because they wrote anti-racists songs and they wrote they had characters interracial relationships. I mean hammerstein did when he when he coach showboat that was one of the first interracial relationships ever shown on stage or screen and although of course the characters were played by white actors. Come on guys but there were there was he was. I mean he was on all kinds of blacklists and everything. And and i mean it's not a music is corny but explicitly anti-nazi yes and and south pacific. Pacific is messed up. Because it's framed as like. Here's a character that we all love but that you're supposed to love and hoops by the way she's super super racist and let's wash her become less racist e-eh my high school put on. South pacific is also a problematic in its own ways and also the only the only like polynesian the polynesian love interest literally cannot speak yep end but but at the time it was considered wild radical. And there were. There was like people in the south. Where like you can't tour here and we have to do. We have to like people were drafting. Legislation against them and harrison was put on all kinds of lists for it. And so you have to keep in mind that at the time these people were they were considered extremely radical. So that's something and we see it now as like kind of anodyne kind of sentimental and like musicals for children but they were trying in their own limited way to be radical. They were they were really trying. I remember singing a song from carousel. Because i didn't know what it was about. And i just knew the music On a film set and kathleen turner found out. That i was singing a song from carousel. I was working with her and i heard her sink. Always hated that musical. And then later on i learned what it was about and i was like. Oh kathleen was right like. That's an about an abusive. An abusive husband like that. That that musical is is fucked up. But they're also where a lot of people like like like you know Lawrence hart who worked with with rogers before he became rogers and hammerstein was was intensely. Closeted was You know closet. A jewish man who struggled a lot with that. And and yeah. I think that. I think that a lot of people sort of miss out on on a lot of these things and like sondheim has been more explicit but a lot of the few like a lot of his earlier shows. I think people consider. I don't know it's really funny like i. I remember like even my. I would have like family members who are very conservative and like very anti sachs work and they would be watching gypsy and i was like i was like guys do you. Not or like my stepmother was very conservative. but she But she saw we assume that musicals inherently kind of sweet and gentle and like my. Because i remember like my stepmother my grandmother taking me to see chicago and and then and then like a getting my stepmother getting the dvd. And like letting me and my sister watch it. And i was like there's a sex scene you know the the first minute in there and and i also had a huge crush on queen latifah. Oh my god. Yeah i was gonna say i saw chicago broadway with bb new word for bb new worth and i became like. Oh just because he's amazing. Yeah she's amazing. I was doing. I think i was doing voiceover thing and somebody was like. Can you do it a little bit more. Like like kind of a bb newer thing. And i was like can be honored. I would be honored. Yeah no she's she's. She's super hot but yeah queen latifah doing when. You're good to mama. And i remember all my friends. Were always talking about like how how hot digs was and he is. He's like a beautiful. he's a beautiful guy objectively. he's handsome and i remember. He would come on on screen. And i'd be like oh my god takes is so hot and then queen latifah would come on and i would just get very very quiet. Yeah hardly yeah. I also didn't realize until queen latifah. Because i had seen chicago twice on broadway before the movie came out and then it wasn't until queen latifah in the movie where i was like. Oh that's lesbian like characters lesbian. Yup it was. It was really. Yeah that was a very formative i was. I would spend so much time in high school trying to get people to talk about. How beautiful queen. Latifah i was like. Isn't she's so beautiful. I think she's so beautiful isn't she. Just and people were like yes she is. Why are you keep bringing this up. Yeah that was that was a formative scene for me. But yeah i do think i mean there definitely is much more representation. I think of like gay men in musicals then you know than than than women. Although i do think that that is changing. Yeah for sure. It always seemed like musicals. That was like a thing that game men were really into and yeah. I was always so into musicals. And it really wasn't until rosie o'donnell had her show that was like oh okay like she's as into broadway as i am because i for like a longtime i always used to be like. Oh i feel like. I'm really just like a gay man inside and it's like no. I'm not a lot of women like musicals to yeah and a lot of them work on them like how many stage managers and like i know i know the set designer for for haiti's town who won the won the tony and like yeah. You've never yeah like like super butch. You've you've it's very yeah it is. There's a lot more behind the scenes kind of thing and there's a lot more and there are a lot who are writing and working on them. I think these days which is great. And i mean we all know fun home. Let's about that a little bit. Well fun home is one of my favorite books like even before i was out it was one of my favorite books just because like it and it's funny because her relationship with her father wasn't like my relationship my father at all but at the same time it's kind of everybody's relationship with their father. I feel like the the thing about like when i when i was like dealing storytelling and writing autobiography and things people were always telling you. They're like weirdly the more specific you get the more universal it is. Yes yeah so. I feel like i feel like that is something that definitely happened with with with With her books and with her writing and yeah and that was a book that really resonated with me. And i don't know. I'm not even sure what it was about it but i i read it and reread it so many times and then you know when the musical came out. Of course i was. I was thrilled. And i don't know it. It's like i remember like being at a campaign singing and singing ring of keys in a room. And just being like yeah. That's now being a camping ring of keeping. Yeah it's it's just like yeah and it's and it's just like and it's still gives me chills when i listen to it because just because it's so and to hear that from a child and just have like. Yeah that's that's such a. I don't know it's it's a very. It's a very emotional thing. It's like actually something that i can't think about for too long like i need to be in the right mood and the right head space for hearing that it's like what is it. I think i've had some friends. I think i've had a couple of friends tweet about this before. It's like when fast car comes on at the grocery store and you're and you're just completely caught off guard and you're like you're like they can't do this to me like i need to find that tweet. Here's a guy at the bryant park station that always covers fast car and my reaction every time my who are you to be doing this to me right now exactly exactly it hurts too much and And so i think that. Yeah i kind of have to prepare myself. Before i listened to that song it feels very vulnerable to me but yeah and but yeah but but i think that that that it is like a work that that resonates a lot. Yeah i think. But i also think that. There's there's sort of like the heterosexuality and a lot of these camp heterosexuality i feel like and there's also. There's also a lot of like how many people related to rizzo brazil from greece. And i've written articles about this because like ramirez frenchie because she was the only one who didn't seem to be like into guy. So i'm like she's not yet definitely frenchie. I know i know. A genuine oprah actually wrote an article about this about how how she and rizzo are like are the fem and And and like kind of like qualify. Butch kind of thing or like as much as you could be in the fifties and and yeah and i've written about that too. I wrote about how i i love. Frenchie like i totally. I really loved frenchie. But i always felt like i was sort of sandy and rizzo's clothing because santa's whole thing is that she's she sentimental she's earnest and she's and she's anxious you know that's that's one thing that i feel people don't get her. She's worried she's worried about getting in trouble with her parents. She's worried about you. Know liking the wrong guy. She's she's trying really really hard to fit in. And and i always felt like that was. She's a neurotic at heart. And i was like okay. That's me but also kind of me too. Because i was i was this strange. Mix of like of of neurotic anxious girl and like tomboys. Tough girl yeah. So so yeah i i. That's and that's something and the characters ended a really interesting and the men that are not interesting at all. they're not i wrote. I wrote an article based on based on like my theory that that sandy helps. Rizzo get an abortion. I love it A couple of years ago. 'cause 'cause yeah i feel like that sandy says. Is there any way that i can help you out and risi's like no. I'm fine but also like nobody would believe it if they were said he helped. Reseau get get an abortion. Both of them would be like no. I did so so. I feel like that's kind of. It's kind of the perfect. You know it would be the perfect. Cover the perfect alibi right. I buy it yeah. That's that's my theory. Yeah i mean there is a lot of You know reading obviously queasiness into things that aren't queer for me. I know it was The the first musical. I think that i ever saw it was either sound of music or i think it was Mary martin peter. Pan the yeah. Oh yeah. I know that one. Well i used to watch it at my grandparents house like every weekend. Yes i've seen it. Probably a hundred times and same obsessed with mary martin because the the rajini and to me it just read so queer was like four three or four when i first saw so you know. I didn't know what it was. But i remember my first crush. I remember that. I had on someone of the same sex who was like a real that i knew was like in sixth grade. And my middle school. Put on Peter pan and they cast this person as the role of peter pan and it was a woman and her. Name is a nikki. Dinky she's like chef on tv or something like that. Now asam name. And i such. I was obsessed with her. It was because of that like mary. Martin queen is coming together. Well yeah this person and was such a queer role and i was like What do i do with these things. Yeah that was definitely. Yeah peter pan. That was that was definitely a big one for me too. And yeah and i also had a lot of feelings where i was like. I don't. I don't know quite how and where to put this right right. Yeah there is. There was like an enjoyment. There was also a sort of like it was like it was opening a box or opening pandora's box or something and then a tiny bit and being like no closing the lid mary martin and then also like julian reus in the sound of music between like her short hair and the nuns like. Yeah yeah my type like the type of people that i'm attracted to are like upbeat types. Because i'm a major warrior. I mean like. I'm wearing black right now i am. I'm always. I'm always anxious. I'm always like i can predict the worst case scenario happening. And and so like like a lot of people i know are the. They'll they'll be attracted to rewrite. Who are attracted to like the sardonic one or something like that. But i'm like i'm like no that. Yeah yeah they want that. And i'm like no. I've got enough of that in me already. Wanted me is enough. I relate so yeah so. I'm like i like i. I like the cheerful another. Yeah yeah. I'm attracted to like the like perky upbeat smiley ones you know. And that's something that yeah and that's something that you definitely see a lot of in musical theater. I think yeah and i. I know a lot of people. Talk a lot about Glenda alphabet from wicked. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah and probably another sign that that i should have had there is that i couldn't stand feo whenever i listened to that i couldn't stand fear. Skip over his songs. And and i love. I love that. Norbert leo butz. I love him so much. I thought he was so great. And fosse burden as patty ski I love him as an actor. I i have. I listen to him as alfred doolittle all the time so i love him as an actor but the character fiero i was like i cannot stand this guy and honestly like like when he holds monroe that and she also did my so called life and i also couldn't stand jordan katana a so like maybe it's maybe it's just when he when he holds and i very much disagree on. What makes them an attractive. I was just like this guy sucks. I hate him. There's nothing interesting in this. You know and that probably should have been you know a sign. I think because You know the the and a lot of people were like. Yeah it's it's good enough. Were in love at one point. You know the two witches were in love at one point and yeah of course. Of course they were and i've also ought friendships. It was never really romantic but it was painful. Yeah and And later on people were like was there. Was that something and sometimes i think it was and sometimes i think it wasn't but you know these things happen. Yeah oh yeah. That's a friendship. I had like that was very close with a girl Who was obsessed with musical theater. And that's how. I got into musical theater. Oh yeah yeah so lot of that. I had the girls in my life. Who have been bad news. Have been really into phantom of the opera. Yeah i actually live. Yeah that that. I've that i've kind of like yeah like i think of like suspected or does she do with gossip girls Girls all dressed in black. You know got gotta stay away from them now. I'm like oh gotta stay away from girls who left. Phantom of the maybe. That's that's me. I shouldn't generalize. But but yeah. But i've been burned before. My girl loves spring awakening and joseph and the amazing technicolor. Dreamcoat spring awakening. Only person. i know. Who's i saw it it with With leeann michelle. And i i did too. I walked out of there so underwhelmed and it like. That's one of the few musicals that i really walked out of like a snooze. I wish i saw something different. I that's so. I mean i really liked it. I liked it. But i didn't. But i didn't love it. Yeah and and i still. And i'm not sure if it's aged well like i tried playing some of the music too to some younger to like this is this is also very funny. Like i'm friends with like one of my ex who is a guys xs who is a woman and and she has a female partner and He one of those things. And i think i played it for her. We played one of the songs and she was there at a camp also and we we played. We played one of the songs. And i just looked over at her and i saw her laughing and she's a couple years younger than me so i was like. Maybe this is more of a generational thing she was just like. What are these lyrics blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. What what the hell is this. But i cried. I cried when it's died. I really liked john. Galliano junior in that part. I cried when he died. I cried so much. Broadway i well. We also were doing like a really deep dive into the play at my school. So maybe maybe. I had kind of. But i felt like i knew the story very well but i wasn't blown away. And it's not one of my favorite musicals. Yeah what is your favorite musical. Oh yeah oh okay. So i love cabaret our love i i think i love to i. I love assassins. i'm. I'm a single woman in my early thirties and i saw i love company. I was very sad. They didn't make the they recently. Had a female. Bobby and they did not baker queer and that made me sad. And let's see. I loved my favorite one. Growing up was my fair lady. Okay but that's one where i watch it now and i'm like oh there's a lot of stuff in here that makes me uncomfortable to watch now right right. You know But i had like an audrey hepburn anna julie andrews thing so turn and a couple of years ago i saw i saw laura anti in it. And she's one of my favorite theater actresses ever and she was wonderful and at the end she she leaves henry higginson. Fuck you and i was like okay. Good so they don't end up together at the end. That's the way it should be. That's that's actually the way that george bernard. Shaw want it to be so they didn't i yes so so i let a lot of a lot of candor and eb. I love a lot of sondheim. Have you seen next to normal. That's my favorite. I haven't okay i. I don't know. I mean it's intent. The thing is well. The thing is that mental illness especially bipolar disorder. Like really runs in my family. So i was like i. I think that at the time. I was kind of like i was like. I don't know how i feel about this and like the songs that i did see i was kinda like i'm not sure like part of me was like this might be too close to home. Yeah but i think it was. Because i didn't know anything about going into it i was like. Tk tsn someone in line. Like you've got to see this musical. And i was just blown away. I mean like i struggled. I struggled a lot with your evan hansen. And i still. Yeah me too. There's a lot of actors in that. Yes there's a lot of actors. And that that i really loved and but there's so many actors and when i saw it i was like this was a really well performed show. There are a lot of really wonderful actors in it. But i did not like it I thought that. I don't like i don't like stories. Maybe because i'm such a true Like a compulsively sincere but there are so many there are so many times in. That's like when there's a story that depends on somebody just Like telling a lie in that that lie gaining so big. It makes me uncomfortable. Because i would just tell the truth i would just not say anything you know and so and so any plot. That's like somebody lying and trying to hide something. It just makes me more and more anxious. Because i'm like. I can't relate to this and and a lot of the mental health stuff in there i don't know is i don't if it's gonna h particularly well right. I don't yeah but that makes me think about other players that didn't age well avenue q. Comes to mind yes. I think i've seen that twice and there's a lot of stuff in there that like you know it was considered okay because it was puppets. But there's definitely there's definitely stuff in there. Yeah there's definitely stuff. Well that's the thing. Like i saw like theater kids would sing those songs and i was like well. Guys kind of the whole point is that they can get away with it. Because they're puppets right. You guys you know you. Guys are a bunch of white sixteen year olds. Yeah you're not gonna look yeah. Yeah there's there's definitely i mean. God knows rent breath. of course. yeah. But right does interesting. Because i i remember. A friend of mine hadn't seen when when it was on broadway and had only seen it for the first time When it came out as a movie and they were kind of confused. They're like what's the deal. But when it first came out. And i think especially if you're you're queer like the important yeah and then being about that time in in new york when he looked back in joanna's the only decent character in that s really. I think joanne angel angel seems wonderful but is responsible for dogs staff s joanne together. Joya holding it together which is almost like a ninety stereotype of like the of course. The lesbian holds everything together. Of course you the black woman do all of the word right joanna's like the only decent person in there and she hoped she breaks up with maureen and finds better friends loves margins discipline. She has she has what i call. She has what i call stage manager. Energy probably Yeah probably i've. I've i don't even believe in astrology. Put updated dated a lot of capricorn's othello and i are both. Oh i have so related. So i think that i also really loved a lot of the stuff that rachel check ins done. In recent years she was an alum of my school. But i love. I love great comment I also have a weird thing with like russian history so it definitely appealed to me and yeah i saw it with philips and in benton and i had a friend who was working there and he was like you can come meet today if you want and i was too shy. She's beautiful my next door. Neighbor was in that actually in great comedy. Yeah who pro rain. Oh my gosh. Oh my god that's such a. It's such a weirdly small world. Yeah i know. I know somebody who worked that. 'cause yeah and rachel chaff. Kin Went to my school and she would sometimes substitute teach and she was very terrifying intimidating and But also amazing. Yeah and i loved. Haiti's town too i. I love the music from haiti's town. I'm so sad so haiti's town is the next thing on my list to see and then yeah twenty twenty happened. Yeah a good friend. Who who's in beetlejuice. Yeah and it was and they like. I mean i wish they could do like stage versions of these because yeah a lot of friends. My my friend. Reeve carney who i knew when i was like a little kid was in Was in haiti town. And and yeah. My friend aid was in beetlejuice. It was. I was just like there. There are so many good shows. And i feel like so many of them would do really well like on tv just like some work around and i'm like why couldn't they do that. It'd be nice if they Everybody well at the beginning of the pandemic like one of our first interviews that we had to move from being done in person in a studio to doing over. Zoom was with Liquid shell pringle. Who had just Been cast in a and mrs doubtfire. Oh yeah yeah. I mean so excited for that because she had had a baby so she had taken time off of work in this was her first big Like returned to broadway since having a kid right and down but yeah so you've now been in two movies that are yeah and well matilda's based on the book and and sometimes i worry a little bit like started doing cameo and people i've had people say to me they're like hey. My daughters love the musical. Can you do a video for them. And i'm like but i'm not yet. Nothing and musical like the book of the musical is very very different from from the movie and a lot of the characterization is very very different. And i mean. And i've seen it and like and like and like i have such affection for like like the little matilda's in ed and like and like and the show itself as a whole but like i don't have anything to do with it so so i feel a little weird and people ask me about it and i'll be like i don't have it's because i felt i think i tweeted the other day i was like sometimes i feel like i should get a tattoo that says i'm not. I'm not associated with the mathilde musical and then somebody who was in the musical said i should get a tattoo that says i'm not associated with the movie and yeah because it's like it's like the musicals great. It's just that like people will ask me for information about it. And i'm like i don't know mathilde and people i saw it with like a writer who was doing theater writing at the time and he wanted to know what i thought of it and i wrote something about it and and i'm always so happy when i see the actresses who were former matilda's show up and things. Yeah like it so happy. I think lawrence the one that i saw she was on Orange the new black and she was in that soviet couple of the beguiled. And i'm like come so to see her In things and met one of matilda's at at a show once and i came up to her and her like equally durable mother. And i was like i'm mara and her mom blurted out. Oh we know who you are. So i watched her daughter reform and she was amazing. So it's it's really. Yeah def fire though. Doubtfire was was based on the movie. Yeah man and i hadn't seen it and and we were talking about. And i was talking with like some of my with lisa and matt. He played my siblings. And mrs doubtfire. I was like should we like. Should we go see this and like and like talk about this or like how are we gonna you know i i feel like are they going to invite us to see it you know and and because the matilda matilda. They didn't because it felt like they very much wanted to kind of keep it separate from the movie and also a lot of british people. I think they feel protective over over role dolls work and such so with mathilde. Nobody ruled out the red carpet with them until two musical. But like with doubtfire. We definitely felt like there was a friendly relationship and And and like a more official relationship. And so i was like yeah. We probably should go see this. And and then yeah and then everything shut down and we were like well not going to be seeing this anytime soon. Unfortunately yeah. I hope that it still wants us as over that they're able to bring it yeah to stage. There's so much. Yeah there's there's so many there's so many things that happened like that that make me so too. So incredibly sad and ryan. I mean i am like i also. I just love going to shows. I also grew up in l. A. where there's not. There's not a lot of theater. Yeah so like like. I think when i went to see i did go to see deer hanson in la and everybody was or maybe it was les miz. I don't know but everybody was dressed up. And i was not because i have pictures of me like going to see avenue q in like shorts and a tee shirt and you know like throwing a sundress for for great comet or something like that but but i was like because theater theater. Scene is like of a more of a fancy thing here. Yeah yeah it's more three yeah. It is another adaptation. That i saw. That's coming to net flakes. I think like next week or something is the prom Oh yeah. I was fortunate to see that like i thought the week that it closed and for me personally. I've never felt more seen in a musical that i watched a musical and related hard to character. I think and i was just song. I'm gonna. I'm definitely gonna watch it because i've heard such good things. I will admit that. When i heard the plot description it felt kind of old fashioned to me. Oh it is. It's like okay. Yes it's this very like. It's such a campy weird premise. And at the beginning. I was like my friend had recommended it to me and i was like okay. I'll go see it. And i started watching it. I'm like this is really weird but then when it got more into the story of the queer girl just like just wanting to go to prom with her girlfriend and all the stuff around it. You know it's kind of like the same stuff with With happiest season which like every lesbian is talking about right now a like when they found out the plot we all like Like what is it two thousand and four like what is this plot but it is still a very true experience. That's so relatable for a lot of queer people. Yeah they. I mean i. It's yeah the thing is like the prom. I looked at it. And i was like this does feel a little thousand four. Yeah you know. And so. I'm still gonna watch it because you know it definitely is happiest season. They actually asked me to be in and then they gave the part to someone else. And i don't know which party was and so i'm like i'm not sure if it was like one of the sisters or like and like i thought to myself i was like okay but i mean i would choose allison breer army plaza over myself so i can laugh that off. But that's yeah. I know it was. It was asked me to be in that and then didn't get back to me. And i was a little sad about that but i actually ended up talking to clay all about it and she was very cool. Yeah so so. She remains which is great. Because i really like her and her work. Yeah and she was very kind so She was like she was like. I'm really sorry about that. I wish that you know somebody had said something more official. And i'm sorry that really sucks. She was she was very nice. We you know we talked things out as sometimes women are known to ask. Yeah i mean yeah going going into both of those. i'm like. Oh these these stories. Can't we get something else. Gives us something else. But at the same time. But but then i watch it. And i'm like. Oh my god i relate to this or that and like yes. I didn't realize that. I still wanted to watch something like this and it still is able to do that so so did you. Watch happy a season yet. No not yet not yet. i'm going to. I'm also also not that big of a fan of christmas movies. I mean i'm jewish. And and it's funny because i was in a christmas movie your but like but like honestly when i heard about it when i heard about about a miracle thirty four th street is a child my mom said also movie about a little girl who doesn't santa claus and i said oh she jewish So so and i like. I like the christmas season you know and i definitely like the christmas season. And there's so my christmas movies that i like but it's not something that i seek out to feel particularly seasonal or chrissy so or may or may not watch it. I mean it does. There are a lot of actors. I liken it. Yeah so so so so i might but like but like and yeah and the thing is like i do like any kind of representation and it's true that there have been a lot of movies lately that and that were like really sad. There's a lot of like you knew that portrait of a lady on fire wasn't gonna end happily but but there was. I did love. I think it was like andy sandberg or something. Some comedian was like a male comedian. Was like yeah i. I didn't realize until that movie. Like how annoying having men in a movie can be like he was like he was like when a man showed up halfway through that movie. I was like what are you doing here. Go away the most minor role to to like exactly. Like i don't think he even has a line. But but i was like. Yeah i was like actually. I was like that was how i felt too. I was just like this is a. This is a women's world you know. Please please go away. Yeah but but i do think i do like you know. I also think that it's possible to do you think a lot of things at once and to appreciate something and be like okay. There are shortcomings here but But you know like issues with this but it's still good. I mean i feel like you know the queen's gambit to it could have lingered a little bit longer on her having affairs with women but But you know. I and there were other issues with it but i enjoyed it. Yeah and that's the thing you know we. We can also enjoy things and be like okay. This is this is. This is something. I like this and then in the future. Maybe do it like this right can we. Can we try to do that. You know we kind of have to work through it. Is there a musical that you have Been surprised to have enjoyed like Maybe an adaptation that you didn't think you would like i mean i worry a lot about about The adaptations of like movies to musicals. I worry i worry a lot about them. Because i feel like i don't know and sometimes i just feel like they don't they don't always translate well and But like like. I'm trying to think of some that i that i've really loved. I saw like when i saw beetlejuice i was like. Oh this is very sweet and wholesome and it doesn't have a lot of the creepy nece. Yeah and it and it actually explorers beetlejuice trauma their own thing. I saw cruel intentions off. Broadway and i was not expecting to like it and it was so fun it was so gay took on a life of its own and really yeah different storylines that you didn't see in the movie i think. Yeah there's definitely like there's definitely some and i think there's a lot a lot of times people will be like on another musical based on a movie and i understand i understand the issues. They have with that. And i have seen a lot. That weren't that great. But i do think that there's also ways that you can kind of sievert things like yeah. We talk about like beauty and the beast versus the beating the adaptation versus the lion king adaptation and one is basically just putting the movie on stage and the other is The other is like kind of transforming it and abstracting it in a bit. You julie taymor. It was to get weird. But but yeah. There's there's definitely ones that that have surprised me in. A lot of them have been ones that were based on movies. I think one that surprised me was a christmas story. For some reason. I never really liked that movie and it was never like the christmas movie i loved. I was like a home kid. And then yeah i like. I like the christmas story. That's actually one of the few exceptions with christmas. So many people loved it and then my sister came around christmas and she wanted to see the musical christmas story. I'm like you know. I'll for her and the actor who plays Mister mister on. Yeah he was in the narrator. I loved it. I'm like this is a great musical. What's one of the most iconic performances you've seen on broadway. I haven't even seen this on broadway. But laura nineteen gypsy. She did She like she does the the strip and she completely transformed and somebody took a video of it and put it online. And i know like patti. Lupone hates that she absolutely. She absolutely hates that. But i washed this on youtube. A million times and then i watched the dressing room scene after and she just gets the transformation of that character of suddenly finding confidence in herself suddenly finding something that she's good at that she's perfect for and becoming this turning from this shy person into this like commanding performer immediately. Which is that was really. So so i loved that i also got to see alan coming in cabaret yes me too. So which she is. He is amazing in. So that was definitely that was definitely another one I loved andrea shields in haiti's town I thought he was fantastic. That both both philip assu antony benton in great comet and and a lot of the characters in amber amber gray. I also in that i also got to see my friend from college. Allies stroke oklahoma. Oh yes. I'm so happy for her because she is so incredibly talented. Yeah and in the sexy oklahoma. I heard great things. I didn't get to see. But i i read so much about the or the revival of a sh. She took a character that is fifty years old and made that character her own and reinvented her and found her in a way. That is absolutely amazing. Yeah and and she and that is not an easy thing. I've always heard. I can't i can't say no as a song of like apologetic. But she owned it and her whole thing is just like no i. I enjoy sex. I enjoy i enjoy. I enjoy being in love. I enjoy these things very much and She she does it. There's a lot of performances of her singing it on like the today show or something and she's just she's just so great and And so i think that was one of the best performances. I've ever seen and i got to be like i know her. I love that. I think for me it might be well cynthia or yvo and the customer s. I was so sad. I couldn't see that. I really wanted to see. Oh gosh. I tried four times during matt and then of course. Bb newer thin. Yes chicago was big. I unknowingly unknowingly saw. I saw chicago on broadway twice and both times. Roxy was played by a real housewife of beverly a when lisa renna was roxie. Her in i think two thousand seven or eight and then one of the last things. I did before lockdown was. See chicago on broadway with erica. Jane who's another real housewives of beverly hills cast member. You know. I've often wondered if i could be in chicago you could. I mean i can't dance it all and is a very dance heavy show. But i've looked at some of the people who've been in it and not all of them can dance either to latter reality stars of ever other housewives franchise and other shows like that seems to be the one. Yeah roxie doesn't have to dance. Much yeah coursing shimmying. Yeah because when baby new worth got i guess was too old to play velma kelly then she came back and play because she had like like i don't know if she had a hip or knee injury and she couldn't do it anymore but she came back again oxy year who i missed which i was so mad and i think she might have played. Velma was brandy. Who and i'm yeah. I miss brand. I think brady would be a good. Yeah yeah and i miss that part. I would also brady went. Also make a good. She would make a good bellman she would also make a good Roxy yeah she she could do either. I yeah speaking of musicals and rodgers and hammerstein. Carello with whitney branding is like yeah up top. When he brought up different family members of different ethnicities going to bring up that yes. Morton adaptation of cinderella can't find it to stream anywhere. Yeah which really sucks. I mean i. Because i knew i knew like that one and i knew like the lesley ann warren one and growing up and like i think like my mom had like the old one from like like it had like fifties and sixties commercials on it. Yeah i don't know. I don't know where we found it. But and then yeah. And then i think we like like we rented the cinderella version and then like and then it disappeared like you can try to find it like it was really hard to find on dvd. And yeah and you can't find it streaming anywhere today either. It's like half the reason. I got disney plus minutes. Yeah i know. I know my sister like my sister got the soundtrack you know and and would would sing all the songs from it after that and that was such a big one for like for like so many girls for sure and i. I was like already well into musicals that time. But i remember being like okay. This is good more. People want to talk about musicals with me musical. Yeah exactly just remember too. I saw a. I have to mention that. I saw bette midler. And hello dolly. She did this time. Surprised my wife with it for. I think it was for her birthday and got tickets. And i didn't tell her and we were just going out to dinner in new york and then i just. We're walking by the theater. And she's like oh you know this closes next week. I guess we'd better go now. And she's smoothest move. Amazing i've been surprised with broadway tickets before and it was and it was great. It was wonderful. Christ my girlfriend with your evan hansen. She really wanted to see it and that reminded me of a question. I wanted to ask you because she knew every word before we saw. Is there a musical that you haven't seen that is like one of your favorite musicals you've never seen but you know all the words to or long standing that you finally got to see in which you knew every i mean i mean one of them was my fair lady i did see i knew every word of my fair lady when i was a danced. All night and my school's talent show and And couldn't hit the last high note and have them like bring it down for me. Yeah i had never actually seen it on stage until i saw it at lincoln center two years ago and Actually yeah that was another one. The actor who played who played freddie was fantastic. Yeah this amazing voice when he sang on the street where you live. And he was replacing another actor who who is just adorable and as such a sweet voice. I wish i could i. I need to find the video. There's a video of him recording on the street. Where you live and it's just the sweetest thing ever and you know it's funny. I think there is. There is something that i think a lot of like. I don't know if it's just me. But i i always identified a lot with like And sometimes i would kind of have crushes on like like the queer coded male characters in musicals. I would feel like an affection for them. Like donald o'connor in singing the rain. You know. Cosmo and singing in the rain or something or something like that or but like there's also a lot of pining. There's a lot of pining male characters. That i really loved and i would like sing their songs and i felt. I felt such an affinity for them like i. I would sing on the street where you live all the time. Those definitely i would say that to like it too like the kids. i babysat. there's and. I think that that's definitely something that i've known a lot of women and i don't wanna like who were attracted to like these very light gentle male characters when they were teenagers and then later on grew up. And we're like but i'm not really like Like leonardo dicaprio titanic and then as they got older they were like. I'm not actually interested in all. But i'm interested in these like very feminine engineers boys exactly exactly centre-stage like the sensitive. Remember that movie. Oh yeah yeah like like yeah and so like i was like am i attracted to our want to be this kind of thing like like i feel that even like watching orpheus in haiti's town where i'm just like i'm just like yeah. I want to be the sweet boy. You know it's like yeah exactly. I wanna be. I wanna be a the longing prince. That's definitely that's definitely somebody that identify with law. No i'm probably we're women culture or queer culture you it is. It is even though. I know like even though i know that i'm probably much more like the loud obnoxious women's singing shy once upon a mattress. Or or like mickey dinky also played that role. Yes throwback from others. There's also a lot of songs like that that there's a lot of like makeover scenes and things in musicals that also i think have kinda queer edge to them like Charming in natasha pierre. And the and you know. The great comet is charming is a song. I love to sing. And that's a seduction song. I think even popular in a way. It's sort of like back. Zombie kind of way in love popular popular or or and i have argued. I will argue for poor unfortunate souls. I mean that is the go-to song of every gay man at kariuki. It really is but like but like that. Seen made me uncomfortable. When i was a child. Yeah yeah and later on. I was like i was like. Oh it's like one woman bossing another woman around it's for the purpose of a man but it's it's also kind of i don't know maybe that's me reading too much into it but i do know that when i was a child. That was something that i was like. I was like whoa. So what would be your dream role to play in a musical like vocal range aside. I would love to be any sondheim any sometime woman. I i would love to be mrs lovett I i really wanna be joanne company. Someday i do a very good ladies. Who lunch is i would love to be anybody in assassin's i think there's probably i'm probably too old to play squeaky now actually the ballot ear inn. Assassins is one of my favorite roles. The ballot who was played by like neil patrick harris so like a very different part than what i would usually play but You know. I love. Sally bowles but i could never play her and i don't think i would make a very good version of her. I love louise gypsy. But i could not play here and i don't think i would make a very good her. It would be fun to be glenda even though i never would. I don't have the rain not blonde. I'm short but i don't have the you know i don't have the air about her. So so yeah but but there's so many like so many like sondheim sondheim women. I guess to wrap up. Is there something you've been doing to fill the musical theater hole in your heart this year. Yes i mean i have. I have like a playlist. That's like eight hours long on spotify in is it. Public isn't but i can make it public. Yeah i can. I can share some of it. Yeah i can only come clean scream singing to musicals and if i haven't lost my voice by the end of the day. My apartment's probably not clean like playing begin playing the i've been unwinding like after i get i get things done during the day. I've been unwinding by playing the video game haiti's while listening to haiti's town Yeah which measures are pretty well. They're both greek mythology. So it's it works of it. Yeah i'm gonna have to make that list public at some point. Yes let us know. We'll share it out. Yeah thank you so much. This has been so much fun talking about musical. Could go on for like five. And i think i have. I mean i've. I've gone a long time but this has been a real tree. So where can our listeners. Follow you on twitter. You're great follow thank you. I'm at mara on twitter. And i now have a have an instagram. So it's at mara wilson on instagram. I have a cameo so if you would like to hear me sing show tunes perfect holiday gift. Me me singing show since two cats. And then yes you can find me. Mara wilson cameo. You can also subscribe to miami newsletter at mar dot state dot com s. So much great writing. Thank you. I talk a lot about musicals and i make up a fake titles for bbc shows. Love it funny because yeah that's that's yes so yeah. And that's and that's called shot we tell the dicker as as one of those titles yes Thank you so much. That was so fun. I felt like we talked about musicals for another two hours. And i'm sure there are some listeners will be here for it. Oh yeah okay. We need to get terrorists. Ner question right now. Let's do it. My ex dated for about six months and broke up almost three months ago. The relationship was great and ultimately just didn't work out. We have different long-term goals and personal needs and other little things and we agreed that we're not compatible. Even though the relationship was fun it didn't end terribly and there are no hard feelings. However i have never been one to stay in contact with an x before and i figured we'd just silently follow each other and instagram and twitter for the rest of our lives but she kept sending me funny posts and things she thought. I'd like that progress to her texting me and asking the hang out which i regretfully agreed to. Because i'm still painfully in love with her. We ended up quote unquote restructuring the relationship parentheses aka sleeping together for a couple of weeks and then and then i broke it off because i was getting too emotionally invested again and didn't want to end up her. Since we both knew the relationship would not work out now. The same thing is starting all over. Again she sending me podcast and tweets and honestly makes me feel so giddy knowing she still thinking of me. This happens like two to three times a week so not a crazy amount but still too often. I am still in love with her. But i don't wanna be. I'm trying so hard to move on and get over her but she is making that very difficult. How do i tell her that. I need her to leave me alone without being rude. Should i just ignore her and hope the feelings go away. She's very emotional and has bipolar depression. And i'm afraid of sending her into a depressive state oof yeah i mean it takes two to tango missing and yeah yeah putting this on her and saying she's making that very difficult at the same time we're it's making me giddy. I said yes to this. I started sleeping with her again. Like you're feeding the beast you're pulling a creed and by that i mean with arms wide open with whitehall bound don't be a cred- don't be creed no you don't wanna do it. You know. this is a talk that i've had to have with my mom that asking for space after a relationship is not being rude. My mom's always like i don't want to be mean i'm like no no it's not being mean it's having boundaries. There's nothing rude about Either you have boundaries or you don't and the person is going to get the wrong message. I don't think that you that it's like just ignoring her. I think it's saying firmly. Hey this just makes it harder. Please stop doing this. And i'm not going to respond anymore. That's not rude by the way. How do i tell her how to leave me alone without being rude you. Just say hey. We agreed that this isn't going to work so we need space. Yeah nothing route about that. If it was a two way agreement and things one trick. I pulled once at the end of a relationship where the person wanted to be friends was i said. I can't be friends with you right now. But in a year we can revisit knows and that got them not to bother me and then a year later they a got back in touch with me. And i said no. We're not going to be friends and it was a lot easier to do it a year later especially after having a year of space that tricks for free. Don't lie like i did. I was in this situation. Once with this so daikin chicago i was like. I'm just not in place to be with someone right now. Like i just need to be alone and then what. I ran into her at a bar where i was on a date and that just ended up hurting her. You just have to be honest. Yeah yeah and then there's that and then also always remember. You are not emotionally responsible for her. So it's unfortunate that she is depressed and has some Some things that she's dealing with. But that's no longer your problem. That's not your problem. Your behavior shouldn't dictate her emotions and her emotional state is something that she needs to be able to handle on her own. And that's not your responsibility. And i know it. It sucks but still. That's not being mean or brute either that's boundaries that's healthy behavior right and speaking of emotions you say you're still in love with her. This is only going to hurt you longer. The more you stay in contact and play this low game. Yeah yeah you need to pull the plug move on and go back to capricorn's cut him off. Cold turkey yep. They're going to be dead to you by if you have questions. Please send them into us are well of questions is kind of drying up at the end of the year. 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Corinne Fisher has never seen Titanic

Never Seen It

1:08:35 hr | 2 years ago

Corinne Fisher has never seen Titanic

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We're joined by comedian and host of guys we fucked and two less lonely girls podcasts Carinthia Scher high for being here. Crin never seen Titanic. Yeah. No. I mean, it wasn't like an accident. It was me rebelling against the popular kids in my high school, and then I just stuck with it. Two if it okay? But he like everyone in my high school is seeing it, and they thought they were so cool. And they shopped that they gap I also didn't shop at the gap for a long time. Oh, well, you can be on my other podcast. Never worn it. Then. That's so funny because we've never I'm not sure we've had someone who's been on here who just purposefully avoided. Yeah. It was it was a protest was in an absolute protest. Glad you're still holding onto it though. That's the best part right there. I love holding a grudge. I literally like kept my Twitter name justify with Alexis and blocked him on Facebook like him face. We shouldn't we should introduce them to join going to be reading some parts hanging out talking movies with this year is co host of the cool against podcast a soccer podcast for American soccer fans. I it's for everybody. It's a comedy talk out. Yeah. I'm also comedian. And he's a comedian. I want that to be set up front. We'll reedit it and we'll switch the order. What's up everybody? Hey vendetta against Alexis. Oh, he doesn't like that. My handle is philanthropy gal on social media because it bothers him because it doesn't make sense. I tried to be a good friend one day and said, hey, you should change your Twitter handle because it's philanthropy gal. And that's a business you worked in. Did. You say it like she wouldn't know it was. This is going to blow your mind. Keyboard. It just didn't make sense to me. Like, you're a comedian. Have you seen your own Witter was like as a couple of thousand followers from that? This charity blog I used to do. She's like, oh, so you man splaine Twitter to me. She Yoshi grudge d- held onto it, whatever, you know. She's like in the stratosphere so like target. She were it worked out for. I remember one of her fans at the time was like fuck, you Alexa. Oh. Funny, circled how many followers she had how many? And I find that time I think only had like forty five less than you. And I was like, yeah. You make a good point, buddy. Maybe it should be guide. Maybe he was like I'm just buying into stock right now. And she was apple in two thousand that guy's furious right now. He. Because he's listening listening live. That's the craziest part in and he's listening library. Title. I one point had at Kyle on Twitter really came out. I just I just got Kyle. And then I was like this is too confusing. What's ad that would have been the that would have been a best. Yeah. Wow. Adopt the ball every once in a while. There is I've pretty much got Kyle across the board and one time. Someone message me, and there's like a model named Kyle airs in Chicago model like a rich kid wants to be a model, and he's like can I have this? And I was like have it for fifteen thousand dollars. Oh, that's pretty low. I know. I was like if you said, okay, I was going to be let's do thirty. I just I give up for fifty because Instagram you can be a little less formal, and I could have changed it to I sold for fifteen thousand dollars was going to change it to would have been the great. And then he goes hang on. And then he goes would you do it for two thousand and I said, no. And then he repeatedly tried to log in like I kept getting notifications. That were like you're getting logging attempts from Chicago. And I was like stop trying to steal the account for me. And then he blocked me on everywhere. And then kept trying to log in. Case. My first Twitter handle was Rolexes, which was a nickname of mine for a while. It was full Lexus. Not taking. Corny likes was also. So bad. Philanthropy gal your Dame watchman, but yo- Ray Kwan responded to something. I said sure. But now that James my name at. Now, someone else took the name Rolexes. And if you search it fucking, it looks like right Kwan responded to something he said, that's probably the only thing keeping you from being friends with rape feel like it is step away. I could have done a skit on a mix tape. If I would have never changed my name. Oh my gosh. Oh, okay. So we'll talk a little bit Alexis. Have you seen Titanic? I have it's been a while. But yeah, I'm not I didn't. Yeah. I don't hold onto some weird grudge. Of course. I saw we've never had. I'm not sure we've ever had a grudge based non viewing. We'll just everyone. I would like it was so intense that like I remember my dad was watching at one time when it was on HBO, and I walked in and I saw and I covered my own is and what? This extra. Socio years later. Yeah. Yeah. It's not even when I remember Titanic famously is like one of the high selling it was like a VHS three. So it was. Streaming on HBO. It's not even streaming was even a word when this came out. Socials this boat was streaming streaming. It also seems like the kind of movie you would watch that's insulting. What does that? Even mean. I don't Kate Winslet. Therapy gal kinda like not even for charity. So let's let's let's before we get too much into it though. At the end of the episode, we're going to play a game that everyone really enjoys called guess, what movie caused data describing having had only watched a trailer and never having had heard of movie and titles and beta were really trying to shorten it down because it doesn't fit in a tweet economy is going to give you a about five seconds of the description here. Hang on any guesses. You might have. And we'll get cash. Okay. So she's arguing with her mom we're going to get back to that here at the end. Lose back. Yeah. We'll we'll re listen to the whole thing too. And we've got plenty of time. And so let's go ahead. And let's cast Corinthians. Shire's titanic. I should meet a cast list because like a play because there's just so many character. And it is, unfortunately, everyone there will be some spoilers in the casting. But that's ok well here have maybe someone just wants to read all the man parts. And someone reads the lady parts because I think there's almost equal and that would either way to break it up because there's so many little characters, and like you'll be able to tell who's a man who's a woman because know, you're gonna know most of the characters not owns a Lexus or whatever do you want. Rowling's this Rolexes. You go ahead and take a preference here. I don't I don't care. I'll do all the lady parts a few like a. Yeah. I was going to cast it that way yet. Anyway, because I feel like a Lexus is more lakes more Trudeau under norms. Not true doubtful. Whatever. He didn't want any that ice that clear we all where it was going to end up with the cast, and I was fine with. No, you're looking around. Everyone was waiting for me to say, why don't you just say what you want to do? And then I'll see I'll say it at the same time, right? Okay. And so, and then I've got a few sound cues here that hopefully, we can't get the computer plugged in here. Oh shit. We're in New York. I haven't even brought that up on the road recording. Which is very nice were at the audio boom studios here in New York since the audio boom. It's very nice. It's crazy to be something quiet in the middle of midtown. Yeah. It's jarring actually. Yeah. And you go on like an old building that looks like the hotel from the shining hobby. And then you come up into this brand new area. It's very, yeah. What's the deal with? All right. And then Korean you'll be doing our stage directions and everything here force. Yeah. Excited. Okay. There. There's music in the beginning. Are you upset you have to listen to the song? I mean, I do love Selena. I saw her live in Vegas. And it was great for my twenty first birthday. Okay. Can you just start whenever whenever you also that the Newsweek no one else is going to be able to hear and for rights purposes? You probably can't you. Oh, we have used we St. the copyright infringement is insane on this show. Yeah. Just no. We're changing it. This is satire. Oh. But I have ads on your show. I'm trying not to think too much about the same because you don't have ads, and then you can just say whatever you want to don't worry about it quietly. We have a lot. I read a bunch of Al for the started right now. Yeah. Everyone loves quip. Guys crying. Okay, guys. It's actually a small vibrator. Interior selene Dion child's bedroom night selene Dion. Yes, that one just in an old timey nightgown is reading her son her on a Charles about six Brown hair. French looking wearing black and white striped pajamas and a red nighttime beret a bedtime story. She British selene Dion she's front. She's French-Canadian and as Jack Google ocean water Bronx. But silenced by sounds of his own finals suffering. Kate said zek saly from the comfort of the deck. Not at all trying to help don't worry, Jack. You may be drowning now, but you're safe in Mahad, and my heart will go on and off the a slowly closes the book. We now see the cover which reads history, minus pasta. Charles look stunned and a bit horrified. Wow. Celine? The arm. That's really on. Yes. Son named after all the guy. Fuck. He's three is pretty crazy. But to not as crazy as affected millions of people all over the world have been fortunate enough to hear me girl from Quebec seeing every time. I read this story of Titanic. I thank God that I was not on that boat that day because I could not be here now to sing for the war. You actually kind of sound like shocking Celine? They on your voices. They most beautiful. But no matter what you probably would not want to be here, you probably would not be here. Now this happened in nineteen you sound like Sebastian. I I'm sliding the Spanish. Okay. Slinky on placing her bony finger over would nature Charles's mouth. Now, it just vocalist time. That's all thank God for my talents. Selene grasps Rene Charles hand and closes her eyes, a single tear falls. It says a firm her eye and lands on Rene Charles's pillow. Faye Faye to exterior deck of Titanic on doc in North Atlantic Ocean, which I did definitely have to look up. Because you look up Atlantic Ocean specifically North Atlantic Ocean, which I just took a different ocean or a different part of the ocean. The north part of that ocean. I don't wanna get up, but I'm playing just the Titanic sinking sing for some background music. Shout out to the ad that pops up four going sale. Algorithm. So your best friend. Yeah. Okay. Here we are on the and I just want for the listeners you've never seen Titanic, but you Google North Atlantic Ocean. Well, I well because since the real. Real thing. I didn't look at the IMDB Titanic because I didn't want to cheat. But I did want. I didn't want people that just know how dumb I. But I'm telling you, so we'll bleep it out. Revealed. Okay. A bunch of visually British people legit had no idea. This was a British thing until I read the Wikipedia page for the Titanic today. So we need to make this really clear and also probably invest more money in American education. So the British people are chimney sweep Mary Poppins, Spice, Girls, Madonna JK. She wishes. Hot Madonna slam. Gordon ramsay. There's some typo. Sorry. The comedy group. Monty python? Elton. John Princess, Diana Sweeney, Todd unsinkable, Molly Brown, Kate Winslet, late twenties, very beautiful and assorted folks with bad teeth and umbrellas excitedly, wait to get on our Titanic. He's they are getting nervous and shutting all very British accent. Jack a super hot possibly homosexual. And if not at least has tasted addict guy in his late twenty s if British people were white this would be mad racist. Oh, yeah. Right. Ginger spice pinching, Jack's bum. If you wanna be my lover, you're with my friends, Jack looks at the folks around ginger, hopefully, and he do. Jack notices sporty spice flat chested and wearing pants doing a high kick in the background. Ooh. Who's that? One posh Bice, very posh approaches. That's Melanie c she stopped in her period of while ago because she works out too much. I mean, I just want you to know you nailed it. Defend it. Alexa, show take the one reference. I get damn jackets loss looking at sporty spice. When suddenly there is a small commotion jaxkar Curry's over his run is kind of gay, but not super guy, Jack yelling. But like louder than is necessary for the space. What happened? Let's get. Okay. Okay. I got a little run a characters here. Yeah. This is Kate kisses Kate Winslet. Yeah. Push by his he'll spike through the deck. And now we have a lake. Princess, diana. You know, her walks over concerned. I'm worried ship doors. It seems. Ellen John over. Here's Princess, Diana and says euro KYW boats are much safer mode of transportation for you trust my recording. With Tom Cal tomorrow. Feels like we're mocking him a day early killing. Jack reaches in his bag and pulls out an old tiny dildo. He Janet in the whole now stuff is getting gayer. Kate Winslet looks aroused. And also like someone who has been married a lot way should fuck. Jack looks visibly repulsed. I have a better idea change vices. The Jaguars cut to interior Jack's cabin Titanic evening. This is the painting scene. It's the only other seen. I know from the film besides the pretend flying one, and obviously the one where everyone drowns Kate Winslet. Lays naked on a shea Sloan as Jack sits behind an easel and paints her. This is romantic painting may Jack paint me. Like, one of your French goes from sounded Scottish there for a second. For the love of God. Please stop talking. Kate. Winslet looks hurt. I'm sorry. It's just I'm an artist. I'm on this boat. I feel crammed I need. I didn't silence. The travel to my own world in my mind is so Kay. I'm used to get in yelled at I've been married a lot. That's why I'm on this boat alone. I'm looking forward ventures alone time and Cox. I don't know of Cox. We we. It's really wanted to avoid going deep into my soul is. We see Jack's canvas for the first time. Now, it is mostly Kate Winslet, but she has a huge cop instead of China. Kind of like an old timey Bailey j I understand Jack may I see your cock Jesus Christ Kate Catholic just enjoy this cruise for like a secular trying to cheat on your hose. I'm just a straight adult male own cruise alone who loves it. Women puts on glee. Suddenly there is a loud thud and another commotion heard from the deck. This time it seems bigger and wetter Caitlin. Kate Winslet throws on a robe and she and Jack run to the deck. The camera follows there is water everywhere. Like a lot of water from the sky from the sides everywhere except from the whole where the dildo is James. Chimney. Sweep is frantically using a broom to get water off the boats. Pardon me, pardon me. Mary Poppins is scooping water off the deck with her umbrella sugar on it. Gordon Ramsay is using kitchen. Pots to get water off the deck. He's yelling a lot of angry British words, like bullocks and crikey Bullock. The Spice Girls are singing pop rendition of sit down you're rocking, the boat from the musical guys and dolls all of us that was a reference to how the vanden stop playing. Thanks history. All of a sudden, we see that Jack is now in women's clothing. Yelling Jack yelling once again too loudly for the amount of space. He needs to cover with his voice women are children on the lifeboats. Jack begins to lower himself into a lifeboat Elton, John notices, not so fast. I know a cock when I smell it. But, but I've always felt a woman on the inside society doesn't understand. And won't for a long time. Probably not until it Olympic athlete teaches us. The acceptance and also how to get out of the shadow of all the people in reality TV show with them. What just just a vision? I had in John pushes Jack away from the lifeboat and Jack falls into the ocean. He is struggling to stay afloat his makeup against to run. Like Franken footer in the pool during the floor show scene of the rocky horror picture show. That's very specific. All right, people will know, I Kate winslet's sees this and her you're saying, you weren't friends with the cool kids school. Yeah. And the other rocky horror show in two thousand eighteen. Classic. Gosh. Okay. Rid is a gay dude from the eighties. That's very nice, actually, Kate Winslet sees this and hurries over. No, jack. We never got to fuck. We have to fuck. Kate Winslet reaches out her hand, Jack grabs that I'll never let go Jack or ever. Sweeney. Todd walks by holding by and dragging a corpse Sweeney Todd to Kate Winslet a subdued right swinging town. Yeah. Fairly. But yes, paulie, Kate Winslet immediate let let's go of Jackson Sweeney Todd has food and is pretty hot and looks like he can lay it down real good jacker goals. Water and tries to call for help. Monty python? Dude, looking down at Jackson's Jack's corpse in the water that human is no more. He has ceased to be cut to clip of the hoops. I did it again music video by Britney Spears. Hot guy says Brittany before you go. Okay. A Britney for you. Go. There's something I want you to have Britney says is beautiful. But what he's also not our. She would fake it. A real clip from the video. Good. Wait a minute, isn't this? Yeah. Yes. It is. But I thought the old lady dropped it into the ocean at the end well, baby. I went down and got it for you. 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I was like defending it as long a long time for this prestige thing, but it's just because it's sort of like a cinematic achievement more like the creation of it in less the actual story of it. But it's like it was a very expensive movie. Right. And like the Bill and stuff was cool. I mean, I I know the only found the boat in one thousand nine hundred eighty five, but then it just changed James Cameron and do a weirdo who goes into submarines. He's trying to go to the depths of the ocean to find more Titanic stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I think Jack wins his way onto the boat. He sneaks. I think he wins in a card game or something sneaks on the boat wins a ticket. He manages to get on the boat. He's super poor, and he has to stay downstairs with like the like the, and then there's like class showing like Jack is poor and look at the poor people are happier because they're in their lives, but they're crammed in this area. And then the rich people are upstairs dancing around and eating caviar. Okay. And they have like gallows in balls. And if you wanna go on it, they're making another Titanic like in our live Sarah making the boat, and it's going to go the path. Why would it sounds like there's going to be a shooting down there? Well, it's there's also doing I what the thing that. That's the thing that like I feel like someone would go and like 'cause there's a shooting every day and every place I feel like someone would shoot people on there. Seriously it starting in England. So they'll be they'll whack them. Yeah. Yeah. Never mind. Couple of we're going to get shanked shooting Ville, wait until it says we're in America. Nervous about seem. I can tell there's one on the on the I wear a new one on the way here. Yeah. Yeah. Come on guys. There was one of the Bart in southern California wanted to show a few months ago. Wow. Nice stuff. I like it back in the old days when I was growing up in like one person will get Shafi some shit, and everyone just continue to hang out at that, Lauren. Not now where a guy walked eight K. Yeah. One person, you know, who it was. And they had it common. Clearly scared if you think that remaking its identity someone's getting also starting in the world has changed some they're remaking a boat that very famously sank. And that's not what you're worried about happening me. Thinking it would be incredible. If it sank again, could you be mad mad, would you be like a few died on it? Now. Would you be mad? If you've not going on the Titanic been the way down you'd be like, all right? Is getting killed under the weight of irony and an iceberg. You like so this is what it was like this. Oh, yeah. I remember then the boat starts sinking. And they're still an hour and a half of the movie. Okay. If not a little bit more of that. And then it's all about them trying to escape, and I think that's what made it so significant is that that movie came out a little bit after they were able to sort of piece together. Exactly what happened. Okay. Because I was like didn't it take a while for the actual boat to sink? Yeah. Because the iceberg put a hole in it. Right. And then they tried to turn so hard that. That's what the cheap rivets. I only know this because I went to the museum they had it in AC, and I stepped over the boundary, and I touched a piece of the Titanic and the guys like you're out of here. And I'm like, I won't do it again. He's like all right. Get back in. It was pretty cool, but the rivets burst. And that's what started to and the boat was turning so hard and it started to snap and a half. Wow. That's the issue. So the the iceberg was like a guy punch you and then you fell back and got hit by a car. That's essentially what happened. The iceberg was like this one little thing. That cat honest could have seen combat. Tire time literally giant. Here's a here's a doesn't have to have seen the movie to understand fact about the movie Titanic Kate Winslet Leonardo Di Caprio or not the first choices for these roles. Really the rules were tried to be worked out with Gwyneth Paltrow and Matthew, mcconaughey. Hey, I Lee Matthew mcconnahey field mod. It's hard to picture. Right. Well, that is because he always kinda has always looked older than Leonardo DiCaprio ever has. Yes. That makes sense. Yeah. Movies. He looks ten but Matthew mcconaughey in dazed and confused looks older than Leonardo DiCaprio does now. Well, that's why it's weird because in the movie do the dress leader DeNardo DiCaprio looks significantly younger than Kate Winslet. I don't think so because Billy Zane is the foil in the hobby and really saying. Saying is is who is supposed to be wed to Kate Winslet, and she doesn't want. But he's out. But I love or class. You know what? I mean. That's kind of like the Disney story line almost right? He's still working Billy Zane. Yeah. I never he's actually gonna he's a server on the new Titanic. He's gonna be working working. Fall of our Zane heads are listening saying. Brain. Sure, he's fine Zane the membranes. Yeah. And then. Jek dies. Right. Isn't it weird that likely not a covered head is so much bigger now than it was back in the day? L? Matthew, mcconaughey, looks almost exactly the same except for the hair plugs. He does almost look exactly the same as he's always looked since I've ever known he existed. It's quite Caprio will attend is full of all those dreams from inception. The rest of the script that didn't make it into the. Swimming and stuff. He's always on like boats with models waterfalls elad shape. Oh, he is. They call them. Like, he's got like the dad Bod, you know. Yeah. Which apparently he's he's with models. So it's working out for him. I'm sure that they're like look at that guy's body. Always who. Minded dad by apparently, it's like a feeling. Yeah. I I like going this. So. So really into dad bots for a while. But then I was like someone with ABS, and then I don't have apps so that I got on this power trip where 'cause I call I try to go full Gaga with all everyone date where like I like to be like less good looking than the guy. So then it's like, I feel really cool Gaga. She lets good guy. Always eat someone more attractive than her. So attractive a lot of people don't think that not by Hollywood standards. So you say you'd have a tough time making it in the music industry because of her nose. That movie was all stars for it for anyone is literally valley, which in the film. She's already gotten a nose job though, like late seventy German NADA, aka league Gaga has gotten a knows actual human. Yeah. And they didn't I don't think they it looked to be the nose job knows that she was using it sound like they put on like a wicked witch. So over the old knows the one she used. You can't. Yeah. Put it in a jar like people do with teeth. I put it into my pillow didn't get anything. And she's still super hot has like a slam in by. But like by industry standards. She hasn't gone her face like morphed because you know, you have to make your is like smaller and you have to get a nose job. There's a lot of things you gotta do. Apparently, you're it. But if you're a man, you just have to convince the entire world, it's cool to be out of shape. What a crazy that is such a fun chain. All agree is not it is a single standard. And I want to thank everybody want to thank the academy for decided to get round is the man shape. Super. Hey, there is historical precedents for it kings used to be as regal to be a little bigger. Yeah. You could afford food rich women used to be chunky to let it be chunky loud. People into thick. Yeah. Yeah. With thick is different. Is like, oh, the they always mean thick, but they mean like in your thighs and your, but they never mean in your waist. It's not one hundred percent true. A lot of people that are into like a I want to squeeze anywhere. Yeah. I mean, not. Zone out your industry. It's fun to hear Korean describe like how things are everywhere. And you described. I'm not gonna thinking all this people who like. These dorito people everywhere was like fish at coffee. Thank you for not talking to her in this. Exactly, how many people cringe like well the industry this is tonight for my experience. But there's like dude who's like do you like chicken? Making them is that possible. Oh, man. So I don't know. So let's say, okay. So you. Never watched Titanic as vendetta towards everyone. High school yet. And what was it like all the girls were like, oh my God. Did you see it? I just have I have a real anything that is super popular. And everyone loves I automatically. Just can't I don't wanna be voting. Now, I I have waited breaking bad for a long time. But then I finally watch it with my ex because he wanted to watch a show together. And he loved that one. And he was like, let's watch this common thread, and then I loved the common create one of the common. Threads of like women. Guests are like this is a show that was thrust upon me by next who had already seen it. Breaking bad is one of the one the movie, it's mostly goodfellas. I had already seen that. But it's so weird to me that men like to watch this. I could never watch the same TV series again. It's a lot. There's a whole there's so many things to watch and a world. I just rarely the only thing I'll watch a lot is like Huck the break-up. I love that movie which ones a Jennifer Aniston. And Vince Vaughn, how many times do you think you've seen the break-up a crazy amount lake seven, okay? Picture show over two hundred. Picture show is exists for rewatch right because it's a party. Let's also part of the Halloween season. Well, I went through a phase in sixth grade 'cause I've OCD like you. I don't know if that was out sorry. Bleep it out. Yeah, we'll ads like no one's noticed really crazy about obsessive about things. So I watched rocky horror picture show every day after school when I was in the sixth grade, which was one hundred and eighty days, and then I've definitely watched at least twenty more times. That's a musical, right. Yeah. It's a musical. Yeah, I'm sure, you know, all the songs, I there was one point when I knew the entire script by heart, and I could recite it with. I'm not sure it ever come up on on this soul. If your listeners sorry for but I have The Lion King, memorize we. 'cause my little brother is he's ten years younger than I am and my sister. And I so she's a little older we're about ten twelve years older than him when he was a baby and then up through like three or whatever fall asleep. It was the only thing he could fall asleep watching The Lion King every night for years. So I have the entire movie The Lion King if it comes on now, even a clip it. I just can start rattling off all the lines. And what happens and it's bizarre. It's bizarre and have moving memorized. That's how that's how I am with pope of Greenwich Village. Swear to God. Really? I've seen that. That's insane. I mean, it's not insane. A lot of people have seen it. It's an old film. I saw current might you consider instead of Titanic writing a script for pope of Greenwich. You know, the movie everyone can relate to everybody. Historical context. Mickey Rourke heads listening right now. No this movie. It's I found an old VHS when I was in high school, and I was like I gotta figure out a way to play this. And it was it was great love the radio since high school VHS was still thing hardware in high school. I didn't have one though, I didn't have an at home 'cause you were poor. Yes. I watched. Oh, you relax. Jared lying about. He actually just pulled the tape out to the sun. Oh, Mickey roar reading the way for right? I just thought it was about the pope. Quicker. Actually, that's how I got a chance to watch it in the school. I went to Catholic school. They let me put it because it had the pope in it for me is that. Wow. You could watch it in the gym. If what an incredible. What an incredible scam. I don't wanna put anyone on the spot for anything in this. Because since we're in New York City, I kind of want to talk about best movies that take place in New York City, you're in state bagels. Or did they Biggles here? I went to a food. I went to one of those coffee trucks this morning. Yeah. And they toast the jelly. They spelled T O S T, E T and bagel. They spelled correctly. And then below that they spelled it be G L E. I'm like how many different people put the lettering up on this truck? Right. But they got to cover all the also you wanna get smart people. You want to get average people. You won't get dumb. People got dumped I walking up. He's like I'm not going to have a bit gel. Toast, bag L. Yeah. Yeah. I was at a deli out in Brooklyn just like walking into some Bodega to sandwich, everyone in New York pretty much every deli especially if they're old or has like nine eleven thing. Oh, yes. This one. I swear said nine eleven never forget. And then instead of having a painting, it just said the buildings it had the words the buildings where I think they'd planned on putting because someone's like we shouldn't have Bill you paint the buildings up there. And they're sure that's the building. And I was like he was making my sandwich right in front of it. So I did want to take a picture because they want to look I'm taking a picture of the guy making my sandwich, or whatever. But it said the buildings that's hilar-. I mean, this is like bed stuy. Now, I don't want. You know, I'm not gonna just go Rovan to take picture. That's. That's get what we mean. Right. We don't want you to forget the building. Yeah. The events if you want I was like what about the people in the bills, right? I remember the two buildings that were there. Right. If you look at it. Now, there's less I was looking at it on the ferry. There seems to be less building. So what's? Is there a conic New York movie, associate the most with New York? I mean, just Woody Allen and Spike Lee movies in general for me. Like do the right thing. Do the right thing was like, very Brooklyn. Most people would Manhattan. Most people pick like like Woody Allen like what Annie hall or Manhattan? Right. It'd be like I don't remember. We're Manhattan took place. Well, because I think there's a lot of people who like to shoot. And like, you know, something that you remember about their films, and Spike Lee and Woody Allen both a lot of times use a New York as characters in in their films. So that's why I remember it. But I mean, also like home alone. I think is a super New York movie. I never saw home alone. But know, the second one loss the loss in Europe. Obviously, not the also somebody's on the Muppets in New York. Or was there anything? I mean, I moved you know, I wasn't familiar. I'd never been to New York when I moved here really moved here without ever having come here. That's not. So everything I knew about it was based on pretty much do the right thing from film school, and I guess like any hall, and you and then you near like, oh, it's nothing like this scores as you also really big. Yeah. I went. Yeah. It was I I it's. It was not, you know, I have English degree in film. Studies degree. From where Missouri the state university of Missouri. Because that's the thing about you went around the different holidays. Just like you want to go to school. All right, go to the school. Yeah. You go around to all the different colleges in the state. And so then you kind of find these more weird like, I never really watched friends. Yeah. I've never watched. This could be don't care. I've never seen Seinfeld that I'm not sure I believe I've only seen a couple of episodes of friends and Seinfeld. I don't like I hate sitcoms. I like hate is there anything realistic in New York. Do the right thing realistic. At least most realistic New York movie. I thought you know, what there was things about the it's not a movie, but the things about the show girls fell we're real if you are that type of girl living in Brooklyn, very accurate, very niche. I think what girls nailed is what a lot of people who were moving here while it was on. We're probably gonna hit if they had money. Yeah. Because it's like a lot of people moving here moving into that area like sex in the city. I think I never really watched it. But I've seen parts of it. I think that was like a almost like a fantastic goal, right? Like a romantic vision? Well, I think there's so many different ethnicities types of people and classes that are living in New York at the same time, and there's so many different spots like sex in the city is does exist or did exist. Like when it was out for that type of woman who was single and making a ton of money. It's just not a world. I don't think most people we know have experienced it does exist like people who went to like fucking like towel on the weekends. And I have a friend. Jessica actually who had a lot of money at that time. Time and definitely was living. Exactly that kind of sex in the city lifestyle. And I think lots of times with these things that I see whether it's girls or so sexist city, I've seen like the peripheral is what's realistic? And so it's like the characters have to live these kind of fantastic lives. Otherwise, it's why would you watch someone wait for the train for six hours or someone just like get mad about something parts of New York? Roy exactly. And then the stuff around them is where you can have these like sort of day to day realistic. Whether it's like someone trying to get around Bushwick in what that is or someone like try. Yeah. Navigating and how relationships work and things like it's like friends made sense if you wrote it on paper, right? The girls a chef lives in grandmother's apartment her friend breaks up with her husband moves in the guy across the hall is like an actor, and he has to live with his rich corporate guy in order to survive. All that makes sense. And then all of them have dope lives, though. Because it's a sitcom also Cloverfield. Just a monster. Monster TJ Miller is filming a lot. And I remember that we will have to bleep. Yeah. I remember there's a show mini series on HBO called the night of and guy. Queens. And it was the only thing I've ever seen actually kinda get what queens is like. Oh, we're there's people with cars. You've never seen king of queens, dude. I know I I haven't seen anything in the Ray Romano cinematic universe. RC? You is he is. He is. Zia was that like a spin off? Yeah. It he actually lives around the block. Yeah. Show. There's a lot of things that are spinoffs that I didn't know like family matters is a spin off from what I forgot the Simpsons was on something else. It was like, Tracy. Show. Yes, right. I remember remember so roast jokes. Someone said to Kevin James on one of these comedy central roasts with something like Kevin king acquaintance, you live right around the corner. From Ray Romano who knew a neighborhood could get so less funny. So fast. That's how I found out. They were in the same thing was like watching like a Gerard, Giraldo roast compilation clue. All right. Well, we got a couple of games I wanna play here. And is this mine you can have it on open bottle of water. Okay. Thank you for the fans listening. We'll be like, oh, my kind of wonder what it is. Yeah. 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I saw the fear tied bother nature has awry, they could night cherry. This is your test. I've been dreaming about this day for. You'll wanted men. There is no salvation today. The National Park Service always pays deaths. Great guys. What's up? I ran to the man. You must be you must be Kevin. What the fuck is is out of the Whitman. She has week Kevin scripted season to all new episodes star October twenty second on star. Burns audio subscribed today what the hell? Are you talking to you high off you'll ask? So we got this game called rapid fire trivia about a movie you've never seen. We're seeing the movie would definitely help. And so Alexis I'm going to ask you to leave the studio and shut both of the doors and go ahead. Just take the elevator down and go ahead and get trained air scary. Just go to the window. And then I'll wait for you to come back in. So we've actually had one of. Soundproofing baby this pharmacy. Alexa, C two doors at once. It's time for every. Okay. So what we do is. I'm gonna ask you twenty questions about television show. You've never seen. What's his game of thrones? Okay. And we have no secret about that. Do there's also a grudge reason. I'd never really it's incredible. I show based on my stocking on social media that my ex boyfriend watched with his now, wife and it killed me. So I just I was like triggered by people talking about it or is so funny. I wanna make sure Alexis Kate. Hear us Alexis. You can't hear us. Okay. You've standing and. That's right. It's like that scene in ocean's eleven where he can't get the bartender's attention, and he's like I slept with your wife, and he's like oh you want ice. And then he gives them the. Yeah. So we got twenty questions about game of thrones. Is so funny that you saw an ex that was into it and have avoided eighty hours of precedes television. I can't go to a restaurant called tarm. Okay. What do what do you do mostly avoid? I mostly avoid on a day to day basis. About that. We've actually played wartime rapid rapid-fire trivia about game of thrones with Adam low it and very funny comedian. Okay. So we'll see if you can also beat Adam lowest seem question they are. But I'm not worried about it. Because it it's not about the questions the answers. Okay. And so these are just have to pull up the wick Wikipedia page. And then Alexis will come back in who has seen game of thrones passively. He said he said he wasn't paying attention that much. So we'll be which is great because it is basically a show you have to read. Oh, you do. It is a lot happening. L, but there's not actually like sub to it's not subtitles. But it's such a dense. I was like Jesus it's in another language. I really miss a lot about my dad watch narcos watching guy right with the only show he's ever seen all the way through any actually didn't watch last season. So not even all the way through. And he was thought it was so funny. He was like read this new show, which is a pretty funny dad joke. He's excited about it. I don't mind reading PAN's labyrinth was one of my favorite is for one of my favorite films. It's great. Yeah. So many people left when they because I saw it in the theater, and when it started so many people left out and my boyfriend at the time, I thought was going to not who's going to also be like annoyed just goes, oh what you can't read. And I was like oh my God. I love this guy. You can't read look at pains. Lebron not gonna read LeBron. Alexis is watching through a window right now so intensely. It's insane. It's like a little glass window to the room to the point where I'm going to take a picture because it's so funny. All right. This is rapid far trivia if you don't know you can answer whatever you want to answer. And but it's just want to answer every question. Rabbit far trivia, but move your TV show. You've never seen. Okay. They're doing gags with a window. Now, we're seeing the TV show definitely would help about game of thrones with grin Fisher. Are you ready? All right question. One who wrote the books the show is based on. A daycare rally close baby they've met each other token, no question to how many Emmys within three has the show one within three way within three Emmys like you have a range of three. Yeah. To it's one thirty eight Emmys, but I thought it was oh. Between one. Imagine if I gave you a miss of three for the answer to all, right? All right. You know, what more? What do you think you would have guessed I to say twenty? Okay. Name to actors in the show. Peter Dink, ledge and. Packer, big boobs. We'll give you one and a half point. Yeah. Of course, you four named to characters in the show. I names work. Four. Stacey. Five what is the name of the continent where most of the show takes place? God is like a fake place fake place. This Topi a question six what is Peter Bailey? Shes nickname. Little dude, you is I'm gonna its little finger. It is not even Peter Gingrich. That's the craziest thing. Going to give you that one question. Eight by what name do the seven kingdoms refer to the free folk who live north beyond the wall plea biens. No question nine denarius. Tar Gary and has three children. These children are actually what fairies dragons question. Ten finish. This quote, the north blinks. Walls. No question eleven how many kingdoms are in west rose seven. Yes. Wow. Nice question. We've had some note was euros. So you're you're not gonna be at the bottom. This is a hard one because this even like basis on reality made up twelve the reins of cast Amir is sometimes referred to as the red blank wave. The election question thirteen what animal is the stark family crest ostrich questioned fourteen finished his quote winter is blank cold. What is but no question. Fifteen how does Ned stark die? Spoiler. Decapitation? Yes question eighteen yes. How does Joffrey breath? Ian, die. Getting something sharp through his middle. No. Well, it's got poison so half point because it was something sharp metal just not the way you thought question seventeen. How does over Martell die? Falls off a cliff or something nobody gets killed by someone named the mountain. So you know, what I'm gonna give you another half point. Of course in eighteen what does the name of Arias stark sword? Warrior. No question nineteen within three give or take. Okay. I understand this out. How many episodes have aired? See? Oh, I have to just go back to my heartbreak. Doing relationship math one hundred seven sixty seven questions final question. Jamie, Lancaster has a Golden Globe. Four. You're we're getting you got about four here you got to get to and then some half credits. The data up to force. Not seeing it. All right Alexis coming back in. Let's see if he can beat for here having seen the show passively. I can't believe let me a little fingers pretty close for it really have nothing there. Were there still two doors? Crazy. All right. She got four out of twenty having never seen the show. All right. Let me see flake truly Nick never even like Titanic slugging four. A slugging four she got what the things she got were not based on knowing the information. If that makes him so I'm going to get the same questions. Same questions. It's twenty questions. You said you passively watched game of thrones. Yeah. So this is rapid fire trivia about TV where my wife forces me to watch it. Right. Like you were talking about you ex boyfriends you triggering me. So that's she was doing relationship. Wifi rhymes with life. This guy has a different life. This rabbit. Rabbit far trivia about game of thrones. Where you've passively seem game Toronto. We'll see if you can beat four. Okay. Here we go question. One. Who wrote the books the show is based on? It's the fact I from Bayonne. Yep. But was his name dammit giving half credit for fat guy. He's from jersey. How many Emmys with a range of three like you can miss by three. Yes. The show one in total. Twenty thirty eight question three named to actors in the show. Oh. You got namely amazing. Right. Her name's like maisy. Right. Yes. And then you got that is correct, right. Yeah. I know there's a weird name. I and then you got. Does the dude with the missing the hand? I can't remember his name. What's the snow, dude? Man. I know his name John snow. Question four. Named to characters in the show. Oh, Jon, snow and. And a whole door. Yep. Question five, what is the name of the continent or most of the show takes place? Jesus come on. It's like it's like the it's like the country's right? Like the four the four countries or some shit question though, it is west roast Lester road with those countries. That was my next one question six, Peter Bailey, shes nickname. Oh, low finger. It is little. Bang next question by what name to the seven kingdoms referred to the free folk who live in the north beyond the walls. The Wilding Wild Wings. I'm gonna give you that. It's Wild Wings question. Nine denarius target area has three children. These children quotes are actually what? The who has two children in areas target area. Are they oh? The dragon dragons Bank question nine finish this quote the north blink. Will rise again. To real now the north through members. Yeah. I know next question. How many kingdoms are in west rose seven. Yep. Next question the reins of cast mirror with that. We've been watching this show. That's because he said at three times in the previous questions. Don't give any context clues reins of cast. Amir is also sometimes referred to as the red. What? Which the red wedding the red wedding next question. What animal is the stark family crest. All. The dire wolf it is a dire. Wolf, oh, I don't know. We'll finish. This quote winter is blank coming. Yep. He's one of that sound bite next question. Stark die. Here's where she rattled a few off. Oh, I. They behead them. Yup. It's fun that you were acting it out before remembering the name you like cutting ahead off because I want to say decapitate. Yeah. Yes wrong. Next question. How does Joffrey breath, Ian, die? So that one was how does Joffrey Baratheon die. Oh, poisonings poisons. Beat you already. I mean, tell die who Oberlin Martell Oprah. Did he is he one of those focused got kicked the whole? No, he was the mountain smashed his face and his skull with his bare hands after a trial by combat. Oh, yes. Right. You're close with hall because he stuck his thumbs. In the dude is. That you were bragging about beating me having seen the show. Yeah. But I don't pay attention. So like, this is what you say you pay less attention than having never had it next. Aria stark sword. Needle. It is needle next question within three range of three. How many episodes of game of thrones of aired? I think they're eight seasons. Right. Eight times. I'm probably off on this. I'll say night, let's say one hundred it's sixty seven, but I'm glad you literally saw you walk yourself out of being in the rain. Final question. Jamie, Lancaster has a golden what hand golden hand. That's pretty good. You did pretty good. Hang looking at the half. I'm you know, I'm gonna take your halfway for just call George or Martin fat since you did so good in the rest of it. We got one two three four five six. I was gonna say seven nine ten eleven how many twenty over fifty percent. I mean that puts you in the upper echelon of even people who've seen stuff they go. Wait, who what the other person who took it the atom loaded never seen it? And I think he got one. Oh, he had never seen. Okay. Knowing. Got it. So how'd you get beheading? I just thought of old tiny ways to die a smart. Thank you. Yeah. All right. We got our last game here. We're coming back around to guess, what movie caused as scribe and haven't had and we see children ruined. I'm gonna play it all the way through hold your guests. If you have one already. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So she arguing with her. Mom, her mom doesn't think she will get into any of those. Oh my God. I hope she's ok. Is she really, and and of course. There's a lot of fast talking teenagers. She and her mom, I think our shopping at a thrift store. They're looking for dress which shots at church. She's screaming in street arguing with girls school more quick shots works like of high school things over and over. High school. Thanks. Is is that prompted or that's just how he so you like it's like takes notes, right? And then rereads them. Okay. So it's not the first fewing of the trailer. I was gonna say man that that is hilarious. Yes. What do we think? First thing comes to mind is what's the movie where they drop all the red blood on her? I have to say. I have to say Kerry. Yeah. It's not carry. My first guest was the the that recent credit gerwig fill much. I can't remember the title of only you could fuck because what it was that called. It's the one where she has the mom issues. Oh, lady bird. It is lady bird. How did I guess that? Well, I mean, I mean, how did you? Wondering why you beat the game when you had all the? But you're gonna know who Greta gerwig in the back of your mind, you obviously subconsciously thank you very much for coming in doing it. And Karen, thank you for never seeing Titanic and writing Titanic, you're so welcome. And and if you want to let everyone know where to find you absolutely you can find me on all social media at philanthropy gal that was available. And you can listen to you my adult podcast for a Justin Bieber fans. Also about celebrity with Rosebud Baker called two less lonely girls. Then there's the guys we fucked podcast, which is about being a ho thank you going anywhere soon. I'm going places. But I know I'll be okay. When is this coming out he'll be out on Thursday? Okay. So I'll be in a zanies. The Chicago shows are sold out. But I'll be at zanies Rosemont, which is like twenty minutes outside give it up Chicago fans who even went out and saw people. He's going to be super. I thought that far there's parking Rosemont, Illinois. Maybe there you go and Alexis. What's up? Yeah. You could follow him. I listen to my soccer podcast. If you guys like, laughing and soccer. It's called the cool. Agains CO L I N S. It's dope. We're always traveling around. We're going to be in Chicago in January, and I'm also I I'm kinda sticking around for a little bit. But I I'm doing something upstate. So. I don't know follow my Instagram at not Alexis. Oh, yeah. If you're in upstate New York, so at flan through guy. All right. Thank you guys very much. If you like the show, we have a bunch of bonus content. We're going to have videos from a live show. 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Lyme Regis, Star Of Ammonite

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Lyme Regis, Star Of Ammonite

"I am you off. It's just crazy Stone. I'm Peter and I'm Felice Welcome to our travel podcast. We're Specialists travel writers, and we've spent half a lifetime exploring every wage earner of the world. So we want to share with you some of our extraordinary experiences and the amazing people. We've met along the way. Okay could learn how to speed not with the Dorset accent but with a line accent I suppose that's the kind of here for detail eye for detail. That wins Oscars. We take five hundred thousand people for Sunday. One of the things I love about my job is most complicated tool I use is a bit of metal on the end of the stick. This week. We're in acquaintance Historic Resort of Lyme Regis on the south. West coast of Britain hundred fifty miles at 240 kilometers from London. Lime is the locals call. It is the fossils found in capital of Europe. Normally. I think it's fair to say that for most of us paleontology. The study of fossils doesn't necessarily set the pulses racing but the release is off of a major romantic movie directed by Francis Lee starring Kate Winslet and Saoirse Ronan is about distressed lime into the Limelight. Once again, yes, the town's no stranger to Celebrity Status back in the nineteen eighties metal strips oscar-nominated portrayal of John fowles book The Prince of Tennis woman did wonders for tourism here and now I'm a night off the story of impoverished fossil hunter Mary Anning who in the early eighteen-hundreds became a celebrity because of her remarkable discoveries movie centers on her supposed love affair with the geologists off. That much some wife of a fox hunting army officer Charlotte was someone from the extreme opposite end of the social Spectrum. It appears that anyone visiting lime can with a bit of luck. Just pick up a giant hundred sixty million year old shrimp from a puddle on the beach and take it home with them finding the Petrified parts of an actual dinosaur takes a lot more skill, but this does actually happen. Not for nothing. Is this stretch of Seaside wage as the Jurassic Coast a designated UNESCO world heritage site to find out what makes fossil sexy. We're going in search of David Tucker director of Lyme Regis Museum and his foster home residents Patty. How now Paddy acted is Kate Winslet's guide and Technical mentors rather filming last year, but first, let's take a closer look at our surroundings. So here's a cob your boss protects the fishing boats and Yachts at anchor in the harbor. It's a small place population is less than four thousand people. Let's take a walk around here. It's really beautiful scenery is gorgeous with the cliffs on one side. And then the Palm Beach really long stretch of Beach and some nice old houses. There's the odd unfortunately ruined by modern plastic buckets and Spades and things. Otherwise, you could get in the 19th century still, you know, you feel not a lot has changed really especially around the clock. There are people right now. I see walking along the edge of it and the weather is quite stormy today. It's pretty dangerous jobs that were Meryl stood for summer hours. It looks like in the in the movie I suspect it was a double doing it but flips. Why don't you try understand steps look a bit wet. Careful don't we can see you Thursday at the tone? Well, I went up the steps and didn't go on to the cob itself because it looks so slippery and slimy and the waves were actually coming right across it. So I don't know what's going on it and apparently someone died not that long ago. There was swept Into the Water by a wave. And the way then came back and crushed them against against the cob and that was that so you didn't do bit careful too many people have seen the movie and want to read lip revisit the scene, but I think it's going to be quite wary of so let's walk down the beach towards the museum lot. Lots of Seagulls And there's a little old theater package next to the museum and it's really pretty Place. Lots of atmosphere is much smaller and much deeper than I imagined. The main street gang off is really quite a bit of a climb to my shop and lots of really nice seafood restaurants, too. Yeah Seafoods a big thing for me and you let's go and cook some dinner, but first of all, we couldn't find David and Patty. Today when it's extraordinary how much Lyme Regis has changed in recent decades. Well, the the museum and line has changed hugely in about the last 15 to 30 years. I mean obviously where we are in the museum, it's pretty much doubled in size since 2017 which has been an interesting challenge, but the town itself has significantly changed since the 1990s with the extension in the sea defenses. Yes a little bit earlier than that. There was John Charles booked a French Lieutenant woman, which was said here and then the movie with the unforgettable scene of Meryl Streep standing alone know the mysterious on the Storm lashed Cobb the old Harbour wall John's book was written in the late sixties and the film was made in 81 to 82. Of course as you may or may not know Joseph worked here. He was unregulated with the museum for many years and I I have his chair in my office. It's it's a bit better after thirty-odd years, but I just think if I've got a great authors chair. I'm going to keep the dog. So line was sort of as it were rediscovered in many ways culturally by the book. But now that Mary Anning is on the school curriculum. And of course, there's films coming out about that. We've sort of rediscovered limes primary role as the home of paleontology. Yes. It was the place that time forgot but now time is absolutely rediscovered. I think well, I'm often asked what is it about a place like home and why is it done? So well in recent years and and actually think that the world changed with the making of the film Jurassic Park special effects now enables us all to see what we think dinosaurs would have looked like when I was a kid in the sixties and early seventies one looked at a black and white drawing in a book and you know, actually think you know, the whole series of films the BBC TV series like Walking with Dinosaurs a good 15-20 years back now really dead just change the rules and and I'm sure that's fed into why dinosaurs and paleontology is so popular again. So when did Mary Ann and go on to the school curriculum was that recent? I think it was dead. Probably about two thousand and fifteen sixteen times. So you have groups of schoolchildren that come here to the museum. Oh, yes. Well and the normal conditions we do although we're not a big Museum physically. We do life point out that we've got the biggest Museum Gallery in England, which is Mary Adams Beach and we're I think I'm told that we're the most visited museum by schools in Dorset and what we do with a lot of those groups check them out onto the beach and they get a chance to Fossil hunt and learn about the conditions under which Mary Anning worked and lived. In fact, the museum is built on the site of her house. Of course the film which I'm told is a red hot romantic scenes between the two women may not be exactly what every primary school teacher was to explain to his or her class. Well, I think the film is one that's little children won't be able to see here. We say am absolutely relaxed about the film where you were scientific advisors on the film one of our team whose align born woman was the guide for Kate Winslet's accent and they spent a great deal of time together laughing. It's okay could learn how to speak not with the Dorset accent. But with a lime accent I suppose that's the kind of here for detail eye for detail. That wins Oscars. So we also made sure that well Patty how bout of our really good geologists made sure that Kate Winslet knew how to crack open a rock and find a fossil and look like she did every day. That's not easy. No, no, no, but you know, she took it in Australia. So can people find fossils on the beach nowadays. Oh, yes. Yeah. One of the reasons we are a world heritage site is because a constant erosion of the Rocks means that as a rock song him or do you simply can find the same fossils now that people would have found two hundred years ago. It's as a result of of coastal erosion. So as the rocks will the same age you can find fossils of the same age director Francis Lee. He was a really nice man came here and did a fossil walk. It must have been about 2 and 1/2 years ago and my geologist Patty and I had a long conversation with him and he asked us to keep quite about the project so long And that and then a few months later on. I met one of the one of the producers and gave them bit of help with locations, you know, and if you work with the film industry or within the media companies that I'm sure you'll know they asked you to sign the little piece of paper that says you'll keep quiet. We signed the about three years after we moved project was on. So what can we see in the museum relating to Mary Anning apart from fossils? And I thought well maybe running was a poor woman and very little of that which she owns survives. We have two or three fossils in the museum. Ron loan and they are fossils that we know that Mary discovered would also have fossils that we discovered by a lady called Elizabeth Philpot. It was who would gain is portrayed in the film a very interesting and very important fossil hunter in her own right whose family pay for this building and whose kids are in Oxford Museum of Natural History, but when it comes to things that Mary actually owned the only things that we know of other than her fossils are letters juice. And what's called a commonplace book that belongs to our neighbors at Dorset County Museum to tell us the benefit of people who don't know about Mary Anning. Who was she and when was she born and raised to become world famous? Well, she became famous of course after a death, but she was born in 1799 basically where we're standing and she and her elder brother found her elder brother was a wage this as well. They they famously found an ichthyosaurus still on the beach in North get the date wrong. I think it's 1811 when she was only about eleven or twelve. It's a bit like a crocodile. Yep. Well people thought they were like crocodiles. Actually, they're much more like fish. If you Google ichthyosaur if you could spell it not easy, you know, you'll find out what they look like. They are giant marine reptiles from the Exotic. So they're big and fierce like dinosaurs, but they're not Landing so they're not actually dinosaurs and and the Rocks around here are full of the fossils of these creatures and that's what may be discovered. And what was the name? Ki was of course people would have been discovering these things all the time. But in previous times there wouldn't have been the perception in what was developing the world of science the what these things were people were in the past that they were dragons or one idea about the curly ammonite was it as a snake that bit in its own tail, you know, so Mary was Finding fossils at the time when I suppose you could put it and say that the age of the Earth as in biblical terms of being challenged by scientists and indeed by many clergymen because many of the early scientists were in fact clergymen who use their spare time to record the wonders of gave you the verse and got world and then discovered things that didn't fit into the Bible. So it's it's it's very interesting process and perhaps nowhere near as antagonistic as one might think from what would reads today. So that was a local Girl Interrupted bornia, right as you say where we're standing and she grew up in a an impoverished family or well, yes, her her father was a carpenter a day were only two out. Think they're nine children survived. Marrying. Marrying a Brother Joseph their father died. I think would've been about 1809 after a bad fall on black then back then which Clips to the east of the town where he was looking for fossils. But really what little we have of the history of of Richard running her father. It may have been that there was some other chronic disease is suffering from as well. So basically the animals were left pretty poor dead lost their main trade which was Richard carpentry, but the family always found curios as people called fossils. Then took them to the tourist of the came here knowing quite a lot of tourists then it was quite a Seaside. Well, yeah, it's interesting in that in that this is kind of place it gets mentioned in in Jane Austen books people coming in a recovery after the season in bath, but I think what also will needs to remember is that there was a war going on so many of the gentlemen and Ladies as well. I suppose the gentleman who would have done the European tour couldn't do it off. Now like now yes, don't get me started. Yeah, so we can assume a lot of people that perhaps learning people that perhaps would have done you show up as part of their growing up and then being introduced a culture would it perhaps come to learn as well David? Thank you very much. Now before we meet up with Paddy, let's pop next door to the Marine theater. It played supporting role in ammonite and Gabi rabbit from the theater is going to tell us all about it. The film used the Marine theater as the canteen. Also the Wardrobe and make-up department. So for a good couple of weeks, we were full of all of the costumes and hats and all the extras local people would come down, They're ordinary clothing and then reappeared rest ready for the Merion Inn film. So it was wonderful and whilst they were all here they to use theater Square to relax and so as I glanced out of my office window, I see all the extras gathered having their sandwiches and whatnot in full costume. It was wonderful. It was very exciting to be part of the film. The town was full of excitement when all of the big lorries and all the film crazy here. So it was really special for us to be involved. Are you going to have a screening of the film here in the theater? We very much hope to have a screening of the film. Like I say with so many local people playing a part in being extras and so much of their time with spell spent being involved with the film. It would be lovely to have a screening. It'd be nice to have more than one and we'd like to have a week ideally the theater first emerged in 1836 as a saltwater bath house. It was right above the ocean so they could pump the water up from the ocean straight into these enormous baths where people would come and loll around in the water as a cure for their ailments. So that's how the building first appeared then it changed into a sort of drill Hall a drill Hall Theatre. Its had lots of different uses a cinema, but we've had the stage and we had Being having entertainment on stage four hundred and twenty-five years. We celebrated our hundred twenty fifth anniversary this year just gone with a very special performance with sir Ian McKellen. It's a great year many. Thanks Gabby and we wish that goes well for the next hundred and twenty-five years. Last year's Patty how no doubt back from yet another day searching the beach. As I said earlier Patty was the Apostle hunting coach for Kate Winslet who plays month ending in the film Patty. What did this exact involve? Just making sure that the you have the right fossils in the right place that everything looks right the right sort of tools all of those things. So we've never been possible. Can you tell us a bit about it? How you do it sure. It's fairly simple really? So most of the time it's walking around looking at the ground. So you're just looking but you're looking for things which are not everything else you're looking for those things which are above everything else. So you're looking for symmetry regular shapes repeating patterns things like that and most things we find are actually just just just laying about on the ground. We also learned to recognize particular rocks, which we break open wage. Contains some of the better fossils. What's been your biggest fan? Personally? Oh gosh, that's a really difficult question. The literal biggest fossil is an XTS or skeleton which is in the geology gallery and thoughts. So Nick named Kevin and he's 5.6 meters in length. I have found a couple of new species of plant which haven't been described a new genesis and species of crab. Stating. I was hoping went running off the cliffs. You don't touch the clips of toys on the ground not at all yet yet firstly you would have to get permission to actually execrate into the cliff. And of course, it's extremely dangerous. We get a lot of Rock Falls, especially after rain and most the best things we find are actually down. The beach itself wind and rain and storms rain is very useful. It softens up the mudflows. The many of The Fosters washed out from so it's easier for the tide to break them are down after rain and bring things out the colors are things stand out when they're wet the page to see and of course the rankings everyone else at home big waves come in they tear into the mudflows tear into the clear for the actually bring the fossils out onto the beach. So anyone could just go for a walk along the beach and have a look. Yes. Absolutely suck. The only tool I use is a hammer most of the time and that's really for one particular ox cord nodules, which often contain fossils we use that hammer them to break those down if you're going to be hammering. Of course, I protection is also a song first forward to Kate Winslet you had a teacher from scratch how to hunt for fossils and look as if she'd been doing it all alive that difficult. Not really no no. No, she's very game and it really put off an awful lot of effort into it. So yeah, you have to use the appropriate Hammer from the nineteenth Century. They haven't really changed very much to be honest. One of the things I love about my job is most complicated tool. I use a bit of metal on the end of the stick. So did you watch them actually film it in costume? Yes. I was on set for some of the time years you waited costume yourself some extra him feel no. No. No as I say, I've got a face for radio releases. So how did you become a you're a trained geologist? So you yes. Yeah. I have a degree in geology have been John just here at the museum for eighteen years. I think now I'll be posting here since I was six years old as that's forty nine years. So you're literally born. I'm from Taunton. So 28 miles away. My mother bought me here on a day trip when I was six and I was hooked straightaway. I would get parents to bring me here as often as possible after that in my teens. I would cycle the 28 miles from Taunton with my friend Bob as we cycled down go forcing for ten or twelve hours and then cycle home with a big bang for the Rocks, hopefully, so what you need the Rocks, I mean you obviously would have rather large collection at home. You sell them or I have sold some yes, scientific important things comes the museum anything which is very nice, but not necessarily scientifically important for both of my collection at home. And I do sell some everyday things that we would see, you know, most most of the time to Marianna. It's been a central figure of your life. Yes. Absolutely an amazing woman of to do what she did at that time women didn't do that sort of thing. So tense bit more about what you know about Mary she came from a very humble background very very poor Richard having her father used to collect Foster's I think showed Mary how to do some of them. What's going on to make bigger and better discoveries? Yeah, it was a very much a male Preserve at that time. Also, of course today. We have the benefit of some more than clothing. We have a waterproof clothes Wellington's now is probably dressed in Wollongong clothes things like that. If it's raining it's going to get very heavy and wet. She's depicted with a basket over her arm. It wouldn't take long if that was full of rocks. So if we were armed feet to be in some considerable pain and we have you know, Rexall all the modding kit with the long dress. You wouldn't have been able to move very well. It must have made a very very difficult indeed assuming of course those depictions are are correct. Did you get many women fossil Hunters order to make sure it's still tends to be mostly men. We are seeing more and more women coming into it more more female students coming into it, which is is great. And there's no reason of course wine that shouldn't be presumably it could be a dangerous occupation time cuz those clips. Oh really unstable on there. It's not without risk, of course, but yes, we generally keep well away from the cliffs, but they're also a lot of slippery Rock's there are areas are very sticky mud and people do get stuck on occasion, Georgia. If you're hammering a lot sooner or later, you're going to catch one of your fingers, you know, it's an occupational hazard. So petty what do you think about this new romantic take on marriage relationship with their fellow geologists? I don't really have an opinion about that. Just another take on the life of a fantastic woman. She was a very recognized her own lifetime where she wasn't allowed to to join a lot of the more prestigious associations and societies and that's just the way it was at the time sadly you made a living from selling discoveries. Yes. Absolutely. Yes, because with the Advent of the coaching trade, you know got more sort of tourists or you're more people coming to the area is very much in the right place at the right time. I think we're going to see a huge increase in the number of people who see it as a hobby. Now we have done in in recent years. So every time there's a a new Jurassic Park film, you know, we see a spike in in in numbers of people used to be here in the winter. I could go along the beach and not seeing anybody all day that hardly ever happens. Now you run fossil hunting tours of the beach. Yeah. I'll run the fossil box for the museum wage. I'm out there probably about two hundred twenty days a year. We always find something. I don't think we've ever had Emily didn't find a fossil. We take over a hundred thousand people fossil-hunting can people do the same one other beaches. Was it just this month? I mean we live near Boomer for example, could you go to Bournemouth Beach and look for fossils. You probably wouldn't want to be on the Main Beach there for their beaches around where you would find fossils younger fossils. I mean to be find here so off of the SN. Around 50 million years old, there's an awful lot of places on the coast of Britain where you can find fossils. It's just line wrenches really has the has the reputation. So so people tend to flock to this area in other countries wage. Would you have a little closer to where in other countries the rules often stricter than they are here? So we're very lucky the rules are extremely lenient. But of course actually what you're doing is saving the fossils because we don't collect them because it's a coach that exposure to see will destroy them all that's interesting. So in the end they just disappeared over there. Yeah. Look at it eroded way the same as The Rock surrounding them often, you know things we find our bits of things because they were already being there in the process wage. Destroyed so when you get a clip full then the next storm Tech sent out to see yes the rocks and Mud may fall the next couple of times will start to spread that over the beach and eventually it'll be dispersed. Yeah and things and it would just be going away to nothing. So when you chip away at a pebble, do you have to be very careful not to break the puzzle inside sometimes the forces are softer than than the surrounding Rock and and that can make a difficult choice you need to to learn to bring them in the right way and I bumped into a few years ago trying to a lovely ammonite fossil in a stone and you learn to recognize the right sort of stone but hasn't learned how to break it down smash the thing to Pieces. So did Kate winset find anything of Interest while you're filming? Yes. Yeah. We found quite a few things a little metal is made of iron pyrite and also took Kate found a fragment of the the skull of an ichthyosaur actually got to get take it home with her or yes. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah make it into a jewelry or something whenever probably not it's not a pretty thing off. It's just a part of the back of a skull there was a genuine phone she found herself and he many thanks indeed and good hunting so fluids do you fancy but since afternoon, yeah, as long as it doesn't break and we're only dressed sounds like fun. It takes quite a long time to learn. I should think I have no idea where to start but your party will be very helpful. I think we need pennies help you I don't think we can do them. All right. Yeah. It's amazing to think that they could almost everything was stepping on might have a fossil in it, but it might do I think actually not going to rain so maybe we should come back and do this on other day Okay, well off of nice things to do here when a jazz room. There's some very nice shots. I'm more important is some very nice restaurants and I think we're kind of lunch. That's all for now. If you've enjoyed the show, please do visit our website action-packed travel.com or subscribe on Spotify Apple Amazon offer any of the many podcasts platforms. 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308: The Titanic Deep Dive

The Popcast With Knox and Jamie

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308: The Titanic Deep Dive

"I'm the other host Jamie wait. I've never changed that tax on here. I'm thinking to Jamie Golden and it's always and I'm the other time the other one I always say and I'm the darker timeline hello and welcome Nipson were three eight of the podcast. I'm on your host Hawks McCoy. I'm your host Golden. The podcast is show dedicated to the life. Oh we're committed educating you on the things entertain but do not matter to find out more about these ice Burgan. That's not work that is a word her seats check us out at Knox and Jamie Dot Com. You can also find US fund instagram and facebook at the podcast and we are on twitter at podcast pod guys thanks for joining us this week as we will be deep diving the iconic Romantic Leonardo DiCaprio movie titanic but before we do that you guys next week we are going to be sharing <unk> are mentally collection of our favorite things on the Internet in our Huntley Green Light Digest and not just the favorites of like knocks me. It also includes Garin. 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Jamie so real excited for this week so this is like we said before from time to time we do these deep dive movie episodes <hes> because so much of what we do is either solving people's problems proving conspiracy theories are true or false but we also like to get really narrow unspecific from time to time with certain subjects and in this case movies right right so this is our cinema side piece feature which actually we do every month for our patriots supporters both at the friend level and the bath friend level and look we love movies and so we try to find some classics we actually let our community vote and they pick from a selection of four movies and this one is a big deal because it's titanic and it's a big deal to me because it is the movie I watched the most in the theater at a record seven times. I don't think you're alone either. I don't know exactly how many times actually saw in the theater but I feel like it was double digits for sure and I think even more specifically like it's such a you know. We've got one sometime in Hollywood with Leo like Leo is such a big part of the poachers Zeitgeist. Titanic is such a big huge part of like sliding doors moment of what happened because of it you know what happened to lead up of what could have happened certain things to change so this is a really the phone conversation we get to have to not pick it apart but really I don't know properly honor and conceptualize what a seminal movement is for not just one generation like multiple generations of people to to watch this moving so what we're going to. We're going to hear us. We're GONNA talk. We're going to have that conversation you listen to it will drop in for some ads and then we'll catch you after the conversation to do our lights in our Amazon purchase segment so without further ado here's the titanic her hello and welcome to this very special episode of cinema side join me is always someone who just the other night. She slid under a bridge and now she's here on the grant ship in the Internet have a sham pay with you people. They are you guys before we begin. Cinema side piece is an episode series where we talked movies and we do so with an acute tender love and care because it is for you. Guys are friends of the show this episode we will be recapping nineteen ninety-seven I and I would say all times iconic film titanic and so if you WANNA fall along honestly most of you guys listen you've probably at shit in your heart and you've memorized every part of it but if you WANNA fresh in that up I watched on Amazon. I think for three yeah I watch it on Amazon for two nine live that H._d.. Live I can lift that life you watch it you save the dollar yen sat there for thirteen hours which is the length of this movie and watch it and standard understand why y'all pay an extra dollar there for H._d.. One hundred days for Jamie Right now why I'm so offended you right now well and for those listening you can also get it on teens. You can get it on Google. Play Fandango or you can plot your V._H._S. and found a V._C._R.. Watch it from me because I know y'all y'all still got your titanic V._H._S.. I know you do so this is so this is a movie we chose for strategic purposes because every in the world seen this at least fifteen times but it resonates. It's a big deal L. movie <hes> in its devoid of seasonality or anything like that so we thought it'd be good choice <hes> for me. I'll gophers because you probably have a richer backstory with this movie. I want you were younger when it came out so you were just a younger person I so I was fifteen fifteen eighteen. <hes> I saw one time in the theater I went with a girl. I had a crush on bet good call and I fell asleep because this movie was very boring to fifty year old. Did you miss the Bubis note made it. I think there was some kind of like like <hes> Cathartic moment of emotion and feeling and like sensory overload that I think I saw that and then I went to sleep guy. You're fell and you're like all right time to go well for me. I was a little older and so I saw it seven Evan Tom's in the theater I saw it three days in a row gosh because I went to see it with girlfriends. On a Friday. I went back on Saturday skip church on Sunday on Sunday like the same people every time or were you like making new friends times. Yes I was the only one that went the third day because I was like 'cause they love Jesus more and I was like <hes> but Leonardo DiCaprio he is so adorable and so Leo Leo is Jack to Jesus so let's just talk that's exactly right and he sacrificed for rose and is activist sacrifice for Leo so I let me say this I though as much and I love Cellini on Lake I still love Cellini on Erin concert four times. I love her still. However I think I would say my love transition from the movie to mostly the Song Okay and then I never even owned The D._v._d.? Or word the like I never owned it like I would say. It took a long time before I watched it again and they probably ten years before I thought again I was so filled up my my my cup runneth over so I didn't need to see it again for like ten years. See so Ashley Thought About six times when we watched the last night she recited literally every line of dialogue in the movie from memory. She knows it so hard the thing I didn't remember this because I think this was the first time I'd be washed since I was fifteen yeah and the back you know the Third Act of the movie since I fell asleep in it was quite a revelation. Jimmy says is very entertained by it <hes> I it did feel like you Kinda had as a viewer I duNNo. It felt like celine. Dion blue balls a little bit like I felt like I still I was waiting for that big sweep in Bali yeah and like you'd would hear the flutes or like the school record whatever thing that they're planning on but I'd never I never noticed like the gave you the Celine Dion like full-throated performance like it it was it was a lot Mortiz than I thought actually was going to be yeah because you get the hints of it all along until the I did read a quote by James Cameron that you know he never wanted a pop song with this route with the soundtrack and Sony who bought bought the rights to the album they were really mad. They paid eight hundred thousand dollars for just score like they were really mad and then at the last minute James Warner secretly wrote my heart will go on and then just kept a cassette tape in his pocket and waited then he literally said I waited until James. Cameron was in a good mood gave it to him because James Cameron had famously said to Sony when they bought it. They're like you don't put a pop song at the end of Schindler's List <hes> and so he didn't want to have a song but then he heard slain Johnston Iowa and the rest was history he absolutely loved to an Sony was like and then they were able to go. We only paid eight hundred thousand dollars for something. That's sixty million copies WACO's lot. That's a good investment because I've read the James Cameron was like we're just gonNA play lots of India but that's GonNa be literally did a he. He did a sample score built from India songs and then Enya turned down the scoring job call. He called James Horner who had scored aliens aliens with him and James Warner said I was shot because when that movie was over I thought I'll never hear from James Cameron again because he hates me because we fought so aggressively on that film and said I was pleasantly surprised that he called me and I thought well this'll be a great thing to add automatic resume and it ends up I mean James Horner then ends up scoring dozens and dozens of films every which he wins Oscars all the time right right right so this is this is an important movie culturally for a lot of different reasons. <hes> probably the most hype romantic movie ever. Would you say what past the baton to this movie like what had held the belt you mean this movie you mean for like movies that you're most anticipating a painting or like a movie. That's a romance just like when you think romance movie is the first one that comes to everybody's head. There's not even an argument is gone with the wind. It is yeah yeah wild. That's a crazy thing to say because that was made a million years ago right well and you you know titanic is the fifth highest grossing film of All Time Gone With the wind is number one even if you adjust for inflation and the other movies are Star Wars E. T. and sound the sound of music okay so romantic adjacent film rate sure <hes> so those are those are epic films and I think the anticipation at the Tom was really big because if you did follow along and this wasn't huge because the Internet was chest baby was just a baby to everybody at that point and <music> but like in terms of entertainment writers writing about this and journalist writing about like the ridiculousness of this film and how long how far over budget ahead gone and how long overtime on it had gone but it was discussed a lot an Leonardo DiCaprio was was a little hardtop he was he was an magazines and so on my wall so at this point he was the he hadn't gotten it yet like you hadn't had the the arrival moment but he was like very much the prince who was promised right like this was the guy we we'd seen several different like what's eating Gilbert grape growing pains. You knew it was coming but you didn't know in what regard this is obviously the one I'm more interested in. Let's we'll we'll transition. Talk about principal characters obviously near Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate winslet. I didn't know as well occur backstory. What was her situation upon getting this role because I know she was she had enough swagger that she could get the role with James Cameron like she pushed him to be cast as a role but it does she'd necessarily have the receipts okay so so when I jame Schemer had famously written a treatment for titanic because he himself was a scuba diver and loved <hes> he loved he loved tragedies like I'd love tragedies and I do think this is a pivotal part in my development of loving national tragedies like living learning about them not living that they happen sure but loving porn qualification for I'm glad they happen but I am fascinated with learning about them and so he had done one hundred sixty three page outline none of that so much so much? I don't know how how long has a normal script. How many how long would it to our script be for context yeah a script? The actual thing yeah should be ninety pages exactly outlined line should be a ten Max right pushing it one hundred sixty three is a crowd around right now but James Cameron was a beloved filmmaker at this point had made some box office successes and so this this this outlined got around and it got ought to her agents she had only really famously been in she'd been in an independent film that had done really well heavenly creatures that was her first film and she had been in since insensibility that the script won an Oscar so she'd been Oscar winning being film right okay okay so that was her beginnings but James Cameron has very clearly set on the person he wanted for this film and she turned it down and do you knew that is ooh ah dome but I'm so excited to hear who it is. It is Gwyneth Paltrow who she turned it down to do what sliding doors that's tough tough gwen that is gone onto have much success and she want her own Oscar and she did great but I do. I think she could could've done this role. I think she's to Lanky and like small. Does that make hobby. Is it like look malicious. This is for a paycheck people. Let's be friends. Let me supporters here right. We we wouldn't talk in these terms on a regular episode in the boobs scene is very different. It's not as nick no it is not as connick no you needed a girl with like curves and she had her so that's treasurer so famously Kate winslet auditioned and then when Gwyneth paltrow turning down and she like hounded James Cameron when right him letters daily because she was like I wanted this role so aggressively because I knew that if I got this and she's famously quoted at this now she's like I knew that it would change the trajectory of my career that I would get to do things I wanted to do because I knew this was going to be a success. Although even no one else knew it was going to be a success sure like Shirley no one knew and so she famously sent him roses and we're like I'm your arose. She would all get it. Do you get it I did it. I know it's not as creative as I want it to be. Famously just caught him like I'm your win. I'm the one I'm the one I'm the one and then when she screen tested so she gets the role and so she starts screen testing with guys this this list of guys of who she actually screen tested with not just they auditioned and they were they were called. You had a second callback. She's screen tested with where do we do. We want to tease this. We won't wait for FRONTEX so people have to listen to the aggressive. I get to trivia well. We can't give him one. Give them one so she famously screen tested and you can Google on Youtube with Jeremy Sisto Elton from clueless. You guys how different rent is Jeremy. Leonardo DiCaprio's still has a great career but I do not think Germany has a different career like he's had a really kind of like poor man's working actor career. He's been working his whole life but like not in anything really like amazing he has. It's a different thing. It's like the fact that brought him in makes me question everything like that. You thought you can call a movie with this guy but like he does look like a super J._v.. Middle School version of Leonardo understand so yes so when Kate winslet's screen tests us with Leonardo DiCaprio she goes to Jan James Cameron and says even if you don't keep me you should keep him no good and no need were keeping both of you. It's fantastic and so the long longtime love affair between between Kate winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio begins long platonic love affair tonic and it's very disappointing to me 'cause they're like they're to me there. My equivalent to Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams like I feel the same way about Kate winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio as I ugly disagree I feel like the sexual chemistry between them as like wet paper and that's fine chemistry in the that's fine that is a sign that they are both incredible actors. That's true they could fain. It's not it's not unnatural chemistry like no oh an alley. That's true right okay so let's do. Let's talk about notable supporting characters because <hes> there's not a rich repository of supporting characters in this story because it does fixate so much on rose and Jack so we've got billy Zane who plays the I duNNo. It's not it's not a great. It's not a great villain I for most of my life. I called him cow Honky. When I watched last night it was like no that's cow hockey? Actually I'm sorry but then I but then every time I say that I think of county junior fantastic night's so I'm just GonNa if you're okay with them soon. Akam cal hockey not junior and time yes. We've also got Bill Paxton doing full boat Kelly Maui boy oy surfer <unk> here his name's Iraq my name's Brock Finance Brock Bra I his moment here everything about it is so his tan like how can he is. It's so painful it's so pain and I feel back then but all loving I love it. This is an all time performance for me and he's not on screen that much. I don't know if the time line is good but this feels like he walked out of twister was on a beach for thirty thirty months and then he walked right into smooth. I hope I love him into a stir where the love that is unparalleled. I love him so much. What a run what around for the and then also Kathy Bates? I guess like I can see in the hundred sixty three page outline where oh she was a more rich supporting character but as it is part is she's not a fictional character either. She is a real person who really dating this and really did those things like really did like tell the guy on the boat <hes>. We're taking this about back late yeah. You don't belong here anymore. We ladies were taking this boat like just where she got her nickname and all the things so it's sad that and Kathy Bates is I think fantastic actress so it's it's sad character actress to go for if you're someone in the smooth but I think and that's a weakness we'll talk about later on. I think the supporting characters in this movie or just very under served for good reason but I think there is some room <hes> to wiggle a little bit so okay so those are the notable uh supporting characters and principal characters. Why don't we talk? There's a lot that this film and this movie asks of people. That's a trope in cinema period right the suspension disbelief idea they will ask you to do things into accept things <hes> the good movies gain equity in currency with you so that when they make that ask it's fine bad movies. Don't this movie with an Epoca scale with grand sweeping ideas and things and it's based on a historical events so there's a lot to suspend disbelief on. Do you have any you WanNa throw at let me James Well for me. The thing that was really hard to believe. Is that like at one point. I just felt like there was no consistency about and this is a simple thing about how freaking cold it was like like you are going through the north the North North Atlantic right in your poll. Maybe they were going to know what was really gonNA say North Pacific and that's okay well. That's a different maybe like that is that's. That's been AFLAC and kate back. Josh Hard Net's there and that's that's right. Josh Hartnett Have Been Jack Maisy. Maybe I might have been here for that. The problem is that like they're never like they're just sitting and he showing her Frenchwomen in his book and their spitting and it's like like they're having like it's not cold and in that continues with like at one point when she's trying to get his. His handcuffs off and she is Blue Lips and they're in the water like you're dead already like your this water is twenty eight degrees. You have died on that elevator like you are not alive anymore so we're supposed to believe that it is but not a cold enough that they really would've died but yes because I rather thing once about the titanic that most of the people would have been dead before the ship was completely fond they would have died on the deck. Wow rid the water yeah because they would have had water on their feet and they would have already had hypothermia before they would've even hit the water interesting. 'cause I mean he set Jack says a from Jump Street when <hes> spoiler Kate winslet about the jump and he's like yeah. It's freezing like it's one one degree above freezing. I think you'll be dead very quickly so we know it's called all-time yeah. <hes> I've got a couple nitpicky ones <hes> the very beginning of the movie that picture of the Naked Bubis yeah. It's been there for a trillion years and hasn't disintegrated in inks held up or the whatever the from the Pencil sharpie pounds. It's fine they. Hey you WanNa talk that. It's it's a pencil drawing and they're like Oh. No this one of them finding that ocean it's in perfect mint condition. It's fine no it's not it's also jackets on the boat because he wins tickets rank card game name. Yes who's wagering their tickets on the titanic like it's not we know it's not really guide. Gambling addicts are doing that addiction problem. No that's holding seeing that but like that would require someone putting something on the table. That's like oh my gosh. That's so valuable. I have no the recourse than to put my titanic tickets on the table. Yes but I listen. I had seen the movie Jessica chastain in Mali that molly movie molly's he's going good. You got it got it that was good and I've seen her molly's dizzy how people like with sacrifice financially their whole lives so titanic tickets would prism and these were first class like nice tickets these were. You'RE GONNA be in a bunk room with seventeen children that you also are going to have to know it was three Swedish Bros.. Who looked very chill and super bowl? You're going to have to share this room with seventeen small children that you will have to raise when you the you actually never spend any time there we ever see those people again so it's fine believe that he would have been allowed anywhere where first class people would have been. There's no way that that listen when I'm on a plane if I even looked towards the direction of first class at an airline lieutenant comes to my seat and says don't even think about it. Don't you do that ever again. I don't ever want to see the White Sea rise. The runner up is that the OL- old rose old rose. She's a trillion play Gloria Stuart right who was nominated for an Oscar so she's also a valuable supporting actress artistic air quotes viable supporting actress Trooper overrated get out there that there's no way at the age of one hundred fifty eight yeah that she still doing pottery okay get Outta here with that do not bring that in and she can hear a TV six rooms over sparsely playing the volume of what Bill Paxton found no thank you get out of my dad is seventy an icon on the phone and he just mumbles at me like <hes> <hes> he has no idea what I'm saying and I'm literally in his ear he can so there's no way she could here. That's right last one look. When Kate winslet falls over the side of the boat? I Know Leonardo DiCaprio. There's no he's dead lifting eating her up over the rails. It's just not happening. He looks like one hundred forty pounds dripping wet. He's not doing it. 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It won eleven which is a record it holds the most wins it shares that record with Ben Her and Lord of the Rings Return to the King Eh but it was famously not nominated for best screenplay written by James Cameron. No live like who am I but there's a terrible screen. Play is not good writing and that's fine because it looks amazing. It looks amazing enough. Okay I listen to be fair. I'm king of the world was not in the script. It was absorbed by Leonardo DiCaprio. That's pretty wild. I kind of love that right. I mean I do like paint me like one of your pay me like one of the French girls pretty good classic. I love how many I like. The quote just rose. I was watching it. Listen I'm like why does he say her name. A million times and I found a thing that said he says is her name fifty times in this film. That's a great point. It's a great catch by you. That was going to be one of my flaws in the movie. Honestly no no that's. That's a sign of a poorly written thing when you're constantly reiterating the name you're not showing an awareness for character understanding with each other yeah so you constantly need to reestablish. You'll also see it with the guy who looks like he likes the grateful dead at the beginning movie with Bill Paxton. He calls him boss every other sentence well. He knows. He's the boss right so it's it's just it's week riding his James Cameron so what you get no now I do love at the end where she does say oh. Do you mean right before she shows them under the water and she's like she breaks off. Hand is frozen hypothermic hand from hers by I a little faster now remember when I was a kid. <hes> the my my my runner of money quote is <hes>. This isn't actually like a quote quote but it was a quote <hes> like when I did like the audio assistance help on my TV subtitle parentheses the sees sweaty passionate hand slapping on steamy car window because they just did sex stuff in parentheses. That's that's a good runner of course this moment. Can we all agree again. It's cold. They don't heat where where we store the luggage league. We're not heating it. There's no way you're steaming at that. There's maybe they're just doing really good. Maybe they're just GONNA happen. We would love to have a director's commentary on how to do it like that because it'd be great to know so you could get that steam. Come come on okay so let's get to some broad suppose that Jamie so when you watch this <hes> this whole production lots people intersecting with it cultural applications <hes> influences years over who do you you think truly wins this movie okay for me. I really do think Kate winslet one. This movie really asked me spicy. I know it is a spicy type but let me tell you why I like that. She fought for this role because she knows she can look in the mirror and go. I am not a classic person to play this American role. I am famous but only barely in England for being in these British adaptations. It's going to be really hard for me and I am not classically like I got hips and I gotta got a waste and I got and that is not coming here because Gwyneth paltrow does not have those things Claire. Danes does not have this things and so I am going to stick out like a sore thumb here but I think she took that I also like what she did with that currency she earned from Matt Film. I think both Leonardo did a great job post having hit like this because if you think about the people who are in the other for highest grossing films of All Time Scarlett O'Hara famously did not do hardly anything after gone with the wind ah the stars of Star Wars Mark Hamill will tell you himself. It's been a rough rod way right but like Harrison Ford made the most of it right and he made the most of it in got something out of it but like even Julie Andrews people okay well. Julie Andrews had a long illustrious. Did she have a long career or was she just really good in like three things like that's some for them. I think what Kate winslet dead was go. I also know that I'm not going to be somebody that opens a movie like I even at Twenty one. I'm not going to be able to open a movie so I'm going to have to put my head down. Be a character actress. Sit like just be the second third fourth on the call sheet and I'm going to have guess what I'm GonNa get nominated for seven Oscars I doing that so the fact that she's done that and has had a pretty successful especially her ten years after I think she did a good job by being an indies saying I don't have to be in the most. I don't have to be in a superhero me. I don't have to be Kirsten dunst. I can be something else and I can do that really really well and you think about to think about Kate winslet who is her competition. If you think about people who are a year older than her and a year younger than her she's competing against Charlene their own Jessica chastain Amy Adams Sarah Paulson Angelina Alina Julie. I mean that's that's a hard. That's a hard group. That's a hard grew up in the race with yeah yeah now a lot of roles between all those women especially now. I feel for Kate winslet now because I think she's struggling now in the last five years to really find like don't align yourself with Woody Allen. What are you doing like wonder why you're going to be in a movie with Justin Timberlake I showed her or I saw her? Show up in whatever those young adult Dystopian the scorcher hunger Shailene Woodley. She's in whatever person that you need to fire your agent my friend right now so I don't. I don't disagree with you because I think she wins by getting that role. I don't think her character's great so won't give it to her there. I will give it to Leonardo DiCaprio. I know it's pretty obvious but look this is I feel pretty common saying this him peak of his powers. He is throwing one hundred sixty miles now. It's not the powers at this is the peak of his powers. This is why women across generations look at him. Oh Yeah he's a love interest but he's also manic pixie dream boy yeah he's he's checking every single box wchs and he is overcoming a very stilted poorly written screenplay and he sells it and he sells at heart and he improvises in place of needs improvise. He is at and I think even when you look at the physicality of the pairing it's not a classical <hes> physical chemistry kind of pairing but he sells it. He makes it does because she because she does look older than him and she is younger than him in real life right so it was so interesting to see and he did he ushered us into where we were like boy that don't eat. There are favorite lake seriously yeah it really does. That's what we're watching last night. Ashley was like I just don't like them together because nationals gotTa type me obviously. I don't look like I don't know if he gets another. It's sad but she was like that's my only problem with them and I think sometimes that becomes the charm of it like like you're saying Kate winslet she's not the Claire Danes the classic American Beauty. When are we wash last night? I was like I really like her casting in that respect now like that she should there's almost something like hellenistic about her. You know with the red hair very classically stunning sure but not what you would expect not like I like the he's not what you would expect not I like the he's not Chris with like ABS and end traps and biceps right it makes it makes you focus on their chemistry less so than the archetypal chemistry that you're expecting from them yeah no. That's got talk to me about who lost the movie affiliate. There's a lot of contenders were but I really think the person who losses maybe and I am going to have to explain it because in some ways he really did win was James Cameron. I think he lost this. Maybe because what came out of this instead of being jet got like what should have been the headline was brilliant. Filmmaker takes a risk and it pays off it was brilliant filmmaker. WHO's a total a-hole and everybody hates Kate winslet famously said about him? She said there were times when I was genuinely frightened of him. Jim has a temper like you wouldn't believe I decided after titanic. I would not work with him again unless I earned a lot of money right like 'cause that's also that gets on for both of them. They've they've both had relationships with directors where they go. Oh I'm GonNa work with you again. This was such a great experience like nobody wants. Nobody famously goes. I'm I'm GonNa go and work with James Cameron again. That was a Mesa. That's the thing the narrative jump trump and avatar held us off a little bit <hes> but the narrative jump became less like this is an autour genus more just like this is a black hole. Oh Yeah we're and he stuff and he said once he said we labored the last six months on titanic in the absolute knowledge that the studio would lose at least one hundred million dollars. It was a certainty talk about like you've created and you've done that because you've gone so far over budget on every on every even suggested because he said he said one of the reasons I wanted to do that. Haynick is because I wanted to do a deep dive on the wreckage and this way the studio would pay for it which to me. One of the weakest parts of this film is everything that's in modern day makes no sense. It's so stupid. It's just a we could all that and still had a great we could all of it and had a great we could have had a great film but the crew famously called him midge which was backwards for Jim and they said that was his evil alter-ego waitressing and he even because he he was like we're going to get my way or no a and here you can have my eight million dollars back. He was paid eight million dollars to direct the film and he was like No. You don't have to pay me. We're going to have my way. That's just a person who it sounds like generous person lovely but listen. This is also got who did actually offer this is where really the studio becomes a loser. He famously offered at that same time to give back his percentage of the back end and they were like well. This is not gonNa make any money so you can keep that we'll because of that he he ended up making one hundred fifteen million dollars off this foam net. Listen listen never give your percentage away on anything is always keep the percentage Anna he I will say although he is the biggest loser in many respects he did actually meet his fifth wife uh-huh who played roses granddaughter and he's been married her for eighteen years on they have three kids so that's kind of in for I want to give her a little bit of a loser though tough for her to be the fifth why the and three of which he had met on sets you're taking risks but she paid off for her. That explains what she's not a well developed character. She's supposed to be like love Interest Bill Paxton. He blows her off the screen every time there together. Come on get out of here. I'm GonNa give you some characters who lost the movie yeah. I've got three most notably cow Hockley not junior. That's a tough character. That's a very tough character to talk about this his character as the central antagonised <hes> it's misguided because I just don't find him very well motivated. I don't find him grounded in any kind of reality he exists to be so dismissive of rose and never know where she is that she can and find love with Jack but then at the same time be so precious about her feelings that he wants to murder both of them with a gun in the middle of hypothermic water rally it just doesn't it doesn't make sense. I think honestly I think the movie and this is where I think you get the fluffed up three hours fourteen minutes to me. The antagonise movie is the boat or the iceberg right or like the Hubris that comes with both that we can do this and we're safe right right. That's where a lot of the tension. The conflict tension is the fact that he's in there. It has to motivate like the love affair between her and Jack. Honestly I think you could have gotten out with a with a disapproving father figure. You could have gotten that you wouldn't have had to have the whole thing with Cal Hawk lean on junior. Is I loved like I don't think disapproving father is nephew. Do need the lake because I like the Attic Component of your dad's been all our money and now he's dead and you have to find many like I love that because I love historical fiction and I know that that's always a pressing issue for women like it's like your value comes from nothing but your ability to marry well and so I liked that tension of like she really can't just be like only honoring than any other were her like she really doesn't have to go like I can't see you anymore and then even after like he stole this and it's probably for the best because I really need to stay with this guy anyway. We're going to be in serious trouble sure but what I do love about Billy Zane not even that I love about cow but I like billy Zane and the juxtaposition of him and Leonardo DiCaprio because that was a real tension in my own brain. I'm like Oh billy. Zane always ain't as what he's nothing. He's got a but cut and sounds like billy. Zane is gorge is voice voice. Is J._V. Snipe with a Tan. It's terrible. I like all that that that's I'm here with that. Look I think that the risks they ran with having her involved with Billy Zane and I know it could be explained away with her. Mom's like hey we suck now we need money and you have to marry him honestly that whole thing felt pasted on and on the nose because she's like because she's like why do I have to do that mother and she's like because what women and women get no choice. Yes that's true. The way you know it's one hundred percent true but the way you just ex positioned it out in dialogue undercuts. Doesn't that's dialogue fault. That's not I'm not blaming her on blaming the production of the thing especially in unwritten aspect but I think at a certain point you start to under serve the character when you say yes she's capable of being in relationship with a monster like this right you get diminishing returns all of a sudden in terms of the integrity of the character. That's and I just didn't like him as a character. I think the Old Lady House talking about here in a second. She's a big loser of the movie rose. She's the main character in the movie. I'm not accepting that. She's actually I do. I believe in in the grateful dead Techy Guy I think she is imposter and we can get the deleted scenes on that because she's a monster of a person the one I'm satisfied about lost the movie my man for Breezy. Oh Oh my gosh the radio. Why were you here in? What are you here? And why did Jim Cameron at the last minute. Go tell me an Italian name for brief. Okay that sounds good for breezy. Oh and is it cool if we just murder him because a tower falls on him okay. What a sad go our that Guy Addis? He's listening to your best friend. We never see you with him again. Until you're sleeping in your bay you're trying to sleep in your bed and now you're steered you. GotTa get out and then that whole thing's GonNa fall on you. It's very moving backward twenty minutes in and we give Breezy O._B.. And like I can Z. Statue Labor. If I'm here never again and then he gets murdered by TAT like that that's tough. It was like listen. It's like even though it didn't exist yet Ranchi Ratatouille he didn't exist yet. That actor just watched Radha cheery on a repeat. It was like that's the accent I need right WanNa. Do this'll be such a chill Italian accent. It's real soft. It's real tough. Give me who's your low key M._V._p.. From this moving so you're not gonNA like this but my Loki M._v._p.. Is Francis Fisher who did play a roses mom. I like her so much. I generally like her because she's a hardcore be. She was married Clint Eastwood. She don't play like she's a legit like hard hardcore. Didn't they age her out like she was only that's right yeah. They made her look a hundred million years old. I know but I liked the way that she like portrays that I'm wealthy. I'm better but I'm really secretly not and I think when I really was sold on her was when she gets on the lifeboat boat and she gets really upset with her. Be Daughter. We'll get turn a minute her be daughter who is like goodbye mother and then like maybe make I'm going to go get lice from the sky like no. I'm not here for that. I love that she's like sad but like desperate but all also has to say reserve. I thought she played that really well. She did like she's icy cold. She's like I don't know she's she is John. The Baptist for Tilda Swinton. Who's like ginger is called Jesus accent? I feel like I make so much sense to me like I wanna cry about what I said. Okay fully thank you so much m._v._p.. My Lucky M._v._p.. M._V._p.. Is clearly the post mortal spicer love joy the the Beta antagonists movie. He's just that old guy that billy's aims like find out what's up and then two seconds later he knows exactly what's up and then two seconds later. Even though this boat is the size of Idaho he's back telling me Billy Zane what's up it's so he has to own a segue that no one knows about and he's just transporting and traipsing about that boat no one everything at every time at every point point. I'd love this guy. He's such a little B word in this movie to Leonardo DiCaprio yeah but in like a functional way that Billy Zane and cow honky not junior couldn't actually pull off a Lubbock. He's really great. I love him and what a flexible names Spicer lovejoy get at me with with that one Jamie import question. Are you ready. Yes because shallow buffet been this movie if we go chronologically no because he's eleven and there's just not really apart for him but I'm GonNa give time travel travel. Yes I think he's Jack. I think he could totally be Jack. Oh my day. Are you kidding me right now. I want now. Look I want Jack at his. I want shy at has most cleaned up and his most his most sober talk in suburbia or transformers. You know what I want. You may be where he's being followed by the Eagle. I knew a second I knew it in a second I could read the look on your face next. He and Eagle eye is very like I get why Michelle Monaghan A._M.. Falls in love with them because it's like I get what's the age difference between them but I get it Michelle. I get it I do I think he I think he could play Jack Yeah. That's a wild thing you just said and I love it. I think that's amazing. I was going to give them for breezy. Oh like a little more filled out for breezy role and I think it would have been crazy. I think he could have been billy's anes character. I think you could have been on June now. Do He's two week. He's two tiny you. Jamie rent a friend. You've got way too much like recognition for Billy Zane in this movie like to wait until we get to the next category the bully all right so let's talk about biggest flaw. There's a lot of flaws in this movie <hes> let's Parse through through a few of them. GimMe Gimme while you're so my biggest flaw is that cal is actually the better choice for rose on every every plane. Here's why one he's he is just objectively hotter. He's a hotter guy. Okay now. Get your like wait. He treats her bad roses A. B.. She's talking out Freud theories which by the way he had not published for two year two more years but that's fine that he somehow that's cool but she's is passing out theories. She has her Saad piece draw a picture of her and then she puts it in her fiancee's safe and as I buy like that's a hardcore be like so he's dealing with a woman who's art to deal with. I'm not saying she has earned any of that but I'm just saying listen sometimes when people do with you have to do with them. Hardly you know what I'm saying. I don't I wrote down explain a little more. I'm not saying there's anything okay and the situation but I'm just saying let's not make her into the weakling pulling that she is and he is sure well he does slapper he does slapper does but let me say this guess what Rose and Jack Workout to be on. It's called the movie revolutionary road. Let's exact ask screaming at each other because he can't write a book or something. It's tough tough vacation romances. Don't last you kiss a guy in Panama City but you don't marry a guy from Panama City like you don't counterpoint. Just don't do anything with a guy in Panama City and you'll be still there. There's there's no way that an orphan from Chippewa falls who is lake doesn't have any like belongings doesn't have syphilis so you're getting syphilis rose one hundred percent what's going to happen and listen. There is a part of me. Not that really turns round on cow when he I know that you say he comes after her with the gun but before I don't I don't just say that that's actually backed up actual movie just lump around that boat while thinking like a little puppy dog looking looking through those crowds like trying to figure out where is an row sees looking through those crowds for children's to grab in us to get on a boat. That's true you're right. She goes to him like He. He still cared about her getting on a boat like he did care about her. Getting I know he dipped to be that little kids parent to get on a boat himself but still he's not a real person so it's fine. This is fictional character. I just I think in the end you just don't you think you WanNa be with Jack. You do not WanNa be which why you don't make room for him on your on your door. You don't make room for him. Okay well. Let's talk about that because you said a lot of crazy things just now I think the thing that billy Zane objectively hotter than Leonardo Piper. That's probably the craziest thing no. That's is not at that moment not anymore but at that specific moment I think lonely Leonardo DiCaprio is very cute but he is not hot like Billy Zane. I Dunno Jamie. That's crazy. Look I'm with you. I think the the biggest flaw is th they have bad chemistry in terms of like he because actually called it when we were watching after they do the thing in the car that makes it steamed up even though super cold out he lays on her chest like an infant. There's not a lot like palpable physical sexual chemistry well. He's very scared and she's having to calm down. She's like. Are you okay you. You were tracing naked presient. You got like a dozen notebooks of naked presently before me like what's going on right now but I agree I to me after watch. She says movie again <hes>. I think that rose is probably the biggest villain in cinema since like Darth vader because you mentioned that she has no interest in helping her destitute mother right yeah she's real bad of being a fiancee. I E putting the picture of her bubis drawn by dude safe. That's that's a wild move right there. <hes> she definitively will not let Jack on that door he doesn't ask as he's a gentleman. We've covered it. mythbusters is covered ever talked about. There's room and outdoor but just fundamentally. She willfully doesn't understand hypothermia right yeah because he's hanging out in the water. She knows how this goes she seen her. She even says like it's getting real quiet out here jack yet 'cause they're all dying lying and their Jack is also doing that too because you you've never even offered to let him up there and then when she does cut bait with them. She's like I'll never I never looking okay about whistle. Where's the whistle get Outta here and then like so after okay? It's like look we're all young and we make stupid decisions. That's fine. I understand we evolved. Oh right. We grow the thing that troubles me. The most yeah is after the titanic because Jackson you're GonNa live a full life and have tons of babies and die warm and your bed right that's hopeful but when we cut to all those pictures she packs of herself that she takes everywhere which is a horrific psychotic thing to do full stop what are you would you know spotless pictures Jamie all her solo big Sur's. What it is the precursor to your instagram feed being just sell `this like just sell fees but not selfish because technology doesn't exist? It's getting someone to take a picture of just you. That's crazy lastly Ashley. I've talked about this other live show. She takes something that diamond and just throws away too and they say in the movie. It's it's similar in value to the hope diamond right. That's our that's a baseline. Do you know off the top your head how much the hope diamonds worth lake one hundred million dollars three hundred fifty million dollars she could have built like three more titanic's with that diamond but because she needs closure on her stupid old life she just like right into the water. That's crazy that's Dorthy and this is how we knew if you were wondering. When did we know like? When did we get the first clue that rose is a sociopath? Here's what we know it when the girl goes to commit suicide because she's so oh desperate and she ryan cries to about and then she doesn't commit suicide and then guess what she's on no more depression wine and she doesn't like to end. She's learning to spit like Oh. Everything's good now. She's learning to spend like Jack about to get basically caned. I think on the boat yeah and she doesn't immediately say like hey you know what it was like. She just kind of watching she's like. I don't know let's see what happens. Let's get weird. I kinda like we're things you maybe we actually knew when she got out of the car at the at the port where she gets out and she looks at which is one of the best ask like that. Costume designer designed that Oscar because everything was phenomenal but when she looks up and she's like I don't know what all the fusses about grow. This is the biggest ship in history the biggest history you. This is the biggest the state of your luggage bringing this boat for seven days our here with you crazy person. It's so yeah no that's pretty good. That's the big flaw I would. I would just small other nitpicks. I think the only only non flat character the only actually dynamic character that anyone's ever interested in spending time with is Jack everyone else I will say the three Violin Bros.. I like them about other than that. If you're just a few like you gotta spend thirty minutes with the character. Is there anybody else you'd rather spend time with Jack. Oh No of course mine. He's the only interesting guy which sucks and I think that's an Avatar for James Camera. Unfortunately which is where you see his self-indulgence also this is forty-five minutes too long this as a crate is it is when it when the when they first so this was supposed to come out in July of that year came out in December because in July the movie was five hours long Oh but James but hang on your crazy eh but James Cameron was he was angry that they were mad because he was like well in April. This movie was thirty six hours long like they hadn't cut the footage yet. They had like a thirty six hour or rough cut because it is normal for movies to be like a six hour rough cut and then they're gonna like take out big but this is a guy who said Oh no no no. I want to go with a thirty six hour. REFUGEE SINK thirty six. That's not an arbitrary number. That's an actual number in in April. It was thirty six hours long he goes. I got it to five budget La. They're like no. No you telling me my man shot a movie that takes a little day and a half to watch. Get outta here crazy so this is like it's it's just it's too low. It's too long because you could cut out every bit of the modern component and we would we would be that's. That's my thing I understand the grounding element yeah. It doesn't pay off. It's a waste of bill tax. Bill Paxon's time honestly sleep is it's a disrespect to him. I think the source of compelling enough and I think a lot of the early third act stuff where they keep getting into almost drowning hijinks you know in the steered section of the boat. Just get rid of that. You know they're not gonNA drive down here. That's exactly right we we don't need twenty minutes to get to Leo in Kate. It takes twenty minutes in the film to get to the stars. That's stupid like them and let's get away with abandoned children's crying about to get drowned out. Komo one was good. I don't need six. We didn't need as many now. That's true that's true. That's crazy okay so let's get on. There's a lot of Trivia and fun facts about the everybody's been open about the production of hit me with some of the more interesting facts one of my favorite somebody that was almost cast as as Jack and it did not come out until last year when Kate winslet who had do love more so than Leo in terms of his look. I love when somebody goes look. I know what made me famous. I'm not stupid. It's this movie and so when they did a twentieth anniversary she showed up red carpet because we didn't show up Leonardo he does not like to be asked questions about titanic and I always always GonNa be famous. He didn't need this movie. He didn't get it but like hello literally. One half of your Ermete like boxoffice comes from this one movie like we get famous. I'm never watching her talking about the Bachelor Bachelorette again. HOW WE'RE GONNA get famous you know at an I know it? I'll write it off and I'll be like what is that a show understand what about but I was interesting as she was an interview and she said well she goes. You know we've never no one's ever talked about. This and I don't know why because Matthew mcconnahey was supposed to be Jack same that's insane to think about him and then explaining his accent on that note with but I think the chemistry will be more interesting because he's definitely dirtier street route and then apparently Leonardo DiCaprio was cast so they went back to Matthew mcconaughey. We would like to cast ashtray as cow like we would like eating now that I'm actually disappointed and I would have liked to have seen that. Although he had that southern accent he tried all lean into it. There's something about a menacing Texan. Who's WHO's like pissed at the way Texas was Texas like a thing I mean I know it was a thing Texas a thing in nineteen twelve? I don't know what Texas became a thing but it feels like it wasn't like a big thing yet molly Pittsburgh where callous from underrated thing look all I'm saying is like a cuckolded Texan is a dangerous element your fill very interesting. It's dangerous element in your life so if you know them she careful walk gently so so one of my favorite facts is that the the year before this this maybe had been in production for two years famously the year before a TV miniseries came out called Titanic starring Peter Gallagher and Catherine Zeta Jones. Oh strong eyebrows strong eyebrows eyebrow work it famously did not do well in the critical reception was poor so to speak it costs more to make tonic the movie than it costs to make titanic the ship ship and that is adjusted for inflation makes sense twenty million dollars twenty million dollars to make titanic the movie Cameron James Cameron was actually the person who sketched rose. That's his drawing he did drawing and even like what's funny is that he was attended to detail because he was left handed and Leonardo copiers right handed and those are his hands that they're filming and they reversed it in the edit so that it would still look like like it was a a right hander drawing the but this is also got who had a guy hold a flashlight and flashlights didn't exist in one thousand nine hundred thousand not even close close did care but not like at the end. You were just like this is going to be a fail failure who cares told the flash but what are they going to have torch us on both get out of here. You're fired but by the way that scene where like Leonardo DiCaprio sketches her is the first seen they film together in the phone which they said Jim Jim Cameron was like well. I didn't want that to be the case but the boat wasn't finished so we can do anything on the boat so he had to do things that were not on the boat like they were just in like rooms or whatever and he said I will say it broke the ice very quickly. Even though they had rehearsed she before they go out and she's getting makeup put on she just flashed Leonardo DiCaprio she goes. You're going to see it in a minute so you might see it now and so he's hearing is K.. Winslow's about to be in the METOO movement sexual harassment. That's very true. That's very true. Would you like to guess at auction how much that drawing sold for I believe one hundred thousand Jim Cameron bought it. It was sixteen thousand dollars a person sixteen sixteen thousand dollars for that drawing. That's creepy. Are you a little surprise. The James Cameron hasn't been looped into the metoo situation or do you think he just marries the people that he's really like physically interested in. That's why I I don't think he's actually I think he's just a whole not a sexual harasser porn qualification. There and I think there's a difference. I think you jerk but you actually don't you. Don't you're not a jerk based on sex gender. You're just just a jerk to everybody. I will say it's a tough move. It's quite a power flexibile like I seen were starting with the booby drawing. Let's go the funny thing he famously May when they went into the titanic filming like the wreckage the the crew that was on that ship with them or so angry at Jones Jim Cameron ramp thinking he was like the ish like the great scuba diver and that he was he was so mad about like the way that they were running ship. One of the guys working on the ship put P._C._p.. In all their food and fifty people had to be taken to the hospital I saw that I saw that somebody hits you so much. They trying to drag you. I think I've read the like bill. Paxton wasn't the same for like eight weeks. The place which is why is air probably looks like that now my favorite thing and this is not really about the movie I mean really but like famously Neil degrasse Tyson who knew we would get a fact about him. This is my least favourite. I know it's the worst fact he didn't watch panic for many years because I don't watch movies like that feels like I'm very neil degrasse Tyson way of being and he watched the maybe and then he took issue with the same where roses lying on the piece of wit and looking up because he said he he sent James Cameron an email that James Kamer described as a very snarky email <hes> that explained that the Star Field Rose on the movie isn't the one she would have seen in real life at that place in time and James Cameron for redoing the Re Three D. Edition version of the movie he changed the Star Field is seems like just stopped getting snarky emails from Tyson you. Do you want to be able to block him. Legitimately so that way to like okay I fix this shut up can face to face get outta here. Yeah I read that Tom Cruise was considered for Jack. Brad Pitt was considered for Jack. Here's an I'm gonNA seriously. Do you have more no no. I was GONNA say Tom Cruise I would have if you remember Tom Cruise from the outsiders that guy he could have been Jack for sure. I can see that the one I read that the was the most seriously considerably he actually passed was Johnny Depp. They really pursued him. Well you know Jim Cameron. The other one. I heard was that James Cameron thought out jared leto after because he was watching he was watching my so called life because Claire Danes was in the running to be in the film sure any liked him so much but jared Leto and this seems very brand refused to audition he would only do it if he got the row outright a love it as that's a that's a huge power flex as a fourteen fourteen year old yeah worked for you. Tell tell us again like other people are playing the joker even while you're injured or films because they're like well that wasn't great. That's tough if you're ever if you've gotten like an iconic role and they're like no no. We're going to another one but it'll be a little different. It'll be walking phoenix but you can do your thing too. It's like your comedy. Yeah that's fine. You shouldn't feel self conscious about that. That's fine. I found something it says doesn't twenty seventeen. There's a shanghai-based drama group called Dream River Dream Weaver productions and <hes> they invite fans of the film titanic experience the doomed voyage firsthand aboard ship refurbished look exactly like the luxury liner aboard the board the vessel which will sail along the Hong Pu River in November <hes> aw it's basically westworld okay but on titanic <hes> so if you pretend you can choose to be part of it and you can be in character income dressing or you can just come to watch and Jamie for just thirty thousand dollars you can play the role of rose and have everything happened to you it so welcome to our next patron level. Oh my gosh that is a dream. Come true that genuinely but see here's the problem I'd do that and then somehow. I don't have enough money. I'm a bank account and then steerage. I've gotta be steerage also also by the way one person that was almost cast but she couldn't change your haircut because she was ten <hes> Caffeine director the casting director chose Lindsay Lohan to play Cora the little girl and James Cameron brought her and he was like no no she can have red hair rose has red hair. It'll be confusing and so she got dumped. Leo's guy like a fetish so in the CY healthy we can't do that so let's get no Lindsay Lohan wishes that had happened and because she would have been up on that not seriously even as an eight-year-old even as an eight year old okay last category Jamie. I want you to put a number grade on this movie. Okay be objective really think about this critically what your number score. I feel like you know that I can't because this is this movie is so entangled with so many things about movies that I love levoca tragedy. I love a good romance. That's also set in history so I'm actually going to stick with the rotten tomatoes score and I'm GonNa give an eighty nine. Oh interesting okay a sub ninety okay. I'm GONNA give it. Here's here's the good <hes> it's an iconic epoch story. The production is pulled off pretty perfect. Yeah like that's sequence of. I don't know forty minutes when it's going down slowly and everybody's kind of retreating rooms and and it's it's that's an unparalleled piece of production <hes> that being said the sporting hearings was terrible. The writings very weak so I'll give it a seventy eight okay seventy eight okay. That's right. I will say you're exactly right win that when the water is coming in and listen that end where the boat is like tipping and they and here's the thing I read this is just an extra bonus fun fact the guy who's drinking the whiskey when they're on when the boat is almost like ninety degrees and the guys the baker is drinking the whiskey is he the one all white Allan White and he's like wanting to pass her the whiskey the literally the real Baker and he literally was drunk and they say that is literally why he survived. He spent twenty minutes in that water any should have died but he was rescued and they say it was because everybody else was flailing about and and it's the same reason like I was in a car accident with drunk and the like drunk drivers are never really injured because they don't tense up when it happened or so loose I know so if you are alcohol is the answer guys that's right. You're on a ship. That's going down suggest you get that whiskey and go to town. 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I want my dermatologist who kept like just throw in shade left and right and you're like okay well if y'all WanNa look like that good for you but the rest of us over here going to inject we're going to get our dogs and we're going to use our retinol. We're GONNA use sunscreen Jamie. Amy I gotta ask you a question. Yes is this APP given the Russians all are are significant sensitive data. Here's the thing that's the other thing that I'm GonNa Red Light. is everybody then suddenly being like oh no Putin. The Russians have my phone. ooh listen first of all the Russians don't want you. Don't be honest with you because then y'all got screen shots that orienting okay are the worst right but they did actually come out like the and let me be official so Jeremy Tech projects director at the the `electronic frontier found all of that you say nonprofit civil liberties said that their privacy policy in terms and conditions are actually the same as like every other eappen your phone or he said look you should have issue with all these apps not just the face APP. I actually really liked that approach. Yeah you know look. You're already in it because you love you. Instagram immigrants probably doing more things bad with your data than ever like the face app then guess what am impressed by they built by the ability to make make people look like that yes do I appreciate the discrimination of men always looking better sure as they got older woman somebody y'all women you need to wear you need to go by your empty sunscreen right now. This is not an AB. This is just me trying to protect you from your set him with a link to get on your newsletter so they can download Jamie Golden Dot com and you can sign up for money's letter and get a free principal God on my ten step skincare retain guys. I'm sixty seven right now. She's so old. I don't even know old and I look very young. I did you do it. Did you look oh absolutely not so. You and I watched Aaron do it. She wouldn't show us what she looked like traumatic but she said it was her bird box and she'll never not see that again in her life I I didn't do it actually did it for me. She did a picture of me. Oh my mom. My mom thought it was her father. She thought it was a picture of a great. You know I I was hoping to look like George Clooney. Even though there's no facial reason why should look vertically lane but there's hope hope is not a strategy and it's still is not my grandfather so I didn't accomplish that but whatever and the problem is all y'all listen. If anybody sends me myself sure this APP not only will I block you. I Will Vin Mo- Oh you twenty five dollars. You stop at right now. I'm a block. You and I don't play Y'all twenty five. He's never going to get to see my content again. Hold that would you because I'm a block the crap and the money I will give to you as opposed to money money that you can only look at its decorative money. I will say this to things. It's really impressive. They do a good. It's so impressed. Cells of the Russians definitely have your face yeah they do. They do faith faith. They have everything else. Give them your face to just like make out. That's going to get edited that all right my red light is the trailer that was recently released for the movie Hustler's. Have you seen this trailer. I have not seen the trailer yet so excited about this movie. We'll look I didn't know about it. I was just popped in my twitter feed and it was like Hustler's and Jennifer Lopez was probably involves like was probably terrible movie and it's Jennifer Lopez <hes> it's inspired by a Newark magazine article in the premise of the movie is that falls a crew crew of savvy former clip employees who band together to turn the tables on Wall Street clients savvy leader was that would be Jaylo that would Jalen so I'm assuming this is a sequel to the big short and I'm here for it. I'm all then on that. <hes> the reason redlining it. It looks really good and I don't know how to reconcile seeing this movie. What what about Cardi B.? How does she look in szucs fine? She looks minimized so it's smart right. There's <hes> there's a lot of constance woo which looks good ally constantly. There's a lot of Louis Reinhard which I didn't initially think was good but for Riverdale but I thought okay I kind of like how you're you till <hes> trying this. Julia stiles is they're the shot stripper no. I don't think she has I think she saw the straight man to the strippers but I always see her at the bottom of those blog posts. It's like you won't believe with joy. Style looks like yes and they're not wrong. Julia stiles dated for like five years most recently prior turt- Partner Assuming Josh Hartnett no David Harbor Hopper what David Hopper dates right now winona ryder eleven eleven of his eleven. Would you have a problem. I would have a serious problem. How old is she just so I know fifteen okay to on the record yeah hopper dates Queenie from fantastic really Queenie who used to be the musician a fan frenzy? I didn't know that either right. I didn't know that all right well so there's like speaking of musicians. There's a say anything about a musician day. Okay Liz in this lizard is there a stripper was a stripper and this so it looks it looks glossy of any shall have new songs in the soundtrack soundtrack. I like the soundtrack concept of I think it will. I think this might be okay comes on September so I don't know we'll find out so what's your this week. Okay my Greenland. This Week is look you guys I know everybody recommends books to read or in the summer and then just like just get something lights reever sure that'd be somebody go different direction. Your summer has been chest so lighthearted. You need to come down back to reality as we're moving back into August and the fall. Let me recommend Colton Whitehead's ads the nickel boys so here's the thing this book is. He won the Pulitzer for his underground railroad. He this book is better. If that possibly really so this comes around from colder whitehead had been reading the Tampa Bay Tom's uh-huh which is this whole other thing I can't believe it and he was reading about archaeology students at the University of South Florida who were trying to figure out the remains and identify the remains of these students who had been tortured mutilated and then buried in like the secret graveyard at a state run school for boys in Marianna Florida which is a lot to take in what you welcome well. It was a lot for coal to take care so he took it in and he started learning all about this dosier school for boys which was like a reform school that operated for more than a century and the place was horrific and so he brought the school to life in this fiction story and it all surrounds around <hes> this one Ellwood Curtis one of the blaze this is Jim Crow the era Florida and he is just trying he's just has hope and he ends up in the school and it kind of tells you the stories <hes> it's kind of back and forth between the officials of the school and the leaders of the school and the boys just trying to survive this reform school. Here's the thing it is beautifully written coal to if you have ever read any Colin Whitehead's work you already know what a fantastic writer he is. It's a short like just about two hundred pages but what he packs accent two hundred pages it is I I don't cry very often period and I cried in the midst of reading this book it is. It's a powerful read. I think it's a necessary read because I think it tells what is likely very much true stories for a lot of people and a lot of young men who attended the school and it's just really it's just really fantastic so nickel boys cult on my head. Just because it sucks to re doesn't mean it's unnecessary. No that's exactly right but I will say. Just you know always a heads up. If read read about the book before you dive in like it is a lot at the bees yeah and so if you have any of that any history just know that this might be a trigger for that <hes> mark green light is just as serious right spiderman into the spider verse. Oh Oh wow I miss this when it comes to theater in like Oscar season which fills like weird. I don't know why I didn't see with my son because usually were all about movies like that but I've missed it. It's on Netflix now so <hes> we hit it up yesterday and <hes> to to thumbnail it's about so <hes> it centered around the character of Miles Morales <hes> and there's alternate dimensions different realities which can get a little trippy to explain but it's very very simply explained in the movie so I credit them to <hes> for easily explaining pretty complicated idea but basically there's five different realities of spider-man's. They all come together to try to stop a threat in miles. Morales is the principal element of that <hes> visually this movie's incredible. It's so good I have never seen anything like it. I don't know that I've ever seen anything like it again. It's written by the Lord who I'm a big Fan of Lord Miller fame from the lego movie <hes> from part of the solar movie from what's The Wolf Forte T._v.. Show last minute asked me on earth so it's got a very comedic vibe <hes> it features as Noth- features. It's a sporting character J. Johnson which is my spirit animal just in life and that's the proper Peter Parker <hes> but there's also just litany litany of really great voice actors like Haley Seinfeld mercilesly Brian tyree Henry <hes> Zoe Kravitz. I didn't realize crabs so she showed up <hes> Nicholas Cage <hes> Catherine Han. It's really it's clever. It's hilarious. <hes> it is is it has stakes. Actually I stakes because normally you you you fire up an animated movie anything. You're going to get a certain kind of thing like a incredible to like kind of serious but not really but this is really really good really well done on really representative really accomplish movie and I really enjoyed my kids loved it so if you're looking for something to watch one of these summer nights on Netflix I think you'll really enjoy spider-man's I loved it and you know who this one of the secret sauces of it is for me John Mullany mullany John Mullany Spider Ham poker. I try to do the thing of when I'm watching. I don't see who it is a senior figure it out. I couldn't figure like Nick Cage. Got It. Him never could until the craft so good so oh alright Jamie. That's GONNA do for this up so the podcast every time you doing shopping Amazon. The COP shops us. I guess I they really are very entrepreneurs. Using that linked this week was is a very important item right Jamie. This is <hes> it's called a keychain car. You're escape tool. That's a lot can you explain what that is so this is and this was actually we're guessing this was purchased because our newsletter list of all of our favourites and you if you go to our link at Amazon dot com slash shop flashed the podcast you can see our favorite Amazon vom purchases in our shop. That's right but this is Aaron. Yes because Erin is a three on the ideogram that goes to six nine and Erin deals with her. Favorite products are all dealing with her paranoia and her fear of pain. She's a bit of an evangelist for future trauma. 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Episode 9: All or Nothing

Blockbuster

36:42 min | 6 months ago

Episode 9: All or Nothing

"Previously on blockbuster. All right. Here we go. You See. It's the hall of the ship. Imagine this thing in all its glory, it must have been beautiful. This is incredible Jim. You think let me make the movie. It has to be perfect. Did. The bring yeah. Often wasting all that effort just to shoot a moving I met schrader and blockbuster starts now. See James had teamed up with producer Jon Landau a former Fox executive to form a new production company light storm entertainment they were breaking in their new offices auditioning actors for Titanic. And speed. Are Go ahead. Dawson it's been a pleasure I thought you had to thank you. Both Gwyneth paltrow and Claire Danes had come in to audition but neither were right to play the character of rose. There was also fierce competition for the male lead. Tom Cruise wanted the part. But at thirty five, he was a bit too old and Matthew, mcconaughey to twenty-seven. James wanted this to be a story of I. Love he sorted through. Of Actors with his Casting Director, Mali Flynn, and they'd eventually find a match. They scheduled a screen tests to see the chemistry between twenty old British actress, Kate Winslet and twenty one year old Leonardo DiCaprio. All right sorry. I'm late. That's all right. Just getting acquainted Kate again and Leo Hello Hey Mr Camera Please Jim Okay Jim. I was thinking. I don't really want to do the audition scene. Why not? Well, it's a bit. Like for me, Leo was an up and coming actor and even at twenty one years old took his craft seriously but so did James you're reading. I've got kate here from England. All right. So this is a walk and talk seen after rose tries to throw herself off the ship and it's the first real conversation. So we need that spark. We all set up Yup and my stars. Okay Great. roll camera. I'll read you. Take one and action. Jack and rose walk side by side. Well. Rose. We've walked about a mile around this boat deck and I reckon. That's not why you came to talk to me I. I want to thank you for what she did. Not just for. For pulling me back. But feel discretion you're welcome. But. I know what you must be thinking poor little rich girl. What does she know about misery? No. No, that's not what I was thinking. When I was thinking was look could have happened this go to make her think that she has no way out well. It was everything my whole world and the people in it kate. Held out her hand to Leah revealing an engagement ring. Look at that thing you had gone straight to the bottom. I, feel I'm. Standing in the middle of a crowded room, screaming at the top of my lungs and no one even looks up. Do you love him. Pardon me. Joe Being very rude. Oh, they're perfect. Shouldn't be asking me this. Simple question I love the guy or not? This is absurd. You are rude and uncouth and presumptious and. I'm leaving now Jack Mr Dawson. It's been a pleasure I sought you out to thank you and now I have. Thank you and you've insulted deserved it right right. I thought you were leaving. I am. Sure so annoying. Wait I don't have to leave. This is my partnership usually. Oh, well, well now who's being rude. and seeing that was incredible. Even, if you don't hire me, you have to hire him you both got the job. Kate and Leonardo had an incredible chemistry and production moved ahead. This blockbuster film would employ more than two thousand people over the next year many working six days a week. Most of their filming would be in Mexico, but James also needed to shoot the present day scenes ever crew discovering the remains of the titanic. These scenes would open an end the film and James knew the perfect ship to get the job done. The Kelvin CH-. This is blockbuster. The story of James Cameron. Episode. Nine. Halifax Nova, Scotia. It was the closest major city to where titanic sank and a place that had buried many of the dead. They were off the coast filming scenes of Bill Paxton diving in the submersible cut gamut. What's the issue with the lighting here? Do I need come? Do it? Myself James ran a tight ship and the crew? Some of them locals were starting to get frustrated after the first few days of James Barking orders, and now there was a bad case of the flu going around delaying his shooting schedule Timid were. Not set up just wasting everyone's time here and money about twenty thousand dollars every hour three, hundred, grand a day. James had been through this before and came in with precise plans for everything. He saw barking orders as being most efficient with an enormous crew command in real time after aliens one reporter even went so far as to dub him the scariest man in Hollywood a title that now followed him everywhere. Third Jon Landau was walking toward James with a cell phone in hand. Jerem you've got a call. Who is it Jamie. Composer Jamie Horner had been trying to get a hold of James to discuss the films music. Hello Jamie. Jamie Ya I know what's up. Tiffany music. To. Panic mood. Come on. Jamie. That's. Are you in a good mood. No, not really can this wait? Yes. Yes. All thanks. John. Here's your phone back. What was that about the fucker final? He'll call back later. Guys it's match Raider here for keeps and as guys. There's nothing like getting a fresh haircut but as we get older and older into our twenties and thirties are hair starts to go and that's where keeps comes in did you know two out of three guys will experience some form of male pattern baldness by the time they're thirty five. Now, how do you prevent that? While the best way is to try to prevent that hair loss while you still have hair left? That's where keeps comes in. You don't have to go to the doctor's office. You don't have to go get some prescription medication at a pharmacy you can do it all right online, a doctor's GonNa. 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More and more people were slumping over on their tables. James turned back to a soup. which seemed to be changing shape and waved his hand in front of his face. That's Weird He. Had, blurred. Vision. Oh God. It's the soup but nobody eat the soup James stumbled his way out of the room and into the bathroom to try to make himself throw up. He slipped in and out of days. As his vision morphed and twisted. In there. Are Are. He carefully stood up unsure how much time had passed. Stumbled out of the bathroom to find the ship empty. No one incite. where? I have to get out of here how? Do I get out of here in the blink of an eye someone yanked him back into reality. into the room where there was still pandemonium. Good drew over here back over here you good. I'm. A good. One of James. Is was completely bloodshot bright red like the Terminator. Good Yeah Yeah I threw it up it's wearing off. The crew had now formed a Conga line. James knew this wasn't food poisoning. This was something worse. The teamsters would skip the super rushing people out to a nearby hospital. Christie the second Ad Christie Sills was standing few feet away staring straight back at James Looking dazed he picked up his walkie. Christie come in over Christie seems startled and reach for walkie. Christie here go ahead over James waved his hand. She didn't respond still looking straight back Christie what's your twenty over? She picked up her walkie again. At. The hospital. What? Christie. You know you're talking to me on your walkie and I'm standing right in front of you Kristie suddenly looked confused and panicked. Your justice fucked up as we are at that moment, Kristie charged teams to attack with a pen hand. Hey. Hell Of course, but bounced back on the Jon Landau and Bill Paxton both rush James. Away. Jesus you. Okay Man. What the Hell's going on. I think somebody drugged the suit. James Right. The toxicology report showed it was a hallucinogenic drug PCP that someone had poured into the soup. Only the VAT that James had eaten out of. He realized someone had tried to poison him and endangered the whole crew more than fifty people were treated at the hospital but no one seriously hurt. Hey it's jammed. Going on. What do you mean? It was bill mechanic the head of motion pictures at Fox. The closest thing James had to a boss. Trades calling me asking for comment about this PCP thing. Oh. How'd you hear about that? Yeah. Yeah. Somebody drug the soup. Oh my God. How many people aided about fifty people everyone's fine. Krushtchev everyone's fine. Nobody was hurt just looking at a couple of days of delays. No no catering says it was someone on the crew but we don't know police think that maybe someone was trying to pull a prank on me. Yeah. They didn't find anything. It's a fluke thing. They just want a juicy story it'll go away. We're going to get slammed by press for this gym. Guys. Get it under control. 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They'd actually only built the starboard side of the ship which is visible from land. The rest would be done with computer generated graphics, but James Blue Eyes sparkle. He looked at this great ship harped on the shore of his own miniature film studio months of filming would pass here action already seventy five million dollars spent just halfway through titanic was proving to be the most expensive and difficult production of all time for Fox and entertainment press was already beginning to whisper rumors that Fox's titanic would be an enormous flop. Hello Jamie. I have something you might like. But you need me in a good mood. Doesn't good time I'll call you back. James. Was Onset and Rosa Rosarito going up into the motorized. With Horn and camera attached to it with this. James Good swoop all around giving instructions to people on the deck of the titanic and the more time passes the more gossip. He was hearing secondhand about how much of a disaster is film was he knew his friends and his parents were reading the same headlines seeing him struggling publicly to supervise an impossibly ambitious project and with so many hoping he'd fail. Variety had even launched a regular Titanic Watch column scrutinizing the latest fallout from set James knew he'd get a call from the executive soon if not the head of Fox's parent company Newscorp for now, he was up in his crane, the God's eye view of his set. With. Leonardo DiCaprio on the deck. Are we all set up here. Leo Hey. Jeb You ready to improvise the magic in the film. Jack is a poor teenager who one is taken aboard this majestic ship in a card game. James wanted a scene of Jack discovering the front bow of the ship and emotional high for his character. But everything fell to staged and the lines weren't landing right? So do you kind of a hoot and Holler when I get up on this railing or? What? Yeah. Yeah. But maybe say something Whatever comes to you naturally. I'm just not sure what Jack would shout out in this moment you know. Coming snake eyes to. The just going. Blue Like, I'm on a roller coaster. All right I've got one for you just say. I'm the king of the world. Hot. Just say I'm the king of the world and and just spread your arms out wide and just be the moment and just love it and just celebrate it and love it. But. Why would I yelled at? It sounds unnatural but you've got to sell it. What just fucking sell it. Okay. Okay. Hey. Hey. The line would make for one of the most iconic moments in movie history as Jack Sores arms outstretched on the front of the ship. James sat down at the kitchen table of tiny little trailer eating cold spaghetti leftover from lunch. He Knew Twentieth Century Fox was panic at the escalating costs. He was dreading his next phone call with them. WHO's there bill? Bill Bill Mechanic Jim. The head of motion pictures at driven down the Baja. Peninsula to Rosarito and James knew it was never good when one of the suits made a housecall. Hey Joe. Hey Bill. What What are you doing here? James Sat back down to continue eating his plate of cold, spaghetti. What's really great out there Jim, yeah yeah it's a lot of things. Nobody's ever done before. So it's it's really going to be unique. Is this the part where you say it's the money you've got to appreciate our position and very appreciative and we wanna keep it looking great. Well all right then. But from a financial stand. Film is wildly out of control and we really need to contain the damage. Bill laid two pages of notes on the table, a list of shots yet to be filmed with some of them highlighted. These are some shots we'd like you to cut from the shootings. Good. James is widened. He was worn down from lack of sleep and stress dark circles under his eyes. He scanned the list and his body stiffen as if bracing for the confrontation to come. Things are getting pretty desperate Jim. I've cut over thirty shots already bill nodded his head as if to empathize with James, you want me to hack apart the film I've put now years into. Well. Fox had over leveraged itself. Now, a lot was riding on this film. This. Good. Will. You know what this could do to us? What the fuck is that supposed to me it's not a sure thing. You think it's going to bomb. JEREM. James slid the pages back across the table and looked bill square in the is. Look. We started thinking one hundred, maybe a hundred and twenty million I have no idea where we're at now you have got to start making cuts I'M NOT GONNA lose my job knows this keeps up I'm not GonNa do it. I'm not GonNa do it excuse me Jim? We're on pace for two hundred, million dollars on this I've already made cuts here. Bill. Jim. It's beyond me peters going to have my head and now Rupert's wondering what's going on Rupert was rupert. Murdoch. Who Owned Fox's parent company News Corps he was worried about the decision making at Twentieth Century Fox, we have to do something or it's me and you both buddy. If you WANNA. Cut My film. You'll have to fire me too. And if you're GONNA, try to fire me. You're. GonNa. Have to kill me Jim James stood up and stormed out of his trailer. Jim Come on let's talk nothing to talk about bill. If you're such an expert, you can finish the movie yourself. Shit. Bill everyone at twentieth. Century. Fox New James Comey replaced. He was the writer, the director, the creator of this film. He was irreplaceable. Bill got back into his BMW for the long drive back to Los Angeles filled with worry. If they fired James it meant losing the film and at least seventy, five, million dollars the company would take a hit and so would the executives it was a bad spot but bill new and believed in James Vision. So He'd recruit film studio paramount pictures to help share their financial burden in exchange for giving them a share of the revenue if they ever broke even. Bill. So I, understand your position here. I want this. So. Here's what I'll do. As a sign of goodwill James agreed to forfeit his directing fee and producing fee and he gave back his own stake in the film so he could keep control of his masterpiece. He would receive no money for the success of titanic but at least it would get made. Titanic had become the world's biggest passion project. As the sun set the next day in Rosarito James charged through the warm ocean air he had a long way to go. The Silhouette of his titanic blocking out the Orange Pink clouds on the horizon. James felt filmmaking is war and already every battle with the studio was life or death. All or nothing And he refused to give in. Now. He had a firm release date he had to meet December nineteenth nineteen, ninety seven and two studios would be breathing down his neck. Tens of thousands of jobs on the line. A level of pressure that could crush any other filmmaker. And they expected nothing less than diamond. Stay tuned for a preview of the next episode of blockbuster and a short conversation about this episode. Hey. I'm Ross Marquand play the role of James Cameron Blockbuster. Thanks so much for listening and be sure to leave us a five star review on Apple podcasts spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks. I everybody Mash Raider. Here we know ad breaks like these sometimes get in the way of storytelling. Okay. They almost always do if were up to me we'd never have any. But with this season to in our partnership with cadence thirteen, we've been able to really elevate our storytelling into reviews and attention from bigger and bigger media. It all helps us chase the dream of being able to sustain our show, which is significantly more expensive to produce than most podcast because of all the production elements. So we ask one thing of you. To help that, and it helps us get the most for those couple of Pesky. Ad Breaks. In each episode, all you have to do is answer a few questions to let us know about your other interests that helps cadence thirteen know how to market the show and you enter to win a hundred dollars Amazon gift card as well. Go to listener q dot Com slash blockbuster that's listener than the letter q dot Com slash blockbuster answer those few questions and get entered to win a hundred bucks listener q dot Com slash blockbuster. On, the final episode of Blockbuster. Jamie how's it going Adam? I was just wondering if you'RE A. James and Jamie create an iconic movie moment for the Titanic. Director James Cameron how are you feeling tonight very good James Fights to hold himself together as early negative reviews role in the film is three hours. Long what do you say to the people who are not GonNa? Go See Oh well. And Titanic refuses to sink. I'm going to reinvent myself all over again. That's coming up on the finale of Blockbuster, the story of James Cameron. Series. Creator. Schrader Hey I'm the sound designer Peter Bobby. It's I'm Monroe you're less crime, the composer I am producer and Lena Bobbitt's I'm Ross Marquand to play the role of in blockbuster and this is our creator chat about episode nine. You just heard from blockbuster the story of James Cameron. It's the penultimate episode the finale coming next week. This was an episode where a lot of stress of assembling titanic is all starting to compound we of course, start with Kate and Leo meeting in that first scene and I really liked our Leo. For this actor Motion Aria and he starts out saying. The scene seems a little light for me playing Leo. Fits so well with. Of. Life for me But that's that sometimes you know what actors are liked they'll have their own take on something, but they always want those big lines and of course, Leo ends up with the biggest line of the movie I'm the King of the world but that's later down the road right now at the very top of the episode where with Kate Winslet and Leo for the first time trying to work together right? Because this is a screen test. Really. And the thing that I really like about these scenes as just like season one where we had Harrison Ford trying outlines. In the same situation as like it's such a well known at such everybody knows these lines from the movie right and these are ripe know movies. So it's really fun to recreate these things. It's really a fun thing to do. We had a lot of casts and and additions for those parts for Kate. We're looking for someone who really embodied sort of like transatlantic accent of the time, not quite in British, not quite America and and we had a lot of Kate winslet's but eventually found someone who was really strong vocal match actually remember well, I we were listening to and I and I was like Oh my God, like she actually sounds so so close. More also. And there was also this like sort of like you know like she's like a little funky she's a little you know that the energy that's what was a very important shed that. So that was great Leo though he was quite a challenge because. Leonardo di Caprio. He doesn't have this sort of like a unique voice you would think, but he has a very specific sort of manner of speech inle cadence to his voice. and the turned out that it was really hard to find someone who actually matches him and then I realized that no, we realized that everyone knows what he sounds like. Somehow we just realized that, Hey, what about motion because mood actually has that very same like manner of speech in cadence to his voice and then it They actually share a vocal. Coach yeah, which is really interesting. Yeah, and then when we tried him out, he was just perfect and Peter how many times did we make motion scream I'm king of the world more than we should because see it's tricky line. We could hear his voice getting a little bit scratch your at a little bit scratcher. Yeah. By talked with the phone quite often that's of He's alive. It's okay. That's good Ross. The standout seen in this episode while there's there's two of them. There's the fight at the very end when James storms out of his trailer with Bill Mechanic Twentieth Century Foxing, he wants to cut out parts of the movie but my favorite is the scene where someone spikes the soup just I can't. I can't even believe this is one of those. Stories. Like Ana that's there's no can't be. Right but I love it. It's incredible. I think Whoever Spike did I know disgruntled employee or whatnot but I mean it just it just it it's. It's incredible that they went through all of that and then of course, the the Ad Christie who charges James of the pen, stab some women. Yeah. What what you couldn't make this stuff up and I. Just love that you know at the end there you've talked about a bill, Paxton coming in and saving and just being the game over man you know. I I can only imagine how awkward the rest of that shoe was after that I mean I know things get emotionally charged and everyone's at each other's throat especially if you're working long hours and you're not sleeping but my goodness I cannot imagine being on a films that were this type of thing happened and still going to work every day for another month or two after that just several Riley just the morale of the set I'd be looking over my. Shoulder every single day you know making sure that I brought my own sack lunch and it was only drinking bottled water. You know because I just be terrified the whole time that's that something bad would happen after they. You know Peter the sound design of the scene was something you created in the last few weeks before we released. Yeah and actually it was something that I started sketching very early on I didn't have to experiment with drugs Just looked at the story and we said, okay. So this is basically what's happening and it wasn't really about making it designee quote unquote and like Oh here's some fun sound effects that was. What we understood very fast is. This is his nightmare. Yeah, and everything that was happening up until now in the story that you heard, we want to in some shape or form start bringing back distorted as you know, his vision's everything overwhelming him because, yeah one one layer of it is the drugs but the second one is just the impression that that surreal experience made them reflect this this real panic of being out of control in something where you're supposed to have the ultimate control and so much is riding on and yet year. Everything is spiralling and it's very literal. In this case, it's literally spiring. There's a Congo line forming. There's you know someone charging him with a pen. So this is this is a about as weird as it can possibly get as as much fun as it could sound like it was. Oh, the whole crew was on drugs like. Just remember one thing. He knows he's over budget. He knows he's behind schedule. He knows he is the most talked about project in the world. Nobody ever had a budget like this and this happens and Fernando this episode there's there's not as much music as in some episodes that we've had in the past, but we're also starting to lead into our big finale here episode ten, and all of these things that James has been through that are are are about to come full circle Ya throw these episode of the recent a lot of music when there is music either is to accentuate unimportant moment or. Leaders into what's GONNA become? Of Titanic in the future. but also as the episode ends, we start seeing everything fall apart for James Cameron and. We made a conscious decision of nod scoring the argument with bill mechanic. We wanted it to sound raw just most of the more uncomfortable moments of our life happen. There's no soundtrack into our lives is just Ri- motion. And? Of course we see at the end of this episode James Cameron agreeing to give up his sharing titanic's prophets. So that he can keep control of the movie. And everything is on the line for him and our bonus interview for this episode is a conversation with the man you heard in that final scene bill mechanic former head of motion pictures at twentieth century. Fox. You'll hear about what it was like telling James Cameron he can't do things. And how much danger he felt for the future of the studio at that point fascinating conversation that that I I really enjoyed and we hope you'll check out and a cool story also about a poster of titanic that James Personally signed of that's hanging on the wall will put a picture that on social media as well which which had its own story to it that I found really really interesting and we. Well, you'll have to listen and We will be back after the final episode of Blockbuster. The story of James Cameron next week will finally be able to discuss a few of the things we haven't wanted to spoil just yet, but we can't wait for you to hear it and hope you'll share this podcast with all your friends we've been receiving so many messages of support and people saying they're getting teary eyed at some scenes were so grateful to be able to make this and your support means the world to US think. But for now for Fernando Alonzo Ross and Peter I met schrader thanks for listening and we'll see you back here after the finale. Thanks. Blockbuster is written and narrated by me match raider sound designed by Peter bobbleheads original music by Fernando Arroyo less rain produced by Elena. starring. Ross. Marquand. For more on blockbuster, falling on social media at blockbuster pod or visit us, online to support the creators at get blockbuster dot com. Blockbuster is an original production of epoch left media.

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Brad Pitt Steps Out With German Model in France, RHOBH Reunion Peek Heats Up - Daily Pop 08/27/20

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Brad Pitt Steps Out With German Model in France, RHOBH Reunion Peek Heats Up - Daily Pop 08/27/20

"The day on daily pop has Brad Pitt been keeping Hollywood's biggest relationship a secret. Yes. Guys Brad seems to be having new leading lady in his life German model Nicole Culture off Sqi here's what we know there were spotted in the south of France together he she is twenty-seven. He's fifty, six, thirty year age gap just about and get this. They were actually seem together at the Hollywood bowl back in November, two, thousand, nineteen, these photos they just surface they are at the Conde West concert they're looking pretty happy. So this is possibly been going on for a while. What do you think about this? I was. So when I got this down this morning, I was like, how did we not even see this coming? First of all those photos are not new I saw those photos. came out months ago when everyone was speculating that he was dating that all your shock Shaukat girl and obviously like it's right in front of our faces, he's obviously talking to this girl in even then I noticed Oh, he's talking to her but like didn't think anything of it I am so happy that he's found somebody and like living his best life and I'm happy that we didn't know for as long as we did. ooh. ooh. Look I love pets, and I, just want him to be happy. But this is not a midlife move. Life. Move I'm going to call it not a midlife crisis but. I just don't know what it is. I. Don't know if dating somebody thirty years. Yours junior is the smartest thing to do and it just greaves to me give me a red corvette. Give me another motorcycle. Let me learn how to fly a plane. I just don't know. Oh This is, of course, he's going to date a model twenty seven. He's never done. This before is by the way he's only dated women who have been actresses have been sort of his equal and been relatively close in age. This is. Crisis this is why tasers. Kids, here's the thing though. Through so much over these last few years like we all love him and I'm just like live your best life man i. mean if you're fun like I am happy to see him. Happy. She seems like she speaks five languages dental research on her by the way she's the mother of one. She has a little boy who's like the away ever seen chilis like one photo of him on her instagram but cute little boy she's. Common five languages. She's a model. She's successful. She's gorgeous and she asserted foundation for sharks. How old is she? Twenty Swiss seven. Hold us. Again. At sorry I know everybody loves Brad Pitt. But charissa if you were seventeen years old and your daddy got a divorce came home with somebody ten years older than you bitch you'd be on fire. It's different when your dad is Brad, Pitt though I feel like if it GETS WEIRD IT's bad look that's when it's really a midlife crisis or midlife move dot liquid you're Brad. Pitt. All you don't age hadn't photographs Luger went through all fifty three of them on the Daily Mail. She sells johnny and you're right there. Morgan because if that happened with my dad, I'd freak me out but I do have friends whose. To date younger and have aided notorious younger over the years and you Kinda just get used to it and say like that's my dad that's what my dad does. got. I. Also, what is is Kudos to Brad Pitt because I've always said this and I'm GonNa say it again if one celebrity tells me, I can't get privacy here in Los Angeles. Will Point you this photo and tell you that Brad Pitt has allegedly been dating this woman since November. He is not only have privacy. He kept it a secret and he is one of the most famous men in the world and I. Do not WanNa hear a peep out of. Privacy, he got a decoy that's all was so clutch for him because he's speculating that he was dating the semi the famous girl next to him, and the fact that he went for the model under the radar I just I love it even more so happy for him. Yeah. He really knows how to keep a secret and I do wonder if he was ready for us to find out now that we're seeing all the. I think you're right. There Long Enough For sure and his divorce was kinda settled I, think he wanted to smooth things over as much as possible because let me tell you something ladies and gentlemen if you are going through a divorce and custody battle with somebody and there's still some money up in the air. The last thing you WanNa do is throw in new spouse that'll deal everything. So out of respect for the person that you are going into these divorce settlement talks with and also out of respect for your kids and your cash, maybe keep your boo a secret like Brad Pitt did for so long and that's why. Because And also because of the fact that he probably feels like, okay, this is serious. Enough I'm interested in this enough enough girl enough to show her up. You know what I mean like I feel like if it was three months and it was kind of iffy. He why go public with that? Just what people can jump on top of it speculating then it ends before we even got to really decide if they want to be and the south of France, he's still has House there I didn't I thought he had to give that up I'm so happy to see that he still has set. Guys. But we can dream we can. Levonne because it's denise richards versus everybody and an explosive three-part real housewives of beverly. Hills Union take a look. You guys are so vicious. You really are. It's actually kind of me Oh shut up denise you Li- Li- li- li-. Group, right? Yes. We know that only said Nice things about you kyle stop I'm senior tweet you actually set you said way worse things about me according to WHO Brandy you actually. Was the last time we've ever talked about sex. You bring your husband's Pete with almost the show I'll yeah, really are you GonNa let my small disdain for your clothes get in the way of our friendship. That's silly. She said this. You came my charity event raised your paddle to donate five thousand dollars and never paid watts i. feel like you're trying to discredit that's showing all sides except Randy said I feel that the cover up is worse than the crime. Of course you are denise can Richard Guest who brought up to three DOPP lease up and Rena? In world knows the drought denise's has been going and getting a happy ending for one hundred year old woman it was early accidental to. Suli. She just left. Just as breaking. Down Winston Bravo. This season who do you think was the biggest villain here they're all ganging up on denise. I do the greatest. Villain is Denise's lapse in judgment to be completely honest because. These did not hook up with. Brandy. Off She had to do was say I didn't Hook up with brandy goodbye less I'm talking about Biz but also denise did Hookup Brandy we are in twenty twenty and you're right. You are Denise Richards if you would've looked to the camera and said, so what I kissed a girl and I liked it. Nobody would care people would applaud her but also you are Denise Richards. You could have had any woman in America if you did with brandy shame on you to eat where you should or whatever she we. Yeah, we not the eating is just the references this too much. But listen, I, agree with you I think that I don't think realizing season I don't think anyone any of the ladies were like particularly a villain i. think they were really trying to get to the bottom of something. Unfortunately, it really is no one's business but this is the nature of reality television. What's no one's business becomes everybody's business I don't think denise fully understand what she signed up for and the purpose of being on a show like this you gotta own it Wilson backes. Lack. Of Rice the money is too good and everybody has a rough second season. It's called the second season curse you always through a hard time your second season you third and fourth you fly. You come back stronger. Everybody has the time. Yeah. I cannot wait to see this reunion coming up tiki Palmer is here and revealing some secrets about the upcoming VM, plus why she's coming for beyond say. How. Are you? I'm so good. It's good to see. You love by the way is anybody's bag saved because I feel like you are just getting every job under the sun okay. Are you excited about this via honey I'm Excited about this first of all I mean like the Ama like I love the VM as I've watched it always growing up so to be hosing is is is insane but then also the opportunity to just have fun and cut up is going to be soon you much. Oh. I know you are ready. To. That as a host, I know you get to see all the sneak peeks all the performances before everybody goes which performance are you most excited to see take that stage most decided I'll say for. But there are I mean everyone's GonNa put on a great show. I'm excited. I haven't been added. I think able to see as much as I would usually be. Usually in this scenario because of Kobe and everything and just trying to keep safe we've all been pretty separate I. Don't really know I may know what some of the locations are but I don't know what kind of show everyone putting on the media is i. just know always brings it in its history being made K pop group performing on stage. This is awesome needs to happen I'm excited to. Let everyone. Know. Kiki going be extra. She be all out there bringing them live bringing the comedy. This is the looks. Are we going full beyond saying where we're changing every hair where we change anelle policy is like how many looks are we talking and is it going to be insane? Maybe, I'm bringing you beyond, say we're not at step in I'm bringing every looked at our possibly can give doubt. Okay. Just ready get your fall ready because you don't have to do is going to become a so quick going to pitch every time. Out My favorite via moment ever was when Britney had that snake. Conic. What are some of your most memorable and unforgettable va moments? That's definitely one but. When I think about the onset being I'm pragmatic Gotcha that was a gay I mean that was just like the. Same like this, you know she'll tell us nothing. You know who would have loved as that she was alive Brianna Taylor and the fact that we're fighting so hard like this for these people to be put on trial for literally committing a crime this is. The way that they're protecting them I wish that was protecting Brianna like that we gotta let's just stop with the bull unless just jealous unless he let's. Let's. Let's try to beat for each other. You know let's let's let's try to get more balanced To to all of this one, hundred percent are you so excited about this album coming up? I'm so excited because you know some of these songs I had and then some work. kind of added onto in this this whole attitude of the project was produced during the beginning of quarantine in just like. The whole. Oh. My Gosh. When he twenty is about the be an his saying year how can I express or kind of find an escape to this and that that came the project and I had all the time that I usually don't have which is funny. How how how things can be ironic like that But yeah, and in the spirit of it is, is like hardy is fun. Murdy is chill and it's funny. We have a bunch of little kind of some little surprise for prizes in there for for those listeners as I just wanted to give that bit of relief with the project were you knew my mom was going to be like is that a kilo thing you? GotTa bring up all stuff why Mama's always gotta bring up old stuff for people who maybe not debt? No. This idea you because I'm not gonNA. I. was like, Oh oh S. E., I know. Oh my God I cannot wait to watch you onto the as congratulations. Good luck. Make sure that here is laid and ready girl honey 'cause periods I to be watching. I can't wait. Thank you love. Oh, my Gosh what a fun and our view. The via as Air Sunday on M. T. V.. So cume all right just new Mitch and Brianna. Taylor and we also have to talk about what's happening in Kenosha Wisconsin people are outraged after state investigators declared journalists, Blake black land who was shot seven times in the back after a run in with police last night the NBA playoffs teams did not take the court to stand in solidarity players from the Major League Baseball and major league soccer also showed their support and please watch what happened when former NBA player and commentator Kenny Smith talked about this issue on TNT inside the NBA. As a black man as a former player. For best for me to support the players and just not be hit tonight. and. I respect it. Everybody was unified in a decision. Respect that. Wow celebrities like beyond say Kevin Hart Demi Lovato, and so many more are sharing their outrage and prayers for Blake. What was your reaction to everyone taking a stand? You know for me. It's kind of sad that even after Brianna Taylor after George Floyd after Trayvon Martin we are still here and still having to take a stand against this. And what's even sadder is. What are people doing when we're not watching? What are you doing when there's not somebody's sitting there with the cameras? And it's really upsetting the only way we can get this on the news or get this out is if we take a stand if we get up and we walk out of a room. So with that being said I love you, guys. From the bottom of heart. But as a black man, I have to take a stand and I'm going to stand in solidarity with Jacob Blake Brianna Taylor. McLean. I would too. Yeah. I totally agree. Yeah it's honestly it's gotten to the point where we can talk about outrage and prayers and as Justin said, but it's like enough is enough at this point like the fact that people are being treated this way is just it's beyond unacceptable and the fact that there is nothing being. Done, there's been no law put in place. There's been nothing that's been implemented to protect people and make people feel equal I mean this land was walking away from police officers with nothing he wet his car with his three children and they have to not only shoot him once but seven times after they already tased him these people shouldn't be handed guns that is the promised literally like giving my newborn baby saying, oh, figure out. How to use that like I just don't understand how that's even something that is allowed to happen especially after everything like does the home like I don't understand at this point like do people want the world to flip upside down and burned down because that's what's going to happen I mean you have the NBA you have the National Basketball Excuse me baseball league I mean these people are not going to stand for this or get WNBA. Did Not play as well. They wore shirts with seven bullet holes on their they boycotted their game we have Naomi Osaka canceled her tennis match. You know people are really trying to get this out there and make attention where it deservedly needs and absolutely you know Justin I'm proud of you for doing what you gotta do. Exactly. Welcome back in case you missed it just and is not here before the break he walked off in solidarity with the protests against the Jacob Blake shooting and we support him one hundred percent but we are here to keep joe going are we have some exciting news happening There was a baby that came and we're so excited congratulations. To Katy, Perry in Orlando Bloom, they've had a baby girl daisy dove bloom. She was born yesterday and I love the announcement. It was such a cool way to do it. They paired up with UNICEF F they encourage people children in need. They're both goodwill ambassadors for the organization and they been involved for many many many years and I. Just love that they gave that spotlight on Unisem I found myself donating last night and reading all about it. So it worked I mean, this was such a special way to announce the. Birth of your child, I like it. I thought it was really well done I appreciate it, and it's true. It just lets everybody know they obviously had a beautiful baby girl who's extremely fortunate. They don't have to really worry about anything and so it was nice that they sort of included other people in this and said, listen we're happy about this. But like there are a lot of other people that need a lot more than we do. So put your attention to that. I thought it was really really well done daisy bloom. That's easy. Blue. Radio Eighty well. Very Perry. Oh. Yeah. Hundred percent. percent. So happy congratulations guys. All Right Kate winslet. Of, love scenes but she tells the Hollywood reporter. They're not like eating a sandwich Kate and her Co. Star Search Social Ronin choreographed the love scene and their new movie amanite. Kate says it's the least self conscious. About filming a scene like that. Wow least self conscious. I wonder what it wonder what the secret sauce was. Maybe it was. Certian. It with Y yeah. With a girl. Yeah. I was GONNA. Say maybe she felt more comfortable maybe fun fact about Kate, winslet, she learned how to free dive for her new role and Avatar too. She says her longest dive seven minutes and fourteen seconds which we she can hold her breath for that long. Serious? Practice that. I I. Love that the questions like could you do that? No absolutely not I could not do that I could barely breathe in this chair right now and know that there's practice that goes into it and you need to kind of get up to that level but I mean that's a lot. That's a hard commitment I. Don't I don't think I'd ever achieved seven minutes of holding my breath yeah. Rebecca. Rebecca producer call does this morning and said so can you do breath? I'm like I don't know Rebecca having time myself lately, but I'm pretty sure. Avatar to is the second time working with Director James Cameron and she says he's chilled out in the twenty three years since titanic the last time they worked together Kate Sprinter twenty-first day filming the life raft scene and the freezing cold the one where she would not scoot over and make room for our poor. Leo. I will never get over that that. All right you guys. Thank you so much for tuning in tomorrow we are breaking down the AMA's most memorable moments. Have a great day everyone and thank you so much for tuning and we'll see you tomorrow.

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The Cannes Film Festival Is Still Having a Record Breaking Year, Despite Being Cancelled

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The Cannes Film Festival Is Still Having a Record Breaking Year, Despite Being Cancelled

"Jarvis Masters has steadfastly maintained his innocence since he was sentenced to death almost thirty years of. Innocent people on death row newly uncovered evidence posters those claims innocence. Found that women I would not been charged. You be the judge on dear governor the PODCAST. What a daily dagoes like innocent on death row! Listen to dear governor on the iheartradio APP on Apple, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Direct from Hollywood with Ryan Seacrest, the Cannes International Film Festival was cancelled due to covid nineteen, but the festival has gone forward and released its official selections for Twenty Twenty and celebration of their creative accomplishments, and is still help the film's find distribution, which has always been one of the festival's primary functions, typically different categories for the various films chosen but this. This year they've decided to just announce. All six movies in a single list and unique situation isn't the only reason these movies are making history. There's also a record breaking number of female lead and first time director films among the honorees. Our new films by Wes Anderson. Vigo Mortenson director, debut and AMMONITES, starting Kate winslet's on Earth Ryan Dot Com for more. Direct from Hollywood. Renowned Buddhist author teacher Jarvis Masters has steadfastly maintained his innocence since he was sentenced to death almost thirty years ago on a new podcast. Dear Governor Jarvis poses the question from. BE By the heads. Of One man from the confines of his nine by four sell in San, Quentin Jarvis will share his riveting life story. How is managed to maintain a sense of optimism? In the most dire circumstances are pulling. Their mind by now I think I'm -vivor. Provide the details of the bloody murder and trial that landed him on debt. I really believe that they found that weapon I would not that charge. Here details from inside the courtroom as attorneys fight for his final state appeal with newly disclosed evidence. The posters has claims of innocence. Will the California Supreme Court exonerate him reaffirm his death sentence. Listen to dear governor on the iheartradio, APP, apple, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Forgotten is a new podcast about hundreds of young women who have disappeared and turned up dead in. Mexico right across the border from El Paso. There were just random victims. The women were picked. They were selected I. Mean there could be abduction in broad daylight? No one saw it. These are like ghost. They were killed for a reason. The burning question is. Why is it not a major emphasis of investigation? These crimes have been solved for nearly thirty years. We talked victims, families FBI agents and a psychologist who claims to know one of the culprits to understand why. And we reveal how these women's deaths force us to think more deeply about borders, migration, trade and corruption. Listen to Forgotten Women of Juarez on the iheartradio APP, or wherever you get your put costs.

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